Rumblings: Turkey Has Shot Down a Russian Jet Violating Its Airspace

Turkey threatened this just a couple of days ago:

As Russian warplanes fly over Syria, neighboring NATO member Turkey says its fighter jets could open fire on them if they stray into Turkish airspace. The threat is serious and highlights the danger of a direct military confrontation between Russia and its old Cold War adversaries, including not just Turkey but the United States.
Tensions between Ankara and Moscow over Russia's stepped-up military involvement in the Syrian war escalated sharply on Monday when Turkey revealed two of its F-16 fighters intercepted a Russian jet that had crossed into Turkish airspace over the town of Yayladagi in the border province Hatay.

Now, bear in mind, Turkey is a NATO ally, and NATO has already declared it would defend Turkey in a conflict against Russia.

NATO has said it was prepared to send troops to Turkey to defend its ally after violations of Turkish airspace by Russian jets bombing Syria and Britain scolded Moscow for escalating a civil war that has already killed 250,000 people.
Officials at the U.S.-led alliance are still smarting from Russia’s weekend incursions into Turkey's airspace near northern Syria and NATO defense ministers are meeting in Brussels with the agenda likely to be dominated by the Syria crisis.
"NATO is ready and able to defend all allies, including Turkey against any threats," NATO’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters as he arrived for the meeting. ..

And now come rumors that Turkey (which Geraghty notes is very nationalistic, unlike the post-patriotic nation that is Obama's America) has shot down a Russian jet:

Twitter rumors that Turkey just shot down a Russian jet. In other news, Obama is talking to us about gun control.
— jimgeraghty (@jimgeraghty) October 9, 2015

Reports an hour ago of a Russian jet exploding over #Hreitan, #Aleppo, reports now claim Turksish AA downed the jet after airspace violation
— Sami (@Paradoxy13) October 9, 2015

The problem isn't just that we're obviously not going to defend Turkey. The problem is that this sissy bitch allowed -- or even instructed -- this NATO commander to go out there and claim that there's a Red Line here, when of course there is not.

Posted by: Ace at 05:50 PM

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1 No way

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at October 09, 2015 05:51 PM (cygkw)

2 Yeah, baby!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at October 09, 2015 05:51 PM (1eYr7)

3 Uh oh.

Posted by: Golfman at October 09, 2015 05:51 PM (48QDY)

4 I'm watchin' you.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (0O2Lr)

5 Threepeat?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (2z4UX)

6 Uuuuuul
*tugs collar*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (JmGFJ)

7 Zero defend Turkey? Not a chance.

Posted by: maddogg at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (xWW96)

8 The fucker in the white hut is going to end up starting WW III.

Posted by: Mojojojo at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (Y3DtO)

9 Well, all that talk of World War III seems now to have been a bit of a jinx.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM (bLnSU)

10 Do you thing Barky is stand up enough that this is an issue?

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (0O2Lr)

11 Well this might not turn out well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (AkOaV)

12 Something something WWI.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (JmGFJ)

13 So, are we up to World War Five now, or will this be World War Six?

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (jBuUi)

14 This is just so stupid.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (7shwm)

15 Time for the "this will get out of hand" meme?

Posted by: anon a mouse at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (aeRWb)

16 Tensions are high.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (JO9+V)

17 this happened because Bush lied to that Turkey place about we would protect in some bogus treaty he drafted. Presdent obama will take care of Turkey and afterwards they will love him like we do and also realize Bush was an idiot for not addressing Global Worming which this war created by Bush in the ME is about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 05:53 PM (EIFYf)

18 Unless someone bombs a golf course, the Grifter has no interest in whatevers is happening around the world.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (0O2Lr)

19 I think if Russia strikes back and Europe sides with Turkey, we have World War III whether or not Obama gets his thumbs out of his jockstrap.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (bLnSU)

20 $50 says NATO backs away from Turkey, leading to the collapse of NATO.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (OmBeX)

21 Modern man doesn't care about turkey.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (88xKn)

22 I only see twitter chatter though, this looks to be far from confirmed.

But yeah, a NATO member state shooting down a Russian jet would be, as a famous poet once said, "a big fuckin' deal"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (AkOaV)

23 The fucker in the white hut is going to end up starting WW III.

Do you think he'll start it before he leaves office or that will happen if and when he does leave office?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (GERXL)

24
Meanwhile in Roseburg, Oregon, 8000 protesters show up to tell Barky to go home.

http://tinyurl.com/nwcwu44

Posted by: dartist at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (kDYa9)

25 Wheeeee.
Here we go, it's all downhill from here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (wabh2)

26 Turkey for dinner.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (0x/TW)

27 ...and that's when the fight started.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (RwwCT)

28 Obligatory...

http://bit.ly/1LmwM6W

Posted by: Golfman at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (48QDY)

29 What's the warning time on incoming ICBM's?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 09, 2015 05:55 PM (YEelc)

30 Now what ? Now what will he do ? Whatever he does, he better get it right. Because if he doesn't get it right, we will have turned a corner.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 05:55 PM (dFi94)

31 This will. not. stand!

Posted by: Bitch McConnell with a Dick In His Mouth at October 09, 2015 05:55 PM (u5gzz)

32 Remember that Turkey hates Russia from WAAAAAYYYY back. They are like ancestral adversaries that remember every century or so that, hey yea that's right, we want to exterminate each other.

In fact, that was the whole reason Turkey chose to join NATO in the first place 70 years ago -- as a way to strengthen its position against is old rival Russia.

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 05:55 PM (jBuUi)

33 20
$50 says NATO backs away from Turkey, leading to the collapse of NATO.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM (OmBeX)

Prohibitive favorite.

Posted by: Guido the Bookie at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (Mz/Zg)

34 Well, this is going to suck.

Posted by: Franz Joseph at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (tlqam)

35 "$50 says NATO backs away from Turkey, leading to the collapse of NATO.
Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 05:54 PM"

That's what I think, and that is probably what the plan was all along.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (7shwm)

36 That town in Oregun obviouslly hated Blacks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (EIFYf)

37 Posted by: Merovign

Good point.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (0O2Lr)

38 This will get out of control, it will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (bLnSU)

39 This will be interesting.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (9VLhN)

40 @28

Was looking for the quote myself. He's right this shit is going to get out of control.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (jJRIy)

41 I mean, we're treaty bound to defend a NATO ally, aren't we?

Or is a not-treaty a treaty, and a treaty a not-treaty, depending on His imperial will?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (QFjNO)

42 I don't believe that NATO and the UN can exist simultaneously in the hivemind of the Obama Administration. And anyway, we have an executive treaty with Iran, or something.

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (3tjn4)

43 Highway to the Danger Zone!

Posted by: Maverick at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (JO9+V)

44 And if he commits any of our troops to whatever his decision is HE BETTER DAMN WELL HAVE THEIR BACKS

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (dFi94)

45 I might get WWIII for my birfday.

Next week.

Yay?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (LUgeY)

46 Not the hill to die on?

Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (u5gzz)

47
The Sum of All Fears (2002) - Aircraft Carrier is Attacked

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7v21Zy1yE

Of course, this couldn't happen in real life, because the Ruskies fear Obama's Navy -- consisting of a fleet of ungunned LCS crewed by shemale sailors.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (kdS6q)

48 You know, couldn't they have started the war on a Monday? I hate worrying on the weekend.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (bLnSU)

49 Duck n' Cover? Not yet? Soon?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (McRlu)

50 "...so I said 'Shit in your hat!' and the fight was on..."

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (OmBeX)

51 The citizens of Brattleboro (Gay, Lesbian, and others) call on Presdent Oblamama to do something about this and apologize for what Bush has done to create this mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (EIFYf)

52 Ash Carter is on right now saying the Pentagon will be sending get-well cards and little necessaries bags to all the affected parties.

Posted by: MTF at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (TxJGV)

53 As a history brush-up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russo-Turkish_wars

The Russo-Turkish wars were a series of wars fought between the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 20th centuries. It was one of the longest series of conflicts in European history.

1 Russo-Turkish War (1568–70) Russian military victory[1]
Ottoman commercial victory[2]
2 Russo-Turkish War (1676–81) Treaty of Bakhchisarai[3]
3 Russo-Turkish War (1686–1700) Russia gains possession of Azov
fortress of Taganrog
Pavlovsk and Mius[4]
4 Russo-Turkish War (1710–11) Ottoman victory[5]
5 Austro-Russian–Turkish War (1735–39) Treaty of Nis (1739)[6]
6 Russo-Turkish War (1768–74) Russian victory
7 Russo-Turkish War (1787–92) Russian victory
8 Russo-Turkish War (1806–12) Russian victory
9 Russo-Turkish War (1828–29) Russian victory
10 Crimean War (1853–56) Ottoman, British, French and Italian victory
11 Russo-Turkish War (1877–7

Russian victory[7]
12 World War I: Caucasus Campaign (1914–1

Armistice of Erzincan

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So yeah, there is massive hatred and resentment there.

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (jBuUi)

54 Doesn't Roseburg have about 15,000 in total population, and 8,000 showed up? Wow.

I guess pissed Obama wil grab their guns first.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (GERXL)

55 And if he commits any of our troops to whatever his decision is HE BETTER DAMN WELL HAVE THEIR BACKS

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 05:57 PM (dFi94)

I think that's what they call a vain hope.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (bLnSU)

56 Meanwhile in Roseburg, Oregon, 8000 protesters show up to tell Barky to go home.
http://tinyurl.com/nwcwu44
Posted by: dartist at October 09, 2015 05:52 PM
===========

Damn. 8000? Really? In a town of 20k on a weekday and with that little notice? Nice.

I'm impressed.

Posted by: TJ Camper at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (gWp07)

57 Now what ? Now what will he do ? Whatever he does, he better get it right. Because if he doesn't get it right, we will have turned a corner.

With his Mierdas Touch, I'm somewhat less than confident.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (LUgeY)

58 It's too late for more ammo. I'm buying more food this weekend.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (u5gzz)

59 >>It would be well for your government to consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity... is inherently DANGEROUS. Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador

Who knew that The Hunt For Red October was a warning not a movie?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (/tuJf)

60 In the second, Hurriyet excerpt, the lack of a comma here makes for some scary reading: "Russian jets bombing Syria and Britain"

Posted by: m at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (tElZn)

61 Posted by: Chupacabra at October 09, 2015 05:56 PM (QFjNO)

Not a treaty. A DEAL. Elebenty.

