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Give 'Em a Few More Days, And Everyone Will "Know" That Rubio Won Iowa


Yes, Rubio's fans, and the permanent GOP establishment (but I repeat myself), are just sort of ignoring the winner, Ted Cruz, and the second place finisher, Trump, and declaring Rubio won.

They'll keep on saying it. They always throw some caveat around Cruz's win, which was apparently tainted by the fact that he worked really hard at it, and out-organized everyone else.

So they just sort of blow that off. Rubio didn't even try, and he got third. Marcomentum!

Meanwhile, this happened during Hillary's speech:




The last report is that the Democratic Party is asking 90 Iowa precincts to "recreate" their polling sites because they were not properly staffed. I don't know what that means, either. I don't know if they mean they want people to come in and re-caucus, or just turn over their records.

But 90 precincts, I guess, could change the vote, which currently stands at Hillary 49.8%, Sanders 49.6%.

She won one delegate by a coin flip.

Zincfinger says she won six delegates by coin-toss:

According to Barone, HRC won 6 delegates by coin-flip, going 6/6 on six separate coin-tosses. A 1/64 probability occurrence. Amazing!

I'm not saying she's cheating but also I'm saying that.

Posted by: Ace at 02:19 AM




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1 Vagina

Posted by: common man at February 02, 2016 02:23 AM (gAgEy)

2 Second

Posted by: common man at February 02, 2016 02:24 AM (gAgEy)

3 Third is the new First!

Posted by: Ma4co Rubio at February 02, 2016 02:24 AM (LbE7d)

4 *hic*

Posted by: Hill the Booze Hound at February 02, 2016 02:24 AM (gAgEy)

5 They'll keep on saying it. They always throw some caveat around Cruz's win, which was apparently tainted by the fact that he worked really hard at it, and out-organized everyone else.

But, but, Ace, *tremored lip* no one likes him in the Senate~

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2016 02:25 AM (wCF3s)

6 Can we just declare that everyone from John Kasich and lower is barred from future debates? No matter how fast they can chop and eat vegetables.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 02, 2016 02:26 AM (2lndx)

7 Bonus overnight content.

Suh-weet.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at February 02, 2016 02:28 AM (SLJ40)

8 Loop, the more the say that, the more I like Cruz.

Posted by: Jean at February 02, 2016 02:28 AM (cXiMR)

9 Well, To Be Fair (tm), our betters could resort to some characterization of Iowa voters that amounts to torching their fucking heads to spite Cruz.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2016 02:28 AM (wCF3s)

10 I wonder if that guy mugging behind Hillary and her snuke knows he's gay yet.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at February 02, 2016 02:30 AM (SLJ40)

11 According to Barone, HRC won 6 delegates by coin-flip, going 6/6 on six separate coin-tosses. A 1/64 probability occurrence. Amazing!

Posted by: zincfinger at February 02, 2016 02:32 AM (nHrKr)

12 It's funny that the day of, a couple polls that have a low sampling and are historically unreliable (hence easy to manipulate) come out showing the Marcomentum.

And then he has a 'good showing' but doesn't quite win it all. If I wanted to engineer some voter tampering, that is how I would do it myself.

OTOH, Iowans are notorious for being fickle last minute voters, so meh.

Posted by: other_joe_mama at February 02, 2016 02:35 AM (845LT)

13 Poor kid. Situated up there directly behind that hot red pant suit, you can only imagine what his mind had to resort to in an effort to erase that image.

Posted by: Swanzinator at February 02, 2016 02:36 AM (928fV)

14 Third is the new first?
That seems like a veiled reference to anal. Third input FTW!

Posted by: wooga at February 02, 2016 02:36 AM (kukfQ)

15 zinc, check the coin

Posted by: Jean at February 02, 2016 02:37 AM (cXiMR)

16 various ppl on the Drudge FB thread have suggested that the missing votes may be found:
in Hillary's car trunk
with Hillary's emails
with Vince Foster
in the Clinton Foundation's cash vault
with the Rose Law firm records
with the FBI records the Clintons took
with Chris Stevens
with Hillary's sense of decency

Posted by: Grad School Fool at February 02, 2016 02:38 AM (A9KzJ)

17 Gee, a few more third place showings like that, and he'll really have something going. Yay for the redefinition of "winner".

Posted by: exanter at February 02, 2016 02:38 AM (jbFgh)

18 *tosses results down memory hole*

Iowa votes for Rubio!

Posted by: Mini-True at February 02, 2016 02:44 AM (vBeA5)

19 Mornin'.

She won one delegate by a coin flip.

Democracy at its finest.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:47 AM (HMt16)

20
They'll be dragging creeks later today looking for that mocking kid's bullet-ridden corpse. No one mocks the Shrillster!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 02:48 AM (BK3ZS)

21 I've been predicting for days that Crumpio would win Iowa -- and I was right!

And he'll then surely defeat Clinders in November.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 02:50 AM (jBuUi)

22 Sticker-face guy looks exactly like Adam from Workaholics. Sure that's not him?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:51 AM (HMt16)

23 A few more flukes like that in the voting records and ol' Ted might accidentally become POTUS.


Might want to alert the media.


Who are all smashed on rye and wondering why their assholes are sore.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2016 02:51 AM (+YMhA)

24 This is the outcome that I and a lot Trump supporters expected with a Cruz win. Cruz can't fight the media like Trump and they allowed him to get ahead just so they could destroy Trump's aura of invincibility. They then destroy or ignore Cruz and win with Rubio.

You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.

Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (CdEiq)

25
She won one delegate by a coin flip.

Well, there are coin flips and then there are coin "flips".

Can we get an "Amirite"?

-- the Arizona Cardinals

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (BK3ZS)

26 You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.
Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (CdEiq)

Did you read that before you posted it? Because I can't even....

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (+YMhA)

27 On a serious note, Fiorina, Santorum, Bush, Kasich, Christie and other bottom-dwelling joke candidates need to drop out ASAP. Their continuing charade as mock contenders has become an utter embarrassment for them.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 02:53 AM (jBuUi)

28 Holy crap. That kid was blasted. He has medals from the Bolivian Armed Forces.

Posted by: Pat Loudoun at February 02, 2016 02:53 AM (Rkn+e)

29 You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.

Posted by: Red

Concern noted.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2016 02:53 AM (wCF3s)

30 Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (CdEiq)

I thought the vote-shaming mailers were going to hurt Cruz more than they apparently did. That pissed me off and I don't even live in Iowa.


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:54 AM (HMt16)

31 Cruz can't fight the media like Trump and they allowed him to get ahead just so they could destroy Trump's aura of invincibility. They then destroy or ignore Cruz and win with Rubio.

You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.
Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (CdEiq)

You do realize that the outcome was the result of *voting* and that the media and GOPe hate Cruz with the fire of a thousand suns, right?

Posted by: chique testing testing at February 02, 2016 02:56 AM (cJDvr)

32 Eggs and bakey at 3 am.

But there is OT to be earned.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:57 AM (HMt16)

33 Ace, pursuant to your thesis, I had the TV on tonight watching "Dr. Blake" (the Australian mystery series on PBS); it ended exactly at 10:00pm, so on a whim I watched to the local news for the first time in months -- KTVU, a Fox-owned station.

They had an analyst who immediately announced that the "big winner" of the night was...Marco Rubio! (They announced this even before giving the results saying that, math-wise, Cruz had won.) The analyst then went on to explain that Rubio "won" because he was the only candidate who performed "better than expectations," and that's all that matters.

In.
The.
Tank.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 02:58 AM (jBuUi)

34 Trump destroyed his aura of invincibility by not being invincible.

Posted by: chique testing testing at February 02, 2016 02:58 AM (cJDvr)

35
This is the outcome that I and a lot Trump supporters expected with a Cruz win.

And yet you did not voice it here that anyone can recall. Your powers of prognostication are... nonexistent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 02:59 AM (BK3ZS)

36 That pissed me off and I don't even live in Iowa.

I think it's a really stupid tactic, but apparently people think it works. I've been on the receiving end of it during other elections.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 02, 2016 02:59 AM (2lndx)

37 "This is the outcome that I and a lot Trump supporters expected with a Cruz win. Cruz can't fight the media like Trump and they allowed him to get ahead just so they could destroy Trump's aura of invincibility. They then destroy or ignore Cruz and win with Rubio.

You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.
Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM"

How on earth do you call the last few weeks of nonstop blows on Cruz, the media letting Cruz get ahead?

The establishment actually started praising Trump!

Meanwhile, Cruz is so damn bad at handling the media that he won the hearts and minds of more voters than ever before in Iowa Caucus history.

Cruz said it in his speech. The media didn't pick the winner.

Also not seeing how supporting Cruz is 'walking right into it'. You make it sound like an impossible to escape conspiracy, so there is no walking into it. Unless you just mean we should all wise up and support Trump, lol. The guy has his ceiling of voters. Rubio doesn't and Cruz also doesn't.

Posted by: Dustin at February 02, 2016 02:59 AM (a7sQX)

38 I'm, still confused about the Dim results. I realize now that the total turnout number is meaningless because they don't use ballots -- they go stand in a corner - wtf. But, HRC, had all the 'super-delegates' sewn up -- does this mean Sanders actually crushed her at the caucuses and her super-delegates evened up to a tie, or are the super-delegates gravy on top?

