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Autumn sunsets are the best!
Posted by: Bruce at August 07, 2015 09:21 AM (8ikIW) Posted by: AltonJackson at August 07, 2015 09:21 AM (ZQfW9) 3
That's one pissed-off kitteh.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:21 AM (/kI1Q) 4
A 100 years later, 100s of guys prancing around in speedos on the Russian River... Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 07, 2015 09:23 AM (iQIUe) 5
Go Carly!
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 07, 2015 09:24 AM (VcOqI) 6
Twilight of the American dream?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 09:24 AM (NOIQH) 7
Ents and Orcs lurking out there.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:24 AM (0FSuD) 8
I thought I was pithy last thread but I happened to post at the moment when someone who is unaware that a prominent journalist is also the son of one of the most prominent journalists of the last century and turned it into a Talmudic debate. So... Trump was a Bhuddist monk in Saigon dousing himself with gasoline and setting himself on fire in the public square. Posted by: Bandersnatch, team Lefty and Scamp at August 07, 2015 09:24 AM (JtwS4) 9
William Keith? Bah, Elmer Keith was a real artist!
Posted by: Chupacabras at August 07, 2015 09:25 AM (CGjum) 10
SERENITY NOW!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 09:25 AM (evdj2) 11
Kind of Maxfield Parish sky there... Posted by: OG Celtic-American at August 07, 2015 09:25 AM (LVG/7) 12
Looks like a little hobbit in that tree on the left. Look out, shit is going to get real!
http://tinyurl.com/ovrhyyc Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:27 AM (0FSuD) 13
Eh? Toby Keith is dead?
Posted by: Old Man Jenkins at August 07, 2015 09:27 AM (cWed3) 14
Vanilla Sky.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 07, 2015 09:27 AM (VcOqI) 15
What kitty where
Posted by: SarahW at August 07, 2015 09:27 AM (3fTXW) 16
I think the one deer is about to rape the other deer.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 07, 2015 09:28 AM (AkOaV) 17
Did Keith always sign the dates on his painting using sunglasses smiley faces?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2015 09:28 AM (JjpIc) 18
Needs moar hobbits.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 09:29 AM (oVJmc) 19
"William Keith? Bah, Elmer Keith was a real artist!"
What that painting needs is a curmudgeonly father figure. Posted by: Brian Keith at August 07, 2015 09:29 AM (u5gzz) 20
Oh look, Bill Keith went to the paint store and bought orange.
Or burnt sienna, or whatever. Orange. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:29 AM (TOk1P) 21
We'd better get going. They come out at night, mostly.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2015 09:29 AM (JO9+V) Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 07, 2015 09:30 AM (ee9LE) 23
This painting is filled with micro-aggressions
Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:30 AM (eOpVe) Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 07, 2015 09:30 AM (mf5HN) 25
Eh? Toby Keith is dead?
Posted by: Old Man Jenkins at August 07, 2015 09:27 AM (cWed3) He was in the car with Jeff Goldblum. It's very sad. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:30 AM (TOk1P) 26
He didn't turn it into a Talmudic debate
Sadeyesteve thought it was sneaky to name a Jew Christopher and implied only Jewish journalists had it in for Trump Completely ignoring that most the attacks came from Megyn Kelly And then Nip chimed in with his vast expertise on Jewish thought Posted by: ThunderB at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (zOTsN) 27
MSM will no doubt be all over this story:
http://tinyurl.com/nwbuew3 Column by Daniel Greenfield - Muslims burning Jews alive. Posted by: Semper In Stercus at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (BZAd3) 28
Bob Ross killed William Keith in a bar fight with a palette knife.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (oVJmc) Posted by: Abe Vigoda at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (u5gzz) 30
Isn't Putin bare chested somewhere in the picture...
Posted by: Colin at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (DKaUe) 31
future site of the Bohemian Grove
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (F+xWX) 32
Wow!
They say the smoke particles and volcanic aerosols are the reason we have such beautiful sunsets! Posted by: 8) was a very good year for sunsets Guy at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (+TK8j) 33
Why are we seeing pictures of foreign rivers? Don't we have good rivers here in the US?
Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 09:31 AM (LAe3v) Posted by: Semper In Stercus at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (BZAd3) 35
Russian Sunset (or what half the horde had for breakfast)
2 oz vodka (or 6oz YMMV) 2 oz triple sec 4 oz sweet and sour mix 1 dash grenadine syrup Mix vodka, triple sec, and sour mix in a shaker with ice. Strain into a chilled collins glass, add a dash of grenadine to the top, and swirl slightly. Garnish with a cherry and an orange slice if desired, and serve. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (fWAjv) 36
That's my Grandpa!
Posted by: Brian Keith at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (JO9+V) Posted by: 8) was a very good year for sunsets Guy at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (+TK8j) 38
love todays landscape
Posted by: MTF at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (TxJGV) 39
Owls! Posted by: OG Celtic-American at August 07, 2015 09:32 AM (LVG/7) 40
Russian Sunset (or what half the horde had for breakfast)
That feels like a lot of work for breakfast. Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (/kI1Q) Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (eOpVe) 42
So. Trump was Trump with predictable results, Fiorina continues to look better with time, Cruz was solid, Graham was a douche, Jeb sucks, Rand's grenade nearly went off, and I still have no clue why half these people are running.
That's my take, for what it's worth. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (2l5vw) 43
So Putin has tested a new Tsar Bomba?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (jZGKQ) 44
That feels like a lot of work for breakfast.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (/kI1Q) Make the night before. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (fWAjv) Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (oVJmc) 46
Have a great day, Horde!
Num 6,24-6 Posted by: Benediction Guy at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (+TK8j) 47
and I still have no clue why half these people are running.
Book deals, media deals, leftover war chest. It's lucrative. Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (/kI1Q) 48
And then Nip chimed in with his vast expertise on Jewish thought I know. I only used the phrase Talmudic debate as a way to not say the thread went all JOOOO!! and Nip went all Nip. But of course that's what happened. Posted by: Bandersnatch, team Lefty and Scamp at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (JtwS4) 49
Oh Empress, some Godzilla - http://www.nippon.com/en/views/b04001/
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (jZGKQ) Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (0FSuD) Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (2l5vw) 52
>>>Why are we seeing pictures of foreign rivers? Don't we have good rivers here in the US?
Not since Joan died. Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (ppaKI) 53
Bob Ross killed William Keith in a bar fight with a palette knife.
