Ben Carson Endorses Donald Trump

"There are two different Donald Trumps," Carson said at the billionaire's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida. "The one you see on the stage and the one who is very cerebral."
"That's the Donald Trump you're going to start seeing right now."
Trump agreed with that assessment.
"I probably do agree. There's the public version … it seems to have worked over my lifetime," he said. "I think it's different than the personal one."

Hey remember that time Trump likened Carson to a child molester? Just politics according to Carson. Good times, good times.

I don't think Trump is a dumb guy. But I don't think he knows a damn thing about public policy. Listen to him talk, it's a stream of slogans and fluffy promises to do things, great things! Awesome things!

As Ted Cruz pointed out last night, there's no there there. What's the more likely outcome of Trump's threat to raise tariffs? That companies suddenly start making things in the US or that you pay the inflated price after the tariff is added on? Spoiler: No matter what, you're paying more. Either it's the tariff driving up costs or the added cost of labor to make things in the US because of wage disparities. Whatever you pick it means more Americans will be poorer and have a lower standard of living. Congratulations...you've made America greaterer!

I get the anger driving Trump and I get the idea that politicians that know public policy have screwed things up. What I don't get is the idea that Trump is the answer. If it were Trump v. Marco Rubio? Yeah, I'd get Trump. But there's a guy in the race who actually is as hated by the GOP as Trump is (maybe even more so) and has the added advantage of actually understanding the problems and the conservative solutions. If you're pissed at the GOP and DC (and why wouldn't you be) but you think Trump is a better weapon to wield than Cruz...I think you're letting your rage get the better of you.

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1 First?

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:14 AM (NQmg1)

2 Fourth

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 11, 2016 10:14 AM (iONHu)

3 Cerebral?

Well, I guess the good doctor is on firm ground there, knowing his resume.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:15 AM (NQmg1)

4 I think you're letting your rage get the better of you.

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Yup.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 11, 2016 10:15 AM (rJSDb)

5 A finally...the first of the thrice daily anti Trump threads.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 11, 2016 10:15 AM (0IhFx)

6 Totally disappointed in Carson. What a boob.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 11, 2016 10:15 AM (9U1OG)

7 No first, but willing to recognize that tariffs are the bogeyman that some people seem to think they are. Cheap goods aren't the be all and end all.

Posted by: WOPR at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

8 Ted is the anointed one, come one, come all and lay hands on our next dear leader who will lead America out of the darkness.

Posted by: Benny Hinn at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (EIiez)

9 It was no-nothing "RINO-hunters!!!" like you that made this shit happen. Give yourself a pat on the back

Posted by: buzz at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (OQix2)

10 5 A finally...the first of the thrice daily anti Trump threads.
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If it bums you out, there's always Breitfront.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (sQQU0)

11 There are two Donald Trumps?

Guess that VP slot is now filled.

Trump/Trump 2016!

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (NQmg1)

12 Trump to beat them down.

Cruz for the finish.

Carson...I no longer know what to make of him, other than to call his the consummate vanity campaign.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (9krrF)

13 I get the anger driving Trump and I get the idea that politicians that know public policy have screwed things up.

Nope, I really don't think you do.

Posted by: LLatPoH at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (CQud6)

14 If Rubio loses Florida will he finally drop out then? If so maybe, just maybe, we can get this all sorted out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (iONHu)

15 Looking more & more likely I'll need to review write-in ballot procedure for Virginia.

I cannot vote Trump and live with myself.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at March 11, 2016 10:18 AM (SCcgT)

16 I would have preferred Cruz, but we are stuck with Trump. Might as well start trying to come to terms with that.

Trump vs Hillary = everyone loses!

Embrace the suck, and keep your liquor cabinet well stocked.

Posted by: Max Power at March 11, 2016 10:18 AM (QCc6B)

17 JoeMama is right at #11.

Trump/Trump 2016

Posted by: Scottst at March 11, 2016 10:19 AM (lfwul)

18 It's all in Trump's gifted smallish hands.

Posted by: Ben Casey Carson at March 11, 2016 10:19 AM (gwG9s)

19 I get the anger driving Trump and I get the idea that politicians that know public policy have screwed things up.

Nope, I really don't think you do.
Posted by: LLatPoH at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (CQud6)

Agreed.

Posted by: Max Power at March 11, 2016 10:19 AM (QCc6B)

20 If we give in to tariffs, the tariffists win.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:19 AM (NQmg1)

21 But, but, but.... I hear Ted Cruz is unlikeable. So there's that.

Posted by: Scofflaw at March 11, 2016 10:20 AM (rGKRU)

22 This seems as good as any other way to start a Friday.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:21 AM (gmeXX)

23 I don't think Trump is a dumb guy. But I don't think he knows a damn thing about public policy.

If you know policy, but can't win elections, you are just a loser, and at best an "advisor."

Otherwise, you get knobs like Paul "the best we could do" Ryan. Democrats have been calling the Republican Party the Stupid Party for over 20 years. I am starting to think they are right.

Oh wait. Drew is a Libertarian.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 11, 2016 10:22 AM (dH97I)

24 The purpose of threatening China with tariffs is to push China to open their markets to US manufacturers. I'm skeptical that tariffs would work, but there are all kinds of non-tariff trade protections that countries use all the time (and that we sometimes do) that should be part of our trade policy.

England became a great economic power under a system of managed trade. America became a great economic power under a system of managed trade. As did Japan. As did China. The idea that what we call free trade is the path to economic prosperity is historically illiterate. Free trade is a recent invention, largely practiced by only one country to, at best, mixed results.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 10:22 AM (nFdGS)

25 Soooooo hated by the Establishment!

http://tinyurl.com/jlpkmfj

Look, you're too connected to just be ignorant. Update the talking points with "the grand coalition against Trump is forming," or something. Stop LYING to us if you want a prayer of stopping Donald Trump. You won't be the first or the last to lose every shred of credibility on points your own candidate has debunked.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 10:22 AM (MEHba)

26

But, but, but.... I hear Ted Cruz is unlikeable. So there's that.

Posted by: Scofflaw at March 11, 2016 10:20 AM (rGKRU)

Wasn't Ted Cruz right there, out front, voicing his support for Obama's TPA? Didn't Cruz also help fund every one of Obama's pet projects?

Yeah, I'll just vote for Trump, thanks.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 11, 2016 10:22 AM (0IhFx)

27 Hopenchange with a bad combover.

Posted by: Roy at March 11, 2016 10:23 AM (VndSC)

28 I am looking forward to the renovation of the WH with the yuuuge "Trump House" in gold lettering ten feet high. Very classy. And luxurious.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (NQmg1)

29 I listened to the hour long endorsement/press conference. It was very optimistic and pleasant. I have been in and out hospitals with my special needs daughter and just once, I wished I had met a doctor with a calming voice and presence like Dr. Carson.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (a0IVu)

30 A Trump thread? Anyone take the comment section to DEFCON 2?

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (VDc7u)

31 Carson...I no longer know what to make of him, other than to call his the consummate vanity campaign.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 10:17 AM (9krrF)

Yeah, I've been thinking about this.

I think it's a combination of 2 things:

1) As a Black guy, it's just got to burn his ass that the 1st Black President was such a catastrophic loser, failure, lazy ass, etc.

And wanted to present himself as a highly successful intelligent example of a Black guy alternative model for America t see.

2) He thought that he was going to get the Obama "gloves off" treatment by all involved and sort of glide through the proceedings

Posted by: naturalfake at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (0cMkb)

32 21 But, but, but.... I hear Ted Cruz is unlikeable. So there's that.
Posted by: Scofflaw at March 11, 2016 10:20 AM (rGKRU)

The only way to beat Hillary is to nominate a man who has a 58% disapproval rating, obviously. Running the equivalent of November 2014 Barack Obama/Iranian hostage crisis Jimmy Carter is a winning plan.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (sQQU0)

33 Why is Trump ahead of Cruz?

When the moment came Cruz hesitated and Trump asked the gal for a date.

That's why.

Posted by: eman at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (MQEz6)

34 Or maybe because the picture on your link, that of a young, eager-beavercampaign aide listening astutelywhile Trump is telling him to go fetch his slippers and Viagra, made you look suspiciously like a paid campaign operative.
Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2016 10:11 AM (+UeSQ)

It's Tom Brady. That picture is of Tom Brady and Donald Trump conspiring, presumably about a cocktail waitress. I thought it was funny. And not a particularly flattering picture of either of them.

How come when I have a strong opinion and won't let it go I'm a paid campaign operative, but when the blog goes in the bag for a candidate it's the right thing to do?

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 11, 2016 10:25 AM (5Me4G)

35 You know, I used to think Dr. Ben was a psycopath, I mean he was a psychopath because I said so. He stabbed a belt buckle? You can't stab a belt buckle. Look, it goes up and down.

So this guy who cuts open the baby heads, this absolute psychopaty, he gets a political career because he spoke up to Obama at a prayer breakfast. That wasn't very classy, but he was right. Obama is a very bad man. I've stopped talking about it but he isn't even and American.

Anyway, it turns out that when Carson loses like the losery loser he is and then turns around and says that I'm two-faced and my schtick is all an act to cow the public like the rubes they are, well that Dr. Babycutter is a smart guy and I am proud to accept his endorsement.

Posted by: Teh Donald at March 11, 2016 10:25 AM (1xUj/)

36 Gary Johnson is about to become the most relevant Libertarian candidate in history. Hope he's up to it.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:25 AM (tSSSX)

37 The only way to beat Hillary is to nominate a man who has a 58% disapproval rating, obviously. Running the equivalent of November 2014 Barack Obama/Iranian hostage crisis Jimmy Carter is a winning plan.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (sQQU0)

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HA! I wish I were at 58%!

ARF! ARF! ARF!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:27 AM (rsudF)

38 Trump is my sweet, sweet SMOD. I back Trump because I want to see the GOPe broken up into a million unrecognizable pieces. New beginnings are never easy

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at March 11, 2016 10:27 AM (VDc7u)

39 Cerebral is not a word I would have ever expected to be associated with Donald.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:27 AM (gmeXX)

40 I don't know what to make of all this despair. I have never in my life been so emotionally invested in a political candidate like some of you seem to be.

What is the attraction of being fatalistic?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 10:28 AM (WVsWD)

41 36 Gary Johnson is about to become the most relevant

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:25 AM (tSSSX)

I very much hope so! Say what you want about Donald Trump, but his negative stance against free trade means he was never getting the votes of the open borders crowd. If anything, the hyping of the useless, AGAIN, will bring reluctant Republicans around when they realize it's the same old third party trick.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 10:28 AM (MEHba)

42 A lot of people have been calling for burning down the party. A lot of members of the GOP base have been saying that the party doesn't represent them anymore. Trump was supposed to be the Chosen Instrument of Destruction. Was this not the plan? Are you not entertained? Or was Trump supposed to burn things down, but only a little?

Time to choose: burn down the party or nominate somebody who could lead the nation. Which is it?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:29 AM (RD7QR)

43 Like his bullshit in last night's debate about Chy-na.

He's gonna fight them with taxes on all those imports and we're gonna build factories here and make all that shit.

Walk through your WalMart, your Target, your BestBuy, shit, your Apple store. All that Chinese-made stuff, check it out. Go to Macy's, to Nordstrom's, everywhere.

We're gonna build factories here.

What a load of crap.

The problem is as Ace said yesterday. No one is willing to ask Trump questions. Ask him how, if we tax, say, iPhones, so that your monthly plan cost increases by 20 percent (yeah, that plan cost includes paying for the device), how is everyone going to feel about paying more?

And paying more for their socks, their disposable razors, their skinny jeans? How is everyone better off?

And who is really going to build those factories here?

But everything's gonna be great.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 11, 2016 10:29 AM (U6f54)

44 Waiting for the Cerebral Don...

Posted by: Dead Breath Holder at March 11, 2016 10:29 AM (yn6XZ)

45 HA! I wish I were at 58%!

ARF! ARF! ARF!
Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:27 AM (rsudF)
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It must be nice having a 16 point general election lead in your pantsuit's back pocket. You might want to beat the Curb Your Enthusiasm guy first though.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:29 AM (sQQU0)

46 The depressing thing is, when HRC is elected, the Trumpers are going to fume and stomp about being "stabbed in the back" by the establishment.

Don't believe it. I've been a reliable GOP vote farm for 20 years. I felt gleeful getting to cast a vote against Al Gore. I've been disgusted by Trump for years, and my opinion of him has only gone down.

I feel like the Trumpers have been conned. I regret it, but I can never vote for Trump. Even the Dems nominate this wretched person in HRC, then that's on them. I'm participating in none of this.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (tSSSX)

47 Setting all the nonsense aside, perhaps someone could actually explain to me where Ted Cruz captures 270 in the genral to win the presidency. That is the ultimate question is it not?

Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and tell me where and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into the race to carry states Mitt Romney did not.

There is no debating many of Cruz's superior qualities over those of Trump. However, until someone can give me a logical path to the presidency for Ted Cruz, I will continue to have my doubts.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (WnCSK)

48 But I don't think he knows a damn thing about public policy. Listen to him talk, it's a stream of slogans and fluffy promises to do things, great things! Awesome things!

So he sounds like every politician ever? Past and present.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (hTPJO)

49 Michael Savage has pointed out that, during one of the debates, he noticed Trump being courteous to Carson while getting ready to go up on stage. He made this observation many weeks ago with no issue of an endorsement in the discussion. Perhaps little interpersonal things like this matter to people.

Posted by: ejo at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (il4FI)

50 So the general election can be a reality-tv catch phrase spouting meme-machine versus a career criminal. We probably deserve this.

Posted by: brak at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (MJuTN)

51 Trump's policy on entitlements is to not do a damn thing to reign in the crushing debt they are causing.

Because he's cerebral and stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (/tuJf)

52 And paying more for their socks, their disposable razors, their skinny jeans? How is everyone better off?

And who is really going to build those factories here?

