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Morning Thread (10-16-2015)
Helloooo weekend. I see you hiding behind today.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 06:36 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 06:36 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Molly k. at October 16, 2015 06:37 AM (zS+qK)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 06:37 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Molly k. at October 16, 2015 06:38 AM (zS+qK)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 06:39 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: wing at October 16, 2015 06:40 AM (gd8Or)
Oldie but goodie from Iowahawk about Norman Borlaug--a Nobel Peace Prize winner who didn't kill anyone--who is hated by greenies because his work fed millions of people:
http://t.co/fWgYWnsKPi
Can also learn more at http://www.worldfoodprize.org.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 16, 2015 06:42 AM (vn2q2)
In stuff CAC used to post:
Space art superstar Don Davis' drawing of 4 senarios for the "Dyson Sphere" star getting all the attention:
https://t.co/Hgj0QANK5B
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 06:45 AM (kdS6q)
DAY 1,077
386 to go (459 to Inauguration Day 2017)
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 06:47 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 06:48 AM (St6BJ)
Free speech and a difference of opinion will no longer be tolerated in this country. How did we get here and how do we fix this so it never happens again?
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 06:49 AM (sI4OA)
In more stuff CAC used to post:
The Cassini Saturn probe is winding down it's mission with some close flybys of the moon Enceladus -- and some weird stuff up there:
http://tinyurl.com/pg4647b
Click to the Full Res.
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 06:50 AM (kdS6q)
In the olden times, proto-James Bond adventures like Dan Dunn Secret
Operative #48 (and some of the movies starred R.Reagan) always ended
with the skulking conspirators being led away (off the airship!) in
cuffs. Roll credits. You didn't have to wonder what happened next.
Endless
appeals, Free____movements, and, well, Gitmo As We Know It have put the
lie to the old ideas, that when you turn over the rock the things
underneath will scuttle away like Catiline's senators there on the Group
W bench. The people you're dealing with now aren't "honorable" like
Nazi saboteurs or even Muscovite moles. It's more like the Black Knight,
who has to keep cutting one more limb off his assailant. And, it's
working.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 06:52 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 06:53 AM (TxJGV)
Ken Taylor , the Canadian ambassador who helped six American diplomats escape after the US embassy in Tehran was stormed by Iranian revolutionaries in 1979 has died, his family has said. Taylor was 81 and died in hospital in New York.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34544456
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 06:54 AM (kdS6q)
And in breaking news:
Turkey says its warplanes have shot down an unidentified aircraft which intruded into airspace near Syrian border
BBC
"We'll meet again...."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 06:55 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 06:56 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 06:56 AM (kLrYQ)
I decided to run one race every month this year, but I'm rethinking it. I hate running in the cold.
Posted by: no good deed at October 16, 2015 06:57 AM (GgxVX)
https://twitter.com/KALAccountants/status/654972580718317568
Feels like the requirements authors didn't anticipate anyone would call out to them...or maybe they did, but the bean counters didn't want to fund that feature.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 16, 2015 06:57 AM (vn2q2)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 06:58 AM (sI4OA)
How did this doctor drown in Hawaii? Makes no sense. I assume she could swim.
You look at her accomplishments and she flit from one place to another never sticking around longer than to volunteer a few weeks of her time -- which is nice but really not impressive.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 06:59 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 07:00 AM (1iFv+)
I didn't find that poll, only one which shows in OH and PA Carson beating her 49% to 40%.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 07:01 AM (sI4OA)
how do we fix this so it never happens again?
Shoot a whole bunch of people and hang the rest.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 07:02 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 16, 2015 07:04 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 07:05 AM (TxJGV)
Posted by: gunslingeraz at October 16, 2015 07:06 AM (Ij1fE)
The country will continue to tear apart at the seams whether you collect links or not...
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 07:07 AM (sI4OA)
If only that were true!
As long as Choom Boy, Shrillery, Muslims and BLM activists thrive, there will be plenty o' bad news out there, Vic.
But a good night's sleep is a thing of beauty, and should be cherished and encouraged!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 07:08 AM (eUxuB)
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Here you go; it was in the sidebar.
http://bit.ly/1Rexxz8
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 07:09 AM (TxJGV)
The whole world is mad.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 07:10 AM (Dk/hK)
how do we fix this so it never happens again?
Shoot a whole bunch of people and hang the rest.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 07:02 AM (rCGpC)
I like the cut of your jib
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 16, 2015 07:10 AM (7RXcs)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 07:02 AM (rCGpC)
Can we boil some in oil?
Polyunsaturated of course.
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 07:13 AM (8ikIW)
Sanders is pulling in the bucks.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 07:13 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 07:13 AM (TxJGV)
New Constitutional Amendment: anyone receiving more from the government than they pay in taxes is prohibited from voting. This especially means anyone employed by the government.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 16, 2015 07:14 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 07:10 AM
I had to make a quick search to see what a "Benedict Cumberbatch" might be (shows you how far out of the Pop Culture loop I am).
Was very impressed by his solid foreign policy credentials and long record of philanthropy and hard labor on behalf of the world's Downtrodden Peoples. Hell, he's rivaling Choom Boy!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 07:16 AM (eUxuB)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 07:05 AM (TxJGV)
Nobody bothers to read Jane's?
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 16, 2015 07:17 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:18 AM (mvenn)
And incestuous celebrity pedophile Lena Dunham.is going topless for Harper's Bazaar's November issue.
http://tinyurl.com/q8qyebj
This is punishment for your sins in a past life.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 07:18 AM (kdS6q)
Remember how long they fixated on Christie's bridge.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 07:18 AM (oVJmc)
Fixed for Truth.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 07:19 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:20 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 16, 2015 07:20 AM (t2KH5)
So, I'm guessing she wants to vote socialist, either way.
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 07:22 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 16, 2015 07:17 AM (k9qR4)
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Exactly.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 07:22 AM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Puddleglum, grumbling Penguins fan at October 16, 2015 07:23 AM (MUfr9)
Posted by: CanaDave at October 16, 2015 07:24 AM (LDIMf)
In smart milblog news, the Navy is officially moving toward gender neutral unisex uniforms:
http://tinyurl.com/qao3xvb
Because -- well -- Navy.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 07:25 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Chi at October 16, 2015 07:25 AM (xnkrD)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at October 16, 2015 07:26 AM (C9pBZ)
The Prius of the Sea!
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Burkes-Electrified-10-15-2015.asp
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 07:26 AM (kLrYQ)
Here's a police-shoots-and-kills-unarmed-teen story that you probably won't see getting much coverage in the U.S. media:
http://tinyurl.com/qyft2u2
Teenager was pulled over because he flashed his lights at oncoming car (the cop's car) that appeared to have its brights on. (Turned out later that several other motorists had also flashed the car earlier, for the same reason). Cop got annoyed and pulled the teen driver over. Teen was not sufficiently deferential to the cop, they get into some kind of altercation, cop empties gun into unarmed kid.
But there will be no outrage in the U.S. media over this killing, no marching in the streets, no burning down of towns -- because the kid shot dead by the cop was white.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 07:26 AM (a31sM)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 16, 2015 07:27 AM (PEFlK)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:27 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Admiral Piett at October 16, 2015 07:29 AM (PEFlK)
The "best & brightest" currently running things don't even know what Jane's is.
Or much of anything else.
& thanks for the iowahawk link, Norm Borlaug is one more representative of what America used to be.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 16, 2015 07:31 AM (go6ud)
Baltimore police can't confirm or debunk the story....Can't the great mayor of Baltimore find a way to debunk Carson's story..
Posted by: Colin at October 16, 2015 07:32 AM (Espnc)
Posted by: Chi at October 16, 2015 07:25 AM (xnkrD)
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Apparently Carson claimsthat years ago a robber stuck a gun in his face while he was at a Popeye's restaurant and Carson told him that he should do that to the counter-jockey instead.
Lefties have their panties in a wad, because what he did then versus what he is saying now (that people should rush a gunman) is different. Nevermind one is a robbery and the other concerns wackjob executing people.
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 16, 2015 07:32 AM (KlVdw)
Posted by: Molly k. at October 16, 2015 06:37 AM (zS+qK)
It's supposed to be cooler today but checked the weathers d apparently that means it will only be in the 70s today. As opposed to the 95 it was yesterday. Ugh.
