Morning Thread (9-17-2015)

Go away! Debatin'!

Posted by: Andy at 06:31 AM

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1 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 17, 2015 06:33 AM (u82oZ)

2 Play nice with each other. Off to work.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 17, 2015 06:33 AM (u82oZ)

3 First ? Me?

Posted by: Nathan at September 17, 2015 06:33 AM (QolCq)

4 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, September 17, 2015. On this day in 2014 Trey Gowdy opened the Republican dominated Benghazi hearings. He used to be my hero, but after one year with no results other than more hot air I am disappointed. Scankles has drug her heals for a year and she has not been hit with a contempt charge.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

5 Content...
Finally!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 17, 2015 06:35 AM (VPLuQ)

6 Fox's take on round 2 of the debate. I didn't watch any of that as I got so disgusted at round 1 I killed the video. Note how in this article Fox is subtly pushing Jebbie The Hutt.

http://fxn.ws/1W4f7Ez

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

7 8.3 earthquake off the coast of Chili. Folks, that's a big earthquake.

http://fxn.ws/1QH6MDP

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

8 Proof positive that the Nobel Peace Prize is political horseshit that has nothing to do with how the recipient encouraged and supported peace. In this case it was given to "strengthen the recipient". IOW it is a joke.

STAVANGER, Norway: In a break with Nobel tradition, the former secretary of the Nobel Peace Prize committee says the 2009 award to President Barack Obama failed to live up to the panel's expectations.

http://fxn.ws/1YeR9sc

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

9 Even Fox now is admitting that there is a massive crime wave being caused by the flood of illegals from South of the border.

http://fxn.ws/1JcPoAw

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

10 Another huge foreign policy win for Ocrapweasel. After months of effort and millions spent, only 4 or 5 people are on the battlefield from the project to fight ISIS. Of course Grahamnesty and McShitty want to put US troops back into the war. (other sites say we have spent $500M on this worthless crap)

http://fxn.ws/1P1zvlO

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

11 As expected, Whataburger has fired the employee who refused to serve police officers.

http://fxn.ws/1NEQxc0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

12 Jim Henson is rolling over in his grave. The new ABC Muppets show will delve into shock value risqué subjects. TV truly is a wasteland.

http://fxn.ws/1YeSpf3

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

13 Drudge is conducting a poll for who you think won the debates. Unfortunately "none of the above" is not on the checklist.

http://bit.ly/1QHPBSO

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

14 The DNC/Scankles are still not willing to conduct debates.

http://politi.co/1UUW9TI

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

15 Moonbeam is looking at getting into the race. Why not? They have a commie and a felon in their race, let's add a crackpot.

http://tws.io/1QjBfHq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

16 The IRS has revoked the non-profit status of a veterans group that hosted a speech by Trump. They are still a political organization using tax policy as a weapon. The unions, the NAACP, and a host of other Democrat political groups retain their status and do not even get audited. More proof that we should go to a simple flat tax on ALL forms of income at all levels.

http://apne.ws/1Lz3huQ

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

17 Now here was a snappy response from Jindal.

http://bit.ly/1OgILFi

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:38 AM (t2KH5)

18 More evidence that AGW is a fraud. Antarctic sea ice has hit a 35 year high. Looks like there is more evidence that we are entering an ice age than there is for AGW.

http://bit.ly/1FOTRcI

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:38 AM (t2KH5)

19 Obama blames Americans for his shitty economy.

http://bit.ly/1ii5oM4

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:38 AM (t2KH5)

20 Question from HH to Jebbie the Hutt and his response.

Here is Hewitt's exact question: If a family member calls and says my child, my brother, my sister is disturbed, ought the state be able to go and get their weapon without a hearing?

Bush's exact response: I think there needs to be hearing, but the fact is, I think we need to encourage that kind of involvement.

That's about the umpteenth hit on him.

http://bit.ly/1iiRDwA

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (t2KH5)

21 Clinton Staffer involved in violation of election laws in NV goes into hiding. She has no worries, the corrupt FEC and DOJ will never prosecute Democrats for election fraud, only Republicans.

http://bit.ly/1LyKH61

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (t2KH5)

22 Recall that debate we had here a few months ago about common core where a lot of us said it was just another way for the feds to take over education? Remember how one individual said it was the best thing since sliced bread and it was all State controlled?

Well the feds are now admitting that they forced it on schools from the very start.

http://bit.ly/1iyk9eA

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (t2KH5)

23 Heritage pretty much agrees with what some of said on the "clock" BS yesterday. It was classic school system BS and overreaction.

http://dailysign.al/1UWzFww

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (t2KH5)

24 Couldn't sleep at all last night. Too many Red Bulls!

Posted by: El Jeb! at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (o9lmn)

25 Ramirez

http://bit.ly/1QHW0x4

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:40 AM (t2KH5)

26 Nothing worth having on the daily deals.

That's it for today folks. I will be cutting out early today as I have a doctor's appointment.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:40 AM (t2KH5)

27 Vic, here's the mention I saw of Huck commenting on Walkers plan to eliminate all public employee unions. Walker is being mean, basically.

http://bit.ly/1UYI2Nb

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:41 AM (eFRS+)

28 Did you all see me mop the floor with teh Donald? I'm pretty sure I clocked him. Or was that the Red Bull?

Posted by: El Jeb! at September 17, 2015 06:43 AM (o9lmn)

29 Thanks for the news, Vic.

Hope all goes well at the doc's.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 06:44 AM (a31sM)

30 27
Vic, here's the mention I saw of Huck commenting on Walkers plan to
eliminate all public employee unions. Walker is being mean, basically.

http://bit.ly/1UYI2Nb

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:41 AM (eFRS+)

As I said, Huck is a religious liberal.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:45 AM (t2KH5)

31 My tweet to Jake Tapper this morning:

.@jaketapper do you personally dislike @tedcruz or did @CNN tell you to keep cutting him off after 5 seconds at the #CNNDebate?

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 06:45 AM (cbfNE)

32 29
Hope all goes well at the doc's.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 06:44 AM (a31sM)

Should be nothing more than a routine annual visit. In the past it was prelude to scheduling a hospital visit for a colonoscapy followup. But last time he said I should be able to go to every 3 years now and I had one in Feb of this year.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:47 AM (t2KH5)

33 So Carly Fiorina has been declared the winner by the punditerati.

Of course, people did that a week before the debate, so it doesn't mean much.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 17, 2015 06:47 AM (CiLUq)

34 As I said, Huck is a religious liberal.

I'll say one thing in his favor-- at least he isn't smug or sanctimonious about it. Kasich is, and it's his most annoying personal characteristic.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:48 AM (eFRS+)

35 Walker might drop out after this. Which would be too bad coz I like him except for immigration squishiness.

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 06:49 AM (cbfNE)

36

DAY 1,045

418 to go (491 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:50 AM (St6BJ)

37 Kasich is, and it's his most annoying personal characteristic.

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Well, that and his face. His face is annoying too.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:50 AM (eFRS+)

38 16 >> The IRS has revoked the non-profit status of a veterans group that
hosted a speech by Trump. They are still a political organization using
tax policy as a weapon.

Well, there is this little bitty minor problem that that vets group has, namely, that they haven't filed their IRS tax forms for over 3 years. So no one knows how much in donations they have received, nor how they spent any of it.

It's not that I don't agree with your second sentence there, Vic, but this ain't the hill (organization) to die on.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2015 06:50 AM (gyKtp)

39 Did Walker get swamped last night?

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:51 AM (eFRS+)

40
So, anyone care to share the REAL debate results, analysis?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:52 AM (St6BJ)

41 35
Walker might drop out after this. Which would be too bad coz I like him except for immigration squishiness.

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 06:49 AM (cbfNE)

I am beginning to think that they all are squishy on it except Trump and maybe Cruz. The RNCe wants amnesty and more despite 1M a year now and 30K illegals a day

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

42 37 Kasich is, and it's his most annoying personal characteristic.

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Well, that and his face. His face is annoying too.
Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:50 AM (eFRS+)

Kasich has the perfect name for his face. And personality.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:52 AM (St6BJ)

43 Comment access from mainpage is fubared for me. Has been since Debate Part IV post went up.

Found a way though, finally. Have to click on the headline link in the sidebar which takes me to another page, then click on the Comment link from there.

Anybody else having a problem?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2015 06:54 AM (JO9+V)

44 Hey, are the debate playoffs today? What channel?

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (htXhe)

45
Abdul Urkel and his suitcase clock seems like a CAIR plant, a la the flying imams and Pepsi-rage-passenger.

I smell a rat.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (St6BJ)

46 39 Did Walker get swamped last night?
Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 06:51 AM (eFRS+)

He did ok but I don't think he stood out and he's in a spot where he needs new supporters & money.

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (cbfNE)

47 I thought Carly did pretty well, and it would be fun watching her rip Hillary to shreds. But I don't think Hillary will be the D. It will be Uncle Joe.

Anyway, Carly managed to be heard on all topics but two, where she was conspicuously silent--illegal immigration and AGW. hmmmm

Posted by: anti-socialist at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (o9lmn)

48 I mentioned this yesterday, but it's worth repeating: that "refugee" who was tripped by the Hungarian camerawoman as he and a mob of his buddies were illegally entering Hungary turns out to have a Facebook page in which he is shown posing with the flags of several Islamic terror organizations, including ISIS. (He took the page down after people started commenting on it, but some people had saved shots of it).

Not suggesting it's a good idea to trip people running while carrying kids, but this camera woman's instincts were right on. And all the people who were acting outrageously outraged over her "abuse" of the "poor, innocent migrants" look like the damn fools they are.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 06:56 AM (a31sM)

49 Test

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2015 06:56 AM (JO9+V)

50 I know religious liberals, and no-neither Huckbees's political stands nor his religious views are liberal. he might have an occasional liberal view, but he's not a liberal overall by any means.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/issues

And no, I am not a supporter of his.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 06:56 AM (dKQ1C)

51 47 Anyway, Carly managed to be heard on all topics but two, where she was conspicuously silent--illegal immigration and AGW. hmmmm

Posted by: anti-socialist at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (o9lmn)

Two MAJOR hits there.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:57 AM (t2KH5)

52 43 >> Anybody else having a problem?

