The Mask Falls: Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"

They had previously lied about their goals, claiming to be in favor of "sensible gun safety measures" or other rot.

But now they're becoming more honest: a Washington Post editor just explicitly called for a "gun free society.

A Gun Free Society.

By Fred Hiatt
Washington Post Editor

Maybe it's time to start using the words that the NRA has turned into unmentionables.

Prohibition.

Mass buyback.

A gun-free society.

Letís say that one again: A gun-free society.

Doesnít it sound logical? Doesnít it sound safe? Wouldnít it make sense to learn from other developed nations, which believe that only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed -- and which as a result lose far, far fewer innocent people than die every year in the United States?

Yes, even saying these words makes the NRA happy. It fuels the slippery-slope argument the gun lobby uses to oppose even the most modest, common-sense reforms. You see? Background checks today, confiscation tomorrow.

And yes, I understand how difficult it would be. This is a matter of changing the culture and norms of an entire society. It would take time.

Note that he claims that using these words is dangerous, because the NRA would interpret them as a slippery slope argument to claim that the left wants a gun free society.

But that is precisely what Hiatt wants.

He's accusing the NRA of being right, but in an unhelpful way.

Ezra's Folly, I mean Vox, jumps on the idea and pushes it.

Harry Reid claimed to be pro-Second Amendment for his whole career -- but now that he's retiring, there's no more reason to maintain that fiction:


Hillary Clinton is announcing she'll start using extra-constitutional means to declare by executive fiat that the non-existent gun show loophole should no longer exist, and maybe that's what Obama has in mind when he promises more executive action on gun control:

The White House confirmed that President Obama was preparing a series of executive actions on gun control to match his recent passion on the issue after the latest mass shooting in Oregon.

"It's a high priority and will continue to be until we start to see more progress on this issue in this town," White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters today at the press briefing.

Earnest said he would "quibble" with anyone who criticized the president for not voicing any specific gun control proposals during his press conference, asserting that the White House was working behind the scenes for more executive actions on guns.

"I can tell you that they're not stumped, theyíre continuing to review the law thatís on the books and continuing to consult with legal authorities but also others who may have ideas about what steps that can be taken to keep guns out of the hands of criminals," Earnest said.

Glenn Reynolds predicts the Democrats will pay a price for this, and further speculates that Obama is pushing gun control because his foreign and economic policies are in tatters.

Obama would just as soon we didn't talk about any of these debacles. The gun issue may not be a winner for him, but it's an ideologically divided issue where most Democrats will take his side, and itís a hot-button issue that lets him inflame debate just by bringing it up.

These other stories, meanwhile, raise questions about Obamaís presidency that even Democrats are finding hard to ignore. Is it any wonder that Obama would rather talk about guns?

Maybe just more Stray Voltage. But maybe not.


Posted by: Ace at 08:10 PM




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1 Killers will just use hammers.

Posted by: redenzo at October 05, 2015 08:13 PM (WCnJW)

2 boldly.

Posted by: redenzo at October 05, 2015 08:13 PM (WCnJW)

3 Can they forget, this quickly, the mass panic of Boston, sheltering in place, those with no guns?

Or, more current, seeing Europe infested with barbarians, some, per lady in Italy, climbing balconies to rob and cut throats?

No. NO.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 08:14 PM (LJ4iV)

4 Bolder than Starship Enterprise.

Posted by: fluffy at October 05, 2015 08:14 PM (2iV3X)

5 I like my fonts like I like mah wimmen.

BOLD

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2015 08:14 PM (JmGFJ)

6 I like being embolded. Thanks! xoxo to Ace.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 08:14 PM (LJ4iV)

7 They have a Ace in the hole on this, a feckless opposition party.

Posted by: Garbone at October 05, 2015 08:14 PM (9dH/8)

8 Molon labe, assholes.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:15 PM (pCf+a)

9 She put a pair of 38's in my face, then pulled out a gun.

Posted by: An 8th Grader saying what needs to be said. at October 05, 2015 08:15 PM (l3vZN)

10 I still want my effin' unicorn, g-d it!

Posted by: Y-not at October 05, 2015 08:16 PM (0Iy+I)

11 Well, you can't Fundamentally Transform a Nation if the populace is armed. OBEY!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 05, 2015 08:17 PM (6/28d)

12 We will be safe, like in gun free Chicago.

Posted by: fluffy at October 05, 2015 08:17 PM (2iV3X)

13 The one unexpected consequence to this is that every liberal who really just wanted "Sensible gun control law" has been told, "We fcuking lied to the conservatives, and we lied to your dumb asses too".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 08:17 PM (VPLuQ)

14 Well bold me down... ah guh guh guh guh.

Posted by: Popeye at October 05, 2015 08:17 PM (ECrmY)

15 it is time for us to be honest about what would make this country great again, a leftist-free society.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (A9KzJ)

16 Probably why Boehner pushed his out the door date back. One last sloppy blow job for Obama.

Posted by: Aviator at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (c7vUv)

17 Operator: Your call could not be connected. Please don't try again.

Posted by: derit at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (jT+gh)

18 You know who this helps?

Ted Cruz, that's who. Made his bones arguing 2A cases before the Supreme Court.

And the biggest knock against Cruz has been electability -- because the liberals hate and fear him, and because women don't find him attractive.

If these turd-hammers keep pushing gun control, we could elect any-damn-body we want and win 48 states.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (pCf+a)

19 Anyone know the violent crime rate in Vermont?

Posted by: fluffy at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (2iV3X)

20 Free Guns?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:18 PM (69qNa)

21

They really don't understand history, do they?

Posted by: imp at October 05, 2015 08:20 PM (XIXZz)

22 Charles W Cooke called it, drop the charade and take a shot at repelling the 2nd

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2015 08:20 PM (HbCsM)

23
So on the one hand, we should impose the laws of other countries on our own very different country because we should all be the same.
On the other hand we should not be a melting pot but celebrate diversity, real and imagined.
Is that about right?

Posted by: Justamom at October 05, 2015 08:20 PM (sVnbw)

24 Guns for cartels but not citizens. That is this asshole in a nutshell.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 05, 2015 08:20 PM (f7eH8)

25 Surely I'm not the first to say . . .

Molon labe.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (Nj2wY)

26 8,

Hooah.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (zyIlW)

27 Nope, said it at #8.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (pCf+a)

28 The one unexpected consequence to this is that every
liberal who really just wanted "Sensible gun control law" has been
told, "We fcuking lied to the conservatives, and we lied to your dumb
asses too".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 08:17 PM


They already know. These are the same people who winked and nodded when every Democrat came out against gay "marriage," knowing they were lying. They know this is complete bullshit. At least now they're being open about it, and honest people know who the enemy is.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (KrAjA)

29 Cold, dead fingers motherfvckers.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (Wckf4)

30 Good, I'm not.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (Nj2wY)

31 Silver or lead, Dems?

Posted by: Los Zetas at October 05, 2015 08:21 PM (f7eH8)

32 A gun free society? So then, we have a religion free society?



What parts of the Constitution do we also need to prohibit?



How about going back to owning property to vote?



Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (jJRIy)

33 Watch the back door.... this is slight of hand, and battle prep space, for the real attack.

That attack will come through TREATIES. It will have gun control buried in it... because we will have to be able to tell other countries where our guns are at...

And of course, the Surrender monkeys of the GOP have given fast track authority to anything Obama calls a Trade Agreement... even if it has Gun Control, or Environmental Law... impacts.

Note, we have no idea what is in the Trans Pacific Trade Pact ... it has been done in secret... but we DO know it has major impacts on things such as Patent Laws... which are EXPLICTLY controlled by Congress... not jus the Senate through a Ratification process.

The GOPe will give Obama what he wants, so they can later RUN AGAINST IT... just like they did with Obamacare.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (qh617)

34 Bring it, fuckers.

(Molon Labe, American-style)

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (zyIlW)

35 So on the one hand, we should impose the laws of other countries on our own very different country because we should all be the same.

Except for the rest of the world's outright ban on abortion after X weeks (eg, Mexico at 12 weeks). Can't follow international norms there.

Posted by: wooga at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (x9NcI)

36 fcuk those people, & the wapo in particular

g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (KCxzN)

37 were there people with concealed weapons on the oregon campus?

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (Uk9e2)

38 Repeat after me, over and over and over and on multiple sites:

How did the Oregon barbarian shooter get to the school with four handguns and one rifle? How and who? His mama? A "friend?"

Someone, or many, helped this guy...but the MSM is covering something.

Meanwhile, every LIV and Dem politician are going to glom onto this vs Hilz emails.

Come on out, whistle-blower.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 08:22 PM (LJ4iV)

39 Whoa, that's a lotta BOLD you got there!

Republicans do love to quote Reagan's "bold colors/pale pastels", but isn't this taking it a little too far?

To boldly go and all that

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (xetep)

40 So while a buyback would pay only penny's on the dollar, can you fathom the cost of that?

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (HbCsM)

41
It will happen. Maybe not in my lifetime, but it will happen. They will render us defenseless. It's what they need to maintain total control. If we cannot protect ourselves from tyranny, then tyranny we shall have. Tyranny is what they want, and they are relentless.



Prepare for gun-shaming. Prepare to be a social pariah if you own a gun. Prepare for them to teach this to your children in school. Prepare for them to teach this in the liberal churches. Prepare for them to check gun registrations when you go to look for a job. Prepare to be shunned.



It's coming. They will not give up. They never give up.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (dFi94)

42 Doesn't it sound logical? Doesn't it sound safe?


to be disarmed in the face of armed aggression?

It makes perfect sense, to kneel in your orange jumpsuit, your hands tied behind your back as your killer saws at you carotid artery with a dull pocket knife.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (w4Fnj)

43 Barry, if you wanted to pump up your dismal economy by pumping up firearm sales, you could have just said so. I'm your huckleberry.

Posted by: Fritz at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (3tjn4)

44 And this comes just as Little VIA, who has struggled with finding himself academically comes home from school today with a huge smile on his face.

He's taking forensics in 12th grade, and they were going over bullets, casings, and gun design to day.

He tore it up, smoked every section.

Had a taste of not being the dumb kid in class, and was pumped!

(His teacher plays paintball, and is aware of Little VIA trap shooting, so there is no danger of red flags due to gun knowledge)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (VPLuQ)

45 The gun debate gets louder all the time.

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (DL2i+)

46 As a puppet of the NRA, I welcome this initiative by the Libtards. Please come and take my guns.

Between a .30-'06, or a 8mm, or a 7.62 x 51mm, I will give you everything I got, right between the eyes. I am on the other side of 50 and between once being proud of this country and having served her when she asked, please come and take my guns.

I am now ashamed of this nation and it's leaders. I am not afraid to die so I hope those who come are not also.

Please, come take my guns.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 05, 2015 08:23 PM (ej1L0)

47 Do lefty voters not watch zombie shows?

Posted by: @votermom at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (cbfNE)

48 They'd be worth the $1.40.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (69qNa)

49 Let. It. Burn. And come and get them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (ij7E3)

50 South Africa had 49 murders a day last year . They're gun free , supposedly .
Honduras , Mexico ,gun free . Also with civil war levels of violence .
With the U.S. demographic composition , that's the level of violence we'd have to look forward to
Whitey and his guns have a murder rate about like Belgium . The leftists can kiss my rebel d#ck .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (mP1RE)

51 I'll have the back-up piece on your ankle.

Posted by: cunthillary at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (WCnJW)

52 They.will.just.not.stop. Until every American is disarmed. So much easier that way to send us to the camps.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (9iR5/)

53 1 Killers will just use hammers.
Posted by: redenzo at October 05, 2015 08:13 PM (WCnJW)


I hear that the NRA thinks you should be allowed to have guns with hammers already built into the gun!

Posted by: wooga at October 05, 2015 08:24 PM (x9NcI)

54 Show's how out of touch the msm and the donks are if they think they are going to prohibit guns.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (iQIUe)

55 Bring it. Trump said the answer is MOAR GUNS. So, bring it, pussies!

Rich of Reid to say that about the NRA when his BFF is LaPierre!!

Anything to get Obama's Syrian failure off the front pages. ANYTHING.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (xetep)

56 22
Charles W Cooke called it, drop the charade and take a shot at repelling the 2nd


No, they'll just get another friendly justice on the Supreme Court and get a ruling that says the 2nd just means the National Guard can have muskets.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (2jQGY)

57 41,

They can try. All I will say is this... Bullying people who have firearms isn't a smart plan.

Posted by: Los Zetas at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (f7eH8)

58 Pile of empty brass, you jackbooted fascist motherfuckers.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (kpqmD)

59 A gun free society? So then, we have a religion free society?
===============================



Have you noticed that those two things often go together? Render people defenseless, make them totally at the mercy of the government, strip them of their religion, and Government reigns supreme and un-challenged.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (dFi94)

60 First the evil guns.

Next the evil exercise bands.

Posted by: Dingy Harry at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (ECrmY)

61 The stupid bastards don't even realize that they're ACTUALLY calling for civil war.

Do they?

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (zaVwL)

62 Some Republican candidate for President should introduce a bill with everything the Dims want into the Senate. Make them vote for it. Every week until election day, a slightly different flavor.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (ztOda)

63 Just checked over at http://ammoseek.com/ and there was no drop down menu selection for Armed Insurrection ammunition. I'm guessing the popular calibers will be under 'varmint".

Posted by: Daybrother at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (IgAcw)

64 Well, I was off to the Real Ho's of the OC, but this is Much More Interesting.

I'm sure the feral yutes of Savannah will gladly give up their guns.

I'm so fucking tired.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (FsuaD)

65
Ace, I see lefty writers on twitter discussing their FB groups dedicated to discussing framing issues and articles to promote SJ. This worries me. Doesnt this worry you??

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (iQIUe)

66
Barack Obama: Gun Salesman of the Year!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2015 08:27 PM (ODxAs)

67 sj?

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:27 PM (Uk9e2)

68
7 YEARS RUNNING, btw

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2015 08:27 PM (ODxAs)

69 A gun-free society, eh? So all of the Federal agencies have to disarm too?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:27 PM (sdi6R)

70 I know a way to make American a gun free society --- invent a better weapon: laser blaster, phaser, or that flying pen thing from Guardians of the Galaxy that you have to whistle to. We need to get our whistling skills back.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (ztOda)

71 I was going to buy myself a handgun for Christmas. Guess I'll move up the purchase date and schedule a canoe trip.

Posted by: no good deed at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (GgxVX)

72 No, they'll just get another friendly justice on the Supreme Court and get a ruling that says the 2nd just means the National Guard can have muskets.


Posted by: Cave Johnson at October 05, 2015 08:25 PM (2jQGY)


The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

People commit suicide, with guns.

ergo... its a Tax...

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (qh617)

73 Registration is kind of a line in the sand, but my understanding (maybe this is from freak out sites I don't remember) but my understand is that they have a list of everyone who has applied for a background check somewhere... Which is sort of registration if you bought your gun officially. Instead of getting it used, from family, through a friend...and that's the kind of thing they want to go after.

Posted by: Lea at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (vmMMi)

74 Their mask was always made of transparent material.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (W5DcG)

75 If only those poor little boys in Hairy Reed's basement had been armed. With baseball bats.

Harry Reid has to be the evilest of Evil Bastards.

What does it take to be kicked out of the Mormon church?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:28 PM (FsuaD)

76 The Monopoly on the use of force clause.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (69qNa)

77 grammie,

As a member of both the VFW and the NRA, I am already a pariah.

Fortunately, their brainwashing didn't take hold in my children, and they are very adept, just as their parents, in the handling and operation of various firearms. They both own handguns and rifles.

No, they're not taking our firearms without a fight. And good luck getting local cops to enforce that.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (zyIlW)

78 How about instead they just teach lefties not to kill. You don't like someone's religion/ politics/ ethnic/ sexual orientation or social justice it's not a reason to kill them

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (HbCsM)

79 mmm, ok, bring it

Posted by: anti-socialist at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (o9lmn)

80 47 Do lefty voters not watch zombie shows?

They do, and they bitch about how the shows do not offer a third way. It's all "pacifists die, gun nuts live" outrage.

Spoiler ridden example linked in my nic. A taste:

"The Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead send the message to a society in the throes of endless war, openly nativist and racist politics, and mass gun psychosis that the only way to ensure the survival of you and your loved ones is to act with maximum brutality at all times. It's not that I'm saying these shows are turning people into killers; on the contrary, everyone involved knows damn well that this is decadent nonsense since virtually no one watching will ever be in the personal position to do anything like what Travis Manawa and Madison Clark are made to do. But the same is true of the NRA or Donald Trump or Ben Carson, who for political and financial profit fuel the paranoid, masturbatory murder fantasies of a country full of gunfucking shut-ins terrified of the unwashed, undead masses flowing over the border, out of the ghettoes, and into Main Street USA. Ideologically, Rick Grimes and George Zimmerman are just a zombie apart."

Posted by: wooga at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (x9NcI)

81 Well I'm glad they quit fucking around and finally said it. Now we can get down to business. Bring it, motherfuckers.

Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2015 08:29 PM (e3bId)

82 Killers will just use hammers.
Posted by: redenzo at October 05, 2015 08:13 PM (WCnJW)

I hear that the NRA thinks you should be allowed to have guns with hammers already built into the gun!
Posted by: wooga


Striker fired madness would shock the world.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:30 PM (ztOda)

83 I spoke with an elegant, Northeastern lady at church last night.

She shocked our son by telling him she carries. And so do most of her girlfriends.

And my jaw was on the floor, as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:30 PM (FsuaD)

84 my kids shoot

other kids envy them

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:30 PM (Uk9e2)

85 When exercise bands are outlawed, only pedophile senators will have exercise bands.

Posted by: Real Everyday American at October 05, 2015 08:31 PM (EDYaR)

86 I'm betting on all of you with the guns.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 08:31 PM (AC0lD)

87 As somebody said earlier today, why don't the Feds start by going into the inner cities and forcibly confiscate guns from the hoodrats and gangbangers?

I'll start the popcorn.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:31 PM (sdi6R)

88 Not terribly surprising...it's what the left has been trying to do since the 1960s...at least the shroud is finally down.

I can remember two mass murders early in my lifetime: Richard Speck in Chicago and the UT Tower shooter. IIRC, at UT students ran to their cars, returned with rifles, and held the shooter in the tower until the cops finally ran up the steps to kill him. A tough tactical approach.

Now, they cower at a statue of Jefferson Davis...oh yeah, that's progress.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at October 05, 2015 08:31 PM (nJxvF)

89 It will be interesting to see the People disarmed by the gubmint.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:31 PM (FsuaD)

90 Dear Leftist Assholes:

In short, not just no but FUCK NO!!!!

Have a nice day! (Lethal Weapon Style)

Posted by: JB1000 at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (ZPPN5)

91 Hairyback Guy @ 46: "I am on the other side of 50..."

Yep, I feel exactly the same way. I have maybe 25 decent years left -- not enough to make it worth living on my knees.

But here's the thing: They'll approach this incrementally. Suppose one of their first moves is a confiscatory tax on ammo -- a tax that, say, doubles the price.

Is that enough for anyone to take the path of the "constitutional remedy"? Probably not.

So then they'll double it again. And they'll declare anything more modern than a flintlock to be a class 3 device.

All we can do, realistically, is roll this shit back, with a vengeance, by electing the right people.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (pCf+a)

92 Fortunately, I've been gun-free since the terrible boating accident.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (0cMkb)

93 The stupid bastards don't even realize that they're ACTUALLY calling for civil war.
Do they?

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 08:26 PM (zaVwL)



The stupid ones are puppets of the higher ups, who probably don't care at all.

