Overnight Open Thread (2-9-2016)

Quote of the Day I

That's so touching, isn't it? It's a grand experiment in mass forgiveness. Except Gonzales wasn't convicted of having a few too many bags of heroin in his backpack when he got picked up for jaywalking. He tied up the Effrons in a basement and beat them to a bloody pulp with a pipe. For that monstrous act he was sentenced to life. And now he's free.

-- Jazz Shaw on California's "mass forgiveness" of convicts

Quote of the Day II

I should also note that David Daleiden is apparently prepared to go to jail over this. If that bothers you - if you don't like the fact that a jury could put a man in jail for twenty years because he used a fake ID in one of the few ways that society finds acceptable and even moral* - then, well, that's why people do civil disobedience. REAL civil disobedience, not the petulant, look-at-me garbage that the Activist Left revels in.

-- Moe Lane on the Harris County prosecution over the Planned Parenthood videos

Quote of the Day III

News item: Bill Clinton criticizes Bernie Sanders for sexism. Let that sink in a moment. Bill Clinton. Sexism. Maybe Hillary can get Bill Cosby to campaign for her. The thing I'd look forward to in a contest between Trump and Hillary would be Trump letting fly with the remark in a debate that if Hillary won the election, he certainly wouldn't let his daughter be a White House intern. (You know he'd go there. He already has.)

-- Steven Hayward of PowerLine

Random Wikipedia Link That I Happened Across: Laconic Speech

Named after Laconia, a region of Greece which includes the city of Sparta, whose inhabitants were known for being parsimonious with words and for their short, pithy remarks often including a certain amount of dry wit. In contrast to other areas of Greece where speaking and argument were admired and studied Spartan children were trained to hold rhetoric and verbosity in disdain and let their actions speak for them. Due to the Spartans' success in battle the laconic style has also come to be associated with military speech.

  • When Leonidas was in charge of guarding the narrow mountain pass at Thermopylae with just 7,000 Greeks in order to delay the invading Persian army, Xerxes offered to spare his men if they gave up their arms. Leonidas replied "Molon labe" (Greek: Μολών λαβέ ), which translates to "Come and take them".
  • After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta: "If I invade Laconia you will be destroyed, never to rise again." The Spartan ephors replied with a single word: "If" (αἴκα ). Subsequently neither Philip nor his son Alexander the Great attempted to capture the city.
  • In an account from Herodotus, "When the banished Samians reached Sparta, they had audience of the magistrates, before whom they made a long speech, as was natural with persons greatly in want of aid." When it was over, the Spartans averred that they could no longer remember the first half of their speech, and thus "...could make nothing of the remainder. Afterwards the Samians had another audience, whereat they simply said, showing a bag which they had brought with them, 'The bag wants flour.' The Spartans answered that they did not need to have said 'the bag'; however, they resolved to give them aid."
  • Spartan mothers or wives gave a departing warrior his shield with the words: "With it or on it!" (Greek: Ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς! E tan e epi tas!) E tan e epi tas!), implying that he should return (victoriously) with his shield, or (his dead body) upon it.
  • Demetrius I of Macedon was offended when the Spartans sent his court a single envoy, and exclaimed angrily, "What! Have the Lacedaemonians sent no more than one ambassador?" The Spartan responded, "Aye, one ambassador to one king."
  • Julius Caesar memorialized his swift victory over King Pharnaces II of Pontus in the Battle of Zela in 47 BC with a message to the Roman Senate consisting of the words "Veni, vidi, vici" ("I came, I saw, I conquered" ).
  • In 1809, during the second siege of Saragossa, the French demanded the city's surrender with the message "Peace and Surrender" ("Paz y capitulación" ). General Palafox's reply was "War and knife".
  • After the sinking of light carrier Shoho in the May 1942 Battle of the Coral Sea, LCDR Robert E. Dixon radioed "Scratch one flattop" to U.S.S. Lexington, whose commanding officer credited the pilot with coining the standard USN slang.
  • During the December 1944 Battle of Bastogne, part of the Battle of the Bulge, the 101st Airborne in and around Bastogne was surrounded by enemy forces. The Germans sent the Americans a party of envoys with an ultimatum: surrender or face "certain annihilation". The German officer in charge was perplexed when General Anthony McAuliffe replied with one word: "Nuts!".

USAF: No More Parachuting at Fort Bragg

The airborne units at Bragg (82nd Airborne Division, much of 18th Corps, and various US Army Special Operations Command and Joint Special Operations Command elements) will now have to truck or bus 230 miles (3 ˝ hours by charter bus, 5 hours by Army truck) to Charleston, SC, and the Air Force will condescend to fly the paratroopers back to Bragg while the trucks or buses convoy back empty. Meanwhile, a second set of trucks and buses will have to be spotted on the DZ. or maybe the guys can just walk back from the field.

What the USAF is hoping, of course, is that the paras will stop jumping so damned much. They need to use the money to pay for the cost overruns on the F-35 program, so that there will still be jobs at LockMartNorGrumBoeing for retired flag officers. For some values of the word, "job."

Meanwhile, The F-35 Is Still a Train Wreck

Every system goes through teething issues in development and shakeout but the F-35 is looking more and more like a very expensive dog.

Testing of operational "dog-fighting" maneuvers showed that the F-35A lacked sufficient energy maneuverability to sustain an energy advantage over fourth generation fighter aircraft. Test pilots flew 17 engagements between an F-35A and an F-16D, which was configured with external fuel tanks that limited the F-16D envelope to 7.0 g's. The F-35A remained at a distinct energy disadvantage on every engagement.
Eleven of the 12 [WDA] events required intervention by the developmental test control team to overcome system deficiencies and ensure a successful event (i.e., acquire and identify the target and engage it with a weapon). The program altered the event scenario for three of these events, as well as the twelfth event, specifically to work around F-35 system deficiencies (e.g., changing target spacing or restricting target maneuvers and countermeasures).

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CDR Salamander on the New Climate Change Preparedness and Resilience OPLAN

We used to make fun of the Soviets for forcing on their military a bunch of political showmanship that had nothing to do with fighting and winning wars. We used to pride ourselves on a rigorous and disciplined approach to military planning from trying to define Centers of Gravity to making sure our Assumptions were sound and that our analysis of Critical Vulnerabilities etc was as close to accurate as could be.  Poor thinking or unrelated issues were quickly and without mercy cut. When a clean OPLAN was long enough you had to.

Well, you can forget that. We are moving to full Soviet clown show where political cargo cults are being forced on military planning - not because military professionals see it as important, but because The Party demands it.

If You Were Ever a Fan of Ted Nugent, Don't Click This Link

Then he doubled down trying to explain that he doesn't hate Jew-Jews - just the bad-Jews. Which leads one to suspect that the whole subhuman mongrel thing maybe wasn't just a thoughtless poor choice of words.

tedbugent34

Texas Prosecutor Disbarred For Giving False Testimony, Sending Innocent Man to Death Row

The Coen Brothers on #OscarsSoWhite

As filmmakers, is it important or not important to consciously factor in concerns like diversity, I asked.

"Not in the least!" Ethan answered. "It's important to tell the story you're telling in the right way, which might involve black people or people of whatever heritage or ethnicity-or it might not."

"It's an absolute, absurd misunderstanding of how things get made to single out any particular story and say, 'Why aren't there this, that, or the other thing?'" added Joel. "It's a fundamental misunderstanding of how stories are written. So you have to start there and say, 'You don't know what you're talking about.'"

...He continued: "You don't sit down and write a story and say, 'I'm going to write a story that involves four black people, three Jews, and a dog,'-right? That's not how stories get written. If you don't understand that, you don't understand anything about how stories get written and you don't realize that the question you're asking is idiotic."

So You Want To Listen In On the North Korean Satellite?

Allergic to Vibrations?

Report: Marshawn Lynch Hasn't Spent a Penny of the $49.7 Million He Has Made in His NFL Career

Apparently he's been living off whatever he makes through endorsements and special events and saving his salary over his entire NFL career. Which means he could retire at age 29 with nearly $50 million in the bank.

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What Leonardo DiCaprio's Private Uninhabited Island Looks Like

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Uber For Escorts is Now a Thing

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The Yahoo group is for closers only.

Teh Tweet!

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:13 PM




Comments

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1 Foist!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2016 11:14 PM (ntObR)

2 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:14 PM (voOPb)

3 phooey

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:15 PM (YOxw1)

4 F-35 Proving the Jack of all Trades is the Master of None, and the brilliance of AF Generals in getting rid of unwanted missions including, but not limited to, functional CAS and air lift.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 09, 2016 11:16 PM (T78UI)

5 Yuuuge.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 09, 2016 11:17 PM (21hN3)

6 F-35 Proving the Jack of all Trades is the Master of None, and the brilliance of AF Generals in getting rid of unwanted missions including, but not limited to, functional CAS and air lift.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 09, 2016 11:16 PM (T78UI)

Sigh.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2016 11:18 PM (DUoqb)

7 Hello, ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:19 PM (EVV0Q)

8 It looks like a puddle of pond scum. You *sure* DiCaprio isn't in that picture...?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2016 11:19 PM (6FqZa)

9 I'll have to read the ONT in the AM.
A little drunk.

MY GUY WON!!!!!!
TRUMP!

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:20 PM (2x3L+)

10 The Texas prosecutor who deliberately sent that innocent guy to death row should be charged with attempted murder.

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:20 PM (YOxw1)

11 Uber for Escorts. I may actually have to learn some Emojis.

Posted by: Willy J at February 09, 2016 11:20 PM (Nkdwp)

12 Hello everybody.

Anybody else see this crazy story out of Baltimore? The video has to be seen to be believed.

"Video: Baltimore Fight Ends With Driver Ramming Cars And People"

http://tinyurl.com/gwx58g8

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2016 11:20 PM (ntObR)

13 UBER for escorts and the and Yacht is shit. Old tech.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (EVV0Q)

14 Too much content. You could go blind reading all that fine print.

Repost:

I played a concert the other night and after the show saw a beautiful and wonderful Venezuelan lady friend who told me she was horrified by what had happened to her country.

She wants her sister to come to America but her sister won't leave. She was so sad, especially about the fact the people had voted for socialism and are paying such a horrible price.

She said basic necessities are very hard to get.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (3myMJ)

15 I always liked the one where a British general was told not to take the Hindu country of Sind. The message arrived too late so he replied with "Peccavi".

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (fC9RO)

16 Hi ya'll,

I'm unexcepedly very drunk. Can you give me a synopsis of what this ONT is about?

Posted by: Farmer at February 09, 2016 11:22 PM (o/90i)

17 If You Were Ever a Fan of Ted Nugent, Don't Click This Link

Then he doubled down trying to explain that he doesn't hate Jew-Jews - just the bad-Jews. Which leads one to suspect that the whole subhuman mongrel thing maybe wasn't just a thoughtless poor choice of words.


Word.

Posted by: Sir Oswald Mosley at February 09, 2016 11:22 PM (KR/6E)

18 hi all
excellent ONT Maet, hope you are feeling much better!

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 09, 2016 11:22 PM (uZNvH)

19 Nugent it weirdish and I've never got him.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:22 PM (EVV0Q)

20 I see a Land Yacht.

But no Yoko.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2016 11:23 PM (NHG6e)

21 Looks like Nugent has caught Dumb Shit Fever. Good God Ted

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:23 PM (voOPb)

22 I don't see why people are foretelling doom for Hillary. Sanders gets New Hampshire, and faaaaades awayyyyyy.

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:23 PM (YOxw1)

23 The F-35 seems perfectly suited to Kamikaze missions.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2016 11:23 PM (McRlu)

24 I'm unexcepedly very drunk. Can you give me a synopsis of what this ONT is about?
Posted by: Farmer


WASF.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:24 PM (wCF3s)

25 The F-35 seems perfectly suited to Kamikaze missions.
>>>

If you could aim it yeah.

Posted by: Willy J at February 09, 2016 11:24 PM (Nkdwp)

26 Nugent is a fireball on facebutt.

Posts pics of pretty girls with bloody dead game animals.

It's great.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:24 PM (3myMJ)

27 Uncle Ted let his mask slip.

Some said he was being ironic, but I do not think some know what this word means.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2016 11:24 PM (EZebt)

28 I won.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama Famously Laconic Military Leader at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (Z58Xa)

29 "Too much content. You could go blind reading all that fine print.


Posted by: Meremortal"




I'm sure Maet loves this kind of feedback.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (EVV0Q)

30 >>> Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM
-----
That is really sad. Was she hot?
jk
I'm glad you're playing. Sorry for your fan and her sister.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (2x3L+)

31 I went and saw Teh Nuge when he was doing his Fuck You tour. That had to be around 2004-05; he pissed off almost everyone in the audience in the first 30 minutes. The couple we went with walked out after 15 minutes; fuck that, I stayed to the bitter end.

He's a talented rocker but he's got a few screws loose.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (gyKtp)

32 If You Were Ever a Fan of Ted Nugent, Don't Click This Link

Then he doubled down trying to explain that he doesn't hate Jew-Jews - just the bad-Jews.


I was never a fan of Ted Nugent but I think this thing is a big nothing-burger. I really couldn't care less about it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (zc3Db)

33 I don't think Sanders will fade. He nearly won Iowa. The enthusiasm gap is real.

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (f3Iw2)

34 I was ursine raped. In the ass.

Posted by: Leotardo Dederpio at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (u0o1v)

35 10 "The Texas prosecutor who deliberately sent that innocent guy to death row should be charged with attempted murder."

What about someone who tried to keep a fellow in jail for 16 years for stealing a calculator?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/opinion/the-brutalism-of-ted-cruz.html?referer&_r=0

Posted by: Russtovich at February 09, 2016 11:26 PM (pFXle)

36 Uncle Ted let his mask slip.

Some said he was being ironic, but I do not think some know what this word means.

Posted by: San Franpsycho

Can you elaborate a bit?

Thanks.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:26 PM (3myMJ)

37 >>Then he doubled down trying to explain that he doesn't hate Jew-Jews - just the bad-Jews.


