House Intelligence Chair: CIA Talking Points Were Changed By White House

And other things you were already pretty sure of. But he gets more specific than your hunch probably was.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the House intelligence committee, says the unclassified talking points put together by the CIA changed when they got to administration appointees:
"[T]here was not an intelligence failure," Rogers told "Meet the Press" on Sunday.
"The intelligence community had it right, and they had it right early. What happened was it worked its way up through the system of the so-called talking points, which everyone refers to, and then it went up to what’s called a deputy’s committee...It went to the so-called deputy’s committee, that’s populated by appointees from the administration. That’s where the narrative changed. And so how that thing got back to (Susan) Rice, I think, is probably another question."

And so the White House worked strenuously to provide the American public with a false narrative about the events in Benghazi.

I have this strange notion that whenever someone is assiduously working against the truth, the truth probably does not favor that person.

Posted by: Ace at 03:03 PM

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1
dribs and drabs

the longer they keep dragging this out, the less people will care

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:05 PM (v8xyR)

2 My rage at the MSM knows no bounds.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 19, 2012 03:05 PM (y5uWA)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:05 PM (8y9MW)

4 Oh,yeah?

Well, whattya gonna do about it? Huh?

Posted by: Pres. TFG at November 19, 2012 03:05 PM (ON54M)

5 I have this strange notion that whenever someone is assiduously working against the truth, the truth probably does not favor that person.
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Yes, a truth every parent knows.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at November 19, 2012 03:06 PM (encrR)

6 Valerie Jarrett has been a busy, busy rodent.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:06 PM (UOM48)

7 Yeah but he won so shut up.

We got dollars and food stamps to print, that just slows things down.

Posted by: Golan Globus at November 19, 2012 03:07 PM (/1U3u)

8 House Intelligence Chair: CIA Talking Points Were Changed By White House Empty Chair

Posted by: zmdavid at November 19, 2012 03:07 PM (ImdBx)

9 I'll say it again: Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Imagine the CO of a FOB in Afghanistan refusing to send support to a patrol under heavy fire, and then lying to his superiors about what happened and who was responsible.

Dereliction of Duty would be about the lightest thing he'd be slapped with.

Impeach. Now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:07 PM (8y9MW)

10 How it got back to Susan Rice is that she was instructed to lie and she said "Okay. No problemo."

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2012 03:08 PM (RD7QR)

11 Stutterclusterfuck of a miserable failure who goes on Leno and Letterman and every othercelebrity-driven narcissistic production. . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 19, 2012 03:08 PM (iAUf+)

12 Give up the losing fight on Benghazi, GOP

Posted by: Librul advice to Republicans at November 19, 2012 03:09 PM (60GaT)

13 Why didn't we see much stronger and immediate pushback from CIA? They had to have been having a fucking aneurysm listening to Rice talk on that Sunday.

Posted by: EC at November 19, 2012 03:09 PM (GQ8sn)

14 And what would you call someone or, hell, a whole party, that work strenuously against American success?

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 19, 2012 03:09 PM (ZMzpb)

15
The wrong questions are being asked. Ask instead:

Who refused to send help and why?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:09 PM (v8xyR)

16 And what would you call someone or, hell, a whole party, that work strenuously against American success?

Democrats.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:10 PM (8y9MW)

17 It's only been a month, give it time, folks...

http://watergate.info/chronology/brief-timeline-of-events

Posted by: Country Singer (prepping for SMOD) at November 19, 2012 03:10 PM (L8r/r)

18 This seems obvious to all of us, that Obama blamed the video at a time in the campaign when revealing the truth would have exposed his weakness on national security and providing for the security of Ambassador Stevens et al. But I have to wonder, are there going to be *any* repercussions to this? It's a coverup of the highest order, way worse than the whole Valerie Plame bullshit.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 19, 2012 03:10 PM (d/5qf)

19 ace, you and your silly notions.

Posted by: just L at November 19, 2012 03:10 PM (0PiQ4)

20 Who refused to send help and why?

We already know the answer to that, too. The White House (meaning Obama) had a direct feed of the events. No matter who refused to send help, Barack Obama could have done so simply by saying, "Are you out of your mind? Of course we send in the troops!"

He didn't. Therefor, whoever spoke the order, it came from him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:11 PM (8y9MW)

21 We'd better leave this one to the blogs.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 19, 2012 03:11 PM (BAS5M)

22
No one will be censored, fired, castigated or imprisoned for this mess. It's all about imagery and maintaining the party line of foolin' the rubes.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 19, 2012 03:11 PM (lDWQr)

23 So what happens? Somebody gets fired.?

Posted by: BignJames at November 19, 2012 03:12 PM (j7iSn)

24 Worse than Watergate.....but Obama will get away with all of this because the MSM wants to have his ugly love child. The Press hated Dick Nixon, so of course he had to go down. It doesn't work that way for Democrats. Unfortunately, I don't think the families of those four men will ever get justice or the answers they are looking for.

Posted by: Mo the Girl, who no longer hearts the Fat Man at November 19, 2012 03:12 PM (Envzy)

25 If there was an opposition party in charge of Congress, something might actually be done about this

Nothing will be done in the Senate, Dingy Harry has already said so explicitly;

Harry Reid: No Benghazi Select Committee in Senate

http://tinyurl.com/c5ncf64

Saying he refuses “to allow the Senate to be used as a venue for baseless partisan attacks,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid quashed a GOP request to create a Select Committee on the Benghazi consulate attack.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 19, 2012 03:13 PM (wwsoB)

26 "Impeach. Now."

"But I have to wonder, are there going to be *any* repercussions to this?"

There have to be 67 Senators willing to impeach for there to be any repercussions. The only thing Obama could do that would get a Democrat to vote for impeachment would be to switch parties.

Posted by: zmdavid at November 19, 2012 03:13 PM (ImdBx)

27 And so the White House worked strenuously to provide the American public with a false narrative about the events in Benghazi.

