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H/T NDH (you should follow her on the tweet thing: @mflynny) And of course Open Thread, because you maniacs do it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: EC at August 29, 2015 09:59 AM (j8YpL) 2
I always just assumed that bottled water was a fraud.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 10:00 AM (rwI+c) 3
Saw the new thread. Went back and mentioned it. Came back and realized I could've grabbed first if I hadn't been so danged thoughtful of others. Lesson learned.
Whateverth. I'm hungry. Posted by: mindful webworker - in deepest shame at August 29, 2015 10:02 AM (lADRM) 4
In my family, the canning was always done outside on the gas grill by the men -- with lotsa beer. Kept the heat outside and everyone had fun.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (MIKMs) 5
Pressure cooker accident pic: wow! Lucky folks if the damage was only limited to what we see. You could put somebody's eye out like that.
Posted by: mindful webworker - freeze-dried at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (lADRM) 6
That pic. Ho Lee Fuk.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (JKkRu) 7
Diamonds are a gurl's best friend.
Posted by: Charol Canning at August 29, 2015 10:07 AM (P6Jv8) 8
I remember when my Mom's canning setup 'sploded in 1964...this pic shows how cheap and weak stuff is made now....all we had to do was clean up a little....kitchen smelled like fermented peaches for ten years though....
Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 29, 2015 10:07 AM (hCdMd) 9
Pinto beans on kitchen walls are difficult to paint over.
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:08 AM (HtUkt) 10
Egypt found a couple of Al Jazeera reporters guilty and sentence to jail...and guess who is defending them? George Clooney's arab wife. Fuckin liberals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (DUoqb) 11
Came back and realized I could've grabbed first if I hadn't been so danged thoughtful of others. Lesson learned.
"First" things first. Morning Horde. Ye gods and garter snakes, that picture's a true example of Epic Fail. Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (m9V0o) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (KrAjA) 13
I'm just going to stick with drunken chainsawery. It seems safer.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (rwI+c) 14
Kroger sells canned food! No need to do it yourself!
Posted by: Kroger at August 29, 2015 10:11 AM (gwG9s) 15
BignJames: Pinto beans on kitchen walls are difficult to paint over.
That sounds like the voice of sad experience. Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh & raw at August 29, 2015 10:11 AM (lADRM) 16
I love reading this blog when I'm on the can.
Posted by: Charol Canning at August 29, 2015 10:15 AM (P6Jv8) 17
My favorite canning joke (yes, I have one)
Know why I buy mason jars? Because I can! HAHAHAHAHA oh man,I kill. Posted by: S2 at August 29, 2015 10:15 AM (NP4tM) 18
Didn't they used to put pressure gauges on those things so you could SEE when there's a blocked relief valve or something?
Still, there's supposed to be redundant over-pressure safety mechanisms on those things, I wonder how they all failed. RTFM. Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (2GbWn) 19
Two types of pressure cooker gauges:
Jigger types use a weighted piece of metal that lets off steam intermittently-makes a lot of noise but won't explode. Manual pressure regulator types have a pressure gauge with a valve you have to WATCH and adjust as heat increase to allow correct depressurization- they are more quiet and steady in their depressurization (they don't jigger), but if left unattended with incorrect valve release setting will explode. I've used both. I like hearing and knowing the pressure is being released, even though the jiggering of steam passage gets annoying. Better than a blowed up kitchen. I will only use the manually depressurized (unsafe) cookers outside and have to watch them closely, which is boring and counterproductive. Choose your canners accordingly. I'm sure there are other factors in choosing a canner, probably even digital pressure controls, but canning is old-school so I stick with the jigger style. Posted by: Orange Mule at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (i7m/g) 20
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (rwI+c)
Oh man....I lust after a chain saw. My little town has lots of big, old trees, and after significant storms we are usually left with downed trees all over the place. It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9) 21
Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh raw at August 29, 2015 10:11 AM (lADRM)
The paint looks ok at first, but after a few years a kind of pinkish tone comes thru...in spots. Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:17 AM (HtUkt) 22
I've sort of been there, not with canning though. Buddy and I were frying fish (and drinking) forgot about the oil and left burner too high. Long story short, I had blisters on hands and arms from throwing flaming oil off my deck.
Don't drink (to excess) and dangerous cook kiddies. Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (t7JTb) 23
Mmmmmm! Botulism!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (iQIUe) 24
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9) I think you should buy a chain saw also, that way, whenever I need one, I know who to call. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb) 25
HELP! What IS the deal w/these split threads?!? Where do I rant about the Fin du Monde?? BTW, a movie thread would be totes popular.
Posted by: Nancy-boy Graham at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (5buP8) Posted by: Barack Obama at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (P6Jv8) 27
"Jigger types use a weighted piece of metal that lets off steam intermittently-makes a lot of noise but won't explode. "
That's the kind my mom had. Noisy thing. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:19 AM (JKkRu) 28
Clooney and his arab wife can both diaf for all I care. How come we don't jail "journalists"?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (ucDmr) 29
That is so awesome!
Posted by: Dzhokar Tsarnaev at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (P6Jv8) 30
They didn't lock that lid in place correctly.
OT, but y'know what would be cool? And a moneymaker for the states? DMV should have a Bloody Mary vending machine in every branch. Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (ENe42) Posted by: Brian Williams the Truth Teller at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (OiFtZ) 32
ho lee cow
Posted by: chemjeff at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (2XMpf) 33
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9) Absolutely! Chainsaw work isn't work at all. I love cutting shit down. Pro-tips: be super careful "bucking" or cutting wood when it's on the ground. keep the tip out of the dirt and rocks. Also, make sure your pre-mix is accurate. I have a friend who was brought up in the country. She said: "It wasn't a party until the chainsaws and fireworks came out." Posted by: Nancy-boy Graham at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (5buP8) 34
My mother used to freeze soup and stuff, then she started getting senile, and she'd live there for 3 or more years. We started taking my mother out to eat and stopped eating at her house.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:24 AM (DUoqb) 35
Lifetime bachelor RINO sock off.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (5buP8) 36
>>>Jigger types use a weighted piece of metal that lets off steam intermittently-makes a lot of noise but won't explode.
WHO YOU CALLIN JIGGER? I MAKE NOISE AND ASPLODE IF I WANT TO. Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (P6Jv8) 37
I have used both. The Wife loves home made apple sauce, and we have canned as many as 50 quarts on a single Saturday. With the kids gone, we now do 25-30.
I agree that the manual ones are boring AND scary, but since we are in the kitchen, anyway, it is not a big deal. I really like brown rice cooked in the smaller, "jigger-style" one. Posted by: LochLomondFarms at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (hEDF1) 38
"You know, I could have sworn that hobo was dead when I stuffed him in the pot"
Posted by: chemjeff at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (2XMpf) 39
My wife is making a party tomorrow for our 2 daughters who graduated from Grad School. She is working her fingers to the bone dialing for take out
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (DUoqb) 40
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at
Yes. Buy a lager (ish) one, then scale down the bar and chain. Stihl or husqvarna, just don't try and spell them, are great. In the past year I've cut easily 1000 trees with my husqvarna, I got the model with 20 inch bar, but use 16 inch on it. Don't buy cheap chainsaw, you will be frustrated. They have half the number of teeth as a good one. No idea why. And to stay on topic, you can use the wood to cook. Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:26 AM (t7JTb) 41
Oh man....I lust after a chain saw.
I used to live in the Santa Cruz mountains and one time a freak storm dropped two feet of snow, something that probably only happens once a century. Trees came down all over and blocked roads, knocked out power and phone, etc. You could hear the chainsaws running for weeks all through the mountains and valleys. Free firewood! Of course, that was back when the gov'ment wouldn't try to throw you in jail for burning it. So now nobody has a chainsaw or bothers to clear the deadwood. Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 10:26 AM (2GbWn) 42
I totally endorse the use of chainsaws to solve your excess wood problems.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 29, 2015 10:27 AM (2XMpf) 43
Hey CBD, I got this long list of things I need or lust for in my house. I'm gonna send you my list in case you have a hankering to buy any of them?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:28 AM (DUoqb) 44
Don't drink (to excess) and dangerous cook kiddies.
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (t7JTb) =========== I remember a news story about a deep fryer set up on a cement patio. Unfortunately, their son who was riding on his bike in circles around the fryer fell and knocked it over. He did not survive the burns. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:29 AM (iQIUe) 45
Jeb is talking about G-D in his campaign? I wonder if the "MSM" will ask him for his favorite passages like they did with Trump?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:29 AM (DUoqb) Posted by: Danny Vermin at August 29, 2015 10:30 AM (QoA8Q) 47
"Don't buy cheap chainsaw, you will be frustrated. They have half the number of teeth as a good one. No idea why."
Have Huskys back home but I went and bought a cheap-ass Homelite for the house. It's okay for use a few times a year but don't push it. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (JKkRu) 48
Anyone talks back to Ace gets a canning!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (pgzyN) 49
Canning is a fading art, but a very good idea. You can pickle nearly anything and it often tastes better that way. Stores longer, too. Gardens + canning = food all year long that you didn't have to buy at the store and does not require refrigeration. The tough part is sterilizing the bottles, and that's time consuming but the end result is so worth it.
