Overnight Open Thread (1-5-2016)

Quote of the Day I

"Fans the flames of radicalization" - can we please stop blaming ourselves for Muslims' decision to radicalize? Can we please top believing that somehow we drive them into embracing a philosophy of mass murder? This is not our fault. This is not Donald Trump's fault. This is the fault of the people who believe that the best way they can practice their faith is to run around killing non-Muslims. Stop letting them off the hook, and claiming that they were somehow forced to commit these atrocities because of something we said or did.

This is classic "empathize with our enemies" thinking.

-- Jim Geraghty

Quote of the Day II

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite time in the future."

-- George S. Patton Jr.

The Big Divide in Europe

Note that the divide in this map more or less reflects the Hajnal line which divides the Western European marriage pattern (late marriage, equal-aged spouses, separate homes) from the other parts of Europe with more traditional marriage patterns.

europedivide1

Patterico: What Are The Bundy's Protesting in Oregon and Why

A pretty good round-up of the actual facts of the situation based on court records. The case of the Hammonds really does seem to be an instance of prosecutorial over-charging and miscarriage of justice. Note that the Hammonds apparently did not want the Bundys to help in their case.

And this is the larger issue to these cases: in the West there's no escaping federal jurisdiction and federal heavy-handedness since the Feds own most of the land.

federallands

Welcome to 2016: Mama June Gets a Lap Dance From a Little Stripper

Two thoughts: 1. SMOD/NORK-HBOM is a tease. 2. I may want to make an addition to the bucket list.

mamajunelittel1

How to Be a Lawyer Without Going to Law School

There's also another way sort-of - becomes a patent agent.

Jonathon Last on Why Tesla is a Ridiculous Company

What makes Tesla really ridiculous? It's market valuation is currently $27B. That's exactly half of GM's market cap. Half! You know how many cars GM sold last year? 9.9M. You know how many Tesla sold? 31,665. Let's write out those numbers:

GM: 9,900,000 vehicles sold

Tesla: 31,665 vehicles sold

GM market cap = 2 x Tesla market cap

Actually, it's a good thing Tesla didn't sell too many units because they still lose $4,000 on every car.
Related: Beware the Burning Teslas

The German POWs Who Lived, Worked, and Loved in Texas

The Simple Logic Puzzle That Shows How Illogical People Are

How many cards do you have to turn over to know whether this statement is true or not?

Hint: Think contrapositive.

cards1432336109-0

Fourth Tribe of European Ancestors Found

There's a whole fantasy book series in this little tidbit.

"The question of where the Yamnaya come from has been something of a mystery up to now," Andrea Manica, of the University of Cambridge, told the BBC. "We can now answer that as we've found that their genetic make-up is a mix of Eastern European hunter-gatherers and a population from this pocket of Caucasus hunter-gatherers who weathered much of the last Ice Age in apparent isolation." The group may have been responsible for introducing Indo-Aryan languages to the region, and are also believed to have influenced the cultures of central and south Asia.

Meet King Bansah: Part-Time Monarch, Full-Time Auto Mechanic

bansahking

Let's Give a Hand to Our Four New Elements

We expect great things to come from ununpentium, ununseptium, ununoctium, and Mighty113 once they exist for more than a few microseconds.

The Yahoo group is for closers only.

Teh Tweet!

Tonight's post brought to you by Connery:

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Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. Ewok status: groggy, gruntled, and not to be trifled with.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:25 PM




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1 BTW, the Norks have the bomb.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:26 PM (GUBah)

2 Is it glowing in this thread or is it still safe? Where's the F'ing Geiger counter???

Thanks Maet for another ONT.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 05, 2016 11:28 PM (xVgrA)

3 Mairsy-dotes and dozy-dotes and little lamzie-divy.....


Howdy!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 05, 2016 11:29 PM (EzgxV)

4 FIRST!

Posted by: kim jong-un at January 05, 2016 11:29 PM (DLIIY)

5 All your ONT are belong to us

Posted by: wooga at January 05, 2016 11:29 PM (XK0dn)

6 Woot, woot & woot ONT baby

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:29 PM (voOPb)

7 Howdy.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:30 PM (8ltB7)

8 "Do you know the way to San Jose?

Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom...'

Posted by: Dionne Warwick 2016 at January 05, 2016 11:31 PM (ntObR)

9 Actually, it's a good thing Tesla didn't sell too many units because they still lose $4,000 on every car.

And how much do we taxpayers pay on every Tesla sold?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 11:31 PM (zc3Db)

10 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2016 11:31 PM (ntObR)

11

.....diminutive stripper Little Sassy Cassee

You really -- really -- do not want to image search that.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 11:31 PM (kdS6q)

12 Nevada is a shame. Lot's of land not worth owning but some that really is.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:32 PM (8ltB7)

13 we're all gonna die, man.

Posted by: Pvt Hudson at January 05, 2016 11:32 PM (8CdUx)

14 ONT ONT ONT ONT

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (/ciMI)

15 Now the Faraday car company will be making electric cars. Someday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (FkBIv)

16 FIRST AGAIN!!!

Posted by: kim jong-un at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (DLIIY)

17 "Fans the flames of radicalization"

It is always okay to blame the victim, if the perp is Muslim.
If the perp is anyone else, victim blaming is the worst thing ever!

Posted by: wooga at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (XK0dn)

18 I love Connery as Bond......but. He was a real dick in real life.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (8ltB7)

19 Maps are always good

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (2x3L+)

20 How many cards do you have to turn over to know whether this statement is true or not?

2. The blue and the even card. The other two don't matter.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (zc3Db)

21 Hello, Horde.

Whoever ordered the "Interesting Times" add-on to the year 2016 should be taken out back and shot.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (rJUlF)

22 Can someone please pass the eye-bleach?

Other than that, another great ONT, thanks Maet!

Posted by: NC Ref at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (Mj2zI)

23 "we're all gonna die, man."


All of us, one day.....yes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (8ltB7)

24 The Simple Logic Puzzle That Shows How Illogical People Are

How many cards do you have to turn over to know whether this statement is true or not?




Stealing from CDR M's ONTs Maet. For shame.



http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=356883

Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 05, 2016 11:35 PM (zt+N6)

25 Maps are always good

Posted by: L, Elle

Yeargh!

Posted by: Long John Silver at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (/ciMI)

26 Uncle Zed

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (FkBIv)

27 *knock-knock*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (8ltB7)

28 Can't see Connery without thinking about Alex Trebeck's mom.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (RbkZc)

29 Lawyer link interesting. Ranking Wisconsin as high as they did was dubious. Anybody who graduates from Marquette law or UW Law are automatically admitted to bar

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (voOPb)

30 I'm not Tom Clancy, but "Full Force and Effect" covers this Nork nuke thing pretty well.


And as a bonus, the novel includes an attempt to assassinate the prez

Posted by: the guy who slipstreamed Tom Clancy at January 05, 2016 11:36 PM (8CdUx)

31 King Bansah sounds like a real gem of a man. Africa needs many more like him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:37 PM (cKwwS)

32 At the county fair some years, we would get midget wrasslin. Them short people were damn quick.

It's why olympic gymnasts are not tall. Has to do with rate of rotation.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 05, 2016 11:37 PM (ugz3A)

33 *knock-knock*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Come in.

Posted by: Batman at January 05, 2016 11:37 PM (/ciMI)

34 Cool ass thing on the king/mechanic.

Well done as always Maet

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (R5HRU)

35 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/684420101404135424

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/684420404396429312

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/684435615761350661

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/684437624358977536

Posted by: kbdabear at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (GwWIs)

36 If any of you see eman around, tell him for me that I saw the movie and ready to talk

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (2x3L+)

37 I wasoned.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (rwI+c)

38 Do the little strippers get a tiny pole of their own?

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (RbkZc)

39 "Come in.
Posted by: Batman"


*thinks to self "Batman." WTF*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (8ltB7)

40 That is some pretty tough stuff from Mr. Geraghty. I'm sure any Islamophobia was unintentional.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (2TUVm)

41 Glad I clicked on Maets bucket list link. There for a second I thought he might be related to Harry Reid. All is good dancer is of age

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (voOPb)

42 "Do you know the way to San Jose?"

Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom...

Seeing as I first, I no nuke San Jose... tonight.

FIRST STILL!

Posted by: kim jong-un at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (DLIIY)

43 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (YJmuy)

44 Carly Simon claims that Connery proposed a threesome between her and her sister on a ship voyage going from England to NYC back in the '60s. She turned him down, but sis snuck back and banged him by herself later than night, which was the reason she broke up the act with the sis.

So Carly claims.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (dvuhZ)

45 "If any of you see eman around, tell him for me that I saw the movie and ready to talk"


What movie?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:39 PM (8ltB7)

46 Didn't we already have the card test on an ONT?

I f'd it up the last time too.

Posted by: geometric logic at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (dbDB8)

47 Who's there? RK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (voOPb)

48 g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (KCxzN)

49 I love Connery as Bond......but. He was a real dick in real life.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM


Yeah well... your mother didn't mind the dick, Trebek.

Posted by: sean connery at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (EWg9n)

50 Europe is fucked.

Not the good kind of fucked, the other kind.

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (MQEz6)

51 Let's Give a Hand to Our Four New Elements

Sounds like one of them should be named unobtainium.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (sdi6R)

52 " Who's there? RK"



Come back. Over.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (8ltB7)

53 The corollary, from the first position, is, that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress [or the Executive... but apparently this was "INCONCEIVABLE!" back then] a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both.

Posted by: William Rawle, A View of the Constitution, 1829 at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (AxTzt)

54 Lots of great content tonight, Maet. Thanks!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (rJUlF)

55 20 How many cards do you have to turn over to know whether this statement is true or not?

2. The blue and the even card. The other two don't matter.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 11:34 PM (zc3Db)


One... the 8... the only card currently showing an even number, is the 8 card...

and the statement is : If 'A' card... not if all cards which have a blue background... we don't even know if the blue card has a number on its back... and its immaterial about the question.... which is only asking about the currently showing even card.

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (f7rv6)

56 Evening. Red-letter day at Casa de Peon in AJ. Had the first-ever cruise in my Triumph TR6. Did about 15 miles; didn't have to walk home. And didn't get rained on, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (cKwwS)

57 RK, new Stars Wars. He talked me into watching it after I decided not to invite more disappointment based on the totally shitty prequels

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (2x3L+)

58 Hey, looks like I got in early, again. Under 100?

Been watching some intense video, including Megan Kelley interviewing the guys from Benghazi, and a summary of Hillary's crimes. Recommended viewing.

See the Heroes of Benghazi Open Up About the New '13 Hours' Film
https://youtu.be/rJD4LCV5jqE

Hillary Clinton_ A Career Criminal
https://youtu.be/kypl1MYuKDY

For psychic relief after those, you might try this one, c/o Weird Universe:

Colt 45 Malt Liquor Commercial (1967)
https://youtu.be/CJ_mtRc3WwU

Posted by: mindful webworker - again at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (ACs58)

59
36 If any of you see eman around, tell him for me that I saw the movie and ready to talk
Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:38 PM (2x3L+)

Howdy.

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (MQEz6)

60 46 Didn't we already have the card test on an ONT?

I f'd it up the last time too.


Posted by: geometric logic at January 05, 2016 11:41 PM (dbDB


We did. I linked it. A CDR M ONT.

Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (zt+N6)

61 Imagine a hypothesis that somehow, N. Korea suddenly became a free and democratic republic.

Given the thoroughly brainwashed populace and the entirely screwed up social order there, how would things unfold in the transition, and how many generations until a "normalcy" more resembling South Korea's?

Or, just snuke'em and start from scratch?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (McRlu)

62 Re: the New Elements (who I saw open for the Free Radicals back in the day)...

Is that pronounced "un-un" or "oon-oon"?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (rJUlF)

63 How many cards do you have to turn over

Nailed it!

Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2016 11:44 PM (ANVXm)

64 Evening. Red-letter day at Casa de Peon in AJ. Had the first-ever cruise
in my Triumph TR6. Did about 15 miles; didn't have to walk home. And
didn't get rained on, either.


Congrats. A few miles west of you and I got rained on every time I went outside today.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 05, 2016 11:44 PM (YJmuy)

65 Isn't obama left handed? That makes him unfit to rule here & in African country. Buh-bye Ba-Rock

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

66 eman! Hi you. You here for a while?

Okay, first, I liked it! Pleasantly surprised. Though I had criticisms.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:45 PM (2x3L+)

67 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/684437624358977536

Jedediah without the Makeup Gun set to Streetwalker. Very nice.

Posted by: applause at January 05, 2016 11:45 PM (dbDB8)

68 "He talked me into watching it after I decided not to invite more disappointment based on the totally shitty prequels"


How was it?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:46 PM (8ltB7)

69 Niece called me and asked if I wanted to go to the movie theater to see the new Star Wars with her and her husband.

Based on what comments there were here, I said 'no'.

and it would be loud and there would be people there. I'll wait for the DVD to hit the discount bin in about ten years or so.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 05, 2016 11:46 PM (ugz3A)

70 A fascinating link about German POW's on Texas. A great book along the same lines, The Train to Crystal City: FDR's Secret Prisoner Exchange Program and America's Only Family Internment Camp During World War II by Jan Jarboe Russell.