It's not like those are ever going to be in personal danger.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (0NdlF)

94 Why doesn't the Left submit a bill to amend the Constitution if they feel so strong about gun control? They won't because they are Facists who want their way by dictoral fiat.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (+lSVr)

95 All we can do, realistically, is roll this shit back, with a vengeance, by electing the right people.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (pCf+a)



lolwut.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (0NdlF)

96 This actually will come in handy. The census taker jerky is nearly gone.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (69qNa)

97 These fuckers should count their blessings I don't own a tank, .50 cal, M240B, M249 SAW, and a LRAD (just for shits and giggles).

Funny that I, in the eyes of the Left, that once I have DD214 in hand, I no longer have the right to operate a firearm.

Crazy fucksticks.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (zyIlW)

98 haha, confiscate or buyback from gangbangers

next day, they flip you off holding their new glocks

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (Uk9e2)

99 Awww, Barry, please let me keep my double barrel so I can blast away through my bedroom door?

Posted by: Joke Biden at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (ECrmY)

100 No, they'll just get another friendly justice on the Supreme Court and get a ruling that says the 2nd just means the National Guard can have muskets.
Posted by: Cave Johnson


Cave Johnson is right.

Posted by: Hugh Johnson at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (W5DcG)

101 I can remember two mass murders early in my lifetime: Richard Speck in Chicago
===================================




That guy creeped me out. I remember the Chicago Tribune ran black and white photos of the girls that he murdered. I was scared for days.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 08:33 PM (dFi94)

102 "The stupid ones are puppets of the higher ups, who probably don't care at all.

It's not like those are ever going to be in personal danger."

If it comes to trading rounds with other Americans, I swear to you, that will change. In the age of social media, targeted death squads will have it easy.

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 08:34 PM (zaVwL)

103 93,

Even the higher ups think they are safe until they are up against the wall.

Tell me that Hillary survives if she berates her SS detail and then tries to get them to take a bucket for her.

Posted by: Los Zetas at October 05, 2015 08:34 PM (f7eH8)

104 Oh and fuck the NRA for endorsing Reid. Especially when he was very vulnerable .

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (+lSVr)

105 The simple counter example to this retards civilized country charade is one word : Switzerland.
One good thing about Dems pushin this: WV Dem Manchin will be gone.

Posted by: jb at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (2aKiW)

106 My biggest concern will be deciding which gun to grab when the shit starts.

Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (e3bId)

107 Not so cocksure now, are you.

Posted by: MyBunker at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (famYS)

108 Sadly, I believe there are siblings of my husband's who would happily turn him in (and especially our son) for owning evil guns.

I can only hope they suffer the most during the Burning Times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (FsuaD)

109 Have they ever considered flash lynch mobs?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (69qNa)

110 Fuck it. Republicans need to go on the offensive. Demand mandatory gun ownership for all men ages18-64. Demand militia training for all young men between the ages of 16 and 18.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (fC9RO)

111 @101 - grammie winger...ditto for my late mother. Funny, I can't think of another episode that upset her more (well, except for JFK's assassination...she was from Boston and met him during his first run for Congress...and like every other young woman in MA, fell madly in love with him).

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (nJxvF)

112 91
All we can do, realistically, is roll this shit back, with a vengeance, by electing the right people.
Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:32 PM (pCf+a)


Sorry, but the clock has just about run out on that option.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230757

Don't get your hopes up too much for 2016.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

113 110 cut jib

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (Uk9e2)

114 SO, is it OK to fly a confederate flag and restore Confederate monuments seeing as this was just a knee-jerk deflection of their real goal of taking all guns?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:37 PM (NOIQH)

115 The high and mighty absolutely will be in danger too .
4th Gen war motherf2ckers .
The gunnies ain't stupid , they're not going to save all their ire for the local deputy sheriff .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 08:37 PM (mP1RE)

116 Well regulated means a high fiber diet.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:38 PM (69qNa)

117 I want to know how a Black guy kills nine White Christians and this is not a hate crime?



Not that it matters. He's in hell.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:38 PM (jJRIy)

118 BTW, LuckyGunner.com has a nice sale on in-stock ammunition...just sayin'.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at October 05, 2015 08:38 PM (nJxvF)

119 It will be hilarious when all the people living in the gun-free zones (Chicago, NYC, NJ, DC, etc.) are overrun by roving bands of yutes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:38 PM (FsuaD)

120 Posted by: Weasel at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (e3bId)

Grab them all and hand them to your friends.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (+lSVr)

121 JFK was not good looking & I think most of the family is homely.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (sj3Ax)

122 What kinds of ammo will the Federalies be dropping?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (69qNa)

123 More people will die if the left tries to confiscate guns than all gun deaths (excluding wars) in the entire history of this nation.

And maybe, including wars.

Go ahead. Make my day.

Posted by: Brendan at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (gkvx9)

124 Yes, even saying these words makes the NRA happy. It fuels the slippery-slope argument the gun lobby uses to oppose even the most modest, common-sense reforms. You see? Background checks today, confiscation tomorrow.

Yeah ... you have proved the point. Thanks. Now, why don't you get your Modern Man pansy ass to one of the many other nations that are all better, in your view, than this one? After all, you have the whole world to choose from. It is only this nation that you imagine to be the backward, evil, terrible place. So go to one of those nations that you claim are more refined, more advanced and better. Go. Enjoy. I'll pack you sandwiches.

Slippery slope? LOL. These idiots would push everyone off a cliff if they thought they could. And the stupidity of them. Just proving that all the worst ideas of them and their twisted motivations are true.

Posted by: Shrillary of Cankle at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (zc3Db)

125 Oh and fuck the NRA for endorsing Reid. Especially when he was very vulnerable


Thanks for reminding me of that. If you've given up on everything, this can all be pretty entertaining.

There's only one appropriate response for this:

Somebody should introduce a bill tomorrow to ban all guns and get a vote.

Of course we all know that won't happen and we know why.

Posted by: AD at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (S9XdH)

126 Damned cankle sock!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 05, 2015 08:40 PM (zc3Db)

127 121 - Carol...he sure fooled a lot of young women in his time...of course the gobs of money and the presidency might have had something to do with it.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at October 05, 2015 08:40 PM (nJxvF)

128 This is why Trump's gun policy is excellent - not just defending the 2nd Amendment, but pushing for CCW to be applicable across state lines (IIRC).

Punch back twice as hard!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:40 PM (NOIQH)

129 Fuck it. Republicans need to go on the offensive. Demand mandatory gun ownership for all men ages18-64. Demand militia training for all young men between the ages of 16 and 18.
Posted by: Colorado Alex


National CCW reciprocity; otherwise known as F-you Bloomberg.

Common Core = gun safety and marksmanship standards

Annual $500 tax credit for ammo purchase -- "for a well regulated militia"

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:40 PM (ztOda)

130 How many prisons do they plan to build, and how many folks do they plan to shoot to make this happen?

The government can't stop illegal drugs. It previously failed to stop alcohol when that was illegal too. Trying to get all the guns? Won't work out either.

Posted by: Fail Rabbit at October 05, 2015 08:40 PM (hlMtE)

131 121
JFK was not good looking I think most of the family is homely.



Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (sj3Ax)

Yeah, but he sure liked screwing 16 year old girls.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (jJRIy)

132 I had a little tussle with a puppet recently. I lost. Badly.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (Dwehj)

133 110 Fuck it. Republicans need to go on the offensive. Demand mandatory gun ownership for all men ages18-64. Demand militia training for all young men between the ages of 16 and 18.

Increments. First nationwide Open Carry, then the world!

Posted by: derit at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (jT+gh)

134 108 Sadly, I believe there are siblings of my husband's who would happily turn him in (and especially our son) for owning evil guns.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 05, 2015 08:35 PM (FsuaD)


That is why I cut all ties with liberal friends after the 2012 election, some of whom I had known for many years.

They would not only turn you in for owning guns, they would turn you in for insulting the President or any other evil mindthought. See the Soviet Union, East Germany, China, Cuba, and any number of other countries.

I do not want to have anything whatsoever to do with those people.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

135 110 Fuck it. Republicans need to go on the offensive. Demand mandatory gun ownership for all men ages18-64. Demand militia training for all young men between the ages of 16 and 18.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 05, 2015 08:36 PM (fC9RO)

I like it. Except that then libs would be trained in guns.

Not that they would want to hold them anymore than they would a dead fish.

Posted by: Brendan at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (gkvx9)

136 This could be the only thing that saves the Republican party from collapse.

Just in the nick of time!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (bLnSU)

137 "JFK was not good looking & I think most of the family is homely. "

Actually, I think most of the family is dead.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (VPLuQ)

138 The TPP will put pressure on the US about gun control. If you read the fine print this is part of our partnership, cause we just can't have guns when nobody else does. 40% of the global economy and the other 11 countries don't like guns.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 05, 2015 08:42 PM (cgCXO)

139 Go long on tar and feather futures.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:42 PM (69qNa)

140 >> JFK was not good looking & I think most of the family is homely.

No kidding!
And a lot (most?) of the men are total women-abusing/killing a$$holes.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:42 PM (NOIQH)

141 I just wish certain people would have cut against the grain, bitched about certain abuses of power, and let us know earlier that shit was going off the rails.

And maybe stood firm against our instinctive urge to kiss ass to whatever authority presented itself.

That would have been useful.

Posted by: MyBunker at October 05, 2015 08:42 PM (famYS)

142 The U.N. Small Arms Treaty is coming.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (69qNa)

143 You know the Declaration of Independence does state that it is the duty of men to abolish governments that are abusive. Just sayin. Maybe it's time to take a realistic look at shitcanning the Feds.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (ij7E3)

144 Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"



Well, we're calling for a leftist-free society.

Posted by: Guns at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (oKE6c)

145 "Mass buyback."

If the Left wants to spend their own money to buy guns and then destroy them, I can live with that.

Posted by: Myiq2xu at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (5fSr7)

146 Was it Charles Cooke who was saying to the Left why don't you guys go on and start calling for this?

Seems they took up his challenge.

I don't think this will be good for them.

So, what kind of roller coaster ride will aa Trump Presidency be?

Posted by: blaster at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (2Ocf1)

147 I like it. Except that then libs would be trained in guns.

Not that they would want to hold them anymore than they would a dead fish.Posted by: Brendan at October 05, 2015 08:41 PM (gkvx9)
I figure that more of them would realize that they like owning a gun than would fight for the other side. The goal is to force a cultural change. Teaching young men that they are responsible for defending their communities and that they have to do their part and can't freeload off the sacrifices of others would pay dividends IMHO.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (fC9RO)

148
Well, this seems as good a time as any for some God-speak:

==============================================

Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm
against the schemes of the devil.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the powers,
against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces
of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God,
so that you will be able to resist in the evil day,
and having done everything,


to Stand.


Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (dFi94)

149 Ha. Drudge has link re: vertigo beneath Clinton stuff. Love Drudge and his photos of Hilz.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (LJ4iV)

150 >> I had a little tussle with a puppet recently. I lost. Badly.
Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid

You misspelled moppet.

Posted by: Aviator at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (c7vUv)

151 What percent do you think of the if correct 300,000,000 weapons do they know about? Then what percent would get turned in ? Obviously in Australia they missed one or it is a new arrival, either way they didn't get them all.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (HbCsM)

152 Dingy Harry's why I dropped my NRA membership. They kept propping him up.

Lie down with dogs....

Posted by: speedster1 at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (1brdf)

153 Fourth generation warfare. Journalists, bureaucrats, random Federal agents, "civilian" family members will all be targets along with political leaders. They can't possibly be stupid enough to think they can take this country there.
The NSA and the FBI may have an (illegal) record of every firearm legally transferred but if just 1% of the gun owning population says "no" with their firearms that's about 800,000 really pissed off people against a standing military of 1.5 million.
It just won't fly. International secret treaty provision notwithstanding.

Posted by: Daybrother at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (IgAcw)

154 the UN is a club for totalitarians

defund it now, and kick it out

they can have Dubai

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (Uk9e2)

155 Er..ah..bullshit. The waitresses adored me.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted Kennedy at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (Dwehj)

156 JFK was not good looking I think most of the family is homely



That's what my wife says too. I can't judge guys' looks at all, and was kind of surprised when she said that.


Of course, she's spoilt, but that can't be helped.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (oKE6c)

157 >>Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"


So move to the UK.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (NOIQH)

158 The Modern Man opposes guns but does support getting someone else with a gun to take your guns away.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 08:45 PM (4ErVI)

159 A beautiful night in Seattle for football and elbows.
Just saying.....

Posted by: Diogenes at October 05, 2015 08:45 PM (08Znv)

160 It's only surprising that they admitted it. Registration, licensed dealers, gun-free zones, all of them are doomed to failure and will require stricter measures until you inevitably reach confiscation. "Slippery slope" isn't an accusation of intentional deceit (though it's that for many gun control proponents) but the logical prediction of the sequence of events, each one determined by the conditions that caused the preceding one remaining unchanged.

Not that confiscation will work, either -- just look at how safe Mexico is.

Posted by: Socratease at October 05, 2015 08:46 PM (FqHs5)

161 The liberals don't want upright citizens to be allowed guns, eh? Ask a Cuban to see how that has turned out. Or a Mexican. Or a North Korean. Of course, if they abolish the 2nd Amendment, they will also have to take any "arms" (as guns are technically "fire" arms); so no swords, battle axes, war hammers, clubs, cudgels, blackjacks, knives, daggers, dirks, nunchuks, bec de corbins, halberds, spears, bows, crossbows, garrotes, maces, morning stars, flails, whips, etc. The NRA members at their next convention should all be armed with swords; no laws against that, right? That would be hilarious.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at October 05, 2015 08:46 PM (MJN9k)

162 Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"


^^
Come and take it, bitch.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 05, 2015 08:46 PM (KkVB6)

163 Guns have killed many more when only held by the government:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pqks7o7

Really good info for responding to lefty gun-grabbers.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (NOIQH)

164 If the Left wants to spend their own money to buy guns and then destroy them, I can live with that.

Posted by: Myiq2xu at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (5fSr7)



$50 tax rebate coupon per gun. Subject to availability of funds.

When has the left ever acted in good faith?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (0NdlF)

165 So Hilary made her little speech on TV about guns at a restaurant tonight: my son told my daughter she's like the lady in Hunger Games.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (ztOda)

166 Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"



Start with the ghettos. Go house to house in Compton. Please put it on PPV.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (oKE6c)

167 144 Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"



Well, we're calling for a leftist-free society.
Posted by: Guns at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (oKE6c)


That really needs to become a meme.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

168 I've been telling all the gun grabbers the last few days to go for the repeal of the 2nd. Their responses have all been articles about having the sads.

Fuck em, fuck them all. If you want to take one of my rights, you need to sack the fuck up and go out and do it. Quit posting hashtags and memes that show just how mad or sad you are, and go out and repeal the 2nd.

The GOP fought a fucking Civil War to enact an amendment outlawing slavery, what will you Democrats do to repeal an amendment? Fight a hashtag war?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (Z7G74)

169 The Ferd Hiatt proposal will gain traction until the Dems discover it is costing them the support of middle class suburban black guys who are so angry about it they aren't judt stsying home on Election Day, they are going out and (horrors!) pulling the "R" lever. Then they will go back to the Mark Halperin / Mika B talking point that we have to do something !!!!! and there are lots of smart people who can surely come up with reasonable plans. But no, I don't have any specific ideas.
Dumbasses.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (igqg1)

170 143 You know the Declaration of Independence does state that it is the duty of men to abolish governments that are abusive. Just sayin. Maybe it's time to take a realistic look at shitcanning the Feds.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (ij7E3)

One big problem: The majority that elected Obama into office isn't going to institute a new government that anybody on the right would like.

Posted by: AD at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (S9XdH)

171 Plow the U.N. Building into the river.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (69qNa)

172 Rethinking your support of the Searchlight Strangler yet, NRA?

Posted by: never trust a leftist at October 05, 2015 08:47 PM (aRgs3)

173 Danged Italics.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (69qNa)

174 BARREL.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (0NdlF)

175 I do have a problem with italcs. Fixed.

Posted by: AD at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (S9XdH)

176 This is supposed to bring fear.

Do not fall for this crap.

I hope the Dems are going to pay for this, big time. Witness Europe today (public without guns). Witness that most of the shootings, under Obarfy, are in "gun free zones." Witness Chichago, Baltimore, etc. Witness that no one speaks of gangs and black on black murders.

Bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (LJ4iV)

177 Modest, common-sense, safety reforms? What is it?

Posted by: Ted Striker at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (JO9+V)

178 173 Danged Italics.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (69qNa)


Racist.

Posted by: AD at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (S9XdH)

179 The Left doesn't really want total gun control or gun elimination. They want gun control and gun elimination for specific groups of people. The biggest group being every one on the Right.

It's ironic since almost every assassination or assassination attempt made by the Left or sympathizers of the Left.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (+lSVr)

180 No guns allowed in The Barrel.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (4ErVI)

181 162 Left Calling for "Gun-Free Society"
^^
Come and take it, bitch.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 05, 2015 08:46 PM (KkVB6)




The redcoats had the same idea. Ask them how that worked out.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (oKE6c)

182 "Mass buyback."

If the Left wants to spend their own money to buy guns and then destroy them, I can live with that.

Posted by: Myiq2xu at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (5fSr7)


I can't. The left never spends their own money and the "buyback" would not be voluntary.

The left, and anyone who supports this idiocy, can just jack off a salmon.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (zc3Db)

183 I currently own 93 guns. They are not getting a damn one of them with out a fight.



Yes, I also have LOTS of ammo.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (jJRIy)

184
Per wiki, Hiatt moved the WaPo ed page "right". Hired Parker and such. Which goes to show you what passes for conservative around there:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hiatt

Also:

Hiatt is the author of "If I Were Queen of the World" (1997).

'kay.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (kdS6q)

185 Er..ah..bullshit. The waitresses adored me.


Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted Kennedy at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM


You spelled "spit in my Chivas" wrong, fucktard.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (KrAjA)

186 173 Danged Italics.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (69qNa)

Racist.

Posted by: AD at October 05, 2015 08:48 PM (S9XdH)



Race card won't keep you out of the Barrel.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (0NdlF)

187 Couple nights ago, I'd asked if it was wrong to be impressed with how the Italians dealt with Mussolini and his mistress, after his fascism had wrought such destruction in Italy.

Frankly, I don't care that the Communists killed him because he "betrayed" communism in favor of his home-brewed local version thereof.

I give it to 'em on style. From the lampposts, by the heels, well, it had a certain flair.

Our current house-brand(s) of fascists ought to take heed. We can't just let the Italians win on style, here!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (McRlu)

188 saves the Republican party from collapse.



Just in the nick of time!


They're both racing to the bottom.
Too bad
C None of the above
isn't available.

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2015 08:50 PM (DL2i+)

189 177 Modest, common-sense, safety reforms? What is it?


Since when do the Reds advocate anything within hailing distance of common sense?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 08:50 PM (oKE6c)

190 >>>JFK was not good looking I think most of the family is homely.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 08:39 PM (sj3Ax) <<<




N-n-now y-y-y-ou know w-w-why w-w-we all h-h-h-ave alcohol a-a-a-nd d-d-drug problems.


Only w-w-w-ay w-w-we can stand t-t-t-o l-l-look at each o-o-other.





Posted by: RFK, Jr. at October 05, 2015 08:50 PM (ECrmY)

191 Just got my 2 suppressors today. Let's just say if they come for guns, I'm putting them to work.

Posted by: HoboJerk at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (bjHLG)

192 It will never happen. Remember gay marriage. Absolutely unthinkable.

Posted by: Frildorg at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (ZTv83)

193 Gun Free Society?

Brilliant Idea. What could go wrong?