Yeah, my checking account is empty. As far as accessing comments at the HQ, no. Maybe you need to clear your cache? I have to do that sometimes at WZ for some unknown reason.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2015 06:57 AM (gyKtp)

53 Kasich was born in McKees Rocks.
Just look at that face. You can tell he's not a real Ohioan.
But...but...he's a orphan. At least not in the Ciceronian sense.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 17, 2015 06:58 AM (xq1UY)

54 47 I thought Carly did pretty well, and it would be fun watching her rip Hillary to shreds. But I don't think Hillary will be the D. It will be Uncle Joe.

Anyway, Carly managed to be heard on all topics but two, where she was conspicuously silent--illegal immigration and AGW. hmmmm
Posted by: anti-socialist at September 17, 2015 06:55 AM (o9lmn)

Go back a few years to her senate candidacy against Boxer. She was not a standout, to say the least.

(and that lightbulb over my head means time to write an article for CutJib)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:58 AM (St6BJ)

55 Isis will take Mecca and Medina with the weapons abandoned by the Iraqi army.

POTUS will unleash the US Military on Isis, in coordination with Iran (after all the criticism of not pursuing ISIS he will be "bowing to public outcry" after all, and we can all agree what an enormous threat ISIS is )

Iran will consolidate gains in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and will be Muslim superpower/Islamic caliphate and threat of "Sunni" da'wa will be stopped permanently.

That's the plan.

Posted by: bopiddy at September 17, 2015 06:58 AM (9HJf4)

56 50
I know religious liberals, and no-neither Huckbees's political stands
nor his religious views are liberal. he might have an occasional liberal
view, but he's not a liberal overall by any means.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/issues

And no, I am not a supporter of his.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 06:56 AM (dKQ1C)

His record in AR is tax and spend (liberal) and he loved pardoning murderers who went on to murder some more. He is a liberal who is religious.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

57 56 He is a liberal who is religious.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

So he's a Kennedy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:01 AM (St6BJ)

58 Here is Hewitt's exact question: If a family member calls and says my child, my brother, my sister is disturbed, ought the state be able to go and get their weapon without a hearing?

Why does the state have to do it? When my brother was strung out, my dad took all of our guns to the local police department and turned them in for safe keeping because he didn't want him getting his hands on them and doing something stupid. If your level of awareness is so high about your relative, why don't you take matters into your own hands. It certainly is less threatening to someone who is unwell than sending in a SWAT team.

Posted by: no good deed at September 17, 2015 07:02 AM (GgxVX)

59 45 >> Abdul Urkel and his suitcase clock seems like a CAIR plant, a la the flying imams and Pepsi-rage-passenger.

Exactly the point I raised with my mom, JJ. That, and the fact that the kid 'knew' the thing looked threatening and brought it in anyways.

And now he will get his 15 minutes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2015 07:03 AM (gyKtp)

60 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Thanks for the news, Vic.

Sorry I don't have or have had any stories; I've got lots of books, but for various reasons I won't bore you with, I just haven't had the energy to write anything. But let me give you two birthday pictures.

First, Dolores Costello, grandmother of Drew Barrymore:

http://goo.gl/RmWWPq

A limpid beauty (she appears to wonderful effect in 1927s Old San Francisco) nicknamed "The Goddess Of The Silver Screen," the corrosive chemicals used in much early film makeup ravaged her complexion too seriously to hide; this, combined with a lisp, helped to more or less end her film career by 1930, though she made rare appearances on screen until a final retirement in 1943.

And here is Esther Ralston:

http://goo.gl/OeUTz1

A Bar Harbor girl, Ralston worked for Paramount in the silent days, earning up to $8000 per week and was a very popular actress. But by the 1930s she was generally playing supporting or cameo roles and she decided to retire ion 1940. Interest

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 07:03 AM (zF6Iw)

61 Black Lives Matter! unless white cop involved.

Chicago: 1 dead 6 shot a little below average, come on homies, lets pick it up, to get back to average.
Baltimore: unknown, but why don't the Baltimore schools have AC! (won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway) City getting fast charger for electric cars, at city hall!

Posted by: Colin at September 17, 2015 07:04 AM (eoM8x)

62 Last night's South Park episode was greatness.

Check your privilege, bro. I'm ready to throw down.

Posted by: pc principal at September 17, 2015 07:04 AM (0gjMe)

63 Yes, I know that last post cut off. Either fucking Pixy or my fucking computer keeps freezing. I'm out for a while.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 07:04 AM (zF6Iw)

64 57 So he's a Kennedy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:01 AM (St6BJ)

Kennedy (any of them) or about as religious as a rock in a churchyard. They may appear associated with the church but they really don't give a shit. (or past tense for the ones roasting in Hell).

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:05 AM (t2KH5)

65 43 Anybody else having a problem?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2015 06:54 AM (JO9+V)
=========================

Well, yes, but not that one. Comment access is working fine for me.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:07 AM (eFRS+)

66
I mentioned earlier in the day yesterday that Ben Carson has made statements supporting Amnesty, not years ago, but as recently as this year. And his 2nd Amendment stance is very troubling.

So beware.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:08 AM (St6BJ)

67 "Either fucking Pixy..."

I can't approve, but I understand.
I hate fucking Monkeys. I hate fucking Yankees.
But, dude. These are hamsters...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 17, 2015 07:09 AM (xq1UY)

68 Does anyone else want to punch Rand everytime he talks or is that just me???

Posted by: HairyPockets at September 17, 2015 07:09 AM (FGZtn)

69 66 And his 2nd Amendment stance is very troubling.

So beware.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:08 AM (St6BJ)

His stance is about the same as Trump's. He likes the phony assault rifle ban, except he wants full on gun control in urban areas.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:10 AM (t2KH5)

70 64 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:05 AM (t2KH5)

You don't appreciate my sarcasm. I'm bumming hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:10 AM (St6BJ)

71 @57 So he's a Kennedy?

Kennedy. It's a shame about John Kennedy.- Jacob "Sparky" Rubenstein

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 17, 2015 07:11 AM (j2xmV)

72 70 You don't appreciate my sarcasm. I'm bumming hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:10 AM (St6BJ)

I just wanted to get in my opinion of the Kennedy's religiousness.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:12 AM (t2KH5)

73 Bill Clinton in Chicago to raise money for his beloved...(Hillary)

Posted by: Colin at September 17, 2015 07:13 AM (eoM8x)

74 Jim Henson is rolling over in his grave. The new ABC Muppets show will delve into shock value risque subjects. TV truly is a wasteland.
---
PBS in charge of such an influential children's show. C'mon, you know liberals wouldn't be able to resist using that as an opportunity to indoctrinate kids. Too bad Romney wasn't able to axe it as promised during the debates. I wouldn't be surprised if they have 'Caitlyn' on as a guest at some point.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 07:16 AM (Qq/It)

75 Wow- I just watched the Fiorina takedown of PP over at HotAir (MKH post) and she was spectacular.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:19 AM (eFRS+)

76 **deep sigh**

Let's try again.

Esther Ralston, like Fay Wray, had a difficult life; in fact, screenwriter Robert J. Avrech, whose three-part series on Wray I mentioned the other day, also did a series of posts on Ralston, mentioning her abusive husbands and the sexual harrassment she suffered at the hands of director Dorothy Arzner and mogul Louis B. Mayer.

It was Mayer, in fact, whom Ralston was convinced ended her career; after being dropped by Paramount, Mayer, who wanted Ralston for MGM, had the hots for her and expected her to - well, let's say, "perform" for him. When she refused - Mayer stormed "Let me tell you, I can have any woman on this lot" and Ralston shot back, "Perhaps you can - any woman but Esther Ralston," - the studio chief sold her contract to Universal and basically blackballed her.

Here's a publicity photo from Ralston's 1927 film Ten Modern Commandments:

http://goo.gl/DwWPjN

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 07:19 AM (zF6Iw)

77 Time to go SSnS and get ready for Doc. May have time for a quick look in before I go.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:20 AM (t2KH5)

78 DAMN SKIPPY?!

Posted by: Al Sharpton, REVEREND! of the Tax Exempt Church of ??? at September 17, 2015 07:21 AM (sJuWI)

79 Cache clearing ineffective, as was rebooting. Only ace's place main page comments affected, no other websites with a problem loading.

This sidearm path through minx.cc.1080/ lets me see comments and post though it shows the "timeout" message each time.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2015 07:23 AM (JO9+V)

80 Thanks MPPPP- I love your stories. Mayer sounds like a douchebag.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:24 AM (eFRS+)

81 79 Cache clearing ineffective, as was rebooting. Only ace's place main page comments affected, no other websites with a problem loading.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2015 07:23 AM (JO9+V)

CASH CLEARING INEFFECTIVE?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Al Sharpton, REVEREND! of the Tax Exempt Church of ??? at September 17, 2015 07:25 AM (sJuWI)

82 Here is Hewitt's exact question: If a family member calls and says my child, my brother, my sister is disturbed, ought the state be able to go and get their weapon without a hearing?

No. You are talking about abrogating a Constitutional right. You had better be a qualified medical professional.

Extend that to other rights.
Disturbed - no hearing, no voting.
Disturbed - no 4th or 5th Amendment protections.
Etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 07:26 AM (aMV0K)

83 CASH CLEARING INEFFECTIVE?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Al Sharpton, REVEREND! of the Tax Exempt Church of ??? at September 17, 2015 07:25 AM (sJuWI)
All cash, no checks, no record for the IRS..but I have a special deposition anyway, I am a trusted Obama advisor.

