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Republican Consultants: Don’t Make Ted Cruz The Nominee Because He’s Not A Team Player!
This piece makes a very compelling case, it’s just the opposite of the one the one it’s trying to make.
After laying the blame for the GOP’s leftward lurch upon gaining control of the House and Senate at the feet of conservatives and the disloyal Ted Cruz we get to the part where this is disqualifying for Cruz to be President.Ted Cruz made his choice, as he always has. He selfishly inspires others to do the same. He's not against compromise. He just pushes it down the road. Ted Cruz is the poster boy of the Republican who won't compromise within his party, and so hands funding power to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer, to let them do his work for him. And, unfortunately for the nation, they do. Why? As Anderson notes, Cruz would rather be the martyred leader of a failed cause than a contributor to a successful team. He’s been an outsider in everything he’s done.There were lots of these pieces last month blaming conservatives for the GOP’s complete cave on spending. Here’s the thing…they are CYA blame shifting by Team GOP types to tar their opponents with their mess. Let’s go back a little over a year. Remember the CROmnibus that passed at the end of the session prior to the GOP taking control of the Senate? The idea was they would pass the full year spending but only a short term extension for DHS. The idea, they claimed, was to avoid a shutdown and then take on funding for Obama’s amnesty when the GOP had the Senate. Enough Republicans and conservatives went along with this and then…Mitch McConnell promptly caved and funded Obama’s amnesty (which the GOP funded again last month). Republicans made it clear that they would not take on Harry Reid and Barack Obama or risk a shutdown. That gave the Senate Democratic MINORITY total control over the process. Nothing House Republicans could have done would have changed that calculation. I've written before about why conservatives who care about small government aren’t and shouldn't be interested in the DC notion of compromise. Short version…by definition it leads to bigger government. So how does this render Cruz unfit to be President? It doesn’t. As I said it makes him the ideal, one might say necessary, choice. Presidents aren’t part of a legislative team. They have a separate and independent power base, that as we’ve been told by excuse making Republicans for the last 6 years, is almost impossible to overcome. If Cruz is the rigid ideologue he is being portrayed as (and I have my doubts about that), then he is exactly the man conservatives should want in the White House.
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Politics is a team sport. Skins v. shirts. Redskins v. Cowboys. Democrats v. Republicans. That's how we govern our nation. There is an “R” behind Cruz’s name. That is the party he chose.
Imagine a President who would veto bills because they spend too much, or because they include grants of power to bureaucrats at the expense of citizens or the market place. Shouldn’t we want an uncompromising conservative wielding the power that Republicans in Congress haven’t been able to overcome when Obama uses it to move the country to the right? Republicans have made it clear that conservatives are welcome on the team when it comes to volunteering, donating and voting. But when it comes to reaping the rewards of the team's victories, only certain parts of the "team" will share in them. It's clear that conservatives aren't included in that part of the "team". So Ted Cruz isn’t a “team player”. Given the results of the current GOP roster, that’s music to my ears. Speaking of "team", the current head of Team GOP, Reince Preibus doesn't want to say if one of the leaders for his party's nomination is eligible or not to hold the office. Because...team! Oh and as an aside, was Marco Rubio a “team player” when he worked with Schumer and Obama to advance what he himself defined as “amnesty”? Funny which deviations from “the team” are ok with DC Republicans and which are career ending events.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:31 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:32 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Alan Dershowitz at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (hrMUT)
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2016 10:35 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (LA7Cm)
near as I can tell, Team Player mens not only going along with the Democrats plan, but one-upping them.
Democrats want a 5% tax increase?
let's go for 7%, just to prove we can play along with the other side.
Fuck'em
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (ptqRm)
The only thing that would make this funnier would be for it to be a McConnell quote.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:37 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (5buP8)
So, yeah, the GOP establishment sucks. No question about that. But so does a good friend of Hillary Clinton's who's in favor of stripping 2nd Amendment rights from people placed on the no-fly list, is against defunding those baby harvesters at Planned Parenthood, brazenly contradicts himself on policy (when he bothers trying to explain himself, that is), and generally whines like a baby on Twitter whenever criticized.
Vote Cruz.
Posted by: tops116 at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (Wn+fE)
Kill the Cruz!
Posted by: GOP at January 11, 2016 10:38 AM (cbfNE)
If so, it would seem the problem is that the GOPe doesn't want to play ball with the conservatives, not the other way around.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (yeZ4s)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:39 AM (/ciMI)
Every time I hear the word "team" I think of the scene in The Untouchables where Capone takes a baseball bat to the skull of one of his henchmen.
Fuck "compromise."
Fuck "team."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (X6fMO)
First comment at 10:31.
Could someone appeal to Pixy to set the clocks on the servers? It's simple to get atomic clock time off the net automatically to keep in sync with reality. There's no excuse for the time being off by several minutes.
Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (/ciMI)
Looks like ISIS isn't as JV as our Feckless Leader would like us to think they are.
Analyze
Adapt
Improvise
These are not stupid people.
http://tinyurl.com/z7cd2f2
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:36 AM (5buP
My friend's kid is in college to "learn how to build bridges and then blow them up."
He's such a sweet kid, too.
Posted by: GOP at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (cbfNE)
You know, victory.
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: EndOfPatience at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (lW95N)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (Fmupd)
Seems that's what the RINOS do not want.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (9JJgN)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (N8xMd)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (hrMUT)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (yeZ4s)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:34 AM
Might have been worse. Might be alone in teh Barrel.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 11, 2016 10:41 AM (me6xG)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:42 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Donald Trump at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (TAkZ9)
It's a delay so Pixy can bleep out any foul language before it hits the interwebz
Posted by: McCool at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (TQxRy)
Ya know.....
Trump had oughtta resurrect the "support the eventual Republican nominee plege" a cram a fucking metric ton schadenfraude up the GOPe's ass.
I would rub Jebs nose in that until he quits.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 10:43 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (yeZ4s)
So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (r1fLd)
Oh, FFS.
The only policy victories they've been able to advance are all Democrat--through and through. And they are fine with that, 'cause "Go Team R!!"
Add this asshole to the pile of asshole who still refuse to believe there are legitimate reasons to support Trump.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (fQ/0p)
I'd also like to know what "team" they're talking about, because I suspect it is Team DC Insiders, who value those across the aisle, the MSM, and K Street more than the people they supposedly represent.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 10:44 AM (NOIQH)
Like who, for instance?
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:45 AM (evdj2)
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Imagine the exploding heads in DC if this happens.
Better than Mars Attacks!
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (gmeXX)
Like who, for instance?
Like George Pataki.
He built a massive consensus that nobody wanted him as president.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 10:46 AM (yeZ4s)
Why would they? He's such a charisma vacuum that his being in probably makes things worse for Clinton and Sanders.
Also, if you didn't see it, Insty has a post about 3 different children's picture books that just came out that all are about how Hillary is the Best In All The Land. Someone needs to Photoshop the heck out of one of them.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (S+N7W)
Maybe the tactic should simply be "support the candidate that the liberals hate with the white hot rage of a million suns."
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (9JJgN)
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (fQ/0p)
"Ted Cruz is the poster boy of the Republican who won't compromise within his party" -- as opposed to all of the other poster boys who have done nothing but compromise and are responsible for the phenomenon of the horrible Ted Cruz.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (s/yC1)
My suspicion is that the Trump and Cruz polling is solid ... and that the GOPe desperation is going to grow exponentially up to Iowa.
Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (E7zwb)
I wasn't trying to be mean, btw. I was just pointing out that you run with the candidates you have. Cruz seems to be the best of the bunch if you go by his stated intentions. And he's a Texan, albeit a naturalized one.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (evdj2)
Cruz isn't a "team" player. He's more on OUR team than theirs. He's not on team gravy train (I hope).
Gervais has and sadistic sense of humor. Idiot Abroad proves this. His humor is is as cruel as I have ever heard. He is an ugly little man inside and out.
Cannot think of any other "comedian" I would describe this way.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (N8xMd)
If he wins the nomination I think that would be evidence of the ability to be a consensus builder.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:48 AM (TAkZ9)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (9JJgN)
-Things Rinse Pubis says after Cruz wins the first 2 primaries
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (/zA5D)
My theory goes something like this: Lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Dems for Hillary (especially butt hurt Bernie followers when he loses to her) makes this a perfect opportunity to take back the White House.
But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary. So, not sure about Ted..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (so+oy)
Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (s/yC1)
Executive experience is overrated and is often used for an excuse one way or the other.
I think Trump and Cruz would do just fine.
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:50 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (evdj2)
-Things Rinse Pubis says after Cruz wins the first 2 primaries
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:49 AM (5buP
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Hey. Rinse.
Ive built a pretty big concensus that youre a fucking weasel douchenozzle.
Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
Bush ran on doing a No Child Left Behind program. It wasn't a surprise thrown at us after the election.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 10:51 AM (TAkZ9)
Do a right-click and View Page Source. The black diamonds are there even in the text source. I haven't a clue why this happens, but I've never seen it on any other site. It's only on acecomments.mu.nu, not the main page.
And based on my last post, the server time is 7 minutes off.
/curmudgeon mode
Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 10:52 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Turd
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Diamond Shoals
There used to be a lightship. Pic:
http://tinyurl.com/hn2z29u
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2016 10:52 AM (oFSUK)
The comments server doesn't support unicode, for some reason, while the mainpage does.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (evdj2)
Any GOP nominee, no matter how far to the left, will be trumpeted by liberal blogs/media as the Second Coming of Jen-jiss Khan in order to wind up the base voters. Mitt Romney was portrayed as EXTREEEEM pretty much all of 2012, and it worked.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (S+N7W)
"In August 2013 Ted Cruz claimed to not be aware that he was a Canadian citizen, that he learned about it from reading a newspaper article. Upon being informed he said, "assuming it's true", he'd renounce his Canadian citizenship. In Jan. 2016 Breitbart publishes an interview with a buddy of Ted Cruzs' from collage, in which that friend mentioned how he and Ted had discussed Teds dual Canadian/US citizenship while attending Princeton. He told how Cruz identified as a dual citizen at the border during a trip together to Canada. 2015/2016 Cruz declares that he is certainly a natural born Citizen as intended and required by Art. 2 Section 1 clause 5, in the US Constitution, yet says this; "As you know, I was born in Canada. My mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of my birth. She was a U.S. citizen from birth so, under U.S. law, I'm an American citizen by birth." "Beyond that," he added, "I will leave the legal consequences of those facts to others to worry about."
No one questioned if he was a statutory citizen. We know HE didn't have to "naturalize" because his mother did it for him when she filled out the paperwork, and presented proof of her own US citizenship at the Canadian consulate.
Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 10:53 AM (xhawg)
So, much as I like Ted as a bomb thrower, he needs to demonstrate that he can be an effective manager and consensus builder.
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Oh, you mean like being governor....like Kasich.
Kasich Kasich, he's our man! Let's give Kasich a great big hand!
TEEEAAMMM KASICH!! YAY!!
*runs to vomit*
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (Fmupd)
I got as far as 'Erick Erickson', and bailed.
Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest
You didn't like this?:
"First, for those who dont know Erick Erickson as I do, he is a wonderful human being and as solidly conservative as the greatest of all powers could create."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2016 10:54 AM (MQEz6)
"Let me suggest that in doing so, however, they sell the conservative
cause short. There are more than a few Washington consultants, and even
members of the DC establishment, who are just as conservative as any
Cruz supporter."
Are you fucking kidding me?!
There's "out of touch" and then there's this "the Sun rises in the West" level of delusion.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (fQ/0p)
Even he/she would be preferable to the troll J-"I hope to win the Powerball but f...any charity other than my charity by myself to my family" West
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (M+RRn)
No thanks.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (LUgeY)
I find this one of the most unimportant considerations. I wouldn't really care if Cruz was born in Canada of Canadian parents.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (s/yC1)
Oh no. George P., Jeb's son, is Texas Land Commissioner and grooming to be Guv' some day. Ugh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (LA7Cm)
Cruz should be a team player!
Posted by: Sen. Lisa Meerkatski at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (j4wsR)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (kdS6q)
The comments server doesn't support unicode, for some reason, while the mainpage does.
Posted by: Grump928
#twoweeks
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 10:56 AM (IlQaj)
Oh joy, birthers.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (S+N7W)
You're not alone, but merciful not part of a large group. As for me, the guy was American at his birth, and no one has presented any evidence of dual loyalties, so I'm satisfied enough. He's certainly more American that then SCoaMF, or even Hillary or Bernie by my reasoning.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: In the bunker at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (pnRrB)
It's your fault we now control the Senate and the House, because our plan was to continue to let all the show votes from the republican House die in the Democrat Senate.
Well, the hell with you! We will continue to do what WE want to do. Except now, we'll have our shills in the "conservative punditry" blame you, and Ted Cruz. At least if we manage to lose yet another slam dunk presidential race, we have our scapegoat ducks in a row.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Billy "horndog" Clinton at January 11, 2016 10:58 AM (WIfAR)
Paul Ryan says the GOP needs to be the "proposition party".
Come on Dude, we already know you are a bunch of whores!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (kFnmp)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (HSmrB)
Posted here before or are you here to knock Cruz-from the Trump campaign perhaps?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:59 AM (M+RRn)
At least for me.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (cbfNE)
That being said, its time for the purge. I think Drew and Ace have both mentioned how the GOPe got back control of Congress too fast. Because Obama was too awful. And because they got power back so fast, too many of the old guard, who caused our problems in the first place, were able to stay, and with seniority are now in powerful leadership positions. Guys like Ryan and Scalise have to go. So that fresh blood can come in and try to fix the mess they made.
Posted by: Iblis at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (9221z)
Pennsylvania Mayor pulls police security from gunshow.... because they oppose his gun control policies.
http://tinyurl.com/js5dqmk
Washington Free Bacon
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (8XRCm)
Not really a criticism, but Drew greatly understates the GOP's failure to oppose and exercise its share of actual power, esp. since 2010. Most people do.
The GOP has failed to use the utterly conventional, long established tools the voters gave it to shape policy and budgets since 2010. Let alone the "extraordinary" ones - such as filibusters (or more to the point, abolishing same).
Cruz barely dipped his toe in some of the very ho-hum conventional sort of things that are part and parcel of Congress' power under the constitution and in practice during our history. For this some consider him a "bomb-thrower" - which is darkly comical.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (QDnY+)
These imbeciles couldn't catch a clue if it forced itself into their hands. Why do they think that this would be an effective tack, when anyone with half a brain can see that the reason Trump and Cruz are atop the polls is that people are done with the GOPe.
