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Overnight Open Thredd (2-29-2016) – Double Dose of Pimpin’ Edition

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And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!

-- Not Sure

'Idiocracy' Screenwriter: I Never Expected My Movie 'To Become a Documentary'

Well none of us did. At least not in our lifetimes. So anyway I'm now shifting my investments into Costco and various electrolyte-based beverages.

idiocracydoc37

What Kind of Monsters Would Name Their Son Stacy And Other Tales From the RSM Saga

Bookworm on Marginal Tax Rates and the Value of Work

Finally, a comment on the cost of big government and human productivity. My husband, bless his heart, earns a nice living, for which I am grateful every minute of every day. As for me, because I followed the traditional female path of dropping out of the job market in order to raise my family, my work doesn't sell for a very high price. Nevertheless, because I'm good at what I do, when my clients need a hand, they still call on me. I accept the work, not because I want to do it or because I need to do (thank you, Mr. Bookworm!), but because my clients are also my friends and they've asked for my help.

Last year, I helped a client take two cases to trial between January and the end of June. I worked 40-50 hour weeks while still caring for my household (including three teens) and my mother. During that half year, I ended up earning less than a fifth of what my husband earned for an entire year of work (with his hours ranging from 20-60 hours per week. and with 100% of his energy devoted to work, because I took care of everything else).

Because of my husband, my earnings were taxed in a higher bracket than they would have been otherwise. I also had to pay around 14% in social security taxes. The net result was that my accountant said "You shouldn't bother working. It's not worth it for you, personally, to expend the effort in order to have only about $10,000 left untouched by the government after six months of work."

One could argue that, because my husband and I together earn a very decent salary, I shouldn't cavil about the fact that our collective wealth is subject to a high tax rate. That's certainly true. But I also value my time. To work 700-800 hours - very hard, stressful hours - for only $10,000 would be a good use of my time only if I desperately needed the money (in which case I would do any moral and legal work, and consider it good). Since I don't need the money (for which I am grateful), I'm not going to work this year if I can help it.

You can applaud or denigrate my personal calculations.  But let me ask you a larger, societal question about the economic decision the tax code drives me toward:  Is it worth it to society if I work?

All College Hate Crimes Are Hoaxes Until Proven Otherwise: Upstate N.Y. students who claimed bias attack now face criminal charges

13 Year-Old Boy Wins Science Competition; All Hell Breaks Loose

Did anyone ask whether the boy self-identifies as a female science contest entrant? No they did not.

When Did NATO Start Thinking It Could Actually Defeat a Warsaw Pact Invasion of Europe?

Let's be utterly clear on this point; from the creation of NATO until the 1970s, Western military planners expected the Warsaw Pact to easily win a conventional war in Europe. Conventional warfighting plans by the major NATO powers often amounted, almost literally, to efforts to reach the English Channel just ahead of the tanks of the Red Army. NATO expected to liberally use tactical nuclear weapons to slow the Soviet advance, an action which would inevitably invite Soviet response (the Soviets also prepared for this dynamic).

The belief that NATO would lose a conventional conflict did nothing to contradict the notion that NATO could play a valuable role in deterring war. For one, NATO could certainly make things more difficult for the Soviet Union; overwhelming combined British-German-American forces would prove far more costly than defeating a West Germany that stood alone. Moreover, by triggering an expansion of the war NATO could create costs for the Soviets in other parts of the world. Overwhelming NATO superiority at sea and in long-range airpower would prove devastating for Soviet interests outside of Eurasia, even if the Soviets prevailed on the Central Front.

Most importantly, the threat that France, Britain and the United States would launch strategic nuclear strikes on the Soviet Union in response to a successful conventional assault was supposed to give Moscow pause. Even if an American President refused to exchange Berlin for New York, the Soviets would have to worry about the rest of NATO's nuclear deterrent.

Then something happened that ultimately convinced NATO that they could actually hold and then defeat invading Soviet forces.

Soviet-Invansion-Routes

The Missing Seinfeld Episode

Built up out of scenes from season 7 of Curb Your Enthusiasm (2009) in which Larry ends up working on a possible Seinfeld reunion.

lostseinfeld12

Ruling in Fields v. City of Philadelphia says no 1st Amendment right to film cops unless you're challenging their behavior

Jonathon Haidt of 'The Coddling of the American Mind' Is Looking For An Assistant

So if you're qualified (or just real good with photoshop, color printers, and BSing), send in your CV.

V. S. Naipaul: Every Writer Has His Own Voice

10 May 1988

Dear Sonny,

The copy-edited text of A Turn in the South came yesterday; it is such an appalling piece of work that I feel I have to write about it. This kind of copy-editing gets in the way of creative reading. I spend so much time restoring the text I wrote (and as a result know rather well). I thought it might have been known in the office that after 34 years and 20 books I knew certain things about writing and didn't want a copy-editor's help with punctuation or the thing called repetition; and certainly didn't want help with ways of getting round repetition. It is utterly absurd to have someone pointing out to me repetitions in the use of "and" or "like" or "that" or "she". I didn't want anyone undoing my semi-colons; with all their different ways of linking.

It happens that English - the history of the language - was my subject at Oxford. It happens that I know very well that these so-called "rules" have nothing to do with the language and are really rules about French usage. The glory of English is that it is without these court rules: it is a language made by the people who write it. My name goes on my book. I am responsible for the way the words are put together. It is one reason why I became a writer.

Every writer has his own voice. (Every serious or dedicated writer.) This is achieved by the way he punctuates; the rhythm of his phrases; the way the writing reflects the processes of the writer's thought: all the nervousness, all the links, all the curious associations. An assiduous copy-editor can undo this very quickly, can make A write like B and Ms C.

And what a waste of spirit it is for the writer, who is in effect re-doing bits of his manuscript all the time instead of giving it a truly creative, revising read. Consider how it has made me sit down this morning, not to my work, but to write this enraged letter.

Yours

Vidia

Wait - There Are Now Dogs Trained to Sniff Out Child Porn?

Well technically the adhesives used in hard drives and thumb drives.

No Faps For You: Whitey Bulger, 85, put in solitary confinement for a month after being caught masturbating in his cell with the lights on

Life as a Muggle IT Guy at Hogwarts

hogwartsitmug2

The Yahoo AoSHQ group - it's got electrolytes and shit.

Tonight's post brought to you by blogging was a steadier gig though:

AosHQ

Notice: Posted by permission of Carl's Jr. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. And by rain I mean cleansing fire and by streets I mean the ONT.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 10:46 PM




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1 Maet, if I could reach you, I would kiss you.

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 10:49 PM (cDs+4)

2 Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. And by rain I mean fire and by streets I mean the ONT.

Promise?

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:49 PM (s5o+q)

3 Just watched idiocracy last night instead of the Oscars... More realistic...

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 10:49 PM (/dSsq)

4 First!

Posted by: RGallegos at February 29, 2016 10:50 PM (49Jfq)

5 Maet, if I could reach you, I would kiss you.

Hold off on that kiss... I'm sure the brawl below will be coming here soon...

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 10:51 PM (/dSsq)

6 Then again....not first!

Posted by: RGallegos at February 29, 2016 10:51 PM (49Jfq)

7 Hold off on that kiss... I'm sure the brawl below will be coming here soon...
Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 10:51 PM (/dSsq)


That's why I wanted to know if the rain of fire was a promise.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:51 PM (s5o+q)

8 Thanks for the ONT!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 10:52 PM (iHjB5)

9 That's why I wanted to know if the rain of fire was a promise.
Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:51 PM (s5o+q)


THE HOLY FIRE WILL KNOW ITS OWN

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 10:52 PM (pAlYe)

10 Hold off on that kiss... I'm sure the brawl below will be coming here soon...

Cruz supporter: "Hey you!! Let's fight!!"
Trump supporter: "Them's fightin' words!!!"

;-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 10:53 PM (ntObR)

11 THE HOLY FIRE WILL KNOW ITS OWN
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 10:52 PM (pAlYe)


Fair enough.

Who brought the cheese dip?

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:53 PM (s5o+q)

12 Hey everybody.

Well, looks like SMOD is already here. It's called Trump v. Cruz.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 10:53 PM (ntObR)

13 11 THE HOLY FIRE WILL KNOW ITS OWN
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 10:52 PM (pAlYe)

Fair enough.

Who brought the cheese dip?

And the S'mores....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (/dSsq)

14 11 THE HOLY FIRE WILL KNOW ITS OWN
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 10:52 PM (pAlYe)

Fair enough.

Who brought the cheese dip?

And the S'mores....
Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (/dSsq)

And maybe some wine...???

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (cDs+4)

15 If anyone ever played Dying Light, I recently got the "The Following" expansion. Not too bad. A rather big change in setting from the base game. The addition of bows and crossbows, so projectiles are not completely insane to use. Coincidentally, the story is about a cult-like bunch of people, following a leader to the promised land. *sigh*

Worth the money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (iHjB5)

16 Mmmmmm, cheese dip!!

Posted by: SMOD at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)

17 'ron's, grab a folding chair.

'ette's - stand by to egg the boys on....

ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dyin' time is here.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 29, 2016 10:55 PM (/33sy)

18 This is such good stuff. Thank you, Maet.

Posted by: t-bird at February 29, 2016 10:56 PM (ZxmMG)

19 Don't tell the others. Leave them downstairs with HotAir rejects fighting about Cruz and birthright citizenship

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 10:56 PM (2x3L+)

20 Mmmmmm, cheese dip!!
Posted by: SMOD at February 29, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)


It'll be queso, I hope that's okay.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:56 PM (s5o+q)

21 So, wait, prison rape is often turned a blind eye to by the guards, and yet a man cannot even enjoy some alone time?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 10:56 PM (iHjB5)

22 The winner's idea was for a games controller which harnesses kinetic energy from thumb action using wind-up triggers.

I really don't understand those words.

This is a problem that has been getting worse since San Bernardino. Maybe I've had a stroke, but all too often the words I read on the internet make no sense to me.

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter at February 29, 2016 10:57 PM (FrHFf)

23 **Top 5 Things That Will Happen Before the GOP is United Again**

5. Chris Rock will discover a race joke too tasteless to tell

4. Hollywood will discovery the virtue of modesty

3. Maetenloch will share here his 10 favorite Pat Boone ditties

2. Chris Christie will finally find a diet that works

1. Bill Clinton will say "no" to an intern

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (ntObR)

24 It's a good night for a hanging.

Nice ONT.

Posted by: ALH at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (Z56vq)

25 Ohmigawd the Whitey Bulger thing...my mind's eye can. not. unsee...

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (cDs+4)

26 My willowed comment from earlier:

It just hit me.

You know the story (MPPPP has recited it) of the
wrap-up party after the filming of "Bye-Bye Birdie" Everyone is talking
about how wonderful Ann-Margret is and blah, blah blah. Finally, Shirley
Winters gets up and says that Ann-Margret is nice, but she is the only
one there that doesn't want to fuck her.

Everyone at Fox News wants to fuck Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (1ijHg)

27 Don't dogs sniff out each other's porn on a fairly continuous basis?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (McRlu)

28 Hello....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (u8kqM)

29 beep

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (e7T6D)

30 So, wait, prison rape is often turned a blind eye to by the guards, and yet a man cannot even enjoy some alone time?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 10:56 PM (iHjB5)


For me, the takeaway is that the dude's 85 and still able to, er, entertain himself.

Probably doesn't even have a thumb drive.

Um. Ah. Never mind.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:59 PM (s5o+q)

31 Everyone at Fox News wants to fuck Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 10:58 PM (1ijHg)


I understand from unreputable sources that you can hear people muttering that all over the building: "Fuck that Megyn Kelly anyway!"

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 11:00 PM (s5o+q)

32 No 1st amendment right to video record police officers?

Well then, that side bar article about people stalking strangers to video their activities is assault, right?

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter at February 29, 2016 11:00 PM (FrHFf)

33 "What Kind of Monsters Would Name Their Son Stacy And Other Tales From the RSM Saga"

What kind of monsters would name their daughter "Bruce"?

(yeah, mom, I'm lookin' at you)

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 29, 2016 11:00 PM (xUkfn)

34 Who brought the cheese dip?

And the S'mores....



When did S'mores become a thing?

Like, I don't remember them from my childhood. Also, I never saw A Christmas Story.

Then all of a sudden one day they were both part of everyone's memory.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (1xUj/)

35 For me, the takeaway is that the dude's 85 and still able to, er, entertain himself.

Probably doesn't even have a thumb drive.

Um. Ah. Never mind.
Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 10:59 PM (s5o+q)

And they put him in solitary for, um, pattin' his poodle?
Solitary. Where nobody can see you fap.
Perfect.

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (cDs+4)

36 I actually think "Stacy" is an okay guy name. More women with them but still okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (u8kqM)

37 I plan to invest in companies doing research on curing baldness and erectile dysfunction.

Posted by: The Barrel at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

38 Then something happened that ultimately convinced NATO that they could actually hold and then defeat invading Soviet forces.

What happened? Tom Clancy happened? What?

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (FrHFf)

39 Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Longhorns.

Posted by: The Jayhawks at February 29, 2016 11:01 PM (s5o+q)

40 hi

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (R5HRU)

41 ONT woot woot

Hopefully bullshit free

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (voOPb)

42 "What Kind of Monsters Would Name Their Son Stacy And Other Tales From the RSM Saga"

There's actually a famous male macho actor with a moustache named Stacy Keach, so it is a legitimate male name.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (xUkfn)

43 Hey Bander, you still here?
If so, were you the one that dated and strippers once when I was talking about my my most recent problem? Was that you?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:03 PM (2x3L+)

44 ONT woot woot

Hopefully bullshit free
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (voOPb)


Not entirely, but the Pillar of Righteous Fire hangs over us, Sword of Damocles-like.

Rather comforting, in a terrifying sort of way.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 11:03 PM (s5o+q)

45 ONT woot woot

Hopefully bullshit free
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (voOPb)

At least as long as the rest of the crowd stays below and pummels each other into dust.

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:03 PM (cDs+4)

46 41 ONT woot woot

Hopefully bullshit free
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (voOPb)

People will be people. Hence, bullshit will be had.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:03 PM (iHjB5)

47 And they put him in solitary for, um, pattin' his poodle?
Solitary. Where nobody can see you fap.
Perfect.

Posted by: antisocialist
****

Would YOU want to see that? Yuck!

Posted by: Prison Guard at February 29, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)

48 34
No S'mores? Didn't you go camping or to a summer camp? No beach bonfires? I'm just sad for you now.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:04 PM (egOGm)

49 one ping... one ping only

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (e7T6D)

50 I had smores once. I did not like them, but then I have never liked marshmallow. The chocolate was good though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (iHjB5)

51 Those people downstairs REALLY need to keep it down. Jeez.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (hVdx9)

52 There's a lotta bitch-typin' that went on down below.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (+1T7c)

53 49 one ping... one ping only
Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (e7T6D)

I give us... one chance in three. *smacks*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (iHjB5)

54 Is this the way things look in the previous thread?

http://tinyurl.com/lzff2pz

I'm afraid to check.

Posted by: huerfano at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (NSb9d)

55 Crazy Ivan.

Posted by: ALH at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (Z56vq)

56 I actually think "Stacy" is an okay guy name. More women with them but still okay.

Dumb joke I like to tell:

A little league coach is getting his boys' team together and at their first practice when a bureaucrat from the city comes over and demands to see the entire team roster in order to use the public field.

The coach doesn't have everyone signed up yet so he just wings it with famous player names, figuring the b-crat is too dumb to know the difference.

So the b-crat is reading the names. "Let's see... Jackie Robinson... Babe Ruth... Sandy Koufax... hey, WAIT A MINUTE!!"

Coach figures, uh oh, I've been caught. So he walks up to the city functionary. "Yeah, what??"

Said b-crat responds, "these are GIRL'S names!!"

/rimshot

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (ntObR)

57 Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. And by rain I mean cleansing fire and by streets I mean the ONT.

I kinda like the ONT just the way it is.

Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (3eoPa)

58 Hey all!

Better Call Saul did not have any hilarious moments tonight, but all the storylines took more shape, including Mike upping his . . . services.


Oh, and since it wasn't mentioned in the post, R.I.P. George Kennedy.

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (i0qcw)

59 I had smores once. I did not like them, but then I have never liked marshmallow. The chocolate was good though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (iHjB5)

Think of the marshmallows as a vehicle for getting more ooey gooey chocolate into your mouth. They're not quite as revolting that way.

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (cDs+4)

60 S'mores are kind of good as long as you eat just one. Then they become disgusting.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:07 PM (2x3L+)

61 I'm afraid to check.
Posted by: huerfano at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (NSb9d)


Worse.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 11:07 PM (s5o+q)

62 Homemade marshmallows are delicious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:07 PM (egOGm)

63 My brother was a big fan of Gene Shepherd, in the early 70;s.

Then one day boom! a Christmas Story.

Next thing you know, there is "A Christmas Story" effing marathon on TBS.

They foisted this shit on us. They foisted "A Charlie Brown Christmas" on us.

Now they think that they can foist Mario Rubio on us.

The republic is dead.

btw, it was nice to read about Justice Thomas asking the questions that Scalia wasn't there to ask.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 11:07 PM (1ijHg)

64 What did I miss in the prior thread? A lot of flaming?

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:08 PM (i0qcw)

65 "Those people downstairs REALLY need to keep it down."


It'll make you sick at your stomach. I sit and watch and I'm just beyond commenting. Who's for what makes little difference.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:08 PM (u8kqM)

66 Jimbo, "A Charlie Brown Christmas" is actually GOOD.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:08 PM (ntObR)

67 59 I had smores once. I did not like them, but then I have never liked marshmallow. The chocolate was good though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:05 PM (iHjB5)

Think of the marshmallows as a vehicle for getting more ooey gooey chocolate into your mouth. They're not quite as revolting that way.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:06 PM (cDs+4)

Lol. For some reason, that did not make it more appetizing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:08 PM (iHjB5)

68 S'mores are kind of good as long as you eat just one. Then they become disgusting.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:07 PM (2x3L+)

Unless you're my oldest two grandsons. And their grandpa. A whole bag of marshmallows in one sitting.
Now THAT was disgusting.

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (cDs+4)

69 hi


Posted by: thathalfrican


WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT??



And hi.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (+1T7c)

70 Whew! No Yoko!

Posted by: sinalco at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (yODqO)

71 64 What did I miss in the prior thread? A lot of flaming?
Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:08 PM (i0qcw)

No real flaming. Just a rhetorical merry-go-round.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (iHjB5)

72 No Faps For You: Whitey Bulger, 85, put in solitary confinement for a month after being caught masturbating in his cell with the lights on

How exactly does this work?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (rwI+c)

73 Hey Bander, you still here?
If so, were you the one that dated and strippers once when I was talking about my my most recent problem? Was that you?



Hiiiiiii.

I am still here. I haven't dated strippers except for the one I had sex with once.

My email is in the nick. I do have several years experience dating a girl who married your problem. Feel free to write.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (1xUj/)

74 So in the Cruz v. Trump thread, any actual duels been set up yet??

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

75 65 Ricardo,
I want no part of that action.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (egOGm)

76 What's wrong with a Charlie Brown Christmas? My favorite part is when Linus recites that passage from the Bible about the birth of the baby Jesus. I'm shocked they still play it every year and include that scene.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (2x3L+)

77
The winner's idea was for a games controller which harnesses kinetic energy from thumb action using wind-up triggers.









Seems obvious that the kid came up with something that has potential for applications more important than the game controller he developed. Just based on that single sentence description, I can imagine industrial, medical and military applications.

Can you imagine the same about "smart curtains"????

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (o98Jz)

78 Sandy wouldn't pitch on Saturdays.

"Honor me and I will honor you."

The atheists have taken over.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (1ijHg)

79 L Elle, exactamundo.

Schulz had balls of steel to demand CBS keep it in the show.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

80 What did I miss in the prior thread? A lot of flaming?


Posted by: logprof


Trolls trolling, a lot of angry self-righteousness, some stupid mixed in.

In other words, much like a day ending in "y" here.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at February 29, 2016 11:11 PM (+1T7c)

81 68 antisocialist,
The idea of that many marshmallows make me feel ill.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:11 PM (egOGm)

82 "What did I miss in the prior thread? A lot of flaming?"


Nothing. Yes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:11 PM (u8kqM)

83 'sup morons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:11 PM (on01m)

84 74 So in the Cruz v. Trump thread, any actual duels been set up yet??
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

No, it might actually improve the debate. By subtraction, if nothing else.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (iHjB5)

85 So much flaming in the previous thread, RuPaul showed up to officiate.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (ntObR)

86 "And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"


Actually, the only time I care about asses and farting is when I'm reading works written by fags!

Posted by: Denny Hastur at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (xUkfn)

87 Maybe Thomas was quiet for so long because Scalia asked the questions he would have?
CT's questions seemed pretty solid to me.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (hVdx9)

88 Because #SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367184693297152

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367319645032448

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367464088510464

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367631147659264

Posted by: kbdabear at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (Es6LZ)

89 68 antisocialist,
The idea of that many marshmallows make me feel ill.
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:11 PM (egOGm)

Yeah. But when you're 10 years old...nope, nope, still makes me feel nauseous...

Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 11:12 PM (cDs+4)

90 It's a cold night for alligators.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 11:13 PM (FkBIv)

91 The idea of that many marshmallows make me feel ill.


Posted by: CaliGirl

Well, at least that is out of your mind, in terms of choosing the form of the Destructor.

Posted by: Zuul! at February 29, 2016 11:13 PM (+1T7c)

92 79 L Elle, exactamundo.

Schulz had balls of steel to demand CBS keep it in the show.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

--The network also originally didn't like the show for other reasons. First, the message was anti-consumeristic. They also didn't like that real children voiced the characters. They didn't think the jazz soundtrack would fly, either.

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:13 PM (ci2FH)

93 Maet if I coul reach your a bottle of booze we would be in one hand and a $100 bill in the other. I would expect nothing in return, after meeting you is on my Bucket list. You, ace, j?.
Brandon, Charlie a be,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:14 PM (voOPb)

94 72 No Faps For You: Whitey Bulger, 85, put in solitary confinement for a month after being caught masturbating in his cell with the lights on

How exactly does this work?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 11:09 PM (rwI+c)



The Br'er Rabbit gambit.

Posted by: buzzion at February 29, 2016 11:14 PM (zt+N6)

95 logprof, yup. Schulz had real guts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:14 PM (ntObR)

96 Because #SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics - 2

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367778019590148

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704367973188902912

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704368140923179008

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704368279587065856

Posted by: kbdabear at February 29, 2016 11:14 PM (Es6LZ)

97 There are no black people on that comic book cover.

Out of curiosity, is that a photoshop, or an original work with an intentional retro feel to it?

Posted by: Chris Rock at February 29, 2016 11:14 PM (xUkfn)

98 91
I am not thinking of the stay puft man at all.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:15 PM (egOGm)

99 "I want no part of that action."



Neither do I. You can only flame, troll, recite worn-out pablum, electioneer, and, repeat campaign talking points so far.


