Overnight Open Thread (9-6-2015)

Quote of the Day I

First, central banks don't spend $150 billion every three weeks, or about $200 billion a month, to support a currency that is close to appropriately valued.

-- Christopher Balding on the coming Chinese devaluation

Quote of the Day II

I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn't be able to fight - we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.

-- Feminist Guardian columnist Julie Bindel with a modest proposal for dealing with the man problem

Quote of the Day III

The original Star Trek savagely parodied such Age of Aquarius romanticism in the episode "The Way to Eden," in which the Enterprise encounters a group of space-age hippies searching for a legendary planet where all will be equal, without technology or modernity, living off the land. Almost all of Kirk's crew regard these star-children as deluded, and their longing for prelapsarian harmony does turn out to be a deadly illusion: the Eden planet they find is literally poison - all the trees and even the grass are full of an acid that kills them almost the instant they arrive. Kirk is hardly surprised. All Edens, in his eyes, are illusions, and all illusions are dangerous.

The culminating moment in Next Generation is the 1998 feature film Insurrection... The Enterprise crew is introduced to the Ba'ku people, who live in the kind of agrarian idyll that the space hippies had sought in "The Way to Eden." Although filmed like a Crate & Barrel ad and scored with pastoral melodies, the Ba'kus' village is shockingly primitive. They rake, plough, weed, and blacksmith by hand - not because they don't know better, but because they reject modern devices... The Ba'ku would have nauseated Captain Kirk... Yet the audience is expected to admire this.

What, Kirk would have demanded, could the Federation possibly learn from this village? A village that has chosen not to explore, that has rejected modern agricultural methods, that has given up growth and life in exchange for an absurd fetishizing of manual labour - for the fundamentally childish notion that you "take something" from people when you create tools and techniques that feed the hungry and liberate people to explore the galaxy.

-- Timothy Sandefur in The Politics of Star Trek

Why No Escape is #Problematic...And Therefore Maybe Worth Seeing

Well the plot sounds interesting and it's been getting pretty good reviews but these SJW anti-reviews may seal the deal for me to go see it in the theater.

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Polar Bears Storm Camp, Take Arctic Researchers Hostage

Fucking polar bears. You know it was just for this very reason that KLM bought AR-10 rifles back in the late 50s for their planes flying trans-polar routes. And to this day not a single KLM passenger or crew member has ever been captured or harmed by a polar bear. Take note, arctic researchers!

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New York's Taxi Cartel Is Collapsing So Of Course They Want a Bailout

Gun Sales Spike Again, Highest Number Of August Checks Ever

In New Study HIV Prevention Pill Truvada Is 100% Effective

The Extraordinary Marquis de Lafayette

Born into a French aristocratic military family he decided at age 18 that the American revolution was his fight as well. He made his way to America against the French King's orders, learning English during the voyage, and within just a few months after landing had proved his mettle in battle and was made a Major General in the Continental Army. His leadership at several key battles helped the Americans defeat the British despite being outmanned and outgunned.

Unfortunately for him, the rest of the French army and government were not ready. England threatened war if France allied with the rebels in the insurrection. His father-in-law, who was also his commander, ordered him to go to London to apologize to no less than the King of England. That is an indication of how important this teenage boy was, and the intensity of the strain in French and British relations.

After three weeks of making the social rounds in London, Lafayette returned to France but not Versailles. He wrote his father-in-law and said he was going to America to fight anyway. Infuriated, his father-in-law had Louis XVI issue an arrest warrant. Lafayette went to Bordeaux, bought a ship, and headed to America to fight for liberty.

His ship landed on North Island near Georgetown, South Carolina, on June 13, 1777, and headed for Philadelphia. He greatly impressed George Washington, who was a fellow Mason, but getting the Continental Congress to commission Lafayette as an officer took some doing. Washington nevertheless used this well-trained officer at the Battle of Brandywine on September 11, 1777, before Lafayette received a commission. Shot in the leg during the battle, Lafayette kept his head and turned a chaotic disaster into an orderly retreat.

And his life after the Revolution was just as interesting and eventful.

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The USS O'Bannon and the Potato Battle of 1943

Destroyer Squadron 21 was returning after a night of shelling Japanese positions in the New Georgia area, in the Solomons. Destroyer USS O'Bannon, main character of this short little story, picked up a radar contact that turned out to be Japanese submarine Ro-34. The submarine was on the surface, not expecting a squadron of destroyers to be nearby.

The commanding officer, Commander George Philip Jr., ordered the tin can to approach and ram the submarine. At the last minute, the officers on the bridge could not identify the submarine and decided that it might be a mine layer. Not wise ramming a mine layer and sinking your ship in the process, right? To avoid the unwanted collision, O'Bannon made a hard turn - and that put her alongside the submarine, "in a rather embarrassing situation", as crewman Ernest A. Herr put it.

No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy. But, what if your ship is so close to the enemy, that your guns can't even depress low enough to fire?

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War Criminal Ice Cream

(thanks to the Political Hat)

News You Can Use: An Inmate's Guide To Partying in Prison

Polish John wasn't a bad guy -- he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Four times, in fact. When I met him, he was doing 20 years. A cherubic and likable serial burglar, John had a neighborhood politician's talent for remembering names and cracking jokes. He could have been the guy in the bar who's always there and never pays. Since he spent much of his life behind the wall, he instead schmoozed with both cops and convicts until everyone was taking care of him. He kept his huge belly full with boxes of pork chops that cops left for him in unlocked refrigerators. Back in the block, inmate chefs often made extra bowls "to take care of Johnnyboy."

John was irresistible, and one day he let me in on the secret of his good humor: he was drunk, every day, year after year, on his own hooch.

Against Their Own Interest: Porn Studio Offers to Pay For Correction Surgery For Man With 19 Inch Penis

New Toy in Japan: Sperm Viewer

They say the science you do yourself is the most educational. And enjoyable.

spemviewer

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [456 comments] 'Anna Puma' [64.01 posts/day]
2 [454 comments] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
3 [448 comments] 'mynewhandle'
4 [441 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
5 [357 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
6 [343 comments] 'Lizzy'
7 [287 comments] 'Turd Ferguson'
8 [283 comments] 'AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale'
9 [271 comments] 'BackwardsBoy'
10 [266 comments] 'Caitlyn Jenner'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [86 names] 'The Political Hat' [12.07 unique names/day]
2 [64 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
3 [59 names] 'Turd Ferguson'
4 [46 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
5 [40 names] 'Count de Monet'
6 [38 names] 'Not Absinthe- but Late Harvest Riesling-drinker Guy'
7 [36 names] 'Doctor Fish'
8 [32 names] 'Turd Ferguson'
9 [31 names] 'logprof'
10 [31 names] 'Bernie Madoff'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by also 80% of all pregnancies:

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Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. End of ONT transmission - channel returned to regular cat picture service.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:23 PM




Comments

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1

Ahhh ... finally. The Hillary Thread has been replaced.

Time to turn off the music

Requiem for a Candidate: Blue Oyster Cult, Burnin' For You"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipqqEFoJPL4

... and stop looking at the devotees

Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2015 11:25 PM (FlRtG)

2 time slip

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at September 06, 2015 11:25 PM (kHJ3a)

3 Hillary seems like a nice person. Someone that you would like to have a drink with. If everyone else was dead.

Posted by: goon at September 06, 2015 11:28 PM (gy5kE)

4 Good god Japan you are so f'n weird.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 06, 2015 11:29 PM (BO/km)

5 Torches/Pitchforks 2016

Posted by: davidt at September 06, 2015 11:30 PM (1i+dZ)

6 What, Kirk would have demanded, could the Federation possibly learn from this village? A village that has chosen not to explore, that has rejected modern agricultural methods, that has given up growth and life in exchange for an absurd fetishizing of manual labour - for the fundamentally childish notion that you "take something" from people when you create tools and techniques that feed the hungry and liberate people to explore the galaxy.

-- Timothy Sandefur in The Politics of Star Trek


Uh ... Kirk only cared about banging space chicks and Star Trek was warmed over commie pablum.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 06, 2015 11:30 PM (zc3Db)

7 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 06, 2015 11:30 PM (YJmuy)

8 Aloha!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:30 PM (EzgxV)

9 Taught Pookette "You Are A Pirate" by Alestorm as she was playing with her pirate ship in the bathtub tonight. "YARRR YARRR TEEDLE DEE!" Man, that girl knows how to fire a cannon.......

Posted by: pookysgirl can jump (in a pool) at September 06, 2015 11:31 PM (noMUg)

10 If you want to see another aspect of the Marquis de Lafayatte (whose name is all over streets and rivers in Virginia), look up the remarkable life of James Armistead (Lafayette), who also is the namesake of numerous places in Viriginia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Armistead_Lafayette

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champ at September 06, 2015 11:31 PM (vsbNu)

11 Uh ... Kirk only cared about banging space chicks and Star Trek was warmed over commie pablum.

Kirk knew that once you go green, you never come clean.

Wait, that can't be right.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 06, 2015 11:32 PM (YJmuy)

12 Howdy all.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 06, 2015 11:32 PM (Wo9OY)

13 Damn. I read the content and still made the top 20.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 06, 2015 11:33 PM (Wo9OY)

14 hi all
thank you for the great content as always Maet
you deserve a raise

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:33 PM (2XMpf)

15 Oh, and the Moron Football League lived up to its name, because I may be the only owner in fantasydom who got to pick Le'veon Bell at #9.

I smell repeat.

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champ at September 06, 2015 11:35 PM (vsbNu)

16

Herbert!
Herbert!
Herbert!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2015 11:35 PM (W5DcG)

17 I smell repeat.
Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champ

We're not talking a repeat, a threepeat, or even a fourpeat. We're talking a minimum eightpeat.

Posted by: Bill Swerski's Super Fans at September 06, 2015 11:37 PM (awspb)

18 Let the Hildebeest get elected to preezy, and I'll be willing to bet you we will surpass Russia in the deaths by alcohol category. Hands down.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 06, 2015 11:38 PM (9iR5/)

19 Heya cooth

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:39 PM (zyIlW)

20 "The culminating moment in Next Generation is the 1998 feature film Insurrection... The Enterprise crew is introduced to the Ba'ku people, who live in the kind of agrarian idyll that the space hippies had sought in "The Way to Eden." Although filmed like a Crate & Barrel ad and scored with pastoral melodies, the Ba'kus' village is shockingly primitive. They rake, plough, weed, and blacksmith by hand - not because they don't know better, but because they reject modern devices... The Ba'ku would have nauseated Captain Kirk... Yet the audience is expected to admire this."

Well, there was another reason why Picard wanted to help the Ba'ku. In the words of Mr. Plinkett, a certain Milf-y Ba'ku wanted to "access Picard's manual steering column."

http://tinyurl.com/64aaggu

Posted by: Thrawn at September 06, 2015 11:40 PM (wZ2hu)

21 That Trek episode is good. But, the Lost In Space episode "Promised Planet' is arguably better. The space hippies turn out to be more like the Manson Family and Doctor smith gets down andhip with them. Plus Penny grooves out.

Posted by: otho at September 06, 2015 11:40 PM (d8udV)

22 HOOORDE

In honor of Labor Day, I will not labor tomorrow.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 06, 2015 11:41 PM (e+1S5)

23
The censored thingie behind the black rectangle in frame #3 greatly puzzles me. (You rock, Japan!)

What can it be? A bottle of Elmer's Glue? A packet of mayonaise? What? What?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 06, 2015 11:42 PM (VLTL9)

24 Julie Bindel is somewhat fucked in the head. They used to lock up crazy. Ah, the good ole days.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 06, 2015 11:42 PM (tjAPZ)

25 SMFH, I am sorry to report that I have not drafted any Raiders in any of my fantasy leagues. I did get a homer pick with the Chiefs D in one league.

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champ at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (vsbNu)

26 TY for the ONT. You just wlllowed me on the last thread.

Be well all, I think I feel a nap coming on. Might see you later.

Posted by: Farmer at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (o/90i)

27 So, we're racists, and we also hate polar bears. News flash, dipshit... Polar bears are WHITE.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (wKc1L)

28 25,

*shrugs*

Ok.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (zyIlW)

29 Good for you DC

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (2XMpf)

30 Just popped in to say,

http://bit.ly/gwill-gone

George Will is just getting weirder and weirder.

Kim Davis = George Wallace? (sorta)

Go away, George Will. Just... go 'way.

Evening, gates. Let's recreate!

Posted by: mindful webworker - imho at September 06, 2015 11:44 PM (ACs58)

31 What can it be? A bottle of Elmer's Glue? A packet of mayonaise? What? What?

Hillary's denture cream?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:45 PM (2XMpf)

32 Central banks are losing control, and the first quote is a symptom of it. The debt/monetization bubble is ending.

The Chinese central bank (that which sources and sinks the yuan) is having to dump Ts (US Treasuries) in order to support the yuan. The Gulf states (axis of oil) are also having to start dumping Ts as the oil price collapse means they start running deficits and have to burn reserves (or issue debt of their own).

