It Gets Worse: GOP's Spanish Language SOTU Rebuttal Doesn't Even Mention the Barebones Nods to Border Security that Nikki Haley Did; Instead Promises to Find Way to Legalize Those in the "Shadows"

Oh yeah, totally, let me get on board with this corrupt, corporate anti-American organization.

Haley's version, for English speakers:

At the same time, that does not mean we just flat out open our borders. We canít do that. We cannot continue to allow immigrants to come here illegally. And in this age of terrorism, we must not let in refugees whose intentions cannot be determined.

Mario Diaz-Balert's version, for Spanish speakers:

It's essential that we find a legislative solution to protect our nation, defend our borders, offer a permanent and humane solution to those who live in the shadows, respect the rule of law, modernize the visa system and push the economy forward.

Thanks to the Warden.

NPR's Article: They noticed it too.

Oddly enough, it is leftwing outlets telling us this.

I guess the rightwing outlets didn't notice, for some reason.

Posted by: Ace at 06:51 PM




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1 nice

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:51 PM (AkOaV)

2 also, kids table debate is on.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (AkOaV)

3 BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY SAY AMNESTY! THEY DON'T!!!!

Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (MZ8Zz)

4 They clean my pool & now my lawn!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (hrMUT)

5 Why, it's as if they are attempting to pull the wool over our eyes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (ptqRm)

6 3 BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY SAY AMNESTY! THEY DON'T!!!!
Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:52 PM (MZ8Zz)

el amnestio

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (AkOaV)

7 Why am I voting Republican again?

Posted by: T at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (NctcF)

8 Que?

Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 06:53 PM (EWg9n)

9 Ow my balls

Posted by: America at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (jb+28)

10 It's the old Yassar Arafat PLO trick. But instead of Arabic, it's Spanish.

Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (YFFpo)

11 This seems flaming skull worthy. I mean, this is Arafat type stuff.

Posted by: Jake at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (Vp/Ku)

12 It must be a translation deal...yeah that's it.

Posted by: nip at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (r73Jl)

13 That was the splainin'

Posted by: Rick E. Ricardo at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (FkBIv)

14 They learned this technique from Yassir Arafat.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (yLOuD)

15 Did he attack Trump at least?

Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (2Ocf1)

16 >>Why am I voting Republican again?
Posted by: T

Because you're a rube.

Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (c7vUv)

17 10 It's the old Yassar Arafat PLO trick. But instead of Arabic, it's Spanish.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (YFFpo)


Beat me to it. This is exactly what Arafat used to do.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (kpqmD)

18

It'll never stop getting worse until You Stop Voting For Republicans.

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (haxo2)

19 Unbeliebable

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (BO/km)

20 the losers debate is embarrassing. Fiorina should have followed Rand's lead and bowed out. There is no purpose for this debate any longer.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (2x3L+)

21 I don't see the problem.

Posted by: zombie Yasser Arafat at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (H9MG5)

22 It must be a translation deal...yeah that's it.

Posted by: nip

It's more common than you think.

Posted by: Pope Franky Says Relax at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (jb+28)

23 >>It'll never stop getting worse until You Stop Voting For Republicans.

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes

Don't listen to this imposter.

Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (c7vUv)

24 I'll say it again, Nikko Halio is starting to look like Geraldine Ferraro.

Which is quite common for female pols. They all eventually get squinty and pinched in the face, from too much flinching from the balls constantly socking them on the chin, no doubt.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (TOk1P)

25 That's almost as bad a translation as "all your base are belong to us."

Posted by: Titanium at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (u9UgT)

26 19 Unbeliebable
Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 06:55 PM (BO/km)

What does a Canadian pop singer have to do with this?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (kpqmD)

27 20
I think the point is to run for vice president.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 06:56 PM (iHjB5)

28 >>> It'll never stop getting worse until You Stop Voting For Republicans.

Cruz and Trump are Republicans.

Hard times ahead.

Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (AfsKp)

29 The GOP is just running out of ways to lie to us in English.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (oVJmc)

30 It'll never stop getting worse until You Stop Voting For Republicans.

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes

Don't listen to this imposter.
Posted by: Jeb!

There's only one way to settle this: get me Mrs. Bush and a sword.

Posted by: King Solomon at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (jb+28)

31 Yeah, I saw this yesterday. But the media won't say much about it so there's not much to do or say about it.

Just remember who did it and who's looking to be given a majority again this year.

Not from me.

And the only way this works is to hold all of them accountable for all the rest of them.

Don't go voting for your guy because you think he's okay. If he voted once with the GOPe, he's GOPe and needs to go.

Otherwise it's just going to keep happening and we might as well accept it and get over it and quit bitching..

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (Xo1Rt)

32 offer a permanent and humane solution to those who live in the shadows

Who wouldn't want to return to their home country by air?

Posted by: the trebuchet gambit at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (dbDB8)

33 "Those who live in the shadows." My ass. If they live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own the fucking place?

Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo)

34 In more civil times, there would have been tar, feathers, and rails before now and by now we'd be arming, tossing stuff in harbors, and looking for sturdy trees.

Posted by: Damiano at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (XItbt)

35 These suckers of cock are just doing donuts on our lawns now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (kpqmD)

36 What did the French version say?


Ace?.......ace?

How do you say ace in French?

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (qUNWi)

37 Oooh. Santorum "I'm going to take some of Rand Pauls time here"

Oooh

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (AkOaV)

38 Just another faction of the Democratic party.

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (hk3Fb)

39 At the same time, that does not mean we just flat out open our borders.

I just get such a kick out of that line. It has to be one of the dumbest lines ever appearing in any political speech.

"At the same time" - meaning that what was just said is about to be lied about for effect.

""just flat out open our borders" - it took a real rocket surgeon to even come up with that.

...
...

... I'm still laughing ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (zc3Db)

40 That is not a translation; it is totally different wording.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (L2co/)

41 Didn't we spend the morning after the STFU address beating each other over the head about Nicki said this, no...she said that...but...but...but.


Motion on the floor to label the GOPe as a gravy sucking Siberian Snow Pig of a lying sack of crapweasels, and not to be trusted in either printed nor spoken word, nor deed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (ptqRm)

42
btw, in case you haven't heard, Republicans are once again whispering about creating a brokered convention in which *they select* the nominee.

But this time, the Republicans got smart and refined their devious plans and are now saying they are merely "preparing" for a "contested" convention, you see.



Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (haxo2)

43 My head had been fucking killing me all afternoon and this shit isn't helping.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (kpqmD)

44 How do you say ace in French?




Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM


Le Ace.

Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (EWg9n)

45 7 Why am I voting Republican again?
Posted by:
****


I dunno. I'm not. Unless it's Cruz. Or Trump just to stick it up their asses.

Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (MZ8Zz)

46 Jorge Ramos said he's speaks for all Hispanic people so they should just ask him who to vote for

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (hk3Fb)

47 And these simple fucks will sit and wonder why Trump is winning.

Fucking idiots, absolute idiots

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 14, 2016 06:59 PM (iFQuZ)

48 tu mientes

you lie

they really hate us voters, can't we just submit?

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (5Gpe2)

49 "Those who live in the shadows." My ass. If they
live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own
the fucking place?


Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo)


Yeah, not living in the shadows, instead they are leading the rallies welcoming the Los Angeles Ramos back from St. Louis.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (TOk1P)

50 36 What did the French version say?


Ace?.......ace?

How do you say ace in French?
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM (qUNWi)

Royale with fleas.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:00 PM (kpqmD)

51
Have we discovered yet if the Powerballs winner was an illegal?

Living in the shadows....collecting welfare...buying lottery tickets...

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (haxo2)

52 I left a discussion about underboobs and sideboobs for this?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (HgMAr)

53 Wow. Amazing. She gave a Nixonian level concession speech in two languages.

Looks like we won't have Haley to kick around anymore. Does she intend to give 'Checkers' back?

Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (fbovC)

54 Yeah, not living in the shadows, instead they are leading the rallies welcoming the Los Angeles Ramos back from St. Louis.
Posted by: BurtTC

Won't they be disappointed when they find out it's a football team and not a futboll team.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (jb+28)

55


btw, in case you haven't heard, Republicans are once again
whispering about creating a brokered convention in which *they select*
the nominee.


The Thad Cochran Stratagem.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (oVJmc)

56 >>>Those who live in the shadows." My ass. If they

live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own

the fucking place?




Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 06:57 PM (YFFpo) <<<




"Shadows" is Espanol for "Home Depot parking lot", esse.

Posted by: Handy Manny at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (H9MG5)

57 2 hour debate break and commercial marathon.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (AkOaV)

58
Won't they be disappointed when they find out it's a football team and not a futboll team.


The Rams? They're not even that.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (oVJmc)

59 Rubio does the same two-face act.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:03 PM (8ZskC)

60 Just sent this to my 7th Group SF buddy since this his currently his governor.

Asked him to translate.

He won't be happy.

Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:03 PM (48QDY)

61 First debate is over, and it's clear Marco Rubio won.

Posted by: GOPe talking heads at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (H9MG5)

62 "Those who live in the shadows..."