Just stop.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:15 PM (u8kqM)

100 Because #SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics - 3

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704368429785071616

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704368587977461760

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/704368723277254658

Posted by: kbdabear at February 29, 2016 11:16 PM (Es6LZ)

101 I am not thinking of the stay puft man at all.

Posted by: CaliGirl
****

Oh crap. I was thinking of how to destroy the SPMM and Roseanne Barr came to mind.
Sorry folks. My bad.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:16 PM (hVdx9)

102 I am not thinking of the stay puft man at all.
Posted by: CaliGirl


Now you are.

Posted by: Zuul! at February 29, 2016 11:16 PM (+1T7c)

103 >>>Maet, if I could reach you, I would kiss you.



Posted by: antisocialist at February 29, 2016 10:49 PM (cDs+4)<<<

I want to kiss you too. **hic**

Posted by: Joe Namath at February 29, 2016 11:16 PM (H9MG5)

104 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 29, 2016 11:17 PM (YJmuy)

105 RIP George Kennedy

https://t.co/L4r1MkUm1Q

Posted by: kbdabear at February 29, 2016 11:17 PM (Es6LZ)

106 So, about marshmallows.

I did grow up in a roasting marshmallows if not s'mores environment. And roasting marshmallows was serious business.

I was taught to brown the outside until it was a golden crust, peel it off and eat it, then brown the next layer. You could get 7 or 8 layers of marshmallow if you were really good at it.

I tried to teach the same thing to my kids. It doesn't work any more. You get 2 or 3 layers, tops. I read the ingredients. It's because corn syrup and not sugar.

I blame Iowa and Big Corn for destroying the American way of life.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 29, 2016 11:17 PM (1xUj/)

107 "I am not thinking of the stay puft man at all."


Would a giant Cher work better? Maybe an Alf?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:17 PM (u8kqM)

108 Hi,
I dropped in to thank every single one of you that offered prayers the last three plus months for my friend Gayle.
I have a list of you in one post only & I won't ruin your ONT fun with it.

As far as I'm concerned Gayle has gone home to God. She reunited with her beloved eldest grandson.

Thank you, again.

Posted by: Carol at February 29, 2016 11:18 PM (sj3Ax)

109 Msrshmeoolowamaeem

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:18 PM (voOPb)

110 Glad I read Ace's commentary on the thread below and wisely decided not to comment or read any of the comments. Does not take a genius to realize it was going to deteriorate rapidly. Anyways, just read a sad story about a young mom who is dying of cancer and her saying goodbye one last time to her two year old daughter. Stories like these always make me cry and puts everything in perspective.
Life, for me at least is way too short to be spent getting angry over politics and politicians.

Posted by: IC at February 29, 2016 11:18 PM (zK6nG)

111 I can imagine industrial, medical and military applications.

--

would you care to share one of your imaginings?

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter at February 29, 2016 11:18 PM (FrHFf)

112 I liked Charlie Brown Christmas program. I watched it every year. I also loved the grinch. I liked the dog. And the song.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:18 PM (egOGm)

113
I blame Iowa and Big Corn for destroying the American way of life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch


Are there Mexican marshmallows?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 11:19 PM (FkBIv)

114 Hey Bander, you still here?
If so, were you the one that dated and strippers once when I was talking about my my most recent problem? Was that you?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:03 PM (2x3L+)

This sounds like TWO subjects I need to get caught up on.

Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:19 PM (3eoPa)

115 for as exhausting the political winds are right now... you know.. it's only going to get worse. and then... no respite.

For all the 'what if's' one certainty. From election day until move-out day, our Child-man President is going to pull some shit like we cannot even imagine.

Think back to what Billy Jeff did on his way out. I'd say November to March 1st would be a great time to unplug, read books, do anything but witness the wretched end.

My brother called me tonight and said he was going to throw a move-out party for the JEF and hire a mariachi band. Heh. I thought that was a pretty descent idea.

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 11:20 PM (e7T6D)

116 Force Whitey Bulger to transition to Whitney Bulger. Problem solved. Men are so gross, is there any man who actually wants to be a man? Or are they merely hampered by a lack of imagination and self awareness?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 29, 2016 11:20 PM (xUkfn)

117 As I recall, Schultz didn't like the jazz soundtrack either.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 29, 2016 11:20 PM (FQKBL)

118 Carol,
Again, Gayle's family and you are in my prayers.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:20 PM (egOGm)

119
*thinks of 'Dragline' character in Coolhand Luke*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:21 PM (oFSUK)

120 >>> This sounds like TWO subjects I need to get caught up on.
Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:19 PM
----
No, you really don't. It's what you call Boring. Just stupid Trump male slut rumors and Rubio knocking up a stripper rumor.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:21 PM (2x3L+)

121 Barb, not sure. Bill Melendez might have talked him into it.

Alls I knows is, Vince Guaraldi was a genius and a great musician who died way too soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:22 PM (ntObR)

122 I posted this yesterday but it was late in the Book thread...in case anyone is interested, some episodes of William Buckley, Jr.'s "Firing Line" is available to view on Amazon (free for Prime members). Several good episodes on his defending Conservatism are in the group. It's nice to see someone articulate these principles since so few in Washington seem able (or willing) to do so.

Posted by: dwinnorcal at February 29, 2016 11:22 PM (3OTR8)

123 The Three-Dollar Bill Fashion Police apparently ripped Megyn a new one for her hairdo at the Oscars. Just awful, they thought. What's she doing going there anyway? Shows it's more celebrity than anything serious.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 29, 2016 11:22 PM (dvuhZ)

124 The idea of that many marshmallows make me feel ill.


Posted by: CaliGirl
****

Are the marshmallows still screaming CaliGirl?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:22 PM (hVdx9)

125 "As far as I'm concerned Gayle has gone home to God. She reunited with her beloved eldest grandson. "



Well, Carol, she's in a better place and she's not hurting anymore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:23 PM (u8kqM)

126 115
Yip, so you are saying that Obama is going to steal the furniture on his way out? After all the crooked pardons.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:23 PM (egOGm)

127 I don't know if we even want the furniture to stay in the WH. Just think what he and Reggie have been doing on it, and what sort of stains they left on it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 29, 2016 11:25 PM (dvuhZ)

128 These marshmallows are making me sticky.

Posted by: lines from the lost Seinfeld episode at February 29, 2016 11:25 PM (AoL85)

129 CaliGirl, O!'ll stick an ottoman in his pants and just tell the Secret Service agent he's glad to see him. ;-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:25 PM (ntObR)

130 127
I need brain bleach. I am really wishing for the stay puft man now.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:27 PM (egOGm)

131 There has been some hyperbole in threads here. Someone said that the fervor of Trump followers was even worse than the Obots. Talk about a short memory. Has anyone ever fainted at a Trump rally?

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:27 PM (ci2FH)

132 Also, Michelle could probably stick an entire credenza in her pants seat and no one would notice.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:27 PM (ntObR)

133 Funny how big Pharma is kicking my ass tonight,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:27 PM (voOPb)

134 " These marshmallows are making me sticky.
Posted by: lines from the lost Seinfeld episode at"


That's pretty good. Anybody wanna step forward and take credit?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:27 PM (u8kqM)

135 Steve,
I'm sure he's already tried that "joke".

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM (egOGm)

136 Oh, so sorry to hear about Gayle.
Carol, at least she feels no pain or suffering anymore and has found peace that way. I'm so glad that she had such a good friend as you by her side until the end. You must have given her great comfort.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM (2x3L+)

137 Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??

Have I been gone that long?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM (EVl8U)

138 "Funny how big Pharma is kicking my ass tonight,"


What you take tonight?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:29 PM (u8kqM)

139 No, you really don't. It's what you call Boring. Just stupid Trump male slut rumors and Rubio knocking up a stripper rumor.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:21 PM (2x3L+)

Whatever your issue is/was, I hope you can get past it ok. You sound great.

Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:29 PM (3eoPa)

140 Nite all. Taking the doggehs out fur the last time,

Be well.

T

Posted by: Farmer at February 29, 2016 11:29 PM (o/90i)

141 137 Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??

Have I been gone that long?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM (EVl8U)


--Is petunia there?

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:29 PM (ci2FH)

142 Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??

Have I been gone that long?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
****

Last thing I heard was:
Piss on you, I work for Mel Brooks!
It was pandemonium from there.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:30 PM (hVdx9)

143 Miss Tammy's here!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 29, 2016 11:30 PM (YJmuy)

144 I'm going to watch better call Saul and I'm outta here. Goodnight everyone.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 29, 2016 11:30 PM (egOGm)

145 CaliGirl & Ricardo,
Thank you.
At this point with R & D Leaders & likely one next president, it is looking like a much better place.

I'm watching Johnny Carson reruns that started on January 1. Tonight it's one from 1981 with Suzanne Pleshette & Dick Cavett.
I can't believe that 30-40 + years older he's still LOL funny.
One was from 1973 in past week.

Here it's Antenna TV on Comcast cable.
Good Night.

Posted by: Carol at February 29, 2016 11:30 PM (sj3Ax)

146 would you care to share one of your imaginings?

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter
---------------

M57.
Claymore clacker.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:31 PM (oFSUK)

147 Hammer

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:31 PM (on01m)

148 [looks at hands and screams]

SCREAMS

[looks at hands again]

SCREAMS EVEN LOUDER

No one suspects...until it is TOO LATE.

This film has not yet been rated.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (AroJD)

149 >>> Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??
Have I been gone that long?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM
----
Hi Tammy! Yeah, you have been gone for a while I guess.
HotAir turned all their comments over to FB and their refular commenters went bananapants crazy. So AoS got all their refugees. That's who seems to be occupying the basement.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (2x3L+)

150 Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??

Have I been gone that long?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
--------------

Hot Air refugees and election cycle trolls

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (oFSUK)

151 120 >>> This sounds like TWO subjects I need to get caught up on.
Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:19 PM
----
No, you really don't. It's what you call Boring. Just stupid Trump male slut rumors and Rubio knocking up a stripper rumor.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:21 PM (2x3L+)
Trump slut ro ours were true and Rubio did Knox up,that stripper after having the old vasectomies

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (voOPb)

152 jesus christ the adware scripts keep making my screen fre

Posted by: Jeanne del norte at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (gkJIe)

153 Wow, amazing I avoided the barrel, considering all them beers. --I should post this in the happy thread!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 29, 2016 11:33 PM (AroJD)

154 137
Who the fuck are all the assholes down below??



Have I been gone that long?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:28 PM (EVl8U)


Just another f'n refugee crisis. Hot Air went to Facebook posting, so we got inundated with yahoos.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 29, 2016 11:33 PM (HalrA)

155 TR

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:33 PM (oFSUK)

156 I'll be damned. They were Johnny Carson reruns on some station in the endless cable lineup that I stumbled on. It was one in the early 70s during Watergate.

God, I miss Johnny. And I was laughing at those Nixon jokes just like it was real. I was about 5 or 6 during all that. No direct memory do I have.

It just puts in stark contrast how far the culture has fallen to see Johnny in his heyday.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 29, 2016 11:33 PM (dvuhZ)

157 >>>btw, it was nice to read about Justice Thomas asking the questions that Scalia wasn't there to ask.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo

yeah, he's the best.
i really liked "My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir"
he was raised right.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 29, 2016 11:34 PM (0KgAM)

158 Ah, a perfect Salon article to show our descent into total decadence.

"Ass is the new p*ssy".

http://tinyurl.com/gof7qg5

On a serious note...eww. The former doesn't clean itself like the latter.

Posted by: Thrawn at February 29, 2016 11:34 PM (s87AC)

159 Hi Tammy! Yeah, you have been gone for a while I guess.
HotAir turned all their comments over to FB and their refular commenters went bananapants crazy. So AoS got all their refugees. That's who seems to be occupying the basement.

Posted by: L, Elle
****

We got these three guys, all with the last name of Hanson. It's been crazy since we turned them loose.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:34 PM (hVdx9)

160 "CaliGirl & Ricardo,
Thank you. "



I hope you're not worrying about her, Carol. Husband and daughter have to adjust but it happens. Life being what it is. They'll do it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:34 PM (u8kqM)

161 Thanks Blano. It's not MY issue. Bander has stuff he wants to talk about is all. Thanks for being so understanding about his situation.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:34 PM (2x3L+)

162 Dang Maet! You sure do know how to save us from our sorry selves! Of course, I'll post about something other than your wonderful content!

Last fall, we smoked some jalaps and poblanos fresh off the plants and made a queso with american cheese, milk, sauteed onion and garlic. It was awesome, especially when we pulled some from the freezer in January. Not republic saving, but quite tasty.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 29, 2016 11:35 PM (GzDYP)

163 Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:32 PM (2x3L+)


God help us. It's only March, ffs.

Perhaps they'll all be banned by the June primaries?


Carol, I'm so sorry for your loss. Gayle is in pure bliss now, and her last days here were sweetened by your kindness and love.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:35 PM (EVl8U)

164 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:33 PM (oFSUK)
-----------------------

A friend of mine got married tonight in Candler. I thought it was going to be a true southern Hillbilly wedding, but there was no gunplay, and no one was punched in the jaw.

Dammit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:36 PM (on01m)

165 I liked this ONT. Variety of interesting topics is commendable work. I give it a 10 out of 10.

Posted by: CozMark at February 29, 2016 11:37 PM (CbGSW)

166 A friend of mine got married tonight in Candler. I thought it was going to be a true southern Hillbilly wedding, but there was no gunplay, and no one was punched in the jaw.

Dammit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road
****

Sometimes you have to help the festivities get started.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:37 PM (hVdx9)

167 All right, I'm fading early.


Have a good night, y'all, and vote wisely tomorrow if you're in a Super Tuesday state.

Posted by: logprof at February 29, 2016 11:37 PM (i0qcw)

168 Evening horde.

Pissy thread or happy thread?


*scrolls up

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:37 PM (hlMPp)

169 Evening morons.

Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (SlFyt)

170 Evening horde.

Pissy thread or happy thread?


*scrolls up

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
****

Don't look down at the thread below or your face will melt off.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (hVdx9)

171 Man primary season is ugly.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (R5HRU)

172 "I liked this ONT. Variety of interesting topics is commendable work. I give it a 10 out of 10."


Yo mamma.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (u8kqM)

173 "V. S. Naipaul: Every Writer Has His Own Voice"

Who needs their own "voice" as long as you come with your own pre-installed modules?

Posted by: Marco9000 at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (xUkfn)

174 A friend of mine got married tonight in Candler. I thought it was going to be a true southern Hillbilly wedding, but there was no gunplay, and no one was punched in the jaw.

Dammit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road



Didn't stay for the after party, did ya?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:39 PM (EVl8U)

175 >>>>> Pissy thread or happy thread?
-----
Pissy thread is downstairs. This is the happy thread until the basement dwellers realize there is an upstairs.
Hi RWC!

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:39 PM (2x3L+)

176 Have a good night, y'all, and vote wisely tomorrow if you're in a Super Tuesday state.

*scratches head*

There's no Wisely on my ballot.

Posted by: LIV at February 29, 2016 11:39 PM (AoL85)

177 Good news! My hordeolum is gone. Bathe your eyes regularly folks.

Posted by: CozMark at February 29, 2016 11:39 PM (CbGSW)

178 Might be a bit early for this question, but I'm thinking over some things my little brother, Psycho Basura, talked to me about yesterday.

So, for those who know, CISSP, worth it or worthless?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (YJmuy)

179 Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (R5HRU)


Hey, how's thangs?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (EVl8U)

180 A friend of mine got married tonight in Candler.
---------------

WTH?

Should'a let me know you were in the area.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (oFSUK)

181 171
Man primary season is ugly.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (R5HRU)


It's too damn long, and they start earlier every election cycle. It's going to get to the point where the presidential cycle never stops if we don't put our foot down.

And whose bright idea was it to always let the Corn Whores go first every time, anyway? Fuck Iowa in particular. HFCS and Ethanol suck.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (HalrA)

182 "Man primary season is ugly."

It'll calm down a little after tomorrow. For a while. Then it get's all real again.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:41 PM (u8kqM)

183 >>>Man primary season is ugly.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (R5HRU)<<<

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: zombie Teh Fred at February 29, 2016 11:41 PM (H9MG5)

184 "V. S. Naipaul: Every Writer Has His Own Voice"

And as long as they're funny, I also have their own voice. That's the beauty of collectivism.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (xUkfn)

185 "Pissy thread or happy thread?


*scrolls up"



You're so dumb.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (u8kqM)

186 After tomorrow I'm taking the rest of the primary season off. In November, I'm either voting for Cruz or Gary Johnson.

Posted by: CozMark at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (CbGSW)

187 Reading through that article more...yep, only people who hate teh gays and women don't want a tongue near their rectums. Thanks for that hot take, Salon.

Posted by: Thrawn at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (s87AC)

188 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (EVl8U)
After a bumpy beginning all things are moving well now.

You?

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (R5HRU)

189 Evening my wonderful fellow Morons.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (UnJ7w)

190 WTH?

Should'a let me know you were in the area.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
----------------------
I wasn't there. Followed it on the gun forum. i would have gone, but #1 son is having surgery in 36 hours. He'll be okay, but is anxious and I needed to be here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (on01m)

191 Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 29, 2016 11:40 PM (YJmuy)

You are so funny! Such epic names you come up with!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (EVl8U)

192 Hugs Carol.

Life seems so unfair sometimes. You and Gayle were blessed to find one another as such good friends.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (GzDYP)

193 RK is drunk and looking for a flame war I guess.

Posted by: CozMark at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (CbGSW)

194 first
!!!!

Posted by: jake at February 29, 2016 11:44 PM (Onoqd)

195 I wasn't there. Followed it on the gun forum. i would have gone, but #1 son is having surgery in 36 hours. He'll be okay, but is anxious and I needed to be here.
Posted by: Tobacco Road
----------------

This is a chronic thing that has been going on for a while, no? Back problem?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 29, 2016 11:44 PM (oFSUK)

196 "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. "



And you are exactly right.

A little pain.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:44 PM (u8kqM)

197 186
I agree. I'm already disgusted with this election. Let's get on with this already.

Thinking Happy Fun Ball thoughts.

Hey Tammy!

Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:45 PM (SlFyt)

198 Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (R5HRU)


Better now. Did my best to up and die, but as per my usual, I recuperated well.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (EVl8U)

199 "RK is drunk and looking for a flame war I guess."



Wut?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (u8kqM)

200 >looking for a flame war I guess.

I will give a pharmacutials war To the hoser, eh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (voOPb)

201 mpfs!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (EVl8U)

202 TR !!

Posted by: jake at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (Onoqd)

203 >>> RK is drunk and looking for a flame war I guess
-----
RK isn't drunk. He's a Baptist and doesn't go near the devil's evil liquid potion.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (2x3L+)

204 Howdy, y'all.

Enjoyed the happiness thread today.

Back to grumpy now?



(Rolling up to see what tickled Maetenloch's fancy tonight.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - inexplicably happy at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (5a8XA)

205 >>>Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016

yes, you have been gone far too long.
the ont needs you.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (0KgAM)

206 Hey Jake. How them little jakes?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:47 PM (on01m)

207 Hey, let's all go for lobsterfest tomorrow! Who's in?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (GzDYP)

208
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (EVl8U)

What was going on with you? I've been out of the loop, waking up at 6:40 for the job will do that to ya

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (R5HRU)

209 Dang it, got a horrible craving for salsa and eggs.

I may just go ahead and run off to the store...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (ntObR)

210 Posted by: concrete girl at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (0KgAM)

What a lovely thing to say, thank you!

How have you been?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (EVl8U)

211 Reading through that article more...
Posted by: Thrawn


Better you than me.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (FkBIv)

212 From my FaceBook post.

Re: The Night Before Super Tuesday

I'll be voting tomorrow. My vote is my own but I must admit...I'm so disappointed at what could have been. I'm not interested in the size of hands, sweat, or the mob. Supposedly there's a strong candidate who is supposed to be an expert on the Constitution...unfortunately all of the leading Republican (and Democrat candidates for that matter) seem more like carnival barkers than potential leaders of the most powerful country of the world. What our country needs more than anything is a return to the values, a return to the model our founding fathers so carefully laid out for this Nation, one of limited federal powers and a return of power to the States. Reagan got it, "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem". I'll pull the lever tomorrow hoping that the candidate who is supposed to the the champion of the Constitution survives to live another day. But I will not pull that lever again if that message is ignored moving forward. A lesser of two evils is not in my wheelhouse anymore. I'll focus my time, attention and political contributions on the local dog catcher, sheriff, mayor or governor.

Posted by: Mike From Austin, Tx at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (sdPF/)

213 M57.
Claymore clacker.
--

orders of magnitude removed from thumb action on a game controller pushbutton

Posted by: Andruss Leftgarter at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (FrHFf)

214 "RK isn't drunk. He's a Baptist and doesn't go near the devil's evil liquid potion.
Posted by: L, Elle at "



Goodness you know me well.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (u8kqM)

215 Tammy! Long time no see. How are you?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (ucDmr)

216 Tammy,
It's been a while.

Took a break for a long while. After taking care of my aunt through the summer and then her passing in September from lung cancer I lost all interest in everything.

Long road back. I know you understand.

Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (SlFyt)

217 >>>Ass is the new p*ssy".

Asscat? Whoaoaoa. I think I'm going to kill myself.

Posted by: Tom Jones at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (xUkfn)

218 Don't look down at the thread below or your face will melt off.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at February 29, 2016 11:38 PM (hVdx9)

Thanks for the warning.



Pissy thread is downstairs. This is the happy thread until the basement dwellers realize there is an upstairs.
Hi RWC!

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:39 PM (2x3L+)

Thanks. Evening L'Elle

---

You're so dumb.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (u8kqM)


Ain't nothin' gonna to break my stride
Nobody's gonna slow me down, oh-no
I got to keep on movin'






Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:50 PM (hlMPp)

219 Matthew Wilder, 1983.

Great song.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:50 PM (ntObR)

220 The ace of spades monster's right leg is badly rendered.

Posted by: Tom Jones at February 29, 2016 11:51 PM (xUkfn)

221 >>> Goodness you know me well.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM
-----
Really? I totally made up all that to cover for you.
So, not to far from the mark, huh?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:51 PM (2x3L+)

222 Wilder went on to produce No Doubt's first really yuge album, Tragic Kingdom from 1995.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 29, 2016 11:51 PM (ntObR)

223 Howdy, y'all!!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 29, 2016 11:51 PM (EzgxV)

224 What Kind of Monsters Would Name Their Son Stacy...

Surely it's already been said...


...Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk
It seems I had to fight my whole life through
Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head,
I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named Sue Stacy...

Posted by: mindful webworker - rhymes with lacy at February 29, 2016 11:52 PM (5a8XA)

225 Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:48 PM (R5HRU)

You're too young to have to get up that early! Has a date been set?

Every couple of years my potassium level drops to ungodly lows. Which is bad, since even slightly low is dangerous.

But I am all topped up for now!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:52 PM (EVl8U)

226 "Really? I totally made up all that to cover for you.
So, not to far from the mark, huh?"


