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I put a lot of stuff in the sidebar. I don't really have much to say today, except the world is doomed and will not be lamented.
Update; Trump's proposal has more opposition than I expected -- NBC/the WSJ finds, if you can believe them, and you will be excused for deciding you cannot, that 57% of Americans oppose Trump's ban. Suspiciously, the actual question asked is not reported. (There is a question posed above the poll findings, but I don't know if that's the actual question, or just the digest for this report. And usually a question will have a preamble, such as "Donald Trump has recently proposed...' This preamble can be written very negatively to lead respondents towards a desired answer.) Oh, and this hacker says he's found proof of spaceships. But not UFOs -- America has a fleet of deep-space warships, he says. Um, this country couldn't build a f***ing website under this incompetent foreign-seeming drifter's guidance. We're not building Enterprise-class space battleships.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: tmitsss at December 10, 2015 07:29 PM (Pa9vP)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 07:30 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2015 07:30 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: tmitsss at December 10, 2015 07:30 PM (Pa9vP)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:30 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:31 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 07:31 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 07:32 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Jake at December 10, 2015 07:32 PM (QelBn)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 07:33 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Marshawn Lynch at December 10, 2015 07:33 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 10, 2015 07:33 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:33 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: taryn onthenews at December 10, 2015 07:34 PM (dp7Vd)
"He endorsed Huckabee in 2008 and Satorum in 2012 and both won the caucuses. He's a kingmaker."
Kingmaker, bitches.
I guessed I slept right through those reigns.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 10, 2015 07:34 PM (/pB9Z)
But we're out of milk.
Posted by: ALH at December 10, 2015 07:34 PM (Z56vq)
Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at December 10, 2015 07:35 PM (BO/km)
I have no comment. I do get to wear my party dress tomorrow night! When it is going to be 75 degrees which doesn't feel very christmasy but I guess at least I won't be cold...
Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 07:36 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:33 PM (+eR2D)
Nah. Same old same old.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2015 07:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:37 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:37 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM (FkBIv)
tomorrow night! When it is going to be 75 degrees which doesn't feel
very christmasy but I guess at least I won't be cold...
Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 07:36 PM (vmMMi)
Hi Lea, it's always fun to dress up for a night. Christmas party? I think it's going to be 80 degrees here tomorrow in DFW, which is totally not christmasy, so I feel your pain.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM (+eR2D)
-Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:37 PM (+eR2D)
If it was "adults", no. "Likely Voters", however, would be a nice sample-size.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:39 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by Ace at 07:28 PM
.....................
We can`t get a crew to low earth orbit! The SLS and Orion are still two full years out from their first test flight!!!
Posted by: Rino sanctuary at December 10, 2015 07:40 PM (Pyr1a)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 10, 2015 07:40 PM (/pB9Z)
Posted by: John Crichton at December 10, 2015 07:40 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2015 07:40 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Earl T at December 10, 2015 07:40 PM (fpd99)
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 07:41 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:42 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 07:43 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2015 07:43 PM (z/Ubi)
Murphy delivered, per contract, polls showing
1-Carson in front
2-Cruz in front; and now
3-Americans want prefer to be butchered by muzzies rather than deny them their constitutional right to enter and kill at will
Murphy is the Go To guy to slay the Trump dragon.
Posted by: anti-socialist at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (o9lmn)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (rJnvs)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:39 PM (OQ9R7)
It is of "adults" of course. And their graph shows it as "ALL AMERICANS".
Fuck the media and fuck their polls.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (+eR2D)
I know! Ordinarily 70 degree weather is awesome, I'm just tired of the long summer this year.
But at least I don't need hose!
Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (vmMMi)
Maybe it's just time and change marching on. Still it sucks.
Posted by: freaked at December 10, 2015 07:45 PM (BO/km)
Bullshitery.
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 07:45 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: tu3031 at December 10, 2015 07:46 PM (YFFpo)
Fuck the media and fuck their polls."
-Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (+eR2D)
*HAH!*
...waiter? I'll have what she's having.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:46 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:46 PM (+eR2D)
allows an elite team of Air Force officers, an Egyptologist and their
alien companion to travel the galaxy and defeat evil space parasites.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2015 07:43 PM (z/Ubi)<<<
Indeed.
Posted by: Teal'c at December 10, 2015 07:46 PM (H9MG5)
"Would you support efforts by the government to punish all members of a religion simply because a few have committed crimes?"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 07:47 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 10, 2015 07:47 PM (qamN8)
Posted by: anti-socialist at December 10, 2015 07:47 PM (o9lmn)
I enjoy some of this stuff, but you've got to take it with more than a grain or two of salt and consider it just entertainment.
This conspiracy can run parallel with the UFO shit or be completely opposed to it (there are no aliens, it's all us). The idea is there were breakthroughs made way back and they were kept secret. And there's a strain that holds this is *ancient*, that there is a privileged elite that is in the know of the true history of humans on this planet, and that includes spacefaring technology.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 07:47 PM (dvuhZ)
Maybe it's just time and change marching on. Still it sucks."
-Posted by: freaked at December 10, 2015 07:45 PM (BO/km)
That's the way life is for most, I guess. It is made that way, so near the end, you really, really, really just want to be somewhere else.
Meeting Jesus ain't a bad idea, then.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:48 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 07:48 PM (2oWD2)
mouth breathers! Any place that has prosciutto and mozzarella pannini
sammiches, dark chocolate and dark beer as the usual fare at highway gas
stops is a good place! Not a lotta Christmas lights and decorations
here though.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 10, 2015 07:47 PM (qamN
Dude, I saw the "truck stop" food photos you posted and holy crap.... *droooooool*
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:48 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at December 10, 2015 07:49 PM (c8V4N)
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 07:49 PM (2oWD2)
Then again, maybe that's how they want me to feel....
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (TxJGV)
The USDSS Gabby Giffords is going places.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (0NdlF)
Are people just going insane or what?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (rJnvs)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (c8V4N)
Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (vmMMi)
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Go on...
