Republican Consultants: Don’t Make Ted Cruz The Nominee Because He’s Not A Team Player!

This piece makes a very compelling case, it’s just the opposite of the one the one it’s trying to make.

After laying the blame for the GOP’s leftward lurch upon gaining control of the House and Senate at the feet of conservatives and the disloyal Ted Cruz we get to the part where this is disqualifying for Cruz to be President.

Ted Cruz made his choice, as he always has. He selfishly inspires others to do the same.

He's not against compromise. He just pushes it down the road.

Ted Cruz is the poster boy of the Republican who won't compromise within his party, and so hands funding power to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer, to let them do his work for him. And, unfortunately for the nation, they do.

Why? As Anderson notes, Cruz would rather be the martyred leader of a failed cause than a contributor to a successful team. He’s been an outsider in everything he’s done.

Politics is a team sport. Skins v. shirts. Redskins v. Cowboys. Democrats v. Republicans. That's how we govern our nation. There is an “R” behind Cruz’s name. That is the party he chose.

There were lots of these pieces last month blaming conservatives for the GOP’s complete cave on spending. Here’s the thing…they are CYA blame shifting by Team GOP types to tar their opponents with their mess.

Let’s go back a little over a year. Remember the CROmnibus that passed at the end of the session prior to the GOP taking control of the Senate? The idea was they would pass the full year spending but only a short term extension for DHS. The idea, they claimed, was to avoid a shutdown and then take on funding for Obama’s amnesty when the GOP had the Senate. Enough Republicans and conservatives went along with this and then…Mitch McConnell promptly caved and funded Obama’s amnesty (which the GOP funded again last month).

Republicans made it clear that they would not take on Harry Reid and Barack Obama or risk a shutdown. That gave the Senate Democratic MINORITY total control over the process. Nothing House Republicans could have done would have changed that calculation.

I've written before about why conservatives who care about small government aren’t and shouldn't be interested in the DC notion of compromise. Short version…by definition it leads to bigger government.

So how does this render Cruz unfit to be President? It doesn’t. As I said it makes him the ideal, one might say necessary, choice.

Presidents aren’t part of a legislative team. They have a separate and independent power base, that as we’ve been told by excuse making Republicans for the last 6 years, is almost impossible to overcome.

If Cruz is the rigid ideologue he is being portrayed as (and I have my doubts about that), then he is exactly the man conservatives should want in the White House.
Imagine a President who would veto bills because they spend too much, or because they include grants of power to bureaucrats at the expense of citizens or the market place.

Shouldn’t we want an uncompromising conservative wielding the power that Republicans in Congress haven’t been able to overcome when Obama uses it to move the country to the right?

Republicans have made it clear that conservatives are welcome on the team when it comes to volunteering, donating and voting. But when it comes to reaping the rewards of the team's victories, only certain parts of the "team" will share in them. It's clear that conservatives aren't included in that part of the "team".

So Ted Cruz isn’t a “team player”. Given the results of the current GOP roster, that’s music to my ears.

Speaking of "team", the current head of Team GOP, Reince Preibus doesn't want to say if one of the leaders for his party's nomination is eligible or not to hold the office. Because...team!

Oh and as an aside, was Marco Rubio a “team player” when he worked with Schumer and Obama to advance what he himself defined as “amnesty”? Funny which deviations from “the team” are ok with DC Republicans and which are career ending events.

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1 Speaking of Hillary, how much do you think they're paying O'malley to stay in?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:31 AM (5buP8)

2 Oh, firstish. You can D'q me though b/c my comment had nothing to do with the posted content.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:32 AM (5buP8)

3 It's kind of odd to be here all alone.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM (5buP8)

4 gope gotta gope, yo

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM (MQEz6)

5 Cruz was a brilliant student. I don't remember Obama.

Posted by: Alan Dershowitz at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (hrMUT)

6 Cue the shills.

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (MQEz6)

7 My loathing of the Dems knows no limits, but the GOPes can collectively kiss my butt.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (r65B3)

8 Obama studied the Constitution the same way demolition experts study structural engineering.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (5buP8)

9 Piss on the base much, GOP?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (LA7Cm)

10 I'm about tired of the whole Team Player mantra.

near as I can tell, Team Player mens not only going along with the Democrats plan, but one-upping them.


Democrats want a 5% tax increase?

let's go for 7%, just to prove we can play along with the other side.


Fuck'em

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (ptqRm)

11 Ted Cruz is the poster boy of the Republican who won't compromise within his party, and so hands funding power to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer, to let them do his work for him. And, unfortunately for the nation, they do.


The only thing that would make this funnier would be for it to be a McConnell quote.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:37 AM (evdj2)

12 Good morning!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (/ciMI)

13 Why isn't anyone talking about banning Ricky Gervais in England? he's a hateful, hateful man.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (5buP8)

14 All this hectoring about the GOP establishment would ring a lot truer if certain suspects on this site hadn't been slobbering over lifelong liberal Donald Trump as if he were the next incarnation of Reagan.

So, yeah, the GOP establishment sucks. No question about that. But so does a good friend of Hillary Clinton's who's in favor of stripping 2nd Amendment rights from people placed on the no-fly list, is against defunding those baby harvesters at Planned Parenthood, brazenly contradicts himself on policy (when he bothers trying to explain himself, that is), and generally whines like a baby on Twitter whenever criticized.

Vote Cruz.

Posted by: tops116 at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (Wn+fE)

15 Cruz is coming for your children!
Kill the Cruz!

Posted by: GOP at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (cbfNE)

16 They don't need Democrat support for funding issues, do they? That's simple majority, right?

If so, it would seem the problem is that the GOPe doesn't want to play ball with the conservatives, not the other way around.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (yeZ4s)

17 It's always important to remember that the Republican Party is not, and was not founded to be, a conservative party. Being charitable, they are true to themselves more than false to their conservative voters.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (evdj2)

18 Dangerous, getting through the black diamond slopes.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (/ciMI)

19
Every time I hear the word "team" I think of the scene in The Untouchables where Capone takes a baseball bat to the skull of one of his henchmen.

Fuck "compromise."

Fuck "team."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (X6fMO)

20 Posted at 10:34.
First comment at 10:31.

Could someone appeal to Pixy to set the clocks on the servers? It's simple to get atomic clock time off the net automatically to keep in sync with reality. There's no excuse for the time being off by several minutes.

Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (VrdxH)

21 I'm seeing diamonds before my eyes. Knew I shouldn't have snorted that Tang.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (uhftQ)

22 The Cruz Missile is on target.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (/ciMI)

23 Just a little off topic.

Looks like ISIS isn't as JV as our Feckless Leader would like us to think they are.

Analyze
Adapt
Improvise

These are not stupid people.

http://tinyurl.com/z7cd2f2

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (ptqRm)

24 The red rat commie bastards of the Democratic Party are our opponents, the Republican Leadership is our enemy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (evdj2)

25 I like Phyllis Schlafley's comments: Trump could be the end of the GOPe "king makers." All those party hacks need to go away. Way, far away.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (5buP8)

26 8 Obama studied the Constitution the same way demolition experts study structural engineering.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (5buP

My friend's kid is in college to "learn how to build bridges and then blow them up."
He's such a sweet kid, too.

Posted by: GOP at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (cbfNE)

27 Hey, gope, we don't want to take power so that we can compromise, we want to take power so we can make the other guys shit their pants and give us what we want.

You know, victory.

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (MQEz6)

28 And I'm adamant: It takes more than the ability to write a capital "R" in parentheses after your name to EARN my support. All credit to the guy who wrote the quoted piece for admitting he's a Washington insider. Some contempt to him for being too stupid to understand that he is the target of the conservative rebellion, and all contempt to him for betraying the values that conservatives hold to.

Posted by: EndOfPatience at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (lW95N)

29 I would happily vote for Cruz or Trump in the general election.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (Fmupd)

30 So, conservative/ Tea Party types should hope for a Trump/Cruz ticket?

Seems that's what the RINOS do not want.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (9JJgN)

31 Looks like Drew has a bad case of black diamond disease.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (N8xMd)

32 I like his Mission Impossible movies!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (hrMUT)

33 There's no excuse for the time being off by several minutes.

It's to confuse the NSA.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (yeZ4s)

34 It's kind of odd to be here all alone.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM


Might have been worse. Might be alone in teh Barrel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (me6xG)

35
Posted by: tops116



Your concern has been:

[x] Noted
[ ] Other Than Noted

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

36 "Could someone appeal to Pixy to set the clocks on the servers? "

#twoweeks

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (ptqRm)

37 A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms. Enthusiasms ...

Posted by: Donald Trump at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (evdj2)

38 If Cruz wasn't some type of team player he would already had gone on the offense against Trump. I'm not so sure now that he won't based on Trump's latest statements. If he doesn't then I have to believe he is positioning himself to be a running mate contrary to his statements . That would be a disappointment. Also I think Trump would have second thoughts if it appears he will win the nomination. Cruz's move will come after Iowa and NH.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (TAkZ9)

39 There's no excuse for the time being off by several minutes.

It's a delay so Pixy can bleep out any foul language before it hits the interwebz

Posted by: McCool at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (TQxRy)

40
Ya know.....

Trump had oughtta resurrect the "support the eventual Republican nominee plege" a cram a fucking metric ton schadenfraude up the GOPe's ass.

I would rub Jebs nose in that until he quits.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (8XRCm)

41 Do you want a team player as leader when your team sucks so bad?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (yeZ4s)

42 In his pre-Senate days, Cruz's was mostly an appellate lawyer, at which he excelled. Appellate lawyers usually don't have the personal skills to be effective executives or even trial lawyers. That's often why they're appellate lawyers.

So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (r1fLd)

43 So, their argument is, they had really super-duper conservative policies and positions--tax cuts, spending cuts, immigration--all fired up and ready to introduce and pass but that dastardly Cruz ruined it all?

Oh, FFS.

The only policy victories they've been able to advance are all Democrat--through and through. And they are fine with that, 'cause "Go Team R!!"

Add this asshole to the pile of asshole who still refuse to believe there are legitimate reasons to support Trump.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (fQ/0p)

44 So....Cruz would be less of a "team player" as POTUS than Obama?

I'd also like to know what "team" they're talking about, because I suspect it is Team DC Insiders, who value those across the aisle, the MSM, and K Street more than the people they supposedly represent.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (NOIQH)

45 So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.

Like who, for instance?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:45 AM (evdj2)

46 30 So, conservative/ Tea Party types should hope for a Trump/Cruz ticket?

--

Imagine the exploding heads in DC if this happens.
Better than Mars Attacks!

