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Special Food Thread: Canning Edition [CBD]
An excellent extension agent just shared this canning pic with me #canningdangerously pic.twitter.com/1jUaZ7C1wR
— Ben Chapman (@benjaminchapman) August 28, 2015H/T NDH (you should follow her on the tweet thing: @mflynny) And of course Open Thread, because you maniacs do it anyway.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: EC at August 29, 2015 09:59 AM (j8YpL)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 10:00 AM (rwI+c)
Whateverth. I'm hungry.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in deepest shame at August 29, 2015 10:02 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: mindful webworker - freeze-dried at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:06 AM (JKkRu)
Posted by: Charol Canning at August 29, 2015 10:07 AM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 29, 2015 10:07 AM (hCdMd)
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:08 AM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (DUoqb)
"First" things first.
Morning Horde. Ye gods and garter snakes, that picture's a true example of Epic Fail.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (m9V0o)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (KrAjA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Kroger at August 29, 2015 10:11 AM (gwG9s)
That sounds like the voice of sad experience.
Posted by: mindful webworker - fresh & raw at August 29, 2015 10:11 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: Charol Canning at August 29, 2015 10:15 AM (P6Jv8)
Know why I buy mason jars?
Because I can!
HAHAHAHAHA oh man,I kill.
Posted by: S2 at August 29, 2015 10:15 AM (NP4tM)
Still, there's supposed to be redundant over-pressure safety mechanisms on those things, I wonder how they all failed. RTFM.
Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (2GbWn)
Jigger types use a weighted piece of metal that lets off steam intermittently-makes a lot of noise but won't explode.
Manual pressure regulator types have a pressure gauge with a valve you have to WATCH and adjust as heat increase to allow correct depressurization- they are more quiet and steady in their depressurization (they don't jigger), but if left unattended with incorrect valve release setting will explode.
I've used both.
I like hearing and knowing the pressure is being released, even though the jiggering of steam passage gets annoying. Better than a blowed up kitchen.
I will only use the manually depressurized (unsafe) cookers outside and have to watch them closely, which is boring and counterproductive.
Choose your canners accordingly.
I'm sure there are other factors in choosing a canner, probably even digital pressure controls, but canning is old-school so I stick with the jigger style.
Posted by: Orange Mule at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (i7m/g)
Oh man....I lust after a chain saw. My little town has lots of big, old trees, and after significant storms we are usually left with downed trees all over the place.
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)
The paint looks ok at first, but after a few years a kind of pinkish tone comes thru...in spots.
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:17 AM (HtUkt)
Don't drink (to excess) and dangerous cook kiddies.
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (t7JTb)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)
I think you should buy a chain saw also, that way, whenever I need one, I know who to call.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Nancy-boy Graham at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (P6Jv8)
That's the kind my mom had. Noisy thing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:19 AM (JKkRu)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Dzhokar Tsarnaev at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (P6Jv8)
OT, but y'know what would be cool? And a moneymaker for the states?
DMV should have a Bloody Mary vending machine in every branch.
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 10:21 AM (ENe42)
Posted by: Brian Williams the Truth Teller at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)
Absolutely! Chainsaw work isn't work at all. I love cutting shit down. Pro-tips: be super careful "bucking" or cutting wood when it's on the ground. keep the tip out of the dirt and rocks. Also, make sure your pre-mix is accurate.
I have a friend who was brought up in the country. She said: "It wasn't a party until the chainsaws and fireworks came out."
Posted by: Nancy-boy Graham at August 29, 2015 10:23 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:24 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (5buP8)
WHO YOU CALLIN JIGGER? I MAKE NOISE AND ASPLODE IF I WANT TO.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (P6Jv8)
I agree that the manual ones are boring AND scary, but since we are in the kitchen, anyway, it is not a big deal.
I really like brown rice cooked in the smaller, "jigger-style" one.
Posted by: LochLomondFarms at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (hEDF1)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:25 AM (DUoqb)
Yes. Buy a lager (ish) one, then scale down the bar and chain. Stihl or husqvarna, just don't try and spell them, are great. In the past year I've cut easily 1000 trees with my husqvarna, I got the model with 20 inch bar, but use 16 inch on it.
Don't buy cheap chainsaw, you will be frustrated. They have half the number of teeth as a good one. No idea why.
And to stay on topic, you can use the wood to cook.
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:26 AM (t7JTb)
I used to live in the Santa Cruz mountains and one time a freak storm dropped two feet of snow, something that probably only happens once a century. Trees came down all over and blocked roads, knocked out power and phone, etc. You could hear the chainsaws running for weeks all through the mountains and valleys. Free firewood! Of course, that was back when the gov'ment wouldn't try to throw you in jail for burning it. So now nobody has a chainsaw or bothers to clear the deadwood.
Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 10:26 AM (2GbWn)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 29, 2015 10:27 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:28 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (t7JTb)
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I remember a news story about a deep fryer set up on a cement patio. Unfortunately, their son who was riding on his bike in circles around the fryer fell and knocked it over. He did not survive the burns.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:29 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:29 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Danny Vermin at August 29, 2015 10:30 AM (QoA8Q)
Have Huskys back home but I went and bought a cheap-ass Homelite for the house. It's okay for use a few times a year but don't push it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (JKkRu)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (pgzyN)
My mom even pickled green cherry tomatoes one year, they were great on salads or as a side dish with a sandwich.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (3fTXW)
It'll stop the bean-oil from burning through the paint.
Then you can paint over the Kilz, with whatever type n' color of paint you might prefer. And the bean stains won't show, ever.
