Morning Thread (2-15-2016)

If you're reading this, it means you survived Valentines Day. Well done.

Posted by: Andy at 06:38 AM

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1 Get up everyone

Posted by: Taiwan_joe at February 15, 2016 06:39 AM (sy8f2)

2 oh good ... good morning freedom fighters

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 06:40 AM (5Gpe2)

3 Why yes, yes I did. Brought mrs. BC down to the coast, cooked her a nice filet, potatoes, and wine. A fine time was had by all. And by that I mean just us two old farts.

Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (Sc+fF)

4 Using the Force might work with imaginary white Finnish rapists but does it work with Muslim (i.e real) rapists?

Posted by: Reality at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (1BQGO)

5 Good morning Horde.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (/DX2n)

6 Good Morning everyone. Just by existing you are a thorn in the big toe of progtardia.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (WVsWD)

7 Can Ted Cruz clone himself? One clone on the Supreme Court, one President.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (fbovC)

8 Good morning! Happy Monday!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 15, 2016 06:45 AM (UpGcq)

9 I survived V-day by being 6000 miles away. Easy peasy.

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2016 06:45 AM (NerAD)

10 My ass looks like Margaret Cho.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 06:45 AM (u5gzz)

11 people slowly checking in .. this is how it will be after the purges ... a few survivors, but most maintain radio silence. heh

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 06:45 AM (5Gpe2)

12 good morning all

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 15, 2016 06:46 AM (uZNvH)

13 Just to make the pain of Obamas final year more insulting, it's a leap year. Had enough February already and it's only half over.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 06:46 AM (fbovC)

14 11 people slowly checking in .. this is how it will be after the purges ... a few survivors, but most maintain radio silence. heh
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They're prolly hidden in treeline, observing, waiting to see what happens to those in the clearing.

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2016 06:49 AM (NerAD)

15 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 06:52 AM (U+nHb)

16 The debate is raging now.

Will Mrs VIA have work today, or will it be called due to snow.
Calling for freezing rain on top of it as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 06:53 AM (ptqRm)

17

DAY 1,196

267 to go (340 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 06:53 AM (zLP1L)

18 bought the sweetheart a chocolate dildo...now I have a puddy tat to eat........................

Posted by: saf at February 15, 2016 06:53 AM (qKiBT)

19 Leap year, one more day for the campaign, FML

Posted by: tmitsss at February 15, 2016 06:54 AM (Pa9vP)

20 'Sup, Peeps?

Posted by: fluffy & thawed at February 15, 2016 06:54 AM (AfsKp)

21 Well when president putz puts another commie on the supreme court, there goes the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (I0sxh)

22 15 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?
Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 06:52 AM (U+nHb)

Paging Mr. "Make America Great Again."

I imagine as Trump continues to take a blowtorch to himself and the rest of the field, the Trumpettes will fall silent.

Or not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (zLP1L)

23 15
How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 06:52 AM (U+nHb)

Exactly.

And I'm wondering if any progtards who hate Trump are having some cognitive dissonance since he spewed and espoused one of their beloved memes...

Posted by: Ian Galt at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (8iiMU)

24 18 bought the sweetheart a chocolate dildo...now I have a puddy tat to eat........................
Posted by: saf at February 15, 2016 06:53 AM (qKiBT)

Come again?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (zLP1L)

25 >>> Calling for freezing rain on top of it as well.

The evening commute should be entertaining. I'm putting some outdoor gear in the car.

Posted by: fluffy & thawed at February 15, 2016 06:56 AM (AfsKp)

26 Wait. Cognitive dissonance involves mental activity.
Never mind.

Posted by: Ian Galt at February 15, 2016 06:57 AM (8iiMU)

27 16 Will Mrs VIA have work today, or will it be called due to snow.
Calling for freezing rain on top of it as well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 06:53 AM (ptqRm)

It's Lincoln's Birthday/President's Day. I assume everyone is off today anyway?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 06:57 AM (zLP1L)

28 >>> I assume everyone is off today anyway?

Neigh.

Posted by: fluffy Jessica Parker at February 15, 2016 06:59 AM (AfsKp)

29 I survived Valentine's day but that's about it. Snow kept me from going out for Valentines dinner, and I got stuck here at my daughter's house with three kids under 6 years old, all of whom complained about the meatloaf. Still here.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (DLIpz)

30 14 They're prolly hidden in treeline, observing, waiting to see what happens to those in the clearing. fastfreefall

15 "How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?"

It's a trap ... don't go out there ... moby moby .... lol

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (5Gpe2)

31 21 Well when president putz puts another commie on the supreme court, there goes the 2nd amendment.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (I0sxh)

There goes everything. If McCocksickle does not play against type and block any appointment until after 1/20/17 then he will have effectively rendered Congress obsolete and irrelevant.

The Executive and the Bureaucracy will enact laws by fiat or regulation and the Judiciary will be a rubber stamp. That is, for Democrat administrations.

A GOP executive can expect the Bureaucracy to continue to legislate via regulations and the leftist Judiciary to uphold those regs and neutralize any attempt by a GOP president to stop it.

Game, set, match. RIP America as founded.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (zLP1L)

32 The wife had me build a fire in a fireplace we've not used in a decade or so.

The romanticism of the moment had me reaching for a fire extinguisher.

No, dammit, not for our loins.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (1zS3A)

33 bought the sweetheart a chocolate dildo
That would be from the new TLC series "Sex Sent Me to the Diet Clinic."

It's on right after the FX docudrama, "O.J. and Bess."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (xq1UY)

34 From Insty, Trump on WMDs from 2000
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/226742/

Posted by: tmitsss at February 15, 2016 07:02 AM (Pa9vP)

35 Drudge seems to be trying to stir up a Scalia was murdered meme.

That would be horrible.

Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2016 07:02 AM (2Ocf1)

36 32 The wife had me build a fire in a fireplace we've not used in a decade or so.

The romanticism of the moment had me reaching for a fire extinguisher.

No, dammit, not for our loins.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (1zS3A)

Aside from the sex, starting a fire in a fireplace that has gone unused that long is asking for trouble.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:03 AM (zLP1L)

37 For the funemployed every day is a snow day.

Posted by: blaster at February 15, 2016 07:04 AM (2Ocf1)

38 @27. I assume everyone is off today anyway?- J.J. Sefton

No. I take off on President Jeff Davis's birthday.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 07:04 AM (HSAmh)

39

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 15, 2016 07:05 AM (HSmrB)

40 38 No. I take off on President Jeff Davis's birthday.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 07:04 AM (HSAmh)

It's Davis' birthday, not Davis's.

By the way, "Dixie" was written by a Yankee JOO.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:06 AM (zLP1L)

41 In a Lord Peter Wimsey story set in East Anglia, Sayers revealed that a favorite way to clear a blocked chimbley in a cottage was to fire a shotgun up it. Wonder if Dick Van Dyke ever heard about that one.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 15, 2016 07:07 AM (xq1UY)

42 Can't find the sidebar link to the polls. Want to see what if any damage to Trump is going on.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 07:07 AM (WVsWD)

43 Wisconsin apparently has not heard about Presidents Day. All schools are open.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 07:07 AM (DLIpz)

44 Wake up!

In the Hall of the Mountain King

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpzxKsSEZg

Edvard Grieg knows from crescendo.

Posted by: fluffy at February 15, 2016 07:08 AM (AfsKp)

45 Good morning!

From this date in 1944- Anzio beachhead

Clear and warm. Shells started kicking up the dirt around the Brig CP. Makes me glad for a cave to sleep in, even though we do have air raids every night. Surprising how casual one becomes over such things.
Still little change in the situation.

Brig CP = Brigade Command Post

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 15, 2016 07:09 AM (NeFrd)

46 DAY 1,196

267 to go (340 to Inauguration Day )

****

Surprising how casual one becomes over such things.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 15, 2016 07:09 AM (NeFrd)

47 Wisconsin apparently has not heard about Presidents Day. All schools are open.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 07:07 AM (DLIpz)

Same here. NC traded it for MLK Day.

MLK>Washington/Lincoln

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 15, 2016 07:11 AM (oxcYa)

48 >>> By the way, "Dixie" was written by a Yankee JOO.

You guys are everywhere!

Posted by: fluffy at February 15, 2016 07:11 AM (AfsKp)

49 They called it.
Mrs VIA's office is closed due to weather.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:12 AM (ptqRm)

50 By the way, "Dixie" was written by a Yankee JOO.

You guys are everywhere!

Posted by: fluffy

*****

Look away, look away, look away!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 15, 2016 07:12 AM (NeFrd)

51 I am pretty sure that an originality reading the plain text if the US Constitution in Article 2 Section 2 would be able to find anything that says in the last year of a four year term the POTUS should not nominate a new Supreme

Posted by: Terry at February 15, 2016 07:12 AM (/AUZ3)

52 47 MLK>Washington/Lincoln
Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 15, 2016 07:11 AM (oxcYa)

I expect the SJW crowd to petition that the MLK holiday be abolished since "content of character over color of skin" is a trigger.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:12 AM (zLP1L)

53 51 I am pretty sure that an originality reading the plain text if the US Constitution in Article 2 Section 2 would be able to find anything that says in the last year of a four year term the POTUS should not nominate a new Supreme
Posted by: Terry at February 15, 2016 07:12 AM (/AUZ3)

Hugh Hewitt pwn3d Austan Ghouls-bee over this. There is nothing in the Constitution demanding the seat be filled immediately or any time frame for that matter.

The problem is that a 4-4 tie means that the lower court decision is the one that stands.

That means the Little Sisters of the Poor will be sent to the gulags.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:15 AM (zLP1L)

54
In the "even a blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn" category, we find the 2/13/16 NYT's Maureen Dowd column, "When Hillary Clinton Killed Feminism":

Hillary started, both last time and this, from a place of entitlement, as though if she reads her resume long enough people will surrender. And now she's even angrier that she has been shown up by someone she considers even less qualified than Obama was when he usurped her place.

Bernie has a clear, concise "we" message, even if it's pie-in-the-sky: The game is rigged and we have to take the country back from the privileged few and make it work for everyone. Hillary has an "I" message: I have been abused and misunderstood and it's my turn.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 15, 2016 07:17 AM (BK3ZS)

55 It's Davis' Birthday not Davis's.- J.J.

Not according to Miss Grammar.

By the way, Dixie was written by a Yankee JOO.- J.J.

So what? As a Christian my best friend is Jewish. Don't think he was a yanker though.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 07:17 AM (HSAmh)

56 If the Supreme Court vacancy becomes an election issue-- advantage Republicans. Gun owners will got off their butts to vote.

Trump has this one correct -- delay, delay, delay. Cruz had all the details of precedence dead on at the debate.

Let 'we the people' decide the direction of the court.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 07:23 AM (fbovC)

57 Laura Ingraham has a good take on Trump vs Bush Dynasty.
It is a battle he needs to fight, so lets make the most of it.
http://tinyurl.com/zlqb3u8

By 2008 many were fed up with "not winning", to put it mildly, when Trump applauded the Pelosi desire to impeach Bush. Trump back in 2004 was already being outspoken against trying to democratize the Middle East. He looks prescient now, but is still despised for it by loyalists.

In the debate Trump blamed Clinton first, then said Bush also had a shot at bin Laden. Most of "us" thought the yellow cake and multi-purpose tubes for centrifuges was slight evidence of a real nuke program, but were OK with that "lie" or exaggeration if stabilizing Iraq was in our strategic interest. But over time we failed to win and now some must beat their chest to defend Bush. Isn't that partly what Ace's ego post was about ... the ego voters have in defending the Iraq War?

