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Overnight Open Thread (4-9-2014)

And just remember that this is the stuff that wasn't worthy of my ONT at The Federalist. They have standards there. Also paychecks.

Quote of the Day I - Yeah But The Culture War Is Interested in You Edition

By now, we know the basic ingredients of a typical skirmish in Culture War 4.0. It goes something like this: a) a leftist claque starts loudly pushing the "correct" Culture War position onto b) a field previously considered fun, innocuous, apolitical, purely personal, or recreational, and c) accusing anyone who opposes them of being a racist, sexist, bigot who relies on oppressive "privilege" to push everyone else down, while these claims are d) backed up by a biased press that swallows the line of attack uncritically and repeats it.

Any of that sound familiar? It's just daily life for anyone on the Right, and it's slowly becoming daily life for everybody else. Ask Comet Guy.

The innocuous field in which the personal is suddenly discovered to be very political might be fashion, music, toys, sports, or sex, not to mention weddings, flowers, cake-baking, and pizza.

Or video games. Or science fiction.

Which explains the latest, wide new front of the Great Social Justice War: Gamergate and its latest outgrowth, the battle over the Hugo Awards, a prestigious annual fiction award for science fiction and fantasy writers.

-- Robert Tracinski

Quote of the Day II

The revelations in these two pieces prompted the Washington Examiner's Ashe Schow to ask, "Has the Rolling Stone gang-rape author EVER corroborated a story?"

Never forget that Sabrina Erdely was disciplined by Stephen Glass (!!) for submitting a fabricated story. Obviously this was a rare demerit on an otherwise illustrious career.

Quote of the Day III - National Day of Anti-Bullying Pink Edition

If you're thinking, "Hang on. Day of Pink? Didn't we just have that?" No, that was Pink Shirt Day, the last Wednesday in February. This is Day of Pink, second Wednesday in April. Like the King streetcar, there'll be another one along in a minute, enthusiastically sponsored by Scotiabank, Royal Bank, ViaRail and all the other corporate bigwigs.

If you're thinking, "Hang on. Pink awareness-raising? Isn't that something to do with breast cancer?" No, that's pink ribbons. Unfortunately, all the hues for awareness-raising ribbons are taken: not just white for bone cancer and yellow for adenosarcoma, but also (my current favourite) periwinkle for acid reflux. We need to raise awareness of how all the awareness-raising ribbons have been taken, so anti-bullying groups have been obliged to move on from ribbons to shirts.

If this sounds vaguely familiar, it is. P.G. Wodehouse, The Code Of The Woosters (193:

"Don't you ever read the papers? Roderick Spode is the founder and head of the Saviours of Britain, a Fascist organization better known as the Black Shorts ."

"By the way, when you say 'shorts', you mean 'shirts', of course."

"No. By the time Spode formed his association, there were no shirts left. He and his adherents wear black shorts."

-- Mark Steyn

Quote of the Day IV

There is the love and marriage and family kind of happiness, which is exceedingly boring to describe but nonetheless is important to have and dreadful not to have.

-- PJ O'Rourke

GLoP: "We Are Prepared To Believe You and Offer Counseling"

This week's GLoP podcast on Ricochet with Jonah Goldberg, Rob Long, and John Podhoretz was particularly good so I'm just going to steal this long excerpt compiled by Ed Driscoll. I am however omitting the part where they talked about their experiences at orgies. And no I'm not just making that up.

JOHN PODHORETZ: You talk about people's ordinary skepticism, or common skepticism. I would submit to you that once something becomes a hot ideologically-charged topic, that skepticism is not only suspended in most cases, but it is understood by everyone around - on all sides of the debate - that it is dangerous to your reputation, to your sanity, and to the good working order of your day, to even whisper a breath of skepticism.

* * * * * *

JONAH GOLDBERG: I read the entire Columbia report, and there is no allegation that anybody except for "Jackie" lied or purposefully misrepresented the truth. You're absolutely right John, about people losing their skepticism when they get caught up in the sort of ideological St. Vitas' Dance of the moment, and we see this on a grand scale with things like global warming and other groupthink problems. But this was a situation where it wasn't just their skepticism, but it was the mechanisms and procedures that were in place. At time and time again, the rules said, we've got to get a second source on this. The rules said, we got to [give] the accused a chance to comment. The rules said, we've got confirm the date and the identity of these people. And in each and every step, Jann Wenner and Will Dana and Sabrina Erdely all decided at one point or another to go another way. They all decided to drop the rules that they had in place. That's why I think this is much more like the Dan Rather stuff. Because this was just something they wanted to be true for ideological and political reasons so badly, that they thought it was worth dropping the normal rules.

And it does get to this other issue, which nobody wants to talk about, which is, what is it about college campuses today that sets up an environment where some many young people feel compelled to lie about their oppression? It's not just this "Jackie" girl, who lied and lied and lied for months on end to a reporter, and was fine with her story being written, as long as no one fact-checked it. (Which is a kind of dementia in a lot of ways.) But also on college campuses after college campuses, racial hoaxes happen all the time, and administrations shut them down because they don't like the bad publicity.

It's a state of hysteria - it's very much like Salem. There was the one at - was it Oberlin? - where someone came out in a white blanket on a cold day, and the first instinct was: Oh my God, the Klan is here!

ROB LONG: The Klan is at Oberlin! Yeah, they're at Oberlin.

PODHORETZ: Yeah, they're taking cello lessons.

GOLDBERG: And they had days of meetings and panic about that, and they wanted to see if accused racist children would float in the horse trough or not! It was just like a total witch trial mentality and this is going on campuses.

LONG: Why is that?

GOLDBERG: .And Rolling Stone suspended the rules, because they believed this girl so much.

PODHORETZ: OK, can I give you my theory about college campuses? We can talk about the professoriate, and we can talk about student activist groups, and all of this. But there is a third force on college campuses. And it is this bureaucracy of counseling. In field after field, in gender, in race, in sexuality, there is now this bureaucracy that has come up to help counsel kids with their problems on college campuses.

And one of the problems is, it's a classic thing in economics: if you subsidize something, you get more of it. So if you have counseling bureaucracies, one of the things that a counselor in problems involving gender is going to find is more problems involving gender. More discrimination. More hostility. Same with race. Same with LGBT. And when you create a permanently-employed bureaucracy that is in part enriched by these things happening, because of course, then maybe you can hire more counselors and you are more central to the university's mission, and your center gets more money, and you get raises, and all of that.

And you believe in it! I'm not saying by the way, that counselors don't believe that there is an epidemic of rape on college campuses, and that if you're black, your life is a misery at all college campuses. And if you're gay, terrible things are going to happen to you, because somebody looks at you cross-eyed when you walk across the campus.

They believe all this. But it is also in their innate interest, and it also in the interest in the campus itself to be able say, "Hey, you know what?! Your kids are safe. [Adopts sing-song-y nanny voice] Look, if anything's wrong they can go to the counseling center!"

LONG: Isn't it also this weird thing that...I'm now going to say something completely incendiary, without a shred of proof or backup. But it seems to me that these are all white kids running around saying "we have been raped" or [the victims of] "micro-aggression," and all that stuff.

It's like they have envy. They get to college after 20 or 30 years of very complicated ethnic and racial diversity training on college campuses. Now the white kids want in, so everyone's got to be a victim. Everyone arrives in college as this horribly wounded, vulnerable bird. And college is supposed to be place where you're sort of massaged and you're padded and this institution of therapy around you. To try to make it OK about the trauma that you've suffered to get there, to get to Oberlin.

PODHORETZ: But it doesn't have to be everybody; that's partially, I think Jonah's point. It can be two people, it can be three people, on a campus of 4,000 or 25,000, or 50,000, who can turn the place upside-down. Somebody paints a swastika on his own door, and the entire place revolved around this fact for an entire week. It is very empowering of dangerously deluded or fallacious behavior.

GOLDBERG: We're in a weird Nietzschian transition moment where victimhood is the way you assert your will to power.

LONG: Yes, exactly right.

Also: This Is What Happens When the Army Has People Whose Entire Careers Are Based on Finding Racism in the Army

They had one job. And they were incompetent at that.

But that's not even enough, now that we have tens of thousands of useless people whose job is to conduct Reconstruction, as if that had not been done, already, historically speaking; and who work most often at cross-purposes to institutional goals of unity and solidarity in the ranks. No, in recent years the DOD budget has become a Christmas Tree of handouts to professional Diversity Firms, the noxious product of all those university racialist Grievance Studies departments. So it's bad enough that your unit must bear the dead weight of an EO NCO who is, most often, a complete waste of skin. But now he doesn't even have to do his single actual duty, his annual Don't Be A Racist In My Army brief, because it's been outsourced to some gang of racial grievance entrepreneurs who are connected to Administration figures. So now, some fat chick from White Guilt Industries® comes in and reads the slides, and gets $20k for the day she goes around from unit to unit telling all the races they should be at loggerheads.

...The Army EO Program has decided that they will respond to this. How so? Everyone gets to experience more EO Lectures, and the EO NCOs will get more training on how to teach White Privilege to auditoriums full of privileged PFCs. (Didn't feel privileged when you were a PFC? That's the "Luxury of Obliviousness," Jeff Davis). Firing the racist presenter? Oh, no. That might start a deluge.

U.S. Gov't to Americans Trapped in Yemen: Maybe Call India

All of Snape's Scenes in the Harry Potter Films Put in Chronological Order

And they paint a much more heroic picture of Snape showing how was able to eventually overcome his own bitterness and tragic past, remain loyal to Dumbledore at great cost, protect and even come to love Harry despite his own flaws and emotional conflicts.

Hogwarts Express Suspended From British Rail Network After 100 mph Near-Miss

Damned reckless wizards with no regard for muggles.

Welcome to net neutrality! We're going to start taxing your broadband now.

Every month, consumers pay a small fee on their phone bills for a federal program that uses the money - a total of $8.8 billion raised nationwide last year - to provide affordable access to telecommunications services in rural areas, underserved inner cities and schools.

Now the fee could start appearing on broadband bills too, in a major expansion of the nearly two-decade-old Universal Service Fund program.

[snip]

FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, a Democrat, argued that even if broadband firms are required to contribute, there are no plans to increase the annual size of the fund.

Well no plans at the very moment of the quote. Which has already passed.

I've Seen the Movies and Trust Me This Will End in Tears and Fire

The New Democratic Plan: The Good News is That You Will No Longer Work For The Man

The bad news is that you will be working and paying higher taxes for The Retired Man.

Social Security is becoming a worse deal for each generation. Those now joining the workforce are expected to pay more into the system than they get out of it. Warren's plan is to shower more money on the current generation of retirees, but without increasing the deficit over the next 10 years. That means, in all likelihood, raising taxes on current workers while also increasing the program's long-run fiscal deficit.

How States Are Conducting Opportunistic Gun Confiscations

Many police departments have a policy of never returning any guns taken into custody even if they are required to return them later by the law. Some destroy them as a matter of course and then make the owners go to court to get reimbursement for their guns.

Piketty's Logic Gap

Saudi Fatwa: Eating Your Wife Is Halal

And they mean in the Donner Party way - not the slangy, more enjoyable way.

Saudi Arabia's highest religious authority has issued a fatwa allowing a starving man to eat his wife in order to save himself, causing a stir among the Kingdom's residents, London-based daily al-Quds al-Arabi reported.

Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, according to the report, said that the act would display the wife's obedience to her husband and her willingness to become one with his flesh. [...]

NASA Set To Investigate Giant Fart Methane Cloud Over the 4 Corners Region of the US

fartclound

If You Can't Trust Human Breast Milk Bought Off the Internet, What Can You Trust?

fakemilkweb

Thought For the Day

118 Supple yet arrogant glans is a good band name.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 09, 2015 06:13 PM (rwI+c)

Yahoo group. That is all.

Come on be a smartie and join the yahoo group party! For the children.

And my lo-fi Twitter spew.

Tonight's post brought to you by the Venn diagram of people who touch you 'down there':

too_true_1912

Notice: Do not taunt or annoy happy-fun ball. Do not taunt or annoy host. Do not complain about ONT topics or ONT tardiness. Do not violate the Hidden Law. Do not speak of rhubarb. Do not use the ONT white zone except for loading and unloading. No horseplay in the pool area. No flaunting of ampersands unless you brought enough for everyone. Boasts of physical endowments MUST be backed by photographic evidence. Also you are all now on double secret probation.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:24 PM




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1 oof

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at April 09, 2015 11:24 PM (9R4HJ)

2 Woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:24 PM (ixHW6)

3 *Plants Flag*

I claim this for Slapweasel Industries!

(A Slapweasel Farms, LLC.)

U-S-A!
U-S-A!
U-S-A!

*burp*

...'scuse me.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:25 PM (16bOT)

4 Well, there it is, at last.

Posted by: Null at April 09, 2015 11:25 PM (xjpRj)

5 Jeebus Maet. No more credit from the liqour store?

Don't do this, don't do that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:26 PM (ixHW6)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:26 PM (KCxzN)

7 I can't handle it when I think we're not getting the ont.

Posted by: Alana at April 09, 2015 11:26 PM (6tMcU)

8 Quick Takes - Intolerant "Tolerance", Hypocritical "Tolerance", and Repressive "Tolerance"

The focus this time: The Intolerance of "Tolerance"

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8771

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 09, 2015 11:26 PM (0Ew3K)

9 Whew! Daddy still loves us!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 09, 2015 11:26 PM (UKJFR)

10 "Us govt to Americans... maybe call India"

*salutes the flag*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 09, 2015 11:27 PM (M6P4+)

11 That Venn diagram is missing a portion of Nevada named "Searchlight".

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:27 PM (16bOT)

12 Crikey, thas alotta linkies.

Thank you, Maet.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 09, 2015 11:27 PM (EwcYx)

13 Yeah, ONT......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:28 PM (uKyga)

14 ..."Do not violate the Hidden Law."

This shit worries me a little.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:28 PM (16bOT)

15 Still stuck in WI. All flights cancelled out of App today.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:29 PM (ucDmr)

16 Just a quickie then. Our government got all of our nationals out of Yemen by a secret means and our MFM press wanted to know how the (Conservative) government did it! They didn't make a big deal of it but still... it's a FUCKING secret for a reason! Dumbshits.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 09, 2015 11:29 PM (kivUY)

17 But, I'm already drinking and pissy, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:29 PM (uKyga)

18 I posted this already in the previous thread (the not ONT ONT) but I'll bring it up again. Church goers in the DC Metro (VA-MD-DC)area need to be careful this Sunday. I got a email from mine warning that a Mob of SJW Cultists will be protesting some Church's in the area, mine included. So if they are at yours, don't react to them, at all. They will sue. Apparently Lawfare is there thing. The email didn't say who it was but my guess its the LGBT fascists. In a way its a pretty good indication if your church is doing the right thing by who is protesting against you.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 09, 2015 11:31 PM (klBak)

19 EO and SHARP reps are becoming the new Political Officers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 09, 2015 11:31 PM (10ydV)

20 Thanks, Maet, for another fantastic ONT!

Posted by: Mindy in the land of unvaccinated kindergarteners at April 09, 2015 11:31 PM (ncfqH)

21 A fucking picture of Mr. Moo Moo & his mom. Sick

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:31 PM (ixHW6)

22 Well, I guess I really do suck then.

Posted by: Null at April 09, 2015 11:32 PM (xjpRj)

23 That was a good podcast.

As a sidenote - Jonah Goldberg's laugh cracks me up. It doesn't even matter if I think what he is laughing at isn't all that funny.

Posted by: Dave S. at April 09, 2015 11:32 PM (UvR6d)

24 Welcome the Spent the Night waiting for the Overnight Thread!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. damn well worth the wait, Maet!

Posted by: Jim at April 09, 2015 11:33 PM (RzZOc)

25 "They will sue. Apparently Lawfare is there thing."


Don't touch. Just tell them to FO.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:33 PM (uKyga)

26 21: MH: And, a fine looking mon she is. How you doin? Snow?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:33 PM (ucDmr)

27 15 Still stuck in WI. All flights cancelled out of App today.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:29 PM (ucDmr)

Rain or snow? We had rain most of the day. Snowing now

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:33 PM (ixHW6)

28 BTW, the hashtag #ThingsBetterThanTheIranDeal is trending Twitter. Some good ones there...

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat). at April 09, 2015 11:33 PM (0Ew3K)

29 " fucking picture of Mr. Moo Moo his mom. Sick"


Please, please, don't save or re-post. Nobody needs that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:34 PM (uKyga)

30 "Well, I guess I really do suck then."
-Posted by: Null at April 09, 2015 11:32 PM (xjpRj)

No more than the rest of us wretched souls, brother!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:34 PM (16bOT)

31 Ugh.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 09, 2015 11:35 PM (T1005)

32 25 "They will sue. Apparently Lawfare is there thing."


Don't touch. Just tell them to FO.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2

If you touch them, kill them. It's cheaper in the long run

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:35 PM (ixHW6)

33 27: Fog and rain. At least they put me in first class tomorrow. I should be in Vegas now though.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:35 PM (ucDmr)

34 Screw Snape.

He was dead to me when he tried to kill all the Aborigines.

