What Has Happened To Little Green Footballs?

What was once a must read blog for news and analysis on my rss feed has recently become a once or twice a day stop and that's only for the car crash quality of it all.

Today's head shaking moment comes from a post entitled "Limbaugh Stuck On Fail". Charles seems genuinely confused that some people might actually say out loud they don't want Sotomayor confirmed to the Supreme Court.

It seems that for a democracy to function there needs to be at least two parties who articulate their differences. The idea that partisans of either party wants the other to fail is baked into the cake.

I know Barack Obama wanted John Roberts and Sam Alito to fail in their confirmation efforts. How do I know this? He voted against them. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, it's all part of the give and take of public discourse. Just as there's nothing wrong with Limbaugh or my wish to see Sotomayor fail in her bid for confirmation.

Equally confounding is Charles' contention in the comments of that thread that

Barack Obama ran on a platform of sheer positive messages. Not once did he wish for the other side to fail. You're just wrong to claim that negativity is winning strategy. One of the big reasons why Obama won was because he did NOT go negative -- ever.

Really? This will of course come as news to anyone who followed the campaign last year. Even the Washington Post noticed.

How about, just to pick one of many examples, when Obama accused President Bush and John McCain of "fear mongering"?

Or the distortions of McCain's words.

The list could go on and on.

I really don't have a dog (or monkey) in all the creationist stuff but while it's certainly Charles' right to post on whatever the hell he wants, the constant harping and disdain for others is off putting.

Sadly I can only conclude there's no room for me anymore under LGF's big tent.

Posted by: DrewM. at 06:45 PM




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1 Surely at this point Chuck is reaching Sully levels of trolling for attention?

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 06:49 PM (1wXl7)

2 (i.e. should we really be linking him?)

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 06:49 PM (1wXl7)

3 I feel the same way. LGF used to be one of my favorites after Ace and Rusty.

I agree with his general anti-creationist feelings, but damn, dude!

He also makes me feel bad for thinking that nationalistic, racist, far right European political parties might have a bit of a point, even if they are dicks about it.

Posted by: jason at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (EKNoo)

4 And look at all the pussies over there tiptoe on eggshells to avoid disagreeing with Charles and getting banned.

Oh my! Mustn't upset Sensitive Ponytail Guy!

He needs to ride his bicycle into a pile of sharp, rusty junk metal.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (xGIqT)

5 "What has happened to LGF?"

What did LGF ever consist of? Why is this a question? Did he ever cut his hair? Or was it all a quest for adulation by an aging hippy with a spare server in his closet?

The mind boggles.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (BRTk9)

6 Not sure what's happened over there. All I know is I used to read and post regularly, and then just got completely turned off, and rarely visit the site.

I think LGF and Charles have gone off the wagon.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2009 06:50 PM (OKZrE)

7 LGF's tent is about the size of Johnson's shriveled package.

Posted by: ECM at May 27, 2009 06:51 PM (q3V+C)

8 perhaps LGF thinks its codswallop has no detectable odor whatsoever.

Posted by: Jones at May 27, 2009 06:52 PM (KOkrW)

9 "I really don't have a dog (or monkey) in all the creationist stuff but while it's certainly Charles' right to post on whatever the hell he wants, the constant harping and disdain for others is off putting.
Sadly I can only conclude there's no room for me anymore under LGF's big tent."
Now I do have a "dog" as it were in the creationist crap, but I don't really care what other people believe. Reading Chuckle's childish rants about people who don't agree PRECISELY with him is why I told him and LGF to go fuck themselves and walked away from LGF completely...

Posted by: experience smeperience at May 27, 2009 06:52 PM (HFodE)

10 And no grown man should have a ponytail. Ponytails are for HS cheerleaders.

Posted by: Jones at May 27, 2009 06:54 PM (KOkrW)

11 I posted over there for 5-6 years. One day Chas started a thread that defended his constant "evolution" topics. I chipped in by saying that as someone with several advanced degrees in the subject, I got a little tired of being lectured to by a layman. Hit me with the big ban stick. He's an ass who takes too many drugs.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 27, 2009 06:55 PM (tzZFG)

12 Once you remove the posts on:

1. Creationism is teh retard!, and
2. These anti-jihad guys over there are fascists, stay away!

There is not much left for LGF. It gets really redundant. I've now completely dropped it from my daily search. Charles Johnson's posts have become as predictable as a Marmaduke punchline.


Posted by: Tim Geitner at May 27, 2009 06:55 PM (2p0e3)

13 as far as the creation thing goes, everybody knows the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle

Posted by: Jones at May 27, 2009 06:55 PM (KOkrW)

14 Charles Johnson - a poor man's Andrew Sullivan. He'll be throwing hissy fits about waterboarding and Bristol Palin next.

Posted by: packsoldier at May 27, 2009 06:55 PM (+H0Cs)

15 Even I think he's gone nuts!

Posted by: Ida the lemur at May 27, 2009 06:56 PM (MB+jN)

16 I stopped reading LGF months ago when he started jumping the shark on a regular basis. Now my first stop of the day is Ace.

Posted by: Instinct at May 27, 2009 06:56 PM (woUsF)

17 Sadly I can only conclude there's no room for me anymore under LGF's big tent.
You're just now coming to that conclusion?

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 06:56 PM (voIlD)

18 Drew did you miss the thread here that because commenters were critical of him he went and removed AoS from his blogroll. Not to mention all his sycophants coming over here and demanding Ace tell everyone to stop it. And then there were the people he banned on his website solely for commenting here as well and preferring this to LGF.
I'm sure if you tried to comment there under the name DrewM. and took a viewpoint opposite his he would ban you immediately.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2009 06:56 PM (w9k7q)

19 Oh, and Sharmuta, please stop phoning me at home. It's getting creepy.

Posted by: Ida the lemur at May 27, 2009 06:57 PM (MB+jN)

20 A couple of months ago I set me up a spiffy new personal home page, which I've done several times since first discovering LGF, and for the first time in all those times of setting up new home pages, I deliberately left off the link to LGF, after seeing Charles drift in this direction for months. And I've kept some pretty lame and low-trafficked links in the meantime simply because it's easier to move them than to delete them.

Charles let his disappointment with the GOP turn in to Obama-worship. He let his unease with creationism turn into Christian-bashing. It's the sign of someone who's lost his way, for what reaosn I don't know, and care about less and less as time goes by. This is the nature of most useful things like LGF once was. GM used to make good cars. Atari used to make good video games. Only a few things maintain their quality over the long term. So in this sense, LGF's demise is the rule - something to be expected, not something to be surprised at.

Posted by: G$ at May 27, 2009 06:57 PM (nxYGK)

21 I asked Charles to remove my membership about a month ago.
I am not welcome there.
I always felt I was a pretty reasonable fellow.
There is a paranoia among the membership there. If they are not familiar with you then you are a troll and they will eat you.

Posted by: Steve at May 27, 2009 06:57 PM (lv+sJ)

22 It was ALWAYS a very boring website with drivel for articles and comments.

Posted by: Old Sailor at May 27, 2009 06:58 PM (/Ft4q)

23 I've been wondering about LGF as well. While I'm not interested in his creationist arguments, I rather liked that others could offer links and he had a lively comments section -- at least until recently. That he was an accomplished musician was interesting, that he has a ponytail is irrelevant.

For some reason he blocked my account and apparently I'm not alone. I wrote and asked if there was an issue but received no reply. I guess I just didn't measure up.


Posted by: GuyInSD at May 27, 2009 06:58 PM (sU8Lx)

24 Why would you link to Chuckles?

The only thing stuck on FAIL is his traffic.

Posted by: Max Power at May 27, 2009 06:59 PM (q177U)

25 I think I visit there once a week or so now, if I think to. In its heyday it was a place to exchange idea's, get up to date information. and good political commentary on an hourly basis.

Now? Not so much, one vast echo chamber after the 'bans'. Then again, it's his site and he can do as he damn well pleases. It's still moderately good for ME info, but only from their perspective.

I wish him well, but he can do it without me. I have views that aren't 'moderate' or 'middle of the road'. I guess I'm hard core when it comes to freedom and its defense.

Posted by: Gmac at May 27, 2009 07:00 PM (0VQYJ)

26 cj is a douche bag and his site is filled with a bunch of cocksucking ass lickers.
i troll huffingglade or kooksfor mytrainwreckfix over giving that shit head one page view.

Posted by: evil libertarian at May 27, 2009 07:00 PM (z2yq0)

27 Left months ago...from a daily must-read to total turn-off...and yes, I know he does not care.

Posted by: Jamie Gumm at May 27, 2009 07:01 PM (qSsXb)

28 #26! Well! That is strong language!

Posted by: Steve at May 27, 2009 07:02 PM (lv+sJ)

29 12
Once you remove the posts on:1. Creationism is teh retard!, and2. These anti-jihad guys over there are fascists, stay away!There is not much left for LGF.
Don't forget the ever popular...

3. Morning/afternoon/evening open thread.

These three categories now comprise 99% of LGF

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2009 07:02 PM (OKZrE)

30 I can't stand Charles Johnson. The lengths he will go to smear conservatives, libertarians, and republicansis really annoying. He'll take things out of context and then use the old guilt by casual association tacticevery time. Race card, always. The old pony tail guy is a hard leftist.And his obsession with creationism... Who cares?

Posted by: Sledgehammer at May 27, 2009 07:03 PM (Mf1wW)

31 Chuckie's Fonzi on skis moment came when he put up a file of GW Bush bending over to receive a medal from the Saudi King as the same as Oblammo bowing . I instantly deleted LGF from my bookmarks. Dude is out there.

Posted by: Dr. Carlo Lombardi at May 27, 2009 07:04 PM (pbXAm)

32 Lol, we a certainly guaranteed a "heads exploding" response over this.

He seems to want creationist theory to fail. Cognitive dissonance anyone?

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 07:04 PM (2RAD8)

33 CJ sees Nazis and Creationists (interchangeable in his mind) under every rock. His blog existsanymore merely to placate a bootlicking collective of braying sycophants. It's become what he was once fairly adept at ridiculing: the Daily Kos.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:04 PM (voIlD)

34 CJ: "Barack Obama ran on a platform of sheer positive messages."

Granting to you for the sake of argument that that is true even though it provably isn't, Obama had a team of surrogates, aka the establishment, enchanted press, to act as both guard dog for him and attack dog against critics. The GOP generally didn't even if it had radio and FOXNews partially in its corner. That is why Obama could be all hope-n-change and nothing more... even though he actually was more and not all positive.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 27, 2009 07:05 PM (swuwV)

35 Yep, used to check it a few times a day. I havent been back since early December

Posted by: Chris at May 27, 2009 07:05 PM (jhNhK)

36 I got tired of the repeated creationist threads, but the attack on the Tea Parties was just dumb... Charles saw frothing Nazis at every turn and no amount of actual observation could calm him down.

I had inhabited the morning open thread for years with an enjoyable crew. But that didn't make up for it, so I gave up.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at May 27, 2009 07:07 PM (MCHyX)

37 Oooh, just wait til you get the "You are an Idiot" redirect.

Posted by: Druid at May 27, 2009 07:07 PM (nFeDb)

38 I'll give Chuckles props: it was a fair blog in it's time. It's meanwhile turned into a People's Assembly For The Worship of The UnBarbered Bicyclist.

He's an ass, and should fade into the ignominous ether where such asses go.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 07:07 PM (BRTk9)

39 Yup. CJ is off my list, too. I may visit his site once a week if I think of it, or if there is an interesting link to his blog on some other blog I visit.

It's not like it used to be. He used to be in my 'golden ten', but not anymore.

Oh well, time goes on and moss grows on things that don't move.

Posted by: Dysfunctional at May 27, 2009 07:08 PM (FTiH0)

40 I haven't even stopped by the site in 4 or 5 months. His site used to be a good resource for info re: Islamofascism and, of course, he did great work on the TANG memo, but his constant harping on creationism and his petty battles with other sites took over his mind and website.

Posted by: 4thGenerationBuck at May 27, 2009 07:08 PM (AtjNL)

41 Does CJ really think that appealing to CJ is the best way to rebuild the Republican Party? Seriously, he talks like he's some purge victim or something, but he's like King Purge of the Interwebz.

His Sotomayor defense attempts are retarded. His comments to others questioning his logic are even more retarded. So long, CJ. See you after the next attack.

Posted by: bunny boy at May 27, 2009 07:09 PM (YsSn7)

42 Astounding. For a brief time, it was fashionable to have been banned from LGF. But now, frankly, I would rather nobody know I was ever there in the first place. WTF was I thinking ?

Posted by: Mike C. at May 27, 2009 07:09 PM (USTBq)

43 I posted under this near for years. I have stopped visiting. It has shifted focus entirely. Once it was a magnifying glass turned on the War on Terror. Now it is merely looking glass that Charles stares into.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at May 27, 2009 07:10 PM (OkrJ4)

44 Heh..I was wondering the same thing: What happened to LGF? And this thread came up.

I'm a long time [about to become former] lizard and just don't enjoy going there much anymore. Seems like the place is going in a direction I choose not to go.

I've read that CJ is banning lots of folks who disagree with him, weird.


Posted by: jett at May 27, 2009 07:10 PM (UYngt)

45 Johnson is full aware that his blog is being abandoned by former members, thus his attempts to appear more "moderate" and appealing to those Leftists who once ridiculed him for being an "anti-Muslim racist." It's a recruiting maneuver, a desperate attempt to remain relevant in the blogosphere.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:10 PM (voIlD)

46 CJ: "Barack Obama ran on a platform of sheer positive messages."


ahahahahahahahahahaahahaaha sucker.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 07:10 PM (vZVv7)

47 this name*

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at May 27, 2009 07:11 PM (OkrJ4)

48 Yeah, I kinda wasn't one of the leaders on this.

Let's make bitch jokes.

Posted by: Douglas at May 27, 2009 07:12 PM (uU+Ss)

49 OT: Heh

Fox is runniing this headline: Auto Experts or Amateurs?"Obama's auto task force makes big decisions but many in Congress are troubled by its lack of experience"

Double HEH....If Congress notices.......

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (BRTk9)

50 Only person who can compete with chuck on self righteousness is Pam, and maybe duncan black in his prime.

Posted by: Douglas at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (uU+Ss)

51 I only found LGF several months back, but found it to be boring from the get go. AoSHQ is the place I visit more times a day than I can count. My first stop, actually.

Alas, being a hatchling isn't in my future.

Posted by: Twinks at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (QPFLO)

52 Someone posted in a thread from while ago his site traffic. Anyone still have that information?

BTW, to make a LFG approved positive point, I truly think AoS has greatly improved since I first started viewing. I will always give LGF some props, if nothing else for helping to puting Dan Rather in his place and introducing me the Morons.

Despite that one Saturday night thread that shall never be spoken of again...

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 07:14 PM (2RAD8)

53 Let's not forget why Charles de-listed Ace of Spades from its blogroll a few months back: because the admins here would not immediately delete negative comments (not posts, comments) about Charles or LGF. Yeah, that's right. Because Ace didn't implement a fascist speech code condemning all criticism of Charles Johnson, Chuckie declared AoS an "enemy blog" full of "stalkers".

Charles Johnson is the new Andrew Sullivan. Weapons Grade Crazy.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 07:15 PM (urD6A)

54 LGF went downhill when it stopped being about the WoT and started being about Charles.

I used to post there many years ago (Ask me about globular clusters), but I haven't visited the site in well over a year now.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:15 PM (QYuCD)

55 Um. Anybody noticed the mortgage markets vs. treasuries?

It's all falling apart, a Black Wednesday. mortgagenewsdaily has some of it.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at May 27, 2009 07:16 PM (taJZA)

56 Even posting at other sites where other posters insult LGF will lead to banning. One is found guilty of treason by association.

I left because I'm just too conservative, but I never said anything derogatory about LGF, Charles, or any posters. They, however, vilified me.

It wasn't a healthy atmosphere for me, and their behavior when I chose to post elsewhere proved that I made the right choice.

Please, Ace, don't change. That would truly break my heart.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 07:16 PM (vqkDD)

57 "Barack Obama ran on a platform of sheer positive messages. Not once did he
wish for the other side to fail. You're just wrong to claim that negativity is
winning strategy. One of the big reasons why Obama won was because he did NOT go
negative -- ever."



Probablyone of the most dishonest comments you will see on the web.

Johnson probably voted for Obama.Johnson's
always been a far left liberal, when 9/11 happened he took advantage in the same
way that the makers of loose change did.He's just an opportunist that has been
found out through his own words.

Posted by: Ron. at May 27, 2009 07:17 PM (8uOfK)

58 It's crazy there now.If anyone on the right has ever knew someone ,who associated with someone, who's third cousin was once a member in an alleged "racist" political party,they are definitely a FREEKIN NAZI!! But Dear obamas multiple links,associations,and friendships with racists,criminals,terrorists,jihadists and pedophiles dont concern him at all apparently.In fact im sure if you pointed that out over there,youd be banned immediately.wtf....did someone have something on him?reminds of david brock...

Posted by: james at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (3/GXy)

59 18
Drew did you miss the thread here that because commenters were critical of him he went and removed AoS from his blogroll.

Yeah, that was really nutty behavior.

I check LGF several times a week to keep abreast of the intelligent design stuff (I tune out the comments in the threads but follow the links to the primary sources, such as the Texas board of education hearings), but on anything pertaining to partisan politics (such as the Rush thread Drew cites) I find him to be either incredibly naive or ill-informed. Basically, it's a news thread for me on a subject matter of interest -- that's about it.

My first stop is usually AoS, followed by Hot Air.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (sey23)

60 Hit with the ban stick myself for pointing out the absurbness of Charles position on God.
Teaching global warming (a noted hoax) in schools is ok.
Mentioning God in schools, not so much so.

Posted by: gdonovan at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (oBJOd)

61 ditto x 2
It wasn't a healthy atmosphere for me, and their behavior when I chose to post elsewhere proved that I made the right choice.Please, Ace, don't change. That would truly break my heart.

Posted by: PreemptivelyHadEnough at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (oYCaX)

62 LGF has always been merely a hub for links to other, more in-depth sites addressing whatever topic was appealing to CJ. I can't think of any time when I actually read any substantive, original analysis or insight from CJ himself. As an information-gatherer, he was fairly adept -- as an analyst, he was never impressive in the least.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (voIlD)

63 Thread killer:

Q:"What has Happened to Little Green Footballs?"
A: "Who Fucking Cares?"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 27, 2009 07:18 PM (BRTk9)

64 I quit reading LGF when Charles went off on Robert Spencer, the leader of the anti Jihadists on the internet, as a white supremacist with some phony stretched out linkage. I guess he is trying to get a MSNBC show as a "conservative".

Posted by: Dick Nixon at May 27, 2009 07:19 PM (6N6DN)

65 I don't get it either. It's like some internet knee jerk reaction thing. John Cole did the same thing at Balloon-Juice. I have no problem whatsoever with people that dissent from some part of the platform. Against creationism ? Great. I happen to agree. Think the Terry Schiavo incident was horrific ? Yeah, agree there too.

But how does that make one a fan or defender of Barack Obama or one to chronicle every frailty and foible of every GOP candidate or elected official on the planet ?

What I really don't get from Charles is the dissent on Global Warming as if there is any science behind it at this point. People are not skeptical of Global Warming because God told them so. The odd thing is Climate Change Science has a lot more in common with Intelligent Design than Charles wants to admit.

I actually find principled opposition FAR more respectable than this kind of knee-jerk thing.

Posted by: deadrody at May 27, 2009 07:19 PM (TxMs4)

66 I will remember Charles for his excellent work on the Dan Rather/Mary Mapes forgeries. He has also done great work exposing some of the Fauxtography and propaganda of Hezbollah and the Palestinians. He stayed on this stuff until the useful idiots in the press were thoroughly discredited (until the next time).
That said, WTF is going on over there these days? He has me feeling like a White Supremacist just because I visit the blogs he vilifies; Robert Spencer is one of the smartest people on radical Islam that we have. I think CJ has gone crazy in his own little echo chamber.

Posted by: dianainsa at May 27, 2009 07:19 PM (T1f+6)

67 How the mighty have fallen! Like some here, I used to frequent LGF then stopped when I saw the direction CJ was going. Alas, I thought it used to be great, but the whole Bush thing with him accepting the medal being compared to Messiah's "bow" and then the constant advice from the likes of Frum that the Republicans must become more "moderate"..yeah, I think he's jumped the shark.

And Jones, what's the turtle resting on? Why, chaos, of course!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 27, 2009 07:20 PM (otlXg)

68 Reason no. #567289347 to never trust militant Atheists even when they pose as righties.

Posted by: Juicer at May 27, 2009 07:21 PM (auvrx)

69 Colin Powell endorses LGF.

Posted by: Chris Buckley at May 27, 2009 07:21 PM (Vt7r6)

Posted by: Steelez at May 27, 2009 07:22 PM (wovRH)

71 Eye openers....
*asks readers to troll other sites and report if commenters 'go rogue'.
*commenter has 'enemies list' compiled.
Extreme paranoia reigns there, at Jonestown levels.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 07:22 PM (7FgWm)

72 Charlie johnson the man of multiple personalities.

Posted by: Insane Horse at May 27, 2009 07:23 PM (bd6uS)

73 All of you traitorous fuckers can GO PISS UP A ROPE!!

Posted by: Mandy Manners at May 27, 2009 07:23 PM (voIlD)

74 What do you call a person with long hair, no balls, and a penchant for Andrew Sullivan and long lonely bike rides?
A CHICK!
Yeah, Charles contends negativity doesn't win elections. That isunless yourathousand-fold bunchof leftist douchebags spending your entire 8 years of the Bush presidency hating everything about the man and the party and country he represented. The hate seemed to work quite well for the Leftas they undermined two war efforts, a country's sense of self, undermined presidential respect and authority, and won in a cake-walk during the last election.

Posted by: JDW at May 27, 2009 07:23 PM (+WJgT)

75 I lost interest over there when it became all anti-creationist, anti-Beck, anti-Rush, anti-tea party, agree with me or your banned! Muuuwhahahahaa!

Posted by: jett at May 27, 2009 07:23 PM (UYngt)

76 #55

In the end, there will be only financial chaos!

But as to one must do to survive this chaos, I dunno. I'm just some half-naked guy on this topless Titan, (who has D^99 power breasts) carrying this glowing bastard sword, ready to shiv the King of Olympus through his heart.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 27, 2009 07:24 PM (otlXg)

77 Charles johnson is a fatass liberal hack and crazy as a bed bug.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2009 07:24 PM (XooSV)

78 Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!

Posted by: mandy manners at May 27, 2009 07:25 PM (7FgWm)

79 But my tongue only goes so far Charles!!

Posted by: Sharmuta at May 27, 2009 07:26 PM (7FgWm)

80 Put him in the same category as John Cole and Balloon Juice.

We'll always have Rathergate, Charles.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:26 PM (QYuCD)

81 One good thing for LGF though - it lead me to Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 27, 2009 07:27 PM (otlXg)

82 I see in #73 one of LGF crazies just showed up. Damn, and I thought they would be out of KoolAid by now.

Posted by: rightwingva at May 27, 2009 07:27 PM (zuwP9)

83 Obama did not go negative? Remember when he scratched his cheek with his middle finger, smirked, and made a comment about Hillary? And I do believe there were some "lipstick on a pig" comments made by The One.

Posted by: Warm Mountain at May 27, 2009 07:27 PM (eJmkn)

84 "What did LGF ever consist of?"

The best comment site on teh intertubes. With the smartest commenters.

"I only found LGF several months back, but found it to be boring from the get go."

Its heyday was 2002-2003. Not kidding. 2004 wasn't bad either, but the comment section was both too crowded and thinned out (smart people wise).

"I truly think AoS has greatly improved since I first started viewing"

Maybe if you started reading in January...

This is a down phase for right-wing blogs, because there's not a huge amount to do but hunker down and wait. For Ace specifically you should read the 2004 stuff, when he was gut-bustingly funny pretty much all the time.

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 07:27 PM (1wXl7)

85 Obama is NEVER negative? REALLY?

Does President Bush know this?

Posted by: General MacArthur at May 27, 2009 07:28 PM (iafWn)

86 And Jones, what's the turtle resting on? Why, chaos, of course!

No, no, no it's turtles all the way down.

Posted by: Mtenloch at May 27, 2009 07:28 PM (7z9RL)

87 Charles is so self-absorbed there will no doubt be a mention of this post on LGF with himself starring as victim. Last week I heard a kid at a bus stop in Soho briefly mention Charles Johnson was kinda schtoopid. Charles found out, registered him at LGF, banned him, and then contacted his boss to inform the boss that he had an employee who was a creationist nazi. Yes, Charles is now "outing" people.

Posted by: JDW at May 27, 2009 07:29 PM (+WJgT)

88 LGF is still on my list but usually my 30th or so site I visit. One goes for the comments and see how fast and what would be said to be banned. It does not take much.

Posted by: tjexcite at May 27, 2009 07:29 PM (H9CVb)

89 What I really don't get from Charles is the dissent on Global Warming as if there is any science behind it at this point... The odd thing is Climate Change Science has a lot more in common with Intelligent Design than Charles wants to admit.
Posted by: deadrody at May 27, 2009 07:19 PM (TxMs4)

Yeah, you raise an excellent point. He is incredibly ill-informed about global warming. It's almost as if his trying to impress a girlfriend or significant other with how much of a "believer" he is on the subject. He's out of his depth on that one.

There really is a diversity of opinion in the scientific community about man-made global warming, with the trend being towards skepticism, particularly in the geophysics community. Researchers are human -- they'll ride that funding bandwagon that Algore is pushing for as long as it's there (just as many did post 9/11 when money became available for bioterrorism research; I had a colleague who was [jokingly] trying to find an angle to squeeze his research on chickadees into bioterrorism, for Pete's sake!) -- but the geophysicists I've spoken with are not true believers.

Posted by: Y-not at May 27, 2009 07:30 PM (sey23)

90 Took LGF off my feed list about a month ago. Not going back. End of story.

Well, not completely. I once had a friend, not close, but in my circle of friends, who went schizo (medically diagnosed), like BAM!, and he was on another planet. Seems to be the same thing with Charles.


Posted by: West at May 27, 2009 07:30 PM (9BgI6)

91 I do think 2007 was a more recent high point around here. The comprehensive piece of shit coverage (and rantage) was excellent.

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 07:30 PM (1wXl7)

92 "Charles Johnson - a poor man's Andrew Sullivan. He'll be throwing hissy fits about waterboarding and Bristol Palin next."

You're kidding, right? Charles has already declared waterboarding to be dreaded "torture", and the Palins are in his cross hairs as often as possible.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 07:30 PM (urD6A)

93 I write political thrillers with a "difficlt" theme. I sent the first book of the trilogy to Charles and he gave it an enthusiastic writeup in LGF along with a link to Amazon. Drew a couple hundred comments on his site and sold a lot of books. I was grateful. Now I'm kind of... embarressed. I think writers of successful blogs need a group of resident wiseasses to keep them from devolving intotightass schoolmarms.

Posted by: rakkim at May 27, 2009 07:31 PM (zC9uC)

94 someone: "For Ace specifically you should read the 2004 stuff, when he was gut-bustingly funny pretty much all the time."

So old comedy actually can stand the test of time? Better tell Ace. He's concerned about those things, so this'll be a pleasant surprise.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 27, 2009 07:32 PM (swuwV)

95 84 "What did LGF ever consist of?" -- The best comment site on teh intertubes. With the smartest commenters.
Yeah, exemplified by that stunning intellectual powerhouse, Mandy "Fuck You" Mannerswithher penetratingrhetorical prowess...

Posted by: Mandy Manners at May 27, 2009 07:32 PM (voIlD)

96 Add me to the list of befuddle former LGF fans. It's hard and sad to behold, although he has come nowhere near what "Andy the Deranged" has become. Hope he never does.


