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Here's a recipe from a Moronette whose name will remain in the mists of internet anonymity, and because I deleted the e-mail with her nic in it. She swears by the recipe. I have to admit that I was taken aback by the can of mushroom soup, but really, it's the same mushrooms I would be buying and cleaning and chopping and cooking and..... Yeah....use the damned can. • 1 ½ teaspoons House Seasoning* • ½ teaspoon salt • ½ teaspoon black pepper • 2 tablespoons vegetable oil • ½ small onion, wedged • 3 cloves garlic, crushed • 2 bay leaves • 1 (10 ¾ ounce) can cream of mushroom soup • 2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce • 1 can beef broth • 5 potatoes, peeled & quartered • 4 carrots, peeled & cut into 2” lengths • 2 onions, wedged • 2 tablespoons corn starch • ¼ cup water Preheat oven to 350ºF. Add the House Seasoning, salt and pepper to a small bowl. Rub seasoning into the roast on all sides. Heat oil in a Dutch oven and brown the roast, searing it on all sides. Remove meat, and add onion and garlic to Dutch oven. Sauté for 1 to 2 minutes to absorb leftover roast juice. Place meat back into Dutch oven along with 2 bay leaves. Combine the mushroom soup and Worcestershire sauce and pour over the roast. Add the beef broth. Cover and bake for 2 hours. Add potatoes, carrots and onions. Cover and bake for another 1 to1 ½ hours or until meat and vegetables are tender. Remove meat and vegetables and keep warm. Discard the bay leaves. Put Dutch oven over a medium heat and add cornstarch/water mixture. Bring to a boil, stirring constantly. Season to taste. Pour gravy through mesh strainer to remove any lumps. *House Seasoning: 4 parts salt, 1 part pepper, 1 part garlic powder. And last but not least..... Niedermeyer's Dead Horse sent me this photo. I have no idea what to make of it, except that it is so ridiculous I am going to try it. ![]() Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Beer in it makes it great
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:04 PM (hk3Fb) 2
Roomy
Posted by: Aviator at January 31, 2016 04:04 PM (c7vUv) 3
Fermentation, I thought you would show the Morons how to make mash.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 04:05 PM (t2KH5) 4
HTH did wiener-noodles not make this post?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2016 04:05 PM (8PbKi) 5
We have dinner guests arriving in an hour. I spent a fair part of yesterday afternoon doing the prep. It's a Mexican themed meal, the centerpiece of which are chicken enchiladas made to the recipe my mother got from the Mexican maids when we were stationed there many moons ago.
It's delicious, but boy is there a lot of chopping and reducing and frying. I'm pretty sure you won't get these at Taco Bell or Chi-Chi's (were they still around). Naturally, the pre-dinner drinks are Margaritas made the proper way with good tequila, fresh lime juice, simple syrup and Cointreau. Did I mention this is a church group? Posted by: pep at January 31, 2016 04:06 PM (LAe3v) 6
I'm not taking diet advice from a moron!
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 31, 2016 04:06 PM (Cq0oW) 7
We do a pizza dough recipe that gets a honey brown beer, fantastic
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:07 PM (hk3Fb) Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2016 04:07 PM (6FqZa) 9
Making me hungry again.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 04:07 PM (t2KH5) 10
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2016 04:05 PM (8PbKi)
I was planning next week, but what the hell..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:09 PM (Zu3d9) 11
If I get too much fermentation, my salami doesn't work so good.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at January 31, 2016 04:10 PM (AhyHb) 12
I'm on an all bacon diet. It may kill me, but I'll die happy.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 04:10 PM (kTF2Z) 13
Thinking about this that as we do starting with a cup of beer is doing what fermentation is doing overnight without the wait, but all dough seems to improve with a little time.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:11 PM (hk3Fb) 14
Hooboy, I love Yorkshire Pudding, too. And make it at least 2 times a year, or whenever I've got a prime rib roast hanging around. The first time I served it to my (snob) fil, who scoffed at "British Food, I don't know why people make Yorkshire Pudding..." Then he and my mil would quietly jump from the table, go into my kitchen and grab another! I think my mil ate 3-4. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (qCMvj) 15
So I'm trying to lose the last of the baby weight so I'm avoiding bread and pasta. This seems to be the best weight loss method for me.
Anyway, that's all fine and good except when it comes to lunches. I really, really, really hate salad. Unless it's Fuzzy's taco salad which is barely a salad at all. And obviously not eating bread means no sandwiches either. I'm basically surviving on Chick Fil A's grilled nuggets and Progresso Chicken Corn Chowder in the afternoons. Anyone have any better ideas? Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2) 16
Eat food you enjoy. Eat lots of different foods. Don't eat too much of anything. Don't listen to idiots who write tips for what diet is best for you. This is the best diet advice ever. Diets seem to want to suck the enjoyment of life out of you. Food is a celebration, especially with people you love-whether family or friends. So we celebrated The Blizzard of 2016 (TM) with challah French toast and thick cut bacon. And turkey bacon for me because I am freaking allergic to real, honest to goodness bacon. Thick cuts of gorgeous, eggy challah, soaked in egg and rice milk *, with sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg and vanilla, and sauteed until crisp on the outside. Sprinkled with sliced strawberries and syrup, and some toasted almond slices. All the better to shovel snow with. * rice milk because dairy allergy, but it makes pancakes and french toast fluffy and crisp at the same time. Be sure to get vanilla flavored, enriched rice milk, since that just tastes better. The only reason not to eat a food is because you either hate it with a passion, or you are allergic and it will kill you til you die from it. Not because some skinny scold says it's bad. ( Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (7q2ch) 17
Haven't baked pizza in ages, but I used to use two packets of yeast and just let the dough rise for an hour before rolling it out and baking the pie. Leftover dough is frozen and then thawed the day of use. Both have yielded very crisp and tasty crusts. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:13 PM (zLP1L) 18
Lauren, yes stop with the Chic-fil-A
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (hk3Fb) 19
anyone have a favorite crock pot pot roast recipe?
Posted by: Mordineus at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (aikfe) 20
I need to learn fermentation.
I'm moderately prepared for the hunt gather fish build shelter and fire aspects of the burning times. But I don't know how to make booze. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (1xUj/) 21
Everything's so white.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (kTF2Z) 22
In before the sauerkraut brewers...so I can get out before the sauerkraut brewers...
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (xq1UY) 23
Something tells me Yorkshire Pudding doesn't contain pudding.
All these English dishes are a lie. Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (qUNWi) 24
15 Anyone have any better ideas?
Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2) Eat more protein to compensate for your dislike of salads. Too bad; with tomato, a bit of feta, cucumber and some olives, nothing beats a nice filling Greek salad. Other than that, drink lots of water with lemon. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:15 PM (zLP1L) 25
I made a crock pot kalua pork the other day which turned out good.
the 9lb roast barely fit in the crockpot. I had to keep syphoning off the liquid to get it to roast right (otherwise it was more of a braise). I saved it, chilled it, skimmed off the pork fat and added it back in. (The pork takes back most of the liquid re-adding that salty smoky flavor.) I did bread machine jam today which was a mitigated disaster. I added a bit more fruit, adjusted sugar pectin. First I screwed up the math on the pectin. No big deal, it'll just be extra firm. But the extra ingredients caused a massive boil over, took me 40 min to get the damned thing clean. Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 31, 2016 04:15 PM (tM4uk) 26
For home pizza tricks are a pizza stone w/ corn meal, high temp, plain sauce no spaghetti kind.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:16 PM (hk3Fb) 27
This is important stuff. We are being played like pinballs by the media and the government. Just follow "Dildo's Tips For What Diet Is Best For You."
Eat food you enjoy. Eat lots of different foods. Don't eat too much of anything. Don't listen to idiots who write tips for what diet is best for you. haha As you know, I'm "dieting" right now. The after the holidays, pre-a wedding I have to attend diet. I do just what you say. I just cut back. No bread, though. Zippo on bread. No refined sugars (just from fresh fruit). And smaller portions of whatever I make. I almost always eat a small yogurt for breakfast, which for some reason (protein?), really fills me up for hours, and taste great. Like ice cream to me. And, of course, I work out at least 20mins at least 5 days a week. Average 45mins or so. But, I have to, because I love to cook, bake and eat. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:16 PM (qCMvj) 28
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (7q2ch)
Yup.... And: Thick-cut or Thin-cut? I am not sure. I think I will have to continue to examine this vexing problem. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:17 PM (Zu3d9) 29
15-do you like hummus, Lauren? Carrot sticks and hummus are pretty tasty as a snack. Tzatziki as well-plain greek yogurt, finely chopped cucumber (English cucumber is best for this-the long ones in cellophane), dill, salt and garlic powder. If you can incorporate a whole wheat pita into your diet once a day, fill it with the tzatziki and hummus, and some extra chopped cucumber and tomato, drizzle with a little olive oil, and you get a high protein, high fiber snack. Add some grilled or thinly sliced, sauteed chicken (olive oil, lemon, garlic, salt, parsley) and it's a great lunch/dinner. My family demands this at least once a week.
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:18 PM (7q2ch) 30
All these English dishes are a lie.
No, no. The dick is really spotted. "Corn chowder" is not going to save you from bread and potatoes. Easily as much carbohydrate, and maybe even livelier in the glycemic department. You just plain can't have a sammidge because they sugar those buns. Even the good ones. Just eat a lot of meat and cheese. And vegetables, as if you could get those drive-thrue without being deep-fried. I'm not even sure deep frying would be too bad, except, breading. Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2016 04:18 PM (xq1UY) 31
"nothing beats a nice filling Greek salad.
" I don't mind Greek salad, but it tends to be a gateway drug to all the other delicious Greek food my great-aunt used to make. So I'm like "yum, this Greek salad is good..but where the hell is my baklava?" Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:19 PM (f3Iw2) 32
I really, really, really hate salad. Unless it's Fuzzy's taco salad which is barely a salad at all. And obviously not eating bread means no sandwiches either.
I'm basically surviving on Chick Fil A's grilled nuggets and Progresso Chicken Corn Chowder in the afternoons. Anyone have any better ideas? Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2) Soup! Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:19 PM (qCMvj) 33
All these English dishes are a lie.
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (qUNWi) Must you insult us? Posted by: Spotted Dick at January 31, 2016 04:19 PM (Zu3d9) 34
I've been doing low carb and it is working quite well. Like Lauren, lunches are difficult. One solution is a can of soup without noodles. Also, I've been buying those rotisserie chickens and eating half for a lunch. Pretty good and you don't miss the carbs.
I'm having carbs once in a while, but not very much. Lost 14 lbs in 2 weeks, though this week has been rather slow. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2016 04:20 PM (UpGcq) 35
Hummus is good. I used to eat it all the time but sort of forgot about its existence lately. I'll have to pick some up. Thanks
Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:21 PM (f3Iw2) 36
I must say, weekends without football suck. No, the pro bowl doesn't count.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 04:22 PM (kTF2Z) 37
Blancmange - the French version of jello with carrots.
Posted by: pep at January 31, 2016 04:22 PM (LAe3v) 38
>>>I'm basically surviving on Chick Fil A's grilled nuggets and Progresso Chicken Corn Chowder in the afternoons.
Anyone have any better ideas? Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2)<<< I've got some lunch ideas that might help you lose weight*. * 'cause you'll lose your appetite. Posted by: Moochelle Obama at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (H9MG5) 39
"Lost 14 lbs in 2 weeks, though this week has been rather slow."
Nice! I'm not weighing because my scale broke while I was pregnant (hey, no mean jokes my kids dropped it!) and I just have not wanted to know what it has to tell me since then. I'm measuring success based on fitting in jeans. I can now comfortably fit in my pre-baby fat jeans, and can squeeze into my normal jeans if I don't breathe much. Hopefully next week I can take a breath! Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (f3Iw2) 40
"Sabra" brand hummus is made by exotic slave girls in the Negev desert.
So you can balance out the carbs with fiber, and also piss off a SJW. Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (xq1UY) 41
[Taken today, and I was supposed to be at that table, but life sucks sometimes]
- CBD ------------- maybe it's just me (and my second white russian), but that pic looks a lot like my doggeh resting after a long hard day of chasing shadows. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (ENe42) 42
It's blowing up a storm. The wind is coming thru all the cracks and seams of the windows. I'll probably lose my power.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (iQIUe) 43
Speaking of pate fermentee, I messed up my bread formula yesterday (? days run together) and tried to fix it. Half the mistake went into the 'fridge, the other half went into a bread pan and then into the oven. It came out resembling something like bread.
The other half sits in the 'fridge and goes into the pan sometime today when I get over this food hangover from this morning. Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (x3fqZ) Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (qUNWi) 45
I'm having carbs once in a while, but not very much. Lost 14 lbs in 2 weeks
That's great. I'm traditionally a workout and Atkins guy. For reasons I've been slothing about and eating carbs for the last two months. Shockingly, I've grown a gut. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (1xUj/) 46
"anyone have a favorite crock pot pot roast recipe?"
Brown it in a regular frying pan, both sides, 3 to 5 minutes each. Put in the crock pot, add 2 to 4 cups water (may substitute broth) cut up 2 whole onions, 2 whole potatoes, 4 peeled carrots. Add salt to taste. Cook on high for 5 to 6 hours. Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (8QGte) 47
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 04:16 PM (hk3Fb)
I use a pizza stone, and I can get the surface to 600 degrees without much trouble. But I hate corn meal on pizza dough. I just use a careful dusting of all-purpose flour. I have to be careful not to use too much or it will burn, but I have been making pizza for a long time and I don't often screw it up. One issue with a very hot pizza stone is that the bottom cooks before the toppings have a chance to brown and crisp. One solution is to move the pizza to the top rack under the broiler for the last 30 seconds of the bake. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (Zu3d9) 48
>>>But, I have to, because I love to cook, bake and eat.
One of my sisters used to have a sign in her kitchen. "Never trust a thin cook". Posted by: HH at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (DrCtv) 49
maybe it's just me (and my second white russian), but that pic looks a lot like my doggeh resting after a long hard day of chasing shadows.
------------------ Yum! Posted by: Barry O at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (kTF2Z) 50
I made a roast chicken this week. I decided to brine this one, because I really didn't want to make it that day, so I brined it overnight. Usually I don't if it's a midweek home alone chicken roast. While it was hanging out, I was looking up things about chicken (I don't remember why). But I noticed there were real arguments about whether to rinse chicken before grilling, baking, roasting or whatnot. I didn't know some people felt so passionately about it. I usually rinse if I'm not brining, and dry really well to get that really crispy skin. Anyway, I was laughing. There are arguments about everything. My husband is opposed to rinsing (but that's just him being too lazy to deal with it, as he tosses it on the grill). Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qCMvj) 51
Am I the only one that thinks hummus is bean dip?
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qUNWi) 52
Yes, cold fermentation gives u some nice flavors (pilsner). I have a raised-waffle recipe that needs an overnite in the fridge. Heh, we made pizza this weekend, too. My first regular job was at a pizza place. And yes, fennel belongs in pizza sauce.