Posted by: Golfman at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (48QDY)

62
I might get WWIII for my birfday.

Next week.

Yay?

At least you know it'll be a blast.

Followed by a mushroom cloud and radiation poisoning, but a blast all the same.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (YEelc)

63 @24

Chance the posters will be seen on MSM?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (jJRIy)

64 Putin won't do shit to Turkey.

Not that anything in this pile of shit is any worse than anything else in this pile of shit.

No way Putin attacks Turkey.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (rjtGa)

65 The Turks might be able to take them.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (EioIi)

66 Astros 4 -3 bottom of 6th, bases loaded, 1 out. 2nd pitcher change.

Posted by: Maverick at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (JO9+V)

67 The Pope wants us all to know that when the Devil numbs our conscience, he has won. "Conscience" being measured in the number of refugees the West lets in, Christian or not

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 05:59 PM (tlqam)

68 I don't think Barky will stand down. He's aware now of what a fool and a wimp the rest of the world thinks he is, Putin very much included. His ego will make him do something without thinking it through. This is when things get really dangerous.

Posted by: pep at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (LAe3v)

69 The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (AkOaV)

70 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (GwIKd)

71 Shit status.

Real.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (LA7Cm)

72 Holy frak. Just reported on Fox that we announced today that we are pulling Patriot missile batteries out of Turkey.

Why don't we just surrender and get it over with.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (/tuJf)

73 We'll meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But we'll meet again
Some suunnnnyyy day!

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (FohCt)

74 Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (rjtGa)

75 Cue up Barry McGuire.

Putin wouldn't punish just any old NATO member would he? He would go after the real perpetrator, right?

Posted by: Dave, exiled again at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM (SMIkO)

76 The Royals are staging a comeback

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM (tlqam)

77 Those are *lousy* pictures of the Obama protest in Oregon.

Somebody buy that photographer a pole or a selfie stick or something, you can only see a few people at a time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM (bLnSU)

78
KirstenPowers had big news on #TheFive: "Tomorrow night at 7 o'clock, I'm becoming Catholic!"

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM (iQIUe)

79 Massive Ramen purchase coming up.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (u5gzz)

80 8,000...wow.

That's almost half the population, which is a pretty good turnout.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (zyIlW)

81 Playoff baseball is ridiculously entertaining 'cause of how nervous some of these guys become.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (kqGWM)

82 Shit status is real.

Royals just tied the game and counting.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (rjtGa)

83 Holy frak. Just reported on Fox that we announced today that we are pulling Patriot missile batteries out of Turkey.

Why don't we just surrender and get it over with.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (/tuJf)
===========================

Why would he do that? Why would he do that?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (dFi94)

84 Nothing on Google about any shot down. I suspect this might become an "accident" and ignored?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (jJRIy)

85 Jackstraw

Bet the Turks grab the nukes we have deployed at Inalcik.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (EioIi)

86 Just overheard on Fox, that the US is pulling Patriot missile batteries out of Turkey and with the USS Roosevelt leaving the Persian Gulf, with no replacement we will not have a carrier battle group in the Gulf for the first time in a very long time.
I wonder when the decision to pull the Patriot missile batteries was made.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (9iR5/)

87 Does Putin really give a shit about his troops?

Doubt it.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (rjtGa)

88 And now we're back in the sauce~!

Posted by: fallout shelter contractor at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (JmGFJ)

89 Good...we all gotta duck when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (ej1L0)

90 Shy-ria just got real.

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (jBuUi)

91 Oh, don't be such worry-warts. My spies tell me Russia's missile force is seriously degraded due to lack of maintenance.

Mind you, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but US casualties likely to be lower than generally estimated.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (OmBeX)

92 Does anyone know if the Russian pilot shot down was a gay or lesbia?? That would be a very bad for the world to absorb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (EIFYf)

93 Why use red lines when you're a rainbow warrior?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (QvClr)

94 Oh, Hell, *I* want the 1980s foreign policy back! Warts and all, better than what we have!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (bLnSU)

95 Admiral Josh Painter wasn't first?

Can we have a recount?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (sI4OA)

96 KirstenPowers had big news on #TheFive: "Tomorrow night at 7 o'clock, I'm becoming Catholic!"

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM (iQIUe)
=======================

I thought she was going to an evangelical church. Huh.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (dFi94)

97 Let the French handle it.

heh....

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (rjtGa)

98 Why would he do that? Why would he do that?
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (dFi94)

http://tinyurl.com/9cncjn3

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (AkOaV)

99 Astros pitching collapse. All tied, bases still loaded and 1 out. Royals on the move.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (JO9+V)

100 77 Those are *lousy* pictures of the Obama protest in Oregon.

Somebody buy that photographer a pole or a selfie stick or something, you can only see a few people at a time.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

Now if I had a travel fund...

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (jBuUi)

101 War hysteria all week end, then early sunday morning when everyone is asleep. . .

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (7shwm)

102 you can only see a few people at a time.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:01 PM
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Yeah, sure as hell doesn't look like 8k but I'll remain hopeful awaiting further news.

Posted by: TJ Camper at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (gWp07)

103 73 We'll meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But we'll meet again
Some suunnnnyyy day!
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (FohCt)

==========
I like that song. So many songs associated with WW2 had real meaning. Also liked:

When the Lights Go On All Over the World
I'll be seeing you in all the familiar places

All these songs dealt with people being separated for long periods of time.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (iQIUe)

104 "The problem is that this sissy bitch allowed -- or even instructed -- this NATO commander to go out there and claim that there's a Red Line here, when of course there is not."

NATO generals have shown more sense in the past.

Just going to quote one more time what General Sir Mike Jackson said back in the 1990s when Weaselly Clark ordered him to forcibly seize the airfield at Pristina, even though Russian airborne forces had already done that, infuriating Clark by making him look slow and tentative as a commander.

Jackson's on the record reply to Clark was, "Sorry, but I'm not going to start World War Three for you."

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (noWW6)

105 Barky won't back turkey

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (GwIKd)

106 Obama has really managed to turn the mid east into a powder keg.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (iQIUe)

107 87 Does Putin really give a shit about his troops?

Doubt it.
Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:03 PM (rjtGa)

Why?

My guess would be he gives at least as much of a shit about his troops as Obama does about his.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (AkOaV)

108 I can't find the email to contact ace about the website diversion crap. Anyone?

Posted by: Blano at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (LbDXZ)

109 >>Why would he do that? Why would he do that?

Same report said something about removing a carrier from the region and not having one there now for the first time in years or something. I was kind of stunned about removing the missile battery and running that same question through my head so I may have heard that wrong but what the hell?

>>Bet the Turks grab the nukes we have deployed at Inalcik.

A few years ago I would have said that was crazy talk. Not anymore.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (/tuJf)

110 Twitchy has some better photos of OR protest, but yes, they should have found a way to get an arial view.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (GERXL)

111 As a member of NATO, Turkey cannot accept military supplies from Russia. They can, however, shoot down planes that just happen to be carrying important materiel, and stockpile them for later use against the Eurobanks.

This has been your Friday Conspiracy Minute.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (2lndx)

112 This sounds bad....

Posted by: Lea at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (vmMMi)

113 Never mind, Zombie, we appreciate the hell you put yourself through.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (OmBeX)

114 Yeah, sure as hell doesn't look like 8k but I'll remain hopeful awaiting further news.

Posted by: TJ Camper at October 09, 2015 06:04 PM (gWp07)

They did say they had no specific location to target, so they were spread all over town.

But it would be nice to have a third-party count.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (bLnSU)

115 Looks like the Patriot removal was announced a few months ago as part of some vague equipment modernization effort. Does seem a bit auspicious that the actual removal would begin today though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (kqGWM)

116 105
Barky won't back turkey

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (GwIKd)

He's more of a tofu guy, right?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (jJRIy)

117 The 8,000 number was reportedly the number of people who said they would come. On Facebook.
So, YMMV.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at October 09, 2015 06:06 PM (dftoG)

118 US is pulling Patriot missile batteries
out of Turkey and with the USS Roosevelt leaving the Persian Gulf, with
no replacement we will not have a carrier battle group in the Gulf for
the first time in a very long time.
==============================

Well this just gets better and better. I sense a pattern here. Disarm the protection of our allies, disarm the capabilities of our military, disarm our private citizens - hey - if I didn't know better I'd think he wanted us all dead.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (dFi94)

119 You really can't use hyperbole to describe the disaster that is the Obama administration. There are not words strong enough.

NATO will be over if this is true.

Transformative indeed.

Our nation is transformed into a Soviet satellite.

Posted by: petunia at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (VoCyE)

120 My guess would be he gives at least as much of a shit about his troops as Obama does about his.

So, just props for photo ops?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (YEelc)

121 so much for the Astro 'pitching collapse'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (tlqam)

122 10 pesos say Putin's next interview will be from the cockpit of a fighter/bomber fueling up on the tarmac while Barry's next will be from a Turkish bathhouse.

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (3tjn4)

123 108 I can't find the email to contact ace about the website diversion crap. Anyone?
Posted by: Blano at October 09, 2015 06:05 PM (LbDXZ)

bottom right of the sidebar.