Holy crap, you nailed me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:53 PM (u8kqM)

227 If it wasn't for all the Baptists around here, Budweiser would be out of business.

Medicinal purposes and all.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 29, 2016 11:54 PM (dvuhZ)

228 Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:49 PM (SlFyt)

Oh, honey. I do know. I'm so sorry. I'm glad you're at least okay enough to visit us!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:54 PM (EVl8U)

229 "Wait - There Are Now Dogs Trained to Sniff Out Child Porn?"

I had to undergo several months of special training in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Calvin Broadus at February 29, 2016 11:54 PM (xUkfn)

230 little jakes are sick

sent home from school with a fever

some are not so little, they have been 90th percentile in height since birth.

my first grade daughter is taller than all the 2nd, 3rd and 4th graders at the bus stop.


Posted by: jake at February 29, 2016 11:54 PM (Onoqd)

231 Twas the night before Tuesday
And all thru the house
Not a politician was stirring
Not even a louse.
The votes were all hung
By the parties with care
In hopes that St. Establishment
Soon would be there.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (GzDYP)

232 oh,

and Happy b-day TR.

Saw you turned the six-O

Posted by: jake at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (Onoqd)

233 Ass is the new pussy?

Then what is the new 'heart-pussy?'

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (hlMPp)

234 Not a HotAir refugee but often enter AOSHQ via that site cuz they haz a link and iz a link on Drudge what has a bookmark on mah 'puter so I don't have to type teh url with one hand like Whitney Bulger...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (5csB/)

235 I must be invisible now.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (ucDmr)

236 195 I wasn't there. Followed it on the gun forum. i would have gone, but #1 son is having surgery in 36 hours. He'll be okay, but is anxious and I needed to be here.
Posted by: Tobacco Road
----------------
TR the chest rods?

Roads son has my prayers

Keep me in mind on 3/18 when back is filleted open like a walleyec

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (voOPb)

237 ah, jake, sending hugs and healing vibes to all the young jakes!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (EVl8U)

238 Climate Science? Meet The Climate Fairy

The UN has awarded a prize for "awareness" to a groups of "climate astronauts" singing about how they don't want to bathe because taking baths will destroy the world or something... Of course, they had help in their scientific endeavor by... the Climate Fairy!

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11200

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 29, 2016 11:57 PM (vBeA5)

239 >>>And as long as they're funny, I also have their own voice. That's the beauty of collectivism.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 29, 2016 11:42 PM (xUkfn)<<<

Hey you got any jokes I can "borrow"? I'm running out of lame ass material at my campaign stops.

Posted by: Dondi Rickles at February 29, 2016 11:57 PM (H9MG5)

240 Oh, and did the muslim with a bunch of names AKA Juicer get TBH3K'd?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:57 PM (hlMPp)

241 Night, all. Goodnight.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:57 PM (u8kqM)

242 Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (ucDmr)

Teach me! That's a skill that might come in handy pretty soon....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (EVl8U)

243 RK isn't drunk. He's a Baptist and doesn't go near the devil's evil liquid potion.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:46 PM (2x3L+)

Don't know very many Baptists, do you?? : )

Posted by: Blano at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (3eoPa)

244 >>> Holy crap, you nailed me.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 29, 2016 11:53 PM
----
Well, that's very weird bc I always guessed you were an atheist or agnostic or else someone like me who has trouble praying or being religious based on comments. Mostly, you just seem like a very responsible person in general.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (2x3L+)

245 Glad to be back Tammy.

Hope you are feeling better.

I don't know about you but I have list all patience with the election bullshit.

Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (SlFyt)

246 Posted by: The Political Hat at February 29, 2016 11:57 PM (vBeA5)


I don't want to live on this planet anymore, it's full of stupid. We really need to start our own Horde Space Program.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (HalrA)

247 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:52 PM (EVl8U)
I'm still with the same company I just switched up my job. A date has been set, next June. Which is great, gives me time to get in shape haha.

Wow well I'm glad you're doing better. It's great to see you in the ONT.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 29, 2016 11:59 PM (R5HRU)

248
234 Not a HotAir refugee but often enter AOSHQ via that site cuz they haz a link and iz a link on Drudge what has a bookmark on mah 'puter so I don't have to type teh url with one hand like Whitney Bulger...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (5csB)

Welcome then. Although I have to call BS. Does ace even know what Hotair is?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:59 PM (hlMPp)

249 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 29, 2016 11:56 PM (EVl8U)

............

thanks

my poor first grader, she had a rough day.

Posted by: jake at March 01, 2016 12:00 AM (Onoqd)

250 'Night Ricardo

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:00 AM (hlMPp)

251

Here's an interesting statistic from the Ben Sasse on not voting for Trump: "This is in some ways an 1860 moment" post over on Hot Air:

"So far, more than 303,000 Republican voters and more than 261,000 Democratic voters have submitted their absentee ballots, according to University of Florida political scientist Daniel Smith, who is tracking statewide absentee ballot returns ..."

"Smith said almost 44 percent of the absentee Republican votes so far are from people who did not vote in 2012.
"

.... SOMETHING has motivated about 133,000 Republican voters to participate.

What Who could it be?

Posted by: Arbalest at March 01, 2016 12:00 AM (FlRtG)

252 I'd prefer super toesday.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at March 01, 2016 12:00 AM (xUkfn)

253 Jake, I hope those big young 'uns get well soon, and thanks for the birthday wish.
Hammer, and MH - Yes, indeed, the two steel bars come out Wednesday morning. Road Jr. has a phobia about docs, which isn't good when you are about to be put under and unskewered like a shish-ka-bob.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2016 12:01 AM (on01m)

254 And old character around here, long dead, used to tend bar at some redneck honky tonks around here. He laughed at the Baptist Deacons that used to come in on Friday and Saturday nights.

One of order and told him "and keep you mouth shut". So he promptly went and told everyone about seeing Deacon so-and-so drinking and whoring. He had never opened his mouth about any of them by name before.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:01 AM (dvuhZ)

255 Ground control to Major dirt.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:01 AM (FkBIv)

256 orders of magnitude removed from thumb action on a game controller pushbutton
--------------------------
Different? Yes.
"Orders of magnitude", no.

"The winner's idea was for a games controller which harnesses kinetic energy from thumb action using wind-up triggers."

I have no idea what the kids 'invention' actually is or does, but the above description implies that power is derived from 'hand (thumb) power'.

The M57 certainly does the same thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:02 AM (9mTYi)

257 Posted by: mpfs at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (SlFyt)

Hah, I've missed a bunch and I'm still sick of it! I vote tomorrow and then I"m done til Nov.

I don't think I"ll even read the political threads, especially the one below is any indication of the way things will be around here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:03 AM (EVl8U)

258 >>39 Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Longhorns.

Or golden rodents

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (voOPb)

259 I don't want to live on this planet anymore, it's full of stupid. We really need to start our own Horde Space Program.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 29, 2016 11:58 PM (HalrA)

Let's help them go into space. They're eager enough.

I like it here.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (GzDYP)

260 TR

best wishes for Road Jr.

everything will be ok

Posted by: jake at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (Onoqd)

261 TR - Is this 'it'? I mean, will there be any future surgery after this?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (9mTYi)

262 Here's an interesting statistic from the Ben Sasse on not voting for Trump: "This is in some ways an 1860 moment" post over on Hot Air:

"Smith said almost 44 percent of the absentee Republican votes so far are from people who did not vote in 2012."

.... SOMETHING has motivated about 133,000 Republican voters to participate.

What Who could it be?

Posted by: Arbalest at March 01, 2016 12:00 AM (FlRtG)


Winning!

Posted by: John Bell at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (vBeA5)

263 Does ace even know what Hotair is?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 11:59 PM (hlMPp)


I used to think Ace was Allah Pundit.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:05 AM (EVl8U)

264 A cigar is sometimes just a cigar. But a foot is never just a foot.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at March 01, 2016 12:05 AM (xUkfn)

265 Let's help them go into space. They're eager enough.

I like it here.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:04 AM (GzDYP)

Amen.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:05 AM (EVl8U)

266 TR - Is this 'it'? I mean, will there be any future surgery after this?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
----------------------------
No reason to be that I know of.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2016 12:06 AM (on01m)

267 257: Tammy, I'm done with politics for good. I just don't give a shit anymore. The repukes we elected last term are as bad as demonrats stealing the middle class blind. Let them have it.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:06 AM (ucDmr)

268 TR - Good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (9mTYi)

269 Just saw a post on the FB groups of a Japanese restaurant where they eat food out of fake asses....(dear L*rd I hope they're fake)

Seriously, I blame Fat Man and Little Boy. Should have been MUCH bigger.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (hlMPp)

270 Halfrican, June will be gorgeous in your neck of the woods! Congratulations. I wish you both every possible joy in your life together.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (EVl8U)

271 Send them into space to escape the giant space goat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (FkBIv)

272 TR

best wishes for Road Jr.

everything will be ok
Posted by: jake
----------------

Thanks brother.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 01, 2016 12:08 AM (on01m)

273 RWC - Fatman was a slacker. Everyone knew it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:08 AM (9mTYi)

274 Geez, go get stuff out of the dryer and I miss half the thread.

You are so funny! Such epic names you come up with!

OK, not the kind of answer I was looking for. But it is an answer, so thank you for that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:08 AM (YJmuy)

275 Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:06 AM (ucDmr)

Right there with you, my friend.

If I'm gonna get fucked over, let it be by the Dems.

10xs worse when it's done by your own team.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (EVl8U)

276 271 Send them into space to escape the giant space goat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (FkBIv)


There is no escaping the Übergoat.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (HalrA)

277 I'll be staying out of the political threads, anymore. ONT and Morning thread. Sad I missed the Happy Thread today.

I'll be at all the baseball websites, Thank You Very Much!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (OQ9R7)

278 Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:08 AM (YJmuy)

I wish I knew what CSSIP or whatever is!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (EVl8U)

279 A woman is just a woman but a good cigar is a smoke!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 01, 2016 12:11 AM (5csB/)

280 254 And old character around here, long dead, used to tend bar at some redneck honky tonks around here. He laughed at the Baptist Deacons that used to come in on Friday and Saturday nights.

One of order and told him "and keep you mouth shut". So he promptly went and told everyone about seeing Deacon so-and-so drinking and whoring. He had never opened his mouth about any of them by name before.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:01 AM



Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

Protestants don't recognize the Pope as the leader of the church.

Baptists don't recognize each other as they walk in and out of the liquor store.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:11 AM (zt+N6)

281 Slappy! Yes, my God, the season can't get here quick enough.

Although they're doing their best to fuck baseball up, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (EVl8U)

282 So, how many folks here think we're all witnessing the violent death of the GOP?

Don't want to start arguments, just wondering.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (ntObR)

283 Tomorrow promises to be a "break into the reserves" kind of bourbon night.

At least I'll be able to wake up on Wednesday, and have something other than voting results to blame for feeling so damn awful.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (McRlu)

284 'night all

Posted by: jake at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (Onoqd)

285 Tammy al-Thor

not as happy as i once was but i keep praying.
i also tell myself, everything will be alright.

anyways, missed ya lady! you're a diamond.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (0KgAM)

286 Cannon was a badass.

You didn't mess with Cannon.

Posted by: eleven at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (qUNWi)

287 Send them into space to escape the giant space goat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:07 AM (FkBIv)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZYMOwvgBD4

Posted by: The Cosmic Hat at March 01, 2016 12:13 AM (vBeA5)

288 Road, prayers up for your son and his medical team.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:13 AM (EVl8U)

289 I wish I knew what CSSIP or whatever is!

No worries, it's subset of a subset of a speciality. Since I don't know for sure who everyone is IRL, thought I'd throw it out there in case some were lurking and had input.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:13 AM (YJmuy)

290 ..."Although they're doing their best to fuck baseball up, too."
-Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (EVl8U)

All Things Continued, Apace. That DH thing will drive many, many people away. Hope it never sees the Light of Day.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (OQ9R7)

291
273 RWC - Fatman was a slacker. Everyone knew it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:08 AM (9mTYi)

And he hugged TFG!


Oh, wait...

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (hlMPp)

292 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM


Makes no difference. GOP is dead to me.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (CbGSW)

293 We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (5csB/)

294 Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
--------------

Objection.
Messianic Jews do.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (9mTYi)

295 'Night Jake

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (hlMPp)

296 275: Let the commies and Hildebeast own this total collapse that's coming. Ophuckstick built the bomb, let the devil incarnate light it off. I'll be fine. Good luck free shit army.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (ucDmr)

297 I'll be staying out of the political threads, anymore. ONT and Morning thread.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (OQ9R7)

Yeah, I picked one helluva time to delurk!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (GzDYP)

298 Slapweasel, hey, was it you that mentioned a past life experience like my recent problem or was that someone else?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (2x3L+)

299 Cannon was clown. Stupid little snubby he toted was a joke.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (CbGSW)

300 282
So, how many folks here think we're all witnessing the violent death of the GOP?



Don't want to start arguments, just wondering.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (ntObR)


It committed suicide by means of its leadership pursuing an agenda hateful to the base. This is a representative system, and a representative that doesn't represent is as expensive as it is useless.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (HalrA)

301 We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.
Posted by: Zettai
------------------------

Worse, the celebration of said death.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (9mTYi)

302 Wasn't me, L,Elle.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:16 AM (OQ9R7)

303 42 "What Kind of Monsters Would Name Their Son Stacy And Other Tales From the RSM Saga"

There's actually a famous male macho actor with a moustache named Stacy Keach, so it is a legitimate male name.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 29, 2016 11:02 PM (xUkfn)
***
He was brilliant as Christopher Titus' dad....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 12:16 AM (lutOX)

304 I wish I knew what CSSIP or whatever is!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:10 AM (EVl8U)


The world's most fucked up way of spelling "catsup".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 12:16 AM (zc3Db)

305 "Yeah, I picked one helluva time to delurk!"
-Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (GzDYP)

Yup! I want to inject humor into those threads, but I just keep typing and deleting. *Sad*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (OQ9R7)

306 Posted by: concrete girl at March 01, 2016 12:12 AM (0KgAM)

Everything WILL be alright, but it's hard to see that at times.

And sometimes prayers seem more like wishing on a star than anything that feels real.

If you ever need to talk or cry or scream, I'd be honored to be the one you turn to. I can give you my email if you'd like....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (EVl8U)

307 Tomorrow. Casting my vote for Cruz. Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)

308
@301:

True dat!

Oyasumi nasai, Horde!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (5csB/)

309 It's either death or rebirth of the nation. Either way, it's gonna be epic. Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (dvuhZ)

310 Objection.
Messianic Jews do.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (9mTYi)


They're just Christians, whether they like to admit it or not.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 12:18 AM (zc3Db)

311 309, or maybe both at once.

Posted by: Piercello at March 01, 2016 12:19 AM (RXfvh)

312 Slap, someone mentioned dating a stripper. Do you remember who?

I'm not a stripper btw. Just so you know.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:19 AM (2x3L+)

313 Stacy Keach got popped for drugs in England. Imprisoned.
Later penned a memoir titled 'Spending Christmas With the Queen'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:19 AM (9mTYi)

314 Is that restaurant in Japan a Chinese food place called "Shitty Wok"?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:19 AM (WOyz5)

315 I'm not a stripper btw. Just so you know.
But you're dating one?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:20 AM (WOyz5)

316 This country has been through worse. We'll come out of it ok. Got to go through a clarifying period, that's all.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:20 AM (e7T6D)

317 Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:15 AM (2x3L+)

You have me so intrigued.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:20 AM (EVl8U)

318 My daughter is so proud of her brand spanking new voter card...looks to the left and is horrified, looks to the right and is disgusted. *sad*

Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (GzDYP)

319 I'm not a stripper btw. Just so you know.

Since nobody shows up to the ONT with pants on in the first place, this is how I know you are telling the truth.

'Evening, morons.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (6FqZa)

320 ..."I'm not a stripper btw. Just so you know."
-Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:19 AM (2x3L+)

*HAH!* HAH! (That needed two, since I think you're the farthest thing from a stripper!)

Yeah, I dated a Stripper With a Heart of Gold.
...and the spending-habits of a lunatic.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (OQ9R7)

321
We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.
Posted by: Zettai


Not with a bang but with a weiner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (FkBIv)

322 290
That DH thing will drive many, many people away. Hope it never sees the Light of Day.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (OQ9R7)


Why is it, when confronted with a choice, so many people make exactly the wrong decision?

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

323 Also.... Stacy Keach and Patton George C. Scott in ...The New Centurions. Great movie.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:22 AM (e7T6D)

324 Nvrmd, I know who it was.

No, not dating a stripper either, andycanuck!
I'm not a lesbian either. Why do I find myself repeating this all the time?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:22 AM (2x3L+)

325 *nods to Tammy*

Hopefully tomorrow will at least clarify a few things.

As for me, I am looking for ways to steady and encourage the folks around me. Emotions are high all over.

Posted by: Piercello at March 01, 2016 12:22 AM (RXfvh)

326 This country has been through worse.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:20 AM (e7T6D)


Worse than Barky - the retarded America-hater without one iota of American sensibilities about him - and a Congress and Judiciary bending over backwards to let him break any damn law he feels like and do anything that pops into that pea-brain of his? No. This nation has never seen anything like that ... and it didn't survive Barky. Our Constitutional Republic was killed and buried a few years ago. You are living in the American Socialist Superstate, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (zc3Db)

327 May the Lord look after that boy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (voOPb)

328 I'm not a lesbian either. Why do I find myself repeating this all the time?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:22 AM (2x3L+)



Cause you and willow were going to Netflix and Chill.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (zt+N6)

329 "Why is it, when confronted with a choice, so many people make exactly the wrong decision?"
-Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

They see money from T.V. and short-term idiocy as a "good bet", for some reason.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)

330 I would like to think no one here of all places would judge anyone for being a stripper.

Someone thought I was when I first delurked because I always mentioned dancing!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (EVl8U)

331 Who knew AOSHQ was tougher than the Justice League? Maybe Batman on his own but all of them?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (39g3+)

332 Our Constitutional Republic was killed and buried a few years ago. You are living in the American Socialist Superstate, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Republic of Texas

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (CbGSW)

333 Why do I find myself repeating this all the time?
All the glitter sticking to your shoes???

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (WOyz5)

334 *stuffs a fiver into L'elle's G-string*

*serpentine run!*


;-)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (McRlu)

335 So that's how it's gonna be, huh. I foolishly started lurking downstairs in the back lot brawl thread and wound up in the fetal position in the corner.

I kept scrolling hoping, nay praying, for the ONT nood. And nothing. Barely escaped with my life!

And thanks Maet as always for the content. Helps me wind down before I try to get some sleep.

I don't believe we have hit peak Idiocracy yet. "Ass" did not win any Oscar's last night.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (AJeMv)

336 Tomorrow. Casting my vote for Cruz. Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)

2 fistbumps from here! #DoinWhatWeCan

Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (GzDYP)

337 293
We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (5csB/)


It is what it is, and holding onto it is beyond the strength of my feeble hands. I did what I could, but there is no way it could have been enough. These are the realities we must acknowledge. What comes next is not of our making, all we can do is try to survive, adapt, and overcome.

This is still God's world and we know how the story ends, just not when. There will be a reckoning. Until then, keep the faith. Serve God, live, and love. Keep the spark of freedom alight, and carry it wherever you go.

From the decline of Rome into Empire to the rise of the United States was almost two thousand years. There will be another great Republic, some day. We may never see it, but those who come after will build it from what we leave behind.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:25 AM (HalrA)

338 Republic of Texas

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (CbGSW)


Lucky you.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 12:25 AM (zc3Db)

339 Thanks Tammy, I mean it.

Night all.

Posted by: thathalfrican at March 01, 2016 12:26 AM (R5HRU)

340 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (OQ9R7)

It won't drive me away, but it will piss me the fuck right off.

I have yet to get over Inter League play, although I must admit I have made peace with the wild card.

I'm not saying I LIKE it nor that I approve, but it no longer pisses me off.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:27 AM (EVl8U)

341 G'Night, thathalfrican.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:27 AM (OQ9R7)

342 Republic of Texas


Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (CbGSW)


If you think about it, Texas does not need to secede. A treaty with an organization that no longer exists is null and void, and we joined by treaty. All we have to do is make the case that the government in DC is not a legitimate government of the United States of America, and that no such entity presently exists.

Given the numerous ways that the government is in violation of its own laws and Constitution, that case is not hard to make...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (HalrA)

343 Interesting to see someone still claiming credit for Idiocracy - that after stealing the story from Kornbluth...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (NHQQx)

344 Goodnight, Halfrican!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (EVl8U)

345 Oh and... you get 2 guesses as to who put U.S. District Judge Mark Kearney on the bench - the judge that ruled cops cannot be filmed unless challenging cop behavior - was appointed by.

Yeah, you guessed right, Big O.

This man needs to be impeached and removed from the bench for such a blatantly wrong and stupid decision. Injustice at the bench must never be tolerated and must in every instance be removed in the most forceful manner without hesitation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (39g3+)

346
You may all go to Texas and I will go to Hell.

Posted by: The U.S.A. at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (FkBIv)

347
336 Tomorrow. Casting my vote for Cruz. Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)

2 fistbumps from here! #DoinWhatWeCan
Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 01, 2016 12:24 AM (GzDYP)

Pops is working the station.

#StuffedBallotBoxes

Kidding. It sucks being honest.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:29 AM (hlMPp)

348 330: WTF is wrong with strippers I always say. Some are good some not. To each their own. I would never judge. Some can pull it off, some can't. It's a skill. You either have it, or you don't.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:29 AM (ucDmr)

349 We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 01, 2016 12:14 AM (5csB/)

Yep, in real time. It is shocking, appalling, amazing and amusing all rolled into one.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 12:29 AM (3eoPa)

350 As bad as Obama is, no question.... .. it has been worse. Just imagine enduring Wilson or FDR with his made up BS and packing the court. I'm thinking it was pretty dreary back then with no end in sight. Hell... prohibition must have been horrible... well..... 'cept for prenatal NASCAR and Joe Kennedy.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:29 AM (e7T6D)

351 'Night thathalfrican

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (hlMPp)

352 Spent a lot of time pushing cardboard counters way back when. I was a rotten Nato Division commander. Stategery at theatre command eluded me. Tactically, I could create an impressive amount of junk but it was mutual.
I would have been fragged in real life if in charge of a fire team.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (FtrY1)

353 LOL. I misread Pops as Pope.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (WOyz5)

354 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


People always assume that secession would mean war, like the last time. But I always make the same point you did - what if there is no more USA?

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (CbGSW)

355 -Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:29 AM (ucDmr)

That's why I dated one. She was smart everywhere except for spending habits. It was her only disease.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (OQ9R7)

356 >>>Everything WILL be alright, but it's hard to see that at times.

If you ever need to talk or cry or scream, I'd be honored to be the one you turn to. I can give you my email if you'd like....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

i am truly honored.
thank you.
i will keep your offer close to my heart.
for now, that's just what i need.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (0KgAM)

357 Someone says they know a stripper, I need a job.

Posted by: Melissa Harris Perry at March 01, 2016 12:31 AM (Moh0M)

358 321
We are witnessing the death of the greatest nation on Earth ever.
Posted by: Zettai

Not with a bang but with a weiner.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (FkBIv)
Not with a bang, but with a Twitter.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 12:31 AM (lutOX)

359 A very goodnight, thathalfrican. Sweet dreams. Sleep well.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:31 AM (2x3L+)

360 Yeah, I dated a Stripper With a Heart of Gold.
...and the spending-habits of a lunatic.


Well think about it. What kind of woman sells her body for money? One that wants money as bad as possible and isn't picky how she gets it. There are only a few ways to do that, and only a few reasons for it. Either you want a lifestyle you cant afford, or are imprisoned by something you cannot escape - drugs, crushing debt to the mob, whatever.

