Morning Thread (8-20-2015)

"Was up all night wiping the server" *wink* ~ Bill Clinton

Posted by: Andy at 06:29 AM

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1 Morning horde. Can't sleep anymore . F'n cats.

Our B-17 will be here tomorrow. Yay

http://tinyurl.com/ocsp9ey

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:29 AM (BO/km)

2 What, like with a cloth or something?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 20, 2015 06:31 AM (6eVVe)

3 I hope you left a tip Bill.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:34 AM (BO/km)

4 Good job Hillary! If G Gordon would have been half as smart we might have avoided going to prison. And the prison rape. I think G Gordon liked the rape though. He was a pitcher not a catcher so......

Posted by: Zombie H R Halderman at August 20, 2015 06:34 AM (cAkIT)

5 Like "Maybe you should put some ice on that"

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:35 AM (BO/km)

6 Ready for Hillary!

Posted by: Leavenworth at August 20, 2015 06:35 AM (rjTvY)

7 Chris Matthews looked exhausted and resigned talking about the snapchat joke.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 20, 2015 06:35 AM (VdICR)

8 Donna
You were asking about PP protest locations on the ONT.

Here ya go

http://wp.me/P6vb7o-D

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 06:36 AM (VPLuQ)

9 Another racist cocksucker brought to justice in St. Louis.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 06:37 AM (kvWer)

10 After watching the first forty minutes of Morning Joe, I gotta say I might just jump on the Trump bandwagon.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 20, 2015 06:37 AM (kqGWM)

11 I can eat fifty eggs.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (rjTvY)

12 After much thought, this morning I am announcing that I am suspending my campaign, until after labor day, in order to prepare for the up coming investigations,

Posted by: hillary the horrible at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (WCnJW)

13 And then ride the elevator?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (kvWer)

14 11 I can eat fifty eggs.
Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (rjTvY)

Each morning for breakfast I eat five dozen eggs.

Posted by: Gaston at August 20, 2015 06:41 AM (YOd/B)

15 So, how much did they damage in St Louis last night? Read that Shaun King got reamed big time on cnn.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 20, 2015 06:41 AM (iQIUe)

16 Funny all my dem union golfing buddies are all pro Trump.

Posted by: redenzo at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (WCnJW)

17 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (BO/km)

18 At least the second morning without Vic.

Do we have an issue, or is he taking some much deserved time off from the morning VNN service?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 06:44 AM (VPLuQ)

19
Donald Trump Has Republican 'Reformicons' Worried

Conservative policy wonks does not like the way the GOP primary is shaping up.

http://tinyurl.com/om9qkeu

National Review towel-folders having the vapors.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 06:44 AM (kdS6q)

20 @17: Stop whining, and enjoy your organic polygamous halal meals in the cafeteria for free.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 20, 2015 06:46 AM (kqGWM)

21 And last night, Baltimore tied 2014's record with 211 down.

And we haven't even got to the Police trial in October yet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 06:46 AM (VPLuQ)

22 Has much changed in Calculus in the last hundred years or so?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 06:47 AM (kvWer)

23 22 Has much changed in Calculus in the last hundred years or so?

Turns out we read Newton's formulas upside-down.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 20, 2015 06:50 AM (YOd/B)

24 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 06:44 AM (kdS6q)

True conservative wonks want the steady hand of Mitch "Unfortuntely" McConnell at the helm.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 20, 2015 06:51 AM (YOd/B)

25
Trump takes heat from Romney advisers on immigration

Eric Fehrnstrom, a former senior advisor to Romney, tweeted Tuesday that "Trumps immigration plan is a Punji stake pit for other candidates. They should not fall into the trap of looking like they oppose reform."

http://tinyurl.com/p4nanl7

And so on. Team Romney -- totes conservative.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 06:51 AM (kdS6q)

26 Has much changed in Calculus in the last hundred years or so?

Apparently the price has gone up. When I was in school it was worthless.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:51 AM (BO/km)

27 "Has much changed in Calculus in the last hundred years or so?"

I think they needed to update the introduction.

Turns out that calculus was actually invented by a transgendered lesbian muslim woman of color, during her time of servitude and slavery to the white man in South Carolina.

Other then that, pretty much unchanged.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 06:53 AM (VPLuQ)

28 And last night, Baltimore tied 2014's record with 211 down.

And we haven't even got to the Police trial in October yet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 06:46 AM (VPLuQ)
Chicago : 2 dead 6 shotThe small city I live near had a winning number if included in the contest. Small city, lots dead and shot...But Black Lives Matter!!!!! not really, only when a white cop is involved. But hey, lets get those damn cops, they are killing our children.

Posted by: Colin at August 20, 2015 06:54 AM (vIeIs)

29 Did Vic get banned for insulting the real *rick wilson, or is he just "on vacation" with Maygynz Kelly?

Posted by: Anti-socialist at August 20, 2015 06:54 AM (o9lmn)

30 I'd bet $10 today that if Biden jumps into the race, then Gore does too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 20, 2015 06:55 AM (kqGWM)

31 Another Blacktivist outed as white.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 06:55 AM (kvWer)

32 I'm looking forward to whatever Trumpy has to say today. So far this morning has been crap.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:56 AM (BO/km)

33 Our B-17 will be here tomorrow. Yay
http://tinyurl.com/ocsp9ey

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:29 AM

Funny, ol' Doug MacArthur said the same thing back in '42....

He expected a B-17, and got PT boats.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 20, 2015 06:57 AM (0atQl)

34 Biden/Gore 2016. That's just f'n perfect.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:57 AM (BO/km)

35 ManBearPig FTW.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 06:58 AM (kvWer)

36 31: They self identify as as black, hence they are "black". Don't H8 yo!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 20, 2015 06:58 AM (5snv2)

37 Funny all my dem union golfing buddies are all pro Trump.
Posted by: redenzo at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (WCnJW)

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That makes me think that one of the side effects of the GOPe ruthlessly attacking Trump is to make him look like an outsider. By being an outsider, he becomes more acceptable to Democrats.

Of course, he would appeal to Democrats on a lot of issues anyways.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 06:59 AM (nRvEn)

38
$350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest.

Could learn it at home for free, but then the kid can't get the credential.
https://www.khanacademy.org/math/integral-calculus

I've been using them to fill in some gaps in my shitty K-12 experience (can't really call it education); I may be as smart as a fourth grader by the end of the year.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 20, 2015 07:00 AM (rHXGG)

39 "Chicago : 2 dead 6 shotThe small city I live near had a winning number if included in the contest. Small city, lots dead and shot...But Black Lives Matter!!!!!"

Pretty ironic, isn't it.