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America will become great again when we are manufacturing t-shirts and cheap toys.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (gmeXX)

53 Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and tell me where and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into the race to carry states Mitt Romney did not.

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Win CO, OH, FL, Iowa

Next question.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (gmeXX)

54 Excellent point in the post about tariffs being basically as bad as moving manufacturing to the US. In either case, we pay way more for goods and services, which actually retards economic growth. And the middle-class, which is the most price-sensitive, ends up with a lower quality of life.

For all the reasons we oppose a minimum wage increase, we should be opposing protectionist trade policy just as hard. It's the same damn thing!

Posted by: cjw at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (UJ59J)

55 So the public Donald is a dumbass but the private Donald is a genius. Does the private Donald have a problem with the public Donald's 'flexibility' on the issues?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (xzZPy)

56 38 Trump is my sweet, sweet SMOD. I back Trump because I want to see the GOPe broken up into a million unrecognizable pieces. New beginnings are never easy.
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Historically the dark truth about SMOD (Pieces Be Upon Us) is that the barbarians/Communist Party typically gets to run things for the next 100-1000 years.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (sQQU0)

57 Wake me up when there is a #NeverCruz movement started by the GOPe.

Then I'll start believing that the establishment dislikes Cruz just as much as Trump.

Until then, the claim is piffle.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (TFWFz)

58 53 Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and tell me where and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into the race to carry states Mitt Romney did not.

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Win CO, OH, FL, Iowa

Next question.

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Yup. I live one of those and was looking forward to voting for Cruz. Looks like all I will get to do is vote for Gary Johnson on principle, shrug, and wash my hands of the dumpster fire.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:33 AM (tSSSX)

59 As president Trump promises to give Tim Cook the stinkeye as long as it takes to force Apple to start building iPhones in America.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2016 10:33 AM (sl+zA)

60 We owe Trump a debt of gratitude for preventing Jeb! from being the nominee.

Beyond that, whatevs.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 11, 2016 10:33 AM (u0s1P)

61 Phyllis Schlafly will be endorsing Trump in a few hours.

Woohoo!!!

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 11, 2016 10:33 AM (TFWFz)

62 Don't believe it. I've been a reliable GOP vote farm for 20 years.

Yay. I've been a die-hard straight party ticket GOP voter for 30+ years. So much so that it took longer to check in and get my ballot than it did to check "Straight Republican Ticket".

No more. Done being lied to and getting fvcked.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (hTPJO)

63 41 36 Gary Johnson is about to become the most relevant

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:25 AM (tSSSX)

I very much hope so! Say what you want about Donald Trump, but his negative stance against free trade means he was never getting the votes of the open borders crowd. If anything, the hyping of the useless, AGAIN, will bring reluctant Republicans around when they realize it's the same old third party trick.

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It's all "negotiable." You're being conned.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (tSSSX)

64 It must be nice having a 16 point general election lead in your pantsuit's back pocket. You might want to beat the Curb Your Enthusiasm guy first though.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 10:29 AM (sQQU0)

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Did you know boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina? Who wants anither icky penis in the WH when I have a vagina? Have you heard about my vagina? My vagina is classy! You want to see my vagina? No stuby vagina on me, ain't that right Huma!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (rsudF)

65 Damn, I guess I'll just skip my morning reading of Drudge for the forseeable future. The ZOMG! Cruz has Jesus cooties headline is too much for me. More and more of the links are to infowars these days too. I'm out.

Posted by: no good deed at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (GgxVX)

66 59 As president Trump promises to give Tim Cook the stinkeye as long as it takes to force Apple to start building iPhones in America.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2016 10:33 AM (sl+zA)

They'll be luxurious iPhones. Really classy. TrumpPhones!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

67 In the end, Trump trumps The Hump, even for us chumps.
Because Cankles; rankles.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:35 AM (NQmg1)

68 Cruz campaigns like it is 1980.

Cruz thinks we need another Reagan.

Cruz is wrong.

It is too late for that model to work.

Posted by: eman at March 11, 2016 10:35 AM (MQEz6)

69 Donald Trump is using Cerebro? Call Professor X!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (2cS/G)

70 Win CO, OH, FL, Iowa

Next question.
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (gmeXX)

Might as well have said CA, NY, NJ, MA.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (TFWFz)

71 Ted is the anointed one, come one, come all and lay hands on our next dear leader who will lead America out of the darkness. Posted by: Benny Hinn at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (EIiez)

Should be pointed out that Cruz's father Rafael is a preacher. Should also be pointed out that Rafael Cruz is an incredibly brave and determined man.

And are you Trump people really going there? Attacking Cruz for his evangelical roots, I mean.I guess you are. I guess you also think--like your leader--that Planned Parenthood is a fabulous organization. Just fabulous.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (+UeSQ)

72 This is funny. Drew hasn't liked GOPe and now he has the anti-GOPe he doesn't like which one is there.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (hLRSq)

73 Does the private Donald have a problem with the public Donald's 'flexibility' on the issues?

It was the best of Dons, it was the worst of Dons.

Posted by: no good deed at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (GgxVX)

74 67 In the end, Trump trumps The Hump, even for us chumps.
Because Cankles; rankles.
Posted by: Joe Mama at March 11, 2016 10:35 AM (NQmg1)

Hix Nix Chix with Dix!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

75 @47 If you're supporting Rubio or Kasich, I can understand the inclination to doubt Cruz's ability to hit 270. Rubio had the best shot perhaps, Kasich had a shot looking just at the map though he hasn't much fight in him and probably would have been beaten up pretty badly in the general on tactics.

Trump is seriously in danger of not breaking 100 electoral votes if he's the nominee. If Trump and Cruz are the only options, the GOP should try to get Cruz across the finish line with the usual swing states on the back of Hillary's negatives.

Posted by: cjw at March 11, 2016 10:37 AM (UJ59J)

76 60 We owe Trump a debt of gratitude for preventing Jeb! from being the nominee.

Beyond that, whatevs.

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I agree that Jeb! deserves to be cast into the wilderness for provoking this dumpster fire by his arrogant, breathlessly entitled expectation that he could walk into a dynasty.

Good riddance to Jeb.

But we couldn't do better than Trump? With Cruz, Walker, Perry, even Jindal in there? No, Trump owns this. And his voters. Pyramid schemes always end with the most gullible getting shafted. As he well knows.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:37 AM (tSSSX)

77 "Win CO, OH, FL, Iowa "

You are joking right? If you think Cruz will beat Hillary here in Florida you are not being logical. Ohio I doubt as well but who knows. Same with Colorado.

If you assume the dems are essentially at 217 and you add in Florida (29) they are at 246. Add PA (20) back in because the only reason it is even in play now is because of Trump and they are at 266. Allt hey need is 4. And look over there at Nevada...6 points and Harry Reid will guarantee them.

All Hillary needs is those 3 and Cruz can take all the rest and they still win. And thats being generous and giving him NC.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:37 AM (WnCSK)

78 Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and
tell me where and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into
the race to carry states Mitt Romney did not.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (WnCSK)

I'm actually optimistic about either Trump or Cruz versus Hillary. She is so unlikeable that I think even Cruz would come out ahead against her on likeability. I think the Dem plan is to place her in witness protection after she secures the nomination so that no one remembers how unpleasant she is. To which the Reps should respond with ads that consist of nothing but Hillary's grating voice blaring out her idiocy.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 10:37 AM (nFdGS)

79 For all the reasons we oppose a minimum wage increase, we should be opposing protectionist trade policy just as hard. It's the same damn thing!

No, we're all populists now. Didn't you get the memo?

The conservative thing was cool for 50 years or so, but we've abandoned all that. It's all about bluster and hair weasels these days.

Posted by: Teh Donald at March 11, 2016 10:37 AM (1xUj/)

80 I like the fact that Trump may know little or could care less about public policy.

Those that do know public policy have been in charge for a long time now and boy it has worked just great! Well, not really.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (ej1L0)

81 "Trump is seriously in danger of not breaking 100 electoral votes if he's the nominee."

Zero basis for that....

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (WnCSK)

82 Drew continues to believe that if Trump is somehow defeated, that there is a path for Cruz to get the nomination.

Even though the Establishment GOP hates Cruz.

And the Establishment GOP will be the ones running the convention.

Is this like some alchemist's recipe for gold?

1) Melt lead
2) Add something
3) Stir
4) GOLD!

Pretty fucking simple, except for the "add something" details.

Drew (and apparently Ace) have it in their heads that it will all just work out. No reasoning, no discussion of the facts, just trust them that all the GOP elite has forgotten and forgiven Ted Cruz for all his sins.

Cruz would be just another candidate who didn't reach the required level. It would be easier for the GOP to justify bringing someone out of the blue (Mitt/Lindsey) than to pick one failed candidate over the others.

If were going to continue to hear this drumbeat to dump Trump and support Cruz, at least put out some scenario that explains why Cruz would end up with the nomination.

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (Zs4uk)

83 I'll vote for either Trump or Cruz in the general, but I've been told for years on this blog that I should be thinking "electability" above all else. So, voting Trump and hoping for

Trump/Cruz 2016 - Because You Can't Have Rick Perry!

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (w/iDp)

84 Political campaigns are all about marketing. Neurolinguistics used properly along with visuals gets a person elected ... TFG. Trump is a master marketer. He taps into the emotion and paints a story in minds. Once it is planted ... it's there and almost nothing will get it out. It's the reason so many turned into slobbering idiots for TFG. Is anyone ready for the realities of the job of president? It's a circus on both sides. Pat Paulson would be a better candidate than anyone running now. Not a dimes worth of difference in the parties at this point. IMO doesn't matter who is elected out of the six wanting the job now.

Hot Air ... it's all that is circulating. Empty words and promises. Psychological marketing to the masses began in the 30s (I think) and has continued to take hold of the population. Sound cynical? yep ... I am.

Posted by: watchingcircus at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (VbTye)

85 The thing that drives up the cost of American goods isn't tariffs or labor. It is the excessive costs of regulations. Regulations which in most cases are useless, or even in some cases, have a negative impact. IOW worse than useless.

Manufacturers have been screaming this for years and nobody is listening.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (t2KH5)

86 "I'm angry at the establishment" - now watch me put my head in the oven to teach them a lesson

Posted by: buzz at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (OQix2)

87 China stole all of our minimum wage vending machine novelty toy making jobs and Trump is the only one with a plan to raise taxes so we can get them back.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (1RNgT)

88 Have you heard about my vagina? My vagina is classy! You want to see my vagina? No stuby vagina on me, ain't that right Huma!
Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (rsudF)

It's like your channeling both tRump and Hellary!

Btw, if that's true, you forgot YUGE!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (kKHcp)

89 I am looking forward to the renovation of the WH with the yuuuge "Trump
House" in gold lettering ten feet high. Very classy. And luxurious.
________

No more of that 'rainbow' stuff -- only layered in solid 24 gold.

My prediction: DT wins Florida. Kasich Ohio and Illinois. Cruz everywhere else.

Illinois is so awful right now. The Hillary ad running on every news show is her in a red coat talking about Johnson Controls and how she will hunt them down and make them pay.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (MIKMs)

90 Wasn't Ted Cruz right there, out front, voicing his support for Obama's TPA? Didn't Cruz also help fund every one of Obama's pet projects?

Yeah, I'll just vote for Trump, thanks.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 11, 2016 10:22 AM (0IhFx)

Cruz also said Sessions was wrong about TPP. Ted voted when it counted (cloture) to give Obama fast track authority. Definite globalist play. If his only objection that moved him to opposition was the Import Export Bank, it's more proof that Cruz is a global shill.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (TFWFz)

91 "Win CO, OH, FL, Iowa "

You are joking right? If you think Cruz will beat Hillary here in Florida you are not being logical. Ohio I doubt as well but who knows. Same with Colorado.

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Sure let's go with the logic that Trump can beat Hillary despite every poll to the contrary and despite all the polls saying Cruz can. Great logic.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (gmeXX)

92 Huma! I want my Bloody Mary's with shot of Guinness thrown in. That's how Webb liked them.

Posted by: Hillary 2016! at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (gwG9s)

93 "When the moment came Cruz hesitated and Trump asked the gal for a date"

"Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fcuk the prom queen."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (LA7Cm)

94 Security at Trump St. Louis event increased after BLM threats.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (kXzR8)

95 I'm beginning to understand that the Trump fanatics are a bit unwilling to negotiate. They just want someone, anyone to blow up the "establishment". You know, the millions and millions of people who aren't as fervent as they are.

Trump is just their chosen suicide bomber.

It's because they've never seen a civil war, or a government fall. They've never been there as looters set fire and rob and pillage. As success waves of smaller, less capable governments fight for order by grinding the populace to dust.

Nothing good comes of it.

But Trumpamaniacs think they're ready. We'll see, I guess.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (iQr18)

96 Btw, if that's true, you forgot YUGE!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 10:39 AM (kKHcp)

__________________________________________

I'm saving that for the general.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (rsudF)

97 Did you know boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina? Who wants anither icky penis in the WH when I have a vagina? Have you heard about my vagina? My vagina is classy! You want to see my vagina? No stuby vagina on me, ain't that right Huma!
Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (rsudF)

---

There goes breakfast.

Posted by: SMFH at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (rlfds)

98 "Sure let's go with the logic that Trump can beat Hillary despite every poll to the contrary and despite all the polls saying Cruz can. Great logic."

Keep your head in the sand....

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (WnCSK)

99 If were going to continue to hear this drumbeat to dump Trump and support Cruz, at least put out some scenario that explains why Cruz would end up with the nomination.

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Because he would win a majority of the delegates.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (gmeXX)

100 Hix Nix Chix with Dix!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

Guess I'd better buckle up for that drive vacay in Dixie!