So Trump took it on head on, it is idiocy to say his statement are idiocy. Also idiocy to say it makes him a leftist to bash the Bush Dynasty, which Jebby is running on, with George and Company now aiding him.

Stopping the flood of illegals and jihadists is how we best defend our country, and trading with America First in mind. Arming the right Muslim Brotherhood groups has not worked out so well, regardless of how many Muslim tribes Rubio can name. Europe is being lost to immigration and is building fences, not following the Rubio/establishment plan of arming more friendly Muslims, or taking out Assad, or deploying the no fly zones.

America First versus the globalists. I'll take Cruz as a second choice, but his political pedigree is the Bush Dynasty, and his family financial pedigree is Goldman Sachs, as they conveniently gave his wife a job in her time of need in 2005. America First.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 07:24 AM (5Gpe2)

58 Good morning, everyone.

Has Bitch McConnell figured out how to screw up this opportunity to prevent Obama from appointing Scalia's replacement yet?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 15, 2016 07:24 AM (0IhFx)

59 Let 'we the people' decide the direction of the court.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 07:23 AM

"We the people" DID decide the direction of the Court...by voting for Choom Boy. Twice.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 07:25 AM (iW5Mq)

60 I thought it was weird that the news reports would very carefully say, "Was found dead" instead of "died of."

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 07:26 AM (c+gwp)

61 "Has Bitch McConnell figured out how to screw up this opportunity to prevent Obama from appointing Scalia's replacement yet?"

It's 7:30am, on a federal holiday.

Dude isn't even up yet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:26 AM (ptqRm)

62 Has Bitch McConnell figured out how to screw up this opportunity to prevent Obama from appointing Scalia's replacement yet?>>>

Bitch is gonna get Borked.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 15, 2016 07:26 AM (P/aDH)

63 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

"Shut up," they explained.

Posted by: V the K at February 15, 2016 07:28 AM (O7MnT)

64
Awaiting whatever weather comes today. Svhools are off here in DE, as are gubmint workers.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, "Who Decides?" at February 15, 2016 07:28 AM (BK3ZS)

65 51 I am pretty sure that an originality reading the plain text if the US Constitution in Article 2 Section 2 would be able to find anything that says in the last year of a four year term the POTUS should not nominate a new Supreme
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It's not spelled out expressly (just like the rights to privacy, abortion, gay marriage, etc., are not spelled out expressly), but it's obviously there. It emanates from the penumbras, just like all those unspecified lefty rights do!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2016 07:29 AM (df5V4)

66 Morning, all!
Technically we survived Valentines Day, but hubby's been sick in bed for a week (insert frowny face here).

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 07:30 AM (NOIQH)

67 MLK>Washington/Lincoln

Can we decide once and for all which Republican's birthday to celebrate nationally? I'd like to add Ronald Reagan's (Feb 6) to the list of early holidays.

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2016 07:30 AM (w/iDp)

68 Gee Terry, I don't know. An originality reading might come up with some very surprising results.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 15, 2016 07:31 AM (L7nbe)

69 G'morning all.
Woke up to an inch of white powder everywhere (not the good kind) and another day in the twenties.
But it's supposed to get up to mid 40's by afternoon, so it should all be a memory in a few hours.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2016 07:32 AM (OUpHg)

70 "It emanates from the penumbras, just like all those unspecified lefty rights do!"

Emanates?

I thought it emitted from Uranus?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:32 AM (ptqRm)

71 Going into Iraq and 9/11 are separate events (I did not say unrelated). How is Bush responsible for 9/11 in the 8 months he was in office?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:35 AM (U+nHb)

72
35 Drudge seems to be trying to stir up a Scalia was murdered meme.

That would be horrible.
Posted by: blaster

It truly would, not least because it would revive the mawkishly awful Grisham flick, The Pelican Brief, with the simperingly stupid Julia Roberts.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, at February 15, 2016 07:35 AM (BK3ZS)

73 Trump, on average according to RCP, is still up by 20 points.

Doesn't look like he is hurting.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 07:36 AM (WVsWD)

74 In South Carolina that is.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 07:36 AM (WVsWD)

75 Top 100?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (/ciMI)

76 "We the people" DID decide the direction of the Court...by voting for Choom Boy. Twice.Posted by: MrScribbler

In an abstract way, yes.

This is LINE IN THE SAND extinction level event.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (fbovC)

77 I thought it emitted from Uranus?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:32 AM (ptqRm)
________________________

The rights to privacy, abortion, and gay marriage were pulled from the anuses of five idiot justices, but they made up the part about invisible emanations from unseen penumbras to make themselves feel better about their flagrant violations of their sworn oath to uphold the constitution.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (df5V4)

78 Don't know how much to believe in RCP, they have O-rube beating hillary.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (WVsWD)

79 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

--

They won't. It will be a complete gloss-over. His comments are shameful, and give me great pause pulling the lever for him, should he get the nom. More so now than ever before.

But his rabid supporters will ignore it. Like they do all of his very suspect comments. And here I had to go and have high hopes for this election. Dummy me.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (pVkEV)

80 "Doesn't look like he is hurting"

Too bad. I really tried to keep an open mind about the guy, but he's just an asshole.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 07:37 AM (u5gzz)

81 I think the "Pillow over his head" actually meant above his head, higher towards the headboard, with his head on the mattress, instead of the pillow.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:38 AM (ptqRm)

82 So...is it a big snow storm along the mid-Atlantic?
Is N. VA getting hit?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 07:39 AM (NOIQH)

83 The only gop'er that RCP has winning against either donktard is the rube-meister.

Go figure.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 07:40 AM (WVsWD)

84 It's going to be in the 90s the next couple of days. Hate it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 15, 2016 07:40 AM (iQIUe)

85 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

1. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch - let's hear the argument that it didn't.

2. There were no WMDs - let's hear the argument that there were.

(drums fingers on desk)

Posted by: SinceUAsked at February 15, 2016 07:41 AM (HMt16)

86 How is Bush responsible for 9/11 in the 8 months he was in office?
______________________

Not saying he was totally or even mostly responsible, but he did leave in place the idiotic rules adopted during the Clinton administration that prevented the sharing of intelligence between federal agencies. Also, he failed to act on the intelligence that was available in the summer months of 2001, all of which indicated a major attack was imminent (remember the intelligence experts back then saying "the system was blinking red"?)

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2016 07:42 AM (df5V4)

87 I'm with Prager. Trump has never shown a consistent moral code. I do, however, agree with him on immigration and it's a VERY important issue.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:42 AM (U+nHb)

88 I've changed my mind about Kanye West. I am now pro Kanye; he just puts out too much unintentional humour to hate him.

Latest is he took to TWITTER to tell Mark Zuckerburg that he ought to loan him a billion.

Heh.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 15, 2016 07:42 AM (L7nbe)

89 Obama doesn't have to nominate a hard lefty to the court. If he put's on another squish like Kennedy or Roberts, it's all over. You can guarantee that one of the three would go with the four liberal voting block.

New proposal for the SC, all members must be graduates from a different university. No more than four can be from schools within 400 miles of each other. It's time to break the Ivy's.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 07:43 AM (LTDSy)

90 It's Lincoln's Birthday/President's Day. I assume everyone is off today anyway?

Well, I am because I always take Monday off, but school bus driving spouse had to drive kids to school today because they already had too much time off for snow days.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 07:44 AM (w4NZ8)

91 "It's going to be in the 90s the next couple of days. Hate it."

Damn, sux being you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:44 AM (ptqRm)

92 OK, I just got up and haven't skimmed the posts yet, so I'm sure this has been said a hundred times over (though it's not going to stop me from saying it):

The left wants Scalia's replacement now now now! while Bitch McCocksickle swears he'll never allow an Obama SCOTUS replacement.

So what do the rest of you think - whichever lunatic, Constitutionally-illiterate, racist POS Obama puts up will be confirmed by the GOPe by March 1 at the latest?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 15, 2016 07:44 AM (GUDMx)

93 There absolutely were WMD they were used on the KURDS, and moved during the 16 months we waited to invade.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:44 AM (U+nHb)

94 I think the "Pillow over his head" actually meant above his head, higher towards the headboard, with his head on the mattress, instead of the pillow.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:38 AM (ptqRm)

That's a rather tortured explanation. He might have slept with a pillow over his head like a lot of people do. Doesn't mean foul play.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 07:45 AM (LTDSy)

95 81 I think the "Pillow over his head" actually meant above his head, higher towards the headboard, with his head on the mattress, instead of the pillow.
________________________

Also, he could have had the pillow leaning against the headboard and it just fell forward onto his head while he was sleeping. That happens to me sometimes, and I wake up with a pillow on my head.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2016 07:46 AM (df5V4)

96 There absolutely were WMD they were used on the KURDS, and moved during the 16 months we waited to invade.Posted by: Seems legit

Also the nine year long Iran-Iraq war was filled with chemical weapons.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 07:46 AM (fbovC)

97 Posted by: SinceUAsked at February 15, 2016 07:41 AM (HMt16)

Trump has played directly into the Democrats' hands by claiming "Bush Lied."

They all supported the Iraq war. It was a mistake. This allows them to dodge their responsibility.

Trump is an asshole.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 07:47 AM (u5gzz)

98
The problem is that a 4-4 tie means that the lower court decision is the one that stands.

Of course, if Ruth Buzzi-Ginsburg is found with a pillow over her face....

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 15, 2016 07:48 AM (oVJmc)

99 82 So...is it a big snow storm along the mid-Atlantic?
Is N. VA getting hit?
Posted by: Lizzy
------------------
I don't know. Honestly, I wasn't expecting the inch we got overnight (Norfolk/VAB), but it will all be melted by late afternoon.

But last blizzard, we only got an a dusting here while NoVa got 1 to 2 feet.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2016 07:50 AM (OUpHg)

100 My hot water heater took a dump last night. I had planning to proactively replace it as it is >15 years old. Of course never got around to it

So waiting for contractor today..

I quickly looked into those tankless systems which seem cool but at 5 times the price, not worth it to me.

Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2016 07:50 AM (nCSwS)

101 There absolutely were WMD they were used on the KURDS, and moved during the 16 months we waited to invade.
Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:44 AM (U+nHb)

Maybe, but Bush listening to Rovian brilliance never made the case after the invasion. Did Bush lie, no. Did he bungle the war, yes.

I was for deposing Hussein. I wasn't for nation building which Bush presidents seem to be intent to do. Iraq never is going to be stable unless either it has a dictator or we (the American people) are willing to stay there several decades with a significant military presence to make them do what we want.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 07:52 AM (LTDSy)

102 Latest is he took to TWITTER to tell Mark Zuckerburg that he ought to loan him a billion.
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It's funny that West is $50+ million in debt. How did he manage that? The ugly-ass shoes and clothes he designs are quite expensive.

And I hope West isn't holding his breath waiting for Zuckerberg to bail him out of financial trouble. I don't think even Zuckerberg is dumb enough to do that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 15, 2016 07:53 AM (df5V4)

103 Here in ILL most of the state employees are enjoying the end of their four-day weekend, with the Lincoln's birthday/President's Day combo.

Well, for us lesser pigs, at least the commute will be light.

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 07:54 AM (c+gwp)

104 @97 That's simply not true.

By coming out so forcefully against the Iraq war and pointless American military engagement generally, he's taken away potential attacks from his Democrat opponents.

In fact if Hillary is the nominee he can actually use her voting for the war against her.

And anyone defending W or the Bush families sacred honor is insane quite frankly.