Posted by: Colin at September 17, 2015 07:29 AM (eoM8x)

84 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 17, 2015 07:30 AM (ZQfW9)

85 Carly Fiorina: "I have great admiration for Hillary Clinton."

https://youtu.be/6kbvfwV8rHQ

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 07:31 AM (O7MnT)

86 19 Obama blames Americans for his shitty economy.

He was elected and re-elected. 52% of the country fucked the rest. So in a way, he's right.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 17, 2015 07:33 AM (9OTmo)

87
Dear Lord, I would love to punch Lindsay Graham dead in the face.

Asshole. Asshat. Liar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:34 AM (St6BJ)

88
So, Sarandon is opening her fat yap so she can get publicity for her up coming television series? Seems to be the thing for has been actors/actresses to get series that no one watches.

She seems desperate especially with that stupid show with the guy 40 years younger than her.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 17, 2015 07:34 AM (iQIUe)

89 Obama blames Americans for his shitty economy.

He was elected and re-elected. 52% of the country fucked the rest. So in a way, he's right

He was elected and re-elected. At some point, you own it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 07:37 AM (aMV0K)

90 From V the K's link above.

"I empathize with Hillary Clinton".

"Bold women, women of power are scrutinized...differently".

Sorry, Carly.

I tried.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 07:38 AM (0dcbp)

91 Just saw the glasses wearing numnuts from (I believe) the Washington Post saying on CNN that Miss Lindsay should move up to the top candidates tier based upon last night's performance. Wait. Whut?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 17, 2015 07:39 AM (hhirG)

92 He was elected and re-elected. At some point, you own it.

Posted by: rickb223

Slippery as an eel.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 07:39 AM (0dcbp)

93
I think SCOAMF is blaming the infidels who did not vote for him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:40 AM (St6BJ)

94 >>> sexual harrassment she suffered at the hands of director Dorothy Arzner

ugh. Why can't more lesbians look like Ellen Page (as opposed to Sally Kohn)?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 07:41 AM (Qq/It)

95 Donald Trump learning policy would be like Happy Gilmore learning to putt.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 07:41 AM (O7MnT)

96 31 My tweet to Jake Tapper this morning:

.@jaketapper do you personally dislike @tedcruz or did @CNN tell you to keep cutting him off after 5 seconds at the #CNNDebate?
Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 06:45 AM (cbfNE)

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Well, Cruz could have said forcefully, "Jake, you have to let me finish the answer."

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:41 AM (LXJ1e)

97 67
"Either fucking Pixy..."

I can't approve, but I understand.
I hate fucking Monkeys. I hate fucking Yankees.
But, dude. These are hamsters...

Posted by: Stringer Davis

I strongly suspect the hamster strike killed my access, or something.
Mess with the wheel, get run over.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 17, 2015 07:42 AM (4pjhs)

98 Here is Hewitt's exact question: If a family member calls and says my child, my brother, my sister is disturbed, ought the state be able to go and get their weapon without a hearing?
_________________________

So a person should have their property immediately confiscated by police on the basis of an uncorroborated phone tip from a person claiming to be a family member?

Oh, yes, of course the police should be able to do that. Because we know people would never, ever lie, right?

Husband (who, unbeknownst to police, is in the middle of a bitter divorce and custody battle with wife) calls police and says "I'm deeply concerned about my wife. She has threatened to kill our children, and she has guns in the house." So police, acting on concerned husband's tip, go to house and confiscate wife's guns, without an investigation or hearing. Next day, husband goes to wife's house (knowing she is now unarmed), and blows her away.

Does Hugh Hewitt understand anything at all about human behavior? Because his stupid question certainly suggests otherwise.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 07:43 AM (a31sM)

99 . And all the people who were acting outrageously outraged over her "abuse" of the "poor, innocent migrants" look like the damn fools they are.

But the fools get to go to work today and she will be working hotel bar

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 07:44 AM (ztOda)

100 Ed Gillespie was just on the radio this morning. Very instructive as to who he praised:

Miss Lindsey
Fiorina
Bush
Christie
Rubio

Then he made lots of hay about how he's trying to get the VA GOP to "look more like the electorate" and started pushing the RINO assholes he has running for VA state seats.

GOP Delenda Est.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 17, 2015 07:45 AM (eytER)

101 STAVANGER, Norway: In a break with Nobel tradition, the former secretary of the Nobel Peace Prize committee says the 2009 award to President Barack Obama failed to live up to the panel's expectations.

-
Can I get a, "No shit"?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 17, 2015 07:47 AM (ee9LE)

102 Donald Trump learning policy would be like Happy Gilmore learning to putt.

Learn policy?

Oh no, no.

One of his only appealing characteristics is that he actually has no idea of how to function Beltway-style.

Unlike the other 'outsiders' and 'mavericks'. *heave*

Day 1 of the President Trump's first term. "Bring me a copy of our budget for review."

"What do you mean we don't have one?"

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 07:47 AM (0dcbp)

103 We need a naming contest based on last night's performance of certain commentors.

Carlyheads

Fiorinaoids

The slavish devotion on display to everything coming out of her mouth was quite amusing.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:48 AM (LXJ1e)

104 Then (Ed Gillespie) made lots of hay about how he's trying to get the VA GOP to "look more like the electorate" and started pushing the RINO assholes he has running for VA state seats.

No doubt hoping to replicate the success of his 2014 Senate campaign.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 07:49 AM (O7MnT)

105 Some people are wound a bit tight. Ann Coulter takes on the candidates mentioning Israel. http://www.weaselzippers.us/

Posted by: AE at September 17, 2015 07:49 AM (+ft6G)

106 "What do you mean we don't have one?"

"You're Fired"

Fixed

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 07:50 AM (ztOda)

107 Jim Henson is rolling over in his grave. The new ABC Muppets show will delve into shock value risque subjects. TV truly is a wasteland.

http://fxn.ws/1YeSpf3

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Didja see Time Magazine featured Miss Piggy questioning monogamy after her breakup with Kermit?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 17, 2015 07:50 AM (ee9LE)

108 We need a naming contest based on last night's performance of certain commentors.

Carlyheads.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 07:50 AM (O7MnT)

109
"You're Fired"

Fixed

"What do you mean I 'can't fire anyone?'"

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 07:51 AM (0dcbp)

110 Ed, I'm still waiting for my GOTV calls for the Cooch from you and Bolling.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (ztOda)

111 A article said Jerry Brown is considering a run for the President. Where do these old career politicians keep thinking they should be president! Old High Speed Rail Brown, what is he thinking!!!!

Posted by: Colin at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (eoM8x)

112 Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:48 AM (LXJ1e)
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I didn't see the debate, but this sure as hell sounds like a "Pot- meet kettle" type of comment.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (eFRS+)

113 95 Donald Trump learning policy would be like Happy Gilmore learning to putt.
Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 07:41 AM (O7MnT)

More important for Trump right now is to give the impression that he won't set off a nuke at the slightest provocation.

I don't know if there has ever been an election won on policy.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (LXJ1e)

114 I'm not an evangelical and Israel is important to me. What obama and his minions have done to Israel is an embarrassment. I would not vote for anyone who is anti Israel. Supporting Israel is in our own best interest too. So, Coulter needs to sober up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 17, 2015 07:54 AM (iQIUe)

115 Jindaleks

Graham crackers

Kasich-os

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 07:54 AM (0dcbp)

116 112 Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:48 AM (LXJ1e)
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I didn't see the debate, but this sure as hell sounds like a "Pot- meet kettle" type of comment.
Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (eFRS+)

I dunno, it was pretty bad.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:54 AM (LXJ1e)

117 Boy, that Ramirez cartoon is a knee-slapper!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 17, 2015 07:55 AM (ee9LE)

118 I'm back for a little while. Anybody get banned while I was gone?

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 07:55 AM (t2KH5)

119 Sometimes on my phone the acecomments thread will try to bring me to something like (typing from memory)
Ads/mobvertisong.net/mobile

Keeps happening today

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 07:56 AM (Si1jj)

120 "You're Fired"

Fixed

"What do you mean I 'can't fire anyone?'"

Pen & a phone bitchez! Fixed it! Oh, and you are fired too!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 07:56 AM (aMV0K)

121 Wow- Ann. Tough language on candidates cultivating Jooooooos last night. What brought that on, I wonder?

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:57 AM (eFRS+)

122 Thanks MPPPP- I love your stories.

You're welcome. I hope I can get back to doing them on a regular basis.

Mayer sounds like a douchebag.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 07:24 AM (eFRS+)

Well, he was a tough bastard, as you had to be in that business. And he was manipulative, biased and underhanded. On the other hand, if you were a loyal member of the MGM "family," went along with studio dictates and didn't make waves, you were set for life; Mayer would make sure, either through himself, studio "fixer" Eddie Mannix or head of security Howard Strickland, that any problems were taken care of.

And Mayer - which is funny, after my telling you about his pursuit of Ralston - was mawkishly sentimental about womanhood and motherhood. When director Erich von Stroheim told him "All women are whores," Mayer punched him in the mouth. And actor John Gilbert's recounting of his actress mother's once tumbling head over heels on stage - "That was the first time I saw my mother's bare ass" - did nothing to endear the star to Mayer, who always loathed Gilbert.

If you're interested in Mayer, the biography Lion of Hollywood by Scott Eyman is very much worth reading.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 07:57 AM (zF6Iw)

123 We need a naming contest based on last night's performance of certain commentors.

Carlyheads

Fiorinaoids
---
Fiorinistas

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (Qq/It)

124 "What do you mean I 'can't fire anyone?'"
Posted by: Mortimer

Ok, you're choice of postings: Fish Springs, Johnston Atoll, Thule or Baltimore.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (ztOda)

125 "What do you mean I can't fire anyone?"

And that's a big part of the problem right there. Maybe instead of fire we should have a redundancy list. With lots and lots of names.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (HSAmh)

126 We need a naming contest based on last night's performance of certain commentors.

Carlyheads

Fiorinaoids
---
Fiorinistas
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner

ComPaq'ers

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (ztOda)

127 113 More important for Trump right now is to give the impression that he won't set off a nuke at the slightest provocation.

