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EMT 3/12/16 One Week Sober edition [krakatoa]

No, not an alcoholic. Just cheap. Valu-Rite doesn't grow on trees ya know.

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1 Your going to loose sleep tonight, get it while you can
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:01 AM (fizMZ)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Saturday, March 12, 2016. On this day in 1894 Coca-Cola was bottled and sold for the first time in Vicksburg, Mississippi, by local soda fountain operator Joseph Biedenharn.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:04 AM (t2KH5)

3 Trump cancelled a planned rally in Chicago after thousands of violent "protestors" (otherwise known as thugs) packed the arena where it was planned. Looking at the video it appears these thugs were made of largely of blacks. Evidently they came there with the intent of creating trouble. Fox made sure to take a picture showing a mainly white group. This attack was pushed by Bernie Sanders and Move On. And Trump's opponents are blaming Trump. Trump should sue them.


http://tinyurl.com/h5p28qq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:04 AM (t2KH5)

4 Republican lawmakers are accusing Obama of illegally diverting funds to insurance companies from Obamacare. Well you toads know the answer to that but you have taken it off the table. You can also hold the person who actually diverted the funds in criminal contempt.


http://tinyurl.com/z9kmh6h

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:05 AM (t2KH5)

5 The Army is not happy with the current way a replacement pistol procurement process is running.


http://tinyurl.com/zk3ma22

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:05 AM (t2KH5)

6 Obama plans to use his trip to Cuba to make an unofficial "treaty" so that his successor can not undo his crap after he leaves office.


http://tinyurl.com/z7fzgzh

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:05 AM (t2KH5)

7 The US has no current policy for what to do with captured ISIS operatives so they are keeping them for 30 days or less for interrogation and then turning them over to Iraq. This is a result of the open questions surrounding GITMO and the military (Obama) making it illegal to send anyone new there.


http://tinyurl.com/joaueby

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:05 AM (t2KH5)

8 Recall months ago when Obama made that deal with the UN and Europe to send them $500M in US taxpayer money. He made that deal with no congressional approval and my question then was where was he going to get the money. Well he is illegally diverting money from other programs and sending it to them. And some Senators are raising hell. Hey, impeach his crooked ass. And better yet, cut off all funds to the WH and make them support themselves in the dark.


http://tinyurl.com/hzlghd7

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)

9 A local OH judge has ordered that 17-year-old teens be allowed to vote in the OH Presidential Primary. State judges have no authority over federal elections and he has overstepped his bounds. Federal voting rules are covered by the Constitution, which specifies 18 years of age. This judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred. This obscene ruling was pushed by Commie Sanders and Move On who gets a lot of his support from unwashed teenagers.


http://tinyurl.com/z2nvg4f

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)

10 RIP Keith Emerson of Emerson Lake and Palmer. He was 71.


http://tinyurl.com/h3ocvrr

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)

11 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2016 06:06 AM (KCxzN)

12 Sweden is still the rape capitol of Europe although Germany is trying to catch up. How long are people going to put up with this shit before they start killing muzzie migrants?


http://tinyurl.com/zsx2a2h

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:07 AM (t2KH5)

13 Oshitforbrains scolded his audience when they openly laughed at his claim that requesting voter ID was "voter suppression. I suspect that the people in the audience had to show an ID to get into the event. I also know that you have to show an ID to get into Democrat Headquarters in DC (and most other such buildings).


http://tinyurl.com/zflwv9f

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:07 AM (t2KH5)

14 Lindsay Graham says he would vote for a Scankles SCOTUS nominee. Why not? He has voted for all of Obama's. I still do not understand how this shit got reelected.


http://tinyurl.com/hg73sy5

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:07 AM (t2KH5)

15 Pharaoh Obama has unilaterally (and most likely illegally) changed to rules for foreign graduates allowed stay time in the US so they can take more American STEM jobs at a time when unemployment is at a record high. Press is strangely silent.


http://tinyurl.com/hmb5e8w

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:07 AM (t2KH5)

16 Things are getting even crazier out there. WI man accused of breaking into a coworker's house and raping their dog.


http://tinyurl.com/zbamg6q

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:08 AM (t2KH5)

17 Three illegals who had been previously convicted of rape in the US have been caught sneaking back in the country. I say deport them to the southern tip of Argentina and dump them on an island there.


http://tinyurl.com/gogxa83

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:08 AM (t2KH5)

18 Cambridge cancels an Around The World in 80 Days themed party because of complaints from a few drooling idiots. When are people going to wise up and tell these idiots to sit down and STFU because nobody with half a brain gives a shit about their insane opinions?


http://tinyurl.com/z7mxcku

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:08 AM (t2KH5)

19

DAY 1,222

241 to go (314 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:08 AM (p4UlV)

20 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/jhgnrgn

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:08 AM (t2KH5)

21 And lastly I see that Ace has noticed an influx of troublemaking newbies. I remarked on this several days ago. It happens every election cycle. We get a pile of troublemakers here whose sole purpose is to sew discontent and make trouble. I suspect they are paid political operatives who intend to shutdown conservative sites who may be supporting an opposition candidate.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:09 AM (t2KH5)

22 That's it for today folks. Have a happy Saturday. If today is as nice as it was yesterday I may have to retire to the porch rocker.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:09 AM (t2KH5)

23
Keith Emerson? Wow. The Nice, King Crimson, ELP. Incredible musician. Another fixture from my childhood gone forever.

RIP and thanks for those riffs, Keith.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:10 AM (p4UlV)

24 thanks, Vic

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2016 06:10 AM (KCxzN)

25 22 That's it for today folks. Have a happy Saturday. If today is as nice as it was yesterday I may have to retire to the porch rocker.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:09 AM (t2KH5)


Better a porch rocker than a porch roller. Enjoy it, bro.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (p4UlV)

26 Thanks for including Emo's death, Vic.

Keith Emerson dead at 71. Being investigated as a possible suicide. Advanced carpal tunnel syndrome meant he couldn't hardly play anymore. That's gotta be tough for a guy who lived for music. (just speculation of course, it's still under investigation.)

Gonna fire up the entire Karn Evil 9 tonight. Might even indulge in a little sumpin sumpin for old times' sake.

I'm a lifelong Prog fanatic. He was one of the greats.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (HMt16)

27

Heck,, after the crap last night in Chicago I've decided that I'm gonna vote Trump....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (5/oDv)

28 Was reading about contested convention, if you don't get 50.1% of the delegates you don't get the nomination. If you have 49.9 and no one has 50.1% you don't get the nomination. Then all delegates vote from scratch. Sounds simple.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (fizMZ)

29 Going to go see if there is coffee

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:13 AM (fizMZ)

30 25 Better a porch rocker than a porch roller. Enjoy it, bro.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (p4UlV)


Porch roller??? What is that?

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:14 AM (t2KH5)

31 28 Was reading about contested convention, if you don't get 50.1% of the delegates you don't get the nomination. If you have 49.9 and no one has 50.1% you don't get the nomination. Then all delegates vote from scratch. Sounds simple.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (fizMZ)


Logic dictates that a particular candidate's delegates would vote for that delegate. Or what am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:14 AM (p4UlV)

32 30 Porch roller??? What is that?
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:14 AM (t2KH5)


A wheelchair maybe? I don't know. It sounded good in my head.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:15 AM (p4UlV)

33 Logic dictates that a particular candidate's delegates would vote for that delegate. Or what am I missing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:14 AM (p4UlV)


The way I understand it is pledged delegates from the primaries vote for their candidate on the first ballot. After that first ballot, if there is no winner, then all delegates are free agents, voting for whom they please.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:16 AM (MjgAb)

34 Trump cancelled an event to avoid violence?

That MONSTER!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:16 AM (HMt16)

35 I suppose I shouldn't be so shocked when guys like Emerson pass away. I'm not exactly 16 anymore.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:17 AM (p4UlV)

36 26 Keith Emerson dead at 71. Being investigated as a
possible suicide. Advanced carpal tunnel syndrome meant he couldn't
hardly play anymore. That's gotta be tough for a guy who lived for
music. (just speculation of course, it's still under investigation.)



Gonna fire up the entire Karn Evil 9 tonight. Might even indulge in a little sumpin sumpin for old times' sake.



I'm a lifelong Prog fanatic. He was one of the greats.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:11 AM (HMt16)


That article I linked didn't give a "cause of death". Possible suicide huh.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:17 AM (t2KH5)

37 33 Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:16 AM (MjgAb)

I get it, but does "pledged" mean that they must vote for the guy despite perhaps as a private citizen supporting someone else?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:18 AM (p4UlV)

38 32 A wheelchair maybe? I don't know. It sounded good in my head.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:15 AM (p4UlV)

A wheelchair would make it hard to get in and out of the front door w/o some major mods.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:19 AM (t2KH5)

39 34
Trump cancelled an event to avoid violence?



That MONSTER!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:16 AM (HMt16)

And it was violence incited by Commie Sanders and Move On. So say reports from sites other than Faux News.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (t2KH5)

40 Thankx for the linx, Vic.

I guess. Not much good news there.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (eBsWa)

41 I get it, but does "pledged" mean that they must vote for the guy despite perhaps as a private citizen supporting someone else?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:18 AM (p4UlV)


What I'm trying and failing to convey is that wouldn't pledged delegates vote for the one they're pledged to or does being pledged overrule one's personal wants

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (p4UlV)

42 Anybody else seeing ads for Pillsbury Animal Butt Cookies?

Is that actually a Thing?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (HMt16)

43 38 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:19 AM (t2KH5)

Never mind. Just rock on.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:21 AM (p4UlV)

44 37 I get it, but does "pledged" mean that they must vote for the guy despite perhaps as a private citizen supporting someone else?



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:18 AM (p4UlV)

Pledge delegates have always been legally free to vote for someone else. On rare occasions one does.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (t2KH5)

45 That article I linked didn't give a "cause of death". Possible suicide huh.

That's what they're reporting at The AV Club, and I saw it being discussed at ProgressiveEars.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (HMt16)

46 First!

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (ir3Yt)

47 42 Anybody else seeing ads for Pillsbury Animal Butt Cookies?

Is that actually a Thing?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (HMt16)


I'm getting U Penn pre-med program, Triscuit and modern furniture.

No breast cream or Summer's Eve, yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (p4UlV)

48
Of course as soon as I post it's Oreo and monster t-shirts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:23 AM (p4UlV)

49 44 Pledge delegates have always been legally free to vote for someone else. On rare occasions one does.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (t2KH5)

At last, an answer. Thanks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:24 AM (p4UlV)

50 So if Sanders is against free speech, doesn't that make him as much a monster as Trump, who is also against free speech? And what the heck, Cruz. What the heck.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:24 AM (3v3uS)

51 What I'm trying and failing to convey is that wouldn't pledged delegates vote for the one they're pledged to or does being pledged overrule one's personal wants

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM (p4UlV)


I lost you on the second question. Pledged delegates vote for the candidate they're pledged to on the first ballot. So I guess the answer to your second question is 'yes' on the first ballot.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:24 AM (MjgAb)

52 Heavy fog outside just turned into a weird freezing mist that coated the entire world out there with frost within minutes. Like there was an ice storm without any ice. Supposed to get to near 60 today. Cray-cray weather.

Suppose I should haul my ass to the gym anyway.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:26 AM (HMt16)

53 I don't get the ad placement, the one on top now is a local insurance. But sometimes a ad comes up lots of people see but I see days later or before.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:27 AM (fizMZ)

54 If you're not first, you're forty-sixth.

--Ricky Bobby

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at March 12, 2016 06:27 AM (ir3Yt)

55 These groups will CONTINUE to disrupt rallies - and not just Trump's - until they're confronted with overwhelming force.

I'm literally watching people on Fox News praising the protesters, because they "brought the focus onto Trump's outlandish policies" (paraphrasing).

So - the rules are set - start a riot at any campaign rally held by any candidate you oppose. Got it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 06:29 AM (qmMG2)

56 I have to wonder about scheduling a Trump rally in Chicago, of all places. Was the event planned with that expected outcome? Once again, Donald Trump is front page news and the topic of every conversation.

That being said, it does illustrate the crystal clear divide in this country and could drive five million new voters to the polls in November -- to vote for Trump.

As always, prefer Cruz, but Trump seems to be the 'fck you' candidate. The libs and progressives (spit) are playing a game which is highly likely to backfire.

Posted by: mega machines at March 12, 2016 06:30 AM (fbovC)

57 I'm literally watching people on Fox News praising the protesters, because they "brought the focus onto Trump's outlandish policies"


Faux News jumping the shark was the catalyst for me finally cutting the cable last autumn. Haven't missed it for a minute. Should have done it long ago. Good job, Faux News!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:31 AM (HMt16)

58 45 That article I linked didn't give a "cause of death". Possible suicide huh.

That's what they're reporting at The AV Club, and I saw it being discussed at ProgressiveEars.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:22 AM (HMt16)
______________________

Single gunshot to the head, is what's being reported elsewhere.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2016 06:31 AM (df5V4)

59 Curious to see if there will be any counter-punch from the right at a Bernie rally. I hope not, but the way this stuff is going it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:32 AM (3v3uS)

60 As always, prefer Cruz, but Trump seems to be the 'fck you' candidate. The libs and progressives (spit) are playing a game which is highly likely to backfire.

After Cruz's comments on the riot's ... I'm no longer a "Cruz first" guy.

But it will be funny - if they're successful in driving Trump out - to see Ted's response when BLM and MoveOn target him.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 06:32 AM (qmMG2)

61 Surprising organ donation that is saving a girls life:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z8tdznw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:33 AM (w4NZ8)

62 Yesterday was an absolute gorgeous day here. Sunny, light breeze, and highs in the low 80s. I was mighty tempted to hit the porch. But stayed in here and read while looking up every now and then to read the latest anti-Trump post from Ace.


Today is supposed to be a similar weather day

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

63 I was going to vote for Cruz next week, but rethinking that decision. Might just stay home and let the craziness work itself out.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:34 AM (3v3uS)

64 We've been having a beautiful March in northern IL. Had so little snow this year, nothing to melt and the temps have been very nice.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:35 AM (3v3uS)

65 Young Chinese man man helps elderly woman across street in noble way:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j5fxg5h

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (w4NZ8)

66 Evidently Emerson shot himself. I did read that he had emergency surgery in 2010 to remove a polyp (assume it was large and cancerous) but nothing about whether it was related to his current situation and death.

That's it for now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (p4UlV)

67 J.J., I should also add that Republicans have their super delegates, too, who are total free agents. So that means the second place candidate in pledged votes going into the convention could win on the first ballot thanks to those super delegates. And since super delegates are party functionaries, pols and the like, it's a good bet not too many super delegates would go for Trump.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (MjgAb)

68 Trump canceled the event himself. The Chicago PD gave the go ahead to have the rally. The CPD said they had more than enough resources to handle the crowd.

I am and always have been #1 for Trump but I am smelling a publicity stunt here. One that work better than Trump may hoped for.

I think Trump locked up the lions share of Illinois's Delegates next Tuesday.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (WVsWD)

69 Single gunshot to the head, is what's being reported elsewhere.


Sounds like suicide. Damn. I know he wasn't well, and he was no spring chicken, but that's always hard on the loved ones.

Must have just received some very bad health news.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (HMt16)

70 63 I was going to vote for Cruz next week, but rethinking that decision. Might just stay home and let the craziness work itself out.

Lizabth - you're going to see these protests during every political cycle from here on out, until they're met with equal violence. Why ? Because it works.

As it worked in 1930s Germany.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 06:37 AM (qmMG2)

71 "J.J., I should also add that Republicans have their super delegates, too, who are total free agents."

Are you sure about that? I seem to remember that SD for the Repubs are assigned during the primary along with the vote.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:38 AM (WVsWD)

72 Thanks for the news Vic. Its about the only place I get it now. Your probably not as hot as Robin Meade but otherwise your ok.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 12, 2016 06:38 AM (wKUFh)

73 OK, this site is calling it a possible suicide.


http://tinyurl.com/zcnh3em

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:40 AM (t2KH5)

74 is what happened in Chicago last night any different than what happened to Ben Shapiro at that Cal U two weeks ago? Expect more of this. I won't be surprised if this happens at the Dem convention if the bernbots think Hilly stole the nomination.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 12, 2016 06:40 AM (ctqZB)

75 I am and always have been #1 for Trump but I am smelling a publicity stunt here. One that work better than Trump may hoped for.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (WVsWD)


I read the police on scene asked Trump to cancel, but the brass at police headquarters didn't know that. But who knows what the true story about anything political is anymore.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:40 AM (MjgAb)

76 Robin Meade

She's almost inhumanly hawt. My ideal woman.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:41 AM (HMt16)

77 Music directors are, by and large, pitiful people. Between churches and schools, you see a common pattern: they get bored with good songs, and feel this insatiable need to ram "experimental crap" down your throat.

Thus your children are singing some Latvian Folk Song, in Latvian, while the director weeps "It translates to 'my mule has eaten your potatoes...'" or something equally stupid. Thus you hear Hymn 288, "The Time An Apostle Fell Down," or some other ultra-obtuse song, and not Amazing Grace.

There are at least 200 great hymns.
There are at least 2,000 great songs, in English, that everyone knows and loves.

You go to church 52 times a year - is it too much to ask that at least ONE of the songs that they play be from "the Great Hymn Songbook?"

You go to see your kids sing maybe twice a year, Winter and Spring typically... is it too much to ask that they find mostly great classics?

Musical directors, please, grow up will ya?

Posted by: RobM1981 at March 12, 2016 06:41 AM (zurJC)

78 67
J.J., I should also add that Republicans have their super delegates,
too, who are total free agents. So that means the second place
candidate in pledged votes going into the convention could win on the
first ballot thanks to those super delegates. And since super delegates
are party functionaries, pols and the like, it's a good bet not too
many super delegates would go for Trump.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (MjgAb)

Republicans have three "super delegates" per State. They are there to represent the Party and they are usually State Party big-wigs. They will vote what ever the Party wants.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:42 AM (t2KH5)

79 I don't think it was a stunt. Trump wants to win the Illinois primary badly so he attempted a rally. Well, he wants to win them all, but Illinois is a particularly delegate-rich plum.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:42 AM (HMt16)

80 I still support Cruz but it's kind of dumb to say Trump's "tone" is somehow connected to the violence.

If you're in Chicago, of all places, and your stated positions are a direct threat to Leftists/Statists, and a good chunk of your supporters are of the blue-collar variety, then shit is going to happen.

But Mario is more correct to say that the tone of all this was created and continues to be nurtured by Obama.

Cruz in this instance would have been wiser to just not say anything. Will this convert Cruz supporters to Trump? Doubtful. Unfortunately, it won't do the opposite either.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:43 AM (p4UlV)

81 68
Trump canceled the event himself. The Chicago PD gave the go ahead to
have the rally. The CPD said they had more than enough resources to
handle the crowd.



I am and always have been #1 for Trump but I am smelling a publicity stunt here. One that work better than Trump may hoped for.



I think Trump locked up the lions share of Illinois's Delegates next Tuesday.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:36 AM (WVsWD)

How can the CPD justify having enough resources to handle the crowd when rioting was already occurring. Trump was right to cancel.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:44 AM (t2KH5)

82 Trump cancelled an event to avoid violence?

That MONSTER!


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:16 AM (HMt16)



One of the local "news analysts" blamed Trump, asking why he continues to hold yuuge rallies just to "incite his supporters."

Because Chicago blacks can't possibly be responsible citizens.

Because eight years of the dog-eating crackhead telling his people to "get in their faces" and "punch back twice as hard" should just be ignored.

It's all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 12, 2016 06:44 AM (GUDMx)

83 Yes...it was uncomfortable, personally, to agree with Rubio over Cruz.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:45 AM (3v3uS)

84 I lived in Skokie during the 1968 Democratic convention and commuted to the Loop. Chicago cops kept a lid on the violence quite well. I never felt unsafe for a moment.

Still, it's hard to imagine Trump canceling an event like this without good reason.

Suddenly I'm wishing I lived more than ninety miles from Chicago.

So what do you think, horde? Does he get a better bounce out of showing up or canceling?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:46 AM (eBsWa)

85 Y'all know the AoS rule when talking about Hawt Chicks.


http://emergingstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Robin-Meade.jpg

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:47 AM (t2KH5)

86 #288 in the Presbyterian hymnal:

"I sing the mighty power of God"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSoE1Kmmv0

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:48 AM (w4NZ8)

87 He gets a bounce. We're about 100 miles away from Chi, and that still seems much too close.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:48 AM (3v3uS)

88 This is what I am going by.

http://abc7chicago.com/politics/donald-trump-cancels-uic-rally/1241331/

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:48 AM (WVsWD)

89 >>> Musical directors, please, grow up will ya?

"Know your audience"

Some want to hear 'My Mule Ate Your Potatoes' in the original Latvian, most people are more conventional.

Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 06:49 AM (2hcmo)

90 85 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:47 AM (t2KH5)


Man that is one big-ass rock on her finger. But agreed. Hot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:50 AM (p4UlV)

91 Still, it's hard to imagine Trump canceling an event like this without good reason.


creeper, now I'm thinking his Secret Service detail got some intel. Trump wears a bulletproof vest for a reason, and this might have more to do with a credible death threat than crowd control/protester issues...

we live in f--ked up times.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:50 AM (HMt16)

92 Unless I am mistaken, delegates to a convention are obligated to vote for a candidate only on the first vote. If nobody wins the first vote, they are free to wheel and deal.

Wheeling and dealing the Super delegates has already begun.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 12, 2016 06:50 AM (1ijHg)

93 288 in one of the Baptist Hymnals-" I can hear my Savior Calling"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9FqFC0WA-o

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:51 AM (w4NZ8)

94 84 So what do you think, horde? Does he get a better bounce out of showing up or canceling?


Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:46 AM (eBsWa)

I think it will have very little impact, if any

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

95 @78 My hubby picks music for church. The good stuff. He gets complaints about dirges and whatnot, and gets asked why can't they sing something modern and jazzy with simpler and fewer words. Signs of the times.

Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:51 AM (3v3uS)

96 How can the CPD justify having enough resources to handle the crowd when rioting was already occurring. Trump was right to cancel.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:44 AM (t2KH5)

Just going by what I have read Vic. Everything I can seems to indicate that the CPD and ISP could have handled the situation. I agree that Trump was correct in cancelling the event.

He got way more publicity with the cancellation than he ever could of with a peaceful assembly.

Nicht wahr?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:51 AM (WVsWD)

97 89 Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 06:49 AM (2hcmo)


The P.S. 152 Alma Mater is de riguer at all concerts, IMHO.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:52 AM (p4UlV)

98 And if Trump's security guys and Secret Service detail have been extra jumpy due to serious, credible death threats, it could help explain the Fields brouhaha.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:52 AM (HMt16)

99 It doesn't surprise me anymore if Keith Emerson shot himself especially if it was a major health problem. Suicide by gunshot is the most prominent method of old white guys.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:52 AM (fizMZ)

100 J.J., how's the stomach this morning?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 12, 2016 06:52 AM (GUDMx)

101 This is what I am going by.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:48 AM (WVsWD)


The article is all interviews with police brass. I read somewhere overnight that police on scene had asked Trump to cancel. I'm sure the police brass do not want to take any blame for cancellation.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM (MjgAb)

102 94 84 So what do you think, horde? Does he get a better bounce out of showing up or canceling?


Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:46 AM (eBsWa)

I think it will have very little impact, if any


Seconded.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM (HMt16)

103 I drove in to O'Hare the other day, taking the Eisenhower in from the west. Twelve hours later they're reporting shooting on the Eisenhower.

WTG, Rahm.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM (eBsWa)

104 90 Man that is one big-ass rock on her finger. But agreed. Hot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:50 AM (p4UlV)

Well when you have big ass melons on your chest you get big ass rocks on your finger.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)

105 And it was violence incited by Commie Sanders and Move On. So say reports from sites other than Faux News.


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:20 AM

Soros cut the check last week. Contracts with Riots R Us on the Magnificent Mile!

Posted by: Lester at March 12, 2016 06:54 AM (2UPXV)

106 #288 in the Methodist hymnal-"Were you there when they crucified my Lord?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8bHyNrIhNM

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:55 AM (w4NZ8)

107 >>>One Week Sober edition [krakatoa]
How's it going?

Posted by: m at March 12, 2016 06:55 AM (S/1cF)

108 Soros cut the check last week. Contracts with Riots R Us on the Magnificent Mile!

Posted by: Lester at March 12, 2016 06:54 AM (2UPXV)

As long as you keep those riots north of I-74, I'm a happy camper.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 06:55 AM (WVsWD)

109 -Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 06:46 AM (eBsWa)

Saw your post on the ONT. I didn't think you were whiny; and waking-up at Two A.M. will take the starch out of anyone.

Having Ace hang-out and talk gaming, and the like, for a couple-a-hours was fun!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 06:55 AM (OQ9R7)

110 The main thing of the protest is it gets more publicity for Trump.
I think he's going to be on Fox and legs next.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (fizMZ)

111 Thank you Vic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (u82oZ)

112 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (u82oZ)

113 I really think Sanders himself would not authorize a disruption at a Trump event. Did MoveOn.org do it and are most of them Sanders supporters?-yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (w4NZ8)

114 I don't watch Headline News. I only found out about Robin Meade when I started watching Forensics Files at work. It's on after midnight for like 6 hours (with an hour of the awful Nancy Grace around 3am, which at that point I watch something else). I love Forensics Files and I'm not the only one. I read the FF has beaten CNN, in primetime, on several occasions. Has to be embarrassing since HLN is CNN. Anyway, there are commercials for RM. She is quite lovely. Were the same age but I actually look 47. A very frumpy 47.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (wKUFh)

115 I don't get on early to thank Vic for these great links, very often. So I'll thank you right now for a good perusal of news, Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 06:58 AM (OQ9R7)

116 100 J.J., how's the stomach this morning?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 12, 2016 06:52 AM (GUDMx)

Better, but not 100%. Just going to eat bland the next few days. That has helped before.

And thanks for axing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:58 AM (p4UlV)

117 No one needs to order a protest for leftists, they move like a large flock of birds

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:59 AM (fizMZ)

118 104 90 Man that is one big-ass rock on her finger. But agreed. Hot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:50 AM (p4UlV)

Well when you have big ass melons on your chest you get big ass rocks on your finger.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)


Are there no witty aphorisms the two of us can't conjure?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:00 AM (p4UlV)

119 "No one needs to order a protest for leftists, they move like a large flock of birds."
-Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:59 AM (fizMZ)

You mis-spelled "The Borg".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:00 AM (OQ9R7)

120 113
I really think Sanders himself would not authorize a disruption at a
Trump event. Did MoveOn.org do it and are most of them Sanders
supporters?-yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (w4NZ

It would not surprise me if he had his personal hands on it. Remember in his younger days he was known for crap like that. But if he did, he better have his tracks covered well because if Trump gets any proof at all Sanders will be in court, both for civil damages and criminal.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:00 AM (t2KH5)

121 Seconded.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 06:53 AM

I think he goes up. http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2 That is the poll I have been following for a few months for trend lines and Trump took off again starting on the 10th after the debate after sliding quite a bit. Even though I was a teenager in 1968, Chicago riots do not go down well with the rest of the country if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Lester at March 12, 2016 07:00 AM (2UPXV)

122 Just going to eat bland the next few days. That has helped before.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 06:58 AM (p4UlV)


So I guess mentioning the pastrami Reubens with homemade Russian I'm having later is not a good idea?

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (MjgAb)

123 Something tells me the November will be interesting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (ptqRm)

124 117 No one needs to order a protest for leftists, they move like a large flock of birds
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:59 AM (fizMZ)


I think they call it "Twitter" and texting. These vermin can be organized in an instant. Especially since they have no where else to be, like work etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (p4UlV)

125 I still can't cant believe that joker over at redstate telling people to carry guns at campaign events. WTH was he thinking? Good way to get your arrested and thrown in jail or even killed.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (WVsWD)

126 How well is Cleveland supplied with water cannon?
Their going to need quite a few.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (fizMZ)

127 TMZ says anonymous Santa Monica police sources are telling them Emerson's girlfriend found him, and that he had a single GSW to the head. Death is being investigated as a suicide; no foul play suspected.

TMZ also reports that Emerson had recently been suffering from depression and a degenerative nerve condition that hampered his keyboard playing abilities.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (df5V4)

128 Been getting up wide-awake as a hooty-owl at 2:00 AM lately. It's just the livestock and me now and the schedule is all discombobulated.

I kinda like it here in the middle of the night, though. Nobody's yelling.

Can't believe I read that whole damn ONT...even the gaming posts. I've never played an online game in my life.

Just FYI, I do a fair amount of blog-cruising and this one's actually far better than most of them as far as hostility is concerned.

And the ban hammer helps. Wise choice, Ace.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (eBsWa)

129 117
No one needs to order a protest for leftists, they move like a large flock of birds

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:59 AM (fizMZ)

In this case other sites were saying it was coordinated by commie Sanders and move on.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (t2KH5)

130 122 So I guess mentioning the pastrami Reubens with homemade Russian I'm having later is not a good idea?
Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (MjgAb)


Not if you want me to come find you!

**bitter grumbling/muttering**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (p4UlV)

131 J.J.

So it helped to stop eating the plastic tooth picks?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (ptqRm)

132 Good morning all!


From this date in 1944 - Anzio, Italy

Mar 12, 1944 - The EZ Dog Journal
Twenty planes (chased by Spits) came out of the clouds this morning. Two shot down by AA. Unknown number by the Spits. Bright sunny day turned to rain in night. Plans apparently have been changed again. Guess we'll never hit.



Those twenty planes probably were Flugzeugs. Good thing the Allies had Flugzeug abwehr Kanonen.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (NeFrd)

133 123 Something tells me the November will be interesting

They'll absolutely do this again during the Republican convention.

And they'll try it at the NRA convention in Louisville. I'll be at that one. Looking forward to it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:03 AM (qmMG2)

134 Posted by: Puddleglum at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (wKUFh)


I love Forensic Files, too. My only problem is that I've been watching the show for years and there are hundreds of episodes, but HLN keeps repeating the same ones over and over. Some of the older ones are on Netflix, though.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 12, 2016 07:04 AM (GUDMx)

135 "How well is Cleveland supplied with water cannon?
Their They're going to need quite a few.
"
-Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:01 AM (fizMZ)

We're good. An influx of Federal Funds, due to Kasich's compliance has made sure of that.

...pardon the correction. It's my "thing". You're not stupid, I'm just incorrigible.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:04 AM (OQ9R7)

136 Zip has a lot of updates about the Chicago protests.


http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=261238

Almost wish our zombie would have been there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 07:05 AM (ptqRm)

137 Oh I agree it's somewhat coordinated in that someone has to make the first call or text, but it doesn't have to be the leader. It's the tactic and they all know the drill.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:05 AM (fizMZ)

138
Keith Emerson, ELP "Hodeown" live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-gXxEByro

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:06 AM (p4UlV)

139 ...Not "incorrigible", per se, but Hell-bent on being a pedant.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:06 AM (OQ9R7)

140 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 06:56 AM (w4NZ

MoveOn would definitely do it. First they would hold a huge rally during which they would lie to the attendees about their "right" to disrupt the proceedings. They would hand out flyers and t-shirts. Then the masses would go out and do their bidding with religious fervor.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:06 AM (eBsWa)

141 Not if you want me to come find you!

**bitter grumbling/muttering**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:02 AM (p4UlV)


Sorry about that. The Russian came out good, though; I tasted it this morning to see if it needed any adjustments -- it didn't. I'm getting good at making Russian dressing for sammiches.

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 07:07 AM (MjgAb)

142 I never mind corrections, my brain goes way faster than my fingers which struggle to keep up.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:07 AM (fizMZ)

143 Anyway... we have trucks, hoses and water pressure to beat the band, as it were.

...for Democrats.

...by Democrats.

...poetic justice.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:08 AM (OQ9R7)

144 Think I'm going to shut down for the weekend. Just got enraged over Trump being blames for the riot and wanted to vent.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 12, 2016 07:09 AM (GUDMx)

145 Just pulled up the shades. Looks like a ice day coming. And the Bradford Pears are starting to bloom now. My street will be beautiful here in a few days when those and the azaleas are all in bloom.


This is my favorite time of the year. Got to make use of it before it gets too hot to sit out on the porch.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:09 AM (t2KH5)

146 The night Chicago died.....brother what a night it really was, brother what a fight it really was, glory be.

I heard my momma cry,
Tadadatadadatadada.....the night Chicago died.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2016 07:09 AM (ej1L0)

147 Ah but Slapweasel as we saw from Baltimore it takes will to use it.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (fizMZ)

148 Watching a youtube vid of ELP playing before 120,000 people (you read that right) at Rich Stadium (now Ralph Wilson Stadium) in my hometown of Buffalo, NY in 1974.

120,000 people. Rock Concerts ain't what they used to be.

Damn, that Modular Moog was HUGE. Moog's were made in nearby East Aurora, NY at that time. Bet Robert Moog was in attendance at that show.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (HMt16)

149 ice day = nice day

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (t2KH5)

150 Later, MPPPP. ...and Trump is not to blame for Chicago.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (OQ9R7)

151 133 And they'll try it at the NRA convention in Louisville. I'll be at that one. Looking forward to it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:03 AM (qmMG2)


Rioting? At an NRA convention? Typical. White leftists will fight to the last black stooge is mowed down. How very brave.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:12 AM (p4UlV)

152 Good morning horde! Long time, no post.

Posted by: Gran at March 12, 2016 07:12 AM (pZVlT)

153 138
Keith Emerson, ELP "Hodeown" live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-gXxEByro

"Hoedown" always makes me smile. You can "hear" the fun he had playing it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 07:12 AM (HMt16)

154 Oh I agree it's somewhat coordinated in that someone
has to make the first call or text, but it doesn't have to be the
leader. It's the tactic and they all know the drill.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:05 AM


The "leader" (whether Crazy Uncle Bernie or Shrillery) doesn't have to be involved, just as the heads of the Five Families weren't directly involved when they ordered hits. The buttons can run those gigs on their own.

Interesting people supporting the protests, though. Bombin' Billy Ayers, Choom Boy's BFF, was there, and a lot of the Twitter crap from alleged "journalists" sounded like they wanted to be in the front lines waving their anti-Trump banners.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 07:12 AM (WIZNc)

155 "Ah but Slapweasel as we saw from Baltimore it takes will to use it."
-Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (fizMZ)

Yeah... true. The Feds just came through here and reamed the police force. Same as Baltimore.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:13 AM (OQ9R7)

156 148 Watching a youtube vid of ELP playing before 120,000 people (you read that right) at Rich Stadium (now Ralph Wilson Stadium) in my hometown of Buffalo, NY in 1974.

120,000 people. Rock Concerts ain't what they used to be.

Damn, that Modular Moog was HUGE. Moog's were made in nearby East Aurora, NY at that time. Bet Robert Moog was in attendance at that show.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 07:10 AM (HMt16)

Emerson cobbled together a number of older versions into one giant Moog that took 4 roadies to move.

The spinning piano deal was nuts, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:13 AM (p4UlV)

157 There were some who tried to blame Trump but this Cruz guy isn't buying it. Trump has every right to hold a rally, hell just for the experience I'd go. But leftists learned from Seminary university's to disrupt you hold loud obnoxious protests blocking people from getting in and those in from getting out.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:13 AM (fizMZ)

158 153 "Hoedown" always makes me smile. You can "hear" the fun he had playing it.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 12, 2016 07:12 AM (HMt16)


If it was carpal tunnel, I can't even imagine the agony of not being able to do that with a keyboard anymore. Just sad on every level.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:15 AM (p4UlV)

159 Rioting? At an NRA convention? Typical. White leftists will fight to the last black stooge is mowed down. How very brave.

They'll try. We've already been having "spontaneous gathering of yoots" now and then.

JJ - I feel for ya' on the stomach thing. I've got a great sinus infection / flu going on right now. Awesome.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:16 AM (qmMG2)

160 The problem is if you follow conventional wisdom, is that if you let your enemies shut you down once, it will embolden them to keep doing it.

Where is his next event where it could happen again?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 07:16 AM (WVsWD)

161 157 Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:13 AM (fizMZ)

Huh? You no make'a no sense' a.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:17 AM (p4UlV)

162 Under any Republican will this crap of federal overreach stop?
Police forces get investigated by the feds and have to start working with a lawyer on their shoulders.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:17 AM (fizMZ)

163 While the violent shut-down of Trump rallies emboldens the left, I believe it also tends to fill some from the loosely defined Right with more resolve yet, and will drive more voters in the direction of Trump.