My mom even pickled green cherry tomatoes one year, they were great on salads or as a side dish with a sandwich. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (39g3+) 50
I can see why that would get passed around as a fun canning joke, but the disaster pic is not a canning accident, the pic front paged on Reddit last week, and it's a pressure cooker malfunction, they were just making dinner.
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (3fTXW) 51
Ya paints over the 'sploded pinto beans, first with two coats of old-fashioned Kilz. The oil based kind, not the useless latex version.
It'll stop the bean-oil from burning through the paint. Then you can paint over the Kilz, with whatever type n' color of paint you might prefer. And the bean stains won't show, ever. And if, way back in time, you might've painted over said stains without the Kilz, and now the oils are burning through the paint? The Kils will still work, but now you get the pleasure of doing a whole new paint job. But hey, it's the weekend, right? Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (McRlu) Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 10:33 AM (1brdf) 53
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Hey CBD, I got this long list of things I need or lust for in my house. I'm gonna send you my list in case you have a hankering to buy any of them? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:28 AM (DUoqb) Great idea....you could help him select the makes/models. Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (HtUkt) 54
Mazel tov!!
My two just started (well, one's a 2nd year). Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 10:33 AM (1brdf) Thanks. I am lucky. They are good kids. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (DUoqb) 55
Can you can rosebuds?
Posted by: Citizen Can at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (P6Jv8) 56
The. Redditor got so much attention he deleted his account.
But here's the original thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3i9nl0/why_im_not_allowed_to_cook_dinner_anymore/ Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (3fTXW) 57
The risk of blowing stuff up is why we only can tomatoes and pickle stuff at my house. You can use just regular boiling water for sterilization. Acid is your friend.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (7CUQa) 58
51, not that I've tried it, but I'm relatively certain old school kilz will cover hobo blood stains too.
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:35 AM (t7JTb) 59
I have a decent-sized patch of woods, and I seldom have to fell trees -- dealing with deadfalls provides me with abundant firewood. I bought a wood stove chiefly as a way to get rid of all the damned wood.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:36 AM (7CUQa) Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2015 10:37 AM (P6Jv8) 61
Caning is a fading art too.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:37 AM (jR7Wy) 62
I hope things don't get so bad in our lifetimes that we need to learn and use things like canning to survive, but do you want to bet your future on it? Its one of those basic skills we should know. Maybe even one all women ought to learn? Men in such a future would be too busy building and hunting and protecting and such.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:38 AM (39g3+) 63
I can Nutella lice.
Posted by: Jorge Washington at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (P6Jv8) 64
Has anyone attempted to make sauerkraut at home? We're accumulating cabbages from the farm share faster than we can eat them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (7CUQa) 65
Somebody glued the blowout down.
Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (DL2i+) 66
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Live in a cold climate? Have a fireplace? Winter is coming and buying wood is getting expensive. As a matter of fact investing in a chainsaw might mean you could make some cash cutting wood for others. Posted by: Tuna at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (JSovD) 67
I like the pot lid imbedded in the ceiling. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (iQIUe) 68
I will only use the manually depressurized (unsafe) cookers
Every modern one I've seen has a rubber blowout plug that Wont hold a splosions worth of pressure. Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (DL2i+) 69
Alton Brown claims making sauerkraut is pretty easy if you have the right supplies
https://youtu.be/Qa4CxkIYsbA Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (39g3+) 70
Looks like Newton's Law is still being enforced. Must be local law instead of federal.
Posted by: Agitator at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (mRfGa) 71
Men in such a future would be too busy building and hunting and protecting and such.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:38 AM (39g3+) --- Forging, fortifying, fletching, and makin' hobo jerkey. And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (jR7Wy) 72
Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (McRlu)
Man...that would've been so helpful...about 30 years ago. Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:43 AM (HtUkt) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:43 AM (vM+YG) 74
I bought a wood stove chiefly as a way to get rid of all the damned wood.
We closed on our house a year ago today, there is a propane fueled set of gas logs. I assumed the fireplace was one of the gas log fireplaces and not a real one. Until I looked at it. Actual real fireplace, with a blower. Out comes the gas logs and this winter I'm burning man. Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:44 AM (t7JTb) 75
So muzzies can besides kill people with those damn things?,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:44 AM (vM+YG) 76
a rubber blowout plug
You can see it in the pic. The valve is in the center of the lid and that black spot below it is the plug. Somebody kept that from blowing out before the clamps failed. Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:45 AM (DL2i+) 77
They are going to have to put in new drywall.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 10:45 AM (PMlgt) 78
Do not buy a cheap chainsaw.
Same as do not buy a cheap gun. Specific tool with specific purpose. And, a failure can kill you or someone else. I have a Husqvarna Rancher 55 with 18" bar and three hardwood chains. I hate stopping to sharpen chains, so I just go through those three and call it a day. I get about an hour of good cutting from each sharpened chain. I bought the Stihl extendable pole saw last year for safety reasons and to get a longer reach up into living trees. Glorious, it is. Posted by: Orange Mule at August 29, 2015 10:46 AM (i7m/g) 79
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9) Get a sthil or husqverna Don't worry about cutting for others cut for yourself. Firewood warms you approximately 6 times. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (vM+YG) 80
Traye: you have to let man dry out a long time before you burn it.
At least, that's what a friend told me. Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (7CUQa) 81
Beautiful morning to the horde.
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (9jeGC) 82
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9) Buy a Stihl. Get a pro-sized model if you must. Poulans are ok, and Echos are ok, but the Stihl is like a Mercedes. Buying a "backyard" sized saw is like kneading bread with a Sunbeam mixer. Nothing good comes of it. Also, make sure your saws all use the same oil:gas ratio, same size chain, buy chaps, get a safety class, and wear hearing protection or you will have tinnitus like me. And buy non-ethanol gas always. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (3pRHP) 83
Some old guy told me to use hairspray over oily stains to prevent bleed-through when you repaint. Does anyone know if that works? Haven't had to try it yet, but it sounds logical, so I wonder if anyone else has heard of that.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (MIKMs) 84
And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques.
Better a sapper, than a sap, eh? /aims trebuchet Choose your response carefully. Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (m9V0o) 85
Looks like the lid was not fully rotated into the locked position, about 1/4 turn. If it was only partially screwed on, the pressure would force the lid back around the thread and - lift off!
I've been canning for years and never had a mishap. Use good equipment and be smart. Posted by: David at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (TeSnk) 86
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Tape all your knives to a moped wheel. If you can walk to the end of the driveway without cutting anything you MAY be careful enough for a chainsaw. Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:49 AM (DL2i+) 87
Kroger: Kroger sells canned food! No need to do it yourself!
Yeah, here's a food thought. (Long one, sorry.) My grandmother, to my uncle's new bride: Never can anything that you can just buy off the shelf. Gramma spoke from experience, after decades of raising and canning their garden produce. There's a big trade-off in that idea, it's true, but oh, that Economy of Scale! That same EoS is what makes store-bought bread instead of home-made so popular and fast food instead of home-cooking so successful, right? Milady and I were practically founding subscribers to Mother Earth News life. We were all about fresh home cooking and gardening and canning and making bread and our own yogurt and... Actually, when we started out, you could barely find good, plain yogurt or decent whole bread even at the "health food store" (with the nice white-haired old lady that smelled like B vitamins - the store, not the lady). By gramma's rule, we really couldn't find what we wanted on the shelf back then. Anyway, Milady is a master in the kitchen, and you cannot find anything equivalent to her baked goods or pizza sauce, or anything else, even today. When we had the kids at home, to some degree, baking fresh bread was more sensible. It was even part of the Home Schooling. Now, with kids gone and just the old grumps at home, well, they deliver pizza, right? (Thinking back, when the kids were young, we still lived in Chicago, and the EoS meant ordering in or dining out was easier. We went out for food we couldn't easily make at home. Gyros, tzatziki, baklava! But, three kids, mostly meals at home.) Anyway, even before kids (last millennium), young couple us almost immediately experienced that EoS meant one thing: is this the best use of your time? What else would you do with the time you'd spend kneading or weeding every week? (Or canning.) Having been infected with entrepreneurialism, what we'd really like to do is be on the other side of the equation. We've run food service now and then, but mom'n'pop style restaurant or small sprouts business is not much above home cooking on the EoS. Better to have our own brand, restaurants and store goods, with Milady's recipes! Then we'd be able to go to the store and buy it off the shelf. And she could experiment with new ideas at home, which is the best, and the successful experiments added to the menu and product line. We haven't realized that idea, and may not, but I've thought more and more like that since we first baked bread together. So to speak. The Market for what we like is much greater today than ever, too. Meanwhile, I'm glad that the Market means we've got fresh healthy eggs via a local chicken rancher, plenty of good "health foods" in the regular grocery stores, and of course the finest locally-grown grass-fed black angus in various delicious forms. And pizza delivered. Those ranchers and farmers and the pimply delivery kid with the battered vehicle, all save us the time and effort, and make buying more economical than doing every little thing ourselves. Which works for me, as we get older and as time gets tighter. And seems to work very well for everyone. Until the Obamanation venezuelas our food supply.... Posted by: mindful webworker - the woild is my oisteah at August 29, 2015 10:49 AM (lADRM) 88
I think you should buy a chain saw also, that way, whenever I need one, I know who to call.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb Look into a pick up truck as well Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (9jeGC) 89
64 Has anyone attempted to make sauerkraut at home? We're accumulating cabbages from the farm share faster than we can eat them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 My daughter found an easy recipie on line. I would go that route. My mom made at home when I was a kid using crocks. Sorry I don't have a recipie. Lots of cabbage, tried some fried with carrots and onions. ------- You try it yet CBD?, Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (vM+YG) 90
Cops being shot execution style. Muzzies raging across US and Europe. Anchor crew executed on live TV by a gay, black, Obama psycho-sycophant.