I don't know if there has ever been an election won on policy.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 07:52 AM (LXJ1e)

Considering the state of the world, I'd actually WANT a president to set off a nuke at the slightest provocation. Or at least threaten it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (St6BJ)

128 119 Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 07:56 AM (Si1jj)
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me too. Today my phone kept getting redirected to Gilt, which probably would make my #2 daughter happy if it were happening to her but I think is aggravating. Now on my computer and I don't have the issue.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:00 AM (eFRS+)

129 The number of commenters figuratively sucking Fiorinas dildo last night was fucking embarrassing. I do agree she peformed the best but she's also a lying shitheel and pro establishment whore monkey.

Plus look at that face!!!

Posted by: I ain't got time for this shit at September 17, 2015 08:00 AM (tt39M)

130 I have to really recommend the Vic's link on the Common Core.

Another example of the evil and mendacity of the Obama administration. Folks, the things Obama and his lackeys do isn't from incompetence.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:01 AM (LXJ1e)

131
Considering the state of the world, I'd actually WANT a president to set off a nuke at the slightest provocation. Or at least threaten it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 07:59 AM (St6BJ)

I guess that's the needle that needs to be threaded.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (LXJ1e)

132 Donald Trump is silly and he's ignorant. But he's got guts, and guts is enough.

Posted by: Gunnery Sgt Hartman at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (r+Sy0)

133 129 The number of commenters figuratively sucking Fiorinas dildo last night was fucking embarrassing. I do agree she peformed the best but she's also a lying shitheel and pro establishment whore monkey.

Plus look at that face!!!
Posted by: I ain't got time for this shit at September 17, 2015 08:00 AM (tt39M)

The Republican debate is now Pro Wrestling in its sincerity and reality.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (St6BJ)

134 Considering the state of the world, I'd actually WANT a president to set
off a nuke at the slightest provocation. Or at least threaten it.

The Frank J. option
http://tinyurl.com/6yewv

"Gotta
nuke something."

-20th
century philosopher Nelson Muntz

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (0dcbp)

135 Watched the highlights reels and checked Twitter during the debate while I was at work. Not a great night for Trump, not a bad one, either. His polling will probably remain even.

Jeb didn't come out looking stronger, which I think was CNN's intent. The casino gambling spat looked a bit desperate. I've seen complaints here and there that Trump only gives to law makers, not governors. But he has given quite a bit to the party.

That was the case in Florida. Trump gave $50,000 to the Republucan party in 1998 while looking into casino gambling on Seminole land. A business partner was pushing for it harder, but Trump was pretty hands off and only gave Jeb $500. He hosted a fundraiser for him, but he didn't lobby him.

Fiorina was okay, not really exciting. I get the "that face" thing. She kinda seems like a scold. It's a fine line between ball buster and confident, and Fiorina makes Hillary look relaxed and unscripted. I hate these feminist lectures of hers.

Carson's support will drift toward Walker, I think. He's seen his target group go in two different directions. The "fighter who wins" group went to Trump. There's no getting them for a while. Those who think piling on him will help haven't figured out attacking him at this point reinforces his outsider cred. Walker should make a play for Carson's "It's okay to be boring" supporters, because Walker is just a boring guy.

Rubio was worse this time. Kasich still sucks. Christie is improved. Huckabee probably scored with evangelicals.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (nCKKS)

136 119 Sometimes on my phone the acecomments thread will try to bring me to something like (typing from memory)
Ads/mobvertisong.net/mobile

Keeps happening today
Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 07:56 AM (Si1jj)

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Mine too.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:03 AM (LXJ1e)

137 JJ, I want to see a candidate answer a global warming question with: I'm willing abrogate the open air test ban treaty so we can gather good data on global warming.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:03 AM (ztOda)

138 Fiorengi

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:03 AM (Qq/It)

139 ugh. Why can't more lesbians look like Ellen Page (as opposed to Sally Kohn)?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 07:41 AM (Qq/It)

I give you Golden Age star Lilyan Tashman. Irene Mayer Selznick (daughter of Louis B and wife of David O) said that "When Lilyan had some drinks, it was best not to go into the powder room with her."

http://goo.gl/Etd0mz

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:04 AM (zF6Iw)

140 sweet furgle flanking motogit gak rassafrassin formatting

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:04 AM (0dcbp)

141 Ben Carson's response on minimum wage was a little bit of a head scratcher. We should have not only one, but two different minimum wages. An entry level minimum wage and a minimum wage for people who want to make a career out of earning minimum wage (I'm paraphrasing here).

Or maybe an amateur minimum wage and a professional minimum wage.

I know, why don't we let each employee self-identify what their minimum wage is.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 17, 2015 08:05 AM (NeFrd)

142 138 Fiorengi
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:03 AM (Qq/It)

___________

Winner!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:05 AM (LXJ1e)

143 The Republican debate is now Pro Wrestling in its sincerity and reality.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 08:02 AM (St6BJ)
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But Pro Wrestling has better looking women overseeing the action.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:05 AM (eFRS+)

144 140
sweet furgle flanking motogit gak rassafrassin formatting

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:04 AM (0dcbp)

Ah, authentic frontier gibberish. Must be Tuesday.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 17, 2015 08:06 AM (yxw0r)

145 "Gotta nuke something."

Just for shitz and giggles, how about North Korea?

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 17, 2015 08:06 AM (j2xmV)

146 If you're interested in Mayer, the biography Lion of Hollywood by Scott Eyman is very much worth reading.

Any other recommendations.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:06 AM (O7MnT)

147 Good morning

Don't tend to watch the debates, partly due to technological limitations, partly due to disinterest. Was reading the comments, like always, and listening to the radio highlights on the way to work, like always. No real opinion on any of it.

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Traveler's Cheques at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)

148 Huckabee promoted the Fair Tax Plan and Carson sounded like he's ready to go with it too.

Any one of the other candidates could make a big splash if they came up with a good way to explain some of the features in the short bursts needed for TV sound bites.

It could be far bigger than immigration.

Posted by: jwest at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (Zs4uk)

149 We already have two minimum wages, the official one and the Latino illegal one.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (ztOda)

150 I am hoping that Walker picks up some steam. A guy who knows how and when to keep his mouth shut is a useful commodity.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (0dcbp)

151 Morning all

i did not even watch the debate. It's all stupidity.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (gf8BH)

152 Or Thursday. Remains to be seen.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (yxw0r)

153 Fiorengi
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:03 AM (Qq/It)

___________

Winner!
Posted by: Make America Great Again

FioReavers.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 08:08 AM (aMV0K)

154 "What do you mean I 'can't fire anyone?'"

"Executive Order, motherfuckers! Do you speak it?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:08 AM (zF6Iw)

155 "Gotta nuke something."

Just for shitz and giggles, how about North Korea?

Nah, no one will care. Mecca is the money shot.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:08 AM (ztOda)

156 Fiorengi --- Love it!

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:09 AM (O7MnT)

157 Jebbaloes

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:09 AM (Qq/It)

158 "What do you mean I 'can't fire anyone?'"

"Executive Order, motherfuckers! Do you speak it?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins'

I can't fire you, but I can write an executive order banning anyone from paying you.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:09 AM (ztOda)

159 150 I am hoping that Walker picks up some steam. A guy who knows how and when to keep his mouth shut is a useful commodity.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:07 AM (0dcbp)

I think he will lose more support.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (LXJ1e)

160 The new ABC Muppets show will delve into shock value risque subjects.

In the hands of the post-Walt corporate Disney, this was inevitable.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (oVJmc)

161 Lindsay Graham, he's a dead man.

John Kaisch, dead.

Scott Walker dead.

Let's go! I think that after these debates so far that it is absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done by the GOPe and Jeb! is just the guy to do it.

Posted by: Zombie Senator Blutarsky at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (D0NZx)

162 Kasickos

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (0dcbp)

163 24 Couldn't sleep at all last night. Too many Red Bulls!

Posted by: El Jeb! at September 17, 2015 06:39 AM (o9lmn)

El Toro rojo!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (DfCQN)

164 Ellen Page is crazy. Seriously, she has lost it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 17, 2015 08:10 AM (iQIUe)

165 Ben Carson's response on minimum wage was a little bit of a head scratcher. We should have not only one, but two different minimum wages. An entry level minimum wage and a minimum wage for people who want to make a career out of earning minimum wage (I'm paraphrasing here).
_______________

Carson seems like a good guy and was probably an excellent doctor, but he frequently appears to be in over his head in these policy debates.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 08:11 AM (a31sM)

166 I can't fire you, but I can write an executive order banning anyone from paying you.

Game, set & match!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 08:11 AM (aMV0K)

167 Ben Carson's response on minimum wage was a little bit of a head scratcher. We should have not only one, but two different minimum wages. An entry level minimum wage and a minimum wage for people who want to make a career out of earning minimum wage

$7.50 hr starting.
$7.51 hr careerist.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 08:12 AM (aMV0K)

168 The Republican debate is now Pro Wrestling in its sincerity and reality.

=====

This I have an opinion on.
Its not just the Republicans going that way. It shows more because we're going through our version of the 1968 Dem Convention now, but I think we've entered a period where bombast and mob tactics win the day rather than reason and such. It just is. Rome went the same way after the Gracchi.

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Traveler's Cheques at September 17, 2015 08:12 AM (3ZtZW)

169 I see Madonna is again scaling the heights of musical taste and genius. The NY Post says that her new "Holy Water" tour features her pulling off a costume to reveal a skimpy nuns outfit which she wears while climbing a pole. She then appears as Jesus in a Last Supper tableaux. For someone who hasn't been RC for a very long time, the faith still obsesses her, doesn't it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:12 AM (dKQ1C)

170 I can't fire you, but I can write an executive order banning anyone from paying you.

Nice!

Or work with the Republican House behind the scenes to shut down for as long as necessary.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:13 AM (0dcbp)

171 Why the fuck didn't LBJ invade Cuba with the intel he had on hand? The American people would have followed him like Teddy R up that hill.