But not, you know, his accountant or his doctor.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2016 11:26 PM (NHG6e)

38 Breaking: a statement from the Gilmore campaign.
https://youtu.be/23C9xMRCOPY?t=2m17s

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 09, 2016 11:26 PM (zmW4B)

39 29 "Too much content. You could go blind reading all that fine print.
Posted by: Meremortal"

I'm sure Maet loves this kind of feedback.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:25 PM (EVV0Q)


I sure do!

[hands Meremortal's traceback address to flying monkeys, makes throat-slashing gesture]

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 09, 2016 11:27 PM (pAlYe)

40 At the Alamo, Col Travis gave a succinct reply to the Mexican Army's demand for surrender. He fired off the cannon.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 09, 2016 11:28 PM (JO9+V)

41 Hey, Meremortal was just found in his home drenched in his own blood!! What a co-inky-dink...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2016 11:28 PM (ntObR)

42 Another funny example of laconic humor, this time directed at the Spartans. There was this one important dude, a prince or something of some ancient city-state, who was famous for being some sort of proto-foodie.

He got a hankering to try the famous Spartan "black broth", a soup that the Spartans ate while they were out fighting. Its main ingredients were pork and pig blood and vinegar and onions.

He looked all over for someone who could make it for him, and finally found a Spartan sergeant who was willing to take that job.

When the soup was finally presented to him, he took one taste, grimaced, and said, "Now I understand why Spartans don't fear death."

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:28 PM (0OG8D)

43 Texas Prosecutor Disbarred For Giving False Testimony, Sending Innocent Man to Death Row

Bastard should've gotten the death penalty, not just disbarred. Every dirty prosecutor who suborns perjury and withholds exculpatory evidence should get the same penalty as the defendant they screwed over. Same for dirty cops and corrupt judges. Anybody who does this should go down hard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 09, 2016 11:29 PM (kpqmD)

44 Sure hope the Playboy Land Yacht has nuclear powered air conditioning, because with that enormous bubble canopy over the driving section, hot days in the sun are going to be a bitch.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2016 11:29 PM (noWW6)

45 That is really sad. Was she hot?
jk
I'm glad you're playing. Sorry for your fan and her sister.

Posted by: L, Elle

Thanks, playing was my first love before real estate and it brings me so much joy now that I've retired from RE and can play with little interruption.

I've been married 31 years but if this women wanted me it would take every ounce of resistance in my body to stay away.

She had never talked about this before and I felt horrible for her. She is the sweetest person.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:29 PM (3myMJ)

46 Ted Nugent kinda sucks. He's at Alice Cooper level musician.

The only thing good I've heard him do is the Star Spangled Banner that Jimmy Hendrix did better

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:29 PM (2x3L+)

47 I left this very late on the last thread, so Imma just gonna post it here. I found out today according to the laws in NH, if you receive less than 10% of the vote, your delegates go to the top vote getter. Rubio's close at 10.8%. Hope he drops that .9%.
It won't mean much because NH only has 22 delegates.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:30 PM (9iR5/)

48 Every system goes through teething issues in development and shakeout but the F-35 is looking more and more like a very expensive dog.

Even adding 'very' to 'expensive' still leaves a galactic understatement.

A $1,300,000,000,000 project still in beta tests isn't just something that should be allow to be swept into the 'Oops' box in the warehouse.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the Pentagon.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:30 PM (wCF3s)

49 I'm unexcepedly very drunk. Can you give me a synopsis of what this ONT is about?
Posted by: Farmer

WASF.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:24 PM

OK what is WASF? Or YMMV?

I'm an old dude, 60. And happy bday to however was turning 60 in a few days.

You can be 60 and not out of it yet. I hope.

Posted by: Farmer at February 09, 2016 11:30 PM (o/90i)

50 Philippe Reines and Marc Ambinder are both gay, right? Service journalism.

Posted by: bjk at February 09, 2016 11:30 PM (cCZyy)

51 The author of Leo's link should be slapped up along side his head

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:30 PM (voOPb)

52 I like Conservative Jews, like J.J. Sefton

I don't like Commie-Jews like Bernie Sanders.

There it is.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2016 11:31 PM (1ijHg)

53 I always liked the one where a British general was
told not to take the Hindu country of Sind. The message arrived too late
so he replied with "Peccavi".

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (fC9RO)


I understood that was not actually a message made by the General, but instead it was a competition by a London paper of the time as to what he should have said.

Of course, I don't care about it enough to either fully remember or do five minutes worth of research on the intertube.

peccavi are generally found in the southweast of the North American continent. Related to pigs, these Tayasuidae are known both for their tenacity and adaption to a harsh environment, but also for their dogged resistance and aggressiveness to predators. Many stories have been told of sounders of peccavi treeing hunters until they die of thirst or hunger.

Posted by: kindltot at February 09, 2016 11:31 PM (q2o38)

54 Donald, F-22 thingies, lots, please.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:31 PM (MQEz6)

55 I say, Jeeves. I don't like the sound of these Black Shorts fellows! Not a bit.

Posted by: bertie wooster at February 09, 2016 11:31 PM (WOyz5)

56 I pray that Joe Biden jumps back in the race and we have Trump vs. Biden cage match in the Thunderdome. Democracy sure ain't pretty, why try to deny it.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (0VO5Q)

57 I have a friend who's a big Rubio fan. Mostly because he's a pro-life Catholic.

Anyway she said today that one of the reasons she likes him so much is because he's not an "angry candidate".

I just have a hard time understanding this mindset.

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (f3Iw2)

58 Something has been doing laps on my roof all day and driving the cats bonkers. Hope it's squirrels and not rats and very glad it's the roof and not the attic.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (GDulk)

59 Nugent can shred some guitar, songwriting is OK, not standout.

I give him a break just because he kicks total ass defending the 2nd Amendment and the rest of the Founding Principles.

He can go out of the box easily though, he's a loose cannon and hyper as hell.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (3myMJ)

60 Buenos nachos.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (EVV0Q)

61 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at February 09, 2016 11:33 PM (TEdU9)

62 Eric Johnson puled off a mean Star Spangled Banner, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2016 11:33 PM (NHG6e)

63 So, me and Farmer are semi drunk. Who else?
I'm celebrating Trump winning NH.
TRUMP!!!

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:33 PM (2x3L+)

64 Is it...safe?

Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:33 PM (qUNWi)

65 Hmmm, might have to try giving the Nork sat a listen.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:34 PM (GUBah)

66 63
So, me and Farmer are semi drunk. Who else?
-------
Not there yet, but working on it.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:34 PM (9iR5/)

67 Is it...safe?
Posted by: eleven

That's what I want to know.

Posted by: Der Weisse Engel at February 09, 2016 11:34 PM (zmW4B)

68 Aren't squirrels just rats with furry tails?

Posted by: Willy J at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (Nkdwp)

69 Re: No More Parachuting at Fort Bragg: That churning sound I hear is my dad (82nd Airborne, WWII) rolling over in his grave (and yes, the All-American division fought in the Battle of the Bulge; it wasn't just the Screaming Eagles). No thanks to the pajama boys in the present-day Air Farce.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (3C9q2)

70 OK what is WASF? Or YMMV?

I'm an old dude, 60. And happy bday to whoever is turning 60 in a few days.

You can be 60 and not out of it yet. I hope.
Posted by: Farmer


Sorry,

We
Are
So
Fucked

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (wCF3s)

71 So, me and Farmer are semi drunk. Who else?
-------
Not there yet, but working on it.

Posted by: Old Blue

I've got a cold, does that count?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (3myMJ)

72 65
Hmmm, might have to try giving the Nork sat a listen.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:34 PM (GUBah)
---------From what US Space Command is saying, the damn thing is tumbling so bad that it is essentially just a worthless piece of space junk.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (9iR5/)

73 What about someone who tried to keep a fellow in jail for 16 years for stealing a calculator?


Heh. You linked the New York Times. You know, people who read the Times actually know less that people who read nothing at all.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (rwI+c)

74 So, me and Farmer are semi drunk. Who else?>>>

Me!!!

Posted by: Hillary at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (Nkdwp)

75 One of my best friends ever happened to be Jewish.


Actually he was Korean but still....

Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (qUNWi)

76
Land Yacht, meet 11' 8" underpass.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (RrDm2)

77 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (EzgxV)

78 Good Stuff in the ONT.

Posted by: Phoulish Phodie at February 09, 2016 11:36 PM (H+tds)

79 I've got a cold, does that count?



Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (3myMJ)------Depends. How many bottles of Nyquil have you drunk?

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (9iR5/)

80 He wanted to play it off as a criticism of joos who as perennial victims should have more respect for gun rights.

But when he singles out a single group defined by their ethnicity, and labels their photos with flags of the jooish state, and without regard for their actual affinity or affiliation with either that religion or that state, he is demonstrating anti Semitism.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (EZebt)

81 [hands Meremortal's traceback address to flying monkeys, makes throat-slashing gesture]


Posted by: Maetenloch at February 09, 2016 11:27 PM (pAlYe)

Yeah, you both know I'm just making excuses for not reading it all yet.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (3myMJ)

82 10 >> The Texas prosecutor who deliberately sent that innocent guy to death row should be charged with attempted murder.

I agree completely, iforgot. He tried to murder that man, using the power of gubmint. To my way of thinking, every time a prosecutor tries to hide/fails to disclose potentially exculpatory evidence, he/she should be tried for a felony with a mandatory jail term.

The gubmint is immune, but the citizens ain't. Just look at the EPA mine spill in CO for another example.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (gyKtp)

83 Which leads one to suspect that the whole subhuman mongrel thing maybe wasn't just a thoughtless poor choice of words.

That comment is spot on.

Posted by: Blano at February 09, 2016 11:38 PM (heN73)

84 Squirrels are NOT rats with bushy tails.


There are lots of differences. Dammit.

Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:38 PM (qUNWi)

85 Aren't squirrels just rats with furry tails?
Posted by: Willy
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But, much better PR.

Posted by: Donald Trump at February 09, 2016 11:38 PM (RrDm2)

86 Posted by: Willy J at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (Nkdwp)

Pretty much. They have a way better PR dept. though. Being from Colorado, I have nearly a phobia of all things small, furry, and disease ridden, and even so I still find I'd rather have a squirrel than a rat on the roof.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 09, 2016 11:38 PM (GDulk)

87
Your
Mileage
May
Vary

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (BK3ZS)

88 "How many bottles of Nyquil have you drunk?"

Being a nightowl I'm still on the DayQuill. Nightquill and bed about 1AM.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (3myMJ)

89 From what US Space Command is saying, the damn thing is tumbling so bad that it is essentially just a worthless piece of space junk.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:35 PM (9iR5/)



There seems to be some inconsistent messaging on that: http://tinyurl.com/j294f5v

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (GUBah)

90 Is it...safe?
Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:33 PM (qUNWi)


I'm going to the dentist tomorrow.

I mentioned to a co-worker who used to be a dental tech that the problem with dentists is that they watch Marathon Man and criticize technique.

She laughed. She said I didn't know half of it.

Posted by: kindltot at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (q2o38)

91 Oh shit, Btian Williams is on MSNBC panel and not allowed to talk.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (2x3L+)

92 I met a Jew once. He kept saying I was dead and complained about a lack of refried beans.

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (zt+N6)

93 Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (EZebt)

81 [hands Meremortal's traceback address to flying monkeys, makes throat-slashing gesture]


Posted by: Maetenloch at February 09, 2016 11:27 PM (pAlYe)

Yeah, you both know I'm just making excuses for not reading it all yet.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:37 PM (3myMJ)

Lots of dirty secrets come out here in the ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (voOPb)

94 Being a nightowl I'm still on the DayQuill. Nightquill and bed about 1AM.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:39 PM (3myMJ)
------OK, you're good. Carry on.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:40 PM (9iR5/)

95 To my way of thinking, every time a prosecutor tries to hide/fails to disclose potentially exculpatory evidence, he/she should be tried for a felony with a mandatory jail term.
-------------

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Nifong at February 09, 2016 11:40 PM (RrDm2)

96 Squirrels are NOT rats with bushy tails.


There are lots of differences. Dammit.>>>

They both invade my house and wreck shit. So shoot on sight makes them the same.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 09, 2016 11:40 PM (Nkdwp)

97 Something has been doing laps on my roof all day and driving the cats bonkers.

Give teh kittehs a hefty dose of catnip: it's Kitty Prozac. After the initial buzz wears off, they relax and take a cat nap.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 09, 2016 11:40 PM (3C9q2)

98 The Playboy Land Yacht was the precursor to Damnation Alley.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (GdFQh)

99 I think we should get a final ruling on this from CBD.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (EZebt)

100 #63: I'm certainly in a great mood. First, the Broncos had their victory parade today (they went right by my office), and then there was the NH primary. I'm happier than a womyn's studies major on her first day of college, looking at all the boys there and trying to decide which one to accuse of rape first.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (0OG8D)

101 The F-35 article leaves out one of the worst single issues, which is that the jet is tethered to a ground system, ALIS.

ALIS is a networked computer setup meant to do things like predictive failure analysis. If the retroencabulator is starting to show symptoms prognostic of early failure, ALIS will log that and automatically order a new retroencabulator from the nearest logistics depot. Saves money. Reduces the amount of time the jet is down on the ramp, waiting for parts. Stuff like this has been showing up in commercial airline aviation for dogs' years now.

Except the architecture is set up stupidly. If ALIS doesn't clear the jet for flight, the damn thing won't fly. Literally won't fly. Will not respond to pilot commands. Cannot take off.

And since ALIS is on the net, it's massively vulnerable to hacker intrusion, just as nearly every other Fedzilla cyber system has demonstrated itself to be. Federal and military IT security is a farcical trainwreck.

And ALIS is way behind the code maturity curve to begin with. They just got the latest builds upgraded off of being hosted on Windows XP, many moons after Redmond quit supporting XP. (Microsoft of course did continue to quietly and privately support XP for certain important clients like DoD, but this is an example of how messed up the program is.)

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2016 11:42 PM (noWW6)

102 >>99 I think we should get a final ruling on this from CBD.