We're gonna need a bigger boat. Posted by: The Memory Hole at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (5buP8) 91
I visited a gf in SF. She lived in this large, old, luxury, third floor flat with a deck in back. Because it was built on a hill, her neighbors on one side who also had a deck were about 10 feet lower. We were bbq and her 3 gay neighbors were trying to smoke a turkey. There were flames everywhere. They sprayed it with what I thought was a water bottle but it made things worse. The turkey caught on fire. They tried to remove the turkey but dropped it on the wooden deck. They tried to pick it up but by then the wooden deck had caught on fire. Finally told gf to go call fire department. Sheesh. You wd think 3 gay guys wd know how to cook or at least not burn the flat down.
So, remember, every kitchen needs a fire extinguisher. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (iQIUe) 92
Did someone say felching hobos?
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (QoA8Q) 93
No, you don't tap n plug the safety pop-off with 3/8" NPT because the original rubber got hard and leaked.
Posted by: Arkindole at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (s+u4I) 94
88 I think you should buy a chain saw also, that way, whenever I need one, I know who to call.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb Look into a pick up truck as well Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (9jeGC) Chainsaw, wood splitter, truck and trailer. Couple of gas cans, some gloves, sharpeners, wrenches. You are good to go. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (vM+YG) 95
Looks like the lid was not fully rotated into the locked position, about 1/4 turn. If it was only partially screwed on, the pressure would force the lid back around the thread and - lift off!
**** Nope. The lid was on quite well. It didn't just blow upwards, it blew out the entire top of the stove and the oven. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 10:53 AM (PMlgt) 96
That's a staged picture, totes fake. In fact 80% of all pressure cooker accidents have been shown to be frauds. In most cases, professional actors are the victims.
There is a lot of evidence for this out there on the nets, but I just don't have time right now to look it all up for you. Wake Up Sheeple. Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 29, 2015 10:53 AM (xq1UY) 97
Looks like a clear case of operator error. But, a stunning effect none the less! I think that there was probably also poop to clean up when that baby went bang.
Posted by: goon at August 29, 2015 10:57 AM (gy5kE) 98
And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM Rule #1: If the enemy has a big, strong fortress, see to it that he stays in there. Posted by: Shih Tzu at August 29, 2015 10:58 AM (KrAjA) 99
Ye gods, I am a geek.
Modern pressure canners have a pressure interlock that keep you from taking the lid off under pressure. There are ways to defeat that, but it requires a level of sophistication akin to fishing for your own kidney. That pic is an older pressure-canner, without a pressure gauge, and probably used a dial or pop-up type weight to monitor pressure... though it is normal in those to only have the jiggler weight on top of the stem. From the lid stuck in the ceiling, that model (and this is why I am a geek) looks like a 70's Mirro. Since the lid looks fairly ok and the pot looks fairly straight, I suspect the cook was pre-heating the water to do canning or cooking ( I am guessing cooking a stew from the stuff on the counter and lack of jars) and was using an old worn-in pot that had the seal that was a bit old, and forgot to release pressure before twisting the lid off. Internal pressure did the rest. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 10:58 AM (3pRHP) 100
Chainsaw, wood splitter, truck and trailer. Couple of gas cans, some gloves, sharpeners, wrenches. You are good to go. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (vM+YG) Buddy has all that but forgot them last weekend so I had to take down two trees with a damn hatchet. (Not gonna lie, it was exhausting but it was fun just whacking the hell out of them and then seeing where they'd fall.) Clearing firing lines for his tree stand. Bonus- jumping the creek I went shin deep in mud. Which saved me from the chiggers which he picked up. Woo hop. Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:59 AM (9jeGC) 101
True story: friend was maintenance man at a family estate. On Monday he'd find the chain saw covered with dirt. Turns out that young scion was using it to edge his garden on the weekends. More money than sense.
Posted by: The Rich are Different at August 29, 2015 11:00 AM (gwG9s) 102
It done did blowed up - -as they say in NASCAR. We had one like that when I was a kid. It got overpressured and my dad hustled it outside just before it blew. I still remember the lid flying way up in the air and strings of beef hanging from the phone and electric lines.
Posted by: oldgeezer at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (+uiwA) 103
Out comes the gas logs and this winter I'm burning man.
Get a chimney sweep in to make sure its unclogged and ready for use. Its not too expensive and definitely cheaper than a chimney fire because some bird built a nest one time. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (39g3+) 104
When we were kids, we were scared of the pressure cooker. I liked when the doohickey was removed and the resulting noise and steam. I think it was the heaviness of the pot and lid which made my 5 y/o self nervous. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (iQIUe) Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:02 AM (NOIQH) 106
My grandmother used to use her stove as occasional storage. She once had a can of pork'n'beans that was in the oven explode while she was pre-heating it for biscuits, and my poor uncle Hank was covered with hot beany magma. Heat and pressure. They are dangerous.
Posted by: Strictly from apathy at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM (8n+U+) 107
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:28 AM (DUoqb)
Hah..... But I think I will get the chain saw! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM (Zu3d9) 108
Part of me would like to learn how to can, but then I'd have to learn how to garden, and that would require spending even more time working in the back yard. So yeah, I'll just hit the local mega-mart whenever they have a sale on cases of canned goods. If TEOTWAWKI happens, I'll have Del Monte canned beans to go with my free range hobo steaks.
Posted by: PabloD at August 29, 2015 11:05 AM (3RNW8) 109
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 29, 2015 10:53 AM (xq1UY)
LMAO. We can't handle the truth eh? Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:06 AM (9jeGC) 110
My grandmother used to use her stove as occasional storage. She once had a can of pork'n'beans that was in the oven explode while she was pre-heating it for biscuits, and my poor uncle Hank was covered with hot beany magma. Heat and pressure. They are dangerous. Posted by: Strictly from apathy at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM P.J. O'Rourke called that recipe Soup Nagasaki. Put can of soup in oven. Heat to 500 degrees. Get the hell out of the kitchen. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 11:06 AM (KrAjA) 111
Nice touch with the lid embedded in the ceiling. I missed that at first.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:07 AM (sdi6R) 112
My son was using an outdoor gas burner. Couldn't figured out why he couldn't light it. Went out side, and the air was thick with gas smell. He had the gas turned up for a few minutes, but left the cover over the burner. He's lucky he didn't burn hisself up
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:07 AM (zOTsN) 113
Somebody must have a good cat in the microwave story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 11:08 AM (oZr5y) 114
P.J. O'Rourke called that recipe Soup Nagasaki. Put can of soup in oven. Heat to 500 degrees. Get the hell out of the kitchen.
**** heh Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 11:08 AM (PMlgt) Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 11:09 AM (PMlgt) 116
Maybe when Mr Haney shows up with his truck, the canner can buy some supplies.
Posted by: Baldy at August 29, 2015 11:10 AM (sEXjW) 117
Mom had one of those old pressure cookers with the jigger. I was always afraid of it when I was a kid.
I do all my canning via water bath. It helps that there is a family about a mile away that grow acres of fruits and veggies and sell them in a little market on their property. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (PfVjp) 118
Alton Brown claims making sauerkraut is pretty easy if you have the right supplies
https://youtu.be/Qa4CxkIYsbA I remember driving through a small town in upstate New York while in college and it was the sauerkraut factory you could smell for miles. (Silver Floss I think) long gone now, I think they moved to Mexico or someplace a few years ago. Posted by: Colin at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (yXxFf) 119
Pressure cookers. They scare me.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (cbfNE) 120
Somebody must have a good cat in the microwave story.Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 11:08 AM Story? No. Recipes, on the other hand....
Posted by: Alf at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (KrAjA) 121
Is this supposed to be funny?
-------- Schrodinger said it might be funny, but then again, it might not. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (oZr5y) 122
Stringer Davis: ...80% of all pressure cooker accidents have been shown to be frauds...
So, are you just going to make that unsubstantiated claim, or do you have specific examples, you pressure cooker troofer? Posted by: mindful webworker - eat yer peas at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (lADRM) 123
>>DMV should have a Bloody Mary vending machine in every branch.
