Morning Thread (1-5-2016)

President pen and phone strikes again.

Posted by: Andy at 06:49 AM




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1 Morning!

Posted by: Molly k. at January 05, 2016 06:50 AM (w/CJV)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, January 05, 2016. On this day in 1949 Harry Truman unveiled his proposed "Fair Deal" Program. It was a 21 point program of almost all new socialist programs similar to FDR's new deal. And among these 21 points was a call for "universal healthcare". IOW, Truman really was a continuation of FDR. I have no idea why so many people think he was a good President. And since the Republicans controlled congress only a few of these things made it through. And BTW, contrary to the now popular AOS meme, he was my first President.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:50 AM (t2KH5)

3 A new Jihadi John has arisen with ISIS. The Brits seem to have a knack for producing these folks.


http://fxn.ws/1ZLmGlz

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:50 AM (t2KH5)

4 The US Pacific fleet has shrunk to dangerous levels thanks to that BS budget "sequester deal" made by Boner several years ago which allowed Obama to continue to throw more money into his socialist programs while cutting military spending to the bone marrow. This has only encouraged countries like China to become more aggressive and it is worrying our allies in the Pacific regions. History has shown every time we cut back like this it leads to a much more expensive and dangerous war. But you can never tell liberals that. I also note something in this article that I knew from past experience, fewer ships mean longer patrol times and lower moral.


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Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

5 The two ranchers in OR involved in the armed standoff have turned themselves in to do their 5 year prison sentences. I consider them to be political prisoners going to the goolag because they refused to bow to Obama's BLM. Under Obama we have become 1950s Russia, the political atmosphere, the economy, and a lawless thug running the show.


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Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

6 Most of the Middle East muzzie nations are not happy with Obama's palling around with Iran.


http://fxn.ws/1R8CPA4

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

7 Three NFL teams are looking to move to L.A. over disputes for new stadiums. Why is it that these millionaire/billionaire owners think that the public should pay for their football stadium for them to continue to rake in the cash? Because there is a history of that? And no, there has never been any reliable proof that these flashy stadiums and football help local economies.


http://fxn.ws/1SwlDUB

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

8 older II's stepdaughter held over cab fare dispute.


New York City police say the stepdaughter of U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch was taken into custody after an argument with an Uber taxi driver over an unpaid fare.


http://fxn.ws/1OJ65Xp

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

9 Obama set to release 17 more terrorists from GITMO.


http://fxn.ws/1mwSuMS

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

10 Get ready for the FDA to call for regulation of sugar based on a new BS "study".


http://fxn.ws/1Z4hmNf

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

11 RIP Robert Stigwood, Bee Gees manager, at 81 from a heart attack.


http://fxn.ws/1Z2AUMB

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

12 Evil vandals are attacking Mosques with bacon. When these vandals start cutting off muzzie's heads I will say we may have an issue.


http://fxn.ws/1INnJ0d

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

13 The truth will out, the Chinese slowdown at best is only part of the cause of the stock market drop yesterday. And I repeat, the stock market is really, at best, a poor reflection of the economy. In my opinion it is the smoke from the fire, not the fire.


http://fxn.ws/1VCF3qq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)

14 Some of the details of Obama's illegal pen and phone law on Gun Control are leaking out. One of these is a call for doctors to report "mentally ill" patients to the FBI. Under the real law these kind of actions require a court order as do all other actions to curb citizen's constitutional rights. Does this sound familiar? 1950s era Russia liked to declare citizens mentally ill as an excuse for curbing their rights. I have no problem with withholding guns from crazies as that should be done. I do have a problem with doing that based on a low level bureaucrat opinion without involving the courts.


http://politi.co/1Z3xkqM

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)

15 So what has been the impact of Obama's gun control policies via pen and phone (remember he has already jacked it up once before). No reduction in gun crime, but a whole lot of new guns sales. The US set a new all time record for gun sales in 2015.


http://bit.ly/1PcBodU

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)

16
And here is what I really expected from this new "low volume" seller BS.


The Obama administration announced during a conference call with reporters Monday evening that the president's upcoming executive order may require somebody selling even a single firearm to obtain a Federal Firearms License.


http://bit.ly/1UsaGlf

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:53 AM (t2KH5)

17 And BB has even more on this.


http://bit.ly/1TBsOcr

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:54 AM (t2KH5)

18 Tod Starnes on Obama's illegal gun control.


http://fxn.ws/1PboEEe

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:54 AM (t2KH5)

19 Vandals spray paint and topple headstones of confederate veterans at a cemetery in Raleigh, NC. What would be the reaction of the MFM if a group from the Sons of Confederate Veterans went in at midnight and trashed MLK's grave?


http://bit.ly/1INNgGy

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:54 AM (t2KH5)

20 Obama has shown them the way. Illegals are using fake Puerto Rican birth certificates to get passports and licenses.


http://bit.ly/1OwmGC6

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:54 AM (t2KH5)

21 More fallout from Scankles' e-mails. They show she actually met with Sydney Blumenthal at the State Department despite claims they had no real working relationship.


http://bit.ly/1kGD1rR

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:54 AM (t2KH5)

22 So what has been the impact of Merkel's letting in hundreds of thousands of muzzie migrants? Over a thousand of them gathered on New Years Eve at a train station to riot, rape, and molest German women. Sweden could have warned her about this.


http://bit.ly/1Rm7Oa9

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:55 AM (t2KH5)

23 Cable of perpetually offended women want to ban the word "foreign". Perhaps these are the real candidates for a court to revoke their second amendment rights due to insanity.


http://bit.ly/1O2aDLn

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:55 AM (t2KH5)

24 Guess I didn't get up at this hour in vain. Thanks, Andy.

Morning, Glories!

Posted by: mindful webworker - okay, then at January 05, 2016 06:55 AM (Ma5u/)

25 Remember that fugly Chicago Teacher's Union President who got loud and cranky over teacher benefits (which among other union deals are bankrupting Chicago)? Well here is what you got people of Chicago.


http://bit.ly/1n1r7dX

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:55 AM (t2KH5)

26 Obama says his pen and phone lawmaking doesn't violate the second amendment. Just another Obama lie.


http://bit.ly/1JUGda0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:55 AM (t2KH5)

27 Michigan muzzie woman says it is OK to stab Jews. Yeah Obama, let's let in another million of these Neanderthal assholes.


http://bit.ly/22Iidm0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:56 AM (t2KH5)

28 BLM activist and dubious reverend has been arrested for theft.


http://bit.ly/1INwAPw

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:56 AM (t2KH5)

29 Obama will officially announce his latest illegal pen and phone law today some time around 11:40 a.m. plus allowing for being his usual hour late BS. You can bet your ass it will be filled with me, mine, and other such BS platitudes and he will have zero details about what his new law will be.


http://bit.ly/1mwVmcG

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:56 AM (t2KH5)

30 Winston Salem police officer shot in a routine traffic stop and dragged ╝ mile. Suspect was charged with attempted murder and possession of a gun by a convicted felon. More common sense gun control at work.


http://bit.ly/1Z2dd78

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:56 AM (t2KH5)

31 Oh, and the perp was yet another Obama son look-alike.


http://bit.ly/22Ik4at

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:57 AM (t2KH5)

32 Obamanite thugs warn schools against discrimination of new muzzies that he is letting in. All based on an unsupported allegation from the terrorist support group CAIR. So schools can stand by for some more costly litigation from the crime syndicate known as EEOC. Of course most of the schools will simply cave and students will suffer. But impeachment is off the table.


http://bit.ly/1O2dSTc

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:57 AM (t2KH5)

33 Another BS item from Obama's latest illegal executive order is the use of dumb guns that will not work.


http://bit.ly/1R8FSbh

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:57 AM (t2KH5)

34 Pete Hoesktra: NSA Spying on Congress Requires Suspending State of the Union Invite

He wants congress to NOT invite Obama to congress to give the State of the Union address. Its all a pack of lies in a canned political speech anyway.


http://bit.ly/1TBtkXY

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:57 AM (t2KH5)

35 Ted Cruz says RINO Rubio has the same foreign policy as Obama and Scankles.


http://bit.ly/1JUIkuk

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:58 AM (t2KH5)

36 Kansas Republican Tim Huelskamp is back in the graces of the leadership after Boner has been kicked to the curb. He was kicked off the agriculture committee by Boner for voting against the BS budget sellout.


http://dailysign.al/1R8Grlt

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:58 AM (t2KH5)

37 Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1O2fZ9r

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:58 AM (t2KH5)

38 BD's take on the market sell-off yesterday.


http://bit.ly/1OID8Bf

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:58 AM (t2KH5)

39 >>Evil vandals are attacking Mosques with bacon. When these vandals start cutting off muzzie's heads I will say we may have an issue.


My money is on fake hate crime. It's a well-worn path that's likely being coordinated by CAIR, such as the diet coke -requesting lady flyer and the mosque member recently caught setting fire to his own mosque.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (NOIQH)

40 ould you pay hundreds of dollars for a meal in a rat-infested restaurant? If the answer is no then avoid Bill DeCommio's NYC.


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Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

41 31-You meant. of course, he was a black man because he doesn't actually look anything like Obama

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (M+RRn)

42 That BS Consumer Financial Protection Bureau established under the Piss Dodd commission on the housing collapse has become yet another corrupt EEOC and is now shaking down auto loan lenders. Another news item you will never see on the MFM.


http://bit.ly/1RdSVsr

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

43 The Daily Deals


http://amzn.to/1JUJE0u


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

44 Vic: I have no idea why so many people think he [Truman] was a good President.

A) Dropped the bombs on Japan.

2) He wasn't FDR?

That's all I've got.

...he was my first President....

Mine, too, for a couple of months. Grew up with Ike, though, of course, which has shaped my life. My kids' equivalent was... BJ Clinton. Sad, that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - okay, then at January 05, 2016 07:00 AM (Ma5u/)

45 >> Pete Hoesktra: NSA Spying on Congress Requires Suspending State of the Union Invite

LOL! Considering the WH is already tweeting that smug celebrity-style pic of Obama adjusting his tux announcing his last SOTU!! and dis-invitation would really chap his a$$.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:02 AM (NOIQH)

46 A 21-year-old man who was killedon a Safe Passage route on the first day
back to school for Chicago Public Schools students was one of six people
shot Monday. But, But, its a safe zone......

Posted by: Colin at January 05, 2016 07:03 AM (T3Tpd)

47
In Failure Theater news:

House Republicans will begin the 2016 legislative session with another vote Wednesday attacking the Affordable Care Act and defunding Planned Parenthood. Using the budget reconciliation process allowed the Senate to consider the measure without the threat of a filibuster. Obama has said he will veto the measure, and congressional Democrats have the votes to sustain it.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said the vote, which is expected to pass with mainly Republican support, will "immediately set a tone" about the path Republicans plan to set for the country.

Rollcall

So, consider that tone totes set.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:03 AM (kdS6q)

48 Good work Vic. You've been busy this morning.

Posted by: Golfman at January 05, 2016 07:03 AM (48QDY)

49
The Trump collapse continues:

Donald Trump leads his closest rivals by double digits in an NBC News/Survey Monkey poll released Tuesday. Trump is supported by 35 percent of Republican and GOP-leaning registered voters in the online survey, with Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Marco Rubio (Fla.) at 18 and 13 percent, respectively.

All other candidates poll in single digits, with retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 9 percent, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 6 percent, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 4 percent and businesswoman Carly Fiorina at 3 percent.

The Hill

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:04 AM (kdS6q)

50
Just got done reading the EO signed by Obama. It changes absolutely
nothing, zero, zilch, zip, nada about gun laws. Idiot, but his base will
eat it up. obama is the only one who had the courage to take on the
evil NRA, etc.