For that chuck roast recipe, I suggest a 7-bone chuck if u can find it. Go to your butcher and tell him you want the biggest he has in the locker, should be around 4 pounds or so. Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 04:26 PM (Amtf1) 53
28-We had thick cut bacon for Christmas brunch, and I had a horrible allergic reaction-hives, throat swelling shut, difficulty breathing...I do that with shellfish as well. So, I am presuming it's a sensitivity to a curing salt. Deli ham is no problem, but regular ham is, as is regular pork. My Eastern European, possibly Jewish heritage comes through.
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:26 PM (7q2ch) 54
I must say, weekends without football suck.
I've actually gone off football for the most part. Just had enough of the dreadlocks and thug culture of all those overpaid kollidge grajooits, I guess. Not that anybody cares. Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:26 PM (SK7CK) 55
"Lauren has salad issues."
Haha I do. It's true. I just really taste the bitter notes in green leafy veggies so it's just not very fun. I can do a wedge "salad", but let's be honest guys that's just a more socially acceptable way to drink dressing and bacon. Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:26 PM (f3Iw2) 56
Am I the only one that thinks hummus is bean dip?
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qUNWi) ***** Sure, it's chickpeas. Posted by: Tim in GA at January 31, 2016 04:26 PM (X+kq/) 57
What could you call those weenie pasta things for Halloween? You know - where peeled grapes are eyeballs.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 04:27 PM (iQIUe) 58
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anyone have a favorite crock pot pot roast recipe? Posted by: Mordineus at January 31, 2016 04:14 PM (aikfe) Any pot roast you do on the stove can be done in a crock pot and it will be even better. I use the same recipe from my Betty Crocker for pot roast. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 04:28 PM (t2KH5) 59
I added a couple more soups to my To-Make soup list. The Butternut squash one I like, that I linked here once, with a Fiji apple, and some concentrated frozen orange juice, cayenne, with the mushroom "croutons." And, a Roasted Tomato Bisque. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:28 PM (qCMvj) 60
Limp noodle-dogs?
Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:28 PM (SK7CK) 61
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 04:23 PM (x3fqZ)
Because baking is not science....it's magic. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:28 PM (Zu3d9) 62
Am I the only one that thinks hummus is bean dip?
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qUNWi) That's all it is (chick peas and sesame seeds) but I've never heard it described as such. And, luckily, it doesn't taste like "bean dip". Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:29 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:29 PM (f3Iw2) 64
I hate hummus. In fact, I hate it so much that I am starting to hate people who don't hate it. Cause I'm a hater I guess.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:30 PM (SK7CK) 65
Lauren,
I freeze a bunch of ground beef patties individually, defrost one real quick in the microwave then fry it up for a quick lunch. Salad with mine, but that is optional. I have a question for the Horde about beef fat. I made a big batch of crock pot beef broth and now it has the beef fat on the top. What else can I use the fat for? Can I use it for roasting potatoes or will it be too strong? I know they used to fry french fries in beef tallow, is it the same thing? Thanks for any info! Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 04:30 PM (vX9lK) 66
Porkupiglets!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (Z8fuk) 67
My wife makes a pepper beef roast in the crock pot. It tastes pretty good. the peppers are Greek peppercinis (sp).
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (mUa7N) 68
No food is healthy. Not even kale. Oh, I'm going to add to this. YES! DEEP-FRYING VEGETABLES MAKES THEM MORE NUTRITIOUS - AND TASTIER A recent study at the University of Granada in Spain has found that frying vegetables in extra virgin olive oil changes them for the better, adding phenolic compounds, which have antioxidant properties. Boiling and other methods of cooking veggies have no such benefit. http://ow.ly/XLI1c oh hellz yeah Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (qCMvj) 69
I hate hummus. In fact, I hate it so much that I am starting to hate people who don't hate it. Cause I'm a hater I guess.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:30 PM (SK7CK) I love hummus. I put it on almost everything. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (zc3Db) 70
Am I the only one that thinks hummus is bean dip?
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qUNWi) ***** Sure, it's chickpeas. Posted by: Tim in GA ------------- Yeah, it's bean dip. ^ what he said. BTW, chickpeas = garbanzo BEANS., buy you knew that already. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (ENe42) 71
I made a big batch of crock pot beef broth and now it has the beef fat on the top. What else can I use the fat for?
It's good for greasing cartridges. Posted by: The British Raj at January 31, 2016 04:32 PM (LAe3v) 72
That weenie sputnik plate reminds me of a trailer trash version of Japanese "cruel food" -- like floating cubes of cold tofu in hot broth and dumping little live fish into the soup, and they burrow into the tofu to escape the heat. Yeah, they end up boiled, but apparently it is to die for.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 04:32 PM (jR7Wy) 73
The first time I served it to my (snob) fil, who scoffed at "British Food, I don't know why people make Yorkshire Pudding..."
Then he and my mil would quietly jump from the table, go into my kitchen and grab another! I think my mil ate 3-4. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (qCMvj) It never ceases to amaze me that you can make such nice buns from those yappy little dogs. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (Z8fuk) 74
I made a big batch of crock pot beef broth and now it has the beef fat on the top. What else can I use the fat for?
Making the best soap around. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (zc3Db) 75
One issue with a very hot pizza stone is that the bottom cooks before the toppings have a chance to brown and crisp. One solution is to move the pizza to the top rack under the broiler for the last 30 seconds of the bake.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (Zu3d9) A pizza screen is an inexpensive addition to the home-pizza maker. A peel, the metal one with a wood handle, makes transfer a snap. Any restaurant supply will have them. I cook as high as my oven goes on a screen set on a stone and remove the screen for the last couple of minutes transferring the pie back on the stone. I like a thin, cracker crust. Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (Amtf1) 76
The longer you let your dough rise the more sour it will get. Not really sour, probably, since that is a result of various strains of yeast (and most people now use packaged yeast) but it will get tangy.
I use an unbleached flour that has malted barley in it - that helps break down the starch to sugar the way malt does in beer making. I have gone to making really soupy sponge (2C flour and 2C water) as the starter, then add a squirt of oil and 4-5 more cups of flour to get it just past the sticky stage, and let it rise once. Then instead of rolling it or kneading it, I hold the dough in both hands with my thumbs on top and start turning it under and inside out. That seems to stretch the dough and begin forming the gluten without breaking and tangling it. When it starts tearing on the top, I put it aside to rise again. The third time I form into loave(s) Using a cup of cracked wheat seems to make a more moist bread, as does potato flakes. Potato flakes make the dough sticky, so to handle it I roll it in flour. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:34 PM (q2o38) 77
Those wienie-noodle thingies are cringeworthy. And most likely very tasty.
Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 04:34 PM (BngQR) 78
Pot Roast in the crock pot:
Rump roast-patted dry with paper towel, liberally coated with salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder and celery seed. Heat a large skillet to medium high, and pour in 1-2 tbsp olive oil and 1-2 tbsp butter or margarine. Brown all sides of the roast in the oil. Remove roast, place in crock pot. Turn down heat on skillet, and deglaze with 1/2 cup red wine and 2 cups beef broth (confession-I use white wine because I'm allergic to red wine. Yes, I hate my body because it hates good things.) Pour liquid over meat in crock pot. Add 2 cups of large diced potato (halving the little round red potatoes works great) and 2 cups of carrot chunks, 1 cup chopped onion, 1 cup chopped celery, turn heat to high if you can eat in 6 hours, or low if you are heading out to work. At dinner, serve with sauteed green beans or a side salad for a balanced color palette. Leftovers are awesome for lunch the next day as well. Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:35 PM (7q2ch) Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 31, 2016 04:35 PM (ej1L0) 80
Sabra lemon hummus is my new found thing. Delish.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 04:36 PM (jR7Wy) 81
Shit! Rain has stopped but it is suppose to get even windier.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 04:36 PM (iQIUe) 82
I love hummus. I put it on almost everything.[i/]
I haaaaaaaaaaaate yooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Just kidding.... Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:37 PM (SK7CK) 83
64- I hated hummus with a passion until I had some really good Israeli hummus. It was amazing. Sabra is passable, but it doesn't hold a candle to this stuff from Tel Aviv- I can't remember the name of the shop.
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (7q2ch) 84
I love hummus. I put it on almost everything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:31 PM (zc3Db) Yeah, me too. I could eat it every day. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (qCMvj) 85
Sabra lemon hummus is my new found thing. Delish.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage One imagines you have to make the bacon crispier to scoop it out? Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (1xUj/) 86
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (Amtf1)
I don't bother with the screen, but the peel is indispensable. And loads of fun. Well, once you learn how to transfer the pizza onto the stone. I had a few catastrophes until I got good at it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (Zu3d9) 87
I made a big batch of crock pot beef broth and now it has the beef fat on the top. What else can I use the fat for?
------------- Pretty much anything you would use butter for. Season the green beans, fry an egg, make a roux, rub it all over your significant other... Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:39 PM (ENe42) 88
I'm a big believer in the simple foods:
More times than I can count, I've made a spanish tortilla (a sort of potato and egg omelette) my dinner, and have never failed to be satisfied with it. Slice the 'taters thin and fry 'em in olive oil with some onions, then drain. Mix up say half a dozen eggs with a bit of mile or cream if you like, sprinkle in a bit of salty and pepper, then stir in the taters and onions (make sure they're cool, otherwise, the eggs wil set too quickly) and dump into a large, heavy skillet, well-oiled, and on medium low heat. After about 5 or so minutes, get a big plate, put it on top of the skillt, and flip the omelette out onto the plate before sliding it back into the skillet for about 5 minutes. Done. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 04:40 PM (lutOX) 89
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (7q2ch)
There is a small chain of restaurants in Israel call "Avazi." Insanely good hummus with pita fresh out of the oven. And grilled foie gras. Heaven. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:40 PM (Zu3d9) 90
One issue with a very hot pizza stone is that the bottom cooks before the toppings have a chance to brown and crisp. One solution is to move the pizza to the top rack under the broiler for the last 30 seconds of the bake.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (Zu3d9) That's what I do. I flip the broiler on after the dough is baked to my liking. Only if there is meat on top, that is. I always use a stone, too. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:41 PM (qCMvj) 91
Wife got a SIX page article in the "What Women Want" magazine, including a two page pic leadin. Recipes for AntiPasti, Lobster Salad, Squab in Rose Petal Sauce, Chocolate Peanut Butter Brownie Sundae. If you want send her a note at her page (link in nick) and I'll go pick up a few and send them to you.
McGyver, Out Posted by: McGyver at January 31, 2016 04:41 PM (6hAG+) 92
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (1xUj/)
Is there anything bacon isn't good with? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:41 PM (Zu3d9) 93
I hate hummus. In fact, I hate it so much that I am starting to hate people who don't hate it. Cause I'm a hater I guess.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 04:30 PM (SK7CK) Sabra makes a Babaganoush to die for. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:42 PM (q2o38) 94
And grilled foie gras.
Heaven. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:40 PM (Zu3d9) oh my that's food pron Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:42 PM (qCMvj) 95
I hated hummus with a passion until I had some really good Israeli hummus. It was amazing. Sabra is passable, but it doesn't hold a candle to this stuff from Tel Aviv- I can't remember the name of the shop.
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (7q2ch) If you like hummus then you should make it yourself. It's simple and tastes better than any of the commercial brands. And cheap, too. No cooking involved, just some mixing in a food processor. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:42 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (Zu3d9) 97
What is "hummus?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (tv9zS) 98
Those wienie-noodle thingies are cringeworthy. And most likely very tasty.
Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 04:34 PM (BngQR) Yeah, they kind of freak me out. They need eyes. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (qCMvj) 99
85 Sabra lemon hummus is my new found thing. Delish.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage One imagines you have to make the bacon crispier to scoop it out? Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:38 PM (1xUj/) --- Or my pool boy's soft, soft hands. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 04:44 PM (jR7Wy) 100
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:42 PM (zc3Db)
If I remember I'll post my very simple hummus recipe next week. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (Zu3d9) 101
It never ceases to amaze me that you can make such nice buns from those yappy little dogs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (Z8fuk) french poodles Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (qCMvj) Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (RcpcZ) 103
What is "hummus?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (tv9zS) Chickpeas and sesame seeds all mixed up (with some salt, lemon juice, and garlic). It's awesome. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (zc3Db) 104
75 One issue with a very hot pizza stone is that the bottom cooks before the toppings have a chance to brown and crisp. One solution is to move the pizza to the top rack under the broiler for the last 30 seconds of the bake.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:24 PM (Zu3d9) I line my bottom rack with UNGLAZED quarry tile from Home Depot. About a buck a piece. much cheaper than a pizza stone. With my oven cranked at 550, the tiles kick the temperature up probably another 75 degrees or so. Actually, I think my oven runs considerably hotter than 550. We once made a turkey that we thought would take 3.5 hours and it was done in just over 2. Also, I don't have a pizza peal but I just bake it in a sheet pan and the crust is still very crunchy. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (zLP1L) 105
Mrs fluffy makes pot roast that is out of this world. She uses cream of mushroom soup, but that is her heritage: Yankee WASP.
Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (AfsKp) 106
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (Zu3d9) And very toothsome. There's are reason I'm uh overweight
McGyver, out Posted by: McGyver at January 31, 2016 04:46 PM (6hAG+) 107
I've settled on the best course of action for me:
Eat pretty much what I want, with as much nutritious stuff involved as I can manage, and hit the gym 4-5 days a week, including plenty of cardio. Add in all the hiking/backpacking I do and that's enough to keep me around 170# and a 33" waist. But if I wasn't physically active, the middle-aged spread would come on fast and hard. It runs in my family. So if I want to eat what I want, I gotta do it. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 04:46 PM (HMt16) 108
I bake pizza on an 8" cast iron skillet. It doesn't seem to have a problem, I cook at 425 for 15 minutes - more or less, depending on how crispy I want it.
I've used marinara, spaghetti sauce and I have made putanesca out of tomatoes and garlic and basil from my garden, and I have yet to find a bad pizza sauce. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:47 PM (q2o38) 109
What is "hummus?" Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (tv9zS) A blend of chick peas, tahini (sesame butter), lemon juice, olive oil, salt, pepper and garlic. It emulsifies and becomes a very creamy dip that goes really well with everything. Including bacon! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:47 PM (Zu3d9) 110
97 What is "hummus?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill ---------------- Really? You're joking, right? Chick peas, olive oil, garlic, s & p, food processor, some assembly required. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:47 PM (ENe42) 111
I'm reading all this hummus talk while listening to Dead Can Dance's medieval/ME-y "Radharc":
http://tinyurl.com/hjzu8xp Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 04:47 PM (jR7Wy) 112
Thanks ThePrimordialOrderedPair! I think soap making is a bit much for me to start learning right now. I was thinking along the lines of roasted potatoes. But that is good information to keep in mind.(in case the burning times come soon!)
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 04:48 PM (vX9lK) 113
Fresh hummus rocks. The always wonderful Wegmans chain has some mighty fine fresh hummus in their Mediterranean Olive Bar.
