EMT 3/13/16 Snooze button not optional edition. [krakatoa]

3 of my finest hobo trophies for the moron that gets me my hour back.

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1 Can't wait until November 6 to get my hour back
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 05:01 AM (fizMZ)

2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiF-q2h7tSA


David Gilmour is the man.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:01 AM (qUNWi)

3 Happy loss of sleep suckas.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:02 AM (qUNWi)

4 Good morning Skip.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:02 AM (qUNWi)

5 Use the time machine that Ace doesn't have to reclaim that hour?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 05:06 AM (viJS2)

6 Definitive video of the Michelle Fields kerfuffle proves it a complete nothing burger.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gud8t76

Posted by: MC DuQuesne at March 13, 2016 05:07 AM (LbE7d)

7 Howsy horde it's 5 or 6 here. In 30 minutes I'm off to the races.

Posted by: freaked at March 13, 2016 05:08 AM (BO/km)

8 I'm suspecting the Aceofspadeshq clocks will catch up sooner or later but before we get the hour back. But then again I had a watch it couldn't change so had to deal with it being off part of the year.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 05:12 AM (fizMZ)

9 Re: DST

http://tinyurl.com/hyzuhce

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:13 AM (eBsWa)

10 Rubes won the DC primary followed by Kasich

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 05:16 AM (fizMZ)

11 MC DuQuesne @ 6

Thank you.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:17 AM (eBsWa)

12 No news today. Slept too late and besides, its all Trump all the time. I am sick of Trump Trump Trump. The MFM is still blaming the Chicago riot on Trump when it is widely known on the internet that the whole thing was instigated and coordinated by Sanders and Move On.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:21 AM (t2KH5)

13 We lost a hour but we already had an extra day

Posted by: tmitsss at March 13, 2016 05:22 AM (sUvQQ)

14 The stupid announcer on the radio just said "don't forget to set you clocks ahead 1 hour tomorrow".

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:25 AM (t2KH5)

15 And DST is a BS racket that the merchants have paid the politicians to inflict on us. It doesn't save a damn thing and anybody who claims it does is an AGW liar. It provides an extra hour of daylight after work which the stupid merchants think will increase shopping.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:28 AM (t2KH5)

16 "No news today"

Good. We could use a break.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:29 AM (eBsWa)

17 Well, it's nice that the merchants get an extra hour of sales but that extra hour or sunlight is burning my grass.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:30 AM (eBsWa)

18 Hildabeast had to walk back nice comments she made about Nancy Reagan, Hillary is a nasty witch.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 05:30 AM (fizMZ)

19 12 ... Vic, Enjoy a day off from the "news". You are right: there isn't an MFM outlet (including Fox) that isn't lying through its transmitter. I get more timely and accurate info here on Ace. Even if I was a Trump enthusiast, which I'm not, the coverage would be, at best, tiresome.

Hope the weather where you are is front porch and rocking chair pleasant. If I had a porch, I would be on it, puffing a pipe with good Virginia tobacco, a cup of coffee and a good book. At least until the Book Thread begins in a few hours.

Posted by: JTB at March 13, 2016 05:31 AM (FvdPb)

20 And the radio just switched over to Sunday services and it will stay on that until about 4 pm this afternoon so the radio is off.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:32 AM (t2KH5)

21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VHHcd0M_o


Nice morning song.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:34 AM (qUNWi)

22 Yes, I had great front porch weather yesterday which is why no news today. Killed a 1.7L bottle of bourbon.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:36 AM (t2KH5)

23 The Hildebeest praised Nancy and Ronnie for their "outreach" to AIDS victims. Some outreach. It was three years after HIV had been identified before Ron mentioned it.

Do these people ever...EVER...actually listen to what comes out of their own mouths?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:37 AM (eBsWa)

24 DAY 1,223

240 to go (313 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:37 AM (p4UlV)

25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VHHcd0M_o


More ELP.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:37 AM (qUNWi)

26 And speaking of Trump he said the only way to stop these rowdy protestors is to have them arrested and press charges. And he did blame Sanders for them. So I guess he has someone following AoS and Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:38 AM (t2KH5)

27 2
David Gilmour is the man.
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:01 AM (qUNWi)


He feels Jews should be treated more humanely; gas as opposed to shooting. Unlike his sidekick Roger Waters.

To hell with Pink Floyd.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:38 AM (p4UlV)

28 Hey, that "lost hour" brought y'all closer to me for the next few weeks. Have some Starkbier.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 05:38 AM (d1RNN)

29
I'm tired, my kishkes* are still upset and I get to go see my accountant "Stosh" today to do my taxes.

Life is good.

*Yes, fellow babies, I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:39 AM (p4UlV)

30 Morning!

What's everyone doing up so early?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2016 05:40 AM (UpGcq)

31 The Hildebeest praised Nancy and Ronnie for their "outreach" to AIDS victims.

Did she have another stroke? They've been shitting on Reagan for 30 years for his "homophobic" failure to devote the entire federal budget to AIDS. O_o

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 05:40 AM (d1RNN)

32 22 Yes, I had great front porch weather yesterday which is why no news today. Killed a 1.7L bottle of bourbon.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:36 AM (t2KH5)


In honor of Vic, Uriah Heep "Easy Living."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:40 AM (p4UlV)

33 Was hoping whatever is bugging your GI tract would go away, JJ. Good on you for going in tomorrow.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:43 AM (eBsWa)

34 In honor of Vic, Uriah Heep "Easy Living."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:40 AM (p4UlV)


The Band's 'Up On Cripple Creek' might be more drunkenly appropriate.

Posted by: RickZ at March 13, 2016 05:44 AM (7hoqr)

35 Is it safe to assume one of the horde has already linked Chicago's "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" somewhere?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:45 AM (eBsWa)

36 35 Is it safe to assume one of the horde has already linked Chicago's "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" somewhere?
Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 05:45 AM (eBsWa)


Does anybody really care?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:46 AM (p4UlV)

37 20 And the radio just switched over to Sunday services and it will stay on that until about 4 pm this afternoon so the radio is off.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:32 AM (t2KH5)


I distinctly remember the Sunday morning Christian programming on NYC television.

Favorite shows, IIRC was one called "Insight" where A-list actors appeared in modern dramas with religious parables and crises as the themes. Will have to look that one up.

And of course, "Davey and Goliath." LOVED that show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:48 AM (p4UlV)

38 Mornin'. Up early with rotator cuff shoulder post sugery. Tore subscap 3/4 through. Damn nuisance wearing sling all the time, and sleeping in a chair. Fell off a boulder in BVI.

It wouldn't affect Ace if he just left his clock unchanged, would it?

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 05:50 AM (G0t7U)

39 Bitch all you want my shift was an hour shorter

Posted by: NativeNH at March 13, 2016 05:51 AM (dGpO/)

40
Wow: Here's the IMDB listing for "Insight." It ran for 25 seasons (60-84)!!

"American Roman Catholic religious-themed anthology shedding light on the contemporary search for meaning, freedom, and love."

The cast is like a who's who of stars from the 60's and 70's.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053510/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:52 AM (p4UlV)

41 He feels Jews should be treated more humanely; gas as opposed to shooting. Unlike his sidekick Roger Waters.

To hell with Pink Floyd.


Sorry.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:52 AM (qUNWi)

42 It wouldn't affect Ace if he just left his clock unchanged, would it?
Posted by: Hmitchell3rd
...........
Ace has a clock???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2016 05:52 AM (UpGcq)

43 ace is on Endor time baby.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:54 AM (qUNWi)

44 10 >> Rubes won the DC primary followed by Kasich

From another POV, Skip, I'd say that Cruz won the DC primary, followed closely by Trump.

I mean, is DC loaded up with Establishment weenies or what?

*nods head sagely*

Last is the new first, at least in this case.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2016 05:54 AM (gyKtp)

45 Ace has a clock???

Please tell me it's a suitcase nuke.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 05:55 AM (d1RNN)

46 41 Sorry.
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:52 AM (qUNWi)

No problem. Just surprised you're not aware of Pink Floyd's view of Israel and Jews. If you look up their statements and antics, especially Roger Waters, you'll be sick to your stomach.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:55 AM (p4UlV)

47 45 Ace has a clock???

Please tell me it's a suitcase nuke.
Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 05:55 AM (d1RNN)



I'm surprised no one has posted Achmed the Clock Boy and his science fair award winning creation. Since it's Islam, I'll christen (heh) it "The Wayback Machine."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:57 AM (p4UlV)

48 J.J. -- I've got a couple really mice ELP links up there.

You should check em out.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:57 AM (qUNWi)

49 37 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:48 AM (p4UlV)


The local radio station here starts Sunday morning with a show that does gospel songs. Then they switch to a local Baptist church that does an early service. Then the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Then another round of church services. Then more choir stuff. Then finally by about 3:30 in the afternoon they will go back to their normal crap of beach music and old rock. And I hate beach music.