It is up at White House.gov.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:04 AM (iONHu)

51 Vic: The two ranchers in OR involved in the armed standoff... I consider them to be political prisoners...

Aside from the earlier article summarizing the situation, Sundance at Cons. Treehouse has added an article about "The U.S. Attorney At The Heart of The Hammond Family Problem":

The media are focused on the "Bundy Militia" angle to the standoff in Burns Oregon... However, a little research ... into the original legal battle reveals a rather startling update. ...

http://bit.ly/1mylhAO

Posted by: mindful webworker - of course you know, this means... at January 05, 2016 07:05 AM (Ma5u/)

52
In the Culture Wars:

With her new fiancee at her side, former state Rep. Jackie Biskupski was sworn in as Salt Lake City's first openly LGBT mayor. Meanwhile, with his husband at his side, Utah same-sex marriage plaintiff Derek Kitchen was sworn as the city's second sitting gay council member.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:05 AM (kdS6q)

53 41
31-You meant. of course, he was a black man because he doesn't actually look anything like Obama

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 06:59 AM (M+RRn)

That was a take off on a prior statement by Obama about people looking like his son if he had one.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:05 AM (t2KH5)

54 The only thing worse than being unable to sleep?

Subjecting myself to Morning Joe.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 05, 2016 07:07 AM (PJFUH)

55 44 Posted by: mindful webworker - okay, then at January 05, 2016 07:00 AM (Ma5u/)



Well they were already set to drop the bombs on Japan before he got there. As for not being FDR that "fair deal" shit says he may as well have been FDR. And if he had a Demoncrap congress the way FDR had he would have got it. And we would still be in Great Depression I.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:08 AM (t2KH5)

56 RIP Robert Stigwood, Bee Gees manager...

Was it his idea for them to morph from one of the odder folkie vocal groups to disco?

I know they profited, good for them, but... weeeird transformation. I have all their pre-disco LPs. Somewhere in the catacombs.

Posted by: mindful webworker - oohhhh desssaaa at January 05, 2016 07:08 AM (Ma5u/)

57
Also in the Culture Wars, You want edgy? I got your edgy right here:

Chloe Angyal*

Didn't read any books by men in 2015, "Between the World and Me" notwithstanding. Not reading any books by white people in 2016.

*Senior Front Page Editor at @HuffingtonPost. Formerly of @Feministing. I've got a PhD in pop culture.



Take THAT Dad!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:08 AM (kdS6q)

58 Obama set to release 17 more terrorists from GITMO. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM

I can only conclude that the countries taking these prisoners are a) terrorist-enabling America-haters or b) are getting some kind of spiff from Choom Boy for parking them on their land. Or both.

Congress, in the meantime, will continue to do what it does best: nothing.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:08 AM (mIvL9)

59 @19. It's bad juju to mess with someone's grave. I don't care who they are. Some things you leave alone.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 07:09 AM (HSAmh)

60 A lot of stuff, Vic. Thanks for the round-up.

Posted by: Gem at January 05, 2016 07:09 AM (c+gwp)

61 In addition to the new guidance on who must obtain a firearms license, Valerie Jarrett announced that the president would require the Social Security Administration to begin the rule-making process for prohibiting certain Social Security recipients from legally obtaining guns, a move that could bar millions from legally owning firearms.


Grannie, get yur gun.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 07:10 AM (fbovC)

62 House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said the vote, which is expected to pass with mainly Republican support, will "immediately set a tone" about the path Republicans plan to set for the country.
_____________________

Yeah, and what a great tone: we Republicans are not actually going to accomplish anything useful, and we're certainly not going to rein in any of Obama's illegal excesses, but we are going to spend a lot of time engaged in pointless theatrics.

That "tone" has a lousy beat and you can't dance to it. Also, it's the same tired tone we've seen time and time again from these losers. I'd rate it a zero.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:11 AM (a31sM)

63 49 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:04 AM (kdS6q)


Looks like a typical NBC poll that does their damnedest to help their preference. In the last national poll Jebbie the Hutt was polling below 1% if I am not mistaken.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:11 AM (t2KH5)

64 Good Morning,
I always wake up cold & turn up heat. It takes almost an hour. It's 8 degrees here & I didn't hear heat coming up. I looked at indoor temp & its 52! I had to go to basement to reset it.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:11 AM (sj3Ax)

65 I'd like order a Chipotle carnitas and black bean burrito split open with two poached eggs and hollandaise for breakfast this morning, if you please.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 05, 2016 07:12 AM (PJFUH)

66 50


Just got done reading the EO signed by Obama. It changes absolutely

nothing, zero, zilch, zip, nada about gun laws. Idiot, but his base will

eat it up. obama is the only one who had the courage to take on the

evil NRA, etc.

It is up at White House.gov.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:04 AM (iONHu)

If it requires an FFL for gun trades between two individuals as that phone call above story says it changes a LOT.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:13 AM (t2KH5)

67 Molly K,
Did you ever get in touch with OG Celtic American?
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:13 AM (sj3Ax)

68 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:04 AM

An NBC poll, huh? They must be lovin' it, as their "news" coverage of politics in full-on rubbing talcum powder on Shrillery and hating Trump. Teh Donald couldn't get a positive word from Lester Dolt if he cured cancer, while Ma Clinton just keeps on getting stronger and braver.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:13 AM (mIvL9)

69 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:05 AM (kdS6q)

Well, as long as they're not advocating pastors being required to submit sermons for approval-as in Houston-or suing bakeries out of business or saying if you were against unisex bathrooms you were a transgender bigot, what the problem? They run for office People hopefully look at their POV and vote for them or not based on them, not on their sexual orientation. There are quite a few people who post on "Gay Patriot" who if they ran for office I probably wouldn't have a problem voting for.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:13 AM (M+RRn)

70 51 Posted by: mindful webworker - of course you know, this means... at January 05, 2016 07:05 AM (Ma5u/)


Just another wing of the Obama crime syndicate.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:15 AM (t2KH5)

71
In Praise of Twitter's New "Hate Speech" Policy
By: Leon "Snapping Turtle" Wolf

I'm definitely aware of the possibility that these new rules might be abused disproportionately against conservatives. For my money, the risk is worth the reward.

www.redstate.com/2016/01/03/praise-twitters-new-hate-speech-policy/

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:16 AM (kdS6q)

72 >>>>If it requires an FFL for gun trades between two individuals as that phone call above story says it changes a LOT.
.
.
.It does not require a background check for gun trades between two individuals. I would recommend reading the release at White House.gov. The stories floating around the internet are almost all pure speculation from before they released the final document last night.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:17 AM (iONHu)

73 Vic -- Truman? HAH! I was born during FDR's third term. Now get off my lawn!

Posted by: Empire1 at January 05, 2016 07:17 AM (qtC4D)

74 59
@19. It's bad juju to mess with someone's grave. I don't care who they are. Some things you leave alone.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 07:09 AM (HSAmh)

IIANM that is a felony in most States in the South.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

75 >>Jarrett announced that the president would require the Social Security Administration to begin the rule-making process for prohibiting certain Social Security recipients from legally obtaining guns,

Uh, they think they can just make up rules for Social Security that deny a Constitutional right?????

And yet, I bet they attempt to do it via Obamacare next.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:17 AM (NOIQH)

76 In fact, one of the guys who runs the Gay Patriot (home for conservative/libertarian gays) was at some point running for political office-or thinking about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:18 AM (M+RRn)

77 6 Most of the Middle East muzzie nations are not happy with Obama's palling around with Iran.

Instead of "palling around," think: Val Jar retirement program. If there was anyway to keep an eye on that scrunt's finances after her cadre leaves office, there would be a path of millions leading right back to Iranian mullahs.

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 05, 2016 07:19 AM (5buP8)

78 That's it for today folks.

And that was a lot, too. Thanks, Vic.

Good morning, Molly, Lizzy, FenelonSpoke, Colin, Laurie David's Cervix, Golfman, The Great White Soctsman, Walter Freeman, Mr Scribbler, Case, Gem, free range jihadist, TrivialPursuer, and anyone after that I missed.

Whew! I don't think I'll try that again...!

Posted by: mindful webworker - ev'rybody dance now at January 05, 2016 07:20 AM (Ma5u/)

79 72 .It does not require a background check for gun
trades between two individuals. I would recommend reading the release at
White House.gov. The stories floating around the internet are almost
all pure speculation from before they released the final document last
night.


Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:17 AM (iONHu)


I recommend you read that WH brief to reporters I linked above.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:20 AM (t2KH5)

80 2 ... Hey Vic, Apparently I came along a year or so after you. I do remember watching President Eisenhower playing golf when visiting my home town. It's not that we are ancient but I am surprised how young some of the Horde are. Native talent curmudgeons?

Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2016 07:21 AM (FvdPb)

81 I read and heard some commentary the Obama EO on gun control is no big deal and has no major changes, mostly red meat for his cultist. That may be true but this is a foot in the door, incremental approach. See what the reaction is, fight off any lawsuits, let the public accustomed to this and propose something bigger in a few months. Remember, the first EO on immigration were much smaller and hardly noticeable and applied to relatively smaller groups of illegals. There was already a lot of chaos and non-enforcement before Obama but his limited EO mushroomed into the complete breakdown and open borders we have today, and much of the public accepts that as normal, even good. It would be naive to think Obama intends to stop with this limited gun control rules.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 07:21 AM (1BQGO)

82 I had to go to basement to reset it.Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:11 AM


What kind of fuel do you use? If oil, you might be nearly out.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 07:22 AM (fbovC)

83 And no, there has never been any reliable proof that these flashy stadiums and football help local economies.

The Rams were brought to St Louis in the 90's, in what was lampooned as the WORST DEAL IN SPORTS HISTORY. Now the civic leaders, the state of Missouri and apparently, the NFL want to build a new stadium in downtown St Louis. To replace the shitty barn/dome that the Rams (hopefully) used to play in. All these contortions for 8 home games per year. Maths, how does it work?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:23 AM (5buP8)

84 Vic: Well they were already set to drop the bombs on Japan before he got there....

Yeah, I thought to say, should have said, he didn't stop them from dropping the bombs. So, his main accomplishment was... to not get in the way. :/

Posted by: mindful webworker - ev'rybody dance now at January 05, 2016 07:24 AM (Ma5u/)

85 81 Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 07:21 AM (1BQGO)


We have nothing written in stone yet but the WH conference call to reporters did in fact say that the new order would allow them to require an FFL for anyone who sold one gun.

I guess we will find out more when the official version is released.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:24 AM (t2KH5)

86 Suppose to rain today - hard. But I will believe it when I see it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 07:25 AM (iQIUe)

87 Oil Heat & burner is at least 55 years old, Free Range Jihadist.

There's oil, it's just that some times I have to reset it. I can't afford to replace entire system.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:25 AM (sj3Ax)

88 I remember Vic wrapped up in swaddling clothes. He was cute once.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 05, 2016 07:25 AM (Y4gyP)

89 It is a brisk 24.8F here with my camellias in full bloom. More of that tomorrow as well. I suspect I will lose some of those.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:26 AM (t2KH5)

90 I guess we will find out more when the official version is released. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:24 AM

We still won't know anything until we see how the Lynch Mob and all the alphabet agencies "enforce" it.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:27 AM (mIvL9)

91 87 There's oil, it's just that some times I have to reset it. I can't afford to replace entire system.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:25 AM (sj3Ax)

Another problem that would have been eliminated if you had been able to move to Texas.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:27 AM (t2KH5)

92 >>>I recommend you read that WH brief to reporters I linked above.
.
.
.I read that article form the Free Beacon you linked to. The Official press release in on the White House site and it does not contain any requirements for individuals to conduct background checks.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:27 AM (iONHu)

93
I would recommend reading the release at White House.gov. The stories floating around the internet are almost all pure speculation from before they released the final document last night.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman



That isn't a "final document", it's a press release. The EOs and actually rules and regs from the Imperial Bureaucracy are yet to come.

http://tinyurl.com/j767ler

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:28 AM (kdS6q)

94 92 I read that article form the Free Beacon you linked
to. The Official press release in on the White House site and it does
not contain any requirements for individuals to conduct background
checks.


Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:27 AM (iONHu)


And you think the biggest liars in the world are a more believable source than the Free Beacon.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:28 AM (t2KH5)

95 By the pen or by the phone...


By the pen or by the sword...


Ummm.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 05, 2016 07:29 AM (8PbKi)

96 Posted by: mindful webworker - ev'rybody dance now at January 05, 2016 07:20 AM (Ma5u/)
_______________

Good morning to you as well.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:29 AM (a31sM)

97 Trump had third event here in Massachusetts last night. Robert Costa from WaPo reported thousands attended.


Local paper reported protestors planned to protest but didn't update after yesterday morning.
I have local news on now.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:30 AM (sj3Ax)

98 Prayer request

My son is driving me crazy every day complaining about what he calls "remedial Chemistry". I think he was probably placed in too low of a class based on the recommendation of his former Physics teacher who has subsequently fired. I don't know if anyone else here has had a teen complain every single day for four months about the same thing but it is very aggravating. I either need more patience or we need to figure out a way to get him into another class-which i don't think is going to happen at this point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:31 AM (M+RRn)

99 Hello to Carol, since I missed you in the earlier greeting.

* hands Carol a warm quilt *

23° here this morning, but going to rise to a cozy... 44° today. But, 52° on Thursday... they're saying.

Posted by: mindful webworker - and a warm hug at January 05, 2016 07:32 AM (Ma5u/)

100 Morning to all. History will remember Obama as the First Black President, not the Worst President. Affirmative Action at its best.

Posted by: Craptain Kirk at January 05, 2016 07:32 AM (QnQ+g)

101 Per this blogpost linked by Instapundit, the gun EO is a vague restatement of an equally vague rule, so it's purpose is to:

A. Make Obama look like he's doing something

B. Have an additional tool to harass gun sellers since no one really can determine if they're a "dealer" thanks to the (intentionally?) vague definition.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2016/01/04/attorney-general-loretta-lynch-clarifies-ffl-rule/

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:33 AM (NOIQH)

102 I have local news on now.
Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:30 AM


Last night, Lester Dolt showed "protesters" at Teh Donald's rally. They numbered in the high single digits, and it looked to me as if some of their signs were printed, not homemade. Makes you wonder who paid for the signs, and maybe for the "protesters."

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:33 AM (mIvL9)

103 Now they're showing Trump clip & now it's over. More time to Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:33 AM (sj3Ax)

104 I'm working on a deal to get another rifle and another revolver through a private transaction.

I really hope other gun owners take steps to get at least some guns that are unknown to the authorities.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 07:34 AM (u5gzz)

105 Posted by: Craptain Kirk at January 05, 2016 07:32 AM (QnQ+g)

He may be remembered as both. It depends on what happens during the next year of his term and who becomes President next..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:34 AM (M+RRn)

106 There's oil, it's just that some times I have to reset it. I can't afford to replace entire system.Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:25 AM

Okay. Take a look at your fuel gauge, just to be sure.

In a system that old there's a sight guage to detect flame or no flame. They tend to get a little sooty over time and don't always 'see' that the oil is flaming. So it stops the flow of oil unless reset. Service call unless you know someone handy to 'pop the top' and wipe the glass clean. With power turned off of course. The transformers in those systems are like little tasers. Trust me on that.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 07:34 AM (fbovC)

107
Ted Cruz has surged to a statistical tie with Donald Trump among Republicans in California, while Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina have tumbled in this late-voting state, according to a new poll.

In the Field Poll, released Tuesday, Cruz is the first choice of 25 percent of likely Republican voters in California. Trump stands at 23 percent, while Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is running third at 13 percent.

http://tinyurl.com/j8rko7s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:34 AM (kdS6q)

108 98 I either need more patience or we need to figure out
a way to get him into another class-which i don't think is going to
happen at this point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:31 AM (M+RRn)

Depends on how big the school is and if they have another similar class. Public schools have become a den of mediocrity in the past 50 years and about the only thing you can do is pull them out and put them in a private school. But that has become VERY expensive and you are in effect paying for two school systems.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)

109 Not first, but 100th. Not bad for me

Posted by: Craptain Kirk at January 05, 2016 07:35 AM (QnQ+g)

110 I would recommend reading the release at White House.gov. The stories
floating around the internet are almost all pure speculation from before
they released the final document last night.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman


Great White Soctsman(?), this is from the fact sheet:

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is making
clear that it doesn't matter where you conduct your business - from a
store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you're in the business of
selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks."

That seems fairly clear to me that they want everyone who is selling a gun to conduct background checks, regardless of volume

Posted by: chemjeff at January 05, 2016 07:36 AM (uZNvH)

111 >>>>And you think the biggest liars in the world are a more believable source than the Free Beacon.
.
.
.Vic there is no need to be mean. I was just pointing out the press release the Feds put out last night and that all of those articles were written well before that, nothing more.

If you think I am defending the Administration you are dead wrong.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:37 AM (iONHu)

112 Ted Cruz has surged to a statistical tie with Donald
Trump among Republicans in California, while Ben Carson and Carly
Fiorina have tumbled in this late-voting state, according to a new poll. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 07:34 AM


In California, the name "Cruz" is a big draw. Hell, the guy who mows your lawn or washes your car is probably named "Cruz."

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:37 AM (mIvL9)

113 >>Now they're showing Trump clip & now it's over. More time to Bill Clinton.

Local news?
I was watching Morning Joe, and they showed a clip of Bill and it looks like the energy is just not there. I don't underestimate Bill's ability to charm an audience, but he was just not bringing it. I bet he is really sick of the old WH/sex scandal stuff after 15 years of living the life of a wealthy, single, international power-player while Hillary grabbed most of the media spotlight back in DC.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:37 AM (NOIQH)

114 Free range jihadist,
I have it serviced every year & my older brother heard my heat on around 3 am. It's still taking time to come up. It's coming up, I almost burned finger on radiator.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:38 AM (sj3Ax)

115 Hi Carol! how are you doing tonite?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 05, 2016 07:38 AM (uZNvH)

116 er, this morning?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 05, 2016 07:38 AM (uZNvH)

117 Good morning all.

From this date in 1944


Jan 5, 1944 - The EZ Dog Journals
Cool and cloudy. Attack on all fronts bogged down by dug-in and fortified resistance. Gerry artillery got our range for the first time. Dropped over 40 rounds 170 mm in battery area. Two direct hits on C.P. which stood up fairly well. Officers mess tent cut up. Fortunately only two men hurt, one from our battery, neither seriously. Far too close for comfort.
We fired more than 9500 rds from 1800 to 1800.




This one pretty much speaks for itself.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 05, 2016 07:39 AM (NeFrd)

118 "I also note something in this article that I knew from past experience, fewer ships mean longer patrol times and lower moral."

These op tempos also mean that the ships are going to have less time in port for repair and refit, and they'll wear out faster, and they may not be ready to fight when called upon.

If Congress had any sense regarding matters naval *, they would be paying close attention to INSURV reports. These occasionally now leak into the public domain, and leaked ones make for alarming reading.

USN warships are deploying, including to dangerous hot spots such as the South China Sea and the Persian Gulf, with busted systems. Including busted sensor, defensive, and offensive weapons systems. Nothing to go wrong with that plan **, you can be sure!

* The only prominent figure on the Hill who seems consistently interested in the Navy is John "Old Man Yells At Clouds" McCain. Who is a former naval aviator and who is hence most focused on the air wing and CVN side of the Navy. Which is important, but not the whole picture, and the systems readiness difficulties are the worst in the smaller surface combatants, not on the carriers.

** An inadvertent but revealing pun. The people who are stirring the shit in the South China Sea are the Chinese navy, the PLAN.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 07:39 AM (noWW6)

119 Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2016 07:21 AM (FvdPb)

I have some people in the congregation I serve who in their 70's and 80's and one dear fellow is 92. They all laughed when I said on Sunday (after I commented that i needed to get a larger print Bible because I have trouble reading it, and they said, "you're getting old) you know when you feel old>-"When somebody on the internet says, "I was speaking my first baby words when Reagan was in office"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:39 AM (M+RRn)

120 111 .Vic there is no need to be mean. I was just
pointing out the press release the Feds put out last night and that all
of those articles were written well before that, nothing more.

If you think I am defending the Administration you are dead wrong.


Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:37 AM (iONHu)

Not trying to be mean, simply stating that you can not believe anything the Obama press gang puts out. Both he and they are notorious liars.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:39 AM (t2KH5)

121 Greetings gentlefappers.

We are all gun dealers now.

#freshhell

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 07:40 AM (LUgeY)

122 I'm not a YUGE fan of the NRA. I think they're too often accommodationist in their approach.

But voting is off the table, so I'm looking for other ways to express my views.

I renewed my NRA membership, which lapsed several years ago.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 07:40 AM (u5gzz)

123 Climate chaos resulting from carbon pollution can result in abnormally cold temperatures. Just remember, whatever the weather is:

a) it's a sign of imminent disaster

b) it's caused by carbon pollution

Posted by: Al Gore at January 05, 2016 07:41 AM (7EHW6)

124 New prog memeIve seen on Chipotle food poisoning is that it is corporate sabotage, probably by Monsanto, to destroy the health food industry and force everybody to eat GMO foods. Makes perfect sense to me. And that fact that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back it up makes it all more obvious sinister forces are at work here.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 07:41 AM (1BQGO)

125 FenelonSpoke, no suggestions, but prayers for relief for you. And peace for your son in this regard.



Y'know...

I was raised to think of prayer as something one did for better subjective communion with God and adjustment to God's will, rather than to effect any big changes in the "outside world."

Always seems like people get the answer to prayer and thank God, or don't get the answer they'd hoped for, and, if they're wise, still thank God.* Not a good indicator of whether prayer really had any outside-world effect. Folks will believe what they want.

The Bible Belt community around me of course believed in the power of prayer to induce God to do miracles. Oral Roberts made the lame walk every week on teevee. I never discounted power-miracles, but ... they were always something that "happened to someone else."

Still, I don't think I know anything, much less how the Spirit works in the world, so, I join in prayers-at-a-distance and all that ... can't hurt, right? I rarely ask for them, though, because of aforementioned upbringing. And the long, long list of what I'd ask prayers for....!

* Some idle musing on praying & thankfulness I did a while back: Be Sure to Say Thank You
http://bit.ly/b-sure-2-say-thanks

Posted by: mindful webworker - better living through whining at January 05, 2016 07:42 AM (Ma5u/)

126 Obama says his pen and phone lawmaking doesn't violate the second amendment.

*******

Executive, legislative AND judiciary. Wow!


It's like the Certs presidency. It's three, three, three branches of governmint in one!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 05, 2016 07:42 AM (NeFrd)

127 . I don't know if anyone else here has had a teen complain every single day for four months about the same thing but it is very aggravating.

Prayers up, Fenelon. Cold comfort, but he can pad his GPA w/an A in "remedial" chemistry. (maybe he doesn't need it, but it's a bone to throw out there.) I have 2 high school aged daughter's, and EVERYTHING is so much more magnified than when I was trudging through my 4 years of hell. I often tell my girls: For many, or most of the popular kids, high school is the pinnacle of their existence. That's NOT you.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:42 AM (5buP8)

128 >>>One of these is a call for doctors to report "mentally ill" patients to the FBI. U

Only partway through links, but there is already a system for reporting people who need to be on a three day hold and it goes through court not the FBI. This sounds dumb and messy and illegal.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 07:42 AM (vmMMi)

129 Sex is natural, sex is fun
Sex is best with a space alien.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 05, 2016 07:43 AM (7EHW6)

130 61 Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 07:10 AM (fbovC)


Nothing to worry about, I'm *certain* the GOP will intercede and protect Americans from the abrogation of their rights....

heh...

hahahahaha

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:44 AM (g8Hfr)

131 This sounds dumb and messy and illegal.

In many ways, this is the story of TFP.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 07:44 AM (LUgeY)

132 Obama set to release 17 more terrorists from GITMO.


http://fxn.ws/1mwSuMS

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

Little is known publicly about which prisoners are being prepared for
transfer, but the Obama administration has notified Congress it plans to
ship out 17 detainees - some of whom could be transferred within days.