Between Planned Parenthood parting them out and gang-bangers, a young black male has a pretty tough time simply staying alive till age thirty.
But let's focus on the real problem...
Police.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 07:02 AM (VPLuQ)

40
Yeah, where is Vic?
We demand to know what happened to Vic!
Give us our Vic!
Vic, now!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 20, 2015 07:03 AM (iQIUe)

41 Iran will self inspect nuclear sites.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:04 AM (kvWer)

42 I may be as smart as a fourth grader by the end of the year

The operative question, HR, is: will you be as smart as a fourth-grader with a computer?

Yes, kids have access to a lot of learnin' these days, but less of it is actually encased in their noggins and more comes from their iPhones, notebooks and "smart" thingies.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 20, 2015 07:04 AM (0atQl)

43
Costco sells imported shrimp that were fed by slave labor in Thailand, lawyers in San Francisco charged Wednesday in a consumer lawsuit that seeks to halt the imports and demands refunds for its California customers.

Held captive by traffickers who pocket their wages, the laborers, many of them Burmese, work as long as 20 hours a day, seven days a week, sometimes while shackled, the suit said. Some former slave laborers have reported being whipped and electrically shocked.

Costco, as one of the largest companies in the world, is able to dictate the terms by which shrimp are produced and supplied to it, the suit said. Costco publicly represents that it does not tolerate human trafficking and slavery in its supply chain, the suit said, and should be held to its words.

http://tinyurl.com/qdpaw7w

So, the lawers get millions, the California customers get tens and the shrimp slaves get jack.

Justice!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 07:05 AM (kdS6q)

44 National Review towel-folders having the vapors.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 06:44 AM (kdS6q)

I liked the article complaining that Trump basically said people don't care about policy papers and he did it for the press. As much as it pains me to say it, he is right. Elections are not won or lost on policy papers. It would be better if people paid more attention to the details, but reality is they don't. An uninvolved public is a two-edged sword. The GOPe and Democrats like it when it suits them. When it gives them Trump, they don't like it.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 07:08 AM (nRvEn)

45 17 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.
Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (BO/km)

That's awful! And, unlike some other disciplines, it's not like calculus has changed all that much in the last 50 years or so (and probably not the last 100, either). Thanks, education-industrial complex!

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:10 AM (ueOgE)

46 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

I don't care for poetry, but while trawling the web yesterday, I came across a little thing that gave me that grab at your heart that you get when something affects you.

You may or may not have heard of Don Marquis. He was a journalist and writer, famous in the Teens and Twenties for his columns in the NY Evening Sun and Evening Tribube. His most famous creation, however, was the cockroach "archy." Marquis' conceit was that archy had been a free-verse poet in his earlier life and now left poems on Marquis' typewriter, all in lower case and without punctuation because he couldn't operate the shift key.

Here is the poem that got me: the lesson of the moth. It was the conclusion that gave me that awful wrench in the heart:

http://goo.gl/21UUpZ

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 20, 2015 07:11 AM (zF6Iw)

47

DAY 1,017

446 to go (519 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:12 AM (St6BJ)

48 Freaked: it's been here (Oak Island, NC) the past two years on visits. Their demonstration flight path was right over my house on the outbound leg when the wind was SW. You hear it way before you see it.

Posted by: Agitator at August 20, 2015 07:12 AM (evW/a)

49 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (BO/km)[/i

"Scam" doesn't even begin to cover it. I wouldn't buy it. Have your kid use his phone to just take pictures of someone else's. All he needs are the exercises, anyway. There are plenty of excellent calc tutorials online, free.

Calculus textbooks have hardly changed since Euler, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2015 07:13 AM (MYSVz)

50 G'mornin', Horde !

Yay coffee !

Cool & cloudy today in NW IL, yay !

Ok, I'll stop being enthusiastic before someone throws something.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 20, 2015 07:13 AM (JtNDK)

51

Damn!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2015 07:13 AM (MYSVz)

52 Conservative policy wonks does not like the way the GOP primary is shaping up.

http://tinyurl.com/om9qkeu

These "conservative policy wonks" are pushing ideas like Federal subsidies for minimum wage workers and bigger child tax credits. In essence, they are pushing a different flavor of Free Shit than the Democrats.

Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2015 07:13 AM (O7MnT)

53 Euclid?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:14 AM (kvWer)

54 Scam" doesn't even begin to cover it. I wouldn't buy it. Have your kid use his phone to just take pictures of someone else's. All he needs are the exercises, anyway. There are plenty of excellent calc tutorials online, free.

Not to mention, this internet thing the kids are all wild about has a lot of used textbooks if you know where to look. You don't need the latest edition of most textbooks. Go back two editions and it will be the same material at a much lower price.

Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2015 07:15 AM (O7MnT)

55 Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:14 AM (kvWer)

No. Euler.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2015 07:15 AM (MYSVz)

56 I found him. Euler has a wiki page.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:18 AM (kvWer)

57 The operative question, HR, is: will you be as smart as a fourth-grader with a computer?

My niece starts 5th grade next week. She likes to make PowerPoint presentations on Papa's computer, because that's what they do at school instead of writing paragraphs. I was helping her make one last week, and we had Wikipedia open to check some dates and steal some pictures, and she starts copying words into her presentation...

Me: Do you know what "facade" means?
Her: No.
Me: Why is it on this slide, then?
Her: I don't know...
Me: Let's take that out and talk about the building with words you know...
Her: I don't know any words!
Me: *rummaging in Papa's liquor cabinet*

Meanwhile, she gets bullied by at school for not being stupid enough to fit in, but her mother is just like our mother and her society life is more important than getting her kid into a safe place where she can actually be taught instead of warehoused. Ho-hum.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 20, 2015 07:19 AM (rHXGG)

58 I found him. Euler has a wiki page.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:18 AM (kvWer)

Heh. With everything he did it's got to be one big, damn page.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 20, 2015 07:19 AM (MYSVz)

59 Ya gotta laugh when "Conservative" policy wonks are decrying a candidate who is bringing up an issue that is important to the base of the party as being too inflammatory and is a distraction from real policy debate.

All of these pukes have to DIAF, they simply must.

They are not listening, they are simplynot listening to us any more.

In fact they are now openly contemptuous of us.

So it's should be no surprise why the base is contemptuous right back.

I want things for my support just like the Dems expect and get routinely.

I am done with rhetoric I want results or get the hell out.

ITS WAR!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 20, 2015 07:19 AM (mysAS)

60 Trump live on Morning Joe for how long? Casually bantering with everyone like they're college drinking buddies? Almost high wire act kinda stuff. Can you imagine Jeb doing five minutes unscripted?!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 20, 2015 07:20 AM (kqGWM)

61 The Koreas are exchanging Artillery fire.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:20 AM (kvWer)

62 @40

Be careful. Remember, we tried making demands with Weirddave's Famous Disappearing Post, and we were punished with All Gabe All the Time for like 3, 4 days. Vic's hopefully off doing something mentally healthy and having a good time. Hell, maybe he found a party somewhere.

