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Jerry Seinfeld: Network TV Is Dead

He says that if he were just starting his show now, he would go with an internet-centered exhibitor rather than a network.

The 55-year-old comedian also explained why the man behind NBC's iconic Seinfeld would choose the internet over the small screen. "TV is over," is his answer.

"When you get to a certain point in the business, what a man is looking for in a network is the same as in his underwear. A little bit of support and a little bit of freedom," he said according to a transcript via Tubefilter. "That's exactly what Crackle offered… There's nothing different about what we're doing than what anyone else is doing on any media anywhere. TV networks are worried that you’ll figure out TV is over, and there's nothing special about it."

He's still in favor of TV shows (as he's peddling one), and wasting your time watching them, but I think he's right that the delivery mechanism of tv stations and networks and schedules is dead -- or at least dying.


Posted by: Ace at 11:44 AM




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1 Mornin' Ace!

Posted by: jdub at April 17, 2015 11:43 AM (WDySP)

2 Certainly scheduling is dead. Other than sporting events, maybe, does anyone watch anything live any more?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2015 11:45 AM (eBNjM)

3 I almost never watch anything scheduled, other than sports and local news.

Posted by: jdub at April 17, 2015 11:45 AM (WDySP)

4 Hey! What's the deal with network television? It's not in a net! It doesn't work! Hey!

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at April 17, 2015 11:46 AM (YFFpo)

5 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:46 AM (kff5f)

6 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (kff5f)

7 Other than sporting events, maybe, does anyone watch anything live any more?

I think OFA still shills "watch parties" when Ear Leader does his thing in prime time.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (ZKzrr)

8 So he's pitching a delivery system that's dying?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (DQZLr)

9 How will I ever keep up with the Kardashians?

*weeps

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (BZAd3)

10 Certainly scheduling is dead.

This.

If everything went to an on-demand model, I'd be very happy.

Of course, network TV doesn't work like that, and can't (their business model won't allow it).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:48 AM (kff5f)

11 How will I ever keep up with the Kardashians?

*weeps
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (BZAd3)


What's a Kardashian? Is that something a gay Klingon wears?

Posted by: model_1066 at April 17, 2015 11:48 AM (WEvvb)

12 How will I ever keep up with the Kardashians?


Go stand in a checkout line at a supermarket, you can't escape them.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 11:48 AM (ZKzrr)

13 Crackle is kinda weird, the only thing I have ever watched there was Sports Jeopardy, but I imagine over time the fare will get better.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2015 11:48 AM (ODxAs)

14 Once upon a time - you will whisper to your grandchildren- entertainment was available for free. They will respond.. "Aww grandmother(father) stop teasing us with make-believe stories".

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 17, 2015 11:49 AM (Va5/T)

15 So he's pitching a delivery system that's dying?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2015 11:47 AM (DQZLr)


I think he's pitching a format that he wants to keep living, and suggesting it move away from the dying delivery system.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:49 AM (kff5f)

16 Thank God for DVR's and Netflix!

Which is exactly why commercial TV is dead or dying. Who watches commercials anymore?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 17, 2015 11:49 AM (so+oy)

17 "I almost never watch anything scheduled, other than sports and local news."

For me, it's just sports.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 11:49 AM (KZ7dE)

18 How will I ever keep up with the Kardashians?


Maybe we can attach GoPros to their heads and va-jay-jays and stream them to the Internet.

Kinda like The Truman Show, but they know that they're on.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (DQZLr)

19 Seinfeld is not funny, but his show was, IMO. He must of slept with Larry David or something.

Posted by: Baldy at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (sEXjW)

20 I am waiting for the moment when the sports leagues figure out that they can start their streaming services with no middle man.

That's when the real collapse comes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (659DL)

21 Once upon a time - you will whisper to your grandchildren- entertainment was available for free

Nothing is free.

And if you're not the purchaser or the seller: you're the product- which means you have little-to-no say in what is shown.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (kff5f)

22 Print is dead

Posted by: Egon at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (/Hp3T)

23 Hockey is the only sport I want to watch, but without cable the playoffs are difficult to see. Long term sports deals and blackouts might keep the scum-suckers up there on life support for a few more year.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (3sOO0)

24 What's a Kardashian? Is that something a gay Klingon wears?

Posted by: model_1066
............
Isn't that the alien race with face like a rock on Star-Trek deep space nine?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (so+oy)

25 If internet TV is streaming, then broadcast TV is more like a golden shower. Glad I turned it off years ago.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (WEvvb)

26 He's still in favor of TV shows (as he's peddling one), and wasting your time watching them, but I think he's right that the delivery mechanism of tv stations and networks and schedules is dead -- or at least dying.

Seeing as how they're all populated with leftards, I see that as a good thing.

Hell, even the local stations down here are far leftards.

May they go the way of print, onto the ash heap of history for their support of communism/progressivism and for lying to us.

Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (0HooB)

27 He's still in favor of TV shows (as he's peddling one), and wasting your time watching them, but I think he's right that the delivery mechanism of tv stations and networks and schedules is dead -- or at least dying.

In the words of Captain James T. Kirk, let them die.

And may, God willing, the MFM die with them.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 11:52 AM (zF6Iw)

28 Waiting on the Fcuking Time Warner Cable guy now. Every time it rains for two days cable goes out. They come out replace cable. Their Mexicans come out to bury cable and nick it.



EVERY TIME.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2015 11:52 AM (0FSuD)

29
2 Certainly scheduling is dead. Other than sporting events, maybe, does anyone watch anything live any more?
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2015 11:45 AM (eBNjM)


DVRs are a Godsend for people working second and third shifts.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2015 11:54 AM (zt+N6)

30 I am waiting for the moment when the sports leagues figure out that they can start their streaming services with no middle man.


MLB's been doing it for at least five years...but they still black out games available on cable in the ZIP code you are streaming in because they still take money from TV networks.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 11:54 AM (ZKzrr)

31 28 Go wireless.

Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (88xKn)

32 Of course, network TV doesn't work like that, and can't (their business model won't allow it).

On demand is growing for the big networks. You can watch recent episodes and you're forced to watch the commercials because they've disabled fast-forward.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (0HooB)

33 How will I ever keep up with the Kardashians



Are those the guys in the country next to Afghanistan? Who wants to keep up with them?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (0FSuD)

34 Swearnet is the future, you carrot-cocked hydraulic dick gobblers.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (2cS/G)

35 If I'm going to start watching shows on my computer, I'm going to have to figure out how my ISP charges me for the amount I download. If I go over a certain amount a month do they hit me with a penalty fee? I don't know, guess I should find out.

Posted by: Big Al at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (eqD/G)

36 Interesting that the internet was made a public utility about the same time that TV is starting to die.

Posted by: no good deed at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (ZKGnj)

37 Cut the cord.

Posted by: brak at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (Tj+s6)

38
I have a weak stream. Oh, wait a second . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (St6BJ)

39 When I mention that we don't have cable or broadcast TV in our home, everyone nods and says they wish they could do that. Well, we did it years ago, and the only times I regret are MLB playoffs and March Madness. So, I follow games online, we watch anime on Netflix and streaming sites, and Pookette only knows Mickey Mouse from the books she reads. I agree with Ace that cutting the cord is the way to go.

Posted by: pookysgirl on the road to recovery at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (MKXiS)

40 DVRs are a Godsend for people working second and third shifts.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2015 11:54 AM (zt+N6)


Yep.

And NFL Network already does Gameday Replay (or whatever they call it) so you can watch games you missed later in the week.

Move that to an On-Demand Streaming service, and no one would need to watch live Football again.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (kff5f)

41 Ace's post are always so informative and I learn something new with everyone.

This one I learned that Jerry Seinfield was still alive.

Now, if only Ace could teach me why I should care.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 17, 2015 11:56 AM (/HC6x)

42
Cable TV free over 2 years now. Weird to watch things at the gym because most everything looks so brain-deadeningly moronic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2015 11:56 AM (St6BJ)

43 I tried to tell my 20-something nephew (who is an NFL videographer) this very thing, and he got all defensive with me. I just suggested that he keep his eyes & ears open to all of the new media and he said that he's exactly where he wants to be.

Posted by: Nancine at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (OfXB2)

44 Do the online shows reach a large audience? I haven't watched any. I suppose after time they'll be better marketed and will reach just as large an audience as traditional tv. Whenever there is innovation, industries have to adapt or go bust. People at the networks will have to find their place or look for other work.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (7s3QG)

45 Cable guy here, two minutes before he was overdue.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (0FSuD)

46 Binge enteire seasons on Netflix FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (8Fqe6)

47 HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 11:54 AM

NHL does the same thing. Why pay for a service if you're rooting for the home team that you can never watch? It's dumb.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (3sOO0)

48 Binge enteire seasons on Netflix FTW!

Exactly.

BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:58 AM (kff5f)

49
>>If everything went to an on-demand model, I'd be very happy.
Of course, network TV doesn't work like that, and can't (their business model won't allow it).

I think they are moving that way, or being forced to move that way, but it's too soon to say they are dead.

One, they work well for immediate local news (thereare threetornadoshappening right now.Here is where they are.).
Two.Content has to come from somewhere. Some of the networks are still producing decent stuff, they just need to
Three. Sports.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 11:59 AM (lIU4e)

50 Maybe we can attach GoPros to their heads and va-jay-jays and stream them to the Internet.
------------------

That's how skanky Kim K got her start in the first place.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2015 11:59 AM (VndSC)

51
44 Do the online shows reach a large audience? I haven't watched any. I suppose after time they'll be better marketed and will reach just as large an audience as traditional tv. Whenever there is innovation, industries have to adapt or go bust. People at the networks will have to find their place or look for other work.
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (7s3QG)


Oh great thanks nerdygirl. Now we're going to subjected to thirty comments about TV ratings and how even the highest rated cable shows don't really have that large of an audience. Sure it'll be the exact same posts put up 30 times before but clearly its an OCD sickness.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2015 11:59 AM (zt+N6)

52 BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?


Binged season 1. Serious withdrawls waiting on season 2.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:00 PM (8Fqe6)

53 "Don't touch that dial!"


