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It Gets Worse: GOP's Spanish Language SOTU Rebuttal Doesn't Even Mention the Barebones Nods to Border Security that Nikki Haley Did; Instead Promises to Find Way to Legalize Those in the "Shadows"
Oh yeah, totally, let me get on board with this corrupt, corporate anti-American organization.
Haley's version, for English speakers:At the same time, that does not mean we just flat out open our borders. We can’t do that. We cannot continue to allow immigrants to come here illegally. And in this age of terrorism, we must not let in refugees whose intentions cannot be determined.Mario Diaz-Balert's version, for Spanish speakers:
It's essential that we find a legislative solution to protect our nation, defend our borders, offer a permanent and humane solution to those who live in the shadows, respect the rule of law, modernize the visa system and push the economy forward.Thanks to the Warden. NPR's Article: They noticed it too. Oddly enough, it is leftwing outlets telling us this. I guess the rightwing outlets didn't notice, for some reason.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:51 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (MZ8Zz)
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (hrMUT)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (MZ8Zz)
el amnestio
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: T at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (NctcF)
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: America at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (jb+28)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Jake at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (Vp/Ku)
Posted by: nip at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (r73Jl)
Posted by: Rick E. Ricardo at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (yLOuD)
Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (YFFpo)
Beat me to it. This is exactly what Arafat used to do.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: zombie Yasser Arafat at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Pope Franky Says Relax at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (jb+28)
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes
Don't listen to this imposter.
Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (c7vUv)
Which is quite common for female pols. They all eventually get squinty and pinched in the face, from too much flinching from the balls constantly socking them on the chin, no doubt.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Titanium at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (u9UgT)
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (BO/km)
What does a Canadian pop singer have to do with this?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (iHjB5)
Cruz and Trump are Republicans.
Hard times ahead.
Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes
Don't listen to this imposter.
Posted by: Jeb!
There's only one way to settle this: get me Mrs. Bush and a sword.
Posted by: King Solomon at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (jb+28)
Just remember who did it and who's looking to be given a majority again this year.
Not from me.
And the only way this works is to hold all of them accountable for all the rest of them.
Don't go voting for your guy because you think he's okay. If he voted once with the GOPe, he's GOPe and needs to go.
Otherwise it's just going to keep happening and we might as well accept it and get over it and quit bitching..
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (Xo1Rt)
Who wouldn't want to return to their home country by air?
Posted by: the trebuchet gambit at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (dbDB8)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Damiano at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (hk3Fb)
I just get such a kick out of that line. It has to be one of the dumbest lines ever appearing in any political speech.
"At the same time" - meaning that what was just said is about to be lied about for effect.
""just flat out open our borders" - it took a real rocket surgeon to even come up with that.
...
...
... I'm still laughing ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (L2co/)
Motion on the floor to label the GOPe as a gravy sucking Siberian Snow Pig of a lying sack of crapweasels, and not to be trusted in either printed nor spoken word, nor deed.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (ptqRm)
btw, in case you haven't heard, Republicans are once again whispering about creating a brokered convention in which *they select* the nominee.
But this time, the Republicans got smart and refined their devious plans and are now saying they are merely "preparing" for a "contested" convention, you see.
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by:
****
I dunno. I'm not. Unless it's Cruz. Or Trump just to stick it up their asses.
Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (MZ8Zz)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (hk3Fb)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (iFQuZ)
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (5Gpe2)
live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own
the fucking place?
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo)
Yeah, not living in the shadows, instead they are leading the rallies welcoming the Los Angeles Ramos back from St. Louis.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (TOk1P)
Ace?.......ace?
How do you say ace in French?
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (qUNWi)
Royale with fleas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (kpqmD)
Have we discovered yet if the Powerballs winner was an illegal?
Living in the shadows....collecting welfare...buying lottery tickets...
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (HgMAr)
Looks like we won't have Haley to kick around anymore. Does she intend to give 'Checkers' back?
Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: BurtTC
Won't they be disappointed when they find out it's a football team and not a futboll team.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (jb+28)
btw, in case you haven't heard, Republicans are once again
whispering about creating a brokered convention in which *they select*
the nominee.
The Thad Cochran Stratagem.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (oVJmc)
live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own
the fucking place?
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo) <<<
"Shadows" is Espanol for "Home Depot parking lot", esse.
Posted by: Handy Manny at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (AkOaV)
Won't they be disappointed when they find out it's a football team and not a futboll team.
The Rams? They're not even that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:03 PM (8ZskC)
Asked him to translate.
He won't be happy.
Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:03 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: GOPe talking heads at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (H9MG5)
To be fair, standing on the pavement at the Home Depot all day long is cruel and unusual. There's shade behind the nursery section, and by the north wall next to that part of the parking lot.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: that makes sense at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (dbDB8)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (yLOuD)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Calls the RNC at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (6Ll1u)
Bad translation. I think he said "shade." They do hang out in the shade a lot, you know.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Handy Manny at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (H9MG5)
Wrong. DSS, bitchez.
Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (48QDY)
I'm making popcorn.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (9iR5/)
It's just that they're anti-anti-illegals. They don't support it so much as they regard an attack as racial.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (HgMAr)
It was a ridiculous discussion. It all depends on the particular boobs and there were no pics linked.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (zc3Db)
That NO ONE WOULD NOTICE. Even though we've caught the Palis doing shit like this.
That's what gets me. The total lack of respect. That they think they can just talk about us to our face and we won't do anything about it.
Are they correct?
Will you let them get away with this one more time?
Don't think about how your guy is okay and vote him back in. That's the problem we keep voting in "our guy" and they keep letting the GOPe shit all over us.
Vote for the libertarian, the independent write a candidate in.
If enough people did that, the results would be shocking.
At least vote for a Republican for President so as to keep any potential Democrat Congress from going crazy.
And that's what is at risk of course and they know it.
Well we need to stop being afraid of a Democrat Controlled Congress. Remember LIB? That's what will happen if they get control of Congress again.
Let the LIV's finally learn what happens when the people who do the work, stop.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Jake at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (Vp/Ku)
At this point, I think the flaming skull should be reserved for when something actually good happens . . .
Not that I can, off the top of my head, conceive of anything actually good happening any time soon.
Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:06 PM (s5o+q)
*fireballs* *fireballs* *fireballs*
Posted by: Your Betters in the GOP at January 14, 2016 07:06 PM (AJ1u5)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: garrett at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (bpyiA)
Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (OvUux)
I know him. Jorge Ramos. From East L.A.
There's a baseball team the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim." You get that name because they play down in Orange County. Seriously, what kind of Mickey Mouse outfit has its home in Anaheim.
So now, we're going to call our new team the "Los Angeles Rams of Inglewatts." That'll go over well.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (iIzG7)
I wouldn't put the Diaz-Balert speech on her.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (jb+28)
Posted by: steevy at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (8HTq1)
somehow gets elected. I predict open rioting in the southwest, possibly
other areas, if wins. That will be before he even takes office.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)
Sounds Lincoln-esque.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Mario Diaz-Balert at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (Gpls4)
Guy Benson is a piece of shit. Another one who pretends to pretend he's a Conservative.
Another Faux News sellout.
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (Xo1Rt)
Both sides should submit photographic evidence supporting their positions so a proper conclusion can be reached.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (YFFpo)
And Paul Ryan--he's a fucking snake. He should be horsewhipped on the floor of the House or Reps.
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (o9lmn)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (HgMAr)
63 I think this might be a hot political topic today -- Conservative Treehouse has a piece on how Nikki's English version and the Spanish version of the SOTU response differed substantially (hint -- the Spanish version sounded much more amnesty-like)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Carol at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Pixy and the Hamsters at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (2yngH)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (Gpls4)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: daninmichigan at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (2yD4G)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (o9lmn)
Or at least a really good caning!
Posted by: Rep Preston Brooks at January 14, 2016 07:11 PM (wYnyS)
Carly one but, that face! I hate myself for it but Huckabee is likeable to me, like a jolly fat preacher.
I wouldn't choose him for President though.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (rwI+c)
English translation: go the fvck home, and stay the fvck home. Permanently for you, and humane for me.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (e3bId)
One might even go so far as to say they are looking for one with some Finality to it.
Kind of a mixed message, no?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (48QDY)
Explains this comment:
"I'd almost rather lose to Hillary and have 4 years to come up with someone better rather than put one of these people in office and lose the next election. "
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)
We're talking euthanasia?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Max Power at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (q177U)
Yes every time I think at least NOW they've reached the absolute limit of depravity, then the GOP manages to achieve new depths!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Grump928(C) calls for the Scoops at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (rwI+c)
Is there another source? A source that is not just repeating Think Progress?
Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (q5uuT)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)
He never did have all that big a role in The Beach Boys.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (JO9+V)
Si, but the lawns are trimmed at very low wages.
Posted by: Hilary Clinton at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (vBeA5)
Soylent Green.
Posted by: Grump928(C) calls for the Scoops at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (rwI+c)
-----------------------------------
You blew it all to hell!!
Sorry - wrong movie.
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (e3bId)
Bad translation. I think he said "shade." They do hang out in the shade a lot, you know.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (8ZskC)
.....................
Taking the siestas Americans won't take.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (HgMAr)
Your horny Arabs yearning to cop a feel,
The fecund baby-mamas of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I hand out EBT cards beside the golden door!
Posted by: The GOPe at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (iHjB5)
Bollocks. The one feeds the other. Exhibit A: Marco Rubio.
Start hitting your local GOPers hard with this. As them how they can justify being part of a party that engages in such blatant dishonesty towards the very voters they ask to put them in office.
It has to be burned out by the roots or it will keep coming back.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: garrett at January 14, 2016 07:17 PM (bpyiA)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:17 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (Xo1Rt)
It gets worse:
"a permanent and humane solution to those who live in the shadows,
respect the rule of law, modernize the visa system and push the economy
forward."
So they want a permanent "solution" to people who are
- rule respecting
- economy pushing
Illegal aliens don't do either, since they abuse welfare and violate this country's laws. That leaves the law-abiding citizens, who are overshadowed by illegals, yet follow the law and do the work that keeps the economy going.