Posted by: jmchez at May 27, 2009 07:32 PM (rZFm0)

97 #82 I'm pretty sure, rightwingva, that it's one of the regulars heremocking cj's trolls and not the real thing.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 07:33 PM (MB+jN)

98 FUNNIEST ANTI-LGF video ever:
http://tinyurl.com/qwrkhq

Posted by: JDW at May 27, 2009 07:33 PM (+WJgT)

99 Juicer

Militant being the key word here. I am a Deist like many of our founding fathers, and I get flak for it at Hot Air all the time. I feel like sharing what I believe, and being tolerant of the belief systems of others.

Sometimes I feel like the Hot Air community is "militant" towards atheists and non-Christians. It makes me feel unwelcome.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at May 27, 2009 07:33 PM (OkrJ4)

100 His ass licker Irish Rose is a psycho, as well. She is the one who drew up the enemies list.
Menopause is a bitch, eh Irish?

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 07:33 PM (7FgWm)

101 #86

You're telling me that an infinitely high stack of turtles isn't chaotic?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 27, 2009 07:34 PM (otlXg)

102 The Nazi hunts and the constant denegration of all things religious is about all thats left over there. Can't remember the last time I found something interesting.

Posted by: Hammer at May 27, 2009 07:34 PM (7FgWm)

103 Sadly I can only conclude there's no room for me anymore under LGF's big micro-mini umbrella tent. There, fixed it for ya.

I couldn't agree more with the sentiments expressed here about Chuckie and his adoration society (don't think it's mutual on his part; narcissists seldom adore anyone else).

Wonder how much his hit-meter is down since he started this Babs Streisand?

Posted by: TennDon at May 27, 2009 07:34 PM (o6Yv2)

104 "Mandy "Fuck You" Mannerswithher penetratingrhetorical prowess..."

Honestly, I had no idea who she even was until people started mentioning her here. I stopped reading comments there years ago.

I meant 2002-03.

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 07:34 PM (1wXl7)

105 What Has Happened To Little Green Footballs?

Brain tumor?

Seriously, I used to enjoy his political commentary, but he has become an ammoying prick, like Richard Dawkins. He has a serious problem reagrding his evangelical atheism and blind faith in evolution, but he does not understand he has a problem.

Posted by: Darth Daver at May 27, 2009 07:35 PM (OckxE)

106 I was rather happy when I was able to finally comment on LGF. Then I noticed the screeds against ID which were the usual neo/internet atheist level of "argument". I pretty much quit going there after that.

That being said, his description of Obama's campaign is even more disturbing to me.

Posted by: Mark at May 27, 2009 07:35 PM (08ErN)

107 Haven't visited LGF in about a year. What would be the point? Everyone that opposes jihad in Europe is a nazi or once-, twice-, thrice-removed from a nazi, and everyone that doesn't full-throatedly declare that there is one Darwin and we are all his children is worse than Hitler.

Sorry, like Churchill said, if Hitler invaded hell, he'd have to say something nice to say of the Devil, and if the same folks that committed 9-11 invade or subvert Europe, then I should find something polite to say about any knuckle-dragging idiot commensurate to the fight they bring. I don't care about Mike Tyson's politics and table etiquette. I just care that he can double my money at the bookies.

And Creationism is indeed annoying, but so is UFOlogy, anti-Americanism such as Reverend Wright's, minority racism and exceptionalism, Global Warmism, and a host of other idiocies. Compared to carbon-taxes on all and sundry, I'd rather turn over the entire Department of Education to Jerry Falwell than have Washington regulate every mile I drive or every watt-hour I waste.

Basically, CJ can blow me.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at May 27, 2009 07:35 PM (JUFB3)

108 The only way for Republicans to ever win again is to become Democrats, embrace their fucktarded policies, and never criticize anything they do or say. Duh!

Posted by: Shy Yll at May 27, 2009 07:35 PM (QtpnY)

109 I hear the Humbolt Skunk is over 35% THC now.
Minds will bend and the worm will turn.

Posted by: Beto The Elder at May 27, 2009 07:37 PM (F1b/5)

110 I'm reporting you.

Posted by: mandy manners at May 27, 2009 07:37 PM (7FgWm)

111 The ultimate irony is, given enough rope, CJ will earn himself a Fiskie one of these months if he keeps up the pace.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:38 PM (QYuCD)

112 107 Everyone that opposes jihad in Europe is a nazi or once-, twice-, thrice-removed from a nazi, and everyone that doesn't full-throatedly declare that there is one Darwin and we are all his children is worse than Hitler.
Yeah -- so what's your point?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at May 27, 2009 07:38 PM (voIlD)

113 FUNNIEST ANTI-LGF video ever:
http://tinyurl.com/qwrkhq
Take the time. Piss yourself laughing.

Posted by: JDW at May 27, 2009 07:38 PM (+WJgT)

114 Meh. I used to read LGF religiously, then Chucky went off the deep end. No mas, amigo, I'll stick to HotAir, Ace, Jawa, and some Instypundition.

Posted by: Nimrod at May 27, 2009 07:39 PM (Vy2E5)

115 i never go there anymore, but i'm thinking it would be fun to register on his site just to see how long it would take before i get banned.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 07:39 PM (2AvKH)

116 Wasn't Irish Rose like uber-Catholic? Or am I mis-remembering things?

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:40 PM (QYuCD)

117 andycanuck, I wasn't sure if it was real or fake... Pretty much the level of conversation I had with her when I got banned. CJ wants to be relevant and isn't anymore, just psychotic. Funny how many of us are ex-readers and have been banned. He labels everyone a Nazi but requires goose-stepping to whatever his opinion of the day is...so glad not to be a lizard.

Posted by: rightwingva at May 27, 2009 07:40 PM (zuwP9)

118 So, hope you fellas don't mind, but I gotta ask...what all blogs are worth reading lately? I read LGF off and on for a few years, but stopped around July of last year when I moved. Of course, because of the move, I dropped most of my blogs. After the election, I spent several months avoiding news entirely because I was so disturbed and worried about what would happen. Now...well, now I'm just happy to be informed. But what all out there right now is worth checking out? I've been out of it for a while.

Posted by: Ack at May 27, 2009 07:41 PM (Hoztn)

119 "It's hard and sad to behold, although he has come nowhere near what "Andy the Deranged" has become."

jmchez, you need to read Charles' comments in the threads, not just the front page posts. He can give Andy a run for his money.

P.S. To Charles, Irish Rose, or anyone else compiling an enemies list: Rod Rescueman (that's me) used to post under the name "Lizard by the Bay" at LGF.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 07:41 PM (urD6A)

120 107 Basically, CJ can blow me.
Summed-up more succinctly than I could muster.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:41 PM (voIlD)

121 Meh. Haven't stopped by in a couple of years now. Dude's wacky and boring.

Posted by: Shannon at May 27, 2009 07:41 PM (v4qA1)

122 LGF, once awesome.........now sort of lame sorry to say.
Roman Catholic convert, conservative (always) and Republican.

Posted by: Joe Gringo at May 27, 2009 07:42 PM (o9HEC)

123 86 And Jones, what's the turtle resting on? Why, chaos, of course!No, no, no it's turtles all the way down.
Posted by: Mtenloch at May 27, 2009 07:28 PM (7z9RL)




Exactly- turles all the way

Posted by: Jones at May 27, 2009 07:42 PM (KOkrW)

124 Ack: try JustOneMinute -- excellent comment crew

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 07:42 PM (1wXl7)

125 I never went to LGF and I'm glad I didn't. Anyone who says Obama never went negative is either profoundly ignorant about recent history, intellectually dishonest, or a Kool-Aid junkie. Or if they're all three, they can get a job with the New York Times.

At least when John Cole went all "Andi" over gay marriage and Schiavo "religionists," I could remind myself that he was largely just an under-informed loudmouth, anyway (he used to say so all the time until he achieved the fifth level of Interweb Leftdom: "I Am So Smart And Republicans Are All Dumb").

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at May 27, 2009 07:42 PM (Hk0E1)

126 Johnson reminds me of Deborah Frisch

Posted by: Ron. at May 27, 2009 07:42 PM (8uOfK)

127 turtles

Posted by: Jones at May 27, 2009 07:43 PM (KOkrW)

128 Did Ace approve this post? Charles delisted him last month. Ace does have a living to make. Everyone should say fuck Chuck by throwing a five-spot in the donation pot for aceofspades.

Posted by: JDW at May 27, 2009 07:43 PM (+WJgT)

129 BTW, once a 3-5 hits a day to now 2 a week

Posted by: Joe Gringo at May 27, 2009 07:43 PM (o9HEC)

130 as far as the creation thing goes, everybody knows the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle

The classically educated among you will know that 4 elephants stand on the back of the turtle and hold up the world.

Posted by: trainer at May 27, 2009 07:44 PM (yCWYQ)

131 i used to like dave's site, garfield ridge i think it was called, but i think it's toast now.
i like this one
http://tinyurl.com/r9l2vq

and this one
http://tinyurl.com/d54t5r

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 07:45 PM (2AvKH)

132 Charles who?

Posted by: Geert Wilders at May 27, 2009 07:45 PM (eiOZw)

133 Pretty much the level of conversation I had with her when I got banned.
I know. I made a comment here that wasn't even critical of LGF or Charles, I think over the Obama gourmet pizza fly-in, I think I pointed out some minor error in cj's report, and Mandy showed up and used some foul language directed at me. Really creepy.
And then they did some racist moby phoney posts here on a different thread. Really low class.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 07:45 PM (MB+jN)

134 Why pretend there isn't a war underway for control of the Republican party?


Posted by: poon at May 27, 2009 07:46 PM (Ix+3R)

135 119 To Charles, Irish Rose, or anyone else compiling an enemies list: Rod Rescueman (that's me) used to post under the name "Lizard by the Bay" at LGF.
I recognize that handle (and many others here) from the halcyon days of LGF of yore. Glad you made the transition to the moron headquarters.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:46 PM (voIlD)

136 Drew, you obviously have not been reading LGF for a while.


My take: Johnson was embarrassed and mortified that such a cool and intellectual guy as he was pretty much labeled (fairly?) an Arab and Islamist basher, and that's pretty much how he was known to the greater world outside conservative blog circles, even within them by some accounts.


So he started some contrarian nonsense, because there's no better way to get positive notices and links than bashing your own side (see BalloonJuice, now a fav lib-blog, formerly conservative). He took it so far some conservative blogs started calling him on hypocrisy and just general assholishness, and he got his nose further out of joint, so now his site is basically trolling as blogging: posting crap to piss off conservatives, in a calculated and snide and sneering way.


He's also playing up the "I'm the smartest, most fair-minded and decent blogger on the right and only I will say the truths none of these other morons, cowards and intellectual inferiors will say". He spends most of his time bashing the GOP, conservatives, religious people, anyone who doubts glowball warmage, defending Obama and digging up old news items to defend Obama or to prove what hypocrites Republicans are. He hated every GOP candidate in 2008 and bashed McCain at every opportunity, and took contrarian positions, just as he does now, at anything critical of Obama.


He is now in the process of defending Sotomeyer, and any regular reader would expect nothing else. I don't even think he is conservative on the War on Terror and Iraq any more, because like Andy Sullivan, Johnson must bash anything Bush, in his new role.


Johnson is paying off old scores and racking up new feuds daily with conservative bloggers, radio hosts, talking heads and politicians. He's a scumbag, an opportunist and the worst kind of hypocrite. He got "internet famous" and he didn't like his label, so he's working a new narrative now, and like many many turn-coat conservatives before him, he knows nothing gets you instant adulation like burning your old comrades.


The word "douchebag" is bandied about a lot these days, but if there were a .jpg next to the word in the internet dictionary, it would be a photo of Charles Johnson. He only blogs to start fires, piss people off and settle scores. There is nothing constructive over there at LGF, and certainly nothing to help the GOP, which of course is NOT Johnson's intent, even if he does blog like a concern troll half the time, when he isn't out and out bashing Republicans and conservatives.


He's the blogoverse's Arlen Specter, but with less class and intelligence, if that were possible.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at May 27, 2009 07:46 PM (yCAZq)

137 I can't believe that as recently as last month I was defending Chucky because I couldn't believe he would ban people for next to nothing. I was wrong.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 27, 2009 07:47 PM (5jf38)

138 as far as the creation thing goes, everybody knows the earth rests on the back of a giant turtleThe classically educated among you will know that 4 elephants stand on the back of the turtle and hold up the world.

What the fuck am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Atlas at May 27, 2009 07:47 PM (7iWfE)

139 Drew, Johnson lost it - and me - back in February.

Like Chris Hitchens - who did an absolutely breathtaking five-forty (that's a one-eighty with extreme prejudice) last year, from openly castigating Obama at every opportunity, to openly endorsing him using patently absurd "rationale" after Palin was nominated - Johnson suffers from extremely acute Christianophobia. He has become positively deranged and obsessed with a crusade against Intelligent Design. It's made his site not worth reading or linking to, IMHO.

Posted by: goy at May 27, 2009 07:47 PM (+Gze8)

140 Poon's over here too?

Posted by: Carin at May 27, 2009 07:48 PM (+5ORu)

141 Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs speaks for the great majority of moderate Republicans. I urge him to run for office in California.

Posted by: David Frum at May 27, 2009 07:48 PM (6beBT)

142 #126 Cleanup required in aisle #126

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 07:48 PM (MB+jN)

143 130 ...as far as the creation thing goes, everybody knows the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle...-The classically educated among you will know that 4 elephants stand on the back of the turtle and hold up the world.
I thought the classically educated would say it's Atlas hoisting the world on his shoulders. But that's not funny enough.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:49 PM (voIlD)

144 i personally don't feel the need to slam charles. it's his blog to do with it as he sees fit. i'm free to visit it or not. mostly not.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 07:49 PM (2AvKH)

145 I would add to the pile-on, but I know Charles's minions spread out to gather intel. I've got a LGF registration I'm saving for a rainy day.

Posted by: Carin at May 27, 2009 07:50 PM (+5ORu)

146 Welcome to the club Drew, its bigger than the tent.

Posted by: Jay at May 27, 2009 07:50 PM (7fRiO)

147 MOM! CARIN SAID POON!!!

Posted by: Rich at May 27, 2009 07:50 PM (Qrjpn)

148 What the fuck am I, chopped liver?Then stop shrugging. You're getting everything jumbled up.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (MB+jN)

149 Why pretend there isn't a war underway for control of the Republican party?


huh?

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (9v0yC)

150 I have posted w/ the same handle at every blog that it's possible. If any of the new Lizards are reading this. You can go ban "Techie" (Account registered sometime in late 2002) now, and save yourself the trouble in any future purges.


Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (QYuCD)

151 In defense of Mr Johnson:

1) He codes his own site by hand. Seems self taught. That is cool

2) He is breaking the stereotype that all conservatives are glossy eyed, anti-science.

3) He is trying to have the conservative community act like grown-ups and not squeal at every little thing like the kos kids. For example, I think it is important for the gop to pick their battles and not go off all half cocked on every issue. Hey, Souter is going to be replaced by another liberal. It is just a fact. There are a lot more creepy judges out there if this nominee is replaced.

However, I do agree with many here that the rants against Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and others is lacking in tact and persuasion. I think he could get his points across in a less offensive manner.

Posted by: SirRobert at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (xehl0)

152 To be honest I have no clue about have this stuff, the "enemies" list, the banning of people that visit other places, and other such stuff. I was banned however when I came back after like a year hiatus and called the people retarded when they were comparing Bush lowering his head to accept a medal to bend at the freakin waste bow when you meet someone. I even kept my language civil until it wasn't to me then I was banned within 3 comments after having an account for over 2 years. Whatever move on the guy don't need my web traffic and I do not feel like bitching about it since I didn't care.
You wanna know what feels bad, getting turned down by a fat chick.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (WxgDD)

153 What happened at LGF? It's the same thing that happened at Daily Kos and Arianna, and has even happened with Protein Wisdom, and is the same thing that is beginning to happen, here. They aren't the first, and sadly enough, they won't be the last.

Sooner or later, without a great deal of care, it happens with all forums and open comment blogs. In time, any dissent from the current group think will simply not be allowed.

It'll be interesting to see how that scenario plays out at Pajamas Media.

Ideology, thy name is tyranny.

All ideologies, you see, openly proclaim freedom for all, but in actual practice, each only a tyrant, and often a pettty tyrant, at that.

Posted by: Cigarette Man at May 27, 2009 07:51 PM (FoHqy)

154 I quit bothering with that dump a while ago. Charles apprently went nuts and started thinking that Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, and creationists are suddenly more dangerous than islamic fundies. The constant harping on these subjects just got tiresome.
LGF has ran it's course. It's no longer a prominent anti-jihad blog.

Posted by: MM at May 27, 2009 07:52 PM (L5em7)

155 oh yeh another fav is this andrew sullivan's site. he's the voice of true conservatism, that and paranoid delusions.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 07:53 PM (2AvKH)

156
I got the stick on the second wave of bannings about year and a half ago.

Don't miss it.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2009 07:54 PM (xc+0B)

157 I found LGF around Rathergate and immediately was a fan, not just because he outed Rather as the liar he has always been, but because he is a very smart and, I thought was an advocate to the things I believe in. I really didn't mind his creation stuff, but day after day, it was , man just make your point. Then a week before last years election I commented, stop it dude, don't we have the most important election in our lifetime in a week and your talking creation?
I was banned. One visit a day since I know why. The worm has turned. He's Bill Clinton. Finger in the air. I think in a year he'll be just a guest blogger at HuffPo or Move. Sad.

Posted by: David C at May 27, 2009 07:54 PM (Ckb6d)

158 2) He is breaking the stereotype that all conservatives are glossy eyed, anti-science.


Wrong. He plays into exactly that stereotype. A stereotype created by liberals. CJ gives libs fodder by pretending to be some great "swimming against the tide" warrior.

Posted by: Carin at May 27, 2009 07:54 PM (+5ORu)

159 Wait, Protein Wisdom?

Jeff has gotten over his slap fight w/ Patterico.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 07:55 PM (QYuCD)

160 Why do you continue to give Big Purple Baseballs and the nut in charge more publicity?

Posted by: Gerry at May 27, 2009 07:55 PM (UuN23)

161 I found AoS (and thereby Val-U-Rite vodka) from a link on LGF. I stopped reading LGF about 6 months ago; guess I'm not alone.


Posted by: MarkS at May 27, 2009 07:56 PM (8V8J7)

162 CJ is now saying 'you know what? La Raza isn't as bad as I originally thought."

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 07:56 PM (UJIeT)

163 , and has even happened with Protein Wisdom, and is the same thing that is beginning to happen, here. They aren't the first, and sadly enough, they won't be the last.

Sooner or later, without a great deal of care, it happens with all forums and open comment blogs. In time, any dissent from the current group think will simply not be allowed.

WTF are you talking about? Jeff has banned - maybe - three people. And one of them made threats against his kid.

Posted by: Carin at May 27, 2009 07:56 PM (+5ORu)

164 136 He hated every GOP candidate in 2008 and bashed McCain at every opportunity, and took contrarian positions, just as he does now, at anything critical of Obama.
I don't recall CJ bashing McCain much, personally. I know he wasn't big on Palin, though.
And I seem to rememberCharles being fairly excited about pointing out Obama's ties to William Ayers -- even anticipating a "key discovery" by LGF staple Zombie, which the hoardes were breathlessly hoping would be some keystone evidence in the Obama-Ayers connection.
Turned out to be the Ayers Prairie Fire manifesto, which -- while certainly exempliary of the left-wing kookism of Ayers and his Weathermen crew -- certainly didn't knock anybody out RE: Obama's election chances.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 07:57 PM (voIlD)

165 But how does that make one a fan or defender of Barack Obama or one to chronicle every frailty and foible of every GOP candidate or elected official on the planet ?
Yeh. I've agreed with Charles on many things over the years. I'm not shocked and horrified when he has strong opinions or bans people who disagree with him.
I've completely stopped going there since one little thing that I don't know if anyone else noticed: he posted nothing about the Scare Force One incident until he posted the apology by Obama the day after.
No empathy for the New Yorkers, no criticism at all? Well, then the blog is just not for me any more. It just...well, I'm sure it's clear to most everyone here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 27, 2009 07:57 PM (X6Zdh)

166 Hey, life's too short to get worked up about Charles Johnson banning me (a long time ago). There are many places I can go to get the same info I used to get there, and without the dross.


Posted by: Bob's Kid at May 27, 2009 07:57 PM (bHUdr)

167 Well Jeff ain't banning people so I do not know what you are talking about. I go there all the time to actually try to type like I know what I am talking about.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 07:57 PM (WxgDD)

168 Vet missing parts...you still on here?

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 07:57 PM (xeVap)

169 excuse me #151 Sir Robert, but you are full of shit. "Acting like adults?" Bullshit. Fuck you. Personally, I think we should cheap-shot, slam, insult, disrespect and demean Obama at every turn. Hell, I think we should make shit up about him, like the plastic turkey thing. Use every weapon, bash him fairly and unfairly, keep up the drumbeat of hate and disrespect, and his numbers will fall, no matter what the MSM does. It worked for the left, don't tell me it didn't. You create a narrative about what a stupid tool he is, you drumbeat it daily and everywhere you can, and you overwhelm the opposition with it. The low-info types will pick it up as the CW and the "truth". We can't be hostile and negative ENOUGH.


Wussies like you make me puke. Fuck you, "acting like adults" god FUCK you.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at May 27, 2009 07:58 PM (yCAZq)

170 LGF has been crap for a long time, I stopped visiting months ago. Allah is doing a great job of ruining Hot Air too.

Posted by: ken at May 27, 2009 07:58 PM (9zzk+)

171 That's a great example of the new LGF.
La Raza is cool for CJand people are being reprimanded for saying otherwise.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 07:59 PM (0aQsc)

172 (OT--sorry)
#166 Bob's Kid

HELLO! I've didn't realize you were banned--I just thought you left LGF (I did two weeks ago). I've missed you, and I hope our path cross again soon.


Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 07:59 PM (vqkDD)

173 10-4 on that. It seems that tere are also a few other blogs that have the same view.

Posted by: DNJAX at May 27, 2009 08:00 PM (kL0Wz)

174 What happened to LGF?

CJ apparently got a girlfriend. She's ugly, and liberal, but what's a guy to do?

Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 27, 2009 08:01 PM (z4qI0)

175 I see Powerline dropped it's forum also, Hinderaker wrote it was because traffic was why down. It was a crappy forum template though, slow and prone to lockup my computer, that's why I didn't comment much.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2009 08:01 PM (xc+0B)

176 That's actually the one hangup I have with PW, is that obvious trolls AREN'T banned. Thread after thread got derailed by the same goddamed 3 people (who seem to have dropped off the face of the Nets for the moment, Thank Gaia)

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:01 PM (QYuCD)

177 Yep, I called it.

He has posted an update directly confronting DrewM. I have never seen someone so obsessed with the need to blog about every perceived slight against them or their positions.

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:01 PM (2RAD8)

178 151 In defense of Mr Johnson: 1) He codes his own site by hand. Seems self taught. That is cool.
And he is intent onletting everybody know that, as often as possible, via his endlessly ego-driven "Tech Update" entries.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:01 PM (voIlD)

179 Anyone know what his daily visits are these days?

Posted by: JB at May 27, 2009 08:02 PM (xL7di)

180 Heh - Charles has a post up about this thread. I just knew it would be there when I checked.

Posted by: Shannon at May 27, 2009 08:02 PM (v4qA1)

181 #138

What the fuck am I, chopped liver? (Atlas)

Pretty much. During the Great War, you and Cronos (and the rest of the Titans) didn't understand the meaning of "teamwork" and you got your ass handed to you by Poseidon and Hades. Next, you decided to follow Hades she-witch of a wife, Persephone, in a plot to destroy the world by causing the Earth to fall into Hades. For your trouble, you got chained to the top of Hades by some half-crazy, half-naked Spartan dude who's about 0.05% of your strength and size. Now, you fester there while Zeus' minions make habitats of your orifices while the love juice (magma) of the Earth spills all over you. About the only thing you have going for you is you have the voice of Michael Clarke Duncan, who I do see as a modern day Atlas.

Shrug, damn it, so that in the end, there will be only chaos!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at May 27, 2009 08:03 PM (otlXg)

182 He codes his own site by hand. Seems self taugh

And he will never miss an opportunity to remind you of that fact.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:03 PM (QYuCD)

183 177
Sam you got a link?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:03 PM (WxgDD)

184 Drew, you are in SO much trouble.

I just hope you don't drag us all down with you.

Posted by: NOT Carin at May 27, 2009 08:04 PM (+5ORu)

185 "He is breaking the stereotype that all conservatives are glossy eyed, anti-science."

Um, no.

Here's the deal: Chuck never said he was a conservative. And he isn't, which is fine. He's a lefty who had some prominent lefty illusions shattered by 9/11 and the second intifada.

The problem is, unless you have a real conversion experience (or realize you were a conservative all along), the desire to *belong* where you started, to have your lefty urban friends be nice to you again, is strong. That's why Althouse and McArdle and many others found excuses to line up again on their home side in 2008, despite quickly coming to their senses re: Obama's insanity since. Give CJ this: he lasted through the election.

Of course, that doesn't excuse his insane blog-management behavior, but that's another matter.

Posted by: someone at May 27, 2009 08:04 PM (1wXl7)

186 I can remember going over there everyday last year, several times a day just hoping for that window to register. So glad that window never opened. Happy to be an AoSHQ Moron, anyday of the week.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:04 PM (cxzu3)

187 Stand by. Now that you've questioned him, your link to LGF will be sliced - you might find a google-cache version of that page to link. I'm just sayin'

They don't like it when you disagree.....

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 27, 2009 08:04 PM (1Mn8Z)

188 Strange, the update to the Limbaugh thread about DrewM and AoS has been removed...

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:05 PM (2RAD8)

189 CJ has a new thread up about this because he needs affirmation from his adoring, drooling bots.


Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 08:05 PM (UJIeT)

190 Carin? You still here Carin?
Carin?

Posted by: Rich at May 27, 2009 08:06 PM (Qrjpn)

191 Of course Charles now has a post up about this AOS thread.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 08:06 PM (+FzLa)

192 But I dont expect careful reasoning from the Ace of Spades crowd any more, either.

Did asking Ace to enforce your draconian comments policy on this site have anything to do with that, Charles?

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:06 PM (QYuCD)

193 GODDESS OF THE CLASSROOM
Are you still on here?

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:06 PM (xeVap)

194 Uh Oh... You are "mean-spirited" DrewM. Ouch. I guess you have to take lessons from CJ and his Schutzstaffel on proper manners.

Posted by: rightwingva at May 27, 2009 08:06 PM (zuwP9)

195 I used to post there many years ago (Ask me about globular clusters), but I haven't visited the site in well over a year now.

Heh. I remember that one. I never had a run-in with CJ, but during Katrina an ad-hoc posse made it clear I was unwelcome for saying that the government's response would make Bush look bad. I've hardly looked at it since and deleted the bookmark years ago.

Posted by: lmg at May 27, 2009 08:07 PM (Qt4Y7)

196 183.

Mr. Pink it was the LGF page. Charles had posted an update to Limbaugh thread about this thread on AoS. It is gone now

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:07 PM (2RAD8)

197 I left LGF about 2 weeks ago. I got tired of the creationist bashing (I don't care which way you go), the Glenn Beck bashing and the drift to the left of the general tenor of his comments. I really liked and miss his lead-in links. But enough was enough.

Posted by: firefly at May 27, 2009 08:07 PM (W3FQW)

198 Uh, now it is back, it is its own thread above the Limbaugh thread. My interwebs must be rebelling...

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:08 PM (2RAD8)

199 Carin was never on this thread. Nope.


Posted by: NOT Carin at May 27, 2009 08:08 PM (+5ORu)

200 Someone needs to wake Sharmuta up from her pre-all night posting nap so she can defend her man.

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 08:08 PM (UJIeT)

201 Sam - I think he changed it and made it its own post.

Posted by: Shannon at May 27, 2009 08:09 PM (v4qA1)

202 #193 Christie

Yes, I'm here.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:09 PM (vqkDD)

203 There's no comments yet either...amazing.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:09 PM (cxzu3)

204 4 whole comments...