And Trump is quite frankly the most sane person running for the presidency.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2016 07:54 AM (qM9Xi)

105 Morning all

Shit we are still fighting Gulf War 2?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:54 AM (mw8Dm)

106 And Trump is quite frankly the most sane person running for the presidency.
Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2016 07:54 AM (qM9Xi)

Now that's funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:55 AM (mw8Dm)

107 Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 07:52 AM (LTDSy)

I agree. But we're getting far afield from my original comment which was Trump placing blame for 9/11 on Bush. It was pathetic pandering to the left.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:55 AM (U+nHb)

108
And Trump is quite frankly the most sane person running for the presidency.
Posted by: Kreplach
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So, it's going to be one of those days again?
Might as well go make breakfast. Coffee or bloody marys?

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2016 07:56 AM (OUpHg)

109 It was pathetic pandering to the left.
Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:55 AM (U+nHb)

And down right fuckin crazy shit. Made me want to puke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:57 AM (mw8Dm)

110 hmmm, according to Rightscoop the Bush internal poll on SC has the race much tighter with T=26, C=24, J=12, R=11.

http://tinyurl.com/j4bw9uc

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 15, 2016 07:57 AM (gyKtp)

111 Coffee or bloody marys?
Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2016 07:56 AM (OUpHg)

Since I have patients all day i have to stick to coffee. If you don't, I'd go with the Bloody marys

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:57 AM (mw8Dm)

112 Hoo boy, politics makes people say crazy shit. Politicians and their supporters. Step back from the emotional investment just a bit.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:58 AM (U+nHb)

113 I'll take Cruz as a second choice, but his political pedigree is the Bush Dynasty

???

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 15, 2016 07:58 AM (rwI+c)

114 hmmm, according to Rightscoop the Bush internal poll on SC has the race much tighter with T=26, C=24, J=12, R=11.

http://tinyurl.com/j4bw9uc
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 15, 2016 07:57 AM (gyKtp)

Yeah but I "assume" all internal polls can be bullshit. The las t poll I saw still has Trump way ahead. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:59 AM (mw8Dm)

115 105 Morning all

Shit we are still fighting Gulf War 2?

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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It's been going on since the debate.
G'morin' back at ya.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2016 07:59 AM (OUpHg)

116 Is meth an option?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:59 AM (U+nHb)

117 I agree. But we're getting far afield from my original comment which was Trump placing blame for 9/11 on Bush. It was pathetic pandering to the left.
Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 07:55 AM (U+nHb)

I agree there. But expecting Trump to have a nuanced position is like expecting Rubio to be human and not a sound bite spewing robot.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 08:00 AM (LTDSy)

118
@102 It's funny that West is $50+ million in debt. How did he manage that? The ugly-ass shoes and clothes he designs are quite expensive.

Keeping Kim's butt covered is pricey...that's a lot of real estate.

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:00 AM (c+gwp)

119 "In fact if Hillary is the nominee he can actually use her voting for the war against her."

This is nonsensical. If "Bush lied," then Hillary was his victim and she has no responsibility for her vote.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 08:00 AM (u5gzz)

120 So, it's going to be one of those days again?
Might as well go make breakfast. Coffee or bloody marys?

Yeah, I think I'll go have some breakfast, too. See you all later. Have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 15, 2016 08:01 AM (GUDMx)

121 113 I'll take Cruz as a second choice, but his political pedigree is the Bush Dynasty

???
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 15, 2016 07:58 AM (rwI+c)

I think he met his wife while working for W ?

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:02 AM (c+gwp)

122 W's campaign, as a schlub, vol, whatever, I mean.

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:03 AM (c+gwp)

123
Cruz-Bush-Rubio-Trump-blah, blah, blah, blah....

I've sooooooooo got this entire thing...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 15, 2016 08:03 AM (HSmrB)

124 I think he met his wife while working for W ?
Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:02 AM (c+gwp)

Well that qualifies for burning at the stake right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:03 AM (mw8Dm)

125 Would any Venezuelans like the crumbs out of my toaster?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:04 AM (ieoTI)

126 So had a good weekend, given my personal issues at home. I took a couple of my kids on an encampment on the USS New Jersey, one of our battleships that is now a museum ship in Camden NJ. We arrived Saturday afternoon and slept on the ship. The volunteers made us dinner (and breakfast) in the galley, we sat in the chow line, ate in the mess, etc. There were really knowledgeable docents giving the guided tours in the evening (ours was a WWII/Korea veteran). Lots of history in The Black Dragon.

Fantastic time.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:04 AM (eytER)

127 @119

Trump will simply steamroll that narrative.

The last person Hillary wants to run against is Trump.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2016 08:04 AM (qM9Xi)

128 Scalia lost a pillow fight?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:05 AM (ieoTI)

129 Did not Cruz argue against the W administration in a US Supreme Court case for the execution of an illegal immigrant convicted of murder where the administration wanted the perp sent back to his country instead?

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 15, 2016 08:05 AM (sJuKe)

130 Sean Pee Diddly is conflicted that his ancestor was not a slave.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jxmbero

Loss of street cred?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 15, 2016 08:06 AM (P/aDH)

131 hmmm, according to Rightscoop the Bush internal poll on SC has the race much tighter with T=26, C=24, J=12, R=11.

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Before or after the factoring in of Dem crossovers?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 15, 2016 08:06 AM (pVkEV)

132 "Trump will simply steamroll that narrative."

Trump has joined the Dem narrative. He's going to "steamroll" his own narrative now? This just doesn't make sense.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 08:07 AM (u5gzz)

133 Trump sounded absolutely crazy. No getting around that. Seriously, off his rocker. Cruz still has that 1950's used car salesman smell, though he is improving a little. Rubio sounds like Eddie Haskell. Kasich sounded like the reliable budget-cutter he is, but he sure as hell doesn't sound like the voice of retribution against the left I am looking for. So, I don't like any of them.

Posted by: MTF at February 15, 2016 08:07 AM (TxJGV)

134 Venezuelans like the crumbs out of my toaster?
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:04 AM (ieoTI)

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I can't wait to hear Sean Penn tell us how great South American socialism is working.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 08:07 AM (U+nHb)

135 yeah their were old chem weapons that were found, some moved or dumped in the river ... so Bush loyalists can retort "oh yes there were WMD's"

But we were sold on the nuke program that didn't really exist. Maybe Saddam wanted his enemies to believe he had it, but Nukes were the real sales pitch.

I was on board till they "refused" to win, or however it should be phrased. The surge maybe we decided to fight more than winning hearts, but the purple finger election yielded a president more aligned with Iran, and Kurds suffered. We tried to play politics with jihadists on every side (except maybe the Kurds, and we treated them worst it would seem).

But no, there was no advance nuke WMD program, just the old chemical crap. Not what we were sold on. There is no doubt much more mysterious intrigue than we know, but the globalists seem to set the agenda. The Bush Dynasty globalists, or the commie Dem globalists ... we need an America First president in any case.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:07 AM (5Gpe2)

136 Would any Venezuelans like the crumbs out of my toaster?

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*chants*

We want socialism! We want socialism! We want socialism!!11!

Posted by: Spoiled American Milennials at February 15, 2016 08:09 AM (pVkEV)

137 A bloody sounds good to me... gotta run for the train, though.

Be nice to each other... all this fighting in the fox hole is depressing, as it was probably calculated to be. Sometimes I feel like we're the trolls being egged on by Gandalf. Sigh.

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:09 AM (c+gwp)

138 Shit we are still fighting Gulf War 2?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 07:54 AM

If you want to be really accurate, the problem stems from Gulf War I. Daddy Bush didn't have the stones to carry through to the logical conclusion. Which would have cost fewer lives and less money....

But then you could extend the trail back to Truman and the Korean "police action," I suppose.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 08:10 AM (iW5Mq)

139 Bill, Hillary, Albright, Kerry, etc. were all shrieking about Iraqi NBC capabilities before W even announced his candidacy. Check quotes from around 1998, you'll find plenty. If anything, Clinton's regime lied to Bush.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 15, 2016 08:10 AM (2cS/G)

140 Idle thought, but during the W administration there were still a fair number of conservatives who bought into the strategy that working within the Establishment was a viable strategy.

In other words, just because someone worked for W doesn't automatically destroy one's conservative cred, but it does merit a certain skepticism and a closer look.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:10 AM (PFy0L)

141 At least they still have TP for their bungholes, no wait.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:11 AM (ieoTI)

142 In the good news category, CBS St. Louis news has new videos (from police bodycams) showing Melissa Click being a bitch towards the cops; the U of M head is making unhappy noises in her direction.

http://tinyurl.com/hckv2fk

Maybe that suspension will turn into a regular firing. Meh, then Columbia U will hire her on. She's right up their alley, ideology wise.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 15, 2016 08:11 AM (gyKtp)

143 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 15, 2016 08:13 AM (ZQfW9)

144 Good moroning, everyone. Slight bit of snow on the ground, hopefully will clear up in a while.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 15, 2016 08:14 AM (B8JRQ)

145 "Trump has joined the Dem narrative. He's going to "steamroll" his own narrative now? This just doesn't make sense."

No. Trump has his own narrative.
"Blame (white Christian male) America First" is the Dem narrative.

"America First" on Trade and controlled/limited immigration is the Trump mantra.

That is the opposite of the commie Democrats.
This establishment agitprop that seeing mistakes in Iraq is the same as "joining" the Dems is nonsense. The loyalism to Bush is nice I guess, but some independent thinking is in order.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:14 AM (5Gpe2)

146 She's right up their alley, ideology wise. Posted by: GnuBreed at February 15, 2016 08:11 AM

Is that enough to get her on the Supreme Court?

Choom Boy's biggest problem will be picking from so many "perfect" candidates. Between Muzzies, felons, lefty wack-jobs and their enablers, he's got a deep pool to choose from.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 08:15 AM (iW5Mq)

147 Well at 10am Central meet up with the writer who has the 900+ page epic WWII novel.

Hopefully things go smashingly well.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:15 AM (nzaaz)

148 124 I think he met his wife while working for W ?
Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:02 AM (c+gwp)

Well that qualifies for burning at the stake right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:03 AM (mw8Dm)

No, no, no - just wondering if that's where the "he's from Bush Dynasty" impression comes from.

Cruz is my guy.

Posted by: Gem at February 15, 2016 08:15 AM (c+gwp)

149 IMHO, the takeaway from Iraq is the treasonous (as usual) actions of Lefty. Near unanimous support at the start, then no lie or scheme was beneath them to undermine my country (Vietnam playbook redux).
What would the world look like today without Lefty's conniving here?
That nice pincer of strong, sustained American presence in Iraq and Afghanistan with Iran in the middle sure would have been helpful, I can only think.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 15, 2016 08:16 AM (sJuKe)

150 Starting tomorrow, HotAir.com going to Facebook comment system

I wish em luck. I know I'm outta there.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 15, 2016 08:17 AM (e8kgV)

151 Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:14 AM (5Gpe2)

Dude. Trump joined the "Bush lied" Democrat narrative. It's the narrative they use to avoid their share of the responsibility for the Iraq war.

I'm trying to avoid the usual name-calling here, but I have to say you have zero standing to lecture me on "independent thinking."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2016 08:17 AM (u5gzz)

152 Can Ted Cruz clone himself? One clone on the Supreme Court, one President.

Posted by: mega machines at February 15, 2016 06:44 AM (fbovC)

That would be cool:-)

Then we could also clone Miguel Cebrera and his clones could bat before and after him.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:18 AM (NPofj)

153 That sounds like fun, VA GOP Sucks!
* * *

So...anyone watch The Walking Dead last night?
The opening scene was, uh, explosive

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:18 AM (NOIQH)

154 Stating facts does not equal loyalism to Bush.

I'm starting to understand what people are saying about politians and their supporters. It's an "all in" emotional investment.