Posted by: RustyG at April 09, 2015 11:35 PM (34Xjk)

35 8 I posted this already in the previous thread (the not ONT ONT) but I'll bring it up again. Church goers in the DC Metro (VA-MD-DC)area need to be careful this Sunday. I got a email from mine warning that a Mob of SJW Cultists will be protesting some Church's in the area, mine included. So if they are at yours, don't react to them, at all. They will sue. Apparently Lawfare is there thing. The email didn't say who it was but my guess its the LGBT fascists. In a way its a pretty good indication if your church is doing the right thing by who is protesting against you.
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 09, 2015 11:31 PM (klBak)

******

Use the thing I do when people are pricks on the road. Flip them off, but use your pinky.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 09, 2015 11:24 PM (9QUPT)

Also from the last thread.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 09, 2015 11:35 PM (ilEsF)

36 That's a very good Venn diagram.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:36 PM (Wo9OY)

37 #ThingsBetterThanTheIranDeal

#GrilledCheeseSammich

#Gingivitis

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:36 PM (KCxzN)

38 "If you touch them, kill them. It's cheaper in the long run"


Stole my mind thoughts. I ain't sayin', just sayin'.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:36 PM (uKyga)

39 Why complain about the tardiness?,this is one full stuffed ONT. We are not worthy Maet

Oh btw happy "Friday" night to you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:36 PM (ixHW6)

40 Happy fun ball? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 09, 2015 11:37 PM (Gosad)

41 WHOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! FLAMES ARE GOING BACK TO PLAY FOR THE CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!L

Posted by: Weirddave at April 09, 2015 11:37 PM (EPaen)

42 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586185194891304960

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586185913362972672

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586186302942531584

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586186888756776962

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586187223785177088

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586243140497072128

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586243510216568833

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586243854531198977

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/586244368648040448

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2015 11:38 PM (GrXXa)

43 33 27: Fog and rain. At least they put me in first class tomorrow. I should be in Vegas now though.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015

Bon voyage mutha fucka.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:38 PM (ixHW6)

44 43: Thanks man. Hope you don't have to shovel. That would be a fucking insult.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:39 PM (ucDmr)

45 Woooooooo Flames secure filler spot

Posted by: MN Wild

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:39 PM (ixHW6)

46 Royale with Cheese

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:40 PM (MQEz6)

47 >>>Notice: Do not taunt or annoy happy-fun ball. Do not taunt or annoy host. Do not complain about ONT topics or ONT tardiness. Do not violate the Hidden Law. Do not speak of rhubarb. Do not use the ONT white zone except for loading and unloading. Boasts of physical endowments MUST be backed by photographic evidence. Also you are all now on double secret probation.


This is the best part of the ONT. Except for how late it was. And the lack of rhubarb. And that happy fun ball is a bitch.

Happy Friday Eve morons.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 09, 2015 11:40 PM (e+1S5)

48 Chavez, who told you that Appleton had an airport? They were pulling your leg.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at April 09, 2015 11:40 PM (KG0mU)

49 Chavez, you insurance? MH will make a mess of things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:40 PM (uKyga)

50 Hockey should be finished by the time spring rolls around...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM (Wo9OY)

51 The guys don't get f'n pink shirts.

Posted by: Paul Anka at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM (Dwehj)

52 The problem with college is it is no longer needed.

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM (MQEz6)

53 "got"

Shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM (uKyga)

54 50 Hockey should be finished by the time spring rolls around...
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM

Believe me it's not spring here or in Canada. Bless your heart you little tar heel

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:42 PM (ixHW6)

55 First time trying to make cheddar cheese in the crockpot. Seems to have worked okay. No way I'm going to age it 6 months though. If I'm lucky I'll manage to wait a week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 09, 2015 11:42 PM (GDulk)

56 Royale with Cheese

I'll take two.

I can upload my coordinates to your drone upon your signal

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:42 PM (KCxzN)

57 #ThingsBetterThanTheIranDeal

#10. Ass-rape
#9. 50 Lashes
#8. Bobcat Goldthwaite
#7. Donkey Cum
#6. Flu
#5. Spinal Injuries
#4. San Francisco
#3. Bernie Sanders
#2. 1,000 Paper Cuts

...and the Number One thing that is better than the Iran Deal...

-SMOD!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:43 PM (16bOT)

58 But, I'm already drinking and pissy, so.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I'm playing catch up with potato vodka and cranberry juice. I'm into fruit and vegetables.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at April 09, 2015 11:43 PM (dt+4+)

59 48: They have a few Piper Cubs flyin outta there. Not today though.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:43 PM (ucDmr)

60 Vent Diagram & Chavez study up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:44 PM (ixHW6)

61 The guys don't get f'n pink shirts.
Posted by: Paul Anka at April 09, 2015 11:41 PM (Dwehj)

******

It is "Salmon", Damnit!

Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 09, 2015 11:44 PM (ilEsF)

62 My contribution to the #ThingsBetterThanTheIranDeal hashtag:

"Rolling Stone's integrity in journalism."

Posted by: Thrawn at April 09, 2015 11:44 PM (TUDy+)

63 So, the Pirates start the season 0-3 and the Penguins are playing there way out of the NHL Playoffs.

On the other had, The Masters is on this weekend!! Its my favorite golf major. August National looks like a painting its so beautiful.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 09, 2015 11:44 PM (klBak)

64 Ecuador's President tweets "Heil Hitler"

https://twitter.com/MashiRafael/status/586175688752902144

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat). at April 09, 2015 11:44 PM (0Ew3K)

65 Wow! No wonder the ONT is a little bit... nonpunctual? Will be back after reading a while longer.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (WNkHZ)

66 Where's Joe?

Posted by: Paul Anka at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (KCxzN)

67 >>>I'm playing catch up with potato vodka and cranberry juice. I'm into fruit and vegetables.

Chopin? It is good. Spendy, but worth it. And vodka cran is awesome.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (e+1S5)

68 "Make more per hour than you do all day". Remind you of anybody?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (W5DcG)

69 Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:43 PM (16bOT)

Applause whistles

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (ixHW6)

70 Hey everybody. Job news...

Well, I think somebody actually wants to hire me this time. I think yesterday I mentioned that my first job wanted me to go to a nearby employment agency for testing and registration.

Anyway, because I had my second interview, I couldn't make it to the agency yesterday, but planned to go today. Well, this morning at about 9, my interviewer actually *called* to make sure I went to the agency. I phoned her back and told her I was going that morning, which she seemed to like to hear.

So I filed out the online application, called, and they said it would take over two hours for their office to get my online application, which IMHO makes *no sense whatsoever.* But they said if I came in that afternoon, they should have my info. So I made an appointment for 1:30pm. (This call to the agency was at about 10:15am.)

I go there, have lunch at Taco Bell (darn it but the Chipotle Chixstar is good), made certain I didn't spill anything on my shirt, and finally walked in the place at 1:25. Keep in mind, I'm desperate enough for a job that this place, and the actual site where the job is, are about 30 miles away from me.

So what happens? Their entire registration system is down, and they said I should come back Monday. They couldn't have called me of course, I had to *actually drive there* for them to tell me this.

So I called the lady who interviewed me, because she seemed like she wanted to make a decision on this data entry job, and told her that I couldn't get a follow-up interview on Monday because of the computer glitches.

So at about 5pm, I got a voicemail. The lady called the agency and spoke to the manager, and now she wants me to call the agency *again* tomorrow morning and get the registration and testing hammered out and done.

Okay, fine. At least she seems to want to hire me. Kinda frustrating to have to make *three* sorta long trips to get considered, though. Will definitely call the agency before leaving, to make sure they're ready for me.

In the meantime, I sent out about four or five more applications, *and* heard from a *big* healthcare company about an interview next week. *That* job pays better and, even though downtown, would probably be a shorter commute. So who knows what will happen, but at least I'm still getting leads.

And that was the day that was...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:46 PM (elbY7)

71 "I'm playing catch up with potato vodka and cranberry juice. I'm into fruit and vegetables."



I was watching a show on the RM mountain wolf the other day.


Opinion?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 09, 2015 11:46 PM (uKyga)

72 Golf? Nixon plays golf.

Posted by: Lacey Underalls at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KCxzN)

73
68 "Make more per hour than you do all day". Remind you of anybody?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (W5DcG

Yeah his Mom is breast feeding him above

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (ixHW6)

74 "first job" = first job I interviewed for yesterday, which is a data entry job. Lower paying than I would like, but full time *and* they said I could come in as late as 10am, which would help me with adjusting to a full-time work sched (wouldn't have to get on the freeway probably most mornings 'til 9).

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (elbY7)

75 Ecuador's President tweets "Heil Hitler"

https://twitter.com/MashiRafael/status/586175688752902144
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat)

His message might have gotten a little muddled. I don't know what the transcript says, but what he intended to say was that he supports the Palestinians quest for a 2 state solution.

Posted by: Maria Jarf, Ecuadorian Spokestool at April 09, 2015 11:48 PM (GuwT9)

76 That's my fart down at four corners. Had burritos the night before down in AZ, stopped to pay tribute to the Navajo et al at the monument, and, blooie.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 09, 2015 11:48 PM (U6f54)

77 "Applause whistles"
-Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:45 PM (ixHW6)

*Paul Schaeffer plays "Imagine Dragons"*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:48 PM (16bOT)

78 A bittersweet day. On this date in 1865 Robert E. Lee surrendered his army to Grant.
-----------

Then there is nothing left for me but to go to and see General Grant, and I should rather die a thousand deaths. - General Robert E. Lee (1807-1870) (After learning he had no alternative but to surrender his army at Appomattox on 9 April 1865)

------------------------------------------------
Whatever General Lee's feelings were I do not know. As he was a man of much dignity, with an impassable face, it was impossible to say whether he felt inwardly glad that the end had finally come, or felt sad over the result and was too manly to show it. - General Ulysses S. Grant (1822-1885) (Personal Memoirs, 1885)

--------------------

The Band, 'The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down'
http://tinyurl.com/mhuu9ak

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 09, 2015 11:48 PM (F2IAQ)

79
Have I ever told you about my relatives heroism at the Battle of Wounded Knee?

Posted by: Elizabeth "Two Dogs Fucking" Warren at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (P330y)

80 70: Damn Steve, I think I would join the free shit army fuck that job shit.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (ucDmr)

81 "Believe me it's not spring here or in Canada. Bless your heart you little tar heel

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian"

They use a different calender up there than we do down here?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (Wo9OY)

82 Methane is a greenhouse gas.

*poop*

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (MQEz6)

83 Hidden Law?

I'm an expert on Hidden!

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (UFjs0)

84 Steve way to go Bud. Fingers crossed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:49 PM (ixHW6)

85 You guys may recall an "Aliens" review up on the sidebar a week or some ago? That was made by a guy on YouTube (and Twitter) whose screen-name is "Sargon of Akkad".

He's an admitted liberal, but he's definitely not a Marxist and he *hates* SJWs. Plus his accent is pretty nice. If you're into YT commentaries, I'd definitely recommend him.

Given some of the nonsense I've been hearing about where I work and the lib idiocy I've seen on my FB timeline lately, I wish I could exclaim these words like Sargon did: "Fuck them, fuck you, and fuck off!".

Posted by: Thrawn at April 09, 2015 11:50 PM (TUDy+)

86 "82 Methane is a greenhouse gas.

*poop*"

Likewise with 3-methyl indole!

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:50 PM (UFjs0)

87 Great ONT Maet. All of your ONT's are. Thank you.

Posted by: fly gal at April 09, 2015 11:50 PM (sKq6w)

88 Chavez, it's tempting. I am definitely of the belief that if you want people to actually *work,* society should make it far easier to get a job than to go on the dole.

And MH, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:51 PM (elbY7)

89 >>>Hey everybody. Job news...

Great news, buddy. Rooting for you.

Well, by rooting for you, I really mean drinking a vodka club and watching BBT.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 09, 2015 11:51 PM (e+1S5)

90 Opinion on wolves:
Shoot 'em.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at April 09, 2015 11:51 PM (O1R1o)

91 Well, great. I already used all my alloted comments on the thread below. Now I have nothing to talk about.

I should fit in nicely.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Native Kentuckian at April 09, 2015 11:51 PM (rJUlF)

92
86 "82 Methane is a greenhouse gas.

*poop*"

Likewise with 3-methyl indole!
Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:50 PM (UFjs0)

Heterocycle is a trigger word.

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:52 PM (MQEz6)

93 "Well, great. I already used all my alloted comments on the thread below. Now I have nothing to talk about.



I should fit in nicely.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread"

Pull up a chair while we all sit around and contemplate the future.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:52 PM (Wo9OY)

94 DC, still sounds good. Thanks. ;-)

I'm rooting myself by enjoying a nice Hostess apple pie. Dang but the 'new' Hostess actually improved these things a lot IMHO. They went from trash to treasure.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:52 PM (elbY7)

95 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (elbY7)

*****
May I inquire as to your age, Steve?

Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 09, 2015 11:52 PM (ilEsF)

96 "Other-kin" explained...

http://linkis.com/www.youtube.com/gomye

Posted by: The Same-kin Hat at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (0Ew3K)

97 "92
86 "82 Methane is a greenhouse gas.

*poop*"

Likewise with 3-methyl indole!
Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:50 PM (UFjs0)

Heterocycle is a trigger word."

"Pull my finger" is a trigger phrase in my neck of the woods!

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (UFjs0)

98 good stuff, Hammer

just as long as we don't have to re-litigate The War of Northern Aggression

again

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (KCxzN)

99 Barry, wow! Congrats on getting hitched. Thanks for finally coming out of that closet. ;-)

I'm 48. I admit, not a great age to be looking for work.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (elbY7)

100 "...they get caught up in the sort of ideological St. Vitas' Dance.."
-----------------

I say...., this Goldberg chap has a way with words.

Posted by: Bertie Wooster at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (F2IAQ)

101 Hey. Ace gets a mention in the new Day by Day comic! http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (Wo9OY)

102 I still think the best "news" item of the day was Salon's article about Jesus going to hell.

It's rare that their cocksure ignorance is on such full display without any of the SJW cover to...cover them.

Posted by: Lauren at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM (MYCIw)

103
98 good stuff, Hammer

just as long as we don't have to re-litigate The War of Northern Aggression

again
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:53 PM (KCxzN)

Can't we just blame France and move on.

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM (MQEz6)

104
I've been working especially hard since I stopped doing you know what. I am just a little short, so if you wish to see me just this one time, call me at 1-800-HOT-BODS and ask for Ashley. On special boyfriend, only $1500/session.

Posted by: Ashley Dupre (#9's Main Squeeze) at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM (P330y)

105 just as long as we don't have to re-litigate The War of Northern Aggression

again
Posted by: Alton
-----------------

Nope. Just making the observation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM (F2IAQ)

106 "This one's for you, wherever you are..."
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM (elbY7)

107 ..."And that was the day that was..."
-Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:46 PM (elbY7)

Humility, patience, pardon and faith.

Might you receive joy, as those who wish to be productive often enjoy.

What a story from the last time to this evening.

-I'll pray for you and yours.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:55 PM (16bOT)

108 Starting to notice how much Megyn Kelly sucks.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2015 11:55 PM (ZPrif)

109 Cold Beer, thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:55 PM (elbY7)

110 Can't we just blame France and move on.

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:54 PM


Sold!

Next?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:55 PM (KCxzN)

111 Well, it's time to make some tree knocks near Bobo and to wolf-whistle at Rene. You all behave yourselves!

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (UFjs0)

112
108 Starting to notice how much Megyn Kelly sucks.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2015 11:55 PM (ZPrif)

Too good to be true.

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (MQEz6)

113

And the sign said, "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said, "You look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do"
So I took off my hat, I said, "Imagine that, huh, me workin' for you"
Whoa, oh, oh

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (rwI+c)

114 Just got mentioned on Twitchy:

http://bit.ly/1JuAt7r

Posted by: The Twitter Hat at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (0Ew3K)

115 Happy fun ball is less interesting than a documentary on the history of rhubarb.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (zt+N6)

116 They use a different calender up there than we do down here?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 09, 2015 11:49 P

The calendar and mother fucking nature are not on speaking terms at the moment. 2-4" of white stuff forecasted. About 1" down now

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (ixHW6)

117 I am, shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, to find gambling in this establishment out that Barry Manilow is gay.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, not fooling anybody at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (rJUlF)

118 >>>Great ONT Maet. All of your ONT's are. Thank you.

That right there is some quality ass-kissing. Maybe we won't be punished with an all Yoko and rhubarb ONT after all.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 09, 2015 11:56 PM (e+1S5)

119 99: Steve, there is no age good looking for work. I remember when it was easier to find a job than to get laid. now, it's the opposite.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:57 PM (ucDmr)

120

And the sign said, Anybody caught trespassin' would be shot on sight
So, I jumped on the fence and-a yelled at the house
"Hey, what gives you the right?
To put up a fence to keep me out or to keep mother nature in
If God was here, He'd tell you to your face, man, you're some kinda sinner"

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 09, 2015 11:57 PM (rwI+c)

121 116: Fuck that white shit.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (ucDmr)

122 #ThingsBetterThanTheIranDeal

Rhubarb.