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No! C'mon, Ace. All of us should know better than that.

Anyway, it's too little, too late. This should have been the drumbeat of repubs from Romney to local dog-catcher. The Benghazi incident will die with the republic.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:13 PM (whJ33)

28 More Cocoa Puffs, Mr. President?

Posted by: The GOP at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (JGfaj)

29 and yet, in the third debate, Romney chose to french kiss obama than to shove this down his throat.

I think Romney coulda shoulda also have pulled an obama and ran to obama's left and right on foreign policy like O did to McCain in 2008 debates ("I will bomb everyones, fer sure")

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (QxSug)

30 The Tammany administration.

"What are you going to do about it?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (zF6Iw)

31 RE: Comments like:

"It's only been a month, give it time, folks..."

This is not the 1970's, 80's. etc.

The press and public are vastly different. Think, "short attention span" and "stupid".

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (zpqa2)

32 Headlining tonight's NBC New's with Brian Williams: Uppity Gymnast makes dumb face at White House with President!

Posted by: gulfkraken at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (WBfjO)

33
You think I want questions asked for my/our benefit?

I want, no, I demand damning testimony!

Name names. Who did what and when and why.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (v8xyR)

34 some ass hat was on fox earlier saying that rice only knew what intelligence told her....who ever the fox host was didn't correct him and the petraeus take has been out for over 72 hours......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (u673+)

35 Talking Points
[...]
6. The stooge responsible forcausing all thisby makinga cheap shitty Youtube video trailer that nobody sawshall be thrown into a dungeon using a writ of attainder. This shall be done with high visibility to show the Arab world that we will arbitrarily arrest our own citizens to appease them.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (w41GQ)

36 For example, I think we're all kind of scared now of patriot act and NDAA, right?

What the hell, let's put american's in gitmo too?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (QxSug)

37
Susan Rice "vas onlee follozing orders, mein herr" when she went out and peddled Obozo's prevarications about Benghazi. Obozo had it right when he said "Come after me".

And you know. Joe Wilson had it right when he said "You lie".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (oe1aw)

38 You want the truth? You can't have the truth!

Posted by: Stuff Col. Jessup almost said, Vol. VI at November 19, 2012 03:15 PM (ccXZP)

39 I've been to the finest schools.

I'm smart. I know things. I deserve respect.

Posted by: Susan Rice at November 19, 2012 03:15 PM (w41GQ)

40 The CIA had to lie about Benghazi because Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Trilateral Bilderberg Commission were encircling them with the Marshall Plan.

Posted by: Oliver Stone at November 19, 2012 03:16 PM (9F2c1)

41
"victory formation"

this phrase has beocome quite popular in this NFL season for some strange reason

we used to just call it taking a knee

anyway, Mitt Romney took a knee in the 3rd debate

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:16 PM (v8xyR)

42

I know nuttink, absolutely nuttink!

Posted by: White House Baghdad Jay at November 19, 2012 03:16 PM (lDWQr)

43 The Left: But, BOOOOOSH!!!! Illegal wars!!!! BOOOOSH is a war criminal!!!!!!

*crickets* over Benghazi.

Obama is so cool and dreamy!!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (UOM48)

44 The wrong questions are being asked. Ask instead: Who refused to send help and why?

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THIS!x1000. But the MFM,dems, and repub elite are controlling even this element in the narrative.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (whJ33)

45
which brings us back to what Coach Belichik always says: You play [to win] the game for 60 minutes.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (v8xyR)

46 So, the music has stopped playing at the "deputy's committee" and everyone is scrambling for a chair.

I wonder if the one left standing will have anything to say about how he/she got the crazy idea of changing the wording of the talking points?

Posted by: jwest at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (ZDsRL)

47 I'm wondering when Obama is going to introduce legislation concerning his crowning achievement, the obamanomics doctrine he outlined during the debates, hiring 100K teachers.

I mean right?

We need teachers, people are showing up to school and aren't able to learn anything because there are no teachers, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (QxSug)

48 Who would leak to the press as currently constituted? Chances are that someone would send the information to the White House rather than actually report things. Would F. Chuck Todd do anything to harm Obama if info were leaked to him? Andrea Mitchell? Name some others?

Posted by: ejo at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (GXvSO)

49 Romney could have hammered Obama over Benghazi and still lost. Only Rubio, Jindal, and Newt 'the ladies man' Gingrich would be hammering him over Benghazi instead of the "Santa Claus" crap. GOP presidential nominees don't need enemies with fellow party members like these.

Posted by: Mo the Girl, who no longer hearts the Fat Man at November 19, 2012 03:18 PM (Envzy)

50 yes, who refused help is a good question, but there's the question of who made it policy that there'd be no protection in the first place?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:18 PM (QxSug)

51 The CIA thinks it can infiltrate the mountain of Dr. Klahn???

Posted by: Dr. Klahn at November 19, 2012 03:19 PM (JGfaj)

52
The good old boys club consisting of republicans and democrats will do absolutely nothing except blow hot air on this debacle. Upsetting the current administration will only mean the democrats will reciprocate with republicans in power. It's a draw!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 19, 2012 03:19 PM (lDWQr)

53 Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 19, 2012 03:14 PM (zpqa2)

Actually, I think the public was as stupid then as now. The differences are the MSM no longer hides their partisanship and, as you said, attention span. However, there is proportionally more information flow, which compresses the time span. I'll give up hope on anything happening over Benghazi in five more months.

Posted by: Country Singer (prepping for SMOD) at November 19, 2012 03:20 PM (L8r/r)

54 Hmm, why wouldn't the CIA push back on the WH version of events?

Why, why why why?

Posted by: Golan Globus at November 19, 2012 03:21 PM (/1U3u)

55 actually, I think Perry would've been a hell of a choice, he'd answer every debate question with Benghazi. You saw him go after romney, imagine how hard he'd go after obama.

sigh.

