Mid-Morning Open Thread [Y-not for CBD]

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DOUVILLE HOURS (USE OF AMIENS)
In Latin and French, illuminated manuscript on parchment
France, Amiens, c. 1480-90

Enlargement from this Book of Hours below:

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Here's today's version of an illuminated manuscript:

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Ain't progress grand?


Open thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:00 AM




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1 Illuminated

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)

2 First? no way

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (aQQbl)

3 Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)

4 There's a seriously backwards view most people have on how cause and effect work in this world.

In other words, what causes stress is often the very thing we think is relieving our stress.


Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:03 AM (TOk1P)

5 When the populace doesn't read, you must use pictures.
Why, even McDonald's knows that.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)

6 @4 are you suggesting coloring actually causes stress?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:05 AM (2Ocf1)

7 Nobody got the others?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:06 AM (2Ocf1)

8 Just got back from the doctor and see our new coloring book. I suppose people actually pay money for that crap.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 03, 2016 10:06 AM (vvmPQ)

9 VDH absolutely nails it! Best essay on Trumpism evah.

http://tinyurl.com/hzaeh5c

Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:07 AM (/m8T6)

10 @4 are you suggesting coloring actually causes stress?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:05 AM (2Ocf1)


Serious answer: Things like agressive/angry/course language increase stress.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:07 AM (TOk1P)

11 The people who make those adult coloring books are assholes. I never can stay coloring within the goddamn lines.

**goes off to comfort eat a tub of paste**

Posted by: Joke Biden at May 03, 2016 10:07 AM (H9MG5)

12 VDH absolutely nails it! Best essay on Trumpism evah.



http://tinyurl.com/hzaeh5c

Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:07 AM (/m8T6)


He tends to be too wordy for my taste. Give me the 30 second (or less) version.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:08 AM (TOk1P)

13 @10 fuck that

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:08 AM (2Ocf1)

14 Corgis called.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:08 AM (2Ocf1)

15 @10, if people would stop pissing me off, my language would be better.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:09 AM (aQQbl)

16 >>>Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)<<<

Let's see them crossbow bitches make that shot.

Posted by: longbowman from the castle in the background at May 03, 2016 10:09 AM (H9MG5)

17 Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?


Looks like red hat and blue hat are carrying something

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (cWLG9)

18 Didn't make coffee yet. Wife brought home Kona beans from Hawaii.

Gotta fire up the Grind n Brew.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (2Ocf1)

19 Why, even McDonald's knows that.
Huh, I never connected the numbered meal selection at McDs w/adult illiteracy. Makes sense. Also, numbers are typically translated verbatim, so our Mexican "guests" can eat their Big Macs free of English.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (SeD0w)

20 Labour councilor defends Hitler tweet; 'It's because I'm Muslim'

Suspended Labour councillor Shah Hussain says he's being picked on for being Muslim, denies comparing Israelis to Hitler is anti-Semitic.

Someone should take that asshole's shovel away before he hits China

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (V/InG)

21 Nice.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:11 AM (nbrY/)

22 Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)


It's alright, Jedi Samuel Jackson has his light saber out, he's about to open a can of whopasse (that's the archaic spelling, as befits the document) on the Sith arrowmen.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:11 AM (TOk1P)

23 3 Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)

Medieval sniper got them.

Seriously, those illuminated manuscripts are gorgeous.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 03, 2016 10:11 AM (u0lmX)

24 22 Do those dudes have arrows sticking in their heads?

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM (2Ocf1)


It's alright, Jedi Samuel Jackson has his light saber out, he's about to open a can of whopasse (that's the archaic spelling, as befits the document) on the Sith arrowmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:11 AM (TOk1P)

Wouldn't that be "whoopaffe"?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 10:12 AM (0mRoj)

25 Baby Jesus better be checking his white illuminated privilege.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2016 10:12 AM (UzPAd)

26 12 He tends to be too wordy for my taste. Give me the 30 second (or less) version
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His supporters want a reckoning with a system that has not so much failed as infuriated them. As a close friend put it to me this week, "I don't care whether Trump wins or not, I just want him to f--- things up as long as he can."

Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:13 AM (/m8T6)

27 @24 oh great Middle English grammar Nazis are here.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:13 AM (2Ocf1)

28 The Book of Hours of Rape.

Happy Rapey Tuesday!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 10:13 AM (0mRoj)

29 I ran an art gallery for several years. We picked up a small collection of beautifully framed, illuminated manuscripts, written in Aramaic. We sold out of them in a long weekend. I have always felt conflicted about the book being parted out like that, but I never knew the back story. Could have been a partial to start with.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 10:13 AM (SeD0w)

30 @26 yeah Trump pretty much embodies let it burn.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:14 AM (2Ocf1)

31
The Saint John's Bible is a good example of an illuminated modern script. Cant find a good image of it. It was the combined work of a number of famous calligraphers.

The photos dont do it justice:

http://www.saintjohnsbible.org/

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 10:14 AM (iQIUe)

32 Iran: ISIS Created Secretly By U.S. To Destroy Islams Attractions

Im guessing the Joooos are somehow involved in this.

Weasel Zippers

How's that sound to you?


Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:14 AM (V/InG)

33 One defense I read of the "dark" ages used as one of its points that in the middle ages, because of the church, people were constantly surrounded by beauty -- architecture, stained glass, tapestries, paintings...

It's a nice thought.

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 03, 2016 10:15 AM (QAOZh)

34 "Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem"

*whack*

"Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem"

*whack*

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:15 AM (Gwldq)

35 I'm trying to get into a historiographic review of medieval society by Marc Bloch and it is hard going.

Not sure what the issue is. Probably preconceptions.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2016 10:15 AM (ry34m)

36 It's Britain. Opposite to Britain is New Zealand not China

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (SWgCQ)

37

those adult coloring books are everywhere now. being peddled as "stress relievers"

WTF

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

38 What does all this matter if the Zapata video is real?

All our dreams will have come true.

Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)

39 Suspended Labour councillor Shah Hussain says he's being picked on for being Muslim,

It's intensely gratifying when the left catches itself in its own snares. Please, let him keep digging...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (SeD0w)

40 What?, no Manger?

Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (DL2i+)

41 IP

How did the wedding and honeymoon go? Heading to Dublin myself on Monday.

Posted by: flmomof4 at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (bEXWJ)

42 Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:13 AM (/m8T6)

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You forgot the other point of the VDH article, his followers don't care about the stupid, incorrect, idiocy Trump spouts, they want their "shake up."

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (U+nHb)

43 Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (evdj2)

44 blaster, how did the interview go?

(I asked on the other thread but the yelling was pretty loud so...)

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (Gwldq)

45 Willowed on the last thread: (BTW where is willow?)


Anyone wanting to help Christians who are being persecuted in muslim
countries, particularly those who have been displaced by ISIS, there is
link in my nic of how you can help. Voice of the Martyrs is preparing
care packages that they will get into the hands of persecuted Christians
in Pakistan, Iraq, and Sudan. Cost is very low.


I've been supporting Voice of the Martyrs for years and years. They are the real thing. Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (dFi94)

46 Huh, I never connected the numbered meal selection
at McDs w/adult illiteracy. Makes sense. Also, numbers are typically
translated verbatim, so our Mexican "guests" can eat their Big Macs free
of English.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (SeD0w)
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They have a complete picture menu. BK too if I recall. It's not only the illiterate but also the customers that are unable to speak that"benefit" from them. I grew up with a deaf neighbor, who also could not speak, and the challenge to effectively with only grunts and scribbled notes to communicate is real.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:18 AM (aQQbl)

47 He tends to be too wordy for my taste. Give me the 30 second (or less) version.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2016 10:08 AM (TOk1P)

How...lowly educated of you.

*runs away*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (xuouz)

48 For people who think Hanson is too wordy, just read the third to the last paragraph. I think even Trump supporters will enjoy reading that paragraph.

It explains Trump on an issue by issue basis that makes total sense, given the comments here as a guide.


Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (/m8T6)

49 Too bad those packages don't contain guns and ammo.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (8v0G6)

50 Petition to revoke Oxford law student's scholarship racks up more than 20,000 signatures in 24 hours

This was the little shit bragging about stiffing a waitress bc she is white. He is also a leader of getting rid of Rhodes on campus tho he is a recipient of a Rhodes scholarship.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (iQIUe)

51 37

those adult coloring books are everywhere now. being peddled as "stress relievers"

WTF
Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (0mRoj)

52 those adult coloring books are everywhere now. being peddled as "stress relievers"



Safe spaces! Safe spaces!!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (cWLG9)

53 Andrew Sullivan (yeah I know) has a mostly excellent piece about latestage democracy and tyranny also. Just ignore the tics about Obama's "pragmatism".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (SWgCQ)

54 You forgot the other point of the VDH article, his followers don't care about the stupid, incorrect, idiocy Trump spouts, they want their "shake up."

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (U+nHb)

we get it. you hate him. you will get no converts by insulting them

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

55 The Food and Drug Administration is using young lesbians, drag queens, and transgender individuals in a $36 million advertising campaign to encourage the LGBT community to quit smoking.

Divide and Conquer
It's what the Left does best
Hey I got a great idea, let's help elect hillary

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (V/InG)

56 In other words, what causes stress is often the very thing we think is relieving our stress.

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You mean like posting on the HQ?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (Nwg0u)

57 How the hell does one "get rid" of Rhodes ? That thing is friggin' huge !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (8v0G6)

58 Can we pass a law that when any governmental entity defaults on it debt that all Former members of that legislature be executed?

Cause it was probably their fault anyway. Imagine how that might incentivize them to be spend responsibly.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (oGRue)

59 How the hell does one "get rid" of Rhodes ? That thing is friggin' huge !!!

Feet of clay though.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (evdj2)

60 It's the paragraph that ends

The Trump supporters have seen plenty of politicians with important agendas, but few with the zeal to push them through; at this late date, they would apparently prefer zeal without agendas to agendas without zeal.

Posted by: MTF at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (/m8T6)

61 Stress relieving coloring books or constant texting and playing Candy Crush, which is healthier?

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (suO/a)

62 Its hard to make out, but I'm pretty sure the man in the red hood w/ the giant arrow is actually wearing a red "Make America Great Again" hat

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (10hEu)

63 49 Too bad those packages don't contain guns and ammo.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:19 AM (8v0G6)

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Reading my mind.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:21 AM (U+nHb)

64 I keep expecting the chanting Monks to shuffle to, and topple off the cliff.


Too much Monty Python, I guess.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 03, 2016 10:22 AM (ptqRm)

65 These skull arrows were fired by English longbow men - they're too long to be crossbow bolts.

*sniffs fletching, holds finger to wind, lays ear to ground*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:23 AM (xuouz)

66 I've learned that if you can't do everything, do one thing.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:23 AM (dFi94)

67 we get it. you hate him. you will get no converts by insulting them
Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

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I never said I hated him. I was referring to the VDH article. Have you read it? If not, you will see that's what HE said, not me. Read the part about the ankle bracelet going off.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:24 AM (U+nHb)

68 And who am I going to try and convert to what?

There is no there, there.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (U+nHb)

69 66 ... Well, you sure as hell ain't learned how to pick out a couch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (8v0G6)

70 What does all this matter if the Zapata video is real?



All our dreams will have come true.
Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)


There is a video about Emiliano Zapata?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (ry34m)

71 *ponders publishing a Horde coloring book*

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (nbrY/)

72 never said I hated him. I was referring to the VDH article. Have you read it? If not, you will see that's what HE said, not me. Read the part about the ankle bracelet going off.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:24 AM (U+nHb)

And? So?

What's your end game?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (V/InG)

73 Willowed on the east thread.

But, since we're still talking Trump/Cruz....here:


I voted for Cruz and I would prefer him,

but I can tell you the exact moment when I thought-

"Okay, he's lost the race now."


It was when anti-Trump thugs started committing violence against Trump supporters because they didn't like what Trump was saying-

and Cruz blamed Trump.

That was a gift given to Cruz to stand and make a powerful statement about free speech-

but....Nope.

Cruz took the leftist's talking points and ran with them.


If you're going to run as Mr Principled Conservative, if you're going to run as Mr Constitution,

then you damn well have to stand in the fire, in public, and voice your strong support for free speech even if there is a political advantage in weasel wording.

When I heard his statement, my stomach just dropped and I thought okay, he's lost now-

becuz more than ideology, this go-round people want a fighter, someone who will oppose the usual nonsense by the Dims and the MFM.

I would've prefer a conservative ideologue who was a fighter, Cruz screwed himself out of that position.

So, now we have Trump.

YMMV.