Having an elongated glans and a white scrotum.

Having a Ready For Hillary '16 sticker on my wood chipper.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (EwcYx)

123 Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 09, 2015 11:57 PM (rwI+c)

So...yeah....

Posted by: eman at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (MQEz6)

124

Now, hey you, Mister, can't you read?
You've got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat
You can't even watch, no you can't eat
You ain't supposed to be here
The sign said, You got to have a membership card to get inside, ugh

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (rwI+c)

125 And the sign said, you have to have a membership card to get inside...UHNNN!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (rJUlF)

126 ...how much Megyn Kelly sucks...

Do you realize what those words, in that order, mean?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (KCxzN)

127 No they are not expanding money to the elderly in the current generation. What they are doing is planning to give SSDI to illegals and even Puerto Ricans who can not speak English.


The elderly are not the people that are bankrupting the system. In fact, after two massive SS tax increase which the people entering retirement have paid to get them past the baby boom bubble, the system has been steadily robbed for other projects and the SSDI fraud.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (wlDny)

128

And the sign said, "Everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray"
But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all
I didn't have a penny to pay
So, I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign
I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me, I'm alive and doin' fine, woo

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Sign
Sign, sign

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (rwI+c)

129 "Well, great. I already used all my alloted comments on the thread below. Now I have nothing to talk about.
I should fit in nicely.
"
-Posted by: Captain Whitebread

I've never had anything intellectual to say. I just ride some nerd's pipe and hope it turns out for the best.

Yup. Phrasing.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (16bOT)

130 78 A bittersweet day. On this date in 1865 Robert E. Lee surrendered his army to Grant.
-----------

Then there is nothing left for me but to go to and see General Grant, and I should rather die a thousand deaths. - General Robert E. Lee (1807-1870) (After learning he had no alternative but to surrender his army at Appomattox on 9 April 1865)

------------------------------------------------
Whatever General Lee's feelings were I do not know. As he was a man of much dignity, with an impassable face, it was impossible to say whether he felt inwardly glad that the end had finally come, or felt sad over the result and was too manly to show it. - General Ulysses S. Grant (1822-1885) (Personal Memoirs, 1885)

--------------------

The Band, 'The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down'
http://tinyurl.com/mhuu9ak
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 09, 2015 11:48 PM (F2IAQ)


Appomattox is part of the Roanoke-Lynchburg tv market, so all of the local newscasts this week have been at Appomattox, and featuring Civil War stories from Appomattox.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (+Fae7)

131 Maet has been rolling, lately.

I'd violate the Hidden Rule if I could only find it.

Posted by: Garrett at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (9WSHE)

132 So I tucked my hair up under my hat.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (ucDmr)

133 Nope. Just making the observation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 09

Yeah, a certain president could learn something from Lee & grant. Oh never mind he is just too good for all. And we have let him down

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (ixHW6)

134 Who is the gaucho, amigo?
Why is he standing in your spangled leather poncho
with the studs that match your eyes?
Bodacious cowboys
such as your friend
will never be welcome here
high in the Custerdome

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (elbY7)

135 "Methane hot spot in 4 corners area."

I think I hear the price of hamburger going up again.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (WNkHZ)

136 Yup. Phrasing.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 09, 2015 11:59 PM (16bOT)

Wait, wait...are we still doing that?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (rJUlF)

137 That Snape thing made me cry

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (zOTsN)

138 21.5 months to go.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (MQEz6)

139 Slap! How you doin?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:01 AM (ucDmr)

140 "Bodacious Cowboys" would be a great band name btw.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:01 AM (elbY7)

141 21.5 months to go.

My soul is not going to make it intact.

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 10, 2015 12:01 AM (rwI+c)

142 Shedding confused Sock.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:01 AM (ilEsF)

143 Damn-Good, Hugo! ...Damn-Good!

How's things in your corner of the world?

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (16bOT)

144 125 And the sign said, you have to have a membership card to get inside...UHNNN!
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (rJUlF)

I like the Bob & Tom bit where they play that song and someone ends up shooting at the guy singing. Cracks me up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (ixHW6)

145 126 ...how much Megyn Kelly sucks...

Do you realize what those words, in that order, mean?
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (KCxzN)


I guess phrasing is no longer a thing.

Posted by: Sterling Archer at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (+Fae7)

146 Posted by: Lacey Underalls at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KCxzN)

I haven't seen that nic in quite a while.

*waves*

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (EwcYx)

147 "Wait, wait...are we still doing that?"
-Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 10, 2015 12:00 AM (rJUlF)

I don't know. I've never been a "trendsetter".

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:03 AM (16bOT)

148 I guess phrasing is no longer a thing.
Posted by: Sterling Archer at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (+Fae7)

#slowclap

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 10, 2015 12:03 AM (rJUlF)

149 143: Very good my friend. Thanks

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:03 AM (ucDmr)

150 Steve - Hang tough. The data you enter might be mine.

It all sounds positive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:03 AM (F2IAQ)

151 GnuBreed, haven't seen it in a while either. Welcome back Lacey. :-)

(Remember those Underalls commercials? Oh boy...)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:04 AM (elbY7)

152 From qdpsteve to NSAsteve

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:04 AM (ixHW6)

153 Mike, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:04 AM (elbY7)

154 Apropos of nothing, Remington is giving a $75 rebate on 1911R1's purchased before May 31st. Considering that CDNN is selling the base model for $544.88, that's only $469.88 for a factory new 1911.


Just noting, I am. Just noting.

Posted by: toby928(C) whom we shall call 'Toby' for purposes of publication at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (rwI+c)

155 Leaving our citizens to fend fo0r themselves in Yemen is an outrageous outrage WTF!!!! These ghetto motherfuckers in this administration are running the country like an inner city

Posted by: Conductor Crazy Train at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (XYKz+)

156 Madonna on the Tonight Show with grills on her teeth and torn fishnets on her legs, a satin bomber jacket with dollar signs bedazzled on it, and a weave on her head


She looks like a broke ass old hooker

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (zOTsN)

157 144: That is fuckin great. My favorite on Bob&Tom are the Russian Roulette championships.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (ucDmr)

158 MH, LOL.

Maybe I can arrange to "lose" the Horde's backup disks...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (elbY7)

159
146 Posted by: Lacey Underalls at April 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KCxzN) I haven't seen that nic in quite a while.*waves*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM (EwcYx


Not the 'ette laceyunderalls.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (zt+N6)

160 (at the NSA I mean)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:06 AM (elbY7)

161 LaceyUnderalls. Here!?

Still. i'm not putting on pants.

Posted by: Garrett at April 10, 2015 12:06 AM (9WSHE)

162 156: She is a broke ass old hooker. Who would fuck that?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:06 AM (ucDmr)

163 "And the sign said, "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"

Ha. Speaking of that, our new lawn guy looks like Josh Hamilton with a long dread locked ponytail.

I was suspicious, but he actually seems to be one of the better lawn guys we've hired so we shall see. It did feel a bit like seeing the future Josh after the Angles have kicked him to the curb though.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:07 AM (MYCIw)

164 "GOLDBERG: And they had days of meetings and panic about that, and they wanted to see if accused racist children would float in the horse trough or not! It was just like a total witch trial mentality and this is going on campuses."
------------------

Happened at Warren Wilson also.

And The Dook Nooser has been dismissed from school, but they won't tell anyone about him/her.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (F2IAQ)

165 Megyn Kelley is a methodical "friendly". She coaxed you into her little corner of the World.

...and you never realize you've been cornered until it is too late.

She's AtC personified. She's a flesh-and-blood Venus Fly-Trap. She's wickedly appealing.

She's the live version of the animated windowsill apple pie.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (16bOT)

166 158 MH, LOL.

Maybe I can arrange to "lose" the Horde's backup disks...
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:05

Just let me know when they are on their way. A real misanthropic greeting I will prepare

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (ixHW6)

167 since when is she broke

Posted by: OTB at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (ShdUd)

168 162 156: She is a broke ass old hooker. Who would fuck that?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:06 AM (ucDmr)


Alex Rodriguez.

Posted by: Garrett at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (9WSHE)

169 She looks like a broke ass old hooker
Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:05 AM (zOTsN)

*******
For the last ten years, at least. Even Bill Maher compared her emaciated arms to Clint Eastwood 's dick. She is about 20 years beyond her sell by date.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (ilEsF)

170 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2015 11:46 PM (elbY7)



Steve, what is your line of work?

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:08 AM (nL0sw)

171 I haven't seen that nic in quite a while.

*waves*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:02 AM


Apologies. I forgot the Prime Directive.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 10, 2015 12:09 AM (KCxzN)

172 Took a bit of an unexpected tumble today. I think my ankle is swollen.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 12:09 AM (T1005)

173 I like the anecdote about Grant wearing his worst uniform available, wih tatters and dirt, to the surrender while Lee was (as always) in his finest.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:09 AM (WNkHZ)

174 163 "And the sign said, "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"

Ha. Speaking of that, our new lawn guy looks like Josh Hamilton with a long dread locked ponytail.
------
Gringo lawn boy? How quaint

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:09 AM (ixHW6)

175 She looks like a broke ass old hooker
Posted by: Thunder
------------------------------

She's been disoriented ever since that fall...
Well..., okay, ever since Lady Gaga began gaining audience.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:10 AM (F2IAQ)

176 "Gringo lawn boy? How quaint"

Ok, I'm just going to admit it. He's the first white lawn guy we've had...ever.

I'm not sure if that makes me a racist or a non discriminatory employer.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)

177 She is wearing the grills to cover her old ass teeth

Fingerless fishnet gloves to cover her old ass hands

Satin bedazzled Bomber jacket to cover her old ass arms

And yet she still has her old ass hanging out

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (zOTsN)

178 I like the anecdote about Grant wearing his worst uniform available, wih tatters and dirt, to the surrender while Lee was (as always) in his finest.
Posted by: berger
----------------------------

Class will tell.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (F2IAQ)

179 cthulhu...... wait. Tentacles have ankles?

Whodathunkit?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


(p.s. hope yer ok. seriously)

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:12 AM (RzZOc)

180 Took a bit of an unexpected tumble today. I think my ankle is swollen.
Posted by: cthulhu
---------------------------

As long as you don't start wearing fishnet hose, everything is going to be okay.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:13 AM (F2IAQ)

181 Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (zOTsN)

Almost felt bad for missing it. But I have youMorons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:13 AM (ixHW6)

182 I'm not sure if that makes me a racist or a non discriminatory employer.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)

*****

In this freaking climate, door #1 is the only option available.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:13 AM (9QUPT)

183 Her hair has got to be white now, she has brown roots dyed in first, then blond strands, then attaches a blond weave

She is a horror

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:13 AM (zOTsN)

184 Snape is my fave character.

Posted by: Trent Reznor at April 10, 2015 12:14 AM (XrHO0)

185 "Took a bit of an unexpected tumble today. I think my ankle is swollen."
-Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 12:09 AM (T1005)

#1. Compare it with pictures of uninjured ankles.
#2. "I'll Tumble 4 Ya" was a Top 40 hit in 198x
#3. "Swollen" can mean many things, inclu&!@%.......

alt.dot/frame%$*: value=Xpost18543

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:14 AM (16bOT)

186 Country Singer, that's another issue. :-)

I do typing, transcription, and admin/clerical support. I also know Microsoft Office backwards and forwards. BUT... in today's market, that stuff seems to be a dime a dozen, or has been becoming that for years. And let's be honest: in 20 years typing will be gone, mostly replace by voice commands.

I have given some serious thought to going to Paralegal school (don't worry Horde, I have *no* plans to go whole hog and become an attorney). I also like the idea of learning more about computer repair, becoming a realtor, running an online radio station... and oh yeah, becoming a pro screenwriter.

Dreams, dreams, dreams. Hope to move on something soon though. I *did* complete my very first script a few months ago though. It's a piece of crap, but... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:14 AM (elbY7)

187 Madonna has an ugly ass soul. It shows too. What a dreg of humanity. No talent slut. She has a lot of work to do to make hooker status.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:14 AM (ucDmr)

188 >> Apologies. I forgot the Prime Directive.

The Barrel awaits.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:15 AM (EwcYx)

189 She joked about asking her teen son if she had any friends he could hook her up with

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:15 AM (zOTsN)

190 Oh the stories I could tell...

Posted by: Madonna's crusty loofah at April 10, 2015 12:15 AM (NeFrd)

191 Ok, I'm just going to admit it. He's the first white lawn guy we've had...ever.

I'm not sure if that makes me a racist or a non discriminatory employer.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)

Makes you good people who don't care about race. I suspect it's getting a little hard on the mobility

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:16 AM (ixHW6)

192 OK, peeps, I gotta do the "Responsible Adult" dance in less than eight hours...

I gotta geaux

We'll have words tomorrow night, I'm sure

g'night, Andrew

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 10, 2015 12:16 AM (KCxzN)

193 I also do data entry, desktop publishing, and...
video production. Which is part of what the movie I've told you all about is for: among other things, to show my skills. And hopefully get some attention from people who might actually consider me for some work.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:16 AM (elbY7)

194 Nite Alton.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:17 AM (ucDmr)

195 >>>So I tucked my hair up under my hat.

Way late, but...

I told the bartender that I had a flat
And would he be kind enough to give me change for a one

Posted by: DC in River City at April 10, 2015 12:17 AM (e+1S5)

196 "Ok, I'm just going to admit it. He's the first white lawn guy we've had...ever.
I'm not sure if that makes me a racist or a non discriminatory employer.
"
-Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)

Que?

Posted by: Manuel Labor (T) at April 10, 2015 12:17 AM (16bOT)

197 Later, Alton.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:18 AM (16bOT)

198 Madonna is 56.

Christie Brinkley is 61.

Madonna needs to call her for some advice.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:18 AM (MYCIw)

199 >>>>Dreams, dreams, dreams. Hope to move on something soon though. I *did* complete my very first script a few months ago though. It's a piece of crap, but... ;-)

Crap? It should fit right in Steve. I'm 55 and I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:18 AM (ixHW6)

200 MH, same here.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:19 AM (elbY7)

201 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:14 AM (elbY7)


Gotcha, I was thinking you were an IT guy, and there's always jobs for that down here where I am. Hope one of the potential jobs works out for you.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:19 AM (nL0sw)

202 Country Singer, thanks. Have also considered getting an official IT education.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (elbY7)

203 Madonna needs to call her for some advice.
Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:18 AM (MYCIw)

****

*Golf Clap*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (9QUPT)

204 In this freaking climate, door #1 is the only option available.

The lady or the tiger.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (W5DcG)

205 Grant was a junior officer under Lee in the Mexican war. He had to deliver a message to Lee, and Lee roundly berated him for his appearance though he had come straight fom the battlefield. Apparently, Grant never forgot.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (WNkHZ)

206 Ok, I'm just going to admit it. He's the first white lawn guy we've had...ever.


****


Is he from lawn guy land?



(wait for it...)

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (NeFrd)

207 He said, "You look like a fine, upstanding young man; I think you do."

So I took off my hat and said, "Imagine that!

*heh*

I'm a Communist sympathizer who believes in the destruction of your business from the inside-out.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:21 AM (16bOT)

208 I'm 60. I wouldn't fuck Madonna with David Letterman's dick. You couldn't open that clam with a turbocharged weedeater.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:21 AM (ucDmr)

209 You guys are all too old for her. She only dates guys in their 20s. Ugh

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (zOTsN)

210 Freaking outstanding ONT, Maet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (F2IAQ)

211 I'm a Communist sympathizer who believes in the destruction of your business from the inside-out.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April

Then change your NIC to Cock Suckin Obama

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (ixHW6)

212 "Is he from lawn guy land?
(wait for it...)
"
-Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at April 10, 2015 12:20 AM (NeFrd)

Sloppy-Mow, Slop-Sloppy-Mow.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (16bOT)

213
172 cthulhu

Took a bit of an unexpected tumble today. I think my ankle is swollen.


On the positive side, you can now accessorize with a cane. Might I recommend the "Bubba Stik"?

http://www.bubbastik.com/

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (FlRtG)

214 with a turbocharged weedeater.
Posted by: Chavez
--------------

Wait...., there are *turbocharged* weedeaters?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:23 AM (F2IAQ)

215 Madonna is good for Irish tourism. She makes your dick go to Dublin.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:24 AM (ucDmr)

216 "Then change your NIC to Cock Suckin Obama"
-Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 12:22 AM (ixHW6)

Was that the game? ...because I hate to admit it, but I'm a little soused.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:24 AM (16bOT)

217 Muldoon.

One day, your namesake is going to read one of yours so very groanable, and rise from his grave just to put you into Hell's own Headlock.

In other words, I honor and envy your speed, wit and punditude.

Even though that last one curdled my freshly opened Irish Peat Whisky. Stuff ain't cheap, yaknow.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:24 AM (RzZOc)

218 Steve, I'm checking with one the big companies here in town, and they have a "Market Administrative Specialist" opening in Texas (Bedford, wherever that is).