But, uh, don't think youre going to change anything.

just use an ad blocker.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (AkOaV)

124 Josh Fields saves the Astros bacon.

4 -- 4.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:07 PM (rjtGa)

125 if I didn't know better I'd think he wanted us all dead

That's what his supporters voted for.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (tlqam)

126 Stockpiling off-brand mac & cheese can make for a fun weekend.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (u5gzz)

127 This is not the method I would have chose to get US or Turkey out of NATO, although both are good ideas.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (DL2i+)

128 President Alinsky Soetoro started standing down the day he was inaugurated.

You can see the reflected hollow look of stupidity in the eyes of Ash Carter, Kirby, Kerry, or anyone who has had push forward or answer for, his sniveling cowardice.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (u49WF)

129 Time to brush up on my Book of Revelation.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (oVJmc)

130 I can't believe Drudge has had a picture of my maid with Trump up all day.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (jJRIy)

131 Why should the US or NATO support the Islamist Turks against Russia?
Let Mr. Armenian/Assyrian Genocide, persecutor of Kurds, wouldn't
allow the US to use its bases during the Iraq War, supporters of ISIS,
didn't lift a finger to help the Kurds and Yezidis at Kobane... If NATO
is dead, let duplicitous Turkey die first...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (ppIyy)

132 NATO called upon to defend member nation of Turkey.

The Belgians respond by vowing to send their tank. As soon as it gets out of the shop. Where it has been since the winter of 2011.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (noWW6)

133 Why is everone so mean to our Presdent of Color whom has to clean up this mess BUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Created ??????????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (EIFYf)

134 The EU has not accepted Turky, we will see if NATO will

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (hRYWK)

135 I'd rather die in a fire than eat off-brand mac 'n cheese.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (kqGWM)

136 126 Stockpiling off-brand mac & cheese can make for a fun weekend.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed

That'd better be jalapeno and bacon mac 'n' cheese or I will face stomp you into the pavement right here, bitch!

Posted by: zombie at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (jBuUi)

137 I'm sorry, that could've been President Cloward Piven.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (u49WF)

138
From Aug 17 2015 Defense News:

Turkey and United States said that Washington would withdraw its Patriot missile batteries from the country in October after bolstering Ankara's air defenses against threats from Syria's civil war.

The NATO mandate for the two-year mission will run out in October and will not be renewed, but the US is prepared to return Patriot assets and personnel to Turkey within one week if needed, a joint Turkish-US statement said.

They will be redeployed to the US for critical modernization upgrades that will ensure the US missile defense force remains capable of countering evolving global threats and protecting Allies and partners, including Turkey, the statement said.

So, looks like a preplanned move. Of course, you'd think someone would have revised that plan given the current sitrep.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (kdS6q)

139 That Goddamn Bush!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (4ErVI)

140 There is a prepper store in CLT. Bet it's busy this weekend.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (jJRIy)

141 Their tank's in the shop, along with their Ferrari.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (QFjNO)

142 we up to World War Five now,

Losing WWIII redo while losing WWIV, TSFG - That's Some Fuckup Guy.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (DL2i+)

143 "127 This is not the method I would have chose to get US or Turkey out of NATO, although both are good ideas.'

With Russian bombers staged in Cuba, I'd appreciate if bombing on America would automatically start WW3 instead of just being something we rant about on the floor of the UN.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (EioIi)

144 It's the end of the world and I feel fine

Leaving for fish fry. See you morons later

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (MwNIp)

145 Whew! Wake up those Astros bats. Go sacrifice a chicken if you have to. Rum and cigar offering to JoBu. Anything!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:10 PM (JO9+V)

146 Well, I guess we're about to find out what the SCOAMF meant when he promised that after the elections, he'd have more flexibility.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:10 PM (iIzG7)

147 Any self respecting man who was president of the United States at this point would resign stating he has know idea what he is doing and hasn't for the last six years.
But unfortunately we have a Jack off who thinks he's the smartest person in the world and we should be glad he's our president and soon become the emperor of the world.

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2015 06:10 PM (gY61M)

148 NATO has said it was prepared to send troops to Turkey to defend its
ally after violations of Turkish airspace by Russian jets bombing Syria
and Britain scolded Moscow for escalating a civil war that has already
killed 250,000 people.

Not without the US they won't. How exactly would they get troops to Turkey without US logistical support? You don't even have to spend your time googling - see link below

http://tinyurl.com/nh53pxx

The NATO sabre rattling is idiotic. No troops will move anywhere unless the US gives the green light, and I can give you my thoughts/odds on our president giving that green light as none, forget the slim.

Posted by: JeffreyL at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (mXv3y)

149 131 Why should the US or NATO support the Islamist Turks against Russia?
Let Mr. Armenian/Assyrian Genocide, persecutor of Kurds, wouldn't
allow the US to use its bases during the Iraq War, supporters of ISIS,
didn't lift a finger to help the Kurds and Yezidis at Kobane... If NATO
is dead, let duplicitous Turkey die first...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (ppIyy)

Turkey is a NATO member since, I don't know, like the '50s.

Ever since the whole Greeks loving the Soviets thing.

For the rest of NATO to ignore Turkey now would be... problematic.

I mean, I'm not saying I want to defend Turkey either, but, well... NATO is kind of a big treaty for the US and Europe, it would be very... bold... to break that treaty.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (AkOaV)

150 And so it begins.

Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's beginning, but is right this time at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (kTF2Z)

151 Oh shit.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (mcm0N)

152 Horseradish is great with fried fish.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (rjtGa)

153 We should have kicked Turky out of NATO when they would not enter Iraq from the north in 2003

Turkey adds no value

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (hRYWK)

154 Pity that Kurdistan is landlocked and surrounded by Turks on one side, Iranian puppets on the other.

They're better allies than the Turks have been.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (tlqam)

155 I can't find the email to contact ace about the website diversion crap. Anyone?
Posted by: Blano

aceofspadeshqATgmailDOTcom

twitter is faster though
@aceofspadesHQ

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (JmGFJ)

156 Time to brush up on my Book of Revelation.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 09, 2015 06:08 PM (oVJmc)
========================

I went straight to the very last verse. Last thing written in the Bible.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (dFi94)

157 A buncha years ago I researched whether Turkey was *actually* a member of NATO and came away undecided.

Anyone know exactly?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (sI4OA)

158
So Turkeys can fly?

Posted by: Les Nessman at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (ODxAs)

159 If the Ottomans go to war, where will we get our sofa accessories?

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (wAQA5)

160 I will respond anyway I want and Obama will do nothing. In Moscow we call him "Mitch", short for "My Bitch."

Posted by: Vlad at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (c7vUv)

161 We'll know pretty soon if this shoot-down is real.

The first question isn't what Turkey or the USA does next.

If Turkey shot down a Russian jet, the ball is in Putin's court.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (3myMJ)

162 Not much of an air force if their planes can be shot down by a turkey.....those fuckers can't even fly

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (uJK1E)

163 "135 I'd rather die in a fire than eat off-brand mac 'n cheese."

Yeah, but Aldi sells it for forty cents. So there.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (u5gzz)

164 Remember, sending your own troops to back up your only ally in the region is not leadership!

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (EioIi)

165 Not that Turkey's been our "best" friend, but I think pulling the missiles out is a mistake.

Alex, I'll take "Betrayal of Allies" for $800

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (u49WF)

166 Are they sure it's Russian as opposed to Syrian?

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (mcm0N)

167
I always liked the expression "I have bigger fish to fry."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (e0fQD)

168
Fishbone - Party at Ground Zero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLm7Y90L1G4

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 06:12 PM (kdS6q)

169 Does Putin really give a shit about his troops?
-----------
Probably about as much as Stalin did. Zhukov, in order to clear mine fields quickly, would just march a bunch of his soldiers across it. The follow on troops could then pick up the weapons of the dead if they didn't have one.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (9iR5/)

170 Posted by: JeffreyL at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (mXv3y)

???

I get that most of NATO is the US, but uh -- the US does not need to give anyone the green light for European troops to use the Mediterranean sea or to march through Greece to Turkey.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (AkOaV)

171 Turkey adds no value
Posted by: Yo!

Well, add some bacon, tomater, and dressing it's not bad.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (JmGFJ)

172 Been away so long I hardly knew the placeGee, it's good to be back homeLeave it till tomorrow to unpack my caseHoney, disconnect the phone
I'm back in the USSRYou don't know how lucky you are, boyBack in the US, back in the USBack in the USSR
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me outThey leave the West behindAnd Moscow girls make me sing and shoutThat Georgia's always on m-m-my mindOh, come on

Posted by: Beatles at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (FohCt)

173 Leaving for fish fry. See you morons later

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (MwNIp)
======================
Nothing beats Friday Fish Fry in Wisconsin. Have fun! Say hello to the cod for me.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (dFi94)

174 Five reasons that a war with Russia is a smart move....

Posted by: Matt Yglesias at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (f+6Pd)

175 The Syrians fly older MIGs

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (mcm0N)

176 "Just overheard on Fox, that the US is pulling Patriot missile batteries
out of Turkey and with the USS Roosevelt leaving the Persian Gulf, with
no replacement we will not have a carrier battle group in the Gulf for
the first time in a very long time"

Congress, next week: "THIS IS AN UTTER OUTRAGE!!! WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS AIRCRAFT CARRIER SHORTAGE!!! WE DEMAND TO KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE!!!"

The Navy, next week: "Uh, you are. We told you repeatedly that we weren't getting enough money to keep 12 big-deck carriers in active commissioned service. You told us to cut the count by one. We said that was going to produce inevitable deployment shortfalls. You said that was perfectly okay. We noted that it's an existing federal law for us to keep 12 active big decks. You said we should ignore that law."

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (noWW6)

177 Why would he do that? Why would he do that?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (dFi94)

We don't call him a SCOAMT just for funs.

Posted by: East Bay KG at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (YUrE9)

178 I wish I knew where this merry-go-round will stop. Can't say I have a clue.

Posted by: AD at October 09, 2015 06:13 PM (4inoK)

179 Leaving for fish fry. See you morons later

Oh sure, go eat that nice mess of crappies you caught last week and not offer anyone a taste.

Posted by: dartist at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (kDYa9)

180 Exactly, we were already pulling out of Turkey, so the cavalry is unlikely to ride to the Turk's rescue today. Especially with Captain Conciliatory in command.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (OmBeX)

181 " Stockpiling off-brand mac & cheese can make for a fun weeken"

Target sells their brand for like 4/$1.00

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (LzzEz)

182 How could Romney been so wrong about Russia?

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (0O2Lr)

183 Or is a not-treaty a treaty, and a treaty a not-treaty, depending on His imperial will?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-PAJDPpkpE

with 22+ different accents.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (DL2i+)

184 Old intelligence saying: The first report is always wrong.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (r65B3)

185 NATO can move troops to Turkey easily via their high speed trains. I'm not sure how much good ground troops can do to protect against aerial bombardment unless their purpose is to be bomb catchers.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 06:14 PM (7shwm)

186 How could the media been so right about that idiot Romney?

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (0O2Lr)

187 Anyone know exactly?
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (sI4OA)

Yes, I know Turkey is a NATO member and has been for 60+ years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (AkOaV)

188 I think that in order to score points in this game, the wooden stick thingy is supposed to make contact with the white thingy that looks like a baseball.