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (cbfNE)

47 I was already on board with Ted. No need to get off that bandwagon now.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (gmeXX)

48 So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.



Like who, for instance?


Like George Pataki.

He built a massive consensus that nobody wanted him as president.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (yeZ4s)

49 how much do you think they're paying O'malley to stay in?

Why would they? He's such a charisma vacuum that his being in probably makes things worse for Clinton and Sanders.

Also, if you didn't see it, Insty has a post about 3 different children's picture books that just came out that all are about how Hillary is the Best In All The Land. Someone needs to Photoshop the heck out of one of them.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (S+N7W)

50 sigh.

Maybe the tactic should simply be "support the candidate that the liberals hate with the white hot rage of a million suns."

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (9JJgN)

51 And who can forget W, the GOPe Team Player, working hand in hand with Ted Kennedy to give us No Child Left Behind?

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (fQ/0p)

52 The totally predictable and unimaginative slander of indefensible compromisers finally called out on their craven compromising.

"Ted Cruz is the poster boy of the Republican who won't compromise within his party" -- as opposed to all of the other poster boys who have done nothing but compromise and are responsible for the phenomenon of the horrible Ted Cruz.

Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (s/yC1)

53 I would really, really like to see the internal GOP polling.

My suspicion is that the Trump and Cruz polling is solid ... and that the GOPe desperation is going to grow exponentially up to Iowa.

Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (E7zwb)

54 Like who, for instance?


I wasn't trying to be mean, btw. I was just pointing out that you run with the candidates you have. Cruz seems to be the best of the bunch if you go by his stated intentions. And he's a Texan, albeit a naturalized one.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (evdj2)

55
Cruz isn't a "team" player. He's more on OUR team than theirs. He's not on team gravy train (I hope).

Gervais has and sadistic sense of humor. Idiot Abroad proves this. His humor is is as cruel as I have ever heard. He is an ugly little man inside and out.
Cannot think of any other "comedian" I would describe this way.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (uhftQ)

56 BTW.


Zippy has fixed the Auto-Play that was screwing up the their site.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (ptqRm)

57 Begonia will show up to defend the piece Drew linked to in

3...
2...
1...

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (N8xMd)

58 Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (r1fLd)

If he wins the nomination I think that would be evidence of the ability to be a consensus builder.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:48 AM (TAkZ9)

59 Also, which one is Dondi, Cruz or Rubio? I get that confused....

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (9JJgN)

60 So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.

-Things Rinse Pubis says after Cruz wins the first 2 primaries

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (5buP8)

61 I got as far as 'Erick Erickson', and bailed.

Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (/zA5D)

62 I could easily vote for Ted Cruz.. I am still not sure as of this point in time if he could beat Shrillary, though.

My theory goes something like this: Lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Dems for Hillary (especially butt hurt Bernie followers when he loses to her) makes this a perfect opportunity to take back the White House.

But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary. So, not sure about Ted..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (so+oy)

63 Talk about losing lines of attack, this is the poster boy of them. This just goes to show that extreme corruption in the end produces extreme stupidity.

Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (s/yC1)

64 For me the President needs to ge courageous and patriotic and devoted to the Republic and freedom above all else.

Executive experience is overrated and is often used for an excuse one way or the other.

I think Trump and Cruz would do just fine.

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (MQEz6)

65 I'm mostly hoping for the elimination of the Bush family as a political force. All in all, they have been a negative influence on the country.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (evdj2)

66 So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.

-Things Rinse Pubis says after Cruz wins the first 2 primaries
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (5buP

----

Hey. Rinse.

Ive built a pretty big concensus that youre a fucking weasel douchenozzle.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)

67 Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (fQ/0p)

Bush ran on doing a No Child Left Behind program. It wasn't a surprise thrown at us after the election.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (TAkZ9)

68 31 Looks like Drew has a bad case of black diamond disease.

Do a right-click and View Page Source. The black diamonds are there even in the text source. I haven't a clue why this happens, but I've never seen it on any other site. It's only on acecomments.mu.nu, not the main page.

And based on my last post, the server time is 7 minutes off.

/curmudgeon mode

Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 10:52 AM (VrdxH)

69 Dangerous, getting through the black diamond slopes.
Posted by: Turd
------------
Diamond Shoals
There used to be a lightship. Pic:
http://tinyurl.com/hn2z29u

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2016 10:52 AM (oFSUK)

70 It's only on acecomments.mu.nu, not the main page.


The comments server doesn't support unicode, for some reason, while the mainpage does.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (evdj2)

71 But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary. So, not sure about Ted..

Any GOP nominee, no matter how far to the left, will be trumpeted by liberal blogs/media as the Second Coming of Jen-jiss Khan in order to wind up the base voters. Mitt Romney was portrayed as EXTREEEEM pretty much all of 2012, and it worked.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (S+N7W)

72 Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories. And with the way Cruz has treated the issue, I like him less.

"In August 2013 Ted Cruz claimed to not be aware that he was a Canadian citizen, that he learned about it from reading a newspaper article. Upon being informed he said, "assuming it's true", he'd renounce his Canadian citizenship. In Jan. 2016 Breitbart publishes an interview with a buddy of Ted Cruzs' from collage, in which that friend mentioned how he and Ted had discussed Teds dual Canadian/US citizenship while attending Princeton. He told how Cruz identified as a dual citizen at the border during a trip together to Canada. 2015/2016 Cruz declares that he is certainly a natural born Citizen as intended and required by Art. 2 Section 1 clause 5, in the US Constitution, yet says this; "As you know, I was born in Canada. My mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of my birth. She was a U.S. citizen from birth so, under U.S. law, I'm an American citizen by birth." "Beyond that," he added, "I will leave the legal consequences of those facts to others to worry about."
No one questioned if he was a statutory citizen. We know HE didn't have to "naturalize" because his mother did it for him when she filled out the paperwork, and presented proof of her own US citizenship at the Canadian consulate.

Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (xhawg)

73 42 In his pre-Senate days, Cruz's was mostly an appellate lawyer, at which he excelled. Appellate lawyers usually don't have the personal skills to be effective executives or even trial lawyers. That's often why they're appellate lawyers.

So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.



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Oh, you mean like being governor....like Kasich.

Kasich Kasich, he's our man! Let's give Kasich a great big hand!


TEEEAAMMM KASICH!! YAY!!

*runs to vomit*

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (Fmupd)

74
I got as far as 'Erick Erickson', and bailed.
Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest



You didn't like this?:

"First, for those who dont know Erick Erickson as I do, he is a wonderful human being and as solidly conservative as the greatest of all powers could create."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (kdS6q)

75 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (so+oy)

Reagan, 1980 and 1984.

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (MQEz6)

76 Holy shit! How did you not quote this part?!!

"Let me suggest that in doing so, however, they sell the conservative
cause short. There are more than a few Washington consultants, and even
members of the DC establishment, who are just as conservative as any
Cruz supporter."

Are you fucking kidding me?!

There's "out of touch" and then there's this "the Sun rises in the West" level of delusion.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (fQ/0p)

77 osted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (N8xMd)

Even he/she would be preferable to the troll J-"I hope to win the Powerball but f...any charity other than my charity by myself to my family" West

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (M+RRn)

78 Compromise with Dim/Com/Progs whose goal is to destroy our way of life, not to mention the rule of law, the Constitution, capitalism and Christianity?

No thanks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (LUgeY)

79 "Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories."

I find this one of the most unimportant considerations. I wouldn't really care if Cruz was born in Canada of Canadian parents.

Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (s/yC1)

80 " I'm mostly hoping for the elimination of the Bush family as a political force. "


Oh no. George P., Jeb's son, is Texas Land Commissioner and grooming to be Guv' some day. Ugh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (LA7Cm)

81
Cruz should be a team player!

Posted by: Sen. Lisa Meerkatski at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (j4wsR)

82
Alex Castellanos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Castellanos

Weasel

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (kdS6q)

83 It's only on acecomments.mu.nu, not the main page.


The comments server doesn't support unicode, for some reason, while the mainpage does.
Posted by: Grump928



#twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (IlQaj)

84 Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories.

Oh joy, birthers.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (S+N7W)

85 Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories.


You're not alone, but merciful not part of a large group. As for me, the guy was American at his birth, and no one has presented any evidence of dual loyalties, so I'm satisfied enough. He's certainly more American that then SCoaMF, or even Hillary or Bernie by my reasoning.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (evdj2)

86 I don't care that Trump is not a conservative. I don't care that he is "obnoxious." Trump has all the right enemies in this campaign. That's good enough for me. I hope his election burns down the Republican Party. I don't see what purpose they serve.

Posted by: In the bunker at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (pnRrB)

87 GOP to base: See? You made us promise shit we knew we weren't going to do, just to appease you terrorists.
It's your fault we now control the Senate and the House, because our plan was to continue to let all the show votes from the republican House die in the Democrat Senate.

Well, the hell with you! We will continue to do what WE want to do. Except now, we'll have our shills in the "conservative punditry" blame you, and Ted Cruz. At least if we manage to lose yet another slam dunk presidential race, we have our scapegoat ducks in a row.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (kKHcp)

88 Can I get someone to rinse my penis?

Posted by: Billy "horndog" Clinton at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (WIfAR)

89
Paul Ryan says the GOP needs to be the "proposition party".

Come on Dude, we already know you are a bunch of whores!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (ODxAs)

90 You know who this benefits?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (kFnmp)

91

Oh the GOPe are on a team,, Team Hillary!!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (HSmrB)

92 Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (xhawg)

Posted here before or are you here to knock Cruz-from the Trump campaign perhaps?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (M+RRn)

93 It's not about being conservative as much as it is about having guts and loving America.
At least for me.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (cbfNE)

94 I love how all the guys who are bitching about Cruz being a Canadian let Barry slide on being Kenyan.

That being said, its time for the purge. I think Drew and Ace have both mentioned how the GOPe got back control of Congress too fast. Because Obama was too awful. And because they got power back so fast, too many of the old guard, who caused our problems in the first place, were able to stay, and with seniority are now in powerful leadership positions. Guys like Ryan and Scalise have to go. So that fresh blood can come in and try to fix the mess they made.

Posted by: Iblis at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (9221z)

95
Pennsylvania Mayor pulls police security from gunshow.... because they oppose his gun control policies.

http://tinyurl.com/js5dqmk

Washington Free Bacon

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (8XRCm)

96
Not really a criticism, but Drew greatly understates the GOP's failure to oppose and exercise its share of actual power, esp. since 2010. Most people do.