Posted by: Lea at October 16, 2015 07:32 AM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 07:33 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 07:33 AM (uZNvH)
like a baby all night and did not collect news links. So every thing
must be good today.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 16, 2015 07:04 AM (t2KH5)
Hahahaha. It IS a good day then. Party on, Vicmeister.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:34 AM (JO9+V)
They're all brown shirts in-training. The plan, I believe, is to consolidate them and have them spread joy and merriment throughout the land.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 16, 2015 07:35 AM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 07:35 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 16, 2015 07:36 AM (PEFlK)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:18 AM (mvenn)
With skin like iron and breath as hard as kersosene.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:36 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 07:38 AM (oVJmc)
Toes in the water, ass in the sand...
Forecast high nearly 90 here in S. Texas
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at October 16, 2015 07:38 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:34 AM (JO9+V)
I intend to. must eat some first and take my morning pills
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 16, 2015 07:39 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 07:40 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 16, 2015 07:40 AM (eav5a)
Posted by: Count de Monet
***
All the federales say, they could've had her any day
They only let her slip away...
...out of kindness, I suppose.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:41 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at October 16, 2015 07:38 AM (C9pBZ)
Calling for a high of 80F here today. I'll get some porch time in.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 16, 2015 07:41 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
No, I said I remember it differently than Ben does. The way I recall the Popeyes tale, it was I who was assaulted. I wrestled the gnu (right?) away from the maniac. In the struggle, our clothes came off. Then, he apologized and I sat back as the gnuman ate out my daughter's b-hole. Harrowing.
Posted by: Brian Williams at October 16, 2015 07:43 AM (PEFlK)
Posted by: Admiral Piett at October 16, 2015 07:29 AM (PEFlK)
No. The Super DUPER Star Destroyer Executorator!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:43 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 16, 2015 07:43 AM (eav5a)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 16, 2015 07:35 AM (7RXcs)
Hey now, don't forget about us. Black shirts matter too!
What are you, rayciss?
Posted by: Zombie Giovanni Gentile at October 16, 2015 07:43 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:45 AM (JO9+V)
New Constitutional Amendment: anyone receiving more from the government than they pay in taxes is prohibited from voting. This especially means anyone employed by the government.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 16, 2015 07:14 AM (k9qR4)
THIS plus infinity.
I just came in my mouth a little.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:46 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Brian Williams at October 16, 2015 07:47 AM (PEFlK)
Yeah, with the help of all the MS-13 and middle east "refugees" that we're importing.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 16, 2015 07:47 AM (go6ud)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:45 AM (JO9+V)
Damned if I know. I feel as if my psyche is at least 10-15 years behind the times.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:47 AM (St6BJ)
The GOPe needs to forget it's-
lame swarming spider monkeys fling poo strategy-
and just have the top six at this point for the two hour debate.
The no chance, poo-flingers can go away or have their own feces-covered debate.
Time for Low-Energy Jeb! to stand on his own or perhaps he can send in his female assistant in his stead, since he's not manly enough to face Trump by himself.
Rubio too.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 07:48 AM (KUa85)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 06:36 AM (Nwg0u)
I can't believe that Barry and the DoJ haven't jumped into that on her side to defend the innocent lamb from the racist justice system
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2015 07:48 AM (DiZBp)
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 07:48 AM (KUa85)
Donde esta Dondi? Fucking sellout.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:49 AM (St6BJ)
Here's a police-shoots-and-kills-unarmed-teen story that you probably won't see getting much coverage in the U.S. media:
http://tinyurl.com/qyft2u2
Teenager was pulled over because he flashed his lights at oncoming car (the cop's car) that appeared to have its brights on. (Turned out later that several other motorists had also flashed the car earlier, for the same reason). Cop got annoyed and pulled the teen driver over. Teen was not sufficiently deferential to the cop, they get into some kind of altercation, cop empties gun into unarmed kid.
But there will be no outrage in the U.S. media over this killing, no marching in the streets, no burning down of towns -- because the kid shot dead by the cop was white.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 07:26 AM (a31sM)
Jesus. This is terrible. What could this kid have possibly said or done to be blown away during a traffic stop?
Posted by: Gem at October 16, 2015 07:49 AM (c+gwp)
Posted by: Scoob at October 16, 2015 07:49 AM (BFk4h)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 16, 2015 07:50 AM (vn2q2)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 07:20 AM (mvenn)
A name like Cumberbatch is just begging to be malapropped. And since he's a dumb-ass lefty, it will be.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:50 AM (St6BJ)
than they pay in taxes is prohibited from voting. This especially means
anyone employed by the government.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at October 16, 2015 07:14 AM (k9qR4)
Addendum Proposal: Any gub'mint employee delinquent on their income taxes, property taxes, registration fees of any sort, licensing fees, continuing education hours, or found to have lied, misrepresented, misstated, misspoke, etc. on their resume or in public utterances about their experience or education or qualifications also to lose their vote until such condition is cured.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 07:52 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Gem
Sorry, officer, it's just an empty donut box.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 16, 2015 07:52 AM (PEFlK)
Posted by: Gem at October 16, 2015 07:49 AM (c+gwp)
I must say, as horrible as this sounds - on the surface - considering the war on cops by SCOMAF and the schvartzes, I will be deferential to the police, first last and always until proven beyond any doubt to the contrary with cold, hard evidence.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:52 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: brer huma at October 16, 2015 07:52 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: Gem
Would you like some gum?
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 07:53 AM (8ikIW)
Time to collect social security and owe the Fed a couple hundred thousand dollars? Forget it. Just like people who work their entire lives and owe the Fed some money.
It's a safety net, not a hammock.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 07:53 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at October 16, 2015 07:54 AM (QHgTq)
A weak end to shelter in place without hope. Summer is over, Man! It's OVER!
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 16, 2015 07:54 AM (RQ1sK)
Posted by: dIb at October 16, 2015 07:54 AM (HYAmq)
And any tax plan MUST include everyone. Skin in the game makes a world of difference.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:55 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole
Tunisian National Dialogue Quartet?
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 07:55 AM (8ikIW)
Gotta be neck and neck between Yasser Arafat and Le Duc Tho, no?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 07:56 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 16, 2015 07:57 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 07:58 AM (rCGpC)
Cuz me likey Hamlet.
But Cumberbatch annoys me now because
He.....uuuses....THE....ssssssssame voice...CAdences...In...every.....THINGgah!!!!!
and he's in everyfuckingthing.
After spending $20 or so bucks and 4 hours of my time-
then have some preening jackass bray at me about about accepting the hordes destroying civilization.
No thank you.
Glad I stayed away.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 07:58 AM (KUa85)
Winston Smith has been very busy the past six years.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:00 AM (sI4OA)
It's time to get our heads around the fact that we have no input on government policy. Those days are over, and they're not coming back. Trying to affect policy now is just wasted energy.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 08:02 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2015 08:02 AM (DiZBp)
Winston Smith has been very busy the past six years.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:00 AM (sI4OA)
Every day a leftist is in power is a grim fucking milestone, and a millstone around our collective neck.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:03 AM (St6BJ)
It's the all pander ticker
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2015 08:02 AM (DiZBp)
If Castro announced he was transgendering would he be a Castro convertible?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:03 AM (St6BJ)
Holy shit, running around six percent is middling now?
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:03 AM (sI4OA)
And sanctuary cities could be sued for damages when it could be demonstrated that they knowingly harbored some non-citizen.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 16, 2015 08:03 AM (ij7E3)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:05 AM (ee9LE)
If Donald Trump had Jeb Bush's numbers, they'd be saying it's over for him.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:05 AM (O7MnT)
If Donald Trump had Jeb Bush's numbers, they'd be saying it's over for him.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:05 AM (O7MnT)
Donald Trump has been in double digits since forever and they've been saying it's over for him every hour on the hour.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:08 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (TxJGV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (ZQfW9)
Just like Bernie isn't actually running for president, he is just here to drag Shrillary leftward.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (uZNvH)
The Fair Tax Plan takes care of that. Everyone pays - citizens, illegals, tourists, criminals - and only legal citizens get the prebate and have proof to get any social services.
All the merchandise brought in from China and other countries are now subject to the sales tax. Our products that are exported are less expensive because there is no tax on them leaving the U.S.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:10 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:10 AM (St6BJ)
.
.
.Yep, and I am getting so tired seeing "one more gaffe and it's over for Trump" articles. Some people don't get it and will literally have a case of the vapors if Trump wins the Primary.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 08:10 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:10 AM (uZNvH)
Ballsack delamination time!!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 08:11 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 08:11 AM (u49WF)
CNN wants a Bush Clinton election and will put any despicable spin they can create to make that happen.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:11 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:05 AM (O7MnT
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It was over for him before it started. What were the Donor Class thinking? This is a "low energy" guy, out of politics for a decade, who starts off insulting conservatives every time MSDNC shoves a microphone in front of his nose. He gone (said in my best Hawk Harrelson voice).