Kid: "What's a dial?"

Me: "Get off my lawn. Now."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Internecine Squabbles Coming to the Outrage Outlet! at April 17, 2015 12:00 PM (hLRSq)

54 Binged season 1. Serious withdrawls waiting on season 2.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:00 PM (8Fqe6)


Cool. That'll probably be my next one after Daredevil, then.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)

55 Why pay for a service if you're rooting for the home team that you can never watch?

Indianapolis has no MLB team, so Cubs, Cards, and Reds are all blacked out, so I can't watch half the Brewers games. So I don't buy the video package. Maybe next season, when I don't live in Indianapolis...

OTOH, I never had cable when I lived in Milwaukee so I came to fandom through AM radio, so the audio package is perfect. Sit outside and stream the game while drinking a beer.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (ZKzrr)

56
>>You can watch recent episodes and you're forced to watch the commercials because they've disabled fast-forward.

See also, hulu.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (lIU4e)

57 If TV is dead then everything is permitted

- William S. Burroughs, your cable guy

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (sgj55)

58 And f*ck you, spell check, "that'll" is too a word.

Living language, motherf*cker, do you speak it?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (kff5f)

59 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2015 11:56 AM (St6BJ)

It always was but then you were a brain dead moron so you didn't notice.

TV makes you stupid. Makes you careless and makes you think and do things a sane person wouldn't.

It's like cigarettes. While you're smoking you don't notice that your lung capacity and sense of smell has decreased.

When You stop, suddenly you can breather easier and you smell things you haven't smelled since you started smoking cigarettes.

Cut. The. Cord. You'll feel better, I guarantee it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)

60 Big screen TVs are going to be a smaller market too. My kids only use them when they get tired of HuluPlusNetflixAmazonPrimeWTFBBQ on the iPad or Chromebook.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2015 12:02 PM (VndSC)

61 51 Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2015 11:59 AM (zt+N6)

even the highest rated...

nah look I watch shows by buying them on Xboxlive or Goggle(God forgive me)

The best wrestling show around right now ain't on TV its on WWE's network..."Nxt"...

ANYTHING we can do to force the revenue stream towards the artists takes power away from the liberal fuckwits in charge of the networks...

Longmire and Justified would still be ongoing in all likelihood if InterneTV was stronger.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at April 17, 2015 12:03 PM (/4AZU)

62 BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:58 AM (kff5f)



-------------------


I liked it. High value production. Beautifully shot. It was the first series I watched on my 4k tv.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 12:03 PM (vMfRw)

63 Kill your TV

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 17, 2015 12:03 PM (IRiM9)

64
>>Cable TV free over 2 years now. Weird to watch things at the gym because most everything looks so brain-deadeningly moronic.

I can't remember how many years its been since I cut cable, and mostly I don't care, but my gym television channel selection drives me batty. A couple local channels, every news channel known to man, and then bravo and hgtv. GAH!

I almost end up watching people buy 750k houses and put 100k of work into them before they move in. I am glad I live in Arkansas because that is insane.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:04 PM (lIU4e)

65 BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?



I wish Nexflix was around in 1980 when Shogun came out. Binged all 5 episodes back in November just to see it all uninterrupted.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:04 PM (8Fqe6)

66 The company I work for, CoachesAid.com, does live streaming broadcasts of amateur sports events. To watch a particular game, say your kid's basketball team, you log on and pay about ten bucks (prices vary a bit) and you can watch while it's happening and then a couple days later you'll be able to see it with added edits/cuts/highlights. For 30 bucks, you get that and a dvd mailed to your house. I have zero involvement in sales or production, but we get a few hundred subscribers for "big" high school games, a few thousand worldwide for stuff like the Cricket match I did last weekend. It's a good model, and the company is expanding all over.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 17, 2015 12:04 PM (2cS/G)

67 59 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)

Call your shots anyway...

This year I am watching Justified, Better Call Saul, Elementary, and God willing Sherlock

nuking cable cost me nothing but a net loss of 1000 bucks a year or so.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at April 17, 2015 12:04 PM (/4AZU)

68 Posted by: Nancine at April 17, 2015 11:57 AM (OfXB2)

You need to have him google buggy whips and buggy whip manufacturing.

And when he asks what that is, you go "Exactly".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:05 PM (zRby/)

69 I watch TV programs on a schedule. I like looking forward to a certain day when I know a certain program is to be shown. Granted I like schedules, organization and order.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 17, 2015 12:05 PM (P7ulB)

70 Oh, also they have espn at the gym. bah.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:05 PM (lIU4e)

71 plenty of streaming websites out there if you want to go that route, too...

Posted by: brak at April 17, 2015 12:06 PM (Tj+s6)

72 NHL does the same thing. Why pay for a service if you're rooting for the home team that you can never watch? It's dumb.

If they put my Tragic (who just mercifully wrapped up a 25-win season) online, I would look forward to not watching them even more than I do now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:06 PM (0HooB)

73 The only thing we watch on network tv is Cowboys games and Eagles games. Everything else we get through the internet one way or another. No commercials on the shows and we even watch live sports events. Hell, the entire 2014 olympics we watched streams of the bbc coverage and avoided Bob fucking Costas.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 17, 2015 12:06 PM (FE+I8)

74 Once upon a time - you will whisper to your grandchildren- entertainment was available for free


During the days of my childhood, you had 3 networks, which meant 3 tv shows at a time to choose from. And, it wasn't actually free, it was paid for by the sponsors. Now we have everything from mass market sitcoms, to provocative, harsh shows on AMC, to streaming '50's film noir, to reality show crap, to endless Kardashian idiocy. In the end the choices are good.

And if you want to save money you can do like my brother did. Use an antenna for what comes over the airwaves, and set a used computer near your tv just for streaming. He doesn't even pay for netflix.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:06 PM (7s3QG)

75 Jerry who?

Posted by: wrg500 at April 17, 2015 12:07 PM (S+el1)

76 Indianapolis has no MLB team, so Cubs, Cards,



Blowtorch KMOX FTW!

On some cold, clear nights in winter, I can get KMOX on the radio in Dallas.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:07 PM (8Fqe6)

77 Here's my "concern".

I don't have cable. Everything I watch is either over-the-air or via internet, and I'm on copper DSL. (I have a smartphone, but consuming a lot of media via my cell service would get pretty expensive fast.)

If TV is "dying", what part would die first?

I've got to believe it's over-the-air broadcasting. Then what, for guys like me?

Looks like either: 1) get cable, a loathsome proposition, or 2) Sateliite TV/internet, not much better than (1), or 3) live with copper DSL, which gags on a lot of "live" streaming right now.

Doesn't look so good for me I guess...



Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 17, 2015 12:07 PM (wtvvX)

78 25 If internet TV is streaming, then broadcast TV is more like a golden shower. Glad I turned it off years ago.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (WEvvb)


But you missed out on all that liberal indoctrination from Law & Order.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:07 PM (7s3QG)

79

HBO has also now launched their online channel, without the need for cable TV. It is basically the same as HBO GO I think, but it is called HBO Now (www.hbonow.com).

This is another serious blow to TV. Many people will be cancelling their cable service over this, I think.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (D0bIN)

80 Been tweaking our antenna setup for the last few weeks.

Uverse is slated for termination soon.

Posted by: llass at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (Lre/J)

81 We have issues with the Xbox1 and that whole region thing.

None of my DVDs play on the xbox1, have to break out an old 360 or ps3 to get them to play.

stupid microsoft.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (x3YFz)

82 It's a good model, and the company is expanding all over.

Several years ago when we had this exact same discussion about the death of daily newspapers, I thought a local weekly or semi-weekly rag devoted to nothing but HS sports could capture this market as well--Grandpa and Grandma want to see Snoflaque's picture in the paper. I guess people do digital scrapbooks these days. Hrm.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (ZKzrr)

83 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)

TV did that to you? Didn't know it was that powerful.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (P7ulB)

84 20 I am waiting for the moment when the sports leagues figure out that they can start their streaming services with no middle man.

That's when the real collapse comes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (659DL)




Yep. And imagine if you could play director, and select which camera you watched. How cool would that be?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 12:09 PM (oKE6c)

85 81 Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:08 PM (x3YFz)

I've yet to get a "One" and I probably won't...

if you seek national Divorce by peaceable as can be means step one is uh not sleeping with the enemy.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at April 17, 2015 12:09 PM (/4AZU)

86 @60

Well, they sure as hell are cheap now. 60" Samsung smart TV at Costco? $500.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2015 12:09 PM (0FSuD)

87 I am waiting for the moment when the sports leagues figure out that they can start their streaming services with no middle man.



That's when the real collapse comes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2015 11:50 AM (659DL)

NBA League Pass.NFL Network.
It's already here, basically.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 17, 2015 12:09 PM (wtvvX)

88 TV makes you stupid. Makes you careless and makes you think and do things a sane person wouldn't.It's like cigarettes. While you're smoking you don't notice that your lung capacity and sense of smell has decreased.When You stop, suddenly you can breather easier and you smell things you haven't smelled since you started smoking cigarettes.Cut. The. Cord. You'll feel better, I guarantee it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)


There's a cartoon called Tom The Dancing Bug. Back in 1995, I think, the artist did a one-page layout called "Flowers For Trinitron," following what happened to a fellow when his TV went on the blink. My google-fu isn't good enough to bring up a link, but perhaps a smarter moron could do it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 12:10 PM (zF6Iw)

89 Watch Americans, Vikings, and Justified.

Never watch them when they air, always DVR'd.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:10 PM (fWAjv)

90
>> I have zero involvement in sales or production, but we get a few hundred subscribers for "big" high school games

When I was in high school they used to play all our games on a local pbsish tv station for free.

