Greta Van Sustern: Sony Was "Stupid" and "Idiots" to Make NK Movie; Should Have Known They'd Be Hacked, Threatened with 9/11-Style Terrorist Attacks

Really?

How #stupid- #Sony could have made a fictional movie but instead insults unstable country w/nuclear weapons.Sony= #idiots
— Greta Van Susteren (@greta) December 17, 2014

anyone who has been to NK knows how dangerous it is and would not have been so stupid to make that movie;
— Greta Van Susteren (@greta) December 17, 2014

Several points:

North Korea has never engaged in this sort of retaliation before, and they've been similarly provoked. The awful James Bond movie Die Another Day featured North Korea as a villain, and had Bond blowing up half of a North Korean brigade; Team America: World Police featured a hilarious parody of Kim Jong-il, and showed him being killed ("assassinated," I gues) at the end.

Also, when he died, the creature living inside of him -- an alien parasite, maybe, or a mutant demi-urge taking the form of an insect -- escaped. That creature inside him, representing his soul, was a cockroach.

So why would Sony know that they shouldn't make this movie?

Greta Van Sustern is just wrong here in so many ways. Her "solution" to terrorism is just to capitulate pre-emptively to potential terrorists -- Sony and all other media companies should just figure out which Evil Basket-Case Tyrannical States are willing to use terrorism as part of their PR apparatus, and make sure they never mock such countries.

So... We're not supposed to mock the most vicious regimes which are most deserving of mockery. If we self-censor, then we won't permit North Korean terrorists to censor us, I guess.

In a way I guess that's true, but in all important ways it's wrong.

It seems to me Van Sustern is demonstrating one of the most common, and stupidest, sorts of human behavior here.

Whenever a terrible setback befalls someone -- paralysis, cancer, rape, cyberterrorism by basket-case states run by midget maniacs -- human beings have a remarkably annoying, and sometimes offensive, need to moralize about the tragedy, and begin positing all the ways in which this horrific event could have been avoided.

Though usually not as overt as in Van Sustern's formulation, the suggestion is usually present: This tragedy was eminently avoidable, and the fact that it was not avoided suggests a defect, whether intellectual, moral, or characterological, on the part of the victim.

I think people do this partly due to their basic survival programming: Learn from the setbacks of others. Postulate methods of avoiding similar tragedies.

I also think they do it partly to reassure themselves so that they're not unduly frightened: People don't like accepting the fact that many dangers are very unpredictable and hence impossible, or nearly impossible, to avoid, so they are overly fond of claiming that each and every tragedy that occurs in life was eminently foreseeable and thus eminently avoidable.

It's kind of a psychological knock-on-wood reassurance.

I don't think this is true in many cases. I do not think it was so "obvious" as Van Sustern says that North Korea would of course resort to an entirely unprecedented and never-once predicted or threatened form attack.

If this was so obvious, I'm sure Ms. Van Sustern can quote herself warning of the attack's inevitability...? Or cite someone she read making that warning?

Even if that warning had come (it hadn't, but if it had), then she's just saying "We should give in to bullies and censors and terrorists because otherwise they'll make trouble."

And all this just so she call call them "idiots" and "stupid."

This is of course the really basic thing about human behavior: Humans love to discover new ways in which they are Superior to new people they had previously not realized they were superior to at all.

Somewhere in Van Sustern is a hungry ego, impatiently crying out to be fed, as there is in all of us; she sees here an opportunity to feed the crying beast, and seizes upon it.

If Van Sustern thinks it's "stupid" to provoke terrorists and bullies and censors, she should quit her job at Fox immediately, because of course Fox takes a less charitable view of ISIS, Islamofascists generally, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and all the various leftwing soft-fascism organizations than any other news company.

Is she so "stupid" to put her own safety and privacy at risk by antagonizing these people?

I guess so.

The Mewlings of Cowards: Too often I see cowardice being credited as "wisdom."

Risk-taking is good. I don't love Seth Rogen all that much, but mocking a tyrant is a good thing, even if it's a risky thing.

Perhaps Rogen was foolish to not realize it was risky.

Perhaps. But I don't know that. Why should I assume he didn't realize this was risky? Why should I assume he's stupid?

People tend to fear bravery -- to the extent they'll mock it, and the person exhibiting bravery, when he stumbles.

I hate this tendency our safe modern society has of mocking bravery and risk-taking.

"Well those idiots didn't know the safe play."

That's the sort of thing a boring, vanilla, will-never-impact-the-world coward tells himself about risk-taking people to make himself feel better about his own safe, soft decisions.

Risk-taking people usually do in fact know the risks.

They also know "the safe play" that the softer-bodied people are always demanding everyone take.

They just choose not to make the safe play. They choose, knowingly, the risky play.

I think it is toxic for society -- a poison that saps at our vitality-- for the Safe Play People's voices to be so loud, and so numerous, while so few people actually stick up for a bit of riskiness and danger.

Hey, Safe Play People: I've got news for you. No one ever accomplished anything big by sticking to the Safe Play.

So keep on hectoring and picking at anyone who dares to step out of line, if that makes you feel better about your own choices.

The people taking risks will just have to content themselves with mattering and living lives full of color and steel.

Posted by: Ace at 02:01 PM

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1 Maybe we shouldn't allow terrorists to be talked about here.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2014 02:03 PM (kxSsB)

2
Yeah, we never ever ever dared to make a movie mocking or lambasting the USSR. They had nukes, ya know, so we wouldn't have been so stupid as to mock them, would we? Or China, either.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at December 18, 2014 02:03 PM (PEgKF)

3 First?

Posted by: loneduck at December 18, 2014 02:03 PM (zS9LP)

4 Nope...

Posted by: loneduck at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (zS9LP)

5 "...but instead insults unstable country w/nuclear weapon."

Think, think, think, has Hollywood ever made a movie that mocks the US, Russia, India or Pakistan?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (ABcz/)

6 Don't forget "Olympus Has Fallen", though that was supposedly a team of disavowed NK agents trying to start WW3. But whatever.

Kimchee-kimchay...

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (GQ8sn)

7 It's a little hard to take an enemy seriously that can't even feed it's population.

Now the USSR, THAT was an enemy. A full nuclear arsenal, tanks, air force. Those were people you probably didn't want to screw around with.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:05 PM (AC0lD)

8 What we need are MORE movies making fun of NK, not fewer.

Of course, Hollywood being full of craven PC types, is never going to feature NK as the "baddies" in a film again.

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2014 02:05 PM (PwGfd)

9 New Red Dawn gave into pressure to make bad guys Norks instead of Chinese.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2014 02:05 PM (kxSsB)

10 Team America: World Police featured a hilarious parody of Kim Jong-il, and showed him being killed ("assassinated," I gues) at the end.

Also, when he died, the creature living inside of him -- an alien parasite, maybe, or a mutant demi-urge taking the form of an insect -- escaped. That creature inside him, representing his soul, was a cockroach.

Kim Jong Il wasn't assassinated. He was explicitly an Zypod alien from planet Gyron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udS6losK7Ts

Posted by: Spottswoode at December 18, 2014 02:05 PM (lN8KC)

11 And ofcourse the Red Dawn remake which was originally China as the villain, but then suddenly changed to North Korea at the last minute.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (GQ8sn)

12 Hi, Greta. See you soon.

Posted by: Xenu at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (MMC8r)

13 What's stupid is believing that N. Korea would have done squat had the movie been released.

But I am enjoying watching the Hollywood bullies showing their true cowardly colors.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (g1DWB)

14 I agree with Greta...

The difference between those prior movies, and this one, is who is in charge of N. Korea.

Kim Jong Il understood the limits of his power... as he had been in power for decades... through wars and famine...

Un? he's a petulant child,.. and HIS reaction was, IMO, predictable.

Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (f0pWu)

15 Also, just heard on Fox that apparently some one(s) from State Dept. pre-screened the movie a while ago and gave Sony the thumbs up?

First, didn't know we did this.
Second, why is the WH and State so quiet now if they thought it was peachy?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (ABcz/)

16 This is a ridiculous but inevitable result of the PC culture.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (bRPUY)

17 I wonder if NK would have been so "gutsy" with its terrorist threats, if, you know, someone ELSE was in the White House.

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (PwGfd)

18 Also Olympus Has Fallen ace.(though they were " rogue" or something)

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (v5UtH)

19 Anyone who eats at Taco Bell knows how diarrhea-inducing it is and would not have been so stupid to as to drunkenly hit the drive-thru at 3AM.

Posted by: Greta Van Sustern at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (WDCYi)

20 but instead insults unstable country w/nuclear weapon."

Isn't it an insult to NK to call then "unstable"?

If they didn't have nuclear weapons, can we insult them then?

Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (8ikIW)

21 Why, this sounds an awful lot like victim blaming, there, Greta.

If only Sony hadn't dressed like the free market skank she is, this never would have happened.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (lZ1M5)

22 @2 Yeah, we never ever ever dared to make a movie mocking or lambasting the USSR. They had nukes, ya know, so we wouldn't have been so stupid as to mock them, would we? Or China, either.
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Mocking China is already forbidden. You'll lose access to one of the biggest foreign markets.

As for the Soviets, there was a general understanding back then that you didn't try this kind of nonsense. Tit for tat, and all that. If the Soviets had ever tried to bomb a movie theater for some reason, then the US would have retaliated in kind. But assuming that the North Korean government actually did attempt to carry out the threatened attack, there's a definite sense that anything that they did would be ignored no matter how provocative.

Posted by: junior at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (UWFpX)

23 Sony should become a nuclear power then tell NK to eff off.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (kxSsB)

24 15
Also, just heard on Fox that apparently some one(s) from State Dept.
pre-screened the movie a while ago and gave Sony the thumbs up?
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Who the hell gives the US State Dept veto power over their movies?

WTF??

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2014 02:08 PM (PwGfd)

25 >>And ofcourse the Red Dawn remake which was originally China as the
villain, but then suddenly changed to North Korea at the last minute.

IIRC that was more of a monetary decision - they didn't want to turn off viewers in China. Think this has come up w/WWII movies and concern over box office in Japan.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:08 PM (ABcz/)

26 Says the mildly deformed Scientologist.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:08 PM (XzRw1)

27 And it's nice to know that the sentiment that mocking is the ultimate form of torture - which has protected Obama for his entire political career - is now extended to America's enemies.

Because the world ends when you show a ceramic Prophet Mohammad screwing a sheep named Aisha and claiming it was alright because the sheep was 9 years old.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:08 PM (AC0lD)

28 @7 It's a little hard to take an enemy seriously that can't even feed it's population.

Now the USSR, THAT was an enemy. A full nuclear arsenal, tanks, air force. Those were people you probably didn't want to screw around with.
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That, incidentally, also couldn't feed its population. We were selling the Soviets grain in exchange for gold during the Cold War because the Soviets couldn't produce enough for themselves.

Posted by: junior at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (UWFpX)

29
I'm OUTRAGED that the film mocking N Korea was cancelled. We need to stiffen our spines and let....

.... what did you say?..... Oh.....The guy who made the Youtube video mocking Islam??? THAT fcuker needs to spend life in prison.

Posted by: Hollywood Douchebags at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (NaV4z)

30 The 1st Amendment is dead if foreign governments have veto power over us.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (v5UtH)

31 After which attack will the Lunatic Left finally learn that being civil to your enemies doesn't work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (0HooB)

32 As for the Soviets, there was a general understanding back then that you didn't try this kind of nonsense. Tit for tat, and all that. If the Soviets had ever tried to bomb a movie theater for some reason, then the US would have retaliated in kind.

That's ridiculous.

The USSR wouldn't bomb theaters because they're adults . They don't have child-like ego problems like NK has.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (GQ8sn)

33 Why the hate. It worked for me.

Oh, wait, never mind

Posted by: Neville Chamberland at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (0FSuD)

34 Second, why is the WH and State so quiet now if they thought it was peachy?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (ABcz

Um... Something went wrong. Therefore, they cut the mooring lines and headed for the horizon.

A long time ago, someone said that barbarians are only loyal while your luck holds. Sony's luck just ran out. Seeyabye!

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (lZ1M5)

35 I guess freedom of speech and expression is a thing of the past? Well now the country will be like one large college campus with only group thought allowed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (Zmw74)

36 I tempting as it may be, I don't even call for the censoring of idiots like Greta.
In fact, I think it's even better to let their ignorance beacon shine brightly.

*not sure ignorance is the right word there, because it may just be willful stupidity.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (At6lQ)

37 This tragedy was eminently avoidable, and the fact that it was not avoided suggests a defect, whether intellectual, moral, or characterological, on the part of the victim.

Friends of mine in the Bay Area do this to the nth degree. Someone gets colon cancer? They cluck their tongues, say "He ate a lot of red meat," and nod knowingly at each other.

Drives me wild.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (oKE6c)

38 30 The 1st Amendment is dead if foreign governments have veto power over us.

_____________________
McCain-Feingold tried to kill me first.

Posted by: 1st amendment at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (WNERA)

39 But apparently it's still OK to make movies depicting US soldiers abusing Muslims despite this inflaming "the Muslim street" and being used for terrorist recruitment. Especially that Brian DePalma flick w/the graphic rape scene.

I can't keep it straight - who, again, is it OK to offend?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (ABcz/)

40 Greta is foolish on this.

And of a lighter note, someone comes up with good ins regarding NK, Sony and communism:

http://theothermccain.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (Dj3AB)

41 Did the Soviet Union threaten to bomb the US after DR Stangelove? Or was the US Air Force?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (Zmw74)

42 The Bond franchise switched to a non aligned bad guy (SPECTRE) rather than use the Soviets.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (v5UtH)

43
Friends of mine in the Bay Area do this to the nth degree. Someone gets colon cancer? They cluck their tongues, say "He ate a lot of red meat," and nod knowingly at each other.

What do they say about AIDS?

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (MMC8r)

44
>>>Sony should become a nuclear power then tell NK to eff off.

Tell us more about these corporate nuclear powers.

Posted by: The EEEEVIL Koch Brothers at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (WDCYi)

45 Mocking China is already forbidden. You'll lose access to one of the biggest foreign markets.
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I think it probably depends on how the mockery is done, but OK, that's a business decision. . .you don't want to antagonize the paying customers.