It'll give you the toots though, big time. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 04:48 PM (HMt16) 114
I made farro for the first time the other night, cooked it up, mixed in some pepper and olive oil, put some warned up leftover venison chili on top, piece of toast on the side and a cold beer, pretty damn good.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 31, 2016 04:49 PM (/WfF1) Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:49 PM (ENe42) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:50 PM (tv9zS) 117
If I remember I'll post my very simple hummus recipe next week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:45 PM (Zu3d9) That would be cool. I make hummus for myself but family and friends ask for it a lot. I make decent sized batches to have enough to give away. I used to use tahini but switched over to using sesame seeds (since they're cheaper, easier to store and last longer). I absolutely swear OFF of toasting the sesame seeds. I don't like the taste when they are toasted. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:50 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj) 119
Oh, I am so making some of those hot-dog-and-spag things .... so weird !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (Z8DIA) 120
#74 Making the best soap around.
We've been meaning to try that. We started making our own powdered laundry soap over a year ago and that's been a big success. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (HMt16) 121
OK, I'm listening to Radharc.
I'm picturing layers and layers of gauzy veils dropping to the harem floor. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (1xUj/) 122
64 I hate hummus. In fact, I hate it so much that I am starting to hate people who don't hate it. Trump WILL MAKE HUMMUS GREAT AGAIN! Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (RcpcZ) 123
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 04:48 PM (HMt16)
Then they are probably using fresh chick peas. By no means a bad thing, but it can have that peculiar effect on people. There is a local falafel place that uses fresh chick peas. I simply can't eat it and be in social situations. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (Zu3d9) 124
Bean dip.
Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 04:49 PM (ENe42) I don't want to know what it's bean. I want to know what it is now. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (Z8fuk) 125
I built a few 2 liter CO2 fermentors for the aquarium plants once. They grew yuuge and luxurious.
Posted by: DaveA at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (DL2i+) 126
What do chick pea taste like? Never had 'em. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:50 PM (tv9zS) Sorta like garbanzos. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (RcpcZ) 127
Some Arabs - Egyptians, I think - make their hummus with fava beans, which is a no-no as many, many Jews and others suffer from something called 'favism' which involves the lack of a protein or an amino acid or something that lets them metabolize the stuff properly, leading to severe illness.
Chickpeas, however, are a different matter.... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (lutOX) 128
What is "hummus?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:43 PM (tv9zS) A can of rinsed chickpeas 1-2 Tbsp tahini 1 Tbsp lemon juice 1-3 garlic teeth 1/4 C olive oil 1-2 tsp salt dump the chickpeas oil salt and lemon juice into a blender. Whomp it up while whomping it put the tahini in put it in a bowl and sprinkle with paprika or powdered red pepper. You can add lots of other stuff in too. Don't use 8-10 garlic teeth or only Mrs Tran will like it. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (q2o38) 129
Oh, I am so making some of those hot-dog-and-spag things .... so weird !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 04:51 PM (Z8DIA) They look like embryonic Cthulhus. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (Z8fuk) 130
t never ceases to amaze me that you can make such nice buns from those yappy little dogs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:33 PM (Z8fuk) here's another I served a salad that had arugula in it. I think it was with a disc of warmed/baked goat cheese on top. The comment "what is this 'cheap' 'lettuce'." With disgust, I might add, while poking at this plate... yeah. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (qCMvj) 131
116-also known as garbanzo beans, and used in Italian and Indian cooking. Minestrone soup often has garbanzo beans, and chana masala, which is chick peas/garbanzo beans in a tomato curry sauce. Both very yummy.
Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (7q2ch) 132
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 04:48 PM (vX9lK)
With the correct materials, soap making is quite straightforward. Posted by: Joseph Mengele at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (Zu3d9) 133
Lacto-fermentation has become my new friend in the kitchen. I am making my own Greek yogurt, sauerkraut (and I'll be using the process for other veggies), sourdough caraway rye bread, and, come summer, making fermented pickles.
Besides liking the taste of these foods, turns out the process is very helpful as far as my diabetes is concerned. I'll be looking for ways to expand what I can make with the fermentation process. It wasn't cheap but we got the bread proofer sold by King Arthur flour and Amazon. (Same machine.) Definitely worth it/ My bread dough rises correctly ever time and it works great for making yogurt, especially when I make 2 or 3 quarts at a time. Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (FvdPb) 134
They look like embryonic Cthulhus.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (Z8fuk) dip some of the tips in some kind of red sauce, like they attacked a human Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (qCMvj) 135
Hey everybody. Ah, food thread. Got a question:
Has anyone ever tried to make beer from Malt-o-Meal? Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (ntObR) 136
Thanks ThePrimordialOrderedPair! I think soap making is a bit much for me to start learning right now. I was thinking along the lines of roasted potatoes. But that is good information to keep in mind.(in case the burning times come soon!)
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 04:48 PM (vX9lK) If you ever do get interested making soap is very simple. The only ingredient that is a pain to get is lye but other than that it's all simple. And the soap you whip up will be the best soap you've had. It is almost impossible to screw up making soap (using a crock pot for hot process - which is what I would always recommend). Rendered beef fat ends up making the best soap, in my opinion. I started making soap a couple of years ago because I like very plain soap with nothing in it and I would never go back to commercial soap. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: Pres O'dogeater at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (Amtf1) Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (ntObR) 139
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 04:53 PM (FvdPb)
I have a bread proofing setting on my oven....one reason I bought it. It is a fantastic help. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (Zu3d9) 140
You can add lots of other stuff in too. Don't use 8-10 garlic teeth or only Mrs Tran will like it.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (q2o3 *** Yeah...about that. Made hummus with my angel, using my mother's recipe. First taste, and she said, "Kinda bland," before adding about half a head of garlic, a dash of fish sauce, and a good squirt of sri racha to the blender bowl and firing it up again..... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 04:55 PM (lutOX) 141
127-that's foul medammas, rather than hummus. It's what is eaten for breakfast in the Middle East, along with fresh hot pita or za'atar bread. It is so good. Hummus is almost exclusively chick peas in the Middle East. It's just fancy pants chefs who make it with something else.
Which would be bean dip. Posted by: Moki at January 31, 2016 04:55 PM (7q2ch) Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 04:55 PM (kTF2Z) Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (q2o38) 144
If you ever do get interested making soap is very simple. The only ingredient that is a pain to get is lye but other than that it's all simple. And the soap you whip up will be the best soap you've had. It is almost impossible to screw up making soap (using a crock pot for hot process - which is what I would always recommend).
Rendered beef fat ends up making the best soap, in my opinion. I started making soap a couple of years ago because I like very plain soap with nothing in it and I would never go back to commercial soap. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (zc3Db) They no longer sell Gillette's Lye in the grocery store? Used to be a standard item in the cleaning materials aisle. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (Z8fuk) 145
You're right, AOP, I think I'll tell Mrs Eez that when I make 'em ....
And brilliant idea about the tiles JJS, thanks ! I think I have some of those out in the shed, even better. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (Z8DIA) 146
Just finished reading 585 pages of Dept. of Homeland Security regs and condensing it down into 6 pages for our employee manual. My eyes are thoroughly glazed over, but it's done, e-mailed to the powers-that-be, and I get 6 hours OT for it, done from home while listening to tunes and having some beers.
Now it's time to celebrate by finishing off the last of yesterday's Shepherd's Pie. Mmmmmmmm. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 04:57 PM (HMt16) 147
Also, apologies for threadjacking but gotta ask:
Anybody gonna watch Grease Fire Live tonight? Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (ntObR) oh, I took the bait! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikrZy6NLzg Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:57 PM (qCMvj) 148
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (q2o3
I use much more tahini and olive oil. I like the flavor of the tahini, and I like the mouth fell of tons of olive oil. What? NO...I am NOT fat! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:57 PM (Zu3d9) 149
Anybody gonna watch Grease Fire Live tonight?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (ntObR) we see those all the time Posted by: your local fire department at January 31, 2016 04:58 PM (dK38d) 150
oh, I took the bait!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikrZy6NLzg Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:57 PM (qCMvj) NSFW or children walls are dirty Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 04:58 PM (qCMvj) 151
I had Yorkshire Pudding in Yorkshire. The size of a dinner plate and smothered in some sort of brown gravy. It was...authentic?
I have not had Bloater Saint Hubert, Bubble and Squeak, or Spotted Dick. I swear. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 04:58 PM (jR7Wy) 152
Another question for the horde:
what's that spicy sauce you (or I) often see crab or crawfish coated in at places like the below? thefirecrab.com Does anyone have a recipe for it? It looks like some sort of cajun/asian fusion, also it looks like it contains lots of red pepper flakes. I don't think it's classic Asian Chile Garlic sauce, however. Would someone please fill me in?? Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 04:58 PM (ntObR) 153
hummus is bean dip?
Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 04:25 PM (qUNWi) ***** Sure, it's chickpeas. Hey, you bean a wiseguy? Posted by: The Grabonzo Brothers at January 31, 2016 04:59 PM (DL2i+) 154
Pizza! Oh, just the dough.
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 31, 2016 04:59 PM (b2qGx) 155
They no longer sell Gillette's Lye in the grocery store? Used to be a standard item in the cleaning materials aisle. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (Z8fuk) Bathtub chemists use it to make DMT or some such drug so it's practically illegal anymore. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 04:59 PM (RcpcZ) Posted by: DaveA at January 31, 2016 05:00 PM (DL2i+) 157
I don't want to know what it's bean. I want to know what it is now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ----------------- Ha! This reminds me of fishing in the eighties with Dad & his Navy buddies. I caught some random fish that had sores all over it. "Throw that thing overboard - It's got the kepone!" "Well, whatever it has, it can kepone swimming - I ain't eating it!" Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:00 PM (ENe42) 158
They no longer sell Gillette's Lye in the grocery store? Used to be a standard item in the cleaning materials aisle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (Z8fuk) *** Thank the meth-cookers for that, too.... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 05:00 PM (lutOX) 159
They no longer sell Gillette's Lye in the grocery store? Used to be a standard item in the cleaning materials aisle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (Z8fuk) I never looked in the grocery store, to be honest. You can't get 100% lye at the hardware stores anymore - not the ones I've been to. But I found a place online that sends it out pretty cheaply, something around $1/lb, including shipping and everything. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 05:00 PM (zc3Db) 160
Hi Chi, glad to see you made it through the night
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 05:00 PM (uZNvH) 161
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 04:54 PM (zc3Db)
Where do you get your lye? We tried to get some for our cabin's out house and all the hardware stores we checked didn't carry it anymore. Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (vX9lK) 162
143 All Hail Eris, ever heard of Infected Mushrooms?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uloBD9xxwZ0 Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:56 PM (q2o3 --- I like it (them?). Kinda DeadMau5-y. And I LOVE the album cover. It would make Tim Benzadrine laugh and laugh. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (jR7Wy) 163
The pioneers made their own lye, which I believe was also used in making grits, as well as soap.
Hard to believe something as caustic as lye was used in corn processing. I have an illustrated book on pioneer life that shows the whole process of making lye, soap and hominy grits. Have to dig that book out... Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (HMt16) 164
>>>Has anyone ever tried to make beer from Malt-o-Meal?<<<
Cell block 8 in Chino has a recipe, but you need a block of government cheese, two anchovies and a can of Sterno. Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (BngQR) 165
CBD, cooking is what you like. That's why I cook instead of unwrap.
The nice thing about hummus is that you add stuff after tasting, exact proportions are not essential in prepping. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:02 PM (q2o38) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 05:02 PM (Zu3d9) 167
Isn't Drano mostly lye?
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:02 PM (mUa7N) 168
Isn't Drano mostly lye?
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:02 PM (mUa7N) Used to be. I think they reformulated it, so that it doesn't work anymore. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:04 PM (Z8fuk) 169
Sabra makes a Babaganoush to die for.
Now babaganoush I love! It's as much fun to order as it is to eat..... Babababa-ganoush, bababababaganoush.....(sung to the tune of Barbara Ann from the Beach Boys) Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 05:04 PM (SK7CK) 170
CBD - you need to check out The Field, an English hunting mag, and look at their recipe section. Stuff like "Haggis pakora. An Indian Scottish fusion." Etc.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hyjf76k Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 31, 2016 05:04 PM (/WPPJ) Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (SK7CK) 172
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:02 PM (q2o3
Exactly. By the way, a friend of mine made some hummus with tons of roasted garlic and a fair amount of Sriracha. Weird...and damned good. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (Zu3d9) 173
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 04:52 PM (q2o3
I use much more tahini and olive oil. I like the flavor of the tahini, and I like the mouth fell of tons of olive oil. What? NO...I am NOT fat! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 04:57 PM (Zu3d9) I make the one from The New Best Recipe, and I don't alter it, except maybe more garlic. I've tried so many, but this one suits my tastes. 1 15oz can chickpeas (drained and rinsed) 1 medium garlic 3/ 4 tsp salt Pinch of Cayenne pepper 3 T fresh lemon juice 1/ 4 cup tahini 1/ 4 cup olive oil 1/ 4 cup water chilled at least 30 mins for the flavors to meld Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (qCMvj) 174
Hard to believe something as caustic as lye was used in corn processing. I have an illustrated book on pioneer life that shows the whole process of making lye, soap and hominy grits. Have to dig that book out... Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (HMt16) You need to build a slobber-box and then boil the leachate down to where it will float a raw egg . . . Firefox? Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (q2o38) Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (mUa7N) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 05:06 PM (Z8DIA) 177
Or the first time I ever saw poutine.
Dad said "what is that pile of crap?" Waitress: "it's just french fries covered in cheese and gravy." "Well, whatever it is, I ain't poutine it in my mouth!" Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:06 PM (ENe42) 178
I have an illustrated book on pioneer life that shows the whole process
of making lye, soap and hominy grits. Have to dig that book out... Okay, so hominy grits did they make? Posted by: LGoPs at January 31, 2016 05:06 PM (SK7CK) 179
I have not had Bloater Saint Hubert, Bubble and Squeak, or Spotted Dick. I swear.
I've had spotted dick, and chip butties too. Other than fish & chips and shepherd's pie that's about the extent of my Brit food experience. We did make an old fashioned boiled-in-a-bag plum duff last winter, using a 17th century recipe! No plums in plum duff (lots of raisins though.) It was very good, extremely rich and very filling. Plus, any cooking method that involves dumping a bunch of ingredients in a bag and plunging it into a vat of boiling death for a couple of hours is A-OK with me! Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:06 PM (HMt16) 180
You need to build a slobber-box and then boil the leachate down to where it will float a raw egg . . . Firefox? Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:05 PM (q2o3 US Army Technical Manual for improvised explosives. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:07 PM (RcpcZ) Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 31, 2016 05:07 PM (ntObR) 182
British puddings are also a cake like dish that does not have eggs in it.