To be fair, standing on the pavement at the Home Depot all day long is cruel and unusual. There's shade behind the nursery section, and by the north wall next to that part of the parking lot.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (iIzG7)

63 Respect the rule of law by breaking it!

Posted by: that makes sense at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (dbDB8)

64 I suspect we'll all be yearning for shadows if Trump somehow gets elected. I predict open rioting in the southwest, possibly other areas, if wins. That will be before he even takes office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)

65 I mean, the local welfare office lobby where I used to work wasn't all that well lit, but I wouldn't go so far to say all those illegals waiting for their free shit were in the shadows.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (yLOuD)

66 Presione dos para Inglés

Posted by: Grump928(C) Calls the RNC at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (rwI+c)

67 This is the Beck debate right? I'm a loser baby, and just deal with it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (6Ll1u)

68 Those who live in the shadows." My ass. If they live in the shadows, how come I see them walking around like they own the fucking place?

Bad translation. I think he said "shade." They do hang out in the shade a lot, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (8ZskC)

69 Shadows" is Espanol for "Home Depot parking lot", esse.
Posted by: Handy Manny at January 14, 2016 07:02 PM (H9MG5)

Wrong. DSS, bitchez.

Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (48QDY)

70 Heh. Ace just called Guy Benson a GOPe type that needs to be destroyed.
I'm making popcorn.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (9iR5/)

71 It's probably different now but polls used to show that Hispanics were not crazy about amnesty.

It's just that they're anti-anti-illegals. They don't support it so much as they regard an attack as racial.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (Xd2w5)

72 I left a discussion about underboobs and sideboobs for this?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:01 PM (HgMAr)


It was a ridiculous discussion. It all depends on the particular boobs and there were no pics linked.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (zc3Db)

73 What's really amazing, is that they thought they could get away with it.

That NO ONE WOULD NOTICE. Even though we've caught the Palis doing shit like this.

That's what gets me. The total lack of respect. That they think they can just talk about us to our face and we won't do anything about it.

Are they correct?

Will you let them get away with this one more time?

Don't think about how your guy is okay and vote him back in. That's the problem we keep voting in "our guy" and they keep letting the GOPe shit all over us.

Vote for the libertarian, the independent write a candidate in.

If enough people did that, the results would be shocking.

At least vote for a Republican for President so as to keep any potential Democrat Congress from going crazy.

And that's what is at risk of course and they know it.

Well we need to stop being afraid of a Democrat Controlled Congress. Remember LIB? That's what will happen if they get control of Congress again.

Let the LIV's finally learn what happens when the people who do the work, stop.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:05 PM (Xo1Rt)

74 This seems flaming skull worthy. I mean, this is Arafat type stuff.
Posted by: Jake at January 14, 2016 06:54 PM (Vp/Ku)


At this point, I think the flaming skull should be reserved for when something actually good happens . . .

Not that I can, off the top of my head, conceive of anything actually good happening any time soon.

Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:06 PM (s5o+q)

75 Ignore those people behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful Ooze~!

*fireballs* *fireballs* *fireballs*

Posted by: Your Betters in the GOP at January 14, 2016 07:06 PM (AJ1u5)

76 Cruz and Trump are Republicans.

No. Only one of those two.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (Xd2w5)

77 The way you thank Warden is to post a Ramones tune in the body of the Thread.

Posted by: garrett at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (bpyiA)

78 I hate these post-nationalists.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 14, 2016 07:07 PM (OvUux)

79 "... the Los Angeles Ramos... "

I know him. Jorge Ramos. From East L.A.

There's a baseball team the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim." You get that name because they play down in Orange County. Seriously, what kind of Mickey Mouse outfit has its home in Anaheim.

So now, we're going to call our new team the "Los Angeles Rams of Inglewatts." That'll go over well.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (iIzG7)

80 Wow. Amazing. She gave a Nixonian level concession speech in two languages.

I wouldn't put the Diaz-Balert speech on her.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (Xd2w5)

81 When do we set up the guillotines in the town squares?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (jb+28)

82 Doublespeak motherfucker.

Posted by: steevy at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (8HTq1)

83 I suspect we'll all be yearning for shadows if Trump
somehow gets elected. I predict open rioting in the southwest, possibly
other areas, if wins. That will be before he even takes office.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)


Sounds Lincoln-esque.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (0NdlF)

84 sssshh. Nobody, they weel not eben notice thees.

Posted by: Mario Diaz-Balert at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (HgMAr)

85 No reason to worry! The House Freedom Caucus has won important concessions from Speaker Ryan like "no immigration reform as long as Obama is president". Arent you reassured?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (Gpls4)

86
Guy Benson is a piece of shit. Another one who pretends to pretend he's a Conservative.

Another Faux News sellout.

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (haxo2)

87 Calling Madame De LaFarge. Calling Madame De LaFarge.

Your chair and ball of yarn is waiting.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (Xo1Rt)

88 It was a ridiculous discussion. It all depends on the particular boobs and there were no pics linked.

Both sides should submit photographic evidence supporting their positions so a proper conclusion can be reached.

Posted by: tu3031 at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (YFFpo)

89 Nikki Haley is probably the biggest chump in the GOPe--and that is saying something.

And Paul Ryan--he's a fucking snake. He should be horsewhipped on the floor of the House or Reps.

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (o9lmn)

90 A benefit of Balkanization is that you can tailor your lies (or truths) to each special interest group and no one can figure it out!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (wYnyS)

91
"...and push the economy forward."
....................

Push? You mean like a lawn mower?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (HgMAr)

92 In the morning thread I wrote this

63 I think this might be a hot political topic today -- Conservative Treehouse has a piece on how Nikki's English version and the Spanish version of the SOTU response differed substantially (hint -- the Spanish version sounded much more amnesty-like)

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (gyKtp)

93 In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.

Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (s5o+q)

94 What? No undercard debate thread. I never watched it & just might watch the real debate, for first home, tonight.

Posted by: Carol at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (sj3Ax)

95 "A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish.

Posted by: Pixy and the Hamsters at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (2yngH)

96 Paul Ryan really is the Marco Rubio of the House.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (Gpls4)

97 I was just thinking I haven't found a reason in the last two hours and thirty-four minutes to despise the Republican establishment. Then boom, they come through. My laxatives should be so reliable.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (ppaKI)

98 Repubs are going to find a way to lose this thing.

Posted by: daninmichigan at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (2yD4G)

99 Anyone still clinging to the notion that were not fucked?

Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (e3bId)

100 And Paul Ryan--he's a fucking snake. He should be horsewhipped on the floor of the House or Reps.

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:09 PM (o9lmn)


Or at least a really good caning!

Posted by: Rep Preston Brooks at January 14, 2016 07:11 PM (wYnyS)

101 What? No undercard debate thread.


Carly one but, that face! I hate myself for it but Huckabee is likeable to me, like a jolly fat preacher.

I wouldn't choose him for President though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (rwI+c)

102 "... A permanent and humane solution... "

English translation: go the fvck home, and stay the fvck home. Permanently for you, and humane for me.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (iIzG7)

103 or won

either or

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (rwI+c)

104 95 Maybe we're putting them to sleep.

Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (e3bId)

105 95
One might even go so far as to say they are looking for one with some Finality to it.

Kind of a mixed message, no?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (iHjB5)

106 I'm tall! Vote for me!

Posted by: Jeb! at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (kpqmD)

107
Le Ace.


Mmmm......has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (qUNWi)

108 Nikki Haley is getting slammed on the twitters. I don't agree with all the attacks but... If you step out, be prepared to be stepped on.

Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (48QDY)

109 98 Repubs are going to find a way to lose this thing.

Explains this comment:

"I'd almost rather lose to Hillary and have 4 years to come up with someone better rather than put one of these people in office and lose the next election. "

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:12 PM (BO/km)

110 Have you seen your jardinero, standing in the shadow?

Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)

111 " "A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish."

We're talking euthanasia?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (ptqRm)

112


Le Ace.





Mmmm......has a nice ring to it.


Le Ace Wigs!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (oVJmc)

113 Fuck this guy in particular.

Posted by: Max Power at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (q177U)

114 Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (ppaKI)

Yes every time I think at least NOW they've reached the absolute limit of depravity, then the GOP manages to achieve new depths!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (wYnyS)

115 We're talking euthanasia?


Soylent Green.

Posted by: Grump928(C) calls for the Scoops at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (rwI+c)

116 Can we trust Think Progress to report this accurately?

Is there another source? A source that is not just repeating Think Progress?

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (q5uuT)

117 "Soylent Green."

And washed down with a cold cerveza.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (iIzG7)

118 Have you seen your jardinero, standing in the shadow?


Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)


He never did have all that big a role in The Beach Boys.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (JO9+V)

119 35 These suckers of cock are just doing donuts on our lawns now.

Si, but the lawns are trimmed at very low wages.

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (7qAYi)

120 The Liberals here do that all the time, Ace. Say one thing in the English version of a speech and something much different in the French version.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (DLIIY)

121 To summarize my response to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86csBSS4WHk

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (vBeA5)

122 115 We're talking euthanasia?


Soylent Green.
Posted by: Grump928(C) calls for the Scoops at January 14, 2016 07:14 PM (rwI+c)

-----------------------------------
You blew it all to hell!!

Sorry - wrong movie.

Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:15 PM (e3bId)

123
Bad translation. I think he said "shade." They do hang out in the shade a lot, you know.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (8ZskC)
.....................

Taking the siestas Americans won't take.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (HgMAr)

124 Give me your drunks, your terrorists,
Your horny Arabs yearning to cop a feel,
The fecund baby-mamas of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I hand out EBT cards beside the golden door!

Posted by: The GOPe at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (8ZskC)

125 114
They have money, cheap labor, and a whole lot of shovels. The core's the limit!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (iHjB5)

126 Folks, I know the argument is continually made that local party != national party.

Bollocks. The one feeds the other. Exhibit A: Marco Rubio.

Start hitting your local GOPers hard with this. As them how they can justify being part of a party that engages in such blatant dishonesty towards the very voters they ask to put them in office.

It has to be burned out by the roots or it will keep coming back.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (m9V0o)

127 --le ace

if ace had a Le Car, that would make a good license plate.

Posted by: garrett at January 14, 2016 07:17 PM (bpyiA)

128 Can anyone fathom what these idiots in the GOP are trying to accomplish? It's incoherent.

Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2016 07:17 PM (e3bId)

129 Le Car was Le Limon

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (Xo1Rt)

130 "A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish.

It gets worse:

"a permanent and humane solution to those who live in the shadows,
respect the rule of law, modernize the visa system and push the economy
forward."

So they want a permanent "solution" to people who are
- rule respecting
- economy pushing

Illegal aliens don't do either, since they abuse welfare and violate this country's laws. That leaves the law-abiding citizens, who are overshadowed by illegals, yet follow the law and do the work that keeps the economy going.

That's who they want a "permanent solution" for.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (0NdlF)

131 Posted by: The GOPe at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (8ZskC)

I love a poetry thread!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (wYnyS)

132 That's pretty funny. An Ewok driving a Le Car. Too bad they all rusted away.

The cars not the Ewok.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (BO/km)

133 and Maria Bartiromo is looking... delightful this evening.

But why do her eyes water so? Does she have a Fox flunky put drops in those big hazels at every break?

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (o9lmn)

134 "Can anyone fathom what these idiots in the GOP are trying to accomplish?"

Protecting their phoney-baloney jobs.
--- Gov. LePetomaine

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (iIzG7)

135
Have you seen your jardinero, standing in the shadow?
Posted by: otho at January 14, 2016 07:13 PM (EWg9n)
.....................

Yes, and I told him to put on a fucking sombrero and get back to work.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (HgMAr)

136 "Anyone still clinging to the notion that we're not fucked?"

Nope, we are screwed, blued, and soon to be tattooed, after reading on Breitbart, a link to Times Of Israel quoting the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander who publicly stated they were prepared (had missile lock on) to sink the USS Truman (an aircraft carrier in the area.)

Iran or China is going to sink a carrier before Obama leaves the White House, and then what?

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 14, 2016 07:19 PM (q5uuT)

137
Illegal aliens don't do either, since they abuse
welfare and violate this country's laws. That leaves the law-abiding
citizens, who are overshadowed by illegals, yet follow the law and do
the work that keeps the economy going.

That's who they want a "permanent solution" for.


Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (0NdlF)

That doesn't even begin to cover the drunk driving and the kidnappings.
Google "hispanic kidnapping" and soak yourself in the glories of diversity.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:20 PM (4ErVI)

138 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (iHjB5)

I just hope they can speak some Chinese, because that's where they're heading!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 14, 2016 07:20 PM (wYnyS)

139 Le Car was Le Limon


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:18 PM (Xo1Rt)

Luxury! We wished we had something as nice as a Le Car.

Posted by: The Four East Germans at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (JO9+V)

140 Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 14, 2016 07:16 PM (m9V0o)

Well put. And I'll be making the call

Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (FO+wW)

141 The GOPe never misses an opportunity to step on their dicks.

I cannot fathom how tone deaf they are. I mean at this point they are trying to through Rubio under the bus to give the Jeb! a 'comeback' boost before the first round of primaries.

The consultant class is a bunch of fucking traitors and should have their passports yanked. Don't let them jet off to some resort to escape the mess they've created.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (r6ujM)

142 I remember the good old says, when people said "the optimist is learning Russian; the pessimist is learning Chinese."

It's starting to look like we should be taking us Farsi.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (iIzG7)

143 136--Iran or China is going to sink a carrier before Obama leaves the White House, and then what?


Secretariat Kerry to apologize profusely, followed by much congratulation for avoiding conflict!

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (o9lmn)

144 >> He never did have all that big a role in The Beach Boys.

He did write two great songs they recorded "California Saga Part 3" and Lady Lynda.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (nSW/N)

145 I know him. Jorge Ramos. From East L.A.

There's
a baseball team the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim." You get that name
because they play down in Orange County. Seriously, what kind of Mickey
Mouse outfit has its home in Anaheim.

So now, we're going to call our new team the "Los Angeles Rams of Inglewatts." That'll go over well.


Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:08 PM (iIzG7)


Inglewatts... is that a bad area? Really, all I know is from doing a google streetview on the site. For all I know the area could be like Beverly Hills.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (TOk1P)

146 My favorite bourbon was not on sale today. Sad face.

I can't deal with more debates.

Posted by: Lea at January 14, 2016 07:22 PM (428I9)

147 Iran or China is going to sink a carrier before Obama leaves the White House, and then what?
Posted by: Benson, C.46

With hostages you get egg roll.

Posted by: Red China at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (jb+28)

148 The GOPe never misses an opportunity to step on their dicks.


Take them seriously. They've declared themselves to be your enemy.

And that's why the GOPe must die. Not reform, not "win this election". The party must be burned, the ashes scattered, and the ground salted.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (0NdlF)

149 Seen today on Twitter: a picture of Alan Rickman. Caption: "I'm going to an exclusive Bowie concert tonight, and you're not."

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (iIzG7)

150 If Trump or Cruz make it as winner of the primary, Reince Preibus and his merry band of conspirators and saboteurs best be seeking Witness Protection status. Seriously.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 14, 2016 07:23 PM (DCV+N)

151
If you care about the baby table debate, and be honest -- you don't, The WaPo has a complete live transcript going:

http://tinyurl.com/zvt8w87

Which is pretty impressive

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (kdS6q)

152 146 My favorite bourbon was not on sale today. Sad face.

I can't deal with more debates.

Model airplane glue is cheap & plentiful.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)

153 I will NOT be voting for another amnesty shill.

Period. Full. Stop.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (g8Hfr)

154 This is what the lefties never understand.

When you act weak and indecisive, the strong and decisive will take advantage.

This means that they will do things they wouldn't if they thought you'd respond with a missile and not John Effin Kerry.

So they keep nudging and nudging until finally one dimwit goes to far and then the US has to do something because if they don't they will be taken advantage of by others that aren't quite so powerful and it piles on.

Remember Carter? And all he did was get elected right before the Mullahs decided that he was a weak and ineffectual idiot. And they were correct.

Now Obama's doing the same stupid stuff and remarkably with the same group of assholes.

Jeesus people. Read an effin history book now and then.

A good one. Not one of those put out for high school kids. A real one with facts in it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (Xo1Rt)

155 Is it supposed to be a translation?

The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.

Posted by: Harun at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (UBBWX)

156
ace, I believe TrivialPursuer and perhaps one other (forget nick) mentioned and linked this earlier today - just to be fair.

Also - you sound angry, as though you lack compassion. There's even a tinge of outrage in your approach. Now, now, join the smart kids. Let's not be the loud voice in this, OK?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (QDnY+)

157 116 Benson, here is Conservative Treehouse's take on it:

http://tinyurl.com/zt2pxrw

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (gyKtp)

158 I decided today that I am voting for Trump.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)

159 Inglewatts... is that a bad area? Really, all I know is from doing a google streetview on the site. For all I know the area could be like Beverly Hills.


Inglewood -8
Watts -10

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (8ZskC)

160 "Iran or China is going to -TRY TO- sink a carrier before Obama leaves the White House"

The admiral in command will respond in an ass kicking fashion and find themselves relieved of command as part of Barry's and Kerry's apology to the aggressor nation state the next day.

At least unless congress has enough stones (HA HA HA) to declare war before Obama can respond.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (r6ujM)

161 Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2016 07:21 PM (r6ujM)

Sorta like the Sir Shankalot. At some point you have to get past ineptitude and move on to willful.

Posted by: Golfman at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (FO+wW)

162 >>>44 How do you say ace in French?




Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2016 06:58 PM


Le Ace.

...

I think it's L'As.

Posted by: ace at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (dciA+)

163 That was similar to when John Roberts said he would respect the Constitution, and Paul Ryan said he'd fight big government, both in Washington DC native language, but both came out "Fuck You" in English.

Posted by: Roy at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (fWLrt)

164 Those who rightly don't trust Think Progress, the Miami Herald has the translation.

http://tinyurl.com/hwgep9k

Posted by: Warden at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (MZ8Zz)

165
"A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish."
..................

La deportacion completa? Works for me.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (HgMAr)

166 I decided today that I am voting for Trump.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)


Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (8ZskC)

167 "Inglewatts... is that a bad area?"