Posted by: Caitlyn at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (NQmg1)

101 81 "Trump is seriously in danger of not breaking 100 electoral votes if he's the nominee."

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Zero basis for that....

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Except every non-Internet poll Everywhere. Consistently. And getting worse.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (tSSSX)

102
Strange times indeed. Crazy weird political races.

Has hillary been indicted yet?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (ODxAs)

103 It is too late for that model to work.

Posted by: eman at March 11, 2016 10:35 AM (MQEz6)

We need Reagan++. So yeah, we need to take the lessons of 81-89 and the subsequent "no new taxes" betrayals and expand.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (dH97I)

104 For all the reasons we oppose a minimum wage increase, we should be opposing protectionist trade policy just as hard. It's the same damn thing!

I have a word. Speak it with me:

Reciprocity.

Do right by me, I do right by you.
Do wrong by me, I cut your throat.

It is long past time we relearned this.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (9krrF)

105 A lot of people at this blog are being exposed as poseurs. For all the talk about "SMOD" I see a lot of folks here clinging to the same old tired mannerisms and processes which have only led this country ever further into the abyss for the last couple of decades. Furthermore, they have a demonstrable history of supporting inferior candidates and getting things flat out wrong.

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=334683

Trump is the Sweet Meteor of Death for the political status quo in this country. If you're not on board with his campaign, that's fine. But don't one disparaging post article after another about him and try to tell me you're edgy outsiders looking to blow up the system. You're not.

Posted by: Foul Harold at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (FGvan)

106 "Sure let's go with the logic that Trump can beat Hillary despite every poll to the contrary and despite all the polls saying Cruz can. Great logic."

Cruz can beat Hillary but can't beat Trump. Suuuuuuure.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (hTPJO)

107 Trump's threat to raise tariffs?

Let's replace something that isn't working because we're not doing it and a lot of other things right with something we know has failed before.

Like shitting your pants there IS a little temporary warmth.

Posted by: DaveA at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (DL2i+)

108 Here is why Donald Trump is doing as well as he is.

The GOP has controlled the house for 18 of 22 years, the Senate for 12 of 22 and the White House for 8, with 4 years of GOP control of all three branches of Government and what did we get out of it, Wars, the massive expansion of leviathan and the security apparatuses and beurarcarcy, light bul bans, massive loss of freedom and libery, a debt that has gone from 5 trillion to 19trillion and is now impossible to pay off with out some massive gimmicks and resets, etc.

The GOP has been a massive, catostrophic and failure on every level.

Trump is the reaction to this failure.

Sucks but thats how it is.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (KhtM/)

109 TRUMP/CAMACHO 2016

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (Dttnn)

110 "Except every non-Internet poll Everywhere. Consistently. And getting worse."

Well by that logic, Cruz should drop out now because Trump beats him by 15 points nationally...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (WnCSK)

111 Look, we're going to get Hillary*/X, where X equals somebody who pleases one of the DemonRats' constituencies. We need to grow accustomed to this. Hillary, who is probably quite frail, will probably die in office. This will allow X, who will almost certainly be to the left of Obama, to cement the Socialismization of America.

Trump may not be in on the plan but he is an integral part of it.

*What, you thought there was still rule of law in our country? Sucka.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (RD7QR)

112 Posted by: WOPR at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

Can you justify your statement with any economic data that show that tariffs are anything other than an economic disaster?

I'll wait.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (Zu3d9)

113 Did you know boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina? Who wants anither icky penis in the WH when I have a vagina? Have you heard about my vagina? My vagina is classy! You want to see my vagina? No stuby vagina on me, ain't that right Huma!
Posted by: Hillary!

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Ho hum. Another fraudulent hate crime. See WZ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 10:43 AM (Nwg0u)

114 For all the reasons we oppose a minimum wage
increase, we should be opposing protectionist trade policy just as hard.
It's the same damn thing!

Posted by: cjw at March 11, 2016 10:32 AM (UJ59J)

Every great economic power became a great economic power under protectionist trade policies.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 10:43 AM (nFdGS)

115 Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (WnCSK)

Will you tell me how Drumpf wins the General Election with 35% of the Republican base? I'm not buying the democrats are switching over either. Democrats are resorting to Operation Chaos to get this bull shit artist into the General.

Btw, you Trump supporters ought to learn a little something from the pukes at Stormfront, here's a reposted quote from their Trump thread last night:

"Don Black understands and shares the enthusiasm many White Nationalists feel for Donald Trump, but Stormfront's proprietor urges some perspective. "He's probably not going to be our savior even if he does become president. We should be looking beyond this," Don says."

Get it? Voting for Trump isn't going to make your wildest dreams come true. Whether that be destroying the GOPe, Making America Great Again etc ad nauseum.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You 2016 sheep are just the same as the 2008 sheep. Baaaaaaah.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (cWAlb)

116 Trumpsters need to stop thinking he is inevitable even with a FL win. In the extremely likely event either Kasich OR Rubio drop out after
Tuesday, Cruz only needs to beat Trump 571-376 in delegates the rest of
the way. In a 3 man race this is certainly doable, especially if its
Rubes who exits. Assuming Kasich leaves (or takes VP slot), Cruz's
chances go from good to near certain in a 2 man race.

Posted by: pashmr at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (3aNC4)

117 My vagina don't feel no ways tired!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (rsudF)

118 Cruz is the better answer than Trump - in fairness, I've been on board with Cruz since his announced - but I think the race is too far gone. Trump will win the nomination partly because he says the right things, and partly because scrubs like Mario and the Mailman refuse to accept defeat.

Trump will be the nominee. I'll vote for him before Hillary, but I think we're throwing away a great opportunity to elect one of the strongest conservatives this country has seen in 30 years.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2016 10:45 AM (xpkI/)

119 Cruz is losing to Trump because Trump is better at this than Cruz.

Cruz just cannot grasp what is really happening.

Cruz is ready to be VP.

Posted by: eman at March 11, 2016 10:45 AM (MQEz6)

120 >>I have a word. Speak it with me:

>>Reciprocity.

I have two words for you:

Smoot Hawley

Is there a reason we have to do something that has proven to be a catastrophic failure because Trump says so?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 11, 2016 10:45 AM (/tuJf)

121 Because he would win a majority of the delegates.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (gmeXX)

That's the part that apparently you, Drew and Ace don't understand.

If you don't get to the required number, the delegates are released and it doesn't matter who got the most.

It's open.

Anyone can be the nominee.

Anyone who the people running the convention and controlling the delegates wants, that is.

Those people hate Ted Cruz.

They hate him more than they hate Trump.

They are not going to sit by and let him get the nomination.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 10:45 AM (Zs4uk)

122 "There are two different Donald Trumps..."

At minimum.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the one and only at March 11, 2016 10:46 AM (l/Pix)

123 Trumpsters need to stop thinking he is inevitable even with a FL win. In the extremely likely event either Kasich OR Rubio drop out after
Tuesday, Cruz only needs to beat Trump 571-376 in delegates the rest of
the way. In a 3 man race this is certainly doable, especially if its
Rubes who exits. Assuming Kasich leaves (or takes VP slot), Cruz's
chances go from good to near certain in a 2 man race.

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Exactly. But it really doesn't matter what we say. If Trump wins the majority of delegates, he wins the nomination. If Cruz does, he wins. If neither wins, then we will see what happens, but I doubt Trump will come out of the convention with the nomination.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:46 AM (gmeXX)

124 Looks like the anti-Carson racists have been smoked out. Disgusting.

Posted by: Andre at March 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Egupo)

125 Will you tell me how Drumpf wins the General Election with 35% of the Republican base?

How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (hTPJO)

126 It's all "negotiable." You're being conned.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at March 11, 2016 10:34 AM (tSSSX)

You vote -Libertarian-. You don't even know how the game operates, much less have any chance of beating it. Now, the truly annoying thing about Trump is that everything beyond his core platform is ambiguous:

1) Build a wall. (Relatively cheap, and how ruthless/ merciful he could be is negotiable. The cornerstone of this point is that the American government is the one to set their immigration policy. It's a nationalist principle, if not a "conservative" one.)
2) The political establishment is worthless. Well, mission accomplished! Trump has indisputably humiliated the mass media (including Fox) that have called him a racist charlatan since July. The GOP establishment is forced to back Ted Cruz out of desperation. Where do you think that all came from?

Mind you, that's two more points than the Libertarians have ever managed to be effective on. Of course the Wookie-suiters aren't voting Trump, but it's all right: it won't be the first time a divided field has paid huge dividends this cycle.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (MEHba)

127 124 Looks like the anti-Carson racists have been smoked out. Disgusting.
Posted by: Andre at March 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Egupo)

Maybe you'd like to point out the racist comments.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (RD7QR)

128 Do you really need a new iPhone every year? I don't think so. I'll side with Trump on the trade issue.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (cR/4a)

129 I don't get the Drudge thing today. What did Ted do to rile Matt up?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (LA7Cm)

130
The oldest president to assume office:

Bernie Sanders would be 75.35 years of age, Jan 20, 2017

Donald Trump would be 70.59 years of age, Jan 20, 2017

1) Ronald Reagan was 69.95 years of age, Jan 20, 1981

Hillary Clinton would be 69.3 years of age, Jan 20, 2017

2) William Henry Harrison was 68.06 years of age, March 4, 1841

3) James Buchanan was 65.86 yeas of age, March 4, 1857

Ted Cruz would be 46.07 years of age, Jan 20, 2017

Marco Rubio would be 45.48 years of age, Jan 20, 2017

43) John F Kennedy was 43.64 yeas of age, Jan 20, 1961

44) Theodore Roosevelt was 42.88 yeas of age, Sept 14, 1901

Posted by: Tommy Flanagan, The Pathological Liar at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (e8kgV)

131 A good strategy would be to dump on Trump for the next eight months, and keep dumping on him after he is elected President.

Posted by: Pastorius at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (gMAUH)

132 Posted by: Kreplach at March 11, 2016 10:42 AM (KhtM/)

I don't disagree that the Republicans should have done more but to be fair , many of those years in which they had the majority it was by the slimmest of margins. They still should have been able to maneuver toward more success but it wouldn't have been easy. Especially when that slim margin included at least four literal RINO senators.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (xzZPy)

133 as long as it takes to force Apple to start building iPhones in America.

I wonder if we even could? Did stuff early in my career for Apple Fremont, which moved to Elk Grove, and then Cork, Ireland by the next contract, never to be seen again. Offshore for almost 30 years? That's a lot of expertise and support industry to rebuild.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (w/iDp)

134 In the extremely likely event either Kasich OR Rubio drop out after Tuesday, Cruz only needs to beat Trump 571-376 in delegates the rest of
the way.

That's the thing; they won't drop out. Both are in it to play spoiler for Cruz or to earn a VP nod.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (xpkI/)

135 "How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump? "

That equation never enters their heads. You kind of like the guy who to the guy who lost to guy is now going to win.

Okay now.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (WVsWD)

136 "At minimum."

Heh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (LA7Cm)

137 If you don't get to the required number, the delegates are released and it doesn't matter who got the most.

It's open.

Anyone can be the nominee.

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I understand that completely. With due respect it seems like it is Trump and his supporters that do not grasp this. If no one gets a majority, we go to the convention. I'm willing to do this to avoid Trump. I'm under no illusion that Cruz would just win the convention fight - but he would have a better chance than Trump.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (gmeXX)

138 Obama's a blazing idiot and the 'intelligent set' still insist that he's one of our great Presidents. How hard can it be?

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (PvCxa)

139 "Gary Johnson is about to become the most relevant Libertarian candidate in history. "

And he will remain 'Gary Who?'

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (hLRSq)

140 117 My vagina don't feel no ways tired!
Posted by: Hillary! at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (rsudF)
_____________________

Amazing, considering you have a snuke up there.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (BDZWU)

141 Well, it's hard to say what Trump's actual position on trade is -- but I do think there is something to be said for rolling our eyes at "free trade agreements."

Politicians come up with these massive laws no one reads (and pass them as laws, not treaties) but slap 'free trade' in the title and we're supposed to go RAH RAH.

Free trade in and of itself does not require long bills. Just law tariffs, and a regulatory and customs regime aimed at allowing a fairly free flow of trade.

The problem is that that is never what we get. We get these "preferred nations" who really make fools out of us vis a vis trade while being called 'isolationists' when we say 'umm... why are there 1200 pages in a law (not a treaty) that supposedly supports "free trade"? Shouldn't that be, like, I don't know -- a page or two long?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 10:50 AM (AkOaV)

142 129 I don't get the Drudge thing today. What did Ted do to rile Matt up?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (LA7Cm)

Drudge = gay

Cruz = Evangelical

Evangelicals = Homosexuality is a sin, though we love the sinner.

Drudge = Fuck you.

We keep thinking Drudge is Our Guy, when in fact it's a lot more complicated than that.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:50 AM (RD7QR)

143 Max Power: ...Trump vs Hillary = everyone loses!
Embrace the suck, and keep your liquor cabinet well stocked.

No, no, I predict it'll be what nobody is yet foreseeing.

Brokered Republican convention chooses neither Trump nor Cruz. Democrats avoid criminal Hillary and the ancient Commie.

Joe Biden vs Mitt Romney - an echo, not a choice!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Nostradamish at March 11, 2016 10:50 AM (l/Pix)

144 Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:38 AM (WnCSK)

I agree.

