Salon's Insufferable Interminable Trolling

On Christmas. I didn't post it on Christmas, because Christmas.

It's honestly sort of reassuring to know that Salon never misses a hateclickbait beat, even on Christmas Day. pic.twitter.com/4WnNTwtx29
— Jeff B@AoSHQDD (@EsotericCD) December 25, 2015

Meanwhile, this is a really good way to describe the counter-religion, from George Will.

Presidential campaigns inflate expectations that power wielded from government’s pinnacle will invigorate the nation. Thus campaigns demonstrate that creationists threaten the creative ferment that produces social improvement. Not religious creationists, who are mistaken but inconsequential. It is secular creationists whose social costs are steep.
"Secular theists" -- economist Don Boudreaux’s term -- produce governments gripped by the fatal conceit that they are wiser than society’s spontaneous experimental order. Such governments imposed order suffocates improvisation and innovation. Like religious creationists gazing upon biological complexity, secular theists assume that social complexity requires an intentional design imposed from on high by wise designers, a.k.a. them.

Man, that's spot on.

Quoted by Ed Driscoll at Instapundit.

I've been banging this drum for years: Religion is usually not opposed by a lack of religion, but instead by a counter-religion or anti-religion. However you term it, it's just another religion, however it might scream that it's "enlightened" and free of illogic, dogma, demons, and superstitions.

No, the anti-religion just has a different suite of illogic, dogma, demons, and superstitions.

They also have bent gods and demands for supplication of the Holy Failure.

George Galloway Retweeted This:

Yes. The "gentleman" running for mayor of London retweeted this @georgegalloway . Yes he's in his 60's. *sigh* pic.twitter.com/RNxqapdJvq
— Mikarov (@YMikarov) December 27, 2015

Posted by: Ace at 04:36 PM

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1 Hey Ace.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2015 03:26 PM (cygkw)

2 Glad you got that time machine workin'.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2015 03:26 PM (cygkw)

3 w00t

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:26 PM (d4uu4)

4 Dos?

Posted by: Weasel at December 27, 2015 03:27 PM (e3bId)

5 Damnit! Cinco!

Posted by: Weasel at December 27, 2015 03:27 PM (e3bId)

6 They have just replaced a higher being for a higher man

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2015 03:29 PM (C1Suc)

7 Ace posting on Sunday? In the middle of elbows?

Did somebody besides me get a coffee maker for Christmas?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:30 PM (LUgeY)

8 Loved this piece when I read it this morning. Says it way better than I've been trying to for years.

Posted by: Smaulz at December 27, 2015 03:32 PM (g+jFF)

9 yeah, an all powerful government intends to replace God. The founders specifically countered the king/pope tendency by recognizing man has inalienable rights granted by God that government can't take ... shall make no law regarding ... many things.

But ever since that ink dried the power hungry have tried to circumvent or rewrite it.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 03:33 PM (5Gpe2)

10 Ace on Sunday? Weird.

I can't seem to bear to give Salon a click. What does this teach young women?

Posted by: Lea at December 27, 2015 03:33 PM (FbLkA)

11
Did somebody besides me get a coffee maker for Christmas?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:30 PM (LUgeY)

Thermos, whisky stones, copper cocktail shaker, whisky wedge and rocks glass.

Someone's trying to tell me something.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 03:34 PM (OMTVG)

12 Galloway got run over by a reindeer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 03:34 PM (FkBIv)

13 Hey, Ace! Merry Christmas!!! xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2015 03:34 PM (EgOr3)

14 You know what, I really don't give a shit what George Will or the others in the "conservative commentariate industrial complex" have to say about anything.

We don't need people who can turn a good phrase we need people in the trenches who can fight and beat back the progressives.

They don't care about what the fuck George Will has to say about anything all they care about is arrogating more and more power to themselves.

George will is also a charter member of the, "this isn't who we are" club and a HUGE amnesty shill.

So again, George Will is a clown.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 27, 2015 03:34 PM (WVvzl)

15 >>>I can't seem to bear to give Salon a click. What does this teach young women?
Posted by: Lea at December 27, 2015 03:33 PM (FbLkA)

I'm not clicking it, either; since their premise is flawed, whatever follows that isn't worth reading. Right?

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:35 PM (d4uu4)

16 12-18 Miami-Colts, 5ish minutes left

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:36 PM (vjWed)

17 I guess I'll be the first to say:

Trump.

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:36 PM (d4uu4)

18 Sorry, wrong thread. I guess the score here was Ace 27, Salon 0

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:37 PM (vjWed)

19 I got a spinning bow tie for Christmas.

Posted by: George Will at December 27, 2015 03:37 PM (FkBIv)

20 12-18 Miami-Colts, 5ish minutes left

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:36 PM (vjWed)
So many surprise scores today!! Panthers, Detroit, Pitt, my personal boyz (looks like Gronk may save the day, though).

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2015 03:37 PM (EgOr3)

21 >>>Salon's Insufferable Interminable Trolling

I wonder if it's "trolling," since they're presumably not trying to lure in anyone like us. They're preaching to their choir. But then they always are.

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:38 PM (d4uu4)

22 I've been banging this drum for years: Religion is usually not opposed by a lack of religion, but instead by a counter-religion or anti-religion. However you term it, it's just another religion, however it might scream that it's "enlightened" and free of illogic, dogma, demons, and superstitions.

Whoever it was who said AGW was a religion was spot on.

From what I've seen, all the false religions that people have set up seek to place Man in God's Rightful Place. That's what we in the engineering field describe as "being designed to fail." Code monkeys have a different descriptor: GIGO. If the premise is flawed or just plain wrong from the beginning, anything that follows is doomed to failure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:39 PM (LUgeY)

23 "The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" - heh.