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 08:09 PM (UJIeT)

205 110
I'm reporting you.
Make sure you spell my name right.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:09 PM (vZVv7)

206 Gee ya think he's lurking or sends one of his little spies report
back?
Maybe does a whiny tread on the morons blog.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2009 08:10 PM (wqPan)

207 Not that I disagree with you, Drew, but shouldn't you leave the blog-feud fodder to Ace?

Posted by: sandy burger at May 27, 2009 08:10 PM (twiRb)

208 Per Alexa:

http://tinyurl.com/pnayl4

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:10 PM (QYuCD)

209 Thank God. Charles already has a post up about this.
I reported each and every one of you. I hope you're happy now!

Posted by: Irish Hose at May 27, 2009 08:11 PM (0aQsc)

210 I have never seen someone so obsessed with the need to blog respond about every perceived slight against them or their positions.


I have. His name is Hugo Chavez

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 08:11 PM (+FzLa)

211 On a positive note I don't think CJ has talked about Ajax in a while.


Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:11 PM (2RAD8)

212 ..."I agree with you Charles"...don't all of the commenters have to use this opening line or else get the ban-hammer? Weak.Ass.Shit.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:11 PM (cxzu3)

213 Barack Obama ran on a platform of sheer positive messages. Not once did
he wish for the other side to fail. Ok, maybe there was just this one time, when he was watching the movie Red Dawn, and he started cheering for the other side. But only that one time.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (K5AMb)

214 Lol Blazer. I stand corrected.


Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (2RAD8)

215 DrewM. at Ace of Spades thinks something has happened to me:


Charles seems genuinely confused that some people might actually say
out loud they dont want Sotomayor confirmed to the Supreme Court.

Uh, no, thats not my point at all. (But I dont expect careful reasoning from the Ace of Spades crowd any more, either.)

Fuck off. Seriously, you whacked out sanctimonious bitch.

Hey, maybe he can go ask the Jug Eared Fuck if he can have a cabinet post.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (vZVv7)

216 Hey, Goddess, how are ya? Yah, I got the stick a year and a half or so ago. Dunno why, unless it was for posting at the blog which may not be named--or one of the blogs that may not be named, anyway. There are several now, I hear.

Oh well, I'm not losing sleep over it!

Hope you're well!

Posted by: Bob's Kid at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (bHUdr)

217 Someone called the internet police.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (QYuCD)

218 From Charles' new front-page post:

To me, its a very simple thing almost blindingly simple, in fact: openly wishing for political opponents to FAIL! is horrendously bad politics.
When Rush Limbaugh says he wants Obama to fail, even if he later
backpedals and says he wants policies to fail, a whole lot of people
in this country hear him saying he wants America to fail because like
it or not, Barack Obama was elected President by a majority of the
voters in this country.
When you spout this I want you to fail! rhetoric, its a giant
turn-off to a large segment of the American population. Its not just
bad politics its stupid, self-defeating politics. It makes you look
petty.
Criticize policies all you like, and work to defeat politicians you
dont agree with. But wishing for Obama or his Supreme Court nominees
to fail is mean-spirited, negative, and hands ammunition to your
political enemies that they will gladly use.Right, being constantly negative, on the attack, and openly hoping your opponents fail turns off America and can never lead to electoral wins. Oh yeah, except for the Democrats in 2006. Oh yeah, and the Democrats in 2008. But besides those two times, it's never worked. No, really.

CJ is such a moron.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 08:12 PM (urD6A)

219 Little Green Footballs?

Is that like a website or something?

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 27, 2009 08:13 PM (iafWn)

220 I'm just glad I Car in didn't participate in this.

Posted by: NOT Carin at May 27, 2009 08:13 PM (+5ORu)

221 Funny, I looked at LGF for first time in awhile, and wondered the exact same thing on seeing the Limbaugh "attack" ...

Maybe he got offered a $million from Soros to sell out to the left ... stranger things have happened ...

Posted by: bill ... I WON at May 27, 2009 08:13 PM (ApUxC)

222 Impressive statistic-fu there, Techie!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:13 PM (cxzu3)

223 Cyn

Bingo! Comment #2.

But now they are talking about cats.

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 08:13 PM (UJIeT)

224 192 But I dont expect careful reasoning from the Ace of Spades crowd any more, either.
Perhaps you'd have a better position from which to make that assertion if both you and your insulated, bootlicking worshippersdemonstrated a bit more of it, you egomanical jackass.
Pot, meet Kettle.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:14 PM (voIlD)

225 Dr. Numbstick:
Your comment about his vainglory at his own coding relates directly to the "scoop" he thought he had: that "scoop" had zero to do with taking down Obama and everything to do about building up LGF's prestige as a blog. He hasn't done anything since he made a .gif with Rather's TANG document, so he keeps hoping for a new narrative to replace the "Charles Johnson is an anti-Arab racist" meme he is so upset about. That is what this is all about. That's why he is so concerned with calling other people racists, because CAIR and some liberal sites regularly refer to LGF as Arab hate central, and it galls him enough to jettison any support at all for the right and cozy up to the left in every way possible. Despicable human being, way too many bytes being wasted on saying that.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at May 27, 2009 08:14 PM (yCAZq)

226 CJ likes him some Obama Hopenchange!

He banned me for:
1. making fun of him being scared of Paulians and Nazis under every rock.
2. defending the Tea Party Movement from an actual participants view.
3. calling him and the rest of the yes-dicks over there out for being candy- asses.

I have been visiting here for a couple years now. I like this place much better. You people are not eager to kiss ass in order to be liked or invited to cocktail parties.

Fuck bicyclists; and the $12 of aluminum annoyance that takes up half the fucking lane while I'm trying to get to the liquor store.





Posted by: Sifty at May 27, 2009 08:15 PM (PJFdL)

227 If he had a working pair of balls, he'd say "Fuck CAIR."

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:15 PM (vZVv7)

228 192Uh Oh... You are "mean-spirited" DrewM.
Yeah -- 'cuz a hearty "fuck you!" from the likes of Mandy Manners is never mean-spirited, huh...

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:16 PM (voIlD)

229 196
Thanks sam. I clicked over there for a second but can not bring myself to care much about a "blog war" so I clicked off. I used to go there so did alot of people here. He banned alot of us. I can't really bring myself to care much, when I turn my computer off technically I am banning all of you. hehe

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:16 PM (WxgDD)

230 Does he actually google his name every few seconds to see who is writing about him? How does he know he's being written about so quickly?? Get a life, for pete's sake!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:17 PM (cxzu3)

231 "I agree with you Charles"...don't all of the commenters have to use this opening line or else get the ban-hammer?


Of course not. If you don't agree with Charles on the subject at hand, just compliment him on his awesome jazz guitar playing ability or say something very nice about his ten speed or suck ass pics of concrete breakwaters and old dilapidated piers.

Works every time.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 08:18 PM (+FzLa)

232 Take it easy on me guys. Fuck you is allI know how to say.
It's ok with Charles, right Charles?

Posted by: mandy manners at May 27, 2009 08:18 PM (0aQsc)

233 I've been feeling the very same way, DrewM, but have not yet had the stones to remove LGF from my rss. But, y'all, it's not very impressive to make fun of him by calling him Chucky, and the ponytail thing...it just makes commenters look juvenile.

He's seriously grating on me regarding the Limbaugh stuff, but he does have me truly concerned that our intra-party/conservative battle lines are being drawn between the "Toomey Types" (me) - garden variety conservatives- and the ID/creationist/Ron Paul/birth certificate types. And to hear it from him, the nirthers are winning the hearts and minds of the party. I'm a Catholic who believes that God is the designer of the universe, but I'm also pretty sure I came from a monkey, and see no problem there. I just don't want to see conservatives being defined by stuff like this. Talk about a NOT winning strategy. ID as science will have us laughed out of the arena of ideas.

Posted by: Mink Monica at May 27, 2009 08:18 PM (RusTI)

234 why an entire thread on how another site sucks, as well as all the ad hominem stuff ?seems kinda catty, just saying.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:18 PM (2AvKH)

235 #63: +1

Hey come to think of it, Ace, can we get a little + and - app that lets everyone anonymously raep comments that don't adhere to the AoS orthodoxy? I think this would contribute greatly to an air of community, as we each give our fellow netizens a gentle "nudge" when they start drifting away from the accepted standard. Like constructive criticism, but without all that icky confrontation.

Web 2.0 here we come!

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:19 PM (xWk3U)

236 Does he actually google his name every few seconds to see who is writing about him?



What ? Doesnt everybody?

Posted by: Chuckles The Clown at May 27, 2009 08:19 PM (+FzLa)

237 Mr. Pink, i would agree but I am waiting for a friend at the library.

No hotties in sight...
No Valu-Rite to be obtained....

blog-war and nerd rage is all i have to entertain myself with at the moment.

And lolcats.

Posted by: Sam at May 27, 2009 08:19 PM (2RAD8)

238 You want to talk about pearl necklaces in the day time instead, Joan?

Posted by: mandy manners at May 27, 2009 08:19 PM (0aQsc)

239 I'll sum up the posts so far:
1. I agree!
2. You are the greatest Charles!
3. Yeah, you rock Charles!
4. Christians suck Charles!
5. Yeah, Christians are Nazis!
6. Oh, yeah, Creationists are Nazis!
*Charles* --- I have a new flashing green button on the blog!
7. Charles, you are the greatest programmer eveah!
8. Can you make it blue charles? --- Rick
*Charles* ---- Rick, you're banned.
9. Ban Him Charles! Probably a Nazi, only Nazi's like blue!

Posted by: rightwingva at May 27, 2009 08:20 PM (zuwP9)

240 Yeah, Limbaugh commenting on Sotomayor is bad politics. Good freak'n grief. Does he know what Limbaugh's opinions and statements mean to all those people that don't listen to him? They don't mean shit. This is what kills me about this constant hand wringing lately about Limbaugh, nobody and I mean nobody except those that listen to him cares all that much about what he says.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2009 08:20 PM (xc+0B)

241 I'll have you know this is a very smart military blog.

We got a banner and everything.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:20 PM (QYuCD)

242 Hey come to think of it, Ace, can we get a little + and - app that lets everyone anonymously raep comments that don't adhere to the AoS orthodoxy?
Ummm, no thank you.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:21 PM (cxzu3)

243 241
I'll have you know this is a very smart military blog.We got a banner and everything.

Val-U-Rite and guns makes this a very damned smart mil-blog.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:21 PM (vZVv7)

244 Orthodoxy? Perhaps against the Scandi menace.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:22 PM (QYuCD)

245 235 #63: +1Hey come to think of it, Ace, can we get a little + and - app that lets everyone anonymously raep comments that don't adhere to the AoS orthodoxy? I think this would contribute greatly to an air of community, as we each give our fellow netizens a gentle "nudge" when they start drifting away from the accepted standard. Like constructive criticism, but without all that icky confrontation.Web 2.0 here we come!

this site gets boring when he don't have any quality trolls. we start turning on ourselves. trolls cn be entertaining at least for a while.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:22 PM (2AvKH)

246 242

Hey come to think of it, Ace, can we get a little + and - app
that lets everyone anonymously raep comments that don't adhere to the
AoS orthodoxy?



I'd rather tell honest cloud, and tom dumbass they're retards.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:23 PM (vZVv7)

247 Mink Monica,

What you fail to understand is that Charles would happily lump Toomey in with the "Nazis". Pretty much anyone to the right of Olympia Snowe is a legitimate target of his hate.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 08:23 PM (urD6A)

248 234
Halfway agree with you, but only when they comment about him monitering here when they obviously go there. Whatever, it is a free world people can do what they want they don't need our approval.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:23 PM (WxgDD)

249 CJ: To me, its a very simple thing almost blindingly simple, in fact: openly wishing for political opponents to FAIL! is horrendously bad politics.
Well, I disagree, Chuck. How 'bout that? Now, I know that I'm obviously wrong in my opinion and you're obviously right in yours because you have, like, a nifty blog site which makes all your opinions, you know, empirically correct and everything. I realize that fact because if I even attempt to counter your assertion on your site directly I'll get, like,kicked off and ridiculedfor disagreeing. That makes everything you say the objective truth.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:24 PM (voIlD)

250 It's more fun to have the mods fuxxor their comments.


Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:24 PM (QYuCD)

251 Val-U-Rite and guns makes this a very damned smart mil-blog.
And we get Lace Wigs posts! Does LGF get that kind of quality?--I don't think so.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:24 PM (cxzu3)

252 You know, if you wingnuts were a bit more like CJ, perhaps you would have to wander in the desert for the next forty years. Conservativism is DEAD DEAD DEAD.

Posted by: Carintroll at May 27, 2009 08:25 PM (+5ORu)

253 I was an avid reader. He banned me after a couple of comments. Guy has become a douche.

Posted by: jeff at May 27, 2009 08:25 PM (fApN0)

254 242Ummm, no thank you.


Well, obviously you're some kind of Rethuglican throwback, because you're just dead set against seeing this blog EVOLVE.
Like Mixie Peesa created it from dust.
(Though given its occasional tendency to return to dust unexpectedly, this might not be too far from the truth.)

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:25 PM (xWk3U)

255 +5 for the Carintroll!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:26 PM (cxzu3)

256 234
Halfway agree with you, but only when they comment about him monitering here when they obviously go there. Whatever, it is a free world people can do what they want they don't need our approval.

if that's the case someone needs to loosen up their pony tail and get a life.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:26 PM (2AvKH)

257 "why an entire thread on how another site sucks, as well as all the ad hominem stuff ?seems kinda catty, just saying."

Because LGF gets 3 times the traffic this site does?

Nothing like a blog war with a higher traffic blog to pick up the count!

Posted by: poon at May 27, 2009 08:26 PM (Ix+3R)

258 would- wouldn't .

BUSHHITLER!

Posted by: Carintroll at May 27, 2009 08:26 PM (+5ORu)

259 # 169
"excuse me #151 Sir Robert, but you are full of shit. "Acting like adults?" Bullshit. Fuck you. Personally, I think we should cheap-shot, slam, insult, disrespect and demean Obama at every turn. Hell, I think we should make shit up about him, like the plastic turkey thing. Use every weapon, bash him fairly and unfairly, keep up the drumbeat of hate and disrespect, and his numbers will fall, no matter what the MSM does. It worked for the left, don't tell me it didn't. You create a narrative about what a stupid tool he is, you drumbeat it daily and everywhere you can, and you overwhelm the opposition with it. The low-info types will pick it up as the CW and the "truth". We can't be hostile and negative ENOUGH.
Wussies like you make me puke. Fuck you, "acting like adults" god FUCK you."

That might be the single most ass-kicking post I've ever read.Bravo! I agree 100%.

Posted by: MM at May 27, 2009 08:27 PM (L5em7)

260 Poon, do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Carintroll at May 27, 2009 08:28 PM (+5ORu)

261 Because LGF gets 3 times the traffic this site does?

Which is still 8 times less traffic than your mom.

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:28 PM (xWk3U)

262 Well, obviously you're some kind of Rethuglican throwback, because you're just dead set against seeing this blog EVOLVE.
Yes I am and so are you, apotheosis. I'm buying the next round.

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:28 PM (cxzu3)

263 Poon, you get bored over at PW?

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:28 PM (QYuCD)

264 Like many here, I'm an LGF refugee. It was a long sad decline for Charles. But the lesson is you can't trust a 9/12 "conservative." The hippy reflex took a while, but eventually it kicked back in.

Posted by: poe at May 27, 2009 08:29 PM (K7GnR)

265 i'm not terribly interested in the creationism debate. i already saw inherit the wind, good movie , darren from bewitched was in it.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:29 PM (2AvKH)

266 261 Because LGF gets 3 times the traffic this site does?--Which is still 8 times less traffic than your mom.
Thread winner. Hands down.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:30 PM (voIlD)

267 hey charles you and your crew werent too concerned with being nice,when my dumb lefty ass got flattened by a bulldozer.Hypocrite.

Posted by: Saint Pancake at May 27, 2009 08:30 PM (3/GXy)

268 poon,

Your numbers are backwards. According to Alexa this site is 2-3 times more visited than little squashed footballs.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 08:30 PM (urD6A)

269 GODDESS
I am typicalwhitey on LGF.
How are you?!?!

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:30 PM (xeVap)

270 Seriously, I'm a left wing, liberal Democrat troll, and even I'm shaking my head in disbelief at LGF. He's makingmefeel sorry for the Christians. Yes, I hoped Roberts and Alito would fail too. I will no longer troll his site, I'm sticking with the best right wing wackos on the internet, here, at AOS.

Posted by: Crouching Puma at May 27, 2009 08:31 PM (1kwr2)

271 Remember Balloon Juice? Used to be great, then the liberals ate Cole's brain. He played that awful card the current RINOs are so good at--he tried to make his psycho liberal commenters like him.

Posted by: Flubber at May 27, 2009 08:32 PM (/ykD9)

272 I have no idea what this site's traffic is, because Alexa groups apparently groups all the mu.nu blogs together. You'd have to ask Pixy Misa to split it apart.

But, by that logic, Charles should be bowing to the superior wisdom of Markos Mouslitas or Arianna Huffington.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 08:32 PM (QYuCD)

273 A hearty welcome to you new troll, Crouching Puma!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:33 PM (cxzu3)

274 1. pick a random LGF regular username.
2. post here under said username, expressing concern about Charles' site.
3. ????
4. PROFIT!

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:33 PM (xWk3U)

275 261
Because LGF gets 3 times the traffic this site does?

Which is still 8 times less traffic than your mom.



game, set, match.

well played sir, well played.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:33 PM (vZVv7)

276 256
You talking to me or the guy we are all making fun of on the other blog who is talking about us all over the internet? Yeah let us have our table make fun of hisat lunch period that will teach em!!!!!
Sorry but I really can not bring myself to care im 6 beers deep and I learned today we might lose our contract in 3 weeks so I will have to find a new job. Wanna talk about boning fattownies outside of Fort Leonard Woodat Big Loius I am game

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:33 PM (WxgDD)

277 269 Christie

I'm fine, thanks--it's so kind of you to ask. Despite my disillusionment with LGF, I am still very fond of my friends there, and I miss them.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:34 PM (vqkDD)

278 Fuck you, Crouching Puma!

Posted by: mandy manners at May 27, 2009 08:34 PM (0aQsc)

279 by that logic, Charles should be bowing to the superior wisdom of Markos Mouslitas or Arianna Huffington.

...you're implying he doesn't?

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:34 PM (xWk3U)

280 If we are to be the death of the Conservative Movement (as the hand-wringers pretend to worry) because we believe differently than the cycling dipshit, or that we are not bow tie wearing George Will / Mort Kondrake candy-assed conservatives, let it be so.

I say let it die this way rather than the painful slow way that ass-kissing pansies are going to kill it.

The problem over there is an overabundance of ego and a severe shortage of get off your fat lazy ass and make some noise.

Posted by: Sifty at May 27, 2009 08:35 PM (PJFdL)

281 56Even posting at other sites where other posters insult LGF will lead to banning. One is found guilty of treason by association.I left because I'm just too conservative, but I never said anything derogatory about LGF, Charles, or any posters. They, however, vilified me.It wasn't a healthy atmosphere for me, and their behavior when I chose to post elsewhere proved that I made the right choice.Please, Ace, don't change. That would truly break my heart.
OMG, goddess, I had wondered where you had gone! Hello from Florida (hint, hint). How are things going for you and your children?

Posted by: Marybeth at May 27, 2009 08:36 PM (Sa6g/)

282 279
by that logic, Charles should be bowing to the superior wisdom of Markos Mouslitas or Arianna Huffington....you're implying he doesn't?

yeah, I had just kinda assumed...


Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:36 PM (vZVv7)

283 Ace of Spades is a pretty cool site though.

Posted by: Z Ryan at May 27, 2009 08:36 PM (PDeVA)

284 I haven't posted there in awhile until tonight.
I didn't like the creationist threads or anti threads I should say.
Didn't have much to add to those and knew I could get banned there.
Someone over there just posted your number 56 post.

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:37 PM (xeVap)

285 Just look at the douchebag commenters remaining over there who were laughed off real sites like Ace and Hot Air. Glad to see them all enter the event horizon.

Posted by: Valiant at May 27, 2009 08:37 PM (KByvo)

286 283
Ace of Spades is a pretty cool site though.

We even have free Chig.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:37 PM (vZVv7)

287 I removed LGF from my feed a couple of months ago. I couldnt stand it anymore.

Posted by: Dan F at May 27, 2009 08:38 PM (79OIm)

288 Mandy, you wish,

Posted by: Crouching Puma at May 27, 2009 08:38 PM (1kwr2)

289 When dissent is no longer an option, all that remains are group think and social programming. iow, ideology.

Sooner or later, it happens at every blog which allows comments and on almost every forum that has ever been on the internet.

In a free market of ideas, that is well and good. People will congregate wherever they find like-minded others. However, the the hypocrisy that is often involved by the commenters and blog and forum owners often leaves much to be desired. They decry sophistry in others, but practice it, themselves. They decry the use of ad homs and other logical fallacies by others, but employ the same to their own ends.

Read some of the above comments, by both AoS regulars and by others who have commented, here, both pro and con LGF. Do many of these comments sound like rational, sane adults to you? No, they don't. The narrative is to conform to a shifting, arbitrary standard or go to hell. This is not freedom. This is not rational behavior.

However, such irrational behavior has also been allowed for in the plan... in fact, over the next few months, that behavior on a national and global level will only become worse.

Posted by: Cigarette Man at May 27, 2009 08:39 PM (FoHqy)

290 Thank you Cyn

Posted by: Crouching Puma at May 27, 2009 08:39 PM (1kwr2)

291 Sock puppet off.
Seriously, a big welcome to you, Crouching Puma. This is a great place and it'll be fun to get to know you.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 08:40 PM (0aQsc)

292 Hey marybeth...give me a hint too!

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:40 PM (xeVap)

293 People keep saying "I removed LGF from my feed". Are you referring to RSS feeds? Can you recommend a good RSS feedreader for Windows XP?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 27, 2009 08:40 PM (kw6LA)

294 Good to see some of the familiar names.

Cheers.


Posted by: Sifty at May 27, 2009 08:40 PM (PJFdL)

295 It is the moderate disease. He wants to be respected for attitude rather than talk about any actual issues. He is stuck on fail.

Posted by: D1Stewart at May 27, 2009 08:41 PM (FzoZg)

296 You talking to me or the guy we are all making fun of on the other blog who is talking about us all over the internet? Yeah let us have our table make fun of hisat lunch period that will teach em!!!!!
Sorry but I really can not bring myself to care im 6 beers deep and I learned today we might lose our contract in 3 weeks so I will have to find a new job. Wanna talk about boning fattownies outside of Fort Leonard Woodat Big Loius I am game

that was directed generallyto all self important pony tail wearing douchebags. i have no idea if that applies to you or not. if it does don't take it too personally just some unwanted advice.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:41 PM (2AvKH)

297 It is a sad thing; it appears he has become uber defensive and communicates in an over the top harsh manner. Lately he is not even adding his own perspective to a number of his blog's postings. It's almost as if he knows he has nothing sutable to say about the subject, so he just waits for others to disagree with what he has quoted and then he knifes them. There is little tolerance for logic or reason in the discussion, its his way or the highway, facts be damned.

Also, have you noticed how often he has been "opening the gates" to new members? He is indeed trying to appeal to a different audience than the old anti-Jihad crowd made up of conservatives, because he has lost them as active members. I hope he finds happiness and becomes a more joyful person.

Posted by: Ray at May 27, 2009 08:41 PM (f44Vn)

298 I asked LGF to remove my ID about two months ago. They now open up registration almost daily and then boot a large percentage. I had an id for over two years but the place went bozo. I had problems with a bunch of their weird objectives like global warming and divining and some strange off hand angle to supporting Obama.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Posted by: NortonPete at May 27, 2009 08:41 PM (fVuwW)

299 For instance, I can come here and say I'm not that big on vodka and I'm pretty much okay with hobos, and not worry abo

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 08:41 PM (xWk3U)

300 We even have free Chig.
You bbq-ing again UncleFacts? I'm so there!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:42 PM (cxzu3)

301 I dropped a well reasoned, simple to understand comment over there the other night explaining the difference between a Theory, a fact, and a Law. Just to watch what fireworks would follow.

And guess what? My account is blocked. Shocker!

Posted by: William Teach at May 27, 2009 08:42 PM (7yTel)

302 Here's why this issue matters to me:

Charles's LGF made thousands aware of political issues that the MSM ignored. He developed some great user-friendly features for the blog. He built up a readership that became a community of generally conservative people, many of whom felt silenced or at least self-censored among their co-workers, neighbors, or even family. Members of this community felt a kinship, and many become friends.

Then Charles's priorities changed. Yes, he has every right to run his site has he wishes, but it's almost 180 degrees different from how it was five years ago. He also started banning people not because they broke his house rules but because the disagreed with or questioned him.

For those who felt a sense of belonging at LGF, this change is truly painful, and speaking for myself, I'm trying to make sense of it.

I don't think the personal insults are necessary, but it's hard enough to be a conservatice in today's political climate without the feeling that one of the ports in the storm is no longer there.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:42 PM (vqkDD)

303

Charles seems genuinely confused that some people might actually say
out loud they dont want Sotomayor confirmed to the Supreme Court.

Uh, no, thats not my point at all. (But I dont expect careful reasoning from the Ace of Spades crowd, either.)


CH attempts to change the topic.
It may not be CJ's point but it's the point everyone is making when they say fail.
The guy makes his own definition then criticizes others for not living up to it.CJ is being totally disingenuous as usual.

Posted by: Rocks at May 27, 2009 08:43 PM (3RHzM)

304 http://tinyurl.com/qsd458


live wild dumb, young and free. loosen up your pony tail.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:44 PM (2AvKH)

305 LGF is my favorite site. They love gay, black trannies and have the correct opinion of Christians and anyone who opposes Mr. Johnson is treated with the utmpst respect.

Posted by: T Dub at May 27, 2009 08:44 PM (B8gqF)

306 I rank threads about hippy charles dickhead right up there with threads about meghan mccain. Move along now, let's not waste any more bandwidth on the hippy who jumped the shark years ago.

Posted by: BillyBob at May 27, 2009 08:44 PM (/EnDu)

307 I love the fact that right now, Ann Coulter's ad is running as a banner at the top of LGF. Shouldn't the higher being CJ remove that banner from his site? Isn't she a racist according to caring ponytail man?

Posted by: rightwingva at May 27, 2009 08:45 PM (zuwP9)

308 Goddess have you seen realwest lately?

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:45 PM (xeVap)

309 I was banned from the site two weeks ago simply for down-rating his three consecutive anti-creationist rants. I have never even left a comment, just three thumbs-down because I am sick of his never ending screeds.

The best thing about the site are the links at the top of the page. As for Sir Charles, he is returning to his liberal roots. He can't help it. Like all liberals and socialists, he is a control freak.

Last week he accused Rush of being a creationist. I heard Rush's comments on Saturday on his Week in Review, and he simply wove creationism vs. Darwinism into his monologue to make an unrelated point. Now he's jumping on Rush again like a shrew from The View.

Charles is on a witch hunt to purge the Republican party of its base. What do you want to bet he voted for Obama?


Posted by: RTH615 at May 27, 2009 08:45 PM (9ritq)

310 NortonPete, Similar things happened during the Democratic Primaries at Huffington Post. Anyone who supported Hillary was locked out of the discussion. I think Ace is right, LGF is dumping their old crowd for a younger, cuter, more progressive crowd....good luck collecting alimony.