The GOP has failed to use the utterly conventional, long established tools the voters gave it to shape policy and budgets since 2010. Let alone the "extraordinary" ones - such as filibusters (or more to the point, abolishing same).

Cruz barely dipped his toe in some of the very ho-hum conventional sort of things that are part and parcel of Congress' power under the constitution and in practice during our history. For this some consider him a "bomb-thrower" - which is darkly comical.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (QDnY+)

97 I would like to thank the GOPe for confirming that I made the right decision to support Ted Cruz.

These imbeciles couldn't catch a clue if it forced itself into their hands. Why do they think that this would be an effective tack, when anyone with half a brain can see that the reason Trump and Cruz are atop the polls is that people are done with the GOPe.

Keep on talking, please. Because I want Cruz to win.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (OkKDg)

98 25
I like Phyllis Schlafley's comments: Trump could be the end of the GOPe
"king makers." All those party hacks need to go away. Way, far away.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (5buP

I'd like to see a lot of the talkers go with them. The NRO crowd, those types. The useless shills you see on the news. All hot air that's accomplished nothing except prop up the status quo.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (4ErVI)

99 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (ODxAs)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (M+RRn)

100 "Paul Ryan says the GOP needs to be the "proposition party"."


What the Hell does that mean?

Propose...amnesty? Propose....more Syrians? Propose....more spending? That kind of "proposition?"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (LA7Cm)

101 "Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories."


Better a Canadian preezy than a muzzy Indonesian one.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (LUgeY)

102 The GOP is a useless pile of junk.

It's a con perpetrated on the naive.

They are not a governing party.

They are a scheme to funnel money to connected players and operatives, nothing more.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (jqOIu)

103 Even he/she would be preferable to the troll J-"I hope to win the Powerball but f...any charity other than my charity by myself to my family" West

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (M+RRn)


True, if I won the Powerball I would insure the financial security of my family for generations to come.

Or, I could buy a BigMac, fries and a Coke for everyone in Bangladesh and get my picture in the paper for a day.

I'll stick with taking care of the family.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (Zs4uk)

104 Also, as my Twitter page says:
Media delenda est.

Which auto cucumber wants to turn into
Media depends rest.

Which is also on point.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (cbfNE)

105 After all the cloak and dagger shit regarding Barry's heritage, as well as the typically Democrat adherence to Constitutional principles ...

... I could give a shit where Ted comes from. When the opposition suddenly starts behaving as Strict Constructionists - so will I.

Until then ? Fuck you. War.

Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (E7zwb)

106 it's almost as if the eGOP would rather have Hillary than Ted. Funny that.

Posted by: Donna, Seriously? at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (of67s)

107 I prayed for an asshole that loves America to be in this election. God has answered my prayers with two of them.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (Fmupd)

108 I'm switching my support from Fiorina to Cruz. Regretfully, Carly just doesn't have the name recognition and organizational support it takes to make a breakthroughat the national level. I liked Jindal, too. And Perry. Damn it.

Republicans honestly can't complain about a lmited selection. We've had some good choices this time around.

Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (UWlp+)

109 Even if I did like Cruz I refuse to vote for anyone who was not born in the USA, or territories.

Oh joy, birthers.

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Is this what a birther is? I'm not sure. If someone wants to add that to his own personal criteria as to who they will or won't vote for - so be it. I don't have a problem with where Ted was born, but I don't really care that others do. As another commenter stated, this is a very small group of voters.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

110 The "team" they are talking about is the Communist-regressive agenda.

Posted by: mindful webworker - pro foundly at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (zbbA4)

111 Darn that Schumber!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (FkBIv)

112 "it's almost as if the eGOP would rather have Hillary than Ted. Funny that"


It wouldn't surprise me at this point at all.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (LA7Cm)

113 Breaking:
Bagdad Mall terror attack. 10 dead.

Developing


http://fxn.ws/1Ri6pTI

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (ptqRm)

114 The black diamonds are eliminated by changing the page encoding from Unicode to Western (anything).

Of course, it won't accept comments then...

(YMMV)

Posted by: mindful webworker - technically squeaking at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (zbbA4)

115 people are done with the GOPe.



Posted by: chique testing testing at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (OkKDg)


The Establishment has become the Whigs. When the Whigs became politically irrelevant, the Republicans replaced them. Now there's not a nickel's worth of difference between what the Establishment and the Democrats vote for. They vote the same on everything! They will also be replaced.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (HalrA)

116 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

It just seems like hot air to me.

Ymmv.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)

117 Someone used the term: Rapefugees last night and I have stolen it and used it to sardonic chuckles this morning 'round the watercooler.

So, I thank you, Moron.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:06 AM (evdj2)

118 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

It just seems like hot air to me.

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Well I would. I suspect many on this board would. Of course it may depend on what you mean by a lot.

In fairness, part of my motivation would be to give to charity so as not to give it to the government.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (gmeXX)

119 http://tinyurl.com/js5dqmk

Washington Free Bacon

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (8XRCm)



Sounds like they need to get the Barrett treatment and the companies that supply them with firearms and ammo either: a) hike their prices by 60% plus a surcharge or b) totally refuse to service them at all.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (GUBah)

120 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

It just seems like hot air to me.

Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)

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Yeah. I want to stand up at the podium and announce Im giving half my 1.3 Billion to the NRA.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (8XRCm)

121 West is troll. He says whatever he needs to to get a response.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (M+RRn)

122 Eat shit!

http://tinyurl.com/zcr2ama

(And no, it's not about GOPe.)

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (Nwg0u)

123 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.


I have pointed out to the Lord that were I to win, it would be at least $50M toward his works. Not bargaining per se, just noting.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (evdj2)

124
Baghdad has a mall???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (8XRCm)

125 108 I'm switching my support from Fiorina to Cruz. Regretfully, Carly just doesn't have the name recognition and organizational support it takes to make a breakthroughat the national level. I liked Jindal, too. And Perry. Damn it.

Republicans honestly can't complain about a lmited selection. We've had some good choices this time around. Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (UWlp+)


But aside from Trump and Cruz, the party money machine crushed them and the scum rose to the top. There's only two dogs in this fight that we can still get behind. Either of those two, or America's going to be circling the drain too tightly to float back up when the flushing's done.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (HalrA)

126 I refuse to say "I like candidate X"
It seems to be the kiss of death.
The craziest little voice in my head thinks he's the star of the Truman Show, and the audience loves to watch him despair at losing politically.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (kKHcp)

127 I have pointed out to the Lord that were I to win, it would be at least $50M toward his works. Not bargaining per se, just noting.

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I'll see your $50M and go to $75M. Just noting.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (gmeXX)

128 In all fairness, my Powerball winnings ain't going to the Bangladeshi Big Mac fund either.

Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:09 AM (E7zwb)

129
I'm switching my support from Fiorina to Cruz. I liked Jindal, too. And Perry.
Posted by: troyriser



Thanks for the kiss of death.

Posted by: "Ted" Cruz

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 11:09 AM (kdS6q)

130 Breaking:
Bagdad Mall terror attack. 10 dead.



How did the Amish make it all the way to Baghdad?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2016 11:10 AM (ODxAs)

131 Drew>After laying the blame for the GOP's leftward lurch upon gaining control of the House and Senate at the feet of conservatives...

That's about right. Give Conservatives no credit for the GOPe GAINING CONTROL. Just blame Conservatives for the leftward lurch. That's some devious logic right there.

at 96 Rhomboid probably said it better above than I did.

I'm about to the point of going all in for Trump regardless of the unknowns of a Trump Administration.

Just to see the GOPe burn.

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oxcYa)

132 Politics is a team sport. Skins v. shirts. Redskins v. Cowboys. Democrats v. Republicans. That's how we govern our nation.

This idiot confuses the party-oriented parliamentary systems everyone else in the world has with the American Constitutional architecture. Political parties are the centers of all governmental systems ... except for ours, where political parties aren't even Constitutional entities.

No big surprise that the Vichy GOP douchebags wouldn't have a clue as to how the American Constitutional Republic is supposed to work. They, as the democrats they collaborate with, wish that we had the shitty party-oriented, unlimited, unseparated, centralized parliamentary systems that the rest of the world has limped along with while America blew past them all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (zc3Db)

133 Trump is a far more effective asshole to the Establishment. Plus I think he just has a better shot at actually winning the thing and bringing a new coalition of voters with him.

I don't see Cruz rocking the boat when it comes to immigration like Trump will, and that's what needs to happen if this country has a prayer.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (kaR4c)

134 Great recommendation for Cruz. While we need to prosecute Progressives we also need to drum these loser consultants out of Washington.

Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (tLRcG)

135 Haven't been to a church in forever ... But count me in for 10% if i hit the numbers. Tradition and all that.

Just noting.

Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (E7zwb)

136 In fairness, part of my motivation would be to give to charity so as not to give it to the government.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (gmeXX)


I'd use my winnings to create an endowment for my own charitable institution. You can't guarantee that other charities staff wouldn't be living high on the hog off of your giving, and you wouldn't need to be a part of the rat race anymore, so why not run your own and spend the rest of your life making the world suck a bit less?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (HalrA)

137 republicans aren't team players .....fuck them......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (0O7c5)

138 The people who have representation today are the half that have been indoctrinated into the religion of Progressivism. They have the Democrat party.

Crony capitalists have the GOPe.

The rest of us have nothing. No representation.

Until Trump. He will not give us everything we might want - I expect "gay marriage" will stay, as will widespread abortion, and probably affirmative action - but he will be a huge step in the right direction, in both senses of the word.

Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (VrdxH)

139 From Drudge: 53% of Donks say Hillary! should continue her campaign even if indicted, not that they're more of a criminal conspiracy than a political party.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)

140 Maybe the tactic should simply be "support the candidate that the liberals hate with the white hot rage of a million suns."
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (9JJgN)

And that is why I'll pull the lever for Trump if he is the nominee.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (JOG+K)

141 Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:09 AM (E7zwb)

Give 'em Chik-Fil-A ;^)

Nobodies money was actually. It's merely West capering with his clown nose on while he dances with the straw men

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:13 AM (M+RRn)

142 VIA @10: I'm about tired of the whole Team Player mantra.

Ditto.

Team Players produce no Leaders.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (r65B3)

143 Cruz / Fiorina would be my choice.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (TAkZ9)

144 I have 5 tickets for Wed's drawing so I should up the ante to $130M. I was trying to imagine how to use that much for the Lord's work. My church certainly would be corrupted by that much. I'm leaning toward micro-loans for Christian Businessmen in foreign parts.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (evdj2)

145 137
republicans aren't team players .....fuck them......


Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (0O7c5)


They decided to play scorched earth and vote with the Democrats rather than accommodate the Tea Party and give up on their unlimited spending and globalist horseshit. Fuck 'em with a cactus, they're dead to me.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (HalrA)

146 not a team player == wouldn't stay bought.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (Cq0oW)

147 "Republican Consultants"

FYNQ

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (659DL)

148 reason Trump and Cruz are atop the polls is that people are done with the GOPe.

We're going right or crazy, feel free to join us.

Posted by: Actual R Voters at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (DL2i+)

149 SH yeah I think a lot of people would be charitable with their winnings.

But saying ahead of time seems kinda fake to me. I am reacting actually to a talk show on the radio - they were blathering on about powerball and one of them pipes up - "imagine, with a billion dollars you could solve world hunger!"

I would guess that if you are charitable now, if you win a lot of money you will still be charitable. If you are selfish now you will still be selfish.

If I were to win big, helping my own family, then extended family around the world, then anonymous charity (mainly for pro-life and vets ) would be my list. Huh, that's actually also my list for the little money I have now. What a coincidence.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (cbfNE)

150 Cruz / Fiorina would be my choice.

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Wouldn't be the worst ticket. If Cruz were to win, who he selects is going to be interesting. Does he decide to go complete outsider or does he follow Reagan and try to bring back in the establishment somehow.

I'm just hopeful I get to see that decision.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (gmeXX)

151 They decided to play scorched earth and vote with
the Democrats rather than accommodate the Tea Party and give up on their
unlimited spending and globalist horseshit. Fuck 'em with a cactus,
they're dead to me.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (HalrA)
amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (0O7c5)

152 Just a few short months ago consultants were publishing nasty little op-eds presuming to lecture the base on their proper role serving the donor class. Now, these same losers seem a little less certain of themselves and a little more plaintive.

Can't wait to find out how much of a team player these consultants will be when the nominee is someone they hate.

Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (tLRcG)

153 It's not about being conservative as much as it is about having guts and loving America.
At least for me.


There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what the term "conservative" means. The MFM has painted a picture for the LIV's of an inbred, knuckle-dragging, trailer trash toothless imbecile who has to be told what to think.

The rest of us gaze upon that caricature with wonder. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Conservatives want to conserve the principles that have made this country the most free, the most innovative and successful society the world has ever seen. One needn't look at much history to see that we've done more to raise the standard of living for the whole world than anyone before us.

Among those principles are equality before the law (and laws that makes sense), freedom for everyone to live in peace among like-minded people, truth and the right to be properly and accurately informed so we can govern ourselves. Throw in some Christian values such as the notion of family as the bedrock of society (consisting of a man and a woman) too.

Chief among those values is the right to be left alone in peace, something which the Left absolutely refuses to do.

Now, someone needs to 'splain it to me why the GOPe and all their minions aren't promoting these values and ideas every time they get near a microphone. If they did, we wouldn't be in the shitty situation we're currently in and the election of a radical far-leftist such as TFP (twice) would not have been possible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (LUgeY)

154 I like the noise Trump is making. He threw that women card right back in Hillary's face and suddenly she just seemed to back off. No one else seems to be able to do that.

But watching one of his things over the weekend, I worry a lot of the noise is just noise. For example he was talking about lawsuits or something and said who knows more about lawsuits than me? Well, lawyers for one.

I don't know. I'm still not really picking anyone yet. I'm just watching.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (4ErVI)

155 Do they have the GAP in the Bagdad Mall?

Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (JrKKc)

156 121 West is troll. He says whatever he needs to to get a response.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (M+RRn)


You simply can't imagine someone who doesn't think the same way you do.

Do you think the Salvation Army is an upstanding organization? They hide their finances behind the cloak of a religious organization. How much of what they collect is spent on the poor?

Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Zs4uk)

157 How to tell when the US is headed in the right direction:

1. When property values and the employment rate in DC is going down, and going up in the rest of the country.

2. When Iran and North Korea fear the US gubmint, and US citizens don't.

3. When the number of regulations and laws shrinks for the year.

4. When federal employees start going to jail at the same rate as state employees for misconduct.

5. When it is at least as easy to fire a public worker as a private worker.

6. When our fighter jets, sent on sorties, come back to base for fresh bombs rather than fresh fuel.

And to stay on topic, go Cruz and f*ck McConnell.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (gyKtp)

158 They are a scheme to funnel money to connected players and operatives, nothing more.

There's plenty of consultancy gravy left on the privatization biscuit before the whole thing winds up puked out behind the Waffle House.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (DL2i+)

159
133 Trump is a far more effective asshole to the Establishment. Plus I think he just has a better shot at actually winning the thing and bringing a new coalition of voters with him.

I don't see Cruz rocking the boat when it comes to immigration like Trump will, and that's what needs to happen if this country has a prayer.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (kaR4c)


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I have to admit, I don't really trust Cruz on the immigration issue which is a big deal to me. I'd still vote for him, but just for the sake of stopping the foreign invasion we have now, I'm going with Trump in the primaries.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (Fmupd)

160 When you gaze long into DC, DC also gazes into you.

Posted by: General Zod at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (Bdeb0)

161 how many times did i hold my nose and vote for the gope candidates put before me? NEVER AGAIN

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (0O7c5)

162 republicans aren't team players .....f*ck them......


Yeah, Mitch McConnell lies to his fellow GOP Senators to get one of those "compromises" passed and Cruz is the bad guy for calling Mitch a liar. That's Lefty logic - play victim after striking first.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (NOIQH)

163 Pennsylvania Mayor pulls police security from gunshow.... because they oppose his gun control policies.
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A remarkably Obamaesque tantrum. The guy is a spoiled brat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (oFSUK)

164 Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (cbfNE)

So you do have some charitable giving in mind and thats great. People saying they would give it all away are not being realistic. That's quite different than saying "F charity".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (M+RRn)

165 republicans aren't team players .....f*ck them......


Yeah, Mitch McConnell lies to his fellow GOP Senators to get one of those "compromises" passed and Cruz is the bad guy for calling Mitch a liar. That's Lefty logic - play victim after striking first

Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (NOIQH)

166 Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.

One can always rationalize being an uncharitable fuck. It's in our nature.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (evdj2)

167 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

Keeping Italian automakers in business IS charitable.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (DL2i+)

168 If I were to buy a ticket, which I won't, and should I win, I would set aside a portion for each member of my family to live on comfortably till their natural death. No heirs. The rest would go to the half dozen ministries I already support. To whom much is given, much is required.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (dwHMP)

169 163 Pennsylvania Mayor pulls police security from gunshow.... because they oppose his gun control policies.
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A remarkably Obamaesque tantrum. The guy is a spoiled brat.

Honestly, why would you need police presence at a gun show?
Isn't everyone packing?

Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (JrKKc)

170
There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what the term "conservative" means. The MFM has painted a picture for the LIV's of an inbred, knuckle-dragging, trailer trash toothless imbecile who has to be told what to think.








Hey, you forgot the most important part of being the leftists' bete noir: cousin-humping. Can't forget the cousin-humping.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (j4wsR)

171 Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.

One can always rationalize being an uncharitable fuck. It's in our nature.

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Some charities are better than others.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (gmeXX)

172 I shall rescue the Dallas Cowboys from Jerry Jones. This is the charity for which I will be remembered.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (evdj2)

173 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (M+RRn)

I do. There's so much joy in helping others.

Also I suspect jwest is not as scroogey as he pretends to be online.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (cbfNE)

174 Some charities are better than others.


No doubt of that.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (evdj2)

175 >>Pennsylvania Mayor pulls police security from gunshow.... because they oppose his gun control policies.
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Aaaand isn't this exactly why we need the 2nd Amendment - petty leaders who will selectively protect citizens/enforce laws based on politics?

They should thank him for such a clear demonstration of what tyranny looks like.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (NOIQH)

176 I'm about to the point of going all in for Trump regardless of the unknowns of a Trump Administration.

Just to see the GOPe burn. Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oxcYa)


We don't know what we're getting with Trump. But even if he's a just a salesman, he might actually try uphold his end of the bargain in order to build a legacy. You have to be good to get your face on Rushmore, and Trump likes putting his brand on things...

We do know what we're getting with any candidate the Establishment would back. A knife in the front. They won't give us anything we want, ever.


Either Trump or Cruz might give us a knife in the back. Cruz isn't 100% a saint, remember how he caved on the Trans-Pacific
Partnership, which was another of Obama's "pass it to find out what's in
it" packages full of shit. Trump's age means we're not going to get another chance with him. Let's put him in just to make the Establishments squeal, and Cruz as the VP. On the chance that they're both honest, we could have 16 years of epic Oval Office domination in the pipe...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (HalrA)

177 Also I suspect jwest is not as scroogey as he pretends to be online.


I would take the over on that bet.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (evdj2)

178 This idiot confuses the party-oriented parliamentary systems everyone else in the world has with the American Constitutional architecture. Political parties are the centers of all governmental systems ... except for ours, where political parties aren't even Constitutional entities.
POP
________

That is a great point and should be brought up more often.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (MIKMs)

179 how many times did i hold my nose and vote for the gope candidates put before me? NEVER AGAIN
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (0O7c5)

What are you going to do?!?! Let THEM win????

This is the most important election in our lifetime! We (that means you) need to stand united blahblahblahbalhdfjsalfj......

Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (kKHcp)

180 159
On all other issues, I'd trust Cruz before Trump.

Posted by: Wendy at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (bpemY)

181 What are you going to do?!?! Let THEM win????



This is the most important election in our lifetime! We (that means you) need to stand united blahblahblahbalhdfjsalfj......

Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (kKHcp)
*snort*

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (0O7c5)

182 "I'd like to see a lot of the talkers go with them. The NRO crowd, those types. The useless shills you see on the news. All hot air that's accomplished nothing except prop up the status quo."


I like Rush. I remember his efforts to stop Clinton in 1992, and all the efforts to stop the Progressive drift of the country since then. Hannity, Levin, all talked themselves hoarse.

It had zero effect. Zero.

Talk radio has accomplished nothing. They haven't changed one mind - at least none that matter. The movement to the left has been constant.

Where I do see some hope today is in the extreme right writing on the web. Some of their opinions are quite despicable, but they do force people to think, at least the ones who haven't lived in the Matrix all their lives and know nothing else.

Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (VrdxH)

183 FenSpok, You know I love you, right? So, not sure what to make of your "charitableness-shaming," and across several threads at that.

Of course, I generally ignore some folks' stuff, rather than engage and encourage them to post more. And prefer the positive approach, like when Jesus praised the widow's mites.

But then, I'm still a bit dumbfounded that you associated Oklahoma's earthquakes with a few devil-worshiping idiots the other day.