I won;t read it, but man, that's reaching.
Especially after lecturing us for weeks that the Syrian refugees are just like Mary and Joseph!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 03:40 PM (NOIQH)

24 Tweet tweet tweet! I love twittr!

Posted by: Th Pirate Woh Does Nothing at December 27, 2015 03:40 PM (s6/4z)

25 >>>Thermos, whisky stones, copper cocktail shaker, whisky wedge and rocks glass.Someone's trying to tell me something.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 03:34 PM (OMTVG)

I got three bottles of wine : )

I'm having a post Christmas Cary grant marathon now...love Cary grant!

Wonder what 'my favorite wife' would teach us? At the very least, Cary could wear a suit.

Posted by: Lea at December 27, 2015 03:40 PM (FbLkA)

26 I can guess exactly what the Saloon article says without reading it. Heck, I could probably write one just based on the headline, and get 99% correspondence with the original.

So, no need to send extra traffic their way.

Posted by: SJW at December 27, 2015 03:41 PM (B3EeS)

27 jinx

>>>since their premise is flawed, whatever follows that isn't worth reading. Right?
Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:35 PM (d4uu4)

>>>If the premise is flawed or just plain wrong from the beginning, anything that follows is doomed to failure.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:39 PM (LUgeY)

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:41 PM (d4uu4)

28 Are we in a time warp?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 27, 2015 03:41 PM (PMlgt)

29 Condensed to short form: All liberals are assholes who long to be an absolute dictator. They hate freedom in any form.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 03:41 PM (t2KH5)

30 I missed the bit where Mary and Joseph were planning a mass crossbowing at the Circus.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:42 PM (vjWed)

31 George Galloway - didn't he lose his last election to a Paki or some other born Muslim (vs. him being a convert)? That's the thanks you get for being a pandering dhimmi, I guess.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 03:42 PM (NOIQH)

32 Santa doesn't need the proper papers when he sticks to chimneys.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Fritz at December 27, 2015 03:42 PM (BngQR)

33
Let me guess. Will actually thinks that leftists CARE about the results of their destructive tendencies. Nothing they do indicates ANY thought given to what comes afterwards.

Destruction is the point. That's why leftists are so enamored of jihadis and the fucking mohammedans. They have a love of destruction in common. The difference is, mohammedans actually have a plan for what comes afterwards. Leftists just want a chance to point a pistol at the back of kneeling Kulak's neck, especially if it isn't metaphoric but literal.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 03:44 PM (OMTVG)

34 Eve was the first deceived away from independence and freedom, by the devil saying she could break fundamental guidelines set by God (not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil). Devil said you shall not surely die, you shall be as God ... knowing all.

Then Adam sold out intentionally, to be with her I guess. Somewhere in there is a message about liberty coming with responsibility. When "the devil" tells us he/they will give us power, and we'll get something for nothing (welfare, early retirement and a golden pension), we have sold out to "another god".

But the Democrat zealots have no problem making their PC religion the law of the land, so get off your high horse and stop with the hate speech. Accept the diversity hires screwing things up ... with a smile.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 03:45 PM (5Gpe2)

35 9
yeah, an all powerful government intends to replace God. The founders
specifically countered the king/pope tendency by recognizing man has
inalienable rights granted by God that government can't take ... shall
make no law regarding ... many things.

But ever since that ink dried the power hungry have tried to circumvent or rewrite it.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 03:33 PM (5Gpe2)

You have to keep in mind that when the founders wrote the bill of rights and had them ratified they only applied to the federal government. There was no such thing as freedom from religion. In fact, many States like MA, still had government churches that were supported by mandatory taxes. I think SC did too but I can't verify that because someone borrowed my expensive SC History book (college text used at Woford and USC) and they never returned it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 03:46 PM (t2KH5)

36 mohammedans actually have a plan for what comes afterwards

Al-Qaeda / Nusra might.

ISIS really doesn't. ISIS seek the final battle at Dabiq. They have a state and don't know what to do with it, other than "evil".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:46 PM (vjWed)

37 Oops, Galloway won his last election in 2012, got in with strong Muslim support.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 03:47 PM (NOIQH)

38 I have a great idea for ace and all of the other conservative minded sites:
Ignore Salon in 2016. They thrive on controversial bullshit stories like this because they know certain sites will write about them, share the link, people click on it, and they get site hits which is all they want.

Ignore them. Don't repost any of their shit.

Posted by: Hamilton at December 27, 2015 03:48 PM (4djZu)

39 When they shot Santa was he carrying a gift for Clockboy?

Posted by: Willy J. at December 27, 2015 03:49 PM (wHX4r)

40 A book I liked, although that is something of a minority opinion, is Explaining Hitler by Rosenbaum. One reason it was not more popular is that regardless of what you believe, something in that book will deeply offend you. For example, one interviewee argued that the Holocaust was caused by Christianity in that the entire religion is based upon the tortuous death of a Jew.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 03:50 PM (Nwg0u)

41 Yeah, but one must admit that George Will is a very articulate GOPer.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade at December 27, 2015 03:50 PM (cmBvC)

42 What Vic said, although MA itself did disestablish its church in 1833.

A lot of the secular stuff really kicked in during the late 1800s. The Blaine Amendments, particularly. Some of it was reaction to the LDS in Utah territory. A lot of it was anti-Catholicism ("we won't take the Irish!").

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 03:50 PM (vjWed)

43 good point Vic, and I think some even required church attendance early on. But it seems they each wanted their own version of Protestantism, and saw the problem of government (in this case "BigGov" was the thirteen colonies) mandating from above.

I haven't read all the details though. Certainly they were not in favor of the separation like the left insists on today.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 03:51 PM (5Gpe2)

44 About the Galloway tweet, was it a hoax? Some Pali dressing up and attacking Israelis?

Posted by: St Arius at December 27, 2015 03:51 PM (B3EeS)

45 So George Galloway would fit in here?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 03:52 PM (voOPb)

46 Salon watched that Family Guy Christmas episode and thought it was a documentary??

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 27, 2015 03:53 PM (JCSGM)

47 Condensed to short form: All liberals are assholes who long to be an absolute dictator. They hate freedom in any form.