It would not be so bad if we had another station but one horse town has one radio station.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:57 AM (t2KH5)

50 Honestly I just assumed Roger Waters hated everyone's guts and just ignored it.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:58 AM (qUNWi)

51
All you need to know about DC is that, excluding the slums of Anacostia and other black areas, the counties surrounding it are among the most well to do in the nation. Even in the midst of Depression 2.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:58 AM (p4UlV)

52 I saw the Wall live in London and was a big Pink Floyd fan, but I'm done with them.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (fizMZ)

53 The mice will see you now.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (qUNWi)

54 49 It would not be so bad if we had another station but one horse town has one radio station.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:57 AM (t2KH5)

That's what CD's and internet radio are for.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (p4UlV)

55 Beach music? Is that like the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean?

I could never stand that music growing up..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (UpGcq)

56 Night Morning all

Here is "Let's Rock" by Heather Leather:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tKuyvCqX3Q

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 13, 2016 06:00 AM (vBeA5)

57 54 That's what CD's and internet radio are for.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (p4UlV)

I tried Internet radio a few times but with my shitty bandwidth it bogs down. Also slows my ancient computer down to a crawl.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:01 AM (t2KH5)

58 55 Beach music? Is that like the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean?

I could never stand that music growing up..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (UpGcq)


One of my favorite one hit wonders (if you could even call it that since I only knew of it when I was music director at WBCR Brooklyn College Radio) was a tune called "There's No Surf in Cleveland" by the Euclid Beach Band. If you hate Jan and Dean and the Beach Boys, then ignore it, but they pull off a pretty good send up of that sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHnBYZwP94

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 06:02 AM (p4UlV)

59 I assume everyone in the entertainment industry is loathsome to some degree.


I'm not going to listen to country music. Not happenin.


Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:02 AM (qUNWi)

60 55
Beach music? Is that like the Beach Boys and Jan Dean?



I could never stand that music growing up..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2016 05:59 AM (UpGcq)

Some people around here call it Carolina Shag music.


Here is a list that claims to be the top 100

http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songs-beach.html

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:04 AM (t2KH5)

61 59 I assume everyone in the entertainment industry is loathsome to some degree.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:02 AM (qUNWi)


And a bright good morning to you too!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 06:04 AM (p4UlV)

62 And a bright good morning to you too!

And to you sir!

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:05 AM (qUNWi)

63 59 I'm not going to listen to country music. Not happenin.







Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:02 AM (qUNWi)

We have not had real country music since the early 60s. It's all rock now, just a slower flavor.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)

64 62 And a bright good morning to you too!

And to you sir!
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:05 AM (qUNWi)


My former boss who is a two time Academy Award winner once said, "a friend in this business is someone who stabs you in the heart."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 06:06 AM (p4UlV)

65 What I can't figure out is why Cruz demolished the field in Wyoming.

Anyone have, or read, any good theories on this?

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2016 06:06 AM (gyKtp)

66 Even in the midst of Depression 2.

I would say especially in Depression 2. Keeping the serfs down comes with a pretty good pay packet.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 06:07 AM (d1RNN)

67 It's all rock now, just a slower flavor.

That crap's not rock. It's bubblegum with belt buckles.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 13, 2016 06:08 AM (d1RNN)

68 I would say especially in Depression 2. Keeping the serfs down comes with a pretty good pay packet.

With lots of holidays. I think gov workers get Burlap Day off.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:09 AM (qUNWi)

69 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:04 AM (t2KH5)

Excuse me? "100 Greatest Beach Music Songs" and nothing by Jimmy Buffet?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:13 AM (eBsWa)

70 This PJ Media piece by Richard Fernandez provides some interesting analysis of the 2016 election, without taking any sides:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/03/12/recon-by-fire/

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2016 06:13 AM (gyKtp)

71 "What I can't figure out is why Cruz demolished the field in Wyoming."

Guns, maybe? I've heard Trump waffle on gun legislation but never Cruz.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:18 AM (eBsWa)

72 69 Excuse me? "100 Greatest Beach Music Songs" and nothing by Jimmy Buffet?
Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:13 AM (eBsWa)


I hate Jimmy Buffett. Feh. But for you he's terrific!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 06:18 AM (p4UlV)

73 I'll still listen to Pink Floyd from time to time. Waters is a douche. Didn't know much about Gilmore's views and didn't really want too. He's a great guitarist, not a deep thinker. I still love Dr. Zhivago inspite of Julie Christie's loony leftist views. I would certainly go back in time and bang a mid 60s era Christie. Damn she was a hottie back then.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 13, 2016 06:20 AM (XKKFy)

74 Aw, JJ. You insulted me. I'm not all that wild about Buffet, though "Come Monday" oughta be on someone's Top 100 list.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:21 AM (eBsWa)

75 Excuse me? "100 Greatest Beach Music Songs" and nothing by Jimmy Buffet?


Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:13 AM (eBsWa)

Jimmy Buffet is not "Beach Music". He is Island Music and really has his own category. In his early days they called him country music.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:25 AM (t2KH5)

76 71 "What I can't figure out is why Cruz demolished the field in Wyoming."

I can't imagine Trump's personality resonating in cowboy country. NYC vs. Texas.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:25 AM (G0t7U)

77 My former boss who is a two time Academy Award winner once said, "a friend in this business is someone who stabs you in the heart."

Probably why sho biz marriages last 15 minutes.

All the friendly heart stabbing.

Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:26 AM (qUNWi)

78 Vic, I am in NC. I knoe Beach Music, but no one o/s the South gets it. My poor Nicaraguan wife can't wrap her head around it. Sort of Motown meets white Southerner. Some of it is quite good. Saw Chairman of the Board several times during college.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:29 AM (G0t7U)

79 {pops Buffet CD out of the player and trudges off, thoroughly chastened}

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:30 AM (eBsWa)

80 I'm surprised no one has posted Achmed the Clock Boy and his science fair award winning creation. Since it's Islam, I'll christen (heh) it "The Wayback Machine."


...........................

Brad Thor had a post of FB yesterday reminding everyone to set their bombs ahead one hour

Posted by: Molly k. at March 13, 2016 06:30 AM (4aaDj)

81 Saw and commented on this last night
LegalInsurrection story on two Wounded Warrior exec were fired

The best thing is to cut it off immediately with consequences.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 06:31 AM (fizMZ)

82 Cruz had 644 votes total in all of Wyoming, a state of over half a million people. It seems to be a closed caucus of party insiders. The higher the percentage of a states population is actually involved in voting the better Trump does.

Posted by: MC DuQuesne at March 13, 2016 06:34 AM (LbE7d)

83 Re: Beach Music
I once won a contest shagging* in the snow

*The Shag is one of two South Carolina Official State Dances
and is done to beach music

Posted by: tmitsss at March 13, 2016 06:35 AM (sUvQQ)

84 82 Cruz had 644 votes total in all of Wyoming

Yeah, but I thought The Establishment loathed Cruz.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:36 AM (G0t7U)

85 78
Vic, I am in NC. I knoe Beach Music, but no one o/s the South gets it.
My poor Nicaraguan wife can't wrap her head around it. Sort of Motown
meets white Southerner. Some of it is quite good. Saw Chairman of the
Board several times during college.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:29 AM (G0t7U)

The story is that it got the name Beach Music because it originated as dance music at Myrtle Beach for the "shag" which was popular back many years ago. They still have shag clubs around here but it is almost all old geezers like me.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

86 In England, you can't tell people you "shag." Talk about failure to translate.

Shagging is sort of a drunk box step with one hand, I think. But I am a horrible dancer. Had to marry a latina for the extra help.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:40 AM (G0t7U)

87 There was a Jimmy Buffet themed casino in Biloxi, Margaritaville, that lasted a couple of years before going belly up last year.

Their business plan was to make hay off of the large ParrotHead contingent in the South, I guess. Charging $12 for a margarita in a casino where casino drinks are usually free everywhere else is NOT a sustainable business plan. They also started out with no player rewards program, a mistake they tried to fix several months after opening.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2016 06:41 AM (gyKtp)

88 The Embers I Love Beach Music
I love beach music
I always have and I always will
There ain't no other kind of music in the world that gives me quite the thrill
When I hear...
60 minute man, and walkin' up the one-way street
He's up on the roof, he's under the boardwalk
Summertime's a-callin' me
Ooh
Bom bom bom, bom bom bom wee-ooh, beach music
Bom bom bom, bom bom bom wee-ooh, beach music

I love beach music
'Cause born with it in my bones
I learned to s___ on the beach, with the salt in the air, and the sand at my feet
Yeah, yeah

Oh, oh, oh Ms. Grace
39-21-46
What kind of fool do you think I am
When forever, and ever, it will stand, yes

I love beach music
Every single day of my life
I love beach music,
You know that I do

Doo doo, doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, doo doo
Doo doo, doo doo doo, doo doo doo

Posted by: tmitsss at March 13, 2016 06:41 AM (sUvQQ)

89 Lol s___ = shag

Posted by: tmitsss at March 13, 2016 06:43 AM (sUvQQ)

90 Old geezers enjoyed it in the '80's when I was coming of age. But it was popular with the college/20's set back then. Sort of a nice, sweet time, dancing with your girl, having fun.