Mistake because all politicians will kick you in the the nads.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 08:20 AM (U+nHb)

155 >>Starting tomorrow, HotAir.com going to Facebook comment system

Oh, #Winning!
There's a reason AoSHQ comments are so fun.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:20 AM (NOIQH)

156

Then we could also clone Miguel Cebrera and his clones could bat before and after him.

Or we could clone Jordy Nelson and the Packers could get back to some decent defense.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:20 AM (DLIpz)

157 My side, your side. MY SIDE, YOUR SIDE.

Anyone who thought Bush's first term was a success and voted for him for a second term, was just as foolishly partisan as anyone who voted for Obama for a first term and then voted for him again for a second.

Bush was a failed president - electing him again was stupid.

Posted by: dzikipole at February 15, 2016 08:22 AM (JeNJK)

158 I like George Bush. So there.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:22 AM (DLIpz)

159 I'm trying to avoid the usual name-calling here, but I have to say you have zero standing to lecture me on "independent thinking."

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+1

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 08:22 AM (U+nHb)

160 Um, why are we arguing the Bush presidency again?
This accomplishes nothing. It's what ISIS wants, or...something.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:23 AM (NOIQH)

161 Bush was a failed president - electing him again was stupid.
Posted by: dzikipole at February 15, 2016 08:22 AM (JeNJK)

Yeah voting for Kerry would have been so much better??????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:23 AM (mw8Dm)

162 Snow kept me from getting to booze vendor, therefore spared from alcohol poisoning.

Now what?

And LOL@hotair for moving to facebook commenting.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 15, 2016 08:23 AM (OvUux)

163 I'm stupid. And good morning, person who's nic I can't pronounce.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:24 AM (DLIpz)

164 "Daddy Bush didn't have the stones to carry through to the logical
conclusion. Which would have cost fewer lives and less money...." scribbler

yeah I certainly screamed for that at the time. I'm less sure now, unless we established a base and mostly ran things. And all the secret deals with various supreme leaders, and globalist visions and sugar plum fairies. So many big money secret deals, with America First not a priority, perhaps.

We kept the Saudis in business, and thought that was essential for the global economy ... maybe. Some pigs profited more than others.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:24 AM (5Gpe2)

165 Well when president putz puts another commie on the supreme court, there goes the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 15, 2016 06:55 AM (I0sxh)

There goes everything. If McCocksickle does not play against type
and block any appointment until after 1/20/17 then he will have
effectively rendered Congress obsolete and irrelevant.

The Executive and the Bureaucracy will enact laws by fiat or
regulation and the Judiciary will be a rubber stamp. That is, for
Democrat administrations.

A GOP executive can expect the Bureaucracy to continue to legislate
via regulations and the leftist Judiciary to uphold those regs and
neutralize any attempt by a GOP president to stop it.

Game, set, match. RIP America as founded.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 07:01 AM (zLP1L)

Guys now is absolutely NOT the time for pessimism and defeatism. No is the time to fight and win. Obama is a whole lot more likely to get what he wants if we go into this thinking he will. such an attitude enervates... since we need all of our strength to fight, that is a bad, bad thing.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:24 AM (NPofj)

166 There's a reason AoSHQ comments are so fun. Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:20 AM

I'd say there are several reasons for choosing the HQ over Tepid Air. T'ain't just one. And most of said reasons are more important than the site joining the FB crowd.

Had to go look, and see that the Poppin' Fresh fans aren't particularly happy about it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 08:25 AM (iW5Mq)

167 Lets reserve our cabins now. Titanic II sets sail in 2018.

http://www.ufunk.net/en/design/titanic-ii/

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:26 AM (nzaaz)

168 I think I am going to charge my patients a heat surcharge today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:26 AM (mw8Dm)

169 Facebook commenting at Hot Air? Do they want to get shut down?

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 15, 2016 08:26 AM (MIKMs)

170 153 That was awesome.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:26 AM (ieoTI)

171 Guys now is absolutely NOT the time for pessimism and defeatism. No is
the time to fight and win. Obama is a whole lot more likely to get what
he wants if we go into this thinking he will. such an attitude
enervates... since we need all of our strength to fight, that is a bad,
bad thing.

Not that I disagree, but what in McConnell's history would give one any kind of optimism that he would stand up against Obama's nomination?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:27 AM (PFy0L)

172 I thought this was a nice, encouraging reflection-An attitude of gratitude:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zsvxnvz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:28 AM (w4NZ8)

173 Spouse took the 9 yr-old grandson to a local state park for a program by Buffalo Soldier re-enacators. had a good time, learned some history. Accurate history, too, b/c he is a TX history whiz.

Family B-days on Sunday- a big dinner, cake and present openings. Our Nana, who's 91, now has to read the grace instead of winging it to her chagrin, but we're so blessed to have her with us.

Friends had their seventh baby (a lovely sixth daughter) after a rough pregnancy.

So, a good weekend. And may we all have a good week.

Posted by: Sal at February 15, 2016 08:28 AM (MRX6w)

174 Posted by: Sal at February 15, 2016 08:28 AM (MRX6w)

That sounds fantastic.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:29 AM (DLIpz)

175 Then we could also clone Miguel Cebrera and his clones could bat before and after him.

Or we could clone Jordy Nelson and the Packers could get back to some decent defense.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:20 AM (DLIpz)

That would be cool, too, grammie... now who else is worth cloning? Hmmmmmm....

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:29 AM (NPofj)

176 167 What could go wrong?

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2016 08:30 AM (B48dK)

177 Hey guys, can I hide out here?

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at February 15, 2016 08:30 AM (mw8Dm)

178 Expect a deluge of HA readers coming over here.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 15, 2016 08:30 AM (iQIUe)

179 You would need several Tony Romo clones to make it through a season.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:30 AM (ieoTI)

180 yeah I certainly screamed for that at the time. I'm
less sure now, unless we established a base and mostly ran things. Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:24 AM

If anything, I'm more sure now. And I thought pulling back and letting Saddam stay in power was dumb at the time.

But then I'm an old-fashioned guy: when you fight wars you ought to win them. Otherwise, the whole exercise is pointless.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 08:31 AM (iW5Mq)

181 I have largely given up on politics and this place is still fun.No other "political" site is like this place.

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2016 08:31 AM (B48dK)

182 Gonna be a long day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:31 AM (mw8Dm)

183 Shoot I meant offense. Seems I really am stupid after all.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:31 AM (DLIpz)

184 With the Horde aboard?

SMOD will show up.

Sweet Microbes of Death aka Norovirus.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:31 AM (nzaaz)

185 I hope it's not an exact exact replica.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM (ieoTI)

186 And I thought pulling back and letting Saddam stay in power was dumb at the time.

Yup..Thank you Colin Powell

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM (mw8Dm)

187 Thanks for not going to a Facebook comment system. I know it is an easy way to get a reliable comment system, but sometimes I just want to be known as Picric, not Denny Kerns the Electron Microscopist/Farmer.

Posted by: Picric at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM (QnQ+g)

188 Commenter Number Nine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM (ieoTI)

189 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Firehooks and Rock-salt for sale at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM (kff5f)

190 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Firehooks and Rock-salt for sale at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (kff5f)

191 "Dude. Trump joined the "Bush lied" Democrat narrative. It's the
narrative they use to avoid their share of the responsibility for the
Iraq war.

I'm trying to avoid the usual name-calling here, but I have to say
you have zero standing to lecture me on "independent thinking."

"Bush lied" is two words. Trump in 2004 was against trying to democratize the ME. That was ahead of many Democrats. In any case, he can think for himself and agreeing on some points is not "joining the Dem narrative".

Trump obviously has America First reasons that are much different than the commie/globalist Dem "narratives".

As to your opinion of my standing ... who issues the standings around here? But Ace has standing I guess, he mentioned the voter's ego on the Bush War thing. In any case, I'm not claiming authority by way of my standing. Take it for what it's worth ... sheesh.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (5Gpe2)

192 Pitchers and catchers report this week. Life is about to get gooder.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (DLIpz)

193 How goes the book sales AllenG?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (nzaaz)

194 Cold and snowy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:34 AM (ieoTI)

195 HotAir becomes even less attractive. Pfeh.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 15, 2016 08:34 AM (oVJmc)

196 So... I don't remember who it was, but someone pointed out that the gut-shot we all feel at the passing of Justice Scalia is just yet more proof of the fact we (collectively) have given way too much power to a bunch of un-elected, unaccountable judges.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:34 AM (kff5f)

197 This AM FOX had what they advertised as a Carrier Worker on to comment on the Carrier move to Mexico. Now regardless of what you think of that move, he was not a "worker" he was a UNION rep. It was pure bullshit. I wonder what the "Union" was demanding that forced Carrier to move to Mexico?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:34 AM (mw8Dm)

198 As long as it isn't an exact exact replica of James Cameron's Titanic we should be okay. Though that might be a cool game to have aboard - Push Jack into the Freezing Water.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:35 AM (nzaaz)

199 Pitchers and catchers report this week. Life is about to get gooder.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (DLIpz)

Predictions on the Cubs this year? Was last year a fluke or do they do it again?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 15, 2016 08:35 AM (WVsWD)

200 Last check was 20 - something.

I was hoping the book thread would do better for me... But now I need people to start writing reviews.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:35 AM (kff5f)

201 196 Yes indeed,they have entirely too much power over our lives.

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2016 08:35 AM (B48dK)

202 "How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?"

Not an instinctive defender of the short-fingered vulgarian, but Trump's case boils down to a pair of assertions.

To wit, (a) that 9/11 was preventable but Bush wasn't taking the situation seriously, and (b) that Bush presented intelligence on Iraq to the public which purported to be rock solid, but was in reality as flimsy as wet tissue paper, an act which Trump characterized as a lie.

I view both assertions as a stretch. But not a very long stretch. Pretty short, in truth. Within the reasonable margin of political rhetoric.

Bush in point of fact was not taking the situation seriously before 9/11. Little remembered and less remarked is that immediately before the attacks, Bush's hand-picked head of the Justice Department had just released the administration's budget and priorities document for DoJ. It slashed funds for already quite scant counterterrorism efforts to instead prioritize fighting the scourge of Internet pornography. There are several other such examples.

As for the intelligence on Iraq, when the two primary sources ("Curveball" and Chalabi) were _both_ flagrantly obvious confidence men, about whom repeated concerns and demurrals had been voiced within the intel community, I submit that it's not unreasonable to characterize intel analysis based on a series of glaring lies as being itself a lie.

I'm much much much more concerned about Trump having voiced effusive praise in the past for the corrupt nitwit Bela Pelosi as "impressive" than I am about Trump calling Dubya a liar.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 08:35 AM (noWW6)

203 We didn't give them power.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:36 AM (ieoTI)

204 191 Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:33 AM (5Gpe2)

There is a huge difference between being of the opinion that going into Iraq was a mistake and Bush intentionally lied to get us to invade Iraq.

The latter is what Mr. Trump said. Loudly and proudly. That is, to put it mildly, unacceptable.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:36 AM (zLP1L)

205 Yup..Thank you Colin Powell

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:32 AM

What a piece of work he is/was.

Despite numerous protestations to the contrary in Schwarzkopf's book, I got the distinct impression that Stormin' Norman would have busted Powell's ass to buck private in a big hurry if their roles had been reversed.

It just HAS to suck when you plan and prepare a victorious strategy and your boss makes you shut it down because Good Optics.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 08:36 AM (iW5Mq)

206 So...is it a big snow storm along the mid-Atlantic?
Is N. VA getting hit?

There is about three inches of snow in my part of Fairfax County.