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:13 AM (ztOda)

172 As I said I did not listen to the absurd debate, but watching the "Highlights" was Senator Cruz even there?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2015 08:14 AM (gf8BH)

173 I had to turn it off half way thru. It was pathetic.

Like someone up thread said, pro wrestling with ugly people.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2015 08:16 AM (zz1pw)

174 "The number of commenters figuratively sucking Fiorinas dildo...."

Sorry; Saying some positive things about Fiorina does not mean anyone is sucking her dildo.

Charming.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:16 AM (dKQ1C)

175 President Jean, Day 3 I hereby request that the House of Representatives prepare all Appropriations bills on a quarterly basis and issue them at the greatest level of detail that is practical. Brutus, I am ending the Imperial Presidency.

Sigh

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:17 AM (ztOda)

176 I was pleased to hear that the governors on stage had defunded PP (Christie, Walker, Bush). Maybe PP is like Timex, takes a licking but keeps on ticking.

(Well not exactly ticking, more like trafficking in human baby parts)

#BlackLiversMatter

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 17, 2015 08:17 AM (NeFrd)

177 I have never in my life seen such a debate set up in such a chaotic manner, designed to take down one man that failed so miserably.
Trump and Christie we're right. The debate really didn't let a number of people talk about anything other than comments said between one another.
End result is it backfired and was a total waste of a night.

Posted by: Drider at September 17, 2015 08:17 AM (DNFK1)

178 We would like to extend a warm and sincere "Thank you" to President Obama for the fine and expensive training he has provided our new Syrian recruits the past year. Were sure they will become fine fighters for Allah.

Peace Be With You Obama

Posted by: ISIS Traing Director at September 17, 2015 08:17 AM (1BQGO)

179 Ben Carson's response on minimum wage was a little bit of a head scratcher. We should have not only one, but two different minimum wages.

========

His specialty is splitting conjoined twins. So to him it makes perfect sense

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Traveler's Cheques at September 17, 2015 08:18 AM (3ZtZW)

180 The group picture of the debaters, where Jeb! is standing on his toes and stretching his neck to try and appear taller -- does that remind anybody else of third-grade class pictures? I'm just surprised Jeb! didn't give Trump the 2-finger rabbit ears for the picture.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 08:18 AM (a31sM)

181 One of my nephews was going through a divorce a few years ago. The soon to be ex wife calls the cops and says she is afraid of him because he has all these guns in the house. The cops came and took all of them. No hearing, no questions in front of a judge, just her say so. Luckily he got them all back after the divorce was final.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 17, 2015 08:19 AM (FIrEF)

182 @169. In this day and age I guess its hard to shock anyone anymore. Someone should tell her this ain't the 80's.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 17, 2015 08:19 AM (j2xmV)

183 I say we send Vic over to Syria. To deal with ISIS

Posted by: Righter at September 17, 2015 08:19 AM (uL6Ch)

184 Good morning, Horde.

I see everyone survived the debate last night. Anyone have a clear winner?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 17, 2015 08:20 AM (LUgeY)

185 I want the Federalist's piece on Ahmed the clock maker for the dump... but I'm probably too late to recommend....

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:20 AM (0eidE)

186 Didn't watch the debate. Shits were given at the office. All out.

I figure that once the embers die down to the point I can pick them up and scatter them with the stones, I'll start paying attention.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 17, 2015 08:20 AM (BZAd3)

187 Jebbaloes
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:09 AM (Qq/It)

I'm stealing that term.

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:21 AM (0eidE)

188 183 I say we send Vic over to Syria. To deal with ISIS

Posted by: Righter at September 17, 2015 08:19 AM (uL6Ch)
=======================

Well, he does have experience in the region so it's worth considering. He did a helluva job leading the Israelites out of Egypt, or so the story goes.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:22 AM (eFRS+)

189 57 Jebbaloes
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:09 AM (Qq/It)

Fucking Checks and Balances, how do they work?!

Posted by: Inbred Crown Posse at September 17, 2015 08:22 AM (sJuWI)

190 Didn't watch the debate. Shits were given at the office. All out.

I figure that once the embers die down to the point I can pick them up and scatter them with the stones, I'll start paying attention.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 17, 2015 08:20 AM (BZAd3)

I didn't watch the Fox debate, but I did watch this one. I enjoyed it. Trump sure made it funny and I think it helped to show me the different candidates.... and Christie's waddle...

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (0eidE)

191 Trey Gowdy opened the Republican dominated Benghazi hearings. He used to be my hero, but after one year with no results other than more hot air I am disappointed. Scankles has drug her heals for a year and she has not been hit with a contempt charge.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party

Vic, part of the problem seems to be that McCain was involved in Benghazi:
http://tinyurl.com/orsvbyn

Relevant excerpt:
"During the Spring of 2011, as the Obama administration ramped up efforts to topple the Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, a licensed American arms dealer, Marc Turi, his business partner formerly with the CIA, senior US military officials in Europe and Africa as well as a former staffer for republican Senator John McCain considered logistics for arming the rebels, according to the emails exclusively obtained by Fox Business and Fox News.

Turi is facing federal trial this December on two counts that he allegedly violated the arms export control act by making false statements. Turi denies the charges, and alleges there was a rogue weapons operation run with the knowledge of Mrs. Clinton’s state department.

The email dated March 22, 2011 was sent by Admiral James Stavridis, when he was the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, from his government email account to Turi’s business partner David Manners.

The email was also copied to General Carter Ham, then head of the defense department’s Africa command. Stavridis vouches for Manners as a United States Naval Academy classmate and “former CIA Officer with deep connections throughout the near Middle East.”

Also copied on the email is Mike Kostiw who worked for Senator John McCain until February 2011 on the Senate Armed Services committee. It is not known from the emails reviewed by Fox whether the parties responded, or whether others were brought into the discussion."

Posted by: Daybrother simmering resentment at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (mW11a)

192 If Donald Trump is Happy Gilmore, does that make Jeb Shooter McGavin?

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (O7MnT)

193 #BlackLiversMatter

Hells, yes to that! What a harvest we had this year!

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (FcR7P)

194 His specialty is splitting conjoined twins.

***

Maybe he should be the one to steer us through the Great National Divorce™ of 2017.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (NeFrd)

195 We would like to extend a warm and sincere "Thank you" to President Obama for the fine and expensive training he has provided our new Syrian recruits the past year. Were sure they will become fine fighters for Allah.

Peace Be With You Obama
Posted by: ISIS Traing Director at September 17, 2015 08:17 AM (1BQGO)
______________________

Hahahahaha. Joke's on you, ISIS. We spent half a billion taxpayer dollars, but we only trained 5 guys -- and they'll probably all be dead within a week or two, so they'll be of no use to you, or anybody else!

We're playing 4-dimensional chess with you. You're just not smart enough to understand the diabolically clever tactics of the Harvard-trained mind!

Posted by: Obama Brain Trust: Smert Pouer! at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (a31sM)

196 Well heading out. BBL

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 17, 2015 08:25 AM (t2KH5)

197 If Donald Trump is Happy Gilmore, does that make Jeb Shooter McGavin?
Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:23 AM (O7MnT)

Jeb came off to much of a nice guy I think. Carly stuck it to Trump and has the balls to be the Shooter McGavin.

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:25 AM (0eidE)

198 Carson's minimum wage answer was stupid as shit. A two-tiered, permanent minimum wage? Does he understand why, as a Pediatric Neurosurgeon, he was paid more than a burger flipper? Apparently not.

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:25 AM (6xtq3)

199 At the end of the day, what matters in a long marathon like a primary campaign is money.

Four of them have it. Bush, Rubio, Cruz, and Walker.

Will Fiorina get a poll bump? Yeah, she will. Will it matter much more than the bump that Carson got last month? Maybe, but probably not if the donations don't start coming in in the 10s of millions like the four mentioned above.

Remember, there are six more of these things, I think.

Cruz actually had a talk-time in the top half. He just didn't seem to be living up to the "champion debater" reputation. His supporters have been reduced to complaining that he was "cut off." No, he just wasn't very assertive. Which doesn't matter all that much because he has the money to keep going well into the new year.

People don't like it but Bush has more than enough money to keep going for a very long time. As lackluster as he is, he will be one of the last 2 or 3 guys standing. People need to deal with that reality.

Rubio made anybody bitching about campaigning in Spanish look like troglodytes. Yeah, what we really want is for our candidates to be filtered through leftist Spanish-language media translators, right, instead of being able to talk directly, themselves, to the Spanish-speaking voters? Rubio crushed that.

John Kasich has been a good governor of Ohio, all things considered, but he doesn't belong on that stage.

Walker just needs to keep on keeping on. He has the record conservatives say they want, the tone that disarms LIVs, and enough money to get past this 16-person scrum stage of the campaign and into the new year. He just needs to keep building his org in early states, stay on-message, and be who he is, i.e., a normal person.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:26 AM (ljZD2)

200 Is Hillary being arrested soon? I'm kinda tired of waiting.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:26 AM (eFRS+)

201 Yes, it was somewhat heartening to hear almost all of the group hammer PP.

In America that was, almost any combination of the group on stage would have made a decent CinC and Cabinet.

Except Kasich, the focus of Tapper's man-crush.

Kasich was riding a unicycle at the demolition derby.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:26 AM (0dcbp)

202 Listen, I'm sure you're a nice person. A tremendous person. Tremendously nice. But you're a poo-poo head. Absolutely full of poo-poo.

Posted by: The Donald on the issues at September 17, 2015 08:27 AM (yxw0r)

203 Any other recommendations.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:06 AM (O7MnT)

It depends on what you want to read. If you have some special interest, ask me. Otherwise,

The DeMille bio Empire Of Dreams by Scott Eyman is, like his Mayer bio, well-written. Sin In Soft Focus by Mark Viera is an older book, but a lavishly-illustrated look at Pre-Code Hollywood movies. And the film professor Jeanine Basinger has two excellent books - Silent Stars, which looks at the careers of several well-knownactors and actresses, and The Star Machine, which is an in-depth look at how the big studios like MGM and Paramount found, trained and marketed their stars; it's a very entertaining book, even if it sounds dry.