And if, way back in time, you might've painted over said stains without the Kilz, and now the oils are burning through the paint?
The Kils will still work, but now you get the pleasure of doing a whole new paint job.
But hey, it's the weekend, right?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 10:32 AM (McRlu)
Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 10:33 AM (1brdf)
Hey CBD, I got this long list of things I need or lust for in my house.
I'm gonna send you my list in case you have a hankering to buy any of
them?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:28 AM (DUoqb)
Great idea....you could help him select the makes/models.
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (HtUkt)
My two just started (well, one's a 2nd year).
Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 10:33 AM (1brdf)
Thanks. I am lucky. They are good kids.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Citizen Can at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (P6Jv8)
But here's the original thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3i9nl0/why_im_not_allowed_to_cook_dinner_anymore/
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (3fTXW)
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:34 AM (7CUQa)
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:35 AM (t7JTb)
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:36 AM (7CUQa)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2015 10:37 AM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:37 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:38 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jorge Washington at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (7CUQa)
Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (DL2i+)
Live in a cold climate? Have a fireplace? Winter is coming and buying wood is getting expensive. As a matter of fact investing in a chainsaw might mean you could make some cash cutting wood for others.
Posted by: Tuna at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (JSovD)
I like the pot lid imbedded in the ceiling.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:40 AM (iQIUe)
Every modern one I've seen has a rubber blowout plug that Wont hold a splosions worth of pressure.
Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (DL2i+)
https://youtu.be/Qa4CxkIYsbA
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Agitator at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (mRfGa)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 10:38 AM (39g3+)
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Forging, fortifying, fletching, and makin' hobo jerkey.
And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM (jR7Wy)
Man...that would've been so helpful...about 30 years ago.
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 10:43 AM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:43 AM (vM+YG)
We closed on our house a year ago today, there is a propane fueled set of gas logs. I assumed the fireplace was one of the gas log fireplaces and not a real one. Until I looked at it. Actual real fireplace, with a blower. Out comes the gas logs and this winter I'm burning man.
Posted by: traye at August 29, 2015 10:44 AM (t7JTb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:44 AM (vM+YG)
You can see it in the pic. The valve is in the center of the lid and that black spot below it is the plug. Somebody kept that from blowing out before the clamps failed.
Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:45 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 10:45 AM (PMlgt)
Same as do not buy a cheap gun.
Specific tool with specific purpose.
And, a failure can kill you or someone else.
I have a Husqvarna Rancher 55 with 18" bar and three hardwood chains. I hate stopping to sharpen chains, so I just go through those three and call it a day. I get about an hour of good cutting from each sharpened chain.
I bought the Stihl extendable pole saw last year for safety reasons and to get a longer reach up into living trees.
Glorious, it is.
Posted by: Orange Mule at August 29, 2015 10:46 AM (i7m/g)
It makes perfect sense that I should buy a chain saw....right?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)
Get a sthil or husqverna
Don't worry about cutting for others cut for yourself.
Firewood warms you approximately 6 times.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (vM+YG)
At least, that's what a friend told me.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (7CUQa)
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)
Buy a Stihl. Get a pro-sized model if you must. Poulans are ok, and Echos are ok, but the Stihl is like a Mercedes.
Buying a "backyard" sized saw is like kneading bread with a Sunbeam mixer. Nothing good comes of it.
Also, make sure your saws all use the same oil:gas ratio, same size chain, buy chaps, get a safety class, and wear hearing protection or you will have tinnitus like me.
And buy non-ethanol gas always.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 10:47 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (MIKMs)
Better a sapper, than a sap, eh?
/aims trebuchet
Choose your response carefully.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (m9V0o)
I've been canning for years and never had a mishap. Use good equipment and be smart.
Posted by: David at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (TeSnk)
Tape all your knives to a moped wheel. If you can walk to the end of the driveway without cutting anything you MAY be careful enough for a chainsaw.
Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 10:49 AM (DL2i+)
Yeah, here's a food thought. (Long one, sorry.)
My grandmother, to my uncle's new bride: Never can anything that you can just buy off the shelf. Gramma spoke from experience, after decades of raising and canning their garden produce.
There's a big trade-off in that idea, it's true, but oh, that Economy of Scale! That same EoS is what makes store-bought bread instead of home-made so popular and fast food instead of home-cooking so successful, right?
Milady and I were practically founding subscribers to Mother Earth News life. We were all about fresh home cooking and gardening and canning and making bread and our own yogurt and...
Actually, when we started out, you could barely find good, plain yogurt or decent whole bread even at the "health food store" (with the nice white-haired old lady that smelled like B vitamins - the store, not the lady). By gramma's rule, we really couldn't find what we wanted on the shelf back then. Anyway, Milady is a master in the kitchen, and you cannot find anything equivalent to her baked goods or pizza sauce, or anything else, even today.
When we had the kids at home, to some degree, baking fresh bread was more sensible. It was even part of the Home Schooling. Now, with kids gone and just the old grumps at home, well, they deliver pizza, right?
(Thinking back, when the kids were young, we still lived in Chicago, and the EoS meant ordering in or dining out was easier. We went out for food we couldn't easily make at home. Gyros, tzatziki, baklava! But, three kids, mostly meals at home.)
Anyway, even before kids (last millennium), young couple us almost immediately experienced that EoS meant one thing: is this the best use of your time? What else would you do with the time you'd spend kneading or weeding every week? (Or canning.)