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (nL0sw)

219 208 >> I wouldn't fuck Madonna with David Letterman's dick.

To be fair, Letterman's dick probably has a shirt that says 'Been There, Done That'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (EwcYx)

220 Wait...., there are *turbocharged* weedeaters?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:23 AM (F2IAQ)

***

Oh, Hells yeah!

Posted by: Tim Allen at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (hohwc)

221 Every Lawn Boy I've ever seen was green.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (W5DcG)

222 Bedford's in the DFW area.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (MYCIw)

223 178: He was kind of busy destroying Lee's army and putting the final nail in Slavery hence a dusty uniform.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (klBak)

224
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

***


From you I'll take that as a compliment. Next round's on me!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at April 10, 2015 12:26 AM (NeFrd)

225 Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:24 AM (RzZOc)

He is a risible goofball. I've hand-crafted artisan comedy from clouds and holes.

He simply uses one finger and pokes the stupidest of funny!

It is like "The Simpsons" didn't care and I still laugh.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:27 AM (16bOT)

226 198: Life choices can be a harsh mistress. Christy made better ones I'm guessing.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:27 AM (klBak)

227 The Civil War wasn't about slavery. The bastard people of Europe worked cheaper than slaves.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:29 AM (hr4aJ)

228 Country Singer, will see if I can find that.

I admit I'm tempted to respond to a few jobs in Blythe. I have relatives in Parker, AZ, that I think I *might* be able to work something out with.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:29 AM (elbY7)

229 Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. One of the best. Made sure his men treated the surrendering Lee and party with respect and honor.

What a contrast to President I Won.

Posted by: Gem at April 10, 2015 12:29 AM (c+gwp)

230 219: That poor dick. Life decisions will cost you.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:29 AM (ucDmr)

231 "To be fair, Letterman's dick probably has a shirt that says 'Been There, Done That Powerless interns and writers that I can fire'."
-Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2015 12:25 AM (EwcYx)

*cleans hands*

...all done

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:30 AM (16bOT)

232 Steve, the position is with Aflac, so you should be able to find it on their site.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:30 AM (nL0sw)

233 Madonna and Hillary are aging into the same tired, worn out, leathery bitter old skank.

They're just arriving there from different directions.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:31 AM (RzZOc)

234 You have an Empire run by foreign banking cartels if they can keep it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:31 AM (hr4aJ)

235 227: The Civil War had many reasons for it. Dismissing slavery is silly.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:32 AM (klBak)

236 I read somewhere that Madonna had something like 13 abortions.

That'll do a number on your soul.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:32 AM (MYCIw)

237 179
cthulhu...... wait. Tentacles have ankles?



Whodathunkit?







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX





(p.s. hope yer ok. seriously)

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:12 AM (RzZOc)


Just grumpy.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 12:32 AM (T1005)

238 233: Jim , that's so fuckin true. They both need to be put on the shitpile of history. never to be brought up again. Ever.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:33 AM (ucDmr)

239 The most quotable Civil War general? William "Tecumsah" Sherman!! He was prescient and funny.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:33 AM (klBak)

240 235 227: The Civil War had many reasons for it. Dismissing slavery is silly.
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:32 AM (klBak)

******

Ruh Roh. Danger! Danger!

Posted by: Tim Allen at April 10, 2015 12:34 AM (hohwc)

241 Lauren. Madonna's soul was the first abortion. Next question?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:34 AM (RzZOc)

242 The Civil War wasn't about slavery. The bastard people of Europe worked cheaper than slaves.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:29 AM (hr4aJ)


Pffft!

Posted by: Arab Slavers who know better... at April 10, 2015 12:34 AM (0Ew3K)

243 "You have an Empire run by foreign banking cartels if they can keep it."
-Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:31 AM (hr4aJ)

Democracy! Unleash the mobs dressed in masks and spill the fire from my un-patented stoves!

Posted by: Zombie Ben Franklin (T) at April 10, 2015 12:34 AM (16bOT)

244 Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:31 AM (RzZOc)

Madonna has been washed up for at least two decades now.

One of the most un-sexist Skinemax movies I've ever had the misfortune of seeing is "Body of Evidence", a Basic Instinct rip-off that also featured Willem Dafoe.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 10, 2015 12:35 AM (TUDy+)

245 Aflac's a good company.

I remember years ago, at a law firm I worked at, they offered us Aflac. Us employees were skeptical. Then they mentioned they had a policy that if you sign up, and just get a routine physical within six months, they'd send you a check for 50 bucks.

Most everybody signed up. Wonder if they still have that promotion.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:36 AM (elbY7)

246 ..."Most everybody signed up. Wonder if they still have that promotion."
-Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:36 AM (elbY7)

We did that, too!

Posted by: Alcoa (T) at April 10, 2015 12:37 AM (16bOT)

247 "Body of Evidence" should have been enough to put the both of those away for twenty years to life.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:37 AM (RzZOc)

248 Chris Elliot is looking good. Ho Li Fook.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:37 AM (ucDmr)

249 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 12:38 AM (UVfht)

250 235 You are a total fucking moron. Keep preaching the Junior High version. You have an extra chromosome and have to wear a leash and a helmet? You racists always use others to do the heavy lifting.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:38 AM (hr4aJ)

251 I remember years ago, at a law firm I worked at, they offered us Aflac. Us employees were skeptical. Then they mentioned they had a policy that if you sign up, and just get a routine physical within six months, they'd send you a check for 50 bucks.

And a duck dinner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:39 AM (W5DcG)

252 Bertram: yep.

Hosted by Gilbert Gottfried.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:39 AM (elbY7)

253 *backs away slowly*

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 12:39 AM (MYCIw)

254 Incontheeeeviable!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:40 AM (16bOT)

255 "most quotable Civil War general? William "Tecumsah" Sherman!!
He was prescient and funny."

Uncle Billy.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:40 AM (WNkHZ)

256 Madonna is a giant '80's cell phone.

Hold it up and amaze your kids.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:40 AM (MQEz6)

257 I had spent years building up a tolerance to Iocaine Powder.

...and now this.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:41 AM (16bOT)

258 Outside of the Army, the two major employers in Columbus, GA are Aflac and TSYS. Both of them are headquartered here and thus pretty good for the city.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:41 AM (nL0sw)

259 You are a total fucking moron. Keep preaching the Junior High version. You have an extra chromosome and have to wear a leash and a helmet? You racists always use others to do the heavy lifting.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:38 AM (hr4aJ)

******

You are very easy to ignore with shit posts like this.

So, off you go. Have a lovely day.

Posted by: Tim Allen at April 10, 2015 12:41 AM (hohwc)

260 Madonna allegedly had 11 abortions before the children (child?) she had with Guy Richie. Yikes

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:42 AM (zOTsN)

261 Illiterate Northerners created slums and urban blight.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:43 AM (hr4aJ)

262 Country Singer, that remind me:

I heard from my sister, who works for Verizon. It's actually going to be broken up.

Supposedly, Verizon in Southern California (and other places, I'd imagine) is going to become a company called Frontier. But I don't have all the details from her yet.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:43 AM (elbY7)

263 The Designated Hitter Rule is Here to Stay!

...f*** crossbows.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:43 AM (16bOT)

264 Women aren't funny. We pretend they are!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (16bOT)

265 Do another line choada boy. Humanity lost.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (hr4aJ)

266 Life begins at Forty!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (16bOT)

267 Fill in the blank - will always cause a knock down drag out fight.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (W5DcG)

268 245 Aflac's a good company.

We had Liberty Mutual (only choice, insurance or none). Won't go into detailes, but they screwed me food. I was glad to see the company drop them, but a year too late for me.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (WNkHZ)

269 Some Pigs are more equal than others!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:44 AM (16bOT)

270 Axelrod's Catamite Trolls are out in force.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (hr4aJ)

271 food = good (sheesh)

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (WNkHZ)

272
Fill in the blank - will always cause a knock down drag out fight.


I

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (UVfht)

273 Slums were first created in Venice. Hence the name ghetto is Italian.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (zOTsN)

274 Obamacare ain't that bad!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (16bOT)

275 Been a long day, so I'm off to pillowville.

But, a good day. I did get to meet a fellow Moron in a business meeting, this morning.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (RzZOc)

276 bergerbilder, LM screwed your *food*???

Yikes, that's an evil company. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (elbY7)

277 Not the war of northern aggression again. Shit I don't need this shit. Nobody ever changes anybody's mind anyway. What's the point? Unless we're choosin up sides again.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:46 AM (ucDmr)

278 Foreign intervention ain't the answer!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:46 AM (16bOT)

279 G'Night, Jim.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (16bOT)

280 Axelrod's Catamite Trolls are out in force.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (hr4aJ)

****

Your post made perfect sense.

Posted by: Tim Allen at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (ilEsF)

281 Who was it upthread wondering if we'd re-fight the late unpleasantness (again). Oh well.

Interesting anecdote about the Mexican war experience and Grant's appearance at Appomattox. Obviously due to the familiarity/friendship/former service together of so many officers on both sides and the common language and (to a degree) culture, the Civil War has the most amazing inter-personal stories of any I've studied. I think the Vicksburg surrender was delayed a few days by a snit between Grant and his Confederate opposite number, related to the fact that Grant owed him money (!) from their time together in California, and the Confederate officer therefore thought he was owed a few favors on surrender terms.

You just don't get that sort of stuff in most modern wars.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (afQnV)

282 Boss Moss they aren't trolls. Calm down. No one is insulting you but you are insulting others. Good grief

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (zOTsN)

283 Those fucker writers for "Elementary" just broadcast an episode where a "conservative" think tank is behind a murder.

Fuck them! I took the program off my "record" list.

You should too.

Fuck a whole bunch of gerbil-destroying , fisting, gloryhole-visiting cornholers.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (FkgZk)

284 Country is better than Rock n' Roll!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (16bOT)

285 I see Biden is molesting young mothers and their babies now.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:47 AM (WNkHZ)

286 Whoops, shedding sock.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:48 AM (hohwc)

287 276 bergerbilder, LM screwed your *food*???

Yikes, that's an evil company. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:45 AM (elbY7)

==============================

Or else inspired by the movie American Pie.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 10, 2015 12:48 AM (fjP++)

288 bergerbilder, LM screwed your *food*???

Read about that in Portnoy's Complaint.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:48 AM (W5DcG)

289 A fetus is NOT a baby!

...until it turns into one.

...Not yet, though!

-Like a cake and shit.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (16bOT)

290 Steve, that's interesting about Verizon breaking up. I guess it's all become cyclical in telecom; I got hired by Pacific Bell in San Diego, then it became SBC, and when I left it was ATT. All that in 3 1/2 years.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (nL0sw)

291 but they screwed me food.
------------------

Really.
Maybe Farmers Ins. would be better?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (F2IAQ)

292 Today is National Churchill Day, the anniversary of Sir Winston S. Churchill being named an honorary U.S. citizen in 1963.
To celebrate this Hillsdale College is offering their new 8 volume biography of him (Kindle edition) for free.
Link in the sig or go to Hilldale college dot edu and find it. You're welcome.

Posted by: Churchill's Ghost at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (Dyl6H)

293 Can I be against both sides? One evil, Slavery, being replaced with another, big gub'mint.

Do mind if I do.


Posted by: Oberst Wilhelm Klink at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (Vyg9x)

294 Their genes are too damaged for them to have minds. All of those diseases their mothers catch out on the corner plying their trade. This is why they are all broken syphilitic midgets.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (hr4aJ)

295

TV Note:

Tonight on The Vikings - The Siege of Paris: Viking longbows vs French crossbows

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 10, 2015 12:50 AM (kdS6q)

296 steve, 276 - I guess food is a good part of your livelihood.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:50 AM (WNkHZ)

297 Country, yep. It's as if all these orgs *take turns* being the country's largest communications company.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:50 AM (elbY7)

298 Great song that shoulda been a hit in the 1980s, but wasn't:

"Piece by Piece" by the Tubes. Great follow-up to "She's a Beauty."

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:51 AM (elbY7)

299 Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (hr4aJ)

Clowns are scary, but midget clowns..hoo boy.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)

300 bergerbilder, too much so, yes.

Need to lose weight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:51 AM (elbY7)

301 Drinks all around!

Posted by: U.S. Grant at April 10, 2015 12:51 AM (F2IAQ)

302 ..."This is why they are all broken syphilitic midgets."
-Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (hr4aJ)

When they play anything off their first album, "Smallpox" -?

I go back to a simpler time.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 12:51 AM (16bOT)

303 First episode of "Denpa Kyoushi"... Super science guy who doesn't care about science (only anime) becomes high school teacher and saves wannabe voice actress from cabal of mean girls.

so far... "meh"

I'll watch a few more episodes to see if it improves...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (0Ew3K)

304 Their genes are too damaged for them to have minds. All of those diseases their mothers catch out on the corner plying their trade. This is why they are all broken syphilitic midgets.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 10, 2015 12:49 AM (hr4aJ)

***

Please ask the Nurse and Doc to up both the Voltage and Dosage.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (9QUPT)

305 250: Well, at least you responded in a proper, civilized manner. Sometimes these conversations slip into viscous, nasty, personnel attacks. Well done sir, well done indeed.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (klBak)

306 For the reloaders among us, curiously, I see two handgun powders in stock at Powder Valley (HS-6 and WSF). They don't show up on the gunbot.net search engine.

Decided I've got enough powder to last me through this panic/shortage (now going on 2 full years, if you consider normal online availability the benchmark), so won't buy any.

But it's the first time I've seen pistol powder in stock there since just after the CT thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (afQnV)

307 They screwed me Lucky Charms!

Posted by: creepy leprechaun at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (/3D66)

308 General Grant was a woman deep down inside.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (MQEz6)

309 When will all the telecom companies join back together to become 21st century Ma Bell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (W5DcG)

310 261: LBJ was from Texas. ;-)

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (klBak)

311 Off to bed for me. Y'all have a good night. For those of you in the path of the storms tonight and tomorrow, stay safe!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (nL0sw)

312
309 When will all the telecom companies join back together to become 21st century Ma Bell?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (W5DcG)

Google it.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (MQEz6)

313 "General Grant was a woman deep down inside."
-Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (MQEz6)

Imagine your wardrobe as "Atlanta".

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 12:54 AM (16bOT)

314 G'Night, Country.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (16bOT)

315 They screwed me Lucky Charms!

And you ate them anyways.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (UVfht)

316 Interesting story from the Las Vegas Review-Journal. This guy just killed himself in front of the M Resort.

Turns out he won some sort of contest and got named M Resort's "Biggest Winner" of all time or something, and was rewarded with... free buffet dining forever, and was even allowed to bring a guest with him for every visit.

But...then he got complained about by female employees at M, claiming he was stalking them. So he got his buffet privileges revoked and, eventually, banned forever from the property.

The story includes some video of the guy that he left behind, included in which he talked about being horribly bullied.

I can relate, completely. But... killing yourself because *one* casino in Vegas banned you?? There was obviously some weird stuff going on with this guy.

"Suicide at M Resort Blamed on Loss of Free Buffet for Life"

http://tinyurl.com/l6j5kep

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (elbY7)

317 Nite Country.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 12:56 AM (ucDmr)

318 Cool about the Churchill/Hillsdale thing. If I only had whatever it is you read those ebooks on. Anway, need to read the Manchester books on that topic.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2015 12:56 AM (afQnV)

319 General Grant called himself Ursula and held that secret close.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:56 AM (MQEz6)

320 284: if by Country you mean Waylon Jennings, Bob Wills, and Merle Haggard, I'd agree.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:56 AM (klBak)

321 And you ate them anyways.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (UVfht)

****

They're Magically Delicious.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at April 10, 2015 12:56 AM (ilEsF)

322 steve - I actually lost over 50 lbs, but because I couldn't eat, not that I couldn't afford any food. I sure hope I don' get sick again any time soon - I couldn't take another 50 lb hit right now.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 12:57 AM (WNkHZ)

323 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (elbY7)

Michael Moore gets it.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:58 AM (MQEz6)

324 "General Grant was a woman deep down inside."
-Posted by: eman at April 10, 2015 12:52 AM (MQEz6)

Imagine Your Buddies as Richmond.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 12:58 AM (16bOT)

325
Never been too cunning, I'm no Linguist...

Posted by: Fee Waybill at April 10, 2015 12:58 AM (qry2M)

326 berger, hmm.

Can understand, there's only so much weight one person can lose, despite what the diet books like to say.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 12:58 AM (elbY7)

327 My wife "surprised" me with a nice little muzzle brake for my Mosin that doesn't need any gunsmithing to install, from mosinplus.com.

Looking forward to trying it out after my defibrillator implant next week. I'm going the full Cheney.

Probably not immediately after.