I have Trump at 199 electoral votes, although I am giving him NY, which is a stretch. But it wouldn't surprise me, so......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:50 AM (Zu3d9)

145 I've said it before and I'll say it again. You 2016 sheep are just the same as the 2008 sheep. Baaaaaaah.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (cWAlb)

The only wild dreams I have involve alcohol and hookers and G3's. It never crossed my mind to include Trump in the mix but that might work. Trump, alcohol and hookers and G3's...woohoo!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (ej1L0)

146 It's because they've never seen a civil war, or a government fall. They've never been there as looters set fire and rob and pillage. As success waves of smaller, less capable governments fight for order by grinding the populace to dust.
Posted by: flashoverride at March 11, 2016 10:40 AM (iQr1

So Baltimore doesn't count? Watts? LA? Flint? Detroit every single dayum Devil's Night? None of them count? We already have government sponsored anarchy in the form of BLM (both Black Lives Matter and the Bureau of Land Management) and Occupy This or That?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (kXoT0)

147 Ben Cartwright endorses Trump?

Ponderous.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (NeFrd)

148 He may not know much about public policy. But one of the reasons Trump even exists is that Americans are tired of public policy. We have too much public policy.
Trump will surround himself with experts on public policy. What he will do is lead.

And he isn't even my first choice.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (r65B3)

149 Wait until they poll people on the idea of charging the countries we protect for that protection and applying the money to Social Security and the debt.

Trump apparently wants to win 49 states.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (Zs4uk)

150 138 Obama's a blazing idiot and the 'intelligent set' still insist that he's one of our great Presidents. How hard can it be?
Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 11, 2016 10:49 AM (PvCxa)

Our intelligentsia has mastered the art of believing things despite all the evidence. It's practically diagnostic.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:52 AM (RD7QR)

151 But don't one disparaging post article after another about him and try to tell me you're edgy outsiders looking to blow up the system. You're not.Posted by: Foul Harold at March 11, 2016 10:41 AM (FGvan)

I don't know that you could classify any conservative as an edgy outsider unless you put him or her in the middle of an ACORN staff meeting or aWomens Studies classroom.

I don't want to blow up the system. I want to save the Republic. The system has positive or negative value only insofar as it serves or hinders that end.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2016 10:52 AM (+UeSQ)

152
Ho hum. Another fraudulent hate crime. See WZ.

One little lie, and they get to be a hero.

Very tempting, particularly to people who are fundamentally unhappy.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 10:52 AM (oVJmc)

153 "General Election with 35% of the Republican base? "

So he will only have 35% of if he becomes the nominee?

By that logic, Cruz will only have 20%.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (WnCSK)

154 135 "How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump? "
That equation never enters their heads. You kind of like the guy who to the guy who lost to guy is now going to win.
Okay now.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (WVsWD)

I think the majority of teh Donald's support is coming from "Reagan Democrats" crossing over.

I also wonder whether they will stay crossed over when November arrives.

Posted by: jwb7605 at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (DofIg)

155 I have two words for you:

Smoot Hawley

Is there a reason we have to do something that has proven to be a catastrophic failure because Trump says so?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 11, 2016 10:45 AM (/tuJf)

Please describe specifically how Smoot-Hawley was a catastrophe. And if you say it caused the Great Depression you're going to have a problem with your timeline.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (nFdGS)

156 "Ponderous."

And Little Joe endorsed Ted. Very awkward around the ranch these days.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (LA7Cm)

157 I wonder if we even could? Did stuff early in my career for Apple Fremont, which moved to Elk Grove, and then Cork, Ireland by the next contract, never to be seen again. Offshore for almost 30 years? That's a lot of expertise and support industry to rebuild.
Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2016 10:48 AM (w/iDp)

Steve Jobs said he looked in to building the first iphone in the US.

Do you know why he didn't?

Not the cost of labor...

Not the strength/ weakness of the dollar...

Nope, he said it would cost over $1 billion more up front in regulatory expenses and would add approx. $100 (IIRC) to each phone.

...So why don't we look at the actual root of why people can't manufacture stuff like that in the US. Labor / shipping + importing tend to cancel each other out.

It always comes down to the mindless, idiotic regulations that require full time teams of lawyers and millions of dollars of lobbying.

And, of course, stupid union-imposed labor regulations.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (AkOaV)

158 Ponderous.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (NeFrd)

Quite a bonanza for Trump.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (Zu3d9)

159 As soon as Cruz started letting Beck speak at his rallies, it was over for him. Biggest mistake Cruz could make was being publicly associated with Beck.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (cR/4a)

160 What immediately popped into my head after reading about this endorsement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECewrAld3zw

Posted by: reform highlander at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (jCH/T)

161 The Cartwrights were NOT gay.

But thank God Hop-Sing was.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (oVJmc)

162 158 Ponderous.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (NeFrd)

Quite a bonanza for Trump.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (Zu3d9)

Everybody's so Hoss tile to The Donald.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (RD7QR)

163 135 "How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump? "

Didn't you read the formula upthread?

2) Add Something.
3) Stir
4) Cruz gets elected.

Pretty fucking simple.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (Zs4uk)

164 115
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 11, 2016 10:44 AM (cWAlb)

Sorry I intruded on your Ted Cruz safe-space.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (WnCSK)

165 Either you believe in conservative philosophy or you don't. If you think Trump will get you where you want to go (or get the country where you want it to go), you are not conservative. Conservatives believe that conservative policies get the outcomes you are looking for and everything else gets you worse outcomes. No matter how wonderful the promised outcomes of Hillary, Bernie, or Donald, their only tool is coercion. If you don't want the government controlling what you eat, drive, do, make, and think, pour every ounce of energy you have into Ted Cruz's campaign starting yesterday. Anything else is providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

Posted by: IanDeal at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (QgD01)

166 So he will only have 35% of if he becomes the nominee?

By that logic, Cruz will only have 20%.

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Depends if either can consolidate that 40 some odd % that has voted for neither. When Rubio gets out there will be a further winnowing. If Trump gets a bit of that support, he may get to 50% and win a majority - problem solved for the Trump supporters. If not, Cruz may get them and win a majority.

Maybe neither gets them.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (gmeXX)

167 We have too much public policy.

Trump will surround himself with experts on public policy. What he will do is lead.

And he isn't even my first choice.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2016 10:51 AM (r65B3)
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The big 'however' in that leadership equation is likely going around in circles. Same old, same old.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (MIKMs)

168 Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (nFdGS)

Uh...Smoot-Hawley was signed in 1930.

The depression didn't become the Great Depression for several years after that.

It absolutely contributed to the length and depth of the depression.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (Zu3d9)

169 The Pentecostal stuff will absolutely sink Ted Cruz in a General Election.

People kept dismissing all the crazy and weird things coming out of that campaign, but it's clear both Cruz and his wife have some views that are far outside mainstream Christianity.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (W1GMT)

170 I Smite Hawley.
I Smited Hawley.
Hawley has been Smoot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (Nwg0u)

171 I went to the salon the other day and trust me these people are NOT conservatives. They are dub-C hipster types, heavily tattooed, older Millennials. Most work in F&B (well, and the stylists) or have their own businesses/shops (I was there a while - needed color done!).

After a very cautious intro, and lots of "well he's kind of not my first choice but . . " - they ALL were going to vote Trump. Some were eventalking about party-switching to do so in the primary!

Hmm I might have to switch my registration . . nah it'll be fun to vote Bernie

It's political class vs. Americans. Clearer by the day.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (TLX//)

172 Intellectually you should support Cruz. Yet at some base level the reality is intuited: there is something wrong with Cruz outside politics. It may be the seemingly phony religiosity, and suspect that accounts for at least some of the unease. With Rubio, the repeated lying and smarmy, robotic Reagan recycling gives an easily pinpointed reason to reject him and prefer Trump.

With Hillary Clinton, we know she will sell out the country to the highest bidder and actively work to destroy our Constitution. Trump at least won't intentionally hurt the nation. The problem is he suffers "last person in the room syndrome," whereby his policies and ideology, such as there is one, is informed by his most recent conversation with a friend, family member, or member of the public.

We are fucked. Trump may provide KY.

Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (6gR7l)

173

Where's the beef?

Posted by: Dave Thomas at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (12kBq)

174
Obama's plan to "fundamentally change America" seems to be working.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 11, 2016 10:57 AM (RcpcZ)

175 The general electorate is going to be more afraid of Ted Cruz as a "Jesus freak" than Trump as a blustering idiot.

Just check out the Drudge Report right now. It has begun.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 11, 2016 10:58 AM (S2VsH)

176 Hawley has been Smoot.

Hawley whose father is Mark, or Hawley David's son?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 10:58 AM (1xUj/)

177 Posted by: IanDeal at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (QgD01)

yeah, except, as has been proven time and time and time again, Republicans love to talk big in the primaries, "pivot" (like an etch a sketch -- Romneys adviser) in the general, but get to DC and they ditch "conservatism" in about 2 seconds flat.

So in other words, they pander to you, treat you like an idiot, and never follow through on a single thing they've promised.

Even under Ronald Reagan, spending went up like crazy. you'd have to go back to calvin coolidge to find a republican who ran as a conservative, and governed as a conservative without "moderating" when he got to DC.

So... not a great track record.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 10:58 AM (AkOaV)

178 Pretty fucking simple.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 10:55 AM (Zs4uk)

No...simplistic.

If you don't understand the dynamics that are driving Trump's success in the Republican primaries than your occasional non-troll comments are obviously aberrations.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:58 AM (Zu3d9)

179 Ted is the anointed one, come one, come all and lay hands on our next dear leader who will lead America out of the darkness.

Posted by: Benny Hinn at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (EIiez)

ANOINTED

Posted by: Ted Cruz at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (3EerS)

180 Why don't people get that Trump is not a "conservative" - he's running his campaign as a nationalist.

Nationalists won't go for Cruz. That's why so many don't choose him. Most of Trump's support is from people who have been on the "conservative" bandwagon because they didn't even know there was such a thing, there hasn't been a viable nationalist candidate.

Posted by: JfromCT at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (NAFNy)

181 "Trumpsters need to stop thinking he is inevitable even with a FL win. In the extremely likely event either Kasich OR Rubio drop out after
Tuesday, Cruz only needs to beat Trump 571-376 in delegates the rest of
the way. In a 3 man race this is certainly doable, especially if its
Rubes who exits. Assuming Kasich leaves (or takes VP slot), Cruz's
chances go from good to near certain in a 2 man race. "

Don't misunderstand my point regarding the general. I am under no illusion that Trump is a shoe in for the Primary. It may very well be Cruz or some other party. I think Trump will take Flroida but not Ohio and that may mean the contested convention where I am sure Trump will not be the nominee.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (WnCSK)

182 I think the majority of teh Donald's support is coming from "Reagan Democrats" crossing over.
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Serriously? The majority?

I think that the anti-GOPe has to be 10x the crossover vote?

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (kXzR8)

183 I see that Matt Drudge is going all in on the 'Cruz crazy Christian' rant.

Dr. Carson, what we see and hear is what we see and hear. If any candidate cannot articulate a clear answer on policy with specifics then I don't care how cerebral they may or may not be in private. I am sure that your vacay at Mar-a-lago was fabulous!

Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (oiNtH)

184 We are fucked. Trump may provide KY.
Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (6gR7l)

So the best we can get is lube and maybe a reacharound. Perhaps. Franklin weeps.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:59 AM (RD7QR)

185 @81 Zero basis for that?? His 70% unfavorables? The fact that he loses to Hillary by 17 points? You can easily use a projection tool to see that if he loses 60-40, which is a reasonable expectation after the media finally turns on him, he would win the following states:

ID, UT, WY, ND, KS, OK, TX, KY, WV, TN, SC, GA, MS, AL. That's 131. GA is close to flipping blue in that scenario -- probably for a generation after the party is tarred with the label "Party of Trump" for the forseeable future.

Posted by: cjw at March 11, 2016 11:00 AM (UJ59J)

186 I don't want to blow up the system. I want to save the Republic.

You're trying to save a dessicated corpse. The Republic is long dead, my friend, probably before I was even born. What remains is a shambling mockery.

That's the difference we're having, and I've said it this way before I think--one is out to save a Republic that it sees as still viable, the other out to avenge one it sees as irrevocably fallen.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:00 AM (9krrF)

187 The question is smoot.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at March 11, 2016 11:00 AM (oVJmc)

188 If Trump gets a bit of that support, he may get to 50% and win a majority - problem solved for the Trump supporters. If not, Cruz may get them and win a majority.

Maybe neither gets them.

So 40% of the conservative electorate would rather have hillz or bern in office?

Doesn't sound too conservative to me.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:00 AM (hTPJO)

189 One anecdote that I think is interesting...

Hanging around waiting to pick up my daughter from a school event and chatting with the soccer moms. Keeping in mind this is a fairly liberal suburban NoVA area.

The subject of the election came up. The soccer moms I was chatting with do NOT like Hillary Clinton. At all. They are pretty much in Trump's column right now. And if it were Cruz v Clinton, they said they probably wouldn't bother voting at all.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (PFy0L)

190 The general electorate is going to be more afraid of Ted Cruz as a "Jesus freak" than Trump as a blustering idiot.

Just check out the Drudge Report right now. It has begun.
Posted by: Rusty Nail
_______________________

x10000

Trump overcharging for house flipping seminar is going to be much easier to overlook than a snake handler. (I'm being facetious)

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (W1GMT)

191
I'm surprised nobody has (as yet) found references to Trump by Nostradamus.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (RcpcZ)

192 ANOINTED

I LOL'd

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (kXzR8)

193 So... not a great track record.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

How much of that was due to a build up of our military and weapons in response to the Soviet Union's saber rattling?

Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (oiNtH)

194 Donald Trump is on Tee Vee, so he must be a real leader.

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (UBBWX)

195 If you don't understand the dynamics that are driving Trump's success in the Republican primaries than your occasional non-troll comments are obviously aberrations.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:58 AM (Zu3d9)

I understand Trump success in the primaries. It's Ace, Drew and others who are having a rough time.

Of course, they have a way of explaining it.

Trump supporters are obviously low-information racist bumpkins who are too fucking slow to comprehend complex political thought and strategy.