That should start putting upward pressure on Uncle's borrowing rates (supply of Ts into the market is rising, making rates increase). If QuEeen Janet doesn't like that, she's gonna have to do something (MOAR T monetization).

All of these forces are having the effect of trying to prick the stock/market price bubble out there, supported by all the central bank liquidity. I don't even pretend to understand all the monetary forces at work. And they don't either, our central bank, central planner wizards of smart.

September is always a good month for a major crash (why that is, there are seasonal theories).

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 06, 2015 11:45 PM (dvuhZ)

33 28 25,

*shrugs*

Ok.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM (zyIlW)

--There was one dynasty league where I thought I could snag Cooper, but I was not picking high enough. I am going to suck in that league, because I inherited a weak team.

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champ at September 06, 2015 11:45 PM (vsbNu)

34 You had one job---get the one, single, lone guy on an asteroid!

You're demoted. Get out.

Posted by: Space Command HQ at September 06, 2015 11:46 PM (7eC3Q)

35 Julie Bindel "looks" every bit as "lovely" as her comment suggests.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 06, 2015 11:46 PM (tjAPZ)

36 Is "The Way to Eden" the ep in which Spock gets high and McCoy gets all mellow?

Posted by: otho at September 06, 2015 11:47 PM (d8udV)

37 George Will is just getting weirder and weirder.
Posted by: mindful webworker - imho

George Will es conservativo spectacularrrrrrr. Y bow ties es muy macho.

Posted by: El Jefe HEB Boosh at September 06, 2015 11:47 PM (awspb)

38 34 You had one job---get the one, single, lone guy on an asteroid!

You're demoted. Get out.
Posted by: Space Command HQ at September 06, 2015 11:46 PM (7eC3Q)


I'm baaaaack!

Posted by: The Little Prince at September 06, 2015 11:47 PM (vsbNu)

39 33,

Boy, do I understand.

Posted by: Jack Del Rio at September 06, 2015 11:48 PM (zyIlW)

40 George Will is just getting weirder and weirder.

He wants to bring in lot of middle easterners also.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2015 11:48 PM (W5DcG)

41 It's been more or less my understanding that the entire modern economy runs on a giant 3-card Monty game of debt. Just shuffle the debt around and around and around, forever...?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:48 PM (2XMpf)

42 Note.... Layfayette was the only Legal Dual Citizen of the US, at least up until the COURTs change the law in 1967 making dual citizenship OK... (and I note, that once again the Constitution is clear that citizenship is under the power of the Congress, and law, not the COURTs...).

He was granted that status by a special act of Congress...

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 06, 2015 11:49 PM (qh617)

43 george will has always been odd.....i've never liked him....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 06, 2015 11:49 PM (0O7c5)

44
36 Is "The Way to Eden" the ep in which Spock gets high and McCoy gets all mellow?

Posted by: otho at September 06, 2015 11:47 PM (d8udV)


Herbert!!!

Posted by: Space Hippy at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (qh617)

45 Week 1 in the Moron League will be a rematch of last year's championship game.


Elbows will be prolific!

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champion at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (vsbNu)

46 That cloud looks like a dragon!

How about a blowjob?

Posted by: pollen high Spock at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (7eC3Q)

47 Good evening, fellow 'Rons and 'Ettes!

It's that time of year again, and we're planning a reprise of last year's SW Ohio MoMe:

Saturday evening, October 17, 7-10 (ish), Beavercreek (I've also locked down a better venue).

Interested parties please let me know: swohmome @ mail.com (no spaces).

Thanks!

Posted by: speedster1 at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (1brdf)

48
Had he been aware of the availability of the sperm viewer, the young man caught cuffing the carrot by his mother (and the recording of the ensuing dialogue communicated to us by Thrawn several weeks ago) would have been able to say (with great anguish), "But, Mom, I was doing SCIENCE!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (VLTL9)

49 I'm getting pretty tired of these polar bears throwing their weight around and screwing up our global warming research! They need to get a job!

Posted by: goon at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (gy5kE)

50 19 Heya cooth

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:39 PM (zyIlW)




Howdy, howdy!!!




Just to let everyone in on current events -- the fiancee and I just returned from an 18-day roadtrip that hit Salem, Seattle, Victoria (Canada) and Vancouver (Canada). It was so badly prepared that we didn't have reservations for the last four nights until we were halfway through the trip.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (EzgxV)

51 More than 30% of all deaths in Russia in 2012 were attributable to alcohol

Sounds like we need to get cracking. We cannot have an alcohol gap!

Posted by: rickl at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (sdi6R)

52 George Will is a great writer, but I think sometimes he tries too hard to be too clever in his writing.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:51 PM (2XMpf)

53 >>>Good for you DC

That's not entirely true. I'll put in 90 minutes at the gym in the morning. By noon, I plan on having a cold one and be chilling by the pool.

As for tonight, we're watching Peaky Blinders. Good show and worth a watch if you've got Netflix.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 06, 2015 11:51 PM (e+1S5)

54 Boy, do I understand.
Posted by: Jack Del Rio at September 06, 2015 11:48 PM (zyIlW)

SMFH is a great sockpuppeteer in the vein of kbdabear.

[bows]

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champion at September 06, 2015 11:52 PM (vsbNu)

55 Remember George Will was the first to bring up "boxcars" re deporting illegals even before Shrillary.

I've come to realize that "our guys", the conservative intelligentsia, are just as bad as the lefty intelligentsia. They think the same way, just hold some "conservative" views, but exist in that same world framed by the left.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 06, 2015 11:52 PM (dvuhZ)

56 Had he been aware of the availability of the sperm viewer, the young man caught cuffing the carrot by his mother (and the recording of the ensuing dialogue communicated to us by Thrawn several weeks ago) would have been able to say (with great anguish), "But, Mom, I was doing SCIENCE!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Mmmmmmm. I fuckin' love Science! Yeah, do that Science! thang.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 06, 2015 11:52 PM (awspb)

57 Just to let everyone in on current events -- the
fiancee and I just returned from an 18-day roadtrip that hit Salem,
Seattle, Victoria (Canada) and Vancouver (Canada). It was so badly
prepared that we didn't have reservations for the last four nights until
we were halfway through the trip.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (EzgxV)

Hey hope you had a great trip otherwise!
And eh making reservations when roadtripping can be kinda difficult, you don't always know when you will have car troubles or when there will be traffic congestion or when you just want to stay longer in a certain city than what you had planned on

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:52 PM (2XMpf)

58 Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:43 PM

Good luck w/ that Chi dude. Seems like a nice guy, but you never know.

Posted by: Farmer at September 06, 2015 11:53 PM (o/90i)

59 41 It's been more or less my understanding that the entire modern economy runs on a giant 3-card Monty game of debt. Just shuffle the debt around and around and around, forever...?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:48 PM (2XMpf)



That gets about 80% of it in very damned few words. There are nuances, however....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:54 PM (EzgxV)

60 Just to let everyone in on current events -- the fiancee and I just returned from an 18-day roadtrip that hit Salem, Seattle, Victoria (Canada) and Vancouver (Canada). It was so badly prepared that we didn't have reservations for the last four nights until we were halfway through the trip.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (EzgxV)


--Victoria is one of the 10 prettiest cities I have visited. Did you get to visit Buttchart Gardens?

Victoria > Vancouver (IMO)

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champion at September 06, 2015 11:54 PM (vsbNu)

61 farmer,

Thanks : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 06, 2015 11:55 PM (zyIlW)

62 48
Had he been aware of the availability of the sperm viewer, the young man caught cuffing the carrot by his mother (and the recording of the ensuing dialogue communicated to us by Thrawn several weeks ago) would have been able to say (with great anguish), "But, Mom, I was doing SCIENCE!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (VLTL9)

Science, like becoming scared, may or may not cause your pants to slip down, .

Posted by: Thrawn at September 06, 2015 11:55 PM (wZ2hu)

63 #36 No. Mellow/stoned Spock and McCoy was in "This Side of Paradise".

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/This_Side_of_Paradise_(episode)

Posted by: andycanuck at September 06, 2015 11:56 PM (7eC3Q)

64 Hey if that Chi fellow doesn't work out, I'm available...

Posted by: Xi at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (2XMpf)

65 Sure! Discriminate against spaces at your private fucking party!!! But don't tell me: some of your best friends are spaces but you wouldn't let your sister marry one! Right?! Right?!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (7eC3Q)

66 #36 No. Mellow/stoned Spock and McCoy was in "This Side of Paradise".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 06, 2015 11:56 PM

Ah, ok. That's the one with the trippy fungus shit, no?

Posted by: otho at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (d8udV)

67 Hello, ONT.

Posted by: Piercello at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (RXfvh)

68 "Spock's brain" is the episode that describes the left's idea of paradise. One smart person will run everything while everyone else lives a childlike existence.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (5zyvn)

69 I have a copy of a fan edit of Generations (that was the Kirk-Picard movie, right?) - with the Kirk/TOS parts edited out. I'd read that it made it kind-of a decent Trek Next Gen episode.

I've had that in the library for a long, long time, but, much as I want to see the fan edit, I've never watched it.

I figured, by rights, I should review the original film before watching the fan edit, for comparison's sake.

But... But.. I've blocked it all out -- the whole movie. I remember some scene with Picard hovering over Kirk, maybe the death scene?, but nothing else.

This dilemma might never be resolved.

Posted by: mindful webworker - keep on trekkin' at September 06, 2015 11:59 PM (ACs58)

70 57 Just to let everyone in on current events -- the
fiancee and I just returned from an 18-day roadtrip that hit Salem,
Seattle, Victoria (Canada) and Vancouver (Canada). It was so badly
prepared that we didn't have reservations for the last four nights until
we were halfway through the trip.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (EzgxV)
Hey hope you had a great trip otherwise!
And eh making reservations when roadtripping can be kinda difficult, you don't always know when you will have car troubles or when there will be traffic congestion or when you just want to stay longer in a certain city than what you had planned on

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2015 11:52 PM (2XMpf)




We got to our Vancouver hotel, and the fiancee was like, "it's a dump, isn't this horrible?"



They had unprecedented windstorms that took down power for half-a-million people for 36 hours and had just recovered power about 3 hours previous to our arrival.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:59 PM (EzgxV)

71 Happy-ish Sunday Evening, all y'all ...

need to clean - so hare today, goon tomorrow ...

Posted by: Adriane the Irrelevant Critic ... at September 06, 2015 11:59 PM (qOsoH)

72 66
#36 No. Mellow/stoned Spock and McCoy was in "This Side of Paradise".



Posted by: andycanuck at September 06, 2015 11:56 PM



Ah, ok. That's the one with the trippy fungus shit, no?

Posted by: otho at September 06, 2015 11:58 PM (d8udV)

That's the one with the plant spores that sprayed on everyone and caused them to forget everything and want to turn into hippies

Posted by: Xi at September 07, 2015 12:00 AM (2XMpf)

73 A Thank Yee Kindly to Maet for the ONT, though ...

Posted by: Adriane the Irrelevant Critic ... at September 07, 2015 12:00 AM (qOsoH)

74 Bernie Madoff posts here? Oy.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:00 AM (AVEe1)

75 #65 Sorry, speedster. I tend to go off when someone attacks spaces because my family tells me there's a space between my ears so I tend to take it personally. Sorry.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 07, 2015 12:00 AM (7eC3Q)

76 Club for Growth is going to run ads in September about how Trump is "Not A Real Conserative." In June, they wanted their best buddy, Donald Trump to contribute $1 Million Dollars to the club.

I guess we know what their price is now.
I wonder what their cost is?

Posted by: rd at September 07, 2015 12:01 AM (ANcQx)

77 The The Politics of Star Trek article is very good. I always hated Piccard.

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at September 07, 2015 12:02 AM (rwI+c)

78 The thing to realize is everything you have, your "savings" your assets, save the real "stuff" you have (property, buildings, physical stuff) is basically someone's else debt. The "paper" (really electronic bits now mostly) you own, whether stocks, bonds, etc, etc, depend on someone's else's word, their promises to do work/production.

Debt deflation, collapse, is when that illusion comes to an end, when it becomes obvious that a whole lot of those promises are worth nothing. Your assets are nothing but dog shit in a bag.

That process started in earnest in the Crash of '08, but governments, and central banks stepped into to try to save the system by trying to keep the debt bubble illusion going.

They can't go that forever. The laws of physics will assert themselves.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 12:02 AM (dvuhZ)

79 That's the one with the trippy fungus shit, no?
More like pollen "spores" but yeah more or less.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 07, 2015 12:02 AM (7eC3Q)

80 35 Julie Bindel "looks" every bit as "lovely" as her comment suggests.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 06, 2015 11:46 PM (tjAPZ)


You made me click on that. Damn you.