And Congress does nothing. George III had less power than Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:45 AM (45oDG)

133 Well the sun is hitting the tops of the trees now. So looks like the low bottomed out at 24.0F. Also looks like a nice sunny day with a predicted high of 41F. At least it ain't raining. My drive down to GA started with rain here and ended with rain when I got to destination. Rained the entire time.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:45 AM (t2KH5)

134 Wow, just watched the video and read the story about what happened in Cologne, Germany on New Year's Eve. Over a thousand "migrants" were brazenly assaulting and raping women, robbing people, and shooting fireworks randomly into groups of people at a Cologne train station. Just ordinary German citizens and taxpayers, trying to use their own transit system, were assaulted by hordes of these low-life thugs. The "migrants" were groping and tearing the clothes off German women as they tried to escape the station, while shouting "fucky fucky" at them and calling them sluts. Even though all this mayhem and lawlessness was filmed by CCTV cameras in the station, only 5 of these assh*les have been arrested.

It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (a31sM)

135 The Penis Mightier!

Posted by: Sean Connery at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (6TPa2)

136 Posted by: mindful webworker - ev'rybody dance now at January 05, 2016 07:20 AM (Ma5u/)


It's like the goodnight routine from The Waltons.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (kpqmD)

137 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:42 AM (5buP

Thanks very much for the empathy and the prayers; I keep telling him that but he replies "I just don't care". I think it's his passive aggressive way of dealing with it.. Right now he has a B in the class, but if he continues to not try his grade will sink lower as I've told him. I've looked at the work; It does seem pretty dull and he reads a lot of stuff on his own about Chemistry but I can't imagine any teacher accepting a new student at this point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:47 AM (M+RRn)

138 >>>>Not trying to be mean, simply stating that you can not believe anything
the Obama press gang puts out. Both he and they are notorious liars.
.
.
.I think I figured that part out already.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:47 AM (iONHu)

139 tearing the clothes off German women as they tried to escape the station, while shouting "fucky fucky" at them


Five dollah!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 07:48 AM (kpqmD)

140 I'd love to see the internet flooded with plans and instructions for building DIY guns.

12 gauge shotguns should be really easy.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 07:48 AM (u5gzz)

141 139 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 07:48 AM (kpqmD)

If only there were a technological implement that allowed people to control out of control feral humans....

maybe made by a pair named Heckler and Koch

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (g8Hfr)

142 "Ted Cruz has surged to a statistical tie with Donald Trump among Republicans in California, while Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina have tumbled in this late-voting state, according to a new poll."

Snort. "Late-voting state".

Any of you who aren't Commiefornians have any idea how long it's been since a Republican primary vote in CA was material in a Presidential contest? That would be a LONG time, thank you very much.

And yet the senile party establishment stick with having places like Iow-eh and New Hamster go first, despite their crummy historical track records at picking eventual winners.

With regard to Carly Fiascorina? Memories of her run against Babs Boxer bob to the surface like punchbowl turds. Much like Mitt Romney running against Ted Kennedy, Carly often seemed to be attacking the incumbent Democrat *from the left*.

I get that people liked Carly for her polished arguments, smooth media skills, and consistent bare-knuckled attacks on Democrats. Guess what? Those are all learned skills. She certainly didn't show them when she ran for the Senate out here. She went and boned up on this stuff in the meantime. Why don't we have someone with more consistent conservative credentials learn those skills instead?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (noWW6)

143 124 New prog memeIve seen on Chipotle food poisoning is that it is corporate sabotage, probably by Monsanto, to destroy the health food industry and force everybody to eat GMO foods. Makes perfect sense to me.

More likely: If you've ever eaten at a Chipolte, take a gander at all the diversity that works there. They sickened 100+ people in Boston, and it's as likely to me it was due to poor food handling as any systemic food borne bacteria.
Also, the Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was probably targeted by NYC health Department by progs who can't stand all the hate chicken being sold there.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (5buP8)

144 "Even though all this mayhem and lawlessness was filmed by CCTV cameras in the station, only 5 of these assh*les have been arrested. "

I'm sure the police would like to help but they are tied up working on the university rape crisis there. It is not just a problem for the special snowflakes here on campus in America.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (1BQGO)

145 Local news?áI was watching Morning Joe, and they showed a clip of Bill and it looks like the energy is just not there. I don't underestimate Bill's ability to charm an audience, but he was just not bringing it.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:37 AM


He's on some sort of pure vegan diet so it's no wonder his energy level is so low. Hillary's probably spiking his drinks with saltpeter too to render 'little Bill' useless.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (fbovC)

146 "It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap."

Guilt-wracked postwar Germans set out to abolish their own culture, language,and nation. They're finally succeeding.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 07:50 AM (noWW6)

147 143 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (5buP

so we on the right need to further encourage Chipotle...

duly noted.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:50 AM (g8Hfr)

148 134 It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (a31sM)

Well we are currently "tolerating" bring in somewhere around 80,000 of these a year here with a massive increase coming. So well have the same kind of shit going on. Probably why Obama wants to confiscate all the guns. If that happened here there would most likely be some dead muzzies in the street.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:51 AM (t2KH5)

149 Wow, just watched the video and read the story about
what happened in Cologne, Germany on New Year's Eve. Over a thousand
"migrants" were brazenly assaulting and raping women, robbing people,
and shooting fireworks randomly into groups of people at a Cologne train
station. Just ordinary German citizens and taxpayers, trying to use
their own transit system, were assaulted by hordes of these low-life
thugs. The "migrants" were groping and tearing the clothes off German
women as they tried to escape the station, while shouting "fucky fucky"
at them and calling them sluts. Even though all this mayhem and
lawlessness was filmed by CCTV cameras in the station, only 5 of these
assh*les have been arrested.



It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (a31sM)


Merkel needs to be hung for treason and the krauts need to nut up and take care of these animals

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:51 AM (45oDG)

150 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 05, 2016 07:51 AM (ZQfW9)

151 146 Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 07:50 AM (noWW6)

We're only 20-30 years behind 'em...

not so sure what precisely I am supposed to feel guilty about but the beautiful people say my nation has to die too.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:51 AM (g8Hfr)

152 140 I'd love to see the internet flooded with plans and instructions for building DIY guns.

Take a gander at some of the slide shows of the rigs dreamed up in S. America et al. ((shudder)). Most of them look like 50/50 as to who gets killed, victim or perp.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:52 AM (5buP8)

153 @134 "It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap."-Posted by: TrivialPursuer

When it starts happening here we will tolerate it too or be charged with a hate crime.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 07:52 AM (HSAmh)

154 >>>>These op tempos also mean that the ships are going to have less time in
port for repair and refit, and they'll wear out faster, and they may not
be ready to fight when called upon.

If Congress had any sense
regarding matters naval *, they would be paying close attention to
INSURV reports. These occasionally now leak into the public domain, and
leaked ones make for alarming reading.

USN warships are
deploying, including to dangerous hot spots such as the South China Sea
and the Persian Gulf, with busted systems. Including busted sensor,
defensive, and offensive weapons systems. Nothing to go wrong with that
plan **, you can be sure!

* The only prominent figure on the Hill
who seems consistently interested in the Navy is John "Old Man Yells At
Clouds" McCain. Who is a former naval aviator and who is hence most
focused on the air wing and CVN side of the Navy. Which is important,
but not the whole picture, and the systems readiness difficulties are
the worst in the smaller surface combatants, not on the carriers.

** An inadvertent but revealing pun. The people who are stirring the shit in the South China Sea are the Chinese navy, the PLAN.
.
.
.We are back to where we were in the 1980s. Deployments went from an average of 6 months to 9 months then. Equipment was breaking at nearly unsustainable rates and morale was in the $hitter. We would go out on deployment and have to sit an anchor for the week or so right before the new Fiscal year instead of launching planes because of fuel and money shortages.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:53 AM (iONHu)

155 143 Also, the Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was probably
targeted by NYC health Department by progs who can't stand all the hate
chicken being sold there.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM (5buP

The article said they had rats and other vermin, as did 50% of the restaurants in NYC.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:53 AM (t2KH5)

156 148 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:51 AM (t2KH5)

Emperor Urkle X is showing a LOT of movement with his visible hand, I would wager heavily he is instructing DoJ to go after lawful shoots in defense of another for "civil rights violations" ala the UK outlawing self-defense with his hidden one.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:53 AM (g8Hfr)

157 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 07:46 AM (a31sM)

Merkel doesn't care; She doesn't have to travel in the cologne strain station on NYE. That's a problem with most politicians. They are in bubbles and what happens to real people doesn't affect them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 07:56 AM (M+RRn)

158 154 .We are back to where we were in the 1980s.
Deployments went from an average of 6 months to 9 months then. Equipment
was breaking at nearly unsustainable rates and morale was in the
$hitter. We would go out on deployment and have to sit an anchor for the
week or so right before the new Fiscal year instead of launching planes
because of fuel and money shortages.


Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 07:53 AM (iONHu)

Every deployment I made in the 70s was 9 months are longer. But then we had fewer ships as well and only one Nuke.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:56 AM (t2KH5)

159 Vic,
That was one of my first thoughts-Texas!

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 07:56 AM (sj3Ax)

160 Kansas Republican Tim Huelskamp is back in the graces of the leadership after Boner has been kicked to the curb. He was kicked off the agriculture committee by Boner for voting against the BS budget sellout.

So, Paul Rino is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer?

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 07:56 AM (O7MnT)

161 The article said they had rats and other vermin, as did 50% of the restaurants in NYC.

I spent a month in NYC one week. My guess is that ANY restaurant there could be closed by the health department, at any time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:57 AM (5buP8)

162 161 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:57 AM (5buP

Hard to believe that under the neon patina Al-NYC is a vermin riddled hellhole....

no really hard to believe.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 07:58 AM (g8Hfr)

163 Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 07:49 AM

After reading your comment, I went back to the story and looked at the "poll" results.

Supposedly, just over 1000 people were polled. Getting "Republicans" out of that number brought the total down to about 300. They conducted the "survey" in English and Spanish.

As I said before, a name like "Cruz" -- or Lopez, Garcia, Hernandez, etc. -- is the key to success in CA. Doesn't matter what he stands for, dude's a homie.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 07:58 AM (mIvL9)

164 54: "The only thing worse than being unable to sleep? Subjecting myself to Morning Joe."

Rum will cure both ailments.

Or so I am told...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 05, 2016 07:58 AM (4nmNX)

165 161
I spent a month in NYC one week. My guess is that ANY restaurant there could be closed by the health department, at any time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:57 AM (5buP

I have only seen one place here closed by the health department and that was a KFC.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 07:59 AM (t2KH5)

166 "It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap."-Posted by: TrivialPursuer



When it starts happening here we will tolerate it too or be charged with a hate crime.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 07:52 AM (HSAmh)


When it does let it hit the progressive snowflakes first. When mommy and daddy find out their little angel got groped or raped by Mohammed then we'll see how progressive they really are. Of course they'll still probably blame someone else

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:59 AM (45oDG)

167 Will you pray for my friend Gayle? She had golf ball size malignant brain tumor, surgery was November 12 & they could get 80% only..
She updated FB yesterday to "end stage." She was supposed to start 42 days of both chemo & radiation yesterday. Now I'm not sure what she's doing.
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:00 AM (sj3Ax)

168 What if I sell an all-steel "art table" that has legs that just happen to be perfectly dimensioned to work as shotgun barrels?