Posted by: RGallegos at January 05, 2016 11:46 PM (49Jfq)

71 Isn't obama left handed?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Yes, and believe me, he's very unclean.

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 05, 2016 11:46 PM (/FOB4)

72 Mama June Gets a Lap Dance From a Little Stripper

I could've lived the rest of my life without seeing that. Or knowing who or what Mama June is... which I still basically don't. Thanks, Maet... not.

Had to click through... to make sure that was a "little person," not a child.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ugh at January 05, 2016 11:46 PM (ACs58)

73 Congrats. A few miles west of you and I got rained on every time I went outside today.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 05, 2016 11:44 PM (YJmuy)


I went to Arizona Wilderness brewery in Chandler for dinner tonight, and it rained heavily both there and back along the 60. And some ginormous puddles on University whilst approaching the casa.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (cKwwS)

74 You do not need to turn over any cards.except the blue, the eight, and the green.

Five might be blue, but it does not matter.

Eight might not be blue.

Blue might not be even.

Green might be even.

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (MQEz6)

75 Four new elements... pfft.

Get back to me when they find a fifth element named Leeloo.

Posted by: Korben Dallas at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (H9MG5)

76 61 Imagine a hypothesis that somehow, N. Korea suddenly became a free and democratic republic.

Given the thoroughly brainwashed populace and the entirely screwed up social order there, how would things unfold in the transition, and how many generations until a "normalcy" more resembling South Korea's?

Or, just snuke'em and start from scratch?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (McRlu)
***
Formerly Communist East Germany is still a basket-case, and that regime was, compared to the Kims, downright benevolent.

Based on the few things I've seen and read about how defectors from the North fare - they have this bizarre, multi-generational mixture of naivete and post-traumatic stress syndrome - I think it would make Cambodia look like Romper Room.

Those people are fucked. The Kims and others like them make me hope and pray there is a Hell.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (lutOX)

77 Come back over who?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (voOPb)

78 We did. I linked it. A CDR M ONT.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (zt+N6)


Not on one of my ONTs which is to say a real and legally trademarked ONT.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (wqVD1)

79 Ah, Element 115. That was the magical stuff that ol' Bob Lazar claimed powered the UFOs at Area 51. You see, that stuff was stable and made sort of antigravity effect someway somehow.

Nothing special observed about it now that it has been synthesized. Of course, I think the nuclei they've made didn't contain enough neutrons to get into the predicted island of stability at the very high end.

But no hint of any magic from element 115, unfortunately.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 05, 2016 11:48 PM (dvuhZ)

80 RK, it was good. Go see it. Some annoying things and some surprises

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:48 PM (2x3L+)

81 "RGallegos"


You new, or a sock?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:48 PM (8ltB7)

82 20
2. The blue and the even card. The other two don't matter.

The blue and the green card. The rules don't forbid an odd card having a blue back.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 05, 2016 11:49 PM (o78gS)

83 I love a lap dance from a little person. Want to see what I do with her afterwards?

Posted by: Roxy Raye at January 05, 2016 11:50 PM (dvuhZ)

84 56
Evening. Red-letter day at Casa de Peon in AJ. Had the first-ever cruise
in my Triumph TR6. Did about 15 miles; didn't have to walk home. And
didn't get rained on, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (cKwwS)



Whoo-hoo!!! Did you have to rewire any of the Lucas Electric for the inbound 7-1/2?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (EzgxV)

85 "Come back over who?"

Eh, that's your business. Were you trying to tell me something?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (8ltB7)

86 18 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:33 PM (8ltB7)

Your mother Trebek...


//Connery, Sean Connery

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (g8Hfr)

87 Did they put the Honda Element on the Periodic Table?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (McRlu)

88
66 eman! Hi you. You here for a while?

Okay, first, I liked it! Pleasantly surprised. Though I had criticisms.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2016 11:45 PM (2x3L+)

Hey, girl!

Glad you liked it. Yes, I will be here.

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (MQEz6)

89 Ah, Element 115. That was the magical stuff that ol' Bob Lazar claimed powered the UFOs at Area 51. You see, that stuff was stable and made sort of antigravity effect someway somehow.

Nothing special observed about it now that it has been synthesized. Of course, I think the nuclei they've made didn't contain enough neutrons to get into the predicted island of stability at the very high end.

But no hint of any magic from element 115, unfortunately.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 05, 2016 11:48 PM (dvuhZ)


I remember, dimly, a science-fiction novel in which "illyrium", a generic term for stable elements with atomic numbers circa 200, was a major power source, and also provided metals with unique properties for industry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (cKwwS)

90 I went to Arizona Wilderness brewery in Chandler for dinner tonight, and
it rained heavily both there and back along the 60. And some ginormous
puddles on University whilst approaching the casa.


Well, now you get to see how we handle rain. I think the word is "poorly".

If it ever snows here, then you'll see real comedy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 05, 2016 11:52 PM (YJmuy)

91 One... the 8...

That was my answer. Is it correct?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 11:52 PM (u5gzz)

92 78 We did. I linked it. A CDR M ONT.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (zt+N6)

Not on one of my ONTs which is to say a real and legally trademarked ONT.
--------cob fight caused by a fucking dead guy. Go figure

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 11:52 PM (voOPb)

93 and funny part is they answer says we are all wrong... yet THEY are wrong... LOL...

They say you have to turn over the 8 and the GREEN card...

But that would only be true if the statement was that ONLY Even cards had a blue background...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:52 PM (f7rv6)

94 Ricardo Kill, been here a while and enjoying the daily wisdom and laughs put out by all here.

Posted by: RGallegos at January 05, 2016 11:53 PM (49Jfq)

95 I love a lap dance from a little person. Want to see what I do with her afterwards?
Posted by: Roxy Raye

That's what I love about this place, all the commenters are so classy.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton's dried-up meat flaps at January 05, 2016 11:53 PM (/FOB4)

96 Test shows an interesting problem with intelligence tests...

How can someone of lesser intelligence, measure someone of higher intelligence?

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:53 PM (f7rv6)

97 Always good to add to the uniblabnide group. Now, do I have to get back to work?

Posted by: George Jetson at January 05, 2016 11:53 PM (QaeAo)

98 "Go see it. Some annoying things and some surprises"


I got the low-down from someone who's seen it. I won't see it for a while. Until it's on DVD. Know the surprises, per se.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:54 PM (8ltB7)

99 Whoo-hoo!!! Did you have to rewire any of the Lucas Electric for the inbound 7-1/2?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 05, 2016 11:51 PM (EzgxV)


Nope, no electric problems at all. Alternator was putting out fine. Gauges all in the green, so to speak. Of course, I had "pre-fixed" some potential electrical pitfalls. Big issues: sticky valves in engine, and very squeaky brakes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:54 PM (cKwwS)

100 78
We did. I linked it. A CDR M ONT.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (zt+N6)

Not on one of my ONTs which is to say a real and legally trademarked ONT.


Posted by: Maetenloch at January 05, 2016 11:47 PM (wqVD1)


Oh, no you d'int.....

Here CDR M manfully steps up so you can go swanning about for your weekends, and you start aspersing castings like he's a loaf of ungrateful bread.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 05, 2016 11:55 PM (EzgxV)

101 That's what I love about this place, all the commenters are so classy.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton's dried-up meat flaps at January 05, 2016 11:53 PM (/FOB4)


That's either ironic or comedy gold.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2016 11:55 PM (kKHcp)

102 "Ricardo Kill, been here a while and enjoying the daily wisdom and laughs put out by all here."



Where you at?


Laughs? Wisdom? You'll figure out soon.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 05, 2016 11:56 PM (8ltB7)

103 61 Imagine a hypothesis that somehow, N. Korea suddenly became a free and democratic republic.

Given the thoroughly brainwashed populace and the entirely screwed up social order there, how would things unfold in the transition, and how many generations until a "normalcy" more resembling South Korea's?

Or, just snuke'em and start from scratch?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 05, 2016 11:43 PM (McRlu)



I'm of the opinion that totalitarian collectivism, in whatever form, permanently alters a society.

Those who have a tendency towards independence and freethinking have long ago been hunted down and exterminated. This also includes the most intelligent members of society.

Even after the regime collapses or is overthrown, what you're left with is a population that tends to be passive and conformist, and who are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

It could take generations to recover from that experience, and the best bloodlines will have been eradicated.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2016 11:56 PM (sdi6R)

104 One... the 8... the only card currently showing an even number, is the 8 card...

and the statement is : If 'A' card... not if all cards which have a blue background... we don't even know if the blue card has a number on its back... and its immaterial about the question.... which is only asking about the currently showing even card.

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (f7rv6)


No. The "A" is an existential quantifier, not a single "a" - i.e. it is the same as "any".

You're correct about the blue card. No need to check it. It doesn't violate the statement no matter what is on its face. That was my mistake. But I also missed the green, which needs to be checked to make sure it doesn't have an even on the other side.

So, the only cards that need to be checked are the "8" and the green card.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 11:56 PM (zc3Db)

105 93
They say you have to turn over the 8 and the GREEN card...



But that would only be true if the statement was that ONLY Even cards had a blue background...


Nope. In that case, you'd have to turn them *all* over.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 05, 2016 11:56 PM (o78gS)

106 and very squeaky brakes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2016 11:54 PM (cKwwS)


That's how you know they're working!
just ask any trucker or bus driver.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2016 11:57 PM (kKHcp)

107 Do you get tagged an element just because your nucleus holds together long enough to get detected?

You don't have to have a full account of electrons and display some chemical attributes?

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:58 PM (MQEz6)

108 One... the 8... the only card currently showing an even number, is the 8 card...



and the statement is : If 'A' card... not if all cards which have a
blue background... we don't even know if the blue card has a number on
its back... and its immaterial about the question.... which is only
asking about the currently showing even card.

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (f7rv6)

Yup
Only one card is showing an even number, the 8, the other cards are showing a 5, green, and blue. Need only check the card showing an even number.

Of course they meant something else...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 05, 2016 11:59 PM (T78UI)

109 Honey Boo Boo holds a critical place in society.

Instead of saying "white trash," "trailer trash" or "hillbilly," you can say "Honey Boo Boo" instead.

For example: My previous employers are Honey Boo Boo, while I'm more Nightline.

/also apologizes to all white trash, trailer trash and hillbillies for using you in a comparison to Honey Boo Boo.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 05, 2016 11:59 PM (9JJgN)

110 104

I think you're right. It makes me worry about where we are heading here...when people get used to tyranny, it's damn hard to beat it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 05, 2016 11:59 PM (rJUlF)

111 C'mon you bitch -- dissolve! dissolve!!!! I've got six minutes before half of you is gone, dissolve already!!!!




107
Do you get tagged an element just because your nucleus holds together long enough to get detected?



You don't have to have a full account of electrons and display some chemical attributes?





Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:58 PM (MQEz6)

Posted by: element scientist at January 06, 2016 12:00 AM (EzgxV)

112 Do you get tagged an element just because your nucleus holds together long enough to get detected?

You don't have to have a full account of electrons and display some chemical attributes?

Posted by: eman at January 05, 2016 11:58 PM (MQEz6)


Getting a nucleus together is a pretty big deal and enough to call it an element.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 12:00 AM (zc3Db)

113 >> And how much do we taxpayers pay on every Tesla sold?

About $7500, last time I looked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2016 12:01 AM (gyKtp)

114 I choose to identify as Radium

Posted by: ununpentium at January 06, 2016 12:01 AM (zt+N6)

115 That's how you know they're working!
just ask any trucker or bus driver.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2016 11:57 PM (kKHcp)


They do work, and work quite well. I am hoping the squeaking is just due to rust on the drums and rotors; this car has sat idle for years. But if it doesn't clear up, I can fix it. Chamfer the edges of the brake pads, tighten up loose parts. That will generally fix noises.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:01 AM (cKwwS)

116 Best answer: Set fire to the cards. Pour a shot.

Posted by: mindful webworker - simple solutions a specialty at January 06, 2016 12:01 AM (ACs58)

117 "For example: My previous employers are Honey Boo Boo, while I'm more Nightline."


Don't live in a trailer and I don't watch Fooky Boo-Boo. What are you saying?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (8ltB7)

118 I choose to identify as Radium
Posted by: ununpentium


Transelemental!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (FkBIv)

119 "I choose to identify as Radium"

That'll leave a mark.

Posted by: Madame Curie at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (u5gzz)

120 Speaking of Honey Boo Boo, anybody hear about the illegal beekeeping ring that was recently caught in SoCal?

Police captured 'em in a "sting" operation...

((ducks))

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (ntObR)

121 BTW, the Norks have the bomb.
Posted by: Country Singer
-------------

Bwahahah. It's the same as me putting on a Kobe Bryant jersey. Small potatoes. Trust me on this.

Posted by: Barky at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (Z58Xa)

122 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 11:56 PM (zc3Db)

Still disagree because of the way the question is stated...

IF 'a card shows an even number on one face'

is one complete condition... 'shows' is the present tense.... and there is only ONE card currently showing an even number... the 8..

The Green card is immaterial, because it is not showing an even number presently, and the question does not contain a 'will show' for a future condition.