No shuffling around texting, like zombies back then. Nostalgic [sniff, sniff, HONK].

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:44 AM (G0t7U)

91 The Shag is more jitterbug on Qualudes

Posted by: tmitsss at March 13, 2016 06:44 AM (sUvQQ)

92 Hmitchell3r, Seems the Wyoming establishment has mostly gone full #NeverTrump.

Posted by: MC DuQuesne at March 13, 2016 06:45 AM (LbE7d)

93 I would rather have the light at the end of the day anyway so whatever , time change. Not having to finish grilling under a light or being able to finish up an outside project with the extra hour is cool. That's when it feels like old man winter finally shit the bed to me.

Posted by: jsg at March 13, 2016 06:48 AM (T1GDk)

94 tmitsss

All of us Three. Southerners know that song!

I am 53 but have 9 ans 7 year old--i loaded a usb with some beach music and tried to get their interest. "Ooh Daddy, what is THAT? Try the next song please."

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:48 AM (G0t7U)

95 I think I still have a beach boys vinyl album. Along with some other oldies but goodies.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2016 06:52 AM (PgvAp)

96 The Shag

http://tinyurl.com/j98xxtc

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:55 AM (eBsWa)

97 Infidel

The vinyl might be worth something. I downloaded recently from amazon. Everything is Tuesday, Carolina Girls (Best in the World), I'm Just Thinkin' 'Bout Coolin' Out, You Got Me Dangling on a String.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:56 AM (G0t7U)

98 Can we rename this thread--Beach Music Thread?

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 06:57 AM (G0t7U)

99 No one knows what it's like.
To be the bad man.
To be the sad man.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at March 13, 2016 06:58 AM (B0X2V)

100 Never got beach music, don't mind it on occasion. If I bras to categorize music I would put Buffet in a sub category of beach music.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:03 AM (fizMZ)

101 https://youtu.be/LgFJJ77w2nA

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:03 AM (viJS2)

102 Ah, Joe. I'm making meatballs and lasagna. I have extra to cheer you up.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2016 07:04 AM (PgvAp)

103 Skip, that is not correct. Like Vic said, Buffet is more island music, Beach Music is a subset of southern pop, I guess.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 07:05 AM (G0t7U)

104 It looks like some of the major names in blog writing are starting to recognize exactly what happens when a political rally gets shut down by Civil Rights deniers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:06 AM (ptqRm)

105 After Bernie's refusal to to repudiate those who shutdown Trump's rally,
no Republican should be force to repudiate anybody ever again .. and
should cite Bernie as the example.

Posted by: Hoss Cartwright at March 13, 2016 07:06 AM (e8kgV)

106 Hoss, you were always my favorite!

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2016 07:08 AM (PgvAp)

107 Here's your damn hour. And I want the bottle back when you're done with it.

Posted by: zombie Jim Croce at March 13, 2016 07:09 AM (NeFrd)

108 Looked at the link regarding Michelle Fields.

Wow !!! She really cleans up nice. Trying to keep it clean - being Sunday and all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:10 AM (qmMG2)

109 This does not bode well and I can't remember if we talked about it in the ONT.

Next Star Trek movie Beyond is re-shooting scenes. And they have brought in the Dragon Queen from The Expanse to help with the new efforts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:14 AM (viJS2)

110 Yeah, Thanks for the link to the Fields story. Nothing burger it is.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 13, 2016 07:15 AM (WVsWD)

111 To hell with Pink Floyd.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 05:38 AM (p4UlV)

Yup.....boring songs about how terrible life is especially for over wrought English utes of the 50's and 60's from that horrible place called being middle class.

Pink Floyd is narcissist crap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2016 07:15 AM (ej1L0)

112 #GrabGate Debunked - Michelle Fields Cries Wolf. NEW ANGLE PROVES SHES LYING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NoMPxomjiw
Time for Ace to apologize to Mr Trump.




Posted by: Da Judge at March 13, 2016 07:16 AM (rREgU)

113 "At this point I will explain how bacon may be eaten to the best effect... if it has been simply roasted in the same way as a joint of meat, the fat drains into the fire and the bacon becomes dry, and whoever eats it is harmed and not benefited; it also produces bad humors and causes indigestion. But if bacon that has been boiled and cooled is eaten, it is more beneficial... As for raw bacon which, so I hear, the Franks have a habit of eating... they are healthier than other people because of this food. Let me give a good example so that what I am writing may be believed: thick bacon, placed for a long time on all wounds, be they external or internal or caused by a blow, both cleanses any putrefaction and aids healing. Look at what power there is in raw bacon, and see how the Franks heal what doctors try to cure with drugs or with potions."

Anthimus, On the Observance of Foods (c. 511-534)

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2016 07:16 AM (Cq0oW)

114 Good morning.

From this date in 1944 - Anzio, Italy

Mar 13, 1944 The EZ Dog Journal
Once again swung into plans for a push. Finally developed that the south front is to be coordinated with this and weather is too bad down there. Front fairly quiet. Patrols active. 56 Div made a local attack night 13/14. It was a success except for one house.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2016 07:17 AM (NeFrd)

115 Oh I disagree. Ms. Fields is most definitely a Something-Burger. I'd white-knight for her too.

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:18 AM (qmMG2)

116 *blinks at YouTube*

Over a million views on why not to put an iPad Air 2 in the oven?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrox. No I'm not clicking on that.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:18 AM (viJS2)

117 Raw bacon. Yum.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 07:18 AM (eBsWa)

118 No news today. Slept too late and besides, its all Trump all the time. I am sick of Trump Trump Trump. The MFM is still blaming the Chicago riot on Trump when it is widely known on the internet that the whole thing was instigated and coordinated by Sanders and Move On.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:21 AM (t2KH5)

Thank you, Vic.
Sometimes, no news is good news.

Posted by: antisocialist at March 13, 2016 07:18 AM (9n14Y)

119 Officer! I wish to report a theft!
In the dead of night, some miscreant has crept into my home and absconded with an hour of my time!

Posted by: @votermom at March 13, 2016 07:19 AM (cbfNE)

120 its good for your humors, creeper.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2016 07:19 AM (Cq0oW)

121 111 Pink Floyd is narcissist crap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2016 07:15 AM (ej1L0)


Come for the self-loathing narcissism. Stay for the Jew-baiting.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 07:19 AM (p4UlV)

122 It was a success except for one house.

Seamus, I wonder what happened at that one house.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:20 AM (viJS2)

123 74 Aw, JJ. You insulted me. I'm not all that wild about Buffet, though "Come Monday" oughta be on someone's Top 100 list.
Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 06:21 AM (eBsWa)


No disrespect. But I'm not a fan. And his politics ain't gonna do much to win me over either.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 07:20 AM (p4UlV)

124 Come for the self-loathing narcissism. Stay for the Jew-baiting.

I often marvel at your self-restraint JJ. If I had your powers, I'd shape-shift into a grizzly bear and kick some tail.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:21 AM (qmMG2)

125 *waves to Voter Mom*

Can you describe the miscreant?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:21 AM (viJS2)

126 Your right, I guess to me anything from near water kind of music should be put together.
So island and reggae go together?

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:21 AM (fizMZ)

127 That one hour lost is almost like paying taxes, it's for the good of the public or something.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:23 AM (fizMZ)

128 Skip, that is not correct. Like Vic said, Buffet is more island music, Beach Music is a subset of southern pop, I guess.
Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 07:05 AM (G0t7U)

Beach music is more like '50's R&B, only with far less imagination. I live like 20 minutes from the beach and on Sundays the radio positively oozes the stuff.

Posted by: antisocialist at March 13, 2016 07:24 AM (9n14Y)

129 Normally, I'm a yuuge fan of the Hot Librarian look.

But after much consideration, I think Ms. Fields should just go all bimbo, all the time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:25 AM (qmMG2)

130 "That one hour lost is almost like paying taxes,"

Declare yourself a "sovereign time zonist" That'll show the man.....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 13, 2016 07:26 AM (WVsWD)

131 I have always liked figuring out lyrics and what they are supposed to mean. Not even song but something peaks my interest and then I want to break it down.
But have come to the conclusion most song writers are screwed in the head leftists.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:26 AM (fizMZ)

132 http://www.treknews.net/2016/03/11/star-trek-beyond-shohreh-aghdashloo/

Look at the comment from OphidianJaguar. Total Soviet Justice Wanker trying to pretend to be a fan of Star Trek.