But I'm kind of guessing this particular movie wasn't going to go much "box office" in North Korea.

Needless to say, there is also a bit of a difference between boycotting a movie in your own country, and threatening terrorist attacks on any theater in the world that shows a given movie!

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (PwGfd)

46 What do they say about AIDS?

"Well, he must have mumblemumblemuble...."

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (GQ8sn)

47 Look Gerta, about that face lift. OK, maybe we went a little too deep and took out some of your brains, but hey, statute of limitations is over.

Stupid.

Posted by: Your local Plastic Surgeon at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (0FSuD)

48 Greta and Shep sitting in a Tree
K. I S. S. I. N. G.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (Zmw74)

49 Inherent stupidity of the news media. They really don't know anything about anything and for the most part, are just spouting off.

Posted by: duke at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (ChY2Q)

50 >>What do they say about AIDS?

Ate a lot of white meat.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (g1DWB)

51 I can't keep it straight - who, again, is it OK to offend?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:10 PM (ABcz/)

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Tosses Lizzy the "Melanin Content Gradient Rating Scale"

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (NaV4z)

52 Guess we have to fall back on Nazis or white Christian conservatives as villains.

Posted by: ejo at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (rsGj7)

53 I can't keep it straight - who, again, is it OK to offend?

Posted by: Lizzy

Primarily, white males. Bonus if they are in the Tea Party.

And of course, people from the south. Damn hillbillies!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (8ikIW)

54 If I were President, I'd find whoever represents North Korea at the UN, the day after Sony shutters Sony Pictures.

I'd tell him 'Hey, thanks. Anything that takes Hollywood down a peg can't be all bad. But if you do it again there won't be a Pyongyang to go home to.'

Posted by: JEM at December 18, 2014 02:12 PM (o+SC1)

55 Greta and Shep sitting in a Tree
K. I S. S. I. N. G.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (Zmw74)

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yeah.... right.... like Shep is gonna kiss a girl.

*rolleyes*

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (NaV4z)

56 I guess Schindler's List was an insult to the Nazis?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (Zmw74)

57 >>> agree with Greta...

The difference between those prior movies, and this one, is who is in charge of N. Korea.

Kim Jong Il understood the limits of his power... as he had been in power for decades... through wars and famine...

Un? he's a petulant child,.. and HIS reaction was, IMO, predictable.

...

and yet you didn't predict it.

"Predicting" an event cannot be looking at a past event which has already happened and saying "That was predictable."

To prove it's predictable, one actually has to predict it.

Pre -- before
Dict -- say

Posted by: ace at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (E+pqw)

58
>>>Tosses Lizzy the "Melanin Content Gradient Rating Scale"

H8TER!

Posted by: Albinos at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (WDCYi)

59 The make a dessert and call it Peace.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (rwI+c)

60 It's all those Sno-billies, the Palins, fault

Posted by: Carol Costello at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (W6iIX)

61 I can't keep it straight - who, again, is it OK to offend?

WASP males.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (0HooB)

62 So can we resume ripping on Kimberlin?

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (mk9aG)

63 Did Castro threaten to bomb the USA after that pervert Woody Allen made Bananas?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (Zmw74)

64 @2 Yeah, we never ever ever dared to make a movie mocking or lambasting
the USSR. They had nukes, ya know, so we wouldn't have been so stupid as
to mock them, would we? Or China, either.

I suspect that that wasn't Hollywood's fear of the USSR so much as its ideological sympathy with it. For example, recall that we now know the Hollywood Ten were all straight-up no shit Communists.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (oKE6c)

65 @45 I think it probably depends on how the mockery is done, but OK, that's a business decision. . .you don't want to antagonize the paying customers.
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Not really. China only allows in a limited number of foreign films each year. And Beijing is very touchy about any sort of mockery. So it's a quick way to make sure that your film never ends up in a theater over there.

And it gets even worse. If you haven't already, you should look up the extra scenes that were added to the Chinese version of Iron Man 3.

Posted by: junior at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (UWFpX)

66
So Teh Ewok didn't like the movie......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2014 02:14 PM (TIIx5)

67 It's kind of a psychological knock-on-wood reassurance.

If I don't smoke, I won't get lung cancer.

If I eat right, I won't have a heart attack.

If I wear my seat belt, I won't be in an accident.

It's superstition and I say this as a very superstitious person.

Which isn't to say that eating right and wearing your seat belt and not smoking are bad things. Not at all. But they aren't magic wards either.

If I don't bother him while he's drinking, he won't throw anything at me.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

68 This is how Sony executives viewed themselves a couple weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odd8Zdhuj9o#t=98

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2014 02:14 PM (g1DWB)

69 54 If I were President, I'd find whoever represents North Korea at the UN, the day after Sony shutters Sony Pictures.

North Korea isn't in the UN, IIRC.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:14 PM (oKE6c)

70 Hilarious.

Folks in this country used to have cojones and spines. Now, not so much.

This is the direct result of participation trophies and such.

If you believe in free speech, then perhaps you should engage in such. Otherwise, go hide under the bed until the boogey man is gone.

Buncha wieners, the all of 'em.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (g+qqc)

71 Greta and Shep sitting in a Tree
K. I S. S. I. N. G.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (Zmw74)

Ewww! She has cooties!

Posted by: Shepard Smith at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (lN8KC)

72 I kind of agree with Greta here, or at least I think she has a point.

Few thoughts:

- Could the DPRK have done anything in response to Die Another Day or Team America? Were their hacking capabilities up to snuff?

- There seems to be a substantive difference between a puppet Kim Jong-Il turning into a cockroach and a live stand-in of Kim Jong-Un being blown up. Maybe esp. so from the cultural perspective of the DPRK (i.e. they don't understand that Rogin/Franco are just a bunch of chucklehead stoners not to be taken seriously).

- Is the response this time (as opposed to no response in the case of the aforementioned movies) a consequence of shifting internal power dynamic in the DPRK? Maybe...the pro-Kim faction worrying about the threat from the anti-Kim faction?

-I think it is not for nothing that, during the Cold War, James Bond did not go after Smersh (as he did in the novels), but rather Spectre. In fact, the Soviets were often being menaced by the same bad guys that Bond was pursuing.

-None of this excuses the DPRK regime. And let's be honest, this is far from its worst crime.

Posted by: jpcuva78 at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (n/JT6)

73 It is not the country of North Korea that is the problem. It is the childish petulant leader that is the problem.

He is a lot like Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and Nikki Minaj (sp?) at their flakiest.

Posted by: rd at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (J7NUM)

74 like awarding medals in the armed services for "restraint".

Posted by: Aquaviva at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (50YB2)

75 The Japanese are also not happy with certain scenes in the new Angelina Jolie directed movie.Asians are more sensitive to these kinds of things.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (v5UtH)

76 This is how Sony executives viewed themselves a couple weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odd8Zdhuj9o#t=98

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2014 02:14 PM (g1DWB)

End credit dance scene always make me crack up.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (GQ8sn)

77 I think actually any non leftists are ok to offend-The leftists are very tolerant-they hate you even though you might be a Catholic and not a WASP

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (Dj3AB)

78 On WTOP this morning, (local DC news radio station), a woman interviewee said, "I think it is good to cancel the showing of the movie. What if North Korea made a movie that showed President Obama in a bad light." All the other comments also approved of cancelling the movie. (Except for one quip about Ishtar.)

Much of the country is not made of tough fiber any more.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (l3vZN)

79 According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters. We are all so very much screwed.

Posted by: Dbot1800 at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (H0k3f)

80 If I exercise regularly, I won't have a heart attarglbhlargleack...

*thud*

Posted by: Jim Fixx at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (2Ojst)

81 To be fair, I think Greta is confusing Kim Jong-un with Alec Baldwin.

That motherf*cker is crazy!

Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (UzPAd)

82 To be fair, I think Greta is confusing Kim Jong-un with Alec Baldwin.

Alec Baldwin?

F.A.G.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (GQ8sn)

83 Another thought ...

I think this movie was esp. short-sighted considering that it was ultimately green-lit by a Japanese-owned company. I could see Warner Bros. or Paramount stumbling into this clusterfark more easily than Sony, which should know that the regional political situation is ... um ... tense.

Posted by: jpcuva78 at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (n/JT6)

84 Posted by: jpcuva78 at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (n/JT6)

Your fucking kidding right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (Zmw74)

85 The Japanese are also not happy with certain scenes in the new Angelina Jolie directed movie.Asians are more sensitive to these kinds of things.
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (v5UtH)

People don't like being reminded that they used to torture and murder POWs.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (lZ1M5)

86 The Japanese are also not happy with certain scenes in the new Angelina Jolie directed movie.Asians are more sensitive to these kinds of things.
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (v5UtH)

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o_O

.... uppity Orientals.....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (NaV4z)

87 I like Greta a lot but always remember in the back of my mind that she is a Scientologist, a Democrat and a close friend and supporter of Hillary.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (NHtMs)

88 "Eat meat and die."

Posted by: Whole Foods shopper Vvegan bumper stickerist at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (Dj3AB)

89 Greta? She who believes OJ is innocent?

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (yxw0r)

90 People don't like being reminded that they used to torture and murder POWs.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (lZ1M5)

To fucking bad. My father fought in the Pacific

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (Zmw74)

91 Team America: World Police featured a hilarious parody of Kim Jong-il, and showed him being killed ("assassinated," I gues) at the end. Also, when he died, the creature living inside of him -- an alien parasite, maybe, or a mutant demi-urge taking the form of an insect -- escaped. That creature inside him, representing his soul, was a cockroach.

DUDE? How about a warning about spoilers next time?

Posted by: Eric at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (t8ISX)

92 Alec Baldwin?

F.A.G.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (GQ8sn)

The Film Actors Guild...are pussies.

Posted by: Gary Johnston at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (2Ojst)

93

According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters. We are all so very much screwed.

Oooh, that makes me mad.

*shoots Kim Jung Un in face*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (NtzGn)

94 Posted by: jpcuva78 at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (n/JT6)

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ummm..... no.

Put me down in the "its a fcuking movie.... get over your self already" camp....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (NaV4z)

95 This is the direct result of participation trophies and such.

My mom keeps a shelf in her basement to display all of mine. Get off your high horse brute.

Posted by: Shep at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (XzRw1)

96 People don't like being reminded that they used to torture and murder POWs.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (lZ1M5)

you are talking about the Norks and Chinese in 1950-53 right?

Posted by: Arlen Specter at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (W6iIX)

97 Um... Something went wrong. Therefore, they cut the mooring lines and headed for the horizon.

Yep, S.O.P. for the WH.
But they also reported that the WH said something lame like the US doesn't get involved in free speech/business issues or somesuch, which didn't even pass the smell test. If a domestic group, say ELF or PETA, threatened to bomb movie theaters over a film they didn't like the FBI would be ALL OVER it. So why the lame response when it's a foreign government threatening a 9/11 style attack - which is essentially an act of war??

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (ABcz/)

98
Meanwhile personal information about employees and stars, financial data and not having Denzel Washington star in movies because he's black kind a takes as back seat.

Posted by: YIKES! still auto banned at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (t8ZX3)

99 My hindsight is 20-20 too but I don't have a TV show.
My white privilege must be broken.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (WNERA)

100 Unlike the Germans the Japanese war crimes were largely unpunished and un apologized for.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (v5UtH)

101

Dear Greta,

Where do we draw the line?

Cartoons?
Books?
Twitter?
Facebook?
Voice?
Movies, ah, okay. Movies.

Signed,
...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (IXrOn)

102

I'm OUTRAGED that the film mocking N Korea was cancelled. We need to stiffen our spines and let....

.... what did you say?..... Oh.....The guy who made the Youtube video mocking Islam??? THAT fcuker needs to spend life in prison.

Posted by: Hollywood Douchebags at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (NaV4z)

------------------------------------

What difference, at this point, does it make?1!1/1/1!?1!?!??

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (HSmrB)

103
o_O

.... uppity Orientals.....

Posted by: fixerupper

Dang Nips.

Posted by: "Chesty" Puller at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (/Ho8c)

104 Reward something and you get more of it. Now that Muslims and Communists have shown how the "Heckler's Veto" works, expect it to start being applied much more broadly. It is now reasonable to expect that Occupy-type loons will start threatening violence against retailers that sell Koch-manufactured products.

Posted by: MountainBevo at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (KvQ9S)

105 According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters.

Ummmm....how? No theater is showing it, except for that one in Texas that was going to press on and show "The Interview" but then forced not to.

TA:WP on cable? VOD? Is Paramount completely pulling it from their inventory?

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (GQ8sn)

106 I think people do this partly due to their basic survival programming:

Learn from the setbacks of others.

Appeasement never works.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (BPT9g)

107 Unlike the Germans the Japanese war crimes were largely unpunished and un apologized for.
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:20 PM (v5UtH)

Yeah not from where I'm hanging

Posted by: TOJO at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (Zmw74)

108 88 "Eat meat and die."
Posted by: Whole Foods shopper Vvegan bumper stickerist at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (Dj3AB)

You can have daily broccoli-tofu colonics, but you're still going to die.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (2Ojst)

109 I usually save my, "That's what you get!"s for rodeo clowns and kids on YouTube obsessed with doing standing back flips.

Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (MNq6o)

110 Eh, even in Die Another Day, the nork at the end turned out to be rogue dude just trying to please his military father who disavows his actions.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (JjJUC)

111 This movie will leak out on the internet very soon I predict

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (Zmw74)

112 BTW has it occurred to anyone that this whole thing is a proxy attack by the NORKs on Japan or that this would never happen in a million years under Reagan because he would make them shit their pants?

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (NHtMs)

113 One problem corporate Sony has is they are a Japanese company. Even though the movie is Hollywood, home office is not.

They may very well have been pressured by the home government to kill this thing before Lil Kim tried to lob a scud across the sea.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (X+nFp)

114 Greta, you know what's really stupid? Scientology.

Posted by: Timon at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (1aUjs)

115 People and companies have been caving to hackers for years, but it almost never gets publicized. Hacking victims quietly pay ransoms everyday to computer vandals. We really need to get serious about fixing the security problems with the internet. One of the first steps should be taking all those SCADA controllers off the internet and putting them on private lines.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (mk9aG)

116 you are talking about the Norks and Chinese in 1950-53 right?
Posted by: Arlen Specter at December 18, 2014 02:19 PM (W6iIX)

In this case, no, but your point stands. Throw in the Vietnamese as well.