Having been infected with entrepreneurialism, what we'd really like to do is be on the other side of the equation. We've run food service now and then, but mom'n'pop style restaurant or small sprouts business is not much above home cooking on the EoS. Better to have our own brand, restaurants and store goods, with Milady's recipes! Then we'd be able to go to the store and buy it off the shelf. And she could experiment with new ideas at home, which is the best, and the successful experiments added to the menu and product line.
We haven't realized that idea, and may not, but I've thought more and more like that since we first baked bread together. So to speak. The Market for what we like is much greater today than ever, too.
Meanwhile, I'm glad that the Market means we've got fresh healthy eggs via a local chicken rancher, plenty of good "health foods" in the regular grocery stores, and of course the finest locally-grown grass-fed black angus in various delicious forms. And pizza delivered. Those ranchers and farmers and the pimply delivery kid with the battered vehicle, all save us the time and effort, and make buying more economical than doing every little thing ourselves. Which works for me, as we get older and as time gets tighter. And seems to work very well for everyone.
Until the Obamanation venezuelas our food supply....
Posted by: mindful webworker - the woild is my oisteah at August 29, 2015 10:49 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb
Look into a pick up truck as well
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015
My daughter found an easy recipie on line. I would go that route.
My mom made at home when I was a kid using crocks. Sorry I don't have a recipie.
Lots of cabbage, tried some fried with carrots and onions.
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You try it yet CBD?,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (vM+YG)
We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Posted by: The Memory Hole at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (5buP8)
So, remember, every kitchen needs a fire extinguisher.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (QoA8Q)
Posted by: Arkindole at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (s+u4I)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:18 AM (DUoqb
Look into a pick up truck as well
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:50 AM (9jeGC)
Chainsaw, wood splitter, truck and trailer. Couple of gas cans, some gloves, sharpeners, wrenches. You are good to go.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (vM+YG)
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Nope. The lid was on quite well. It didn't just blow upwards, it blew out the entire top of the stove and the oven.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 10:53 AM (PMlgt)
There is a lot of evidence for this out there on the nets, but I just don't have time right now to look it all up for you. Wake Up Sheeple.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 29, 2015 10:53 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: goon at August 29, 2015 10:57 AM (gy5kE)
And don't be a sap -- learn siege techniques.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 10:42 AM
Rule #1: If the enemy has a big, strong fortress, see to it that he stays in there.
Posted by: Shih Tzu at August 29, 2015 10:58 AM (KrAjA)
Modern pressure canners have a pressure interlock that keep you from taking the lid off under pressure. There are ways to defeat that, but it requires a level of sophistication akin to fishing for your own kidney.
That pic is an older pressure-canner, without a pressure gauge, and probably used a dial or pop-up type weight to monitor pressure... though it is normal in those to only have the jiggler weight on top of the stem.
From the lid stuck in the ceiling, that model (and this is why I am a geek) looks like a 70's Mirro.
Since the lid looks fairly ok and the pot looks fairly straight, I suspect the cook was pre-heating the water to do canning or cooking ( I am guessing cooking a stew from the stuff on the counter and lack of jars) and was using an old worn-in pot that had the seal that was a bit old, and forgot to release pressure before twisting the lid off.
Internal pressure did the rest.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 10:58 AM (3pRHP)
Chainsaw, wood splitter, truck and trailer. Couple of gas cans, some gloves, sharpeners, wrenches. You are good to go.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 10:51 AM (vM+YG)
Buddy has all that but forgot them last weekend so I had to take down two trees with a damn hatchet. (Not gonna lie, it was exhausting but it was fun just whacking the hell out of them and then seeing where they'd fall.)
Clearing firing lines for his tree stand.
Bonus- jumping the creek I went shin deep in mud. Which saved me from the chiggers which he picked up. Woo hop.
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 10:59 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: The Rich are Different at August 29, 2015 11:00 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: oldgeezer at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (+uiwA)
Get a chimney sweep in to make sure its unclogged and ready for use. Its not too expensive and definitely cheaper than a chimney fire because some bird built a nest one time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (39g3+)
When we were kids, we were scared of the pressure cooker. I liked when the doohickey was removed and the resulting noise and steam. I think it was the heaviness of the pot and lid which made my 5 y/o self nervous.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 11:01 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:02 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Strictly from apathy at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM (8n+U+)
Hah.....
But I think I will get the chain saw!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: PabloD at August 29, 2015 11:05 AM (3RNW8)
LMAO.
We can't handle the truth eh?
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:06 AM (9jeGC)
My grandmother used to use her stove as occasional storage. She once had a can of pork'n'beans that was in the oven explode while she was pre-heating it for biscuits, and my poor uncle Hank was covered with hot beany magma. Heat and pressure. They are dangerous.
Posted by: Strictly from apathy at August 29, 2015 11:03 AM P.J. O'Rourke called that recipe Soup Nagasaki. Put can of soup in oven. Heat to 500 degrees. Get the hell out of the kitchen.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 11:06 AM (KrAjA)
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:07 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:07 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 11:08 AM (oZr5y)
****
heh
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 11:08 AM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 11:09 AM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Baldy at August 29, 2015 11:10 AM (sEXjW)
I do all my canning via water bath. It helps that there is a family about a mile away that grow acres of fruits and veggies and sell them in a little market on their property.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (PfVjp)
https://youtu.be/Qa4CxkIYsbA
I remember driving through a small town in upstate New York while in college and it was the sauerkraut factory you could smell for miles. (Silver Floss I think) long gone now, I think they moved to Mexico or someplace a few years ago.
Posted by: Colin at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (yXxFf)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Alf at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (KrAjA)
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Schrodinger said it might be funny, but then again, it might not.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (oZr5y)
So, are you just going to make that unsubstantiated claim, or do you have specific examples, you pressure cooker troofer?
