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Wednesday Morning News Dump
- Virginia AG Unilaterally Eliminates Concealed Carry Reciprocity
- WaPo Yanks Absurd Cartoon Depicting Ted Cruz's Daughter's As Monkeys
- In Omnibus Bills, Americans Get Rolled
- Russian Missile System In Syria Threatens US Pilots
- Re-Print Of Mein Kampf Unleashes Row In Germany, Gives John A Chance To Replace His Worn Out Copy
- Assad Is Reaching Out To Washington Insiders
- Don't Block Individuals On The Terror Watch Lists From Buying Guns
- Obama Celebrated DADT, But Forgets To Mention Lesbian Air Force Officer Killed In Afghanistan
- Franklin Graham Quits The GOP
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:26 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: HH at December 23, 2015 09:29 AM (DrCtv)
Posted by: steevy at December 23, 2015 09:30 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:30 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 23, 2015 09:31 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2015 09:32 AM (rtXe+)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 09:33 AM (F+xWX)
"Franklin Graham Quits The GOP"
Go ye and do likewise.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 23, 2015 09:31 AM (u5gzz)
I quit the Republican party years ago. Changed my name to reflect it a few months ago, used to be just Cato.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 23, 2015 09:33 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (qUNWi)
As few as six candidates could make the next GOP presidential debate stage in January, as Fox Business Network's new criteria could drastically shrink the field less than a month before the Iowa caucuses. Participants in the main stage debate on Jan. 14 must hit the top six in an average of five recent national polls, or top five in an average of recent polls from Iowa or New Hampshire.
Using current RealClearPolitics averages, Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas), Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), Ben Carson, former Gov. Jeb Bush (Fla.), and Gov. Chris Christie (N.J.) currently sit in the national top six.
The Hill
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (VrdxH)
so unless proven , banning from buying would be problematic for me.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: E.T. at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (yq4gk)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (ftVQq)
1) The Arabic translation--which doesn't have any footnotes to explain what a putz the author was--has been a runaway bestseller for years and not only has no one given a shit, the government is falling over backwards to welcome its fans to Germany.
2) It's 2015. Any teen who doesn't have an Arabic copy at home but has a free afternoon and a little internet savvy can have a free text copy downloaded in seconds.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (vn2q2)
*raises his glass for a toast*
Welcome to Let it Burn, Mr. Graham. Worry not, all this was foreknown long ago. All things are under our Lord's control, and He will not let His children go unavenged.
It's a hard wait, but take comfort knowing the battle was won long ago; all that remains now is to wipe out the pathetic guerilla movement that is Satan and rebellious Man. It won't take much.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (6JL3d)
https://twitter.com/AnnTelnaes/status/677575819087118336
Imagine if that were Obama. Yeah, racist.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Santa at December 23, 2015 09:34 AM (XzRw1)
Lot of truth in that line. There's only one party and one agenda, pretending to be two parties and offering a "loyal opposition" to act as a pressure valve. There are a handful of legitimate rebels, and more people have begun to see just how crooked the system actually is.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: V the K at December 23, 2015 09:36 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 09:36 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 09:37 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:37 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2015 09:37 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 09:38 AM (qUNWi)
Fox is taking it upon themselves to "narrow the field."
They're totally schlonging the lower-tier candidates.
Except Jeb. They've come up with a formula that will allow Jeb to stay in, even though he is now polling (nationally) south of Rand Paul.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:38 AM (AkOaV)
The real money lies in being a faux opposition party (preferably a minority one)!
Posted by: Marshall Petain Ryan and Vidkun Quisling McConnell at December 23, 2015 09:39 AM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Danger 5 at December 23, 2015 09:39 AM (rtXe+)
Telling, that.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:40 AM (W2YA6)
Virginia AG Unilaterally Eliminates Concealed Carry Reciprocity
Insty said something along the lines of, if there were some red state governors with guts, they'd unilaterally eliminate driver license reciprocity for VA drivers.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 09:40 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:40 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Hillary! at December 23, 2015 09:40 AM (1xUj/)
https://twitter.com/AnnTelnaes/status/677575819087118336
Imagine if that were Obama. Yeah, racist.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:35 AM (NOIQH)
The author portrays Hispanic Ted Cruz playing the bongos with no shirt on (I think he's supposed to be an Indian banging the war drums, which in and of itself would be... 'problematic'... if a conservative drew it) and draws Ted Cruz's hispanic children as monkeys.
Why has she not been shamed out of public life already?
Can you imagine a conservative cartoonist drawing Obama shirtless banging on a bongo and portrayed his kids as monkeys?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (AkOaV)
In Omnibus Bills, Americans Get Rolled
Whaaaat!?!
Ann Telnaes' racist, anti-Hispanic, anti-child, bullying cartoon-
depicting little Hispanic girls as monkeys
almost certainly displayed the highest form of sophisticated Democrat/Progressive wit
and indeed was one of the finest examples of the quality of thought and morality at the Washington Post.
This is an outrage.
Ms Telnaes deserves a raise and promotion to vice president for this sterling example of clear Progressive thinking and the upholding the principles of the Washington Post.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (KUa85)
Jeb will lose with dignity and kind words for Hillary. A quality they can appreciate more than we can.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (VrdxH)
So, maybe not so simple. Even if it would be fun to see them try.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (W2YA6)
Life can get ... challenging. Rough. Seemingly impossible. Believe me, I know. Of course, you know, in your heart of hearts, that the Almighty is always listening. He might not be answering immediately and out loud and in the way we might want - but always always hears. And holds you in his heart and has the best destiny for you.
...Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Merry Christmas, Willow.
Posted by: mindful webworker - the o logian at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (mndtc)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (fWAjv)
What a maroon.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (LUgeY)
It took him a while to find out why he was on it in the first place. Here's why: he has a name that's as Irish as Paddy's pig. He happened to be traveling in Europe and was crossing from the Continent to England via ferry on the night Lord Mountbatten was murdered by the IRA. The British police hauled him in for questioning simply because of his name (he had no IRA sympathies or connections at all - they did the same with other Irish Americans). He was released but his name got on a list - and he knew nothing about it for over 20 years.
That's how easily one can get on the no-fly list.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2015 09:43 AM (UzPAd)
John the Nazi I guess.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 09:38 AM (qUNWi)
Same question I was going to ask. I went and skimmed the article, not because I care. I just wanted to know who John was. Then I came back here, thinking youse guys had some fella named John locked up in the barrel or something...
I'm so afraid I'm gonna miss out on all the fun.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 09:43 AM (Dj0WE)
New Jersey being an example.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (MNgU2)
If they're comfy attacking an infant with Downs (and specifically saying ugly things about that), then n GOP kid is off limits.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (NOIQH)
So, maybe not so simple. Even if it would be fun to see them try.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (W2YA6)
The Constitution says..."Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."
So states have to respect other states drivers licenses, marriage licenses (ahem), court rulings, etc. etc.
So frankly, yeah -- I'd say fuck it. Refuse to recognize VA's drivers license. let someone challenge it and go to court, and try to get a supreme court ruling recognizing ALL licenses (including CCW's) as the constitution DEMANDS states do.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (AkOaV)
Our Krautish friends don't have our understanding of free speech. (Nor, for that matter, do the Brits). The Yahoo article says that the Allies banned Mein Kampf after the war, but it's stayed banned under the whole regime of Germans banning certain speech.
So now it's legal only in the annotated scholarly form, which I guess is something.
Of course, there's been such a thing as the internet for a quarter century more or less.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 23, 2015 09:45 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 09:45 AM (iQIUe)
freakin' Trig Palin: Sarah used him as a prop --- for bringing him up on
stage at the end of the RNC (when all family came out onto the stage.
I could almost find some tortured logic in that if Mrs. Clinton hadn't spent yesterday parading around her parasitic clump of cells' second pregnancy.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at December 23, 2015 09:47 AM (vn2q2)
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, languishing in Crazyfornia at December 23, 2015 09:47 AM (cmBvC)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 09:47 AM (iQIUe)
Someone should draw Obama's kids as monkeys on a leash, reference any number of times Obama has used his kids in ads or as "props" and demand Washington Post print it.
Of course they won't, and liberals will shriek about it like crazy, but, hey.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:47 AM (AkOaV)
Does the stupid whore have kids of her own. I think someone needs to make some photoshops or cartoons of her kids.
Posted by: GMan at December 23, 2015 09:48 AM (sxq57)
It is a royal PITA and it is 'guilty until proven innocent'. This is the last thing that should be used to deny someone their gun rights.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:48 AM (NOIQH)
When will the WaPo bitch be fired?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (LUgeY)
The cartoonish gave the same excuse as the MSM and other used to attack freakin' Trig Palin: Sarah used him as a prop --- for bringing him up on stage at the end of the RNC (when all family came out onto the stage.
Insty has commenters saying the same thing. I used to like his blog, but with adding Ed Driscoll and opening up to comments, I think he's really damaged his brand.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (W2YA6)
Merry Christmas, Willow.
Posted by: mindful webworker - the o logian at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (mndtc)
reminds me of a parsha where it is mentioned it rains on the just and unjust.
and happy christmas to you and your family, It is true that although i seek the mind/meaning/undertsanding of G-d , it is bigger than i.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (VrdxH)
People can vote with their feet. I know that's not the best answer, but I do not understand how anyone makes the decision to live in New York or Californica or Illinois or any of the rest of the cesspit states that have been ruled by Democrats for decades.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 23, 2015 09:50 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 09:50 AM (FkBIv)
Hey, you'll get Krazy Ken and LIKE it.
Sincerely,
The GOPe
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at December 23, 2015 09:50 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: President of the Northwest Confederation at December 23, 2015 09:50 AM (KSP4V)
Ugh! And let's not forget how Chelsea took a lead role in Hillary's 2008 campaign and still refused to speak to the media (protected!!) - she even refused to do an interview with a lil' grade schooler. Not a peep from the MSM, they respected her 'privacy'.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:51 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:51 AM (iynDC)
Made some booze fudge this morning, so the holiday should be merry here. :-9
Posted by: elaine at December 23, 2015 09:52 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (GDulk)
Calm down. I have a Virgina birth certificate and all my family has since 1640.
It's a Commonwealth, not a fucking state.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:48 AM (NOIQH)
Citizen Comrade, do you not understand that a secret list maintained by your trusted party officials is the perfect method of gun control?
Also housing allocation, food rations, job preferences, ...
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 09:54 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:54 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM
States do not have the right to pass a law that is unconstitutional.
The constitution is straight forward on the issue of keeping and bearing arms.
It's also straight forward on the issue of recognizing other states licenses.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:54 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 09:54 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 09:54 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (MNgU2)
Been there, done that.
Gope has already found the hill on which to die, and it's already dead. It just doesn't know it yet.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM (NeFrd)
Obama is such a total pussy. Please Santa. I'll never ask for anything ever again.
Posted by: Dr. Manbube at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM (Przou)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:51 AM (iynDC)
No, we're going to be punished with their baby.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:56 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 09:56 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 23, 2015 09:44 AM (MNgU2)"
I've voted for "conservative" Republicans all my life. I won't do it again. Ever.
Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 23, 2015 09:56 AM (u5gzz)
let's see...
Bailey's and chocolate chips, little bit of butter and condensed milk...
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (F+xWX)
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Well, Trig did have the audacity not to be killed in the womb, so you know, fair is fair.
/s
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (mBYZv)
New Jersey being an example.
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I'm not understanding. Constitution guarantees me a right - freedom of religion, for example - but if the state constitution doesn't include the same guarantee, I don't have it?
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM (kpqmD)
Isn't that the truth, while telling everyone else what a burden to society children are, while conversely telling citizens it's for the children!
they are a fickle bunch.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (iynDC)
Private corporation doing the job the muz outreach NASA is completely incapable of attempting, much less doing, so "local" news.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 09:58 AM (ftVQq)
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 09:58 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 09:58 AM (F+xWX)
/s
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (mBYZv)
well as Ginsburg and Sanger noted, undesirables, the list is long and deep.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 09:58 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 09:59 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:00 AM (F+xWX)
Yeah, at some PP event Chelsea lamented that her great grandmother didn't have PP because her grandmother was an unplanned pregnancy.
Yes, Chelsea, we wish your g-grandma had access to legal abortions or birth control, too.
*headslap*
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 10:00 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 09:57 AM (IPirI)
What the hell is a commonwealth anyway?
And why am I thinking just by asking that question we're going to start another Civil War "discussion" here?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (erRNA)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (NeFrd)
That's the context for the Hitler headline.
By the way, Germany's like, let's ban an inanimate object that rails against Jews and advocates their destruction while importing loads of live people who feel the same way. Brilliant.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:02 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:02 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 10:02 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:03 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Hillary got the knack at December 23, 2015 10:04 AM (FkBIv)
I was surprised that they didn't try the static landing first instead of trying to land on their sea barge/landing pad.
And yeah, that whole launch was all kinds of awesome.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 10:04 AM (LUgeY)
That's the context for the Hitler headline.
By the way, Germany's like, let's ban an inanimate object that rails against Jews and advocates their destruction while importing loads of live people who feel the same way. Brilliant.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:02 AM (mBYZv)
Oh. So you're saying we all just outed ourselves as non-listeners to the podcast?
Uh oh... I hope that doesn't come back to get us later. If this were a movie, it would be called foreshadowing.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:04 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 09:55 AM
Ain't that the truth.
chique! Everything's going pretty well. How are you?
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at December 23, 2015 10:04 AM (vn2q2)
against Jews and advocates their destruction while importing loads of
live people who feel the same way. Brilliant.
I think this is the part that's confusing me.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at December 23, 2015 10:05 AM (vn2q2)
Finally watched the landing last night. Just incredible. Seen rockets land upright in SF in various media since the 50s, but seeing the real thing... almost unbelievable.
USA! USA! Private enterprise USA!
Posted by: mindful webworker - naw, Hollywood faked it at December 23, 2015 10:05 AM (mndtc)
1 can (14 ounces) sweetened condensed milk
3 cups semisweet chocolate chips
1 tablespoon vanilla extract
2 tablespoons bourbon (I used Drambuie)
3/4 cup finely chopped pecans
Line a 9"x9" square pan with aluminum foil, leaving some hanging over each end (to make handles to easily remove the fudge later).
Combine chocolate chips and sweetened condensed milk in a saucepan over low heat. Heat, stirring, until melted and smooth; remove from heat. Stir in the vanilla, booze, and pecans.
Spread fudge in the pan and chill for an hour. Cut into 1 inch pieces. Put fudge in a container and store in fridge.
Note: you can use more booze and less vanilla if you like. I should've done that...
Posted by: elaine at December 23, 2015 10:05 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM
BETTER[/i}? Than what?
Massachusetts is a "commonwealth." California is a "state."
I've lived in both, and neither is exactly what I'd call ideal. Or even good. Or acceptable.
It's like the difference between Chaaaaahhhhlie Bakuh and Moonbeam Brown. Which is damn near undetectable, except for their accents.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:06 AM (z/vax)
So states have to respect other states drivers licenses, marriage licenses (ahem), court rulings, etc. etc.
So frankly, yeah -- I'd say fuck it. Refuse to recognize VA's drivers license. let someone challenge it and go to court, and try to get a supreme court ruling recognizing ALL licenses (including CCW's) as the constitution DEMANDS states do.
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I'm not sure the full faith and credit provision requires this or gives Congress the power to enforce reciprocity. I know Cooke has written on this, but i haven't really read his arguments.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:06 AM (gmeXX)
So a man picked up a lady at the train station. He was driving a cart drawn by a mule and carried a whip and a shotgun, as was done in those days. At one point in the trip the mule stopped of its own accord to examine a bush. The driver got the whip and belted the mule hard. "That's one," he exclaimed.