That SUNY Albany story: the race of the people involved is not listed but 5 will get you 50 the 19 year old those women were attacking is white. The three aggressors who lied about racial attacks are black.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:31 AM (39g3+)

361 We have survived Barky, yes we have some injuries, but, it's not worth throwing the towel in. IMHO

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (voOPb)

362 Nice touch, ace apologizing to Duke for the friendly fire earlier today. Maybe because I was reading the thread and saw Duke's original comment, I immediately winced (and laughed) when ace pimp-slapped him, knowing there was a misunderstanding.


Even funnier, several other commenters sort of whimpered a bit, apologizing for something or other in response to ace's scolding.


As somebody commented, "I love mad ace". I hope he continues to slum it here with the common people, go hilariously nukyler on annoying mobys and trolls, and occasionally lambaste an innocent regular in the confusion of the poorly-lit alley brawl of a primary thread.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (QDnY+)

363 Dammit.
ONE thing I look forward to on TV, & what do I do tonight?
OD on great pizza & hot wings, then fall asleep 10 minutes before Better Call Saul starts.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (w+TcR)

364 Slap, how you doin?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (ucDmr)

365 NIRP: Japan just sold some 10yr debt at a yield of -2.4bps. That's -0.024%.

This is a biggie since it's long term debt, 10yr, now going negative.

It's so small, you might as well call it zero, but it has crossed the zero bound Rubicon.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (dvuhZ)

366 "Why is it, when confronted with a choice, so many people make exactly the wrong decision?"
-Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

Here's a saying I thought up:

If there's a 50-50 chance of being right, 90% of the people will get it wrong.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 12:33 AM (3eoPa)

367 We have survived Barky, yes we have some injuries, but, it's not worth throwing the towel in. IMHO

Can't throw the towel in anyway, we may need it to make a tourniquet.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:34 AM (YJmuy)

368 But I always make the same point you did - what if there is no more USA?

We may get to the point where the USA is so busy just trying to survive and deal with its collapse that states leaving are the least of its concerns or notice. And if we get to that point, its going to be fast.

Most folks seem to think civilization is the natural state of man, some default we move toward like gravity. That's nonsense. We tend toward barbarism and chaos. Civilization is bubble that can pop in less than a generation. Its fragile and can only be protected by vigilance, virtue, and education. And we've lost all three. We haven't just lost the Republic Franklin was doubtful we could keep. We're losing civilization at large.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:34 AM (39g3+)

369 357: Not until you change your earrings girl.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:34 AM (ucDmr)

370 People always assume that secession would mean
war, like the last time. But I always make the same point you did - what
if there is no more USA?


Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (CbGSW)


That's a point. My point was more that we're getting to a point of "USA in Name Only", which throws the current validity of the treaty into question.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:34 AM (HalrA)

371 Damn good, chavez. Everything is where it is supposed to be and I'm happy. ...because I choose to be, really.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:34 AM (OQ9R7)

372 Congrads to composer Ennio Morricone for the Oscar.

Here is The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLRedKcGD94

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 12:35 AM (VdICR)

373 Posted by: concrete girl at March 01, 2016 12:30 AM (0KgAM)

I will be there whenever you need me. Know that you are loved and cherished.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:36 AM (EVl8U)

374 If you think about it, Texas does not need to secede. A treaty with an organization that no longer exists is null and void, and we joined by treaty. All we have to do is make the case that the government in DC is not a legitimate government of the United States of America, and that no such entity presently exists.

Given the numerous ways that the government is in violation of its own laws and Constitution, that case is not hard to make...


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 12:28 AM (HalrA)

Texas just needs to withdraw consent to be governed.

Case closed.

Then we fight.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 12:36 AM (3eoPa)

375 T-Bar analysis of staying up for the ONT.

Learn L'Elle is a lesbian stripper...downside is...???




*kidding

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:37 AM (hlMPp)

376 363 Dammit.
ONE thing I look forward to on TV, & what do I do tonight?
OD on great pizza & hot wings, then fall asleep 10 minutes before Better Call Saul starts.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (w+TcR)




*Laughs at your lack of DVR*

It airs again at 2:30 if you want to stay up to watch it.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:37 AM (zt+N6)

377 Tammy! Been ages since I've seen you in the comments.

Christopher Taylor, you are absolutely right about the judge, but it also appears you just arrived in the country (or on the planet). Here, let me introduce you to your new friends. Compelling state interest. Levels of scrutiny. Penumbras. Oh - and the umbrella concept - lawless fabrication, legislating from the bench, and arrogation of power (i.e. "making shit up").


Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2016 12:37 AM (QDnY+)

378 371; Good to hear Slap. Cleveland Rocks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:37 AM (ucDmr)

379 Rock On, Brother!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:38 AM (OQ9R7)

380 :ears perk up: Did someone say lesbo strippers? Where? Where?! I wanna see.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:38 AM (dvuhZ)

381 Then we fight.


Posted by: Blano


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


A fight would be messy and bad for business.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:38 AM (CbGSW)

382
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Heard a report on NPR today that Europe has officially entered a period of deflation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (FkBIv)

383 363 Dammit.
ONE thing I look forward to on TV, & what do I do tonight?
OD on great pizza & hot wings, then fall asleep 10 minutes before Better Call Saul starts.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 12:32 AM (w+TcR)

Press Record on the BetaMax!

Pizza.

Hot wings.

*looking slant eyed at my protein shake.

Grrrr.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (hlMPp)

384 294 MH

> Messianic Jews

Aka Christians.

NTTAWWT

Posted by: speedster1 at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (vUcdz)

385 >>> Cause you and willow were going to Netflix and Chill.
Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (zt+N6)
----
Just bc we kissed each other on the blog means nothing. It was all very innocent and platonic. I promise.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (2x3L+)

386 rhomboid - 'Emanations', dammit, you forgot 'emanations'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:40 AM (9mTYi)

387 Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2016 12:37 AM (QDnY+)

Hey there! I like it when ace is here, too!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:40 AM (EVl8U)

388 Here, let me introduce you to your new friends. Compelling state interest.

Almost without exception, really stupid, wrong decisions like this don't last long before one of the higher courts kick that idiot in the teeth and reverse them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:41 AM (39g3+)

389 chi, sorry, but that's funny. I recall you wistfully remarking in the midst of one of today's Trump wars that at least Better Call Saul was on later ..... ha!

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2016 12:41 AM (QDnY+)

390 watching drag race videos on youtube. nascar is for posers. it fuckin sucks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:41 AM (ucDmr)

391 "Hey there! I like it when ace is here, too!"
-Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:40 AM (EVl8U)

As long as he's not coming after you, it is like a fireworks show!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:41 AM (OQ9R7)

392 Heard a report on NPR today that Europe has officially entered a period of deflation.

That's not always a bad thing, but in the case of the EU I think its fatal. They were barely hanging on as it was.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:42 AM (39g3+)

393 "Almost without exception, really stupid, wrong decisions like this don't
last long before one of the higher courts kick that idiot in the teeth
and reverse them."

or worse, enshrine them for decades...or until the whole shebang collapses.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 01, 2016 12:42 AM (ISW4H)

394 That's the funniest thing. Euroland has gone NIRP too, a bit. According to current economic theory, which is totally right, NIRP should stimulate spending and lending and the economy should take off.

But the damn real people in the real economy in the real world just aren't behaving according to that theory, the bastids. They're actually increasing saving tendencies.

My God Mable! They're gone negative. They're stealing our money. We better hunker down even more and spend less!

Real geniuses our economic Ph.D. wizards of smart. Real geniuses.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:42 AM (dvuhZ)

395 *ponders the concept of Constitutional crespuscular rays*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:43 AM (9mTYi)

396 I have a hard time understanding deflation.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:43 AM (CbGSW)

397 For decades we were told that we were dummies for not saving. Now we are dummies for not spending.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 12:44 AM (FkBIv)

398 I've been bitch slapped twice by ace, don't even remember over what. It was hysterical, and he was wrong on one count, and I was not clear on the other, but I don't remember what it was even about.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:44 AM (EVl8U)

399 I sure enjoyed today's Happy thread earlier this afternoon. Amidst all the rancor of this year, it will be a treat be reminded of what is important.

Posted by: Snicklefritz at March 01, 2016 12:44 AM (Moh0M)

400 A fight would be messy and bad for business.
Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:38 AM (CbGSW)

Pffft. A fight is totes Best for Business. Please subscribe to our network.

Posted by: WWE COO Triple H at March 01, 2016 12:44 AM (AJeMv)

401 or worse, enshrine them for decades

Yeah, that's the alternative. And increasingly it seems to be happening. After 7 years of Obama sailing every nutjar and radical freakazoid judge through congress with zero opposition I fear it will happen even more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:44 AM (39g3+)

402 deflation is a bitch. No Mas

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (e7T6D)

403 385 >>> Cause you and willow were going to Netflix and Chill.
Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:23 AM (zt+N6)
----
Just bc we kissed each other on the blog means nothing. It was all very innocent and platonic. I promise.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (2x3L+)

Rules. Pictures. Did not occur

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (voOPb)

404 I have a hard time understanding deflation.
Too bad Palin-Steele is no longer around to explain it to you.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (WOyz5)

405 A fight would be messy and bad for business.


Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:38 AM (CbGSW)

I'm ok with that.

I despise the corporate world.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (3eoPa)

406 'Night all.

Have a great day tomorrow. Hopefully most of the BS will be behind us..

Please oh please oh please.

And watch out for that lurker in the corner. Skeevy vibes that one.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:46 AM (hlMPp)

407 Just bc we kissed each other on the blog means nothing. It was all very innocent and platonic. I promise.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (2x3L+)

*throws red challenge flag, wants review*

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 12:46 AM (3eoPa)

408 404 I have a hard time understanding deflation.
Too bad Palin-Steele is no longer around to explain it to you.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (WOyz5)



Always had his tire patch kit on hand.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:46 AM (zt+N6)

409 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at March 01, 2016 12:46 AM (sl+zA)

410 G'Night, RWC.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:46 AM (OQ9R7)

411 Has anyone heard from Peaches?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:47 AM (EVl8U)

412 Always had his tire patch kit on hand.

Didn't know you could fix an inflatable girlfriend with one of those.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:47 AM (YJmuy)

413 'night, RWC

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:47 AM (EVl8U)

414 Badges?

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (e7T6D)

415 Off wrasslin' sock.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (AJeMv)

416 L, Elle if you or Willow need any practice before the next smooch, I'll donate my time. I'm a giver like that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (39g3+)

417 I haven't seen Peaches for a couple-a weeks. She didn't even say 'hello' to me.

*sniffs*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (OQ9R7)

418 116 Force Whitey Bulger to transition to Whitney Bulger. Problem solved. Men are ...........

I love being a man. I can write my name in the snow and Caitlyn can't. Suck it bitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (voOPb)

419 G'night, RWC. Want a piece of pizza for dessert?

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (w+TcR)

420 412 Always had his tire patch kit on hand.

Didn't know you could fix an inflatable girlfriend with one of those.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:47 AM (YJmuy



Pretty sure that's a joke I heard from Married With Children.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:49 AM (zt+N6)

421 407 Just bc we kissed each other on the blog means nothing. It was all very innocent and platonic. I promise.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2016 12:39 AM (2x3L+)

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Don't drag me into this. Get a room.

Posted by: Plato at March 01, 2016 12:49 AM (sl+zA)

422 Well, it's been months since I've seen her! How's her Daddy?Was she able to get the apt next door to him?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:49 AM (EVl8U)

423 What happens if I own debt issued before deflation. Is the debt worth more money? Does the value of the money pre-deflation go up or down?

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:49 AM (CbGSW)

424 Peaches was on in the last week or so.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:50 AM (zt+N6)

425 Tomorrow! I go forth and cast my ballot into the barrel, as if democracy actually worked, yet knowing the outcome already and it won't be he for whom I will vote.

But it makes me feel all warm and patrioticalish for a moment, anyway, interacting with the nice ladies who run things.

Then I'll need to re-read the happiness thread....

Time for me to go home where I can remove the pants and fill the mug. If I come back, say hello. If I don't, don't say hello.

Posted by: mindful webworker - votes early and often at March 01, 2016 12:50 AM (5a8XA)

426 Didn't know you could fix an inflatable girlfriend with one of those.
Depends if it has a manual inflation nozzle on the belt-line or not.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:50 AM (WOyz5)

427 423 What happens if I own debt issued before deflation. Is the debt worth more money? Does the value of the money pre-deflation go up or down?

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Yes.

Posted by: Tom Friedman at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (sl+zA)

428 Gotta go all. Thanks for the great chat. Good night.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (ntObR)

429 CT, not doubting this particular ruling will be thrown out. Just needed to note that judicial lawlessness and the shameless abuse of that branch to legislate and social engineer has, I think, reached catastrophic levels. Note that "oh my gawd SCOTUS appointment!! eleventy!!" is now the desperate last refuge of GOP apologists who think they're making the "smart" pitch.


That argument is technically a separate question - the point is that if SCOTUS appointments now reasonably can be feared to result in wholesale departure from some of the simplest central strictures of the Constitution (and they can), the court is no longer a court, but an unchartered, unaccountable, and illegitimate Constitutional Assembly.


And, as stupid obstructionist arcana set up to intimidate and exclude the non-priesthood go, the crap like "levels of scrutiny" in contemporary constitutional review is pretty sad. Scientists can erect some very impressive b.s. to avoid scrutiny or analysis. The constitutional bar ought to stop beclowning itself with its transparent crap, that any intelligent lay person can see through instantly.


But whatever.


Inspired by our very own chi, I am watching the clock, and must refill the wine glass and go consume one of my two weekly hours of programming from the idiot box (Better Call Saul).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (QDnY+)

430
419 G'night, RWC. Want a piece of pizza for dessert?

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 12:48 AM (w+TcR)

You sonofa....




'Night Slap. Night Tammy! Great seeing you here.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (hlMPp)

431 Pretty sure that's a joke I heard from Married With Children.

Might be, it just popped into my head and out the keyboard. Unlike Amy Schumer, I don't have time to research all the jokes I steal.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (YJmuy)

432 Does the value of the money pre-deflation go up or down?

I really do not know. If I had to guess, I'd say it goes down? Somehow? But maybe not. If it went up, that would seem overall a net positive for the economy - lower prices, savings and investments more valuable - but I can't imagine that being the case.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (39g3+)

433 I have a hard time understanding deflation.
Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:43 AM (CbGSW)

*****

Rising prices, stagnant earnings.

And, hello Miss Tammy from the former MWNP.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (YLidQ)

434 Thanks Buzz. If anyone sees her, pass long a hug from me!


And since I am in many ways tahhrd, I am off to bed.

Sweet dreams, y'all!



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (EVl8U)

435 G'Night, qdpsteve.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:52 AM (OQ9R7)

436 Come swiftly, cleansing fire, and give us peace in the great void. Come swiftly.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 12:52 AM (gy5kE)

437 Crap. Just went in the back room and I smell a dead rat. Guess tomorrow is searchy Tuesday. Maybe beat the fly hatching.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 01, 2016 12:52 AM (FtrY1)

438
And, hello Miss Tammy from the former MWNP.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (YLidQ)


There is surely a story there somewhere... will have to catch up later!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:53 AM (EVl8U)

439 431 Pretty sure that's a joke I heard from Married With Children.

Might be, it just popped into my head and out the keyboard. Unlike Amy Schumer, I don't have time to research all the jokes I steal.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:51 AM (YJmuy)



Not yours. Mine about having a tire patch kit to fix the leaks in his blowup doll.

Posted by: buzzion at March 01, 2016 12:54 AM (zt+N6)

440 Has anyone heard from Peaches?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:47 AM (EVl8U)

****

She is all in for Trump, hanging over at Breitbart.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:54 AM (YLidQ)

441 G'Night, Tammy al-Thor!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:54 AM (OQ9R7)

442 That argument is technically a separate question - the point is that if SCOTUS appointments now reasonably can be feared to result in wholesale departure from some of the simplest central strictures of the Constitution (and they can), the court is no longer a court, but an unchartered, unaccountable, and illegitimate Constitutional Assembly.

Well, exactly. The very argument that the nation is doomed if the Dems put another leftist radical on the court is an admission that the court is hopelessly compromised already. That it is irreparably destroyed and no longer a valid institution. If even a minority of justices on the court are so extreme that they simply ignore the constitution, rule of law, logic, justice, wisdom, and sanity to impose their radical ideology, then the court is simply a farce anyway.

Which is just one more reason I and so many others are saying we've crossed the line and are dead as Republic. Dead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:54 AM (39g3+)

443 I wasn't there. Followed it on the gun forum. i would have gone, but #1 son is having surgery in 36 hours. He'll be okay, but is anxious and I needed to be here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 29, 2016 11:43 PM (on01m)


Speaking of gum, there's a gun auction later in March in Three Hills, AB. One of the guns up for auction is an STG44 in .22 caliber. I assume it's some sort of reproduction, semi-auto only, as the real thing would not be legal here. What would something like that be worth?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2016 12:54 AM (afR/C)

444 Tim - MWNP? WTH? Man, I been worried about you, in a manly way, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:55 AM (9mTYi)

445 There is surely a story there somewhere... will have to catch up later!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 01, 2016 12:53 AM (EVl8U)

***

It involves a couple of gnats and a COB. Sleep well.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:55 AM (YLidQ)

446 I gotta go to bed. One more smoke and off to wherever. Sleep well morons.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2016 12:55 AM (ucDmr)

447 Guess tomorrow is searchy Tuesday. Maybe beat the fly hatching.

Probably too late if you can already smell it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 12:55 AM (39g3+)

448 Inflation is an increasing price level. Now, "price level" is sort of an ephemeral thing, but it means prices for standard goods and services are increasing all around.

Deflation is a decreasing price level.

Put another way, looking at the flip side, inflation means money is getting less valuable. It takes more money to buy something of constant value.

Deflation means money is getting more valuable. It takes less of it to buy that same thing.

Inflation benefits debtors at the expense of saves. The real value of the money you have to pay back is less than it was when you borrowed it.

Deflation benefits savers at the expense of borrowers. The money you must pay back is worth more that when you borrowed it.

Now, what is meant by "real value". Think of the inflation adjusted price notion. The nominal price of something....well no math was promised, I know. So forget an equation or two.

THe nominal price of something consists of two things. It's real price multiplied by a "price level" factor which represents the value of money.

Both can vary. Which make things complicated.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (dvuhZ)

449 G'Night, chavez.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (OQ9R7)

450 @423... That's the bitch part. Your hard assets real value go down because there is no market. Stuff is cheaper to buy but folks don't buy, they horde and wait for their money to be worth more later. Cycle reenforces. Soon, businesses cannot stock new stuff because current stuff not selling. Manufacturers curtail supply, maybe lay off folks. System grinds to halt. Tax revenue goes down. Every negative reinforces another negative. Then some with mortgages walk away from their homes or financed cars/boats/hookers. IMO, much harder to break deflationary cycle than inflationary, but I'm no econ major.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (e7T6D)

451 Tim - MWNP? WTH? Man, I been worried about you, in a manly way, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:55 AM (9mTYi)

****

I'm cool Mike, but thank you.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (YLidQ)

452 I remember studying deflation in Macroeconomics in college.

Inflation is too much money going for not enough goods. So people automatically think deflation is not enough money going for too many goods. But that last part is wrong.

And then I got a headache and I noticed how much I had been neglecting the housework.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:57 AM (CbGSW)

453 Coz, deflation is what happens when something or someone gets bitten by a dieFledermaus.

Posted by: Piercello at March 01, 2016 12:57 AM (RXfvh)

454 One of the guns up for auction is an STG44 in .22 caliber.
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Gunbroker sez ~$400

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 12:57 AM (9mTYi)

455 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 01, 2016 12:57 AM (YJmuy)

456 >>>398 I've been bitch slapped twice by ace, don't even remember over what. It was hysterical, and he was wrong on one count, and I was not clear on the other, but I don't remember what it was even about.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

when i see he's commented to me i get jazzed and then almost just as soon wince. it's like, uh, oh, do i want to read his response? it's fun and scary at the same time. not super scary. more like the teacher calling on you.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 01, 2016 12:58 AM (0KgAM)

457 G'Night, Blanco.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 12:59 AM (OQ9R7)

458 Whitey, you don't have to give them any excuses! Just pull up the cheerleads on the Sunday football thread, or even better the college football threads, and go with it! What are they gonna do, execute you?! Tell them that the elbows made you crazy!

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 12:59 AM (gy5kE)

459 Two soldiers, one an American, one from the Red Army, bump into each other quite by accident one foggy evening, and, in the confusion, end up bayoneting one another to death.

Their souls ascend to the gates, where St. Peter is waiting.

"Bad news, bot," he tells them, "because you've both shed innocent blood, even if accidentally, neither of you can go to Heaven. So, Hell it is, for both of you."

This cheery news out, he went on.

"Of course, the NATO/Warsaw Pact division applies to the after-life, as well. There's a Soviet Hell and an American Hell, and because you both have free will,you are free to choose between them."

"What's the difference?" the American asks.

"American Hell is just exactly like life in the U.S. when you were alive. Exactly like it in every way. The only catch is hat every morning, before you go about your American day, you must consume an entire bucket of sh*t."

"And what's Soviet Hell like?"

"Same basic idea - exactly like lie in the USSR, except every morning, before you start your day, you must eat two buckets of sh*t."

American, saying he's no fool, and is a patriot, chooses American Hell. The Soviet says he's spent all his life in the Soviet union, and sees no reason not to continue as a Soviet in the afterlife.

After a few years, their respective Hells being more or less like the lives they'd lived before, the two end up in the military. And one day, at the border between Soviet hell and American Hell, they both pull guard duty.

American waves, Soviet recognizes him, and they stand at the border and talk.

Soviet asks, "How's Hell treating you?

Yank says, "Well, St. Peter was right - exactly like home in every way, except for that bucket of sh*t every morning. Otherwise, it's not that bad, I suppose. And you?"

Soviet answers, "St. Peter wasn't lying, brother. Just like home - most mornings, there's not enough sh*t, and when there is, we have to line up for it."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 12:59 AM (lutOX)

460 Night Tammy! i just Put Grim to bed so i could say hi to you! I always think of you when i put on perfume...

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:00 AM (6ga6c)

461 Deflation benefits savers at the expense of borrowers.

This seems an overall positive in the long run for the economy, though. At least for the general public, if not investors.

The money you must pay back is worth more that when you borrowed it.

I don't understand that. if I borrow money worth $100 dollars today and then pay it back worth $50 a year later, how's that worth more?

Stuff is cheaper to buy but folks don't buy, they horde and wait for their money to be worth more later.