The battery in this thing is supposed to last 3-6 years, but I don't think the manufacturer knows I read Ace and Twitter and Larry Correia et al. I may need to go with an extension cord or cigarette lighter plug-in.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 10, 2015 12:59 AM (XO6WW)

328 I saw broken syphilitic midgets open for X in '81.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 12:59 AM (klBak)

329 They screwed me Lucky Charms!

And you ate them anyways.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 12:55 AM (UVfht)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-9uq_lyRQ

Posted by: Toucan Son of Sam at April 10, 2015 01:00 AM (0Ew3K)

330 "Never been too cunning, I'm no Linguist..."
-Posted by: Fee Waybill at April 10, 2015 12:58 AM (qry2M)

Abstract. +.02

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:00 AM (16bOT)

331 One of the things that traveling in The South has given me to thing about is this -- all 13 colonies had slavery when they were colonized. Slowly, over a period of years, the north eliminated it.....but when they did, they didn't free the slaves and eat the financial loss -- they hauled them over the state line and sold 'em (thus the expression, "sold down the river").




It doesn't excuse slavery, it doesn't change what happened, it doesn't fix any problems or soothe any anger......but it throws a whole lot of what I thought I knew into a different light.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:01 AM (T1005)

332 I dozed off waiting for the ONT, and now it's over 300 comments.

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 01:01 AM (sdi6R)

333
Abstract. +.02
Name of the song is 'Tip of my tongue'

Posted by: Prarie Prince at April 10, 2015 01:02 AM (qry2M)

334 ..."The battery in this thing is supposed to last 3-6 years, but I don't think the manufacturer knows I read Ace and Twitter and Larry Correia et al. I may need to go with an extension cord or cigarette lighter plug-in."
-Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 10, 2015 12:59 AM (XO6WW)

USB plug-ins FTW.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:02 AM (16bOT)

335 "I dozed off waiting for the ONT, and now it's over 300 comments."
-Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 01:01 AM (sdi6R)

You Snooze...

...you, uh, get more sleep.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:04 AM (16bOT)

336 Nite peeps. See you Monday.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 10, 2015 01:04 AM (ucDmr)

337 G'Night, Chavez.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:05 AM (16bOT)

338 Richard, best wishes on the cardio repair project - and wow, a muzzle brake on a Mosin? A 91/30? I don't do any add-ons or mods to my Mosins, but wondering if a brake will make your rifle any louder (bump from very loud to extremely loud, I guess).

Will check out mosinplus just for fun, anyway.

Which reminds me, I've got to take 1/10" off the coffee stir stick that's glued to my 1934 Tula front sight post. It was shooting a bit low last time, meaning I haven't yet trimmed down that stir stick enough. For all you Mosin owners who thing your front sight post is ground down too short, consider this solution (free, making it the most prestigious of redneck/garage gunsmithng moves).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2015 01:05 AM (afQnV)

339 Wow, I knew France's labor laws were nuts, but I didn't know that businesses could only be open on Sundays five times a year. One would hope they make an exception for hospitals.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 10, 2015 01:06 AM (KlVdw)

340 "Looking forward to trying it out after my defibrillator implant next
week. "

That's been recommended for me, also. I need to get my teeth fixed first, though. Good luck, and prayers (whether you want them or not.)

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:06 AM (WNkHZ)

341 One of the things that traveling in The South has given me to thing about is this -- all 13 colonies had slavery when they were colonized. Slowly, over a period of years, the north eliminated it.....but when they did, they didn't free the slaves and eat the financial loss -- they hauled them over the state line and sold 'em (thus the expression, "sold down the river").

It doesn't excuse slavery, it doesn't change what happened, it doesn't fix any problems or soothe any anger......but it throws a whole lot of what I thought I knew into a different light.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:01 AM (T1005)


Both feudalism and slavery were antithetical to the Anglo-Saxon weal we inherited.

The Left would condemn us for not responding to the evil of imposed slavery is some perfect manner.

The sane would recognize that it was anti-slavery societies, both in America and in Britain, that finally stood up to this historical norm and said "No More."

Posted by: The Hat o at April 10, 2015 01:08 AM (0Ew3K)

342 .

Posted by: The Hat o' Freedom at April 10, 2015 01:09 AM (0Ew3K)

343
Abstract. +.02
http://tinyurl.com/k3eozal

Posted by: A Tube at April 10, 2015 01:10 AM (qry2M)

344 Off dirty old sock.

Posted by: Oberst Wilhelm Klink at April 10, 2015 01:13 AM (Vyg9x)

345 Off! Off!! I say again OFF!!!

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 01:14 AM (Vyg9x)

346 Posted by: Toucan Son of Sam

That was probably the most disturbing video I've seen this hour.

Thanks!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 01:14 AM (UVfht)

347 The Left would condemn us for not responding to the evil of imposed slavery is some perfect manner.

The sane would recognize that it was anti-slavery societies, both in America and in Britain, that finally stood up to this historical norm and said "No More."
Posted by: The Hat o at April 10, 2015 01:08 AM (0Ew3K)


=======================

Always did wonder what would happen if you approached a leftist who was busy preachin' that we must respect other cultures and their mores, however disgusting to us, and asked if they would extend the same consideration to the antebellum South.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 10, 2015 01:15 AM (fjP++)

348 Technically, "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" is not about Appomattox, but the fall of Richmond a week earlier:

https://tinyurl.com/b5l74xd

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 01:15 AM (sdi6R)

349 So I'm looking at the adoption application for a dog rescue, and it is ridiculous. I'm shocked they didn't ask my blood type. I totally get that they are trying to make sure the dog goes to a stable home, but...wow.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:17 AM (MYCIw)

350 They want to know who will care for my pet in the event of my death.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:17 AM (MYCIw)

351 rickl, great song.

And even though it's considered a cliche by now, I admit I think Robbie Robertson was really on to something re how much the song sounds like it could be describing either 1865-70 *or* 1965-70.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 01:20 AM (elbY7)

352 350
They want to know who will care for my pet in the event of my death.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:17 AM (MYCIw)


Didja see the fine print where -- if they judged that person a better dog-owner than you -- they get to accelerate the process?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:21 AM (T1005)

353 ..."It doesn't excuse slavery, it doesn't change what happened, it doesn't fix any problems or soothe any anger......but it throws a whole lot of what I thought I knew into a different light."
-Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:01 AM (T1005)

Try explaining why the North fought for the 3/5 Clause and watch "Progressives" tell you to f***-off. Liberals might get it and turn to Libertarianism.

Nowadays, since desks, dogs and the deceased are still voting "D"--?

...well.

...pickle.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:22 AM (16bOT)

354 "they get to accelerate the process?"

Well...they did mention a home visit.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:22 AM (MYCIw)

355 I'm home. I should go drunk.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:26 AM (16bOT)

356 354
"they get to accelerate the process?"



Well...they did mention a home visit.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:22 AM (MYCIw)


Make sure you're carrying -- and never turn your back....on the human.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:27 AM (T1005)

357 355
I'm home. I should go drunk.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at April 10, 2015 01:26 AM (16bOT)


I may be ahead of you on that score.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 01:28 AM (T1005)

358 My youngest boy got a ~6 mo kitten from the shelter. This shelter is all cats, so not as picky. Its a pure blod silver persian (male) someone found in their barn. The fur was matted so bad they had to cut it all off except for black paws, tip of tail, and head. With that smooshed face and poodle cut, it's the ugliest, cutest thing.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:28 AM (WNkHZ)

359 Wait, why would you need to add a brake to a 91/30? With a hasty sling the Mosin has less felt recoil than a AR with a brake.

Also, Mosins are crap. Please to be sending all your crap commie rifles to me.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 10, 2015 01:29 AM (e+1S5)

360 I missed that the blog software had changed my nom de plume back to its original nomenclature.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 01:29 AM (16bOT)

361 *static*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at April 10, 2015 01:30 AM (16bOT)

362 Growing up we always got our cats from the shelter, but this is a whole 'nother ball game.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2015 01:31 AM (MYCIw)

363 Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:28 AM (WNkHZ)

You lost me at... youngest boy got a cat....

Wait... was he hungry???

Posted by: Alf at April 10, 2015 01:32 AM (qh617)

364 G'night, Coldbeer1.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:33 AM (WNkHZ)

365 I think it's fair to say the average northern soldier was fighting to end slavery (and I'm going to cite the Battle Hymn of the Republic in its original wording here) and have doubts as to whether the folks in DC were as interested in freeing *insert appropriate euphemism for blacks of that time here* as they were in preserving their territorial claims (which even on its face isn't completely nefarious-it was considered for quite a while to be a bad idea to let this content develop into several roughly equal powers for fear that we'd go the european route and fight each other every generation or so).

On the southern side, I don't know how you claim slavery wasn't part of it. What they wanted to prevent was having their slaves taken from them. Now, skipping for a moment the incompatibility of slavery with the American notion of freedom, they did kind of have a point that at the time, you're talking about financially ruining much of the south as slaves weren't *free* to their owners-even their deplorable living conditions had cost associated to it. It wasn't unreasonable for southerners to fight to protect their investments (as they saw them).

I've heard in recent years there had been an idea to buy out the South, but I'm not sure I believe that. At least not that it was taken very seriously. I don't know if DC could have raised enough to do it (considering there was no income tax at that point), but it'd be interesting in a head-of-a-pin sort of way to see those numbers crunched out. It would have been worth it to keep all those men on both sides alive, I think, but I doubt the case could have been really made before the war.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 01:34 AM (ZbV+0)

366 Alf, the boy or the cat? The "boy" is always hungry.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:34 AM (WNkHZ)

367 Posted by: The Hat o at April 10, 2015 01:08 AM (0Ew3K)

Uh.... Saxons took slaves....

So its all a matter of dates....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 01:35 AM (qh617)

368 >>>So I'm looking at the adoption application for a dog rescue, and it is ridiculous. I'm shocked they didn't ask my blood type. I totally get that they are trying to make sure the dog goes to a stable home, but...wow.

Back when we were in a row house in MD, we had a shelter turn us down, because the HOA didn't allow fences, so we were gonna put in an electric fence. That was inhumane apparently.

I absolutely lost my mind on that fat harridan. I've never been so close to striking a woman in my life. Awful experience. I actually said "if you're not off my property in one minute, you're trespassing, and I won't be calling the cops"

Apparently, an electric fence is waaaay worse than killing doggehs that need a forever home.

Posted by: DC in River City at April 10, 2015 01:37 AM (e+1S5)

369 365 I think it's fair to say the average northern soldier was fighting to end slavery


Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 01:34 AM (ZbV+0)


Horseshit.... the average Union soldier... was DRAFTED!

Please look up the history of the draft riots they had in New York...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 01:38 AM (qh617)

370 Saxon?

https://youtu.be/xy_Clys4ul4

(SFW)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 01:38 AM (UVfht)

371 Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 01:34 AM (ZbV+0)

Of my Family, who lived in Virginia... only ONE had ever even owned slaves... and he had freed them PRIOR to the Civil War...

Yet... of that side of the Family... I count over 20 who served the South...

ergo... my own family history says you are incorrect...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 01:41 AM (qh617)

372 First episode of "Etotama"

Nekomimi chick wants to join the Chinese Zodiac and some guy is somehow involved...

Worth another episode or so...

Posted by: 政治 の 帽子 at April 10, 2015 01:41 AM (0Ew3K)

373 351 rickl, great song.

And even though it's considered a cliche by now, I admit I think Robbie Robertson was really on to something re how much the song sounds like it could be describing either 1865-70 *or* 1965-70.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 01:20 AM (elbY7)



I made a comment last weekend about how Bob Dylan and the Band spent much of 1967 holed up in a house recording music that had nothing at all to do with the "Summer of Love", "psychedelia", or anything else that was going on at the time. This song seems to have been an outgrowth of that, although it was recorded and released two years later.

Most of the members of The Band were Canadian, by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_They_Drove_Old_Dixie_Down

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 01:42 AM (sdi6R)

374 Anyone here know when the last slave ship landed in America? It was quite a while before the war, as far as I know, and the breeding of slaves was an economic dead end eventually.

Any educated guesses as to how long slavery would have lasted without a dust-up?

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 01:42 AM (WNkHZ)

375 Really? The average Union Soldier was drafted? I guess in a way you could say that. A paid substitute could be considered a draft.

Under the Union draft act men faced the
possibility of conscription in July 1863 and in Mar., July, and Dec. 1864. Draft riots
ensued, notably in New York in 1863. Of the 249,259 18-to-35-year-old men whose names were
drawn, only about 6% served, the rest paying commutation or hiring a substitute.

Straight from Civilwarhome

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 01:43 AM (Vyg9x)

376
365 Methos at April 10, 2015 01:34 AM (ZbV+0)

I think it's fair to say the average northern soldier was fighting to end slavery


It's also necessary to look at the war before and after the Emancipation Proclamation.

Before - It's possible to argue that State's Rights was the primary issue, although the preceding 10+ years of Congressional bullshit has to be ignored.

After - It's tough to argue that slavery wasn't/ had not become the primary issue, particularly given the backdrop of the preceding 10+ years of Congressional bullshit.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2015 01:43 AM (FlRtG)

377 Saxon?

https://youtu.be/xy_Clys4ul4

(SFW)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2015 01:38 AM (UVfht)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-49noOAFsG8

Posted by: Þe Saxon Hat at April 10, 2015 01:43 AM (0Ew3K)

378 Horseshit.... the average Union soldier... was DRAFTED!



Please look up the history of the draft riots they had in New York...


Well that's a fair point. I don't know the ratio of honorary citizens to actual citizens in the northern army, so maybe I shouldn't have used the term average. But certainly it was many, even if it was rationalization for the shitty circumstance they found themselves in.

And I don't know what you think southerners were fighting for. You can say independence, but there wasn't any reason to want independence beyond protecting what they would have seen as their property rights, even if it wasn't they themselves that owned slaves.

That, by the way isn't me trying to pick a fight, as it's late. If you have a suggestion what motivated the South to split off and fight (or individuals to fight assuming they weren't similarly conscripted) that was totally unrelated to slavery, I'm interested in hearing it.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 01:51 AM (ZbV+0)

379 Saxon? I hardly knew 'on.




(Yeah, it's late.)

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 01:52 AM (sdi6R)

380 Okay everybody, gotta call it a night. Thanks once again for all the good wishes and fun chat.

Will have more job updates tomorrow night hopefully.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2015 01:56 AM (elbY7)

381 "But, my dear sirs, when peace does come, you may call on me for any thing. Then will I share with you the last cracker, and watch with you to shield your homes and families against danger from every quarter."

- W. T. Sherman


Thus is a good place to start a new discussion.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 10, 2015 02:00 AM (WNkHZ)

382 Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 01:51 AM (ZbV+0)

Its actually pretty simple... and this is from letters written at the time...

Remember that before the Civil War... you were considered to be a citizen of your STATE... and that State, was part of the Union.

It was THESE United States... not THE United States...

So when Virginia was invaded by the North... they rallied to defend their STATE... because that was who they felt loyalty to... not a Federal Government...

Note... every Confederate Unit, was from a State... raised by that State... there were no 'Federal' units like the North had.... and expanded as the War went on.

They were, very simply... defending their State...

My last name is not very common... and yet when you search the rolls of the Various Civil War Regiments... you will find that almost ALL of the Family served... mainly in the Cavalry.

Saying the South fought for Slavery, is like saying everyone on the Allied side in WW1, fought for the Archduke who got killed....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:01 AM (qh617)

383 So, I spent a couple hours watching Roadhouse earlier.
Couldn't help but wonder if Bill Murray was watching, too. And if he made his famous phone call.

Anyway:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hyflyJjJrf4

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 02:02 AM (3241I)

384 SpaceX has released a little two-minute highlight reel recorded in Ultra HD 4K.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmJgW-yMAIg

I don't know what 4K means exactly, but you have to select that with the "settings" button. Then it looks very nice in full screen mode.

I don't know whether my 11 year old widescreen monitor and modem will support that. I've been told that I need to upgrade my modem.

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 02:06 AM (sdi6R)

385 Maybe not individuals. Individuals probably did fight for their State. How many of those actually read and under stood their State's Article, Act, or Resolution of Succession?

For example here is South Carolina's

South Carolina: We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection."

Awful lot about there about Slavery.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:07 AM (Vyg9x)

386 Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:01 AM (qh617)

The loyalties were complicated, and people fought on the sides they did for a wide number of reasons. One of my ancestors tried to be neutral and just go on living his life until the South tried to strongarm him into giving up a small saltpeter mine he owned to make gunpowder for the war. Southern raiders began attacking the outlying farms to put pressure on the town, and his response was to raise a Union militia to protect it. He was assassinated for it, but it angered the old men who made up the militia enough that they drove the raiders out of East TN back into North Carolina.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2015 02:12 AM (J+mig)

387 That would be a 4096 x 2160 screen resolution. I think.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:13 AM (Vyg9x)

388 385
Awful lot about there about Slavery.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:07 AM (Vyg9x)



Perhaps it was like today, where the interests of the elites and the interests of the average person do not necessarily coincide.

Today's "elites" certainly seem to be hell-bent on unlimited immigration, no matter what "the people" think or want.