And, we piss in the shower.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Zs4uk)

196 You're trying to save a dessicated corpse. The Republic is long dead, my friend, probably before I was even born. What remains is a shambling mockery.

The Civil War killed it off, the moment we stopped being "these" united states and became "The" United States.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (PFy0L)

197 It's because they've never seen a civil war, or a government fall. They've never been there as looters set fire and rob and pillage. As success waves of smaller, less capable governments fight for order by grinding the populace to dust.

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Puh-leeze

Posted by: Bigby's Futile Gesture at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (3ZtZW)

198 Trump vs Hillary = everyone loses!

Embrace the suck, and keep your liquor cabinet well stocked.

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I'll be right over

Posted by: Hilary! at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (PNcou)

199 Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (PFy0L)

Any hot ones? Got any pictures?

Posted by: Typical disgusting Moron at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Zu3d9)

200 Shake a snake for Ted!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Nwg0u)

201 If you liked the Democrats in the White House, the Senate, and the House in 2009, you're gonna love 2017 after Hillary smokes Trump.

54-38 last poll. If Trump magically wins every single undecided over, you get 2008 except you lose Missouri too! Just saying you might want to get your Dolchstoß ready.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (sQQU0)

202 " I think Trump will take Flroida but not Ohio and that may mean the contested convention where I am sure Trump will not be the nominee."

Lets go back to the day Trump announced and count the comments that state Trump would be gone by so and so time.

My bet is they run in the thousands.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (WVsWD)

203 I'm surprised nobody has (as yet) found references to Trump by Nostradamus

The thing is, Trump is inoculated against stuff like this - and unfortunately it will be tried and it probably will work on the general electorate. He's the only candidate we have where people will just kind of shrug at crap like that.

Any other R candidate it would actually HURT them.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (TLX//)

204 Also, will somebody please explain to me how someone who can't get out of the primaries can have a better chance against their opponent than the one who apparently can? I hear this argument year after year, candidate after candidate, and I can never quite get the logic behind the assertion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (9krrF)

205 "There are two different Donald Trumps" -- Yeah, because he's a sociopath. How do people keep missing this?

Posted by: DriveBy at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (osV/M)

206 How much of that was due to a build up of our military and weapons in response to the Soviet Union's saber rattling?
Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (oiNtH)

Some.

And some was mandatory spending like SS and Medicare/ Medicaid.

But, remember, he ran on promising to shrink the size of the federal government. He promised to get rid of the (the then new) Department of Education.

...And yet...

And look, I'm not talking shit about Reagan. Just saying that talk is cheap.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (AkOaV)

207 38
Trump is my sweet, sweet SMOD. I back Trump because I want to see the
GOPe broken up into a million unrecognizable pieces. New beginnings are
never easy

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at March 11, 2016 10:27 AM
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GOPe won't be broken up with Trump. GOPe and Trump are two sides of the same coin: GOPe takes money from special interests; Trump gives money to GOPe for his own special interests.

What will be broken up into a million unrecognizable pieces is the country.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (E6RIJ)

208 "That's the difference we're having, and I've said it this way before I think--one is out to save a Republic that it sees as still viable, the other out to avenge one it sees as irrevocably fallen."

I think this is an excellent summation of the "LIB" mindset.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (LA7Cm)

209 If it weren't almost tragic, this would be funny.
We're arguing daily about what kind of future America we'd like to see, when we can't even keep the good parts of current America in the present.

Like a George Romero movie, but while the undead are pushing at the doors and windows and walls, we fight over what design is best for the new dining room.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (kKHcp)

210 What this country needs is more control-freak conservatives telling people how to think and vote!

Posted by: Meremortal at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (3myMJ)

211 As I speed-scan through the comments, sometimes I see a light breaking through the fog and smoke.

The thing that drives up the cost of American goods isn't tariffs or labor. It is the excessive costs of regulations....

I wonder how that could happen. Then I look at the sig. Oh, of course!

Posted by: Vic

Posted by: mindful webworker - of course at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (l/Pix)

212 So 40% of the conservative electorate would rather have hillz or bern in office?

Doesn't sound too conservative to me.

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No, simply means that Trump doesn't get to win the nomination if he only gets a plurality of the votes. Having a plurality does not entitle him to the nomination. If Trump wants to win the nomination, get a majority of the delegates. Pretty simple.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

213 Ugh the stuff on Drudge about Cruz.

Can't wait for the media to hit him as a religious weirdo.

Say goodnight, Ted.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2016 11:04 AM (4ErVI)

214 191
I'm surprised nobody has (as yet) found references to Trump by Nostradamus.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (RcpcZ)

When the Hair Weasel is in Lyon

And the casino is yuge,

Fire, brimstone, really luxurious accommodations

In the Ton of Washing.

The shrieking hag comes by day.

Posted by: Nostradomuscelli at March 11, 2016 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

215 Things that don't go together:

Pickles and cake
Jane Fonda and William F. Buckley
Kaboom! and an advanced society
Gills and humans
Donald Trump and the word cerebral

That's not to say he's a dumb guy. He didn't get to where he is by being dumb. But when I think of someone "cerebral," I do not think of Donald Trump. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (pVkEV)

216 So in other words, they pander to you, treat you like an idiot, and never follow through on a single thing they've promised.

Even under Ronald Reagan, spending went up like crazy. you'd have to go back to calvin coolidge to find a republican who ran as a conservative, and governed as a conservative without "moderating" when he got to DC.

C'mon Charlie Brown. Kick this football.
-Lucy

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (hTPJO)

217
People kept dismissing all the crazy and weird things coming out of that campaign, but it's clear both Cruz and his wife have some views that are far outside mainstream Christianity.Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (W1GMT)

No, it isn't clear. If by 'mainstream Christianity' you mean dying, uber-liberal, hyper-politicizedchurches such as the Episcopalian and (now) Disciples of Christ and Presbyterian protestant denominations, then sure, most evangelical Christians would probably agree that they're outside it.

But if you're implying that Cruz and his wife Heidi are weirdo quasi-cultists, then no. You're just smearing them, playing the 'Other' game, and it won't work.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (+UeSQ)

218 "Zero basis for that?? His 70% unfavorables? The fact that he loses to Hillary by 17 points? "

Hillary's unfavorables are almost just as bad. All that changes when the primary is over and the candidate has been selected.

Loses by 17 points? You actually believe a poll for an event 8 months from now? Again, by that logic Cruz has no chance to Trump because he is losing to Trump by 15 points nationally. Do you believe that one?

Forget projection maps, just look at the 2012 map of Mitt Romney and the approximately 8 swing states and try to determine which Cruz can take.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (WnCSK)

219 180 Nationalists won't go for Cruz. That's why so many don't choose him. Most of Trump's support is from people who have been on the "conservative" bandwagon because they didn't even know there was such a thing, there hasn't been a viable nationalist candidate.
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In case you haven't noticed the fighting tooth and nail, a lot of us are not fucking nationalists.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (sQQU0)

220 Remember back in those heady days when we were told this was the strongest line up of candidates we've had in decades?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (4ErVI)

221 That's not to say he's a dumb guy. He didn't get to where he is by being dumb. But when I think of someone "cerebral," I do not think of Donald Trump. Not by a long shot.

Um please show me the cerebral politicians?!?!

seriously who cares

I'm cerebral - I fucking code. I couldn't lead three kids to an XBox

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (TLX//)

222 If they don't behave, we will just impose a 45% tax on imports - may be lower. Then we will just build factories in America and produce all this stuff here! See how easy that is?

Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (oiNtH)

223 Ugh the stuff on Drudge about Cruz.

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Drudge has been ticking me off lately. It's pretty obvious that he isn't much of a Cruz fan. YMMV.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (pVkEV)

224 Yet at some base level the reality is intuited: there is something wrong with Cruz outside politics. It may be the seemingly phony religiosity, and suspect that accounts for at least some of the unease.

Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (6gR7l)

Biggest mistake Cruz could make was being publicly associated with Beck.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 11, 2016 10:54 AM (cR/4a)

I think as strategy goes, it was a calculated risk: Cruz was trying to overwhelm among evangelicals and force the establishment to recognize him. If Bush/ Rubio had realized early what they were facing, maybe Cruz could have locked it up early? But this is the problem: WHEN Cruz tries to look like a regular guy in northern states and disavow Beck, it will look transparently phony. Because it is. And then Trump will smash him. Cruz needed to be well ahead in order to win, and alone against Trump in states like New York and California I wouldn't give you a bent nickel for his chances.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (MEHba)

225 Oh, and if Trump loses, I would imagine the coattails for Hillary mean the loss of the Senate at minimum.

He's going to push Dem turnout sky high.

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (UBBWX)

226 Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Zs4uk)

You are being argumentative and ignoring 99% of what is being written by your hosts.

Trump is most successful in open primary states.
Trump underperforms the polls.
Trump has consistently polled at a lower ceiling than Cruz and Rubio.

The conclusions are obvious. Whether you like Trump or hate Trump, the conclusions are the same.

Posted by: Typical disgusting Moron at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (Zu3d9)

227 Uh...Smoot-Hawley was signed in 1930.

The depression didn't become the Great Depression for several years after that.

It absolutely contributed to the length and depth of the depression.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 10:56 AM (Zu3d9)

Not according to Milton Friedman.
Also, the Great Depression had already started in 1929. Smoot-Hawley affected only one third of our trade and didn't represent a huge increase in average tariffs and was economically pretty insignificant (the net change in trade was about .3 percent of GDP which was a blip in the depression). We have historically had tariff increases without resulting depressions, and depressions without tariff increases.
You assert that Smoot-Hawley created or prolonged the Great Depression. Prove it.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (nFdGS)

228 I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (MJuTN)

229 out, damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (Zu3d9)

230

I Smite Hawley.
I Smited Hawley.
Hawley has been Smoot.

I'm pretty sure the past tense of "smite" is smat.

And that the Brits call it "smot."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (LUgeY)

231 Can't wait for the media to hit him as a religious weirdo.

It was inevitable.

Ever since Iowa, the Dems had the video they'd be using if Cruz was the nominee.

Better to get it out of the way now, if it damages him in the primary, it will KILL him in the general.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (oVJmc)

232 The thing that drives up the cost of American goods isn't tariffs or labor. It is the excessive costs of regulations....

I keep saying that if your plan's first step isn't ditching a couple decades' worth of regs, you're not really serious.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (9krrF)

233
Drudge has been ticking me off lately. It's pretty obvious that he isn't much of a Cruz fan. YMMV.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (pVkEV)

Is it true? If it's true better to know about now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (4ErVI)

234 223 Ugh the stuff on Drudge about Cruz.

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Drudge has been ticking me off lately. It's pretty obvious that he isn't much of a Cruz fan. YMMV.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (pVkEV)

Thats just Drudge being Drudge.

The 13 minute long video, if you'll notice, was posted in 2013.

So Drudge has probably been sitting on that for quite some time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (AkOaV)

235 Good times, good times.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (4ErVI)

That was before people had to face the reality that is Trump. Now that he actually has a shot at the nomination, destruction must be leveled.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 11:08 AM (WVsWD)

236 "175 The general electorate is going to be more afraid of Ted Cruz as a "Jesus freak" than Trump as a blustering idiot.

"Just check out the Drudge Report right now. It has begun."

There is some merit to the belief that Evangelicals have abandoned Cruz and flocked to Trump because they know abortion, gay marriage and other social issues have been lost. But given the magnitude of the phenomenon, it seems even the Evangelicals are uncomfortable about aspects of Cruz's religiosity. What that may be I don't know, but just imagine the general electorate confronted with the prospect of a president who speaks in tongues. It won't fly.

Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 11:08 AM (6gR7l)

237 Cruz is the choice of us intellectuals. Nuff said.

Posted by: Flancho at March 11, 2016 11:08 AM (72spU)

238 Also, will somebody please explain to me how someone who can't get out of the primaries can have a better chance against their opponent than the one who apparently can?

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At least a couple possible explanations.

1. The electorate that votes in the primaries is not the same as the electorate that votes in the general.

2. States that aren't relevant in the primary process can be relevant in the Electoral College process.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 11:08 AM (NeFrd)

239 I find myself at every debate, fascinated by Donands Hair. Is it a combover, a combforward? A hybrid mix?

Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 11, 2016 11:09 AM (PNcou)

240 I don't think Trump is a dumb guy. But I don't think he knows a damn thing about public policy.

To hear Cruz, you'd think Trump has been formulating public policy - through his buying of Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, etc.

Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at March 11, 2016 11:09 AM (aeVIR)

241 In case you haven't noticed the fighting tooth and nail, a lot of us are not fucking nationalists.

If you're not a nationalist, where do you fall between that and globalism?

It's kinda important, actually.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:09 AM (9krrF)

242 Do you know why he didn't?
Not the cost of labor...

Well aware of the consequences of regulation- I live in them.

On the bright side, our fertile, powerhouse of an industrial region now produces apps. Well, we design them at least, and manage the marketing campaigns.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (w/iDp)

243 Remember back in those heady days when we were told this was the strongest line up of candidates we've had in decades?

Good times, good times.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

it gets worse. The GOPe is in love with the worst of them. Unless trump or Cruz gets 1237 AND they keep the delegates in line AND they stay faithful during round one, it goes to the control of the GOPe and everything goes straight to Hell. It'll be Romney and rubio or kasih.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (326rv)

244 Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (nFdGS)

Friedman was a smart guy. But he is a monetary policy guy. There are other things going on in economies, and international trade is one of them.

I didn't say Smoot-Hawley started the depression, I said it made it worse and longer.

There are plenty of economists who agree.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (Zu3d9)

245 225 Oh, and if Trump loses, I would imagine the coattails for Hillary mean the loss of the Senate at minimum.

He's going to push Dem turnout sky high.
Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (UBBWX)

I don't know. I suppose its possible, but virtually every Democrat I know is either an enthusiast Bernie supporter or a reluctant Hillary supporter.