That would be a very good question to start axing leftards: "What is it about freedom that scares you?"

Naturally, they'll give some sort of BS answer about loving freedom or something. Then you ax, "Then why is your solution to everything always more government, more laws and more taxes?"

I guarantee you that you won't get a straight answer back from that one. Spittle perhaps, but not a good answer.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:54 PM (LUgeY)

48 Oops, Galloway won his last election in 2012, got in with strong Muslim support.
Posted by: Lizzy

Galloway was defeated at the 2015 general election, after a campaign in which he was accused of making false statements about the Labour candidate, Naz Shah, and was reported to the police for allegedly breaking election law

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 03:54 PM (FkBIv)

49 47 I guarantee you that you won't get a straight answer back from that one. Spittle perhaps, but not a good answer.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 03:54 PM (LUgeY)

If they are anything like my SIL they will just spew what every the current Democrap talking point is whether it is relevant or not and in most cases just another lie.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 03:56 PM (t2KH5)

50 But ever since that ink dried the power hungry have tried to circumvent or rewrite it.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 03:33 PM (5Gpe2)

'Tried'? Seems to me the power-hungry have been circumventing it like crazy lately.

The whole idea of a Hillary Clinton White House gives me chills. That old witch is almost Disney villain cartoony, a caricature of a real human being. In fairness, I get the same cartoony vibe from Trump, minus the crazy, cackling evil.

Posted by: troyriser at December 27, 2015 03:57 PM (Au69S)

51 Good to see the IDF still takes their marksmanship training seriously.

Yuseef Santa Imam better learn to keep his head down.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 27, 2015 03:58 PM (ej1L0)

52 Well written observations BB

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 03:58 PM (voOPb)

53 That would be a very good question to start axing leftards: "What is it about freedom that scares you?"

The traditional commie response is "what is freedom to a man with an empty belly?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 03:58 PM (FkBIv)

54 About the Galloway tweet, was it a hoax? Some Pali dressing up and attacking Israelis?
Posted by: St Arius

A bunch of palis dressed up in santa suits and threw a riot to provoke soldiers as usual.

That fucker there is probably doing the patented Vlade Divac flop for the cameras.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2015 04:00 PM (9YDUz)

55
The whole idea of a Hillary Clinton White House gives me chills. That
old witch is almost Disney villain cartoony, a caricature of a real
human being.

Hillary DeVil: What kind of sycophant are you??

The MFM: What kind of sycophant would you like me to be?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 04:00 PM (OMTVG)

56 Jets win. NGU is full of happiness until tomorrow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 04:01 PM (voOPb)

57 If Salon had a sports section;

"How to Talk About fWAR & bWAR at Christmas Dinner to Your Crazy Uncle Who Talks Batting Average and RBI's"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2015 04:02 PM (GrXXa)

58 one interviewee argued that the Holocaust was caused by Christianity in that the entire religion is based upon the tortuous death of a Jew

Yeah, everything that guy said was bullshit.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:03 PM (vjWed)

59 The problem is that FDR stacked the courts with his four terms and cowed them with his attempt to change the number of justices. We have never recovered from that. The courts basically rewrote the Constitution in the 60s through the 80s.

This is why I want an Art V convention. Despite whatever some of the naysayers tootle about nothing could be worse than what we have now. We MUST rewrite the portion about the Supreme and Federal courts. Since they have made the courts a political body instead of a court I want one justice from each State appointed by the State. I want control of the courts OUT of DC since that in itself is a conflict of interest. And BTW, Marshall who wa the author of that made up despicable crap about them being the sole interpreter was not only a liar, but he was also a major criminal involved in illegal land deals and speculation in GA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 04:03 PM (t2KH5)

60 Well written observations BB

Thanx, MisHu.

What's truly sad is that that sentiment isn't more widely shared. That's why I gave up on my little crapblog: no one seems to care about freedom anymore, probably because they aren't taught or told about it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 04:03 PM (LUgeY)

61
That fucker there is probably doing the patented Vlade Divac flop for the cameras.

Brazilian Soccer player flop.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 04:03 PM (OMTVG)

62 Valerie Tarico is one of John Loftus' Debunking Christianity crew. Third tier attention whoring atheists, the lot of them.

They are not true atheists.

Posted by: Richard Dawkins at December 27, 2015 04:05 PM (B3EeS)

63 This is why I want an Art V convention.

Knock down drag out ONT fight.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 04:06 PM (FkBIv)

64 >>>In fairness, I get the same cartoony vibe from Trump, minus the crazy, cackling evil.
Posted by: troyriser at December 27, 2015 03:57 PM (Au69S)

I use antlers in all of my decorating...

Posted by: Lea at December 27, 2015 04:06 PM (FbLkA)

65 >>That
old witch is almost Disney villain cartoony, a caricature of a real

human being.

That's a really good description of her - she *is* just like a Disney villain, all vanity, ambition, and greed, yet can't quite pull off her master plan.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

66 What kind of coat would Hillary DeVil wear?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 04:08 PM (FkBIv)

67 They are not true atheists.
Posted by: Richard Dawkins

You mean, "posted by: ace". That's kind of the point of the original post, that these "atheists" are believers in Progress or History or Social Justice or even Reason, abstract ideals reified into goddesses.

Dawkins himself seems more internally-consistent in that he'll go after the Mozlems and smack back at the SJWs.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:08 PM (vjWed)

68 66
What kind of coat would Hillary DeVil wear?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 04:08 PM (FkBIv)

I would pay money to see her in an iron maiden coat.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (t2KH5)

69 Yeah, last night's ONT wasn't for the faint of heart.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (vjWed)

70
This is why I want an Art V convention.

Knock down drag out ONT fight.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 04:06 PM (FkBIv)

Can we warm up with Hipster Slapfight?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (OMTVG)

71 Is the Danger in the Dirt Bull riding show on after the Jets Patriots game an infomercial about Hillary?

Posted by: Willy J. at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (wHX4r)

72 >>>That fucker there is probably doing the patented Vlade Divac flop for the cameras.<<<

Point of order here; Detroit Piston Bill Lambeer pioneered the modern NBA flop to near perfection.