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:12 AM (TxJGV)
It's odd how in America, the worst airlines ... United, Delta, American... are the ones that survived. That has to be a Government thing.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:12 AM (O7MnT)
Sorta like the people who were advocating Carson/Cruz for the same reason....
Never ceases to amaze me how focused the Great Game of Politics people are on trying to sell something that will appeal to everyone, without regard to beliefs, policies and actual suitability for high office.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 08:12 AM (eUxuB)
Regarding the PA polls: yes, I believe it, and mentioned it yesterday.
To reiterate, the Dem's are fighting to see who can be the biggest leftist on gun control. And that doesn't play in PA, despite them thinking it's a blue state.
PA has some of the freest gun laws in the country, probably top 5, so thinking you can demonize guns and get the state is just stupid.
And, IMO, that's why you're seeing these polls trend the way they are.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:12 AM (F26eZ)
124 "Fair Tax" = European Style VAT
no thanks
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:10 AM (uZNvH)
The Fair Tax has nothing to do with a VAT. It doesn't resemble it at all.
I don't know where you come up with this stuff.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:13 AM (Zs4uk)
http://tinyurl.com/pnbklqb
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:13 AM (ee9LE)
It's time to get our heads around the fact that we have no input on government policy. Those days are over, and they're not coming back. Trying to affect policy now is just wasted energy.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 08:02 AM (u5gzz)
You are correct Sir! Proles and animals are free!
Posted by: Zombie Proles at October 16, 2015 08:13 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:14 AM (TxJGV)
Well Donald Trump isn't actually running for president
chemjeff, what do you mean by this?
Do you think that he is going to drop out ?
Posted by: *GOP* at October 16, 2015 08:14 AM (0dcbp)
government policy. Those days are over, and they're not coming back.
Trying to affect policy now is just wasted energy.
I've come to look at it as entertainment. Like thinking about how you'd spend your lotto winnings.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 16, 2015 08:14 AM (vn2q2)
"Noblesse Oblige, don't you know. Jeb's a good nut, my nephew went to Andover with his cousin. And that chap who always buys me drinks at the Newport Yacht Club is related to that family in some way. So, of course, we'll write a check. He's the right kind of people, not like those grubby tea partiers."
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:15 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mortimer at October 16, 2015 08:15 AM (0dcbp)
So US Airways' last flight is today, after 76 years in operation.
I believe they are still using most of their original flight attendants.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:16 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:16 AM (TxJGV)
Also churches. It completely neutralizes the left's demand that churches pay taxes, and makes it impossible for the IRS to selectively punish churches for, say, not performing gay weddings.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:16 AM (O7MnT)
So we have that to look forward to.
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (u49WF)
And she couldn't possibly be more gross and nasty...as a topless hor anyway...
Grody!
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (P0d70)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:08 AM
Looks like someone's been reading Tepid Air....
I have to wonder if Salem Communications is an arm of Shrillery's campaign, just like NBC. Although, in fairness (h/t Poppin' Fresh), the Corpulent "Captain" and his Curious Crew have been moderating the Trump-is-toast barrage lately.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (eUxuB)
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The sad fact is that might be pitch-perfect.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (TxJGV)
Reuters built a computer model to predict which political party will win the presidency in next years election, and the results are in: a Republican will most likely be moving into the White House in 2017.
http://tinyurl.com/q3pr789
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (TxJGV)
Yeah Baby! Throw me those granny panties! Woohoo....Sex Bomb!
Posted by: Soon to Be Zombie Tom Jones at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (ee9LE)
I think Sanders is not a serious candidate, mostly because the DNC has obviously got to him and told him to bend over and allow Hilary to get the nod. He's anti-bank and anti-Wall Street which is the DNC's bread and butter.
But I'm not so sure about Trump. I think his shit-just-got-real meter is registering off the charts.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (u49WF)
The Fair Tax has nothing to do with a VAT. It doesn't resemble it at all.
I don't know where you come up with this stuff.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:13 AM (Zs4uk)
It's a national sales tax. Just like a VAT.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 08:19 AM (JO9+V)
No way could I listen to CNN for any length of time without damaging my telescreen.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:19 AM (sI4OA)
I can't remember the last time I intentionally clicked on that shithouse of a website.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:19 AM (St6BJ)
I was genetically selected to be a couch potato.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:19 AM (cbfNE)
Never ceases to amaze me how focused the Great Game of Politics people are on trying to sell something that will appeal to everyone, without regard to beliefs, policies and actual suitability for high office.
This is why I hate "debates". They aren't.
They are tiny compressed infomercials with winners or losers based on talking heads preferences, camera angles, public perception, and bullsh*t.
If I was a candidate capable of funding such a thing, I would challenge my opponent to a debate in a random high school gym with a designated timekeeper and question reader.
Forget the so-called "moderators".
Posted by: Mortimer at October 16, 2015 08:20 AM (0dcbp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:08 AM
Looks like someone's been reading Tepid Air....
I have to wonder if Salem Communications is an arm of Shrillery's campaign, just like NBC. Although, in fairness (h/t Poppin' Fresh), the Corpulent "Captain" and his Curious Crew have been moderating the Trump-is-toast barrage lately.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 08:17 AM (eUxuB)
Did you catch Hugh Hewit broadcasting from the dumocrat debate? Yep, their all in for shrillary @ Salem radio netfvck...
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 08:20 AM (P0d70)
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Well Donald Trump isn't actually running for president
chemjeff, what do you mean by this?
Do you think that he is going to drop out ?
Posted by: *GOP* at October 16, 2015 08:14 AM (0dcbp)
I think Donald will keep going until (a) Jeb! drops out and (b) everyone else pledges with a blood oath to build a wall. After that there would be no more point to a Donald campaign.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:20 AM (uZNvH)
Donald Trump has spent $678,000 on hats and shirts
According to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Federal Election Commission filings. Thats more than he spent on any item besides air travel, which he purchases from a company he owns himself. No outside vendor came close to billing the campaign the $500,000 that Ace did for his ubiquitous Make America Great Again hats.
When you add t-shirts to the mix, the total money Trump spent on these promotional items comes to $678,000, according to the report.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:20 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (uZNvH)
auto-biography. The ladies still dig his act, even at 100 years old
(approximately).
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (TxJGV)
It's not unusual.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (ee9LE)
United, Delta, American... are the ones that survived. That has to be a
Government thing.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:12 AM
I guess you're a lot younger than I. If you had survived flights on Hughes Air Worst, PSA or some of the other flying nightmares that used to clog the airways, you wouldn't be dissing the Biggies so much.
That said, I would still grab a Lufthansa flight if I were still flying overseas....
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 08:22 AM (eUxuB)
no thanks
.
.Two completely different things.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 08:18 AM (iONHu)
The scary part is that we have people here, among the tiny percentage of the population who are the most politically aware, who don't know what the Fair Tax Plan is.
How in the world can this plan be explained to the masses if we can't even get AoSHQ readers to understand it?
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:22 AM (Zs4uk)
demand that churches pay taxes, and makes it impossible for the IRS to
selectively punish churches for, say, not performing gay weddings.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:16 AM (O7MnT)
Churches' tax exemption mainly comes from being exempt from property tax which the IRS has nothing to do with.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:22 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
Sorry. The "News" people are in charge of what's a gaffe and what's the truth.
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2015 08:22 AM (8ikIW)
Really? I won't miss 'em. They were great as Allegheny way back when, but then they started taking after the DMV.
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2015 08:23 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (uZNvH)
Fair tax is imposed on consumption. You buy something, and it's taxed. That's it. Essentially a sales tax, but VAT taxes every level of production of a product so that the final price is orders of magnitude more than actual cost. Even more than a normal mark-up. Also, with VAT you still pay an income tax to boot.
At least that's to the best of my knowledge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:23 AM (St6BJ)
Wow, that's almost enough to buy M'Chel an evening gown and matching shoes.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:24 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (uZNvH)
I am not an economist, but I think it's the same difference as between Socialism and Communism.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 08:24 AM (JO9+V)
Flat tax is better for reason of simplicity.