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 07:51 PM (TxJGV)
They are likely up to no-good. But whether that no-good involves terrorism, they don't know.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 07:52 PM (dvuhZ)
That's right. I want to rosy-up those lil' grin-supplements.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 07:52 PM (OQ9R7)
from ever entering the country again and killing all Muslims who
currently live here, which is a very racist and unConstitutional idea.
Do you agree or disagree with his policy?"
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:46 PM (+eR2D)
I will have to "disagree" as it seems that something is being held back.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 07:52 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)
Ancient African secrets?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 07:53 PM (FkBIv)
Cruz 2016
Posted by: buford_ho at December 10, 2015 07:54 PM (8/xTS)
Posted by: tu3031 at December 10, 2015 07:54 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 07:55 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 07:55 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2015 07:56 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 07:56 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 07:56 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: JEB at December 10, 2015 07:56 PM (OiFtZ)
The deep space warships have only minor flaws, one is when you open the porthole to aim the cannons all your air escapes.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 07:57 PM (HgMAr)
That should be a jeopardy question - for the daily double
Posted by: dufuss at December 10, 2015 07:57 PM (8/xTS)
Posted by: jewells45 at December 10, 2015 07:57 PM (5fvBZ)
Kind of pissed I didn't get the call, but whaddaya gonna do?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2015 07:57 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: steevy at December 10, 2015 07:58 PM (8HTq1)
Also, the turds keep floating out of the toilets.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 07:58 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 07:58 PM (erRNA)
I really hate the msm
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 07:59 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: The GOP at December 10, 2015 07:59 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: could be at December 10, 2015 07:59 PM (PGh+Q)
Laugh at them when it turns out they needed the telephone sanitizers.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 08:00 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: jewells45
Kinda funny, I guess? I don't really care for the UFOs and goofy Reagan stuff but other than that it's been great.
Posted by: Dang at December 10, 2015 08:00 PM (2oWD2)
-Posted by: jewells45 at December 10, 2015 07:57 PM (5fvBZ)
Since it is an entirely true story with only the names changed, I must now believe in Extraterrestrial life what runs big, light-y spaceships.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 08:00 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (wp7uW)
*in very small typeset* - gunshots and "What you talkin bout honkey mofo" responses were logged as "disagree"
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (+eR2D)
question posed above the poll findings, but I don't know if that's the
actual question, or just the digest for this report. And usually a
question will have a preamble, such as 'Donald Trump has recently
proposed...' This preamble can be written very negatively to lead
respondents towards a desired answer.)"
I recall one of the 'ettes (and eternal shame upon me for not remembering which one in order to give her proper credit for this) advancing the sound rule of thumb that "All polls are push polls."
Posted by: torquewrench at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: jewells45 at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (5fvBZ)
Posted by: AL SHARPTON at December 10, 2015 08:02 PM (9YDUz)
I polled my immediate family, and we are 100% in disagreement with Donald Trump's hatred for Muslims and jihad.
Posted by: Mohammad al Faisel Mohammad at December 10, 2015 08:02 PM (OiFtZ)
They have spent untold govt contract money on developing the perfect space toilet. It's still not the best in the world.
That would actually be a show stopper for me about spaceflight.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:02 PM (dvuhZ)
me for not remembering which one in order to give her proper credit for
this) advancing the sound rule of thumb that "All polls are push polls."
Posted by: torquewrench at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (noWW6)
Lauren? I think that may have been her.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 08:03 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: jewells45 at December 10, 2015 08:04 PM (5fvBZ)
Hard to match that with the other polls showing his support rising and a majority of Americans supporting his idea. Its almost as if, what is it? Oh yes, polls are BS.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 08:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (HgMAr)
I think Trump is taking extreme positions because he's seeking attention.
-Austin Goolsbee, Obama Buttboy
Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (7+yyM)
-Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:02 PM (dvuhZ)
Come for the unique views and experiences.
Stay for the floating turds what bounce around the ship.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (yp4bV)
But not UFOs -- America has a fleet of deep-space warships, he says.
The USDSS Gabby Giffords is going places.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 07:50 PM (0NdlF)
Not with those plumbing problems it won't. Crew needs to work on the hole in the head.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 08:06 PM (o98Jz)
Murphy delivered, per contract, polls showing
1-Carson in front
2-Cruz in front; and now
3-Americans want prefer to be butchered by muzzies rather than deny them their constitutional right to enter and kill at will
Murphy is the Go To guy to slay the Trump dragon.
Posted by: anti-socialist at December 10, 2015 07:44 PM (o9lmn)
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I do find it suspect that 3 polls come out showing decent\majority support for it... and then nbc comes out with one that shows the opposite.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:06 PM (MbrzC)
Just sayin.......
Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 10, 2015 08:06 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 10, 2015 08:07 PM (rJnvs)
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at December 10, 2015 08:07 PM (H9MG5)
http://on.wsj.com/1SRc28B
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 08:08 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 08:08 PM (+eR2D)
Cruz 2016
Posted by: buford_ho at December 10, 2015 07:54 PM (8/xTS)
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Don't worry, when their done with Trump, Cruz is next.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:08 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), (T) at December 10, 2015 08:08 PM (OQ9R7)
That would actually be a show stopper for me about spaceflight.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:02 PM (dvuhZ)
Pretty simple really: inject fresh liquid oxygen up each crewmember's arse once a day, surgically remove frozen shit, toss dead bodies out airlock. Also, we were never trying to actually get people to Mars, that was a ruse for the "brown glass" scenes we filmed and are now showing in limited release at certain specialty German theatres.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (k9qR4)
Huge 10 minute long gun fight followed by spaceship.
wut?
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (qUNWi)
They have spent untold govt contract money on developing the perfect space toilet. It's still not the best in the world.
.............
Word.
Posted by: Howard Wolowitz at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (HgMAr)
And no one should ever have been allowed to steal the name "Orion" for a spacecraft. That honor should have been permanently reserved for the original Project Orion from the now departed era of big, brave, bold, proud, imaginative, slightly insane engineering.