By the way, when Alextopia is the law of the land, I petition Her Enragedness to put the screws to that country until they come up with the remains of those POWs they never gave back.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (lZ1M5)

117 Ewww! She has cooties!
Posted by: Shepard Smith at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (lN8KC)

No, sweetie, that's a cooter. Something I'm sure you are completely unfamiliar with.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (g+qqc)

118 112 BTW has it occurred to anyone that this whole thing is a proxy attack by the NORKs on Japan or that this would never happen in a million years under Reagan because he would make them shit their pants?

Just sayin'...
Posted by:

Indeed. The Gipper never would have put up with this shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (2Ojst)

119 107 Some of them were but many ,many more got away with it.For instance,the doctors who vivisected American aircrew alive were known and unpunished.(slap on the wrist prison sentences that were barely served)

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (v5UtH)

120 >>
-I think it is not for nothing that, during the Cold War, James Bond did not go after Smersh (as he did in the novels), but rather Spectre. In fact, the Soviets were often being menaced by the same bad guys that Bond was pursuing.

That was not out of fear of the Soviets; that was to appease pro-soviet, pro-communists in the West, in the academy, in Hollywood.

Posted by: ace at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (E+pqw)

121 Unlike the Germans the Japanese war crimes were largely unpunished and un apologized for.

----

DaFuq???

Posted by: Zombie Tojo and Half A dozen other neck stretched war criminals. at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (NaV4z)

122 "Greta Van Sustern is just wrong"

You could've stopped there.

Posted by: steve walsh at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (9TS9J)

123 83 Another thought ...
I think this movie was esp. short-sighted considering that it was ultimately green-lit by a Japanese-owned company. I could see Warner Bros. or Paramount stumbling into this clusterfark more easily than Sony, which should know that the regional political situation is ... um ... tense.
Posted by: jpcuva78 at December 18, 2014 02:17 PM (n/JT6)

What I've heard is that the Japanese top execs suggested dropping the North Korea references and making it a generic dictatorship but the American executives who run Sony Pictures told them to just trust us because this is better.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (pAlYe)

124 According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters. We are all so very much screwed.
Posted by: Dbot1800 at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (H0k3f)

I wonder what kind of suit Matt and Trey will have over that.

Someone on twitter posited that what is really scaring Sony is that the true P (ampersand) Ls for their movies will be released.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

125 This movie will leak out on the internet very soon I predict
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:21 PM (Zmw74)

Count on it.

With no royalties going to those that actually made it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (IXrOn)

126
It really is Sony's fault. They should have added trigger warnings to the movie and trailers.

Posted by: MacGruber at December 18, 2014 02:24 PM (C278+)

127 I could care less about anything Hollywood other than the incriminating emails. I want to see Hollywood elites squirm.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:24 PM (XzRw1)

128 What I've heard is that the Japanese top execs suggested dropping the North Korea references and making it a generic dictatorship but the American executives who run Sony Pictures told them to just trust us because this is better.

Seth Rogen has a stake in this too. He shares a director and story credit.

Posted by: EC at December 18, 2014 02:24 PM (GQ8sn)

129 What if North Korea made a movie that showed President Obama in a bad light."
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Doubt they could pull it off, but I'd pay to see it.

Posted by: looking closely at December 18, 2014 02:24 PM (6Q9g2)

130 Derek Zoolander saved the prime minister of Malaysia but never gets credit for it.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (fIv/H)

131 Some of them were but many ,many more got away with it.For instance,the doctors who vivisected American aircrew alive were known and unpunished.(slap on the wrist prison sentences that were barely served)
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (v5UtH)

I know. I was just joking.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (Zmw74)

132 As for the Soviets, there was a general understanding back then that you didn't try this kind of nonsense. Tit for tat, and all that. If the Soviets had ever tried to bomb a movie theater for some reason, then the US would have retaliated in kind.

That's ridiculous.

The USSR wouldn't bomb theaters because they're adults . They don't have child-like ego problems like NK has.

Posted by: EC

Gentlemen, there must not be a movie theater gap!!

Posted by: President Muffley at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (RFeQD)

133 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

What's that?

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (lZ1M5)

134 Trigger warning!

Don't touch her face, it might crack. OK we stitched it a little tight.

Posted by: Your local Plastic Surgeon at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (0FSuD)

135 121 See 119 and that is one example.The bio warfare scientists who killed hundreds of thousands( at least) Chinese were also never punished.Brought over to work for us like Von Braun but guilty of far worse than he was.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (v5UtH)

136 Doubt they could pull it off, but I'd pay to see it.

Posted by: looking closely

So would I!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 18, 2014 02:25 PM (l3vZN)

137 What do they say about AIDS?
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 02:11 PM (MMC8r)

Interesting question. It never comes up. They're a (normal) couple, and the tongue clucking typically happens in response to hearing someone having come down with some malady. AIDS hasn't come up, because they and their friends aren't homosexual, or IV drug users.

The subtext is of course that they won't suffer the same fate, because they engage in some spurious health fad or other. The couple is childless (by choice), and now that mortality is not just an abstraction, probably evince this Peter Pan effect as an assertion that they're going to live forever, since they're obviously not going to do so through their kids.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (oKE6c)

138
maybe sony should spend more of its money on cyber security and less money in campaigncontributions to the democraric party

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (lKyWE)

139 Anyone who has eaten a ham sandwich knows how dangerous it is and would not have been so stupid to choke to death.

Posted by: Greta Van Facelift on Mama Cass at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (WDCYi)

140 Heck, I thought it was a bit cowardly for comedians to go after North Korea because it avoided taking sides on Iraq, Iran, etc.

Funny how that's changed.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (EQcfE)

141 This file was full of microargessions

Posted by: sad Joe Biden at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (W6iIX)

142 I can't stand Seth Rogen and Hollywood is our enemy but this is not a good thing.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (v5UtH)

143
I'd like to see a poll of who people really believe did the hack?

North Korea
China on behalf of NK
China but implicating NK
Russia
Some kid in his mom's basement
Anonymous hackers
Zombie Mike Brown

I think its the 3rd above.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (NtzGn)

144 Are Norks really responsible? Could it be someone else?

Greta is an idiot.

Posted by: Carol at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (iZ6Km)

145 Isn't the point of most art, especially comedic art, to criticize and question, to challenge convention and conventional wisdom, and to identify bad and evil?

I shouldn't be but am stunned at what pussies these people are proving themselves to be.

Posted by: steve walsh at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (9TS9J)

146 What do you expect from Obama supporters?

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (9221z)

147 Oh, I forgot to put NSA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (NtzGn)

148 Greta is an idiot.
Posted by: Carol at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (iZ6Km)

She also talks like Wolf Blitzer

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (lZ1M5)

149 What I've heard is that the Japanese top execs
suggested dropping the North Korea references and making it a generic
dictatorship but the American executives who run Sony Pictures told them
to just trust us because this is better.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (pAlYe)

They'll make it about W. You heard it here first.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (oKE6c)

150 What the fuck are we paying taxes for?

Posted by: Darth Cobalt Shiva, Sith Lord at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (F2i9w)

151 121
Unlike the Germans the Japanese war crimes were largely unpunished and un apologized for.

The Koreans are currently making a film about the Japanese treatment of Korean sex slaves during WWII. The Japanese government has been trying to whitewash their crimes so the film's probably not going to be in wide release in Japan.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (AC0lD)

152 Beaten housewife syndrome.

"Don't do that! You know how angry it makes your father!"
"Don't draw comics like that! You know how angry that makes muslims!"
"Don't criticize or satirize North Korea! You know how they don't like that!"

etc.

Posted by: fb at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (JVEmw)

153 What if North Korea made a movie that showed President Obama in a bad light."

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Doubt they could pull it off, but I'd pay to see it.

Just replay anything he's done, add credits, and call it a movie.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (BPT9g)

154 She also talks like Wolf Blitzer

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (lZ1M5)

She talks like she's got a cigar in her mouth.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (oKE6c)

155 Rule 1: Never take Greta seriously.

Rule 2: See Rule 1.

Posted by: tsj017 at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (4YUWF)

156 What do you expect from Obama supporters?
Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 02:27 PM (9221z)

I expect you to die Mr Bond

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (Zmw74)

157 I can't stand Seth Rogen and Hollywood is our enemy but this is not a good thing.
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (v5UtH)

---

Except the part about them not getting their percentage.

Other than that.....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (NaV4z)

158 And this is Fox News, right ?
The Number One organization promoting Right Wing Deathbeastism according to our leftist betters ?
Reality based, yo.

Jeb / Hillary 2016 !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (OCcU9)

159 I agree, I have no love for Sony or Hollywood, but I don't think it was reckless to mock North Korea. That's really along the same lines as "woman deserved to get gang raped because she was dressing slutty".

Sony badly bungled this, I can "some what" understand maybe not releasing it in theaters because perhaps their insurance company was saying they could be looking at bankruptcy if there was a terrorist attck (again, I think it's a weak case against Sony but it would expensive to hash out) but not releasing the movie in any format really is a capitulation that boggles the mind.

I almost wonder if some back channel deal between Sony management and North Korea took place. It really seems to point to that.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (Esinq)

160 "Isn't the point of most art, especially comedic art, to criticize and question, to challenge convention and conventional wisdom, and to identify bad and evil?" No.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (mk9aG)

161 What do you expect from Obama supporters?
Posted by: Iblis

I would like an apology...and a blowjob

Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (8ikIW)

162 Teddy Roosevelt wasn't one for making the safe play.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

163 since they're obviously not going to do so through their kids.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:26 PM (oKE6c)

Yeah, narcissistic selfishness tends to lead one to look down one's nose at everyone else, doesn't it?

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (g+qqc)

164
From Drudge

Paramount cancels "Team America" showings in theaters.

What a bunch of uber pussies.

Posted by: YIKES! still auto banned at December 18, 2014 02:29 PM (t8ZX3)

165 I'd like to see a poll of who people really believe did the hack?

North Korea
China on behalf of NK
China but implicating NK
Russia
Some kid in his mom's basement
Anonymous hackers
Zombie Mike Brown

I think its the 3rd above.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

$10 on low level staffers in the Cincinnati office.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:30 PM (BPT9g)

166 "Perhaps Rogen was foolish to not realize it was risky."

Everyone's brave until their own necks are on the line. Picking on easy targets makes you fat and lazy.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 18, 2014 02:30 PM (JjJUC)

167 121 Unlike the Germans the Japanese war crimes were largely unpunished and un apologized for.

True, and pretty much air-brushed out of Japanese history books.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:30 PM (oKE6c)

168 Despite being a superpower, has any foreign government or business ever been too scared to mock a US president, ANY US president?
No. Because we believe in free speech, even outside of US borders. Free speech means no one gets special snowflake treatment. Or, it used to.

While I have little sympathy for Hollywood, this capitulation to a foreign power with a seemingly AWOL US government is not good. They threatened to mass murder US citizens, not even Sony employees or the people involved in making the movie. So it is not just a business issue.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (ABcz/)

169 It doesn't even matter who did the hacking or who levied the threats in regards to setting a dangerous precedent. Now that it is widely known that western entertainment can be subverted and/or aborted by vague threats from anonymous sources, it will happen more and for less reasons.

It won't stop at movies either.

Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (/Mxso)

170 Remember when Bush blew up Big Ben after the Brits made that movie where he was assassinated?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (g1DWB)

171 Jeremy Irons will be the only approved movie villain from here on out.

Posted by: joeclark77 at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (0oYPW)

172 "Japanese war crimes" There's been maybe a half-dozen movies about the Nanking Massacre made just in the last ten years. A couple of them were pretty good. Japan couldn't stop them.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (mk9aG)

173 True, and pretty much air-brushed out of Japanese history books.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:30 PM (oKE6c)

whut?

Posted by: Nanking at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (W6iIX)

174 Sony badly bungled this, I can "some what" understand maybe not releasing it in theaters because perhaps their insurance company was saying they could be looking at bankruptcy if there was a terrorist attck (again, I think it's a weak case against Sony but it would expensive to hash out) but not releasing the movie in any format really is a capitulation that boggles the mind.

One speculation I've heard is that Sony's insurance will only cover a complete loss i.e. no release whatsoever and that's why they may not even put it out on video or streaming.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (pAlYe)

175 Letting the Emperor stay in power might have been good for order but it sent a bad message.Japanese took it to mean they had done nothing wrong.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (v5UtH)

176 If only the Norks had stopped the release of Die Another Day... man, that was awful.

Posted by: PabloD at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (W+7p8)

177 Jeremy Irons will be the only approved movie villain from here on out.
Posted by: joeclark77 at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (0oYPW)

That's not sawdust on the floor, it's chewed scenery.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (lZ1M5)

178 The Koreans are currently making a film about the Japanese treatment of Korean sex slaves during WWII. The Japanese government has been trying to whitewash their crimes so the film's probably not going to be in wide release in Japan.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:28 PM (AC0lD)

Yeah, this is the sort of crap I remember every time I see some bleeding-heart video of the remembrance days of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan.

Read what you sow. Reap.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (g+qqc)

179 164

From Drudge

Paramount cancels "Team America" showings in theaters.

Very responsible of them.

Posted by: From Greta's Mildly Deformed Mouth at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (XzRw1)

180 "...and living lives full of color and steel."

I like that a lot!

Posted by: Name Withheld at December 18, 2014 02:32 PM (jjaLl)

181 Greta is yet another face of the "extreme right-wing" FoxNews.

Scientologist Greta and Effete Snob Shep Smith are apparently the face of the hard-core, Christianist right-wing in America.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif)

182 We are a free society, so long as don't do or say anything that offends a single person.

Posted by: california red at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (UyEG4)

183 If only the Norks had stopped the release of Die Another Day... man, that was awful.

Posted by: PabloD

Maybe they could do something about the Kardashians?

American Idol?

Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (8ikIW)

184 Greta has man-mouth. Like a lumberjack or a long haul trucker on a tight turn-around in the middle of winter. There, I said it.