A while longer the mule stopped again. It got the same. "That's two," the driver grumbled.
Finally, within sight of their destination, the donkey simply sat down. The driver took out his shotgun and blew the donkey's head of.
"Why did you do that? That made no sense at all to do that to the poor animal," complained the lady.
The driver reached for his whip. "That's one..."
2006 was one.
2012 was two.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 23, 2015 10:06 AM (9krrF)
43 John who?
For a time (or from time to time) there was a running gag on the AoSHQ podcasts regarding Hitler. IIRC, John is one of the cobs who was part of the gag.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:07 AM (BK3ZS)
rolls eyes at self.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:07 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 10:09 AM (FkBIv)
But I'm sure the powers that be in the GOP are glad to be rid of Graham and those icky evangelicals who will follow suit.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:09 AM (mBYZv)
Meanwhile, Trump continues to fade:
A new CNN/ORC poll released on Wednesday has found Trump tops the field with 39%, according to the poll of Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters. That's more than double the share backing Cruz at 18%, Behind those two, Ben Carson and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio have each slipped a few points and now stand tied at 10%.
The CNN/ORC poll was conducted after the Republican debate hosted by CNN and Facebook in Las Vegas on December 15.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2015 10:09 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Gene Kelly at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 10:11 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: chique testing testing
They can hold their head high at the cocktail party.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 10:12 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:07 AM
Now that's just plain weird, willow.
I can manage to rinse out the pot, add fresh coffee and brew up a jug o' java in my sleep. Before I do anything else. Heck, I don't even have to turn on the lights....
Can't imagine adding counter-cleaning to my list of somnambulistic activities.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:12 AM (z/vax)
rolls eyes at self.
Blonde is a state of mind. Not necessarily an indicator of root color.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:12 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:12 AM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:13 AM (qUNWi)
That sounds yummy.
I only have pumpkin pie for breakfast.
Add a shot of tequila for a booze pie!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:14 AM (YE6fT)
Yes, it's ok to go after kids. Until the Democrats feel pain, they won't stop. And the only way to get them to stop is to go after their kids.
Of course, no one will do that so that's more ground ceded for no gain but a fine moral victory.
The Upper Middle Class is neither a large nor an important part of the conservative coalition--they are just influential well beyond their value. They are the "e" in GOPe. And they'd just a soon vote R as D--either way means little to them. They are the "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" chameleon, always a threatened budget cut away from becoming full liberal.
And what value are they? They are the class that supports amnesty, insulated (they believe) from any ill effects. If they are such a valuable part of the coalition, what conservative policy victories have been gained by their presence? None. Indeed, when it comes time to advance a conservative position, a sea of eager hands pop up among them, eager to attack on behalf of the Democrats.
Would we lose without them? Are we winning now? That argument--that conservatives would lose without them--is the ugly, stupider cousin of "but the Democrat is worse!!" argument they trot out every 2 years; instead of, you know, a record of accomplishments.
Let me know when the working and middle class--you know, those who swept Reagan to a 49 state victory--sneer with half the contempt at any other class as they receive. And let me know when the working and middle class refuses to vote for the candidate supported by the upper middle class. You know, like Dole, Bush HW, Bush W, McCain, and Romney.
A 5% vote increase in the middle and working class is worth more than a 80% increase in the upper middle class. And it's worth more than a 40% increase in the Hispanic vote.
The math is simple on that: Pursuing policies favored by the upper middle class is costing conservatives votes.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 23, 2015 10:14 AM (fQ/0p)
She also drew Ted Cruz with a sombrero.
I didn't know Canadians wore sombreros.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (YE6fT)
It's OVAH for Teh Donald!
Poppin' Fresh has been predicting it for months!
Now we can get on with the Real Job, which is running Heb! against Shrillery.
America is saved!!!11!!!
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (z/vax)
1 ounce Cognac or brandy
1 egg
1/2 ounce simple syrup or 1 teaspoon powdered sugar
Hot milk or hot water
Grated nutmeg for garnish
its served in small cups, like espresso cups. sometimes you'll find little whit cups with Tom and Jerry printed on em in an antique store - thats what they were for
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (BK3ZS)
And for your amusement, over at HotAir Ed is desperately trying to explain away Trump's 21 point lead in the CNN poll as meaningless.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:10 AM (F+xWX)
Couldn't get the cat to stand still.
(The veal you must try. Yes.)
Posted by: Shecky Yoda at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (RD7QR)
But I'm sure the powers that be in the GOP are glad to be rid of Graham and those icky evangelicals who will follow suit.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:09 AM (mBYZv)
Now that the GOP is rid of those icky SoCons, it'll have 90% of Congress and the Presidency for decades to come!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (kpqmD)
Can you spot the problem that police are facing?
http://tinyurl.com/p3cpjnq
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:17 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:17 AM (F+xWX)
Holy crap! I've got it!
Booze in coffee!!
Irish beat you to that.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:17 AM (YE6fT)
Here's my Holiday Coffee.
3/4 mug of coffee.
Add Frangelico to taste.
Top with whipped cream.
Simple, yummy and mildly effective.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 10:17 AM (LUgeY)
Dragline: Nobody can eat fifty schlongs!
13 is my limit.
--Sheriff Bart
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:18 AM (YE6fT)
No, because Obama would get himself tangled up in the drums and hurt himself.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 10:18 AM (yddCj)
_____________________
And not just selling the baby parts, although that would be bad enough, but deliberately performing the abortions in ways that allow them to maximize their "harvest," rather than minimize the pain to the baby.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (a31sM)
A lot of the commenters there don't seem willing to let him get away with it.
Funny, they seem untroubled by Trump's boorish propensity for telling the truth, and telling it bluntly.
Somehow, it doesn't bother me either. Even though Ace seems to be selling the same message.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (z/vax)
Can you spot the problem that police are facing?
Forced to carry 9mm vs. .45 acp?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:01 AM (IPirI)
So... that means there's really no answer?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (Dj0WE)
12 egg(s)
1 cup sugar
1 bottle brandy -- brandy
Pinch of ground allspice
Pinch of ground cinnamon
Pinch of ground cloves
1 bottle rum -- dark rum
milk
nutmeg
mug
Instructions:
Separate the eggs. Beat the whites until they form a stiff froth, and the yolks -- to which you have added the sugar -- "until they are as thin as water," as the professor advises, gradually adding 4 ounces brandy (spiceaholics will also add a pinch each of ground allspice, cinnamon, and cloves). Fold the whites into the yolks. When ready to serve, give it another stir and then put 1 tablespoon of this batter in a small mug or tumbler. Now add 1 ounce brandy (although some die-hard Dixiecrats prefer bourbon) and 1 ounce Jamaican rum, stirring constantly to avoid curdling. Fill to the top with hot milk and stir until you get foam. Sprinkle a little grated nutmeg on top. This one may require practice and a certain amount of fiddling, but it's well worth the effort. Note: Some people find the milk too rich and filling, so they use half hot milk, half boiling water.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (F+xWX)
http://tinyurl.com/jkat33h
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (YE6fT)
No, silly, Cubans do, duh!
IOW, racist cartoonist thinks all Hispanics are the same - Mexican.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 10:20 AM (yddCj)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:20 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:20 AM (qUNWi)
I don't think most "godly" people are running for elected office. Not to say they're aren't a few good people who believe in God in office, but the Democrats booed God three times at their convention. I don't think Hillary has any god but herself and her ambitions and the Republicans aren't much better. I just stay as a Democrat so I can get the window view at the camps. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (qES5k)
I didn't know Canadians wore sombreros.
__________________
They do.
So do Cubans.
But only when they're appropriating Mexican culture.
They're all so raaaaacist!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (a31sM)
Can you spot the problem that police are facing?
http://tinyurl.com/p3cpjnq
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (ptqRm)
You mean the "Refused to cooperate with investigators" thing? Pretty much standard thug etiquette, I guess. Just another reason to resettle the decent people, fence off part of the city, and let the thugs slug it out.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (F+xWX)
IOW, racist cartoonist thinks all Hispanics are the same - Mexican.
So THAT'S why the Puerto Rican in the next cube over got pissed when I gave them a sombrero!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:21 AM (YE6fT)
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That is not what Ed is saying. There is nothing wrong with his analysis.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:22 AM (gmeXX)
That reminds of the episode of Taxi where Alex is trying to give away money to political cartoonist in his cab.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:22 AM (qUNWi)
That's that evil white man oppressive "cultural appropriation," isn't it?
America is the Melting Pot of the World, but we can't use any other culture's anything lest we be accused of being some sort of monster.
Normally, one must visit a sanitarium to find people who hold two totally opposite opinions at the same time...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 10:22 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:15 AM (BK3ZS)
I guess it looks fancier on the state seal... although the seal probably doesn't care much for it. What with all the extra letters being tattooed on his hide.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:23 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 10:23 AM (QPdNE)
See this:
http://www.spacex.com/news/2015/12/21/background-tonights-launch
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:23 AM (VrdxH)
Obama was told in summer 2013 that there was no moderate Syrian opposition. But he refused to hear it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (GNWYU)
Can you spot the problem that police are facing?
http://tinyurl.com/p3cpjnq
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (ptqRm)
Victim refuses to cooperate.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (0O7c5)
IOW, racist cartoonist thinks all Hispanics are the same - Mexican.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM
Cubans wear green baseball caps. And beards.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (z/vax)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (kpqmD)
It's a winning formula! Just like, you know, Jeb! was planning top win the general without winning the primaries.
Step 1. Alienate vast swaths of your base while failing you attract new voters because they think you are racist anyway.
Step 2. ????
Step 3. Landslide GOP victory!
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:24 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 09:49 AM (Dj0WE)
People might have work ties and family ties that bind them to specific places. Some people have more close-knit families than others.
It's also not terribly easy to just pick up and move if you are in your 40's or 50's, especially not in the Obama era.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (IPirI)
...but if you do, I a'heard you enjoy them in a bag for breakfast, then you start craving fruit and water, and taking pictures of rusty hinges, and hawking calendars.
Posted by: Just say NO! to Virginia licenses at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (KSP4V)
Posted by: rickb223
Aren't these sombreros?
http://tinyurl.com/otz8b74
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 09:58 AM (ftVQq)
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It gave me a boner.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (iQIUe)
158 Here's the weird sombrero cartoon. I don't know wtf she's trying to say. No idea.
http://tinyurl.com/jkat33h
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:19 AM (Z/8dZ)
Those are teabags around the rim, so Tex-Mex Teabagger or some such addled brain meme.
Do try to keep up with her superior intelligence.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (BK3ZS)
Because Barky wasn't to be trusted
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (GNWYU)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (iynDC)
Can you spot the problem that police are facing?
http://tinyurl.com/p3cpjnq
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2015 10:16 AM (ptqRm)
Victim refuses to cooperate.
Dinsee Nuffin has no idea what happened.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (7v/r5)
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I wouldn't bet this way, but it is possible. The next few months are going to be interesting and fun.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (iynDC)
We'd be more alert drunkards.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:27 AM (kpqmD)
Best news I've heard all day.
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:28 AM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:26 AM (iynDC)
We'd be more alert drunkards.
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I thought coffee followed booze ... followed by booze.
Circle of life.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:28 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:28 AM (qES5k)
We'd be more alert drunkards.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:27 AM (kpqmD)
at least while under the table we'd be able to keep track of carpet thread counts.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:28 AM (iynDC)
______________________
That's 'cuz Barry knows so much more about military intelligence than his military intelligence analysts.
Just like he's a better speechwriter than his speechwriters, and a better campaign director than his campaign director.
Barry is The All-Knowing.
Who knows nothing.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 23, 2015 10:29 AM (a31sM)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:29 AM (NeFrd)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/679676684501692416
Note the compassionate leftist responses.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:30 AM (VrdxH)
It's also not terribly easy to just pick up and move if you are in your 40's or 50's, especially not in the Obama era.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (u0lmX)
I know. No one said it was going to be easy.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:30 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 10:30 AM (7v/r5)
Would we lose without them? Are we winning now? That argument--that conservatives would lose without them--is the ugly, stupider cousin of "but the Democrat is worse!!" argument they trot out every 2 years; instead of, you know, a record of accomplishments.
Let me know when the working and middle class--you know, those who swept Reagan to a 49 state victory--sneer with half the contempt at any other class as they receive. And let me know when the working and middle class refuses to vote for the candidate supported by the upper middle class. You know, like Dole, Bush HW, Bush W, McCain, and Romney.
A 5% vote increase in the middle and working class is worth more than a 80% increase in the upper middle class. And it's worth more than a 40% increase in the Hispanic vote.
The math is simple on that: Pursuing policies favored by the upper middle class is costing conservatives votes.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 23, 2015 10:14 AM (fQ/0p)
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And where are these UMC located? Primarily New York, DC, California and very blue states. Let's go out to appease them for no electoral advantage (with the possible exception of Virginia) and massive disadvantage in Florida, Ohio and North Carolina.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 10:31 AM (LXJ1e)
What a maroon.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 09:42 AM (LUgeY)
Go look at Exxon-Mobil's annual report. Just taxes paid to net income is staggering. Last I looked it was 5 to 1 ratio.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 10:32 AM (JOG+K)
I wonder if it would be easier to fly the booster back if they put actual wings/fins on it like in the 50s SF movies.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:32 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2015 10:32 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (IPirI)
i've been a little worried about my vacay, my sister and i are taking off in a few days to try to unwind and sleep, she has a very demanding job, while i just need it for general purposes and sanity at this point.
The problem arises is that she is a determined liberal,, and i am hoping i can avoid or be non committed to anything political for the best results of both our needs.
wish me luck.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (IPirI)
Think of all the jobs created and saved, manufacturing new stationary!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (NeFrd)
Aha! Still, they had failures when trying to land at sea while the land landing was a success. But now I grok the reasons.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 10:34 AM (LUgeY)
of people, my friend. Those with loaded schlongs and those who dig.
You dig."
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (NeFrd)
Hahahaha! Was thinking of that one.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2015 10:34 AM (JO9+V)
Good luck. Can you just say, that " I know we have different political opinions but could we not discuss politics. This is the time for us to relax and unwind"?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:35 AM (qES5k)
i've been a little worried about my vacay, my sister and i are taking off in a few days to try to unwind and sleep, she has a very demanding job, while i just need it for general purposes and sanity at this point.
The problem arises is that she is a determined liberal,, and i am hoping i can avoid or be non committed to anything political for the best results of both our needs.
wish me luck.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (iynDC)
Good luck! I would hope you could say something direct like "Please, no politics. You and I both know we don't agree on these things, and I would much rather enjoy myself during this time, rather than arguing."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:35 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 10:36 AM (fWAjv)
wish me luck.
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I've actually never saw a reason to avoid such discussions, but I don't get upset when others hold a different viewpoint then me, and I like talking about it and debating it.
But good luck to you.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:36 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:37 AM (iynDC)
In southern Nigeria when I was growing up, Muslims said Merry Christmas to Christians and Christians said Eid il Fitr to Muslims during Ramadan. And your Muslim neighbours and friends sent over Ramadan ram meat.
It is a prosperous country whose citizens continually look for (imaginary) ways they are being oppressed. But they should note that prosperity doesn't last forever.
Granted, Muslims are a minority in the south. I don't know what happens in the North where hard core Muslims rule, but in the south, we do have the elusive moderate Muslims (almost all Yoruba) . I hear that the Northerners don't consider them real Muslims since I guess they live peacefully with their neighbours.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:38 AM (mBYZv)
Okey dokey.
In a country where some fat-assed clan of sluts is a regular topic of media interests?
In a country that voted Obama President twice?