Posted by: Crouching Puma at May 27, 2009 08:46 PM (1kwr2)

311 I used to love LGF but i gave up that place about 1 year ago when he got so sanctimonious. If i want to read that shit i go to Huff post. LGF F U very much.

Posted by: polvo at May 27, 2009 08:46 PM (LnF5D)

312 Hey charles heres a lil addition for your finely made special ponytail edition lace wig.*hack*hairball*hack*real big hairball

Posted by: punkin,rush limbaughs cat at May 27, 2009 08:47 PM (3/GXy)

313 308 Christie

Not since last week. Is he ok?

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:47 PM (vqkDD)

314 crap, wrong video. that should have been the one for don henley must die., oh well screw it. that one's good too.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:47 PM (2AvKH)

315 Can you recommend a good RSS feedreader for Windows XP?

How about RSSOwl?

Posted by: Heorot at May 27, 2009 08:47 PM (xPWQe)

316 302 goddess
Yeah -- all that, plus the fact that I simply don't like tyrannically-run comment blogs where I feel like I have to toe the company line in order to continue interacting therein. They piss off my individualistic sensitivities.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 08:48 PM (voIlD)

317 300

We even have free Chig.

You bbq-ing again UncleFacts? I'm so there!


marinating as we speak for the weekend. I broke two axe handles, and a hockey stick killing Chigs last night.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 08:48 PM (vZVv7)

318 watching the ponytailed Ukulele player self destruct is funnier than watching South Park.

The question is whose ass will Sharmuta kiss once he is gone?

Posted by: iam7545 at May 27, 2009 08:48 PM (4qKem)

319 LGF used to be fun butCharles is turningintoCaptain Queeg. He's going to be demanding to know what happened to his strawberries pretty soon.

Posted by: Unserious at May 27, 2009 08:49 PM (QKKT0)

320 I don't know.
I will email him

Posted by: Christie at May 27, 2009 08:49 PM (xeVap)

321 Hey Cig you must be puffing Marlboro Ultralights thru a freakin cig holder. You got a point here but this applies to ALL discourse so pointing it out is like pointing out "Hey that bum is an alcoholic and will spend this money on booze!"
"In a free market of ideas, that is well and good. People will congregate wherever they find like-minded others. However, the the hypocrisy that is often involved by the commenters and blog and forum owners often leaves much to be desired. They decry sophistry in others, but practice it, themselves. They decry the use of ad homs and other logical fallacies by others, but employ the same to their own ends. "
You are arguring that it is possible to find rational discourse ANYWHERE while holding yourself out there as some paragon. It is the internet chill out you seem to be more uptight than I am which is hard.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:50 PM (WxgDD)

322 Try Bloglines for RSS. That way you can get it on pretty much any PC, can use an iPhone or PDA, can even access with Kindle.

Posted by: William Teach at May 27, 2009 08:51 PM (7yTel)

323 openly wishing for political opponents to FAIL! is horrendously bad politics
If its bad politics why are the liberals in power?

Posted by: David C at May 27, 2009 08:52 PM (Ckb6d)

324 i think this thread will just improve lgf's traffic. now i have to go check it out to read the counter smack there.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:52 PM (2AvKH)

325 I have to respond to this.
"He also started banning people not because they broke his house rules but because the disagreed with or questioned him."
It was always like that.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:53 PM (WxgDD)

326 marinating as we speak for the weekend. I broke two axe handles, and a hockey stick killing Chigs last night.
You are da Man! That sounds like a new Personal Best for implement destruction too. Those dang Chigs;crafty bastards they are.

Later to All--time for some family time. Welcome to all the New Morons as well!

Posted by: Cyn at May 27, 2009 08:53 PM (cxzu3)

327 Well, he seems to a tread up about this thread.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2009 08:53 PM (1tvww)

328 325 Mr. Pink

To be honest, I wasn't aware of that until last year. Before then, I had the impression that people were banned for really attacking Charles; I couldn't blame him for that.


Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:55 PM (vqkDD)

329 For those who felt a sense of belonging at LGF, this change is truly painful, and speaking for myself, I'm trying to make sense of it. I don't think the personal insults are necessary, but it's hard enough to be a conservatice in today's political climate without the feeling that one of the ports in the storm is no longer there.
I understand. I guess I was never as much of a part of the community there, so I don't feel the pain as much. Also, he never said he was conservative, so I"m not suprised to see him acting like a not-conservative person, esp. when the President is a democrat.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 27, 2009 08:55 PM (X6Zdh)

330 For those who felt a sense of belonging at LGF, this change is truly painful, and speaking for myself, I'm trying to make sense of it. I don't think the personal insults are necessary, but it's hard enough to be a conservatice in today's political climate without the feeling that one of the ports in the storm is no longer there.

i don't think cj was a real conservative in the first place, just a liberal whose views were changed by 9/11.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 08:55 PM (2AvKH)

331 296
Iapologizethen Joan. I am on 8 now and my girlfriend is watching "So you think you can dance" which is pissing me off.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 27, 2009 08:56 PM (WxgDD)

332 Shouldn't the higher being CJ remove that banner from his site? Isn't she a racist according to caring ponytail man?


In case ya' didn't know, I'm a capitalist hippie douchebag.

Posted by: Chuckles The Clown at May 27, 2009 08:56 PM (+FzLa)

333 330 joan

I agree, but the community was friendly to conservatives or at least to issues conservatives cared about.


Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 08:57 PM (vqkDD)

334 Teach!!!!!!

Posted by: Editor at May 27, 2009 08:57 PM (en7mZ)

335 Obama gave plenty of speeches referring to "eight years of failed policies from George Bush" and tying Bush to McCain. The notion Obama had a positive campaign is laughable.

Posted by: h0mi at May 27, 2009 08:58 PM (rq0rN)

336 Cahrles Jhonsno wiped AoS off his links, kind of his way of sending you to the cornfield, you're supposed to say "it's GOOOD that you said that Charles"

Drew posts on him, and he immediately goes apeshit with a response. Kind of like he's scared of this place. Imagine, Lord Charles of the Blogosphere getting upset that this little ole blog posted about widdle chuckie.

I've joked that LGF has become "Chuck's Church of Scienceology" but he and his cultists are getting creepy. He's got Wild Irish Rose scouring Facebook to publish personal information of the "worst" enemies of Lord Charles.

He says he's never expected reasonable debate from AoSHQ, "reasonable" being what L. Charles Hubbard has decreed. AoS is a fun place to come to, blow off steam, and throw spitballs in the cafeteria.

Trust me, more people read through AoS comments for the hilarity than read through Sharmuta's tongue bathing of CJ and strict enforcement of the code of the cult.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 08:58 PM (93F13)

337 Charles is really a fascist. He wants to silence anyone who disagrees with him. he even has threaten to have other blogs shut down. he is really a mad man.

Posted by: Rodan at May 27, 2009 08:59 PM (iqBTZ)

338 What up there, Editor? Long time.

Posted by: William Teach at May 27, 2009 09:01 PM (7yTel)

339 "If you kiss my ass, I'll let you keep posting on my blog's comments" is a pretty fucking weak way to run a blog.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:01 PM (vZVv7)

340
296
Iapologizethen Joan. I am on 8 now and my girlfriend is watching "So you think you can dance" which is pissing me off.


you must feel how i do when my squeeze watches wwf. i feel your pain.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:02 PM (2AvKH)

341 Charles and perez make a dandy couple on their bike for two riding along the brokeback pacific.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2009 09:02 PM (XooSV)

342 338
What up there, Editor? Long time.
kinda diggin' your writing.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:03 PM (vZVv7)

343 Funny, noones ripping on AOS over there, not even Kilgore and MM.

Charles is probably weaping in his merlot right now.

Of course, Sharmuta hasn't showed up yet to tongue bathe him, so all is not lost.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 09:03 PM (+FzLa)

344 Christie, I very rarely post at LGF, so you probably wouldn't know me. But goddess and Iconversed over there a year or so aho about herchildren. She's one hell of a lady. Happy to see her here.
And you as well.
And 'Nam Grunt
I saw that realwest had posted at LGF the other day, btw

Posted by: Marybeth at May 27, 2009 09:04 PM (Sa6g/)

345 Blazer, would be a hell of a lot more fun if they'd come over here.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:05 PM (vZVv7)

346 I stopped reading LGF when he went off the deep end with the anti-creationist stuff. It became very tedious and havn't been back since.

Posted by: steve at May 27, 2009 09:05 PM (ijiwd)

347 307
I love the fact that right now, Ann Coulter's ad is running as a banner
at the top of LGF. Shouldn't the higher being CJ remove that banner
from his site? Isn't she a racist according to caring ponytail man?

I've always laughed at that irony. Here's Mr Ban-O-Matic banning people for posting on other sites he doesn't like, yanking RSS feeds and links, threatening Michelle Malkin and Stacy McCain, yet Annie Baby's greenbacks are OK even though she's pretty much said what Beck and Limbaugh say.


Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 09:05 PM (93F13)

348 After I got banned there after several years of posting a few years ago, I had enough with that cocksucker and his band of idiot worshipers. Happy, but not surprised that it's no more than another circle jerk wasteland.

To Charles and his followers - lick my balls.

Posted by: Jack Burton at May 27, 2009 09:05 PM (YxJoH)

349 Take LGF off your links please..Its how I got off pot years ago. After two weeks I didn't think about it anymore. Thanks.

Posted by: David C at May 27, 2009 09:06 PM (Ckb6d)

350 I also didn't get why CJ picked fights with people that he would probably agree with on the majority of issues, particularly islamic extremism. He expectes absolute 100% agreement on everything, and if you don't fall in line, OUT WITH THE BAN STICK!
It's sad what happened to that site. It's the blogosphere equivelant of getting stoned on meth and running into a Taco Bell buck ass naked and trying to hold the place up with a bottle of windex and a Butterfinger. Just......sad and pathetic.

Posted by: MM at May 27, 2009 09:06 PM (L5em7)

351 You heretics are all banned!

Posted by: Charles Johnson at May 27, 2009 09:06 PM (hID5+)

352 338
What up there, Editor? Long time.


Posted by: William Teach at May 27, 2009 09:01 PM (7yTel)
Yeah, I kinda went underground for awhile after getting banned in India. I mean, seriously, how can one expect to make living at blogging when you can't get any hits from India?

Posted by: Editor at May 27, 2009 09:06 PM (en7mZ)

353 Yea verily doth AoSHQ ruleth over LGF!
For only here wilst thou read of cock holsters in the comments.
At LGF the cock holster is mistaken for the johnson.

Posted by: somejoe at May 27, 2009 09:07 PM (yP5sH)

354 Count me among the previous LGF regulars who has been saddened by the steady decline of the blog. I quit posting/lurking there a few months ago. I still stop by every day, but I increasingly shake my head when I read the stuff over there. For a long time I thought it was just me, until things started showing up on the other blogs I read verifying that there really was a drastic change going on over at LGF. I think it's sad, mostly because united we stand, divided we fall.

ts

Posted by: truthsword at May 27, 2009 09:08 PM (3jlYG)

355 333 330 joanI agree, but the community was friendly to conservatives or at least to issues conservatives cared about.

well i read lgf a lot at one time, but i found other sites i liked more.it just did not interest me at some point. i'm sure it was not him. it was me though.
break ups are tough, but they are inevitable. sometimes you have find someone or something else and get on with your life.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:08 PM (2AvKH)

356 Yeah, I kinda went underground for awhile after getting banned in
India. I mean, seriously, how can one expect to make living at
blogging when you can't get any hits from India?

Hey if you really need some Indians, I can hook you up with a bunch in my Ol' Hometown of Scranton PA!

Posted by: Sherrif Joe Biden, Hardcore Sekrets Keeper at May 27, 2009 09:09 PM (vZVv7)

357 RINO blog LGF is stuck on stupid and has a thrill up his leg when the Obamessiah lies. He is the totally gay boyfriend of Chris Matthews. I hope his kidneys fail.

Posted by: Federale at May 27, 2009 09:09 PM (wpJU1)

358 I used to post there and read it daily, from about 2003 through 2007. But I got banned somehow, apparently because I committed the "sin" of posting on a blog that Charles doesn't approve of (though I always stayed out of the internecine blog wars).

It's a damned shame. He's done a lot of good work in the fight against the jihadis and their Western enablers (for which much thanks), but he's got a different bee in his bonnet these days. And he gets his boxers in a bunch about things faster than you can say Jack Robinson.

Posted by: Beverly at May 27, 2009 09:09 PM (o/LdL)

359 189
CJ has a new thread up about this because he needs affirmation from his adoring, drooling bots.




Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 08:05 PM (UJIeT)
Hi Scout!
Yes CJ has beome as paranoid as Stalin and Saddam and his flunkies are just falling all over each other in agreeingwith him. He has become a total loon.. Killgore Trout and Jimmah are two idjits!

Posted by: Scipio at May 27, 2009 09:10 PM (bePn5)

360 It's kinda like the Special Olympics over there.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 27, 2009 09:10 PM (0aQsc)

361 My least favorite moron over there was some clown named Iron Fist who thought he was harder than Chinese match. When I told him I thought his martial arts stories were a bunch of crap, he told on me to Charles and his little ball fondlers. Little bitch.

Posted by: Jack Burton at May 27, 2009 09:11 PM (YxJoH)

362 I had to give up on LGF. The purges and the heavy handed way that commentersare tormented for expressing dissenting opinionsgot to be a bit much for my taste.

Posted by: Joe Stalin at May 27, 2009 09:11 PM (6beBT)

363 break ups are tough, but they are inevitable. sometimes you have find someone or something else and get on with your life.

joan, you are so right on so many levels.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 09:12 PM (vqkDD)

364 Yeah ... each time I visit one of my go-to blog sites and see conversation about LGF I feel like those folks in "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind" ... You know, the ones who kept producing the same image of the monument in Wyoming and found themselves drawn together with the same enlightenment ...

Not only has his content and commentary slid off the tracks .... but it's usually slim-pickings for anything of substance to read. WTF happened???

Posted by: drillanwr at May 27, 2009 09:12 PM (XdZpQ)

365 Oh and Iron Fist, when one of you or your bitch little followers reads this thread to report back to your pimp, I still think you are a pussy.

Posted by: Jack Burton at May 27, 2009 09:13 PM (YxJoH)

366 "Charles let his disappointment with the GOP turn in to Obama-worship.
He let his unease with creationism turn into Christian-bashing."

Yep. That Christian-bashing is really bigotry, nothing less. I'm a pretty mild-mannered Episcopalian, but this is too much.

And his admiration for Obama is like that of "evariste" on Discarded Lies, who also (I suspect) got tired of being in the Out Crowd.

Posted by: Beverly at May 27, 2009 09:14 PM (o/LdL)

367 The saddest thing is, the only site that links to LGF anymore is collegehumor.com

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 27, 2009 09:14 PM (iafWn)

368 Although, to be fair, evariste doesn't generally BAN people who disagree with him.

Posted by: Beverly at May 27, 2009 09:14 PM (o/LdL)

369 LGF was one of the very first blogs I discovered after 9-11. I couldn't stop reading about the middle east nutjubs and just how despicable a swamp the middle east really was. Lately CJ has lost me too. I could care less about the whole creationism debate and it's really taken a front seat to the middle east and muslim nutjobs. Back in 02-03 it was THE blog to read for me, but the positive is it led me to other blogs such as Ace and bloggers like Allahpundit. I hope CJ can find some medication or whatever else to fix his wagon.

Posted by: Crash at May 27, 2009 09:15 PM (2MHBL)

370 Good night, morons.

(that's said with affection.)

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 09:15 PM (vqkDD)

371 thanks goddess, are you really a teacher ?if so god bless you.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:15 PM (2AvKH)

372 367
The saddest thing is, the only site that links to LGF anymore is collegehumor.com


Oh that's gonna leave a mark...

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:15 PM (vZVv7)

373 I used to post there and read it daily, from about 2003 through 2007.

Tempting to ask your nic... but I won't even suggest that I would ask your nic, would I.

Posted by: Druid at May 27, 2009 09:16 PM (nFeDb)

374 I endorse LGF. I love his truth and honesty and even temper. He's so modest. And he is kind to me.

Posted by: T Dub at May 27, 2009 09:17 PM (B8gqF)

375 371 joan
Yes, I'm really a teacher-9th grade English. Thanks for the blessing!

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 27, 2009 09:17 PM (vqkDD)

376 Magic 8 Ball thinks tonight's overnight thread, is gonna be a doozy...

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:17 PM (vZVv7)

377 night goddess

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:17 PM (vZVv7)

378 dang my punktuation and grammar sucks.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:18 PM (2AvKH)

379 Chuckles wants his sycophants to go to other sites and report back to him if any lizards go rogue.

Hmmm. The Nazis did that too. Asked people to spy and report their neighbors for disloyalty.
Chuckles must be readin Mein Kampf again. Filthy little Nazi that he is.

Posted by: passionate conservative at May 27, 2009 09:18 PM (PU/sc)

380 I am an atheist who believes in evolution, i don't back european facists(muslim or otherwise). however i was so off put by LGF i wrote him an email and told him i was done reading his blog. It too was my favorite with Ace and Jawa. However, Charles seems intent on purifying his blog of differing opinion. He has become one of those meghan mccain types that says we need to enlarge the republican party by kicking out the largest groups, the religious, the socially conservative,the libertariansand anyone who doesn't 100 percent agree with Charles on everything. You can't even mention the word creation. like i saidbelieve in evolution, 100 percent, however i don't think evolution explains how all that exists or all that "is" started. So if i were to say on his blog how was everything created, the universe, its contents, living organisms, then i am a backwards creationists in his eyes.

He mocked the whole tea party thing, which i understand didn't accomplish a ton, yet, but to outright dismiss protests by your fellow travels is unwise. I have never, NEVER, been to a protest before, i have a white color job that keeps me busy, but i showed up to the local protest.
He denegrates the ron paul people, somne of whom are nutty, but when you have a movement where everyone can think freely but agrees on economic policy and the meaning of our constitution, of course you will get truthers et al. That is part of the whole freedom thingie, people see things differently, but if they can unite on two major issues, the contitution and economics, that is all that should matter.
His blog has turned into his own personal vendetta machine. I honestly think he reads all the comments on his blog and rivals blogs because sometimes he will call out POSTERS on other peoples blog and accude the person who runs the blog of endorsing what a POSTER said. He will then bitch and whine about another bloggger doing the same thing.

I would have been willing to ignore this crap but he has completely given up on the whole anti jihad thing and has decided to spend all his time MeghanMccainicing the party.

Charles Johnson is to liberal blogs what Joe Scarborough is to MSNBC. He's become a colin powell republican, which does nothing but point out the faults but offers not solutions. He never mentions how the republican party is expected to make up the 20-30 million votes it will lose when it kicks out the religious and socially conservative. Or how one can oppose obama and not be some sort of traitor or obstructionist.


What finally pushed me over the edge was him posting often attacking glenn beck. i don't know what people here think of glenn but i enjoy his show(for the record i can't stand bill oreilly, ingrahmor hannity but i like savage.). I am not a die hard fan, but i figured there was apoint where i had to pick one or the other, and by this time the choice became easy.

It is a big loss, but not one i chose lightly.


Charles Johnson will be hosting morning Joe on MSNBC in a few months.

Posted by: ben at May 27, 2009 09:18 PM (9tUea)

381 yeah, but you certainly make up for it in other ways joan

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:18 PM (vZVv7)

382 I used to be a huge fan of LGF, but they turned into Daily Kos with readers being able to have your account shut down if you disagree with them.
Shame on Charles. He's turned into "them".
What once was a wonderful blog site has turned into a bunch of assholes gathering together and keeping different thoughts out. Oh, gee, much like DKOS.
The last time I posted there, it seemed like every freakin' day for a month, he was ranting on and on about Texas and the battle over Creationism. Seems like there were no less than 4 or 5 topics a day on the subject. Finally, I said (almost word for word) "What's the big deal about this? Get on with something else for a change. God forbid someone should bring up another subject. Oops. I said "God". When I went to log in the next day, my account was shut down.
No cussing, not trouble making. And I was a subscriber for several years. No more.

Posted by: 8 My Foot at May 27, 2009 09:18 PM (kFBjx)

383 270
Seriously, I'm a left wing, liberal Democrat troll, and even I'm
shaking my head in disbelief at LGF. He's makingmefeel sorry for the
Christians. Yes, I hoped Roberts and Alito would fail too. I will
no longer troll his site, I'm sticking with the best right wing wackos
on the internet, here, at AOS.

Posted by: Crouching Puma at May 27, 2009 08:31 PM

God, any moron who isn't touched by that has no heart. I've got tears in my eyes at that one. God love ya Crouching Puma, and come for the best troll abuse on the interwebs. I mean that

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 09:19 PM (93F13)

384 i have a degree in soc sci ed ;i tried to teach but i could not handle it. i'm still undergoing therapy from the trauma.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:20 PM (2AvKH)

385 Leave Charles alone ! He promised to ride me on his handlebars all the way to the next meeting of The Log Cabin Syrup Conservatives.

I told you guys that I like the color black and I had gay friends.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at May 27, 2009 09:20 PM (+FzLa)

386 I used to be a regular over there (using a different name), but then LGF stopped being a go-to site for news on jihadis and instead became a place where Charles Johnson told us about Right and Wrong.

This is a job for which he lacks wisdom and experience.

Haven't been back in a long long time.

Posted by: qrstuv at May 27, 2009 09:21 PM (r5xF2)

387
dang my punktuation and grammar sucks.


Joan, clean it up a little, this ain't the Overnight thread, love. : )

Posted by: Meghan McCain at May 27, 2009 09:22 PM (+FzLa)

388 I fear Charles Johnson has started focusing more on topics dear to the center-left due to professional pressure in his day job (session musician). That said, it is his sand box (and a well made sandbox- his internet fu is strong), my issues were:

I'm fine with his calling out the creationists, but I think he should have put the meat of it on a different blog page. The political impact and influence of creationism is a good topic for discussion, getting in to the back a forth of slapping down ID and Young Earth, etc. loses me. Might as well blog about Scientology - I don't think many people care.

His crusade against the anti-semites in Europe is correct; but really needs to done by a European. Americans who play footsie with the them need to be called out on it. My father's older brothers still have fascist shrapnel in them and we should not forget it. He does good detective work putting all of the pieces together from limited resources.

My biggest problem is his wanting to be a political "nice guy." Refusing to engage in good old-fashion mudslinging and being critical of those on your side who do is a mistake. All mud sticks, you gotta keep slinging it -- nirthers, this Chysler meme, Ayers, etc. HuffPo was a vile cesspit of lies and distortion during the Bush years, now they are on Air Force One.

Finally, it just isn't any fun over there.


Posted by: Jean at May 27, 2009 09:22 PM (xCBQ4)

389 385
Leave Charles alone ! He promised to ride me on his handlebars all the
way to the next meeting of The Log Cabin Syrup Conservatives.I told you guys that I like the color black and I had gay friends.

must be one hell of a set of handlebars, Fatty McButterpants.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:22 PM (vZVv7)

390 When I told him I thought his martial arts stories were a bunch of
crap, he told on me to Charles and his little ball fondlers. Little
bitch.

Little Gonad Fondlers? I like that

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 09:22 PM (93F13)

391
@387


Crap, sock off.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 09:23 PM (+FzLa)

392 381 yeah, but you certainly make up for it in other ways joan

you mean despite my lousy grammar, my message is very astute and keenly perceptive and shit. right ?

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:23 PM (2AvKH)

393 Bless you, Ace. LOL

Posted by: Rose at May 27, 2009 09:23 PM (WAZDn)

394 295 He is stuck on fail. Posted by: D1Stewart

-----------------------

He is stuck on stuck on fail.

I go there and he's sure to have dug up some obscure weirdo who's cobbled together a bunch of quotes from Revelations, Mein Kampf, and the Constitution and stuck an RNC logo on its page which makes cj yell

THIS -- THIS -- IS WHAT HAS BECOME OF AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES!!!

Half these assholes I'd have never heard of if he weren't publicizing them so generously.

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2009 09:23 PM (5HGAe)

395 uh, yeah that is exactly what I mean.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:24 PM (vZVv7)

396 scipio:
Yes CJ has beome as paranoid as Stalin and Saddam and his flunkies are
just falling all over each other in agreeingwith him. He has become a
total loon.. Killgore Trout and Jimmah are two idjits!

The tea party twins.



Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:24 PM (UJIeT)

397 I quit going there because his page had some much crap on it my 10 year old WindowsME PC was choking on it. I was looking about once a month and it was boring and then by coincidence just a day ago and found this.
Headline at LGF:
"White Supremacists Plan to Recruit at July 4th Tea Parties
Followed by a comment criticising Ann Coulter.

If I want to read MoveOn.org, I'll read the real thing, not some wantabe.


Posted by: snookered at May 27, 2009 09:25 PM (h3PdB)

398 for all those banned or blocked, we have an alternate chat linked to a network of blogs. We also have a badge of honor for you all... The Book of the Banned. Both the link to the chat and the book of the banned can be found on my blog. Here is a direct link to the list of more than 770 who have been banned

Posted by: Kirly at May 27, 2009 09:25 PM (ZrS0c)

399 also he should change the name of his site to

"picture of 2 vlaams belang guys, pat buccahanon and two girls eating lunch in the background at a cafeteria blog" about a month ago when i left he was posting that daily.

Posted by: ben at May 27, 2009 09:25 PM (9tUea)

400 Hey there Scout how you.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2009 09:25 PM (XooSV)

401 395 uh, yeah that is exactly what I mean.

ok i'm glad you respect my awesome intellect and not just my awsome boobs.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:26 PM (2AvKH)

402 The epitome of the ponytailed Ukulele players idiocy was when he started redirecting links from other blog sites to the "you are an idiot" page.

Nancy Johnson is about as mature as a 10 year old spoiled brat. After all on LGF it is his ball and his bases.

Posted by: iam7545 at May 27, 2009 09:27 PM (4qKem)

403 Charles Johnson is like a Greek tragedy. He did superb work on the TANG/Rather forgeries as well as the 2006 Reuters Beirut Fauxtography - then he got caught up in a silly blog war with Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugged and Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch and became obssessed with Creatioinism and turned his blog into a milder version of The Daily Dish with daily posts about some fucking School Board in Texas that I would never hear about (or ever wanted to hear about) regarding crationism. His boundless narcissim is now daily on dispaly where he is a regualr psoter on his threads (something he rarely used to do) where he bullies and insults people who dare to disagree with him. There is something almost King Lear-like about Johnson raging against Paulians, Nazis, Eurofascists, Tea Parties, Glenn Beck, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Creationists, etc. You are right, soon he will become a Trig-truther trying to prove that Bristol Palin is the baby's real mother.

Posted by: Scipio at May 27, 2009 09:27 PM (bePn5)

404 Jean:

I fear Charles Johnson has started focusing more on topics dear to the
center-left due to professional pressure in his day job (session
musician). That said, it is his sand box (and a well made sandbox- his
internet fu is strong), my issues were:

I think he was biding his time.


Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:27 PM (UJIeT)

405 I read LGF regularly for years, even though I don't post, and it's gone steadily downhill since the election. [One exception, I did find the links to QualiaSoup's vids interesting and can effectively use the "Open-Mindedness" argument to covert an atheist to an agnostic (baby steps - hah).] I think CJ's trying to carve out a niche as an intellectual leader of sorts, heralding science, high above the mindless masses of fundies and those he'd accuse of having Obama Derangement Syndrome (are we deranged over the swift-changing scope of our govt and the deepening debt?). But to be an intellectual leader, you have to generate some actual ideas instead of constantly on the attack -- good ideas are hard work, and brilliance near impossible. But on LGF, when he's not attacking, he's defensive. Not a healthy place for him to be in, really. I guess we can all find ourselves in that tight spot, online or in our personal lives. He can still turn this around, go on a sabbatical, figure out where he wants to go with his blog. Maybe next go 'round, not tie his name to his site -- that way, when he encounters a disagreeable poster, he can choose not to take it personally, not ban them. Maybe I'm all wrong here, but I can't imagine he's too happy with his dropping viewership. I hope he takes a break and can return with a fresh perspective, even if it's promoting science or something he's passionate about, in a positive way. I hope he reads this, but I have no idea.