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:21 AM (ueOgE)

63 61 The Koreas are exchanging Artillery fire.
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:20 AM (kvWer)

I saw that. Example #1,431 of "fundamental transformation."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:22 AM (St6BJ)

64 Royals won again last night.
Stitches come out of knee this afternoon.
Music practice tonight.
I reckon it's okay for the sun to come up today.

Posted by: teej who wants a lab puppy at August 20, 2015 07:22 AM (IG9gl)

65 Buehrle

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2015 07:22 AM (4TTES)

66 New Calculus:

Adjunct Professor living on crockpot beans: Sure I'll use your overpriced textbook for the class I'm teaching.
Tenured Prof: Yawn, did you speak, peon. Something disturbed my nap.
Adjunct Professor: -- So, my contract is good for another semester.
Tenured Prof: Perhaps, rub my feet.

Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2015 07:23 AM (ztOda)

67
So, if Edward Snowden ever set foot on these shores he could be ("could" don't mean ""would") tried for treason.

Hilary quite probably released more classified/sensitive/secret information by orders of magnitude than Snowden.

And yet. And yet . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:24 AM (St6BJ)

68 96% humidity.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 20, 2015 07:25 AM (kvWer)

69 If a policy (or a tax code, or a contract, or ....) is so complex that it needs to have a "wonk" to explain it to you, you are being conned.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 20, 2015 07:25 AM (JtNDK)

70 #BlackLivesMatter panel applauds threat to shoot at police.

https://tinyurl.com/ob4qzux

Warning: Autoplay ads.

Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2015 07:26 AM (O7MnT)

71 freaked

that's pretty cool.....the b-17... not the not sleeping part

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 20, 2015 07:27 AM (0O7c5)

72 Plus Amazon and some other sites lease text books now. It's a bit cheaper at least.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 07:27 AM (nRvEn)

73 Wow even CBS is getting into the Hillary is lying about email game. They had a small segment on it this morning and it was actually balanced. The actually debunked the meme that Hillary's people keep claiming that the email was not classified when she got it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2015 07:29 AM (iONHu)

74
A ride in a B-17, B-24 or B-25 is definitely one thing I will do before I die.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:29 AM (St6BJ)

75 Agitator this B-17 doesn't fly. It's coming in on three trucks.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:29 AM (BO/km)

76 Morning all.

Hillary has all the charm of week old cheese left in a car in 100 degree heat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 07:31 AM (gf8BH)

77 Agitator this B-17 doesn't fly. It's coming in on three trucks.

7:30AM and the first dream dies

Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2015 07:31 AM (ztOda)

78 @57
Kids don't memorize or learn rote work much anymore. Their knowledge is heavily limited by the battery percentage on their smartphones. I've seen college-bound teenagers who can't divide by 10 without a calculator. It's not much of a surprise that the standardized testing is therefore downgrading the importance of basic memorized facts and rote work. Sadly, those two things could be done by kids even a little below average, so of course we have to curve the tests more so they can still pass...

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:31 AM (ueOgE)

79 Hilary quite probably released more classified/sensitive/secret information by orders of magnitude than Snowden.

And yet. And yet . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:24 AM (St6BJ)

Actually no, Snowden leaked a ton and should be trotured then shot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 07:32 AM (gf8BH)

80 Morning, all. 63 degrees in DFW this morning with a high of 86 today. Crazy.

Posted by: DangerGirl: Hardliner, Reactionary and All-Around Wackobird at August 20, 2015 07:33 AM (7OF+y)

81 "Hillary has all the charm of week old cheese left in a car in 100 degree heat"

Smells the same too.. she's a self (with walker) propelled moldy sore...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 20, 2015 07:33 AM (eOpVe)

82 74
A ride in a B-17, B-24 or B-25 is definitely one thing I will do before I die.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:29 AM (St6BJ)
-----

How about Poughkeepsie this weekend?

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/events/category/wings-of-freedom-tour/

Posted by: Tom K at August 20, 2015 07:34 AM (jWPU7)

83 Huma Abedin Received Over $40,000 From Hillarys Leadership PAC

Pay off?

Weasel Zippers

She sells out cheap, but then we already know that since she has slept with that weiner creep

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 07:34 AM (gf8BH)

84 @59 All of these pukes have to DIAF, they simply must. (By Kreplach)

DIAF is probably dig in and fight, but we have a few other options

Disintegrate in a flash
Die in any fashion
Drink into a fugue
Dress, if anything fits

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:34 AM (ueOgE)

85 Just watched BadLipReading's version of the Repub debate.

I'm DYIN" over here!

Now that is some funny azz shizzle.

The "musical closing statements" at the end, alone, makes it worth the watch.

And now I have "Every Mouse has a Wienie" stuck in my head. Thanks, Dr. Carson.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 20, 2015 07:35 AM (7ObY1)

86 62
@40

Be careful. Remember, we tried making demands with Weirddave's
Famous Disappearing Post, and we were punished with All Gabe All the
Time for like 3, 4 days. Vic's hopefully off doing something mentally
healthy and having a good time. Hell, maybe he found a party somewhere.

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:21 AM (ueOgE)

the blog friend blocked me on twitter.........and to think he's a consultant shaping and forming the party and candidates that the establishment demands i vote for? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? he can't control his twitter responses to a tauntress like ann......the elitest establishment can #GOPhuckThemselves.....they are out of touch with conservatives....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 20, 2015 07:35 AM (0O7c5)

87 79 Actually no, Snowden leaked a ton and should be trotured then shot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 07:32 AM (gf8BH)

I suppose Snowden's leaks are more military/national security in nature. But I guess we'll never know with the server in the back of Odd Job's Lincoln.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:35 AM (St6BJ)

88 11
I can eat fifty eggs.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (rjTvY)
in one sitting?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 20, 2015 07:35 AM (0O7c5)

89 17
$350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.

Posted by: freaked

I hear you. Did you buy the graphing calculator yet?

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (HJqXj)

90 82 How about Poughkeepsie this weekend?

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/events/category/wings-of-freedom-tour/
Posted by: Tom K at August 20, 2015 07:34 AM (jWPU7)

Really?! Wow. I have to check my schedule.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (St6BJ)

91 "They are not listening, they are simply not listening to us any more. "

Read that. It's as if the GOP wonks, prognosticators, and, a good portion of the Presidential field are stuck living in the "Land of Forms" while the base lives in reality. They are worried about policy papers while the base is worried about the fate of the nation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (JT11m)

92 Hilary quite probably released more classified/sensitive/secret information by orders of magnitude than Snowden.

Different stuff:

Manning: Operational Traffic exposing how we act and put individuals at risk. Should have been shot, in theater.
Snowden: Exposed technical sources and methods, blinding us and invalidating trillions in investments. Needs to be shot on a Moscow street some evening, just to send a message.
Hilary: Exposed intentions and decision making at a senior levels. Prison for life, plus 10.