That's who they want a "permanent solution" for.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (wYnyS)
The cars not the Ewok.
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (BO/km)
But why do her eyes water so? Does she have a Fox flunky put drops in those big hazels at every break?
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (o9lmn)
Protecting their phoney-baloney jobs.
--- Gov. LePetomaine
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (iIzG7)
Have you seen your jardinero, standing in the shadow?
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)
.....................
Yes, and I told him to put on a fucking sombrero and get back to work.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (HgMAr)
Nope, we are screwed, blued, and soon to be tattooed, after reading on Breitbart, a link to Times Of Israel quoting the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander who publicly stated they were prepared (had missile lock on) to sink the USS Truman (an aircraft carrier in the area.)
Iran or China is going to sink a carrier before Obama leaves the White House, and then what?
Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 14, 2016 07:19 PM (q5uuT)
Illegal aliens don't do either, since they abuse
welfare and violate this country's laws. That leaves the law-abiding
citizens, who are overshadowed by illegals, yet follow the law and do
the work that keeps the economy going.
That's who they want a "permanent solution" for.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (0NdlF)
That doesn't even begin to cover the drunk driving and the kidnappings.
Google "hispanic kidnapping" and soak yourself in the glories of diversity.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:20 PM (4ErVI)
I just hope they can speak some Chinese, because that's where they're heading!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:20 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (Xo1Rt)
Luxury! We wished we had something as nice as a Le Car.
Posted by: The Four East Germans at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (JO9+V)
Well put. And I'll be making the call
Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (FO+wW)
I cannot fathom how tone deaf they are. I mean at this point they are trying to through Rubio under the bus to give the Jeb! a 'comeback' boost before the first round of primaries.
The consultant class is a bunch of fucking traitors and should have their passports yanked. Don't let them jet off to some resort to escape the mess they've created.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (r6ujM)
It's starting to look like we should be taking us Farsi.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (iIzG7)
Secretariat Kerry to apologize profusely, followed by much congratulation for avoiding conflict!
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (o9lmn)
He did write two great songs they recorded "California Saga Part 3" and Lady Lynda.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (nSW/N)
There's
a baseball team the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim." You get that name
because they play down in Orange County. Seriously, what kind of Mickey
Mouse outfit has its home in Anaheim.
So now, we're going to call our new team the "Los Angeles Rams of Inglewatts." That'll go over well.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (iIzG7)
Inglewatts... is that a bad area? Really, all I know is from doing a google streetview on the site. For all I know the area could be like Beverly Hills.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Lea at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (428I9)
Posted by: Benson, C.46
With hostages you get egg roll.
Posted by: Red China at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (jb+28)
Take them seriously. They've declared themselves to be your enemy.
And that's why the GOPe must die. Not reform, not "win this election". The party must be burned, the ashes scattered, and the ground salted.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (DCV+N)
If you care about the baby table debate, and be honest -- you don't, The WaPo has a complete live transcript going:
http://tinyurl.com/zvt8w87
Which is pretty impressive
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (kdS6q)
I can't deal with more debates.
Model airplane glue is cheap & plentiful.
Posted by: Josephistan at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (g8Hfr)
When you act weak and indecisive, the strong and decisive will take advantage.
This means that they will do things they wouldn't if they thought you'd respond with a missile and not John Effin Kerry.
So they keep nudging and nudging until finally one dimwit goes to far and then the US has to do something because if they don't they will be taken advantage of by others that aren't quite so powerful and it piles on.
Remember Carter? And all he did was get elected right before the Mullahs decided that he was a weak and ineffectual idiot. And they were correct.
Now Obama's doing the same stupid stuff and remarkably with the same group of assholes.
Jeesus people. Read an effin history book now and then.
A good one. Not one of those put out for high school kids. A real one with facts in it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (Xo1Rt)
The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.
Posted by: Harun at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (UBBWX)
ace, I believe TrivialPursuer and perhaps one other (forget nick) mentioned and linked this earlier today - just to be fair.
Also - you sound angry, as though you lack compassion. There's even a tinge of outrage in your approach. Now, now, join the smart kids. Let's not be the loud voice in this, OK?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)
Inglewood -8
Watts -10
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
The admiral in command will respond in an ass kicking fashion and find themselves relieved of command as part of Barry's and Kerry's apology to the aggressor nation state the next day.
At least unless congress has enough stones (HA HA HA) to declare war before Obama can respond.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (r6ujM)
Sorta like the Sir Shankalot. At some point you have to get past ineptitude and move on to willful.
Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (FO+wW)
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM
Le Ace.
...
I think it's L'As.
Posted by: ace at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Roy at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (fWLrt)
http://tinyurl.com/hwgep9k
Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (MZ8Zz)
"A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish."
..................
La deportacion completa? Works for me.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)
Welcome to the party, pal.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (8ZskC)
There are good parts of Inglewood, and there are others. Check out the first ten minutes of Kevin Kline's "Grand Canyon," and you'll see what happens when your car breaks down in a bad part of Inglewood.