In a country where the media has to tell us over and over how stunning and beautiful Michelle Obama and her spawn are?
In a country where "Girls" is considered premium television?
In a country where "safe spaces," "trigger warnings" and "microaggressions" are taken seriously?
In a country where homos can shack up and call it a marriage?
In a country where "gender is fluid" is said without laughter?
There's a lot to be absolutely embarrassed about but Trump is way far down the fucking list.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 23, 2015 10:39 AM (fQ/0p)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (iynDC)
Remind her, if she chooses to go there, that the two of you are on a vacation from all things stressful. Since neither of you is likely to change the mind of the other -- and don't fall for that "dialogue" (AKA lecture) bullshit -- straying into politics defeats the purpose of taking time off together.
That said, good luck!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:39 AM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (iynDC)
Remind her, if she chooses to go there, that the two of you are on a vacation from all things stressful. Since neither of you is likely to change the mind of the other -- and don't fall for that "dialogue" (AKA lecture) bullshit -- straying into politics defeats the purpose of taking time off together.
That said, good luck!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:39 AM (BK3ZS)
This. All of this.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:40 AM (kpqmD)
But good luck to you.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:36 AM (gmeXX)
I have family members who will get upset and leave in a huff. Yeah, I know, that's their problem, but my mother is in her 80s, and would rather have most of her family near her during the holidays. Even those family members who are douchebag liberals.
No, she probably wouldn't use the word "douchebag," but she knows a thing or two about politics herself... although I haven't yet convinced her that Ruby Oh! is a complete phony.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:40 AM (Dj0WE)
to my absentee friend @marcorubio, I didn't put your $170k+ salary in my waste report today. But I could have #Festivus
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 10:40 AM (fWAjv)
so i'm just hoping she will feel the same and take the opportunity to do as we set out to do and support eachother .
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:40 AM (iynDC)
I hear that the Northerners don't consider them real Muslims
And THAT'S when the fight started!
Same song wherever it's played.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:35 AM (Dj0WE)
Or you could say, DIDN'T YOU GET IT WHEN I SAID NO POLITICS? I'm not going to talk about it any more! And then just ignore her when she brought up politics.
That's what I would do to my sister, but willow is a lot sweeter than I. :-)
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (F+xWX)
That said, good luck!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:39 AM (BK3ZS)
This. All of this.
Posted by: Insomniac
Or sweep the leg & curbstomp her. Either or.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:42 AM (YE6fT)
*emails www.yourrepublicanuncle.com to willow's sister.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 10:42 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:42 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:42 AM (iynDC)
I wonder if it would be easier to fly the booster back if they put actual wings/fins on it like in the 50s SF movies.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:32 AM (VrdxH)
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Just a reminder that McDonnell Douglas tested vertical landing with the Delta Clipper in the 90's.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 10:43 AM (LXJ1e)
SH, i don't enjoy the discussions , i am surrounded by their ideaology in my family. it's exhausting an i am burnt out with it, and with personal issues.
**hugs**
I'm so sorry, Willow. I'll keep you in my thoughts. And I hope you do have a merry Christmas.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 10:43 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:43 AM (qES5k)
so i'm just hoping she will feel the same and take the opportunity to do as we set out to do and support eachother .
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Its hard to be the only sane one in a room. I don't have a family like that, so I really can't compare. Good luck.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:43 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:44 AM (qUNWi)
To be fair, the younger Obama daughter is cute.
I do wish their parents would make them wear longer skirts in public, though.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:44 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:30 AM
I find this brouhaha interesting. Not the WaPoo part, because it's a par-for-the-course nothingburger in the one-way world of liberals.
But there is lots of Outraged Outrage among conservatives that anyone should "attack" Cruz's children. People are lauding Ted for attacking right back. And Trump, that boor, speaks up for Cruz's demand.
Funny thing: when Shrillery made the accusation that ISIS features teh Donald in recruiting videos, and Trump demanded an apology, people were calling him a "wimp" for "pleading" for a retraction from the old bag.
Double standard much?
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:45 AM (z/vax)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (gmeXX)
lol
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:45 AM (iynDC)
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I probably won't vote trump, but I love asking liberals what they think of him. It really gets them going which I find fun.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:45 AM (gmeXX)
I suddenly have the urge for a Cuba libre or a Canadian club with 7up. Thanks, and it's not even noon.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 10:45 AM (7v/r5)
The problem arises is that she is a determined liberal,, and i am hoping i can avoid or be non committed to anything political for the best results of both our needs.
My sister is very liberal. She's also one of the most kind, generous and wonderful people I've ever met. In order for us to be able to enjoy each others company we try to keep politics off limits, particularly at holiday time.
We'll never agree about politics so why bother arguing with someone whom I otherwise love and want to spend time with?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2015 10:46 AM (/tuJf)
It is a prosperous country whose citizens continually look for (imaginary) ways they are being oppressed. But they should note that prosperity doesn't last forever.
Granted, Muslims are a minority in the south. I don't know what happens in the North where hard core Muslims rule, but in the south, we do have the elusive moderate Muslims (almost all Yoruba) . I hear that the Northerners don't consider them real Muslims since I guess they live peacefully with their neighbours.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:38 AM (mBYZv)
Honestly, I don't know what to make of it either. Around here, there are large numbers of Bosnian immigrants, who are SO grateful they were able to get away from the hell their country had become.
Most of them jumped right into American culture with both feet, willingly. But now we hear rumblings of young males deciding it's time to go to the Middle East and fight for their religion.
I suspect a "correction" will come. Either Bosnian immigrants will start to harden their beliefs, and become more in line with radical Islam, or they will essentially leave their faith behind. I'm afraid, Islam doesn't really give them much in the way of a third option.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 10:46 AM (Dj0WE)
I wonder if it would be easier to fly the booster back if they put actual wings/fins on it like in the 50s SF movies.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 10:32 AM (VrdxH)
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And wires?? lol
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 10:47 AM (iQIUe)
Put a coin in the bottom of a large coffee mug.
Pour coffee in the mug until you can't see the coin.
Pour booze in the mug until you can see the coin again.
Drink.
Don't swallow the coin.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 23, 2015 10:47 AM (J7NdS)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:47 AM (gmeXX)
Holy fuck, in 2013 the US armed forces were
channeling intelligence to other nations behind Barky's back: Germany,
Israel, and Russia
Because Barky wasn't to be trusted
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 23, 2015 10:25 AM (GNWYU)
Then again, this is coming from Seymour Hersh. Who isn't exactly the most accurate or ethical of journalists. I don't trust that sucker of cock as far as I could throw him.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 23, 2015 10:47 AM (OMTVG)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 09:53 AM (jJRIy)
Bing, bing, bing. Nothing can fuck-up a govt like being a Commonwealth. There are three (VA, MA, PA)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 10:48 AM (JOG+K)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2015 10:46 AM (/tuJf)
exactly where i'm at , i hope she will feel the same, Now is not the time to , i just can't.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:48 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 10:45 AM (z/vax)
Oh, Lawsy, people are inconsistent!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2015 10:48 AM (BK3ZS)
That's how I roll, but then I have never been known to be sensitive. Heh.
But seriously, though, don't take my advice. You are a better lady than I, so go with the loving but firm method others have advocated.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (mBYZv)
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Hey don't forget Kentucky.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (gmeXX)
Willow - I'd just show up in a "Vote Trump and Make America Great T-Shirt."
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:41 AM (gmeXX)
Or a Zombie Reagan shirt:
http://goo.gl/3TzhDV
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (T6D4w)
"The Hillary Clinton staged event yesterday was pathetic. Be careful Hillary as you play the war on women or women being degraded card."
Jus' kidding. Trump of course.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (fWAjv)
Willow...do you have earphones?
If she starts in reach for the phones. She'll get the ideer.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:50 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:48 AM (iynDC)
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This is why you are probably welcome at gatherings while I am probably not. I'd go in guns a blazing.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:50 AM (gmeXX)
to my absentee friend @marcorubio, I didn't put your $170k+ salary in my waste report today. But I could have #Festivus"
Hahaha Zing!
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:51 AM (Z/8dZ)
Willow...do you have earphones?
If she starts in reach for the phones. She'll get the ideer.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:50 AM (qUNWi)
Or start waving a gun around.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:51 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:51 AM (qUNWi)
anyway thank you guys for newtactics if necessary
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:52 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 10:50 AM (qUNWi)
Or start waving a gun around.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 23, 2015 10:51 AM (kpqmD)
haha.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:53 AM (iynDC)
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Hey don't forget Kentucky.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 10:49 AM (gmeXX)
Thank you for the correction
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (JOG+K)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (MNgU2)
Frank Conniff*
These days, "Mein Kampf" reads like Trump fan fiction.
*MST3K "TV's Frank". Loathsome.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (kdS6q)
I take it you have tried 'Can you please respect my desire just to have a friendly conversation with you?'
And they have ignored you like a D9 did Rachel Corrie?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (T6D4w)
My sister is the same but since the last time I saw her (She lives in England) was in 20009 politics aren't a problem. We don't discuss it through e-mails or by phone.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:54 AM (qES5k)
But if my older sister brings it up, which she sometimes does, I usually end up laying into her. She just wants to have a "discussion" but we both know we have completely different philosophies of life and I will never agree, for example, that climate change is an existential threat, so why bother?
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:56 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 10:57 AM (qES5k)
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I probably won't vote trump, but I love asking liberals what they think of him. It really gets them going which I find fun.
I'm gonna have to do that, then tell them THAT'S why I'm voting for Trump. LOL
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 10:58 AM (YE6fT)
i could just keep her drinking, she is mellower then , but i cry after a couple of drinks so -LOL.
i'll just ply Her with wine . we'll both sleep then.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:58 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 23, 2015 10:58 AM (erRNA)
Good advice. I too have reservations but it's all about doing what needs to be done, when no one else will do it.
Knew a janitor once, nobody thought much of. But everyone liked him when there was vomit on the floor.
I don't envy the man who has to clean up the mess that 0bama has made.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 11:00 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:00 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:00 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 10:56 AM (mBYZv)
I had a conversation with someone just the other day... not a family member, but someone with whom I am friendly. When the weather is warm, like it is now, people tend to use the phrase "global warming."
My response is "Globall Warmening is a complete lie. They made it all up," or something to that effect. The listener will either back pedal, trying to find "common ground" or get really defensive. Either way, I win. Every time. Because I have somewhere to go with the discussion, and all they have is their beliefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:01 AM (Dj0WE)
I'm gonna vote Trump proudly, and tell everyone why.
If anyone else would start telling the truth without shame or apology they could pick up my vote in a heartbeat, and a lot of others, too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 23, 2015 11:02 AM (erRNA)
Probably something with the MEMEMEME on the hat.
Because giving less than 110% to the borg is racist?
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2015 11:02 AM (DL2i+)
http://tinyurl.com/p83u8l2
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:02 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2015 11:02 AM (DL2i+)
He's a 9/11 Truther and every time he brings it up, I always counter with the truth. He even said once that fire can't melt steel. As a machinist who's melted quite a bit of steel with fire in my day, that one was easy to refute. Being an old curmudgeon, I have more experience to draw on. Relating that to him generally shuts him up and frustrates him at the same time.
He did surprise me a few weeks ago by saying he believed in Jesus, so there's that. Hope springs eternal...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:03 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 23, 2015 11:03 AM (bZ7mE)
Mom has strict no-politics rules at family gatherings, because of the irrational, angry communist atheist relatives (wish I was exaggerating) like Sis.
Sitting on the porch with Mom & Sis at Thanksgiving, I guess I skirted the edge. I started out saying something like, I haven't got much use for Trump (trying to soft-peddle what followed) and tried to talk about enjoying the hilarious style of Diamond and Silk, the Stump for Trump gals in their videos, even if I don't agree with 'em on Trump.
I didn't get much past saying the word "Trump," though, before Sis jumped up, mumbled something rude, and stormed inside. Serious TDS. Mom kind-of just sighed and we smiled at each other.
Alcohol may also have been involved at that point.
Ah, family!
Posted by: mindful webworker - poly ticklish at December 23, 2015 11:03 AM (qXtgU)
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:03 AM (mBYZv)
still she is a gun rights advocate , i I Know right! we do have some issues we can agree to, even if she votes in a way that would undermine it!
shudder, this is why i avoid, it is crazytown and i just can't do it right now.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:04 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 11:05 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:05 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 11:06 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 11:06 AM (VrdxH)
Must've been B.C. ... unless you borrowed Ace's time machine which he totally doesn't have...
Posted by: mindful webworker - typo graphically at December 23, 2015 11:06 AM (qXtgU)
Frank Conniff*
These days, "Mein Kampf" reads like Trump fan fiction.
*MST3K "TV's Frank". Loathsome.
Tough talk from somebody who's an answer to a trivia question.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 11:06 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 11:07 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Fahreed Zakaria at December 23, 2015 11:07 AM (Fmupd)
Got a Christmas card from him yesterday. Don't know if that is normal for campaigns, but it was nice to get.
Also go an email from the NC state director to volunteer for the campaign. I think I'll do it.
Maybe I can eventually parlay this into a cushy DC job.
I'd love to be on the special team tasked with shutting down useless departments.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:07 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 11:07 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2015 11:07 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 23, 2015 11:08 AM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 11:08 AM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:09 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 09:41 AM (AkOaV)
Some conservative cartoonist should draw a cartoon of Ann Telnaes as a two-dollar hooker lounging in the doorway of the WaPo building. You know, go-go boots, torn fishnet stockings, low-cut blouse, and a change machine on her belt.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 23, 2015 11:09 AM (UsLZp)
I enjoy working the opposite end. "Except that's not true," spoken softly, has a magical quality all its own to enrage a leftard. I like to remain calm whilst they lose their control.
Seeing the fire in their eyes makes the Holidays bright.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:09 AM (LUgeY)
rolls eyes at self.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:07 AM (iynDC)
Do NOT roll eyes at yourself! If you are narcissistic, you can do significantly more stupid things than that and still be very successful in life.
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2015 11:09 AM (rtXe+)
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 11:10 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Save the Wails at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 11:10 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:10 AM (T6D4w)
Unfortunately he is into BLM, hopefully from a distance. I told him that if black people were ever shot by cops ever again, it would not make a dent in the black homicide rate or dysfunction. But he is not yet a doctrinaire liberal. I think he's just like most people who don't give this stuff much thought and just absorb liberalism by osmosis.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:11 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:11 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Akmed, future suicide bomber at December 23, 2015 11:11 AM (r0Ux0)
i did not even attempt to straighten that out.
because tired! or even offer how i voted last 3 elections.
because omg ,just no.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:12 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 23, 2015 11:12 AM (dOCB6)
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That's good advice, I've voted for every Republican that has ever been presented to me. Never went around saying how bad I feel about it.
Next year, however, I will either vote for Trump, maybe Cruz or nobody. If I can't vote for them, I won't hold my nose to do it.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:12 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:13 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Gene Kelly at December 23, 2015 11:14 AM (oVJmc)
has Trump actually promised to shut down any departments? I think you may be mixing up your candidates. please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:14 AM (mBYZv)
http://tinyurl.com/p83u8l2
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:02 AM (fWAjv)
Does it include duct tape? If not, I question it's effectiveness.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 23, 2015 11:14 AM (OMTVG)
Posted by: Achmed the Clock Maker at December 23, 2015 11:15 AM (YqcVw)
We're doing our best to do just that.
Hey, Flappy, haven't seen you around here in quite a while. How's life?
Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:15 AM (LUgeY)
I'd love to hear him come out with some bullet point statistics in a speech. Throw in the word 'schlong' once in a while so that the press actually reports it.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 11:15 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2015 11:16 AM (a0IVu)
Start with liberal arts colleges.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2015 11:16 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Ahmad Mohammad, Clock Boy at December 23, 2015 11:16 AM (OiFtZ)
Or a Glock 30. I'm tellin' ya, that pistol is magic.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:17 AM (W2YA6)
I'm sure it's a trump card.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:17 AM (YE6fT)
________________________
A schlong?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 23, 2015 11:18 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Ahmad Mohammad, Clock Boy
Your time(r) is up.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 11:18 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Lemmy at December 23, 2015 11:18 AM (W2YA6)
They didn't when they felt like they were on one.
Funny, that.
I guess the point is that they have no problem with a terror watch list being used to take the rights of their political enemies, because they don't fear the apparatus of government.
They have their hands on the levers now, and can't imagine it ever changing. So now the inner tyrant comes out.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (kKHcp)
has Trump actually promised to shut down any departments? I think you may be mixing up your candidates. please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:14 AM (mBYZv)
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The VA, the Department of Education, EPA all or parts of each.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (LXJ1e)
She also drew Ted Cruz with a sombrero.
I didn't know Canadians wore sombreros.
Or Cubans.
Posted by: Gene Kelly at December 23, 2015 11:14 AM (oVJmc)
I am Canadian and I've never worn a Cuban--or smoked one.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (hJrjt)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (LXJ1e)
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Trumpzilla will decimate Washington DC.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:20 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 11:20 AM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 10:12 AM (Z/8dZ)
Which everybody recognizes as typical Cuban attire. (rolls eyes)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 23, 2015 11:20 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2015 11:20 AM (UzPAd)
list being used to take the rights of their political enemies, because
they don't fear the apparatus of government.
Yet, they still scream about the blacklist.
Posted by: Gene Kelly at December 23, 2015 11:21 AM (oVJmc)
Except for Yeb! By giving her that award of awesomeness soon after Benghazi, he was approvingproving of her vileness. So to be consistent, I cannot vote for Jeb Bush.
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:21 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 23, 2015 11:21 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:21 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 23, 2015 11:20 AM (UsLZp)
Because she is both racist and dumb.
Posted by: Lea at December 23, 2015 11:21 AM (lIU4e)
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Which means those from Virgina can no longer carry in those other states either.
I would like the AG to answer the question, "How many legal carriers have committed a crime involving a firearm?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 23, 2015 11:22 AM (oFSUK)
But I'm tired of hearing how strong they are with one ear, then the other ear tells me how weak and reliant on the federal government they need to be.
Brain just can't process two conficting pieces of data simultaneously.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 11:23 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (LXJ1e)
thanks for the info
Posted by: chique testing testing at December 23, 2015 11:23 AM (mBYZv)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (iynDC)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:19 AM (LXJ1e)
If a politician talks about shutting down this or that, without laying out a philosophy, a reason why he's doing it, he just sounds like a crank.
I'm sure Trump can get away with it though. Because crank is sorta in his wheelhouse.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
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I believe he's said he wants to kill the Education Dept and return the money to the states. He's talked about scaling back the EPA and stopping their over-reach.
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (VrdxH)
Cohiba! Cohiba! Andele. Andele.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:25 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (iynDC)
In the shower???
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:25 AM (Dj0WE)
Take away their university emblazoned place-mats.
Upper class twits the lot of them.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:25 AM (T6D4w)
Posted by: despair at December 23, 2015 11:25 AM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:25 AM (W2YA6)
Cohiba! Cohiba! Andele. Andele.
Frito Bandito! Taco! Burrito! Yee-haw!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:26 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:26 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 11:27 AM (FkBIv)
Maverick and Goose (in unison): ...the need for schlong!
**thunderous high-five**
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 23, 2015 11:27 AM (J7NdS)
If the Constitution doesn't call for it, it's illegal.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:27 AM (YE6fT)
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I can respect that position, but can't embrace it. I'm truly done with the GOPe. I'm for The Party or The System as long as it's for me. They are not. I see no difference in having Hillary at the helm if I'm offered the usual shit sandwich.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 11:28 AM (F+xWX)
If DT or Cruz aren't on the preezy ballot, then I'm through with the Party of Stoopid at the national level.
This is their last chance with me. I haven't gotten one single thing I've voted for in the past 30-odd years of voting Repumpkin.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:28 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:29 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:29 AM (T6D4w)
Through schools.
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its an 88 magnum.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 11:30 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 11:31 AM (Fmupd)
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An erection lasting more than 4 hours. Call you physician.
Posted by: Dr. Manbube at December 23, 2015 11:32 AM (Przou)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:32 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 11:33 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:27 AM (YE6fT)
Right. And when was the last time anybody in the Republican Party said a word about what's in the Constitution, and why it matters?
I swear, this is probably the most crucial point we've ceded. We used to talk about it. We used to have this philosophy of limited government, based on the concept of Rule of Law, as it appears in the text of the actual document.
We don't do that anymore. So now the argument that gets had, with any issue the liberals can bring up, and the question is "well, why don't we just do this?"
This is how the scope of government gets bigger and bigger and bigger. You don't have an answer to that question.
Well, maybe you do, but nobody in Washington does.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (Dj0WE)
.222 Remington. Triple deuce.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (Nwg0u)
Speaking of...*rattles cup along the bars*...where's our d'art?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (LUgeY)
Why cant AoShq start their own space program? It could be #SpaceE (e for ewok) or #SpaceAce
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (iQIUe)
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Good thing he painted before global warming took hold.
Posted by: SH at December 23, 2015 11:35 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:35 AM (IPirI)
Anyhow, I caught AM Joe this morning, and they actually covered the WaPo cartoon.
And Willie Geist said, "Imagine if there had been a cartoon depicting Obama's daughters as monkeys. The place would have been burned down."
So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 11:36 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 11:36 AM (FkBIv)
Speaking of...*rattles cup along the bars*...where's our d'art?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (LUgeY)
Yeah. Too early to deal with all the gun-heads.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 23, 2015 11:36 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 11:38 AM (IPirI)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2015 11:38 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (iQIUe)
Mu.nu
The hamsters are overworked as it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Grand Moff Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (W2YA6)
ABC Politics News tweet:
@POTUS sinks 40-foot chip on the 18th hole during Hawaii vacation
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)
The Prog/Com/Dims have discovered the secret to defeating the Constitution is to ignore it. Never mention it, ever. Don't remind people of its existence and if it does come up, say it's old and doesn't account for a modern America. And that it was written by white male oppressors who owned slaves. Make it into an anachronism, thereby implying that if one supports it and the principles it contains, that one is unhip and out-of-touch with society.
It sure seems to work.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (LUgeY)
Have you ever tried to read Mein Kampf? It's incomprehensible word salad reminiscent of Mooch's dissertation.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (Nwg0u)
Indeed. It was in my high school library, and I browsed through it. Pretty much unreadable. In its day, it was a coffee-table book - a book that one wanted to be seen to own, not a book to be read.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 23, 2015 11:41 AM (UsLZp)
It sure seems to work.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (LUgeY)
It sure does.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:41 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 23, 2015 11:41 AM (PFy0L)
@POTUS sinks 40-foot chip on the 18th hole during Hawaii vacation
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)
********
I'm surprised they could type that, what with McSlicers dick in their mouths and all.
Posted by: Twin Peaks at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (YLidQ)
An erection lasting more than 4 hours. Call you physician.
_____________________________
No honey. Call me.
Posted by: Lafawnduh at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (YqcVw)
Right, Billy A?
Posted by: Grand Moff Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (W2YA6)
ABC Politics News tweet:
@POTUS sinks 40-foot chip on the 18th hole during Hawaii vacation
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)
Atta boy, Clarence! God bless us, everyone!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (YLidQ)
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right up there with that fly he caught on live TV.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 23, 2015 11:43 AM (F+xWX)
Posted by: Piercello at December 23, 2015 11:43 AM (RXfvh)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at December 23, 2015 11:43 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 23, 2015 11:43 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:44 AM (T6D4w)
A list of Bill's pump-and-dumps that Hellary got back at by abusing her power?
Just spitballin'...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 23, 2015 11:44 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at December 23, 2015 11:43 AM (W2YA6)
I know. I could sink a 40 ft. chip shot whist on my 20 mile morning swim in the Yangtze river.
Posted by: Zombie Chairman Mao at December 23, 2015 11:45 AM (Dj0WE)
ABC Politics News tweet:
@POTUS sinks 40-foot chip on the 18th hole during Hawaii vacation
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)
Atta boy, Clarence! God bless us, everyone!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:42 AM (Dj0WE)
Shit, that's nothing. I got 11 hole in ones in one game.
Posted by: Kim Jong-il at December 23, 2015 11:45 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ben Solo at December 23, 2015 11:45 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 23, 2015 11:41 AM (PFy0L)
Don't do bows/crossbows but dayum! there are some nasty looking tips out there.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:46 AM (fWAjv)
It sure seems to work.
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Yes it does. Had a couple of conversations about a week ago where I mentioned that much of what is coming out of DC is un-Consitutional. The people just roll their eyes when that's mentioned. It's very sad and disheartening.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 11:46 AM (Fmupd)
I imagine his prowess with a golf club is nearly equal to his deftness with an umbrella.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:46 AM (LUgeY)
As one of them ignorant, toothless Evangelical Christians myself, I do not understand why they don't seem to acknowledge Cruz. How does Trump better represent Evangelical interests better than Cruz?
Whut am I missin'?
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 11:47 AM (ffVbD)
Posted by: chernoble Christmas at December 23, 2015 11:47 AM (hforh)
Posted by: Bakr Al-Baghdadi at December 23, 2015 11:48 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:48 AM (W2YA6)
I wonder if those same people would roll their eyes at a law against murder? That might be a good question for them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:48 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Reggie Love at December 23, 2015 11:49 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Soona
That's like talking about the Magna Carta or the Code of Hammurabi to them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 11:49 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 11:47 AM (ffVbD)
******
Franklin Graham at least is pissed about the OmniPork just passed and the continued PP funding. He is aware the GOP needs to go. Apparently Trump is his chosen form of the Destructor.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 11:49 AM (YLidQ)
A Christmas miracle!
ABC Politics News tweet:
@POTUS sinks 40-foot chip on the 18th hole during Hawaii vacation
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)
I'm sure that's a huge comfort to the families of our six servicemen/woman killed in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 11:50 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Soona
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No love for the .218 Bee? The .219 Zipper? .221 Fireball?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 23, 2015 11:50 AM (oFSUK)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 23, 2015 11:50 AM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 11:51 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 11:52 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: chernoble Christmas at December 23, 2015 11:52 AM (hforh)
Posted by: MAx at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (LAliD)
See if Donald is crazy enough to do what he says he will?
Let Bill's wife bring on the burning times?
I'm thinking LIB sooner than later.
Posted by: Big Ben - Bonnie Blue Party at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (GV+E/)
Posted by: chernoble Christmas at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (hforh)
The local PETA chapter would be trying to push her back into the ocean.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (LUgeY)
Did he bounce it off the heckling clown?
Posted by: tu3031 at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (YFFpo)
Posted by: StrawMan at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (HHE0Z)
Vacation just started....
Posted by: donna at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
Secret Service agent has car broken into near agency headquarters Monday afternoon. Items taken: badge, weapon, and a USB drive.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hfomwad
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (T6D4w)
Maybe I'm projecting too much of my hope upon him, but I kinda thought Cruz was waging a war against GOPe corruption. I can see him cleaning things up nicely.
For the record, the PP funding shows how corrupt and immoral our "betters" in DC are.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (ffVbD)
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Good thing he painted before global warming took hold.
You know who was fortunate? Thomas Kinkade.
Now, he'd have to turn out most of those lights due to warmening & footprints.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (YE6fT)
If a politician talks about shutting down this or that, without laying out a philosophy, a reason why he's doing it, he just sounds like a crank.
I'm sure Trump can get away with it though. Because crank is sorta in his wheelhouse.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
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Governing philosophy? Are we living in the 19th century? Gay marriage is the final nail in the coffin of governing philosophy.
Crank Trump says, "EPA is a disgrace" and has to go, that's good enough for me.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (9krrF)
Items taken: badge, weapon, and a USB drive.
Badge, machine gun, & launch codes.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:55 AM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 11:55 AM (Kqit+)
"
Great. Also great, that the genius kept his badge, weapon, and USB drive in his car.
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 11:56 AM (Kqit+)
Posted by: chernoble Christmas at December 23, 2015 11:56 AM (hforh)
Free Willy! Everyone PUSH!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:56 AM (YE6fT)
As one of them ignorant, toothless Evangelical Christians myself, I do not understand why they don't seem to acknowledge Cruz. How does Trump better represent Evangelical interests better than Cruz?
Whut am I missin'?
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 11:47 AM (ffVbD)
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I dunno, maybe 39% to 18%?
Maybe they have inside info that Cruz will be VP or guaranteed slot on the SC.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:57 AM (LXJ1e)
Maybe I'm projecting too much of my hope upon him, but I kinda thought Cruz was waging a war against GOPe corruption. I can see him cleaning things up nicely.
For the record, the PP funding shows how corrupt and immoral our "betters" in DC are.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (ffVbD)
As others have noted, I think a Trump/Cruz combo makes a certain amount of sense. Both have something the other does not, and they would be stronger together than either of them will be apart.
Probably too early for coordination publicly, but I could believe there have been private assurances though.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:57 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 11:57 AM (oFSUK)
http://tinyurl.com/jf8kdbf
Merry Christmas!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:57 AM (fWAjv)
Gotta be a leftard. ISIS wouldn't bother with a warning let alone a written warning.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 23, 2015 11:58 AM (4ErVI)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:56 AM (YE6fT)
Freeing your Wiilly is definitely illegal on this beach.
Posted by: StrawMan at December 23, 2015 11:58 AM (HHE0Z)
No word on what was on the USB drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 11:59 AM (T6D4w)
Fightin' words.
/Pulls out longbow
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (9krrF)
*loads hwacha
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:59 AM (fWAjv)
Crank Trump says, "EPA is a disgrace" and has to go, that's good enough for me.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 23, 2015 11:54 AM (LXJ1e)
Yes. A governing philosophy. If you don't have one, then it's just a contest of strong men.
This is, of course, the danger of Trumpapalooza. That he's a populist who gets off on the prospect of power. Once he has it, what will he do?
If all he has to offer is the smiting of political foes, then he is no better than they, because someday they will be back. And then what?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 12:01 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2015 12:01 PM (vgIRn)
The forward to the book was written by none other than...Albert Einstein. The professor made it clear he thought the book should be read, as a warning.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at December 23, 2015 12:01 PM (AYY6Y)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 11:55 AM (Kqit+)
Church in Denton also had 5 fires set in it last Thursday.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:02 PM (fWAjv)
Either way, they need to be buried under the prison as an example.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:02 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Anna Puma
They are assuring us that the data contained on it was encrypted.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:02 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 23, 2015 12:02 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 12:03 PM (ffVbD)
Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 23, 2015 12:05 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:05 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts
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We're focusing on The Airing of Grievances.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 23, 2015 12:06 PM (RrDm2)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 12:01 PM (Dj0WE)
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I disagree. DC needs a thorough smiting. That's why Trump might be just the person to do it.
I've said several times that we need an asshole that loves this country as prez the next few cycles. I still believe it.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 12:06 PM (Fmupd)
Oh that's comforting.... It's not like they have hacked into any Gov. stuff.....
Posted by: donna at December 23, 2015 12:06 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bertram
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Did the guy who told us that have a Chinese accent?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 23, 2015 12:07 PM (RrDm2)
So this lesbian Air Force officer deserves special mention from the CiC because of...? It's not like she did anything heroic.