I own a pudding tin and do make them from time to time. Nomm. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:08 PM (q2o38) 183
Where do you get your lye? We tried to get some for our cabin's out house and all the hardware stores we checked didn't carry it anymore.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 05:01 PM (vX9lK) I go online to Essential Depot. http://www.essentialdepot.com/category/sodium-hydroxide-components.html? I was mistaken, it runs a little over $2/lb in bulk - 32 lbs for $75 total. I like this place ... and I also buy some materials from duda diesel. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (zc3Db) 184
Just finished reading 585 pages of Dept. of Homeland Security regs and condensing it down into 6 pages for our employee manual. My eyes are thoroughly glazed over, but it's done, e-mailed to the powers-that-be, and I get 6 hours OT for it, done from home while listening to tunes and having some beers. Now it's time to celebrate by finishing off the last of yesterday's Shepherd's Pie. Mmmmmmmm.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? You're welcome. Posted by: Barack Obama at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (b2qGx) 185
I own and operate a medium-ish sized artisan bakery. If you are after slow, cool fermentation you definitely need some malted barley flour. I use 1 oz per 25lbs of unbleached wheat flour. The pre-malted flours available do not use enough, so i avoid them and add my own.
Also, the longer you want to ferment, the less yeast you will want to use. Barely any yeast for overnight fermentation. It is well worth the added time to go the slow fermentation route. Also, try adding more fold-downs to the process. For books, I recommend Peter Rienhart's "Crust and Crumb." Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (Wfp8t) 186
15---I'm basically surviving on Chick Fil A's grilled nuggets and Progresso Chicken Corn Chowder in the afternoons.
Anyone have any better ideas? Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2) ---------- Eggs. Best appetite suppressant I know. I can't diet without a bunch of hard-boiled ones in the fridge so I can grab one when I need a a snack. I'll cut them in half lengthways and spread a little butter on 'em. Salt and pepper. Eat. With the butter (which makes it taste richer) it's about 100 calories and it will hold me for hours. Have you tried Progresso's Italian Wedding soup? Very low cal and doesn't taste like it at all. It does have a little pasta in it, enough to make you think you're getting a treat, but.... I find it quite filling. Must be the itty-bitty meatballs. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (T/5A0) 187
Dad said "what is that pile of crap?" Waitress: "it's just french fries covered in cheese and gravy." "Well, whatever it is, I ain't poutine it in my mouth!" Not just cheese. Curds. "I don't care what backwards Middle-Eastern country eats that shit, I ain't eating it!" Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (HMt16) 188
Yeah, lots of household chemicals have been quietly semi-banned in the last 15 years or so.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 05:10 PM (Z8DIA) 189
160 Hi Chi, glad to see you made it through the night
Posted by: chemjeff ------------- Thanks. Uneventful would be the best description. I told him to give me $20, he had 10. Then this morning I gave him 5 back to go get himself a pack of smokes. I actually heard him say "aaaahhhhhhh, man" pretty loudly in the shower this morning. First shower in 5 days, he said. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:10 PM (ENe42) 190
alphabaker, what do you mean by fold-downs?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (q2o38) 191
I have a 5-gallon pail of caustic soda at home. Got it from the rig one day. They pay a few dollars for an 80-pound sack of the stuff. Mine has taken on water, and become a hard lump, but I can auger into it with a drill to make enough powder for my needs.
Not cooking related, but here's a recipe. So you have about 50 pounds of greasy, rusty nuts and bolts and other small parts? Throw them in a cement mixer with half a pound of lye, and a few gallons of water. Turn on the mixer, and let the mixture tumble for an hour or two. Pour off filthy lye water, add fresh water, tumble for a few minutes, pour off and repeat (several times). End result? Fifty pounds of clean hardware with a bright matte steel finish. Put old sheets or towels on a table in the sunshine, and spread the pieces out to dry before they rust from the moisture. Warning! Not for aluminum or brass parts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) 192
I have not had Bloater Saint Hubert, Bubble and Squeak, or Spotted Dick. I swear.
I've had spotted dick, and chip butties too. Other than fish & chips and shepherd's pie that's about the extent of my Brit food experience. We did make an old fashioned boiled-in-a-bag plum duff last winter, using a 17th century recipe! No plums in plum duff (lots of raisins though.) It was very good, extremely rich and very filling. Plus, any cooking method that involves dumping a bunch of ingredients in a bag and plunging it into a vat of boiling death for a couple of hours is A-OK with me! Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:06 PM (HMt16) then there's Blood Pudding one time Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (qCMvj) 193
Margarita, thanks for the tips.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (ntObR) 194
15 I really, really, really hate salad. Unless it's Fuzzy's taco salad which is barely a salad at all. And obviously not eating bread means no sandwiches either.
I'm basically surviving on Chick Fil A's grilled nuggets and Progresso Chicken Corn Chowder in the afternoons. Anyone have any better ideas? Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 04:12 PM (f3Iw2) Take a tip from In n Out and their "protein-style" Double-Double: use a couple of large leaves of lettuce to contain your sandwiches. I've done this a lot and it's great. Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (iMxBJ) 195
"Isn't Drano mostly lye? "
I was in-artful with a bottle of Liquid Drano one time.....spilled it on myself. Turned everything shit-white. It' got some serious shit in it. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 05:12 PM (tv9zS) 196
A strong lye solution is used to clean greasy engine parts. My friend used to buy lye for his soak tank. I think it came in 50# bags. That should make a lot of soap.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:12 PM (mUa7N) 197
The only salad I like is... don't laugh... the all-you-can-eat salad at Olive Garden, with their italian dressing.
Best thing there IMHO. Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 05:12 PM (ntObR) 198
Tried fermentation in the Nav. Results varied...
Posted by: TommyTee at January 31, 2016 05:13 PM (zFXwQ) 199
then there's Blood Pudding
one time Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (qCMvj) --- I had blood sausage in a German restaurant once. VERY rich, too rich for my delicate sensibilities. Germans = Klingons. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:13 PM (jR7Wy) 200
[ . . . ] Throw them in a cement mixer with half a pound of lye, and a few gallons of water. Turn on the mixer, and let the mixture tumble for an hour or two. Pour off filthy lye water, add fresh water, tumble for a few minutes, pour off and repeat (several times). End result? Fifty pounds of clean hardware with a bright matte steel finish. [ . . . ] Warning! Not for aluminum or brass parts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) You know you just re-invented hominy making? Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:14 PM (q2o38) 201
Kale may not be healthy, but there is one food, produced by your nose, that boosts the immune system.
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 31, 2016 05:15 PM (b2qGx) 202
I'm not going to start a hummus food fight, But RK. You're not missing anything. It's so plain. It's like eating nothing.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 31, 2016 05:16 PM (2x3L+) 203
Warning! Not for aluminum or brass parts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) I use "sizzle plates" for cooking. They are just thick aluminum platters (10"x5"), but they heat up really quickly and will brown what you put in them nicely. They also get amazingly cruddy really quickly because of the high temps. I use oven cleaner on them, being very careful to rinse them after a few minutes. Works great. Except when I forget. What a mess. Pitted to the point of uselessness! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 05:16 PM (Zu3d9) 204
We make dandelion wine from time to time.
Stinks like hell when it's fermenting so we leave the vat in the basement during that stage, but it tastes great when it's done. My dandelion wine packs some buzz too. Down to my last bottle, actually. Have to do a new batch this spring. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:16 PM (HMt16) 205
AOP, you beat me to it. My friends tank had a heater in it. He could reuse the solution until it wouldn't work any more. It just took longer as the solution became too greasy. You are correct about the Al.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:16 PM (mUa7N) 206
I have a 5-gallon pail of caustic soda at home. Got it from the rig one day. They pay a few dollars for an 80-pound sack of the stuff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) Damn! I'm going to have to look around some more for deals like that. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 05:17 PM (zc3Db) 207
For books, I recommend Peter Rienhart's "Crust and Crumb."
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (Wfp8t) Thanks for this tip. We were talking about bread/baking books last weekend. I've got Bouchon's, The Bread Baker's Apprentice, Local Breads (which had errors, so only use as reference/ideas), and A Baker's Odyssey (American's immigrant heritage recipes). Those are the main bread ones, but many of my general books have bread recipes in them too. We should compare bagel recipes one weekend. I do the old boil and bake. (you were talking about malt, which reminded me). Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 05:17 PM (qCMvj) Posted by: eman at January 31, 2016 05:17 PM (MQEz6) 209
Thanks for the link ThePrimordialOrderedPair. I will check them out for sure!
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 05:18 PM (vX9lK) 210
Best sort of food ever comes from when folks with different traditions end up having to share a kitchen.
My Saigon-born angel has done more to improve my judeo-slavic cuisine than can be imagined, and I've caught her adding kasha to her bao fillings, and kraut to her beef pho..... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 05:18 PM (lutOX) 211
139 ... CBD, you must have a fancier oven. I can believe that proof setting is a big help. The proofer we got can be set from about 80 degrees to 126 maximum and so far has been steady and reliable.
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 05:18 PM (FvdPb) 212
Warning! Not for aluminum or brass parts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) Definitely not! They used to put aluminum shavings in Drano to activate it. Lye + aluminum = strong exothermic reaction. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:19 PM (RcpcZ) 213
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 05:09 PM (Wfp8t)
You know what they say around here...pics or it didn't happen. In your case, to prove that you are who you say you are, please forward by air freight several of each of your breads and pastries to: 1 AOSHQ Plaza Attn: CharlieBrown'sDildo New York, NY 10001 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 05:20 PM (Zu3d9) 214
I love how cuisine and ethnobotany and explosives mingle in a Horde food thread.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (jR7Wy) 215
212 Warning! Not for aluminum or brass parts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (Z8fuk) Definitely not! They used to put aluminum shavings in Drano to activate it. Lye + aluminum = strong exothermic reaction. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:19 PM (RcpcZ) And hydrogen gas. Posted by: eman at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (MQEz6) 216
Yorkshire pudding is absolutely delicious and all kinds of wonderful. I make that every Christmas Eve for dinner along with a rib roast. It's like a beef flavored muffin. That is probably the only Enlgish food I like outside of Shepherds Pie.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (2x3L+) 217
Lye + aluminum = strong exothermic reaction.
Posted by: Ed Anger ------------ If we only had a chemist around here... Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (ENe42) 218
199 then there's Blood Pudding
one time Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 05:11 PM (qCMvj) --- I had blood sausage in a German restaurant once. VERY rich, too rich for my delicate sensibilities. Germans = Klingons. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:13 PM (jR7Wy) *** Vietnamese eat blood, too. Went with the future Empress to the Chinese butcher's shop and came back with a quart of pig's blood. She made a soup stock, and just sort of dumped it in. It cooked and looked to all the world like some sort of black sausage....too damned rich. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (lutOX) 219
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 05:18 PM (FvdPb)
That's better than my oven, which has one setting. But it works, so I'm not complaining. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (Zu3d9) 220
I had blood sausage in a German restaurant once. VERY rich, too rich for my delicate sensibilities.
Germans = Klingons. ======================== Back in the early '60s, one of my great-aunts smuggled into the US an entire rope of linked Blutwurst made in Essen. A young kid back then, the adults gathered around the kitchen table to watch me eat a link. Oh, was that good, and VERY rich. The real thing, with small pieces of cartilage. Wow. Posted by: mrp at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (JBggj) 221
Found it.
"...after the lye had softened and loosened the hard outer shell of the corn, the frontier wife washed it thoroughly in clear water. She washed it again after she removed the hulls. The hominy softened and swelled and became snowy white when it was boiled. It was good with bear or pork gravy. 'Hog-and-hominy' was the basic food on the farms that followed the first clearings." Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:22 PM (HMt16) 222
Back in the early '60s, one of my great-aunts smuggled into the US an entire rope of linked Blutwurst made in Essen. A young kid back then, the adults gathered around the kitchen table to watch me eat a link. Oh, was that good, and VERY rich. The real thing, with small pieces of cartilage. Wow.
Posted by: mrp at January 31, 2016 05:21 PM (JBggj) --- I should try it again. There's a pub up the street that serves great venison/blueberry sausages and I bet they dabble in blutwurst (ask in the back). Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:25 PM (jR7Wy) Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:25 PM (RcpcZ) 224
AOP, you beat me to it. My friends tank had a heater in it. He could reuse the solution until it wouldn't work any more. It just took longer as the solution became too greasy. You are correct about the Al.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:16 PM (mUa7N) You know something else that is absolute Hell on aluminum, to the extent that nothing containing it can be shipped on airplanes? Mercury, as the metal. Aluminum only exists as a metal of commerce by virtue of the fact that it instantly forms a film of hard and impermeable aluminum oxide on any freshly-cut surface, which stops dead any further oxidation. Now mercury readily forms an alloy (amalgam) with aluminum. And the aluminum in this amalgam can be oxidized by exposure to air, too, but instead of forming a hard protective coating, the oxide forms as white porous filaments, and keeps on forming, and forming, and forming, until the affected area of the aluminum is totally consumed. Use sandpaper or steel wool to rub a droplet of mercury into the bottom of a scrap aluminum utensil, and it will grow huge whiskers of white alumina until the mercury eats right through the metal. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:25 PM (Z8fuk) 225
Weiner noodles look like they're sent from The Matrix.
Posted by: Golfman at January 31, 2016 05:27 PM (goOSw) 226
That frankfurter got thoroughly humiliated. I like it.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 05:27 PM (b2qGx) 227
Milk is nothing but nasty secretions from a cow. Eew!
Posted by: Wapo writer at January 31, 2016 05:28 PM (Moh0M) 228
It's dead, Jim.
Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:33 PM (ENe42) 229
Thanks to the Lebanese side of the family, I grew up with hummus and tzatziki with garlic, olive oil and LOTS of lemon, a tahini molasses dip, etc. Delish!
Family lore has it that when my grandmother made the filling for spinach pies (she used biscuit dough, not filo) she added lemon juice until my Canuck dad couldn't take it. Then she knew it needed just a bit more lemon. Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 05:33 PM (FvdPb) 230
I have some leftover spotted dick, if anyone's interested.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 05:33 PM (b2qGx) 231
Several years ago I found a gold chain that had been lost for a dozen years, fallen into a crack in a concrete basement cubby. The thing was as dull and filthy as could possibly be.
My cousin showed me a trick she said works better than any commercial jewelry cleaner: Line a bowl with aluminum foil, shiny side up, dump in the gold jewelry, sprinkle it with baking soda and pour white vinegar in until the jewelry is covered. Holy smokes, the cleaning action was so powerful you could watch the grime rising right up out of the tight chain links like magic! That chain came out looking like brand new. I don't know if that works for any metals other than gold. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:33 PM (HMt16) 232
>>>I love how cuisine and ethnobotany and explosives mingle in a Horde food thread.<<<
Pro tip: Lye* and sulfuric acid* helps keep Legionnaires disease from killing urban dwellers subject to central HVAC systems. *Unless they've gone green, then they call it something else. Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 05:34 PM (BngQR) 233
That insty video from the bbq shop is fascinating.