But, Cruz is young. Like Nixon, he needs to take this loss and learn from it. Build up his contacts and political allies and come back stronger in 2020 or 2024.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (oU3Bb)

74 >>we get it. you hate him. you will get no converts by insulting them

A lesson Trump supporters would do well to learn.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (/tuJf)

75 east = last

Posted by: naturalfake at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (oU3Bb)

76 Very pretty, thanks Y-not

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (dpnZC)

77 Well, you sure as hell ain't learned how to pick out a couch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (8v0G6)
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That's for sure. I wonder if they could use a white couch in Sudan? Shipping costs might be prohibitive.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:27 AM (dFi94)

78 What end game? I thought the article was good. Is this threatening somehow?

Everyone relax.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:27 AM (U+nHb)

79 How did the wedding and honeymoon go? Heading to Dublin myself on Monday.
Posted by: flmomof4 at May 03, 2016 10:17 AM (bEXWJ)
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Everything went perfectly! A week in Dublin and I can say it's people and it's history are incredible. Always helpful and welcoming. You'll have a great time. The Irish day starts at about 8am, the Temple district nightlife starts about 530, the bars close about 11.

There's an organic coffee shop on O'Connell, just south of the Gresham Hotel, Go there about 7:15. Get the filtered coffee and a warm fruit scone with jam, set down at a table and watch the town wake up. Some of the best mornings ever, and the barista girls were always pleasant too!

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:27 AM (aQQbl)

80 Panama prepares to transfer some 3,000 U.S.-bound Cuban migrants to Mexico

Panama has started to conduct a census of U.S.-bound Cuban migrants stranded in that country and will soon be sending them to Mexico, where they can resume the journey north. More than 3,000 Cuban migrants are in Panama and the president said no more will be allowed through.


But But But Fredo made nice nice with Castro?
Why are they leaving that island paradise?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:27 AM (V/InG)

81 55 The Food and Drug Administration is using young lesbians, drag queens, and transgender individuals in a $36 million advertising campaign to encourage the LGBT community to quit smoking.

Divide and Conquer
It's what the Left does best
Hey I got a great idea, let's help elect hillary

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (V/InG)

36 million to tell the young folks to stop sucking on fags?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 03, 2016 10:28 AM (mEZce)

82 *ponders publishing a Horde coloring book*

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (nbrY/)
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What color is a bottle of Val-U-Rite?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:28 AM (dFi94)

83 *ponders publishing a Horde coloring book*
Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:25 AM (nbrY/)

On this page, troll socks are dissolved in the noxious acids within the Barrel.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:29 AM (xuouz)

84 @44 today at 330. Eastern.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:29 AM (2Ocf1)

85 71 ... Wouldn't do me any good. My only crayons are ebony, onyx, and jet black. Threw out that damn charcoal ... too gaudy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:29 AM (8v0G6)

86 That fourth head, barely seen behind the three wise guys? Waldo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sniping waldo at May 03, 2016 10:29 AM (vDbXI)

87 The first cruise ship is headed to or landed in Cuba, I wonder how free to roam the passengers will be. I also wonder what kind of $$$ was spent making the port district tourist friendly.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:30 AM (U+nHb)

88 PIE JESU DOMINE DONA EIS REQUIEM

*smack!*

Posted by: Saint Timony of Urrrgh at May 03, 2016 10:31 AM (CUk0C)

89 naturalfake, great points.

And when his campaign is pressed into the corner having nowhere else to go, he breaks out his secret weapon.

iCarly.

sheesh

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:31 AM (Gwldq)

90 That fourth head, barely seen behind the three wise guys? Waldo.



Tony Two Fingers, Johnny The Match, Vinny The Bat, and Waldo.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 10:32 AM (cWLG9)

91 Huh, I never connected the numbered meal selection
at McDs w/adult illiteracy. Makes sense. Also, numbers are typically
translated verbatim, so our Mexican "guests" can eat their Big Macs free
of English.

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Uno, dos, one, two, tres, quatro
Matty told Hatty about a thing she saw
Had two big horns and a wooly jaw
Wooly bully, wooly bully
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully

I always assumed "wooly bully" was Mexican for "Big Mac".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:32 AM (Nwg0u)

92 Want to know Trump's agenda?

Enforce the law. Encourage, don't impede, job creation. Pass a budget. Keep our promises. Attack our enemies. Support our allies.

There is no "how?" to any of this. There is do, or do not.

Stop living in the left's world and make them live in the real one.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:32 AM (xuouz)

93 ScoggDog: Wouldn't do me any good. My only crayons are ebony, onyx, and jet black. Threw out that damn charcoal ... too gaudy.

Plainly, you need... the blackest black
Economist (javascript & plug-ins on required, stupid site)
http://bit.ly/blackity

(h/t Maggie's Farm)

Posted by: mindful webworker - dark thoughts at May 03, 2016 10:32 AM (vDbXI)

94 That donkey is piiiiiissed!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (xuouz)

95 So is there a mandatory gay theme in every TV show now?

We watched a Wynonna Earp episode last night and of course there was a gay demon.

And of course he was the only demon with any redeeming qualities.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (2Ocf1)

96 I always assumed "wooly bully" was Mexican for "Big Mac".



Wooly bully is Engrish for la cucaracha.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (cWLG9)

97 The Marine Corps says it has begun investigating whether it mistakenly identified one of the men shown raising the US flag at Iwo Jima in one of the iconic images of World War II after two amateur history buffs began raising questions about the picture.

The Marines announced the inquiry more than a year after Eric Krelle of Omaha, Nebraska, and Stephen Foley of Wexford, Ireland, began raising doubts about the identity of one man. In November 2014, the Omaha World-Herald published an extensive story about their claims and Saturday was the first to report the Marines were looking into the matter.

Interesting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (V/InG)

98 IP

That's great to hear, hope you're enjoying wedded bliss. We go to Ireland a lot, hubby's family is from Galway and Dublin, so know the Irish well, and I love them. We only stay in Dublin one night then off to Cork, we have a place there, I call it my bug-out place, away form the madness unfolding here in the US.

Posted by: flmomof4 at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (bEXWJ)

99 I don't see how a "Swear Word Coloring Book" could be cathartic. Cathartic is screaming it out loud, once, and getting it out of your system. Quietly coloring in the word just drags it out and does nothing for your mood.

I have a coloring book too, hiding in my bottom drawer. It's Dover Editions' "Byzantine Fashions." By the time you finish coloring in all the jewelry and brocade, you've long since forgotten what was bothering you.

Posted by: Annalucia at May 03, 2016 10:34 AM (a5bF3)

100 That bird is gigantic.


Roc?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:34 AM (Gwldq)

101 Crossbow sniper with a frying pan shield it the castle tower.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 03, 2016 10:35 AM (aFP77)

102 I have a SIL who has anger issues and is OCD. I bought her coloring books for Christmas. I am going to get that swear word one she will love it.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:36 AM (2Ocf1)

103 PIE JESU DOMINE DONA EIS REQUIEM




Posted by: Saint Timony of Urrrgh at May 03, 2016 10:31 AM (CUk0C=========================================

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt8TcWeL3A0


Pie Jesu - Live at Armagh Cathedral- The Three Priests

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:37 AM (dFi94)

104 we get it. you hate him. you will get no converts by insulting them

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 10:20 AM (zOTsN)


I don't think anyone is looking for converts at this point. They are looking to cause pain to the others. There is way too much emotional investment in the fate of one candidate or another.

It is like sports fans, only in politics.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 10:37 AM (hLRSq)

105 I want to know how his supporters are going to spin Trump's pointing out that Cruz's dad can plainly be seen next to the babushka lady in the Zapruder film?

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 10:37 AM (vDbXI)

106 And when his campaign is pressed into the corner having nowhere else to go, he breaks out his secret weapon.

iCarly.

-
iCarly the iClumsy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:38 AM (Nwg0u)

107 I don't think anyone is looking for converts at this point. They are looking to cause pain to the others. There is way too much emotional investment in the fate of one candidate or another.

It is like sports fans, only in politics.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 10:37 AM (hLRSq)

well mature people should get over that and keep their eye on the real enemy, the left wing democrats and that lying bitch hillary... all the rest is just selfish intellectual masturbation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:38 AM (V/InG)

108
That fourth head, barely seen behind the three wise guys? Waldo.


Nah, one of the three. That's Joseph in front.

Not sure how baby Jesus didn't make the enlargement.

Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2016 10:39 AM (DL2i+)

109 I adore VDH and have linked him often.

What he fails either to see or to say in today's article is that the "Temple" that Samson pulled down was the Temple of the Philistines: and in destroying it he freed his people from them.

What Trump will end is the American political system as it is: but it is not essential to our nation. It is quite the opposite. I would see IT burn rather than the country.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:39 AM (xuouz)

110 What the hell is Glenn Beck doing? Has he become completely unhinged?

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2016 10:39 AM (UzPAd)

111 Posted by: naturalfake at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (oU3Bb)

I agree. It was a crossroads in his campaign, and he either didn't recognize it as one or just chose the wrong path.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:39 AM (nbrY/)

112 Trump's policy positions are going back, and to the Left, back and to the Left...

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 03, 2016 10:40 AM (2cS/G)

113 99 ... That is some neat shit. Thanks !!!

*Wonders how to incorporate vanta black into bunker*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:40 AM (8v0G6)

114 Want to know Trump's agenda?



Enforce the law. Encourage, don't impede, job creation. Pass a
budget. Keep our promises. Attack our enemies. Support our allies.



Funny, that's Cruz's agenda too, as well as the agenda of every person who has ever run for any office

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:40 AM (dpnZC)

115 Posted by: flmomof4 at May 03, 2016 10:33 AM (bEXWJ)
_______________________________


That's awesome, and I'm envious! I would like to say I'll be back there but I don't know. Life is short. We drove to Cork City one day ourselves. Stopped along the way here and there just to get out and see. I know we missed a lot of what Ireland has to offer but what we took in was grand.

In the end it's a good life I've got, and I have terrific bride in IPspouse.

Ride, boldly ride, if you seek for El Dorado.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:41 AM (aQQbl)

116 Pussification continues apace


http://tinyurl.com/znf7ed3


Bringing my adopted cat, Jameson, home with me in 2014 was one of the happiest days of my life.

Having to go back to work two days later was one of the worst.

While the rest of the country is hung up on the necessity of maternity leave - or even the newly coined 'meternity' - one group continues to be overlooked when it comes to paid time off from work: new pet owners.


Pawternity

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 03, 2016 10:41 AM (ATVNj)

117 iCarly the iClumsy


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks




On a positive note, I am looking forward to her Christmas album.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:41 AM (Gwldq)

118 DaveA: ..Nah, one of the three. That's Joseph in front...

Ach! I see that now.

Okay, Joseph, Gaspar, Melchior... and Waldo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Balthasar =/= Bathsalts at May 03, 2016 10:41 AM (vDbXI)

119
as well as the agenda of every person who has ever run for any office
Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:40 AM (dpnZC)
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You can't mean that.

You must mean "the *stated* agenda" etc.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 10:42 AM (pC96u)

120 Honestly Cruz could have taken up the mantle of outsider, bad boy of the Senate, from the start and be winning right now. But I think he listened to consultants instead.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:42 AM (nbrY/)

121 You can't mean that.



You must mean "the *stated* agenda" etc.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 10:42 AM (pC96u)

Well, yes, of course.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (dpnZC)

122 @110 I think that Beck truly believes Trump will be bad for the country, and that Cruz will be a much better President.

But I think he has gone unhinged. When he was pimping the Trump=Hitler thing, agreeing will all these Lefties about it.

When Trump wins the nomination, he is in so deep there will be no way to walk it back.

I remember when people posted here that no way they would vote for Romney and then they did.

I think a lot of people really, really mean it when they say it about Trump.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (2Ocf1)

123 Posted by: Annalucia at May 03, 2016 10:34 AM (a5bF3)

That sounds awesome. Got a link?

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (nbrY/)

124 Hey ... Enough !!!

What's wrong, exactly, with a good Selfish Mental Masturbation session ?

You can't judge me.

*considers selfish mental masturbation session*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (8v0G6)

125 Many congratulations IP, your attitude ensures your happiness.

Posted by: flmomof4 at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (bEXWJ)

126 Yeah, how is Jesus not in there? Isn't he kind of the point of the whole story? It's like having a picture of Moses parting the Red Sea, only there's no Moses.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (dFi94)

127 Corinne from Red Youth and the CPGB gives Stalin a tongue bath:

https://youtu.be/XapASGT2i9w?t=780

Note that her and her friends giggle about the millions Stalin murdered.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (iQIUe)

128 well mature people should get over that and keep their eye on the real enemy, the left wing democrats and that lying bitch hillary... all the rest is just selfish intellectual masturbation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:38 AM (V/InG)


Where's my foam finger and the facepaint?