Posted by: mindful webworker - eat yer peas at August 29, 2015 11:11 AM (lADRM)
YES - Margaritas, too.
Just received my new license in the mail from the DMV and I look so pissed, photo taken after over an hour of waiting, and after messing up my license info twice - getting my address wrong (which is why I was there) and twice marking me as an organ donor against my will (unsettling).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:14 AM (39g3+)
I couldn't keep the pressure down to 10lbs so the tomatoes overcooked, separated out and boiled out under the lids so I wound up with about 1/3 failure and the rest looked like clotted blood and serum.
So I made tomato juice. 100% sealing. Yeah!
I also discovered this year that I have been canning peaches wrong. In the past the peaches start to slump and turn icky in the jars. Not spoiling, but looking hideous.
I was only hot water bath canning them for 10 minutes, and I am told that was not long enough to deactivate the enzymes.
I will see how this turns out.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:14 AM (3pRHP)
Smelled of burnt hair, wasn't hurt. But the air on the left eyebrow burnt off ( it grew back), half my bangs were gone. And my eyelashes burned in such a way that they had little balls on the end so they looked like upside down exclamation points. Must've been the mascara
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:15 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (PfVjp)
Nope, I can w/out being much of a gardener.
The problem I run into is Too Much for my little family. One year I was giving everyone a pint of peach butter for Christmas.
Fortunately there are all sorts of small batch recipes out there - this is my favorite site:
http://foodinjars.com/
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:18 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:18 AM (vM+YG)
When he was a little kid they would use him to tamp down the shredded cabbage. They would sift in a layer of shredded cabbage and salt, and then lift him in to stomp it down in his bare feet.
He said that he remembered one of his relatives saying, part way through, "has that child washed his feet?"
I have made it in 5 gallon buckets with weights made out of ziplock bags filled with water. I was not careful enough and got a bacterial contamination and it went all mushy.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:19 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (zOTsN)
Regarding Brewer's sidebar post about heroin, I've been asking the same thing for years. As far as I know, it's not painful and the governments must have plenty of stuff as evidence after the trial ends, so why not?
Posted by: Social Justice WARRIOR! at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (C9lNt)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:19 AM (3pRHP)
There are so many good kraits here (WI) I see no need to make your own
Canned peaches, now that's different
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:20 AM (zOTsN)
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Sounds like most Nu Wave frontmen.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (iQIUe)
So don't be a sap, be a sapper?
(I had to trim the balls off)
All the men just crossed their legs and grimaced.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (39g3+)
have much success. Mine is over 20 years old. I love it. I always
have to adjust times on cooking at high altitude.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:17 AM (PfVjp)
No, I have one. I just seem to be convinced I remember things at times.
I am very obsessive about pressure canning non-acid foods though, since botulism is no-ones' friend.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (3pRHP)
See ya morons
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG)
Posted by: willow at August 29, 2015 11:23 AM (nqBYe)
Hubby uses them to make flan once in a while.
He only cooks when there's danger involved.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:23 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (zOTsN)
Canned peaches, now that's different
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 29, 2015 11:22 AM (vM+YG)
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It only takes 10% bad Krauts to cause trouble.
*waits for the banhammer*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:24 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy
......................
There is a neat little feature on the DMV map that shows live wait times at every branch around me. "22 mins wait" etc.
I checked my local when I left the house, 26 mins. Up to 29 when I got here.
Walking in, I asked a lady walking out "how long is the wait today?"
Her: "Not too bad. A little over an hour."
I've been here an hour and twenty already...
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:25 AM (ENe42)
hair caught on fire i am slapping the crap out of the head until i finish with ice water.
we all laughed and laughed.
not
Posted by: willow at August 29, 2015 11:26 AM (nqBYe)
Also, this year I made my first successful batch of blackberry jam in a long time.
I bought a deep stock pot to do jam in last winter, and it has done me wonders since I don't have to nurse my boiling jam to keep it on a quick boil but not boiling over.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:27 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:27 AM (sdi6R)
So you can do other stuff. You don't have to wait there. It's genius
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:28 AM (zOTsN)
_______________
And when will we have the national conversation about banning heroin?
Posted by: Kenway at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (JYlmW)
No, actually its that they can tell I won't need an interpreter because I speak the local language, and the stuff I need to do is easy and quick while usually they have to go through a lot of trouble and only a few people can help them. So bing, I get to cut in line and go right in without much of a wait if any.
In Oregon, you have to show two pieces of proof of residence to get a license, including proof of citizenship. I had to show a birth certificate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lizzy
They don't give it to you before you leave? Weird.
One single thing huckabee did ok in arkansas was to streamline dvm services. It's generally pretty simple to go in.
Posted by: Lea at August 29, 2015 11:29 AM (vmMMi)
My friend grabbed a tomato and squished it over the burn. Said that was sure to heal it.
It did cool it down. I have a scar around an inch in diameter as a reminder to this day.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (Zu3d9)
Interesting times.
Posted by: Drider at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (6Xbsz)
One day...
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:30 AM (ENe42)
You have to wait for your license in this digital camera & computer age
Posted by: Cicero Skip at August 29, 2015 11:31 AM (FIrEF)
And for a first license you have to bring a bajillion proofs of ID and residence. Same in NJ. Of course a lot of the 911 hijackers got their fake ID in NJ, so they cracked down
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:31 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Caitlyn The Bruce at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: no good deed at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 10:10 AM (DUoqb)
If they had just executed the traitors, the Egyptians wouldn't have to put up with that BS. And two 9mm bullets probably cost less than a day's worth of food for the scum, even crappy gyppo prison rations.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (aRgrb)
There are two DMV locations about equidistant from me. One is closer to the city and the other is more rural. I always go to the rural one.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Lola Heatherington, Bounching Back to You at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (VBbCO)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:33 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 29, 2015 11:34 AM (Vyg9x)
Posted by: no good deed at August 29, 2015 11:32 AM (GgxVX)
I low fig preserves! It's actually fig season now, maybe I should make some. I haven't canned anything this year..