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 05:34 PM (x3fqZ) 234
I don't know how that jewelry cleaner would work. Baking soda is a base and vinegar is an acid. I would think you would end up with a neutral solution.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:36 PM (mUa7N) 235
A while back I mentioned I've been receiving Bon Appetit mags for *years* since I quit subscribing.
Occasionally I'll get a *threatening* "If you don't renew your subscription RIGHT NOW you're not getting another copy" notice which promptly goes in the trash. So, yesterday, guess what arrived, once again, in the mail? I flipped through, what has become a NYC hipster publication, saw nothing of interest, and tossed it in the recycling bin. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 05:38 PM (FsuaD) 236
I don't know how that jewelry cleaner would work. Baking soda is a base and vinegar is an acid. I would think you would end up with a neutral solution.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:36 PM (mUa7N) Electrochemistry. You wind up with a neutral salt solution, plus two dissimilar metals. The electric current scours the gold, without harming it. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 05:40 PM (Z8fuk) 237
I don't know if that works for any metals other than gold.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 05:33 PM (HMt16) For tarnished silver, pour boiling water into a glass bowl, stir in a tablespoon of baking soda (and let it foam), put in your tarnished silver, and put in a loosely folded sheet of aluminum foil so it DOESN'T touch the silver. The Aluminum draws off the oxidation to the foil. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 05:41 PM (q2o38) 238
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 05:38 PM (FsuaD)
--- Jane, I've continued to receive mags long after my subscriptions lapsed. Even after I've sent strongly worded letters (stop injecting politics into every effing thing, Vogue! You're just a fashion rag!). I think they need the circulation numbers to get the advertising. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:41 PM (jR7Wy) 239
>>> Pitted to the point of uselessness!
Ever cleaned with Barkeeper's Friend? Available in supermarkets and online. Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 05:42 PM (AfsKp) 240
Jane,
Magazines do that all the time to falsify the subscription numbers, thus boosting their ad revenue. Every once in a while, I'll get a crocheting mag or Cat Fancy out of nowhere. This lasts for six to twelve months, then abruptly stops. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:44 PM (ENe42) 241
Jane, I've continued to receive mags long after my
subscriptions lapsed. Even after I've sent strongly worded letters (stop injecting politics into every effing thing, Vogue! You're just a fashion rag!). I think they need the circulation numbers to get the advertising. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:41 PM (jR7Wy) I'm thinking I've been receiving the mag for 5 or 6 years(?) or longer since I stopped renewing my subscription. Years ago it was my favorite food publication. Now? It's a pathetic shadow of its former self. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 05:45 PM (FsuaD) 242
Lauren, others - like many here, i have been trying low-carb as a way of life (started June last year, on doctor's orders). its worked out great, and i feel i can maintain it for the rest of my life. I have lost 35lbs, down from 180.
As you noted, i cut out flour - no bread, pasta, added sugar, or any grain-type foods. no corn or rice or potatoes. Lots of protein, nuts, cheese. I don't like to count or weigh or deal with complex balances. If i focus exclusively on carbs i can make it a lifestyle. everything else is too complicated.. and i won't do it. fortunately, i love green things - olives, peppers, pickles - so my salads are tolerable. my pizzas have a cheese 'crust' now (so they are more of an 'Italian casserole'). All good so far - my blood sugar way down, other probs melted away as well. Good luck to all who are trying similar efforts. Posted by: goatexchange at January 31, 2016 05:47 PM (Nd4YY) 243
233 That insty video from the bbq shop is fascinating.
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 05:34 PM (x3fqZ) It is. But...raspberry in the rib glaze? Sour citrus in the pulled pork? Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2016 05:47 PM (iMxBJ) 244
Thanks AOP. You must have some chemistry in your background. I do too, but its been too long to be of much use.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 05:49 PM (mUa7N) 245
Every once in a while, I'll get a crocheting mag or Cat Fancy out of nowhere. This lasts for six to twelve months, then abruptly stops.
Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:44 PM (ENe42) --- Out of nowhere. Sure hon. Sure. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 05:53 PM (jR7Wy) 246
Now to slay an urban legend: unless you're using it as a light reflector, it doesn't matter which side of the aluminum foil is exposed. And why is one side of aluminum foil dull? Because foil is rolled to make it thin. But the tension needed to pull it through the rollers will tear a single thickness of foil. So two thicknesses are pulled through the rollers. The side that touches the rollers becomes shiny. The side that touches the other sheet of aluminum comes out dull. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:53 PM (RcpcZ) 247
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alphabaker, what do you mean by fold-downs? Posted by: Kindltot -- A fold-down is de-gassing and stretching the gluten again. Dump the risen dough onto a floured table and fold it in thirds, making the gluten tight and degassing most, but not all of the gas bubbles. Done properly, this helps the gluten development and gives the dough a breath of fresh O2. Pics of my breads are on my website: www.farrellbread.com and on the Farrell Family Bread facebook page. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 05:53 PM (Wfp8t) 248
Hola Putas. I always get started my prison whiskey but never am around when it's ready to drink. Adios muchachos
Posted by: El Chapo at January 31, 2016 05:54 PM (msVAP) 249
AOP - good thing I didn't know that bit about mercury and aluminum when I was a kid. I broke more than enough thermometers accidentally during childhood. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:57 PM (RcpcZ) 250
Leftover content from yesterday's gardening thread:
Anise vs. fennel plus cooking tips for fennel bit.ly/1PrrBon Posted by: KT at January 31, 2016 05:57 PM (qahv/) 251
>>> Every once in a while, I'll get a crocheting mag or Cat Fancy out of nowhere. This lasts for six to twelve months, then abruptly stops.
My wife gets those a lot. "Free gift with purchase." She hates it, but I'm the one dealing with recycling. Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 05:57 PM (AfsKp) 252
Sure hon. Sure.
Posted by: All Hail Eris -------------- Ha! Ok, ok. So maybe they got my mailing address from I'malonelyspinster dot com... Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 05:58 PM (ENe42) 253
Right now I'm making Poulet au Vinaigre: Chicken with Vinegar. Cook the chicken in oil and butter with some garlic cloves, then remove and put 6 tbs vinegar and some tarragon into the pan, cook down, add about half a cup of wine and 2 chopped tomatoes, cook all that down, and finish with cream. Pour it over the chicken you already cooked.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 31, 2016 05:58 PM (E0naa) 254
I broke more than enough thermometers accidentally during childhood.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 05:57 PM (RcpcZ) And yet you lived. Amazing. *remembering all the times in elementary school our teachers let us pass around mercury* Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 05:59 PM (FsuaD) Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 06:00 PM (t2KH5) 256
@246 but why dpes touching another sheet of aluminum make it dull? Or do the rollers have a shining property?
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 06:01 PM (b2qGx) 257
In the olden days some sort of Mercury amalgam was used as a tooth filling. It hasn't killed me yet.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 06:02 PM (mUa7N) 258
We went with fwiends for Fwench food last night to a hot new place based out of Charleston, SC.
I love mussels, and ordered one of their versions. I have to say, I make better. Tres disappointing. Everything else was good, however. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:02 PM (FsuaD) 259
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In the olden days some sort of Mercury amalgam was used as a tooth filling. It hasn't killed me yet. Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 06:02 PM (mUa7N) Same here. I've heard it's more dangerous to have them removed and replaced with whateverthehell they're using now. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:04 PM (FsuaD) 260
What kind of vinegar, Tri? That sounds really good.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 06:04 PM (jR7Wy) 261
I flipped through, what has become a NYC hipster publication, saw nothing of interest, and tossed it in the recycling bin.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 05:38 PM (FsuaD) I never got into buying recipe/food magazines. I've never tried it. My mother and one of my sisters do. Not bon appetite, some other one. They like it, but I couldn't handle cutting out the recipes or photocopying the ones I like. I like the cookbooks, that highlight the best of the best, or annuals. No hipster fluff, just recipes. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:06 PM (qCMvj) 262
Jane D'oh, I don't think you are that old.
Posted by: Ronster at January 31, 2016 06:06 PM (mUa7N) 263
We went with fwiends for Fwench food last night to a hot new place based out of Charleston, SC.
I love mussels, and ordered one of their versions. I have to say, I make better. Tres disappointing. Everything else was good, however. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:02 PM (FsuaD) which place? I'm always in Charleston... Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:07 PM (qCMvj) 264
I was going to watch Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals but I've changed my mind.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:07 PM (iQIUe) 265
Just made another batch of my steak sauce, with *lots* of ground-up anchovies, which always seem to offset the sweetness of it with a little extra gravitas.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:08 PM (ntObR) 266
Ace is on twitter. Maybe he'll come visit us.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:09 PM (iQIUe) 267
Pics of my breads are on my website: www.farrellbread.com and on the Farrell Family Bread facebook page.
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 05:53 PM (Wfp8t) all this talk of bread, lol no bread for me for a month or so Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:09 PM (qCMvj) 268
Thanks, alphabaker.
It took me 20 years to make a decent loaf of bread. What finally did it was actually reading some baking books that explained why I was supposed to do what I was doing. Until then I was doing things and then trying to figure out what it was that made it different. I will look into adding extra malt to the dough. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 06:10 PM (q2o38) 269
which place? I'm always in Charleston... Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:07 PM (qCMvj) 39 Rue de Jean. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:10 PM (FsuaD) 270
@246 but why dpes touching another sheet of aluminum make it dull? Or do the rollers have a shining property? Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 06:01 PM (b2qGx) The rollers are so smooth they have a mirror finish. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 06:11 PM (RcpcZ) 271
So Chi identifies as female? Quelle surprise.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 06:12 PM (b2qGx) 272
Here's a crock pot favorite I just made yesterday for neighborhood get together. I lost the recipe, but it doesn't require precision.
1 Large pork shoulder roast 1 large yellow onion 1 spicy pepper (of your choosing, if desired) garlic ground Mexican oregano (must be GROUND not leafy) kosher salt freshly ground pepper Trim as much fat off roast as you can (you will be able to get rid of more fat & gristly bits after cooking). Cut into large chunks (2", give or take). Drizzle with some oil, then add about 1 T oregano (depending on how much pork), some kosher salt, and ground pepper. You can be generous with the salt, but if you oversalt, you're screwed. You can always taste the juices after it's cooked for while and meat is nowhere near raw. Coarsely chop onion and (seeded) pepper - you won't be eating these. They are just to add flavor to the meat. Put meat and veg in crock pot and cook on low for a couple hrs. I don't have an exact time, but you can pull a piece out and test it for doneness. When it is done, it won't be "fall apart" , but the chunks will be moist and tender. Scoop chunks out with slotted spoon, and pour meat juices (usually around a cup or two) into a separate pan. This is an important step: You want to get the fat separated from the juices by cooling it. If it's cold enough, I set it outside for 10-15 min then put in freezer (U don't want to heat up your freezer too much by putting hot pan in there). As it gets cold, meat fat will solidify on top, you can scrape off and discard. Juice will be much less greasy and very delicious. While juices are cooling. You can pull off some of the fat & gristly bits from the meat and break into smaller chunks. It won't so fall apart that it's like shredded, but the meat will be moist and tender. Put meat and juices back in crockpot. If your juices got partially frozen, you may want to heat back up before you put in crockpot to save time. This makes fantastic tacos - I use both flour and (my fave) corn tortillas from the Mexican grocery. I heat tortillas on a griddle. Corn tortillas should be brushed with oil on both sides and lightly salted. Top with guacamole and your other favorite taco fixin's Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 31, 2016 06:12 PM (dBmVV) 273
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We went with fwiends for Fwench food last night to a hot new place based out of Charleston, SC. I love mussels, and ordered one of their versions. I have to say, I make better. Tres disappointing. Everything else was good, however. Posted by: Jane D'oh __You get bravery or foolhardy points for ordering mussels in a restaurant. They typically sit in a bus tub floating in a stew of their own excrement and the foulness of their dead brethren. I refuse to eat any i haven't cleaned and inspected personally. I misspent 5 youthful years in a seafood restaurant. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:12 PM (Wfp8t) 274
Husband and I are out to grab an early dinner. He and son spent the day up in son's old room cleaning it out of crap he doesn't want in his place.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:12 PM (FsuaD) 275
qdpsteve, Do you like the salted, smoked or butter-cured gravitas? Oh, and I haven't much liked mussels that I've had. They tasted like low tide. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 06:13 PM (q2o38) 276
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:12 PM (Wfp8t)
That was my job as a kid in my mom's kitchen....pulling the beards and checking whether each mussel was alive. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 06:15 PM (Zu3d9) 277
Octoweiners?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at January 31, 2016 06:16 PM (rwI+c) 278
Kindltot, I like mussels... but 've noticed whenever I have mussels my gout gets aggravated. So when I go to Ritters for my bouillebaise, I have to throw them out. :-(
Seriously, don't know what it is, guess it's the Italian in me. But I've just found garlic and anchovies, used in just the right amounts in a dish or a sauce, are *magic.* :-) Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:16 PM (ntObR) 279
39 Rue de Jean.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2016 06:10 PM (FsuaD) I don't believe I've been there. Thanks. Tripadvisor gives "okay" reviews. 4 out of 5 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:16 PM (qCMvj) 280
I got a mystery Food Network magazine last week. No clue why. I was not particularly impressed.
But back to fermentation: Sourdough and other products of long fermentation tend to give me migraines. That "friendship cake" where people send a starter to the next person in line is a killer. Posted by: KT at January 31, 2016 06:16 PM (qahv/) 281
Mussels have to be fresh, as in "pick them up off the beach fresh" or else they just aren't the same. Hood Canal, Whidbey Island, yes!
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 31, 2016 06:19 PM (/WPPJ) 282
I've heard and read for years that ginger and garlic work well together also. Called "kundalini' cuisine.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:19 PM (ntObR) 283
>>>Pics of my breads are on my website: www.farrellbread.com and on the Farrell Family Bread facebook page.<<<
Ah, yes. Baking is a lifelong commitment to a black art that few master, much like the art of making steel. Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 06:20 PM (BngQR) 284
Posted by: qdpsteve
I use fresh ginger and garlic to make my own curries. Great stuff but my kids won't touch it with a ten foot pole. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:20 PM (Wfp8t) 285
I've started making bread again and am having fun experimenting- adding oatmeal or flax and varying the amounts of egg and sugar. Next trick is to try a challah bread. I've had modest success (frieinds and family eat it and tell me it's good) but I've not found a recipe I really like yet. Nothing as nice as the smell of fresh baked bread.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 31, 2016 06:21 PM (Hsow7) 286
alpha, oh yeah. I was a fussy eater as a kid too.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:21 PM (ntObR) 287
Since we're now over 200 posts, can I got OT?
Bumper sticker enthusiasm from a conservative perspective and in Cambridge, MA no less, Which HQ moron drives this car? http://preview.tinyurl.com/zn969h3 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 31, 2016 06:22 PM (w4NZ8) 288
Posted by: Fritz
Steel. Did I mention I'm a knife nut too? Don't make my own, but I love owning, using and sharpening knives with great steel. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:22 PM (Wfp8t) 289
I misspent 5 youthful years in a seafood restaurant.