Posted by: Fritz at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (BngQR)

73 BB I've watched large segments of 2 democrat debates this year. I don't recall any of those candidates including Jim Webb mention the word freedom

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 04:10 PM (voOPb)

74 @54 so, a hoax then.

Thanks from sparing me the need to read it. These people have cried wolf too often. I think only they believe their lies at this point.

Posted by: St. Arius at December 27, 2015 04:11 PM (B3EeS)

75 I would pay money to see her in an iron maiden coat.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Excellent!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 04:11 PM (FkBIv)

76 >>>73 I've watched large segments of 2 democrat debates this year.

Bless you.

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 04:12 PM (d4uu4)

77 BB I've watched large segments of 2 democrat debates this year. I don't recall any of those candidates including Jim Webb mention the word freedom

You're a better man than I.

There's a reason why the word is never mentioned.

OK Hordelings, I feel the need for beer. BBL.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 27, 2015 04:12 PM (LUgeY)

78
The "gentleman" running for mayor of London also put on a unitard and mewed like a kitten and got on his hands and knees and lapped milk out of a saucer on national television.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:13 PM (iQIUe)

79 What kind of coat would Hillary DeVil wear?

-
I don't know but her yoga postures are crouching warthog, lying weasel.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 04:14 PM (Nwg0u)

80 I would pay money to see her in an iron maiden coat.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Her scales are stronger than the spikes, though.

Posted by: Moh at December 27, 2015 04:14 PM (B3EeS)

81 >> I got a spinning bow tie for Christmas.
Posted by: George Will

Loser.
I got a spinning hooker.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 27, 2015 04:14 PM (c7vUv)

82 put on a unitard and mewed like a kitten and got on his hands and knees and lapped milk out of a saucer on national television

I'm pretty sure that at least some of our male morons have been on dates that ended up that way.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:15 PM (vjWed)

83 The "dark" message the Bible teaches about Mary is that her faith in God, Who also happened to be her Son, was the foundation of the earthly church that Jesus created by his life and death and resurrection.

Yeah, that's really dark.

There is a reason why every miraculous sighting of Mary the Catholic Church certified is real is when she appears and says words to the effect of: "Do whatever He tells you."

I'm not reading the article but I suppose they argue that she should have aborted Jesus, since religious wars involving Christians have cost so many lives over the last 2000 years.

And don't forget the Crusades!

Slate is just another mouthpiece for Satan as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 27, 2015 04:15 PM (QWtgr)

84 George Will...hmmm, that name sounds familiar. Oh yeah, just a couple of days ago he announced he would vote for Hillary over Trump.

Seems like he's chasing a few of his own pet demons, saying "Here, hold my leash."

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 27, 2015 04:16 PM (gyKtp)

85 If the left really wanted diversity, imagine the 50 states, if each had retained the powers not specifically granted to DC. Instead the federales use coercive withholding of funds to get obedience from states on issue after issue ... From national speed limits to gay marriage to Obamacare.

Taxation without representation, in that those taxes are not taken just to be withheld pending compliance of the states to federal mandates ... but then the IRS is above the law now, and weaponized.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 04:16 PM (5Gpe2)

86 From the EMT:

The only thing that should go in good bourbon is ice and a lot of people say not even that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 27, 2015 06:19 AM (t2KH5)

Put the bourbon in the freezer. Best when done in summer time.

Posted by: tbodie at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (EMrMF)

87 ONT wasn't for the faint of heart.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:09 PM (vjWed)

What happened? I fell asleep

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (voOPb)

88 >>I've watched large segments of 2 democrat debates this year. I don't
recall any of those candidates including Jim Webb mention the word
freedom

They know their demographic well, then. If anything that's more respectable than GOP candidates having to pretend to support something resembling freedom.

Posted by: a phoenician sailor at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (7Cte4)

89 Point of order here; Detroit Piston Bill Lambeer pioneered the modern NBA flop to near perfection.

Posted by: Fritz
****

What he lacked in talent he made up for in thuggery and dirty play.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (hVdx9)

90
OK, couldn't get a bite earlier.

Anyone heard from rickb223 (and maybe others) after the nasty storms in DFW last night?

Last ONT contact said he was in the path of the Bonham tornado...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (4DCSq)

91 >> I got a spinning bow tie for Christmas.
Posted by: George Will

Loser.
I got a spinning hooker.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 27, 2015 04:14 PM (c7vUv)

Let me explain. You grew up in Hot Spring, Arkysaw, so you learned to be liberal and happy, with hookers and blow as your companions.

I grew up in Downersville, Illinois, so I learned to be a Cubs fan, a morose Gopey type Republican, and learned to place strange objects up my rectum.

Go Cubs!

Posted by: George Willingly at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (Dj0WE)

92 I'm pretty sure that at least some of our male morons have been on dates that ended up that way.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:15 PM (vjWed)
========

Oh, I dont think so!

George Galloway the cat incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJrWFoq2GIQ

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:18 PM (iQIUe)

93 The stupid Steelers are stupid. Stupid retarded monkeys. They deserve missing the playoffs this season. Stupid stupid bastards. grumblegrumblegrumbel

Maybe its my mood but I'm still laughing at that Santa pic above.

"The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" is that God sent his only Son to deliver the World from sin. I can see why thats "problematic" for the Left. They would have to admit to Sin.

Posted by: , grumbling Steelers fan at December 27, 2015 04:18 PM (JCSGM)

94 Woohoo! I won Powerball! $4 for matching the powerball. Miracles DO happen!

Posted by: t-bird at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (Z58Xa)

95 I grew up in Downersville, Illinois, so I learned to be a Cubs fan, a morose Gopey type Republican, and learned to place strange objects up my rectum.