And Perry is the only GOP member who actually gave a passing interest to voter fraud. well,except for allen west.

Read the article on what's going on in AW's district, multiply that insanity times 100,000 and you can see how Soro's Sec. State initiative worked to win 2012 for Obama. There's probably 2-5 million Romney votes in landfills across the country.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:21 PM (QxSug)

56 I agree, Ace. The truth isn't favorable to them.

The question now is, how unfavorable.

Was Obama simply not aware this was happening? Was he paralyzed with indecision? Or was he determined that everyone in the consulate/annex be killed?

Where are the survivors? In hospitals? Hiding? Gone full black? In protective custody?

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 19, 2012 03:21 PM (GoIUi)

57 Burn.It.Down.

(or nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at November 19, 2012 03:22 PM (XjXIN)

58 The entire Benghazi affair illustrates clearly just how completely in the tank the media is.

From the beginning, they downplayed the significance of an assassinated Ambassador, ignored the lax security despite months of warnings and pleas for upgrades, lambasted Romney for a week for taking the exact position the White House took within 12 hours of Mitt, and refused to cover the story further (except Fox News) until after the election.

The sad part is that even though media is now mistrusted by 60% of Americans, it was still powerful enough to pull Obama through.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 19, 2012 03:22 PM (ZHQvg)

59 "How it got back to Susan Rice is that she was instructed to lie and she said "Okay. No problemo."

I could also believe that Rice herself was lied to. It could be that she's become a threat to, or just annoyed, "others" (cough...ValJar) and that those others set her up as cannon fodder.

Posted by: Chief Assclown John Roberts at November 19, 2012 03:22 PM (pkkxZ)

60 Hello. This is Dr. Klahn. I'm not home right now. Leave a message when you hear the beyep. You have our gratitude.

Posted by: Dr. Klahn at November 19, 2012 03:22 PM (JGfaj)

61

Nothing happened on Fast and Furious, nothing happens here. Nothing happens no matter what the fuck this socialist junta does. Our country is gone, let's just sit back and enjoy the legalized dope and stupefying idiot box(es).\

Posted by: imp at November 19, 2012 03:23 PM (UaxA0)

62 We need teachers, people are showing up to school and aren't able to learn anything because there are no teachers, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on f***ers at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (QxSug)

The glorious Soviet Union cannot hire enough teachers because the McCarthyites are encircling them. That's why they needed to build the Berlin Wall to keep teachers from emigrating.

Posted by: Oliver Stone at November 19, 2012 03:23 PM (9F2c1)

63 Let's stay focused on what's important here. A dangerous filmmaker has been taken off the streets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2012 03:24 PM (QKKT0)

64 Obama knew, it was policy. Of course he was asked to help during the attack.

He went to bed, then left for Vegas, and then robotically blamed attack on vile, particularly vile video (which I take as a feint attack on free speech, to see how much he can press a bullshit line of attack on a video).

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:24 PM (QxSug)

65 We already know the answer to that, too. The White House (meaning Obama)
had a direct feed of the events. No matter who refused to send help,
Barack Obama could have done so simply by saying, "Are you out of your
mind? Of course we send in the troops!"

Unless they patched the feed over the Golf Channel, I doubt Obama would've seen it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 19, 2012 03:25 PM (SY2Kh)

66 "Obama is so cool and dreamy!!!"

We say this every night before we kiss our posters of him.

Posted by: Vagina Voters at November 19, 2012 03:25 PM (Envzy)

67 The CIA had to lie about Benghazi because Zbigniew Brzezinski and the
Trilateral Bilderberg Commission were encircling them with the Marshall
Plan.

You're more right than you know. I'm currently in a shouting match with some leftard who's saying the reason the SCOAMF's administration they blamed the Youtube video was because the CIA needed cover for their undercover agents within al Qaeda. If that had been the case, it would have been a helluva lot simpler to just have Rice go out there and say "Our investigation into the attack is ongoing" and leaving it at that.

Oh, and the guy had the gall to tell me to enter the "cold brisk air of the real world".

/facepalm

Posted by: Armando at November 19, 2012 03:25 PM (5iuEW)

68 64
Obama knew, it was policy. Of course he was asked to help during the attack.

He went to bed, then left for Vegas, and then robotically blamed
attack on vile, particularly vile video (which I take as a feint attack
on free speech, to see how much he can press a bullshit line of attack
on a video).

Seeing that lying bastard and Hitlery standing in front of the caskets at Andrews AFB.....

*blood boiling*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:26 PM (UOM48)

69 yes, yes, we know msm in the tank. It was actually worse back in the 60's and the 80's (plus, unhip reagan was running for president right after sexual revolution, disco). Romney sold 2012 election pitch on him and the economy, too bad the msm sold the lie that the economy's back, baby!

Romney should've gone full spectrum warfare, including rubbing obama's nose in Arizona immigration meddling.

Of course, immigration is the 26 year old slow gestating cancer that the GOP never had the ballszack to fight on that hill for.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:26 PM (QxSug)

70 How did Stone go into the Army during Viet Nam, get a bronze star and be back out on the street in just 15 months?

Posted by: Invictus at November 19, 2012 03:26 PM (OQpzc)

71 Obama cares about us, including what happened in Benghazi. It's too bad people died, but he had good intentions and didn't mean for people to die. You Rethuglicans are the hateful, uncaring ones. Now you're just trying to make something out of nothing.

Posted by: Typical 2012 Voter at November 19, 2012 03:27 PM (zpqa2)

72 ?**62 We need teachers, people are showing up to school and aren't able to learn anything because there are no teachers, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on f***ers at November 19, 2012 03:17 PM (QxSug)

The glorious Soviet Union cannot hire enough teachers because the McCarthyites are encircling them. That's why they needed to build the Berlin Wall to keep teachers from emigrating.**

yeah, we were going to teach kids to read until Paul Ryan's budget closed all the schools.

lolz, biden's debate performance was mesmerizing.