Posted by: alphabaker ------------- Meh. I grew up and live right where the Chesapeake Bay meets the Atlantic. Great seafood restaurants are a dime a dozen. Just don't go to the tourist traps & you're good to go. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 06:22 PM (ENe42) 290
need to call my mother eat dinner then get back into one of my fun books eat, drink and be merry! Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 31, 2016 06:22 PM (qCMvj) 291
Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 06:20 PM (BngQR)
Yes. Bakers are in league with the devil. I can make food that rivals the best chefs in the world. That's not bragging, just attention to detail, good ingredients, and way more time than the pros take. But bakers? There is a reason one loaf of great bread costs so much. They give the devil his due. And don't get me started on pastry chefs! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 06:23 PM (Zu3d9) 292
alphabaker, oh yeah. Just got me a nice chef's knife and a cleaver from Amazon.
Unfortunately when I first got them I made the mistake of running down the street waving them around yelling "I have new knives!! I have new knives!!!" :-P Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:24 PM (ntObR) 293
If all you ate was kale, you would become sick.
It may be apocryphal but I heard a story about two roommates, fresh out of college, who lived on pizza for a year, and were then diagnosed with scurvy. Or maybe it was rickets. Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 31, 2016 06:24 PM (Hsow7) 294
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnVs1IL0fL8
Posted by: Kundalini, what wants his hand back at January 31, 2016 06:26 PM (AfsKp) 295
Yes.
Bakers are in league with the devil. I can make food that rivals the best chefs in the world. That's not bragging, just attention to detail, good ingredients, and way more time than the pros take. But bakers? There is a reason one loaf of great bread costs so much. They give the devil his due. And don't get me started on pastry chefs! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ---- Pastry chef's are the anal-retentive neurosurgeons of the culinary world. Surpassed only by chocolatiers. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:27 PM (Wfp8t) 296
Remember Phil Hartman as "The Anal-Retentive Chef" on SNL back in the day? Funny stuff.
http://tinyurl.com/nr5udpf Posted by: qdpsteve at January 31, 2016 06:30 PM (ntObR) 297
First summer job in high school was at Joe diMaggio's Italian restaurant. I started as a dishwasher and bus boy and advanced to cook. Forty years later I probably still need to atone for the culinary sins I committed.
It took me a year before I could eat spaghetti again. Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 31, 2016 06:31 PM (Hsow7) 298
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:27 PM (Wfp8t)
I make pretty good caramels, and will occasionally coat them with chocolate. It sounds like such a simple process, yet each time I do it it comes out differently. Tempering chocolate is one thing, but then the actual coating is problematic, and messy. Yes, that is chocolate in my hair, and on my socks, and oh look! It's on the ceiling too! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2016 06:31 PM (Zu3d9) 299
The "healthy" food thing has long bugged me, and occasionally I'll push back, depending on the person. Same thing with weight-loss. Yes, yes, there *are* a few wrinkles to it, and there are special situations, but generally (generally) a healthy diet just means an adequate one, and weight equilibrium is just a function of calories (fuel) in, calories out (burning fuel). Ceteris paribus. Yet so many people I know have/still do go to all sorts of efforts to do a particular diet, with very dubious to zero reason to think we have that much control over outcomes. And this was all before the rather spectacular medical/nutritional Emily Litella moments with sodium and cholesterol. A doctor friend was hugely entertained by those, but I find most people still don't know much about it. Remember, the "low information" people who matter most, who do the most damage, are the "educated" ones. Speaking of recipes, I need to go process 30 carbine brass, but will return to note some of the recipes here. Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 06:33 PM (QDnY+) 300
OT: Nothing more entertaining then watching the Intellectual Powerhouses of ESPN discuss race. Saying they were stupid would be charitable.
Back on topic, sort of. Needed a new crockpot. Went to Target and Walmart and they had crockpots but not what I was looking for. There is a reason Amazon is so popular. I should receive the new crockpot tomorrow. Yeah!! I see pork roasts and potato's in my future!! Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2016 06:34 PM (NGd+i) 301
Ah, yes. Baking is a lifelong commitment to a black art that few master, much like the art of making steel.
Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2016 06:20 PM (BngQR) It is much easier to eat your mistakes, though. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 06:35 PM (q2o38) 302
Next trick is to try a challah bread. I've had modest success (frieinds and family eat it and tell me it's good) but I've not found a recipe I really like yet. Nothing as nice as the smell of fresh baked bread.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 31, 2016 06:21 PM (Hsow7) I make challahs for our Shabbat dinners. I like them. I go pretty heavy on the vanilla and the salt. ANd you;re right, there's nothing like the smell of fresh baked bread ... except maybe percolating coffee. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 06:36 PM (zc3Db) 303
Nothing more entertaining then watching the Intellectual Powerhouses of ESPN discuss race.
I'd rather listen to my toenails grow. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 31, 2016 06:37 PM (dBmVV) 304
I love a good loaf of bread but have never had much luck. My go-to (actually my "only") recipe is a super-simple, no-knead, crusty, rustic bread. Got the recipe from the Sullivan Street Bakery in NY.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 31, 2016 06:38 PM (E6RIJ) 305
Joo Toast is delicious! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:38 PM (iQIUe) 306
OT:
OMG: NAACP leader uses F-word to apologize for using T-word after N-word meeting http://preview.tinyurl.com/gudkoyd Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 06:39 PM (oVJmc) 307
Bumper sticker enthusiasm from a conservative perspective and in Cambridge, MA no less, Which HQ moron drives this car?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zn969h3 Every sticker is in such good shape that I think it's a photoshop. Enjoyed reading them, though! "A million people attended the Inauguration and only fourteen missed work" Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2016 06:41 PM (+c55T) 308
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Joo Toast is delicious! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:38 PM (iQIUe) It's the blood of Palestinian children that makes it taste soooo gooood! Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 06:44 PM (kpqmD) 309
Speaking of yeast, I still have to go out tonight to get some special yeast. It's called Saccharomyces boulardii. It's a probiotic that, unlike other gut flora, isn't killed by antibiotics. Hopefully my intestines will have something good growing in them before I'm off the antibiotics I'm taking. It is supposed to make the return of Clostridium difficile less likely. Unfortunately, C. diff has a 20 percent re-infection rate and I don't want that happening. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 06:44 PM (RcpcZ) 310
>>You get bravery or foolhardy points for ordering mussels in a restaurant. They typically sit in a bus tub floating in a stew of their own excrement and the foulness of their dead brethren. I refuse to eat any i haven't cleaned and inspected personally.
I used to work with a guy who thought he could eat anything and he would invariably find the most repellent thing on the menu. I was traveling with him in Holland once during this big mussel festival. He got this big mussel special dinner which was served with a small amount of the broth it was cooked in, you spooned them out and ate them. All good until he decided to take a big slurp of the broth like an idiot. That was about the worst case of food poisoning I've ever seen. Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 06:45 PM (/tuJf) 311
So, last week, I mentioned that I found Henry's Hard Soda. Alcoholic sodas, natch.
I tried the ginger ale, which was a little sweet, but very good. Right now, I am sampling an Orange soda - these things will be dangerous once summer rolls around... Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 06:45 PM (ENe42) 312
It's the blood of Palestinian children that makes it taste soooo gooood!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 06:44 PM (kpqmD) ====== Nah, it's the maple syrup. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:47 PM (iQIUe) 313
Seriously, day old challah makes excellent french toast. Try it! Now! I insist! Or Else! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:48 PM (iQIUe) 314
No rain. No wind. But cold.....
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:48 PM (iQIUe) 315
From Insty-
Korean girls try American BBQ for the first time: http://www.wideopencountry.com/watch-koreans-try- american-barbecue-first-time/ (remove extra space) Cute and fun. Though the BBQ looks to be a bit Californicated. Posted by: naturalfake at January 31, 2016 06:48 PM (KUa85) 316
Right now, I am sampling an Orange soda
I saw a commercial for it the first time today. It's on my to-try list. Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2016 06:49 PM (GgxVX) 317
Good luck Ed Anger! My daughter had C.difficile last year . Poor girl! I wouldn't wish that on just about anyone. I hope that probiotic works well for you.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 06:50 PM (vX9lK) 318
>>I saw a commercial for it the first time today. It's on my to-try list.
Doesn't seem to be available in my area. Posted by: Aviator at January 31, 2016 06:51 PM (c7vUv) 319
Bumper sticker enthusiasm from a conservative perspective and in Cambridge, MA no less, Which HQ moron drives this car? http://preview.tinyurl.com/zn969h3
Posted by: FenelonSpoke That guy is brave. Liberals tend to be lawless swine, which is why they are attracted to liberal principles in the first place. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets vandalized, despite the current state of things. Posted by: angela urkel at January 31, 2016 06:52 PM (b2qGx) 320
Chi, those hard sodas are of the Devil. Too good.
Way, way back when I was TAD to South Korea they had an alcoholic concoction called Oscar - Peach Oscar and Grape Oscar. It tasted like soda pop but half a bottle and you (well, me) were lit. I need to investigate the Korean markets around here. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 06:53 PM (jR7Wy) 321
So, Iowa is on Monday and NH on 2/9. What are the plans for tomorrow? This place seems way to quiet. Moron blood will flow... Veins will pop... Threats made... Commenters banned... And, we will do it all over again in a week. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:54 PM (iQIUe) 322
Seriously, day old challah makes excellent french toast. Try it! Now! I insist! Or Else!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! -- This is a Saturday morning staple at our house. Without it the kids would engineer a mutiny. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 06:55 PM (Wfp8t) 323
Evening all
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2016 06:55 PM (DUoqb) 324
I saw a commercial for it the first time today. It's on my to-try list. Posted by: no good deed --------- Really? A commercial? I had never heard of it, just found it at the grocery store by chance. A little sweet for me, but I can see knocking back a six pack without realizing it on a hot summer day. Good stuff. You won't be disappointed. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 06:55 PM (ENe42) 325
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Joo Toast is delicious! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:38 PM (iQIUe) It's the blood of Palestinian children that makes it taste soooo gooood! Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 06:44 PM (kpqmD) Pfft! Shiksa adolescent virgin tampon juice. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 06:56 PM (zLP1L) 326
Seriously, day old challah makes excellent french toast. Try it! Now! I insist! Or Else!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:48 PM ~~~~ Agreed. And you should try it with caramel sauce (the kind they use for ice cream) instead of maple syrup. It is great! Posted by: IrishEi at January 31, 2016 06:58 PM (E6RIJ) 327
Good luck Ed Anger! My daughter had C.difficile last year . Poor girl! I wouldn't wish that on just about anyone. I hope that probiotic works well for you.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 06:50 PM (vX9lK) ***** I had that from Clindamycin about 5 years ago. Lost 20 lbs. I needed to, and 30 that I didn't. Search for the treatment, I will not describe it here. Posted by: Tim in GA at January 31, 2016 06:59 PM (X+kq/) 328
>>> Shiksa adolescent virgin tampon juice.
Blonde shiksas, harvested in the light of the full moon? Otherwise it doesn't taste right. Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 07:00 PM (AfsKp) 329
Late to the Thea, but:
Wife Unit initiated her first ever sour dough starter (scratch) this week. Progressing nicely. And I'm doing sesame crusted tuna with th sous vide this evening. Posted by: speedster1 at January 31, 2016 07:00 PM (vUcdz) 330
AHE ,
are you a tea drinker? Sometimes, if I'm at home during the day & working in the yard or garage, I'll have a couple of cans of Twisted Tea. That stuff can sneak up on you like a crazy ex-girlfriend. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 07:02 PM (ENe42) 331
Korean girls try American BBQ for the first time:
I knew a guy from Louisiana that called pork ribs "pigsicles" After watching that I want pigsicles too. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 07:02 PM (q2o38) 332
Late to this thread, but a question for PrimordialOrderedPair re: soap making:
Do you live in a hard- or soft-water area? I grew up on Long Island (soft water) and my parents made soap for years. Good everyday stuff, and I even used it to wash the dishes. Then I took some back to my then-home (Toronto, hard water) and found it was useless. It produced nothing but a gray scum, and left the dishes dirtier than before. Now I'm in Chicago (equally hard water) and haven't tried it since. Posted by: Annalucia at January 31, 2016 07:02 PM (a5bF3) 333
"Seriously, day old challah makes excellent french toast. Try it! Now! I insist! Or Else! "
Agreed! Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 07:04 PM (3DIzJ) 334
330 AHE ,
are you a tea drinker? Sometimes, if I'm at home during the day & working in the yard or garage, I'll have a couple of cans of Twisted Tea. That stuff can sneak up on you like a crazy ex-girlfriend. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 07:02 PM (ENe42) --- I always leave the head of a bunny in the mailbox as a calling card before B&E. But no, I'll try the Twisted Tea. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 31, 2016 07:07 PM (jR7Wy) 335
Lauren,
I like portuguese sweet bread for French toast. Hawaiian bread is portuguese sweet bread. Posted by: CaliGirl at January 31, 2016 07:07 PM (egOGm) 336
But no, I'll try the Twisted Tea.
Posted by: All Hail Eris ---------------- Go for the Half & Half variety if you have a choice. Basically an Arnie Palmer. Less sweet. Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 07:12 PM (ENe42) 337
So sorry Tim in GA. Probably not the best to discuss on the food thread! I can imagine though. She was a senior in high school then. Just got her wisdom teeth out. Not easy to deal with as a student. Probiotics help a great deal.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 07:12 PM (vX9lK) 338
So sorry Tim in GA. Probably not the best to discuss on the food thread!
**** Yeah, I realized after hitting post that I may have made a tactical error. Posted by: Tim in GA at January 31, 2016 07:16 PM (X+kq/) 339
Posted by: Annalucia at January 31, 2016 07:02 PM (a5bF3)
I live outside of Philly. It's regular water .. so I guess it's called "soft". I don't know much about hard water but coconut oil makes soap that will lather in any water and cleans really well. Pure coconut oil soap will even lather in salt water, though it's too harsh (strips all the oils right off) to use as regular soap (I use it for dish soap). Other than that I don't have much experience with having to live with hard water so I couldn't say much. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 07:20 PM (zc3Db) 340
Tim, luckily the thread is slow now! I hope you are recovered now. My daughter seems to be, but we will be extra cautious if she has to be on antibiotics anytime soon.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 07:21 PM (vX9lK) 341
I live outside of Philly. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 07:20 PM (zc3Db) ============== So, are you going to riot when the DNC comes to town? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 07:24 PM (iQIUe) 342
Maine Root Mandarin Orange Soda, best I've ever had . I hardly cook anything without booze in it. Pork medallions in white peach liquor, pork chops in Tequila, lime and aguave nectar. Chicken in chardonnay. Queso Flamedo with Triple Sec.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 31, 2016 07:24 PM (jEM/d) 343
Our old house had water so hard you would get bruised showering. Water softener cured that, although the first time the wife did laundry she used the same amount of soap she was accustomed to. Didn't know a washer could MAKE that much suds. Posted by: irongrampa at January 31, 2016 07:24 PM (P/8aq) 344
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 31, 2016 07:20 PM (zc3Db)
========= Maybe, you can be the AoShq, political reporter. Ace will give you your own press pass. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 07:25 PM (iQIUe) 345
338 So sorry Tim in GA. Probably not the best to discuss on the food thread! It's a yeast thread, so feel free to discuss all of your experiences with yeast. Or maybe not. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 31, 2016 07:28 PM (RcpcZ) 346
Tim, luckily the thread is slow now! I hope you are recovered now. My daughter seems to be, but we will be extra cautious if she has to be on antibiotics anytime soon.