Go [insert your candidate here]!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (hLRSq)

129 Wait a minute, saying I like an article is "cause(ing) pain to the others"?

Yes, I certainly agree that people are too emotionally involved with their candidate. Absolutely. I've stated that here many times.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (U+nHb)

130 120
Honestly Cruz could have taken up the mantle of outsider, bad boy of the
Senate, from the start and be winning right now. But I think he
listened to consultants instead.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:42 AM (nbrY/)

Umm he did. Remember that the phrase "Washington Cartel" was his phrase.
What Cruz didn't do, was have his own reality TV show and a $100 million fortune, along with $2 billion in free advertising.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (dpnZC)

131 That's not Cruz's father in that photo. But if you look closely you can see Ted's five mistresses in the background.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 10:45 AM (6qmBU)

132 What Trump will end is the American political system as it is: but it is not essential to our nation. It is quite the opposite. I would see IT burn rather than the country.

For the hate they had taught through the State brought the State no defender...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2016 10:45 AM (9krrF)

133 Oh, and this Kona coffee is VERY good.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:45 AM (2Ocf1)

134 I think a lot of people really, really mean it when they say it about Trump.

Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (2Ocf1)

I do.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:45 AM (dpnZC)

135 Fritz: ...Glenn Beck... Has he become completely unhinged?

Actually, completely unhinged means the doorway is at least open and usable.

More like two out of three hinges messed up. Door out of kilter, scrapes on floor, won't close or open completely...

[details, details]

Posted by: mindful webworker - when it's ajar at May 03, 2016 10:45 AM (vDbXI)

136 But I think he listened to consultants instead.
Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:42 AM (nbrY/)

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I think that's true, @votermom.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:46 AM (U+nHb)

137 130 see outbreaks at 111

He tried to be the moderate alternative to Trump when he could have run as the real change agent instead.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:47 AM (nbrY/)

138 Yeah, how is Jesus not in there?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (dFi94)
___________________________________


nobody expected Him to be a sniper...

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:47 AM (aQQbl)

139 I think a lot of people really, really mean it when they say it about Trump.
Posted by: blaster at May 03, 2016 10:43 AM (2Ocf1)

He's been giving it to one Republican after another for almost a year now and it's pissed people off.

But when he turns the guns on Hillary he'll make up for it in spades.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:48 AM (xuouz)

140 I think @votermom hit it as well. He "own-goaled" a bunch in this campaign.

And honestly, it's too soon. He's not ready to run for the gig, and shit is still not even close to bad enough for the country to be ready for him.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:49 AM (8v0G6)

141 But I think he listened to consultants instead.

Well their were an awful lot of them Trumped out of work.

Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2016 10:49 AM (DL2i+)

142 I want to know how his supporters are going to spin Trump's pointing out that Cruz's dad pointed the Japanese toward Pearl Harbor!

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 10:49 AM (vDbXI)

143 137 130 see outbreaks at 111

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Damn auto cucumber
Upthread

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 10:50 AM (nbrY/)

144 What Cruz didn't do, was have his own reality TV show and a $100 million fortune, along with $2 billion in free advertising.


Yes. Yes.

We must stop this "success" and "profit". In our lifetime.

Get that money out of politics, eh McCain?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 10:50 AM (Gwldq)

145 Yeah, how is Jesus not in there?

He's in the full drawing, at Mary's feet on her shawl. And possibly a manger of light rays?

Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2016 10:51 AM (DL2i+)

146 I'm smart enough, good enough, and, gosh darn it, people like me! I also self-identify as a "cis-heteronormative budget surplus", whatever the hell that is........

Posted by: The Puerto Rico Deficit at May 03, 2016 10:51 AM (wyeK6)

147


You know else had a billion dollars in his campaign?

Posted by: Former President Mitt Romney at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (Gwldq)

148 Of course there is a swear word coloring book - we always have to be hip and ironic nowadays, eh? Same with the children's book "Go the F#@$ to Bed." LOL/sarc.
Ugh

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (NOIQH)

149 Umm he did. Remember that the phrase "Washington Cartel" was his phrase.
What Cruz didn't do, was have his own reality TV show and a $100 million fortune, along with $2 billion in free advertising.


Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 10:44 AM (dpnZC)


No.

What he didn't do is sell himself as the better of the candidates.

Posted by: dDan at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (hwYmz)

150 I see that TFG has found a medium he's comfortable with for his new autobiography.

Posted by: Anonymous Scandi Hobo who doesn't want to be turned into Jerky at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (c7+4S)

151 Illuminated manuscript, done by hand.
I would think then, that each was unique in some way.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (kiV5j)

152 131 That's not Cruz's father in that photo. But if you look closely you can see Ted's five mistresses in the background.

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i finally spotted the sniper in one of these.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2016 10:53 AM (oGRue)

153 He's in the full drawing, at Mary's feet on her shawl. And possibly a manger of light rays?


Posted by: DaveA at May 03, 2016 10:51 AM (DL2i+)
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Oh. Okay I have to look closer then .....

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:54 AM (dFi94)

154 Cruz's dad held John Wilkes Booth's horse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:54 AM (Nwg0u)

155 The Myth Of Muslim Radicalization

Muslim terrorist propagandist has her ass handed to her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWRd3C6cyQ4

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 10:54 AM (iQIUe)

156 I want to know how his supporters are going to spin Trump's pointing out that Cruz's dad supplied the ammunition to Gavrilo Princip?

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 10:55 AM (vDbXI)

157 Oh - I see him now. He's in the smaller of the two pictures. Somebody should put some swaddling cloths on Him. And learn to paint babies better. Sheesh.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 10:56 AM (dFi94)

158 73
If you're going to run as Mr Principled Conservative, if you're going to run as Mr Constitution,

then you damn well have to stand in the fire, in public, and voice your strong support for free speech even if there is a political advantage in weasel wording.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (oU3Bb)


Well said.

Posted by: rickl at May 03, 2016 10:56 AM (zoehZ)

159 $2 billion in free advertising.
...

I kinda think had Trump had spent the money, by buying the networks favored status in ad time dollars, and generally played nice, that not only would he have a much different image in the media now, he wouldn't have succeeded as much as he has.

Free? I think it's really cost him in the end by making this a much tougher row to hoe.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (aQQbl)

160 158 ... Yep.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (8v0G6)

161 People are saying Cruz's dad shot JR.

I'm not saying that--people are saying that.

Posted by: Teh Donald at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (eHpnh)

162 >>What Cruz didn't do, was have his own reality TV show and a $100 million fortune, along with $2 billion in free advertising.


He also didn't have 25 years of fawning news media/entertainment coverage, and a boatload of awesome-sounding yet meaningless awards like Hillary does. Heck, the creators of "Madame Secretary" from the outset admitted the show was to teach people what an awesome SOS Hillary was. Think of it - an entire generation has been taught in school that this woman is the most qualified woman politician evah!

And yet....look at her numbers. Can you imagine how she would be doing without the constant fluffing?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (NOIQH)

163 Puerto Rico
My heart's devotion
Let it sink back in the ocean
Always the hurricanes blowing
Always the population growing
And the money owing
And the sunlight streaming
And the natives steaming

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (Nwg0u)

164 123 Votermom:

Go to store.doverpublications.com and have fun nosing around. Lots of fashion/costume/historical books available, and with a box of 64 Crayolas you can indulge your inner eight-year-old to your heart's content. :-)

Posted by: Annalucia at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (a5bF3)

165 don't forget that Ted's dad officiated the red wedding.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2016 10:58 AM (oGRue)

166 I read the VDH column before coming here.

My takeaway:

1. VDH is brutal in his criticism of some of his NRO colleagues. Yeah, Williamson, I'm looking AT YOU.

2. VDH's conclusion is rather limited. A Trump presidency would re-vitalize, at least to some degree, the competitive, Madisonian give-and-take between the three branches of government. A hostile press would guarantee a conversation between the executive branch and We The People. After eight years of one-party rule, and by "one-party" I mean the Washington DC Party, that would be a relief.

3. #60's excerpt of this part: "The Trump supporters have seen plenty of politicians with important agendas, but few with the zeal to push them through; at this late date, they would apparently prefer zeal without agendas to agendas without zeal." is spot on.

Posted by: mrp at May 03, 2016 10:59 AM (JBggj)

167 165 don't forget that Ted's dad officiated the red wedding.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2016 10:58 AM (oGRue)

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hahahaha

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 10:59 AM (U+nHb)

168 From the back of his head, to the left, and then around the forehead, terminating at his right temple. That's one magic hairdo.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 03, 2016 10:59 AM (2cS/G)

169 Cruz's dad gave thirty pieces of silver to Judas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)

170 Goddamn I'm in a bad mood today. Damn black dog.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 11:00 AM (0mRoj)

171 Trump + Boehner = Ugliest baby ever!

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:00 AM (U+nHb)

172 ScoggDuaghter bought ScoggWife one of those coloring books and some pencils.

I said nothing, strictly in hopes that ScoggWife would take to the mindless activity - and get off my ass.

Alas ... no.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:00 AM (8v0G6)

173 But when he turns the guns on Hillary he'll make up for it in spades.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:48 AM (xuouz)

Who cares?
Honestly, who cares? If it's Trump or Hillary, it's 6 of one or a half-dozen of the other.
Do you think people will suddenly start voting for Trump because they hear him start insulting her in vulgar terms? "Oh wow he really tore her a new one, I'll forget about all of that other crap in his life, I'm totally on the Trump train now!"

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:01 AM (dpnZC)

174 >>#60's excerpt of this part: "The Trump supporters have
>>seen plenty of politicians with important agendas, but few
>> with the zeal to push them through; at this late date, they
>> would apparently prefer zeal without agendas to agendas
>> without zeal." is spot on.

America wants a Cromwell, they'll take a Trump.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:01 AM (o+SC1)

175 Hoy shit I was in a hood-ish part of town last night. Went into a grocery store to pick up a couple of things. This is at 9pm or so. There were 7 lanes open and each lane had at least 10 people in line. And I'm thinking WTF, this is insane, why is it so packed.

Then it dawned on me. It was May 2nd and May 1st was a Sunday. Which means the EBT carts were filled on Monday, ie yesterday.

I'd say 80% of the people in line were our non-English speaking guests from south of the border. Oh and the best was the express line which is 15 items or less....everyone in that line had a shopping cart overflowing with shit.

Transformation of America continuing on schedule....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 03, 2016 11:01 AM (VAbFf)

176 Coloring detailed pictures has been considered a stress reliever for years. There were mandalas to color in the mental hospital when I was there about six years ago. Somebody just decided to market it to a mass audience. Maybe we're all a little mad here.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:02 AM (FQKBL)

177 Cruz's father shot my mommy. And Old Yeller.

Posted by: Bambi at May 03, 2016 11:02 AM (8aOqE)

178 "$2 billion in free advertising."

Donald Trump earned his advertising (as I read elsewhere) because he was willing to talk to anybody in the media at any time. He made himself available to them and took the risk that others were not willing to take.

Ted Cruz put together the perfect orthodox political campaign and I really would like to see how he and his advisors game-planned this, because it really was a thing of beauty. Donald Trump had a completely unorthodox campaign that was perfect for his style and his strengths.

I cannot see Ted Cruz going into an interview, off the cuff, and speaking to a reporter about whatever crosses the conversational stream.

I cannot see Donald Trump sticking to a series of pre-tested talking points, each word carefully selected so as not to cause any damages.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 11:03 AM (hLRSq)

179 they would apparently prefer zeal without agendas to agendas without zeal

and this is one of the most frustrating parts to me.

This is the reason why Trump's detractors compare him to Mountain Dew Camacho. Sure he has swagger, but there is no substance behind the swagger. And people want swagger without substance? Seriously?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:03 AM (dpnZC)

180 reposted :


I question the mental health of anyone who can't see the bait and switch
PR game he's playing. You fall for it every freaking time. He's got a
dollar bill on a string and Truecons are screaming at everyone that it's
haunted.




Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:03 AM (Gwldq)

181 >> Cruz's father shot my mommy. And Old Yeller.

They were delicious. Especially the dog.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, we eat no dog before its time at May 03, 2016 11:04 AM (o+SC1)

182 OK, we've had some fun here but let's get back to reality. And by reality I mean Sally Kohn.

This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:04 AM (Nwg0u)

183 I don't think anyone is looking for converts at this point. They are looking to cause pain to the others. There is way too much emotional investment in the fate of one candidate or another.
...

Nope. Trying to stop this train wreck. The voters in Indiana need to know, among many other things, that Trump thinks Cruz's dad helped kill Kennedy. They need to know he's a nutjob.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (ozZau)

184 Cruz's dad invented autotune.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (0mRoj)

185 Yes, yes, we get it, Trump is a 3 dimensional chess player.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (U+nHb)

186 Cruz's dad sniped some fellow somewhere in Nevada. The worst part ? Just to watch the dude pass on.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (8v0G6)

187
Kurdish Christian raises money for Christian refugees. Threatened w. death & beaten.

https://goo.gl/BWQctn

Un-freakin' believable!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (iQIUe)

188 182 OK, we've had some fun here but let's get back to reality. And by reality I mean Sally Kohn.