The DNC: we always have an excuse.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:27 PM (QxSug)

73 Hmm, why wouldn't the CIA push back on the WH version of events? Why, why why why?
Posted by: Golan Globus at November 19, 2012 03:21 PM (/1U3u)

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Fear for the well-being of their operatives. Don't think for a minute that Dear Leader wouldn't demand their names and then mysteriously, out of a total mistake in communications, expose all of them.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:28 PM (whJ33)

74 re: " the so-called deputy's committee"

It's *called* the fucking Deputies Committee, and it currently consists of some combination of Denis McDonough, James Miller, Wendy Sherman, James Clapper, Dawn Meyerriecks, James Winnefeld, Antony Blinken, and Michael Morellâ€”and it occasionally includes some other people (and excludes some of the people named above) if they're convening about something more policy-area specific than "some of our dudes got killed."

It's not a damn secret, and it's not "so-called" anything.

...Fucking reporters.

Every single one of those people would be willing to falsify the story in the exact way that it was falsified. They're that kind of scumbags.

But Petraeus probably did it himself. He's a true believer.

Posted by: oblig. at November 19, 2012 03:28 PM (cePv8)

75 you guys may recall a scene is a move called ARGO?

*spoiler*

Where the operation is shut down and the CIA Deputy Direction of Operations tracks down some suit in the White House to get approval so the mission wouldn't go down in flames?

Gee???????????

Any similarities, any differences to what happened in banghazi?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 19, 2012 03:29 PM (QxSug)

76 "How did Stone go into the Army during Viet Nam, get a bronze star and be back out on the street in just 15 months?"

Same unit as Al Gore and John Kerry?

Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 19, 2012 03:29 PM (pkkxZ)

77 White House changes talking points. Women and children hardest hit. Plans are in the works to expand the Food Stamp program to address the situation. Unicorn giveaway to be delayed again.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 19, 2012 03:32 PM (71LDo)

78
Al Gork claimed combat experience, but was actually a typewriter maven who completed a 12-month tour in 7-months with the aid of his Senator father who didn't want little Al to be exposed to the harshness of "combat operations." Gork asked daddy to make it go away and let him go home.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 19, 2012 03:32 PM (lDWQr)

79 too bad no eyewitnesses survived to tell us what happened.

oh, wait...

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 19, 2012 03:35 PM (EZl54)

80 As been said multiple times, to probably 60-70% of the electorate, for all they know Ben Ghazi is the name of new hip actor or American Idol contestant.

This is something that happened long ago in a far off place. Out of sight, out of mind. I think Fast and Furious and the bankrupted Green companies slush funds should be our focus for political purposes. Of course we should continue with the Benghazi investigation because its the right thing to do. There will be no political benefit from it regardless of what Reid thinks.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2012 03:35 PM (m2CN7)

81 Obama only cares about Julia!!!!

Posted by: Clemenza at November 19, 2012 03:35 PM (rF5tz)

82
I could solve a lot of America's problems.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at November 19, 2012 03:36 PM (lDWQr)

83 Fine

all this about who told her to lie

How about getting to what we were doing in Benghazi?

Why didn't we have adequate security there?

Why did "we" ignore their pleas for help?

Why wasn't the military in a state of alert on Sept 11th?

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:36 PM (Dnbau)

84
and what about the Other Huge Lie??

the lie Hillary Clinton told about Stevens being "helped" to the hospital by all those nice Libyans

that lie really pisses me off

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:37 PM (v8xyR)

85 Oh

and Shep Smith is an asshole and an ignoramous

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:37 PM (Dnbau)

86 O/T: Just had to share...

Apparently we need some data (around 2 TB) from one of our vendors. Now, the way people normally handle data transfers that big is to drop the data onto a hard-drive, and then overnight it to wherever it needs to go (even at good business class FTP speeds we're talking a couple of days to send it over the wire).

For some reason, the vendor refuses to do so, however, and is insisting we use FTP for the transfer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:38 PM (8y9MW)

87 Unfortunate that a Senator can't request a list of CIA-State personnel assigned to Benghazi at the time, request current locations and hop on a plane to wherever those individuals are located now.

too bad.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 19, 2012 03:38 PM (EZl54)

88 I woke up this morning thinking about some of this shit and was struck with the realization: this is only the stuff we KNOW about. And we can't even hang that on the prick.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 19, 2012 03:38 PM (9ghZ6)

89

Bleh. Where's my free shit?

Posted by: SEIU Lady at November 19, 2012 03:39 PM (Xv7f/)

90 I could solve a lot of America's problems.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at November 19, 2012 03:36 PM (lDWQr)

Sure is getting crowded in here.

Posted by: Math at November 19, 2012 03:40 PM (JGfaj)

91
Nobody has even thought of asking Hillary Clinton why she said that Stevens was being helped when it was obvious he was being dragged?

This lie combined with the video lie is what's behind all of it -- the whole stinking cover up.

Clinton and Obama were covering for the friggin Libyan rebels! And they were covering for Al Qaeda!

It was all just about a blasphemous video. The libyans are nice people and they love us. My ass.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:40 PM (v8xyR)

92 "Why didn't we see much stronger and immediate pushback from CIA?"

How would we have known of this pushback from the CIA? If the CIA called up their usual contacts in the press and told them that Obama was lying, who would have told us about it?

The press made it clear from the very start that they were not going to report anything about Libya or Egypt that was damaging to the Obama. Would you risk your CIA career to leak information to these people, knowing firsthand how deeply they'd aligned themselves with the President's campaign?