Keep on talking, please. Because I want Cruz to win.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (OkKDg)
I like Phyllis Schlafley's comments: Trump could be the end of the GOPe
"king makers." All those party hacks need to go away. Way, far away.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 11, 2016 10:40 AM (5buP
I'd like to see a lot of the talkers go with them. The NRO crowd, those types. The useless shills you see on the news. All hot air that's accomplished nothing except prop up the status quo.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (4ErVI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (M+RRn)
What the Hell does that mean?
Propose...amnesty? Propose....more Syrians? Propose....more spending? That kind of "proposition?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (LA7Cm)
Better a Canadian preezy than a muzzy Indonesian one.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (LUgeY)
It's a con perpetrated on the naive.
They are not a governing party.
They are a scheme to funnel money to connected players and operatives, nothing more.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (jqOIu)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 10:55 AM (M+RRn)
True, if I won the Powerball I would insure the financial security of my family for generations to come.
Or, I could buy a BigMac, fries and a Coke for everyone in Bangladesh and get my picture in the paper for a day.
I'll stick with taking care of the family.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:01 AM (Zs4uk)
Media delenda est.
Which auto cucumber wants to turn into
Media depends rest.
Which is also on point.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (cbfNE)
... I could give a shit where Ted comes from. When the opposition suddenly starts behaving as Strict Constructionists - so will I.
Until then ? Fuck you. War.
Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (E7zwb)
Posted by: Donna, Seriously? at January 11, 2016 11:02 AM (of67s)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (Fmupd)
Republicans honestly can't complain about a lmited selection. We've had some good choices this time around.
Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (UWlp+)
Oh joy, birthers.
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Is this what a birther is? I'm not sure. If someone wants to add that to his own personal criteria as to who they will or won't vote for - so be it. I don't have a problem with where Ted was born, but I don't really care that others do. As another commenter stated, this is a very small group of voters.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: mindful webworker - pro foundly at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (zbbA4)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 11:04 AM (FkBIv)
It wouldn't surprise me at this point at all.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (ptqRm)
Of course, it won't accept comments then...
(YMMV)
Posted by: mindful webworker - technically squeaking at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (zbbA4)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (OkKDg)
The Establishment has become the Whigs. When the Whigs became politically irrelevant, the Republicans replaced them. Now there's not a nickel's worth of difference between what the Establishment and the Democrats vote for. They vote the same on everything! They will also be replaced.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (HalrA)
It just seems like hot air to me.
Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)
So, I thank you, Moron.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:06 AM (evdj2)
It just seems like hot air to me.
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Well I would. I suspect many on this board would. Of course it may depend on what you mean by a lot.
In fairness, part of my motivation would be to give to charity so as not to give it to the government.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (gmeXX)
Washington Free Bacon
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:00 AM (8XRCm)
Sounds like they need to get the Barrett treatment and the companies that supply them with firearms and ammo either: a) hike their prices by 60% plus a surcharge or b) totally refuse to service them at all.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (GUBah)
It just seems like hot air to me.
Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)
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Yeah. I want to stand up at the podium and announce Im giving half my 1.3 Billion to the NRA.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (M+RRn)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (Nwg0u)
I have pointed out to the Lord that were I to win, it would be at least $50M toward his works. Not bargaining per se, just noting.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (evdj2)
Baghdad has a mall???
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (8XRCm)
Republicans honestly can't complain about a lmited selection. We've had some good choices this time around. Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:03 AM (UWlp+)
But aside from Trump and Cruz, the party money machine crushed them and the scum rose to the top. There's only two dogs in this fight that we can still get behind. Either of those two, or America's going to be circling the drain too tightly to float back up when the flushing's done.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (HalrA)
It seems to be the kiss of death.
The craziest little voice in my head thinks he's the star of the Truman Show, and the audience loves to watch him despair at losing politically.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (kKHcp)
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I'll see your $50M and go to $75M. Just noting.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:08 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:09 AM (E7zwb)
I'm switching my support from Fiorina to Cruz. I liked Jindal, too. And Perry.
Posted by: troyriser
Thanks for the kiss of death.
Posted by: "Ted" Cruz
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2016 11:09 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2016 11:10 AM (ODxAs)
That's about right. Give Conservatives no credit for the GOPe GAINING CONTROL. Just blame Conservatives for the leftward lurch. That's some devious logic right there.
at 96 Rhomboid probably said it better above than I did.
I'm about to the point of going all in for Trump regardless of the unknowns of a Trump Administration.
Just to see the GOPe burn.
Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oxcYa)
This idiot confuses the party-oriented parliamentary systems everyone else in the world has with the American Constitutional architecture. Political parties are the centers of all governmental systems ... except for ours, where political parties aren't even Constitutional entities.
No big surprise that the Vichy GOP douchebags wouldn't have a clue as to how the American Constitutional Republic is supposed to work. They, as the democrats they collaborate with, wish that we had the shitty party-oriented, unlimited, unseparated, centralized parliamentary systems that the rest of the world has limped along with while America blew past them all.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (zc3Db)
I don't see Cruz rocking the boat when it comes to immigration like Trump will, and that's what needs to happen if this country has a prayer.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (kaR4c)
Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (tLRcG)
Just noting.
Posted by: Irony at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (E7zwb)
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (gmeXX)
I'd use my winnings to create an endowment for my own charitable institution. You can't guarantee that other charities staff wouldn't be living high on the hog off of your giving, and you wouldn't need to be a part of the rat race anymore, so why not run your own and spend the rest of your life making the world suck a bit less?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (0O7c5)
Crony capitalists have the GOPe.
The rest of us have nothing. No representation.
Until Trump. He will not give us everything we might want - I expect "gay marriage" will stay, as will widespread abortion, and probably affirmative action - but he will be a huge step in the right direction, in both senses of the word.
Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 11, 2016 10:47 AM (9JJgN)
And that is why I'll pull the lever for Trump if he is the nominee.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (JOG+K)
Give 'em Chik-Fil-A ;^)
Nobodies money was actually. It's merely West capering with his clown nose on while he dances with the straw men
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:13 AM (M+RRn)
Ditto.
Team Players produce no Leaders.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (TAkZ9)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (evdj2)
republicans aren't team players .....fuck them......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (0O7c5)
They decided to play scorched earth and vote with the Democrats rather than accommodate the Tea Party and give up on their unlimited spending and globalist horseshit. Fuck 'em with a cactus, they're dead to me.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (659DL)
We're going right or crazy, feel free to join us.
Posted by: Actual R Voters at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (DL2i+)
But saying ahead of time seems kinda fake to me. I am reacting actually to a talk show on the radio - they were blathering on about powerball and one of them pipes up - "imagine, with a billion dollars you could solve world hunger!"
I would guess that if you are charitable now, if you win a lot of money you will still be charitable. If you are selfish now you will still be selfish.
If I were to win big, helping my own family, then extended family around the world, then anonymous charity (mainly for pro-life and vets ) would be my list. Huh, that's actually also my list for the little money I have now. What a coincidence.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (cbfNE)
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Wouldn't be the worst ticket. If Cruz were to win, who he selects is going to be interesting. Does he decide to go complete outsider or does he follow Reagan and try to bring back in the establishment somehow.