This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:04 AM (Nwg0u)

_____

It's horrible!!

Posted by: Bernie - Senator from State that is 99% White at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (VAbFf)

189 This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN
political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason people are
voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:04 AM (Nwg0u)

Well it figures, even with a Republican primary campaign with candidates about a zillion times more diverse than the three old white guys and the shrill hag that the Dems ran, they would continue to push the narrative that Republicans are just racisty racists

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (dpnZC)

190 If Cruz gets crushed in Indiana (and then withdraws), the silver lining will be an end to the Trump Justice Warriors' constant drumbeat of "Cruz's dad shot JFK, Cruz's wife is a shape shifting jew global financier, and Cruz is Jimmy Swaggart" bullshit.

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (Jq95F)

191 >> This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN
>> political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason
>> people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."

Forget it, Jake. It's Sally Kohn.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (o+SC1)

192 This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:04 AM (Nwg0u)

*****

Someone should tell her that the Race Card is over the limit and is no longer valid.

Posted by: Tim in GA at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (iwux/)

193 buzzsaw90: don't forget that Ted's dad officiated the red wedding.

Me: red wedding??

Milady: I think that maybe is the Ayers-Dohrn wedding?

Milady: *pause*

Milady: Or, is that one of those things, if you don't know, don't googul it?

Posted by: mindful webworker - married a wise woman at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (vDbXI)

194 Anonosaurus, they do have Hispanic Cruz to vote for as well, except Cruz isn't really Hispanic because he doesn't eat the right food, or something something.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (FQKBL)

195 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 11:03 AM (hLRSq)

But you've seen Cruz do it multiple times off the cuff. just because his off the cuff is coherent and logical doesn't mean it's a rehearsed talking point.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (6qmBU)

196 191 >> This week's Mainstream Media Scream features CNN
>> political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason
>> people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."

Forget it, Jake. It's Sally Kohn.
Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (o+SC1)

Sally "I want to brainwash my daughter into becoming a lesbian" Kohn? Yeah, she's a paragon of credibility and level-headed thinking.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (0mRoj)

197 A SEAL was killed today in Iraq. ISIS launched a major coordinated attack at dawn against pesh positions north and west of Mosul. (The first SVBIED was so big the pressure from the shockwave reset my H2S detector 20 miles away).

http://tinyurl.com/hsul47z

Posted by: the real ch3 at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (wHYXk)

198 Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:06 AM (Jq95F)

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If only.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (U+nHb)

199 Ted's dad?! We keep talking about Ted's dad.

I wanna talk about Stacy's mom.
(I hear she's got it going on...)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 11:08 AM (SeD0w)

200 New Coke?

Cruz's dad

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 03, 2016 11:08 AM (ZQfW9)

201
185
Yes, yes, we get it, Trump is a 3 dimensional chess player.


Looks like 3 card monte to me.

And winning.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:08 AM (Gwldq)

202 NGU, thanks for that little historical item.


I thought that Strank, Sousely, Gagnon, Bradley, Hayes, and Block were all well ID'd as the six in the Rosenthal photo, at the time.


Does this refer to the "other" flag-raising photo taken at the time? It had a slightly different cast of characters.


Also, the photo is referred to as "iconic" in the news snippet you quoted. Iconic, yes, but that sort of understates things. I believe it's still the most published photo in history.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2016 11:08 AM (QDnY+)

203 And people want swagger without substance? Seriously?

The most I can make of how the Trump folks I know look at this is that it's sort of a "he'll provide the swagger, we'll handle the substance" thing. At least some folks are looking at him the way I've regarded Obama--a battering ram to open the way for others to get the real work done.

I have no idea how accurate this is or how it may work out in practice, other than to see that in the case of Obama, it turned out damned effective.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2016 11:09 AM (9krrF)

204 >> But you've seen Cruz do it multiple times off the cuff. just
>> because his off the cuff is coherent and logical doesn't
>> mean it's a rehearsed talking point.

Yeah, Cruz does those things beautifully.

It's some of his prepared stuff that's been less than impressive.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:09 AM (o+SC1)

205 Who cares?
Honestly, who cares? If it's Trump or Hillary, it's 6 of one or a half-dozen of the other.
Do you think people will suddenly start voting for Trump because they hear him start insulting her in vulgar terms? "Oh wow he really tore her a new one, I'll forget about all of that other crap in his life, I'm totally on the Trump train now!"
Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:01 AM (dpnZC)

Trump hasn't said but 500 words about policy in the entire primary, because getting into the weeds on policy is not a winning play against senators, governors, and political operatives with whom your own views closely align. No point in getting into an argument about whether having a 85% Conservative Score is better than having an 83% Conservative Score. What he did was differentiate himself and appeal to populist anger - by any means necessary.

When running against a big-government arch-liberal with legal and financial skeletons in her closet and 30 years of high negatives, policy will become his strong suit. He can largely abandon the bully identity, put on the green visor, and start asking questions - something Hillary simply cannot handle. Prepare to hear lots of cackling between July and November. He will win over every conservative and make liberals question their whole political identity.

The left must answer. The right, whose members are either complicit or lack spine, has been rejected in favor of an appropriate agent.

'I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.'

Sit back and enjoy the show. And please do ctrl-c/ctrl-v this comment so we can discuss it after the first debate.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (xuouz)

206 190 ... If Cruz's wife actually WAS a shape-shifting global financier ... He'd be luckier than a three-peckered billy goat.

Can you imagine ? "Hey babe - I love you - could we do the You Turn Into Kate Upton thing tonite ?".

Man would be a damn fool to run for president with something like that at home.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (8v0G6)

207 That Sammy Kohn guy gets on my nerves.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (evdj2)

208 Milady: Or, is that one of those things, if you don't know, don't googul it?

Posted by: mindful webworker - married a wise woman


See also: Game of Thrones, nerd rage, old spoilers, trolling level: GRR Martin

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (9krrF)

209 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (iQIUe)



Wow. God bless and protect that man. I think Christianity under persecution grows stronger. Which I guess means, we are about to grow stronger. Some will fall away because they don't want to stick their neck out. I think it will come to this. Soon-to-be-mister and I were talking about this the other day. We agreed that the two of us will stick our necks out.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (dFi94)

210

Van Jones: Wake Up, Dems, Trump is Probably Going to be President

"If 30 percent of black voters are open to Trump's argument, and he gets half of those, he's president."


ha-ha

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/van-jones-wake-dems-trump-probably-going-be-president

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (qCMvj)

211 Posted by: the real ch3 at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (wHYXk)

Keep your head down out there man.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (xuouz)

212 Cruz failed.

In a last desperate attempt to win he sided with the gope.

That merely increased the magnitude of his failure.

Cruz = Fail

Posted by: eman at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (MQEz6)

213 >> I wanna talk about Stacy's mom.
>> (I hear she's got it going on...)

Because there's never a wrong time for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (o+SC1)

214 I question the mental health of anyone who can't see the bait and switch

PR game he's playing. You fall for it every freaking time. He's got a

dollar bill on a string and Truecons are screaming at everyone that it's

haunted. Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 10:02 AM
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Huh? Which one? Since it is our own GOK, I would guess that the accusation is against Cruz, but really?

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (MIKMs)

215 re 196: the way Allison Camerata was defending Hillery on CNN this morning, you'd think she wanted to be Hillery's press secretary.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenwurst Vt at May 03, 2016 11:11 AM (qSIlh)

216 Looks like 3 card monte to me.
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Yes, we need another scammer in the White House.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:12 AM (U+nHb)

217 Anonosaurus Wrecks #182: ...CNN political commentator Sally Kohn claiming the only reason people are voting for Trump is because he's "a white guy."...

He is?? I thought he was of the Orange people. You know, like Boehner.

Posted by: mindful webworker - identifying as blue at May 03, 2016 11:12 AM (vDbXI)

218 ISIS launched a major coordinated attack at dawn against pesh positions north and west of Mosul.

That "degraded" "JV" team continues to punch up.
God rest his soul.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2016 11:12 AM (SeD0w)

219 212
Cruz failed.


In a last desperate attempt to win he sided with the gope.


That merely increased the magnitude of his failure.




He did win Lindsey Graham's support and fawning attention.





eww

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (Gwldq)

220 Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (xuouz)

Kari, can you provide *any evidence whatsoever* to back up your assertions that lurking inside the human being referred to as Donald Trump is this brilliant intellect and policy wonk just waiting to be unleashed at the appropriate time?

Otherwise, this just looks like wishcasting to me.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (dpnZC)

221 I was in line to see the premier of The Empire Strikes Back when Cruz's dad told me Darth Vader is Luke's father.

Posted by: Nerd at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (8aOqE)

222
>>Trump hasn't said but 500 words about policy in the entire primary, because getting into the weeds on policy is not a winning play against senators, governors, and political operatives with whom your own views closely align. No point in getting into an argument about whether having a 85% Conservative Score is better than having an 83% Conservative Score. What he did was differentiate himself and appeal to populist anger - by any means necessary.

Not true. He's said a lot. It's just that most Trump supporters don't want to hear it or just cherry pick the parts they want to hear cause it would be inconvenient to talk about his actual statements.

But hey, someone who John Boehner calls a texting buddy and golfing partner is really going to rock the system, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (/tuJf)

223 Yes, yes, we get it, Trump is a 3 dimensional chess player.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:05 AM (U+nHb)


Hmmm-no.

He seems to have an outline of where he wants to go, but the details he leaves to be filled in as events occur. He is not as scripted as consultants and advisors have made candidates over the past few years.

I put the ultra-scripting down to the requirements of donors wanting certain things for their money, pressure groups wanting certain things also, and the tendency of lawyers to want to leave nothing to chance. The flexibility disappears and when something comes in that you have not planned for a lot of campaigns waste time offering canned responses before getting something useful in place - usually too late.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (hLRSq)

224 218 ... No kidding.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (8v0G6)

225 If Cruz's wife actually WAS a shape-shifting global financier ... He'd be luckier than a three-peckered billy goat.
Can you imagine ? "Hey babe - I love you - could we do the You Turn Into Kate Upton thing tonite ?"
Man would be a damn fool to run for president with something like that at home.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (8v0G6)

That's how they get you! A couple months of the "tonight I'm Christy Mack/Megyn Kelly/the new receptionist at your office!" routine and then it's "You're going to help me take over the Senate Appropriations Committee or it's Helen Thomas from here on out."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (xuouz)

226 Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:09 AM (o+SC1)

Yes I agree that the prepared speeches make him seem more the typical politician.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:14 AM (6qmBU)

227 http://tinyurl.com/hsul47z
Posted by: the real ch3 at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (wHYXk)

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Someone on an earlier thread linked a video of SF giving tactical help with air strikes. I wonder if if was one of those SEALS.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:14 AM (U+nHb)

228 Honestly Cruz could have taken up the mantle of outsider, bad boy of the
Senate, from the start and be winning right now. But I think he
listened to consultants instead.
...

???

That's been the major focus of his campaign, and moreover he has an actual record of fighting against the GOPe, who loathe him. In just the last few days Boehner has said how much he hates Cruz and what a good friend he is with Trump, and Trump has said Cruz was too mean to Trump's friend McConnell.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:14 AM (ozZau)

229
Who cares?
Honestly, who cares? If it's Trump or Hillary, it's 6 of one or a half-dozen of the other.
Do you think people will suddenly start voting for Trump because they hear him start insulting her in vulgar terms? "Oh wow he really tore her a new one, I'll forget about all of that other crap in his life, I'm totally on the Trump train now!"
Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:01 AM (dpnZC)
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This is a time of rebellion and rejection in which we consider the alternatives, an egregious example being Jeb declining to make Bill's "dalliances" part of his campaign. As a female, I can't even begin to tell you how loathsome this is to me. To call Bill Clinton's sexual predations "dalliances" is so loathsome that I'm tempted to say the GOP *is* waging a war on women. Fortunately, I'm stronger than the devil in this regard and I can get to the point where I say that Our Betters in the Uniparty Political Elite are waging a war on non-elite women. If Trump is the first-ever major candidate to call out the Clintons for their partnership in sexual predation, that's something.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 11:14 AM (pC96u)

230 Sit back and enjoy the show. And please do ctrl-c/ctrl-v this comment so we can discuss it after the first debate. Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:10 AM (xuouz)
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Lie back, don't argue, and think of MAGA. SURRENDER DOROTHY.