>>TV makes you stupid.
Guns make you stupid. Duct tape makes you smart.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:10 PM (lIU4e)

91 watched the series finale of Justified last night.

Very well done.

If Nick Searcy still lurks: thanks. Was a great ride.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:10 PM (x3YFz)

92 And imagine if you could play director, and select which camera you watched. How cool would that be?

Hasn't MNF done that, or did they only stream the camera that was on Favre? (I watched it only for Sage Rosenfels. Don't judge me.)

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 17, 2015 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

93 Duct tape makes you smart.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:10 PM (lIU4e)


very true.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:11 PM (x3YFz)

94 Posted by: Big Al at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (eqD/G)

You don't have to download you can stream, and you can stream directly to your tv screen. Your tv acts as a computer monitor.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:12 PM (7s3QG)

95 I'm not dead yet!

... I don't want to go on the cart.

... I feel fine. I think I'm going for a walk! I feel happy!

Posted by: network tv at April 17, 2015 12:12 PM (AkOaV)

96 And on topic, today's Soccer game just got washed out. So I've got all day to pore over rosters from USMC and Coastal Carolina, watch some classic matches, get my rugby-face on.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 17, 2015 12:12 PM (2cS/G)

97 BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 11:58 AM (kff5f)

Watched the first one. It seemed pretty good. Just don't have the time to watch it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (fWAjv)

98 What is this "Network TV" thingie you speak of?

Between Amazon and Netflix (my only concessions to our garbage-generating leftist overlords), I have no time for such as this.

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (sCHw2)

99 To many fans of (say) Game of Thrones, "scheduling" means "the time the .torrent appears".

Posted by: janos slynt's severed head at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (yXvWv)

100 Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:12 PM (7s3QG)

Yep. Or, you can stream to your ipad and chromecast (or whatever device you choose) to your TV.

Or run an HDMI cable from your computer (assuming you have a good video card) to your TV. No lag that way.

Or just watch TV on your 27" computer monitor.

No need to pay for cable, I cut the cord a while ago. Saves a lot of money.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)

101 Yep. And imagine if you could play director, and select which camera you watched. How cool would that be?

Somewhat related: I read the other day that Google or somebody has big plans for their purchase of Oculus Rift.

Imagine a 360-degree camera unit mounted inside a NASCAR where everywhere you looked, you saw what you'd see if you were sitting next to the driver.

That's a company I'd invest in, if I had some of that "money" I hear so much about.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (0HooB)

102 here's a link for the current:

http://tinyurl.com/qzllvj (gocomics)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (zRby/)

103 saw = see.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (0HooB)

104 Watch Americans, Vikings, and Justified.
Never watch them when they air, always DVR'd.



Doing that with 12 Monkeys. I'll binge watch when we get a rainy weekend.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (8Fqe6)

105 They only archive that comic back to 1998.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (zRby/)

106

Or run an HDMI cable from your computer (assuming you have a good video card) to your TV. No lag that way.


A lot of new sets have VGA ports as standard.

Posted by: llass at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (Lre/J)

107 I can't remember how many years its been since I cut
cable, and mostly I don't care, but my gym television channel selection
drives me batty. A couple local channels, every news channel known to
man, and then bravo and hgtv. GAH!


Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:04 PM (lIU4e)

I not only cut the cable, but converted our garage into a gym (complete with power rack, Olympic bar, situp bench, pull up bar, and gym mats) and included a flat screen there so I put on P90X or whatever, and don't have to put up with a-holes lounging on equipment.
Yeah, livin' the dream ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (oKE6c)

108 No need to pay for cable, I cut the cord a while ago. Saves a lot of money.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)


mmm hmm. and no commercials.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (x3YFz)

109 100 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)

I haven't used a computer monitor in ~ 8 years...

HDTV baby I am typing this on a 42" screen from across the room using a wireless keyboard....

have three other PC-TV combos if inclined in the house...

Yay wireless

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (/4AZU)

110 A North Korean propaganda unit said the U.S. ambassador to South Korea could face a 'bigger mishap' than the knife attack to his face last month if he does not stop insulting North Korea with 'laughable' accusations.
----

I am just thankful we don't have a cowboy in the white house.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (fWAjv)

111 see saw == margery daw

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (zRby/)

112 Cut. The. Cord. You'll feel better, I guarantee it.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)


Woot! High five!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (qbXOf)

113 Apropos of nothing, the Chromecast dongle is well worth the $35.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (evdj2)

114 A lot of new sets have VGA ports as standard.
Posted by: llass at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (Lre/J)

******

Most newer computers output to HDMI, and need an adapter for the old 15 pin VGA/SXGA.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (XrHO0)

115 What I'm really excited for is the end of the cable TV monopoly, when cable companies realize they need to make up that lost revenue by jacking up the costs of internet bandwidth big time.

and now that theyre a regulated local monopoly, I have little hope we'll see too many new ISPs.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (AkOaV)

116 Doing that with 12 Monkeys. I'll binge watch when we get a rainy weekend.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (8Fqe6)

Haven't even started Justified yet. But they're all there waiting.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (fWAjv)

117 I not only cut the cable, but converted our garage
into a gym (complete with power rack, Olympic bar, situp bench, pull up
bar, and gym mats) and included a flat screen there so I put on P90X or
whatever, and don't have to put up with a-holes lounging on equipment.
Yeah, livin' the dream ...


Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (oKE6c)


I just have a tractor tire and a rope.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:17 PM (x3YFz)

118
>>I not only cut the cable, but converted our garage into a gym

I have a couple weights at home. I used to have a treadmill, but it finally died on me. I do like going to the gym, I just hate their channels. I wonder if I could get netflix on my phone or something and stream it through the tv? Hmm.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:17 PM (lIU4e)

119 I am just thankful we don't have a cowboy in the white house.

You said BOY.

Posted by: Maureen Dowdy at April 17, 2015 12:17 PM (W5DcG)

120 "23
Hockey is the only sport I want to watch, but without cable the playoffs
are difficult to see. Long term sports deals and blackouts might keep
the scum-suckers up there on life support for a few more year.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 17, 2015 11:51 AM (3sOO0)"
My freely offered advice: Find the local sports radio station for your team on the internet, listen to the Play-by-Play live wherever/whenever they play, and use NHL.com to keep track of their stats. Just like in the 1950's, but with internutz number-crunching!

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at April 17, 2015 12:17 PM (sCHw2)

121 Apropos of nothing, the Chromecast dongle is well worth the $35.



I just ordered the Amazon Fire Stick for $39.00 this morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:18 PM (8Fqe6)

122 Yeah, I still need coffee...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:18 PM (0HooB)

123 Haven't even started Justified yet. But they're all there waiting.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:16 PM (fWAjv)


you wont be disappointed.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:18 PM (x3YFz)

124
>>rickb223

How is 12 monkeys? Sci Fi is not putting episodes up on their app (btw, thank you history channel for letting me see vikings in real time on roku!), so I think I will either wait to see if they upload to netflix or if I hear good things maybe buy on amazon later...

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (lIU4e)

125 the Chromecast dongle /i]

*vapors*
OPPRESSION! OPPPRESSSSSSSION!

Posted by: Bint Who Doesn't Know Shit About Computer Hardware at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (ZKzrr)

126 Posted by: llass at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (Lre/J)

Heh, yes but HDMI is far superior. And I don't buy cheap video cards, so I dont' have a computer capable of VGA.

HDMI, DVI and Displayport on my devices.

I try to standardize as much as I can on HDMI, because I like to stream the audio as well as video (HDMI does both).

But yes, my monitors and TVs all have VGA ins on them.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (AkOaV)

127 I am just thankful we don't have a cowboy in the white house.


You said BOY.



To be honest, they said cow also. And that part's true.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (8Fqe6)

128 The Librarians is also good. Sort of another Warehouse 13.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (x3YFz)

129 He's lying. He also demands a whole lot of money. You think he did Seinfeld for scale? How much does he make with his new show? How many people watch it? He doesnt need money and he has an established reputation. Others dont. So for him to act oh so holy is BS.

I do like his comedians in cars show. The ones with LouisCK, Don Rickles, Gad, Brooks & Reiner, & Robert Klein were very funny.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (iQIUe)

130 You don't have to download you can stream, and you can stream directly to your tv screen. Your tv acts as a computer monitor.
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:12 PM (7s3QG)




Yep, we have an old busted screen laptop connected to our flatscreen with a VGA cable, operated by a wireless keyboard/mouse combo from the couch. It is a great setup for watching anything we want.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (FE+I8)

131 A lot of new sets have VGA ports as standard.

Posted by: llass at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (Lre/J)


And most Desktop video cards and Laptops have an hdmi port as standard.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2015 12:19 PM (zt+N6)

132 I just want to watch the reset button pushed on all this Twilight Zone reality we have evolved into.
There was a simple time when I landed in HK the colony and got a shoe shine, sauna and happy ending messagie for 7 US Dollars...
I always tipped 7 US dollars...
They probably posted a picture of me on the wall in the day...
Good Times, Good Times..

Posted by: NY Dolls at April 17, 2015 12:20 PM (/WmRg)

133 They only archive that comic back to 1998.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:14 PM (zRby/)


Too bad. Well, the story in a nutshell.

A man keeps a diary. In a childlike scrawl, he notes that his TV went on the blink.