Death by impasto! Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (JjpIc) 54
Pic didn't come up on my tab. But a commie river comrade? Really?
Posted by: badda with no bing at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (/Vs1e) Posted by: Miss Lindsey Grahamnesty at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (OiFtZ) 56
I watched 1/2 of it with the sound off.
Really brought out their hairstyles, poor tie choices, hand movements, and odd skin tones. Looked like Dress Up Day at the Home for Misfit Toys... Posted by: OG Celtic-American at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (LVG/7) 57
A list of people Abe Vigoda has outlived would be amazing.
He was bitten by a radioactive cockroach.... Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (eOpVe) 58
The Russian River. Home of America's finest pinot noirs.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (YqcVw) 59
Here's your happy little tree, mortarforker!
Posted by: Zombie Bob Ross at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (evdj2) 60
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:36 AM (kff5f) 61
Heh. That painting is actually of the Russian River in California.
So screw those commie bastards. That's an American sunset!!! Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:36 AM (fWAjv) Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (ee9LE) 63
The sun setting is a clear metaphor for the extinguishing of all joy and hope in the lives of all wymyn, who have all been raped by evil penis monsters.
Posted by: Feminist art critic at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (2Ojst) 64
And it's actually the Rushin' River just like the "picketwire" is actually Purgatoire.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (JjpIc) 65
thanks, Benediction Guy
Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (eOpVe) 66
I went to a wedding where the couple just happened to be gay, but I was drunk.
Posted by: John Kasich at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (u5gzz) Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 07, 2015 09:37 AM (F+xWX) 68
Oh Empress, some Godzilla - http://www.nippon.com/en/views/b04001/
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:34 AM (jZGKQ) RRRWWWAAARRRR Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (mf5HN) Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (LAe3v) 70
Mr. Keith, you've used a disproportionately small amount of pink in your sunset painting. How do you expect your work to appeal to women with such heavy emphasis on microaggression?
Posted by: Megyn Kelly #FairNBalanced at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (1CroS) 71
Looks like those deer in the front are going to be having a little PIV soon.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (0FSuD) 72
Not since Joan died.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 07, 2015 09:35 AM (ppaKI) Mooch is a tranny. Loved it. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (fWAjv) 73
"...wymyn, who have all been raped by evil penis monsters."
Penis Monster will be a Sesame Street Puppet this fall... Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:38 AM (eOpVe) Posted by: Bruce at August 07, 2015 09:39 AM (8ikIW) 75
I worked hard to compose the best questions for each candidate, and showed no favoritism to JEB or dislike for Trump. It was Fair and Balanced according to my standards, and I look forward to moderating additional debates in the future. PS Thanks JEB! Posted by: Megyn Kelly at August 07, 2015 09:39 AM (OiFtZ) 76
The Russian River is supposed to have excellent steelhead fishing. I hope to fish it some day. Steelhead are the anadromous (sea-run) version of rainbow trout. I have strong opinions on the reclassification of rainbows from salmo to oncorhynchus. Posted by: Bandersnatch, team Lefty and Scamp at August 07, 2015 09:39 AM (JtwS4) 77
In before Penis Monsters open for Pussy Riot at The Venue!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 09:39 AM (evdj2) Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 07, 2015 09:39 AM (F+xWX) Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 09:40 AM (OGm46) 80
SERENITY NOW!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 09:25 AM (evdj2) That's a good idea. Of course, my kids are home and I think they'd be freaked out by the Reavers... Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:40 AM (kff5f) 81
Prelude to The 1908 Tunguska SMOD.
One of my shrill, ultra-liberal coworkers on the @GOP debate: Total Cluster-Fuck, although that Kasich seems somewhat tolerable. There you go, America. Mr. Electability, as long as he takes his meds. Posted by: @PeeteySDee at August 07, 2015 09:40 AM (B77dy) 82
Huh, russian river, always in a hurry,
Posted by: Bruce at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (8ikIW) 83
I shall rename this painting "3:00 AM at Tel Aviv". Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (8XRCm) 84
My take on who hade the best debate (lol) last night. Disclaimer, my opinion and only my opinion. Your mileage may vary:
Helped themselves: Cruz Carson Huckabee Didn't move the needle: Rubio Trump Walker Bush Kasich Shot themselves in the foot: Christie Paul Posted by: wrg500 at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (C278+) 85
The river takes its current name from the Russian Ivan Aleksandrovich Kuskov of the Russian-American Company, who explored the river in the early 19th century and established the Fort Ross colony 10 mi (16 km) northwest of its mouth. They called it the Slavyanka River, meaning 'Slav River.' The Russians established three ranches near Fort Ross, one of which - the Kostromitinov Ranch - was along the Russian River near the mouth of Willow Creek. The redwoods that lined its banks drew loggers to the river in the late 19th century.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (fWAjv) 86
Clearly, with the art posted here, what is seen is in the eye of the beholding commenters.
So, why do y'all keep seeing the same dang thing in every painting? As if every landscape had a sniper! (He's behind the twisted tree on the left.) Posted by: mindful webworker - the art of at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (5t9V6) 87
~
Megyn "President Bush...I mean, Govern Bush...." Jeb "Don't worry...happens allll the time" Megyn "Govern Bush, Your love of puppies and kitties is legend, how do you do it?" Jeb "I have Jesus' phone number on speed dial and he has supper at my house on Wednesday night" Megyn "Mr Trump(spit) you kill every puppy you see, why?" Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:42 AM (eOpVe) 88
Chernobyl: The Day After
Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 07, 2015 09:42 AM (ppaKI) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:42 AM (kff5f) 90
John Kasich: I went to a wedding where the couple just happened to be gay, but I was drunk.
I know the punchline to this one! But in the morning, I was sober, and they were still gay. Right? MMmmmm Posted by: mindful webworker - hmmm at August 07, 2015 09:43 AM (5t9V6) 91
As if every landscape had a sniper! (He's behind the twisted tree on the left.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - the art of All is see is illegals with leaf blowers doing the work that I won't do. Posted by: Bruce at August 07, 2015 09:43 AM (8ikIW) 92
Para bailar Tsar Obama!
Para bailar Tsar Obama! Se necessita una poca de gracia Una poca de gracia Posted by: zombie richie valens at August 07, 2015 09:43 AM (JjpIc) 93
Para bailar Tsar Obama!