Someone should tell the Astros' bullpen.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (tlqam)

189 Jack

We're flying out of Incirlik.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (mcm0N)

190 The citizens of Brattleboro (Gay, Lesbian, and others) call on Presdent Oblamama to do something about this and apologize for what Bush has done to create this mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (EIFYf)
_____

I must say that I generally dont see the humor in these antics, but especially not when we are facing such a dire situation.

Posted by: Begonia at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (ed6PS)

191 Once again, fuch you 52%.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (0O2Lr)

192 Then again, it's a sign even Turk equipment can down Vlad's migs.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (oVJmc)

193 77/102

They're probably only showing a few protesters on purpose, so that's how the media can portray it...."a few radical protesters" or some such shit.

Posted by: Blano at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (LbDXZ)

194 Missiles landing in Iran by "mistake", Turkey shooting down Vlad's jet, don't worry, everything is under control.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2015 06:16 PM (wAQA5)

195 And for context and historical timelines...

Two empires (Roman & Ottoman) spanned the entire gap from Jesus to Babe Ruth.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:16 PM (u49WF)

196 "Target sells their brand for like 4/$1.00"

That's luxury shit right there. I'm on it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:16 PM (u5gzz)

197 152
Horseradish is great with fried fish.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (rjtGa)

And beer, don't forget beer.

By the way, turkeys can fly like shit http://tinyurl.com/otvzetp

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:16 PM (jJRIy)

198 Obama is such a pussy.

It must suck to become something you hate.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 09, 2015 06:16 PM (AC0lD)

199 "Just overheard on Fox, that the US is pulling Patriot missile batteries out of Turkey and with the USS Roosevelt leaving the Persian Gulf, with no replacement we will not have a carrier battle group in the Gulf for the first time in a very long time"

Can I just refer to Barack Obama as Theoden, King of Rohan now?

Posted by: AD at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (4inoK)

200 JoBu is not pleased. Bats still asleep.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (JO9+V)

201 Painter Quote Status: just got real.

Posted by: Crossing the Memes at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (oVJmc)

202 we are pulling Patriot missile batteries out of Turkey.

Cowardice in the face of the enemy or Let's redo Cuba sideways.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (DL2i+)

203 If this is true, I'm hitting gallery furniture tomorrow, as oil prices will be looking up!

Posted by: anon a mouse at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (aeRWb)

204 Amazing how much safer we were from getting into WWIII when we had a "dumb cowboy" as President.

Posted by: Coolio at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (bDoV9)

205 Given how helpful Turkey was in Iraq, I'd put that "NATO ally" in air quotes.

Posted by: Methos at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (ZbV+0)

206 Thank God, Begonia's here with all the answers.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (u5gzz)

207 Shit happens, people die, wars start - worrying about it is pointless.

Party. FTW.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 06:17 PM (OmBeX)

208 Really have to spin it as Syrian.m

Erdogan's party is in trouble, they are really clise to civil war there, and he would be looking for distraction/unifier.

Election is Nov 1st,IIRC

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:18 PM (mcm0N)

209 A buncha years ago I researched whether Turkey was *actually* a member of NATO and came away undecided.

Anyone know exactly?
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (sI4OA)

Turkey and Greece both joined NATO in 1952.

Posted by: An Inanimate Carbon Rod at October 09, 2015 06:18 PM (FohCt)

210 NATO means nothing to Barky.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:18 PM (u49WF)

211 192
Then again, it's a sign even Turk equipment can down Vlad's migs.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (oVJmc)

It's our equipment and my bet is they were old MIGs

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:19 PM (jJRIy)

212 In other news:

#CardinalsDevilMagic

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:19 PM (kqGWM)

213 Well, I, for one, am making plans to hijack the fritolay truck on it's way to make a delivery at WalMart.

I'm not going through a world war without my cheetos, doritos, and dip.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 06:19 PM (7shwm)

214 They may be a probationary member, excluded from article 5.

Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 09, 2015 06:19 PM (OmBeX)

215 Re: turkeys

They absolutely can and do fly. They sleep in trees for godssake.

They're just ungainly and shitty at it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:20 PM (AkOaV)

216 190 The citizens of Brattleboro (Gay, Lesbian, and others) call on Presdent Oblamama to do something about this and apologize for what Bush has done to create this mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 09, 2015 05:58 PM (EIFYf)
_____

I must say that I generally dont see the humor in these antics, but especially not when we are facing such a dire situation.
Posted by: Begonia at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (ed6PS)

- - -

You're reading the comments on the wrong blog then.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 09, 2015 06:20 PM (9VLhN)

217 not going through a world war without my cheetos, doritos, and dip
Better get there before Jharles Chosnon sends his crew out to intercept it

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:21 PM (tlqam)

218 Well, I, for one, am making plans to hijack the fritolay truck on it's way to make a delivery at WalMart.

I'm not going through a world war without my cheetos, doritos, and dip.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 06:19 PM (7shwm)

Fuck that. Twinkies, man! Nut up or shut up!

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 09, 2015 06:21 PM (JO9+V)

219 Plus Erdogan jailed his top AF officers.

And mostly AF --accused them of a coup attempt which the liberal media gave their tacit support to Erdogan even though there was slim evidence.

Now of course Erdogan is going after the Turkish media--funny how that happens.

There has been a significant clamp down on them since the elections were called.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:21 PM (mcm0N)

220 "Not much of an air force if their planes can be shot down by a turkey.....those fuckers can't even fly"

Yaaaah, but a turkey can go right through a jet's canopy and shatter it if you don't thaw it out first.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:21 PM (iIzG7)

221 NATO troops have entered Turkey and have applied for refugee status.

Posted by: eman at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (mR7Es)

222
Posted by: Begonia at October 09, 2015 06:15 PM (ed6PS)

You're so unhip it's a wonder your bum doesn't fall off.

Posted by: Z. Beeblebrox at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (oVJmc)

223 "Anyone know exactly?"

Turkey is a full NATO member. They weren't one of the original states to create it in '49 but they and Greece joined in '52.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (LA7Cm)

224 Time to throw out the theory I've been pushing here for years. This is about control of middle east oil and gas and which route it will take.

There have been competing pipeline proposals that break down along Sunni/Shia lines for the most part for years. One route, was Qatar, Saudi, Iraq, Syria and then to Turkey. This is the Sunni pipeline. The other was Iran, Iraq, Syria and then by ship or through a proposed pipeline to Greece.

Russia is on team Shia. We used to be with the Sunnis. Seems more likely and less like a conspiracy theory everyday.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (/tuJf)

225 Wow. That was a *really* deep well.

Posted by: 12th Imam at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (sI4OA)

226 NEWSFLASH: Lindsey Graham is standing on a beach in North Carolina, firing a rifle in a generally eastward direction and shouting insults into the wind.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (3myMJ)

227 So, Royals triple because error.

Sigh.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (tlqam)

228 7th inning stretch time. Tied at 4 - 4.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (JO9+V)

229 226
NEWSFLASH: Lindsey Graham is standing on a beach in North Carolina,
firing a rifle in a generally eastward direction and shouting insults
into the wind.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (3myMJ)

Why the hell would a SC Senator go to NC to shoot a rife?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (jJRIy)

230 I wonder if Walmart still fills prescriptions if there's a world war.
My doctor only gives me a one month supply at a time. This could prove
problematic.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (dFi94)

231 Turkey is really *close* to civil war.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (mcm0N)

232 Honest question, will there ever be a political price for Obama's foreign policy failures?

It absolutely destroyed Jimmy Carter and the Democrat Party was in the wilderness for a while, but my fear is this country just keeps navel gazing until it's too late.

Posted by: Coolio at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (bDoV9)

233 Wow. I heard hundreds had protested on the radio, not 8,000. I hope the JEF's ego was hurt.

Posted by: Carol at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (sj3Ax)

234 Doesn't the NATO Treaty kinda demand NATO defend Turkey?

Posted by: eman at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (mR7Es)

235 Wasn't the Turkish PM slammed in the last election a few months ago as his party lost big and has to form a coalition with other groups? Plus the Kurdish Party made huge gains.

Ah Turkey. Not that JEF would ever come to your aid... but do you remember the time in 2003 you wouldn't let the 4th ID into your country for a nothern invasion into Iraq? We do. Good luck keeping Ivan out.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (Z2k+c)

236 Why don't we just surrender and get it over with.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:00 PM (/tuJf)
===========================

Why would he do that? Why would he do that?
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:02 PM (dFi94)
So, looks like a preplanned move. Of course, you'd think someone would have revised that plan given the current sitrep.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 06:09 PM (kdS6q)

Preplanned...as if he's been on The Other Side for a very, very long time..

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (oQQwD)

237 Didnt Newt jump on the AGW scam a few years ago?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 09, 2015 06:24 PM (iQIUe)

238 It would appear that the overcharge... ummm... reset button is still not working.

Posted by: Damiano at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (XItbt)

239 215 Re: turkeys

They absolutely can and do fly. They sleep in trees for godssake.

They're just ungainly and shitty at it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes
****************************************

I remember the town of Yellville Arkansas, use to take a bunch of turkeys up in a plane, toss them out over the town and kids would try to catch 'em....yea, they flew when tossed out of a plane

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (uJK1E)

240 No ones going to war over Turkey.

Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (q177U)

241 Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:22 PM (/tuJf)
=======================

Your post raises some interesting points.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (dFi94)

242 thank god bush isn't president. his h8 would only make things worse. we're so lucky to have barack obama in charge during these crises.

he was the only conservative option, really. and i would know since i'm conservative.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (7Kbxu)

243 Obamas first phone call to a foreign leader was Turkish pres

Posted by: Yo! at October 09, 2015 06:26 PM (GwIKd)

244 According to NATO's website, Turkey is a member.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:26 PM (u49WF)

245 You have nothing to fear from a Barack Obama Whitehouse.

Posted by: John McCain at October 09, 2015 06:26 PM (1DH1V)

246
"Missiles landing in Iran by "mistake", Turkey shooting down Vlad's jet, don't worry, everything is under control."
ALL IS WELL!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 09, 2015 06:26 PM (m3iiU)

247 Would this be a bad time to remind everybody that all of our land based ICBMs are single warheads? No more MIRVs, no more MARVs. Kind of went under the radar with all the homo and BLM doings that SCOAMT finished that program about a ryear ago.