Go Cubs!

Posted by: George Willingly
****

Awww jeez. Now I know how you "lost" my cell phone.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (hVdx9)

96 You always hear how these brit politicians are freaky, well here's proof.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (iQIUe)

97 unitard and mewed like a kitten and got on his hands and knees and lapped milk out of a saucer on national television.

-
I believe the proper term is "Unitardian".

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (Nwg0u)

98 I remember that War On Terror debate between Galloway and Hitchens. It was surreal. Although Hitchens did win.

Ol' Chris is probably in Hell now, but the demons do smuggle him liquor from Heaven

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 04:22 PM (vjWed)

99 I grew up in Downersville, Illinois, so I learned to be a Cubs fan, a morose Gopey type Republican, and learned to place strange objects up my rectum.

Go Cubs!

Posted by: George Willingly
****

Awww jeez. Now I know how you "lost" my cell phone.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (hVdx9)

It's alright. Your ringer is on vibrate, and I hold all your calls.

Posted by: George Willingly at December 27, 2015 04:22 PM (Dj0WE)

100 94 Woohoo! I won Powerball! $4 for matching the powerball. Miracles DO happen!
Posted by: t-bird at December 27, 2015 04:20 PM (Z58Xa)

=========

Forget it! I won 10 bucks and another 4 on the state lotto. I also picked up a roll of scratchers someone discared bc they always screw up and miss one. So, I won another 5 bucks! No, you cant rub my head.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:22 PM (iQIUe)

101 "The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" is that God sent his only Son to deliver the World from sin. I can see why thats "problematic" for the Left. They would have to admit to Sin.

Posted by: , grumbling Steelers fan
****

God is a misogynist! (Derp)

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:23 PM (hVdx9)

102 Alls I know is the boys of the NYPD Choir are NOT singing Galloway Bay.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 04:23 PM (Dj0WE)

103 Hey, guys. I know you haven't been getting particularly good results despite killing your children in huge numbers, but can you please keep trying? For me, guys? It would mean a lot. *bats eyelashes*

Posted by: Moloch at December 27, 2015 04:24 PM (k9qR4)

104 78
The "gentleman" running for mayor of London also put on a unitard and mewed like a kitten and got on his hands and knees and lapped milk out of a saucer on national television.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:13 PM (iQIUe)
---
Wait, what??

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at December 27, 2015 04:24 PM (jR7Wy)

105 Ace posted this six minutes from n

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:24 PM (kpqmD)

106 It's alright. Your ringer is on vibrate, and I hold all your calls.

Posted by: George Willingly
****

You can keep it. Good luck charging it.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:24 PM (hVdx9)

107 Could you imagine Ace in a unitard?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:25 PM (iQIUe)

108 What the hell? Lets try that again.

Ace posted this six minutes from now. Mind. Blown.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:25 PM (kpqmD)

109 107 Could you imagine Ace in a unitard?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:25 PM (iQIUe)
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Too furry.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at December 27, 2015 04:25 PM (jR7Wy)

110 Make that 11 minutes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:26 PM (kpqmD)

111 Are we in a time warp?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 27, 2015 03:41 PM

Again?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2015 04:26 PM (pLwjI)

112 I wonder if it's "trolling," since they're
presumably not trying to lure in anyone like us. They're preaching to
their choir. But then they always are.

Posted by: m at December 27, 2015 03:38 PM

Haven't read a word published in Salon for years -- after an unpleasant experience with them unrelated to politics -- but I doubt it's any worse than Tepid Air's interminable, insufferable attacks on Trump, whom Poppin' Fresh must hate with the kind of purple passion rare among civilized humans.

Funny thing: they (both Salon and the Witches of Salem) still get plenty o' clicks....

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 27, 2015 04:26 PM (z/vax)

113 93: off incomplete name

Well, off to undisclosed location and ponder the failure that are the Steelers. Stupid stupid Steelers. I'll post from the Labyrinth later, wasting valuable tax payer dollars and resources posting stupid shit here. You welcome!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, grumbling Steelers fan at December 27, 2015 04:26 PM (JCSGM)

114 Oh well, time to go root for A. A. Ron Donald to rip Russ Wilson's leg off.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 04:26 PM (Dj0WE)

115 107- Could you imagine Ace in a unitard and holding a pistol?

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2015 04:27 PM (C1Suc)

116 "The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" is that God sent his only Son
to deliver the World from sin. I can see why thats "problematic" for the
Left. They would have to admit to Sin.
---
Those who lived in darkness hated the Light...

I'm sure you know the rest

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 04:27 PM (ZbV+0)

117 Listen. Ace has become unstuck in time.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 04:28 PM (Nwg0u)

118 >>"The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" is that God sent his only Son
to deliver the World from sin. I can see why thats "problematic" for the
Left. They would have to admit to Sin.

Bingo!
I'm guessing it also has to do with burdening a young, unwed woman with a baby --- must mean God hates women, amiright!? How could Mary follow her dreams, be all sex-positive and whatnot when shackled by the patriarchy (a baby and a husband!) at such a tender age?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 04:28 PM (NOIQH)

119 Dawkins himself seems more internally-consistent in that he'll go after the Mozlems and smack back at the SJWs.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

A few years ago, some really wacky atheists from P Z Myers' freethoughtblogs tried to launch anew movement, "Atheism+". Of course what differentiated atheism+ from plain vanilla atheism had nothing to do with believing no gods exist. Rather, it required you to sign on to a standard liberal SJW platform with regards to sexuality, environment, abortion, etc. Stuff that should be up for debate even if you don't believe in the supernatural.

And they wanted to shut down the discussion by proclaiming their Westminster Confession of Filth and appending a '+' to their denomination. Pretentious stupidity.