Posted by: rickl at September 07, 2015 12:02 AM (sdi6R)

81 Last time I saw a movie called "No Escape", this happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG1rMcZDQxA

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:02 AM (AVEe1)

82 Eh I thought Generations was a decent way to transition from Kirk to Picard.

It was obvious that they were very different captains of course.

But their similarities were way more important, i.e., sense of duty and love of the Enterprise.

At least that's what I got out of it.

Posted by: Xi at September 07, 2015 12:03 AM (2XMpf)

83 oops Greek letter sock/off

Posted by: chemjeff at September 07, 2015 12:03 AM (2XMpf)

84 There was another potato throwing incident with Japanese navy. I do not recall which U.S. ship it was that they sank, but as they passed by, the Japs flung potatoes at the survivors in the water.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:03 AM (9mTYi)

85 24 Julie Bindel is somewhat fucked in the head.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 06, 2015 11:42 PM (tjAPZ)

Not unrepresentative.

Posted by: rrpjr at September 07, 2015 12:04 AM (s/yC1)

86 Logprof @ 10
FWIW, the portion of the Lafayette River that I know well is not very pretty, but has good crabs. Much of it is nothing more than a tidal swamp. With floating trash, tires, and the occasional dead body.

And Armistead Ave is not somewhere you want to break down after dark, if you know what I mean...

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:04 AM (dTd8m)

87 I just farted.

Posted by: Joey B. at September 07, 2015 12:05 AM (vsbNu)

88 * points, laughs at Xi's Trekky comment *

(kidding)

(but I really don't remember the movie)

_____

Anna!

Puma!

Anna!

Puma!

Anna!

Puma!

#1!1!1!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Farscape! at September 07, 2015 12:05 AM (ACs58)

89 But the tigers come at night, with their voices soft as thunder...

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 07, 2015 12:05 AM (yxw0r)

90 George Will is demonically possessed it's the only thing that could possibly explain that level of concentrated stupidity.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:05 AM (WVvzl)

91

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:59 PM (EzgxV)

So did you end up staying in the hotel?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 07, 2015 12:06 AM (2XMpf)

92 chemjeff: oops Greek letter sock/off

It was fortuitous

Posted by: mindful webworker - for two it us at September 07, 2015 12:06 AM (ACs58)

93 Club for Growth is going to run ads in September about how Trump is "Not A Real Conserative." In June, they wanted their best buddy, Donald Trump to contribute $1 Million Dollars to the club. [i/]

Nice. I wonder who fronted the Club For Growth that million instead. Chamber of Commerce be my guess.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:06 AM (AVEe1)

94 AAUGH

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:07 AM (AVEe1)

95 There was another potato throwing incident with Japanese navy. I do not recall which U.S. ship it was that they sank, but as they passed by, the Japs flung potatoes at the survivors in the water.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

There's a joke about the Irish Navy in there somewhere.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 07, 2015 12:07 AM (awspb)

96 Tigers? In Africa?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 07, 2015 12:07 AM (7eC3Q)

97 86 Logprof @ 10
FWIW, the portion of the Lafayette River that I know well is not very pretty, but has good crabs. Much of it is nothing more than a tidal swamp. With floating trash, tires, and the occasional dead body.

And Armistead Ave is not somewhere you want to break down after dark, if you know what I mean...
Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:04 AM (dTd8m)

--Heh, you're Navy?

Technically, the Lafayette "River" is nore an inlet of the Chesapeake Bay. To be fair, Armistead Ave. is one of the gates of Langley AFB though.

And James Armistead was a BMF.

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:07 AM (vsbNu)

98 I spent part of the day digging out flower beds and shoveling wood chips into them.
I am truly out of shape.


Posted by: Kindltot at September 07, 2015 12:08 AM (3pRHP)

99 Tennessee judge rules that a straight couple cannot get a divorce because of Supreme Court ruling defining what marriage is with their recent ruling.
From Weasel Zippers
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p8dpphx

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:08 AM (9iR5/)

100 Club for Growth - that's the hair-restorer folks with the commercial of the guy who says, I'm not just a customer, I own he company, right? Figures they'd go after the guy with the mutant hair.

Posted by: mindful webworker - trumpity dumpity at September 07, 2015 12:09 AM (ACs58)

101 The hordes of "refugees" allowed into Germany are proof of the Germans' love of scat porn.

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:09 AM (vsbNu)

102 Club for Growth - that's the hair-restorer folks with the commercial of the guy who says, I'm not just a customer, I own he company, right? Figures they'd go after the guy with the mutant hair.
Posted by: mindful webworker - trumpity dumpity

They put my plugs in upside-down, now I no think so good.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 07, 2015 12:10 AM (awspb)

103 Cooth, sounds like quite the trip.

*checks to see what my hash is up to*

Posted by: Piercello at September 07, 2015 12:11 AM (RXfvh)

104 Chemjeff is here...
I was looking for you a few days back. It's too little, too late now, though. Toxic or not, we're still alive.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:11 AM (dTd8m)

105 Ah, some kind of mutant prescription.

Posted by: Piercello at September 07, 2015 12:11 AM (RXfvh)

106 I figured Kirk was more Heinlein (a navy-man btw); and Picard was more Asimov. The tension in Asimov's books, especially the Foundation books, lies in how the protagonist will win without having to fight.

That last episode (or, penultimate episode, dependent on how you count these things) with Ro Larren kind of undermines the whole TNG premise though. Seems that real men or, in Ro's case, women will take a look at the Federation and say, fuck it, I'm raising the black flag and slitting throats with the Maquis. :^)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:11 AM (AVEe1)

107 George Will is a GOPe tool but I will have an undying gratitude for him anyway. Look up the time that Bill Maher was on that Sunday morning political yap show that Will is on. Maher thinks he is smart. George Will showed otherwise. I can watch that on Youtube over and over. Its pundit porn in a good way.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:12 AM (tjAPZ)

108 My theory about Star Trek.

If you go back to The Original Series, you see a Federation with a bit of the progressive utopianism, but tempered with the reality of a galaxy full of dangers. Earth has fought wars against the Romulans, Andorians, and Klingons. The primitive state of warp travel means starships are often on their own for months, and that wide-flung colonies are targets. Starfleet is oriented towards defending the Federation first, and exploration second.

Then comes Star Trek VI. The destruction of Praxis leaves the Klingon Empire severely weakened, forcing them to sue for peace with the Federation. An attempt by the Klingon military, along with members of Starfleet, fails, but has the effect of causing political upheaval in both nations. In the Klingon Empire, the military is further weakened leaving the Empire vulnerable to external threats such as the Romulans. Meanwhile, in the Federation a radical pacifist movement gains power and quickly neuters Starfleet. Officers are purged and replaced. Much of the fleet is restructured to be officer heavy, removing any NCO corps. The Klingons go from being a threat to being the potential muscle needed if the Federation ever goes to war, while the Romulans turn inward to deal with their own internal issues. All this means that Starfleet is seen less as the first line of defense and instead is seen as an exploratory force as the Federation rapidly expands to incorporate new expanses of territory. Starfleet's budget is slashed, and they are forced to rely on a largely aging fleet to continue their mission, while the Federation takes advantage of their "peace dividend" to provide goodies to the inhabitants of Earth and other select colonies. Colonies out of favor, or those that start to fall apart are simply cut loose rather than invest the resources to save them.

By the time of The Next Generation, Starfleet has begun to recover. The war with the Cardassians has forced military-oriented officers back towards the top and Starfleet has begun to rearm in the face of new hostile threats. Unfortunately, some of the vestiges of the previous policies still remain. The civilians/families on board is one. The worship of the Prime Directive is another. I'd imagine that most of those were cleared away by the Dominion War.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 12:13 AM (fC9RO)

109 @93

It is no longer clear what "true conservatism" is any longer and what it can achieve politically.

And with the SCOTUS basically making it up now does it even matter.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:13 AM (WVvzl)

110 95
There was another potato throwing incident with Japanese navy. I do not
recall which U.S. ship it was that they sank, but as they passed by, the
Japs flung potatoes at the survivors in the water.
-------------
Something so very wrong with this. On a sub, your supplies are very limited, and resupply is kind of iffy, during WWII. Why are you throwing food at somebody you just sunk? A humanitarian gesture perhaps? An in your face Die Yankee Pig gesture? Either way, you're throwing food at your enemy. Having read a lot of WWII history, it just seems bizarre. After Tarawa, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. From either side.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:15 AM (9iR5/)

111 @99

Well if the SCOTUS can pull shit out of its ass why can't everyone play the game.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:15 AM (WVvzl)

112 is bebes still around?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 07, 2015 12:15 AM (0O7c5)

113 ♬ Making your way
in the world today
takes everything you've got.

♫ Taking a break
from all your worries,
sure would help a lot.

♬ Wouldn't you like to get away?

Sometimes you want to go

Where everybody knows your name,
and they're screaming
for the banhammer
when you show up.... ♭

(Cheers Online?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - never watched it, actually at September 07, 2015 12:15 AM (ACs58)

114 George Will showed otherwise. I can watch that on Youtube over and over. Its pundit porn in a good way.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:12 AM (tjAPZ)

Check out when Hitchens gave the finger to Maher's audience, and wiped the smug look off Maher's face like nobody's business.

Posted by: rrpjr at September 07, 2015 12:16 AM (s/yC1)

115 101 The hordes of "refugees" allowed into Germany are proof of the Germans' love of scat porn.
Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:09 AM (vsbNu)

They'll also push up the date when Europe officially becomes part of the new Islamic Caliphate.

That, or push up the date when Europe slides back in fascism.

Whichever faction wins, we all lose.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 12:17 AM (wZ2hu)

116 Chi, what is going on? Did you drink drain cleaner on a dare again?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 07, 2015 12:17 AM (2XMpf)

117 Something so very wrong with this. On a sub, your supplies are very limited, and resupply is kind of iffy, during WWII. Why are you throwing food at somebody you just sunk? A humanitarian gesture perhaps? An in your face Die Yankee Pig gesture? Either way, you're throwing food at your enemy. Having read a lot of WWII history, it just seems bizarre. After Tarawa, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. From either side.
Posted by: Old Blue
-----------------

As I recall, the U.S. ship that went down was a Destroyer, and the Jap ship was a cruiser.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:17 AM (9mTYi)

118 Damm your eyes, I just had to look that Guardinista up didn't I." Shudder"

Posted by: NZ Frank at September 07, 2015 12:17 AM (bgJ0E)

119 George Will's a good writer. Oddly, he seems to be a better writer now than 15 years ago.

But...lately...every once in a while, he's been succumbing to libertarian kicks--off the top of my head, implying Churchill set up the Lusitania to be torpedoed and being unwilling to admit recent cases of where American foreign intervention has done good.

Posted by: AD at September 07, 2015 12:19 AM (s4wTA)

120 Colorado Alex, I suspect you're right except for : while the Romulans turn inward to deal with their own internal issues.

I don't know that the Romulans had internal issues in this time, so much as that they needed time off to figure out what to do with the new balance of power. My guess would be that their Tal Shiar (sp?) would have been sending out lots of agents. Maybe they had a hand in the Federation decadence?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:19 AM (AVEe1)

121 Hooray! I made the list THRICE and managed to turn in my homework on time (actually 15 minutes early).

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 07, 2015 12:19 AM (PEFlK)

122 MH, if you get a chance, read "Halseys Typhoon". Pretty decent book.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:19 AM (9iR5/)

123 I don't know that the Romulans had internal issues in this time, so much as that they needed time off to figure out what to do with the new balance of power. My guess would be that their Tal Shiar (sp?) would have been sending out lots of agents. Maybe they had a hand in the Federation decadence?

I always figured it was some external threat on the far side of their empire, or a massive internal power struggle brought on by the fact that their two biggest threats were severely weakened.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 12:21 AM (fC9RO)

124 I can watch that on Youtube over and over. Its pundit porn in a good way.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:12 AM (tjAPZ)

--Linky?

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:21 AM (vsbNu)

125 Cooth -
I guess you weren't too far from Port Angeles. I remember Gramps taking me down to the ferry and pointing out Vancouver across the water (straits of Juan de Fuca?).

Never got to go there, though i wanted to.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:21 AM (dTd8m)

126 while the Romulans turn inward to deal with their own internal issues.
---------
But then you get to Nemesis.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:21 AM (9iR5/)

127 The crazy thing I just discovered is that Germany has the population of CA, TX and NY combined in an area smaller than Montana and they are going to add about a million refugees.

There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.

Almost as if some grand plan was being executed.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (WVvzl)

128 But then you get to Nemesis.

That movie didn't happen.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (AVEe1)

129 60 Just to let everyone in on current events -- the fiancee and I just returned from an 18-day roadtrip that hit Salem, Seattle, Victoria (Canada) and Vancouver (Canada). It was so badly prepared that we didn't have reservations for the last four nights until we were halfway through the trip.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:50 PM (EzgxV)


--Victoria is one of the 10 prettiest cities I have visited. Did you get to visit Buttchart Gardens?