Posted by: Randy Rider, editor of Glory Hole Tails magazine at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (MNq6o)

185 169 It doesn't even matter who did the hacking or who levied the threats in regards to setting a dangerous precedent. Now that it is widely known that western entertainment can be subverted and/or aborted by vague threats from anonymous sources, it will happen more and for less reasons.
It won't stop at movies either.
Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 02:31 PM (/Mxso)

Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Crazed Islamic Terrorists Local 666 at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (oKE6c)

186 Paramount cancels "Team America" showings in theaters.

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Ummm the rated or unrated version..... asking for a friend.

Posted by: Zombie Howard Cosel at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (NaV4z)

187 I don't blame Sony for pulling the movie. Whether they should have made it or not is different question.
Once they got the 9/11 theater threat they had no choice. If ANYTHING had happened to anyone at a theater playing the movie Sony would have been open to endless lawsuits. If something big happened (even by a copycat nut) the lawsuits could have destroyed the company. Once the threat came out publicly -- the litigious lawyers of this country were in charge and pulling the movie was inevitable -- a duty to its shareholders.

Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (0/0A6)

188 Maybe they could do something about the Kardashians?

American Idol?
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (8ikIW)

The Kardashians are idle rich morons. Kim probably loves that show.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (lZ1M5)

189 Has Obama said a single, goddamn word you about defending free expression from foreign tyrants yet?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (ZPrif)

190 Maybe they could do something about the Kardashians?

American Idol?
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (8ikIW)

I'm thinking Kim's ass could feed a flock of NORKs for the winter. Just a suggestion. She wouldn't miss the first three feet of blubber at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 18, 2014 02:35 PM (g+qqc)

191 Look, Sony, let's face facts. You aren't getting your money back for this movie. It's a dead loss. Also, these guys aren't going to stop screwing you over just because you didn't release the movie - the fact you made the movie is sufficient.I suspect, without any data, that there is some really embarassing crap out there that you don't want to see the light of day. At the very least, copies of other unreleased movies that could be pirated. You are hoping that the hackers will forgive you, and not release those movies. Forget it - they plan on ruining you. Just as an example. You are like a battered woman hoping that this next time he won't hit you again, or at least not as hard. My advice? Buy a gun and shoot the asshole. Better still - call the cops. Every civilized nation on Earth might be willing to help if you show a little gumption. just pick up the phone. What good is giving all that money to Obama and the Democrats, if not for this?

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at December 18, 2014 02:35 PM (/EkKm)

192 Maybe they could do something about the Kardashians?

American Idol?

Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (8ikIW)

Maybe we could convince them that reality TV is making fun of them. Oh, and The View. And the Lifetime channel generally. And MSNBC.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:36 PM (oKE6c)

193 Greta's a good person. I wouldn't give her too hard a time.

Posted by: despair at December 18, 2014 02:36 PM (dcY7v)

194 17 I wonder if NK would have been so "gutsy" with its terrorist threats, if, you know, someone ELSE was in the White House.

--

This & also 168 Above.

It's a new world order and TFG has fundamentally transformed the USA, once the Big Satan that nobody messes with, to anyone's b*tch.

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 02:36 PM (cbfNE)

195 Harelip dyke.

Sorry, that was mean.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 18, 2014 02:36 PM (kCxMY)

196 184
Greta has man-mouth. Like a lumberjack or a long haul trucker on a tight turn-around in the middle of winter.

You owe me a new keyboard.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:37 PM (XzRw1)

197 Alamo Drafthouse DFW @AlamoDFW 20h
FOR THE RECORD: We were still going to show #TheInterviewMovie

Alamo Drafthouse DFW @AlamoDFW 20h
but now we'll be showing TEAM AMERICA in it's place ... for FREE(DOM). Because AMERICA, F YEAH.

Alamo Drafthouse DFW @AlamoDFW 27m ago
Due to to circumstances beyond our control, the TEAM AMERICA 12/27 screening has been cancelled. We apologize & will provide refunds today.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:37 PM (ZPrif)

198 I hereby call on all the freedom loving peoples of the Internet to set aside two hours tonight to watch "Team America". In the event you don't have it, any movie or book in which an evil totalitarian asshole gets his teeth kicked in is an acceptable substitute.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:37 PM (lZ1M5)

199 A pearl of wisdom, that explains so much about our current, Gruberist country:

"This is of course the really basic thing about human behavior: Humans love to discover new ways in which they are Superior to new people they had previously not realized they were superior to at all."

I don't always sniff the throne of Ace, but when I do, I inhale deeply.

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 18, 2014 02:37 PM (HEo6y)

200
Is it risky to drink this other bottle of vodka?

Will my brain retaliate for this obvious cavalier and mocking attitude?

Then again, who's the boss? Am I going to kowtow to a lump of neurons and whatever sort of twisted alliance it might make with my stomach?

Bastards, I'll show them, I'll show all of them.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 18, 2014 02:38 PM (sH832)

201 Scientologist Greta

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif)

Holy shit, she's a Scientologist? How did that happen? She's whack, but I'd thought she was of normal intelligence. Guess I was wrong.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:38 PM (oKE6c)

202 Greta's a good person. I wouldn't give her too hard a time.
--
Except for her cult and caving to dictators, yeah, she's swell.

Oh, hey, doesn't her cult attack anyone who uses the Media in anyway to criticize Scientology?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (ZPrif)

203 North Korea wasn't even *that* big a part of Die Another Day. Some guy's son puts on a Batman suit and rips off Goldeneye, which itself ripped off Diamonds Are Forever. There's a nice scene where Bond is exchanged for a prisoner and he wonders if he's going to get shot, but it's really an awful movie.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (EQcfE)

204
Greta has man-mouth. Like a lumberjack or a long haul trucker on a tight turn-around in the middle of winter. There, I said it.
Posted by: Randy Rider, editor of Glory Hole Tails magazine at December 18, 2014 02:33 PM (MNq6o)

Keep in mind this is after her plastic surgery.

Posted by: YIKES! still auto banned at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (t8ZX3)

205 Harelip dyke.

HARELIP DYKE??

Posted by: The Rev. Al at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (5UYtO)

206 I don't blame Sony for pulling the movie. Whether they should have made it or not is different question.
Once they got the 9/11 theater threat they had no choice. If ANYTHING had happened to anyone at a theater playing the movie Sony would have been open to endless lawsuits. If something big happened (even by a copycat nut) the lawsuits could have destroyed the company. Once the threat came out publicly -- the litigious lawyers of this country were in charge and pulling the movie was inevitable -- a duty to its shareholders.
Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (0/0A6)

Yeah let me think about that? Yeah NO BULLSHIT.

Are the Airlines grounding al flights?
Are all Restaurants closing- I mean after what happened in Australia
Are All Schools closing after what happened in Pakistan

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (Zmw74)

207 Yeah, Greta is the stupid one..

OT - anyone else see Seth Rogan and James Franco on the "Naked and Afraid" mini-episode? It was pretty funny.

I wouldn't normally go see a dopey Christmas release comedy like The Interview, but if they release it, I am gonna go!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 18, 2014 02:39 PM (4+IgA)

208 "Holy shit, she's a Scientologist?" Yes, and her husband is way high in the Scientology hierarchy. That's why I didn't like seeing Palin pal around with them.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (mk9aG)

209 Hollywood plays it safe. They won't criticize Muslims, for example. They had no problem making a movie about murdering Bush, but I doubt you'll see one with Putin as the target. I think they were just ignorant about NK's possible reaction to this, and would not have made it if they'd known there would be blowback.

Posted by: despair at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (dcY7v)

210 I hereby call on all the freedom loving peoples of the Internet to set aside two hours tonight to watch "Team America". In the event you don't have it,

Amazon Prime FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (BPT9g)

211 Once they got the 9/11 theater threat they had no choice.
Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (0/0A6)

I agree about the lawsuits and you're right.

But since that's true, why shouldn't NK use the same threats again for the Oscars, the Golden Globes and all of those film festivals?

On the plus side, many of the liberals might develop a new appreciation of men with guns protecting them.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (AC0lD)

212 198 I hereby call on all the freedom loving peoples of the Internet to set aside two hours tonight to watch "Team America". In the event you don't have it, any movie or book in which an evil totalitarian asshole gets his teeth kicked in is an acceptable substitute.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:37 PM (lZ1M5)

I think the full movie's available on YouTube.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (oKE6c)

213 Does anybody not remember the Sony rootkit they were infecting people's PC's with a few years ago? It's probably still collecting data today from people who don't know any better.

I find this just slightly ironic - it couldn't happen to a better company.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (sH832)

214 Economic warfare.

It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (0HooB)

215 Economic warfare.

It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (0HooB)

216 What if it's Hollywood using "hackers" as a publicity stunt,
Norks using "hackers" as they're usual extortion craziness,
ChiComs using Norks dittoe
with a side order of this movie sukz
and now the media needs something to talk about.

Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (DL2i+)

217 Now it can be told: the whole situation was engineered by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, not the Norks. This whole capitulation by Sony only results in public demand for Team America: World Police. Follow the money, my friends. Who profits? If there's a Team America sequel anytime soon, just remember, you heard it here first.

If Greta's sentiment speaks for this nation, then America's fucked - yeah. Fortunately, she's just a capitulating appeaser.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (iIzG7)

218 I'm curious where this goes from here.

I tend to think this will of course be tried again, but that it becomes much less potent. But it's still troubling.

Had the Sony hack not been the lead story for the last several weeks (mainly because of gossipy insider info) the threats of violence would have been ignored.

Once it became the story that was the center of the universe, it was almost guaranteed that a nut would try something at a theater screening.

If not releasing it at all (including DVD and VOD) as a result of an insurance contract, Sony should really make those details known rather than letting the press run with "they folded because they were scared".

We blame the North Korans for this (as we should) but honestly the bigger enemy is how litigious America has become. That's really what everyone is cared of. Being sued.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (Esinq)

219
Nazis. Only Nazis can be made fun of. And Republicans.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (NtzGn)

220 look, everyone must save their righteous indignition , money and time for the real threat : conservatives.

Posted by: willow at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (nqBYe)

221 Wow, my first double-post.

I need a cigarette.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (0HooB)

222 The ironic part is when Sony was conceptualizing the script, they probably talked about the setting. Can't assassinate the leader of Russia or China or Iran, they said, those guys may get mad. Why not North Korea? Those yokels are always mad! Easy, peasy!

Of course if Sony had spent less time figuring ways to screw their contracted talent and the government out of profits and taxes, and a little more time securing their computers, they wouldn't be capitulating like the craven dogs they are right now, would they?

Posted by: Adjoran at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (QIQ6j)

223 But since that's true, why shouldn't NK use the
same threats again for the Oscars, the Golden Globes and all of those
film festivals?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:40 PM (AC0lD)

Because the NoRKs hate us, and want us to endure all of that crap.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (oKE6c)

224 "Holy shit, she's a Scientologist?"

Seriously?!

Posted by: Zombie L. Ron Hubbard at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (MNq6o)

225 Ace wrote, "The people taking risks will just have to content themselves with mattering and living lives full of color and steel."

Now that's a nice turn of phrase. It also has the benefit of being true.

Posted by: troyriser at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (CAJL/)

226 Oh, and Greta can be a pompous jerk much of the time. I'm usually not in a mood to find out.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (QIQ6j)

227 It's hard to be brave, apparently, when threatened with embarrassment by exposing your private correspondence.

The USSR and China never embarrassed people in retaliation for a perceived slight. But this - this! - is more than anyone can endure, to be shamed by your own thoughts.

Posted by: Marmo, subject no. 284,963,107 at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (QW+AD)

228 And that Chaplin fellow.
Idiot.

Posted by: Greta Van Dhimmitude at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (HEo6y)

229 Beer run.

BBL

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:42 PM (0HooB)

230 The people taking risks will just have to content themselves with mattering and living lives full of color and steel. Excellent summation Ace. It sounds like you are describing Ted Cruz.

Posted by: nanny hag at December 18, 2014 02:43 PM (Queum)

231 If Greta's sentiment speaks for this nation, then America's fucked - yeah. Fortunately, she's just a capitulating appeaser.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (iIzG7)

Remake the movie with the dictator being Xenu, and his minions Thetans.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:43 PM (oKE6c)

232

..... trying to work a thetan pun in here somewhere.... but damned if I can figure it out.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (NaV4z)

233 Would Sustern also say things like: "How stupid she was to wear that dress in that neighborhood. Of course she deserved to be raped."

Posted by: I Loathe Silence Sensually at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (xkSSa)

234 187
Once they got the 9/11 theater threat they had no choice. If
ANYTHING had happened to anyone at a theater playing the movie Sony
would have been open to endless lawsuits.

Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (0/0A6)
This touches on a another morally reprehensible issue we have in the US, let's say:
-Paramount produces a product.-You consume said product by your own volition.
-Third party, unrelated to you or Paramount visits harm on you for consumption of said product.-You or surviving family members sue Paramount.
see also: Newtown families suing gun manufacturers.

Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (/Mxso)

235 I can't say that watching Hollywood bending over for totalitarian dictators is not pretty entertaining but since when does North Korea get a veto on what cr@ppy movies are available to Americans? WTH happened to US power?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (i0vkQ)

236 so once again, "that insulting video that no one saw" is to blame.

Maybe SONY is more afraid of the emails revealing what cynics they are ... or maybe worse, emails reveal how anti-American Hollywood is.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (MXSv3)

237 Our response to the NK hacking should be to go ahead and actually assassinate Kim Jong whatever.

Posted by: Chris M at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (k3w9p)

238 Not to excuse SONY, but when the supposed Leader of the Free World has video makers arrested in the dead of night who's got your back?

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 18, 2014 02:45 PM (HEo6y)

239
Risk-taking is good.

Right up until you go *splat*. But that serves as a lesson to the rest of us, so value is always present.

But no progress is made without risk taking. I'm pretty sure the first guy to try riding a horse said something like "Hey, Vern, watch this!"