I'm sensing a growth industry here.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:00 AM (u5gzz)

169 166
When it does let it hit the progressive
snowflakes first. When mommy and daddy find out their little angel got
groped or raped by Mohammed then we'll see how progressive they really
are. Of course they'll still probably blame someone else


Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:59 AM (45oDG)

And the public will never know because if by some chance the MFM reports it the fact that they are an imported muzzie will never be mentioned. In fact no names and pictures will be released either.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:01 AM (t2KH5)

170 I don't know how an oil based heating system works.

In other news, it's 24 outside right now! I don't know I'm going to make it out of the house.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 08:01 AM (vmMMi)

171 >>>Every deployment I made in the 70s was 9 months are longer. But then we had fewer ships as well and only one Nuke.
.
.
.I was in the Army in the 1970s sitting with the 3rd ID in Germany on what seemed to be permanent alert. Switched to the Navy after that. Got tired of sleeping in the mud and eating out of a can.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 08:01 AM (iONHu)

172 Boston mayor Marty Walsh agrees w/the SCOAMF & his gun EO.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:02 AM (sj3Ax)

173 166 Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:59 AM (45oDG)

"Damn those *conservatives* for bringing Mohammed the Goat F***er here in the first place..."

//Addled Leftoid Mom and Dad thanks to the GOPe's acquiescence to Ogabe.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:02 AM (g8Hfr)

174 170 Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 08:01 AM (vmMMi)

It's a balmy 24 degrees here in scenic Butte Montana....

of course four days ago it was -19

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (g8Hfr)

175 172
Boston mayor Marty Walsh agrees w/the SCOAMF his gun EO.



Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:02 AM (sj3Ax)

I would have fully expected that. Even the fact that he is agreeing to it before he even sees it.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (t2KH5)

176 The cologne strain station is a biggie. Always remember being routed thru it when I was a student tourist. It was always at night and they would call out the name and I would drag myself out of a deep sleep and look out the window. Only saw thru the fog the two church towers. Hearing all that yakity yak in German was unsettling.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (iQIUe)

177 12 Evil vandals are attacking Mosques with bacon. When these vandals start cutting off muzzie's heads I will say we may have an issue.

-------------

And odds are that it's all just another taqiyya hoax job anyway.

Posted by: Stu-22 at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (rUc9h)

178 "I was watching Morning Joe, and they showed a clip of Bill and it looks
like the energy is just not there. I don't underestimate Bill's ability
to charm an audience, but he was just not bringing it."

Think of this from Bill's perspective. He is visibly fading away. He knows it. He's got only a few good years left. He'd frankly just rather go quietly hang out with the Energizer Bunny and die in mid-boff like Nelson Rockefeller. But since it's his "wife" running, he's got to make at least a token show of assisting her.

Under normal conditions, Hillary would face some invertebrate GOP establishment apparatchik who would never bring up the fact that Bill, rather than being a "womanizer", is instead a serial sexual predator.

In that scenario, if Hill won, which she probably would, Bill would coast through his sunset years as First Gentleman. If she somehow lost, he would retain his Slightly Tarnished But Still Widely Beloved Ex-President status.

But these aren't normal conditions. Trump. That's all that need be said.

Under these abnormal conditions, where Hill faces someone who will dig every last bit of dirt about her husband and shout it in a voice loud enough to reverberate around the world, Bill faces not only the prospect of getting blamed for Hill losing, but also of having his pleasant retirement prospects and slightly-tarnished-but-still-beloved reputation ruined.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (noWW6)

179 Republican presidential candidate and business mogul Donald Trump has repeatedly vowed to build up the U.S. military if elected president. But it is not clear he will have the experienced commanders within the ranks to do it. In the halls of the Pentagon, there is a different plan afoot for the Trump presidency. Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than not, they proclaim they will leave.




If this is true that they would rather have Barry weaken and fag up the military than Trump to build it up and strengthen it then we need to clean the Pentagon out immediately.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (45oDG)

180 When it does let it hit the progressive snowflakes first. When mommy and daddy find out their little angel got groped or raped by Mohammed then we'll see how progressive they really are. Of course they'll still probably blame someone elsePosted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 07:59 AM



Old definition of liberal was a conservative who hadn't been mugged yet.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 08:04 AM (fbovC)

181 Here's the link to the German story, if anybody hasn't seen it.

ttp://tinyurl.com/p7ogxys

I wonder how much media attention (if any) this received in Germany. I keep expecting to wake up one morning and read a headline saying that some enraged German has put a bullet through Angela Merkel's head, or that a group of angry German citizens is holding a bunch of these muzzie criminals at gunpoint and demanding that the government deport them, or some such. But instead it's just one "migrant" outrage after the next, and the Germans seem to be doing nothing in response. I just don't get it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 08:04 AM (a31sM)

182 Years ago some ranchers in south-east CA asked the feds if they could plow the land around their property for fire breaks. Feds said no because it was the habitat of the precious kangaroo rat and it couldn't be disturbed.
One rancher said okay fine, went home and plowed his land anyway.
Sure enough, a fire rolled through, destroyed all of the rancher's property except his and the kangaroo rats were crispy critters.

Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2016 08:05 AM (AqfcR)

183 179 If this is true that they would rather have Barry
weaken and fag up the military than Trump to build it up and strengthen
it then we need to clean the Pentagon out immediately.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 08:03 AM (45oDG)

This is not unexpected, Obama has already purged the military of senior officers who refused to kiss his ass.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:05 AM (t2KH5)

184 How does one go about contacting someone in the business of renting equipment to finish 80% lowers?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:05 AM (u5gzz)

185 FWIW, the local news here is reporting that Obama's EO will (and this is just how they put it...) require ANY seller, from a gun store to a garage to the Dark Web, to conduct a background check on the buyer.

Ooooh, the "Dark Web." Cue scary CSI-type music.

Anyway, the nits aren't in how you and I interpret what "in the business" means...the nits are in how the ATF will interpret it. And I am pretty sure F-Troop leadership will NOT interpret it kindly.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2016 08:06 AM (PFy0L)

186 Boston mayor Marty Walsh agrees w/the SCOAMF his gun EO.
Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:02 AM


Of course he does. Maaaaahhhhhty is a Boston Democrat.

So's Chaaaaaaaahhhhhhlie Bakuh, even though he claims to be a Republican.

The level of incompetence and plain ol' stupidity in this state is beyond pathetic. Must be something in the water.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 08:07 AM (mIvL9)

187 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 06:56 AM (t2KH5)

Thanks for your morning news. Excellent. All due respect, Obama doesn't announce new laws. He pronounces new rules or diktats. And for some crazy reason we allow it.

Two people we know nothing about and should know almost everything -- Barack Obama and his little pug faced sidekick Valerie Jarrett are riding roughshod over this once proud and powerful country. They are treating American citizens like the illegals they are stuffing into this country.

They say you get the government you deserve. If so, we must have screwed up royally somewhere back down the the road.

Posted by: gracepmc at January 05, 2016 08:07 AM (OU4q6)

188 "It is astonishing to me that German citizens are tolerating this kind of crap."-Posted by: TrivialPursuer

When it starts happening here we will tolerate it too or be charged with a hate crime."

Yep. Dept of Ed has already sent out a letter to schools to keep an eye out for bullying of the muzzies (and all students of color) and how to prevent it. One of my favorite recommendations

Diversify leadership and staff

That has been a proven method to method to improve any institution. Dem loving teachers are supporting their own demise, not just that of the country.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 08:07 AM (1BQGO)

189 Wow, the stock market is sure volatile.

Speaking of that, I'll be right back. My Chipotle bubble is about to burst.


*hic*


*flush*

...er...


*flush again*

Posted by: Hillary- "I Love Aliens" at January 05, 2016 08:07 AM (NeFrd)

190 My guess is that ANY restaurant there could be closed by the health department, at any time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 07:57 AM (5buP

That is true of any restaurant in America. The regulations governing food handling and storage are byzantine. It is almost impossible to follow them perfectly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2016 08:09 AM (Zu3d9)

191 "She updated FB yesterday to 'end stage.' She was supposed to start 42
days of both chemo and radiation yesterday. Now I'm not sure what
she's doing."

Oh, criminy, Carol. I just loathe cancer.

Not sure what I would do in Gayle's shoes.

I hope that whatever she decides, she is easy in her mind about it.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:09 AM (noWW6)

192 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 08:04 AM (a31sM)

No guns, Leftist indoctrination in the schools, they feel a boatload of guilt for allowing the holocaust to happen (and so they're told they have to accept all these immigrants) and they have no meaningful Christian faith life. It's a nasty mix.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:09 AM (M+RRn)

193 http://tinyurl.com/z5hd9of

RIP Robert Stigwood...

Grease was the word.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:09 AM (g8Hfr)

194 This has only encouraged countries like China to become more aggressive and it is worrying our allies in the Pacific regions.

Tough shit. Don't like it? Make Warships out of your universal healthcare or, eat a fucking bag of Chicom dicks. We footed the bill for your sOcIaLiSm!!1111 for decades. Now, you can fucking blow me.

Fuck other countries. No more.

Except Japan. Japan's cool.

Everybody else, fuck off. We're broke.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 05, 2016 08:10 AM (WWdgA)

195 Breitbart:
$28 TRILLION* debt load causes credit crunch.
Hmmmm...I might swing by the ATM today.

* I'm sure most people here know this, but it bears repeating:
A million is 10 X $100,000.
A billion is a THOUSAND MILLION.
A TRILLION is a THOUSAND BILLION.
Those are very, very big numbers humans have no capacity to conceptualize.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 08:11 AM (5buP8)

196 187 They say you get the government you deserve. If so, we must have screwed up royally somewhere back down the the road.


Posted by: gracepmc at January 05, 2016 08:07 AM (OU4q6)

Oh we know plenty about Val Jar Jar the slum queen. She is a rich (off the government's tit) SJW and permanent offended racist. Right up Obama's alley.
And there is not a "we"to it, he was put in place by a communist oriented Democrat Party and voted in by people wedded to free shit and yellow dog Democrats. (old saying in the South; he would vote for a yellar dog if there was a 'D" after his name)

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:11 AM (t2KH5)

197 Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 07:02 AM (NOIQH)

Like pretty boy Paul Ryan would ever even consider not inviting Barack Obama, a Democrat ally, to speak.

Posted by: gracepmc at January 05, 2016 08:12 AM (OU4q6)

198 194 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 05, 2016 08:10 AM (WWdgA)

The problem is the world's wealthiest corridor runs in a backwards c from Japan to India....

pretty much been that way forever...

The United States exerted 90 years of effort stabilizing that corridor....

Ogabe gave it away.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:12 AM (g8Hfr)

199 I went to Breitbart and read the article about the mayhem in the Cologne train station. What is also disturbing is how many Neo-Nazis or Muslims blaming Jews and/or Zionists for the violence; It's sick.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (M+RRn)

200 protect old peoples gun collections from the gov't.....get their weapons in a trust so they can't be confiscated

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (0O7c5)

201 Sorry, 28 trillion debt load is on China. Only 16-17 trillion is on us.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (5buP8)

202 I knew a guy who was the sup at a small NPS park. He was always getting sued over any improvements to part property they planned bc of some wildflower/weed. But the plant flourished any where the ground was distrubed.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (iQIUe)

203 What's that on the horizon?

The new selection of the GOPe!

Listening to the radio this morning and the chatter from all the Fox NewsHeads and their affiliates, the new choice is CHRISTIE, the slightly Trump-like but more 'respectable' choice!