This is exactly the type of ambiguous question technique that we used to get hammered on while writing curriculum for Tech Classes in the Navy...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:02 AM (f7rv6)

123 108
One... the 8... the only card currently showing an even number, is the 8 card...





and the statement is : If 'A' card... not if all cards which have a

blue background... we don't even know if the blue card has a number on

its back... and its immaterial about the question.... which is only

asking about the currently showing even card.



Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 05, 2016 11:42 PM (f7rv6)

Yup
Only
one card is showing an even number, the 8, the other cards are showing a
5, green, and blue. Need only check the card showing an even number.

Of course they meant something else...


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 05, 2016 11:59 PM (T78UI)


You need to flip two cards -- you flip the 8 to show its backside IS blue; and you flip the green to show its backside isn't even. If the 8's backside weren't blue, it'd prove the statement false; and if the green's backside were even, it'd prove the statement false.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

124 Hi again eman! Okay movie talk. Here goes:

First, I expected the old characters to be embarrassing. They weren't except for Lea. Her voice sounded so old. Han Solo has aged well and pulled it off. Luke too.

All the nostalgic stuff, J.J. Abrams pulled it off without making it over the top and stupid. I loved the soundtrack. That was all really good. Chewie too.

Agreeing with BBWolf, I hated the kick-ass heroine in the lead role. Just hated it. I want to see a man play that part.

I'm glad I saw it. It didn't totally suck like I expected.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (2x3L+)

125 https://mobile.twitter.com/statedept/status/448635749605593088

Our WH keeping the peace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (voOPb)

126 Me no rike rogic puzzles.

Posted by: Kim Jong Ill at January 06, 2016 12:04 AM (cKwwS)

127 The design of the logic puzzle is so ambiguous that there are multiple logically correct answers.



Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:04 AM (MQEz6)

128 And how much do we taxpayers pay on every Tesla sold?

About $7500, last time I looked.
Posted by: GnuBreed
--------------------------

It is wealth transfer from the have-nots to the haves. But Green! , so it's okay.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 12:05 AM (Z58Xa)

129 2 cards: the 8 and the green.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:06 AM (kpqmD)

130 Your logic puzzle is highly illogical.

Posted by: Mr. Spock at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (ntObR)

131 But the Tesla is a great car and you should all get one! You should also put solar panels on your house!

Posted by: Clark Howard at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (zt+N6)

132 Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something. She's had food, water, biscuits. Doesn't want to go out to pee. Don't know what's on her mind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (cKwwS)

133 "Hey Spock!! Whatcha want on yer hot dog?!?"

"Surprise me!"

Posted by: great moments in Simpsons history at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (ntObR)

134 You need to flip two cards -- you flip the 8 to show
its backside IS blue; and you flip the green to show its backside isn't
even. If the 8's backside weren't blue, it'd prove the statement false;
and if the green's backside were even, it'd prove the statement false.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)
They should have used a word other than 'show'

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (T78UI)

135 Thar's entahrley too many damn Green Card people on this thread.

Posted by: Fritz Hollings at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (u5gzz)

136
You need to flip two cards -- you flip the 8 to show its backside IS blue; and you flip the green to show its backside isn't even. If the 8's backside weren't blue, it'd prove the statement false; and if the green's backside were even, it'd prove the statement false.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)


Have to disagree... due to the present tense condition of the question...

'shows' is present tense... the question is not what 'will show' if you flip over the green card.

I realize that is what they intended... but its not what they wrote in the question...

Nit picking I grant you.... but that is the exact nature of IQ tests...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (f7rv6)

137 Don't live in a trailer and I don't watch Fooky Boo-Boo. What are you saying?
---

They are OJ Simpson and I'm Grace Kelly?

LOL. Or some variation thereof.

/yay! In some universe, I'm a version of Grace Kelly, rather than Honey Boo Boo's Mom! Win!

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (9JJgN)

138 I couldn't make the whole "click on your answer" thing work. Results:

Logic: Unknown

Technology Proficiency: Bellow Average

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (bYGAR)

139 App, playtime? My pup dropped a shin bone on my iPad. It's still working

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (voOPb)

140 132
Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something.
She's had food, water, biscuits. Doesn't want to go out to pee. Don't
know what's on her mind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (cKwwS)


Sensing an impending earthquake?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)

141 But the Tesla is a great car and you should all get one! You should also put solar panels on your house!

Also be sure to have your doctor completely rejigger your entire insides so that you never again have to fart or breathe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 12:09 AM (ntObR)

142 132
Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something.
She's had food, water, biscuits. Doesn't want to go out to pee. Don't
know what's on her mind.
---

play with me! Play with ME! PLAY WITH ME!!!

Posted by: doggie at January 06, 2016 12:09 AM (9JJgN)

143 Cards 2 and 4. We don't care if odds have blue backs, but a non-blue backed even or a green backed even both falsify the logic statement.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (1D4Ef)

144 Those Eastern European hunter gatherers were untrustworthy.

And their women just wanted to marry you for your beads.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (qUNWi)

145 5 -- not even, so it doesn't matter which color the back is

8 -- even, so it must be flipped to verify the back is blue

Blue -- rule holds if back is even, and makes no difference if it is odd

Green -- must be flipped to verify that the back is not even (if it was even the rule fails)

So two cards.

Posted by: Bitblt at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (JgyZ/)

146 Fuck it. I'm not flipping no cards. If Maet or CDR m don't care for it they can post a yoko tribute ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (voOPb)

147 "It is wealth transfer from the have-nots to the haves. But Green! , so it's okay."

See also: marginal low-income households having their electricity rates surcharged so that affluent yuppie households can be subsidized to install solar panels.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (noWW6)

148 Also, eman, the character that looked like E.T. with goggles was the equivalent of Jar Jar Binks for me. Annoying as all hell.

A lot of the dialogue was so fake and campy.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (2x3L+)

149 Paul Ryan from the mirror universe has been sent back and our beardless Paul Ryan has returned.

Now we'll see some heavy GOP anti-Obama action!

Posted by: mindful webworker - your agonizer, Mr Obama at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (ACs58)

150 Notice that as soon a King Midas decreed that the Future is in non-gas cars, that oil prices dropped dramatically?

Go Tesla! Enjoy your subsidies from King (Sh*t) Midas I.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (9JJgN)

151 20 How many cards do you have to turn over to know whether this statement is true or not?

2. The blue and the even card. The other two don't matter.

I didn't read all comments,, so sorry if someone else already offered this ...
You must examine ALL but the blue card.

Let "=>" indicate the other side.

5 => 2 falsifies the statement.
8 => 2 falsifies the statement.
green => 2 falsifies the statement.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (IbUUZ)

152
124 Hi again eman! Okay movie talk. Here goes:

First, I expected the old characters to be embarrassing. They weren't except for Lea. Her voice sounded so old. Han Solo has aged well and pulled it off. Luke too.

All the nostalgic stuff, J.J. Abrams pulled it off without making it over the top and stupid. I loved the soundtrack. That was all really good. Chewie too.

Agreeing with BBWolf, I hated the kick-ass heroine in the lead role. Just hated it. I want to see a man play that part.

I'm glad I saw it. It didn't totally suck like I expected.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:03 AM (2x3L+)

I did not like the X-wing pilot guy. Can't explain why, he just rubbed the wrong way. The giant planet-killing planet was beyond stupid, but good popcorny fun.

I liked the female ass-kicker. It adds a new twist to the Jedi thing and is a good springboard for the sequels.

Who is she? Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination?

Her perfect skin is the hardest thing to explain with a straight face.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (MQEz6)

153 Sensing an impending earthquake?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)


Well, I hope not. Is central AZ earthquake country? She acts like she is begging for handouts. Not like fretting about something. Chin on knee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (cKwwS)

154 Also be sure to have your doctor completely rejigger your entire insides so that you never again have to fart or breathe.
Posted by: qdpsteve

A gastro-pulminary bipass? That's covered

Posted by: Covered Commiefornia at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (/FOB4)

155 If you flip the 8 and it's Blue...

It got's to be true!!!!!!

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (qUNWi)

156 132 >> Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something.

More than 4 hours of daylight?

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2016 12:12 AM (gyKtp)

157 and funny part is they answer says we are all wrong... yet THEY are wrong... LOL...
I think the end-note that the guy posting the video added says the first video he linked isn't the correct answer and you've got to click through it to get the right answer. Unless I'm wrong about what...

Update: Oh, okay, I clicked a wrong answer, and the video it went to gives you the option of seeing the correct answer video. That explains why the correct answer had much more than 10% of the views of the original.

means and that means I must fail the test automatically. And I haven't played the video yet to see if it's the "real" answer or not.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2016 12:12 AM (DLIIY)

158 See also: marginal low-income households having their electricity rates
surcharged so that affluent yuppie households can be subsidized to
install solar panels.
--

In Michigan, the Detroit suburbs are having their water rates raised because we get our water from Detroit and someone has to pay for the people in the inner city who have chosen not to pay their water bills.

Because water is a human right.

And if it has to be paid for, well, some have to pay. Others do not.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 06, 2016 12:13 AM (9JJgN)

159 And their women just wanted to marry you for your beads.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (qUNWi)


you can get more mileage from your beads in New Orleans.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:13 AM (cKwwS)

160 @149 mindful don't hold your breath on Ryan

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:13 AM (voOPb)

161 Okay, tried copying the seen from "The Untouchables" where DeNiro goes off, but can't.



So.


I want him dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burned to the ground!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:13 AM (8ltB7)

162 See also: marginal low-income households having their electricity rates surcharged so that affluent yuppie households can be subsidized to install solar panels.

Posted by: torquewrench
----------------

All the while smugly signaling their concern for the welfare of others.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 12:13 AM (Z58Xa)

163 155 If you flip the 8 and it's Blue... It got's to be true!!!!!!

That's what I'm talkin' about.

Posted by: Johnny Cochran at January 06, 2016 12:14 AM (u5gzz)

164 Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something.

Bobby is trapped in the old mine shaft.

Been there done that.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:14 AM (qUNWi)

165 "I am hoping the squeaking is just due to rust on the drums and rotors;
this car has sat idle for years. But if it doesn't clear up, I can fix
it. Chamfer the edges of the brake pads, tighten up loose parts. That
will generally fix noises."

Relube the caliper slide pins. They dry out. Sometimes they rust in the bores.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:15 AM (noWW6)

166 Nikola Tesla would be appalled with the car company that bears his name and smite it with a mighty bolt of alternating current.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:15 AM (kpqmD)

167 Bobby is trapped in the old mine shaft.

Been there done that.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:14 AM (qUNWi)


Well then, he's fucked. With all the rain here in the PHX area, that old mine shaft is flooded, and he done drowned.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:16 AM (cKwwS)

168 The old lady in the cantina is like the wise old hobo who mumbles a great truth that changes the hero's life.

Plus she gave Luke a deal on storing his stuff.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:16 AM (MQEz6)

169 Since the Norks claim they've tested an H-bomb, this song isn't *quite* appropriate, but it's close enough:

Atom Bomb Baby

http://tinyurl.com/p3r6brr

Might want to read "One Second Later", just sayin'.

I just finished "One Year Later". Not bad.

Posted by: Thrawn at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (s87AC)

170 Slow ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (8ltB7)

171 'shows' is present tense...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:08 AM (f7rv6)


"Shows" is not just present tense. It is usually used for general action distinct from time - "He shows his car whenever he gets the chance," or, more directly, "He shows cars." That doesn't mean that he's showing cars right now, but that he shows cars, in general, without respect to time. It is what he does.

If you really wanted to use "show" in the present tense you would have to use the progressive and clarify that you are speaking about the current moment with "to be" - "He is showing cars."

Think about it:

"He is showing cars." - present tense.
"He shows cars." - what he does, irrespective of time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (zc3Db)

172 RK you headed to co anytime soon?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (voOPb)

173 Plus she gave Luke a deal on storing his stuff.
Posted by: eman
-----------------

I do that all of the time.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (Z58Xa)

174 132 Doggie is bugging me something fierce tonight. She wants something. She's had food, water, biscuits. Doesn't want to go out to pee. Don't know what's on her mind.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:07 AM (cKwwS)

It's obvious. She wants to go for a ride!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (GzDYP)

175 155 If you flip the 8 and it's Blue...

It got's to be true!!!!!!
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (qUNWi)

Lewd! Lascivious! Salacious! Outrageous!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (kpqmD)

176 Apropos of nothing, I was meditating today on a sort of compare and contrast thing:

TFG - mom-jeans and a helmet on a beach-cruiser bike.

Putin - Member of the Hell's Angels, cub-name "Abbadon," as from Revelation.

TFG - cried at a singing of Natural Woman, lectures us and says he cries when he hears of school-shootings or attacks on theatres.

Putin - Would never cop to crying. School-shootings and attacks on theatres are answered with massive military force.

I'm not saying Putin's a good guy, but it's clear he's not weak, and it's also clear he doesn't hate Russia or its people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (lutOX)

177 RK was that what he knock knock joke started to be?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:19 AM (voOPb)

178 Atom bombs have atoms in them.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2016 12:19 AM (EWg9n)

179 His jerb is showing cars.


hah.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:19 AM (qUNWi)

180 Green -- must be flipped to verify that the back is not even (if it was even the rule fails)

So two cards.