Hence, Inglewatts.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (iIzG7)
The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.
Narrative reframe, eh?
Too little, too late.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (FkBIv)
Fiorina was asked whether, in an effort to fight the Islamic State, she would accept an alliance with Russia and Iran. She said no, and added that the United States must stick by Saudi Arabia in its ongoing tensions with Iran.
"Saudi Arabia is our ally, and Iran is our adversary," Fiorina said after offering a list of Middle Eastern allies whose leaders she knew personally.
Our Saudi ally. Let that just sit there for a moment.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ace at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (dciA+)
And we have a threadwinner!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:27 PM (iHjB5)
Today's word is: "Harassment".
"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."
Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (3myMJ)
"A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish."
..................
La deportacion completa? Works for me.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (HgMAr)
Arbeit macht frijoles.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (kpqmD)
Welcome to the party, pal
What if he says something really absurd? What would it take for you to change your mind? I think I'd give him plenty of room but he could still blow it.
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Pepe Le Pew at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (JO9+V)
Good job Ace. Why don't you take the rest of the day Off?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (Xo1Rt)
The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.
Narrative reframe, eh?
Too little, too late.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (0NdlF)
Bullshit. That was coordinated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (kpqmD)
Earlier, Fiorina had denounced both GOP front-runner Donald Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton as examples of "crony capitalism."
"As I was doing the backstroke, swimming up the corporate fish ladder at ATT while banging my boss...."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:30 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:30 PM (s5o+q)
What does it say about the political acumen of Lyin' Ryan, his sockpuppet Nikki Haley-Barbour, and the GOP consultantocracy, that they thought they could (a) pull the same stunt, (b) not have it be detected, and (c) not be damaging if detected?
Posted by: torquewrench at January 14, 2016 07:31 PM (noWW6)
That's it! Hillary is part Vogon.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (iIzG7)
First Rubio pulls this crap to sell his amnesty bill and now the GOP uses it nonchalant in the SOTU rebuttal. Unbelievable.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (Gpls4)
Not voting for Trump, I'm voting against the GOPe. Just like I used to vote against the Democrats.
So to change my mind, give me a candidate who will not only burn down the GOP, but sodomize its corpse.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (0NdlF)
That's why most laws dont' deter crime.
And in the case of the GOPe it doesn't deter stupidity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (Xo1Rt)
Don't recall that part. Did they get a ride of Golgafricham Ark 'B'?
Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (AfsKp)
"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."
Mushroom.
http://tinyurl.com/hjcc6nc
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (8ZskC)
It is now quite clear that the Republican party wants to (and has been) position themselves as the moderate alternative to the Democrat party.
They stand for nothing. Republicans are everything you want from the Democrat party but with the volume set to "5" instead of "11."
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)
Nah, that could never happen.
Posted by: A. Lincoln at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: In Exile at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (Z7AXG)
COOCIRIA.
I'll work on it.
Posted by: iforgot at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (kKokP)
Since they can't get that legally, they're going for "who you going to vote for?" and then getting together with the Dems to do whatever it is they're masters wish.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:35 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: iforgot at January 14, 2016 07:35 PM (kKokP)
Arbeit macht frijoles.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016
.......................
Frijoles macht frei.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:36 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (iIzG7)
Nah.
Vogons aren't alcoholic nor do they scissor...
Posted by: Deep Thought at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (vBeA5)
"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."
......................
Then why were you doing butt stuff with her?
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (HgMAr)
We'll just seize all that money and give it to the vets and the families of the killed service members and the families of people killed by illegals.
It's because you squatted here and enjoyed the protection they provided to you. It's also a tax for all the misery you've caused. And now that you've paid it, leave.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (jb+28)
There's perfectly good lights at our embassies in there home countries, right by the sign which says Line starts here.
Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (DL2i+)
Our 10 sailors got released.
In unrelated news, I am sure, 10 GITMO terrorists were released today.
Surely this is a coincidence.
Posted by: Damiano at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:38 PM (BO/km)
wants to (and has been) position themselves as the moderate alternative
to the Democrat party.
They stand for nothing. Republicans are everything you want from the
Democrat party but with the volume set to "5" instead of "11."
Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (haxo2)
They've positioned themselves a millimeter to the right of the Democrats, in the vain hope that they can siphon off everything that isn't in the far left.
Those of us that aren't the far left see only two totalitarian Big Government parties. Isn't this America? Shouldn't we have a choice in how our government is run?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (HalrA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Siberian_pig
Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (DL2i+)
It's no longer a legitimate political party, certainly at the federal level.
They are in fact our real enemies.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (uWjKl)
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)
It was the take their coats line wasn't it?
Posted by: rebel flounder at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (3dOE/)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (Gpls4)
Posted by: Burt Toast at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (6Xbsz)
Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.
And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
At this point, we either build the wall or cease to be the USA inside of two decades. A vote for more "electronic fence" and "pathway" chicanery is a vote to turn the country solid blue with motor voter laws, and let the Democrats have an unopposed supermajority forever.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: Croms Dirty Underpants at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (xudgf)
Don't recall that part. Did they get a ride of Golgafricham Ark 'B'?
Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (AfsKp)
The first ones up against the wall when the revolution comes.
Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (s5o+q)
Granted, the establishment douchenozzles still think no one would notice.
Posted by: Arcadehero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (nwQ+G)
Posted by: confused at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (dbDB8)
Posted by: wth
I thought potatoes made fries.
Posted by: Joe Biden
The French make fries.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)
So when does the buggering of little boys part of the program start? Cuz I may switch parties.
Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (8ZskC)
Is that why Ryan was sporting a beard for a while?
He looked kinda Muslimish.
He shaved it off because of Laura Ingraham (or his wife).
He's still and asshole though.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig
C'mere, I have something to show you.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Earl of Sandwich at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (jb+28)
I don't know what, if anything, could change my mind now.
If there is rioting over him being the candidate or being elected, better now than before the numbers are even more lopsided than they are currently.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (W+Itt)
Posted by: weew at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (O1uuu)
No that is the Big Vent. She didn't get a needed stitch or two after having Chelsea.
Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (6Xbsz)
208
Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.
And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
.........................
He has one job.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (HgMAr)
Can we all just agree the 'media' is a government propaganda arm
designed to misinform the people? Read '1984' by George Orwell for
goodness sake.
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)
The Framers never imagined the day when a half-dozen people would own all major media, essentially trading the freedom of the press for being a state media arm in the service of a totalitarian regime that rewards them as its lackeys.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (HalrA)
It's why criticizing John McCain cost him nothing. McCain has been in government for decades and could've made the vets his signature issue. Instead it's been scandal after scandal with the VA and McCain does nothing.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)
As I never tire of saying, the Soviet media told lies and spread propaganda for fear of being sent to the gulag. The American media do it willingly.
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (sdi6R)
Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!
Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (KCxzN)
He thought it would look good to go with his new image but he found out that that he looked like a putz. So he shaved it off and now he looks like a naked putz.
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (BO/km)
And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.
People should start bringing bricks to his rallies.
Posted by: Josephistan at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (0kOJG)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (Gpls4)
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Apt
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Hillary at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (c7vUv)
Cruz not reporting that Goldman Sachs loan is dirty.
Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!
Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)
I think it's safe to say that there's significant trust issues with both Cruz and Trump. Cruz also backed the TPP, which was one of Obama's "pass it to find out what's in it" shit sandwiches.
Given the choice between two candidates who *might* put a knife in our back, and no other alternatives who haven't promised to stab us in the front already, you may as well vote for the more popular one who isn't beholden to the money machines.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)
I'm almost there...
Posted by: Max Power at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (q177U)
I can just read next week's news:
"In retrospect, the combination of Trump supporters and bricks was bound to be problematic."
Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (74ZYB)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (voOPb)
Too many to choose from. You must be more specific.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (Xo1Rt)
If for no other reason, his ego will not let him back down or backtrack on this.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (W+Itt)
Posted by: Lord Douchebag at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (ptqRm)
It's just one more pile of Trump's redherring horseshit.
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)
The GOPe asked for it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Duke of prunes at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (74ZYB)
Never mind.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: wth
I thought potatoes made fries.
Posted by: Joe Biden
The French make fries.
John has a tall bottle of ketchup ...
Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (AoK0a)
>>>Cruz not reporting that Goldman Sachs loan is dirty.
Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!
Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)<<<
Good job, Kal (Penn). Now come back to bed... Lil Barry is getting cold.
Posted by: SCOAMF at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (/tuJf)
If for no other reason, his ego will not let him back down or backtrack on this.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (W+Itt)
It's in his interest to succeed; whereas it has been in the interests of the GOPe to fail and make empty promises about next time.
It's worth a shot.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (0NdlF)
Just another brick in the wall ...
Posted by: Pink ... at January 14, 2016 07:55 PM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Louis Winthorpe III at January 14, 2016 07:55 PM (dbDB8)
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (9iR5/)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Horatius at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (4ErVI)
It's not called the Silly Season for nothing.
There will be STRING ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Guy Who Thinks Things are Worse than Hitler at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (vxQr6)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
Who do you think is going to build the wall?
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (jb+28)
I can just read next week's news:
"In retrospect, the combination of Trump supporters and bricks was bound to be problematic."
Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (74ZYB)
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That's one way to discourage protestors taking up slots at the packed house rallies.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (FkBIv)
Too many to choose from. You must be more specific.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (Xo1Rt)
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Took the words right out of my keyboard.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (MbrzC)
Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.
.................
They make wonderful gifts.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: the current establishment Republicans at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (voOPb)
Why...why do people doubt me?
Get some recipes for the Food Thread.
Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (DL2i+)
I'm getting pretty good at predicting how stupid something I'm about to put in a comment is.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (Xo1Rt)
A button that says delete before posting would be the most used thing on the site.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: The Pappa Hat at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (DLIIY)
If you're that up or prepared for that, then a .50 cal will have to do the clean up.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (Xo1Rt)
And even if he were telling the truth, which he's not, no wall is going to get funding from either an R or D congress.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
She's one of them. But she has a weak back, so she'll need extra whipping.