And, of course (he said modestly), there is a lovely little silent film mystery called The Director's Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery which you might find worth your while.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:27 AM (zF6Iw)

204 Four of them have it. Bush, Rubio, Cruz, and Walker.

Obsess much?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:27 AM (0dcbp)

205 Well, interestingly, our Republican Governor has placed his sights on our Democratic County Executive, and his failure to spend State provided money wisely on County School infrastructure.

http://cbsloc.al/1KhvKoO

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 17, 2015 08:28 AM (VPLuQ)

206 1 Kings 3:25. Carson must not even have a PR staff, else that baby-splittin' sideline of his would have yielded some references to the Wisdom of Solomon. If he does not act soon, he'll be tossed in with all those others who take babies apart.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 17, 2015 08:28 AM (xq1UY)

207 Cruz actually had a talk-time in the top half. He just didn't seem to be living up to the "champion debater" reputation. His supporters have been reduced to complaining that he was "cut off." No, he just wasn't very assertive. Which doesn't matter all that much because he has the money to keep going well into the new year.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:26 AM (ljZD2)

I agree I didn't like Cruz's performance at the debate either. He style of talking seemed off. I love him in the videos at events, but this debate he might have been slipped a vicadin by Perry.

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:28 AM (0eidE)

208 And, of course (he said modestly), there is a lovely little silent film mystery called The Director's Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery which you might find worth your while.

I recommend that one heartily.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 17, 2015 08:29 AM (LUgeY)

209 Is it me or does Kasich come off as some sort of deranged lunatic?

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:29 AM (6xtq3)

210 Sure seem to be a bunch of AT&T IPs blocked from commenting. I'm compiling a list for the hampsters.

Trying again...

Morning, Glories! Thought I'd throw my 2¢ in before the thread died.

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Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 07:16 AM:
The new Muppets show isn't on PBS. It's on HBO. IIRC.

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Folks, there are still links lying around that take you to the port-1080 page rather than acecomments.mu.nu, including (last time I checked) the Archives. Avoid the port 1080 links. Debris left from the server fail a while back that Pixy hasn't cleaned up. Still.

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Yay, Vic news and Poppins tales and the usual gang of Morons. My day is all downhill from here.

Think I'll risk a second cup of coffee now...

Posted by: mindful webworker - exactly imprecise at September 17, 2015 08:29 AM (O+0DS)

211 55 Isis will take Mecca and Medina with the weapons abandoned by the Iraqi army.

POTUS will unleash the US Military on Isis, in coordination with Iran (after all the criticism of not pursuing ISIS he will be "bowing to public outcry" after all, and we can all agree what an enormous threat ISIS is )

Iran will consolidate gains in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and will be Muslim superpower/Islamic caliphate and threat of "Sunni" da'wa will be stopped permanently.

That's the plan.
Posted by: bopiddy at September 17, 2015 06:58 AM (9HJf4)

Then every sunni on the planet -- including about 100 million Pakistanis and Bangladeshis -- invades Saudi and retakes the holy places. Seriously, the sunnis will never, ever let a shiite power hold Mecca and Medina.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 17, 2015 08:29 AM (RD7QR)

212 Is Steve Schmidt still unemployed?

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:30 AM (ztOda)

213 People don't like it but Bush has more than enough money to keep going for a very long time. As lackluster as he is, he will be one of the last 2 or 3 guys standing. People need to deal with that reality.
===========================

That's just, like, your opinion man.

Besides, aren't you really saying he isn't standing at all? It sounds more like he's being propped up.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:30 AM (eFRS+)

214 Each year at a meeting of the Presbytery of Greater Atlanta, we remember in prayer our recently deceased elders," reports Rev. Woody McKay of Midway Presbyterian Church in Decatur, GA. "Prior to the meeting, the newsletter of the Presbytery carried the following announcement:

Only a small number of deceased elders has been sent to us. You can still bring yours with you to be added to the list."

From "Holy Humor" by Cal & Rose Samra.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:30 AM (dKQ1C)

215 Glad to see CNN found a mortician to make-up Hugh Hewitt.

They clearly decided to keep the cameras off him. To keep from frightening the viewers.

Posted by: socalcon at September 17, 2015 08:31 AM (lHASK)

216 Isis will take Mecca and Medina with the weapons abandoned by the Iraqi army.

POTUS will unleash the US Military on Isis, in coordination with Iran (after all the criticism of not pursuing ISIS he will be "bowing to public outcry" after all, and we can all agree what an enormous threat ISIS is )

Iran will consolidate gains in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and will be Muslim superpower/Islamic caliphate and threat of "Sunni" da'wa will be stopped permanently.

That's the plan.
Posted by: bopiddy at September 17, 2015 06:58 AM (9HJf4)

Naw, Obama doesn't care what happens in the middle east that much. DOD doesn't want to get that heavily involved right now. DOD is who shot down the President with his dumb red-line talk with Syria.

Posted by: Draki at September 17, 2015 08:32 AM (0eidE)

217 Not a single one of them made the point that raising the minimum wage does not raise the purchasing power of an hour of burger flipping.

They don't want to be seen by progressives as meanies.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 17, 2015 08:32 AM (NeFrd)

218 He style of talking seemed off.

He kept staring at the camera which was I think supposed to connect him with the audience but in reality , just made him look robotic.

His speech rhythms are very Baptist preacher-y which translates to finger-wagging for some. I am sure that he is awesome on his feet in a trial, but the projection of an executive persona is sorely lacking.

When he talks I hear 'lawyerlawyerlawyerlawyer' .
I hate it but it's true.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:33 AM (0dcbp)

219 Rubio made anybody bitching about campaigning in Spanish look like troglodytes. Yeah, what we really want is for our candidates to be filtered through leftist Spanish-language media translators, right, instead of being able to talk directly, themselves, to the Spanish-speaking voters? Rubio crushed that.

I like it. Instead of encouraging Spanish speakers to assimilate and learn the language of their host country, we should insist our candidates treat them like special snowflakes and coo softly to them in their own tongue, thereby reinforcing the idea that they don't have to conform to America because America will conform to them.

I can't wait for !Jeb to stark speaking Cantonese when he campaigns in a heavily Asian district. And I'm sure his Hebrew, when he hits the synagogues, is, like him, just fabulous.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:34 AM (zF6Iw)

220 Is Steve Schmidt still unemployed?

I believe he is Lindsey Graham's assistant towel-boy. One of eight.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:34 AM (O7MnT)

221 Carly did well, but man, that scowl! (in a way, teh Donald's point was made). I guess she feels like she dare not smile. Couldn't hurt her, in my book.

I like her when she is taking it to the Ds, but am leary of her to the extent that she plays Teh Victim (We all heard what he said about my face! sniff). And need to hear a lot more from her on Amnesty. Suspicious.

Posted by: bystander at September 17, 2015 08:34 AM (hKyl0)

222 A Sunday school teacher was telling her kindergarten class about the Golden Rule, "Remember," she said, "we are here to help others."

"Then what are others here for?" a little girl asked.

Msgr. Arthur Tonne

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:34 AM (dKQ1C)

223 209
Is it me or does Kasich come off as some sort of deranged lunatic?

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:29 AM (6xtq3)

His vigorous defenses of the establishment and the status quo are indeed inspiring. So, yes.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 17, 2015 08:35 AM (yxw0r)

224 Then every sunni on the planet -- including about 100 million Pakistanis and Bangladeshis -- invades Saudi and retakes the holy places.

Is that a feature or a bug in the plan?

Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (ztOda)

225 Carly did well, but man, that scowl! (in a way, teh Donald's point was made).

Trump said it was about her demeanor.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (oVJmc)

226 Only a small number of deceased elders has been sent to us. You can still bring yours with you to be added to the list."

From "Holy Humor" by Cal & Rose Samra.

Insert Monty Python skit here.

"I'm feeling much better..."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (LUgeY)

227 @ Daybrother

Remember this?
John McCain to host Hillary Clinton in Sedona, Ariz.
Bet that was an interesting meeting.

http://tinyurl.com/nqhvweq

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (0dcbp)

228 199 At the end of the day, what matters in a long marathon like a primary campaign is money.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:26 AM (ljZD2)

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Tdaddy, I pretty much agree with everything you said there.

Also all four have pretty good organizations, maybe Rubio less so than the other three.

The problem with speaking Spanish, is I don't know what he is saying. Nor do I trust him/them to say the the same thing to English American audiences and Spanish American/illegal audiences.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (LXJ1e)

229 Have you heard these ads with Morgan Freem reading what "Pope Francis says..."?Of course ,you know what he says that they think is of the greatest importance.They certainly don't care what Pope Francis says about marriage,abortion or pre marital sex.

Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2015 08:37 AM (sPO3u)

230 I can't wait for !Jeb to stark speaking Cantonese when he campaigns in a heavily Asian district.

I look forward to El Jeb and Rubio learning Syrian Arabic to welcome the "refugees."

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

231 Only caught like 30 min of the debate between 9-10 last night. Here's what I got out of it:

-Trump... still doesn't make a lot of sense, and nobody else can figure out what to do about that. He's the ultimate wild card. He doesn't even know what he's going to say, so nobody else can prepare for it.
-Rubio, Cruz, and Firoina sounded the most articulate (The section I heard was about foreign policy in the middle east and Putin).
-Walker argued with Jeb and Trump and didn't seem to get anywhere.
-Christie seemed personable, not in a good way, but the Bill Clinton sociopathic sort of way.
-Carson really disappointed me. I'm sure he's the smartest man up there, but the guy just did not seem good at thinking on his feet. He's not naturally a debater or salesman. I don't doubt that if he'd been giving a lecture on surgery, he'd have sounded a lot better than he did, but he really reminded me of an amateur debater who crammed the material for a day or two.
-Kasich wasted 5 minutes of potential time talking about the issues with a speech about how much he cared about the issues and that we need to focus more.