Para bailar Tsar Obama! Se necessita una poca de gracia Una poca de gracia Oh! I know this one! Heeeeey Macarena! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (kff5f) Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (mf5HN) 95
@84
Obviously you did not see Carly's job, she won both debates and was only in one of them. I thought Kasich, who I do NOT like, helped himself. I don't see how Cruz did and I think Rubio moves up a bit. Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (0FSuD) 96
When Paul mentioned Christie put his arm around Obama walking on the beach, Christie puffed up like a manatee but held his tongue to avoid making it worse. Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (OiFtZ) Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (zF6Iw) 98
As if every landscape had a sniper! (He's behind the twisted tree on the left.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - the art of at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (5t9V6) That's a decoy. Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:45 AM (2Ojst) 99
Schumy won't vote for the Farsi Farce, but he knows there will be enough votes for it to survive.
Even if it didn't Obozo would act like it did anyway. Posted by: Hank at August 07, 2015 09:45 AM (N0Gml) 100
I think Trump/Jindal would be a good combo for the ticket.
Regarding the vote Republican pledge, yeah, if Jeb is the nominee I won't vote, so I can't fault Trump for running as an independent. Posted by: Ken at August 07, 2015 09:45 AM (LXJ1e) 101
It's one of the two universal truths:
Every troll is Average Joe, who sucks cock by choice. Every painting hides a sniper and/or kitteh. Posted by: Chupacabras at August 07, 2015 09:45 AM (CGjum) 102
I was criticized the other day. The insult was:
"Well at least we know you aren't an AI." My question was, "Why?" The answer was: "AI are self aware." Posted by: Kindltot at August 07, 2015 09:46 AM (3pRHP) 103
Oh! I know this one!
Heeeeey Macarena! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (kff5f) Mmmbop, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba duba dop Ba du, yeah Mmmbop, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba du dop Ba du bop, ba du dop Ba du, yeah Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (fWAjv) Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (OiFtZ) Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (df+1i) 106
The first few moments after the Iranian nuke detonation and before the blast wave hit.
Posted by: Some random meathead at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (Yrjee) 107
Carly, because it is time for a woman to be president...and because she is kick ass ...
Posted by: Mr Wizard at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (eOpVe) 108
Ugh, I have to leave the best part of Massachusetts, Cape Cod, and head to one of the shittiest, Worcester, in a couple hours. Gonna make it quick, see as many friends/family members as possible in 48 hours and then zip back down for another 4 days before heading back to NC. I was just texting with a Worcester friend as she was out getting coffee and she was counting the dirty needles she passed on the 2 block walk to Dunkin Donuts. Three, which she tells me is a bit below the daily average.
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (dgfje) 109
Cruz was solid, Graham was a douche, Jeb sucks,
Rand's grenade nearly went off, and I still have no clue why half these people are running. That's my take, for what it's worth. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 09:33 AM (2l5vw) Cruz used the C-word ("conservative") several times. I'm surprise nobody said "cut off his mike!" But they did the next best thing, they stopped asking him questions, except things like "how delusional are you when it comes to the God stuff?" Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (TOk1P) 110
Schumy won't vote for the Farsi Farce, but he knows there will be enough votes for it to survive.
Yep. Corkered again. Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (evdj2) 111
Pretty early in the morning for soothing, stress-relieving art. Is it going to be one of those days?
Posted by: rickl at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (zoehZ) 112
94 Everyone saw Carly manatee flamethrow Chris Matthews, right? Right.
http://bit.ly/1UsVcyg Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (mf5HN) Great. Now I have "Barbara Manatee" stuck in my head. Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (2Ojst) 113
>>Everyone saw Carly manatee flamethrow Chris Matthews, right?
NICE!! Chrissie such a whiny little turd "Why won't you answer my slanderous gotcha question?" *stomps feet* Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (NOIQH) 114
99 Schumy won't vote for the Farsi Farce, but he knows there will be enough votes for it to survive.
Exactly. Nothing but political theater. The "tell" is that Screwmer gave his lapdog Gillibrand the go-ahead to vote for it. Screwmer knows it will pass, and he wants it to pass. His anti-vote is for appearances only, for his Jewish constituents. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (7ObY1) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (kff5f) 116
John Kasich kinda reminds me of General Tito - Yugoslavian dictator
Posted by: Ken at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (LXJ1e) 117
Speaking if Carly, since when is calling someone a liar, when they were caught, objectively lying, problematic?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (78TbK) 118
But they did the next best thing, they stopped asking him questions, except things like "how delusional are you when it comes to the God stuff?"
---- Yeah.... I was a little pissed at the "does the voice of God tell you what to do" question. Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (8XRCm) 119
Great. Now I have "Barbara Manatee" stuck in my head.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (2Ojst) You might have trouble dancing. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (kff5f) 120
"how delusional are you when it comes to the God stuff?"
Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (TOk1P) Knocked it out of the park with that one though. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (fWAjv) 121
I still have no clue why half these
people are running. It's like auditioning to be Captain of the Titanic when you already know the outcome. Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (O7MnT) 122
Chupacabras: Every painting hides a sniper and/or kitteh.
Or both. Then Waldo took the bullet for the kitteh. Posted by: mindful webworker - where's cecil? at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (5t9V6) 123
Ugh, I have to leave the best part of Massachusetts, Cape Cod, and head to one of the shittiest, Worcester, in a couple hours.
You should be happy to get out of there. TFG, his pet Wookie, Malaria and Sushi are on their way for a "well-earned vacation." Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (zF6Iw) 124
Speaking if Carly, since when is calling someone a liar, when they were caught, objectively lying, problematic?
When the person doing the calling is a Republican and the person being called is a Democrat. Duh. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (kff5f) Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (jZGKQ) 126
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:44 AM (0FSuD)
Your right I have read or watch anything from the first debate so I have nothing to base any thoughts out for her or anyone performance, but I do like her. In the sense that Kasich took the wind from Jeb's sails yea he had a good debate, but I wasn't sold or happy with his answers. Posted by: wrg500 at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (C278+) 127
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The biggest loser in the debate? Fox News! Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 07, 2015 09:47 AM (OiFtZ) Not according to all our liberal friends at the NY Slime. They loved the Republican bashing by the home team. Posted by: Nip Sip at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (0FSuD) 128
Ack, you should have warned us it was a link to Daily Caller.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (2Ojst) 129
>>Speaking if Carly, since when is calling someone a liar, when they were caught, objectively lying, problematic?