In theory, ending all income taxes and replacing it with sales tax would be a good thing but again, the nature of sales taxes make it a trap also, imo.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:24 AM (cbfNE)
We ended up with Wolf because of Corbett hate. It's not because the state's down with Wolf's tax all the things and spend it on education platform.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:24 AM (F26eZ)
http://fxn.ws/1PlVkje
Everything we knew and thought, but the comment about Biden... was interesting. We know the others he was referring to.
Gates on why Obama could never sell the war in Afghanistan
Former defense secretary on how the president was suspicious of the military; Robert Gates provides insight on 'Special Report'
Too early for the hatin'. Plus, it's Friday. Making it a good one.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 08:25 AM (qCMvj)
I think Donald will keep going until (a) Jeb! drops out and (b) everyone else pledges with a blood oath to build a wall. After that there would be no more point to a Donald campaign.
Posted by: chemjeff
Other than Carson, Trump is -- what 20 -- or 30 something points ahead.
Can't think of a candidate that far ahead folding his hand, absent a scandal of some sort or medical emergency.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:25 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 08:25 AM (kLrYQ)
Isn't that the difference?
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:26 AM (TxJGV)
auto-biography. The ladies still dig his act, even at 100 years old
(approximately).
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:09 AM (TxJGV)
It's not unusual.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 08:21 AM (JO9+V)
Saw him at the Islands restaurant in Beverly Hills in 2000 or 2001 eating a burger with his manager. Post lunch hour and the place was mostly empty. Weird. I had the urge to hurl a bra at him, but alas . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:26 AM (St6BJ)
Al Gore. Hey, he's known about AGW since the time primitive man first roasted meat on a spit, yet he's done nothing to curb the genocide.
These Climate Chaos advocates are mass murderers.
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2015 08:27 AM (UzPAd)
And then there are those of us who read the book and can't believe that anyone would be in favor of it. The potential for abuse is just as bad as the current system.
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2015 08:27 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:27 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:25 AM (kdS6q)
G-d forbid, I don't put it past people in power to pull shit on this guy if they can't stop him any other way. What a sad commentary.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:27 AM (St6BJ)
That's it. Essentially a sales tax, but VAT taxes every level of
production of a product so that the final price is orders of magnitude
more than actual cost. Even more than a normal mark-up. Also, with VAT
you still pay an income tax to boot.
so as I understand it
http://www.moneycrashers.com/fair-tax-act-explained-pros-cons/
it would require repealing the 16th amendment, which is not going to happen, and if it didn't happen, we would end up with both a sales tax and an income tax, just like Europe
the national sales tax would exempt business purchases, but that would quickly go away the moment that people found out that they could just "start a business" and use that to avoid the sales taxes. And once the sales tax applies to business purchases, then it becomes a VAT.
the "fair tax" wouldn't start off as a VAT but it would quickly become a VAT.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:28 AM (uZNvH)
McAuliffe the Crime Dog issued an executive order banning open carry in Virginia because we can't wait for another tragedy.
Trial balloon for Barky.
Someone will be arrested for carrying in the VA State House next week, they will fast track the conviction and appeal and get it heard by the lefty Supremes before Barky leaves office.
Barky gets to be the Gun Control Legacy Preezy.
Posted by: Mortimer at October 16, 2015 08:28 AM (0dcbp)
time for a walk in the sun, while I still can
just wanted to drop that
have a good morning y'all.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 08:29 AM (qCMvj)
Any tax plan that disempowers the IRS and thereby starves the beast is OK by me.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:29 AM (St6BJ)
So, are you thinking at that point Trump's star will fade, or are you thinking that he will say "My work here is done," and just quit?
The former is a possibility, but I don't see the latter happening.
I also cannot imagine anyone else pledging to build a wall; it's anathema to the Donor Class.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:30 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Gem at October 16, 2015 07:49 AM (c+gwp)
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It's not clear from the article what really happened. The cop pulled the kid over for flashing his brights. The kid, believing the cop did not have probable cause to stop and detain him, refused to show him his license, registration, etc. The cop kept insisting, and the kid eventually told him he didn't have his license with him. The cop told him he had committed a misdemeanor by refusing to comply with a traffic stop. He told the kid to get out of the car. The kid refused. The cop called for back-up. He again told the kid to get out of the car. He pulled out his taser gun, pointed it at the kid, and told the kid to get out of the car or he'd be tazed.
The kid refused to get out of the car. The cop opened the car door and pulled him out. The cop ordered him to get face down on the ground, with his arms out. The kid got on the ground (while holding his cell phone to film the incident). Then the cop apparently tried to pull the kid's arms behind his back and restrain him. The kid says "officer, what are you doing?" there is some scuffling (the camera has fallen off the cop's uniform at this point, so you really can't see what is happening), then there is a scream before the video ends.
The story says that the officer tazed the kid (which I guess is when he screamed on the video), but that the tazing didn't work, so then the cop shot the kid seven times.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 08:30 AM (a31sM)
Corbett was stupid and paid for his stupidity.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:30 AM (sI4OA)
Fair Tax plans are consumption-based, but they are not a VAT.
Flat Tax plans are income based.
It is morally reprehensible to tax income
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 08:31 AM (ZQfW9)
fade, or are you thinking that he will say "My work here is done," and
just quit?
The former is a possibility, but I don't see the latter happening.
The former
I also cannot imagine anyone else pledging to build a wall; it's anathema to the Donor Class.
Jindal did, on the HQ podcast
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:31 AM (uZNvH)
happen, and if it didn't happen, we would end up with both a sales tax
and an income tax, just like Europe
Bingo!
Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 16, 2015 08:32 AM (i7JE3)
That's it. Essentially a sales tax, but VAT taxes every level of
production of a product so that the final price is orders of magnitude
more than actual cost. Even more than a normal mark-up. Also, with VAT
you still pay an income tax to boot.
At least that's to the best of my knowledge.
.
.
.One other point. The product is taxed at every point before it gets to the consumer and those taxes are passed on to the end user without that user having any idea how much in taxes has been added to the price of the final product along the way. It allows the taxing authority to in essence hide the total amount of taxes on a product from the public.
Additionally it allows the Government to generate a larger amount of revenue with seemingly small tax increases. A 1% tax increase doesn't sound like much to the public, but if it is applied to the entire process it generates quite a bit of additional Tax revenue to the Fed.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 08:32 AM (iONHu)
I think it's about the most transparent tax available.
You have one tax that's added on to new goods and services across the board. No individual ever has to file tax returns again.
80% of the commerce now in the U.S. is done with larger companies. You can verify this by just thinking about where you personally spend money. Most goes to large grocery chains, gas companies, large retailers, mortgages, car payments, etc. No large company is going to try to Mickey Mouse their tax collections.
On the small business side, there are only a million small businesses as compared to 120 million individuals, so there is a lot less to keep track of. There are lots of ways to catch cheaters.
The great thing is that all the sources who would have never paid in to the system are now being tapped to reduce the burden on regular citizens.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:32 AM (Zs4uk)
"It is morally reprehensible to tax income"
This I totally agree with.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 08:32 AM (kLrYQ)
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At 6:37am? Wow, Molly...impressive! I'm also jealous. I run daily, but currently have a stress fracture. I'm off my hoof for 6-8 weeks. Waaaa...
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 08:33 AM (pVkEV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 08:31 AM (ZQfW9)
I agree in principle.
But in order to get the 16th amendment repealed, we have to show people the PAIN of income taxes.
A flat income tax begins to do this.
I see a flat income tax as a transitionary phase to eventual repeal of the 16th amendment, and then to a consumption based tax.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:33 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:34 AM (uZNvH)
So under the Fair Tax plan, what is to stop me from starting "chemjeff's fapping business" and just buy all my stuff tax free?
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (P0d70)
Watch how quickly the 16th amendment gets repealed when people learn they would get a check every month with the Fair Tax.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (P0d70)
Not gonna happen though.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (cbfNE)
he bows out.
He's at the age and position where he pretty much accomplished everything he wants to in life.
Build another tower? Open another resort?
Boring. He's done all that.
But, to take his skills at wheeling and dealing to the world stage...?
To be the guy who restores the economy and America to greatness?
To be the guy who rebuilds the middle class?
To be President of the United States of America?
That's a legacy, baby.
(and quite frankly, the blueprint for restoring America was already mapped out by Reagan for the most part.)
No, you don't throw that away.