But he's an anti-Semite Semite

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:42 PM (voOPb)

103 "Squirrels are NOT rats with bushy tails."

Around here some people call deer "rats on stilts".

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:43 PM (3myMJ)

104 The squirrel is not a type of weasel, but it tries hard.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:43 PM (MQEz6)

105 The Playboy Land Yacht was the precursor to Damnation Alley.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (GdFQh)



I'd still rather have the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:43 PM (GUBah)

106 What about someone who tried to keep a fellow in jail for 16 years for stealing a calculator?


----------------------------

There's GOT to be more to that story.

As for the substance of the column (Cruz is mean, Cruz is vindictive), that may be true.

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (YOxw1)

107 >>> Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (0OG8D)
-----
Me and you, dude. Same place.
Yay us!!

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (2x3L+)

108 Country Singer, my information was from earlier this morning. It's still not a satellite satellite, more like a test for a nuke warhead. The Norks are sneaky little bastards.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (9iR5/)

109 "The Playboy Land Yacht was the precursor to Damnation Alley."

Landmaster!

The studio thought that movie was going to out-pull _Star Wars_ at the box office.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (noWW6)

110 100 #63: I'm certainly in a great mood. First, the Broncos had their victory parade today (they went right by my office), and then there was the NH primary. I'm happier than a womyn's studies major on her first day of college, looking at all the boys there and trying to decide which one to accuse of rape first.


Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (0OG8D)



When is the Patriots victory parade?

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (zt+N6)

111 34 I was ursine raped. In the ass.
Posted by: Leotardo Dederpio



You know you liked it. Stop denying it. You did give me your number afterwards. I enjoyed are intimate love making too. Please call back. I have left you several messages.

Posted by: The Bear at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (6rvJl)

112 And that is exactly who we need for this episode of
Is It Anti Semitic?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (EZebt)

113 I don't have the Playboy Land-yacht, but I am giving some thought to picking up a travel trailer. My pied-a-terre for those times when I cannot or will not bring a sweet young thing back to the lair.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (/33sy)

114 A big section of the f35/article was.devoted.to the Can't Dogfight meme, which I saw debunked at.the time but endlessly repeated.

Basically the tests in question were some in 2013/that were done with an earlier revision of the control software, with the angle of attack and the engine throttle.both limited.in software. Wosshisname left that out of his half truths and its been repeated a thousand times.since.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (N/zr9)

115 Old Blue, I concur wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (GUBah)

116 There's GOT to be more to that story.

David Brooks' Dirty Hit On Ted Cruz: How Pundits Lose Credibility http://bit.ly/1O2j5Xr

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (rwI+c)

117 Screw the spaghetti and the Air Farce! Change into your PT gear; we're running Currahee.

Posted by: zombie capt. sobel at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (WOyz5)

118 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:41 PM (0OG8D)

Hey PW! I saw some of that on TV today, what a crowd! I heard there were a million, that's not possible is it?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:45 PM (3myMJ)

119 Ted Nugent, meet Gene Simmons.

Posted by: Du Hast Ein Date at February 09, 2016 11:46 PM (VdICR)

120 I'd still rather have the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.
Posted by: Country Singer


Real: Mini-mog with NBC kit

Not-Real: Herkimer Battle Jitney

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:46 PM (wCF3s)

121 When is the Patriots victory parade?
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#twoweeks

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:46 PM (9iR5/)

122 F-35's are going to be pretty expensive drones shot down by F-16's during training exercises.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:46 PM (MQEz6)

123 When is the Patriots victory parade?

About four months after the Cubbies have theirs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 09, 2016 11:46 PM (3C9q2)

124 " If ALIS doesn't clear the jet for flight, the damn thing won't fly. Literally won't fly. Will not respond to pilot commands. Cannot take off.

And since ALIS is on the net, it's massively vulnerable to hacker intrusion, just as nearly every other Fedzilla cyber system has demonstrated itself to be"

Well...that sounds like a massive vulnerability.

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2016 11:47 PM (3DIzJ)

125 I am not sure that fretting about what a guitar player said is equal to worrying about knife attacks in Israel.

I figure I only have so much run-time on my adrenals, so I will worry about the important shjt, and not a soap opera-to-order about if someone is anti-semitic, when I can find anti-semitic openly brayed and celebrated.

Call me to care when he starts exhorting people to carry out knife attacks. Or instructing his followers to burn women to death. Or even use scissors to murder political opponents.

Posted by: kindltot at February 09, 2016 11:47 PM (q2o38)

126 Goddamned F-35.
Why don't we just buy the SU-37 Flanker-F and be done with it? We already rely on Russki space-launch....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:47 PM (/33sy)

127 "58 Something has been doing laps on my roof all day and driving the cats bonkers. Hope it's squirrels and not rats and very glad it's the roof and not the attic.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 09, 2016 11:32 PM (GDulk)"



Bats in the Belfry?


(I keed.....I keed!)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2016 11:47 PM (McRlu)

128 Hey PW! I saw some of that on TV today, what a crowd! I heard there were a million, that's not possible is it?
--------
Local news station said that the Denver police discounted that earlier, but then later on said, "Yeah, go with that number."

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (9iR5/)

129 #107: Yay, us!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (0OG8D)

130 Land Yachy, Pontiac Aztec need I say MOAR?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (voOPb)

131 >>> When is the Patriots victory parade?
----
Same time as the FOX parade is with Rubio.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (2x3L+)

132 later on said, "Yeah, go with that number."

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (9iR5/

Never seen that much orange, it was cool.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:49 PM (3myMJ)

133
109 "The Playboy Land Yacht was the precursor to Damnation Alley."

Landmaster!

The studio thought that movie was going to out-pull _Star Wars_ at the box office.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2016 11:44 PM (noWW6)

The scorpions were too small.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:49 PM (MQEz6)

134 131 >>> When is the Patriots victory parade?
----
Same time as the FOX parade is with Rubio.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 09, 2016 11:48 PM (2x3L+)



There ya go.

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2016 11:49 PM (zt+N6)

135 Squirrels are peaceful critters that eat fruits and nuts goddammit.

Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)

136 #128: I can believe it! The streets were so packed with people, I quickly gave up on getting anything for lunch.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (0OG8D)

137 Or we could wait for the T-50, and just buy the plane that can and will blast the F-35 right out of the sky...

It's embarrassing that the nation that put men on the Moon can't build a decent modern fighter.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (/33sy)

138
135 Squirrels are peaceful critters that eat fruits and nuts goddammit.
Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)


..and baby birds...

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (MQEz6)

139 Did you know that looking at the color orange and/or smelling an orange gives you an instant intelligence boost?

It doesn't last though.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (3myMJ)

140 Gilmore is still standing! Even though Other has 3,022 more votes than he has. The man is tenacious if nothing else. Go Gilmore!

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (9iR5/)

141 I can believe it! The streets were so packed with people, I quickly gave up on getting anything for lunch.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (0OG8D)

Thought the state would be too high for a parade

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (voOPb)

142 Landmaster, family truckster, whatever

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (GdFQh)

143 Not Urban but a fun looking assault vehicle. Hagglunds BV206

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYm5USbSt8c

Posted by: Willy J. at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (Nkdwp)

144 95 >> This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Nifong at February 09, 2016 11:40 PM (RrDm2)

You are the far too rare example of what should happen to corrupt prosecutors.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (gyKtp)

145 #118: It may well have been a million people. The sidewalks were just absolutely clogged with the crowds.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (0OG8D)

146 >>>Did you know that looking at the color orange and/or smelling an orange gives you an instant intelligence boost?

It doesn't last though.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (3myMJ)<<<

That's a goddamn lie.

Posted by: John Boehner, drinking a Screwdriver at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (H9MG5)

147 well, can't stay up too late tonight
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (uZNvH)

148 Smartest man in the WOOOOORRRRLLLLDDD!

Posted by: charlie crist at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (WOyz5)

149 Jim - I hesitate to put this here. I received an email from a close friend and old roommate. But, WTH, excerpt:

It’s an all-volunteer crew, well a few of them are daughters.

I’m looking at a Pacific Seacraft 37

For an Atlantic Crossing (2017-1 in the planning stages. Looking for one more crew member, have three ready to go.

Posted by: Mike Nifong at February 09, 2016 11:52 PM (RrDm2)

150 Ooops. Off with Nifong sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (RrDm2)

151 #141: I suspect parades are even better when you're high. That's just a guess, though.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (0OG8D)

152
137 Or we could wait for the T-50, and just buy the plane that can and will blast the F-35 right out of the sky...

It's embarrassing that the nation that put men on the Moon can't build a decent modern fighter.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (/33sy)

When you try to make it a combination fighter/bomber/schoolbus/snowplow,

it sucks.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (MQEz6)

153 The gubmint is immune, but the citizens ain't.
-----------------------------

The evil prosecutor got disbarred. That's IT.

Don't Mess With Texas, my ass.

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (YOxw1)

154 Thought the state would be too high for a parade

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (voOPb)

Most of the state been smoking it for decades, so production hasn't changed much just because it's legal.

That's why it passed.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (3myMJ)

155 135 Squirrels are peaceful critters that eat fruits and nuts goddammit.
Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)
***
Says you.

Boston, February of '96 or '97 it must have been.

I was in my Dr. Zhivago winter-kit and crossing the Public Gardens, having just left a nearby tobacconist (remember those?) with a pack of Yenidje cigarettes.

Squirrels see me with a brown bag in hand, and assume I've bought peanuts for the furry little beggars....

I had to peel off my coat in sub-zero temps to flush the little fuckers out. They mugged me...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (/33sy)

156
137 Or we could wait for the T-50, and just buy the plane that can and will blast the F-35 right out of the sky...

It's embarrassing that the nation that put men on the Moon can't build a decent modern fighter.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (/33sy)



Well we could. The problem is that they want the fighter to be a navy fighter and a marine harrier replacement, and an airforce fighter, and want it to do the job of every single aircraft out there.

We'd probably suck at going to the moon too if you wanted the craft to also be a low earth orbit vehicle, and a satellite deployment system, etc.

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2016 11:54 PM (zt+N6)

157 It's a fighter plane and a dessert topping.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 09, 2016 11:54 PM (rwI+c)

158 It's embarrassing that the nation safety valve of the world that put men pale penis personson the Moon what is still responsible for all the evils can't build a decent modern fighter...
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


Fixed for more of an accurate assessment of our situation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2016 11:54 PM (wCF3s)

159 I vote for Megaweapon from Warrior of the Lost World.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (FkBIv)

160 When you try to make it a combination fighter/bomber/schoolbus/snowplow,



it sucks.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (MQEz6)
-------------------------
Tampon dispenser, diaper changing station, breastfeeding lounge...

Posted by: iforgot at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (YOxw1)

161 Sadly I cannot drink this week. I busted that rotator thingie in my right shoulder last Saturday. As a result that arm is no longer one of the extremities of my body that go up.

And I've been munching on ibuprofens just to be able to move the steering wheel enough to get to and from work. So, no booze.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (6FqZa)

162 I've been reading about the F-35. There is a chance that it won't be a complete disaster.

I do think it is true that it can't dogfight like an F-16, but it's not designed to do that; it's designed to be a flying bomb truck, and to shoot down enemy planes before they even see it. The Pentagon claims that in simulations, when four F-35s encounter four F-16s, they splash the F-16s before the F-16s see them.

If they get it basically working, it should be upgradable. Computers can be swapped out, sensors can be swapped out, bombs and missiles can be swapped out... if we can get it past the hump, it can be improved over time. And the old planes are old and getting more expensive to maintain.

One thing I would like to see: force LockMart to give the design to Boeing and let Boeing build an "F-36". If Boeing can get the bugs out of the design and get it to operational status before LockMart does, cancel the F-35 and switch over to the F-36 program. The Pentagon has put all the eggs into one basket, and LockMart is going to make a tonne of money from the F-35 no matter how long it takes for them to get the thing working.

Also the Pentagon must never again be allowed to run a program this way. Any new planes must be incremental improvements, not "giant leap forward" designs like the F-35.

The genius of the Obama administration was to cancel the F-22 program early, on the theory that the F-35 was going to be almost as good. The F-22 turned out way better than expected and everyone agrees now that cancelling it early was a mistake. Given that the F-35 is nearly as expensive as the F-22, I'd favor spending the money to re-start the F-22 program and build more.

Posted by: mr_jack at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (M59SC)

163 152
137 Or we could wait for the T-50, and just buy the plane that can and will blast the F-35 right out of the sky...

It's embarrassing that the nation that put men on the Moon can't build a decent modern fighter.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (/33sy)

When you try to make it a combination fighter/bomber/schoolbus/snowplow,

it sucks.
Posted by: eman at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (MQEz6)
***
That old joke about a camel being a horse made by committee ain't a joke.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (/33sy)

164 It's embarrassing that the nation that put men on the Moon can't build a decent modern fighter.....
--------
We did. It's called the F-22. The thing with the F-35 is that they tried to do too much with one airframe. They wanted CAS, dog fighting capabilities, STOL/VTOL, carrier launched, stealth and it had to do the dishes because the pilots were too lazy.
This brings to mind the reason the ME-262 didn't go into production in time to make a difference in WWII. Hitler wanted the 262 to be able to do ground attack like the Stuka.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (9iR5/)

165 California's "unprecedented mass forgiveness of convicts" raises more than a few questions


Comes the revolution, as the Reds used to say, on day #2 I propose the immediate execution of every mother-loving convict in prison at the time, just to show all the assholes out there that we mean business. I don't care if they're in for writing bad checks. We're making a point.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (oKE6c)

166 Hey Polliwog, if you're still on, I have bad news. I read about the next expansion to wow, and it turns out they're just letting gnomes.be Hunters. There is no new Gnome Hunter class.