We're supposed to use cutesy euphemisms - she "misspoke" "was not entirely forthcoming" etc. Oh, only applies to Dems. Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (NOIQH) 130
Great. Now I have "Barbara Manatee" stuck in my head.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:48 AM (2Ojst) --- Lucky you. Thanks to AllenG..... I hear Blue Oyster Cult singing "Dont Fear the Reavers" in my noggin. Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (8XRCm) 131
I was just texting with a Worcester friend as she was out getting coffee
and she was counting the dirty needles she passed on the 2 block walk to Dunkin Donuts. Three, which she tells me is a bit below the daily average. ___ Those are diversity needles. Posted by: Deval Patrick at August 07, 2015 09:51 AM (78TbK) 132
You might have trouble dancing.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:49 AM (kff5f) I wasn't going to the ball anyway. Plus I don't speak French. Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:51 AM (2Ojst) 133
Carly or any other woman can never be president because the bath off the Oval Office only has a urinal. Unless she can urinate standing up? Yes, country girls have perfected this technique to avoid squatting in the grass to avoid spiders, snakes, ants, and honey badgers. Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (OiFtZ) 134
Thanks to AllenG..... I hear Blue Oyster Cult singing "Dont Fear the Reavers" in my noggin.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (8XRCm) Meh. Needs more cowbell. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (kff5f) 135
I hear BOC has released a new song. Something about Megyn has got to go.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (jZGKQ) 136
>>The shadowy Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani recently visited Moscow to meet with senior Russian leader according to two Western intelligence sources despite a travel ban and U.N. Security Council resolutions barring him from leaving Iran
http://tinyurl.com/nh73p7v Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (OGm46) 137
Fox is taking hits on the debate format and moderation both. Megyn Kelly has a whole new raft of Trump-enemies.
Pretty interesting reading internet reactions at sites around both libtard and conservative sites, considering I didn't see either of the debates. No one even mentions Jebbie- was he talking or just hanging out along the wall? Posted by: MTF at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (TxJGV) 138
134 Thanks to AllenG..... I hear Blue Oyster Cult singing "Dont Fear the Reavers" in my noggin.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (8XRCm) Meh. Needs more cowbell. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (kff5f) I want you to explore the space! Posted by: Yes, THAT Brucie Dickinson at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (2Ojst) 139
I hear BOC has released a new song. Something about Megyn has got to go.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (jZGKQ) Oh! No! Megyn's got to go! Go, go Godzilla! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (kff5f) 140
But in the morning, I was sober, and they were still gay.
Right? MMmmmm Posted by: mindful webworker - hmmm at August 07, 2015 09:43 AM (5t9V6) Kasich seems to have decided to try and rope two demographics: gay Republicans who like weepy, wimpy heteros, and people who don't know jack about what he's doing to Ohio. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (TOk1P) 141
*toot*
Posted by: Dang at August 07, 2015 09:54 AM (2oWD2) Posted by: Chupacabras at August 07, 2015 09:54 AM (CGjum) 143
Kasich seems to have decided to try and rope two demographics: gay Republicans who like weepy, wimpy heteros, and people who don't know jack about what he's doing to Ohio.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (TOk1P) Based solely on reaction here, I suspect he's only going to get the overlap between those groups. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:54 AM (kff5f) 144
No one even mentions Jebbie- was he talking or just hanging out along the wall?
Posted by: MTF at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (TxJGV) Pretty much just hanging out. But yeah, it was Faux Nooz's night to attack Trump, so Jeb! probably was wondering what he was even doing there. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (TOk1P) 145
I've been coming here a lot longer than the Obamas, and will still be coming long after they're gone. If anyone should make way, it's them.
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (dgfje) 146
The second-tier debate was a lot better than the top one.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (oVJmc) 147
Carly or any other woman can never be president because the bath off the Oval Office only has a urinal. Unless she can urinate standing up? There's an app for that. Well not an app so much as a disposible funnel. They sell them at the Fair.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (81UWZ) 148
Wasn't Fiorinas tenure at HP sorta...less than stellar?
I know she dumped a bunch of American workers in favor of their cheap third world replacements. Other wise she is another GOP shill singing the Conservatives favorite fight songs, on her new album "Elect Me , So I Can Outsource Your Ass". Just not feeling her. Posted by: Some random meathead at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (9QUPT) 149
139 I hear BOC has released a new song. Something about Megyn has got to go.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2015 09:52 AM (jZGKQ) Oh! No! Megyn's got to go! Go, go Godzilla! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (kff5f) With a purposeful grimace and her bleach-blond hair She slings out questions to Trump that just aren't fair Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (2Ojst) 150
There were so many candidates that when they went back to some, I had forgotten that they were there.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (evdj2) 151
Lindsey Graham was wearing silk panties. It's true.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 07, 2015 09:56 AM (VcOqI) 152
What about Jim Gilmore?.................................................
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 07, 2015 09:56 AM (VcOqI) 153
Well not an app so much as a disposible funnel. They sell them at the Fair.
You can get plastic doohickeys at outdoors stores, too. (You go sit on a pit toilet in Wisconsin in January before you judge me.) Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:56 AM (/kI1Q) 154
read the last 20 or so comments last thread and you guys were talking about Wisconsin liberals etc
My take is most of the state is solid blue collar union types who probably reflexively vote dem for that reason, plus arm twisting from union bosses, likely. it's the first place I've ever seen any union hall referred to as a Temple of Labor as well, which might come from the old Knights of Labor folks... ... then there's Madison. finally visited there yesterday. Nice clean very Red in the old commie sense. good food, terrible driving. the guy we were hanging with was curious about how we viewed the GOP candidates and it was as if I was giving him ice water in a desert, which tells me the degree of conformity there. he, of course, supports Bernie. Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 07, 2015 09:57 AM (F+xWX) 155
Carly or any other woman can never be president
because the bath off the Oval Office only has a urinal. Unless she can urinate standing up? There's an app for that. Well not an app so much as a disposible funnel. They sell them at the Fair. Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (81UWZ) True. And Bill Clinton had a urinal installed, on its knees under the Resolute Desk, so I could see how that might be uncomfortable for her as well. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 09:58 AM (TOk1P) 156
153 Well not an app so much as a disposible funnel. They sell them at the Fair.
You can get plastic doohickeys at outdoors stores, too. (You go sit on a pit toilet in Wisconsin in January before you judge me.) Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 09:56 AM (/kI1Q) Is it like a kitchen funnel, or more like one of those mechanic's funnels they use for oil changes? Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:59 AM (2Ojst) 157
What about Jim Gilmore?
He exceeded his hype, but only because he didn't have any. Sometimes coming in quietly works better. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 10:00 AM (oVJmc) 158
Three, which she tells me is a bit below the daily average.