Then again, our culture seems to think coming out of the closet is on par with charging a machine gun nest, so here we are.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:07 PM (Wckf4)
Did He mention the incident at all from His Vacay?
Posted by: donna at December 23, 2015 12:08 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:09 PM (FsuaD)
"The Omnibus Dilemma"- http://bit.ly/1QLYeyT
In the House, the trouble started when the Interior Appropriations bill was stopped in its tracks due to "flag politics". Meanwhile, in the Senate, Democrats filibustered the Defense Appropriations bill three times. As outlined in the piece, one of the primary ways to fix this problem is to pursue a "limited filibuster fix", which would prevent appropriations bills from being filibustered.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:10 PM (YjDyJ)
Is the Pope..... Oh never mind....... Yes....
Posted by: donna at December 23, 2015 12:10 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:10 PM (FkBIv)
Will probably be having to refund money to an eBay buyer. Got a letter from USPS saying they found just a shipping label of mine in the Los Angeles center. Do I want them to find the package?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:10 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:07 PM
Lester Dolt made a fuss about this last night. Even before the obligatory Trump-bashing.
No word on her service, but lots of "openly gay!!!111!! fighter for LBGT rights !!eleventy!! if not for DADT, her survivors wouldn't get any benefits!!!!11!!!" bullshit.
An insult to her, I'd say. But what one expects from the MFM.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 23, 2015 12:10 PM (z/vax)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Fa Ra, Ra,Ra Ra.....
Posted by: donna at December 23, 2015 12:11 PM (/dSsq)
The forward to the book was written by none other than...Albert Einstein. The professor made it clear he thought the book should be read, as a warning.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at December 23, 2015 12:01 PM (AYY6Y)
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My high school library had a couple of copies of Mein Kamf. No big deal. We still had freedom then. We could read most everything we wished to read.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 12:12 PM (Fmupd)
He does have some negatives, mostly to do with his actions in the Senate not quite matching his rhetoric now. But that's understandable and can be overlooked but not ignored.
He's playing an obvious game of being less than Trump but further right than anyone else.
That's the reason for the patriot vote for Trump. Trump seems to talk straight. Hard to believe he could go this long without a slip up somewhere (and you know the MFM are just drooling for the chance) if it's all an act.
So we trust him more. It is what it is. It's more about Trump being the better choice for many than Cruz being a bad choice.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 23, 2015 12:12 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Garrett at December 23, 2015 12:15 PM (MeSs9)
Otherwise, I don't trust the electorate to recognize a truly smart candidate like Cruz. So far, the electorate just trusts what the lefties tell them about who is and isn't smart.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 12:16 PM (ffVbD)
Posted by: Tuco at December 23, 2015 12:16 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Bertram
Fa Ra, Ra,Ra Ra.....
Posted by: donna
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You can both expect a visit form our Civil Rights Division... uh .... after the Winter Holiday.
Posted by: DoJ at December 23, 2015 12:16 PM (RrDm2)
You would think for a guy that sold his soul to the devil he would hit 40 foot putts every time. I guess the putz didn't put putts in his contract.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 12:18 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:18 PM (T6D4w)
Yeah, like the Smahtest Preezy EVAH! thinks there are 57 American states. *eyeroll*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:18 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
That's in the North Korean version of the contract.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:19 PM (FkBIv)
"Obama vetoes GOP push to kill climate rules"- http://bit.ly/1mdS8tR
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:19 PM (YjDyJ)
Yeah, like the Smahtest Preezy EVAH! thinks there are 57 American states. *eyeroll*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:18 PM (LUgeY)
Well, at least he admits he doesn't speak Austrian. Hopefully, he's brushing up on his Mexican.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:20 PM (FsuaD)
Oh no no no. You mean politics is complicated? You mean it's not just as simple as "Ryan and Pelosi are in cahoots and are both really socialists"?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 12:20 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 23, 2015 12:20 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:20 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 11:27 AM (YE6fT)
Right. And when was the last time anybody in the Republican Party said a word about what's in the Constitution, and why it matters?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 11:34 AM (Dj0WE)
It's all covered in the Good And Plenty clause hater!
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (JOG+K)
The Civir Lights Division?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (FtrY1)
"Obama vetoes GOP push to kill climate rules"- http://bit.ly/1mdS8tR
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
Chris Matthews assured me that the only reason I don't like that is because I am a racist.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (FkBIv)
http://tinyurl.com/jf8kdbf
Merry Christmas!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 11:57 AM (fWAjv)
What she wore:
1. Grandma's couch cushions
2. Meemaws couch cushions
3. pajamas
4. yoga pants
5. a wig
6....
Posted by: Lea at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (lIU4e)
For the record, the PP funding shows how corrupt and immoral our "betters" in DC are.
I've always thought that the GOPe clowns who give phony pro-life support while doing nothing to end Planned Murderhood fell into one of three camps:
- they're getting kickback money somehow;
- they're Christians in name only and really don't see what the fuss is about, because they're thesort of people who, as Ann Barnhardt says, don't really believe;
- they're quietly glad PP is around, just in case they have an "accident" with that hot young page or office manager or their own child gets knocked up by a Trumpkin instead of Coddington Van Voorhees VI.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (X6fMO)
What do you trust Trump to do?
He has been all over the map on every single issue.
He can't be trusted on anything! And I would argue, maybe not even trusted on the wall.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 12:22 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 12:21 PM (FtrY1)
Bourbon balls FTW.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:22 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: mindful webworker - what? at December 23, 2015 12:22 PM (qXtgU)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (pxwYc)
Hikers Flip Out As Obama Climbs Up Grueling, GRUELING!! Hawaii Trail
http://tinyurl.com/nquagry
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (uZNvH)
He was chipping on the green? That's a big no-no in golf. I couldn't tell exactly because the image is low-res. If he's on the green, it's putter ONLY. With someone holding the flag. As the putt approaches the flag is removed. Anything else is a penalty.
Anyone else want to weigh in?
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (7v/r5)
It's his talk that that makes me leery of him. He seems to have the type of confidence that marks someone who is "often wrong, never in doubt." To his credit, some of the "nutty" things he has said are things I know to be true/true-ish even though the standard LIV wouldn't know any better.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (ffVbD)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hhzjkph
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:25 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals at December 23, 2015 12:25 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2015 12:25 PM (a0IVu)
Yeah, it's so complicated that everything just naturally drifts toward socialism and Democratic party preferences and the GOP just has no other choice.
GMAFB.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:26 PM (Wckf4)
Of all the candidates, Trump is the LEAST trustworthy on the issues. At least Jeb!, while he is completely unacceptable on the issue of immigration, is at least consistent on the issue of taxes (i.e. less is better).
I would submit that, if one is completely unacceptable on immigration, even being the second coming of Ronald Reagan should not save you.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 12:27 PM (X6fMO)
Hikers Flip Out As Obama Climbs Up Grueling, GRUELING!! Hawaii Trail
http://tinyurl.com/nquagry
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (fWAjv)
Was it along the edge of an active volcano? *whistles* *sidles away*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:27 PM (FsuaD)
Of course, you can't trust Trump on issues, he has no coherent policy on anything, just flies by the seat of his pants.
You can trust the GOP though to do the Dems bidding. There should be absolutely no doubt about that now.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 12:27 PM (ODxAs)
I'll never forgive Jason Chaffetz for not going for the jugular when he had everything he needed to turn the public against Planned Butcherhood for good. He had their president, a big screen, recorded dialogue and images of abortions and couldn't put it all together to show the country what animals they are.
Hell, just show one slide of an aborted baby. Just one. That's all he had to do. Talk about how the babies are manipulated so as to maximize the "harvest." Put the onus on them to defend their barbarity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:28 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:29 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:29 PM (yddCj)
At 48:00, John Banner and Werner Klemperer sing "Stille Nacht" in German, followed by Robert "Lebeau" Clary singing "L'Enfant Divine" in French.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5klIcrgHS8
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 23, 2015 12:29 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2015 12:25 PM (a0IVu)
He has a perfect reputation
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 12:30 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 12:30 PM (x4XMF)
And, even though he is not entirely to my taste, I will vote for Trump if he gets the nomination.
If a slimy GOPe gets the nomination, I will write in Cruz.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 12:30 PM (ffVbD)
Not content with sinking THE hardest shot in golf...
Hikers Flip Out As Obama Climbs Up Grueling, GRUELING!! Hawaii Trail
http://tinyurl.com/nquagry
Read the comments at Huffpo and be prepared to vomit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:31 PM (FsuaD)
It makes you wonder about the priorities of talk radio and certain "news" sites. If they actually cared about placing the blame where it belongs and finding a solution to the problem, they would not behave the way they do. Instead they spin, lie, and distort in order to produce anger and strike. Now, that is not to say that the Republicans are blameless, but some of the articles regarding the omnibus - particularly the ones involving numbers - are false.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:31 PM (YjDyJ)
11 times Michelle Obama was absolutely flawless in 2015
Do these people realize what suckers of cock they look like?
Posted by: tu3031 at December 23, 2015 12:31 PM (YFFpo)
Hikers Flip Out As Obama Climbs Up Grueling, GRUELING!! Hawaii Trail
http://tinyurl.com/nquagry
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:24 PM (fWAjv)
Holy crap, that PuffHo piece is quite the tongue bath.
I feel like we're living in some third world country where everything the Maximum Leader does, from walking to golfing to taking a crap, is the most best, most glorious, most awesomest ever!!! And you're not permitted to think anything else.
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 23, 2015 12:32 PM (pxwYc)
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:32 PM (hH08J)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:33 PM (DUoqb)
School 2 days before Christmas?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 12:33 PM (YE6fT)
I forgot to put the /sarc tag on that golf comment.
Although I don't doubt he's done it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:33 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:33 PM (T6D4w)
The Donald dorked me in both the front one and back one on many occasions. He called it double dutch!
Posted by: Ivanka the Old Trump at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (hH08J)
Two terrorists, both formerly in Israeli custody, stab and seriously wound two people before being shot by Border Guards; third victim succumbs to gunfire wounds, possibly inflicted when security forces fired at the terrorists.
Releasing muslim terrorists is suicidal
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 12:30 PM (QPdNE)
That is good to hear.
Posted by: Emmie is Cruzin' at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (ffVbD)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (x4XMF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (FkBIv)
That's the reason for the patriot vote for Trump. Trump seems to talk straight. Hard to believe he could go this long without a slip up somewhere (and you know the MFM are just drooling for the chance) if it's all an act.
So we trust him more. It is what it is. It's more about Trump being the better choice for many than Cruz being a bad choice.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 23, 2015 12:12 PM (Xo1Rt)
Who is 'we' here? Mouse in your pocket? Trump slips up all the time yet his true believing followers just dismissthe more lunatic shithe says as 'Trump being Trump'.
And unlike Ted Cruz, Trump has no political record to examine or compare--althoughTrumpdoes freely admit tobuyingoff politicians in his professional endeavors--in at least one instance so that he couldinfluence exercise ofeminent domain and have people kicked out oftheir homes in order to build a limousine parking lot. Sonofabitch might as well be Simon LeGree, twirling his mustache. Trump's a cartoon of a man, a joke of a human being, a caricature. I could carve a better man out of a banana.
And you would make this moraldwarf President.
Posted by: troyriser at December 23, 2015 12:35 PM (UWlp+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (DUoqb)
Allowing them in your country is suicidal
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 12:36 PM (QPdNE)
Those two sentences tell me that you probably have never listened to any of them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:36 PM (LUgeY)
I have to say, he sure seems to be enjoying his stay in our country.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:36 PM (yddCj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:36 PM (T6D4w)
Anyone else want to weigh in?"***
I think Mickelson did it at Pebble Beach in a US Open once. That's the one specifica one I can remember. Pros do it from time to time when they hit a portion of a green which makes a putt not feasible due to the fact that a ball would leave the green if putted. But they are pros and get to do that because most of them can do it without fvcking up the putting surface.
Most any other course is going to kick an amateur off for that.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Wckf4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 23, 2015 12:31 PM (FsuaD)
Did you watch it? "I absolutely love you!!"
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
You see, that is always the defense when the issue of Trump's trustworthiness is raised - "everyone else will sell us down the river too!" Even, when moments before, they have been telling us what Trump WILL do, when asked to give a reason for their confidence, the first and last answer is to attack the GOP. That isn't encouraging or convincing.
IC at 501 has a pretty good suggestion, though I tend to think that carrying out a business contract faithfully isn't necessarily a good indicator that he will keep campaign promises, particularly when doing so will cost him politically. Still, it would be a start.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 23, 2015 12:38 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: antisocialist at December 23, 2015 12:38 PM (PLpS1)
Posted by: troyriser at December 23, 2015 12:35 PM (UWlp+)
Yes
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (QPdNE)
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:32 PM (hH08J)
You misspelled Loon.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (JOG+K)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (FtrY1)
You mean we have a chance? Refreshing, isn't it!
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: tu3031 at December 23, 2015 12:40 PM (YFFpo)
The quickest way to shut her up is to ask for specifics.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:41 PM (Wckf4)
Bourbon balls? Well, if you don't have any 151 that's .... okay.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (FtrY1)
I switched to Tequila.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:41 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 12:41 PM (IPirI)
One of the reasons I posted that is because some "conservative" media would have you believe that the Republicans have done absolutely nothing to stop the SCOAMF. While they (the Republicans) could do more, including the limited filibuster changes I mentioned upthread, some of the actions they have taken have been outright ignored by talk radio and certain "news" sites. For instance, how many of you heard about the new education bill that largely replaced No Child Left Behind?
"Education power to the states: Rewrite of US law passes Congress, heads to White House"- http://bit.ly/1OLnizW
"Senate passes overhaul of No Child Left Behind"- http://bit.ly/1f8GAoc
"Senate overwhelmingly passes new national education legislation"- http://wapo.st/1QfrTAb
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:41 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 23, 2015 12:42 PM (pxwYc)
So vote Republican! And still not know!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 12:42 PM (YE6fT)
You mean we have a chance? Refreshing, isn't it!
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (mxCgt)
We're running a hail mary. It might get picked off and run back for a touchdown. Then we'd be losing 45-3 instead of 38-10.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:42 PM (hH08J)
Did the omnibus fund PP or not?
Did it dump at least a half trillion more in debt on US taxpayers or not?
Did it fund Dems environmental priorities?
Did it fund resettlement of illegal immigrants and 'refugees'?
Did it fund obama's dreamers amnesty?
H2B visas up or down?
Wait, wait, surely they funded completion of the southern border fence, at least they got that, right?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 12:42 PM (ODxAs)
I can bounce a drive off of a monument that's right beside the tee. Almost decapitated the other three guys in our foursome that day, all at one time.
My score is a secret combination of number of times the ball is hit, number of times I have to yell "DUCK!" and number of beers consumed divided by the phase of the moon.
Normally, I shoot in the low '80's. If it's any hotter than that, I don't play.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:42 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:41 PM (Wckf4)
Well it takes her time to run back to the DNC or Ryan's Office to get the proper "approved" response
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:43 PM (DUoqb)
I like this spaceX pencil graphic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqcPqJfuzG4
We could attach Ace to the end of a pencil easy peasy!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 23, 2015 12:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 23, 2015 12:43 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 12:39 PM (JOG+K)
528 I prefer to see less Hersch.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 12:34 PM (FkBIv)
542 I'd trust Sy Hersh about as far as I could kick my house.
Posted by: tu3031 at December 23, 2015 12:40 PM (YFFpo)
Good lord what did I miss?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:43 PM (hH08J)
of bigger government or smaller government, whether he will support gun
control or oppose gun control, whether he will support PP funding or
oppose PP funding.