Oh, and did you get your sink fixed?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 09, 2016 11:56 PM (N/zr9)

167 I suspect parades are even better when you're high. That's just a guess, though.


Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (0OG8D)

For those of you who haven't had the pleasure, Prothonotary Warbler is intelligent before he sniffs the orange.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:56 PM (3myMJ)

168 #139: Must be from a quarterback's survival instinct kicking in at the sight of Vonn Miller and Derrick Wolfe and Aqib Talib tearing through his offensive line like tissue paper to get at him.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:56 PM (0OG8D)

169 Not Urban but a fun looking assault vehicle. Hagglunds BV206

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYm5USbSt8c

Posted by: Willy J. at February 09, 2016 11:51 PM (Nkdwp)



That thing looks like an updated/artic Gamma Goat.

https://youtu.be/bMlSA_MMDM0

Posted by: Country Singer at February 09, 2016 11:57 PM (GUBah)

170 "Heh. You linked the New York Times. You know, people who read the Times actually know less that people who read nothing at all."

Would the Texas Tribune be any better?

http://www.texastribune.org/2012/07/23/cruz-supreme-court-work-heart-campaign/

Maybe something in this link could tweak your interest?

http://www.truthabouttedcruz.com/

Posted by: Russtovich at February 09, 2016 11:57 PM (pFXle)

171 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/697114780092362752

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/697115032841113600

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/697115446042951680

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/697116086362202112

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/697116670586855425

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (XY09C)

172 #167: Thanks, Meremortal! You're pretty awesome, yourself!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (0OG8D)

173 Re: the all-role airframe, there's a Limey saying that fits...

"Horses for courses"

Fighters for fighting; ground-attack aircraft for ground-attack; carrier-based for carrier-based.

These Swiss-army planes are teh suk.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (/33sy)

174 Would the Texas Tribune be any better?

Noted above. http://bit.ly/1O2j5Xr

You guys can't tell your ass from a hole in the ground.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (rwI+c)

175 And I've been munching on ibuprofens just to be able to move the steering wheel enough to get to and from work. So, no booze.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (6FqZa)

Sorry to hear that, bud. Got a fiddler friend who grimaced all the way through Orange Blossom Special the other night. He gets his done on the 25th. Best wishes for a good recovery.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:59 PM (3myMJ)

176 Does anyone think it is possible that Ted means all those Socialist of Jewish heritage?

Posted by: bill-o at February 09, 2016 11:59 PM (AWwDY)

177 @135

Squirrels are assholes.

They dig up my lawn first to bury nuts then they dig up my lawn trying to find the nuts they buried.

Fun fact: Squirrels find about 10pct of the nuts they bury.

Assholes!

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2016 11:59 PM (WVvzl)

178 She wants her sister to come to America but her
sister won't leave. She was so sad, especially about the fact the people
had voted for socialism and are paying such a horrible price.



She said basic necessities are very hard to get.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (3myMJ)

And still the lure of free shit is irresistible no matter how many times socialism fails.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:00 AM (NPofj)

179 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (0OG8D)

*tips hat, sneezes*

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:00 AM (3myMJ)

180 Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2016 11:58 PM (XY09C)

You are a mensch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:00 AM (kpqmD)

181 @165 your state keeps going nuttier & nuttier

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:00 AM (voOPb)

182 Fighters for fighting; ground-attack aircraft for ground-attack; carrier-based for carrier-based.

Have we met?

Posted by: F-4, F-18 at February 10, 2016 12:01 AM (GPdWi)

183 That thing looks like an updated/artic Gamma Goat.>>>

Maybe based off that since the Hagglands is also amphibious.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:01 AM (Nkdwp)

184 Well, my, my, my.

Posted by: Lt. Joe Kenda at February 10, 2016 12:01 AM (T/5A0)

185 Did somebody say "goat"? This is a sexual emergency! ULULULULULULULULULULU!!!!

Posted by: Mohammed Mahmoud Muhammad at February 10, 2016 12:02 AM (kpqmD)

186 The Meatball just sent out a tweet that the Decision Desk had over four million hits. Just tweeted back that it was the Moron Horde, hitting F5 like crack fueled monkeys.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 12:03 AM (9iR5/)

187 boulder terlit hobo

Sorry to hear about your shoulder.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:03 AM (voOPb)

188 Speaking of Nifong, ESPN is doing a 30 for 30 doc on the Duke (no) Rape case. I actually want to see it, if only to see ESPN tie itself in knots trying to justify its bullshit coverage of it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (6rvJl)

189 And still the lure of free shit is irresistible no matter how many times socialism fails.


Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:00 AM (NPofj)

This lady knows better, but then, she's in America where we are still amateurs at socialism.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (3myMJ)

190 186 The Meatball just sent out a tweet that the Decision Desk had over four million hits. Just tweeted back that it was the Moron Horde, hitting F5 like crack fueled monkeys.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 12:03 AM (9iR5/)

I prefer the term "coked-up bonobo" myself, but that usually has a more salacious connotation.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (kpqmD)

191 Well first trip through The Princess Who Caused Fear Vol II clocks in at just over 35,300 words. Will take another skim through everything before compiling and exporting to check the formatting. So hopefully this short story collection will be live by Sunday.

And in the San Francisco story, finally thought of a band name for who's playing in the night club - Spastic Colon because none of the fans like the band's real name - Plastic Cola.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (QbyMe)

192 I'm not fretting what a guitar player said.
I'm saying what a guitar player fretted.
*rimshot*

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (VdICR)

193 This talk about the F-35 takes me back to what I had heard many years ago about their very first design review.

They went into this thing, their first design review on what was probably the most expensive project of any kind in the history of the world (am I exaggerating?), and what happened?

They were 35% OVERWEIGHT.

Huh? If you know ANYTHING about aircraft, you know that how much the damn thing WEIGHS, is about as important a parameter as there is. Apparently some influential person has some special way of joining parts of the plane together, or something (it's been a while), it weighed too much, and they went with it anyway.

I think of this as the "Y2K" of systems engineering.

Posted by: Optimizer at February 10, 2016 12:05 AM (/q6+P)

194 Home from New Hampshire Decision Desk. Got to watch Hillary get curb stomped in real time.

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2016 12:05 AM (AfsKp)

195 And still the lure of free shit is irresistible no matter how many times socialism fails.>>>

It has to be scary that you have to give up the promise of free shit that never comes. For the gamble of working for your own shit when all you've seen is stores with empty shelves.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:05 AM (Nkdwp)

196 @184 Homicide Hunter one of my fav shows. Kenda cracks me up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:05 AM (voOPb)

197 Uncle.Palpatine : what others me is that the guy who wrote the article, before he decided to use the half-truths in that particular way, had argued that it was pointless to test the plane when they were debugging the engine under those.limitations.

And that everyone else repeats them.with such certainty.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:06 AM (N/zr9)

198 Squirrels are peaceful critters that eat fruits and nuts goddammit.

Posted by: eleven at February 09, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)


Well, they had better pick up their game. They ain't eating enough.

Posted by: San Francisco at February 10, 2016 12:07 AM (Z8fuk)

199 So how many billions of dollars have they flushed on the F35, when we have far less costly combat plane designs that actually, you know, work?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:07 AM (kpqmD)

200 Engines with limitations, where have I heard that before?

Oh right, the TF-30 and the TFX F-111 program.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:08 AM (QbyMe)

201 #192 That pun was a bridge too far, Bourbon Chicken.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (WOyz5)

202 Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:04 AM (VdICR)

How do you get a drummer to leave your porch?

Pay him for the pizza.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (3myMJ)

203 197 Uncle.Palpatine : what others me is that the guy who wrote the article, before he decided to use the half-truths in that particular way, had argued that it was pointless to test the plane when they were debugging the engine under those.limitations.

And that everyone else repeats them.with such certainty.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:06 AM (N/zr9)
***
Simulations are simulations. Let them test the damned things under real conditions. Only fair, and we might learn something, one way or the other.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (/33sy)

204 Mike Hammer. Yeah, amigo. Email me with more info on the Transatlantic.

I'm planning one as a solo voyage, so it'd be good to get one in for practice, first.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (McRlu)

205 When I look at what is happening, I am reminded of the Wrath of Khan ending.

Sulu: "We're not gonna make it, are we." (not a question)

Kirk looks at David, David shakes his head "no."

Seriously, I just want the end to be quick. I'm not a good survivor. Hell, I paint pictures, I'm not a good anything. Just a big explosion that kills me while I see it coming. That's not too much to ask, is it?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (B8JRQ)

206 Yeah if I had been in prison for twenty years, I wouldn't have settled for just getting him disbarred.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:09 AM (VdICR)

207 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

Some war hero warned us about them as he walked out the door.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 10, 2016 12:10 AM (WVvzl)

208 Comes the revolution, as the Reds used to say, on day #2 I propose the immediate execution of every
mother-loving convict in prison at the time, just to show all the
assholes out there that we mean business. I don't care if they're in for
writing bad checks. We're making a point.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2016 11:55 PM (oKE6c)

Call it "mass exoneration" and the leftists will be on board.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (T78UI)

209 Also... About the whole horses for.courses thing... The Israelis bombed Osiraq with F 16s and F 15s.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (N/zr9)

210 Thanks for distracting me from this cold you cats, it's ugly.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (3myMJ)

211 Squirrels are good for Streamers and Gumbo.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (NHG6e)

212 Evenin' horde.

How goes it.

Can I just say damn kudos to Maet. So much content and the horde pegs in on one or two subjects.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (hlMPp)

213
Call it "mass exoneration" and the leftists will be on board.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (T78UI)

Carousel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)

214 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

MONORAIL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (FkBIv)

215 214 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

MONORAIL!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (FkBIv)

What's it called?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)

216 Well, they had better pick up their game. They ain't eating enough.
Posted by: San Francisco at February 10, 2016 12:07 AM (Z8fuk)

You've never seen them at my various bird feeders

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:13 AM (voOPb)

217 212 Evenin' horde.

How goes it.


Just fan-fucking-tastic. How 'bout you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:13 AM (kpqmD)

218 209 Also... About the whole horses for.courses thing... The Israelis bombed Osiraq with F 16s and F 15s.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (N/zr9)
***
They used what they had.

Were there B52's in their inventory, they'd have used those, if they fit the mission-profile.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:13 AM (/33sy)

219 215 214 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

MONORAIL!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (FkBIv)

What's it called?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)



MONORAIL!

Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (zt+N6)

220 Got to watch Hillary get curb stomped in real time.
-------------------------------

Damn, I want to see her dismembered by the FBI.

Posted by: iforgot at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (YOxw1)

221 219 215 214 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

MONORAIL!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (FkBIv)

What's it called?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)



MONORAIL!
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (zt+N6)
***
Is there a chance the track will bend?

Not on your life, my Hindu friend...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (/33sy)

222 And I was under the I.pression that the F111/eventually became a really good bomber....

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:15 AM (N/zr9)

223 >>damn kudos to Maet. So much content and the horde pegs in on one or two subjects.
------
He's too good for us RWC

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:15 AM (voOPb)

224 Maybe based off that since the Hagglands is also amphibious.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:01 AM (Nkdwp)


The Hagglunds BV206 looks like two M29 Weasels coupled together.

Posted by: San Francisco at February 10, 2016 12:16 AM (Z8fuk)

225 Slightly OT.

Russia is mobilizing the SW part of their military. Turkey is mobilizing, the Saudis are mobilizing.
Any others?


Not sure I like the 1914 vibe here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (u82oZ)

226 ... and to the reporters who bet they could get coolidge to say more than two words, cal said "you lose".

and fuck nugent.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (WTSFk)

227 Is there a chance the track will bend?

Not on your life, my Hindu friend...


But can it soar, can it fly,
and if so, how very high?

Posted by: Adriane the Airframe Critic ... at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (AoK0a)

228 Jim - As an aside, two biographical books that I have enjoyed, 'Sailing Alone Around the World', by Slocum, $3.50 at ABE, free shipping, and 'Heaven, Hell, and Saltwater', by Crowe. Various used copies on Ebay for ~$12.00

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (RrDm2)

229 221 219 215 214 The F35, the high speed rail of the military industrial complex.

MONORAIL!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (FkBIv)

What's it called?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)



MONORAIL!
Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (zt+N6)
***
Is there a chance the track will bend?

Not on your life, my Hindu friend...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:14 AM (/33sy)



What about us brain dead slobs?

Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (zt+N6)

230 222 And I was under the I.pression that the F111/eventually became a really good bomber....
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:15 AM (N/zr9)
***
It's good, better than a lot of birds out there, true..

But we never had to really put it to the test against WP, did we?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:18 AM (/33sy)

231 Carousel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)

That is certainly more festive.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 10, 2016 12:18 AM (T78UI)

232
Just fan-fucking-tastic. How 'bout you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:13 AM (kpqmD

Fan mutha freakin' fantastic!

Enjoy life!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:18 AM (hlMPp)

233 Slowly reaching g my don't wanna fight the phone no more moment

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (N/zr9)

234 Buzzion, you'll all get kushy jobs...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (/33sy)

235 Not sure I like the 1914 vibe here.

This time don't send the doughboys over there.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (FkBIv)

236 Hi. Here.

Posted by: mindful webworker - concisely at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (wmyHK)

237 Are people really complaining about Ted Nugent pointing out socialist Jews on the very night a socialist Jew won the NH primary?

Posted by: Achilles at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (MiGRM)

238 "and fuck nugent"

cal didn't say that. i did.

* clang *

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (WTSFk)

239 OK, heading over to HA to spread some germs.

The scenery chewing should be off the charts.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (3myMJ)

240 Kreplach, go read the development history of the original F/A-18 from the YF-17. McDonnell-Douglas was brought in by Northrop to win the Navy contract after losing to the F-16 for the USAF.

One of things MDD was try and make the Hornet as fugly as Phantom by adding these jags on the leading edges of the wing and tail. Testing proved they were more hazardous and removed. The YF-17 had bleed slots for air flow over the engine inlets that lead to buffeting issues on the twin tales so they were filled in. Which still did not fix the issue so early Hornets were fitted with strakes on the LEXs to further break up the buffeting airflow so the twin tails would not wag like madly happy puppies. Then there was a spin issue where the software fix was to program the MFD to point an arrow in the direction the pilot should move his stick. And finally we can't forget that NavAir basically signed a waiver on the short range of the A model just get something to replace the A-7 and F-4 because it would have added at least a couple million dollars per plane to stuff more fuel in because they would have had to tweak the fuselage. And to ensure a Hornet will properly rotate from a cat shot, the twin rudders are commanded by the software for both of them to deflect inwards.