As the days go by, he begins to read books, exercise, go on dates and even begin his own novel (his handwriting, meanwhile, getting more fluid and adult), realizing that television has robbed him of everything wonderful.

He's about to throw the TV out the window when it suddenly sputters back to life.

In the final panel, he's watching TV again. In a childlike scrawl, his diary reads, "Big excitement! On Home Improvement, Al was leaving for a job in another city, but then he didn't."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 12:20 PM (zF6Iw)

134 Cut the cable.
Ya, Internet service charges by the bit.

Video floods you with gigabits, for which you pay.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:20 PM (7ehQ2)

135 How is 12 monkeys? Sci Fi is not putting episodes up on their app (btw, thank you history channel for letting me see vikings in real time on roku!), so I think I will either wait to see if they upload to netflix or if I hear good things maybe buy on amazon later...

B'Gal and I like it. It's nothing like the movie.

Season finale was last Friday night. Lots of setups for the next season. Do start at the beginning if you haven't already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:21 PM (0HooB)

136 Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:18 PM (8Fqe6)

Would you mind giving me / us an update on that in a few weeks?

My plan was to wait for Chromecast 2 to come out, but Google has shelved it.

I have 3 Chromecasts and an older Roku. I'd really like something that could run on 5 GHz and free up some 2.4Ghz bandwidth, and I'm really sick of having to go through chrome browser to stream amazon prime videos.

Sounds like the firestick checks all my boxes, but I haven't heard enough reviews yet to go out and buy one, especially since its not really a pressing need.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:21 PM (AkOaV)

137 I have a couple weights at home. I used to have a
treadmill, but it finally died on me. I do like going to the gym, I just
hate their channels. I wonder if I could get netflix on my phone or
something and stream it through the tv? Hmm.

Posted by: Lea at April 17, 2015 12:17 PM (lIU4e)


You can do an amazing amount of stuff with just body weight and an area the size of a double bed: jump rope, jumping jacks, burpies, jump squats, hill climbers, etc. Couple circuits of a minute each of those and I'll guarantee you'll be trashed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 12:21 PM (oKE6c)

138 How is 12 monkeys? Sci Fi is not putting episodes up on their app (btw, thank you history channel for letting me see vikings in real time on roku!), so I think I will either wait to see if they upload to netflix or if I hear good things maybe buy on amazon later...


It started great, then seemed to bog down by episode three. I guess ep 2 & 3 were spent on character development. That's where I left off and let the dvr take over.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:22 PM (8Fqe6)

139 Jerry Seinfeld? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Nietzsche, talkin about expiration dates at April 17, 2015 12:23 PM (JOFI1)

140 Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:20 PM (7ehQ2)

No. Unless youre using LTE or satellite. Most of us (currently, I feel like this pricing model may change) pay for peak bandwidth. So we have near (there is a cap) unlimited downloads, but we're throttled on how much bandwidth we can use at any one time.

Which is not a big deal, even the cheapest internet packages from AT&T and Comcast can handle streaming netflix.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:23 PM (AkOaV)

141 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)

I use a 46 inch TV for my desktop monitor... I watch all my tv on it... even the TV I watch on Moms Cable (which I stream across the net)...

I'd like to jump up to 4K... but they are still fighting it out between HDMI 2.0 and the newer Display Port standards... (Beta vs VHS all over again)...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 17, 2015 12:23 PM (qh617)

142 Down load the shows for free onto a usb drive and plug them into your television or dvd player. Or, watch on yr computer.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (iQIUe)

143 "BTW- is that Marco Polo series any good?"

It's meh.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (nRvEn)

144 DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM/AP) -- The IRS wants $3.2 billion to cover back taxes that it says are owed by a prominent Texas businessman and his late brother who the IRS says hid income by setting up overseas trust funds.

The Internal Revenue Service detailed its claim in documents filed Wednesday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Dallas. It seeks to recover more than $2 billion in unpaid income taxes, interest and penalties from Sam Wyly and more than $1.2 billion from the estate of his brother, Charles Wyly.


Sterling Software was an American software company founded in Dallas, Texas in 1981 by Sterling Williams and brothers Sam and Charles Wyly. The company was acquired by Computer Associates International in 2000 in a stock-for-stock transaction worth $3.3 billion. Computer Associates sold Sterling Software's Federal Systems Group to Northrop Grumman in 2000.

Open Secrets shows Sam Wyly giving money to practically every Republican and every Republican Committee.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (e8kgV)

145 My God Jim, this man is like Bobcat Goldthwait!

Posted by: Doc Bones, talkin about has been comics at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (JOFI1)

146 T9 you're supposed to hang the tire from a tree not grab the rope while the tractor is moving

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (sgj55)

147
Seinfeld has been acting weird for a while. He's doing a lot of silly "look at me! Look at me!" crap with his weird wife.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:25 PM (iQIUe)

148 "hydraulic dick gobblers"

Today's Amazon gold box deal.

Posted by: West at April 17, 2015 12:25 PM (1Rgee)

149 Ya, Internet service charges by the bit.



Video floods you with gigabits, for which you pay.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:20 PM (7ehQ2)


Well, nothing's free. but we cut our bill by $80/mo by canning Directv.

the internet connection is always going to be 40/month so that exists with or without dtv.

netflix is 8/mo. lot better than 80.

everything else is on demand so I can choose what I want to spend money on.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:25 PM (x3YFz)

150 He is about 15 years too late with this observation.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (ZkzmI)

151 It's Friday afternoon. Shouldn't the admin be announcing some (more) unconstitutional bull shit about now?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (5buP8)

152 mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:23

Verizon has just sent me a notification that I have already consumed 90% of my bit budget which is apparently shared with six other devices on the family plan. The accumulated monthly total doesn't reset for another ten days, and there will be surcharges for exceeding the budget.

Tragedy of the commons. Someone one in the family is a bit hog.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (7ehQ2)

153 Would you mind giving me / us an update on that in a few weeks?


Will do!
I have 3 tv/monitors at home. The smallest is a smart tv in the bedroom, one is in the computer room, (hooked to the desktop), and the big one is in the main living room. It's going on that one.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (8Fqe6)

154 151 It's Friday afternoon. Shouldn't the admin be announcing some (more) unconstitutional bull shit about now?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (5buP

Too early in the day yet. Wait until at least 4:30.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2015 12:27 PM (2Ojst)

155
Seinfeld is worth $820 million dollars while Elaine is worth 3 billion bucks. If I had that kind of money, I would be off doing charitable works, enjoying life, being with my wife and children.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:27 PM (iQIUe)

156 I am just thankful we don't have a cowboy in the white house.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:15 PM (fWAjv)

Yeah, our Commander in Chief wouldn't want to traumatize our enemies by putting on a show of strength.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:27 PM (7s3QG)

157 Seinfeld and Malcolm in the Middle were two Network shows of merit. I haven't seen anything coming close to that level quality since. Not so oddly, I have no idea what channels Network programming is on on my cable.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at April 17, 2015 12:28 PM (oDCMR)

158 Posted by: BB Wolf at April 17, 2015 12:23 PM (qh617)

I used to use my 42 inch TV as a monitor, but the resolution isn't clear enough (for me) to read comfortably on it for any amount of time.

So I keep the TV hardwired to the computer, but I use dual 27"s for my daily work and whatnot. That way I can throw videos on the TV (which is across the room) and still work on my dual monitors (my work software kind of requires 2 monitors to work efficiently).

As for 4K? I'm not there yet. Like you, waiting for the new standard to standardize, and I'm also waiting for the price to drop on the TVs.

I don't spend a ton of time watching TV shows and rarely ever watch movies. So it's not a priority to me.

It would also require me to replace all of my video cards if I plan to stream from one of my desktops, which were not cheap and are not very old.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)

159 Can't have those nutjobs in North Korea dislike us.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 17, 2015 12:28 PM (7s3QG)

160 When you go onto TV, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there, watching.

Posted by: Michael Corleone, talkin about Jerry's new retread shows at April 17, 2015 12:28 PM (JOFI1)

161 and don't have to put up with a-holes lounging on equipment.

What kills me...absolutely kills me, are the number of people who go to the gym and then spend 95% of their gym time tappity-tapping on their handheld devices.

I mean, they're PAYING for that gym membership. They can tappity-tap on their own time.

Every damn flat machine in the gym has to turn into a cyber-café. But I live in an apartment so I kind of have to go to the gym. I go in the morning now, when it's all working folks who are serious about getting their workouts in and getting to work.

In the evenings, between the idiots glued to their iWhatevers while sitting on (not USING) machines, and the inner-city yoots who take over the basketball courts, I can't deal.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (7ObY1)

162 Seinfeld has been acting weird for a while. He's doing a lot of silly "look at me! Look at me!" crap with his weird wife.

I think being a "celebrity" must be its own nasty addiction. The withdrawals must drive B-listers to get attention any way they can. Even negative attention works. See: any celebrity, any where.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (5buP8)

163
Kramer is worth a measly 45 mil and George 50 mil. I knew you wanted to know that, too.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (iQIUe)

164 O/T - does anybody know what Ace is tweeting right now?I just walked past one of the hospital's TVs in a common area. It's on channel 7 (Boston media market) and I caught a quick glimpse of a tweet headlined "aceofspadeshq," but it was gone before I could figure out why the Head Ewok was on the news.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (zF6Iw)

165 Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:26 PM (8Fqe6)

How far from the router do you think that'd be?

The TV I'd most likely try it out on would be my bedroom TV. Probably 50 feet away from my AC router.