Posted by: Jean at February 02, 2016 02:59 AM (cXiMR)

39
Dondi esta la puta?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 03:00 AM (BK3ZS)

40 Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 02:58 AM (jBuUi)

Come on now, we can't start giving Cruz credit for anything, can we?

Posted by: chique testing testing at February 02, 2016 03:00 AM (cJDvr)

41 "I thought the vote-shaming mailers were going to hurt Cruz more than they apparently did. That pissed me off and I don't even live in Iowa.


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:54 AM (HMt16)"

Both Cruz and Rubio, the candidates who did that BS, outperformed the polls. Sad.

Posted by: Dustin at February 02, 2016 03:00 AM (a7sQX)

42 You guys walk right into it like rubes you are.

Posted by: Red at February 02, 2016 02:52 AM (CdEiq)
--------
You do realize that the outcome was the result of *voting* and that
the media and GOPe hate Cruz with the fire of a thousand suns, right?
Posted by: chique testing testing at February 02, 2016 02:56 AM
---------

Shhh....
He's on a roll...

Posted by: jow at February 02, 2016 03:01 AM (jNZsP)

43 I thought the vote-shaming mailers were going to hurt Cruz more than they apparently did. That pissed me off and I don't even live in Iowa.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 02:54 AM (HMt16)

I've gotten plenty of mailers like that. It's no big deal.

Posted by: The Mailing Hat at February 02, 2016 03:02 AM (vBeA5)

44 @15, Jean, check all 6 of those coins. Those 6 coin-flips were done in 6 different precincts.

Posted by: zincfinger at February 02, 2016 03:03 AM (nHrKr)

45
Posted by: Jean at February 02, 2016 02:59 AM (cXiMR)

IIRC, the "super" delegates do not get picked for some weeks yet, so I don't think they're in the totals yet.

Debbie Whatshername-Frizzies has but a limited time to "Turn those machines back on!" in order to make this "right". Or else...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 03:04 AM (BK3ZS)

46 In the end, Cruz gets 8 delegates, Trump 6 and Rubio 4.

So much sound and fury signifying not much.

The inordinate amount of attention given to the Iowa caucus is as silly and pointless as Iowa's first-in-the-nation status.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 03:05 AM (HMt16)

47 36 That pissed me off and I don't even live in Iowa.

I think it's a really stupid tactic, but apparently people think it works. I've been on the receiving end of it during other elections.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

I agree, it was Cruz's first big blunder. BUT, Obama pulled the exact same "vote-shaming" tactic in '08, and many credit it with helping him, so the Cruz people just copied the Obama people. Not original, but still dumb.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 03:05 AM (jBuUi)

48 I'm supporting Cruz, but yeah, the mailer shenanigans, that was just sleazy. But that is what politicians do. Which is why I don't get how people can put all their trust in any political figure.

I fully expect more shenanigans from Cruz and most of the other candidates. They are playing for huge stakes. I just hope they try to maintain some self respect in the process.

Posted by: chique testing testing at February 02, 2016 03:06 AM (cJDvr)

49 #43 I've gotten plenty of mailers like that. It's no big deal.

It sure as hell is to me.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 03:06 AM (HMt16)

50
Cruz: As Dirty as Obama

Hey, How About That Dondi Feller!

* eye roll *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 03:08 AM (BK3ZS)

51 I just hope they try to maintain some self respect in the process.

Darn, I guess I'll just put this Heat Wave costume back on the rack.

Posted by: Feel the Bern at February 02, 2016 03:14 AM (2lndx)

52 49 #43 I've gotten plenty of mailers like that. It's no big deal.

It sure as hell is to me.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

I'll let you in on a little secret:

I have never gotten a piece of political mail in my entire life.

Why not?

Because they don't know where I live.

Even as a youngster I was rebellious and anti-authoritarian and paranoid about Big Government and so forth, so I started trying to go "off the grid" and "under the radar" and stay anonymous way back in my teens. The earlier you start, the easier it is.

First and most important step was that I never changed my voter's registration address from the day I turned 18. So if I do get any political junk mail it just goes to the address I lived then -- my childhood home, where my mother still lives.

I moved out a few weeks after my 18th birthday, and gave her instructions (which still obtain) to throw away any mail that comes for me. She follows those instructions, I assume, because she has never forwarded anything to me, or even mentioned it. I certainly never get anything at my actual current address.

You may wonder, then: How do I vote? Simple: I just go to the precinct for my mother's address. In California, they're not allowed to ask for ID, much less proof of address, so I've been voting in the same precinct my whole life, no matter where I actually lived at any particular time.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 03:16 AM (jBuUi)

53 The Cruz win must REALLY be hurting the McCain's, Hatch's, Burr's, McConnell's, et al something fierce.

Loving it.

Posted by: Jr. at February 02, 2016 03:17 AM (rUfyz)

54
The Shrillster has a real "Schwarzenegger going through Martian customs" in Total Recall vibe going in that first picture. When she finally pulls off the fake head, what will be revealed?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 02, 2016 03:19 AM (BK3ZS)

55 Nobody wins any delegates on caucus night. The delegates are chosen in a completely separate process which is designed to let party insiders overrule the popular vote. Kudos to Ron Paul for shedding light on this process by stealing delegates from a number of states, including Iowa, but now that he's gone it's back to business as usual.

If your state has a caucus demand a primary. Cauci are bullshit.

Posted by: schizoid at February 02, 2016 03:23 AM (NNCMt)

56 Dondi esta la puta?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

I si what you did, whore shaming aside.

*finger feather

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2016 03:26 AM (wCF3s)

57 FFS,

#MicrosoftRubioFraud is trending on Twitter...

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at February 02, 2016 03:28 AM (vBeA5)

58 In California, they're not allowed to ask for ID, much less proof of address, so I've been voting in the same precinct my whole life, no matter where I actually lived at any particular time.

The nice thing about voting in California is that if you don't remember your exact name, they'll give you the closest option. And then tell you your address before they ask if that's you.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 02, 2016 03:29 AM (2lndx)

59 "If your state has a caucus demand a primary. Cauci are bullshit."

No, open primaries where your opponents get to choose their preferred contenders are bullshit.

Posted by: navybrat at February 02, 2016 03:35 AM (8QGte)

60 59
"If your state has a caucus demand a primary. Cauci are bullshit."



No, open primaries where your opponents get to choose their preferred contenders are bullshit.

Posted by: navybrat at February 02, 2016 03:35 AM (8QGte)

Did I say open? No, I don't believe I did. Demand a *closed* primary.

Posted by: schizoid at February 02, 2016 03:38 AM (NNCMt)

61 The nice thing about voting in California is that if you don't remember your exact name, they'll give you the closest option. And then tell you your address before they ask if that's you.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

In my longstanding precinct, it's even worse than that:

The old ladies manning the tables actually do this: When you walk up to get your ballot, they rotate the Big Official List Book of names and addresses, push it across the table to you, and say "Point to your name." I of course always point to my own name, but anyone could walk into the room and just point to any unchecked name on the list, and go vote in that person's stead.

I'd be willing to wager that various political vote-fraud specialists round up homeless bums and send 'em around to various precincts like mine after 7pm, knowing that any name unchecked by then will never be checked because the person isn't showing up to vote. Each bum could then point to any random unchecked name, vote for the candidate he was paid to vote for, and no one's the wiser.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 03:42 AM (jBuUi)

62 In unrelated news, an envelope containing six quarters, each with a small caliber bullet hole, was found in Ft. Marcy Park. Investigators are stumped.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 02, 2016 03:44 AM (NeFrd)

63 62 In unrelated news, an envelope containing six quarters, each with a small caliber bullet hole, was found in Ft. Marcy Park. Investigators are stumped.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Oddly, all six quarters had "heads" on both sides.

Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2016 03:47 AM (jBuUi)

64 In unrelated news, an envelope containing six
quarters, each with a small
caliber bullet hole, was found in Ft. Marcy
Park. Investigators are stumped.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 02, 2016 03:44 AM
----------------

Prayers for all of the nickles and dimes of each family. Such a shame.

Posted by: jow at February 02, 2016 03:48 AM (jNZsP)

65 Most states are open primary now, which is one reason why things are so thoroughly bolloxed.

Posted by: navybrat at February 02, 2016 03:49 AM (8QGte)

66 Depression among our currency is an epidemic.

Posted by: jow at February 02, 2016 03:51 AM (jNZsP)

67 65
Most states are open primary now, which is one reason why things are so thoroughly bolloxed.

Posted by: navybrat at February 02, 2016 03:49 AM (8QGte)

I agree but that's a separate issue. A caucus is worse. A caucus with same day registration like Iowa's is the worst of both worlds.

Posted by: schizoid at February 02, 2016 03:57 AM (NNCMt)

68 Open primary plus same day registration.
It is very common these days.
Likewise motor-voter registration.
California issues licenses with the phrase "NOT VERIFIED" in 12 point helvetica, right on them.
Making California the biggest counterfeiter of them all.