Each a different flavor, hard to prioritize.

Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (ztOda)

93 Mornin', y'all.

Freaked, I didn't realize you were so close to me.

Posted by: Country Singer, with a slightly improved ticker at August 20, 2015 07:38 AM (nL0sw)

94 88 11
I can eat fifty eggs.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 20, 2015 06:39 AM (rjTvY)
in one sitting?
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 20, 2015 07:35 AM (0O7c5)

Auditioning for a John Waters film?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:38 AM (St6BJ)

95
G'mornin' all . . .

Posted by: GBruno at August 20, 2015 07:39 AM (u49WF)

96 "I've seen college-bound teenagers who can't divide by 10 without a calculator."

I was purchasing something at a Sports Authority and their computers were down...I had a 15% coupon and without the computer manager could not figure it and the 8.25% sales tax to run the card manually....College Graduate in Business... when I showed her how she said "that can't be accurate" I went back later when the computers came back up and checked out...as I left I pulled out the paper I did the math on and said..."Accurate"

Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 20, 2015 07:39 AM (eOpVe)

97
Did you buy the graphing calculator yet?

Yes because the kid wanted one for Christmas last year. He like's math. As farthat goes he's light years ahead of me I barely made it thru Algebra.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:40 AM (BO/km)

98 You ever wonder why the English get a bad rap at being imperialists then see what happens in places like Thailand to the poor Burmese?

You ever wonder why 2 words like wipe and Hillary just sound great when used together in a sentence?

You ever wonder why Romney doesn't just go away and leave the rest of us alone already?

Posted by: Zombie Andy Rooney at August 20, 2015 07:41 AM (6dGLJ)

99 Did you buy the graphing calculator yet?

The iPhone app?

Posted by: Jean at August 20, 2015 07:41 AM (ztOda)

100 #BlackLivesMatter panel applauds threat to shoot at police.

https://tinyurl.com/ob4qzux

Warning: Autoplay ads.

Warning: Suboptimal idea.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:41 AM (LImvu)

101 "Morning, all. 63 degrees in DFW this morning"

Between the cool temp and the AC I woke up feeling chilly this morning. Pinched myself to make sure.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 07:41 AM (JT11m)

102
'Freaked, I didn't realize you were so close to me.'

Oh yea. Not far at all. How are you feeling today?

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:42 AM (BO/km)

103 89, 17
I hear you. Did you buy the graphing calculator yet? Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (HJqXj)

Oh, don't get me started on those g-damned TI calculators. A hundred twenty bucks for $10 worth of components, including a Z80 processor first sold in 19-f'ing-76. When the revolution comes...

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:42 AM (ueOgE)

104 17 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.
Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 06:43 AM (BO/km)

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That is a real class action law suit waiting for someone to pull the trigger. Wonder why no one has done it yet?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:42 AM (LXJ1e)

105 like's? Yike's!

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:42 AM (BO/km)

106 91 "They are not listening, they are simply not listening to us any more. "

Read that. It's as if the GOP wonks, prognosticators, and, a good portion of the Presidential field are stuck living in the "Land of Forms" while the base lives in reality. They are worried about policy papers while the base is worried about the fate of the nation.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 07:36 AM (JT11m)

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Actually, I think they are listening, they just hate you.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:44 AM (LXJ1e)

107 "I've seen college-bound teenagers who can't divide by 10 without a calculator."

If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2015 07:44 AM (O7MnT)

108 Most cashiers can't figure out how to give correct change if the register breaks.

Posted by: DangerGirl: Hardliner, Reactionary and All-Around Wackobird at August 20, 2015 07:45 AM (7OF+y)

109 Read that. It's as if the GOP wonks, prognosticators, and, a good portion of the Presidential field are stuck living in the "Land of Forms" while the base lives in reality. They are worried about policy papers while the base is worried about the fate of the nation.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Nailed it.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:45 AM (LImvu)

110
Be careful. Remember, we tried making demands
with Weirddave's Famous Disappearing Post, and we were punished with All
Gabe All the Time for like 3, 4 days. Vic's hopefully off doing
something mentally healthy and having a good time. Hell, maybe he found
a party somewhere.

Posted by: Agent J.

I reposted excerpts from Friend of the Blog - The Rick Wilson's Politico screed in the Art Thread yesterday. The one that Weirddave gutted like a trout before The Great Disappearing Weirddave Post Scandal of '15.

Weirddave did an awesome job on the ONT last night.

More Weirddave! Less Gabe!

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 07:45 AM (HJqXj)

111 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam.

In the age of ebooks, no less.

And in a subject that isn't exactly in need of frequent updating.

Scam indeed.

Posted by: Jared at August 20, 2015 07:46 AM (oVJmc)

112 "89 17 $350 for a first year calculus textbook for the oldest. $750 total for one semester's books. What a scam. Posted by: freaked"

This is your education.
This is your education on left-fascism.
Any questions?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 20, 2015 07:47 AM (u5gzz)

113 108 Most cashiers can't figure out how to give correct change if the register breaks.

Hey, let's pay them 15 bucks an hour!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 20, 2015 07:47 AM (7ObY1)

114 "Morning, all. 63 degrees in DFW this morning"

Between the cool temp and the AC I woke up feeling chilly this morning. Pinched myself to make sure.

Not gonna last. Enjoy it while it's here.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:47 AM (LImvu)

115 40

Yeah, where is Vic?

We demand to know what happened to Vic!

Give us our Vic!

Vic, now!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

I hope he's not in my situation but if he shows up on the Yahoo group page then...

Posted by: Gmac - banned at home - #twoweeks at August 20, 2015 07:47 AM (4pjhs)

116 Between the cool temp and the AC I woke up feeling chilly this morning. Pinched myself to make sure.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 07:41 AM (JT11m)
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I forgot what a cool morning felt like.

Posted by: DangerGirl: Hardliner, Reactionary and All-Around Wackobird at August 20, 2015 07:47 AM (7OF+y)

117 You can rent via Amazon for some college textbooks. Last semester we saved a lot of money that way.

I hope Vic is okay, and is back soon.

Posted by: Gem at August 20, 2015 07:48 AM (c+gwp)

118 Oh, don't get me started on those g-damned TI
calculators. A hundred twenty bucks for $10 worth of components,
including a Z80 processor first sold in 19-f'ing-76. When the
revolution comes...

Posted by: Agent J

I have accumulated 3 of them over the years.

NONE of the 3 is what the prof wants for them to have.

Does any company actually compete with TI for these things? I am headed to Amazon in a few minutes to check in the 'used' section.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (HJqXj)

119 86, 62, 40
the blog friend blocked me on twitter.........

Well, when I questioned him here, I got an unexpected public F-off from a frequent poster and blog friend. Of course there was no response from GM. Maybe he's thin-skinned.