Are you getting enough Vitamin D this winter?

Posted by: mindful webworker - what th' at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (zbbA4)

184 Hey! Nobody told me we were meeting on the NYC subway.

http://tinyurl.com/jedgono

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Nwg0u)

185 I'd use my winnings to create an endowment for my own charitable institution. You can't guarantee that other charities staff wouldn't be living high on the hog off of your giving, and you wouldn't need to be a part of the rat race anymore, so why not run your own and spend the rest of your life making the world suck a bit less?


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (HalrA)


The trouble with this plan is that within a few generations, the professional foundation bureaucrats will take over and start funneling money to causes that you hate.

Trust your great grandchildren to make the right choices.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Zs4uk)

186 120 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

It just seems like hot air to me.

Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)

----

Yeah. I want to stand up at the podium and announce Im giving half my 1.3 Billion to the NRA.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (8XRCm)

All the right heads would explode. It would be a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (kpqmD)

187 Jwest I hate to break it to you but the Salvation Army IS a church. My aunt attended Salvation Army church in Sweden because she didn't like the State church
.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (dwHMP)

188 >>Some charities are better than others.


And even the most air-tight trust can be broken: see the *private* Barnes art collection in Philadelphia.

You can't take it with you, and you can't control it after it's given, so you just have to take joy in the giving to whom you think will handle it best.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (NOIQH)

189 if i win....i will give to whom i wish to give and joyfully say no to the assholes who show up with their hands out

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (0O7c5)

190 The secret is to die penniless.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (evdj2)

191 "...he [Trump] will be a huge step in the right direction, in both senses of the word.Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (VrdxH)

For Heaven's sake, Trump advocates socialized healthcare. There is nothing 'right' about him. Hispositions of the moment sometimes coincideor intersect with positions held by conservative voters, but the man himself is not conservative.

Should also be pointed out thatTrump eminent domained the shit out of homeowners in New York in order to build alimousine garage, and he also witheld portions of his father's estate from his brother's family out of spite--even though his own infant nephew desperately needed medical care.

Oh, and yeah: his thoughts on Putin's murderousness? 'We do it too'? Really? The guy's a certifiedasshole, a borderline fucking monster, a meglomaniac, and some of you want to make him President.

However, I do understand Trump's daughter is very hittable, if you know what I mean. Trump said so himself.

Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (UWlp+)

192 Keeping Italian automakers in business IS charitable.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (DL2i+)


Exactly. And what about all the hookers and strippers who need your support?

Not to mention the ValuRite Corp. They always could use a few bucks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (N8xMd)

193 and there is no rhyme or reason for whom i will chose to give to.....but trust me...i will enjoy saying no to the assholes.....i may burn a couple thousand in front of them....just to keep my spirits up

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (0O7c5)

194 Some charities are better than others.

Make ace Congressman Moron from the Internet district.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (DL2i+)

195 @#42
In his pre-Senate days, Cruz's was mostly an appellate lawyer, at which he excelled. Appellate lawyers usually don't have the personal skills to be effective executives or even trial lawyers. That's often why they're appellate lawyers.

Utter BS.

Posted by: brainpimp at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (492G/)

196 the GOPe can kiss my ass...

i'll vote for Trump.

i might vote for Cruz, because i don't really trust him, and i held my nose for the last time voting for mittens.

the rest of them aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell, and, since i live in #Failifornia, who will lockstep vote for whomever has a (D) after their name, it doesn't really matter if i vote for that office.

Trump, OTOH, might just carry this state.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (wIatL)

197 Spot on, Drew.

Republicans have made it clear that conservatives are welcome on the team when it comes to volunteering, donating and voting. But when it comes to reaping the rewards of the team's victories, only certain parts of the "team" will share in them. It's clear that conservatives aren't included in that part of the "team".


Republicans are supposedly the party of results, not rhetoric. Why is it that when I survey the results of the Republicans and comment thereupon, suddenly I'm a child who doesn't know how the game is played.

Here's a hint. It's not a game. It's not teams. Compromise is not a good in and of itself.

The Republicans have indicated, by both action and deed, that me and my views just aren't their bag, baby. But somehow the Republicans are still owed my vote. That doesn't precisely sit well with me. To say nothing of logic.

Spare me the oh oh oh oh oh but Hillary is so much worse emotionally manipulative patheticness. If you want to argue from a game theory pov that voting for the Republican is a necessary evil in order to prevent Hillary from winning, fine. That's a reasonable position. IF YOU DON'T VOTE GOP THEN YOU ARE THE REASON THE DEMS WIN OMFG UR SO STUPID!!11!@ASDKJFH is not.

Also, I am already seeing the rumblings of well that pledge for all the candidates to support the GOP nominee doesn't really mean we have to support Trump if it's him because Trump. If (heaven forfend) that comes to pass? I shall be a pettier bitch about it than the Horde presumes I shall be.

That it is even being discussed demonstrates why I and others have such contempt for much of the GOP. Unilateral loyalty is not loyalty at all. It's a demand for obsequiousness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)

198 Phoenixgirl, I like your plan.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (cbfNE)

199 http://is.gd/4blpF3

to my mind, the moment in time that link speaks towards is when the establishment had enough of Cruz. He had previously played ball by financing Cochran then attempted to play both sides of the ensuing controversy.

note, I don't say he had a change of heart. I can't know that, neither can anyone else.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (Cq0oW)

200 or course my personal timing on things like that is poor. I was closing a checking account last month and drained it down to $5 at the ATM after all the checks had cleared, intending to go to the bank and complete closing it on the following Monday. Work interferred and in the meanwhile, Netflix billed PayPal who them turned around and billed my bank for $7.99. Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (evdj2)

201
We don't know what we're getting with Trump. But even if he's a just a salesman, he might actually try uphold his end of the bargain in order to build a legacy









I figure that in the end, with Trump we'll get MAYBE 10% of what we want, with my guy Cruz, I'm thinking 20%.

But with the GOPe rat fuckers I have absolute confidence that we'll get exactly 0 point 0% of what we want.

I'm totes okay with 10%.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (j4wsR)

202 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)


Thank God you threw that "bitch" in there at the end. I was starting to get worried.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (gW5Vg)

203 Just wanted to point out that the long knives have been out for the Salvation Army for 100 years (Shaw's Major Barbara anyone?). Despite that, they have topped the charity efficiency rankings for many years now. The most direct and practical charity for your dollars.

I admire them tremendously and they are the only charity (aside from very local) that I would ever consider giving serious money.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (MIKMs)

204 I would try to compound my winnings by investing wisely ad live and donate the amount I make. I would also set aside a huge percentage to donate while I'm alive and the remainder when I die. I would like to help those who fall thru the cracks and need help.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (iQIUe)

205 I have to admit, I don't really trust Cruz on the immigration issue which is a big deal to me. I'd still vote for him, but just for the sake of stopping the foreign invasion we have now, I'm going with Trump in the primaries.
Posted by: Soona


That's where I'm leaning.

Let's pretend Cruz "learned his lesson" and is no longer the squish on immigration with the long paper trail.


It's not that I think he shoves Amnesty down our throat, he'll just do what every other President has done which is pretend it's not a problem and put some window dressing on it while we slip further into a 3rd world country.

Plus, I just don't think Cruz has the political skills to actually win an election, he has a big charisma defecit. I could see an LIV being turned off by him

Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (kaR4c)

206 120 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.
It just seems like hot air to me.
Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)


If we're talking about a piddly million, sure. 1.3 billion? How would you even begin to spend that much money?

And I always assume people are thinking of tax implications as well. First thing you would do is meet with a financial advisor and figure that bit out.

Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:30 AM (lIU4e)

207 There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what the term "conservative" means.


The Left's trope is that conservatives have no ideas or counter-proposals for what the Dems want to do.

The truth is that we don't believe the Fed Govt has any business doing any of the things that the left wants to do.

So the Dems say we want to provide healthcare for all Americans with Obamacare. What do you conservatives propose for providing healthcare for all Americans ? You're just the party of opposition w/o any ideas (that we like)

It's like telling your kids that starting next week, there's no more soda or candy allowed in the house and your turning off cable TV. You're the bad guy who doesnt want people to be happy.





Posted by: McCool at January 11, 2016 11:30 AM (TQxRy)

208 Trust your great grandchildren to make the right choices.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Zs4uk)


That's the plan. By creating an endowment, I meant an investment vehicle that would suppy the charity with a large yearly budget until the world economy goes bust, time ends, or gold can be made in a lab.

The charity becomes a family business that, according to law, can spend something like up to 38% on salaries...

I call it the enlightened self interest plan. Take care of your family and those who you think really need it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (HalrA)

209 Unilateral loyalty is not loyalty at all. It's a demand for obsequiousness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)

Yep. Now get in line!

Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (kKHcp)

210 if i win the Powerball, and yes, i'll buy a ticket or two, i'll leave #Failifornia so fast you'll all hear the sonic boom...

then i'll find a place down south and start a company making new M-1 Garands for the civilian market.

i'll let you know when the IPO is ready... ;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (wIatL)

211 There is nothing 'right' about him. Hispositions of the moment sometimes coincide

Headsplosions and a wall with TRUMP written on it might be all we can get this go round. Either is significant improvement.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (DL2i+)

212 FenSpok, You know I love you, right? So, not sure what to make of your "charitableness-shaming," and across several threads at that.

Charitable shaming? West said "Fuck Charity" I was responding to the unfortunatelcomment of his I was quoting HIM. Whenever i say "F charity:" in connection with West it is in connection with that-NOT that I say or think F charity

And as I noted I don't think God causes earthquakes. It was two unrelated comments-that I still think they (OK folks) should n't have allowed the Satanist to have a black mass in the convention center (after that the woman was beheaded) and that I thought there was some talk about the militant Atheits/Stanist group trying to take down the ten commandments and out up a "Bezzlebub loves the little children" statue. .

Sorry if i wasn't clear. It might be a good idea to ask what I mean at the time so you don't think I'm going off the deep end of need additionsl vitamins

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (M+RRn)

213 Unilateral loyalty is not loyalty at all. It's a demand for obsequiousness.


Love and Despair, I haz it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (evdj2)

214 Good Morning AtC
http://cheezburger.com/3928809472

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (DL2i+)

215 And I always assume people are thinking of tax implications as well.

----

Lottery winnings are actually pretty easy. If you choose the cash option.... send HALF to the fed and state. And if you live in Kansas City, MO..... send 1% to them.