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 02:14 AM (sdi6R)

389 If only one could go back in time and warn the slaveholders: "your descendents will elect a marxist Kenyan out of guilt, and his aim will be the undoing of America. Not only is slavery immoral, but from a national point of view of self interest, it is short sighted and suicidal. This blot on our escutcheon will be used by power hungry, envious, devious persons as an excuse to destroy the fairest system of government the world has ever seen."

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at April 10, 2015 02:15 AM (cIoI4)

390 "Perhaps it was like today, where the interests of the elites and the
interests of the average person do not necessarily coincide."

I would agree.

I would also say that the average Southern Soldier did fight for his State regardless of reason. The State that Soldier lived in? All you have to do is read the Articles, Acts, Resolutions of Succession. States Rights? You bet. The "States Right" to own another human being.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:18 AM (Vyg9x)

391 Awful lot about there about Slavery.


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:07 AM (Vyg9x)


Slavery? you can look at it that way...

Or you can look at it as Property Rights...

It all comes down to your assumptions.

Its just like abortion... Murder? or a Woman's Right? Depends on your assumptions...

But I stand by the FACT that the South pretty much Volunteered for that fight... even though there were only 384,000 slave owners... of more than 8 MILLION Southerners.. ie less than 5% of the South WERE Slave Owners.

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:19 AM (qh617)

392 Just my unconsidered opinion here but slavery was doomed anyway. Slave labor could not compete with Free Market labor. I would have given it not much time past 1870.


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:20 AM (Vyg9x)

393 389
Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at April 10, 2015 02:15 AM (cIoI4)



Threadwinner.

Yet it was only a tiny blot on our illustrious escutcheon.

Posted by: rickl at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (sdi6R)

394 I always liked the joke from the Simpsons when Apu is taking the civics test to become a citizen.

Tester: What was the cause of the Civil War?

Apu: Actually, there were numerous causes, aside from the obvious schism between abolitionists & anti-abolitionists, economic factors both domestic & international played....

Tester: Hey, hey....just...just say slavery.

Apu: Slavery it is, sir!

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (JoIcn)

395 It was THESE United States... not THE United States...

Fair enough. I can believe people would fight for their neighbors against the barbarians on the other side of a line, as that's kind of the whole of human history.

I still don't think secession would have happened at the level of the southern states leaders (and thus the northern invasion) but for the disagreement with the north on the slave issue. Which, I wouldn't say much of anyone chose to fight to avenge the archduke beyond some of his relatives who didn't themselves fight, but I would say folks fought as a result of the assassination. With all of the treaties Europe had entangled itself in, something would have set off much the same thing if he hadn't gotten whacked, but since that event occurred, it set fire to the powder.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (ZbV+0)

396 Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:20 AM (Vyg9x)

Yup.... the industrial revolution would have killed slavery anyway.... making it economically unviable (IMO)....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (qh617)

397 "Or you can look at it as Property Rights..."

Again, the biggest stated cause was the Non Slave Slave holding States were a threat to the Slave holding States right to legally consider another human being "property".

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (Vyg9x)

398 Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at April 10, 2015 02:15 AM (cIoI4)

I'd bring that argument to the Southern representatives who insisted on removing the language condemning the slave trade from the Declaration. If we'd included that from the beginning, there would have been no slavery issue for the Civil War to be fought over.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2015 02:25 AM (J+mig)

399 Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (Vyg9x)

Or.... you can look at it as...

We have this law, and YOU want to change our law...

Thus it was about Power... Slavery was just the cause... (which is what I think it was... and we see the results today in an over powerful Federal Government, who does not admit to Constitutional Limits).

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:26 AM (qh617)

400 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2015 02:25 AM (J+mig)

I agree... and the Federal Power grab that the Civil War enabled would not have happened... and I think we would be in a much more Free country today...

But that's hindsight...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:28 AM (qh617)

401 "being uncomfortable is the strongest form of rhetoric that our millennial generation wields in the struggle against all forms of oppression"

Read more at NRO: http://tinyurl.com/pqc7dtu

Crying, whining babies got to cry and whine... avoid hiring these types at all costs, people.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 10, 2015 02:31 AM (95CzI)

402 "Or.... you can look at it as...



We have this law, and YOU want to change our law...
"

Sorry but the answer to that is no. I will not make any moral equivalency with a law that legalizes the ownership of another Human Being. No matter what you skin color is you have a Right given by God to be free. You can surrender that right any time you want but no words on a piece of paper carry any legal weight at all.

Any law that takes away your Life or Liberty is meaningless. No individual has any moral duty to obey.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:32 AM (Vyg9x)

403 Just my unconsidered opinion here but slavery was doomed anyway. Slave labor could not compete with Free Market labor.

I don't know about free market labor if you mean hiring the same folks you had been keeping with the bare minimum of resources to keep them working, but mechanization would have eaten the slaveholders' lunch eventually. Someone more familiar with tech progress than me (all I know I learned from Civ 4) might guess whether that could have been accomplished before the cash from the hypothetical great slave buyout ran out.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 02:34 AM (ZbV+0)

404 a new form of Tyranny replaced the old form. The Civil War in a nutshell.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:34 AM (Vyg9x)

405 Besides my small flaw of turning the US into a powder keg & not giving a shit......I had an illustrious Presidency.

Posted by: James Buchanan at April 10, 2015 02:35 AM (JoIcn)

406 I don't know about free market labor if you mean
hiring the same folks you had been keeping with the bare minimum of
resources to keep them working, but mechanization would have eaten the
slaveholders' lunch eventually. Someone more familiar with tech progress
than me (all I know I learned from Civ 4) might guess whether that
could have been accomplished before the cash from the hypothetical great
slave buyout ran out.


Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 02:34 AM (ZbV+0)

You said it better than I could have.
Have you tried Civ V yet?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:37 AM (Vyg9x)

407 Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:32 AM (Vyg9x)

You are looking at this issue through todays prism.... through todays philosophy.

I am asking you to put that aside, and see why someone MAY fight... based on the prevalent belief at the time.

did every German fight for Nazism? No, they fought for Germany.

Did every Russian fight for Stalin? No, they fought for Mother Russia....

Yet we constantly are told that every Southerner fought for Slavery....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:38 AM (qh617)

408 My US history knowledge of the 1800's is pretty pitiful. I'm way better with ancient history.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 10, 2015 02:39 AM (FMbng)

409 Yet we constantly are told that every Southerner fought for Slavery....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:38 AM (qh617)

And I have already conceded that point. The individual fought for many of reasons. The reason why the State fought was a bit more one dimensional.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:40 AM (Vyg9x)

410 did every German fight for Nazism? No, they fought for Germany.

Did every Russian fight for Stalin? No, they fought for Mother Russia....

Yet we constantly are told that every Southerner fought for Slavery....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:38 AM (qh617)


What the hell were they fighting for then? They were Americans in America fighting other Americans. Were they fighting for America? Seriously, I'm curious.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 10, 2015 02:42 AM (FMbng)

411 385
Maybe not individuals. Individuals probably did fight for their State.
How many of those actually read and under stood their State's Article,
Act, or Resolution of Succession?

For example here is South Carolina's

South
Carolina: We affirm that these ends for which this Government was
instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made
destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those
States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our
domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property
established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution;
they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have
permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed
object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the
citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of
our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been
incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection."

Awful lot about there about Slavery.


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:07 AM (Vyg9x)


Again, when you look at this as 13 slave-holding colonies, they pretty much all had slaves before about 1750. The Constitution held that there would be no Federal action against slavery until 1808. In the meantime, northern states shipped their slaves south and barred the door -- quoting liberally from Wikipedia: "Vermont's 1777 constitution made no allowance for slavery. In
Massachusetts, slavery was successfully challenged in court in 1783". [http://tinyurl.com/6kdgw9]

"Most northern states passed legislation for gradual abolition, first
freeing children born to slave mothers (and providing for them to serve
indentures to their mother's masters, often into their 20s as young
adults). As a result of this gradualist approach, New York did not free
its last slaves until 1827, Rhode Island had five slaves still listed in
the 1840 census, Pennsylvania's last slaves were freed in 1847,
Connecticut did not completely abolish slavery until 1848, and slavery
was not completely lifted in New Hampshire and New Jersey until the
nationwide emancipation in 1865."

The US criminalized the international slave trade in 1808.

So, now we see what is missing from the SC statement: "You assholes. You were all 'whee, let's have slaves!' until it started getting morally difficult to justify, whereupon you sold all of yours down here. Now that all the slaves are down here and you have all the money, you jackasses are all 'holier-than-thou' and 'it's sinful' and want to meddle with our shit, when -- thanks to you -- we can't sell 'em off internationally to Mexico or Brazil or sell them West to Arizona. And, to add insult to injury, you're setting up abolitionist societies to come down here and preach 'kill whitey' bullshit."

So, yeah -- there is a lot in there about slavery.....but it's not necessarily all about slavery.



Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:43 AM (T1005)

412 389
If only one could go back in time and warn the slaveholders: "your
descendents will elect a marxist Kenyan out of guilt, and his aim will
be the undoing of America. Not only is slavery immoral, but from a
national point of view of self interest, it is short sighted and
suicidal. This blot on our escutcheon will be used by power hungry,
envious, devious persons as an excuse to destroy the fairest system of
government the world has ever seen."

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at April 10, 2015 02:15 AM (cIoI4)


They were already backed into a corner by having so many "sold down the river". A lot of 'em knew they were fucked.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:45 AM (T1005)

413 "So, now we see what is missing from the SC statement: "You assholes. You
were all 'whee, let's have slaves!' until it started getting morally
difficult to justify, whereupon you sold all of yours down here. Now
that all the slaves are down here and you have all the money, you
jackasses are all 'holier-than-thou' and 'it's sinful' and want to
meddle with our shit, when -- thanks to you -- we can't sell 'em off
internationally to Mexico or Brazil or sell them West to Arizona. And,
to add insult to injury, you're setting up abolitionist societies to
come down here and preach 'kill whitey' bullshit."

Justification for the ownership of human beings by other human beings?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:46 AM (Vyg9x)

414 What the hell were they fighting for then? They were Americans in America fighting other Americans. Were they fighting for America? Seriously, I'm curious.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 10, 2015 02:42 AM (FMbng)


They did not consider themselves Americans... that's the point...

They were New Yorkers... or Virginians... they were fighting for their STATE...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:47 AM (qh617)

415 396
Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:20 AM (Vyg9x)



Yup.... the industrial revolution would have killed slavery anyway.... making it economically unviable (IMO)....

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:22 AM (qh617)


Part of the problem was that, historically, any society who attempted to free slaves en masse.....suffered 30%+ casualties from the inevitable backlash violence.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:48 AM (T1005)

416 Y'all about as much fun tonight as an asthma attack tonight.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 02:48 AM (3241I)

417 Have you tried Civ V yet?

Yeah, that's why I referenced Civ 4.

I really wanted to like 5, with the generalizing of the happiness mechanic and Panzer General style combat. The problem is the mods for 4 were just immense. I mean if you play a game all day to take your people from the discovery of fire to get within sight of writing, all the while fighting a general war against barbarians, you really feel like you've accomplished some history.

5 for all that it added felt like a streamlined version of 4. Which I guess is okay if your the staff at firaxis and want to finish a game in an afternoon, but it just felt terribly empty even with both expansions. I have to play it (and it's been a while since I did) with like 120 mods for wonders and infrastructure just to feel like I've got a complete game, and the AI is dreadful. I've actually had to turn barbarians off to keep the computer players in the game because they refuse to defend their settlers.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 02:49 AM (ZbV+0)

418 I have three descendants that fought in the Civil War. Two were in the 29th Illinois Infantry and one in the 31st Illinois Infantry. They are buried within 10 feet of each other in the family plot in Bloomington.

They did not leave behind much in the way of writings or even letters to home. I have often wondered what motivated them.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:51 AM (Vyg9x)

419 "I have to play it (and it's been a while since I did) with like 120 mods"


LoL I have about 20 installed. One thing I miss is the random events and quests.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:52 AM (Vyg9x)

420 413
"So, now we see what is missing from the SC statement: "You assholes. You

were all 'whee, let's have slaves!' until it started getting morally

difficult to justify, whereupon you sold all of yours down here. Now

that all the slaves are down here and you have all the money, you

jackasses are all 'holier-than-thou' and 'it's sinful' and want to

meddle with our shit, when -- thanks to you -- we can't sell 'em off

internationally to Mexico or Brazil or sell them West to Arizona. And,

to add insult to injury, you're setting up abolitionist societies to

come down here and preach 'kill whitey' bullshit."

Justification for the ownership of human beings by other human beings?


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:46 AM (Vyg9x)


No, justification of "if we're going to get off this tiger -- we all do it together....you don't ship all the risks and problems down south and say, 'it's your problem now' -- especially not with our money in your pocket."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:52 AM (T1005)

421 They did not consider themselves Americans... that's the point...

They were New Yorkers... or Virginians... they were fighting for their STATE...


Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:47 AM (qh617)


So all the states in the south were fighting for their home state?? Was each state just going to become its own country?

yeah like I said, my 1800's history is shit. I always seem to avoid that century for some reason.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 10, 2015 02:53 AM (FMbng)

422 Part of the problem was that, historically, any society who attempted to
free slaves en masse.....suffered 30%+ casualties from the inevitable
backlash violence.


Word.

Posted by: Pharoah thinking he should have just let those people go at April 10, 2015 02:54 AM (ZbV+0)

423 416
Y'all about as much fun tonight as an asthma attack tonight.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 02:48 AM (3241I)


It got started late and my ankle's being a bitch. I was on a quest to a feed store today and was thinking of Tucker -- I'm glad the rat is hanging in there.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:55 AM (T1005)

424 Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:51 AM (Vyg9x)

/looks at the Civil War Saber hanging on his wall...

Its a Union Saber.... taken by my Father's ancestor... Virginia Volunteer Cavalry...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:56 AM (qh617)

425 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 10, 2015 02:53 AM (FMbng)

they considered themselves to be Sovereign States... who were then part of a Union...

Kind of like the EU is today...

Posted by: BB Wolf at April 10, 2015 02:57 AM (qh617)

426 To draw a parallel today -- this would be like the US passing environmental standards that made it impossible to actually make anything, shipping all "dirty" industry off to China, then bitching at China for being all nasty and polluting and stuff.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:59 AM (T1005)

427 ""if we're going to get off this tiger -- we all do it together."

Neither side was willing to cooperate with the other.

What would have happened had those South Carolina Militiamen been ordered not to fire upon Fort Sumnter?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:59 AM (Vyg9x)

428 426
To draw a parallel today -- this would be like the US passing
environmental standards that made it impossible to actually make
anything, shipping all "dirty" industry off to China, then bitching at
China for being all nasty and polluting and stuff.


Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:59 AM (T1005)


Oh, wait -- that's happening.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 02:59 AM (T1005)

429 Since both sides of the family ended up in prison camps during the Uncivil War, a pox on both your houses!

Hell, I'm lucky to even be here. The Irish are tough bastards.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at April 10, 2015 03:00 AM (uPxUo)

430 It got started late and my ankle's being a bitch. I was on a quest to a feed store today and was thinking of Tucker -- I'm glad the rat is hanging in there.

Posted by: cthulhu
-------------------------
No excuse - I gave you a chance to talk about The Hotness of Kelly Lynch. Or the Coolness of Wade Garrett. ..

*And, I told Tucker you called him a rat - he's looking forward to biting you. Again.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 03:04 AM (3241I)

431 427
""if we're going to get off this tiger -- we all do it together."

Neither side was willing to cooperate with the other.

What would have happened had those South Carolina Militiamen been ordered not to fire upon Fort Sumnter?


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at April 10, 2015 02:59 AM (Vyg9x)


My belief is that we'd have different footnotes, but the history of the war would have been much the same. Again, the whole idea of cramming the slave problem into fewer and fewer states while the other states got more-and-more self-righteous about it was a recipe for disaster.

Just for fun-and-games, Liberia (in Africa) became a country in 1847 in an ultimately-doomed attempt to provide a safety valve. What if it had worked? What if the 3.2 million slaves on the 1850 US census had mostly shipped out?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:07 AM (T1005)

432 430
It got started late and my ankle's being a bitch. I was on a quest to a
feed store today and was thinking of Tucker -- I'm glad the rat is
hanging in there.



Posted by: cthulhu

-------------------------

No excuse - I gave you a chance to talk about The Hotness of Kelly Lynch. Or the Coolness of Wade Garrett. ..



*And, I told Tucker you called him a rat - he's looking forward to biting you. Again.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 03:04 AM (3241I)


Next time I'm out there, I'm going to spend as much effort winning him over as I spent riling him up last time.....and you're going to have to be careful he doesn't decide to hop in my rental car when I go.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:10 AM (T1005)

433 I thought the last bit of the video with Jeff Healey and Patrick Swayze was a nice bit of fun.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:13 AM (T1005)

434 416 Y'all about as much fun tonight as an asthma attack tonight.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 02:48 AM (3241I)

*********

Nowadays, we oppress third world nations with global warming induced asthma attacks instead of slavery. Once the Great Satan is destroyed, then the world can be as one.