Posted by: GalosGann at November 19, 2012 03:40 PM (T3KlW)

93 For some reason, the vendor refuses to do so, however, and is insisting we use FTP for the transfer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:38 PM (8y9MW)

Maybe that article Ace posted earlier was right. I mean, 1000 years ago they would've known just to overnight it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 19, 2012 03:40 PM (da5Wo)

94 Sure is getting crowded in here.

You're telling me.

Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (8y9MW)

95 But... blither blather blabbity blub.

Posted by: David Gregory at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (wAQA5)

96 #84: makes you realize there is no God as she would surely have been struck by a lightning bolt from on high for that statement.

Posted by: ejo at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (GXvSO)

97 OT: I'm making my make ahead turkey gravy and damn, it smells soooo good! I may just make the whole damn meal and eat it before Thursday.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (X6akg)

98 None of this makes one fucking bit of difference to the libs,MSM

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (R8hU8)

99 Ourproblem with the whole situation, including Benghazi and FF? We've been cowed by political correctness to be nice. You know, everyone hates a bully.

Marxists understand only one thing. Force.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:42 PM (whJ33)

100
A bit off-topic, but funny:

I work for a bank, and a liberal customer was complaining to me about these "right-wing nutjobs standing outside her post office with signs with Obama with a Hitler mustache." I didn't have the heart to tell her they were actually left-wingers (I also didn't want to get caught talking politics on the job).

Posted by: Jheri Carl at November 19, 2012 03:43 PM (//cIL)

101 The libyans are nice people and they love us. My ass.

Actually, the Libyans (as a rule) do like us. Reading those Benghazi documents, it's pretty clear that, like for a while in Iraq, the people who didn't like us were "foreigners."

It's just that the locals were more afraid of the "foreigners" (that is: terrorists) than they were of us.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:43 PM (8y9MW)

102 Hmm, why wouldn't the CIA push back on the WH version of events?

Why, why why why?

Two words: Illegal detention center.

Also, I can't help but notice the complete absence of time travel on this thread.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 19, 2012 03:44 PM (evdj2)

103 OT: (AP) -- Twinkies won’t die that easily after all. Hostess Brands Inc.
and its second largest union will go into mediation to try and resolve
their differences, meaning the Irving, Texas-based company won’t go out
of business just yet. The news came Monday after Hostess moved to
liquidate and sell off its assets in bankruptcy court citing a crippling
strike last week.

Posted by: grease monkey at November 19, 2012 03:44 PM (VSWPU)

104 You want coverage? We'll give you coverage.

Republicans care only about rich people.

There.

Benghazi. Completely covered. 360.

Posted by: The Media at November 19, 2012 03:44 PM (Xv7f/)

105
Libyans love us!

that's why the Pan Am 103 bomber was given a hero's welcome when he returned to Libya

Posted by: soothsayer at November 19, 2012 03:44 PM (v8xyR)

106 Petraeus should have countered Rice's lies 5 minutes after she made them. But he's a man without honor.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 19, 2012 03:45 PM (UU0OF)

107 given the choice between showing they like us and acting like they like jihadis, they chose the latter.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:45 PM (Dnbau)

108 Christopher Stevens died for Barack Obama's sins so that Barack might have everlasting presidency.

Posted by: Book of Obama at November 19, 2012 03:45 PM (7U848)

109 that's why the Pan Am 103 bomber was given a hero's welcome when he returned to Libya

I am loathe to judge their actions when K-Daffy was still alive and in charge.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 19, 2012 03:45 PM (4+LTj)

110 I think the sad fact we are all trying to work our minds around in this instance is that the institution of our media is working to hide any information about this, and the belief that even if it works out that everything the WH said was a complete lie it wouldn't have changed anyone's vote. Our fellow citizens simply do not share our values or belief system in any way that we can recognize.

Posted by: Mr pink at November 19, 2012 03:45 PM (ihmcI)

111 @103: So contrary to bluster, the union leadership actually realized they may have fucked up? Heh.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (B/VB5)

112 I woke up this morning thinking about some of this shit and was struck with the realization: this is only the stuff we KNOW about. And we can't even hang that on the prick.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 19, 2012 03:38 PM (9ghZ6)

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I've been saying this since 2010.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (whJ33)

113 97
OT: I'm making my make ahead turkey gravy and damn, it smells soooo
good! I may just make the whole damn meal and eat it before Thursday.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 03:41 PM (X6akg

Whoa....not fair. Make ahead?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (UOM48)

114 given the choice between showing they like us and acting like they like jihadis, they chose the latter.

Like I said. More afraid of them than us.

Like all those kids who "like" the poor bullied kid, but won't bother to stand up to the bully.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (8y9MW)

115 Hmm, why wouldn't the CIA push back on the WH version of events?

Why, why why why?

Two words: Illegal detention center.

at the JEFs order, although he will throw CIA under the bus and in prison if it were acknowledged

remember they said they were gonna jail CIA who properly used inhanced interrogation techniques

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:47 PM (Dnbau)

116 Meet the Press? Was that Diane Feinstein or a wax dummy? It kind of talked so maybe it was Diane. She looked embalmed.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (wAQA5)

117 Whoa....not fair. Make ahead?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (UOM4

Yeah....since I've found this recipe it's changed my T-day. Not only do you have more than enough gravy (I always seemed to not have enough before) but you don't have to do the mad dash to make gravy after the turkey is done.
Want me to e-mail you the recipe?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (X6akg)

118 WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEE????

Posted by: Captain Twinkie at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (F6KtL)

119 You know, that pic on Drudge of Krugman clutching his pussy never gets old.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (UOM48)

120 I doubt this is going to delay the implementation of the 91% top marginal rate. I'm no longer capable of getting worked up about anything that fails to change my expatriation schedule.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at November 19, 2012 03:50 PM (SDkq3)

121 I think Fast and Furious and the bankrupted Green
companies slush funds should be our focus for political purposes.Posted by: polynikes

Why the need to 'pick one?'