Bleah.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 03, 2016 11:15 AM (MIKMs)

231
But you've seen Cruz do it multiple times off the cuff. just because his off the cuff is coherent and logical doesn't mean it's a rehearsed talking point.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:07 AM (6qmBU)


He is an appellate attorney and that colors his reactions (I have done appellate work). Even when he is off-the-cuff it still looks like he rehearsed it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 03, 2016 11:15 AM (hLRSq)

232 Think of it - an entire generation has been taught in school that this woman is the most qualified woman politician evah!

And yet....look at her numbers. Can you imagine how she would be doing without the constant fluffing?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2016 10:57 AM (NOIQH)

Briefly watched Fox and Friends this morning, Reporter was interviewing people on the street in Indianapolis, asking them who they were voting for and why.

Two were voting for Hillary. Why? Because she is the most qualified candidate running. One guy said, "ever". I was dying for the reporter to ask them why she was the most qualified.

Other than picking out White House china, running bimbo interference for Bill and then drinking and partying while on her trips as SOS, leaving men to die in Libya from illegal gun running, etc.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (391wI)

233 Luke, I am your fathers.

Posted by: Campbell's Gay F*cking Soup at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (Gwldq)

234 But hey, someone who John Boehner calls a texting buddy and golfing partner is really going to rock the system, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (/tuJf

But..... I play with yuge fabulous orange balls
Posted by: Donnie Trump

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (voOPb)

235 Trump's policy positions are going back, and to the Left, back and to the Left...

--

*golf clap*

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (+FSld)

236 @179, I don't think most people want swagger without substance, but this time it's an either/or choice, and having spent years trying out one option and accomplishing nothing, some voters are willing to try Door #2.

Posted by: Bubba at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (NfBD8)

237 Character matters. Well, it use to.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:17 AM (U+nHb)

238 Other than picking out White House china, running bimbo interference for Bill and then drinking and partying while on her trips as SOS, leaving men to die in Libya from illegal gun running, etc.

Don't forget rape victim slandering in her brief private sector career.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:17 AM (evdj2)

239 He is?? I thought he was of the Orange people. You know, like Boehner.

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Before he shortened it at Ellis Island, his name was Donald van der Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:17 AM (Nwg0u)

240 A lot of people making predictions about an election in a year without precedent.

I wouldn't be so sure about your predictions, guys. Most of us have been more wrong then usual, and generally speaking we're mostly wrong.

Posted by: Max Power at May 03, 2016 11:18 AM (QCc6B)

241
Steven Van Zandt slams "obnoxious idiots" who back #BDS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 11:18 AM (iQIUe)

242 If you want one explanation of Trump's rise, go look up Jim Trafficant.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (FQKBL)

243 Character matters. Well, it use to.

The character of the candidates reflects the character of the people.

Think about that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (9krrF)

244 Anonosaurus Wreck: Cruz's dad gave thirty pieces of silver to Judas.

That's a total fabrication perpetrated by the Zionist Enquirer!

Now, at the crucifixion, the guy who handed the sword to the Roman? Yeah.

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (vDbXI)

245 Character matters.

*echo echo*

This was what I was told when I held my nose and voted for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (Gwldq)

246 Kari, I wish I had as much faith in *anything* that you have in Trump. Fortunately, these predictions are at least falsifiable, and if you turn out to be right, I'll be the first one at the voting booth come November.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (KUaJL)

247 This is a time of rebellion and rejection in which we consider the alternatives

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Many of us are rebelling against Trump and considering the alternatives - none of which involve voting for him.

I hope the delegates rebel at the convention. If they fail and Trump secures the nomination and then wins on election day, I hope the electors of the electoral college rebel. I'll continue to hold out hope that it is not Trump.

Posted by: SH at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

248 And Trump has put out a lot of policy papers, but it's plainly obvious he hasn't read the details of any of them himself.

He lets Jeff Sessions write his immigration plan, then he contradicts it the very next day after it is unveiled.

His advisors write a tax plan, which is basically "Bush tax cuts on steroids". Not exactly original.

His health care plan is basically a regurgitation of conservative talking points from the past 30 years. Which is again contradicted by his public statements about wanting to nationalize health care.

His "policy mind" is basically "telling conservatives what I think they are wanting to hear, while trying to dodge the hard questions by making some outrageous statement that gets everyone talking about that instead of my own lack of understanding of anything substantial".

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (dpnZC)

249 People in the primaries are angry so they are voting for the angry candidate. It doesn't get any deeper than that.

Every cycle you demand a Constitutional Conservative
This year you get one
You will vote for the angry Liberal

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (evdj2)

250 Other than picking out White House china, running bimbo interference for Bill and then drinking and partying while on her trips as SOS, leaving men to die in Libya from illegal gun running, etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 03, 2016 11:16 AM (391wI)

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+1

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (U+nHb)

251 Other than picking out White House china, running bimbo interference for Bill and then drinking and partying while on her trips as SOS, leaving men to die in Libya from illegal gun running, etc.

Don't forget rape victim slandering in her brief private sector career.

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And the bimbo eruption tactics included killing victims' cat and slashing tires. Hill is a class act.,

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (Nwg0u)

252

I was wondering what exact languages were on the California ( State ) I Voted! sticker...

Espanol Spanish
Chinese
Hindi
Japanese
Khmer
Korean
Tagalog
Thai
Tieng Viet Vietnamese


pander much?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (qCMvj)

253 170
Goddamn I'm in a bad mood today. Damn black dog.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 11:00 AM (0mRoj)

i hope your mood improves......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (0O7c5)

254 Strangely enough, I was relieved to see the swear words coloring book.

I was expecting manga tentacle pron.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (AHDxb)

255 Every cycle you demand a Constitutional Conservative
This year you get one
You will vote for the angry Liberal
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (evdj2)

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This sums up my view nicely.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (U+nHb)

256 238 ... Yet the GOPe has declined the opportunity to take the nasty bitch to the woodshed.

Sure ... They'll hold a hearing for the cameras. That's about it.

The old-moneyed old fvckers just don't see what's so bad about her ... ot they're too scared of losing their cushy damn jobs to try.

I can't see any other alternative.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (8v0G6)

257 >>>Character matters. Well, it use to.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:17 AM (U+nHb)<<<
It still does. That's why the TV character is winning.

Posted by: oh... the other kind of character at May 03, 2016 11:21 AM (H9MG5)

258 Cruz has made a few mistakes

1. blaming Trump for the riots of the anti trumpers

2. comapring Trump to Hitler

3. saying Trump has a problem with strong women and then picking Forina, way too early

even if they are true, never good to mimic the talking points of the dems. sounds very much like he took the advice of the #NeverTrump advisors that flocked to him late

do. not. want.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:21 AM (zOTsN)

259 Pretty book, all colored by hand. I have my great grandmother's wedding certificate. It's beautiful, incorporates the story of Ruth and Boaz. They used home made ink to sign it. One of the witnesses was my great-great grandmother, and she is identified simply as Mrs. Wm Rogers.
I wish I had known these folks when they were alive.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:21 AM (uLuPn)

260 Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:17 AM (U+nHb)
It still does. That's why the TV character is winning.

Now if someone would sew His lips shut...

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:21 AM (O2RFr)

261 This was what I was told when I held my nose and voted for McCain and Romney.
Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (Gwldq)

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You sure as shit didn't hear that from me.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:22 AM (U+nHb)

262 >>>Yes, yes, we get it, Trump is a 3 dimensional chess player.<<<

Until Trump magically transforms into Genghis Khan and wipes out 3/4 of the Iranian Plateau, I'm totes underwhelmed.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2016 11:22 AM (UzPAd)

263 >>Every cycle you demand a Constitutional Conservative
This year you get one
You will vote for the angry Liberal

You just aren't angry enough. Or aesthetically pleasing. Or something.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2016 11:22 AM (/tuJf)

264 A lot of people making predictions about an election in a year without precedent.

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

265 Just think, Republicans could have put up another normal candidate and lost, and everyone could have moved on with their lives.

But no....voters had to shake things up and now everyone is in a panic and making things up.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 03, 2016 11:23 AM (3myMJ)

266 >>>If you want one explanation of Trump's rise, go look up Jim Trafficant.


Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (FQKBL)<<<

Both of us have weird head weasels?!

Posted by: zombie Jim Trafficant at May 03, 2016 11:23 AM (H9MG5)

267 I only hope that Trump is at least a Scoop Jackson democrat if he manages to win the general.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:23 AM (evdj2)

268 Trump says that people are saying it was Cruz's dad who peeled and sliced the apple and handed it to Eve and Adam. He's not saying that. Some people are.

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 11:23 AM (vDbXI)

269 I still would like to see Ace put up a poll asking the question.

In the general election ...
Will Trump Supporters vote Cruz
Will Cruz Supporters vote Trump

Posted by: spypeach at May 03, 2016 11:24 AM (nyYhO)

270 That sidebar video of Cruz yesterday, arguing with Trump supporters... Encapsulates the Cruz/Trump divide perfectly. Cruz will lose because he talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded. Ow, my balls! Trump has what plants crave!

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:24 AM (Jq95F)

271 If Trump is the first-ever major candidate to call out the Clintons for their partnership in sexual predation, that's something.
..

THAT is one of the three or so great things Trump has done in this campaign.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:24 AM (ozZau)

272 "That's how they get you! A couple months of the "tonight I'm Christy Mack/Megyn Kelly/the new receptionist at your office!" routine and then it's "You're going to help me take over the Senate Appropriations Committee or it's Helen Thomas from here on out."

You just took a nice fantasy and made it into a nightmare.

Posted by: Harun at May 03, 2016 11:24 AM (UBBWX)

273 One of the things that nags at me concerning Trump is the fact that so many are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to policy issues. I quite honestly don't know where he stands on issues that are important to me. Of the policy issues I HAVE heard him address, I simply don't believe him. (Example: Abortion. No, I do not for a second believe what he says about being pro-life).


It seems eerily similar to 2008 when a media-savvy non-entity became the nominee, then President, because people simply saw in him what they wished to see. He was so vague - he could be whatever you thought he was. People wanted change. Well, they got it.


Trump's run seems very similar to that. "What does he think about such-and-such?" I don't know. He said this, Then he said that. Then he said nothing at all. Blank slate. No voting record. Past decisions point to him being a NE liberal. Democrat, even. But hey! He's going to bring Change! Good enough!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (dFi94)

274 Rush Limbaugh said it perfectly yesterday - There is only one Donald. There will never be another one.
That should comfort those who don't like him. You only have to go through this once.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (uLuPn)

275 Every cycle you demand a Constitutional Conservative

This year you get one



And I voted for him, Grump.

And he lost.

What to do ?

*shrug*

I can either curl up in a ball and listed to Carly Simon records or try to turn this sow's ear into a lovely Michael Kors handbag.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (Gwldq)

276 Bo the Miner is gonna get the Joe the Plumber treatment. Bitch set him up - and he can expect an IRS audit soon, after asking the wrong questions in West Va.

Posted by: Roy at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (VndSC)

277
I hope the delegates rebel at the convention. If they fail and Trump secures the nomination and then wins on election day, I hope the electors of the electoral college rebel. I'll continue to hold out hope that it is not Trump.

Posted by: SH at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (gmeXX)


And if you get your wish??? The system burns...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (qf6WZ)

278 I heard that Ted Cruz' dad puts the toilet paper roll on the rack so that rolls out from the bottom.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

279 274
Rush Limbaugh said it perfectly yesterday - There is only one Donald. There will never be another one.

That should comfort those who don't like him. You only have to go through this once.



Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:25 AM (uLuPn)

Oh no, there are plenty of amoral demagogues out there

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (dpnZC)

280 Trump is the burning bag of dogshit on the porch of the GOPe.

Posted by: davidt at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (8aOqE)

281 Trump is the burning bag of dogshit on the porch of the GOPe.

With bad hair...

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (O2RFr)

282 "But, Cruz is young. Like Nixon, he needs to take this loss and learn from it"

Nixon was Canadian?

Posted by: Tricky Dicky at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (/sGNA)

283 Cruz's statement:

We need to learn to have disagreements without being disagreeable. To have disagreements while respecting human beings on the other side. Earlier today over thirty people were arrested at one rally. And then tonight, as violence broke out, the rally was canceled all together. Now, the responsibility for that lies with protesters who took violence into their own hands. But in any campaign responsibility starts at the top. Any candidate who is responsible for the culture of the campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (6qmBU)

284 hope the delegates rebel at the convention. If they fail and Trump secures the nomination and then wins on election day, I hope the electors of the electoral college rebel. I'll continue to hold out hope that it is not Trump.
Posted by: SH at May 03, 2016 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

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Down that path lies chaos.We dont just appoint people against the voting public.

You want a better candidate?? Make a better fucking argument. We have Trump because the GOPe hast sat on their fucking thumbs for the last 10 years.