I don't think Hillary gets sky high turn out no matter what.

I'm not saying a significant number of bernie voters would vote for Trump, but I am saying the enthusiasm will not be there.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (AkOaV)

246 232 I keep saying that if your plan's first step isn't ditching a couple decades' worth of regs, you're not really serious.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (9krrF)
I agree; unfortunately it would not make a darn difference in states like California since our state and district regulations are way more stringent than federal regulations.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (a0IVu)

247 There are plenty of economists who agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (Zu3d9)

ahh, the old most-economists-agree-with-me gambit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (AkOaV)

248 I get the anger driving Trump and I get the idea that politicians that know public policy have screwed things up. What I don't get is the idea that Trump is the answer.

I think the key is what is the question being asked.

If the question is who is the best person left standing who will advance a conservative agenda, it's Cruz (presume appropriate caveats here).

If the question is who is the best person to go all Godzilla over everything since elections do not seem to change public policy, it's Trump.

Here is the 2010 Pledge to America - http://www.gop.gov/resources/library/documents/pledge/a-pledge-to-america.pdf

Yeah, go read that and tell me which question most voters are asking and which answer they are seeking.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (mf5HN)

249 217

Cruz's Dad is a Pentocostal minister, and according to what I've read, both Ted and his wife are as well.

We're going to wish we ran another Mormon when people get a look at a Pentocostal service where speaking in tongues is a pretty regular thing.

And don't think for a minute the MSM will overlook it.

Suddenly a guy putting his name on some crappy steaks doesn't seem like as big a deal.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (W1GMT)

250 Trump is not going to change anything.

People who believe Trump will shake up the system need to wake up.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, etc. all delivered very little

Trump will get his vanity stroked for 4 - 8 years, and cut some deals that are bipartisan junk as we have had under Obama.

Lobbyists will love Trump! He's one of them.

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (UBBWX)

251 191
I'm surprised nobody has (as yet) found references to Trump by Nostradamus.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 11, 2016 11:01 AM (RcpcZ)

__________________________________________

"From the depths of the East of Manhattan
A young child will be born of rich people,
He who by his tongue will seduce a great troop;
His fame will increase towards the realm of the Steak Eaters."

"Voters ferocious with hunger will cross the party line
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Trums.
Into a cage of classy will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Trums University learns nothing."

Posted by: Nostradumbass at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (rsudF)

252 Drudge has been ticking me off lately. It's pretty obvious that he isn't much of a Cruz fan. YMMV.

Drudge has gotten a little flaky the past few years, what with all the Infowars links and all.

I'd say he's trumpeting Trump pretty clearly, but whether it's personal conviction or his usual muckraking, I dunno.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oVJmc)

253 At least a couple possible explanations.

Both quite true, which brings up interesting questions regarding the entire Primary process. But it also brings up existential issues for the party itself.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (9krrF)

254 Are these the same economists who released the chart based on Keynesian formulas that showed what the unemployment numbers would be with and without the stimulus package?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (AkOaV)

255 Ick. Sock off.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (oVJmc)

256 @151

You're whistling past the graveyard. It doesn't matter whether it's Trump, Cruz, Clinton, or Sanders. 19+ trillion dollars in debt, 60 million unassimilated immigrants, and an entrenched and hopelessly corrupt federal bureaucracy are beyond repair. It's only a matter of how we pick up the pieces.

You guys are like marks at a high stakes poker game, playing fair while all those around you are using a loaded deck. To quote Kenny Rogers, "You've got to know when to hold 'em. Know when to fold 'em. Know when to walk away, and know when to run." I left the table a long time ago.

Posted by: Foul Harold at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (FGvan)

257 If Trump and Hellary are the respective nominees, I predict that a majority of Americans will at the very least realize our political process has broken.

I don't know if R's or D's voting will be more depressed, but total votes will be down nationwide, because unlike us junkies, average Americans don't feel a need to vote for a person they don't like.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (kKHcp)

258 Look this never Trump shit here all the time is becoming a little boorish. Just to be clear, I am currently voting for Cruz, but if Trump is the candidate, I will be first in line to vote for him.

The impression I get from these postings is you will vote for your candidate, and in the meantime the Leftist Flamethrower Tactics will be applied to Trump in an attempt to derail his eventual selection as our candidate, and then ultimately the presidency.

Because "you're going to sit home" or "vote for Hillary"- you probably don't give a shit about the future. Which is fine. Your choice. I am ultimately fine with that because if Trump does win, you lose leverage, prestige and can sit around at your circle-jerk conventions and lament "how far the country has fallen".

That's a win where I come from. Because I'm a little sick of the intellectual dishonesty from people who have become a mirror image of everything they purport to hate. It's actually fraudulent in almost all aspects.

Maybe your just weak and have a lot of trepidation about what Trump will do- fair enough. But personally I know he will be better than the converse.

By the way, so does a growing dynamic of voters across demographics and in numbers we have not seen for some time.

It's really time to dig deeper for a bigger pair.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (O0lVq)

259 Posted by: Typical disgusting Moron at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (Zu3d9)

Here's what I don't get: Acknowledging on one hand that Trump does crazy well in states with open primaries, and then claiming he will get slaughtered in the general.

Do you have any clue how many voters are not registered as Rep or Dem? Lots.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (S2VsH)

260 I thought the Smut-Hauling bill had to do with transporting pornography across state lines.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (NeFrd)

261 It's amazing those who harp on Trump over not getting into the specifics of public policy. Yet we hear all the professional politicians just whip out the talking points time and time again saying they're going to do this and that, and they end up doing not one fucking thing they say they're going to do. And yet you think that Empty Political speech by other Candidates is supposed to impress us and sway people away from Trump?

Girl Puhleeze!

Posted by: zzBottom at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (LxBcy)

262 Not according to Milton Friedman."

"However, it did impose heavy costs on the American consumer, did deepen the Depression, and did usher in a decade of "beggar thy neighbor policies" around the world."

"Outdoing Smoot-Hawley" by Milton Friedman, 20 April 1987.

CBD ftw.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (C9pBZ)

263 How come no one has pointed out that tariffs would be illegal under the WTO?

Posted by: Apostate at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (MBvAh)

264 Suddenly a guy putting his name on some crappy steaks doesn't seem like as big a deal.
Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (W1GMT)

CRAPPY steaks?

Careful, or Trump will sue you.

From what I've heard, they're the most fabulous, world class, amazing steaks ever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (AkOaV)

265
The Civil War killed it off, the moment we stopped being "these" united states and became "The" United States.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 11, 2016 11:02 AM (PFy0L)

Cripes, not that shit again. You lost, okay? Zombie Lincoln is not doing an apology tour. Get over it.

Posted by: troyriser at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (+UeSQ)

266 >>Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90

His hair would stand up and shake.

Posted by: Aviator at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (c7vUv)

267 Ted is the anointed one, come one, come all and lay hands on our next dear leader who will lead America out of the darkness.

Posted by: Benny Hinn at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (EIiez)

Is he going to lower the oceans and heal the planet? Maybe put up some styrofoam Greek columns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (493sH)

268 263 How come no one has pointed out that tariffs would be illegal under the WTO?
Posted by: Apostate at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (MBvAh)

because
a) that's not true. We have tariffs, as do most countries.

b) no one gives a shit about "international law" which is meaningless and stupid

and

c) well, refer back to b.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (AkOaV)

269 Kasich will probably be Trump VP if he wins nomination. Would cruz pick him as well?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:14 AM (WnCSK)

270 Trump is not going to change anything.

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I agree. Not only that he is a pro-government, liberal. So even if he is the best chance for the GOP to win in November (which I do not agree with), I would not support him. Obviously, many disagree. So be it. That's why we have elections. And right now Trump has not won the nomination. Until he does, we can still fight for Cruz.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:14 AM (gmeXX)

271 And Little Joe endorsed Ted. Very awkward around the ranch these days.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:53 AM (LA7Cm)

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dayum. I thought I had the little people vote locked up. Height traitor!

Posted by: Little Marco at March 11, 2016 11:14 AM (PNcou)

272 "If the question is who is the best person to go all Godzilla over everything since elections do not seem to change public policy, it's Trump."

So, if he doesn't go godzilla, will you admit error?

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 11:14 AM (UBBWX)

273 What the hell is wrong with Carson? How do you endorse someone who compared you to a child molester and called you a psychopath? This must be an attempt to be picked as Trumps VP

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:14 AM (2x3L+)

274 >>Please describe specifically how Smoot-Hawley was a catastrophe. And if you say it caused the Great Depression you're going to have a problem with your timeline.

Did I say it caused the Great Depression? No I did not. But they sure as hell did not help.

It was terrible protectionist policy that the vast majority of economists condemned as stupid. Could be why they were all repealed and we enjoyed a period of unmatched economic expansion.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (/tuJf)

275 Kasich will probably be Trump VP if he wins nomination. Would cruz pick him as well?

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Quite possible.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (gmeXX)

276 I keep saying that if your plan's first step isn't ditching a couple decades' worth of regs, you're not really serious.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:07 AM (9krrF)

A candidate that actually meant to do that would be first inundated with lobbyists making sure their protected turf wasn't at risk. If they could resist the gobs of money tossed their way and still wanted to deregulate, then

Boom! Hope you picked a good vice-president.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (kKHcp)

277 Here we go - Reporter Files Criminal Complaint Against Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (cR/4a)

278 You assert that Smoot-Hawley created or prolonged the Great Depression. Prove it.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:06 AM (nFdGS)

Oh....ask Thomas Sowell.....

He seems to think that Smoot-Hawley contributed significantly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (Zu3d9)

279 @204 You can argue (and I sorta agree) that the SKILLS needed to win an election should be demonstrated in the primaries, by showing tactical and organizational ability. But any candidate who wins several state primaries and caucases has proven that basic level of viability. Yet Trump actually has NOT shown any organizational ability, his org is a damn train wreck. And his tactics will play much worse when the percentage of voters with houndstooth hats and "Roll Tide" bumper stickers declines in the general election.

Posted by: cjw at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (UJ59J)

280 Geez, banned because I said the name? Sorry I was poking fun like alot of posters here. I actually was trying to ease the situation with a different subject however, I don't care lol

Posted by: FCF at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (kejii)

281 "And right now Trump has not won the nomination. Until he does, we can still fight for Cruz."

Absolutely. Cruz was excellent last night...the school choice bit was what the GOPe should have been pushing for the last 16 years to make inroads with the minority communities. Glad he brought it up.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (WnCSK)

282 260 I thought the Smut-Hauling bill had to do with transporting pornography across state lines.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (NeFrd)

true. Fun fact: thats where the phrase "I know it when I see it" comes from.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (AkOaV)

283 263 How come no one has pointed out that tariffs would be illegal under the WTO?

Posted by: Apostate at March 11, 2016 11:13 AM (MBvAh)

Until the WTO has a few carrier battle groups, may I suggest that it doesn't matter what they think?

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Zs4uk)

284 What has Ted accomplished?

Posted by: mortimer snerd at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (i7PoZ)

285 273 L, Elle; He said he has forgiven Trump (and Cruz) as his Christian faith requires him to. He is a better person than me, that's for sure.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (a0IVu)

286 the school choice bit was what the GOPe should have been pushing for the last 16 years to make inroads with the minority communities. Glad he brought it up.

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Same here - though it isn't a federal issue - except to the extent that the Court has a say in it.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (gmeXX)

287 I'm pretty sure the past tense of "smite" is smat.

And that the Brits call it "smot."

*raises hand*

Posted by: Smut at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (1xUj/)

288 As Ted Cruz pointed out last night, there's no there there.
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Ted Cruz really said that? From a half-term Senator whose most notable achievement was reading Dr. Seuss on the Senate floor?

LOL

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (JBggj)

289 Whatever you pick it means more Americans will be poorer and have a lower standard of living.

Posted by: DrewM. at 10:12 AM
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"Poorer" today means not having the latest smartphone, but an older model.

I think a lower living standard through higher costs is worth considering if we can actually boost employment.

Getting some of the useless stuff we re all chasing after, 50 bucks cheaper doesnt really compare to having a kid grow up seeing daddy unemployed, sitting on the couch all day.

I am so old, I have experienced pre-NAFTA America and funny enough, I dont recall it being an economic wasteland, which supposedly is what you get without free trade deals, according to folks like Frequent Podcast Guest Scott Lincicome and his CATO cronies.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (PCuoe)

290 It's going to be interesting around here once Trump becomes the candidate. It's going to be a moment of reckoning for the newly minted trolls.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (O0lVq)

291 He seems to think that Smoot-Hawley contributed significantly."

So did Milt. See quote above.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (C9pBZ)

292 Ted Cruz is a trial lawyer.

Sure he once wrote a brief suggesting that the stimulus funds be used to send checks to every retired teacher in his state because that was the way to stimulate the economy.

Yes, even trial lawyers have good hearts, but they are still trial lawyers.

He would be a good solicitor general - that is what he has trained to be, not a CEO of the nations largest enterprise.

Besides, thus far he has failed to get a court opinion on the merits that a person with a single citizen parent who was born in another country, is constitutionally eligible to be President.

He has had ample opportunity but at every turn instead of proving he is, took the opportunity to have the cases thrown out for procedural reasons - ample proof that he knows he is not eligible - and thus ample proof that he really isn't a constitutionalist, just paid to be one.

Posted by: doug at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (04RUy)

293
We're going to wish we ran another Mormon when people get a look at a Pentocostal service where speaking in tongues is a pretty regular thing.

Fix: Announce that at one of these services, they all started saying "Goddamm Amerikkka."

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (326rv)

294 Cripes, not that shit again. You lost, okay? Zombie Lincoln is not doing an apology tour. Get over it.

*I* didn't lose.