AC on 5 GHz works fine my phones, tablets, and laptops in my bed room, but my Chromecast on 2.4Ghz (which theoretically should get better range than the 5 Ghz band) is very iffy. Which seems stupid to me, but the device is so small I guess they had to cut back on antennae size.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (AkOaV)

166 Just finished Swearnet. Man, I wish I'd had the idea for a TPB-like show. Valu-Rite Vodka has nothing on Liquorman's Whiskey or Bald Pussy Tequila.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (2cS/G)

167 164 O/T - does anybody know what Ace is tweeting right now?I just walked past one of the hospital's TVs in a common area. It's on channel 7 (Boston media market) and I caught a quick glimpse of a tweet headlined "aceofspadeshq," but it was gone before I could figure out why the Head Ewok was on the news.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (zF6Iw)

Probably being led off in cuffs for humping Ted Cruz's trash.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2015 12:31 PM (2Ojst)

168 162 Seinfeld has been acting weird for a while. He's doing a lot of silly "look at me! Look at me!" crap with his weird wife.

I think being a "celebrity" must be its own nasty addiction. The withdrawals must drive B-listers to get attention any way they can. Even negative attention works. See: any celebrity, any where.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (5buP


And eventually you become pervert grandpa doing unfunny porn watching "jokes" on a shitty TBS sitcom for just a little taste of it again.

Posted by: Richard Dreyfus at April 17, 2015 12:32 PM (zt+N6)

169 Wow, shameless vanity or something there Seinfeld. Get some help!

Posted by: Vanilla Ice, My Amish show has better ratings than Jerry's at April 17, 2015 12:32 PM (JOFI1)

170 Seinfeld may appeal to urbanites and such. I never saw the appeal, but I don't live in New York Shitty.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2015 12:32 PM (xWW96)

171 He's right, and in the very new future I expect everything will be in an "on demand" model or pay for streaming of entire seasons like Daredevil. I see networks turning more into studios that produce content rather than having a channel with a regular schedule.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:33 PM (39g3+)

172 How far from the router do you think that'd be?



For that tv, about 12 inches. LOL
The pc and smart tv are about 40 feet away and work fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:34 PM (8Fqe6)

173 Hey Seinfeld, if you ask pretty please with sugar on top we'll think about you doing the next round of commercials

Posted by: Tucks Medicated Pads at April 17, 2015 12:34 PM (JOFI1)

174 164 O/T - does anybody know what Ace is tweeting right now?I just walked past one of the hospital's TVs in a common area. It's on channel 7 (Boston media market) and I caught a quick glimpse of a tweet headlined "aceofspadeshq," but it was gone before I could figure out why the Head Ewok was on the news.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (zF6Iw)


Ace hasn't tweeted a new message in 18 hours. Anything he's posted since then is just a retweet.

Posted by: Richard Dreyfus at April 17, 2015 12:35 PM (zt+N6)

175 It's on channel 7 (Boston media market) and I caught a quick glimpse of a tweet headlined "aceofspadeshq," but it was gone before I could figure out why the Head Ewok was on the news.

Shit!! They're onto us! Start having smart military conversations until further notice!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:35 PM (5buP8)

176
Ok..... Im old. Well .... older.


But I dont watch alot of scheduled TV. Nothing on the big three..... it's all crap.

But for the few shows I DO like and follow.... I like looking forward to the day they air, whether its TWD on Sunday evening or Vikings on Thursday. I like the anticipation. Its almost like a ritual. THURSDAY night is VIKINGS night.

I almost cant fathom DVRing a current season to watch on a weekend sometime in the future.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:35 PM (NaV4z)

177
I find most network shows mediocre. Why? Same formulas? I wont say it is due to the lack of nudity and violence. It's not even just violence on cable but cruelty. GOT, which I like, is just cruel.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:35 PM (iQIUe)

178 $35 Chromecast works for me just fine. Never had cable (close enough to Chicago, Indiana and Wisconsin to get antenna stuff). The odd thing is that people just can't get their heads around the fact that we have never had cable. The few times I was stuck watching cable the commercials were worse than broadcast.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 17, 2015 12:36 PM (MIKMs)

179 Ace hasn't tweeted a new message in 18 hours.
Posted by: Richard Dreyfus at April 17, 2015 12:35 PM (zt+N6)


aww shit. Do we need bail money again?

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:36 PM (x3YFz)

180 59 >>> When You stop, suddenly you can breathe easier and you smell things you haven't smelled since you started smoking cigarettes.

Cut. The. Cord. You'll feel better, I guarantee it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (zRby/)

Yep, agreed.

Posted by: m at April 17, 2015 12:36 PM (WIUGG)

181 I watch stuff on demand or Netflix, period. I never set aside time to watch something on TV, no matter what it is. I have no interest in sitting through ads on their clock.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:37 PM (39g3+)

182 And f*ck you, spell check, "that'll" is too a word.

Living language, motherf*cker, do you speak it?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 17, 2015 12:01 PM (kff5f)


It'd be kewl if autocucumber changed "that'll" to "twatwaffle".

Posted by: jwpaine at April 17, 2015 12:38 PM (i0pY0)

183 To rely on the Internet for anything is a fool's choice. Convenient? Yes. Beyond that, it is a fragile channel.

Layer upon layer of complex technology.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 12:38 PM (cQ7p2)

184 Seinfeld may appeal to urbanites and such. I never saw the appeal, but I don't live in New York Shitty.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2015 12:32 PM (xWW96)


Yeah. Unattractive people doing stupid things. Must be a New York thing, I guess. The entire Seinfeld run came and went after I quit watching network TV, or TV in general, but I've seen enough of the show on other peoples' TVs to say that it rates a hearty "meh!" from me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2015 12:38 PM (qbXOf)

185 If I were to win the lottery someday, presuming I ever buy another ticket, maybe I'll find one in the trash, but whatever.

I'd set up a non union overseas production company and go direct to video. Kinda like a 21st century mimeograph machine underground distribution.

The director of the first Borne movie talks about taking a camera and the lead actor into one of the major European trains stations to bootleg some video, and how they had to run from crazed autograph hunting fans and run around the block, and back to the station for some more bootleg video to cut into the movie.

That's the way I would do it. Money for nothing and the chicks are free.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:39 PM (7ehQ2)

186 Indeed, people are becoming astonishingly dependent on the internet for everything and it could all come down so very easily. Its like a house of cards built on egshells on a teetering platform above a raging sea. Any one of ten million things that goes wrong causes you to have no internet at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (39g3+)

187 It's always fun to binge last years episode prior to the new one. I just noticed that every actor except Damian Lewis in Wolf Hall is in GOT.

Saw a doc on GOT and how they shoot it. Very advanced. They have a trailer/communication center on each location so they can communicate all the time.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (iQIUe)

188 Seinfeld is worth $820 million dollars while Elaine is worth 3 billion bucks. If I had that kind of money, I would be off doing charitable works, enjoying life, being with my wife and children.

I'd buy Ginger Island and nobody would ever hear from me again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:41 PM (0HooB)

189 "Television is dead".


Phrases like that fall into the same category as the word "amnesty". It's totally meaningless with a definition.

Of course, "I Love Lucy" network shows in a commercial laden format are dead (or dying fast). However, as far as video entertainment viewed on cable connected televisions, now is a golden age of innovation and excellence.

The quantity and quality of what someone has available to them today is exceptional. Anyone without access to the wide variety of entertainment and informational programming today would be a sorely uniformed recluse who would have trouble functioning in society.

Rejoice in being alive at this point in history.

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2015 12:41 PM (9ZZd+)

190 TV is not going away any time soon. But cable will fall under increasing pressure from web/wireless based alternatives. Cable had distribution, but that advantage is no more.
What some cable channels have the ability to bring an audience that will be far harder to build on you tube and the web alternatives. The funding required to build a show is still considerable so that still points to the need for a corporate sponsor regardless if it's Amazon, Netflix, Fox or Dinsey/ABC.

Posted by: standfast24 at April 17, 2015 12:41 PM (5E9tW)

191 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:30 PM (AkOaV)

It could also be the transmit capabilities of your wireless network card in the computer or device.

And what is surrounding it... your 5 GHZ signal can 'bounce' off of things your 2.4 may not...

Because it takes a full communication loop for the handshaking needed for networking to function...

I had a client who had this same problem... finally got them a USB Network card (which should have ended up being slower)... but it allowed us to get a USB cable and get a direct line of site to her router..

MUCH better performance...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 17, 2015 12:41 PM (qh617)

192
Ace isnt tweeting b/c he got lucky last nite and it is still knob polishing time.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:42 PM (iQIUe)

193 Saw a doc on GOT and how they shoot it. Very advanced. They have a trailer/communication center on each location so they can communicate all the time.
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (iQIUe)

******

This is the way the Studios do it. All raw footage is shipped back home for editing and effects from location.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 12:42 PM (cIoI4)

194 Any one of ten million things that goes wrong causes you to have no internet at all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (39g3+)

-----

Soon.

But the internet you will not miss. Light, heat and water.... you will.

Posted by: Massive Coronal Ejections Straight at Earth at April 17, 2015 12:42 PM (NaV4z)

195 One opportunity I see is an internet 24/7 news channel. Stacked with conservatives. Currently I have CBSN as one choice, they're pretty much just the news without the lefty spin, but then they cut to a lefty reporter, and the propaganda starts.

It can't be Fox -- that 'fair and balanced' stuff doesn't happen when the 'other side' lies through its teeth and talks over the others.

I think it could happen. It doesn't take a fortune.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (xQX/f)

196 "a sorely uniformed recluse who would have trouble functioning in society. "

Hey now. Watch it, buster.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (7ehQ2)

197 183 To rely on the Internet for anything is a fool's choice. Convenient? Yes. Beyond that, it is a fragile channel.

Layer upon layer of complex technology.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 12:38 PM (cQ7p2)


Yeah... aint it wonderful!!!!