Posted by: no good deed at February 15, 2016 08:37 AM (GgxVX)

207 Tim in Illinois - I think they have a solid team, even with some of the trades theyve made. We shall see. Last year was awesome although they broke my heart at the end. As usual.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:38 AM (DLIpz)

208 A few inches in Centaur Virginia also.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:38 AM (ieoTI)

209 Hey don't knock twenty, it is a start.

My ratio of sales to reviews is less than 10%. Not sure if that is normal or not.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:38 AM (nzaaz)

210 Laura Ingraham has a good take on Trump vs Bush Dynasty.
It is a battle he needs to fight, so lets make the most of it.
http://tinyurl.com/zlqb3u8

By
2008 many were fed up with "not winning", to put it mildly, when Trump
applauded the Pelosi desire to impeach Bush. Trump back in 2004 was
already being outspoken against trying to democratize the Middle East.
He looks prescient now, but is still despised for it by loyalists.

In
the debate Trump blamed Clinton first, then said Bush also had a shot
at bin Laden. Most of "us" thought the yellow cake and multi-purpose
tubes for centrifuges was slight evidence of a real nuke program, but
were OK with that "lie" or exaggeration if stabilizing Iraq was in our
strategic interest. But over time we failed to win and now some must
beat their chest to defend Bush. Isn't that partly what Ace's ego post
was about ... the ego voters have in defending the Iraq War?

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 07:24 AM (5Gpe2)
That is some grade A Monday morning quarterbacking and kinda ahistorical. In any situation you make the best decisions with the information you have then.The best information that Bush had then indicated that going into Iraq was the right move. Whether that information turned out to be faulty kinda doesn't matter to the decision at the time (I think it wasn't faulty and Assad got a shitload of bad stuff shipped to him with a note that said "Hugs and Kisses, Saddam").

Either way, Trump was a Code-Pink loon back then for calling for impeachment and now for blaming Bush personally for the 9-11 attacks.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:39 AM (NPofj)

211 165 Guys now is absolutely NOT the time for pessimism and defeatism. No is the time to fight and win. Obama is a whole lot more likely to get what he wants if we go into this thinking he will. such an attitude enervates... since we need all of our strength to fight, that is a bad, bad thing.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:24 AM (NPofj)

I hate to burst your bubble, but I am not Mitch McConnell, nor am I several divisions of the army wh can go into DC, arrest everyone and declare martial law and the Democrat party dissolved.

Nice thoughts you have, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:39 AM (zLP1L)

212 We didn't give them power.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:36 AM (ieoTI)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but we did, and continue to do so. Every time we act in line with another one of their obviously unconstitutional edicts (say... upholding Obamacare, just to name one) we submit further to their authority.

That is not to say that any specific person, or even specific group of people (under a certain threshold) has any power to stop it, but pretending we're not doing it isn't going to help things.

And "we" collectively most certainly did. I may not be responsible for the sins of my fathers, but I most certainly have to live with the consequences thereof.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:40 AM (kff5f)

213 The two year old smells suspiciously bad. Brb

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 08:40 AM (DLIpz)

214 Despite numerous protestations to the contrary in Schwarzkopf's book, I got the distinct impression that Stormin' Norman would have busted Powell's ass to buck private in a big hurry if their roles had been reversed.

I'd love to really investigate his Military Record and see if it was "real" or well let's say "layered in Gold and not real gold". Sometimes people are pushed up the chain just because they of their color or sex.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:40 AM (mw8Dm)

215 Some early morning art

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/selection-du-weekend-179-30.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:40 AM (nzaaz)

216 "15
How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 15, 2016 06:52 AM (U+nHb)"

Oh, that's easy. There is no God but Trump and Trump is his prophet. Death to the infidels.

Posted by: Rabid Trump supporters everywhere at February 15, 2016 08:41 AM (QHgTq)

217 Thanks for the VA snow updates - sounds like it wasn't a repeat of a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:41 AM (NOIQH)

218 Odds Obama picks a Muslim for SC?

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 08:41 AM (LTDSy)

219 218 Odds Obama picks a Muslim for SC?
Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 08:41 AM (LTDSy)

Some Indian dude seems to be the hot pick. Vin Vinassian something?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:42 AM (zLP1L)

220 I don't think the going into Iraq was the major mistake, HOW we went in, and HOW we conducted the War, and HOW we conducted the aftermath is the big problem. And I think President Bush, while his intentions might have been good, both got terrible advise and made some terrible decisions on those points.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:42 AM (mw8Dm)

221 Who better to defend sharia law.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:43 AM (ieoTI)

222 Vindaloo for the Supreme Court?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:43 AM (nzaaz)

223 "But then I'm an old-fashioned guy: when you fight wars you ought to win them. Otherwise, the whole exercise is pointless." mr scribbler

If we are going to "spread democracy" we have to be all in, I agree. Of course the expansionist thing perhaps has to be run more like colonialism, which was going out of favor. Maybe the corporatism had a chance of achieving some of those results, but spreading capitalism also has its problems.

This is why my theme is that the commies have been taking over domestically, so they undercut and long term efforts to "democratize" the world, as in the sellout of Vietnam and our allies there that fought with us. Now I'm reading how Eisenhower (on orders) held back in Czechoslovakia so the Russkies could take control post WW2, per secret deal. They had fought with us as well.

So many "strategic" deals. I certainly don't have the whole picture yet, but hard to imagine going on in and running Iraq in 1991 could have been worse than what happened instead. We'd have to take our cut of the oil though, as Trump suggested way back. And many in the region hated that concept ... but I'm over my head on all that history. barely got through "Whirlwind".

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 08:43 AM (5Gpe2)

224 Feather or Dot?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:43 AM (ieoTI)

225 Beautiful pictures of America taken by this couple on their RVing trips across the country. Don't be put off by the initial "Want to purchase this video?" bit. It's gone in a minute and then you get the lovely photos set to the tune of "America The Beautiful":

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yqyotb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (w4NZ8)

226 Hey don't knock twenty, it is a start.

My ratio of sales to reviews is less than 10%. Not sure if that is normal or not.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:38 AM (nzaaz)

I'm trying to get up the scratch to buy a bunch of author copies (we've had some financial knocks in the last several months, so that's harder than I had originally anticipated). Once I succeed, I'm going to see about heading to a local Half-Price Books- they'll let local authors do sales & signings sometimes.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (kff5f)

227 "This AM FOX had what they advertised as a Carrier Worker on to comment
on the Carrier move to Mexico. Now regardless of what you think of that
move, he was not a 'worker' he was a UNION rep. It was pure bullshit. I
wonder what the 'Union' was demanding that forced Carrier to move to
Mexico?"

Carrier's labor affiliation is via the United Steelworkers.

That union backed Clinton twice while Clinton signed all those alphabet-soup trade deals: NAFTA, GATT, MFN, et cetera. That union then backed Obama twice while Obama pushed to (in the words of his science adviser) "de-develop" the United States and continue to shut down as much of American manufacturing as possible.

I generally have sympathy for people whose jobs are being downsized, outsourced, and offshorted. I don't have any at all for the United Steelworkers. Hoist on their own petard.

However, as a matter of practical politics, this are the sort of optics that campaigns are foolish to ignore. Republicans should heed the Mitt Romney lesson. Don't be perceived as standoffish to working stiffs, no matter how stiff the workers's brains may be.

All this is especially rich stuff because Carrier pocketed millions of dollars in Obama porkulus money back in 2009, billed as a "green" initiative. Yet another avenue of attack.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (noWW6)

228 >>Feather or Dot?

Dot - Sri Srinivasan

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (NOIQH)

229 "I hate to burst your bubble, but I am not Mitch
McConnell, nor am I several divisions of the army wh can go into DC,
arrest everyone and declare martial law and the Democrat party
dissolved.

Nice thoughts you have, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:39 AM (zLP1L)"

Interesting proposal there. Do you think that there is a strange new respect for Salvador Allende developing?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (QHgTq)

230 HotAir becomes even less attractive. Pfeh.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 15, 2016 08:34 AM (oVJmc)

Ouch, they are going to FB comments. They don't seem to realize that a lot of people don't want their comments blasted onto their FB accounts.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 08:45 AM (LTDSy)

231 Funny picture, Anna. Thx.

We're you able top get in touch with the guy who needs a researcher for his WWII book?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:46 AM (w4NZ8)

232 Stopped reading Hot Air years ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:46 AM (ieoTI)

233 Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 08:44 AM (noWW6)

yes he was from the United SteeWorkers Union. Exactly right

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:46 AM (mw8Dm)

234 Yeah, so I didn't love Trump's specific 9/11 comment either and cringed when he said it - as much because it was rhetorically unnecessary as because I consider it untrue. That said, I think a lot of you aren't seeing the forest through the trees. His answer on Scotus was perfect, his flat out "Screw you lobbyists, I don't work for you" (to their faces on live television) is objectively one of the more impressive things to happen in US politics in a long time and his closing was excellent.

He got in a flame war with Jeb and went to far - which his Un-Trump like softening of comments over the weekend indicates to me that he realizes.

Cruz is fine with me but the best one can hope for with Cruz is a 2000 style 50.1 to 49.9 election that we eek out and then two houses of congress that hates his guts ( it's mutual back at them). Cruz is not going to move the goalposts or shift the voting coalitions that have us hurtling towards socialism - just not going to happen. Trump might - he can take populism away from the Dems for a generation.

I don't dislike the Bushes personally though I understand why many do. Let's not forget that the Bushes gave us 12 years of highly questionable republican rule for 16+ years of very destructive liberal rule. The Bushes were a net negative for conservatism in many ways.

Let me pose a hypothetical that is depressingly plausible: After much song and dance - the GOP disgracefully caves and allows Obama's SCOTUS nominee to be confirmed. They look at THE hill to die on and literally collectively flip us the bird. You are all understandably apoplectic and see that it confirms every thing written on this site in the last 18 months. A true political let it burn scenario if ever there was one. If you then, at that point don't not only vote for GOP busting SMOD incarnate but actually help to get him elected....what does that make you? What does that make all the ink spilled here for months regarding the establishment? You are going to reverse direction and hand them victory because of a ten second clip in an angry haymaker exchange of a debate?

I get it, it made you uncomfortable. We live in uncomfortable times.

Posted by: CastleP at February 15, 2016 08:46 AM (7+oeE)

235 HA jumps the shark. AOS is the last refuge for my nom de plume...

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at February 15, 2016 08:47 AM (SCcgT)

236 The next 11 months are going to be crazy and worse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (mw8Dm)

237 It appears that soon, only AoSHQ will allow anonymous comments. (if they allow comments at all)

ICYMI; Hot Air going to Facebook Comments in some unannounced time in the future.

So expect Townhall to follow. (no real loss there)

It's so pitiful how obvious some moves are.

Yet they try to dress it up as some sort of positive move that won't affect anything.

Watch their traffic take a nose dive.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (Xo1Rt)

238 Hot who.....?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (PFy0L)

239 Carrier is part of United Technologies, best known for Pratt and Whitney.
They've been de-accessioning a lot: used to own Sikorsky.

Maybe all the union types will boycott Pratt'n'Whitney. That would mean only flying on GE-powered aircraft, and GE just sold its union-employing appliance division to Haier China. Hmm. Ford/Chevy, Coke/Pepsi...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (xq1UY)

240 FenelonSpoke, got a meeting scheduled for 10am with the guy.

Not sure how much personal interaction with him I will be able to stand after talking with him on the phone. Every few minutes was hacking up his lungs when he wasn't complaining about his hearing aid batteries dying.

o.O;;;

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (nzaaz)

241 214 Despite numerous protestations to the contrary in Schwarzkopf's book, I got the distinct impression that Stormin' Norman would have busted Powell's ass to buck private in a big hurry if their roles had been reversed.