Let's do it. Let's start the civil war. The last one was 4 years and 600,000 dead.

I think the over/under on this one will be about 20 million dead, unless nukes get used, then it is likely 200 million.

The last one had rules of war, and established armies and front lines. This one will have organized guerillas like Quantrill's raiders as the norm.

Posted by: rd at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (SukjU)

194 Shit just got realer!

Posted by: Bad Boys II at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (JO9+V)

195 I wasn't born when JFK was elected & only saw pictures of him & he was goofy looking.
RFK looked like a weasel.
I think the eldest was good looking, Joe Jr.
Teddy (my former senator) murderer, drunk, rapist, waitress sandwich maker w/Dood (I think it was Dood) was good looking when young but then he turned into fat SOB.

Remember pic of him in FL w/no pants on when nephew was accused of rape? When was that, 90's?

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 08:52 PM (sj3Ax)

196 I use an old cell phone. Original Samsung charger only $7 on Amazon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:52 PM (69qNa)

197 Therefore, take up the full armor of God,
so that you will be able to resist in the evil day,
and having done everything,
to Stand.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 05, 2015 08:43 PM (dFi94)

You nailed it Grammie. God Bless.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 05, 2015 08:53 PM (ej1L0)

198 Let's do it. Let's start the civil war. The last one was 4 years and 600,000 dead.





You just counting the Yankees we killed? I like it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:53 PM (jJRIy)

199 sic semper tyrannis

Posted by: oldgeezer at October 05, 2015 08:53 PM (4pPcl)

200 As there is no way to argue rationally with people who are ruled by their emotions, I think "Fuck You" should become the all-purpose response to this.

"Something needs to be done about gun violence."

"Fuck you."

"We need common-sense gun restrictions."

"Fuck you."



And so on.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

201 154 the UN is a club for totalitarians
defund it now, and kick it out
they can have Dubai Somalia
Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 08:44 PM (Uk9e2)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 08:54 PM (oKE6c)

202 Thus Always to Trannies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:54 PM (69qNa)

203 "No more Democrats...
the Republicans are already as bad as we can stand..."

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 08:55 PM (hCdMd)

204 Common Sense EBT Reform.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:55 PM (69qNa)

205 Let's talk about sensible abortion control.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 05, 2015 08:55 PM (6n332)

206 Let's do it. Let's start the civil war. The last one was 4 years and 600,000 dead.

I think the over/under on this one will be about 20 million dead, unless nukes get used, then it is likely 200 million.

The last one had rules of war, and established armies and front lines. This one will have organized guerillas like Quantrill's raiders as the norm.
Posted by: rd at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (SukjU)

*****

Did I miss a meeting or something?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 08:55 PM (HFhPd)

207 Dear WaPo, disarm the Secret Service first.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 08:55 PM (C6cTZ)

208 Let's say that again: You're F'd in the head.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (hVdx9)

209 For those still paying attention to Clockboy. JihadWatch gots a scoop-
http://tinyurl.com/py969ym

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (aLXXe)

210 Nip Sip @ 183: "I currently own 93 guns."

Holy shit. I take it you've never been married; or you have one hell of a high-paying job. Or both.

I salute you, sir.

I wonder how many I have. I'm guessing maybe 15 or 20.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (pCf+a)

211 Carol, don't forget:
---Joe Jr. who killed a girlfriend in a car accident, and later attempted to annul his marriage after 10+ years of marriage and having two kids w/her.

-- Joe's brother Michael who started sleeping w/the family babysitter/friend's daughter when she was 14 and was only caught when she broke up w/him (at age 19) and he started stalking her.

--RFK jr. who was so abusive to his estranged wife (after him having numerous affairs), and he told her it would be better if she killed herself, which she did.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (NOIQH)

212 Disarm the Bureau of Land Management's Panzer Divisions first.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (69qNa)

213 183 I currently own 93 guns. They are not getting a damn one of them with out a fight.



Yes, I also have LOTS of ammo.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:49 PM (jJRIy)

I swear you had a terrible, terrible accident while transporting all your firearms via canoe

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (ck8TA)

214 We need Open Carry to raise awareness that law abiding gun owners aren't to be dismissed from polite society

Posted by: derit at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (jT+gh)

215 http://tinyurl.com/np5lw8n

Read this about 1965 immigration law change, pushed by Teddy K & Hart-Cellar signed 50 years ago.

I am embarrassed he was my senator. We're still paying for Great Society BS from LBJ.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (sj3Ax)

216 Remember the Ceausescus.

Posted by: Hugh Johnson at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (W5DcG)

217 206

Never mind. I mentally added an "ago" to the end of "4 years".

Now back to your regularly scheduled gloom and doom.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (HFhPd)

218 My Bold Proposal for a 'Gun Free Society':
(That Conservatives Would Go For)

The First 50,000,000 guns come from non-licensed, non-permitted, non-legal sources such as criminals.

From them on one out of every four guns (nearly 25%) collected during the program must come from non-licensed, non-permitted, non-legal sources.

Tracked on a monthly basis.

_

Hey. There are plenty of gun laws on the books. Might as well give urban politicians a reason to get the cops to enforce them.

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (0MJOU)

219 Free guns?! But they get you on the ammo, right?

Posted by: t-bird at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (yddCj)

220 Freedom. Liberty. Personal Responsibility. These things are just too hard for Modern Man to live with so they need to go onto the dustbin of history. Help us, Love Gov, you're our only hope!

Posted by: Count de Monet with a goatee at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (JO9+V)

221 199
sic semper tyrannis

Posted by: oldgeezer at October 05, 2015 08:53 PM (4pPcl)

Wahoo Wah.



Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (jJRIy)

222 The Muslims want an Irvingistan between Dallas and Fort Worth.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (aLXXe)

223 Carol and Lizzy, a quick primer on how dysfunctional the family of Joe Kennedy Sr is

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2012/03/kennedy-blarney.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (C6cTZ)

224 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)

225 224 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)


Not much that I can think of, other than "abolition of private property".

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

226
One big problem: The majority that elected Obama into office isn't going to institute a new government that anybody on the right would like.


We won't be dropping property qualifications for voting this time.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 08:59 PM (ztOda)

227 Funny thing about a civil war today is that the "Red" states would win it in about a month.

All they have to do is cut off the power, food, and water that they send to the "Blue" states.

Plus, their little plans won't last very long.
Day 1, send out 100 officers to get guns, 90 return.
Day 2, send out the 80 officers that show up to get guns, 70 return
Day 3, send out the 50 officers that show up to get guns, 40 return
Day 4, send out the 25 officers that show up to get guns, 15 return
Day 5, send out the 5 officers that show up to get guns, post an ad on Craigslist for more officers when none come back.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 08:59 PM (Z7G74)

228 224 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)

Id say no...when a outright communist is leading their pols, not much left to the imagination.

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 09:00 PM (ck8TA)

229 211 Carol, don't forget:
---Joe Jr. who killed a girlfriend in a car accident, and later attempted to annul his marriage after 10+ years of marriage and having two kids w/her.
-- Joe's brother Michael who started sleeping w/the family babysitter/friend's daughter when she was 14 and was only caught when she broke up w/him (at age 19) and he started stalking her.
--RFK jr. who was so abusive to his estranged wife (after him having numerous affairs), and he told her it would be better if she killed herself, which she did.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 08:56 PM (NOIQH)




You left out Michael Skakel, who climbed up in a tree and jerked off (so you know he was really a Kennedy) while stalking the girl he eventually beat to death with a golf club.


For the Kennedys, I revive the "one-drop" rule.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 05, 2015 09:00 PM (oKE6c)

230
I swear you had a terrible, terrible accident while transporting all your firearms via canoe

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 08:57 PM (ck8TA)


Never getting in that canoe again.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:00 PM (jJRIy)

231 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)

****

Open calls for happy fun camps for us.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (HFhPd)

232 Posted by: rd at October 05, 2015 08:51 PM (SukjU)

It all depends on how law enforcement and the military follow orders. I believe at this time they would refuse 'unlawful' orders ( unconstitutional ) and prevent such a terrible scenario. I believe that is one reason Obama and the left are trying to destroy the present military by forced retirements and mandatory social changes.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (+lSVr)

233 I can't even imagine the full extent of the horrors if the liberals would try anything so stupid.



And I've typed and deleted several posts already. And I've had ideas.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (AC0lD)

234 That's one big fucking canoe!

Posted by: Count de Monet with a goatee at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (JO9+V)

235 Id say no...when a outright communist is leading their pols, not much left to the imagination.

Yeah, but enough about Martin Luther King Jr's popularity-rankings among conservative blog readers

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (aLXXe)

236 Who is, and who is not, a gun dealer is stipulated by law. Only gun dealers have to keep records and do background checks. The President cannot just wave this away.

Posted by: Grump928(C) has an M39 at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (rwI+c)

237 First Rate Canoe of the Line.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (69qNa)

238 227 Funny thing about a civil war today is that the "Red" states would win it in about a month.

All they have to do is cut off the power, food, and water that they send to the "Blue" states.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 08:59 PM (Z7G74)



This is not going to be states vs. states. This will be neighbor vs. neighbor.

Look at every other civil war in history. Ours was an anomaly.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

239 All you need to do to stop this is to agree that some of our rights need to have common sense limits...and ask what limits could be made on the media to prevent copycat shooters.

Lefties and media tyupes shut up then.

Media types because they make money of these incidents. They encourage them.

Posted by: sexypig at October 05, 2015 09:03 PM (dZQh7)

240 Well, I hate to admit it, but there is one area where The Left and I are in complete agreement: we both want total control of my life.

Posted by: t-bird at October 05, 2015 09:03 PM (yddCj)

241 Folks, it's time for nothing short of overt, massive resistance against the Federal scum.

What's it gonna take before people say enough is enough?

Start looking for and finding ways to avoid taxes, pay as little into the system as possible as long as you can, support nothing Federal.

Attack big business with boycotts, bad press and protests. Conservatives/Christians should be able to put a 10% dent or more in just about any company. Given how bad they want to grow earnings, that should get their attention.

And as far as Christians submitting to the rulers and authorities, you're gonna have to decide: am I going to submit, or am I going to resist the devil? Those are mutually exclusive items when relating to the Feds not, because the US government is now the most evil institution in this country.

Our greatest enemy isn't al-Qaeda, or ISIS, or Putin. It's the US government, starting with that sub-human mongrel currently occupying the White House.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:03 PM (C3E0x)

242 You it's a bad sign when you need TWO gun safes.



Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:03 PM (jJRIy)

243 The left will totally fail now. Just as they failed on Obama care which can't be eliminated and must be amended and fixed. And it's impossible to build s wall. Ask everyone for whom that was a litmus test s few election cycles ago. Or mass deportation. Or the deal with Iran. Need to modify that. Can't eliminate it and go back. Need to abandon Iraq and Afghanistan too. But they were once the great test of will. Then gay marriage. The list of unthinkable a that have become thinkable is long.

Posted by: Gilbert at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (ZTv83)

244 Open calls for happy fun camps for us.

Will Bill run the camps or will Hillary?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (ztOda)

245 This is not going to be states vs. states. This will be neighbor vs. neighbor.



Look at every other civil war in history. Ours was an anomaly.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)


And we've been paying attention and the muslims have taught us things....the liberals really don't want to go down this path....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (AC0lD)

246 So was your canoe named Titanic?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (C6cTZ)

247 Say the commie scum have around 2,000,000 tame killers to carry out the confiscation regime . That's active duty military and cops .

Do they seriously think patriots don't have those organizations infiltrated ?
Do they think those guys are all gonna' volunteer as their human bullet traps ? Sheeeaa' right .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (mP1RE)

248 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Just the one!

Posted by: NAMBLA at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (yddCj)

249 Maori War Canoe. Didn't know those capsized, Nip. Condolences.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 09:05 PM (McRlu)

250 T9, D-Lamp, Jeff ...

... Anybody else guilty of spoiler alerts - or did I get 'em all ?

Posted by: MyBunker at October 05, 2015 09:05 PM (famYS)

251 Will Bill run the camps or will Hillary?
Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:04 PM (ztOda)

****

I would like to think Bill. He leans more toward the Moron lifestyle in a couple of critical areas.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 09:05 PM (HFhPd)

252 Nimitz-class Canoe.

Posted by: Adm. Painter at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (aRgs3)

253 "Majestic Canoe Cruises...gun collections welcome.."

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (hCdMd)

254 Lizzy
I do not keep up much with Kennedy family because they have too many kids to remember.
Boston host Howie Carr is writing book about them and you can bet it will not be flattering.

He used to call him The Fat Bastard

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (sj3Ax)

255 And yes, I understand how difficult it would be. This is a matter of changing the culture and norms of an entire society. It would take time.----left winger

So, the same can be said about illegal immigrants?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (Oy0zJ)

256
Can I ask a super duper dumb question? Has any of the guns used in a single mass shooting ever originated at a gun show? I mean, if that "loophole" is the source of the guns, well, then, fine. But I suspect that gun shows have exactly zero correlation with mass shootings.

This is the classic leftist way of arguing - find something, anything really, and demand changes to something else that they want changed, despite there being zero cause and effect between the two.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (VPvxh)

257 Is that what happened to Tyler?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:07 PM (69qNa)

258 OK, I have been having issues all day with computer. How do you change default search engine.



Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:07 PM (jJRIy)

259 You it's a bad sign when you need TWO gun safes.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:03 PM (jJRIy)



I think I've figured out your canoe capsizing problem ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:07 PM (0NdlF)

260 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?
****

Just the one!

Posted by: NAMBLA

Nope...they just came out in Slate last week...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:07 PM (hCdMd)

261 Tyler took a canoe to Tipper... And AlGore lost his chakras.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 09:07 PM (C6cTZ)

262 Test

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:08 PM (VviqM)

263 So, deporting a ten million illegal immigrants is logistically impossible, but going door to door to every home in the country to collect a hundred million firearms, that's worth talking about?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 05, 2015 09:08 PM (2lndx)

264 OK, I have been having issues all day with computer. How do you change default search engine.

Which browser you use? If you check preferences, there's usually something there.

You don't have those adware search bars installed, do you?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:08 PM (0NdlF)

265 The first question on the first day of gun confiscation from the Police Union -- how does the Class III issued vest perform versus hardcast 45/70? 30-06 spitzers? 30-30 Noslers?

I'm thinking Blue Flu on an endemic scale.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:08 PM (ztOda)

266 @222- There are 53 mosques in the Dallas-Plano area.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 05, 2015 09:09 PM (cgCXO)

267 Fire fox

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:09 PM (jJRIy)

268 Seattle: 7

Detroit: 0

10:56 left in the 2nd.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:09 PM (zyIlW)

269 only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed

In other words, he doesn't really want a gun free society, he wants certain people to have guns so they can take the guns away from everyone else, he's just fine with guns as long as he feels they're serving his purpose.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (VviqM)

270 So, deporting a ten million illegal immigrants is logistically impossible, but going door to door to every home in the country to collect a hundred million firearms, that's worth talking about?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 05, 2015 09:08 PM (2lndx)


You see, mentally ill people *might* use illegal firearms to hurt someone. So all legal guns need to go.

Whereas illegal aliens shoot people, rape children, drunk drive, suck up welfare, AND give Democrats votes.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (0NdlF)

271
It all depends on how law enforcement and the military follow orders. I believe at this time they would refuse 'unlawful' orders ( unconstitutional ) and prevent such a terrible scenario. I believe that is one reason Obama and the left are trying to destroy the present military by forced retirements and mandatory social changes.

Posted by: Max Rockantansky at October 05, 2015 09:01 PM (+lSVr)

During Katrina, they went door to door confiscating guns...

That was both Police, and National Guard Units.

As a Ret. US Navy Man meself... with a Son still on Active Duty... I understand how powerful the 'programming' is to follow orders.

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (qh617)

272 Re: Outright ban on guns.

You can't blame them for being emboldened.

After all, look what they did to marriage and relatively fast too.

Posted by: Raspail at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (QolCq)

273 Please make the 2016 election all about this. Pretty please. If they go all in on it the GOP may not be able to use their lack of super majorities and the WH as an excuse anymore.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (LYCUN)

274 This is not going to be states vs. states. This will be neighbor vs. neighbor.

Look at every other civil war in history. Ours was an anomaly.
Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)


Oh, I know that.

I figure Lowes and Home Depot will be doing a lot of business from customers doing home renovations after tragically losing their firearms in unfortunate boating accidents.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (Z7G74)

275 Howie said Patches Kennedy was on 60 Minutes last night wrote book about Ted being an alcoholic. Family wasn't happy, except mother Joan.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (sj3Ax)

276 >>Will Bill run the camps or will Hillary?

Heh
I got dibs on the women's camps.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (c7vUv)

277 Posted by: Justice John Roberts at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (qh617)

Major Sock Fail.....

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (qh617)

278 There are 53 mosques in the Dallas-Plano area

There are at least 20 ex-SOF guys for every Congressional district.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:11 PM (ztOda)

279
Dear Washington Post:

You first. Lead by example and disarm your security guards and let us know how it works out for you.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 05, 2015 09:11 PM (kdS6q)

280 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:09 PM (jJRIy)

If you're using latest firefox, top right corner has a button that looks like a bunch of lines, which opens a menu.

Click Options, then go to the Search tab. That lets you set default search engine.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:11 PM (0NdlF)

281 Bold.
Dickless.

But Bold.

Posted by: Garrett at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (3Hskx)

282 I'm not picking on anyone but I wonder how many of us would really pull the trigger. The cop that comes could be your neighbor/fellow church member/2nd cousin. My DD214 says I would do my duty but I just wonder. At 66, I don't worry too much what happens to me but many others might.

Posted by: oldgeezer at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (4pPcl)

283 269 only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed

In other words, he doesn't really want a gun free society, he wants certain people to have guns so they can take the guns away from everyone else, he's just fine with guns as long as he feels they're serving his purpose.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (VviqM)


Anddd....

I'll bet money that he is also onboard the 'Cops are Racist bastards who shoot black people' Train...

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (qh617)

284 260 sorry the article "I'm A Pedophile, But Not A Monster" was from Salon magazine

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (hCdMd)

285 Thats Rich Right ?
Gun Free Nation...
How about no limit tags
IYKWIMAIASYD

Posted by: MC5 at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (S1WrL)

286 272 Re: Outright ban on guns.
You can't blame them for being emboldened.
After all, look what they did to marriage and relatively fast too.
Posted by: Raspail at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (QolCq)




Yeah, I got a little ahead of myself too. Softly, softly, catchee monkey, comrades.

Posted by: Salvador Allende at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (oKE6c)

287 Arms manufacturers and gun sellers smile, sales/profits soar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (9mTYi)

288 I figure Lowes and Home Depot will be doing a lot of business from customers doing home renovations after tragically losing their firearms in unfortunate boating accidents.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (Z7G74)

If I were a gun owner...I would be seriously thinking of making a secret room kinda thing or stash some in the shtf cabin

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (ck8TA)

289 Tools Options Advanced.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (69qNa)

290 256
Can I ask a super duper dumb question? Has any of the guns used in a single mass shooting ever originated at a gun show? I mean, if that "loophole" is the source of the guns, well, then, fine. But I suspect that gun shows have exactly zero correlation with mass shootings.

This is the classic leftist way of arguing - find something, anything really, and demand changes to something else that they want changed, despite there being zero cause and effect between the two.
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 05, 2015 09:06 PM (VPvxh)


I do believe the number is 0.

They have either passed background checks, or they stole them.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (Z7G74)

291 I'm not picking on anyone but I wonder how many of us would really pull the trigger. The cop that comes could be your neighbor/fellow church member/2nd cousin. My DD214 says I would do my duty but I just wonder. At 66, I don't worry too much what happens to me but many others might.