Posted by: BB Wolf, IT guy... at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (qh617)

198 Ginger Island -

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/ginger-island


h/t to AnnaPuma

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (0HooB)

199 Indeed, people are becoming astonishingly dependent
on the internet for everything and it could all come down so very
easily. Its like a house of cards built on egshells on a teetering
platform above a raging sea. Any one of ten million things that goes
wrong causes you to have no internet at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (39g3+)


True, but the very fact that it is so pervasive, and that commerce and government both depend upon it to maintain a revenue stream, means that if any part of it fails, repairs will be effected ASAP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (qbXOf)

200 Does Vic have an excused absence today? I miss his particular brand of pissed-offedness to start my day...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:43 PM (5buP8)

201 I'd buy Ginger Island and nobody would ever hear from me again.



Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:44 PM (8Fqe6)

202 I'd buy Ginger Island and nobody would ever hear from me again.

----

I'd rather buy Mary Anne island.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (NaV4z)

203 Indeed, people are becoming astonishingly dependent
on the internet for everything and it could all come down so very
easily. Its like a house of cards built on egshells on a teetering
platform above a raging sea. Any one of ten million things that goes
wrong causes you to have no internet at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:40 PM (39g3+)


quite.

have a landline. Make sure you have #s to friends, emergency numbers written on this old fashioned thing they call paper.

the internet is a luxury. and a very unreliable one.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (x3YFz)

204 This is the way the Studios do it. All raw footage is shipped back home for editing and effects from location.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 12:42 PM (cIoI4)

-------------------------------------
Not always. My neighbor worked on the F& F and other movies. He had to be on location for 6 months at a time. He handled the computer/SFX side. They work round the clock, 24 hours to get it done on time. Another neighbor is doing it now but he is in LA. Still, works nights.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (iQIUe)

205 202 I'd buy Ginger Island and nobody would ever hear from me again.

----

I'd rather buy Mary Anne island.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (NaV4z)


Thread winner...

Posted by: BB Wolf, IT guy... at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (qh617)

206 A North Korean propaganda unit said the U.S. ambassador to South Korea could face a 'bigger mishap' than the knife attack to his face last month if he does not stop insulting North Korea with 'laughable' accusations.

-
Don't be getting on your high horse. Obama's high Horseface will straighten that right wing terrorist out.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 17, 2015 12:46 PM (XUKZU)

207 >>Indeed, people are becoming astonishingly dependent
on the internet for everything and it could all come down so very
easily. Its like a house of cards built on egshells on a teetering
platform above a raging sea. Any one of ten million things that goes
wrong causes you to have no internet at all.

Actually, the core of the internet is extremely resilient and was architected that way from day 1. There are certainly spurs that are subject to issues, particularly last mile stuff, but the backbones of the internet would be extremely difficult to take out all at once.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 12:46 PM (g1DWB)

208 Don't know what ace was tweeting that made the news but he retweeted this pic


http://tinyurl.com/q9pl37j

Generation Pussy Snowflakes

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 12:47 PM (fWAjv)

209 I'd rather buy Mary Anne island.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM


Defended with crossbows, or longbows?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 17, 2015 12:47 PM (h4vJk)

210 Open Secrets shows Sam Wyly giving money to practically every Republican and every Republican Committee.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 17, 2015 12:24 PM (e8kgV)



George Soros chuckles.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 12:48 PM (oKE6c)

211 Reality shows are a major indication that networks are desparate. They are swiftly becoming Chapelle's "I'll suck your dick for five dollars!1!" crackhead.

I expect full-penetration pr0n to hit NBCBSABC within a couple of years ago.

What the network apologists fail to admit is that the number of people watching is only important when those people are the product. I don't see the production crew or Kevin Spacey whining about "ratings." Producers and artists already see the future.

When the networks realize that all their johns have died or moved on, they might wake up. But then, I thought the same about newspapers.

Posted by: jwpaine at April 17, 2015 12:48 PM (i0pY0)

212 uniformed recluse who would have trouble functioning in society.

Hey, I don't wear uniforms!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2015 12:48 PM (2Ojst)

213 Daughter and I driving down a road.

Daughter is disrespectful and texting furiously.

Me: "oh... shoot.... hey can I use your phone for a second?"

/rolls window down
/tosses phone

apoplectic.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (x3YFz)

214
Most landline phones are dependent on power. So, if your power goes out, yr're screwed. Have a spare old fashioned phone. Also, you may not be able to call instate during an emergency but you can usually call out of state. So, have a designated person.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (iQIUe)

215 Not always. My neighbor worked on the F& F and other movies. He had to be on location for 6 months at a time. He handled the computer/SFX side. They work round the clock, 24 hours to get it done on time. Another neighbor is doing it now but he is in LA. Still, works nights.
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:45 PM (iQIUe)

****

Yep, there are exceptions. Part of my business is renting ready to use stations in a plug and play config to accomplish this to studios from shooting locations. Biz on that side has been pretty good.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (3F6F8)

216 Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 12:46 PM (g1DWB)

----

Google up "Carrinton event". Solar storm that happened in 1859.

If that happened today.... SMOD would look like a minor inconvenience.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (NaV4z)

217 To rely on the Internet for anything is a fool's choice. Convenient? Yes. Beyond that, it is a fragile channel. Layer upon layer of complex technology. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 12:38 PM (cQ7p2)


------------------------------------------


The same could be said of all forms of electronic communication and entertainment now. I don't feel I'm taking any more of a risk with the internet as I am with "established" communication channels.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 12:50 PM (/HX7u)

218 "Anyone without access to the wide variety of entertainment and informational programming today would be a sorely uni[n]formed recluse who would have trouble functioning in society. "

In a society in which "entertainment and informational programming" is thought to have value, ok.

But more needs to be said about this "trouble" in "functioning."

I see a lot of young people with zero functional knowledge of world history and culture. They've never read classics. They've never heard a live piece of symphonic music. They don't know how to read music, can't write a Python script, can't draw, don't recognize common plants, can't throw a curve ball, and so on, and on, and on.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:51 PM (KZ7dE)

219 Trigger warning!!!

http://tinyurl.com/o54qpvr

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 17, 2015 12:51 PM (XUKZU)

220 If the internet goes down, we'll have to rely on crudely-sketched pr0n. The horror...the horror...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2015 12:51 PM (2Ojst)

221 Networks are dead to me

Posted by: People Corp at April 17, 2015 12:52 PM (TzeLs)

222 T9

I've confiscated computers at night and have left them at the office for a week.

It takes a day or two for them to discover that they're alive.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:52 PM (KZ7dE)

223 but the backbones of the internet would be extremely difficult to take out all at once.

That's the way I engineered it. The only thing that could hurt it would be global warming.

Posted by: AlGore, Super Genius at April 17, 2015 12:52 PM (5buP8)

224 the internet is a luxury. and a very unreliable one.
Posted by: Tango
---------------

I find it remarkable that people have all of their communication channels on a single wire. Not just that, but also that wire relying upon layer upon layer of complex technology, JUST AT THE USER END.

Keyboard->PC->Monitor->Modem->multilayers of software. Same for their 'telephone', and TV.

That's without addressing what happens after curb, which is a hell of a lot more complex..., and fragile.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 12:53 PM (cQ7p2)

225 Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 12:34 PM (8Fqe6)

Ha, k.

I'm just wondering what the real range will be on those babies.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:53 PM (AkOaV)

226 Most landline phones are dependent on power. So, if
your power goes out, yr're screwed. Have a spare old fashioned phone.
Also, you may not be able to call instate during an emergency but you
can usually call out of state. So, have a designated person.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (iQIUe)


Generator. Well. Solar rechargeable batteries.

zombie apocalypse! on it.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:53 PM (x3YFz)

227 >>Google up "Carrinton event". Solar storm that happened in 1859

Yea, but that wouldn't just take out the internet, that would take out just about everything electronic.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (g1DWB)

228 Posted by: AlGore, Super Genius at April 17, 2015 12:52 PM (5buP

Well... the real chokepoint for "the internet" is the undersea fiber cables that connect north america to the rest of the world.

Yeah, there are a bunch of them, but... not THAT many.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (AkOaV)

229 if any part of it fails, repairs will be effected ASAP.

Sure, they'll do the best they can as fast as they can. But look at how people freak out when their phone runs out of power. Just a few hours enrages people when the internet goes down they have no idea what to do without the net.

And people are downloading and streaming content instead of owning it. "DVDs? CDs? Dude its the 20th century!" Yeah, but I own my content. Its mine. Forever. And its right here no matter what happens to the internet. If I want, I can make a copy and loan it out. Or burn my own tapes/CDs that aren't vapor.

Buy your content and keep it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (39g3+)

230 How's the cost per kWh of that kind of battery these days, T9? Coming down?

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (KZ7dE)

231 Wifey just emailed me:
"I just got my first check today!" (She has a new job)
My reply: "You know how we traditionally celebrate First Check Day, don't you?"
Her: "naked bacchanalia?"
Heh.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM (5buP8)

232 It takes a day or two for them to discover that they're alive.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:52 PM (KZ7dE)


it's funny. It really is.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM (x3YFz)

233 Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:49 PM (NaV4z)

Yeah... but my iPhone not connecting to my wifi would be the least of my problems if a carrington event were to happen.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM (AkOaV)

234 @95

Youre not fooling anyone

Posted by: BDP at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM (sDBB0)

235 "they have no idea what to do without the net"

Boys will pick up sticks. So eventually, they'll re-invent civilization.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:56 PM (KZ7dE)

236 In case you missed it, 'Zits' cartoon from yesterday, re Millennials http://tinyurl.com/pcwy6oa

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 12:56 PM (cQ7p2)

237 Most landline phones are dependent on power. So, if your power goes out, yr're screwed.

Uh? Back in the day the lines carried power to the phones so they'd still function if main power went out. (They still do, there are highly questionable "hacks" for using them as emergency power for charging cell phones. Officially frowned upon, but in an emergency...)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 17, 2015 12:56 PM (DT3rQ)

238 How's the cost per kWh of that kind of battery these days, T9? Coming down?

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (KZ7dE)


need to clarify: solar battery recharger. Genny isn't solar. That's next. One we have is diesel.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (x3YFz)

239 re my #211:

Delete "ago". and add "House of Cards" to the Kevin Spacey sentence.