Victoria > Vancouver (IMO)

Posted by: logprof, Moron Football League champion at September 06, 2015 11:54 PM (vsbNu)




We did, indeed, visit the Butchart Gardens -- that was what lured us to Victoria (they regularly have a booth at the annual San Francisco Flower + Garden Show). The weather was iffy, but we also managed to do a whale-watching trip in a zodiac (1 Minke, 2 Humpbacks, and a metric fuckton of orcas). We didn't do much in central Vancouver beyond Stanley Park, so I can't really compare one to the other downtown-wise.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

130 Some contemplative music for the evening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkdwBgp2NC4

I might have found some people to play this one with. That would be nice.

Posted by: Piercello at September 07, 2015 12:23 AM (RXfvh)

131 If some guy was out there blogging about how women should be put in camps, wonder how that would go. WTF is up with this whole man hating thing? I guess I'm too young, though I'm not young at all, to get this. Men perform acts of bravery, do dirty jobs, lick things I don't want to, etc. Why the hate? Men are awesome! And they will kill spiders and wash your car.

Posted by: Kalneva at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (7WoJI)

132 Remember when the crew of the Enterprise had to fight off the Kardashians, and it was really tough because Kirk kept banging the least repulsive ones?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (PEFlK)

133 Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 12:13 AM (fC9RO)

That is a nice theory.

Don't forget about the Borg playing a role in the rearming of Starfleet in TNG, after the battle of Wolf 359.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (wZ2hu)

134 MH, if you get a chance, read "Halseys Typhoon". Pretty decent book.
Posted by: Old Blue
---------------
I'm fairly certain that the potato-flinging incident was mentioned in one of Hornfischer's books. Possibly "Neptune's Inferno"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (9mTYi)

135 If some guy was out there blogging about how women should be put in camps, wonder how that would go
Goin' pretty well so far

Posted by: #isis twitter feed at September 07, 2015 12:26 AM (AVEe1)

136 I wish I had a good crystal ball. I've got the feeling that the stage for WWIII is being set, but I just can't figure out how exactly it's going to go down. After it's all over, there will be some nice clean narrative to write, and you'll say, damn, why couldn't I see that....

And I'm sure O has purged all the Pattons out of the military, and all we have is the Wesley Clarks, the political ass lickers.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 12:26 AM (dvuhZ)

137 There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.

Almost as if some grand plan was being executed.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (WVvzl)

The completion of a cycle!

Posted by: Samir Duran at September 07, 2015 12:26 AM (wZ2hu)

138 I enjoyed watching it when I was a kid-but Star Trek obviously had a liberal tilt. For the time, that was also a good thing to have in some cases (the way they dealt with racial issues). But it clearly had a liberal tilt from the get-go.

It portrayed a quasi-socialist society with no money where all the characters were either agnostic or spiritual in a non-existent religion.

Posted by: AD at September 07, 2015 12:26 AM (s4wTA)

139 And I'm sure O has purged all the Pattons out of the military, and all we have is the Wesley Clarks, the political ass lickers.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 12:26 AM (dvuhZ)

Let's see how they'll f-up the upcoming 9-Dash-Line War. Right after the global economy totally collapses and the Chinese need to focus their domestic turmoil outward.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 12:27 AM (wZ2hu)

140 124:https://youtu.be/N77MYF3Rqdk

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (tjAPZ)

141 cooth -

Friday Harbor in the itinerary?

Posted by: Adriane the Irrelevant Critic ... at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (qOsoH)

142 There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.

Almost as if some grand plan was being executed.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (WVvzl)


Yes, the grand plan called getting those generous German welfare bennies. If you look at path between the middle east and Germany, you'll see that the countries along the way are poorer, have far less generous benefits, and are stricter about approving any asylum requests. So Germany is the closest 'easy mark' EU country.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (wqVD1)

143 We did, indeed, visit the Butchart Gardens -- that was what lured us to Victoria (they regularly have a booth at the annual San Francisco Flower + Garden Show). The weather was iffy, but we also managed to do a whale-watching trip in a zodiac (1 Minke, 2 Humpbacks, and a metric fuckton of orcas). We didn't do much in central Vancouver beyond Stanley Park, so I can't really compare one to the other downtown-wise.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

--Awesome! I'm envious of your whale-watching.

You were wise to zero in on Stanley Park. I was there in '07, after terrible storms leveled a lot of trees, but still very scenic. Lots around downtown Vancouver is harassed by druggies. Granville Island is more fun than downtown for walking around. The harbour of Victoria, though? Splendid.

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (vsbNu)

144 Don't forget about the Borg playing a role in the rearming of Starfleet in TNG, after the battle of Wolf 359.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (wZ2hu)


Yup. With a good chunk of Starfleet destroyed by that battle, it cleared the way for new ship production, and probably helped save the Federation by forcing them to start developing the logistics that would become important during the Dominion War.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (fC9RO)

145 Gotta quit.

Leave you with this, Trek fans:

Odd-numbered Beethoven symphonies don't suck, either.

Good night, Gracies!

Posted by: mindful webworker - but neither do the even ones at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (ACs58)

146 91

Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2015 11:59 PM (EzgxV)
So did you end up staying in the hotel?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 07, 2015 12:06 AM (2XMpf)



Yes, and it worked out fine, but that didn't stop the fiancee from reading a bunch of reviews to try to prove I shouldn't have booked us there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

147 124: thats not a very good video. Its too brief. I've seen a longer one on Youtube, just can't find it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:30 AM (tjAPZ)

148 In New Study HIV Prevention Pill Truvada Is 100% Effective

Legacy, baby!

Posted by: Barack, The Gaymancipator at September 07, 2015 12:30 AM (FcR7P)

149 There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are
bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.
-----------
And the Deutches Volk have been protesting lately about too many immigrants that won't assimilate. Seems like there is some sort of disconnect between the citizens and the political class. I wonder what other country that could apply to?

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:31 AM (9iR5/)

150 131: Not to be superficial, but have you seen a picture this woman??

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 12:31 AM (tjAPZ)

151 @142

I understand the motivations of the "refugees" what I'm getting at is why would the citizens of Germany allow their leaders and elites to commit cultural suicide for their nation?

And another good question is why are we allowing our leaders to do the same?

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:32 AM (WVvzl)

152 I wish MeTV would hurry up and put Honey West back in the rotation. They've stirred things around and she hasn't be on in a while. Anne Francis makes my wee-wee tingle.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 12:32 AM (dvuhZ)

153 That waters cold...and dep too.

Posted by: Badda Bing at September 07, 2015 12:32 AM (/Vs1e)

154 -Heh, you're Navy?
------------------
Nah, but a Navy brat. Family got here in '69 or so while I was still soiling cloth diapers.
Dad died shortly thereafter & Mom just decided to stay. Grew up knowing & loving Navy life, though. As much as I hate it, I love this town.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:33 AM (dTd8m)

155 and deep...hell never mind. night.

Posted by: Badda Bing at September 07, 2015 12:33 AM (/Vs1e)

156 Nah, but a Navy brat. Family got here in '69 or so while I was still soiling cloth diapers.
Dad died shortly thereafter & Mom just decided to stay. Grew up knowing & loving Navy life, though. As much as I hate it, I love this town.
Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:33 AM (dTd8m)


--Born in Norfolk, went to ODU.

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:34 AM (vsbNu)

157 I recall riding through a neighborhood on Vancouver Island. It was commented that the neighborhood was laid out by Frederic Law Olmsted.

He also did a neighborhood on the east side of Atlanta.

And, the Biltmore estate here in Asheville.

It's a very, very long list, and coast to coast. That guy really got around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:34 AM (9mTYi)

158 Well we are getting ready to take in about 66k "refugees" when it's all said and done, when chain migration kicks in, it'll be a couple hundred thousand.

Again, why?

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:34 AM (WVvzl)

159 And another good question is why are we allowing our leaders to do the same?
--------------
Diversity, FTW!

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:34 AM (9iR5/)

160 The lady with the AR-10 looks rather fetching.

I'd like to see what's under her parka, but I will make sure to call any woman toting an AR-10 a lady.

Posted by: rickl at September 07, 2015 12:35 AM (sdi6R)

161 Didn't Germany already import a bunch of Turkish workers years ago who didn't assimilate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 07, 2015 12:35 AM (W5DcG)

162 161 Didn't Germany already import a bunch of Turkish workers years ago who didn't assimilate?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 07, 2015 12:35 AM (W5DcG)

--Mohamed Atta was educated marinated in Hamburg.

Posted by: logprof, reigning Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:37 AM (vsbNu)

163 125 Cooth -
I guess you weren't too far from Port Angeles. I remember Gramps taking me down to the ferry and pointing out Vancouver across the water (straits of Juan de Fuca?).

Never got to go there, though i wanted to.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:21 AM (dTd8m)



We went from Seattle to Victoria via the ferry from Anacortes to Sidney, then took the ferry to Vancouver and came back down on the mainland, plus the whale-watching trip in the strait....so, yeah, I'm guessing we saw Port Angeles somewhere along there -- probably from the wet side.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 12:38 AM (EzgxV)

164 good night all
happy non-laboring tomorrow

Posted by: chemjeff at September 07, 2015 12:39 AM (2XMpf)

165 Good night, ChemJeff!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 12:40 AM (wKc1L)

166 Kalneva at September 07, 2015 12:25 AM (7WoJI)

Have you read Robert Stacy McCain's blog:
http://theothermccain.com

Posted by: Adriane the Irrelevant Critic ... at September 07, 2015 12:40 AM (qOsoH)

167 116 Chi, what is going on? Did you drink drain cleaner on a dare again?
Posted by: chemjeff
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No, sir. I just snorted a big line of it...
(What was that Cheech & Chong movie?)

Nah, I was looking for advice about Borax & how toxic it is. Better yet, how safe it is. Specifically, as a pesticide.
I figured that you're a chemist, and this is the place to be for free advice from strangers, so...

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:40 AM (dTd8m)

168 161
Didn't Germany already import a bunch of Turkish workers years ago who didn't assimilate?
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Yeah, pretty much. This isn't going to end well when all the refugees get better benefits than the native volk. Plus an ISIS spokesman just came out in the last couple of days saying that they've sent fighters to Europe with all the refugees. It will get interesting.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 12:40 AM (9iR5/)

169 It's amazing how expensive physical copies of Camp of the Saints are on Amazon. The publisher would make a killing on a reprint.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:41 AM (vsbNu)

170 141 cooth -

Friday Harbor in the itinerary?

Posted by: Adriane the Irrelevant Critic ... at September 07, 2015 12:28 AM (qOsoH)



Nope -- this was a bit of a whirlwind tour (joke, considering Vancouver windstorms).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 12:41 AM (EzgxV)

171 'Night, chemjeff!

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:41 AM (vsbNu)

172 O is settling refugees all over the country, now, on the QT. Down here in SC, the State Dept. has started a plan to resettle some of them in Spartanburg, just over the way from me. They try to keep this as quiet as possible to not stir up trouble.

Some of the idiot churches, their hearts bleeding, conspire with the feds in the scheme.

And all their babies will be US citizens......

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 12:42 AM (dvuhZ)

173 Didn't Germany already import a bunch of Turkish workers years ago who didn't assimilate?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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That's been going on for decades.

Then, there is the experience with Paki's in Great Britain.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:42 AM (9mTYi)

174 One of the best trips I ever took was a week in Seattle and a cruise to Alaska.

Went to Juneau, Skagway and Ketchikan.

Finished off the trip in Victoria.

To a peddle cab tour of the city.

The thing I remember the most were that there
were flowers everywhere. I mean everywhere.

Bursting with color.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:42 AM (WVvzl)

175 So, Marshall beat Purdue today.

Will the Hokies upset Ohio State two years in a row?

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:43 AM (vsbNu)

176 Nah, I was looking for advice about Borax & how toxic it is. Better yet, how safe it is. Specifically, as a pesticide.
-----

Boric acid?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:43 AM (9mTYi)

177 --Born in Norfolk, went to ODU.
Posted by: logprof
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And you have family that's still here, right?
The Egg Bistro, I believe?

I've been here for 45 years or so. With the exception of a stint in Ricmond.
Norfolk really can suck, but it's home.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:44 AM (dTd8m)

178 "One of the best trips I ever took was a week in Seattle and a cruise to Alaska."


Sister and BIL did that this year. Had some great pics.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 12:45 AM (hOm72)

179 Finished off the trip in Victoria.

To a peddle cab tour of the city.

The thing I remember the most were that there
were flowers everywhere. I mean everywhere.

Bursting with color.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:42 AM (WVvzl)

--Victoria is beautiful. I would count it among the prettiest cities in the world, based on overall beauty, not cities with beautiful sites in them. Quebec City is another. Also, Vienna, Nancy (France), and Bratislava.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:48 AM (vsbNu)

180 @178

I will say this for Seattle, it is one of the best walking cities.