==== "but one was still stuck in a dead arm so that made up for it!" "no, didn't see any body, just the arm" Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 07, 2015 10:00 AM (F+xWX) 159
OT:
I'd like to find a rotting piece of flesh and staple it to his man-vulva, rescinding his circumcision. Oy, so much for finding a Jewish Doctor. Posted by: DaveA at August 07, 2015 10:00 AM (DL2i+) 160
Obviously you did not see Carly's job, she won both debates and was only in one of them.
I love the way she talks about things. I wish she had a better resume. Posted by: Lea at August 07, 2015 10:00 AM (lIU4e) 161
Oh! No! Megyn's got to go!
Go, go Godzilla! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 09:53 AM (kff5f) With a purposeful grimace and her bleach-blond hair She slings out questions to Trump that just aren't fair Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 09:55 AM (2Ojst) I really do not get all the ooh's and ah's she gets from people. She's had work done. She looks like every other bimbo tv personality and pron star these days. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:01 AM (TOk1P) 162
Was Megyn tough on all the contestants or only on Trump?
Posted by: @votermom at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (cbfNE) Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (evdj2) 164
I really do not get all the ooh's and ah's she gets from people. She's had work done. She looks like every other bimbo tv personality and pron star these days.
Yeah. She's teh hawt. I'd say you get it, then. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (kff5f) 165
Wow,
Early overnight Nielsen ratings suggest that Thursday's Republican debate was not just the most-watched primary debate in history it may have been twice as big as the previous record-holder. The debate on Fox News had a 16.0 household rating between 9 p.m. and 11 p.m., according to Nielsen Posted by: wrg500 at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (C278+) 166
Hey fellas, I've won the county fair pissing contest on many an occasion by going up against the big dick men. I can stream about three feet further than the guys, and always come home with the trophy, and that's without sporting a dick. Posted by: Carly Fiorina at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (OiFtZ) 167
I really do not get all the ooh's and ah's she
gets from people. She's had work done. She looks like every other bimbo tv personality and pron star these days. Yeah. She's teh hawt. I'd say you get it, then. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (kff5f) Sure, but if you just want to ogle some broad, why put up with the irritating condescension? Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:03 AM (TOk1P) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (kff5f) 169
I've been an early Carly Fiorina supporter, but I'm seeing a little weakness now. On Glenn Beck and in the transcript of her Hillary liar comment, she backtracked that Hillary has lied about some things, not everything, and she's not attacking her personally, etc.
I want someone who calls Hillary a lying liar who lies. Repulsive, unreformable liar. And a crook. Posted by: Old Hob at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (FFIoe) 170
Early overnight Nielsen ratings suggest that Thursday's Republican
debate was not just the most-watched primary debate in history it may have been twice as big as the previous record-holder. Trump factor. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (oVJmc) 171
Nielsen ratings suggest that Thursday's Republican debate was not just the most-watched primary debate in history it may have been twice as big as the previous record-holder.
You're welcome. Posted by: Donald Trump's Hair-Pelt at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (O7MnT) 172
The hell with Megyn. I like the chunkier gals on the Weather Channel. They give me a warm front and high pressure system every time.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (VcOqI) 173
Wasn't Fiorinas tenure at HP sorta...less than stellar? If you have time watch the clip of her on Morning Joe this morning. She knocked the HP question out of the park. That girl kicks ass and is proud of it. Posted by: Bandersnatch, team Lefty and Scamp at August 07, 2015 10:04 AM (JtwS4) 174
As if every landscape had a sniper! (He's behind the twisted tree on the left.) Posted by: mindful webworker - the art of at August 07, 2015 09:41 AM (5t9V6) Decoys. Gotta love 'em. Posted by: The Sniper behind the Rock on the right at August 07, 2015 10:05 AM (JbaZF) 175
Sure, but if you just want to ogle some broad, why put up with the irritating condescension?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:03 AM (TOk1P) The mute button is your friend. More seriously, though, I've seen her plenty of times when her ire was directed at someone appropriate, and she wields it quite well. I skipped the "debate" yesterday, so I'm just riffing off comments. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:05 AM (kff5f) 176
She's had work done.
Work well done. Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 10:02 AM (evdj2) Seriously, the pinching of the nose that's the same as what the popular strippers and pron stars get is not all that appealing. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (TOk1P) 177
Wow, apparently, Trump is making a total ass of himself on twitter.
Posted by: maddogg at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (xWW96) 178
Donald Trump was a real asshole at the debate, and mentioning my name didn't improve his position. Instead of talking about why fire cannot melt steel, he decides to concentrate on slamming me. The Donald is a prick. Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (OiFtZ) 179
Podcast.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (oVJmc) 180
Fox is taking hits on the debate format and moderation both. Megyn Kelly has a whole new raft of Trump-enemies.
Unlike many here, I've never been a big fan. She's good-looking, although a bit to, I don't know, harsh, for my tastes, and certainly smart. But she always seems to think it's about her. It's clear the success has gone to her head. Bret Baier is much better at making the interviewee the center of attention. That said, other than her initial question to Trump, I didn't find her particularly unfair last night. She went after Trump, but only because he'd invited it by being such a clown and refusing to come even remotely close to an answer for any question he was asked. Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (LAe3v) 181
Carly is the candidate we want.
Trump is the candidate we deserve. Jeb is the candidate we'll be stuck with regardless. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (2l5vw) 182
More seriously, though, I've seen her plenty of times when her ire was directed at someone appropriate, and she wields it quite well. I skipped the "debate" yesterday, so I'm just riffing off comments.
Yea, a fired up Megyn is ah.....sexy hot. Posted by: wrg500 at August 07, 2015 10:06 AM (C278+) 183
The deer in the front of the painting is obviously the sniper. No real deer stands still long enough to get painted.
Posted by: Old Hob at August 07, 2015 10:07 AM (FFIoe) Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 10:07 AM (2l5vw) 185
I didn't watch the debates, but it sounds like the questions left something to be desired.
The best "debate" I've seen in years was the Rick Warren ones where he sat down with Obama and McCain (separately) and spent 1+ hours (I forget the length) and asked the same insightful, interesting questions. Asking gotcha questions may demonstrate how a candidate thinks on their feet, but they can have these types of moments every other day on the campaign trail and in interviews. We need debates, and a more serious media, to engage in discussions of the issues, the candidate values, with enough time given for their response (like a job interview) to get a complete answer (not a news teaser sound bite). *sigh* Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 10:07 AM (NOIQH) 186
Is it like a kitchen funnel, or more like one of those mechanic's funnels they use for oil changes?