No pussyfooting around with that design. POWERED BY NUCLEAR BOMBS, BITCHES. Earth to Saturn and back in a summer vacation.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (wp7uW)
Posted by: Everything Is Awesome at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (MbrzC)
And people think the moon landing was a hoax!
Hah! I say.
Trump is really a robot from the future sent back to insure the United States doesn't fall to the socialists who would start WWIII and nuke us all back to the stone age.
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 10, 2015 08:10 PM (dj+Mk)
Posted by: Maxine Waters, D-CA at December 10, 2015 08:10 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Maxine Waters, D-CA at December 10, 2015 08:10 PM (OiFtZ)
Racist!
Posted by: Loretta Sanchez at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (8ZskC)
I don't care how hot you get it.
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (qUNWi)
This is an unholy obsession, and if some of it is coming from the Right it's even worse on the Left.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Ron "Hedgehog" Jeremy at December 10, 2015 08:12 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (wp7uW)
Turns out there's a pretty bad vomiting problem with small-diameter centrifugal gravity simulators. You can use 'em okay if the victims are strapped in, but try doing what Bowman does in 2001 (jogging around the circumference) and you'll crack your head on a computer terminal, send your lunch everywhere, and vow to never do so again.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (k9qR4)
Ben Bova, the longtime SF author and editor, has a story about getting snail mail from one of the authors in his publishing stable, Spider Robinson.
Robinson had included a diagram of the latest and greatest NASA zero-gee toilet design, and added an arrow highlighting the rotating waste separation impeller.
He added, "Ben: near as I can figure, the shit is _supposed_ to hit the fan."
Posted by: torquewrench at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (noWW6)
"At least 4 reported incidents of suspicious phone purchases across Missouri"
http://tinyurl.com/ngxgpj2
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Hank Johnson, D-GA at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Maxine Waters, D-CA
It is obvious that we have reached the tipping point.
Posted by: Hank Johnson D-GA at December 10, 2015 08:14 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: rebel flounder at December 10, 2015 08:14 PM (3dOE/)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 08:14 PM (pLwjI)
Posted by: Furious George at December 10, 2015 08:15 PM (RIzwy)
But what ISIS says it wants, or doesn't want, does not factor into policy decisions. What should factor in is how to destroy ISIS. So what if they go to al-nar with a smile on the charred remnants of their faces.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 08:15 PM (6FqZa)
I think its OK, though, because it's World Government money and not American.
Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 08:15 PM (TxJGV)
If they dump Trump at the convention, I will be the wings tanned, rested, and ready for the call!
Posted by: Goober Romney at December 10, 2015 08:15 PM (OiFtZ)
Loretta's not so bad.
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: jewells45 at December 10, 2015 08:01 PM (5fvBZ)
Nah, George W. was grooving on the "Peace Corps at gunpoint will make them love us" thing.
The most rational proposal was simply baring all from antagonistic/oppressive muslim dominated societies from getting visas to the US, indefinitely.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (T78UI)
Wonder what would happen if you flew a drone over Area 51.
That could be...interesting.
Posted by: HH at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Lougie Fantanella at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: The Donald at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Everything Is Awesome at December 10, 2015 08:18 PM (MbrzC)
If you add one teaspoon of shit to a glass bowl it's still shit.
I don't care how hot you get it.
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:11 PM (qUNWi)
One of you reprobates had the piss/wine analogy. That if you took a half glass of wine and filled up the rest with piss, a leftist would argue that you've improved the piss rather than ruined the wine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 08:18 PM (o98Jz)
Sucks, but that's the name of that tune.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 10, 2015 08:18 PM (WVvzl)
Wonder what would happen if you flew a drone over Area 51.
That could be...interesting.
You double daring me, dawg?
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:18 PM (qUNWi)
Here's another thing we didn't build. I found it linked at Instapundit:
https://tinyurl.com/ougwy6o
NASA's first idea for a space station, circa 1960, using a spent Atlas rocket as a hull. I remember building a plastic model of it when I was a kid.
The author of the article, Anatoly Zak, is an expert on Russian space history and his website (linked at the end) is excellent.
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (sdi6R)
Do you think your future or your children's futures will be better for this?
I mean, what's the fucking frequency, Kenneth?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (qNZ3I)
Trump should draw Mohammed and post it
Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (yp4bV)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (dj+Mk)
"At least 4 reported incidents of suspicious phone purchases across Missouri"
http://tinyurl.com/ngxgpj2
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (ppaKI)
Strict burner phone control laws would stop terrorists from being able to communicate with each other.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: The Donald at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (HgMAr)
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I'm yuuuge with the people of mars! Beautiful people, they love me there by the way.
Posted by: DJT at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:20 PM (1pRZc)
Posted by: Cliff at December 10, 2015 08:21 PM (JgEkO)
Trump should draw Mohammed and post it
Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (yp4bV)
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Ha ha. Now that would be blatantly for attention, but still, good times none the less.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:21 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:21 PM (wp7uW)
Curious non-sequitur.
At the least, you know shit from shinola.
Posted by: fluffy at December 10, 2015 08:21 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Vilos Cohaagen at December 10, 2015 08:21 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (wp7uW)
ISS is only 100m across, not wide enough to use centrifugal force for artificial gravity.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:22 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 10, 2015 08:23 PM (dj+Mk)
Posted by: Darth Helmet, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sith Lord.... at December 10, 2015 08:23 PM (m/RW8)
Curious non-sequitur.
At the least, you know shit from shinola.
Someone said something about glass and shit.
Unless I'm trippin. Which, y'know....
possible.
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:24 PM (qUNWi)
I hope it's true, but I'm sure all those trillions were simply stolen and pissed away for nothing.
Posted by: Jaws at December 10, 2015 08:24 PM (Rbtz3)
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:25 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: KenH at December 10, 2015 08:25 PM (67f1X)
Because winning in Iowa means breathless speculations about who's in first what does it mean in New Hampshire omg!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 08:26 PM (4ErVI)
http://tinyurl.com/ngxgpj2
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (ppaKI)
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Doesn't 4 strike you as odd in the same state... in the non-terrorist sort of way, like someone exploiting a 'sale'. It could be terrorist related but that seems too stupid, terrorists usually make some attempt to stay low key.... buying 60 phones at a time from 4 different walmarts in the state doesn't strike me as a good plan to stay under the wire. That said we're not always dealing with people playing with a full deck.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:26 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM
I'm thinking this is a threadwinner. For the DAY!