Posted by: Al Gore at April 10, 2015 03:14 AM (XrHO0)

435 Stand in line, cooth.
Everybody wants to dognap him - LJ, Mom, sis, neighbor, his ex, Shirley...
hell, his midnight farts would probably break the CPAP machine, anyway. You're better off just visiting.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 03:19 AM (3241I)

436 What am I doing here?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 03:37 AM (0FSuD)

437 As a total aside, I noted something interesting and peculiar as I was tooling around the south in the last couple of years.



If' I'm tooling around North Carolina, and pull off the road to fill-up at a gas station, and 80% of the people I see around are black, it's no big deal. If I'm tooling around Oakland or LA, and pull off the road to fill-up at a gas station, and 80% of the people I see around are black, I'll get back on the road.



A lot of SJW would love to scream "racism" here -- to which I'll gladly reply "fuck you sideways with a rusty barbed-wire wrapped pineapple." Some of that ilk might go, "oh, you're biased against Oakland or LA" -- and I might even cop to that. But it's peculiar. I once ended up in a high-end enclosed shopping mall in Atlanta where it looked like I was one of three white people in the entire place.....and very much felt like everyone was staring at me (they probably were), but never felt threatened. Pinned-down on a microscope slide, sure -- but not threatened.




It's almost like there's some weird cofactor that's at work. Like if you're Irish and wear a purple shirt, you're 30% likely to become violent -- and if you're black and wear a purple shirt, you're 90% likely to become violent.....but it's so much easier to notice if you're black than if you're Irish that your screening algorithm goes: "black -- look for purple shirt NOW! otherwise, see if you casually notice any purple shirts."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:37 AM (T1005)

438 Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:37 AM (T1005)

I thought it was being green and wearing purple pants that was correlated to violence?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2015 03:48 AM (J+mig)

439 438
Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:37 AM (T1005)



I thought it was being green and wearing purple pants that was correlated to violence?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2015 03:48 AM (J+mig)


Everyone is safe -- green, tentacle-face, and no pants leads only to ONT posts.....not violence.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 03:50 AM (T1005)

440 What if the 3.2 million slaves on the 1850 US census had mostly shipped out?

Liberia would be a bigger player in its neck of the woods, the name obama would be unknown to us today, but some ideological twin of his would be president in a generation anyway.

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 03:56 AM (ZbV+0)

441 440
What if the 3.2 million slaves on the 1850 US census had mostly shipped out?

Liberia
would be a bigger player in its neck of the woods, the name obama would
be unknown to us today, but some ideological twin of his would be
president in a generation anyway.


Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 03:56 AM (ZbV+0)


Another one of those "hmmmm" things is that The Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 only freed slaves in the unoccupied areas of the Confederacy. Anywhere under Union control was unchanged. Even the 1865 13th Amendment extended only to states....Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) retained slavery until 1866.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:10 AM (T1005)

442 I feel bad that I can't cavort and sing and dance and divert everyone from the suck of the day....but the fact is that I fell and hosed my ankle, and now I'm talking about slavery to try to divert myself from the grim task of finalizing the fiancee's tax return.




I should probably try for a more cheerful topic.....like, maybe, rhubarb.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:18 AM (T1005)

443 Here's another more cheerful topic -- the spring open house this weekend -- http://sbhrs.org/

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:21 AM (T1005)

444 Or, maybe some of you are goodeid fans -- http://cichlidworld.com/

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:23 AM (T1005)

445 Your just asking for a dead horse in your office, Maet.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 10, 2015 04:25 AM (zRby/)

446 The fiancee and I are going to be lining up early for http://tinyurl.com/cmvsfq .

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:27 AM (T1005)

447 rhubarb, rhubarb.

Peas and carrots, peas and carrots.

*laugh track here*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 10, 2015 04:27 AM (zRby/)

448 447
rhubarb, rhubarb.

Peas and carrots, peas and carrots.

*laugh track here*


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 10, 2015 04:27 AM (zRby/)


I am given to understand that background extras were expected to be "nattering and grommishing" during scenes.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:31 AM (T1005)

449 Crap, the house is five degrees hot and I've been figuring it was cooling over the last two hours.....but the fiancee buttoned it up before going to bed.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 04:42 AM (T1005)

450 If hillary clinton and juan jeb bush jumped off the empire state building who would win. Anwser: the american people!

Posted by: captain*arizona at April 10, 2015 05:01 AM (wQnMN)

451 It is hard to believe that it has been almost 20 years since the clocks stopped in Oklahoma. How time flies. I suppose that Barack will play a round of golf on the 19th. Nothing wrong with that, in and of itself, but he is such an a-hole and a hateful puke. Send someone at least, Barack, and show just a smidgen of class.

Posted by: goon at April 10, 2015 05:04 AM (A53Jp)

452 Having a Ready For Hillary '16 sticker on my wood chipper.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (EwcYx)

Nice.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 05:14 AM (WIUGG)

453 452
Having a Ready For Hillary '16 sticker on my wood chipper.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 09, 2015 11:58 PM (EwcYx)



Nice.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 05:14 AM (WIUGG)


Could be on his septic tank.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 05:32 AM (T1005)

454 Ugh.
can't get to sleep. Been watching interviews with Whipper Layton & Tommy Shannon for too long now. And listening to Stevie caress Number One.
And that twelve string on MTV - is that a Guild?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 05:42 AM (GMIOa)

455 454
Ugh.

can't get to sleep. Been watching interviews with Whipper Layton
Tommy Shannon for too long now. And listening to Stevie caress
Number One.

And that twelve string on MTV - is that a Guild?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 05:42 AM (GMIOa)


SRV is surely missed....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 05:44 AM (T1005)

456 I listened to a bunch of Jeff Healy tonight. Then read a lot - did you know that his eyes were surgically removed at 11 months? Some rare cancer...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 05:49 AM (GMIOa)

457 I can see my granddaughter doing this in a matter of months...

https://tinyurl.com/mf9mmkx

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2015 05:51 AM (OsWis)

458 456
I listened to a bunch of Jeff Healy tonight. Then read a lot - did you
know that his eyes were surgically removed at 11 months? Some rare
cancer...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 10, 2015 05:49 AM (GMIOa)


I'd heard about him some years ago -- and, as usual, promptly forgot all about it. But he's pretty damned good.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2015 05:51 AM (T1005)

459 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 05:52 AM (jhIxG)

460 Vic:

https://tinyurl.com/ow5jp5w

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2015 06:02 AM (OsWis)

461 Morning everyone.

I see National Geographic is giving Neal DeGracias Tyson a new show called Star Talk. Among the guests lined up are George Takei and Jimmy Carter.

Oh my, how do I wish a Bugblatter Beast could visit that show. Or a Silasctic ArmourFiend.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 06:03 AM (VHZLH)

462 heya Anna.

The dumbing down of America via pseudo-science continues.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2015 06:05 AM (OsWis)

463 You mean like this? From just two samples in UAE and Italy, acidification of the ocean caused the coup de grace of the Permian Extinction. And well gee claim the scientists we are seeing such an acidification now in the oceans because of humans...
http://tinyurl.com/opjoquq

Dear science boffins, I don't give a wank about how it could relate to current events. The Permian Extinction is still a great mystery. That I want to know about. I want to add another book to stand beside Gorgon by Peter D. Ward.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 06:15 AM (VHZLH)

464 So aloha SMFH!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 06:21 AM (VHZLH)

465 can't get to sleep.

Tell me about it.

Got Perkus Maximus for Skyrim to work about three hours ago and can't stop mod shopping

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 06:24 AM (ZbV+0)

466 Aloha kakahiaka back atcha : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2015 06:24 AM (OsWis)

467 And in other news, this President is solving another pressing national issues - the White House is deploying a gender-neutral bathroom.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 06:31 AM (VHZLH)

468 And in other news, this President is solving another pressing national
issues - the White House is deploying a gender-neutral bathroom.


In unrelated news, Obama will be presenting Bruce Jenner with the Presidential Medal of Freedom...

Posted by: Methos at April 10, 2015 06:41 AM (ZbV+0)

469 " the White House is deploying a gender-neutral bathroom."

So no matter which side of the bed Obama wakes up on, he can take a leak without undue judgement from the Secret Service detail?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 06:46 AM (jhIxG)

470 I see National Geographic is giving Neal DeGracias Tyson a new show called Star Talk. Among the guests lined up are George Takei and Jimmy Carter.


That there is ratings gold baby!!!

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 10, 2015 07:03 AM (klBak)

471 *Tap..tap*


Testing..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:03 AM (jhIxG)

472 Looks like I need to issue an executive order that all noods be put up on time.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 10, 2015 07:04 AM (XrHO0)

473 "Looks like I need to issue an executive order that all noods be put up on time."

Shut up, and golf.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:06 AM (jhIxG)

474 Otherwise the FCC will fine you.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 10, 2015 07:06 AM (cIoI4)

475 Near blizzard conditions outside. Lights blinking. Roads are a mess. Thank God for Global Warming.


Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:06 AM (EYLR0)

476 Well, we could talk about rhubarb.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 07:13 AM (WIUGG)

477 Just what I like, consistency. Everything was early yesterday so have to be late today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:15 AM (wlDny)

478 scanning Bing News headlines, apparently five dead in separate incidents of excessive police force where innocent citizens are fleeing crime scenes.

Census bureau guard shot. Police chase and brutally murder suspect.

Man in police custody brutally murdered when cops unleash dogs. A poor boy suffering mental illness is brutally murdered when his family call for help.

Police murder a driver after a chase.

When will Obama put a stop to these heinous crimes and nationalize the police.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:16 AM (EYLR0)

479 . . . and its economic impact on the War of the Recent Unfortunancies.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 07:16 AM (WIUGG)

480 G'morning Vic.

Did you get the kitchen dried out?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:16 AM (jhIxG)

481 In world news the PLO says they will not be suckered into a war with the Islamic State over the plight of Palestinian refugees in camps in Syria.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:18 AM (EYLR0)

482 Who's ever heard of the Carolina Cricket League? Me either, but just got a call to work a semi-final match tomorrow in Climax, NC. Won't know until tonight what my role will be. Should be interesting.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2015 07:19 AM (2cS/G)

483 480 Did you get the kitchen dried out?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:16 AM (jhIxG)

The cabinets are dry but I have the fans now blowing directly on the area where the lower cabinet meets the wall. I actually had water pouring from beneath the cabinets through the wall to the outside of the house. I am trying to dry that now. (without ripping out the wall)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:19 AM (wlDny)

484 The floor I had cleaned up within a couple of hours.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:20 AM (wlDny)

485 You wanted rhubarb.
You'd settle for RuPaul.
You'll get Bruce Jenner.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 10, 2015 07:20 AM (3F6F8)

486
A) Where the hell is the morning thread?

B) Why in the hell is the top ad below the masthead from Lamda Legal?

C) Good in the hell Morning!


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 10, 2015 07:21 AM (St6BJ)

487 BTWII: I replaced both of the faucet hoses with the stainless steel hoses.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:21 AM (wlDny)

488
Second attempt

Washington Post

Pakistan lawmakers defy Saudi Arabia and vote to stay out of war in Yemen.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:21 AM (EYLR0)

489 485 You wanted rhubarb.
You'd settle for RuPaul.
You'll get Bruce Jenner.
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 10, 2015 07:20 AM (3F6F


Or Rand Paul.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 10, 2015 07:21 AM (St6BJ)

490 488
Second attempt

Washington Post

Pakistan lawmakers defy Saudi Arabia and vote to stay out of war in Yemen.
Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:21 AM (EYLR0)


But will they not sell the Saudis a do it yourself nuke?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 10, 2015 07:22 AM (St6BJ)

491 If we don't have the morning thread by 07:30 I'll post the news links here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:22 AM (wlDny)

492 In world news the PLO says they will not be suckered into a war with the
Islamic State over the plight of Palestinian refugees in camps in
Syria.


In other world news, muzzies kill each other and anyone else they come in contact with for no apparent reason.

Posted by: hadoop at April 10, 2015 07:23 AM (2X7pN)

493 Thanks for your kitchen pipe story and for the followup, Vic. Makes for a good story--and I hope a happy ending.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 07:25 AM (WIUGG)

494 I hope to have no more of those "stories".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:26 AM (wlDny)

495 487
BTWII: I replaced both of the faucet hoses with the stainless steel hoses.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Yep, cheap insurance vs water damage from on that runs over a weekend in an upstairs bathroom resulting in a remodel of said bathroom, and the room below it in the garage.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at April 10, 2015 07:27 AM (74McK)

496 Vic
Smart move in the faucet hoses.
When we were stationed in Jacksonville, all the tract homes had that plastic water piping.
Lots of pinholes, ruptures and nail nicks causing leaks throughout the development.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:27 AM (jhIxG)

497 Indeed.

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 07:27 AM (WIUGG)

498
io9

150,000 year old neanderthal skull yields DNA

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mwcx8hj

We have the technology, we can rebuild him. (Obscure quote from old TV series, not from the article)

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:28 AM (EYLR0)

499 495 Yep, cheap insurance vs water damage from on that
runs over a weekend in an upstairs bathroom resulting in a remodel of
said bathroom, and the room below it in the garage.


Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at April 10, 2015 07:27 AM (74McK)

I don't think I will have to rip out and replace anything. I am watching it close.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:28 AM (wlDny)

500 "150,000 year old neanderthal skull yields DNA
"

So simple, even a caveman can do it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:29 AM (jhIxG)

501 Caveman Oog 2016?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 07:30 AM (VHZLH)

502 "Caveman Oog 2016?"

Until someone focuses on his dating habits in college.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:31 AM (jhIxG)

503 Good Morning Morons. Today is Friday, April 10, 2015. On this day in 1963 the submarine USS Thresher was lost at sea with 129 seamen aboard. The Navy believes she was lost due to a broken saltwater connection that sprayed on an electrical panel causing a reactor scram. Following the scram the blowing of ballast tanks failed due to moisture in the high pressure air causing the lines to freeze.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:31 AM (wlDny)

504
All this Madonna bashing. Say what you will about her but she is worth $800 million bucks.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 07:32 AM (iQIUe)

505 Severe weather headed East so standby.


One person was killed and seven others were injured Thursday after a tornado tore through a tiny Illinois town, part of a storm system that pummeled large parts of the central U.S. and is forecast to bring severe storms to the East Coast Friday.


http://fxn.ws/1ch4jRT

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:32 AM (wlDny)

506 Yet another Obama display of churlish attitude toward the US military. Ft Hood shooting victims did get the Purple Heart, but they will get no benefits.


http://fxn.ws/1Fp59Zb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:32 AM (wlDny)

507 Friction in the Demoncrap Party??? Would be a good time for the stupid Party to gain some more but there is even more friction in their Party.


http://fxn.ws/1GvLozn

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:32 AM (wlDny)

508 Man of unknown name, race, origin, or anything shoots a census building guard in DC (killing him) and takes off with a woman he had grabbed. The stories more and more hide everything about a perp if they are one of the "protected" class.


http://fxn.ws/1yawYBR

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (wlDny)

509 CAIR is suing the US government for not rescuing Americans stuck in Yemen. I ask a few questions; (1) Yemen hasn't been a safe place for Americans in a long time. Why were they there? (2) If CAIR is leading these efforts does that mean these are muzzies who were there on some kind of "muzzie business"? and finally (3) Why is it the responsibility of the government (the military) to rescue people who do stupid things?


http://fxn.ws/1Gvlqw1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (wlDny)

510 Local officials across America are illegally grabbing people's guns and the rate this is happening has greatly increased. Is this more of Obama's under the radar fight for illegal gun control? And it sounds to me like someone with deep pockets needs to make an example case here and sue the living shit out of a few of these localities to get the rest's attention.


http://fxn.ws/1EeMRIP

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (wlDny)

511 "Don't you ever read the papers? Roderick Spode is the founder and head
of the Saviours of Britain, a Fascist organization better known as the
Black Shorts ."