This does not end well either way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 07:19 AM (ptqRm)

164 162 Under any Republican will this crap of federal overreach stop?

Probably not ... because the public isn't ready for the alternative yet.

That alternative being letting Police and National Guard beat the holy shit out of one of these protest groups. Bruce and Buffy out in Upscale Suburbia ain't ready to see that on TV before dinner.

Not yet.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:19 AM (qmMG2)

165 Thanks for the links, Vic. Now I'm off to Starbucks, possibly in my pajamas. Woke up and there's no half-and-half in the house.

Posted by: iforgot at March 12, 2016 07:21 AM (5o5ek)

166 Ok JJ.
I don't blame Trump for last night at all.
Leftists have learned at University how to disrupt events. You see it in the hundreds of protests at them.

I need to put this away, I get going and start venting.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:21 AM (fizMZ)

167 'If it was carpal tunnel, I can't even imagine the agony of not being able to do that with a keyboard anymore. Just sad on every level.'

Zappa spent a lot of his last days in his studio with a Synclavier. He could program it to play his statisticly dense material perfectly. He didn't give up. I miss Frank and wonder what he would think of the shenanigans going on. He would not bow down to any PC crap.

Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:22 AM (BO/km)

168 Learned when I really started to drink coffee on a short sleep night on the flight line to drink it black.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:23 AM (fizMZ)

169 Great news day effort Vic. Thanks.

I'm beginning to think this guy Obama doesn't care much for limited government. Thank the lord above he is term limited, though he usually refuses to admit it, preferring instead to say he isn't running because his wife wants him to retire and play more golf. You know, get him out of the house and, finally, away from ESPN.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 07:25 AM (TxJGV)

170 I'm off to bed, daywalkers. Have to work mids later and need to get some sleep. I can't surf aimlessly at undisclosed location any more as the Big Boss's with pointy heads have spoken and said no more. So just sporadic posting the next 3 days. No, I don't work for the smoking man from The X-Files, though I wish I did. He was competent.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 12, 2016 07:25 AM (wKUFh)

171 As much as I cannot stand Donald Trump, (I've watched him and heard him for years and years), *spit* these riots were the product of "Progressive Shut-Down".

Their speech is "better". Anything from the Right-of-Center is hateful, and therefore not covered by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

*spits*

-Farrakhan's Orwell is a prophet that I think you aught-ta' listen to
-What he's telling you
-What you aught-ta-do

Turn it up!
Bring the Noise!

We need to change the lyrics to this. Politics is downstream of culture:

Anthrax,Metal + Public Enemy,Black Power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYcroAb12n8

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 07:25 AM (OQ9R7)

172 It's going to be a beautiful day here too Vic. The birds are singing, the sun is shining, and everything is turning green again. For today anyway every little thing's gonna be alright.

Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:25 AM (BO/km)

173 I thought there were going to be protests against Cruz and Rauner at some lunch they were having as well as the Trump rally at UIC. I haven't heard Cruz's remarks yet, but my heart sinks at the thought that he didn't immediately go after Move on and Bernie Sanders. Why shouldn't Trump have a rally in Chicago?

I have to learn more about all this. But, as usual, I can take shame for my hometown to the bank. Chicago, you're a beautiful, clap-ridden whore.

Posted by: Gem at March 12, 2016 07:26 AM (c+gwp)

174 166 Ok JJ.
I don't blame Trump for last night at all.
Leftists have learned at University how to disrupt events. You see it in the hundreds of protests at them.

I need to put this away, I get going and start venting.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:21 AM (fizMZ)


I don't either. It;s just that you wrote "There were some who tried to blame Trump but this Cruz guy isn't buying it." Cruz is blaming Trump, or at least "his tone."

You confused me there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2016 07:26 AM (p4UlV)

175 I missed the ONT link about FZ's house. Oh well. I could go on and on but I won't.

Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:27 AM (BO/km)

176 You confused me there.

I think Skip's saying that Skip (this Cruz guy) isn't buying it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:27 AM (qmMG2)

177 I understand people being so depressed that they commit suicide and it's very sad, but if you're going to do it it might be better to rent a hotel room (not that it's nice for them to clean up) or go out in the woods because I can't even imagine the trauma of finding your loved one dead of a self inflicted gunshot wound.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:29 AM (w4NZ8)

178 Seems like I missed an epic ONT last night. I was too exhausted for even a token scan at the time. On my way home from a friend's I discovered I'd managed to miss warnings that it was not only going to rain but RAIN. In remarkably little time it went from nothing to having to crawl down the street not to create twenty foot tall splashes from every depression in the road.

Then, after getting on the freeway, the car just died for no obvious reason. I had enough momentum to pull off to the right, fortunately being in the far right lane already. Then I got to stay there for a good hour, going through the nerve wracking experience of waiting for a speeding idiot to veer into the shoulder. It was amazing to note how many didn't have any lights on despite the poor visibility. If not for the rain I might have preferred waiting on the hillside along the freeway rather than in the car.

A tow truck from the Metro Patrol showed up, took me to the next exit and onto a surface street. No place nearby that might be able to fix the car and the patrol will only take you the minimal distance to get you off the freeway to a safe-ish location. At least it was near a cluster of fast food places, so I could get a long delayed late lunch.

It ended up being nearly six hours from the time the car died to when it was finally towed to the dealer nearest home and I could get a ride the rest of the way. Rush hour for some reason had become Rush Entire Evening, although the rain was long gone. It seemed like a perfect end to the day to have the tow take four or five times as long to cover the same distance I was attempting when the car died.

It could have been far worse but it really crapped on what had been an alright day up to that point.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 07:29 AM (IdCqF)

179 The Chicago Incident

Why isn't Ted Cruz giving us a lecture on the Constitution, NOW?

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""""Ted Cruz, second in delegates to Trump in the GOP race, said late Friday that the billionaire has created "an environment that encourages this sort of nasty discourse."

"When the candidate urges supporters to engage in physical violence, to punch people in the face, the predictable consequence of that is that is escalates," Cruz said. "Today is unlikely to be the last such incidence."""""

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I've been telling people, for years...

You wait... You listen...

Sooner, or later,

They'll tell on themselves, every time.

EVERY... G'DAMN... TIME.

He just let us know, he's on the side of the mob of fascist assholes when it suits his purposes, and the Constitution is just a stage prop.

Posted by: franksalterego at March 12, 2016 07:30 AM (Cd+Fa)

180 I expected a better reaction from Cruz about the violent protest. As Mr Constitution, he should have blasted the protesters, not Trump.
Where is his Voltaire spirit?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:30 AM (cbfNE)

181 Learned when I really started to drink coffee on a short sleep night on the flight line to drink it black.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:23 AM (fizMZ)

-----------------------

I used to drink it black. Now I'm in a hot foam phase.

Posted by: iforgot at March 12, 2016 07:31 AM (5o5ek)

182 Just noticed "The bannings have begun" post in the sidebar; If i were Ace I'd be fed up with a lot of stuff here too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:31 AM (w4NZ8)

183 I used to drink it black. Now I'm in a hot foam phase.

Posted by: iforgot at March 12, 2016 07:31 AM (5o5ek)


Marco C3PO Cuban coffee?

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 07:32 AM (MjgAb)

184 Goodness, epobirs,that sucked!
Hope today is much better for you.

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:33 AM (cbfNE)

185 FenelonSpoke, the ONT looked like Swiss cheese after the bannings started. Comment numbering was indecipherable. Great thread, all in all.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:33 AM (eBsWa)

186 Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:33 AM (eBsWa)

In a way I'm sorry that I missed it-Some of these folks I'd celebrate their departure.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:35 AM (w4NZ8)

187 Sorry, Epobirs. What a day!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:36 AM (w4NZ8)

188 Any regulars banned?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:36 AM (cbfNE)

189 In a way I'm sorry that I missed it-Some of these folks I'd celebrate their departure.

When Ace is in one of these moods, what in hell exactly makes you so sure you won't be departing yourself ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:37 AM (qmMG2)

190 ...morning morons. Also glad to see Ace broke out the ban hammer...it was ugly in here last night...

Posted by: billygoat at March 12, 2016 07:38 AM (INxoa)

191 You are right Fen that is a horrible thing to do to your family. It seems to me that doing yourself in for your family to find is some twisted way of getting back at them for some real or imagined reason.

Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:39 AM (BO/km)

192 Test to see if I'm still here.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2016 07:40 AM (JO9+V)

193 epobirs..

From your description of heavy rain, and partially flooded streets with water being flung upward, I would really look at the ignition side for water where it shouldn't be.

If there is a distributor cap, just a light moistening or dampness inside the cap will shut you down like you described..

Glad you're safe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 07:41 AM (ptqRm)

194 Is it safe?

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:42 AM (B48dK)

195 182
Just noticed "The bannings have begun" post in the sidebar; If i were Ace I'd be fed up with a lot of stuff here too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:31 AM (w4NZ

That was what my post at #21 was about.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:42 AM (t2KH5)

196 188
Any regulars banned?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:36 AM (cbfNE)
Not that I recall. At least none that matter.Cooth actually gets two exemptions before he's up for banning. Ace got magnanimous as the night wore on.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:42 AM (eBsWa)

197 Vic ... thanks as always for the links.

You'd make one hell of a neighbor.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:43 AM (qmMG2)

198 Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:37 AM (qmMG2)

Well, if I get banned it would free up a lot of time I spend here so it would be a plus in that sense :^), However, I I probably wouldn't be a PITA towards Ace or other people about my political views (I've been irritable, I haven't gone the "FU and the horse you rode in" on train or "All ________ supporters are evil morons" so I may be safe, but you're correct-Who knows? You're correct. However the banning post was addressed to "new people" I'm not new.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:44 AM (w4NZ8)

199 188
Any regulars banned?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:36 AM (cbfNE)


From what I understand they were all the normal election year trolls that show up every election at conservative sites to harass and interrupt the discourse.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:44 AM (t2KH5)

200 And i agree with, Vic. I think some of the new people are paid political operatives.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:45 AM (w4NZ8)

201 Has to happen every year or so,clears out the bad blood.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:46 AM (B48dK)

202 Went to bed early last night, woke up to screaming headlines about a Trump riot. Turns out it was actually a Bernie/BLM riot at a Trump event, but somehow it's the fault of Cruz. Gotta love headlines. Now I'll go read some of the actual articles, try to figure out what the hell happened.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2016 07:46 AM (2cS/G)

203 Ah,Nissan ads in Spanish.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:46 AM (B48dK)

204 Mornin'. Couldn't sleep last night. Watched the " In the Heart of the Sea" Moby Dick movie. Underwhelming to say the least. And Ron freakin Howard directed it? I won't ruin it for anyone, but... well.. The Whale did it, in the Library, with the rope.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 07:47 AM (e7T6D)

205 200 Yes,and Moby's.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:47 AM (B48dK)

206 Punk Chicago thugs do NOT endear me toward voting for their preferred candidate.
Feel the Bern?
"Get a shot and get rid of it," Navin Johnson's dad.

BTW: the Hag of Benghazi is even more a punk Chicago thug than Barky.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (sJuKe)

207 and thanks for the links Vic.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (e7T6D)

208 Well, if I get banned it would free up a lot of time I spend here so it would be a plus in that sense

Me too.

I've learned to just not talk to the Ewok. Easy enough for me to do, since I've never been a fan in the first place. I come here for the comments and the Horde.

I will say this ... with confidence ... Ace flat out can not tolerate effective opposition to his point of view. If you even check his argument with an effective counter - you're probably gone.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (qmMG2)

209 Who is blaming Cruz for the riot? I must have missed that.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (WVsWD)

210 204 Yeah,that thing sank quick at the box office.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:50 AM (B48dK)

211 I agree with you, Scoggdogg.

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:51 AM (cbfNE)

212 209
Who is blaming Cruz for the riot? I must have missed that.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (WVsWD)

I have seen any article that blamed Cruz. I have seen articles in the MFM that blamed Trump himself for "setting the tone". You have to go to sites like Weasel Zippers to find out where it really came from.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:51 AM (t2KH5)

213 Have NOT seen . . . damn.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:52 AM (t2KH5)

214 The Whale did it, in the Library, with the rope.

Great moments at the ScoggHouse ...

Ms. Scogg - Let's go see Titanic

ScoggDog - The ship sinks. Most everybody dies.

Ms. Scogg - You're such an asshole.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:52 AM (qmMG2)

215 Saw a tweet from Ayers bragging that they shut down Trump

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:53 AM (cbfNE)

216 I don't think Ace would ban people for having an opposing view. I think he might ban them if they combine an opposing view with the kinds of personally abusive comments some of these trolls have made about him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:53 AM (w4NZ8)

217 well I see Bill Ayers strategy hasn't changed since 1968. that got Nixon elected then.

thanks Obama's terrorist pal.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 07:54 AM (nFwvY)

218 If Cruz thinks his events are immune to these thugs because he sets a higher tone,well,let's just say he is mistaken.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:54 AM (B48dK)

219 @WilliamAyers

We shut Trump down! Beautiful gathering of anti racist youth. pic.twitter.com/uYOFXMvKhX
10:07pm - 11 Mar 16

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:54 AM (cbfNE)

220 I was being overly sardonic with the headlines "blaming Cruz" aspect. More like "criticizing Cruz", which I now realize is about his statement after the riot. I'm still reading the first batch of stories. They all have one thing in common, the emphasis is on everyone but the actual violent protesters.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2016 07:55 AM (2cS/G)

221 208 I will say this ... with confidence ... Ace flat out
can not tolerate effective opposition to his point of view. If you
even check his argument with an effective counter - you're probably
gone.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:48 AM (qmMG2)

I have been coming here for a long time and I don't recall ever seeing Ace ban anybody for simply disagreeing with him. I have disagreed with him on a number of occasions and have never been banned.

Now often times a disagreement will turn into a shouting match with invective flying back and forth and he will request that a "cool-it be done. If that is ignored and the shouting continues he will ban.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:55 AM (t2KH5)

222 I mentioned in a conversation at work that Black Lives Matter is basically a Communist front organization.

I was accused of being delusional and psychotic.

It's amazing that people think there are no Communists in the United States just because the media no longer uses the term.

We're living in Idiocracy.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2016 07:55 AM (Dttnn)

223 If Ayers fell down a manhole permanently I wouldn't be sorry. Great fellow-"just some guy in the neighborhood" who helped start Obama's campaign and ghost wrote his first book.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:55 AM (w4NZ8)

224 216 I don't think Ace would ban people for having an opposing view. I think he might ban them if they combine an opposing view with the kinds of personally abusive comments some of these trolls have made about him.

I got my first exercise in Alternative Screen Names for telling him directly that a vote for Mike Flynn would be another vote to keep John Boehner as Speaker of the House.

Said I was "calling him out", if memory serves.

And nobody uses personally abusive comments better than Ace. Seen him do it dozens of time. He's a great giver. Not much of a taker.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (qmMG2)

225 Vic,

I was sort of responding to @202. I'm not really keen on starting any kind of fight. Never have been.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (WVsWD)

226 219 Oh,there was a lot of that from a bunch of lefties.Instapundit rounded up some.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (B48dK)

227 Cruz is going to make a fine Supreme Court Justice, but he just doesn't have the instincts to be a politician.

Saying that Trump's "tone" contributed to violence is so fucking stupid. What votes was he going after with that remark? Rachael Maddow's?

Plus, Cruz can't handle a basic softball like "Do you believe the majority of Muslims hate the U.S.?"

The only answer to give if you want votes from 90% of Americans is "Of Course!".

Time for Cruz to make a deal and back out of this race before the GOP establishment screws both him and Trump.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (Zs4uk)

228 This is just not going to end well. Trump supporters are livid that he was shut down and the protestors are exultant at having prevailed. Neither faction is going to back off. It can only get worse.

Is it time to clean the guns?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (eBsWa)

229 Myself, husband and son casted our early vote for Trump in Florida this past week. When I went in to vote I was considering Senator Cruz too. After Thursday night's debate I was hoping for an eventual Trump/Cruz Republican ticket.
After Senator Cruz's comments last night accusing Trump of causing the violence at the rallies, neither me nor my family will ever support him for public office again. Given the chance.

Posted by: Martell at March 12, 2016 07:56 AM (hVlYo)

230 "208 I will say this ... with confidence ... Ace flat out
can not tolerate effective opposition to his point of view."

I've never seen that either, ScoggDog.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2016 07:57 AM (Dttnn)

231 I must be doing something wrong. I never get banned.

Posted by: Weasel at March 12, 2016 07:57 AM (e3bId)

232 Ayers bragged about it. Move On bragged... and some Bernie campaign folks bragged. Collusion. I was thinking Trump should sue, but he'd be accused of shutting down free speech and trashing the Constitution instead of trying to stop the cycle of radicals who collude to riot and get away with it over and over again.

Le sigh

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 07:58 AM (e7T6D)

233 It would be sort of interesting to see Trump's twitter feed towards Ayers if he sees Ayer's comment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:58 AM (w4NZ8)

234 180
I expected a better reaction from Cruz about the violent protest. As Mr
Constitution, he should have blasted the protesters, not Trump.

Where is his Voltaire spirit?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:30 AM (cbfNE)
very disappointed in him

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 12, 2016 07:59 AM (0O7c5)

235 Ace flat out
can not tolerate effective opposition to his point of view. If you
even check his argument with an effective counter - you're probably
gone.

Posted by: ScoggDog

I don't know who should be insulted more, ace or those of us not banned.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 07:59 AM (nFwvY)

236 The experience yesterday (17 is cause to reflect on how much easier some stuff has gotten in my lifetime, if you aren't desperately poor. I had a cell phone which gave me both voice and email communications, not to mention some games if I wasn't too worried about the battery. I also had my old Blackberry cell phone, that I use as an audio book player. Normally I cannot just sit and listen to an audio book because it proceeds at a fraction of my reading speed. Which is why I main;y listen to books while driving or certain other activities that need a distraction but a limited one.

Twenty years ago, in the same situation, I'd have had neither of those things to make it both easier to arrange rescue and pass the time. At best, I might have a book with me. If I'd been at all expecting to be waiting for a significant amount of time today, for whatever reason, I would have had my e-reader and mini-tablet along as well.

Larry Niven has a short story, 'Safe At Any Speed,' in which a far future traveler is flying along in his vehicle when it is eaten by a giant bird. He is safe inside the vehicle and the bird soon dies of the intestinal blockage. The traveler has to wait several months for the carcass to rot enough for him to get free and be spotted for rescue. (Some property of the bird's physiology blocked RF communication.) The vehicle had had not only kept him in perfect health, fed and clean, but also entertained. The one thing missing from the amenities is any means to keep his facial hair from growing out fully. He is told this was done intentionally by the manufacturer of the vehicle so that somebody who'd in a situation like his LOOKED like they needed rescuing.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 07:59 AM (IdCqF)

237 Trump is on Fox and legs,( Anna Kooiman's)

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:01 AM (fizMZ)

238 So, who got banned?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 08:01 AM (iQIUe)

239 Trump supports on the other hand had quite a few bad
apples, there were at least 3 different groups yelling 'N*****GS' at
groups of students, as well as 'go back to the middle east' and nicely
point out which way the crack house was.



All of these Trump groups were 35-45 year old men who looked out of
shape and disheveled. Frankly by not confronting them, this morning I
now feel weak.



Posted by: sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM (lNB0b)

...video...?

Posted by: billygoat at March 12, 2016 08:04 AM (INxoa)

240 News Journalists were comparing the protest last night to the '68' Democrat convention protesters.

They could have gone back further to the Haymarket riot in 1886 where the same political ideologies were involved. Attitudes haven't changed. Union Labor who were convicted are celebrated as martyrs for the cause of social justice while the seven policemen who were killed by the bomb are defenders of law and order.

The same dynamic is at play again, the same ideologies. Obama feeds the resentment and encourages the mob while the rest of us want the mob restrained. Fools blame Trump for the provocation, because challenging the mob escalates the confrontation.

So for peace and domestic tranquility, let us all just give the political left everything they want, and then we will have peace.

Posted by: Leon James at March 12, 2016 08:05 AM (hceVs)

241 Ace came back from dinner last night? Am I banned?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:05 AM (dFi94)

242 Guess not.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:05 AM (dFi94)

243 242 Ace wouldn't ban a grammie.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2016 08:06 AM (B48dK)

244 Posted by: sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM (lNB0b)

If you're a Trump supporter, why wouldn't you assume that people shouting racist epithets are not also Moveon.org supporters shouting stuff to make some Trump supporters look bad, I'm not even a Trump supporter and I think that's quite possible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:06 AM (w4NZ8)

245 "Trump supports on the other hand had quite a few bad apples, there were at least 3 different groups yelling 'N*****GS' at groups of students, as well as 'go back to the middle east' and nicely point out which way the crack house was.

All of these Trump groups were 35-45 year old men who looked out of shape and disheveled. Frankly by not confronting them, this morning I now feel weak."

Posted by: sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM (lNB0b)


Ace? Are you up early today?


Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:06 AM (Zs4uk)

246 Posted by: sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM (lNB0b)

So, what you are saying is every thing was fine and the bad guys were the Trump supporters? Get out of here.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 08:06 AM (iQIUe)

247 more like sleepysaul

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 08:07 AM (nFwvY)

248 Why would you be banned Grammie? You passing out bad Jello Salad recipes?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:07 AM (WVsWD)

249 "It's amazing that people think there are no Communists in the United States just because the media no longer uses the term. "

Sort of like "Long Pumpkin".

Apparently, the new progressive veggie-centric name for the food formerly known as Zucchini is Long Pumpkin.

And now, Zucchini no longer exists.
Gone
Banned
Not here

Sort of like how Democratic Socialist has displaced the term Communist.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:07 AM (ptqRm)

250 So

All the republicans have condemned Trump for the protests


Has Sanders condemned his supporters for rioting?


Move On.org was started by the Clinton's and their supporters


Has Clinton condemned the rioters?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (zOTsN)

251 A local OH judge has ordered that 17-year-old teens be allowed to vote in the OH Presidential Primary. State judges have no authority over federal elections and he has overstepped his bounds. Federal voting rules are covered by the Constitution, which specifies 18 years of age. This judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred. This obscene ruling was pushed by Commie Sanders and Move On who gets a lot of his support from unwashed teenagers.


http://tinyurl.com/z2nvg4f

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)



I saw the MFM was all aflutter over this. If we follow the law we're the bad guys if they break or make up the law they're heroes. What a messed up country we have

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (45oDG)

252 Why would you be banned Grammie? You passing out bad Jello Salad recipes?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:07 AM (WVsWD)
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Ya, this one had lutefisk in it.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (dFi94)

253 On Prager the other day one of Ben Shapiro's reasons for never Trump was that there are a lot of bad elements attaching to Trump and he isn't outwardly discouraging it.Ben said David Duke has sent him messages pro Trump.
I've written I don't blame any candidate for who follows them.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (fizMZ)

254 alinskyites gonna alinsky

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (nFwvY)

255 Ace turned me into a Newt.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (ptqRm)

256 You passing out bad Jello Salad recipes?

I hate Jello Salad ... but I bet Grammie makes a good one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (qmMG2)

257 239 sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM
No doubt you're a life long Republican who voted for Reagan 37 times and is concerned about the tone of Republican politics

Posted by: LeBron Horowitz at March 12, 2016 08:09 AM (9eQlp)

258 So shitstain Sanders has brought no-go zones to America? Maybe he's courting the Muslim vote.

In that case he should be bound hand and foot and parachuted into an ISIS camp. I haven't watched any of their videos, but I just might want to watch that.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 12, 2016 08:09 AM (B0X2V)

259 Lukefish? BAN IMMEDIATELY PLEASE!

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:09 AM (fizMZ)

260 #193

I suppose but does a 2002 Ford Explorer even have a distributor cap? Hmm, a search seems to indicate it does. I'd hope a vehicle of that sort were better protected from that issue than a pure street vehicle.

If so, it is a bit disappointing. Back in the early 90s, there was a deluge in the San Fernando Valley so bad some people got stuck in the area near the Sepulveda Dam and had to be rescued from the tops of their cars by helicopter. I wasn't too far away, on Haskell, driving an Escort and worrying the high water was going to kill the engine and leave me stuck and waiting to see if it started coming inside. Fortunately, it just kept going and I made it to the higher ground of Ventura Blvd., and made much of my way home to Thousand Oaks along that.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 08:10 AM (IdCqF)

261 Posted by: sleepysol at March 12, 2016 08:02 AM (lNB0b)


Those Trump supporters were probably the same people who showed up at Sarah Palin rallies.

Not the type you would meet at the Starbucks on the Upper East Side with a NY Times tucked crisply under their arm.

I'm so embarrassed.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:10 AM (Zs4uk)

262 sleepysol,.... nothing would have been gained confronting those idiots... except maybe you getting into a shoving match and that's no good. Sadly, Trump, or really, any candidate can attract folks that shouldn't be out and about in public... ie, some of the loons that come out for Paul, or the creepy-evangelical-side of some Cruz, Huckabee or whatz her name Congresswoman with the eyes that got pilloried last cycle.

Every campaign has odd followers. The press pick and choose who to ignore as outliers and who to claim are the base. We never heard much about the black panthers overwhelmingly supporting Obama and how that was concerning, did we?

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:11 AM (e7T6D)

263 I hate self correct, I need to stop typing and hitting post before carefully proofreading what "we "are writing.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:11 AM (fizMZ)

264 259 So shitstain Sanders has brought no-go zones to America? Maybe he's courting the Muslim vote.

In that case he should be bound hand and foot and parachuted into an ISIS camp. I haven't watched any of their videos, but I just might want to watch that.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 12, 2016 08:09 AM (B0X2V)


Shitstain Sanders has always been a political agitator. And has often participated in violent confrontation which is why this Chicago thing is unsurprising.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 08:12 AM (t2KH5)

265 People were stuck for a time in the UIC parking garage across the street from the Pavilion due to protesters blocking the street outside. Some inside the garage were frightened.

"The police, they don't seem to be doing anything to get anyone out of here, so everyone in the parking garage started to get weapons out of their car, they're ready to fight," said a caller named Cathy. "We're stuck in the garage. We haven't moved. We haven't been able to leave."





Just like in Europe, the politicians and cops won't stop the savages and people are going to start fighting back. And of course we'll be at fault for defending ourselves.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 08:13 AM (45oDG)

266 #251

Remember the flying toasters screen saver, back in the day when people bought screen saver software? Those were the people who started MoveOn.org, because they'd gotten rich off stuff you now barely give away.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 08:13 AM (IdCqF)

267 Somebody mentioned peppy Baptist hymns?


http://bit.ly/1cE9ZVG


Are You Washed In the Blood of the Lamb?


I grew up when you went to church Sunday mornings AND Sunday evenings, plus Wednesday night prayer meetings. Sunday night was mostly singing. I wouldn't mind going back to that. Good times. We all sang loud.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:13 AM (dFi94)

268 "Ace turned me into a Newt."
-Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (ptqRm)

I guess it is up to me.

...But you got better!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:14 AM (OQ9R7)

269
Sleepysol there were thousands of journalists there, who hate Trump, and they aren't reporting what you are reporting


As for Trump supporters being older and out of shape.

Please tell me what that has to do with anything. M


As for the "students" "blowing off steam", that's what David Dinkins once said

You remember him? He was mayor of NYC who let mobs of kids run wild to blow off steam. And then they killed a Jewish man for being jewish

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:14 AM (zOTsN)

270 "I'd hope a vehicle of that sort were better protected from that issue than a pure street vehicle."

Perhaps the watertight integrity that was there in 2002 has been degraded in the ensuing 14 years of exposure to heat and vibration. One drop of water in the wrong location can shut it all down.


Not saying that water is positively the cause.
Just saying that personal experience would suggest the possibility.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:14 AM (ptqRm)

271 My favorite ELP song, Lucky Man, a ballad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g1P_J40JA


I leafed through the two threads prior to the ONT and there were some serious assholes posting vitriolic personal attacks on ace;

I hope he banned them all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2016 08:15 AM (gyKtp)

272 I hate Jello Salad ... but I bet Grammie makes a good one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 08:08 AM (qmMG2)
=========================================

Not really. I'm a terrible cook. Completely uncomfortable with the concept of a recipe.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:15 AM (dFi94)

273 I'm equally skeptical of new posters who say "I'm a Trump supporter but some of the Trump supporters behaved like racists" as I am of the new posters who say, "I was planning to vote for Cruz but when i read what he said last night it negated anything I've ever read about what Cruz stands for. and now I'm going to vote for Trump."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:15 AM (w4NZ8)

274 "...But you got better!"

Actually....no.

Under ObamaCare, I have an appointment with a healthcare provider.

In August.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:17 AM (ptqRm)

275 Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2016 08:15 AM (gyKtp)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:15 AM (w4NZ



This past week on the HQ has been......entertaining.

Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2016 08:18 AM (HtUkt)

276 If Trump is going to split the party, I want him to walk away with the name "republicans".

Let the others who want a more gentle GOP be known as the Mewling Quims.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:18 AM (Zs4uk)

277 So like Saturday..... gah

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at March 12, 2016 08:19 AM (sqs5K)

278 "We all sang loud."
-Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 08:13 AM (dFi94)

Daddy sang bass, Momma sang tenor...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUP8oc9Bgs

We laughed and sang this along with Rainbow Stew by Merle Haggard!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:19 AM (OQ9R7)

279 Well I am out-a-here. Just too nice outside.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 08:21 AM (t2KH5)

280 And here's that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRDOrCFIY4c

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:21 AM (OQ9R7)

281 Just watched ELP's "Hoedown". Jeebus, that's insane! Thanks for the recs, 'rons.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 08:21 AM (eBsWa)

282 "Under ObamaCare, I have an appointment with a healthcare provider.

In August.
"
-Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:17 AM (ptqRm)

Dear Lord, I should have known better.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:22 AM (OQ9R7)

283 Later, Vic.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:22 AM (OQ9R7)

284 Ace flat out
can not tolerate effective opposition to his point of view. If you
even check his argument with an effective counter - you're probably
gone.
-------------------------------------------------------

And we have a WINNAH!

That is the silliest thing I'll read today.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 08:22 AM (TxJGV)

285 Okay, I feel like I've read enough accounts of last night to get a decent picture of what happened. The only people at blame are the shitbag protesters, but I'm sure we'll all hear how it's the fault of "the Right" in one form or another. (I saw some pics with cops, but no number of arrests, did anyone get locked up?)

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2016 08:22 AM (2cS/G)

286 Fox has story on VA dropping calls on suicide hotline, that is a horrifying.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:23 AM (fizMZ)

287 How do you get paid to be a political operative?. I think I could do this:

"I have never voted for a Democrat in my entire life, and I come from the great red state of_______ where the women are lovely and, the men manly . I am going to vote for_________, the only person who can save America because the other guy has _______ (insert physical features which bug you) which really turns me off and he's dishonest and he's a poseur, a poseur. I tell you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:23 AM (w4NZ8)

288 I love Jello Salad. Now I need to find some in Banana flavor that is sugar free.

Probably doesn't exist.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:23 AM (WVsWD)

289 Cruz is running 2nd. He has no choice but to throw a couple of 30-yarders. This one sailed out of bounds. I am a Cruz guy. I am an anti-establishment guy. I am more concerned with Hillary winning. I believe Cruz will follow the Constitution. I believe if Trump gets the nod, the Constitution will be rediscovered by the GOP-E.

If Hillary gets in, all bets are off.

At this point, Anyone but Hillary. With no reservations.

Posted by: jsg at March 12, 2016 08:23 AM (HEjH6)

290 Hell ... I really don't think it matters. Country's going off a cliff one way or another.

Good God ... now Fox has three Millennials one , dispensing their much needed insight. I've got to get my ass up and change the channel.

Later folks - gotta' run youngest Scogg to work, then go back to bed and see if I can sweat out this damn bug.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 08:25 AM (qmMG2)

291 It's 46 here which is freezing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 08:25 AM (iQIUe)

292 We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYY2FQHFwE

We like holdin' hands and "pitchin' woo"... LMAO!

...I haven't thrown a "WooBall" since 1987!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:25 AM (OQ9R7)

293 Grammie fed ace lutefisk for dinner?

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 08:26 AM (cbfNE)

294 My usual Saturday wrap up post on my blog

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 08:26 AM (cbfNE)

295 " Now I need to find some in Banana flavor that is sugar free. "


Can you go with pudding?
http://tinyurl.com/zkyz9fs

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:27 AM (ptqRm)

296 >>> It's 46 here which is freezing.

You got funny stuff in yer water.

Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 08:27 AM (2hcmo)

297 Five Years Ago ...


Today, the radiation at the Fukushima plant is still so powerful it has proven impossible to get into its bowels to find and remove the extremely dangerous blobs of melted fuel rods.

The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power has made some progress, such as removing hundreds of spent fuel roads in one damaged building. But the technology needed to establish the location of the melted fuel rods in the other three reactors at the plant has not been developed.

"It is extremely difficult to access the inside of the nuclear plant," Naohiro Masuda, Tepco's head of decommissioning said in an interview. "The biggest obstacle is the radiation."

The fuel rods melted through their containment vessels in the reactors, and no one knows exactly where they are now. This part of the plant is so dangerous to humans, Tepco has been developing robots, which can swim under water and negotiate obstacles in damaged tunnels and piping to search for the melted fuel rods.

But as soon as they get close to the reactors, the radiation destroys their wiring and renders them useless, causing long delays, Masuda said.

Posted by: Guccifer at March 12, 2016 08:27 AM (e8kgV)

298 I'm sure there were lots of arrests, but Chicago PD will likely not say, nor will the Tribune care to ask, nor will the Mayor demand to know. Memory hole, cause doesn't serve the interests of the Democrat machine. See, this is how it will be reported:

Trump racists KKK rally in Chicago draws protest! Read all about it! City bands together to force hate speech to flee. Story page 2. President Obama to release Federal disaster funds to city of Chicago to pay for clean-up at hate rally, estimated by city alderman, Cecil Jones to be a least 10 million ins walking around money clean-up funds and overtime for police.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:27 AM (e7T6D)

299 And now Yard work and the hell with politics for the day.

For my mental health. Thanks for the news links Vic. I don't comment a lot but I do read them. Your efforts are appreciated.

Posted by: jsg at March 12, 2016 08:28 AM (HEjH6)

300 You who ends up looking good after the Chicago protests last night?
Hillary effing Clinton.
She's now the voice of reason on the Dem side.

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 08:29 AM (cbfNE)

301 289" Cruz is running 2nd. He has no choice but to throw a couple of 30-yarders. This one sailed out of bounds..."


Probably the biggest asset Trump has is the belief by his supporters that he will fight for what is right. When Cruz adopted the MSNBC position, he lost significant ground.

I remember when McCain had his moment during the election run-up concerning whether he would support the bank bailout or not.

He failed just like this.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:29 AM (Zs4uk)

302 Make them Jap robots out of steel! Rosie O'Donnel nailed it.... fire can't melt steel, and nuke-core in water certainly can't be as hot as fire! Right?

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:30 AM (e7T6D)

303 People are really jumping the shark with the phrase "jumping the shark".

Posted by: Corpulent Caribou Nibbling on The Croquet Hoops at March 12, 2016 08:30 AM (XVjZ8)

304 -Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:27 AM (e7T6D)

Yup, Yip.

Yoop, Yurt, Ying, Yeng, Yarn.

Sorry. I couldn't stop.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:30 AM (OQ9R7)

305 Under ObamaCare, I have an appointment with a healthcare provider.
In August.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


*****


2017

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 08:31 AM (NeFrd)

306 Delray Whatevah, BLM activist/fuckhead and candidate for mayor of Baltimore, is currently polling there at 1% support.

Gee, that's too bad, RiotBoy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2016 08:31 AM (gyKtp)

307 I agree with you, jsg, but... sigh. Cruz handled this very badly. And this after I was on such a high from hearing Pastor Cruz on the radio the other day! Cruz should have called me, dammit. And I would have told him that sober reflection at the sad state of political discourse in this country over trying to score a cheap political shot would have been the way to go. Call me next time, Ted!

Posted by: Gem at March 12, 2016 08:31 AM (c+gwp)

308 >>> Sorry. I couldn't stop.

Good thing you eventually did.

I was going to yell.

Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 08:32 AM (2hcmo)

309 Or call your dad, FFS.

Posted by: Gem at March 12, 2016 08:32 AM (c+gwp)

310 One more thing...

I'll never forgive "Trump Apologists", even though he had very little to do with last night's Progressive, Anti-Speech bullshit.