He's on twitter, you could ask him there. Can't say that he'll answer but you're more likely to get a response from him there than here.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (4WhSY)
----
A Marathonian who knows how to manage strength, power, for the long run. He really doesn't seem to be a weak man at all.
----
This President shows that he is not like the other Presidents who hide away at retreats all the time.
----
This president is a profile in courage and we should all follow his example
----
How can the American people not be proud of our first family?
Fuckery. Complete and utter fuckery.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
I wonder if any of the passengers on RMS Titanic said this?
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (326rv)
*****
I did that once. Ate gruel. Left quite a trail.
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 12:45 PM (x4XMF)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Audubon-Mural-Project-4.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:47 PM (T6D4w)
Love that you put quotes around "conservative". Also that your argument that the Republicans have done something to "Stop SCOAMF" is a bipartisan effort to overhaul Bush-era legislation.
Whoever you work for isn't getting their money's worth.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 12:48 PM (Wckf4)
Read the comments at Huffpo and be prepared to vomit."
That creepy. Libs still worship Obama like a God. that mush fawning over a man hiking up a mountain is bizarre to say the least.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at December 23, 2015 12:48 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:48 PM (hH08J)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:49 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 12:49 PM (NeFrd)
Which we can then use to beat them over their heads WRT Obama, but more importantly, restore some of the safeguards that have been thrown away.
Miss80sBaby, I hear you, but your examples of progress are an order of magnitude below the scale we should expect, given which party has control of the house and senate. It honestly seems like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to a lot of us here.
Posted by: Piercello at December 23, 2015 12:49 PM (RXfvh)
I was doing the math in my head. An 8, 000 sq foot middlin size circular green would have about a 40 foot radius. If the flag was at the center, it would be a 40 foot putt if one was on the fringe or collar. All conjecture. I suspect that is why the image is so crappy. Maybe Its a cover up. Maybe not.
That being said I've chipped in from 40 feet, but not very often. Pretty much an accident, like hitting the lottery for a grand.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (7v/r5)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (8XRCm)
I started listening to Rush Limbaugh when I was twelve years old and tuned-in to all the major radio shows every day until 2010. When I was in college, I listened during my commute to and from campus as well as during my lunch break. But I started to not pay as much attention when talk radio became promoters of anger, bitterness, and strife 24/7. Now they are outright promoting despair.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (IPirI)
----
A Marathonian who knows how to manage strength, power, for the long run. He really doesn't seem to be a weak man at all.
----
This President shows that he is not like the other Presidents who hide away at retreats all the time.
----
This president is a profile in courage and we should all follow his example
----
How can the American people not be proud of our first family?
Fuckery. Complete and utter fuckery.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (fWAjv)
--------------------
This was all staged, even down to the last tweet. Nothing is real when it comes to this POS.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (jJRIy)
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**flips through the Urban Dictionary**
EEeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 12:51 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:51 PM (T6D4w)
state actions? States have rights, yes, but there are places like NJ,
NY, etc. where the 2A might as well not exist. We're being denied our
Constitutional rights, and the lack of universal rules makes accidental
"criminals" of honest people.
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Round up any legislatures/governors that have enacted any kind of gun control and charge them with sedition?
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 12:51 PM (ZbV+0)
Correction: Obama made the mountain come to him.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:51 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at December 23, 2015 12:51 PM (Jj/2n)
****
Too bad we already took impeachment off the table.
That's both a High Crime and a Misdemeanor.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
That's the spirit! And we're going to make harbor! it's just a bit of ice and water; no biggie!
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (hH08J)
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: naturalfake
One can only imagine the howling outrage if Malia, Sasha, or Chelsea was depicted this way.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (oiNtH)
Got any rifles, Nip, or are you mostly a handgun shooter?
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (IPirI)
Not that many. Mostly stuff friends wanted to get rid off.
I need a good deer rifle. I have a Rem 770 I bought 30 years ago. Fires well, embarrassing to bring out.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:53 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:53 PM (DUoqb)
****
Too bad we already took impeachment off the table.
That's both a High Crime and a Misdemeanor.
The more he misses, da meaner the greens keeper gets!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 12:53 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:53 PM (T6D4w)
But what kind of gun is Trump?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (hH08J)
25 cal
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (jJRIy)
Now again, with reverb:
Oom-mmm-mmm-pah-ahh-wahh-wa
Oom-mmm-mmm-pah-ahh-wahh-wa
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (NeFrd)
promoters of anger, bitterness, and strife 24/7. Now they are outright
promoting despair.
This.
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (Jj/2n)
"
*raises hand*
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: MSM, High Priests of Our Precious God King at December 23, 2015 12:55 PM (rgT2/)
Posted by: troyriser at December 23, 2015 12:35 PM (UWlp+)
*looks over at Obama*
No thanks - we already got one.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Save the Wails at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 12:55 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 12:52 PM (oiNtH)
The Left has hated us for a long time: hated us hated us. I viewed them as the opposition, like an opposing team: good people can disagree and all that.
It's taken awhile, but I'm learning to hate them back.
Posted by: troyriser at December 23, 2015 12:55 PM (UWlp+)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:55 PM (mxCgt)
Isnt bureaucracy great?
Weasel Zippers
I really think School Administrators should all be fired
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 12:44 PM (fWAjv)
A tongue bath followed by a rim job.
All we need now is a dirty sanchez for the trifecta.
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (pxwYc)
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (IPirI)
-
Tingle bells, tingle bells, tingle all the way.
O what fun we'll have tonight on a one donk open sleigh, hey!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (x4XMF)
They are merely reporting on the disastrous results of anti-American Progressivism.
Something the MFM will not do. Things sound much worse because they are much worse.
And they do propose solutions like adhering to the Constitution, equality for all citizens, and the rule of law. If you listened to them, you'd know this.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (LUgeY)
"
*raises hand*
Posted by: Lauren
How many of you heard about the $18T and climbing debt?
How many of you heard about omnipork?
How many of you think that we should ignore #1 and 2 and fixate on revamping something that JEF isn't directly involved in?
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (326rv)
Posted by: troyriser at December 23, 2015 12:55 PM (UWlp+)
This. I hate these people.
HATE.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (YjDyJ)
So, last year?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Dj0WE)
promoters of anger, bitterness, and strife 24/7. Now they are outright
promoting despair.
This.
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (Jj/2n)
Bunch of pikers compared to this place - we've been pushing DOOM! for the better part of a decade.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Save the Wails at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (jJRIy)
He's a very ornate cannon that shoots confetti.
Solid gold clusterbomb grapeshot confetti.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (hH08J)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at December 23, 2015 12:58 PM (Jj/2n)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at December 23, 2015 12:58 PM (nSW/N)
I started listening to Rush Limbaugh when I was twelve years old and tuned-in to all the major radio shows every day until 2010. When I was in college, I listened during my commute to and from campus as well as during my lunch break. But I started to not pay as much attention when talk radio became promoters of anger, bitterness, and strife 24/7. Now they are outright promoting despair.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (YjDyJ)
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Please refer to comment #550. I've been listening to them too. This is the shit sandwich the repubs gave us. It's not just the radio talkers that are angry about this.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 12:58 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 12:59 PM (x4XMF)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 23, 2015 12:59 PM (OMTVG)
And our betters have been promoting incompetence, hatred and irresponsible governance. And pay for themselves.
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 12:59 PM (326rv)
One could have a lot of fun on that page. Who can out-North Korea the other in their praise of the God-Wimp?
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 12:59 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (YjDyJ)
******
No, they are reporting on it. Big difference.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:00 PM (Ycswb)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:00 PM (NeFrd)
Trump is a 60mm mortar that is always popping off.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 12:54 PM (T6D4w)
Good, fired by a lesbo black who could not pass any test, but is a lesbo black.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:00 PM (jJRIy)
What you are hearing isn't promotion, it's amplification of a very real resonance.
There is widespread belief in the rest of the country that the beltway has made itself into a de facto aristocracy, and your dismissal of that sentiment is both dangerous and disingenuous.
That sentiment arises from the bottom up, not from top down radio incitement. Controlling the messaging isn't going to fix this one.
Posted by: Piercello at December 23, 2015 01:00 PM (RXfvh)
But Trump? You have literally NO IDEA if he is going to be in favor
of bigger government or smaller government, whether he will support gun
control or oppose gun control, whether he will support PP funding or
oppose PP funding.
I could say the same thing, for example, about Jeb. Oh, yes, I can look at his record and say, "well, based on what he's done, he probably won't sell conservatives down the river," but I can also look at the circles he runs in (CoC and other eastern establishment types, who have no problem with a larger government, gun control or PP) and presume that he'll fall victim to the go-along-to-get-along-bipartisanship-uber-alles mindset that plagues DC. I can hope that Jeb will govern in my best interests, but I cannot guarantee it.
See, "Roberts, Chief Justice" for a prime example.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:00 PM (X6fMO)
Later.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 23, 2015 01:01 PM (rgT2/)
Posted by: Hillary! at December 23, 2015 01:01 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:01 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:02 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at December 23, 2015 01:02 PM (Jj/2n)
Really Miss80's, is there anything the GOP estabs could do that would cause you to drop your support? How far left do they have to go or is just one inch to the right of extreme Leftists ok?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:02 PM (ODxAs)
Now again, with reverb:
Oom-mmm-mmm-pah-ahh-wahh-wa
Oom-mmm-mmm-pah-ahh-wahh-wa
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber
Needs more cowbell. And a barf bag.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:02 PM (x4XMF)
And for you cartoon fanatics
"Fore!"
"Four? Three an a half!"
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (FtrY1)
You claim that I am a shill yet I question and criticize my party. The link I posted regarding the omnibus places some of the blame on the Republicans, as it should. Furthermore, when I post something, I try to go to the source. So, for example, if a Republican makes a claim regarding a certain bill provision, I first find said provision, then read what others have said about it. I do not shy-away from dissenting opinions, either. So I can criticize sites like Breitbart because they have a reputation for spinning, distorting, or even outright lying when it suits their purpose. Take, for example, their argument claiming that the number of Muslim migrants allowed under the omnibus exceeds the number of Iowan Republican voters. If you actually look at the number of migrants per year as well as the total number of Republican voters, their argument is outlandish, yet for some it is automatically accepted as truth.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
Howz about I turn around and have another go at the iceberg?
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:01 PM (jJRIy)
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Rem 700 chambered in 270 Win is just about the pinnacle in a whitetail slayer.
Or.... shooting the X out paper at the range.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 12:57 PM (326rv)
It's Edward J. Smith, actually.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 12:50 PM (YjDyJ)
I think you're at the wrong site. Daily Kos is over there.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 01:04 PM (JOG+K)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 01:04 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:04 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Cheek turner at December 23, 2015 01:04 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 01:05 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
Geepers, the way you make it sound, it's almost as if the Stupid Party was in the majority and ran the place.
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 01:05 PM (326rv)
Posted by: The AoSHQ Concern Desk at December 23, 2015 01:05 PM (Jj/2n)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (YjDyJ)
Because... you are.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (FkBIv)
It's Edward J. Smith, actually.
So I changed my name. As if I had anything else to do while turning into crab chow.
Posted by: zombie Capt. Alexander J. Smith RMS Titanic at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (326rv)
Posted by: troyriser
I have been at that point for awhile. Opposition in our political system is a good thing but these people want to destroy our country, values, Constitution, and on and on.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (oiNtH)
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the gop deserves all of the blame for the omnibus. They control both houses of congress. It was allowed to some to the floor for a vote and passed. That's on them.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (ZbV+0)
The thing is, for the most part I like what the Michigan GOP has been doing in-state.* Snyder handled the Detroit bankruptcy about as well as anyone could. The national guys are the ones that are driving my blood pressure.
*We even had a sex scandal just like the big states!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (hLRSq)
"Fore!"
"Four? Three an a half!"
Moe: "First, you have to address the ball."
Curly: "Hiya, ball!"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (LUgeY)
Or.... shooting the X out paper at the range.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 01:03 PM (8XRCm)
I have a 270. I think a 308 would be a better option.
270 really has no stopping power. I shot a nagura in TX, he laughed and took off.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (jJRIy)
I suggest yu use 1/2 the effort to criticize the RINO establishment as you do going after Breitbart? SHILL, yes I do believe that fits
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (DUoqb)
There. Fixed it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (nSW/N)
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:08 PM (ZbV+0)
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Yule Log??
****
Well I can't spare any paper. Not a square to spare.
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:08 PM (NeFrd)
True. And you'll use a blade or a fairway wood to putt from the edge of a cut. But don't chip on a green.
Also not mentioned: doing doughnuts on the green. Again, just don't.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:08 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:08 PM (YE6fT)
Curly: "Hiya, ball!"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:07 PM (LUgeY)
***
*cough* Ralph Cramden
*cough* Ed Norton
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (Ycswb)
I occasionally troll at the amateur webzine Slate, and I am sometimes surprised to see what stories are not even covered there. I don't think they even had more than one story on Slate about the Omnibus deal. Why? Because it does not reinforce their leftwing narrative about how Republicans are mean and awful and nasty and dirty and smelly and hateful racist scum. So the editors choose to omit stories that don't reinforce the narrative that they are selling. It is the same on all partisan media. They aren't there to educate, they are there to push a narrative. More importantly, they are there to push a narrative that strokes your ego, so that you will come back and give them more clicks/air time and feed their bottom line. It is their JOB to create a bubble. I don't blame Slate or Rush or anyone else for doing this, because that is how money is made in the modern media marketplace. I do blame individuals for not stepping outside of that bubble and becoming more informed generally.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:06 PM (ZbV+0)
I am reminded of the old Reagan quip: Don't just do something, stand there!
Which is one of those things ol' Gope just won't stand for.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (JOG+K)
Germany 1946: I was never a Hitler supporter. In fact, I'm Austrian.
USA 2008: Lightbringer! Lightbringer!
USA 2017: I was never an Obama supporter. In fact, I never voted for anyone.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (x4XMF)
One could have a lot of fun on that page. Who can out-North Korea the other in their praise of the God-Wimp?"
I read most of the comment and have to believe some of them must be satire. Not possible there are so many naive, foolish, fawning sycophants. If not, then we are in worse trouble that I though and I abandon Let It Burn in favor of SMOD.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: BIG GOVT GOP!!!!! at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:10 PM (NeFrd)
The room -- filled with lawmakers skeptical of Reid's motives -- erupted in laughter.
"I know, I know," the rookie Speaker replied with a grin, according to lawmakers in the room.
However, Reid's pledge to return to regular order on appropriations bills is facing hearty skepticism from congressional Republicans.
Posted by: Ho Lee Fuk at December 23, 2015 01:10 PM (e8kgV)
Oh, my God- scratch that, do NOT light a match!
Posted by: Stuart Mackenzie at December 23, 2015 01:10 PM (yddCj)
How do those two numbers compare?
In other words, how many of each are there? Which number is greater?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:11 PM (LUgeY)
Trump tweeted that Hillary better be very very careful when she plays the degrading women card
Of course referring to her husbands unsatiable appetites and her willingness to destroy the objects of his attentions
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:09 PM (uZNvH)
Who's we?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 01:11 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (jJRIy)
Ships in the night.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (hH08J)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (FtrY1)
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My solution: congresscritters' salary and expenses will be paid only if doing so will not create or enlarge a deficit.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (x4XMF)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:08 PM (mxCgt)
You can chip on a green. It isn't against the rules, though you might get banned from a course. A guy chipped on a green last year on the PGA (the green was ridiculously sloped and he had no chance of putting the ball anywhere near the hole, so he chipped). he tried to pick it cleanly but took a little divot. It was legal.