Posted by: Bitblt at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (JgyZ/)


Even if you take the present tense situation out of the word 'shows'...

Then the question only asks if 'a' card has a blue back, and even on the other side.... a meaning singular... not all cards with blue backs having even numbers.


So I would say the question is poorly written, both as to Tense, and as to what is actually the condition that needs to be met...

Because IF the condition is ONE of the four cards must meet the blue and even condition... then you would need to flip the blue, and the 8...

and if the first met the condition, then you would not have to flip the second...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:20 AM (f7rv6)

181 173 Plus she gave Luke a deal on storing his stuff.
Posted by: eman
-----------------

I do that all of the time.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (Z58Xa)

So THAT'S where he stored his T-16!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:20 AM (kpqmD)

182 Love you, Maet...but I really could have lived for, oh, a hundred years and been happy not to have seen that Mama June picture. Do. Not. Want.To.Think.About. She/it freaks me out even in "normal" photos. harfing all the horks.

I will probably have weird dreams now. Or maybe vomit for the first time since 1976.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 06, 2016 12:20 AM (7lqMl)

183 Lewd! Lascivious! Salacious! Outrageous!

oh yeah...

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (qUNWi)

184 128 And how much do we taxpayers pay on every Tesla sold?

About $7500, last time I looked.
Posted by: GnuBreed
--------------------------

It is wealth transfer from the have-nots to the haves. But Green! , so it's okay.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 12:05 AM (Z58Xa)



Point of order: The $7500 rebate is for any electric car, not just a Tesla. It's government meddling in the free market in order to incentivize people to buy electric cars.

Since Tesla is a small car company catering to a high-end market, the vast majority of these subsidies go to the giants like GM and Toyota.

Who is more likely to be influenced by a $7500 rebate, the buyer of a $100,000 Tesla or the buyer of a $30,000 Chevy Volt?

That Tesla's stock is overvalued is a separate issue.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

185 I nuke ALL cards!
Problem solved.
Logically.

Posted by: kim jong-un at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (DLIIY)

186 Relube the caliper slide pins. They dry out. Sometimes they rust in the bores.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:15 AM (noWW6)


I don't know if it has caliper slide pins. Girling brakes, fixed calipers, most likely. But point taken. Parts that have to move, have to move freely. Parts that should not move, should be firmly fixed. Brake squeal is "chatter" at a very high rate, and chatter is due to loose parts, more often than not.


Decades ago, I attended a seminar given by a traveler from one of the big brake pad manufacturers, on dealing with brake noise. I paid attention, and applied what I learned, and it really did work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (cKwwS)

187 147
"It is wealth transfer from the have-nots to the haves. But Green! , so it's okay."

See
also: marginal low-income households having their electricity rates
surcharged so that affluent yuppie households can be subsidized to
install solar panels.



Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:10 AM (noWW6)

It's worse than that. People economically sort themselves into "rich" or "poor" by how they make economic choices. The more they go, "it's not worth it", the more they sort themselves into "rich"; the more they go, "I must have that even if I can't afford it right now", the more they end-up "poor".

So what you end-up with is people who go, "that's a nice technology, but it's at an infeasible price-point" advocating for subsidies so that they can justify buying the goods for virtue signaling....subsidies funded by people who must keep the electricity on even though the price is beyond their means. It is a cruel parody of the free market.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (EzgxV)

188 >>>> Who is she? Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination?
Her perfect skin is the hardest thing to explain with a straight face.
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (MQEz6)
---------
I know! Her and the black guy? I don't know either.

Same here about the pilot. He seemed important but it was never explained how he was important. . He had the role of Luke in the first movies but I never understood who the hell that guy was. Same for her.





Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (2x3L+)

189 Who is she? Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination?

She's a girl, that's all the explanation you're likely to get. Girls are just better, in movies and TV. Period.

Nikola Tesla would be appalled with the car company that bears his name and smite it with a mighty bolt of alternating current.

Given what a showman and part con artist he was, he'd probably appreciate it, actually.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (39g3+)

190 Another thing:

Putin's Russian Federation has a very good-sized and not only well-behaved, but even fiercely loyal Muslim population.

The Muslims respect and love him; the Orthodox Church respect and love him; the Jews respect and love him.

And he's an atheist and ex-KGB. The guy knows a thing or two.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:22 AM (lutOX)

191 It's obvious. She wants to go for a ride!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (GzDYP)


She has had 3 rides today, one in a sports car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:22 AM (cKwwS)

192 Private Preference, Public Punishment

Different people have difference preferences when it comes to who they think are "hot" looking. Apparently the wrong preferences can and will be punished by the college he goes to.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10684

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2016 12:22 AM (vBeA5)

193 First, I feel very inadequate offering AoP any sort of mechanical advise, especially on a classic.

That said, I dive in.

Don't just lube the caliper pins, wise though that may be.

Give the backs of the brake pads a light coat of grease (they make a brake grease just for this purpose, but the nomenclature eludes me).

Brake squeal, as we all know, is a harmonic arising from parts bearing against parts, but in a chattering, non linear fashion.

That chattering motion hits the right numbers of chatters per second, and it becomes Hz in the audible range.

Grease kills the chatter, and hence the squeal and noise.

So, we conclude.

Suitably greased, Ned Beatty need not have squealed like a pig.

/moron



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (McRlu)

194 "Slow ONT."

I'm in a crappy mood after reading some "yay it's totally understandable why parents would kill their worthless autistic children" comments. Why the hell I read things like that knowing that it will upset me is a question for a therapist.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (LzzEz)

195 Girling brakes?

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (qUNWi)

196 190 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:22 AM (lutOX)

I suspect he is an atheist by habit...

he gets REALLY pissed at Islam's attempted double standards WRT to the Orthodox Church...


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (g8Hfr)

197 "RK you headed to co anytime soon?"


Heh. No. I shouldn't have said anything. That ol' gal and I have been a thing for a long time. I just busted off and said "do it' the other night and thought "fiuck it."

She called today but I didn't answer.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:24 AM (8ltB7)

198
Think about it:

"He is showing cars." - present tense.
"He shows cars." - what he does, irrespective of time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (zc3Db)


gas gage shows empty.... its a current condition.

When you ask someone.... what does this gauge show.... you are asking for the current status... not a future status.

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:24 AM (f7rv6)

199 North Korea may have the Hydrogen Bomb...

but we have the Ununoctium Bomb with extra salsa.

Cha cha cha.

Posted by: mindful webworker - better living through chemistry at January 06, 2016 12:24 AM (ACs58)

200 194 "Slow ONT."

I'm in a crappy mood after reading some "yay it's totally understandable why parents would kill their worthless autistic children" comments. Why the hell I read things like that knowing that it will upset me is a question for a therapist.
Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (LzzEz)

WTF? Where'd you read that?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:25 AM (kpqmD)

201 170
Slow ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:17 AM (8ltB7)


Later ones run slower 'cause peeps bag.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:25 AM (EzgxV)

202 WTF? Where'd you read that?
The Omnibus Bill?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2016 12:25 AM (DLIIY)

203 "Lewd! Lascivious! Salacious! Outrageous!

oh yeah..."



Girlfriends can suck like that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:26 AM (8ltB7)

204
188 >>>> Who is she? Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination?
Her perfect skin is the hardest thing to explain with a straight face.
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (MQEz6)
---------
I know! Her and the black guy? I don't know either.

Same here about the pilot. He seemed important but it was never explained how he was important. . He had the role of Luke in the first movies but I never understood who the hell that guy was. Same for her.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (2x3L+)

I think we have a similar take on the movie. I am just so glad it was not another prequel-type stink bomb.

Nerd riots, cities burning.

It will not get any awards, but it brought Stars Wars back from the edge of the abyss.

The next one is already filming and will be out in two years. That one I think and hope will move away from anything we have seen in a SW movie.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:26 AM (MQEz6)

205 I'm pretty sure that Obama's Hollywood buddies taught him how to fake cry like Hilary Swank in that domestic violence PSA last year.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (l1aK+)

206 "Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination? "

Fan theory is that she's related to Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (LzzEz)

207 When you ask someone.... what does this gauge show.... you are asking for the current status... not a future status.

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:24 AM (f7rv6)


"What does the gas gauge show?" The gas gauge shows how much gas you have.

"What is the gas gauge showing?" is the correct phrasing to find out the current level.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (zc3Db)

208 SMOD/protomolecule 2016!

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (5zyvn)

209 Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

And what is sad??? I ran the numbers about 5 years ago...

If you take the Gasoline used for transportation and convert that to Kilowatt hours... ie what you use to power electric cars...

If everyone used electric cars we would have to increase electricity generation and transmission in this country by 130%.... yes... more than DOUBLE Electricity generation...

Just don't see that happening with wind or solar...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (f7rv6)

210 196 190 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:22 AM (lutOX)

I suspect he is an atheist by habit...

he gets REALLY pissed at Islam's attempted double standards WRT to the Orthodox Church...


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (g8Hfr)
***
Yes, that's true. But notice, in the Federation, the State takes no official sides, but protects them all.

When Pussy Riot desecrated a church during a performance, they got the shit fined outta them.

Someone lifts a finger on a synagogue or mosque, the force of the state comes down on them. Conversely, anyone in a church, synagogue, or mosque raises a finger against a citizen of any or no faith, the hammer drops.

There's a brutal pragmatism to the man I can't help admiring.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (lutOX)

211 North Korea may have the Hydrogen Bomb...

but we have the Ununoctium Bomb with extra salsa.

Cha cha cha.
Posted by: mindful webworker - better living through chemistry

We have the Glitter Bomb!

Posted by: President Faaaabulous at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (/FOB4)

212
206 "Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination? "

Fan theory is that she's related to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (LzzEz)

Yup, or Anakin reincarnated.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

213 176
Apropos of nothing, I was meditating today on a sort of compare and contrast thing:



TFG - mom-jeans and a helmet on a beach-cruiser bike.



Putin - Member of the Hell's Angels, cub-name "Abbadon," as from Revelation.



TFG - cried at a singing of Natural Woman, lectures us and says he
cries when he hears of school-shootings or attacks on theatres.



Putin - Would never cop to crying. School-shootings and attacks on theatres are answered with massive military force.



I'm not saying Putin's a good guy, but it's clear he's not weak, and it's also clear he doesn't hate Russia or its people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:18 AM (lutOX)

Putin calculates. He wouldn't ride with the Hells Angels because his percentage in doing so wouldn't work. He'd be a helluva poker player.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

214 If everyone used electric cars we would have to increase electricity generation and transmission in this country by 130%.... yes... more than DOUBLE Electricity generation...

Just don't see that happening with wind or solar...
Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13

That's why "electric cars" are really coal-fired cars.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 06, 2016 12:30 AM (/FOB4)

215 212 Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

LITERALLY as in "no sex change needed"...

Anakin was an emo girl.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:30 AM (g8Hfr)

216 Putin calculates. He wouldn't ride with the Hells Angels because his percentage in doing so wouldn't work. He'd be a helluva poker player.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)
***
Well, the Russki equivalent - the Night Wolves. Interesting club - got a presence in the Donbass.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:30 AM (lutOX)

217 So I would say the question is poorly written, both as to Tense, and
as to what is actually the condition that needs to be met...


It's using formal logic language, which is more precise than everyday English.

IMO, the observed result is people not knowing the language and not understanding what the precise request is, rather than being illogical. What's tricky is that it's English, so it seems that any English speaker should just understand it.

If they used a French sentence, they would find most people don't know French, either ... but who cares?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:31 AM (1D4Ef)

218 "osted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:28"



You break that all down for us night people.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:31 AM (8ltB7)

219 "WTF? Where'd you read that?"

Oh it's everywhere, but this particular comment was on a post about a little girl (3) who was murdered by her mother some time back. The mom keeps trying to get new trials and claims all sorts of bullshit. Anyway I started going down the rabbit hole of the story and ended up reading the comment section of a post made in 2011. Not like I can respond to that asshole now.

And then there was another more recent story of a boy in Georgia whose mother murdered him. Apparently friends of the family are spamming stories about him saying things like "it wasn't murder!"

Uh. Killing shooting your own child is murder, you dumbasses. And then there's the "oh we know that she loved him so much and they're both loving each other in heaven" and blah blah blah.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:31 AM (LzzEz)

220 212
206 "Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination? "

Fan theory is that she's related to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (LzzEz)

Yup, or Anakin reincarnated.
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

No way. She's too perky to be Anakin reincarnated.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:32 AM (kpqmD)

221 Speaking of logic tests, I took one about twenty years ago that was multi-choice. Got done early and took it to the proctor and pointed out three that had no correct answer (it was not a 'pick the best answer' type test). Proctor coolly stated that it doesn't matter... Looked up the test later and found that it as 10% red herrings to mess with people.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (T78UI)

222 A dwarf planet is a planet.

Is a dwarf person not a person?

Right?

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (qUNWi)

223 >>>> Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:26 AM
------
This single movie redeemed the totally shitty prequels for me. The casting was so much better than the prequels. There were no whiny voices which was a nice relief from clothes horse Padme and adolescent Darth Vader though we get stuck with the noticeable, prominent British voices still. Ah well.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (2x3L+)

224 Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:31 AM (LzzEz)

That is horrible. People suck.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (kpqmD)

225 "If everyone used electric cars we would have to increase electricity
generation and transmission in this country by 130%.... yes... more than
DOUBLE Electricity generation..."