YES - Margaritas, too. Just received my new license in the mail from the DMV and I look so pissed, photo taken after over an hour of waiting, and after messing up my license info twice - getting my address wrong (which is why I was there) and twice marking me as an organ donor against my will (unsettling). Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:12 AM (NOIQH) 124
Pressure cookers are scary. But they aren't critical for a lot of canning, just useful because they save time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:14 AM (39g3+) 125
I tried to can stewed tomatoes last weekend. It did not turn out well.
I couldn't keep the pressure down to 10lbs so the tomatoes overcooked, separated out and boiled out under the lids so I wound up with about 1/3 failure and the rest looked like clotted blood and serum. So I made tomato juice. 100% sealing. Yeah! I also discovered this year that I have been canning peaches wrong. In the past the peaches start to slump and turn icky in the jars. Not spoiling, but looking hideous. I was only hot water bath canning them for 10 minutes, and I am told that was not long enough to deactivate the enzymes. I will see how this turns out. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:14 AM (3pRHP) 126
One time when I was in college is was trying to lit the griddle on an industrial gas stove. Of course I was an idiot. When it lit the flames went up my right arm to my bangs and forehead
Smelled of burnt hair, wasn't hurt. But the air on the left eyebrow burnt off ( it grew back), half my bangs were gone. And my eyelashes burned in such a way that they had little balls on the end so they looked like upside down exclamation points. Must've been the mascara Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:15 AM (zOTsN) 127
Kindlot, get thyself a Ball Blue Book. You will have much success. Mine is over 20 years old. I love it. I always have to adjust times on cooking at high altitude.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (PfVjp) 128
>>Part of me would like to learn how to can, but then I'd have to learn how to garden...
Nope, I can w/out being much of a gardener. The problem I run into is Too Much for my little family. One year I was giving everyone a pint of peach butter for Christmas. Fortunately there are all sorts of small batch recipes out there - this is my favorite site: http://foodinjars.com/ Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (NOIQH) 129
Horrible. Ok. Hair on left eyebrow burnt off, not air.
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:18 AM (zOTsN) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:18 AM (vM+YG) 131
I had a co-worker that grew up on a farm, and they made sauerkraut by the barrel.
When he was a little kid they would use him to tamp down the shredded cabbage. They would sift in a layer of shredded cabbage and salt, and then lift him in to stomp it down in his bare feet. He said that he remembered one of his relatives saying, part way through, "has that child washed his feet?" I have made it in 5 gallon buckets with weights made out of ziplock bags filled with water. I was not careful enough and got a bacterial contamination and it went all mushy. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:19 AM (3pRHP) 132
Thank god for makeup it was an interesting look, half bangs, one eyebrow and no eyelashes (I had to trim the balls off)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (zOTsN) 133
I couldn't stop laughing at that pic. I'm a bad person.
Regarding Brewer's sidebar post about heroin, I've been asking the same thing for years. As far as I know, it's not painful and the governments must have plenty of stuff as evidence after the trial ends, so why not? Posted by: Social Justice WARRIOR! at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (C9lNt) 134
I have made it in 5 gallon buckets with weights made out of ziplock bags filled with water. I was not careful enough and got a bacterial contamination and it went all mushy.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:19 AM (3pRHP) There are so many good kraits here (WI) I see no need to make your own Canned peaches, now that's different Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG) 135
132 Thank god for makeup it was an interesting look, half bangs, one eyebrow and no eyelashes (I had to trim the balls off)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (zOTsN) --- Sounds like most Nu Wave frontmen. Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (jR7Wy) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (iQIUe) 137
And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques.
So don't be a sap, be a sapper? (I had to trim the balls off) All the men just crossed their legs and grimaced. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (39g3+) 138
Kindlot, get thyself a Ball Blue Book. You will
have much success. Mine is over 20 years old. I love it. I always have to adjust times on cooking at high altitude. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (PfVjp) No, I have one. I just seem to be convinced I remember things at times. I am very obsessive about pressure canning non-acid foods though, since botulism is no-ones' friend. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (3pRHP) 139
Ok time to move mid kid
See ya morons Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG) 140
I see you've found a replica of my sisters experience.
Posted by: willow at August 29, 2015 11:23 AM (nqBYe) 141
Although we do have two pressure cookers, the jiggly kind.
Hubby uses them to make flan once in a while. He only cooks when there's danger involved. Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:23 AM (cbfNE) 142
Eris, yeah. Lucky it was the 80s
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (zOTsN) 143
There are so many good kraits here (WI) I see no need to make your own
Canned peaches, now that's different Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG) --- It only takes 10% bad Krauts to cause trouble. *waits for the banhammer* Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (jR7Wy) 144
Like a white Grace Jones
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (zOTsN) 145
Just received my new license in the mail from the DMV and I look so pissed, photo taken after over an hour of waiting, and after messing up my license info twice - getting my address wrong (which is why I was there) and twice marking me as an organ donor against my will (unsettling).
Posted by: Lizzy ...................... There is a neat little feature on the DMV map that shows live wait times at every branch around me. "22 mins wait" etc. I checked my local when I left the house, 26 mins. Up to 29 when I got here. Walking in, I asked a lady walking out "how long is the wait today?" Her: "Not too bad. A little over an hour." I've been here an hour and twenty already... Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:25 AM (ENe42) 146
thunderb, my children and i were out for a nice lunch one time and my child just had to look inside the glass holding the candle.
hair caught on fire i am slapping the crap out of the head until i finish with ice water. we all laughed and laughed. not Posted by: willow at August 29, 2015 11:26 AM (nqBYe) 147
A couple of years ago I made pear chutney, which was fantastic, out of the Ball Blue Book. I find it hard to judge how much red pepper to put in, so the two batches I made were very different in spiciness.
Also, this year I made my first successful batch of blackberry jam in a long time. I bought a deep stock pot to do jam in last winter, and it has done me wonders since I don't have to nurse my boiling jam to keep it on a quick boil but not boiling over. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:27 AM (3pRHP) 148
I buy a brand of sauerkraut called "Krisp Kraut" that is made in Wisconsin.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:27 AM (sdi6R) 149
Texas DMV you check in, give your phone number and they will text you when it's your turn. You check and it will say 18 minutes, or whatever
So you can do other stuff. You don't have to wait there. It's genius Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:28 AM (zOTsN) 150
Regarding Brewer's sidebar post about heroin,
_______________ And when will we have the national conversation about banning heroin? Posted by: Kenway at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (JYlmW) 151
The DMV here is interesting. We have so many, er, Hispanic Immigrants in Salem that there are usually a couple dozen at any given time in the DMV. But me as a white guy get in right away. Is it racism? Is it anti-immigrant nativist cruelty?
No, actually its that they can tell I won't need an interpreter because I speak the local language, and the stuff I need to do is easy and quick while usually they have to go through a lot of trouble and only a few people can help them. So bing, I get to cut in line and go right in without much of a wait if any. In Oregon, you have to show two pieces of proof of residence to get a license, including proof of citizenship. I had to show a birth certificate. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (39g3+) 152
>>145 Just received my new license in the mail from the DMV and I look so pissed, photo taken after over an hour of waiting, and after messing up my license info twice - getting my address wrong (which is why I was there) and twice marking me as an organ donor against my will (unsettling).
Posted by: Lizzy They don't give it to you before you leave? Weird. One single thing huckabee did ok in arkansas was to streamline dvm services. It's generally pretty simple to go in. Posted by: Lea at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (vmMMi) 153
Cooking accidents. When I was 15 I was frying a hotdog, knocked tge skillet over and got an oil burn on my thigh (luckily small).
My friend grabbed a tomato and squished it over the burn. Said that was sure to heal it. It did cool it down. I have a scar around an inch in diameter as a reminder to this day. Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (cbfNE) Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (Zu3d9) 155
Speaking of canned. News has it that three big fundraisers for Bush just canned him.
Interesting times. Posted by: Drider at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (6Xbsz) 156
Texas is another country compared to Va, Thunder.
One day... Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (ENe42) 157
145 Just received my new license in the mail from the DMV
You have to wait for your license in this digital camera & computer age Posted by: Cicero Skip at August 29, 2015 11:31 AM (FIrEF) 158
Texas they give you a paper license and mail you the new one
And for a first license you have to bring a bajillion proofs of ID and residence. Same in NJ. Of course a lot of the 911 hijackers got their fake ID in NJ, so they cracked down Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:31 AM (zOTsN) Posted by: Caitlyn The Bruce at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (FcR7P) 160
My mom started canning and quilting a few years ago. She's doing all the things she wanted to do when we were kids but never had the time. She planted fig trees so they could have some for fig preserves. I love getting a few jars of it for Christmas. I told my folks to plant mayhaw too.
Posted by: no good deed at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (GgxVX) 161
Egypt found a couple of Al Jazeera reporters guilty and sentence to jail...and guess who is defending them? George Clooney's arab wife. Fuckin liberals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (DUoqb) If they had just executed the traitors, the Egyptians wouldn't have to put up with that BS. And two 9mm bullets probably cost less than a day's worth of food for the scum, even crappy gyppo prison rations. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (aRgrb) 162
Yes, in Pennsylvania I get my license right then and there at the end. Since they use digital cameras, they show me the photo and offer to retake it if I don't like it. That's pretty nice.