Best oysters I've ever had as well.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:49 AM (WVvzl)

181 Whew! I did it!
I took my pants back off and managed not to break any bones or dislocate my finger.

I consider this a win.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:49 AM (dTd8m)

182 Hey everybody.

Dang I just can't quit Amazon.
At least I'm finally getting somewhere in rebuilding my long-lost CD/LP collection...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 12:50 AM (ntObR)

183 #169: That's one reason I've always respected Neal Stephenson as a person, even though I can't really get into his writing.

His first novel was some sort of campus comedy. I can never remember the name of it. Anyway, he wrote it because that's what publishers wanted in the way of unsolicited submissions at the time, and that's how he initially became a published author.

He hated the book, and was later a little embarrassed by its very existence. He decided it would never see the light of day again.

Then, once he was established as a serious sci-fi writer, he found out that a lot of his fans really wanted to read that first book of his, and were paying over $100 for used copies. So, he decided to go ahead and let it be reprinted.

As much as he hated that book, he hated the fact that his fans were paying so much just to read it even more. So, he made it available to them at a more reasonable price again.

Pretty cool of him, I think.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 12:50 AM (wKc1L)

184 And you have family that's still here, right?
The Egg Bistro, I believe?

I've been here for 45 years or so. With the exception of a stint in Ricmond.
Norfolk really can suck, but it's home.
Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:44 AM (dTd8m)

--Yes, and please do patronize The Egg Bistro. My mom is on the Peninsula, and dad in West Ghent, Norfolk. It's funny, my stepbrother ranted against Norfolk in his younger days, but he eventually met his wife there and still lives there over 15 years later having taken over my dad's business.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:51 AM (vsbNu)

185 I took my pants back off and managed not to break any bones or dislocate my finger.
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Um, you're a lot more vigorous about that then I am.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 12:51 AM (9mTYi)

186 Dang I just can't quit Amazon.
At least I'm finally getting somewhere in rebuilding my long-lost CD/LP collection...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 12:50 AM (ntObR)

--You've tempted me to buy the special edition of New Order's Low Life.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:53 AM (vsbNu)

187 Congrats, Chi. Everybody takes their pants off one leg at a time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 12:53 AM (hOm72)

188 logprof, that's what I bought a few weeks ago that brought on this recent drunken orgy of Amazon purchase. ;-)

But you won't regret your purchase. Nice album (and you get it right away in effect with Amazon's AutoRip), and the CD package itself is quite nice as well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 12:54 AM (ntObR)

189 But you won't regret your purchase. Nice album (and you get it right away in effect with Amazon's AutoRip), and the CD package itself is quite nice as well.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 12:54 AM (ntObR)


--I still have the cassette version, with 8 songs. Does the special edition have twice as many songs?

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:56 AM (vsbNu)

190 75 AC

Noworries

:-)

Posted by: speedster1 at September 07, 2015 12:56 AM (1brdf)

191 Bah, I just remembered I haven't bought Anna Puma's novel yet. I have it bookmarked, though, and I will buy it as soon as I dig up that Amazon gift card I have laying around somewhere.

For those who missed it, here's the link...

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Because it's on the HQ's store, Ace will get a little bit of that money, too.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 12:56 AM (wKc1L)

192 I recently did some number-crunching and serious memory-crunching as well.

By my count, the number of albums I need to rebuy to effectively recreate my music CD/LP collection, and that are available for halfway reasonable prices, comes to...

450.

(What's spooky is, that number doesn't even include 45s, unaffordable and/or completely unavailable out-of-print editions, and collection I don't care to have again.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 12:57 AM (ntObR)

193 Um, you're a lot more vigorous about that then I am.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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You weren't here the other night?
Slap dislocated a finger while putting on his pants. Sweatpants, at that. They don't even have belt loops! How do you hurt yourself with sweatpants???

And yeah, borax is boric acid, I guess. I spread a bunch around those hoping to kill fleas.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 12:59 AM (dTd8m)

194 I'm lucky, my older brother got everyone's LP, 33, 45, etc collections over the years and he's kept it intact and in good condition.

Just go over to his house and listen to practically anything.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:59 AM (WVvzl)

195 Katherine Timpf looked hot tonight.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM (vsbNu)

196 You've tempted me to buy the special edition of New Order's Low Life.

Posted by: logprof,

How does it feel (to treat me like you do)?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM (PEFlK)

197 Logprof, with your CD purchase of 'Low-Life' you get, besides the original 8 songs:

- The Perfect Kiss (12-inch version)
- Subculture (John Robie remix)
- Shellshock (Substance edit)
- Shame of the Nation (12-inch version)
- Elegia (full version, over 17 minutes long; it's the song you hear in "Pretty in Pink")
- Let's Go (from something - a movie? called 'Salvation')
- Salvation Theme
- Dub Vulture (12-inch version)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM (ntObR)

198 So I know how excited everybody is about the new batch of Halloween costumes, - the Caitlyn costume, the Cecil the Lion Killer costume, and the ever popular Megyn Kelly costume, - but who here is looking forward to the King Dong Cabrera costume? C'mon, you know you can't resist.

Trick or, hey now, whoa, -- treat!

Posted by: Fritz at September 07, 2015 01:02 AM (3tjn4)

199 Got a couple of racks of baby back ribs just sitting in the 'fridge soaking up the rub. Tomorrow morning we start smoking. Mmmm.

There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.

Almost as if some grand plan was being executed.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (WVvzl)

Yes, the grand plan called getting those generous German welfare bennies. If you look at path between the middle east and Germany, you'll see that the countries along the way are poorer, have far less generous benefits, and are stricter about approving any asylum requests. So Germany is the closest 'easy mark' EU country.


I feel horrible for refugees like that poor toddler that everyone has seen drowned on the beach, but most of this "crisis" doesn't pass the smell test to me. The "refugees" are primarily men of fighting age from what I have seen. ISIS may be the devil incarnate, but they are supposed to have, what, 50, 60K fighters? Hundreds of thousands of fighting age men are running away form them? Brother, if it's that bad, pick up a weapon and fight to either victory or death. You have them outnumbered 10 to 1 or more. Why should Europe (or America) solve your problem?

Posted by: Weirddave at September 07, 2015 01:02 AM (WvS3w)

200 191 Bah, I just remembered I haven't bought Anna Puma's novel yet. I have it bookmarked, though, and I will buy it as soon as I dig up that Amazon gift card I have laying around somewhere.

For those who missed it, here's the link...

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Because it's on the HQ's store, Ace will get a little bit of that money, too.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler
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Don't forget logprof's book! - it's on Amazon, too.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:02 AM (dTd8m)

201 450.

a man's got to know his limitations ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:03 AM (qOsoH)

202 Slap dislocated a finger while putting on his pants. Sweatpants, at that.
-----------

Must be a story that goes with that. If there isn't, I hope he made one up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 01:03 AM (9mTYi)

203 Kreplach, wish I had done that.

Some of the stuff I sold for pennies on the dollar back in the 1980s and 1990s, is now going for obscene prices at Amazon in any condition.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:03 AM (ntObR)

204 175 So, Marshall beat Purdue today.

Will the Hokies upset Ohio State two years in a row?

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 12:43 AM (vsbNu)



I'm gonna say no. Last year Ohio State had an inexperienced line, and an inexperienced QB, and also questions at runningback.

Now, they have an experienced line, 2 starting caliber QB's. and confidence in Ezekiel Elliot at RB. But hey you never know.

Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2015 01:03 AM (zt+N6)

205 the Caitlyn costume, the Cecil the Lion Killer costume, and the ever popular Megyn Kelly costume,
-----------------

If there are not The Donald masks, I will be disappointed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 01:04 AM (9mTYi)

206 196 You've tempted me to buy the special edition of New Order's Low Life.

Posted by: logprof,

How does it feel (to treat me like you do)?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM (PEFlK)

--Different album.


High school flashback:

During my after-school extra-curricular activities, almost every week I'd see the pom-pom squad (later reconstituted as the dance squad) practicing moves to "Blue Monday." However, only once, in my senior year, did I ever see them publicly do a performance to that song, at a pep rally. It was pretty good, though.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:05 AM (vsbNu)

207 "You weren't here the other night?
Slap dislocated a finger while putting on his pants. Sweatpants, at that. "


Hell, I missed that too. RIP, slap.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 01:05 AM (hOm72)

208 >>>138 I enjoyed watching it when I was a kid-but Star Trek obviously had a liberal tilt. For the time, that was also a good thing to have in some cases (the way they dealt with racial issues). But it clearly had a liberal tilt from the get-go.

---

shaka, when the walls fell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 07, 2015 01:05 AM (GdFQh)

209 *LICK*

Posted by: Ariana Grande at September 07, 2015 01:05 AM (vsbNu)

210 Adriane, the good news is that Amazon is selling an awful lot of CDs these days for incredible prices.

I'm pleasantly surprised to see how many collections that were 'budget priced' in the late 80s/early 90s at 7.99 to 9.99, are now going at Amazon for as low as 3.99.

I figure I can afford to purchase 8-10 albums a month for a few years, then see where I am at that point. Once items start getting progressively rarer and more expensive, I can reassess at that point whether to get them or stick to lower-priced greatest hits editions and retrospectives.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:05 AM (ntObR)

211 191 Bah, I just remembered I haven't bought Anna Puma's novel yet. I have it bookmarked, though, and I will buy it as soon as I dig up that Amazon gift card I have laying around somewhere.

For those who missed it, here's the link...

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Because it's on the HQ's store, Ace will get a little bit of that money, too.


Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 12:56 AM (wKc1L)



I think Anna and others have mentioned that unfortunately ace doesn't get a piece of the action on digital sales.

Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2015 01:06 AM (zt+N6)

212 #200: Oh, cool! I didn't know about that. Got a link?

Hell, I'd be happy to use that whole gift card on stuff written by Morons and Moronettes.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:07 AM (wKc1L)

213 Amazon is also notorious for having some semi-rare CDs priced at something ridonkulous like $34.99...

or an MP3 edition for $5.99. Duh. When the discrepancy is that great, I'll just take the MP3-only edition and burn it to a CD for backup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (ntObR)

214 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Donald-Trump-Popular-Presenter-Fancy/dp/6040360321

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (zyIlW)

215 Katherine Timpf looked hot tonight.
Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM
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So, she didn't have those gawd-awful g;lasses on then? 'Cause, damn. I know they come off and all but...damn. Hideous. I'll take my naughty librarian with a little less frame, than you.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (v5oV6)

216 I'm gonna say no. Last year Ohio State had an inexperienced line, and an inexperienced QB, and also questions at runningback.

Now, they have an experienced line, 2 starting caliber QB's. and confidence in Ezekiel Elliot at RB. But hey you never know.
Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2015 01:03 AM (zt+N6)

--The two things that add to the intrigue are that VPI has added experience and they are the home team. Still, I'd put my money on Ohio State, if I had any to spare.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (vsbNu)

217 qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (ntObR)

Best of Luck reassembling the collection...
: -)

The Civilized World died with Tower Records ...
: -(

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:10 AM (qOsoH)

218 #211: Buzzion! You're alive?

On a more serious note... I'm sorry to hear that; I thought Ace got a cut of everything sold through his Amazon store. Well, thanks for putting me some knowledge on that detail of how Amazon works.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:10 AM (wKc1L)

219 215 Katherine Timpf looked hot tonight.
Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:00 AM
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So, she didn't have those gawd-awful g;lasses on then? 'Cause, damn. I know they come off and all but...damn. Hideous. I'll take my naughty librarian with a little less frame, than you.
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 07, 2015 01:08 AM (v5oV6)

--She still had the specs, but she was in the Leg Seat.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:11 AM (vsbNu)

220 I don't know if anyone remembers when picturdisk LPs were all the rage.

But my favorite one was pacman fever.

Nearly cut right through that one.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 01:11 AM (WVvzl)

221 Adriane, true.

Still miss that place. I personally think if they could have just closed some locations and stuck it out a few more years...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:11 AM (ntObR)

222 I normally don't whine about this stuff on the ONT, but my AC took a shit today. Only 19 years old.

I've got a heat pump split unit with a gas furnace in the attic space. Any recommendations in the 5 ton range?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 07, 2015 01:11 AM (YJmuy)

223 : Oh, cool! I didn't know about that. Got a link?
------------------
Unfortunately, not handy. It's somewhere here in my phone...
SMFH may have it.
Even better, he's still here - logprof, pimp your book.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:12 AM (dTd8m)

224 Any recommendations in the 5 ton range?

Medifast ...

Posted by: Adriane is Easily Confused ... at September 07, 2015 01:12 AM (qOsoH)

225 Kreplach, in the 1980s? Vaguely.

Anyone besides me remember when CD3 singles (they were actually mini-CDs) were actually available in the USA? Nowadays you can only get them from Japan, and even then they're rare and expensive.

Rhino had a line of four-song-long greatest hits collections that were pressed onto CD3s, called "Little Bit O'Gold." They were great.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:12 AM (ntObR)

226 shaka, when the walls fell.
Posted by: Dr. Varno


Make it sew.