And failing miserably because not a single mention of Persis Khambatta.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:26 AM (viJS2)

133 Bernie seems to have a degree of political sophistication which belies his scruffy old harmless dude persona.

And I would assume that every Communist or Socialist government on the planet would be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of a Socialist President in the White House.

Is there any indication of support or coordination with any State level actors from outside the United States?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:28 AM (ptqRm)

134 are all the people demanding a trump apology going to apologize or double down? like I don't know.

Posted by: x at March 13, 2016 07:28 AM (nFwvY)

135 No disrespect. But I'm not a fan. And his politics ain't gonna do much to win me over either.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2016 07:20 AM (p4UlV)

Buffet plays that role of selling to fat, bald, old men the idea they can spend their remaining days soaking up the surf and sand and margaritas and pretty girls by being parrot heads.
But they can't because they are fat, bald, old men and they ain't Jimmy Buffet nor have his wallet.
John Prine is much better.
Both libs though.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2016 07:29 AM (ej1L0)

136 107
Here's your damn hour. And I want the bottle back when you're done with it.

Posted by: zombie Jim Croce at March 13, 2016 07:09 AM (NeFrd)
Nominating this for sock winner.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2016 07:29 AM (eBsWa)

137 Dammit. Gets me every year.

Posted by: Roy Munson at March 13, 2016 07:29 AM (T1GDk)

138 Re: DST Always thought it was so the children had more time to help with the agriculture after school. Which kind of morphed into more time for sports practice after school.

Me, I like having that hour to try to get stuff done outside after work. Less crap to try to pack into the weekend.

Posted by: random lurker at March 13, 2016 07:29 AM (xTAPL)

139 127 That one hour lost is almost like paying taxes, it's for the good of the public or something.

Great. Next comes the Graduated Time Tax.

47% of the country get's time back. I owe three hours that I really can't afford to lose. Tried to save a minute here and a minute there to pay for it. Wasn't enough.

jwest knows a sharp accountant that works the system to keep most of his. Did the guy a solid during his time as HOA president.

moo moo gives back a week and a half, and never even notices. Dude has so much time he doesn't know what to do with it all anyway.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:30 AM (qmMG2)

140 "on Sundays the radio positively oozes the stuff."

Put the radio on a paper towel, and wipe real good.

It will draw ants overnight if you don't.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:30 AM (ptqRm)

141 133 And I would assume that every Communist or Socialist
government on the planet would be rubbing their hands with glee at the
prospect of a Socialist President in the White House.



Is there any indication of support or coordination with any State level actors from outside the United States?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:28 AM (ptqRm)

We already have a socialist/communist in the WH.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 07:31 AM (t2KH5)

142 Whatever happened at the Trump rally the other night will happen again many times over in the very near future.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:31 AM (fizMZ)

143 Skip you are sadly true.

The leaders of the agitators will keep pushing until there is a backlash, get a bunch of pawns wounded and killed, and still blame the victim.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:33 AM (viJS2)

144 Thanks ScoggDog. You just created the Internal Time Service. They have their own SWAT Team too?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 13, 2016 07:33 AM (WVsWD)

145 President Obama expected to grant more clemencies to federal prisoners in coming weeks




Why not just empty all of the prisons? I'm sure most of them are only in there because of racism.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2016 07:33 AM (45oDG)

146 "Whatever happened at the Trump rally the other night will happen again many times over in the very near future."
I disagree slightly.

I would expect that by about the fourth event, it will be open warfare at the city where the rally is to take place.

Genie...Bottle.
Reassembly will be difficult.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:35 AM (ptqRm)

147 18 Hildabeast had to walk back nice comments she made about Nancy Reagan, Hillary is a nasty witch.

Posted by: Skip

Hillary should have explained that lying is just she what she does when coffins are around.

Posted by: Benghazi Families at March 13, 2016 07:35 AM (A79/B)

148 142 And if people thing it wont happen to Cruz because he doesn't have the same "tone",they are much mistaken.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:36 AM (B48dK)

149 The leaders of the agitators will keep pushing until there is a backlash, get a bunch of pawns wounded and killed, and still blame the victim.

Skip, Anna - I think you're both on it.

I know I sound like a broken record, with my constant referencing 1930s Germany (assuming anyone noticed) - but it's the closest analogy I can find.

On one hand, I don't think Hitler pulls that shit off against an armed population with 2016 Rural American attitude.

On the other hand, I don't think Rural America survives a Hitler at the helm of 2016 Federal Government.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:37 AM (qmMG2)

150 147 Funny,usually the only conservative figures the left is allowed to praise in any way are the dead ones.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:37 AM (B48dK)

151 142 And if people thing it wont happen to Cruz because he doesn't have the same "tone",they are much mistaken.
Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:36 AM (B48dK)

Yup. It's not the tone, it's the content. And the fact that libs have fed the radical "me! me! me!" monster for decades. They can't stand it when someone or something else takes center stage. Like truth. Or the Constitution.

Posted by: antisocialist at March 13, 2016 07:39 AM (9n14Y)

152 I wonder what happened at that one house.


****

Yeah, not any details provided. My understanding is that there was a lot of little back and forth battles in the No Man's Land at Anzio, focusing on this or that farmhouse or cluster of buildings. I think there are some mentions of the artillery concentrating fire on one particular building to preclude the enemy using it as observation post or whatever. I assume that he was referring to one particular house that the 56th failed to capture during that night raid.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2016 07:40 AM (NeFrd)

153 c.f. The Factory at Carroceto

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2016 07:41 AM (NeFrd)

154 138
Re: DST Always thought it was so the children had more time to help
with the agriculture after school. Which kind of morphed into more time
for sports practice after school.



Me, I like having that hour to try to get stuff done outside after work. Less crap to try to pack into the weekend.

Posted by: random lurker at March 13, 2016 07:29 AM (xTAPL)

Back in the old days in the South they simply shut the schools down during harvest season. There was no DST. And farmers have always opposed DST because it hampers farming schedules. DST has always been a tool of the buisness community. And some States do not observe it.


There has been only one study that said DST saved energy. And it was debunked almost immediately. Most energy experts say that it saves nothing. It only trades energy use between morning and night.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 07:42 AM (t2KH5)

155 Good Morning Hordelings! Sunday morning praise and worship for March 13th.


I have to say. I did not know Terry Bradshaw could sing. Yes, THAT Terry Bradshaw. Here he is with the Gospel group, the Isaacs, singing that wonderful old hymn "What a Day, Glorious Day That Will Be."

Take a listen. There's a bit of chit chat at the start, but not much. Then he really gets into the spirit of the song, with quite a nice voice.


bit.ly/1LZm3Ca


What a day that will be
When my Jesus I shall see!
And I look upon His face -
The One who saved me by His grace.
When He takes me by the hand
And leads me through the Promised Land-
What a day, glorious day, that will be!

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 13, 2016 07:43 AM (dFi94)

156 Vic, Thanks for enlightening me. Even still, prefer the light at the end of the day.

Posted by: random lurker at March 13, 2016 07:46 AM (xTAPL)

157 "On the other hand, I don't think Rural America survives a Hitler at the helm of 2016 Federal Government."

Roughly 1.5 million Active Duty military.

In the meanwhile, for ten years, individuals have gone into active service, trained, fought and then transitioned back into civilian life.

Estimates of several years about put civilian ownership of firearms at

114 million handguns
110 million rifles
and 86 million shotguns.

Not saying who I believe would win, but if even 90% of the civilian firearms are NOT used, at the urban level, that is an interesting ratio.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:48 AM (ptqRm)

158 It was just starting to get light when I start work, now it's dark again and as I wrote last night by the summer solstice I'll be trying to go to sleep and it will be full daylight time.
I have done some driving with little sleep, leaving on a trip at 0 dark thirty and all but fighting to stay awake. But about 1 hour after sunrise I'm as awake and bright as a chipper.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:50 AM (fizMZ)

159 And I see that Rubio is acting as the Uniter.


http://tinyurl.com/zcezssn

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:50 AM (ptqRm)

160 Carroceto? Fascist concrete?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 07:51 AM (viJS2)

161 Skip

Yeah, I see your point re island music. Reggae is island. Beach is more Myrtle Beach. Like was said above, sort of R & B sounds right.

Posted by: Hmitchell3rd at March 13, 2016 07:51 AM (G0t7U)

162 "I know I sound like a broken record, with my constant referencing 1930s Germany (assuming anyone noticed) - but it's the closest analogy I can find."

ScoggDog, check out a little Chile history circa 1964 to 1973.