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:27 PM (8wLr9)

406 Wasn't Crouching Puma, Shitting RINO a martial arts movie?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 09:27 PM (MB+jN)

407 Hey Nam.

Never better. You?

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:28 PM (UJIeT)

408 I think its good to have a place like LGF that does differ from the mainstream conservative movement a little bit and I think his point about using negative language repeatedly and not offering alternatives is a dangerous and ineffective strategy (for example, if one isn't a fan of Sotomayor why not point out cases and quotes which do the talking then suggest a 'moderate' like dems tried with prado?) if not necessarily specifically on judicial nominations (there seem to be few consequences for the appelate nominee filibusters and no votes on Roberts/Alito) but one the 'Obama never went negative' bs Charles is definitely kind of flailing to support a weak argument that he made there. When pointed out that some of the Obama campaign's ads were negative, he claimed that he wasn't counting DNC actions (though clearly the two are linked). Then when it was pointed out those ads were in fact paid by the Obama campaign he tried to ignore it and claim it still missed his larger point--that Obma presented the image of always running a positive campaign.

Its bad enough that the media will parrot Obama's narratives. Charles is too smart to parrot them as well and then reflexively bend over backwards to defend poor arguments.

Posted by: republican at May 27, 2009 09:28 PM (EegTB)

409 I'm in Dutch with the rest of yuze guys. If Gitmo has finally outlasted its purpose in fighting the WoT, then LGF has certainly overstayed its welcome by becoming the Abu Graib of conservative blogs. When the price of admission now requires ugly strip searches by raging synchophants accompanied by sneering taunts and genital tazering from their Bicycle-Riding Al-Jarreau-Worshipping Pony-Tailed Athiest Overlord, it's time to find yourself a new prison.

Posted by: Scott in OC at May 27, 2009 09:28 PM (LsIYA)

410 I just noticed that all LFG comments just agrees with everything CJ posts.


Posted by: Sal at May 27, 2009 09:29 PM (CbyEo)

411 Funny I've been thinking all day that I should remove it from my automatic feed. I hope someone figures it out.

Posted by: erp at May 27, 2009 09:29 PM (BDRHK)

412 Scipio

He will turn on Israel, too. Just wait.

Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (UJIeT)

413 still have to give props to cj for busting rather on that bogus memo. i appreciate him for that.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (2AvKH)

414 ok i'm glad you respect my awesome intellect and not just my awsome boobs.


Bullshit. No way for sure we can tell if your boobs are awesome unless you post pics of em'.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (+FzLa)

415 He's not even clean and articulate, but God love 'im, really...
Oh, what the hell am I saying. He's a thin skinned ass.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (0aQsc)

416 GoTC! Check thine mail.

Posted by: Taqiyy. at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (ltfED)

417 407 Scout,

I'm doing great hon'.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 27, 2009 09:31 PM (XooSV)

418 "Half these assholes I'd have never heard of if he weren't publicizing them so generously." -- Stuck on Fail

Yes! Exactly -- CJ's part of the problem, whether he wants to admit it or not. And if he can't stand Ron Paul, why does he obsess? I never encounter a piece on Paul unless I'm on LGF.

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:32 PM (8wLr9)

419 414 ok i'm glad you respect my awesome intellect and not just my awsome boobs.Bullshit. No way for sure we can tell if your boobs are awesome unless you post pics of em'.

i have some pics floating out there. somewhere.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:32 PM (2AvKH)

420
ok i'm glad you respect my awesome intellect and not just my awsome boobs.


I'm man enough to be able to appreciate them both.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:32 PM (vZVv7)

421 @408
GAZE Lizard alert.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2009 09:32 PM (0aQsc)

422 Happy to hear it, Nam.

I'm turning in.

Hope to catch up soon!




Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:33 PM (UJIeT)

423 ok i'm glad you respect my awesome intellect and not just my awsome boobs.

I'm man enough to be able to appreciate them both.

thanks, but this thread is not about me. it's about how lgf sucks. let's focus.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:34 PM (2AvKH)

424 " Although, to be fair, evariste doesn't generally BAN people who disagree with him."

Ironically, he was one of the first to ever be banned by Charles at LGF. His sin? Being critical of Chuck on another website. That is the no-no to end all no-nos. Charles can handle criticism on his own blog (because he has the power to delete it), but nobody seems as willing to use draconian speech codes to defend Charles' honor as Charles is. Whodathunkit?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 27, 2009 09:35 PM (urD6A)

425 412
Scipio

He will turn on Israel, too. Just wait.


Posted by: Scout Finch at May 27, 2009 09:30 PM (UJIeT)

Yes Scout (Atticus raised a smart girl) he will. It will be a natural progression (or should I say regression) for him. He will blame it on Netanyahu, or Lieberman, or the "settlers" or the few Kahanists there, or the fervently pro Israel Christian "Right". He will do it "more in sorrow than in anger" and then he will start whining about the poor Palestinians. It will be his penultimate epiphany (just like Charley Reese used to be very pro Israel). The sad thing is that the Jewish suckups to him on that blog will rationalize his treachery.

Posted by: Scipio at May 27, 2009 09:35 PM (bePn5)

426 Hi guys, I'm still here in Vegas on a break from the action. Barack and me had a good night at the blackjack tables with our system of bet one chip if it's bad and two if it's good. We had to stop it after a while, but Barack let me drive the Buick slow on the driveway afterwards. I'm an excellent driver.

Anyways, I wandered around a little bit and went into this one suite to meet with a supposed mole for our side. Come in to see this guy with a ponytail down to his ass and these gruesome long nails. He'd once been king of the blogosphere and even developed this revolutionary wooden bicycle called the Spruce Bruce or something like that. He had bike parts strewn over his bed, some weird jazz CDs, and a few faithful aides who stayed with him with these glassy eyed stares.

Anyway, glad to see you guys here at Ace of Spades, I've gotta go to the buffet table with Elvis in a few minutes. Best burgers with dijon mustard this side of Katie's


Posted by: Joe Blackjack Biden at May 27, 2009 09:36 PM (93F13)

427 now charles is answering back on this shit, he looks like a reatard. he is a whiner and is pissed he is being "outed" for being a fuckstick..

Posted by: luva the scissors at May 27, 2009 09:36 PM (FF8cW)

428 I can also multi-task. Now about those pics..

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:36 PM (vZVv7)

429 I notice that Zulubaby who used to be one of his favorites has not posted in years.

Posted by: Scipio at May 27, 2009 09:37 PM (bePn5)

430 I deleted Little Pea-Brain Charles from my bookmarks bar a few weeks ago and can't say I miss his blog one iota. Almost sad thinking back on how much I enjoyed the site some years back.

Posted by: bound4er at May 27, 2009 09:37 PM (Vfvm+)

431 @62
I think the fact that CJ rarely had any insight or commentary, is what first caused me to check LGF on a less-than-daily basis... I can get headline links lots of places. But when I finally noticed he took the time to rant and rave about neo-Nazies, creationism-obsessions, etc more than anything else, I stopped going there altogether. Funny, just yesterday I was thinking "hmm, maybe I should just check LGF, perhaps CJ finally got laid and has relaxed a bit..." glad I saw this post before wasting my time!

Posted by: Attila at May 27, 2009 09:37 PM (wLsJL)

432 #398
Seriously, he banned Mama Winger? What for?
/rhetorical question
Wow . . . not good.

Posted by: Marybeth at May 27, 2009 09:38 PM (Sa6g/)

433 "Charles can handle criticism on his own blog (because he has the power
to delete it), but nobody seems as willing to use draconian speech
codes to defend Charles' honor as Charles is." - Rod Rescueman

That's interesting, 'cause he embedded all those QualiaSoup vids on how to build an argument by listening, instead of shutting someone down, and how to be Open-Minded. Guess he never took those to heart.

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:38 PM (8wLr9)

434 I can't believe I've read every one of these comments.

I think we all know a Charles Johnson in real life. 'The guy who says you're disagreeable because the two of you aren't agreeing. The guy who thinks your thoughts are based on blind ideology, but his are on objective consideration.

Posted by: Z Ryan at May 27, 2009 09:41 PM (PDeVA)

435 Here is a direct link to the list of more than 770 who have been banned

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Is this guy sewing a dress out of banned lizards or something?

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2009 09:42 PM (5HGAe)

436 I'll wager that Charles has got a younger girlfriend who is a bit of a leftist and that is responsible for his strange behavior.

Posted by: Scipio at May 27, 2009 09:42 PM (bePn5)

437 #398

Wow, I didn't even realize until know that I'd been banned from LGF!! I recall making a rather innocuous comment challenging CJ's position regarding a debate between two nutters in the news and the "merits" of their positions on Creation/Evolution. It wasn't even a serious challenge, more along the lines of "Really?? You're weighing in on a drunken slapfest between two losers and actually picking a dog in this fight?" He really has gone off the deep end.

Posted by: Scott in OC at May 27, 2009 09:43 PM (LsIYA)

438 Charles was always liberal, which is fine. I couldn't tell you what's happened to him in the past year. The man who (rightly) is unwilling to tar the entire faith of Islam with the evil of the terrorists, and gleefully bans and rejects those who do, is only too happy to tar Christianity as a whole, the Catholic Church as a whole, the Right as a whole, creationists (I believe in evolution, but also in God, which makes me suspect) as a whole. If only he were as fair to those who disagree with him as he is to Islam. LGF used to be the site that fact checks your ass. Now it's the groupthink of those around Charles.

Immediately after the 9/11 atrocities, Rosie O'Donnell gushed about how much she loved W. because he kept her children safe. Years after that, after the shock wore off, she reverted to type and became a truther. Charles was hard left before 9/11. He was mugged by that reality. Now that that issue has quieted down, he's going back to who he was, and systematically alienating his embarrassing readers, who remind him what he _used_ to believe.

Oh well, that's why there's an Internet. Lots of other sites out there, indeed many that were inspired by Charles' previously priceless work.

Posted by: Chloe's Personality Disorder at May 27, 2009 09:44 PM (+ho3C)

439 Charles was bought off. Period. There's no other explanation.

And given thousands by Soros to turn my hobby around, I'd probably do it too. My kids need shoes.

Posted by: . at May 27, 2009 09:44 PM (h6wcn)

440 3. Morning/afternoon/evening open thread.

He used to hammer Atrios for that kind of shit.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 09:45 PM (hoClB)

441 439 Charles was bought off. Period. There's no other explanation.And given thousands by Soros to turn my hobby around, I'd probably do it too. My kids need shoes.

yeh i'd sell out too for some shoes. they'd have to be nice ones though. i have some integrity.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:46 PM (2AvKH)

442 The first several times I read LGF I was surprised anyone thought it was right wing. Something weird there. Remember 1972? McGovern was pro-life and pro-Second Amendment. He was not right wing.
What was most distressing is that he, like many on the other side, seems unable to distinguish between articles of faith for both: Revealed Truth for the Creationists, and an ill-formed scientific theory for the atheists. (And it is ill-formed. You can take my word for it. I have a philosophy degree. Describe the experiment that replicates the "evolution" of, say, an eyeball.) The former is not science, and the latter is not religion. Duh!
He doesn't really have a ponytail, does he? Idk, unless he's trying to be Richard Marcinko....

Posted by: Grant at May 27, 2009 09:47 PM (G4Eqk)

443 give it a couple hours, the Nike shoe spam should cover all your footwear needs, at low prices, and highest qualities.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:47 PM (vZVv7)

444 Charles Johnson is either deliberately myopic or a fool. Obama never went negative? The reason he didn't have to (although this post shows Obama did indeed go negative) is he had his surrogates do the negative for him....all his leftist fanatics in the MSM and blogosphere dug into the life of Sarah Palin's family and the NYTs tried to smear John McCain with a phony sex scandal story.

LGF is a joke site -- completely worthless as a newsource or daily haunt. So long Chucky Johnson, you smuck.

Posted by: Cory at May 27, 2009 09:48 PM (TivDR)

445 Z Ryan: "I think we all know a Charles Johnson in real life. The guy who says you're disagreeable because the two of you aren't
agreeing. The guy who thinks your thoughts are based on blind
ideology, but his are on objective consideration."

Yeah, I hear you. I'm in an ongoing political (email) debate with a lefty just like you describe. He's already laid the ground rules -- I can't cite any conservative-leaning sites or institutions (he tells me to take them with a grain of salt and won't respond to substantive points), but he sends nonsense truthout links to me all the time. He sets the bar of proof high for me, but the bar so low for himself that he can step right over, no problem. That's okay. If I don't lose my mind, it'll just make me a stronger debater, I figure. ...

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:48 PM (8wLr9)

446 cool i likes me some nikes and lace wigs too (whatever the hell they are). this site is perfect.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 09:50 PM (2AvKH)

447 Used-ta, how's he feel about gay porn email spam?

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:50 PM (vZVv7)

448 446
cool i likes me some nikes and lace wigs too (whatever the hell they are). this site is perfect.

I know, where else can you get lousy 80s music videos, lace wigs, Nike shoes, Val-U-Rite, and Chig all from the convenience of one hard hitting gerbil powered website?

It's truly a miracle of modern technology.

or something.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:52 PM (vZVv7)

449 431 I think the fact that CJ rarely had any insight or commentary, is what first caused me to check LGF on a less-than-daily basis... I can get headline links lots of places.
EXACTAMUNDO.
And yet his followers hail him as possessing some immense analytical prowess.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 09:54 PM (voIlD)

450 UncleFacts: Hehe. Who knows? He might just like it.

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:55 PM (8wLr9)

451 Used-ta, I always like to keep the nuclear option on the table.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 09:55 PM (vZVv7)

452 Wow. So I'm not alone. I "found" LGF around 2002 and loved it for what it was then. Now? Charles and the rest of his liberal friends(yes, they are liberals, don' t kid yourselves at the base over there folks) who had a moment(or a few years) of conservative thinking after 9/11 have reverted back to hetro-hating, Christian-hating, "extremist-hating", leftists. Sure, they don't quite slam the door completely shut on a conservative viewpoint if it somewhat jives with their beliefs about islam, but they lost this conservative Christian Patriot a few years back, when the whole tone of the blog went to the "moderate" vibe.
Plus, how many posts about a photo of a bicycle part can you really stand in a week anyway?

Lizard no more.....I've seen the truth behind CJ's short-lived gimmick as a conservative anything....

Posted by: LibertyCalls at May 27, 2009 09:56 PM (AbQhj)

453 CJ reminds me of that Star Trek TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy" with the former great Starfleet captain who went batshit crazy. He'd taken over the insane asylum and insisted that he be addressed as Lord Garth. He even had this crazy hot green chick who kind of reminds me of sharmuta

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 09:56 PM (93F13)

454 I was banned for daring to disagree with Johnson's linear model of politics. You know, everyone fits someone on the "left-middle-right". So Nazis and Republicans and Creationists are all right-wingers, in Johnson's view.

When I pointed out that people rarely fit into that simplistic model and gave the voting history of Muslims in Michigan as the obvious example -- intolerant Charles was clearly annoyed and I was gone. No insults, no nasty language, nothing like that at all. Just skepticism of his political views.

For a blog to be successful, a moderator needs to be tolerant of different opinions. When the moderator starts using his power to kill discussion he disagrees with -- the blog is dead. I'm not sure what happened to Johnson - has his atheism destroyed his tolerance?

Posted by: tomfrompv at May 27, 2009 09:57 PM (GuXeQ)

455 Speaking of making stuff up about Obama:
You couldn't make up Frank Marshall Davis, his communist/pedophile mentor when he was just a lad.
You couldn't make up "muslim" on the registry at the madrasah.
You couldn't make up that AWFUL poem Ace ran the other day.
You couldn't make up the Pakistani room-mate at Columbia.
You couldn't make up the summer trip to Pak. when American passports were banned from travel there.
You couldn't make up that pencil-neck. Jeepers, he makes Bertrand Russell look like Schwartzenneger!
You couldn't make up that he smokes effing menthols, f'r chrissakes!

Posted by: Grant at May 27, 2009 09:58 PM (G4Eqk)

456 UncleFacts: His last comment to me was "Why can't we debate without all the rancor?" All I can do is seethe. Can I waste 'em now?

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 09:59 PM (8wLr9)

457 @443: Plus, their footwear is made of Chinese and Indian remi-quality real hair, need to know!

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 27, 2009 10:01 PM (iafWn)

458 Its heyday was 2002-2003. Not kidding. 2004 wasn't bad either, but
the comment section was both too crowded and thinned out (smart people
wise).

Word. I visited LGF occasionally after 2004 but left for good after the Gates of Vienna folks were banned. And I agree with Ken--Allah is doing a great job of ruining Hot Air too.

Posted by: PA Cat at May 27, 2009 10:01 PM (4hi+h)

459 Can folks give a quick rundown of the best (to date) conservative sites, including Ace? I'd like to redo my links. Thanks!

Posted by: Used-ta at May 27, 2009 10:03 PM (8wLr9)

460 456
UncleFacts: His last comment to me was "Why can't we debate without all
the rancor?" All I can do is seethe. Can I waste 'em now?

You're definitely talking to the wrong guy about when to send the gay porn to the liberal emailer.

My first reply would have been to sign him up to every single ass ramming gay site out there. No debate, no discourse, just tons and tons of giant-cocked, porn spam.

I figure if I can make the liberal say HOLY FUCK, I've already won.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:04 PM (vZVv7)

461 @454

Rule number 1.. never challenge CJ into a debate.

Posted by: Sal at May 27, 2009 10:04 PM (CbyEo)

462 <i>cool i likes me some nikes and lace wigs too (whatever the hell they are). this site is perfect.</i>

Don't forget the drunken kitten photos and hobo BBQ recipes.

Posted by: PA Cat at May 27, 2009 10:04 PM (4hi+h)

463 ooooh hobo BBQ...

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:05 PM (vZVv7)

464 I think of htis quote when i used to visit charles site

"If you're so consumed by hatred for someone, you might as well be loving them, because you're thinking about them for the same amount of time"

If certain groups need to be neglected why spend all your time talking about them. let them fad into obscurity.

I have read on posts here tha tLGF put up a post in response to this. This is what caused me to leave his site, the fact he would look at the COMMENTS of other blogs and paint the bloggers as nuts because some commenters said things he didn't like. The man is becoming an internet dictator on the level of the the daily kos. I am honestly pissed about this whole thing because i LOVED his site. It is like having someone you care about go nuts, you get over it but you still want to see that person but in the back of your mind you know the person you want to see is gone and all the reddeming traits and things you liked about that person have been replace by something you hate.
i am temped to view it but i no longer want to give him the traffic.l for the last six months before i left his site the on;ly thing i went for was the story feed at the top of his blog.

i tried to register once, but i never received a confirmation email with a password. i guess i was pre emptively rejected

Posted by: ben at May 27, 2009 10:05 PM (9tUea)

465 It seems he has Sullivan-itis.

For those who don't remember, Andrew Sullivan used to one of the strongest pro-war voices on the internet. Heck, the left gaybaited him with regularity and dug up some farily embarrassing personal stuff on him.

Then he got obsessed with gay marriage, and suddenly anyone who support Bush or the WoT was a Christianist no better, and probably worse, then the Islamists we were facing.

Looks like for Charles the issue is creationism but the transformation will be the same. It will be amusing to watch the left roll back all their "LGF is racist and fascist" comments over the next few years.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2009 10:06 PM (odYmd)

466 also i hope the turtle holding up our world doesn't shrug

Posted by: ben at May 27, 2009 10:08 PM (9tUea)

467 459
Can folks give a quick rundown of the best (to date) conservative sites, including Ace? I'd like to redo my links. Thanks!

Ace, HotAir, Powerline, JamesBowman

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2009 10:08 PM (odYmd)

468 I think the final straw was when Chuckles demanded that all new members of his blog sniff his bicycle seat.
What a fucking cockholster.

Posted by: jaleach at May 27, 2009 10:09 PM (gHrZU)

469 Sad, but ture nothing there to read. Pissed away a franchise.
Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at May 27, 2009 10:09 PM (2+9Yx)

470 And yet his followers hail him as possessing some immense analytical prowess.
That and they're hoping to lick his ponytail.

Posted by: jaleach at May 27, 2009 10:12 PM (gHrZU)

471 Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.

Posted by: Eric at May 27, 2009 10:15 PM (uKart)

472 Charles just banned me. My account goes back to 2001. I guess asking Charles what's become of his blog because it's like invasion of the body snatchers over there was a little too much for the ponytailed one. LOL I gladly shake the dust off my shoes and walk away.

Posted by: Daver at May 27, 2009 10:15 PM (khPxz)

473 467
459
Can folks give a quick rundown of the best (to date) conservative sites, including Ace? I'd like to redo my links. Thanks!

Ace, HotAir, Powerline, JamesBowman

PEOPLE: Let's not forget The Corner at National review Online, and, of course, neveryetmelted.com

Posted by: Grant at May 27, 2009 10:15 PM (G4Eqk)

474 sad, but true. I used to go to that webiste many times a day. I am a Catholic and am fine with people who do not agree with my faith, but it got to the point some days that all that they did was bash how stupid people that beleive in God are. I am sure they did not see this as I did, but it is how I felt. I actuallly visited that site today and stayed on for about 15 seconds and left. Just not interested anymore.

Posted by: chris at May 27, 2009 10:16 PM (Ee5PM)

475 471
Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.

Good for you. Want a cookie?

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:18 PM (vZVv7)

476 ps., THANK GOD FOR ACE!!!!

Posted by: Daver at May 27, 2009 10:19 PM (khPxz)

477 475 471 Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.Good for you. Want a cookie?
Just trying to understand the anger of which you apparently have a lot.

Posted by: Eric at May 27, 2009 10:19 PM (uKart)

478 CJ reminds me of that Star Trek TOSepisode "Whom Gods Destroy" with the former great Starfleet captain who went batshit crazy.
I saw the TOS "The Ultimate Computer" today with the brilliant Dr. Daystrum [sp?] going nuts along with his humanized M5 computer. "You are great. I am great." So that fits too, kbdabear.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2009 10:21 PM (MB+jN)

479 471
Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly. Posted by: Eric

-----------------------------
And you won't get banned here. See how that works?

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2009 10:21 PM (Of8b2)

480
#136
He's the blogoverse's Arlen Specter, but with less class and intelligence, if that were possible.
BINGO WE HAVE A WINER!
Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at May 27, 2009 10:22 PM (2+9Yx)

481 Just trying to understand the anger of which you apparently have a lot.
And you'd be wrong.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:23 PM (vZVv7)

482 480 471 Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly. Posted by: Eric-----------------------------And you won't get banned here. See how that works?
I agree that's over the top. I almost never comment on either site though.

Posted by: Eric at May 27, 2009 10:23 PM (uKart)

483 You may not be banned here, but I have, because my spies told me.
See how that works?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at May 27, 2009 10:23 PM (0aQsc)

484 You know, someone way back in the thread said that this site was headed the same way as LGF. I don't see it it here. We argue and fight among each other, but we all fight fairly, and respect each other; sort of
Ace knows he has a base audience, and more than a few like me that lurk, but will come in and make our statements. He also has a crew that will come in and post when he is unavailable. We disagree, but we get along. We also will discuss with a troll, as long as they argue cogently.
I agree that the site has changed a bit since I found it in 2003-2004. It has not, however, gotten worse. Witnes, not long ago, when Ace asked us to calm the language down a bit so that he could attract advertizers. We did, not because we are afraid of getting banned, but because we like it here, and want this to continue. We also have a community that is not afraid of the ban stick. We like each other, but we will actively disagree on any point among each other.
We have the gamut of the "tent." We have really really right wing, and we have "moderates." We have at least one lesbian who loves to tease us with her shoes, and we have a gay conservative lawyer. We have hot chicks, of all ages, that mesmerise us with their talk to us. We have an opera singer who aspires to be a physician. we ARE America! AND, we are a family,
Ace owns this blog, but he doen's run it like his own personal empire. He kind of lets it go where we take it. Thats why I come here every day, and I suspect others come here for the same reason.
If it ever changes, for the bad; as LGF has, then I will leave. I suspect, however that the smart military morons that inhabit this space will never let this happen. I, personally, love these people, and dont want that to happen., and will fight it..
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:23 PM (0B4vq)

485 480: And you won't get banned here. See how that works?
______________________________________________________

Quoted for truth.

Posted by: Sal at May 27, 2009 10:24 PM (CbyEo)

486 i imagine a stream of johnson's jock-sniffers will come here and sing his praises.

love the arlen specter comment.

Although i think Olympia Snowe is closer to the mark.

Posted by: sifty at May 27, 2009 10:25 PM (PJFdL)

487 475 471 Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.Good for you. Want a cookie?
Just trying to understand the anger of which you apparently have a lot.

hey i'm all about the love. i don't give a damn about lgf .

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:25 PM (2AvKH)

488 Turtles don't have to rest on anything guys. They swim.

Tortoises walk.

Posted by: fozzy at May 27, 2009 10:25 PM (ccEuN)

489 471 Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.
Good for you.
I don't. So I guess we're even.

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at May 27, 2009 10:26 PM (voIlD)

490 Fuckin' A, well said Kane. Next glass of Glen Fiddich is to you. Not for you, since I am a selfish bastard when it comes to good hooch.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:27 PM (vZVv7)

491 489
Turtles don't have to rest on anything guys. They swim.Tortoises walk.

they run if they're on fire.

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:28 PM (vZVv7)

492 For all my spelling errors, I blame the Valu-Rite.
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:28 PM (0B4vq)

493 462 <i>cool i likes me some nikes and lace wigs too (whatever the hell they are). this site is perfect.</i>Don't forget the drunken kitten photos and hobo BBQ recipes.

i come for the drunken kitten pics and hobo bbq recipes, but i stay for the lace wig spam.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:28 PM (2AvKH)

494 Nice childish attacks here. Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly.

Whats the new term for someone astroturfing for Charles ?

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:29 PM (AoS9J)

495 Hey maybe some one should start a banned little Green Footballs blog?
Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at May 27, 2009 10:29 PM (2+9Yx)

496 480
471
Count me as one Ace of Spades reader who still reads LGF constantly. Posted by: Eric

-----------------------------
And you won't get banned here. See how that works?


Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2009 10:21 PM

He will get banned now for posting at an "enemy" blog without the requisite "Charles only bans those who put up hate comments or breaks the rules". He also forgot to make the Hand Sign that most of us think came from "The Way to Eden" but is really the shape of a Football.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 10:29 PM (93F13)

497 you had me at awsome boobs...

Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:30 PM (vZVv7)

498 Damn, looking at the banned lizards site.

The fact that I recognize posters on that list is staggering. When you start banning people who have been at your site for at least 5 years, it's time to take a deep breath and a hard look in the mirror.

Posted by: Techie at May 27, 2009 10:31 PM (QYuCD)

499 Johnson's linear model of politics

Hah.

Great postulate there - the question of socialism has been answered, just a nuance of just how much or little, it does not register on the political spectrum as seen by the progressive liberals - the spectrum is seen as a range of transnational/world-view on the origin (left) and nationalist/racist to the right.

Posted by: Druid at May 27, 2009 10:33 PM (nFeDb)

500 Hey guys i just expressed my personal enjoyment of LGF and how i wished that it would go back to the LGF that i fell in love with, not the current, in my opinion significantly shittier one, i got -5 in 8 minutes and deleted

Fare thee well charles, this lizards has slammed the door behind him

Posted by: timewarp at May 27, 2009 10:33 PM (y2EIq)

501 496
Hey maybe some one should start a banned little Green Footballs blog?
Kemp
It's already up as LGF2 and it's driving Cahrsel batshit crazy. He's making legal threats everyday
lgf 2.0 blogmacracy

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 10:33 PM (93F13)

502 Whats the new term for someone astroturfing for Charles ?
cock holsters?

Posted by: evil libertarian at May 27, 2009 10:33 PM (z2yq0)

503 But, y'all, it's not very impressive to make fun of him by calling him Chucky, and the ponytail thing...it just makes commenters look juvenile.