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 08:27 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (wp7uW)
ISS is only 100m across, not wide enough to use centrifugal force for artificial gravity.
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Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:22 PM (T78UI)<<<
But, but Mars
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 08:28 PM (wp7uW)
It's as flat as Earth. Just sayin....
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:25 PM
Eh, nice place to visit but...
Posted by: Malachi Constant at December 10, 2015 08:28 PM (1pRZc)
Posted by: guy wearing tinfoil headgear at December 10, 2015 08:28 PM (H9MG5)
using a spent Atlas rocket as a hull. I remember building a plastic
model of it when I was a kid.
The author of the article, Anatoly Zak, is an expert on Russian space history and his website (linked at the end) is excellent.
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 08:19 PM (sdi6R)
I remember some old sci-fi story where they quiety kept all the fuel tans from the shuttle missions and clustered them up in orbit rather than dropping back to earth... don't remember anything else about it though.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:28 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:28 PM (Xo1Rt)
Recall this is the same crowd that featured a guy trying to get back his deposit after using a rental truck to set a bomb off at the World Trade Center.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:29 PM (ppaKI)
Trump is like crack to CNN and MSNBC.
It's 24/7 Trump and giant pupils.
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:16 PM (qUNWi)
It's all distraction. While it's TRUMP! 24/7 most people aren't paying attention to Madame Canquelles or the fact that the government is stealing everything that isn't nailed down (and then getting loans on all that shit in your name and stealing that too).
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 08:29 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:30 PM (MbrzC)
"I don't really have much to say today, except the world is doomed and will not be lamented."
Portents indicates alot of blood as many peoples beliefs are about to clash with reality.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 10, 2015 08:30 PM (CzRJp)
This kicks in only when you're moving with respect to the rotating frame, but it is awful when are trying to move. When you run the numbers, you need a pretty large radius.
And you're thinking only of regular turds in space. Imagine explosive diarrhea in space. That I would not want to live through. I think I'd just open the airlock and take the coward's way out before I'd have diarrhea in zero g.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:31 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at December 10, 2015 08:31 PM (axIhh)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at December 10, 2015 08:32 PM (IKE1C)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:20 PM
Put your hands on your hips.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 08:32 PM (pLwjI)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 08:29 PM (4ErVI)
that is a pretty good point.
Posted by: Shoey at December 10, 2015 08:33 PM (vA94g)
http://tinyurl.com/ngxgpj2
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:13 PM (ppaKI)
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Doesn't 4 strike you as odd in the same state... in the non-terrorist sort of way, like someone exploiting a 'sale'. It could be terrorist related but that seems too stupid, terrorists usually make some attempt to stay low key.... buying 60 phones at a time from 4 different walmarts in the state doesn't strike me as a good plan to stay under the wire. That said we're not always dealing with people playing with a full deck.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:26 PM (MbrzC)
Or it could just be a way to drive fear into the hearts of the kaffirs. Remember the Flying Imams?
Or, like Clock Boy, it could be a way to level accusations of "Islamophobia" against people who express concern. "What? Muslims aren't allowed to buy cellphones? Are there legal limits on how many cellphones you can buy? Hater!"
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 08:34 PM (sdi6R)
That's cool. I'll leave it open for an extra sec and suck all that shit out with you.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 10, 2015 08:34 PM (ppaKI)
Put your left foot in and shake it all about.
Do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about.
Willis.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:34 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 08:34 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: The media at December 10, 2015 08:35 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:35 PM (MbrzC)
________
CNN goofed. They aired what Donald Trump actually said, allowing me to make my own judgment.
Quoting (from memory, so the exact words might not be precisely what he said, and surprise! I can't find it on YouTube):
"We shouldn't allow any Muslims to come into this country until the people in Congress figure out what the hell is going on."
Trump's call to action isn't for banning Muslims; it's for Congress to come to grips with reality, from which they're all so detached. And of course, Cruz and Rubio take umbrage. They're two of the people Trump has called out.
So I agree with Trump and what I perceive to be his actual proposal -- for our government to get its collective head out of its metaphorical ass.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 10, 2015 08:36 PM (Ob6Wk)
Posted by: 57% of NBC news room at December 10, 2015 08:37 PM (0O2Lr)
Of course, the libtards thought process is:
Christian who opposes gay marriage: Terrorist
Muslim who throw gays off of buildings: Fellow Traveler
Posted by: lymond at December 10, 2015 08:37 PM (koywJ)
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Or even just a distraction for the local fbi offices for a couple days\ week tracking it down.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:37 PM (MbrzC)
There's got to be some protocol for that. Imagine motoring around and running smack into some blob of loose semen floating around. Right in the face. Hmm, some might like that...
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:38 PM (dvuhZ)
McKinnon said, "the names started with U.S.S."
So what? Could stand for Uranus Space Service.
The real bosses are probably short and green.
Posted by: could be at December 10, 2015 08:38 PM (PGh+Q)
We're now entering the Really Stupid Shit Nebula.
A warp caused by too many lefty brains thinking opposite but equal thoughts while arguing right wingers who (some say) are still in the last century.
We don't even speak the same language anymore.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:38 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:39 PM (1pRZc)
actual proposal -- for our government to get its collective head out of
its metaphorical ass.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 10, 2015 08:36 PM (Ob6Wk)
But it is unconstitutional to punish muslims by not letting them come into the country just because of a bunch of asshats in government.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:40 PM (T78UI)
says only "Do you support Trump's proposal to bar Muslims from entering
the country." asked 1000 adults
Most that only have heard the
outrage are gong to say no, some even if they agree since they don't
want to sound racist/bigoted. And as vicious as people are getting,
maybe it's not a pollster but a shooter looking for targets.
But
they left out "temporarily, till we figure out how to vet them, since
ISIS has promised to infiltrate the refugees", which is a pretty big
part. And Trump has already said there would be exceptions.