Posted by: Richard Dawkins at December 27, 2015 04:29 PM (B3EeS)

120 What happened? I fell asleep
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
--------------------
When I woke up in the middle of the night, I saw certain regular that is not affiliated with any party trying to make new friends by insulting everyone that disagreed with him. SSDD.

Hope you had a good Christmas, btw.

Not complaining, just curious - but, is CBD around to feed us a food thread today? Or did ace shove in in the time machine?

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:29 PM (mUsVF)

121 My time warp only happen when I'm writing in the comment block and it's the only thing on the screen, nothing else. So far everything I write does make it onto a thread even if it's five minutes later.

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2015 04:30 PM (C1Suc)

122 Listen. Ace has become unstuck in time.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 04:28 PM

It's a bitch. Believe you me.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim at December 27, 2015 04:30 PM (pLwjI)

123
They don't make unitards in Ewok sizes. You have to get the Jawa size and then make some alterations.

Available on Amazon Prime.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 27, 2015 04:31 PM (OMTVG)

124 There are no true atheists. There is only Zuul.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 27, 2015 04:31 PM (Nwg0u)

125 >>The "gentleman" running for mayor of London also put on a unitard and mewed like a kitten and got on his hands and knees and lapped milk out of a saucer on national television.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:13 PM (iQIUe)
---
Wait, what??
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

I got the cat fucker vote.

Posted by: Curious George at December 27, 2015 04:31 PM (c7vUv)

126 To say that religious creationists are "mistaken, but inconsequential" is a fallacy in logic. We will find out if they (and I) are mistaken when we die.

Posted by: John F Not Kerry (@jfd1965onTwitter) at December 27, 2015 04:32 PM (7EATr)

127 Thanks Chi

Mine was ok. Hope yours was good.

Yeah, we want food!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 27, 2015 04:33 PM (voOPb)

128 >>Rather, it required you to sign on to a standard liberal SJW platform
with regards to sexuality, environment, abortion, etc. Stuff that should
be up for debate even if you don't believe in the supernatural.

Ah, I recall a scandal a few years ago when a sassy atheist blogger gal felt sexually harassed at an atheist convention (more like failed, drunken pick-up attempt in an elevator) and how gropey and pervey they get at these sorts of atheist shindigs.[Insert Instapundit's line about chivalry here]

Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 04:34 PM (NOIQH)

129 BurtTC:

What's the basis of the R. Wilson hatred? I ask sincerely.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 27, 2015 04:37 PM (QWtgr)

130 Posted by: Lizzy at December 27, 2015 04:34 PM

Lots of conventions are like that. Large groups of nerds and lots of alcohol produces interesting results.

Posted by: a phoenician sailor at December 27, 2015 04:38 PM (7Cte4)

131 When I woke up in the middle of the night, I saw
certain regular that is not affiliated with any party trying to make new
friends by insulting everyone that disagreed with him. SSDD.

...

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:29 PM (mUsVF)

I know what you mean...I saw the back and forth, and not for the first time, or even the 20th time, thought WTF is his deal?

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 27, 2015 04:38 PM (szEUw)

132 44
About the Galloway tweet, was it a hoax? Some Pali dressing up and attacking Israelis?

Posted by: St Arius

They're slipping. There should have been a stroller and new toys strategically positioned around him, with a few blood spatters for realism.

Posted by: pep at December 27, 2015 04:40 PM (LAe3v)

133 They don't make unitards in Ewok sizes.

Of course they do . . . you just have to order the "extra-hairy" fit.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2015 04:40 PM (EgOr3)

134 Posted by: Sharkman at December 27, 2015 04:37 PM (QWtgr)

Het the one who moniters HQ comments to be sjre they are sufficiently nice to him (thus the spoonerism of his name) and got a post of Weird Dave's memory holed for fisking a stupid statement he'd made.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:40 PM (GDulk)

135 23
"The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" - heh.

I won;t read it, but man, that's reaching.

I'm kind of surprised that the three wise men weren't portrayed as a pimp, a pusher and a gangbanger.

Posted by: pep at December 27, 2015 04:42 PM (LAe3v)

136 I'm kind of surprised that the three wise men weren't portrayed as a pimp, a pusher and a gangbanger.

Posted by: pep at December 27, 2015 04:42 PM (LAe3v)
wait for it . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2015 04:42 PM (EgOr3)

137 I know what you mean...I saw the back and forth, and not for the first time, or even the 20th time, thought WTF is his deal?

Posted by: Sixkiller
****

Not sure if alcohol was involved, but at one point he made a comment about me pulling the lever for Bernie.
Mainly, it's just his ego. He seems to think he is some kind of "soldier" fighting the good fight while others have surrendered. He views the "quitters" with contempt while elevating himself above them.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:42 PM (hVdx9)

138 Most atheists are irrational nutjobs.

Posted by: Robert M Price at December 27, 2015 04:43 PM (B3EeS)

139 Posted by: Sixkiller at December 27, 2015 04:38 PM (szEUw)

I've been getting to sleep a lot earlier now that I know I'll be happier if I skip the ONT, so there's that I guess. I hate it when my virtual family fights, but some people find an argument stimulating.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:43 PM (GDulk)

140 Mine was ok. Hope yours was good.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
----------------------
It was nice to see my sisters, nieces &nephews.

My brother, who lives in Mom's basement, really showed his ass (as usual) and almost got his ass kicked. again. The sad part is that it stresses Mom out so badly. She may have saved his life.
When he went back down into his Ogre Hole, he turned on the stereo so loud you could hear it a block away. Meanwhile, the whole family is enjoying each others' company in the LR, while my sis's husband tried to rest (chemo is really kicking his ass).

Meh. It's life...

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:43 PM (mUsVF)

141 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:40 PM (GDulk)

Different R. Wilson. They're talking about Russ, not Rick.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:44 PM (kpqmD)

142 What he lacked in talent he made up for in thuggery and dirty play.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:17 PM (hVdx9)

That could be said about a lot of professional athletes, past and present. Tony Galento, a notorious heavyweight contender in the Thirties, only had one certifiably clean fight in his career (a loss against Joe Louis). When asked about the thumbing and gouging and heeling, the low blows and rabbit punches, the then-retired Galento shrugged it off. Part of the game, he said. I wasn't no amateur.