And another pro had broken his putter on the last round in a tournament. He wasn't allowed to replace it so he used his 7 iron. He putted magnificently with the 7 iron and made it to the playoff, at which point he was able to replace his putter ... he lost on a bad putt. The announcers laughed that he should have stuck with his 7 iron.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (zc3Db)
Isnt bureaucracy great?
Weasel Zippers
I really think School Administrators should all be fired
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 12:56 PM (DUoqb)
I suspect there's more to the story.
That said, all HR personnel need to DIAF.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (vgIRn)
At least the D party is contemptible to our face while the Vichy R's use us with no shame.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (oiNtH)
No, they actively promote it by being dishonest and pushing animosity and strife. For instance, remember when the make-up of the Steering Committee was a topic of negative conversation? The House Freedom Caucus got Ryan to agree to shake-up the Steering Committee, and Rep. Tim Huelskamp even won a spot yet talk radio and certain "news" sites completely ignored it. Yet when Huelskamp was removed from his committee posts several years ago it was a major topic of conversation. How do you explain their refusal to cover this development?
"Freedom Caucus Scores Seat on GOP's Steering Committee"- http://bit.ly/1J4MBQI
"Conservative plan would boot chairmen off Steering panel"- http://bit.ly/1NeajWy
"House GOP approves overhaul of powerful Steering panel"- http://bit.ly/1J4MV24
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Ho Lee Fuk at December 23, 2015 01:10 PM (e8kgV)
Hearty skepticism, I say!
Posted by: Charlie Brown (R) at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (uZNvH)
Ha!
Thanks for the laugh. And with that, ladies and gentlesquids, I'm out.
Posted by: Charlie Brown (R) at December 23, 2015 01:14 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (uZNvH)
I don't care if she co-founded the stite, NOW she is a SHILL, pure and simple and never met a RINO she did not like
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:14 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:13 PM (LUgeY)
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Youre such a putts.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (Dj0WE)
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And I though Blubio playing footsie with Schumer was bad.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (x4XMF)
*****
Not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (NeFrd)
But Paul Ryan is as much of the problem as Nancy Pelosi.
Did you read the article that M80'sB linked? It was actually quite informative. There is a lot of blame to go around for the crap sandwich known as the Omnibus deal, but I don't think it is at all fair to say that both Ryan and Pelosi are equally culpable. You have:
Boehner, who left Ryan holding the bag with the steaming shit sandwich inside
The House Freedom Caucus, who refused to negotiate at all, thereby guaranteeing that D votes would be needed to pass the bill, putting Pelosi in a stronger bargaining position than she deserved to be
Senate Democrats, who cynically used the filibuster to force last-minute shutdown threats and extort better deals
McConnell, who refused to do anything about the filibuster abuse
And yes Ryan, for not holding firm on at least a few key conservative demands
There is a LOT of blame to go around, it is simplistic to just pin it all on "GOPe" or "Ryan the traitor"
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (uZNvH)
Of course referring to her husbands unsatiable appetites and her willingness to destroy the objects of his attentions
Posted by: ThunderB
Excellent. I don't think that this is a road she will want to go down but if she does, the fireworks will be great.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:16 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (uZNvH)
She's been around a long time but she has changed. I like her but all of her comments are generally directed at making excuses for the Vichy GOP and downplaying their collaboration and back-stabbing treason.
It is what it is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:16 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:12 PM (uZNvH)
Thanks chemjeff because for a minute there she had me going
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 23, 2015 01:17 PM (QPdNE)
Its so obvious that attacking her role as the chief "bimbo eruption" eliminator is the way to respond and attack her claims of the war on women
yet the left and media are gobsmacked when someone suggests it
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:17 PM (zOTsN)
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If we had wanted her compassion we'd have beat it out of her.
- Big Government
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:17 PM (x4XMF)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:18 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:18 PM (T6D4w)
Come on, this is just mind boggling, Pelosi, Ried, Schumer and Obama are celebrating this omnibus as a dream come true and yet some are arguing whether or not some reporter got a fact or two wrong or if radio guys are blustering too much.
Really?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (ODxAs)
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Why should Americans negotiate with our enemies?
Bring a balanced budget to the floor and we'll vote for it.
Support the commies and we won't.
It's simple.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:18 PM (T6D4w)
THOSE went out of fashion with WW1
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (DUoqb)
Its so obvious that attacking her role as the chief "bimbo eruption"
eliminator is the way to respond and attack her claims of the war on
women
More than that, she ENABLED her husband's predatory behavior.
#ClintonRapeCulture
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (NeFrd)
******
While I do so appreciate your
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (Ycswb)
[blah ... blah ... blah ...]
Puh-leeeeease.
There is a LOT of blame to go around, it is simplistic to just pin it all on "GOPe" or "Ryan the traitor"
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:15 PM (uZNvH)
Sure there's tons of blame to go around, but Ryan is a traitorous little fuck-weasel and the Vichy GOP are a bunch of collaborationist, back-stabbing, Dem fluffers.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:20 PM (zc3Db)
Boehner passed the budget deal on his way out the door. A budget merely provides a framework and sets the top lines. Appropriators decide how that money is spent.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:20 PM (YjDyJ)
It expired. You could not buy it in Germany until it did.
You could buy it anywhere else. I have a copy.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:20 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:21 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: ThunderB
She is now taking some flak from latinos for tweets that her campaign sent out about how Hillary is like your abuela. Just like her sudden Southern black-speak, she is now trying to connect with latinos by pretending that she is just like their abuela - you know, at home in the kitchen rolling out home made tortillas.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:21 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (LUgeY)
Hey SHILL..The dems are playing hardball and the RINOs are playing girls softball.
And we are getting rick rolled.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Piercello at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (RXfvh)
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Then it should have been corrected first.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (ZbV+0)
Feel the Christmas spirit!
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (jJRIy)
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Buy Lauren's?
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B00PRBME38
Buy MPPPP's?
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B004RPRS9K
Or perhaps Christopher Taylor's?
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014TKK4RU
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (T6D4w)
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WTF happened to "school meals are the only good meals these poor chillen ever get"?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (8XRCm)
Miss 80s as you know the only power the House has is the power of the purse. Refusal to even consider a government shut down is taking away their only weapon. Like have nukes and promising to never ever use them and unilaterally disarming.
What they are doing has the appearance of dishonest brokering, if not actual dishonest brokering. We can quibble about parliamentary procedure but when you get down to it, the establishment is in FAVOR of all the spending, of amnesty, of open borders and all the rest
now either that bothers you or it doesn't
the rest is details
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (uZNvH)
*****
Sure. The rest of us are the real problem. Go with that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (Ycswb)
Art, Ace, pine tree scented rear view mirror dangly... something...!
Posted by: mindful webworker - just me? at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (qXtgU)
What they are doing has the appearance of dishonest brokering, if not actual dishonest brokering. We can quibble about parliamentary procedure but when you get down to it, the establishment is in FAVOR of all the spending, of amnesty, of open borders and all the rest
now either that bothers you or it doesn't
the rest is details
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (zOTsN)
Amen and Ditto
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (DUoqb)
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Trump talks like Speedy Gonzales.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (x4XMF)
Sweet little Abuela Thundercheeks...
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (yddCj)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (Vm8WO)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (uZNvH)
Then your powers of observation are worse than nonexistent.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (zc3Db)
I hope you don't think the GOP is pro-conservative, that would just be blind or obtuse.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (ODxAs)
Bring a balanced budget to the floor and we'll vote for it.
Support the commies and we won't.
It's simple.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:19 PM (ZbV+0)
But their refusal to negotiate led, in part, to having a more Dem-friendly bill in the end. Their actions have consequences.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (uZNvH)
It's par for the course around here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (LUgeY)
And too often we get hung up on wedge issues.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (T6D4w)
Art, Ace, pine tree scented rear view mirror dangly... something...!
Posted by: mindful webworker - just me? at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (qXtgU)
That'd be Hillary.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2015 01:26 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:18 PM (T6D4w)
I want counterbattery fire on that hippie peacenik now!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 01:26 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: mindful webworker - just me? at December 23, 2015 01:24 PM (qXtgU)
First you will suck my dick
Posted by: Mel at December 23, 2015 01:26 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:26 PM (dFi94)
*****
I recommend nose plugs with a dab of Mentholatum. Enables me to stay in here for hours. Hours on end you might say.
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:27 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (uZNvH)
And Fredo and the Dems negotiated how and when EVER.
Hey how was that negotiation on Fredocare?
Hey how was that negotiation on The Trade Bill?
Hey how was that negotiation on Iran?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:27 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: fixerupper
Those children still get their meals. It is the parents who put money into their kid's lunch account and perhaps forget to re-fill it that are penalized. A decent school would still give them lunch but then contact the parents and remind them that they need to re-load the account.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:27 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Golfer Ackbar at December 23, 2015 01:27 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM (ODxAs)
Not necessarily, no. But just look at the pro-Trump sentiment around here. He doesn't have a conservative bone in his body and yet tons of people are gaga over him.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (uZNvH)
No, I fully understand that the current mood is populist in nature and that the Republicans did earn some of that ire. My point, however, is that there is a group of people who want you to believe that every last thing done by the Republicans is a betrayal when some of their examples are contradicted by independent sources. Bill text is neither Republican nor Democrat and I have a problem with individuals who ought to know better interpreting text in the worse possible way, and even inventing a worse scenario where there is none. In other words, the Republicans deserve blame for what they have actually done, not imaginary betrayals. Increasingly, some of the items listed as betrayals did not actually occur or have been exaggerated to the worst possible scenario. These same sources outright ignore any wins by the base. Watch what happens when the House passes the budget reconciliation bill to repeal ObamaCare and defund Planned Parenthood. It will either be ignored and/or treated as a sell-out of some kind.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (T6D4w)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (LYCUN)
And when that happens, you know who is going to get fucked, and fucked good
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: chemjeff
This place is pro-conservative. What you are seeing from the GOPe IS NOT conservatism.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:29 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (YjDyJ)
*****
They are as much or even more to blame for all that they failed to do. Can you really not admit that?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (Ycswb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (LUgeY)
Incorrect.
and that the Republicans did earn some of that ire.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (YjDyJ)
LOL. Really ....
Now you have just decided to go with pure farce.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:27 PM (oiNtH)
That particular school would have given the child a PB&J and milk. But she didn't follow policy and gave her a regular lunch. There are rules in place for a reason. Total breakdown of society if they are not strictly adhered to.
Chaos.
Anarchy.
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (fWAjv)
THIS, x1000
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (LYCUN)
Me too!
Posted by: Decorative Soap in a Chappaqua Bathroom at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:29 PM (YE6fT)
Sorry, pro-Trump and pro-conservative are mutually exclusive
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (uZNvH)
I am amazed. Worse than ever.
Anyone notice the black woman driver in LV is no longer a story???
She is a Mohammedan, so, really it wasn't a terror attack.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Dr. Manbube at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (Przou)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:20 PM (zc3Db)
Very simple question. Who exactly quadrupled the H2B visa count.
Then tell me again how the GOPe is actually doing that which they were elected to do.
The prosecution rests.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (JOG+K)
Chemjeff, no Trump is not a conservative. I think those people know it, they believe he is an alternative to no representation.
But yes or no, do you think after this omnibus that the GOP led congress is conservative?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (ODxAs)
Well, maintaining the status quo is 'conservatism'. Maybe that's the nuance we're missing in chemjeff's arguments.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:28 PM (YjDyJ) time will tell. I don't think they will do it
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: lady in stall next to Hillary! at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (HgMAr)
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So we should just disregard the dems gloating over this, especially Schumer who said even the congressional dems can't believe what they got. That it's much more than they would have asked even if they held the majority in congress.
Ryan being congratulated by Fredo is enough to know just how bad this bill is.
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (uZNvH)
******
Bull. Shit.
See 747.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (Ycswb)
Stick around.
Posted by: Piercello at December 23, 2015 01:22 PM (RXfvh)
Seconded!
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (JO9+V)
we shouldn't name call. we can disagree without that
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (zOTsN)
Ha ha.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: chemjeff
No one has said he is. It HAS been said the he is the FU bomb to the GOPe. At least a dozen times a day for over a month.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:25 PM
Chemmie I luvs ya, but I think you're really off base.
Let me remind you of something, & I hope you will really reflect on it:
Legislative gridlock is a design feature of the Founders & Framers, not a flaw.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 23, 2015 01:32 PM (Vm8WO)
can tell. What has changed is the general tone of the commentariat here.
It has gone from dick schlong jokes and accidental lesbian pr0n,
and generally pro-conservative tendencies, to a self-reinforcing bubble
of negativity and despair. I mean for heaven's sake, just reporting on
what the GOP is doing is now a basis for attack if that reporting isn't
slanted to fit the prevailing narrative here that "everything sucks and
they are all out to get us and Reps/Dems are the same and blah blah
blah". That is why I had to take a break from this place for a while. It
is no longer pro-conservative, I think.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:23 PM (uZNvH)
Seconded!
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2015 01:33 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: lady in stall next to Hillary! at December 23, 2015 01:33 PM (HgMAr)
photo card that quickly became the talk of the Internet. There's been no
card since 2013, and two years without a Kardashian Kristmas Kard is
hitting some folks hard.
That story is right up there with Obama's 40 yard chip shot! And thats why I worry about Hillary as President!
Posted by: Colin at December 23, 2015 01:33 PM (T3Tpd)
I took geology not chemistry, alas...
Posted by: mindful webworker - randomly at December 23, 2015 01:33 PM (qXtgU)
What has changed is the general tone of the commentariat here. It has gone from
Being marginalized by "your" president, ignored by your putative party and dismissed as a racist, Bible-humping, sister-clutching hick when you express support for a candidate has a way of giving one the sadz.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:35 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:35 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Grandma Hill's Tuba Practice Resonance Chamber at December 23, 2015 01:35 PM (NeFrd)
I think most people might prefer something else for the holiday unless they're into scatology.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (dFi94)
They are as much or even more to blame for all that they failed to do. Can you really not admit that?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (Ycswb)
Yes yes I know, there are a lot of people who have political 'strategies' dreamed up in their basements, who urge Republicans to do things like "shutting down the government for 3 years until we get our way" and that they will force everyone around them to concede and they will walk away victorious and winners.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:31 PM (jJRIy)
There's a cartoon in my local rag mocking the GOP candidates for being "hysterical" about terrorism. Yeah, it's nothing to be concerned about at all. Not like global warming.
I have no doubt the rag would have published the Cruz cartoon without blinking an eye.
I only glance at the damn paper when I'm at work. It is a matter of some satisfaction to me that they've taken to giving away the rag at local supermarkets - and people still refuse to take it even when it's free.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (u0lmX)
I think this republican civil war is very cleanly split based on one issue. Illegal immigration. Not even conservative vs GOPe vs liberal.
Either you are comfortable with a massive onslaught of all types of illegal immigration or you aren't. Once you know where someone stands on illegal immigration, you know how they feel about the Republican establishment
its really a one issue wedge
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:37 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:37 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: lady in stall next to Hillary! at December 23, 2015 01:37 PM (HgMAr)
I love the part where they kept all the money in but reduced accountability, that's just sooo GOPe.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2015 01:37 PM (DL2i+)
But, but, but, it's not the GOPe's fault! *footstomp footstomp*
They only have two houses of government!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:38 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (uZNvH)
All I can say is that you're lucky there's a safe-space violation banning policy, here ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:38 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2015 01:38 PM (LYCUN)
Say, apropos of nothing, what would be the six-dollar chem name for H2O? Dihydrogen monoxide? Dihydrous?
I took geology not chemistry, alas...