I'm leaning towards ... "No". Not my first duty.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (0NdlF)

292 You know it's a bad sign when you need TWO gun safes.





Posted by: Nip Sip
****

Only if you are someone trying to break into a home with two gun safes.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

293 If you're using latest firefox, top right corner has a button that looks like a bunch of lines, which opens a menu.

Click Options, then go to the Search tab. That lets you set default search engine.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 05, 2015 09:11 PM (0NdlF)

I'm no computer whiz, but I just added AdBlock Plus after spending a couple years fighting my computer, browser, etc. and swearing at it more times than I can admit.

Should have done this years ago. Working like a charm, browser works much faster now too.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (C3E0x)

294 Figured it out.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (jJRIy)

295 I'm thankful little kids don't have guns.

Pederast's (alleged) lives matter!

Posted by: Harry Reid, alleged pederast at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (wZ2hu)

296 Blano at 241,I can't copy paste on iPad, you are right that our biggest enemy is in the WH!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:14 PM (sj3Ax)

297 I would pay to watch that. Henrietta from Gunslinger Girls vs Hairy Reed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 09:14 PM (C6cTZ)

298 Hairy Reed will be returning all those sweet NRA campaign donations. I'm certain, because Hairy is a one-eyed MAN OF HONOR.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 05, 2015 09:14 PM (403PN)

299 >>>No guns allowed in The Barrel.<<<

The barrel is rifled for her pleasure.

Posted by: Fritz at October 05, 2015 09:14 PM (3tjn4)

300 New t-shirt slogan - "Come for the gun, get the bullet".

Make no mistake - an armed populace is all there is that keeps the social engineers from "Living the Dream". That is the line in the sand, that is the hill to die on.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (zBwYh)

301 291

I have no family nearby who are cops.

So problem as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (zyIlW)

302 From the other window

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyglLGL-Akw

CAUTION this was preformed by experienced beer drinkers.


Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (DL2i+)

303 I'm not picking on anyone but I wonder how many of us would really pull the trigger. The cop that comes could be your neighbor/fellow church member/2nd cousin. My DD214 says I would do my duty but I just wonder. At 66, I don't worry too much what happens to me but many others might.

That's why NOW is the time to figure out friend or foe. That includes family and friends. I'd prefer not to, but when the war finally comes, who is your REAL family....the people who want to live free like you, or the people who want to destroy you?

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (C3E0x)

304 No problem even.

Sheesh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (zyIlW)

305 Does anyone on the left even know how to scuba dive?
How are they going to get all The Horde's guns?

Posted by: Chi at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (Gh638)

306 No, a gun free society does not sound safe. I'm a small woman with small children. I can't do much to defend myself and my kids without a weapon.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (DLBJh)

307 Posted by: oldgeezer at October 05, 2015 09:12 PM (4pPcl)

First rule of fight club....


/waves...

Hi Bob from the NSA!!!

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 05, 2015 09:15 PM (qh617)

308 Blano,

Yep.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:16 PM (zyIlW)

309 If I were a gun owner...I would be seriously thinking of making a secret room kinda thing or stash some in the shtf cabin
Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (ck8TA)


I've been doing some thinking this past weekend on where to build something like that in my house.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 05, 2015 09:16 PM (Z7G74)

310 {{{Chi}}}

Hey babe.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:16 PM (zyIlW)

311 Speaking of Lowes or Home Depot.

*builds a room for SMFH and Chi*


Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2015 09:17 PM (C6cTZ)

312 sorry the article "I'm A Pedophile, But Not A Monster" was from Salon magazine

You've GOT to be kidding me. Which is my clue that in Barky's Omerica, you're not kidding me.

Posted by: t-bird at October 05, 2015 09:17 PM (OLNwX)

313 Hey BLM, heads up! The party of the Klan has just announced they're gearing up to send troops of white cops into the inner city to tear apart your homes looking for guns.

I guess they must figure that when you can't shoot back, you can't riot and resist. Well, it's one way to answer the BLM question.

Posted by: Multitude at October 05, 2015 09:17 PM (c7WnJ)

314 I doubt they could rely solely on the po po. Even in NY there were departments who publicly stated they would not be enforcing the SAFE act. They'd have to get the military involved and it would tear the country apart.

The better route is to regulate it to death. Make buying a box of ammo an NFA issue. $200 tax stamp, six month wait, and God knows how much the actual ammo would cost in that situation.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 05, 2015 09:17 PM (LYCUN)

315 Only if you are someone trying to break into a home with two gun safes.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

THIS is true. I actually have a pistol in every room. I once set off alarm at 4 AM. It was a silent alarm. OK, I had been drinking.

I did not open door with a weapon, thank God. Two cops were at the door.

Note to self. Typing in your alarm code one number off will bring the cops and not set off the alarm.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (jJRIy)

316 Fundamentally change America.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (69qNa)

317 Introducing Gun Oil into any body of water is a violation of the 1998 Clean Water Act so be sure your firearms are already rusted before canoeing....

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (hCdMd)

318
Also - how exactly are we going to achieve this magical gun-free society? I mean, just wondering, but how are you legally and physically going to get guns away from people? Door to door? Buy backs? Legally it would seem the second amendment has themstumped. Physically - there are a LOT of people that would resist any imaginable confiscation scheme, perhaps violently. People would hide them. There would be a robust trade in illegal weapons. Hell, people can and would make their own guns. (look up the term "zip gun" sometime).
The desire is questionable, the legality dubious, but the physical ability to confiscate 300 million or so private firearms is ridiculous.
I'm sure Vox has some method, like hanging a giant electro magnet from a blimp, and just sweeping it over the land to collect guns.


Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (VPvxh)

319 You know, alternately, just spit balling here, they could give guns to security officers at schools and train them for their use.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (VPvxh)

320 I've been thinking it might be wise to have a black powder gun, in addition to a regular gun. Would be easier to make your own ammo.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (5HBd1)

321 Haha Anna.

*Goes back to watching Seattle embarrass Detroit*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:18 PM (zyIlW)

322 A smart R party would introduce an amendment repealing the 2nd A tomorrow. Get them all on record now. Time to put up or shut up, Harry.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2015 09:19 PM (kTF2Z)

323 "I'm A Pedophile, But Not A Monster" was from Salon magazine


Which was followed a week later by "I'm Not The Montser, You Are - My foray into the right wing hate machine" or something similar.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 05, 2015 09:19 PM (LYCUN)

324


this is how they got gay marriage done. this will happen within 5 years if they have their way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:20 PM (zOTsN)

325 323 indeed...that cocksuker is bold when he's in his element...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:20 PM (hCdMd)

326 Get involved. Take a kid shooting get them into the sport. I am looking at taking my niece to an Appleseed this year.

Take a kid hunting.

This is the best defense!

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 05, 2015 09:20 PM (dULJN)

327 Could Stafford go a whole half without throwing an interception?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:20 PM (69qNa)

328 Storytime!

When I was in fourth grade, our private school put up one of those dumb Gun-Free Zone signs in the front lawn. I think some law or regulation was passed making them do it because I can remember the entire school staff grousing about it. My best friend even made up a hilarious "We are a drug-free-gun-free school zoooone" song about it.

When I was in sixth grade, we had to check weather stations around the school for a meteorology unit every morning, and one morning my best friend found a handgun hidden in the bushes. Because he went hunting with his dad, he know this was not something to mess around with, so he herded his partner into the school, ran to the secretary's office and told her to call the police. He then ran back to the guard the door to make sure no little kids got near the bush (we were a K-8 school and it wasn't uncommon for little ones to use the door by the seventh grade classroom). The police came, took the gun, interviewed all of us, and that was it. We never heard why the gun was there or who dropped it, but this was in the days before school shootings, so we really thought nothing of it.

And where was the bush that he found the gun in? About 15-20 yards from the Gun-Free Zone sign.

Posted by: pookysgirl can almost run at October 05, 2015 09:20 PM (K27gs)

329 "Harry Reid claimed to be pro-Second Amendment for his whole career --
but now that he's retiring, there's no more reason to maintain that
fiction"

This is one among many reasons that I severed ties with the NRA.

They gave Reid their imprimatur, and he proceeded to quietly work against gun rights, behind the scenes and via indirect methods. For decades.

Similarly: Kirsten Gillibrand. She posed as a supporter of gun rights and got NRA's endorsement, even though it was plain as a pikestaff that she would cynically dump the pose the instant she moved from her upstate House seat to a statewide Senate run.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 05, 2015 09:21 PM (noWW6)

330 It would be unconstitutional to force citizens to give up their guns.

But I argue that it WOULD be constitutional, to ask them instead.

Posted by: TylerMichaels at October 05, 2015 09:21 PM (N6Swg)

331 we have known this since the "bitter clingers" comment in 2007

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:21 PM (zOTsN)

332 241

There's always one.

Posted by: Garrett at October 05, 2015 09:21 PM (3Hskx)

333 Harry Reid: Republicans Are 'Acting As Puppets For The NRA





Harry Reid is acting as the posterboy of NAMBLA

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (DiZBp)

334
I swear, it looks as if these dipshits are gonna make me fulfill that oath I took so long ago.

Give me a holler, and we'll rock and roll a bit, then.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (jeCnD)

335 328...so that's what happened to it...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (hCdMd)

336 Bob from NSA is a fine man and a true patriot . I raise my glass ( your very good health sir).

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (mP1RE)

337 I told y'all in the last thread... no football thread is George Bush's fault

Posted by: Pete Carroll at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (ECrmY)

338 Heh irongrampa,

Works for me.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (zyIlW)

339 "I'm not picking on anyone but I wonder how many of us would really pull the trigger."

Here. I have spent my entire adult life being spat at, insulted, defamed, and generally abused by leftists. And then they want to disarm me and everyone like me so that they can finally reduce me to helpless slavery?

Fuck. That. Blood will flow. I will deposit my family with someone who can care for them and go to war. I have the know-how, the resources, and the will. I didn't spend five friggin' years in the Army so I could be made into a peasant by a coalition of limp-wristed Pajama Boys.

They'll die.

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 09:23 PM (zaVwL)

340 All enemies foreign and domestic.

Posted by: eman at October 05, 2015 09:23 PM (mR7Es)

341 Didn't another Kennedy kill himself by overdose?
The family had so many tragedies because there were too many of them.Every family has tragedies, but most aren't brought on themselves.
Was Joe K Jr only one killed in the war? Of course not.
Joe Sr had his daughter given lobotomy! Great father!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:23 PM (sj3Ax)

342 Oh God, I forgot about the Lions tonight. Thankfully I don't have cable. Are they embarrassing themselves again?

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (C3E0x)

343 So speaking of guns. I subscribe to the Waco newspaper for the Sunday coupons. The whole biker shoutout story keeps getting weirder.

Only 5 or so of the 135 arrested are still wearing ankle bracelets. All have been very, very compliant. Weird story a around. Ballistics is still sorting everything out.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (DLBJh)

344 Democrats and the authoritarian thugs, but I repeat myself, are just prepping the battlefield for the run against Trump.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (NaeCR)

345 340..enemies...thank heavens...I thought it was enemas...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (hCdMd)

346 @94

They don't have to pass an amendment, much like gay marriage all it takes is enough maniacs on the SCOTUS, and, poof...

There goes the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (TT7sr)

347 7-3 Seahawks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (69qNa)

348 *Goes back to watching Seattle embarrass Detroit*

You've heard the Detroit (Rock City) Lions "knock-knock joke?

Knock knock

Who's there?

Owen

Owen who?

Owen four

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (KCxzN)

349 uh shootout. Thanks, autocorrect.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:25 PM (DLBJh)

350 maybe they would just make you pay an enormous tax to keep each gun

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:25 PM (zOTsN)

351 SMFH,I saved link from 2 posts ago for fruit flies next summer.Thank you!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:25 PM (sj3Ax)

352 The country is already broke. How are they gonna pay to buy back all of those guns?

Posted by: freaked at October 05, 2015 09:25 PM (BO/km)

353 What? Me worry?

Posted by: Alfred E Newman at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (l0lja)

354 " You know it's a bad sign when you need TWO gun safes. "



Just recently helped with 7 & 8 for dad. Don't know if I should say that though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (o3+6R)

355 Oldie. What I saw at the coup.

http://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b

Posted by: Dave, home for a few at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (+MGZR)

356 I don't know how many guns I have. My memory is very bad that way, somehow. Also, every damn time I buy one, a one-a-billion freak accident happens which destroys/loses the gun beyond any hope of finding. Boating accidents. Sometimes the earth just opens up and swallows 'em right then and there.

I tell what they will do. They know they can't confiscate anywhere near all the guns out there. Ammunition, however, is a consumable. That's where they'll put the squeeze on us. Make it illegal to buy ammunition, effectively (10,000% tax, etc, etc).

I hope all of you with young 'uns are teaching them to lie like a Democrat when "the nice man" from wherever, doctors, teachers, etc, inquire about how many guns do his/her parents have.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (dvuhZ)

357 I've been doing some thinking this past weekend on where to build something like that in my house.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac
----------------------
If you're on a crawlspace, a hidden door under the range or fridge would be easy. Box could easily be concealed down below with the backing from the insulation you removed - no one would ever know from inside the house or underneath.

Posted by: Chi at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (Gh638)

358 "
They don't have to pass an amendment, much like gay marriage all it takes is enough maniacs on the SCOTUS, and, poof...

There goes the 2nd amendment."

Yep. And the judge that screws is will probably be appointed by a GOPe president.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (DLBJh)

359 352 The country is already broke. How are they gonna pay to buy back all of those guns?

Posted by: freaked at October 05, 2015 09:25 PM (BO/km)

Wasn't California handing out IOU's for taxes? Or they will give you bonds

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 09:27 PM (ck8TA)

360 Take a non shooter shooting. They will like it ! Grow the base. Gun control is already unpopular. Let's keep it that way.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 05, 2015 09:27 PM (dULJN)

361 232. It may take the loss of a few state gun confiscators ...pour encourager les autres... about where their greater duty lies, to the Constitution or to the regime?

See, also, Solzhenitsyn and burning in the camps later at the lost opportunity to put fear into the organs of state security " " What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?... "

See also, Ceausescu. Think the FOP pension collectors in your town would be any less resistant to flipping sides than the Romanian security forces were? Heck, these guys are now standing down just out of fear of being Sharptoned. Imagine if their skin in the game was infinitely more risky.

Posted by: Raspail at October 05, 2015 09:27 PM (QolCq)

362 Glenn Reynolds predicts the Democrats will pay a price for this,






Reading the comments in the link to that USA Today story shows why we're in the mess we're in. Some people are just breath takingly stupid.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 05, 2015 09:28 PM (DiZBp)

363 I've been thinking it might be wise to have a black powder gun, in addition to a regular gun. Would be easier to make your own ammo.

Get one with a 1-48" twist or slower that will shoot roundballs.

Rifles like very soft pure lead, smoothbores often do fine with a lead alloy, such as found in wheel-weights.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 09:28 PM (bZ7mE)

364 Cali will save tons of money now that they can just kill people rather than treat them.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (DLBJh)

365 Just recently helped with 7 & 8 for dad. Don't know if I should say that though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:26 PM (o3+6R)

Whats wrong with collecting gun safes? kind of weird he doesnt put anything in them...

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (ck8TA)

366 Gonna be a helluva run on large diameter PVC pipe and endcaps in the next few weeks.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. any leads on where to buy industrial quantities of silica gel?

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (McRlu)

367 Another look at 80% lowers?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (VPLuQ)

368 "I'm not picking on anyone but I wonder how many of us would really pull the trigger."

*Raises hand*

There is no doubt in my mind that I would defend my right to bear arms, against all enemies...foreign...and domestic.

And if the plan is to surreptitiously do away with one of the amendments without using the process defined in the constitution, then I owe no allegiance to the government. In fact, according to the Declaration of Independence it is my duty to abolish such a government.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (ij7E3)

369 Maybe just more Stray Voltage. But maybe not.

It's more like a power line dangling across your house.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (LUgeY)

370 This is not going to be states vs. states. This will be neighbor vs. neighbor.

Look at every other civil war in history. Ours was an anomaly.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)


That's because ours wasn't a "civil war" where two sides wanted control ofr one nation.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (zc3Db)

371 328...so that's what happened to it...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:22 PM (hCdMd)

Next time you have a "tragic boating accident," could you not do it next to a school, please? Thanks.

Posted by: pookysgirl can almost run at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (K27gs)

372 342 Oh God, I forgot about the Lions tonight. Thankfully I don't have cable. Are they embarrassing themselves again?

They were actually doing allright, but the Hawks are about to get 6 to make it 10-3 Hawks (if they get the pat of course)

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (VviqM)

373 "The whole biker shoutout story keeps getting weirder. "

I've read of this. Very conflicting stories as to when the police arrived. Ranges from already on scene at time of shooting to much later. The arresting of 140+ people many of whom were not seen doing anything than being present. No charges on most of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (o3+6R)

374 Silica gell can be gotten cheaply off of Amazon.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (VPLuQ)

375 Glad to be of help, Carol : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (zyIlW)

376 That Mercury iPad browser sucks & crashes & I have heard same of Dolphin since IOS9.

Anyone ever hear of Operation Wetback by Ike in 1950s?
We couldn't do it now because of PC BS!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:31 PM (sj3Ax)

377 2nd and 23 now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:31 PM (69qNa)

378 The gun-show this weekend is going to be PACKED.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 09:31 PM (bZ7mE)

379 I live out in the country with a good bit of property of mine and the family. Lot's of good burial ground (the trick is devising a good "map" that gives you the coordinates, but is indecipherable to anyone else).

Of course there's a saying. If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to use 'em.

A word of warning. Never, ever make public statements about your own line that the govt. shouldn't cross. Don't trust anybody, save your family, and that's immediate family.

That is, if you had those terrible boating accidents, don't tell anyone where your stash is.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 09:31 PM (dvuhZ)

380
Guns for green-
Soylent green

Posted by: Justamom at October 05, 2015 09:32 PM (sVnbw)

381 Hillary can do what she wants, but I won't be caught dead riding in the executive Fiat.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (403PN)

382 343 So speaking of guns. I subscribe to the Waco newspaper for the Sunday coupons. The whole biker shoutout story keeps getting weirder.

Only 5 or so of the 135 arrested are still wearing ankle bracelets. All have been very, very compliant. Weird story a around. Ballistics is still sorting everything out.
Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:24 PM (DLBJh)


From what I've been reading, the evidence is that it was the cops who did all the shooting. Or maybe it was Federal agents, I'm not sure.

It wasn't a biker shootout. It was a massacre.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (sdi6R)

383 "kind of weird he doesnt put anything in them..."


It is a strange obsession, but, we can't talk him out of it so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (o3+6R)

384 SNFH,
How are you & Chi?
Great I hope!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (sj3Ax)

385 361 232. It may take the loss of a few state gun confiscators ...pour encourager les autres... about where their greater duty lies, to the Constitution or to the regime?

See, also, Solzhenitsyn and burning in the camps later at the lost opportunity to put fear into the organs of state security " " What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?... "

See also, Ceausescu. Think the FOP pension collectors in your town would be any less resistant to flipping sides than the Romanian security forces were? Heck, these guys are now standing down just out of fear of being Sharptoned. Imagine if their skin in the game was infinitely more risky.

Posted by: Raspail at October 05, 2015 09:27 PM (QolCq)

Yep. You don't have to "win" you just have to make the cost of their actions high enough.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (kpqmD)

386 Seattle's O-line sucks.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (zyIlW)

387 Let me go grab a picture to show why gun control will never fly.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (DLBJh)

388 @256

It's a similar tact to what they tried in New Jersey with 50 cal rifles after Newtown.