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (jb+28)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (MbrzC)
@268 Kathleen Sebelius?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (voOPb)
No Kathy you don't get the water jug today because you shit your pants in the tent last night. Them's the rules. Now get back to work.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (NiHAc)
Goldman Sachs also contributed heavily to Obama. They have a knack for getting their way no matter which party is in power.
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (0O7c5)
Yeah ... but she has a security detail with a dim view of letting you put a straight jacket on her ...
Bill might get a chuckle, though ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (AoK0a)
Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.
.................
They make wonderful gifts.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (HgMAr)
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Sounds like Adopt-A-Highway
Adopt-A-Wall-Section
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at January 14, 2016 08:04 PM (RtG9B)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)
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You should of heard by now who's going to pay for it.
Posted by: The Donald at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (MbrzC)
Actually, I believe the money is there but the Traitor In Chief won't make it a priority so it's not getting done.
I think he's not quite got the same outlet as the GOPe does about the illegal alien problem.
It's a problem for the country both politically and economically and we can't exist much longer as the US without securing out borders.
That the GOPe is willing to ignore that just for the possibility that they might garner a few more votes is treasonous on their part.
We shall see.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
Moochelle, on the other hand, looks strong. She should last several weeks before dropping.
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (jb+28)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2016 08:06 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:06 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)
Just use an executive order using the entire funding of the Department of Education as a bloc grant for vocational training in wall building at the border. If that's not enough, issue another one taking the budget of the EPA and issuing it as a bloc grant to monitor the environmental impact of building a huge fucking wall at the border.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)
Trust me it's bad. Looks like a Boston cream doughnut.
Posted by: Wicket at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (cmE8J)
It is time to face them head on.
There isn't a prayer of that happening with any other candidate.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (W+Itt)
the GOPE is the enemy.
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)
See! Dack's my backup. Newsletter please.
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (BO/km)
*pulls out waistband, looks down*
Does this look infected to you?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (Xo1Rt)
We need money for the wall and we're a little short. Since you guys have been dicking around, empty your pockets, all of you.
What? Screw you we're leaving.
No you're not. The doors are chained shut from the outside. Now give until it hurts.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (4ErVI)
You should of heard by now who's going to pay for it.
Posted by: The Donald
........................
If your Mexican friends don't come through you could appoint freaked as your Wall Czar. He has some great marketing ideas.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (MbrzC)
I really didn't think I needed the sarc tag. My bad.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (9iR5/)
the GOPE is the enemy.
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)
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So basically the same as every other night on O'Blowhard. Gotcha.
Posted by: The Donald at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (MbrzC)
Make checks out to Committee to "Elect The Impaler 2016".
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+28)
I really didn't think I needed the sarc tag. My bad.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (9iR5/)
Nor did I, my bad.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (KlVdw)
Posted by: Dickie Betts fan at January 14, 2016 08:13 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 08:13 PM (b+df9)
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (KlVdw)
Well, it is insanitary in places.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:14 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:16 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (m9V0o)
they're in the fricken line at the Publix deli--and cutting the grass outside
Posted by: John Stuart Moop at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (8CdUx)
Live stream of debate link from Fox Business News Debate:
http://tinyurl.com/jls7vsv
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (Xo1Rt)
I saw that poll. Comes from the same place where people cannot figure out why Trump is destroying everyone.
Listen, when Cruz can fill a Waffle House from some of the thousands of people that Trump has to turn away from the football stadiums, then we can start to at least talk turkey. A tiny turkey.
Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)
According to the Supreme Court, the executive branch is free to spend money to make sure that legislation works as (someone) intended. So, if Obama can subsidize health insurance policies in states with no exchange, then Trump can build the fence that Congress authorized. And to think that the ruling angered me at first.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (9iR5/)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (uZNvH)
That could be a start.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+2
Hmmm, depends. What is your policy on Muslims?
Posted by: Sharpend Wood Pole Makers Local, No. 101 at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (vBeA5)
Let me be clear, my position is to round up current and former members
of the Oministration, put them in forced labor camps to build the border
wall, and dump their bodies in the Rio Grande when they die of
exhaustion.
Make checks out to Committee to "Elect The Impaler 2016".
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+2
Make the work menu Michelle's high school meal program.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (4ErVI)
that deporting illegals isIMPOSSIBLE, as Dana PreRino nods sagely.
the GOPE is the enemy.
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)
As proven by the fact that no illegal has ever been successfully deported.
Posted by: Burt Toast at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Wicket at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (cmE8J)
Makes for a bit of a sticky Wicket, eh wot? Try the sheep dip, it has fungicides.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (L2co/)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (3myMJ)
Is there something specific you are referring to or is it just a general feeling of disgust? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (M+RRn)
I mean... if current laws were enforced, it wouldn't be THAT difficult.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (AkOaV)
Build the wall....
and stop the inevitably of the USA becoming Kalifornia or.....enjoy AOSHQ while you can, Rush and all the rest of them because unless that wall is built, pronto, you will think Goebbels came back from the dead to run the American 'media'.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (DCV+N)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (qCMvj)
If there were a good chance of deportation and not a great chance of finding work, most would leave and/or not come in the first place.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ray Nitschke 66 at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (EAUyw)
That could be a start.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (q2o3
Make it 90% and sign me up.