Accept no substitutes: Chris Christie has that Trump-like flavor without being crude or jejune!


Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (oVJmc)

204 "In the halls of the Pentagon, there is a different plan afoot for the
Trump presidency. Officers are privately contemplating what they would
do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than
not, they proclaim they will leave."

90 percent of the flag ranks are rotten boughs who need to be cut off anyway.

Polls show that the military is the most trusted institution in the country, which it ought not to be. It's suffering the very same problems with stifling bureaucracy, endemic corruption, and institutional incompetence which afflict the rest of governmental America.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:14 AM (noWW6)

205 I left my former housemates with four young'uns trained last winter how to light the pilot and fire up the boiler, top off the water level and bleed air bubbles out of each radiator.

Still had to visit last night as Philly temps hit 16 degrees (zero wind chill) for a diagnosis and refresher course.

You'd think grad students could make the connection between cold drafty house and window screens where the storm windows ought to be. But Mom and Dad never explained any of this stuff, probably because Granddad or the help handled it all.

Posted by: Spellcheck at January 05, 2016 08:14 AM (j+aWk)

206 201 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (5buP

Right of course the ChiComs are holding ~45-60% of Uncle Jan Yellen's funny money express for us....

something is gonna give.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:14 AM (g8Hfr)

207 Death, taxes and...

Wall Street is loathsome.

You know who will always choose the most disconnected, meaningless, ineffectual, chickenshit gesture to demonstrate "action."

War. Get used to it in an even bigger way.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 08:14 AM (659DL)

208 Mornin everybody

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:15 AM (3ZtZW)

209 good morning fine people. It's been long time no lurk here for me. Great newsdump Vic.

Posted by: fastfreefall at January 05, 2016 08:15 AM (9aK8z)

210 "the new choice is CHRISTIE"

I hope the GOP spends every dime it has on that fat fuck.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:16 AM (u5gzz)

211 Mindful Webworker,
Thank you.
Heat is coming up & making a lot of noise.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:16 AM (sj3Ax)

212 >>"Even though all this mayhem and lawlessness was filmed by CCTV cameras in the station, only 5 of these assh*les have been arrested. "


Well, just saw an article about how they are suppressing immigrant crime stories/stats in Germany.

Anyone who lives in an American "sanctuary city" knows how this works. When an illegal commits a crime they will withhold the name and just refer to then as a [country/neighborhood] resident, preferably without providing the name. But if you dig deeper you might see that it's some Spanish name and he's only been a resident for months.

Also in CO Hickenlooper has put out word that he wants no negative info about pot getting out, so we no longer see those stories about 7th graders selling pot candy at school, or toddlers eating mommy's pot cookie and getting sick -- instead, you can tell it's an issue because the local Children's hospital has started running PSAs instructing parents on how to ID if your child is sick from a pot edible and what medical assistance they may need.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 08:16 AM (NOIQH)

213 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:11 AM (t2KH5)

All true (except Jarrett -- we know surface). I guess I was speaking about the absence of the opposition party.

Posted by: gracepmc at January 05, 2016 08:16 AM (OU4q6)

214 210 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:16 AM (u5gzz)

Joisey Buddah will never escape the blowj*b he gave Ogabe days before the election, just like Mark the Rube will always be Cholo Del Ocho...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:17 AM (g8Hfr)

215 On my blog today is a review of a libertarian novel by Troy Bruce that is about a fictional standoff between locals & feds in a small Colorado town.

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:17 AM (cbfNE)

216 Another BS BO EO...
Isn't it time to,

RELEASE THE HAMSTERS!

Posted by: Fewenuff at January 05, 2016 08:17 AM (T/sbU)

217 Happily, per the ONT, my children are now old enough that I can move from crew served weapons to individual firearms. I'm saving a considerable amount on mortars and rockets, and may even be able to save enough for grad school.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:18 AM (TxJGV)

218 Did any of you morons see that article with the Swiss general saying arm up ?

http://is.gd/oQN7S5

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:19 AM (3ZtZW)

219 In the halls of the Pentagon, there is a different plan afoot for the Trump presidency. Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than not, they proclaim they will leave.
______________________

LOL. Let's hope they mean it. (Even though we all know they don't. They're like lefty celebrities like Alec Baldwin -- always promising to leave the U.S. if the next election doesn't go the way they want, then reneging on the promise).

Most of the officer class in the present U.S. military are a bunch of Obama butt-kissers. Obama purged all the officers who had any real balls, in favor of the "diversity is our greatest strength" PC-worshipping dumbasses.

If the remaining bunch of p*ssified pansies want to quit because Trump makes them wet their panties, I say good riddance.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 08:19 AM (a31sM)

220 Mr. Scribbler,
It's been around for a while but now Antenna TV is replaying Johnny Carson from 11:30 to 1 am. I read they'd start January 1 & even 41 years later he's still funny. I've been watching since the first.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:20 AM (sj3Ax)

221 I have another angle on China.

So I do reviews on Amazon and am a ranked (top 500) reviewer. Whoop-de-doo, I know. But part of the gig is that I get requests every day from Chinese companies asking to send me their dollar store crap for me to review. I don't waste my time but it is interesting to note that the products tend to run in cycles. For example, the big thing last year were selfie sticks...every other email from a Chinese vendor was for a selfie stick. Then it went to RFID-blocking wallets, then Bluetooth headsets, then LED string lights, then money belts, etc.

The thing shaping up now are makeup palettes, whatever the hell THOSE are.

My point being is that unlike requests I get from American or Canadian vendors, Chinese vendors all seem to be a bunch of different sellers hawking the same product. Very little variation in those requests. It's really weird.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)

222 "Sorry, 28 trillion debt load is on China. Only 16-17 trillion is on us."

Someone called while you were out.

I didn't catch all of what they were saying. They were talking awfully quick. Something something "unfunded liabilities". Blah blah "the bulk of the actual American debt is off of the official books".

They said they would call back. Sounded like they meant it.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:21 AM (noWW6)

223 Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump
become their commander-in-chief. And more often than not, they proclaim
they will leave.


Any who would stay under Gaylord but leave under Trump aren't the people I want staying there anyway.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 08:21 AM (oVJmc)

224 "I'm saving a considerable amount on mortars and rockets, and may even be able to save enough for grad school."

I would suggest a M901 ITV instead. It's self propelled and has a Crew Served Weapon. It will be a lot more useful in the days to come.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 05, 2016 08:21 AM (WVsWD)

225 Time for another look at 80% lowers?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:22 AM (ptqRm)

226 "Any who would stay under Gaylord but leave under Trump aren't the people I want staying there anyway."

This!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (ptqRm)

227 All they play on Fox Boston today are Jeb ads!

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (sj3Ax)

228 "Paging Dr. Galt. Dr. John Galt, please call the hospital operator, we have a call holding."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (NeFrd)

229 If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (6TPa2)

230 >> Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than
not, they proclaim they will leave

Um, they stayed while Obama was CiC getting soldier killed and debasing the military every which-way he could, so...you kinda already lost your cred.

Also, there have been stories for years about how there's been a purge of old military leaders replaced by Obama-friendly types, so threats from the remaining Obama yes-men at the Pentagon is expected, no?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (NOIQH)

231 26 Obama says his pen and phone lawmaking doesn't violate the second amendment. Just another Obama lie.

http://bit.ly/1JUGda0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party

Well Obama did take an oath to up-end the constitution. Promise kept.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 05, 2016 08:23 AM (kfcYC)

232 I have a pen. And it's yuuuuge and made of gold!

Posted by: D. Trump at January 05, 2016 08:24 AM (MgcKq)

233 218 Did any of you morons see that article with the Swiss general saying arm up ?
___________________

They border Germany. They know what's coming.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2016 08:24 AM (a31sM)

234 "Any who would stay under Gaylord but leave under Trump aren't the people I want staying there anyway."

From your keyboard to God's monitor.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (O7MnT)

235 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (kff5f)

236 "Most of the officer class in the present U.S. military are a bunch of
Obama butt-kissers. Obama purged all the officers who had any real
balls, in favor of the 'diversity is our greatest strength'
PC-worshipping dumbasses."

Thinking here of the lesbo USAF base commander, in her newly Anthony Kennedy-sanctified gay marriage, who decided that she would henceforth fly the rainbow flag on the staff outside her official on-base residence. That flag and no other.

The Russian and Chinese militaries? Quaking in their boots.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (noWW6)

237 My point being is that unlike requests I get from American or Canadian vendors, Chinese vendors all seem to be a bunch of different sellers hawking the same product. Very little variation in those requests. It's really weird.


They're all just divisions of one company: Popeil.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (LUgeY)

238 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (kff5f)

239 "225 Time for another look at 80% lowers?"

I think so--I mentioned that upthread.

I don't know jack about this, but you probably do. How would I find a person who rents the equipment for me to finish an 80% lower? How much do they usually charge?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:25 AM (u5gzz)

240 Before that pesky Volstead Act came along, the 2nd Amendment read, "A well regulated Speakeasy, being necessary to the sanity of a free State, the right of the people to keep and imbibe Liquor, shall not be infringed."

How'd that work out? You'd think the Feds, especially those constitutional experts in the faculty lounge, would have learned something from the Prohibition Era.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 08:26 AM (UzPAd)

241 Time for another look at 80% lowers?

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Or a 3d printer maybe

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:27 AM (3ZtZW)

242 Russia owns Syrian Airspace.

http://tinyurl.com/hsterzw

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)

243 I was watching Morning Joe, and they showed a clip of Bill and it looks
like the energy is just not there. I don't underestimate Bill's ability
to charm an audience, but he was just not bringing it.

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I heard a radio clip of BJ stumping yesterday. He sounded very old. Craggy voice, tired. He had that Miss Jane Pittman thing going on. At least from that bit I heard, he isn't bringing even a facade of vitality for Cankles campaign trail activities.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 08:27 AM (pVkEV)

244 If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.

===

Can't we just have a plague of locusts like everybody else?

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:28 AM (3ZtZW)

245 Can't we just have a plague of locusts like everybody else?

We already have them-They're called the Congress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:30 AM (M+RRn)

246 If Feministing chick was serious, she would avoid all products invented, discovered, and or made by white men, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 08:31 AM (iQIUe)

247 The Obama administration announced during a conference call with reporters Monday evening that the president's upcoming executive order may require somebody selling even a single firearm to obtain a Federal Firearms License.

Yep. And, no, this isn't a "minor issue." If this is allowed to stand (and I doubt any Republican candidate with the possible exceptions of Trump and Cruz have the stones to overturn the EO) it is gun confiscation.

Because most people aren't going to get their FFL. So what happens when Grampa dies and wants to give his guns to his grandchildren? He can't run the background check - he's dead. Is the executor of the estate expected to do that? Most of the time the "executor" is old aunt Edna who happens to live close to Grampa and sort of has the time. Nope, those guns will be sold to FFL dealers (at best), meaning the family no longer has those heirlooms.

Treating this as anything less than back-door gun confiscation is not treating it with the seriousness it requires.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:31 AM (kff5f)

248 The thing shaping up now are makeup palettes, whatever the hell THOSE are.

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Makeup palettes - those compact-shaped plastic containers that hold various squares or circles filled with different colored eye shadows and/or lip glosses.

/bringing the important news

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (pVkEV)

249 Lady in Black,
I saw clip of Bill on website yesterday & think he looks terrible. Washed up, skinny, old.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (sj3Ax)

250 244 Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:28 AM (3ZtZW)

What do you think Mexifornian expansion eastward is comrade?

//Obamacles

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (g8Hfr)

251 244 Can't we just have a plague of locusts like everybody else?