Sleep well.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at October 09, 2015 06:26 PM (f+6Pd)

248 Anyone think Hillary will be asked about the success of her reset button at the debate?

Posted by: Damiano at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (XItbt)

249 " Turkey is really *close* to civil war."

Not just that. They also have troops stationed in the refugee camps to launch an attack on the Kurds.

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (GZ6Pf)

250 *checks calendar*

The Guns of August are late.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (GFzi9)

251 Why the hell would a SC Senator go to NC to shoot a rife?
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:23 PM (jJRIy)

Closer to Turkey?

Why the hell did I type North when I mean South?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (3myMJ)

252 The other was Iran, Iraq, Syria and then by ship or through a proposed pipeline to Greece.

Russia is on team Shia.

===============================

So the Iran, Iraq, Syria route towards Greece would be what Russia might be aiming for?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (dFi94)

253 a mom is trying to be all healthy and feeds the kids turkey ham, turkey bacon, turkey burger...etc....so thanksgiving comes around and the kid says...mom, are we having real turkey? or turkey turkey?

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (uJK1E)

254 Why the hell did I type North when I mean South?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:27 PM (3myMJ)

Alcohol?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (jJRIy)

255 " Doesn't the NATO Treaty kinda demand NATO defend Turkey? "

If called upon and allowed to enter by Turkey, yeah.

If Turkey should do that and nobody shows up, well, treaty kinda goes boom.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (LA7Cm)

256 Honest question, will there ever be a political price for Obama's foreign policy failures?

It absolutely destroyed Jimmy Carter and the Democrat Party was in the wilderness for a while, but my fear is this country just keeps navel gazing until it's too late.
Posted by: Coolio

The US went back into holiday-from-history mode about 2005.

And, unforts, it's going to take something a lot bigger than 9/11 for that to change anytime soon.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (JmGFJ)

257 Testes Obamis just shrank. Even more.

Posted by: Caliban at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (3GFMN)

258 240 No ones going to war over Turkey.
Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (q177U)

What is the Imbecile going to do if Russia hits Turkey in retaliation and just by "chance" Putin lobs a few at Incirlik? Tell Putin he's sorry someone put an American AFB in Turkey. I don't think the Pentagon would like that

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (RLdcX)

259 NATO would have grounds to weasel out if Turkey provoked it if I remember the wording of the charter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (GFzi9)

260 Mr. Putin, tear down... uh, something. Please.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama crackles with Atomic Resonance at October 09, 2015 06:28 PM (qjyQp)

261 Royals lead now 5 - 4. One on, no outs

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:29 PM (JO9+V)

262 >>Why the hell would a SC Senator go to NC to shoot a rife?
Posted by: Nip Sip

Force Projection

Posted by: Aviator at October 09, 2015 06:29 PM (c7vUv)

263 181 unfortunately Target supports homosexuality and the transgender freak show, so they will never see a dime of my money, ever.

Posted by: Blano at October 09, 2015 06:29 PM (LbDXZ)

264 Only reference I can find right now is a Syrian Mig shot down over Turkey in March 2014.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 09, 2015 06:29 PM (9iR5/)

265 Mary vs. Begonia?
The voices in someone's head are starting to type...

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (bA+CL)

266 "Alcohol?"

Don't mind if I do, thanks!

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (3myMJ)

267 Blano-I use AdBlock app on my iPad both Ghostery AdBlock Extensions on my Mac I have used both on my old Windows laptop. I have no ads on any except if I use iPhone it's not using WiFi network I'm familiar with.It walks you through it if you use another WiFi network.

They are both free.

Posted by: Carol at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (sj3Ax)

268 Why the hell did I type North when I mean South?

One of them new-fangled Yankee keyboards?

Posted by: dartist at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (kDYa9)

269 The ottoman empire is one of our favorites!

Posted by: Hillary!s feet at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (wAQA5)

270 Flexibility, FTW!

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (1DH1V)

271 >>Your post raises some interesting points.

Heh. Ace asked me to write it up as a post years ago but it ended up looking like War and Peace. Brevity is not my strong suit so I ended up passing.

But the pipeline proposals are very real and in 2011 Iran, Iraq and Syria signed an agreement to move forward with a pipeline. All they needed was funding (Russia) and an end to the war in Syria with Assad still in power (See Russia again).

Putin knows that energy is power. He's been playing Master Blast with Europe for some time now. This would just give him even more of a stranglehold.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (/tuJf)

272 The scary part is that Putin could do almost anything without prompting a response from Obama. I'm including a land invasion in this list.

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2015 06:31 PM (GZ6Pf)

273 Beginning to believe the ewok has tweet had.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:31 PM (jJRIy)

274 Hasn't it been crap like that that started the last 2 world wars?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

275 "Ottoman Empire" sounds like a name for a discount furniture distributor. Right next door to Carpeteria, and across the street from the Rent-A-Wreck.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:32 PM (iIzG7)

276 274
Hasn't it been crap like that that started the last 2 world wars?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

WWI, but remember Hitler invaded Poland. That's not exactly the same as shooting down a plane

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:33 PM (jJRIy)

277 Lauren didn't know that.

Erdogan conducted an anti-Kurd rally in France--just last week.

12,000 showed up.

I'm still thinking odds are it's a Syrian MIG.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:33 PM (mcm0N)

278 Also Mary Clogginstein is very funny tonight. Thanks Mary!

Posted by: Caliban at October 09, 2015 06:33 PM (3GFMN)

279 273 Beginning to believe the ewok has tweet had.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:31 PM (jJRIy)

yeah if it hasnt been confirmed by now, it didnt happen.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:33 PM (AkOaV)

280 Obama: "what would you do".

not back myself into a corner.

Posted by: redenzo at October 09, 2015 06:33 PM (WCnJW)

281
Why the hell would a SC Senator go to NC?
Posted by: Nip Sip

Force Projection
Posted by: Aviator

"Bear Week" in Raleigh.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (kdS6q)

282 157 A buncha years ago I researched whether Turkey was *actually* a member of NATO and came away undecided.
Anyone know exactly?
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 09, 2015 06:11 PM (sI4OA)

We'll get back to you next Monday.

Posted by: NATO at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (0NdlF)

283 Ground wars are expensive.

Putin is in Clinton mode. At the moment.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (rjtGa)

284 Blano,

Please see 267!!!

Posted by: Carol at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (sj3Ax)

285 "Hasn't it been crap like that that started the last 2 world wars?"

Pretty much. Anarchist bagging a noble in Sarajevo, and a faked invasion from Poland.

Doesn't Putin know the danger of getting involved in a land war in Asia?

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (iIzG7)

286 Turkey is part of NATO but not part of the EU.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:34 PM (GFzi9)

287 Two innings left Royals up one.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:35 PM (rjtGa)

288 A: That wasn't a shoot-down, the plane ran out of gas, had a flat tire and the dog ate it's homework.

B: The bombing begins in 5 minutes.

Choose A or B.

Posted by: Vlad the Impalerist at October 09, 2015 06:35 PM (3myMJ)

289 While Europe is being invaded by a zillion muzzies, Europe should come to the defense of a muzzie country, move the few troops they have out of country ?

If Turkey was still "secular", maybe.

Now ? NFW

Posted by: seamrog at October 09, 2015 06:35 PM (6k+uo)

290 Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:30 PM (/tuJf)

=============================

I would really like to see what you had worked on for a post. Maybe you could brush it off, and see if Ace is interested in putting it up. I'm serious - I'd really like to better understand what might be going on here. Other than Prez Flouncy Bits is a moron. We all know that. What I'd like to know is what the other side might be thinking.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:35 PM (dFi94)

291 Come, Reggie! Let us make more steam. You there, young Sener, loofah my lower back, - there's a good lad!

Posted by: Barry of the Turkish Bathhouse at October 09, 2015 06:35 PM (3tjn4)

292 I pleading with you JoBu, wake up the Astros bats!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (JO9+V)

293 "NATO can move troops to Turkey easily via their high speed trains."

HSR doesn't work for heavy cargoes. European freight rail isn't much faster than American freight rail.

"I'm
not sure how much good ground troops can do to protect against aerial
bombardment unless their purpose is to be bomb catchers."

Depends upon which ground troops.

The Russian ground troops in Syria have extremely capable triple-digit SAM systems as an organic part of their units' tables of organization and equipment. They can do quite a lot to protect against aerial bombardment, aerial surveillance, aerial resupply, or anything else involving flying hardware.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (noWW6)

294 >>So the Iran, Iraq, Syria route towards Greece would be what Russia might be aiming for?

Yes ma'am. I don't think it's a surprise that Putin is saving Assad in Syria and partnering with the Mullahs in Tehran. In WWII, Iran became a focal point for the Allies and Germany because of the need for oil. It's never really changed and countries continue to jockey for position. Iran has been positioning with Iran ever since the overthrow of the Shah.

And he sure as hell isn't operating out of a position of weakness with no strategy. A Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan as the saying goes.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

295 Begonia's one of these "serious" commenters.

Not like the rest of us "unserious" ones.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (Xo1Rt)

296
No ones going to war over Turkey.
Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2015 06:25 PM (q177U)
..........................