Posted by: navybrat at February 02, 2016 03:59 AM (8QGte)

69 California issues licenses with the phrase "NOT VERIFIED" in 12 point helvetica, right on them.



This is why I want Donald Trump to be president. Can you imagine ICE rounding up everyone with a "NOT VERIFIED" license and shipping them back home? Trump has the balls to do it.

Posted by: schizoid at February 02, 2016 04:07 AM (NNCMt)

70
GOOD MORNING HORDE

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2016 04:20 AM (hk3Fb)

71 No matter what happens this election...

After all the teeth gnashing and the tears and the hurt feelings....

One thing remains true:


Barack Obama will no longer be President.

Thank God.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 02, 2016 04:23 AM (8PbKi)

72 Rather bitter for a winner. Many more victory speeches like that and you will be looking a 1964 debacle in the face.

Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at February 02, 2016 04:25 AM (Je4OY)

73 71 NDH

Yes. The one saving grace is in 2017 the worst President ever, pbho, will be gone from the levers of power.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2016 04:31 AM (u82oZ)

74 Night all.

Here is "Ride the Lightning" by Metallica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebInqG1pJI

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 02, 2016 04:34 AM (vBeA5)

75 73 71 NDH

Yes. The one saving grace is in 2017 the worst President ever, pbho, will be gone from the levers of power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2016 04:31 AM (u82oZ)

I'm afraid he will never be gone, Salty. He's going to hang around and fuck everything up for a loooong time. He'going to meddle where he can and the media will call that all will have to be approved by Chocolate Jesus. Does he really seem like a "fade into the sunset" kind of guy to you?

Posted by: Gem at February 02, 2016 04:42 AM (c+gwp)

76 I'm afraid he will never be gone, Salty. He's going to hang around and fuck everything up for a loooong time. He'going to meddle where he can and the media will call that all will have to be approved by Chocolate Jesus. Does he really seem like a "fade into the sunset" kind of guy to you?

****


I said years ago that the U.S. Presidency, considered the most powerful position in the world to most of the world, was only a stepping stone in his eyes.

Keep an eye out for him to show up at the UN.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 02, 2016 04:48 AM (8PbKi)

77 Anyhoo, I'm glad that Cruz won. He seems like a decent, patriotic and very intelligent guy, with a wry sense of humor and some humility. I think he would make good policy decisions with a constitutional basis.

I feel some empathy towards Trump supporters... I liked Trump a lot until he started shitting so hard on Cruz toward the end there . And Trump is handling the second place finish with some class, which is nice.

Posted by: Gem at February 02, 2016 04:55 AM (c+gwp)

78 48: "I'm supporting Cruz, but yeah, the mailer shenanigans, that was just sleazy."

Anyone stupid and gullible enough to read a political mailing is fair game.

Posted by: rokshox at February 02, 2016 05:07 AM (Ap82b)

79 76: "Keep an eye out for him to show up at the UN."

We will see photos of him in a bathhouse first.

Posted by: rokshox at February 02, 2016 05:09 AM (Ap82b)

80 Odds on Michelle divorcing him and running for office herself?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2016 05:13 AM (u82oZ)

81 76 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

pbho may do the lecture circuit, as long as the lecture hall is next to a golf course.

For that matter, he's just golfing as a FU America.

His ego will not put up with him being put down.
And all the stories of his incompetence will come out no matter who the President. There will be an avalanche of stories.

I actually expect him to do a lot more drugs, and go to the Betty Ford Clinic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2016 05:17 AM (u82oZ)

82 There were actually 7 coin tosses; Clinton won 6 and Sanders won 1. Which is less sketchy-looking than if she'd won all of them.

Still a bizarre way of handling things; and if they'd chosen an actually-fair method (giving each a half-delegate), Sanders would've won.

Posted by: snorlax at February 02, 2016 05:21 AM (tG1Lk)

83 Coin toss odds?
"Heads I win, tails you lose."

Posted by: Ned Reid at February 02, 2016 05:45 AM (9nHbF)

84 No surprises at all that Cruz took Iowa. It is a bit alarming that the Paul Ryan bookend is in 3rd place. Electing him would tell the nation that, you know what, everything is just peachy keen.

Posted by: Drider at February 02, 2016 05:47 AM (6Xbsz)

85 Saying Rubio was the "real winner" because his vote tally exceeded expectations is just plain silly.
It's exactly like declaring an NFL team the real winner because they beat the point spread.

Posted by: captain ralls at February 02, 2016 05:55 AM (MBNvp)

86 Unfreakin'believable.

17-20 demographic: 14% Clinton, 84% Sanders
65+ demographic: 70% clinton, 26% Sanders

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/primary-caucus-results/iowa

Hillary Clinton is the Antediluvian candidate.

Posted by: Masih at February 02, 2016 05:55 AM (QW1hJ)

87 Yep, the GOP adjacent media wont let pesky voters and their actual votes get in the way of pushing their prefered candidate to the nomination. Narrative uber alles, facts be damned.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 05:57 AM (CKuOJ)

88 Yabba Dabba Doo!!!1!!1!

Posted by: Marco Rubio R- Bedrock at February 02, 2016 06:03 AM (msVAP)

89 It has only been a few hours sober, and I am already tired of the "Marco Rubio Won Iowa By Coming In Third" line.

You will know them by their fruits, but you will also know them by their enemies.

Ted Cruz has all the right enemies. The MFM just cannot bring themselves to say that he won Iowa.

Well, if the MFM hates Ted Cruz, that is just one more reason to vote him!

Posted by: Haiku Guy at February 02, 2016 06:10 AM (v/oAf)

90
Is it me or has the Conservative Treehouse gone completely off the deep end with Trump fever?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:11 AM (zLP1L)

91 Over 70% Of Republicans Fail To Vote For Cruz In Iowa

Posted by: GnuBreed Headline News at February 02, 2016 06:11 AM (gyKtp)

92

6 heads?

The Scylla Win

The six-headed monstrous sea goddess, who lived deep in a rocky cave, referred to as a plague to mortals.

"Skylla was bloodthirsty and she would have her way..."

"Her voice was likened to the yelping of dogs."

Sounds about right.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:11 AM (qCMvj)

93 Damn I loved he classy speech that Trump gave after the vote count.
How neat was it that Paul Ryan's bookend came in 3rd?

Congrats Ted, you won the one state that you felt you have to pour everything that you had into where as everyone else didn't You took it by 4 points but hey did you really think you we're going to get a mandate of sorts?

In any case it is on to the next state and the next. Ted will be switching spots with Rubio from here on out and the GOPe will be doing their best to put the Ryan clone at the top spot to lose against hillary.
Fun times ahead.

Posted by: Drider at February 02, 2016 06:12 AM (6Xbsz)

94
Big win for Cruz, no doubt. But this is only the beginning. We'll see where Carson's supporters go as well as Luap the Lesser's and all the rest.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:12 AM (zLP1L)

95 93 Posted by: Drider at February 02, 2016 06:12 AM (6Xbsz)

Well, aren't we just a bright little ray of sunshine.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:14 AM (zLP1L)

96 90 >> Is it me or has the Conservative Treehouse gone completely off the deep end with Trump fever?

Months and months ago. Yeah, I went over there this am to see how they took the results.

Their mood was... subdued. The conspiracy theories will come soon.

Posted by: GnuBreed Headline News at February 02, 2016 06:15 AM (gyKtp)

97 Big win for Cruz, no doubt. But this is only the beginning. We'll see where Carson's supporters go as well as Luap the Lesser's and all the rest.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:12 AM (zLP1L)

the propaganda is already spreading that Cruz's team "leaked" that Carson was dropping, so don't waste your vote

they will be angry, and vote against Cruz

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:15 AM (qCMvj)

98 So I see that O'Malley has "Suspended" his campaign.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 02, 2016 06:18 AM (ptqRm)

99 ♳ trouble ahead, trouble behind, justice
department better make up its mind ♳

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 06:20 AM (fbovC)

100 if boobio is destroyed in nh, is that still a win? what a tool that little fucker is. by his reasoning, every guy that finished third in the indy 500 really won. time to rewrite the record books.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 02, 2016 06:20 AM (ucDmr)

101 With a roughly 3 way horse race, the odds of a brokered convention go way up.

It would seem to me that might encourage a few, like Rand and Carson to stay in the race.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 02, 2016 06:26 AM (gyKtp)

102 I look forward to voting against Rubio in the general.

Posted by: Irony at February 02, 2016 06:28 AM (qmMG2)

103
By Fox's reasoning vis a vis Rubio, John Huntsman should be stoked that the tea leaves show him winning a 50 state landslide for his second term.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:28 AM (zLP1L)

104 Meh, it's Groundhog Day. The Iowans saw their shadow, so now we'll get six more weeks of campaigning.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 02, 2016 06:29 AM (xq1UY)

105 if voting really mattered they would not let us unwashed rubes vote. just the way it is. the leviathan hates us. always will.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 02, 2016 06:30 AM (ucDmr)

106 I am troubled by Hillary Clinton's efforts to subvert Bernie Sanders' win last night. The progressive stalwart of the Senate is ill- prepared for internecine warfare against the corporatist shills around Hillary. Her opportunity to do wonderful things for women and marginalized groups is often taken advantage of by her hangers-on that she had taken under her wings.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 02, 2016 06:30 AM (UdYkW)

107 97 the propaganda is already spreading that Cruz's team "leaked" that Carson was dropping, so don't waste your vote

they will be angry, and vote against Cruz
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:15 AM (qCMvj)


Yeah, but is it true? In any case, it will be forgotten and then there will be "a time for choosing."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:30 AM (zLP1L)

108 I hope Cruz will tone it all down now. The growling on radio spots, Illuminati pyramid signs (most people just use hands, not arms over head) the Ernest Angley Schtick. I get it. You REALLY want to win.