I'd love to really investigate his Military Record and see if it was "real" or well let's say "layered in Gold and not real gold". Sometimes people are pushed up the chain just because they of their color or sex.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:40 AM (mw8Dm)

Absolute certainties for $200, Alex.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at February 15, 2016 08:51 AM (zYV5P)

242 If people from "Hot Air" are going to come there I hope they are not going to be the leftist trolls they have over there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:51 AM (w4NZ8)

243 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

Posted by: Seems legit
****

He was insulating himself against being a Bush supporter!
Not quite a quote, but rather close.

Allow me to coin a new term- TWD
Trump
Worship
Derrangement

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 15, 2016 08:51 AM (hVdx9)

244 Maybe I should leave my wife and marry Carlos Mencia.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at February 15, 2016 08:52 AM (dRfkS)

245 Worse, it limits Hot Air to Facebook users.

If you won't do Facebook for whatever reason, you won't do Hot Air.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 15, 2016 08:52 AM (oVJmc)

246 Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:48 AM (nzaaz)

Oh, dear; Is he an elderly man or just unwell? Perhaps you can do research at a distance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (w4NZ8)

247 I hate to burst your bubble, but I am not Mitch
McConnell, nor am I several divisions of the army wh can go into DC,
arrest everyone and declare martial law and the Democrat party
dissolved.

Nice thoughts you have, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:39 AM (zLP1L)

No you are not and neither am I (and thank God for that in both cases). What we ARE is McConnell's boss. We need to fight and we need to keep fighting til every one of those assholes remembers who works for whom.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (NPofj)

248
Expect a deluge of HA readers coming over here.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 15, 2016 08:30 AM (iQIUe)

I'm not too worried. I haven't been impressed with the average HA commenter, so I'm sure that the Morons will have great fun poking the noobs from HA with a stick. The humorless scolds among the HA set won't last long, and the few remaining who have thick skins, ribald humor and a brain will make fine additions to the Teh Horde.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (o98Jz)

249 Did you happen to notice, the union rep had a dockworker/ward heeler face, with a couple-hunnert-dollar haircut perched atop it? Spirit of Hoffa, alive and well.

Know who'd make a hell of a SCOTUS nominee? Laurence Tribe. Totally in TFG's wheelhouse, yet heterodox enough to incite a long debate. GOP would look venal to deny a hearing. That would be chess on a multi-dimensional level, so, no.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (xq1UY)

250 The
Walking
Dead?

*hhmmmm.....*

Sushi nyah?????

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (nzaaz)

251 "220
I don't think the going into Iraq was the major mistake, HOW we went in,
and HOW we conducted the War, and HOW we conducted the aftermath is the
big problem. And I think President Bush, while his intentions might
have been good, both got terrible advise and made some terrible
decisions on those points.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:42 AM (mw8Dm)"

While Bush and his subordinates made some mistakes in Iraq, by the time Bush left office Iraq was a stable place on the way to developing as a normal country. All it needed was a few thousand American soldiers to stay there for decades the way it had worked in Germany, Japan and Korea.

Obama fucked it up and wasted the lives and futures of the Americans who died and were maimed in Iraq. ISIS is 100% on Obama.

Obama has also guaranteed that the US is not sending land forces anywhere for at least another generation until everybody who remembers how the Democrats undid military victory in Vietnam and Iraq has died. In the near future, the only sort of US military response will be either SOF teams or massive destruction of foreign infrastructure and populations with no concern for collateral damage.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (QHgTq)

252 If people from "Hot Air" are going to come there I hope they are not going to be the leftist trolls they have over there.

If history is any indication, then two things are true:

1- At least some of them will be.

2- The Horde will drive the vast majority of them off.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (kff5f)

253 Elderly and unwell at a guess. Say he has done 30 years in the military so probably those C-Ration cigs did him in.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:54 AM (nzaaz)

254 Poppin' Fresh and the rest of the crew over at _Warm Flatus_ have been indulging in Farcebook-style commenter censoring for quite a while now, so this move makes sense for them.

They'll just have Zuckerberg doing the scanning for those forbidden keywords like "secession" and "revolution", the words that make Poppin' Fresh so uneasy, and making all such comments vanish.

As Zuck is already doing on German Farcebook when people make alarmed comments about the crime and rape tsunami brought by the Muslim "newcomers". Poof! Down the memory hole.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 08:54 AM (noWW6)

255 Could it be that they want to exchange (cast off) their current batch of commenters like the GOPe wants to get a new more malleable set of voters?

Seems that way because it appeared to me that more people there were Trump voters than otherwise and the MGMT was blatantly anti Trump. (although they didn't appear to be all for either Rubio or Cruz)

I can only hope that Ace manages to resist the siren call of money from some buyer and the supposed easier usage of either no comments, no anonymous comments or using some other system.

I, for one, even though on a fixed and limited budget will do my best to order stuff through Amazon from here so as to keep the EWOK in hair conditioner and leather tunics.

So if you have some dough, cash, money, cheddar, bucks, I'd ask you, nay plead with you, that you contribute to this last best hope for internet blogging mankind.

HIT THE TIP JAR!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 08:54 AM (Xo1Rt)

256 No you are not and neither am I (and thank God for that in both cases).
What we ARE is McConnell's boss. We need to fight and we need to keep
fighting til every one of those assholes remembers who works for whom.

He doesn't listen to *us.* That's the whole point. He's proven that he's just fine ignoring the conservatives and he'll still have his cushy job. In fact, since I'm not even his constituent he's shown he's just fine ignoring me totally.

Hell, given the way Scalia was likely to rule on an immigration challenge, McConnell is quite likely just fine with another Obama Wise Latina in that spot.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:55 AM (eytER)

257 Absolute certainties for $200, Alex.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at February 15, 2016 08:51 AM (zYV5P)

You can imagine how many Emails I get requesting members for a Promotion Board BUT ONLY OF A CERTAIN SEX. And I am sure you know which sex that is. And Color also plays in this. It is obvious to all of us in the Service as you know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:56 AM (mw8Dm)

258 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (kff5f)

I don't really mind people expressing opposing viewpoints, but some of the people over there are just nasty.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 08:57 AM (w4NZ8)

259 Money quote from Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans.

They say, "Nothing is as expensive as a free gift..."

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 08:57 AM (nzaaz)

260 Soon we will have a justice system as speedy and as upright as India's.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:57 AM (ieoTI)

261 Is that the AC that moved to Meeheeco? Carrier?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:58 AM (ieoTI)

262 While Bush and his subordinates made some mistakes in Iraq, by the time Bush left office Iraq was a stable place on the way to developing as a normal country. All it needed was a few thousand American soldiers to stay there for decades the way it had worked in Germany, Japan and Korea.

Obama fucked it up and wasted the lives and futures of the Americans who died and were maimed in Iraq. ISIS is 100% on Obama.

Obama has also guaranteed that the US is not sending land forces anywhere for at least another generation until everybody who remembers how the Democrats undid military victory in Vietnam and Iraq has died. In the near future, the only sort of US military response will be either SOF teams or massive destruction of foreign infrastructure and populations with no concern for collateral damage.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (QHgTq)

Oh I agree 100% with much of that. President Bush actually took the advice of his Military and reversed course on many things..TO HIS CREDIT. And no doubt Fredo gave all those gains away.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 15, 2016 08:58 AM (mw8Dm)

263 "Unless Obama appoints a textualist"

I believe he's a mastertextualist.

Posted by: Wdavis at February 15, 2016 08:58 AM (loZXu)

264 247 No you are not and neither am I (and thank God for that in both cases). What we ARE is McConnell's boss. We need to fight and we need to keep fighting til every one of those assholes remembers who works for whom.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (NPofj)

And how do you propose to advice Mr. McConnell of this salient fact?

I eagerly await your answer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:59 AM (zLP1L)

265 Obnoxious A-Hole at February 15, 2016 08:53 AM (QHgTq)

Exactly right.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2016 08:59 AM (/tuJf)

266
Advise, not advice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:59 AM (zLP1L)

267 I don't really mind people expressing opposing viewpoints, but some of the people over there are just nasty.

I haven't been into the HA comments section in a couple of years, but when I did read them (never registered to comment) it certainly seemed like there were certain commenters who could get away with quite a lot, when others would seem to get banhammered for much more minor offenses.

Add that to the fact that neither Ed, nor AllahP's analysis ever really seemed that profound, and I mostly quit bothering with HA.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:00 AM (kff5f)

268 Is that the AC that moved to Meeheeco?

Wait, Alexthechick moved to Mexico? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:00 AM (kff5f)

269 He doesn't listen to *us.* That's the whole point.
He's proven that he's just fine ignoring the conservatives and he'll
still have his cushy job. In fact, since I'm not even his constituent
he's shown he's just fine ignoring me totally.

Hell, given the
way Scalia was likely to rule on an immigration challenge, McConnell is
quite likely just fine with another Obama Wise Latina in that spot.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 08:55 AM (eytER)

Then it falls to US to change that and make him listen. People get the government they tolerate and deserve. If we don't fight... if we give into pessimism and content ourselves with just bitching about what we think is inevitable, we deserve every damn thing they do.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:00 AM (NPofj)

270 Why would any conservative join their site with Facebook? I avoid Facebook like the. plague. I wouldn't dream of putting my identity or political opinions on there. I won't even post pictures of my grandchildren. Who I am or who my family is or who I vote for are nobodys business.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 09:01 AM (DLIpz)

271 234 I don't dislike the Bushes personally though I understand why many do. Let's not forget that the Bushes gave us 12 years of highly questionable republican rule for 16+ years of very destructive liberal rule. The Bushes were a net negative for conservatism in many ways.

Posted by: CastleP at February 15, 2016 08:46 AM (7+oeE)

THIS.

But to espouse "Bush Lied People Died" is the bitter end for me with Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:01 AM (zLP1L)

272 Showed up at work wearing an engagement ring this morning. The first jewelry I've ever worn, and I'm delighted to wear it. But it feels so weird.

Nobody remarked.

Posted by: Spellcheck at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (HKBpI)

273 And how do you propose to advice Mr. McConnell of this salient fact?

Paper.
Mache.
Heads.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (kff5f)

274 The science is settled, this seems to be the Horde consensus about reading the comments at HA.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/selection-du-weekend-179-31.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (nzaaz)

275 Facebook No way. I reveal nothing there. Post nothing. Say nothing

Posted by: ThunderB at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (zOTsN)

276 "All it needed was a few thousand American soldiers to stay [in Iraq] for decades the way it had worked in Germany, Japan and Korea."

Bush wasn't straight with the U.S. public about the reality of needing that.

The public were led to believe it would be a rapid invasion, quick stabilization, and prompt withdrawal. No "nation building", which Bush as a candidate had claimed to abjure. Instead they got treated to views of violent de-stabilization rather than peaceful stabilization, and the only things coming home in large numbers being body bags.

One of the regional subject matter experts whom Tony Blair insisted on bringing into the planning loop before the invasion said, well, sure, you won't have any major trouble militarily defeating the Ba'athist regime. That, he said, was not the issue. The issue, he said, was that troops would have to stay in Iraq for forty or fifty years afterward.

He used the very specific and pointed phrase "generational commitment" to describe what was going to have to happen if Iraq was going to be made over as a stable secularized Westernized democracy. Think about the implications of those words.

George W. Bush sure as blazes never said "generational commitment" to the American public. Not anything anywhere even close to that sort of tough, hard-headed, sober, realistic assessment of fact. It was rosy scenarios and magic asterisks and "home by Christmas" all the way down.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (noWW6)

277 269 Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:00 AM (NPofj)

Please define, precisely, the word "fight" in your post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (zLP1L)

278 >>"Unless Obama appoints a textualist"

Yeah, looking at Kagan, Sotomayer, and Obama's cabinet picks I'm putting that at a roughly 0% chance of happening.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 09:03 AM (NOIQH)

279 Nah, AlextheChick has not run for the border. Though she did visit Bandersnatch this weekend for an Imperial Audit and a birthday.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 15, 2016 09:03 AM (nzaaz)

280 "Bush intentionally lied to get us to invade Iraq.