A 50 cal rifle has never been used in the commission of a crime in New Jersey or the rest of America for that matter but the Donks wanted to ban it just because they could but Chrisite vetoed it.

Which is one of the few things hes done a good job on, keeping the Donks from passing useless gun laws.

Sadly the next governor is going to be a Donk and they've been pent up for the last eight years so I have unrelenting and draconian gun laws to look forward to.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 05, 2015 09:34 PM (TT7sr)

389 Sacked again. Field Goal time.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:34 PM (69qNa)

390 384 is supposed to say SMFH obviously!

It's October 5 & I'm considering turning heat on.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:35 PM (sj3Ax)

391 They were actually doing allright, but the Hawks are about to get 6 to make it 10-3 Hawks (if they get the pat of course)

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:30 PM (VviqM)



I would give anything if that Obama loving c*ck munch Pete Carroll would spontaneously combust on the sideline.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 05, 2015 09:35 PM (DiZBp)

392 Introducing Gun Oil into any body of water is a violation of the 1998 Clean Water Act so be sure your firearms are already rusted before canoeing....

Posted by: Judas Washington
****

Good thing I had coated them in cosmoline and placed in plastic bags to keep them from rusting.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (hVdx9)

393 First and Goal to a 51 yard Field Goal.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (69qNa)

394 Besides, when did a bunch of varying bikey gangs decide to have a council discussing business in a busy restaurant in the middle of town in broad daylight. That's shit you do in a warehouse on the edge of town somewhere or out in the sticks at a safe house.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (o3+6R)

395 p.s. any leads on where to buy industrial quantities of silica gel?

Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (McRlu)

Also Grainger.com

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (ftVQq)

396 368
And if the plan is to surreptitiously do away with one of the amendments without using the process defined in the constitution, then I owe no allegiance to the government. In fact, according to the Declaration of Independence it is my duty to abolish such a government.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (ij7E3)


A government that refuses to defend its borders is already illegitimate.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (sdi6R)

397 ***
I have a Russian S K S
It's chambered point three oh
And has a dandy bayonet
That points where 'er you go

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:37 PM (hCdMd)

398 Damn mobile Facebook. Whatever. It was a picture of a friend who was in a wedding a few weeks back and the bride and a her bridesmaids were posing with guns for the wedding pics.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:37 PM (DLBJh)

399 Who uses bayonets anymore?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:37 PM (69qNa)

400 394 Besides, when did a bunch of varying bikey gangs decide to have a council discussing business in a busy restaurant in the middle of town in broad daylight. That's shit you do in a warehouse on the edge of town somewhere or out in the sticks at a safe house.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:36 PM (o3+6R)

The cops have been trying to sell this like it was straight out of Sons of Anarchy, when the facts that are coming out show an entirely different story altogether.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 09:38 PM (kpqmD)

401 224
Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)



Mass extermination of the Undesirables (i.e., us).

Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 09:38 PM (DLUnW)

402 The Waco thing is even worse, when you read the info about who was chosen for the jury. It will be interesting to see if it comes out that the cops are responsible for this and shot a lot of innocent people.

And thanks for the info on black powder guns! I am also thinking an air gun might be a useful tool too.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (5HBd1)

403 if a government doesn't control the border, how can it be called a government? what is it a government of?

Posted by: Feh at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (Uk9e2)

404 Who uses bayonets anymore?

Ask again in a couple of months...

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (KCxzN)

405 For the most part, I do trust Cops.


But, there are some organizations who claim to be involved in the enforcement of laws which I do not trust.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (VPLuQ)

406

Maybe it's time to start using the words that the FSA has turned into unmentionables.

Prog-hibition.

Mass deportation.

A Progressive-free society.

Let's say that one again: Progressive-free society.

Doesn't it sound logical? Doesn't it sound safe?

Posted by: Mortimer at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (0dcbp)

407 401 224
Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)


Mass extermination of the Undesirables (i.e., us).
Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 09:38 PM (DLUnW)

Ayers aired that one decades ago.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (kpqmD)

408 Are there any masks left for the left to drop?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 08:58 PM (LUgeY)


Mass extermination of the Undesirables (i.e., us)


Bill Ayers as a Cabinet Secretary

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (ztOda)

409 Come try to take my guns, libs, I dare you. I double dog Bernie sanders socialism dare you.

Posted by: Matt in Tampa at October 05, 2015 09:40 PM (aDpzg)

410 Hard to move downfield with incomplete passes.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:40 PM (69qNa)

411 405 For the most part, I do trust Cops.



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:39 PM (VPLuQ)

Why?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 09:40 PM (kpqmD)

412 403
if a government doesn't control the border, how can it be called a government? what is it a government of?



The tax-farm animals (i.e., us).

Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 09:40 PM (DLUnW)

413 If anybody wants me I'll be over here in my surrey with the "shall not be infringed" on top.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 09:40 PM (NeFrd)

414 "That's shit you do in a warehouse on the edge of town somewhere or out in the sticks at a safe house."

Right? Who has their Super Serious Biker Meeting in a shopping center with a bed bath and beyond?

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (DLBJh)

415 "Ask again in a couple of months..."

Have you ever actually held a Mosin Nagant with the bayonet mounted?


That's some serious metal sticking out the front.

Even with the M-44.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (VPLuQ)

416 Oops, i thought it was 3-3 before that fg.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:42 PM (VviqM)

417 Don't trust anybody, save your family, and that's immediate family.

That is, if you had those terrible boating accidents, don't tell anyone where your stash is.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 09:31 PM (dvuhZ)

This may sound awful, but I've identified a brother that, when the time comes, is on his own. He can stay in his suburban Detroit shithole and rot.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (C3E0x)

418 That's some serious metal sticking out the front.

Even with the M-44.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (VPLuQ)

****

One does balance out my Rommy G codes nicely.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (HFhPd)

419 "But, there are some organizations who claim to be involved in the enforcement of laws which I do not trust."


There is this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (o3+6R)

420 "Why?"

My interactions with them have led me to trust them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (VPLuQ)

421 Right? Who has their Super Serious Biker Meeting in a shopping center with a bed bath and beyond?

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (DLBJh)

Bikers who have agreed in advance to not get violent.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (C3E0x)

422 Oh, another trick they might try. Require run owners to have liability insurance. Pass laws defining civil fault if your guns cause "harm", then require you to hold insurance against that. Raise the price of owning guns to some ridiculous amount every year.

Hey, no problem, we're not banning ownership, we're just requiring reasonable common sense measures to protect the public.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 09:44 PM (dvuhZ)

423 There's not much left to be said, is there?







Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 05, 2015 09:44 PM (kKHcp)

424 THIS is true. I actually have a pistol in every room. I once set off alarm at 4 AM. It was a silent alarm. OK, I had been drinking.

I did not open door with a weapon, thank God. Two cops were at the door.

Note to self. Typing in your alarm code one number off will bring the cops and not set off the alarm.


Posted by: Nip Sip
****

Glad it turned out ok.
The alternative would be a pain generator type alarm.
I was house and dog sitting for a friend and accidently set off their alarm because I did not enter the code 2x.
When the alarm went off, the dog ran out of the house and I followed frantically texting my friend. As a result of a few minutes exposure, my ears rang the rest of the night.
Any alarm I buy will have to have that feature too.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:44 PM (hVdx9)

425 Right? Who has their Super Serious Biker Meeting in a shopping center with a bed bath and beyond?

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (DLBJh)

****

Because the space around Ikea was already booked solid?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 09:44 PM (HFhPd)

426 I'm gonna start a line of gun safes called Davy Jones Locker.

"When you just can't get out in your canoe, let Davy Jones Locker guns safes take care of you."

Posted by: enterprising Moron at October 05, 2015 09:45 PM (ECrmY)

427 publius - how will they enforce that? Oh -- thru registration and sales paperwork, a second look at personal sales only.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (ztOda)

428
only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed

In other words, he doesn't really want a gun free society, he wants certain people to have guns so they can take the guns away from everyone else, he's just fine with guns as long as he feels they're serving his purpose.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 05, 2015 09:10 PM (VviqM)









Leftists are just fine with guns, as long as they're the only ones using them. For example, noted limey cocksucker Piers Morgan.

http://tinyurl.com/nprevct

And per the usual leftist history, what they really want is to get a chubby while shooting kneeling kulaks in the back of the neck.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (o98Jz)

429 The Weenie Hut JR. was booked.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (69qNa)

430 I can hardly wait until the Progressives start the with the "All reasonable people agree that confiscation is really just internationally accepted common sense gun control!" platform.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (ftVQq)

431 I have a collection of Russian bayonets....finest steel available...

Posted by: Judas Washington at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (hCdMd)

432 Funny think happened today. One of my co-workers who grew up south of Tijuana said, "If they take away everyone's guns its gonna be just like the Mexican towns on the border here. I hope that doesn't happen."

Warmed that cold-hollow cavity where I used to have a heart

Posted by: Kindltot at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (3pRHP)

433 Hey, no problem, we're not banning ownership, we're just requiring reasonable common sense measures to protect the public.

I'm serious, NFA stamp for anything involving a firearm. Ammo, magazines, fukcing cleaning kits.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (LYCUN)

434 The Founding Fathers added the 2nd Amm. for a reason, and sport shooting ain't that reason. The Government is.

Posted by: maddogg at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (rgIC0)

435 420 "Why?"

My interactions with them have led me to trust them.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (VPLuQ)

That's a fair enough answer. I certainly don't trust them as an institution and am extremely circumspect in my dealings with them, rare as they are. Then again, I don't trust anyone in a governmental position of authority.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (kpqmD)

436
The Leftists have decided it is time to make the big push, a lame duck Leftist prez who likes to act the tyrant and a malleable congress who act the wimps, and their corrupt queen looking less likely to be at the coronation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 05, 2015 09:47 PM (ODxAs)

437
I personally know many LEO's that I would trust, mostly because we've had this conversation more than once during the past 7 years.

Almost without exception, they were military at some time in their lives.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 09:47 PM (jeCnD)

438 414 "That's shit you do in a warehouse on the edge of town somewhere or out in the sticks at a safe house."

Right? Who has their Super Serious Biker Meeting in a shopping center with a bed bath and beyond? Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (DLBJh)



Plus, there's a Twin Peaks right there, and they make a really good chicken fried steak.

Served by waitresses, with boobs.

The biker club put the big, scary meeting on their online calendar.

Their calendar.

Shit, I'm a lawyer, and I'm not that organized.

Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 09:47 PM (DLUnW)

439 I've got to make my cheeseburger.

Tomorrow maybe? It may be warm enough outside to spray roses.


Good Might.

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:48 PM (sj3Ax)

440 Right? Who has their Super Serious Biker Meeting in a shopping center with a bed bath and beyond?

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:41 PM (DLBJh)

Bikers who have agreed in advance to not get violent.

Posted by: Blano
****

I saw a few bikers on the scene that were interviewed, they said the other bikers started shooting first, not the police.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:48 PM (hVdx9)

441 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 09:46 PM (o98Jz)

Of course comrade, all reasonable people will agree that the security services that guard those in authority should be armed, it's just you peasants that can't be trusted with guns!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 09:48 PM (ftVQq)

442 "I did not open door with a weapon, thank God. Two cops were at the door. "

Yeah I told y'all about the Red Truck Mystery that the local cops were trying to solve a while back. Well apparently they knocked on my neighbors door at 11 pm and hid behind the wall when he answered the door. He described it as " a good way for them to get shot". Indeed. It was his stepson's truck. But they wanted to feel super important in our boring town.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 09:48 PM (DLBJh)

443 "This may sound awful, but I've identified a brother that, when the time comes, is on his own."

Well, we've all got family. Dammit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:48 PM (o3+6R)

444 That was a massacre. Any charges yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (69qNa)

445 They could repeal the Second Amendment, but they could never enforce an actual ban. Local sheriffs would refuse to enforce it. If lefties tried to get the military involved, they would face a mutiny. Most enlisted military are conservative, and a lot of them own firearms.

Posted by: Mike at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (c056A)

446 Yes. Britain's so safe now that they have to try to ban knives.

France is so safe that cars burn daily and synogogues are attacked.

Meanwhile, the people who can't build a government website at 10x what it would cost the private sector think they can a) take away the rights written and affirmed in the Constitution and b) confiscate every gun-- not just those of Bob Peckerwood, NRA Member, but Shabiq Shabazz and Enrique Tijuana, both professionals who depend on their weapon for their daily commerce.

350,000,000 guns out there. And a few hundred thousand bureaucrats think they will call the shots.

Posted by: Frau Hillbags Von Crotchfrost at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (oVJmc)

447 I don't think there is a political solution to any of this. Even if we were to somehow get President Ted Cruz, the Deep State and the Uniparty would fight him so hard...

I hope the run on ammo will hold off for a bit longer, I need more damnit.

Posted by: East Bay KG at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (YUrE9)

448 I had that Twin Peaks Chicken Fried Steak last week, for dinner AND breakfast. The venison chili was OK. Waitress was too cute and nice, needed something sluttier.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (ztOda)

449 How many cops (and National Guard/military) do you suppose you could really trust.

They give out the confiscation order. Maybe not nationwide, just the most progressive states. Any cop who refuses will have to quit/be fired. They lose all their pension and benefits. And I think the leftists have succeeded in indoctrinating a many of the young punks. They don't liberty and independence like we do.

This has been their plan for years. With the current generation, we're seeing the fruits of their planning.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 09:50 PM (dvuhZ)

450 Bill Ayers as a Cabinet Secretary

He's volunteered to be the SecEd now that Duncan's quitting.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 09:50 PM (LUgeY)

451 From what I've been reading, the evidence is that it
was the cops who did all the shooting. Or maybe it was Federal agents,
I'm not sure.



It wasn't a biker shootout. It was a massacre.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (sdi6R)

Preliminary autopsy reports showed pretty much all the dead where from, headshots, calibers used where non-specific. Rather extraordinary.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 09:51 PM (NaeCR)

452 >>Are there any masks left for the left to drop?


Well, they haven't *fully* admitted that your kids don't belong to you (Melissa Harris-Perry has) and that letting some people die is acceptable (Ezekiel Emanuel's Total Loves nonsense).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 09:51 PM (NOIQH)

453
Who uses bayonets anymore?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2015 09:37 PM (69qNa)








They're scarier than one might think. As one internet wag put it "the more I learn about fighting with the bayonet, the more I want to improve my marksmanship".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 09:51 PM (o98Jz)

454 hey, looks like WA state is the one state that regulates black power guns and ammo! How many mass shootings have been done with black powder weapons??

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 09:51 PM (5HBd1)

455 Spell check doesn't work now?
I meant Good Night!

Posted by: Carol at October 05, 2015 09:52 PM (sj3Ax)

456 How many mass shootings have been done with black powder weapons??

Since Shiloh?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:52 PM (ztOda)

457 448
I had that Twin Peaks Chicken Fried Steak last week, for dinner AND
breakfast. The venison chili was OK. Waitress was too cute and nice,
needed something sluttier.

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (ztOda)


In Waco, you take what you can get. If you want sluttier, you have to go to South Florida, but it's hot and they don't have as many Bed Bath Beyonds or IKEAs there.

And the chili will give you the runs.

Did you know you can make a 12 gauge shotgun with a couple of pieces of PVC pipe and a nail? I can.

Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (DLUnW)

458 Ugh, that's "Total Lives"...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (NOIQH)

459
Personally, I think we would be a hellova lot better offwith a liberal free society than gun free. At some point, we will need to use the latter to eliminate the former, or suffer the former to eliminate the latter. I vote former.

Posted by: maddogg at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (rgIC0)

460
Accelerated citizenship for those serving for govt and doing the job of disarming Amerians that Americans will not do.

Posted by: Justamom at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (sVnbw)

461 383
"kind of weird he doesnt put anything in them..."





It is a strange obsession, but, we can't talk him out of it so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:33 PM (o3+6R)

++++++++++++++++++++++
Leaving pieces of rebar throughout the yard really annoying to freelance treasure hunters.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (NaeCR)

462 Bob Owens at his best:

http://tinyurl.com/bbj9te6

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (tAoev)

463

Mika's daddy Zbignew was just quoted in Politico saying that if Russia keeps proving the US by flying over NATO airspace, we, the US, should "disarm" them.

he means shoot down Russian jets.

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (zOTsN)

464 Bill Ayers as a Cabinet Secretary

He's volunteered to be the SecEd now that Duncan's quitting.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 05, 2015 09:50 PM (LUgeY)


Clock-making 101

Posted by: Tick-Tock at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (vBeA5)

465 "Shit, I'm a lawyer, and I'm not that organized."


That's more too it. They showed up, many of them armed and ready to fight, yet, it was supposed to a "friendly public meeting?" Gangs historically don't work like that. They keep to the DL. A real "meeting" don't go on in public view. Heavies are armed and ready.

None of it make a lot of sense unless you believe that bike gangs have suddenly lost all common sense that any tv producer can produce.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (o3+6R)

466 Glad it turned out ok.

The alternative would be a pain generator type alarm.

I was house and dog sitting for a friend and accidently set off their alarm because I did not enter the code 2x.

When the alarm went off, the dog ran out of the house and I followed
frantically texting my friend. As a result of a few minutes exposure,
my ears rang the rest of the night.

Any alarm I buy will have to have that feature too.





Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:44 PM (hVdx9)

LOL thinking about your sorry ass chasing the dog!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (jJRIy)

467 Obama's challenge: Tally Americans killed by gun violence vs. terrorism




I guess the asshole can't count on his own. And if it's such a problem why doesn't the community organizer ever say anything about the daily shootings in Chicago. Or doesn't he want to speak ill of his voting base?






Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (DiZBp)

468 Yeah, Piers Morgan tweeted about not understanding the American obsession with guns.

My reply: Thanks to men like my father, you didn't have to tweet that in German, shitbird.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2015 09:55 PM (kTF2Z)

469 Does this gun free society mean they'll enforce the borders to ensure no guns come across?

Posted by: CDR M at October 05, 2015 09:55 PM (TWXpK)

470 Did you know you can make a 12 gauge shotgun with a couple of pieces of PVC pipe and a nail? I can.


Posted by: Phinn
****

Pffft.
Rolled up magazine, glue and a bb.

Magazine shotgun.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:56 PM (hVdx9)

471 All the lefties need to do is get enough people to agree that mental illness is reason enough to keep someone from owning a firearm. So if you want to own a firearm, you'll need to be certified as not mentally ill by a doctor of some kind.

Good, common sense reform, right?

Then, a few years down the road, the desire to own a firearms is classified as a mental illness. Look for "hoplophilia" in the DSM-VI!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 05, 2015 09:56 PM (YJmuy)

472 provoking not proving

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:56 PM (zOTsN)

473 hey, looks like WA state is the one state that regulates black power guns and ammo! How many mass shootings have been done with black powder weapons??

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 09:51 PM (5HBd1)


*whistles non-chalantly*

Posted by: Guy Fawlkes at October 05, 2015 09:57 PM (vBeA5)

474 The good cops will master the blue flu concept . Save their pensions and save the country from civil war as well . If forced to kick doors , it'll be , "hey lieutenant you stack up first and go through the door of the guy in the suburbs that just retired from the Ranger regiment" . We'll be right behind ya' .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 09:57 PM (mP1RE)

475 Bob Owens at his best:

http://tinyurl.com/bbj9te6

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 05, 2015 09:53 PM (tAoev)


Bob Owens is an optimist.