Trump's in it to the end. The big trick for him is to pick a savvy, very aggressive conservative for VP, who knows the law and Constitution inside and out to help him get things done and whose name rhymes with Ted Cruz.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 08:37 AM (KUa85)
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (Zs4uk)
But they get big cash refund day NOW, it's called Tax Return Day.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:37 AM (uZNvH)
(1)the "unisex" uniforms look like they're just putting female sailors in, well, sailor suits, and toning down the old high-fashion "sailorette" look of the Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service, which I can't see as altogether a Bad Thing, and
(2)despite the layer of Planet Green, electric drive on warships is not new on non-submarines, and (Black Gang correct if wrong) makes low-speed maneuvering easier -- so, some good could come of this, depending on supplier scandal of course.
I'd like to know though, as they add side zippers to make the jumpers quicker to doff, do they still have 13 buttons on the bell-bottom trousers?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 08:37 AM (xq1UY)
I agree that this is the correct first step.
First give people the choice to opt out of the mandatory withholding scheme.
Then just gradually phase it out.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:38 AM (uZNvH)
Watch how quickly the 16th amendment gets repealed when people learn they would get a check every month with the Fair Tax.
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That's the problem right there. People trained to depend on getting a check from the govt.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:38 AM (cbfNE)
Two months after the conventions are over, having selected Trump and Sanders, the MFM will still be insisting it's Jeb verses Hillary.
That's how ridiculous this country is getting.
Icebergs can be floating off the North Carolina coast and the government and media will still be shouting about global warming.
Why do we even listen to these people anymore?
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 16, 2015 08:38 AM (1uTkE)
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 08:39 AM (pVkEV)
'Back to the Future' fans plan retro tour for Oct. 21, 2015
Of the LA area locations used while filming. And there's this:
"while fans prepare to celebrate the film yet again, one of the sequels predictions for the future, a Chicago Cubs World Series win, may yet come true.
The Cubs defeated the St. Louis Cardinals to win their National League division playoff series and will play either the New York Mets for a berth in the World Series."
http://tinyurl.com/pw8zj3w
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:40 AM (kdS6q)
We'll take care of everything if you just let us turn the machine on.
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 08:40 AM (u49WF)
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Fred Fuse?
Lead Bruise?
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:41 AM (cbfNE)
What I'd like to see is all 70,000 pages of the tax code discarded and Congress instructed to pass a simple tax code of no more than 100 pages. I wouldn't even mind a combination of Fair Tax + Flat Tax, so long as the combined rate was not excessive.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:41 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 08:41 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 08:41 AM (ppaKI)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:41 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (uZNvH)
One of the features of a Fair Tax Plan is that everyone has their citizenship established. With this there will be some sort of ID. Even without an individual ID, there will certainly be a business ID.
When a business purchases something tax free for resale, they would simply scan their card just like a credit card. The computer will keep track and know if and when the item is resold and taxes paid to the fed. If not, the Fapper business owner has some 'splainin to do.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:42 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 08:42 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 08:42 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 08:33 AM (pVkEV)
Stress is very unhealthy.
Running causes stress.
Drinking doesn't.
QED
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 08:42 AM (Zu3d9)
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another great vid link from 'ette. fascinating.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (TxJGV)
I see whiskey hiding behind today.
Wut? ok, fine, hookers, too. And in that regard, is Lamar Odom the poster child for the AoSHQ Lifestyle?
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (1hM1d)
Short of never watching TV, listening to radio, getting on the internet, or ever reading anything again, how do we avoid leftist propaganda?
It's like trying to avoid white trash while traveling through New Jersey.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (fWAjv)
The work, by it's nature, is transient, so I don't see a lot of these old towns doing great in the long run, but the people that live there are doing a hell of a lot better now than they were 5 years ago.
Would taxing them slowed that a little? Probably not, but the state's still getting money from those guys whether there's an extraction tax or not.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:44 AM (F26eZ)
Not gonna happen though.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (cbfNE)
Correct. Any new tax system is better than what we have now. Flat tax is simple and straight forward. Fair tax is good for business and is voluntary based upon your spending. But both take POWER away from the fascists in government so not going to happen.
Posted by: Zombie Alexander Hamilton at October 16, 2015 08:44 AM (D0NZx)
We are going to need a lot of gasoline to accelerate this fire.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 08:44 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:45 AM (ee9LE)
I take it you have been to the gub'nors mansion when dominoes makes a delivery?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 08:45 AM (kLrYQ)
Uh, if the lifestyle is marrying a Kardashian, spewing cocaine and viagra over $500-an-hour whores and then slipping into a coma, count me out.
I don't have $500.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 08:46 AM (ppaKI)
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Lady in Black, thanks for asking.
So far, not serious.
The eye doc said it's going thru vitreous detachment, which is normal for nearsighted people like me as we get older. He didn't see any tearing or detachment of the retina itself. There is a 5% chance of that still happening. So I am to take it easy for 3 weeks, watch out for any new mass of floaters or flashers or a curtain over my vision (in which case I call him asap). So fingers crossed.
He also said he doesn't think it's related to either high blood pressure or meds.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:47 AM (cbfNE)
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Dude, what part of "Clinton" don't you understand?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:48 AM (ee9LE)
Yup, weekend coming and I am off for a few weeks again on super secret Navy Business.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 08:36 AM (gf8BH)
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So your plan is to throw yourself overboard when the Mets lose to the Cubs?
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 08:48 AM (dFi94)
everyone has their citizenship established. With this there will be
some sort of ID. Even without an individual ID, there will certainly be
a business ID.
When a business purchases something tax free for resale, they would
simply scan their card just like a credit card. The computer will keep
track and know if and when the item is resold and taxes paid to the fed.
If not, the Fapper business owner has some 'splainin to do.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 08:42 AM (Zs4uk)
So how would the state know if my business was a "legitimate" business or not? There would have to be some bureaucracy deciding on which "legitimate" businesses gets the business ID and which don't qualify. And this bureaucracy would end up being staffed by Lois Lerner types. And this huge database of stuff that people buy, where would it be kept? I am guessing this database would also include individuals' gun-related purchases?
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:49 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:50 AM (uZNvH)
It was the KFC chicken that put him in a coma.
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2015 08:50 AM (UzPAd)
Saw a clip of Fiorina stoking the "he can't handle the pressure, he's not up to the scrutiny" meme, served up on Megyn's show, of course.
Almost fell over this morning watching Fox - Geraldo thinks Trump will get nomination, thinks Trump will make a great president.
Posted by: Joanne at October 16, 2015 08:50 AM (hgBpU)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:50 AM (uZNvH)
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Amen to that, bro.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:51 AM (cbfNE)
Khloe Kardashian gets to decide when to pull the plug.
#BlackLivesMatter
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 08:51 AM (sI4OA)
That Arrieta trade made up for the Lou Brock trade.
This series should finally make up for that 1969 thing. After the Cubs beat the Mets like a Kyle Schwarber bat on an over-the-plate fastball.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:51 AM (VndSC)
predictions for the future, a Chicago Cubs World Series win, may yet
come true.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 08:40 AM (kdS6q)
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You betcha baby
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 08:52 AM (dFi94)
But in order to get the 16th amendment repealed, we have to show people the PAIN of income taxes.
A flat income tax begins to do this.
I see a flat income tax as a transitionary phase to eventual repeal of the 16th amendment, and then to a consumption based tax.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:33 AM
Agreed
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 08:52 AM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (O7MnT)
And Maryland is any better?
Glass houses....stones.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 08:52 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 08:52 AM (mvenn)
Taxes. Everybody argues; the rich want a sales/VAT because they can afford it with their income. The poor want a subsidy because that would be fair. Nobody wants a flat tax because the poor should be exempt and the rich get away with paying less than their fair share.
The real problem is the governments, at all levels, spending too much on the wrong things. The real problem is a government which is too intrusive, and a government that neglects its most important function which is keeping the peace, and defending the country.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (LQN6G)
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:51 AM (VndSC)
Richie Hebner. Ball on the wall. 1973.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:51 AM (VndSC)
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Gut-punch. I hate the Mets.
This one's for you, Ron Santo!
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (dFi94)
If the old tax regime isn't knocked out before a new one is implemented, we'll just get both. And there's only one way the old tax system gets knocked out, and it ain't legislatively.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (F26eZ)
I'm good for 10 minutes.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (evdj2)
You. Are such a Tease.
votermom, I am pleased to hear this, and was hoping that's what you had. That happened to me two years ago, very scary just like yours, and the eye doctor said I was right to see him right away (considering other possibilities) and that it probably wouldn't happen again. It hasn't.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (xq1UY)
Well hello, Comrade! Have you felt the Bern?
Posted by: Comrade Sanders at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (uZNvH)
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Good news, even though anything called "detachment" regarding the eye is willies-inducing. At least it's not as bad as your initial worries, so that's a plus!