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 18, 2014 02:45 PM (VvOZ5)

240 On the plus side, many of the liberals might develop a new appreciation of men with guns protecting them.

#toolate

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:45 PM (BPT9g)

241
who releases a movie about an ass assassination attempt on christmas day anyway.sony gets what it deserves. its all fun and games until somebody gets an eye poked out

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 02:45 PM (lKyWE)

242 Funny. In a feature film a fictionalized movie company would hire a team to really take out the dictator in retaliation, film it and release it as a documentary.
Remember all the movie stars that enlisted in WW II or acted as spies? Remember the '40s films that glorified some Joe Schmoe who discovered a Nazi plot and shot one?
That was then.
Now it is "apologize and attend cultural sensitivity training."
Obama didn't open up relations with Cuba to export capitalism, he agreed to drop the embargo in order to import a marxist dictatorship.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 18, 2014 02:45 PM (NHtMs)

243
I would have to agree, the threat of more email releases, not the fear of attacks is what probably drove the cancellation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (NtzGn)

244 222
The ironic part is when Sony was conceptualizing the script, they
probably talked about the setting. Can't assassinate the leader of
Russia or China or Iran, they said, those guys may get mad. Why not
North Korea? Those yokels are always mad! Easy, peasy!

Posted by: Adjoran

Supposedly Sony management in Japan pushed back hard against using North Korea and instead asked for a fictional leader and country to be used. Seth Rogen pushed back hard to make it specific to NK.

Rogen was not being some super brave patriot. He's now got 24/7 body guards and probably will for the rest of his life. He just thought some controversy would probably spur some ticket sales.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (Esinq)

245 221
Wow, my first double-post.

I need a cigarette.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (0HooB)
Smoke it after you leave.

Posted by: The Barrel at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (/Mxso)

246 Maybe SONY is more afraid of the emails revealing what cynics they are
... or maybe worse, emails reveal how anti-American Hollywood is.

This. Fuck this other noise. I want to read some of the unreleased emails.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (XzRw1)

247 "go ahead and actually assassinate Kim Jong whatever." Yes, the liberation of NK would be one of the greatest humanitarian triumphs of the modern era. Decapitate their entire govt.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (mk9aG)

248 look, its a fact that some dictators you just do not mock

free speech? hah you just dont

some dont even have to be alive

Posted by: Mohammed at December 18, 2014 02:46 PM (i5m4i)

249 Our response to the NK hacking should be to go ahead and actually assassinate Kim Jong whatever.

Posted by: Chris M at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (k3w9p)

----

**shows Chris the picture of our current POTUS, on a girls bike, wearing Mom jeans, with a styrofoam helmet on his head.

And Ive got another of him "working out" "lifting weights" if your still not dissuaded.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:47 PM (NaV4z)

250 Let's not forget that other projecting local power and hiring others to crack sony's computer system, North Korea has shown NO ability to attack the USA. But yet weak kneed gutless low information Americans are shitting a brick. Disgusting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:47 PM (Zmw74)

251 WTH happened to US power?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead

Someone called my bluff? *looks confused, shows the everyone at the table his hand of Old Maid cards*

Posted by: Barely Obama at December 18, 2014 02:48 PM (MNq6o)

252 This. Fuck this other noise. I want to read some of the unreleased emails.

Here's how I'd play it:

* Hack Sony.

* Release some nice dirt.

* Say it was because of movie X, rumble badness if it releases.

* Release the rest of the dirt & commit the badness anyway.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 02:48 PM (DT3rQ)

253 I guess the big question is how is this going to affect my independently produced film "The XXX Interview" which was also going to be set in North Korea?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:48 PM (AC0lD)

254 So, if the Hollywood Left are such pussies -- how do they keep beating us?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

255 It's not exactly the same, but I remember a lot of people saying the Duke Lacrosse Team sorta had it coming for hiring strippers in the first place.

Posted by: Passably Affable at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (/YzPM)

256
Casablanca should never have been made while the war was on.

they should have waited to see who won
idiots

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (zOTsN)

257 cracked.com/article_14932_the-top-10-secret-celebrity-scientologists.html

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (lZ1M5)

258 This is related to the previous thread, but it's dead now, so I'll post it here:

Just LOOK at the face of the professor-chick who "hates Republicans":

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/comm/facultystaff/faculty/douglassusan_ci

If that isn't "the crazy face," I don't know what is.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (K4YiS)

259 While we're all distracted by NK & Cuba, here's $5 that says Putin is gping yo do something crazy and desperate to shore up the ruble.

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (cbfNE)

260 Our response to the NK hacking should be to go ahead and actually assassinate Kim Jong whatever.

/types answer
/deletes
/types
/deletes
/types
/deletes
/gives up and starts craving eggnog again

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (DT3rQ)

261 So, if the Hollywood Left are such pussies -- how do they keep beating us?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

because they actually HATE us....

Cuba, Iran, ISIS, Putin.... not so much.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:50 PM (NaV4z)

262 Casablanca should never have been made while the war was on.

they should have waited to see who won
idiots
Posted by: ThunderB

Lol

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (NHtMs)

263 Hogan's Heroes?

Stupid to make. When Schultz and Klink find out they're being mocked, they're gonna go berserk!

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (K4YiS)

264 WTH happened to US power?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (i0vkQ)

You've been out of the country since 2009, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (oKE6c)

265 I guess the big question is how is this going to affect my independently produced film "The XXX Interview" which was also going to be set in North Korea?

I hear you saved a bundle by using local talent. A 4-pack of Campbell's soup and you had 'em all month...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (DT3rQ)

266 252

Here's how I'd play it:

* Hack Sony.

* Release some nice dirt.

* Say it was because of movie X, rumble badness if it releases.

* Release the rest of the dirt commit the badness anyway.

O'Keefe'em

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (XzRw1)

267
Zero Dark Thirty should never have been made

its too damn provoking. terrorists might be upset

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

268 Pretty ironic that two years ago the WH used an obscure YouTube video of a film as their excuse for inflaming Muslims in the Middle East -->Benghazi, after which Obama and Hills bent over to apologize and say some free speech is out of bounds.
And now because of this, any defense of Sony's film and right to free expression would be a contradiction.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (ABcz/)

269 250.

I agree that the odds of North Korea actually bombing a
movie theater were zero. It would be an act of war and the regime
wouldn't last.

I think though the odds of some nut wanting the
spotlight and doing something were astronomically high. If someone did
it for a Batman premiere, they'd do it for this.

Not excusing Sony, but I do see the dilemma.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (Esinq)

270
the thing to do when faced with crazed terrorists is to blame the video

iowahawk said it best yesterday

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (zOTsN)

271 Preach it Ace! The soft choice crowd has the upper hand because thats how life works in a welfare state: why venture to gain when you're guaranteed a nice living for existing (voting Dem)?

Posted by: pashmr at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (3aNC4)

272
i didn't noticesony speaking out when obama was blaming bengahzi on some internet movie

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (lKyWE)

273 Zero Dark Thirty should never have been made

its too damn provoking. terrorists might be upset

---

ummm.... that argument was actually made.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (NaV4z)

274 I'm still not convinced the Norks did it.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (ZPrif)

275 The Democrats: Nah, We Won't Defend You

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (DT3rQ)

276 Just LOOK at the face of the professor-chick who "hates Republicans":

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/comm/facultystaff/faculty/douglassusan_ci

If that isn't "the crazy face," I don't know what is.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (K4YiS)

Looks like she could chew through stainless steel.

Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 02:52 PM (/Mxso)

277 Just LOOK at the face of the professor-chick who "hates Republicans":

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/comm/facultystaff/faculty/douglassusan_ci

If that isn't "the crazy face," I don't know what is.

Posted by: zombie

Fuck, man! A little warning maybe? Shit. Is that what hate does to your face?!?

Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 02:53 PM (MNq6o)

278 ummm.... that argument was actually made.

That's one of the things I hate about this century, it's impossible to tell parody from reality anymore.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 02:53 PM (DT3rQ)

279 276 her left eye shoots laser beams

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 02:53 PM (xohGI)

280 So from now on, movies depicting real rogue regimes or well-funded terrorist organizations in a negative light will be uninsurable. Since Hollywood has already capitulated to CAIR is ready to knuckle under to every other quick-to-offense ethnic interest, every action movie or thriller from now on (as opposed to just 90% of them, let's be honest) will feature either Evil Corporations, Comic-Book Supervillains, Slavic mafiosi, white supremacists, or Tea Partiers as the antagonists.

And if neo-Nazis or Eastern European gangsters ever get the idea to threaten a studio, they'll be scratched off the list of villain types too.

Fleming's James Bond books originally had him up against a Soviet agency called SMERSH. He switched it to Blofeld / SPECTRE early on because he thought the Cold War would be over soon and SMERSH wouldn't be topical anymore. In hindsight, that turned out to be a good business decision for other reasons.

Posted by: Alex at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (7Yy8M)

281 If Obama had half a testicle and wasn't an America-hating communist traitor, when should just fuckin' obliterate the entire North Korean government in a surprise mass-assassination attack, and free50 million people from tyranny.

History would thank us.

Unfortunately, he is an America-hating communist traitor, so it's not gonna happen.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (K4YiS)

282 Here's how I'd play it:
* Hack Sony.
* Release some nice dirt.
* Say it was because of movie X, rumble
badness if it releases.

*Release small amount of badness.
*Threaten to release moar badness
*Blackmail for millions
*Profit!!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (BPT9g)

283
if the Norks didn't do it then what the actual fuck is Homeland Security for

isn't this sort of thing supposed to be in their wheelhouse

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

284 30 The 1st Amendment is dead if foreign governments have veto power over us.

The First Amendment only restricts the American government, not foreign governments or non-governmental entities.

Posted by: despair at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (dcY7v)

285 We've come a long way - down - from "Pedecaris alive, or Raisuli dead!"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (oKE6c)

286 she looks like a terminator

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 18, 2014 02:54 PM (fIv/H)

287 "Nazis. Only Nazis can be made fun of."

Funny how it took the Three Stooges and Charlie Chaplin to make even that possible.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 18, 2014 02:55 PM (EQcfE)

288 Yeah, and that WWII thing?

All because of that movie that Charlie Chaplin made mocking Adolf Hitler.....The Little Dictator.

Made Hitler so mad, he couldn't help himself.

And then millions died.

Chaplin. Harummmph.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at December 18, 2014 02:55 PM (RFeQD)

289 freedom costs a buck 0 five

Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (Tj+s6)

290 264 WTH happened to US power?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 18, 2014 02:44 PM (i0vkQ)

You've been out of the country since 2009, right?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:51 PM (oKE6c)

~

See, what had happened was, after the election there was this sale on vodka at valuerite...

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (i0vkQ)

291 279
276 her left eye shoots laser beams

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 02:53 PM (xohGI)

That's the bad news. The good news is it is pointed a little to the left and up, so it'll miss you.

Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (/Mxso)

292 In her defense, the cockroach movie was, I think, maybe, fiction.

But she'd be wrong anyway on the larger points.

Posted by: SarahW at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (Lbv/k)

293
On the Record Broadcasts Live from North Korea for First Time
May 12, 2011 On the Record

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Hello. Welcome to Pyongyang, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, known most familiarly to the American audience as North Korea. We are broadcasting live. It is about 11:32 a.m. in North Korea now, and it is a very exciting time for "On the Record" because this is the first time we are broadcasting live.

We've been to this country on multiple occasions. This is our third trip. But this trip is different from all the other trips we've taken. Not only are we broadcasting live, but we've gained more access than we've ever had before...

Tres suprise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (kdS6q)

294 Somewhere in Hollywood, I'm sure several 'closet' conservatives are probably enjoying this. And since it's Hollywood which really does hate us, I'm not entirely broken up either.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (AC0lD)

295 >>Zero Dark Thirty should never have been made
its too damn provoking. terrorists might be upset

Well, one movie that was actually inflammatory was "Redacted" since terrorists used the rape scene to convince potential jihadis that they were watching an actually rape by US servicemen, which put our forces in greater danger.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (ABcz/)

296 Maybe it's all a marketing scam.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 02:56 PM (rwI+c)

297 So, we get to see Sarah Palin as the villina in everything from now on? She's already been attacked in at least three movies that i can recall offhand.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 02:57 PM (Spluw)

298 Zombie, Obama probably would have done so except for those emails mocking him. He is just as sensitive to mockery as the junior-junior Kim.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2014 02:57 PM (lIPFl)

299 Furnunculus Van Susternus!

Posted by: Harry Potter at December 18, 2014 02:57 PM (fIv/H)

300 it wont stop with movie companies

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 02:57 PM (zOTsN)

301 Breaking

Ernst: We will treat this as a National Security matter.

Translated: We're going to cover up/deny any nasty emails that may surface. Tea Party originated.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 02:58 PM (XzRw1)

302 So, if the Hollywood Left are such pussies -- how do they keep beating us?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

Because the Left knows we view ourselves as thestand-up guyswho strive hard to meet what the Left considers archaic moral codes and outdated, patriarchal social standards. Thus, they feel they can say or do pretty much anything they want to us without fear of real-world repercussions. Unlike, say,Muslims. Unlike Kim Jung Un.

Posted by: troyriser at December 18, 2014 02:58 PM (CAJL/)

303 she looks like a terminator

Posted by: Dr. Varno

After being destroyed by acid. And pit bulls. Pit bulls with Chlamydia. In their mouths.

Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 02:58 PM (MNq6o)

304 If that isn't "the crazy face," I don't know what is.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 02:49 PM (K4YiS)

It's a naked mole rat!

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:58 PM (lZ1M5)

305
BTW - Rolling Stone is -- err -- on a roll.

Last issue was the rape article that went all turtle on them, and this issue Seth Rogan is on the cover promoting his movie that just got ice-picked.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 18, 2014 02:59 PM (kdS6q)

306 @269 I think though the odds of some nut wanting the
spotlight and doing something were astronomically high. If someone did
it for a Batman premiere, they'd do it for this.

Not excusing Sony, but I do see the dilemma.
--------------------

What probably should have happened is this -

DC contacts Sony and says, "We view this as a threat by a hostile foreign power. If an attack actually happens, and you are sued as a result, then so long as you fight the lawsuit in court the US government will agree to cover your court fees and any losses incurred."