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (ueOgE)

120 Re: Price of college textbooks.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the corruption behind some of the profs using specific textbooks. Those profs get paid for using said textbook. If the price of that 'required' textbook happens to require a selling of one's first male born child to be able to buy it, so much the better for the profs making cash on the deal.

Posted by: RickZ at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (HEtQ3)

121 43
"Costco sells imported shrimp that were fed by slave labor in Thailand..."

I wondered what made them so tasty.

Actually, this is hard to believe. Costco and Walmart buy these commodities in such volume that they have product specialists who follow the supply chain from beginning to end, just to avoid anything like this.

We're not talking about a guy who might visit the shrimp farm once every few months. This person would be there basically all the time, assuring quality control, managing inventories, overseeing cleanliness and temperatures of refrigerated shipping containers, planning - based on varying production - shortages or sales.

It's hard to hide slaves in this environment. Also, the largest retailers in the world don't need the hassle of doing business like that to save a few cents per pound on seafood.

I would look to the source of this story for more clarity, perhaps the Louisiana Shrimp Producers Association.

Posted by: jwest at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (P/xrJ)

122 "Not gonna last. Enjoy it while it's here."

Yeah, 'tis true.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (JT11m)

123 You know, Ace seems very defensive of the political consultants. I commented on that Schmidt guy once and he basically came back with "you don't know how good or bad he is so shut up".

He apparently knows this Rick Wilson character personally. I guess he makes lots of friends at these CPAC smooze fests.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:52 AM (LXJ1e)

124 If the price of that 'required' textbook happens to require a selling of one's first male born child to be able to buy it, so much the better for the profs making cash on the deal.

What can you get for a kidney or a heart?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:52 AM (LImvu)

125
Putting aside the dreck, drivel and lies that are in most college textbooks, from a purely marketing standpoint you have to ask:
a) what is the cost of designing/printing/binding the book
b) what is the total market for the book (how many potential customers).

I imagine that these are major factors in the cost. Wifey is always pissed when sections of her books show up as xeroxed copies. Can't blame her because it's money she doesn't see.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:53 AM (St6BJ)

126 122
"Not gonna last. Enjoy it while it's here."

Yeah, 'tis true.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Well, at least I have something to look forward to as we get your weather about three days after you experience it. YAY!!!

Posted by: Gmac - banned at home - #twoweeks at August 20, 2015 07:54 AM (4pjhs)

127 "Learning to Walk"-An "Upper Room" devotional:

http://tinyurl.com/p5yplv5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2015 07:54 AM (OSs/l)

128 What can you get for a kidney or a heart?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:52 AM (LImvu)

A 10-page paperback pamphlet.

Posted by: RickZ at August 20, 2015 07:54 AM (HEtQ3)

129 Freaked: The one that has come here is a fully restored and operational "D" model (I think). Lines were really long for both the on ground tours and demonstration flights. Kind of pricey but it has to take a lot maintenance to keep her flying.

Posted by: Agitator at August 20, 2015 07:55 AM (evW/a)

130 I understand that JJ but for $350 they could at least bind it in leather or gator skin or something. This thing looks like it came off the bargain rack at the dollar store.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (KvWlw)

131 More beautiful pictures of the United States:

http://tinyurl.com/ns8vdph

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (OSs/l)

132 Putting aside the dreck, drivel and lies that are in most college textbooks, from a purely marketing standpoint you have to ask:
a) what is the cost of designing/printing/binding the book
b) what is the total market for the book (how many potential customers).

I imagine that these are major factors in the cost. Wifey is always pissed when sections of her books show up as xeroxed copies. Can't blame her because it's money she doesn't see.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 07:53 AM (St6BJ)

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You can get the on demand printers to pop out an hardcover book for about $20

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:57 AM (LXJ1e)

133 The head guy goes on pretty much daily rants about the GOPe.
A GOPe guy absolutely trashes the base.
A post goes up doing a beautiful job of taking said GOPe guy to task.
Post gets yanked and replaced with post after post from another GOPe guy who is smarter than everyone and hates the base.

Both GOPe guys defended by the boss.
Any light bulbs coming on out there?

Posted by: teej who wants a lab puppy at August 20, 2015 07:57 AM (IG9gl)

134 The Koreas are exchanging Artillery fire.

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I long for a simpler time when this would have been a big deal.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 07:58 AM (ee9LE)

135 You can rent via Amazon for some college textbooks. Last semester we saved a lot of money that way. >

Amen. Amazon also carries a number of the logon credentials at lower price points. We saved just under three grand for the littlest mouse's books and materials over the years...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 20, 2015 07:58 AM (C9pBZ)

136 It's full of numbers and symbols I don't comprehend too so I get no value from it other than the boy's education.

The 2 history text books though I am reading. This is going to be interesting.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 08:00 AM (KvWlw)

137 120 One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the corruption behind some of the profs using specific textbooks. Those profs get paid for using said textbook.
Posted by: RickZ at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (HEtQ3)

I obviously didn't make good enough friends with our rep, though I usually only had 100 students, not 500.

The whole education-industrial complex needs to come down. Pearson sells books for the Common Core tests which they write, sell, and grade. It's positively incestuous.

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 08:01 AM (ueOgE)

138 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2015 08:01 AM (ZQfW9)

139 130 I understand that JJ but for $350 they could at least bind it in leather or gator skin or something. This thing looks like it came off the bargain rack at the dollar store.
Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (KvWlw)

Believe me. I feel your pain. But the costs are what they are. And the smaller the print run, the more expensive the costs are, believe it or not. Now, that does not include mark-ups and other things not directly related purely to the cost to print it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:02 AM (St6BJ)

140 If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

I see you've met my high schoolers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2015 08:02 AM (JO9+V)

141 What can you get for a kidney or a heart?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 07:52 AM (LImvu)

PP should be able to work out the pricing for you for a piece of the action.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 08:02 AM (nRvEn)

142 Why did Jared never order an Italian sub? Too many aged meats.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:02 AM (ee9LE)

143 It's positively incestuous."

They're just pikers compared to DC...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 20, 2015 08:03 AM (C9pBZ)

144 123" You know, Ace seems very defensive of the political consultants. I commented on that Schmidt guy once and he basically came back with "you don't know how good or bad he is so shut up".

Ace and Schmidt shared the same view of Sarah Palin, so they've got a common base of east coast elitism in that sense. However, Ace suffers from the same affliction as most political writers - the need to make the transition to TV pundit.

From observing how people have made the transition in the past, these blog writers believe they have to put up a fa�ade of evenhandedness (read "Conservative Bashing) in order to get the CNN invite.

If they suck enough dick, they are considered "reasonable" and "thoughtful".

Ace is a good writer and probably one of the more honest people out there, but he still sees himself with a bowtie sitting across the table from Mica.

Also, the more you agree with insufferable twits like Charles CW Cooke, the more cocktail parties you get invited to.