You can all suck my cock, from the base, slowly and at a medium pace.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:34 AM (OQ9R7)

311 Did anyone actually get banned last night. Other than MUMR and raykon?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:34 AM (zOTsN)

312 Grammie, I grew up singing those songs. I only occasionally go to church now. Many churches have changed to some kind of "contemporary" music that just sucks, in my opinion.

I didn't realize how much those old hymns meant to me until I went to a service without them.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (Dttnn)

313 >>>The Army is not happy with the current way a replacement pistol procurement process is running.


The soldiers know what they want, but the bureaucrats must meet their quota of wasted time.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (ppaKI)

314 I'm guessing that the AP would not be considered a right wing news organization.

But their article about Chicago last night has about 10,000 comments.

If one were interested in taking the pulse of the crowd so to speak.

http://bigstory.ap.org/node/12685590

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (ptqRm)

315 I'm not seeing how Cruz or anyone else can be completely faulted for taking issue with Trump here.

If Obama is to be faulted for telling his followers to get up in people's faces and to punch back twice as hard, how is it any different that Trump (or anyone on "our side") do it? If it's wrong, it's wrong no matter who does it.

If, on the other hand, we're truly on the other side where it's time we adopt their tactics -- all of them -- then at least come out and say that's exactly what you're doing so no one is confused or can misinterpret you. Explain why you said it. Cite the damn precedent from the President and run with it.

Posted by: doomed at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (bGLSw)

316 Fox has story on VA dropping calls on suicide hotline, that is a horrifying.
Posted by: Skip


*****


"In order to keep waiting times on-hold within mandated guidelines we are no longer accepting new callers to the queue."

I actually got that message once when I called the Colo. Dept. of Revenue. The VA has a history of manipulating wait times.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (NeFrd)

317 ...and get your shinebox -or- make me a sammich.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:35 AM (OQ9R7)

318 The picture on drudge of the guy with the torn trump sign, he looks like he MIGHT be leading a Trump cheer like fireman ed, GIMME A T, GIMME AN R,..........

Posted by: Smartucus at March 12, 2016 08:37 AM (pHVJG)

319 It's 46 here which is freezing.


*****


?????


So the laws of physics cease to apply at your location?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 08:37 AM (NeFrd)

320 I narrate Forensic Files. Proud member of Greatest Generation. You've heard my voice for decades & hopefully will for many years to come. No one says 'grim discovery' like I do.

Posted by: Peter Thomas at March 12, 2016 08:38 AM (gwG9s)

321 Hillary never looks good to me. For all I know her people could have sent operatives to Chicago to pretend to be Bernie supporters behaving badly so that she can look good in comparison.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:38 AM (w4NZ8)

322 I dont think DeRay had any connection to Baltimore. Why he thought he could run for office there beats me. But running for office means people will give you money. These BLMs got enough money for them to live on for a couple of years and some even jobs being professional assholes with a paycheck. But most thought the gravy train was going to last forever.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 08:39 AM (iQIUe)

323 Dammit! The other day one of the threads contained a reference to an 'ette who lost her mother recently and a touching tribute. Can someone point me to that post?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 08:40 AM (eBsWa)

324 Oh... and I'm LOVING the fact that Ace is "Warming-Up the Bannings!"

Between he and Maet, this is going to be a sweet, sweet time to be alive.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:40 AM (OQ9R7)

325 Don't forget that Move On is a Clinton creation


Someone should hang this around her neck

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:40 AM (zOTsN)

326 VIA,

Been looking for Banana Flavored Jello. I don't think anyone makes it. Can't find it in any of the local grocery stores.

Pudding is just not the same. Who puts chunks of Strawberries in Pudding?

Ewww.....yuck....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:41 AM (WVsWD)

327 Banana Jell-O doesn't exist.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:42 AM (OQ9R7)

328 I am not sure if I want the election to be over, or will it be worse then?

Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2016 08:42 AM (1SCTq)

329 324 Oh... and I'm LOVING the fact that Ace is "Warming-Up the Bannings!"

Between he and Maet, this is going to be a sweet, sweet time to be alive.
Posted by: Slapweasel,

the lack of self awareness is awesome

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 08:42 AM (nFwvY)

330 327 Banana Jell-O doesn't exist.


It will when Trump is President!

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (Zs4uk)

331 That riot will do for Trump what '68 Chicago riots did for Nixon. ... and really, we all know already... there will be more of these riots... they'll start busing them in for them like they did in Wisconsin. The blood is in the water.

Cleveland is going to be a shit-show, no doubt.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (e7T6D)

332 Banana Jell-O doesn't exist.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:42 AM (OQ9R7)

I didn't think so. No luck finding any online either.

I has a sadz...

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (WVsWD)

333 Seriously. Besides MUMR and Raykon, who were already banned, who got banned?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (zOTsN)

334 Morning my pretty-pretties. This Spring air is making me giddy, like drinking wine. I'm going to enjoy every molecule before it turns into nasty and humid Summer.

I'm grooving on ELP and reading the ONT. I had no idea that the crazy MUMR word salad haiku was just Mirror Universe Maet messing with us! No wonder it was so funny.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (jR7Wy)

335 "the lack of self awareness is awesome."
-Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 08:42 AM (nFwvY)

Silly poster. Tricks are for kids!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (OQ9R7)

336 I read Cruz's comment, I don't see anything wrong with what he said. If the roles were reversed, you better believe that Trump would be making this all about Cruz.

Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (nyYhO)

337 321 Hillary never looks good to me. For all I know her people could have sent operatives to Chicago to pretend to be Bernie supporters behaving badly so that she can look good in comparison.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:38 AM (w4NZ

--
Agreed, but, remember, on the Dem side, peon thoughts don't matter.
It makes her look good to the Dem donors and party heads.

Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (cbfNE)

338 Everything that happened yesterday was orchestrated. When Dr. Carson endorsed Trump they started talking to him about the violence surrounding Trump. Playing the punch in the face and the reporters arm. It was on all stations and then the rally. People bought to cause trouble. It's sickening. I was for Cruz, but he is in with the Bush's now as are Kasich and Rubio. Meet with Jeb on Thursday by Friday all out war on Trump, and they don't care who they hurt. Just keep the power and money.

Posted by: tops at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (p5xLT)

339 It will when Trump is President!

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (Zs4uk)

I only fear that Trump will E.D. the Banana Jello Factory right before it starts production and turn it into a Casino.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:45 AM (WVsWD)

340 *Puts five bucks on 23 Yellow*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:45 AM (OQ9R7)

341 I won't name names but there are a couple of people missing that would normally have already been at it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:46 AM (WVsWD)

342 323 an 'ette who lost her mother recently and a touching tribute

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2016/03/10/waxing-philosophical/

Is this it?

Posted by: m at March 12, 2016 08:46 AM (S/1cF)

343 -Posted by: m at March 12, 2016 08:46 AM (S/1cF)

That had to be it. Thank you, m.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:47 AM (OQ9R7)

344 m...

Yes! Thank you.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 08:47 AM (eBsWa)

345 Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 08:43 AM (zOTsN)

I think new posters, ThunderB, who insult ace and then say "I'm leaving now never to return."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:48 AM (w4NZ8)

346 Amazon has four brands of strawberry-banana gelatin, one of which is Jell-O.

Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 08:49 AM (2hcmo)

347 336

Yep. We've reached the point where Trump is to his followers what Obama once was to his: a demigod who, if questioned or doubted for any reason, serves only to reveal YOUR sin. That is what always happens when people repeat the error described in Jeremiah 17:5:

"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength..."

Posted by: doomed at March 12, 2016 08:50 AM (bGLSw)

348 @297 Guccifer.. I find it odd, that with that meltdown and uncontrolled melt to the rocks meltdown.... the eco-weenies and climate-change crowd is so worried about the earth... but the never seem to protest Japan or Japanese Cars to stop nuke pollution... or demand everyone stop eating sushi or Pacific fishes..

Cause they can't milk any money out of any of the above, nor can they force new regulations on Americans, so.. it's just another big non-story.

Oh, but 500,000 penguins maybe died from an iceberg because of America and climate change, but mostly because of my lightbulbs and we must give Elon Musk moar Federal money for electric cars and a high-speed mono-rail that will run from Scranton to Gary, Indiana.

heh,,, I kinda got worked up there

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:50 AM (e7T6D)

349 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is no longer planning a campaign rally in Cincinnati on Sunday, Cincinnati.com reported late Friday.

Trump's Secret Service team won t be able to complete security prep work at the venue in time for the event, the report said.




The savages won't stop until they're stopped.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 08:50 AM (45oDG)

350 I read Cruz's comment, I don't see anything wrong
with what he said. If the roles were reversed, you better believe that
Trump would be making this all about Cruz.

Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM


So because you think Trump would have behaved stupidly, it's okay for Rafael to go ahead and mouth off like an uninformed slimy political-hack shitweasel?

Okay. Whatever floats your boat....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 08:50 AM (WIZNc)

351 Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (nyYhO)

Surely you jest. Mild mannered Trump, so cool that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth-not a combative streak in his entire body?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:51 AM (w4NZ8)

352 I was there all night and I didn't see any 'Name' bannings.

Somebody said something about "many posts" going away, but I was too busy talking with Gaming Morons to notice.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:51 AM (OQ9R7)

353 Did you look for recipes for banana jello?

Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (xVgrA)

354 I used to drink it black. Now I'm in a hot foam phase.

Posted by: iforgot at March 12, 2016 07:31 AM (5o5ek)

Sounds like a Rubio kind of thing.

Posted by: 7Mike at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (pxwEr)

355 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 07:55 AM (t2KH5)

I always think Ace's threshold is when principled logical disagreement descends into the gutter of personal vicious attacks, so as far as I am concerned he can wield that ban-hammer like a knife and this will still be the most interesting blog I have yet found!


Pssst Ace, the address for my check is in my nic!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (wYnyS)

356 I can't believe it, but I actually have a window open this morning. Cool, but still very welcome.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (TxJGV)

357 "Pudding is just not the same. Who puts chunks of Strawberries in Pudding?

Ewww.....yuck.... "


Really...?


The first time Mrs VIA and I ever met Weird Dave, Gingy, SpyPeach and DC (Formerly from Towson), I had to explain to the lovely and fetching Mrs VIA why exactly I needed to take a six pack of Pudding to meet some people who I have never laid eyes on before, at a restaurant.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:53 AM (ptqRm)

358 "Did you look for recipes for banana jello?"
-Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (xVgrA)

Gelatin + bananas might be too rich for some blood.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:54 AM (OQ9R7)

359 My fifteen minutes are up? But I have an owie! At least let me do the Sunday morning shows. I bought a neck brace!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 12, 2016 08:54 AM (gwG9s)

360 Rubio speaking...

"Everyone is responsible for what happened in Chicago..."

Fucking idiot.

No, the Trump supporters who wanted to hear him speak and showed up at a scheduled rally weren't responsible for any violence.

The fact you can't understand that is why you won't get past single digits in the upcoming primaries.

Trump University needs to reopen just to train our politicians how to talk.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 08:54 AM (Zs4uk)

361 Posted by: RobM1981 at March 12, 2016 06:41 AM (zurJC)

So blessed that given the enormous amount of truly terrible song-writing (I won't say hymnody) coming out of our Church in the last 50 years, the only English sung at our Mass is old stuff from old hymnals for the processional and recessional.

Everything else is in Latin, even the anthem selections for the kid's choir. They do a "Jubilate Deo" that everyone loves and always request. I'm smiling just thinking about it.

Posted by: Sal at March 12, 2016 08:54 AM (MRX6w)

362 (gwG9s)

This douche won't last the weekend.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:55 AM (OQ9R7)

363 Well, at least there's banana pudding!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:56 AM (xVgrA)

364 The savages won't stop until they're stopped.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 08:50 AM (45oDG)


The savages progressives won't stop until they're stopped.

First, they effectively take away the First Amendment.

Second, they effectively take away the Second Amendment.

Third, they actually take away everything else.

Fourth, PROFIT!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 08:56 AM (wYnyS)

365 Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:52 AM (xVgrA)

That's the next step.

Not really all that important. I'll just make do with the Strawberry Jello with small chunks of Banana in them.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (WVsWD)

366 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:53 AM (ptqRm)

Well played, that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (wYnyS)

367 I had to explain to the lovely and fetching Mrs VIA
why exactly I needed to take a six pack of Pudding to meet some people
who I have never laid eyes on before, at a restaurant.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 08:53 AM (ptqRm)


Oh, thank you. I needed that laugh.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (eBsWa)

368 "You can all suck my cock, from the base, slowly and at a medium pace."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:34 AM (OQ9R7)

So to clarify, this is acceptable? Or is this only permitted for use by some.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (WnCSK)

369 "Well, at least there's banana pudding!"
-Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:56 AM (xVgrA)

Agreed.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (OQ9R7)

370 From the AP, Trump hits two Ohio events today followed by... dun, dun, dun... Kansas freaking City tonight.

Can MoveON, Bernie and BLM scrum up some Saturday riots? I'm thinking they'll surely try. I'll be sads if we don't see some awesome highway blocking at least, right? Surely in Kansas City... The butthurt college kids at Missu are only a hour and a half drive away..

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:58 AM (e7T6D)

371 "So to clarify, this is acceptable? Or is this only permitted for use by some."
-Posted by: Skeezix at March 12, 2016 08:57 AM (WnCSK)

For use by some.

...at a medium pace.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:58 AM (OQ9R7)

372 Your shinebox is Over There---->

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 08:59 AM (OQ9R7)

373 Besides, only icky Lutherans eat jello, right? The more refined people eat pudding! Amirite??

Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 08:59 AM (xVgrA)

374 Mornin' 'rons. Did anyone setup a GoFundMe for Krak yet?

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (bA+CL)

375 I always think Ace's threshold is when principled logical disagreement descends into the gutter of personal vicious attacks, so as far as I am concerned he can wield that ban-hammer like a knife and this will still be the most interesting blog I have yet found!
Posted by: Hrothgar

interesting theory, but apparently slapweasel gets to tell people to suck his cock without repercussion, so there must be a different formula.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (nFwvY)

376 Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:58 AM (e7T6D)




See my post at #349. Trump has canceled his Cincinnati event.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (45oDG)

377 Made the mistake of getting on FB this morning and seeing posts from some of my lib "friends" who thought last nights riot was just peachy keen. Now my blood is boiling and I'm in a bad mood. Fuckers.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2016 09:01 AM (CNHr1)

378 375 x

But it's slapweasel.

Cue the music from Shaft.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 09:01 AM (u82oZ)

379 Obama buddy and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was seen protesting Donald Trump in Chicago today.




Oh for the days of the 1968 cops to crack some commie scumbag skulls.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (45oDG)

380 Well, it stopped raining here so off to clean up outside before it gets too hot. Ciao, baby!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (xVgrA)

381 The butthurt college kids at Missu are only a hour and a half drive away..


Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:58 AM


The Chicago-to-KC buses are probably loading even as we speak....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (WIZNc)

382 I think new posters, ThunderB, who insult ace and then say "I'm leaving now never to return."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 08:48 AM (w4NZ

I view the ban hammer as "contract" enforcement in cases like this, since it takes you at your word and helps you be consistent!

I wish all the fancy types that are threatening to leave the country if candidate X is elected would sign enforceable contracts to live up to their "threats"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (wYnyS)

383 My flight instinct is kicking in big-time.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (eBsWa)

384 ..."interesting theory, but apparently slapweasel gets to tell people to suck his cock without repercussion, so there must be a different formula."
-Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (nFwvY)

-When did you get here and how many people have you helped?

-Can I help you? Because I will do what I can, Sir.

-This is NOT the ONT.

-Please refrain from taunting the elders.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:02 AM (OQ9R7)

385 AP said today was Dayton and Cleveland and Kansas City.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:03 AM (e7T6D)

386 interesting theory, but apparently slapweasel gets to tell people to suck his cock without repercussion, so there must be a different formula.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (nFwvY)



You're new here, right?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 09:03 AM (wYnyS)

387 Hey, howdy, y'all.

I'm only about 1/2-way through reading the comments, but have to ask.

About the canceled Trump rally in Chicago, folks have commented about what Rubio and Cruz said about it, but I didn't see quote or link to what they said. What did they say?

I read the whole ABC7 article someone linked about the thing. Does sound like it was already going out of control. "The police, they don't seem to be doing anything to get anyone out of here, so everyone in the parking garage started to get weapons out of their car, they're ready to fight," said a caller....

This is going to be a long (checks JJ's countdown) 241 days!

The protesters planning to disrupt the rally in the name of diversity and (as one gal said) "love" is really the height of hypocrisy - typical. I'd say what I think these guys seem like but I hate to go Godwin this early in the morning.

Posted by: mindful webworker - time enough at March 12, 2016 09:03 AM (l/Pix)

388 Work just got cancelled, so I have a nice, seventy-ish degree day all to myself. Gonna hit the dog park for a couple hours. grill up some lunch, then go spectate at the Wake Forest/Clemson baseball game (I need another Will Craig homerun ball, my dog destroyed the last one). Nice little Saturday.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2016 09:04 AM (2cS/G)

389 My Twitter feed (I follow both Cruz and Trump supporters) seems to indicate, people fleeing Cruz to Trump in droves.

Cruz would have been much better off, defending the First Amendment before uttering his political hogwash, agreeing almost word for word with Hillary and Sanders.

So much for Political Astuteness

Posted by: franksalterego at March 12, 2016 09:04 AM (Cd+Fa)

390

Greetings Hordelings.

Thanks, but there's already enough fresh hell today.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:04 AM (LUgeY)

391 If anyone can spare good wishes my two daughters are off on trips today, one to Ireland and the other to South Africa. Nobody gets married anymore, they just head off with their boyfriends to some foreign damn place on $25/day. What the hell is going on? Who raised these kids? I'm going to be in a foul mood about this. Fucking Africa. What's wrong with visiting Montana, like a normal person?

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 09:05 AM (TxJGV)

392 I think these riots are going to backfire, and not on Trump.


Ordinary apolitical people don't cheer that sort of thing

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 09:05 AM (zOTsN)

393 I will write a Baseball Thread right around his ass, if he likes.

*threat*

Not much of one, I know. So there's that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:06 AM (OQ9R7)

394 Morning, everyone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 12, 2016 09:06 AM (AroJD)

395 " Gonna hit the dog park for a couple hours."

Looking for something Free-Range for the grill?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:06 AM (ptqRm)

396 Good morning all. Seems like Chicago is up to its old tricks again. For a lot of people, the '68 was a high point. They have dined out on various stories (like Ayers, Dohrn, etc) for years. I find this seriously creepy. It is like they have all romanticized the ancient past and don't realize that extreme rhetoric and extreme reactions go together. Raise that power fist and fight against some kind of oppression.

Bleah.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 09:06 AM (MIKMs)

397 Good morning, dears.

Didn't get much rain for the last two day, for which I'm very thankful.

Problem is that the rivers, lakes and bayous are still rising.

Last summer, the Red flooded and water went into the 12 Mile Bayou in Shreveport, causing damage to some neighborhoods.

Now...eesh.

The Red, the 12 Mile Bayou, and a connected lake are all rising and will each flood.

Not good.

The river and bayou on the other side of us are also flooding.

I think we'll be okay here.

We'll see how much rain we get today.

I appreciate you all listening and praying and not throwing heavy objects!

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:07 AM (nXeSu)

398 G'Morning, Beckoning Chasm.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:07 AM (OQ9R7)

399 I really don't think it will change anyone's mind. The Trump supporters will continue to support Trump. The Cruz supporters will continue to support Cruz and some political operatives will come on saying ,"This means everyone is now flocking to Trump."

Because shouting about how you hate the other guy really convinces people to change their vote. Truly Really. Absolutely

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:07 AM (w4NZ8)

400 Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:07 AM (nXeSu)

Why would we throw heavy objects? You're a dear person, and I'm glad to hear the updates and glad to (continue to )pray.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (w4NZ8)

401 I swear, Zip finds the strangest stuff wut falls out of Obama's head.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=261295

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (ptqRm)

402 Mama AJ, write these numbers down:

300 cubits x 50 cubits x 30 cubits

Posted by: Noah at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (eBsWa)

403

I'm still bummed about Keith Emerson. I mean, I know no one lives forever, but come on, man. Suicide? He was still a rock music giant and could've taught, lectured or spoken to inspire other musicians. He's probably forgotten more about music than most people will ever know.

RIP, Keith. You made my formative years a lot of fun with your music. Thank you.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (LUgeY)

404 ..."I appreciate you all listening and praying and not throwing heavy objects!"
-Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:07 AM (nXeSu)

Prayers sent, Mama AJ! Good tides and tidings, ma'am.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:10 AM (OQ9R7)

405 MW

https://youtu.be/pmxBp4IFe_I

Better to hear it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 09:10 AM (WVsWD)

406 Cruz, Rubio and Kasich ... all three of them said the same thing.... Trump created this environment ...

I can't find Rubio's in print... he said it on air with Megyn K last night... we know Cruz's... and I think WZ has Kasich's statement screen captured. Not too good... they all basically agree that Trump's riot problem is because of his crowds and what he's saying to them. Treehouse also has a lot on the statements.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:11 AM (e7T6D)

407 397 Mama AJ

I have my GoreTex parka on and am ready for any crying on my shoulder.

Best wishes for good percolation values in your soil.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 09:11 AM (u82oZ)

408 >>Good morning horde! Long time, no post.
Posted by: Gran at


*waves*

S'up?

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:11 AM (nXeSu)

409 -Please refrain from taunting the elders.
Posted by: Slapweasel

I've been here since before there were cobs. ban away if you like. you still won't be interesting.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (nFwvY)

410 Be careful and stay dry Mamma.

Maybe consider building that Ark that Noah just gave you the dimensions for.

I'm guessing that shortly, snakes trying to avoid the rising waters will become an issue in some areas.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (ptqRm)

411 Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 09:05 AM (TxJGV)

I will keep your daughters in prayer. I have a son who is going to Europe with his school orchestra and choir in about two weeks so travel at this time is a concern.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (w4NZ8)

412 What's a cubit?

I used to know...

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (nXeSu)

413 Prayer sent Mama AJ.

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (zOTsN)

414 Good morning, horde.
I seem to sleep so much better with the windows open.
Damn, but I do love spring.

Posted by: Chi at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (Ql/gh)

415 I have to say I'm really disappointed in Cruz' response to the Democrat Brown Shirts shutting down Trumps's rally.

For common sense reasons if nothing else-

if you legitimize violence used against a rival now, no matter how finely parsed (see the actual statement)-

then what will you say when the violence is used against you, and it will be, for the same justification.

Remember, for these Brown Shirts, "violence" against them which requires a violent physical response, is free speech and opinions with which they don't agree.

For a Constitutional guy, you are de-legitimizing free speech, again- however finely parsed.

Severely disappointed.

Cruz may have just lost my primary vote.

I'll have to think about this.

however, I'll give him the Trumpian-24 hour Walkback

and see if common sense comes to him.


Without the 1st and 2nd Amendments, America is dead.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 09:12 AM (2rmvw)

416 I still support Cruz but it's kind of dumb to say Trump's "tone" is somehow connected to the violence.

--

Geez, that is a stupid thing to say. Leftist violence is just that. And it's a well-worn tactic. I highly doubt Trump's bluster and "tone" had anything to do with this.

This is the second stupid thing Cruz has said in the last week. Calling out Trump's supporters as low info was truly stepping on his own wang. Way to win over Trump's supporters. He should've known better, even though I get what he was trying to say.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 12, 2016 09:13 AM (pVkEV)

417 That's still funny, despite the stuff I'm not going to think about.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:13 AM (nXeSu)

418 " What's a cubit? "

Housing unit for Hobbits?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:13 AM (ptqRm)

419 Best wishes for a dryin' out Mama AJ. Hang in there. I've seen some of the pictures... so sad.. I hate flooding... it's so depressing and lots of hard work to clean up.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (e7T6D)

420 Obama on searches and seizures, from his pre-golf SXSW interview:

"I anguish a lot over decisions we make to keep the country safe," Obama said. "I would caution against taking an absolutist perspective."

In other words, screw the fourth amendment. Only absolutists will care.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (TxJGV)

421 I wish Trump had decided to not cancel the rally. As I've said, Trump is bold but he is not courageous.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (MNgU2)

422 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (ptqRm)

Best comment from yesterday, don't know who, was that a pizza order requires ID, but an ID is too hard for voters to manage!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (wYnyS)

423 A cubit is the length of a man's arm from fingertips to elbow.

Posted by: Noah at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (eBsWa)

424

Cruz, Rubio and Kasich ... all three of them said the same thing.... Trump created this environment ...


Bullshit. TFP did with all his hateful rhetoric these past seven years. It sure is funny how the MFM can't seem to recall his statements about bringing a gun to a knife fight and punching back twice as hard and punishing his enemies. They'da had a cow if a Repumpkin had said those divisive words.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (LUgeY)

425 Perhaps if Rubio appeared on Reverend Al's MSNBC show and personally apologized for all republicans, it would help ease race relations throughout the country.

Cruz could do a joint Rose Garden press conference with Obama to denounce the KKK wing of the Republican party and to let people know that, although the vast majority of conservatives are racist, violence isn't tolerated.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (Zs4uk)

426 I'm not an alcoholic too! I just like a little soother juice throughout the day. And olives are brain food! So shut up stupid face know it all!!!!

Posted by: Hillary 2016 at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (gwG9s)

427 What's a cubit?


****


Little cherub with a bow and arrow. Comes out around Valentine's Day.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (NeFrd)

428 Who left that moldy sock on this ark!?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 09:15 AM (eBsWa)

429 Floatin' mounds of fire ants.... no thanks!

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:15 AM (e7T6D)

430
I'm still bummed about Keith Emerson. I mean, I know no one lives forever, but come on, man. Suicide? He was still a rock music giant and could've taught, lectured or spoken to inspire other musicians. He's probably forgotten more about music than most people will ever know.

RIP, Keith. You made my formative years a lot of fun with your music. Thank you.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:09 AM (LUgeY)

================
I wouldnt assume that the only reason, if that, he killed himself was bc of carpel tunnel. Old age has an effect on your thoughts. Also in the mix is that so many people you know have already died.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 09:15 AM (iQIUe)

431 And from the lighter side of life...

Bad parental texting.

http://tinyurl.com/jtdq4tl

(Single page option at the bottom works best)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:16 AM (ptqRm)

432 As a woman with 3 kids and a husband, I'm quite practiced at glaring at a couple people while smiling nicely at others.

Just sayin.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:16 AM (nXeSu)

433 "What's a cubit? "

Battlestar Galactica money. You can exchange it 11-1 for Quatloos.

Then you can bet on the guy with the toupee.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 09:17 AM (WVsWD)

434 "What's a cubit?"

-Little cherub with a bow and arrow. Comes out around Valentine's Day.

-Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM (NeFrd)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:18 AM (OQ9R7)

435 #423

Right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgsFCyD4nEw

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 09:18 AM (IdCqF)

436 Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 12, 2016 09:13 AM (pVk

did you know that Trump criticized Pam Geller for holding rallies? If not , you may be a low information voter.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:18 AM (MNgU2)

437 386 interesting theory, but apparently slapweasel gets to tell people to suck his cock without repercussion, so there must be a different formula.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:00 AM (nFwvY)


You're new here, right?
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 12, 2016 09:03 AM (wYnyS)
----
There's always blowback to percussive cock-sucking. Proceed with extreme caution.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 09:18 AM (jR7Wy)

438 Turbulent storms are headed our way. Get in the ark while the opportunity is still available to you.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 09:18 AM (dFi94)

439

Cruz may have just lost my primary vote.


Mine too. He really needs to start pedaling backwards just as fast as he can.

Why is it so seemingly difficult to actually place the blame for that protest where it belongs: on the protestors and the Soros/Bernie types who are financing them?

If Little Billy Ayers doesn't like Trump, that gives me yet another reason to vote for him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:19 AM (LUgeY)

440 RIP Keith Emerson

Here's a nice, quiet Saturday morning song from ELP:

"From the Beginning"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47S-lRwoK7c


I rather like this leisurely solo by Emerson. The guy had impeccable taste.

His solos almost always seem to fit the song exactly and yet surprise you.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 09:19 AM (2rmvw)

441 I'm not out to get the guy. He's all-good as far as I'm concerned. He never did anything to me, so I don't take it personally.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:20 AM (OQ9R7)

442 Bill Ayers doesn't like either Trump or Cruz.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:20 AM (w4NZ8)

443 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:19 AM (LUgeY)

I thought you were a Tump supporter. You changed to Cruz?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:20 AM (MNgU2)

444 Don't know what eveyone does to regain a sense of perspective, but I like to look at great art. Which is why we're lucky to have the Art Thread.

Took the grandkids to the DMA yesterday. Walked through all the floors briefly, with a break for a picnic in the car (raining here). Told them to make notes on what they'd like to see at length when we go back just one on one. Loved how each one had such different likes.

We went through the Pollock traveling exhibit- I could see the 7 year old, the real artist, thinking "that doesn't look too hard"...

Have a lovely day, all. Prayers up for the requests.

Posted by: Sal at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (MRX6w)

445 I wish Trump had decided to not cancel the rally. As I've said, Trump is bold but he is not courageous.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM


If he hadn't cancelled the rally, you'd probably be yapping about him "encouraging violence" or some such garbage.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (WIZNc)

446 Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 09:19 AM (2rmvw)
===========================================


Ya, that's a good one.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (dFi94)

447 KTBS dot com:

>>'Lord willing and the creek don't rise' had special meaning for thousands of people in the ArkLaTex on Friday as they prayed, sandbagged, evacuated and scrambled to cope as creeks, bayous and lakes rose and fell from the aftermath of a week of heavy rains.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (nXeSu)

448 Nice post, Sal! Thanks!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:22 AM (OQ9R7)

449 I'm cubit challenged. My stubby fingers barely reach the end of my hand. Moses used the cubit to build the ark. If he had my pathetic dimensions the ark would have been the size of Spinal Tap's Stonehenge.

Posted by: Trump at March 12, 2016 09:22 AM (gwG9s)

450 wish Trump had decided to not cancel the rally. As I've said, Trump is bold but he is not courageous.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM

If he hadn't cancelled the rally, you'd probably be yapping about him "encouraging violence" or some such garbage.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (WIZNc)

No I'm consistent in my views and positions unlike Trump and apparently a lot of people here.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (MNgU2)

451 And from the same people who brought you bad parental texting...

The people of Whole Foods

http://tinyurl.com/oxf9zbc

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (ptqRm)

452 did you know that Trump criticized Pam Geller for holding rallies? If not , you may be a low information voter.

--

What's your point?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (pVkEV)

453 "If he hadn't cancelled the rally, you'd probably be yapping about him "encouraging violence" or some such garbage."
-Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (WIZNc)

I whole-heartedly agree with this. There was nothing he could have done but what he did.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (OQ9R7)

454 There were a couple hundred protesters INSIDE the rally already.... had he tried to have the rally, it likely would have been a very problematic. I do not see how he could have maintained any order with that high a number of protesters acting up.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:24 AM (e7T6D)

455 I say the I say the following as a Cruz supporter. Cruz attempted to score some political points against Trump by suggesting that those protesters were a result of Trump's actions. If Cruz is lucky enough to win the primary, he's going to find out how quickly these protesters show up in each and every one of his rallies. So I guess Cruz would have said or did something to justify that, yes? Cruz's desire to virtue signal is going to end up getting thrown back in his face pretty quickly.

And on that note, I'm sure there are a lot of people that would love to voice their displeasure against Hillary Clinton in the same manner as these people were doing against Trump. And I can tell you for sure that she deserves it a lot more than he does.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 12, 2016 09:24 AM (OnPAT)

456 >>'Lord willing and the creek don't rise' had special meaning for thousands of people in the ArkLaTex on Friday as they prayed, sandbagged, evacuated and scrambled to cope as creeks, bayous and lakes rose and fell from the aftermath of a week of heavy rains.
--------------
The last thing these people need right now is an indian uprising!

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 09:24 AM (bA+CL)

457 wish Trump had decided to not cancel the rally. As I've said, Trump is bold but he is not courageous.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:14 AM




I believe it was the cops who told him to cancel. They said it wasn't safe. Of course it could have been but I'm guessing that shitweasel Rahm wanted it to get out of control.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:24 AM (45oDG)

458 Looking past the elections....

I'm concerned that the people surrounding Cruz, Rubio and Kasich, the political advisors, communications directors, campaign managers etc. are all so fucking stupid that they can't recognize the obviously correct positions on issues like the Trump/Chicago thing.

Where are these people from?

Are they so isolated, so out of touch that they miss galactic-sized indicators on public sentiment?

Who will we recruit and train a new set of campaign leaders who will run future elections?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (Zs4uk)

459 I just popped on a little Neil Young "Harvest".

Calms the spirit.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (TxJGV)

460 "No I'm consistent in my views and positions unlike Trump and apparently a lot of people here."
-Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (MNgU2)

I've been consistent in my abhorrence for Donald Trump.

-There was nothing else to do but what he did.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (OQ9R7)

461 No I'm consistent in my views and positions unlike Trump and apparently a lot of people here.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM


Okay, you'd definitely be yapping about him encouraging violence if he had allowed the rally to go on.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (WIZNc)

462 Since the establishment hated Cruz but found him the only way to stop Trump who will have the upper hand? Will Cruz have leverage against the Bush's and establishment or will he owe his success to them? Provided they can stop Trump.

Posted by: tops at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (p5xLT)

463 If shutting down campaign events is going to be tolerated, you will see more of it. Only leftists discourse allowed? The losers on the Republican side blaming Trump? Who can figure why Trump is winning?

Posted by: AnnaS at March 12, 2016 09:26 AM (P+I7L)

464 What in this statement is false? Or is it just never okay to say anything negative about Trump?

Ted Cruz is responding to Donald Trump's cancellation of his Chicago rally, saying the billionaire has created an environment that encourages this sort of nasty discourse. The Texas senator is calling it a sad day.

He says, Political discourse should occur in this country without the threat of violence, without anger and rage and hatred directed at each other.

Cruz says blame for the events in downtown Chicago rests with the protesters but, in any campaign responsibility starts at the top.

Cruz says, When the candidate urges supporters to engage in physical violence, to punch people in the face, the predictable consequence of that is that it escalates. Today is unlikely to be the last such incident.

Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 09:26 AM (nyYhO)

465

I wouldnt assume that the only reason, if that, he killed himself was bc of carpel tunnel. Old age has an effect on your thoughts. Also in the mix is that so many people you know have already died.


Good point. I've heard that he was battling depression too.

What a waste and a shitty thing to do to your family and friends. I say this having dealt with the aftermath of suicide myself.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:26 AM (LUgeY)

466 Good morning. That was a fun ONT, although I went to bed when it turned into a gamer thread.

I saw a comment by "Trump poisoned my cat" get vanished, so that commenter may have been banned. I think that might have been an overreaction on somebody's part. I'm both a lukewarm Trump supporter and a cat owner servant, and I've never seen a comment by that person that I found offensive. If they said anything that earned a banning, I missed it.

I mentioned it in the ONT while both ace and Maet were there, but didn't get an acknowledgement.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 09:27 AM (sdi6R)

467 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (OQ9R7)

Disagree . He should have not give in to the protesters.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:27 AM (MNgU2)

468 Don't get me wrong... nobody should be able to shut down events. They're just going to need more scrutiny and security, now.

Trump didn't do that. The "Progressive Speech-Stoppers" did that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:28 AM (OQ9R7)

469 Did Trump need a permit for this Rally?

And is there a chance that the permit was revoked by authorities,rightly assuming that safety could no longer reasonably be assured due to protestors?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:28 AM (ptqRm)

470 Hi Mama AJ - prayers to you and yours.

Posted by: Gran at March 12, 2016 09:29 AM (pZVlT)

471 if you watch the Orlando Trump rally, there was a guy the youtube commenters were calling Mohawk standing right behind Trump to the right, acting weird and possibly coordinating protesters by smartphone. eventually he was surrounded by SS and Troopers and he and his pals were escorted out as Trump finished. it was very weird.

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:29 AM (nFwvY)

472 The people of Whole Foods
I especially liked 18:

Lady1: "Yoga helps you look and feel better naked"
Lady2: "So does Tequila"

Posted by: bananaDream at March 12, 2016 09:29 AM (Ag8Mw)

473 Aw, thanks, Slap.
Glad you liked it.

Posted by: Sal at March 12, 2016 09:29 AM (MRX6w)

474 Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:25 AM (WIZN

You can speculate all you want but you would be wrong. As usual.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:30 AM (MNgU2)

475 Keep 'em coming, VIA. Anything to avoid the burgeoning conflict.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 09:30 AM (eBsWa)

476 Karn Evil 9?? meh. Much preferred Tarkus. Was the best while I was driving down the highway drink..er, Smokin...er, minding my own business!

Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at March 12, 2016 09:30 AM (HPNqc)

477 Better to hear it.

Thanks for the vid link, Tim in Illinois. Haven't listened yet, but did sorta grok what was said from comments here.

As Lady in Black said, 2nd stupid Cruz statement in a week. Imprudent and impolitic. The candidates seem so focused on attacking each other, they forget who the real main enemy is!

But in a time packed with stupid, imprudent, impolitic politicians, Cruz gets knocked down two notches and still stands above the others as Presidential. Sad times, though, all around.

Posted by: mindful webworker - not impudent! at March 12, 2016 09:31 AM (l/Pix)

478 You're welcome, Sal. That was sweet and pure. It was nice reading in the morning.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:31 AM (OQ9R7)

479 I imagine Mr Trump is getting deluged with threats on his life, prolly far more than any other candidate. And it seems the situation is spiraling out of control. I am relieved he cancelled these two appearances until they get their arms around the security situation. For Mr. Trumps safety and that of those who would attend

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 09:31 AM (zOTsN)

480 And is there a chance that the permit was revoked by
authorities,rightly assuming that safety could no longer reasonably be
assured due to protestors?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:28 AM


What I read was that Trump cancelled the rally himself. The Chicago PD honchos claim they didn't tell him to cancel. I can believe that either cops on the scene or the Secret Service thought it might be best if he did, and said so. In any case, it was a smart move: why give the thugs what they wanted?

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (WIZNc)

481

I thought you were a Tump supporter. You changed to Cruz?

I've stated my support for Cruz many times here. Trump is my second choice and if neither one is on the Repumpkin ballot in November, I'll be sitting out the first presidential election of my life.

I'm tired of being a stranger in my own country and being fucked over by the people who claim they're acting in my interest.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (LUgeY)

482 Anyone got a link to the full transcript of Cruz's comments?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (bZ7mE)

483 "Lady1: "Yoga helps you look and feel better naked"
Lady2: "So does Tequila"
"
-Posted by: bananaDream at March 12, 2016 09:29 AM (Ag8Mw)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (OQ9R7)

484 spypeach, I don't see it as Cruz saying something negative about Trump as much as the missed opportunity to fight back against PC SJW posturing and lay the blame squarely on the protesters attempting to shut down political speech they don't agree with, which is a 'tard interpretation of freedom of speech. Not only that, but a planned protest whipped up by political operatives.

He missed a clarifying opportunity and instead did the standard boilerplate. Unforced error.... but politically understandable and surely GOPe textbook.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:33 AM (e7T6D)

485 I've never heard anyone say anything particularly stupid at Whole Foods. maybe because I was busy getting a few things there and not paying attention to what other people saying or trying to catch them out saying stupid stuff. And no, it's not my regular supermaket. I sometimes go there to get a few items because i like their hot food bar or soups. Going there occasionally doesn't make me a leftist or any less capable of occasionally saying stupid stuff than iI already am. It's just not leftist stuff:^)

And here's a lovely story about people who helped and supported a woman in Whole Foods after she got a call saying that her father had committed suicide:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z245e3v

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:33 AM (w4NZ8)

486 "If he hadn't cancelled the rally, you'd probably be yapping about him "encouraging violence" or some such garbage."

-Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (WIZNc)



I whole-heartedly agree with this. There was nothing he could have done but what he did.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:23 AM (OQ9R7)


We get lots of people here on the ol' AoSHQ who both A. Announce their supreme dislike for the guy, then B. Spend much much time devoted to telling the guy what he should and should not do.

I find this amusing. Not rousingly, raucously amusing. Just mildly so.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:33 AM (TOk1P)

487 Anyone got a link to the full transcript of Cruz's comments?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM


I believe they're in an article at Breitbart.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (WIZNc)

488
"Lady1: "Yoga helps you look and feel better naked" Lady2: "So does Tequila""


So can we get pics of the yoga chick and the tequila chick and judge for ourselves?

Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (HPNqc)

489 Disintegration chambers. Quick, painless, efficient, no residue to clean up. That's what Chicago needs. And cattle prods. Worked fine for us until that ass Kirk showed up.

Failing that, scoops.

Posted by: Anan 7 at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (bGLSw)

490 I imagine Mr Trump is getting deluged with threats
on his life, prolly far more than any other candidate. And it seems the
situation is spiraling out of control. I am relieved he cancelled
these two appearances until they get their arms around the security
situation. For Mr. Trumps safety and that of those who would attend

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 09:31 AM (zOTsN)_______
Very sad for all of us. Unfortunately, ginning up a crowd is pretty easy, but riding that tiger means dismount is a bitch.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (MIKMs)

491 Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 09:31 AM (zOTsN)

Good point; I worry about the safety of both Trump and Cruz.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (w4NZ8)

492 472 "The people of Whole Foods"


I'm going to Whole Foods today to pick up skinless chicken breasts.

I don't know what those hippies do to this chicken that gets it to come out so tender all the time, but it's the only place that I've found that has it.

They probably have interpretive dances for the chickens, relaxing them and tenderizing the meat.

Of course, they charge about $7 a pound, but it's worth it.

See, we can live and trade together with liberals as long as they keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:35 AM (Zs4uk)

493 "What I read was that Trump cancelled the rally himself. The Chicago PD honchos claim they didn't tell him to cancel."
-Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (WIZNc)

That's true. Trump cancelled it after finding out what was happening outside, (and inside), the arena.

Trump made a good-call and I'll back it 100%

...and you know what I think about the guy as President.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:35 AM (OQ9R7)

494 "Anything to avoid the burgeoning conflict."

I have no intention of avoiding it.

In real life, I am literally blocks away from the front lines of the coming cultural collision,and fully expect a shit-show which will cause the significant loss of property and life.

I do not endorse it, nor intend to cause any of it.

But the storm clouds are forming on the horizon.

One can stand firm in their convictions, and still laugh often, and well.

Plus, I'm kinda an Idiot in training, so I have that going for me.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:35 AM (ptqRm)

495 Disagree . He should have not give in to the protesters.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:27 AM (MNgU2)




If the cops told him it had to be canceled. What could he do? It was out of control and I'm guessing Rahm allowed it by not having enough cops in the area or letting them act accordingly. After St. Laquan McDonald, little Rahm is letting the savages run wild.
Last weekend it was 20 shot in 21 hours or 21 shot in 20 hours.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:36 AM (45oDG)

496 Testing...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 12, 2016 09:36 AM (D0J8L)

497 Posted by: Sal at March 12, 2016 09:21 AM (MRX6w)
----
Nice post! There is nothing like the susurrous hush of a great museum.

My parents would take us to the classy and luxurious DIA. Some of my favorite nooks and crannies were the medieval nave with stained glass, the Kresge Court with each wall a different Renaissance style (and monthly Early Music concerts), the armor exhibit, and the Diego Rivera "Detroit Industry" mural room (yeah he was a rich Commie prick but I still like it).

Favorite paintings included Watson and the Shark:

http://tinyurl.com/z53k7h7

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (jR7Wy)

498 spypeach, I don't see it as Cruz saying something
negative about Trump as much as the missed opportunity to fight back
against PC SJW posturing and lay the blame squarely on the protesters
attempting to shut down political speech they don't agree with, which is
a 'tard interpretation of freedom of speech. Not only that, but a
planned protest whipped up by political operatives.

He missed a
clarifying opportunity and instead did the standard boilerplate.
Unforced error.... but politically understandable and surely GOPe
textbook.


Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:33 AM (e7T6D)


I'm keeping an eye out for what Cruz does now, and how he does it. If he succumbs to the temptation to fall in line with Gope, he will effectively kill any chance he has at a future shot at the nomination.


2016 is not going to be his year. He must know that already. Regardless of whether we have a President Trump or Clinton or some other Incubus/Succubus President this year, he would have a shot at 2020, IF AND ONLY IF he continues to sell himself as apart and outside the Gope Washington Establishment Industrial Complex.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (TOk1P)

499 When I was a kid, I was afraid if I died young, I would be condemned to be naked with only a bow and sash like an effin cherub.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (iQIUe)

500 Oh, goody. No bannination on this device. Now to check the others...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (D0J8L)

501 I wish before any Republican even thinks about laying the blame on Trump for the actions of Democrat Brown Shirts-

that they remember and publically speak to the fact that-

this is happening because we have

a CiC who is a "community organizer" who has constantly called for violence and used violent images and metaphors in his speeches beginning back in 2007 until the present time-

and whose DOJ refuses to prosecute leftist violence and intimidation (ex. Black Panther voter intimidation)

again, beginning in 2008 until today.

Why don't all of you speak to that forcefully-

before you start worrying about some little political advantage you can gain from downplaying the 1st amendment?


Hint: That will go over far far better with the voters.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (2rmvw)

502 "I'm tired of being a stranger in my own country and being fucked over by the people who claim they're acting in my interest."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:32 AM (LUgeY)


If I could just figure out a way to fit that sentiment on a T-shirt, it would sell a million.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (Zs4uk)

503 The anarchy inside that arena was already too much. There was no way anyone in their right-mind would have wanted to escalate that.

Donald Trump made the right decision and there wasn't really a choice.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (OQ9R7)

504 Holy shitcakes, I just tried to get caught up and boy am I not sorry I missed yesterday's action.


I guess the only question I have is, where has Trump been encouraging violence? Not a Trump supporter, but not a Trump Loather either.


But I've been seeing this coming from a few people and now ace?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (Wckf4)

505
Obama plans to use his trip to Cuba to make an unofficial "treaty" so
that his successor can not undo his crap after he leaves office.


http://tinyurl.com/z7fzgzh

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:05 AM (t2KH5)

Every bit of Obama's overreach can be undone... it just takes the will of the next guy.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 09:40 AM (NPofj)

506 I've never been to a Whole Foods. I'm not sure if there's one around here or not. There's probably a ton of them over the state line because, Illinois. When I want whole foods I go to the couple who raise pigs, or maybe the guy who has bison. Except last week a lot of the bison got loose on the road and were endangering traffic so they put them down. I don't know what they did with the meat.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 09:40 AM (dFi94)

507 VIA @ 494

So you're telling me I have to stifle the flight instinct. Alright, but you have to give notice when they start flowing out of the ghettos.

Nice to know someone I trust is on the front line.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 09:41 AM (eBsWa)

508 Yeah, naturalflake, and I wish Trump would bring all of that up too.... like today. He should bring up MoveOn and Hillary and Obama and BLM and Obama's incredibly divisive and inflammatory statements of how to deal with Republicans or dissenters, etc.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:41 AM (e7T6D)

509 Zip has a new link with video of Protestors blocking an ambulance needed at the Rally.

You all know how to get to Zip's place by now, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 09:41 AM (ptqRm)

510 Why don't all of you speak to that forcefully-



before you start worrying about some little political advantage you can gain from downplaying the 1st amendment?



Hint: That will go over far far better with the voters.



Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (2rmvw)


This would seem to be right up Cruz' alley. I find it odd that he's not really doing that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:41 AM (TOk1P)

511 95 @78 My hubby picks music for church. The good stuff. He gets complaints about dirges and whatnot, and gets asked why can't they sing something modern and jazzy with simpler and fewer words. Signs of the times.
Posted by: Lizabth at March 12, 2016 06:51 AM (3v3uS)

Late as always, I am.

Anyway, I'm heavily involved in the music minisy at my parish and assist the director in choosing the music for our liturgies. We get this all the time. Music directors are in a Catch-22. No matter what you choose, you're going to have people who hate it. One week it's the above, the next it's people demanding the old hymns, the next week it's people asking for 60's hippie dippy folk music. One week everything is too loud, the next they can't hear the cantor, the next they didn't know the song well enough to sing it, the next they're bored with songs they know and want something new. Sometimes you feel like you just can't win.

It's extra hard, too if your liturgy is more formal. I'm Catholic and our parish is faithful, so we actually do have to try and fit the pieces to the readings and be mindful of the appropriateness of their tone, etc and so on. You would be amazed at how many people get mad at us because they didn't hear their favorite tune at this week's mass, and how they look at you like you've grown a third eye when you explain, for example, that their favorite tune is about Lazarus and the readings this week were about Baptism.

It's no-win.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 12, 2016 09:42 AM (KkVB6)

512 He also represented himself on "Greta" with grace. He talked in circles, (like he always does), but he knew-better than to escalate that situation.

It was Chicago, man.

...freaking Chicago.

"I Heard My Mama Cry..."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:42 AM (OQ9R7)

513 Anyone got a link to the full transcript of Cruz's comments?

Here's Ted himself, making the comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxBp4IFe_I

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2016 09:42 AM (df5V4)

514 Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (TOk1P)


Sure, but if Cruz is going to get held to the asinine metric of Not Denouncing X Loud Enough Or Long Enough as Trump seems to have, then he seems to be in a Kafka-22.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:43 AM (Wckf4)

515 Holy shitcakes, I just tried to get caught up and boy am I not sorry I missed yesterday's action.



I guess the only question I have is, where has Trump been
encouraging violence? Not a Trump supporter, but not a Trump Loather
either.



But I've been seeing this coming from a few people and now ace?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (Wckf4)


Yeah, I don't have time to hunt it down myself, and if you ask his supporters, they will deny it, and send you a link that proves it's not true, while his detractors will send you a link that says it is.

As I said, I don't have time for this. So it toss it in the "useless information I can't use because it's useless" bin.


The bin is getting pretty full.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:44 AM (TOk1P)

516 Neither Whole Foods nor Chipotle has managed to open up here yet, despite building.

Whole Foods claims that they are opening a full year late because of "weather delays".

Chipotle down the road started building before Whataburger even broke ground and WB is already open.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:45 AM (nXeSu)

517 498 spypeach, I don't see it as Cruz saying something
negative about Trump as much as the missed opportunity to fight back
against PC SJW posturing and lay the blame squarely on the protesters
attempting to shut down political speech they don't agree with, which is
a 'tard interpretation of freedom of speech. Not only that, but a
planned protest whipped up by political operatives.

He missed a
clarifying opportunity and instead did the standard boilerplate.
Unforced error.... but politically understandable and surely GOPe
textbook.

He did say the blame was with the protesters, but also that Trump needs to set the tone.

Trump has had his gloves off during this whole campaign, calling his opponents liars, cheaters, non-citizens, and a ton of other unsavory names, but anytime anyone says anything negative about Trump, well that's just a bridge too far. I don't get it, I really don't. If the roles were reversed Trump would be out there all over the news making this about Cruz.

Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 09:45 AM (nyYhO)

518
cruz is showing his true colors, he is a douche; im' disappointed, used to like the guy..back in 2012, but then if it wasn't for palin no one would know who the hell he is

Posted by: runner at March 12, 2016 09:46 AM (c6/9Q)

519 Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:37 AM (TOk1P)





Sure, but if Cruz is going to get held to the asinine metric of Not
Denouncing X Loud Enough Or Long Enough as Trump seems to have, then he
seems to be in a Kafka-22.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:43 AM (Wckf4)


Yeah, I really don't want to be part of that. I will say, I have generally had a good deal of respect for Ted Cruz, just never really thought he had something or other that would lead him to victory in this race.

So I'm just saying out loud what I've been thinking all along. I would prefer he was something he's not. That's not his fault. He is who he is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:46 AM (TOk1P)

520 Yeah, I don't have time to hunt it down myself, and if you ask his supporters, they will deny it, and send you a link that proves it's not true, while his detractors will send you a link that says it is.


Dunno about encouraging violence, per se, IIRC Trump did eject a bunch of protesters from one of his rallies after removing their coats in sub-20 degree weather. At the very least he suggested removing their coats, don't know for sure that the coats were actually taken.

That is one data point.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 09:47 AM (bZ7mE)

521 ..."But I've been seeing this coming from a few people and now ace?"
-Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (Wckf4)

Iowa: "Throw them out. Get them out of here. It is cold out there. Take his coat. Take his coat. He'll be cold, so take his coat."

Nevada: "I'll pay your legal fees, just get him out of here. Toss him out. We don't need that. We don't need that. Throw him out."

He hasn't asked for what happened in Chicago, however. That is ALL "Progressive Left Agitation" looking for trouble.

...and they found it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:48 AM (OQ9R7)

522 >>I guess the only question I have is, where has Trump been
encouraging violence?

Here's a link to Business Insider that has the quotes from Trump and links to them:

http://tinyurl.com/jptc6nr

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:48 AM (nXeSu)

523 If I was Trump, I would be saying, " man, those Bernie supporters ... I understand why they're so mad and angry and frustrated. The DNC is going to nominate Hillary regardless of the votes or an indictment it appears"

heh heh

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:48 AM (e7T6D)

524 471 if you watch the Orlando Trump rally, there was a guy the youtube commenters were calling Mohawk standing right behind Trump to the right, acting weird and possibly coordinating protesters by smartphone. eventually he was surrounded by SS and Troopers and he and his pals were escorted out as Trump finished. it was very weird.
______________________

I read in an article on this crap somewhere this morning that Trump's security people had learned that there was a plan by the protesters (many of whom were already inside the venue) to swarm the stage from many different positions once they received the signal. If true, it seems prudent to cancel, given that it would have been difficult for even the most-skilled security team to deal with so many threats coming from so many different directions at once.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2016 09:48 AM (df5V4)

525 It's no-win.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 12, 2016 09:42 AM (KkVB6)
==========================================

I go to a church with well over a thousand adults. All of them are 32 years of age, except for three people with white hair, of which I am one. They sing songs from Christian radio, which means lots of electric guitars and drums. Fortunately I listen to Christian radio, so I'm not totally lost. The words are on the screen too which helps. I like it. I like the old hymns too. It's all good, as long as it points to Jesus. Music is neutral. It's notes on a page. It's what you do with the lyrics that counts. Sing to Jesus. From your heart, sing to the God who loves you and gave Himself for you. As long as the songs do that, I'm good.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 09:49 AM (dFi94)

526 spypeach, I tell myself that Trump trait of going ugly if attacked is a New York thing. I think it must be in the water. Yes, Trump water too.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:50 AM (e7T6D)

527 Dunno about encouraging violence, per se, IIRC Trump
did eject a bunch of protesters from one of his rallies after removing
their coats in sub-20 degree weather. At the very least he suggested
removing their coats, don't know for sure that the coats were actually
taken.



That is one data point.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 09:47 AM (bZ7mE)


Which would probably take some extra time and effort I don't have to find out exactly what happened and how. Did they ask protesters to remove coats because they suspected they were carrying weapons? Did they get them back after finding none?


Obviously that would be very different from "they took their coats and sent them out into the cold!"

So like I said, I don't know, and I don't have much faith I'm going to find out. And what with Ace's meltdown yesterday on the Great Grabbing of Twenty Ought Sixteen, I'm probably going to assume AoSHQ is not going to be the source for accurate information on this topic either.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:51 AM (TOk1P)

528 -Posted by: runner at March 12, 2016 09:46 AM (c6/9Q)

What the hell are you talking about? No matter. Don't answer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:52 AM (OQ9R7)

529 So now Cruz, that conservative expert constitutional law, is willing to dispense with the first amendment to hobble a political rival. And Trump flip flopped on Sessions' plan. They are completely dead to me. I'll write in Jeff Sessions, just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 12, 2016 09:52 AM (B0X2V)

530 Post over at Zip's place says the Cincinnati rally is still on. Reports of cancellation were false.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 09:53 AM (eBsWa)

531 Here's Ted himself, making the comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxBp4IFe_I
Posted by: TrivialPursuer


his three eyed fish moment

Posted by: x at March 12, 2016 09:53 AM (nFwvY)

532 spypeach, I tell myself that Trump trait of going
ugly if attacked is a New York thing. I think it must be in the water.
Yes, Trump water too.


Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:50 AM (e7T6D)
________
Chicago invented political riots -- from Haymarket to '68. Because words do have consequences. Amazing how the Blackhawks wins and the Bears wins didn't bring out the ugly.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 09:54 AM (MIKMs)

533 From Second City Cop:


The media is downplaying the "protests" as isolated. It seems they aren't broadcasting footage of the debris being thrown across Harrison by Sanders/Hillary supporters at Trump fans.

They also aren't mentioning the hordes running through the UIC parking structure breaking the windows of cars with Trump 2016 stickers.

We haven't seen any mention of the Eisenhower takeover, nor the Incident Team call-outs from assorted Districts.

It's almost like they're ashamed that the UIC tradition of supporting leftist terrorists (Ayers and his spawn) has come home to roost.

Last report was at least two cops needed numerous stitches to close up wounds. A speedy recovery to the injured.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:54 AM (45oDG)

534 Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:39 AM (Wckf4)

Trump has taken a no holds barred rhetoric in the past when dealing with protestors at his rallies. Just short of calling for direct violence against them. Even so, I don't believe that is why the Chicago protest happened or why Trump is the main target of the communist / anarchist professional protestor scum. Trump started his campaign with language the opposition deemed racist. Corporations and organizations withdrew their dealings with Trump because of it. He then became the tool the left intended to use to paint the GOP as racist. Trump doubled down on the rhetoric . He then became the leading candidate for the nomination and the target was clarified . Whether true or not ( not true) , the meme on the Left is that Trump is a fascist and he must be stopped. It will continue to snowball as these things tend to do. If Trump had not become the lead candidate , he would have been ignored.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 09:54 AM (MNgU2)

535 So can we get pics of the yoga chick and the tequila chick and judge for ourselves?
Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at March 12, 2016 09:34 AM (HPNqc)


Better yet, let's feed the yoga chick some tequila . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 09:54 AM (q2o38)

536 Ok, checked out those quotes and you can put me down with BurtTC on this one - I'd like to know what those protesters were doing before that. Ever seen some of the shit they pull? It's pretty fvcking outrageous. I'd like to know some more context.


But I don't think any more information is going to be forthcoming, and I've misplaced my give-a-shitometer.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (Wckf4)

537 518
"cruz is showing his true colors, he is a douche; im' disappointed..."


I honestly don't know what the truth is...

Maybe Ace can weigh in at some point and give us his opinion of what the real deal with Cruz is.

Here are the options:

1) Cruz knows that the vast majority of the base sees the Chicago rally thing as totally the left's fault, but he thought he would take the MSNBC side to get the press to like him.

2) Cruz actually thinks that republicans shouldn't have rallies where there are concentrations of minorities or others who would be offended at the views of conservatives.

3) Cruz thinks that republicans should be allowed to speak, even in urban areas, but that they should adopt views and "tones" to make their conservative views more attractive to liberals.

4) Cruz agrees with Trump, but doesn't have the courage to actually say it out loud.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (Zs4uk)

538 Which would probably take some extra time and effort I don't have to find out exactly what happened and how. Did they ask protesters to remove coats because they suspected they were carrying weapons? Did they get them back after finding none?



Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2GzMstrMk

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (bZ7mE)

539 cruz is showing his true colors, he is a douche; im' disappointed, used to like the guy..back in 2012, but then if it wasn't for palin no one would know who the hell he is


Posted by: runner


*******


Allow me to translate:

Right index finger in left palm, tap, tap, tap. Hook 'em Horns. "OK" sign, index finger of other hand through the hole, open palm vertical squiggle, twice. Dolphin leaps right to left then left to right. Two fingers up bunny hop, hands in armpits flap elbows, flap, flap. Thumb and finger "L" to forehead, tap, tap, tap, squiggle, mark of Zorro in the air, hesitate, catch breath.

Thumbs in ears waggle fingers, thumb and pinkie "Hang Loose" waggle,

Posted by: Fake sign language guy at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (NeFrd)

540 >> All of them are 32 years of age, except for three people with white hair,

LOL.

We have a traditional service with hymns and a "contemporary" service with newer stuff.

Some of the people who go to the cont. service do so because it's later in the morning, so they still complain about the music. At least quietly, I hope not to the music directors.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (nXeSu)

541 The left blocked people trying to get to the ER in Oakland. The left blocked an elderly woman i Portland trying to get home from boarding a bus at night. The left blocked a black man in San Diego with 6 kids from getting to his job that he could not afford to lose for being late.

The left are assholes and I cheer every time they get beat up. They deserve it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (iQIUe)

542 The left is showing us who they fear the most. They are not disrupting Cruz or Rubio or Kasich rallies. Trump is the ultimate FU... everything thrown at him makes him stronger. and stronger.

Had McConnell , McCain and Romney come out and endorsed Trump in January none of this.... none of it would have been possible. The DC folks are really stupid at recognizing jack crap... and with last night, we're seeing neither are the others.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (e7T6D)

543 It's only March. As somebody said last night, there's going to be a body count before this campaign is over.

And that will be entirely on the Left. That's how they roll.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (sdi6R)

544 While we don't recognize our country any more because of an anti-American community organizer as Preznit and a duplicitous GOP, I have larger problems today. Due to aging I don't remember if I'm suppose to identify as a man or woman today. It's going to be a long day.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at March 12, 2016 09:56 AM (22uju)

545 VIA: You all know how to get to Zip's place by now, right?

Practice?

http://instantrimshot.com/

Posted by: mindful webworker - shot of rum at March 12, 2016 09:57 AM (l/Pix)

546 Better yet, let's feed the yoga chick some tequila . .


*****


The tequila is for you, not her, silly.

Posted by: Fake sign language guy at March 12, 2016 09:57 AM (NeFrd)

547 Have a great day 'rons. I think I'll go buy some plants for my garden and enjoy this great weather.

Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 09:58 AM (nyYhO)

548 ..."Last report was at least two cops needed numerous stitches to close up wounds. A speedy recovery to the injured."
-Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 12, 2016 09:54 AM (45oDG)

Indeed.

One of those cops was a woman, last I heard. The guy had blood streaming down his head, (video), and the woman had undisclosed injuries.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:58 AM (OQ9R7)

549 See you later spypeach. You're able to plant already? Jealous here.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 09:59 AM (dFi94)

550 Later, spypeach!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:59 AM (OQ9R7)

551 Ok, checked out those quotes and you can put me down
with BurtTC on this one - I'd like to know what those protesters were
doing before that. Ever seen some of the shit they pull? It's pretty
fvcking outrageous. I'd like to know some more context.





But I don't think any more information is going to be forthcoming, and I've misplaced my give-a-shitometer.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (Wckf4)


If I recall correctly, this sorta started with that Hispanic reporter who wouldn't shut up, and Trump made his blustery "get him outta here" comment, to much applause. And then the guy was seen back in the room minutes later.

Seems to be part of the show. Which, if this was professional wrasslin', some fans would be cheering and some booing.


I'm not seeing the difference, what with this being a Presidential race rather than wrasslin'.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 09:59 AM (TOk1P)

552 Er, oops. I meant-

pinch nose with thumb and index finger, snap fingers three times, bunny ears hop right to left.

Posted by: Fake sign language guy at March 12, 2016 09:59 AM (NeFrd)

553 Here are the options:



5) Cruz sees the responsibility for this particular incident as the protesters', which is why he said it is their responsibility, but also sees Trump as at fault for encouraging that kind of behavior among his own people and because it is a primary focused on the second.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (bZ7mE)

554 ****sticks face in fan****

Here's the deal that makes people worry about Trump

1. He pretends he doesn't know who David Duke is

2. He has a lot, and I mean a lot, of Storm Front fan bois

3. He jokes about punching protestors, seeming not to understand or care about crowd dynamics

4. He seems to be surrounding himself with people who are a bit coarse and occasionally ham handed in their personal interactions

5. He seems not to care about any of the above


I understand that is part of his charm, but it is also his curse. Is he just a strongman devoid of any deeper guiding principles? Does he recognize anything, any authority, that would constrain his behavior? Why is he so seemingly comfortable with his white nationalist support? He is a very smart man, no doubt he is aware of it. Now I hear you already screaming at me, "but Obama and the Dems never reject the BLM crowd and it's the same thing." This is true. But I reject the Democratic Party, in large part, because of their racially divisive tribalism. I won't embrace it here either.

This is what makes me uncomfortable with Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (zOTsN)

555 Is there a reason this site isn't doing an article about the Chicago riots when Trump cancelled his rally? Those Soros funded protestors were the real fascists but not a peep about it here?

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (LQLeS)

556 >>Here are the options:

I'm going with "he's not missing an opportunity to attack Trump because he's trying to win and this will be a good thing in the general".

Don't have to want to hang out with him. He won't win unless he fights hard.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (nXeSu)

557 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:52 AM (OQ9R7)

Are you still awake??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (pUDQf)

558 #492

At $7 a pound, ingesting that chicken had better induce an hour long orgasm.

Stuff I picked up yesterday morning at a small local chain for $1.39 a pound has been fine. Second best price this week from the big mega supermarket chain is thirty cents higher. It adds up.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 10:03 AM (IdCqF)

559 >>Is there a reason this site isn't doing an article about the Chicago riots when Trump cancelled his rally?

Ace said he would post again last night after dinner, so it may just be that none of the cobs did because they thought he would.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:03 AM (nXeSu)

560 And lastly I see that Ace has noticed an influx of
troublemaking newbies. I remarked on this several days ago. It happens
every election cycle. We get a pile of troublemakers here whose sole
purpose is to sew discontent and make trouble. I suspect they are paid
political operatives who intend to shutdown conservative sites who may
be supporting an opposition candidate.



Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 12, 2016 06:09 AM (t2KH5)

I have been noticing the same thing and agree with the assessment.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:03 AM (NPofj)

561 Later taters.


Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 10:03 AM (NeFrd)

562 Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 09:52 AM

sounds like you are trying to create an environment that encourages violence

Posted by: runner at March 12, 2016 10:03 AM (c6/9Q)

563 Is there a reason this site isn't doing an article
about the Chicago riots when Trump cancelled his rally? Those Soros
funded protestors were the real fascists but not a peep about it here?

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (LQLeS)
=============================

Not a peep? Have you read this thread? Or last night's thread? Or the thread in between?

If you mean a dedicated titled thread, Ace typically does not post on weekends, and volunteers fill in. In other words, you get what you get.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:04 AM (dFi94)

564 There was no riot post because Ace was out to dinner eating rabbit thigh when it all blew up and who knows where the COBs were, but yesterday afternoon was so heated with bruise-gate-rapey-assault cover-up action that I think the riot just kinda happened and got covered by us, the unwashed morons in the comments.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:04 AM (e7T6D)

565 -Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (Zs4uk)

If you took that guy seriously, you are disqualified from receiving tasty, delicious fruitcake.

Fruitcake List:

-grammie winger[x]
-jwest
-Yip [x]
-Mama AJ [x]

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:04 AM (OQ9R7)

566 Heh heh

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:05 AM (e7T6D)

567 *Fruit-Cup can be substituted for fruitcake.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:05 AM (OQ9R7)

568 Darn. I like Fruit Cake too.

Another sadz.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (WVsWD)

569 Is there a reason this site isn't doing an article
about the Chicago riots when Trump cancelled his rally? Those Soros
funded protestors were the real fascists but not a peep about it here?

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (LQLeS)


Prolly cuz Ace hasn't figured out yet how it's worse than grabbing somebody's arm. Once he does we'll get three days of it, non-stop.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (TOk1P)

570 Is the GOPe's endorsement going to be the kiss of death for Cruz?

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (NQmg1)

571 I also like mayo on my Fries and Ketchup on my Steak.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (WVsWD)

572 Cruz sucks. Literally. He sucks George Soros, he sucks BLM, he sucks Bernie Sanders, he sucks brown shirts.

Kasich sucks, Prince Riebus sucks, Fox News sucks, Redstate (at least they are living up to their communist fascist nature now) sucks, the donor class sucks, all the bloggers in their pockets suck.

Romney sucks, oh and by the way, it was like the day after Romney came out with his plan to dump Trump that Allah and other bloggers we won't name went full out ballistic on Trump showing their hidden establishment credentials - they all suck.

Really, it seems, about half of the people in America right now are sucking.

I would like to see Florida, Ohio, Illinois, North Carolina, Missouri and the others come out on Tuesday and give Trump an 80% victory so that we can start to end this suck.

Posted by: doug at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (fhYVx)

573 >>Is there a reason this site isn't doing an article about the Chicago
riots when Trump cancelled his rally? Those Soros funded protestors were
the real fascists but not a peep about it here?


The internet's yuuuge - maybe you could find another site that covers that story?

Slightly related: Did I miss any bannings? Things got heated around here yesterday, and I see Ace's note in the sidebar.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (NOIQH)

574 Here's the deal that makes people worry about Trump


Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (zOTsN)


You forgot - seems to know fvckall about policy or really anything about anything other than running a real estate development business.


That's what did it for me. Well, that and his insanely stupid comments about how he would use the military and one other thing I've already forgotten because he's not even going to get my protest vote now.


As for this "encouragement to violence" and whatnot, I'm just not seeing much to be troubled about. Some of these people get insanely disruptive and aggressively antagonistic.


I'm pretty much a free-speech absolutist, so when you start talking about shifting responsibility to Trump for other people's actions, you start down a pretty ugly path.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (Wckf4)

575 "Are you still awake??"
-Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:00 AM (pUDQf)

No. I've fallen asleep and I can't get up.

You still get Fruit Cup

AlaBAMA[x]

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (OQ9R7)

576 The self-righteous outrage that AoS doesn't publish articles supporting this or that important idea is tiresome. Start your own damn blog.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (TxJGV)

577 You know, there's a fundamental difference between having someone removed from a venue for outrageous behavior and busting cops' heads with bottles. I fail to see any comparison.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (eBsWa)

578 I also like mayo on my Fries




Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM
============================================


That's just wrong. So so wrong.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:08 AM (dFi94)

579 The Whale, in the Library, with the rope. Just sayin'

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:08 AM (e7T6D)

580 -Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (WVsWD)

You can haz Fruit Cup/Cake...

Tim in Illinois [x]

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:08 AM (OQ9R7)

581 If you took that guy seriously, you are disqualified from receiving tasty, delicious fruitcake.



Fruitcake List:



-grammie winger[x]

-jwest

-Yip [x]

-Mama AJ [x]





Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:04 AM (OQ9R7)

Can you pre-disqualify me, Slapweasel? I can't stand fruitcake but don't want to have to talk to trolls to really get my self disqualified.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (NPofj)

582

That's just wrong. So so wrong.

I agree. Mayo is for hamburgers and hot dogs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (LUgeY)

583 565 -Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 09:55 AM (Zs4uk)

If you took that guy seriously, you are disqualified from receiving tasty, delicious fruitcake.


Fruitcake is one of my favorites.

I buy the ones they have at the bank for fundraisers.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (Zs4uk)

584 Ace was on the ONT last night, and I thought it was pretty mellow overall. People were talking about video games when I called it a night and went to bed.

Except that the commenter "Trump poisoned my cat" apparently got banned. I saw a comment disappear. I'm going to keep mentioning this, because I've never seen a comment by that person that deserved banning. I think it was a case of bad timing or an overreaction on somebody's part.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (sdi6R)

585 "That's just wrong. So so wrong"

Mayo on Fries is Yummy.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (WVsWD)

586 Where is my slice of rum-drenched fruitcake?

Where is that rascal?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (jR7Wy)

587 Remember Cruz's "McConnell lied to me speech" over Obamatrade and why he originally supported it. Then Cruz "realized" McConnell lied to him and he changed his mind.

Maybe McConnell did not lie to Cruz, and maybe that is the reason so few Senators are backing him now. Maybe Cruz realized he was going to hurt his Presidential chances by originally backing TPP and decided he needed a fall guy for openly supporting it.

Cruz could have just said he scr$ed up and changed his mind on TPP, but instead he went all theatrical by throwing Turtle under the bus.

I see Cruz in a different light this morning...

Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (q52Ma)

588 Can you pre-disqualify me, Slapweasel? I can't stand
fruitcake but don't want to have to talk to trolls to really get my
self disqualified.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (NPofj)
==========================================

You're on the Lutefisk list.

j/k - I would never do that to a moron. Or any living human being.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (dFi94)

589 I was remiss in excluding Tim. Apologies were spoken, shame was prevalent, many words were thrown about.

In the end?

Tim in Ill. has been given his just desserts.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (OQ9R7)

590 I've always liked you Slap.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (WVsWD)

591 Yeah, Ace was cool in the ONT. Good times.... well, until I went and watched that whale movie. I should have stayed with the video game guys in the thread.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (e7T6D)

592 there is a very old saying, "show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are"

I guess for me, there is a corollary " show me who your voters are and I'll tell you what you believe"

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (zOTsN)

593 Yes, Ma'am. You can haz kitty.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (OQ9R7)

594 I think this particular brand of nasty shit, shutting down free speech, is rule 3 in the commie playbook.

Get rubes to go act like assholes and cause a riot. Then, opposition silenced, because he had to cancel to protect people.