This makes sense at the top end with investors but the general public should enjoy lower prices even if its at the cost of wages. I'm not going to stockpile my rapidly reducing dollars if the price on goods goes down, I'm going to buy. Those dollars are worth less each day, and money only has value if its spent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:00 AM (39g3+)

462 Night Tammy! i just Put Grim to bed so i could say hi to you! I always think of you when i put on perfume...
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Okay... this is out of control.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 01:01 AM (9mTYi)

463 shit joke..... heh...

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 01:02 AM (e7T6D)

464 425
Time for me to go home where I can remove the pants and fill the mug.
Posted by: mindful webworker - votes early and often at March 01, 2016 12:50 AM (5a8XA)


Phrasing?

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 01:03 AM (sdi6R)

465
Soviet answers, "St. Peter wasn't lying,
brother. Just like home - most mornings, there's not enough sh*t, and
when there is, we have to line up for it."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 12:59 AM (lutOX)

I had a Russian Business Partner from whom i got my lovely stallion. He would have laughed and laughed at that joke. youre not kidding. every time they moved they took their toilets with them, if they didnt... just a pipe. Aim carefully!

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:03 AM (6ga6c)

466 Fading... Going... Going... Gone!

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 01, 2016 01:04 AM (OQ9R7)

467 From the prior thread:

That 'Let It Burn' business is folly.I'm sick of reading it, seeing it, hearing it. You truly don't know what you're asking for.

Posted by: troyriser at February 29, 2016 10:27 PM (Hz/9Y)

I know EXACTLY what I'm asking for.

I want it. I demand it. I will help light the match if necessary.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 01:04 AM (3eoPa)

468 stagflation vs. deflation?

hello early 70's!

Posted by: Gunny Zimmerman at March 01, 2016 01:04 AM (ISW4H)

469 >>>I have a hard time understanding deflation.


Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 12:43 AM (CbGSW)<<<

So do we.

Posted by: the tards in the NFL front office at March 01, 2016 01:04 AM (H9MG5)

470 Thank God that Data knew the magic words!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmM-wEPQOXo

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 01:05 AM (gy5kE)

471 Ok math for anyone interested. This the "equation of exchange", it's an equation of state, sort of like the ideal gas law.

MV = PQ.

M is the money supply. V is the velocity of money, how fast it is moving. P is the price level, and Q is the goods (think of this as a quantity or a real value).

Note this is an equation of state. It expresses a relation between variables. It doesn't tell you anything about causation or which way the variables will go in response to stimuli.

Now, take a differential (or time derivative, which what we're after).

d(MV) = Q dP + P* dQ

Divide through by the original equation:

d(MV)/MV = dP/P + dQ/Q

dP/P = d(MV/MV - dQ/Q

The thing on the left is the fractional change in price level. The thing on the right is the change in "monetary momentum" less the change in production/sale of goods and services (note I didn't break the monetary momentum down in quantity and velocity components, it's really sort of meaningless to do).

When that is positive, prices are increasing. That means the monetary momentum is increasing faster than production.

When negative, we have deflation, the monetary momentum change is less than the change in production/sale.

IOW, inflation is too much money (monetary momentum) chasing too few goods (dQ/Q), which is Friedman's famous dictum.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:06 AM (dvuhZ)

472
Okay... this is out of control.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2016 01:01 AM (9mTYi)


whats out of control about putting the spouse to bed so he can go to work, before talking to my imaginary friends in the box? or is it the fact that you didnt know that Ms Tammy know ALL ABOUT every kind of perfume and if you have questions, you need to send them to her and she will tell you if thats a lovely gift, or some stank ass toilet water...

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:07 AM (6ga6c)

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 01, 2016 01:07 AM (ISW4H)

474 In Soviet Russia, sh*t lines up for you!

...wait, I think I read that wrong.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 01, 2016 01:08 AM (39g3+)

475 'Night, Slap.
Be well.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 01:08 AM (w+TcR)

476 I have a hard time understanding deflation.
Too bad Palin-Steele is no longer around to explain it to you.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2016 12:45 AM (WOyz5)


I thought Tom Brady was the acknowledged expert.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2016 01:09 AM (afR/C)

477 Chris,

WHen you borrow $100, you must pay back $100 in principal (plus interest, which is determined by inflation expectations, but this a complicating factor).

So, you borrow $100 today. You must pay it back one year from now. In the meantime, there is deflation. That $100 you must pay back is worth more in real terms that when you borrowed it.

Hence when you're getting paid your salary, the deflation means you get less nominal dollars. But you still have contracted to pay back the same nominal amount of dollars.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:09 AM (dvuhZ)

478 I'd just like to take a moment of solemn reflection to say, Fuck the Fulda Gap, and everyone living beyond it. Thank you, thank you.

My point is that the world would be a much better place if they had used that armor and gotten it done back then. Killing cockroaches is better done early, rather than late.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 01:09 AM (gy5kE)

479 C. Taylor, the way it was explained to me , the saver thing kicks in due to uncertainty. Lower prices are initially a boon, but the psychology kicks in, if I wait, it will be cheaper. Also, you worry about future, so you start to save more. As economy slows, so does anxiety... folks aren't moving here to there, houses sit on market, etc. So it is much harder to deal with because of the cascade.

Rich folks make out like bandits in deflationary cycle. They buy up hard assets and sit on them. They can ride it out and usually have the means. Great wealth can be had on longer timeline. That truly is a rich get richer deal. The proles living on a nearer timeline cannot take advantage and end up sitting on their hands, hoping to keep working and wait. Mobility is curtailed. Debt on assets can quickly invert worth.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 01:09 AM (e7T6D)

480 Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:03 AM (6ga6c)
***
Feeling sorta nostalgic. My old landlord and sometime drinking-buddy, veteran of the Great Patriotic War, Order of Lenin, Battle of Berlin, followed by five years in gulag, chopping down the taiga, for what he either didn't know or never told me, died last week. His bleak humor and cheerful pessimism were such a delight.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 01:10 AM (/33sy)

481 I'm cool Mike, but thank you.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (YLidQ)


Ah, so that's the deal. Hiding in plain sight. I was starting to wonder.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 01:10 AM (J+mig)

482 if I borrow money worth $100 dollars today and then pay it back worth $50 a year later, how's that worth more?



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think it's bad because that $50 is actually worth more than the original $100.

So if you built a factory with pre-deflation debt that says you have to pay back $XXXXX to the bond holders, during deflation you would actually be paying back more than what you thought you would. And so you would have to default on the debt, destroying your credit and the factory, which is worth more than when you built it, would be sold to cover the debt.

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 01:11 AM (CbGSW)

483 Over at Instapundit:

WHAT HATH FRAU MERKEL WROUGHT? After Falling For 50 Years, Xenophobic Extremism On Rise In Germany. "Germany's tolerance and moderation are being tested as never before in its post-war history. The firewall it has built between respectable conservatism and the extreme right may be breaking down."

Well, if the "respectable" politicians won't talk about something that matters a lot to the public, then the public will listen to people who do talk about it, even if they're not "respectable" people. This is being made very clear on both sides of the Atlantic.


http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/227934/#respond

Indeed.

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 01:11 AM (sdi6R)

484 I try to avoid politics on these overnight threads, but I think this is beyond mere politics, and genuinely funny

http://davidmalki.tumblr.com/post/139754996168/here-is-a-poem-i-composed-using-only-phrases-from

Posted by: RoyLC at March 01, 2016 01:12 AM (DSwhx)

485 @471 I should shut up and just let publius explain... he clearly knows what of what he speaks. Sorry publius for muddying things up. Takes me so long to type, I'm missing your replies.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 01:12 AM (e7T6D)

486 Well, no matter how the economy goes, the rich do much better than the poor. That's what money means. Its not a monetary thing, its just units of power. More money means more power and that power lets you absorb bad times easier than those without it. If you have a million bucks and everyone loses half their money, you lost a lot more but still have 500 grand. Bob with a 5000 dollar savings account now has 2500.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:13 AM (39g3+)

487 "My point is that the world would be a much better place if they had used
that armor and gotten it done back then. Killing cockroaches is better
done early, rather than late."

but would anyone listen to me?

No, of course not.

Posted by: General George S. Patto at March 01, 2016 01:14 AM (ISW4H)

488 I should shut up and just let publius explain

Doesn't matter, its making my eyes cross either way. I'm more on the literature/arts side of the spectrum. Your math confuses and frightens me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:15 AM (39g3+)

489 "More money means more power and that power lets you absorb bad times easier than those without it."

until those others figure they have nothing to lose...

then it gets ugly.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 01, 2016 01:16 AM (ISW4H)

490 I have a headache now from reading those equations. Maybe you could link us to some tits next time instead?

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 01:18 AM (gy5kE)

491 Well, if the "respectable" politicians won't talk about something that matters a lot to the public, then the public will listen to people who do talk about it, even if they're not "respectable" people. This is being made very clear on both sides of the Atlantic.

Exactly. Hitler didn't arise from nowhere, it was the failure of the people who came before him that led to his rise. Napoleon didn't show up from Zeus' head, he came about because of the catastrophic failure and evil of the revolution. Donald Trump isn't doing so well because of him, he's just such a contrast to the GOP before him. They're the ones to blame for what they are getting now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:18 AM (39g3+)

492 Well, a richy rich needs to have money on hand to take advantage of deflation. If they're up to their eyeballs in hard assets already, they have to sit and wait like a plebe... or shorter-timeline person.

I might be confusing stagflation with deflation.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 01:18 AM (e7T6D)

493 Note that equation of exchange price level differential is merely an equation of state. It puts a constraint on three of 4 variables. Tells us nothing, except an important thing about what inflation/deflation is.

Inflation is usually associate with an overheated economy. Deflation is associated with depressions, shitting the bed economies, with people being wiped out and jumping out of windows.

Now, we can have deflation and a growing economy (This means dQ/dt, the production is increasing with time, growth).

And we can have inflation with a contracting economy. THis latter was the 70s. They used to think this couldn't happen. You could haven't inflation and high unemployment at the same time. This was the "Monetarist" thing.

This involves the other relations, the other constraints on all the variables.

But that is the belief: Deflation bad, Inflation good, as long as it isn't too much.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:19 AM (dvuhZ)

494 His bleak humor and cheerful pessimism were such a delight.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 01, 2016 01:10 AM (/33sy)

My friend is still alive but is starting to show signs of dementia. But hes an amazing genius of a man, and once told Stalin to get fucked! he got his passport and his ship taken away for that. Being an oceanographer without a ship is like being sent to hell i was made to understand. He then lost his laboratory and was given a barn... so to stick it to the man, he figured out a legal way to keep his own horses in it and became a horse breeder. (not legal to privately own horses in soviet times) he called himself an "Immigrant of the heart" and loved swing. Still does.

last time i saw him he would talk loudly in public places about how much he loved Obama and how he hated racists. then would go OFF on how socialism doesnt work, and havent they SEEN it? then more love for Obama in a loud voice. suddenly i realized... OMG he is on the soviet social protocols now. Thats how far we have fallen.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:19 AM (6ga6c)

495 I'm done. Sorry. Take care guys, I'm gonna kill some zeds before bedtime

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 01:20 AM (e7T6D)

496 You could haven't inflation and high unemployment at the same time.

Which is as mistaken as assuming the Carter years couldn't happen. Its just an odd combination of effects. Were it not for the shale oil boom we'd be soaking in it right now.

I still think some moderate, slow deflation is a good thing once in a while. There's no reason prices and wages always have to keep going up. I mean really, if prices and wages go up at the same speed, what the hell difference does it make if you earn more? Its like a computer game where you gain levels and all the monsters get more powerful as well. All you've gained is a number.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:22 AM (39g3+)

497 461
Deflation benefits savers at the expense of borrowers.



This seems an overall positive in the long run for the economy, though. At least for the general public, if not investors.



The money you must pay back is worth more that when you borrowed it.



I don't understand that. if I borrow money worth $100 dollars today
and then pay it back worth $50 a year later, how's that worth more?



Stuff is cheaper to buy but folks don't buy, they horde and wait for their money to be worth more later.



This makes sense at the top end with investors but the general
public should enjoy lower prices even if its at the cost of wages. I'm
not going to stockpile my rapidly reducing dollars if the price on goods
goes down, I'm going to buy. Those dollars are worth less each day,
and money only has value if its spent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:00 AM (39g3+)


One thing to note is that deflation curbstomps people who owe money, because they will have to pay back money worth more than when they borrowed it. So.....who owes a whole lot of money? More money than anyone who has ever owed money in the history of money, in fact? $20T ring a bell? That's right -- Uncle Sam.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:23 AM (EzgxV)

498 Good nut moron horde

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 01, 2016 01:25 AM (voOPb)

499 This election keeps making me think of Atlas Shrugged, which I just read. I feel like Dagny Taggart in that I want to see the railroad keep running; ie i want to see the government of our founding fathers keep going. But sometimes I wonder if I should pay more attention to a sort of John Galt point of view. When the lights go out in DC,that's when it's time to come back.


The worst thought is, what if neither happens and we just stay here being bossed around by Wesley Mooch.

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:25 AM (hnCis)

500 One thing to note is that deflation curbstomps people who owe money, because they will have to pay back money worth more than when they borrowed it. So.....who owes a whole lot of money? More money than anyone who has ever owed money in the history of money, in fact? $20T ring a bell? That's right -- Uncle Sam.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:23 AM (EzgxV)


The solution is obvious.

We simply tax the hell out of foreigners living abroad...

Posted by: The Taxing Hat at March 01, 2016 01:26 AM (vBeA5)

501 To the best of my limited knowledge of history, there has never been a time in human existence when a nation voluntarily gave up all its freedom and power to feel good about its self. I've never seen a religion take over the way the secular humanist one has, supplanting everything with nothing. People are of their own free will becoming slaves to a government with nothing to gain from it except its just harder to not do so.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:27 AM (39g3+)

502 The worst thought is, what if neither happens and we just stay here being bossed around by Wesley Mooch.

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:25 AM (hnCis)


There's one thing I've said enough times that I'm going to start calling it Cato's Law: What can't go on forever never does.

The status quo is too broken to exist for very long. It will be replaced, the only question is by what?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 01:27 AM (J+mig)

503 I'm sorry about the math. To me, that's the way I think. A differential equation is worth a thousand words.

Here's the way to think of (one) inflationary condition. You've got "easy money". A bunch of people start bidding on things, competing to buy goods and services with that easy money. This bids the price of that thing up.

It's a seller's market. Buyers are competing for sellers. I'll give you $100. No, wait, I'll give you $101. Etc. Price goes up.

This bidding is the velocity and monetary momentum effect. Now, sellers can increase production in response. Now, if the increase in production meets the increase in money being thrown at, the price doesn't increase at all, or very little.

But, when the money chasing outstrips production, then inflation results.

Deflation: It's a panic, Sell, sell, sell! A buyers market. Sellers are scrambling to unload. Now, the monetary momentum goes the other way. There is no bidding outpacing selling. The sellers are the one's now bidding the price *down* in competition. I'll sell this to you for $100!. Hell, no, I'll let you have it for $99. etc.

When that price starts going down, that sends a signal to producers to stop selling it.

And that's a contracting economy.

Inflation (generally): Buy, buy, buy!
Deflation: Sell, sell, sell!

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:28 AM (dvuhZ)

504 447

Great. Guess I will need the Bug-a-Salt gun for the flies.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 01, 2016 01:29 AM (FtrY1)

505 The status quo is too broken to exist for very long.

I just don't know any longer. By every known economic law, printing trillions of dollars and pumping them into the economy should have caused catastrophic inflation and collapsing dollar value. Yet here we are, its sort of bumping along with no growth but no real loss either. What's going on? I don't know and I don't think anyone else does either. I just have a sick feeling at the pit of my stomach that when it goes, it all going at once like an A-Bomb.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:30 AM (39g3+)

506
The worst thought is, what if neither happens and we just stay here being bossed around by Wesley Mooch.

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:25 AM (hnCis)

I am scared to death of LIB approach. i need a sort of working medical system, a way to get my meds, or i will die. thats a huge problem for me. I remember when i was first exporting horses from Russia and the ones going to Europe had to go through romania and for that portion of the trip it was safest to hire mercenaries to ride on the transport to keep people from attacking it so they could eat your horses. They were THAT poor. My Russian friend had to surround his horse farm with razor wire and let attack dogs roam the outskirts because a few men with a chainsaw could take apart one of his racehorses in less than five minutes and load it on a truck. Meat was that hard to come by and people were desperate to feed families, or make some money on the black market. So i had some personal dealings with other people's Burning Times, and they were NOT FUN.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:30 AM (6ga6c)

507 So is MissTammy here?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2016 01:30 AM (vb33c)

508 One thing about deflation: Assuming a currency whose value remains stable, the natural course of things would be a slow, gradual deflation over time. Improvements in technology and efficiency would make goods and services cheaper. This would mean an increase in the overall standard of living.

Inflation means that the currency is being manipulated.

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2016 01:32 AM (sdi6R)

509 I just don't know any longer. By every known economic law, printing trillions of dollars and pumping them into the economy should have caused catastrophic inflation and collapsing dollar value. Yet here we are, its sort of bumping along with no growth but no real loss either. What's going on? I don't know and I don't think anyone else does either. I just have a sick feeling at the pit of my stomach that when it goes, it all going at once like an A-Bomb.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:30 AM (39g3+)


What's going on right now, economically speaking, is pretty easy to explain. We're Wile E. Coyote, and just haven't looked down yet to realize that we left the road and land itself a while ago...

Once the reality of the situation becomes undeniable, gravity reasserts itself and things happen as they must.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 01:32 AM (J+mig)

510 we live in interesting times...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 01, 2016 01:32 AM (ISW4H)

511 So i had some personal dealings with other people's Burning Times, and they were NOT FUN.

Oh, if it comes to that, I know I'll be among the first to go. I offer no real valuable skills or abilities to a low-tech survival society. I don't even have any guns. Nobody wants a storyteller around if they're forced to eat rats to survive another day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:33 AM (39g3+)

512 Thanks Publius and CT and Yip.

I just needed to organize my thoughts away from inflation. All I could remember was deflation does occur but it's usually a short term (6mos-1yr) problem and it happens often in commodity markets.

But what I was thinking about was what if deflation became the norm instead of inflation? How would that effect a country as opposed to an economic sector like mining or soybeans?

Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 01:34 AM (CbGSW)

513 482
if I borrow money worth $100 dollars today and then pay it back worth $50 a year later, how's that worth more?




+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think it's bad because that $50 is actually worth more than the original $100.

So
if you built a factory with pre-deflation debt that says you have to
pay back $XXXXX to the bond holders, during deflation you would actually
be paying back more than what you thought you would. And so you would
have to default on the debt, destroying your credit and the factory,
which is worth more than when you built it, would be sold to cover the
debt.




Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 01:11 AM (CbGSW)


It's easier to understand if you remove the monetary component. In inflation, a loaf of bread costs $1 on January 1 and $2 on the next December 31. In deflation, a loaf of bread costs $1 on January 1 and $0.50 at the end of December. You have $200 of savings on January 1, you're going to love deflation -- you'll be able to buy 400 loaves of bread at year-end; if you have $200 of debt on January 1, you're going to hate deflation -- you thought you could put away 50 pounds of flour and bake 200 loaves of bread to pay the loan back....but you're going to need twice as many loaves.

Similarly, if you have $200 of savings at the beginning of the year and thought you'd get 200 loaves of bread at the end, inflation is a major bummer -- you get only 100 loaves. But if you borrowed $200 and bought frozen bread mix, you'd make out well when your baked bread got you $400 at the end of the year....if it weren't for the fact that you actually gained no additional bread loaves and that the government will make you pay taxes on that $200 "profit".

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:35 AM (EzgxV)

514 But what I was thinking about was what if deflation
became the norm instead of inflation? How would that effect a country as
opposed to an economic sector like mining or soybeans?


Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 01:34 AM (CbGSW)


Purchasing power would slowly go up as each dollar was worth more actual wealth. This would make people happy, real people, not government people, hence why it's absolutely not allowed to happen in any circumstance.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 01:36 AM (J+mig)

515 Maff is hard after midnight.

'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at March 01, 2016 01:36 AM (3eoPa)

516 Inflation means that the currency is being manipulated.

That's kind of the way I see it, too. As tech advances, prices should tend to drop which is an overall good thing for a society. Instead they keep going up, but wages go up a little faster. So in the end, things cost less per work hour but price higher which is just... weird. And it makes me think that people who are big time commodity and money brokers like Soros and big banks are playing games with numbers so it looks good to investors and pads their personal accounts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:37 AM (39g3+)

517 Oh, if it comes to that, I know I'll be among the
first to go. I offer no real valuable skills or abilities to a low-tech
survival society. I don't even have any guns. Nobody wants a
storyteller around if they're forced to eat rats to survive another day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:33 AM (39g3+)

I guess i am lucky. as long as i got some shit to work with i can patch critters and people up and i am a good midwife to animals (i havent tried with people, hope not to.) Grimmy has Marine skills to fall back on and we have stallions and mare to make non gas dependent transport, but one of the first things to fail is sanitation and medical system. your first thing you need is water, then food, then shelter. If we have a problem where power goes out then water is not far behind and lots and lots of regular people will die in the first four days. that gives me the willies about the end of Atlas Shrugged.

the lights go out. No power. thats implied death on a horrifying scale.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:39 AM (6ga6c)

518 Chris,

The reason the money printing hasn't caused general inflation (it did cause specific inflation, in the stock market, which is what they were really trying to do more than anything) is because of *velocity*.

If you print a trillion dollars and nobody uses it, it has no effect. And that's what's happening. The only effect it has was to allow Wall Street bankster high speed computers to save the stock market by bidding the prices back up.

It didn't do anything for the real economy.

That's why I was sticking with monetary momentum (the term MV looks like momentum to those with physics training). It's the product of the quantity of money and the rate which it is circulating.

Velocity is reall a problematic thing. It can't really be observed, only calculated. But it's a real effect, just sort of ephemeral.

When you run those calculations, you see the monetary velocity over the past years just crashed. The increase in quantity did nothing to increase total "momentum".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:39 AM (dvuhZ)

519 Yeah. If things go really awful, a good third of the population will die just from stupidity: food comes from the supermarket, I don't know how to start a fire, how do I get water if the tap stops making happen?

Shelter isn't a big issue right now. We've got 50-100 years worth of buildings that anyone can stay in with physical power to hold them. Water isn't a big issue because almost all population centers are near a water source. Over time it becomes more problematic because the water source will become rapidly fouled by sewage and pollution (and bodies) but at first that's not an issue.

But food... now that's a problem. You can't hunt for long because you'll tap out the local wildlife in a matter of weeks if not days. There's not room to raise any stock in a city, and even if there was, there's no food. Except in the parks, which will very rapidly be taken over by the strongest and smartest people.