Posted by: junior at December 18, 2014 02:59 PM (UWFpX)

307 BTW - Rolling Stone is -- err -- on a roll.

Last
issue was the rape article that went all turtle on them, and this issue
Seth Rogan is on the cover promoting his movie that just got
ice-picked.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

Bwahahahahahaha! *also peeing*

Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 03:00 PM (MNq6o)

308 Sadly, this is nothing new. PBS used to run a travel show hosted by a vapid, annoying chick. She did a segment in the American South and guess what half the show was about? Yup, slavery.
She did a segment in China, and did a sequence in Tianamen square, about ten years after the PRA held tank driving practice over their own kids. Not one word during the onsite sequence.
She made an oblique reference later on ofcamera.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 03:00 PM (Spluw)

309 "How #stupid- #Sony could have made a fictional movie but instead insults unstable country w/nuclear weapons.Sony= #idiots"

Hollywood understands that perfectly when it comes to Obama's US.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2014 03:00 PM (lIPFl)

310 Now Paramount won't let them show Team America!

FUCK NO!

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 03:01 PM (9221z)

311
268 Pretty ironic that two years ago the WH used an obscure YouTube video of a film as their excuse for inflaming Muslims in the Middle East -->Benghazi, after which Obama and Hills bent over to apologize and say some free speech is out of bounds.
And now because of this, any defense of Sony's film and right to free expression would be a contradiction.

Undermining the 1st Amendment is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: CM at December 18, 2014 03:01 PM (0NdlF)

312 'Her "solution" to terrorism is just to capitulate pre-emptively to potential terrorists'...

How 'bout we capitulate pre-emptively with a nuke over Pyongyang.

Posted by: thefritz at December 18, 2014 03:01 PM (HUo8E)

313 Various Child Protective Services oversaw the killing or death by "who gives a shit anyway?" of 786 children in their systems over a six year period.

But you know what? Government is really great for Julia!

http://thebea.st/1z9hDAW

Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 03:01 PM (LISuA)

314 BTW - Rolling Stone is -- err -- on a roll.Last issue was the rape article that went all turtle on them, and this issue Seth Rogan is on the cover promoting his movie that just got ice-picked.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

Next month: Mili Vanilli, Vanilla Ice and Vanilla ice milk; keepin' it real after all these years.

Posted by: Rolling Stone at December 18, 2014 03:01 PM (Spluw)

315 So we've heard from Greta and Shep. has anyone heard anything from the lead idiot Geraldo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:02 PM (Zmw74)

316 China Tests ICBM With Multiple Warheads
Clinton-era tech transfer aided multi-warhead program

But hey I got an idea, let's fret over a fucking movie, a lousy movie at that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:03 PM (Zmw74)

317 Because the Left knows we view ourselves as thestand-up guyswho strive hard to meet what the Left considers archaic moral codes and outdated, patriarchal social standards. Thus, they feel they can say or do pretty much anything they want to us without fear of real-
world repercussions. Unlike, say,Muslims. Unlike Kim Jung Un.

The right has hackers. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:03 PM (BPT9g)

318
Obama didn't open up relations with Cuba to export capitalism, he agreed to drop the embargo in order to import a marxist dictatorship.

Nah, he doesn't need cuban advisors, he's doing a pretty good job on his own.

Wut?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 18, 2014 03:03 PM (VvOZ5)

319
anybody heard from that great diplomat

Dennis Rodman? Perhaps Hollywood can ask him to intervene

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:04 PM (zOTsN)

320 You can always attack some of my students. I'll denounce them for you.

Posted by: Susan J. Bitchface Univ of Mich at December 18, 2014 03:05 PM (Spluw)

321 Obama didn't open up relations with Cuba to export capitalism, he
agreed to drop the embargo in order to import a marxist dictatorship.

I thought I had some job security. Drink.

Posted by: John Boehner at December 18, 2014 03:05 PM (XzRw1)

322 >>So we've heard from Greta and Shep. has anyone heard anything from the lead idiot Geraldo?

He tweeted:
Regarding threats made vs theaters that dare show The Interview we've
learned hard way how vulnerable audiences are. Remember Aurora?12 dead

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 03:06 PM (ABcz/)

323 Dennis Rodman also says Putin is "cool"

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

324 White House aides: Obama feels liberated and ready to be the president he always wanted to be

Hey Israel, ya know what that means

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:06 PM (Zmw74)

325 Decapitate their entire govt.

Ahem, koff.

Posted by: Ten Thousand Artillery Pieces pointed at Seoul at December 18, 2014 03:07 PM (DL2i+)

326 So can we resume ripping on Kimberlin?

Thinking the exact same thing. Lot of blogging heroes out puffing their chests up today but when Kimberlin was on his "rampage" it was all hysterical warnings to not mention his name in the comments. Literally.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 18, 2014 03:08 PM (+lsX1)

327
White House aides: Obama feels liberated and ready to be the president he always wanted to be
the first openly gay trans-sexual president?

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 03:08 PM (lKyWE)

328 Drudge:

"Massive graveyard with ONE MILLION mummies unearthed in Egypt"

"The Fag el-Gamous cemetery stretches over 300 acres in Faiyum, Egypt"

(* tee-hee-hee *)

Posted by: 8 year olds everywhere at December 18, 2014 03:08 PM (wr4LJ)

329 If Hollywood wants peace with Kim Jung Un all they need to do is send Kim Kardashian over for a weekend. He's supposedly a fan and, lord knows, it appears she'll do practically anything for cash.

Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 03:08 PM (LISuA)

330 White House aides: Obama feels liberated and ready to be the president he always wanted to be

Like the kind that rewards the New (and improved!) Black Panthers, starts wars for oil, race riots for profit and abandons women and children to be raped and killed?

When is that gonna kick off?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 03:08 PM (Spluw)

331
every action movie or thriller from now on (as opposed to just 90% of them, let's be honest) will feature either Evil Corporations, Comic-Book Supervillains, Slavic mafiosi, white supremacists, or Tea Partiers as the antagonists.

Deer Hollywierd, I can help you with this problem. For a small upfront fee and a reasonable amount of royalties, that is. I'm am 100% Evil White Male that you're craving.

I'll have Tom Hiddleston's Loki crying like a little bitch five minutes into the next Marvel movie he makes an appearance in.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 18, 2014 03:09 PM (VvOZ5)

332 Sony was stupid, but the reason is not that one from Greta.

Sony USA is massively stupid because they thought they could make a clever point talking about an oppressive regime run by a dictator.

After Odumbo in the White House the usa have no ground on commenting or mock another oppressive regime run by a dictator.

Posted by: fromabroad at December 18, 2014 03:09 PM (rnV3B)

333 Yeah, we're basically gonna get two years of Bullworth now.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:10 PM (ZPrif)

334 Well, at least I can aford more jaguars, even if i can't pronounce the word.

Posted by: Tom Hiddleston and the rest of the Brit bad guys at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (Spluw)

335 I don't give a rat's ass what some third world dictator thinks of our freedoms. It pisses me off that Sony capitulated. I would have gone to see this stinker if only to shove it in the Norks face. What else can we not do that makes our enemies mad. Oh, I know, Islamofacists hate it when girls go to school. Let's just not send them anymore.

Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (w3a0Z)

336 The Daily Caller @DailyCaller
Democratic Party Launches 'Colbert Week' To Thank Stephen Colbert trib.al/DlQDaev

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (ZPrif)

337 So just to be clear, making movies about killing G.W.Bush good, murderous dictators bad.

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (9221z)

338 So just to be clear, making movies about killing G.W.Bush good, murderous dictators bad.

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (9221z)

339 Hey, Chaplin...that Great Dictator Thing? Knock it off, Hitler is a loony. Groucho? Ditto on Duck Feathers.

Appeasement has many forms and sacrificing free speech so as not to upset Kim Jong Fatty is among them.

Greta and Fox News should be ashamed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (659DL)

340 And it ceased, and God granted them all things
for which they had striven,
And the heart of a beast in the place
of a man's heart was given...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (DT3rQ)

341 Hey, just send the California National Guard to invade North Korea. Problem solved.

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (oDCMR)

342 Sorry double post

Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (9221z)

343 Anyone who HAS BEEN TO a place that I HAVE BEEN TO would have a special, ineffable sort of wisdom akin to precognition. That is why everyone should just do whatever PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PLACES tell them to do. Did I mention that I HAVE BEEN TO OTHER COUNTRIES? One time right after college I fell off my bike and skinned my knee IN MOTHERFUCKING BELGIUM, someone put on a bandaid free of charge, and because that worked out for me personally, the entire U.S. healthcare system must now be replaced with that of Belgium. Many who presume to differ have not even BEEN TO FUCKING BELGIUM, so what do they know?

Posted by: Dave M at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (wc6Rk)

344 perhaps the issue was 1) lawyers and 2) Sony is basically a Japanese company

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (zOTsN)

345 Yeah, we're basically gonna get two years of Bullworth now.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:10 PM (ZPrif)

Bull what?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (W5DcG)

346 im so ronery

Posted by: Barky Obamma at December 18, 2014 03:12 PM (6/J77)

347 Anybody else remember the movie "Please Don't Drink the Water"?

Does anyone think such a movie could be made now?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 03:13 PM (Spluw)

348 and 3) Sony was told to expect no help from the government

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:13 PM (zOTsN)

349
Did Sony pull the movie to stop any type of violent attack? I tend to believe that the attack that they are trying to prevent is anyfurther release of emails that show what a craven pack of hyenas they are. That and their personal information including finances is scaring the shit out of them.

Posted by: cheri at December 18, 2014 03:13 PM (oiNtH)

350 339

~~Greta and~~ Fox News should be ashamed.

Posted by: John Boehner at December 18, 2014 03:13 PM (XzRw1)

351 If Hollywood wants peace with Kim Jung Un all they need to do is send Kim Kardashian over for a weekend. He's supposedly a fan and, lord knows, it appears she'll do practically anything for cash.

U.S. cash is no problem, running dog imperialist. We print it in the basement.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at December 18, 2014 03:14 PM (8ZskC)

352 333.

Yep, no question. I knew that was going to happen if we had a really good election.

But it's going to really hurt the Dems chances in 2016. Already they've made Florida much easier to paint red.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 03:14 PM (Esinq)

353
its not Christmas yet

must be some humdingers in that email

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:14 PM (zOTsN)

354 Shit--DUCK SOUP.

One of those days...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (659DL)

355 and 3) Sony was told to expect no help from the government

Nobody who's paid attention the last few years had to be told.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (DT3rQ)

356 The thinking by Sony was this...

We can make fun of communist leaders since we're also communists and hence our fellow travelers would never hurt us.

Ooopsie.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (0LHZx)

357 349-it seems that would be the truth about the matter. Also, does anyone else think that NK is simply not up to a hack of this magnitude? I'm thinking some other country was involved on their behalf. Who else would benefit from seeing the US cave to a cyber attack?

Posted by: Moki at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (bAB8f)

358 "when Kimberlin was on his "rampage"" He's still rampaging. It's all he lives for. He has some recent scalps, too.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (mk9aG)

359 Notice that the idea of Free Speech is rarely defended by the Left anymore.

They always want to point out that the whole Free Speech thing is specific to America and most of the rest of the world imposes much stricter limits on Free Speech.

They talk about speech controls now the way they used to talk about Socialism -- everybody else does it and we're the weird ones for not liking it.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (ZPrif)

360 I really only have one question regarding this open and deliberate attack on American free speech *inside* America.

What are we going to do to retaliate?

How many of the hackers do we intend to kill?

Well that's two questions, I suppose.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (A6vWB)

361 must be some humdingers in that email

I can't wait. It will be like a Christmas miracle.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (XzRw1)

362
well

in Hollywood's "defense"

they bought and paid for the POTUS. They assumed it meant he would protect them

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (zOTsN)

363
124 According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters. We are all so very much screwed.
Posted by: Dbot1800 at December 18, 2014 02:16 PM (H0k3f)

I wonder what kind of suit Matt and Trey will have over that.

Someone on twitter posited that what is really scaring Sony is that the true P (ampersand) Ls for their movies will be released.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

Probably not much unfortunately nor much they can do. It's like the 200th episode of south park where comedy central bleeped out every mention of Mohammed and now refuses to re-air it or the super best friends episode.

Posted by: buzzion at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (z/Ubi)

364 Who else would benefit from seeing the US cave to a cyber attack?

The Peruvians?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (8ZskC)

365 Ms. Van Sustern is a pretty straight shooter, and not easily intimidated. I have to wonder if her tweets should have been /Sarc tagged.

If not, then her dismay is misdirected.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (/GgDU)

366 Shit--DUCK SOUP.

I'll pass.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:16 PM (BPT9g)

367 >>I tend to believe that the attack that they are trying to prevent is
anyfurther release of emails that show what a craven pack of hyenas they
are.

I agree. There's so much decadence and business shenanigans going on in Hollywood it would hardly surprise me this was more about saving their own butts.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 03:17 PM (ABcz/)

368 357 349-it seems that would be the truth about the matter. Also, does anyone else think that NK is simply not up to a hack of this magnitude? I'm thinking some other country was involved on their behalf. Who else would benefit from seeing the US cave to a cyber attack?
Posted by: Moki at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (bAB8f)

_______

Yep.

North Korea probably initiated it, but the Chinese were more than happy to help out.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 03:17 PM (0LHZx)

369
somehow the JV team keeps kicking the varsity teams ass

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 03:18 PM (lKyWE)

370 It's a little hard to take an enemy seriously that can't even feed it's population.
-----------

Those may the most dangerous..., cornered animal and all that. Particularly when the guy driving the bus is a psychopath.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:18 PM (/GgDU)

371 like maybe they cooked the books?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

372 It's a little hard to take an enemy seriously that can't even feed it's population

_________

They can't feed the population, but there's food a plenty for the military. It's how all dictatorships work.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (0LHZx)

373 Sony was "stupid" to break up with Cher in the first place.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (lHb9q)

374 Notice that the idea of Free Speech is rarely defended by the Left anymore.

They always want to point out that the whole Free Speech thing is specific to America and most of the rest of the world imposes much stricter limits on Free Speech.

They talk about speech controls now the way they used to talk about Socialism -- everybody else does it and we're the weird ones for not liking it.

They'll suddenly fid it again when a conservative president starts putting the screws to them.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (BPT9g)

375 must be some humdingers in that email

I can't wait. It will be like a Christmas miracle.

Posted by: Thin
---------------------

Yes, it will be amusing. But, in the end, it will drive Hollywood toward even more political correctness.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (/GgDU)

376 and 4) Sony is in business to make money, period. They aren't a nation-state, and they aren't The Global Guardian of Free Speech. Their computers are so infested that they can't even cut checks. So, sad as it is, I'm not going to pile on them for capitulating.