Besides, I'm not Virginian by birth nor did I grow up here. It's possible to have an honest opinion about this without being a native Southerner.....

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 11, 2016 11:18 AM (eytER)

295 Looks like Kari is getting the MUMR treatment.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:18 AM (oVJmc)

296 260 I thought the Smut-Hauling bill had to do with transporting pornography across state lines.

I thought it had to do with cheesy puns.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:18 AM (hTPJO)

297 I hear this argument year after year, candidate after candidate, and I can never quite get the logic behind the assertion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (9krrF)

I think it works this way: "I favor this guy, and because I favor this guy other people ought to favor him too. So if you guys will drop your petty disagreements and get behind him we will march to an inevitable victory."

And if we had only won that division championship game we would have won the Superbowl.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (hLRSq)

298 I'm pretty sure the past tense of "smite" is smat.

And that the Brits call it "smot."

*raises hand*

Posted by: Smut at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (1xUj/)
Ahem.

Posted by: Jimmy Smits at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (oVJmc)

299 not a CEO of the nations largest enterprise.

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Did I miss something? Did Cruz apply for a job at a large business enterprise?

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

300 ...people who have become a mirror image of everything they purport to hate. It's actually fraudulent in almost all aspects.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM (O0lVq)
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You mean like the Trump supporters who tell us he's the most electable man who can beat Hillary, but actually Let It Burn SMOD; the consummate establishment businessman dealmaker, but actually going to blow up the establishment promise you guys; the guy who outsources jobs and companies to foreign countries, and also that's really bad and immoral and we'll stop it; abortion is bad, and Planned Parenthood is ok and pretty cool you can't deny that.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (sQQU0)

301 And right now Trump has not won the nomination"

Geesh. Trying to put a damper on all the fun here?

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (C9pBZ)

302 Cult gotta cult.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (OQ9R7)

303 GoK is banned? Seriously? He was passionate but I don't remember him being offensive or derogatory.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (a0IVu)

304 I thought it had to do with cheesy puns.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:18 AM (hTPJO)

__________________________________

You're gouda regret saying that.

Posted by: NotCoach, HotAir Shithead at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (rsudF)

305 Did I miss something? Did Cruz apply for a job at a large business enterprise?
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

I think he was angling for a job at WalMart, IIRC.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (AkOaV)

306 is Kari seriously banned?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (TLX//)

307 296 260 I thought the Smut-Hauling bill had to do with transporting pornography across state lines.

I thought it had to do with cheesy puns.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:18 AM (hTPJO)

Maybe cheesy pornographic puns?

Posted by: Nostradomuscelli at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

308 I find myself at every debate, fascinated by Donands Hair. Is it a combover, a combforward? A hybrid mix?

Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?

I think - and yes I have also been bizarrely fascinated by this - that it's a comb-forward with a back flip. I think it starts on the middle of his head and that he's basically bald on top.

I'm pretty sure that it takes a lot of work to be coerced into shape and on the days when he's in a fuck it mood he puts on the baseball cap.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (1xUj/)

309 So here We go again..... I love/hate Cruz. I love hate/ Trump.... If You don't agree with me you're an ass....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (/dSsq)

310

v*raises hand*

Posted by: Smut at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (1xUj/)

The word "smut" would be the medium tense dangling participle. Care should be exercised when using it in a sentence, particularly in the presence of children.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (LUgeY)

311 Besides, I'm not Virginian by birth nor did I grow up here."

Well, you're here, so you've got that going for you. Those of us blessed with Virginia ancestry, however...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (C9pBZ)

312 "If the question is who is the best person to go all Godzilla over everything since elections do not seem to change public policy, it's Trump."

So, if he doesn't go godzilla, will you admit error?

Sure. Will you amit yours if Cruz gets it and is neutered by the GOPe?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (hTPJO)

313 >>>> He said he has forgiven Trump (and Cruz) as his Christian faith requires him to. He is a better person than me, that's for sure.
Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:16 AM (a0IVu
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And me. Ah, I see. That's quite admirable. But, why not go for Cruz? They have their faith in common and it is driving force for both men. No one believes Trump is a religious man any more than Barry is. I thought Carson would decline endorsing anyone or else endorse Cruz. I'm surprised he went with Trump

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (2x3L+)

314 I find myself at every debate, fascinated by Donands Hair. Is it a combover, a combforward? A hybrid mix?

Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?

I think - and yes I have also been bizarrely fascinated by this

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It does have a way of memorizing you (well me).

What is it?

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (gmeXX)

315 33 Why is Trump ahead of Cruz?

When the moment came Cruz hesitated and Trump asked the gal for a date.

That's why.
Posted by: eman at March 11, 2016 10:24 AM (MQEz6)

How do you figure? Trump didn't run for president until he was in is 60s. Cruz is in his forties. No one thought he could beat David Dewhurst for the senate. Dewhurst had never been beat. Whenever he threw his hat into any ring, others would drop out. Even Cruz's friends thought it was crazy to even try. I think one of the things the GOPes don't like about him is his audacity.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 11:22 AM (ozZau)

316 I think - and yes I have also been bizarrely fascinated by this - that it's a comb-forward with a back flip. I think it starts on the middle of his head and that he's basically bald on top.

I'm pretty sure that it takes a lot of work to be coerced into shape and on the days when he's in a fuck it mood he puts on the baseball cap.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (1xUj/)

Yes. Gawker or someone definitively proved (to me at least) that it's essentially a "double combover".

So the hair comes from the back and is combed forward. then he combs hair from the side OVER the combed-forward hair.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:22 AM (AkOaV)

317 So, if I support Cruz I'm a bible thumpin, cousin humpin, Jesus freak, clod kickin hillbilly.

If I support Trump I'm an ignorant, mouth breathing rube who is too stupid to know I'm being conned.

That about right?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 11, 2016 11:22 AM (kTF2Z)

318 Posted by: doug at March 11, 2016 11:17 AM (04RUy)

Okay, who let Amish back in?

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at March 11, 2016 11:22 AM (mf5HN)

319 Did I say it caused the Great Depression? No I did not. But they sure as hell did not help.

It was terrible protectionist policy that the vast majority of
economists condemned as stupid. Could be why they were all repealed and
we enjoyed a period of unmatched economic expansion.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 11, 2016 11:15 AM (/tuJf)

The unmatched economic expansion was a result of the US being the only developed country whose industrial base hadn't been bombed to pieces in WWII. Smoot-Hawley was a rather insignificant piece of trade legislation that affected only a portion of our trade and only modestly (.3 percent GDP) affected our trade. It did not result in a trade war of retaliatory actions.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (nFdGS)

320 Yes. Gawker or someone definitively proved (to me at least) that it's essentially a "double combover".

So the hair comes from the back and is combed forward. then he combs hair from the side OVER the combed-forward hair.

So why didn't He get plugs like "plugs" Biden?

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (/dSsq)

321 I don't know if R's or D's voting will be more depressed, but total votes will be down nationwide, because unlike us junkies, average Americans don't feel a need to vote for a person they don't like.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:11 AM

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Except Republican primary voting has been way up over 2008 and 2012. Sounds like enthusiasm.

By the summer the anti Trumpers on the right will figure out that rallying behind Trump keeps Frank and Claire Underwood out of the White House (and if you've seen the last few frames of the latest season I think the producers have connected the Underwoods and the Clintons). There will be enough principled conservatives (the establishment surely prefers Clinton) to return to the fold to give Trump the victory (while holding their noses).

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (PvCxa)

322 I had wanted to talk about how ridiculous it is that in Pennsylvania our Dem Governor is literally holding our kids' hostage via blocking schools from accessing state education revenues as part of a giant hissy fit (he wants to raise all our taxes). We're 2/3 thru the year with no materials, lots of schools are BK, having to fire people, close, etc.

And yet - and yet! - it is never mentioned on the news. Imagine that.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (TLX//)

323 >>As Ted Cruz pointed out last night, there's no there there.<<

Devil's advocate.

Remind me- how long has Cruz been a senator and what precisely are his alleged bona fides? Is his "there" that he's been relatively consistent over his lifetime with his positions? Does that make others who have not been disingenuous and therefore any epiphany is a fraud? What is it specifically that Cruz can actually accomplish with the Congress who is likely to be seated after the next general? If a president Cruz doesn't get his way will we be treated to more Dr. Seuss, because, you know, he "knows how to handle Washington"? I mean, I'm actually chortling as I write this.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (O0lVq)

324 314 I find myself at every debate, fascinated by Donands Hair. Is it a combover, a combforward? A hybrid mix?

Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?

I think - and yes I have also been bizarrely fascinated by this

---------------

It does have a way of memorizing you (well me).

What is it?
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (gmeXX)

Oldest stepson is convinced that The Donald has incredibly long back hair that he just combs over. I'm not entirely unconvinced.

Posted by: Nostradomuscelli at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (RD7QR)

325 here's daily mail with a trump hair write up from '08:

http://tinyurl.com/4ppxff

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (AkOaV)

326 We're going to wish we ran another Mormon when people get a look at a Pentocostal service where speaking in tongues is a pretty regular thing.

Fix: Announce that at one of these services, they all started saying "Goddamm Amerikkka."
Posted by: Blue Hen

I agree, but if we're going to say Rev Wright is a legitimate issue because he was Obama's Pastor, how do we say with a straight face Ted Cruz's Pastor Father and what he's said and does is also not a legitimate issue?

The idea that God spoke to Heidi Cruz and told Cruz's father he's the annointed one, etc, don't act like that's just routine "Church stuff" that all Christians believe in.

It would be a MUCH bigger issue for voters than Trump University for voters.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (W1GMT)

327 47 Setting all the nonsense aside, perhaps someone could actually explain to me where Ted Cruz captures 270 in the genral to win the presidency. That is the ultimate question is it not?

Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and tell me where and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into the race to carry states Mitt Romney did not.

There is no debating many of Cruz's superior qualities over those of Trump. However, until someone can give me a logical path to the presidency for Ted Cruz, I will continue to have my doubts.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (WnCSK)

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I've been asking for two days now. They won't answer. Other than, it's going to be a David Brat like victory in VA and he's tied with Hilary in the polls.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (LXJ1e)

328
is Kari seriously banned?

There was a post that said 'Remember me.' that wasn't there on the next refresh.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (oVJmc)

329 "Beasts ferocious with hunger will cross the River.
The greater part of the battlefield will be against manners.
Into a house of white will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Germany answersnothing."

Posted by: Nostradamus at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (bpn7O)

330 I can't see Carson supporters moving to Trump. Every one I know , to a person, despises Trump more than any other GOP candidate.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (Wckf4)

331 313, I'm surprised he went with Trump

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (2x3L+)
He said he spent a lot of time in prayer about it and had people whom he had not talked to in ages reach out to him during his decision making process. But (to me at least) he sounded sincere in believing this is what God wanted him to do.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (a0IVu)

332 Ace... I saw the interview with CNN [Carson] did yesterday... he said he would be watching the debates tonight to see if Trump could be "presidential". He did not say, however, that he was endorsing him when given the chance.

We will see tomorrow if "two sources familiar with his thinking" are right.

It could just as easily be Trump's campaign trying to box Carson in.
Wrong again, redbanzai.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (WOyz5)

333 GoK banned? Needing a cool-off, but that may be harsh.

Which reminds me, I haven't seen his usual foil, redbanzai, today either...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (9krrF)

334 It's going to be a moment of reckoning for the newly minted trolls.
Posted by: Marcus T

So anyone who disagrees with Trumpmania is a troll? I have been here for years as have a lot of the horde - we agree, we disagree. You continually label anyone who dares to criticize your candidate as a 'newly minted troll' ? Your posts continue to disparage anyone that doesn't fall in line with your quest.....the next time you want to call someone a troll, look in the mirror.

Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (oiNtH)

335 I've been asking for two days now. They won't answer.

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Its been answered. You just dismiss it because ... well you just dismiss it.

CO, FL, OH, Iowa

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (gmeXX)

336 CBD ftw.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:12 AM (C9pBZ)

I take back most of what I have said about you.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (Zu3d9)

337 What is it?
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (gmeXX)

Head weasel.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (mf5HN)

338 I was canvassing for GOP signatures a couple of nights ago and I asked people who they are supporting. The two Trump supporters I met said, "he tells it like it is" and "he's not a politician, he'll straighten things out." That's about the depth of their thoughts on the topic.

They care not a whit about public policy, and the only "good governance" they want is for the machinery to work right and be relatively uncorrupt.

I honestly think this is just tribal. They speak in broad generalities themselves and drop their "g"s at the end of sentences. Donald's speaking style resonates with them because it's their own.

Some of their anger is apparently directed at fancy-pants candidates who went to Princeton and speak substantively and in complete sentences.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (laMCB)

339 There are plenty of economists who agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:10 AM (Zu3d9)

ahh, the old most-economists-agree-with-me gambit.

Ummm...you can find fallacies where you will, but it's not mistaken that many economists think Smoot-Hawley worsened and lengthened the Depression.

And Milton Friedman was not just about monetary policy, he was quite the free trade advocate.

When people around here had nothing in common but some notion of conservatism, Friedman and WF Buckley were icons.

Now that we've gone nationalist/populist there's no substance other than "I love/loathe that guy".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (1xUj/)

340 Trump is going to need all of his deal-making skills to get senate approval to appointing Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court.

And that's just the republicans.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (Zs4uk)

341 239
I find myself at every debate, fascinated by Donands Hair. Is it a combover, a combforward? A hybrid mix?