I'm pretty sick of that shit and they are pretty good at it.

Like I said, either we continue to let it happen or we stop it.

They aren't going to stop it. And THEY is a big group of nasties.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (pUDQf)

595 {hands Slapweasel his jammies}

It's time, guy. You're getting punchy. Don't forget to brush your teeth.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:12 AM (eBsWa)

596 Mayo is for hamburgers and hot dogs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:09 AM (LUgeY)
===============================================

Hot dogs ?? Again, wrong.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:12 AM (dFi94)

597 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Some guy said this once.

Posted by: Aviator at March 12, 2016 10:12 AM (c7vUv)

598 Slightly related: Did I miss any bannings? Things got heated around here yesterday, and I see Ace's note in the sidebar.


Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:07 AM (NOIQH)


I think most of us regullars have figured out how not to step in front of Uncle Ace when he's having one of those tirades again.


We might step near the drunken brawler, but not in front of his wild swings.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (TOk1P)

599 578 I also like mayo on my Fries

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM
============================================

Garlic aioli on fries made in rosemary olive oil.

Yum.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (Zs4uk)

600 I put the hot dogs on top of the chili and then drench it with more ketchup and some mayo.

Talk about yummy!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (WVsWD)

601
Is the GOPe's endorsement going to be the kiss of death for Cruz?


Posted by: Joe Mama at March 12, 2016 10:06 AM (NQmg1)

Well, no it wouldn't but that is likely not going to be an issue.

If the GOPe dislikes Trump enough to Choose Cruz, anyone with sense will see it as abject surrender on their part cause Cruz certainly isn't making any deals with them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (NPofj)

602 Sorry, redbanzai.

Here's your Kitty Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0zyeeGNYU

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:14 AM (OQ9R7)

603 The braunvolk/brownshirts employed the threat of violence veto in ChitCargo to silence opposing voices.

Remind me again: who is using fascist tactics?

Gonna be an interesting spring/summer/autumn. I declined to use the term "fall" for the third season as this nation is already in free-fall.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 12, 2016 10:14 AM (NQmg1)

604 "Garlic aioli on fries made in rosemary olive oil.

Yum.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (Zs4uk)

Thats only for cultured people like you. Not for us barbarians that pee in the shower.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (WVsWD)

605
I put the hot dogs on top of the chili and then drench it with more ketchup and some mayo.



Talk about yummy!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (WVsWD)
============================================

Can I interest you in some psychotropic medications?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (dFi94)

606 I love good fruitcake.

One of our elderly neighbors still makes them from scratch.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (ptqRm)

607 "Trump poisoned my cat" has been "shaky" off & on for a while, going back to around the end of December.

Just my 2¢

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (KCxzN)

608 Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 12, 2016 09:42 AM (KkVB6)

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Mandy Not, I feel for you. We got new pew missals and new hymnals this year and we use a good bit of chant in what we do but the new books have it written in standard musical notation and everyone seems to be doing pretty well at joining in. I don't doubt that it helps that it's a very traditional, albeit Novus Ordo, Dominican parish and everyone expects more traditional music. And it helps that we have a wonderful music director.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (LJYIn)

609 The tequila is for you, not her, silly.
Posted by: Fake sign language guy at March 12, 2016 09:57 AM (NeFrd)


Nah. Last time I drank tequila I shaved one eyebrow off with a naked Gillette double edged blade.

I'm not exactly sure why.

Or why I still have a nose.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (q2o38)

610 there is a very old saying, "show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are"



I guess for me, there is a corollary " show me who your voters are and I'll tell you what you believe"

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (zOTsN)


The Republican Party has for DECADES relied on the support of racist pigs in many many states, not just the South, and quietly whispers things that kinda sorta let them know they know they're there.


Surely you know this. People sometimes like to pretend they don't, but I never take seriously any comment from a serious person who says they don't know this.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (TOk1P)

611 Who puts mayo on hot dogs?

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (pUDQf)

612 If the GOPe dislikes Trump enough to Choose Cruz,
anyone with sense will see it as abject surrender on their part cause
Cruz certainly isn't making any deals with them.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (NPofj)
Had not thought of that.+1

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (NQmg1)

613 "{hands Slapweasel his jammies}"

It's time, guy. You're getting punchy. Don't forget to brush your teeth."
-Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:12 AM (eBsWa)

*Yawn!*

I did just hand-out a Kitty, didn't I?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (OQ9R7)

614 Can I interest you in some psychotropic medications?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (dFi94)

No.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (WVsWD)

615 Thats only for cultured people like you. Not for us barbarians that pee in the shower.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (WVsWD)


I eat that while peeing in the shower.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)

616 The Schrödinger Sessions is a three-day workshop for science fiction writers offering a "crash course" in modern physics. In DC in July. [dri]

Is there an HTML session for smart military cob-loggers? nice umlaut, though...

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 10:17 AM (dH97I)

617 You're on the Lutefisk list.

j/k - I would never do that to a moron. Or any living human being.


Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (dFi94)


If I knew what lutefisk was, I would likely be scared but I thank you for leaving me off that list anyway

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:17 AM (NPofj)

618 "I love good fruitcake.

One of our elderly neighbors still makes them from scratch.
"
-Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (ptqRm)

Yeah, right? Them's good eats, man!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:17 AM (OQ9R7)

619 If the GOPe dislikes Trump enough to Choose Cruz,
anyone with sense will see it as abject surrender on their part cause
Cruz certainly isn't making any deals with them.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:13 AM (NPofj)


Isn't he??? You know this... how?


I sure as hell hope he doesn't, but I have to wonder. Until I see otherwise, I'm not assuming he hasn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:17 AM (TOk1P)

620 >.I think most of us regullars have figured out how not to step in front
of Uncle Ace when he's having one of those tirades again.


Sounds good. I'm down with banning the recent influx of trolls if they don't heed repeated warnings and pleas from other commenters to tone it down.
Things are going pear-shaped all over!!

Now, what was that talk about cake...?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

621 I eat that while peeing in the shower.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)
=======================================

Oookay then. Think I'll go drown myself in Pintrest for awhile to wipe that image out of my brain .....

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 10:18 AM (dFi94)

622 "I eat that while peeing in the shower."
-Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)

Send this guy to the front. He's good.

-Moron [x]

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:18 AM (OQ9R7)

623 Don't take me seriously then BurtTC, because that's the most ridiculous spew I've ever heard of. Decades of racists in the GOP. Ok , right... got it. oh, and it's whispered so the left and Democrats and especially the media never catch on.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:18 AM (e7T6D)

624 Amazingly, TFG is still putting out press releases on his "search for a SCOTUS nominee". I sort of forgot he hasn't yet thrown in that particular towel. He never misses a chance to start dumpster fires.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 10:19 AM (TxJGV)

625 Is it gluten free?

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:19 AM (nXeSu)

626 I see Cruz in a different light this morning...
Posted by: William Eaton at March 12, 2016 10:10 AM (q52Ma)

Right, and the whole visit Trump thing was a way to try to be a bridge, if necessary.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 10:19 AM (dH97I)

627 I really think Sanders himself would not authorize a disruption at a Trump event. Did MoveOn.org do it and are most of them Sanders supporters?-yes.

Shits-for-Berns admit that the anti-Trump "protest" was well-organized:
https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/708459586127134720

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (WOyz5)

628 So the overeducated neighbor just called, and the topic was the Chicago events...

"That Trump, he just doesn't like free speech, demanding that protesters stop interrupting".


We really need to move back from behind enemy lines.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (ptqRm)

629

Now, what was that talk about cake...?


Fruitcake recipe:

1 part fruit

2 parts cake

5 parts bourbon with which to soak in all in

Otherwise known as Hillary!'s breakfast.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (LUgeY)

630 I think this particular brand of nasty shit, shutting down free speech, is rule 3 in the commie playbook.

Get rubes to go act like assholes and cause a riot. Then, opposition silenced, because he had to cancel to protect people.

I'm pretty sick of that shit and they are pretty good at it.

Like I said, either we continue to let it happen or we stop it.

They aren't going to stop it. And THEY is a big group of nasties.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:11 AM (pUDQf)


And comment-swarming is the Internet version of it. Just check out the comment-cesspools of many other "right" web sites. Idiocy and ugliness abounds, in such quantities that the comment sections of those sites are worse than useless.

So, three cheers for the new banning policy from this corner.

Moderation is essential, in life and on the Internet. Sadly, for too many, that moderation must come from other people rather than from themselves.

Posted by: The Roman Republic at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (s5o+q)

631 Now to November will be excellent practice for The Burning Times. A prequel if you will.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (vP09u)

632 Another day, another opportunity to bag on Trump.

Posted by: Pastorius at March 12, 2016 10:21 AM (gMAUH)

633 Watching Neil Cavuto talk to a Fox reporter in Chicago who explained that the crowd outside the Trump event were controllable, but there were just too many who had gotten inside the event - that was what they (police/Trump?) were concerned about and why they decided to cancel. It would have been too hard to get those people out without starting a riot or somesuch.

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (hgBpU)

634 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:20 AM (ptqRm)


We truly are overrun with stupid people.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (pUDQf)

635 The Republican Party has for DECADES relied on the support of racist pigs in many many states, not just the South, and quietly whispers things that kinda sorta let them know they know they're there.


Surely you know this. People sometimes like to pretend they don't, but I never take seriously any comment from a serious person who says they don't know this.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (TOk1P)


You misspelled "Democratic Party".

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (s5o+q)

636 Sidebar item:

"So whose bright idea was it to have a Trump rally in the middle of uber-liberal Chicago?" - @EyeOnPolitics
---
"Somebody who thought this was still America." - @instapundit

Nail, head.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (39g3+)

637 I present this without comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

*90s rock w/ prescient lyrics*

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at March 12, 2016 10:23 AM (AJeMv)

638 "I eat that while peeing in the shower."

So now I have a mental picture of him standing naked in the shower.

Hot dog in one hand.
Dick in the other.


AGGHHH!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:23 AM (ptqRm)

639 Welp,

Insty has the right view on Democrat Brown Shirts-

and a nice solution:

"Exit question: Since MoveOn has been so public about taking credit, will Trump sue them for conspiring to deprive him of his civil rights? Because I would, and the discovery would be fascinating."


Not only would that discourage other Democrat-organized Brown Shirt activity-

it would give Trump a YUUUUGE boost in the polls.

Esp. with where discovery would lead.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 10:23 AM (2rmvw)

640 Now, what was that talk about cake...?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:18 AM (NOIQH)


I have a pear bread recipe I will post sometime. It does require shredding and freezing my own pears so I can make it in the winter, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:24 AM (q2o38)

641 We truly are overrun with stupid people.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (pUDQf)

It's the best we could do!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at March 12, 2016 10:24 AM (dH97I)

642 I hope ace and the mods will reconsider this policy:

>>>"I'm out" sort of posts are just bait for the banning -- I wouldn't want you to break your promise, after all. Staying firm to your promises is the mark of a man, and I want you to be Men. So the "I'm out" brigades are banned, in order to safeguard their own virtue.

Just my two cents, but that seems a little harsh. I've had a few meltdowns on here and I'd like to think I've matured since then. I would hope other people would have the chance to do a little maturing and have a second chance at coming back.

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2016 10:24 AM (QCc6B)

643 Isn't he??? You know this... how?


I sure as hell hope he doesn't, but I have to wonder. Until I see otherwise, I'm not assuming he hasn't.


Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 10:17 AM (TOk1P)

Burt, given Cruz's history and what Ace calls his "brand" (I call it his core beliefs), I feel very comfortable that Cruz is not making any deals.
Nor does he have to... this election cycle has shown just how powerless the GOPe has become.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (NPofj)

644 People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs. That's how they recognize each other.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (iQIUe)

645 "The Republican Party has for DECADES relied on the support of racist pigs in many many states, not just the South, and quietly whispers things that kinda sorta let them know they know they're there. "


This is where we can point the blame at New York based right wing writers...

Somehow, writers who suppose to be on our side adopted the position that those people who opposed affirmative action (out of fairness and practical concerns) were KKK racists, ready to lynch anyone who looked sideways at one of their white women.

Instead of correctly identifying the real racists as being the liberals who support the public school teacher's unions and quietly accepting that urban kids can't learn because of some genetic inferiority, they point to republicans who demand accountability and results instead of just increasing spending.

Why our writers have this opinion, I don't know. But they have it ingrained in their souls that the farther away from the East Coast one goes, especially in a southern direction, the more racist people become.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (Zs4uk)

646 Amazingly, TFG is still putting out press releases on his "search for a SCOTUS nominee".

The search continues for the real nominee...

FORE!!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (n22zQ)

647


"Exit question: Since MoveOn has been so public about taking credit, will Trump sue them for conspiring to deprive him of his civil rights? Because I would, and the discovery would be fascinating."



Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease?

With sugar mayo on top?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (LUgeY)

648 607 "Trump poisoned my cat" has been "shaky" off & on for a while, going back to around the end of December.

Just my 2 cents
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2016 10:15 AM (KCxzN)


The comment I saw disappear simply said, "#nevercruz", which I took as an innocent joke. As a Trump supporter and a cat person, I always took his nick as a joke, too.


(I had to edit your comment to get past the red wall o' text.)

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:26 AM (sdi6R)

649 "People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs."

That's when they aren't stuffing SPAM into their maws.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:26 AM (ptqRm)

650 "Another day, another opportunity to bag on Trump."
-Posted by: Pastorius at March 12, 2016 10:21 AM (gMAUH)

Here comes the Cult
Dee-da-lee-dee
Here comes the Cult
Dee-da-lee-dee
And I say...

Little Darlin?
Can you just stick that somewhere else, man?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (OQ9R7)

651 644
People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs Spam sammiches. That's how they recognize each other.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!


FIFY

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (e7T6D)

652 Cruz on Trump riots; only 3 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxBp4IFe_I

From my recollection of last night it's 30 seconds of blaming the rioters and 1.5 minutes blaming Trump using the 'creating a climate of hate' style argument.

It's only 3 minutes long; watch it.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (WOyz5)

653 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:22 AM (39g3+)

Apparently freedom is afforded to only one side of the debate nowadays.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (Zu3d9)

654 >>Another day, another opportunity to bag on Trump.

Yeah, that....I'm just skipping over that stuff lately (candidate bashing) because it's gotten so heated.

>>*90s rock w/ prescient lyrics*

Knew it would be that song. We've been living it since 2007 with Obama. It's why someone like Trump is being embraced by many now.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (NOIQH)

655 I understand bannings are a necessary evil, but don't trim out all of the rowdy elements.

I like my ace o spades a little salty.

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2016 10:28 AM (QCc6B)

656 People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs. That's how they recognize each other.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (iQIUe)

I thought that was Pineapple on pizza?

The things you learn here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:28 AM (WVsWD)

657 So now Mrs VIA is obsessed with watching a live Eagle Cam of the babies.

She: I can't tell which one is the mom and which one is the dad.


Me: is one of them always cleaning up the nest, and making the other a sammich?


Yup...that ended well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:29 AM (ptqRm)

658 "People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs."

Reggie! Make me another!

Posted by: Barky The 0 at March 12, 2016 10:29 AM (yddCj)

659 ""Somebody who thought this was still America." - @instapundit

Nail, head."


Just bears repeating.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (bceFx)

660 He didn't "blame Trump" for the riots. He did compare his style to Trumps in engaging protesters at campaign rallys. Cruz promoted himself as he should, screw that Democrat Trump.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (wnwJC)

661 "Yup...that ended well."
-Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:29 AM (ptqRm)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (OQ9R7)

662 "People from the state of Hawaii put mayo on hotdogs."



That's when they aren't stuffing SPAM into their maws.





Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:26 AM (ptqRm)

A co-worker back from vacation there said you can order spam dishes in restaurants there.

Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (HtUkt)

663 So we all agree,
Basically Trump was asking for it?


(Veiled reference to the Religion of Peace)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (ptqRm)

664 I would hope other people would have the chance to do a little maturing and have a second chance at coming back.

Few bans here are permanent, from what I've seen.

Since MoveOn has been so public about taking credit

Isn't it illegal to foment unrest and disrupt public events, particularly with violence? I am confident a smart prosecutor could work up a RICO type case based around their repeatedly setting up crime-riddled riots.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (39g3+)

665 Mexico needs a mass exorcism. You can't make this sgut up.

http://tinyurl.com/j6mc8fr

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (eBsWa)

666 There is nothing wrong with Spam if it is cooked right.

It has to be crisp and maybe just a little burnt around the edges and yes, you should put Mayo
on your Spam Sammiches.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (WVsWD)

667 Corgi butt or loaf of bread?

https://goo.gl/YdPL2p

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (iQIUe)

668 It was kind of amusing yesterday that ace went ballistic over "fascism" because of a grabbing and shoving incident in a crowded room.

Then the Left proceeded to put on a clinic of what real fascism looks like.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (sdi6R)

669 For decades? Really Burt? Southern racists for decades were southern democrats. They filibustered civil rights legislation. Civil rights legislation passed only with the votes of republicans. Go to the LBJ museum. It's true

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:32 AM (zOTsN)

670 The youth group at my church are working today and tomorrow to make and deliver flood buckets and sandwiches for people.

(What's a flood bucket, you ask? Yes, you asked, I heard you, even with your mouth full of fruit cake. http://tinyurl.com/zwj2ybq)

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:32 AM (nXeSu)

671 "There is nothing wrong with Spam if it is cooked right. "

Same with scrapple.

And I love me some good scrapple.

*The great SPAM/Scrapple war of 2016 begins.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:32 AM (ptqRm)

672 Y'all know the AoS rule when talking about Hawt Chicks.

2 questions:

Is this a rule, or more of a guideline?

In either case, is this the driving factor behind the plethora of Yoko and Lena pictures?

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at March 12, 2016 10:32 AM (nQpdK)

673 uh... he kind sure did blame the riots on Trump creating an environment.... and didn't bother to point out this was a coordinated protest, by the left, organized by the left to shut down a political rally. But whatever.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (e7T6D)

674 Vizsla lives matter! Time to go outside and hike, my dogs are telling me.

Posted by: MTF at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (TxJGV)

675 >>Apparently freedom is afforded to only one side of the debate nowadays.....


Not nowadays - for some time. I'm glad we have conservatives like Shapiro and Coulter who will face the protesters to speak on campuses. We need GOP candidates who are willing to stand up to protesters, because the Left has been doing this crap for decades.

Cruz has been great with hecklers - he has the debate skills to engage them in a discussion, and it's typically just one or two hecklers. However, the yuuuge crowds like in Chicago are (intentionally) scarier. What is needed are authorities willing to stop them from inhibiting free speech.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (NOIQH)

676 Trump has been honest in saying he will make deals and bring to the table at least some flexibility. He has said you have to approach it this way and it is not news. He said it before Iowa.

Has Cruz been this open about such matters? Has Cruz said he will make deals and be somewhat flexible? Has Cruz said anything that suggests he will not be just another standard Model 5 Republican?

After hearing what Cruz said yesterday about the Chicago shit, can anyone truly claim Cruz is immune to temptation?





Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (MQEz6)

677 Mexico needs a mass exorcism. You can't make this sgut up.

http://tinyurl.com/j6mc8fr
Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (eBsWa)
_________________________

That country has really gone around the bend.

They need to step back and take a serious look at themselves.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (df5V4)

678 "There is nothing wrong with Spam if it is cooked right. "

Same with scrapple.

And I love me some good scrapple.

*The great SPAM/Scrapple war of 2016 begins.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:32 AM (ptqRm)


And then there's haggis.

Oh, yeah, people get weird about haggis, but all it really is is Scottish sausage.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:34 AM (s5o+q)

679 So we all agree,

Basically Trump was asking for it?



(Veiled reference to the Religion of Peace)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:30 AM (ptqRm)
_______
If nobody has been it yet, DT did interviews regarding Pam Geller and the Draw Mohammed contest. Clip at Patterico.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 10:34 AM (MIKMs)

680 Good goin', Mama AJ. But I don't see any bleach on that list. That's the only thing that will save your house from mold if it gets flooded.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:34 AM (eBsWa)

681 Protesters- "We stopped Trump!" Not, "we entered into a lively debate where our point was made and Trump didn't have a good answer."

Just, we stopped him from speaking.

Pretty much tells you everything. These idiots don't even realize they are pawns in a facist army.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:35 AM (pUDQf)

682 Don't say "you're out" of Valu-Rite Vodka!
That's evidently a bannable offense!

Posted by: Luke at March 12, 2016 10:35 AM (p9Mib)

683 It was kind of amusing yesterday that ace went ballistic over "fascism" because of a grabbing and shoving incident in a crowded room.

Then the Left proceeded to put on a clinic of what real fascism looks like.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:31 AM (sdi6R)




Yep.


It does seem that God likes His little jokes.


Almost everytime I'm sure I have something exactly right-

I get shown just how I'm wrong.


Frustrating it is.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 10:35 AM (2rmvw)

684 Kasich on Fox with Neil Cavuto blaming Trump for last night. Had not said one word about the protesters by the time my husband changed the channel.

Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (v0/PR)

685 >>The great SPAM/Scrapple war of 2016 begins.

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME CHOOSE

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (nXeSu)

686 The search continues for the real nominee...

Obama is gonna hire OJ to help him look for the real nominee!

Seriously, he seems to be showing zero real interest in replacing Scalia. I think he just doesn't care any more and is riding it out living in the mansion and partying.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (39g3+)

687 673 uh... he kind sure did blame the riots on Trump creating an environment.... and didn't bother to point out this was a coordinated protest, by the left, organized by the left to shut down a political rally. But whatever.
Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:33 AM (e7T6D)

He also mentioned accusations of violence against the press. I was a Cruz/Walker guy, and this stuff is actually pushing me towards Trump. I don't want to vote for Trump, but Cruz is not giving me "affirmative" - to use his word - reasons to vote for him.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (dH97I)

688 That's when they aren't stuffing SPAM into their maws.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 10:26 AM (ptqRm)


True "Hawaiian Delight" pizza is Spam and pineapple.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (q2o38)

689 So, if hundreds of Trumpm supporters invade a Bernie rally, get rowdy and shut it down, Bernie gets the blame, right?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (3myMJ)

690 Mexico needs a mass exorcism enema. You can't make this sgut up.


But really.... Mexico needs an invasion... say... about 150 miles in would do. Then negotiate the new more southern wall.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:37 AM (e7T6D)

691 You know, whenever the presidential campaign rolls around, my mind keeps going back to that thing from the Bible . . .

"Put not your trust in princes . . . "

Presidents can make things worse, and usually do. They suck at making things better, though. That's YOUR job. (And mine, too, yes.)

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:37 AM (s5o+q)

692 There is nothing wrong with Spam if it is cooked right.

It always had those horrific disgusting gristley chunks that turned my stomach, but supposedly they've changed the recipe and its not so nasty any more.

These idiots don't even realize they are pawns in a facist army.

*considers reposting on the definition of fascism vs tyranny again*
*decides its pointless*

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (39g3+)

693 Protesters- "We stopped Trump!" Not, "we entered into a lively debate where our point was made and Trump didn't have a good answer."

Just, we stopped him from speaking.

Pretty much tells you everything. These idiots don't even realize they are pawns in a facist army.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:35 AM (pUDQf)


Does fascism have a populist component, or does populism have a fascist component?

Possibly not an "or" question, actually.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (s5o+q)

694 As I said last night, if Trump was a fascist, he would have ordered his hired goons to curb-stomp the protesters.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (sdi6R)

695 Trump speaks at 6 pm tonight in KC, same part of town as the Big 12 Basketball tourney. Mayor is tweeting to remind everyone that Kansas City isn't Chicago because we are better than that.

Posted by: Just a deb at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NrrrR)

696 "Oh, yeah, people get weird about haggis, but all it really is is Scottish sausage."


I've heard haggis can actually be pretty tasty. I will try one day.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (bceFx)

697 Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 10:36 AM (3myMJ

No, then we'd have a first amendment problem.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (pUDQf)

698 From my recollection of last night it's 30 seconds
of blaming the rioters and 1.5 minutes blaming Trump using the 'creating
a climate of hate' style argument.



It's only 3 minutes long; watch it.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:27 AM (WOyz5)

The protesters were wrong and the police were wrong to give them the heckler's veto. Full stop.

Their action do not however mean that Trump hasn't been creating an uncivil atmosphere at his rallies and encouraging his supporters to commit violence. There have been multiple examples of this over the past number of weeks including the reporter that was assaulted and the incident in NC where one of his supporters punched a protester who had already been subdued and was being lead from the venue. The same protester was so emboldened, maybe because Trump has loudly said on several occasions that he would pay violent supporters legal fees, that he told the press "the next time we see him, we might have to kill him".

http://tinyurl.com/hvrksyh



Trump is not excused from encouraging behavior like this just because the protesters are wrong.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NPofj)

699 >> But I don't see any bleach on that list.

Yeah, I don't think bottles of it go in the bucket but it gets used fer shurr.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (nXeSu)

700 Mayor is tweeting to remind everyone that Kansas City isn't Chicago because we are better than that.
Posted by: Just a deb at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NrrrR)

Word.

Posted by: Mayor of Baltimore at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (dH97I)

701

I make scrapple out of Spam. And eat it while peeing in the shower. Sometimes someone else's shower...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (vP09u)

702 wow. The Windows 10 upgrade is totes uninspiring.

On the bright side, the upgrade from Windows 8.1 has corrected the bug that caused the calculator app in 8.1 to fail. Yay!

I'm convinced the IT Profession ruined computer technology and operating system development.

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2016 10:41 AM (UzPAd)

703 >>So, if hundreds of Trumpm supporters invade a Bernie rally, get rowdy and shut it down, Bernie gets the blame, right?


Recall the way the MSM covered the Tea Party protests and angry citizens confronting their Congressperson at Obamacare town halls.....yeah, the paid, bussed in union thugs with their matching Ts and printed signs were characterized better than the citizens they harassed at those events.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:41 AM (NOIQH)

704 Mayor is tweeting to remind everyone that Kansas City isn't Chicago because we are better than that.
Posted by: Just a deb at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NrrrR)


Did the tweet include a wink and a nod?

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:41 AM (s5o+q)

705 Does fascism have a populist component, or does populism have a fascist component?



Possibly not an "or" question, actually.
Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (s5o+q)


For those of you with 30 minutes to spend and an interest in the history of Fascism.

Ralph Raico is an angel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGoBQ1vb7vs

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (q2o38)

706
As I said last night, if Trump was a fascist, he would have ordered his hired goons to curb-stomp the protesters.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (sdi6R)


He doesn't have that many hired goons.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (NPofj)

707 Okay... I need to tend to my Fantasy Baseball League, (Nerd). I may have an open spot this season, but you guys aren't smart enough...

*snaps on own finger!*

Aghhh!

Later, gators!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (OQ9R7)

708 Mine too. He really needs to start pedaling backwards just as fast as he can.

Why is it so seemingly difficult to actually place the blame for that protest where it belongs: on the protestors and the Soros/Bernie types who are financing them?

If Little Billy Ayers doesn't like Trump, that gives me yet another reason to vote for him.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 09:19 AM (LUgeY)

Yep, Trump is now my chosen SMOD. What does Cruz think he is doing?

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 10:43 AM (LTDSy)

709 Laters Slapwzl

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:43 AM (e7T6D)

710 701

I make scrapple out of Spam. And eat it while peeing in the shower. Sometimes someone else's shower...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (vP09u)


People are now learning how to save time in the morning.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:44 AM (Zs4uk)

711 I have posted this before. "Stolen History"-the racist history of the Democrat History tskrn from information by Black historian Frantz Kebreau/ I like the video because of the banjo soundtrack too. It has a lot of pictures of AA Democrat politicians because I think it came out when Obama was running the second time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxkw4fS1K7c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 10:44 AM (w4NZ8)

712 Mayor is tweeting to remind everyone that Kansas City isn't Chicago because we are better than that.
Posted by: Just a deb at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NrrrR)

I can shut down that speech in 2 hours.

Posted by: Restrain That Tune at March 12, 2016 10:44 AM (dH97I)

713 I make scrapple out of Spam. And eat it while peeing in the shower. Sometimes someone else's shower...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (vP09u)

That was you?!? You owe me some spam and scrubbing bubbles!

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (NPofj)

714 http://tinyurl.com/z3yd38v

Rubio, who I am not a fan of, give a great answer to CNN calling him a climate denier.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (VdICR)

715 Sing to Jesus. From your heart, sing to the God who loves you and gave Himself for you. As long as the songs do that, I'm good.

****

Love. This.

God bless you, grammie!

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (KkVB6)

716 If the leftist mobs are acting like this in the primaries with media cover just imagine what crap they will pull during the general election.

I'm really not looking forward to a compressed rerun of 1968-1972.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (r6ujM)

717

Does fascism have a populist component, or does populism have a fascist component?


Please 'splain it to me how not wanting American jobs to be filled with cheap foreign labor is fascistic.

Also, you can tell me how adhering to our Constitutional Principles and the rule of law is fascistic.

So fighting off the New World Order that seeks to destroy the last vestiges of personal freedom on Earth is wrong?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (LUgeY)

718 Trump is not excused from encouraging behavior like this just because the protesters are wrong.

Yeah, I know its viscerally appealing to think of dumb hippie protesters getting a boot to the belly when they disrupt a speech but that's the price of liberty: you gotta let people be stupid jerks. Escorting them out for being disruptive is one thing, but beating them up in the process is another.

But here's the thing: in the past, hippies were pretty mellow. They would passively resist by being hard to drag out, but didn't fight back or try to avoid security. They considered being arrested a badge of honor, being dragged out was proof they were right (in their eyes). Today's idiots act like its some cosmic injustice that they aren't allowed to throw a tantrum, fight back, refuse to go, and run around trying to avoid the security like an infant, then try to sneak back in.

So, they're kind of encouraging rougher behavior to put a lid on that sort of activity quickly and efficiently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (39g3+)

719 OK, time to check this one. Bear with, got a lotta places I post from.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (D0J8L)

720 Good nigh..er, morning, Slapweasel.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (eBsWa)

721 redbanzi, would you not like to opine about the President of the United States actively encouraging this behavior against the GOP in particular and political opponents in general? Would that not be MORE accurate since those are the idiots doing the protesting? No, I suppose not, cause it doesn't fit your Trump-hate narrative. Yeah, it's all Trump. Cruz is awesome. Too bad for you Jeb! dropped, right?

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:46 AM (e7T6D)

722 Come to Tiki Iniki! We honor Hawaii culture and Spam!

Posted by: Todd Rundgren at March 12, 2016 10:46 AM (gwG9s)

723 Whew! Not that I expect to have (I mostly said "out for a while" and avoided drama), but Ace's wording has me a touch worried.

Still, if anything it would be my work address, which is probably for the best for productivity's sake anyway

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:46 AM (D0J8L)

724 I grew up in Chicago. Disliked it and never looked back. Now, I hate it. I look at heyjackass and see what were one decent neighborhoods are now war zones. Fuck them. And it is never the culture's fault.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 10:46 AM (iQIUe)

725 Good for the KC mayor. He's probably a fucking batshit crazy lefty kook, but good nonetheless.

If the US had a geographic asshole, Chicago is it. Ground Zero for the communist movement and they ain't letting Trump muscle into their "turf".

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 12, 2016 10:47 AM (89T5c)

726
Trump is not excused from encouraging behavior like this just because the protesters are wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NPofj)

The only thing Trump did to encourage this behavior is become popular enough to threaten the status quo.

The other candidates don't get riots because they are not important.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 10:47 AM (MQEz6)

727 706
As I said last night, if Trump was a fascist, he would have ordered his hired goons to curb-stomp the protesters.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:39 AM (sdi6R)


He doesn't have that many hired goons.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (NPofj)


Well, he needs to up his game if he wants to play in the Major Leagues of Fascism.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:47 AM (sdi6R)

728 late, but @77

And the Mormon Tabernacle Christmas program is 99% obscure songs, and 1% the traditional carols that everyone is expecting to hear.

Posted by: artemis at March 12, 2016 10:48 AM (AwPyG)

729 Trump is not excused from encouraging behavior like this just because the protesters are wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NPofj)

Yeah, because being nice to the protesters has really worked wonders. You know who creates the behavior? The protesters who invade events and disrupt them. If they want to peacefully protest outside, fine. But I don't care if they beat up inside the event hall. They are there to ruin the event for everyone else and deny them their 1st Amendment rights.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 10:48 AM (LTDSy)

730 Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (q2o3

The only one aspect which differentiates fascism from other forms of totalitarian socialism is that it purports to allow private ownership of enterprises, while still imposing state control over those enterprises.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:48 AM (s5o+q)

731 Kent State Hippies. Naw... not all hippies are the same. Some of 'em just want to bomb and throw rocks , agitate and then play victims of oppression. Same shit

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:48 AM (e7T6D)

732 I'm sure, Cruz new right then, right there at the time he was interviewed that the protests were "organized". Cruz said just what he needed to say, Trump can defend himself just fine. Wonder if Trump will still give money to Dems in future?

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 10:49 AM (wnwJC)

733 He doesn't have that many hired goons.

I think he needs to put out a "Help Wanted". If you don't push back hard it's going to get worse.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:49 AM (D0J8L)

734 >>So, they're kind of encouraging rougher behavior to put a lid on that sort of activity quickly and efficiently.

Like the protesters at Ben Shapiro's recent speech at a CA university - they purposely blocked the exits, essentially holding Ben and the attendees captive.
This is not peaceful protesting we're seeing lately - these young shock troops, such as the #BLM crowd, who want it to get physical.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:49 AM (NOIQH)

735 I attended a tea party rally in 2010 that ended up infiltrated by a bunch of Organizing for America jerks.

They would wander into the crowd, and as soon as someone starting speaking at the podium, would begin screaming non stop some infantile nonsense. "Liar, go home, we support Obama, racist" you name it, they screamed it. You would move away and toward the podium to try to hear the speaker and another one would slide in next to you and do the same thing.

We need to understand what has happened to your young people and also the number of fascist/communists we have in our midst. We cannot ignore this anymore.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 12, 2016 10:49 AM (rKNmI)

736 *knew*

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 10:49 AM (wnwJC)

737 The only one aspect which differentiates fascism from other forms of
totalitarian socialism is that it purports to allow private ownership of
enterprises, while still imposing state control over those enterprises.


You mean like the modern regulatory state?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:50 AM (D0J8L)

738 Please 'splain it to me how not wanting American jobs to be filled with cheap foreign labor is fascistic.

Also, you can tell me how adhering to our Constitutional Principles and the rule of law is fascistic.

So fighting off the New World Order that seeks to destroy the last vestiges of personal freedom on Earth is wrong?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (LUgeY)


I find your reaction to be just a tad hypersensitive.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:50 AM (s5o+q)

739 Just when I thought this campaign couldn't get any stupider.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 10:50 AM (Nwg0u)

740 You mean like the modern regulatory state?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:50 AM (D0J8L)


Yep.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (s5o+q)

741 Morning horde.

Where's the gofundme for krakatoas alcohol ration?


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (hlMPp)

742

If you ever get to the Minnesota State Fair, there is a Spam pavilion where you can try all the flavors, including ones not sold in the US.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (vP09u)

743 uh... he kind sure did blame the riots on Trump creating an environment.... and didn't bother to point out this was a coordinated protest, by the left, organized by the left to shut down a political rally. But whatever.

I wish he had been a lot more aggressive about blaming the protesters and pointing out how bad the left has been in this area. However, he is also correct that Trump has been edging in the same direction, and that is a problem.

One thing that has to be recognized is that the "tit-for-tat" strategy for dealing with violence - advocated here in the comments quite often - is as likely to cause escalation as it is to force the other side to reconsider their actions. It is a paradox that feuding cultures have to deal with - the credible threat of reciprocal violence is an excellent deterrent, but once violence is committed it tends to continue until one or both sides are exhausted or completely destroyed. Beowulf has a lot of commentary on this.

Many moons ago I found myself arguing against those who advocated abandoning the Constitution temporarily in order to convince the left to agree to go back to the Constitution for mutual protection. I think this is an extension of the same argument.