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (pVkEV)
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Yup, this my worry about any new policy that depends on bureaucratic implementation - realizing that it will be run by an army of Lois Lerners.
That's why I like Ted Cruz' s "make taxes so simple you file on a postcard" meme.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (cbfNE)
Almost fell over this morning watching Fox - Geraldo thinks Trump will get nomination, thinks Trump will make a great president.
Okay, nothing shakes my opinion of Trump more than that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (oVJmc)
This one's for you, Ron Santo!
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (dFi94)
Mr. Met will bonk-bonk you on the head with the rubber bat, toots.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (St6BJ)
march on Comisky Park where we hold another Disco Demolition Night.
This time we will finish what Bill Veck started.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (kLrYQ)
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (VndSC)
#BlackLivesMatter
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And turn the show into Khloe waits stoically by his bedside? That's not going to work. Buh bye Lamar.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:55 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:56 AM (F26eZ)
What is this "fair share" you speak of?
Ask that question of a lefty and the argument wins itself in seconds flat.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:56 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 08:56 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:56 AM (St6BJ)
If my beloved Cubs can notch 8 more wins this season, I urge all Cubs Fans to
march on Comisky Park where we hold another Disco Demolition Night.
This time we will finish what Bill Veck started.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 08:54 AM (kLrYQ)
Sorry to break it to you, but the Cubs will lose to the Royals in Game 7
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 08:56 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (ZQfW9)
He gets a solid platinum, 24k gold plated membership card with diamond clusters.
$75k, 4 day brothel blowout? Um, hells to the yeah!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (rCGpC)
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I love the Cubs more than some of my relatives (here's looking at you, Roy) but there's no way I'm giving up my BeeGees records.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (O7MnT)
What is this "fair share" you speak of?
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That's what a carney gets paid to tear down the Ferris Wheel and also to not sleep with their cousin in the trailer.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:58 AM (F26eZ)
More of a pre-disco Bee Gee fan than the Saturday Night Fever era. Although I quite like Main Course.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 08:58 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 08:58 AM (ee9LE)
Lady in Black, I am still nervous, to be honest.
Hubby has been very sweet about it, doing household chores and errands unexpectedly, which is nice.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:58 AM (cbfNE)
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Use Donna Summer. Works just fine.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 08:59 AM (VndSC)
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If the dude had a decent wingman, he might not be in the hospital. You can't undertake this level of debauchery alone...
Posted by: BunkerintheBurns at October 16, 2015 08:59 AM (WDySP)
Your predictions have not been so good lately. How did it feel to wake up Monday Morning knowing that your team was so pathetic it lost to the Bears?
He who talks shit last, talks shit the best.
That's why I said "if"
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (kLrYQ)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (8HTq1)
The other thing I like about are his supporters. They totally got in the face of the protesters at his last appearance.
Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (8HTq1)
#BlackErectionsMatter
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (St6BJ)
I think the stink is so bad that even liberals can smell it.
Good read on the crookedness http://tinyurl.com/pbx7wka
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 09:00 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 09:01 AM (cbfNE)
Veeck.
Well, he started a lot.
Midget batters, black players, ivy on the walls, organ music...
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:01 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:01 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:01 AM (8HTq1)
Now I'll be on a Bee Gee kick all day
Islands in the Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usezH_d3HV8
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:02 AM (dFi94)
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That was seen on a pro-Obama bumper sticker in Chinatown.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:02 AM (VndSC)
That's awful. I will pray for him.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 09:02 AM (cbfNE)
So yay donut, repair, replace... I'm thinking probly just get the snow tires and see if they can fix the verdammt tire...
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at October 16, 2015 09:02 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:03 AM (8HTq1)
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There is none so nose blind as he who will not smell.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:03 AM (ee9LE)
Yet, they're more than happy to quadruple the electric bills of those same people with nary a peep.
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 09:03 AM (pVkEV)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 09:03 AM (uZNvH)
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Cubs are still young though. Dodgers are old enough to know they suck.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:04 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:04 AM (8HTq1)
Question: Is it your intention to disenfranchise every military servicemember? Does it only apply while they are active duty, or does it apply in perpetuity?
What about military retirees or vets on disability? Do they no longer get a vote either?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:04 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:04 AM (JO9+V)
Pop Sefton grew up on the South Side so he hated the Cubs, and when he moved here to NYC, the Yankees. After the Dodgers and Giants abandoned us, the Mets were our go-to team.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:05 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:05 AM (rCGpC)
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Cubs are still young though. Dodgers are old enough to know they suck.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:04 AM (VndSC)
On any given day, anything is possible. The Mets were supposed to fold in 4 straight against the A's in '73 and they took it all the way to game 7.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:06 AM (St6BJ)
-Just the Punchline
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:06 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (kff5f)
What about military retirees or vets on disability? Do they no longer get a vote either?
Mil/retirees get the vote for life.
Talk about skin in the game.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (VndSC)
True. Remember when W. hinted at reforming Social Security after the '04 election? The media ran stories 24/7 about Republicans hating old people. And that was that.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (mvenn)
That really depends on how others smell, doesn't it?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (dFi94)
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How would anyone be able to tell the difference?
Every day is rage day for those a--holes.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 09:08 AM (a31sM)
I HATED Charlie Findlay's A's back then. Bando, Fingers, Campaneris, Hunter, Blue, Odom and especially Reggie Jackson. Feh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:08 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: slash buzz at October 16, 2015 09:09 AM (Efl1C)
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And didja see this? Anti-rape culture activist admits she raped someone.
http://tinyurl.com/oa6f8vb
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:09 AM (ee9LE)
that's where they put players they didn't know what to do with. Kind of
like the old Montreal Expos.
Like a young Nolan Ryan?
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (JO9+V)
Companies will pass that on to employees. Employees will complain and demand to be allowed to opt out.
I'm a genius, she said modestly.
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:07 AM (dFi94)
So every other team pretended to make them champs in '69 and '86?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (St6BJ)
That does seem to be a fairly safe assumption these days, doesn't it?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (kff5f)
39 The whole world is mad.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 07:10 AM
I had to make a quick search to see what a "Benedict Cumberbatch" might be (shows you how far out of the Pop Culture loop I am).
Was very impressed by his solid foreign policy credentials and long record of philanthropy and hard labor on behalf of the world's Downtrodden Peoples. Hell, he's rivaling Choom Boy!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 16, 2015 07:16 AM (eUxuB)
Just another #MeatspaceMarionette flapping his gums. Remember, he and his ilk have no original thoughts , only those which Simone else pens for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (BK3ZS)
I knew a loadmaster once who went down on a hooker in Thailand. Got gonorrhea of the throat.
Dude had to gargle a gallon (perhaps a slight exaggeration) of green shit (some kind of medication) every couple of hours for the next week.
There's having fun, and then there's having too much fun.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:11 AM (4nmNX)
How about #YayGoldenRice!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:11 AM (NOIQH)
I just got the official OLIF (old ladies in Florida) read on the Republican candidates. Talked to my mom who is a retired teacher and born and raised in Florida, lifelong Republican, she's got a ton of old lady friends in Florida. She is my barometer. So here it is, the truth, if you can handle it:
Trump - don't really like him, but the Republican party is so dysfunctional that I'd like to see him kick it all over.
Carson - don't know much about him.
Carly - I like her.
Gilmore - who?
Pataki - who?
An aside I wouldn't mind Mitt coming back.
Santorum - he's running?
Huckabee - he's running? We've had more than enough people from Arkansas.
Jindal - he looks too foreign.
Bush - we've had enough Bushes. Barbara said we don't need him, listen to your mama.
Cruz - don't know.
Paul - is that him or his dad who is so nutty?
Christie - I used to like him but when he introduced Mitt at the convention all he could talk baout was how great he was.
Rubio - not ready for a Hispanic.
Graham - well his office got me my passport expedited but he is light in the loafers
Kasich - the guy from Ohio? In that first debate I kind of thought he made a lot of sense.
And there you have it.
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (2Ocf1)
Seems Trump-level radical now, but, consider the AFL, USAC, and that other basketball thing that went on. The Fifties were a foreign country; they did things differently there.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (ee9LE)
How about #YayGoldenRice!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:11 AM (NOIQH)
#IStandWithMonsato
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (kff5f)
Wow that sounds beyond awful
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 08:47 AM (cbfNE)
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Ahhh, so, it's Obama's fault? I could have guessed!