The
other poll that said 66% of Rs agree makes more sense, and many
prominent people have come out in favor of the general concept, with
more ideological and/or geographic terminology.
It is really the
use of "all Muslims" that got the nuts screaming "bigot". But it forced
open the discussion of the problem: "How do we divine which are the
good ones, and which will stay good?" along with "Do we want to take the
same route as Paris and London, with their openness and no go zones?"
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 08:42 PM (26Yu7)
the good ol' every useful sock comes to mind. (so to speak)
No muss, no fuss and all fluids fully contained in a self sealing easily cleaned module. Plus it doubles as foot wear.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:42 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 08:42 PM (VrdxH)
motoring around and running smack into some blob of loose semen floating
around. Right in the face. Hmm, some might like that...
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:38 PM (dvuhZ)
They have acollapsible 'jack shack' they get into.
Think of it as the barrel people want to get all the way inside of.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:43 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 10, 2015 08:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 08:29 PM (4ErVI)
You mean the giant flashy banging noisy thing everyone is looking at is a *distraction*?
*GASP*
Your metaphor is also apt if you look at interest rates, savings, debt, etc. In an attempt to make shit *look* like it's in order for the last few years of TheOneidency, they're basically *literally* mortgaging our future.
Except it's like a seventh mortgage or something.
I especially like the part where we have the lowest labor participation rate ever recorded and OH we also have low unemployment.
Maybe those stories about secret disappearances are true! Or, maybe the bureaucrats are lying, to take a more plausible example.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2015 08:43 PM (bLnSU)
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sarah-palin-just-made-a-major-trump-announcement/
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:45 PM (MbrzC)
Trump dissenters: "This poll is valid because it agrees with our position."
Trump supporters: "That other poll supporters our position, so it's valid."
Trump dissenters: "Now that poll is invalid."
95% of the country: "Do you realize how silly all that looks?"
Trump supporters and dissenters: "SHUT UP!"
Posted by: tops116 at December 10, 2015 08:46 PM (Wn+fE)
Why would we want to do that? So Merkel can't smirk self righteously at us? (while her country changes before her eyes)
Or Cameron to snark at us about how bigoted we are while Britain has been invaded for the first time in it's history (and my be the last)
Let kissy face loving eyes Trudeau and his merry band of Canadians take them all just to show us how racist we are.
Doesn't. Bother. Me. A. Bit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:46 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 08:46 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:47 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:39 PM
It's the pelvic thru-u-sts..that really drive you insaaaaane.....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 08:47 PM (pLwjI)
*screamy waving arms*
*camera zooms in and out quickly*
Trump turns to look over his shoulder while walking...in soooooooperrrrrrr sssssssssllllllllowwwwww mmmmmotionnnnnnnnnn...........
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:47 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 10, 2015 08:48 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 08:50 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:50 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 08:50 PM (jR7Wy)
says only "Do you support Trump's proposal to bar Muslims from entering
the country." asked 1000 adults
Actually, read a little further down. 1000 "adults" were asked the Islam favorability question. Only 495 "adults" were asked the Trump policy question.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 10, 2015 08:51 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:51 PM (qUNWi)
The real bosses are probably short and green.
Posted by: could be
Kermit and Yoda.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 08:52 PM (FkBIv)
"Why do Trump voters share this delusion that Donald Trump will beat Hillary?"
Morning Consult poll, 12/3-12/7:
25) 2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Asked of 2,047 registered voters
Hillary Clinton (D) 40%
Donald Trump (R) 45%
Undecided 15%
And Trump hasn't even begun to concentrate on Hillary.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 08:52 PM (VrdxH)
O M G....I hadn't even thunk it.
That's going to be worth the price of admission people.
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:54 PM (qUNWi)
Donald Trump recently said the Vienna is the capital of Austria, a "fact" which Adolf Hitler also held to be true. Donald Trump also holds a pen with his hand (instead of his toes or mouth) when he writes. Do you support the candidacy of Donald Trump, a person who has so much in common with Adolf Hitler?
Posted by: FireHorse at December 10, 2015 08:55 PM (Ob6Wk)
So, I doubt free floating fucking would be too good of an idea. You'd need some tethers, or maybe free floating in a small, padded fuck shack. You can immediately reach out and stabilize yourself, and not build enough speed to crash into anything too hard.
But it would be fun to develop the protocols for it. I guarantee the first commercial venture of civilian space flight would be the porn companies filming zero-g sex. Get their best performers and let 'em develop those techniques.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:55 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:20 PM
Put your hands on your hips.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 08:32 PM
Good tunes, but the Meat Loaf that night was awful!
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 08:56 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 08:47 PM
Come on now, EVERYBODY...
Let's do the Time Warp again!
Let's do the Time Warp again!
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:56 PM (1pRZc)
Posted by: jow at December 10, 2015 08:57 PM (1pRZc)
Posted by: eleven at December 10, 2015 08:57 PM (qUNWi)
I guarantee the first commercial venture of civilian space flight would
be the porn companies filming zero-g sex. Get their best performers and
let 'em develop those techniques.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:55 PM (dvuhZ)
Not porn - SCIENCE!
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 08:57 PM (T78UI)
To repeat myself from earlier:
"Mrs Clinton doesn't belong in this Presidential debate. She belongs in a prison cell."
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 08:57 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Karl Rove - 2012 at December 10, 2015 08:57 PM (hudka)
Which poll is this? Do you have a link?
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http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/morning-consult-23281
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 08:59 PM (VrdxH)
http://tinyurl.com/q5qyzbe
Buck Sexton was pushing that we should choose immigrants based on whether they are good for Americans. We have no obligation to open doors to every third world zealot that would like to take part of our heritage. It is not "punishment" to some foreigner to not give them what our families fought for. They need to fight in their own country, and change their own culture, not bring their mess here.