Posted by: The Pessimistic Hat at October 05, 2015 09:58 PM (vBeA5)

476 LOL thinking about your sorry ass chasing the dog!



Posted by: Nip Sip
****
She wouldn't come back until the alarm was off.
Darned greyhound/German Sheppard mix.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:58 PM (hVdx9)

477 "How many cops (and National Guard/military) do you suppose you could really trust. "


When cops and NG see their names or their particularly-owned weapon types on the lists, what will they do? A bunch of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:59 PM (o3+6R)

478 Folks, are YOU going to wait for the gun confiscation forces to build up around your home until it is guaranteed you cannot win?

I say, go mobile.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:59 PM (hVdx9)

479 I will state again. Those of you with children, especially young ones, need to start teaching them to lie when they ask gun questions. You've probably read about shit like this, doctors, schools, etc asking the kiddies about any evil guns.

I've read several pieces by some shitstains with M.D.s after their name arguing how gun violence is a public health emergency and by God, it's their duty to help root it out.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (dvuhZ)

480 "Magazine shotgun. "


What capacity is that magazine?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (o3+6R)

481 This may sound awful, but I've identified a brother that, when the time comes, is on his own. He can stay in his suburban Detroit shithole and rot.
Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (C3E0x)


Same here. Went completely Daily Show on the NRA and is posting really stupid, long debunked crap on FB. I slaughtered him with fact, shut him up completely and I doubt I'll ever talk to him, face to face, ever again.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (7rAXc)

482 p.s. any leads on where to buy industrial quantities of silica gel?
Posted by: Jim at October 05, 2015 09:29 PM (McRlu)


I always liked petrolatum for long term storage of equipment, especially those antique planes, chisels and screwdrivers with the wooden handles.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 05, 2015 10:01 PM (3pRHP)

483 When cops and NG see their names or their particularly-owned weapon types on the lists, what will they do? A bunch of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 09:59 PM (o3+6R)


I'll take this one, seeing as it's an easy one.
Lifetime exemptions for LEO and NG that prove themselves loyal.


Easy Peasy

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 05, 2015 10:01 PM (kKHcp)

484 What capacity is that magazine?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (o3+6R)

*****

Cosmo.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:01 PM (HFhPd)

485 I live in Texas and people have guns but they dont talk about them to just anybody per se. Some family moved her from the east coast. She found out one family had guns and said she wouldnt allow her kids to play there anymore. She was informed that she wouldnt be able to send him to anybodies house then

think of it as herd immunity

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:01 PM (zOTsN)

486
So is JugEars gonna send the FBI and BATFEIEIO to shut down HomeDepot and Lowes for selling Sten submachine gun parts?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 10:02 PM (o98Jz)

487 I just ate a handful of Vanilla Wafers and am sort of, kind of, gluten intolerant, which, for me, is more glutton intolerant when stressed. Also liberal intolerant. BLM intolerant. I blame Baroque.

I hope that somehow I bite my tongue at the liberal fest this year with in-laws, otherwise known as Christmas. I had an imaginary argument pre-Vanilla Wafers with snotty brother-in-law. One of those passive-aggressive a-holes who, when you counter his liberal biased bs spew, acts all hoity-toity feelings hurt, that he was "only kidding." pfft. I doubt there is enough gin and tonic in the world, but will try to behave.

"Try to behave" is what Daddy said to me anytime I left the house, even into adulthood. Miss that man. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 10:02 PM (LJ4iV)

488 What capacity is that magazine?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill
****

One 12ga shell. Surprsingly, good for up to 4 shots.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:02 PM (hVdx9)

489 463

Mika's daddy Zbignew was just quoted in Politico saying that if Russia keeps proving the US by flying over NATO airspace, we, the US, should "disarm" them.

he means shoot down Russian jets.
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 09:54 PM (zOTsN)


I heard some idiot General (probably retired) on Bill Bennett's show this morning saying that we should confront the Russians in Syria. He went on about how we have more air bases in the region than they do, and they're actually pretty weak.

He's pretty sure they would back down if we stood up to them.

Me, I'm not so sure.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 10:02 PM (sdi6R)

490 Expect a entertainment/media push like they did for homosexual marriage.

Posted by: WOPR at October 05, 2015 10:03 PM (LTDSy)

491 >>>Pffft.
Rolled up magazine, glue and a bb.

Magazine shotgun.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 09:56 PM (hVdx9)<<<




... and the no.1 most dangerous improvised gun:

A Rolling Stone Derringer

Posted by: Rolling Stone at October 05, 2015 10:03 PM (ECrmY)

492 So predictable.

What isn't entirely predictable is the fallout

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 05, 2015 10:03 PM (7RXcs)

493 What capacity is that magazine?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (o3+6R)

*****

Cosmo.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

Mother Jones for the irony. (Stolen, not paid for)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:04 PM (hVdx9)

494 435 420 "Why?"
My interactions with them have led me to trust them.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (VPLuQ)
That's a fair enough answer. I certainly don't trust them as an institution and am extremely circumspect in my dealings with them, rare as they are. Then again, I don't trust anyone in a governmental position of authority.
Posted by: Insomniac
___________________

It's a floor wax and a dessert topping.

Without self-identifying as having any particular occupation, I would like to throw out that law enforcement officers represent a sampling of society. A sampling that more closely resembles the Moron Horde than Hillary Clinton supporters, but a sampling nonetheless.

Please remember that the fork in the road for Totalitarians vs. Everyone Else starts with the question, "Is man perfectible or fallen?"

Posted by: Furious George at October 05, 2015 10:05 PM (HpEBw)

495 pretty sure I wouldnt want us to shoot down a Russian jet at this point in our history. Our CINC is weak. The rot starts at the head. Best troops in the world will fail if they have poor leadership giving them bad plans and hobbling ROEs.

I will not go to war to assuage Obamas vanity and pride

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:05 PM (zOTsN)

496 So apparently CNN is doing a special on "being 13" about teenagers. This is something I don't understand because...we were all teenagers. We don't really need to have the experience explained to us. What do they wish to convey with this groundbreaking documentary?

My guess? Ghey.

Posted by: Lauren at October 05, 2015 10:06 PM (yJUoa)

497 Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

http://tinyurl.com/o4p6w95

Posted by: Paddy at October 05, 2015 10:06 PM (QolCq)

498 "Lifetime exemptions for LEO and NG that prove themselves loyal. "


Ah, family and friends on the lists? Dads, mothers, girlfriends, drinking buddies? Good people they know.


Then? I'm not going after them. I don't give a god damn about any exemption.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:06 PM (o3+6R)

499 At least they are being more honest about this.

My hope is they all try and outdo each other during the Democrat Primary about who can grab the most guns.

Posted by: Kal at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (tl3OH)

500 Bill Ayers as a Cabinet Secretary

If he gets SecEd, this country's fork-level done as soon as the fruits of his indoctrination start coming out.
If it happens, we have no future in this country and it'll be far past high time for leaving.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (HalrA)

501 On D-Day, our guys took advantage of being dropped all over the place by accident.
They simply found the nearest targets and attacked them.
Confused the hell out of the Nazis and tied up a lot of manpower in the process.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (hVdx9)

502 You know a democrat general tried to get me to start World War III in Bosnia.

I told him to get bent and lit a bowl instead.

Posted by: James Blunt at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (LYCUN)

503 I just ate a handful of Vanilla Wafers and am sort of, kind of, gluten intolerant, which, for me, is more glutton intolerant when stressed. Also liberal intolerant. BLM intolerant. I blame Baroque.

I hope that somehow I bite my tongue at the liberal fest this year with in-laws, otherwise known as Christmas. I had an imaginary argument pre-Vanilla Wafers with snotty brother-in-law. One of those passive-aggressive a-holes who, when you counter his liberal biased bs spew, acts all hoity-toity feelings hurt, that he was "only kidding." pfft. I doubt there is enough gin and tonic in the world, but will try to behave.

"Try to behave" is what Daddy said to me anytime I left the house, even into adulthood. Miss that man. xoxo


Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 10:02 PM (LJ4iV)



I just have to tell you that it makes me so happy everytime I read one of your posts. Like a wonderful cocktail you are

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (zOTsN)

504 Expect a entertainment/media push like they did for homosexual marriage.

Posted by: WOPR at October 05, 2015 10:03 PM (LTDSy

Er, the last couple of decades of programming on every major network, so they're way ahead of you.

When is the last time a citizen with a firearm was a good guy?
LEO and Evil Ones are the only folks in America with firearms, according to the MSM.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (kKHcp)

505 On the plus side, I'm looking forward to all of those $150 million Hollywood blockbusters where the action heroes engage in heart to heart talks with the 'enemy' and everything turns out dandy.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 10:09 PM (AC0lD)

506
he means shoot down Russian jets.



Things have that wonderful Armageddon theme developing. Thanks, Barry.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 05, 2015 10:09 PM (oVJmc)

507 Thanks for the reminder. Ordered 5 more lowers.

Posted by: 2549 at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (yTiwg)

508 So is JugEars gonna send the FBI and BATFEIEIO to shut down HomeDepot and Lowes for selling Sten submachine gun parts?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur


Modified to accept Glock mags?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (ztOda)

509 If he gets SecEd, this country's fork-level done as soon as the fruits of his indoctrination start coming out.
If it happens, we have no future in this country and it'll be far past high time for leaving.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (HalrA)

*****

By and large, his policies have already done most of the job, without him ever having held the title.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (HFhPd)

510 One of the reasons the left freaks out over more women buying guns than ever is because women have been one of their largest groups that support gun control. Take that away and they really do have no chance of passing GC.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (hVdx9)

511 Oh, and there was a post a few weeks back, maybe a month ago, where the writer basically said "Hey, you want to freaking get rid of guns, stop your bitching and actually try to do it!"


It was a good read.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (AC0lD)

512 "You know a democrat general tried to get me to start World War III in Bosnia."

I'm not one to aver chain-of-command or advocate disobedience, but, sometimes you just see shit coming to you that you simply say "WT Everloving Fcuk" and really can't do.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:11 PM (o3+6R)

513 Oh, am still po'd that one of my brothers sold a certain "lady" little derringer that an uncle had given my aunt. Dammit. Husband is relieved, however. ha.

I may or may not have told the tale of construction next to our old house in Floriduh. Some non-English speaking folks. I started hearing our water, near house being built, used. I came home from shopping hot and tired and mean as a snake. Was reading Internet, which possibly put me in bad mood (hi, Ace) and heard water running AGAIN. I went a bit loco and stomped outside and there was a guy washing his hair/face in hose. I started yapping about water/aqua in a cranky-pants voice and this cracka with an accent way worse than mine said, "I am sorry, Ma'am" and I just felt like hell as he had gotten sand in his eye or something and all the guys seemed nice, no matter their nationality. Ok. So all is well. I thought.

Minutes later I hear, or think I hear (without garage door coming up) someone freaking stealing crap out of my garage freezer. The nerve, don't take my food. I was in laundry room and could see a human's shadow under door pilfering through freezer. Wail, it was my dear husband, returning from a grocery shopping trip. I did not hear garage door open and when doorknob rattled I had a really big, almost full gallon of liquid detergent in one hand ready to hit the freezer thief in the head. I came very close to beaning husband whose immediate statement, post shock, was "This is why you do not have a handgun." pfft

Minutes later I hear

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 05, 2015 10:11 PM (LJ4iV)

514 "understand how difficult it would be"

No you don't. Go in to the inner cities and disarm all the gangsters and killers first. Then I'll go along with your plan.

Posted by: pj at October 05, 2015 10:12 PM (cHuNI)

515 The way this actually works out , is , the fascists end up in control of limited areas in a few cities , ,,,, in the daytime .
In a country this size , with a rifle behind every blade of grass .
They'll end up worrying more about force protection and how to protect the food convoys than collecting arms from the necks .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:12 PM (mP1RE)

516 Why not be honest. The media won't challenge but and they will roll out some celebrities to do ads promoting it that will sway the LIV.

Dark days indeed.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 05, 2015 10:13 PM (/HC6x)

517 Then? I'm not going after them. I don't give a god damn about any exemption.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:06 PM (o3+6R)


Prove themselves loyal.....guess you're off the list!
Good on ya, though.


I'm just about done with this subject. Much of my opinion is non-blog worthy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 05, 2015 10:13 PM (kKHcp)

518 They'll end up worrying more about force protection and how to protect the food convoys than collecting arms from the necks .
Posted by: awkward davies


Food convoys from where?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 10:13 PM (ztOda)

519 By and large, his policies have already done most of the job, without him ever having held the title.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (HFhPd)

True, but the difference is that now they hide it. Filling government with people like him will be when they stop even bothering with the illusion and the hardcore tyranny begins.
I'm thinking Israel. They seem like they're still sane-ish, and we know that God is watching.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:15 PM (HalrA)

520 pretty good zombie movie on, set in Africa, called "The Dead"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:15 PM (zOTsN)

521 Yeah I guess I should have said " black powder shootings in this century". Even DC doesn't regulate black powder like that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 10:15 PM (Lqy/e)

522 They'll end up worrying more about force protection and how to protect the food convoys than collecting arms from the necks .
Posted by: awkward davies

Hate to say this too, but they'll also have to worry about protecting their loved ones too while they're out "collecting."

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:15 PM (C3E0x)

523 I hope I'm wrong, but I think the vast majority of people in this country are sheep. They've been pussified, and I'll bet they'd accept any tyranny, so long as the EBT cards stayed charged up.

I think they only people with any resistance left in 'em are mostly out in the country, and vastly outnumbered. Of course, the pussies all crowded in don't know too much about that country, and how to live in it, so we've got that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 10:16 PM (dvuhZ)

524 we know that God is watching.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party

*puts pants back on*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 10:16 PM (PEFlK)

525 "No man in any free country on earth is bound to call a policeman to defend his home or his life or his person or that of his friends. Under the laws of nature he has the right to stand and fight, and if he is a man he would rather die fighting than to cringe like a coward, and that is what he did...." -- Clarence Darrow, closing arguments, People v Ossian Sweet.

Ossian Sweet was an African-American physician in Detroit who, in 1925, dared to buy a home in an all white neighborhood. Soon after, a mob appeared, determined to burn Sweet and his family out. Sweet and several others defended Sweet's home with their own firearms, killing one in the mob. They were charged with murder, defended by Clarence Darrow, and acquitted.

Posted by: Book Lernt at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (QolCq)

526 If he gets SecEd, this country's fork-level done as soon as the fruits of his indoctrination start coming out.
If it happens, we have no future in this country and it'll be far past high time for leaving.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:07 PM (HalrA)

*****

By and large, his policies have already done most of the job, without him ever having held the title.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (HFhPd)


He'll be the cherry on the Progressive shit sundae...

Posted by: The Marishino Hat at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (vBeA5)

527 Oh, and there was a post a few weeks back, maybe a month ago, where the writer basically said "Hey, you want to freaking get rid of guns, stop your bitching and actually try to do it!"

It was a good read.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (AC0lD)

****

This is my new approach, after reading that piece.

"You want stricter gun laws? Cool. Go all in. Get every bit of support you can and convince your Senators and Reps to lead the charge. Quit whining and commit every bit of political capital you have to the effort.

What? Your Congress Critters won't do that? Huh. Why do you think that is?"

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (HFhPd)

528 Take that away and they really do have no chance of passing GC.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:10 PM (hVdx9)

I think it's good that you think they will "pass" GC!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (ftVQq)

529 "*puts pants back on*"


God knows you. You're not going to fool "It" now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:18 PM (o3+6R)

530 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 05, 2015 10:16 PM (dvuhZ)

Hey, you talking 'bout me?

Posted by: Duh 52% at October 05, 2015 10:19 PM (ftVQq)

531
All the lefties need to do is get enough people to agree that mental
illness is reason enough to keep someone from owning a firearm. So if
you want to own a firearm, you'll need to be certified as not mentally
ill by a doctor of some kind.

Good, common sense reform, right?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I could weakly argue that common sense would be if someone is too dangerous to be around a weapon they are too dangerous to be around any weapon - they should be in an institution.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 10:19 PM (NaeCR)

532 He'll be the cherry on the Progressive shit sundae...

Posted by: The Marishino Hat at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (vBeA5)


Or basically, the symbol of their permanent victory. A Weatherman terrorist in charge of educating the future generations?

If that happens, it's a sign that America is beyond saving and it's time to save what and who you can.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:19 PM (HalrA)

533 518 , Why from all the little hobby farms in Vermont and Connecticut . I doubt they'd have any trouble feeding everyone in the northeastern corridor , right ?

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:20 PM (mP1RE)

534 Gun confiscation wouldn't be that hard.

Shut down the bank accounts of everyone who is on record as having a gun and take their kids away.

Raid the records of every single gun store and gunsmith.

Get infomants.

Do a bid time raid on self-sufficient type and hope it goes bad. Use the MSM to convince people that there X-tian theorat milita terrorist types require the surrender of all Constitutional rights.

Use the escalating violence to justify even more slaughter and invasion of personal privacy.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 05, 2015 10:20 PM (vBeA5)

535
They'll end up worrying more about force protection and how to protect the food convoys than collecting arms from the necks .
Posted by: awkward davies

Food convoys from where?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 10:13 PM (ztOda)








From the corporate farms. A lot of farming is by corporations now. Hell, 30 years ago the left was caterwauling about the demise of the family farmer (remember FarmAid?). Funny how in the same breath, the leftists will sputter hatefully about how that same farmer is a redneck, gun-totin', Christian reactionary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (o98Jz)

536 "Much of my opinion is non-blog worthy."


Me too. The art of "holding the tongue" is a daring one.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (o3+6R)

537 I could weakly argue that common sense would be if
someone is too dangerous to be around a weapon they are too dangerous to
be around any weapon - they should be in an institution.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 10:19 PM (NaeCR)

Agreed! Bring back the institutions! We can reform them for modern standards of care, but they have to be there, because turning out the crazy people to live in the streets or forcing them on their relatives does not work, has not worked, and is the worst sort of Leftist wishful thinking.
The solution was worse than the problem.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (HalrA)

538 I think the logic goes "If you are crazy enough to want a gun you are too crazy to have one".

Posted by: freaked at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (BO/km)

539 They could repeal the Second Amendment, but they
could never enforce an actual ban. Local sheriffs would refuse to
enforce it. If lefties tried to get the military involved, they would
face a mutiny. Most enlisted military are conservative, and a lot of
them own firearms.

Posted by: Mike at October 05, 2015 09:49 PM (c056A)


Restrictions on ammo storage and "hoarding", restrictions on lead ammo, restrictions on powder, requiring registration of firearms, restriction on storage, followed by licensing, followed by outlawing ARSENALS, limits on licenses allowed to be issued, squeal on your parent/neighbor days, open searches of houses if you ever bought a firearm on paper and might own a non-registered one, night-time raids on dangerous ARSENAL owners, daytime warrant searches while they know you are away...
And if they find something else that isn't right - say mis-labled pesticide products, or left over vicodin, you are going down for a DEQ penalty or a drug rap instead.

Eventually only the rich, and politically connected can fight that sort of thing off.

These are my nightmares, if you ever wonder why I don't sleep so good sometimes.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (3pRHP)

540 The depressing thing is, if Bill Ayers really was nominated for Secretary of Education, he would probably be confirmed by a lopsided vote.

Does anybody seriously doubt that?

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (sdi6R)

541 Blano , that's right , ugly 4G war .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (mP1RE)

542 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:17 PM (HFhPd)


Yeah! Exactly - that was the piece. And that needs to be repeated over and over.



And also, I'd like to see armed college girls stating that they need weapons to prevent the rape fever on campus. "Before I brought my weapon to school, I used to get raped every week at college..."

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (AC0lD)

543 @534 . . . Matt Bracken, "What I Saw At The Coup"

It won't go as smoothly for the grabbers as you posit.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (Nj2wY)

544 I think it's cute that this guy thinks a mass buyback would make any sort of dent in privately owned firearms.


Agent #1- "What'd we get?"