I'm just hopeful I get to see that decision.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (gmeXX)
the Democrats rather than accommodate the Tea Party and give up on their
unlimited spending and globalist horseshit. Fuck 'em with a cactus,
they're dead to me.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:14 AM (HalrA)
amen
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (0O7c5)
Can't wait to find out how much of a team player these consultants will be when the nominee is someone they hate.
Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 11:15 AM (tLRcG)
At least for me.
There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what the term "conservative" means. The MFM has painted a picture for the LIV's of an inbred, knuckle-dragging, trailer trash toothless imbecile who has to be told what to think.
The rest of us gaze upon that caricature with wonder. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Conservatives want to conserve the principles that have made this country the most free, the most innovative and successful society the world has ever seen. One needn't look at much history to see that we've done more to raise the standard of living for the whole world than anyone before us.
Among those principles are equality before the law (and laws that makes sense), freedom for everyone to live in peace among like-minded people, truth and the right to be properly and accurately informed so we can govern ourselves. Throw in some Christian values such as the notion of family as the bedrock of society (consisting of a man and a woman) too.
Chief among those values is the right to be left alone in peace, something which the Left absolutely refuses to do.
Now, someone needs to 'splain it to me why the GOPe and all their minions aren't promoting these values and ideas every time they get near a microphone. If they did, we wouldn't be in the shitty situation we're currently in and the election of a radical far-leftist such as TFP (twice) would not have been possible.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (LUgeY)
But watching one of his things over the weekend, I worry a lot of the noise is just noise. For example he was talking about lawsuits or something and said who knows more about lawsuits than me? Well, lawyers for one.
I don't know. I'm still not really picking anyone yet. I'm just watching.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (4ErVI)
Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (JrKKc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (M+RRn)
You simply can't imagine someone who doesn't think the same way you do.
Do you think the Salvation Army is an upstanding organization? They hide their finances behind the cloak of a religious organization. How much of what they collect is spent on the poor?
Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Zs4uk)
1. When property values and the employment rate in DC is going down, and going up in the rest of the country.
2. When Iran and North Korea fear the US gubmint, and US citizens don't.
3. When the number of regulations and laws shrinks for the year.
4. When federal employees start going to jail at the same rate as state employees for misconduct.
5. When it is at least as easy to fire a public worker as a private worker.
6. When our fighter jets, sent on sorties, come back to base for fresh bombs rather than fresh fuel.
And to stay on topic, go Cruz and f*ck McConnell.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (gyKtp)
There's plenty of consultancy gravy left on the privatization biscuit before the whole thing winds up puked out behind the Waffle House.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (DL2i+)
133 Trump is a far more effective asshole to the Establishment. Plus I think he just has a better shot at actually winning the thing and bringing a new coalition of voters with him.
I don't see Cruz rocking the boat when it comes to immigration like Trump will, and that's what needs to happen if this country has a prayer.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (kaR4c)
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I have to admit, I don't really trust Cruz on the immigration issue which is a big deal to me. I'd still vote for him, but just for the sake of stopping the foreign invasion we have now, I'm going with Trump in the primaries.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (Fmupd)
Posted by: General Zod at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (0O7c5)
Yeah, Mitch McConnell lies to his fellow GOP Senators to get one of those "compromises" passed and Cruz is the bad guy for calling Mitch a liar. That's Lefty logic - play victim after striking first.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (NOIQH)
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A remarkably Obamaesque tantrum. The guy is a spoiled brat.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (oFSUK)
So you do have some charitable giving in mind and thats great. People saying they would give it all away are not being realistic. That's quite different than saying "F charity".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (M+RRn)
Yeah, Mitch McConnell lies to his fellow GOP Senators to get one of those "compromises" passed and Cruz is the bad guy for calling Mitch a liar. That's Lefty logic - play victim after striking first
Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (NOIQH)
One can always rationalize being an uncharitable fuck. It's in our nature.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:18 AM (evdj2)
Keeping Italian automakers in business IS charitable.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (dwHMP)
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A remarkably Obamaesque tantrum. The guy is a spoiled brat.
Honestly, why would you need police presence at a gun show?
Isn't everyone packing?
Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (JrKKc)
There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what the term "conservative" means. The MFM has painted a picture for the LIV's of an inbred, knuckle-dragging, trailer trash toothless imbecile who has to be told what to think.
Hey, you forgot the most important part of being the leftists' bete noir: cousin-humping. Can't forget the cousin-humping.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (j4wsR)
One can always rationalize being an uncharitable fuck. It's in our nature.
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Some charities are better than others.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (evdj2)
I do. There's so much joy in helping others.
Also I suspect jwest is not as scroogey as he pretends to be online.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:20 AM (evdj2)
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Aaaand isn't this exactly why we need the 2nd Amendment - petty leaders who will selectively protect citizens/enforce laws based on politics?
They should thank him for such a clear demonstration of what tyranny looks like.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (NOIQH)
Just to see the GOPe burn. Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oxcYa)
We don't know what we're getting with Trump. But even if he's a just a salesman, he might actually try uphold his end of the bargain in order to build a legacy. You have to be good to get your face on Rushmore, and Trump likes putting his brand on things...
We do know what we're getting with any candidate the Establishment would back. A knife in the front. They won't give us anything we want, ever.
Either Trump or Cruz might give us a knife in the back. Cruz isn't 100% a saint, remember how he caved on the Trans-Pacific
Partnership, which was another of Obama's "pass it to find out what's in
it" packages full of shit. Trump's age means we're not going to get another chance with him. Let's put him in just to make the Establishments squeal, and Cruz as the VP. On the chance that they're both honest, we could have 16 years of epic Oval Office domination in the pipe...
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (HalrA)
I would take the over on that bet.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:21 AM (evdj2)
POP
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That is a great point and should be brought up more often.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:17 AM (0O7c5)
What are you going to do?!?! Let THEM win????
This is the most important election in our lifetime! We (that means you) need to stand united blahblahblahbalhdfjsalfj......
Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Wendy at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (bpemY)
This is the most important election in our lifetime! We (that means you) need to stand united blahblahblahbalhdfjsalfj......
Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (kKHcp)
*snort*
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:22 AM (0O7c5)
I like Rush. I remember his efforts to stop Clinton in 1992, and all the efforts to stop the Progressive drift of the country since then. Hannity, Levin, all talked themselves hoarse.
It had zero effect. Zero.
Talk radio has accomplished nothing. They haven't changed one mind - at least none that matter. The movement to the left has been constant.
Where I do see some hope today is in the extreme right writing on the web. Some of their opinions are quite despicable, but they do force people to think, at least the ones who haven't lived in the Matrix all their lives and know nothing else.
Posted by: despair at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (VrdxH)
Of course, I generally ignore some folks' stuff, rather than engage and encourage them to post more. And prefer the positive approach, like when Jesus praised the widow's mites.
But then, I'm still a bit dumbfounded that you associated Oklahoma's earthquakes with a few devil-worshiping idiots the other day.
Are you getting enough Vitamin D this winter?
Posted by: mindful webworker - what th' at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (zbbA4)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:12 AM (HalrA)
The trouble with this plan is that within a few generations, the professional foundation bureaucrats will take over and start funneling money to causes that you hate.
Trust your great grandchildren to make the right choices.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Zs4uk)
It just seems like hot air to me.
Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)
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Yeah. I want to stand up at the podium and announce Im giving half my 1.3 Billion to the NRA.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:07 AM (8XRCm)
All the right heads would explode. It would be a thing of beauty.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (kpqmD)
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Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (dwHMP)
And even the most air-tight trust can be broken: see the *private* Barnes art collection in Philadelphia.
You can't take it with you, and you can't control it after it's given, so you just have to take joy in the giving to whom you think will handle it best.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:24 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (evdj2)
For Heaven's sake, Trump advocates socialized healthcare. There is nothing 'right' about him. Hispositions of the moment sometimes coincideor intersect with positions held by conservative voters, but the man himself is not conservative.
Should also be pointed out thatTrump eminent domained the shit out of homeowners in New York in order to build alimousine garage, and he also witheld portions of his father's estate from his brother's family out of spite--even though his own infant nephew desperately needed medical care.
Oh, and yeah: his thoughts on Putin's murderousness? 'We do it too'? Really? The guy's a certifiedasshole, a borderline fucking monster, a meglomaniac, and some of you want to make him President.
However, I do understand Trump's daughter is very hittable, if you know what I mean. Trump said so himself.
Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (UWlp+)
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:19 AM (DL2i+)
Exactly. And what about all the hookers and strippers who need your support?
Not to mention the ValuRite Corp. They always could use a few bucks.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 11:25 AM (N8xMd)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (DL2i+)
In his pre-Senate days, Cruz's was mostly an appellate lawyer, at which he excelled. Appellate lawyers usually don't have the personal skills to be effective executives or even trial lawyers. That's often why they're appellate lawyers.
Utter BS.
Posted by: brainpimp at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (492G/)
i'll vote for Trump.
i might vote for Cruz, because i don't really trust him, and i held my nose for the last time voting for mittens.
the rest of them aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell, and, since i live in #Failifornia, who will lockstep vote for whomever has a (D) after their name, it doesn't really matter if i vote for that office.
Trump, OTOH, might just carry this state.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:26 AM (wIatL)
Republicans have made it clear that conservatives are welcome on the team when it comes to volunteering, donating and voting. But when it comes to reaping the rewards of the team's victories, only certain parts of the "team" will share in them. It's clear that conservatives aren't included in that part of the "team".
Republicans are supposedly the party of results, not rhetoric. Why is it that when I survey the results of the Republicans and comment thereupon, suddenly I'm a child who doesn't know how the game is played.
Here's a hint. It's not a game. It's not teams. Compromise is not a good in and of itself.
The Republicans have indicated, by both action and deed, that me and my views just aren't their bag, baby. But somehow the Republicans are still owed my vote. That doesn't precisely sit well with me. To say nothing of logic.
Spare me the oh oh oh oh oh but Hillary is so much worse emotionally manipulative patheticness. If you want to argue from a game theory pov that voting for the Republican is a necessary evil in order to prevent Hillary from winning, fine. That's a reasonable position. IF YOU DON'T VOTE GOP THEN YOU ARE THE REASON THE DEMS WIN OMFG UR SO STUPID!!11!@ASDKJFH is not.
Also, I am already seeing the rumblings of well that pledge for all the candidates to support the GOP nominee doesn't really mean we have to support Trump if it's him because Trump. If (heaven forfend) that comes to pass? I shall be a pettier bitch about it than the Horde presumes I shall be.
That it is even being discussed demonstrates why I and others have such contempt for much of the GOP. Unilateral loyalty is not loyalty at all. It's a demand for obsequiousness.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (cbfNE)
to my mind, the moment in time that link speaks towards is when the establishment had enough of Cruz. He had previously played ball by financing Cochran then attempted to play both sides of the ensuing controversy.
note, I don't say he had a change of heart. I can't know that, neither can anyone else.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (evdj2)
We don't know what we're getting with Trump. But even if he's a just a salesman, he might actually try uphold his end of the bargain in order to build a legacy
I figure that in the end, with Trump we'll get MAYBE 10% of what we want, with my guy Cruz, I'm thinking 20%.
But with the GOPe rat fuckers I have absolute confidence that we'll get exactly 0 point 0% of what we want.
I'm totes okay with 10%.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (j4wsR)
Thank God you threw that "bitch" in there at the end. I was starting to get worried.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (gW5Vg)
I admire them tremendously and they are the only charity (aside from very local) that I would ever consider giving serious money.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Soona
That's where I'm leaning.
Let's pretend Cruz "learned his lesson" and is no longer the squish on immigration with the long paper trail.
It's not that I think he shoves Amnesty down our throat, he'll just do what every other President has done which is pretend it's not a problem and put some window dressing on it while we slip further into a 3rd world country.
Plus, I just don't think Cruz has the political skills to actually win an election, he has a big charisma defecit. I could see an LIV being turned off by him
Posted by: Tobasco at January 11, 2016 11:29 AM (kaR4c)
It just seems like hot air to me.
Ymmv.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:05 AM (cbfNE)
If we're talking about a piddly million, sure. 1.3 billion? How would you even begin to spend that much money?
And I always assume people are thinking of tax implications as well. First thing you would do is meet with a financial advisor and figure that bit out.
Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:30 AM (lIU4e)
The Left's trope is that conservatives have no ideas or counter-proposals for what the Dems want to do.
The truth is that we don't believe the Fed Govt has any business doing any of the things that the left wants to do.
So the Dems say we want to provide healthcare for all Americans with Obamacare. What do you conservatives propose for providing healthcare for all Americans ? You're just the party of opposition w/o any ideas (that we like)
It's like telling your kids that starting next week, there's no more soda or candy allowed in the house and your turning off cable TV. You're the bad guy who doesnt want people to be happy.
Posted by: McCool at January 11, 2016 11:30 AM (TQxRy)
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Zs4uk)
That's the plan. By creating an endowment, I meant an investment vehicle that would suppy the charity with a large yearly budget until the world economy goes bust, time ends, or gold can be made in a lab.
The charity becomes a family business that, according to law, can spend something like up to 38% on salaries...
I call it the enlightened self interest plan. Take care of your family and those who you think really need it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)
Yep. Now get in line!
Posted by: RedTeam foam-finger waving GOPe pundit at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (kKHcp)
then i'll find a place down south and start a company making new M-1 Garands for the civilian market.
i'll let you know when the IPO is ready... ;-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (wIatL)
Headsplosions and a wall with TRUMP written on it might be all we can get this go round. Either is significant improvement.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (DL2i+)
Charitable shaming? West said "Fuck Charity" I was responding to the unfortunatelcomment of his I was quoting HIM. Whenever i say "F charity:" in connection with West it is in connection with that-NOT that I say or think F charity
And as I noted I don't think God causes earthquakes. It was two unrelated comments-that I still think they (OK folks) should n't have allowed the Satanist to have a black mass in the convention center (after that the woman was beheaded) and that I thought there was some talk about the militant Atheits/Stanist group trying to take down the ten commandments and out up a "Bezzlebub loves the little children" statue. .
Sorry if i wasn't clear. It might be a good idea to ask what I mean at the time so you don't think I'm going off the deep end of need additionsl vitamins
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (M+RRn)
Love and Despair, I haz it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:31 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (DL2i+)
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Lottery winnings are actually pretty easy. If you choose the cash option.... send HALF to the fed and state. And if you live in Kansas City, MO..... send 1% to them.
My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (gW5Vg)
My theory goes something like this: Lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Dems for Hillary (especially butt hurt Bernie followers when he loses to her) makes this a perfect opportunity to take back the White House.