You are new here, aren't ya? lol

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 10:33 PM (hoClB)

504 Hey maybe some one should start a banned little Green Footballs blog?

They did. Its called LGF2. I heard it mentioned over there that Charles was trying to get em' shutdown by threatening to sue them.

Shock there.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:34 PM (AoS9J)

505 Hey, put up or shut up. Bannedlgf.com is available.
http://tinyurl.com/o55th4
I am not paying, but it's there!
Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at May 27, 2009 10:34 PM (2+9Yx)

506 too tight pony tail + wd40 fumes=quick slide into oblivion

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2009 10:34 PM (gWmBn)

507 Woo-Hoo!

As a long time fan of LGF and contributor, I was banned due to an innocuous disagreement. After reading above, I made my editorial message/play and now have been forbidden access.

What do they say about "true" liberals? "If you don't agree with me, you don't exist".

Posted by: Ducatioink at May 27, 2009 10:35 PM (U75Ym)

508 Posted by: UncleFacts at May 27, 2009 10:27 PM (vZVv7)
Thanks, Uncle, and you go ahead with your Glenn Fiddich, Havent had a good Scotch in a few. I stick mainly with beer now. I got a new favorite, Macro brew called Dead Pirate. or something like that. Can't read the label ATM.
I hoist one in your general direction, though.
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:36 PM (0B4vq)

509 Banned back in March IIRC. I dared to disagree with chuckles that Sara Palin's religion was part of the reason the GOP lost the election.
He cited as proof........Google searches of Sara Palin + Creationism (1.25 million)and the fact that LGF'rs were talking about it. Yes really. No polls, anecdotes, or anything else. He was rather nasty and condescending the whole time. The mere fact that I dared to challenge him seemed to piss him off. The final straw for him was when I down dinged sharmuta on 3-4 posts of hers in retalliation for her down dinging me for disagreeing with chuckles.

Posted by: Hard Right at May 27, 2009 10:36 PM (ldN8h)

510 I agree. I used to read LGF religiously (oh wait Charles, don't ban be for using the R word). But it seems like the site has transmogrified into a combination of the anti-Jihadist as well as evolution related subjects. I'm just not that into the evolution stuff that I think it's worthy of several posts a week.

Oh yeah, there's also the vaccination posts as well.

Posted by: Dan at May 27, 2009 10:37 PM (Sp+X+)

511 too tight pony tail + wd40 fumes=quick slide into oblivion


Threadwinner

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:38 PM (AoS9J)

512 Can't read the label ATM.

oh god ixnay on the ATMSNAY.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:38 PM (2AvKH)

513 493
For all my spelling errors, I blame the Valu-Rite.
Kane
I blame Bush - you are banned

Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at May 27, 2009 10:38 PM (93F13)

514 Seriously, a big welcome to you, Crouching Puma. This is a great place and it'll be fun to get to knowabuse you.

Fixed. Oh, you have a tit pic?

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 10:40 PM (hoClB)

515 510

Banned back in March IIRC. I dared to disagree with chuckles that
Sara Palin's religion was part of the reason the GOP lost the election.

BAD MAN!! To the CORNFIELD

Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at May 27, 2009 10:40 PM (93F13)

516 Can't read the label ATM.


Joan, thats about enough of that. : )

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:40 PM (AoS9J)

517 515 Seriously, a big welcome to you, Crouching Puma. This is a great place and it'll be fun to get to knowabuse you. Fixed. Oh, you have a tit pic?

you guys are pigs.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:41 PM (2AvKH)

518 516
510

Banned back in March IIRC. I dared to disagree with chuckles that
Sara Palin's religion was part of the reason the GOP lost the election.

BAD MAN!! To the CORNFIELD


Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at May 27, 2009 10:40 PM

It's so AWESOME the way you turned him into a Jack-in-the Box!

Posted by: sharmuta at May 27, 2009 10:41 PM (93F13)

519 you had me at awsome boobs...
WHERE? I disnt see sis, Ginger, PGIF, or AtC anywhere today!
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:41 PM (0B4vq)

520 Reason enough not to go to LGF ?

No famous epic Overnight threads that get the parents screaming at the kids.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:43 PM (AoS9J)

521 I wrote that to the Puma and I'm a chick. She can keep her tits to herself. Just giving her a welcome.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 10:43 PM (0aQsc)

522 Wow, what a revelation this thread is. Especially #398. I used to be active commenting at LGF, but I went down that list and most of my favorites from a year or two back have been banned! Mamma Winger and Babba Zee? Too funny.

I haven't been banned - who knows after this post - but I hardly comment or visit LGF anymore because it just isn't interesting anymore. If I want to learn Ajax I'll buy a book, you know? And the creationists and Nazis under every unturned stone thing is wearing a bit thin. Now, every conservative pundit is EEEEEEEEEVIL and he's taking on El Rushbo? The guy after Reagan most responsible for the conservative resurgence? Too mucking futch.

I like Charles - he's a guitarist/I'm a guitarist - but he's going down the path to utter ruin. The number one psychological tic of a megalomaniac is THE INABILITY TO SUFFER OPINIONS THAT DIFFER FROM YOUR OWN. He's got that one down pat now, judging from the astonishing banned list I just read.

Another is to surround yourself with sycophants. Check.

I could go on, but really, what's the use? With apologies to Veep Biden, I'm pretty sure I have a higher IQ than he does.

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 10:44 PM (O9yAg)

523 The fact he has suckups like Sharmuta, Irish Rose, and others troll other sites for him to snitch back to him is creepy enough. But now? He is openly urging his followers to dig up dirt on anybody and everybody with whom he disagrees, so that he can publish it in the hopes of..well, I dunno.

So far, two of the guys he has outed strike me as odd ducks anyway, so that is irrelevant. But he (allegedly) used the PayPal donation information of another person to out them.

Also, Charles is pissed at Ace for not policing his comments? What about Charles' own disclaimers about the comments "don't reflect..."? And didn't Ace go to bat for Charles back last year wen a St. Louis newspaper attacked him and LGF for some vile comments (that Charles deleted) about a mosque being built?

Nice to see how Charles returns a favor.


Posted by: Shirlena at May 27, 2009 10:44 PM (qyin7)

524 Oops, joan is here. I incluse her in the Titty cavalcade.
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:44 PM (0B4vq)

525 522 I wrote that to the Puma and I'm a chick. She can keep her tits to herself. Just giving her a welcome.

i was being facetious. they treat me that way too and i'm pretty bad myself.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:44 PM (2AvKH)

526 Crouching Puma? Sounds like he needs to lay off the fiber. Too much is a bad thing ya know.

Posted by: Hard Right at May 27, 2009 10:45 PM (ldN8h)

527 Oops, joan is here. I incluse her in the Titty cavalcade.
Kane

lol, thanks.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:46 PM (2AvKH)

528 I've seen Joan, I've seen.
Ace after dark is lively.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 10:46 PM (0aQsc)

529 She can keep her tits to herself.


Why thats just selfish. We believe in sharing here.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:46 PM (AoS9J)

530 Shit, include, even
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:46 PM (0B4vq)

531 I've seen Joan, I've seen.
Ace after dark is lively.

i'm trying to behave now though.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:48 PM (2AvKH)

532 Ace after dark is lively.



Ace After Dark.

Love it.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:48 PM (AoS9J)

533 I haven't been banned - who knows after this post - but I hardly
comment or visit LGF anymore because it just isn't interesting anymore.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 10:44 PM

Cahrsel's Flying Monkeys have one tab on this thread and another at Little Gonad Fondler's open, so it's a safe bet that you'll be sent to the cornfield before midnight.

Anyone want to place bets on how long it takes for hucbald to get the ban stick? I place my bet on 45 minutes from my post here

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 10:48 PM (93F13)

534 LGF used to be fun but Charles is turning into Captain QueegBligh. He's going to be demanding to know what happened to his strawberriescoconuts pretty soon.

Fixed the metaphor.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 10:48 PM (hoClB)

535 It IS selfish and I regret that I said what she should do with her tits.
She should speak for her girls.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 10:49 PM (0aQsc)

536 Wow, a lot of you lasted a lot longer than I did, as far as reading LGF. I was damn impressed by CJ taking Rather's scalp, butin 2004 I stopped reading right after I got to Korea for assignment.
Mainly, the blog was damn boring. One of CJ's quirks is that once he finds a "cause," he'll worry it to death like a dog on an old chew rope. I don't mind a jihad post once in a while, but he'd post six or seven in the same day, and the comments were generally just people mouthing what CJ had said over 300-400 posts. It grew tiresome really fast.
I'd contend that CJ is different from John Cole, however, in that CJ was once a committed leftist that briefly "went native" when it allowed him to indulge his more general anti-religion fetish. The Rather Memo Incident ended up saddling him as a conservative, and it took a while for him to come back around to his original political leanings once traffic started dying off.
Cole, OTOH, shows no political integrity AT ALL. He basically turned from conservative to liberal because his site was invaded by leftist trolls and he gave up trying to defend conservative principles. Whereas CJ is becoming a leftist apologist because that is what he was before, Cole became a leftist in order to fit in at his own damn blog, and because he got tired of being on what he perceived to be the losing side. I guarantee if inflation and unemployment hit double digits, and if Afghanistan turns into a bigger cluster-fuck than Iraq, he's going to start questioning whether Obama has what it takes. If the Dems get clocked in 2010 or 2012, he'll switch back to being a conservative unless he gets completely beat down by his commenters, or he'll start banning to avoid the incredulous wails of "why?"

Posted by: A Lock of Che Guevara's Chest Hair at May 27, 2009 10:50 PM (AeZjJ)

537 535
He smooshed them into oblivion on his bike seat.

Posted by: Hard Right at May 27, 2009 10:50 PM (ldN8h)

538 Remember who coined the phrase.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 10:50 PM (0aQsc)

539 Can we start a "cool Facts about Charles Johnson" thread?

*crickets*

Anyone?

Bueller?

Posted by: eddiebear at May 27, 2009 10:51 PM (qyin7)

540 joan, I kinda agree with the guy who said that we guys want to see all tits, including hers. We might ask her to toll them back up in her bra, but we we still want to see them.
Unlike yours which I bet are a perky and deliscious.
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:51 PM (0B4vq)

541 (But I dont expect careful reasoning from the Ace of Spades crowd, either.)
the only proper response is obviously a haiku.
bj pedals slow
ass licking commences fast
cock sucking douche bag

Posted by: evil libertarian at May 27, 2009 10:51 PM (z2yq0)

542 Whatever LGF was, or has become, it has always had one major weakneess: too many comments. It has been unwieldy for years; I long ago stopped reading them.

Posted by: flooflyparisparamus at May 27, 2009 10:53 PM (SRr22)

543 It IS selfish and I regret that I said what she should do with her tits.
She should speak for her girls.

that's why america is so great and that is why fundamentalist islam hates us. women have freedom to do what they will with their own bodies and ourexpress theirsexuality. that is very threatening to some barbarians who treat women as chattel.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:53 PM (2AvKH)

544 Can we start a "cool Facts about Charles Johnson" thread?
This is no joke. Three days after I got banned at LGF, I had a flat tire. On my bicycle. It was the curse of the crazy bicyclist!

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 27, 2009 10:54 PM (5jf38)

545 "Just trying to understand the anger of which you apparently have a lot."

I'm pretty liberal in my political views and agree with Charles about a lot of stuff, but when your blog turns into a monomanical hatefest and you start banning everyone who disagrees with you...count me out.

Charles blog used to be about issues and analysis, now it's about Charles. The cult of personality that he's cultivating is perverse and I pity anyone (i.e. you) that finds it attractive.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 10:55 PM (Nljcu)

546 Oh, and for the remaining 10 asslickers over at LGF who spend more time snooping and snitching:

()!()

Posted by: eddiebear at May 27, 2009 10:55 PM (qyin7)

547 Anyone want to place bets on how long it takes for hucbald to get the ban stick? I place my bet on 45 minutes from my post here

20,000 Quatloos on 25 minutes!

Posted by: The Providers at May 27, 2009 10:55 PM (93F13)

548 My favorite saying by Charles after he whips out the banstick on someone whos having even the slightest disagreement with him ?


I was just saving him from the inevitable meltdown post


A real humanitarian that Charles.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:56 PM (AoS9J)

549 Charles Johnson is like the bastard product of a sexual encounter between Humphrey Bogart in "The Caine Mutiny" and the Queen of Hearts from "Alice in Wonderland."

Posted by: Crusty pretending to be a liberal at May 27, 2009 10:56 PM (qzgbP)

550 i already saw inherit the wind, good movie
It was almost completely fictitious, so I hope you're not basing your opinions on it.
In other news, Braveheart was not ..how shall I put it .. entirely accurate.

Posted by: flenser at May 27, 2009 10:56 PM (+wqCu)

551 Okay, got another fun day in the the ICU tomorrow. Time to go to to bed. night all!
Kane

Posted by: Kanelin at May 27, 2009 10:57 PM (0B4vq)

552 cj is irrelevant, as is lgf.

Posted by: newsjunkie_ky at May 27, 2009 10:57 PM (GTl96)

553 1 million Rupees on 10 minutes.

Posted by: Hard Right at May 27, 2009 10:58 PM (ldN8h)

554 women have freedom to do what they will with their own bodies and ourexpress theirsexuality


Pics please. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 10:58 PM (AoS9J)

555 546:

and what is even sadder are the few remaining toadies (I'm talking to you, Hoosier Hoops, Iron Fist, Irish Rose, Sharmuta, Real West, Killgore, Zombie) who are so desperate to earn and keep his affection.

Hey, fuckfaces, come over here and try to debate, instead of running like scared children to the deadbeat hippie!

Posted by: shirlena at May 27, 2009 10:58 PM (qyin7)

556 joan, I kinda agree with the guy who said that we guys want to see all tits, including hers. We might ask her to toll them back up in her bra, but we we still want to see them.
Unlike yours which I bet are a perky and deliscious.
Kane

well i won't show you my entire boobage. but i do show a little cleavage on some of my pics at my yearbook site if you are that interested. i'm pretty skinny and have small boobs.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 10:59 PM (2AvKH)

557 i'm pretty skinny and have small boobs.


Hey joan, more than a mouth full is a waste.



O.K., I'm lying here and just trying to curry favor with you. But you do have very sexy eyes.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 11:02 PM (AoS9J)

558 i already saw inherit the wind, good movie
It was almost completely fictitious, so I hope you're not basing your opinions on it.
In other news, Braveheart was not ..how shall I put it .. entirely accurate.

i don't know how accurate it was and i don't care, that was the point i was trying to make.to me darwinismis a non issue. thought that was pretty obvious.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 11:03 PM (2AvKH)

559 I have read all the way down this thread. Often, it's been noted that Charles' two claims to decent blogging, are the Rather thing, and the Fauxtography revealings. I wonder if any here are aware that it was his commenters who did the footwork, uncovered the messes, and told him about it.. And, that he took the material ran with it, dropping, as time went by, any crediting or hat tips to those who essentially made him famous in the news blogging world.

In the same vein, that is why his blog is sinking, having not much interesting to read anymore --he's banned all the lovely diggers footworkers thnkers..... : )

Posted by: Ma Sands at May 27, 2009 11:03 PM (1rd6F)

560 I'd tell Pam Geller about this thread but she's still mad at me for commenting on her hooters. If she doesn't want to hear anything about her pet owls that's ok, I just don't understand why she was so touchy

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 11:04 PM (93F13)

561 O.K., I'm lying here and just trying to curry favor with you. But you do have very sexy eyes.

i have heard that mouthful thing a few times and never beleived it. most men prefer big boobs i think.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 11:05 PM (2AvKH)

562 Often, it's been noted that Charles' two claims to decent blogging, are the Rather thing

It was a Freeper who first discovered the memo similarities. Chuckles just put up a GIF comparing the two and hogged all the glory.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 11:06 PM (93F13)

563 Daver:
Charles just banned me. My account goes back to 2001. I guess asking Charles what's become of his blog because it's like invasion of the body snatchers over there was a little too much for the ponytailed one. LOL I gladly shake the dust off my shoes and walk away.

Yeah, I was reading the LGF comment thread, and when I saw your post, I thought "He's toast."

I stopped visiting about 3 years ago, slowly but surely. I removed his link about a month ago.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:07 PM (hoClB)

564 CJshouldwrite his autobiographyand title it"Surrounded by Fascists: The Charles Johnson Story."While you're reading it, if you disagree with anything, a mechanism slams the book shut and won't let you open it again.

Posted by: Crusty at May 27, 2009 11:08 PM (qzgbP)

565 560 Ma Sands,
You are so right, all he ever did was copy/paste/link. And, if he did deem to write anything, it would consist of a few words either in agreement or not.

Posted by: newsjunkie_ky at May 27, 2009 11:10 PM (GTl96)

566 I'd tell Pam Geller about this thread but she's still mad at me for commenting on her hooters... I just don't understand why she was so touchy
anyone vlog-ing in a bikini really should expect such things.

Posted by: evil libertarian at May 27, 2009 11:10 PM (z2yq0)

567 I'd tell Pam Geller about this thread but she's still mad at me for commenting on her hooters... I just don't understand why she was so touchy
anyone vlog-ing in a bikini really should expect such things.

lol good point.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 11:12 PM (2AvKH)

568 566 I did read somewhere the person who gave him the leads and how that whole story developed, but I don't have the facts anymore.
Rathergate was not his story originally, he took info and lizards fleshed it out.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 27, 2009 11:13 PM (0aQsc)

569 You know, someone way back in the thread said that this site was headed the same way as LGF. I don't see it it here.

I don't either. Ace and the co-bloggers can laugh at themselves. When people start taking themselves too seriously, trouble always follows.
151
In defense of Mr Johnson:

1) He codes his own site by hand. Seems self taught. That is cool


That's not a good thing. His site has ALWAYS been a huge resource hog. That is one of the sites that I could 'look forward' to freeze up. Downloading the equivalent of the Library of Congress to read a simple thread is wasteful, pointless, and evidence of a horrible design.


Posted by: liontooth at May 27, 2009 11:13 PM (rEPj1)

570 LGF used to be a good blog. Now it's just a damn waste of time.

Posted by: maddogg at May 27, 2009 11:13 PM (4sLNA)

571 1 million Rupees on 10 minutes.

$10,000,000,000,000 zimbabwean in 15 minutes.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:16 PM (hoClB)

572 Actually CJ rocks when it comes to his web engine - He will not only disappear the offensive comment but the last year's or so as well.

Would recommend him to work for Barrack, but he may already be.

Posted by: Druid at May 27, 2009 11:17 PM (nFeDb)

573 570 You know, someone way back in the thread said that this site was headed the same way as LGF. I don't see it it here.I don't either. Ace and the co-bloggers can laugh at themselves. When people start taking themselves too seriously, trouble always follows.151 In defense of Mr Johnson: 1) He codes his own site by hand. Seems self taught. That is cool That's not a good thing. His site has ALWAYS been a huge resource hog. That is one of the sites that I could 'look forward' to freeze up. Downloading the equivalent of the Library of Congress to read a simple thread is wasteful, pointless, and evidence of a horrible design.

it does not matter really the iranians and the norks are going to nuke us soon in our sleep. of course we will all be in bread lines in the coldhoping for the sweet release of death anyway. cheer up, have another drink of valu riteand some more bbq'd hobo while you can still enjoy it.

Posted by: joan at May 27, 2009 11:18 PM (2AvKH)

574 Actually CJ rocks when it comes to his web engine - He will not only disappear the offensive comment but the last year's or so as well.

Actually, he will wipe the ENTIRE HISTORY of a banned commenter. Very Stalin-esque.

Gordon (an admitted troll) from LGF had chronicalled the Eterally Damned here:

http://lgfbannedandblocked.blogspot.com/

Interesting read.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:20 PM (hoClB)

575 It was a guy named Buckhead at Free Republic who first noticed the proportional font from MS Word in the Rathergate fiasco. CJ did the throbbing memo post later.

http://hedgehogcentral.blogspot.com/2005/11/
rathergate-buckhead-speaks.html

I don't know what "Tiny URL" is so you'll have to delete the return (Sorry).

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 11:20 PM (O9yAg)

576 I hear he's working on Ban-O-Matic 1.1 Beta Autobanning software. Now bans those on Twitter anywhere who say anything positive about creationists, anti-jihadists, Ron Paul, tea parties, Fox News, Pam Geller, and Ace of Spades.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 11:20 PM (93F13)

577 Actually CJ rocks when it comes to his web engine - He will not only
disappear the offensive comment but the last year's or so as well.

That's like 1 line of SQL. Not really brain surgery.

Posted by: apotheosis at May 27, 2009 11:22 PM (xWk3U)

578 572
$10,000,000,000,000 zimbabwean in 15 minutes.
I'll see your $10,000,000,000,000 zimbabwean and raise you 20 million inkrugerrrands in 12.2 minutes.

Posted by: Hard Right at May 27, 2009 11:23 PM (ldN8h)

579 Oh, and Gordon's other blog, including the Great Wipeout:

http://nodrogsgreatesthits.blogspot.com/2008/08/banned-and-blocked-nodrog.html


(Disclamer: "Nodrog" was always rather annoying, but he did document the banning history of many of the LGF old-guard pretty well)

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:23 PM (hoClB)

580 I stopped going to LGF a month and a half ago. I'd had enough. I won't be going back either. I did the same thing years ago with Andrew Sullivan when he went whacko before Bush's reelection--dropped him an email and have avoided all links to his writing ever since. I only read the headlines on blogs pointing out the latest idiocy from him but I have no interest in reading what he vomited up. Johnson is now in the same boat.

Posted by: SamIam at May 27, 2009 11:23 PM (uwn4a)

581 I'll see your $10,000,000,000,000 zimbabwean and raise you 20 million inkrugerrrands in 12.2 minutes.

Okay, I'm all in for US$500,000,000,000! (well, US$ in 2020)

Posted by: chemjeff at May 27, 2009 11:24 PM (kw6LA)

582 Charles committed the ultimate blogging sin: He got boring.

Posted by: Socratease at May 27, 2009 11:25 PM (mJx/L)

583 Hey hucbald, has Lord Charles banned you yet? I've got quatloos riding on this

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2009 11:26 PM (93F13)

584 560
I have read all the way down this thread. Often, it's been noted that
Charles' two claims to decent blogging, are the Rather thing, and the
Fauxtography revealings. I wonder if any here are aware that it was his
commenters who did the footwork, uncovered the messes, and told him
about it.. And, that he took the material ran with it, dropping,
as time went by, any crediting or hat tips to those who essentially
made him famous in the news blogging world.In
the same vein, that is why his blog is sinking, having not much
interesting to read anymore --he's banned all the lovely diggers
footworkers thnkers..... : )

His model was quite good - very collaborative - he'd post something, say like a video of an airline test explosion, noting that it looked odd, and take well-informed opinions in the comments and expand on them.

For example, this one, just two years ago
http://tinyurl.com/pwj63v

Not so much anymore.

Posted by: Druid at May 27, 2009 11:28 PM (nFeDb)

585 "Charles committed the ultimate blogging sin: He got boring."

Hmmmm. I see his compulsive banning and defensiveness as an ego-related psychopathy, and the bore-factor as a symptom arising from that.

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 11:30 PM (O9yAg)

586 Well, there's no posts at LGF under "hucbald", but since "hucbald" didn't say if he posted under that name, I would say the results are inconclusive.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:30 PM (hoClB)

587 FYI - This is what got me (and get you) "forbidden access":
That's it -

David Brock

Andrew Sullivan

Charles Johnson

Buh-bye

Posted by: Ducatioink at May 27, 2009 11:31 PM (U75Ym)

588 HEY - LGF2.0 guys!!! ( undercover ex-lizard waves to everyone he knows from years past!) I'm trying to register there at the "stalker blog"

In my best CJ/LIZARDOID ( make that "ex-lizardoid") voice...


bwahahahahahhaha!

Now that I've found Ace( the comments are drawing RAVE REVIEWS at 2.0 you guys!) and LGF2.0 I don't feel like I was the only one going nuts!? Everyone over there with any sense and independent thinking has been banned or has left! hahaha....

what a great thing to find this blog and 2.0

God, I am in heaven tonight over this! WHOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO!

( can't wait to talk to you guys again!)

signed,

OWL

Posted by: LibertyCalls at May 27, 2009 11:33 PM (AbQhj)

589 586
"Charles committed the ultimate blogging sin: He got boring."





Hmmmm. I see his compulsive banning and defensiveness as an ego-related
psychopathy, and the bore-factor as a symptom arising from that.

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 11:30 PM

Try your LGF account now. There's guys in Vegas who have this up on the board and it's getting good action

Posted by: Moe Green at May 27, 2009 11:33 PM (93F13)

590 Yup. One of the bootlickers just made the "No True Scotsman" statement.

Here we go.

Posted by: shirlena at May 27, 2009 11:34 PM (qyin7)

591 587
Well, there's no posts at LGF under "hucbald", but since "hucbald"
didn't say if he posted under that name, I would say the results are
inconclusive.

His nickname links to his blog. Chuckles knows who he is.

Posted by: Moe Green at May 27, 2009 11:35 PM (93F13)

592 "584 Hey hucbald, has Lord Charles banned you yet? I've got quatloos riding on this"

Well, if I go to LGF it says I'm logged in, so I guess not. Don't ask me to attempt a comment though. LOL!

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 11:38 PM (O9yAg)

593 I wonder how many times Charles instinctively reached for the ban stick while reading comments here.

The real problem IMHO is that there are a lot of people on our side who are here for whatever reason here but not out of respect for the values and cause. For Charles it's his beef with islamists. However since they don't give two cents about the cause once it stands in way of their ego guess what will have to give way.

Same thing happened if I remember correctly with Terry Schiavo's husband. He was a nominal Republican but when Republican values and Republicans stood in the way of him enjoying his life he didn't think twice and started blogging for Daily Kos. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: AlexD at May 27, 2009 11:40 PM (drTap)

594 Utterly fascinating. I've seen more new names here than I have in quite sometime.
Welcome. Ace has rules, ya know. Just sayin'. Just ask about the 1400 ct. thread. And the C**t ban. Scrunt is okay, though.

Charles Johnson lost me when he simultaneously went off on Spencer, Bostum, Wilders, Geller, Limbaugh, ........ well, Spencer really. Is there anyone out there as informed as RS regarding Jihad? I think not. That was the straw. cj? irrelevant.

Posted by: Derak at May 27, 2009 11:45 PM (AXQnB)

595 LGF went from my #1 blog to, well, I haven't been there in a couple months at least. It had a good comment section and I liked the user links, but I now get a little quesy even thinking about the place.
The good news is that Ace is now my favorite place.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at May 27, 2009 11:45 PM (gbGqE)

596 Traffic to LGF was up 40% last month.



He must be gaining a lot more readers than he's losing.



Must suck to be on the losing side every.single.time, eh?

http://tinyurl.com/pwswjc

What happened to LGF?

It got well.

Posted by: poon at May 27, 2009 11:49 PM (Ix+3R)

597 Guess that depends on your definition of "well."

If for you well=useless, then I'd say you hit the nail on the head!

Posted by: LibertyCalls at May 27, 2009 11:50 PM (AbQhj)

598 The funniest part to me is even the scientists call it.......wait for it.....
the THEORY of evolution........Hmmm
Seems they CANT PROVE EVOLUTION either!!
Go figger chuckeless.
He isliving proof stupid people shouldn breed!!!