What you describe is how Democrats operate. At least their out front and honest about their superdelegate shenanigans.

I would hope conservatives would be better, but perhaps not.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (8XRCm)

285 "That's how they get you! A couple months of the "tonight I'm Christy Mack/Megyn Kelly/the new receptionist at your office!" routine and then it's "You're going to help me take over the Senate Appropriations Committee or it's Helen Thomas from here on out."

What's the difference between a wife and a girlfriend?

45 pounds.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (uLuPn)

286

Indiana
Type of Primary: Primary
Number of Delegates: 57 Total Delegates


Recent polling?

http://bit.ly/1QG8hj8

Trump
Cruz
Kasich

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (qCMvj)

287 Horrible interminable meeting finally ended.

Going through last thread for advice given. Thanks in advance

Posted by: Bigby's Hobo Gloves at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (3ZtZW)

288 I still think, if Trump hadn't ran as strong as he did, the GOP would've just tanked Cruz instead.

And still will, if they can.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (8v0G6)

289

friggin' Beck isn't helping anyone

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (qCMvj)

290 I think Trump goes in with enough delegates. There will not be a contested convention.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (zOTsN)

291 "That's how they get you! A couple months of the "tonight I'm Christy Mack/Megyn Kelly/the new receptionist at your office!" routine and then it's "You're going to help me take over the Senate Appropriations Committee or it's Helen Thomas from here on out."

What's the difference between a husband and a boyfriend/

45 minutes.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (uLuPn)

292 Remember in Asimov's Foundation Cycle? 'The Mule'?


I think it is like that.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (Gwldq)

293 Nixon was Canadian?
Posted by: Tricky Dicky at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (/sGNA)

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OFFS

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (U+nHb)

294 BTW, there is going to be a big jump in Obamacare prices announced November 1st. Double digit price hike.

/just sayin'

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (AHDxb)

295 Finally...

Boehner called Ted Cruz "Lucifer."

That's totally bogus.

But, when Lucifer was hesitating about rebellion against and rejection of the Almighty, who encouraged him to go ahead? That's right. Cruz's dad.

Posted by: mindful webworker - politically suspect at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (vDbXI)

296 friggin' Beck isn't helping anyone

Yep, I think it's straight jacket time....

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (O2RFr)

297 I heard that Ted Cruz' dad puts the empty bottle of ketchup back in the refrigerator.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (KUaJL)

298 I think Trump goes in with enough delegates. There will not be a contested convention.
Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:27 AM (zOTsN)

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If he wins Indiana today... its over.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (8XRCm)

299 And if you get your wish??? The system burns...

You say that as it it's a bad thing.

I want to push this SOB until it breaks and burns.

Then I want to see what "the people" are ready to do about it.

And then...I'll know what needs doing. One way or another.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (9krrF)

300 That sidebar video of Cruz yesterday, arguing with Trump supporters... Encapsulates the Cruz/Trump divide perfectly.

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You sure got that right.

Posted by: SH at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (gmeXX)

301 This ought to settle the argument once and for all. From ABC News:

President Obama Says Donald Trump Is Not Equipped to Be President

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (Nwg0u)

302 And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:26 AM (6qmBU)


yup. That there, that finger wagging didnt help. Neither did Beck

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (zOTsN)

303 294 BTW, there is going to be a big jump in Obamacare prices announced November 1st. Double digit price hike.


I'm sure they will manage to hold off announcement until after the election...

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (O2RFr)

304

I love when this happens. Should have been Ace.

David Brooks should stay in his little bourgeois strata

If in the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is king, then columnist David Brooks of the New York Times is blind, deaf and dumb inside the Beltway.

In an election year where all the experts have been exactly wrong about absolutely everything, it really is something of a feat to be as spectacularly and enthusiastically wrong as Mr. Brooks.

http://bit.ly/21t3Pwf

the washington times

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (qCMvj)

305 Beck dunked his head in a bowl of Cheetos.

He's really not helping.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (uLuPn)

306
Many of us are rebelling against Trump and considering the alternatives - none of which involve voting for him.

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Rebellion is usually targeted at the ruling party. You probably belong in the Rejection camp. I wander between both.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (pC96u)

307 Ted Cruz' dad probably orders his steak well done.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (KUaJL)

308
Video of the beheading of Canadian hostage John Ridsdel posted on internet and deadline given for reaming hostages. So, what is pretty boy Trudeau going to do about it?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (iQIUe)

309 270 That sidebar video of Cruz yesterday, arguing with Trump supporters... Encapsulates the Cruz/Trump divide perfectly. Cruz will lose because he talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded. Ow, my balls! Trump has what plants crave!
Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:24 AM (Jq95F)

Trump supporters were smug lefty facsimiles.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (6qmBU)

310 "They [Democrats] don't demonize whole sections of the population [except those in 'flyover']," added [Andrew] Sullivan. "They don't discriminate on the basis of people's religion [except Christians who don't accept abortion]. They don't claim they're actually going to round up 11 million human beings [but they do believe they can round-up 300 million guns]."

Posted by: James T Kirk at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (UWzjE)

311
The Zapata video:

http://tinyurl.com/hc8sf58

Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (Zs4uk)

312 Cruz' dad doesnt replace the toilet paper roll

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (zOTsN)

313 Trump is the burning bag of dogshit on the porch of the GOPe.

He's the Boehner buddy who just said Cruz was too mean to McConnell.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (ozZau)

314 Cruz's dad stole my first wife!


Wait, I think I'm doing this wrong, that was ok..

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (aQQbl)

315 Poor Cruz.

He's talking now and it's just sad.

Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (Zs4uk)

316 I think Cruz was our best chance against the GOPe. Trump is either a 40 state loss and an I-told-you-so from the Establishment, or a win and deal-maker with them. Either way they are empowered, not diminished.

YMMV and clearly does for many Morons.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (evdj2)

317 >> You want a better candidate?? Make a better fucking
>> argument. We have Trump because the GOPe hast sat on
>> their fucking thumbs for the last 10 years.

Word.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (o+SC1)

318 That manuscript is awesome and all, but like 9 people outside of the church and royalty at the time could a)afford a chance to even view something like it much less own it b)could fucking read.
So yeah, progress is kinda cool.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (1H9ox)

319 Anyone other Cruz people here feeling as depressed as I am this morning? Everyone is telling us today is the end of the line for him.

Posted by: Sassy at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (V7qBU)

320 So what's this I hear that Cruz's' Father shot JFK?

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (O2RFr)

321 Cruz's statement:

We need to learn to have disagreements without being disagreeable.



Romney did that. Dole did that. McCain did that. Nixon did that. Ford did that.

What did Obama do? "Get in their faces, punch back twice as hard. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. The Chicago way."

Who won?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (kiV5j)

322
BTW, there is going to be a big jump in Obamacare prices announced November 1st. Double digit price hike.
/just sayin'
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD


Perhaps the announcement will be delayed a week or so.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (k4M/B)

323 I think Cruz was our best chance against the GOPe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (evdj2)


yep, 100%

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (qCMvj)

324 Cruz' dad drinks milk out of the carton

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (zOTsN)

325 I told Ted Cruz' Dad what I was getting my wife for her birthday, and he did the same thing for his wife who has a birthday a week before her, so now I can't do it now.

(I'm not married, but this story has the tenor of truth, so I'm going to say it happened anyway.)

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (KUaJL)

326 I think Trump goes in with enough delegates. There will not be a contested convention.

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I can't vouch for its veracity but an article the other day said a number of Cruz delegates are considering jumping ship to stop the bleeding.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (Nwg0u)

327
294 BTW, there is going to be a big jump in Obamacare prices announced November 1st. Double digit price hike.


I'm sure they will manage to hold off announcement until after the election...
Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:29 AM (O2RFr)
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I recall that in a previous election year they tried to get the insurers to delay the release of their rates -- although that would be against the law or some such.

But while we're on the topic, it's odd to me the way Obamacare is barely a topic these days. Is it because we're all in primary fever? Waves of damage are looming on the horizon.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (pC96u)

328 And if you get your wish??? The system burns...

You say that as it it's a bad thing.

I want to push this SOB until it breaks and burns.

Then I want to see what "the people" are ready to do about it.

And then...I'll know what needs doing. One way or another.
Posted by: Brother Cavil




As has been said, we ain't voting our way out of this mess.

The sooner people realize this.......

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (cWLG9)

329 If Cruz cannot win the primary he will never win the general

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (zOTsN)

330 Who won?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (kiV5j)

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Twice.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:33 AM (8XRCm)

331 Kari, can you provide *any evidence whatsoever* to back up your assertions that lurking inside the human being referred to as Donald Trump is this brilliant intellect and policy wonk just waiting to be unleashed at the appropriate time?
Otherwise, this just looks like wishcasting to me.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 11:13 AM (dpnZC)

Well, you're just going to dismiss it out of hand because as a republican you're addicted to being disappointed and feeling like a tragic hero that the world just doesn't get, and also you're smarter than me, but I'll try.

Your whole view of DJT is predicated on the idea that he's a lucky idiot. That this man who has thrived and prospered in real estate/construction, show business, and global investment for 50 years did it all on a fluke, that he's blundered his way into success for every reason, any reason, or no reason at all except his own media savvy and cutthroat business instinct.

You can't get over the bombast, the stupid hair, the weird and disjointed speech, and the cheap decadence (en espanol se llama esta preocupaccion "estetica"). He can't effect policy specifics until he's president. Until then it's a PR game. He's winning.

Our society is decadent and depraved. And it has seeped into our ideology along with everything else. In a country where illegal immigrants have a right to free healthcare, where sharia cannot be publicly criticized but Christians can be summarily fired for a verbal misstep, where gender is a social construct and paying back a loan is patriarchal oppression, common sense is ugly and loathesome. The hour is late. And yes, I'm saying you have internalized this. We argue the opposite side of the liberal argument, instead of rejecting the premise of the argument itself. You must reject the comfort of mainstream conservatism. It is the other side of the liberal coin. We've been Punch to their Judy. I, for one, won't be anymore.

Trump keeps doing exactly the right thing for each situation. Not to fit an ideological profile, as you would like to see, just to win at the polls. I can't explain it, but it's undeniable. I trust that he'll continue to do so. And that he'll do it against Hillary as well. And if he does, he will have defeated both the houses of Bush and Clinton. And then anything will be possible. Maybe even balancing the budget and paying off the debt.

Politicians lie on the campaign trail about specifics, but they can't hide who they are. Obama told us he wanted to "fundamentally transform America." Trump wants to make America great again.

It's ok guys. He's on our team. We're going to defeat the left, just when victory was within their grasp. And we're going to do it together.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:34 AM (xuouz)

332 >>>Trump supporters were smug lefty facsimiles.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (6qmBU)<<<

Good... good, my young apprentices.



Posted by: Peggy Joseph at May 03, 2016 11:34 AM (H9MG5)

333 Trump supporters were smug lefty facsimiles.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (6qmBU)

That genius questioned Cruz on his 2A bona fides, so he's obviously not familiar with Cruz's role in Heller or the GOA endorsement, but he supports a guy who just a few years ago was calling for more gun control.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:34 AM (ozZau)

334
Romney did that. Dole did that. McCain did that. Nixon did that. Ford did that.

What did Obama do? "Get in their faces, punch back twice as hard. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. The Chicago way."

Who won?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse


Nixon

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 03, 2016 11:34 AM (k4M/B)

335 319 Anyone other Cruz people here feeling as depressed as I am this morning? Everyone is telling us today is the end of the line for him.

Posted by: Sassy at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (V7qBU)

I've been watching some of Trump's rallys. I knew it was over for Cruz a long time ago.
No other candidate from either political party is inspiring this much excitement.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (uLuPn)

336 So what's this I hear that Cruz's' Father shot JFK?

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He didn't shoot JFK. He just made sure Oswald's gun was sighted in properly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (Nwg0u)

337 We need to learn to have disagreements without being disagreeable.



Romney did that. Dole did that. McCain did that. Nixon did that. Ford did that.



What did Obama do? "Get in their faces, punch back twice as hard. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. The Chicago way."



Who won?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Yep.
The end result of over one hundred and fifty years of a professional political class.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (Gwldq)

338
Perhaps the announcement will be delayed a week or so.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 03, 2016 11:32 AM (k4M/B)
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I'm 99% sure that insurers are legally required to release the rates within a specific time-frame that happens to fall before the election. Not that that necessarily means anything.

Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (pC96u)

339 What did Obama do? "Get in their faces, punch back twice as hard. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. The Chicago way."

Who won?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Nixon

Carter, He's no longer gonna be known as the worst President evah!

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (O2RFr)

340 I can't vouch for its veracity but an article the other day said a number of Cruz delegates are considering jumping ship to stop the bleeding.