There are two DMV locations about equidistant from me. One is closer to the city and the other is more rural. I always go to the rural one. Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (sdi6R) 163
Pressure cookers: they're not just for terrorists.
Posted by: Lola Heatherington, Bounching Back to You at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (VBbCO) 164
Caitlyn I would help you but you have to burn them off with gas first
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (zOTsN) 165
Until it died, I had an aloe vera plant around that was useful for burns. Just cut off a segment and smoosh it onto the burn spot. Instant relief and it heals faster. Hard to find them these days though. They were really trendy a while and now nobody even cares about them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (39g3+) 166
So ThunderB invented Skrillex???
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (9jeGC) Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (Vyg9x) 168
>>160 My mom started canning and quilting a few years ago. She's doing all the things she wanted to do when we were kids but never had the time. She planted fig trees so they could have some for fig preserves. I love getting a few jars of it for Christmas. I told my folks to plant mayhaw too.
Posted by: no good deed at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (GgxVX) I low fig preserves! It's actually fig season now, maybe I should make some. I haven't canned anything this year.. Posted by: Lea at August 29, 2015 11:35 AM (vmMMi) 169
I always keep a bottle of aloe Vera gel in the fridge. Cause I'm dangerous
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (zOTsN) 170
In Oregon, you have to show two pieces of proof of residence to get a license, including proof of citizenship. I had to show a birth certificate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor .......................... I had to show BC, SS card and proof of residense just to get a ticket & number. I showed her a letter addressed to me at home from DMV. "Oh, it can't come from us - we don't know your address." Seriously. "I need a water bill or something like that" Luckily, I brought my latest city home assessment statement, just in case, because I know that they are retards. Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (ENe42) 171
I think we last bought aloe vera plants from Lowes or Home Depot. Dunno if they have tgem these days. They are the best for burns.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (cbfNE) 172
My main takeaway from this thread is that ThunderB has bangs. I like bangs.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:37 AM (sdi6R) 173
In good news, we finally got some rain here in Oregon. It was just a trace, but it was nice to see. Probably more coming today based on what I can see out my window to the west. Very dark, heavy clouds.
Supposed to be a colder winter this year, I hope that translates into plenty rain and not just cold and ice. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:39 AM (39g3+) 174
I want fig trees!
-- Y'know, that long comment of mine didn't look that long in notepad, but looks like a comment bomb here. Gurk. -- Milady got her license renewed earlier this month. Went to the new agency location, which is closer and more convenient, and was in and out in about five minutes. Gotta go in myself on Monday, when I'll have my own report. But, basically, here in civilization, the DMZ and even the Post Office are as a rule staffed with friendly people who do their job efficiently and with a smile. (Some of the customers in line at the post office can be troubling, like one loon recently who had some kind of petty stamp problem, but the staff were friendly and patient to a fault even with him.) I've read it's not this way out in the wilderlands? Posted by: mindful webworker - civilization beats the alternative at August 29, 2015 11:39 AM (lADRM) 175
Our suburban DMV is pretty good.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:41 AM (cbfNE) 176
The post offices here are always friendly and nice and cordial; and not that forced kind you get from store clerks. They really seem happy with their jobs and like to help out. Given how much they're paid I don't know why anyone would go "postal."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:41 AM (39g3+) 177
Until it died, I had an aloe vera plant around that was useful for burns. Just cut off a segment and smoosh it onto the burn spot. Instant relief and it heals faster. Hard to find them these days though. They were really trendy a while and now nobody even cares about them.
Daughter bought me one from home depot this spring. Mine is doing better than hers. A bottle of aloe jell is great for a sun burn too. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (PfVjp) 178
>>They don't give it to you before you leave? Weird.
Yeah, and they don't tell you about that up front. When I went in and stopped by the information desk I told the woman I needed to update the address on my license because I would be flying soon - and she never bothered to clarify if I might be travelling in the next 2 weeks (that's how long it took to get). So after all the hassle I leave the DMV w/a *voided* picture ID and a paper printout temp license. Luckily the TSA didn't give it a second look - but I was sweating out a confrontation at airport security line because of it. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (NOIQH) 179
"When we were kids, we were scared of the pressure cooker."
Ditto. That little bobber fascinated the Hell outta me but my mom scared me to death telling me if I touched it would explode. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (f1PW2) 180
172 My main takeaway from this thread is that ThunderB has bangs. I like bangs.
Posted by: rickl ................ For a while there, it was just bang, it sounds like. Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (ENe42) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (f1PW2) 182
So I just saw on hotair that Palin's got an interview show on OAN (which I hadn't heard of until their pres. poll last week). She apparently had Trump, Jeb, and Cruz on last night, and I was wondering if anybody saw it and if so how it went.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (ZbV+0) 183
rickl: My main takeaway from this thread is that ThunderB has bangs. I like bangs.
Mine is that ThunderB is female! Or a guy with mascara. And bangs. Little upside-down exclamation point eyelashes... heh... memorable image. Posted by: mindful webworker - identifying as an avocado at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (lADRM) 184
Have Huskys back home but I went and bought a cheap-ass Homelite for the house. It's okay for use a few times a year but don't push it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (JKkRu) My "go to" chainsaw, for years, has been a little old Homelite miniXL, that I got for twenty bucks at a swap meet. It never fails to start, and it gets the job done just fine. Last time I did chainsaw work, I used a Homelite XL12, circa 1965, one of the first "small" homeowner-marketed saws. And it ran just fine, too. I had a Stihl, which I had bought new, and which ran fine the first season I used it for slashing, but it didn't like intermittent use around home, so I gave it away. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (aRgrb) 185
Well Let's just say my family is filled with enthusiasm about life and cooking which occasionally requires medical intervention.
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (zOTsN) 186
I just posted this on FB since I had a pretty viscous argument with some jackass on a friends FB page this AM, but it could also refer to Hector:
I am posting this, for I am noticing the inappropriate and downright stupid analogies that many on FB often make to Hitler and the Nazis to in an attempt to make a point. In particular many have been using it to compare Trump to Hitler. What ever you think of Trump, and I am and not defending or advocating for The Donald here, that is a disgusting and ignorant argument. PERIOD! Godwins Law (or Godwins Rule of Nazi Analogies)is an Internet adage asserting that As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism. Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990, Godwins Law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions.It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric. There are many corollaries to Godwins law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)than others.For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwins law. Godwins law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or ones opponent) with Nazis often referred to as playing the Hitler card. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (DUoqb) 187
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (ZbV+0
Supposedly the online site crashed because so many were trying to access it. Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:46 AM (9jeGC) 188
ThunderB - How long did it take for the eyebrow to grow back? That one would be tough to hide w/make-up...
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH) 189
All the interviews are on YouTube. Haven't watched them yet.
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:48 AM (9jeGC) 190
I think we should have a moment of silence for all those rioters in Virginia tearing up the place and burning buildings over the #WhiteLivesMatter shooting of those poor reporters. #CamerasUpDontShoot
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:48 AM (39g3+) 191
"My "go to" chainsaw, for years, has been a little old Homelite miniXL,"
I'll give the Homy this, it never fails to start and it's not hard to crank. It's one of those little 14" $100 jobs. But, does have a lot of plastic on hit. The chain tensioner is plastic although it's a great little design. I see that Craftsmen uses pretty much the same design but metal. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:49 AM (f1PW2) 192
I just posted this on FB since I had a pretty viscous argument with some jackass on a friends FB page this AM, but it could also refer to Hector: Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM Sounds like a sticky situation. Posted by: Alf at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (KrAjA) 193
Oh gawd, Billy Jeff speaking in NO tonite. I wish the Clinton's would just STFU and STFD.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (PfVjp) 194
Didn't take that long for the eyebrow to grow back. The hair just got a trim and done a different way. They eyelashes seemed to have taken the longest. I didn't lose them but trimming the balls off made them quite short and uniform. A persons eye lashes are not uniform in length
Let's just say I looked peculiar and futuristic for a while. But then this was college and booze overcomes a lot of flaws Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (zOTsN) 195
My problem with Godwin's Law is that its used to shut down discussion when something is actually and honestly like Nazi Germany. Its basically a way to make the topic go away from uncomfortable facts.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (39g3+) 196
Off, cat-munching alien sock!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 11:51 AM (KrAjA) 197
Some old guy told me to use hairspray over oily stains to prevent bleed-through when you repaint. Does anyone know if that works? Haven't had to try it yet, but it sounds logical, so I wonder if anyone else has heard of that.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (MIKMs) The old-school remedy for such things is white shellac. The stuff is thinned by alcohol, and oils don't penetrate it, not even strong solvents like gasoline. They used to use shellac-coated cork floats on automobile fuel gages for decades, until "ethanol-enhanced" (makes farting noise) fuel became commonplace. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (aRgrb) 198
Maybe mean people don't suck any more. Its been a while since I've seen the bumper sticker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (f1PW2) 200
>>My problem with Godwin's Law is that its used to shut down discussion when something is actually and honestly like Nazi Germany....