Then we can talk about the F-18 Super Hornet which shares nothing in common with the A/C models except the shape, the ejection seat, and data architecture. And is less maneuverable than the A and C models.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:20 AM (QbyMe)

241 >>> Damn, I want to see her dismembered by the FBI.

There year is young.

Monorail means cushy jobs!

Night, Horde!

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2016 12:20 AM (AfsKp)

242 230 222 Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants

F-11 was too heavy for carrier flight decks. A Navy Admiral sacrificed his career to keep the F-11 away from the Navy.

In AF service it did fine, with the Libya raid in 1986 as it's finest hour. And there were a number of aborts and one lost in that raid.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:20 AM (u82oZ)

243 Can I just say damn kudos to Maet. So much content and the horde pegs in on one or two subjects.





Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:11 AM (hlMPp)

----------------------------Isn't there a name for that in the business world? Or perhaps in zoology or biology? Some phenomenon where you have to lay out ten times the necessary consumables in order to get a group to eat any of them at all?Or is it expert moronology?

Posted by: iforgot at February 10, 2016 12:20 AM (YOxw1)

244 232
Just fan-fucking-tastic. How 'bout you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:13 AM (kpqmD

Fan mutha freakin' fantastic!

Enjoy life!!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:18 AM (hlMPp)
***
As my best and dearest friend in the world, a lady with a truly lovely heart and soul, and a rump and rack to match them, says, "Life is nasty, brutish, and short. Enjoy."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:20 AM (/33sy)

245 This time don't send the doughboys over there.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
-----
I like ze Pillsbury.

Posted by: Mademoiselle from Armentieres at February 10, 2016 12:21 AM (RrDm2)

246 Flying squirrels nested (and noisily ran around a lot) in our previous attic. Lived in NOVA most of my life and had never seen one before. They are adorable with huge eyes and seeing them run to take off on a glide is awesome. They don't really love being raced around the yard in a labrador's mouth, tho.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 12:22 AM (GzDYP)

247 Palp, you're right, we didn't, but I'm sure Obama has a plan...

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:22 AM (N/zr9)

248 The Hagglunds BV206 looks like two M29 Weasels coupled together.>>>

Could be. And I really know very little about the Hagglunds saw them just the other night on Diesel Brothers show. I do like the type of vehicle since I own an Argo 8 wheel for swamping. The Hagglunds do drive all 4 tracks on both sides of the articulation which is kinda cool.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:22 AM (Nkdwp)

249 How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb?
None. The keyboard player does it with his left hand.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (VdICR)

250 Are people really complaining about Ted Nugent pointing out socialist Jews on the very night a socialist Jew won the NH primary?
Posted by: Achilles
-------------

This is about me,isn't it?

Posted by: George Soros at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (RrDm2)

251 225 Slightly OT.

Russia is mobilizing the SW part of their military. Turkey is mobilizing, the Saudis are mobilizing.
Any others?


Not sure I like the 1914 vibe here.
Posted by: NaCly Dog



Relax Peasants!! I Gotz This, YO!!

Posted by: Shit Midas at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (6rvJl)

252 223 >>damn kudos to Maet. So much content and the horde pegs in on one or two subjects.
------
He's too good for us RWC
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:15 AM (voOPb)

I'm just saying he puts way too much effort in a. ONT. If something catches my eye I'll read it but there is so much content. Just post an article or pic and be done with it. (And this is in no way criticizing Maet. Just think there is too much effort in the ONT.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (hlMPp)

253 247 Palp, you're right, we didn't, but I'm sure Obama has a plan...
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:22 AM (N/zr9)
***
God preserve and defend us, and forefend against the day we face Gomer again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:24 AM (/33sy)

254 The F-111F became a really good bomber. But it had a simplified version of the F-111D Mk II avionics. Not a single version of the F-111 shared the exact same suite of avionics. For a plane that was supposed to represent commonality, none of their cockpits even looked the same either. And there was at least four different versions of the TF-30 used for the F-111A/B/C/D/E/F earth pigs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:24 AM (QbyMe)

255 92 Buzzion

I heard that!

Posted by: speedster1 at February 10, 2016 12:25 AM (vUcdz)

256 Are people really complaining about Ted Nugent pointing out socialist Jews on the very night a socialist Jew won the NH primary?

Posted by: Achilles at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (MiGRM)


If he had simply called out the listed people as socialist Jews, or even self-loathing Jews, none of us would be upset. But to mark each mug shot with a littlle Israeli flag, implying that they are doing the bidding of Israel, puts him in Stormfront country.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:25 AM (Z8fuk)

257 Anna, if you're single, we should date....

If you're married, well, we can work around that....

Love a lady who knows her military aviation.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)

258 Gas prices here in Oklahoma lowest in the nation, and continuing to drop.

Guess I'll buy one of those Land Yachts.

And one for the wife.

Posted by: mindful webworker - concisely at February 10, 2016 12:26 AM (wmyHK)

259 As my best and dearest friend in the world, a lady with a truly lovely heart and soul, and a rump and rack to match them, says, "Life is nasty, brutish, and short. Enjoy."
Is she buying a stairway to heaven?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (WOyz5)

260 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 09, 2016 11:56 PM (N/zr9)

I'm not too worried about the gnome hunter thing (actually, I'm sort of grateful since I'd like a chance to get the "classy" guild achievement at some point and *more* class/race combos doesn't help that).

It's going to be a couple of weeks before my B-i-l will have time since we decided to change out the sink as well as the faucet. Until then the faucet is duct taped and leaks when on, but at least there's a plan for fixing it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (GDulk)

261 Someone tell Polli I hope.her sinks fixed, I'm going to bed. Phone internet sucks.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (N/zr9)

262 252 RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (hlMPp)

He does a wonderful job. He puts in a ton of time to find all of the links. 5 days a week. Awesome job yet a lot of it does go by without comment.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (voOPb)

263 I'm just saying he puts way too much effort in a.
ONT. If something catches my eye I'll read it but there is so much
content. Just post an article or pic and be done with it. (And this is
in no way criticizing Maet. Just think there is too much effort in the
ONT.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:23 AM (hlMPp)

Yeah.

Title: Photo of the Day
Photo: Bicycle SeatText: Discuss

Proven template.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (T78UI)

264 259 As my best and dearest friend in the world, a lady with a truly lovely heart and soul, and a rump and rack to match them, says, "Life is nasty, brutish, and short. Enjoy."
Is she buying a stairway to heaven?
Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:27 AM (WOyz5)
***
No, there's no bustle in her hedgerow.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:28 AM (/33sy)

265 255 92 Buzzion

I heard that!



Posted by: speedster1 at February 10, 2016 12:25 AM (vUcdz)
/I]

I was hoping you would.

Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:28 AM (zt+N6)

266 Oh well back to writing about a band named Spastic Colon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:29 AM (QbyMe)

267 Clean up on hash nOZVV

Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:29 AM (zt+N6)

268 Ah, there she is, right when I press post.

Good night everyone

Good night Johnboy

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 10, 2016 12:29 AM (N/zr9)

269 Could be. And I really know very little about the Hagglunds saw them just the other night on Diesel Brothers show. I do like the type of vehicle since I own an Argo 8 wheel for swamping. The Hagglunds do drive all 4 tracks on both sides of the articulation which is kinda cool.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:22 AM (Nkdwp)


Search Youtube for M29 Weasel videos. There are quite a few. Put Arctic cabs on two Weasels, hitch them together, and you would be hard put to distinguish the combo from a BV206. I own a Weasel, so I am partial to them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:30 AM (Z8fuk)

270 @263

Liver
Can of beer

Discuss

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:30 AM (voOPb)

271 She said basic necessities are very hard to get.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2016 11:21 PM (3myMJ)

You know if she's as hot as you imply, if you passed her on to one of us 'rons, like, say, me, she'd want for nothing.

Same for her sister.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:30 AM (3eoPa)

272 MH. Thanks, and I'll likely order those books.

Meanwhile, you should look up Wm. F. Buckley's two books on Trans Atlantic voyages.

I remember one was "Airborne", but can't recall the other at the moment.

I need to get 'em, one of them has the most simple reduction of navigational trig that I've ever seen. I want that formula, and intend to fully internalize doing manual, sextant and chronometer plotting.

GPS is wonderful, but electronics can and do fail.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2016 12:31 AM (McRlu)

273 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 09, 2016 11:53 PM (/33sy)

There used to be (probably still are) absolutely huge grey squirrels on the Penn State campus. Those suckers would stalk and mob anyone they thought had somerhing tasty. Even if you *didn't* have anything, they'd still follow you. It was actually sort of creepy.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2016 12:31 AM (GDulk)

274 Ignore it until the banhammer hits. Please.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:31 AM (WOyz5)

275 I saw Spastic Colon open for Irritabowel at the Mad Frog in Cincinnati.

FYI I play bass 30% of the time.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:32 AM (VdICR)

276 Now we know why Lynch was so FYNQ at interviews. He was filthy stinking rich and didn't need stupid reporters asking stupid questions.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at February 10, 2016 12:32 AM (FtrY1)

277 Hoooooooooooorrrrrrde!


'Sup?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at February 10, 2016 12:32 AM (QwqN0)

278 Former #276 now #274: Thank you.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:32 AM (WOyz5)

279 I'm just saying he puts way too much effort in a.
ONT. If something catches my eye I'll read it but there is so much
content.>>>

Well he does have to drive comments from a limited (and likely more inebriated) contingent of the hoarde till 5ish eastern time in the morning. The more shiny objects tumbled onto the floor the better his odds of success there are.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 12:34 AM (Nkdwp)

280 Unpleasant as we may find the results, pattern recognition is a basic part of human reasoning ability.

And historically speaking, dominant ethnic minorities are well advised not to let their disdain and contempt for the majority show too plainly lest things become ... unpleasant.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 12:34 AM (N+8NE)

281 Slightly OT.

Russia is mobilizing the SW part of their military. Turkey is mobilizing, the Saudis are mobilizing.
Any others?


Not sure I like the 1914 vibe here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:17 AM (u82oZ)

It's not the 1914 vibe that concerns me, it's the location. I've read about this before somewhere.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:35 AM (3eoPa)

282 With 84.7% reporting, Vermin Supreme has nabbed 225 write-in votes in the Dem primary.

That puts him well ahead of Gilmore.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 12:37 AM (gyKtp)

283 TBH3K is working tonight?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:37 AM (hlMPp)

284
So the F-35 losses 17 of 17 engagements against a supposedly inferior plane (which is handicapped for the fight) and the Pentagon is still pushing for it?
Who is getting paid?

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 10, 2016 12:38 AM (KlVdw)

285 274 Jim

Lots of those formulas in Bowditch's American Practical Navigator and in Duttons.

Most of the forms are a PITA, as I'm sure you know. If I was to sail again I would have several calculators and some iPads with the right apps.
And a few paper forms in a well sealed zip-lock bag.

Having digital charts and a display for own ship's position sure would have been swell back in the day.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:38 AM (u82oZ)

286 Lynch has $50 million in the bank, and at a 5% rate of return per year, that comes out to be $2.5 million per year.

That buys a lot of Skittles. Well played, Mr. Lynch.

Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at February 10, 2016 12:39 AM (AqX1p)

287 Who is getting paid?

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 10, 2016 12:38 AM (KlVdw)

10% of the funding finds its way back as campaign contributions.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 10, 2016 12:40 AM (T78UI)

288 Are we getting Instalanched over CAC's Predicto-tron(C)? I can barely reload the page.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:40 AM (WOyz5)

289 @284 who is getting paid?

The wrong people, from top to bottom

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:40 AM (voOPb)

290 Have to drive into Mordor tomorrow.

Thankfully I searched my car for my winter hat...

Oh, an AR in the trunk. That would have been a couple yeas of fun.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:41 AM (hlMPp)

291 Re: F-35. Time to bring the F-22 production lines back onto line.

Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at February 10, 2016 12:41 AM (AqX1p)

292 Trump wins with 35% but the GOPe got 38% if you add up Kasich, Jeb, Rubio.

Actually the GOPe more like 73% but I don't want to start any trouble.

Posted by: CozMark at February 10, 2016 12:41 AM (CbGSW)

293 Back to normal but it's too late for me now. 'night.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:41 AM (WOyz5)

294 We got us some sleepy little hamsters right now.

GIDDYUP, LITTLE DOGGIES!!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 12:42 AM (on01m)

295 >>Actually the GOPe more like 73% but I don't want to start any trouble.
------
1) NH is not a conservative state
2) At this point what difference does it make?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:43 AM (voOPb)

296 Meanwhile, you should look up Wm. F. Buckley's two books on Trans Atlantic voyages.
-------------

Possibly 'Atlantic High', the other one? I have a signed copy. :-)

About electronics. I visited, on the bridge, with the Captain of a Norwegian liner. I was surprised to see there a large case containing signal flags. I asked him if there was anyone on board who could use them. He assured me that their Signal Officer was adept.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:43 AM (RrDm2)

297 There used to be (probably still are) absolutely huge grey squirrels on the Penn State campus. Those suckers would stalk and mob anyone they thought had somerhing tasty. Even if you *didn't* have anything, they'd still follow you. It was actually sort of creepy.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette


You a Nitwit Lion, 'Ette?

In my day the on campus squirrels were more friendly eat out of your hand than creepy stalkery.

But gah! Squirrels have situational awareness. We thought it would be fun to go out in the woods with a shotgun and murder some squirrels to serve at a fraternity dinner. The things that would eat out of your hand at one place would become invisible ten miles away.

We only killt one that day.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (QwqN0)

298 Road!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (voOPb)

299 281 Blano

The Saudi report trouble me the most. You would think they would finish the job in Yemen first.

Moving off to Syria with Yemen still hopping seems a tad ... short-sighted.

One thing for sure, we do not have accurate reports from the region showing up, even in the usually well-informed sites.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (u82oZ)

300 Well, dang!

Last night I used the end of the bottle and today I forgot to go to the alcoholic beverage emporium.