Posted by: gp at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (mk9aG)

377 Greta seemed a little too friendly toward Mike Tyson, which seemed like a strange guest for a political show.

Then she somewhat defends Holder, since her career crossed paths with him apparently, and she thought "you're better than that Holder" or some such attitude, when he was using the AG position to be an activist.

I don't know just what her real politics are.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (MXSv3)

378 I don't give a rat's ass what some third world dictator thinks of our freedoms. It pisses me off that Sony capitulated. I would have gone to see this stinker if only to shove it in the Norks face. What else can we not do that makes our enemies mad. Oh, I know, Islamofacists hate it when girls go to school. Let's just not send them anymore.
Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2014 03:11 PM (w3a0Z)

Yup. Are you reading my mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (Zmw74)

379 >.like maybe they cooked the books?

Oh, yeah. The author of Forest Gump sued the studio because according to their accounting, the movie never made a profit. Happens all the time.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 03:20 PM (ABcz/)

380 did you see what they were wearing? that bitch was asking for it

Posted by: Greta Translated at December 18, 2014 03:20 PM (IG5KL)

381 367
>>I tend to believe that the attack that they are trying to prevent is

anyfurther release of emails that show what a craven pack of hyenas they

are.

I agree. There's so much decadence and business
shenanigans going on in Hollywood it would hardly surprise me this was
more about saving their own butts.

Posted by: Lizzy

______________________

That's why I honestly wonder if Sony management didn't just cut a deal with these people behind the scenes.

"Okay, what do you want. no movie? Done." It's just like negotiating a deal with any Hollywood narcisist.

The "whole loss" insurance angle though is interesting, it might have been a situation where to claim a total loss, it could never see the light of day in any form.

Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 03:21 PM (Esinq)

382 So, all anyone has to do is threaten a terrorist act, and we cave in? There was the "Bush Doctrine". What we have now is the "Pussy Doctrine".

I want that movie to be shown and I want to go to it at a theater. That is my right. I do not like being told what I can, and cannot do. And I certainly don't like being dictated to by a nation that treats its own citizens like cattle.

Oh, and Boko Haram has apparently kidnapped a bunch more people, including women and children who will, no doubt, be turned into sex slaves.
Better not say anything mean about them or they might do something BAD.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 18, 2014 03:21 PM (2pq7O)

383 I don't know just what her real politics are.

You cna be sure she will work tirelessly against Xemu and his minions.

Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at December 18, 2014 03:21 PM (8ZskC)

384 Freedonia has always been at war with Sylvania.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:21 PM (KqWhe)

385 I don't know just what her real politics are.
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 18, 2014 03:19 PM (MXSv3)

____________

She's a liberal but not an insane hysterical liberal. She's just an uglier version of Kirsten Powers.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 03:22 PM (0LHZx)

386 Sonys stock has stabilized

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:22 PM (zOTsN)

387 So, when did this country turn into a bunch of pussies? Oh yeah, 2008.

Nevermind.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (t06LC)

388 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (kff5f)

389 The Revolution is succeeding. The Long March, comrades..., The Long March.

Posted by: Fidel Castro at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (/GgDU)

390 She's just an uglier version of Kirsten Powers.

I think she might have hired Martina Navratolova's Stylist.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (XXl8b)

391
Greta...I don't know just what her real politics are.
Posted by: Illiniwek

1. What would you like them to be?
2. How much money do you have?

Answer the second question first.

Posted by: Greta Van Sustern

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (kdS6q)

392 Sonys stock has stabilized
Posted by: ThunderB

Excellent. Wait until Friday afternoon just before the close of trading, when the stock starts to recover, and then unload the next shitment of joy.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 03:24 PM (Spluw)

393 Anyone pose the theory that a rival studio is behind the hack?

It's far fetched, but who the fuck knows? Hollywood is as cutthroat as Wall St. I wouldn't put anything past those people.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 03:24 PM (0LHZx)

394 White House vowing a "proportionate" response to NK.

Proportionate responses don't deter jackshit.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:24 PM (ZPrif)

395 Cut Greta a break, she hasn't been able to completely cleanse her thetan of Xenu yet.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 18, 2014 03:24 PM (SQkRc)

396 I think she might have hired Martina Navratolova's Stylist.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:23 PM (XXl8b)

maybe but she must have hired Joan Rivers Plastic surgeon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (Zmw74)

397 If our CIA had any sack at all, they would make a movie where Mohammed gets his squeakhole reamed by Kim Jung Eun and pretend it was made by the NORKs.

Posted by: Hillary's left testicle at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (zbSM/)

398 Noah Rothman @NoahCRothman 7m
Didn't we used to adhere to a doctrine of deterrence based on the disproportionate response to attacks? That seemed to work well.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (ZPrif)

399 what if the Norks blackmail corporations for cash

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (zOTsN)

400 91 DUDE? How about a warning about spoilers next time?

And then Rhett Butler said, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker's father."

Posted by: edj at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (klzyR)

401 hey anyone want to buy some Russian Rubbles?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (Zmw74)

402 I started to get into this in the morning thread, I think.

I don't blame Sony for this. I do not think Sony or Rogen and Franco are being "cowards."

The "cowards" here are Kim Jong Un and the SCOAMT.

The former for threatening citizens of a foreign country over a movie that will never make it to his shores in the first place.

The latter for NOT acting as the President and making it very clear that such threats will not be tolerated.

Oh, and Greta has (at best) about a 50% chance of being right on any given issue, so I do not find it hard to believe she'd pew the scrooch on this one.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (kff5f)

403 White House vowing a "proportionate" response to NK. Proportionate responses don't deter jackshit.
Posted by: Costanza Defense

We're serious mister. Don't get me miffed!!

Posted by: Clueless coed at the State dept. at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (Spluw)

404 Ace, having a Commie Dictator pimp slap Media Land for attempting to humiliate him by revealing all their dirty secrets is great theater. Watching them publically grovel is sweet. I'm guessing Obama's fundraisers in Hollywood might take dive - so its a win win situation. What's not to like? Why should I care what happens to a Japanese media company? Are they too big to fail?

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (oDCMR)

405 Sony pays it through their Japanese parent company

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (zOTsN)

406 what if the Norks blackmail corporations for cash
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:25 PM (zOTsN)

Hey shut the fuck up. We don't nee no competition

Posted by: Jackson/Sharpton INC. at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (Zmw74)

407 A coward dies a thousand deaths.

A hero dies but once.

Said by somebody famous once upon a time.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (l9mF2)

408 How about a warning about spoilers next time?

George shoots Lenny in the head .

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (5hSsY)

409 Didn't we used to adhere to a doctrine of deterrence based on the disproportionate response to attacks?
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That's just bullying.

Posted by: Whiny, protected Liberals at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (/GgDU)

410 Those theaters saying they'd show Team America instead? Nope!

Posted by: Paramount Pussies at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (SQkRc)

411 So, America has caved to Cuba and North Korea in the span of 24 hrs. Impressive.

Let's keep up the momentum and cave to Iran by Friday COB.
Yahtzee!!

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (ZPrif)

412 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (Zmw74)

413 what if the Norks blackmail corporations for cash

That's what I was thinking yesterday. I'm sure it's a lot easier to hack a company than it is to launch missiles or sink South Korean fishing vessels when they are strapped for cash and want to extort us for "aid."

Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (w3a0Z)

414 A coward dies a thousand deaths.

A hero dies but once.

Said by somebody famous once upon a time.

Kenny Rogers was a wise man.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (5hSsY)

415 206 I don't blame Sony for pulling the movie. Whether they should have made it or not is different question.
Once they got the 9/11 theater threat they had no choice. If ANYTHING had happened to anyone at a theater playing the movie Sony would have been open to endless lawsuits. If something big happened (even by a copycat nut) the lawsuits could have destroyed the company. Once the threat came out publicly -- the litigious lawyers of this country were in charge and pulling the movie was inevitable -- a duty to its shareholders.
Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 02:34 PM (0/0A6)

Yeah let me think about that? Yeah NO BULLSHIT.

Are the Airlines grounding al flights?
Are all Restaurants closing- I mean after what happened in Australia
Are All Schools closing after what happened in Pakistan

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute

Uh, no airlines, restaurants and schools are not doing that. But they also don't have the liability of a very specific and very public threat made against a specific and public company.

Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (qhUQl)

416 Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (oDCMR)

Ummm... because allowing a foreign country to determine what can or cannot be produced/published in the US might set a bad precedent?

Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (kff5f)

417 Are Parker and Stone the only people left in the entertainment industry who have actual balls?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (2pq7O)

418 Greta needs to go talk to Nancy about Ron and how he frequently mocked and ridiculed an unstable country with nukes. She might learn a little sumptin, sumptin

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (uRumV)

419 411 So, America has caved to Cuba and North Korea in the span of 24 hrs. Impressive.

Let's keep up the momentum and cave to Iran by Friday COB.
Yahtzee!!

Anyway we could surrender to Mexico?

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (oDCMR)

420 Let's keep up the momentum and cave to Iran by Friday COB.
Yahtzee!!
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (ZPrif)

We caved to Iran long ago. It's just a waiting game till it's announced

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (Zmw74)

421
I bet a Japanese corporation could find a way to pay the blackmail

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (zOTsN)

422 Richard Grenell @RichardGrenell 5h
Summary of @SonyPictures: raise millions for @BarackObama, call on @TheRevAl when in trouble and cave to @KimJongNumberUn when asked.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (ZPrif)

423 George shoots Lenny in the head .
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:26 PM (5hSsY)

Rosebud is a fucking sled. I know, right?

Posted by: troyriser at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (CAJL/)

424 Bad things befall good people all the time. There is a tendency for observers to seek out ways in which the victim should and could have avoided whatever happened to them. He was a smoker/overweight. She dressed provocatively. Etc.

The randomness of dread things happening can be really frightening because if some things are truly random, well then, they could happen to any of us while we're going about our lives and minding our business.

Great observations, Ace.

Posted by: RM at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (fRppw)

425 White House vowing a "proportionate" response to NK. Proportionate responses don't deter jackshit.

Posted by: Costanza Defense

I can only promise that it will be unbelievably small.

Posted by: John Kerry, Equite at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (8ZskC)

426 But they also don't have the liability of a very specific and very public threat made against a specific and public company.
Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (qhUQl)

Surely you jest?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (Zmw74)

427 People don't like being reminded that they used to torture and murder POWs.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:18 PM (lZ1M5)

Yes, and half a million Chinese civilians.

Posted by: stace at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (ImzkZ)

428 If our CIA had any sack at all, they would make a movie where Mohammed gets his squeakhole reamed by Kim Jung Eun and pretend it was made by the NORKs.
Posted by: Hillary's left testicle
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Now we're getting somewhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (/GgDU)

429 I wish you all would quit making fun of Greta and Shep. They are great fun in a three-way, with me in the middle.

Posted by: Gerdildo Retardo at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (wAQA5)

430 Ummm... because allowing a foreign country to determine what can or cannot be produced/published in the US might set a bad precedent? Just spitballin' here.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon

About this 'Lucky Charms' shit.....

Posted by: Republic of Ireland at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (Spluw)

431
that axis of evil stuff was so crazy

right?

I mean, talk about delusional

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (zOTsN)

432 Sonys stock has stabilized
Posted by: ThunderB

Room temperature?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (BPT9g)

433 White House vowing a "proportionate" response to NK.

So...empty threat of retaliation in response to (likely) empty threat of 9/11 style theater attack?

Regardless of whether NK's true intentions of an attack, they made the threat on US citizen in America, and Obama needs to come back with something a little stronger for what would be an act of war.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (ABcz/)

434 I can only promise that it will be unbelievably small.
Posted by: John Kerry
-----------------------

Pinpoint...., or maybe just needlepoint.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (/GgDU)

435
Also:

Recall The O is all about White House movie nights. Remember how he wanted last season's Game of Thrones episodes before they aired?

How about a screening of The Interview at the White House? Show who's boss.

Come on Barrack, what are you -- chicken?

Buck buck buck.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 18, 2014 03:30 PM (kdS6q)

436 Kerry promises strongly-worded hashtag.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 03:31 PM (/GgDU)

437 Kenny Rogers was a wise man.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:27 PM (5hSsY)

---

Coward of the County reference.

Impressive.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 03:31 PM (NaV4z)

438 White House vowing a "proportionate" response to NK

POTUS will not watch any North Korean movies on Netflix.

Posted by: edj at December 18, 2014 03:31 PM (klzyR)

439 Great observations, Ace.

Threadwinner!

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 03:31 PM (5hSsY)

440 About this Count Chocula, BS. Cut it out or we'll kill you.

Posted by: Wiccans at December 18, 2014 03:31 PM (XhzTz)

441 About those Alien movies with Sigourney Weaver. If you don't stop you'll be sorry.

Posted by: Aliens at December 18, 2014 03:32 PM (XhzTz)

442 Rosebud is a fucking sled. I know, right?
Posted by: troyriser

That's why i stay away. I'm not that kind of leisure equipment

Posted by: toboggan at December 18, 2014 03:33 PM (Spluw)

443 Rosebud is a fucking sled. I know, right?

Bruce Willis is a dead people.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 03:33 PM (rwI+c)

444 Ummm... because allowing a foreign country to determine what can or
cannot be produced/published in the US might set a bad precedent?

I honestly think allowing 'cyberwarfare' to be conducted without serious kinetic conventional retaliation is a bad precedent.

For the same way pretending that no one has any idea who is behind state-sponsored terrorism.

What you tolerate you will get more off.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (A6vWB)

445 I can only promise that it will be unbelievably small.
Posted by: John Kerry

That's what she said.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (BPT9g)

446 If Obama had any decency he would turn his SOTU address into movie night with a national showing of The Interview. It would 1) recoup some of our national testosterone, and 2) spare us from having to listen to two hours of Obama lying.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (nFdGS)

447 The 'cinamon' bit is not cool mon.

Posted by: Jamaica at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (Spluw)

448 Any Caddy Shack remakes, and we will turn you into cinders.

Posted by: The Gopher Alliance at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (/GgDU)

449 And how fucking pathetic is it that paramount actually told three random theaters not to show Team America?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (SQkRc)

450 Bad things befall good people all the time. There is a tendency for observers to seek out ways in which the victim should and could have avoided whatever happened to them. He was a smoker/overweight. She dressed provocatively. Etc.