Posted by: mindful webworker - randomly at December 23, 2015 01:33 PM (qXtgU)
The formal name would be "hydrogen oxide" but "water" is just as acceptable name.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (8ZskC)
That is incorrect. Authorizing committees have the power to make policy and address Administration overreach. The problem is that the Republicans in both bodies have not always taken advantage of that power.
I also reject the notion that the SCOAMF would somehow defund all of what he considers to be his most important priorities if only the Republicans applied more pressure. He is an ideologue of the worst kind. I realize this idea that the House has unilateral power to defund items at will became popular during the shutdown but it is incorrect. Any defunding measures must be passed by both bodies and signed by the president or his veto must be overridden.
* The Constitution, Article I, Section 7, first paragraph: "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: lady in stall next to Hillary! at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (HgMAr)
in fact it isn't really even republican vs dem, it pro illegal immigration vs anti illegal immigration. It crosses party lines, ideological lines, all of them
If that's your concern, if you see it very closely tied to national security, Trump is very appealing. The establishment created Trump, and continues to sustain him with everything they do.
Like quadrupling the H1B1 visas
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (zOTsN)
Come to think of it, an Oval Office with windows needs an Oval Seat, doesn't it?
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (+c55T)
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That Ryan would even consider looking for commie votes says everything that needs to be said about him and his apologists.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (ZbV+0)
But just look at the pro-Trump sentiment around here. He doesn't have a conservative bone in his body and yet tons of people are gaga over him.
I'm "gaga" over Trump (if you can call it that) because he's what I want in a putative GOP candidate - someone who will punch back twice as hard at the MFM and their Dem allies.
What I think of his policies, such as they are, is an entirely different story.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You didn't paint that!!
j/k
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (dFi94)
I believe the proper term is schlonged.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (ODxAs)
National news saying LV killer couldn't be a terrorist, she had a kid in the car.
Hello. CA killers left their kid and then killed 14.
I have ammo and guns.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (jJRIy)
It is virgin eggnog or adulterated?
Since FenelonSpouse is not driving the school bus tomorrow we are going to have mulled wine tonight and watch Alistair Sims in "A Christmas Carol"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: scottst at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (idA6q)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:37 PM (zOTsN)
It's not really about illegal immigration. I think everyone on the right, and probably about half on the left if you pin them down, are fine with securing the border.
I think the larger issue is *immigration* itself, both legal and illegal, and its effects on the *culture*. THAT is not strictly left vs. right.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (uZNvH)
its really a one issue wedge
Posted by: ThunderB
And we get the atomic wedgie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (FkBIv)
Newsprint like that is very useful for lighting fires (fireplace, woodstove, charcoal chimney), so take lots for the free copies!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (ftVQq)
I'm not sure if this is projection on her part or what, but really the only thing missing is "But but but, FAUX NEWS" from these little rants.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (Wckf4)
Show of hands. How many of you fine gentlemen have your presents both bought AND wrapped ?
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (dFi94)
They have been bought. Not all have been wrapped.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (jJRIy)
That is incorrect. Authorizing committees have the power to make policy and address Administration overreach. The problem is that the Republicans in both bodies have not always taken advantage of that power.
Republicans have BOTH bodies
they own this. all of it
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:42 PM (zOTsN)
Since FenelonSpouse is not driving the school bus tomorrow we are
going to have mulled wine tonight and watch Alistair Sims in "A
Christmas Carol"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (qES5k)
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I have both kinds. And the Alistair Sims version is the best one, I think. Is that on network TV or are you watching a DVD? I can never figure out how to make my DVD thing work.
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:43 PM (dFi94)
We all know the Republican Party is a coalition built up from different factions with different interests. To keep the coalition together all of the factions require, from time to time, that the party go out and fight for - honestly fight - one of the interests of each faction. A rational non-arrogant leadership would remember that.
Unfortunately the national Republican leadership screwed up that one basic rule of keeping a coalition together. Not only did they fail to honestly fight for something, anything, that the conservative base wanted, they have joined in disparaging their conservative base.
They are reaping the disdain that they sowed.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 01:43 PM (hLRSq)
Sorry, they're not. You've had this explained to you numerous times.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 23, 2015 01:43 PM (Wckf4)
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (Fmupd)
No, I need the fancy term. Well, dang it, "hydrogen oxide" just doesn't fit the meter here at all.
You sure? What do you know about chemistry?
Oh... right...
* sighing, furiously erasing... *
Posted by: mindful webworker - wetly at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (qXtgU)
The house is burning, the children are trapped and Miss80s is arguing that Paul Ryan did indeed save that lamp.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (ODxAs)
I think the larger issue is *immigration* itself, both legal and illegal, and its effects on the *culture*. THAT is not strictly left vs. right.
Posted by: chemjeff I said it isn't strictly right vs leftand you are wrong if you think the establishment left wants to secure the border. and NEITHER does the establishment right. free flow of workers blah blah blah
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2015 01:41 PM (jJRIy)
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I'd say that's pretty good on the whole. Here - have some eggnog.
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (dFi94)
So, scramble mode as usual.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2015 01:44 PM (JO9+V)
Yes, this can be illustrated with a simple Zenn diagram!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 01:45 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at December 23, 2015 01:45 PM (ucB75)
Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at December 23, 2015 01:45 PM (Ryyyx)
We're so old fashioned it is a tape. We still have a machine that plays it. 27 years plus of having FS repeat the lines to me before they happen. Apparently this is a family tradition. He enjoys it so. His father did the same thing. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:46 PM (qES5k)
You're kidding, right? It's not even Christmas Eve yet!
Posted by: mindful webworker - lackadaisically at December 23, 2015 01:46 PM (qXtgU)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:46 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:39 PM (ZbV+0)
Okay let's play this out a bit.
Ryan puts everything that the HFC wants into the bill. It passes the House but fails in the Senate and the government shuts down. I know this is what YOU want, but this is a minority view. The Dems have the president, time, the media, and a majority of the people on their side. Republicans eventually would cave *anyway*, but after doing a ton of PR damage and ending up with the same deal anyway, or probably even worse because Dingy Harry would have extorted even more concessions out of Republicans.
Oh but that is not what you think would happen. You think that if good solid conservative Republicans stand firm and don't give in to the Senate's blackmail threats, that they can somehow carry the day. I don't think that is likely.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:47 PM (uZNvH)
You'll all be shocked to hear that there's a wikipedia page devoted to the issue...
There are many names for it that are correct, like hydroxilic acid. Other than water, though, the IUPUC recommends oxidane.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:47 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:40 PM (dFi94)
Bought.
Wrapped.
Shipped.
Two weeks ago.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 01:48 PM (hLRSq)
Still waiting for mine to be delivered. Sometime today, supposedly.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 23, 2015 01:48 PM (bZ7mE)
before they happen. Apparently this is a family tradition. He enjoys it
so. His father did the same thing. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:46 PM (qES5k)
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I think that's a wonderful tradition. Last night we watched "The Bishop's Wife" with Cary Grant, David Niven and Loretta Young. It was on DVD but my son is up from South Carolina and he knows how to do these sorts of things.
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:48 PM (dFi94)
To what promises are you referring? With regards to the omnibus, my position was that either the Syrian refugee bill or changes to the visa waiver program would be in it. Initial reports stated that it was the former, and both House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers as well as Speaker Ryan pushed for it to be included in the final product. The problem was Democratic leadership in both bodies. My statement that the Senate is going to consider the Syrian refugee bill next year is based on reports from congressional correspondents. From everything I read regarding omnibus negotiations, Republican leadership in both bodies kept expectations low and I set my expectations accordingly. An overwhelming majority of the promises regarding riders were made by then-Speaker Boehner.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (YjDyJ)
Wrapped.
Shipped.
Two weeks ago.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2015 01:48 PM (hLRSq)
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You get all the eggnog.
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (dFi94)
P.S. I hate you ignorant fucking hicks. Die in a fire. But first, vote Jeb!
Posted by: Jeb Bush Severe Conservative at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: tu3031 at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (YFFpo)
I'm still hoping for the hair to eat DC.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (DL2i+)
Me! But still getting a few more little things for the stockings.
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: HH at December 23, 2015 01:49 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 23, 2015 01:50 PM (pxwYc)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:47 PM (+c55T)
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Isn't that the laxative that had the singing cowboy for it's ad?
Posted by: Soona at December 23, 2015 01:50 PM (Fmupd)
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Was that a comment about presents or congress?
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:50 PM (ZbV+0)
Ryan puts everything that the HFC wants into the bill. It passes the House but fails in the Senate and the government shuts down
and you assume the Republican senate doesn't pass it
and that is the issue
if they were to be united and force Obama to veto I am not so sure "the majority of the people" would side with him. I think they would blame Obama, rightfully so
but they will never do that because the leadership has the SAME goals as the democrats
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:51 PM (zOTsN)
That is one of my favorite holiday films!. I was supposed to go see it at my friend's house on Tuesday but I was sick! We're hoping we can reschedule it before New Year's Day!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2015 01:51 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: mindful webworker - corgi whistling at December 23, 2015 01:51 PM (qXtgU)
Hadmy first and secondMoscow mule last night. In what was, in retrospect, a regrettably short time span.
Its basically Fresca, but after two your face is completely numb and driving is not advisable.
Posted by: simplemind at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (JTwsP)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:36 PM (uZNvH)
*****
Yeah, surrender monkeying is definitely the way to win hearts and minds. IMO, you are hopeless.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (Ycswb)
Name several items you think would have been enthusiastically appreciated and supported by the conservative base that were contained in this Ryan McConnell Democrat approved budget!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (ftVQq)
Yes chemjeff, with nearing 20 T in debt, I expect them to shut it down on principle even if it costs them EVERY seat in congress.
But you see, they care only about their privilege as elites. They care nothing about you. Nothing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (fWAjv)
There is a divide between those who want all immigration halted, or at least slowed to a trickle, and those that want illegal immigration halted and illegals already here dealt with according to the law but don't mind legal immigration.
Not sure if that is what Chemjeff meant, but I do think it is an important distinction. Somehow it is assumed around here that the only conservative position is to halt all immigration absolutely.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (bZ7mE)
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They've never done any PR damage in previous shutdowns, so there's no reason to think it would happen this time, particularly with a lame duck president.
Posted by: Methos at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 01:47 PM (+c55T)
Huh, well that is silly.
H2S is hydrogen sulfide
H2Se is hydrogen selenide
You would think H2O is hydrogen oxide.
But that is IUPAC for you.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:53 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2015 01:30 PM (zOTsN)
Also in keeping with Ace's banning policy on personal attacks with those that we disagree with.
Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2015 01:53 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: johnd01 at December 23, 2015 01:54 PM (ukNFU)
That is incorrect. As I have previously stated, the tax extenders bill is a better bill than the omnibus and the omnibus is a mixed bag, but there are some policy wins for conservatives, from the usual pro-lifers riders plus several extra provisions to preventing a potential risk corridor bailout to protecting free speech and prohibiting targeting of conservatives to cutting EPA spending to 2008 levels to lifting the oil export ban to increasing defense spending, among others.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:54 PM (YjDyJ)
So ... you seem to think that the President always has to get whatever he wants in the budget (for years when we do have an actual budget ... but just budgetless spending for the case of this Precedent)? Is that really what you think? You laugh at the Founders' notion that the House has any powers over the budget ... since you are immediately ready to toss anything that the Senate or Oval Office occupant might reject. To you, the House is nothing but a rubber stamp for the Senate and White House.
LOL.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 23, 2015 01:54 PM (zc3Db)
Yes chemjeff, with nearing 20 T in debt, I expect them to shut it
down on principle even if it costs them EVERY seat in congress.
But you see, they care only about their privilege as elites. They care nothing about you. Nothing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 23, 2015 01:52 PM (ODxAs)
Then the next Congress, full of socialists, will just ratchet up the debt to $30 T. Would that be a better result?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:55 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:47 PM (uZNvH)Since it's never been tried, who can say?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:56 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2015 01:56 PM (X6fMO)
I think a more likely result is that Republicans will cave, because the people - THEIR voters too - actually want big government.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 23, 2015 01:58 PM (uZNvH)
The primary problem in the Senate is the minority's ability to obstruct. As noted upthread, Senate Democrats filibustered the Defense Appropriations bill three times. If McConnell wants to limit the power that Senate Democrats have over appropriations while in the minority, then he needs to embrace limited filibuster reform.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 01:58 PM (YjDyJ)
House originates all tax/spending measures per const. Senate adds it's changes and conference comm. and report are final bill that must be signed/vetoed by pres.
You don't fund things you oppose, esp. important things. Pres. can veto; other party can filibuster bill(s) before it reaches final vote. But they cannot *add* desired funding on their own.
When you allow the govt. to be funded by omnibus CR vs. historic norm of 12 separate approps. bills, you get "shutdown theater". And - you surrender almost all political leverage.
If you don't make the opposition or the WH "own" their wildly unpopular/disastrous policies, in both filibuster or veto context, and you don't husband your leverage by insisting on 12 approps bills in which targeted policies can be isolated and made the issue - you are not doing even the basics of budget politics as they've been done forever.
This is ultra-condensed version. Bottom line: those railing against GOP are correct even if they don't pinpoint all the reasons why, and your explanations are partial and do NOT address the central issue. The GOP has massive political/process power it gained through elections that is has not even dusted off, much less used in a serious manner.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2015 02:00 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: chemjeff
Your counsel, then, is to do nothing that the Dem media disapproves of. Hey, the GOPe reads the same paper!
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 02:00 PM (+c55T)
Oh come now, a severe conservative like McConnell is doing all he can in the Senate...
and doing a better job of it than Reid ever did.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2015 02:01 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 02:04 PM (YjDyJ)
But that is IUPAC for you.
Yeah, I don't know. I didn't even spell 'IUPAC' right. I thought "hydrogen hydroxide" was cute, though.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2015 02:07 PM (oFSUK)
Right, but that is not the way the process has worked in some time. I also wholeheartedly agree with you regarding leverage. That is a major problem that needs to be addressed, which is why I support limited filibuster reform. GOP Leadership in both bodies allowed the appropriations process to be derailed several months ago, and there were steps they could have taken to avoid it.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 02:08 PM (YjDyJ)
chemjeff, too many words to unpack your misunderstanding of the political dyanmics of "shut-down". You also do not understand the gerrymandering of House seats which makes wholessale turnover extremely improbable.
Circular reasoning underlies most of this - cannot oppose unpopular policies because press will kill us if govt. shuts down, cannot avoid CR/omnibus because filibusters will lead to shut-down, and press will kill us.
This is as consequential a topic as there is, but this is mostly not a serious discussion. Nothing personal thought, intended, implied.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2015 02:08 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: juneshelton at December 23, 2015 02:11 PM (0d6wl)
And note: the process mechanics are merely the tools, the key missing ingredient has been the will/desire/decision to DO something meaningful, esp. since the 2010 mid-terms and then indefensibly since the Senate take-over.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2015 02:12 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2015 10:33 AM (iynDC)
I travel with my liberal sisters all the time. I just told them not to discuss politics or I won't travel with them. I often have to remind them what not to discuss but they are pretty good about shutting up when I do remind them.
Posted by: marinemom at December 23, 2015 02:17 PM (y3lnU)
Posted by: MAx at December 23, 2015 02:18 PM (LAliD)
Again, I agree, and there are two major reasons for that. The first is that the people who should be going to the mat for their policy provisions are taking themselves out of the negotiation process before it even begins, while the second is that, especially in this case, GOP Leadership in both bodies allowed the minority to derail the process some months ago. That is why I keep saying that process determines outcomes. A better process - specifically following the rules from start to finish - yields a better outcome.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 23, 2015 02:20 PM (YjDyJ)
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