But any polarizing Repub nominee will invigorate those voters to vote AGAINST him, if not FOR Hillary. So, not sure about Ted..
Filed under theory to make sure you never win, only run candidates the dems are happy with. Got it.
Posted by: brainpimp at January 11, 2016 11:33 AM (492G/)
I shall be a pettier bitch about it than the Horde presumes I shall be.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)
Will there be flamethrowers?
I like flamethrowers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)
And I shall rescue the cheerleaders.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (LUgeY)
I like flamethrowers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)
Of course!
But wee little ones so the Empress can use them as well.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (gW5Vg)
Nor do I want the Cannot-Turn-Off-Presidential-Alerts functionality that would (by law) accompany any upgrade or modification.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (erRNA)
She need merely point with an Imperial Paw.
Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (evdj2)
It's just that I'm going to vote for the doer this time around.
Posted by: Drider at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (bdzyz)
Will there be flamethrowers?
I like flamethrowers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (j4wsR)
Of course!
But wee little ones so the Empress can use them as well.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:34 AM (gW5Vg)
Tough to attach backpack straps to a Bic lighter, I imagine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (j4wsR)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:27 AM (mf5HN)
Although I'm probably more in your 'game theory' camp (ie, very little chance I won't vote against Hillary, whatever option we get on the republican side - if for no other reason than things like administrative staffing/judges/etc), this is absolutely true.
If voting republican results in literally nothing being done, what is the point? If they aren't even serving as a hedge against worse, than they've lost their only remaining purpose.
Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (Cq0oW)
Oh, pettier ... that too...
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:28 AM (gW5Vg)
I'm trying to save up some vitriol for later, in case I need it.
And where, oh where, oh where could you have heard such statements before? *taps chin*
It's a mystery.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at January 11, 2016 11:35 AM (evdj2)
I have a feeling she'll want to set some things ablaze personally.
Tough to attach backpack straps to a Bic lighter, I imagine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (j4wsR)
Now come on, that's just absurd. We'll use zippos.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (M+RRn)
Republican is a necessary evil in order to prevent Hillary from winning,
fine.
And that might have been good enough when the back and forth of politics wobbled around a sustainable trajectory.
19T$+, 200T$+, 30M+ illegals, Global Hirabism, (the word sustainable being hijacked as a religion by fuckwits who think a snail is holey), etc. aren't going to be wobbled back into sustainability.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:37 AM (DL2i+)
that's easy: my children all have 4 legs and a tail, so they can't get any worse than they already are...
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (wIatL)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (Fmupd)
Posted by: John D. Rockefeller at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (2WoCi)
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United Way.
Should all be united in prison.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (8XRCm)
being done, what is the point? If they aren't even serving as a hedge
against worse, than they've lost their only remaining purpose.
Posted by: Lea at January 11, 2016 11:36 AM (lIU4e)
This is why I keep calling them the new Whigs. They have become completely politically irrelevant. They serve no purpose. America does not want nor need two Far Left parties that embrace globalism and want to destroy America as a nation and culture to further their utopian schemes.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (HalrA)
Are you getting enough Vitamin D this winter?
Are you allowing for some remorse over her role in the murder of Grammie Winger?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: John D. Rockefeller at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (2WoCi)
Ain't that the damn truth.
Posted by: Sam Walton at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:39 AM (M+RRn)
Maybe if I win, I will ask his advice.
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (cbfNE)
http://cheezburger.com/3928809472
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:32 AM (DL2i+)
Needz moar Browns players being hit by meteors but other than that, it's pretty accurate.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 11, 2016 11:40 AM (evdj2)
My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.
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Solve both problems, give a lot to charity now, so you do not give half (40%) to the feds and do not leave your children with more than they can handle. I assume you will still leave your children with quite a bit.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (M+RRn)
My big fear is how do you not tear your family apart or turn you children into Paris Hilton.
Easy.
#1. If you weren't at my father's funeral, fuck you. Don't call me.
#2. I don't have kids.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (IlQaj)
Wherever there are people giving money to feel good about themselves, there are thieves on the other end waiting to take it.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Zs4uk)
Please backup your statements on this issue.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)
#1. If you weren't at my father's funeral, fuck you. Don't call me.
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I was there. In the back.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (gmeXX)
What we want is what we once had before the government decided to control a market it knows nothing about: a free-market solution with healthcare plans that are portable across state lines and customizable, much like auto insurance. And no byzantine regulations run by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats in DC.
And yeah, it's perfectly OK if there are some companies who make money from it.
Prog/Coms never mention what we would replace the clusterfuck of ObamaCare with. We keep saying that, and they keep ignoring it as though we don't have a plan. Again, why aren't Repumpkin minions not mentioning this at every opportunity? No wonder they can't get any traction nationally: they won't espouse any conservative ideas nor even dare mention the crappy state of affairs the Dim/Progs have created to suggest something better.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 11:44 AM (LUgeY)
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I was there. In the back.
Posted by: SH
Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:45 AM (IlQaj)
Trump is proven as an effective manager. Being in big time real estate is about wheedling deals which is consensus building. Cruz is unproven on these attributes.
Trump can be charming when he wants to be, or a Total Dick. Cruz has a more limited range, no? It makes Trump a more effective retail politician. Trial lawyer v. Appellate lawyer.
Cruz is vulnerable in the general as not being a Man of the People. "I'm aboard so let's pull up the ladder" on Illegal Immigration.
The Natural Born issue is real, because Democrats can make it an issue in those states where they control the ballot apparatus.
Rubio actually has a Natural Born issue because neither of his parents were citizens when he was born, so he can't attack Anchor Baby Birthright Citizenship.
Cruz negatives will go up including because his position on abortion will be a drag when it's more widely known.
For these reasons and more Trump is more likely to win in the general.
That's the fact, Jack!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 11:45 AM (r1fLd)
Posted by: E.T. at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (a67CF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (M+RRn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:42 AM (M+RRn)
So let me get this straight. You killed Grammie but you're worried about dropping f-bombs?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Drider at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (bdzyz)
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Clinton Considered Secret Plan to Spark Palestinian Protests
http://tinyurl.com/zqsqjgw
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton considered a secret plan created by her then-advisers to foment unrest among Palestinian citizens and spark protests in order to push the Israeli government back to the negotiating table, according to emails released as part of the investigation into the Democratic presidential frontrunner's private email server.
In a Dec, 18, 2011, email, former U.S. ambassador to Israel Thomas Pickering suggested that Clinton consider a plan to restart then-stalled peace negotiations by kickstarting Palestinian demonstrations against Israel.
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Yep, we really need this c**t in the WhiteHouse.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2016 11:46 AM (DL2i+)
Please, Donald, win.
Posted by: General Zod at January 11, 2016 11:47 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 11, 2016 11:48 AM (Dc/ui)
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (fWAjv)
Well then, they can go fuck themselves.
War.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 11, 2016 11:50 AM (wtvvX)
LOlI didn't actually kill her; I just said that she was dead (typo) instead of dear, but she's still going to keep on eye on me. ;^)
Just didnt want people to ever think I would say "F charity". Does that even sound like something i would say?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Born Free at January 11, 2016 11:52 AM (uGTin)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (t2KH5)
Just hideous. Clinton Foundation sold in large part to Muslim interests.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (89T5c)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)
No, doesn't sound like you at all to abbreviate it down to just a 'F.'