Posted by: Capt. Betsy Ross at September 07, 2015 01:12 AM (W5DcG)

227 #214: I have a Trump campaign shirt that's a bit less creepy than that mask. I'll stick to wearing that in support of his campaign.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:13 AM (wKc1L)

228 "#211: Buzzion! You're alive?"


Poor guy just can't give up the ghost.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 01:13 AM (hOm72)

229 Salvation Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6X9RncTvLs

Posted by: Edward Gibbon at September 07, 2015 01:13 AM (AVEe1)

230 Medifast ...

Who do you think I am, Brady Bogen?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 07, 2015 01:13 AM (YJmuy)

231 Rhino also took a lot of stuff out of print that they had NO BUSINESS making unavailable. Still annoys me.

Their British Invasion series, for example, was incredible.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:13 AM (ntObR)

232 #169

Camp of the Saints in PDF can be downloaded for free here:
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdfs/camp_of_the_saints.pdf

It's drearily prescient but be careful where you discuss because it brings the serious loonies out of the woodwork.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:14 AM (IdCqF)

233 I'm completely over the hot bimbettes on FOX.

They're good to look but couldn't buy a clue if you spotted them a twenty.

Quite frankly I'm over news readers as a class period.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 01:14 AM (WVvzl)

234 "Any recommendations in the 5 ton range?"

I thought I knew AC lingo but I don't know what that means.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 01:14 AM (hOm72)

235 or an MP3 edition for $5.99. Duh. When the discrepancy is that great, I'll just take the MP3-only edition and burn it to a CD for backup.

Posted by: qdpsteve



Yep. I had a tape that I bought in the early 90's. Needless to say it was pretty well worn out. I looked for it on Amazon and found it but the CD was $30 something. Bought the MP3 version and burned it instead. (Allman Brothers Band-Shades of Two Worlds). Amazon is damn useful.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 01:14 AM (tjAPZ)

236 Poor guy just can't give up the ghost.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
----------------------

Refuses to get on the cart.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 01:15 AM (9mTYi)

237 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014EKK5CO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o01_

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 01:15 AM (zyIlW)

238 Will be in and out tonight. Doing some online work.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:15 AM (ntObR)

239 Have 3 or 4 minis - from Japan. x-japan & some enka ... Picked up in Little Tokyo, LA ...


Many years ago!

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:16 AM (qOsoH)

240 Even better, he's still here - logprof, pimp your book.
Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:12 AM (dTd8m)


--Once more, with feeling:


http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014EKK5CO


N.B. I am probably the only male Moron who will ever publish a Contemporary Romance title.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:17 AM (vsbNu)

241 Besides Boric Acid, has anyone had experience using Diatomaceous Earth as a pesticide?

Supposedly it gets into their exoskeleton joints and slices up their vascular system, and they die when all their fluids leak out?

Posted by: rd at September 07, 2015 01:18 AM (ANcQx)

242 @225

Yeah, we used to go to tower records and J&R music world and get all kinds of imports.

We used to also have listening parties which the kids these days don't seem to do.

Kids don't seem to do a whole lot these days period.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 01:18 AM (WVvzl)

243 I've got a heat pump split unit with a gas furnace in the attic space.

sorry. Lennox, all electric, 4 Tonne ...

Did you have an electrical issues in last Monday's storm?

Posted by: Adriane the Technology Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:18 AM (qOsoH)

244 Heh. Picture discs. That's what they're called? I have a few.
The one that comes to mind is Ozzy - Mr. Crowley, I think.

I need to come up with some cash...
WhaT is the best source for old LP values, anyway?
I still have quite a few. Rolling Stones with the actual zipper on the cover (Sticky Fingers?) Must be worth a few bucks...

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:20 AM (dTd8m)

245 We used to also have listening parties which the kids these days don't seem to do.

I think they have them on line ...

Posted by: Adriane the Technology Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:20 AM (qOsoH)

246 "Kids don't seem to do a whole lot these days period."


Kids don't even get DL's anymore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (hOm72)

247 Oy.

Chores with my name on them ...

Posted by: Adriane the Technology Critic ... at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (qOsoH)

248 You had one job---get the one, single, lone guy on an asteroid!

IIRC, Heinlein short story

Posted by: Fox2! at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (brIR5)

249
Camp of the Saints in PDF can be downloaded for free here:
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdfs/camp_of_the_saints.pdf

It's drearily prescient but be careful where you discuss because it brings the serious loonies out of the woodwork.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:14 AM (IdCqF)

--Sweet, thanks. Have downloaded it and will probab;y print it out for reading.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (vsbNu)

250 199 Got a couple of racks of baby back ribs just sitting in the 'fridge soaking up the rub. Tomorrow morning we start smoking. Mmmm.

There was also a map showing the flow of migrants and they are bypassing all of the other countries and making a beeline for Germany.

Almost as if some grand plan was being executed.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 07, 2015 12:22 AM (WVvzl)

Yes, the grand plan called getting those generous German welfare bennies. If you look at path between the middle east and Germany, you'll see that the countries along the way are poorer, have far less generous benefits, and are stricter about approving any asylum requests. So Germany is the closest 'easy mark' EU country.

I feel horrible for refugees like that poor toddler that everyone has seen drowned on the beach, but most of this "crisis" doesn't pass the smell test to me. The "refugees" are primarily men of fighting age from what I have seen. ISIS may be the devil incarnate, but they are supposed to have, what, 50, 60K fighters? Hundreds of thousands of fighting age men are running away form them? Brother, if it's that bad, pick up a weapon and fight to either victory or death. You have them outnumbered 10 to 1 or more. Why should Europe (or America) solve your problem?

Posted by: Weirddave at September 07, 2015 01:02 AM (WvS3w)




I was thinking about that on one of the long drives homeward, and mulling over the consequences of admitting refugees on probationary status, training those of fighting age and sending them back, and only granting permanent refugee status to children or the infirm when their able-bodied kin had fallen.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

251 Did you have an electrical issues in last Monday's storm?

We did have a bit of a brownout during a storm last week.

Enough of a voltage drop to make the lights flicker and the desktop machine reboot, but not enough to make the oven clock reset.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 07, 2015 01:22 AM (YJmuy)

252 #231: I've bought a fair bit of stuff from Rhino. That's pretty lame; there's no real reason to stop making MP3s available. CDs, sure; that's a physical medium that takes money to produce. But in this era of MP3s being the standard medium?

Even if you accept the idea that they need to drive up demand for the product artificially from time to time, the fact is, if the files are no longer legitimately available for download, people will just share the files for free.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:22 AM (wKc1L)

253 Now if I can find Van Morrison/The Chieftains collaboration Irish Heartbeat. Out of print and hard to find. Can't even download at Amazon.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 01:23 AM (tjAPZ)

254 #225

It was really annoying to me a few years ago when I was reading a book about the changes to the music industry and it became clear the author had never heard of CD Singles.

The size was also used for software distribution where the difference in cost was enough to mean something. A lot of slot loader drives couldn't handle them and would render the machine useless. This was the case at a film festival event where they rented a bunch of early iMacs as open access stations and also put the festival's press kit and schedule on the 'business card' variant of the CD3. We had to go around taping over the drive slots to keep people from wrecking the rented iMacs.

One of the few popular slot loader devices that didn't choke on a CD3 was the Nintendo Wii. It was backward compatible to the GameCube, which used a DVD version of the CD3 format and so had to handle those discs properly. After a few years they reduced the cost by taking that feature out. The most popular GameCube titles had been given new releases on the full sized Wii discs with support for the Wii controllers, so they quietly ended support for the GameCube library.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:23 AM (IdCqF)

255 #240: Bookmarked for purchase in the near future.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:24 AM (wKc1L)

256 I have bought some great tunes at Tower.

Also, when I was living in Boston, occasionally on the back of monthly T passes there would be a 15% discount from HMV. I probably bought, by minutes, half of my classical music from HMV with that discount.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:24 AM (vsbNu)

257 68 "Spock's brain" is the episode that describes the left's idea of paradise. One smart person will run everything while everyone else lives a childlike existence.

And the women control the availability of sex.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 07, 2015 01:25 AM (brIR5)

258 I looked for diatomaceous earth at Walmart, but couldn't find any. Supposed to be a safe, effective way to go.
Have checked Lowe's yet.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:25 AM (dTd8m)

259 241 Besides Boric Acid, has anyone had experience using Diatomaceous Earth as a pesticide?

Supposedly it gets into their exoskeleton joints and slices up their vascular system, and they die when all their fluids leak out?

Posted by: rd at September 07, 2015 01:18 AM (ANcQx)





A line of it will stop ants, but it gets messy. Also, once you decide to get rid of it, it clogs vacuum bags like nothin' else.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 01:27 AM (EzgxV)

260 I need to come up with some cash... WhaT is the best source for old LP values, anyway? I still have quite a few. Rolling Stones with the actual zipper on the cover (Sticky Fingers?) Must be worth a few bucks...

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 01:20 AM

I got some rarities and some oddball stuff. My personal gem is the rare copy of "Beggar's Banquet" witha snapshot of an extremely high Brian Jones tripping balls on the cover. Not the rarest of the rare Stones LP, but an awesome one.

Posted by: otho at September 07, 2015 01:27 AM (d8udV)

261 Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

Mass migrations never end well....

Posted by: The American Indian... at September 07, 2015 01:28 AM (qh617)

262 Fucking polar bears is not for the amateur bear enthusiast. Best leave it to the professionals.

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell at September 07, 2015 01:29 AM (75uvI)

263 That last episode (or, penultimate episode, dependent on how you count these things) with Ro Larren kind of undermines the whole TNG premise though. Seems that real men or, in Ro's case, women will take a look at the Federation and say, fuck it, I'm raising the black flag and slitting throats with the Maquis. :^)

Didn't Riker's transporter accident "twin" end up with the Maquis as well?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 07, 2015 01:30 AM (brIR5)

264 Ian Hunter had a terrific live album called 'Welcome to the Club.' Two vinyls LPs but still no US CD release to this day. There is a pricey import and a Best Of album that made use of many of the live tracks because they didn't have rights to the studio originals.

This was Hunter at the top of his game before he started going downhill and doing stuff like the very offensive 'Gun Control.'

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:31 AM (IdCqF)

265 I really miss being able to walk into a store with a big selection of music, videos, games and books, and just buying all sorts of stuff you couldn't find anywhere else. There are still big bookstores, but there aren't really big music or video stores anymore.

Well, there is still one that I know of, Tradesmart. It's not the most conveniently located place for me to get to, but I can still get anime videos there that aren't really available in any other off-line venue of which I'm aware, so it's worth the occasional trip.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:31 AM (wKc1L)

266 Chi and otho, best place IMHO to check on the value of stuff you have (or want) is to actually go to Amazon. Look up a title, and oftentimes they will offer a list under where it's noted "See all formats and editions." Then you can see a list of numerous editions, imports, special pressings, etc. etc that have been made available over the years, that have been over time made available at Amazon at various times (sometime they even still list stuff that's not available any more at all).

That's how I found out a lot of the stuff I sold for a pittance back in the day is now worth... tons o' cash.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:33 AM (ntObR)

267 Best leave it to the professionals.
Posted by: Timothy Treadwell
-----------------

So, the stewardess with the AR-10?

Certainly not the sodden Rooskies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 01:34 AM (9mTYi)

268 Also, check Ebay with the 'completed auctions' box checked to see what an item is really selling for.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:34 AM (IdCqF)

269 Heh, in both of my Yahoo Fantasy Leagues, I have either the worst outright (D), or tied for worst (C) draft grades. In those leagues, I finished, respectively, 4th out of 12, and 1st out of 10 (the Moron League). Yahoo loves robo-drafters.

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 01:36 AM (vsbNu)

270 Well, I'm out for the evening. I have a fantasy foobmall draft tomorrow, and I'll need to sleep off my current drunkenness in order to prepare for the new drunkenness tomorrow.

Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 07, 2015 01:36 AM (wKc1L)

271 Also, check Ebay with the 'completed auctions' box checked to see what an item is really selling for.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 01:34 AM
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That's got my vote. It's what I do, anyway.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 07, 2015 01:36 AM (v5oV6)

272 PW, exactly re Rhino. I can't believe it would cost them anything to reissue a lot of their old collections on MP3. I think something in their culture changed a lot for the worse when they got bought up by Warner Bros Music (at least I think that's what happened).

Adriane, epobirs, anyone else, yep, yep, yep. Those CD3s were great, as were those now-going-away stores full of collections. Amazon is great but just not the same.

And yes, NOTHING is more frustrating than when you wait for years and years for something you loved and lost to get reissued, and it *never* does, while lots of other dreck keeps getting rereleased over and over. Case in point for me is the Style Council album "My Ever Changing Moods." Came out in 1984 on Geffen, been waiting since then for a re-release but NOTHING. Meanwhile every stupid thing they released in Europe is out on CD to this day.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:37 AM (ntObR)

273 "It portrayed a quasi-socialist society with no money where all the characters were either agnostic or spiritual in a non-existent religion."