I don't know. Sometimes we run out of stuffing and mashed potatoes.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (wAQA5)

297 My prediction: expect the SCOAMF to find somewhere new to sleep at night, so he can avoid any unwanted phone calls at 3:00 AM.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:37 PM (iIzG7)

298 I am not believing my lying eyes. NY Slime has a picture of OR protesters with big sign, Obama Go Home

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:37 PM (jJRIy)

299 Gentlemen, may I present Your Better:

@cnnbrk 11m
John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it." http://cnn.it/1LE6vTG

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2015 06:37 PM (JmGFJ)

300 Who needs chicken and waffles when you can shove a bunch of turkey and stuffing into a waffle maker and call it day?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:38 PM (kqGWM)

301 I'd go to war over stuffing.

Especially with some gravy on it.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:38 PM (rjtGa)

302 Meh. He's a Warsaw Pact guy anyway. Wait - maybe this is that 3D Chess being implemented to tear NATO asunder.

Posted by: West Town at October 09, 2015 06:38 PM (RAJ6M)

303 Turkey vs Russian Fighter Jet and Turkey wins.

Wow.

Posted by: Dang at October 09, 2015 06:38 PM (2oWD2)

304 "John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it."

I guess it's John Kasich that wants to push the old woman in a wheelchair off a cliff. But she'll get over it.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:39 PM (iIzG7)

305
Oh sure the Cubs finally make the play-offs and World War 3 breaks out. I can't catch a break. CAN NOT catch a break.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:39 PM (dFi94)

306 O/T kind of. But if we're going to have WWIII, I hope to we have an I-70 World Series and the Cardinal's win before it starts. Cards/Cubs getting ready to start.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 09, 2015 06:39 PM (LyzbV)

307 "John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it."

Just what the people worried about SS cuts like to hear.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 09, 2015 06:40 PM (LA7Cm)

308 I'm talking about the friction between a power and a minor satellite being used as excuse for the big guys to go at it.

Let's face it, there's a lot of people all over the world that have been aching to go to war. Some of them in the US Senate.

Not that I'm averse to that if it becomes necessary but not to walk into one as if your sleepwalking.

I'd like to think we'd wind up in one on purpose.

But with Amateur poseur in the WH, what can I really expect?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:40 PM (Xo1Rt)

309 John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it.

So, to be clear, handing out goodies to indolent foreigners = Christian duty

Kicking American seniors into the streets = meh.

Posted by: Methos at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (ZbV+0)

310 >>The scary part is that Putin could do almost anything without prompting a response from Obama. I'm including a land invasion in this list.

Wasn't Putin having his fighter planes enter US airspace over Alaska while Obama was there ding his Global Warming - Bear Grylls clown show?

Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (NOIQH)

311 This is why we need a STRONG DEMOCRATIC WOMAN in the White House!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Blutwurst Vt at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (qSIlh)

312 If Putin were as evil as some believe, he and Turkey would be BFFs. The fact that they are NOT tells us something good about Putin.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (xetep)

313 Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

Jack, don't forget the Russians were sidling up to the Greeks during the second-to-last debt show down.

Putin, IIRC, offered some kind of "sell your soul and we'll help you" deal.

Just a thought.

But OTOH, the "shia pipeline" (I like that term) has been a pipe dream for... I mean since the '90s at least.

Remember, the 9/11 truthers have been claiming that cheney wanted to invade Afghanistan so that he could give Enron and Halliburton pipeline through the hindu kush to emerging-nation-india as part of their larger pipeline plan for the middle east / central asia since, well, 9/11

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (AkOaV)

314 Posted by: olddog in mo at October 09, 2015 06:39 PM (LyzbV)

====================

Great minds, and all, olddog. Just now starting on TBS. Brian Anderson broadcasting the game for all you Brewers fans.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (dFi94)

315 Oh sure the Cubs finally make the play-offs and World War 3 breaks out. I can't catch a break. CAN NOT catch a break.

Sorry. Moose out front shoulda told you.

That's what you get for farting around for 100 years.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (rjtGa)

316 >>John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it

There's that grand Christian charity he's been talking about!!

Must check to see if that's in the "old" part or the "new" part.

Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (NOIQH)

317 >>I would really like to see what you had worked on for a post. Maybe you could brush it off, and see if Ace is interested in putting it up. I'm serious - I'd really like to better understand what might be going on here. Other than Prez Flouncy Bits is a moron. We all know that. What I'd like to know is what the other side might be thinking.

Well thanks. I trashed what I had written but I will see if I can find some links to some articles that might help make some sense out of it for you.

One thing I've always given the left credit for is understanding that our interest in the middle east is largely about oil. Well no kidding. So is Russia's interest. So is China's. There are so hard truths behind geopolitical moves and at the end of the day energy is required to power modern economies.

The left loves to bleat about no blood for oil but shut of their access to it and modern man and modern woman for that matter wouldn't last a day.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (/tuJf)

318 "Kicking American seniors into the streets = meh."

Fred Thompson is going to have to sell retirees a lot of reverse mortgages, so they can buy something better than cat food for dinner.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (iIzG7)

319 Note Obama flew in to Eugene OR, a college town, then went to Roseberg.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (jJRIy)

320 305: yeah, made me laugh.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Blutwurst Vt at October 09, 2015 06:42 PM (qSIlh)

321 Was it a Turkish air defense unit, or an American one defending US operations in Turkey? If it was an American unit, then obviously, Obama had to give the order even if it was a vague 'do what you have to do' type order that he is so proficient. . .

we have confirmed this shoot down really happened?

Hell, who cares, this is too much fun.

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 06:43 PM (7shwm)

322 "Turkey vs Russian Fighter Jet and Turkey wins."

Turkey has a very nice fleet of mid-late model F-16s. A few old F-4s still to.

But, I think the report was that this was anti-aircraft ground defense.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 09, 2015 06:43 PM (LA7Cm)

323 Wasn't Putin having his fighter planes enter US airspace over Alaska while Obama was there ding his Global Warming - Bear Grylls clown show?

Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (NOIQH)

well, to be fair, I think they were in international airspace in our EEZ and not our 12-nm air space.

but yes, Russian "bears" have been flirting with US borders a lot recently. Around Alaska, Hawaii, and California.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 09, 2015 06:43 PM (AkOaV)

324 Kasich is a dick!

Posted by: Carol at October 09, 2015 06:43 PM (sj3Ax)

325 What good is owning the Black Sea without controlling Istanbul?

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (3tjn4)

326 Turkey is situated between two historic tinder boxes and then it is about access to air space and naval space.

If you cancel land based missile defense systems in favor of Aegis then you need to get closer to certain things.

Add to that the global economy and dependencies.

Turkey is about--location,location, location.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (mcm0N)

327 "Note Obama flew in to Eugene OR, a college town, then went to Roseberg."

Roseberg probably sounded too Jewish to him to fly there directly.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (iIzG7)

328 @85 Chris Balsz

"Bet the Turks grab the nukes we have deployed at Inalcik."

Very few people know about those. I only know becaue one of my platoon homies did a tour there in 88'.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (Z2k+c)

329 that's okay john. I'm fully prepared to start mugging people in the streets if I get starved and thrown out of my house.

You'll get over it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (Xo1Rt)

330 Wait Bear Grylls did an Obama thing?

Fuck that spider eating douche.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (rjtGa)

331 Blano,Please read 267!!!

Posted by: Carol at October 09, 2015 06:44 PM (sj3Ax)

332 Nothing like putting us dawgs up on a nice ottoman after a rough day out on the campaign trail. Ar-Ar-awoooo!

Posted by: Hillary!s feet at October 09, 2015 06:45 PM (wAQA5)

333 Thank you Carol!

Posted by: Blano at October 09, 2015 06:45 PM (LbDXZ)

334 312 If Putin were as evil as some believe, he and Turkey would be BFFs. The fact that they are NOT tells us something good about Putin.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (xetep)

- - - -

Yeah, no.

They're both thuggish despots interested in keeping power and expanding their influence. Putin has allied himself with the worst of the worst.

North Korea, Syria, Iran etc.

He's evil embodied.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 09, 2015 06:45 PM (9VLhN)

335 Well thanks. I trashed what I had written but I will see if I can find
some links to some articles that might help make some sense out of it
for you.

One thing I've always given the left credit for is understanding
that our interest in the middle east is largely about oil. Well no
kidding. So is Russia's interest. So is China's. There are so hard
truths behind geopolitical moves and at the end of the day energy is
required to power modern economies.
=======================

Ya, if you posted some links I would appreciate it. I'd be very interested in that. No pressure. No time constraints. Whenever you feel like digging them out.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:45 PM (dFi94)

336 Please pass me the five pound dumbbells so that I may scare Putin with my workout awesomeness.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar of Fecal Touch at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (f+6Pd)

337 We're on the eve of destruction.

Posted by: Barry McGuire at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (Ui7Rt)

338 well, if there's a nucular war, it'll will be because of what Bush did. Even our current Giant Man of a President might not be able to clean up all the mess that Bush left behind!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Blutwurst Vt at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (qSIlh)

339 So, to be clear, handing out goodies to indolent foreigners = Christian duty

Kicking American seniors into the streets = meh.

Posted by: Methos at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (ZbV+0)

You know, like Germany kicking residents out of their apartments to make space for refugees.

Or, as we know it, reason number 2,134 why we don't want to be like Europe.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (bLnSU)

340 Well that escalated quickly!

Posted by: R Burgundy, SD Cali at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (i9uqJ)

341
John Kasich tells audience member concerned about Social Security cuts "you'd get over it. Kicking American seniors into the streets = meh.
Posted by: Methos

Where they'll be easy prey for the evil robots. Unless.....

Posted by: Rudy Giuliani - for Old Glory Robot Insurance

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (kdS6q)

342 The Modern Man sleeps on the ~~burglar~~ nuclear war side of the bed.

Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (sI4OA)

343 Yes, TV-loving Obama did the bear Grylls show.
Puke.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/31/
obama-to-join-bear-grylls-in-alaska-episode-of-nbc/

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2015 06:47 PM (NOIQH)

344 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 09, 2015 06:37 PM (jJRIy)

That's good but did they say "200 people showed up"? I'm finding the usual spin on this. Leftist sites are saying 100 or 200 hundred showed up. Conservative sites reporting more.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 06:47 PM (GERXL)

345 I hate when I hear the clanking of chains from the 1912-1914 Balkans mixed in with the chatter of MG-34s in Sept 1939.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:47 PM (GFzi9)

346
Wait Bear Grylls did an Obama thing?

Fuck that spider eating douche.
Posted by: eleven
............................