I think it's a better analogy because Chile enjoyed a long, relatively stable electoral democracy until the leftist agitation, violence, and finally armed revolution and counter revolution destroyed it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2016 07:51 AM (EZebt)

163 I get online occasion with people from other countries and one thing constantly is they have no concept of the 2nd A.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 07:52 AM (fizMZ)

164 Not saying who I believe would win, but if even 90% of the civilian firearms are NOT used, at the urban level, that is an interesting ratio.

The trick - so to speak - would be to keep those massive numbers isolated and divided.

How would I do that ? Hmmm ... maybe by controlling public means of communication ? You know - what would REALLY be effective - would be a mutual enemy that a leader could exploit. Maybe even use as justification for increased domestic surveillance and policing.

Far-fetched, right ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:52 AM (qmMG2)

165 And if people thing it wont happen to Cruz because he doesn't have the same "tone",they are much mistaken.
Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:36 AM (B48dK)

Yup. It's not the tone, it's the content. And the fact that libs have fed the radical "me! me! me!" monster for decades. They can't stand it when someone or something else takes center stage. Like truth. Or the Constitution.

Posted by: antisocialist at March 13, 2016 07:39 AM (9n14Y)



The left is going to try to use these turds to shut down any opposition. Soros, Barry, etc. are all behind this and will use the power of the government to support them or not stop them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2016 07:53 AM (45oDG)

166 163 In my experience many of them think the Grand Theft Auto games reflect reality in America.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:54 AM (B48dK)

167 ScoggDog, check out a little Chile history circa 1964 to 1973.

Sounds like a little sick reading today. Ain't going to do anything else. Thanks !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 07:54 AM (qmMG2)

168 "Maybe even use as justification for increased domestic surveillance and policing. "

That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Stingray Technologies, Inc. at March 13, 2016 07:54 AM (ptqRm)

169 For those of you struggling with DST this morning I have no sympathy. I made the switch to Howdy Doody Time years ago.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 13, 2016 07:55 AM (Zd3Kw)

170 Ja! Now your sprechen!


Posted by: Der Ubertrumpen, admiring the Chicom's iron fist at March 13, 2016 07:57 AM (bGLSw)

171 So right after the April unpleasantness here in B'More, I remember reading about unlisted small craft surveillance flights over the city during the nights when the Urban Outlet Shopping craze took over.
And the stories trickling out about the city admitting to using Stingray technologies without a warrant to track and surveil individuals.


Tinfoil....
It's not just for crazy people any more.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 07:58 AM (ptqRm)

172 Weird: The clock on the mantle, which has not been adjusted for Government Interference Time, shows that sunrise occurred at pretty much the same time as yesterday. No time was actually saved or lost. How can that be?

Morning, y'all. Coffee's ready.

Posted by: mindful webworker - confused, but not as much as Hillary at March 13, 2016 07:58 AM (l/Pix)

173 In my experience many of them think the Grand Theft Auto games reflect reality in America.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2016 07:54 AM (B48dK)



Well if they see the goings on of the south side of Chicago

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2016 07:59 AM (45oDG)

174 The clock on the wall here says three o'clock. Last call ... for alcohol.

Posted by: George T at March 13, 2016 08:00 AM (qmMG2)

175 165 Your point is perfectly made.

And Ace putting forth that bucket of shit last night implying that Trump 'had it coming was, to put it mildly, disappointing.

The special , radical, snowflakes populating our universities and the left in general will tolerate NO opposition to their lying, deceitful, left wing
ideas'(Propaganda).

The right either defends all their candidates or they can quit now-with no hope of winning anything nationally.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 13, 2016 08:02 AM (AV4JD)

176 Before GTA there was Sonoda Kenichi with Riding Bean and later Gunsmith Cats in Chicago.

https://youtu.be/BuRtPDqMl6I?t=21s

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2016 08:03 AM (viJS2)

177 nood book

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 13, 2016 08:05 AM (pTGWu)

178 Anna ... I'd love to check that link. Really would.

But if you stare into the abyss ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2016 08:06 AM (qmMG2)

179 I'm a Cruz supporter, but have been very bummed that he and the other candidates are colluding with the left by blaming the victim of political violence. Nothing Trump has said justifies attacking a political rally. This is the road to perdition.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2016 08:08 AM (EZebt)

180 g'mornin Horde.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 13, 2016 08:08 AM (Z8DIA)

181 I'm a Cruz supporter, but have been very bummed that he and the other candidates are colluding with the left by blaming the victim of political violence. Nothing Trump has said justifies attacking a political rally. This is the road to perdition.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2016 08:08 AM (EZebt)



I agree. They need to keep their power dry on things like this because that mob will turn on them in a second.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2016 08:09 AM (45oDG)

182 63 59 I'm not going to listen to country music. Not happenin. Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2016 06:02 AM (qUNWi)

You know why all country songs sound the same now? It's because they are all the fucking same now.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 08:11 AM (Dttnn)

183 J.J. Sefton: ...when I was music director at WBCR Brooklyn College Radio)...

What th...? I DJ'd and news directed at WBCR - Beloit College Radio. 88.1FM - where you sometimes come across as TV channel 6 audio! Once an experimental early station ("since 1907"), heard as far away as New Mexico, but reduced in my day to a mighty 25 watts. "With a good Northern wind, could be heard in Rockford!"
https://www.beloit.edu/wbcr/

I'd always thought call letters were supposed to be unique. Yet a quick search also turns up

WBCR Truth Radio 1470 - Blount County Tennessee
WBCR-LP 97.7FM Community Radio in the Berkshires
WBCR AM Brooklyn College Radio
and...
Western Border Collie Rescue

Posted by: mindful webworker - Beatles and Beethoven at March 13, 2016 08:17 AM (l/Pix)

184 So the Left is pretty much in agreement that if Trump's daughter is dressed like that, talks like that, dances like that and has "That look", she deserves what she gets when she leaves the Club?


Good to know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 08:18 AM (ptqRm)

185 I can see clearly now the rain is gone ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 13, 2016 08:19 AM (rwI+c)

186 I read a Bambi quote somewhere yesterday--something like "All these divisions among people certainly aren't attributable to me."

I'm writing in George Orwell on Nov 6.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 08:23 AM (Dttnn)

187 So basically Sanders supporters are the Happy Fun ball of society?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2016 08:25 AM (ptqRm)

188

Time for Ace to apologize to Mr Trump.






Posted by: Da Judge at March 13, 2016 07:16 AM (rREgU)

No no. It's fake....but accurate.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 13, 2016 08:29 AM (0IhFx)

189
its all Trump all the time. I am sick of Trump Trump Trump.
Posted by: Vic-




"Well, there's Trump egg sausage and Trump, That's not got much Trump in it."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 08:40 AM (kdS6q)

190
Ace putting forth that bucket of shit last night implying that Trump 'had it coming was, to put it mildly, disappointing.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided




Once you label your opponent and his followers "Fascists", attacking them by any means necessary becomes not only allowable, but a moral imperative.

Which is kinda of idea of labeling them a "Fascist" in the first place.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 08:46 AM (kdS6q)

191 I didn't read Ace's post as justifying the lefty violence against Trump in any way.

He pointed out, correctly in my view, that Trump has made some impolitic, authoritarian-sounding statements.

You can fully support Trump without pretending he's incapable of error.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 08:50 AM (Dttnn)

192 Hey! What happened to that hour?

It was here last night. It must have rolled under the couch or something.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2016 08:58 AM (sdi6R)

193 Alex Jones at Infowars has tied the BLM protesters to Hillary as a way for her to discredit both Bernie and Trump. But he says she is using Soros money as she is too cheap to use her own! Along that line I regret having sent money to Romney during the last election. He has and had more money than I. What was I thinking? Link in nic to Infowars if anybody is interested!

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 13, 2016 09:10 AM (BI43k)

194 This thread is dead, so I'll just ramble...

I went back and skimmed the thread from yesterday to see what I missed. Ace was in one of his moods, so I'm glad I was away.

The first observation was that Ace did recognize that Cruz, Rubio and predictably Kasich all lacked the basic political instincts to immediately know the correct position on Trump's Chicago rally.

What does is say about a potential nominee who is so fucking clueless, so devoid of instinctual reactions that when given the situation in Chicago they come out 180 degrees from the correct and popular position? How can anyone who cares about the country entrust the leadership to someone who fails such a basic test of logic, reason and courage?

Sure, given a few days and talks with advisors (who should have been smart enough to figure this out as events unfolded), Cruz eventually tried to backpedal to an acceptable position. But that's not how the world works in real time. Presidents are called on to know how to handle situations immediately.

People who are true leaders have the talent to know what is correct. Posers don't. Situations like this help us tell who is which.

With this evidence, only the most rabid, blind-to-any-facts Cruz supporters would continue on in their quest to push him to the nomination. While flailing for a reason to back their obviously unqualified choice, they look to tear down the popular candidate.