There are good parts of Inglewood, and there are others. Check out the first ten minutes of Kevin Kline's "Grand Canyon," and you'll see what happens when your car breaks down in a bad part of Inglewood.

Hence, Inglewatts.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (iIzG7)

168 Is it supposed to be a translation?


The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.


Narrative reframe, eh?

Too little, too late.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (0NdlF)

169 I thought Le Car wrote spy novels.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (FkBIv)

170
Fiorina was asked whether, in an effort to fight the Islamic State, she would accept an alliance with Russia and Iran. She said no, and added that the United States must stick by Saudi Arabia in its ongoing tensions with Iran.

"Saudi Arabia is our ally, and Iran is our adversary," Fiorina said after offering a list of Middle Eastern allies whose leaders she knew personally.




Our Saudi ally. Let that just sit there for a moment.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (kdS6q)

171 I think it's L'As.

Posted by: ace at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (dciA+)



And we have a threadwinner!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:27 PM (8ZskC)

172 You know, the "World at War" series has it's problems, but it is not bad. It is on Amazon Prime for free. I wish they could clean up the video a bit, though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2016 07:27 PM (iHjB5)

173 Friend on facebutt always puts up a "Mexican Word of the Day"

Today's word is: "Harassment".

"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (3myMJ)

174 165
"A permanent and humane solution?" I hope that sounds better in Spanish."
..................

La deportacion completa? Works for me.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (HgMAr)

Arbeit macht frijoles.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (kpqmD)

175 I decided today that I am voting for Trump.

Welcome to the party, pal


What if he says something really absurd? What would it take for you to change your mind? I think I'd give him plenty of room but he could still blow it.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (BO/km)

176 I just love this blog, and it's big brown ace.

Posted by: Pepe Le Pew at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (H9MG5)

177 French: L'As de Pique

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:28 PM (iIzG7)

178 Al Jardine did own a sweet lil' deuce coupe. Sold it at auction a few years back.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (JO9+V)

179 Posted by: ace at January 14, 2016 07:25 PM (dciA+)

Good job Ace. Why don't you take the rest of the day Off?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (Xo1Rt)

180 168 Is it supposed to be a translation?


The person who gave it says its just their own version of the rebuttal to the SOTU.


Narrative reframe, eh?

Too little, too late.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:26 PM (0NdlF)

Bullshit. That was coordinated.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 14, 2016 07:29 PM (kpqmD)

181
Earlier, Fiorina had denounced both GOP front-runner Donald Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton as examples of "crony capitalism."



"As I was doing the backstroke, swimming up the corporate fish ladder at ATT while banging my boss...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2016 07:30 PM (kdS6q)

182 If you think of the world as being accurately depicted in the book Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the GOP can then be accurately described as the Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:30 PM (s5o+q)

183 Rubio was the first to try this dumb stunt, and it was easily detected, and it blew up in his face, and caused him enough damage politically that his primary poll standing has never recovered.

What does it say about the political acumen of Lyin' Ryan, his sockpuppet Nikki Haley-Barbour, and the GOP consultantocracy, that they thought they could (a) pull the same stunt, (b) not have it be detected, and (c) not be damaging if detected?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 14, 2016 07:31 PM (noWW6)

184 "If you think of the world as being accurately depicted in the book Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

That's it! Hillary is part Vogon.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (iIzG7)

185 And this is exactly why there shouldnt be a spanish version of anything political in this country: If citizens are supposed to hold their representatives accountable, they must understand them.

First Rubio pulls this crap to sell his amnesty bill and now the GOP uses it nonchalant in the SOTU rebuttal. Unbelievable.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (Gpls4)

186 What if he says something really absurd? What would it take for you to change your mind?

Not voting for Trump, I'm voting against the GOPe. Just like I used to vote against the Democrats.

So to change my mind, give me a candidate who will not only burn down the GOP, but sodomize its corpse.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (0NdlF)

187 Criminals never think about what will happen if they get caught.

That's why most laws dont' deter crime.


And in the case of the GOPe it doesn't deter stupidity.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (Xo1Rt)

188 >>> Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

Don't recall that part. Did they get a ride of Golgafricham Ark 'B'?

Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (AfsKp)

189 Today's word is: "Harassment".

"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."


Mushroom.

http://tinyurl.com/hjcc6nc

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (8ZskC)

190
It is now quite clear that the Republican party wants to (and has been) position themselves as the moderate alternative to the Democrat party.

They stand for nothing. Republicans are everything you want from the Democrat party but with the volume set to "5" instead of "11."

Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (haxo2)

191 64 I suspect we'll all be yearning for shadows if Trump somehow gets elected. I predict open rioting in the southwest, possibly other areas, if wins. That will be before he even takes office.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:04 PM (4ErVI)


Nah, that could never happen.

Posted by: A. Lincoln at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

192 Rightwing news outlets???

Posted by: In Exile at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (Z7AXG)

193 I think instead of calling them "undocumented immigrants" or "illegal aliens," we need some term that focuses on the fact that they ARE citizens -- of other countries. Countries with presidents and governments who ARE obligated to protect their God-given rights. "Citizens of other countries illegally residing in America," something like that.

COOCIRIA.

I'll work on it.

Posted by: iforgot at January 14, 2016 07:34 PM (kKokP)

194 What they want is the parliamentary system.

Since they can't get that legally, they're going for "who you going to vote for?" and then getting together with the Dems to do whatever it is they're masters wish.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:35 PM (Xo1Rt)

195 Okay, how about "citizens of shitty countries that need revolutions."

COSCTNR.

I'll work on it.

Posted by: iforgot at January 14, 2016 07:35 PM (kKokP)

196
Arbeit macht frijoles.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016
.......................

Frijoles macht frei.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:36 PM (HgMAr)

197 That's it! Hillary is part Vogon.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 07:32 PM (iIzG7)


Nah.

Vogons aren't alcoholic nor do they scissor...

Posted by: Deep Thought at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (vBeA5)

198
"My girlfriend caught me in bed with another women and I told her harrassment nothing to me."
......................

Then why were you doing butt stuff with her?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (HgMAr)

199 You know all that money the illegals send home to Mexico? Remittances they call them.


We'll just seize all that money and give it to the vets and the families of the killed service members and the families of people killed by illegals.


It's because you squatted here and enjoyed the protection they provided to you. It's also a tax for all the misery you've caused. And now that you've paid it, leave.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (4ErVI)

200 Frijoles macht frei.
Posted by: wth

I thought potatoes made fries.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (jb+28)

201 If they live in the shadows,

There's perfectly good lights at our embassies in there home countries, right by the sign which says Line starts here.

Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (DL2i+)

202 Huh... I hadn't noticed this until Lou Dobbs just mentioned it.

Our 10 sailors got released.

In unrelated news, I am sure, 10 GITMO terrorists were released today.

Surely this is a coincidence.

Posted by: Damiano at January 14, 2016 07:37 PM (XItbt)

203 If Trumpy pisses me off I'm voting for Dack.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:38 PM (BO/km)

204 It is now quite clear that the Republican party
wants to (and has been) position themselves as the moderate alternative
to the Democrat party.



They stand for nothing. Republicans are everything you want from the
Democrat party but with the volume set to "5" instead of "11."





Posted by: Jeb Bush On His Tippy Toes at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (haxo2)


They've positioned themselves a millimeter to the right of the Democrats, in the vain hope that they can siphon off everything that isn't in the far left.

Those of us that aren't the far left see only two totalitarian Big Government parties. Isn't this America? Shouldn't we have a choice in how our government is run?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (HalrA)

205 Holy pork roast Batman, they're really is a Siberian Snow Pig.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Siberian_pig


Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (DL2i+)

206 The GOP is a useless pile of junk.

It's no longer a legitimate political party, certainly at the federal level.

They are in fact our real enemies.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (uWjKl)

207 158 I decided today that I am voting for Trump.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)

It was the take their coats line wasn't it?

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 14, 2016 07:39 PM (3dOE/)

208 Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.

And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)

209 I you really wanna piss them off, vote Cruz. They will arrange themselves with Trump.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (Gpls4)

210 It's OK, Mario Diaz-Balert is Cuban, and a member of the extended Castro family.

Posted by: Burt Toast at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (T78UI)

211 I'm the Duke of Pork.

Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig at January 14, 2016 07:42 PM (AfsKp)

212 "158 I decided today that I am voting for Trump."

Welcome to the big tent!!
TRUMP 2016!

Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (6Xbsz)

213 208
Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.

And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)


At this point, we either build the wall or cease to be the USA inside of two decades. A vote for more "electronic fence" and "pathway" chicanery is a vote to turn the country solid blue with motor voter laws, and let the Democrats have an unopposed supermajority forever.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (HalrA)

214 The Arafatization of the GOP.

Posted by: Croms Dirty Underpants at January 14, 2016 07:43 PM (xudgf)

215 188 >>> Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

Don't recall that part. Did they get a ride of Golgafricham Ark 'B'?
Posted by: fluffy at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (AfsKp)


The first ones up against the wall when the revolution comes.

Posted by: filbert at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (s5o+q)

216 I imagine you mean *major* right-wing outlets but there is a blog that goes by the name of Conservative Treehouse or Treehouse Conservative that had the story up the next day IIRC.