Guy does the dumbest shit I've ever seen, and it's all staged.
Last night he jumped in frozen lake and swam under the ice. Dumbass almost died.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2015 06:47 PM (wAQA5)

347 Yes ace is right. The problem is that even if putin doesn't want to screw with us, the sissy bitch is such a mincing proof that it's tempting to pants him. Just because he's such a hysterical squish.

Posted by: simplemind at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (BTnAK)

348 I feel a strongly worded tweet coming any time now

Posted by: Clarney at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (lUxBn)

349 "Rumblings: Turkey Has Shot Down a Russian Jet Violating Its Airspace"

Well that's just great. Now I might have to miss watching a preseason Bulls game.

Posted by: SCoaMF at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (1CroS)

350 If Putin were as evil as some believe, he and Turkey would be BFFs. The fact that they are NOT tells us something good about Putin.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 09, 2015 06:41 PM (xetep)

He's a *gigantic* liar, *literal* mobster, and an *actual* murderer.

What's not to like?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (bLnSU)

351 Oh sure the Cubs finally make the play-offs and World War 3 breaks out. I can't catch a break. CAN NOT catch a break.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 06:39 PM

Heh. Shite happens. Oh, and GO CARDS!

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (LyzbV)

352 "Wasn't Putin having his fighter planes enter US airspace over Alaska
while Obama was there ding his Global Warming - Bear Grylls clown show?"

Funny you should mention a Bear.

When the Russians probe into Alaskan airspace, they almost always do so via a brace of Tu-95 Bears. The Bear being a Soviet-era intercontinental strategic bomber, i.e., a nuclear weapon delivery platform.

One Tu-95 can lug enough cruise missile warheads far enough from home that if it got to optimal firing position, it could lay waste to every major population center on the U.S. west coast.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 06:48 PM (noWW6)

353 A White House insider reports that the Administration just receive a telegram from Moscow:

THE BEAR IS LOOSE STOP I HAVE COPYRIGHT ON THAT STOP IS MY GIG STOP I WILL SHOW YOU BEAR BEING LOOSE STOP WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT STOP REGARDS VLAD STOP

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (iIzG7)

354 The Modern Man sleeps in the wet spot. And doesn't complain.

Or else.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (Xo1Rt)

355 Have you looked at the price of cat food lately?

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (u49WF)

356 PJ media says Holland is doing the same thing and in one town at least they're having protests, with some stalwart Dutch grandmother throwing herself in front of the police or something.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (GERXL)

357 In Obama's mind NATO is a White European power alliance(US is an extension of White Europe).

Obama hates all things White European.

Obama would love to see NATO disintegrate.

Obama ain't gonna do shit to help a NATO ally.

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (Mz/Zg)

358 >>One Tu-95 can lug enough cruise missile warheads far enough from home that if it got to optimal firing position, it could lay waste to every major population center on the U.S. west coast.

Yikes!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2015 06:50 PM (NOIQH)

359 the sissy bitch is such a mincing proof that it's tempting to pants him. Just because he's such a hysterical squish.
Posted by: simplemind

Yup. And knowing that the weeping Boner and Reid's bitch are still leading the legislature it's just so easy.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2015 06:50 PM (0O2Lr)

360 >>But OTOH, the "shia pipeline" (I like that term) has been a pipe dream for... I mean since the '90s at least.

It has been. But as I said an actual deal was signed in the summer of 2011 to actually build it.

http://tinyurl.com/prwqqq7

So what was needed to make it a reality?

End of Iranian sanctions. Check

Assad remaining in power in Syria. More likely by the minute.

Funding from a major player. Check plus Russia.

We shall see over the upcoming months and years what happens but I do not believe Russia is acting without a plan in the middle east and Putin's entire economy is built on supplying energy. He also knows the power of embargoing that energy.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2015 06:50 PM (/tuJf)

361 354 The Modern Man sleeps in the wet spot. And doesn't complain.

Or else.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM (Xo1Rt)

Well if he sleeps on his back of course he's going to wind up sleeping on the wet spot.

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2015 06:50 PM (z/Ubi)

362 Be kind of nice about now to have some kind of anti missile system. Wouldn't it?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:50 PM (Xo1Rt)

363 >>> 354 The Modern Man sleeps in the wet spot. And doesn't complain.

Or else.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:49 PM

=============

That's because the woman's always on top.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (u49WF)

364 Tu-95/Tu-114. Four Cuisinarts flying in formation.

Boeing almost built the YB-52 with turboprops. The Soviets did.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (GFzi9)

365 >>THE BEAR IS LOOSE STOP I HAVE COPYRIGHT ON THAT STOP IS MY GIG STOP I WILL SHOW YOU BEAR BEING LOOSE STOP WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT STOP REGARDS VLAD STOP

Uhhhhh....Can I use "The Teddy Bear is loose?" PrettypleaseI'llBeYourBestFriend?!!!

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (NOIQH)

366
The Modern Man sleeps on the burglar (S)nuclear war side of the bed(/s) wet spot. Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 06:46 PM (sI4OA)

Posted by: this is a test at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (wAQA5)

367 Uncle Jed: "$50 says NATO backs away from Turkey, leading to the collapse of NATO."

Yeah, I wouldn't take that bet either. When push comes to shove, NATO means US. And everyone has SCoaMF pegged: He isn't doing squat but undermining any American interest that can be undermined.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (1CroS)

368 #Iamnotasissybitchsothere

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (/Vs1e)

369 the bear is loose.

the puss has shit his pants.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

370 It's PJ Tatler on the situation in part of Holland:

http://tinyurl.com/pdqvu2a

Another reason why it's a good idea to have weapons What can the citizens do if the government is showing this down their throats?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (GERXL)

371 heh..."the bear is loose"

What a fag.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (rjtGa)

372 Putin builds the "Shia Wall". Obama watches with strategic patience.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (u49WF)

373 Posted by: this is a test at October 09, 2015 06:51 PM (wAQA5)

Test status: FAIL

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:53 PM (Xo1Rt)

374 "the bear is loose"

Uh, oh.

Posted by: the rabbit at October 09, 2015 06:53 PM (tlqam)

375 I'm taking bets on whether the SCOAMF makes a trip to Turkey to tell them why they need gun control. I'm currently taking at eight-to-five.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:53 PM (iIzG7)

376 RAMEN $10

(Too soon?)

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 09, 2015 06:54 PM (u5gzz)

377 My friends of the world, you have nothing to worry about with Barak Heussein Obama as president.

Posted by: John McCain, Card Carring Maverick at October 09, 2015 06:54 PM (f+6Pd)

378 >>Putin builds the "Shia Wall". Obama watches with strategic patience.

Heh. I was thinking more along the lines of "just muscular enough to not be mocked."

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at October 09, 2015 06:54 PM (NOIQH)

379 NATO collapsing would serve President Cloward Piven's purpose.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 06:54 PM (u49WF)

380 I think I best go back to writing. The world is going to the Elysian Fields in a burning hand basket. The PRC is getting into the fighter export market, they want to sell their J-31 fighters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:54 PM (GFzi9)

381 #realmendon'thurtpeople

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 06:55 PM (/Vs1e)

382 During the 80s the Greeks and Turks in NATO were not getting along too well due to Aegean Sea rights. While in a Special Weapons Cell (every NATO AFSOUTH country represented) during an exercise a US Navy Lt Commander turned to the Greek officer and asked him if his country had owned the coast of Turkey at some point in their history. Watching the Turk and Greek officer go around and around about who really owned what in the Mediterranean was a hoot.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 09, 2015 06:55 PM (22uju)

383 Well, looks like we'll finally get a chance to see if a nuclear is survivable.

I been wondering for about 60 years or so

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:55 PM (Xo1Rt)

384 #Putinisnotasevolvedasme

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 06:55 PM (/Vs1e)

385 Barack Pisstain Obama

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:56 PM (Xo1Rt)

386 Card's score. Woo-Hoo.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 09, 2015 06:56 PM (LyzbV)

387 Well he--Putin--is also putting the squeeze on Belarus which is heavily dependent on Russian gas and oil.

Putin is now putting a foward air base in Belarus and there isn't much they can do about it.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at October 09, 2015 06:56 PM (mcm0N)

388 #imtheassholeyourparentswarnedyouabout

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:57 PM (Xo1Rt)

389 I'mleadingoutmybehind

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 06:57 PM (/Vs1e)

390 I don't think there's going to be anything left to kill when SMOD gets here.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 06:57 PM (iIzG7)

391 Sorry, Cubs fans. Maybe next year.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 09, 2015 06:57 PM (kqGWM)

392 is it 1975 again?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (0irYe)

393 So which Moron bought the TU-95 from the Ukraine?

http://theaviationist.com/2014/03/06/tu-95-bear-on-ebay/

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (GFzi9)

394 After the Jug Eared Fuck has back stabbed virtually every single ally of the US, are the Turks really stupid enough to think Obama will back them up?

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (Mz/Zg)

395 Or former allies would be foolish to depend on any assurances from UltraRome. We're already paying off the barbarians crossing our borders back here in the Western Empire. They would do better to make a deal with Eastern Emperor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (rwI+c)

396 or Our

either or

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (rwI+c)

397 Posted by: redc1c4 at October 09, 2015 06:58 PM (0irYe)

worse. try 1962

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (Xo1Rt)

398 Mr. Putin, I'm drawing the Red Line at the fence of the White House. You shall not pass!

Posted by: SCoaMF at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (1CroS)

399 I'mleadingoutmybehind

I read that as bleeding, and nodded.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (rwI+c)

400 Still 4-5 to the Royals

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (tlqam)

401 Whoops... Tu-142 was the later variant. What I get from trying to go from memory on Soviet equipment.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (GFzi9)

402 Now make me a sandwich.

Posted by: Vlad in your face at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (u49WF)

403 Three outs left for the Stros.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (rjtGa)

404 or 1949

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (Xo1Rt)

405 "Mr. Putin, I'm drawing the Red Line at the fence of the White House."