Posted by: Fercryinoutloud at May 27, 2009 11:51 PM (wG+y0)

599 Claim your honored place in the Book of the Banned!
And let the bootage continue!

Posted by: Kirly at May 27, 2009 11:54 PM (Uojav)

600 What happened to LGF?It got well.


Yaaaay !!!!,........ LGF gained members from Kos and Huffpo. You guys must be so proud.


Now go back home to LGF and get your fuckin' shine box.

Posted by: Blazer at May 27, 2009 11:55 PM (AoS9J)

601 Well, I'm about to turn into a pumpkin, so night all. AoS has moved up from "when linked to I'll nose around" to "I'll have to check that every day." IOW, right next to TJR.

Zzzzzzz...

Posted by: Hucbald at May 27, 2009 11:55 PM (O9yAg)

602 Well, I'm about to turn into a pumpkin, so night all. AoS has moved up from "when linked to I'll nose around" to "I'll have to check that every day." IOW, right next to TJR.

Mr Burns: Exxxcellent! MWAHAHAHAHAH!

Snagged another one. Our moroncult is a-growin'.

Posted by: cheshirecat at May 27, 2009 11:57 PM (hoClB)

603 Gawd,
I just got into a clusterfawk over there on lgf.
I was talking about the dollar collapse, and suddenly I was attacked as a Paulbot and cursed at.
What a pack of little twats...

Posted by: TexasJew at May 27, 2009 11:59 PM (Ctjeq)

604 Maybe Johnson is the one who had a meltdown. I live in the south bay and recognized his pix of the beaches and pv peninsula around here - along with the expose on Rather his blog was great reading. Plus Johnson was picking up mySQL, was a mac enthusiast, and seemed a genuine good guy.

But geez, after posting a few comments that were just skeptical of his views on what a "right winger" is -- I'm banned. And he's so snide with those who disagree with him these days -- and for no reason either, Johnson is not a learned man and therefore shouldn't take on airs he can't back up.

Maybe thats why he's so quick to ban anyone who argues back. He knows he can't handle the back-and-forth.

Anyways I'll have to go check out LFG2.

Posted by: tomfrompv at May 28, 2009 12:01 AM (GuXeQ)

605 Who is this Ace guy? And why do we like him?

Posted by: wHODAT at May 28, 2009 12:03 AM (+sBB4)

606 Welcome to the club!

Posted by: SaTx at May 28, 2009 12:05 AM (ORb6i)

607 I guess he is one of those people who support whoever happens to be in office and alters their views to conform to the perceived ideology of the day. He and his bike apparently ride with the tide like political lemmings.
Who knows? But now over the top government spending, the destruction of contract law and appointees like Samantha Power seem to be AOK with the lizard king.

Posted by: Cara at May 28, 2009 12:08 AM (w9sX3)

608 600

How did you get those banned names??

Posted by: Sal at May 28, 2009 12:08 AM (CbyEo)

609 "Must suck to be on the losing side every.single.time, eh?"

Isn't that what Russians said to the Poles?

How proud you must be for scraping up Kos' sloppy seconds after banning anyone with an original thought. Have fun compiling the new enemies list and purging Charles' past posts of threads that might create cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Jason at May 28, 2009 12:09 AM (Nljcu)

610 Drew - You have not lived until you have been banned by Charles @ LGF. I think it took me 30 seconds. It is an echo chamber for those who worship his wonderfulness and that is all.

Posted by: Robohobo at May 28, 2009 12:15 AM (FG59Y)

611 LGF is one of the reasons I check blogs at all. It all started for me around RatherGate. He reproduced the fake memos and the rest is history.
But now for me, Ace is the place.
I come for the news and stay for the #1 commenters in the blogosphere.
And for the occasional haiku and flame-war threads.

Posted by: Phoenix at May 28, 2009 12:15 AM (VQRZD)

612 I was a "lizard" since the Dan Rather thing, but a couple months ago I made the mistake of questioning Charles attack on Ann Coulters book, and I said I believed in a higher power, and I took a vicious tongue lashing. I requested Charles remove me from posting and he obliged. I was a pretty mellow poster. my name there was Nigella.

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:16 AM (p6dZy)

613 575
Actually CJ rocks when it comes to his web engine - He will not only
disappear the offensive comment but the last year's or so as well.





Actually, he will wipe the ENTIRE HISTORY of a banned commenter. Very Stalin-esque.

little itty bitty sarc tag missed
/s

Did not bother to check that ENTIRE HISTORY part, but it does leave HTs on the front page...

There was one poster that asked explicitly that his HTs be deleted as well as closing the account. Account closed. Front page HTs not.

Posted by: Druid at May 28, 2009 12:17 AM (nFeDb)

614 Nigella,

Go to #600 and enter your name.

Posted by: Druid at May 28, 2009 12:19 AM (nFeDb)

615 What's going on at LGF? I don't know. I cut Charles loose from my list of bookmarks a couple months ago and I haven't looked back.

He's a good guy and I enjoyed his blog for a very long time. I enjoyed, as James Lileks put it, "free ice cream."

But after he showed extreme distaste for the Tea Parties, I realized he was just picking fights with us for no good reason. He doesn't like us any more. It was the same way with Andrew Sullivan--one morning he woke up and decided that he didn't like us any more. Don't obsess over it, just move on.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at May 28, 2009 12:21 AM (wVHIx)

616 I use to go to LGF before he had registration and was one of the early sign ups.
The early days trolls (there was some whoppers) would get hammered ruthlessly as the site cleaned up it got more stale.
My favorite poster was Bigel that was one ornery joo (banned).
I got banned for posting at LGF 2.0 mentioning the change the site went through.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 28, 2009 12:22 AM (1tvww)

617 Druid, I wasn't banned, I quit after a night of negative dings and many deleted posts. I don't think I can claim banning. Mine was self imposed.

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:23 AM (p6dZy)

618 Nigella - I remember you back in the day!
I was the guy who was at that Kinko's in Abilene when Bill Burkett came in to fax his little letter.
Sad, really. I think there are lot of Mobys over there at lgf now...

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 12:25 AM (Ctjeq)

619 Country dodged a bullet when Bork didn't make it, Charles says tonight.
Pure CJ. Pure shit.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 28, 2009 12:28 AM (7FgWm)

620 Texas Jew. It is sad what happened there.I was about as non-confrontational as you could be, but just one little disagreement with Charles sent his loyal "followers" after me. Who the hell is this Sharmuta character? She seemed to be his pit bull! I think it really got strange when he put in his rating system, He always got the most up-dings, because everyone always fawned over everything he said. Really sick....

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:32 AM (p6dZy)

621 Who Knows, he really said that about Bork? He sounds worse than Markos"Screw them" Moulitos.

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:34 AM (p6dZy)

622 I guess that the 9/11 thing has begun to wear off for some folks.
Next year, it'll be ...trashing Israel!

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 12:34 AM (Ctjeq)

623 Who Knows, he really said that about Bork? He sounds worse than Markos"Screw them" Moulitos.
It's even worse than that. Yesterday, Chucky dragged out Ted Kennedy's old lie that Robert Bork was a creationist.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 28, 2009 12:40 AM (5jf38)

624 I went over to see after reading here, and that is whatI read, Donna.
Don't want to be an Irish Rose or Sharmuta, soI won't be doing that again.
It's like getting dog crap on your shoes.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 28, 2009 12:41 AM (7FgWm)

625 What a stupid poont.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 12:41 AM (MB+jN)

626 Donna, my story is similar. I posted often, but I was pretty mainstreamn and mellow over there. I got booted for only agreeing 80% with CJ on the evolution teaching issues. Conform or be cast out, I guess.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at May 28, 2009 12:41 AM (gbGqE)

627 Well I decided to add my name to the banned list . I guess being blocked is just as good. It was great to read some of the names of the people I recognized like mama winger and desert sage. They too were pretty mellow. Don't know why they were banned.

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:48 AM (p6dZy)

628 Donna:
I just finished commenting at lgf, and it's like another world, with the "updings" and sycophants and weird lingo like GAZE. I got told to "fuck myself" three times in a row by different posters. One was stupid enough to obliquely threaten meandto link to his website with his phone number and address on it.
That could make it easy for the Texas Attorney General, I suppose.
I noticed the posters there are very chummy with each other, like high school kids. It's like a damn cult. I mentioned Obama's monetary policy and it was like a pack of tiny juvenile Piranhas attacking me as a Paulbot.
Strange people. Some are fine, I believe, but there are a number of others that never would have been allowed on that site back in 2004.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 12:48 AM (Ctjeq)

629 Texas, I agree, it does seem to be sort of a cult there. I really liked some of the posters there, like mama winger and New york Nana, and even Mandy for her sharp wit. But in the last couple of months something strange has happened.They do seem like a bunch of zombies.Sharmuta being the worst.

Posted by: Donna at May 28, 2009 12:52 AM (p6dZy)

630 Yay, I just got blocked, after one of hissycophants asked him to, after I was responded to by this:
re: #323 westtexasjew
Go fuck yourself.
- I've been posting there since 2003, if not earlier.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 12:57 AM (Ctjeq)

631 I mentioned Obama's monetary policy and it was like a pack of tiny juvenile Piranhas attacking me as a Paulbot.
Those idiots seem to think that anyone who objects to inflation must favor a gold standard. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 28, 2009 01:02 AM (5jf38)

632 632
I noticed that. One clown actually said that we could borrow as much from China as we could ever need, since the world could not survive without our consumption, as if they were a bunch of New Guinea natives in somedamn Cargo Cult.
I really don't want to lose my posting privileges.
In fact, I am the only paleontologist to ever post on his site, so the evolution thing was never an issue.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 01:08 AM (Ctjeq)

633 I really think those guys must not remember what inflation was like during the Carter years. It's going to get a whole lot worse.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 28, 2009 01:11 AM (5jf38)

634 In fact, I am the only paleontologist to ever post on his site, so the evolution thing was never an issue.
They accuse everyone else of being a creationist, so I'm not sure your being a paleontologist will stop them.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at May 28, 2009 01:13 AM (5jf38)

635 635
The level of discourse there is cult-like, with a weird Kim Il Sung tinge to it.
I was getting very strange reactions to what I consider mild posts.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 28, 2009 01:19 AM (Ctjeq)

636
The farther we get away from 9-11 2001, the faster Charles Johnson drifts back to his liberal roots.

Posted by: Phil at May 28, 2009 01:23 AM (oht2m)

637 609 600How did you get those banned names??
Posted by: Sal at May 28, 2009 12:08 AM (CbyEo)

just collected tehm over the years. many contributors to the list.

Posted by: Kirly at May 28, 2009 01:33 AM (Uojav)

638 Drew did you miss the thread here that because commenters were critical of him he went and removed AoS from his blogroll. Not to mention all his sycophants coming over here and demanding Ace tell everyone to stop it. And then there were the people he banned on his website solely for commenting here as well and preferring this to LGF.

Shut up! He didn't.? Isn't this the dude that gets all pissed off when someone in the media who attribute his commenters comments to him? I do believe I've seen him pissing his pants over that.

---

3. Morning/afternoon/evening open thread.

These three categories now comprise 99% of LGF

Maybe he's angling to be the rights lazy blogger equivalent of Atrios? Leftards swarm to his endless "open teh bog" pearls of wisdom.


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Someone

I was just thinking about the run up to the '06 elections and Ace's getting a LOT of milage out of Jim Webb of Vermont, distinctive ahem writing style. Lots of "turning upside down" and --I'll just leave it there.

Also, anyone recall the news story that warranted 17 flaming skulls? Yes, 17! Good times, good times.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 28, 2009 02:19 AM (Gq6CE)

639 Jim Webb of Vermont? ACK, Virginia.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 28, 2009 02:21 AM (Gq6CE)

640 I used to be a fan of LGF and would check in frequently.
Now it's become a crusade against anyone who dare say Darwin isn't the Barack Obama of science.
If he was so gung-ho about it, he should've started up another blog and rant to his delight while leaving LGF to it's original source/material.

cnredd
Political Wrinkles
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com

Posted by: cnredd at May 28, 2009 02:26 AM (XdXvF)

641 Would you people PLEASE stop giving Chuckles the Bike Riding Clown credit for the TANG shit? He got it from one of his readers whom he never gave credit to!!!
He's a lying THIEF. No more, no less.
Oh, and Chuckles, if you're reading this, as a former lizard with over 11K posts there, LGF has sucked ever since you started posting your inane bullshit.
It was a great blog when it was those of us who posted regularly took each thread in the directions they went.
Are you too stupid to see that, asswipe?

Posted by: Bob in Breckenridge at May 28, 2009 02:27 AM (7Qi0o)

642 seriously, did it take you this long Ace? That place is a cult of personality. I think it is down to people that just want Charles to like them, there is no recognizable political philosophy; just whatever Charles says goes. I was a member there for many years, banned when I asked Chuck why he attacked believers. BTW, I posted I think twice in my last year so the banning was redundant.

Posted by: trey at May 28, 2009 02:46 AM (qOdDu)

643 634
I really think those guys must not remember what inflation was like
during the Carter years. It's going to get a whole lot worse.

Most of those kiddies either weren't born yet or were smearing their poo on the walls back then. I was in my early 20s in the Carter years and inflation left us in the words of Dan Ackroyd "screwed, blued, and tatooed"

They'll find out about the ravages of inflation after paying the necessities and finding out they don't have enough left over to buy that new iPod even though they got a raise at work. Or in many cases mommy starts bitching about the light bill and there isn't any Ben Jerry's in the fridge

Posted by: kbdabear at May 28, 2009 02:48 AM (93F13)

644 642, he has a God complex lol. See it's funny because he don't believe in God.

Posted by: trey at May 28, 2009 02:51 AM (qOdDu)

645 For the Little Gonad Fondlers

Living Colour - Cult of Personality

Posted by: kbdabear at May 28, 2009 02:52 AM (93F13)

646 There is no big tent in Darwinist Rage Boy's, has-been jazz guitarrist's blog.

Posted by: Mats at May 28, 2009 02:56 AM (i3nFs)

647 There's a reason that some 39% of people in the U.S. identify as Independents these days.

Bottom line is that the two party system has become a game of "Let's you and him fight," and the American citizenry are the chumps who are finally starting get tired of being chumps.

What they want now is freedom.

Which was part of my plan all along.

LGF and others are still playing the chumps in the game of "Let's you and him fight," as are you.

Posted by: Cigarette Man at May 28, 2009 03:03 AM (FoHqy)

648 Like many here, LGF was one of the first blogs I visited due to Rathergate (the other blog that got me hooked was Powerline, which still holds my attention). I'm not at all surprised by Charles's turn, as I knew what he was when I started reading. He wasn't shy about his liberal beliefs, they just didn't come up when the subjects were media malpractice and islamofascism. I kept with him on the Ron Paul issue, finding that his arguments and conclusions have merit, and that I would never touched Mr. Paul with a twelve foot poll (despite the fact that yes, I agree with many of his economic positions). I even have to admit that, initially, I had no problem with his offensive against intelligent design. In fact, I welcomed it, as I believe that logical debate within a political party is healthy, and that taking allies to task when they're running off doing something stupid makes the group stronger in the long term.

It started out nicely nuanced, as Charles took pains to point out that there was no contradiction between belief in evolution and belief in God. However, the signs of the eventual devolution of his argument were quickly apparent as, despite those caveats, he would give the evangelical athiests like Hitchens complete passes. It was simply a matter of time before he dropped the nuance completely and became hostile to religion.

Still, that was not enough for me to stop visiting entirely. That came much more recently, with the Tea Parties. Charles has never learned the maxim that no cause is so pure that it does not attract fugheads. To a fair minded person, the fact that some of the creepier Ron Paul supporters tried to insert themselves into the Tea Party movement should not taint the movement as a whole. Unfortunately, Charles is no longer fairminded, if he ever was. Indeed, he may have displayed this deficiency sooner, with the Vlams
Whatchamawhosits, but I quite frankely was never interested in those
stories, so never followed them.

Now, will I be banned from LGF for posting this? Probably not, as I posted under a different screenname there. Will it matter if I am? No, as I quite frankly have no interest in engaging in any discussion on LGF.

It's a shame that one of the first blogs I've ever read has fallen so far, but again, I knew that day would come.

Posted by: JSchuler at May 28, 2009 03:08 AM (aoUR7)

649 Done with LGF. Commentedsince 2001. Banned under a newer name for being a suspected creationist. I'm not, but amproud to be banned. What a dreary place it's become.

Posted by: theCork at May 28, 2009 03:39 AM (L0cxG)

650 Heh... I got banned and didn't even notice it until someone at the chat-room from STACLU brought it to my attention.

Kind of a badge of honor, really. I once mentioned that I relied on God to help me through all the blood and guts from being a medic, during Desert Storm and one of Chucky's lizard followers called me "Goofy".

What a joke that site has become.

Posted by: Miles at May 28, 2009 03:50 AM (2Gbqj)

651 "He will turn on Israel, too. Just wait."

I don't see that happening for a while, I can definitely see Mark Steyn getting trashed in the near future though. After all, he guest-hosts for Limbaugh and that will probably be enough to draw Charles' ire.

For me there's a few problems

1) Too much creationism.
2) He appears to have jumped on the "Global Warming" bandwagon.
3) Palin-bashing.
4) Support for RINO-ism - even though possibly the most RINO of all candidates crashed and burned in the last election.

Oh and for some reason LGF has been abysmally slow for the past month or so.

Posted by: Plants love CO2 at May 28, 2009 04:13 AM (3AkoX)

652 I still think Charles is a talented guy. He has a great eye for forgery. You gotta give him that. As a sometimes web designer, I wish I had half his know-how.

That said...Given that a bunch of Islamic radicals were trying to kill us (and still are), his take-no-prisoners approach to Islam seemed appropriate. Now he seems to have just shifted his anger from Islam to Christianity. Of course, Christians haven't really blown up a lot of skyscrapers recently, so all he's got is ID which, after Dover, makes a pretty weak boogeyman IMO.

The creationist label rankles me too. Nearly everyone who isn't an atheist is a creationist, which is to say nearly everyone. Even those Christians (like me) who accept evolution as a fact are, strictly speaking, creationists. But Charles doesn't seem interested in that sort of nuance. Honestly I don't go over there enough to say for sure, but when I have, it was always an 11 on the outrage-meter.

In an ugly irony, Charles has embraced jihad.

Posted by: John at May 28, 2009 04:23 AM (NcsIb)

653 In essence, CJ has returned to his liberal-fascist roots. His ideology MUST be correct, because he "knows" himself to be a good person. Conversly, those that disagree MUST be wicked, or at least misguided. It's the same thing for nearly 100 years now. This is the endgame for all Utopian idealists. Sucks, but there it is.

Posted by: Lazarus at May 28, 2009 04:50 AM (IY3YY)

654 the guy has a God complex and is thinning the herd. What exactly does he support? He loves Israel but not their faith which is the raison det're of the state. From what I can tell, he is a weird California photographer who has it in for Jihad. I am think he hates Jihad more than Christians, but I think he loves to bash Christians and believing Jews more. In the end, he has made his own site weaker, we are lamenting something that is dying, he is lucky to get this much of a response; though it is mostly an obituary.

Posted by: trey at May 28, 2009 04:50 AM (qOdDu)

655 oy.

Posted by: BabbaZee at May 28, 2009 05:53 AM (BHyV6)

656 Way too late to this party, I know. That's why it sucks to live in the Middle East. I'm always 7-8 hours late to every thread. But I got bounced from LGF after disagreeing with Princess Charles about Darwin, and citing refereed academic sources, including some of my own work, in defense. I posted under the name MikeinIstanbul. So add me to the list.

Posted by: MikeInAmman at May 28, 2009 06:02 AM (s/INZ)

657 LGF was a must-read for quite some time, but I haven't been over there in well over a year or so. As others have posted, Chas did a great job with Rathergate, but his obsession with religion - and make no mistake that he was going after jihadists in an appropriate manner - is quite troubling. I believe he equates any follower of a higher being, whether a Muslim or Christian, as someone who must be taken down.

Posted by: Ken at May 28, 2009 06:14 AM (FzPK2)

658 When he started badmouthing Pam Geller, I disagreed with his points and was promptly banned. Johnson is a bozo with no intellectual integrity as he displays when he refuses to allow dissenting arguments to be published on his blog. He wears his ignorance as a badge of honor.

Posted by: xsssx at May 28, 2009 06:21 AM (+Vt8x)

659 " one major weakneess: too many comments. "

That was comment #543. Oh dear.

Derak @ 595 " Just ask about the 1400 ct. thread. And the C**t ban. "

And the WHAT?
You're shitting me! (I hope.)

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at May 28, 2009 06:24 AM (U1lAA)

660
@289
Posted by: Cigarette Man at May 27, 2009 08:39 PM (FoHqy)

Dont mistake raucous discourse as irrational. I drop the f bomb, attack with opposing philosophy, and wont hesitate to ad hom when necessary. The arbitrary standard on AoS has been pretty much up to the individual poster. Ive rarely seen anyone banned from here. You want examples of irrational, and conform to the standard or go to hell? The krazy Kos Kids, HuffPo and DU qualify. LGF has now joined their ranks. If many of the comments on here offend your sensibilities, go elsewhere. No one will stop you, and by the way, you probably wont get banned.

Posted by: SFC MAC at May 28, 2009 07:01 AM (dX8Ae)

661 @74 JDW:
CJ left this on my blog after I posted about his descent into batshit craziness:
http://tinyurl.com/d4rpux
Look guys, heres the scoop. I began wearing my wife underwear last year in order to make myself feel more sexy. They are very tight and now I have my little green footballs in a bind and it is making me a very touchy little bitch.
I underwent a complete castration last fall and it has made me a little more hormonal than usual.
Please bear with me while I adjust to my empty nutsack and roomier panties.
Charles
My ovariesare bigger thanCJ's pea-sized nuts.

Posted by: SFC MAC at May 28, 2009 07:10 AM (dX8Ae)

662 LGF had been one of my daily must-read blogs for a couple of years. I finally had to delete it from my favorites list about a month ago. He just got Way too negative for me....

Posted by: Cris at May 28, 2009 07:16 AM (KA0eR)

663 #648 Posted by: Cigarette Man at May 28, 2009 03:03 AM (FoHqy)
There's a reason that some 39% of people in the U.S. identify as Independents these days.

Which means they simply cross party lines whenever they're dissatified with one or the other. Bottom line is that the two party system has become a game of "Let's you and him fight," and the American citizenry are the chumps who are finally starting get tired of being chumps. What they want now is freedom. Which was part of my plan all along.
Your plan?
LGF and others are still playing the chumps in the game of "Let's you and him fight," as are you.

You're only a 'chump' if you give someone permission to use you for the purpose.

I don't give permission.

Posted by: SFC MAC at May 28, 2009 07:19 AM (dX8Ae)

664 Little green whinyballs has gone off the deep end on a paranoid schizo meth induced freak-out-melt-down There's a racist, christian, right winger behind every bush...i stopped going there and took him off my bookmark list when he started calling atlas shrugged a nazi racist. Lets face it, charles always considered himself an elitist, despite evidence otherwise. When he tried to take credit for a comment someone else made on his website about the Bush Awol documents, thats when i knew he was just a lil bitch.

Used to be 1500 to 2000 comments on each post over there...i just checked after reading your post...its averaging 200-300...lol.

Looks like this frauds moment in the sun is finally over.






Posted by: metronil at May 28, 2009 07:31 AM (WUSks)

665 Charles Johnson and his Reptilian ban brigade is an excellent reminder that so long as 'rights are endowed by the Creator' then no Lizard Hitler can become an American dictator.

As history shows, Adolf Hitler also killed off any Christian who dissented against Dear Leader, after all how can the people worship Hitler if they are worshiping God.

Whether I am a Christian or not and whether I go to church or not, I will stand with Christians because for as long as they worship God the Creator there can be no worship of The One Creation in the form of a Hitler.

The Nazi Party was a Statist philosophy and like all Statists do they must eliminate Christianity in order to impose their tyrannical dictatorship.

It is ironic that Charles Johnson is the very Nazi that he accuses others of being.


Posted by: syn at May 28, 2009 07:41 AM (7mgBe)

666 656
oy.

Posted by: BabbaZee at May 28, 2009 05:53 AM (BHyV6)
Be careful BabbaZee - Charles's thought police will report you and eventhough you have not posted on LGF in a long , long time , you will get the ban stick.

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 07:43 AM (JZz6U)

667 Ace your thread has more comments than theone posted by little Charles il Jong over at LGF posted about it!

PWNED! (put that in there cause i know lil il jong charles is an obsessive compulsive meglomaniac and will read every post in this thread)

Its funny watching Charles fail miserably at trying to be witty and intelligent...its was sort of uncomfortable before his melt down... but now its just outright hilarious. in light of everyone leaving his website, who will he have to convince of his greatness in substandard html coding and photography? lol!

I mean lets face it, some of his work was outright elementary and ridiculous...to see him attempting to gloat about it was just uncomfortable and sad...all at the same time.



Posted by: metronil at May 28, 2009 07:51 AM (WUSks)

668 oh chuck - what a fine mess you have created for yourself. you have evolved into nothing-ness.

Posted by: i should be doing something else at May 28, 2009 07:55 AM (i1+rx)

669 I was banned from there a long time ago. The guy's bicycle is missing some gears.

Posted by: Dang at May 28, 2009 07:56 AM (0kuJD)

670 Shane! Come back Shane!

Posted by: Corona at May 28, 2009 08:02 AM (InjUv)

671 Charles is a tool and his minions are 'lil green boot lickers.

Posted by: LGF is boring at May 28, 2009 08:11 AM (SxEPG)

672 Good to see I'm not the only one worried about Charles. His paranoia has him constantly circling the wagons and lashing out at everything outside that circle. Sadly, that circle of his keeps getting smaller, and most of the people on the outside mean him no harm.

Posted by: Merv at May 28, 2009 08:14 AM (fdUIc)

673 A little more cheesecake and some humor might serve him well. I'm just saying...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 28, 2009 08:17 AM (m1kcI)

674 Charles, "Burrrrrrrrrrppppppp"

Sharmuta "Brilliant!"



Posted by: mike at May 28, 2009 08:36 AM (9dSAJ)

675 Used to go there all the time when Rathergate broke, now i dont for much of the same reasons expressed in this LONGEST comment thread i have seen in forever.

What really did it in for me was his postings on how great his website coding/ajax is. His code sucks, he talks like somebody impersonating a developer. Then his minions would congratulate him on how awesome it is.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at May 28, 2009 08:38 AM (1hSHv)

676 It was all the creationist blather. I stopped going three months ago.

Posted by: ding at May 28, 2009 08:47 AM (Xomyd)

677 ...great post, so true in all ways. I always used to visit LGF. It was THE site back in the day, but it seems that every other posting now is an in your faceslam of the anti-evolution position. That topic is so far removed from why I first began obsessively reading his site that I don't even bother visiting any more. Thanks for calling attention to it, I always felt a bit guilty not clicking over to him anymore thinking maybe I was just being surly nincompoopish. : (

Posted by: DJ at May 28, 2009 08:48 AM (EGH9B)

678 "Sadly I can only conclude there's no room for me anymore under LGF's big tent."
I came to the same conclusion many months ago. I understand that there are many people who do not believe in the creation theory of origins...fine. In the end, we will all find out who was right. I happen to believe that the universe is entirely too complex to have created itself by accident. Where is the "first cause"? Anyway, I found LGF's mocking derisive tone towards my beliefs to be very offensive and intolerant, so I stopped reading him. He is free to hold whatever belief or disbelief that makes him feel good, I will do the same. I don't have to subject myself to the ridicule of another in order to read good political commentary, so I won't. I haven't missed him in the slightest.

Posted by: Margie at May 28, 2009 09:03 AM (5vT9D)

679 Yeah, I've pretty much given up on LGF. Nothing there worthwhile anymore unless you're into the creationism debate. I mean, what the heck? What a weird topic to get so totally wrapped up in. I don't read it anymore.