By making him scary.

Ace is now trying equate Trump to a facist. He argues that statements by Trump that favor a "strong" leader and government mean that he wants an oppressive, authoritarian government.

For some reason that I can't understand, Ace sees Trump as someone who has been longing and plotting to capture government power for decades. Even though this is basically the main theme of the Clinton family, somehow Trump fits the casting in Ace's narrative.

I, on the other hand, see Trump as someone who is fed up like I am at the sheer incompetence and indifference of the government, and as someone who sees himself as a person with the talent to fix it.

Over the course of the this primary and the past elections we have all witnessed the many iterations the press, democrats and GOP elite go through to destroy people who threaten the status quo.

They start with ridicule, accusations, disclosures and whatever they can throw on the wall to see if it will stick. When one thing doesn't work, they move to another. Eventually, they find something for those prone to suggestion to glob onto.

Hey, doesn't that support pledge look like a Nazi salute? You bet.

As with all struggles of this sort, it doesn't matter what the opposition says about you. The only thing that causes permanent damage is when people on your own side start saying the same things.

We don't have anyone backing us up in that sense.

The people who write for the right believe much of what the left thinks. Without thinking, their basic worldview has been shaped by their environment and fundamental "truths" that everyone in their sphere takes as settled science.

Certainly republicans are racist. If they weren't wouldn't they be democrats?

Is there a right wing writer in New York or DC who doesn't believe this, deep down?

Time for more coffee...

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 09:31 AM (Zs4uk)

195 Certainly republicans are racist.
Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 09:31 AM (Zs4uk)
-------------------------

I look forward to the day when people who think this way are considered as loony as Scientologists. I also believe it can be done.

Posted by: iforgot at March 13, 2016 09:40 AM (5o5ek)

196 Nice, Jwest
I support Trump, and did not like having Ace try to equate Trump and. Fascist, but I attributed it to Ace living in NYC while I live in flyover country ( Michigan), but a part of Micigan that is aware of what democrat rule does. Flint Michigan and their water problems is a good example. I live in a suburb of Detroit ( Birmingham) and all of the suburbs have had to pick up the slack in the water departments budget due to Detroit residents refusing to pay their water bills. And Detroit is ruled by democrats, as is Flint. And eventually the damage they do is impossible to hide any longer.

In my nic is a link to a good pro Trump blog.

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 13, 2016 09:49 AM (eF4+l)

197 Nice post jwest.
I came late to that thread. Read the comments a ways and had to stop.
Ace has always supported establishment politics.
He still is (see Cruz) while he buffs and puffs against it.
Also see his friendship with/ defense of Gollum for another glimpse into who he really is.

Posted by: teej at March 13, 2016 09:52 AM (Jvty4)

198 Righties now trying to deny individuals the right to legal counsel by claiming it's an incitement to violence, tell me again who the authoritians are https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/709003720269434880

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:02 AM (yos+4)

199 Up thread there are some posts about Cruz "winning" Wyoming and how Drudge has nothing on his newspage because Trump didn't win it.

I brought this up yesterday and even Fox news has managed to catch up to what went on in Wyoming yesterday.

There has been no winner declared in Wyoming because no one has won it yet. Wyoming held a caucus yesterday to elect COUNTY delegates, who will in turn go to the state convention to represent their county constituents directives of who they want as a presidential candidate. On April 16, Wyoming will once again hold another caucus, this time for the actual State delegates who will go to the National convention to represent Wyoming. This is where trying to figure out how the county delegates enter in the picture is almost impossible from the information I've been able to find online. Somehow the county delegates will influence the not yet elected State delegates.

Cruz received the most caucus votes yesterday for county delegates. But he has not "won" Wyoming yet, as Wyoming has not completed it's primary caucus.

So this is why there is not a declared "winner" on Drudge or other news sites.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:09 AM (rKNmI)

200 And speaking of Trump he said the only way to stop
these rowdy protestors is to have them arrested and press charges. And
he did blame Sanders for them. So I guess he has someone following AoS
and Weasel Zippers.


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 05:38 AM (t2KH5)


And again I ask, arrested for what? Publicly giving Trump shit at a public event open to the public?

Unless the protesters themselves got violent or snuck into a ticketed event without a ticket, they have done nothing illegal that he can have them arrested for cause being an annoying and loud asshole IS NOT ILLEGAL. Now once they are asked to leave by an employee of the venue, they could be arrested for trespassing if they refuse but that would not be Trump's call.


I swear Trump represents the worst, most authoritarian instincts of this country. The same instincts that SJW's have to shut down speech that they don't like.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:11 AM (NPofj)

201 And again I ask, arrested for what? Publicly giving Trump shit at a public event open to the public?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:11 AM (NPofj)

Maybe you haven't been to an event where a protester has staged himself.
Try having one of these major assholes standing next to you , jumping up and down, screaming , swearing, swinging their sign etc. Then have them do this non stop, harassing you as you try to move away.

If you are holding a public assembly and someone or a group comes in and disrupts it by screaming, yelling , threatening, jumping on the stage, etc. they are 1. interfering with my right to peacefully assemble 2. ability to give and receive 'free speech".

It's called harassment, and terrorism. We have laws against both, although this current adminstration ignores and supports both.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:17 AM (rKNmI)

202 There has been no winner declared in Wyoming because
no one has won it yet. Wyoming held a caucus yesterday to elect COUNTY
delegates, who will in turn go to the state convention to represent
their county constituents directives of who they want as a presidential
candidate. On April 16, Wyoming will once again hold another caucus,
this time for the actual State delegates who will go to the National
convention to represent Wyoming. This is where trying to figure out how
the county delegates enter in the picture is almost impossible from the
information I've been able to find online. Somehow the county delegates
will influence the not yet elected State delegates.



Cruz received the most caucus votes yesterday for county delegates.
But he has not "won" Wyoming yet, as Wyoming has not completed it's
primary caucus.



So this is why there is not a declared "winner" on Drudge or other news sites.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:09 AM (rKNmI)

Partially correct Jen. The county caucuses (caucii?) process actually delegated a portion (11) of the 29 delegates available. Of those 11, Cruz got 9 (Trump got one delegate as did Rubio and Kasich got none). There is another process (or processes) that will delegate the other 18 delegates but they will likely split along the same lines as the county delegates. So it would be more accurate to say that Cruz won the first caucus but that more delegates remain to be apportioned.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:18 AM (NPofj)

203 Did I mention that time Mitt Romney had me ride on top of his bus in a cage next to his dog on the way to a campaign rally?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 13, 2016 10:23 AM (MNzex)

204 So it begins...

The split of the old republican party into the "authoritarian" Trumpists and the milktoast Mewling Quims.

Trumpists believe that people, regardless of their views, should be able to book a venue, attract supporters and give a speech without interruption inside the arena.

The MQ's believe that, depending on the subject matter and how it fits into the Social Warrior's list of causes, any speech should be interrupted or forbidden so as not to hurt anyone's feelings.

As a Trumpist, my only question now is should we adopt some form of uniform so that we fulfill the fantasies of the MQs?

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 10:23 AM (Zs4uk)

205 And again I ask, arrested for what? Publicly giving Trump shit at a public event open to the public?

Unless
the protesters themselves got violent or snuck into a ticketed event
without a ticket, they have done nothing illegal that he can have them
arrested for cause being an annoying and loud asshole IS NOT ILLEGAL.
Now once they are asked to leave by an employee of the venue, they could
be arrested for trespassing if they refuse but that would not be
Trump's call.


I swear Trump represents the worst, most
authoritarian instincts of this country. The same instincts that SJW's
have to shut down speech that they don't like.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:11 AM (NPofj)

He was speaking of the rioting protestors that were sent in by Sanders and Move On, They were very violent. Enough to injure 4 cops. And a mob of them crashed a ticketed event which is why Trump cancelled the event.

And of course the MFM blamed Trump.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 10:26 AM (t2KH5)

206 How about clown outfits?

Seriously, clowns are scary..... especially when goosestepping.

Posted by: Han Yolo at March 13, 2016 10:29 AM (MNzex)

207 So it would be more accurate to say that Cruz won the first caucus but that more delegates remain to be apportioned.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:18 AM (NPofj)

Thanks for the additional info. I tried reading an online official explanation and it began to simply blur, lol.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:31 AM (rKNmI)

208 Maybe you haven't been to an event where a protester has staged himself.

Try having one of these major assholes standing next to you ,
jumping up and down, screaming , swearing, swinging their sign etc. Then
have them do this non stop, harassing you as you try to move away.



If you are holding a public assembly and someone or a group comes in
and disrupts it by screaming, yelling , threatening, jumping on the
stage, etc. they are 1. interfering with my right to peacefully assemble
2. ability to give and receive 'free speech".