My thoughts are like water... being passed by an old man with prostate problems.

Posted by: jwpaine at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (i0pY0)

240 >>Well... the real chokepoint for "the internet" is the undersea fiber cables that connect north america to the rest of the world.

>>Yeah, there are a bunch of them, but... not THAT many.

Quite a few actually. This is what I did for a number of years back in the day.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (g1DWB)

241 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM

Now she, sir, is a keeper!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (h4vJk)

242 Trigger warning!!!



http://tinyurl.com/o54qpvr



Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 17, 2015 12:51 PM (XUKZU)


Heh! And Boing-boing is trying to apologize, sort of. Why can't they just have the stones to flat-out say, "Look, fucktards. Transsexuals are fucked-up, stupid, broken people, and it's perfectly OK to make them the butt of jokes. Suck it up!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (qbXOf)

243 mike

speaking of that, I think I have a short in my attic somewhere

4 hours till the weekend

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:58 PM (KZ7dE)

244 and the well pump is just 120V AC standard.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 12:58 PM (x3YFz)

245 Trigger warning!!!

http://tinyurl.com/o54qpvr
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 17, 2015 12:51 PM (XUKZU)

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That is the fcuking stupidest issue Ive read about all week..... and THATS saying something.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 12:59 PM (NaV4z)

246 need to clarify: solar battery recharger. Genny isn't solar. That's next. One we have is diesel.

ah

did you look into natural gas? I've been thinking about it

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:59 PM (KZ7dE)

247 Oh, Seinfeld. For some reason I was thinking Jerry Springer.
I guess I didn't even know the dude had a first name. Kinda the same, only one has glasses?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 17, 2015 01:01 PM (sH832)

248 Boys will pick up sticks. So eventually, they'll re-invent civilization.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:56 PM (KZ7dE)


so read my mind.

just toss 'em out into the wild.

they'll come back covered in mud and need some band-aids.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:01 PM (x3YFz)

249 And people are downloading and streaming content instead of owning it. "DVDs? CDs? Dude its the 20th century!" Yeah, but I own my content. Its mine. Forever. And its right here no matter what happens to the internet. If I want, I can make a copy and loan it out. Or burn my own tapes/CDs that aren't vapor. Buy your content and keep it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 12:54 PM (39g3+)


--------------------------------------


It's called redundancy. One of the things I learned early on in life (yes, even before the internet and computers) is always have a backup. Whether it's your papers or your favorite music, money, or communications.

The military taught me to have some kind of an idea about Plan B.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 01:01 PM (/HX7u)

250 She was turning her life around!!

Oh wait...

http://tinyurl.com/nju4yan


Student's MOTHER leaves teacher unconscious in school hall after 'kicking and strangling' her to the ground ' as other kids piled in.
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Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 17, 2015 01:01 PM (fWAjv)

251 Boom!

Margaret: "Holy crap! What was that noise"
Harry: "I don't know, let's check on the Internet".
Harry: "Hmm, I can't get a connection."
Margaret: "I'll call Mary.."
Harry: "Margaret..., the Internet IS our phone connection."
Margaret: "Oh. Well..., turn on the TV."
Harry: "Margaret, the Internet IS our TV connection."
Margaret: "Oh."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 01:01 PM (cQ7p2)

252 42


Cable TV free over 2 years now. Weird to watch things at the gym because most everything looks so brain-deadeningly moronic.
=========
Yup.

The less TV you watch, the stupider the remaining stuff looks.

I see a promo for a new show and I'm like, "nah, doesn't look so good."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 17, 2015 01:02 PM (ZvKdv)

253 36 Interesting that the internet was made a public utility about the same time that TV is starting to die.
Posted by: no good deed at April 17, 2015 11:55 AM (ZKGnj)


*Nods with chin in palm*

...and the birdcage liner of record.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at April 17, 2015 01:02 PM (QF9nR)

254 ah



did you look into natural gas? I've been thinking about it

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 12:59 PM (KZ7dE)


we run on propane.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (x3YFz)

255 Recently learned Jerry Seinfeld is a Scientologist. After watching HBO's "Going Clear".....? Weird.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)

256 Content copyright.

There was a time when you could buy software that would rip and burn DVDs, and the DVD content you had purchased was, in fact, yours. But Hollywood, and the Federal Government extended copyright 'protection' and unilaterally declared that you, as a consumer do not 'own' content. You purchase a license to view said content under certain restrictions as decided by Hollywood and the Feds.

After the new laws, Microsoft set the kill bit on some component parts of software you had already purchased, and installed back in the day when it was legal, rendering your license to use software to copy DVD content invalid.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (7ehQ2)

257 YouTube to the rescue...

Just today, I found a YouTube video that explained what is wrong with my Holder sidewalk tractor. I've had this thing into two diesel shops and no one could figure out why it wouldn't start.

Apparently, glow plugs are wired in series. That means that if the connection between cylinder 1 and 2 is hosed, cylinder 3 and 4 will not get power. The engine will crank and sound like it wants to start, but it just won't fire.

Some guy with a Bobcat (same 48HP Kubota turbo diesel) went step by step and showed how to check and change them out.

Fuck.

This is truly a world of wonders.

Posted by: jwest at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (9ZZd+)

258 they'll come back covered in mud and need some band-aids.
Posted by: Tango
-------------------

Yessssss.

Posted by: Lord of the Flies at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (cQ7p2)

259 Yeah... but my iPhone not connecting to my wifi would be the least of my problems if a carrington event were to happen.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 12:55 PM (AkOaV)

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Not if.

When.

Im not a paranoid prepper type. But this will happen.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (NaV4z)

260 solar gennys are a bit pricey, but once I have enough bottle caps saved up that's the final upgrade to FOB T

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (x3YFz)

261 they'll come back covered in mud and need some band-aids.

...eat a ginormous dinner, sleep like a rock and then get up and do it again the next day.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (0HooB)

262 Apparently, glow plugs are wired in series. That means that if the connection between cylinder 1 and 2 is hosed, cylinder 3 and 4 will not get power.
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So..., just like the internet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 01:05 PM (cQ7p2)

263 My 5 year old daughter just does not understand the concept of TV since most everything she has watched is on demand. We recently got SlingTV and she threw a fit when the show she wanted to watch couldn't appear on her whim like Netflix. I found myself in an odd spot trying to explain how TV works but she still didn't understand why it wouldn't work the way that Netflix or Amazon or straight online website streaming works.

So if TV wasn't over for us older folks, it certainly will have no place in the rising generation.

Funny that in the Star Trek universe they predicted that TV would be over by 2044. I think it will be done much sooner than that.

Posted by: arcadehero at April 17, 2015 01:05 PM (27BfC)

264
we run on propane.
Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (x3YFz)

Sir, I'd like to talk to you about the finest propane accessories a man can buy!

Posted by: Hank Hill at April 17, 2015 01:05 PM (2Ojst)

265 ...eat a ginormous dinner, sleep like a rock and then get up and do it again the next day.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (0HooB)

******

As we used to call it, a Summer day.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 01:06 PM (3F6F8)

266 "they have no idea what to do without the net"


Boys will pick up sticks. So eventually, they'll re-invent civilization.



And use them as swords or rifles.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 01:06 PM (8Fqe6)

267 YES, Harry Reid is a racist .. and probably a sexist and a proctologist

Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 17, 2015 01:06 PM (e8kgV)

268 We've also never had cable. Shit, I'm still running a CRT (90's era Sony Trinitron, f'ng thing WON'T quit). My wife calls it our Amish TV.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2015 01:06 PM (5buP8)

269 Another thing sure to be dead, too? Seeing movies in a theater.

Direct TV and Amazon is now offering some movies the same day they arrive in theaters. Say buh-bye to waiting months for a movie or tv show to be made available on dvd or via streaming.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2015 01:07 PM (2TN4k)

270 As we used to call it, a Summer day.

When I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No small critter went unmolested.

Damn, that was fun.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:08 PM (0HooB)

271 Yea, but that wouldn't just take out the internet, that would take out just about everything electronic.

Exactly. They barely noticed it back in the mid 19th century. It would bring our entire civilization to a halt today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:08 PM (39g3+)

272 Another thing sure to be dead, too? Seeing movies in a theater.

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Add in... "interracting with other human beings as human beings"

My wife teaches. She already talks about how many fewer kids have interpersonal skills in relating with other kids.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:09 PM (NaV4z)

273 Im not a paranoid prepper type. But this will happen.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (NaV4z)


heh. this conversation comes up a lot. what's too much? What's not enough?

it's an ROI (return on investment) analysis.

meds, food, power, water, and if things go pear shaped there will be enough of everything else just laying around.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:09 PM (x3YFz)

274 When I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No small critter went unmolested. Damn, that was fun.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:08 PM (0HooB)


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Yup. And no distance remained unwalked or unbicycled.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 01:10 PM (/HX7u)

275 No small critter went unmolested.
Damn, that was fun.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy,




And the chickens are most happy you grew up.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2015 01:10 PM (8Fqe6)

276 Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 12:57 PM (g1DWB)

you dropped the underwater cables?