Granted, the establishment douchenozzles still think no one would notice.

Posted by: Arcadehero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (nwQ+G)

217 I thought the big tent is what Hillary's pantsuits are made of.

Posted by: confused at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (dbDB8)

218 Frijoles macht frei.
Posted by: wth

I thought potatoes made fries.
Posted by: Joe Biden


The French make fries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (FkBIv)

219 Can we all just agree the 'media' is a government propaganda arm designed to misinform the people? Read '1984' by George Orwell for goodness sake.

Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)

220 The Arafatization of the GOP.

So when does the buggering of little boys part of the program start? Cuz I may switch parties.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (8ZskC)

221 The Arafatization of the GOP.

Is that why Ryan was sporting a beard for a while?

He looked kinda Muslimish.

He shaved it off because of Laura Ingraham (or his wife).

He's still and asshole though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (Xo1Rt)

222 This post is a day late, was well covered yesterday, why you everyone was laughing spin attempts yesterday?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (MbrzC)

223 I'm the Duke of Pork.
Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig

C'mere, I have something to show you.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Earl of Sandwich at January 14, 2016 07:45 PM (jb+28)

224 Today was the final straw for me, with the Republican establishment spitting in my face and that of every legal citizen.

I don't know what, if anything, could change my mind now.

If there is rioting over him being the candidate or being elected, better now than before the numbers are even more lopsided than they are currently.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (W+Itt)

225 I'm starting to wonder if, some time around 30 or 40 years ago, liberals groomed young stealth candidates to run as the republicans we see today.

Posted by: weew at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (O1uuu)

226 "217 I thought the big tent is what Hillary's pantsuits are made of."

No that is the Big Vent. She didn't get a needed stitch or two after having Chelsea.

Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (6Xbsz)

227
208
Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.

And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
.........................

He has one job.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (HgMAr)

228 219
Can we all just agree the 'media' is a government propaganda arm
designed to misinform the people? Read '1984' by George Orwell for
goodness sake.


Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)


The Framers never imagined the day when a half-dozen people would own all major media, essentially trading the freedom of the press for being a state media arm in the service of a totalitarian regime that rewards them as its lackeys.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (HalrA)

229 Aside from the wall, Trump's support for the vets and taking care of them is a compelling reason to support the man. He's been constant on that too.


It's why criticizing John McCain cost him nothing. McCain has been in government for decades and could've made the vets his signature issue. Instead it's been scandal after scandal with the VA and McCain does nothing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:46 PM (4ErVI)

230 219 Can we all just agree the 'media' is a government propaganda arm designed to misinform the people? Read '1984' by George Orwell for goodness sake.
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 07:44 PM (b+df9)


As I never tire of saying, the Soviet media told lies and spread propaganda for fear of being sent to the gulag. The American media do it willingly.

Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (sdi6R)

231 Cruz not reporting that Goldman Sachs loan is dirty.

Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!




Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)

232 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (KCxzN)

233 Is that why Ryan was sporting a beard for a while?


He thought it would look good to go with his new image but he found out that that he looked like a putz. So he shaved it off and now he looks like a naked putz.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (BO/km)

234 208 Trump had me at BUILD THE WALL.

And until or unless he relents on that, he cannot disappoint me.

People should start bringing bricks to his rallies.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (7qAYi)

235 193 - I call them "Gimme-grants" Pretty much sums them up....

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at January 14, 2016 07:48 PM (0kOJG)

236 96 Paul Ryan really is the Marco Rubio of the House.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 14, 2016 07:10 PM (Gpls4)
---

Apt

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (MbrzC)

237 >>I thought the big tent is what Hillary's pantsuits are made of.

Want to see the ridge pole?

Posted by: Hillary at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (c7vUv)

238 231
Cruz not reporting that Goldman Sachs loan is dirty.

Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!




Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)


I think it's safe to say that there's significant trust issues with both Cruz and Trump. Cruz also backed the TPP, which was one of Obama's "pass it to find out what's in it" shit sandwiches.

Given the choice between two candidates who *might* put a knife in our back, and no other alternatives who haven't promised to stab us in the front already, you may as well vote for the more popular one who isn't beholden to the money machines.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 14, 2016 07:49 PM (HalrA)

239 I decided today that I am voting for Trump.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:24 PM (W+Itt)

I'm almost there...

Posted by: Max Power at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (q177U)

240 People should start bringing bricks to his rallies.

I can just read next week's news:

"In retrospect, the combination of Trump supporters and bricks was bound to be problematic."

Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (74ZYB)

241 Hope that bitch dies of a yeast infection

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (voOPb)

242 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (voOPb)

Too many to choose from. You must be more specific.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

243 I believe he alone, of all the candidates, WILL build a wall and address the problem head on.

If for no other reason, his ego will not let him back down or backtrack on this.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (W+Itt)

244 Hello, Sandwich, old chap. How goes it?

Posted by: Lord Douchebag at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (DLIIY)

245 "Holy pork roast Batman, they're really is a Siberian Snow Pig."

Why...why do people doubt me?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (ptqRm)

246 The "Goldman loan" (aka "accessing margin") will likely resonate w/ folks who don't know what a brokerage account is, but nobody else.

It's just one more pile of Trump's redherring horseshit.

Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (NiHAc)

247 Ewoks get yeast infections?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)

248 If Trump is elected he will let us down. I have no doubt about that. But at least he will not be the typical lying piece of f*cking shit weasel republican we have come to know & hate

The GOPe asked for it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (voOPb)

249 Duke of Earl.

Posted by: Duke of prunes at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (FkBIv)

250 Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (BO/km)

251 The Cruz Goldman Sachs thing is silly, he borrowed against a brokerage account just like everyone can do. He wasn't required to disclose it, and he's asked the FEC for a ruling on it.

Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (74ZYB)

252 Oh. Hillary.
Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)

253 Frijoles macht frei.
Posted by: wth

I thought potatoes made fries.
Posted by: Joe Biden

The French make fries.


John has a tall bottle of ketchup ...

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (AoK0a)

254
>>>Cruz not reporting that Goldman Sachs loan is dirty.
Everyone earlier was saying "nothing to see here about his wife working there, she's a sweet lady!!! Don't bring it up again!!!!
Posted by: Kal at January 14, 2016 07:47 PM (A3kYV)<<<




Good job, Kal (Penn). Now come back to bed... Lil Barry is getting cold.

Posted by: SCOAMF at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (H9MG5)

255 The chair is upstairs.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (Xo1Rt)

256 >>The Cruz Goldman Sachs thing is silly

It's not called the Silly Season for nothing.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (/tuJf)

257 I believe he alone, of all the candidates, WILL build a wall and address the problem head on.


If for no other reason, his ego will not let him back down or backtrack on this.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (W+Itt)



It's in his interest to succeed; whereas it has been in the interests of the GOPe to fail and make empty promises about next time.

It's worth a shot.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 07:54 PM (0NdlF)

258 Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.

Just another brick in the wall ...

Posted by: Pink ... at January 14, 2016 07:55 PM (AoK0a)

259 Mortimer Duke.

Posted by: Louis Winthorpe III at January 14, 2016 07:55 PM (dbDB8)

260 Hell I'd buy 100 or so.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (BO/km)

261 10 high risk detainees from Gitmo transferred to Oman today. A couple of days ago, Oman finally completed a deal with the US for TOW missile systems that they've been wanting for a while. Quid pro quo?

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (9iR5/)

262 Peter Beinart was on CNN saying the Goldman Sachs thing proves that Cruz is owned by the top tenth of one percenters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (FkBIv)

263 Now is the winter of our discontent.

Posted by: Horatius at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (J3UIw)

264 They could build a section of the wall out of the corpses of the motherfockers who spent $5 billion on a farking website that doesn't work. Thieving bastards.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (4ErVI)

265 >>The Cruz Goldman Sachs thing is silly

It's not called the Silly Season for nothing.


There will be STRING ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (AoK0a)

266 I guess I'm going libertarian all the way, because the current establishment Republicans are worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Guy Who Thinks Things are Worse than Hitler at January 14, 2016 07:57 PM (vxQr6)

267 Most people use margin as overdraft protection, so... I too am owned by the top 1/10th of the 1%!

Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (NiHAc)

268 They could build a section of the wall out of the corpses of the motherfockers who spent $5 billion on a farking website that doesn't work. Thieving bastards.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

Who do you think is going to build the wall?

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (jb+28)

269 240 People should start bringing bricks to his rallies.

I can just read next week's news:

"In retrospect, the combination of Trump supporters and bricks was bound to be problematic."

Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2016 07:50 PM (74ZYB)
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That's one way to discourage protestors taking up slots at the packed house rallies.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (MbrzC)

270 I'm getting pretty good at predicting how stupid something I'm about to put in a comment is.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (Xo1Rt)

271 The lunatic is in the hall.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (FkBIv)

272
Too many to choose from. You must be more specific.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:52 PM (Xo1Rt)
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Took the words right out of my keyboard.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (MbrzC)

273
Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.
.................

They make wonderful gifts.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (HgMAr)

274 the current establishment Republicans are worse than Hitler


Not at golf!

Posted by: the current establishment Republicans at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (BO/km)

275 @268 Kathleen Sebelius?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (voOPb)

276 Holy pork roast Batman, they're really is a Siberian Snow Pig."



Why...why do people doubt me?