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I hope its true. We may be left with nothing but hope. But that's fine. I'm always hopeful.

Posted by: SH at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (gmeXX)

341 If you want to see someone in the middle of a depressed meltdown, turn on the tv.

Cruz is off the deep end.

Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (Zs4uk)

342 Denial is the highest sacrament of the republican party.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (xuouz)

343 Posted by: naturalfake at May 03, 2016 10:26 AM (oU3Bb)

Completely true. If he had stood with Trump and called these aholes out I think the primary season would look a lot different.

But he panicked.

Posted by: Abby Coffey at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (HBU7W)

344
Point of order.


I wouldnt exactly put Nixon in the "respect for your adversaries" column.

Sumbitch was ruthless.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (8XRCm)

345 296
friggin' Beck isn't helping anyone



Yep, I think it's straight jacket time....

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:28 AM (O2RFr)
he became what he hated.....calls for calm and ghandi like behavior.....and then shoves his face in cheetos to mock trump......then back to fasting and praying.....reminds me exactly of Gen Washington.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (0O7c5)

346 I bet that bitch is playing "Dead Hooker #2", the role I was up for.

Bitch.

Posted by: penny hofstadter at May 03, 2016 11:36 AM (f4AGl)

347
I've been watching some of Trump's rallys. I knew it was over for Cruz a long time ago.
No other candidate from either political party is inspiring this much excitement.

Excitement or curiosity? You know, like looking at a car wreck....

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:37 AM (O2RFr)

348 Well, that is one similarity, zombie Jim. Seriously, everyone I personally know who has expressed admiration for Trump, grew up in the Youngstown, OH area and also supported Trafficant. If you are confused by the Trump support wave, you could do worse than to check out Trafficant's career. He actually got people to vote for him while he was in prison. Won the election, I believe.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:37 AM (FQKBL)

349 Ted Cruz' dad drives 50 mph in the left lane.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:38 AM (IYvtl)

350 I'm 99% sure that insurers are legally required to release the rates within a specific time-frame that happens to fall before the election. Not that that necessarily means anything.
Posted by: iforgot at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (pC96u)

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And Im 99% sure its illegal for the IRS to antagonize groups seeking 403C status based on political orientation.

But here we are.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:38 AM (8XRCm)

351 Anyone other Cruz people here feeling as depressed as I am this morning?
Everyone is telling us today is the end of the line for him.



Posted by: Sassy at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (V7qBU)

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I'm not particularly depressed in regards to Cruz. I haven't really been emotionally invested in this campaign since Walker, then Jindal dropped out. The rest? Meh. What I am depressed about is the condition of our country. It makes me weep that my grandchildren will not grow up in the America that I did. We've turned the corner, and no politician is going to save us. Not one.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 11:38 AM (dFi94)

352 I'm not particularly depressed in regards to Cruz. I haven't really been emotionally invested in this campaign since Walker, then Jindal dropped out. The rest? Meh. What I am depressed about is the condition of our country. It makes me weep that my grandchildren will not grow up in the America that I did. We've turned the corner, and no politician is going to save us. Not one.

Posted by: grammie winger


grammie, My feelings exactly...

Posted by: donna at May 03, 2016 11:39 AM (O2RFr)

353 335 - Obama generated that level of excitement back in 2008 and you see where that got us. Generating excitement in people doesn't equal great president. I feel like this man duped so many people....it will cost us the election. And if he does manage to win the general, God help us all.

Posted by: Sassy at May 03, 2016 11:39 AM (V7qBU)

354 Looks like persons of priveledge carrying ceremonial maces to demonstrate their priveledges to the peasantry. Or could be arrows if you're a moron. Either way works.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at May 03, 2016 11:40 AM (VqgYB)

355 in 15 minutes....the cruz prayer begins.....anyone want the number and code to join? i'll post it if you'd like

it begins at 9am pst

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:40 AM (0O7c5)

356 Ted Cruz's dad is the one who talked the boys into going to Porky's nightclub to hire a prostitute.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2016 11:40 AM (UzPAd)

357 Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:20 AM (0O7c5)

Thanks. I'd take up drinking but I know from firsthand experience it won't make me feel any better.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2016 11:40 AM (0mRoj)

358 Donna, you should watch one of his rallys. They are a lot of fun. Everyone there, except the paid protestors, love him.

They wait in long lines for hours to see him. There are thousands in attendance and more who couldn't get in the door.

This is more than what Obama had in 2008.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (uLuPn)

359 You want a better candidate?? Make a better fucking argument

Cruz makes the right argument. But people don't want argument. The hate Cruz because "his wife worked for Goldman Sachs" but ignore that Trump is "Goldman Sachs." They want empty slogans and gaudy flash. They want Trump. See yesterday's sidebar video.

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (Jq95F)

360 Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (evdj2)

Yep. It's not over yet, but it might be soon. maybe when Trump picks Alex Jones as his press secretary people will begin to get a clue, but by then it'll be too late.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (ozZau)

361 Gee, I wonder why the Postman stealing tax refunds ran with a generic USPS photo (like mailboxes) in most of the MFM reports instead of a photo of the accused?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/guhwnfo

A real mystery there.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (f4AGl)

362 No other candidate from either political party is inspiring this much excitement.

Excitement or curiosity? You know, like looking at a car wreck....



What other candidate puts 40,000 butts in seats at a rally?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (cWLG9)

363 Cruz's dad picks Ginger over Maryann.

Posted by: Blue Balled Gilligan at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (8aOqE)

364 We've turned the corner, and no politician is going to save us. Not one.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 11:38 AM (dFi94)
__________________________________


I don't think they ever could have saved us.
Ma used to say that we are a product of our own making, the savior you seek is also the devil that created the mess. She knew even then that the majority trading Moral Right and Wrong for Popular Right and Wrong would not end well.

Posted by: IP at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (aQQbl)

365 Iowahawk once published a pic of sheet music. One page was composed by Duke Ellington. It was a complex, layered, dazzling composition. The one next to it was composed by Kanye it had a single note repeated at regular intervals along the exact same line.

The gearshift of evolution slipped into reverse 45 years ago.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (GvSpB)

366 I read an article from an ostensibly conservative website, that said Ted Cruz was (gasp!) a secret Pentecostal !! OH MY oh my oh my.


We have become them. I'm sick of the whole thing.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (dFi94)

367 Beck dunked his head in a bowl of Cheetos.

He's really not helping.

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You sure it wasn't Fruit Loops?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)

368 Cruz makes the right argument. But people don't want argument. The hate Cruz because "his wife worked for Goldman Sachs" but ignore that Trump is "Goldman Sachs." They want empty slogans and gaudy flash. They want Trump. See yesterday's sidebar video.
...

Celebrity culture over substance. I picked a good decade to get cancer.

Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (ozZau)

369 I wouldnt exactly put Nixon in the "respect for your adversaries" column.

Sumbitch was ruthless.



In private. So was LBJ in private. In public, LBJ especially, they were statesmen. And way back then the media people were all democrats with bylines.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 03, 2016 11:43 AM (kiV5j)

370 What other candidate puts 40,000 butts in seats at a rally?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2016 11:42 AM (cWLG9)

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Bernie.


Dont think for a minute Hillary has this sewn up yet. She'll probably be the nominee, but I wouldnt spike the ball just yet.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:43 AM (8XRCm)

371 Ted Cruz' dad eats pizza with a fork.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2016 11:44 AM (IYvtl)

372 345
296

friggin' Beck isn't helping anyone






Beck needs a little time at Trembling Hills doing macrame bead crafts and plain yogurt lunches.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:45 AM (Gwldq)

373 That genius questioned Cruz on his 2A bona fides, so he's obviously not familiar with Cruz's role in Heller or the GOA endorsement, but he supports a guy who just a few years ago was calling for more gun control.

The protestor wears camo and has a rural accent, so he totes knows what he's talking about!

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:45 AM (Jq95F)

374
We have become them. I'm sick of the whole thing.

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I think thats the plan. Cause folks to lose faith and trust in the institutions.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:45 AM (8XRCm)

375 Just saw a CNN video of PA dems who switched to Republican to vote for Trump so he would be our candidate.

6 of the 12 Voted for Trump in the primaries because they want him to lose to Hillary.

90,000 PA voters switched parties.

Our primary system is shit.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 03, 2016 11:45 AM (U+nHb)

376 the Postman stealing tax refunds>>>

This guy is a true Brain Sturgeon. Stole 72 checks worth $443K sold them for $3,600 and lost at least $45k a year job.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 03, 2016 11:45 AM (tf9Ne)

377 This reminds me of the scene in one of the Godfather movies where Michael Corleone is riding through the streets of Havana, and a revolutionary gets killed. Michael knew that the current regime's days were numbered when he saw that.

Posted by: ALH at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (uLuPn)

378 There are three components to speechifying

The Speaker
The Message
The Audience

Trump has an apolitical persona, a simple, robust message, and his audience is every American citizen.

Cruz has a trial lawyer/social conservative persona, an intellectual, complex message which requires heavy lift on the part of his listeners, and his audience is committed conservatives.

I like Cruz, but Trump represents a special opportunity to widen the republican tent and lure people away from leftism, both by personifying an apolitical nationalism and shining a light on the left (because let's face it, the LIV does not have Ted Cruz soundbytes delivered to him. Quite the opposite).

Hey wow what does Hillary's profile look like...

This whole election is over. It's time for Republicans to stop backbiting and figure out what we're going to do. Frankly I'm not holding my breath, as you're still all thrashing about trying to fight a battle you lost in December.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (xuouz)

379 US "Soldier" killed in Iraq was a Navy Seal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (V/InG)

380 -
He didn't shoot JFK. He just made sure Oswald's gun was sighted in properly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:35 AM (Nwg0u)

He must have done that after Oswald missed an easy shot at General Edwin Walker in his kitchen. A little piece of forgotten history.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (3myMJ)

381 The protestor wears camo and has a rural accent

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I wear camo and have a rural accent.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (8XRCm)

382 Yep. It's not over yet, but it might be soon. maybe
when Trump picks Alex Jones as his press secretary people will begin to
get a clue, but by then it'll be too late. Posted by: stace at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (ozZau)

=====

Pecker for press secretary. After all, the National Enquirer was right about Edwards (?). Pecker - Earnest. Behold the fearsome symmetry.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (MIKMs)

383 Ted Cruz's dad unplugged my phone from the charger before I went to bed last night.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:47 AM (xuouz)

384 "Cause folks to lose faith and trust in the institutions."

About 25 years too late for that...

Posted by: navybrat at May 03, 2016 11:47 AM (8QGte)

385 Cruz's dad double-dips Doritos in the guacamole.

Posted by: Susan's Brother at May 03, 2016 11:47 AM (8aOqE)

386 Anyone see Jimmy Kimmel last night?

I normally don't watch, but was up late.

Long segment about climate change that wasn't funny, just basically a diatribe about how stupid people are that don't buy into it.

When did every form of media become left-wing propaganda? I can't even turn on a kid's show anymore without preaching left-wing nonsense to my kids.

Posted by: Bally at May 03, 2016 11:48 AM (C6cBW)

387 I wear camo and have a rural accent.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (8XRCm)


Then you are an unimpeachable paragon of truth!
Not like that lawyer Cruz in his faggity "Goldman Sachs jacket" (actual quote)

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:49 AM (Jq95F)

388 Beck needs a little time at Trembling Hills doing macrame bead crafts and plain yogurt lunches.

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And adult coloring books.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 03, 2016 11:49 AM (Nwg0u)

389 cruz prayer team conference call

302-202-1108

code 107646

9am




Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:49 AM (0O7c5)

390 Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2016 11:41 AM (f4AGl)


Champagne admitted to stealing 72 Department of Treasury checks worth $443,000...

Jeez that's $6,150 average per check.

Posted by: Golfman at May 03, 2016 11:49 AM (jIgQw)

391 When did every form of media become left-wing propaganda?

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**flips through notebook**

1988 as near as I can tell. Vowed to never let another Reagan type get elected without a fight.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:50 AM (8XRCm)

392 380 -
"He didn't shoot JFK. He just made sure Oswald's gun was sighted in properly. "


I thought Trump was saying Cruz's dad was Oswald's Cuban lover.

Posted by: jwest at May 03, 2016 11:50 AM (Zs4uk)

393 Suspended Labour councillor Shah Hussain says he's being picked on for being Muslim, denies comparing Israelis to Hitler is anti-Semitic.

Someone should take that asshole's shovel away before he hits China

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 10:10 AM (V/InG)


I saw the DM story yesterday. I think the Husain creature is a muzz woman.


Mossad needs to get an army of assassins in the field, and pop these assholes with a suppressed 9 mm, one behind the ear, and leave 'em lie in the street.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2016 11:50 AM (TPAM2)

394
When did every form of media become left-wing propaganda? I can't even turn on a kid's show anymore without preaching left-wing nonsense to my kids.