The latter is what Mr. Trump said. Loudly and proudly. That is, to put it mildly, unacceptable." sefton

I haven't actually heard the exchange, but I think he was not saying that on CBS the next morning, exactly. My understanding is the moderator was pushing him on "did Bush lie", probably because he knew Trump in 2008 said if Pelosi tried to impeach Bush it would be great.

As with Cruz saying Rubio and Trump agree with Obama on abortion, then later saying it was true because they use the Obama language of "it is settled law", there are various ways to tell lies.

We were sold on an advanced nuke program that didn't exist, but of course they had thwarted inspections forever, and so on. People less emotional can decide to what degree "Bush Lied", but things went wrong under his command, and it was left to the commie to mess it up. But even saying those two words is like an electric shock to those that heard "Bush Lied People Died" for so many years. Yet America lost the war and the region and Europe are a real mess.

But now conservatives are either apoplectic over those words, OR they think now they finally have the tool they need to beat Trump and are flooding the zone with the "Trump said those two words Republicans can never say" agitprop.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (5Gpe2)

281 Posted by: Spellcheck at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (HKBpI)

Congratulations; I don't think people notice those kinds of things unless you show it them and say, "See, I'm engaged."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (w4NZ8)

282 I just feel like trump will be the nominee and soon we will be saying president Clinton. Gah

Posted by: ThunderB at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (zOTsN)

283 "Showed up at work wearing an engagement ring this morning. The first
jewelry I've ever worn, and I'm delighted to wear it. But it feels so
weird. Nobody remarked."

Well, let us do so then. Congratulations!

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (noWW6)

284 276 Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (noWW6)

The argument is not the way the war was fought or what it was going to take to win. The argument is how war was declared in the first place.

Two very different issues, to me anyway.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (zLP1L)

285 And how do you propose to advice Mr. McConnell of this salient fact?

I eagerly await your answer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 08:59 AM (zLP1L)

Call and write him and all of the others. Support conservative alternatives in primaries with both your time and money. And, most important, don't give up and don't give in because this is a long hard slog we are in for.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (NPofj)

286 272 Showed up at work wearing an engagement ring this morning. The first jewelry I've ever worn, and I'm delighted to wear it. But it feels so weird.

Nobody remarked.
Posted by: Spellcheck at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (HKBpI)

You're engaged ? Congratulations!!

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (DLIpz)

287 Bush wasn't straight with the U.S. public about the reality of needing that.

The public were led to believe it would be a rapid invasion, quick stabilization, and prompt withdrawal.

Sorry, that is incorrect. Bush very carefully attempted to explain that, yes, Iraq was going to be a "long-term commitment." He was a little hazy on "long-term" because the American public wasn't down for a generational occupation.

It was the MFM (and Rove, to some extent) who pushed the impression that Iraq was going to be "over quickly." The MFM did that because I'm pretty sure they were aware that it *wouldn't* be over quickly, and they could use it as a bludgeon later. Rove allowed it to happen because he thinks he's a master of 11th dimensional chess, when he's really not even all that good at checkers.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:06 AM (kff5f)

288 So big story is that according to a "scientific study" the Bible is more violent than the Koran

The only surprising thing is that they didn't hold this story until Easter weekend. But the 1st week in Lent is a close second as far as "FU, Christians" timing goes...

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 09:06 AM (NOIQH)

289 Got to thinking... (always dangerous...)

I expect Ruth Buzzard Ginsberg to be the next to go.

If we hold out 'til then, just let it be.

Who needs nine judges? Seven will do as well.

Doncha think?

Morning, Glorious Children of the Ultimate Creator!

What have y'all been thinking this fine morning?

Posted by: mindful webworker - pre-caffeinated at February 15, 2016 09:06 AM (6MUFb)

290 osted by: ThunderB at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (zOTsN)

I have an account with my name; I have never done anything with it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 09:07 AM (w4NZ8)

291 Spellcheck - was it a Valentine surprise?

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at February 15, 2016 09:07 AM (DLIpz)

292 Ginsberg's days are numbered. I figure she lasted only so as to beat Scalia. So now he's gone she has little to live for.

Expect within 60 days.

That means the SCOTUS comes to an effectively screeching halt which actually may be a good thing.

Unless Obama manages to squeeze out another turd for the American Punch Bowl.

What bothers me most is this scumbag in the White House has gotten so many lucky breaks it makes me wonder if GOD is mad at us? Or we're on the wrong side?

And they are laughing and high fiving and giggling like little girls at the White House. You know they are.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 09:07 AM (Xo1Rt)

293 Hot Air commenters or not.......
Pants are f'n optional.

At best.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 09:07 AM (ptqRm)

294 "Showed up at work wearing an engagement ring this morning. The first jewelry I've ever worn, and I'm delighted to wear it. But it feels so weird. Nobody remarked."

Congratulations! I hope you have many happy years together.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (kff5f)

295 280 But now conservatives are either apoplectic over those words, OR they think now they finally have the tool they need to beat Trump and are flooding the zone with the "Trump said those two words Republicans can never say" agitprop.
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM (5Gpe2)

You're damn right I'm apoplectic. To say that Bush intentionally lied about WMD to get us to invade Iraq is a leftist meme.

I was not sanguine about invading Iraq at all, but there is no evidence to suggest that George Bush knew the intelligence was BS and went ahead anyway, or that he ordered the intelligence faked and went ahead anyway.

I heard what Trump said. He said Bush lied. Intentionally. There is ZERO defense for that statement at all. Not if you are running as a GOP candidate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (zLP1L)

296 Congratulations, Spellcheck!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (NOIQH)

297 But now conservatives are either apoplectic over
those words, OR they think now they finally have the tool they need to
beat Trump and are flooding the zone with the "Trump said those two
words Republicans can never say" agitprop. Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 09:04 AM

It is a convenient way to deflect attention/criticism from their own Preezy choices, each of whom has plenty o'skeletons, questionable choices and actions, and shifty associates to be explained away.

Even the obvious questions about certain candidates cause their supporters' heads to explode.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (iW5Mq)

298 How Carrier should have done it: claim they were building a plant in Mexico to serve the burgeoning Mexican market only. Global warming and all. US business press would not notice, if it wasn't in the press release, that the new plant was big enough to serve the entire hemisphere. Then slowly phase out Indy. "It's old."

How the Steelworkers should have done it: require the company to pay all the moving costs for current employees and families to move to Monterrey. New plant would fail within five years. Hey, it worked at Saturn, and that was only to TN.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (xq1UY)

299 Le DUMP.

Its arrival has been mentioned....yes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 09:08 AM (ptqRm)

300 Once I found out that posting a comment with my facebook account put my full name on the comment, I stopped using Facebook.

I also privatized everything and stripped out what I could.

Only my name shows up now for public viewers.

And that's the only reason I have a Facebook and a Twitter account is to keep someone from using my name.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 09:09 AM (Xo1Rt)

301 So big story is that according to a "scientific study" the Bible is more violent than the Koran

*sigh*

Of course these are the same people who claim that there are "thousands" of errors in the Bible by counting every incident of a mis-transcribed fragment as "an error" as though they don't understand the recreation of historical documents.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:09 AM (kff5f)

302 Hot Air refugee here! Is this thing on? Is the moron horde still accepting applicants?

Posted by: Doomberg at February 15, 2016 09:10 AM (hNPOD)

303 Fen I have an account with my name. Other people post their stuff there. Everyone knows I don't use it. It's kind of a joke

Posted by: ThunderB at February 15, 2016 09:10 AM (zOTsN)

304 292
What bothers me most is this scumbag in the White House has gotten so many lucky breaks it makes me wonder if GOD is mad at us? Or we're on the wrong side?

And they are laughing and high fiving and giggling like little girls at the White House. You know they are.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 09:07 AM (Xo1Rt)

G-d must have a plan. None of this makes any sense, just as the years 1933-45 made no sense. We have to endure, for ourselves and our posterity.

If our lot is to go down, then there's no way in hell I voluntarily stick my head in the noose. If I'm doomed, then a lot of people are going down with me - RHETORICALLY SPEAKING of course.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:11 AM (zLP1L)

305 Then it falls to US to change that and make him listen. People get the
government they tolerate and deserve. If we don't fight... if we give
into pessimism and content ourselves with just bitching about what we
think is inevitable, we deserve every damn thing they do.

Again, I don't fault you for your spirit, but honestly I'm getting a strong Bluto-Speech vibe from Animal House.

It's OK to say "FIGHT GODDAMN IT FIGHT," but if McConnell has proven anything so far is that not only is he deaf to the voices of the conservatives, he is actively hostile to them. He certainly doesn't need us to get elected. And he's proven quite adept at short circuiting or minimizing primary challenges.

Moreover, the leadership is stacked too deep. Hell, conservatives deep sixed Eric Cantor, and who'd the GOP replace him with.....?

The idea that the only thing keeping McConnell's heart hardened is the lack of a well-written letter is, honestly, false hope. He will follow through with failure theater because at the end of the day, he's more on Obama's side than ours.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 09:11 AM (PFy0L)

306 I love the Bible vs Quran comparison.

Of course, the Bible is a record of violent events having taken place.
And the Quran is a text directing violence to take place.

Other then that?

Totes the same.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 09:12 AM (ptqRm)

307 Posted by: Lizzy at February 15, 2016 09:06 AM (NOIQH)

It's absolute bs. It's not scientific. A guy at pj media took it apart. For one thing, it doesn't talk about you actual battles that were you know- historic. It doesn't address that the violence in the Christian scriptures is being done to Christians and that the bible is twice as long as the Koran. How can you make a comparison. That is all aside from the fact that Jesus doesn't tell people to kill those who curse them and neither does Paul.

Do they "scientifically" tell us how many Muslims are killing people every day? Nope.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 09:12 AM (w4NZ8)

308 In the year of our Turtle One.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 09:12 AM (ieoTI)

309 Takeaway: even though govt subsidies for Medicare Advantage were cut, more people are flocking to them to avoid the crappy alternatives

http://tinyurl.com/j8d6y24

Posted by: McCool at February 15, 2016 09:13 AM (nCSwS)

310 All it needed was a few thousand American soldiers to stay there for decades the way it had worked in Germany, Japan and Korea.

We didn't stay in those countries to pacify them. We stayed there for reasons that had to do with bases in fighting the Cold War. Our troops in Iraq would have been getting involved if flare-up after flare-up trying to keep the current idiot leader in-charge. Then it would have been another surge or we just leave. You can't compare Germany, Japan, and South Korea (countries that had functioning societies) with Iraq (your typical ME Islamic disaster).

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 09:14 AM (LTDSy)

311 What bothers me most is this scumbag in the White House has gotten so many lucky breaks it makes me wonder if GOD is mad at us? Or we're on the wrong side?

And they are laughing and high fiving and giggling like little girls at the White House. You know they are.

You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you know it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back.

#freshhell

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2016 09:15 AM (LUgeY)

312 15 How do the Trump supporters defend his idiocy with regard to Bush and 9/11?

Posted by: Seems legit

You should get into the push-polling business or mainstream media. Defense? It doesn't have to be defended. Now one for you. Who would you vote for in a Trump vs. Hillary general?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 15, 2016 09:17 AM (kfcYC)

313 "Conservatives" still defending Bush...