The objection - that passivity gains us only defeat - is also true. OTOH, simply doing unto them what they have done to us is a recipe for escalation, not a return to civility and the Constitution.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (bZ7mE)

744 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:45 AM (39g3+)

No, that isn't the price of liberty. I don't get to walk into an event just to disrupt it. That's not liberty. That's purposefully trying to deny someone else their liberty. If you want to protest, do it outside the event.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (LTDSy)

745 The left has organized goons. The right does not have a similar apparatus

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 10:52 AM (zOTsN)

746 They're not protesters. They're trespassers denying others the right to assemble as they wish (usually after having stood in line for 3 or 4 hours to get in). If you don't understand that, you aren't bright enough to be commenting here.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:52 AM (WOyz5)

747
HotAir: Conservatives align with Black Lives Matter in rush to find blame for Chicago protests
by Jazz Shaw

the truly dismaying part of last nights social media onslaught was the sight of #tcot conservative thought leaders gleefully joining ranks with the supporters of MoveOn, Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders operatives for the sake of blaming Donald Trump for a protest march and the cancellation of a what was undeniably an exercise in free speech.

I still believe that Donald Trump is far from the best choice for our nominee and that Ted Cruz offers us the best chance for victory with a solid conservative. But the more I see these over the top reactions to everything related to Donald Trump Im almost tempted to cast a primary vote for the real estate mogul just out of spite.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (kdS6q)

748 Here's the deal; to Left/Liberal/Progressives any display of any Conservative/Patriotic/Republican sentiment or ideal creates a 'provocative' or 'hostile' or 'intimidating' environment. They are thus, justified, and even engaging in a divine purpose by disrupting such displays.

That is at the ground level, of course, by the useful idiots.

Those further up the ladder are political (and when I say 'political', I mean in the Soviet sense) operatives/opportunists who know that the media will provide their thuggish mobs with upbeat positive spin.

You will have a very difficult time finding in the MSM any criticism of what happened last night. There will not be editorials denouncing organized intimidation, because, after all, intimidating (and even blaming) Trump supporters is perfectly fine with them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (9mTYi)

749 The left acts atrocious and it doesnt get reported. The right reacts and they are painted as fascists. It gets old and of course the msm is responsible. The DM is the worse.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (iQIUe)

750 Do we know for sure that Trump didn't hire the protesters?

Ted Cruz wants to know.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (PvCxa)

751 Just think what it's going to be like in Cleveland this summer. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (Fmupd)

752 740 You mean like the modern regulatory state?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 10:50 AM (D0J8L)

Yep.
Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:51 AM (s5o+q)



Fascism is not about armbands, jackboots, or street fighting. At its root, it's an economic system that is an outgrowth of socialism.

Jonah Goldberg ought to write a book about it.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 10:54 AM (sdi6R)

753 Some people have all the luck

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/selection-du-weekend-183-46.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 10:54 AM (viJS2)

754 I'm really not looking forward to a compressed rerun of 1968-1972

Oh no it won't be like that.


It will be far worse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:54 AM (39g3+)

755 Yeah, because being nice to the protesters has
really worked wonders. You know who creates the behavior? The
protesters who invade events and disrupt them. If they want to
peacefully protest outside, fine. But I don't care if they beat up
inside the event hall. They are there to ruin the event for everyone
else and deny them their 1st Amendment rights.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 10:48 AM (LTDSy)

Then you are part of the problem. You don't get to beat people up because they annoy you. If they are trespassing, then the police will remove them. I they are not, then you just have to deal with their presence even if you find their speech repugnant.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:54 AM (NPofj)

756 So, two hours until the nephews birthday party.


It's a dodge-ball party.

First, I'm shocked that there is a venue that would put its neck out like that.

Second, is it wrong for me to laugh if the kids cry

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (hlMPp)

757

The sun is out, I'm not hungover, I have the entire weekend free to myself. Guns of Naveronne is on sat this afternoon. Nice.

Practice your Combat Breathing.

Repeat to yourselves "Today is going to be a good day."

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (vP09u)

758 They're not protesters. They're trespassers denying others the right to assemble as they wish (usually after having stood in line for 3 or 4 hours to get in). If you don't understand that, you aren't bright enough to be commenting here.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:52 AM (WOyz5)


Exactly. Protester/disruptors are violating a civil right guaranteed by the First Amendment: the right to freedom of assembly.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (s5o+q)

759 If Trump wants my support he must promise to arrest 99% of Congress.

Smash the Communist left and the GOPe.

Posted by: artist at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (TwnkX)

760 746 "They're not protesters. They're trespassers denying others the right to assemble as they wish (usually after having stood in line for 3 or 4 hours to get in). If you don't understand that, you aren't bright enough to be commenting here."


Can you imagine what the narrative would have been if this was a Obama rally in 2008 in Salt Lake City and the same thing happened with conservative protesters?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (Zs4uk)

761

I find your reaction to be just a tad hypersensitive.

The only people I hear equating populism with fascism are leftards. And I had never heard that up until the rise of Donald Trump.

Any time I hear someone say something like that these days, it's to denigrate conservatives.

That myth needs to be put to rest, not repeated.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (LUgeY)

762 Peace is the absence of resistance to socialism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (Nwg0u)

763 If you ever get to the Minnesota State Fair, there is a Spam pavilion where you can try all the flavors, including ones not sold in the US.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits
----------------

*ponders Spam Tandoori, and curried Spam *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 10:56 AM (9mTYi)

764 Second, is it wrong for me to laugh if the kids cry

No, it's required.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 12, 2016 10:56 AM (YJmuy)

765 691 Filbert, so very, very right. I think of this every time I hear someone claim a president "created jobs" and the party of said president is completely irrelevant. The president does not create any productive jobs ever. The best the president, and government at all levels, can do is stay the hell out of the way and not create obstacles.

And you would be surprised, or not, how many people can't seem to grasp this distinction.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (LJYIn)

766 Do we know for sure that Trump didn't hire the protesters?



Ted Cruz wants to know.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 12, 2016 10:53 AM (PvCxa)


I am fairly sure he didn't... most times, you don't have to play 11 dimensional chess to figure out who is responsible for an action.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (NPofj)

767 Has anyone else had Win10 hijack their computer and start loading itself? Happened *twice* yesterday. I hit "Decline" when the agreement form came up, but that was *after* it had restarted my computer and loaded itself. It then re-loaded Win8 but between the loading and restoring I lost *hours* of computer use time that I needed to be doing.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (GDulk)

768 It's not truly a Spam Pavilion if there are no cans of Spam flavored macadamia nuts from Hawai'i.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (viJS2)

769 The only people I hear equating populism with fascism are leftards. And I had never heard that up until the rise of Donald Trump.

Any time I hear someone say something like that these days, it's to denigrate conservatives.

That myth needs to be put to rest, not repeated.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (LUgeY)


The 20th Century fascist used populist causes and rhetoric to gain power.

History.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (s5o+q)

770 "The left has organized goons. The right does not have a similar apparatus"

correction: the left has taxpayer-funded organized goons.

Posted by: artemis at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (AwPyG)

771 No, that isn't the price of liberty. I don't get to walk into an event just to disrupt it.

Well you misunderstand. I'm not talking about hordes of people trying to silence someone. I'm talking about a jerk heckling someone at a public event.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (39g3+)

772 The only people I hear equating populism with fascism are leftards. And I had never heard that up until the rise of Donald Trump.

Any time I hear someone say something like that these days, it's to denigrate conservatives.

That myth needs to be put to rest, not repeated.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (LUgeY)

The 20th Century fascist used populist causes and rhetoric to gain power.

History.
Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (s5o+q)


Of course, so did the Communists. So do most totalitarians, actually.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (s5o+q)

773 @762

Damn! Heh

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (e7T6D)

774 >>So, two hours until the nephews birthday party.
It's a dodge-ball party.


How fun! How old is he?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (NOIQH)

775 What we saw in Shitcago last night was the beginning. The days of peaceful transfer of power are over.

King Putt is staying in DC after his term. For the girls, he says. Bull fucking shit. He's there to make sure that all of his agenda stays intact. When it is threatened, he will dispatch the brownshirts to shut shit down.

This fuckstick is Bernie Sanders with a tan.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (89T5c)

776 Lenin had goons outside the Duma that were subsidized by German gold.

The Kaiser wants a do-over.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (viJS2)

777 "The only people I hear equating populism with fascism are leftards. "


Well, to be honest, I know someone else doing that.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (Zs4uk)

778 I think the Uniparty sees Trump as a threat to their crime syndicate. This means Democrats and gope will work together to undermine Trump.

Notice the symmetry and alignment presented yesterday.

Social media...high-level meetings...well-organized large protest/riots...concerned Conservatives blaming Trump.

Cruz, the Saint right in the middle of it.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (MQEz6)

779 "Build the Wall!" chant at Trump rally in Vandalia this morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (bceFx)

780 That's right, redbanzai, Trump and his 78-year-old Brown Shirts beating up honest 20-something protesters. Don't expect any sympathy when it starts happening to Cruz events should he, oddly enough, win the brokered convention.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (WOyz5)

781 @redbanzai-I only have your kind of patience with my children. Hats off to you.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (wnwJC)

782 Fascism was actually created in Italy as a "middle of the road" compromise between what was seen as the worst of (crony/corrupt) capitalism and socialism.
The idea was that the state was not to own and operate the companies, since the businessmen were more adept that that, but to control various elements of "fairness" to moderate the calls for socialism and to end the riots being stirred up over various "inequalities" that were destroying factories and driving workforces away.
As both parties supposedly got what they wanted there would be no reason to riot, and the state now had a vested interest in putting all dissent down hard.

Of course the difference between the state owning all industries and means of production and the state controlling all industries and means of production through regulation is pretty much a pointless distinction.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (q2o38)

783 762 Peace is the absence of resistance to socialism Islam.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (Nwg0u)


FIFY.

Posted by: Muhammed Mohammad abu Muhammad at March 12, 2016 11:00 AM (sdi6R)

784 It's a dodge-ball party.

First, I'm shocked that there is a venue that would put its neck out like that.

Second, is it wrong for me to laugh if the kids cry
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (hlMPp)
---
There's always that kid that turns cardiac arrest red when you slam him with the ball. Once he's been identified, he seems to develop a gravitational pull and all the dodgeballs are drawn to his cranium.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 11:00 AM (jR7Wy)

785

The 20th Century fascist used populist causes and rhetoric to gain power.

History.


So wanting to preserve our American heritage, exceptionalism and culture is fascistic now?

That's what it sounds as though you're saying.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (LUgeY)

786 "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist." - Porco Rosso.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (viJS2)

787 @778

Including ace, saying something that seemed completely out of character

Posted by: artemis at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (AwPyG)

788
So, two hours until the nephews birthday party.It's a dodge-ball party.

How fun! How old is he?
Posted by: Lizzy




Two.

That's the challenge. Smaller target.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (kdS6q)

789 I thought dodge-ball had been outlawed as too violent. Are you telling me sanity still prevails somewhere?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (eBsWa)

790 Trump just called Bernie "our Communist friend."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (bceFx)

791 Trump is speaking now...

I hope Ted Cruz notices the "tone" Trump is using. That's the tone of a winner.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:02 AM (Zs4uk)

792 They would wander into the crowd, and as soon as someone starting speaking at the podium, would begin screaming non stop some infantile nonsense. "Liar, go home, we support Obama, racist"

That is why God gave us pepper spray

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:02 AM (39g3+)

793 Has a former President EVER remained in D.C.?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:02 AM (9mTYi)

794 Trump just called Bernie "our Communist friend."

See, this kind of thing is what I like about Trump.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 11:02 AM (bZ7mE)

795 Fascism was actually created in Italy as a "middle of the road" compromise between what was seen as the worst of (crony/corrupt) capitalism and socialism.
The idea was that the state was not to own and operate the companies, since the businessmen were more adept that that, but to control various elements of "fairness" to moderate the calls for socialism and to end the riots being stirred up over various "inequalities" that were destroying factories and driving workforces away.
As both parties supposedly got what they wanted there would be no reason to riot, and the state now had a vested interest in putting all dissent down hard.

Of course the difference between the state owning all industries and means of production and the state controlling all industries and means of production through regulation is pretty much a pointless distinction.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:59 AM (q2o3


Mussolini was unfamiliar with Conquest's Second Law:

"Any organization not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing."

So the attempt to create a "centrist" compromise between (ostensibly right-wing) capitalism and (left-wing) communism/socialism will always wind up as left-wing socialism.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (s5o+q)

796 I think the only former President who ever stayed in that pest hole called DC became a Supreme Court justice.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (viJS2)

797
789 I thought dodge-ball had been outlawed as too violent. Are you telling me sanity still prevails somewhere?

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (eBsWa)

Warrenton, VA.

I'll report later if they put some BS rules on the game.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (hlMPp)

798 767 - I hear that the various "Home" editions of Windows are subject to this. There are supposed to be blockers for the update, but MS is continually trying to get around those.

My advice would be to get something like Acronis, make an image of your PC the way you want, then just restore that image when Win10 starts to play badly. Store the image on an external drive and make updates as needed.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (AroJD)

799 Second, is it wrong for me to laugh if the kids cry


It's only wrong if you don't also point at them in a Nelson Muntzian fashion.


Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (AJeMv)

800 How come Cruz didn't also blame Obama for the climate of hate he's created?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 11:04 AM (WOyz5)

801 Mike Hammmer-

Not that I know of.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 12, 2016 11:04 AM (89T5c)

802
saying something that seemed completely out of character
Posted by: artemis



No, not really. His late primary pivot to denounce those to his right is quite the tradition.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:04 AM (kdS6q)

803 "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist." - Porco Rosso.
Posted by: Anna Puma
---------------------

But what about swinging on a star? Or carrying moonbeams home in a jar?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (9mTYi)

804 So wanting to preserve our American heritage, exceptionalism and culture is fascistic now?

That's what it sounds as though you're saying.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:01 AM (LUgeY)


You're seeing shadows. You are reading things into what I am saying that are not there.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (s5o+q)

805 793 Has a former President EVER remained in D.C.?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:02 AM (9mTYi)
---
Wilson's buried in the National Cathedral (presumably with his head cut off and garlic in the coffin).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, All-Terrain Virago at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (jR7Wy)

806 @jwest-Yes it does look like Trump will be the winner. Just remember to vote the right way, CRUZ 2020, after you realize you've been played.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (wnwJC)

807 For those of you with 30 minutes to spend and an interest in the history of Fascism.

Ralph Raico is an angel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGoBQ1vb7vs


Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 10:42 AM (q2o3


Thanks for the link, Kindltot... that is a very illuminating video, especially the assessment of Mussolini's opportunism and lack of core beliefs before he came to power.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (NPofj)

808 Chaos. Remember. That's what the left wants. It's what the left needs.

It's going to be a long summer.

Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (Fmupd)

809 Maybe the Donald is reading Ace, I've been labeling Bernie as the old Bolshavik for awhile

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (fizMZ)

810 The 20th Century fascist used populist causes and rhetoric to gain power.

EVERYBODY uses populism to gain power. That's the very basic definition of an election: appealing to the people at a basic level and getting their support. Populism isn't some awful tool of the wicked.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (39g3+)

811 For those who aren't sick of Fields, this video analysis is relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6K7iiV_zk

Why haven't we heard from the photographer staring at Trump and Corey, with Fields in the process of asking Trump her question?

His camera is pointed at Trump at the very instant the event was supposed to have happened ...

And why did this photographer lie about not being there?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (1D4Ef)

812 Polliwogette, in the archives of What's Up With That is an article showing which KB MicroSponge installed to constantly nag about the Win10 upgrade.

Someone here gave me the link and I removed it from my 64-bit Win 7 system. Since the reboot, no nag. Plus no automatic install of updates.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (viJS2)

813 New idea for a constitutional amendment: DC must be preserved in all its glory as it was in 1800. I.e., no air conditioning.

If the leftists want the 2nd amendment to only cover flintlocks, they can't object, right?


Make DC uninhabitable in the Summer!

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (bZ7mE)

814 I'm wondering what the precedent for an outgoing President to stay in DC is. I'm thinking that hasn't happened in a very, very long time. And protect his agenda , absolutely.... and lobby for his legacy... no doubt. Of course, the media will have no problem with it. None at all.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (e7T6D)

815 Cruz is a guy who needs to get used to second place.

At best.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (MQEz6)

816 Trump:


"The media is the most dishonest group of people...."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (bceFx)

817

How come Cruz didn't also blame Obama for the climate of hate he's created?

That's my question, too.

"We bring a gun to a knife fight."

"Punch back twice as hard."

"We're going to punish our enemies."


Just imagine if a Repumpkin had said that...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (LUgeY)

818 Even Powerline is fully siding with Trump on this. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (WOyz5)

819 UH OH

Trump just said we have to fight back against the organized left.

GOPe weeps and shudders with fear.

Posted by: artist at March 12, 2016 11:07 AM (TwnkX)

820 I just finished reading the PC game discussion in last night's ONT.

A couple of games that have really caught my interest:

Naval Action (Age of Sail combat and a mercantile component)
Total War: Shogun II

I've already signed on for Star Citizen. Neat stuff and WIP.


Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 11:07 AM (JBggj)

821
813 New idea for a constitutional amendment: DC must be preserved in all its glory as it was in 1800. I.e., no air conditioning.

If the leftists want the 2nd amendment to only cover flintlocks, they can't object, right?


Make DC uninhabitable in the Summer!
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (bZ7mE)


And restore the swamps.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 11:07 AM (MQEz6)

822 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (AroJD)

Ah, thanks. Unfortunately, your second paragraph is the epitome of "I don't understand those words in that order". I'm still trying to remember where the "restore-to" command is. I know I've done it on this computer, but it's been over a year and I can't remember the steps to get there. Adding a third-party item seems likely beyond my sad abilities.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:07 AM (GDulk)

823 Of course the difference between the state owning all industries and means of production and the state controlling all industries and means of production through regulation is pretty much a pointless distinction.

Exactly, the only difference is the name on the paperwork, in the end. If you control every aspect of what a business can do, you own it, even if you aren't legally the owner.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:08 AM (39g3+)

824

Curried Spam and Spam Vindaloo is delicious.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:08 AM (vP09u)

825 Filbert, so very, very right. I think of this every
time I hear someone claim a president "created jobs" and the party of
said president is completely irrelevant. The president does not create
any productive jobs ever. The best the president, and government at all
levels, can do is stay the hell out of the way and not create
obstacles.



And you would be surprised, or not, how many people can't seem to grasp this distinction.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 12, 2016 10:57 AM (LJYIn)

This. So. So. This.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:08 AM (NPofj)

826 774 >>So, two hours until the nephews birthday party.
It's a dodge-ball party.


How fun! How old is he?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 10:58 AM (NOIQH

10.

So far I know there will be 18 kids playing. I am wondering if that includes the girls and his younger brother.

The girls are tomboys and the little brother (6) is small for his age but is a no fear hell raiser.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (hlMPp)

827 Does anyone doubt that if Cruz is the nominee moveon.org & Co will disrupt his rallies in the Fall, just like last night.

So it's Trump's fault?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (rs5De)

828 Then you are part of the problem. You don't get to beat people up because they annoy you. If they are trespassing, then the police will remove them. I they are not, then you just have to deal with their presence even if you find their speech repugnant.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 10:54 AM (NPofj)

Now you are trying to conflate two different things. If there are people who are in the event talking politely with other people about how they don't like X. That's not a problem. But we aren't talking about that are we?

Yeah, we saw how well the police did with the event last night. And yes, sometimes it comes to personally hitting someone. Because if they get away with this against Trump, they'll do it to any Republican candidate.

I guess you liberty ends unless a police officer is standing there to hopefully do what you want.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (LTDSy)

829 Give what is left of DC back to Maryland. And disperse all the Congress-critters back to their respective states so they can conduct government business via the Internet. And be closer to the local lynch mobs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (viJS2)

830

You're seeing shadows. You are reading things into what I am saying that are not there.

When I see the word "populism" in the same sentence with the word "fascism," what should I think?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:10 AM (LUgeY)

831 818 Even Powerline is fully siding with Trump on this. See the sock link.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (WOyz5)


Wow.

Posted by: Muhammed Mohammad abu Muhammad at March 12, 2016 11:10 AM (sdi6R)

832 Yes but can he dodge a wrench?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 12, 2016 11:10 AM (VdICR)

833 /sock

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (sdi6R)

834 Trump is on fire today. I watch a lot of his speeches... this one is gold. I would like him to hit Soros/Moveon though.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (bA+CL)

835
How come Cruz didn't also blame Obama for the climate of hate he's created?



That's my question, too.



"We bring a gun to a knife fight."



"Punch back twice as hard."



"We're going to punish our enemies."





Just imagine if a Repumpkin had said that...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:06 AM (LUgeY)

Cruz has... multiple times. Here is one of them: http://tinyurl.com/hanvkhn

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (NPofj)

836 Does anyone doubt that if Cruz is the nominee moveon.org & Co will disrupt his rallies in the Fall, just like last night.

No


So it's Trump's fault?


No, but he hasn't helped things any. Doesn't excuse the protestors.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (bZ7mE)

837 Wow... Trump is talking much faster cadence than usual. I think it must be kinda cold in Dayton.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (e7T6D)

838 I see I'm interrupting a Trump/Cruz flame war.

As you were before I interrupted

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:11 AM (fizMZ)

839 "Trump is on fire today. I watch a lot of his speeches... "



He rather is. It's a barn-burner.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (bceFx)

840 New idea for a constitutional amendment: DC must be preserved in all its glory as it was in 1800. I.e., no air conditioning.

And transportation, communications, and medicine should all be late 1800s as well, just like they want for all of us. Lead the way! Show us how its done! Ride a horse to work!

How come Cruz didn't also blame Obama for the climate of hate he's created?

If he did not, that's an inexcusable missed opportunity. Nothing that comes out of a GOP politicna's mouth should avoid bashing Democrats. Nothing. Every statement should include a slam on Democrats and specific leaders, particularly those running for office.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (39g3+)

841 676:

"After hearing what Cruz said yesterday about the Chicago shit, can anyone truly claim Cruz is immune to temptation?"

The mask slipped. So much for "Mr. Constitution."

(shaky?)

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (6oL+H)

842 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:08 AM (39g3+)

Exactly. Which is why bureaucrats *love* fascism. All the control, no obvious responsibility for guaranteed wretched outcome.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (GDulk)

843 822 - If you go into Control Panel, then System, then (I think) System Protection, the "Restore PC to an earlier time" thing should be there...at least, it is in Win 7, I didn't have 8 long enough to learn where it was there.

My boss would just fire up Help and type "System restore" and it would show the path, that should work too.

I do this kind of thing for a living (such as it is) so I may be a smidge above the average user when it comes to these things.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (AroJD)

844 Hey Skip, London has Fallen is playing... or torture yourself by seeing Tina Fey in Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:13 AM (viJS2)

845 "Just remember to vote the right way, CRUZ 2020, after you realize you've been played."

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (wnwJC)


Just to recap what has happened in the past 18 hours...

Cruz had a chance to win or do exceptionally well in Illinois and Ohio, turning the tide of the primaries, but instead of standing up for free speech and the rights of republicans to have rallies, he blew it.

Now, Trump will win both states by wide margins, absolutely closing the door on any chance anyone else could get the nomination.

That's what happened.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:13 AM (Zs4uk)

846 Has Obozo commented on this?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:13 AM (Nwg0u)

847 Now you are trying to conflate two different things.
If there are people who are in the event talking politely with other
people about how they don't like X. That's not a problem. But we
aren't talking about that are we?



Yeah, we saw how well the police did with the event last night. And
yes, sometimes it comes to personally hitting someone. Because if they
get away with this against Trump, they'll do it to any Republican
candidate.



I guess you liberty ends unless a police officer is standing there to hopefully do what you want.

Posted by: WOPR at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (LTDSy)

The Tea Party has dealt with these shitheads for years without resorting to violence.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:14 AM (NPofj)

848 Obama saying he'll stay in DC concerns me...especially when there was that talk, back when Biden was considering running, that Obama would only endorse him if he agreed to two conditions: only serve 1 term, let Obama choose his VP.

I'm terrible at predictions, but might this signal that Obama and co. are prepping for the moment Hillary (after defeating Bernie) needs to be replaced? They can just plug in some young Obama 2.0 (more charisma than a record or experience) and then stay on to "guide" him or her from the shadows?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:14 AM (NOIQH)

849 841
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (6oL+H)


Glad to see you back! I thought you got banned last night. I saw one of your comments disappear.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:15 AM (sdi6R)

850 All Hail Eris, did you see in the Heston auction listing they are going to sell Heston's kilt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:15 AM (viJS2)

851 huh.... kinda sweaty. Making me nervous now. I hope he's ok. 61 degrees in Dayton

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:15 AM (e7T6D)

852 Oh no! rickl has converted to Islam!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (WOyz5)

853 Now, Trump will win both states by wide margins

-
Maybe. It depends on what he does in the next forty-eight hours or show. If he goes wobbly, he's done.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (Nwg0u)

854 EVERYBODY uses populism to gain power. That's the very basic definition of an election: appealing to the people at a basic level and getting their support. Populism isn't some awful tool of the wicked.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:05 AM (39g3+)


Seems to me that this reduces the concept of "populism" to equivalence with "popular."

My use of the term "populism" is to denote the particular political tactic of pretending that you're "with the people" to gain their support, but without any real intent to follow through once in office.

By the way, I also think democracy is not necessarily a very good form of government--especially when combined with a government which has been allowed too much power over its citizenry. The tale of "two wolves and a sheep discussing what to have for dinner" comes to mind.

Democracy and a relatively weak government can work fairly well. Democracy and a strong government degenerates into tyranny.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (s5o+q)

855 When I was told about email 'spam' I thought it was the canned meat 'Spam'. So funny! Like when I thought a server could be wiped with a cloth. It's after noon - booze time! And I lose an hour tonite. Pull out the stopper, Huma'

Posted by: Hillary 2016 at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (gwG9s)

856 >>So far I know there will be 18 kids playing. I am wondering if that includes the girls and his younger brother.


10 is a fun age for boys - enjoy the party!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (NOIQH)

857 I read Cruz's comment, I don't see anything wrong with what he said. If the roles were reversed, you better believe that Trump would be making this all about Cruz.
Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (nyYhO)
__________________________
THIS ^^^^^^^

Posted by: redridinghood at March 12, 2016 11:17 AM (7GQM/)

858 845:

"Just to recap what has happened in the past 18 hours...

Cruz had a chance to win or do exceptionally well in Illinois and Ohio, turning the tide of the primaries, but instead of standing up for free speech and the rights of republicans to have rallies, he blew it.

Now, Trump will win both states by wide margins, absolutely closing the door on any chance anyone else could get the nomination.

That's what happened. "

It also tells us much about the abject fear that has gripped conservatives and Republicans for so long. The patently obvious response would have been a full-throated defense of the First Amendment and the Constitution. The responses from Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, along with much of the conservative commentariat, has been utterly craven and is Stockholm Syndrome writ large.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2016 11:17 AM (6oL+H)

859
I see I'm interrupting a Trump/Cruz flame war.
Posted by: Skip




More of a Reality vs Rationalization Police Action....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (kdS6q)

860 Maybe we need a warning sign for threads like this

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/selection-du-weekend-183-25.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (viJS2)

861 Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:09 AM (viJS2)

I very much want at least the representatives to stay in their home districts and do business by internet. I suppose the Senators would need to be disbursed as well to prevent the Representatives from being ignored. That leaves the president and SCOTUS in DC though and I don't want those two working together to ignore congress (not that that isn't what is happening now anyway).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (GDulk)

862 My use of the term "populism" is to denote the particular political tactic of pretending that you're "with the people" to gain their support, but without any real intent to follow through once in office.

Even defined like that its hardly unknown in democracies *cough*2014*cough*


I'm amazed nobody has come out with bacon-spam yet. Its such an obvious marketing ploy. Just dump bacon seasoning in the spam and color it slightly darker.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (39g3+)

863 Anybody notice that the country has been fundamentally transformed?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (Nwg0u)

864 Seems to me that this reduces the concept of "populism" to equivalence with "popular."



My use of the term "populism" is to denote the particular political tactic of pretending that you're "with the people" to gain their support, but without any real intent to follow through once in office.



By the way, I also think democracy is not necessarily a very good
form of government--especially when combined with a government which has
been allowed too much power over its citizenry. The tale of "two
wolves and a sheep discussing what to have for dinner" comes to mind.



Democracy and a relatively weak government can work fairly well. Democracy and a strong government degenerates into tyranny.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (s5o+q)

Which is why we are a representative republic and not a democracy.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (NPofj)

865 855
Pull out the stopper, Huma'
Posted by: Hillary 2016 at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (gwG9s)


I totally don't want to see a video of that, whatever it means.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:19 AM (sdi6R)

866
832 Yes but can he dodge a wrench?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 12, 2016 11:10 AM (VdICR)


Just watched that clip and sent it to the SIL

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 11:19 AM (hlMPp)

867

My use of the term "populism" is to denote the particular political tactic of pretending that you're "with the people" to gain their support, but without any real intent to follow through once in office.



OK, thanks for the clarification. Sorta like what's been happening to all of us for the past couple of generations.

I get testy when I start hearing what sounds to me like leftardly twisted agitprop on our side of the aisle.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (LUgeY)

868 When I see the word "populism" in the same sentence with the word "fascism," what should I think?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:10 AM (LUgeY)


Go back and study the politics of 1920's and 1930's Germany, and get back to me.

We are not 1920's/1930's Germany. One could argue that we were closer to that situation in 2008 than we are today.

I am not specifically discussing the 2016 election. That seems to be your problem here.

I'm talking about general political history.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (s5o+q)

869 "Anybody notice that the country has been fundamentally transformed?"


Oh yeah. Sure has.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (bceFx)

870 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 12, 2016 11:12 AM (AroJD)

Thank you! I concede to being below the average user. It's very frustrating to know I've done something before and not be able to remember hoe to even get started.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (GDulk)

871 823 Of course the difference between the state owning all industries and means of production and the state controlling all industries and means of production through regulation is pretty much a pointless distinction.

Exactly, the only difference is the name on the paperwork, in the end. If you control every aspect of what a business can do, you own it, even if you aren't legally the owner.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:08 AM (39g3+)


---------------------


Paid my taxes yesterday. True ownership of anything is now a cudgel the government uses against the individual.

Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (Fmupd)

872 I read Cruz's comment, I don't see anything wrong with what he said. If the roles were reversed, you better believe that Trump would be making this all about Cruz.

Yeah its the crass kind of opportunistic electioneering that politicians do and I've never liked it, but pretending its just shocking, shocking that Cruz did it and Trump would never stoop to such depths (and if he did, it would be heroic!) is just silly.

They're both guys doing everything to get power by fooling you. They're politicians. Its what they do.

Geico.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:20 AM (39g3+)

873 I'm amazed nobody has come out with bacon-spam yet. Its such an obvious marketing ploy. Just dump bacon seasoning in the spam and color it slightly darker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (39g3+)


I believe that there is in fact a bacon-flavored Spam.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:21 AM (s5o+q)

874 And Pubio on Fox this morning is revolting. Tea Party? He fcuked them over.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:21 AM (bceFx)

875 Illinois is in the bag for the GOPe. Rubio or Kasich. Ohio might go Kasich, but I would bet on Trump. Florida is Trump territory. I will vote Cruz in Illinois, but if he even makes top three, I will be surprised. I'll go with whoever is challenging Mark Kirk for Senate, even if it means the Dem (probably Duckworth, if she can avoid her VA scandals) because we have not had representation in the Senate for six years and nobody had the guts to do something about it. Sure won't make a difference in what we have now.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 11:21 AM (MIKMs)

876 Just be thankful for Chicago gun control or this could have been much worse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

877 They're not protesters. They're trespassers denying others the right to assemble as they wish (usually after having stood in line for 3 or 4 hours to get in). If you don't understand that, you aren't bright enough to be commenting here.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2016 10:52 AM (WOyz5)

Exactly. Protester/disruptors are violating a civil right guaranteed by the First Amendment: the right to freedom of assembly.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 10:55 AM (s5o+q)


The fabulous Sheriff David Clarke on Cavuto this morning basically said the same thing. These people are not protestors, they're anarchists. They are not there to protest via free speech, they're there specifically to shut down speech and be violent. And they should not be tolerated. They should have been arrested and the event should have continued. We should not capitulate, not one bit.

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:22 AM (hgBpU)

878
Bacon Spam has been out for several years and is quite tasty.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:22 AM (vP09u)

879 Bacon SPAM

http://tinyurl.com/l5y7qqw

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 11:23 AM (ptqRm)

880 I believe that there is in fact a bacon-flavored Spam.

I'm sure it tastes horrific.

Yep, there it is

http://www.spam.com/varieties/spam-with-bacon

Its more added bacon into the spam than the fake I was thinking. Maybe its okay. I'm not gonna plunk down any money to try though. Spam really isn't that cheap.

That makes me think of those idiotic news reports and speeches about old people eating dog food because they don't get enough food stamps, etc.

What the hell? TUNA is cheaper than canned dog food.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (39g3+)

881 The patently obvious response would have been a full-throated defense of the First Amendment and the Constitution. The responses from Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, along with much of the conservative commentariat, has been utterly craven and is Stockholm Syndrome writ large.

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Well put.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (bA+CL)

882 Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:16 AM (s5o+q)

I think it would be very clarifying if someone would ask each candidate (like at one of those infinite debate thingies) "What is the appropriate role of the federal government in the life of a law-abiding citizen?"

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (GDulk)

883 This thread has achieved Bacon Spam.

We can shut 'er down now.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (s5o+q)

884 I disapprove of what you say and that's why I have this brick in my hand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (Nwg0u)

885 BBQ Vienna Sausages are tasty too... you know... for the burning times.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (e7T6D)

886 Have we reached peak Spam?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:25 AM (viJS2)

887 I think it would be very clarifying if someone would ask each candidate (like at one of those infinite debate thingies) "What is the appropriate role of the federal government in the life of a law-abiding citizen?"
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:24 AM (GDulk)


My skin crawls, contemplating the answers a Democrat would give to your question.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:25 AM (s5o+q)

888 MSNBC "fewer protesters today, but this airport isn't near a major city or served by mass transit" LOL

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (bA+CL)

889 Just to recap what has happened in the past 18 hours...



Cruz had a chance to win or do exceptionally well in Illinois and
Ohio, turning the tide of the primaries, but instead of standing up for
free speech and the rights of republicans to have rallies, he blew it.



Now, Trump will win both states by wide margins, absolutely closing the door on any chance anyone else could get the nomination.



That's what happened.





Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:13 AM (Zs4uk)

OK... THAT is false from stem to stern.


Illinois is an open primary state so, given the states so far, I expect it will go to Trump (by a few points). Ohio is closed so we shall see about that (it being Kasich's home state makes it somewhat of a wild card). Even i rump wins both, it doesn't mean he wins (1237 means that).


Additionally, Cruz is NOT WRONG about Trump encouraging uncivil behavior. That does not excuse the behavior of the protesters (and the police) last night but neither does their behavior excuse Trump's.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (NPofj)

890 I lived in Ohio when young radical people burned down the ROTC building on the Ohio State campus and, a few years later, rioted at Kent State. Political violence is nothing new in American history.

Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (JBggj)

891 really good speech by Trump. Heh... he's energized. Too Funny.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (e7T6D)

892 Rubes: "What happens to the Republican Party?


I don't care.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (bceFx)

893 @jwest-Yes, Trump will probably win these states by whatever margins. Cruz has said plenty about assholes like the protesters last night. When did Donald come to be a Republican, or harbor Republican type principles (since every Trump supporter recoils in horror at the word/label "conservative' now these days). Besides donating money to some of the most vile Dem and GOPe pols, most recently, what makes you think he is going to do what he says and not just capitulate like any other politician now that he has the desire to be one?

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (wnwJC)

894 850 All Hail Eris, did you see in the Heston auction listing they are going to sell Heston's kilt.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:15 AM (viJS2)
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It should be crated up and placed at that storehouse the Top. Men. run, because it has magical powers. Heston + Kilt is a gestalt of face-melting manliness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (jR7Wy)

895 Trump brought up his new campaign promise a few minutes ago that he initially mentioned the other day...

He's going to charge other countries for U.S. military protection.

The appeal of this and the amount of votes he will get, both in the primaries and in the general, can't be overestimated.

This one issue will win the election by a landslide.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:27 AM (Zs4uk)

896 Supposedly, TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple of episodes. They expect the fan base to be pissed off. Why wd you deliberately piss off the fan base? Seems dumb.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 11:27 AM (iQIUe)

897 *i rump === if Trump. I may need a new keyboard.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:27 AM (NPofj)

898 Trump would win the election if he'd go up to a protester/disruptor, preferably a mousy Melissa Click sort, grab her in a head lock, and shout out:

"Who bitch this is? WHO BITCH THIS IS?!?"