Posted by: Baldy at February 02, 2016 06:31 AM (1SCTq)

109 Sorry Ace. I just donated $25 to Rubio. We need the Supreme Court too badly to play games about who is "too establishment". I'll worry about the other stuff later.

Posted by: DuesExMachina at February 02, 2016 06:35 AM (jDcTk)

110 and fuck iowa. it's bullshit they even matter at all in this shit.
Cornhorlio! Everybody hear it may snow in the midwest today? It's winter dumbasses, snow happens. We are all going to starve and or die.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 02, 2016 06:35 AM (ucDmr)

111 Rubio wins by coming in third? That sounds about right for the GOPe. That's basically how we won 2008 and 2012, too, but even more winny.

If all it takes to win is surpassing expectations, we should start looking at that "other" guy. No campaign, no ground game...heck, I don't even know what he looks like, and he still beat Jim Gilmore. He was on BOTH caucus ballots, too, so I guess be has some real crossover appeal.

Posted by: Grimaldi at February 02, 2016 06:36 AM (Ycz0Z)

112 Yeah, but is it true? In any case, it will be forgotten and then there will be "a time for choosing."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:30 AM (zLP1L)

well, it seems so

there is even a tweet by King that went out

Steve King
Carson looks like he is out. Iowans need to know before they vote. Most will go to Cruz, I hope.

he's campaigning with Ted

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:39 AM (qCMvj)

113 On to New Hampshire !
Hillary will feel the Bern,

Posted by: ALH at February 02, 2016 06:40 AM (Z56vq)

114 hmmm,

I don't know enough about what Cruz's team did or didn't do.

I see this comment over at thegatewaypundit re: the story of spreading rumor of Carson stepping out of the race:

This is silly. Major news outlets reported Carson was "taking a break" from campaigning. Who does that the day of the first primary? Supporters relaying a news item is now "dirty"? Carson's camp "clarified" after the news broke he needed fresh clothes, was conceding New Hampshire to focus on SC. My word people use google. And FYI the time stamp of Steve King's tweet was after the news report. Ben Carson should drop, he is done and doing nothing but splitting the vote.

They are going to hit Cruz hard, from all sides. You can count on that. We'll have to dig to find the truth.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:42 AM (qCMvj)

115
What difference, at this point, does it make?!//1/1!?!?!?1!?!?

I've soooooooo got this entire thing....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 02, 2016 06:42 AM (HSmrB)

116 109 Sorry Ace. I just donated $25 to Rubio. We need the Supreme Court too badly to play games about who is "too establishment". I'll worry about the other stuff later.
Posted by: DuesExMachina at February 02, 2016 06:35 AM (jDcTk)


Thankfully, a President Rubio will have such wonderful advisers as Chuck Schumer and Pat Leahy to tell him which judges to nominate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 06:43 AM (zLP1L)

117 Sorry Ace. I just donated $25 to Rubio.

Try not to throw your weight around too much at the Contributors' Dinner.
They'll finally let you in to the country club. But you'll be tending bar.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 02, 2016 06:45 AM (xq1UY)

118

The GOPe will instill FEAR into voters to support Rubio. And some will...

I won't.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:45 AM (qCMvj)

119

Dem Party has informed campaigns that caucus results from 90 precincts are missing... drudge

Heh, I called cheating last night. I stand by my words.

It's Hillary Rodham Scylla for cryin' out loud

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:47 AM (qCMvj)

120 109
Sorry Ace. I just donated $25 to Rubio. We need the Supreme Court too
badly to play games about who is "too establishment". I'll worry about
the other stuff later.

--- Thank you. 'Twill be good to see more justices of my caliber come aboard.


Posted by: John Roberts at February 02, 2016 06:48 AM (3MozY)

121 DuesExMachina

D.E.M.

Nuff said?

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 06:48 AM (Vy81P)

122

Drudge just declared Clinton won with it's little asterisk.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:48 AM (qCMvj)

123 Would a President Rubio reach across the aisle and nominate Barak Obama to the Supreme Court?

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 02, 2016 06:49 AM (sJuKe)

124 That dork-ass kid is hilarious. Too bad he didn't twitch into Hillary's wig.

Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2016 06:49 AM (2UPXV)

125 So Rubio won then?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2016 06:50 AM (iONHu)

126 Marco Rubio Wins Great Pyrrhic Victory! Beats First Place Cruz and second place Trump!

/Commie Core math.

Posted by: RickZ at February 02, 2016 06:51 AM (Ix+HS)

127 why is chelsea there, to taste test apples for the beast?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 02, 2016 06:51 AM (ucDmr)

128 meanwhile in IMPORTANT NEWS!!

Broncos busses hit each other!!

Obviously THAT FIRED UP FOR THE GAME!!

(full disclosure, I'm a fan of the team that won 20 yrs ago.. heh)

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 06:51 AM (Vy81P)

129 Rubio's acceptance speech was amazing. He repeated his entire repertory of hackneyed memorized garbage. I think he did some blow right before coming on stage.

Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2016 06:52 AM (2UPXV)

130 "3 Third is the new First!
Posted by: Ma4co Rubio at February 02, 2016 02:24 AM (LbE7d)"

Very well done.

Posted by: twoslaps at February 02, 2016 06:53 AM (wtVtk)

131 123
Would a President Rubio reach across the aisle and nominate Barak Obama to the Supreme Court?

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 02, 2016 06:49 AM

Too much work and not enough fancy travel. Rubio would go with UN Sec General for Obama.

Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2016 06:54 AM (2UPXV)

132 Yes, Rubio's fans, and the permanent GOP establishment (but I repeat myself), are just sort of ignoring the winner, Ted Cruz, and the second place finisher, Trump, and declaring Rubio won.

They'll keep on saying it. They always throw some caveat around Cruz's win, which was apparently tainted by the fact that he worked really hard at it, and out-organized everyone else.


The big shots in Trump and Cruz' campaigns need to read this, internalize it and act on it. They need to understand that the Permanent Political Class in DC is bound and determined to work in concert with the DNC and MFM (BIRM) to shove the Cuban Combover down the electorate's throat.

And if they do - and if the battered, angry, furious-at-Washington base STILL VOTES FOR RUBIO - then, as Ace pointed out the other day, all this sound and fury is for nothing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 06:54 AM (X6fMO)

133 MPPPP, Cut, Jib, Newsletter!!

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 06:56 AM (Vy81P)

134 What I want to know is where did Hillary's 30 point lead go?
Instead of picking out her crown she has to cheat.
hee hee

Posted by: ALH at February 02, 2016 06:56 AM (Z56vq)

135

breitbart

But now Carson's campaign, in this statement to Breitbart News late on Monday evening, is accusing other GOP candidates of pushing that story to Moody to undermine his chances in the caucuses as they began. Carson finished the caucuses with 9.3 percent of the vote solidly in fourth place.

solid fourth

28
24
23
9 = solid

Time for a reality check, Ben.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 06:57 AM (qCMvj)

136 @135 well, BBcom has been in the Trump tank, so thats interesting, kinda..

I havent looked there since Andrew left us. its not the same.

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 07:01 AM (Vy81P)

137

holy h3ll

Jeb Spends $2,884 Per Iowa Vote


28
24
23
9, Carson
4, Rand
3, Bush < ---- burning money with a blowtorch

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:02 AM (qCMvj)

138 I havent looked there since Andrew left us. its not the same.
Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 07:01 AM (Vy81P)

they do some good reporting
true reporting

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:03 AM (qCMvj)

139

oh, Ann

Tweets:

Ann Coulter
Trump is the leading GOP vote-getter tonight, among natural-born-American candidates.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:04 AM (qCMvj)

140 Rubio, in his 3rd place victory speech, sounded so much like Obama that I had to mute it. I cant believe that we re finally, after 8 years, getting rid of a cultish assclown in the White House, just to replace him with another one.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:05 AM (CKuOJ)

141 I saw somewhere, (WZ? maybe) that Yeb! was spending on Penthouse suites etc, and not on the GOTV etc..

But that was a fleeting link, that I couldnt back up. heh

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 07:05 AM (Vy81P)

142 Democrats are calling for a recount. They must love doing that.

Posted by: ALH at February 02, 2016 07:05 AM (Z56vq)

143 Marco Polo better watch his back.
I hear that NH will be forever known as Yeb!'s Revenge.
(Do NOT drink the water)

Posted by: @votermom at February 02, 2016 07:07 AM (cbfNE)

144 Ann's tweets re: Rubio... hehe


Based upon exit polls, Rubio seems to have gotten the lion's share of the Prevaricating Little Weasel vote.