Which betters your chances of getting laid.

Which is the whole point.

Posted by: jwest at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (P/xrJ)

145 Here's our latest aspiring rap star:

https://goo.gl/8yiBGD

Have to say he looks retarded.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (iQIUe)

146 132 You can get the on demand printers to pop out an hardcover book for about $20
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:57 AM (LXJ1e)

What about the time and effort to write and edit it? I know, I know. Stop laughing. But putting aside the putative value of the content, authors don't do this for free.

But, the professoriate? Pfft. I could care less (except for wifey).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (St6BJ)

147 130 I understand that JJ but for $350 they could at least bind it in leather or gator skin or something. Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (KvWlw)

For $350, I want it bound in human skin, from someone I pick, personally signed by Jame Gumb. ("XOXO Buffalo Bill")

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (ueOgE)

148 I understand that JJ but for $350 they could at least bind it in leather or gator skin or something. This thing looks like it came off the bargain rack at the dollar store.
Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (KvWlw)

Believe me. I feel your pain. But the costs are what they are. And the smaller the print run, the more expensive the costs are, believe it or not.

Bigger question. Why is the third or fourth semester used book close to that $350?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (LImvu)

149 Morning

Posted by: Bigby's Wiping Hands at August 20, 2015 08:05 AM (3ZtZW)

150 I understand that JJ but for $350 they could at least bind it in leather or gator skin or something. This thing looks like it came off the bargain rack at the dollar store.
Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:56 AM (KvWlw)

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That is to reduce the ability to resell the book.

The book prices are so high it encourages copyright infringement. It's like music before iTunes.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 08:05 AM (nRvEn)

151 Both GOPe guys defended by the boss.

Any light bulbs coming on out there?

Posted by: teej who wants a lab puppy

If I were a candidate (ewww) I would pay ace and the cobs for 'feedback posts' , threads that prompt specific responses from commenters.

Get a couple of staffers to dig through the Lace Wig spam , NSFW links and 'colorful language' and you would have an outstanding campaign intel tool.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 08:06 AM (HJqXj)

152 Bigger question. Why is the third or fourth semester used book close to that $350?"

Because some sucke, er, last minute panicked parent will pay it?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 20, 2015 08:06 AM (C9pBZ)

153 For those that didn't see i yesterday because I messed up the link the first here's the Chick-Fil A song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OwZGmYV-1I

It's cute.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2015 08:07 AM (OSs/l)

154 Some enterprising student should buy the book, digitize it, and sell ebooks for $1 ea.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 20, 2015 08:07 AM (oVJmc)

155 You know what I can't figure out? The left is all about from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. If we were to adopt that according to her abilities stuff, Mooch would be handing out towels in a woman's rest room somewhere.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:09 AM (ee9LE)

156 Bigger question. Why is the third or fourth semester used book close to that $350?"

Because some sucke, er, last minute panicked parent will pay it?

Textbooks should be like other commodites. Loses 20% the moment you leave the store.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:09 AM (LImvu)

157 latest aspiring rap star

ManMann'An Da'ManPurse

Posted by: BananaDream at August 20, 2015 08:09 AM (vLk7c)

158 Hope all's well with Vic.

Sleep concluded with a dream of the Alien Skelepocalypse. I'm starting to wonder about last night's mead.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 20, 2015 08:09 AM (m9V0o)

159 How are you feeling today?

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2015 07:42 AM (BO/km)

I'm meh today, maybe I'll feel better with some breakfast in me. Just finished getting it on the plate.

Posted by: Country Singer, now with slightly improved ticker at August 20, 2015 08:10 AM (nL0sw)

160 >>> If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

Ha!

Posted by: Bigby's Counting Fingers at August 20, 2015 08:10 AM (3ZtZW)

161 Apparently, Monica Crowley thinks that Obama is driving the bus to destroy Hillary's campaign and is upset over it... Somehow I don't think Obama is driving that bus that hard.
http://tinyurl.com/ofbwd6c

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (0eidE)

162 I only get angry because the things they (bitter political consultants) say out loud are the things their immediate bosses, DC-based GOP political leadership, really think. Since those folks lose every election of consequence i get annoyed at their insults; there's hardly anything worse than perpetual losers with big attitudes.

Posted by: MTF at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (TxJGV)

163 I see the Yoots in St Louie are rioting again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (gf8BH)

164
If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

Or do something mechanical. Changed the bulbs of a car's headlights, and they reacted like the Ewoks when they first saw C-3PO.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (kdS6q)

165 The motto of contemporary higher education: Never give a sucker an even break.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (ee9LE)

166 "113 108 Most cashiers can't figure out how to give correct change if the register breaks.

Hey, let's pay them 15 bucks an hour!"

That would be funny ... if it weren't real.

Bewildering young people with in-the-head math skillz is a wonderful, innocent pleasure.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 20, 2015 08:12 AM (JtNDK)

167 150
That is to reduce the ability to resell the book.

The book prices are so high it encourages copyright infringement. It's like music before iTunes.
Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 08:05 AM (nRvEn)

Hence, my wife getting pissed when chapters of her book show up here and there as xerox copies.

As an aside, we have street vendors who sell movie and TV scripts and I guarantee you that they have no rights to do so. And it takes money out of Writers Guild pension and welfare.

But, with college textbooks, things will start changing when e-book versions appear. Or won't. Another example of how screwed up the tuition system and academia in general is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:12 AM (St6BJ)

168 I see the Yoots in St Louie are rioting again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (gf8BH)

Any word on the shooting? Was it legit like Michael Brown's?

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:14 AM (0eidE)

169 Tell the millenials that you are already paying them $15 an hour. Then see who can work out the math on their paycheck. *snort*

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2015 08:14 AM (JO9+V)

170 "Any word on the shooting? Was it legit like Michael Brown's?"

I believe that the Relief Shot was fired after the Perp opened fire at the Officers with a handgun.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (VPLuQ)

171 What about the time and effort to write and edit it?
I know, I know. Stop laughing. But putting aside the putative value
of the content, authors don't do this for free.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM

Dunno how it is for people in your wife's position, JJ, but experience tells me that publishers DO expect authors to turn out books for something closely related to "free."

My first experience with an offer to write a book instead of magazine articles was with a reputable publisher in the field. Dude turned out beautiful (costly) books, really, well designed and nicely printed. I was jazzed when he contacted me; after I had spent all of ten minutes belting out an outline, he was ready for a contract.

I could have lived for the better part of a week on the "advance" offered, would have had to foot the bill for all my expenses (travel, etc.) and the percentage I would get from each sale was roughly 50% below pitiful.

My bank account and I thought it over, weighed the potential return from a) spending a year or more on the book and b) writing another magazine article. No prizes for guessing which choice won.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (0atQl)

172 >>> If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

I like to tell them what change they owe me before they can get the transaction completely rung up.