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 08:59 PM (26Yu7)
Brett) and it's rather shocking how much smoking and brandishing of
firearms there is. Can't see that happening now -- particularly the
smoking, even though Holmes was a bit of a tobacco fiend in the stories.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 08:50 PM
Jeremy Brett! FTW!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 09:00 PM (pLwjI)
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 08:56 PM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2015 09:01 PM (pLwjI)
If you asked people if they supported a suspension to all immigration until we examine our processing
And not name any candidate there would be huge support
Posted by: ThunderB at December 10, 2015 09:01 PM (fhB1L)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 08:55 PM (dvuhZ)
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So, A Boy and his Dog is correct? You'd be strapped down and hooked to a milking machine in order for the human race to survive?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 10, 2015 09:05 PM (iQIUe)
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sarah-palin-just-made-a-major-trump-announcement/
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 08:45 PM (MbrzC)
BRB. Bunk.
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 09:05 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:06 PM (dvuhZ)
Did anyone tell Ace that the "Stupid Dum-Dum Children" article is in the sidebar twice?
Posted by: mindful webworker - redundundantdantly at December 10, 2015 09:07 PM (ACs58)
What possible benefit could they be to us here?
We have plenty of people who are barely qualified for physical labor. Some of those can't be hired because of psychological problems.
Still there are plenty of strong backs available without outsourcing foreign language speakers.
It makes no sense what's going on.
It's like monkeys are pushing buttons somewhere and our so called leaders are dancing to a tune even they can understand.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 09:07 PM (Xo1Rt)
The "Luna Marine" books dealt with zero-G sex. The sex itself might be
fun; dodging the floating knots of jizz afterward, maybe less so
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
Just call me Pac Man!
Posted by: Barney Frank at December 10, 2015 09:08 PM (4ErVI)
Seems fitting.
Posted by: fluffy at December 10, 2015 09:08 PM (AfsKp)
Hope and change baby....hope and change.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2015 09:08 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:06 PM (dvuhZ)
Don't you know how to get a government grant - it is science.Just got to work some global warming in there.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2015 09:09 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2015 09:09 PM (Xodlv)
This is likely to be the main showstopper for human spacefaring and colonization of other planets, moons.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:09 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: mindful webworker
The AoSHQ bylaws require at least one double post per day.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 09:10 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM
I'm thinking this is a threadwinner. For the DAY!
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 08:27 PM (o/90i)
Well, I'm glad I checked back in - I have never been so honored by such a nomination!
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:11 PM (/q6+P)
Just so the their wouldn't be a Lynch Building on campus.
Don't they have tests or something? How about learning and practicing a practical skill?
I know, I know. Silly me. Expecting a institution of learning actually causing them to LEARN something. Something useful.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 09:11 PM (Xo1Rt)
The Donald Trump Immigration Controversy! | Bill Whittle and Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLnehTFanM
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:12 PM (VrdxH)
We very multi-culitural and animal friendly kind of guys....THAT is just one of many reasons that dumb as shit donors give us money to do our good work.
Posted by: The GOPe/Muslim Coalition at December 10, 2015 09:13 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: rebel flounder at December 10, 2015 09:13 PM (3dOE/)
The cum shot round the world?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 09:13 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 10, 2015 09:14 PM (793BB)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
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Bucky Ballz.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 09:15 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 09:16 PM (o98Jz)
The world is descending into stupidity--but it would be racist for the world to collapse into a new dark ages.
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
Not with a bang but a whimper
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 10, 2015 09:16 PM (hJrjt)
Posted by: publius
There was a great NatGeo article in the late '90's that described the effects of weightlessness on the human body. It was quite detailed. Bone loss, muscle loss - the heart actually starts losing mass - to say nothing of the radiation.
Humans as fleshbags will never travel outside of the solar system.
Robots or cyborgs have the only shot at it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 09:16 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:17 PM (dvuhZ)
Glenn Beck is killing it on Islam Megyn's show
Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 09:18 PM (yp4bV)
Here's an assignment, if I may be so bold to suggest. It doesn't seem like ANYBODY has properly taken the Leftists and quasi-Leftists (establishment GOP) to task for having the nerve to compare Trump's overplayed ban to the Jews.
First, there's the fact that those bastards are as anti-Semitic as they come, have pretty much doomed half the Jewish population to annihilation via nuclear holocaust. Second, there's the fact that 99% of the people Trump is supposedly being so bigoted against would tell you to your face that all Jews should be killed.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:19 PM (/q6+P)
Anyway, to Burnt Toast, I'm sorry, got to stop calling it "porn" and say science. Science. Science, science, science, dammit. You suppose we could get a YUGE grant to hire some of the top, porn--uh science stars, and do all sorts of "experiments" with them? I'm not all that good at bullshitting, though, to write up the proposal. I'd need some help there.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:21 PM (dvuhZ)
Glenn Beck is killing it on Islam Megyn's show
Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 09:18 PM (yp4bV)
Glen looks like Stuart Smalley.....he sounds like he has a better vetting process than the Feds though.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2015 09:21 PM (ej1L0)
I'm watching an old Sherlock Holmes episode (Jeremy Brett) and it's rather shocking how much smoking and brandishing of firearms there is. Can't see that happening now -- particularly the smoking, even though Holmes was a bit of a tobacco fiend in the stories.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 08:50 PM
Back in '98, Warner Brothers did limited theater showings of a bunch of their old films for their 75th anniversary. Very cool to see the old flicks in the theater.
Anyway, one of them was The Exorcist. In the early scene where Ellen Burstyn is talking to the shrink in his office, the shrink pauses the dialog to pull a cig and light up. The theater full of modern folks started laughing their asses off. You'd have thought they were watching a Marx Bros film.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 09:22 PM (o98Jz)
This is likely to be the main showstopper for human spacefaring and colonization of other planets, moons.
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^^This.^^
#1 NASA is retarded for refusing to investigate simulated gravity via rotating structures. They say it has problems, but won't try to overcome them. Instead they keep repeating the same experiments with astronauts in zero-gee we've been doing for 50 years. We already know the results. They're bad. Try something else.