And that's not the way people are wired to think. If they had endless prosperity, they would continue the cultural war with all of the same urgency that caveman fought wolves. Or at least enough of them would.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 07, 2015 01:41 AM (VdICR)

274 Puddleglum, is this what you were looking for re "Irish Heartbeat"???

http://tinyurl.com/oqhmj23

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:41 AM (ntObR)

275 Epobirs, yup re CD3s. IMHO it's a format that should have stuck around.

I was fortunate, I had a 1988 Sony CD player (bought at Robinsons-May, of all places, they were the only ones who would give me any credit) that had the gap in the tray for CD3s. And I personally have yet to experience a CD player tray that didn't have that feature. But I can imagine there were other players that couldn't take them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:43 AM (ntObR)

276 274: Yep. Not sure I want to buy it used. I was hoping for a MP3 download. I've had decent luck with Amazon buying used CDs.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 01:47 AM (tjAPZ)

277 Puddleglum, I see what you mean. New copies are expensive and no MP3 is available. Frustrating.

Did you see the "new vinyl" price on it?? $399.95. OMG.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:48 AM (ntObR)

278 Yep. Not sure I want to buy it used. I was hoping for a MP3 download. I've had decent luck with Amazon buying used CDs.

Posted by: Puddleglum

I have to go to used music stores. Limits the albums I find to just a couple I have to buy. If I went to Amazon, I'd be broke faster than a democrat-run city.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 07, 2015 01:48 AM (PEFlK)

279 Puddleglum, the used venue is probably the way I will have to go when I finally get around to rebuying the Rhino British Invasion Series. 9 CDs, all of them out of print.

What's weird to me is that right within that same Rhino series, some are still affordable brand new, while others are expensive for any playable used edition.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:50 AM (ntObR)

280 277: I'm Van Morrison fan boy but yeah, I ain't shelling out nearly 400 bucks for an out of print album.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 07, 2015 01:51 AM (tjAPZ)

281 That ice cream looks more lile Heinrich Himmler.

Was Himmler Japanese, like Peter Lorre?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 01:56 AM (CrC03)

282 "The British Invasion: The History of British Rock"
Rhino, issued approximately 1990-1991

Vol. 1 CD... new $38.98, used $8.38
Vol. 2 CD... new $30.94, used $4.98
Vol. 3 CD... new $36.98, used $4.98
Vol. 4 CD... new $29.95, used $4.96
Vol. 5 CD... new $32.95, used $9.98
Vol. 6 CD... new $41.99, used $8.90
Vol. 7 CD... new $53.20, used $9.99
Vol. 8 CD... new $23.95, used $8.94
Vol. 9 CD... new $34.10, used $12.99

They all originally retailed new for $14.99, I believe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 01:57 AM (ntObR)

283 Even Kirk couldn't deal with the illusion...in his pants.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 07, 2015 01:58 AM (4ErVI)

284 Although it is commonly thought that no day can go well when one wakes up in Weed, we're home safe and happily sorting out the wreckage of our vacay.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:02 AM (EzgxV)

285 That ice cream looks more lile Heinrich Himmler.



Was Himmler Japanese, like Peter Lorre?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 01:56 AM (CrC03)

Himmler was Japanese like Mickey Rooney.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 07, 2015 02:02 AM (JO9+V)

286 You would think by now, some enterprising classic LP lover who's also good with audio engineering, would market a program that would allow you, once you've MP3ified an LP recording, to:

- remove the scratches/surface noise (or most of it).
- enhance/improve/Dolbyize the sound as needed/wanted.

OTOH I can imagine the record companies wouldn't be big on software like that coming out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:03 AM (ntObR)

287 #275

That inner depression in the tray is still a standard, including Blu-ray drives. The size ultimately got more use for data than audio. It was only the slot loaders that had a problem. The designers of those thought the format was dead and didn't anticipate its resurrection for data.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 02:05 AM (IdCqF)

288 cthulhu, I once read that the UC system in California was going to start up a campus in your town, but the scrapped the plans because... they knew stoners and other young people would *never* stop making fun of the university name.

"UC Weed? No man, I don't see no weed. YOU see any weed?"

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:05 AM (ntObR)

289 This Bindel character sounds like a fanatic. Yes, there's a man problem, but the humane solution is mandatory sex changes before puberty, along with hormone therapy, not internment camps.

Is she a TERF or something?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 02:05 AM (CrC03)

290 Wakes up in Weed?
30 years ago, we called that "wake and bake."
And it was pretty awesome. You stayed high for hours.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 02:06 AM (dTd8m)

291 Epobirs, also yep. :-) A few years ago at Office Depot they had spindles of Memorex CD3 blank discs for sale.

I remember thinking, 'bout time those things made a comeback.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:07 AM (ntObR)

292 #286

Such software has been bundled with CD burners since the 90s. There are also products like these to enable converting your LPs:

https://www.ionaudio.com/products/turntables

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 02:09 AM (IdCqF)

293 Epobirs, hmmm.

Nice to see I'm wrong about that stuff.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:10 AM (ntObR)

294 #291

They made a lot of sense for stuff like demos and digital press kits. People are much more likely to accept the smaller disc and it can save a lot of money when used in mass mailings.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2015 02:10 AM (IdCqF)

295 288 cthulhu, I once read that the UC system in California was going to start up a campus in your town, but the scrapped the plans because... they knew stoners and other young people would *never* stop making fun of the university name.

"UC Weed? No man, I don't see no weed. YOU see any weed?"

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:05 AM (ntObR)




We don't live in Weed -- we're in Silicon Valley. The 'rents are in Salem, and Weed is halfway -- so we tend to do overnights in Weed. We'd do our overnights in the much more lovely Mount Shasta, which is nearby, but it would cost extra because people actually want to be there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:11 AM (EzgxV)

296 Them Nassau girls ain't got no comb
Hey now, Hoseanna
They comb their hair with a grouper backbone
Round the Bay of Mexico.

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:14 AM (jBuUi)

297 cthulhu, ooo, Mount Shasta. :-)

I still have memories of our family staying in a rented cabin for about a week. It was beautiful and, at the time, brand new; I think this was about 1972. It had *three* stories, tons of bedrooms, and on the top floor, a roomy comfy family room and kitchen. It also had one of the then-oh-so-trendy *metal tube* fireplaces. I know it was an area popular with skiers.

The only problem is, *no one* in my family can remember where the dang place was. Shasta, Shaver Lake, Big Bear... we even have some surviving Polaroids, but of course there's no notes written on them. So the location of the beautiful 1970s cabin will unfortunately probably remain forever a mystery to me, but I'd love to see where it actually was and how it's aged if I could.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:16 AM (ntObR)

298 290 Wakes up in Weed?
30 years ago, we called that "wake and bake."
And it was pretty awesome. You stayed high for hours.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 02:06 AM (dTd8m)

The old is new again!

*waves arms*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 07, 2015 02:20 AM (4ErVI)

299 Hey zombie!!

Are the relatives doing a good job lately leaving you alone?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:22 AM (ntObR)

300 So Owen Wilson is attacked by Pakistanis? As long as he offs a bunch of them and comes out on top in the end, I am so there.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 02:23 AM (CrC03)

301 Anyone else here ever have a dream about getting to hang out (nothing weird, just hang out) with some beautiful women...

and when you wake up in the morning, you end up feeling lonely?

Admit it happened to me last night.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:25 AM (ntObR)

302 297 cthulhu, ooo, Mount Shasta. :-)

I still have memories of our family staying in a rented cabin for about a week. It was beautiful and, at the time, brand new; I think this was about 1972. It had *three* stories, tons of bedrooms, and on the top floor, a roomy comfy family room and kitchen. It also had one of the then-oh-so-trendy *metal tube* fireplaces. I know it was an area popular with skiers.

The only problem is, *no one* in my family can remember where the dang place was. Shasta, Shaver Lake, Big Bear... we even have some surviving Polaroids, but of course there's no notes written on them. So the location of the beautiful 1970s cabin will unfortunately probably remain forever a mystery to me, but I'd love to see where it actually was and how it's aged if I could.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:16 AM (ntObR)




Do you remember Mount Shasta, itself? It's an incredibly striking presence in the region and could well have been used as a model for the Lonely Mountain, Erebor. http://www.pbase.com/cindyd/mount_shasta has some nice images. If you don't remember seeing Mount Shasta, you probably weren't there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:27 AM (EzgxV)

303 Hey now, Hoseanna
Posted by: zombie


Wow, just discovered that I'd been remembering it wrong -- it's "Susianna," not "Hoseanna."

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:28 AM (jBuUi)

304 296 Them Nassau girls ain't got no comb
Hey now, Hoseanna
They comb their hair with a grouper backbone
Round the Bay of Mexico.

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:14 AM (jBuUi)



Grew up listening to the Kingston Trio....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

305 cthulhu, I was pretty young (5 or 6 I believe), but I don't remember seeing any actual mountain.

IMHO it was most likely Shasta or Shaver.

The 'mountain' that most sticks in my mind from the years when my family camped (roughly 1971-83) is... Mount Lassen. Can still smell those sulfur mudpots.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:30 AM (ntObR)

306 I'd like to see a remake of The Most Dangerous Game, starring Julie Bindel and Vespers O'Houlihan. Too bad Vespers offed himself.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 02:32 AM (CrC03)

307 299 Hey zombie!!

Are the relatives doing a good job lately leaving you alone?
Posted by: qdpsteve


Somewhat better. I brook no vexing!

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:32 AM (jBuUi)

308 When Mount Lassen goes, that'll be the SMOD for California, Northern at least.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:33 AM (ntObR)

309
Grew up listening to the Kingston Trio....
Posted by: cthulhu


...and Burl Ives, the Pennywhistlers, Pete Seeger, Alan Lomax field recordings -- the whole folkie shebang.

Yeah, I learned after the fact that most were pinkos, but there's something primal about folk songs that stay in you psyche -- and your soul.

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:37 AM (jBuUi)

310 305 cthulhu, I was pretty young (5 or 6 I believe), but I don't remember seeing any actual mountain.

IMHO it was most likely Shasta or Shaver.

The 'mountain' that most sticks in my mind from the years when my family camped (roughly 1971-83) is... Mount Lassen. Can still smell those sulfur mudpots.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:30 AM (ntObR)




Shasta is seriously imposing in a way that Lassen doesn't quite live up to -- nothing near it is remotely close to it in height or mass. It's frequently the only peak with snow within sight, and it dominates the sightlines of all of its approaches.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:38 AM (EzgxV)

311 The 1950s/60s folk singers oftentimes represented liberalism at its best, when many of its practitioners could disagree without being disagreeable.

Peter, Paul and Mary are IMHO one of the finest examples.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:38 AM (ntObR)

312 cthulhu, yup. It's Shasta. I like to joke, I know it's great because they named a line of classic soft drinks after it. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:39 AM (ntObR)

313 Ahhhh, found it -- the exact recording that was haunting me from my childhood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQbBGnuVoI

Bahamas 1935 - Chanteys and Anthems from Andros and Cat Island

Henry Lundy - Round the Bay of Mexico

Once heard, never forgotten.

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:42 AM (jBuUi)

314 The internet is an amazing tool. In any other era, I'd be wondering to my dying day what that recording was. Now (with black-belt google-fu) I can track it down in two minutes.

Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 02:45 AM (jBuUi)

315 308 When Mount Lassen goes, that'll be the SMOD for California, Northern at least.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:33 AM (ntObR)




Lassen last went full-tilt boogie in about 1915. Shasta last did its Mt. Doom impression in 1786. There is nothing whatsoever to keep them from doing a Mt. St. Helens at any time.....and precious little to keep them from doing a Mt. Mazama (note that Mt. Mazama was estimated to be roughly 12,000 feet before collapse, and Mt. Shasta is 14,179 feet).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 02:51 AM (EzgxV)

316 Heh. Camping as a kid. I have one great memory...

We used to camp a lot, I guess. One time, maybe I was 5 or 6, we went out, set up camp, ate dinner, chased fireflies - the whole shebang. The adults finally put me to bed, then commenced getting their drink on.

Sometime during the night, Mom came to check on me, but I was gone. Vanished. Nowhere to be found. They looked everywhere.
I woke up about for o'clock in the morning to about 2 dozen campers (strangers) combing the woods calling out my name, searching with flashlights.

I walked up to somebody I didn't know, but he was calling out my name, rubbing my eyes, asking " what's all the noise about?"
Mom was crying and hugging me and cussing me - a crazy scene that I can picture right now...
Daybreak, they figured out what happened.
Seems Mom forgot to zip & secure one side of the pop-up camper when we set up camp. Yep - the side I was sleeping on. I rolled over in my sleep, fell out of and rolled right under the camper. Never woke up, hell, never even blinked, I bet.