In the back of the fridge, I found two bottles.

Illusive Traveler Grapefruit Shandy, apparently a beer. I have no idea where this came from; possibly something my daughter left us.

Also a Woodchuck Granny Smith hard cider. No idea how long that's been hanging around.

I could almost drink the cider, but I think I'll just pass tonight. Bubbles at bedtime make my stummy fussy.

Futz.

Posted by: mindful webworker - will drink tomorrow at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (wmyHK)

301 Are we getting Instalanched over CAC's Predicto-tron(C)? I can barely reload the page.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 12:40 AM (WOyz5)

Having the same problem.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (3eoPa)

302 TR

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:46 AM (RrDm2)

303 How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb?
None. The keyboard player does it with his left hand.

I wish they'd do more of that and stay out of my low register.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 10, 2016 12:46 AM (3myMJ)

304 Off to sleep it off.

The country and the world may descend into chaos, and the Berning times might be ahead....

But I've got my angel, I've got my sweet little 'nieces,' and I've got a place to hide from them all.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:47 AM (/33sy)

305 The Saudi report trouble me the most. You would think they would finish the job in Yemen first.

Moving off to Syria with Yemen still hopping seems a tad ... short-sighted.

One thing for sure, we do not have accurate reports from the region showing up, even in the usually well-informed sites.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (u82oZ)

From what little I've read, things have gone kinda poorly for them in Yemen. I fail to comprehend why they'd wanna send six figures up against Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and yes, Russia.

Somebody has a major beatdown coming soon. My money is on Turkey.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:47 AM (3eoPa)

306 301
Are we getting Instalanched over CAC's Predicto-tron(C)? I can barely reload the page.

------
I posted upthread that CAC had tweeted out that they had over four million hits. Their site might be laboring. Almost like a DNS.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (9iR5/)

307 But I've got my angel, I've got my sweet little 'nieces,' and I've got a place to hide from them all.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:47 AM (/33sy)

I don't care if you were homeless for a while, I'm jealous as hell of you. : )

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (3eoPa)

308 297 Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion

There used to be a thing on Eastern campuses - squirrel fishing. You put out the bait on a hook using a fishing rod, and the longest hang-time of the squirrel won.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (u82oZ)

309 237 Are people really complaining about Ted Nugent pointing out socialist Jews on the very night a socialist Jew won the NH primary?
Posted by: Achilles at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (MiGRM)


1. Most of the people here are smart enough to think and complain about multiple things at the same time.

2. If it's really about socialism, why involve the Jew?

It's like the old Jewish joke: There's been a bank robbery in a small Russian town and the police inspector comes to investigate. After a while he tells his men to round up all known local criminals, Jews, and accordion players. Confused one man finally asks another, "Why the accordion players?" "Why the Jews?" asks the other man.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (pAlYe)

310 307 But I've got my angel, I've got my sweet little 'nieces,' and I've got a place to hide from them all.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:47 AM (/33sy)

I don't care if you were homeless for a while, I'm jealous as hell of you. : )
Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (3eoPa)
***
Don't be.... go and find your own.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:49 AM (/33sy)

311 Looks like Cruz is holding on the third place and according to the pundits, third is the new first, so Cruz wins!

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 12:50 AM (9iR5/)

312 305 Blano

I heard that too. More indiscriminate firepower is the answer. Maybe their bomb supply is getting low.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:50 AM (u82oZ)

313 I was clicking through the channels when I caught the start of Charlie Rose's NH panel of "experts". Joe Klein was in a splenetic rage. His ANGER at the Neanderthals that voted for Trump was amusing. Words like "tribal" and "low information voters" spewed from his quivering lips. Damn, it was fun to see that old fart spin like a top.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 12:50 AM (JBggj)

314 265 Buzzion

Posted by: speedster1 at February 10, 2016 12:51 AM (vUcdz)

315 NaCly Dog....

Yep, gotta have Bowditch on board for any serious blue water. If you find Buckley's trig reduction though, it'll astonish you. Jaw dropping, OMG why didn't *I* think about that, kind of clarity.

And for the 'lubber, there are some great Android / iPad apps which actually do the star finding and sextant work.

I'll start with that, and work on my sextant skills till I'm matching stats with the electronic tablet. Or, till I'm within 1/4 mile of it's plot solution.

One thing I insist upon, is gen-ewe-wine paper charts for the approaches and harbor channels.

GPS is great for what it is, but it sucks at laying it all out in a big picture the way a chart does.

Charts let you strategize. GPS let's you define tactics. Plus, the charts have lots of details and info in the legends, utterly lacking on the GPS screens.

Love GPS for open water crossing, and bad weather, low vis navigation. But, I always want to take that GPS "fix", transpose it to a real chart, and have a much more solid feel for where I am, and what lies ahead.

Hopefully, by voyage's end on a crewed crossing, everyone on board will have mastered celestial nav. Take a skill home that you didn't have when starting out, right?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


P.S. Mike Hammer. I can manage a ships galley when underway, too. Nobody will starve on my watch.

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2016 12:51 AM (McRlu)

316 #300: Illusive Traveler is pretty good. The best grapefruit beer, IMO, is Shiner Ruby Redbird, but Illusive Traveler is good.

As for the Woodchuck... I'm not generally a big fan of ciders. They're mostly just fizzy sugar water with a bit of alcohol. But I do like Woodchuck Hopsation; it's a cider that's made IPA-style with a ton of hops, and it comes closest out of the ciders I've tried to tasting like a fresh, crisp apple.

Another thing you might consider trying if you like apples but not ciders is Sprecher Apple Pie. It's a malt beverage with apple and cinnamon flavors and, yeah, it pretty much tastes like an apple pie.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 10, 2016 12:52 AM (0OG8D)

317 Joe Klein was in a splenetic rage. His ANGER at the Neanderthals that voted for Trump was amusing. Words like "tribal" and "low information voters" spewed from his quivering lips. Damn, it was fun to see that old fart spin like a top.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 12:50 AM (JBggj)


Very quiet here on the part of the TDS sufferers. If Amish Dude were a lesbian, I'd expect to find him floating face-down in Ricki Lake.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:52 AM (Z8fuk)

318 He assured me that their Signal Officer was adept.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:43 AM (RrDm2)

On the ferry ride north, my son and I toured the bridge. The Captain showed us the WWII surplus compass that is bolted between the windscreens (or whatever they call the forward windows) on every AK State Ferry. Apparently a lot of stuff got reuse on a lot of seagoing vessels of one type or another, and a lot of it is still in use.

He said that he loves the GPS guidance, but they still drive the boat, and in close quarters (which is what an AK ferry spends most of it time in) the compass is still used extensively.

The more things change....

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 10, 2016 12:53 AM (+YMhA)

319 Excellent ONT. Thanks, Maet.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 10, 2016 12:53 AM (3dOE/)

320 MH, and MH. Let me pour y'all a drink . It's my 60th tonight and this half gallon of highland swill isn't going to drink itself.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 12:53 AM (on01m)

321 Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (QwqN0)

John was getting his master's and then all-but-dissertation in transportation planning. I have to admit to hating Happy Valley. Hadn't realized I was solar-powered until we got there and there *was* no sun most of the time, and the political tensions between all the different taxing (and spending) authorities was stressful since I hate conflict and it was everywhere.

I could actually have used the squirrels at the statehouse in Harrisberg in my example. They are what I think of when people talk about the Weeping Angles.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2016 12:54 AM (GDulk)

322 Don't be.... go and find your own.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 10, 2016 12:49 AM (/33sy)

I apparently don't know how, don't know why, or how to fix it. That won't be changing anytime soon it looks like.

On that note I gotta hit the hay, silly me signed up for a 7AM oil change.

'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:55 AM (3eoPa)

323 315 Jim Yes! Sun lines every day possible. Moon lower limb and more. Sounds fun.

Accurate DR is a skill with a chart. Sure wish I could crew with you, but my wife would most certainly object. And she is not safe in anything smaller than a tramp steamer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:55 AM (u82oZ)

324 MH, and MH. Let me pour y'all a drink . It's my 60th tonight and this half gallon of highland swill isn't going to drink itself.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 12:53 AM (on01m)


Happy Birthday, TR! I raise a glass of rum and coke in your honor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:56 AM (Z8fuk)

325 If nothing else, this primary season has been entertaining. We're going to get to hear about "Kasich-mentum" until reality intervenes in South Carolina and Nevada.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 12:56 AM (Ypc8j)

326 The Spartans were history's original badasses.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 12:57 AM (sl+zA)

327 WTF is going on in Hudson, NH?

25,000 people and zero votes reported as of 1:00am?

Shenanigans!

Posted by: Jason M at February 10, 2016 12:58 AM (4oYqL)

328 Fair winds and following seas all.

Early morning ahead.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:58 AM (u82oZ)

329 With 84.7% reporting, Vermin Supreme has nabbed 225 write-in votes in the Dem primary.

Hey, if the GOPe manages to nominate Rubio or Bush I just might give Vermin Supreme a write-in vote too!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (N+8NE)

330 Happy Birthday, TR! I raise a glass of rum and coke in your honor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------------------------

**clinks glass**


Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (on01m)

331 Mike Hammer. Yep, "High Flight" is the other book.

I need to get and re-read both. PC-37, eh? Solid, blue water boat with a very salty pedigree.

How many souls on board are you figuring for the voyage?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (McRlu)

332 "The Pentagon claims that in simulations, when four F-35s encounter four F-16s, they splash the F-16s before the F-16s see them."

That was the original concept for the F-4 Phantom II. Then it got sent into a real world air conflict with a jumble of rules of engagement, missiles that didn't work as advertised, and a sudden shock of reality. That was why we BUILT the F-15 and -16 to begin with.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (Kucy5)

333 John was getting his master's and then all-but-dissertation in transportation planning. I have to admit to hating Happy Valley.

I can see that. Who you are at a time has a great influence on how you perceive a place.

I was there as an 18-22 year old set free of parental constraints, so for me it was a paradise.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (QwqN0)

334 Happy Birthday, Tobacco Road!

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 12:59 AM (JBggj)

335 MH, and MH. Let me pour y'all a drink . It's my 60th tonight and this half gallon of highland swill isn't going to drink itself.
Posted by: Tobacco Road
---------------

The perfect nightcap. Happy Birthday old man.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:02 AM (n22zQ)

336 To Joe Klein:

In your hot anger, you do not see my cold and calm animosity. We've watched the trainwreck of the past eight years unfold. People with degrees from Yale, Harvard and Columbia exclusively author economic disasters of the highest magnitude.

You don't know us, but I hope you will.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:02 AM (VdICR)

337 305
The Saudi report trouble me the most. You would think they would finish the job in Yemen first.



Moving off to Syria with Yemen still hopping seems a tad ... short-sighted.



One thing for sure, we do not have accurate reports from the region showing up, even in the usually well-informed sites.



Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 10, 2016 12:44 AM (u82oZ)



From what little I've read, things have gone kinda poorly for them
in Yemen. I fail to comprehend why they'd wanna send six figures up
against Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and yes, Russia.



Somebody has a major beatdown coming soon. My money is on Turkey.

Posted by: Blano at February 10, 2016 12:47 AM (3eoPa)



I'm thinking the House of Saud, and likely Turkey as well. The Saudis have long held two cards -- they were the #1 oil producer and backbone of OPEC; and they were great buds with the US which was a huge importer of hydrocarbons. That lead to Saudi-financed madrassas educating future shock-troops for Al-Qaeda while American troops pushed Saddam out of Kuwait (whose ruler is effectively a Saudi cousin).

Well, one thing the America-hating Iranian-sponsored Social-Justice Marxist has been able to do in his two terms is illustrate how little worth there is to being a bud of the US.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 01:03 AM (EzgxV)

338 Happy Birthday, Tobacco Road!


Posted by: mrp
------------
**curtsies** (because OBlamo removed any dignity in a bow)

Thank you.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:04 AM (on01m)

339 Well, one thing the America-hating Iranian-sponsored Social-Justice Marxist has been able to do in his two terms is illustrate how little worth there is to being a bud of the US.
Posted by: cthulhu

This Bud's for you.

Posted by: Peyton Manning at February 10, 2016 01:06 AM (zmW4B)

340 A day (and night) of decision desking that will continue with my Ryan Gosling act for head meatball CAC who is a saint was GLORIOUS and I had a blast talking to NH voters all of whom were cool.

NH getting it's Trump on is music to my ears but why, why oh why, did they pick Kasich as a backup dancer? That I'll never get.

You don't often to get to see a robot implode, Trump doing Trump things, and Hillary Clinton being overwhelmed and devoured FROM THE LEFT all in one night.

Very exciting times. Also don't forget that this country is straight up so totally fucked no matter what happens so try to enjoy the election season.

Goodnight 'rons.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at February 10, 2016 01:06 AM (wh/0F)

341 Joe Klein was in a splenetic rage. His ANGER at the Neanderthals that voted for Trump was amusing. Words like "tribal" and "low information voters" spewed from his quivering lips.

Rule 3 from "SJWs Always Lie" exemplified:

SJWs always project.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:10 AM (N+8NE)

342 I can understand Kasich doing well in NH. He said he was halfway between Hitlery and Sanders. Plus he's spent a crap ton of money there. He won't do well outside of NH where many of the R's are halfway between Hitlery and Sanders.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 01:10 AM (9iR5/)

343 Tobacco Road, I've just poured a double of bourbon to toast your birthday. I'm only two of 'em behind you, here.

Happy Birthday, amigo!

*cheers!*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2016 01:10 AM (McRlu)

344 Oh crap.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:11 AM (N+8NE)

345 NH getting it's Trump on is music to my ears but why, why oh why, did they pick Kasich as a backup dancer? That I'll never get.
>>>

Trump is the FU vote.

Kasich is the FU none of the above vote.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 10, 2016 01:11 AM (Nkdwp)

346 Curses, foiled again!

Posted by: The Barrel at February 10, 2016 01:12 AM (Z8fuk)

347 Kasich is the FU none of the above vote.

Posted by: Willy J.