#2 Even if we had warp drive, the range of planets we could live on comfortably is limited, probably to 0.8 - 1.2 the diameter of the earth. Too small, and you get low gravity effects like bone loss, muscle deterioration, swelling head. (We don't actually know if we could live on either the moon or Mars without exercising 2 hours/day to stay healthy. NASA has never done the experiments, though it could have.) Too large, and the gravity becomes oppressive. Our muscles, bones and joints aren't built for the stress, and we'd see the same problems as women in the military - stress fractures, etc.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:24 PM (VrdxH)
Interesting point. As you and weft point out the human body has evolved, and its functions, in a gravity environment. Kinda used to it.
Take that away and the human body starts to respond in some not so common ways.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 10, 2015 09:25 PM (hnG++)
Posted by: Snowflake Sulu at December 10, 2015 09:25 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
It's only recently that I've watched Planet of the Apes from beginning to end.
The first sequence is the astronauts in the ship. Ol' Chuck is sitting at the controls and he lights up a ciggie. I bust out laughing every time now.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 09:25 PM (9YDUz)
He needs to peel off his competitors. The most vulnerable is probably Carson, who has no business being in the race in the first place. These are the people who are pissed off at the establishment GOP, for good reason, but don't feel Trump is religious enough. Maybe Trump thinks he can peel off the anti-Muslim sentiment that Carson has in his pocket.
With Carson out of the way, Trump goes to about 50%, and can chill out a bit on this kind of stuff. With the rest of the field in his dust, he's on his way to the WH.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:26 PM (/q6+P)
Such as Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 09:26 PM (FkBIv)
the range of planets we could live on comfortably is limited, probably to 0.8 - 1.2 the diameter of the earth.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:24 PM (VrdxH)
I would think that evolution would come into play. After many generations, humans living on low gravity vs. high gravity planets would tend to diverge.
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: President Bitchy Girl at December 10, 2015 09:27 PM (EDYaR)
We should build artificial habitats.
Using them the Solar System can easily support trillions of people.
Thinking about colonizing other worlds orbiting other stars is a sign we are a very young species.
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2015 09:28 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Snowflake Sulu at December 10, 2015 09:29 PM (Dwehj)
But it turns it out is that immune system malfunction.
And 1/3 g, like on Mars, and certainly 1/6g on the Moon will not be enough. For long term stays on either, we're going to need artificial g there as well. And lots of radiation shielding. Habitats buried under meters of local soil.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:29 PM (dvuhZ)
Such as Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 09:26 PM (FkBIv)
Yecchh! That rendezvous leaves quite a lot to be desired.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at December 10, 2015 09:29 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 07:38 PM
I'm thinking this is a threadwinner. For the DAY!
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 08:27 PM (o/90i)
Well, I'm glad I checked back in - I have never been so honored by such a nomination!
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:11 PM
I don't know that such a nomination has ever been made. Maybe.
But I thought that post was so on target it deserved it. Now if our elected "betters" could see it as clear as we do it'd be great.
Posted by: Farmer at December 10, 2015 09:29 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 09:30 PM (26Yu7)
Posted by: All Hail Eris
I thought he liked the opium, too
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 09:31 PM (fBkaR)
Could they survive and reproduce fast enough, and could evolution work fast enough, for that to happen?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 10, 2015 09:31 PM (B5Mek)
WSJ has been amnesty/immigration central for a very long time. They can't be trusted on this issue - unless they agree with us.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:32 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Snowflake Sulu at December 10, 2015 09:32 PM (Dwehj)
Mollie, you seem like a nice gal. But, you must have a lot of self hate as well
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 10, 2015 09:32 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: StrawMan at December 10, 2015 09:32 PM (c2krM)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Aviator at December 10, 2015 09:33 PM (c7vUv)
When you get to thinking about it a spacefaring species really does have to be of the Type II level. And we are still cavemen compared to that. And I don't know if we want humans to have that Type II power.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:34 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:26 PM (/q6+P)
Or maybe he's just pointing out the obvious ( or both).
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thinktank/ Court-rulings-support-Trumps-Muslim-immigration-plan-.html
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BTW the Bill Whittle link is good.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 09:35 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 10, 2015 09:31 PM (B5Mek)
Imagine how perky dem tittays would be in low gravity. Even giant wabbly ol sacks of gravy. Methinks a whole lot of breeding would be happening, no? the larger the pool, the uh something something something yeah.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at December 10, 2015 09:35 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 09:36 PM (fBkaR)
Glenn Beck is killing it on Islam Megyn's show"
Maybe he was when you typed that, but you got me paying attention and he sounded like a conspiracy nut to me. Don't get me wrong - I watched Beck for a long time when he was on cable and feel I learned a lot. But he can also be really unhinged too.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:36 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: the morigu at December 10, 2015 09:36 PM (GPXSX)
immune system doesn't function properly in zero-g. All that complicated
mess of signalling and immune cells doing this and that gets fucked up."
I didn't see this one coming: vision issues.
Not due to cosmic radiation, apparently. Microgravity does not agree with the human eye. Deleterious structural changes occur during long-duration orbital stays.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 10, 2015 09:36 PM (noWW6)
- Pusillanimous Punctilious Pedant -
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 09:36 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 10, 2015 09:37 PM (voOPb)
We'll come up with a bunch of bullshit academese papers and put their names on it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:37 PM (dvuhZ)
And, for the nth time, here's "Goodnight Dune" to send you off to spice-infused dreamland. Don't let the Sand Men get you!
http://goodnightdune.com/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 09:37 PM (jR7Wy)
Bet the pilot types hate that shit.
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 09:38 PM (fBkaR)
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 09:39 PM (fBkaR)
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
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But everyone would be very uncomfortable until evolution created adaptations.
I remember a fragment of a SciFi story from decades ago. The spaceship had to accelerate at 2g for weeks to reach the point where they made their hyperspace jump. Guys had to wear special jock straps all the time to keep the strings holding their balls from breaking.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:40 PM (VrdxH)
Honest to G-d, my parents (well, dad) got me a classic SF colouring book when I was seven - and Dune was in it.
Also Fantastic Voyage, When Worlds Collide, War Of The Worlds. Some others I can't remember as well - 2001 and I Robot, probably.