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:28 AM (s5o+q)

899

really good speech by Trump. Heh... he's energized. Too Funny.

Do you have a link or was it streamed?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:28 AM (LUgeY)

900 The divide in America has never been more clear. Its artificially organized rioters and destroyers vs producers and law abiding citizens. Do they really want to push us over that line to where we don't obey the law any longer? Because that's where this is headed. We're not going to duck and hide and be intimidated, we're going to take it until we don't any longer and all hell breaks loose.

Do they really want mass clashes of enraged, armed people in the streets like 1860s NYC? Do they really want violence erupting at political events and bodies in the gutters? Because that's where we're going. And then we'll see the true mathematical and tactical meaning of majority in action.

If they're counting on a crisis they can exploit, that genie won't go back in the bottle. Once people get a taste of violence and cutting loose after years of fury, frustration, and fear, they don't go back to mowing the lawn quietly.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:28 AM (39g3+)

901 >>>Mayor is tweeting to remind everyone that Kansas City isn't Chicago because we are better than that.
Posted by: Just a deb at March 12, 2016 10:40 AM (NrrrR)

Good one.

Posted by: m at March 12, 2016 11:28 AM (S/1cF)

902
The patently obvious response would have been a full-throated defense of the First Amendment and the Constitution. The responses from Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, along with much of the conservative commentariat, has been utterly craven and is Stockholm Syndrome writ large.




One does not get the warm fuzzies at the idea of Justice Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court protecting your First Amendment rights.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (kdS6q)

903 iRump - New gay friendly app product from Apple?

All Hail Eris, I know right. I need to sell a lot more books if I want to afford anything from that auction. Or win the Powerball tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (viJS2)

904 ....they are going to sell Heston's kilt.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:15 AM (viJS2)

It's an extra ten inches longer than an average Kilt ...because it had to be for modesty....

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (hCdMd)

905 Do they really want to push us over that line to where we don't obey the law any longer?

Yes, because then they win; they no longer have to pretend to care about the law after that.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (dH97I)

906 I have bacon Spam in my Burning Times pantry, right next to the bacon vodka and the bacon mayonnaise.

I should check the "best if served by" date, though I expect it has a long half-life.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (jR7Wy)

907 Trump in Dayton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lH2vuaN384

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (e7T6D)

908 What the hell? TUNA is cheaper than canned dog food.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
--------------

Well, I buy the 50lb. bags of generic dry food. So, cheaper. It's a little bland, and rather monotonous, but the price is right.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (9mTYi)

909 Trump brought up his new campaign promise a few minutes ago that he initially mentioned the other day...



He's going to charge other countries for U.S. military protection.



The appeal of this and the amount of votes he will get, both in the primaries and in the general, can't be overestimated.



This one issue will win the election by a landslide.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:27 AM (Zs4uk)

No it won't.
Our troops are there because it serves OUR interests.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (NPofj)

910 MSNBC "fewer protesters today, but this airport isn't near a major city or served by mass transit" LOL

-
MSNBC sheltering in place.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (Nwg0u)

911 "What is the appropriate role of the federal government in the life of a law-abiding citizen?"

The proper answer to this, of course, is "none." If they are obeying the law, there's zero the federal government - or local government - should be doing with that citizen.

But then, how far should those laws go?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (39g3+)

912 Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:22 AM (hgBpU)

Unfortunately, with the police being unwilling to enforce the law because some are more equal than others, Trump only had two rotten options to choose from. He chose the one that didn't lead to extra bloodshed in the short-run but may lead to more in the future. He wasn't going to "win" in this situation no matter what he chose.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (GDulk)

913 Yes, because then they win; they no longer have to pretend to care about the law after that.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack
-----------------

Are they still pretending? I mean Obama has been flouting the law since he was elected.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)

914 Why our writers have this opinion, I don't know. But they have it ingrained in their souls that the farther away from the East Coast one goes, especially in a southern direction, the more racist people become.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 10:25 AM (Zs4uk)

I like to point out to those people that Archie Bunker lived in Queens New York, not in Birmingham Alabama

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2016 11:31 AM (Fb2d7)

915 This one issue will win the election by a landslide.

Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2016 11:27 AM


I believe he has said this in the past. Frankly, I don't see it as such a bad idea....

The Trump-haters just didn't pick up on it, as they were fixated (as they still are) on what a mean, boorish, arrogant Not-Nice Guy who isn't a Real Republican he is.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 11:31 AM (WIZNc)

916 Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:25 AM (s5o+q)

I suspect I wouldn't like the answer from most Rs either. At least we'd *know* who the enemy was though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (GDulk)

917 And they should not be tolerated. They should have
been arrested and the event should have continued. We should not
capitulate, not one bit.



Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:22 AM (hgBpU)

I agree with Joanne... this should have happened. Police give in far to often and give protesters a heckler's vote.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (NPofj)

918 "Our troops are there because it serves OUR interests."

So does making them pay for it.

Posted by: creeper at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (eBsWa)

919 BackwardssB, the link is at the top of a page above the main pic on Drudge. It's a live stream. Here is the link on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/4lH2vuaN384

Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (2x3L+)

920 Additionally, Cruz is NOT WRONG about Trump encouraging uncivil
behavior. That does not excuse the behavior of the protesters (and the
police) last night but neither does their behavior excuse Trump's.
==================

Eh. Let's take a look at some of Teddy Roosevelt's stump speeches. Man, that guy could deliver a stemwinder. Accompanied by former, armed, Rough Riders, too. Look at what's happening on college campuses across this country. Coming to a political rally near you.

Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (JBggj)

921

Justice Ted Cruz on your Freedom to Assembly: FUNQ

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (kdS6q)

922 ""fewer protesters today, but this airport isn't near a major city or served by mass transit" LOL "


The "tells." Watch for the tells.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (bceFx)

923
So the attempt to create a "centrist" compromise
between (ostensibly right-wing) capitalism and (left-wing)
communism/socialism will always wind up as left-wing socialism.
Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:03 AM (s5o+q)


Mussolini started out as a socialist/communist, and was the editor of Avanti, (Forward! or Vorwarts! which a number of comintern aligned newspapers used as a name) and had tried to engage in promoting socialism in Switzerland.

He probably wouldn't have cared, even if he were in a position to know. It was the industrialists who backed the idea for a compromise who didn't know and paid for it. Especially the Jewish ones.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (q2o38)

924 "What is the appropriate role of the federal government in the life of a law-abiding citizen?"
------------

1. Defend the shores.
2. Print the money.
3. Deliver the mail.

Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (9mTYi)

925 Trump could have kissed the lumpy hairy ass of every 'protester' at his rallies, and the Organized Outrage Brigade would have still be there last night in Chi


Chris Stirewalt last night on Fox was spewing and ranting last night about how Trump supporters caused the 'disturbances'-- that Trump people went to his rallies for the primary purpose of attacking protesters or watching others do it.






Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (/542q)

926 The appeal of this and the amount of votes he will get, both in the primaries and in the general, can't be overestimated.

I think the number of people who wish we charged for protecting other countries is pretty small and overlaps mostly with "people who wish pot was legal"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (39g3+)

927 906. Try the garlic spam
Not bad at all
Yes I have both flavors in my hurricane kit

Morning all
My Facebook is blown up with everyone from home joking on the riot

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (xsQZk)

928 Well, I buy the 50lb. bags of generic dry food. So, cheaper. It's a little bland, and rather monotonous, but the price is right.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:29 AM (9mTYi)


The Next Great AoSHQ Debate:

Best pet food to eat during the Burning Times:

Dog food or Cat food?

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (s5o+q)

929 apparently if you have room temp IQ, you post Trump is Hittler on Facebook today to show how you are one of the 'Right thinking People'




Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (Onoqd)

930 I'm amazed nobody has come out with bacon-spam yet. Its such an obvious marketing ploy. Just dump bacon seasoning in the spam and color it slightly darker.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:18 AM (39g3+)


Hate Spam but this does sound good:

Bacon wrapped Spam bites. With honey-mustard, brown sugar, and apple juice.

http://tinyurl.com/kkv497t

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (hgBpU)

931 I wonder if landslides are possible anymore, there are states that would today vote for Joseph Stalin if he was running.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (fizMZ)

932 Valu-Rite doesn't grow on trees ya know.

It used to. Damn Global Warming.

Posted by: Ernie the Hemmingway at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (O4NI/)

933 890 I lived in Ohio when young radical people burned down the ROTC building on the Ohio State campus and, a few years later, rioted at Kent State. Political violence is nothing new in American history.
Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 11:26 AM (JBggj)


-----------------------


I lived in those times too. The mood is different now. It's much darker. I know that some would say that there's no difference, but there is. The anger is much deeper now. It has polluted this nation down to it's soul.

Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (Fmupd)

934 I suspect I wouldn't like the answer from most Rs either. At least we'd *know* who the enemy was though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (GDulk)

You are likely correct. I would trust maybe a double handful of politicians to answer correctly and only one is still in the race (as wrongheaded as Rand Paul was on some issues, I would have trusted him to answer correctly also).

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (NPofj)

935 Test

Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (2x3L+)

936 900
Once people get a taste of violence and cutting loose after years of fury, frustration, and fear, they don't go back to mowing the lawn quietly.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:28 AM (39g3+)


I hate yard work.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

937 Cruz isn't wrong that Trump as been talking up some violence in his speeches, but that was irrelevant to the events last night. If he wanted to complain about that, he should have done it another time and just stuck to freedom of speech, opposing Democrats, condemning this kind of thuggish behavior, etc. It was the wrong direction and I fear he's getting too much GOPe advise now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (39g3+)

938 Couple of weeks ago the grocery store was promoting at least a dozen new products with bacon flavor

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:35 AM (fizMZ)

939

Trump in Dayton

Thanks.

He's funny and oh-so-un PC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:35 AM (LUgeY)

940 1. Defend the shores.

2. Print the money.

3. Deliver the mail.

Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (9mTYi)

I would quibble with number two.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:35 AM (NPofj)

941 Are they still pretending? I mean Obama has been flouting the law since he was elected.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)

Pretend may not be accurate enough, but there is still the pretense that individual liberties must be acknowledged. If we surrender that, they no longer have to even feign acknowledgement. And yes, they use lots of tiny infractions to goad us in to surrendering the load.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (dH97I)

942 *ponders*

Hate-shake + bacon bits...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (viJS2)

943 Someone posted a vid on the FB moron group of a young thug getting his ass whupped by a 54 year old construction worker.

I am taking entirely too much pleasure in watching it.

On the DC metro so it really warms my heart.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (hlMPp)

944 917. I just read that the police are saying they didn't cancel it
The organizers did....which is good, it would have been much worse

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (xsQZk)

945 Dog food or Cat food?
+++++++++++++

I think I'll eat the cats first

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (Onoqd)

946 Best pet food to eat during the Burning Times:

Dog food or Cat food?


Cat food is softer, I think. Easier on the teeth. But you can't get 50 pound bags of the stuff, so less economical.

I wonder if landslides are possible anymore

The closest we've come is Obama in 2008 winning so many states, and he only won by like 5% of the vote. I don't think its possible any more.

I lived in those times too. The mood is different now.

Yeah. Even Kent State was an aberration back then. They went nuts there, it was totally out of control, burning buildings, spilling into the streets, breaking windows in town, and if you study the event you find that someone probably shot at the National Guard, prompting their reaction. It was insane.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:37 AM (39g3+)

947 I think I'll eat the cats first
-------------
That is week 1.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:37 AM (bA+CL)

948 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (39g3+)

Exactly. There is a correct answer to that question (and yes, I'd like to see it asked at all levels). I wonder if *anyone* running for *any* office would actually even give the correct answer, much less govern that way.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:37 AM (GDulk)

949 Cruz isn't wrong that Trump as been talking up some
violence in his speeches, but that was irrelevant to the events last
night. If he wanted to complain about that, he should have done it
another time and just stuck to freedom of speech, opposing Democrats,
condemning this kind of thuggish behavior, etc. It was the wrong
direction and I fear he's getting too much GOPe advise now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:34 AM (39g3+)

You are correct that Cruz isn't wrong. I don't agree that he should have kept that to himself last night.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:37 AM (NPofj)

950 Political violence is nothing new in American history.

-
Let's fight the Whiskey Rebellion again!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (Nwg0u)

951 Valu-Rite doesn't grow on trees ya know.

It used to. Damn Global Warming.
Posted by: Ernie the Hemmingway at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (O4NI/)


Potatoes grow in the ground.

On the other hand, I have no idea what Valu-Rite vodka is made of.

Probably spoiled silage and hobo piss.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (s5o+q)

952 *shoots jake*

Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (viJS2)

953 Food source after the Burnin' Tymes?



Second look at Guinie Pig.

Feed them lawn clippings, and have fresh meat?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (ptqRm)

954 "I would quibble with number two."


I would too. Everything else belongs to the states.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (bceFx)

955 It's confusing. One could assume that the step from authoritarian corporatist to socialist is not that far (birds of a feather). However the socialist thugs in rabid fear of the corporatist violently oppose him. This country is so intent on tearing itself apart that kindred devolutionists are fighting each other for primacy.




Posted by: Ralph at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (yIPKR)

956 Chris Stirewalt last night on Fox was spewing and ranting last night about how Trump supporters caused the 'disturbances'-- that Trump people went to his rallies for the primary purpose of attacking protesters or watching others do it.
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (/542q)

Savor that cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (dH97I)

957 930. They sell bacon spam bites at 7/11 here
I'm too scared to try it
Bacon spam is real btw and not that bad

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (xsQZk)

958 >>Supposedly, TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple
of episodes. They expect the fan base to be pissed off. Why wd you
deliberately piss off the fan base?


Oh, goody! I think I'm done with that show anyway - bleak and repetitive. Suppose that's why they're going to kill off regulars, to get new people and story lines.

As far as pissing off fans - hasn't that been the "thing" in TV lately, killing off beloved characters as some sort of surprise? See: Game of Thrones.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (NOIQH)

959 945 Dog food or Cat food?
+++++++++++++

I think I'll eat the cats first
Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (Onoqd)


---------------------


Try the Fancy Feast. It's delicious.

Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (Fmupd)

960 "the fact of the matter is..."

Posted by: every Dem talking head on Fox at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (/542q)

961 I often write from a Nat Geo article cats from house to lion taste like crap.
Dogs on the other hand, well ask Barak what he thinks.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (fizMZ)

962

It will be foolish to eat the cats or dogs.

They are early warning systems, pest managers (critical), and medical therapy...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (vP09u)

963 Al Franken body slammed a protester at a Howard Dean rally and was elected to the Senate. Some old geezer punches a protester at a Trump rally, and this makes Trump Hitler.

Cruz screwed up big-time by blaming Trump. As a commemter put it somewhere else Cruz attacked his rival instead of his enemy. To prove his point, Cruz should schedule his own rally in Chicago to show he world how it goes with terrorists when you talk nice. Except with Cruz, nobody from either side might even attend.

Posted by: OCBill at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (oDxFZ)

964 Soros and all the other sugar daddies of the thuggish left could put a stop to these riots with one phone call telling them "cut the shit or I cut the cash"

But they won't because this is by design

Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (Fb2d7)

965 I just read that the police are saying they didn't cancel it

The organizers did....which is good, it would have been much worse

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (xsQZk)

I had read that the police had forced the cancellation which made me mad at them for not doing their job and controlling the crowd.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (NPofj)

966 To those Morons who bought my book in the past two days, thank you. My bank account also thanks you.

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (viJS2)

967 Supposedly, TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple of episodes. They expect the fan base to be pissed off.

People will tune in to see who dies, then yell about it on twitter! Free publicity! We'll make millions!

Posted by: TV Executive at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (39g3+)

968 952??



??

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 11:41 AM (Onoqd)

969 Morning, all. This is now officially the LMT, isn't it?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at March 12, 2016 11:41 AM (+eR2D)

970 Anybody ever been to the island of Malta?

Had the chance to spend over five months there.

Brown Island with minimal water or vegetation.

For centuries they harvested rabbits.

Grew rabbits.

Ate rabbits.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 11:41 AM (ptqRm)

971 @960 ... that phrase... One of my pet peeves in discussion/debate.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:42 AM (e7T6D)

972 Probably spoiled silage and hobo piss.

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (s5o+q)
ewwwwwwww

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:42 AM (NPofj)

973 Posted by: P.J. O'Rourke at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (9mTYi)

Yes. Which means their role in the life of the individual is *nothing*. We've gotten so used to being "helped" (and G-d knows it's been that way my entire life) I'm not sure how many people actually know that anymore.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:42 AM (GDulk)

974 TWD - I'd just like to have Daryl take a shower and put on some clean clothes. I'll bet you can smell that guy coming from a mile away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:42 AM (9mTYi)

975 967 Supposedly, TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple of episodes. They expect the fan base to be pissed off.

People will tune in to see who dies, then yell about it on twitter! Free publicity! We'll make millions!
Posted by: TV Executive at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (39g3+)

They should do us all a favor and kill the zombies.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:42 AM (dH97I)

976

Just remember, most rioters ands SJWs are young and pretty healthy. Core out the genitals and feed to the pets so you don't get the diseases, most illegal drugs are fat soluble so render down the adipose for candles and soap, the meat should be fine...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (vP09u)

977 "the fact of the matter is..."
Posted by: every Dem talking head on Fox

-
The fact of the matter is that when a major political party's leaders are commie kooks and criminals, bad things happen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (Nwg0u)

978 I think the number of people who wish we charged for protecting other countries is pretty small and overlaps mostly with "people who wish pot was legal"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (39g3+)


You'd be wrong...

Why are we going further into debt, protecting those who are already able to protect themselves (EU)?

Posted by: Don Quixote, formerly BB Wolf, formerly Romeo13... at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (RK8AH)

979 IF TWD killed the zombies, there goes the writing staff.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (viJS2)

980 Don't forget to write a review when you finish Anna's book! She needs more, 10 isn't enough, and all us authors need review lovin'

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (39g3+)

981 "This is now officially the LMT, isn't it?"

Ola, DG. Late morning Thread. We're all just saying stupid shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (bceFx)

982 I would say some cat food especially the wet pouches really might be good heated and poured over rice.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (fizMZ)

983 >>Soros and all the other sugar daddies of the thuggish left could put a
stop to these riots with one phone call telling them "cut the shit or I
cut the cash"
But they won't because this is by design

No sh#t - Soros is *training* these anarchist protesters. His Center for American Progress was working with #BLM and Palestinian "activists" to train the campus protestors like at Mizzou.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (NOIQH)

984 Why are we going further into debt, protecting those who are already able to protect themselves (EU)?
Posted by: Don Quixote, formerly BB Wolf, formerly Romeo13... at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (RK8AH)

Actually, they can't defend themselves and are surrendering to migrants and "refugees." Why should we pay for their defense so they can subsidize and surrender themselves into international socialist oblivion?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (dH97I)

985 Thank you Christopher Taylor, hope your sales are doing well.

Guess break time is over, back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:45 AM (viJS2)

986 It will be foolish to eat the cats or dogs.
---------
Protip: not your OWN dogs.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:45 AM (bA+CL)

987 963
To prove his point, Cruz should schedule his own rally in Chicago to show he world how it goes with terrorists when you talk nice.
Posted by: OCBill at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (oDxFZ)


That's a good point. The leftist agitators would treat him exactly the same as they treated Trump. The point is shutting down any speech that disagrees with leftism.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:45 AM (sdi6R)

988 My favorite last night was Meaghan Kelly asking the reporter at the riot...

Is its a Move On group? or a Sanders Group?

Not knowing that they are one and the same as Move On has endorsed Sanders...

Posted by: Don Quixote, formerly BB Wolf, formerly Romeo13... at March 12, 2016 11:46 AM (RK8AH)

989 726 - The other candidates don't get riots because they are not important.

--

Yep. That about sums it up. Hillary deserves a riot or two, but doesn't seem to ever get one, because the "right" people never riot. Only the "left" people do.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at March 12, 2016 11:46 AM (zBwYh)

990 Saw a commercial for TWD, looks like a good one, all shows come to a end someday.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:46 AM (fizMZ)

991 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (GDulk)

In this instance, I agree. However Sheriff Clarke said that it didn't matter that it was Trump - which I believe is true - he just has bigger events. HIs point was that we have to stop looking at these people as legitimate protesters. They're all supported by George Soros and company, fueled by Jug Ears hate speech. We have to start fighting back and standing together.

Personally, I think the whole thing regarding the Trump-encourages-violence charge and this protest are two different issues, connected by coincidence. These people have been working to assemble a sizable crowd for at least a week or longer.

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:46 AM (hgBpU)

992 As Trump continues to suck all the oxygen out of the campaign, does anyone know where Cruz is today? If he pulled out of Florida, which states are his campaign targeting? Illinois?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (WnCSK)

993 Eh. Let's take a look at some of Teddy Roosevelt's stump speeches. Man, that guy could deliver a stemwinder. Accompanied by former, armed, Rough Riders, too. Look at what's happening on college campuses across this country. Coming to a political rally near you.
Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 11:32 AM (JBggj)
---
This is where I again pimp "Never Call Retreat: Theodore Roosevelt and the Great War" by Thompson.

And I just saw a new book on TR: "Island of Vice: Theodore Roosevelt's Quest to Clean Up Sin-Loving New York". It's already in my Amazon cart.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (jR7Wy)

994 Holy shit.... really ... the SS just swarmed Trump. This is getting serious

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (e7T6D)

995 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2016 11:38 AM (ptqRm)

Gotta give them vitamin C too since they can't synthesize it. Since we can't either, giving them a bit of our C source should work out okay.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (GDulk)

996

Wow, there's nothing like watching Trump get attacked live.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (LUgeY)

997 I just read that the police are saying they didn't cancel it

The organizers did....which is good, it would have been much worse


Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:36 AM (xsQZk)
I
had read that the police had forced the cancellation which made me mad
at them for not doing their job and controlling the crowd
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:40 AM (NPofj)

__________


Chicago Police are used to that stuff all the time, so I would think that they could pretty easily handle it and it would be a mark of pride that they would not back down.

One thing made me wonder about the parking lot stories, a witness was saying that they wanted to get to their trunks to get their guns, but the thugs had broken windshields of cars with DT stickers. That many out-of-towners and they didn't break into the trunks for the guns? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (MIKMs)

998 OK, we need to narrow down the cat food vs. dog food discussion.

We're talking DRY cat/dog food.

Say, Nine Lives for the kitties vs. Ol' Roy for the doggies.

(Yes, you can put Valu-Rite on it. You might have to.)

Posted by: filbert at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (s5o+q)

999 Saw a commercial for TWD, looks like a good one, all shows come to a end someday.
Posted by: Skip
--------------

Will Carol kill and eat her boyfriend?

Stay tuned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:47 AM (9mTYi)

1000 7try this again 1000?

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (fizMZ)

1001 would have been nice if CPD gave out some wood shampoo last night, rather than see the brown shirts dancing around in celebration

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (Onoqd)

1002 Actually, they can't defend themselves and are surrendering to migrants and "refugees." Why should we pay for their defense so they can subsidize and surrender themselves into international socialist oblivion?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (dH97I)


They could..... they have the funds... they have the manpower, they have the Military traditions needed to recreate a first rate Army...

Their Government is the problem..... and will remain the problem until we stop propping them up.

Posted by: Don Quixote, formerly BB Wolf, formerly Romeo13... at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (RK8AH)

1003 Why are we going further into debt, protecting those who are already able to protect themselves (EU)?

Oh I agree its an issue, but its not exactly a burning one. If you asked people to list their concerns, it wouldn't make the top 20 for 99% of the population.

Probably spoiled silage

Is there any other kind? For those of you who grew up in cities: silage is... indescribably horrible smelling stuff. Its basically rotting plant matter that is fed to cattle on dairy farms (most of the time) and being downwind of that stuff will knock you the hell over.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (39g3+)

1004 1000!

Posted by: angela urkel at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (B0X2V)

1005 976

Just remember, most rioters ands SJWs are young and pretty healthy. Core out the genitals and feed to the pets so you don't get the diseases
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:43 AM (vP09u)


Wait. Why would I want to give my pets those diseases?

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

1006 See this housewifes one simply trick to actually GAIN an hour of sleep tonight.....

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (qUNWi)

1007 Say, Nine Lives for the kitties vs. Ol' Roy for the doggies.

(Yes, you can put Valu-Rite on it. You might have to.)
Posted by: filbert
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Well, for ewoks, the anti-hairball Friskies dry should be good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (9mTYi)

1008 Close but no cigar.

Hope Votermom doesn't see this

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (fizMZ)

1009 The elephant in the room is what does this bode for election day? Will voters be granted free access to polling stations?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (Nwg0u)

1010 Looks like some idiot tried to charge the stage at the Trump rally. The secret service folks took him out really quick.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (cR/4a)

1011 Test post. Just saw the sidebar thing and checking to see if I got spite banned when I wasn't looking.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (ZbV+0)

1012 Where's the pert threrd.

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (qUNWi)

1013 Just when I thought Rubio couldn't beclown himself more. Cruz's statements have a semblance of balance. Rubio went all in to blame Trump and threw out the First Amendment. With a silly smirk at the end.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (rs5De)

1014 Too bad about Emerson's suicide, but if it was true about carpal tunnel, I can see that a man whose entire life was the skill in his hands would feel he had no reason to live anymore.

Although I think I would prefer the Aubrey McClendon route, which at least leaves open the possibility of an accidental death for the purposes of survivor's insurance benefit. Single car accident, aim for a concrete bridge abutment at 60 mph, with no seatbelt on. Although he should have waited more than 24 hours after he was indicted to have at least made it look kind of accidental. (but as far as pain and suffering, that was just as quick a way out as a gunshot, maybe quicker)

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (/jecC)

1015 I'm waiting to see Carol go all Rambo on her captures.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 11:49 AM (iQIUe)

1016
Dogs and cats dont get The Syph, G-Drip, etc from ingesting them.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:50 AM (vP09u)

1017 1000
7try this again 1000?

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:48 AM (fizMZ)


Good job, Skip... you are 1000th.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:50 AM (NPofj)

1018 997. The daily mail has the CPD statement

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 11:50 AM (xsQZk)

1019 Ola, DG. Late morning Thread. We're all just saying stupid shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:44 AM (bceFx)



Then I'll fit right in. My entire existence seems to be filled with saying stupid shit.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at March 12, 2016 11:50 AM (+eR2D)

1020 I would swear I was 1001, but now I am 1000. Is someone yanking my chain?

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:50 AM (fizMZ)

1021 "Will Carol kill and eat her boyfriend?

Stay tuned."



Her boyfriend now? No. She will whack somebody before this season is over though. She's stone cold.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:51 AM (bceFx)

1022 To prove his point, Cruz should schedule his own rally in Chicago to show he world how it goes with terrorists when you talk nice.

This sums it up well. Trump's rhetoric didn't cause this, Obama's did.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:51 AM (39g3+)

1023 One last post then to the writing.

Posts are getting vaporized, hence the shifting numbers. Yes we have a trool in the thread.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2016 11:51 AM (viJS2)

1024 Cruz isn't dumb enough to schedule a rally on a college campus.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 11:52 AM (wnwJC)

1025 818

Thanks for the link; the Powerline comments on who is to blame for the protests are great:

"Blaming Trump for inflammatory rhetoric would make sense if his followers were roaming the streets attacking passers-by, or infiltrating Clinton and Sanders rallies and attacking Democrats. But they aren't."

Posted by: m at March 12, 2016 11:52 AM (S/1cF)

1026 My favorite last night was Meaghan Kelly asking the reporter at the riot...

Is its a Move On group? or a Sanders Group?

Not knowing that they are one and the same as Move On has endorsed Sanders...

Posted by: Don Quixote, formerly BB Wolf, formerly Romeo13... at March 12, 2016 11:46 AM (RK8AH)


Meh. I don't think the Fox reporter was at all clear on what was happening. I also got the impression he didn't want to identify that the majority - or a good size - of the crowd were BLM activists. Cause raysist, I guess.

But you're right about Move On. They support all of the above.

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:52 AM (hgBpU)

1027 Here's a working link to The Schoe(umlaut)dinger Sessions for 2016:
http://jqi.umd.edu/Schrodinger-sessions-II

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (dH97I)

1028 I think the number of people who wish we charged for protecting other
countries is pretty small and overlaps mostly with "people who wish pot
was legal"



Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:33 AM (39g3+)





You'd be wrong...



Why are we going further into debt, protecting those who are already able to protect themselves (EU)?
----
It's worse than that. When we pay for Europe's defense it free's up their budgets for wasteful social programs. Which America's domestic enemies then point to and whine about how we don't have cradle to grave socialism like the europeans. So we borrow to keep europe safe, and we borrow to have half their "safety net".

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (ZbV+0)

1029 She deserved it cause she wore a dress and walked all sexy down the street. Ok, got it. You guys are seriously retarded on this. After Tuesday, you'll let it go, right?

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (e7T6D)

1030 Concerning the Trump rally last night:

It is Trump's supporters that I am supporting here, they are lower middle class and working class people, they are the people who I was born and raised among, they are my people and they are righteously angry, they are trying to take their government back and they get nothing but scorn, contempt and the back of the hand from the Elite.
I understand them and I love them because I am one of them, their problems are my problems, to do injustice to them is to do injustice to me, sure I am frustrated that many of them can't see that Ted Cruz is the better weapon to accomplish their goals but I will NEVER abandon them and I will ALWAYS defend them as best I can.

Posted by: Shoey at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (vA94g)

1031 I would swear I was 1001, but now I am 1000. Is someone yanking my chain?


Are we supposed to just lie down for this shit?

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (qUNWi)

1032 The Trump-haters just didn't pick up on it, as they were fixated (as they still are) on what a mean, boorish, arrogant Not-Nice Guy who isn't a Real Republican he is.


I think most of us who are critical of Trump just figured it was another wild statement that bore no relation to the reality of how foreign and military policy has to be conducted in the real world. It certainly did nothing to increase his appeal.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (bZ7mE)

1033 Sup guys! It's a gorgeous day here in scenic somewhere-suburban-in-central-mass but I only know that from looking out the window over my coffee.

I love soft-boiled eggs.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (ubByS)

1034 "Then I'll fit right in. My entire existence seems to be filled with saying stupid shit."



I know the feeling. Nobody listens and nobody cares.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (bceFx)

1035 I also got the impression he didn't want to identify that the majority - or a good size - of the crowd were BLM activists. Cause raysist, I guess.

But you're right about Move On. They support all of the above.
Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:52 AM (hgBpU)

Here's my release valve for that sort of nonsense: https://www.youtube.com/user/ColinFlaherty712/videos

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (dH97I)

1036 The elephant in the room is what does this bode for election day? Will voters be granted free access to polling stations?

This is a good point.

What happens on November if rioters swarm Republican-friendly voting areas and start blocking them off, beating people up, and breaking things? It worked for the Brown Shirts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (39g3+)

1037 Ok some one just grabbed Trumps leg at the rally and tried to pull him down


ENOUGH

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (zOTsN)

1038
does anyone know where Cruz is today?
Posted by: Skeezix



He made a fort under the living-room coffee table with the cushions from the couch.

Where he's hiding.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (kdS6q)

1039 "Well, on second thought, let's not go to AoS. It is a silly place."

Posted by: kraken at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (sdxPm)

1040 Does anybody know anything about Katya's left eyeball from last night?

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (qUNWi)

1041 Don't know what everyone reads online but have College Insurrection will keep you up on the leftist activities on universities.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (fizMZ)

1042 "We shut Trump down! Beautiful gathering of anti racist youth"

-- Bill Ayers


Yup, that's all you need to know about that crowd.

Regardless of what Trump has said (and he is accountable for it), this is bigger than Trump - this is about mob rule, a mob that has been indoctrinated and led by people who have never had America's best interests at heart.

They only want to stop what is looking like a potentially winning GOP candidate, someone who is appealing to people outside of the GOP party. They are willing to use violent means, if necessary (as Ayers has done in the past).

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:55 AM (NOIQH)

1043 909 Our troops are there because it serves OUR interests.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 11:30 AM (NPofj)
---

Good one! Oh, wait, you're serious!? What decade do you live in? The 1940's?

Define "interests" - yours or those of the man unfortunately commanding the military from the Oval Office?

Posted by: Saltydonnie at March 12, 2016 11:55 AM (zBwYh)

1044 Where's the pert threrd.

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I'm hoping my sweet baby is featured today.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:55 AM (Nwg0u)

1045 As far as pissing off fans - hasn't that been the "thing" in TV lately, killing off beloved characters as some sort of surprise? See: Game of Thrones.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (NOIQH)
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I don't know if it has that much shock value anymore. We've come to expect a death at the end of a season, especially of the lead's love interest. It's emotionally punchy with minimal impact on the main story arc, gains sympathy for our hero/heroine, and clears the deck for a new character.

I remember what a punch in the gut it was when Buffy's mom died because she was such a nice bit of normalcy in the crazy swirl of Buff's life. Back then death wasn't dealt quite as often.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 11:55 AM (jR7Wy)

1046 Trump amazingly calm as secret service swarms in. Goes right back to talking points.

[ ] a facist.
[X] looking presidential.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:56 AM (bA+CL)

1047 #767

Is there a reason you want to stay with Windows 8? Most of the consternation I hear is from Win7 die-hards but I've rarely heard anyone preferring Windows 8.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 11:56 AM (IdCqF)

1048 Eleven saw that too as was wondering, after my injury on New year eve it brought it home.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:56 AM (fizMZ)

1049
I would swear I was 1001, but now I am 1000. Is someone yanking my chain?
Posted by: Skip



Someone was found to be -- inconvenient to the narrative.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 11:57 AM (kdS6q)

1050 "We shut Trump down! Beautiful gathering of anti racist youth"

-- Bill Ayers

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Bozo doesn't hardly know him at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 11:57 AM (Nwg0u)

1051 Cavuto just had recent Trump rally clip someone might have tried to grab Donald.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:57 AM (fizMZ)

1052 As Trump continues to suck all the oxygen out of the campaign, does
anyone know where Cruz is today? If he pulled out of Florida, which
states are his campaign targeting? Illinois?
---
I have a friend doing phone calls for Cruz and he swears to me while one of the superpacs pulled out of Florida, the phone efforts have been redoubled. They think they have a chance of beating Rubio and if Rubio does disintegrate over the weekend, of winning Florida outright.

I think the analysis is erring on the side of hopeful, but they are remaining active.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 12, 2016 11:57 AM (ZbV+0)

1053 Trump attack. SS goes into action.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (bceFx)

1054 Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (ubByS)

So you're not perma-banned? Guess I'm glad since I usually like your posts that aren't actively interacting with Cruz supporters.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (GDulk)

1055 Where's the pert threrd.
-----

Is there a Saturday boobies thread now?

Posted by: Joanne at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (hgBpU)

1056 Like it or not, a buttload of people have been waiting for someone to stand up to these leftist punks - kind of sad it turns out to be Trump, but it's only going to earn him more support.

I think he won the nomination last night.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (cR/4a)

1057

A protestor LITERALLY tried to drag Trump off the stage



ENOUGH

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (zOTsN)

1058

900 posts of circular logic and circular jerking, with no condoms or eye protection... really ladies and gents, if this amuses you, good enough, but it does get old for the rest of us.

"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown."

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (vP09u)

1059 Bozo doesn't hardly know him at all.

"Just a guy from the Neighborhood"

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (bA+CL)

1060 This protest shit could very easily get out of hand, resulting in some dead Commies--which of course will be blamed on anyone other than the Commies.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (Dttnn)

1061 I think he won the nomination last night.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (cR/4a)

I think Ted Cruz handed it to him on a silver platter last night.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (dH97I)

1062 I know the feeling. Nobody listens and nobody cares.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (bceFx



*fistbump*

I think I'm gonna go get a shower then hop on the old xbox and run people over in GTA.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (+eR2D)

1063 I know the feeling. Nobody listens and nobody cares.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
--------

Bah.
Not the right attitude for someone who admires Walnut stocks and blued steel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (9mTYi)

1064 Pet threads have been later, 2 pm last week and 4am the first week

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (fizMZ)

1065 1040 eleven,
I hope everything was okay too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (egOGm)

1066 >>I don't know if it has that much shock value anymore. We've come to
expect a death at the end of a season, especially of the lead's love
interest.