Heh. Good times, childhood...

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 02:55 AM (dTd8m)

317 Chi, OMG.

Was thinking, the middle of a campground is a bad place to go sleepwalking.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:58 AM (ntObR)

318 cthulhu, yup.

So what kinds of screams you think we'll hear most from SF when they go up? Probably a mix of "AAAA!!" and "I blame Bush!!!!1!"

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:59 AM (ntObR)

319 Anything interesting happen in the comments so far?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 07, 2015 03:00 AM (0TXlm)

320 Hat, zombie's return, California volcanoes, and CD/record collecting information.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:02 AM (ntObR)

321 Hey that Jorge Ramos guy is awesome!

https://youtu.be/qfonxyWwN7k

Posted by: logprof, defending Moron Football League champion at September 07, 2015 03:05 AM (vsbNu)

322 @ 317
What's worse, Steve is that I was know for tossing &turning & rolling around in my sleep.
But being the youngest of four, I always had the top bunk bed.

I rolled out of bed so many times as a kid, they eventually stopped coming upstairs to see if I was okay. They just let me sleep & wake up on the floor.

I didn't know this until I was in highschool or later, btw... (step)Dad finally told me over a beer that I used to hit the floor so often, he knew it was time to change the channel to watch Johnny Carson.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 03:06 AM (dTd8m)

323 Chi, you must have liked to wear extra-cushy PJs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:10 AM (ntObR)

324 For those who are unfamiliar....the Cascades mountain range is created by the collision of the North American and Juan de Fuca tectonic plates. The Juan de Fuca is what remains of the old Farallon plate, now mostly gone. As these plates collide, the top edge of the Juan de Fuca is scraped off and added to the North American plate, while the remainder is shoved underneath the North American plate to melt. In the event that former seafloor is saturated with water or organics, heating these to the temperature of liquid rock would provide additional pressure for eruptions.




Mt. Mazama had one of those eruptions about 5677 BC....when there were people around. The pressurized steam and gas blew so much rock out of the core of the mountain that there was nothing to support its summit once everything had blown out -- and so it collapsed inward, forming a vast crater that is now the deepest lake in the US.




And the people who witnessed this? Yeah, the survivors chronicled it as the most awesome and terrifying thing ever.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 03:10 AM (EzgxV)

325 In honor of Chi's dad and changing the channel:

https://youtu.be/HORkT4a2MhQ (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 07, 2015 03:11 AM (YJmuy)

326 cthulhu, sounds like it was about the equivalent of several nuclear bombs dropping.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:15 AM (ntObR)

327 This is one the Horde oughta love: Kansas State marching band forms a giant dick on the football field during a performance.

They were trying to, in formation, depict a Star Trek themed little display where the Starship Enterprise attacked the mascot of their main rival.

One group formed the shape of the mascot, the other tried to form the Enterprise. Well, the Enterprise group ended up like a giant dick and balls headed straight toward the mouth of the mascot.

They claim it was all accidental.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 03:19 AM (dvuhZ)

328 326 cthulhu, sounds like it was about the equivalent of several nuclear bombs dropping.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:15 AM (ntObR)




I don't exactly know what it could be compared to. 5000 years later, there are legends....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 03:19 AM (EzgxV)

329 cthulhu, alls I knows is, when God wants to do some excavating...

you better get way, way, way out of the way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:22 AM (ntObR)

330 Was thinking, the middle of a campground is a bad place to go sleepwalking.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 02:58 AM (ntObR)

My uncle, who was terrified of heights, once went sleepwalking and climbed the old windmill on the farm one night. Grandma couldn't figure out how to get him down without him waking up and falling, so she sent my dad out to get him. Dad never has told me how he managed to convince Uncle Dan to climb down on his own, but Dan did not remember the event at all. Wish Grandma had taken a photo.

Then my GreatUncle Bub went sleepwalking from the farm all the way into Laramie, about 10 miles away. The sheriff found him trying to go into the bar and told him to get on home, so he did. He didn't remember that trip, either.

Of course, things were a bit different back then. They used to ride horses to go drinking so they could find their way back home when they were too drunk to drive....

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 07, 2015 03:22 AM (+YMhA)

331 They claim it was all accidental.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 03:19 AM (dvuhZ)

If they had made two huge bewbs, then we would know it had been morons in action.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 07, 2015 03:23 AM (+YMhA)

332 >>>Besides Boric Acid, has anyone had experience using Diatomaceous Earth as a pesticide?

I saw Diatomaceous Earth open for Earth, Wind and Fire in 1994.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 03:23 AM (CrC03)

333 tcn, sounds like he was an early Ambien user. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:24 AM (ntObR)

334 My folks (unbeknownst to me) had arranged to babysit a neighbor kid. The neighbors sent her over quite early in the morning without calling in advance -- and I answered the door in my bathrobe, said "there's no-one awake here", shut the door in her face and re-locked it, and went back to bed.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 03:27 AM (EzgxV)

335 I once tried to start up an Earth, Wind & Fire tribute band.

Unfortunately, Animal, Vegetable Or Mineral never really took off.

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:27 AM (ntObR)

336 >>>If you don't remember seeing Mount Shasta, you probably weren't there.

It's Mount Trayvon now.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 07, 2015 03:30 AM (CrC03)

337 What fascinates me are the ancient high civilization theories, that roughly hold there was some (and maybe several) global, high civilizations (argument over how advanced they were) that were wiped out by a cataclysm. It goes back to the 10,000BC, 12,000 years ago time period.

Humans have been around for what, 200K years, yet our recorded history is what, 5, 6K years? Sea levels were much lower at the end of the last Ice Age. Imagine if the cities of some ancient civ were near the old coast lines.

There is some theory that there were some catastrophic "rise" event that was responsible for the global flood myth that goes across all cultures as well as the Atlantis myth.

Mainstream considers all this to be nuts, but it sure fascinates the hell out of me.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 03:31 AM (dvuhZ)

338 337 What fascinates me are the ancient high civilization theories, that roughly hold there was some (and maybe several) global, high civilizations (argument over how advanced they were) that were wiped out by a cataclysm. It goes back to the 10,000BC, 12,000 years ago time period.

Humans have been around for what, 200K years, yet our recorded history is what, 5, 6K years? Sea levels were much lower at the end of the last Ice Age. Imagine if the cities of some ancient civ were near the old coast lines.

There is some theory that there were some catastrophic "rise" event that was responsible for the global flood myth that goes across all cultures as well as the Atlantis myth.

Mainstream considers all this to be nuts, but it sure fascinates the hell out of me.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 03:31 AM (dvuhZ)



Societies prosper until the cultural marxists take over and eradicate any traces of progress......

Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 03:35 AM (EzgxV)

339 publius, I always get in trouble when I say this, but I personally believe the biblical Noah story is actually the biblical version of... the theory of evolution.

I.e., some species (and civilizations) survived the great changes, and some didn't.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 07, 2015 03:35 AM (ntObR)

340 Wow. The Thing was 1982. That's older than some of our Morons.
Is it OK to admit man-crush on Kurt Russell?

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 03:42 AM (dTd8m)

341 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 07, 2015 03:45 AM (YJmuy)

342 Table sugar is heteronormative...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/q7wa7la

Posted by: The Sugary hat at September 07, 2015 03:46 AM (0TXlm)

343 Wow. The Thing was 1982. That's older than some of our Morons. Is it OK to admit man-crush on Kurt Russell?

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 03:42 AM

The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes Kurt Russell, or, Stargate Kurt Russell? 1982 was a long time ago, but, The Thing just gets better with age. I've come to the conclusion it's one of the best films ever made, regardless of genre.

Posted by: otho at September 07, 2015 03:51 AM (d8udV)

344 zombie at September 07, 2015 02:14 AM (jBuUi)

The version I heard was Yankee-ish:

Oh the Cape Cod girls,
They have no combs,
Heave away, Heave away,
Instead they use old cod fish bones,
& We're bound for Australia ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at September 07, 2015 03:51 AM (qOsoH)

345 327 This is one the Horde oughta love: Kansas State marching band forms a giant dick on the football field during a performance.

They were trying to, in formation, depict a Star Trek themed little display where the Starship Enterprise attacked the mascot of their main rival.

One group formed the shape of the mascot, the other tried to form the Enterprise. Well, the Enterprise group ended up like a giant dick and balls headed straight toward the mouth of the mascot.

They claim it was all accidental.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 07, 2015 03:19 AM (dvuhZ


I saw the clip. It looked like the Enterprise. Anyone claiming it looked like a dick and balls is tripping on acid.

Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2015 04:00 AM (zt+N6)

346 Table sugar is heteronormative...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q7wa7la
Posted by: The Sugary hat
---
Too many carbs. I prefer sucralose.

But yeah, that merited an eyeroll and a *smack* "what the heck is your problem?"

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 04:06 AM (CrC03)

347 I saw the clip. It looked like the Enterprise. Anyone claiming it looked like a dick and balls is tripping on acid.
Posted by: buzzion
------
Whatever it is I think I see
Becomes a tootsie roll to me.

Posted by: Emma Sulkowicz at September 07, 2015 04:12 AM (CrC03)

348 Any Kurt Russell, otho. He's just cool.
I kind can't of anything that he's ever done that wasn't awesome.
And yeah, I include Goldie Hawn in that statement.

Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 04:14 AM (dTd8m)

349 Anyone who thinks that formation resembles balls is nuts.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 04:19 AM (CrC03)

350 Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 04:14 AM (dTd8m)

****

Just in case you missed my post last night....

*Points and laughs*

That is all. Lol.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 04:19 AM (iF05+)

351 Posted by: Chi - The New Sheriff In Town at September 07, 2015 04:14 AM (dTd8m)

***

Yeah, that's about what I thought. You need a larger audience in order to respond. Catch you Tuesday. Lol.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 04:42 AM (iF05+)

352 Last!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 07, 2015 05:30 AM (4vXIq)

353 I believe the correct term is "bottomsies".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 07, 2015 05:46 AM (CrC03)

354 Or not, who days you can't make up sleep.
Good morning horde

Posted by: skip at September 07, 2015 06:05 AM (JghBF)

355 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 07, 2015 06:12 AM (KCxzN)

356 Guess everyone is waiting for a new morning thread

Posted by: skip at September 07, 2015 06:42 AM (JghBF)

357 G'morning all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 07, 2015 06:46 AM (VPLuQ)

358 *LICK*

Posted by: Ariana Grande

---

Hillary, was that you?

Posted by: Huma Abedin at September 07, 2015 06:52 AM (CrC03)

359 Well maybe this is proving my theory you can make up sleep.

Posted by: skip at September 07, 2015 07:04 AM (JghBF)

360 Can television take people of faith seriously?
Apparently in this one episode of a show they did

http://acculturated.com/television-people-fatih/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 07, 2015 07:04 AM (OSs/l)

361 Working critters for Labor Day. Courtesy of iowntheworld report:

http://tinyurl.com/phsbjtg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 07, 2015 07:07 AM (OSs/l)

362 The polar bear headline is wrong.
It should read:

"Violent, white, cis-gendered, carnivores seize hostages to stop vital global warming research affecting endangered species. Koch Brothers suspected of financing the mercenaries."

(The Al-Jazeera version will accuse them of being Zionists looking to occupy arctic territories.)

Posted by: Sam at September 07, 2015 10:56 AM (rRqyL)

363 @222 "I've got a heat pump split unit with a gas furnace in the attic space. Any recommendations in the 5 ton range?"

Blanco, with residential HVAC the quality of the installation and subsequent support is more important than the equipment brand. My recommendation is to seek out the HVAC company with the best reputation in your area (ask neighbors) and install the least expensive equipment that company will fully support. Make sure they do detailed load calculations to determine the actual capacity units you really need -- bigger is NOT better in HVAC and the original installations are often oversized which greatly reduces efficiency. If you can sweat out the rest of the summer, do research now and hold off actually buying until fall you'll probably get better deals on the equipment.

Posted by: Bigsmith at September 07, 2015 11:02 AM (m4vcY)

364 As far as I can tell, the makers of _No_Escape_ have made a movie everybody can hate. The SJWs can hate it because it's "racist". And everybody else can hate it because it pushes marxist twaddle about western countries "enslaving" third world countries through economic manipulation. (Basically, the "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" conspiracy world-view)

Posted by: Bill at September 07, 2015 11:28 AM (KlY7L)

365 #241 we used diamataceous earth on our cats and house for a flea outbreak and yes, it helped. Make sure you buy as bag labelled 'food grade', though.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 07, 2015 11:41 AM (Kucy5)

366 Nice to see SJW's getting their panties in a bunch over the Third World finishing third again in 'No Escape' but Brosnan is still a barking lefty so they ain't getting my money.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 07, 2015 11:45 AM (Kucy5)

367 Re: Movie review and Plot Summary...
Q:"But is there any escape?"
A: {per the title} Nope.

Posted by: socalcon at September 08, 2015 11:33 AM (vHlQ5)

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