True then, true now. Wherever there's lots of money involved, there'll always be backroom money men around to put in the fix.

As an aside, Galento had a lot of heart and a world-class left hook. Watch the Louis fight and you'll see what I mean.

Posted by: troyriser at December 27, 2015 04:44 PM (Au69S)

143
Test.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 27, 2015 04:45 PM (RcpcZ)

144
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:42 PM (hVdx9)

I don't think it was the alcohol talking...that seems to be his default tone.

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 27, 2015 04:45 PM (szEUw)

145 Can't decide if AutoCucumber or fat fingering is worse. Makes me look illiterate either way.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:45 PM (GDulk)

146

Hey! Stop it you guys! Hey!

Posted by: George Will - Getting Pantsed and Shoved into the Girl's Bathroom

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 27, 2015 04:46 PM (kdS6q)

147 AutoCucumber or fat fingering

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:47 PM (kpqmD)

148 Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:44 PM (kpqmD)

Ah, not sure who that even is. Neeeehver mind then.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:47 PM (GDulk)

149 BurtTC:

What's the basis of the R. Wilson hatred? I ask sincerely.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 27, 2015 04:37 PM (QWtgr)

I don't hate anybody. He's a smug prima donna, but then so is virtually every NFL QB. He's definitely overrated. They say he's playing really well now, but the gushing gets tiresome. It's a black QB thing, which I will never understand.

Besides, if all of Seattle were to fall into the ocean, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 04:47 PM (Dj0WE)

150 I've been getting to sleep a lot earlier now that I
know I'll be happier if I skip the ONT, so there's that I guess. I hate
it when my virtual family fights, but some people find an argument
stimulating.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:43 PM (GDulk)

Arguments are gonna happen; in general, not a big deal. But when you resort to demeaning insults immediately...well, that's just ridiculous. You can have a difference of opinion without the name calling.

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 27, 2015 04:48 PM (szEUw)

151 Alcohol or not, the dude is just a dick. He knows it, and he thrives on being one.

That said, I'm out until I see a food thread, or maybe even for a couple days...
Be well, horde.

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:49 PM (mUsVF)

152 Oh, and Chris Meyers might just be the single worst football announcer on tv.

He's not even that old, so you can't blame it on dementia.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 04:49 PM (Dj0WE)

153
Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:49 PM (mUsVF)

Take care Chi. I don't see you as often as I used to...

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 27, 2015 04:50 PM (szEUw)

154
Ace is as smooth as a baby's bottom, h8ters!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 27, 2015 04:50 PM (iQIUe)

155 I don't think it was the alcohol talking...that seems to be his default tone.

Posted by: Sixkiller
****

Well, he certainly was a**holier than thou.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 04:51 PM (hVdx9)

156 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 04:40 PM (GDulk)

Different R. Wilson. They're talking about Russ, not Rick.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 27, 2015 04:44 PM (kpqmD)

Heh... yeah, Russell, not Rick. Even I will acknowledge, Russ has SOME talent and and adds some amount of value to this world.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 04:52 PM (Dj0WE)

157 Sixkiller,
I am just SO over politics. Or the infighting that i see daily.
I tend towards the bluer side of "happiness" anyway, and to be honest, this place just isn't very much fun anymore.
I'd rather talk/learn about cars, or food, or just disappear for awhile.
But I've been around under a couple different names the last few months hit & miss.

Take care.

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2015 04:55 PM (mUsVF)

158 >>> Especially after lecturing us for weeks that the Syrian refugees are just like Mary and Joseph!!

Mary and Joseph were burdened by the whim of an overly powerful central government that didn't consider the consequences of its regulations.

They fled to Egypt to save Jesus from the tyranny of a local bureacracy.

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2015 04:55 PM (AfsKp)

159 BurtTC:

With all due respect, I believe you are wrong in every respect about RW, but I respect your opinion.

When I am drowning as Seattle sinks into the sea I'll be sure to toss a prayer your way, for your immortal soul.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 27, 2015 04:58 PM (QWtgr)

160 Ah, I recall a scandal a few years ago when a sassy atheist blogger gal felt sexually harassed at an atheist convention (more like failed, drunken pick-up attempt in an elevator) and how gropey and pervey they get at these sorts of atheist shindigs.[Insert Instapundit's line about chivalry here]
Posted by: Lizzy

Heh, YES! Elevator gate. Rebecca Watson got asked at 4:30 am in an elevator by a male atheist attending the convention if she'd like to come to his place for a coffee.

Creepy to be sure, but she declined and went her way, no assault or anything.

But then she freaked out and demanded that men not be allowed to as out women at these conventions, kind of like safe spaces, complete with signs.

Dawk suggested she was overreacting, and published his Dear Muslima satire to show what real oppression was like.

This triggered a great atheist schism. An acrimonious carnage between atheist pajama people that provided muchamusement to schadenfreude cconnoisseurs across the globe.