The only scandal bigger than Hillary's denial of her email scandal is Rubio's denial of his support for amnesty.

Ann Coulter
Fox is slyly denigrating Cruz by ignoring him. IT APPEARS HE'S ABOUT TO WIN. But it's all hands on deck for the sweaty little Mario.

she got that right

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:07 AM (qCMvj)

145 Congratulations to Hillary on her clear mandate in this completely unsuspicious and above-board process.

Posted by: We're For Bernie!!! at February 02, 2016 07:07 AM (oVJmc)

146 Why does sticker-face guy have four stickers? Did he vote four times? Hmm.

Posted by: Fritz at February 02, 2016 07:08 AM (BngQR)

147 Third is the new First!

Posted by: Ma4co Rubio at February 02, 2016 02:24 AM (LbE7d)
______

Third... first... thir...rst. Thirst? Yeah, sounds like Rubio. Rubio won thirst place last night!

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:08 AM (CKuOJ)

148 17-20 demographic: 14% Clinton, 84% Sanders


Did 'Tiger Beat' magazine endorse Bernie Sanders?

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:08 AM (fbovC)

149 A'E, they have some good reporting sure.

But, they have hitched the wagon to Trump/rubio, when Andrew specifically said that Cruz was the future of the party (if it was to stay one)

Posted by: JarvisW at February 02, 2016 07:08 AM (Vy81P)

150 #137, just think how wonderful it would be if Jeb Bush donated his campaign funds to the victims of his awful brother's illegal wars and destructive socioeconomic policies. Instead he subsidizes a collection of political prostitutes who gleefully take his money in a doomed cause.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 02, 2016 07:10 AM (UdYkW)

151 17-20 demographic: 14% Clinton, 84% Sanders


Did 'Tiger Beat' magazine endorse Bernie Sanders?
Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:08 AM (fbovC)

this really is good news

obama got the young vote, and the college vote in particular

hillary won't have near the engagement, especially since obama's America is hurting them more than ever, and he lied to them over and over

no fire left in many of them, I suspect

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:10 AM (qCMvj)

152 140 Rubio, in his 3rd place victory speech, sounded so much like Obama that I had to mute it. I cant believe that we re finally, after 8 years, getting rid of a cultish assclown in the White House, just to replace him with another one.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:05 AM (CKuOJ)


Cultish assclown? Check out Conservative Treehouse. But I'm stupid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 07:11 AM (zLP1L)

153 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 02, 2016 07:10 AM (UdYkW)

morning Mary

I hope you got some sleep.

I did.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:12 AM (qCMvj)

154 Three guys get 25% of the vote each. Trump's bet on Huckabee and Santorum didn't pan out. He should have kissed Carson. The second merical-in-america, the first being a weak ethanol supporter winning Iowa, was a New York values guy coming in second in Iowa. Jeb going after Rubio turned out to be a tell. Point when GOPe smoked filled room dumped Jeb and whet Rubio.

Posted by: scorecard at February 02, 2016 07:12 AM (HSAmh)

155 such bs

https://twitter.com/PredictWise/status/694365668221816834

the push is in

PredictWise @PredictWise

...charts a little slow to update: Rubio 55%, Trump 30%, Cruz 7%, Bush 5%. All benefit to Rubio.

h/t hotair link

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:15 AM (qCMvj)

156 As I said in the last thread, which is apropos here:

Before the caucuses: If Cruz comes in second, he may as well withdraw from the race.

After the caucuses: Rubio wins with the third most votes!

Posted by: Boone at February 02, 2016 07:15 AM (bLfK+)

157 Oppo research on lowly voters.

Nope, wouldn't put it past Hills! and her campaign.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 02, 2016 07:16 AM (3MVBm)

158 Mary C sounding like DPRK Tweets

Posted by: Tmitsss at February 02, 2016 07:17 AM (Pa9vP)

159 Fox is slyly denigrating Cruz by ignoring him.

They're totes conservative.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:17 AM (oVJmc)

160 >>> Did 'Tiger Beat' magazine endorse Bernie Sanders?

Waldorf / Statler 2016!

Posted by: fluffy at February 02, 2016 07:18 AM (AfsKp)

161

The New Yorker does a "humorous" hit piece on Fiorina.

sick

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:18 AM (qCMvj)

162 So the old crony Stalinista barely beat the senile old Trotskyist. Can't wait for the internecine bloodshed between the two factions to play out. Maybe somebody will send them some guillotines to play with.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at February 02, 2016 07:19 AM (1BQGO)

163 I'm looking on the bright side this morning. The Dem finish is perfect, as far as I'm concerned. The old harridan wins by a hair and is rightly suspected of cheating. I hope the Bernie fans are all butt hurt and angry. Isn't it something - leftists will actually be concerned with Democrat voter fraud tricks for a change? Heh.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 02, 2016 07:19 AM (P8951)

164 ...a collection of political prostitutes who gleefully take money coerced from US citizens ...

Jeb keeps his money. It's the collective money that he pays the prostitutes with. But it's Ok. He has good hair, dresses well, and has a good speaking voice. If he had better speech writers and less of a tin ear he would be in first place.

Posted by: scorecard at February 02, 2016 07:19 AM (HSAmh)

165 >>>>Jeb keeps his money. It's the collective money that he pays the
prostitutes with. But it's Ok. He has good hair, dresses well, and has a
good speaking voice. If he had better speech writers and less of a tin
ear he would be in first place.
.
.
.
.He would need a different last name also.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2016 07:21 AM (iONHu)

166 I don't see all the braying Trump cult out this morning.

Hopefully, this is "the end of the beginning," as Churchill said. Spare us Dr. Screwloose is all I ask. I don't want Hillary to get 375 EVs

Posted by: mnw (fair and ballast) at February 02, 2016 07:22 AM (NiHAc)

167 How will Pending Indictment cheat to get her over the line and how will Aging Venezuela respond?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2016 07:22 AM (w4NZ8)

168

freebeacon.com

Values Voters Deliver Iowa for Ted Cruz

How? I think the key number in the entrance poll was the one showing that Iowa Republicans overwhelmingly believe Cruz shares their values. Trump bombed in that category. When Cruz attacked Trump for identifying with "New York values," the Acela corridor media (including yours truly) jumped on him. But the attack seems to have worked in Iowa. It may work elsewhere, too.

Cruz's victory demonstrates the importance of organization. His Iowa campaign was methodical, diligent, persistent. We've been hearing about Cruz's turnout operation and technological apparatus for months, and the hype proved true. For an opponent of the philosophy of Saul Alinsky, Cruz is an excellent community organizer. Is his campaign as strong elsewhere? We'll see.

Cruz's victory also shows the durability of the traditional Republican coalition. Iowa tends to go for the most socially conservative candidate, and this year was no exception. Most impressively, Cruz won while opposing ethanol subsidies and facing criticism from Iowa's governor and Washington lobbyists. What David Brooks calls the "counter-counter-establishment" beat its pagan chest on Monday in a victory chant. Members of the conservative movement have got to be smiling at that.

I need breakfast..

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:22 AM (qCMvj)

169 159 Fox is slyly denigrating Cruz by ignoring him.

They're totes conservative.
______________________

Fox wants amnesty, and knows it's more likely to get it with Rubio than with Cruz.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 02, 2016 07:23 AM (a31sM)

170  Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT


Better stock up on your favorite deodorant and toilet paper.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:23 AM (fbovC)

171 And good morning horde

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 02, 2016 07:24 AM (3MVBm)

172 Cultish assclown? Check out Conservative Treehouse. But I'm stupid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 07:11 AM (zLP1L)
_____

Huh? What? Who said you are stupid?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:27 AM (CKuOJ)

173

hehe, gotta love the freebeacon humor

EXCLUSIVE: White House Preps for Iowa Caucus Results

http://freebeacon.com/blog/joe-biden-2016/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:28 AM (qCMvj)

174 Rubio just spent your $25 on wax for his drug boat.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:28 AM (oVJmc)

175 Breaking news from Punxsutawney, PA - Phil did not see his shadow, so an early spring ! Yay !

G'mornin, Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 02, 2016 07:30 AM (Z8DIA)

176 How the Dems do it...

Bernie and Shrillary end up in a virtual tie. Give Shrillary the win by virtue of 5 of 6 coin flips. 22 delegates to 21.

Then throw in the super-delegates. Shrillary gets 7 of the 8. Now leads 29 to 22.

Equality. It's for the little people.

Posted by: Golfman at February 02, 2016 07:31 AM (oxcYa)

177
I don't see all the braying Trump cult out this morning.


Let's see what happens in NH before you start dancing on Teh Donald's grave.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 07:33 AM (X6fMO)

178 Hillary Clinton finally left the bathroom, stood at the podium and said she 'was relieved'.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:34 AM (fbovC)

179 It was the super-delegates that bailed on Hillary in 2008.

Like I say. They love Bill. They hate Hillary.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 02, 2016 07:35 AM (1ijHg)

180 177
I don't see all the braying Trump cult out this morning.


Let's see what happens in NH before you start dancing on Teh Donald's grave.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 07:33 AM (X6fMO)


Go to Conservative Treehouse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 07:35 AM (zLP1L)

181 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 02, 2016 07:36 AM (ZQfW9)

182 179 It was the super-delegates that bailed on Hillary in 2008.