Get some recipes for the Food Thread.

Posted by: DaveA at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (DL2i+)

277 270
I'm getting pretty good at predicting how stupid something I'm about to put in a comment is.




Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (Xo1Rt)

A button that says delete before posting would be the most used thing on the site.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (4ErVI)

278 For some reasion, I am reminded of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs

Posted by: The Pappa Hat at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (vBeA5)

279 It's rather early in the year for begonias to be blossoming.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (DLIIY)

280 I'm hoping for death strips. On the US side only and after 2 high walls with razor wire in between.

If you're that up or prepared for that, then a .50 cal will have to do the clean up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (Xo1Rt)

281 Trump isn't going to build a wall, he's pulling the same con Rs pulled during the Bush years https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

And even if he were telling the truth, which he's not, no wall is going to get funding from either an R or D congress.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)

282 Kathleen Sebelius?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

She's one of them. But she has a weak back, so she'll need extra whipping.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (jb+28)

283 Quid pro quo?

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 07:56 PM (9iR5/)
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gee you think?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (MbrzC)

284 275
@268 Kathleen Sebelius?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:00 PM (voOPb)

No Kathy you don't get the water jug today because you shit your pants in the tent last night. Them's the rules. Now get back to work.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (4ErVI)

285 I'd like to see a ARE YOU SURE? message before posting.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (Xo1Rt)

286 In a 2-way Trump v. Cruz race, Cruz wins easily, per the new NBC/WSJ poll. And of couurse, Cruz runs outside the MOE against Hillary, unlike Dr. Screwloose from Toulouse.

Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (NiHAc)

287 While I'm sure the loan was perfectly legal, Cruz's ties to Goldman Sachs have been concerning me for a long time, and make me suspect he's not as much of an outsider as he portrays himself.

Goldman Sachs also contributed heavily to Obama. They have a knack for getting their way no matter which party is in power.

Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

288 @282 she needs it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (voOPb)

289 let it burn!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (0O7c5)

290 Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 14, 2016 07:58 PM (FkBIv)

Yeah ... but she has a security detail with a dim view of letting you put a straight jacket on her ...

Bill might get a chuckle, though ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (AoK0a)

291 273
Maybe they could sell sponsorships for bricks / blocks in the wall. Get one with your name on it. Or for someone else. Or a company could buy a whole block of blocks and put their name on it.
.................

They make wonderful gifts.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 07:59 PM (HgMAr)
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Sounds like Adopt-A-Highway
Adopt-A-Wall-Section

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:03 PM (MbrzC)

292 IMO Cruz has more problems with citizenship issue than loan issue. I hate all campaign finance regs because of this kind of thing. Byzantine, subjective, designed to make all guilty so they can be conveniently accused, smeared as politics dictate.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at January 14, 2016 08:04 PM (RtG9B)

293 Adopt-A-Wall-Section


Adopt-A-Brick.

Yours could be gold-plated!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (0NdlF)

294 no wall is going to get funding from either an R or D congress.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)
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You should of heard by now who's going to pay for it.

Posted by: The Donald at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (MbrzC)

295 Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)

Actually, I believe the money is there but the Traitor In Chief won't make it a priority so it's not getting done.

I think he's not quite got the same outlet as the GOPe does about the illegal alien problem.

It's a problem for the country both politically and economically and we can't exist much longer as the US without securing out borders.

That the GOPe is willing to ignore that just for the possibility that they might garner a few more votes is treasonous on their part.

We shall see.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (Xo1Rt)

296 @282 she needs it
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Moochelle, on the other hand, looks strong. She should last several weeks before dropping.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (jb+28)

297 Oh for Chissake, accessing margin?

I mean really????

Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 08:05 PM (NiHAc)

298 Rule of Law people.......we don't have it and we want it.

Or no country.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2016 08:06 PM (ej1L0)

299 outlook not outlet and I wasn't clear there when I started talking about what Trump thinks.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:06 PM (Xo1Rt)

300 And even if he were telling the truth, which he's not, no wall is going to get funding from either an R or D congress.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)

Just use an executive order using the entire funding of the Department of Education as a bloc grant for vocational training in wall building at the border. If that's not enough, issue another one taking the budget of the EPA and issuing it as a bloc grant to monitor the environmental impact of building a huge fucking wall at the border.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (4ErVI)

301 Ewoks get yeast infections?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2016 07:53 PM (DLIIY)


Trust me it's bad. Looks like a Boston cream doughnut.

Posted by: Wicket at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (cmE8J)

302 The problems we have will never resolve by themselves, or ever be easier to solve than they are today.

It is time to face them head on.

There isn't a prayer of that happening with any other candidate.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (W+Itt)

303 Speaking of GOP outlets, Faux News mouthpiece O'Blowhard is broadcasting that deporting illegals is impossible, as Dana PreRino nods sagely.

the GOPE is the enemy.

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)

304 Just use an executive order using the entire funding of the Department of Education as a bloc grant for vocational training in wall building at the border


See! Dack's my backup. Newsletter please.

Posted by: freaked at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (BO/km)

305 Posted by: Wicket at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (cmE8J)


*pulls out waistband, looks down*

Does this look infected to you?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (Xo1Rt)

306 At a joint session of Congress:


We need money for the wall and we're a little short. Since you guys have been dicking around, empty your pockets, all of you.

What? Screw you we're leaving.

No you're not. The doors are chained shut from the outside. Now give until it hurts.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (4ErVI)

307
You should of heard by now who's going to pay for it.
Posted by: The Donald
........................

If your Mexican friends don't come through you could appoint freaked as your Wall Czar. He has some great marketing ideas.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (HgMAr)

308 gee you think?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (MbrzC)
I really didn't think I needed the sarc tag. My bad.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (9iR5/)

309 303 Speaking of GOP outlets, Faux News mouthpiece O'Blowhard is broadcasting that deporting illegals is impossible, as Dana PreRino nods sagely.

the GOPE is the enemy.

Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)
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So basically the same as every other night on O'Blowhard. Gotcha.

Posted by: The Donald at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (MbrzC)

310 Let me be clear, my position is to round up current and former members of the Oministration, put them in forced labor camps to build the border wall, and dump their bodies in the Rio Grande when they die of exhaustion.

Make checks out to Committee to "Elect The Impaler 2016".

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+28)

311
I really didn't think I needed the sarc tag. My bad.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:10 PM (9iR5/)
Nor did I, my bad.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (MbrzC)

312 So living in Mexico is inhumane?

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (KlVdw)

313 It's the giggle translator SW

Posted by: Dickie Betts fan at January 14, 2016 08:13 PM (aUQgu)

314 The GOPe has to destroy Cruz, because he is the only one who can win. And he is the only one who understands the Constitution. He's gotta go just like the Tea Party's gotta go. They hate us.

Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2016 08:13 PM (b+df9)

315 So living in Mexico is inhumane?
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 14, 2016 08:12 PM (KlVdw)

Well, it is insanitary in places.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:14 PM (Xo1Rt)

316 The plot thickens. Paul Kirk, former DNC Chair, endorses...


Teh Bern!

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:16 PM (3myMJ)

317 Citizens Of Countries Knowingly Sending Undesirables to Countries with Kindness, Riches, and Silliness.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (m9V0o)

318 they're not 'in the shadows'


they're in the fricken line at the Publix deli--and cutting the grass outside

Posted by: John Stuart Moop at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (8CdUx)

319 For your viewing pleasure or pain:

Live stream of debate link from Fox Business News Debate:

http://tinyurl.com/jls7vsv

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:17 PM (Xo1Rt)

320 "In a 2-way Trump v. Cruz race, Cruz wins easily, per the new NBC/WSJ poll. And of couurse, Cruz runs outside the MOE against Hillary, unlike Dr. Screwloose from Toulouse."

I saw that poll. Comes from the same place where people cannot figure out why Trump is destroying everyone.

Listen, when Cruz can fill a Waffle House from some of the thousands of people that Trump has to turn away from the football stadiums, then we can start to at least talk turkey. A tiny turkey.

Posted by: Drider at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (6Xbsz)

321 If we'd known it was going to end up like this maybe we should have fully annex'd Mexico when we had the chance.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (MbrzC)

322 no wall is going to get funding from either an R or D congress.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 14, 2016 08:01 PM (wEq+O)

According to the Supreme Court, the executive branch is free to spend money to make sure that legislation works as (someone) intended. So, if Obama can subsidize health insurance policies in states with no exchange, then Trump can build the fence that Congress authorized. And to think that the ruling angered me at first.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (nFdGS)

323 There are serious logistical issues with deporting 11 million (the number they're giving us, but it is much higher) illegal aliens. However, strictly applying the laws already on the books would help. Start by defunding sanctuary cities, put employers who knowingly hire illegals in jail and levy huge fines, stop paying government benefits to illegals (including schooling their kids for free and free medical care) and some of this might start working out. Find all the illegal visa overstays and deport them. No hearing, just put them on a plane and send them home with no reentry for 10 years.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (9iR5/)

324 Oh heavens. How repulsive.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (uZNvH)

325 Perhaps tax all bank transfers and money orders honored in Mexico, and maybe all central american countries at 10%?
That could be a start.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (q2o38)

326 Make checks out to Committee to "Elect The Impaler 2016".

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+2



Hmmm, depends. What is your policy on Muslims?