My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (8XRCm)

216 BACKLASH!


http://tinyurl.com/zaj5efk


Several migrants attacked by mob in Cologne: German police

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (fWAjv)

217 Btw, AtC, that rant sounded suspiciously familiar. I wonder where I could have heard you make those points before?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (gW5Vg)

218 #62

My theory goes something like this: Lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Dems for Hillary (especially butt hurt Bernie followers when he loses to her) makes this a perfect opportunity to take back the White House.

But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary. So, not sure about Ted..

Filed under theory to make sure you never win, only run candidates the dems are happy with. Got it.

Posted by: brainpimp at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (492G/)

219
I shall be a pettier bitch about it than the Horde presumes I shall be.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)









Will there be flamethrowers?

I like flamethrowers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)

220 I shall rescue the Dallas Cowboys from Jerry Jones. This is the charity for which I will be remembered.

And I shall rescue the cheerleaders.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (LUgeY)

221 Will there be flamethrowers?

I like flamethrowers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)


Of course!

But wee little ones so the Empress can use them as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (gW5Vg)

222 The amusing quirks of Minx 0.7 alpha are part of the unique charm of AoSHQ and I, for one, don't really want to see them fixed.
Nor do I want the Cannot-Turn-Off-Presidential-Alerts functionality that would (by law) accompany any upgrade or modification.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (erRNA)

223 But wee little ones so the Empress can use them as well.

She need merely point with an Imperial Paw.

Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (evdj2)

224 I like most of what Cruz says. Hey, I like talkers now and again. Talkers have their place.

It's just that I'm going to vote for the doer this time around.

Posted by: Drider at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (bdzyz)

225
Will there be flamethrowers?

I like flamethrowers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)

Of course!

But wee little ones so the Empress can use them as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (gW5Vg)







Tough to attach backpack straps to a Bic lighter, I imagine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (j4wsR)

226 Unilateral loyalty is not loyalty at all. It's a demand for obsequiousness.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)


Although I'm probably more in your 'game theory' camp (ie, very little chance I won't vote against Hillary, whatever option we get on the republican side - if for no other reason than things like administrative staffing/judges/etc), this is absolutely true.

If voting republican results in literally nothing being done, what is the point? If they aren't even serving as a hedge against worse, than they've lost their only remaining purpose.

Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (lIU4e)

227 0 The secret is to die penniless

===


and bounce the check to the gravediggers.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (Cq0oW)

228 AtC is the prettiest bitch in the world!
Oh, pettier ... that too...

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (cbfNE)

229 Thank God you threw that "bitch" in there at the end. I was starting to get worried.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (gW5Vg)



I'm trying to save up some vitriol for later, in case I need it.

And where, oh where, oh where could you have heard such statements before? *taps chin*

It's a mystery.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (mf5HN)

230 She need merely point with an Imperial Paw.

Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (evdj2)


I have a feeling she'll want to set some things ablaze personally.


Tough to attach backpack straps to a Bic lighter, I imagine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (j4wsR)


Now come on, that's just absurd. We'll use zippos.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (gW5Vg)

231 And if anyone else was confused by my comment quoting about J'west, I apologize, I wouldn't want any use to think I was disparaging charitable giving. Some charities are better than others and you have to be careful about what organizations you give to. Local Salvation Army is much better at spending money for the people it's intended than the group (name escapes me) people contribute to at work

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (M+RRn)

232 If you want to argue from a game theory pov that voting for the
Republican is a necessary evil in order to prevent Hillary from winning,
fine.


And that might have been good enough when the back and forth of politics wobbled around a sustainable trajectory.

19T$+, 200T$+, 30M+ illegals, Global Hirabism, (the word sustainable being hijacked as a religion by fuckwits who think a snail is holey), etc. aren't going to be wobbled back into sustainability.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (DL2i+)

233 "My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton."

that's easy: my children all have 4 legs and a tail, so they can't get any worse than they already are...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (wIatL)

234 Trump is the type of asshole that will bring McConnell and Ryan to the Oval Office and tell them that if they don't shape up he'll ruin them politically. Hit them where it will hurt them the most, since both of them are nothing but political whores.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (Fmupd)

235 Trust your great grandchildren to make the right choices.

Yeah that works out really well.

Posted by: John D. Rockefeller at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (2WoCi)

236 it's intended than the group (name escapes me) people contribute to at work

-----

United Way.


Should all be united in prison.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (8XRCm)

237 If voting republican results in literally nothing
being done, what is the point? If they aren't even serving as a hedge
against worse, than they've lost their only remaining purpose.



Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (lIU4e)


This is why I keep calling them the new Whigs. They have become completely politically irrelevant. They serve no purpose. America does not want nor need two Far Left parties that embrace globalism and want to destroy America as a nation and culture to further their utopian schemes.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (HalrA)

238 FenSpok, You know I love you, right? ...
Are you getting enough Vitamin D this winter?



Are you allowing for some remorse over her role in the murder of Grammie Winger?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (1xUj/)

239 It's a demand for obsequiousness.

Didn't Mr. Burns rip Smithers for weak toadying one time.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (DL2i+)

240 Yeah that works out really well.

Posted by: John D. Rockefeller at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (2WoCi)



Ain't that the damn truth.

Posted by: Sam Walton at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (gW5Vg)

241 Thanks; I was having a Senior moment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (M+RRn)

242 Crossing streams - Trump is a billionaire and his kids are ok.
Maybe if I win, I will ask his advice.

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (cbfNE)

243 Good Morning AtC
http://cheezburger.com/3928809472
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (DL2i+)



Needz moar Browns players being hit by meteors but other than that, it's pretty accurate.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (mf5HN)

244 United Way.


Ours supports PP and dropped the BSA. Needless to say, I dropped them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (evdj2)

245 Lottery winnings are actually pretty easy. If you choose the cash option.... send HALF to the fed and state. And if you live in Kansas City, MO..... send 1% to them.

My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.

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Solve both problems, give a lot to charity now, so you do not give half (40%) to the feds and do not leave your children with more than they can handle. I assume you will still leave your children with quite a bit.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (gmeXX)

246 I see that I should just stay away from using the F word even if I quoting other people. It causes me too many problems. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (M+RRn)

247 Lottery winnings are actually pretty easy. If you choose the cash option.... send HALF to the fed and state. And if you live in Kansas City, MO..... send 1% to them.

My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.



Easy.
#1. If you weren't at my father's funeral, fuck you. Don't call me.
#2. I don't have kids.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (IlQaj)

248 Do you think the Salvation Army is an upstanding organization? They hide their finances behind the cloak of a religious organization. How much of what they collect is spent on the poor?

Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Zs4uk)


Please backup your statements on this issue.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)

249 asy.
#1. If you weren't at my father's funeral, fuck you. Don't call me.

------

I was there. In the back.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (gmeXX)

250 So the Dems say we want to provide healthcare for all Americans with Obamacare. What do you conservatives propose for providing healthcare for all Americans ? You're just the party of opposition w/o any ideas (that we like)


What we want is what we once had before the government decided to control a market it knows nothing about: a free-market solution with healthcare plans that are portable across state lines and customizable, much like auto insurance. And no byzantine regulations run by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats in DC.

And yeah, it's perfectly OK if there are some companies who make money from it.

Prog/Coms never mention what we would replace the clusterfuck of ObamaCare with. We keep saying that, and they keep ignoring it as though we don't have a plan. Again, why aren't Repumpkin minions not mentioning this at every opportunity? No wonder they can't get any traction nationally: they won't espouse any conservative ideas nor even dare mention the crappy state of affairs the Dim/Progs have created to suggest something better.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:44 AM (LUgeY)

251 #1. If you weren't at my father's funeral, fuck you. Don't call me.

------

I was there. In the back.
Posted by: SH



Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:45 AM (IlQaj)

252 "So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder."

Trump is proven as an effective manager. Being in big time real estate is about wheedling deals which is consensus building. Cruz is unproven on these attributes.

Trump can be charming when he wants to be, or a Total Dick. Cruz has a more limited range, no? It makes Trump a more effective retail politician. Trial lawyer v. Appellate lawyer.

Cruz is vulnerable in the general as not being a Man of the People. "I'm aboard so let's pull up the ladder" on Illegal Immigration.

The Natural Born issue is real, because Democrats can make it an issue in those states where they control the ballot apparatus.

Rubio actually has a Natural Born issue because neither of his parents were citizens when he was born, so he can't attack Anchor Baby Birthright Citizenship.

Cruz negatives will go up including because his position on abortion will be a drag when it's more widely known.

For these reasons and more Trump is more likely to win in the general.

That's the fact, Jack!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 11:45 AM (r1fLd)

253 BACKLASH ...its about time. if the government is not gonna protect its citizens then they will do it. its gonna get ugly.

Posted by: E.T. at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (a67CF)

254 I was there. In the back.

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (M+RRn)

255 246 I see that I should just stay away from using the F word even if I quoting other people. It causes me too many problems. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (M+RRn)

So let me get this straight. You killed Grammie but you're worried about dropping f-bombs?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (kpqmD)

256 If I win the lotto im going to buy a pound of coke and rent Dolly Pardons ample breasts to snort it off of.

Posted by: Drider at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (bdzyz)

257 July 2015 Clinton signals to Jewish donors: I'll be better for Israel
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Clinton Considered Secret Plan to Spark Palestinian Protests

http://tinyurl.com/zqsqjgw


Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton considered a secret plan created by her then-advisers to foment unrest among Palestinian citizens and spark protests in order to push the Israeli government back to the negotiating table, according to emails released as part of the investigation into the Democratic presidential frontrunner's private email server.

In a Dec, 18, 2011, email, former U.S. ambassador to Israel Thomas Pickering suggested that Clinton consider a plan to restart then-stalled peace negotiations by kickstarting Palestinian demonstrations against Israel.
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Yep, we really need this c**t in the WhiteHouse.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (fWAjv)

258 Who linked the poo pills? That's some cold shit right there.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (DL2i+)

259 Every one of the goodthinkers in my liberal neighborhood is smarter than Trump. Waaaaaay smarter.

Please, Donald, win.

Posted by: General Zod at January 11, 2016 11:47 AM (Bdeb0)

260 Watching Jon Huntsman on CNBC talk about No Labels and how they want to support GOP candidates who will take the "problem solver promise" to work with the "other side" upon election. Heyyyy Jonny - who in this country wants that? Count them on one hand and then look at the solitary middle finger you're holding up in the mirror. Then go sit on it. Dumbass.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 11, 2016 11:48 AM (Dc/ui)

261 I prefer the Reagan model of solving problems. We win, they lose.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (gmeXX)

262 The GOPe and floccinaucinihilipilification seem to go hand in hand

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (fWAjv)

263 The GOPe toadies say the most conservative candidate left in the field is not worthy of their nomination?

Well then, they can go fuck themselves.