The Left didn't really narrow their attacks on BOOOSH! They turned on the shit-cannons and ran them night and day. None of the attacks were individually effective but the accumulated layer of shit turned Booosh into the lowest rate pres in our recent history.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2012 03:50 PM (ON54M)

122 This is not brain surgery. This admin refuses to use the words "war", "terror", "terrorism", or "Muslims" in the same sentence and sometimes at all. And any set of facts or narrative that runs counter to that is shit bagged. It's been like that since the beginning and it is not going to change still a nuclear device goes off over or in an American City.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2012 03:50 PM (jE38p)

123 Want me to e-mail you the recipe?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (X6akg

Yes!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:50 PM (UOM48)

124 I doubt this is going to delay the implementation of the 91% top
marginal rate. I'm no longer capable of getting worked up about anything
that fails to change my expatriation schedule.

If anyone even makes official noises about that, I think I'm joining the "let it burn" crowd and moving out to the family farm.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:51 PM (8y9MW)

125 Ben Ghazi, wasn't he in the fugitive or something?

Posted by: Charlie Gisbon at November 19, 2012 03:51 PM (I7O5y)

126 MFM: This was not an important election issue. Now Mitt Romney forcing Sandy Fuck into a binder, that was a really important issue

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2012 03:52 PM (1Jaio)

127 Like I said. More afraid of them than us.Like all those kids who "like" the poor bullied kid, but won't bother to stand up to the bully.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:46 PM (8y9MW)

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What's sad is when the bully comes after them, they still won't change their actions. They may make a couple of limp-wristed, feeble attempts at defense, but then they'll just fall to their knees and surrender. Such is our nation.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 03:52 PM (whJ33)

128 Nominating Susan Rice was bound to meet heavy resistance. This is obvious to all, including the WH.

So by putting her name out there, she'll be shot down by the GOP, making it harder for them to object to O's next candidate. Who could be someone worse than Rice, and his intended nominee all along.

Too cynical, not too cynical, or tin-foil hat territory? I can't tell the difference anymore.

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2012 03:53 PM (F3s39)

129 What's sad is when the bully comes after them, they still won't change
their actions. They may make a couple of limp-wristed, feeble attempts
at defense, but then they'll just fall to their knees and surrender.
Such is our nation.

So it makes me odd that the one time the bully picked on one of my friends, I grabbed him by the throat and squeezed until his knees buckled?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:53 PM (8y9MW)

130 So it makes me odd that the one time the bully
picked on one of my friends, I grabbed him by the throat and squeezed
until his knees buckled?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:53 PM (8y9MW)

No, it makes you a man.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (da5Wo)

131 The truth is very simple. Take anything the SCOAMF says, turn it 180 degrees, and that's the truth.

Now the better question is, why would Ms. Rice not ASK before she spoke to the public? Oh yeah, because she had been TOLD by her WH overlords what to say. Gosh, what a surprise. She's Jay Carney redux.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (ZOUmX)

132 Surprise, surprise!

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (f9c2L)

133 Our fellow citizens simply do not share our values or belief system in any way that we can recognize.

I would include sanity in that list.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (EZl54)

134 you don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (Dnbau)

135 #128 I am convinced it will be John Kerry. They are setting it up so we will be relieved that Kerry doesn't get defense, and he will be an acceptable alternative to Rice.

PLUS they will then get to tar us with "racism" because Rice was opposed. They already started that today with a group of black House members, led by Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 19, 2012 03:55 PM (GoIUi)

136 Witnesses and Republicans: "Truth, truth, truth, truth"

Democrats: "Spin, deny, spin, deny"

Media: "Spin, deny, spin, deny"

Public: "The President, he looks KUU-UUUHL!"

Posted by: edj at November 19, 2012 03:56 PM (+QKfp)

137
OT
Heh. Click me nic....

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (OlN4e)

138 And the bottom line? Obama, Holder and Jarret will look straight into the camera and say, "fuck you."

Then Boehner will start sobbing.

This is where we are.

Posted by: Barakatemydog at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (qBLA2)

139

Rep. Mike Rogers...gives me hope that there is, in fact, some intelligence in the House Intelligence Committee.

Posted by: wheatie at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (ICEh3)

140 somebody has talked the the 30 people that were rescued. One of them is gonna talk

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (Dnbau)

141 Want me to e-mail you the recipe?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 03:49 PM (X6akg

Me too....pretty please :O)

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (JWLqy)

142 Too cynical, not too cynical, or tin-foil hat territory? I can't tell the difference anymore.
Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2012 03:53 PM (F3s39)

You called it. It's a twofer: Rice's nomination to State paves the way for Obama's real choice and also makes the GOP look like it's hatin' on black women, as well.

Credit where it's due: Someone known or unknown in Democratic Party leadership knows how to play the most effectively Machiavellian game I've ever seen in American politics. I can't imagine President Obama is the brains behind this outfit, but whoever it is, is good at it.

Posted by: troyriser at November 19, 2012 03:59 PM (vtiE6)

143 I have this strange notion that whenever someone is assiduously working against the truth, the truth probably does not favor that person.

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 19, 2012 03:59 PM (VtjlW)

144 Heh. Click me nic....

"What? I sneezed as I pulled the trigger. It was just an innocent mistake. If their high-priced equipment weren't flying where we were shooting I wouldn't have hit it."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:59 PM (8y9MW)

145 > For some reason, the vendor refuses to do so, however, and is insisting we use FTP for the transfer.

2TB? A database dump or something? You just now there's confidential crap in there too.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at November 19, 2012 03:59 PM (ZWvOb)

146 So it makes me odd that the one time the bully picked on one of my friends, I grabbed him by the throat and squeezed until his knees buckled?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 03:53 PM (8y9MW)

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I would never doubt that coming from you, Allen. It's the guy standing next to you, and the other and the other. See what I'm getting at?

When the bully is really fucking big (like our federal government) and can't be brought down by any one person, how do you convince the others to help?