Posted by: Country Singer, now with slightly improved ticker at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (nL0sw)

173 If millenials suck at math, it's because the baby boomers were lousy teachers.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 20, 2015 08:16 AM (YOd/B)

174 If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

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In a prior lifetime I was a CPA. When I took the test, hand held calculators were just coming out. We had to take the CPA exam with no calculators for fear those devil machines could allow cheating. I understand they now pass out cheapo calculators for the applicants to use.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:16 AM (ee9LE)

175 164
If you want to amaze a millennial, do math in your head. They think it's a form of sorcery.

Or do something mechanical. Changed the bulbs of a car's headlights, and they reacted like the Ewoks when they first saw C-3PO.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (kdS6q)

They're all the feral chidden from "Beyond Thunderdome." Except with zero balls or bravery.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:16 AM (St6BJ)

176 Any word on the shooting? Was it legit like Michael Brown's?

18 yr old, armed with a gat, shot & killed while two officers were serving a search warrant on a home.
18 yr old allegedly pointed gun at them.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:17 AM (LImvu)

177 154 Some enterprising student should buy the book, digitize it, and sell ebooks for $1 ea.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 20, 2015 08:07 AM (oVJmc)

Oh, there's a lot of that kind of theft going on. But it *is* theft. Internet-savvy kids can find the books out there. But now consider the publisher's perspective: if you know the book is going to be stolen, you're going to up the price to compensate. So it's the honest suckers who get screwed.

If half of each book wasn't colorful pictures of people doing stupid stuff, and if they didn't have 3-inch margins and lots of inane "cool fact" boxes, they wouldn't be so expensive. The books look like something out of Sesame Street these days. Of course, the kids want that, so...

True story: a friend was using Schaum's Guide to College Physics, a $20 book, as the primary resource for a high school class he taught. A parent complained about the kids not having a "real" textbook. Now: $175 book.

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 08:17 AM (ueOgE)

178 there's hardly anything worse than perpetual losers with big attitudes."

Remember them in high school? They're now in Government.

Feh.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 20, 2015 08:18 AM (C9pBZ)

179 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:12 AM (St6BJ)

I don't blame her for being upset. However, until the system changes, it isn't going to get better.

I don't think e-books will solve the problem. You can get a lot of textbooks in e-book form and the prices are still pretty steep. Plus you can't resell an e-book. It's perfect for locking in the customer.

Posted by: WOPR at August 20, 2015 08:19 AM (nRvEn)

180 I believe that the Relief Shot was fired after the Perp opened fire at the Officers with a handgun.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (VPLuQ)

Well if that's the case, then it's legit.

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:19 AM (0eidE)

181 "18 yr old allegedly pointed gun at them."

Ahhh. That the "MannMan...uh...Man" above?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 08:20 AM (JT11m)

182 MFM says high capacity magazines are the cause of DC's spike in murders. Got nothing to do with the fact that DC is a gun free zone.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:21 AM (ee9LE)

183 Latest report on the shooting is that the now medically stable perp, while fleeing from the scene of an arrest warrant being served, turned toward pursuing police, and pointed a handgun at them.

At that point, two Officers opened fire, stabilizing the perps condition.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:21 AM (VPLuQ)

184 I believe that the Relief Shot was fired after the Perp opened fire at the Officers with a handgun.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (VPLuQ)

I'm seeing the news saying he just point the gun at the officers, which is pretty much the same as shooting and that the gun the perp had was stolen from Rolla, MO.

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (0eidE)

185 Apparently, Monica Crowley thinks that Obama is driving the bus to destroy Hillary's campaign and is upset over it... Somehow I don't think Obama is driving that bus that hard.
http://tinyurl.com/ofbwd6c
Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:11 AM (0eidE)

I firmly believe Team Obama controls the outcome of the Hillery investigations, and therefore, her fate as a Presidential candidate.

Crowley gets two things wrong though: It's not about controlling his legacy, it's almost certainly more about controlling the possible investigations and prosecutions that come from either a Republican or someone who hates them as much as Team Hillery.

Second, she acts like Obama himself drives this stuff. Which, if anyone is paying attention, of course is silly. She quotes something about him saying he gets his info on his Admin's scandals from the news, and that he rarely watches the news. As if that's a contradiction.

It's not a contradiction if THAT guy, the one occupying the chair, isn't the bus driver. He's a passenger. He's been telling people that ever since he was elected, and nobody wants to take his word for it. We want to assume some mythical power HE has, to be both above the fray, and not interested in the fray, and somehow controlling the fray.

He's a figurehead. I don't know how many different ways to say that. The brains of the operation is that rotten little troll, Valjar. Always has been.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (Dj0WE)

186 Eh. Can't go to clinic this AM because the street is blocked off - becoz of a mass shooting where 7 people got shot, 3 died. *sigh* Life in the medium-sized city...

Posted by: Bigby's Counting Fingers at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (3ZtZW)

187 The coppers will never take me alive! hahahaha!!

Oh, shit.

Posted by: Stabilized Perp at August 20, 2015 08:23 AM (JO9+V)

188 146 132 You can get the on demand printers to pop out an hardcover book for about $20
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 07:57 AM (LXJ1e)

What about the time and effort to write and edit it? I know, I know. Stop laughing. But putting aside the putative value of the content, authors don't do this for free.

But, the professoriate? Pfft. I could care less (except for wifey).
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 20, 2015 08:04 AM (St6BJ)

I'm thinking of the calculus book. Also many of these books are just revisions of previous books. Again $350 is a rip off.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 20, 2015 08:23 AM (LXJ1e)

189 "Any word on the shooting? Was it legit like Michael Brown's?"

I believe that the Relief Shot was fired after the Perp opened fire at the Officers with a handgun.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:15 AM (VPLuQ)

But no doubt MSNBC will show a picture of the yoot in his Bar Mitzvah Suit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 20, 2015 08:24 AM (gf8BH)

190 18 yr old, armed with a gat, shot killed while two officers were serving a search warrant on a home.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:17 AM

A "gat?" You sure it wasn't a "rod", "roscoe" or "piece"? I doubt teh dude could have gotten his mitts on a Chicago Typewriter, anyway....

The colorful verbiage is why I pay the Big Spondulix to come to the HQ!

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 20, 2015 08:24 AM (0atQl)

191 Ahhh. That the "MannMan...uh...Man" above?

Mansur Ball-Bey.
4 gats and crack found at the home.
Nice. 59 degrees in St. Louis.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:24 AM (LImvu)

192 MFM says high capacity magazines are the cause of DC's spike in murders. Got nothing to do with the fact that DC is a gun free zone.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 20, 2015 08:21 AM (ee9LE)

Sounds like another lie they're telling instead of focusing on the real problem. I guess we know that black lives don't matter to MFM.