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 07:21 PM (vX9lK) **** Doing great now, thank you. Have since gained back the 30, but fortunately not that extra 20. Posted by: Tim in GA at January 31, 2016 07:29 PM (X+kq/) 347
Comin for you biotchez any moment now!
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Comin for you biotchez any moment now! Posted by: Febuary at January 31, 2016 07:29 PM (b2qGx) ------Yeah, about that. Forecasting 12 to 18 inches in the Denver metro area by tomorrow night. Posted by: Old Blue at January 31, 2016 07:31 PM (9iR5/) Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 07:31 PM (f3Iw2) 350
Comin for you biotchez any moment now!
Posted by: February Pfft, with my massive endowment? Bring it. Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2016 07:32 PM (+c55T) 351
Time to roast the asparagus. Take care Horde!
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 07:34 PM (vX9lK) 352
351 Time to roast the asparagus. Take care Horde!
Posted by: SnowyBits at January 31, 2016 07:34 PM (vX9lK) Smelly pee and gout. Great. But I really like it, though. The asparagus I mean. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 07:36 PM (zLP1L) 353
Re: challah
My better. Half makes challah for Shabbat every week, to rave reviews. Pretty sure I could convince her to share her secrets/recipe if you'd like. Posted by: speedster1 at January 31, 2016 07:38 PM (vUcdz) 354
Smelly pee and gout. Great. But I really like it, though.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 07:36 PM Same here. It's sterile & I like the taste. Posted by: Patches O'Houlihan at January 31, 2016 07:41 PM (7qAYi) Posted by: Pres O'dogeater at January 31, 2016 07:42 PM (Amtf1) 356
74 I made a big batch of crock pot beef broth and now it has the beef fat on the top. What else can I use the fat for?
Greasing the patches on your musket balls. Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 07:43 PM (Amtf1) Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 07:45 PM (kTF2Z) 358
Please share speedser1.
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 07:45 PM (MtMEd) 359
325 308 305
Joo Toast is delicious! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 06:38 PM (iQIUe) It's the blood of Palestinian children that makes it taste soooo gooood! Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 06:44 PM (kpqmD) Pfft! Shiksa adolescent virgin tampon juice. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 06:56 PM (zLP1L) That's...oddly specific. Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 07:45 PM (kpqmD) 360
The best mussels I ever had were at the Café Du Monde the old section of Quebec City. Mussels fresh from the river, served with a bagette warm from the oven and locally produced butter. That was twenty years ago and the restaurant has changed. The only mussels I trust now are the ones I steam myself.
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 07:46 PM (FvdPb) 361
Bought the book on fermentation, based on your comments. Thanks! I've messed with fermentation, beer-making, and even 'shine distillation - but never read up on fermentation in-depth.
BTW: those spaghetti-dogs are so totally fucking weird that I have got to try them. Besides ... "some assembly required" always hooks me. Kinda like food tinker-toys. LOL Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at January 31, 2016 07:46 PM (RK1ZH) 362
You can't spell challah without "allah".
Posted by: Clockboy at January 31, 2016 07:47 PM (b2qGx) 363
After four hours, I think the pizza dough is ready, like this thread.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2016 07:47 PM (jJRIy) 364
alphabaker, (if you are still up) I was looking at your business website. You talk about traditional baking. One of the things I was doing to brush up on my bread was to look at how other breads are made. The one that really impressed me was the Pompeian baking.
Since it was industrial baking, fewest amount of manipulation was essential, the barm/starter was taken once a year from fresh pressed grapes, and it did interest me that they may have been twice baking bread as well. All this was done in beehive ovens, too. It took a friend of mine who spent a good time in Italy to point out that baking twice was perfectly normal for some breads there. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 07:49 PM (q2o38) 365
Who cares about hummus. What in hell are 'garlic teeth'?
Posted by: Pres O'dogeater at January 31, 2016 07:42 PM (Amtf1) Linguistic issue. When I was raised my family called the whole garlic head a "clove" and we called the individual segment a "tooth". I learned this is confusing on my part when a hummus recipe called for 2-3 cloves of garlic, and thinking that meant the whole head, I started shucking and peeling and tossing garlic into the running blender. At about the 8th or so I thought I should try a taste to see if it was garlicky enough . . . Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 07:53 PM (q2o38) 366
Been busy and missed this thread but I live challah!!! If I buy it I just eat bread and butter for a week.
Posted by: Lea at January 31, 2016 07:54 PM (vmMMi) 367
If any of you are experts in Sharia: if I get drunk from fermented pizza dough, does that violate the Qu'ran?
Posted by: Clockboy at January 31, 2016 07:55 PM (b2qGx) 368
Baked/Roasted garlic is great. You just squeeze out of its skin onto fresh bread like it is butter.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 07:56 PM (iQIUe) 369
Kindltot
The only time i bake bread twice is when I want a really crusty bread for dinner. Then I put a whole loaf into a 400 deg oven for 25 minutes or so. The crust is phenomenal, and the interior stays moist. My favorite way to eat bread. Well, there's Russian Black bread too. You take some old rye bread and slice it burn it, then soak it and use it in the new dough. That might qualify. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 07:56 PM (Wfp8t) Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 07:57 PM (Amtf1) 371
Challah secrets? Use egg yolks and not whole eggs. But don't tell anyone.
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 07:57 PM (Wfp8t) 372
371 Ohh, nice tip. More whites for the angel food cake.
*buffs nails* Which turned out fantastic last weekend. Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 08:02 PM (MtMEd) 373
Baked/Roasted garlic is great. You just squeeze out of its skin onto fresh bread like it is butter.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! Tastes just like Barbra Streisand! Posted by: Linda Richman at January 31, 2016 08:04 PM (b2qGx) 374
359 That's...oddly specific.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 31, 2016 07:45 PM (kpqmD) Ancient Elder of Zion secret . . . Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 08:06 PM (zLP1L) 375
Lauren,
My Paleo Bolognase sauce with spaghetti squash. Or spinach & tomato sautéed with garlic and scrambled eggs. A smoothie made with 1/2 avocado, 8 strawberries, 1/2 green apple, a huge handful of power greens, 6 oz. cold brewed coffee, 6 oz homemade almond milk and 2 tablespoons cocoa powder or protein powder. that usually keeps me fully through half the day. I freeze all the fruit ahead. Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 31, 2016 08:08 PM (xVgrA) 376
367 - pizza dough is good nothing in the qu'ran against it, also you can beat your wife for not giving it up, kill your daughter for giving it up, can't draw Mohammed that would be bad.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 08:10 PM (hk3Fb) 377
Dad would make pineapple upside cake from time to time for the crew he worked for. The Foreman would drink the leftover juice. (#10 can's).
One day dad made something that called for just yolk, and left those egg whites in a cup for the Foreman. Yep, it looked like that stuff running down his chin! Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 31, 2016 08:13 PM (Amtf1) 378
Well that's all I've got
Good night horde. Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 08:14 PM (hk3Fb) 379
Never trust a thin cook
"I don't like food, I love it; and if I don't love it, I don't swallow" -- Anton Ego, "Ratatouille Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2016 08:14 PM (6FqZa) Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 08:14 PM (3DIzJ) 381
Vienna (South Carolina pronunciation- vy-ee-nah) sausages! Is there anything they can't do?
Posted by: Eromero at January 31, 2016 08:15 PM (zLDYs) 382
Enjoying a well-earned beer. Traced some old wires in the ceiling of the bedroom closet, and found one the brought power to the first of two octagon boxes in the ceiling. And one that linked the two. Spliced into the feed wire (spliced inside a box, of course), and cut the wire I'd previously run to supply the bathroom light and fan. Put in another octagon box in the attic, and tied the closet ceiling lights to the feed for the bathroom light, buttoned up the box. Turned the breaker back on, no drama. Closed up the attic, and put the ladder away.
Came inside, and carefully (since dealing with now-live wires) connected pull-chain sockets to the wires in the ceiling boxes, and screwed the sockets up to the boxes. Woo-Hoo! It works. Now I have two nice bright ceiling lights in the closet, and the bathroom light and fan work as before. Now I don't have use a flashlight, or plug in a trouble-light to find stuff in the closet. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 08:16 PM (Z8fuk) 383
Well, there's Russian Black bread too. You take some
old rye bread and slice it burn it, then soak it and use it in the new dough. That might qualify. Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 07:56 PM (Wfp8t) That's the secret. I knew the traditional Black Rye bread did not have cocoa in it. All the recipes I could find have had cocoa in them. One of the loaves recovered from Pompeii is very sharply defined, instead of rounded, and has a seal impression in it. From what I know about raising dough, it didn't raise like that unless it was non-raised paste, baked like a brick. (image at the British Museum) So I figured it was baked initially in a form that was segmented like an 8-pointed crown with a seal in it in the last bit of heat of the night's baking in one of the beehive ovens, and the next morning would be tipped out of the form and re-baked points upward. It would be conserving of the last bit of useful heat from the oven in the at the end of baking, and if the high initial heat from just starting the oven in the morning makes it extra crispy, it would be a reason to have the seal to show it was special, and probably priced to match. Then again it could have been a "long shelf-life" bread like hardtack, that was baked the identical way. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:16 PM (q2o38) 384
Who will help me bake my bread?
Posted by: Little red hen at January 31, 2016 08:19 PM (FkBIv) 385
RE the pot roast...try lamb shanks.
Basically the same recipe for 4 lamb shanks but add one can of tomato soup. The two cans of contrasting soup textures make it look very hinky...just carry on. You will be gnawing the lamb bones and licking your fingers...this is sooo good and stupid easy. [Yes, I've made it with scratch made mushroom and tomato soup...it's better with the condensed canned soup. Go figger.] Posted by: Shanks for the memory at January 31, 2016 08:20 PM (9HNfr) 386
Then again it could have been a "long shelf-life" bread like hardtack, that was baked the identical way.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:16 PM (q2o3 Or replacement tires for chariot wheels? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 08:20 PM (Z8fuk) 387
Yorkshire pudding rocks.
Posted by: Tuna at January 31, 2016 08:21 PM (JSovD) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:22 PM (iQIUe) 389
and if I don't love it, I don't swallow
That's what I tell Reggie, to deter him from eating asparagus. Posted by: Barack Obama at January 31, 2016 08:22 PM (b2qGx) 390
If I understand you correctly, it could be baked all the way in a terra-cotta mold. Egyptian breads were baked in pots, which works fine if you pre-heat the lid.
Posted by: alphabaker at January 31, 2016 08:22 PM (Wfp8t) 391
Chariot wheels should not shatter like firebrick when you bang them on the table.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:23 PM (q2o38) 392
Their aim is improving. Wonder if the comparisons with B'more have shamed them into upping their game.
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 31, 2016 08:24 PM (b2qGx) 393
Pizza dough doesn't need to be complicated. Unless you want deep dish loaf-o'-bread pizza, don't bother with the rising stuff anyway. The purpose of the crust is a delivery system for the good stuff, so it just needs to taste okay and be easy to work with.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2016 08:24 PM (39g3+) 394
We've been abandoned! Some times I feel like a moronless child... Some times I feel like a moronless child... Some times I feel like a moronless child... Long way from home. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:26 PM (iQIUe) 395
Lauren,
I'm trying to go Paleo, it's a process. Trying to convert some of my recipes over. It's the two diets that's hard since everyone else is eating normal stuff. I'm trying to cut down on the nuts since I used them as a bridge to help transition. The good news is Im going to be getting a bunch of chicken this spring. I have a friend with land that is willing to do a co-op of sorts with me. I'll buy the chickens and feed and they will provide the coop, free-range area, cleaning and collecting eggs. Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 31, 2016 08:27 PM (xVgrA) 396
Who will help me bake my bread?
Posted by: Little red hen Liz? Don't bother with baking. Take this EBT card and get a loaf of Wonder. Posted by: Barack Obama at January 31, 2016 08:28 PM (b2qGx) 397
hi all from BWW
well I was going to go see 13 hours, but I left late and so I decided to go drink beer instead Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 08:28 PM (WKc9e) 398
When twice-baked biscuit was introduced as a ration bread in the Crusades, the chroniclers wrote home about it as the wonder of the age. I did not know the Romans had it. Wonder why the legions baked their own every day? Ground it in their own pestles, a little on the coarse side I've heard.
Hardtack was still the order of the day in WWI, except for the spoilt Americans, who had their own field bakeries, and that's why everybody called them doughboys. Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2016 08:29 PM (xq1UY) 399
Could be that it was baked in a terra-cotta mold, but probably not. It had a mark around the sides where string had been tied around it during baking, and probably during the last raising, which would not have been needed in a mold.
It could have been baked on a plate, though, I hadn't thought of that. The legionnaires carried terra-cotta covers like a tajine lid with them to bake bread on the march, but nothing like that seems to be found with the bakery The loaf, as I understand it, was recovered in the 30's so I am not sure any real archeology was done on it. Anyhow, it is one of those things I dig out of my memory and chew on for a while, now and then. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:34 PM (q2o38) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:35 PM (iQIUe) 401
We've been abandoned!
Some times I feel like a moronless child... Some times I feel like a moronless child... Some times I feel like a moronless child... Long way from home. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! Sometimes I feel like a moronic child. Posted by: Joe Biden at January 31, 2016 08:36 PM (b2qGx) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:39 PM (iQIUe) 403
I believe that bread and pizza dough needs to ferment or age. The difference between nonaged and aged is impressive.
I once went to a restaurant were the owner prided himself in using only the freshest dough to make pizza. It was lifeless and bland. No character at all. He was insulted that I would suggest letting his dough age for a couple of days. Months later a famous food critic had to perform a makeover of the restaurant. One bite of the pizza and he almost spit it out on camera. Posted by: ugg boots at January 31, 2016 08:40 PM (fbovC) 404
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2016 08:29 PM (xq1UY)
I don't think the Romans did use hardtack, I was referring to the French, even though I didn't say that. There were some French specs on manufacturing hard tack during the Franco-Prussian war a recreator spelled out to me. The specs called for the initial baking while the ovens were cooling down for the day, and the second baking for when they fired them up in the morning. The rest is pure speculation on my part. But, hard-tack would have been handy for the Roman navy. But I know of no reference to it. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:41 PM (q2o38) 405
Spotted dick, and now I wish I were blind.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 31, 2016 08:41 PM (b2qGx) 406
Cheerleaders would have been nice tonight. I know it's just the pro bowl and no one is watching but at least we'd have another thread.