Rural people will fare better, because a country boy can skin a buck and he can run a troutline. The infrastructure is in place to raise food in ranches and farms. Even smaller homes have gardens and land to grow on. But heavy population areas will empty stores in a matter of hours then prey on each other for what they have stored up and then have nothing. And while homeboy is a dangerous dude who is well armed, he doesn't really even know how to start a fire, let alone cook a pigeon.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:45 AM (39g3+)

520 Cato -
I hope that's true.

A=A

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:45 AM (hnCis)

521 That's the bitch part. Your hard assets real value go down because there is no market. Stuff is cheaper to buy but folks don't buy, they horde and wait for their money to be worth more later.

That's what economists claim but it is simply untrue. People what they have to buy and what they want to buy. The only time people wait some inordinate amount of time is when things are changing (in the second order - accelerating) not when there is constant change (i.e. a deflation rate). I gave the example of technology, which is a highly inflationary field. Everyone knows that no matter what they buy it will be old news, slow and underpowered in 6 months ... but that only stopped people from buying computers and such back in the beginning, when this was all new. Now, people are used to this nature of the field and just buy new technology whenever they want or need it. The hugely deflationary nature of the field has no effect on purchases.

Cycle reenforces. Soon, businesses cannot stock new stuff because current stuff not selling. Manufacturers curtail supply, maybe lay off folks. System grinds to halt. Tax revenue goes down. Every negative reinforces another negative. Then some with mortgages walk away from their homes or financed cars/boats/hookers. IMO, much harder to break deflationary cycle than inflationary, but I'm no econ major.

Posted by: Yip at March 01, 2016 12:56 AM (e7T6D)


Whenever you go beyond two serial implications in an economic scenario you are well outside of predictability. This is something that most economists refuse to acknowledge but it is reality.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 01:46 AM (zc3Db)

522 And that's what's happening. The only effect it has was to allow Wall Street bankster high speed computers to save the stock market by bidding the prices back up.

Here's the thing: where is all that money going? Is it just trading hands constantly so its just 1's and 0's with no real tangible value? You'd think people would be getting insanely rich, but while rich people are getting richer, its not like the Gilded Age where individual guys are worth a significant percentage of the GNP.

Where's all that money?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:46 AM (39g3+)

523 Oy ... what typos above:

"People buy what they have to buy"

"I gave the example of technology, which is a highly inflationary DEFLATIONARY field."

... sorry.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 01, 2016 01:48 AM (zc3Db)

524 http://
www.usatoday.com /story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/

This is what we would have if Trump becomes President.

This is why I will vote for Hillary, to keep Trump out!!!!

I have voted Republican my entire life.

This is sick.

Posted by: flower at March 01, 2016 01:48 AM (VoCyE)

525 505
The status quo is too broken to exist for very long.



I just don't know any longer. By every known economic law, printing
trillions of dollars and pumping them into the economy should have
caused catastrophic inflation and collapsing dollar value. Yet here we
are, its sort of bumping along with no growth but no real loss either.
What's going on? I don't know and I don't think anyone else does
either. I just have a sick feeling at the pit of my stomach that when
it goes, it all going at once like an A-Bomb.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:30 AM (39g3+)


We've lived the last decade on introductory teaser-rate credit card advances. You'd think we'd be swimming in gold lamp-posts and crystal chandeliers -- but all this money has been squandered by forcing it from "the real economy" -- where value is produced by willing buyers and willing sellers being satisfied by their transactions -- into government spending [e.g. LGTBPDQWTF studies departments at universities] or cronyism [e.g. Solyndra, Tesla, non-incandescent light bulbs, ethanol in gasoline....].

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:48 AM (EzgxV)

526 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:45 AM (39g3+)


And the survivors of the cities, staggering in numbers, once they've consumed everything they can consume and have no more, will swarm across the countryside and continue taking from the makers, as they do now only more violently.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 01:48 AM (J+mig)

527 Gushka

That. .. sounds really intense. I agree that i am not excited about burning times. A friend of mine whose diabetic explained how long he could live if society collapsed, less than 3 weeks with no refrigeration. Explained why he's not a prepper.

I'm interested in your story

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:49 AM (hnCis)

528 But food... now that's a problem. You can't hunt for long because you'll tap out the local wildlife in a matter of weeks if not days.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:45 AM (39g3+)


Now is the time to download recipes for "Long Pork"

Posted by: The Cannibalicious Hat at March 01, 2016 01:49 AM (vBeA5)

529
And the survivors of the cities, staggering in numbers, once they've consumed everything they can consume and have no more, will swarm across the countryside and continue taking from the makers


Well they'd be pretty low in numbers by that point. Between starvation, riots, fires, and just murdering each other for clothes, food, gas, and a nicer place to live there would be significant attrition. And without any sort of discipline or preparation they'd spend bullets pretty fast and run the hell out.

In a place like NYC there's a lot of people and a lot of guns, but not a lot of ammo because of all the laws. Without a constant stream of black market weapons and ammo moving in, they'd spend it pretty fast because they don't understand how the world works.

Meanwhile, Joe Bob the farmer has a few crates of "oh crap" ammo and can load his own, and nobody to shoot.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:52 AM (39g3+)

530 And while homeboy is a dangerous dude who is well
armed, he doesn't really even know how to start a fire, let alone cook a
pigeon.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:45 AM (39g3+)























then start there. learn how to make paraffin and dryer lint fire starters in egg crate molds. (UNUSED Tampons work great for that too, even have their own wick) then work on simple survival skills. remember, water, fire, shelter, food. Without fire to boil water you might harm yourself by drinking nassy water in an emergency situation. You can read. Build your skills now. In a pinch with your fire starter, and some twigs you can rub an AC/DC battery on steel wool and start a fire. its very cool. Have fun with it. some of this shit is glorious fun in that sorta-destructive-kid way.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 01:52 AM (6ga6c)

531 524:I have voted Republican my entire life.


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Sure you have sweetie, sure you have. Your concern is noted.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 01:54 AM (NGd+i)

532 516
Inflation means that the currency is being manipulated.



That's kind of the way I see it, too. As tech advances, prices
should tend to drop which is an overall good thing for a society.
Instead they keep going up, but wages go up a little faster. So in the
end, things cost less per work hour but price higher which is just...
weird. And it makes me think that people who are big time commodity and
money brokers like Soros and big banks are playing games with numbers
so it looks good to investors and pads their personal accounts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:37 AM (39g3+)


Agreed. And remember -- the government levies taxes against the nominal value of any sales over purchases. You buy a rock in 1997 for $200, which is the equivalent of 400 loaves of bread. You sell the rock in 2016 for $600, which is the equivalent of 200 loaves of bread. Not only have you lost half the value in terms of loaves of bread, you're supposed to pay taxes on $400 of capital gains.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:54 AM (EzgxV)

533 Oh I know how to survive. I know how to survive with two sticks. The knowledge is there, that's not the issue. I just don't have the energy to keep up what it takes to survive without technology. And teaching some other dude how to survive only works until he learns and doesn't need another mouth to feed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:55 AM (39g3+)

534 And the survivors of the cities, staggering in numbers, once they've
consumed everything they can consume and have no more, will swarm across
the countryside and continue taking from the makers, as they do now
only more violently.


Which is why some echelon in this economy is buying 9B rounds of ammo a year.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2016 01:56 AM (cXiMR)

535 And yeah, the end of Atlas Shrugged was not exactly happy for the people of new York or most of the country. It's acknowledged That this is not a happy time.

I

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 01, 2016 01:56 AM (hnCis)

536 And the survivors of the cities, staggering in numbers, once they've consumed everything they can consume and have no more, will swarm across the countryside and continue taking from the makers

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:52 AM (39g3+)


What people tend to forget is that this will happen in isolation. If the U.S collapes, the rest of the world will come in like a pack of jackels.

You think the illegal immigrant situation is bad now...

Posted by: The Burning Hat at March 01, 2016 01:56 AM (vBeA5)

537 Where is the money? Literally, the trillions "printed" are electronic, digi-dollars. They only exist in the Fed's computers. Real physical currency has increased, and back when I was really into this, we'd look at FRNs outstanding. It did spike up a bit here and there, but it was absolutely nothing.

Think of banks as having "reserves". This is the real money, as the Fed defines it, not the checking account balances. In the parlance, that's M0, monetary base. Bank created money is M1, M2 and MZM and all that stuff. But M0 is what the Fed creates.

Banks have this as either physical cash in their vaults, or as digits in their accounts with the Fed. These are known as reserve accounts. Or reserve balances.

Fed buys $20B of Ts from the banks. It simply increments their reserve accounts by $20B. Nothing physical happens. Now, someone might want to withdraw some bit of all that new money somehow, which would mean the Fed would have to increase the actual physical FRNs, and it would decrement the reserve accounts and hand over physical cash.

But all these trillion just live in those reserve accounts.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 01:57 AM (dvuhZ)

538 Where's all that money?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor


At Moo Moo's house.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2016 01:58 AM (FkBIv)

539 )

524
http://

www.usatoday.com /story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/



This is what we would have if Trump becomes President.



This is why I will vote for Hillary, to keep Trump out!!!!



I have voted Republican my entire life.



This is sick.

Posted by: flower at March 01, 2016 01:48 AM (VoCyE)


Please keep threads orderly by keeping this in the prior post.


'K? Thanks!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:58 AM (EzgxV)

540 rickl: Phrasing?

Um... yeah. Well, now I'm home where I can remove my pants, put my feet up, and enjoy a zesty beverage.

(wugggh)

Posted by: mindful webworker - what I meant to say was at March 01, 2016 01:59 AM (xkaSw)

541 Please keep threads orderly by keeping this in the prior post.

'K? Thanks!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 01:58 AM (EzgxV)


Now is the time for... "other things"

Mwahaha!

Posted by: The Night Hat at March 01, 2016 02:00 AM (vBeA5)

542 I'm home where I can remove my pants, put my feet up, and enjoy a zesty beverage.

Have a Snap-E Tom! Its zesty. It probably even has electrolytes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:01 AM (39g3+)

543 Watching Colony on USA.

Meh.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:01 AM (NGd+i)

544 What people tend to forget is that this will happen in isolation. If the U.S collapes, the rest of the world will come in like a pack of jackels.

You think the illegal immigrant situation is bad now...

Posted by: The Burning Hat at March 01, 2016 01:56 AM (vBeA5)


I can't imagine that people would still want to flock to this country if you replaced everything with a dysfunctional warzone. Wouldn't the appeal vanish if there were no more remittance dollars to send back?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:02 AM (J+mig)

545 I can see places like Canada getting a flood of people moving in: nice stuff, not many guns. But the USA would become a very scary place very swiftly. Mad Max doesn't make a lot of sense because they show more guns in those movies than the entire nation contains. But the USA? Some peoples' private collections eclipse that display.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:03 AM (39g3+)

546 If the world starts burning 'cause we go down, guess who the rest of the world is going to blame for all the pain? Us.

Keep that in mind with your bugout plans. Angry natives coming at the hated Americans who fucked up their lives.

I remember reading speculation about this. We are the 1% to most of the world.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 02:04 AM (dvuhZ)

547 I am under the impression that the Fed handed out money at low interest to the banks where it made its way to the stock markets (the banks were buried in debt from all of those bad home loans and home improvement loans) to prevent a deflationary cycle (more homes built than buyers).

But they loaned it out with the understanding that at some point the 1s and 0s could be reeled back in by the Fed when they felt it necessary. What happened was it went on too long and created another stock market bubble. So, again, the Fed is faced with the problem of an inflated market and if they take away the money they've spread around, the stock markets will collapse.

So they basically delayed the inevitable for 10 years. This time though, there's no way to keep the stock market from collapsing.



Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 02:04 AM (CbGSW)

548 . It simply increments their reserve accounts by $20B. Nothing physical happens.

So we can wipe out the debt by outlawing the Federal Reserve banks in one fell swoop, and making window open to all on the internet?

Posted by: Zombie Grand Knight of the Temple at March 01, 2016 02:05 AM (cXiMR)

549 One thing about deflation: Assuming a currency whose value remains
stable, the natural course of things would be a slow, gradual deflation
over time. Improvements in technology and efficiency would make goods
and services cheaper. This would mean an increase in the overall
standard of living.


This is the entire point of the free market, an idea that has somehow been lost in the last ten years or so.


Inflation means that the currency is being manipulated.

Specifically, someone is printing money, an act normally called "counterfeiting" in order to overwhelm the efficiency improvements and then some, and they and those they favor are getting the entire benefit of those funds.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 01, 2016 02:05 AM (ZbV+0)

550 I can see places like Canada getting a flood of people moving in: nice stuff, not many guns. But the USA would become a very scary place very swiftly. Mad Max doesn't make a lot of sense because they show more guns in those movies than the entire nation contains. But the USA? Some peoples' private collections eclipse that display.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:03 M (39g3+)


Belieze had less than a quarter million people. A proper filibuster and it is ours.

Unless there is some other hunk of land that is more available...

Posted by: The Filibustering Hat at March 01, 2016 02:07 AM (vBeA5)

551 Specifically, someone is printing money, an act normally called "counterfeiting" in order to overwhelm the efficiency improvements and then some, and they and those they favor are getting the entire benefit of those funds.


Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 01, 2016 02:05 AM (ZbV+0)


Now its called... quantitative easing...

That's Keynesian for Counterfeiting...

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 01, 2016 02:09 AM (RK8AH)

552 Saw there were a lot of comments to get caught up on... but fortunately, what with my brain being in "retiring" mode, I could skip all the deflation discussion.

Posted by: mindful webworker - fading fast at March 01, 2016 02:11 AM (xkaSw)

553 There is a significant portion of the world that is only really livable with technological assistance. Phoenix Arizona, Las Vegas Nevada, Nome, Alaska; places like that. Much of the Southern Hemisphere is full of that kind of territory. If everything goes to hell, those people either die, or move. And my money is on mostly dying.

Its been a long, long time since the planet has had a catastrophic reduction in population. Stuff like disease, warfare, famine, and climactic disruptions caused it in the past but for a few hundred years now technology has allowed us to avoid the bulk of that and ease the rest. WW2 and WWI were ghastly, but didn't really affect population that much. Stuff like the Black Death wiped out a third of Europe in a matter of months and they didn't recover for centuries.

We're kinda due.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (39g3+)

554 So we can wipe out the debt by outlawing the Federal Reserve banks in one fell swoop, and making window open to all on the internet?


Posted by: Zombie Grand Knight of the Temple at March 01, 2016 02:05 AM (cXiMR)

Fed has $4.5 Trillion on its balance sheet.

Largest 5 US Banks have another $10 Trillion.

That would put a pretty good dent in the Debt..

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (RK8AH)

555 Ugh. My leg is killing me and I can't get comfortable.
I wonder if pie will help?

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (8krHi)

556 Unless there is some other hunk of land that is more available...

Posted by: The Filibustering Hat at March 01, 2016 02:07 AM (vBeA5)


If Global Warming was real, I'd say Greenland, but it ain't. I think seasteading might be the best choice. Find some seamount (Koko Seamount in the northern pacific, for instance) that rises fairly close to the surface, sink some pilings, build a platform city for a surface station / dock, and keep most of the civilization underwater.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (J+mig)

557 Just go back and read what Publius wrote and cthulhu explained.



Posted by: CozMark at March 01, 2016 02:13 AM (CbGSW)

558
Oh I know how to survive. I know how to survive with two sticks. The
knowledge is there, that's not the issue. I just don't have the energy
to keep up what it takes to survive without technology. And teaching
some other dude how to survive only works until he learns and doesn't
need another mouth to feed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 01:55 AM (39g3+)

believe it or not, if you want to live, then you will live. I have known people who have seen young strong marines hurt not as bad as the mutilated dude next to them, just roll over and die sometimes, if they find out they are crippled. Others who are burned and blown up, so fucked up nobody thinks they will make it, yet somehow they pull out a win, and tell the grim reaper to fuck off. The big difference is how bad you wanna read the next chapter of the story. So far, I am lazy as all hell and kinda soft lookin, and you would never point at me and think "superhuman desire to survive in that one." Yet i keep plugging along, recovering from the craziest setbacks. I have Israeli SEALS who have been in awe of it. and serious, i am just a worthless little horsewoman from So cal with a talent for rehabing starving rescue horses and taming feral cats. You ask most people and they would put "writer" several notches above that, in the"practical skills" department.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 02:13 AM (6ga6c)

559 Now its called... quantitative easing...

That's Keynesian for Counterfeiting...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 01, 2016 02:09 AM (RK8AH)

*****

Sure, if you allow for the fact that this is now done digitally, minus the need for pesky presses. Watch "Money for Nothing" on Netflix. It ought to scare the hell right outta ya.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 01, 2016 02:17 AM (YLidQ)

560 544
What people tend to forget is that this will happen in isolation. If the
U.S collapes, the rest of the world will come in like a pack of
jackels.

You think the illegal immigrant situation is bad now...

Posted by: The Burning Hat at March 01, 2016 01:56 AM (vBeA5)


I
can't imagine that people would still want to flock to this country if
you replaced everything with a dysfunctional warzone. Wouldn't the
appeal vanish if there were no more remittance dollars to send back?


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:02 AM (J+mig)


Even more to the point, this whole house-of-cards fantasy world has been created through US manipulations: Europe doesn't have to spend anything on defense, the US will take care of things through NATO; the world doesn't have to research pharmaceuticals, the US will take care of things through the FDA, and allow you to make our $600/dose drugs for $2; the world needn't spend any money on agricultural research, the US will not only develop it, but will also provide Peace Corps volunteers to implement it; the rest of the world need not worry about pirates and bandits on major trade routes, the US Navy and Marines will patrol them to ensure their safety....the list goes on-and-on.


So, if the US starts tipping-over into going foom, how the hell are other countries going to solve all of the problems they now have inherited? Once the famines start in their home countries, will they be able to make it past the pirates without towards the US without medications? And let us not forget, they won't be able to use their hoarded dollars to bribe border guards....

The US is the linchpin, the indispensable nation -- the entire world will be so screwed if things go sideways here that raw survival will become THE primary focus. Mass migration is not in the cards.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)

561 553 There is a significant portion of the world that is only really livable with technological assistance. Phoenix Arizona, Las Vegas Nevada, Nome, Alaska; places like that. Much of the Southern Hemisphere is full of that kind of territory. If everything goes to hell, those people either die, or move. And my money is on mostly dying.


Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (39g3+)

Uh, dude, you know that people have been living in Nome, Alaska since about 10,000 years ago, yes?

We may not live the way a person in NYC lives, but that doesn't mean we are dying, either.

If it all goes to shit, that just means finding out about the old "technologies" and adhering to them. Not simple, but seriously. As someone who grew up in a subsistence household, it is not all that awful, either.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 02:18 AM (+YMhA)

562 We moved the family from Chicago to Oklahoma with some thoughts of better surviving the possible coming collapse.

All the things I had in mind to prepare? Unrealized.

Only thing we did right was move from Chicago to Oklahoma. Which, actually, was good all around.

I think I'll brush my teeth and crawl in bed now.

Sweet dreams, y'all.



Religion, the conviction-faith of the personality, can always triumph over the superficially contradictory logic of despair born in the unbelieving material mind. There really is a true and genuine inner voice, that "true light which lights every man who comes into the world."

Posted by: mindful webworker - z to the power of z at March 01, 2016 02:18 AM (xkaSw)

563 The US is the linchpin, the indispensable nation
-- the entire world will be so screwed if things go sideways here that
raw survival will become THE primary focus. Mass migration is not in the
cards.


Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)


Another Dark Age, basically.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:19 AM (J+mig)

564 My God. We really are on the edge of another Dark Age.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:21 AM (J+mig)

565 Mass migration is not in the cards.


Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)


one hopes not. the Saudis are buying up the hay farms in Coachella and shipping they hay home, not selling it here. Between them and the chinese buying the premium stuff to barge out i gotta tell you its fucking up the feed markets here. they will want our farmlands, but they are terrible farmers.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 02:21 AM (6ga6c)

566 i am just a worthless little horsewoman from So cal with a talent for rehabing starving rescue horses and taming feral cats.

I'd say training and healing horses is a damn fine survival skill and an absolutely critical one for bad times. You'd be coddled by the warlords for your ability to keep their troops moving.


So, if the US starts tipping-over into going foom, how the hell are other countries going to solve all of the problems they now have inherited?


Moar immigration! Yeah, exactly. The world is enjoying the end of Pax Americana as crazy as that sounds with the wars going on around the world, and there's nothing to replace it like when Pax Brittania ended. The only real parallel is when Rome collapsed and the world literally rolled backward, forgetting things and losing technology.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:22 AM (39g3+)

567 If Global Warming was real, I'd say Greenland, but it ain't. I think seasteading might be the best choice. Find some seamount (Koko Seamount in the northern pacific, for instance) that rises fairly close to the surface, sink some pilings, build a platform city for a surface station / dock, and keep most of the civilization underwater.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (J+mig)


Been there... done that...

Posted by: Republic of Minerva at March 01, 2016 02:23 AM (vBeA5)

568 What people tend to forget is that this will happen in isolation. If the
U.S collapes, the rest of the world will come in like a pack of
jackels.

You think the illegal immigrant situation is bad now...
---
The value of a dollar is determined by what it can be traded for and the fact that the fedgov insists we use it to pay their taxes. Dollars in foreign hands have general value because eventually they can be used to purchase stuff from us so we can pay our taxes.

When that ends for us, it ends for all of them. Our demand for their products ends *and* the value of the dollars they hold (physical or otherwise) goes rapidly to 0.

No one's going to invade us that can't today because the cost to cross an ocean becomes prohibitive. And it's a long walk for even most of mexico (which will be dealing with the fact that the cartels suddenly have nothing of value beyond their guns).

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 01, 2016 02:24 AM (ZbV+0)

569 Another Dark Age, basically.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:19 AM (J+mig)

And, while I'm at this rant, "Dark Age" was a product of the "Enlightenment." There was no "Dark Age." There was a period of about 200 years following the collapse of the secular state of Rome, during which a great deal of technology fell by the wayside, but during that time the Church consolidated the worldly knowledge into books and kept it safe, studying it and passing it along. The Church also took over the administration of most secular services. Nobody starved that didn't set out to, and nobody died from anything worse than had happened during the height of Roman rule.

It was the rise of the atheists during the so-called Enlightenment that had to claim that the death of Rome was the death of civilization, so that they could claim they had "finally" risen about it. If they didn't claim the Church was horrid and corrupt and evil, then they had no reason to claim they were in any way superior. So, they rewrote the history.

If the ages were so dark, then why do we still have the history and knowledge that existed prior to it?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 02:25 AM (+YMhA)

570 Seeing that Cold War map reminds me of a turning point in my life: Walking into a room and seeing a bunch of geeks around a table playing a weird old board game called "Fulda Gap," where you moved little cardboard tank divisions around a hex-covered map of Germany, literally "war-gaming" the Soviet invasion.

Actually, I can't continue the story, because it reveals too much, but tanks for the mammaries.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:25 AM (jBuUi)

571
Uh, dude, you know that people have been living in Nome, Alaska since about 10,000 years ago, yes?


Oh sure, and people have been living in Arizona and Nevada for almost as long. You can survive in places like that, just not remotely at the level people live right now. Compare what it takes to live there without tech and cars, planes, etc vs what it would take to live that way in, say, Iowa. The population drops precipitously, and the standard of living drops about as much. now you're living like an Eskimo instead of a New Yorker.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:25 AM (39g3+)

572 553: LOOK TO THE SKIES EARTH SCUM!!