Agent #2- "Three Saturday Night specials, a .410 shotgun with a broken stock and two flintlocks."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 05, 2015 10:23 PM (NeFrd)

545 Ha! You think we're going to have politicians pass laws to ban guns? You're so naÔve. Obviously, this is a job for unelected bureaucrats to regulate into existence. "Lead is bad for the environment" -EPA "Guns need to be filed on your taxes" -IRS "We can't help flood victims if they own a firearm" -FEMA "Any (white) person with a firearm is guilty -DOJ

Posted by: the insidious left at October 05, 2015 10:23 PM (PEFlK)

546 I think it's good that you think they will "pass" GC!


Posted by: Hrothgar
****

It would force them to use alternative means which the current SC makeup has prevented.
Or in other words, extra-legal stuff which would surely end up in bloodshed.
The problem is we are talking about the left. They are incapable of facing reality. They truly believe they could try to forcibly take away guns and not suffer any consequences themselves.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:23 PM (hVdx9)

547 Use the escalating violence to justify even more slaughter and invasion of personal privacy.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 05, 2015 10:20 PM (vBeA5)


I'm not sure how much stomach the left would have in them after the first 100 Beslans in liberal gun-free institutions.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (AC0lD)

548 The country is strong because of the vets who own and carry and will protect us even when retired. Now Obama has taken many gun rights away from the vets...its a start but eventually we will all be precluded from owning.
http://tinyurl.com/ospgem8


Posted by: bossybarb at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (dwT/R)

549 "Shut down the bank accounts of everyone who is on record as having a gun and take their kids away."

You severely underestimate the realities.

Case in point. I have cash, survival gear, and children. You take them from me, thanks. Now not only am I in the ultimate position of moral authority, I don't have to get them to safety. I'm instantly free to fight. First targets? Child Protective Services.

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (zaVwL)

550 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (o98Jz)

Then they realized that ADM, Conagra, etc. are willing to make really big campaign "donations", and suddenly the need for the family farm was re-evaluated!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (ftVQq)

551 537 I could weakly argue that common sense would be if
someone is too dangerous to be around a weapon they are too dangerous to
be around any weapon - they should be in an institution.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 10:19 PM (NaeCR)

Agreed! Bring back the institutions! We can reform them for modern standards of care, but they have to be there, because turning out the crazy people to live in the streets or forcing them on their relatives does not work, has not worked, and is the worst sort of Leftist wishful thinking.
The solution was worse than the problem.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (HalrA)

Smashing idea! Anyone who speaks out against the state or wants to own a gun is clearly insane!

Posted by: Joe Stalin at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (kpqmD)

552 "Do a bid time raid on self-sufficient type and hope it goes bad. Use the MSM to convince people that there X-tian theorat milita terrorist types require the surrender of all Constitutional rights. "



Hat, it would take every active duty member, every Reservist, every NG, every local/state/Federal officer of any/and all sort to even make a small dent.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:26 PM (o3+6R)

553 They truly believe they could try to forcibly take away guns and not suffer any consequences themselves.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:23 PM (hVdx9)


That just makes it scarier, they are completely disconnected from reality on many issues!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 10:26 PM (ftVQq)

554 think it's cute that this guy thinks a mass buyback would make any sort of dent in privately owned firearms.


Agent #1- "What'd we get?"

Agent #2- "Three Saturday Night specials, a .410 shotgun with a broken stock and two flintlocks."


Wasn't there a guy who started making, quite legally, improvised guns and then turning them in for the money. Made a tidy sum from his "art," I believe.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 10:26 PM (bZ7mE)

555 All the lefties need to do is get enough people to agree that mental illness is reason enough to keep someone from owning a firearm.

And can't we all agree that wanting a firearm is a sign of mental illness?

Posted by: Teh Left at October 05, 2015 10:27 PM (+c55T)

556 @534 . . . Matt Bracken, "What I Saw At The Coup"

It won't go as smoothly for the grabbers as you posit.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (Nj2wY)


Bracken is an optimist.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 05, 2015 10:27 PM (vBeA5)

557 Food convoys from where?

Posted by: Jean at October 05, 2015 10:13 PM (ztOda)

From the corporate farms. A lot of farming is by corporations now. Hell, 30 years ago the left was caterwauling about the demise of the family farmer (remember FarmAid?). Funny how in the same breath, the leftists will sputter hatefully about how that same farmer is a redneck, gun-totin', Christian reactionary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 05, 2015 10:21 PM (o98Jz)

Those corporate farms are mostly out well away from the city and surrounded by said bitter clingers. Who will guard the farms? The tractor drivers? Who will guard the travel routes? How will they protect all routes?

The Empire can win in the short run, but in the long run it can't hold much ground outside the cities. Destroy the corporate farms and starve the cities to death.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:27 PM (C3E0x)

558 Posted by: Teh Left

I covered that, read the whole post.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 05, 2015 10:28 PM (YJmuy)

559 Yeah, "gun free zones" have worked out so well that we should make the entire country one...

dip shits.

Posted by: MMM at October 05, 2015 10:28 PM (mwcEF)

560 Smashing idea! Anyone who speaks out against the state or wants to own a gun is clearly insane!

Posted by: Joe Stalin at October 05, 2015 10:24 PM (kpqmD)


Yes, but THIS time we'll have the right people in charge and all will go swimmingly!

Posted by: B Sanders at October 05, 2015 10:28 PM (ftVQq)

561 That just makes it scarier, they are completely disconnected from reality on many issues!


Posted by: Hrothgar
****

Agreed. It's one reason why they think letting Iran get nukes is no big deal.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:29 PM (hVdx9)

562 it's cute that this guy thinks a mass buyback would make any sort of dent in privately owned firearms.

With the gov't legalizing and encouraging the fencing of stolen goods, you'll get more stolen goods.

Posted by: t-bird at October 05, 2015 10:29 PM (+c55T)

563 Didn't Obama do like 10 EOs after Sandy Hook? It was all bullshit having to do with studies of this and that and funding for programs. It was all show to appease the left.

If they couldn't do anything after Sandy Hook, they won't do shit now.

Dems still do win elections in places like Montana, The Dakotas, etc because while they are socialists, they still kinda sorta pretend to be OK with guns. And the rubes believe them. But if Obama goes all in with an EO that actually does something, those Dems are gone. And I don't think Obama wants to fuck up the Dem party that badly.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 10:30 PM (D/hUK)

564 Evening all.

Back from Portsmouth. Wrote, reviewed, ranked,corrected, laughed at, moaned at, and finished 60 Fitreps

If you like your gun, you better hide your gun from the Government?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:30 PM (DUoqb)

565 Time to revisit this, I think, at The Federalist.

"The Revenge Of The Lost Boys"

'Western societies are producing more and more Lost Boys, the fail-to-launch young men who carry dangerous social grudges.'

Most excellent article.

Teaser:
"This is not a novel observation, but it’s worth remembering the important role sex and masculine identity—or the lack of one—play in the life of dysfunctional young men. In many cases, these man-boys are confused about their sexuality and frustrated by their own social awkwardness, and seek to compensate for it. They turn into what German writer Hans Enzensberger called “the radicalized losers,” the unsuccessful males who channel their blunted male social impulses toward destruction."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nqcbf8a

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 05, 2015 10:31 PM (9mTYi)

566 It won't go as smoothly for the grabbers as you posit.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 10:22 PM (Nj2wY)

Bracken is an optimist.

Posted by: The Gun Hat
****

I could see foreigners coming in to do security duties for American traitor scum if the pay is good enough.
Also, the story only involved small arms. I think we'd see many IEDs used.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:31 PM (hVdx9)

567 Well Hat , that'd work , short term . You take my family away and my small bank account and don't kill me , then , well , there goes my 'civilized' restraint . Of course you have to get my extended family at the same time . My cousins and I have been hunting together for 40 yrs .Fuck with them and the balloon goes up as well . I can do the tribal thing too . It ain't just for Afghans .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:31 PM (mP1RE)

568 Destroy the corporate farms and starve the cities to death.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:27 PM (C3E0x)




Please. At this point, the cities would collapse inside of 24 hours if they lost their wi-fi.

Posted by: Phinn at October 05, 2015 10:32 PM (DLUnW)

569 No you don't. Go in to the inner cities and disarm all the gangsters and killers first. Then I'll go along with your plan.


Posted by: pj at October 05, 2015 10:12 PM (cHuNI)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No can-do -- disparate impact.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 05, 2015 10:32 PM (NaeCR)

570 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:29 PM (hVdx9)

And being certain that an influx of illegal "refugees" from all the hell-holes of the world will not unalterably degrade the standard of living for their own children and grand-children.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 05, 2015 10:32 PM (ftVQq)

571 I say, go mobile.

A la Rat Patrol? I'm in!

Posted by: t-bird at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (J3phO)

572 This post ruins Ace's All Hillary All Day pattern.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nonsensically at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (TOOCF)

573 One more time! Ban Democrats from owning guns--they think the only reason anyone would want to own a gun is to use it to murder.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (PEFlK)

574 @549 - amen, brother. You nailed the only things that I worry about on sleepless nights. Take that away?

Wolverines, bitches.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (Nj2wY)

575 Because the total prohibition of recreational drugs has worked so well the DNC is going to start a War on Guns.

Good Lord these people make no qualms about using the Bill of Rights for toilet paper when it suits them.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (A1Dcl)

576 Let Mr. Hiatt start his confiscating in the black areas of Chicago.

Posted by: CMU VET at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (ejB0r)

577 The only War Fredo is winning, is the War on Cops

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (DUoqb)

578 They truly believe they could try to forcibly take away guns and not suffer any consequences themselves.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:23 PM (hVdx9)


I reposted an old former sidebar link in the morning thread earlier (http://tinyurl.com/ody8czg), a long one where the author pretty much analyzed the entire Leftist mind.




Yes, they do think they won't suffer any consequences. In their bullshit wonderland, effect does not follow cause in the political sphere. When there are predictable effects for their actions, it'll whip them into a hateful, frothing lather that will enable them to do *anything* with the blessing of their warped consciences.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (HalrA)

579

Bostons buy back program brought in 1 (one) gun!

hah!

Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:34 PM (zOTsN)

580 Well Hat , that'd work , short term . You take my family away and my small bank account and don't kill me , then , well , there goes my 'civilized' restraint . Of course you have to get my extended family at the same time . My cousins and I have been hunting together for 40 yrs .Fuck with them and the balloon goes up as well . I can do the tribal thing too . It ain't just for Afghans .
Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:31 PM (mP1RE)


I'd venture that for most people, who are not in a position to go American Mujadeen, that not only would the guns be handed over, but a list of everyone one they know to own guns would be too.

As for those who can go all "Afghani", there will be more than enough urban yutes who will serve as cannon foddor.

Win-win for the Leftist elite.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 05, 2015 10:35 PM (vBeA5)

581 Seattle gun buyback turned into a gun show:

http://dcxposed.com/2013/01/27/seattle-gun-buyback-gets-jacked-turns-into-a-damn-gun-show-lol/

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 10:35 PM (D/hUK)

582 So, anyways, I find for some reason foreign press has better reporting than anything the MFM does, in spite of the slant

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nhkkfph

Posted by: Kindltot at October 05, 2015 10:35 PM (3pRHP)

583 "Destroy the corporate farms and starve the cities to death."

Most company farms are in the midwest or plains. Long road trips to make. Once locals, employees with knowledge of schedules and shipments know what's up, no food will leave. Cities will die away quick.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:36 PM (o3+6R)

584 Bostons buy back program brought in 1 (one) gun!

hah!
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:34 PM (zOTsN)

Probably Whitey Bulger's

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:36 PM (DUoqb)

585 577
The only War Fredo is winning, is the War on Cops

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:33 PM (DUoqb)

And the war on America.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:36 PM (HalrA)

586 Once they come for our guns, the Chinese and/or Russians will come for us. Bad plan all around.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 10:37 PM (PEFlK)

587 I think I may have heard here at the HQ but a wiser person than me said, "I saw a movie once where only the military and the police had firearms, it was called Schindler's List"

Posted by: Bob in Houston at October 05, 2015 10:37 PM (b7AU3)

588 Dems still do win elections in places like Montana, The Dakotas, etc because while they are socialists, they still kinda sorta pretend to be OK with guns. And the rubes believe them. But if Obama goes all in with an EO that actually does something, those Dems are gone. And I don't think Obama wants to fuck up the Dem party that badly.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 05, 2015 10:30 PM (D/hUK)


I could see Obama doing it because: A). It's all about him, so f**k the other Dems; B). He so full of himself that he's sure that it'll be a swimming success; and C) DERP.

Posted by: The Half-Cocked Hat at October 05, 2015 10:38 PM (vBeA5)

589 No you don't. Go in to the inner cities and disarm all the gangsters and killers first. Then I'll go along with your plan.

Posted by: pj at October 05, 2015 10:12 PM (cHuNI)

Dats rayciss yo!!!

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (C3E0x)

590 Yes, they do think they won't suffer any consequences. In their bullshit wonderland, effect does not follow cause in the political sphere. When there are predictable effects for their actions, it'll whip them into a hateful, frothing lather that will enable them to do *anything* with the blessing of their warped consciences.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
****

Hell, they are already talking about throwing us in jail/camps, letting us die, or even killing us outright when it comes to "climate change".

I see the same on guns. Yet they are convinced they are wonderful people.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (hVdx9)

591 One nice thing about being on Duty is that AT LEAST the MA at the gate has a weapon and most of us AT LEAST have weapons at home. And I "Suspect" a few of the members of my Unit, who have carry permits also have one on them even though it is not permitted.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (DUoqb)

592 Bostons buy back program brought in 1 (one) gun!

hah!
Posted by: ThunderB at October 05, 2015 10:34 PM (zOTsN)

****

An enterprising individual could set up shop by most of these locations and make a fortune by doubling the turn in price offered for guns by doing private transactions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (HFhPd)

593 "I'd venture that for most people, who are not in a position to go American Mujadeen, that not only would the guns be handed over, but a list of everyone one they know to own guns would be too. "



Hat, I love ya, but no. Most here cannot name the gun-owners they know. The ones they do are family and you depend on them. The ones they don't know don't tell for reasons.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (o3+6R)

594
This is MY country. Our family has a military history dating back to the Revolutionary War.

I will never EVER be ashamed of Her--any shame lies on the shoulders of those who would do her harm.

Like so many of you here, I took an oath, one with no expiration date. I will do my utmost to fulfill that oath at ALL times.

I still believe that our problems can be solved through the political process, but should that be proved impossible, then I mean to redefine the term "your worst nightmare" to my enemies.

And I doubt I'll be alone.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (jeCnD)

595 A fact that may put things in perspective: The FBI has ~14,000 special agents.

Yes, they'll supplement with local LE and even the military, but its a very small workforce to try to bring down >50,000,000 gun owners.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (oVJmc)

596 National divorce, let those areas leave the Constitutional United States and become the Tyranny of Soviet America they always masturbated over becoming.Disarm them, and sell them food at whatever price we choose. Let them suffer in their deathpit charnel metropoli until they live their own inevitable nightmares, then refuse to help.

Cut them out of our nation because of the fact they are -at best- cancer.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (RXFQJ)

597 Most company farms are in the midwest or plains.
Long road trips to make. Once locals, employees with knowledge of
schedules and shipments know what's up, no food will leave. Cities will
die away quick.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:36 PM (o3+6R)

Take out half a dozen or so of the lefty congressmen pushing this agenda and it will die out quickly.
This crap might work in the cities, but it's just a tad different in flyover country.

Posted by: Sixkiller at October 05, 2015 10:41 PM (bfpzm)

598 587 I think I may have heard here at the HQ but a wiser person than me said, "I saw a movie once where only the military and the police had firearms, it was called Schindler's List"
Posted by: Bob in Houston at October 05, 2015 10:37 PM (b7AU3)


That would make an excellent tweet, for those who are on Twitter. (I'm not.)

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

599 Hell, they are already talking about throwing us in
jail/camps, letting us die, or even killing us outright when it comes to
"climate change".



I see the same on guns. Yet they are convinced they are wonderful people.



Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (hVdx9)

The article I linked explains how all of that comes about. They can't process opposition to them as being anything other but racism/bigotry/everything they consider evil wrapped up in one. Their anti-philosophy doesn't have any other way of explaining opposition to their groupthink.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:41 PM (HalrA)

600 @ The Gun Hat.

You're simply wrong. And that you think that so many right-wing Americans are spineless cowards stinks of projection. You can't imagine fighting back, so no one will? Nonsense.

Need evidence? The Oathkeepers. They massed up, armed and ready, and stared down the feds over an unlawful land grab.

Mandatory gun confiscation will be that x 1000.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 10:42 PM (zaVwL)

601 Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (jeCnD)


Don't worry gramps, you ain't alone

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:42 PM (DUoqb)

602 An enterprising individual could set up shop by
most of these locations and make a fortune by doubling the turn in price
offered for guns by doing private transactions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:39 PM (HFhPd)

Wouldn't even have to double. Buyback + $20 ought to be enough to get a lot of people to go to you instead.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:44 PM (HalrA)

603 You're simply wrong. And that you think that so many right-wing Americans are spineless cowards stinks of projection.

---

Protecting one's family is cowardice? Mm-kay.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 10:44 PM (PEFlK)

604 Protecting one's family is cowardice? Mm-kay.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 05, 2015 10:44 PM
===============

Well, it's icky.

Posted by: Modern Man at October 05, 2015 10:45 PM (shmSy)

605 Don't worry gramps, you ain't alone

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:42 PM (DUoqb)

Far from it.
Everyone I know owns a rifle/scope combo and is more than proficient with it. That includes country boys and ex-military alike.

Posted by: Sixkiller at October 05, 2015 10:45 PM (bfpzm)

606 Posted by: The Gun Hat at October 05, 2015 10:20 PM (vBeA5)

I think you underestimate the power of armed resistance by a determined citizenry. True enough, such resistance would be sporadic and disorganized at first. At first.

Posted by: troyriser at October 05, 2015 10:45 PM (gJU39)

607 If they start trying this, we need to get someone to sponsor a bill banning depictions of "gun violence" in movies, television and any other media. And we should also start disarming those bureaucracies.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2015 10:47 PM (Lqy/e)

608 And we're just bringing Hat around. Ya'll be easy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:47 PM (o3+6R)

609 You really think the military would obey the Jef? Right.

Posted by: Corona at October 05, 2015 10:47 PM (tWUja)

610 resistance would be sporadic and disorganized at first. At first.
Posted by: troyriser at October 05, 2015 10:45 PM (gJU39)

Shit I'm sorry. You didn't get the memo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:48 PM (DUoqb)

611 Hat , I'll keep playing devils advocate . I live in a typical southern coastal plain . It extends from around Orangeburg to Beaufort . Mostly thick river bottom hardwoods . Swampy , full of bugs and venemous snakes . Now I wouldn't want to take on special ops guys on my turf , I do believe I could keep the Crips , Bloods and MS13 nervous . There's a bunch of us dug in like ticks from Virginia to Texas in areas like that . I like our chances .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:48 PM (mP1RE)

612 The Empire can win in the short run, but in the long run it can't hold much ground outside the cities. Destroy the corporate farms and starve the cities to death.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:27 PM (C3E0x)


You do not even need to destroy them. The employees, who are your friends and neighbors, merely have to follow along with the program.

"Hey Fred, someone told me they are coming to pick up the corn on Friday." "Be a real pity if it disappeared on Wednesday."

"What was all the smoke and noise out be county 23 last Friday?" "I don't know, but there were a bunch of burnt out trucks and some people on foot."