Glad you're on the road to recovery.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 09:13 AM (TxJGV)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 09:13 AM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: John Lovitz as The Annoying Man at October 16, 2015 09:13 AM (qjyQp)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (JO9+V)
One of the worst trades in history.
http://tinyurl.com/ob9khdb
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 16, 2015 09:13 AM (5f5bM)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 09:13 AM (2Ocf1)
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Pardon me while I burn my memory banks to remove all traces of the above two sentences.
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (pVkEV)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (JO9+V)
At one point, the Mets had Amos Otis, Ken Singleton, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman. Very bad trades and cheapskate owners (the deRoulet family) meant years in the wilderness.
I'll never forget the Rigby cartoon from 1977 in the NY Post when M. Donald Grant traded Seaver. Shea Stadium was depicted as a haunted house and the caption read "Grant's Tomb."
He traded a franchise player/hall of gamer away for nobodies.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (RD7QR)
Hehehehe You just don't see quality literature like this much anymore.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:10 AM (St6BJ)
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Do not ever mention the '69 Mets to me. Ever. At all. Or no more Lutefisk for you.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM (O7MnT)
One word: Baltimore.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 09:15 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:15 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 09:15 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:15 AM (LUgeY)
Yet one more reason to loathe Robert Moses. Walter O'Malley got a very bum rap.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:15 AM (St6BJ)
Talk about skin in the game."
I tend to think that Heinlein had it right in Starship Troopers.
But some folks let the good feelings of bagging on govt. employees go to their head without realizing that there ARE some good people doing good and necessary work that are govt. employees.
G.I.s, CIA, Marshalls, and some more.
Cutting down the self perpetuating leviathan is good and necessary. But we have to be careful to not swing the hatchet in too wide of an arc because we got caught up in the moment.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:12 AM
I remember it well. I was walking point....
Posted by: Brian Williams at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (8HTq1)
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I thought we reached the pinnacle with "fossilized meat flaps," but noooooo.....
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (pVkEV)
Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 09:17 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM (dFi94)
"Meet the Mets, meet the Mets,
Step right up and greet the Mets!
Bring the kiddies, bring the wife.
Guaranteed you'll have the time of your life! . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:17 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:17 AM (JO9+V)
Who wow'd a hooker in bed
But once back on base,
was shamed and disgraced when
what the medics prescribed became his byline
- - gargle boy
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 16, 2015 09:19 AM (LQN6G)
Obviously I have to root for the Metropolitans, but how can any sentient baseball fan root against The Cubs?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 09:19 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (8HTq1)
He died way too young to be an influence. Yogi took the helm and in August of '73, with Tug McGraw's battle cry of "you gotta believe" they went from last place on August 11th to clinching the division from the Cubs on the last day of the season.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (St6BJ)
Antifreeze is one hell of a drink.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (KUa85)
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another great vid link from 'ette. fascinating.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 08:43 AM (TxJGV)
Thanks, I see Drudge put it up as well.
Good. Everyone needs to see this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (F26eZ)
Two words: Jersey Shore.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 08:57 AM
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Hey! Jersey Shore cast was from Staten Island, Noo Yawk.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (E6RIJ)
baseball ain't about sympathy wins, ya know
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (uZNvH)
Step right up and greet the Mets!
Bring the kiddies, bring the wife.
Guaranteed you'll have the time of your life! . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:17 AM (St6BJ)
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We lived on Long Island for a few yeas back in the 80's. This was pre-cable so we could only get the Yankee games and the Mets. Not going to watch the Yankees - never gonna happen. I'm a National League girl. So I force myself to watch Mets games, thinking I might warm up to them. Never did. I only tuned into the game because, baseball. But I still couldn't like them. I'm a genetic Cub.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:21 AM (dFi94)
Truth be told, I really have a passing interest in baseball. I have no kids of my own, and ever since my dad died, baseball has faded from my life.
He died before the 2004 season and didn't get to see his old White Sox finally win it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:21 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 09:22 AM (mvenn)
http://tinyurl.com/n9jbudw
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:22 AM (LUgeY)
No....but it also isn't about hacking your opponents' computer systems!
Yeah....I went there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 09:22 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:22 AM (8HTq1)
I hear ya. My dad used to love the Chicago Bears back in the old days, but he said he got tired of watching them win year after year. Tell that to a Yankee fan.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:23 AM (St6BJ)
Loadmaster?
More like load drinker!
Amirite?
Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2015 09:23 AM (KUa85)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:20 AM (St6BJ)
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How many times do I have to warn you, mister? That's it. I'm sending you zero jars of pickled herring for your birthday this year.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:23 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:23 AM (St6BJ)
I'll just bet they are!
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2015 09:24 AM (+c55T)
Fair Tax isn't exactly like the VAT tax but it's very close.
The proponents of the Fair Tax don't like that being said for good reason; it's a deal killer.
Flat Tax is the better way to go. IT is actually fairer.
Establish appropriate amounts for the cost of living for a person and the cost of a child. Say like in CT where it's $12,500.
Allow that and child costs (if any) for an initial deduction. Any income over that amount is taxed at a flat rate. No deductions, no tax shelters, no special laws to let some friends of Congress pay less taxes. No married filing etc.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 09:24 AM (Xo1Rt)
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Sounds like your old man and mine died at about the same time. My dad became an Atlanta Braves fan in his waning years, because he was able to watch all their games on TBS. Even though he lived in Colorado and had probably never been to Atlanta.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 09:24 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:24 AM (JO9+V)
If you had said you'd withhold Berghoff Beer or an assortment from Ann Sather's, then I'd be a bit more respectful.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:24 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 16, 2015 09:14 AM
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No fair! The Canucks and Guidos are Bennies who infest the shore from Memorial Day to Labor Day. They are not permanent residents.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:25 AM (E6RIJ)
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They are using a well-worn map made by the Secret Service.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:25 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Pajama Boy at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (+c55T)
3/19/04. Grew up (with Bad Bad Leroy Brown) on the South Side of Chicago and told me he virtually lived at Comiskey as a kid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (F26eZ)
That's what I thought too. But I figured, OK, I'll see if it's worth it. It was.
Shocked, I was. There's not much snark or condescension.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (LUgeY)
They need a forensic loadmaster . . .
That's it! I'm outta here! My work is done.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:27 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 08:53 AM (F26eZ)
That's where our playbook comes in. Just do it. Like our current tax system, like SS, like ObamaCare, just implement something and tell the naysayers to fuck off. Let's say Cruz gets elected. Implements the flat tax. Tells Congress, the media and the LIVs to go fuck themselves. Orders the IRS to do it. No one will stop it, they will just bitch and complain. We are not a nation of laws anymore. So do what you want like I did.
Posted by: Zombie FDR at October 16, 2015 09:27 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:27 AM (8HTq1)
and necessary. But we have to be careful to not swing the hatchet in
too wide of an arc because we got caught up in the moment.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:16 AM (4nmNX)
Aze, I'm with you on the need for caution, but exceptions are exceptions to the rule. They don't invalidate the rule.
As an example, the night he (or she) is nominated, the GOP nominee should convene a team to start reviewing every executive order, executive agreement, agency memorandum, etc., enacted since January 20, 2009, that has no authority other than the officeholder's pen. The rule should be that they will all be rescinded. The team's job is to find and justify the exceptions. (After that, they can start on rescinding the regulations that require notice and comment - that will be a multiyear process to wipe that slate clean, with all the litigation that will follow. Maybe it will be possible to suspend them while they are under review.)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 16, 2015 09:28 AM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Nathen Vaguely Asian Chew at October 16, 2015 09:28 AM (LQN6G)
One night in Bangkok, the hard men crumble...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 09:28 AM (ppaKI)
I don't know how to do the tiny URL thing, so no link, but it's the first article on the page.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:28 AM (E6RIJ)
Fan though I am, I HATE the name "Mets." Surely there were other, more suitable names the franchise could have taken.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:29 AM (St6BJ)
I caught part of that after B'Gal and I got home from our date. The best baseball movie evah, IMO.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:29 AM (LUgeY)
If y'all haven't read this from the Atlantic (yeah, I know, but Insty
linked it), I recommend it. It's long but well written and chronicles
what sounds like an awakening, which is always a good thing.
http://tinyurl.com/n9jbudw
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:22 AM (LUgeY)
nothing is conspiracy theory anymoresad thing is, they are looking at the wrong people a lot
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:30 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Nathen Vaguely Asian Chew at October 16, 2015 09:28 AM (LQN6G)
Was that a fortune cookie from Lucky Chang's?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:30 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 09:30 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:26 AM (8HTq1)
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I think sports is often an avenue of connection between dads and their kids, especially boys. It's a safe arena to go wild and share the ups and downs of emotions. I'm sorry that was absent for you.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 09:31 AM (dFi94)
Sheriff Andy might want to start carrying a gun now.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 09:31 AM (ppaKI)
Had that one open, ready to read. Here's the link:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pmhb45l
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:31 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2015 09:32 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (xq1UY)
I think it goes without saying that people are talking about the civil service system.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (evdj2)
I did leave a reminder there that all that gubmint gathering of information is illegal and that we actually do have a right to privacy.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (LUgeY)
Fan though I am, I HATE the name "Mets." Surely there were other, more suitable names the franchise could have taken.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:29 AM
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I hate it too, but I think someone must have liked the idea of Mets, Jets, Nets...plus it's better than the "Metropolitans" which is way too Modern Man-ish.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (E6RIJ)
If true, the Iraqis can get the weapons the U.S. gave them back! See how well Blahblahblah's strategy is working!