Posted by: Lea at August 29, 2015 11:35 AM (vmMMi)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
..........................
I had to show BC, SS card and proof of residense just to get a ticket & number.
I showed her a letter addressed to me at home from DMV. "Oh, it can't come from us - we don't know your address."
Seriously.
"I need a water bill or something like that"
Luckily, I brought my latest city home assessment statement, just in case, because I know that they are retards.
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (ENe42)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:36 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:37 AM (sdi6R)
Supposed to be a colder winter this year, I hope that translates into plenty rain and not just cold and ice.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:39 AM (39g3+)
--
Y'know, that long comment of mine didn't look that long in notepad, but looks like a comment bomb here. Gurk.
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Milady got her license renewed earlier this month. Went to the new agency location, which is closer and more convenient, and was in and out in about five minutes.
Gotta go in myself on Monday, when I'll have my own report.
But, basically, here in civilization, the DMZ and even the Post Office are as a rule staffed with friendly people who do their job efficiently and with a smile. (Some of the customers in line at the post office can be troubling, like one loon recently who had some kind of petty stamp problem, but the staff were friendly and patient to a fault even with him.) I've read it's not this way out in the wilderlands?
Posted by: mindful webworker - civilization beats the alternative at August 29, 2015 11:39 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 11:41 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:41 AM (39g3+)
Daughter bought me one from home depot this spring. Mine is doing better than hers. A bottle of aloe jell is great for a sun burn too.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (PfVjp)
Yeah, and they don't tell you about that up front. When I went in and stopped by the information desk I told the woman I needed to update the address on my license because I would be flying soon - and she never bothered to clarify if I might be travelling in the next 2 weeks (that's how long it took to get). So after all the hassle I leave the DMV w/a *voided* picture ID and a paper printout temp license. Luckily the TSA didn't give it a second look - but I was sweating out a confrontation at airport security line because of it.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (NOIQH)
Ditto. That little bobber fascinated the Hell outta me but my mom scared me to death telling me if I touched it would explode.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:42 AM (f1PW2)
Posted by: rickl
................
For a while there, it was just bang, it sounds like.
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (ENe42)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (f1PW2)
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:43 AM (ZbV+0)
Mine is that ThunderB is female! Or a guy with mascara. And bangs.
Little upside-down exclamation point eyelashes... heh... memorable image.
Posted by: mindful webworker - identifying as an avocado at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (lADRM)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 10:31 AM (JKkRu)
My "go to" chainsaw, for years, has been a little old Homelite miniXL, that I got for twenty bucks at a swap meet. It never fails to start, and it gets the job done just fine.
Last time I did chainsaw work, I used a Homelite XL12, circa 1965, one of the first "small" homeowner-marketed saws. And it ran just fine, too.
I had a Stihl, which I had bought new, and which ran fine the first season I used it for slashing, but it didn't like intermittent use around home, so I gave it away.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (aRgrb)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (zOTsN)
I am posting this, for I am noticing the inappropriate and downright stupid analogies that many on FB often make to Hitler and the Nazis to in an attempt to make a point. In particular many have been using it to compare Trump to Hitler. What ever you think of Trump, and I am and not defending or advocating for The Donald here, that is a disgusting and ignorant argument. PERIOD!
Godwins Law (or Godwins Rule of Nazi Analogies)is an Internet adage asserting that As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990, Godwins Law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions.It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric.
There are many corollaries to Godwins law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)than others.For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwins law.
Godwins law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or ones opponent) with Nazis often referred to as playing the Hitler card.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (DUoqb)
Supposedly the online site crashed because so many were trying to access it.
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:46 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at August 29, 2015 11:48 AM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:48 AM (39g3+)
I'll give the Homy this, it never fails to start and it's not hard to crank. It's one of those little 14" $100 jobs. But, does have a lot of plastic on hit. The chain tensioner is plastic although it's a great little design.
I see that Craftsmen uses pretty much the same design but metal.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:49 AM (f1PW2)
I just posted this on FB since I had a pretty viscous argument with some jackass on a friends FB page this AM, but it could also refer to Hector:
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM
Sounds like a sticky situation.
Posted by: Alf at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (KrAjA)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (PfVjp)
Let's just say I looked peculiar and futuristic for a while. But then this was college and booze overcomes a lot of flaws
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:50 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 11:51 AM (KrAjA)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2015 10:48 AM (MIKMs)
The old-school remedy for such things is white shellac. The stuff is thinned by alcohol, and oils don't penetrate it, not even strong solvents like gasoline. They used to use shellac-coated cork floats on automobile fuel gages for decades, until "ethanol-enhanced" (makes farting noise) fuel became commonplace.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (aRgrb)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (f1PW2)
Such as: Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH)
on FB often make to Hitler and the Nazis to in an attempt to make a
point. In particular many have been using it to compare Trump to Hitler.
It has been pretty telling of late how many people who give lip service to the idea of representative government are utterly horrified by the idea that the American people might finally have a representative in government that reflects their views on *something*.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:53 AM (ZbV+0)
This false equivalence is insulting
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH)
Once, hung over on tequila, I shaved an eyebrow off.