War.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 11, 2016 11:50 AM (wtvvX)

264 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (kpqmD

LOlI didn't actually kill her; I just said that she was dead (typo) instead of dear, but she's still going to keep on eye on me. ;^)

Just didnt want people to ever think I would say "F charity". Does that even sound like something i would say?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)

265 GOP Inc. is poison to our freedom and future. Cruz is encumbered by his fealty to what remains of a once-great champion of liberty. Good luck to him, but the situation almost ensures Trump will prevail in the primaries.

Posted by: Born Free at January 11, 2016 11:52 AM (uGTin)

266 Radio news just said Mexico has began the extradition process on that young DUI killer. Also announced that half of the school teachers in Detroit have gone on an illegal strike for higher pay which all the other States will have to pay since Detroit is bankrupt. .

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (t2KH5)

267 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (fWAjv)

Just hideous. Clinton Foundation sold in large part to Muslim interests.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)

268 Fucking shitweasels, all of them. Trump or Cruz or my ass sits home in Nov. giggling with glee at Queen FUPA taking her throne. Let the Burning Times commence.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (89T5c)

269 Just didnt want people to ever think I would say "F charity". Does that even sound like something i would say?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)

No, doesn't sound like you at all to abbreviate it down to just a 'F.'

Now a full throated bellowing FU*K!!!! I can see.




Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (fWAjv)

270 261
I prefer the Reagan model of solving problems. We win, they lose.

Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (gmeXX)


Me too.

I think Ayn Rand was extremely right about the state of humanity. On every issue, you have two sides. One is right, the other is wrong. In the middle, you have evil. It does not have the courage to stand up for what is right or fight what's wrong. It refuses to make judgments in order to be agreeable to both. It will toady up to both sides, in the hope of getting a slice of the loot when one or the other wins.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:54 AM (HalrA)

271 Now is the time to start balefully wailing for Ace.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:54 AM (Fmupd)

272 Just hideous. Clinton Foundation White House and various federal agencies sold in large part to Muslim interests.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (fWAjv)

273 What's the graduation rate in Detroit? 40% tops. Fuck them, too. Fire all of them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (89T5c)

274 I see that I should just stay away from using the F word even if I quoting other people. It causes me too many problems. ;^)



Also the "dear" word.
You tend to leave a trail of bodies.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (IlQaj)

275 To be fair, people who SAY that if they win the lottery they will give a lot to charity make me roll my eyes.

I would. If only to eliminate the tax hit.

I'd rather send it all to the Catholic Church than a nickel to the government. I agree with the Catholic Church a lot more than I agree with the government (and I'm not Catholic).

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (oVJmc)

276 Paul Ryan sure is a team player. See what that gets? A clear table. For Paul Ryan

Say whatever you like, I've never had representation be they Democrat or Republican. Neither party represents me, and never has. I'm quite tired of being lectured by non representatives. This is why I f'n hate teams, here is a presumed team member telling how it must be. No, it is he who is not a team member. By refusing to listen to Cruz and everybody behind Cruz. Complete failure in perception about who the team is. And that's why they're going the way of the Whigs.

Posted by: bour3 at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (5x3+2)

277 No better friend indeed.


As relations with Israel remained tense, another Clinton confidant, Anne Marie Slaughter, sent a staff-wide email to Clinton staffers recommending that they undertake a 'Pledge for Palestine' campaign aimed at convincing U.S. millionaires and billionaires to donate significant portions of their wealth to the Palestinian cause.


This bitch can NOT get in the White House.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:57 AM (fWAjv)

278 Time to flush Detroilet again.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (89T5c)

279 Backlash??

Please.

How about if we make a bar graph consisting of victims of Muslim terror (death, rape, injury, you know, real victims)
And next to that, the body count of the "backlash"

Lemme know when they're close to equal, and mebbe I'll get concerned.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (kKHcp)

280 Radio news just said Mexico has began the extradition process on that young DUI killer. Also announced that half of the school teachers in Detroit have gone on an illegal strike for higher pay which all the other States will have to pay since Detroit is bankrupt. .
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (t2KH5)

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Margaret Thatcher would like to point point out that they have, indeed, run out of other peoples money.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (8XRCm)

281 We had three flaming skulls the other day for the revelation that Hillary told a minion to strip off a classified label.

The following is potentially much more significant: There's a Fox News report linked on Drudge about how the FBI has expanded its investigation to look at whether the "intersection" of the Clinton Foundation and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws. The story has three confidential sources and also says that as many as 150 FBI agents are working the case. Recall that the FBI has had Hillary's entire e-mail servers for several months.

I've been harping since forever that pay-for-play Clinton Cash is a bigger scandal than Hillary's e-mails and that you could draft an indictment based on what was already in the public domain, if you wanted. Seemingly innocuous e-mails like "Huma make sure I see Mr Big when I'm in Brunei" can serve to connect the dots.

Developing .....

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (r1fLd)

282
The South African president from 1999-2008, didnt believe hiv caused aids. So, he denied antiretroval drugs to aids patients. What a moron!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (iQIUe)

283 Now is the time to start balefully wailing for Ace.


Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (1xUj/)

284 Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (IlQaj)

Not a trail, Just one. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (M+RRn)

285
Dear Liberal Poopyheads.

I might be a little more sympathetic to your fear of "backlash" if you were as concerned about the original "lash".

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (8XRCm)

286 Cruz 2016. No compromise with progressives, which includes the GOPe like McConnell, McCain, Corker, Graham, Hatch, etc.

Take no prisoners Ted.

Posted by: Ray Nitschke 66 at January 11, 2016 12:00 PM (EAUyw)

287 The graduation rate in Detroit for 2008 was 39.1%.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 12:00 PM (t2KH5)

288 Did anyone else get that Cruz fundraising email with the spending totals?

If that's true it's shocking -- it says Cruz has barely spent anything yet. That means the media attention is driving him higher in the polls.

I haven't contributed yet but probably will this month. With Hillary clearly having the broken the law and the careerists in LE and intel reportedly fired up, it looks more and more like this GOP primary will selecting the next leader of the free world.

I like Trump but the idea of him as President of the United States...

Posted by: TallDave at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (74ZYB)

289

Just hideous. Clinton Foundation sold in large part to Muslim interests.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)


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One thing that needs to become clear. We just think Fredo is the worst prez ever. I don't think we could imagine how bad the Hildebeast would be. It would be the absolute death nell for any semblance to a republic.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (Fmupd)

290 Not a trail, Just one. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke



Lol. For now.
Dare you to call Insomniac "dear".
LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (IlQaj)

291 What Alex Castellanos doesn't seem to understand is that we are happy Cruz doesn't "play the game", as he describes it.

We want to change the game.

The game has been terrible for American, and it's got to go as do all it's players.

To the extant Cruz is hated by the game players, and seen as inflexible, we believe our chances are better for radical change.

Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (tLRcG)

292 283 Now is the time to start balefully wailing for Ace.


Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (1xUj/)

Ziggy Ewok???

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (wtvvX)

293 im not sayin i care...only that the citizens are justified, vigilanti justice can get ugly but sometimes there is no other option. let it burn

Posted by: E.T. at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (a67CF)

294 Just didnt want people to ever think I would say "F charity". Does that even sound like something i would say?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)


I don't know, do you suddenly have a goatee?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (mf5HN)

295 Now Donald Trump, HE'S a team player.

He teams up with Democrats, he team up with Dubai oil sheiks...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (Kucy5)

296 Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (r1fLd)

You're absolutely correct. All the Clinton foundation and the State Dept seem to dodoes is sell out American interests to the highest payer. Just traitorous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (M+RRn)

297 "But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary."

Precisely. It takes energy to polarize a molecule. That's why low energy is the way to go.

Jeb! Can! Fix! It!

Posted by: Jeb! at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (nSW/N)

298 Here's what Priebus said on April 26th 2011 when, ironically, Trump was questioning Obama's eligibility;

"Trump and the candidates can talk about it all they want, but my
position is that the president was born in the United States," Priebus
told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor."

So once again the feckless assholes in the GOP do a better job of defending the opposition then someone in their own party. You know, to protect their own squeakholes.

You want to know why people hate the GOP? Exhibit one.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (GGCsk)

299 Who's not a playa?

Posted by: Ted Cruz in a Pimp Coat and Pimp Hat, resting on his Pimp Cane at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (/ciMI)

300 I don't know, do you suddenly have a goatee?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (mf5HN)


*eyes you askance*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (gW5Vg)

301 Holy shit. Vic, I didn't even look it up.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (89T5c)

302 Just didnt want people to ever think I would say "F charity". Does that even sound like something i would say?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)

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**shrugs**

Wouldnt put anything past somebody willing to snuff a grandmother.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (8XRCm)

303 290 Not a trail, Just one. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke



Lol. For now.
Dare you to call Insomniac "dear".
LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (IlQaj)

Hey, what have I ever done to you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (kpqmD)

304 Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie


A space oddity?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)

305 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (mf5HN)

Well, i'm over 50-may have a few stray hairs. Not a goatee- yet

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (M+RRn)

306 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?


Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)

307 Oh, and putting on my tinfoil hat for a moment:

What if Trump is concern-trolling Ted Cruz on the citizenship thing as a way to help Cruz by focusing more media attention on him?

One might wonder if Trump knows there is something in his own past that is likely to force him to drop out eventually, and is just trying to shift the Overton window and influence the nomination process before that happens.

Posted by: TallDave at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (74ZYB)

308 Rush is playing Bowie. What is this world coming to?

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (N8xMd)

309 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?

What did I miss?

Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (/dSsq)

310 Dare you to call Insomniac "dear".

It would be better than calling him dead.
I think I save the "dear' (NO typo) mostly for woman here, but maybe not..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (M+RRn)

311 306 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)



Is that where we drink and talk shit about him?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (gW5Vg)

312 What's the graduation rate in Detroit? 40% tops. Fuck them, too. Fire all of them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (89T5c)

Lottery $$$? I'd start a new educational system in one of these inner-cities. Rub the NEA and AFT's noses in it.

Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (oxcYa)

313 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?

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Why does *he* get to go to his own wake???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (8XRCm)

314 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?


Posted by: Bandersnatch

Just don't put Buzzion in charge of the booze.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (/ciMI)

315 306 So, should we have a pre-funeral for Insomniac?


Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)

I'm not quite dead!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (kpqmD)

316 304 Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie

A space oddity?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)

The vast collection of spandex and codpieces should have been a clue.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (fWAjv)

317
I'm not quite dead!

So you're only mostly dead?

Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (/dSsq)

318 Il-y a un nude

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (1xUj/)

319 If Cruz gets to be the nominee are we going to have BS in the courts about this? Noooooooooooo

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:08 PM (M+RRn)

320 In honor of David Bowie


Day Man v. Night Man

http://tinyurl.com/h8vl7d4

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (fWAjv)

321 Does that even sound like something i would say?


Well, you did out a member of your church in a post the other day, saying that after she won a lottery she didn't increase her donation in the collection plate.

As an aside, I still am curious how you knew what she put in the collection plate each week.
Not being a church goer, I guess I just thought what you gave was between the giver and God.

Posted by: cind at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (nRbbW)

322 317
I'm not quite dead!

So you're only mostly dead?
Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (/dSsq)

*checks pockets*

Still have loose change so I can't be all dead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (kpqmD)

323 Well, i'm over 50-may have a few stray hairs. Not a goatee- yet

Before this gets out of hand, the goatee is a reference to an old Star Trek Original Series episode where the crew has evil doppelgangers.

With goatees.

Even Nurse Chapel (eww).

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 12:10 PM (LUgeY)

324 2 new threads up.

Posted by: HH at January 11, 2016 12:10 PM (DrCtv)

325 Fen, it might take too many words and too much time and energy to really engage with you here, especially on two fronts, but I'll make one try, and try to be concise. Which is dangerous.



I am concerned about your level of indignation. What someone else does with their own is their business, really, and what someone else might mean by f charity might not be what you might think. Far be it for me to take j's side in this, but it's not that out there to think of charities as generally a bad deal and to hold to "charity begins at home." Like Cato said about starting one's own endowment.

That said, it was hilarious that j singled out the Salvation Army - which, as mustbequantum said, "have topped the charity efficiency rankings for many years now" - as if the Army were the Clinton Foundation. I think this shows why it's silly to get so riled up about him! You're being troll-rolled.



As for devil caused Okie quakes, hey, don't turn your indignant cannon on me; I didn't ask about it at the time because I didn't see your comment until later. (Maybe I shouldn't be trying to engage you while you're heated. Daddy always told me not to get in the middle of a dog fight - still learning.) If they're "two unrelated comments" then why relate them? It's just - trying to say "I'm not saying," while juxtaposing statements is a typical Leftie "am too saying" tactic. And you did it again.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in deep, dark watersd at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (zbbA4)

326 Please backup your statements on this issue.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)


The Salvation Army is a religious organization. As far as I know, they don't publish a financial statement.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (Zs4uk)

327 Is that where we drink and talk shit about him?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (gW5Vg)


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Like we don't do that anyway?

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (Fmupd)

328 My late father had only one charity that he ever supported, the Salvation Army, and once he told me why ....
On one of those blood-soaked islands in the Pacific, after the battle, he was walking down a road, and came to a Red Cross trailer that was selling coffee and doughnuts for a nickel apiece. He didn't have a nickel, so he walked on .... and came to a Salvation Army trailer, where he was greeted with "Hi, soldier, have a (free) cup of coffee and a doughnut !". He never forgot that, and neither have I.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (erRNA)

329 As an aside, I still am curious how you knew what she put in the collection plate each week.
Not being a church goer, I guess I just thought what you gave was between the giver and God.

She hasm't been a member of a church I served since 2000

Uhh, because she told me she didn't feel that she needed to give anymore than she had been

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (M+RRn)

330 The Salvation Army does not (and isn't required to) disclose their finances the way most charities do. That said, they don't strike me as a hotbed of rent-seeking liberalism.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 12:13 PM (S+N7W)

331
"I like Rush. I remember his efforts to stop Clinton in 1992, and all the
efforts to stop the Progressive drift of the country since then.
Hannity, Levin, all talked themselves hoarse.

It had zero effect. Zero.

Talk radio has accomplished nothing. They haven't changed one mind -
at least none that matter. The movement to the left has been constant."

Maybe you weren't around before talk radio or when all news came through the big three networks.
The inexorable move to the Left is a function of the world wide decline of Christianity. Irregardless of whether people believe in God, they still need hope and ideology of the Left feeds that.
It's a false hope but people will cling to false hope if there is no alternative.
The worst thing is that the policies of the Left will hurt most the ones who cling to it the hardest.
You can't fight that.
The only thing you can really do is let them go their way and not allow them drag us down with them.
Let Them Burn.

Posted by: rayj at January 11, 2016 12:13 PM (pI/IV)

332 Dang, I took so long on my reply, got willowed by Ace. Well, things to do in so-called real life. L8r, gang.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wading ashore at January 11, 2016 12:14 PM (zbbA4)

333 I read the article. I know, sort of uncharacteristic, but what the hell, right?

The writer cites quotes from some professional athletes, like Lebron James and Mia Hamm, saying "we always put the team first; team success is more important that individual success." That's a non sequitur of the highest order: James and Hamm play for teams that are unites by a team goal, and that goal is winning the game. Their teams don't compete for a strategic tie with their opponents in order to perhaps win in a rematch down the road. They play to win.

In sports, a win is clearly defined: outscoring your opponent to a binary outcome of we win, they lose. The author of the article, and apparently the GOP establishment as well, defines a win as electing people with an R after their name, regardless of what they stand for, and increasing the power and reach of the central government, keeping themselves employed as the elite keepers of the keys. Cruz, on the other hand, defines a win as faithfulness to the Constitution, and preventing bad legislative acts.

The GOP does not understand that their majority was not elected to compromise with the Democrat to pass bills. It was not elected to assist the SCOAMF in enacting his agenda. It was elected to oppose them and successfully stop them.

Perhaps the problem isn't with Cruz; perhaps the problem is the team itself.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 11, 2016 12:15 PM (iIzG7)

334 If Trump/Cruz win the WH, I'll bet two month's pay that the repubs in congress will put impeachment back on the table.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

335 As for devil caused Okie quakes,

Calm down. i was just explaining

I didn't say the devil caused Okie earthquakes. I said that I didn't think they should have had a Satanic Mass in the Convention Center and that they folks who wanted top put up a Bezzlebub loves the little children statue were wrong. if you invite the devil in it's a bad thing

And now I'm not going to apologize for quoting West. That's why he said. and he's a troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (M+RRn)

336 My blog post is late today. I haven't finished my book reading so I put up half of the USMC reading list (entry level)
Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (cbfNE)

337 326 Please backup your statements on this issue.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)


The Salvation Army is a religious organization. As far as I know, they don't publish a financial statement.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (Zs4uk)

It's called. Google or Bing. Try it sometime.

http://salvationarmyannualreport.org/financials

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (JOG+K)

338
" As for me, the guy was American at his birth, and no one has presented any evidence of dual loyalties, so I'm satisfied enough. "

One of the other considerations of dual citizenship, which wasn't even part of the American lexicon when our Constitution was formed, by the way, is that the other country in which a person holds citizenship could make legal claims on "their citizen". The US doesn't really let go of it's citizens even if they renounce their citizenship and naturalize elsewhere. The US also does not, and never has, officially recognized "dual citizenship".

Frankly, the one thing that everyone was in agreement on, prior to obamas election, was that a person must be born on US soil in order to qualify as Constitutional eligible. The only question was if the parents had to be as well. The dems have been trying HARD since 1970 to get Art 2 amended to allow for those not born in this country to be electable. I have read all those congressional records, as well as a chilling one on dual citizenship and immigration. 2006, House of reps. If you want to understand the Nat Act of 1790 then read Horace Binney. I am not looking to support my preferred outcome,I began years ago, before Ted Cruz. I have hundreds of hours of research under my belt yet I don't claim to have THE answer. But I won't vote for anyone who was not born in this country. And yes, I have been commenting here for years. Not daily.

Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 12:29 PM (xhawg)

339 "Frankly, the one thing that everyone was in agreement on, prior to obamas election, was that a person must be born on US soil in order to qualify as Constitutional eligible."

This is false. There isn't agreement on how to read the relevant Constitutional clause. See the cases of Romney's Dad (born in Mexico), Goldwater (born in a US territory) and McCain (born at sea, for all we know).

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 12:34 PM (r1fLd)

340 "This is false. There isn't agreement on how to read the relevant Constitutional clause. See the cases of Romney's Dad (born in Mexico), Goldwater (born in a US territory) and McCain (born at sea, for all we know)"

McCain was born to a person in service to the US, and born in the Panama Canal zone prior to Oct/1/1979 so he was not considered to have been born abroad. Those born in certain territories and outlying possessions were not considered to have been born abroad either. And there was certainly a question about Father Romney - and it's still not settled. As a dual citizen myself, I have always been fascinated with the topic.

Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 12:47 PM (xhawg)

341 Bomb. Cruz arm. GOPe. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 11, 2016 12:50 PM (LeUrG)

342 re:329 Uhh, because she told me she didn't feel that she needed to give anymore than she had been


My mistake, I made the assumption (from your original post I referenced), that you were taking note of the actual donation amounts of parishioners.


re:67: One thing that always made me laugh to myself was that she put in the
same amount of money to the collection-which was much less than some
older people who hadn't won the lottery gave)

Posted by: cind at January 11, 2016 12:51 PM (nRbbW)

343 No, i don't know what people individually give to the church unless they tell me and yes some do, for instance if we're having a stewardship campaignr and they say "I can't give more than 20,00 a week" so if her own elderly mother is laughing and saying, "I give more than ______ does", I know.,not that I know the amount in that case.

Hope that clears it up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 01:02 PM (M+RRn)

344 I am all compromised out of caring for the GOP. had they actually attempted to defeat the socialists once or twice, but Nooooo.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at January 11, 2016 01:25 PM (uaYXs)

345 The best team that could be fielded this election are Cruz and Trump. Both are hard headed and passionate about making America a better place for everybody, not just their chosen butt kissers.

Posted by: Berzrkr50 at January 11, 2016 01:45 PM (BVPMw)

346 "Shouldn't we want an uncompromising conservative wielding the power that Republicans in Congress haven't been able to overcome when Obama uses it to move the country to the right?"

So, Drew thinks Obama has been moving the country to the right. Interesting slip.

Posted by: Demosthenes at January 11, 2016 06:51 PM (9V0rz)

347 234 Trump is the type of asshole that will bring McConnell and Ryan to the Oval Office and tell them that if they don't shape up he'll ruin them politically. Hit them where it will hurt them the most, since both of them are nothing but political whores.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (Fmupd)
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Or personally finance their replacements in their next primary. Nice speakership you got there Paul, be a shame to lose it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 02:03 AM (MbrzC)

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