And you doubted him...
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (NOIQH)
I swear, I got up and shouted "WHAT???!!!" Man, was I disappointed, and pissed.
True story.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:34 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (E6RIJ)
I remember we had that stupid World Team Tennis here and the name was "The Sets."
Talk about beating a dead horse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:35 AM (St6BJ)
Talk about beating a dead horse.
Regrets.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 16, 2015 09:36 AM (vn2q2)
Back to the Fair Tax.
If you're an individual or a business that doesn't sell retail products or services, you wouldn't file anything with the government. You maintain your privacy in your home and papers, just like the Constitution says.
If you chose to engage in commerce, you will need to maintain records and report sales and taxes collected to the IRS.
As I mentioned before, the vast majority of business is now conducted with large corporations. Even the small businesses are affected, if they take credit cards.
You might be able to scam the system if you're buying bunch of organic carrots from a roadside farmer, if the farmer wants to take the chance you're not reporting them.
Your sister-in-law might still give you haircuts at her salon without charging tax, if she's 100% sure you won't get pissed off at her in the future and rat her out.
It's just not worth it.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 09:36 AM (Zs4uk)
If these "refugees" start the same shit they are pulling in Europe, Sheriff Andy won't be the only one packing.
The number of things that are likely to lead to bloodshed soon-ish are increasing by the day. So much so, that I cannot conveniently count them any more.
Worrisome indeed.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:36 AM (4nmNX)
I was amazed that the author even questioned our benevolent digital overlords.
I truly expected him to welcome them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:36 AM (LUgeY)
Where on the South Side?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2015 09:30 AM (Zu3d9)
Last address was the 8300 block of South Indiana, IIRC.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:37 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:37 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 09:38 AM (u5gzz)
http://tinyurl.com/nf24k63
Which is weird because thousands of years ago*, before the Palestinians were the Palestinians, they were Arabs.
*Ok - around 50 years ago, but hey... give or take.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 09:38 AM (BZAd3)
yet) is unsettling - and he's not talking about anything that most of us
haven't experienced, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:33 AM (NOIQH)
Google and social media are not our friends.Visiting family and friends is as private as we can get, and then, that is not even so safe anymore.It's true, in that article, about the black helo's. Someone I know had the same thing happen, after simply turning down a business deal with the DoD. That week, his company was audited, and his personal home had the black helo's flying overhead. We are not free anymore.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:38 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 09:39 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:35 AM
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Good grief, I never heard of that one.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:39 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:40 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:40 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 09:41 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 09:41 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
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No. And you NEVER read the content, even when it's this lame, if you want to make the top ten.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 16, 2015 09:43 AM (O2oQ5)
So that Atlantic article was unsettling. "Colossus: the Forbin Project" was supposed to be sci-fi, not an instruction manual.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:43 AM (St6BJ)
After nailing her for the obvious, they can work their way up to "Treason".
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (TxJGV)
do you see the irony in this? (from the American Thinker link - thanks)
the left are trying to destroy the middle class, and move everyone to centralized cities, yet this...
no words
but, hey, at least they can destroy rural America, step one, and conservative enclaves, step two.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2015 09:39 AM (E6RIJ)
Brainchild of Billie Jean King, IIRC.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (St6BJ)
Sheriff Andy might want to start carrying a gun now.
Go long on hogs and backhoes.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: FortWorthMike at October 16, 2015 09:45 AM (3rpCw)
That's one of those "construct" thingys the leftards like to talk about. Totally made up to advance an agenda.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:45 AM (LUgeY)
They might rely on Marine veteran Gomer, but he's under government surveillance for domestic terrorism.
Barney was fired after a #blacklivesmatter riot following the arrest of a the man who shot Floyd and ransacked his barber shop.
Goober was bankrupted and run out of town after refusing to let a gay couple have sex in his garage bathroom.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 09:46 AM (ppaKI)
After nailing her for the obvious, they can work their way up to "Treason".
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (TxJGV)
Section 793 of the Espionage Act. If that is ever invoked, and we have honest judges and juries, Hilary could be put away for a very long time.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:46 AM (St6BJ)
We're tired of hearing about this.
Posted by: Bridget loves Bernie at October 16, 2015 09:46 AM (9Fc79)
I'll just bet they are!
If you have ever been to Crystal, NV. The whole town isn't worth that much...
3 brothels, and a few homes.
Posted by: Colin at October 16, 2015 09:46 AM (Espnc)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 09:46 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:47 AM (St6BJ)
After nailing her for the obvious, they can work their way up to "Treason".
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 09:44 AM (TxJGV)
Emphasis on the "gross."
(The veal you must try! Yes!)
Posted by: Shecky Yoda at October 16, 2015 09:47 AM (RD7QR)
Someone is as full of shit as a Christmas goose.
Small towns and rural communities usually don't have shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:47 AM (rCGpC)
Hahahah! You're killin' me here, Sefton.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 09:47 AM (u5gzz)
than they pay in taxes is prohibited from voting. This especially
means anyone employed by the government.
Yea, I've been saying "No representation without taxation."
Posted by: Paladin at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (bxc5w)
Famous last words of loadmasters and NBA players everywhere.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (8HTq1)
Heh.
PCP. It's ironic and un-ironic at the same time.
Your government atwerk.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:49 AM (LUgeY)
Cali, New York, of course, but Texas? most mosques, terror activities and refugees
good Lord
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:49 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:50 AM (LUgeY)
From an ESPN article: Authorities are retracing Odom's $75,000 visit to the brothel.
I'll just bet they are!
So did he have that much cash? That's a problem. Did he use CCs? That's a problem, who's going to pay those bills if he's a dead fvcker?
Who gets his estate, the TV whore he married?
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 09:50 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (4nmNX)
Famous last words of loadmasters and NBA players everywhere.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (4nmNX)
I should've known better than to try to be upbeat.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (2Ojst)
Automated Payment Transaction Tax is the way to go. However, it must be part of a constitutional amendment to eliminate the income tax.
Link in my nick.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:52 AM (qCMvj)
that's where they put players they didn't know what to do with.
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Like Tom Glavine, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Gary Carter, Roberto Alomar, Eddy Murray, Keith Hernandez, Mike Piazza, Vince Coleman, Frank Viola, David Cone and John Olerud.
They were just aimlessly adrift in baseball looking for the Mets to scrape together a career for them.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2015 09:54 AM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (iQIUe)
They're all brown shirts in-training. The plan, I believe, is to consolidate them and have them spread joy and merriment throughout the land.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 16, 2015 07:35 AM (7RXcs)
Good. Consolidation makes volleys of fire more effective. Now, longbows or crossbows?
Posted by: rebel flounder at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (1DH1V)
Occupy, Commies, Anarchists, BLM -- all the same and all funded by the hate America and the Joooooooos groups.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:01 AM (iQIUe)
All he rioting, blocking, and assaulting has not gotten them far. So, don't be surprise if the up their game to bombings. Isnt that what the Weathermen did?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (D/1P4)
I tried to watch a 3 part special on Frontline about the Locerbie Bombing but couldnt get into it. The last episode they had one arab guy who was involved in the bombing of that nightclub in Berlin where US servicemen hung out. I'm thinking, what the fuck is he doing back in Germany? Who let him in?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:05 AM (iQIUe)
Elaborate. There are no "Palestinians". They are Arabs, just like all the others. Geopolitically, they are Jordanians and Egyptians. There is no ethnic difference, no prior kingdom or rulers. Palestinians are a fiction.
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 11:00 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at October 16, 2015 11:14 AM (bpn7O)
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