We expect a strong showing in the SEC primaries.

Posted by: Other at February 10, 2016 01:12 AM (zmW4B)

348 Huh? Wha' happened to my unclosed italic?

Was it ... SATAN???

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:12 AM (N+8NE)

349 Happy Birthday, amigo!



*cheers!*




Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim
--------------------

I thank you for the toast, and well wishes.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:12 AM (on01m)

350 Huh? Wha' happened to my unclosed italic?

Was it ... SATAN???

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:12 AM (N+8NE)


Have you got close tags in your nic, that maybe you forgot about?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 01:14 AM (Z8fuk)

351 To Joe Klein:

In your hot anger, you do not see my cold and calm animosity. We've watched the trainwreck of the past eight years unfold.


Joe would respond that the train wreck was the Republicans stopping all of Obama's initiatives.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 01:15 AM (FkBIv)

352 HA-APPY B'DAY, ALL!

*clink*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:15 AM (N+8NE)

353 Just like gope people shocked by Trump and Cruz votes, I am seeing dems on my tevee in shock and denial that they have encouraged and paved the way for a Sanders/full=on=socialistmomentum. It would be funny if it weren't so damn dangerous.

Anyway, Happy Birthday T.R.!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 01:17 AM (GzDYP)

354 Happy Birthday Everybody!

Posted by: Dr. Nick Riviera at February 10, 2016 01:17 AM (zmW4B)

355 @350 - Strangely enough, no. No I don't. Think maybe I'll change that.

Just isn't the barrel's night, or maybe my guardian angel intervened?

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:18 AM (N+8NE)

356 Happy b'day, TR!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 01:20 AM (EzgxV)

357 ...I am seeing dems on my tevee in shock and denial that they have
encouraged and paved the way for a Sanders/full=on=socialistmomentum. It
would be funny if it weren't so damn dangerous.



Anyway, Happy Birthday T.R.!

Posted by: OldDominionMom
--------------------------------------

And it's some of our own kids, for those of us with twenty somethings, who helped put him there.

Drink! ...and thanks ODM.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:20 AM (on01m)

358 Happy Bday, Tobacco!

Did you get bday sex or bday blowjob?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:20 AM (2x3L+)

359 Kaisch is Democrats crossing over, unwilling to vote for either Hilary or Bernie. I respect them.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2016 01:21 AM (cXiMR)

360 Thanks, cthulhu.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:21 AM (on01m)

361 Don't answer that, TR. I will admit I'm shallow and post hastily

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:22 AM (2x3L+)

362 Happy Bday, Tobacco!



Did you get bday sex or bday blowjob?

Posted by: L, Elle
---------------------------------------
We talked about it last week. That counts as oral sex, right? LOL

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:23 AM (on01m)

363 1. As with many topics discussed on this blog, I am utterly unqualified to even comment that I'm unqualified to comment on military aircraft, but I always enjoy lurking and learning (so little as I can). And usually saddened at the state of our military.

B. Prothonotary Warbler, thanks for the info on the Illusive Traveler, et al. May have it for breakfast.


+. HBD 60 Tobac, you youngster.

•. RWC: Just post an article or pic and be done with it. (And this is in no way criticizing Maet. Just think there is too much effort in the ONT.

I think you may be in the minority, there, RWC, but I have to admit there are some nights I don't read everything in depth. Think of it as a smorgaasbord, you don't have to have one of everything, just sample what you want and go on.

♦. I've lurked all I can and I can't lurkz no more.

Good night, noodniks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - z^z at February 10, 2016 01:24 AM (wmyHK)

364 We talked about it last week. That counts as oral sex, right? LOL
Posted by: Tobacco Road

Are you at that age where oral sex means saying "fuck you" when you pass in the hallway?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 10, 2016 01:24 AM (zmW4B)

365 Joe Kleins splenetic anger at the plebs who don't want to be globalized right out of the nation their ancestors fought and died for warms the cockles of my heart.

Fcuk you, Joe!

TRUMP 2016
BECAUSE FCUK YOU, THAT'S WHY!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 10, 2016 01:25 AM (N+8NE)

366 309
237 Are people really complaining about Ted Nugent pointing out
socialist Jews on the very night a socialist Jew won the NH primary?
Posted by: Achilles at February 10, 2016 12:19 AM (MiGRM)

1. Most of the people here are smart enough to think and complain about multiple things at the same time.

2. If it's really about socialism, why involve the Jew?

It's
like the old Jewish joke: There's been a bank robbery in a small
Russian town and the police inspector comes to investigate. After a
while he tells his men to round up all known local criminals, Jews, and
accordion players. Confused one man finally asks another, "Why the
accordion players?" "Why the Jews?" asks the other man.


Posted by: Maetenloch at February 10, 2016 12:48 AM (pAlYe)


Re: accordions -- the new location of this place [ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ian_e_abbott/10598956315 ] is just a couple of blocks from my house [read caption].

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 01:25 AM (EzgxV)

367 Are you at that age where oral sex means saying "fuck you" when you pass in the hallway?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic
--------------------------------------------

Yes, we are.

But when we DO occasionally have battlefield negotiations, and/or terms of surrender, and sex is finally agreed upon, it is glorious.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:27 AM (on01m)

368 Kind of love Tobacco Road.

Being very formal now.

Happy birthday to you.

Make a wish and blow out all the damn candles so your wish comes true.

No, srsly, Happy Birthday, Tobacco Road.
Happy Birthday.


No

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:28 AM (2x3L+)

369 TR, I will lift a cold frosty adult beverage in your general direction. Salute!

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 01:30 AM (9iR5/)

370 This thread is getting good. I should turn 60 more often.

L, Elle, your words are cryptic. ...or I am schnockered.

Ha!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:33 AM (on01m)

371 Wait that last comment was so effed up by hamsters.

I meant to say:

Happy Birthday to you, Tobacco Road.
Happy Birthday.

* cue up Beatles Birthday song *

Srsly, TR, Happy Birthday.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:33 AM (2x3L+)

372 Thanks Old Blue.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:34 AM (on01m)

373 Well, sack time for me. Did some more framing today, and got my trailer end wall all framed, and the window in place. Now to get horizontal and rest my sore bones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 01:34 AM (Z8fuk)

374 Happy birthday
Happy birthday
People dying
Children crying
Happy birthday
*Sung to Volga Boatman*

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 01:35 AM (9iR5/)

375 I'm so brain-washed (or brain-dead maybe) that everywhere I go in the world, every busy 4-lane street gets called the El Camino in a conversation at one time or another. Seeing that music store picture put me into the way-back machine. Thanks, cthulhu.

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 01:36 AM (gy5kE)

376 'night AOP.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:37 AM (on01m)

377 And it's some of our own kids, for those of us with twenty somethings, who helped put him there.

Drink! ...and thanks ODM.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:20 AM (on01m)

My youngest (1 has probably lost a friend to this greed & envy crap. She has a supportive family so doesn't get it or something. "It's not fair!" Mine says that if you're ready to steal from us...f you.

She got her voter's card yesterday & can't wait to vote against that crap.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 01:37 AM (GzDYP)

378 TR:

http://youtu.be/MjF1bG5LUcs

Happy Birthday.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:38 AM (2x3L+)

379 She got her voter's card yesterday can't wait to vote against that crap.

Posted by: OldDominionMom
--------------------

Good. on. You. For raising one right.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:42 AM (on01m)

380 Hmm. Not computer savvy enough to know what I did to make my #8 turn nto a smiley, but it is cute.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 01:42 AM (GzDYP)

381 Thanks, L, Elle.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:43 AM (on01m)

382 The history of laconic wit missed the famous one from Jerry (the mouse ): Ship sighted, sunk same

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2016 01:44 AM (cXiMR)

383 Hmm. Not computer savvy enough to know what I did to make my #8 turn nto a smiley, but it is cute.
Posted by: OldDominionMom

The 8 and the closed parenthesis.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 10, 2016 01:45 AM (zmW4B)

384 I'm out, y'all. sweet dreams

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:46 AM (on01m)

385 Good. on. You. For raising one right.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 10, 2016 01:42 AM (on01m)

Thanks! We're 2 for 3 with hope yet for the 3rd. This cycle might fix that.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 01:48 AM (GzDYP)

386 The establishment believes they can wrangle or manipulate Trump more than Cruz. Trump is unpredictable, but Cruz is a nightmare to them. I agree with them on this. I prefer Cruz because he's the bigger and more certain wrecking ball.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:50 AM (VdICR)

387 The 8 and the closed parenthesis.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 10, 2016 01:45 AM (zmW4B)

Unclosed?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 01:51 AM (GzDYP)

388 I don't get the joke with the bank and the accordion players.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:53 AM (VdICR)

389 Unclosed?
Posted by: OldDominionMom

The "8" and the ")" next to each other.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 10, 2016 01:53 AM (zmW4B)

390 >> I don't get the joke with the bank and the accordion players.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:53 AM
-----
Me neither. Damn stupid insomnia again.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:55 AM (2x3L+)

391 You know the urban legend where a guy wakes up in a bathtub with his kidney missing? That's the premise for a Jean Claude van Damme movie called Pound of Flesh.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 02:00 AM (VdICR)

392 375
I'm so brain-washed (or brain-dead maybe) that everywhere I go in the
world, every busy 4-lane street gets called the El Camino in a
conversation at one time or another. Seeing that music store picture put
me into the way-back machine. Thanks, cthulhu.

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 01:36 AM (gy5kE)


De nada. I always thought that the original store was much less interesting than the masterpiece of Googie architecture that was a nearby carwash.

Whenever I pry the fiancee away from this cesspit, I will be taking Googie with me to my new home -- and leaving socialism far, far behind. [Defining Googie -- http://www.spaceagecity.com/googie/ ; car wash -- http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/tans-touchless-carwash -santa-clara?select=khYLWlmM8z2ON9cqALAhQA ]. [Shorter info dump -- Googie is the architecture of The Jetsons.]


Bonus factoid -- when asked about how the Matterhorn mountain in Disneyland could be considered a replica when there were so many holes punched through it for the Matterhorn Bobsleds ride and the skyway, Walt Disney famously shrugged and said, "it's a Swiss mountain."

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 02:00 AM (EzgxV)

393 Ace is on Twitter talking smack about Spectre. Of course you know this means crossbows.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 02:02 AM (VdICR)

394 The "8" and the ")" next to each other.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 10, 2016 01:53 AM (zmW4B)

In my graphic arts world 8's and parenthesis are fine with one another. Computers are so rasicts.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2016 02:04 AM (GzDYP)

395 Of all the joke candidates languishing on the Democrats' back bench, Bernie Sanders is the most absurd, the closest any American politician comes to embody the term "evil clown."

And yet Hillary Clinton can't even beat him.

I'm beginning to think that she really and truly is the most hated woman in America, by the Right and the Left.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 02:06 AM (jBuUi)

396 Shorter info dump -- Googie is the architecture of The Jetsons.]

Posted by: cthulhu


I just got back from Palm Springs! Googie central.

Actually, technically, a lot of it is "mid-century modern," and one has to do a bit of searching to find the true googie.

Even so, probably more googie in Palm Springs per square mile than any other major city in the world.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 02:10 AM (jBuUi)

397 I prefer Cruz because he's the bigger and more certain wrecking ball.
Posted by: BourbonChicken


Brilliant idea:

He should start using the Miley Cyrus song "Wrecking Ball" at campaign rallies.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 02:13 AM (jBuUi)

398 390
>> I don't get the joke with the bank and the accordion players.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:53 AM

-----

Me neither. Damn stupid insomnia again.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 01:55 AM (2x3L+)


Another version goes something like: Hitler and Stalin are having a conversation at a cafe. A passerby wanders over to get their autographs. They turn to him and exclaim -- "we propose to murder six million jews, eight million Ukrainians, and a seventy-five year old Swedish grandmother."

"Why a Swedish grandmother?" asks the passerby -- and Hitler and Stalin turn to each other and say, "HAH! I told you nobody gave a shit about the Jews/Ukrainians".

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 02:13 AM (EzgxV)

399 396
Shorter info dump -- Googie is the architecture of The Jetsons.]



Posted by: cthulhu



I just got back from Palm Springs! Googie central.



Actually, technically, a lot of it is "mid-century modern," and one has to do a bit of searching to find the true googie.



Even so, probably more googie in Palm Springs per square mile than any other major city in the world.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 02:10 AM (jBuUi)
396
Shorter info dump -- Googie is the architecture of The Jetsons.]



Posted by: cthulhu



I just got back from Palm Springs! Googie central.



Actually, technically, a lot of it is "mid-century modern," and one has to do a bit of searching to find the true googie.



Even so, probably more googie in Palm Springs per square mile than any other major city in the world.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 02:10 AM (jBuUi)


Disneyland and environs are the heart and soul of Googie. It's where it was born; it's where it flowered; it's where it was exposed to its greatest audience; and it's where they actually got public money to buy into it. It also largely overlaps in geography and time where I grew up.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 02:18 AM (EzgxV)

400 Thanks! Maet.

Posted by: stonecutter at February 10, 2016 02:21 AM (zWwhd)

401 Happy birthday to Tobacco Ro-wo-wo-woad!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at February 10, 2016 02:25 AM (0OG8D)

402

"mid-century modern/" and "googie" really are different styles, as "googie" is usually encountered in commercial locations: restaurants, airports, hotels, etc.

"Atomic Ranch" is a subset of "mid-century modern", and includes all of what is technically thought of as "mid-century modern", and few of the things that aren't (but actually are).

Posted by: Manfred von Brauerei-Mehrwertsteuer, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at February 10, 2016 02:27 AM (FlRtG)

Posted by: Manfred von Brauerei-Mehrwertsteuer, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at February 10, 2016 02:27 AM (FlRtG)

404 "The Pentagon claims that in simulations, when four F-35s encounter four F-16s, they splash the F-16s before the F-16s see them."