Posted by: Sharpend Wood Pole Makers Local, No. 101 at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (vBeA5)

327 310
Let me be clear, my position is to round up current and former members
of the Oministration, put them in forced labor camps to build the border
wall, and dump their bodies in the Rio Grande when they die of
exhaustion.



Make checks out to Committee to "Elect The Impaler 2016".

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at January 14, 2016 08:11 PM (jb+2

Make the work menu Michelle's high school meal program.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (4ErVI)

328 peaking of GOP outlets, Faux News mouthpiece O'Blowhard is broadcasting
that deporting illegals isIMPOSSIBLE, as Dana PreRino nods sagely.



the GOPE is the enemy.



Posted by: anti-socialist at January 14, 2016 08:09 PM (o9lmn)



As proven by the fact that no illegal has ever been successfully deported.

Posted by: Burt Toast at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (T78UI)

329 Paul Kirk, former DNC Chair,
---
Who? oh the Ted Kennedy stand in guy right?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:20 PM (MbrzC)

330 Trust me it's bad. Looks like a Boston cream doughnut.




Posted by: Wicket at January 14, 2016 08:07 PM (cmE8J)


Makes for a bit of a sticky Wicket, eh wot? Try the sheep dip, it has fungicides.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (L2co/)

331 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2016 07:33 PM (8ZskC)

Keychain.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (3myMJ)

332 Posted by: chemjeff at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (uZNvH)

Is there something specific you are referring to or is it just a general feeling of disgust? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (M+RRn)

333 Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (9iR5/)

I mean... if current laws were enforced, it wouldn't be THAT difficult.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (AkOaV)

334 As someone upstream alluded to : Trump has ONE job. Only ONE job.

Build the wall....
and stop the inevitably of the USA becoming Kalifornia or.....enjoy AOSHQ while you can, Rush and all the rest of them because unless that wall is built, pronto, you will think Goebbels came back from the dead to run the American 'media'.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (DCV+N)

335 How about a 25% tax on all remittances to Mexico and Central America? That ought to just about offset the cost of the taxes not being paid, the entitlement benefits being sucked up, and the cost of the prisons being used to house the ones that are convicted.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (iIzG7)

336

Wow.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (qCMvj)

337 the important part with deporting illegals is to change the incentive structure.

If there were a good chance of deportation and not a great chance of finding work, most would leave and/or not come in the first place.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (AkOaV)

338 323 - to easy and makes too much sense. Never gonna happen, but I'm with ya 1005

Posted by: Ray Nitschke 66 at January 14, 2016 08:22 PM (EAUyw)

339 325 Perhaps tax all bank transfers and money orders honored in Mexico, and maybe all central american countries at 10%?
That could be a start.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:19 PM (q2o3


Make it 90% and sign me up.

Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

340 the GOPe can besa mi culo...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (sH2Lu)

341

It's like Al Jazeera, in English and in any other language.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (qCMvj)

342 I mean... if current laws were enforced, it wouldn't be THAT difficult.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (AkOaV)

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Not to mention reducing the 'draw'...right now it's like this administration is advertising... quick get over the border as quick as possible...nobody will do anything to stop you for now... going out of office sale!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:23 PM (MbrzC)

343 "Kerry! Get over here! Someone said you've hidden a doughnut in your tent! Is that true? Because we know what happens when someone has unauthorized food outside of working areas, don't we?"

"I-I-I was hungry!! And I'm so weak! I just..."

"Cookie! Get your whip and get over here. Mr. Kerry is undergoing what we like to call a failure to communicate. Can you show Mr. Kerry what happens when communication breaks down?"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (4ErVI)

344

And people make fun of "Independents."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (qCMvj)

345 Find all the illegal visa overstays and deport them.
No hearing, just put them on a plane and send them home with no reentry
for 10 years.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:18 PM (9iR5/)


Try not allowing employers who have employees that don't have matching SSN/Name/DOB to deduct employee wages from their business taxes?

There would be nothing like getting a letter from the tax man saying your three cheap-as-dirt employees' wages are as deductable as the Camaro you bought for your daughter with the company credit card to reconsider the quality of employee you would like to hire.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (q2o38)

346 Once again:

1) stop the in flow of invaders. Without that, any other actions taken will be a waste of time and money.

2) tighten up visa rules and track in and out by electronic chip on a card.

3) raid businesses known to hire illegals and round up any illegals. Fine the businesses and close them for repeat offense.

4) stop catering to non english speakers.

5) tax/fine/fee for money being sent out of the country to the major locations of the homes of the invaders. Reduce the advantage to coming here.

6) offer a sign up for any who can prove (via income tax returns on a legal SS number or tax number) that they have been productive residents for over 10 years. They will be on the track for citizenship in another 5 years.

7) anyone else found gets the boot.

8 ) no more anchor babies. Not legal citizen kid not legal citizen. Deport.

9) then we talk about other details.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (Xo1Rt)

347 335
How about a 25% tax on all remittances to Mexico and Central America?
That ought to just about offset the cost of the taxes not being paid,
the entitlement benefits being sucked up, and the cost of the prisons
being used to house the ones that are convicted.


Posted by: Qoheleth at January 14, 2016 08:21 PM (iIzG7)

The thing is...I don't really want them in the prisons anymore either. Bit a problem considering some of the crimes (murder, rape, etc.) they've committed, but I don't want taxpayers paying a single more dime for these people. I'd deport them if I knew we could absolutely keep them out permanently.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (4ErVI)

348 #323: we have to fine and otherwise penalize people who hire housekeepers, gardeners, nannys, maids, etc, and pay them under the table.

most of my neighbors in this upscale part of Lost Angles have them, and the market would dry up if they suddenly had to pay withholding taxes, w*rkman's comp, file I-9s, etc.

cut off the demand, and the supply would self-deport.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (sH2Lu)

349 If you want to have the sweet flow of electronic Federal reserve notes and complete and udder lawlessness then you can't deport illegals. Of course all these Sadducees and Pharisees will claim it's not their fault when the ship hits the fan. John Kasich and medicaid comes to mind. I think that makes him a Sadducee.

Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:28 PM (kk/oj)

350 The thing is...I don't really want them in the prisons anymore either. Bit a problem considering some of the crimes (murder, rape, etc.) they've committed, but I don't want taxpayers paying a single more dime for these people. I'd deport them if I knew we could absolutely keep them out permanently.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (4ErVI)

prison is a major disincentive.

I don't want to pay for it either, but that needs to be looming over their head. I'd rather pay $30k a year to keep them in jail then whatever it costs in bennies to keep them on the streets.

Of course, the MOST preferable alternative is for them to just... leave

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:28 PM (AkOaV)

351 The ship is hitting the fan and looks to continue for at least all of 2016.

Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:29 PM (kk/oj)

352 "Trump isn't going to build a wall, he's pulling the same con Rs pulled during the Bush years"

Yes he is. Trump is a builder, a real estate developer. He lives and breaths building things. A wall is like a kindergarten project for him.

Trump is no Obama. He's not known as a bait and switch operator.

He's used to doing what he says he will do. The business world demands that of him. He'd have been out of business years ago otherwise.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (yox0K)

353 346 - Some people are going to have an issue with #6, though if you actually did 1,2,3,4,5, 7,8 and then they might be open to discussing 6.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (MbrzC)

354 They will not leave till they have ship on every lawn they can.

Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (kk/oj)

355 OT: an example of why the youth of today are such wussies:

Elementary school in Los Angeles mandates Veganism.

http://Preview.tinyurl.com/zqpdkq5

Posted by: The Meat-Eating Hat at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (vBeA5)

356 5) tax/fine/fee for money being sent out of the
country to the major locations of the homes of the invaders. Reduce the
advantage to coming here.

6) offer a sign up for any who can
prove (via income tax returns on a legal SS number or tax number) that
they have been productive residents for over 10 years. They will be on
the track for citizenship in another 5 years.

7) anyone else found gets the boot.

8 ) no more anchor babies. Not legal citizen kid not legal citizen. Deport.

9) then we talk about other details.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:24 PM (Xo1Rt)


Re: #5. I think you could word the legislation so that it wouldn't cause hardship upon U,S. citizens, legal visitors, or corporations moving money into Central America for honest pursuits, say buying property, or investing in a business.

Find a way to define, and tax, "family remittances by illegal aliens".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:31 PM (L2co/)

357 353 346 - Some people are going to have an issue with #6, though if you actually did 1,2,3,4,5, 7,8 and then they might be open to discussing 6.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:30 PM (MbrzC)

I think we all agree that SOME people would be able to stay. But that cannot be said / agreed to up front. That creates confusing incentives.

It must be "everyone leave" of course starting with low hanging fruit. And "everyone who sneaks back in gets fucked" somehow.

Then, yeah -- there will be those who are still here. Who are "the good ones" (as Trump would stay) who... well, we can talk about them then.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (AkOaV)

358 Heh especially because it's going to be known as Trump's wall. Having that go down in history would appeal to Donald, I'm sure.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4ErVI)

359 Remember; that Wall will have HIS NAME ON IT!!1!!!!! Forever.

Think Hadrians Wall.