I had to Google mechanic funnel...turns out you can actually use those for peeing. Huh. Mine was more like a kitchen funnel with a funky shape and more flexible. Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 07, 2015 10:07 AM (/kI1Q) 187
Thanks to AllenG..... I hear Blue Oyster Cult singing "Dont Fear the Reavers" in my noggin.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 07, 2015 09:50 AM (8XRCm) Heh. Enough cowbell. Needs more Fillion Posted by: Kindltot at August 07, 2015 10:08 AM (3pRHP) 188
What two words would you use to describe the Democratic frontrunner?
PATAKI: Divisive and with no vision. No vision at all. FIORINA: Not trustworthy. No accomplishment. SANTORUM: Secretive and untrustworthy. PERRY: Well, let's go with three. Good at email. JINDAL: Socialist and government dependent. GRAHAM: Not the change we need at a time we need it. GILMORE: Professional politician that can't be trusted. Is Rick Santorum *really* the only one of these idiots who can count to two? Posted by: Donald Trump's Hair-Pelt at August 07, 2015 10:08 AM (O7MnT) 189
I really do not get all the ooh's and ah's she gets
from people. She's had work done. She looks like every other bimbo tv personality and pron star these days. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:01 AM (TOk1P) Please don't go slamming on Mega Chin. She's bucking for that NBC Anchor job. Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 07, 2015 10:09 AM (df+1i) 190
Sock
Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 10:09 AM (O7MnT) 191
I want someone who calls Hillary a lying liar who lies. Repulsive, unreformable liar. And a crook.
Yeah, you do and I do, but LIVs don't. I'm not a Fiorina fan, really - I saw what happened at HP, and even beyond that she has no political experience whatsoever. It's easy to say conservative things, it's much harder to govern conservatively. I think she's good for the field, and makes an excellent foil to Hillary!. But in that "foil to Hillary!" role, she has to be careful to come across as factual. Her statements must be unimpeachable. They're going to get twisted anyway, but if she's solid about making statements backed by fact, she can always do what she did to Matthews - "No, that's not what I said. That's what *you* said." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:09 AM (kff5f) 192
For those worried about Carly's tenure at HP, remember it's always better to look at all the things she did rather than one job. HP was in really bad shape when she took over (it's still only in OK shape), and she was criticized for everything she did by Silicon Valley types. HP has a lot of alumni among the Valley establishment and, once many of those folks became rich and entrepreneurial, they all had opinions on "How To Fix HP". In other words she got crap for everything she did, including how she set up her office. No joke.
Buying Compaq May or may not have been the greatest decision (and it has defenders and attackers) but no one would say she wasn't decisive. And HP still stands today, so some of what she did obviously worked out pretty well. Posted by: MTF at August 07, 2015 10:10 AM (TxJGV) 193
More seriously, though, I've seen her plenty of
times when her ire was directed at someone appropriate, and she wields it quite well. I skipped the "debate" yesterday, so I'm just riffing off comments. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:05 AM (kff5f) Yeah, I know that's the thing people like about her. She's good at it. Honestly, she had Trump on the ropes, and if he were anybody other than Trump, and if his candidacy was anything other than a well-timed protest vote against the Gope, I would say she scored a knockout. But it's not, and she didn't, and all she did was cost her what little credibility she might have with people who are fed up with the Gope, and are casting a crooked eye in Faux Nooz's direction, regarding whether they are anything other than a shill for Gope. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:10 AM (TOk1P) 194
More seriously, though, I've seen her plenty of times when her ire was directed at someone appropriate, and she wields it quite well. I skipped the "debate" yesterday, so I'm just riffing off comments. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:05 AM (kff5f) My take on Megyn has always been that when she's acting as an objective, tough journalist SHOULD, she's magnificent. But when she gets into "gurrrl power mommy" mode, frankly she sucks almost as bad as the average MSNBC dunce. Unfortunately, she's doing that a lot more often of late. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 07, 2015 10:10 AM (JbaZF) 195
What two words would you use to describe the Democratic frontrunner?
PERRY: Well, let's go with three. Good at email. Posted by: Donald Trump's Hair-Pelt at August 07, 2015 10:08 AM (O7MnT) Perry's answer would have been way better as, "Well, let's go with three. Good at...errr....uhhhh...oops" Posted by: mugiwara at August 07, 2015 10:10 AM (D5hxK) 196
Way down upon the Swanee River, Far, far away, There's where my heart is turning ever, There's where the old folks stay. All the world is sad and dreary, Ev'ry where I roam, Oh, darkies how my heart grows weary Far from the old folks at home. All up and down the whole creation, sadly I roam, Still longing for the old plantation, And for the folks at home. All 'round the little farm I wandered when I was young, Than many happy days I squander'd, Many the songs I sung. When I was playing with my brudder, Happy was I, Oh, take me to my kind old mother, There let me live and die. One little hut among the bushes, One that I love, Still sadly to my mem'ry rushes, No matter where I rove. When shall I see the bees a-humming All round the comb? When shall I hear the banjo strumming Down in my good old home?
Posted by: Zombie Stephen Foster at August 07, 2015 10:11 AM (D0NZx) 197
The president won't care about U.S. citizens being held hostage in Iran or anywhere else until they become a big enough voting bloc. With his foreign policies, though, we'll get there soon enough.
Posted by: vivi at August 07, 2015 10:11 AM (/wu0m) 198
Cruz / Carly 2016
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 07, 2015 10:12 AM (p09tx) 199
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:09 AM (kff5f)
Those are some good points. Damn morning people. Posted by: Old Hob at August 07, 2015 10:13 AM (FFIoe) 200
Is Rick Santorum *really* the only one of these idiots who can count to two? I noticed that too. Apparently so. Posted by: Weirddave at August 07, 2015 10:14 AM (aTL6n) 201
Is Rick Santorum *really* the only one of these idiots who can count to two?
You'd especially think Perry would avoid dealing with threes... Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 07, 2015 10:14 AM (2l5vw) 202
Just got off the phone returning $600 worth of wheels to wheelsrims dot net. No hassle, great customer service.
If I'm going to bitch about bad businesses, I'll take the time to praise the good ones. Posted by: jwest at August 07, 2015 10:16 AM (P/xrJ) 203
>>Is Rick Santorum *really* the only one of these idiots who can count to two?