I feel like I must have missed someone. There were a million people on stage and I can't imagine I heard from them all.

Posted by: joe at September 17, 2015 08:37 AM (KUaJL)

232 "Doesn't God care?" A daily devotional from "Our Daily Bread".

http://odb.org

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:38 AM (dKQ1C)

233 They don't want to be seen by progressives as meanies.

A friend thinks they are all meanies anyway, but he get all his news from MSNBC and Yahoo...His family loves the freebies. The free college is important along with forgiving all college loans...I suggest maybe a Obama car would be okay??

Posted by: Colin at September 17, 2015 08:38 AM (eoM8x)

234 she plays Teh Victim (We all heard what he said about my face! sniff)

I believe the exact quote was "Women all over America know what he said. " *sniff*

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:39 AM (0dcbp)

235 Then every sunni on the planet -- including about 100 million Pakistanis and Bangladeshis -- invades Saudi and retakes the holy places.

Is that a feature or a bug in the plan?

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 08:39 AM (aMV0K)

236 Rubio didn't make anyone look like troglodytes.

trumpetdaddy, seek help.

Seriously.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:39 AM (0dcbp)

237 Rome went the same way after the Gracchi.
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Traveler's Cheques at September 17, 2015 08:12 AM (3ZtZW)

Vic remembers it like it was yesterday.

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 08:40 AM (cbfNE)

238 Just accept that anyone besides Trump and maybe ... *maybe" ... Ted Cruz is going to sell us out on Amnesty and give us the same "Amnesty Now, border control later (maybe)" and tell us, "We have to accept it because it's the best deal we can possibly get."

If you're okay with that, you're okay with the GOP field.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:40 AM (O7MnT)

239 224 Then every sunni on the planet -- including about 100 million Pakistanis and Bangladeshis -- invades Saudi and retakes the holy places.

Is that a feature or a bug in the plan?
Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2015 08:36 AM (ztOda)

Now that you mention it, a long scrum between the Sunnis and Shiites in the middle of the Arabian desert does sound like a win/win scenario, doesn't it? Make sure the Jordanians stay out of it and when they're all dead the Hashemites retake the holy places and restore the status quo.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 17, 2015 08:41 AM (RD7QR)

240 One of my nephews was going through a divorce a few years ago. The soon to be ex wife calls the cops and says she is afraid of him because he has all these guns in the house. The cops came and took all of them. No hearing, no questions in front of a judge, just her say so. Luckily he got them all back after the divorce was final.
Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 17, 2015 08:19 AM (FIrEF)
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It would be idiotic to give the police that kind of power. Everybody who is involved in a dispute with somebody else would then have an easy way to ensure that their adversary is disarmed: just call the police and tell them you're disturbed by the person's erratic behavior, and BTW Mr. Policeman, this person has guns so you need to hurry over there and take all the guns away before somebody gets hurt!

Somebody needs to explain to Hugh Hewitt that there is a reason why we have hearings before we let the state take away somebody's property or their liberty: we need to know the facts. We can't just assume that everybody is going to act in good faith and tell the truth, because that's just not how human nature works. And yes, sometimes hearings take too much time and somebody gets hurt who wouldn't have gotten hurt if we'd been able to act more quickly. But no system is ever going to operate perfectly, and it's better to have a system where people have the right to due process than a system where people can be stripped of their right to defend themselves based on nothing more than an uncorroborated phone call to police.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 17, 2015 08:41 AM (a31sM)

241 I had a low opinion of Jeb going into the debate and it didn't improve. What a turd.

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:41 AM (6xtq3)

242 Besides, aren't you really saying he isn't standing at all? It sounds more like he's being propped up.
Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 08:30 AM (eFRS+)

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Jeb! will waddle on like Huck in 2008 and Santorum in 2012. He will be the alternate Not-Trump for the GOPe. Tables turned!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:41 AM (LXJ1e)

243 "Instead of encouraging Spanish speakers to assimilate and learn the
language of their host country, we should insist our candidates treat
them like special snowflakes and coo softly to them in their own tongue,
thereby reinforcing the idea that they don't have to conform to America
because America will conform to them."

What a bunch of simplistic, patronizing bullshit.

Grown adults are not children, that need to be "taught" the "proper" language to speak. Rubio was very clear about why his grandfather spoke Spanish to him, and what he talked about.

My own grandparents spoke Croatian in their home, and English when they had to, and only then. They voted straight Republican tickets because Democrats were reminders of Tito's communists back in Yugoslavia.

Were they not "assimilated?" My grandfather was a Marine and served this country in the Pacific, then was a steelworker in PA until he retired. Was he not "assimilated?"

We do want Spanish-speaking immigrants to vote Republican and be conservatives, don't we? I'm sure that project will be really helped by being douchebags about what language they are most comfortable speaking.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:41 AM (ljZD2)

244 she plays Teh Victim (We all heard what he said about my face! sniff)

I believe the exact quote was "Women all over America know what he said. " *sniff*

You want equality, sugartits?
Sack up or stay in the kitchen.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2015 08:42 AM (aMV0K)

245 Jeb, even on a personal level is unappealing. Not sure what the GOPe was thinking when they served that shit sandwich.

Posted by: dogfish at September 17, 2015 08:43 AM (2/WhT)

246 75
Carly's takedown of PP I think was one of the two big hits she made last night. The other was the "Women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said,"

She actually made him speechless. Priceless!

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 17, 2015 08:44 AM (DlmoZ)

247 Dumbest thing you will read today: Feminist (of course) says billionaires are building rocket-ships so they can destroy the Earth and laugh at us while they escape.

http://tinyurl.com/pfg8v64

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:44 AM (O7MnT)

248 Speaking your native language in your home is very different than not learning English or assimilating outside your home.Of course Spanish speakers are accomodated far better than immigrant groups in the old days.

Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2015 08:44 AM (sPO3u)

249
When he talks I hear 'lawyerlawyerlawyerlawyer' .
I hate it but it's true.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:33 AM (0dcbp)

My brother thinks he comes off as "slick." I have to agree, and it is regrettable because his answer about Supreme Court appointments sounded great.

Posted by: Inbred Crown Posse at September 17, 2015 08:45 AM (sJuWI)

250 What a bunch of simplistic, patronizing bullshit.

GFY. Learn our language or GTFO of my country.

We have rights too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 17, 2015 08:45 AM (LUgeY)

251 We do want Spanish-speaking immigrants to vote Republican and be conservatives, don't we?

After the illegals are removed, we can talk about converting welfare-absorbing Socialists to conservatism.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:45 AM (0dcbp)

252 what language they are most comfortable speaking

Yeah we should definitely spend more Federal funding on making foreign invaders more language-comfortable.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:47 AM (0dcbp)

253 Candidates try to appeal to various demographics. Trump made a stupid remark about Carly and her advisors told her to run with it to possibly get some votes of women. Wow; What a surprise/sarc/.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2015 08:47 AM (dKQ1C)

254 My own grandparents spoke Croatian in their home, and English when they had to, and only then. They voted straight Republican tickets because Democrats were reminders of Tito's communists back in Yugoslavia.

Were they not "assimilated?" My grandfather was a Marine and served this country in the Pacific, then was a steelworker in PA until he retired. Was he not "assimilated?"

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Wait? Your granddad spoke English? Did he speak it in the steel mill? in the Marines?

Did he expect politicians speak to him in Croatian?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:48 AM (LXJ1e)

255 nood art

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:48 AM (0dcbp)

256 >>>A Sunday school teacher was telling her kindergarten class about the Golden Rule, "Remember," she said, "we are here to help others."

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And let us not let the let hypnotize us into forgetting the full scope and prioritization of those "others".

My duty to help Darren Wilson supersedes my duty to help criminals that would kill him. My duty to help Kare Steinle supersedes my duty to help murderers seeking "sanctuary".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 17, 2015 08:50 AM (Qq/It)

257 Carly's takedown of PP I think was one of the two big hits she made last night.

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I hope she can do for PP what Trump did for illegal immigration - force the media to cover it.

Posted by: @votermom at September 17, 2015 08:50 AM (cbfNE)

258 Not sure what the GOPe was thinking when they served that shit sandwich.

The Rules of Succession are very clear on this point:
It's His Turn!

Posted by: Teh GOPe at September 17, 2015 08:50 AM (FcR7P)

259 So - does anyone see any of the clowns onstage last night saving our asses?

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:50 AM (6xtq3)

260 "The problem with speaking Spanish, is I don't know what he is saying.
Nor do I trust him/them to say the the same thing to English American
audiences and Spanish American/illegal audiences."

And here we get to the crux of the problem. I'm not picking on you because I think you express what a lot of mono-lingual conservatives fear.

I do speak Spanish. And Croatian.

It is not Marco Rubio's problem that he is bilingual and you (the collective you) are not. It is your problem.

His job is to win as many votes as he can where he can. If his biligualism opens him up to be able to campaign in areas another candidate can't, that increases his ability to mine for more votes. It's a strength, not a weakness.

Most western leaders speak more than one language. W spoke passable colloquial Spanish. Nobody shit on him for it. Several of our candidates speak more than just English. People need to get over themselves about this. The world isn't going to just cater to the fact that you never bothered to learn another language, and other people who are bilingual are under no obligation to also cater to your ignorance.

"Speak English because otherwise I can't understand you!" Well, whose problem is that?

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:51 AM (ljZD2)

261 Speak whatever language you want.

But no one, including the government, is required to accommodate you.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 17, 2015 08:51 AM (oVJmc)

262

What a bunch of simplistic, patronizing bullshit.

Congratulations. You just described every one of your posts at AOS.