Eulalie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (3UGBQ)

512 Will the Boston Bomber get the death penalty Fox asks? Given that these are Boston citizens I would say probably not. IIANM the defense asked for a change of venue early in the case. They should have moved it to the federal court in SC at Columbia. There would be no question that he would get the juice.


http://fxn.ws/1JuFGfN

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (wlDny)

513
I loved Ogg the Caveman. The voice of Cocoa Krispies!

(Actually it was the late great Ed Wynn, dontcha know!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 10, 2015 07:34 AM (St6BJ)

514 North Charleston has released the police dash cam video now. All it does is raise more questions.


http://fxn.ws/1yaRvXa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:34 AM (wlDny)

515 Obama can not meet with Netanyahu but he can meet with communist Raul Castro. What does that tell you?


http://bit.ly/1CB9Zvc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:34 AM (wlDny)

516 Holder opens a federal civil rights case in the Charleston shooting. This unequivocally proves that he is a racist asshole who is abusing the law. The law specifically calls for the cases to be opened ONLY when there is substantial evidence that local authorities are not pursuing the case. That is certainly not the case here and most likely he just wants to stir the pot with racism.


http://bit.ly/1IJWlL7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:34 AM (wlDny)

517 Woman in LA carries six juveniles to a fight, two being her sons. One individual who they were there to fight with pulls a gun and shoots one of the juveniles she brought. She will be considered for mother of the year by the NAACP. (joke).


http://bit.ly/1IPC4Uu

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:34 AM (wlDny)

518 Memories Pizza in Indiana reopened to a packed house.


http://bit.ly/1aPOIIB

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:35 AM (wlDny)

519 We have idiots running the school systems. Here is an example from NJ where the teacher got 3rd graders to write letters to a convicted murderer who the left has decided to champion because they are stupid.


http://bit.ly/1cgpX91

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:35 AM (wlDny)

520 The family of the man shot by the North Charleston cop have told Sharpton to stay away.


http://bit.ly/1EeSSFb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:35 AM (wlDny)

521 Hardcore leftist Lincoln Chaffee has announced he will run for President in 2016.


http://bit.ly/1EeV4N1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:35 AM (wlDny)

522 Idiot racist calls conservatives a "cancer" and blames them for the North Charleston shooting. It is past time to redraw his racially gerrymandered district since the Supremes have declared these unconstitutional.


http://bit.ly/1NYc8rA

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:36 AM (wlDny)

523 Well at least one challenger to McShitty in the primaries has arisen.


http://bit.ly/1H9Pg8v

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:36 AM (wlDny)

524 Sexual predators have been paid over half a million dollars in undeserved SS benefits.


The Social Security Administration improperly paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits to sexual predators involuntarily confined in Special Commitment Centers, according to a new audit from the agency's Inspector General.


But Baby Boomers are bankrupting the system.



http://bit.ly/1FFwPXa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:36 AM (wlDny)

525
Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1cgthkA

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:36 AM (wlDny)

526 That illegal (for the 3rd time) Net Neutrality farce will result in $11B in new taxes which guess who will pay.


http://bit.ly/1IyaUVp

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:37 AM (wlDny)

527 The Daily Deals


http://amzn.to/1z18mqq


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:37 AM (wlDny)

528 "North Charleston has released the police dash cam video now. All it does is raise more questions. "

Too few people understand the camera tricks Hollywood uses to produce a movie. Just turning on a camera isn't enough.

Wearing a helmet cam, or a body cam isn't enough.

If public opinion is against shooting people who attempt to flee arrest, what are the police going to do the next time someone tries to run.

Bing has several stories about people being shot attempting to flee. So lets turn local law enforcement into the TSA.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:38 AM (EYLR0)

529 That kind of morning again, eh?

All I got to say then is: Venn diagrams are to science as puns are to comedy. If you have no appreciation for them, there is something wrong with you.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 10, 2015 07:41 AM (Dj0WE)

530 528 Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:38 AM (EYLR0)


Obviously you are not familiar with the common guidelines for police use of deadly force.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:42 AM (wlDny)

531 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Here's the weekly Ziegfeld Girl, Lora Foster (perhaps a touch NSFW):

http://goo.gl/LQbeF6

Very little is known about her,except that she performed in the Follies of 1927.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 10, 2015 07:44 AM (zF6Iw)

532 "Obviously you are not familiar with the common guidelines for police use of deadly force. "

All I know is what I've read here in blog comments, and apparently it depends on how good your lawyer is.

I freely admit to knowing nothing about most anything.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:44 AM (EYLR0)

533 It's Friday, the COB must all be in Augusta watching golf?



What a beautiful time of the year. All my dogwoods and cherry trees are in bloom and the pollen was knocked down my the rain.



Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:45 AM (0FSuD)

534 "I freely admit to knowing nothing about most anything."

Is this not in many ways, the story of the Obama Presidency?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:46 AM (jhIxG)

535 533 What a beautiful time of the year. All my dogwoods and cherry trees are in bloom and the pollen was knocked down my the rain.
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:45 AM (0FSuD)


My favorite time of the year. But most of my blooms got knocked down by that late 25F night after they started blooming. My apple trees and cherry tree is blooming now though.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (wlDny)

536 I've felt like crap every morning this week but this is the worst. I guess I really do hab a code.

Posted by: freaked at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (JdEZJ)

537 "I freely admit to knowing nothing about most anything."

Is this not in many ways, the story of the Obama Presidency?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:46 AM (jhIxG)

-----------
Obama claims the opposite, claims to know everything about everything.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (EYLR0)

538 Clyburn represents Orangeburg, SC home of SC State, Strom Thrurman's Black daughter's college.


He is gerrymander in there to isolate all the Black votes. He'll die in the seat.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (0FSuD)

539 It only takes one juror to vote no ont he DP in the federal system, and its over. He'll get life. He is acting like such a little ahole in court, too. Rolling his eyes and smirking at victims. Hopefully, that behavior as it continues thru the penalty trial will convince any stealth jurors to change their mind and give him death.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (iQIUe)

540 "I really do hab a code."

You wanna node mitten?


(Very old commercial)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:49 AM (jhIxG)

541 Obama claims to know everything about everything and then orders a State Department flunky to stand in front of the cameras and say the President was a little mixed up and didn't say what he meant to say and what he meant to say was.....

and this is not a reflection on the president who is under a lot of stress trying to manage the conflagration that looks to soon consume 3/4 of the planet.

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 07:50 AM (EYLR0)

542 With the NRA convention starting, national attention is returning to gun rights.

We need Constitutional Carry in all 50 states.

This is no longer an academic exercise--it has real survival value in our Brave New Lefty World.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 10, 2015 07:50 AM (KtVta)

543 538 He is gerrymander in there to isolate all the Black votes. He'll die in the seat.


Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (0FSuD)


That was a "deal" worked out by the SC GOP with the NAACP. However, we now have a black Senator who was previously the rep for district 1. I would say it is time to gerrymander him out of minority majority districr, especially since the supremes have declared them "bad". And that case was actually brought by the NAACP who said it was a ploy to get more Republicans elected vs Democrats. (In AL I think).

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:51 AM (wlDny)

544 On the plus side my give a f' is nonexistent. If anyone crosses me today I will sneeze on them and then laugh.

Posted by: freaked at April 10, 2015 07:51 AM (JdEZJ)

545 At the end the only law that will count is the HOLY BIBLE. Nothing else. The End.

Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2015 07:52 AM (go5uR)

546 539
It only takes one juror to vote no ont he DP in the federal system, and
its over. He'll get life. He is acting like such a little ahole in
court, too. Rolling his eyes and smirking at victims. Hopefully, that
behavior as it continues thru the penalty trial will convince any
stealth jurors to change their mind and give him death.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 07:48 AM (iQIUe)


Remember, we are talking Boston here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:52 AM (wlDny)

547
They have no toilet paper, food, or medicines in Venezuela. But they subsidize gas to the point that to fill your tank for a year costs about a buck or less.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 07:53 AM (iQIUe)

548 They told me that with the AoSHQ Platinum membership, I would get morning threads.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:53 AM (jhIxG)

549 542
With the NRA convention starting, national attention is returning to gun rights.



We need Constitutional Carry in all 50 states.



This is no longer an academic exercise--it has real survival value in our Brave New Lefty World.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 10, 2015 07:50 AM (KtVta)

What we "need" is some of these gun rights groups to initiate a class action suit to stomp the hell out of local PDs who are illegally confiscating guns from citizens and refusing to give them back. See link above.

And because this jump-started nationwide I have a feeling that Obama/Holder are at the heart of this.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:54 AM (wlDny)

550 @543

It's an idea, but better the idiot you know than the one you don't know. He's got a shit load of Blacks in his district. I think they even take some out of Charleston? He so old an stupid. he really is a joke. Keep him.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:56 AM (0FSuD)

551 >>>>Just for fun-and-games, Liberia (in Africa) became a country in 1847 in an ultimately-doomed attempt to provide a safety valve. What if it had worked? What if the 3.2 million slaves on the 1850 US census had mostly shipped out?
.
.
.
.While that was an actual plan that was being worked on, it was never going to happen due to compensation. The slave owners were not going to give up their single source of income without a fight or extremely big $$$ in return, dollars the Federal Government did not have.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 10, 2015 07:57 AM (HP6cv)

552 548
They told me that with the AoSHQ Platinum membership, I would get morning threads.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 07:53 AM (jhIxG)

Write Pixy for a full refund

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 07:57 AM (0FSuD)

553 Sooo, I'm watching an episode of Sam and Cat with my kids before getting ready for school. It's about a guy who gets their favorite soda banned because it has too much sugar. They figure out the formula and make a bootleg version and sell it. Then, they firmly rebuke him at the end of the episode for punishing everyone for the irresponsibility of a few. I'm thinking of setting this thing on a loop so my kids can memorize the ending.

Posted by: no good deed at April 10, 2015 08:00 AM (ZKGnj)

554
How many American blacks today give it all up and go live in Africa? None that I know of.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 08:00 AM (iQIUe)

555 So...no ONT until after I go to sleep, and no morning thread when I get up. I want my Platinum Membership dues back!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 10, 2015 08:01 AM (2Ojst)

556 554


How many American blacks today give it all up and go live in Africa? None that I know of.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 08:00 AM (iQIUe)

The African blacks would never take them. Based on what I saw in Africa they can not stand American blacks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 08:01 AM (wlDny)

557 For a bunch of 'bright' folks, to admit being confused by the big words of two very old white guys.

No, they ain't bright. And the world was given further proof a bunch of chumps are running the show and thus the US' prestige upon the global stage is again diminished.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 08:02 AM (VHZLH)

558 The African blacks would never take them. Based on what I saw in Africa they can not stand American blacks.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 08:01 AM (wlDny)

True dat

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 08:02 AM (0FSuD)

559 Read that the NRA did not invite Paul or Christie.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 10, 2015 08:04 AM (0Sc56)

560 Eulalie


Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 10, 2015 07:33 AM (3UGBQ)
============================

Arrrgggghhhh!

Posted by: Roderick Spode at April 10, 2015 08:05 AM (FCsIb)

561 @559

Why would they? Ever been to an NRA convention? I went to the one they had in Charlotte. Pretty wild. I mean they have vendors everywhere.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 08:05 AM (0FSuD)

562 The African blacks would never take them. Based on what I saw in Africa they can not stand American blacks.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 08:01 AM (wlDny)

Our beloved Chique D'Afrique isn't real keen on them either, from what I've gathered.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 10, 2015 08:05 AM (2Ojst)

563 Remember, we are talking Boston here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 07:52 AM (wlDny)


Normally I would agree with you, Vic - after all, this is the state whose governor called 9/11 "a failure of understanding" - but the Marathon is one of those Beautiful People Boston events; sure, anyone can join in, but the vast majority of runners tend to be slim, white, PC-addled leftists. Tsarnaev didn't do anything praisworthy, like shoot up a Tea Party event; he was gauche enough to attack an event Our Betters use as a secular holy day.

He committed a crime against the ruling elite, which I why I think a DP is likely. Otherwise, he'd be the new Mumia.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 10, 2015 08:06 AM (zF6Iw)

564 $8.50 bag o' chips and hair clip shoplifter, and the Giant store shuts down and calls in the Baltimore SWAT teams.

$8.50 cost effective business and crime deterrent.

Why not military tanks on scene...

Posted by: by hook or by crook BHO progress at April 10, 2015 08:06 AM (vNlkp)

565 >>>>a bunch of chumps are running the
show<<<<

Psimpering harf wits.


Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at April 10, 2015 08:08 AM (MkQKr)

566 Any chance we could GoFundMe an early retirement for TFG? Maybe save civilization....

Posted by: MTF at April 10, 2015 08:08 AM (FCsIb)

567 Finding HMS Hood
https://youtu.be/m9aM1f8nVYc

Finding HMS Ark Royal
https://youtu.be/g5ibRR0h7Yo

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 08:09 AM (VHZLH)

568 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 10, 2015 08:09 AM (KtVta)

569 Mount Prospect Illinois

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150402/news/150409622/

"After her arrest, Gutierrez admitted she had been selling cocaine for seven years. . ."

"Prosecutors dismissed charges against select defendants citing concerns about the officers' credibility"

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 08:09 AM (EYLR0)

570 It only takes one juror to vote no ont he DP in the federal system, and
its over.

*************

In every other system, too. Except UVA fraternities. 'Least, that's what I heard.

Posted by: Rolling Stone at April 10, 2015 08:11 AM (yxw0r)

571 564
$8.50 bag o' chips and hair clip shoplifter, and the Giant store shuts down and calls in the Baltimore SWAT teams.



$8.50 cost effective business and crime deterrent.



Why not military tanks on scene...

Posted by: by hook or by crook BHO progress at April 10, 2015 08:06 AM (vNlkp)

You didn't read the details close enough. The Giant store did not call the SWAT team. The local cop called them due to how the crazy woman tried to escape. She climbed up into the hanging ceiling and was trying to hide up there.

The cop called the SWAT team to help get her down because they were worried she would bring the whole ceiling down.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 10, 2015 08:11 AM (wlDny)

572 Anybody sent out a search party for the morning thread yet? Psychics with dogs? Dog psychics?

Posted by: Bigby's Fingerprints at April 10, 2015 08:12 AM (3ZtZW)

573 Hey, Anna, have you been reading Erik Larson's Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania? Sounds like it would be up your alley.

I've got a copy, but just haven't got up the energy to start it yet.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 10, 2015 08:12 AM (zF6Iw)

574 I see Drudge is the source of half of the traffic the AP site receives over the course of a year. Without Drudge, AP would be a small site.

Posted by: MTF at April 10, 2015 08:12 AM (FCsIb)

575 @574

Daily Mail said Drudge sends them over half their hits.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 08:14 AM (0FSuD)

576 Crain's Chicago Business

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kqk7cts

How Chicago's wealthiest neighborhoods tipped election to Emanuel.

Isn't this the true story of the democrat party, the party of the rich and famous?

Posted by: Claytun Oskgarde at April 10, 2015 08:15 AM (EYLR0)

577 test

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2015 08:16 AM (F2IAQ)

578 @576


That does not surprise me. Chicago is one of the most racist cities in the country. Why do Blacks go to Atlanta? Because in Atlanta they run the place and everyone sort of gets along.


Chicago? No chance.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2015 08:17 AM (0FSuD)

579 Never let a good thread crisis go to waste.

Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at April 10, 2015 08:18 AM (cIoI4)

580 In every other system, too. Except UVA fraternities. 'Least, that's what I heard.
Posted by: Rolling Stone at April 10, 2015 08:11 AM (yxw0r)

In Calif they can retry the penalty trial if they dont get a death verdict. I've seen some horrendous cases in Tx come back with life b/c one juror lied and said they cd impose the death penalty if warranted but had no intention to do so. Case I'm thinking of was a prisoner who committed murder in Missouri and then escaped heading for the border. In TX he stopped and murdered an entire family including the pregnant mother.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 10, 2015 08:20 AM (iQIUe)

581 Sitting in the surgical waiting room. My aunt just went into surgery. Send up a small prayer.

Posted by: mpfs at April 10, 2015 08:20 AM (Ty1KG)

582 571 Vic, I read it all. Needles were found in her purse, and the store security freak out, she "escapes" climbing into the ceiling. As per fearing the ceiling collapse from one person, that would more likely result given more men climbing up to find her. The story didn't relay her weight, but adding more police adds that much more stress on the ceiling structurally.

Of course the store manager has the responsibility to get her out of the premises.

You may as well admit that for $8.50, the store lost a lot more over her stolen chips and hair clips -- that apprehension for shoplifting needs a better approach than what was taken by management over the principle of theft.

The threat to society, imho, is in today's police response to a misdemeanor call. She wasn't armed, yet police protocol brought in the SWAT.

So -- mountain out of a molehill.

Posted by: by hook or by crook BHO progress at April 10, 2015 08:21 AM (vNlkp)

583 new one

Posted by: m at April 10, 2015 08:22 AM (WIUGG)

584 Not seen that book MPPPP, thanks for the recommendation. Looking at it on Amazon and it does sound interesting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 10, 2015 08:22 AM (VHZLH)

585 "$8.50 cost effective business and crime deterrent. '

As I said yesterday, this is our particular bag of crazy goings on.
And Vic is right.
Woman in false overhead creates a danger for any individuals potentially under her if the false ceiling collapses down on them.
Store can not remain open due to potential liability.
SWAT has assets to allow remote location of individual.
It actually made sense to do it this way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 10, 2015 08:25 AM (jhIxG)

586 Of LATE, Progressive Marxism:

I think that what we are constantly doing is looking for opportunities to advance the agenda that I talked about back in 2007 and 2008. And where Republicans are not willing to work with us, we will do it administratively or we will convene the private sector. By hook or by crook, we're going to make sure [of] that ....

-- Pres. B.H.Obama interviewed by Sam Stein, Huffington Post, 21 March 2015.

Given Boehner, McCain et. al, as if Republicans are not willingly at work by hook 'n crook progress.

Posted by: by hook or by crook BHO progress at April 10, 2015 08:26 AM (vNlkp)

587 585 , 582.

Posted by: by hook or by crook BHO progress at April 10, 2015 08:28 AM (vNlkp)

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