Now a full throated bellowing FU*K!!!! I can see.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (fWAjv)
I prefer the Reagan model of solving problems. We win, they lose.
Posted by: SH at January 11, 2016 11:49 AM (gmeXX)
Me too.
I think Ayn Rand was extremely right about the state of humanity. On every issue, you have two sides. One is right, the other is wrong. In the middle, you have evil. It does not have the courage to stand up for what is right or fight what's wrong. It refuses to make judgments in order to be agreeable to both. It will toady up to both sides, in the hope of getting a slice of the loot when one or the other wins.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 11, 2016 11:54 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:54 AM (Fmupd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (89T5c)
Also the "dear" word.
You tend to leave a trail of bodies.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (IlQaj)
I would. If only to eliminate the tax hit.
I'd rather send it all to the Catholic Church than a nickel to the government. I agree with the Catholic Church a lot more than I agree with the government (and I'm not Catholic).
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (oVJmc)
Say whatever you like, I've never had representation be they Democrat or Republican. Neither party represents me, and never has. I'm quite tired of being lectured by non representatives. This is why I f'n hate teams, here is a presumed team member telling how it must be. No, it is he who is not a team member. By refusing to listen to Cruz and everybody behind Cruz. Complete failure in perception about who the team is. And that's why they're going the way of the Whigs.
Posted by: bour3 at January 11, 2016 11:56 AM (5x3+2)
As relations with Israel remained tense, another Clinton confidant, Anne Marie Slaughter, sent a staff-wide email to Clinton staffers recommending that they undertake a 'Pledge for Palestine' campaign aimed at convincing U.S. millionaires and billionaires to donate significant portions of their wealth to the Palestinian cause.
This bitch can NOT get in the White House.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 11:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (89T5c)
Please.
How about if we make a bar graph consisting of victims of Muslim terror (death, rape, injury, you know, real victims)
And next to that, the body count of the "backlash"
Lemme know when they're close to equal, and mebbe I'll get concerned.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (t2KH5)
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Margaret Thatcher would like to point point out that they have, indeed, run out of other peoples money.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (8XRCm)
The following is potentially much more significant: There's a Fox News report linked on Drudge about how the FBI has expanded its investigation to look at whether the "intersection" of the Clinton Foundation and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws. The story has three confidential sources and also says that as many as 150 FBI agents are working the case. Recall that the FBI has had Hillary's entire e-mail servers for several months.
I've been harping since forever that pay-for-play Clinton Cash is a bigger scandal than Hillary's e-mails and that you could draft an indictment based on what was already in the public domain, if you wanted. Seemingly innocuous e-mails like "Huma make sure I see Mr Big when I'm in Brunei" can serve to connect the dots.
Developing .....
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (r1fLd)
The South African president from 1999-2008, didnt believe hiv caused aids. So, he denied antiretroval drugs to aids patients. What a moron!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 11, 2016 11:58 AM (iQIUe)
Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (M+RRn)
Dear Liberal Poopyheads.
I might be a little more sympathetic to your fear of "backlash" if you were as concerned about the original "lash".
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (8XRCm)
Take no prisoners Ted.
Posted by: Ray Nitschke 66 at January 11, 2016 12:00 PM (EAUyw)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 11, 2016 12:00 PM (t2KH5)
If that's true it's shocking -- it says Cruz has barely spent anything yet. That means the media attention is driving him higher in the polls.
I haven't contributed yet but probably will this month. With Hillary clearly having the broken the law and the careerists in LE and intel reportedly fired up, it looks more and more like this GOP primary will selecting the next leader of the free world.
I like Trump but the idea of him as President of the United States...
Posted by: TallDave at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (74ZYB)
Just hideous. Clinton Foundation sold in large part to Muslim interests.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:53 AM (M+RRn)
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One thing that needs to become clear. We just think Fredo is the worst prez ever. I don't think we could imagine how bad the Hildebeast would be. It would be the absolute death nell for any semblance to a republic.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Lol. For now.
Dare you to call Insomniac "dear".
LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (IlQaj)
We want to change the game.
The game has been terrible for American, and it's got to go as do all it's players.
To the extant Cruz is hated by the game players, and seen as inflexible, we believe our chances are better for radical change.
Posted by: MTF at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (tLRcG)
Or not. I heard a plausible rumor that Ace was Bowie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 11:59 AM (1xUj/)
Ziggy Ewok???
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: E.T. at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (a67CF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)
I don't know, do you suddenly have a goatee?
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (mf5HN)
He teams up with Democrats, he team up with Dubai oil sheiks...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (Kucy5)
You're absolutely correct. All the Clinton foundation and the State Dept seem to dodoes is sell out American interests to the highest payer. Just traitorous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (M+RRn)
Precisely. It takes energy to polarize a molecule. That's why low energy is the way to go.
Jeb! Can! Fix! It!
Posted by: Jeb! at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (nSW/N)
"Trump and the candidates can talk about it all they want, but my
position is that the president was born in the United States," Priebus
told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor."
So once again the feckless assholes in the GOP do a better job of defending the opposition then someone in their own party. You know, to protect their own squeakholes.
You want to know why people hate the GOP? Exhibit one.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Ted Cruz in a Pimp Coat and Pimp Hat, resting on his Pimp Cane at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 11, 2016 12:02 PM (mf5HN)
*eyes you askance*
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 11:51 AM (M+RRn)
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**shrugs**
Wouldnt put anything past somebody willing to snuff a grandmother.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Lol. For now.
Dare you to call Insomniac "dear".
LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2016 12:01 PM (IlQaj)
Hey, what have I ever done to you?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie
A space oddity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)
Well, i'm over 50-may have a few stray hairs. Not a goatee- yet
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)
What if Trump is concern-trolling Ted Cruz on the citizenship thing as a way to help Cruz by focusing more media attention on him?
One might wonder if Trump knows there is something in his own past that is likely to force him to drop out eventually, and is just trying to shift the Overton window and influence the nomination process before that happens.
Posted by: TallDave at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (74ZYB)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (N8xMd)
Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (/dSsq)
It would be better than calling him dead.
I think I save the "dear' (NO typo) mostly for woman here, but maybe not..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)
Is that where we drink and talk shit about him?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 11, 2016 11:55 AM (89T5c)
Lottery $$$? I'd start a new educational system in one of these inner-cities. Rub the NEA and AFT's noses in it.
Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (oxcYa)
Posted by: fixerupper at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Just don't put Buzzion in charge of the booze.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (1xUj/)
I'm not quite dead!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie
A space oddity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 11, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)
The vast collection of spandex and codpieces should have been a clue.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 12:06 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:08 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (fWAjv)
Well, you did out a member of your church in a post the other day, saying that after she won a lottery she didn't increase her donation in the collection plate.
As an aside, I still am curious how you knew what she put in the collection plate each week.
Not being a church goer, I guess I just thought what you gave was between the giver and God.
Posted by: cind at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (nRbbW)
I'm not quite dead!
So you're only mostly dead?
Posted by: donna at January 11, 2016 12:07 PM (/dSsq)
*checks pockets*
Still have loose change so I can't be all dead.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 11, 2016 12:09 PM (kpqmD)
Before this gets out of hand, the goatee is a reference to an old Star Trek Original Series episode where the crew has evil doppelgangers.