The head of one of the Canadian ("Hydro") electric utilities said that while he would be very very happy to see more electric cars, if more than about one household per suburban block buys one, that right there is going to start to get into very expensive grid rebuild territory.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (noWW6)

226
215 212 Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

LITERALLY as in "no sex change needed"...

Anakin was an emo girl.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:30 AM (g8Hfr)

He scored Natalie Portman.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (MQEz6)

227 Anakin was the death of Star Wars I know that.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (qUNWi)

228 And then there's the "oh we know that she loved him so much and they're both loving each other in heaven" and blah blah blah.

Posted by: Lauren

"I felt so sorry for them because they'll have to go through the rest of their lives without their mother."

-Shit a juror in the Menendez trial actually said

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 06, 2016 12:35 AM (/FOB4)

229 Putin - Can kill you with poison tipped umbrella, and you'd never see it coming

SCOAMF - Can't close an umbrella to get through a gateway with lots of cameras watching

Posted by: one of these things is not like the other at January 06, 2016 12:35 AM (H9MG5)

230 223 >>>> Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:26 AM
------
This single movie redeemed the totally shitty prequels for me. The casting was so much better than the prequels. There were no whiny voices which was a nice relief from clothes horse Padme and adolescent Darth Vader though we get stuck with the noticeable, prominent British voices still. Ah well.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (2x3L+)

Plus Daisy Ridley is very cute.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:35 AM (kpqmD)

231 "Is a dwarf person not a person?

Right?"


I think there's a show on the TV. Little People or such.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:36 AM (8ltB7)

232 226 Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (MQEz6)

and the Black Swan says she is bi for herself....so QED Anakin remains a girl....

just a Goth with blondish hair.....

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:36 AM (g8Hfr)

233 That's why "electric cars" are really coal-fired cars.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig
--------------

Unless you are within 85 or so miles of a 'clean' source, for plug-ins. In other words, not many are 'clean' cars.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 12:36 AM (Z58Xa)

234 by the way, Joy Behar admitted that she'd vote for a rapist, as long as he was a Democrat. She didn't go so far as to admit that she did, twice (at least) in 92 and 96.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 06, 2016 12:36 AM (39g3+)

235
223 >>>> Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:26 AM
------
This single movie redeemed the totally shitty prequels for me. The casting was so much better than the prequels. There were no whiny voices which was a nice relief from clothes horse Padme and adolescent Darth Vader though we get stuck with the noticeable, prominent British voices still. Ah well.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (2x3

The next one you have to see first.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:37 AM (MQEz6)

236 Laters....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 06, 2016 12:37 AM (8ltB7)

237 Who's got time for TV when there's so much internet?

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:37 AM (qUNWi)

238 Suitably greased, Ned Beatty need not have squealed like a pig.

/moron



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 06, 2016 12:23 AM (McRlu)


Heh. You can buy a product called "Disc Brake Quiet" which is a colored latex rubber cement that you slather over the back side of the brake pad to damp out vibrations. And new brake pads often come with paper shims to be placed between them and the caliper piston.


But look at those brake pads. They have hooks and tabs to locate them in the caliper. Those hooks and tabs need to be bent a tad so they grip the caliper, not just slip into the slot. Do that right, and they will never squeal. Also, grinding a narrow (1/16") chamfer on the leading/trailing edges of the friction material will go a long way towards eliminating squeal.


Both the above, proven by years of experience. Take it to the bank.


One more thing: front brakes on RWD cars. Don't over-tighten the spindle nut. They rely on a teeny-tiny bit of rotor runout to knock the pads back out of contact with the rotor, since there is no restoring force other than that provided by distortion of the O-ring seal in the caliper. Tighten spindle nut to zero run-out; back off half a flat, install cotter pin.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:37 AM (cKwwS)

239 Most remarkable thing about Putin as a person is that what little we know about his biography suggests that he's living proof of "fake it 'til you make it." An apparatchik, of sorts, by no means anything more or else than a coolly competent operative, something of a nerd, in fact, and a bit of an oddity by Russki standards as a teetotaller. The classic "man in the grey flannel suit."

And look what he's built himself up into.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:38 AM (lutOX)

240 222
A dwarf planet is a planet.



Is a dwarf person not a person?



Right?


Depends on how well they've cleaned out their local neighborhood.

Posted by: Swiffer at January 06, 2016 12:38 AM (o78gS)

241 227 Anakin was the death of Star Wars I know that.
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (qUNWi)

Jar Jar motherfvcking Binks

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:38 AM (kpqmD)

242 "
"I felt so sorry for them because they'll have to go through the rest of their lives without their mother."

*thud*

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:39 AM (LzzEz)

243 222 A dwarf planet is a planet.

Is a dwarf person not a person?

Right?
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:33 AM (qUNWi)

But you can't toss a dwarf planet though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:39 AM (kpqmD)

244 The head of one of the Canadian ("Hydro")
electric utilities said that while he would be very very happy to see
more electric cars, if more than about one household per suburban block
buys one, that right there is going to start to get into very expensive
grid rebuild territory.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (noWW6)



The level of wishful thinking with respect to EVs and related green technology is sad. I read a Slashdot comment claiming that solar powered airplanes could compete with jetplanes if we just give it time.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:39 AM (1D4Ef)

245 Had our first fight about wedding plans. It's only been two weeks since I proposed. It was over the dumbest shit too.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (R5HRU)

246 Yeah, me too, eman. Actually, looking forward to the inevitable next one.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (2x3L+)

247 Tomorrow's forecast -- thunderstorms. Oh, joy.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (EzgxV)

248 gas gage shows empty.... its a current condition.
When you ask someone.... what does this gauge show.... you are asking for the current status... not a future status.
Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:24 AM (f7rv6)


You clearly missed your calling as a student at the Clinton School of Law. :-) Or actually any law school for that matter and I'm not snarking here.

The key detail that you're overlooking is the word 'if' at the beginning of the statement. This makes the statement a conditional statement which implies a hypothetical situation with no specified time frame i.e. it could apply both now and/or in the future. In English a conditional statement is usually expressed grammatically with the present tense and this encompasses hypothetical future occurrences as well.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (wqVD1)

249 I just do not get the little people thing. My son has pituitary dwarfism and I just can not imagine a world in which I would call him a "little person" outside of when he was a toddler or something.

I feel like they have to be trolling us with this.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:41 AM (bYGAR)

250 240 222
A dwarf planet is a planet.



Is a dwarf person not a person?



Right?

Depends on how well they've cleaned out their local neighborhood.



Posted by: Swiffer at January 06, 2016 12:38 AM (o78gS)


But a Red Dwarf??? Smeg me....

Posted by: Dave Lister at January 06, 2016 12:41 AM (f7rv6)

251 Had our first fight about wedding plans. It's only been two weeks since I proposed. It was over the dumbest shit too.

Make-up sex.

::nods::

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (qUNWi)

252 Help things I did not. Off the walls I did bounce. Absolutely ridiculous it was.

Posted by: jumping bean Yoda from the prequels at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (H9MG5)

253 "Had our first fight about wedding plans. "

Elope. Seriously.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (bYGAR)

254 @205. Recently saw Hillary swank portray a bitchy righteous single woman who ended up hanging herself in the film. Wish her & to my Lee jones would've taken the plunge in real life

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (voOPb)

255 The collapse of the USSR happening as it did, with a tiny fraction of the turmoil that coold have ocurred, was a miracle.

Is Putin a bad guy or as good a guy as you could hope to get?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (MQEz6)

256 245
Had our first fight about wedding plans. It's only been two weeks since I proposed. It was over the dumbest shit too.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (R5HRU)


Fights are always about stupid shit. Very first girl I lived with, we'd fight over the way the toilet paper came off the roll.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

257 When I am Queen of the Universe, the first thing I'm going to do --- well, after getting rid of the designated hitter rule and bringing back Pluto --- is put a limit on these new elements.

You should be able to fit the periodic table on a nice, laminated 8x11 inch thingy that fits in a normal looseleaf notebook. And the little squares have to be big enough so you can read the numbers without a frickin' magnifying glass.
So you just can't keep adding all of these stupid flash-in-the-pan elements.

I'm not saying we have to go back to the air, water, earth, and fire of Vic's day, but.... c'mon.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (T/5A0)

258 And let's compare and contrast the use of military force for national purposes.

"Little green men" waltz into the Crimea and liberate it with nary a shot fired.

Chechnya - okay, that was a bit rougher, but it's been damned quiet for a quite a long time now, and with little loss of Russian forces.

Ossetia, Georgia, the "near-abroad," as they call it - all these places.

And even look at Syria.

It's not that Russian forces are larger in number, or greater in striking power, than NATO or Western forces; it's that they're actually used intelligently, economically, with clear goals in mind.

Ours? Not so much.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (lutOX)

259
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (qUNWi)

Ha! Not tonight my friend.

She wants to read what I'm going to write my groomsmen/best man in the letters I'm sending them to ask them to take on those roles.

Told her no.

Fight ensues.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (R5HRU)

260 >>>> Had our first fight about wedding plans.
------
Ummm.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (2x3L+)

261 "Is Putin a bad guy or as good a guy as you could hope to get?"

Well he's supposedly orchestrated several plans to kill off his own people to elicit sympathy so...yes?

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (bYGAR)

262 Fights are always about stupid shit. Very first girl I lived with, we'd fight over the way the toilet paper came off the roll.

0.o

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (qUNWi)

263 245 Had our first fight about wedding plans. It's only been two weeks since I proposed. It was over the dumbest shit too.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:40 AM (R5HRU)

My now ex-wife alternated between bitch and basket case in the run up to the wedding. I should have listened to my gut and called it off but oh no, I had to be all honorable and shit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (kpqmD)

264 209
If everyone used electric cars we would have to increase electricity generation and transmission in this country by 130%.... yes... more than DOUBLE Electricity generation...

Posted by: BB Wolf, aka Romeo13 at January 06, 2016 12:27 AM (f7rv6)



No problem. The elites will have their electric cars, and the proles will have their electricity rationed.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (sdi6R)

265 256 Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

She went on to work for EPA yes?

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (g8Hfr)

266 " we'd fight over the way the toilet paper came off the roll."

Over.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (bYGAR)

267 If I remember right, Putin's doctoral thesis was on destabilizing western economies through currency manipulation.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (/FOB4)

268 255 The collapse of the USSR happening as it did, with a tiny fraction of the turmoil that coold have ocurred, was a miracle.

Is Putin a bad guy or as good a guy as you could hope to get?
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (MQEz6)
***
Embrace the power of "and."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (lutOX)

269 Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (bYGAR)

Not an option. Although I'm not totally against it.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (R5HRU)

270 Fights are always about stupid shit. Very first girl I lived with, we'd fight over the way the toilet paper came off the roll.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)


Toilet paper with printed patterns always has the pattern on the convex side of the sheet as it lies on the roll. QED

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (cKwwS)

271
241 227 Anakin was the death of Star Wars I know that.
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:34 AM (qUNWi)

Jar Jar motherfvcking Binks
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:38 AM (kpqmD)

On Robot Chicken Darth Vader killed him.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (MQEz6)

272 259
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:42 AM (qUNWi)

Ha! Not tonight my friend.

She wants to read what I'm going to write my groomsmen/best man in the letters I'm sending them to ask them to take on those roles.

Told her no.

Fight ensues.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (R5HRU)

Dude, that's a warning sign to me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (kpqmD)

273 Before the Star Wars discussion merges with the card puzzle discussion in a conflagration of meme-crossing, I'm going to wave goodbye.

* does the wave *

Good night, Gracies!

Posted by: mindful webworker - particle or wave? You be the judge at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (ACs58)

274 267 Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (/FOB4)

I knew I liked the guy at some level...

I wrote about currency games ala Soros in High School...


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:47 AM (g8Hfr)

275 halfafrican, just remember, the wedding is for her. The dress. It's a fairy tale that she came up with a long time ago. Let the small stuff go.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:47 AM (2x3L+)

276 Wedding fights. Bummer.

We got married by a judge. Looking back, I shoulda asked for a jury.


/Dangerfield (pbuh)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (McRlu)

277 267
If I remember right, Putin's doctoral thesis was on destabilizing western economies through currency manipulation.
--

I do believe The Won's "doctoral thesis" was on "voting present."

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (9JJgN)

278 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (kpqmD)

Her reasoning is because the day is about us, not a single individual. Plus she wants to take pictures of them, which is fine but reading what I write to them? No. If they wanna share they can but it's up to them.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (R5HRU)

279 261 "Is Putin a bad guy or as good a guy as you could hope to get?"

Well he's supposedly orchestrated several plans to kill off his own people to elicit sympathy so...yes?
Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (bYGAR)
***
I've heard and read those rumors.

But the "black widow" phenomenon, plus Beslan, etc., etc., sort of relegates that to "9/11 was an Inside Job" territory.

And remember, too, that a lot of that comes from sources funded by the guys who looted Yeltsin's Russia and got spanked by Putin for it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (lutOX)

280 249
I just do not get the little people thing. My son has pituitary dwarfism
and I just can not imagine a world in which I would call him a "little
person" outside of when he was a toddler or something.