Posted by: Dufus at May 28, 2009 09:09 AM (BcYZo)

680 I never read any blogs until after I completely retired both active and reserve-wise from the military in 2005. Don't ask why, I just tried to remain as apolitical as possible while in uniform. LGF was the first one I started visiting and commenting on regularly, and of course it's where I found out about AoS. From about 2007 onwards, I started reading more AoS and less LGF, but almost completely stopped reading LGF about six months ago with only occasional visits when the more deranged topics, such as The Bow and the DHS RWE memo came up. I still have a valid login there, but I came close to being banned I think on the DHS RWE thread.

Kinda sad to see people over there who used to have intelligent things to say now verbally fellating Charles in every thread.

Posted by: Eric at May 28, 2009 09:13 AM (quZLX)

681 Still around? Hmmm, I thought LGF had died.

Posted by: Miller at May 28, 2009 09:17 AM (mf6/b)

682 Charles at LFG started out in the left, and he's going home. Simple as that.

Posted by: spmat at May 28, 2009 09:19 AM (O0yr7)

683 667 656 oy.

Posted by: BabbaZee at May 28, 2009 05:53 AM (BHyV6)

Be careful BabbaZee - Charles's thought police will report you and eventhough you have not posted on LGF in a long , long time , you will get the ban stick.

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 07:43 AM (JZz6U)



I stopped posted there last May and was banned in absentia last July

Posted by: BabbaZee at May 28, 2009 09:43 AM (BHyV6)

684 yep. LGF was once my fav blog. i used to go there every day, several times a day. once the creationist stuff started i began getting very bored. charles is hardly an erudite, educated guy on the subject so the stories and comments became redundant and trite. it's not like charles is sam harris, or hitchens, so he simply has very little to add to the subject. there are provocative arguments on both sides from richard paley to dawkins, but in the case of charles it is obvious that he is not familiar with any of them. it's truly sad that LGF has become irrelevent; it was once a great blog. charles apparently doesn't understand how the market place works, and fails to connect the down turn of LGF with his own poor choices. people are simply not interested in what he is currently doing. i know i am not. going to LGF is like reading the same book everyday - over and over and over. you feel like sisyphus...carrying a rock up a hill and watching it roll back down, rewind, replay, repeat.

you get the point.


Posted by: annak at May 28, 2009 09:44 AM (M4IOE)

685 to
Scipio at May 28, 2009 07:43 AM (JZz6U)

I stopped posted there last May and was banned in absentia last July

pos TING

suffering suffixation



Posted by: BabbaZee at May 28, 2009 09:47 AM (BHyV6)

686
Posted by: kbdabear 563
- It
was a Freeper who first discovered the memo similarities. Chuckles just
put up a GIF comparing the two and hogged all the glory.

Ah, that explains a LOT, actually. In particular, I was always mystified by his complete blindness to BHO's badly faked (or at least very sloppily composited) "Certification of Live Birth" document**, his ignorance of Hawaii law, and his ad hom vitriol aimed at anyone who saw what he refused to see. All very telling in retrospect. At least DrewM and Ace entertained arguments on the subject.
I still believe LGF is equivalent to the trojan stopthenra.com site from some years back. Only in reverse.
**see the latest from Gibbsy, who continues to lie about this issue

Posted by: goy at May 28, 2009 09:56 AM (+Gze8)

687 Hey, Babba, long time no zee!

Posted by: RickZ at May 28, 2009 10:08 AM (Bpyo9)

688 I have to admit to haveing a bit of schadenfreude about the lament of the banned, many of whom were often begging Charles to ban me for presenting contrary views, in a sometimes obnoxious manner, and many of whom rejoiced when Charles sent me packing.
Nonetheless I enjoyed the arguments at LGF. Before my banning in October 2007 the banned tended to be either 1) disgruntled dead-enders such as Reaganite, Rayra and the gulf Coast Punditeers, or 2) truly obnoxious left-wingers like View from Ireland, or 3) one-of-a-kinds like Bigel. After my departure thetrains to Siberia really started running.
The funniest thing? I agree with every mid-course correction Charles has made in the past two years. But he's still a worthless egomaniacal insecure pathetic excuse for a popular blogger.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Gordon at May 28, 2009 10:19 AM (qpu2G)

689 And the WHAT? You're shitting me! (I hope.)To not upset potential mainstream advertisers, Ace asked us not to use the c-word when referring to Dem et alia women, SD Dave. Although 'scrunt' is an acceptable substitute. And calling any woman poster here the c-word, as it's only done by troll types anyway, has always been a banhammer offence.
#657 MikeInAmman, shouldn't you be Michael Jordan then? ;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 10:26 AM (MB+jN)

690 LGF was once a must. Until I saw this post I hadn't realized how long it had been since I had visited. It was like picking up the NY Times. I knew in advance what each of today's post would say.
CJ was once valuable forcompiling links to stories about Islamic terrorism, but I never found him a particularly astute political analyst. Glenn Reynolds's site mostly compiles information and Glenn's brief comments havegenuine wit and insight. CJ's utter contempt for anyone not in 100% agreement with him makes his advice to Republicans really quite funny. His complaints about the Tea Parties also showed him to be a rank amateur at political organizing. Of coursePaul supporters got involved, but there is an art to keeping a fringe on your side while not letting them become the public face of the movement that is obviously well beyond his grasp. The political party of CJ's choice could meet in a pup tent.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at May 28, 2009 10:27 AM (GkYyh)

691 686 BabbaZee

Banned in absentia huh! Wow he really is so regal. Did you ever get any reason for the banning? You would recogize my LGF nic if I told you. we had some fun back and forths.

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 10:44 AM (JZz6U)

692 691 NC Mountain Girl
He also loves to pick fights with conservatives and people who never did him any harm. The thing is that his blog is so damned boring now! Imagine getting so worked up and obsessed over creationism and intelligent design?

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 10:47 AM (JZz6U)

693 689 The Poster Formerly Known as Gordon
What was the reason for your banning? I debated you often at LGF and though rarely agreeing with you I respected your 'courage' in coming onto a conservative (then ) website and standing up for what you believed in. What is the story with reaganite? I never cared for that guy. View from Ireland I actually got along with although hardly ever agreeing with her.

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 10:50 AM (JZz6U)

694 Gordon!
How'd you get wind of this post? I mean, you hardly seem the AoSHQ type.
But anyway, great to see you.
After my departure thetrains to Siberia really started running.
Now THAT is a nice turn of phrase.
Drop by Discarded Lies sometime, won't you? (okay, cba will hate me for that, but whatchagonna do?)

Posted by: Lewis at May 28, 2009 10:54 AM (Y3uPw)

695 I cannot remember the last time I read LGF. It was probably earlier than when I stopped watching Bill O'Reilly. Pontificating blowhards can be amusing, but they don't remain amusing.

Posted by: MarkD at May 28, 2009 11:02 AM (MMy4A)

696 Lewis, thanks for the invite - the angry one will brpbably be Frank IBC/Franco CBI, who made snarky comments on some of my previous visits to Discarded Lies.
Scipio, the details can be found on my two stalker blogs, nodrogsgreatesthits.blogspot.com and lgfbannedandblocked.blogspot.com. Both of which have finished their fabulous runs and remain as archival internet treasures for all to enjoy.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Gordon at May 28, 2009 11:10 AM (qpu2G)

697 I started reading the site back about a year ago. I remember finally getting access to commenting on the articles. By then that dufuss started to get all screechy-preachy. I think I commented once then stopped completely.

Posted by: Disco Prime at May 28, 2009 11:20 AM (rYaSa)

698 johnson is a narcissit with a blog. nothing more.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2009 11:21 AM (zS8Lk)

699 Whether I am a Christian or not and whether I go to church or not, I
will stand with Christians because for as long as they worship God the
Creator there can be no worship of The One Creation in the form of a
Hitler.

Bravo. That is truth. It not only explains Hitler, but the Obamessiah as well. Not comparing the two men, mind you, but rather the rise of human messiahs among the godless. The Brownshirts and Obamaniacs drink the same koolaid.

Posted by: Daver at May 28, 2009 11:41 AM (khPxz)

700 I'm taking names.

Posted by: KilgoreTrout at May 28, 2009 11:48 AM (muUqs)

701 Charlie johnson is a good husband/wife to perez hilton, leeeee ave hiiiiiim aloooooone! *sob*

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 28, 2009 11:53 AM (XooSV)

702 As if another comment to this thread is needed, but I can't help it.

I used to post there as Rudi. Sometime after the 08' election, CJ posted a rant about how the GOP needed to move away from social conservatism. It just so happens he posted this missive right after CA adopted Prop. 8.

I simply commented that if a majority of Californians opposed gay marriage, then we shouldn't be quick to advise the GOP to drop social conservative positions. CJ was not happy with my comment--and yet never, ever offered any type of substantive rebuttal. This is when I noticed, for the first time, CJ injecting himself in the comments thread more frequently to chastise his own commenters. I also picked up the cult of personality vibe among his commenters as well. There were a few brave souls who tepidly supported my position.

Then, in response to some comment CJ made about creationism, I observed that he seemed "obsessed" with the subject. The Ban-Hammer fell. One poor guy stood up for me suggesting the banning was a little harsh. The Ban-Hammer fell on him/her.

Charles Johnson is a pathetic little insecure illogical internet tyrant. He's just dumb too.

Posted by: Dave at May 28, 2009 12:07 PM (Xm1aB)

703 Charles blocked me from even viewing LGF, apparently. Fine by me.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at May 28, 2009 12:38 PM (VeFGY)

704 Yes, well, I finally wrote CJ a note informing him that I was logging out for good before he or a finger pointing minion banned me. Charles has become Amanda Marcotte. Or at least, it seems to me that he has become like Howard Beale in the last act of Network. Once a force to be reckoned with, someone apparently has informed him thathe has "meddled in the primal forces of nature" and he's since cooled his jets. I see him eventuallyalone, totally pure, perhaps surrrounded by six or seven sycophantic followers, all screeching with theirfingers pointing outward. You see, we'll all be wrong but him and his devoted cult. Personally, I got awfully tired of the "don't piss off Charles" brigade.

Posted by: ducktrapper at May 28, 2009 12:42 PM (6kZI3)

705 I used to read the LGF every day, I only posted one time. I did however use the cute little rating system the (+ or -) icons for some posts. After several minus (-) clicks on some of his pet posts on off the wall items, I found myself banned for being "disruptive". Probably the best thing that ever happened to me. I think he (Charlie) has gone around the bend and seems to have drastically reduced number of people posting. Guess only the ass kissers are left, they all will probably tell him just what he needs to hear.

Posted by: Johnd at May 28, 2009 12:45 PM (Hm3go)

706 gawd drew....it took you this long to figure out that charles is several bricks short of a load?
nam grunt...you are one funny guy!
"Charlie johnson is a good husband/wife to perez hilton, leeeee ave hiiiiiim aloooooone! *sob*"
truer words were never spoken..........

Posted by: christmasghost at May 28, 2009 12:54 PM (aUut1)

707 Am a new reader of your blog - after your nomination for a blog award. Your post regarding LGF is very interesting b/c Johnsonhad a veryengagingandinformative site. But I noticed the same thing months ago and it has been very puzzling; of course, my LGF visits were casual and mostly for info on mideast policy links for about 2 yrs. When it got crass and abrasive against all creationists/intel. design opinions, or disagreements, it lost my readership. Then, again, it may be another sign of evolution: only the fit survive and LGF may be headed for cyber extinction.

Posted by: Gigi at May 28, 2009 12:55 PM (NZ71N)

708 I'm amazed this thread went over 700, charlie the tuna and his wife perez are both cowards they deserve to be married!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 28, 2009 01:23 PM (XooSV)

709 "701
I'm taking names."
-KilgoreTrout

Here, take mine too.

Posted by: KilgoreTrout_Is_A_Bootlicking_Knob at May 28, 2009 01:31 PM (SxEPG)

710 >>704 Charles blocked me from even viewing LGF, apparently. Fine by me.

Damn, Treacher, you are one funny dude. ROTFLMAO!

Oh... wait...
... are you serious?

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2009 01:33 PM (sey23)

711 I told you guys, but would you listen? Nooooo...

Posted by: Dan Rather at May 28, 2009 01:36 PM (sey23)

712 Post and get it out of your system for the bulb that turned on in your heads that you were in the wrong place and under that assholes thumb for so long, I wish I had never been a part of that dreadful place looking back now, he is an idiot liberal hack and is about to lose LGF to space, be glad you have escaped no matter the reason, that cocksucker is the most phony fuckstick and con man I've seen on the web. IMHO!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 28, 2009 01:45 PM (XooSV)

713 Dan Rather eh? Hmmmm. Compare!
I told you guys, but would you listen? Nooooo...

I told you guys, but would you listen? Nooooo...

Posted by: ducktrapper at May 28, 2009 01:48 PM (6kZI3)

714 Hell just email all of his advertisers and tell them you will boycott their products if they don't remove them from his site.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 28, 2009 01:53 PM (XooSV)

715 .
@ #701
The "real" Killgore uses 2 "el"s....I know, 'cause, when he used to be pretty kindly, he told me so, directed me to the book from which he got the name..... : )

Posted by: Ma Sands at May 28, 2009 01:54 PM (1rd6F)

716 All those banned and/or blocked... add your nic to The Book of the Banned!
If you doubt that he is outing the real names of people and sometimes their pictures and their locations, see here. See commnets 11, 200, 217, 221, 235, 261, 284, 300, 456, 505
and one has to wonder what that Irish Rose freak means with her "super-secret blog hit list" at comment 514

and, he can block your IP Address thus blocking your ability to read his site. easy cure if you don't have a permananet IP, just turn your cable modem off overnight once when you're not using it.

Posted by: Kirly at May 28, 2009 02:15 PM (Uojav)

717 Even I'm sick of the guy.

Posted by: Charles Darwin at May 28, 2009 02:15 PM (sey23)

718 After Charles complained that Rush didn't appreciate the scientific hopeyness of the Lemur discovery, I wrote him and asked why he'd changed so much -- Did he have a new liberal girlfriend that was withholding the poon unless he converted -- and he blocked my home IP from visiting his website.

I am sooo heartbroken.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 28, 2009 02:28 PM (xilNI)

719 LGF was a multiple times per day stop for me as recently as a year and half ago. Then the creationist/fascist posts started filling up the site. I visit only once or twice a week lately, mainly to see if Charles has changed anything. I wondered whether I was alone in feeling disappointed by the downward spiral. Guess not.

Posted by: Texas Pete at May 28, 2009 02:31 PM (giU14)

720 719
I too have speculated that he is getting some horizontal action from a 35 + young thing with a leftist bent.

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 02:31 PM (JZz6U)

721 I don't believe for a second that Charles has been bought off by George Soros or whatever.
My pet theory about his course change - shared by many others (see above) - is that he did it all for the nookie.
Butyou'd think that a guy getting regular sex wouldn't be so fcuking uptight, though, would you?
Hmmm, may have to rethink that theory ...

Posted by: Lewis at May 28, 2009 02:33 PM (Y3uPw)

722 Ohhhh look at me perez I have a boner of a website do you think we can be together for a lifetime? I believe in abortions too and you know I like this marriage thing.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 28, 2009 02:41 PM (XooSV)

723 Yeah it could be young nookie but it might be the visit by a Ned Beatty-like character deliveringsome version of "Mr. Johnson,you have meddled in the primal forces of nature".
From Wiki - Jensen ultimately persuades Beale to abandon his populist messages. However, audiences find his new views on the dehumanization of society to be depressing, and ratings begin to slide.
Pretty close to what's happened eh?

Posted by: ducktrapper at May 28, 2009 02:42 PM (nUCkt)

724 Of course Sharmuta probably thinks that she and Charles will bicycle off together into the night - but Irish Rose probably has plans to murder Sharmie and have Charles to herself - unles NY Nana or Mandy Manners gets in the way!

Posted by: Scipio at May 28, 2009 02:47 PM (JZz6U)

725 I agree, but the community was friendly to conservatives or at least to issues conservatives cared about.

that depends on what conservative issue you're talking about. I was banned in the fall in the fall of 2005. I hardly talked smack on Charles. I had a disagreement with reaganite. Who's a big jerk in my opinion. For not agreeing with reaganite, I was considered a troll.

Posted by: pajama momma at May 28, 2009 02:56 PM (kWQTL)

726 so check this out...after making comments in this thread, i went back to LGF to check the post count again.

I was blocked from the site...ha!

I use the same screen name here as i do there so yes folks, charles, the meglomaniac, paranoid schizophrenic is INDEED reading every comment on this post.

LOL!

Wow, it must suck to be such a petty, vindictive, weak little man.


Posted by: metronil at May 28, 2009 03:31 PM (WUSks)

727 Yeah, LGF used to be fun. A lot of humorous, opinionated peeps that enjoyed a good dust-up. Now it's:

Morning Open Thread
Lousy People-less Photo ThreadMidday Open ThreadCreationists Suck ThreadMusic Video ThreadOvernight Open Thread

Yawn. That moron Walter, who thinks he somehow has won some mental battle with Robert Spencer, is my nominee for lizard most likely to be found in bed with a single, self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.



Posted by: Eldin at May 28, 2009 04:12 PM (8XI4A)

728 what happened to lgf? lol! the host hated his guests! so all you conservatives left over there.......can you still stomach his beliefs? is it worth compromising your own beleifs so you can remain a member? i mean come on....goddess gets banned and you all are mad at her? the host thinks the gop needs a big tent....too bad he won't let anyone in his!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 28, 2009 04:14 PM (XUmfN)

729 HEY Ma Sands!! Nice to read you here....was thinking about Mama Winger.
I hope you guys are well!!
Peace, Lobosan5

Posted by: Banned Aswell at May 28, 2009 04:15 PM (w3ZFS)

730 O..... Ma...you are absolutely right......CJ let the lizard minion do the foot work then slapped his awareness on it.

Posted by: Banned Aswell at May 28, 2009 04:30 PM (w3ZFS)

731 Another one banned for simply visiting another blog. Said hi to some friends there (nothing whatsoever about LGF or CJ or their philosophies -- just a simple "hi")... BAM! I'm gone!

At first, I was shocked and deeply hurt. The the "duh!" moment kicked in.

So glad to be here (and other places), able to speak my mind within reason -- "reason" being a double-entendre here -- without fear of repercussions.


Posted by: LeePro at May 28, 2009 05:00 PM (q3CeF)

732 Just checked LGF and lo and behold Chuckie has another Texas School Board/creationist post up claiming, quite dishonestly and/or delusionally, that the denial of evolution has cost the GOP elections.

Yeah, I remember the redness of McCain's ill-tempered face while he wasinsisting in debate after debate that his ancestors aren't monkeys.

Geesh, Charles Johnson has really publicly self-immolated. How embarassing.

Posted by: Dave at May 28, 2009 05:53 PM (87clE)

733 .
@730-731
Hullo, Lobosan....was just thinking about you yesterday.....

Posted by: Ma Sands at May 28, 2009 06:25 PM (1rd6F)

734 Chuckles dropped the facade. He's an agree-with-me-or-hit-the-road leftie. About as narcissistic as Obama. It felt good to walk away and never look back.

Posted by: Marybel at May 28, 2009 06:28 PM (/f7fd)

735 I have an account at LGF, and I hung around in the Lizard Lounge. At some point, the whole site, err, jumped the lizard. It's not that I disagree with him about creationism and the Texas school board or whatever- it's just that those particular issues are so far removed from relevance that, well, I don't bother reading about them anymore.

-AOP

ageofpericles.blogspot.com

Posted by: Age Of Pericles at May 28, 2009 07:04 PM (1pyIm)

736 Hmmm.

Charles Johnson has gone libtard. Case closed. Moved on.

Posted by: memomachine at May 28, 2009 08:25 PM (DWUmb)

737 Good point, phoenix girl!

Jumped the lizard, indeed, Pericles.

Posted by: Rose at May 28, 2009 08:39 PM (WAZDn)

738 Wow, Charlie has really burned his bridges with these commentors. I too have left the lizard fold for many ot the reasons already stated.

Posted by: czekmark at May 28, 2009 10:28 PM (rK4/Z)

739 Got boring. Then he began bashing Creationists saying he had not problem with Believers, just a problem with Creationists, then he began bashing Believers.

I've always wondered if the Little Green Footballs were lizard droppings. I guess the are.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 28, 2009 10:49 PM (AfPnb)

740 hey frum, a majority of hispanics are against abortion. many african americans and again, hispanics are also opposed to gay marriage. while i could personally care less about either issue i can at least acknowledge that abortion, gay marriage and myriad social issues that have the "moderate" republican camp foaming at the mouth offer the republican party an opportunity to appeal to a broader base. social issues matter.

and miss manners, the only allegiance one should have is to the defense of reason and one's ideals. charles and free speech, enlightenment thought, and common sense don't seem to be compatible at this point - hence the great exodus from lgf. besides, lgf has become irrelevent. after about the 10 thousandth creationist post what else is there to read? not only that, charles is pretty much a pedestrian on the topic and has nothing to offer to this very interesting debate. for those of us who have studied the arguments it becomes boring pretty quickly.




Posted by: annak at May 28, 2009 11:13 PM (M4IOE)

741 Did he have a new liberal girlfriend that was withholding the poon unless he converted
From the comments here, it looks like poon wouldn't withhold anything from CJ.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2009 11:30 PM (MB+jN)

742 Which very clever moron here said that Charles looked like Janet Reno and Ward Churchill's love child?
Could there be a better description?
And guys....Chuckie is gay.
S

Posted by: christmasghost at May 28, 2009 11:47 PM (aUut1)

743 So disappointed the little faggot Iron Fist didn't bite. Ready to beat your martial arts ass to a pulp any day, CJ little ass licker.

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Posted by: Deathknyte at May 29, 2009 12:18 AM (vQpQR)

750 re: #750

Geez.
Sorry.

That would be dudette, dude.

Can't figure out the f***ing Link button either... and I'm not computer dumb!

Posted by: LeePro at May 29, 2009 01:32 AM (q3CeF)

751 Lotta comments here, but I'll toss this out. I was banned from LGF on 1
January 2008 after less than a week of Lizardship. It was fun, clever
inane banter, with access to the Lizard Lounge and all, until I stepped
on a mine.



I mentioned the USS Liberty.



Within minutes I was accused of being a sock puppet, a troll, a jew
basher, an anti-semite, a neonazi, a white supremist, and other vile
insinuations (including "conspiracy theorist" by CJ himself). I didn't
realize I was being sandbagged until it was too late. Your kind and
polite commenter Mandy Manners@#78 was one of them.



I had a defender, though, who was subsequently accused of being a sock
puppet of myself. Mandy attacked him as well, until she found out that
the man, joecitizen, was crippled and could barely type. She suddenly got all altruistic. Mandy Manners is an asshole.



I think I'd rather hang out here for a while instead, Ace.


Cordially,


Bunk

Posted by: Bunk Strutts at May 29, 2009 02:37 AM (aMugz)

752 Q: What's the hardest thing about running LGF?

A: Telling your dad you're gay.

Posted by: salamantis at May 29, 2009 03:38 AM (VaIZ7)

753 Shalom, y'all!
Yes,aghast at what has happened at LGF.A once enjoyable and well-commented blog has sadly deteriorated. On the up side, there are lots of places to read, and we are still free to choose for ourselves (for now, anyway). . .
So I read some things here and was glad i did! Added this blog, removed that one, life goes on
Let's hope that LGF and its owner can realign with reality, redirect toward relevancy,and soon rejoin the debates with dignity and purpose. There are a LOT of interesting, informed, and intelligent people who have commented there. Hard to see how it became such a redundant, narrow mess.
Am Yisroel Chai!
6PO

Posted by: 6PointsOut at May 29, 2009 07:55 AM (vJlFU)

754 752


If you start writing that Israel deliberately targeted a ship knowing that it was an American ship and not an Egyptian ship, you will catch hell over here as well.

Posted by: Scipio at May 29, 2009 08:03 AM (m2RwJ)

755 Wow, so many ex-LGF readers in one place. And so many similar tales to tell.

For some years LGF was my first stop online- along with frequent checks during the day but since the campaign, Charles seems to have been replaced by some kind of pod-person. It's a completely different website now.

I took LGF off my own links list when he went after Robert Spencer- the only thing that kept me coming back after that was the news links at the top of the page but ever since Charles claimed that the US government was deliberately concealing Bin Laden's death I've avoided even that.

Posted by: Jay.Mac at May 29, 2009 10:46 AM (WS608)

756 #743 christmasghost: And guys....Chuckie is gay.
FWIW, he is on record stating that he's straight.
Doesn't mean you have to believe him (or me, for that matter) of course, but I do.

Posted by: Lewis at May 29, 2009 10:51 AM (Y3uPw)

757 #755 "If you start writing that Israel deliberately targeted a ship knowing
that it was an American ship and not an Egyptian ship, you will catch
hell over here as well."

I avoid repeating mistakes. At LGF, my comment was off the cuff, and was not intended to start a spinoff discussion, let alone a flame war. Others blew it out of proportion even as I tried to restore the peace and move on. I left the thread, only to get the hammer minutes later.


Posted by: Bunk Strutts at May 29, 2009 01:05 PM (LWDMq)

758
#755 "If you start writing that Israel deliberately targeted a ship knowing that it was an American ship and not an Egyptian ship, you will catch hell over here as well."
That sounds like a threat...shweet!
Here: Israel deliberately targeted a ship knowing that it was an American ship and not an Egyptian ship.
I like the rumor that the US was feeding intel to the Arabs and that Israel had no choice but to whack them. Oh, and wasnt it nice of America to be neutral while Israel was on the verge of utter destruction?
But hey, a nation that will say it landed on the moon in 1969 will lie about anything...
...and to get back on topic, cj is a socialistfag who will eventually agree withPresident Jughead when he tosses Israel to the jackals.

Posted by: salamantis at May 29, 2009 05:38 PM (VaIZ7)

759 Too late for most, but according to Zone Alarm the site that has the funniest anti LGF video is distributing spyware.

Posted by: Bair at May 30, 2009 10:04 AM (od8vo)

760 760
the vids are on youtube.
the site distributing spy ware is the one run by that weapons grade crazy freak himself.

Posted by: Kirly at May 30, 2009 01:15 PM (Uojav)

761 HA HA ! I just saw "What the hell happened to me" at LGF. ROFLMAO.
CJ actually thinkspeople care what he thinks after his atrocious behavior with his wild ban stick and refusal to allow discussion.
Basically he says that it is mean to say you want anyone's policies to fail. He is telling the wrong party. Tell the democrats about that one. Cause they didn't know anything about for the last 8 years, hell think about how they denigrated Reagan, so dems have been using these tactics for decades without a break and it hasn't hurt them at all. In fact, last time I checked, their partisan attacks had placed them in control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.
HELL YES I WANT OBAMA TO FAIL BECAUSE HE WANTS TO REMAKE AMERICA INTO A THIRD WORLD SOCIALIST STATE LIKE ALL DEMOCRATS DO. Damn Right I want that to fail.

Posted by: Steve at May 30, 2009 06:08 PM (lv+sJ)

762 Count me as another FORMER LGF lizard. At one point a couple of years ago, the site was pertinent and interesting. It was a daily stop for me.

Johnson is just as much a bigot as the bigots he decries so much. His bigotries are against Creationists in general and Christians in particular. Long ago his blog became irrelevant due to his many hypocrisies.

Its been so long since I visited the website that I was unaware that he is a Obama fan. Its time for conservatives to throw LGF and Johnson under the bus. I did that long ago.

Posted by: Chris at May 31, 2009 08:57 PM (UKyz3)

763 Yes I too was a long time fan of LGF. It was the first stop every morning and remained open in another tab while I was online. I found it right after the 9-11 attacks and read and posted on it for years . Last year it just seemed that I was disagreeing more and more with a lot of what he did. So I just stopped dropping in. I did learn a lot from the lizards over the years though and I am very happy to see some of them here(Hello Goddess).

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