Like I say. They love Bill. They hate Hillary.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 02, 2016 07:35 AM (1ijHg)


The bloom is off his rose too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 07:37 AM (zLP1L)

183 Ted Cruz got almost as many votes as Romney and Santorum put together in 2012; not bad for "Satan."

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 07:37 AM (O7MnT)

184 I don't see all the braying Trump cult out this morning.


Let's see what happens in NH before you start dancing on Teh Donald's grave.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 07:33 AM (X6fMO)

I'm not ruling anyone out.

This was one state.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:37 AM (qCMvj)

185 Morning?

Happy for Cruz! And yes, friend texted that Rubio was 'within so many points' of trump as a big accomplishment. I was like, but Cruz still won? Yes.

That Hillary sanders thing is really really close. Huh.

Posted by: Lea at February 02, 2016 07:38 AM (vmMMi)

186 Sure hope Uncle Ted drops the Elmer Gantry act now that Iowa is done. Not a good look on him.

Posted by: dark helmet at February 02, 2016 07:39 AM (1Boes)

187 She won one delegate by a coin flip.

Democracy at its finest.

--

Reminds me of a Mary Tyler Moore episode when Murray said he voted for the moe. As in...eeny, meeny, miney, moe. "I always vote a straight moe ticket."

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2016 07:39 AM (bG6HV)

188 So the first preseason inter-squad scrimmage has been conducted. Yippee. On to the second in NH.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2016 07:39 AM (JO9+V)

189 From the Conservative Treehouse.

>The loons on the far right, who actually believe the larger U.S. electorate will vote for a smarmy preacher who wraps himself in carefully interpreted pages of the constitution and calls upon the body of Christ to rise up within his followers,... Remember, Jim Jones didn't put the syringes in the baby's mouths, their own moms actually did it.

Wow.

Posted by: Golfman at February 02, 2016 07:40 AM (oxcYa)

190 What happened to Begonia? Suicide watch?

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 07:40 AM (O7MnT)

191 According to Barone, HRC won 6 delegates by coin-flip, going 6/6 on six
separate coin-tosses. A 1/64 probability occurrence. Amazing!





Coin tosses. Democracy at its finest

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 02, 2016 07:40 AM (45oDG)

192 Additionally, Marco Rubio has done exceptionally well in the populous areas of Davenport, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City and Des Moines. 


There's your evidence of cross-over voting.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:41 AM (fbovC)

193 The loons on the far right, who actually believe the larger U.S. electorate will vote for a smarmy preacher who wraps himself in carefully interpreted pages of the constitution and calls upon the body of Christ to rise up within his followers,... Remember, Jim Jones didn't put the syringes in the baby's mouths, their own moms actually did it.

Bitter? Party of one? Your table is ready.

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 07:42 AM (O7MnT)

194 Bolsheviks is heads,
Mensheviks is tails....

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:42 AM (oVJmc)

195 Conservative Treehouse should rename to Conspiracy Treehouse; you know, truth in advertising. The place is about as cheerful as a will reading, when every relative learns that the deceased's entire fortune is going to a cat.

And as I guessed in a post above, the conspiracy theories are hot-n-heavy over there. Fire can't melt polls. Fox News. Wall Street. Microsoft vote fraud. And that was in the main post (okay plus in the first 10 comments or so).

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 02, 2016 07:43 AM (gyKtp)

196
Bitter? Party of one? Your table is ready.

If it were Trump, it would be the same stuff, different sites.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:43 AM (oVJmc)

197

*swear word or two*



Vox

The United States is a diverse place. Iowa and New Hampshire are not. http://bit.ly/1NMTRw6

IowaHawk puts them in their place

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:43 AM (qCMvj)

198

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/with_replies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:44 AM (qCMvj)

199 Wow, this is really ugly. What exactly is conservative about that Treehouse?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:44 AM (CKuOJ)

200 Am surprised that Sioux City is allowed to retain its name.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 02, 2016 07:45 AM (JO9+V)

201 Go to Conservative Treehouse. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2016 07:35 AM (zLP1L)No, I'm fine here, J.J. I'm just not particularly in the mood for any "ha, ha, Trump sux!" crap from the usual suspects.I'm happy Cruz won. He or Trump are my guys.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (X6fMO)

202 From the Conservative Treehouse.

>The loons on the far right, who actually believe the larger U.S. electorate will vote for a smarmy preacher who wraps himself in carefully interpreted pages of the constitution and calls upon the body of Christ to rise up within his followers,... Remember, Jim Jones didn't put the syringes in the baby's mouths, their own moms actually did it.

Wow.



Wow is right. If they sre "conservative", Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (jqZ8a)

203 Marvel Level Retcon ACTIVATE!

Posted by: alexthechick - Love and despair bitches at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (IrByp)

204 You can cease the analysis and hand-wringing. Iowa never gets it right, especially on the Rep side.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (jIJmE)

205 140 Rubio, in his 3rd place victory speech, sounded so much like Obama that I had to mute it.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:05 AM (CKuOJ)

I didn't watch the speech, but I said yesterday that Rubio is the Republican Obama. He gets by on looks and speechifying, with absolutely no substance behind it.

Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2016 07:47 AM (sdi6R)

206

a lol, tweet


Matthew Garrahan

An Iowa caucus goer just told an NPR presenter that she was supporting Trump because of the way he rebuilt the World Trade Center.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (qCMvj)

207 is that true? less than 2k showed up for the dems?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (0O7c5)

208 Morning all

And the Blood Letting Begins

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (kzdjp)

209 You can cease the analysis and hand-wringing. Iowa never gets it right, especially on the Rep side.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (jIJmE)

Sí, se puede

Posted by: El Marco Rube-i-o at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (oxcYa)

210 Stay tuned for NYT endorsement of Rubio.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (EZebt)

211 We have the Evil Party facing a massive schism fueled by fraud and incompetence and, instead of enjoying that, we're going to sit here and pee on each other?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (oVJmc)

212 You can cease the analysis and hand-wringing. Iowa never gets it right, especially on the Rep side.


Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2016 07:46 AM (jIJmE)
____

For the last decades, nominees who failed to win the Iowa caucus, usually failed to win the White House.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (CKuOJ)

213 Hoooooooorrrrrrddddddeee!


Good morning all. According to the Decision Desk there have still only been 9,900 votes cast on the Democratic side, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 02, 2016 07:49 AM (1xUj/)

214 211 We have the Evil Party facing a massive schism fueled by fraud and incompetence and, instead of enjoying that, we're going to sit here and pee on each other?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (oVJmc)

I want to see BOTH parties split.

Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2016 07:50 AM (sdi6R)

215 I don't see all the braying Trump cult out this morning.

Unlike the Dondi followers, they recognize a non-first place finish is not a victory.

Posted by: WOPR at February 02, 2016 07:50 AM (LTDSy)

216 If the #1 and #3 finishers in a Democrat presidential primary were Hispanic. All we would be hearing from the media this morning is how 'historic' it was.

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 07:51 AM (O7MnT)

217 Dear MFM,

The Chicken is on Line 1. He says you're almost out of lube.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 02, 2016 07:51 AM (bzd8I)

218 Wtf?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 02, 2016 07:51 AM (rwI+c)

219 We have the Evil Party facing a massive schism fueled by fraud and incompetence and, instead of enjoying that, we're going to sit here and pee on each other?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (oVJmc)

I'm loving it. Things will get messy I predict.

Oh. Did you mean the Dems?

And the EMT seems pretty cordial to me.

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 02, 2016 07:52 AM (oxcYa)

220


ot

Iran Warns US: We Have Even More Embarrassing Footage of Your Captured Sailors

..."We have extracted extensive information from their laptops and cell phones," the state-owned Tasnim news agency quoted him as saying, adding that the material could be made public....

bow to them SCOAMT

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:52 AM (qCMvj)

221

h/t cnsnews.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:53 AM (qCMvj)

222 I didn't watch the speech, but I said yesterday that Rubio is the Republican Obama. He gets by on looks and speechifying, with absolutely no substance behind it.

Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2016 07:47 AM (sdi6R)
________

"For months they told us we had no chance. Because we offered too much optimism in a time of anger, we had no chance."

Tell me that this doesnt read exactly like a 2008 Obama speech. Really makes my skin crawl.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:53 AM (CKuOJ)

223 219
And the EMT seems pretty cordial to me.
Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 02, 2016 07:52 AM (oxcYa)

We just haven't had enough coffee yet.

Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2016 07:53 AM (sdi6R)

224 211 We have the Evil Party facing a massive schism fueled by fraud and incompetence...
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
---------------
Enough about the Republicans, how about those crooked Democrats?

Posted by: Chi at February 02, 2016 07:54 AM (ENe42)

225

In his address in parliament, Fadavi also warned that the IRGC had much more footage of the incident than the material it released earlier -- which showed the sailors kneeling on the deck at gunpoint, later relaxing and eating, and one of them apologizing for unintentionally entering Iranian waters.

Tasnim reported: "If U.S. officials say they are angry with and frustrated by the footage released, they would be 100 times more embarrassed if the IRGC releases other films of the capture, the Iranian commander said."