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:51 AM (0dcbp)

263 "Speak English because otherwise I can't understand you!" Well, whose problem is that?
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:51 AM (ljZD2)

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Apparently Rubio's, because I'm not going to vote for somebody that does it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:52 AM (LXJ1e)

264 Remember this?
John McCain to host Hillary Clinton in Sedona, Ariz.
Bet that was an interesting meeting.

http://tinyurl.com/nqhvweq
Posted by: Mortimer

Thanks! I had forgotten about that. McCain is the walking dead zombie of a once decent man.

Posted by: Daybrother simmering resentment at September 17, 2015 08:52 AM (mW11a)

265
"Speak English because otherwise I can't understand you!" Well, whose problem is that?

The unwelcome, illegal foreign invader's problem.

FYNQ

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:53 AM (0dcbp)

266 My own grandparents spoke Croatian in their home, and English when they had to, and only then. They voted straight Republican tickets because Democrats were reminders of Tito's communists back in Yugoslavia.

And wherever your grandparents went - to work or to shop - did they see market signs, business signs and coffee cup warnings of "Caution, this is hot!" printed in Croatian? Did they call up a hospital and hear the operating machine tell them "press 1 for Croatian?"

I don't object to a candidate, if they are able, speaking to an ethnic audience in their own tongue. Fiorello LaGuardia was famous for it. What I do object to is the elevation of Spanish into the US' default second language, as evidenced by the signs you see around you every day.

And Marco "The Cuban Combover" Rubio has already been caught out as an American Arafat, saying one thing in English and another to his Spanish-speaking audience. So, yes, I am prejudiced against him and !Jeb veering off into another language.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:53 AM (zF6Iw)

267 177
I have never in my life seen such a debate set up in such a chaotic
manner, designed to take down one man that failed so miserably.

I have to agree. You get to speak when another candidate mentions/infers/looks at you funny? Really? This is how we debate now?

With that, yes - it was a great WWE wrestling match.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 17, 2015 08:53 AM (DlmoZ)

268 In watching the debate, more specifically Donald Trump's mannerisms. Did anybody notice how he twists his shoulders? Is it me or does he move like he has a stick up his ass?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 17, 2015 08:54 AM (DlmoZ)

269 And Marco "The Cuban Combover" Rubio has already been caught out as an American Arafat, saying one thing in English and another to his Spanish-speaking audience. So, yes, I am prejudiced against him and !Jeb veering off into another language.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:53 AM (zF6Iw)

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Yeah, t'daddy, is that OK with you.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 08:54 AM (LXJ1e)

270
I don't object to a candidate, if they are able, speaking to an
ethnic audience in their own tongue. Fiorello LaGuardia was famous for
it. What I do object to is the elevation of Spanish into the US'
default second language, as evidenced by the signs you see around you
every day.

I'm tired of picking up a box in a store and turning it over and over to find the side that's printed in English.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 17, 2015 08:54 AM (oVJmc)

271 Will the signs in the Camps be bilingual?

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 08:56 AM (6xtq3)

272 50 pages of instructions for 2 pages in English.

Who pays for that , do you think?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 08:56 AM (0dcbp)

273 Most western leaders speak more than one language. W spoke passable colloquial Spanish. Nobody shit on him for it. Several of our candidates speak more than just English. People need to get over themselves about this. The world isn't going to just cater to the fact that you never bothered to learn another language, and other people who are bilingual are under no obligation to also cater to your ignorance.

Finish that off with a side of fresh dog, and you've got your Obama imitation down pat.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:57 AM (zF6Iw)

274
"GFY. Learn our language or GTFO of my country.
We have rights too."

What "rights?" To compel others to be as ignorant as you are with regard to languages?

Fuck that.

"Your country." What a crock of shit. Hey smart guy, what was the first European language spoken in the New World? Guess what, it wasn't English. It was Spanish. Then Portuguese. Then French. Then Dutch and English.

I"m sorry that you never could be bothered to learn another language.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:57 AM (ljZD2)

275 220 I believe he is Lindsey Graham's assistant towel-boy. One of eight.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 08:34 AM (O7MnT)
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Maybe its just me but I'd always imagined assistant towel boys for Ms. Lindsay had to be in better shape.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 09:00 AM (LISuA)

276 Awww, somebody has to turn over a box. Wah, wah, wah.

I guess companies have to not sell things to people fluent in other languages because you have to turn over a box. Ahhh, poor baby.

And I know how much people's widdle feelz are hurt to press a button on their phone. Awww....

OMG, First World Problems for the win.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 09:01 AM (ljZD2)

277 I"m sorry that you never could be bothered to learn another language.

Do you write for amateur webzine Slate by any chance?

Posted by: Mortimer at September 17, 2015 09:02 AM (0dcbp)

278 Maybe its just me but I'd always imagined assistant towel boys for Ms. Lindsay had to be in better shape.

Lindsey Graham likes him some Rough Trade.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 09:02 AM (O7MnT)

279 "Finish that off with a side of fresh dog, and you've got your Obama imitation down pat."

Except that he doesn't speak another language.

In that, apparently he is right in line with the "English-only" nativist crowd.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 09:02 AM (ljZD2)

280 242 Jeb! will waddle on like Huck in 2008 and Santorum in 2012.
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I go back and forth on this one. He might well decide it's too embarrassing to keep up the pretense. Or he might decide to go full-on Hispanic Crusader, just to champion the issue within the GOP. One thing seems pretty certain, though, and that is he's out of the race for the nomination.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 09:03 AM (LISuA)

281 We do want Spanish-speaking immigrants to vote Republican and be conservatives, don't we?

But they won't. It's why you and democrats (but I repeat myself) want them so much. They want the 75% of these invaders that will vote for the progressives (including your boy, Jeb).

Posted by: GMan at September 17, 2015 09:04 AM (sxq57)

282 "Your country." What a crock of shit

Yeah, *my* country, dumbass. Unlike the invaders that aren't here legally, I am an actual citizen of this country.

Now, go get your shinebox.

Posted by: GMan at September 17, 2015 09:06 AM (sxq57)

283 We do want Spanish-speaking immigrants to vote Republican and be conservatives, don't we?

But they won't. It's why you and democrats (but I repeat myself) want them so much. They want the 75% of these invaders that will vote for the progressives (including your boy, Jeb).

Exactly so.

Point me to a Spanish-speaking country with a conservative government.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 09:07 AM (O7MnT)

284 OK, Chile, but Chileans aren't immigrating here en masse.

Posted by: V the K at September 17, 2015 09:07 AM (O7MnT)

285 274 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2015 08:57 AM (ljZD2)
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Shouldn't Russian and Chinese be on the list? The Pacific coast was pretty diverse from the git-go.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 09:08 AM (LISuA)

286 And Marco "The Cuban Combover" Rubio has already been caught out as an American Arafat, saying one thing in English and another to his Spanish-speaking audience. So, yes, I am prejudiced against him and !Jeb veering off into another language.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 17, 2015 08:53 AM (zF6Iw)

Again, this is the problem. If Rubio wants to be seen as untrustworthy, by all means, he can do so. (Same goes for Jeb! not just picking on Rubio).

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 17, 2015 09:10 AM (LXJ1e)

287 Just as a side comment, it is amazing how many Americans think the first post-Columbus European explorers/settlers of America were English.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 09:11 AM (LISuA)

288 274 "Your country." What a crock of shit.
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This, I agree with.

Posted by: MTF at September 17, 2015 09:15 AM (LISuA)

289 00 Buck is a universal language.

Posted by: Weasel at September 17, 2015 09:17 AM (6xtq3)

290 This, I agree with.

Nope, it's *my* country, as a citizen. Unless you're *also* an actual citizen, I don't give a shit about WHAT language you want to speak (and even then, I still don't give a shit). I don't *care* if the first settlers weren't English, because the predominate language has been English for a very very long time.

Posted by: GMan at September 17, 2015 09:18 AM (sxq57)

291 I did think it ironic that in the Reagan Library, Ronald's 11th Commandment was violated so much.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 17, 2015 09:26 AM (1ijHg)

292 221
Carly playing the victim? She dealt it back to Trump in spades.

By chance did you see Bush (by proxy for his wife) play victim because of comments made about her? Demanded Trump apologize? Really Jeb? Does Jeb sit when he pisses?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 17, 2015 09:28 AM (DlmoZ)

293 Will there be another post about bannings? Should I check back at noon or is late afternoon more likely?

Posted by: Asshole Banana Splits Guy at September 17, 2015 09:30 AM (/Reu2)

294 In that, apparently he is right in line with the "English-only" nativist crowd.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy

See how clever I am? I'm playing the race card. Cause I can prove it....No wait; I just like playing it for effect.

Posted by: I blow my daddy at September 17, 2015 09:35 AM (Spluw)

295 Did Bush really say he wanted Thatcher on the $10? Cheese and rice he's the idiot Bush brother.

Harriet Tubman, Harriet Beecher Stowe , Susan B. Anthony, even Queen Latifah. All Americans. Margaret Thatcher: not American.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 17, 2015 10:12 AM (DkXQB)

296 #114 I think you're on to something! I tried to make sense of Coulter's comments on Megan last night and concluded she was drunk or high on something.

Posted by: Annas at September 17, 2015 10:19 AM (P+I7L)

297 Time for GOPe Jihad--which may be the Fiorina ' 'surge'---They got nothin left but total destruction.

Sort of poetic..may be even Biblical.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 17, 2015 10:38 AM (htXhe)

298 295 Jeb called Thatcher Reagan's "partner" which was also weird, like they were swingers. "Ally" or "counterpart" would be more apt. Plus, Susan B. Anthony is already on currency.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 17, 2015 11:01 AM (nCKKS)

299 Rubio's answer about giving more intelligence to Egypt had me shaking my head, too. They have a different government every day of the week, and I don't think we should try to install favorites. It always backfires. Let the Egyptians figure shit out for themselves. They're the only success of the Arab Spring, having ousted the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 17, 2015 11:10 AM (nCKKS)

300 J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2015 06:50 AM (St6BJ)

I bet you're good at crosswords puzzles.

Posted by: bour3 at September 17, 2015 11:24 AM (5x3+2)

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