Posted by: Killer Astroid at March 01, 2016 02:26 AM (NGd+i)

573 now you're living like an Eskimo instead of a New Yorker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
------------------
I'm trying to find the downside to this.
Coming up blank...

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:27 AM (8krHi)

574 Preppers are what happens when brain damage isn't diagnosed early

Posted by: Byebyecruz at March 01, 2016 02:27 AM (jbtzZ)

575 When the US collapses (notice I said When), the rest of the world follows. Well, the Western world. Something that can't go on forever, won't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:28 AM (NGd+i)

576 The thing about wiping out debt. One man's debt is another man's asset. That is, his savings. When you wipe out debt, you wipe out savings.

Uncle's debt -- hell, I'd have to look at the distribution. One chunk of the $20T is social security IOUs, trust fund. Wipe that out, and SS and Medicare (and military pensions and etc, etc) are wiped out.

The rest of the debt, Debt Held by the Public, in the parlance is real Ts out there. Fed has monetized some it. China, Japan, Axis of Oil, and the Axis of Drugs (Caribbean banking centers) hold a chunk of it, other foreigners less and not so significant, and the rest of the chunk is held by US citizens.

They loaned Uncle the money. They may not have known it directly, their brokers and banksters did it for them with their savings.

Wipe out Uncle debt and you've destroyed people's savings.

Oh, that's going to happen one way or the other. It can't be paid back. Which means all that savings, all that wealth people have, is nothing but vapor.

That's depressions and debt deflation. And that's what is coming, one way or the other. It must come.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 02:30 AM (dvuhZ)

577 I'm trying to find the downside to this.
Coming up blank...
Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:27 AM (8krHi)

Thank you for that. I can't imagine wanted to live like a New Yorker. I have lived in Alaska, by subsistence, and been quite happy doing it. For instance, I'm pretty sure that meat doesn't just come wrapped in plastic at a grocery store.

I'm thinking Chris might have some blinders where real life is concerned.

IMO, Until you've been up to your armpits in moose guts or salmon roe, you really don't know how life works.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 02:30 AM (+YMhA)

578 575
When the US collapses (notice I said When), the rest of the world
follows. Well, the Western world. Something that can't go on forever,
won't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:28 AM (NGd+i)


Well, look at the bright side. The Leftists won't be able to keep peddling their petty grievances. Nobody will have time for their shit.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:31 AM (J+mig)

579 If the ages were so dark, then why do we still have the history and knowledge that existed prior to it?

Well in part the Irish, who were a largely untouched monastic culture so they didn't get burned and destroyed like a lot of other areas. And in part, isolated pockets of Rome that survived through even the worst times had libraries and saved things.

But there's a lot about then we're only now finding out through archaeology because it was lost and forgotten. A ton of technology was forgotten, techniques in farming, building, metallurgy, etc, because everyone was too focused on just surviving a world without Rome to keep order, deliver mail, and regulate commerce. England really took it in the teeth when Rome just basically left one day and never came back.

You're right that the Roman Catholic Church did manage to save a ton of stuff and keep it for posterity (monasteries especially) and few capable historians even talk about a "dark age" any more, but I think you know what Cato means.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:31 AM (39g3+)

580
I'd say training and healing horses is a damn fine survival skill
and an absolutely critical one for bad times. You'd be coddled by the
warlords for your ability to keep their troops moving.



Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:22 AM (39g3+)


only if they can keep me moving with my books and supplies for making the poultices i need, and some bandits dont stupidly shoot my broodmares and stallions, because their asinine men are hungry (horses are good big targets for shooting from a distance) and that all happens if we dont die of thirst or hunger in the first weeks. I have princely horses that could breed you a whole world of fast brave tough mounts, for a nasty future, but theres a lot of ifs between it happening and safety.


in a brutal world populated by stupid short sighted people theres bleak hope even for the valuable. plenty comes down to luck. read history ... fortune favors the brave, but shes fickle and has a mean sense of humor.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 02:31 AM (6ga6c)

581 555 Ugh. My leg is killing me and I can't get comfortable.
I wonder if pie will help?

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:12 AM (8krHi)


Pie can fix anything. Remember that ice cream or whipped cream enhances the curative effects of pie immensely. It's also true that two pieces are better for you than just one.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 02:32 AM (gy5kE)

582 If the ages were so dark, then why do we still have the history and knowledge that existed prior to it?
Posted by: tcn in AK


'Cause of dem monks what transcribed everything by hand, over and over and over.

In fact, it was those "Dark Ages" monks who invented what we now call "script" or "cursive" writing, as their task was so laborious and so endless -- handcopying every known book in existence, over and over, until the end of time -- that they figured there had to be a better and faster way to write all those letters other than having to carefully inscribe them as all "capitals."

But in truth we don't have all the knowledge that came before the Dark Ages; in fact, probably 90% of Greek and Roman manuscripts were lost forever, some of which were extremely important and could have changed history. A mistake was centralizing all the manuscripts in special repositories, such as the Library of Alexandria, or various cathedrals; so that when invading armies or hordes of disgruntled peasants overrun the place, they can unwittingly burn up and destroy a millennium's worth of scientific advancements.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:33 AM (jBuUi)

583 There is so much night jasmine blooming I can smell it. I hate spring.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 01, 2016 02:33 AM (iQIUe)

584 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:31 AM (39g3+)



The loss of technology may not have been permanent, or as profound as we once thought, but the collapse of nations and degeneration of once-unified societies into tribes and warlords is a thing that can happen again. It's not something I really want to go through, either.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:34 AM (J+mig)

585 I'm trying to find the downside to this.

I think you misunderstand my meaning. I'm not talking about attitude, I'm talking about conveniences and quality of life.

Forget the doctor on cell phone, forget the deli down the street, forget the car you can get repaired any time of day, forget the cops protecting you, forget the lights being on, the water running, the sewers cleaning out your waste. Forget heat and air conditioning. Forget clothing stores. Forget being able to chat on here about funny stuff.

Think about spending 8 hours every day just trying to live tomorrow and sleeping when the sun goes down because there's nothing else to do. I think both of you grossly overestimate the pleasures of living in a dome made of ice and fishing for your meal every day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:36 AM (39g3+)

586 578 575
When the US collapses (notice I said When), the rest of the world
follows. Well, the Western world. Something that can't go on forever,
won't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:28 AM (NGd+i)


Well, look at the bright side. The Leftists won't be able to keep peddling their petty grievances. Nobody will have time for their shit.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel



While we devolve into something very Balkans like, a power vacuum will be filled. Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:36 AM (NGd+i)

587 A ton of technology was forgotten, techniques in farming, building, metallurgy, etc....
Posted by: Christopher Taylor


A good example:

The Greeks invented a functional steam engine around 500 BC, which is 2,300 years before the concept was reinvented.

Somehow, the technology was lost and forgotten.

Imagine how the history of the world would have been completely different if just this one invention had been preserved and popularized.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:38 AM (jBuUi)

588 While we devolve into something very Balkans like, a power vacuum will be filled. Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 01, 2016 02:36 AM (NGd+i)


Power vacuums never go unfilled for very long. The good news is that most of the other contenders are in about as bad a shape as we are.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:38 AM (J+mig)

589 I just want to be sure that we launch all of our nukes before the batteries all go to zero. That step will solve a ton of our problems about people trying to get here and eat the tomatoes and corn out of our survival gardens. We need to set their cities on fire, so that those not killed immediately have a nice warm place, and light, to wait out the end times. If we're going to die as savages, let's embrace it and give the world a stomach ache.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 02:39 AM (gy5kE)

590 Imagine how the history of the world would have been completely different if just this one invention had been preserved and popularized.

The problem with the Greeks is that they valued innovation and thought but despised practical use. So they invented all this amazing crap just to invent it then put it in a museum because only slaves actually did anything with it. Romans were more practical: they showed what a culture could do with Greek learning and a desire to put it to use. They took over a huge chunk of the world and kept it for a millennium.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:40 AM (39g3+)

591 583 There is so much night jasmine blooming I can smell it. I hate spring.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 01, 2016 02:33 AM (iQIUe)


Yeah, and the damn grass is growing too. When I get rich, I'm going to pour concrete everywhere!

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 02:41 AM (gy5kE)

592 The only time congress has balanced the budget in my lifetime was when Gingrich was Speaker of the House.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 02:42 AM (VdICR)

593 569
Another Dark Age, basically.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 01, 2016 02:19 AM (J+mig)



And, while I'm at this rant, "Dark Age" was a product of the
"Enlightenment." There was no "Dark Age." There was a period of about
200 years following the collapse of the secular state of Rome, during
which a great deal of technology fell by the wayside, but during that
time the Church consolidated the worldly knowledge into books and kept
it safe, studying it and passing it along. The Church also took over the
administration of most secular services. Nobody starved that didn't set
out to, and nobody died from anything worse than had happened during
the height of Roman rule.



It was the rise of the atheists during the so-called Enlightenment
that had to claim that the death of Rome was the death of civilization,
so that they could claim they had "finally" risen about it. If they
didn't claim the Church was horrid and corrupt and evil, then they had
no reason to claim they were in any way superior. So, they rewrote the
history.



If the ages were so dark, then why do we still have the history and knowledge that existed prior to it?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 02:25 AM (+YMhA)


Just going to put this out there.....the Romans were good at concrete. The Colosseum in Rome is largely concrete -- and the Pantheon, finished in 128 AD, is the world's largest unreinforced concrete dome today....

The technique of making concrete was all-but-forgotten for nearly a thousand years -- from 500 to the 14th century. It was gradually remembered and reinvented over the next several centuries until Smeaton's Tower of the mid 1750's and the patent for Portland Cement in 1824 (which used slightly different materials than the Romans).

The dark age of concrete construction had little to do with churches or The Enlightenment.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:42 AM (EzgxV)

594 The thing about wiping out debt. One man's debt is another man's asset.
That is, his savings. When you wipe out debt, you wipe out savings.
---
publius, you know what you're talking about so this isn't an attack on you, but I feel the need to comment on the misuse of the term "savings" we've all been tricked into.

You are a saver with savings if you put your money in a piggy bank or a safe.

If you hand the money over to anyone else, including a bank, you have put those funds at risk for the hope of some return or, in the case of a checking account, convenience. In this case you are an investor, and you are responsible for understanding the possibility that you may not get it back, no matter how much sunshine they blow up your butt about safety and insurance.

This is of course part of the same scheme to convince everyone that 2% inflation is ideal when the law giving the fed permission to exist says its mandate is to maintain stable (inflation = 0%) prices (yes I know it also gives a mandate regarding unemployment, which is folly as there's no reason at all to believe the fed can positively affect employment).

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 01, 2016 02:42 AM (ZbV+0)

595 According to some of the shit I read, here's what we're looking at. Ask yourself a question. What kind of hit must our economy take to absorb a reset, all that bad debt being wiped out. Well, that's not easy to answer.

In GD 1.0, the hit was about 25% cumulative over the years, more or less.

Well, how does 50% strike you? US GDP gets cut in half. That's what some of the people are coming up with for a reset.

That, ladies and gents, is economic Armageddon. That is the Greatest Depression. Ever.

That's what we're talking. And it's only getting worse as they keep the games going.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 02:46 AM (dvuhZ)

596 Think about spending 8 hours every day just trying
to live tomorrow and sleeping when the sun goes down because there's
nothing else to do. I think both of you grossly overestimate the
pleasures of living in a dome made of ice and fishing for your meal
every day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:36 AM (39g3+)



Twelve horses and a bunch of foals of various ages could keep you spending every light our either taking care of them and training them feeding and maintaining yourself and spouse and the domicile, maintaining the fenceline, and watching out for invaders at night. You would have to have chickens, rabbits and goats, perhaps a few cows, for food and dairy. Not for nothing were the old German barns stables on the bottom and human quarters on top! Made it simpler to keep an eye on the stock. But thats a lot to do. and you will want kids, but without moderns medicine every childbirth would be fraught with danger. The uncomplicated life is harder than it looks, which most simple things are.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 02:47 AM (6ga6c)

597 Power vacuums never go unfilled for very long.

SOON

Posted by: A startling large number of coywolves at March 01, 2016 02:48 AM (ZbV+0)

598 The only time congress has balanced the budget in my lifetime was when Gingrich was Speaker of the House.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 02:42 AM (VdICR)


I voted for News in the 2012 Caucus. I also remember that he took over the house when all the "smart set" said it couldn't be done.

I would love to have seen Newt vs. the SCoaMF in a Lincoln-douglas debate...

Posted by: The Debatin' Hatj at March 01, 2016 02:48 AM (vBeA5)

599 The dark age of concrete construction had little to do with churches or The Enlightenment.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:42 AM (EzgxV)


I'm enlightened! I love concrete. You pour it on grass, you never have to mow that shit again.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 02:49 AM (gy5kE)

600 >> You are a saver with savings if you put your money in a piggy bank or >> a safe.

Well, if you do that, you blow up the savings=investment "law" in all the economic equations, which the theories depend on.

The economists wouldn't like that as it mean they'd have to change the theories to account for it.

Absolutely can't do anything to change what Ph.Ds say is so.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 01, 2016 02:50 AM (dvuhZ)

601 The uncomplicated life is harder than it looks, which most simple things are.

Yeah, and all that assumes you don't have to fight the climate and surroundings just to survive each day. Add -30 daytime temperatures or a jungle full of everything trying to kill you and things get even more complicated.

That's what we're talking. And it's only getting worse as they keep the games going.

And this is why I am even more enraged at the current crop of politicians than for their sudden but inevitable betrayals. Because every can they kick down the road makes the horror worse, when they could have acted now to alleviate some of it or even prevent it. Those who fail to stop the burning times are material contributors to it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:51 AM (39g3+)

602 Who has the first aid knowledge?
Is it a bad idea to wrap my knee before bed?

Just found my knee wraps - I plan on wrapping it to help with walking tomorrow, but should I leave it off overnight? Should I keep it wrapped?
*hard impact and a good twisting. Couple hundred pounds of fencing crashed over on me.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:53 AM (8krHi)

603 Clearly that other post sucked all the happiness out of this one.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 02:53 AM (VdICR)

604 Also, it's likely that the priestly class in various Near East cultures had figured out how to make lenses, and consequently crude telescopes. We have no direct evidence of this (no surviving artifacts), but instead some very interesting indirect evidence: Each of these cultures had a goddess after whom the evening/morning "star" was named - e.g. Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus, etc. -- and in every case the symbol for this goddess was a crescent shape above either the horizon or a solar disk.

Now, the planet we know as Venus is indeed a crescent shape from our vantage point, hovering either over the horizon or over the sun, because it is closer to the sun than is earth and thus we can never see it when the planet is "full." But here's the spooky part: It is impossible to perceive with the naked eye that Venus is a crescent shape. For that level of resolution, you need a telescope, or good binoculars (which are nothing but two telescopes stuck together).

So the ONLY way for the people in charge of those ancient religions -- the priestly class, presumably -- to know that the evening star "goddess" appeared as a crescent was to have some kind of magnifying optical device (i.e. a telescope) to look at it more closely.

The alternate theory -- that they had figured out the shape of the heliocentric solar system and its orbits so precisely that they could predict, without even seeing it directly, that Venus must be in a crescent shape -- is even more astounding and unlikely, because that means they beat Copernicus and Kepler by 3,000 years.

But as far as we know, they never shared their secret device (what we now call a "lens"), and its secret died out with the religions, and had to be rediscovered millennia later. Again, this one secret technology could have completely changed history.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:54 AM (jBuUi)

605 Hmm... $140 million dollar Gods of Egypt film made $14 million on the first weekend. Someone is taking a bath on this one. Some day I would like to believe these film makers would figure out that cutting back on the ridiculous side costs of films would reduce in better movies for greater profits.

They don't need air conditioned super trailers for the stars, 100 hangers on in the entourage being cared for, the massive catering table groaning with gourmet food, etc. All the extraneous costs are there just to make life a party while they make films but it jacks up the price for no increase in production quality.

So they blow $140 million dollars to make a two hour movie, that's just inconceivable to me. No wonder they lose money when they waste it so stupidly.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:55 AM (39g3+)

606 I don't think it is very nice for people to use good-sounding food names as a nic. By the end of the thread, I'm starving!

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 02:56 AM (gy5kE)

607 Ah, three more minutes of February.

Fare thee well, sweet month.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:56 AM (jBuUi)

608 Wait, I take it back. Nobody is taking a bath on Gods of Egypt, because 46% of the cost was eaten up by the Australian government in tax credits and offsets. Lions Gate is only into this film for $10 million because of presales.

So they have made money and its all green from here on out. but on paper they can claim a massive loss. Ain't Hollywood accounting grand?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:58 AM (39g3+)

609 602
Who has the first aid knowledge?

Is it a bad idea to wrap my knee before bed?



Just found my knee wraps - I plan on wrapping it to help with
walking tomorrow, but should I leave it off overnight? Should I keep it
wrapped?

*hard impact and a good twisting. Couple hundred pounds of fencing crashed over on me.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 02:53 AM (8krHi)


What is it doing now? [Starting with "don't wrap now to cut off circulation while you sleep because it may cut off too much"] Where did the impact hit? Have you been icing it?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 02:58 AM (EzgxV)

610 Just watched it turn to March on my computer's time zone clock. Fascinating! Never done that before. Every field changed.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:59 AM (jBuUi)

611 And this is why I am even more enraged at the
current crop of politicians than for their sudden but inevitable
betrayals. Because every can they kick down the road makes the horror
worse, when they could have acted now to alleviate some of it or even
prevent it. Those who fail to stop the burning times are material
contributors to it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:51 AM (39g3+)

I have a friend in DC who still works there. Used to work in this admin in security. His opinion is that these politicians are the children of several much smarter politicians and powerful men, and trophy wives, only they got moms brains and dads looks each time. they are the stupidest fools imaginable, and stubborn and proud to boot. They push policies they don't believe in to fix problems they know they made but refuse to reverse previous policy on. We could quit voting for them, but when a smart guy comes along either we dont like him or he seems insincere.

we really arent gonna like what it gonna take to change course. thats why they havent done it. I have no clue how this culturally transgressive mess will end. I keep thinking of various Twilight Zone episodes and wondering if life would be different if young kids today watched them like we did when we were kids. Would they use them as cultural teaching stories, just scary enough to stick? i somehow think they would only find them quaint and not have the tooks they need to even understand them.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 02:59 AM (6ga6c)

612 It's 'Hollywood Accounting'. They claimed a loss on one of the Harry Potter movies IIRC.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 03:00 AM (VdICR)

613 But as far as we know, they never shared their secret device (what we now call a "lens"), and its secret died out with the religions, and had to be rediscovered millennia later. Again, this one secret technology could have completely changed history.

They have found evidence that ancient Persian temples used steam power to open gigantic counterbalanced stone temple doors. And just that. In hyper-religious cultures that can happen with tech, too: they keep it secret so that they appear to have great power and secrets that no non-priest may share.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 03:01 AM (39g3+)

614
you get 2 guesses as to who put U.S. District Judge Mark Kearney on the bench
Posted by: Christopher Taylor



You mean the GOP, right? Cause they confirmed him by voice vote -- after they knew they had won the 2014 election and were taking the Senate back:

On June 16, 2014, President Obama nominated Mark Kearney to serve as a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. On September 18, 2014 his nomination was reported out of committee by voice vote. On December 3, 2014 cloture was invoked by a vote of 60-36. He was later confirmed by voice vote that same day.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 01, 2016 03:02 AM (kdS6q)

615 The technique of making concrete was all-but-forgotten for nearly a thousand years -- from 500 to the 14th century. It was gradually remembered and reinvented over the next several centuries until Smeaton's Tower of the mid 1750's and the patent for Portland Cement in 1824 (which used slightly different materials than the Romans).

The dark age of concrete construction had little to do with churches or The Enlightenment.
Posted by: cthulhu


Even modern concrete made in 2016 is not as good as Roman concrete because we only recently learned that they used a kind of volcanic gravel in the mix which is super light and strong and which can only be found in central Italy (probably deposits from prehistoric Vesuvius eruptions). Th recipe the Romans perfected had still never been replicated exactly, nor surpassed.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:03 AM (jBuUi)

616 Well I should have gone to bed 2 hours ago but I'm in that zone where it seems like more work to get up and go to bed than sit and type a bit longer. I'll regret this tomorrow.

Happy March. Stay sane tomorrow; remember, the dude in that oval office is just another politician. Its not in his hands.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 03:04 AM (39g3+)

617 What is it doing now? [Starting with "don't wrap now to cut off circulation while you sleep because it may cut off too much"] Where did the impact hit? Have you been icing it?
Posted by: cthulhu
----------------
It's just a constant sharp pain. If I try to move it, worse.

It was fine after I walked around earlier, but after sitting still, it's pretty painful (stiff?). Not really swollen. Took the brunt of the impact on the anterior of right knee, just below the patella.
Icing it only from the inside. With a generous application of Kentucky painkiller.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 03:07 AM (8krHi)

618 Volcanic ash, limestone, and salt water. Also cheap labor. We've talked about it here maybe a month or two ago.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2016 03:07 AM (VdICR)

619 Today is the last day of the pre-Trump era.

By midnight tonight, he'll be celebrating his near-sweep on Super Tuesday and the preference cascade will be complete and from tomorrow on out he'll coast downhill to the nomination, then easily wipe Hillary off the electoral map.

So enjoy today. It will be the last day of the previous phase of your life.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:09 AM (jBuUi)

620 Now, the planet we know as Venus is indeed a crescent shape from our vantage point, hovering either over the horizon or over the sun, because it is closer to the sun than is earth and thus we can never see it when the planet is "full." But here's the spooky part: It is impossible to perceive with the naked eye that Venus is a crescent shape. For that level of resolution, you need a telescope, or good binoculars (which are nothing but two telescopes stuck together).

So the ONLY way for the people in charge of those ancient religions -- the priestly class, presumably -- to know that the evening star "goddess" appeared as a crescent was to have some kind of magnifying optical device (i.e. a telescope) to look at it more closely.

The alternate theory -- that they had figured out the shape of the heliocentric solar system and its orbits so precisely that they could predict, without even seeing it directly, that Venus must be in a crescent shape -- is even more astounding and unlikely, because that means they beat Copernicus and Kepler by 3,000 years.

But as far as we know, they never shared their scret device (what we now call a "lens"), and its secret died out with the religions, and had to be rediscovered millennia later. Again, this one secret technology could have completely changed history.
Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 02:54 AM (jBuUi)


A little mood music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJ8T2iXQWE

Posted by: The Elemental Hat at March 01, 2016 03:10 AM (vBeA5)

621 Think about spending 8 hours every day just trying to live tomorrow and sleeping when the sun goes down because there's nothing else to do. I think both of you grossly overestimate the pleasures of living in a dome made of ice and fishing for your meal every day.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 01, 2016 02:36 AM (39g3+)

And you misunderstand how people live/have lived without Wall Street, Apple or Ma Bell.

Nobody fishes every day, and nobody lives in an ice dome.