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:25 AM (0eidE)

193 The thing about physics, calc, chem books is that they are essentially the same book from semester to semester as you all surmise. But they apply a random tweak to all the problems at the end of the chapter. Some time mixing the order or better yet subtle changes to the parameters.

So if you use an outdated book you'll always get the answers wrong. Profs are encouraged to assign off the newest additions . The way around this was to have friends that go in on one addition of the new and everyone else buys a few semester old at a used campus book store or now a days online. Split among 10 people it is not too bad.

Posted by: BananaDream at August 20, 2015 08:25 AM (vLk7c)

194 184 the gun the perp had was stolen from Rolla, MO.
Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (0eidE)

"None of this would have happened if we had laws against stealing guns and trying to shoot police." -Average Libtard

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 08:25 AM (ueOgE)

195 I'm seeing the news saying he just point the gun at the officers, which is pretty much the same as shooting and that the gun the perp had was stolen from Rolla, MO.
Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (0eidE)

From Rolla? In that case, he was probably a disgruntled grad student who lost his health coverage when the mean university stopped paying for these deadbeats to live off the state's teet.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2015 08:25 AM (Dj0WE)

196 Gorgis to the dump. Corgis to the dump.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2015 08:26 AM (659DL)

197 A nine-year-old girl has been shot dead in Missouri as she lay doing her homework on her mom's bed.Jamyla Bolden, of Ferguson, was killed on Tuesday after a gunman opened fire on the family's home.
http://tinyurl.com/of668j3
This little girl should be starting a new school year but a homicidal thug killed her.
Seriously , I blame #BLM.They are just latest in a long line of excuse-making a**holes who refuse to acknowledge their responsibility for cultural acceptance of murder and pain.
Yeah blame Whitey. Racism is easy.
Meanwhile this pretty little girl, Jamyla Bolden, never gets to grow up.

F you BLM.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 08:26 AM (HJqXj)

198 Denver Post reports Platte River server company denies having Hillary's server in Colorado, let alone in the bathroom. Crisis communications expert doing the spin for them.

http://tinyurl.com/nlk2guy

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 20, 2015 08:27 AM (NeFrd)

199 MFM says high capacity magazines are the cause of DC's spike in murders. Got nothing to do with the fact that DC is a gun free zone.

One shot - splashed one perp. Yet hi-cap mags are to blame.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2015 08:27 AM (LImvu)

200 "From Rolla? I"

Do they have any CBF's there?

Maybe a monument to a Confederate General?

Looking for a root cause here...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2015 08:27 AM (VPLuQ)

201 Mr. Sharpton your Embraer Phenom 100 is ready for your flight to St. Louis.

Posted by: Colin at August 20, 2015 08:28 AM (vIeIs)

202 "A "gat?" You sure it wasn't a "rod", "roscoe" or "piece"? "

Heater. Hot Leg. Smoke Wagon.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2015 08:28 AM (JT11m)

203 Try #2 - my lovely essay on the morning light apparently never got posted.

There seem to be a lot of AT&T IP#s that don't get through on AoSHQ.

Morning, Glories! Again.

Posted by: mindful webworker - yeah, but you at August 20, 2015 08:29 AM (vDbXI)

204 196 Gorgis to the dump. Corgis to the dump.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 20, 2015 08:26 AM (659DL)

"A dump? Why not, time to go check the server anyway." --Al Bundy

Posted by: Agent J at August 20, 2015 08:29 AM (ueOgE)

205 I firmly believe Team Obama controls the outcome of the Hillery investigations, and therefore, her fate as a Presidential candidate.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2015 08:22 AM (Dj0WE)

I think you and Monica agree on this and this is why she is upset. It's disgusting to me how true this is, because it should not be.

Posted by: Draki at August 20, 2015 08:30 AM (0eidE)

206 Eh. Can't go to clinic this AM because the street is blocked off - becoz
of a mass shooting where 7 people got shot, 3 died. *sigh* Life in the
medium-sized city...

If no white cops involved, its not a Black Lives Matter! concern...

Posted by: Colin at August 20, 2015 08:32 AM (vIeIs)

207 Does any company actually compete with TI for
these things? I am headed to Amazon in a few minutes to check in the
'used' section.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 20, 2015 07:50 AM (HJqXj)

Casio made a very good and cheaper graphing calculator a while back, I wrote some pretty sophisticated (for the time) engineering programs for them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2015 08:33 AM (ftVQq)

208 All school must have a copy of the text book in the library. Itl be in the reference area. I had a roommate that for his lesser subjects that did not use the text book that much would head over to the library and do the work there.

Posted by: Picric at August 20, 2015 08:35 AM (QnQ+g)

209 In the valJar/Bammer vs. Hillary war there has to be something that the Bammer camp has on Hillary that is concrete and spectacularly worse or I would think Hillary would of already retaliated.

When all hope for being queen is lost I think we will see fireworks. The Bammer camp has to know this but have decided a preemptive strike is necessary before she obtained more power.

This whole stalin - trotsky thing will be interesting to see play out. Maybe we'll get a short glimpse at who's pulling the strings.

Posted by: BananaDream at August 20, 2015 08:39 AM (vLk7c)

210 @144

The head Ewok loves to expound on tribal theory, in and out groups, etc

Think of everything in terms of a Venn diagram and you will understand the machinations and motivations of most people.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 20, 2015 08:43 AM (mysAS)

211 Any light bulbs coming on out there?

Posted by: teej who wants a lab puppy at August 20, 2015 07:57 AM (IG9gl)

**resigned shrug**

I've already dropped neo-neocon from by blog roll because of her smugly insufferable commenters regarding Trump Trash. I'm going to try to keep as much radio silence on Ace / coblogs / guest political posts as reasonable. I've come to depends on this place to blow off steam and get a virtual pat on the shoulder. I really can't afford to drop the HQ.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 20, 2015 08:51 AM (zF6Iw)

212 the valJar/Bammer vs. Hillary war there has to be something that the Bammer camp has on Hillary that is concrete and spectacularly worse or I would think Hillary would of already retaliated.

***

This whole stalin - trotsky thing will be interesting to see play out. Maybe we'll get a short glimpse at who's pulling the strings.

Posted by: BananaDream at August 20, 2015 08:39 AM (vLk7c)

I want both to have icepicks into their heads.

Posted by: RickZ at August 20, 2015 08:57 AM (HEtQ3)

213 88 11
I can eat fifty eggs.

Me, too!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 20, 2015 09:11 AM (7eQGn)

214 We really should have somebody who has Vic's phone number or some other-than-here way to contact him. He seems to be taking more days off lately, which I hope is good for him, but I'd hate for him to just, y'know, not show up again?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Solidarity! at August 20, 2015 09:17 AM (vDbXI)

215 22 Has much changed in Calculus in the last hundred years or so?

Meh. Not so much. The subject has its limits.

Dead thread. I know. But couldn't resist.

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