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (sH2Lu)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (AkOaV)
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Not to mention reducing the 'draw'...right now it's like this administration is advertising... quick get over the border as quick as possible...nobody will do anything to stop you for now... going out of office sale!
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (MbrzC)
"I-I-I was hungry!! And I'm so weak! I just..."
"Cookie! Get your whip and get over here. Mr. Kerry is undergoing what we like to call a failure to communicate. Can you show Mr. Kerry what happens when communication breaks down?"
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (qCMvj)
No hearing, just put them on a plane and send them home with no reentry
for 10 years.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (9iR5/)
Try not allowing employers who have employees that don't have matching SSN/Name/DOB to deduct employee wages from their business taxes?
There would be nothing like getting a letter from the tax man saying your three cheap-as-dirt employees' wages are as deductable as the Camaro you bought for your daughter with the company credit card to reconsider the quality of employee you would like to hire.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (q2o38)
1) stop the in flow of invaders. Without that, any other actions taken will be a waste of time and money.
2) tighten up visa rules and track in and out by electronic chip on a card.
3) raid businesses known to hire illegals and round up any illegals. Fine the businesses and close them for repeat offense.
4) stop catering to non english speakers.
5) tax/fine/fee for money being sent out of the country to the major locations of the homes of the invaders. Reduce the advantage to coming here.
6) offer a sign up for any who can prove (via income tax returns on a legal SS number or tax number) that they have been productive residents for over 10 years. They will be on the track for citizenship in another 5 years.
7) anyone else found gets the boot.
8 ) no more anchor babies. Not legal citizen kid not legal citizen. Deport.
9) then we talk about other details.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (Xo1Rt)
How about a 25% tax on all remittances to Mexico and Central America?
That ought to just about offset the cost of the taxes not being paid,
the entitlement benefits being sucked up, and the cost of the prisons
being used to house the ones that are convicted.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (iIzG7)
The thing is...I don't really want them in the prisons anymore either. Bit a problem considering some of the crimes (murder, rape, etc.) they've committed, but I don't want taxpayers paying a single more dime for these people. I'd deport them if I knew we could absolutely keep them out permanently.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (4ErVI)
most of my neighbors in this upscale part of Lost Angles have them, and the market would dry up if they suddenly had to pay withholding taxes, w*rkman's comp, file I-9s, etc.
cut off the demand, and the supply would self-deport.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (sH2Lu)
Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:28 PM (kk/oj)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (4ErVI)
prison is a major disincentive.
I don't want to pay for it either, but that needs to be looming over their head. I'd rather pay $30k a year to keep them in jail then whatever it costs in bennies to keep them on the streets.
Of course, the MOST preferable alternative is for them to just... leave
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:29 PM (kk/oj)
Yes he is. Trump is a builder, a real estate developer. He lives and breaths building things. A wall is like a kindergarten project for him.
Trump is no Obama. He's not known as a bait and switch operator.
He's used to doing what he says he will do. The business world demands that of him. He'd have been out of business years ago otherwise.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (yox0K)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (kk/oj)
Elementary school in Los Angeles mandates Veganism.
http://Preview.tinyurl.com/zqpdkq5
Posted by: The Meat-Eating Hat at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (vBeA5)
country to the major locations of the homes of the invaders. Reduce the
advantage to coming here.
6) offer a sign up for any who can
prove (via income tax returns on a legal SS number or tax number) that
they have been productive residents for over 10 years. They will be on
the track for citizenship in another 5 years.
7) anyone else found gets the boot.
8 ) no more anchor babies. Not legal citizen kid not legal citizen. Deport.
9) then we talk about other details.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (Xo1Rt)
Re: #5. I think you could word the legislation so that it wouldn't cause hardship upon U,S. citizens, legal visitors, or corporations moving money into Central America for honest pursuits, say buying property, or investing in a business.
Find a way to define, and tax, "family remittances by illegal aliens".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:31 PM (L2co/)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (MbrzC)
I think we all agree that SOME people would be able to stay. But that cannot be said / agreed to up front. That creates confusing incentives.
It must be "everyone leave" of course starting with low hanging fruit. And "everyone who sneaks back in gets fucked" somehow.
Then, yeah -- there will be those who are still here. Who are "the good ones" (as Trump would stay) who... well, we can talk about them then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4ErVI)
Think Hadrians Wall.
Who the eff is Hadrian?
But we all know about his wall.
You think he can pass that chance by?
NO. WAY.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:29 PM (kk/oj)
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So the bow is buckling like our other ships?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (sH2Lu)
Yup...Jose and Pedro and Henry only want to work here and send money home. Everyone forgets that they have homes in dear old Mexico.
Off they will go when their get no more dough.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (MbrzC)
Shit. Fuckin waves. Didn't think about that. Unforeseen, if you will.
-American military ship building contractors.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (AkOaV)
Foreigners.