Such as: Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH) 201
I am noticing the inappropriate and downright stupid analogies that many
on FB often make to Hitler and the Nazis to in an attempt to make a point. In particular many have been using it to compare Trump to Hitler. It has been pretty telling of late how many people who give lip service to the idea of representative government are utterly horrified by the idea that the American people might finally have a representative in government that reflects their views on *something*. Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (ZbV+0) 202
What I hate is the comparison of the Jewish citizens of Germany and Austria and France etc being compared to illegal immigrants. They were full citizens, served in the militaries, paid taxes, spoke the language. Full citizens entitled to all the same rights and protections of other citizens.
This false equivalence is insulting Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (zOTsN) 203
ThunderB - How long did it take for the eyebrow to grow back? That one would be tough to hide w/make-up...
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH) Once, hung over on tequila, I shaved an eyebrow off. No, I don't remember why, but it seemed important at the time. And also, my hair was so fair, no-one noticed. And yes, I drink far less now. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (3pRHP) 204
I think we should have a moment of silence for all those rioters in
Virginia tearing up the place and burning buildings over the #WhiteLivesMatter shooting of those poor reporters. #CamerasUpDontShoot And buzzion. Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:55 AM (ZbV+0) 205
>>Oh gawd, Billy Jeff speaking in NO tonite. I wish the Clinton's would just STFU and STFD.
Bill speaking = Hillary's in trouble, so much so she's bringing in the big gun to stir up racially-tinged Bush hatred. Stray voltage x1000!!!! Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:55 AM (NOIQH) 206
Oh gawd, Billy Jeff speaking in NO tonite. I wish the Clinton's would just STFU and STFD.
I think the FBI might be reminding them of their right to remain silent before the year is out. Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:56 AM (ZbV+0) 207
I heard Buzzion's ghost was spotted in Virginia tipping a cop car over.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:56 AM (39g3+) Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (NOIQH) 209
"Once, hung over on tequila,"
Hehehe. What in the world makes one think "this one eyebrow, right here, don't need"............"? (Laughing with not at.) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (f1PW2) 210
198 Maybe mean people don't suck any more. Its been a while since I've seen the bumper sticker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+) Yes, and I guess we're not supposed to question authority any more, either. Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (sdi6R) 211
Maybe mean people don't suck any more. Its been a while since I've seen the bumper sticker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+) I always found being cut-off in traffic by some Pr*ck with a "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker to be extra speshul. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (3pRHP) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:59 AM (f1PW2) 213
I didn't like the Clinton's in the '90's. Hated them then, nothing has changed. I once read a book dad had on shillary, had to take the paper cover off to read it bc she was on the front.
I imagine TFG will be even worse. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:59 AM (PfVjp) 214
I always found being cut-off in traffic by some Pr*ck with a "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker to be extra speshul.
Maybe he felt empirical proof of his argument was necessary. I do find it interesting; we've had a few famous killing incidents lately. Two in the south, several in the north. The ones in the south produce unity, concern, and community. The ones in the north produce rioting and violence, division and anger. Kind of telling, really. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:00 PM (39g3+) 215
Buzzion is dead?
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (+1T7c) 216
I think the FBI might be reminding them of their right to remain silent before the year is out.
We can hope and pray for that. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (PfVjp) 217
Methos, here is the Palin - Trump interview
http://youtu.be/Oeju2SG7UMA A bit of mutual admiration back &forth and fun bonding over bashing the press. I think Palin also interviewed the 2 black ladies who Stump for Trump. Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (cbfNE) 218
They were full citizens, served in the militaries, paid taxes, spoke the language.
I don't think the open borders crowd understands the reason nations exist is mutual defense of the citizens. Which is to say if you think we're all 'citizens of the human race' you wouldn't see the distinction between Jewish citizens (as we understand the term) of Germany vs. the foreign invaders we deal with. Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (ZbV+0) 219
I imagine TFG will be even worse.
Posted by: Infidel Well, first he's got to get a good ghost writer. Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:02 PM (+1T7c) 220
hmmm, looks like Costco is to blame for this kitchen disaster. Look at all the Costco products on the counters .
Posted by: drunkinmesa at August 29, 2015 12:04 PM (AZE75) 221
Well, first he's got to get a good ghost writer. Posted by: Bossy Conservative Hmmm, maybe we could recruit a moron as a plant for a ghost writer. Hilarity would ensue. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:04 PM (PfVjp) 222
Really creepy side note to the Harry Nilsson tune in the sidebar. Both Mama Cass and Keith Moon died in the same London flat on Curzon Place, London that they rented from Nilsson, four years apart. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2015 12:05 PM (o98Jz) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 12:05 PM (Zu3d9) Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (ZbV+0) 225
Buzzion is dead?
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at August 29, 2015 12:01 PMHe's just pining for the fjords. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (KrAjA) 226
>>Well, first he's got to get a good ghost writer.
Oh, he's got Spielberg and other Hollywood biggies assisting him on plans for his $1 billion presidential library-and-light-show. It's going to be a splashy, multimedia hero-worshipping affair. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (NOIQH) 227
Oh, he's got Spielberg and other Hollywood biggies assisting him on plans for his $1 billion presidential library-and-light-show. It's going to be a splashy, multimedia hero-worshipping affair.
So, a Potemkin village. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (PfVjp) 228
Hmmm, maybe we could recruit a moron as a plant for a ghost writer.
Buzzion isn't doing anything anymore. Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (FcR7P) 229
I always found being cut-off in traffic by some Pr*ck with a "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker to be extra speshul. Posted by: Kindltot A musical response to your dilema. http://tinyurl.com/oeeh9or Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:10 PM (+1T7c) 230
>>So, a Potemkin village.
Heh! Might be cool if it includes dinosaurs or a shark... http://preview.tinyurl.com/qeb8j3w Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:11 PM (NOIQH) 231
Deputy Sheriff shot dead in Texas. Authorities OR the reporters fail to tell the public one important characteristic of the suspect so as to help apprehend him. (he has been arrested and they have surveillance video of the crime)
Guess what that characteristic is? It's gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for the public safety and law enforcement that they do so. You can find the story at Drudge this morning. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 29, 2015 12:12 PM (x3GpS) 232
I would offer design suggestions for the Obama library, but I figure you can all look at images of Lenin's Tomb on your own.
Rain brought down a lot of plums. I know what I am doing this morning. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 12:14 PM (3pRHP) 233
Guess what that characteristic is?
It's gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for the public safety and law enforcement that they do so. You can find the story at Drudge this morning. Posted by: Bitter Clinger Tea Party Activist? Trump Supporter? Beaver Cleaver? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK! Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (+1T7c) 234
I'm making bacon sammiches for lunch.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (rHXGG) 235
OT: Drudge has a story up on how Tropical Storm Erika is fizzling.
Should've named it Tropical Storm Hillary. Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (oKE6c) 236
Guess what that characteristic is?
Cracks me up that they haven't figured out that when they leave it out, we all know what to fill in. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:17 PM (rHXGG) 237
Guess what that characteristic is?
Folks should be on the lookout for a suspect who may or may not be wearing anything and may or may not have skin. The suspect may or may not have arms and legs, and may or may not be an adult. Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:17 PM (ZbV+0) 238
Here is Palin interviewing the Stump for Trump ladies
http://youtu.be/PMZ3PBhdpvU Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:18 PM (cbfNE) 239
>>Guess what that characteristic is?
What's sad is there were so many options to choose from (regularly omitted): *race (black) *citizenship (illegal) *religion (name that includes M------d) Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:19 PM (NOIQH) 240
Hehe Trump interview 65000 views. Jeb interview 2000.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:19 PM (ZbV+0) 241
227 Oh, he's got Spielberg and other Hollywood biggies assisting him on plans for his $1 billion presidential library-and-light-show. It's going to be a splashy, multimedia hero-worshipping affair.
So, a Potemkin village. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (PfVjp) They need to get the guy who designed the "Pirates of the Caribbean" ride at Disneyland. I can't wait for the animatronic Obongo. Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:20 PM (oKE6c) 242
OT: Drudge has a story up on how Tropical Storm Erika is fizzling. There's a Susan Lucci / Erica Kane joke in there somewhere. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:20 PM (JO9+V) 243
The search for the suspect, whom police have
described as between 20 and 25 years old and about 5-foot-10 to 6feet tall, is ongoing. He was wearing a white T-shirt and red shorts and driving a red or maroon pickup-style truck with an extended cab. Because he can't easily change his clothes, or drive a different vehicle, but he can change his race merely by clicking his heels together. So go with the immutable characteristics in the description. Btw, shouldn't that be "He/She/It?" Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:22 PM (oKE6c) 244
Guess what that characteristic is?