No, I don't remember why, but it seemed important at the time.
And also, my hair was so fair, no-one noticed.
And yes, I drink far less now.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (3pRHP)
Virginia tearing up the place and burning buildings over the
#WhiteLivesMatter shooting of those poor reporters. #CamerasUpDontShoot
And buzzion.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:55 AM (ZbV+0)
Bill speaking = Hillary's in trouble, so much so she's bringing in the big gun to stir up racially-tinged Bush hatred.
Stray voltage x1000!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:55 AM (NOIQH)
I think the FBI might be reminding them of their right to remain silent before the year is out.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 11:56 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:56 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (NOIQH)
Hehehe.
What in the world makes one think "this one eyebrow, right here, don't need"............"?
(Laughing with not at.)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (f1PW2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+)
Yes, and I guess we're not supposed to question authority any more, either.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+)
I always found being cut-off in traffic by some Pr*ck with a "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker to be extra speshul.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 11:57 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 11:59 AM (f1PW2)
I imagine TFG will be even worse.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 11:59 AM (PfVjp)
Maybe he felt empirical proof of his argument was necessary.
I do find it interesting; we've had a few famous killing incidents lately. Two in the south, several in the north. The ones in the south produce unity, concern, and community. The ones in the north produce rioting and violence, division and anger.
Kind of telling, really.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:00 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (+1T7c)
We can hope and pray for that.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (PfVjp)
http://youtu.be/Oeju2SG7UMA
A bit of mutual admiration back &forth and fun bonding over bashing the press.
I think Palin also interviewed the 2 black ladies who Stump for Trump.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (cbfNE)
I don't think the open borders crowd understands the reason nations exist is mutual defense of the citizens. Which is to say if you think we're all 'citizens of the human race' you wouldn't see the distinction between Jewish citizens (as we understand the term) of Germany vs. the foreign invaders we deal with.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:01 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Infidel
Well, first he's got to get a good ghost writer.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:02 PM (+1T7c)
.Posted by: drunkinmesa at August 29, 2015 12:04 PM (AZE75)
Well, first he's got to get a good ghost writer.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
Hmmm, maybe we could recruit a moron as a plant for a ghost writer. Hilarity would ensue.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:04 PM (PfVjp)
Really creepy side note to the Harry Nilsson tune in the sidebar. Both Mama Cass and Keith Moon died in the same London flat on Curzon Place, London that they rented from Nilsson, four years apart.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2015 12:05 PM (o98Jz)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 12:05 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at August 29, 2015 12:01 PMHe's just pining for the fjords.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (KrAjA)
Oh, he's got Spielberg and other Hollywood biggies assisting him on plans for his $1 billion presidential library-and-light-show. It's going to be a splashy, multimedia hero-worshipping affair.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:06 PM (NOIQH)
So, a Potemkin village.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (PfVjp)
Buzzion isn't doing anything anymore.
Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (FcR7P)
I always found being cut-off in traffic by some Pr*ck with a "Mean People Suck" bumpersticker to be extra speshul.
Posted by: Kindltot
A musical response to your dilema.
http://tinyurl.com/oeeh9or
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:10 PM (+1T7c)
Heh! Might be cool if it includes dinosaurs or a shark...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/qeb8j3w
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:11 PM (NOIQH)
Guess what that characteristic is?
It's gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for the public safety and law enforcement that they do so.
You can find the story at Drudge this morning.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 29, 2015 12:12 PM (x3GpS)
Rain brought down a lot of plums. I know what I am doing this morning.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 12:14 PM (3pRHP)
It's
gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for
the public safety and law enforcement that they do so.
You can find the story at Drudge this morning.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
Tea Party Activist?
Trump Supporter?
Beaver Cleaver?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (rHXGG)
Should've named it Tropical Storm Hillary.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (oKE6c)
Cracks me up that they haven't figured out that when they leave it out, we all know what to fill in.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:17 PM (rHXGG)
Folks should be on the lookout for a suspect who may or may not be wearing anything and may or may not have skin. The suspect may or may not have arms and legs, and may or may not be an adult.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:17 PM (ZbV+0)
http://youtu.be/PMZ3PBhdpvU
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:18 PM (cbfNE)
What's sad is there were so many options to choose from (regularly omitted):
*race (black)
*citizenship (illegal)
*religion (name that includes M------d)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 12:19 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2015 12:19 PM (ZbV+0)
So, a Potemkin village.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:08 PM (PfVjp)
They need to get the guy who designed the "Pirates of the Caribbean" ride at Disneyland. I can't wait for the animatronic Obongo.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:20 PM (oKE6c)
OT: Drudge has a story up on how Tropical Storm Erika is fizzling.
There's a Susan Lucci / Erica Kane joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:20 PM (JO9+V)
described as between 20 and 25 years old and about 5-foot-10 to 6feet
tall, is ongoing. He was wearing a white T-shirt and red shorts and
driving a red or maroon pickup-style truck with an extended cab.
Because he can't easily change his clothes, or drive a different vehicle, but he can change his race merely by clicking his heels together. So go with the immutable characteristics in the description.
Btw, shouldn't that be "He/She/It?"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:22 PM (oKE6c)
Cracks me up that they haven't figured out that when they leave it out, we all know what to fill in.
Heh, as they dumb themselves down, we devise more covert ways to undermine them Their time will come. Hope I'm around to see it or participate.
*rubs hands together*
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:23 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:16 PM (rHXGG)
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Bacon betwixt two slices of bacon, correct?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 12:23 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 11:45 AM (DUoqb)
Yeah, unfortunately that doesn't apply just to Hector but several regulars here.