"Honest Director, The Sheriff and his deputies are trying really, really hard to gather up the guns, but all they found was an old single shot shotgun and a box of badly corroded .22's."

"Whatever happened to those 24 agents sent out last week to supervise the confiscations? They never showed up! Heard a lot of shooting out towards Leonardville though."

Posted by: rd at October 05, 2015 10:48 PM (SukjU)

613 The article I linked explains how all of that comes about. They can't process opposition to them as being anything other but racism/bigotry/everything they consider evil wrapped up in one. Their anti-philosophy doesn't have any other way of explaining opposition to their groupthink.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
****

She's stopped blogging, but a psychiatrist by the nic Dr. Sanity pointed out what drives the left is narcissism. They also suffer from pathological denial of reality. Combine those two things and you have some evil, insane people.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (hVdx9)

614 If there is mass resistance, the economy will suffer, taxes wouldn't get collected, etc., etc. Something else to consider....

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (bZ7mE)

615 " If they start trying this, we need to get someone to sponsor a bill banning depictions of "gun violence" in movies, television and any other media. "


Awesome. Awesome.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (o3+6R)

616 I still believe that our problems can be solved through the political process, but should that be proved impossible, then I mean to redefine the term "your worst nightmare" to my enemies.

And I doubt I'll be alone.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 10:40 PM (jeCnD)

You're not alone irongrampa, we just disagree on one thing. This problem CANNOT be solved thru the political process. It's too late. None of the major problems this country has can now be solved through the political process.

The Cold Civil War is already upon us. It's only a matter of time 'til it becomes hot. The sooner people accept there's no political solution, the sooner we can all get this over with.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (C3E0x)

617 "Protecting one's family is cowardice? Mm-kay."

THAT'S how you rationalize kneeling into slavery?

In that case, yes. It is. I guess all those principles of self-government, legitimacy, and natural rights of man you make sure they learn is all bullshit.

'Hey, son. All that stuff I told you, those ideals worth fighting for? I lied. When it comes down to it, accept the yoke.'

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 10:50 PM (zaVwL)

618 Blano,

Agreed.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 05, 2015 10:50 PM (zyIlW)

619 If there is mass resistance, the economy will suffer, taxes wouldn't get collected, etc., etc. Something else to consider....

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (bZ7mE)

That should be happening already.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:50 PM (C3E0x)

620 I live in a typical southern coastal plain . It extends from around Orangeburg to Beaufort . Mostly thick river bottom hardwoods . Swampy , full of bugs and venemous snakes . Now I wouldn't want to take on special ops guys on my turf , I do believe I could keep the Crips , Bloods and MS13 nervous . There's a bunch of us dug in like ticks from Virginia to Texas in areas like that . I like our chances .
Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:48 PM (mP1RE)

Hey do you know if there was much damage at Parris Island and Beaufort?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:51 PM (DUoqb)

621 "If there is mass resistance, the economy will suffer, taxes wouldn't get collected, etc., etc. Something else to consider...."


Economy. Internal politics. National integrity. Taxes.

All. Gone.

Done.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:52 PM (o3+6R)

622

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.



Posted by: Barack Obama at October 05, 2015 10:52 PM (W5DcG)

623 Leftist propaganda arguably killed more than 100 million people last century. I think liberals should have to pass a mental examination before exercising their first amendment rights on FB

Posted by: Jack Galt at October 05, 2015 10:53 PM (qHX1O)

624 She's stopped blogging, but a psychiatrist by
the nic Dr. Sanity pointed out what drives the left is narcissism. They
also suffer from pathological denial of reality. Combine those two
things and you have some evil, insane people.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (hVdx9)

Wright's explanation was similar. It's a Pharisee's stolen pride driving them, and sanctimony is the only thing that can drown out the shame of being liars that also deceive themselves. It's like crack cocaine, they, no matter how much of a fuckup or failure they are, can look down their noses at the most accomplished of people.

Their philosophy starts with an idea that there is no truth, and from there, it can embrace only error. If there is no truth, life is a roulette wheel, and anything that works repeatedly and consistently is cheating and must be punished. IE, Western Civilization. This is why they hate us and everything we stand for.

They are insane and evil.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:53 PM (HalrA)

625 About some of those utopias the left likes to cite
Japan
http://tinyurl.com/Japanese-gangs-still-have-guns
Canada
http://tinyurl.com/canada-still-has-mass-shooting
Germany Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/Germanykill-part-1
Germany Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/Germanykill-part-2
France
http://tinyurl.com/How-soon-we-forget-France
Oh and France Part Duex
http://tinyurl.com/France-Part-Duex
Okay lets try la troisiŤme partie
http://tinyurl.com/France-part-3

Fine lets leave Europe to their murderous impluses to own guns. It is England right? Well in 2010 this happened
http://tinyurl.com/Englands-latest-gun-massacre
Okay fine then England doesn't have the answer. Lets try Oz, well....
http://tinyurl.com/Oz-part-1

Okay that last one was in 2002 but they have fixed it since then right
http://tinyurl.com/Sydneygunmen
Okay well surely they are fixing that now right?
http://tinyurl.com/Sydneypolicetargeted

Oh and between 1996 and 2014 we had the Monash U shootings, a shooting at an abortion clinic, a 2011 gunman that killed three before he was gundown (http://tinyurl.com/Ozfailsagain) and arrested. Oh and the Biker Gangs in Oz were very very busy from 1996 to now. Too many stories to cite, but here is one that happened in Sydney and in a neighborhood near the touristy zone.
http://tinyurl.com/OzBikersshootingeachother

So please for explain which utopia they want to try and emulate? All of these have happened after super restrictive bans were put in place and in the case of Germany only days after the police did an investigation of the owner and declared his storage was good and he was complying with the law.

Posted by: Charles at October 05, 2015 10:53 PM (sdgg8)

626 At least one Iowa pol thinks gun confiscation is just peachy:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pt4v7w9

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 05, 2015 10:53 PM (YJmuy)

627 NGU , I don't think they got hit too hard . More damage inland , especially Columbia . Once again , the helpless tend to be urban .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:54 PM (mP1RE)

628 One nice thing: This mass confiscation will be organized by the same great minds that gave us the Obamacare rollout.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 10:55 PM (bZ7mE)

629 There is no such thing as a gun-free society. There are only societies where law-abiding citizens are forbidden to own firearms.

Those societies fall into two broad categories:

dictatorships (North Korea, China, Cuba, Russia until very recently), where governments and security forces retain a monopoly on firearms so as to keep the masses under control.

social hellholes, where criminals (and police) are well armed and ordinary citizens are helpless. Most of these have gun homicide rates way higher than the US (Jamaica, Mexico, Venezuela). Venezuela banned private gun ownership in 2012. Since then its gun homicide rate has increased more than 15 per cent. So that really worked.

In any case, eliminating the US's 350 million privately owned firearms is impossible. But the anti-gun bleaters don't really want to do that. In their world, action is not the point--posturing and talk are enough.

Posted by: Erwin at October 05, 2015 10:56 PM (jd0O4)

630 You're simply wrong. And that you think that so many right-wing Americans are spineless cowards stinks of projection. You can't imagine fighting back, so no one will? Nonsense.

Need evidence? The Oathkeepers. They massed up, armed and ready, and stared down the feds over an unlawful land grab.

Mandatory gun confiscation will be that x 1000.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Apostate at October 05, 2015 10:42 PM (zaVwL)


Or, perhaps, you are being a bit pollyannish?

Cut off bank accounts, and demand the guns be turned over.

Doesn't work? Get people fired because companies don't want to employee "terrorist nuts".

And just keep tightening the screw: Utilities, taking of off-house assets, &c.

Finally children's welfare agencies will get involved.

They can do this without firing a shot, and would mean that a family either has to give in, or become revolutionaries. Most people are not in the position where they could become full time revolutionaries and still keep their families feed, clothed, sheltered, and safe.

Yes, there are quite a few who will stand up. But I doubt that it'll all come down to police forces being whitled away by a few up-frond SWAT raids and political elites being picked off by assassination. Target a fe of the more outspoken gunners, make it look like they are X-tian militia monsters, and then get the MSM to convinve the public that the surrendering of their rights is necissary to protect them from these terrorist boogie-man. Throw in some urban thugs and things will get messy... and that protrayal will be determined by the gun-grabbing left.

Posted by: The Half-Cocked Hat at October 05, 2015 10:57 PM (vBeA5)

631 NGU , I don't think they got hit too hard . More damage inland , especially Columbia . Once again , the helpless tend to be urban .
Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:54 PM (mP1RE)

Thanks. Love that area

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 05, 2015 10:57 PM (DUoqb)

632 616
You're not alone irongrampa, we just disagree on one thing. This problem CANNOT be solved thru the political process. It's too late. None of the major problems this country has can now be solved through the political process.

The Cold Civil War is already upon us. It's only a matter of time 'til it becomes hot. The sooner people accept there's no political solution, the sooner we can all get this over with.
Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:49 PM (C3E0x)


I don't remember when I first saw the phrase "Cold Civil War". I think it was after the 2000 election, which the Left tried to steal but was thwarted.

The Cold Civil War has been going on for about 15 years now. It's only a matter of time until it turns hot.

That it will turn hot, I have no doubt. I've known that since 2008. When you have 52% of the population trying to forcibly ram Communism down the throats of the other 48%, it can only end in bloodshed.

So let's get on with it. Each day we hesitate, we get weaker and the enemy gets stronger.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 10:58 PM (sdi6R)

633 That should be happening already.
Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 10:50 PM (C3E0x)

****

It is. Much more than any Govt. entity is aware of. Growing every day.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at October 05, 2015 10:58 PM (HFhPd)

634 It's been a fight. Let's do more tomorrow.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 05, 2015 10:59 PM (o3+6R)

635 In their world, action is not the point--posturing and talk are enough.


Posted by: Erwin at October 05, 2015 10:56 PM (jd0O4)


Posturing and talk reinforces the social cues, shows them for being "good" as their antiphilosophy defines it, and gives them a small hit of their Pharisee's pride.
But there always comes a point when the diminishing returns any junkie faces makes them start trying to translate talk into action.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 10:59 PM (HalrA)

636 Oh and for those that say it can't happen. Remember Katrina?
http://tinyurl.com/rememberkatrinagrabs


I am almost sure that when the government tells is officers they have a choice of loss of jobs or doing what the law says?

Posted by: Charles at October 05, 2015 11:00 PM (sdgg8)

637 Me too NGU .
I'm gonna' rack out folks .
Watch yer topknot .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 11:00 PM (mP1RE)

638 Mark my words, they will eventually make a push for confiscation. If not this time, soon. The pressure is building, and the Left's junkies are getting antsy for their next fix of the warm and fuzzies.

And that'll be the flashpoint. God help us all.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 05, 2015 11:02 PM (HalrA)

639 There's a bunch of us dug in like ticks from Virginia to Texas in areas like that . I like our chances .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 05, 2015 10:48 PM (mP1RE)


Kept isolated and taken out one by one?

Even if pockets survive, the confiscation will be deep and resistance will be used as an excuse to permanently supress all other rights.

Even if they can't completely win, I don't think they could be easily defeated. Heck, just imagine the Left bringing U.N. peacekeepers.

Even if the state could be toppled, do you really thing that other countries won't gobble up big chunks of the U.S. when they have the chance?

Posted by: The Half-Cocked Hat at October 05, 2015 11:04 PM (vBeA5)

640 Time for me too. All the discussion still doesn't change the fact there's leaf removal to be done tomorrow.


Remember, y'all, we are AMERICANS, so the head is held HIGH.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 05, 2015 11:05 PM (jeCnD)

641 Mark my words, they will eventually make a push for confiscation. If not this time, soon. The pressure is building, and the Left's junkies are getting antsy for their next fix of the warm and fuzzies.


The Left seems to be getting more and more frantic and hysterical by the day. Don't know if they just feel emboldened or if they are afraid of what changes the future may hold and think that they have to act now or lose the opportunity.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 05, 2015 11:06 PM (bZ7mE)

642 Throw in some urban thugs and things will get messy... and that protrayal will be determined by the gun-grabbing left.

Posted by: The Half-Cocked Hat at October 05, 2015 10:57 PM (vBeA5)


You're imagine a possible scenario out of a virtually infinite number of positive scenarios. There were a (very) few prior to the Civil War--such as Sherman--who saw right away what the war would be like, how long it would last, how fierce and bloody it would be. People thought he was crazy.

I'm no prophet, so like Sherman I can only guess, but I'm guessing the Left will fold fairly quickly when confronted. I mean, look at their vision of the ideal man, The Modern Man. Does that Modern Man look like someone ready to do or die for his cause?

Every time the Left takes a forward step on their path to socialist Utopia, they do it on tiptoes and stop from time to time to pause and listen, hoping they don't wake the bear.

Time to wake up.

Posted by: troyriser at October 05, 2015 11:06 PM (gJU39)

643 'possible scenarios', sorry.

Posted by: troyriser at October 05, 2015 11:07 PM (gJU39)

644 639
Kept isolated and taken out one by one?

Even if pockets survive, the confiscation will be deep and resistance will be used as an excuse to permanently supress all other rights.

Even if they can't completely win, I don't think they could be easily defeated. Heck, just imagine the Left bringing U.N. peacekeepers.

Even if the state could be toppled, do you really thing that other countries won't gobble up big chunks of the U.S. when they have the chance?
Posted by: The Half-Cocked Hat at October 05, 2015 11:04 PM (vBeA5)


That really sounds like you're saying that our situation is hopeless and the Left has already won. Check and mate.

Posted by: rickl at October 05, 2015 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

645 Yep, time for a lot of people to wake up.

And on that note, I must hit the hay. Goodnight all.

Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 11:09 PM (C3E0x)

646 BTW, there's been an uptick in stabbing murders in Toronto for the past few years so anyone thinking further handgun control will/would end fatal street violence and the like is full of it.

Hi, Charles. I'm a Canadian with several Aussie buddies so cheers, china. Good to see there are other pro-Western conservatives in the Commonwealth (to go along with Tim Blair).

Posted by: andycanuck at October 05, 2015 11:09 PM (gmaUh)

647 ONT.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 05, 2015 11:10 PM (gmaUh)

648 Heck, just imagine the Left bringing U.N. peacekeepers.
****

The guys who won't fight? Yeah, so scared of them.
You have a point about other countries taking advantage of the situation.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 05, 2015 11:12 PM (hVdx9)

649 ONT

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 05, 2015 11:13 PM (kKHcp)

650 Ban any man who is stronger than a woman, that will fix the violence problem.

Posted by: Jack at October 06, 2015 12:08 AM (53CCM)

651 This Hiatt jagoff makes no sense.

Posted by: Tronald Dump at October 06, 2015 12:25 AM (u9UgT)

652 Failed liberal parenting tends to create a lot of these monsters, sadly. The shooter's idiot liberal father was nonplussed by the whole thing and just calmly blamed guns, and not the son he raised with his brilliant liberalism.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at October 06, 2015 12:38 AM (COpZ4)

653 How many of Obama or Hillary's goons are willing to get shot taking my guns? None? How about Obama or Hillary themselves? No? That's why i sleep pretty well at night. My gun's still loaded and close, though.

Posted by: hurricane567 at October 06, 2015 12:44 AM (5fWje)

654 Lets see them get all those easily confiscated illegal guns from the homies in Chicago and Baltimore first, where they are already illegal.

I suspect after they bury their dead and lick their wounds they might have second thoughts about coming after the legally owned guns from citizens waiting to see their patrols to give them an education in sniper and ambush training.

I will be proactive if they indeed do want to ignore the Bill of Rights, I do not want to live in a slave society and I'm at that age where I don't give a shit about dying.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at October 06, 2015 01:16 AM (4pjhs)

655 481 This may sound awful, but I've identified a brother that, when the time comes, is on his own. He can stay in his suburban Detroit shithole and rot.
Posted by: Blano at October 05, 2015 09:43 PM (C3E0x)

Same here. Went completely Daily Show on the NRA and is posting really stupid, long debunked crap on FB. I slaughtered him with fact, shut him up completely and I doubt I'll ever talk to him, face to face, ever again.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at October 05, 2015 10:00 PM (7rAXc)


Last few days I have been telling everyone who espouses the gun control line that if they want to do it, do it. Get your Senator/Rep to introduce an amendment to repeal the 2nd, and then get the states to ratify it. Their answers are always teh sadz stories.

Those fuckers can only nut up when the barista screws up their double mocha venti latte or something.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 06, 2015 01:44 AM (Z7G74)

656 Does anyone remember a link from some months ago about how the left was trying to stifle dissent and how it lead to the whole lot of them being "taken care of".

I used to have it bookmarked, but I had to do a reinstall a few months ago and lost all my links.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 06, 2015 01:55 AM (Z7G74)

657 Yes! We need the government controlling guns. Look at the shining success Fast & Furious was!

Posted by: Hadoop at October 06, 2015 04:54 AM (2X7pN)

658 Prezprissy seeks to make all gun owners criminals, negating the need for house to house confiscation. If he does, we will be notified, lose the right to vote, and face jail time if we do not comply...I'm just sayin'

Posted by: OhHell at October 06, 2015 06:20 AM (Lyzpw)

659 They don't really want a gun free society, they want OUR guns. They fully intend that their enforcers would remain armed.

Besides if their side didn't keep their weapons, HTF do they think they could ever disarm us?
MM

Posted by: MMin Lamesa at October 06, 2015 08:00 AM (/cC+u)

660 we're gonna need more lamp posts

Posted by: x at October 06, 2015 09:30 AM (57fhp)

661 <i>"Harry Reid claimed to be pro-Second Amendment for his whole career --
but now that he's retiring, there's no more reason to maintain that
fiction"</i>

I can deal with the NRA being a single-issue organization, even when it galls me to see them support scum like Reid. Organizations that scatter their lobbying across a variety of causes, even good ones, are less effective.

But if the NRA has any dirt on Harry saved up, now is the time to see that it gets out, <i>pour encourager les autres</i>.

Posted by: craig at October 06, 2015 09:40 AM (Q5asM)

662 @653
The ways of modern tyranny are more subtle and effective.
They will make detailed disclosure of gun ownership mandatory in all healthcare, routine DMV registrations, etc so there will be de facto registration of all guns, under criminal penalty.

Then you willl have to fill out your semi-weekly 30 page Federal Form XYZ-4677(i) detailing the current disposition, location, state of repair, serial number, magazine capacity, grip type etc of all firearms, along with the filing fee, and companion Federal Form ZZJ-1212 for all ammo.

And of course you will need certification from your physician that you have never sought mental health counseling, are under no physical or mental disability, and certification from your State that you are engaged in no marital law proceedings, and have never been convicted of anything other than a parking fine (because we can't have "crazy criminals running around the children with guns" of course).

Failing to file any of the forms on time, or required fees, or insurance surcharges will of course result in the immediate revocation of your "privilege" of gun ownership because "common sense regulation" of course, along with cancellation of your health insurance and revocation of your drivers license, and suspension of your car registration. Of course anyone attempting to go through a toll booth with a Federal Firearms suspended registation is guilty of a felony, which of course will debar you from firearm ownership for life, because common sense.

Get the picture?

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 06, 2015 10:00 AM (k8tEg)

663 I hadn't read much up thread before posting, and I wish it weren't so, though I see many others (e.g. Half cocked hat) have reached similar conclusions

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 06, 2015 10:08 AM (k8tEg)

664 I'm thinking we should tie the Second Amendment to the First. Start imprisoning the advocates of gun confiscation. Or just hang them.

I gotta laugh at the glowing reports of countries that ban guns. In fact, the US is a very safe country in comparison, so long as one excludes a few cities, all of which are gun-free.

Posted by: skzion at October 06, 2015 11:23 AM (BVwtW)

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