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Posted by: The Meat-Eating Hat at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:31 PM (L2co/)
Allow a waiver of tax if an actual SSN is used?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:34 PM (q2o38)
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Dack, the man who murdered Kate Steinle in SF had been deported five times. Said that the reason he was in SF was because it was a sanctuary city.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:35 PM (9iR5/)
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (AkOaV)
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Let's be accurate and even more humorous... it was the indeed the Navy there, not the contractor, who built to the spec requested.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:37 PM (MbrzC)
There are no perfect candidates that we can ALL agree on, there never has been.
Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 14, 2016 08:40 PM (xVgrA)
Here, trust of the Republican establishment is at an all time low, all this will do is earn them the mistrust of conservatives as well as liberals. This stunt will merely increase everyone's mistrust. Even if they were on a kamikaze mission to sink Trump and Cruz, this will just make them more popular.
Posted by: lost in jeblation at January 14, 2016 08:43 PM (GKF1b)
Posted by: Admiral Dalton at January 14, 2016 08:46 PM (r/fFS)
My position for years is that if a politician tells you he's going to 'build the Wall", he's lying. So far, I'm right.
Trump hasn't even been to the border except for that Laredo photo-op. I don't expect him to give me blueprints--just some little sign that he knows the issues.
If you don't take away the incentives, a barrier is worth nothing.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:47 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:35 PM (9iR5/)
The Ukrainian criminals that were caught on our ranch had served time in US jail and then been deported. They came back through Mexico.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:51 PM (CoX6k)
Tell that to Israel. and Hungary. And (I think ) Croatia.
Walls work.
Build the wall first as it sends the message that we're serious and it slows the inflow to a trickle that can be dealt with.
Then work on the inner stuff. the incentives and the violators who allow illegals to work. And the visa stayers.
It's not rocket science. It's just icky and there's going to be sob stories up the ying yang.
Tough. Suck it up and go back home. make YOUR home a better place. Here we'll give you money to do so. GO. HOME.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:52 PM (Xo1Rt)
Sure.
I have no reason to believe that any of them, including Trump, will do it.
I don't follow Trump closely, but I haven't yet seen any indication he knows what's involved.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:55 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)
thanks, I may be completely wrong, and would be happy to be proven so, but my BS meter pegs on this thing.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:57 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:47 PM (CoX6k)
Doesn't work that way with Trump. He's like Henry Ford sending his engineers back to their drawing boards when they told him a V-8 motor was impossible. He just said, "build it anyway".
No man can achieve a detailed grasp on all the issues that face a President, especially at this point in a campaign.
For Presidents, it's about who they put on their team, who they listen to, being shrewd and using common sense. They need a lot of luck too.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:57 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)
You bet. All I ask for is a sign, just some tiny little signal that he's not just spewing BS.
Haven't seen that. Maybe I missed it though.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:00 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:01 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 09:01 PM (NiHAc)
A politician? Sure, I wholeheartedly agree. Trump is a businessman, builder, real estate developer who is running for office for the first and last time in his life. He's not a politician.
"Trump hasn't even been to the border except for that Laredo photo-op. I don't expect him to give me blueprints--just some little sign that he knows the issues."
Building a wall is the simplest of projects. Seriously, I don't think it gets any easier.
"just some little sign that he knows the issues."
Uh, that's his life's work. He knows the issues.
"If you don't take away the incentives, a barrier is worth nothing."
It's not worth nothing. It's an integral piece, a major component. Walls work.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:05 PM (yox0K)
Haven't seen that. Maybe I missed it though.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:00 PM (CoX6k)
OK, that's a trust thing, and I get that. Everyone decides that in their own way.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 09:06 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig at January 14, 2016 09:06 PM (AfsKp)
What do you expect him to do. Start hiring the laborers before he's elected? Seriously, he's not going to the moon. It's a stupid wall not a space program.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:08 PM (yox0K)
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See, this is the trust problem I have. To build less than a hundred of mile of border fence in Texas, the gov had to sue 400 landowners. The fence in Tx has to be built a 1/2 mile to a mile north of the border, mostly on private land.
Can it be done? Of course!
But when I hear folks say it's the simplest pf projects, that sets the BS meter on fire.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:16 PM (CoX6k)
"But when I hear folks say it's the simplest pf projects, that sets the BS meter on fire."
What does this have to do with trusting Trump? You are all over the map.
You first call out Trump as a politician who is lying then you transfer the issue to the Texas government having problems.
How do you get to stretch somebody else's history and project it on Trump?
Trump is not the Texas government. A president and the Federal government is a whole different ballgame especially since like 65-70% of the population wants the wall.
Will there be legal hurdles and obstacles? Sure, there are with every big project.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:30 PM (yox0K)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 14, 2016 09:50 PM (tCjRC)
Trump WANTS a wall. He's said so for years and years, and years.
It will get built if Trump is president.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:52 PM (yox0K)
I call that the "Ace of Spades" model of journalism.
Oh, sorry, did you forget that you admitted lying to all of us? And now you're complaining about someone else doing the same? Well, I guess it's only okay if it's you, huh?
Pot, meet Kettle.
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