Who the eff is Hadrian?

But we all know about his wall.

You think he can pass that chance by?

NO. WAY.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (Xo1Rt)

360 351 The ship is hitting the fan and looks to continue for at least all of 2016.

Posted by: scorecard at January 14, 2016 08:29 PM (kk/oj)
---
So the bow is buckling like our other ships?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (MbrzC)

361 cut off the demand, and the supply would self-deport.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2016 08:26 PM (sH2Lu)


Yup...Jose and Pedro and Henry only want to work here and send money home. Everyone forgets that they have homes in dear old Mexico.
Off they will go when their get no more dough.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (ej1L0)

362 So the bow is buckling like our other ships?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:32 PM (MbrzC)

Shit. Fuckin waves. Didn't think about that. Unforeseen, if you will.

-American military ship building contractors.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (AkOaV)

363 I think instead of calling them "undocumented immigrants" or "illegal aliens," we need some term that focuses on the fact that they ARE citizens -- of other countries.


Foreigners.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (a4JgP)

364 nood.

About Trump.

Posted by: The Meat-Eating Hat at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (vBeA5)

365 Find a way to define, and tax, "family remittances by illegal aliens".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2016 08:31 PM (L2co/)


Allow a waiver of tax if an actual SSN is used?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2016 08:34 PM (q2o38)

366 I'd deport them if I knew we could absolutely keep them out permanently.
------
Dack, the man who murdered Kate Steinle in SF had been deported five times. Said that the reason he was in SF was because it was a sanctuary city.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:35 PM (9iR5/)

367 Oh, Denninger has a nice post up:

Wake Up, GOP

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231028

Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2016 08:37 PM (sdi6R)

368 -American military ship building contractors.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 14, 2016 08:33 PM (AkOaV)
---
Let's be accurate and even more humorous... it was the indeed the Navy there, not the contractor, who built to the spec requested.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 14, 2016 08:37 PM (MbrzC)

369 Cruz is hate and despised by the GOPe, DNC, political pundits, and the Pravda, so he has that In his favor. Trump is still not being taken seriously by the same "elites" and the more they attack him, the stronger he gets.
There are no perfect candidates that we can ALL agree on, there never has been.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 14, 2016 08:40 PM (xVgrA)

370 You know why this is stupid? If the Dems pulled a stunt like this, saying two things to two different sides, their base will know they are duping the other side, because Dems have delivered for them in the past.

Here, trust of the Republican establishment is at an all time low, all this will do is earn them the mistrust of conservatives as well as liberals. This stunt will merely increase everyone's mistrust. Even if they were on a kamikaze mission to sink Trump and Cruz, this will just make them more popular.

Posted by: lost in jeblation at January 14, 2016 08:43 PM (GKF1b)

371 Someone should check to see if she was blinking the word torture in Morse code with her eyes during the speech.

Posted by: Admiral Dalton at January 14, 2016 08:46 PM (r/fFS)

372 Before I believe that Trump, or anyone, will "build the Wall", i'd like to have some indication that he knows something about what he's talking about.

My position for years is that if a politician tells you he's going to 'build the Wall", he's lying. So far, I'm right.

Trump hasn't even been to the border except for that Laredo photo-op. I don't expect him to give me blueprints--just some little sign that he knows the issues.

If you don't take away the incentives, a barrier is worth nothing.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:47 PM (CoX6k)

373 I agree with you, Stace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)

374 Dack, the man who murdered Kate Steinle in SF had been deported five times. Said that the reason he was in SF was because it was a sanctuary city.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 14, 2016 08:35 PM (9iR5/)

The Ukrainian criminals that were caught on our ranch had served time in US jail and then been deported. They came back through Mexico.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:51 PM (CoX6k)

375 Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:47 PM (CoX6k)

Tell that to Israel. and Hungary. And (I think ) Croatia.

Walls work.

Build the wall first as it sends the message that we're serious and it slows the inflow to a trickle that can be dealt with.

Then work on the inner stuff. the incentives and the violators who allow illegals to work. And the visa stayers.

It's not rocket science. It's just icky and there's going to be sob stories up the ying yang.

Tough. Suck it up and go back home. make YOUR home a better place. Here we'll give you money to do so. GO. HOME.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

376 Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 14, 2016 08:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

Sure.

I have no reason to believe that any of them, including Trump, will do it.

I don't follow Trump closely, but I haven't yet seen any indication he knows what's involved.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:55 PM (CoX6k)

377 373 I agree with you, Stace.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)

thanks, I may be completely wrong, and would be happy to be proven so, but my BS meter pegs on this thing.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:57 PM (CoX6k)

378 Trump hasn't even been to the border except for that Laredo photo-op. I don't expect him to give me blueprints--just some little sign that he knows the issues.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 08:47 PM (CoX6k)

Doesn't work that way with Trump. He's like Henry Ford sending his engineers back to their drawing boards when they told him a V-8 motor was impossible. He just said, "build it anyway".

No man can achieve a detailed grasp on all the issues that face a President, especially at this point in a campaign.

For Presidents, it's about who they put on their team, who they listen to, being shrewd and using common sense. They need a lot of luck too.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 08:57 PM (3myMJ)

379 373 I agree with you, Stace.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2016 08:49 PM (M+RRn)

You bet. All I ask for is a sign, just some tiny little signal that he's not just spewing BS.

Haven't seen that. Maybe I missed it though.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:00 PM (CoX6k)

380 oops that last comment was a reply for meremortal. Sorry.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:01 PM (CoX6k)

381 Trump was a Hillary clone 6 months ago. I think he's a lying sack of shit. I would like to see him cornholed by a rhino in a pit full of squid.

Posted by: mnwxyz at January 14, 2016 09:01 PM (NiHAc)

382 "My position for years is that if a politician tells you he's going to 'build the Wall", he's lying. So far, I'm right."

A politician? Sure, I wholeheartedly agree. Trump is a businessman, builder, real estate developer who is running for office for the first and last time in his life. He's not a politician.

"Trump hasn't even been to the border except for that Laredo photo-op. I don't expect him to give me blueprints--just some little sign that he knows the issues."

Building a wall is the simplest of projects. Seriously, I don't think it gets any easier.

"just some little sign that he knows the issues."

Uh, that's his life's work. He knows the issues.

"If you don't take away the incentives, a barrier is worth nothing."

It's not worth nothing. It's an integral piece, a major component. Walls work.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:05 PM (yox0K)

383 You bet. All I ask for is a sign, just some tiny little signal that he's not just spewing BS.

Haven't seen that. Maybe I missed it though.
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:00 PM (CoX6k)

OK, that's a trust thing, and I get that. Everyone decides that in their own way.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2016 09:06 PM (3myMJ)

384 >>> I would like to see him cornholed by a rhino in a pit full of squid.

You need therapy.

Posted by: Siberian Black Pied Pig at January 14, 2016 09:06 PM (AfsKp)

385 "You bet. All I ask for is a sign, just some tiny little signal that he's not just spewing BS."

What do you expect him to do. Start hiring the laborers before he's elected? Seriously, he's not going to the moon. It's a stupid wall not a space program.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:08 PM (yox0K)

386 Building a wall is the simplest of projects. Seriously, I don't think it gets any easier.

==

See, this is the trust problem I have. To build less than a hundred of mile of border fence in Texas, the gov had to sue 400 landowners. The fence in Tx has to be built a 1/2 mile to a mile north of the border, mostly on private land.

Can it be done? Of course!

But when I hear folks say it's the simplest pf projects, that sets the BS meter on fire.

Posted by: stace at January 14, 2016 09:16 PM (CoX6k)

387 "See, this is the trust problem I have"

"But when I hear folks say it's the simplest pf projects, that sets the BS meter on fire."

What does this have to do with trusting Trump? You are all over the map.

You first call out Trump as a politician who is lying then you transfer the issue to the Texas government having problems.

How do you get to stretch somebody else's history and project it on Trump?

Trump is not the Texas government. A president and the Federal government is a whole different ballgame especially since like 65-70% of the population wants the wall.

Will there be legal hurdles and obstacles? Sure, there are with every big project.


Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:30 PM (yox0K)

388 Late to the party, as usual, but people who don't think there is a GOPe media are kidding themselves. They cater to the McConnells and Ryans of the world, not to their readers/listeners.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 14, 2016 09:50 PM (tCjRC)

389 Here's another thing, the Uniparty DOESN'T WANT a wall that's why they lie. That's why it never gets built.

Trump WANTS a wall. He's said so for years and years, and years.

It will get built if Trump is president.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 14, 2016 09:52 PM (yox0K)

390 Maybe the right-wing outlets DID notice, and they have just decided to withhold information from their readers/listeners, in an attempt to advance the cause.

I call that the "Ace of Spades" model of journalism.

Oh, sorry, did you forget that you admitted lying to all of us? And now you're complaining about someone else doing the same? Well, I guess it's only okay if it's you, huh?

Pot, meet Kettle.

Posted by: Demosthenes at January 15, 2016 11:13 AM (9V0rz)

391 I call that the "Ace of Spades" model of journalism.

Of course you do, bless your heart.

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