I feel like they have to be trolling us with this.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:41 AM (bYGAR)


The big "tell" is that it isn't about "Fred", it's about a "little person". The speaker wants to put your son in a convenient box and manipulate him (and you) based on that box. It's not trolling, it's attempted manipulation and depersonalization.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:49 AM (EzgxV)

281
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:47 AM (2x3L+)

I get that but FFS, that is, in my opinion, a ridiculous request.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:49 AM (R5HRU)

282 Who is she? Why is she so good at this stuff? Is it her family ties or the Force or some combination?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:11 AM (MQEz6)


Is it too soon for spoilers, even (strong speculation) style spoilers?

BTW, I noticed people asking why the defector could even do anything with a lightsaber.

Remember his battle with the guy with the giant electric tonfa (that's a vibro-blade, BTW, a sort of poor man's lightsaber)?

Well, this defector had the same training. So technically he was trained with a blade. No, he can't go toe-to-toe with a jedi/sith, at least not for long, but he does have training.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2016 12:49 AM (bLnSU)

283 We got married by a judge. Looking back, I shoulda asked for a jury.


lol

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (qUNWi)

284 278 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:46 AM (kpqmD)

Her reasoning is because the day is about us, not a single individual. Plus she wants to take pictures of them, which is fine but reading what I write to them? No. If they wanna share they can but it's up to them.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (R5HRU)

Stand your ground, man.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (kpqmD)

285 And remember, too, that a lot of that comes from sources funded by the guys who looted Yeltsin's Russia and got spanked by Putin for it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:48 AM (lutOX)
***
That is, the ones who didn't end up dead.

But what's a little polonium between friends, right?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (lutOX)

286 Dwarf Planet sounds like a place with lots of beards and axes. And mead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 06, 2016 12:51 AM (39g3+)

287 283 We got married by a judge. Looking back, I shoulda asked for a jury.


lol
Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (qUNWi)

Especially since execution was to follow.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:51 AM (kpqmD)

288 A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check, no questions asked. @POTUS #StopGunViolence


So how do we get Lynch & Obama to go field trip to 3 gunshows, 3 gunshows, 3 gunshows with indoor shooting ranges?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:51 AM (voOPb)

289 Remember his battle with the guy with the giant electric tonfa (that's a vibro-blade, BTW, a sort of poor man's lightsaber)?

Well, this defector had the same training. So technically he was trained with a blade. No, he can't go toe-to-toe with a jedi/sith, at least not for long, but he does have training.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2016 12:49 AM (bLnSU)


Tonfa? Izzat what you carve a turkey with?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:52 AM (cKwwS)

290 262
Fights are always about stupid shit. Very first girl I lived with, we'd fight over the way the toilet paper came off the roll.



0.o

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2016 12:44 AM (qUNWi)


It's all about finding ways to let off steam without actually dealing with any real issues.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:52 AM (EzgxV)

291 Gun shop, gun shop with range.

Not all gunshows Sorry

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (voOPb)

292 Oh shit, halfarfican, I am so sorry to say this, but she sounds like a total control freak.

Think srsly about what you do next.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

293 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (kpqmD)

I plan on it. I know you said warning sign but I'm not concerned. Without going personal, I'm pretty sure I know why she's acting like this.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (R5HRU)

294 151 Malcolm Kirkpatrick

Yep. They need to specify that one side has a number and the other has a solid colour (or at least, has no number). That's assumed, but they don't actually say so.

That's the kind of assumption that makes space probes crash into Mars.

Posted by: Pixy and the Hamsters at January 06, 2016 12:54 AM (2yngH)

295 Fights are always about stupid shit.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)


Well ... at least, from one side they are

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 12:54 AM (zc3Db)

296 286 Dwarf Planet sounds like a place with lots of beards and axes. And mead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 06, 2016 12:51 AM (39g3+)



And Tunnels. Lots and lots of tunnels.

Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 06, 2016 12:54 AM (zt+N6)

297 Tonfa? Izzat what you carve a turkey with?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 12:52 AM (cKwwS)


It's a club with a handle that sticks out the side.

Do an image search, you've probably seen them before.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM (bLnSU)

298 halfafrican, just remember, the wedding is for her.

No it isn't. Don't encourage Bridezillas.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM (1D4Ef)

299 Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

She's really not. I have a shit load of freedom to do what I want within respectable reason ie; taking into consideration if there's shit she wants to do as a family or by herself.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM (R5HRU)

300
292 Oh shit, halfarfican, I am so sorry to say this, but she sounds like a total control freak.

Think srsly about what you do next.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

What would Putin do?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:56 AM (MQEz6)

301 "What would Putin do?"

Well that escalated quickly!

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (bYGAR)

302 293 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (kpqmD)

I plan on it. I know you said warning sign but I'm not concerned. Without going personal, I'm pretty sure I know why she's acting like this.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (R5HRU)

Fair enough. If you've got a satisfactory explanation that you're OK with I can't argue with that. If this sort of thing continues - shit tests, trying to intrude in your space with your friends - then from one man to another I'd have to do a gut check. That's probably more than I should say on the subject as it is...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (kpqmD)

303 300
292 Oh shit, halfarfican, I am so sorry to say this, but she sounds like a total control freak.

Think srsly about what you do next.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

What would Putin do?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:56 AM (MQEz6)

A Gymnast?

Posted by: Dave Lister at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (f7rv6)

304 265
256 Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

She went on to work for EPA yes?


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 12:45 AM (g8Hfr)


No, she and I broke up; she moved to Silicon Valley, I followed; she went through several relationships; the fiancee and I attended her wedding and I had a dance with the bride....the fiancee and I are still together, working on our third decade....I've lost track of her.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

305 What would Putin do?
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:56 AM (MQEz6)


Wrestle bears half naked.

Then blow up the earth with awesome dance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wga5A6R9BJg

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:58 AM (1D4Ef)

306 298
Don't encourage Bridezillas.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM (1D4Ef)


I was talking recently with a woman who is a wedding planner.

I told her my quip that "the more expensive the wedding, the shorter the marriage".

She laughed and agreed with me.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 12:58 AM (sdi6R)

307 Good nite moronic friends
Be we'll, hoping that th creek don't rise on yo

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2016 12:58 AM (voOPb)

308 I think "little person" is part of the never-ending futile cycle to get us to rename things and take away the perception of negative judgement.

"Retarded" once meant retarded (slowed) development, but once it became used as a pejorative nice people had to find synonyms. They in turn become bad and become replaced.

I have a negro housemate who is quite younger than I and I used that word to teach him things that he did not know. That negro was the polite word, then coloured, then black, then afro-American, and on through the years.

I think, and this is pure speculation, that "little people" was also supposed to paper over the dwarf v. midget divide.

I question whether this or any other linguistic tricks matters.

People are people, they are who they are. The words don't define them. I'm sure your son is a wonderful human being.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 06, 2016 12:59 AM (1xUj/)

309 I hope some enterprising young buck ( or lass) at one of these campaigns has the stones to use the Hillary "H" logo every time the word hydrogen or phrase h-bomb is used in connection to Bill.

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 06, 2016 12:59 AM (Dc/ui)

310 303 300
292 Oh shit, halfarfican, I am so sorry to say this, but she sounds like a total control freak.

Think srsly about what you do next.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

What would Putin do?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:56 AM (MQEz6)

A Gymnast?
Posted by: Dave Lister at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (f7rv6)

There could not be a more perfect answer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:59 AM (kpqmD)

311 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (kpqmD)

I appreciate that. She never tries to intrude on me hanging with my friends. Never been a problem.

I just think she so wants this wedding to be everything her first wasn't.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (R5HRU)

312 >>>> Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM ------
No offense intended, but that sounds more like a mathmetic equation than a life long marriage. You should take pause. I would in your place. I don't want you to be hurt or make a mistake that becomes hard to undo.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (2x3L+)

313 I can see it now: Errol Flynn, in a sword fight with some dude with an electric vibrating sword. "Swish, zzzrm!" Flynn steps back a little. Opponent, sensing weakness, advances, "Zzrmn, swish!" Flynn steps back a little more. "Swish, zzrmm!" Steps back once more. Opponent's sword cord pulls out of wall socket. "Swish, thunk!" Opponent's head rolls in aisle.


True story: my granny met Errol Flynn when she was baby-sitting for Earl Caldough, a financial high-flyer who hosted Flynn at his home in Vancouver, just weeks before Flynn's death. She said he was a very charming fellow.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (cKwwS)

314 Well folks, if we ever have that Los Angeles or Las Vegas Moron Meetup, I'll be sure and bring one of these.

http://www.hersheysstore.com/product/7452

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (ntObR)

315 AOP, have read that Flynn was into women who were, diplomatically speaking, *way* underage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 01:02 AM (ntObR)

316 293 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:50 AM (kpqmD)

I plan on it. I know you said warning sign but I'm not concerned. Without going personal, I'm pretty sure I know why she's acting like this.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (R5HRU)
***
Engaged four times, married and divorced once, so YMMW.

I've never regretted a single one of my loves. My marriage was ill-considered, our life together was difficult (and there's always two sides to something like that; I'm sure I was no bargain for her, either), the divorce was ugly, but we've managed to patch things up since and are best friends again.

Non, je ne regrette nien, as Edith Piaf, the Foreign Legion, and anyone who has truly lived, would say.

Here's Ute Lemper, a living goddess, telling you as much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdU-SMHkaw

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:02 AM (lutOX)

317 I'm off to complete a Jedi Mind Meld with my pillow.

(which oughta start up a nice Star Wars/Trek pissin' match?)

May the Farce Live Long and Prosper!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 06, 2016 01:03 AM (McRlu)

318 Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (2x3L+)

Guess I wasn't clear. I can do what I want, when I want.

Any relationship is a two way street and that includes time. I'm respectful of her time and she's respectful of mine.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:03 AM (R5HRU)

319
299 Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

She's really not. I have a shit load of freedom to do what I want within respectable reason ie; taking into consideration if there's shit she wants to do as a family or by herself.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 12:55 AM (R5HRU)

Dude, if you can stay married and get a mancave and be happy, this stuff happening now will wash away like water.



Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:03 AM (MQEz6)

320 halfafrican, whatever you do, I sincerely wish nothing but good things.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 01:04 AM (2x3L+)

321 (And my angel and many sweet "nieces" make things interesting and pleasant. So there's that.)

Love without fear - you'll only ever regret those you didn't love. Voice of experience.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:05 AM (lutOX)

322 AOP, have read that Flynn was into women who were, diplomatically speaking, *way* underage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 01:02 AM (ntObR)


I wouldn't doubt that. But even as a mostly broken-down alcoholic, he could charm the pants off sensible middle-aged ladies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:06 AM (cKwwS)

323 Wasn't Flynn a junkie, too?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:08 AM (MQEz6)

324 I think "little person" is part of the never-ending futile cycle to get
us to rename things and take away the perception of negative judgement.


Language control is the first step to thought control. This isn't altruism; this is cynical use of our sympathy for the weak to gain totalitarian power.

That the language continually shifts is a feature - we can no longer know what we are talking about, because innocent use of a word according to its correct definition may suddenly trigger offense.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 01:10 AM (1D4Ef)

325 Non, je ne regrette nien

I drink daily from the bitter spirit of distilled regret. It feels sometimes like every single choice I made - or failed to make - was wrong.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:10 AM (kpqmD)

326 Wasn't Flynn a junkie, too?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:08 AM (MQEz6)


Quite possibly. I am no expert on the guy. This encounter with my granny happened when I was maybe 7 years old, and she was maybe 40-something. Not like they had an affair; she showed up to babysit Caldough's kids, and Flynn was there, and made small talk before they headed out to the Cave, or Isy's, or the Penthouse.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (cKwwS)

327 311 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 12:57 AM (kpqmD)

I appreciate that. She never tries to intrude on me hanging with my friends. Never been a problem.

I just think she so wants this wedding to be everything her first wasn't.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:01 AM (R5HRU)

I wish you the absolute best.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (kpqmD)

328 Speaking of weddings, I've officially crossed over into being a crank.

I have a friend from high school who got married a little over a year ago. She is constantly, constantly, constantly posting pictures from the wedding on facebook.

Yes, yes, we get it. You got married. 15 months ago. STOP IT.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (LzzEz)

329 Yeah, Insomniac, same here. You're not alone.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (2x3L+)

330
325 Non, je ne regrette nien

I drink daily from the bitter spirit of distilled regret. It feels sometimes like every single choice I made - or failed to make - was wrong.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:10 AM (kpqmD)

Maybe they were all right because they led you here.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (MQEz6)

331 255 The collapse of the USSR happening as it did, with a tiny fraction of the turmoil that coold have ocurred, was a miracle.

Is Putin a bad guy or as good a guy as you could hope to get?

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 12:43 AM (MQEz6)
---
Yeah shit could have gone very differently, in really bad way.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (MbrzC)

332 Ah finally the truth comes out; she's upset primarily when she told me we had to do wedding stuff on Saturday my attitude changed.

Which is true, I forgot I agreed to it. I apologized for forgetting and told her I'm not putting up with any Bridezilla shit.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (R5HRU)

333 Here's Ute Lemper, a living goddess, telling you as much.


That is an outstanding version, thanks.