That's pretty badass.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:10 PM (AkOaV)

277 solar gennys are a bit pricey, but once I have enough bottle caps saved up that's the final upgrade to FOB T
Posted by: TangoNine
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I keep my eyes open for large used batteries. Before purchase I use a borrowed load tester and hydrometer to test their state. I now have 4 1000AH lead-acid batteries that I keep on a smart float-charger. Enough to keep essential electronics working for a while, solar charging is the next step.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (cQ7p2)

278 255 Recently learned Jerry Seinfeld is a Scientologist. After watching HBO's "Going Clear".....? Weird.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)

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I thought he didnt stick with it and stopped attending many years ago.

Remember, in Hwd they target actors and professional people. They send B level actresses to rope them in. I had a couple of friends that the actress who was in Natil Lampoon Vacation was trying to lure them in. She played the sister. My supervisor was always being invited to the Celebrity Center because we were very near it. They gave her all these free books and she gave them to us as joke gifts. Nobody laughed.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (iQIUe)

279 >>Exactly. They barely noticed it back in the mid 19th century. It would bring our entire civilization to a halt today.

Be far, far away from any metro area if that happens. Things would go Mad Max pretty quickly I think.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (g1DWB)

280 When I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No small critter went unmolested.

Damn, that was fun.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:08 PM


Amen, Brother Moron! Just one small nit to pick, re: phrasing....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (h4vJk)

281 "...and there's nothing special about it."

Huh?

The Flash is a great show. I don't need it to be on a "special" medium.

I hate Seinfeld. Snickers at his own jokes while he says them. Yeah. Great delivery there, pal.

Posted by: RKae at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (zu8kK)

282 Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:04 PM (NaV4z)

Well, here's how I look at it...

It will most likely happen again at SOME POINT.

But how many generations of people have lived and died since the last time it happened?

What are the chances it happens again while I'm alive?

Probably pretty slim.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (AkOaV)

283 heh. this conversation comes up a lot. what's too much? What's not enough?

it's an ROI (return on investment) analysis.

meds, food, power, water, and if things go pear shaped there will be enough of everything else just laying around.
Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:09 PM (x3YFz)

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Yeah.... my wife teases me. We have a few cases of bottled water and MREs for two or three weeks. Thats it.

But with the mountain of small arms and the tonnage of ammo in the reloading room..... we can always take more to eat....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (NaV4z)

284 Boys will pick up sticks. So eventually, they'll re-invent civilization.

Sure, in the long term. But in the short term? Imagine your child without the internet in any form. Imagine the fit they throw and the absolute helplessness they would evidence. "I'm BOOOOORRRRED!!!! There's nothing to DOOOOO!!!"

Take them to a nice dinner or a concert or something where they can't use their phone or PS2 or whatever. How long before they are itching themselves and crawling the walls like a heroin addict?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (39g3+)

285 Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2015 01:11 PM (g1DWB)

Heh. Yeah, but where do you think all of the people from the cities will go?

That's right bud. That's right.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (AkOaV)

286 Direct TV and Amazon is now offering some movies the
same day they arrive in theaters. Say buh-bye to waiting months for a
movie or tv show to be made available on dvd or via streaming.


Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2015 01:07 PM (2TN4k)


But then you don't get to hear a-holes yakking loudly through the movie, often with spoilers, or enjoy the semi-cleaned movie theater. You don't even have anyone shooting at the screen.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (oKE6c)

287 hen I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went
unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No
small critter went unmolested. Damn, that was fun.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at April 17, 2015 01:08 PM (0HooB)





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Yup. And no distance remained unwalked or unbicycled.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 01:10 PM (/HX7u)


yup. Just be back by dinner.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (x3YFz)

288 When I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No small critter went unmolested. Damn, that was fun.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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Same here. It was heaven.
Slingshots, BB guns, dammed creeks, flimsy tree houses, bicycle, holes dug ( I remain mystified by that to this day), rope swings, barefoot all summer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (cQ7p2)

289 But how many generations of people have lived and died since the last time it happened?

What are the chances it happens again while I'm alive?

Probably pretty slim.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (AkOaV)

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1859 was how long ago???

We *just* missed getting clobbered in 2012 by a few degrees of orbit.

We've been digitally plugged in for ONE generation .... maybe.???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (NaV4z)

290 You don't even have anyone shooting at the screen.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (oKE6c)


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Or shooting at you.

Posted by: Soona at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (/HX7u)

291 My wife teaches. She already talks about how many fewer kids have interpersonal skills in relating with other kids.

This is a known phenomenon. Several studies have been done showing that younger people lack the basic skills for personal interaction and up close conversation. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. I wrote about this a while back, actually

http://tinyurl.com/ldrhlgr

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (39g3+)

292 "...I think he's right that the delivery mechanism of tv stations and networks and schedules is dead -- or at least dying."

'Dead' and 'Dying' are misnomers, overstatements. Seinfield is right the majornetworks no longer exercise a near-monopoly on news and entertainment broadcasting but they still wield immense influence and power. It would be more accurate to say networks are readjusting tochanging market situations but will likely remain the primary media resource for several key political/economic demographic blocs, particularly the elderly, for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (XHR9b)

293 Take them to a nice dinner or a concert or something
where they can't use their phone or PS2 or whatever. How long before
they are itching themselves and crawling the walls like a heroin addict?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:13 PM (39g3+)


1 word: fishin'

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:16 PM (x3YFz)

294 Add in... "interacting with other human beings as human beings"

there was a short scifi story back in the '60's where humans had no direct contact with other humans, Everything was done electronically. This was in the years before the internet. It was set up as a murder mystery being investigated by a robot detective.

And so, here we are, uniformed reclusive losers unable to have a face to conversation in a civil fashion even with our own family.

as if I care.

Posted by: Spectating the Absurd at April 17, 2015 01:16 PM (7ehQ2)

295 Corgis.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 17, 2015 01:17 PM (XrHO0)

296 No small critter went unmolested.

Damn, that was fun.



Damn squirrel fuckers

Posted by: The chicken at April 17, 2015 01:18 PM (S+el1)

297 Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2015 01:15 PM (NaV4z)

All true.

I'm a gambler though.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:18 PM (AkOaV)

298 Heh. Yeah, but where do you think all of the people from the cities will go?

Well for a few weeks they'll just be looting and pillaging. Then after a while a goodly number, probably a majority, will die from being killed for their stuff and just not knowing what to do without the corner store or delivery. Of the remaining survivors, how many really even know where food comes from? Once the zoo and all the rats and pigeons are eaten, and disease has killed probably half of the survivors, maybe then people will start looking in rural areas for food.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:19 PM (39g3+)

299 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:19 PM (39g3+)

Well I know after I finish off my giraffe kabobs (from the local zoo, I like where your heads at), I'm going toward where the food and waters at. Which I think most people can figure out, is away from the city.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 17, 2015 01:21 PM (AkOaV)

300 After the new laws, Microsoft set the kill bit on some component parts
of software you had already purchased, and installed back in the day
when it was legal, rendering your license to use software to copy DVD
content invalid.


Fascinating.

Posted by: Linux geek copying DVD's at April 17, 2015 01:27 PM (4WhSY)

301 people will start looking in rural areas for food.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2015 01:19 PM (39g3+)


there was a russian general (too lazy to google him) who said he hated fighting Americans because we don't follow doctrine.

Last night I penned a paper on a rolling ambush (no details: TTPs and all that) which I'll submit maybe tuesday, point being: Don't come out here. Yer not going to make it.

Posted by: TangoNine at April 17, 2015 01:28 PM (x3YFz)

302 "When I was a wee Moron, no neighborhood tree went unclimbed. No creek went unexplored. No dirt clod went unthrown. No small critter went unmolested. Damn, that was fun."

You just described my boyhood.

Plus, Playboy in the treehouse, 60' up.

Posted by: Feh at April 17, 2015 01:29 PM (KZ7dE)

303 Ace,

It could be far worse than you suggest.

If I were one of the studios why should I even bother with the cable providers anymore?? I have to identify a content line up with them. Then I have to negotiate a price. If we get to loggerheads (yeah I am talking about you TimeWarner...), I might have my brand damaged and blocked. Far better to come out with a direct package of my own like Hulu or Crackle. Mr/Mrs consumer, you can have access to the entire MGM catalog except for the current year for $5/mo. For $10/mo we will even include any release older than 60 days.

* No more dealing with a program manager.
* Reduced risk on my income streams. (4 majors vs millions of individual viewers.)
* More income that I am doing now.

Once the studios recognize this, TV is REALLY dead.

Posted by: johnmc at April 17, 2015 01:54 PM (ZVUS/)

304 As TV continues to go the way of the Dodo Bird, I am continually struck by a seemingly throwaway line in one of my favorite Star Trek Next Gen TV episodes where the Enterprise finds space pods containing a 20th century housewife, country music singer and a business tycoon, frozen at death to maybe be revived later etc.

One scene has the country music singer asking Cmdr Data if there was anything on the "boob tube" to watch aboard the 24th century ship.

Data answered "ah...television. that particular form of entertainment did not last beyond the early 21st century."

Posted by: MikeD at April 17, 2015 02:16 PM (uKJIC)

305 I've got a pen. And I've got a phone. And a VHS player. Be kind, rewind.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 17, 2015 02:19 PM (xkSSa)

306 Being older, plan to hire out to smart people when SHTF occurs.
Sign will read: will draw fire for food

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at April 17, 2015 02:33 PM (uPxUo)

307 Seinfeld isn't 55. He will turn 61 on April 29.

Posted by: KS at April 17, 2015 05:14 PM (CVMDZ)

308 I might watch ACM Awards Sunday, live, but other than that i DVR or internet all of it. Please bear in mind i live in the country, my DBS is better than my internet for video.

Posted by: hurricane567 at April 18, 2015 12:47 AM (XWXB+)

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