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 08:28 AM
---------------------------------------------------
True that.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (TxJGV)

252 @212. Yes, I bet you really have to twist the media's arm to NOT report immigrant crime or pot abuse in this country. The media sucks as bad as the politicians. Hell, they won't even report black on white crime in this country.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (HSAmh)

253 Carol: ...Heat is coming up & making a lot of noise.

Heh. Down here in young Oklahoma, all I've ever known was modern gas forced-air central heat (steadily droning at the moment), but that decade and a half we spent in our 100-year-old Chicago apartment building, we had the boiler and steam radiators. Hissing and sometimes knocking were actually comforting sounds on those freezing Windy City winter nights.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sweet home at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (Ma5u/)

254 We already have them-They're called the Congress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:30 AM (M+RRn)


*golf clap*

Thread winner.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (J+mig)

255 The problem is the world's wealthiest corridor runs in a backwards c from Japan to India....

pretty much been that way forever...

The United States exerted 90 years of effort stabilizing that corridor....

Ogabe gave it away.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:12 AM (g8Hfr)


Past the point of caring. Let them get a glimpse of what things used to be like and just how much their survival depends on US.

Then, tell them to munch on another bag of ChiCom dicks.

Blame us for everything?

Fuck you. I don't care anymore.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (WWdgA)

256 Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 08:27 AM (pVkEV)

I don't know that he has to bring any vitality. For many progressives he's the revered elder statesman. Many would like to have Bill running the show again even if it means pulling Hillary's strings. All he has do do is some used some well warn platitudes, take off his glasses and smile and they're smitten.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:33 AM (M+RRn)

257 I don't know jack about this, but you probably do. How would I find a person who rents the equipment for me to finish an 80% lower? How much do they usually charge?

I don't know much about 80% lowers either, but I've heard your can finish them with a drill-press.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:33 AM (kff5f)

258 143 >> Also, the Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was probably targeted by NYC health
Department by progs who can't stand all the hate chicken being sold
there.

And I was 'probably' born on Earth. Open 3 months, and they 'found' 59 health code violations.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 05, 2016 08:33 AM (gyKtp)

259 >> Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than
not, they proclaim they will leave

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They want to leave as the guy who is promising to throw buckets of money at them takes charge? Not very bright, are they?

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:34 AM (cbfNE)

260 "Treating this as anything less than back-door gun confiscation is not treating it with the seriousness it requires."

Oh come on. Everybody knows that honesty and fair play are the Left's highest priorities.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:34 AM (u5gzz)

261 IOW, Truman really was a continuation of FDR. I have no idea why so many people think he was a good President.

Aaaa let me go out on a limb here...If you pissed him off he would Nuke you.

Posted by: Paladin at January 05, 2016 08:35 AM (mCOPv)

262 They want to leave as the guy who is promising to throw buckets of money at them takes charge? Not very bright, are they?

Well, if these are the suck-up mostly-political officers that TFG has promoted/kept, then I say "good riddance."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:35 AM (kff5f)

263 252 Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 05, 2016 08:32 AM (HSAmh)

The media, the media, the media....

I pulled the fade for much of last year b/c in the end typing what I feel needs done to the media would have me joining other banned members.

NOTHING will improve until the media is chin dusted off the plate and deeper into the batter's box.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:35 AM (g8Hfr)

264 Treating this as anything less than back-door gun confiscation is not treating it with the seriousness it requires. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:31 AM (kff5f)


It's a back door to confiscation for sure. The first step which they're doing now is to make the FFLs the only way to acquire a gun legally. The next step will be to completely stop issuing FFLs. As existing FFL holders die off, or they get impatient and revoke all of them, nobody can legally become a new gun owner anymore.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:35 AM (J+mig)

265 The only reason I don't look into the 80% lowers is they'll still need to be parkerized/ceracoated/whatever.

Having some unfinished ones on hand, I could certainly see. But I still think it's a better plan just to do a bulk-buy of 100% blem lowers instead if you intend to use them in a "normal" manner.

I get the premise of the 80%'ers, but finished ones come with their own set of hassles when you try and pass them on.

But you know how opinions are...

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 05, 2016 08:37 AM (q/kmn)

266 Jarrett is on MSNBC basically stating that Obama has the power to unilaterally enact new gun laws because Congress won't.

It's been a while since my high school civics class but I'm pretty sure that isn't the way it was designed to work.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2016 08:37 AM (/tuJf)

267 246 If Feministing chick was serious, she would avoid all products invented, discovered, and or made by white men, too.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 08:31 AM (iQIUe)


Don't have to. Everything was invented, by blacks, in Africa, in the 15th Century.

So there.

*sticks out tongue*

Posted by: Professor Kwanzaa Jamal Jones, PhD, Early African Gender Studies at January 05, 2016 08:37 AM (WWdgA)

268 BoBama- Straight outta Harvard. Let remember that in the future.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (TxJGV)

269 "All they play on Fox Boston today are Jeb ads!"

Yes, it's New Jeb! With exciting new ideas! Try New Jeb today!

::: rapidly muttering announcer voice :::

New Jeb may cause side effects. Consult your doctor if you experience any of the following: constant sleepiness, random muscle twitches, explosive diarrhea, development of a huge paunch, eyes falling out of their sockets, rectal prolapse, bubonic plague, or election of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (noWW6)

270 "It's a back door to confiscation for sure. The first step which they're doing now is to make the FFLs the only way to acquire a gun legally. The next step will be to completely stop issuing FFLs. As existing FFL holders die off, or they get impatient and revoke all of them, nobody can legally become a new gun owner anymore."

There's no federal law prohibiting the possession of marijuana. There never has been such a law.

Federal law prohibits possession of marijuana without a tax stamp.

And nobody gets a tax stamp.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (u5gzz)

271 >>Yes, I bet you really have to twist the media's arm to NOT report immigrant crime or pot abuse in this country.

Exactly - I'm sure they're happy to comply The Lefty Denver Post hired a "pot reporter" as soon as it was legalized his stuff is always prominent on their website's home page.

What's funny is that you'll see pot advocates complaining about how hard it is to get info about pot-related crime, such as person on drugs --never identified which drugs -- drives SUV into building and kills someone. They want to rule out pot, or at least be aware if it was pot so that they can deal with it, but the police withhold the details (also in this case, it was an illegal, so double the news suppression).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

272 In Trump's Face the Nation interview
https://youtu.be/QrbE-2M-aNE
he reiterated his intent to not just build the wall but make Mexico pay for it. The interviewer smirked, but Trump came back dead serious.

Funny guy. When he talks about it, I just keep picturing the Pres of Mexico handing him a too-generous check in that SNL sketch.

Posted by: mindful webworker - definitely undecided at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (Ma5u/)

273 If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.

===

Can't we just have a plague of locusts like everybody else?



Locusts? I'd settle for a plague of black.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (Yu4ah)

274 >>>The Obama administration announced during a conference call with
reporters Monday evening that the president's upcoming executive order
may require somebody selling even a single firearm to obtain a Federal
Firearms License.<<<

Many years ago in California, you could take a firearm to a FFL and as a third party they would broker a transfer of ownership after the proper background checks had been cleared. The new owner paid for everything. Barry's EO changed this?

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (UzPAd)

275 Hi folks,

My name is Marco Rubio and I want to destroy your rights to Due Process.

I'd also like to bring back the Dunking Chair as a proper way to assess innocence or guilt

and do away with that nasty old-fashioned and cumbersome trial by jury.


Vote for me!

Posted by: Sen Marco Rubio at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (KUa85)

276 266 Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2016 08:37 AM (/tuJf)

Yeah I was at the tire shop discussing Captain Pen and Phone yesterday...

essentially donkey voter seems to think "if Congress doesn't give Ogabe precisely what he wants he gets it anyway..."

I get confused but I am pretty sure it never worked that way with Chimpy.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (g8Hfr)

277 I saw clip of Bill on website yesterday think he looks terrible. Washed up, skinny, old.

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He does. He's pale and he looks bad. Fenelon, I'd gather that those types who swoon over Billy Jeff would do so regardless. He's an elder statesman to a lot of Dems, who apparently could care less about integrity. I don't see him garnering much attention in the younger set...those who haven't lived through his glory days of high charisma. I don't think his charm miles travel as far these days. But then again, teh yoots are glomming onto Bernie Sanders, whose got one foot in the grave, so who knows.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (pVkEV)

278 Federal law prohibits possession of marijuana without a tax stamp.



And nobody gets a tax stamp.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:38 AM (u5gzz)


Exactly. That's how they originally made full-auto weapons illegal, IIRC. Same type of scheme. You had to get a license, but nobody gets the license.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (J+mig)

279 http://tinyurl.com/gpywjzm

Here's link of Trump last night, plus idiot commentator.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (sj3Ax)

280 >>> Chick-fil-A in Manhattan was probably targeted by NYC health

Department

"And I was 'probably' born on Earth. Open 3 months, and they 'found' 59 health code violations."

I've never been in a CFA that was not absolutely clean as a whistle.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:40 AM (noWW6)

281 Have we determined yet if Valerie Jarrett is an American citizen? Didn't her parents surrender their citizenship? We've expended lots of time on BHO but I believe we should move on to the Commander in Chief and figure out her situation.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:40 AM (TxJGV)

282 "I think so--I mentioned that upthread.

I don't know jack about this, but you probably do. How would I find a person who rents the equipment for me to finish an 80% lower? How much do they usually charge?"

I was off the site for a bit, so missed your previous comment.


Anyhow, depending on your State, as well as new Federal translations of existing law concerning finishing 80% Lowers, you may no longer be able to rent equipment to complete one.

Refinements in home level jigs and templates have made it possible to complete one using something as simple as a small drill press, available from Harbor Freight.

Search the internet for gun owners forums based out of your particular State, and there will almost certainly be a section or thread on gunsmithing and 80% lowers.

Not the best answer, but IANAL, nor do I want to pretend to be on the internet.

They're doable, and perfectly legal within the confines of State and Federal law.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:41 AM (ptqRm)

283 Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief.

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Yeah. And how many celebrities were going to leave the USA if Bush was elected, then re-elected? Unfortunately, none of them left.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 08:41 AM (pVkEV)

284 Imagine the firestorm 'not reading books by black people in 2016' would ignite.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 08:42 AM (oVJmc)

285 275 Sen. Marco Rubio,
NO, I won't vote for one who worked on Gang of 8 BS Bill.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (sj3Ax)

286 Officers are privately contemplating what they would do should Trump become their commander-in-chief. And more often than
not, they proclaim they will leave

--

They want to leave as the guy who is promising to throw buckets of money at them takes charge? Not very bright, are they?
Posted by: @votermom



If they were bright, they wouldn't have backed obama.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (Yu4ah)

287 (Updated willowed comment from ONT)

Obama is saying his gun control EOs are worth it if they save a life or two. You know what's proven to save a life or two: stop-and-frisk, in any large US city, over a weekend.

Either these Obama EOs (1) have some purported legal effect or (2) they don't.

If (1) then Obama is usurping the authority of courts to interpret statutes, agencies like the ATF to administer them, and the DOJ to enforce them, all of which are unconstitutional.

But the EOs in fact are more like (2) as they actually do very little.

AG Lynch is trying to satisfy her boss, and still live with her Constitutional duties, by trying to say that this is a "nothing burger" that doesn't really change much of anything legally because it's (2). But in principle it does because it's (1).

So the inevitable news and commentary cycle this week will distract us from the issues that matter.

The only good from this is that Hillary will be nailed to the mast on this, which at the margin can swing OH, PA, CO, NH, NV, VA and dare I say it NY!. Let us pray

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (rs5De)

288 One other thing that this illegal order does is it ties in with something they have already been doing. Somewhere along the line that requirement that FFL holders hold applications for two years has disappeared. They now hold them for what I believe is much longer without a change in the law. AND the ATF has been coming around demanding that the store operators allow them to audit those records, i.e. see who has those guns now and log them.