At least the White House HAS a fence. Unlike our border with Mehico.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (iIzG7)

406 I'mleadingoutmybehind

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 06:57 PM (/Vs1e)
======================

hahahaha still laughing

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (dFi94)

407 Obama lay there like a slug. It was his only defense.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 07:00 PM (JO9+V)

408 Obama just plans to drop that screaming 3rd grader from San Francisco right into Turkey. We've done our part!

Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at October 09, 2015 07:01 PM (pVkEV)

409 NATO collapsing would serve President Cloward Piven's purpose.

NATO has always be a bit of sham to 'keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 09, 2015 07:01 PM (rwI+c)

410 About now he's curled up in the fetal position on the rug in the oval office. Isn't he?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 07:01 PM (Xo1Rt)

411 "Obama lay there like a slug."

And Putin brought the salt.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 07:01 PM (iIzG7)

412 399
I'mleadingoutmybehind

I read that as bleeding, and nodded.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 09, 2015 06:59 PM (rwI+c)

well he is a bear...but taking a running start? unexpected.

Posted by: Obama the Useless at October 09, 2015 07:02 PM (/Vs1e)

413 397: at least there aren't any military targets in the SFV any more...

of course, if they nuke LA, it'll be the Zombie Apocalypse here, so it might not matter, one way or the other.

i wonder if i can get a hand operated vampire pump to draw fuel from the local gas station tanks?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 09, 2015 07:02 PM (0irYe)

414 The Modern Man discretely places the thyroid pills on *her* night stand before retiring to the nuclear side of the bed.

Posted by: Modern Man at October 09, 2015 07:03 PM (sI4OA)

415 I blame Clock Boy.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (22uju)

416 Gee Mr. President, you sure pissed away any moral authority you "may" have had.

Posted by: GBruno at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (u49WF)

417 Allright, fuckit. Bring me my wartime consigliere britches!

Posted by: Val-Jar, She of the Fearsome Visage at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (u5gzz)

418 Stercu stercus omnes mortuis est.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (Xo1Rt)

419 Yo, Lowrie - swing, battah battah

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (tlqam)

420 Drudge : Oregon pot sales strong.

I wonder if there are laws against straw purchasers who intend to resell pot in states where pot is still illegal?

Posted by: Tucco, enjoying his bath at October 09, 2015 07:04 PM (7shwm)

421 "Allright, fuckit. Bring me my wartime consigliere britches!"

I'm guessing that the SCOAMF has already called out for his brown mom jeans.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 07:05 PM (iIzG7)

422 Cubs caught looking like Barry Obama at a Turkish cathouse.

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2015 07:06 PM (3tjn4)

423 Walk.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 07:06 PM (tlqam)

424 If there is a nuclear exchange you will find me face down breathing between Huma's supple thighs.

Posted by: Hillary Felon Clinton at October 09, 2015 07:07 PM (22uju)

425 @352 torquewrench

"When the Russians probe into Alaskan airspace, they almost always do so via a brace of Tu-95 Bears"

When the JEF struts and whines, "the bear is loose"-- it makes sense now.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 09, 2015 07:07 PM (Z2k+c)

426
It's PJ Tatler on the situation in part of Holland:

http://tinyurl.com/pdqvu2a

Another reason why it's a good idea to have weapons What can the citizens do if the government is showing this down their throats?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2015 06:52 PM (GERXL)

One thing that perplexes me about the Netherlands is that you need a government permit to move into an apartment or house in the cities.

Which means every apartment has a waiting list. When you move out or die, the next person on the list gets first dibs, no matter who they are. The landlord has pretty much no say in the matter. The next person on the list could be a gaunt, filthy heroin addict with track marks on his arms and swastikas tattooed on his face, and you can't even THINK about denying him the opportunity to strip all the copper plumbing out of your building, smear feces on the walls and have overdosing miscreants walking in and out of your apartment building.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 09, 2015 07:08 PM (o98Jz)

427 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Campaign_of_World_War_I#1915

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2015 07:08 PM (GFzi9)

428 Look like he was out.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 07:08 PM (tlqam)

429 I wonder if there are laws against straw purchasers who intend to resell pot in states where pot is still illegal?

If a first run movie like 'The Martian' appears online within hours of release, what do you think the odds are that *anybody* is following the rules anymore?

Spoiler alert: Matt Damon is still an ass.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at October 09, 2015 07:09 PM (sI4OA)

430 I wonder what wonder boy Tommy (ex-bus driver now national security official) Vitter thinks of all this. Whoa, that is like two years ago dude.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 09, 2015 07:10 PM (22uju)

431 doh. Astros lose

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 09, 2015 07:10 PM (tlqam)

432 Quickest. Pinch run. Appearance. Evah!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2015 07:11 PM (JO9+V)

433 30 Now what ? Now what will he do ? Whatever he does, he better get it right. Because if he doesn't get it right, we will have turned a corner.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 09, 2015 05:55 PM (dFi94)

There's a first time for everything, but I won't take that bet.

Posted by: rickl at October 09, 2015 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

434 3 game series. Home field to Astros.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 07:12 PM (rjtGa)

435 Buster Posey looks like Brad Ausmus.

Separated at birth?

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2015 07:15 PM (rjtGa)

436 "Now what ? Now what will he do ? Whatever he does, he better get it right. Because if he doesn't get it right, we..."

... will all be dead before anyone notices we've turned a corner.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 07:16 PM (iIzG7)

437 @409 Grump928(C)

"NATO has always be a bit of sham to 'keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down'."

Old joke amonst us stationed in Europe during the Cold War.

"We are NATO! We will fight until the last American!"

It was funny because it was partially true.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 09, 2015 07:16 PM (Z2k+c)

438 I can't tell you all how much I really hope we're not about to have proof positive regarding whether cockroaches really can survive a nuclear war.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 09, 2015 07:20 PM (iIzG7)

439 Uh, you wanna bet we defend Turkey? It's one of the only NATO countries left with a military and it's one of the most-strategically located countries in the world. If Russia goes in, all bets are off.

Posted by: blue at October 09, 2015 07:20 PM (iw3Dl)

440 Just watched Russian TV news.

No mention of a shootdown.

Posted by: Religion Of Peace! at October 09, 2015 07:23 PM (xnAyb)

441 "Four Cuisinarts flying in formation. Boeing almost built the YB-52 with turboprops. The Soviets did."

YUUUUGE turboprops. YUUUUGE _counterrotating_ turboprops. Two full propeller sets on each of the four engines.

The Russians still keep to the Soviet tradition and stage low altitude flyovers of an entire regiment of Bears at their Red Square military parades. The noise must be beyond imagining.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2015 07:26 PM (noWW6)

442 If the Cubs win the pennant will harey carey arise from the dead?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 09, 2015 07:27 PM (Xo1Rt)

443
Don't worry, we've got this under control. Oops.
http://tinyurl.com/phua2lw

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2015 07:27 PM (wAQA5)

444 Annnnnnd Kasich moves Trump up in the polls, but his stock in the mariachi band equipment and uniforms company is looking sweet!

Posted by: Meremortal at October 09, 2015 07:34 PM (3myMJ)

445 Test

Posted by: Japanese Narrator at October 09, 2015 07:43 PM (iX1N1)

446 The real question is should we defend Turkey if they get into a war with Russia? Turkey has become rather Islamist in the last decade. They are the ones who helped the Muslim Brotherhood out in Egypt. The ones who done the most to stand by and allow ISIS to develop. Most important of all they did everything they could to NOT help the US war effort in Iraq.

This has nothing to do with Obama's ineptitude, but we need to ask the question...should we side with a Turkey that is not the same Turkey that was a military secular ruled state when they joined NATO. If we side with Turkey we are helping Islam...make that clear.

What worries me is Obama will blunder us into a war with Russia not because he take resolute action one way or the other, but instead will dither about and talking big and bad, and put enough forces to get us into a war with Russia, but not enough to win it.

For me we need to kick Turkey out of NATO and let Finland join...but that is me.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 09, 2015 07:52 PM (q52Ma)

447 Obama won't defend Turkey. He won't even defend us. I'm convinced, were a terrorist nuke to go off in an American city, Obama/Hillary/Reid/Kerry etc. would flee the country with the nuke codes. They could set up an internationally pleasing mock government in Brussels or someplace and lecture all the raving hordes they left behind in the rubble.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 09, 2015 08:31 PM (ZufZo)

448 "For me we need to kick Turkey out of NATO and let Finland join...but that is me."

Why would Finland join? NATO has no interest in defending them and they would become a target.

In reminds back in the 90's when the only 2 countries not to sign the anti-landmine treaty was Finland and the US (no worries, Obama took care of that). When a Swedish diplomant harngueed the Finnish one, he simply retorted, "for Sweden, Finland is the landmine." Everyone in the room understood the retort.

I have a personal fondness for Finland.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 09, 2015 08:33 PM (Z2k+c)

449 Who is on our side? 600 million screaming Chinamen.

*I thought there were like a billion screaming Chinamen*

There were.

Posted by: Lt. Col. Andy Tanner at October 09, 2015 08:43 PM (amQXf)

450 IMO Putin is trying to crack NATO. When Turkey asks its NATO allies for aid, those allies (led by the US) will diss it.

I'd expected that, eventually, Putin would crack NATO by going after one of the Baltic States. Perhaps Turkey will be the straw that breaks the NATO back.

Posted by: smagar at October 09, 2015 08:49 PM (OTiRm)

451 The Russians want Constantinople and to restore Hagia Sophia to its rightful status as the St. Peters of Orthdox Christianity. Been that way since the Tzars were jealous of the Byzantine Empire.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at October 09, 2015 09:19 PM (A1Dcl)

452 "Meanwhile in Roseburg, Oregon, 8000 protesters show up to tell Barky to go home."
Well, Barky is going to take away the Barkyphones.

Posted by: Sir Barky at October 09, 2015 10:27 PM (V/AWI)

453 Don't be silly, our forces have the real enemy retreating on all fronts (homophobia)

Posted by: Ben H at October 10, 2015 12:26 AM (gJEsZ)

454 ...and NATO has already declared it would defend Turkey in a conflict against Russia.

I wouldn't lift a finger to help. Not after they wouldn't help us during the Iraq invasion.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 10, 2015 02:00 AM (wgrxk)

455 Any guess as to how long it has been since most of our pilots have trained to go up against the Ruskies vice focus on air-ground ops

Posted by: Kevin at October 10, 2015 07:08 AM (B1/UH)

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