But, we do hunt when the season is upon us, plant and harvest with the season, gather fuel and build from local sources, lots of things that may seem quaint or just too hard for somebody who is not used to them. Our focus is different than somebody who lives on fast food, spends all day on the phone and takes a cab to get from point a to point b. Doesn't mean it is a less fulfilling or less exciting way to live, just different than what you are used to.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 03:12 AM (+YMhA)

622 Today is the last day of the pre-Trump era.

By midnight tonight, he'll be celebrating his near-sweep on Super Tuesday and the preference cascade will be complete and from tomorrow on out he'll coast downhill to the nomination, then easily wipe Hillary off the electoral map.

So enjoy today. It will be the last day of the previous phase of your life.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:09 AM (jBuUi)


Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!

Posted by: Conanj at March 01, 2016 03:12 AM (vBeA5)

623 After today's history-changing result, this particular day of the week will henceforth be renamed "Trumpday" to commemorate the moment of his ascendency.

Future calendars will go "Monday, Trumpday, Wednesday, Thursday..." etc.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:17 AM (jBuUi)

624 615
The technique of making concrete was all-but-forgotten for nearly a
thousand years -- from 500 to the 14th century. It was gradually
remembered and reinvented over the next several centuries until
Smeaton's Tower of the mid 1750's and the patent for Portland Cement in
1824 (which used slightly different materials than the Romans).



The dark age of concrete construction had little to do with churches or The Enlightenment.

Posted by: cthulhu



Even modern concrete made in 2016 is not as good as Roman concrete
because we only recently learned that they used a kind of volcanic
gravel in the mix which is super light and strong and which can only be
found in central Italy (probably deposits from prehistoric Vesuvius
eruptions). Th recipe the Romans perfected had still never been
replicated exactly, nor surpassed.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:03 AM (jBuUi)
615
The technique of making concrete was all-but-forgotten for nearly a
thousand years -- from 500 to the 14th century. It was gradually
remembered and reinvented over the next several centuries until
Smeaton's Tower of the mid 1750's and the patent for Portland Cement in
1824 (which used slightly different materials than the Romans).



The dark age of concrete construction had little to do with churches or The Enlightenment.

Posted by: cthulhu



Even modern concrete made in 2016 is not as good as Roman concrete
because we only recently learned that they used a kind of volcanic
gravel in the mix which is super light and strong and which can only be
found in central Italy (probably deposits from prehistoric Vesuvius
eruptions). Th recipe the Romans perfected had still never been
replicated exactly, nor surpassed.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:03 AM (jBuUi)


They also knew that adding horse hair to the mix made it less likely to crack as it hardened, and adding blood made it frost-resistant. My dad retired as the #3 civil engineer for the City of Los Angeles, and I don't recall a single instance of specifying horse hair in a concrete mix.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 03:18 AM (EzgxV)

625 The Greeks invented a functional steam engine around 500 BC, which isi2,300 years before the concept was reinvented.

No, "functional" would presume something other than courtly entertainment, which (1st-century BC) aeolipiles never achieved.

Newcomen and Watt, baby.


Posted by: what, you don't like Work? at March 01, 2016 03:19 AM (AoL85)

626 Posted by: The Elemental Hat at March 01, 2016 03:10 AM (vBeA5)

Cool song and awesome album cover. Venus is hot.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 01, 2016 03:20 AM (UnJ7w)

627
Future calendars will go "Monday, Trumpday, Wednesday, Thursday..." etc.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:17 AM (jBuUi)


you laugh but the President of Turkmenistan did shit like that! Turkmenbashi the first... you know, the one who wrote the book on how all good turkmen should live. i learned Turkmen language and part of the example sentences were lifted for pre and post perestroika propaganda booklets and i dont know which examples were more absurd. Our news is approaching that level of ridiculous.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 03:20 AM (6ga6c)

628 Doesn't mean it is a less fulfilling or less exciting way to live, just different than what you are used to.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 03:12 AM (+YMhA)

So is being blind or a quadriplegic. I like being alive in this time of history. No grinding poverty or violent death waiting around the corner. I can respect the Survivorman way of life... from the comfort of my couch. Everybody is different I guess.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 01, 2016 03:24 AM (UnJ7w)

629 617
What is it doing now? [Starting with "don't wrap now to cut off
circulation while you sleep because it may cut off too much"] Where did
the impact hit? Have you been icing it?

Posted by: cthulhu

----------------

It's just a constant sharp pain. If I try to move it, worse.



It was fine after I walked around earlier, but after sitting still,
it's pretty painful (stiff?). Not really swollen. Took the brunt of the
impact on the anterior of right knee, just below the patella.

Icing it only from the inside. With a generous application of Kentucky painkiller.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 03:07 AM (8krHi)


You need a hot date with that saucy little wench, Advil. I would advise AGAINST wrapping overnight. A little icing tonight might be advisable even though the joint will likely stiffen up worse....because it could forestall swelling in the morning.

If you have any reason to suspect a bone chipped, all bets are off.

I should probably call you tomorrow and see if there are any updates on the lawn nazi. What would be a good time?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 03:26 AM (EzgxV)

630 For me, every day is Trumpday!

Posted by: Melania T. from NY at March 01, 2016 03:27 AM (dvuhZ)

631 I can respect the Survivorman way of life... from the comfort of my couch. Everybody is different I guess.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 01, 2016 03:24 AM (UnJ7w)

i am pretty in love with indoor plumbing and modern A/C, good lighting. But i admit the animals keep me bound to the seasons, and the farm and theres always something that needs attention or needs to be fixed. But i feel like its a meaningful way to live.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 03:28 AM (6ga6c)

632
If you have any reason to suspect a bone chipped, all bets are off.

I should probably call you tomorrow and see if there are any updates on the lawn nazi. What would be a good time?


Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 03:26 AM (EzgxV)



seriously Chi, you might wanna get it X rayed just to be sure.


Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at March 01, 2016 03:30 AM (6ga6c)

633
It is impossible to perceive with the naked eye that Venus is a crescent shape. For that level of resolution, you need a telescope, or good binoculars
Posted by: zombie


When Venus is near its largest angular size at 'Inferior Conjunction', some 54 arcseconds, some people claim to have no trouble to barely discern its crescent shape. This is very close to the 1 arcminute resolution that is commonly cited as the limit to human angular resolution. This corresponds roughly to the classical '20/20' vision criterion.

Sky and Telescope - January 1990

And easy to google up other cites. One of the classic leet naked-eye astronomy "gets", like seeing Uranus, a mainbelt asteroid or a moon of Jupiter. Depends on the observer and conditions, but can be done.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 01, 2016 03:30 AM (kdS6q)

634 623
After today's history-changing result, this particular day of the week
will henceforth be renamed "Trumpday" to commemorate the moment of his
ascendency.



Future calendars will go "Monday, Trumpday, Wednesday, Thursday..." etc.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 03:17 AM (jBuUi)


Zombie, I hold you in the utmost respect -- but, please, put political stuff on some other thread. Argue about monetary policy or Keynesian economics on this one -- but exile any named candidate elsewhere.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 03:31 AM (EzgxV)

635 My time is almost at hand.

Posted by: Lord Humungus at March 01, 2016 03:32 AM (juQf+)

636 I was talking with my shooting-buddy today about the difficulties of keeping track of diverse passwords for various computer systems -- and his immediate reaction was that I should use a password manager app. Did not the Gods of Copybook Headings say something about eggs and baskets?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 03:41 AM (EzgxV)

637 Posted by: tcn in AK at March 01, 2016 03:12 AM (+YMhA)

In regards to my last post let me elaborate.
No disrespect to you and how you choose to live your life tcn. Actually I think it's wonderful and affirming. I was ruminating on the general topic about post civilization and what it would be like out loud. I have no problem with anyone choosing their lot in life I'm just glad I get to choose this easy life.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 01, 2016 03:43 AM (UnJ7w)

638 I should probably call you tomorrow and see if there are any updates on the lawn nazi. What would be a good time?

Posted by: cthulhu
-------------------
Whenever. After you eat breakfast?
Been up and down a ladder the last two days, then got impatient & careless on that fence, so i'll probably just take it easy tomorrow. Stand around slapping paint on the window trim and garage door & drink a beer or two.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 03:54 AM (MUX4s)

639 Night all.

Here is "The Wasteland" by Warrior Soul:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzdT_qjaaI

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 01, 2016 04:02 AM (vBeA5)

640 When Venus is near its largest angular size at 'Inferior Conjunction', some 54 arcseconds, some people claim to have no trouble to barely discern its crescent shape. This is very close to the 1 arcminute resolution that is commonly cited as the limit to human angular resolution. This corresponds roughly to the classical '20/20' vision criterion.

Sky and Telescope - January 1990

And easy to google up other cites. One of the classic leet naked-eye astronomy "gets", like seeing Uranus, a mainbelt asteroid or a moon of Jupiter. Depends on the observer and conditions, but can be done.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix


I dunno -- I've tried with the naked eye to see Jupiter's moons and the crescent shape of Venus, but I couldn't do it -- and I have perfect vision.

With some squinting and creative imagination I thought[/] that I could see Venus' shape, but upon looking through a telescope, I could see that it was all in my head -- I wanted to see it so bad that I imagined I had done so. Same with J's moons.

Is it possible? Hard to say. And just as hard to "test," since we can't see what another person sees.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 04:06 AM (jBuUi)

641 unitalic.

Ugh.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2016 04:07 AM (jBuUi)

642 The Imam of Philadelphia Jim Kenney wants a .03 cent tax on every soda sold, he opposed it when he was a councilman and Nutter was mayor. TV news interviews on the street had most for the tax with the usual "I don't drink them" and "it will help people stop drinking them"
Ah the joys of socialism.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:09 AM (fizMZ)

643 When I look back on my education, it's funny how academia denigrated and whitewashed Kipling....and then there's http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:19 AM (EzgxV)

644 I really like Seven of Nine. When I get my wayback machine working, we're going to have some fun.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 04:21 AM (gy5kE)

645 643
When I look back on my education, it's funny how academia denigrated and
whitewashed Kipling....and then there's
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm


Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:19 AM (EzgxV)


Incidentally, in some sort of grand jest, there is an area of offices and conference rooms in the US Capitol where every doorway has a copybook heading inscribed overhead. I've been there and seen it. Our blind and arrogant ruling class has been there more than I have ever been and somehow seen less.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:25 AM (EzgxV)

646 I keep passwords in a little paper notebook as opposed to anything on the machine, but I'm sure I'm old fashioned at this stuff.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:29 AM (fizMZ)

647 I got to be a Mico part of the Nato vs Warsaw pact war game with the arrival of A-10's in England, with a few trips to Germany.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:33 AM (fizMZ)

648 646
I keep passwords in a little paper notebook as opposed to anything on the machine, but I'm sure I'm old fashioned at this stuff.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:29 AM (fizMZ)


I used to keep a selection in my head, and used them based on implied security level. It helped that I have a "trick memory" with numbers -- I can remember my 8-digit student ID number from the school I graduated from in 1983. Since Ira dropped a keylogger on me and nabbed one of my more serious financial keys, I've gone with individual keys per site -- kept on post-its.

I've since created a form to better organize them, and I'll be moving to a gpg keyring when I get enough organized. The chance of me putting passwords in an app that I didn't personally write and compile is, plus-or-minus, zip.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:40 AM (EzgxV)

649
643
When I look back on my education, it's funny how academia denigrated and
whitewashed Kipling....and then there's
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm


Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:19 AM (EzgxV)


When we outright form a party of first principles opposed to GOPe, we should call it the Party of Copybook Headings.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:49 AM (EzgxV)

650 And it's Super Tuesday.
May God have mercy on our souls

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:51 AM (fizMZ)

651 650
And it's Super Tuesday.

May God have mercy on our souls

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:51 AM (fizMZ)


We're certainly going to find out a few things....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:53 AM (EzgxV)

652 Got to give a crying kittah head and neck scratches, get lunch together and get outta here.
Stay safe and vote Cruz.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2016 04:54 AM (fizMZ)

653 I swear, I thought voting was next week.
Oh well, I can walk over to the school in five minutes, so I'll do my part sometime mid-day.

Posted by: Chi at March 01, 2016 04:59 AM (a9KJ1)

654 The chance of me putting passwords in an app that I didn't personally write and compile is, plus-or-minus, zip.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 04:40 AM (EzgxV)


I'm with you on that. I have 8 choices for encryption (Blowfish, Blowfish(CBC) DES, DES(CBC), Triple DES, Triple DES(CBC), Rijindael, and Rijindael(CBC)) in my little program, and one printed back-up that is kept where burglars wouldn't look. I do the printout about every 4 months, and it's a pain to change passwords even that often, but it has to be done, cause' thieves gonna thieve if you give them a chance.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 05:02 AM (gy5kE)

655 Mornin'.

Quote o' the morn:

"Meat isn't murder, it's delicious" - John "Johnny Rotten" Lydon

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 01, 2016 05:04 AM (HMt16)

656 This country has been through worse. We'll come out of it ok. Got to go through a clarifying period, that's all.
Posted by: Yip


Worse? Materially yes. Spiritually? Doubtful.

Would you rather be stranded in the wilderness with a group of moral, intelligent people, or locked in a supermarket where the only other people were sociopaths and imbeciles?

Has the idiocracy ever been this idiotic before? They are all animals, only thinking of short term self interest even if that results in all the doom upthread. From elitists destroying us with immigration down to unionistas bankrupting cities and demanding protections for child molesters in their ranks. Not enough humans left.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 01, 2016 05:05 AM (xUkfn)

657 Super Tuesday. I'm tired and achy and there's a massive snowstorm coming. WHAT'S SO SUPER ABOUT IT?"

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 01, 2016 05:06 AM (HMt16)

658 Not enough humans left.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 01, 2016 05:05 AM (xUkfn)


That's a sad thing, anqela urkel, but maybe it's for the best.

Sleep tight everyone, don't let the bedbugs bite.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 05:20 AM (gy5kE)

659 658
Not enough humans left.



Posted by: angela urkel at March 01, 2016 05:05 AM (xUkfn)





That's a sad thing, anqela urkel, but maybe it's for the best.



Sleep tight everyone, don't let the bedbugs bite.

Posted by: goon at March 01, 2016 05:20 AM (gy5kE)


...he says, eight from bagging Teh Number.....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 05:23 AM (EzgxV)

660 Filler.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 01, 2016 05:24 AM (EzgxV)

661 Super Tuesday. I reckon lots of gnashing of teeth will take place today.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 05:27 AM (juQf+)

662 4 years since Andrew Breitbart left us.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 05:30 AM (juQf+)

663 And the winner is...

Posted by: Beelzebub at March 01, 2016 05:31 AM (xUkfn)

664 Damn, I hate waking up early.

Y'all have fun at the polls.

I'm going to the range today.



Posted by: SMFH at March 01, 2016 05:35 AM (rlfds)

665 Oh eff it.

Posted by: Beelzebub at March 01, 2016 05:35 AM (xUkfn)

666 Haha

Posted by: SMFH at March 01, 2016 05:36 AM (rlfds)

667 Hah

Posted by: Beelzebub at March 01, 2016 05:37 AM (xUkfn)

668 somehow that fits you SMFH

Posted by: Fort Worth Mike at March 01, 2016 05:37 AM (gvekq)

669 Lots of doom and gloom in this ONT. When the big crunch comes, I reckon to be among the first to go. Blind as a bat without my glasses.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 05:38 AM (juQf+)

670 Some of my former soldiers would agree, FWM.

Posted by: SMFH at March 01, 2016 05:39 AM (rlfds)

671 Heh...as well as my ex.

Posted by: SMFH at March 01, 2016 05:39 AM (rlfds)

672 Yeah I lurk all night and have followed a lot of your interactions, I'd say they were fine judges of character!

Posted by: Fort Worth Mike at March 01, 2016 05:40 AM (gvekq)

673 Hello horde.

I will be voting right about at 7 when polls open. Then going in to work early af to lay out my day and attempt to prevent getting fired.

Volunteering with the DDHQ tonight.

Lots of doom and gloom in this ONT. When the big crunch comes, I reckon to be among the first to go. Blind as a bat without my glasses.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 05:38 AM (juQf+)

I don't pay it any mind. Tides come in, tides go out. You can't explain that.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 01, 2016 05:51 AM (ubByS)

674
Y'all have fun at the polls.

I'm going to the range today.

Posted by: SMFH


They should put the candidates' photos on the targets. At the end of the day, the target with the fewest holes wins.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 01, 2016 06:01 AM (xUkfn)

675 New Emerson poll has Cruz only 3 ahead of Trump


In Texas

Posted by: ThunderB at March 01, 2016 06:04 AM (zOTsN)

676 Good Morning Everyone.

"Lots of doom and gloom in this ONT."

You are braver than I am GoK. I'm not even going to rewind to read any of it. Going to be plenty of it here as soon as the polls open up.

Why look for it when it will find you.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:08 AM (WVsWD)

677 Sup ThunderB

I imagine the two of us as the only ones in here, sitting on an overturned blackjack table with our feet up to keep off the broken glass.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 01, 2016 06:09 AM (ubByS)

678 You are braver than I am GoK. I'm not even going to rewind to read any of it. Going to be plenty of it here as soon as the polls open up.

Why look for it when it will find you.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:08 AM (WVsWD)

I started to scroll up to see it, but the first thing that caught my eye was one of kbdabear's ONT compliance link dumps and I didn't make it much further than that.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 01, 2016 06:09 AM (ubByS)

679 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:12 AM (ptqRm)

680 Morning.

bracing for impact

Posted by: ThunderB at March 01, 2016 06:17 AM (zOTsN)

681 Ace of Spades superhero in white has no junk. At all. Like less than a Ken doll

Posted by: ThunderB at March 01, 2016 06:19 AM (zOTsN)

682 I'm not even going to rewind to read any of it. Going to be plenty of it here as soon as the polls open up.

Why look for it when it will find you.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:08 AM (WVsWD)

I started to scroll up to see it, but the first thing that caught my eye was one of kbdabear's ONT compliance link dumps and I didn't make it much further than that.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 01, 2016 06:09 AM (ubByS)

679 G'morning, all.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:12 AM (ptqRm)


Inflation bad, deflation bad, imminent collapse of US, Mad Max dystopia, new Dark Ages to descend upon world. ANE cultures probably had telescopes because they depict Venus as crescent shaped.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 01, 2016 06:22 AM (xUkfn)

683 OMG!! The AoS superhero is a post op tranny!!

Where's Caitlyn when you need "her"

?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:22 AM (WVsWD)

684 Idiocracy should be required viewing in every pubic school during the 10th grade school year.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:24 AM (ptqRm)

685 I see on the sidebar where Ace was apologizing to Duke for being testy.


Seems a lot of that going around in the blog world lately.

Tis the time which tries men's souls.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:26 AM (ptqRm)

686 It's Super Trump Tuesday.

Enjoy :-)

Posted by: Byebyecruz at March 01, 2016 06:31 AM (H5Cvx)

687 And so it begins.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 06:32 AM (juQf+)

688 "And so it begins."

Like with eerie music in the background?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:34 AM (ptqRm)

689 Morning daywalkers.

Can't wait for another day of reasoned, rational debate regarding the various merits of Misseurs Cruz, Rubio, and Trump.

Posted by: Irony at March 01, 2016 06:36 AM (qmMG2)

690 Or The Benny Hill Theme.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 01, 2016 06:38 AM (juQf+)

691 "Can't wait for another day of reasoned, rational debate regarding the various merits of Misseurs Cruz, Rubio, and Trump."


You'll settle for "Ow, my balls!".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:39 AM (ptqRm)

692 Not voting for Trump...ever.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at March 01, 2016 06:40 AM (jDcTk)

693 For the convenience of others, I've put together this little debate template. Feel free to copy, with my compliments ...

My guy, (fill in blank), is the living reincarnation of Ronald Reagan and John Wayne all rolled into one. God, Guns, Guts, and (fill in blank) made this country great. Love it or leave it !!!

Your guy, (fill in blank), is a long-haired hippy type pinko fag. He is to vaginas what cork is to a wine bottle. By following (fill in blank), you demonstrate your eagerness to suck cock by choice.

Posted by: Irony at March 01, 2016 06:40 AM (qmMG2)

694 Heh.

Commented under a sock no less. Must be trying to get on that other list.

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at March 01, 2016 06:42 AM (oxcYa)

695 Not voting for Trump...ever.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at March 01, 2016 06:40 AM (jDcTk)

K,thnx,bye.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:42 AM (WVsWD)

696 Not voting for Trump...ever.





Posted by: DeusExMachina at March 01, 2016 06:40 AM (jDcTk)

I fear there may be more like you.

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at March 01, 2016 06:43 AM (oxcYa)

697 Posted by: Irony at March 01, 2016 06:36 AM (qmMG2)


I wasn't born yesterday; I'm guessing that was sarcasm even without the sarcasm tag. :^)

I can wait for it After early morning stuff I expect not to be on the computer today. I have some work to do, and then I get to be a refugee at my friend's house because they are doing noisy all day work at my house and I don't want to be here. I not going to pee in her pool or grope any women- or men- though, so I will be a good refugee,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2016 06:44 AM (w4NZ8)

698

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 01, 2016 06:45 AM (HSmrB)

699 CNN: Don't worry, both Hillary and Bernie will beat Trump, our poll shows Trump hasn't a chance in hell of beating either one of our wonderful candidates.

Posted by: colin at March 01, 2016 06:45 AM (VqjZf)

700 Not voting for Trump...ever

Did you show up to vote for Romney?

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2016 06:50 AM (BO/km)

701 I am grateful that my sometimes grumpy teen was actually smiling today and was willing to let me give him a hug before he went outside to catch the school bus.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2016 06:52 AM (w4NZ8)

702 "Did you show up to vote for Romney?"

Of course he did. Was one of those that told us evil SoCons that if we stayed home we were destroying his Country.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at March 01, 2016 06:53 AM (WVsWD)

703 Remember the old days, back when we announced the NOOD?

Good times

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 01, 2016 06:55 AM (ptqRm)

704 Ace of Spades superhero in white has no junk.


I've heard steroids will that to you. Maybe he's not a superheros he's just suffering from roid rage.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2016 06:55 AM (BO/km)

705 I will never vote for Kasich! Or anyone with a "R" in their name!

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at March 01, 2016 06:56 AM (j2xmV)

706 My guy, (fill in blank), is the living reincarnation of Ronald Reagan and John Wayne all rolled into one. God, Guns, Guts, and (fill in blank) made this country great. Love it or leave it !!!
_____________________

My guy looks a bit like a garden troll, does not have any executive experience, has taken positions with which I strongly disagree (H1-B, TPP, etc.), and has done things on the campaign trail which have made me cringe in disgust. But of the current choices available to me, my guy seems to be the candidate least likely to take a blowtorch to the constitution if elected president, and that is why he is my guy.

Ted Cruz.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 01, 2016 06:57 AM (df5V4)

707 No offense but somehow I doubt the Idiocracy writer was referring to Hillary Clinton being a traitor and socialist Sanders.

Posted by: Ben(the original) at March 01, 2016 11:55 AM (DcG8N)

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