"Iran does not seek to humiliate any nation, he said, but stressed that if they want to humiliate Iran, the IRGC would publish the footage and make them even more embarrassed and humiliated," the agency added.

bow, O, bow

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:54 AM (qCMvj)

226 211 >> We have the Evil Party facing a massive schism fueled by fraud and
incompetence and, instead of enjoying that, we're going to sit here and
pee on each other?

Trump stomp bad?

Look, I'm a Cruzer, don't I get to gloat just a leetle bit? It may be my only chance.

Posted by: Hulk GnuBreed at February 02, 2016 07:54 AM (gyKtp)

227 Cruz has the dollars and the organization. And now he's shown he can win while running on conservative principles.

I encourage everyone who is reluctant to have hope to get behind Cruz and help him win.

Posted by: Y-not at February 02, 2016 07:55 AM (t5zYU)

228 We have extracted extensive information from their laptops and cell phones," the state-owned Tasnim news agency quoted him as saying, adding that the material could be made public.... 


Oh no, selfies and porn. The American people will be shocked and rise up and embrace Islam.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 07:56 AM (fbovC)

229 If the #1 and #3 finishers in a Democrat presidential primary were Hispanic. All we would be hearing from the media this morning is how 'historic' it was.
Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 07:51 AM (O7MnT)

while very white guy at white vox & co are calling Iowans white...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:56 AM (qCMvj)

230 And the EMT seems pretty cordial to me.
Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 02, 2016 07:52 AM (oxcYa)

We just haven't had enough coffee yet.


See, I read that as "EMP" and thought that if it really loved us it would have taken us out already.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 02, 2016 07:57 AM (1xUj/)

231 Hillary has a coin jist like Harvey Dent before the accident.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 02, 2016 07:57 AM (3MVBm)

232 Iran Warns US: We Have Even More Embarrassing Footage of Your Captured Sailors



..."We have extracted extensive information from their laptops and
cell phones," the state-owned Tasnim news agency quoted him as saying,
adding that the material could be made public....



bow to them SCOAMT

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:52 AM (qCMvj)


Barry's fanny is already in the upright and unlocked position.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 02, 2016 07:58 AM (45oDG)

233
#cointossesmatter....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 02, 2016 07:59 AM (HSmrB)

234 I'MA GONNA WEEN!

Posted by: Hillary's Wario Mustache at February 02, 2016 07:59 AM (dlIzT)

235 >>>For the last decades, nominees who failed to win the Iowa caucus, usually failed to win the White House.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 02, 2016 07:48 AM (CKuOJ)

I think if you get Iowa NH and South Carolina you have an excellent chance at winning...its when support us fractured that you have more problems. So we will see.

Posted by: Lea at February 02, 2016 08:00 AM (vmMMi)

236 I think the reason Trump is going to fade now is that he can't get away with the all-Trump lookatme! Schick going forward.

I think he'll have to answer tough questions about issues now.

He can't get away with just waving his arms & calling people names any more.

Posted by: mnw (fair and ballast) at February 02, 2016 08:00 AM (NiHAc)

237

wsj
Cruz's Win Powered by Evangelicals

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:00 AM (qCMvj)

238 "schtick"

Posted by: mnw (fair and ballast) at February 02, 2016 08:01 AM (NiHAc)

239 i'm all in for cruz... but i couldn't make it through his victory speech last night.....it was too long imho....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:02 AM (0O7c5)

240 >>>Iran does not seek to humiliate any nation, he said, but stressed that if they want to humiliate Iran, the IRGC would publish the footage and make them even more embarrassed and humiliated," the agency added.
bow, O, bow
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 07:54 AM (

Bomb babomb babomb Iran.

Seriously this is a problem.

Posted by: Lea at February 02, 2016 08:02 AM (vmMMi)

241 I ain't no ways tired...but I am a crook.

Posted by: Hillary at February 02, 2016 08:02 AM (22uju)

242 I know, I know, it's all about immigration, but...




TRUMP ON DRUGS
The Donald adopts another dumb Democrat health care position.

http://spectator.org/articles/65340/trump-drugs

did not know

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

243
Because we offered too much optimism in a time of anger, we had no chance."

In the words of the consul Quintus Arrius, "Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength."

If you aren't angry at the devolution of this country in the last eight years, you have no damned business running for president.

Fuck your "optimism." The cocksuckers of the left have betrayed this country, you double-talking, forked-tongue polyglot. What are you going to do about it?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 02, 2016 08:05 AM (X6fMO)

244 Trump started shifting left too early, too. He let the conservative mask drop.

Posted by: mnw (fair and ballast) at February 02, 2016 08:05 AM (NiHAc)

245 i'm not a fan of rubio.....so it may have seemed this way because i don't like him...but his speech was "shrill"....and that was a "victory" speech....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:05 AM (0O7c5)

246 his voice....not the words

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:05 AM (0O7c5)

247 Oh, that Ruby Oh! Look at him smiling in that picture... LOOK at him! He's so happy, it's so precious. Do you want to disappoint that happy, happy boy? Do you??

I have to resist the urge to want to put a sombrero on his head though.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2016 08:06 AM (Dj0WE)

248

way ot

but, can't believe the superbowl is just days away...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:06 AM (qCMvj)

249 Hey a big shout our to Jeb...great showing!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2016 08:06 AM (kzdjp)

250 how many democrats turned out overall?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:07 AM (0O7c5)

251

heh


JD Hicks
@anncoulter You mean ROX ? Rubio News Channel .

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:07 AM (qCMvj)

252 Well, I guess they were serving punch and crack at the Hillary Victory Party last night.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 02, 2016 08:07 AM (ayzCq)

253 way ot

but, can't believe the superbowl is just days away...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:06 AM (qCMvj)

Hey thanks for reminding me...I have to look at my numbers in the BOX for the Super Bowl

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2016 08:07 AM (kzdjp)

254 Yo!

Posted by: Bigby's Coin Flip at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (3ZtZW)

255 Couple of "thoughts."

We have a new technical poli-sci phrase, "Margin of coin-toss."

Letter-writer to WSJ this morning notes that with Venezuela's oil good-goods gone, Castro family would be just about falling right now if not for Obama's hand.

Makes you wonder what effect a Cruz/Rubio ticket would have, in Havana.
Would Granma tell the folks that Cuba has finally conquered the US devil?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (xq1UY)

256 Have any of the repub delegates been committed yet?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (WVsWD)

257 @239
Hugh Hewitt (yeah, I know!) had some great points about Cruz's victory speech. His position was that it was valuable free airtime that is hard for the non-Trumps to come by. And he pointed out that most/many people are channel-surfers, so the length meant they were likely to see at least part of Cruz's speech.

The good news for Rubio is that his third place loss took attention away from his anemic fundraising, high burn rate, and weak cash on hand. (Numbers released late Sunday.) mr Electables campaign sure is a juggernaut!

Posted by: Y-not at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (t5zYU)

258 "Oh, that Ruby Oh! Look at him smiling in that picture... LOOK at him! He's so happy, it's so precious. "



There's a new "most punchable face" in town.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 02, 2016 08:09 AM (ayzCq)

259 So the Treehouse thinks Ace is part of the Cabal? Wow

Posted by: tops at February 02, 2016 08:09 AM (jScJf)

260 I think the reason Trump is going to fade now is that he can't get away with the all-Trump lookatme! Schick going forward.

====

Whatever makes you feel better.

Posted by: Bigby's Coin Flip at February 02, 2016 08:09 AM (3ZtZW)

261 Trump really hurt himself with the Ron Paul-ish birther crap and then doubled-down on stoopid with "the EPA is going to enforce my policy for more government subsidized ethanol".

Watch for that to hurt him in other places. People start to question your convictions when their about to pull that lever.

Surprise! Hag Clinton is not trustworthy, likable, or a person of the people. She's just another Washington hack trying to make people into dupes.

BTW- exit polls state that Iowa strongly prefers a "continuation of Obama's policies". WTF Iowa?


Posted by: Marcus Tq at February 02, 2016 08:09 AM (GGCsk)

262 Have any of the repub delegates been committed yet?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (WVsWD)

Yup, the State Mental Hospitals are full of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2016 08:09 AM (kzdjp)

263 In the words of the consul Quintus Arrius, "Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength."

>>>>

It also keeps me warm.

Posted by: Robert from Red Dawn at February 02, 2016 08:10 AM (JO9+V)

264 You mean my polls AREN'T yuuuge? WTF?

Posted by: mnw (fair and ballast) at February 02, 2016 08:10 AM (NiHAc)

265 After the coin tosses, Hillary elected to receive. All the delegates. What she wants to do here is get more than the other guy so she can get the momentum.

Posted by: John Madden, Chief Campaign Correspondent at February 02, 2016 08:11 AM (r/fFS)

266 Look, I'm a Cruzer, don't I get to gloat just a leetle bit? It may be my only chance.


*fistbump*

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 02, 2016 08:11 AM (rwI+c)

267 Fk Marco Rubio in particular.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 02, 2016 08:11 AM (r9tFS)

268 Iowa makes not an election. Just sayin They voted for Obama twice. Honestly, how bright can these people be?

Posted by: Marcus Tq at February 02, 2016 08:11 AM (GGCsk)

269 Hugh Hewitt (yeah, I know!) had some great points about Cruz's victory speech. His position was that it was valuable free airtime that is hard for the non-Trumps to come by. And he pointed out that most/many people are channel-surfers, so the length meant they were likely to see at least part of Cruz's speech.