Are you really bothered by that? I don't care if the candidates don't follow the exact directions of some tv twat as long as they answer the question. Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 10:17 AM (OGm46) 204
They merely reject the premise that Hillary's perfidy can be captured in two words.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 07, 2015 10:17 AM (evdj2) 205
Yeah, you do and I do, but LIVs don't.
I'm not a Fiorina fan, really - I saw what happened at HP, and even beyond that she has no political experience whatsoever. It's easy to say conservative things, it's much harder to govern conservatively. I think she's good for the field, and makes an excellent foil to Hillary!. But in that "foil to Hillary!" role, she has to be careful to come across as factual. Her statements must be unimpeachable. They're going to get twisted anyway, but if she's solid about making statements backed by fact, she can always do what she did to Matthews - "No, that's not what I said. That's what *you* said." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:09 AM (kff5f) I've not actually heard her speak. Frankly, I don't see why I would need to. She's a boutique candidate, and like all boutique candidates, they can say stuff because it doesn't matter. Just as Cruz said things last night. He was specific: his first day in office, he's opening criminal investigations into this that and the other. Except, dude, you're not going to be President. Now maybe he was lobbying for AG, in which case, sure. Go ahead. But who's AG? Certainly not Jeb!s. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:17 AM (TOk1P) 206
Are you really bothered by that?
Yeah, a little. I think one of our biggest problems is politicians who think rules don't apply to them. It's a little thing, but it is symbolic of a big thing. Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 10:18 AM (O7MnT) 207
Except, dude, you're not going to be President. Now maybe he was lobbying for AG, in which case, sure. Go ahead. But who's AG? Certainly not Jeb!s.
A- I wouldn't count him out just yet. II- At the moment, at least, Trump is looking far better than Jeb! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f) 208
I'm not a Fiorina fan, really - I saw what happened at HP, and even beyond that she has no political experience whatsoever.
She's going to be vulnerable when the layoffs are brought up. If she promised to downsize the FedGov, the GOP would lose Virginia but pick up some other places. Virginia is, electorally anyway, a DC suburb. So it's probably a lost cause anyway. Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 10:21 AM (O7MnT) 209
A- I wouldn't count him out just yet.
II- At the moment, at least, Trump is looking far better than Jeb! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 07, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f) The reason I count him out is because Gope does NOT want anything to do with conservatives, and as of right now, Gope controls their nomination process. They have Rubio waiting in the wings, should Jeb! fail. They're going to get their nominee. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:21 AM (TOk1P) 210
As of right now, I think Cruz/Fiorina is a winning combination -- each has talents to reinforce each other.
Now, where do I put Walker, Jindal, Paul, and Carson? Posted by: mustbequantum at August 07, 2015 10:23 AM (MIKMs) 211
210 As of right now, I think Cruz/Fiorina is a winning combination -- each has talents to reinforce each other.
Now, where do I put Walker, Jindal, Paul, and Carson? Posted by: mustbequantum at August 07, 2015 10:23 AM (MIKMs) In the Cruz / Fiorina cabinet. Posted by: Cruzinator at August 07, 2015 10:25 AM (p09tx) 212
>>She's going to be vulnerable when the layoffs are brought up.
DW-S said on Morning Joe "She couldn't run a Fortune 500 company, why would we want her to run the country?" It's a devastating soundbite even if there's 9 different ways you can demolish it, starting w/Obama's utter lack of experience running even a sandwich cart. Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 10:25 AM (NOIQH) 213
209: "They're going to get their nominee. "
I agree with this one. No matter who the primary voters prefer, the delegates are GOPe through and through. Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at August 07, 2015 10:27 AM (UPYPp) 214
They have Rubio waiting in the wings, should Jeb! fail. They're going to get their nominee.
Rubio is sort of the Anakin Skywalker to Jeb's Count Dooku. Palpatine is, of course, Karl Rove. Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 10:27 AM (O7MnT) 215
Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 10:25 AM (NOIQH)
It wouldn't have made a difference if she made HP bigger than Microsoft according to the Dems. Believe me. Posted by: Romney at August 07, 2015 10:29 AM (p09tx) 216
Rubio is sort of the Anakin Skywalker to Jeb's Count Dooku.
Palpatine is, of course, Karl Rove. Posted by: V the K at August 07, 2015 10:27 AM (O7MnT) Aww crap, now I have to go back and watch those insipid prequels to get the reference? Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:29 AM (TOk1P) 217
My take on Fiorina is that she made the tough decisions for survival of the company. Seems like the US is in the same type of situation. That is why Cruz is still first, because I do think that his core beliefs will carry over and will provide the proper arguments for those who have to execute the final decisions.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 07, 2015 10:30 AM (MIKMs) 218
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at August 07, 2015 10:27 AM (UPYPp)
They are locked into their vote based on the vote totals. Some are winner take all. So it is up to the primary voters. Posted by: Romney at August 07, 2015 10:30 AM (p09tx) 219
214: "Palpatine is, of course, Karl Rove."
Except Palpatine was much smarter than Rove. The GOPe only wins when their opponents are as unlikeable as Gore and Kerry. Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at August 07, 2015 10:30 AM (UPYPp) 220
Off 2012 runner up sock.
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 07, 2015 10:31 AM (p09tx) 221
>>It wouldn't have made a difference if she made HP bigger than Microsoft according to the Dems. Believe me.
Exactly. Successful businessman: Greedy asshole making money off the backs of his workers Unsuccessful businessman: You want to elect an incompetent businessman? It's amazing how well you can argue when you have no morals, principles, or consistency. Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 10:32 AM (NOIQH) 222
It wouldn't have made a difference if she made HP bigger than Microsoft according to the Dems. Believe me.
Posted by: Romney at August 07, 2015 10:29 AM (p09tx) That's the really funny part. You can say it all day long: "But but but, you aren't being consistent! How can you say 'this' now, when you said 'that' last time???" The response of course: "Helloooo, we're Democrats, since when have we ever given a toot about consistency in our pronouncements?" Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:32 AM (TOk1P) 223
>>Yeah, a little. I think one of our biggest problems is politicians who think rules don't apply to them. It's a little thing, but it is symbolic of a big thing.