The wonders never cease.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 15, 2016 09:18 AM (OvUux)

314 We didn't give them power.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2016 08:36 AM (ieoTI)

Da, komrade!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2016 09:18 AM (wYnyS)

315 "Obama fucked it up and wasted the lives and futures of the Americans who died and were maimed in Iraq. ISIS is 100% on Obama." obnoxious

It wasn't exactly settled when Bush left, as I recall. But it had hope. But Bush left it all for the commie Obammie, and he must have known that would not turn out well. He had to know of Obama's allegiances ... since so many conservatives knew them. And then Bush remained silent and supportive of Obama, but came out against Cruz. heh

So in that sense, yeah it seemed we almost had it "won", but the real deep conflicts were not really resolved. And strategically for the enemy, they knew they had a weak horse (or even an ally) coming shortly, so held back. So that is all part of what Bush really left behind, and he can't quite wash his hands and declare innocence.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 15, 2016 09:18 AM (5Gpe2)

316 We whenass wheelans don't need no stinkin crumbs we need Toasters fer Bathtubs reparationez,,we vota per TURD FERGUSON..stinkin Canadianese all others cruzin fer a flush'in

Posted by: saf at February 15, 2016 09:20 AM (qKiBT)

317 I don't think the universe laughs; I don't credit the universe with having an intelligent mind. It's a creation of God. I think God wants me to fulfill my purpose in Him which do erratically and wrongly much of the time and then I ask for forgiveness. and do my best to carry on.

As to whether God is angry at the US-I wouldn't blame God for that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 15, 2016 09:21 AM (w4NZ8)

318 DANG it... NOOD awreddy?

Anyway...!

J.J. Sefton: It's Davis' birthday, not Davis's.

Um, officially...

Form the possessive singular of nouns with 's.

Follow this rule whatever the final consonant. Thus write,

Charles's friend
Burns's poems
the witch's malice

This is the usage of the United States Government Printing Office and of the Oxford University Press.

Exceptions are the possessives of ancient proper names in -es and -is, the possessive Jesus', and such forms as for conscience' sake, for righteousness' sake. But such forms as Achilles' heel, Moses' laws, Isis' temple are commonly replaced by

the heel of Achilles
the laws of Moses
the temple of Isis

Strunk, Elements of Style
http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html

Posted by: mindful webworker - officiously at February 15, 2016 09:21 AM (6MUFb)

319 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 15, 2016 09:15 AM (LUgeY)

HI MOM!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 09:22 AM (Xo1Rt)

320 Sorry, that is incorrect. Bush very carefully attempted to explain that, yes, Iraq was going to be a "long-term commitment." He was a little hazy on "long-term" because the American public wasn't down for a generational occupation.

It was the MFM (and Rove, to some extent) who pushed the impression that Iraq was going to be "over quickly." The MFM did that because I'm pretty sure they were aware that it *wouldn't* be over quickly, and they could use it as a bludgeon later. Rove allowed it to happen because he thinks he's a master of 11th dimensional chess, when he's really not even all that good at checkers.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 15, 2016 09:06 AM (kff5f)

So Bush didn't outright say generational or specifically explain longterm and Rove who worked for Bush was helping the press make it seem like a short operation, is that correct? In other words, the administration was making it seem like a short operation with a fig leaf covering for long term. I would say that counts as obfuscating, at best, the true cost and time of the operation.

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 09:28 AM (LTDSy)

321 FS, grammie, you do know that Spellcheck is a lesbian?

Posted by: 1 Co 6:9 at February 15, 2016 09:29 AM (dRfkS)

322 As to Trump's latest; I have no clue what he's doing.

I will however be voting for him as I don't trust Cruz and see how what he does doesn't match what he says (along with others) but mostly because I have a bad feeling about him.

Don't like how he speaks, how he looks or his religious trappings (whether real or not).

And quite frankly, I always thought that Bush (and his gang) were lying about Iraq to get us in there but I was ok with it because I thought it could be a good thing.

But he then went and screwed it up and didn't move quickly enough so that the opportunity to at least threaten Iran was lost. And that no one can dispute happened.

So all in all, we WERE wrong in going into Iraq with a half assed plan. That they later made it less than a complete disaster is to their gain but it could have been a lot better.

And frankly, I'm at the point where some old fashioned shut the borders and get our shit straight moves are in order.

Let the furriners so what they will but they ain't doing it here.

Time for some Isolation.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 15, 2016 09:29 AM (Xo1Rt)

323
269 Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:00 AM (NPofj)

Please define, precisely, the word "fight" in your post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2016 09:02 AM (zLP1L)

Right now, anything you can legally do. Get hooked in with your local Tea Party group or state Republican party (if they are not completely useless), organize with them to try and change your representation if it needs changing. Be a pain in the ass for you current representative (and Senators)... let them know what you expect of them and let them know that you are willing and able to work to unelect them if they are not going to do their job and represent you. Do this by letter and with phone calls... they may not want to notice when the phone lines melt down but they do nonetheless. Mainly just don't give up and give in to pessimism... as hard as it is to believe we can change the crapfest that is Washington, we have the votes. We may be affecting change slowly and imperfectly right now but we are affecting change.

ra, ra, ra, sis, boom, ba... thus ends my cheerleading for the moment.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:40 AM (NPofj)

324 Those of you defending Bush 43 for that matter seem to forget that going along with big government, tax increases and going half-cocked and half-hearted into war without even a desire to WIN got the US into its current mess. Bush 43 did nothing with Republican majorities in both houses except no child left behind, and his biggest accomplishment was having his amnesty push blow up in his face and electing the first black president.

Apart from that he seems like a really nice guy (no sarc.) whose heart is in the right place, but who thinks government is a big way to do good. He probably thinks illegal immigration is an act of love.

I like Trump because I'm certain the wall will be built, many illegals will be deported and mass firings in the civil service. I don't think he'll be shy about overturning Obama's executive orders.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 15, 2016 09:43 AM (kfcYC)

325 "310
All it needed was a few thousand American soldiers to stay there for decades the way it had worked in Germany, Japan and Korea.

We didn't stay in those countries to pacify them. We stayed there
for reasons that had to do with bases in fighting the Cold War. Our
troops in Iraq would have been getting involved if flare-up after
flare-up trying to keep the current idiot leader in-charge. Then it
would have been another surge or we just leave. You can't compare
Germany, Japan, and South Korea (countries that had functioning
societies) with Iraq (your typical ME Islamic disaster).

Posted by: WOPR at February 15, 2016 09:14 AM (LTDSy)"

For the years previous to Obama withdrawing American troops, things were very quiet and there were no flareups going on in the area. It was safer for a young man between the ages of 18 and 25 to be stationed in Iraq than to live in Detroit, New Orleans or Baltimore.

Germany, Japan and South Korea have functioning societies today because American troops were in those countries for decades. When US troops arrived, those places were far from functional. The Werewolves were operating in Germany and Japan had things like the Okah or "Baka Bomb" rocket plane, the most impressive form of suicide bomb so far put to use. That was not the product of a normal functioning society.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 15, 2016 09:45 AM (QHgTq)

326 It's OK to say "FIGHT GODDAMN IT FIGHT," but if
McConnell has proven anything so far is that not only is he deaf to the
voices of the conservatives, he is actively hostile to them. He
certainly doesn't need us to get elected. And he's proven quite adept at
short circuiting or minimizing primary challenges.

Moreover, the
leadership is stacked too deep. Hell, conservatives deep sixed Eric
Cantor, and who'd the GOP replace him with.....?

The idea that
the only thing keeping McConnell's heart hardened is the lack of a
well-written letter is, honestly, false hope. He will follow through
with failure theater because at the end of the day, he's more on Obama's
side than ours.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 15, 2016 09:11 AM (PFy0L

Cantor, Boehner, McCarthy... lather rinse repeat until they get the message or run out of RINOS.

This is not going to be easy or quick but it can be done.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:48 AM (NPofj)

327 307 Posted by: Lizzy ...That is all aside from the fact that Jesus doesn't tell people to kill those who curse them and neither does Paul.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Jesus' plan is to consign sinners to burn for eternity in the fires of hell. As a Catholic I'm kinda looking forward to it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 15, 2016 09:49 AM (kfcYC)

328 I thought one of the conditions for the other ME countries to join the coalition of the first Gulf War was that we NOT depose Saddam. But I may be misremembering.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 15, 2016 09:49 AM (B8JRQ)

329 Jesus' plan is to consign sinners to burn for eternity in the fires of hell. As a Catholic I'm kinda looking forward to it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 15, 2016 09:49 AM (kfcYC)

Between our free will and God's freely offered grace, it is our choice to suffer hell or not.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2016 09:57 AM (NPofj)

330 Between our ~~free~~ will and God's freely offered grace, it is our choice to suffer hell or not.
Posted by: redbanzai

FIFY

Posted by: John Calvin at February 15, 2016 10:02 AM (dRfkS)

331 We've been engaged since last June. We resisted rings as not really the right symbol for the two of us. Back in December we recognized that as contrary for contrary's sake, pretentious and reverse snobbery. So we bought them a few weeks ago, and exchanged them yesterday.

August 13. Save the date.

Posted by: Spellcheck at February 15, 2016 10:09 AM (HKBpI)

332 The 2000-2003 assessment of Saddam's intentions and future WMD capability: there is no daylight between GWB, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Madaline Albright, Nancy Pelosi, and one certain Donald Trump. No daylight.

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/226742/

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 15, 2016 10:14 AM (VdICR)

333 Just wanted to check in and say hi. Hot Air is going to facebook for comments so most of the long time commenters are leaving. Some of us will come here.

Posted by: fossten at February 15, 2016 10:21 AM (fCk80)

334 Hiya, Fossten. What's your hobbyhorse? (Other than antiFacebookism)?

Posted by: Spellcheck at February 15, 2016 10:35 AM (HKBpI)

335 Spellcheck, I'm big on golf, Trump, and video games. How about that for a trifecta!

Posted by: fossten at February 15, 2016 11:15 AM (fCk80)

336 Hi all, Another FB dodger here...
/watches Hot Air in the rear view mirror fade into the distance..

Posted by: DJcool at February 15, 2016 11:18 AM (AgLFn)

337 Another entity abandoned by Hot Air

Posted by: Guest1.1 at February 15, 2016 11:52 AM (stjDQ)

338 Having been abandoned by traitorous HA, I have abandoned it. Nice one day advanced warning we got!

Posted by: Sherman1864 at February 15, 2016 11:56 AM (MfLdd)

339 I think the "Pillow over his head" actually meant above his head, higher towards the headboard, with his head on the mattress, instead of the pillow.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 15, 2016 07:38 AM (ptqRm)

I haven't thought of that one, but it's certainly possible. Good catch.

I'm not familiar with the Texas idiosyncrasies around Alpine, but in the eastern two-thirds of Texas, "over his head" means "atop his head," not above and behind.

My guess is that he felt bad, and instead of going straight to bed, laid down on top of the sheets with a pillow on top of the upper half of his head to provide darkness. I've done the same thing when I've felt ill.

He probably intended to rest a bit before going to sleep, went to sleep, then died.

I'm trying not to be conspiratorial.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit (7th-generation Texan) at February 15, 2016 01:34 PM (dPpmC)

340 Trump would have been better off talking about George Bush's useful idiocy in regards to Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Geoffrey at February 15, 2016 03:21 PM (LoRcb)

341 Planned an amazing getaway with the girlfriend. Drove four hundred miles to get there.

She broke up with me, by text message, about ten minutes before I reached the hotel.

Survived Valentines Day? Well, I'm still alive. And, I've been through far worse than this. But...

Posted by: Aarradin at February 17, 2016 07:02 AM (E1dWk)

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