"Rien" btw, because I'm a dick.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (1xUj/)

334 Thanks to the well wishers. Hell speak your peace don't feel like you're going to hurt my feelings

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:14 AM (R5HRU)

335 We all have regrets.

Only perfect people and pychopaths do not.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:14 AM (MQEz6)

336 Once the ecofascists have their way, our grid will be like that of some third world hell holes I've heard tell of. The voltage regulation is well, nonexistent. I remember one story -- this is real -- of a guy who was in one of these places and he couldn't decide whether standard voltage was 120 or 240Vish based on the variation. Frequency regulation was ridiculous as well.

At times of peak load, voltage dropped to nothing and frequency was running sllllllowwww. No load times and the voltage went way high.

And all that was when it was actually working.

Well, ecofascists as well as these "NIMBY" types who throw hissy fits at the thought of a new transmission line anywhere near them. Locally, I remember wanting to just shoot some woman who was screaming that her precious whelps were going to be "Sleeping" next to a new proposed substation.

Those fields cause cancer you know, she stated.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at January 06, 2016 01:15 AM (dvuhZ)

337 325 Non, je ne regrette nien

I drink daily from the bitter spirit of distilled regret. It feels sometimes like every single choice I made - or failed to make - was wrong.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:10 AM (kpqmD)
***
I've been there, and there are times I go back there, too.....

But life is too short, our time in the Sun far too brief, for that. The grave awaits us all - better by far to embrace the temporary bliss that can be ours, as the eternal nothing to follow is assured.

There's a certain liberation in knowing that we're mortal it makes everything both important and utterly insignificant.

But I'm a guy who reads Ecclesiastes a few times a year, and can almost quote Camus from memory.

But this I know - I've only ever regretted what I haven't done; that being so, I try to do as much as I can. I'm only at this banquet for a little while, so I'll try any and every dish passed me that looks good. It will not come again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:15 AM (lutOX)

338 328 Speaking of weddings, I've officially crossed over into being a crank.

I have a friend from high school who got married a little over a year ago. She is constantly, constantly, constantly posting pictures from the wedding on facebook.

Yes, yes, we get it. You got married. 15 months ago. STOP IT.



Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (LzzEz)



"Oh you got married again? So Soon? And just over a year since the last wedding!"

Maybe she'd get the hint. If not, everyone else will laugh.

Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 06, 2016 01:16 AM (zt+N6)

339 Utter sock failure above. I am a freakin' idiot, bigger than that stupid woman I was talking about not to catch that. Sheesh.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 06, 2016 01:16 AM (dvuhZ)

340 "she's upset primarily when she told me we had to do wedding stuff on Saturday my attitude changed.
"

See, I just admittedly don't understand this mindset because I am so not a planner. We planned our wedding in 3 weeks. Called the pastor. Set the date. Ordered some flowers. Done. Of course, like 5 people came to our wedding, but whatever.

I wanted to elope. Husband thought I'd regret not having the ceremony. I'm glad we have pictures for the kids, but man, I can not even imagine the stress of doing the normal wedding planning crap for months (or years) on end.

All that to say, I can't really give you a good idea of what's normal bride behavior vs bridezilla. I know I'm not normal.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:17 AM (LzzEz)

341 Posted by: Roxy Raye at January 06, 2016 01:15 AM (dvuhZ)

Offer to keep the substation up your ass to protect everyone safe from the cancer rays.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:18 AM (kpqmD)

342 "Maybe she'd get the hint. If not, everyone else will laugh."

Haha brilliant.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:18 AM (LzzEz)

343 333 Here's Ute Lemper, a living goddess, telling you as much.


That is an outstanding version, thanks.

"Rien" btw, because I'm a dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (1xUj/)
***
And because I love you like a brother, I don't mind your noticing my fingers get fatter when I drink....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:18 AM (lutOX)

344 Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:17 AM (LzzEz)

And therein lies the difference. I don't think you did it wrong either, it was whatever you got down with. After all it was your day, know what I mean?

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:19 AM (R5HRU)

345 Mrs Hades and I ran off to the Blue Ridge Mountains and got married one weekend. It took about ten minutes to set it all up with the chapel and she fretted about it for three months. She only started to relax at the hotel afterwards.


In our case it was either the two of us at the wedding chapel in the mountains or rent out the Washington National Cathedral for an all-day ceremony. No regrets going the way we did on either side.

Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at January 06, 2016 01:20 AM (30qi/)

346 Speaking of weddings, I've officially crossed over into being a crank.

I have a friend from high school who got married a little over a year ago. She is constantly, constantly, constantly posting pictures from the wedding on facebook.

Yes, yes, we get it. You got married. 15 months ago. STOP IT.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (LzzEz)


I think it's nice that she's still so thrilled about having gotten married. I can't say that I would bother looking at any of her photos, but if she gets a kick out of it let her have her fun.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 01:20 AM (zc3Db)

347 (and all those languages get sort of mixed up together when the slivo flows.... My angel tells me I babble in the most amazing sort of way when I've had too many. "sounds like a room full of germans, russians, and I don't know what are arguing," she says.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:21 AM (lutOX)

348 Well, ecofascists as well as these "NIMBY" types who throw hissy fits at the thought of a new transmission line anywhere near them. Locally, I remember wanting to just shoot some woman who was screaming that her precious whelps were going to be "Sleeping" next to a new proposed substation.

Those fields cause cancer you know, she stated.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at January 06, 2016 01:15 AM (dvuhZ)


My Sis has a vacation place in Nicaragua. Brownouts, or blackouts are a fact of life there. The grid is fragile, and all sources of energy are imported. Oh, there is a long row of windmills on the SW shore of the big lake, Cochibolca, aka Lago de Nicaragua, but they don't do much.


I am headed there on Friday. For a week, woo-hoo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:21 AM (cKwwS)

349 And on that somber note I'm going to try to get some shut eye.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 06, 2016 01:21 AM (kpqmD)

350
343 333 Here's Ute Lemper, a living goddess, telling you as much.


That is an outstanding version, thanks.

"Rien" btw, because I'm a dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 06, 2016 01:12 AM (1xUj/)
***
And because I love you like a brother, I don't mind your noticing my fingers get fatter when I drink....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:18 AM (lutOX)

Very hot gal, Ute is.

Just don't forget the safe word.

Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:23 AM (MQEz6)

351 That said, I say you have the "we can't let this make us crazy" talk now and then have make up sex and then go forward with trying not to make it make you crazy.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:23 AM (LzzEz)

352 316
Here's Ute Lemper, a living goddess, telling you as much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdU-SMHkaw
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:02 AM (lutOX)


Never heard of her before. That was good. The next video that autoplayed, a live one, was even better.

I don't regret much that I've done in my life, but I'm constantly kicking myself for saying dumb, thoughtless, and insensitive things, which I do with monotonous regularity.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 01:24 AM (sdi6R)

353 A buddy of mine, well he's about 15 years older than me, finally got married about 10 years ago in his late 40s. He runs a cabinet making shop.

One day he told his crew his was taking the afternoon off the next day, which was a Friday. And so he was going to change their normal schedule a bit and send them out installing that afternoon rather than whatever was normal. So, after lunch the next day he says see ya and takes off.

He got married that Friday afternoon. And was back at work on Monday as normal, and said absolutely nothing about it. They went before a justice of the peace. No honeymoon, nor desire for one. And just about no money spent other than whatever the fees were, and he likely bitched about that.

Now, if I could find a woman that would be fine with that, I might consider it......

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 06, 2016 01:24 AM (dvuhZ)

354 Very hot gal, Ute is.

Just don't forget the safe word.
Posted by: eman at January 06, 2016 01:23 AM (MQEz6)
***
I've lusted after her since '91...

At this point, safe words be damned.....

What a way to go.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:25 AM (lutOX)

355 I think it's nice that she's still so thrilled
about having gotten married. I can't say that I would bother looking at
any of her photos, but if she gets a kick out of it let her have her
fun.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2016 01:20 AM (zc3Db)


Wedding but not the marriage? Then again, I'm overly critical.

That said, a non-confrontational solution is to just hide the posts. I know, I know, just listing the options.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 01:25 AM (1D4Ef)

356 No problem. The elites will have their electric cars, and the proles will have their electricity rationed.
Posted by: rickl
---------------

More likely, the elite will be able to *afford* the power, and the proles will not. Same thing, just different method.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 01:26 AM (RrDm2)

357 More likely, the elite will be able to *afford* the power, and the proles will not. Same thing, just different method.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2016 01:26 AM (RrDm2)


Yes the gap between rich and poor is increasing, and the middle class is shrinking. All according to plan, comrade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:28 AM (cKwwS)

358 Wel, bed time for tired Peons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2016 01:30 AM (cKwwS)

359 Night all.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 06, 2016 01:31 AM (R5HRU)

360 "That said, a non-confrontational solution is to just hide the posts."

I really should. But I do have a morbid curiosity about how long it will last. My bet? Until she gets pregnant and then there will be the endless belly pictures followed by, of course, the daily baby pictures.

Baby pictures I don't mind as much since there's at least progression.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2016 01:31 AM (LzzEz)

361 I recommend Ute Lemper to one and all.....

I recommend love to one and all...

I recommend living while you can to one and all...

I recommend seducing anyone and everyone who appeals to you....

Life is brief. Here's a hundred year old Japanese song to prove it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5M4AkIeTE

Sung by Takashi Imura

Or, for a more modern, and much more technically perfect, but far less heartfelt version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbzDKCz24E
And with that, off to sleep it off.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 06, 2016 01:32 AM (lutOX)

362 Calling it a night folks. Thanks for the great chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2016 01:34 AM (ntObR)

363 Had our first fight about wedding plans. It's only been two weeks since I proposed. It was over the dumbest shit too.
Posted by: thathalfrican


I went TDY to Korea for 6 months after proposing. Made the wedding planning much easier.

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2016 01:36 AM (fBkaR)

364 Re: The Big Divide in Europe. To be honest, I don't really know what it explains. Obviously a lot of young people live with their parents in many, but not all, countries. But what does it say about the different European countries? I don't know. Am I missing something?

Posted by: dvorasymanov at January 06, 2016 01:42 AM (bz0gL)

365 G'nite Horde. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 06, 2016 01:49 AM (1D4Ef)

366

Noticed over at Hot Air (Center column, #3), and possibly to be an item over the next few weeks:

"MO legislators to Mizzou: Fire professor who tried to "muscle" reporter"

A majority of legislators of both chambers signed the letter. The local KC newspaper is butthurt. Mizzou may not have gotten the message.

I predict Mizzou WILL get their State Legislature's message, and Click will be handed over to ... The Job Market.

I wonder if the KC Star will hire her.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 06, 2016 02:12 AM (FlRtG)

367 364 Re: The Big Divide in Europe. To be honest, I don't really know what it explains. Obviously a lot of young people live with their parents in many, but not all, countries. But what does it say about the different European countries? I don't know. Am I missing something?
Posted by: dvorasymanov at January 06, 2016 01:42 AM (bz0gL)


The first thing I note is that the green countries are the most affluent. (Note that the U.S. is comparable to England on the map.)

The idea that young people should move out and live on their own the minute they turn 18 is very recent. The sexual revolution played a large part in this. And obviously, this is easier to do in richer countries.

But it's a double-edged sword.

Traditionally, it was perfectly normal for multiple generations to live in the same household, and in poorer countries it is more or less a necessity.

The traditional arrangements tend to make for more close-knit families that pass traditions down to their children. Young people living on their own will tend to be more rootless, and cut off from their history and traditions.

It looks like the green countries are the ones that are feeling the Muslim invasion most acutely, and seem to be incapable of resisting it.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2016 02:13 AM (sdi6R)

368 367: That's exactly right. One of the big benefits of multi-generational households is the young get exposed to old. Those in the prime were out working, while grandma and grandpa tended the children. Hell, that's the way I was raised, really, although grandma was in a different house, just down the road a wee bit.

As a child, I spent as much time with grandma as I did my parents. Grandma during the day, parents at night.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 06, 2016 02:25 AM (dvuhZ)

369 366




Noticed over at Hot Air (Center column, #3), and possibly to be an item over the next few weeks:



"MO legislators to Mizzou: Fire professor who tried to "muscle" reporter"



A majority of legislators of both chambers signed the letter. The
local KC newspaper is butthurt. Mizzou may not have gotten the message.



I predict Mizzou WILL get their State Legislature's message, and Click will be handed over to ... The Job Market.



I wonder if the KC Star will hire her.



Posted by: Arbalest at January 06, 2016 02:12 AM (FlRtG)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBeXnzjvMrk


With any luck, she'll have to relocate to some collapsing blue state.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 02:27 AM (EzgxV)

370 OK, I figured out the "illogical thinking" card/color/number problem in only about 45 seconds, just from looking at the picture and reading the ONT paragraph above.

I then clicked on the video, chose the "correct" answer (8 and green), and was rewarded by going to the "You have selected the correct answer!" video.

Woo-hoo!, I thought. I was right! Boy am I smart!

BUT THEN...

...something in the video's original intro problem-posing question (which I hadn't viewed when first figuring out the problem) nagged at my psyche.