Well then you're really gonna be pissed when the buzzer goes off and a candidate doesn't stop talking immediately. Which all of the do and have since the beginning of recorded time. I take the opposite view. I want someone who isn't a friggin trained seal and will take a few extra words or a few extra minutes in a debate to get their message across. Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 10:33 AM (OGm46) 224
**Megyn has always been that when she's acting as an objective, tough journalist SHOULD, she's magnificent. But when she gets into "gurrrl power mommy" mode, frankly she sucks almost as bad as the average MSNBC dunce. Unfortunately, she's doing that a lot more often of late.**
Exactly. Martha McCollum makes me sweaty though. And Andrea Tarantula proves the existence of God. Posted by: Some random meathead at August 07, 2015 10:33 AM (1eYr7) 225
218: "So it is up to the primary voters."
If this is accurate, then it would seem it doesn't matter if we get a good candidate. We have too many dummies voting in the primaries. I would use the Cornyn and Cochran primaries as examples. Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at August 07, 2015 10:35 AM (UPYPp) 226
>>That's the really funny part. You can say it all day long: "But but but, you aren't being consistent! How can you say 'this' now, when you said 'that' last time???"
And if you needed further evidence, look at the effort to get the Starbucks CEO to run. Big, eeevil corporate CEO - and a straight (I'm assuming), white man, too. The Dems/Left totes remind me of a pathological liar I used to work with. He always sincerely believed whatever he was saying at the time. But *only* at that time (he was in sales, naturally). Got so bad that someone started a joke for when he contradicted himself that "it must have been your evil twin, Jeff, who said that." And the lying guy thought that was hysterical - he had absolutely no shame. None. This is the Left. Posted by: Lizzy at August 07, 2015 10:38 AM (NOIQH) 227
I take the opposite view. I want someone who isn't a
friggin trained seal and will take a few extra words or a few extra minutes in a debate to get their message across. Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 10:33 AM (OGm46) Which is why the "debate" format is so effective at weeding out the outsiders. Cruz last night, before a commercial break says "can I say something?" The response: "No, we're going to commercial." When they came back, where was Cruz? How is it he was not ready to beat everybody on that panel with his microphone? He didn't, because in the end, he's a politician too. And in that format, politicians have a role, they are bit players on the stage. Which demonstrates to anyone watching, the outsidey outsiders aren't going to do squat to change anything. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:38 AM (TOk1P) 228
So when the Dems have their debate, eventually, the MFM will go to Rinsed Penis for his biting, scathing commentary?
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2015 10:38 AM (JO9+V) 229
In my mind, Megyn Kelly never says a harsh word. In fact, she rarely vocalizes at all, save for some rhythmic glottal shock.
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at August 07, 2015 10:38 AM (wKcQA) Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2015 10:39 AM (2Ojst) 231
>>When they came back, where was Cruz? How is it he was not ready to beat everybody on that panel with his microphone? He didn't, because in the end, he's a politician too.
I'm paying for this microphone. That simple, aggressive statement was a key moment in Reagan's rise. And as much as I didn't think he was a good candidate, Newt took off last cycle when he told the moderator to pound sand. A little leadership and some indication of having a pair is a welcome change for me. Which is why Carly is starting to grow on me a little bit. Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 10:41 AM (OGm46) 232
In my mind, Megyn Kelly never says a harsh word. In fact, she rarely vocalizes at all, save for some rhythmic glottal shock.
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at August 07, 2015 10:38 AM (wKcQA) Sorry to toss cold water on your dream, but with the way her nose was surgically pinched and shrunk, she probably can't breathe through it. So... the bj's are not going to be very effective, unless you want her to die whilst she's at it. Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2015 10:42 AM (TOk1P) 233
Kelly gave some low blows. Wallace bloviated.
what did you expect? This is a test. You think the candidates will get a fairer shake somewhere else They should be able to reject the premise, make a case, and when necessary not take the bait It's a test. It does no one any favors to make it soft Kelly is ambitious and she wanted to be the one to take down Teumo. Whatever. Better get used to it Posted by: ThunderB at August 07, 2015 10:44 AM (zOTsN) 234
Trump
Posted by: ThunderB at August 07, 2015 10:46 AM (zOTsN) 235
I like Teumo better.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 10:48 AM (OGm46) 236
If she promised to downsize the FedGov, the GOP would lose Virginia but
pick up some other places. Virginia is, electorally anyway, a DC suburb. So it's probably a lost cause anyway. I'm not so sure. It depends on whether she does it by firing (probably impossible) or by attrition. If the latter, most folks won't worry about it, because they already have a job. Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 10:48 AM (LAe3v) 237
Why would you think Cruz was a typical politician because he did not stomp his feet and demand the microphone when you've seen him be atypical and call his party leader a liar?
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 07, 2015 10:48 AM (p09tx) 238
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As of right now, I think Cruz/Fiorina is a winning combination -- each has talents to reinforce each other. Now, where do I put Walker, Jindal Posted by: mustbequantum Agreed, to a point. Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 10:49 AM (LAe3v) 239
My take on Fiorina is that she made the tough decisions for survival of the company.
Agreed. What you never hear from the "she sent jobs to China" folks, is what would have happened if she hadn't, and all her competitors undercut HP dramatically on price. Sometimes there are no good choices, and you have to pick the least bad one. I can live with that, in fact, it's refreshing when you compare that kind of leadership to a typical DC pol, who never makes a hard call because, hell, we'll just raise taxes and the debt. Posted by: pep at August 07, 2015 10:52 AM (LAe3v) 240
When liberals castigate Carly for making the hard decisions regarding payroll, the progressive intelligentsia are comparing the business of government with private enterprise. Government never reduces its workforce because it can rely on confiscating more money from taxpayers to fill the void, whereas private business must make decisions around its financial strength and projected earnings. Its a convoluted comparison, but when dealing with liberal/Marxist, expect the worst and you will not be disappointed. Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 07, 2015 11:04 AM (OiFtZ) 241
Russian River picture, noice, needs more motorcycle rally.
Posted by: bour3 at August 07, 2015 11:52 AM (5x3+2) 242
>>Other than empty rhetoric, name one thing that has come out of our "moving the party to the right"?
The party exists outside of DC. Scott Walker and Bobby Jindal have both defunded PP at the state level. Voter ID laws are springing up is states across the country. Walker took on the public unions in WI and cut their nuts off. Lots of things like this are going on at the state level if you look. Liberals took over the party from the ground up. We have to do the same thing. And it isn't going to happen overnight. Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2015 12:09 PM (OGm46) 243
The college I went to had a really nice collection of Keith and I came to really appreciate what I learned was something called the Hudson River school of art. For those not familiar with Keith, look up Albert Bierstadt
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