Cracks me up that they haven't figured out that when they leave it out, we all know what to fill in. Heh, as they dumb themselves down, we devise more covert ways to undermine them Their time will come. Hope I'm around to see it or participate. *rubs hands together* Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:23 PM (PfVjp) 245
234 I'm making bacon sammiches for lunch.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (rHXGG) --- Bacon betwixt two slices of bacon, correct? Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 12:23 PM (jR7Wy) 246
186 I just posted this on FB since I had a pretty viscous argument with some jackass on a friends FB page this AM, but it could also refer to Hector:
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (DUoqb) Yeah, unfortunately that doesn't apply just to Hector but several regulars here. Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:24 PM (zt+N6) 247
They've caught the guy at his mom's house. She claims he was with her the entire evening and . . . dindoo nuffin!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (JO9+V) 248
Houston shooting
A person was voluntarily taken in for questioning. He has not been arrested yet, nor has his name been released. Be interesting to know if he is connected to BLM in Houston, or to Quanel X Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (zOTsN) 249
His getaway truck was parked in her driveway. Someone tipped the Sheriff off as to where he might be.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (JO9+V) 250
Or to Houstons Nation of Islam Chapter or Houstons New Black Panther Party
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN) 251
Was Houston always so bad or has it gotten exponentially worse since they imported thousands from NO ten years ago?
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:28 PM (PfVjp) 252
Be interesting to know if he is connected to BLM in Houston, or to Quanel X
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (zOTsN) 250 Or to Houstons Nation of Islam Chapter or Houstons New Black Panther Party Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN) Hell can't it be all four? Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:29 PM (zt+N6) 253
Deputy Darren Goforth, 47, was a 10-year veteran of the Harris County Sheriff Department. He leaves behind a wife and 2 children.
My God have mercy on the murderer's soul, 'cause I have none. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:30 PM (JO9+V) 254
This false equivalence is insulting
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (zOTsN) On the other hand, calling the open supporters of unfettered immigration "Vichy" or "Quisling" is dead on... and actually flips the nazi label back onto the illegals. Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 12:33 PM (NaeCR) 255
I'm out of bacon. It's very sad. Very sad.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:33 PM (cbfNE) 256
Apropos of an earlier thread, FB = Fascist Book.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:35 PM (cbfNE) Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:36 PM (rHXGG) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 12:38 PM (3kBFI) 259
I knew Captain Obvious back when he was a 2nd Lieutenant.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:38 PM (39g3+) 260
@votermom: I'm out of bacon. It's very sad. Very sad.
For some reason, I just suggested bacon'n'egg sammiches to Milady, and she said, sounds great, if only we had some bacon. Commiserating sadz Posted by: mindful webworker - we can haz sausage? at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (lADRM) 261
Back from a nice little stay at DMV!
My 26 minute wait time was just a hair under 2 hours. "How long will it take to mail that to me? I have a flight coming up, and if you say Two Weeks, I'm going postal up in here..." "Um, 7 to 10 days, sir." Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (ENe42) Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (rHXGG) 263
I found this peach cobbler recipe at Old Farmers Almanac. It is really a type of clafouti. I have a similar recipe from my high school cooking class. Teacher said to remember that it didn't contain eggs, in case eggs were ever rationed again. Might as well be in California, since they are so expensive now.
Anyway, you can make it with canned peaches if you want. Don't need a pressure canner. But for true luxury, make it with fresh boysenberries and serve with homemade vanilla ice cream. http://farmersalmanac.com/food/recipes/2010/08/13/11306/ Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:41 PM (qahv/) 264
You know you're poor when you can't afford bacon.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:42 PM (39g3+) 265
P.s.: I don't think there is going to be a Gardening Thread today. Y-not seems to be on the road, still.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:42 PM (qahv/) 266
"Was Houston always so bad or has it gotten exponentially worse since they imported thousands from NO ten years ago?"
Yes Posted by: navybrat at August 29, 2015 12:43 PM (ETxiG) 267
64 Has anyone attempted to make sauerkraut at home? We're accumulating cabbages from the farm share faster than we can eat them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (7CUQa) I've made kraut many times, and if I can do it, you know it's easy. I use the recipe in the Nourishing Traditions book and I used to use a big canning jar, but now I have a fermenting crock and a jar with an airlock. Nourishing Traditions calls for using a little yogurt whey to make sure the good bugs get a foothold, but I don't know that it's necessary. This week I made kimchi in the crock, but I cheated by using Mama O kimchi paste. Posted by: stace at August 29, 2015 12:45 PM (CoX6k) 268
I made sauerkraut in a food science class once. Learned that one key to success was to weigh the cabbage so you got the correct proportion of salt to encourage salt-tolerant bacteria while discouraging other bacteria.
Rarely, botulism can form while sauerkraut is being made, so it is probably best to cook it before tasting. Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:45 PM (qahv/) 269
I just noticed eggs are really expensive again.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:47 PM (cbfNE) 270
My mom used to make a sweet and sour meatball recipe with sourkraut, it was wonderful. She made a really good salad with it too.
Then we got older, and neither one of us can eat much cabbage without intense digestive distress and I can't eat sugar so those recipes got shelved Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:48 PM (39g3+) 271
The pressure cooker release valve AND the backup release failed.
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 12:48 PM (3fTXW) Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2015 12:50 PM (6RZos) 273
I never liked the taste or smell of sauerkraut.
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:50 PM (zt+N6) 274
How about now that you're dead?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:53 PM (39g3+) 275
231 Deputy Sheriff shot dead in Texas. Authorities OR the reporters fail to tell the public one important characteristic of the suspect so as to help apprehend him. (he has been arrested and they have surveillance video of the crime)
Guess what that characteristic is? It's gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for the public safety and law enforcement that they do so. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 29, 2015 12:12 PM (x3GpS) Yet to this day, nearly every single media report I've ever heard about the Michael Brown incident includes the phrase, "A white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teen." If a race war breaks out, the media will bear a very large portion of the blame with their slanted reporting and outright lies. Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 12:53 PM (sdi6R) 276
The key to good sauerkraut is bacon. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (iQIUe) 277
I hate normal sauerkraut.
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG) 278
Nah, it's real. The main pressure regulator got blocked, and the fail safe relief didn't release in time. If it had properly functioned, It still would have been a gawdawful mess. But the lid really blew off, and the rocket pot cratered the stove.
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (3fTXW) Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 12:59 PM (MDgS8) 280
rickl:
Updated cynically Posted by: mindful webworker - #ArtificialIntelligenceMatters at August 29, 2015 12:59 PM (lADRM) 281
My favorite part is the lid stuck in the ceiling ninja style.
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 01:00 PM (MDgS8) 282
Newton's 4th Law of Canning.
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 01:01 PM (MDgS8) 283
I have a baking question:
I was boiling flour to make paste (as one does) and when I was done pasting labels I had a good tablespoon of cooked flour paste left over. I decided to dump it into the yeast starter (sponge) I had working on the counter. The bread turned out with the bubbles being finer, the web being finer, and the crumb being more elastic than usual. What is going on here? Is there an explanation? Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (3pRHP) 284
The race was has just begun. Be sure to hold you gun sideways.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (PfVjp) 285
Clearly somebody needs to rethink their methods, practices, and equipment.
Posted by: Fritz at August 29, 2015 01:03 PM (3tjn4) 286
Dad's family used to make a pretty good 'kraut.
All the Old Ones who knew the secret recipe are gone now. *sigh* Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at August 29, 2015 01:03 PM (rhjQp) 287
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:45 PM (qahv/)
Botulinum toxin is not destroyed by heating until it hits 180+ degrees for a long time. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (Zu3d9) 288
Kindlot, maybe it has to do with boiling. When I've made bread, it calls for scalded milk cooled to baby temp.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (PfVjp) 289
I hate normal sauerkraut.
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG) Aren't you in the Milwaukee area? How can you say you hate sauerkraut and still be allowed to remain there? Some things aren't against the law, and should be. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (Dj0WE) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (3kBFI) 291
Looks like they have caught the Texas shooter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (9mTYi) 292
277 I hate normal sauerkraut.
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG) The recipe I use from America's Test Kitchen for bratwurst and sauerkraut recommends adding grated apple and carrot to the kraut. I've made it several times. It works for me. Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:09 PM (3kBFI) 294
Looks like they have caught the Texas shooter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer ------------- 'Caught' may not not be exactly the word. It appears that his mother dropped a dime. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 01:09 PM (9mTYi) 295
I don't like saurkraut or coleslaw. I do like kimchi.
My hubby's family puts apples in potato salad. It's good. Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (cbfNE) 296
I do not understand this obsession we have to gourmet up everything. Sauerkraut is sauerkraut. You don't have to do anything else to it. It's already perfect.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (Dj0WE) 297
Btw, shouldn't that be "He/She/It?"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:22 PM (oKE6c) ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Make that s/he/it - pronounced shee-it Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (NaeCR) 298
Aren't you in the Milwaukee area? How can you say you hate sauerkraut and still be allowed to remain there?
I moved to Indianapolis--which also had a history of German settlement/business people, but they trashed most traces of it in 1914 and never brought it back--four years ago. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (rHXGG) 299
The recipe I use from America's Test Kitchen for bratwurst and
sauerkraut recommends adding grated apple and carrot to the kraut. I've made it several times. It works for me. That sounds like something I would try. I made a chicken soup with carrots a few weeks ago and it was very sweet--no added sugars, it was all from the carrots. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (rHXGG) 300
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The race was has just begun. Be sure to hold you gun sideways. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (PfVjp) And grab your crotch while firing. Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (HtUkt) 301
"Sauerkraut is sauerkraut. You don't have to do anything else to it. It's already perfect."