With goatees.
Even Nurse Chapel (eww).
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2016 12:10 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: HH at January 11, 2016 12:10 PM (DrCtv)
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I am concerned about your level of indignation. What someone else does with their own is their business, really, and what someone else might mean by f charity might not be what you might think. Far be it for me to take j's side in this, but it's not that out there to think of charities as generally a bad deal and to hold to "charity begins at home." Like Cato said about starting one's own endowment.
That said, it was hilarious that j singled out the Salvation Army - which, as mustbequantum said, "have topped the charity efficiency rankings for many years now" - as if the Army were the Clinton Foundation. I think this shows why it's silly to get so riled up about him! You're being troll-rolled.
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As for devil caused Okie quakes, hey, don't turn your indignant cannon on me; I didn't ask about it at the time because I didn't see your comment until later. (Maybe I shouldn't be trying to engage you while you're heated. Daddy always told me not to get in the middle of a dog fight - still learning.) If they're "two unrelated comments" then why relate them? It's just - trying to say "I'm not saying," while juxtaposing statements is a typical Leftie "am too saying" tactic. And you did it again.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in deep, dark watersd at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (zbbA4)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)
The Salvation Army is a religious organization. As far as I know, they don't publish a financial statement.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 11, 2016 12:05 PM (gW5Vg)
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Like we don't do that anyway?
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (Fmupd)
On one of those blood-soaked islands in the Pacific, after the battle, he was walking down a road, and came to a Red Cross trailer that was selling coffee and doughnuts for a nickel apiece. He didn't have a nickel, so he walked on .... and came to a Salvation Army trailer, where he was greeted with "Hi, soldier, have a (free) cup of coffee and a doughnut !". He never forgot that, and neither have I.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (erRNA)
Not being a church goer, I guess I just thought what you gave was between the giver and God.
She hasm't been a member of a church I served since 2000
Uhh, because she told me she didn't feel that she needed to give anymore than she had been
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:12 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 11, 2016 12:13 PM (S+N7W)
"I like Rush. I remember his efforts to stop Clinton in 1992, and all the
efforts to stop the Progressive drift of the country since then.
Hannity, Levin, all talked themselves hoarse.
It had zero effect. Zero.
Talk radio has accomplished nothing. They haven't changed one mind -
at least none that matter. The movement to the left has been constant."
Maybe you weren't around before talk radio or when all news came through the big three networks.
The inexorable move to the Left is a function of the world wide decline of Christianity. Irregardless of whether people believe in God, they still need hope and ideology of the Left feeds that.
It's a false hope but people will cling to false hope if there is no alternative.
The worst thing is that the policies of the Left will hurt most the ones who cling to it the hardest.
You can't fight that.
The only thing you can really do is let them go their way and not allow them drag us down with them.
Let Them Burn.
Posted by: rayj at January 11, 2016 12:13 PM (pI/IV)
Posted by: mindful webworker - wading ashore at January 11, 2016 12:14 PM (zbbA4)
The writer cites quotes from some professional athletes, like Lebron James and Mia Hamm, saying "we always put the team first; team success is more important that individual success." That's a non sequitur of the highest order: James and Hamm play for teams that are unites by a team goal, and that goal is winning the game. Their teams don't compete for a strategic tie with their opponents in order to perhaps win in a rematch down the road. They play to win.
In sports, a win is clearly defined: outscoring your opponent to a binary outcome of we win, they lose. The author of the article, and apparently the GOP establishment as well, defines a win as electing people with an R after their name, regardless of what they stand for, and increasing the power and reach of the central government, keeping themselves employed as the elite keepers of the keys. Cruz, on the other hand, defines a win as faithfulness to the Constitution, and preventing bad legislative acts.
The GOP does not understand that their majority was not elected to compromise with the Democrat to pass bills. It was not elected to assist the SCOAMF in enacting his agenda. It was elected to oppose them and successfully stop them.
Perhaps the problem isn't with Cruz; perhaps the problem is the team itself.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 11, 2016 12:15 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Fmupd)
Calm down. i was just explaining
I didn't say the devil caused Okie earthquakes. I said that I didn't think they should have had a Satanic Mass in the Convention Center and that they folks who wanted top put up a Bezzlebub loves the little children statue were wrong. if you invite the devil in it's a bad thing
And now I'm not going to apologize for quoting West. That's why he said. and he's a troll.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (M+RRn)
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 11:43 AM (JOG+K)
The Salvation Army is a religious organization. As far as I know, they don't publish a financial statement.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2016 12:11 PM (Zs4uk)
It's called. Google or Bing. Try it sometime.
http://salvationarmyannualreport.org/financials
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 11, 2016 12:19 PM (JOG+K)
" As for me, the guy was American at his birth, and no one has presented any evidence of dual loyalties, so I'm satisfied enough. "
One of the other considerations of dual citizenship, which wasn't even part of the American lexicon when our Constitution was formed, by the way, is that the other country in which a person holds citizenship could make legal claims on "their citizen". The US doesn't really let go of it's citizens even if they renounce their citizenship and naturalize elsewhere. The US also does not, and never has, officially recognized "dual citizenship".
Frankly, the one thing that everyone was in agreement on, prior to obamas election, was that a person must be born on US soil in order to qualify as Constitutional eligible. The only question was if the parents had to be as well. The dems have been trying HARD since 1970 to get Art 2 amended to allow for those not born in this country to be electable. I have read all those congressional records, as well as a chilling one on dual citizenship and immigration. 2006, House of reps. If you want to understand the Nat Act of 1790 then read Horace Binney. I am not looking to support my preferred outcome,I began years ago, before Ted Cruz. I have hundreds of hours of research under my belt yet I don't claim to have THE answer. But I won't vote for anyone who was not born in this country. And yes, I have been commenting here for years. Not daily.
Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 12:29 PM (xhawg)
This is false. There isn't agreement on how to read the relevant Constitutional clause. See the cases of Romney's Dad (born in Mexico), Goldwater (born in a US territory) and McCain (born at sea, for all we know).
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2016 12:34 PM (r1fLd)
McCain was born to a person in service to the US, and born in the Panama Canal zone prior to Oct/1/1979 so he was not considered to have been born abroad. Those born in certain territories and outlying possessions were not considered to have been born abroad either. And there was certainly a question about Father Romney - and it's still not settled. As a dual citizen myself, I have always been fascinated with the topic.
Posted by: GrandeMe at January 11, 2016 12:47 PM (xhawg)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 11, 2016 12:50 PM (LeUrG)
My mistake, I made the assumption (from your original post I referenced), that you were taking note of the actual donation amounts of parishioners.
re:67: One thing that always made me laugh to myself was that she put in the
same amount of money to the collection-which was much less than some
older people who hadn't won the lottery gave)
Posted by: cind at January 11, 2016 12:51 PM (nRbbW)
Hope that clears it up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2016 01:02 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at January 11, 2016 01:25 PM (uaYXs)
Posted by: Berzrkr50 at January 11, 2016 01:45 PM (BVPMw)
So, Drew thinks Obama has been moving the country to the right. Interesting slip.
Posted by: Demosthenes at January 11, 2016 06:51 PM (9V0rz)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2016 11:38 AM (Fmupd)
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Or personally finance their replacements in their next primary. Nice speakership you got there Paul, be a shame to lose it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 02:03 AM (MbrzC)
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