The randomness of dread things happening can be really frightening because if some things are truly random, well then, they could happen to any of us while we're going about our lives and minding our business.

Great observations, Ace.
Posted by: RM at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (fRppw)

I'm one of those people who presumes that if someone is five minutes late, they are dead in a ditch somewhere.

Mommy eyerolled all over the place at me for this until I pointed out that I spent years at a plaintiff side personal injury firm where our entire business model was predicated on someone running out to the store to grab some milk and getting plowed down on the way there.

Yeah, when what you work on all day is the outcome of unexpected events occurring? It makes you a wee bit overly familiar with the notion that bad things can happen at any time.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

451 It was a cookbook.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (8ZskC)

452 We make men without chests and then say, hey, these guys ain't got no chests.

Posted by: C.S. Lewis' less articulate younger brother at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (b9G3D)

453 The President AllenG response to the NORK threats:

"To Kim Jong Un, current leader of North Korea,

If one person on American soil is harmed in relation to the release of the movie The Interview, the United States Air Force will bomb Pyongyang into rubble. We will fire-bomb your cities. Our Marines and Soldiers will invade your country, kill every member of the military and ruling party we can find, and raze your meager crops. Then we will salt your fields.

You have been warned."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (kff5f)

454 And that kind of insight is the very reason I come to this site first and most often every day.

Posted by: MWMcBrayer at December 18, 2014 03:35 PM (8VD7P)

455 What you tolerate you will get more off.
Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:34 PM (A6vWB)

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Sounds..... kinky......

Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 03:35 PM (NaV4z)

456
Did Sony pull the movie to stop any type of violent attack? I tend to believe that the attack that they are trying to prevent is anyfurther release of emails that show what a craven pack of hyenas they are. That and their personal information including finances is scaring the shit out of them.

Posted by: cheri at December 18, 2014 03:13 PM (oiNtH)

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2014 03:35 PM (TIIx5)

457 President Tobias Took: No North Korea, no problem.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (rwI+c)

458 I honestly think allowing 'cyberwarfare' to be conducted without serious kinetic conventional retaliation is a bad precedent.

This, too.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (kff5f)

459
I know

we will initiate full diplomatic relations

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (zOTsN)

460 219
Nazis. Only Nazis can be made fun of. And Republicans.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 02:41 PM (NtzGn)

Same thing.

Posted by: SJW douche at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (zoehZ)

461 Maybe we could offer the Norks Woody Allen to smooth things over.

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (oDCMR)

462 What you tolerate you will get more off.
Posted by: Methos

Doesn't work for sex.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:36 PM (BPT9g)

463 Dear Greta, see Spike Jones and/or Walt Disney.

http://tinyurl.com/mag8cr3
http://tinyurl.com/l6nc8n9

Posted by: Tex at December 18, 2014 03:37 PM (iyK4L)

464 "and 3) Sony was told to expect no help from the government"

Yep, that Django email really rankled the White House.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2014 03:37 PM (lIPFl)

465 We make men without chests and then say, hey, these guys ain't got no chests.
Posted by: C.S. Lewis' less articulate younger brother
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And *that* is why I hang out at this place.

Posted by: Chesty Puller's spirit at December 18, 2014 03:37 PM (/GgDU)

466 Maybe we could offer the Norks Woody Allen to smooth things over.

By the looks of Fat Boy, I think this may be a good time to engage in some Strategic Donut Diplomacy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 03:37 PM (8ZskC)

467 The NORK's send out hits against former Citizens that dare to speak out, What did these assholes expect to happen, that he would roll over and do nothing. Lets not forget that Japan is within range of his Missiles, and They know he is CRAZY, I really don't blame SONY.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 18, 2014 03:38 PM (MKtIU)

468 You don't tug on Superman's cape.
But you can piss on Barry's leg and he'll just say his pants acted stupidly.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2014 03:38 PM (OuLBr)

469 People ...

... SONY is a company, not an extension of the US government. It is SONY's right to make stupid decisions. That includes the right to can a movie prior to release because of a pissy threat by a shitty regime that can't follow through.

The fact that so many of you are so fucking riled is PRECISELY what allows Obama and those like him to continue their shit. They know that, no matter how much they screw you over, all they have to do is wave the flag and you'll all come running.

It's beyond Orwellian. It's Pavlovian.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 18, 2014 03:38 PM (ViF0c)

470 Buck buck buck.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

Shouldn't that be Bwock, Bwock, Bwock.

3 bucks will turn this into a gun thread.

Posted by: Ten Thousand Artillery Pieces pointed at Seoul at December 18, 2014 03:39 PM (DL2i+)

471 That said, as a 1-2 punch, the email hack and then 9/11 threats were very well orchestrated.

The email hack (especially with the incredibly racist comments and such, and given how incredibly thin-skinned this President is) meant that NORKs could be pretty sure that Sony would get no government support.

Then the threats (and no government support) meant that Sony almost *had* to pull the movie.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:39 PM (kff5f)

472 Knock of that 21 jumpstreet remake nonsense, if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: militarized thug cop local #69 at December 18, 2014 03:39 PM (A6vWB)

473 Maybe we could offer the Norks Woody Allen to smooth things over.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob
--------------------

I'm good with that. Kimmie likes the movies..., maybe could offer him a celeb. There are so many to choose from..., DiCaprio comes to mind.

Posted by: Chesty Puller's spirit at December 18, 2014 03:40 PM (/GgDU)

474 The fact that so many of you are so fucking riled is PRECISELY what allows Obama and those like him to continue their shit. They know that, no matter how much they screw you over, all they have to do is wave the flag and you'll all come running.

So, we don't have a right to ridicule their decision? Did you mean to post this on DKos?

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 03:40 PM (rwI+c)

475 According to twitter, Paramount has pulled Team America from theaters.

Yeah, but that's because of threats by "Matt Damon."

Posted by: edj at December 18, 2014 03:41 PM (klzyR)

476 And stupid brings the stupid. Again.

Posted by: Kenway at December 18, 2014 03:41 PM (v5huP)

477 I'm good with that. Kimmie likes the movies..., maybe could offer him a celeb. There are so many to choose from..., DiCaprio comes to mind.

One of my coworkers suggested threatening to send Denis Rodman back- and making them keep him.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 03:41 PM (kff5f)

478 I'm thinking this calls for an Ace movie review of Pulgasari.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCKSR0JArUQ

Maybe a Saturday night gang-critique.

Posted by: Ten Thousand Artillery Pieces pointed at Seoul at December 18, 2014 03:41 PM (DL2i+)

479 They know that, no matter how much they screw you over, all they have to do is wave the flag and you'll all come running. It's beyond Orwellian. It's Pavlovian.
Posted by: ScoggDog

Really? We've been jeering pres boyfriend. No one here even believes tat he'll do the right thing.
He could sew a flag on live TV and i wouldn't be impressed.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 03:41 PM (Spluw)

480 http://cheezburger.com/8402535424

Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2014 03:43 PM (DL2i+)

481 Remember when Hollywood had balls"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8Zx1GfDrM

Posted by: The Poliltical Hat at December 18, 2014 03:44 PM (lN8KC)

482 Say, I have an idea.

Anyone want to get out to a movie theater and burn Un in effigy? Or a north korean flag? Post it to youtube?

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:44 PM (A6vWB)

483 "Anyway we could surrender to Mexico?"

US is already Northern Mexico. They just haven't changed the signage and stationery yet.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2014 03:44 PM (lIPFl)

484 nood

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 03:45 PM (BPT9g)

485 How about a warning about spoilers next time?

Master Blaster is really a midget riding a Down syndrome kid.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2014 03:45 PM (OuLBr)

486 Say, I have an idea.

Anyone want to get out to a movie theater and burn Un in effigy? Or a north korean flag? Post it to youtube?

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:44 PM (A6vWB)

Sounds like fun.

I remember when some art center in California showcased Commie Vietnamese "art."

The Vietnamese community in SoCal got pissed, so they burned a North Vietnamese flag and dumped the ashed in "urine" and offered it to the art venue as a piece of art called "Piss Ho"

Posted by: The Poliltical Hat at December 18, 2014 03:46 PM (lN8KC)

487 It's beyond Orwellian. It's Pavlovian.

It's Kafkaesque and Euclidean! Newtonian and Sisyphean!

Posted by: edj at December 18, 2014 03:46 PM (klzyR)

488 Toby ... SONY is dumb. I said that. Criticize them all you want. Hell - it would not bother me if this bankrupted them.

But if you let every email threat from a thinly-veiled proxy of a shitty dictatorship spur you into demanding international action ... prepare to be pissed quite a bit. Me - I just don't have that level of National Pride.

A shitty company that's part of a shitty industry got hurt. So what ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 18, 2014 03:46 PM (ViF0c)

489 The President AllenG response to the NORK threats:

Oh, you're nice about it.

"Cyberattacks are hereby considered WMDs. Initiate one and we send the smoky man with the wide-brimmed hat to negotiate."

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 03:48 PM (DT3rQ)

490 Derp Derp derp derp derp.

Posted by: Kenway at December 18, 2014 03:48 PM (v5huP)

491
A shitty company that's part of a shitty industry got hurt. So what ?

amen

Posted by: kj at December 18, 2014 03:49 PM (lKyWE)

492 A shitty company that's part of a shitty industry got hurt. So what ?

some of the planet's inferior people conducted an economic attack against Americans and threatend more for Christmas.

That's the big deal.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2014 03:52 PM (A6vWB)

493 BREAKIN: Sony Suspends All Studio Tours Over Fears From The Interview

Weasel Zippers

Jesus, just hide under your bed and shake

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 04:01 PM (Zmw74)

494 Per Taranto BOTW: The Dept of State cleared the movie.

Posted by: Clarice Feldman at December 18, 2014 04:03 PM (hTLqd)

495 They hurt a Japanese Company. And they make threats that they can't make good on all the time.

They're trolling. Literally.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 18, 2014 04:04 PM (ViF0c)

496 DANEGELD!

Posted by: TJ at December 18, 2014 04:08 PM (TsUei)

497 Greta Von Scientology is just upset because the Lawrence Wright documentary on Paul Haggis and Scn is coming out and the COS is too impotent to pull this kind of suppression anymore.

Posted by: amsboethius1 at December 18, 2014 04:32 PM (1i1Bs)

498 426 But they also don't have the liability of a very specific and very public threat made against a specific and public company.
Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 03:28 PM (qhUQl)

Surely you jest?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 03:29 PM (Zmw74)
____________
No, no jest. Isn't Sony a/the specifically named company in the threat? Tell me the NAME of an airline, restaurant, or school that was very publicly warned not to do something lest their customers be killed.

Posted by: Alix at December 18, 2014 04:32 PM (0/0A6)

499 Escort girls www.regmodels.ru

Posted by: Linda at December 18, 2014 06:25 PM (Dj10Y)

500 Yeah, this is pretty outrageous of Greta. Blame the victim much?! Further, FREE SPEECH, Greta!

Say, y'know, if we didn't meddle in ME affairs, no one would've attacked us on 9/11... I mean, really?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 18, 2014 06:34 PM (rldyO)

501 That Ace is a real internet warrior
Corporations are evil no wait that is what the lefties say Sony did what all capitalists do look at the bottom line

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 07:46 PM (aR91B)

502 56
I guess Schindler's List was an insult to the Nazis?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (Zmw74)
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Nah, the Nazis are all dead. No one is left to retaliate, so it's OK to make bad movies about them.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I amn't at December 18, 2014 10:23 PM (TqyFL)

503 let me just say that while we enjoy freedom of expression in this country, perhaps it's time that we realize that there a lot of places in the world that do not. in addition, there a lot cultures out there that find the kind of movies and music that we produce to be quite offensive. yes, the studio caved, and yes, they shouldn't have, but perhaps they should have made a real movie, a good movie, as opposed to taking it on the chin for some run of the mill comedy that is probably replete with cliched canned jokes, and crass teenaged boy humor. a lot of countries out there find it offensive that we peddle music videos of women that are barely clothed slapping each other on the ass. hollywood needs to realize that they are very powerful in projecting values, culture, and ideals to the whole world. it would be nice, for a change, if they actually took that power seriously and attempted to make the world a better place by promoting something other than vapid vulgar cliched movies with crappy story lines, flat characters, and nothing but big explosions. maybe they should have done a remake of 1984 set in N Korea. At least it would have been worth it. At least it would have been meaningful. Capitulating to a totalitarian dictator's fragile and insecure ego over something that is most likely typical banal hollywood fare is nothing short of embarrassing. we are being pussies over nothing.

Posted by: Mistress O at December 18, 2014 10:52 PM (2/oBD)

504 amsbothious1

please do not blast scientologists because you don't agree with greta. i know it is "acceptable" to make fun of them, but in truth, they are ardent free marketers, believe that an individual is responsible for their own condition in life, believe that being ethical is a manifestation of a person's sanity and ability to reason, and they believe strongly in taking responsibility for all aspects of one's life. yeah, those are all such terrible things. fact is, most scientologists are conservative-leaning republicans or independents.

Posted by: Mistress O at December 18, 2014 11:00 PM (2/oBD)

505 @284: An often-repeated, pseudo- "clever" observation, viz: "The First Amendment only restricts the American government, not foreign governments or non-governmental entities."

So.....before the First Amendment was codified in 1791, there was no such thing as freedom? If the US Constitution were repealed tomorrow then freedom would cease to exist?

Yes, the US Bill of Rights was intended to codify inalienable, inherent rights, that no government could abridge without forfeiting legitimacy. But the legalism that "non governments" or "foreign governments" are not "bound" by the First Amendment is technically correct, but misses the larger point that to allow such entities to abridge our culture of freedom by imposing a heckler's veto (or Mafia thug veto) is to accept living in an unfree society.

The observation that a private citizen is not "bound" by the First Amendment is only valid insofar as it errs on the side of freedom i.e. to accept that private citizens (or non government entities) have a right to not like a given movie or book, can speak out against it, and speak their mind no matter how offensive, and not that they have a right to shut your mind down because they are "offended"

When I start threatening someone for showing a movie I don't like I'm not "unbound" by the First Amendment, I'm a douchebag enemy of a free society.

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