Posted by: Bally at May 03, 2016 11:48 AM (C6cBW)

Due to that I stopped watching TV years ago other than a few football games and old DVDs. Don't miss it a bit.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (3myMJ)

395 331

First of all, your view of Trump as a genius businessman is incorrect. Trump is a media figure. He has been a "reality star" since before there was reality television - since before you were born. His fortune (much less then he claims) is not predicated on wise deals and sound fiscal management but on doing outrageous things to stay in the tabloid press and then licensing his name. He is a Paris Hilton, a Kardashian, both of whom have done very well out of the same kind of media exposure and licensing. You are voting for his character on the Apprentice, not anything that is remotely real.

The primary reason he is winning is because of constant media coverage - again, his forte as a tabloid star. You have convinced yourself he is brilliant, which means everything he does is brilliant, even if its clearly moronic. This is the cult of personality. It is voting for a man, not for ideals. And it is toxic.

The idea that you say Trump wants to "Make America Great Again" and believe it and then turn around and accuse opponents of basing opinions on "aesthetics" is absurd.

Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (mFkVC)

396 Ted's dad dealt the queen of diamonds to Oswald.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (k4M/B)

397 "What other candidate puts 40,000 butts in seats at a rally?"

I'd go to one to see which National Enquirer story he'd bring up that day, or what conspiracy theory would suddenly become the hot topic.

Has Trump found a Hillary Clinton birther argument yet? I assume he has Corey working on that.

Posted by: Harun at May 03, 2016 11:52 AM (UBBWX)

398 Well, that is one similarity, zombie Jim. Seriously, everyone I personally know who has expressed admiration for Trump, grew up in the Youngstown, OH area and also supported Trafficant. If you are confused by the Trump support wave, you could do worse than to check out Trafficant's career. He actually got people to vote for him while he was in prison. Won the election, I believe.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 03, 2016 11:37 AM (FQKBL)

Barb, not to be picky, but Traficant is spelled with one f, not two.
Jim Traficant was the Mahoning county sheriff when the steel industry had collapsed and the economy of Youngstown fell to levels rivalling Islamabad's. He refused to serve foreclosure notices. He arrested what was left of the mobsters that remained in the area, once a big deal in Youngstown because of the tremendous wealth in steel and auto manufacturing in the area formed by Pittsburgh and Youngstown. He also managed to beat a racketeering charge from the Feds' while acting as his own attorney. He became a folk hero. He was going to go to Washington and change things for the area.

Yes , he was a democrat who voted with the Republicans a lot. He was punished by the Democrats by not being given committee assignments.

Of course, as time went on , he eventually was arrested , charged, removed from congress and then sentenced for taking campaign contributions for his own personal use.

The only thing I see in common with Traficant is the lack of party loyalty that helped endear him to the populace. The populace of eastern Ohio, which eventually decided the shenanigans and prison record were enough, and they did not vote him back into office. He was running a second time , the first time from prison and the second time after release.

He got 15% of the vote, including while he was in prison.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 03, 2016 11:52 AM (391wI)

399 hey aop

here's our next group dinner when you get out here

http://tinyurl.com/hpthyco

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:53 AM (0O7c5)

400 I wear camo and have a rural accent.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:46 AM (8XRCm)

Then you are an unimpeachable paragon of truth!
Not like that lawyer Cruz in his faggity "Goldman Sachs jacket" (actual quote)
Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2016 11:49 AM (Jq95F)

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No.... my point was everybody is getting just a little too comfortable casting aspersions based on their view of the "other" side.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:53 AM (8XRCm)

401 Anyone other Cruz people here feeling as depressed as I am this morning? Everyone is telling us today is the end of the line for him.
Posted by: Sassy at May 03, 2016 11:31 AM (V7qBU)

I was depressed, but now I've just accepted the fact that we are more than likely looking at Hillary as President. Who knows, maybe it will bring the burning times sooner. On a positive note after Trump loses to Hillary I won't have to listen to all constant Trump Love.

Posted by: spypeach at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (nyYhO)

402 I'd vote for zombie Traficant over Trump. That brings up another question. Who had the weirdest hair?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (6qmBU)

403 Ted Cruz's dad only knocked the wind out of JFK. JFK died when he got his head stuck in a jumbo sized can of Campbell's Pork & Beans while Prince used him as a size queen.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 03, 2016 11:56 AM (GvSpB)

404 . On a positive note after Trump loses to Hillary I won't have to listen to all constant Trump Love.
Posted by: spypeach at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (nyYhO)

Most people here, with a few exceptions, have NO love for trump. many of us just hate hillary more

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2016 11:56 AM (V/InG)

405 Due to that I stopped watching TV years ago other than a few football games and old DVDs. Don't miss it a bit.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (3myMJ)

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Word.... though I remember a whole thread a while back chastising you, me and I think Sven because we didnt know who Honey Boo Boo was.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 03, 2016 11:56 AM (8XRCm)

406 Lyin Hillarity up.

Nood.

Posted by: Golfman at May 03, 2016 11:56 AM (jIgQw)

407 331

One further point - I don't think you ever actually explained why you feel Trump is on "our team," why he will do any other things you listed in the last thread. You just said he's really a businessman who is really good at PR.

Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 11:57 AM (mFkVC)

408 Ted Cruz's dad unplugged my phone from the charger before I went to bed last night.
...
Sociopath

Posted by: Hburress at May 03, 2016 11:57 AM (1H9ox)

409 402
I'd vote for zombie Traficant over Trump. That brings up another question. Who had the weirdest hair?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (6qmBU)
traficant's hair may not actually be hair.....i think trumps is hair.....it might not be his but it's still human?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:57 AM (0O7c5)

410
Sooo,, It was Cruz's dad that smacked me around and not that Lewand ow-ow-ow-ski...

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at May 03, 2016 11:58 AM (HSmrB)

411
I'd vote for zombie Traficant over Trump. That brings up another question. Who had the weirdest hair? Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (6qmBU)
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Blago. Although DT wins with his cadre of old guy cronies all sporting the improbably-colored pompadours.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 03, 2016 11:58 AM (MIKMs)

412 The primary reason he is winning is because of constant media coverage - again, his forte as a tabloid star. You have convinced yourself he is brilliant, which means everything he does is brilliant, even if its clearly moronic. This is the cult of personality. It is voting for a man, not for ideals. And it is toxic.
The idea that you say Trump wants to "Make America Great Again" and believe it and then turn around and accuse opponents of basing opinions on "aesthetics" is absurd.
Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (mFkVC)

I'm convinced he's a media savant and he's not an idiot, not that he's a genius. It wouldn't take a genius to run circles around literally any Republican. They're beta, bowtie wearing country club twits, without exception.

You're the one who believes in Magic Trump, the liberal stalking horse, hoodwinking the voting public and paving the way for Hillary Clinton, his every word a magic lie, his only goal the destruction of America. It's hilarious.

My enemy is the global socialist left, not republicans who don't meet my standards. I've been trying to convince everybody to get aboard this train not because I care about Trump but because I despise socialists and this is our best and most likely last opportunity to stop them. With leftist institutions exposed conservatism can flourish again, and only then.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 11:58 AM (xuouz)

413 I won't have to listen to all constant Trump Love.





*eyeroll*

Posted by: Mortimer at May 03, 2016 11:58 AM (Gwldq)

414 God is enough.....that's the opening thought

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 03, 2016 11:59 AM (0O7c5)

415 His fortune (much less then he claims) is not predicated on wise deals and sound fiscal management but on doing outrageous things to stay in the tabloid press and then licensing his name
Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 11:51 AM (mFkVC)

So Trump has not actually been involved in the day to day running of Trump Luxury Real Estate? He hasn't built buildings, rehabbed existing buildings, built and purchased golf courses, developed and managed hotels, built and managed casinos, rehabbed and managed the ice rink in NYC, run the Miss USA pagent, developed and run "The Apprentice" which broke the ground for future shows such as The Profit, and Shark Tank, etc.

He hasn't done any of this. No involvement whatsoever. Figment of the imagination of all the government officials, here in and numerous foreign countries, and business people who have all been involved in transactions and construction with him and his company.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 03, 2016 12:01 PM (391wI)

416 When did every form of media become left-wing propaganda?
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I loved Walter Cronkite. I loved his TV show, "You Are There" which recreated historical drama. I trusted him completely.

But I think it was 1968 after the Battle For Hue where Cronkite said, "This War Is Lost!" or words to that effect. That was the beginning of the end of my love for Uncle Walter.

So then it was Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, and Ted Koppel. For a time. Until 1972, 444 days of America held hostage, and finally Somalia for the children.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 03, 2016 12:01 PM (kiV5j)

417 One further point - I don't think you ever actually explained why you feel Trump is on "our team," why he will do any other things you listed in the last thread. You just said he's really a businessman who is really good at PR.
Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 11:57 AM (mFkVC)

Because that is what he's said he'll do and that's why people are voting for him. I've said it before: it is just as important that the voting public embraces conservative ideas as it is that a candidate puts them forward. People want law and order, they want a strong economy, they want our military to kick ass, and they don't want to be apologetic about it.

This is the whole thing about Trump: if he can be trusted to do what he says he'll do... is he still a bad candidate?

And that's why I call Trump opposition aesthetic.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 12:03 PM (xuouz)

418 Yeah, but the Lie made it halfway around the world again. Until people are held liable, (either criminally or in civil courts depending on the circumstances), for making false claims like this, the Left will continue to win. [krak/t]

Are you saying you want to...open up the libel laws?

hahaha

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 03, 2016 12:05 PM (xuouz)

419 412

No, I don't believe Trump is a "liberal stalking horse" at all (although if he was, I can't see how he'd behave any differently).

You still haven't actually explained WHY you think Trump is on "our team," since you dismiss everything he has ever said as PR at best or aesthetics at worst.

Would Trump's tactics work for anyone else? Anyone who wasn't a trash journalism star?

By the way, if the key to victory is smearing your opponent in the most absurd, despicable rumors, should Cruz be shouting about the CERTAINLY FALSE Trump-Epstein rumors? If Dad's are fair game, should Cruz go after Trump's unsavory Papa? or would that not be the way to win the PR game?

Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 12:05 PM (mFkVC)

420 417

So support for Trump is also "aesthetics?"

Posted by: person at May 03, 2016 12:07 PM (mFkVC)

421 Ok, if you're bored with the Crump wars, I have a blog post up.

Link in nic.

Posted by: @votermom at May 03, 2016 12:18 PM (nbrY/)

422 So, what is pretty boy Trudeau going to do about it?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 03, 2016 11:30 AM (iQIUe)


Nothing worthwhile, that you can be sure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2016 12:27 PM (TPAM2)

423 the real ones (illustrations at top) remind me of China Court, by Rumer Godden. Time to dig that out and reread, I guess!

Posted by: barbarausa at May 03, 2016 12:45 PM (h3IJ6)

424 If Cruz loses today and the race is "done" (even though Trump still will not have made the number of delegates that he needs, and even though there may be challenges to his delegates on the convention floor), I will cast my primary vote for Cruz and then join the libertarian party. I will not be associated with a party that chooses Donald Trump as its nominee.

And then I will hunker down through the next four Hillary years, resign myself to a liberal supreme court for the next thirty years, and hope that one day the country comes to its senses.

Posted by: Revenant at May 03, 2016 12:52 PM (y64uP)

425 I wear camo and have a rural accent.
It's okay, fixerupper. We'll type really s l o w for you!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2016 12:55 PM (f4AGl)

426 On a positive note after Trump loses to Hillary I won't have to listen to all constant Trump Love.

Posted by: spypeach at May 03, 2016 11:55 AM (nyYhO)

No, we'll just have to listen to 4 years of "WE LOST BECAUSE OF YOUUUUUUUUUUUU"

Posted by: chemjeff at May 03, 2016 12:58 PM (dpnZC)

427 Trump's dad is dead while Cruz's living father (not Living Father, I'd point out) is actively campaigning for him, new commenter.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2016 01:00 PM (f4AGl)

428 More like four years of "you Trumpkins gave us Hillary!!!" and I'd be willing to bet on that meme outpolling your predicted meme, CJ.

And I think it says alot about you TDS suffers that virtually all the MFM equating Trump to Hitler and there being plenty of anti-Trump commenters here (BTW a bunch of them admit they're for Rubio and other RINOs) including all of the cobs and Ace that you only see his supporters in the comments sections here and elsewhere. That's messed up.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2016 01:04 PM (f4AGl)

429 What amazes me is that there are still some people here who believe Ted Cruz could win in a general election.

Even with all the evidence that he would be beaten like a baby seal.

Why would someone want to insure a loss?

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