So I went back and watched it again, and was stunned to realize that not only was I myself wrong, but the testmaker was wrong, and that the entire experiment has been a massive FAIL for decades!

Here is what the video says, verbatim:

"You are shown a set of four cards. Each card has a number on one side, and a color on the other side. We would like to test the truth of the following statement..." etc.

If one (as I did) mistakenly jumps to a certain conclusion not supported by the actual wording of the problem, then yes, the answer is 8 and green.

That assumption is this:

That each card has exclusively only either a number or a color on each of its sides.

But that level of precision is not detailed in the way the problem is posed.

The key sentence is, "Each card has a number on one side, and a color on the other side."

Notice how there is no "only" in the sentence, or any other words forbidding the possibility that one or more cards could conceivably have a number and a color on one of its sides.

Thus, it is entirely possible (given the exact wording of the problem) that the "5" card, which is white on the front (in addition to the "5") has a flipside background color that is, say, yellow (thus satisfying the stipulation that it has at a minimum a color on the other side) but also superimposed on the yellow background a number "6."

Such a scenario is not forbidden or impossible according to the wording of the problem.

Thus, in this example, one would need to turn over the "5" card as well, to ensure that it doesn't have an even number on its flipside, which would then require for the background behind the visible "5" on the frontside to be blue, for the proposition to be true.

Interestingly, one still does not need to turn over the blue card, because whatever is on the reverse is "taken care of" by its visible blueness, and the absence of any number on the front side means the flipside does not need to be blue.

So the actual, correct answer is that one needs to turn over

5
8
green


to verify that the statement is true!

Tragically, my debunking invalidates a 50-year-long experiment!!!

Posted by: zombie at January 06, 2016 02:51 AM (jBuUi)

371 Just for the record, I logged into Discus under the anonymous shared group-account "aperson" and reposted my debunking comment on the "Nautilus" site, in the hopes that the original author sees it.

Posted by: zombie at January 06, 2016 03:05 AM (jBuUi)

372 Did I kill the thread somehow, or was it already dead?

Posted by: zombie at January 06, 2016 03:27 AM (jBuUi)

373 372
Did I kill the thread somehow, or was it already dead?

Posted by: zombie at January 06, 2016 03:27 AM (jBuUi)


It was limping....and, on the savannah, that is enough....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 03:32 AM (EzgxV)

374 It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: McCoy, Leonard H. at January 06, 2016 03:35 AM (FKHWN)

375 No, you killed it. SHAME!

Posted by: weirddave at January 06, 2016 03:35 AM (N8hFs)

376 On a totally random side-note.....TJ's has Amontillado. It's an uncommon fortified wine similar to sherry. In honor of Poe's birthday on January 19th, I intend to have a glass.




Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 03:41 AM (EzgxV)

377 375
No, you killed it. SHAME!


Posted by: weirddave at January 06, 2016 03:35 AM (N8hFs)


At least the Zombster's stuff didn't just up-and-disappear.

*still annoyed by that*

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2016 03:44 AM (EzgxV)

378 The Amontillido...It's a trap.

Posted by: Adm. Ackbar Fortunato at January 06, 2016 03:58 AM (FKHWN)

379 *bells jingling*

Posted by: Fortunato holidays at January 06, 2016 04:04 AM (EzgxV)

380 I am the firsht African American actor to play Bond.

Posted by: Shaun Connery at January 06, 2016 04:31 AM (AVPWa)

381 The shigar is good. The penish is evil.

Posted by: DeShaun Connery at January 06, 2016 04:32 AM (AVPWa)

382 Tonight's post brought to you by Connery
You could have used a picture of him as Zed you know
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2016 04:35 AM (KtJ+S)

383 Morning Skip.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at January 06, 2016 04:41 AM (FKHWN)

384 If Hillary told me the even cards were blue, I wouldn't have to turn over any, because as a perfect being, she is incapable of telling a lie or making a mistake.

Posted by: liberal woman at January 06, 2016 04:42 AM (AVPWa)

385 Instead of fiddling while Rome burns, I'd rather sniff midget butt while America burns.

Posted by: Emperor Nero at January 06, 2016 04:47 AM (AVPWa)

386 Are the contrapositives free?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 06, 2016 04:54 AM (AVPWa)

387 Don't know about that but this cigar is free IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 06, 2016 04:59 AM (FKHWN)

388 Just don't tell the Hilldawg.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 06, 2016 05:00 AM (FKHWN)

389 "Just don't tell the Hilldawg."

She already knows. She doesn't care. She would cut your Heart out and eat it on live tv is she thought that would get her elected POTUS.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 06, 2016 05:31 AM (WVsWD)

390 More than 40% still live with their parents in Portugal. Man I am so f***ing embarrased.

Posted by: CC at January 06, 2016 05:34 AM (G0zje)

391 >>> "Actually, it's a good thing Tesla didn't sell too many units because they still lose $4,000 on every car."


Yeah, but they make it up in volume.

Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:40 AM (fCWi3)

392 Jeez, guys, it's the 8 and the green.

It doesn't matter if odd cards are also blue.

Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:44 AM (fCWi3)

393 If you have a sock drawer filled with 10 black socks and 10 white socks, but the lights are off and you can't see the colors, what is the least number of socks you need to remove to know you have a matched pair?

Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:47 AM (fCWi3)

394 Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:47 AM

100% certainty?

11

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2016 05:50 AM (Zu3d9)

395 393
If you have a sock drawer filled with 10 black socks and 10 white socks,
but the lights are off and you can't see the colors, what is the least
number of socks you need to remove to know you have a matched pair?

Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:47 AM (fCWi3)


You can't have any guarantee of a matched pair in that situation. The outcome is random.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 06, 2016 05:50 AM (J+mig)

396 Or 3

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2016 05:52 AM (Zu3d9)

397 Unless the blue card was flipped first...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2016 05:52 AM (Zu3d9)

398 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 06, 2016 05:50 AM (J+mig)

Yes....it is random. But it's the same as a coin-flip experiment.

1-black
2-white
3-white.....you get a pair.
3-black.....you get a pair.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2016 05:57 AM (Zu3d9)

399 Three. With two, you might get a mismatched pair. But with three, you will get either:

A. three blacks,
B. three whites,
C. two blacks and a white, or
D. two whites and a black.

No other results are possible.

Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:57 AM (fCWi3)

400 Night... or moring, all.

Here is "Once more 'Round the sun" by Mastadon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI81VTGTdaU

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2016 06:04 AM (vBeA5)

401 Ugh, Wednesday already...

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2016 06:07 AM (vBeA5)

402 @393

How many Morons does it take to change a light bulb?

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:17 AM (AfsKp)

403 Was having a chat with a friend, and we got to discussing things. The Nickelback or Phil Collins effect, Hipsterism, and the "wrongfun" thing in science fiction.

In short, I'm now thinking that all of these phenomena are the product of a single mentality. In every case, there's a common element. People seek to assert an elite status by hating whatever is popular and telling others that they're wrong.

Going further, I think a lot of Leftist thought derives from the same source, looking at the received wisdom of past generations and common sense with the same mentality, and trying to be thought of as superior to the us unwashed peasants who believe as the majority do.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 06, 2016 06:20 AM (J+mig)

404 Wow, There was a time when I thought that Midget Porn was a myth.

And....
Good Morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 06, 2016 06:21 AM (ptqRm)

405

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 06, 2016 06:21 AM (HSmrB)

406 How many Morons does it take to change a light bulb?

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:17 AM (AfsKp)


An incandescent light bulb or a CFL light bulb?

Posted by: RickZ at January 06, 2016 06:24 AM (FRDDf)

407 >>> An incandescent light bulb or a CFL light bulb?

Delivered by an African swallow.

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:25 AM (AfsKp)

408 How many Morons does it take to change a light bulb?

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:17 AM (AfsKp)


Same answer as Irish. One to hold the bulb, a whole bunch to drink till the room spins.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 06, 2016 06:25 AM (J+mig)

409 Jeez, guys, it's the 8 and the green.

It doesn't matter if odd cards are also blue.
Posted by: Phinn at January 06, 2016 05:44 AM (fCWi3)

I hate when someone declares that a problem like this shows how stupid/illogical people are. It does no such thing. These problems are abstract and most people don't flip into abstract thinking mode without warming up.

I got the problem wrong because I got stuck on thinking that even and blue had to always be paired. Now when I looked at if from a programming standpoint, it made sense.

Posted by: WOPR at January 06, 2016 06:27 AM (LTDSy)

410 In short, I'm now thinking that all of these phenomena are the product of a single mentality. In every case, there's a common element. People seek to assert an elite status by hating whatever is popular and telling others that they're wrong.

Going further, I think a lot of Leftist thought derives from the same source, looking at the received wisdom of past generations and common sense with the same mentality, and trying to be thought of as superior to the us unwashed peasants who believe as the majority do.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 06, 2016 06:20 AM (J+mig)


Shorter version: The Left is power hungry. And they are always right, --er correct.

What you described is the historical revisionism exhibited by so many 'know-nothing' lefties.

"if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

Posted by: RickZ at January 06, 2016 06:28 AM (FRDDf)

411 403:People seek to assert an elite status by hating whatever is popular and telling others that they're wrong.


So its ok then too admit listening to No Jacket Required by Phil Collins and liking it?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2016 06:31 AM (Bhf1u)

412 There was a POW camp in Stark, NH. I ran into a German tourist at a campground who mentioned going to the roadside memorial.

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:32 AM (AfsKp)

413 I for one wish that picture of Mama June was below the break. Actually, I wish it was on another site entirely. That is one fugly pairing.

Posted by: MTF at January 06, 2016 06:33 AM (RaxiV)

414 Tell your friend to be discrete, like picking 'his' nose.

Do it in private and wash your hands thoroughly.

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2016 06:34 AM (AfsKp)

415 >>>>There was a POW camp in Stark, NH. I ran into a German tourist at a campground who mentioned going to the roadside memorial.
.
.
.There was a big one in Lexington, KY. All we have found from it is a cemetery with four graves. We at the VFW were trying to get it cleaned up but met with some resistance as it is on private property.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 06, 2016 06:35 AM (iONHu)

416 How to Be a Lawyer Without Going to Law School

Calvin Coolidge was a regarded working lawyer, who apprenticed rather than go to law school.
Of course, you can't do that in MA anymore.

Posted by: BuddyPC at January 06, 2016 06:35 AM (mIQJh)

417 I have no idea who Mama June is and did not click on the link to find out. With some things, ignorance really is bliss.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2016 06:36 AM (Bhf1u)

418

Mama June?

Yeah,, I'd hit it....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 06, 2016 06:37 AM (HSmrB)

419 391 >>> "Actually, it's a good thing Tesla didn't sell too many units because they still lose $4,000 on every car."


Yeah, but they make it up in volume.
__________________

No, they make it up in government grants and subsidies.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 06, 2016 06:41 AM (a31sM)

420 417 Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2016 06:36 AM (Bhf1u)

Mama June is a modern Steppen Fetchit that Whore E Wood finds acceptable.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 06, 2016 06:42 AM (g8Hfr)

421 Morning all.

I'm only halfway through BC and Alex's latest podcast and it's already reached peak F-bomb saturation for this quarter. Listen if only for the phrase "dick-sucking SuperPac". Epic rants on crossing the Rubiocon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 06, 2016 06:42 AM (6bMel)

422 Le NOOD arriving...

Track Two.

Stand clear, please

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 06, 2016 06:45 AM (ptqRm)

423 I suspect that a lot of the "illogical" answers to the card puzzles are due to simply reading the question too quickly...

Posted by: DRH at January 06, 2016 09:05 AM (AUto9)

424 @409
Did anybody declare in the puzzle that all cards had a numeral on one side and a color on the other?
I don't think so, and if not then the answer is "the 8, the green and the 5" since the 5 may have an even number on the other side!

For the cognoscenti, this is reminiscent of the `engineer, physicist and mathematician on train to Scotland' joke.

Posted by: Clovis Sangrail at January 06, 2016 11:23 AM (V0uJf)

425 Oh look, they came up with a new graphic complaining about Federal "ownership" of the West.

The old graphic tried to show all the plots of land "owned" by the Federal government, and it was too obvious it included all the Indian reservations.

Do you really mean to complain about all the reservations out West?

From Lincoln's Administration to about Coolidge I believe, anybody could have 100 acres of federal land just by using it for five years. I refuse to agitate against a tyrannical regime that tried for three generations to give away their holdings and found no takers.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at January 06, 2016 03:27 PM (4zXgv)

426 So, the only cards that need to be checked are the "8" and the green card.
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Are you kidding?!! It's racist to check green cards!!

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2016 11:53 AM (2mC6G)

427 I hate when someone declares that a problem like this shows how stupid/illogical people are. It does no such thing. These problems are abstract and most people don't flip into abstract thinking mode without warming up.
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I have to agree. In addition, I think there's a difference between "being illogical" and having no training in Logic, particularly, the understanding implication. If you turned over all four (an almost no-cost action) would you really be "illogical"? You might have simply misunderstood implication.

Ultimately, I think this shows the problem with journal-ism. Make complex issues eye-catching and easy to digest so you come away with a satisfying, if false, sense that you understood something. But the end result just lies and exaggeration.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2016 12:09 PM (2mC6G)

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