Posted by: Richard Dawkins at December 27, 2015 05:03 PM (B3EeS)

161 >>>>
This triggered a great atheist schism. An acrimonious carnage between atheist pajama people that provided muchamusement to schadenfreude cconnoisseurs across the globe.
----

And then the sea otters learned to talk. And all hell broke loose.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2015 05:06 PM (qabgA)

162 Food thread!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2015 05:07 PM (GDulk)

163 Well,, sort of OT- I went to an Episcopal Service today mainly for the choir music which was very nice, but there was actually an Orthodox sounding priest. I had no complaints with his message which consisted mainly of "If Jesus is Lord, the Federal Government is not Lord, the stock market is not Lord, the economy is not Lord and that the only the only one we can surrender to and be given all is Jesus-God incarnate in the flesh-that the only life which matters is a great and enduring love which is given to us through the Holy Spirit A beautifull service,. lovely prayers, stirring music and Holy communion in a lovely setting. Thanks, God!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2015 05:22 PM (qES5k)

164 And the rare times I've read Salon I've immediately regretted it. I have no desire to read what people who probably aren't religious and demean everything about the Bible and Christianity have to say about the story of Mary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2015 05:26 PM (qES5k)

165 Actually since I have never seen a picture of Ace I pretty much picture him as Sean Connery in the character of Zed

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2015 05:32 PM (C1Suc)

166 116
"The Dark Subtext of the Nativity Scene" is that God sent his only Son

to deliver the World from sin. I can see why thats "problematic" for the

Left. They would have to admit to Sin.
---
Those who lived in darkness hated the Light...

I'm sure you know the rest

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 04:27 PM (ZbV+0)

^^ this. Casting pearls before swine comes to mind, but this is a season for love.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 27, 2015 05:41 PM (x4r6A)

167 And yes, Salon honey, Jesus' birth is worth celebrating.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2015 05:48 PM (qES5k)

168 I went to an atheism shindig back before it went all "atheism plus". It wasn't so Leftist then. A few of the speakers were protoSJWs but the attendees were mainly not. Lots of heavy-metal fans, I noticed.

Politically-incorrect comments were made but the womenfolk took them in stride (as did the menfolk). It was universally accepted that if you were going to espouse an offensive opinion - and atheism is an offensive opinion - then you were advised to grow a thick skin yourself.

Mind you, I didn't see (or make) drunken hookup attempts in the elevator. That's just stupid. But honestly if it *did* happen, that's on the loser who crashed and burned, not on the whole event.

Over the 2000s I did see the shift toward "atheism plus" coming, so I bailed from the scene. It looked like another form of religion was on its way, and a less tolerant form than American ceremonial-deism could ever be.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 05:54 PM (6FqZa)

169 While not very Christian the following sums up my feelings:

1. Fuck Salon
2. Fuck Liberals, Socialists, Progressives, and Commies. All are one-and-the-same.
3. Fuck muzzies

They want enforce their crap on folks by violence and intimidation. Let them eat dirt.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 27, 2015 05:57 PM (lQqij)

170 well thanks for not adding "fuck atheists" to that, Man from Athens. That's very Athenian of you :^)

But I will say that those atheism-plus SJW entryists can get plussed with a pineapple.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 06:03 PM (6FqZa)

171 Gotta hand it to Joseph. He accepted his responsibility to raise and love Jesus and take care of both Him and Mary knowing, but I guess not truly understanding, God's role in all of this. He probably took a lot of crap for it from folks, at least until the Wise Men came by a couple years later. Bet he grinned from ear to ear. I know I would have.

Joseph: "What? You don't have royalty come visit your kid?"

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 27, 2015 06:07 PM (lQqij)

172 170 well thanks for not adding "fuck atheists" to that, Man from Athens. That's very Athenian of you :^)

But I will say that those atheism-plus SJW entryists can get plussed with a pineapple.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 06:03 PM (6FqZa)

I got no problem with atheists or anyone's belief system nor anyone evangelizing. I rather enjoy a good debate when I'm in the mood. I got a real problem with folks trying to shove it down our throats using violence or intimidation.

Go to Athens if you get the chance and visit the Acropolis. Stones been walked on for so long they are as smooth as glass. A word of warning: you may become a theist if you take a cab in Athens.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 27, 2015 06:18 PM (lQqij)

173 That picture of Santa being shot? Yeah, Dec 23, 2014, and it's tear gas inhalation. http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/jesus-birthplace-grapples-with-modern-traffic-challenges/

Posted by: Tyrconnell at December 27, 2015 06:49 PM (jeKFO)

174 Read the Salon article...biggest piece of crap I have ever read...basically the dark side is that the story of the Virgin Mary and Jesus' birth can make girls feel less of a person if they are not virgins.

Thanks Salon for proving how stupid you are.

Posted by: RGallegos at December 27, 2015 06:58 PM (49Jfq)

175 Yes, in order to criticize liberals, it was certainly necessary to throw "creationists" under the bus. Memo to George: every Christian who recites the Nicene Creed on Sunday mornings is a "creationist." That's a lot of people. Is he sure he's ready to alienate them?

Posted by: Caliban at December 27, 2015 06:58 PM (3GFMN)

176 175: Is he sure he's ready to alienate them?

George lives in a bubble. He has no idea who he's alienating.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 27, 2015 07:02 PM (syGA0)

177 Who reads Salon any more?

They still exist?

Posted by: Jake at December 27, 2015 07:17 PM (QelBn)

178 I can see why thats "problematic" for the Left. They would have to admit to Sin.

Posted by: , grumbling Steelers fan at December 27, 2015 04:18 PM (JCSGM)
-------

Oh, they're fine with "sins", just not the Christian ones.

I mean, they've certainly copied from old Catholic ideas about sin.

"Original Sin"? "Check your privilege!"

"Indulgences"? Significant donations leading to anything from slap-on-the-wrist prosecutions to Presidential pardons...

Posted by: mikeski at December 27, 2015 07:34 PM (hAtXl)

179 Will, typically, screws up the basic assumption.

He's correct about the secular government but wrong in claiming the Religious creationists are incorrect.

Stupid Will.

Dissing Government AND the people who believe in God.

I knew there was something about him I didn't like.

Actually a lot of something I didn't like.

He says stuff about conservatism, sometimes, that seems so correct. Trouble is some of his underlying presumptions are totally wrong thus ruining any possibility of believing the other stuff.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 27, 2015 08:12 PM (Xo1Rt)

180 basically the dark side is that the story of the Virgin Mary and Jesus' birth can make girls feel less of a person if they are not virgins.

LOL; Well at least the stupidity of Salon is worth a guffaw.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2015 08:48 PM (qES5k)

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