It's called harassment, and terrorism. We have laws against both, although this current adminstration ignores and supports both.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:17 AM (rKNmI)

Since I have been active in the Tea Party movement for years, I have been to many, many events where leftist were straightforwardly screaming leftist BS and to many events where leftists tried to act like Tea Partiers and then started shorting racist slogans to try and discredit the movement (the latter were dealt with by someone following them around with signs identifying them as MoveOn plants).

Here is the thing, your right to assemble does not negate leftists' right to be as stupid as they want at a public event so long as they don't get violent. Free speech runs in all directions and you have no right to violate someone else's right to speak their mind if you expect your own rights to not be at someone else's whim. The first amendment is meant to protect all speech... even speech that you may find repugnant and wrong.


And it is stupid to call speech without violence "harassment" or "terrorism" although I am sure that there are many college students would agree with you (just about your speech not theirs).

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:32 AM (NPofj)

209 He was speaking of the rioting protestors that were sent in by Sanders and Move On, They were very violent. Enough to injure 4 cops. And a mob of them crashed a ticketed event which is why Trump cancelled the event.

And of course the MFM blamed Trump.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 10:26 AM (t2KH5)

Move On issued a statement congratulating the protesters on disrupting the rally and encouraging them to work to stop any future Trump rallies.

So who exactly is the authoritarian here?

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:33 AM (rKNmI)

210 "Since I have been active in the Tea Party movement for years, I have
been to many, many events where leftist were straightforwardly screaming
leftist BS and to many events where leftists tried to act like Tea
Partiers and then started shorting shouting racist slogans to try and discredit
the movement"




FIFM

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:34 AM (NPofj)

211 I've been reading Karl Denninger's Market Ticker for several years.

http://market-ticker.org/

He usually writes about economic issues. He's a big Trump supporter, and while my support is more cautious and lukewarm, I do think that he's the best option this time. That's not saying very much, given the rest of the field.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2016 10:35 AM (sdi6R)

212 This realignment is going to make some sea changes...

As Trumpists, we'll gain a good portion of white, lower income, working class democrats. We'll also pick up a number of college educated male democrats and independents who feel left out due to social policies.

We will loose just about our entire contingent of magazine, newspaper and blog writers, along with the majority of the pundits and contributors to cable tv shows. The Quims will have a formidable writing staff.

Also, we can forget the entire foreign vote. When polled, the UK, Germany, France and all of Scandinavia will show overwhelming support for the MQ party.

Even with all these drawbacks, the split will turn out as a plus for the Trumpists. A purge is always difficult, but we'll all feel refreshed when it's over.

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 10:36 AM (Zs4uk)

213 He was speaking of the rioting protestors that were sent in by Sanders
and Move On, They were very violent. Enough to injure 4 cops. And a mob
of them crashed a ticketed event which is why Trump cancelled the event.



And of course the MFM blamed Trump.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 10:26 AM (t2KH5)



Vic... I heard the statement and it sounded to me like he meant protesters inside his events (he was talking about having them arrested himself and not the police keeping order). Again, violence is illegal and people should be arrested for that but he did not in any way single out violent protesters.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:37 AM (NPofj)

214 198 Righties now trying to deny individuals the right to legal counsel by claiming it's an incitement to violence, tell me again who the authoritians are https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/709003720269434880
Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:02 AM (yos+4)

If you think Donald Trump is a "righty," you've got a problem.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 10:37 AM (Dttnn)

215 Thanks for the additional info. I tried reading an online official explanation and it began to simply blur, lol.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:31 AM (rKNmI)


Several states have processes so convoluted, they make your eyes cross

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:39 AM (NPofj)

216 Here is the thing, your right to assemble does not negate leftists' right to be as stupid as they want at a public event so long as they don't get violent.


Unless the rally is held on government property it's a private event and the people holding the event have the right to do what's necessary to ensure their right to assemble, and they have a right to defend themselves from physical threats whether the event is public or private.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:40 AM (yos+4)

217 (Terry Jones in drag)
We have Trump with spam,
Trump with hard boiled eggs,
Trump with bacon,
Trump with bagels,
Trump with French toast,
Trump with eggs easy over,
Trump with pancakes,
Trump with oatmeal,
Trump with Trump and bacon,
Trump with blueberry pie, Trump, and spam

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 10:42 AM (fizMZ)

218 206 How about clown outfits?

Seriously, clowns are scary..... especially when goosestepping.

Posted by: Han Yolo at March 13, 2016 10:29 AM (MNzex)


Just reading about goosestepping clowns sent chills down my spine.

I like it.

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 10:42 AM (Zs4uk)

219 And it is stupid to call speech without violence "harassment" or "terrorism" although I am sure that there are many college students would agree with you (just about your speech not theirs).
Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:32 AM (NPofj)

I'm not sure why you think these protesters are not violent.
These people are not simply standing in the crowd yelling this and that. They are actually threatening attendees. They blocked the exit to a parking garage in Chicago, refusing to allow people out. They bloodied a cops face.

What do you think would have happened yesterday if the ISIS follower had actually made it up on stage with Trump?

You cannot allow progressively increasing mayhem at rallies simply because you want to call it "free speech". It's not, it mob criminality. It's creeping ever so close to violence because it is being allowed.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:43 AM (rKNmI)

220 We have Trump with spam,
Trump with hard boiled eggs,
Trump with bacon,
Trump with bagels,
Trump with French toast,
Trump with eggs easy over,
Trump with pancakes,
Trump with oatmeal,
Trump with Trump and bacon,
Trump with blueberry pie, Trump, and spam

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 10:42 AM (fizMZ)


Time to go get something to eat.

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 10:46 AM (Zs4uk)

221 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 10:37 AM (Dttnn)


Trump is the person providing legal counsel.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:46 AM (yos+4)

222 "It provides an extra hour of daylight after work which the stupid merchants think will increase shopping."

What would happen if a merchant changed his hours of operation. Say opened an hour early and closed an hour early.

He could sell that "extra hour of daylight after work" on EBAY?

Do you get this extra hour if you are a retail clerk?

Posted by: scorecard at March 13, 2016 10:48 AM (CRXed)

223 Trump is the person providing legal counsel.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:46 AM (yos+4)

So what? You stated incorrectly that this is the action of "righties," when it is, in fact, just the action of Trump.

I maintain that Trump isn't "right."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 10:49 AM (Dttnn)

224
This realignment is going to make some sea changes...



As Trumpists, we'll gain a good portion of white, lower income,
working class democrats. We'll also pick up a number of college
educated male democrats and independents who feel left out due to social
policies.



We will loose just about our entire contingent of magazine,
newspaper and blog writers, along with the majority of the pundits and
contributors to cable tv shows. The Quims will have a formidable
writing staff.



Also, we can forget the entire foreign vote. When polled, the UK,
Germany, France and all of Scandinavia will show overwhelming support
for the MQ party.



Even with all these drawbacks, the split will turn out as a plus for
the Trumpists. A purge is always difficult, but we'll all feel
refreshed when it's over.

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2016 10:36 AM (Zs4uk)

Trump's unfavorable rating hovers in the high 60's% (over 50% have a strongly unfavorable opinion of Trump). There are no hordes that will come out of the woodwork to elect him if he is the candidate.

The enstompening that you think you want is just not going to happen.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:51 AM (NPofj)

225 Can someone explain to me about the "unfavorable" ratings of a candidate.

For example, I personally don't like Trump's hair, or his often repetitive answers that have no detail about policy, etc.
I'm not impressed that he has been married three times. I'm not impressed that he felt at his age, having a child (Barron) was a good idea , in that the child will grow up having a great grandfather as a dad and then no dad at a much earlier age than typical.
Is he my ideal candidate? No, not at all.

But if he is the Republican candidate vs. Hillary, I will vote for him. Because no matter what, we are going to be electing a president and I know how policy wise, Hillary is going to be as president. Trump I have more hope for.

So I will be tossing the unfavorables aside.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:57 AM (rKNmI)

226 I'm not sure why you think these protesters are not violent.

These people are not simply standing in the crowd yelling this and
that. They are actually threatening attendees. They blocked the exit to a
parking garage in Chicago, refusing to allow people out. They bloodied a
cops face.



What do you think would have happened yesterday if the ISIS follower had actually made it up on stage with Trump?



You cannot allow progressively increasing mayhem at rallies simply
because you want to call it "free speech". It's not, it mob criminality.
It's creeping ever so close to violence because it is being allowed.





Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 10:43 AM (rKNmI)

All the things that go beyond speech (violence, blocking public thoroughfares, etc) are already illegal and people would presumably be arrested for them... if they are not being arrested, then the police are not doing their jobs and need to start doing that.


But that is not what you initially argued. You said them being at event being loud and obnoxious violated other attendees right to assembly (which it doesn't) and that it was harassment and terrorism (which it isn't).