Posted by: Y-not at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (t5zYU)

I came around to this reasoning too. (another 'ette pointed this out last night I think).

That is exactly why Fox (Rox) cut him off. He was campaigning hard after the evangelical shout out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (qCMvj)

270 What time is the Circular Firing Squad?


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (ptqRm)

271
The good news for Rubio is that his third place
loss took attention away from his anemic fundraising, high burn rate,
and weak cash on hand. (Numbers released late Sunday.) mr Electables
campaign sure is a juggernaut!

Posted by: Y-not at February 02, 2016 08:08 AM (t5zYU)

anemic until now.....he'll get the establishment cash....who else qualifies? unless they stick with jeb!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (0O7c5)

272 Ok, rephrase the question. Have any of the repub delegates been officially assigned to vote at the convention for any specific candidate.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (WVsWD)

273 NOOD.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (wtvvX)

274 Wait for the media to begin to say how Rubio could be the first hispanic President.

And ignore Cruz.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 02, 2016 08:13 AM (oVJmc)

275 According to Barone, HRC won 6 delegates by coin-flip, going 6/6 on six separate coin-tosses. A 1/64 probability occurrence. Amazing!

Cough, Sith Lord, cough.

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 08:13 AM (O7MnT)

276 unless they stick with jeb!
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 02, 2016 08:12 AM (0O7c5)


With Rubio's rise, Jeb is dead meat, whether he knows it or not.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2016 08:13 AM (kzdjp)

277 Iowa makes not an election. Just sayin They voted for Obama twice. Honestly, how bright can these people be?
Posted by: Marcus Tq at February 02, 2016 08:11 AM (GGCsk)


Ruby Oh! is in roughly the same position as Pon Raul in 2012.


And Cruz is Sanctotum! Know who finished second in '12? Guess!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2016 08:14 AM (Dj0WE)

278 Yeah, you can feel better by tossing rocks at Rubio. But the history of Iowa is those types of last minute surges often product pretty good momentum for the person who eventually becomes the candidate.

Posted by: Marcus Tq at February 02, 2016 08:14 AM (GGCsk)

279

nood, emt, btw

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2016 08:14 AM (qCMvj)

280 I guess Jeb can now go back to picking the lint out of his belly button?

Posted by: Marcus Tq at February 02, 2016 08:15 AM (GGCsk)

281 @243 In the words of the consul Quintus Arrius...

Now you're talking. "In his eagerness to save you, your God has saved the Roman fleet." Written by a Boy General, ambassador to the Ottomans, nephew-in-law of the inventor of the Gatling gun, and, the man who got Billy the Kid. All in one.

We could use a little less "Moby-Dick" and a little more "Ben-Hur."
Asses kicked, names taken, the Great American Novel. Of its century, anyway.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 02, 2016 08:15 AM (xq1UY)

282 So Hillary won

6 out of
6 coin tosses to pick up
6 delegates

Just sayin'

Posted by: V the K at February 02, 2016 08:15 AM (O7MnT)

283 Wait for the media to begin to say how Rubio could be the first hispanic President.

In fairness, both Marcos parents are foreigners so, twice the exoticness.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 02, 2016 08:16 AM (rwI+c)

284 I guess Yeb trying to out-Hispanic, the Hispanics is over.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2016 08:17 AM (GGCsk)

285 Just got up, and expected a morning thread
Found a two a.m. post by Ace instead
So no doubt I'm confused and a little bit slow
I don't get what's up with those twit pictures, though.

I see some kid with something on his face? What?

* going to make coffee and slap myself awake *

Posted by: mindful webworker - what th'?? at February 02, 2016 08:17 AM (Yu4ah)

286 @278
History matters? Ok, I read that the the third place finisher has never been the nominee.

Posted by: Y-not at February 02, 2016 08:18 AM (t5zYU)

287 >>Wait for the media to begin to say how Rubio could be the first hispanic President.<<

Eh, that's OK. I'll be watching all of the new First Ladies press events.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2016 08:18 AM (GGCsk)

288 I'm discounting Rubio's numbers completely. Cities are traditionally democrat strongholds. Seeing how the numbers are so evenly divided between the elderly Hillary and the ancient Sanders, I suspect huge crossover voting in the larger Iowa cities.

Rubio is the divide the GOP, most desirable 0bama clone who Democrats would naturally gravitate to.

Operation Chaos, democrats version.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 08:19 AM (fbovC)

289 Can we pause for a minute and consider that an avowed socialist tied the Democratic Party favorite in an exercise where votes were cast (in the United States of America)? Said favorite having her own set of catastrophic issues.

And yet, Ted Cruz is "extreme."

The country has crossed from unserious to clinically insane.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 02, 2016 08:19 AM (659DL)

290 I'm going to take one day, just one day, to enjoy the Cruz win without worrying about how the Stupid Party will manage to screw things up, or how no matter what, the end game is that Hillary! skates and is the next POTUS.

Posted by: RM at February 02, 2016 08:20 AM (U3LtS)

291 Is this the morning open thread?

Ace is really messing with my circadian rhythm.

Posted by: joe at February 02, 2016 08:20 AM (KUaJL)

292 Trump had issues with his GOTV. Where Cruz had his people actively calling supporters with caucus information, Trump was advertising a number for his supporters to call for caucus information.

I'm happy Cruz won. This was probably the best outcome of the primary.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 02, 2016 08:20 AM (eytER)

293 >>286
@278

History matters? Ok, I read that the the third place finisher has never been the nominee. <<

George Bush did it.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2016 08:21 AM (GGCsk)

294 Bernie Sanders 2016!

Tastes Great, Less Felon!

Posted by: ugg boots at February 02, 2016 08:22 AM (fbovC)

295 Nood OT

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 02, 2016 08:22 AM (fWAjv)

296 Hillary is a coin slot.

Posted by: Gonna need a bigger coin at February 02, 2016 08:26 AM (qNcVh)

297 The more I learn about the Iowa Cacus, the more I wonder why they have a say in who I get to vote for.

Posted by: Picric at February 02, 2016 08:32 AM (QnQ+g)

298 New thread is up

Posted by: Picric at February 02, 2016 08:34 AM (QnQ+g)

299 124 That dork-ass kid is hilarious.

For a minute, I thought you were talking about Rubio.

Posted by: Abby Normal at February 02, 2016 08:40 AM (jzFjy)

300 If you vetted Cruz with the same attention to detail that you have Rubio and Trump, it wouldn't be so creepy cultist Jim Jones campy.

It's too much like the Hillery cult.

Posted by: The Hot Gates at February 02, 2016 08:51 AM (KJZeR)

301 >>>17-20 demographic: 14% Clinton, 84% Sanders
>>>65+ demographic: 70% clinton, 26% Sanders

So, the clueless went for Sanders. The takers went for Clinton.

Posted by: An Poc Ar Buile at February 02, 2016 09:05 AM (bpn7O)

302 You're right again, Ace.

Breitbart headline "3 Reasons Why Marco Rubio Is Iowa's Big Winner"

#3 is the key to the whole thing for Marco Rubio...
http://trib.al/s1pPkNu

Posted by: Dennis at February 02, 2016 10:56 AM (f4toV)

303 Some of you people are really delusional when it comes to Rubio. He is conservative On like 95% of the issues. Anyone who said they Listen to him and say he sounds just like Obama obviously doesn't really listen to him. He spent his whole speech attacking Democrats and calling Hillary a liar and a criminal. Tell me how that is just like Obama?

Posted by: rexbatt at February 02, 2016 12:38 PM (woA40)

304 I'm guessing that each precinct that had to do the coin flip had some Hillary people on hand, who thought that theirs was the only coin flip, and that a little nudge in the right direction would be noticed by no one. It's when we had a 6 of 6 = 1/72 outcome that people realized they were being had. Bernie did not win outside the margin of cheating.

So this means that, right off the bat, Hillary Clinton is already cheating. In her very first election activity for president of the United States, she's already got her finger on the scale. And apparently, the Democrats are satisfied with this.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at February 02, 2016 12:40 PM (YPgXi)

305 It's too much like the Hillery cult.

You're full of shit, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 02, 2016 12:58 PM (rwI+c)

306 Who are the uninformed people voting for Rubio? These people need to get in the game.

Posted by: Thumper Doofy at February 02, 2016 01:13 PM (SJi0a)

307 http://i.___ur.com/noSIjDz.jpg

Posted by: salfter at February 02, 2016 04:52 PM (kmvkg)

308 ...and since that last one got mangled:

http://goo.gl/lpdHCy

Posted by: salfter at February 02, 2016 04:52 PM (kmvkg)

309 I am a Rubio fan and not part of the GOPe. I actually ran for office (and lost) against a GOPe candidate.

Posted by: Hatchet at February 02, 2016 08:29 PM (/Mhs7)

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