In other words they have achieved back door gun registration simply through reinterpretation of the regulations. By requiring even private individuals to obtain an FFL they get registration on every gun that changes hands in the US.


And history has shown that the first step in gun confiscation is registration so they know who has the guns.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (t2KH5)

289 I've never been in a CFA that was not absolutely clean as a whistle.

This.

We are living in the time of the American Chavez.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (659DL)

290 ...Barry's EO changed this?...
You think his words mean what they would mean to you. What this is about is:
1 you sell a gun to a friend.
2 friend has gun in car and is stopped near a scool.
3 friend is coerced into allowing a search, forgot about gun.
4 friend arrested.
5 you arrested because you didn't get a background search on friend.

... for the children.

Posted by: Big Lie at January 05, 2016 08:44 AM (CzhL0)

291 Valerie Jarrett was also the one who said, "President Obama will be ready to rule on day one." so she'd have no problem with even more steps of dictatorship

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:44 AM (M+RRn)

292 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:41 AM (ptqRm)

OK, thanks. I've been meaning to get more familiar with local gun forums anyway. This is just one more reason to get moving on that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:45 AM (u5gzz)

293 "All they play on Fox Boston today are Jeb ads!"

"I'm Jeb Bush and I appr...Zzzzzzzzzz.... Zzzzzzz...."

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 08:46 AM (O7MnT)

294 Vic: I have no idea why so many people think he [Truman] was a good President.

A) Dropped the bombs on Japan.

2) He wasn't FDR?

That's all I've got


He failed to rollup the Commies in the US Government; Hoover had a damn fine list of them FDR had ignored during the war.

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 08:47 AM (fBkaR)

295 ...they proclaim they will leave...

People proclaim a lot of things.
I proclaim that people who proclaim are full of sh*t.

Posted by: Big Lie at January 05, 2016 08:47 AM (CzhL0)

296 We are living in the time of the American Chavez.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (659DL)


Regulators who want to find something to persecute you for will find something, no matter how minor, and make a mountain out of a molehill. Meanwhile, friends of theirs can get away with rats and poo-flinging monkeys in the customer areas. It's nothing more than tyranny with a thin veneer of legalism spread over it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:47 AM (J+mig)

297 So can haz commentz agin? Seems that ole kinggeorgama at his tyranny in the newe year.

Posted by: Eromero at January 05, 2016 08:47 AM (b+df9)

298 274 Many years ago in California, you could take a
firearm to a FFL and as a third party they would broker a transfer of
ownership after the proper background checks had been cleared. The new
owner paid for everything. Barry's EO changed this?


Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 08:39 AM (UzPAd)

Currently in every other State in the union an individual can transfer a firearm to another individual w/o the government getting involved at all, as long as it is not a strawman purchase.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (t2KH5)

299 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:43 AM (t2KH5)

The NSA could find probably 95% of gun owners in a week.

Just data mine the credit card companies for gun or ammo purchases.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (Zu3d9)

300 I saw Don Henley on Austin City Limits recently and halfway through his show he brought out two thirds of the Dixie Chicks to play a song with him, and he moaned darkly about how they had been mistreated.

The Dixie Chicks should have just stayed in Europe, and maybe visited the Cologne train station at New Years if they are so convinced McChimpy had a worse approach to terrorism than King Putt does.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (TxJGV)

301 ...thin veneer of legalism spread over it...

and getting thinner everyday.

Posted by: 1776 at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (CzhL0)

302 296 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:47 AM (J+mig)

In the end the tyranny of the leftoid alphabet heads is why unless and until one of the serious candidates starts talking about the Herculean task of cleaning the donkey shit out of the federal stalls nothing will change.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:49 AM (g8Hfr)

303 And so Jarrett obviously thinks that the role of Congress is simply to enforce the will of the President-bt enacting any aways he wants.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:49 AM (M+RRn)

304 "I left my former housemates with four young'uns trained last winter how
to light the pilot and fire up the boiler, top off the water level and
bleed air bubbles out of each radiator."

Bleed the radiators? The devil you say!

Why, being kept awake at four in the morning by screeching, honking, banging noises from the radiator is part of the ineffable antique charm of steam heat.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:50 AM (noWW6)

305 So anyway I call BS on that Pentagon story.

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:50 AM (cbfNE)

306 Meant -by enacting any laws he wants.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:51 AM (M+RRn)

307 303
And so Jarrett obviously thinks that the role of Congress is simply to
enforce the will of the President-bt enacting any aways he wants.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 08:49 AM (M+RRn)


That's the way it works in the authoritarian states they favor. The assembly is subservient to the will of the executive.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 08:52 AM (J+mig)

308 That reminds me, I've had the storm windows up since we had those nice couple weekends. Need to put them back down.

I don't miss the bleeding the radiators, but do miss not itching constantly because of how bad forced heat dries me out.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 05, 2016 08:52 AM (q/kmn)

309 "Just data mine the credit card companies for gun or ammo purchases."

I've been working on getting more guns privately, but the ammo purchases could really hang me up.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:52 AM (u5gzz)

310 305 So anyway I call BS on that Pentagon story.

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:50 AM (cbfNE)
====================

Maybe, but I wish it could be true. It'll save time in returning the military to being a fighting force.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:52 AM (TxJGV)

311 I don't know jack about this, but you probably do. How would I find a person who rents the equipment for me to finish an 80% lower? How much do they usually charge?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud,


Where do you live?

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (fBkaR)

312 I'm guessing Sen. Joe Manchin (Crapweasle-WV) will come out strongly against these measures and the damned fools that support him but hate gun control will be fooled again and continue supporting him. Because he intends to "stand up to Washington politicians" or some such BS.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (1BQGO)

313 Thin veneer indeed - the whole Hammond rancher thing is about a BLM land grab.

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (cbfNE)

314 299 Just data mine the credit card companies for gun or ammo purchases.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (Zu3d9)

I have NEVER bought a gun with a credit card.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (t2KH5)

315 " Currently in every other State in the union an individual can transfer a firearm to another individual w/o the government getting involved at all, as long as it is not a strawman purchase."


Not necessarily...


http://tinyurl.com/jc5b6c4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (ptqRm)

316 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (t2KH5)

Vic,

You are incorrect, and this kind of disinformation doesn't help.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (Zu3d9)

317 Where do you live?
Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (fBkaR)

Alabama.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (u5gzz)

318 Oh, Carol, my thoughts and prayers for your friend Gayle.
Lost my dad to cancer - it's the worst.
(((Hugs)))

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (cbfNE)

319 "I saw Don Henley on Austin City Limits recently and halfway through his
show he brought out two thirds of the Dixie Chicks to play a song with
him, and he moaned darkly about how they had been mistreated."

Oh, not this crap again.

They criticized Dubya and then suffered career implosion.

But it's not as though criticizing Dubya was something that would lead to them being blackballed within the perpetually leftist entertainment industry. How many booking agents are staunch Bush Republicans again?

And it's not as though when Dubya left office, he was held in high esteem by the generality of the American public. Rock bottom approval ratings. So disapproving of the widely disapproved guy shouldn't have messed up ticket sales either.

Maybe, just maybe, the Chicks were never that worthwhile a musical act.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (noWW6)

320 313 Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (cbfNE)

BLM and EPA have been playing the early versions of this game since the early 90s....

Lady Liberty is being gang-raped by unelected, unaccountable "civil servants" who act as the inside men for wild gangs of RICO worthy "NGO" activist groups....

and NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT IT IN THE GOP AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (g8Hfr)

321 HotGas has a photo up of Cankles that looks very much like "the Scream"

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (TxJGV)

322 Le NOOD dump

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:56 AM (ptqRm)

323 >> Switched to the Navy after that. Got tired of sleeping
>> in the mud and eating out of a can.

Where you drink mud, mess in a Can, and sh*t in a head. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 05, 2016 08:56 AM (sOhww)

324 315
" Currently in every other State in the union an individual can transfer
a firearm to another individual w/o the government getting involved at
all, as long as it is not a strawman purchase."





Not necessarily...





http://tinyurl.com/jc5b6c4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (ptqRm)

I guess I should have said every State that is not a hardcore blue State ruled by communists.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:56 AM (t2KH5)

325 316 You are incorrect, and this kind of disinformation doesn't help.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (Zu3d9)

It does help if you don't live in states like NJ and CA and other blue hells.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:58 AM (t2KH5)

326 Posted by: torquewrench at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (noWW6)

Well, it's more complicated than that, but you're broadly correct.

They didn't just criticize W; they did it on foreign soil.
They weren't just any kind of music group, they were a country music group (from Texas).
Their fans weren't just any fans, they were country music fans - who tend to be very patriotic by default.

So, yeah, they imploded because they did the worst possible thing they could have done for their career.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 08:58 AM (kff5f)

327 They criticized Dubya and then suffered career implosion.

But it's not as though criticizing Dubya was something that would lead to them being blackballed within the perpetually leftist entertainment industry. How many booking agents are staunch Bush Republicans again?

And it's not as though when Dubya left office, he was held in high esteem by the generality of the American public. Rock bottom approval ratings. So disapproving of the widely disapproved guy shouldn't have messed up ticket sales either.

Maybe, just maybe, the Chicks were never that worthwhile a musical act.



The Ditzy Chicks criticized the troops moreso than W.
You know, the troops with family members who were FANS.
Seems the fans weren't too keen on having THEIR family members dissed.
THAT'S where career implosion came from.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 08:59 AM (Yu4ah)

328 Cloyd - every shade tree mechanic in your county has the tools.

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 09:00 AM (fBkaR)

329 Dump is up

ala nood

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:00 AM (voOPb)

330 328 Cloyd - every shade tree mechanic in your county has the tools.
Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 09:00 AM (fBkaR)

Yeah, truth is I probably have the tools, too. Just not the know-how.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 09:01 AM (u5gzz)

331 Jim Geraghty has an article up clumsily decrying what he contends are "Doomsday Conservatives". He mainly focuses on election dynamics, and his point is DC's aren't persuading the rest of the electorate of their position and therefore shouldn't be supported. I believe there was probably a significant portion of the Conservative Party who didn't support Churchill coming to power in 1940 for similar reasons.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 09:04 AM (TxJGV)

332 Jarrett is on MSNBC basically stating that Obama has the power to unilaterally enact new gun laws because Congress won't.

It's been a while since my high school civics class but I'm pretty sure that isn't the way it was designed to work.




I unfriend you!

Posted by: Valjar at January 05, 2016 09:06 AM (evdj2)

333 In the end the tyranny of the leftoid alphabet heads is why unless and until one of the serious candidates starts talking about the Herculean task of cleaning the donkey shit out of the federal stalls nothing will change.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:49 AM (g8Hfr)


Exactly.

No one administration will accomplish it.

Posted by: Professor Kwanzaa Jamal Jones, PhD, Early African Gender Studies at January 05, 2016 09:22 AM (WWdgA)

334 Accept no substitutes: Chris Christie has that Trump-like flavor without being crude or jejune!




Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 08:13 AM (oVJmc)

jejune....should be banned from speech

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 05, 2016 09:36 AM (0O7c5)

335 No worries. I'm sure the rights leadership will quash this anti gun thingy. They stand up for the folks in times like these.

Posted by: ceraphym at January 05, 2016 10:10 AM (MAniv)

336 Currently in every other State in the union an individual can transfer a firearm to another individual w/o the government getting involved at all, as long as it is not a strawman purchase.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 08:48 AM (t2KH5)

Vic, not in Michigan. That only applies to long guns. Pistols require either a permit or a ccw to purchase,whether from an individual or a FFL holder. I believe that is also the requirements in many other states.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 05, 2016 10:23 AM (9t8XZ)

337 Robert Stigwood..sings "Feelin A Dead Feeling A Dead.." uh huh uh huh............

Posted by: saf at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (qKiBT)

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