This was sorta the hot dog discussion yesterday. It is what it is. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (3kBFI) 302
Not gourmet but lots ingredients. I made Buffalo Chicken Pasta last weekend in the crock pot. Good stuff and feeds a bunch of people.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:13 PM (PfVjp) 303
I do not understand this obsession we have to
gourmet up everything. Sauerkraut is sauerkraut. You don't have to do anything else to it. It's already perfect. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (Dj0WE) Caraway seed and sausages. Mmmm. Apples are also good in moderation, the sweetness reduces the acidity. Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:15 PM (3pRHP) 304
How do you make pasta in a crockpot?
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:15 PM (cbfNE) 305
"Sauerkraut is sauerkraut. You don't have to do anything else to it. It's already perfect."
This was sorta the hot dog discussion yesterday. It is what it is. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (3kBFI) Heh, yeah I kinda made the same point in that one too. They do go together perfectly well. This is how I know satan is real... hear me out on this: You take a nice fatty sausage, grill it up, throw some kraut on top, a nice spicy mustard, a warm, firm bun... and you have nature's most perfect food. So perfect, you cannot eat just one, but since each is about 1500 calories, after a few years of eating these your arteries are so fully of sausage grease you die. If it was up to God only, this perfect combination of flavors and textures would be about 350 calories, maybe half a dozen grams of fat, and would be the cure for cancer. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:16 PM (Dj0WE) 306
295 I don't like saurkraut or coleslaw. I do like kimchi.
............................. Confession: at 48, I've still never had kimchi but have wanted to try it for years. Sounds like I'd love it. Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 01:17 PM (ENe42) 307
votermom, you boil the pasta at the end and add it. It's actually very simple. I don't think you can add raw pasta to a crockpot.
Got the recipe from the kidlet. Not sure where she got it. Want I should type it up for you? Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:18 PM (PfVjp) 308
I got a friend who takes sausage, potatoes, and, cabbage and boils it all in a pot. Delicious.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (3kBFI) 309
Gardening thread is up.
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (zt+N6) 310
Infidel, pretty please and thank you.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (cbfNE) 311
Ok, give me a minute.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:20 PM (PfVjp) 312
Congrats on the upcoming nuptials HR. And Rickl is correct. My mom tried a sauerkraut, apples and ham recipe from a newspaper that was pretty good. Called for some sugar too cuz she tried it again but with splenda and it was off. But takeaway is you can add apples to normal sauerkraut to get the effect you had in the german eatery.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 29, 2015 01:20 PM (iA/+T) 313
You take a nice fatty sausage, grill it up, throw some kraut on top, a nice spicy mustard, a warm, firm bun
I would substitute yellow mustard for the spicy. It just looks better on the front of my shirt. Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 01:21 PM (EWr9w) 314
HRTrinkin(bis), try rutabagas in the place of carrots, when they are baked or cooked hard they turn very sweet.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:23 PM (3pRHP) 315
I've never had kimchi, but I simply cannot imagine anybody not liking coleslaw.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:24 PM (sdi6R) 316
I would substitute yellow mustard for the spicy. It just looks better on the front of my shirt.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 01:21 PM (EWr9w) Hah! The florescent yellow tends to stain my fingers, so I like a slightly less conspicuous color, so it doesn't look like this is my first time eating food. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:28 PM (Dj0WE) 317
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That sounds like something I would try. I made a chicken soup with carrots a few weeks ago and it was very sweet--no added sugars, it was all from the carrots. Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (rHXGG) I also have a spaghetti sauce recipe I got from somewhere on the internet that calls for a grated carrot in lieu of sugar. It might sound weird, but it's just one carrot for a whole batch that makes about 8 servings. Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:29 PM (sdi6R) 318
Buffalo Chicken Pasta
2 (10.7oz) crème of chick soup 1 C buffalo wing sauce. I use Frank's. 1 onion, finely chopped 2 1/2 lbs chicken breasts, cut to bite size Salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste 1 1/2 (16oz) pkgs uncooked penne pasta 16 oz sour cream 1/2 cup ranch dressing (I used home made) 1 C grated mozzarella cheese Coat crock pot with cooking spray. Pour soup and wing sauce into cooker; add onion. Stir. Dust cut up chicken with spices, and add to cooker, stirring to combine. Cover and cook on high for 3 to 4 hours or until chicken is cooked thru. Turn off cooker. Cook pasta and drain. Add to chicken mixture, stir, add in sour cream, dressing and mozzarella. Let set for a few minutes before serving. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:29 PM (PfVjp) 319
Good ole redneck beer-brats on the barbie
----------------------------- Grab a deepdish foil pan-- Add bratwurst (enough to feed your crew) Smother it with shoestring-sliced onions (one small onion for every brat) Pour in a beer or two (use the crappy stuff your b.i.l. brought) Cover loosely with foil and cook over low heat (350-375 if you got some fancy grill thermometer) for about 45 min or you remember in time to not burn it. Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (rhjQp) 320
AZ DMV, painless. Renew your plates on line in less than 8 min. Receive your tabs in the mail in 2 to 3 days.. Just renewed my driver license in Show Low AZ, during lunch hour, walked in waited in line (5min) filled out renewal form got a number waited 15 min, out the door. However my first encounter when I was 18 years old with a DMV lady in upstate NY was a horror story that can only be told around a camp fire.
Posted by: Buffalbob at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (nIzfh) 321
315 I've never had kimchi, but I simply cannot imagine anybody not liking coleslaw.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:24 PM (sdi6R) I used to hate cole slaw, but started making slaw and kraut when my brother was farming and would bring cabbages to hand out at family gatherings. Thanks, bro! Now I prefer it to a lettuce salad because it's more nutritious than lettuce and cabbage keeps much longer than salad greens. There are several ways to go with it--vinegary/sweet, mayonaisy, Asian, or weird versions like tequila/lime. The mayo version was the one I used to be scared of. Posted by: stace at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (CoX6k) 322
Thanks Infidel!
Copying and saving. Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:34 PM (cbfNE) 323
votermom, there is a "new twist" blurb on the recipe.
Leave out the sour cream, dressing and cheese. Put chicken mixture in a tortilla and then add sour cream, dressing and cheese for a wrap. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:36 PM (PfVjp) 324
You are very welcome.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:37 PM (PfVjp) 325
Copied into my never-ending food blog recipe collection. Thanks!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 01:37 PM (jR7Wy) 326
Stolen umm copied.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at August 29, 2015 01:39 PM (gCeSe) 327
Infidel, actually I also posted it to my home blog's Cooking page, I hope that's ok:
https://crayfisher.wordpress.com/cooking-club/#comment-264482 Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:45 PM (cbfNE) 328
I am pleased you think it worthy. It was good for last weekend bc I was taking care of BFF with a new knee replacement and was so busy doing other stuff. Makes for a good lunch to zap in the microwave at work too.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:11 PM (PfVjp) 329
All Hail Eris, heh, me too. Gonna try to make my own mozzarella this week.
A link I got here, of course. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (PfVjp) 330
231 Deputy Sheriff shot dead in Texas. Authorities OR the reporters fail to tell the public one important characteristic of the suspect so as to help apprehend him. Our radio station called him "dark-complected." Posted by: Teri at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (Wk1K/) 331
329 All Hail Eris, heh, me too. Gonna try to make my own mozzarella this week.
A link I got here, of course. Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (PfVjp) --- Step 1: Catch and milk one buffalo... Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 02:23 PM (jR7Wy) 332
Thank Goodness the the COFFEE MAKER is OK!
Posted by: HobbieHawk at August 29, 2015 02:36 PM (AQ3lr) 333
No doubt that the "excellent extension agent " is one Hank Kimball, from good old Hooterville, USA!
Posted by: O.W. Douglas at August 29, 2015 02:51 PM (vL/IL) 334
Some old guy told me to use hairspray over oily stains to prevent bleed-through when you repaint.
Don't know about repainting, but I use hairspray to put handgrips on my motorcycles. Lets them slide on, then dries to keep them stuck in place, and isn't too hard to peel them free when it's time to remove them. Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 03:22 PM (2GbWn) 335
When I was a kid, our neighbor had a canning accident. Her pressure cooker blew up while she was in the kitchen. She was lucky to live. She was scalded severely with the steam and grease that was in the cooker.
It seems to me that any consumer grade cooker is a danger. I hate government regulations, but in this case they are needed. Posted by: Bob at August 29, 2015 04:14 PM (XESH2) 336
Good point on the sufficient cooking time to denature botulinum toxin, CBD. The spores are not dangerous for most adults to ingest, but they are much more heat-resistant, which is why you have to pressure-can low acid foods.
For denaturing the toxin (not killing the organism) I see figures of 176 degrees for 20 minutes or greater than 185 degrees for at least 5 minutes. Time varies with pH. Boiling for a few minutes is recommended. Don't taste the food first. http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/botulism.pdf Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 05:49 PM (qahv/) Processing 0.06, elapsed 0.0656 seconds. |
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