That was the original concept for the F-4 Phantom II. Then it got sent into a real world air conflict with a jumble of rules of engagement, missiles that didn't work as advertised, and a sudden shock of reality. That was why we BUILT the F-15 and -16 to begin with.
Posted by: richard mcenroe


F-35 Aardvark II

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2016 02:28 AM (cXiMR)

405 I still believe Graves is guilty and that Sebesta shd not have been disbarred.

When someone is found guilty, you can read the decisions, read the briefs, and sometimes, read the transcripts. In Graves, the DA had an investigation, interviewed wits, reversed and dismissed the case. They did not make public the actual evidence that they based the decision on. I know Sebesta was accused of not revealing that the co defendant said Graves was not with him. However, the co def had said this several times and then said that he was. The defense knew this. The last time the co defendent had said it, Sebesta did not turn over to the defense. But the defense knew of the other times and had the ability to cross examine and argue it to the jury. Previously, the defense had failed in an attempt to get the DA disbarred and simply refiled their complaint. That is wrong, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:28 AM (iQIUe)

406 Now, that murder is seen as an internet game, you have lefty mobs harassing people who are family members of the victim or wits. Seen this in Avery where they attack the family of the victim or the family members of the cops involved. Also seen wits who have a minimal part to play in a case, like in Syed, trashed all over the internet. I have seen the women Rodney Reed has violently raped harassed on line and in real life by lefty mobs.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:33 AM (iQIUe)

407 7 I prefer Cruz because he's the bigger and more certain wrecking ball.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Brilliant idea:

He should start using the Miley Cyrus song "Wrecking Ball" at campaign rallies.
Posted by: zombie at February


Miley lacks balls, every rally should begin and end with some AC/DC

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2016 02:34 AM (cXiMR)

408
I didnt win Mega Millions but no one else did either. Someone won the second prize in Calif which was 2.2 million bucks. Friday's lump sum payout is now 57 mil before taxes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:37 AM (iQIUe)

409 Ah, so nice to see that a correctly thinking corner of the country supported the progressive lion of the Senate. Our neighbors in New Hampshire did the right thing for Bernie Sanders, and it was nice to see that all of Secretary Clinton's problematic corporate connections couldn't steal this one.

Leave it to those meth-cooking trailer park corncob fuckers in Iowa to let Wall Street thuggery steal a precinct or two. We will never have the final victory of the proletariat with that sort of incompetence.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 10, 2016 02:38 AM (PJmyj)

410 I noticed that the DM reported that exit polls showed Trump losing badly. Now, where the fk did they get that from?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:39 AM (iQIUe)

411 408


I didnt win Mega Millions but no one else did either. Someone won
the second prize in Calif which was 2.2 million bucks. Friday's lump
sum payout is now 57 mil before taxes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:37 AM (iQIUe)


Are there really any lottery winners, or are they fictions conjured up by the same government that lies about so many other things?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 10, 2016 02:40 AM (EzgxV)

412 ahhh, hugs Cthulhu.

Thanks for that last comment to me.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 10, 2016 02:45 AM (5Ev1l)

413 Miley Cyrus: Perhaps Trump can enter his next rally swinging from a crane wearing nothing but boots. I would stand next to Joe Klein (surely there's a better mascot for the Washington establishment), look him in the eye, and say "I'm OK with this."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 02:49 AM (VdICR)

414 Bettany Hughes does a very good multi part documentary on the Spartans, Alexanderians, Troy, Minoams, etc, found, of course, on youtube.

Sure glad I didnt live back then.


https://goo.gl/2a6oY6

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:50 AM (iQIUe)

415 391 You know the urban legend where a guy wakes up in a bathtub with his kidney missing? That's the premise for a Jean Claude van Damme movie called Pound of Flesh.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 02:00 AM (VdICR)

==========
It was also the basis for the funniest episode of Justified. Poor Dewey Crowe was tricked into believing that he had both of his kidneys removed.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 02:53 AM (iQIUe)

416 *Sung to Volga Boatman*
Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2016 01:35 AM (9iR5/)


Radiation in the Air,
Population in Dispair
Happy Birthday,
Happy Birthday ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at February 10, 2016 03:03 AM (AoK0a)

417 Read the comments to this. Yes, it's the NY Slimes, but 42 of the 44 comments are brutal to Hillary. They are golden.

http://tinyurl.com/ju8vw8l

Blame Drudge. It's at the top of his page.

Posted by: Commando Jimmy Doolittle at February 10, 2016 03:14 AM (HpwDR)

418 410 I noticed that the DM reported that exit polls showed Trump losing badly. Now, where the fk did they get that from?


What's "the DM"?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 10, 2016 03:14 AM (HMt16)

419 Bruce, prosecutors should have a very high bar for behavior. Not just on death penalty cases. I'd like to see more of this, all the way down to traffic court.

Posted by: Jean at February 10, 2016 03:14 AM (cXiMR)

420 Not getting any sleep
Looks like a few inches of snow out there might as well go see if it needs to be shoveled.
Glad to see Bernie did spank Hildabeast for 20 pts
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:36 AM (HWcaz)

421
@timothypmurphy

Sanders voter from Henniker, NH: "The Bolshevik ancestors sitting on my shoulders are saying finally, one of us!" Identifies as moderate.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 03:47 AM (iQIUe)

422 I take that with a grain of salt in that old Tim may be a disgurntled Hill voter.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 03:48 AM (iQIUe)

423 Good news it didn't lay on paved surface
Bad news is its going to be a long day

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 04:02 AM (HWcaz)

424 Skip at February 10, 2016 04:02 AM (HWcaz)

Be careful ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at February 10, 2016 04:04 AM (AoK0a)

425
Bahraini princess had life-saving surgery in Israel, deputy minister says http://toi.sr/1okNqf9

Hell, eve Abbas family gets treatment in Israeli hospitals.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 04:14 AM (iQIUe)

426 Good Morning everyone.

Did any of the anti-Trumpeteers melt down last night?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 10, 2016 04:44 AM (WVsWD)

427
U.S. Official Says Airstrikes Forced ISIS to Cut Its Fighters' Pay in Half

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.702088

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 04:48 AM (iQIUe)

428
Did any of the anti-Trumpeteers melt down last night?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois
--------------
Nah. We're the sane ones, remember?

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 05:38 AM (OUpHg)

429 426 Good Morning everyone.

Did any of the anti-Trumpeteers melt down last night?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 10, 2016 04:44 AM (WVsWD)


I think that is called "knife twisting", no?

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 05:43 AM (gy5kE)

430 427
U.S. Official Says Airstrikes Forced ISIS to Cut Its Fighters' Pay in Half

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.702088

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 04:48 AM (iQIUe)


It would be more betta', me thinks, if our airstrikes would just cut their fighters in half. I pity the civilians, and hate to hurt any animals, but we need to wage war instead of doing math.

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 05:49 AM (gy5kE)

431 425
Bahraini princess had life-saving surgery in Israel, deputy minister says http://toi.sr/1okNqf9

Hell, eve Abbas family gets treatment in Israeli hospitals.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 04:14 AM (iQIUe)


I guess that Muslim science and medicine died when they decided that if it's in the Quran, we don't need it, and if it's not in the Quran, burn it. Lucky for the Princess there is another opinion afoot.

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 05:53 AM (gy5kE)

432 Good job Bernie! Keep breathing until the witch is indicted, okay? Can't wait to watch you and Joe go toe-to-toe in the cage!

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 05:55 AM (gy5kE)

433 That one that Lycurgus said about a wall of men instead of bricks, boys and girls that one hits home. We are in the time of choices, and it's certainly no fun, but we are the only bricks we've got.

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 06:04 AM (gy5kE)

434 it appears Lycurgus also foretold of Trump to wit:

"A fine head of hair adds beauty to a good face, and terror to an ugly one." -- Lycurgus of Sparta

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at February 10, 2016 06:18 AM (TcePY)

435 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 06:20 AM (ptqRm)

436

NY Daily News getting worse and worse.

Today's front page.

Dawn of the Brain Dead

http://nydn.us/1RoSNWe

now, to grab some coffee and see if Mika is crying, and Joe is bloviating...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:30 AM (qCMvj)

437 Morning Village. New Hampshire is done. Now maybe some more normal people will decide who runs

Posted by: Picric at February 10, 2016 06:31 AM (7DX8I)

438 What's a Moron gotta do to get a content free EMT around here

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at February 10, 2016 06:34 AM (TcePY)

439 Delta IV launching classified NRO payload in a couple minutes:

http://www.ulalaunch.com/webcast.aspx

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2016 06:37 AM (sdi6R)

440 Another light dusting overnight.

So schools are opening two hours late today.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 06:38 AM (ptqRm)

441

Maddow called Trump "hard right."

hehe

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:38 AM (qCMvj)

442 The NRO bird will be able to take the highest resolution dick pics ever...

Posted by: Moron Delux at February 10, 2016 06:39 AM (+zqYj)

443

Trump on phone on msnbc

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:41 AM (qCMvj)

444 I'm impressed National Review Online has it's own satellite.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at February 10, 2016 06:42 AM (22uju)

445

this is scary
creepy scary
par for course with O

You Don't Know What Obama Said at the Mosque

http://bit.ly/1PBBoFa

elections cannot come soon enough

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:43 AM (qCMvj)

446 FL man arrested for throwing alligator through Wendy's drive through window.

http://fxn.ws/23WzSa8

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at February 10, 2016 06:44 AM (TcePY)

447 Webcast concluded after payload fairing jettison. That's standard for NRO launches. Even though the rocket is 40-some miles up and you can't actually see the satellite, they're like, "Sorry, can't show you any more. Neener neener."

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2016 06:47 AM (sdi6R)

448

in the meantime

The IRS gets hacked again. PIN #'s and emails, etc.

And, the Supreme Court cuts the legs out from under O's climate/global initiative junk.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:54 AM (qCMvj)

449

weird new Cruz ad against Trump (if you haven't seen it yet)

Playing Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onUaRyvfv1A

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 06:58 AM (qCMvj)

450 Couple of men in California being sought after it was learned that they had been posing as engineers for years and signing off on the safety of various architectural structures -- homes, shopping malls, etc.

Turns out they had no training or credentials at all; they had just stolen some software from an engineering firm.

Bet you can't guess their names. Actually, since it's California, you probably can: Rodriguez and Gutierrez.

Imagine Mexicans pretending to be something they're not, phonying up documents, and breaking all sorts of laws! Wow, that's never happened before, and especially not in Californa!

I just wonder how many jobs these two frauds were hired for because they were hispanic. In California, it's more important to be PC than to be sane.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 10, 2016 06:58 AM (df5V4)

451 The launch is already up on YouTube. That was a nasty-looking flame going down the side of the vehicle at liftoff. It was probably burning insulation or something, but I was holding my breath for a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9OyeLq5Cc

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2016 07:00 AM (sdi6R)

452 >>>>And, the Supreme Court cuts the legs out from under O's climate/global initiative junk.
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.This is exceptionally good news as it means the entire plan is DOA because obama is gone in 10 months and not even Hillary will push it if she wins.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 10, 2016 07:02 AM (iONHu)

453 >>> not even Hillary will push it if she wins.

Push what?

Posted by: New Hampshire at February 10, 2016 07:04 AM (AfsKp)

454 @450. Well, if Elizabeth Warren can be a Cherokee then these guys can be engineers.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 10, 2016 07:06 AM (I0sxh)

455 Jumping in here without having read the current conversation, so forgive me. I've been heavily in service lately to needful friends and family, and as a result I can't sleep. It's eleventy o'clock here in Pasadena, California.

I posted a quick squib on Facebook this evening lamenting upon how NH gets to choose whom I get to vote for for President. One of my center-left friends commiserated with me.

It was the first time we'd had anything like empathy for each other on something political for, like, ever, and it was a warm feeling.

Yes, wetting the bed brings a warm feeling as well, but I take comfort where I may find it.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at February 10, 2016 07:07 AM (IAe6t)

456 I don't know why I get such a kick out of the Marshawn Lynch story. Maybe because I picture him rolling around in a giant pile of Skittles instead of gold like Scrooge McDuck.

Posted by: no good deed at February 10, 2016 07:08 AM (GgxVX)

457 "I just wonder how many jobs these two frauds were hired for because they were hispanic. In California, it's more important to be PC than to be sane."

With all due respect, this is ridiculous. A Latin surname here is like an Irish one in Boston. The Spanish were here before anyone else, and for longer than we've all been alive a Spanish surname has been unremarkable here.

The surnames of all the people who screwed us on our last contracting job were all safely Scots-Irish.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at February 10, 2016 07:11 AM (IAe6t)

458 For an example of what I was saying in the foregoing, google Eugene W. Biscailuz. He's the sheriff Raymond Chandler was lampooning in "The Long Goodbye."

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at February 10, 2016 07:14 AM (IAe6t)

459 Ah, what a beautiful morning. I can smell the terror in the Democrat camp from here.
Feel the Bern!

Posted by: ALH at February 10, 2016 07:15 AM (Z56vq)

460 >>>>The surnames of all the people who screwed us on our last contracting job were all safely Scots-Irish.

Here now, there will be none of that. Can't going around saying who screwed who......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 10, 2016 07:15 AM (iONHu)

461 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 10, 2016 07:15 AM (Z8DIA)

462 Well, I'm plenty Scots-Irish myself.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at February 10, 2016 07:22 AM (IAe6t)

463 Nugent is correct; Jews who hate Jews, who hate Israel, are bad Jews. Everyone on his list has struggled their entire lives to abrogate my freedoms and destroy Israel. My life, the economy, and our country would be better off if none of them had ever been elected to office.

Posted by: Steve at February 10, 2016 07:38 AM (+jHI5)

464 Steve- You don't put an Israeli flag on the pictures of those you are deriding to show support for Israel.

Uncle Ted may have hastily reposted some Nazi meme without thought or he is a raging anti-Semite.

Either way, it was stepped in and stepped in good.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 10, 2016 08:13 AM (L7nbe)

465 46 Ted Nugent kinda sucks. He's at Alice Cooper level musician.

The only thing good I've heard him do is the Star Spangled Banner that Jimmy Hendrix did better

Posted by: L, Elle

Why do you feel you have to drag Alice into it?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 10, 2016 09:00 AM (kfcYC)

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