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:00 PM (whJ33)

147 Testing my hash, new modem

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 19, 2012 04:00 PM (wR+pz)

148
Everybody knew what it was within a couple of hours of the attack starting. They knew. I knew when I heard there was an attack FFS.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (3BbLJ)

149 And to top it off, as obama strolls around burma, they are putting tremendous pressure on Israel to not invade Gaza and are consulting with their good friends in Turkey and Egypt. The world is turned upside down and inside out .

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (jE38p)

150 Yes!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 03:50 PM (UOM4

Done!

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (X6akg)

151 Don't look at me.

Posted by: David Axelrod at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (BVkEs)

152 Same hash. Faster, got Motorola Docsis 3.00

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (wR+pz)

153 Example #2348876 in the pussification of America.

College football player quits after coach yells at him then posts his "feelings" on Tumblr.

http://tinyurl.com/cweo9pp

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 19, 2012 04:02 PM (tf9Ne)

154 Me too....pretty please :O)

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 19, 2012 03:57 PM (JWLqy)

kawfytawk, I need your e-mail addy.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:02 PM (X6akg)

155 Testing my hash, new modem

wR+pz ? I give it a 5.8, though I say it as shouldn't.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 19, 2012 04:03 PM (evdj2)

156 2TB? A database dump or something? You just now there's confidential crap in there too.

Yeah. Oh, better, they want us to us SFTP, not just regular FTP. So, more secure, also: yet slower. Not a huge difference for something that's a few K to 1 MB. 2TB? Geez o Petes.

When the bully is really fucking big (like our federal government) and
can't be brought down by any one person, how do you convince the others
to help?

I've actually got some thoughts on that. If I take them to their logical conclusion (and don't decide to head for the hills), it means I may have to join the second most evil profession ever, and become a politician.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:03 PM (8y9MW)

157 I hate these assholes. And I hate the fact that enough people voted for him to give him another fucking term. Time for another beer.

Posted by: Adam is drinking at the beach at November 19, 2012 04:03 PM (+oPN1)

158 149 -

On the brighter side, he sure is acting more heterosexual over there than he does over here. Turns out he actually DOES like women, just not white or black women.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2012 04:03 PM (TOk1P)

159 it is not going to change still a nuclear device goes off over or in an American City.

It won't change then, either, unless the city is either DC or San Francisco. Otherwise, we'll be told we "deserved it."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2012 04:04 PM (P7hip)

160 This is only an issue because Susan Rice is a minority woman, woman of color, and etc.
I see a definite caricature gap coming into play here.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 19, 2012 04:04 PM (eEfYn)

161 Was looking on Wikipedia and just noticed Susan Rice's husband is a news producer for ABC. Nothing like the foxes guarding the hen house huh?

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at November 19, 2012 04:04 PM (ZWvOb)

162 me love you long time

it had to be said

Posted by: Thunderb at November 19, 2012 04:05 PM (Dnbau)

163 OT
Heh. Click me nic....

This must be why the Sea Shepherd dorks don't paint their ships to look like whales.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2012 04:05 PM (QKKT0)

164 Geez Allen what you some kinda girlie bandwidth or something? Get a big ass pipe and quitcherbitchin.

Posted by: Golan Globus at November 19, 2012 04:05 PM (/1U3u)

165

kawfytawk, I need your e-mail addy.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:02 PM (X6akg)

my nic at hotmail

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 19, 2012 04:06 PM (JWLqy)

166 I've actually got some thoughts on that. If I take them to their logical conclusion (and don't decide to head for the hills), it means I may have to join the second most evil profession ever, and become a politician.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:03 PM (8y9MW)

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Or a general.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:07 PM (whJ33)

167 Geez Allen what you some kinda girlie bandwidth or something? Get a big ass pipe and quitcherbitchin.

Not my call.

And two 2TB? People with dedicated fiber connections drop that kind of stuff on hard drives and ship it. That's an insane amount of data to try to move over the wire.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:07 PM (8y9MW)

168 Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:07 PM (whJ33)

Naaa. No way I'd ever be military enough.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:07 PM (8y9MW)

169 OT: Stopped clock rule. Marion Barry is right:

"MARION BARRY: Only 'Liberal White Folks' Care Who Pays for My Turkey Giveaway..."

Yup. The only thing they care about is free turkey. Who pays for it is of absolutely no concern.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2012 04:08 PM (Hx5uv)

170 Once again however, the REAL question is what was the administration covering up?

Why do this at all when the Prezzy could have Man'd up, called in the Dogs, and looked all Presidential?

I don't buy the 'it was the narrative that Al Q was on the ropes'... because it would be Bambi look BETTER to go all Rambo...

I still want to know what the Ambassador was doing there... and what the meeting with the Turk was ABOUT.... and just what the CIA annex was there for???

I think we had an accredited ambassador helping to run guns into Syria, at the same time we were trying to get the UN to do an Arms embargo... which was the reason for the intial reaction (or lack thereof) and coverup....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2012 04:08 PM (lZBBB)

171 Was looking on Wikipedia and just noticed Susan Rice's husband is a news producer for ABC. Nothing like the foxes guarding the hen house huh?
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at November 19, 2012 04:04 PM (ZWvOb)

Didn't even know she was married. I would have guessed she was on the other team?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2012 04:08 PM (jE38p)

172 Naaa. No way I'd ever be military enough.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:07 PM (8y9MW)

------------------------------------------------

Are you familier at all with the "old" US Army Reserve? They weren't all that military, but they certainly turned out to be damn good warriors.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:10 PM (whJ33)

173 my nic at hotmail

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 19, 2012 04:06 PM (JWLqy)

Done too!

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:11 PM (X6akg)

174 #135 #128 I am convinced it will be John Kerry. They are setting it up so we
will be relieved that Kerry doesn't get defense, and he will be an
acceptable alternative to Rice.
--

I think you nailed it.