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:57 AM (NPofj)

227 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 10:49 AM (Dttnn)

Try reading my comment again and the tweet at the link again.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:58 AM (yos+4)

228 227 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 10:49 AM (Dttnn) Try reading my comment again and the tweet at the link again.Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:58 AM (yos+4)

Apologies if I misunderstood.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 11:00 AM (Dttnn)

229 Around 5 policemen were injured on Friday night at the protest of Trump's rally

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2016 11:01 AM (fizMZ)

230 213 Vic... I heard the statement and it sounded to me
like he meant protesters inside his events (he was talking about having
them arrested himself and not the police keeping order). Again, violence
is illegal and people should be arrested for that but he did not in any
way single out violent protesters.




Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 10:37 AM (NPofj)

You read the wrong article.




Trump's comments follow a weekend of campaign events marred by protests
and violence, which started with the cancellation of a rally Friday
night in Chicago and included arrests, clashes between supporters and
protesters and a would-be stage crasher.





Also included with that was four injured cops at that Chicago riot.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 11:02 AM (t2KH5)

231 Unless the rally is held on government property it's
a private event and the people holding the event have the right to do
what's necessary to ensure their right to assemble, and they have a
right to defend themselves from physical threats whether the event is
public or private.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:40 AM (yos+4)


I am not sure you are correct about most of Trump's events being on government property but assuming you are right, that increases not decreases the protesters right to be there.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:02 AM (NPofj)

232 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2016 11:00 AM (Dttnn)

No problem bud.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:02 AM (NPofj)

I don't know where they were held, just pointing out not all rallies are public events. Anyway, I'm off to the lake, y'all have a good one.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 11:09 AM (yos+4)

233 Also included with that was four injured cops at that Chicago riot.


Chicago is accustomed to large crowds. The big news was that six people were arrested at the last Blackhawks rally (a few million people). Really do not think that CPD is all that worried about some political rallies. However, I do think it is time for all of us to 'check our privilege' and see who is causing disruptions and who is arrested. Certain privileged classes do appear to get a pass when it comes to disruptions.


Posted by: mustbequantum at March 13, 2016 11:18 AM (MIKMs)

234 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 11:02 AM (t2KH5)


Vic I don't think I am wrong (and the reading I gave his statement is the same one that RedState did).



He would not be talking about pressing charges for violent behavior against other people as that would be up to those people and the police. Nor would he be talking about protesters outside the venues as that would be a police matter having nothing to do with him also. He was talking about protesters inside the venues.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:21 AM (NPofj)

235 Redbanzai,
Here is what I said upthread. As an attendee at past Tea Party rallys, I have personally experienced the following.
"Try having one of these major assholes standing next to you ,
jumping up and down, screaming , swearing, swinging their sign etc. Then
have them do this non stop, harassing you as you try to move away. "



"If you are holding a public assembly and someone or a group comes in
and disrupts it by screaming, yelling , threatening, jumping on the
stage, etc. they are 1. interfering with my right to peacefully assemble
2. ability to give and receive 'free speech". "


Notice I said "threatening".
Being loud and obnoxious happens at events that range from rock concerts to Nascar events. (which by the way, because Nascar is technically a private event, I've seen people escorted out because they were standing up calling a driving a stupid "f " ) .

These people are not simply loud and obnoxious, because that doesn't serve their purpose. Their purpose is to escalate the threat of violence until participants at the rally are intimidated enough that they leave. So they ratchet up the behavior until they achieve their goal. And they do not in the least have a limit. They will do whatever it takes, including violence and threats.

I was at a tea party rally where a mom and her two kids left because the kids were crying and terrified of this bearded, screaming goon yelling and pointing at the crowd, including their mom. I wanted to get behind him and kick him in the nuts.

Then I would have been the one going to jail.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 13, 2016 11:24 AM (rKNmI)

236 Some of commie Sanders' advisors must have hit him with a clue bat because he is now denying anything to do with the violent riots in Chicago. However, WZ has the goods on him and Moveon. Moveon is not only not denying it, they are taking credit for it. One wonders if they know can be prosecuted for that shit.


http://tinyurl.com/gwy382f

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 11:26 AM (t2KH5)

237 Jen... I too have been at rallies with truly obnoxious protesters. If they get truly violent, then they are arrested (assuming the police are doing their job which may be a big assumption in certain areas).





If they are just shouting in screaming (even in such a way that scares small children) there are better ways of dealing with it than trying to have them arrested when they have done nothing illegal. Obviously the best way would be to engage them in debate. Since that seldom works, there are also the options of singing patriotic songs which frustrates them to no end OR putting the big guys in the crown between protesters and the women and children. What you don't get to do if you want your own rights respected is violate another group's rights.




As I said earlier, being an obnoxious asshole is not illegal and the 1st amendment is meant to protect speech that we might find absolutely repugnant.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:45 AM (NPofj)

238 I am not sure you are correct about most of Trump's events being on government property but assuming you are right, that increases not decreases the protesters right to be there.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:02 AM (NPofj)


Stadiums and arenas are almost never public property... they are incorporated even when funded by Tax Dollars....

And even in the Public square, on public land, you RENT the venue.... and thus get some property rights via the rental agreement.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 13, 2016 11:50 AM (RK8AH)

239 As I said earlier, being an obnoxious asshole is not illegal and the 1st amendment is meant to protect speech that we might find absolutely repugnant.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:45 AM (NPofj)


How about throwing things.... like a Tomato, at the person on the podium?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 13, 2016 11:51 AM (RK8AH)

240 Long time lurker, first time commenting. Thank you Anna Puma for that youtube link, made my morning.

Posted by: leumas at March 13, 2016 11:53 AM (yzshC)

241 And even in the Public square, on public land, you
RENT the venue.... and thus get some property rights via the rental
agreement.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 13, 2016 11:50 AM (RK8AH)

Some you rent, some you just have to get a rally permit... either way, if it is not a ticketed event it is open to the public. That includes obnoxious leftists.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:58 AM (NPofj)

242
How about throwing things.... like a Tomato, at the person on the podium?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 13, 2016 11:51 AM (RK8AH)


That is assault and a crime.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 11:59 AM (NPofj)

243 gun thread up

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 13, 2016 12:05 PM (t2KH5)

244 198
Righties now trying to deny individuals the right to legal counsel by
claiming it's an incitement to violence, tell me again who the
authoritians are
https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/709003720269434880

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 13, 2016 10:02 AM (yos+4)

Thats retarded, sir. Dat old skoo....we new skoo.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at March 13, 2016 12:33 PM (aRUb8)

245
Meanwhile, The Douche opines:

NYT: The Party Still Decides
Ross Douthat

the party's convention rules, in all their anachronistic, undemocratic and highly-negotiable intricacy, are also a line of defense, also a hurdle, also a place where a man unfit for office can be turned aside.

So in Cleveland this summer, the men and women of the Republican Party may face a straightforward choice: Betray the large minority of Republicans who cast their votes for Trump, or betray their obligations to their country.

For a party proud of its patriotism, the choice should not be hard.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:17 PM (kdS6q)

246 For a party proud of its patriotism, the choice should not be hard.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:17 PM (kdS6q)

Notice the word MINORITY. If Trump cannot get to 1237, he does not win.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 01:26 PM (NPofj)

247
Notice the word MINORITY. If Trump cannot get to 1237, he does not win.
Posted by: redbanzai




Notice you didn't bother to read the article before chiming in.

Where he states even if Trump has a majority or the delegates, if he has only a plurality of the popular vote he should be denied the nomination, contrary to the rules of the process, by any means necessary.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:37 PM (kdS6q)

248
Also note his equating Trump to Huey Long and George Wallace -- two people shot while running for President -- hint hint.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:39 PM (kdS6q)

249
Where he states even if Trump has a majority or
the delegates, if he has only a plurality of the popular vote he should
be denied the nomination, contrary to the rules of the process, by any
means necessary.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:37 PM (kdS6q)


Well that is stupid... there are no rules that I know of that address popular vote.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2016 01:46 PM (NPofj)

250 For a party proud of its patriotism, the choice should not be hard.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2016 01:17 PM (kdS6q)


Exactly!
The choice is Trumps vapid slogans or Cruzs Constitutional principles.Which would you choose? Rhetoric and demagogic mental styleings of Trump or an understand and firm adherence to what founded this country embodied by Cruz?Again..I agree with you. The choice should net be hard to make.

Posted by: Mimzey at March 13, 2016 01:52 PM (aRUb8)

251 redbanzai's peaceful protesters:
https://twitter.com/LivNow/status/709054993387671552

BTW, those are Trump signs stolen from attendees that are being ripped up.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2016 02:52 PM (ioqGj)

252
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Posted by: Buckaroo Banzai at March 15, 2016 01:16 PM (ppXFZ)

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