Posted by: Buzzion at January 31, 2016 08:42 PM (z/Ubi) 407
hi all from BWW
well I was going to go see 13 hours, but I left late and so I decided to go drink beer instead Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 08:28 PM (WKc9e) Trying to stir up trouble again, eh? : ) j/k Posted by: Blano at January 31, 2016 08:43 PM (heN73) 408
>>The rest is pure speculation on my part. But, hard-tack would have been handy for the Roman navy. But I know of no reference to it.
Google buccellatum Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 08:45 PM (/tuJf) 409
". I'll buy the chickens and feed and they will provide the coop, free-range area, cleaning and collecting eggs."
Nice! It is a hard transition. I sort of fell off the Paleo wagon for a while, and am trying to get back. I totally understand about the two different diet thing. I also try to paleo-ize our normal food. You're such a good cook though! I'm sure your attempts are working a lot better than mine. Haha. Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2016 08:47 PM (f3Iw2) Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 08:47 PM (Z8fuk) 411
Blano I will go see it later this week
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 08:47 PM (WKc9e) 412
I know it's just the pro bowl and no one is watching but at least we'd have another thread.
I'm watching it. I'm at work so options are limited. To be fair, I'm not watching it that closely. Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2016 08:48 PM (NGd+i) Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2016 08:48 PM (qUNWi) 414
Insty linked to http://www.wideopencountry.com /watch-koreans-try- american-barbecue-first-time/
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2016 08:48 PM (EzgxV) 415
>>>Cheerleaders would have been nice tonight. I know
it's just the pro bowl and no one is watching but at least we'd have another thread. Posted by: Buzzion at January 31, 2016 08:42 PM (z/Ubi)<<< We're experimenting to see how long it takes a food thread to ferment. Posted by: hamsters at the AoSHQ Food Science Division at January 31, 2016 08:50 PM (H9MG5) 416
Baked/Roasted garlic is great. You just squeeze out of its skin onto fresh bread like it is butter.
-- It is extremely excellent. I throw a bulb (yes, I said bulb...Jr. Black and I love it) into the oven with baked potatoes. Smushing the cloves of buttery, soft garlic in a baked potato is da bomb. Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun! at January 31, 2016 08:50 PM (eCKx2) 417
Thank you for that. I am amazed of what I have never heard of before.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:50 PM (q2o38) 418
I am watching the pro bowl here at BWW, actually first time I've seen it, so Team Rice is named after Jerry Rice then?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 08:50 PM (WKc9e) 419
JTB, if you're still here, think I know the restaurant you're talking about. The large bistro down in the lower city (Quebec)? I've only been to QC in winter - dead of winter, the reason I went - so I missed out on the non-winter culinary delights. But the cold weather food is great, too. Last year I made tourtiere (Quebec spiced meat pie - dry and crumbly inside). To my astonishment, it was excellent. And added to my desire to do another winter trip up there. Best x-c skiing in N. America (at near sea-level, a huge factor), fantastic food to reward yourself. And dressed properly, walking around, it's a beautiful place, esp. at night, with the huge snow drifts and massive icicles hanging on the ancient walls and old buildings. There's a small branch of the St. Lawrence (Ste Charles), a short loop off the main river, that is narrow, and ices over of course, and the city sets up lights and even resurfaces it - you can skate for nearly a mile outside. Need to go look at air fares and other things. Maybe it's finally time to go back. Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 08:51 PM (QDnY+) 420
I would love to visit Quebec some time, seems like an interesting place
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 08:53 PM (WKc9e) 421
I never understood how the brits could eat that "black pudding" for breakfast. They call everything pudding but it is some kind of sausage that resembles black tar heroin. Disgusting.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:53 PM (iQIUe) 422
Puddings are all significantly better tasting than they look. A lot of food is that way, though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2016 08:57 PM (39g3+) 423
I loved morcilla, It is basically a rice based blood pudding.
I have said before it is the food of the gods -- granted the sort of gods you worship in basements with rites of pain and secrecy, but still very tasty. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 08:58 PM (q2o38) 424
oh Lauren,
another good one is chicken marinated in some coconut enzymes and paleo mayo with dill. Just mix it up so it's all coated and marinade for about 24 hours then brown them up in a hot skillet. Gets a nice brown crust and tastes yummy...to everyone. Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 31, 2016 08:59 PM (xVgrA) 425
About to rent a movie. The Martian or Sicario?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 08:59 PM (MNgU2) Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2016 09:01 PM (8QGte) 427
The Martian is boring. The Sicario I didnt care for. And I'm not an Emily Blont fan. But I would take Sicario.
ps: rent Narcos - it's better. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 09:02 PM (AfsKp) 429
chemjeff, Quebec City is a great place to visit. I always went in winter as I'm a winter sports fanatic. There's a winter carnival, but after a few years I avoided that, just for the reduced crowding. My introduction to the place wasa week in the field with the Canadian Forces on their winter exercise (held just south of the city). Six nights in a tent, temps close to/below Zero the whole time (but pure fun in general, anyway). Reward was a few nights staying at the officer's mess, or hotel, in the inner-most ring of the Citadel, which is otherwise an historical monument and tourist attraction. Amazing experience. Most people go in the summer and early fall. Fall would be great for the foliage. In any case the food is always great. From haute cuisine to bistro to innovative stuff. Back in those days of course there was also the Canadian discount - the loony was usually around 85-90 cents - and rebate of one of the consumption taxes (foreign visitor). Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 09:03 PM (QDnY+) 430
351 Time to roast the asparagus
------------- Is that what you kids are calling it these days? I can't keep up with the weird euphemisms.... Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 09:04 PM (ENe42) 431
Back in those days of course there was also the Canadian discount - the loony was usually around 85-90 cents - and rebate of one of the consumption taxes (foreign visitor).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 09:03 PM (QDnY+) Loonie is even lower now; 70 cents or less, I think. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2016 09:05 PM (Z8fuk) 432
>>I would love to visit Quebec some time, seems like an interesting place
Did a long weekend there during winter carnival - it was fun! Cold, but so much going on outside. Old Quebec city is beautiful. Took us a while to figure out that all the signs for Caribou! were advertising the drink, not the meat. Posted by: Lizzy at January 31, 2016 09:05 PM (NOIQH) 433
The brass ain't gonna trim itself, so back to the workbench. Some mud wrasslin' later on the ONT, over the usual topic? We'll see. Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 09:06 PM (QDnY+) 434
Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 09:03 PM (QDnY+) since I live in Missouri I always thought it might be kind of fun to just drive north to Winnipeg, then go on a Canadian road trip from Winnipeg to Toronto to Montreal to Quebec to Halifax Normal 0 false false false EN-IN X-NONE X-NONE /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0in; mso-para-margin-right:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-ansi-language:EN-IN;} Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 09:08 PM (WKc9e) 435
oh shit
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 09:08 PM (WKc9e) Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 09:09 PM (WKc9e) 437
That one's gonna leave a mark
Posted by: dartist at January 31, 2016 09:09 PM (Nr1E9) 438
My sous vide pork tenderloins came out amazing, and I got a lb of Ethipia Yirg roasted city+. Aged about 5 days it just tastes like blueberries.
Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 31, 2016 09:09 PM (OvUux) 439
Barrel!
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2016 09:11 PM (8QGte) Posted by: fluffy at January 31, 2016 09:11 PM (AfsKp) Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2016 09:12 PM (WKc9e) 442
It's a blog, chem, not a steak. You don't have to kill the damn thing!
Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 09:12 PM (ENe42) 443
Yikes.
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 09:13 PM (MtMEd) 444
wow that is beautiful cbd
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 31, 2016 09:13 PM (0O7c5) 445
Yay! Cooking thread is still up! I just got home from my mom's house.
I wanted to ask the Horde if anyone had used a carbon steel skillet and how they liked it. Cook's illustrated says they become very nonstick with seasoning and can last forever unlike traditional nonstick. My qualm is that the pans are not supposed to be washed with soap -- only hot water and a soft sponge. The thought of not washing my pans kinda grosses me out. Also, you have to make sure you dry them well and keep them seasoned (greased) so they don't rust. Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:13 PM (ezXrF) 446
so sorry about that guys, had some MS Word text in my copy/paste buffer that I didn't clean out completely, evidently
Posted by: chemjeff in the barrel at January 31, 2016 09:14 PM (WKc9e) Posted by: speedster1 at January 31, 2016 09:14 PM (vUcdz) 448
Emmie-
Never tried carbon steel, but the care seems to be the same as cast iron. I use soap and hot water on mine sometimes. Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 09:16 PM (MtMEd) 449
Nood. Elbows.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2016 09:16 PM (kTF2Z) Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2016 09:16 PM (QDnY+) 451
chemjeff, I picked up 20lbs green @ $5.15/lb about 6 months ago. It has gone up some since then. Some coffees will never be brought to market again because of the rise of radical islam in parts of indonesia and africe. Freakin' Muj.
Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 31, 2016 09:17 PM (OvUux) 452
I'd like to try the carbon steel pans as well. I use ceramic for nonstick anymore. Thanks for reminding me! I have a Lodge being re-seasoned in the oven right now!
Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 31, 2016 09:18 PM (OvUux) 453
Spaghetti dogs with an alfredo sauce are awesomely good. That was supper tonite with a short salad. Posted by: irongrampa at January 31, 2016 09:19 PM (P/8aq) 454
What is a short salad?
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 09:20 PM (MtMEd) 455
to be honest I have only really bought big tubs of Folger's coffee, with the occasional bag of Dunkin Donuts coffee for splurging
how is the Ethiopian coffee different? Posted by: chemjeff in the barrel at January 31, 2016 09:20 PM (WKc9e) 456
irongrampa! Glad you are okay
Posted by: chemjeff in the barrel at January 31, 2016 09:21 PM (WKc9e) 457
Best price I found on the Cook's Illustrated recommended carbon steel pan (Matfer Bourgeat) is from foodservicewarehouse.com.
Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:22 PM (ezXrF) 458
445>> No worries. Red wine used to deglaze them works really well, dry it on the stovetop and use a little Manteca or Crisco to oil it when your done.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 31, 2016 09:22 PM (VcKnO) 459
Thanks for carbon pan feedback, Horde! I guess people eat from "unwashed" pans all the time and are none the worse.
CrotchetyOldJarhead, nice to hear from you! Hope to see you at a meetup sometime. Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:26 PM (ezXrF) 460
Folgers and Dunkin are generally Brazilian or Colombian coffee. Decent but average. The African coffees are supposed to have different flavors and overtones.
You can go overboard with it though. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 09:33 PM (q2o38) 461
I wanted to ask the Horde if anyone had used a
carbon steel skillet and how they liked it. Cook's illustrated says they become very nonstick with seasoning and can last forever unlike traditional nonstick. My qualm is that the pans are not supposed to be washed with soap -- only hot water and a soft sponge. The thought of not washing my pans kinda grosses me out. Also, you have to make sure you dry them well and keep them seasoned (greased) so they don't rust. Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:13 PM I have had a carbon steel wok for over twenty years and it is very non-stick. It's like cast iron, in that you get used to not using soap to clean it. I'll occasionally use a copper wool scouring pad if it's particularly stubborn Posted by: AltonJackson at January 31, 2016 09:33 PM (KCxzN) 462
Did three bread recipes from The Homemade Kitchen; Honey Oatmeal, Cinnamon Swirl, and Rye. The rye is on the last rise. It's an interesting recipe as you add some pickle juice to it. I'm freezing half of it, and making turkey soup, so I shouldn't have to cook for a few days.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2016 09:38 PM (Lqy/e) 463
AltonJackson, I've heard the nonstick properties are superior and there's no need to avoid metal utensils. And the carbon steel pans have some of the qualities of cast iron while being a bit slicker and lighter.
Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:40 PM (ezXrF) 464
I have a carbon steel pan that is seasoned. I wash it with soap. The key is to wash it quickly while hot with hot water and soap. Rinse and dry immediately. Do not use any steel wool or rough scouring type pads.
Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 31, 2016 09:40 PM (xVgrA) 465
Lindafell, interesting. Seems like a still-hot pan would dry more thoroughly and quickly, keeping rust at bay.
Posted by: Emmie at January 31, 2016 09:49 PM (ezXrF) 466
What do chick pea taste like? Never had 'em.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 04:50 PM (tv9zS) I think you may live in the wrong corner of the Metro-mess. :-) Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 31, 2016 09:52 PM (dPpmC) Posted by: Farmer at January 31, 2016 10:00 PM (o/90i) 468
I have a carbon steel pan that is seasoned. I wash it with soap. The key
is to wash it quickly while hot with hot water and soap. Rinse and dry immediately. Do not use any steel wool or rough scouring type pads. ================== I have a well-seasoned carbon steel crepe pan. Because I've earned that seasoned surface after much trial and error, I simply wipe off the pan with a damp paper towel and then dry it quickly with another towel sheet. Carbon steel is the bomb for crepes. Posted by: mrp at January 31, 2016 10:09 PM (JBggj) 469
Rhomboid, Glad you enjoyed Quebec City. I've only been there in early summer. We were curious about the place and I hadn't been to Canada since the Expo (1968?). I'm a direct descendent of one of the couples that established Q City. This is not an exclusive club. There are many thousands who qualify. Turns out I have a genetic Canuck stomach considering how much I liked the food, meat pies definitely included. I hadn't expected the quality of the seafood. That was a bonus.
Posted by: JTB at January 31, 2016 10:19 PM (FvdPb) 470
You can use pickling lime to make hominy. I haven't tried it but supposed to work the same way.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 31, 2016 10:23 PM (Lqy/e) 471
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Insty linked to http://www.wideopencountry.com /watch-koreans-try- american-barbecue-first-time/ Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2016 08:48 PM (EzgxV) ....but I see everyone knew that already.... Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2016 10:25 PM (EzgxV) 472
'ats-a OK boss. It's cute enough to watch twice.
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'ats-a OK boss. It's cute enough to watch twice. Posted by: Kindltot at January 31, 2016 10:27 PM (q2o3 I was telling the fiancee about it, IRL, when I realized: "hey, there's a food thread at Ace where people might actually be interested." So popped it in without thinking of how long the thread might have been open. Obviously, the lesson to be learned is that interacting with people IRL only causes problems. Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2016 10:40 PM (EzgxV) 474
Watch out for that fermentation. I tried making homemade kefir, and recently got a potato starter from a friend and baked some bread from it. Both things gave me bloat and explosive gas. Commercial kefir I don't have a problem with, it seems to be the homemade stuff.
I bake bread mostly from Artisan Bread in Five Minutes A Day. On cast iron: You can wash it with mild soap. Just dry it thoroughly, rub a thin film of oil on and heat the pan on the stove to dry off any remaining dampness and "harden" the oil. It doesn't really get nonstick, though. Posted by: evergreen at February 01, 2016 05:48 PM (tDwXn) Processing 0.09, elapsed 0.0927 seconds. |
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