I'd love to hear a GOP point out what O is doing. Reveal the tactic and neutralize it. There are ways to do it without making a flat-out accusation (for which there is usually no smoking gun proof).

Repeat this strategy enough and some of the public will start to catch on. That the GOP does not speak out forcefully against
the tactics and abuses of the O administration is as astounding as it is sad.

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2012 04:11 PM (F3s39)

175 heh A sharpshooter er "shark"shooter

Posted by: wierd flunky at November 19, 2012 04:12 PM (X+nFp)

176 They weren't all that military, but they certainly turned out to be damn good warriors.

I dunno about warrior. I suspect I could do that if I had to. Generaling is a different matter though.

Of course, George Washington lost pretty well all of his battles in the French and Indian war, and the Continental Congress chose him to lead the Army anyway, and that seems to have worked out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 19, 2012 04:12 PM (8y9MW)

177 I work at a major site of American infrastructure. Lets just say megawatts out the ass. This past 9/11 me and a coworker accessed the site as we do on a regular basis.

We were greeted at the gate by our regular security guys. Except, they were armoured up in full gear including Glocks andM-4s. One guy covered our official vehicle while another checked the undercarridge with the mirror. We were cleared to enter and were greeted by first name by the guards. Just doing their jobs but, they were prepared for jihadi tomfoolery. Why wasn't Ben Ghazi?? Did somebody forget about time zones, or leap year or Daylight savings Time??

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at November 19, 2012 04:13 PM (yvSVk)

178 @3 Nah, he's actually doing a pretty good job of it.

Posted by: Gerry at November 19, 2012 04:14 PM (lNrX+)

179 Why do all the black women in the o admin look, so, well, White?

Posted by: Barakatemydog at November 19, 2012 04:15 PM (qBLA2)

180 Done too!

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:11 PM (X6akg)

Got it...thanks!

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 19, 2012 04:15 PM (JWLqy)

181 137
OT
Heh. Click me nic....

---

Dammit, I'm still pulling too far to the left when I shot.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2012 04:18 PM (e0xKF)

182 By 2016 or even by 2014 we may be witnessing another world war. So much of what we think is important now may be moot in two to four years.But I'm an optomist.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:22 PM (whJ33)

183 optomist = optimist

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2012 04:23 PM (whJ33)

184 So now we know that the talking points were dilluded....WHO CARES.... WHO GAVE THE ORDER TO STAND DOWN???? I don't care if Rice was accurate, Obama still knew that it was a terrorist attack from the beginning.... the distraction is working and everyone is falling in line.... nothing sticks with this guy

Posted by: mkn at November 19, 2012 04:29 PM (SXu8/)

185 Barack Obama is a good man, a decent man, a man you shouldn't be afraid of. I can't think of one really wrong thing in his life that he's done. He's just a little out of his depth with this economic stuff, and I believe that's the only issue in this election.

Posted by: The Echo of Mitt Romney at November 19, 2012 04:31 PM (Pi/la)

186 Done!

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:01 PM (X6akg)

Thanks! Now how about coming over and polishing my silver?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 04:32 PM (UOM48)

187 Thanks! Now how about coming over and polishing my silver?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2012 04:32 PM (UOM4

No way! Go easy on yourself....use your everyday stuff.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2012 04:34 PM (X6akg)

188 By 2016 or even by 2014 we may be witnessing another world war. So much
of what we think is important now may be moot in two to four years.But
I'm an optomist.
--

Agree, I've been thinking we're headed towards another WW since about 2009 or 2010. The worldwide economic problems including our massive debt, high unemployment and O's continuous damage, the Europe and mideast instability, and the spread of jihadists, you mix it all up and what other option is there for a major re-set? The problems aren't going to be solved by politicians since they are the cause.

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2012 04:34 PM (F3s39)

189 Give it a few more weeks, and we'll find out the Mossad warned us of this attack two months in advance.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2012 04:35 PM (mqdAz)

190 "But I have to wonder, are there going to be *any* repercussions to this?
It's a coverup of the highest order, way worse than the whole Valerie
Plame bullshit."

No, there will be no repercussions. Because the media will bury this deep: no Woodwards or Bernsteins will be digging into this story. No, they'll stick to the stuff that *really* matters, like Sarah Palin's emails and Mitt Romney's tax return.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 19, 2012 04:40 PM (VrNoa)

191 One thing I'm curious about is why Amb Stevens would go to Benghazi on 9/11 when he of all people knew how bad the security situation was there, and with so little protection. (I don't mean the purpose of his visit, separate issue).

He'd been expressing his fears and asking for more security for months. So from the standpoint of his own personal safety, what could possibly make him agree to going to Benghazi on 9/11?

Did he have a reason to believe he would be safe? (really?....on 9/11?....with AQ in the area?...NOTHING could have convinced me it would be safe if I were in his shoes.) What legitimate or illegitimate business could not have waited until 9/12, one more day?

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2012 04:43 PM (F3s39)

192 Ace, new meme: What didn't Obama know and when didn't he know it?

Posted by: Uncle Miltie F. at November 19, 2012 04:53 PM (/W9ou)

193 I'm not religious, but the "science" crowd (in quotations because most people who profess to adhering to reason and science in fact do neither and are just as dogmatic about what must be accepted and not questioned as religious people) has become such assholes and bigots that i really, really don't want to be associated with them at all.

Posted by: booger at November 19, 2012 04:55 PM (HI6wa)

194 Oops, wrong thread, pardon my dumbassery.

Posted by: booger at November 19, 2012 04:58 PM (HI6wa)

195 I could give a crap about the message being changed. I want to know who left the Americans to die when there were assets available to help them.

Posted by: OldSarg at November 19, 2012 05:43 PM (SLKUT)

196 I myself am headingto Morocco for some delicious mint tea.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 19, 2012 05:55 PM (qwK3S)

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