The ol' man knew his canon.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:41 PM (6FqZa)
Oooh! Bill Whittle!! Time to smack myself upside the head the head for not going over THERE for a while!
I still like my theory. I "get" that most of what Trump has proposed (in an unserious way, BTW) is not only legal but NORMAL, and actually the OBLIGATION of the govt. But he left out qualifiers, as usual, such as "in certain countries" or "except US citizens travelling abroad" - that sort of thing. Why did he leave THAT MUCH out, while trying to appeal to a country that values Separation of Church and State (well, OK, conservatives are in outright DENIAL of that - but that brings us back to my theory)?
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:41 PM (/q6+P)
We'll come up with a bunch of bullshit academese papers and put their names on it.
So the Fox News approach
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (fBkaR)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (6FqZa)
You might have had until the "giant wabbly sacks of gravy" part.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (mZF3d)
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (sdi6R)
Once upon a time, the story goes, there was some official who found documents marked "top secret" in the office garbage can and tried to start prosecution against the office staff for mishandling classified information.
This was brought to a quick stop by someone who had the position to say, these document handling rules do not extend to information from the United Planetary Federation, and these are character sheets for Star Frontiers
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (q2o38)
while Britain has been invaded for the first time in it's history (and
my be the last)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 08:46 PM (Xo1Rt)
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The Romans and Normans beg to disagree about that invasion thingy.
Posted by: jbarntt at December 10, 2015 09:43 PM (hM/US)
I have never seen that. Awesome.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 09:43 PM (0NdlF)
Quite shockingly he references the issue of gay marriage. Looks like after a long while it has finally appeared on his radar screen.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 10, 2015 09:43 PM (jEIZo)
already saying that they want to buy a flight on a commercial rocket for
the express purpose of making a movie in space.
Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2015 09:42 PM (sdi6R)
I thought that was done for really short shorts on the "vomit comet" simulator.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2015 09:43 PM (q2o38)
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I'm picturing Li'l Terlit Hobo coloring in a triffid while he snarfs down his Horlicks.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at December 10, 2015 09:45 PM (jR7Wy)
Populism boils down to soundbites in the end.
Lowest common denominator.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 09:46 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Paul George at December 10, 2015 09:46 PM (FkBIv)
1) Other scientists at the time DIDN'T say "That's impossible". instead they said, "We didn't think it could be done so easily." (Huh!?!)
2) A paper by the scientist involved was suddenly withdrawn, and I have heard ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of it - or him - since.
That sounds like a pretty clear indication to me that the govt got it's hands on something surreal. Not kidding.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:46 PM (/q6+P)
Not to mention the Vikings. Rape, pillage, library-burnings and rape.
Some Welshmen and Cornishmen might wish to discuss the Saxons and Jutes whilst we're at it . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:46 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 09:47 PM (erRNA)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 10, 2015 09:47 PM (/q6+P)
Not due to cosmic radiation, apparently. Microgravity does not agree with the human eye. Deleterious structural changes occur during long-duration orbital stays.
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Oh yes. I was horrified when I heard this one. The brain swells in zero-g, and pushes on the back of the eyeballs, causing the retina to bulge inward into the interior, making any kind of focus impossible. Vision becomes permanently fubared. It does not repair itself when they come back down. And this is only after a six month stay. It only happens to a few, but I wouldn't want to be the one.
Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 09:48 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 10, 2015 09:48 PM (xq1UY)
Of course, we'd have a problem. In zero-g, all the fluid in the legs, kept there by gravity, and this something normal our systems are used to, pools in the trunk. The legs get spindly looking and the trunk gets bloated. All this extra fluid is presented to the kidneys and you start having to pee a lot until a new equilibrium is reached.
So that might not look too good. Our hotties would turn into little butterballs.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 10, 2015 09:48 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 09:48 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Paul George
Look, darling, Johnny Ringo. The deadliest pistoleer since Wild Bill, they say. What do you think, darling? Should I hate him?
Posted by: Doc Holliday at December 10, 2015 09:48 PM (9YDUz)
Not to mention the Vikings. Rape, pillage, library-burnings and rape.
Some Welshmen and Cornishmen might wish to discuss the Saxons and Jutes whilst we're at it . . .
The Muslims hate the Jutes.
Posted by: StrawMan at December 10, 2015 09:49 PM (c2krM)
What I was thinking was the first land based invasion.
The others were water based.
They should never have built the Chunnel.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 10, 2015 09:53 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2015 09:58 PM (4RlNs)
BOLO -- Missing Afghan Refugee Peaceful Religionist Trainees Still On Loose.
Pics, which should be memorized.
Posted by: taqiyyologist at December 10, 2015 09:58 PM (NCh45)
I did not see that coming.
Posted by: mindful webworker - shocked. Shocked! at December 10, 2015 09:59 PM (ACs58)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 10, 2015 10:06 PM (6FqZa)
My guess is that most actually *do* agree with him, but won't tell pollsters that.
Posted by: Mr. Estrada at December 10, 2015 10:08 PM (RPsRI)
Posted by: bruce at December 10, 2015 10:55 PM (M+/pj)
Yeah, they want plausible deniability, even his critics, because they're so steeped in liberal bunk about "it's fascist!", except when Christians do anything then it isn't fascist (remember the rule, son!).
Posted by: bruce at December 10, 2015 10:58 PM (M+/pj)
Posted by: bruce at December 10, 2015 11:00 PM (M+/pj)
An NX-class, a Constitution-class, an Excelsior-class, an Ambassador-class, a Galaxy-class, and a Sovereign-class, sure.
But no Enterprise-class.
Posted by: Demosthenes at December 11, 2015 01:43 AM (9V0rz)
Posted by: Righter at December 11, 2015 07:57 AM (Y6XuZ)
We're not building Enterprise-class space battleships.
That's because they're Imperial Star Destroyers. When the I establish the Sith Empire of America, Putin, China, and Iran will get their nutsacks cut off and shoved down their throats...
Posted by: I R A Aggie at December 11, 2015 10:00 AM (1hM1d)
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