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:24 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (JO9+V)
A person was voluntarily taken in for questioning. He has not been arrested yet, nor has his name been released.
Be interesting to know if he is connected to BLM in Houston, or to Quanel X
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 12:28 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:25 PM (zOTsN)
250 Or to Houstons Nation of Islam Chapter or Houstons New Black Panther Party
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN)
Hell can't it be all four?
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:29 PM (zt+N6)
My God have mercy on the murderer's soul, 'cause I have none.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2015 12:30 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 11:54 AM (zOTsN)
On the other hand, calling the open supporters of unfettered immigration "Vichy" or "Quisling" is dead on... and actually flips the nazi label back onto the illegals.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 12:33 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:33 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:35 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:36 PM (rHXGG)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 12:38 PM (3kBFI)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:38 PM (39g3+)
For some reason, I just suggested bacon'n'egg sammiches to Milady, and she said, sounds great, if only we had some bacon.
Commiserating sadz
Posted by: mindful webworker - we can haz sausage? at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (lADRM)
My 26 minute wait time was just a hair under 2 hours.
"How long will it take to mail that to me? I have a flight coming up,
and if you say Two Weeks, I'm going postal up in here..."
"Um, 7 to 10 days, sir."
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (ENe42)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:40 PM (rHXGG)
Anyway, you can make it with canned peaches if you want. Don't need a pressure canner. But for true luxury, make it with fresh boysenberries and serve with homemade vanilla ice cream.
http://farmersalmanac.com/food/recipes/2010/08/13/11306/
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:41 PM (qahv/)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:42 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:42 PM (qahv/)
Yes
Posted by: navybrat at August 29, 2015 12:43 PM (ETxiG)
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 29, 2015 10:39 AM (7CUQa)
I've made kraut many times, and if I can do it, you know it's easy. I use the recipe in the Nourishing Traditions book and I used to use a big canning jar, but now I have a fermenting crock and a jar with an airlock. Nourishing Traditions calls for using a little yogurt whey to make sure the good bugs get a foothold, but I don't know that it's necessary.
This week I made kimchi in the crock, but I cheated by using Mama O kimchi paste.
Posted by: stace at August 29, 2015 12:45 PM (CoX6k)
Rarely, botulism can form while sauerkraut is being made, so it is probably best to cook it before tasting.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 12:45 PM (qahv/)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 12:47 PM (cbfNE)
Then we got older, and neither one of us can eat much cabbage without intense digestive distress and I can't eat sugar so those recipes got shelved
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 12:48 PM (3fTXW)
Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2015 12:50 PM (6RZos)
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 12:50 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 12:53 PM (39g3+)
Guess what that characteristic is?
It's gotten so bad that they won't even report the facts when it is vital for the public safety and law enforcement that they do so.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 29, 2015 12:12 PM (x3GpS)
Yet to this day, nearly every single media report I've ever heard about the Michael Brown incident includes the phrase, "A white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teen."
If a race war breaks out, the media will bear a very large portion of the blame with their slanted reporting and outright lies.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 12:53 PM (sdi6R)
The key to good sauerkraut is bacon.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (iQIUe)
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG)
Posted by: SarahW at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (3fTXW)
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 12:59 PM (MDgS8)
Updated cynically
Posted by: mindful webworker - #ArtificialIntelligenceMatters at August 29, 2015 12:59 PM (lADRM)
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 01:00 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2015 01:01 PM (MDgS8)
I was boiling flour to make paste (as one does) and when I was done pasting labels I had a good tablespoon of cooked flour paste left over.
I decided to dump it into the yeast starter (sponge) I had working on the counter.
The bread turned out with the bubbles being finer, the web being finer, and the crumb being more elastic than usual.
What is going on here? Is there an explanation?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: Fritz at August 29, 2015 01:03 PM (3tjn4)
All the Old Ones who knew the secret recipe are gone now. *sigh*
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at August 29, 2015 01:03 PM (rhjQp)
Botulinum toxin is not destroyed by heating until it hits 180+ degrees for a long time.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (PfVjp)
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG)
Aren't you in the Milwaukee area? How can you say you hate sauerkraut and still be allowed to remain there?
Some things aren't against the law, and should be.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:04 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (3kBFI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (9mTYi)
Had some at a German restaurant in Pittsburgh once that was half apple, half cabbage and not too sauer...I would eat that again but I've never seen it anywhere else.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 12:54 PM (rHXGG)
The recipe I use from America's Test Kitchen for bratwurst and sauerkraut recommends adding grated apple and carrot to the kraut. I've made it several times. It works for me.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:06 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:09 PM (3kBFI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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'Caught' may not not be exactly the word. It appears that his mother dropped a dime.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 01:09 PM (9mTYi)
My hubby's family puts apples in potato salad. It's good.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 12:22 PM (oKE6c)
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Make that s/he/it - pronounced shee-it
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (NaeCR)
I moved to Indianapolis--which also had a history of German settlement/business people, but they trashed most traces of it in 1914 and never brought it back--four years ago.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (rHXGG)
sauerkraut recommends adding grated apple and carrot to the kraut. I've
made it several times. It works for me.
That sounds like something I would try. I made a chicken soup with carrots a few weeks ago and it was very sweet--no added sugars, it was all from the carrots.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (rHXGG)
The race was has just begun. Be sure to hold you gun sideways.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:02 PM (PfVjp)
And grab your crotch while firing.
Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (HtUkt)
This was sorta the hot dog discussion yesterday. It is what it is.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (3kBFI)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:13 PM (PfVjp)
gourmet up everything. Sauerkraut is sauerkraut. You don't have to
do anything else to it. It's already perfect.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:10 PM (Dj0WE)
Caraway seed and sausages. Mmmm.
Apples are also good in moderation, the sweetness reduces the acidity.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:15 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:15 PM (cbfNE)
This was sorta the hot dog discussion yesterday. It is what it is.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (3kBFI)
Heh, yeah I kinda made the same point in that one too. They do go together perfectly well.
This is how I know satan is real... hear me out on this: You take a nice fatty sausage, grill it up, throw some kraut on top, a nice spicy mustard, a warm, firm bun... and you have nature's most perfect food. So perfect, you cannot eat just one, but since each is about 1500 calories, after a few years of eating these your arteries are so fully of sausage grease you die.
If it was up to God only, this perfect combination of flavors and textures would be about 350 calories, maybe half a dozen grams of fat, and would be the cure for cancer.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:16 PM (Dj0WE)
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Confession: at 48, I've still never had kimchi but have wanted to try it for years. Sounds like I'd love it.
Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 01:17 PM (ENe42)
Got the recipe from the kidlet. Not sure where she got it. Want I should type it up for you?
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:18 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (3kBFI)
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:19 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:20 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: PaleRider at August 29, 2015 01:20 PM (iA/+T)
I would substitute yellow mustard for the spicy. It just looks better on the front of my shirt.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 01:21 PM (EWr9w)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 01:23 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 01:21 PM (EWr9w)
Hah! The florescent yellow tends to stain my fingers, so I like a slightly less conspicuous color, so it doesn't look like this is my first time eating food.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2015 01:28 PM (Dj0WE)
That sounds like something I would try. I made a chicken soup with carrots a few weeks ago and it was very sweet--no added sugars, it was all from the carrots.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 29, 2015 01:12 PM (rHXGG)
I also have a spaghetti sauce recipe I got from somewhere on the internet that calls for a grated carrot in lieu of sugar. It might sound weird, but it's just one carrot for a whole batch that makes about 8 servings.
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:29 PM (sdi6R)
2 (10.7oz) crème of chick soup
1 C buffalo wing sauce. I use Frank's.
1 onion, finely chopped
2 1/2 lbs chicken breasts, cut to bite size
Salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste
1 1/2 (16oz) pkgs uncooked penne pasta
16 oz sour cream
1/2 cup ranch dressing (I used home made)
1 C grated mozzarella cheese
Coat crock pot with cooking spray. Pour soup and wing sauce into cooker; add onion. Stir.
Dust cut up chicken with spices, and add to cooker, stirring to combine.
Cover and cook on high for 3 to 4 hours or until chicken is cooked thru. Turn off cooker.
Cook pasta and drain. Add to chicken mixture, stir, add in sour cream, dressing and mozzarella. Let set for a few minutes before serving.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:29 PM (PfVjp)
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Grab a deepdish foil pan--
Add bratwurst (enough to feed your crew)
Smother it with shoestring-sliced onions (one small onion for every brat)
Pour in a beer or two (use the crappy stuff your b.i.l. brought)
Cover loosely with foil and cook over low heat (350-375 if you got some fancy grill thermometer) for about 45 min or you remember in time to not burn it.
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (rhjQp)
Posted by: Buffalbob at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (nIzfh)
Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 01:24 PM (sdi6R)
I used to hate cole slaw, but started making slaw and kraut when my brother was farming and would bring cabbages to hand out at family gatherings. Thanks, bro!
Now I prefer it to a lettuce salad because it's more nutritious than lettuce and cabbage keeps much longer than salad greens. There are several ways to go with it--vinegary/sweet, mayonaisy, Asian, or weird versions like tequila/lime. The mayo version was the one I used to be scared of.
Posted by: stace at August 29, 2015 01:32 PM (CoX6k)
Copying and saving.
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:34 PM (cbfNE)
Leave out the sour cream, dressing and cheese. Put chicken mixture in a tortilla and then add sour cream, dressing and cheese for a wrap.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:36 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 01:37 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 01:37 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at August 29, 2015 01:39 PM (gCeSe)
https://crayfisher.wordpress.com/cooking-club/#comment-264482
Posted by: @votermom at August 29, 2015 01:45 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:11 PM (PfVjp)
A link I got here, of course.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (PfVjp)
231 Deputy Sheriff shot dead in Texas. Authorities OR the reporters fail to tell the public one important characteristic of the suspect so as to help apprehend him.
Our radio station called him "dark-complected."
Posted by: Teri at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (Wk1K/)
A link I got here, of course.
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 02:14 PM (PfVjp)
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Step 1: Catch and milk one buffalo...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 02:23 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: HobbieHawk at August 29, 2015 02:36 PM (AQ3lr)
Posted by: O.W. Douglas at August 29, 2015 02:51 PM (vL/IL)
Don't know about repainting, but I use hairspray to put handgrips on my motorcycles. Lets them slide on, then dries to keep them stuck in place, and isn't too hard to peel them free when it's time to remove them.
Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 03:22 PM (2GbWn)
It seems to me that any consumer grade cooker is a danger. I hate government regulations, but in this case they are needed.
Posted by: Bob at August 29, 2015 04:14 PM (XESH2)
For denaturing the toxin (not killing the organism) I see figures of 176 degrees for 20 minutes or greater than 185 degrees for at least 5 minutes. Time varies with pH. Boiling for a few minutes is recommended. Don't taste the food first.
http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/botulism.pdf
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2015 05:49 PM (qahv/)
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