Think the whole 'Glenn is dead' tease earlier in the season was testing the water with fans. If they're following the graphic novel's story, then they will be killing some regulars, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (NOIQH)

1067 Posts are getting vaporized, hence the shifting numbers. Yes we have a trool in the thread.

-
What is this, Calvinball?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (Nwg0u)

1068 Cruz isn't dumb enough to schedule a rally on a college campus.

Once more:

"So whose bright idea was it to have a Trump rally in the middle of uber-liberal Chicago?" - @EyeOnPolitics
---
"Somebody who thought this was still America." - @instapundit

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (39g3+)

1069 #1045

I've long had the theory that Joyce Summers died as a retroactive consequence of Dawn's existence. One of the things that can go wrong in childbirth is strokes due to elevated blood pressure putting stress on a weak bit of vascular tubing. The ripple effects of the spell that created Dawn finally caught up with her.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (IdCqF)

1070 Hey Burt, Ernie, how about a threesome?

Posted by: Oscar Wilde the Grouch at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (B0X2V)

1071 Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:55 AM (NOIQH)

That indoctrinated mob is a big part of why I pulled my kids out of public school. I was *watching* them turn into zombies (no intellectual curiosity, just a need to emote) and I haven't seen anything in the subsequent years to make me regret that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (GDulk)

1072 1054 Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 11:53 AM (ubByS)

Looks like he has been disappeared.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (bA+CL)

1073 I've already signed on for Star Citizen. Neat stuff and WIP.

Please don't give them any of your money on a pre-order. The project is poorly managed and will likely result in catastrophic disappointment and discredit the use of kickstarter for game development

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (1D4Ef)

1074 Pm not am , this machine has a mind of its own.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:01 PM (fizMZ)

1075 "I have a friend doing phone calls for Cruz and he swears to me while one of the superpacs pulled out of Florida, the phone efforts have been redoubled. They think they have a chance of beating Rubio and if Rubio does disintegrate over the weekend, of winning Florida outright.

I think the analysis is erring on the side of hopeful, but they are remaining active."

Thanks.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 12, 2016 12:01 PM (WnCSK)

1076 >>>>Well, I buy the 50lb. bags of generic dry food. So, cheaper. It's a little bland, and rather monotonous, but the price is right.<<<<<

Kaboom?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at March 12, 2016 12:02 PM (tEDMc)

1077 Why is John Roberts on Fox, he is totally uncurious

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 12:02 PM (Onoqd)

1078
857 I read Cruz's comment, I don't see anything wrong with what he said. If the roles were reversed, you better believe that Trump would be making this all about Cruz.
Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 08:44 AM (nyYhO)
__________________________
THIS ^^^^^^^
Posted by: redridinghood at March 12, 2016 11:17 AM (7GQM/)

In that case both men would be wrong.

Sadly for Cruz only he has been so tested and failed.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (MQEz6)

1079 Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2016 11:56 AM (IdCqF)

It's not that I love 8. I'm very change adverse though and 8 works well enough for my needs. Mostly though, I *hate* being *made* to do something and deeply resent having my computer be hijacked and my time wasted.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (GDulk)

1080 Went off to read the Overheard at Wal-Mart and bad parental texting articles, and blog those and another item, texted (not badly) with daughter, chatted with Milady, and came back expecting there to be another thread. Huh.

Early morning thread becoming late morning and (Eastern time) early afternoon thread, eh?

Hasn't everything been said three times over by now?

Posted by: mindful webworker - over and over and over at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (l/Pix)

1081 1051- Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 11:57 AM (fizMZ)
--

Was Trump bruised? Please tell me he wasn't bruised. God help the fascist that bruised him. Goin' uptown for assault, dont'cha know.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (zBwYh)

1082 >.A protestor LITERALLY tried to drag Trump off the stage


Whoa, seriously? That's assault. Very bad.
Can you imagine the outrage if that happened to Hillary or Obama?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (NOIQH)

1083 I think Ted Cruz handed it to him on a silver platter last night.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 12, 2016 11:59 AM (dH97I)
------------
Yep, Cruz said exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time. Kasich and Rubio are also amazingly tone deaf as well. It's really astounding. The best thing they could have done is just keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (cR/4a)

1084 "Hold's and kisses my blue and steel"

Nobody likes blue and steel these days. They want "tactical."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (bceFx)

1085 Ok some one just grabbed Trumps leg at the rally and tried to pull him down





ENOUGH
---
Have the Secret Service been disarmed or something? WTF?

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (ZbV+0)

1086 "Are you sure about that? I seem to remember that SD for the Repubs are assigned during the primary along with the vote."

There are a handful of Repub super delegates. Maybe 100 to 150 politicians and RNC leadership.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 12, 2016 12:04 PM (kfoLf)

1087 Does anybody know anything about Katya's left eyeball from last night?

Is that a band? Because I knew about them before they got big.

/hipster

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:04 PM (39g3+)

1088 Does anybody know anything about Katya's left eyeball from last night?
Posted by: eleven
---------------

Detached vitrieous? (sp?)

She was sent home, with appointment with opthamologist this a.m.

She should be OK, I hope.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:04 PM (9mTYi)

1089 We will turn asia into a no-go zone.

Posted by: Google AI at March 12, 2016 12:05 PM (B0X2V)

1090 Still waiting for MSM demands that Bernie disavow rioters shouting his name.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 12, 2016 12:05 PM (rs5De)

1091 Hmmmmm
T is wearing a golf skirt
Do they sell those but below the ankle
Waaaaay too much skin showing

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 12:05 PM (xsQZk)

1092 Good one! Oh, wait, you're serious!? What decade do you live in? The 1940's?

Define "interests" - yours or those of the man unfortunately commanding the military from the Oval Office?


Middle East has a whole lot of the world's oil in it and a whole lot of people aiming to conquer the world for Allah. Now you have two choices: Either Bush was right and the Middle East is capable of democratic self-rule, with a bit of help, or they have to be ruled by an empire or local strongmen. In the first case, we need to intervene. In the second, we have an interest in ensuring that those empires or strongmen are not hostile. Either way means that we need to take an active role in the Middle East. We cannot ask them to pay for our military, as they would simply then go to someone - a rival power - that imposes no such conditions and we lose all hope of shaping the world to our interests.

Trump is a nationalist, people say. An effective nationalism isn't going to be possible by in the modern world without a proactive foreign policy.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:05 PM (bZ7mE)

1093

Have the Secret Service been disarmed or something? WTF?

Saw that live on teh stream. Rather scary for a few seconds until security jumped up there to protect him.

BOLO for videos from the crowd. I saw a bunch of people recording it on their phones.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 12:06 PM (LUgeY)

1094 1091. And no you're not getting picture
And no video Garrett

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (xsQZk)

1095 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:04 PM (9mTYi)
Thank you, I'm glad she went to the hospital.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (egOGm)

1096 Sadly for Cruz only he has been so tested and failed.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (MQEz6)
________
See clip of Trump responding to Pamela Geller's Draw Mohammed contest.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

1097 Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (bA+CL)

Lol, got me to go back and look.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (GDulk)

1098 Ted is live on Fox in Baldwin Mo.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:08 PM (fizMZ)

1099 Nobody likes blue and steel these days. They want "tactical."
----------------

Lauren Bacall vs. Madonna

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:08 PM (9mTYi)

1100 That indoctrinated mob is a big part of why I pulled my kids out of public school. I was *watching* them turn into zombies (no intellectual curiosity, just a need to emote) and I haven't seen anything in the subsequent years to make me regret that.

It is absolutely wrong for any parent to leave their kids in public schools. At any cost, you must get them out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:08 PM (39g3+)

1101 I went ahead and let MS take my machine to 10 long ago.

Better to just do it and get the new learning curve over with.

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 12:08 PM (qUNWi)

1102 I think the number of people who wish we charged for protecting other countries is pretty small and overlaps mostly with "people who wish pot was legal

We do charge them. Germany, South Korea- they pay the US to be there. Not nearly enough to cover costs, but they do chip in.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2016 12:09 PM (KRwzj)

1103 hmm . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 12, 2016 12:09 PM (fQ/0p)

1104 Have the Secret Service been disarmed or something? WTF?

-
Trump Cincinnati rally cancelled because the SS say they haven't been able to complete security measures. See WZ.

The thugs are winning.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 12:09 PM (Nwg0u)

1105 the Middle East is capable of democratic self-rule,

++++++++++++++++

false, otherwise democracy would have broken out sometimes in the last 1400 years.

islam is to man as rabies are to a dog

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 12:10 PM (Onoqd)

1106 Good one! Oh, wait, you're serious!? What decade do you live in? The 1940's?

Define "interests" - yours or those of the man unfortunately commanding the military from the Oval Office?
=====================

Read Max Hasting's "Winston's War: Churchill 1940-1945"

Great Britain was in for the fight of its life against Hitler, and Roosevelt made sure that the UK paid hard money for everything it purchased from the US, to the point where the United States sent a USN cruiser to South Africa to pick up the last British gold reserves for payment. Only after the Brits were stripped to their skivvies was the Lend Lease Act passed.

So, there's precedent.

Posted by: mrp at March 12, 2016 12:10 PM (JBggj)

1107 Detached vitrieous? (sp?)

She was sent home, with appointment with opthamologist this a.m.

She should be OK, I hope.


Thanks Mike.

Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 12:10 PM (qUNWi)

1108 Still waiting for MSM demands that Bernie disavow rioters shouting his name.
Posted by: Ignoramus
-----------------

It will be a long, long wait.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:10 PM (9mTYi)

1109 Is The Donald still going to speak at Dayton? I see a live stream for that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 12:10 PM (jR7Wy)

1110 " Ted is live on Fox in Baldwin Mo."

Watching.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:11 PM (bceFx)

1111 Regarding the violence attendant at Trump rallies, both that by the attendees and the ones shutting them down:

The left has gotten away with violence for years--actual, physical and psychological violence.


And they've paid zero in consequences--not one damned thing.


In truth, they've gained from it--from gaining power to favorable
coverage; "mostly peaceful protests" is how they're always described.


They have this underwear shitstain of a president who has urged them, "get in their faces; punch back twice as hard."





And still--STILL--we have people who's first instinct is to blame the victims. "Oh, they shouldn't have provoked them so."





No.





I won't be part of that.





I will not accept the leftists definition of free speech--only for that speech I agree with.





Unpopular opinions, evil opinions, hateful opinions, and, yes, racist
opinions are the very core of the protections of the 1st Amendment.





A government--or people enabled by those in power--that picks and
chooses which speech is allowed, even if it's stopping the most vile of
racist speech, is soon moving on to lesser targets.





Because the target all along was never the racist, the hateful, the evil
or the unpopular--it is the voices of all political opposition.





And giving them the power to shut down ANY speech they disagree with is
giving them the power to shut down ALL speech they disagree with.





And every one of us here holds opinions and beliefs they disagree with . . . .





So, it is indeed a time for choosing, after this long train of abuses
and usurpations, after long and patient suffering these insults and
injuries, what is the path forward?





Because these people who shut down that Trump event (after ever and ever
more brazen attempts to disrupt prior events), they don't mean to leave
behind a world where we are free to disagree with them. They mean a
world where the full force and weight of the entire machinery of
government either grinds us under or discards us in a long trench in an
empty, nameless field.





Look at the faces of those people who attend a Trump rally. Look at
those people who support him. They are Americans. Are we really going to fall for the
leftist lies? That these are racists? Hateful? Evil? Stupid and awful
humans? Unworthy of having their opinions? That it's best to make them
less than human, deny them the protections of fundamental rights, the
easier to dispose of?





When the violence happens from the left, we are told we must understand
the motivations--neatly allowing them to sidestep actual condemnation of
the violence.





When the violence is from the "right" (and I don't put Trump on the
right, he's a populist), we are told--without question or hesitation--to
condemn the violence.





Violence attending political events is the norm worldwide. What is unusual, disturbing is that it is now here, in America.





And it would not have found purchase, would not have found acceptance if
it was not producing results--silencing political opposition.





All systems, sooner or later, copy success. Even those that abhor the means if they intend to survive.





What I am saying is, someone getting punched, beaten at a political
rally doesn't happen in a country that actually respects the fundamental
right to free speech for everyone.


A political rally doesn't get shut down in that country.


A speaker doesn't get hounded from public in that country.


Campaign headquarters don't get shot up, property destroyed.





These leftists do not respect, do not accept, the fundamental, God-given
right to free speech for everyone and are uninterested in a peaceful resolution.


They do not understand, they do they want, nor will they allow a reasoned discourse among equals.




They mean violence, they only understand violence, they only accept violence . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 12, 2016 12:11 PM (fQ/0p)

1112 Nobody likes blue and steel these days. They want "tactical."
----------------

Lauren Bacall vs. Madonna


Seconded.

One reason why I gravitated towards mil-surps instead of ARs is that I prefer wooden stocks to plastic.

I also am a bit skeptical of the utility of pistol grips on non-full-autos.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:12 PM (bZ7mE)

1113 Trump twitter says Cincy rally is on.

Posted by: crom at March 12, 2016 12:12 PM (H5Fok)

1114 Posted by: eleven at March 12, 2016 12:08 PM (qUNWi)

Too stubborn. Also, makes me feel like it's *their* machine, not mine and wonder what *else* they can do to it. If I had any tech proficiency (and didn't do on-line gaming) I'd go to one of the alternative OSs.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 12:12 PM (GDulk)

1115 @1096 mustbequantum-That doesn't matter to the Trump followers. Cult of Personality.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:13 PM (wnwJC)

1116 Wow, Cruz on Fox... at rally... really disingenuous and playin' loose ascribing Trump positions. I've not heard him do this before., but in fairness, this is the longest I've listened to him... kinda cheapy shot

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 12:13 PM (e7T6D)

1117 Was I too hard on the gun thing?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:13 PM (bceFx)

1118

Is The Donald still going to speak at Dayton? I see a live stream for that.

That just wrapped up. I got to see the last 20 minutes or so online.

Some protestor tried to grab Trump while he was speaking. Four rather large-ish gentlemen hopped up on stage to protect him. He gathered himself and resumed his speech after remarking, "What do I need this for?" to much laughter.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 12:14 PM (LUgeY)

1119 " Ok some one just grabbed Trumps leg at the rally and tried to pull him down "


Has anyone seen Ace today?

Posted by: doug at March 12, 2016 12:15 PM (xTHRW)

1120 Fox is reporting a object was thrown at Donald earlier today.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:15 PM (fizMZ)

1121 Well, this sucks. I just discovered that my hot water heater is leaking all over the place. I put a call in and a guy will be out on Monday morning to take a look at at it and give me an estimate for replacing it.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 12:15 PM (sdi6R)

1122 Royal should know better than that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:15 PM (bceFx)

1123 One week sober is a piss-poor way to go through life. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 12, 2016 12:16 PM (Dwehj)

1124 Wow, Cruz on Fox... at rally... really disingenuous and playin' loose ascribing Trump positions. I've not heard him do this before., but in fairness, this is the longest I've listened to him... kinda cheapy shot

In fairness no one, including Trump, quite knows what Trump's positions really are.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:16 PM (bZ7mE)

1125 1121
Well, this sucks. I just discovered that my hot water heater is leaking
all over the place. I put a call in and a guy will be out on Monday
morning to take a look at at it and give me an estimate for replacing
it.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 12:15 PM (sdi6R)
call water heaters only....they will come out today

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (0O7c5)

1126 The goons shouldn't have been able to shut down the Trump rally last night. The person who tossed something at Trump this morning should be arrested and prosecuted.

Trump isn't my choice for this nomination,and I really hope he doesn't get it, but leftist thugs can't be allowed to get away with this. Sadly, it will probably help Trump. He's been so lucky in the actions of his opponents.

Posted by: Jill v2 at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (73TVV)

1127 1037
Ok some one just grabbed Trumps leg at the rally and tried to pull him down





ENOUGH

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 11:54 AM (zOTsN)

I saw someone throw something at his back and SS rushed to protect him. I haven't seen video of someone grabbing his leg.
Here's the video of someone throwing something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNelSuoHzlI

Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (v0/PR)

1128 >>Supposedly, TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple

of episodes. They expect the fan base to be pissed off. Why wd you

deliberately piss off the fan base?

--------------------------------------
Oh, goody! I think
I'm done with that show anyway - bleak and repetitive. Suppose that's
why they're going to kill off regulars, to get new people and story
lines.

As far as pissing off fans - hasn't that been the "thing"
in TV lately, killing off beloved characters as some sort of surprise?
See: Game of Thrones.


Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 11:39 AM (NOIQH)


People who have read the comics, which I have, could tell you who they expect to die, but the producers of the tv show have ALWAYS made it clear they are not bound by the comic.


There are characters still alive on the show who have been long dead in the comic. There are characters who died on the show who are still alive in the book. Some main characters on the show did not appear AT ALL in the comic.


Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (TOk1P)

1129 @Yip-Cheap shot? You really, really, REALLY, do not listen to what Trump says, do you?

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (wnwJC)

1130 Well, this sucks. I just discovered that my hot water heater is leaking all over the place. I put a call in and a guy will be out on Monday morning to take a look at at it and give me an estimate for replacing it.

rick ... I had to replace my own a few months ago. Really not that tough - if you want to tackle it yourself.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (qmMG2)

1131 ...Now you have two choices...

No. There are a whole lot of choices. WW1 started because some ossified rulers thought there was no other choice and it was in their best interest.

I despise Obama but his lack of leadership may pay big dividends to the US (no NWO, big FU to GHWB and WJC).
Rest of the world not-so-much.

Decide. You want a well run US with as much freedom as possible or do you want a world government that is collapsing even before it comes out of the closet?

Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 12:18 PM (CRXed)

1132 What part is leaking?

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:18 PM (fizMZ)

1133 We have a "Tokyo University" in town here attached to Willamette University that is sort of an Exchange student thing from Japan. So lots of tiny cute Japanese girls running about with douchey looking Japanese guys (who are also tiny). But I saw an asian girl the other day walking down the street with a face mask on like she was in Beijing. Salem gets some pollution but overall its really clean and fresh here, particularly that day. I didn't get it. Is the habit so ingrained they just do it everywhere?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)

1134 "Ok some one just grabbed Trumps leg at the rally and tried to pull him down"

Thanks for the heads up. I went to the live feed and it happened at about 1:45:50.

The SS jumped up on stage so fast. It was scary. Must see.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (kfoLf)

1135 Fox is reporting a object was thrown at Donald earlier today.

My SJW minions are wild and wacky...but they're lovable.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (Dwehj)

1136 Rickl-- why would you have a hot water heater?

I would think a cold water heater would be more useful

Posted by: Harry paratestes at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (AkOaV)

1137 Cruz has left my voting list for bowing to the leftists.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (3myMJ)

1138 Aaaand we have more of this to come:

Ilya Sheyman, a failed Illinois contender for Congress
and the executive director of MoveOn.org Political Action, has taken
credit for the violence at a cancelled Trump event last night in
Chicago. He promised similar violence and disruption will occur at
future Trump political events leading up to the election....

"Mr. Trump and the Republican leaders who support him and his
hate-filled rhetoric should be on notice after tonight's events," on the
George Soros funded MoveOn web page. "To all of those who took to the
streets of Chicago, we say thank you for standing up and saying enough
is enough. To Donald Trump, and the GOP, we say, welcome to the general
election."


Peachy.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (NOIQH)

1139 The last thread is leaking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (bceFx)

1140
Well, this sucks. I just discovered that my hot water heater is leaking all over the place. I put a call in and a guy will be out on Monday morning to take a look at at it and give me an estimate for replacing it.
Posted by: rickl



FYI - The water heater regulations that the previous Republican Congress passed have gone active. So $$$:

hwww.thisoldhouse.com/toh/video/0,,20956386,00.html

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (kdS6q)

1141 1131
rick ... I had to replace my own a few months ago. Really not that tough - if you want to tackle it yourself.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 12:17 PM (qmMG2)


No, I most certainly do not. That's what my checkbook is for.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (sdi6R)

1142 So you're not perma-banned? Guess I'm glad since I usually like your posts that aren't actively interacting with Cruz supporters.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 11:58 AM (GDulk)

Heh, well thanks. I guess I do need to calm down. I talked to the powers that be and am on probation.

I'm on my best behavior

Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (ubByS)

1143 I didn't see who grabbed his leg

I saw him look behind him and then very clearly his right leg was being vigorously pulled backwards from behind

He had to hold on to the podium to keep his balance.

And then security rushed in. Fox is reporting someone behind him threw or was trying to throw something at Trump

I didn't see that

Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)

1144 I replace my own as I go through them every couple years, if you can do things like this it's easy, if not it would be like building a rocket ship in your back yard.
But a temporary fix might be possible.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (fizMZ)

1145 Make them Jap robots out of steel! Rosie O'Donnel nailed it.... fire can't melt steel, and nuke-core in water certainly can't be as hot as fire! Right?

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:30 AM (e7T6D)


I know it's an open thread, but who the fuck is "Guccifer"? I mean, it's presumably not the Romanian hacker who goes by that name. If it's not a known Moron, or does not provide a link to some reputable news source, I'm disinclined to believe a word of his screed.

Posted by: some wealthy Brit artist at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (/i7Ua)

1146 In fairness no one, including Trump, quite knows what Trump's positions really are.

Yeah its hard to lie about Trump's positions on anything, because just about anything you claim, he'll have said at some point or another.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (39g3+)

1147

What part is leaking?



The wet part.

What?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (LUgeY)

1148 'Decide. You want a well run US with as much freedom as possible or do you want a world government that is collapsing even before it comes out of the closet? '

I want twin 27 y/o redheads with natural born lady parts, strict height-weight requirements, whose father owns a chain of liquor stores...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (vP09u)

1149 "Mr. Trump and the Republican leaders who support him and his
hate-filled rhetoric should be on notice after tonight's events," on the
George Soros funded MoveOn web page. "To all of those who took to the
streets of Chicago, we say thank you for standing up and saying enough
is enough. To Donald Trump, and the GOP, we say, welcome to the general
election."
Peachy.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (NOIQH)

Bernie Sanders is a wrinkly old muppet that has been slipped over the hand of socialist authoritarianism.

Fight the socialists wherever you find them.

Forget the candidates and stand together with those who fight for democracy.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (ubByS)

1150 @Grey Fox- No, nobody really knows. Liked what he said when he threw his hat in the ring and stirred things up. Given his recent support of Democrats and GOPe pols and walking back positions, it really makes me wonder what Trump supporters hear when this guy (Trump)speaks now.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (wnwJC)

1151 We're is it leaking from, pipe or tank itself?

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (fizMZ)

1152 JROD, the cheap shot was ... He said Trump was willing to work with Reid to pick a new court justice.... when Cruz knows better than anyone that Reid isn't in the Senate next year... the crooked bastard is retiring... and I've never heard Trump mention working with Democrats to pick court nominees, much less Reid. "that" was a cheap shot.

Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 12:22 PM (e7T6D)

1153 Ace the original COKE had the real stuff in it...NOT FRUCKtNOWS WOT....Bud super light is all ya got??? fack it...

give me a Double Trump with a Clinton on tha Rocks then.....

Posted by: saf at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (qKiBT)

1154 "Bernie Sanders is a wrinkly old muppet that has been slipped over the hand of socialist authoritarianism.

Fight the socialists wherever you find them.

Forget the candidates and stand together with those who fight for democracy."


Oh, God.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (bceFx)

1155 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (egOGm)

1096 Sadly for Cruz only he has been so tested and failed.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 12:03 PM (MQEz6)
________
See clip of Trump responding to Pamela Geller's Draw Mohammed contest.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2016 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

Pam Geller did nothing wrong and Trump was wrong to suggest she did.

Trump did nothing wrong and Cruz was wrong to suggest he did.

So, yeah, both men fucked up.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (MQEz6)

1156 @Ghost of kari- I prefer those that fight for liberty.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (wnwJC)

1157 That indoctrinated mob is a big part of why I pulled
my kids out of public school. I was *watching* them turn into zombies
(no intellectual curiosity, just a need to emote) and I haven't seen
anything in the subsequent years to make me regret that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 12, 2016 12:00 PM (GDulk)

I didn't pull my kids out (but I would if they were little now) but I did make them do research to refute in their own minds they stupidity they were being fed.

One of my proudest moments as a parent was when son1 went to the principal of his middle school and demanded (and got) equal time to present the actual science which does not support AGW when his science teacher showed them An Inconvenient Truth. He did a kick ass job with his hour and a half presentation too.


The teacher hated him after that but he knew I had his back if she tried to grade him down.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (NPofj)

1158
Heh, well thanks. I guess I do need to calm down. I talked to the powers that be and am on probation.


Yeah I enjoy your comments but this election has people going a bit crazy (boss man included) and we all need to dial it back a bit. We're all buds here, except for MUMR, and we can all use support and humor, not angry vitriol.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (39g3+)

1159 Rickl,, hook a hose to the outlet and drain it out of the house, condo, whatever.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (3myMJ)

1160 1151 We're is it leaking from, pipe or tank itself?
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:21 PM (fizMZ)/i]

It looks like it's leaking from the bottom of the tank. i.e., it needs replacing.

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (sdi6R)

1161 ...You really, really, REALLY, do not listen to what Trump says, do you? ...

Why would anyone bother? Trump says contradictory things. The reason Trump is likely to win is he is the hope and change candidate this time.

Think of Trump and Obama as lottery tickets and McCaine, Romney as wicked-witch-of-the-east (mop-and-bucket, parking-ticket).

Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (CRXed)

1162 No. There are a whole lot of choices. WW1 started because some ossified rulers thought there was no other choice and it was in their best interest.


What other choices would those be?

I figure it is a pretty simple binary situation - either democratic self-rule is possible or it is not possible. Either answer requires that we remain active in the ME, I think.

So give me a scenario in which we can stay out of the ME w/o ceding control of a strategic area to our enemies/rivals.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (bZ7mE)

Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (sdi6R)

1164 Somewhere this morning I think powerlineblog the ring leader of the protest is known

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (fizMZ)

1165 I didn't see who grabbed his leg



Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)


I heard it was a guy named Corey. Or some reporter for Breitbart.


Either/or. These things can be confusing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (TOk1P)

1166 I also am a bit skeptical of the utility of pistol grips on non-full-autos.
Posted by: Grey Fox
-------------

One reason that I have always liked the Mini-14

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (9mTYi)

1167 can we get a freshie?

1153 must be a pig on a phone

Posted by: jake at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (Onoqd)

1168

Chris, it is politeness in Japan to wear a mask if you are ill with URI, snot, cough etc symptoms. It is a much appreciated gesture there.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 12, 2016 12:24 PM (vP09u)

1169 Rickl: And turn the pilot light off and shut off the water above the HWH.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 12:25 PM (3myMJ)

1170 Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 12:20 PM (ubByS)
------------
Glad to see you are still here, word around the camps was that you'd been disappeared.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 12:25 PM (bA+CL)

1171 saw an asian girl the other day walking down the street with a face mask on like she was in Beijing. Salem gets some pollution but overall its really clean and fresh here, particularly that day. I didn't get it. Is the habit so ingrained they just do it everywhere?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)
---
She probably has a cold and doesn't want to spread it. They are all polites like that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 12:25 PM (jR7Wy)

1172
I talked to the powers that be and am on probation. I'm on my best behavior
Posted by: Ghost of kari



Well, hope you learned your lesson about calling people Fascists just because they support another candidate, young man.

*wags forefinger*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 12:25 PM (kdS6q)

1173 "@Ghost of kari- I prefer those that fight for liberty."


He's a plant.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (bceFx)

1174 Oh, God.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (bceFx)
1156 @Ghost of kari- I prefer those that fight for liberty.
Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (wnwJC)

What?

And what?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (ubByS)

1175 JROD, the cheap shot was ... He said Trump was
willing to work with Reid to pick a new court justice.... when Cruz
knows better than anyone that Reid isn't in the Senate next year... the
crooked bastard is retiring... and I've never heard Trump mention
working with Democrats to pick court nominees, much less Reid. "that"
was a cheap shot.


Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 12:22 PM (e7T6D)


I don't consider that a cheap shot... Reid is the face of the Dems in the Senate and Trump has said he would make deals with them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (NPofj)

1176 @Yip-I'm sure Trump would be willing to work with Charles Schumer and Pelosi and McConnell since he donated to their campaigns the last election cycle.

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (wnwJC)

1177 Do you have a leak catch under?
I've had every problem known, once I had a leak in the tank, cut the insulation and tin covering off and put a roof screw in the hole.

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (fizMZ)

1178 Dude are people serious about this? People honestly think I'm a shill.

Cool guys.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - fistbumps for my peeps at March 12, 2016 12:27 PM (ubByS)

1179 This calling people LIV also shd go. There is a nut on HA who posts repeatedly calling everyone and everything White Trash. That's how low it has gotten.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 12:27 PM (iQIUe)

1180 Pam Geller did nothing wrong and Trump was wrong to suggest she did.



Trump did nothing wrong and Cruz was wrong to suggest he did.



So, yeah, both men fucked up.

Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 12:23 PM (MQEz6)


I'm not a fan of Pam Geller, and frankly I don't get the fawning over her that goes on. That being said, lots of people are very touchy on the subject of what happened that night when she held her event.


Factually, I find it hard to argue with Trump's comments. But then, between the night in question and now, I haven't said a word about Pam Geller, because it's an incendiary topic. And I'm not running for President, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 12:28 PM (TOk1P)

1181 re water heater - I assume that the water is coming from the tank, and *not* the over-pressure vent?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 12:28 PM (9mTYi)

1182 Violence? Meh. But hate-filled rhetoric will not be tolerated.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 12, 2016 12:28 PM (Dwehj)

1183
So give me a scenario in which we can stay out of the ME w/o ceding control of a strategic area to our enemies/rivals.
Posted by: Grey Fox


So it's eternal war for eternal peace.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 12:28 PM (FkBIv)

1184 "What?

And what?'


Already said.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (bceFx)

1185 There *is* a nood ya know...

Posted by: HH at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (DrCtv)

1186 I don't agree with Pam all the time but that woman has balls

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (fizMZ)

1187 Just think, it's only March.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (3myMJ)

1188 The Republican Party cannot be salvaged when even a self-proclaimed renegade like Cruz bows to political correctness and left-wing violence. Every time I this election cannot shock me any longer it does. This is all about open borders and cowing the native population into silence and subservience now. A coup has taken place in front of our eyes and our fate is in the hands of a mercurial reality television show.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (6oL+H)

1189 TWD is going to kill off a bunch of regulars the next couple

of episodes.

-
I've been reading the latest from one of my favorite syfy author's, Robert J. Sawyer, entitled Quantum Night. I'm only a quarter way through but so far it is about a psychology professor who discovers that as a student 20 years earlier his brain was damaged when he was a psychology test subject. The effect was to turn him into a "psychological zombie", a consciousless narcissist, and there's a hell of a lot more of them out there.

Now we're talking of TWD and thugs in the street.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (Nwg0u)

1190 ...I want twin 27 y/o redheads with natural born lady parts, strict height-weight requirements, whose father owns a chain of liquor stores...

How about the tits? Natural or enhanced?

Compliments on the 27. The boorish go with 19.

Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (CRXed)

1191 @Yip-I'm sure Trump would be willing to work with Charles Schumer and Pelosi and McConnell since he donated to their campaigns the last election cycle.
Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:26 PM (wnwJC)

*****

Conventional wisdom is that nobody knows what Trump would do, including Trump. So, your statement is a little shaky, though not nearly as unhinged as your normal Trump comment.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 12:29 PM (bUq6W)

1192
I had a leak in the tank, cut the insulation and tin covering off and put a roof screw in the hole.
Posted by: Skip



AoSHQ - Helpful home-care tips that might cause a problem or two at escrow.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (kdS6q)

1193

"Support Nonviolence or We'll Kill You!"

Posted by: White Internationalist Poopie Heads at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (vP09u)

1194 We need a home improvement thread

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (fizMZ)

1195 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 12, 2016 12:27 PM (iQIUe)

But, "Go fuck yourself" is ok?

Interesting rules.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (Zu3d9)

1196 rickl ... I understand. Feel the same way about roofing myself.

So - I checked out the quote for myself on MoveOn. It's legit. They're absolutely promising more of the same.

Then I checked out the comments. Long story short - we're heading for street violence as a best case - maybe worse.

If you don't own a gun, go shopping.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (qmMG2)

1197 @Ricardo Kill-I'm a tradesman/single father with three children, that is stuck in the Bay Area that can't wait to get the fuck back to Nevada. A plant???

Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (wnwJC)

1198 Heh, well thanks. I guess I do need to calm down. I talked to the powers that be and am on probation.

I'm on my best behavior


I must have missed something. I've always found you to be a good-humored and reasonable person even though I disagree with you.

I've been meaning to say something.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:32 PM (bZ7mE)

1199 530 W 54th Ste Arvada, CO 80002

Posted by: hari kari at March 12, 2016 12:34 PM (qQk+U)

1200 I've been Cruz first, Trump second, but last night was really disappointing. The whole thing was a giant hanging curve ball and as a constitutionalist, should have been easy for him. Instead of swinging for the fences, Cruz let it go by.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2016 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)

1201 ...Peachy...

More preachy.

Trump will be voted in by dead people if the people who really run Chicago decide it is in their interest. This helps Trump.

And probably helps Sanders. I think Sanders was hand picked to be Hillary's straw man. Bernie can't win delegates but winning the popular vote sure is embarrassing Hillary.

Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 12:38 PM (CRXed)

1202 She probably has a cold and doesn't want to spread it. They are all polites like that.

That isn't such a bad policy, really. Although if you wear glasses, those things steam up your lenses bad.

Pam Geller did nothing wrong and Trump was wrong to suggest she did.

Trump did nothing wrong and Cruz was wrong to suggest he did.


Good summary. Both dropped the ball when they had a chance to show leadership and class, and stand for liberty. Both should know better, and hopefully will do better next time. Neither one is the spawn of Satan for doing so.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:42 PM (39g3+)

1203
So - I checked out the quote for myself on MoveOn. It's legit. They're absolutely promising more of the same.

Then I checked out the comments. Long story short - we're heading for street violence as a best case - maybe worse.

If you don't own a gun, go shopping.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2016 12:30 PM (qmMG2)


They wouldn't dare try it with Cruz.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 12:43 PM (RcpcZ)

1204 Instead of swinging for the fences, Cruz let it go by.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2016 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)

It's worse than that, Cruz is playing for the other team, and not in a sex way.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 12, 2016 12:43 PM (B0X2V)

1205 "@Ricardo Kill-I'm a tradesman/single father with three children, that is stuck in the Bay Area that can't wait to get the fuck back to Nevada. "

All with you. Get outta there.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 12:43 PM (bceFx)

1206 So it's eternal war for eternal peace.

War has been a normal condition of human existence since Cain and Abel, and lasting peace has yet to be achieved. WWII didn't bring peace, after all, just a change in enemies....Anyone who thinks that we should just be able to go in, smash a bunch of stuff, and then leave having solved the problem permanently is chasing a dream.

The notion that people will be good if we leave them alone or achieve some desired structure is something I usually associate with the Left, not the Right. I'm not sure why people can't see that the basic conservative understanding of human behavior pretty much guarantees that foreign conflict will be necessary on a regular basis.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 12:44 PM (bZ7mE)

1207 But I saw an asian girl the other day walking down the street with a face mask on like she was in Beijing. Salem gets some pollution but overall its really clean and fresh here, particularly that day. I didn't get it. Is the habit so ingrained they just do it everywhere?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)


It's a courtesy thing, so as not to spread the cold she has.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 12:50 PM (2rmvw)

1208 1199 - Posted by: hari kari at March 12, 2016 12:34 PM (qQk+U)

Someone's address ?

Posted by: cind at March 12, 2016 12:56 PM (nRbbW)

1209 "Mr. Trump and the Republican leaders who support him and his
hate-filled rhetoric should be on notice after tonight's events," on the
George Soros funded MoveOn web page. "To all of those who took to the
streets of Chicago, we say thank you for standing up and saying enough
is enough. To Donald Trump, and the GOP, we say, welcome to the general
election."

Peachy.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2016 12:19 PM (NOIQH)



This is why Insty has the right solution:


Trump should sue MoveOn for conspiracy to deny his civil rights to assembly, free speech.

Discovery would be devastating...esp. to Soros personally because he funds them and the Democrat Party because they also back them.

Ayers appeared to plant himself right in lawsuit territory as well.


If Trump wants to win the election and win big, this is exactly the sort of punching back he should do.

Start hurting the Dims in the pocketbook and watch how fast this nonsense stops.


YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 12, 2016 01:00 PM (2rmvw)

1210 Timely ideas ! BTW , if anyone requires a IRS 1099-PATR , my company saw a fillable form here or www.irs.gov.

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