Where does it attach to his skull? What would he look like if someone poured a bucket of water over his head?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 11, 2016 11:09 AM

~~~

Read an article a couple of years ago about his hair. (Can't find it, sadly.)

Anyway, they had a close-up picture of the top of his head and you could see the hair all criss-crossed. Keeping in mind that what hair Donald does have is of extraordinary length, here is how he does it:

First he does the usual, familiar comb-over. Then he combs a long area from way down the back of his head to the top and front. He then flips the end of that back over itself in the front. The long hair on the sides of his head is combed all the way to nearly the center of the back of his head in order to hide the part he made when combing the hair from the back of his head to the front.

Does that make sense?

I would really like to see what Donald's hair looks like in the shower. I image long, scraggly tails hanging from various areas of his head, kinda like what a kid would do to his little sister's Barbie doll.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (E6RIJ)

342 290 It's going to be interesting around here once Trump becomes the candidate. It's going to be a moment of reckoning for the newly minted trolls.
***************************************************

In your scenario, the actual moment of reckoning will be the night of November 8, when the election is called for Hillary by all the networks the second the Pacific time zone states' polls close. "GOPe Dolshtoss!"

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (sQQU0)

343 236 "it seems even the Evangelicals are uncomfortable about aspects of Cruz's religiosity"

Agreed. I would probably check the exit poll box for 'evangelic/born again,' but I find the Glenn Beck, CBN, megachurch people creepy.

Posted by: @darkecologist at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (UBKTV)

344 I am so old, I have experienced pre-NAFTA America and funny enough, I dont recall it being an economic wasteland, which supposedly is what you get without free trade deals, according to folks like Frequent Podcast Guest Scott Lincicome and his CATO cronies.

I'm so old, I can remember my dad working, (non college degree), with mom staying home and raising us. Way pre-NAFTA. USA seemed to chug along just fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (hTPJO)

345 I can get out the moron vote in Ohio and Michigan. That stiff Cuban guy from Canada can't connect with all the morons like only I can. I'm going to be sooo much fun. Those morons won't know what hit 'em. And Bill Clinton thought he was so smart getting me to run. HaHaHaHa

Posted by: Der Fuhrer at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (uNpJu)

346 So why didn't He get plugs like "plugs" Biden?
Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (/dSsq)

apparently he did but the surgery went wrong or his body reacted poorly to the transplants or something.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (AkOaV)

347 #24 "England became a great economic power under a system of managed trade. "

This is not right. Great Britain got rid of most tariffs (with no reciprocal agreements) in the mid 1800's. They didn't reimpose them until the 1930's. (How'd that work out?).

Posted by: Raul Johnson at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (MiBr0)

348 The article proves there are two Donald Trumps: the one who knows there are two Donald Trumps and the one who doesn't.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (2tLEz)

349 337 What is it?
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (gmeXX)

Head weasel.

I think He has transmitters in there to the Mother ship...

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (/dSsq)

350 If someone got banned, it was probably from the ONT. Maet has been adamant about not bringing Trump vs. Cruz into the nightly, drink-tippling fun.

He usually gives a warning before bringing the banhammer.

...just a guess.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (OQ9R7)

351 Make America Great Again: ...I've been asking for two days now. They won't answer....

You keep saying that. I'm finally moved to reply...

Might just be you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - snerk at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (l/Pix)

352 Whatever you pick it means more Americans will be poorer and have a lower standard of living.

No, it means that some Americans will have jobs that they don't have now, and will be incrementally better off for it, and some Americans will have incrementally less disposable income.

I think you're letting your rage get the better of you.

...and I think your irrational hatred of Trump is getting the better of you. Trump doesn't make people crazy, though it seems that way. Trump reveals that apparently normal people are crazy, and that makes them even more crazy.

The US has a mixed economy with too many regulations. Yes, I know that those of you who hate Trump just went into a rabid frenzy of biting everything in sight because regulating trade is more regulation.

If you are going to have free trade, you have to remove the barriers that interfere with new start up businesses. You have to remove regulations that interfere with established businesses expanding.

Having 'free trade', especially something negotiated by someone with the political ideology of Barack Obama is the worst kind of central planning of the national economy.

If you want free trade, you have to get rid of all the environmental regulations on oil and gas, coal, electrical power generation, ranching, lumber, mining, and industrial manufacturing, and other development projects like housing (looking at you San Francisco, and New York).

If you want free trade, you have to deregulate everything or no one will have a job, and everyone will be feudal serfs dependent on Obama's whim de jure.

Hate Trump all you want, but free trade by itself won't solve the problem.

Obama, and his poisonous ideology is the problem.

Posted by: Adelsun Whitely at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (xCLSs)

353
GoK is banned? Seriously? He was passionate but I don't remember him being offensive or derogatory.
Posted by: IC

4 emphasis.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (kdS6q)

354 Wouldn't increased demand for labor drive wages up, offsetting the increased cost of production?

Posted by: MJ at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (iIPS1)

355 And this is the eternal problem with US politics: The flashy guy with all the charisma can campaign well and get votes -- but can't do the actual job. (See Obama)

The smart nerd who actually knows what to do and how to do it has no personality and can't win a campaign. (Cruz)

It's very, very rare when you have someone with both qualities.

We need another Reagan.

At least with Trump I do get the sense that under all the bluster, he really does "know what he doesn't know" -- and knows how to put the right people who DO know in the right jobs. Any effective CEO or administrator worth his salt is good at delegating this way.

Am I right? I hope so. We'll see.....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (ureJ1)

356 I'm beyond rage, but even rage is better than counting angels on the head of a pin - like Libertarians are wont to do.

This is cold, unmovable, utter determination to Burn Down GOP Inc, and devil take the hindmost.

Posted by: Born Free at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (h+7di)

357 Anyone think Jeb will endorse Trump?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (WnCSK)

358 >>Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (oiNtH)
<<

Say it with me- he's not currently my candidate.

I think once he becomes the nominee, if you don't support him, you're working against the elected candidate. That makes you something, but certainly not a Republican Party member.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (O0lVq)

359 Except Republican primary voting has been way up over 2008 and 2012. Sounds like enthusiasm.
East Bay Jay-

Except that Dem turnout in most of those state, which were majority open primary states, is down by about the same real numbers as the R's are up.
A rational case could be made that crossover is the reason for the "enthusiasm". Whether that is real crossover, or monkey-wrenching has yet to be determined.

And, as noted above, primary voters are much more engaged than the general voters are, so general numbers could be down regardless of current enthusiasm.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (kKHcp)

360 333 GoK banned? Needing a cool-off, but that may be harsh.

Which reminds me, I haven't seen his usual foil, redbanzai, today either...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:24 AM (9krrF)

I'm thinking it was just a general isp ban. My home and work ones are but my cell phone isn't. And I've seen Phone or Kari this am.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (hTPJO)

361 I agree, but
Posted by: Belvita

Bullshit.

This country just voted for a clown who sat there and drank it all in. And now we're supposed to stampede because the MFM tells us to?

This is why we lose.

Alternate fix: Tell the assholes that these people were facing Mecca when they spoke in tongues.

FTNQ

(Fuck Them; Next Question)

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (326rv)

362 341, I would really like to see what Donald's hair looks
like in the shower. I image long, scraggly tails hanging from various
areas of his head, kinda like what a kid would do to his little sister's
Barbie doll.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (E6RIJ)
Sounds horribly unattractive..but thanks for making me laugh!

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (a0IVu)

363 I see we all googled the same Nostradamus stuff.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (bpn7O)

364 Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:25 AM (1xUj/)

oh, I'm a big Friedman fan, and I don't disagree with "protectionism" can have negative impacts on our ability to export.

And, also, I voted for Cruz not Trump.

I was just making a joke about the "most economists agree" thing that cbd said.

Carry on.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (AkOaV)

365 It did not result in a trade war of retaliatory actions."

Yet MF twice referenced "Beggar thy neighbor policies over a decade" in the said item.

Fascinating, no?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (C9pBZ)

366 From the nouveau York

The overcomb bursts forth

Tariffs, vodka, really fabulous steaks.

The Bohemian trophy measures the windows.

Posted by: Nostradomuscelli at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (RD7QR)

367 >>>>>> I can't see Carson supporters moving to Trump. Every one I know , to a person, despises Trump more than any other GOP candidate.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 11, 2016 11:23 Am
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Same here. Every Carson supporter I know are super religious people who admire him and want a good, moral man to hold the office. They all think Trump is a bad, immoral man.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (2x3L+)

368 I don't get the Drudge thing today. What did Ted do to rile Matt up?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (LA7Cm)

One of the Cruzbots spammed his online post-debate poll with fake robo-votes for St. Tedward the Bushite Globalist.

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/708168747324825601

Posted by: drgreatcham at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (1RgUP)

369 I think the "Smoot-Hawley caused the Depression" is about as factual as the "FDR's New Deal got the US out of the Great Depression."

The idea that we never would have had a severe economic downturn had a simple tariff law never been passed is over the top.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (W1GMT)

370 >>Head weasel.

Yes, that's what I'm running for. I want to be the head weasel.

Posted by: The Donald at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (c7vUv)

371 Am I right? I hope so. We'll see.....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (ureJ1)

No...no you're not. "Hope" is not a very good plan for anything beyond buying a lottery ticket.

Posted by: Reality...Deal With It at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (aRUb8)

372

hello rons

people still shouty

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (zOTsN)

373 Trump will lose Florida in the general, but the Cuban-Canadian-American hybrid Cruz will win it? Even though Cruz is pulling out of Florida because he can't make a case to Floridians to vote for him.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (LXJ1e)

374 Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (hTPJO)

The thing is, before NAFTA and all the other alphabet soup deals, we had free trade, but it was driven by that crazy, chaotic, anachronistic thing called....The Market.

Not by political expedience.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (Zu3d9)

375 They didn't reimpose them until the 1930's. (How'd that work out?).
Posted by: Raul Johnson at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (MiBr0)

not good. the entire country got bombed to shit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (AkOaV)

376 I'm pretty sure that it takes a lot of work to be coerced into shape and on the days when he's in a fuck it mood he puts on the baseball cap.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:20 AM (1xUj/)

Years ago Michelle Malkin said never trust a man who has prettier hair than his wife. She was referring to John Edwards and Senator John Ensign, and she was right, at least about those guys.

Trump's hair isn't pretty but I think the theory applies to him anyway because he spends a lot of time and product on it and it's all about the vanity.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (ozZau)

377 USA seemed to chug along just fine."

Who you gonna believe, our betters or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (C9pBZ)

378 369 I think the "Smoot-Hawley caused the Depression" is about as factual as the "FDR's New Deal got the US out of the Great Depression."

The idea that we never would have had a severe economic downturn had a simple tariff law never been passed is over the top.
Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (W1GMT)

---------------

It magic bullet thinking.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (LXJ1e)

379 people still shouty

yeah but don't worry Thunder it's healthy!

let it out screen people, let it out

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (TLX//)

380 Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:26 AM (hTPJO)

Yeah.... I keep looking at history....

If total Free trade were so great... if it was THE ANSWER to the economy... then why does it seem that the more Free Trade we get, the worse our economy actually is?

Problem is its not Free Trade in a vacuum... and you can't export 1/2 TRILLION dollars in wealth every year and have an expanding economy.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (RK8AH)

381 282 260 I thought the Smut-Hauling bill had to do with transporting pornography across state lines.

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And once we get rid of the state lines, we'll have competition and the price of smut will fall dramatically. We'll be making our own yuge amounts of smut again instead of importing it from Japan.

Posted by: Donald J Trump at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (PNcou)

382 Trump is the best click bait ever. He is good for Drudges business

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (zOTsN)

383 Trump will lose Florida in the general, but the
Cuban-Canadian-American hybrid Cruz will win it? Even though Cruz is
pulling out of Florida because he can't make a case to Floridians to
vote for him.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (LXJ1e)
Don't mention facts to Cruzbots, it's like garlic to vampires.

Posted by: drgreatcham at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (1RgUP)

384 Cruz is utterly strange and knows not who he is. He is surely book smart and verbally facile, and he is surely his father's palimpsest, and he is surely a pure litigator that thinks winning arguments is the same as winning in reality, and that has only ever won arguments, and who surely has an utterly annoying voice, and his 'victory' filibuster was a lonely fiasco, with no support from anyone... Think about that. At least Rubio kind of blew up Obamacare...

Cruz destroyed my faith in him (as did Rubio, Jeb!, Fiorina, Kasich, et al, all except Carson) when he went reflexively PC and yelled that intolerance of muslims will not be tolerated. What a maroon. On Cruz' watch, and on Perry's and Abbott's watch, they have stood by with their thumb up their nether end while Irving and Amarillo became majority muslim. While Fredericksburg is now at least a quarter muslim, while Houston now has around a quarter of a million muslims living in enclaves, and muttering about sharia. And not one word from Ted or Rick or Gregg.

And the State Department rolls on, resettling tens of thousands of muslims a month under the UN refugee resettlement program. Estimated to be ~4 million in the last 6 years, but no one knows. Some Amarilloans that moved to Idaho freaked out when their little mountain village in Idaho received 2 dozen muslim families, which is a number sufficient to dislocate their very small community. Wake up!

That is why the idea of vetting people on temperament and character, and hoping for the best, may in fact be the most rational and effective option for us. Policy? Not so much.

Posted by: Houston-Nica at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (YreNt)

385 >>Same here. Every Carson supporter I know are super
religious people who admire him and want a good, moral man to hold the
office. They all think Trump is a bad, immoral man.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (2x3L+)
<<

I dunno. I have a lot of family who were Carson supporters right until the end. Right now they leaning Cruz but mulling over Trump because they truly believe he can win. Oh yeah, and they're not that judgmental.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (O0lVq)

386 Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (W1GMT)

Try to keep up.

Nobody said that Smoot-Hawley caused the depression.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (Zu3d9)

387 Urge to vote for Donald Trump rising...rising...

Posted by: Homer J Simpson at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (v8mM1)

388 Yes, that's what I'm running for. I want to be the head weasel.

Posted by: The Donald at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (c7vUv)

Donny...Donny. The weasel is ON your head. For you to be the "Headweasle" you would have to curl up on IT.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (aRUb8)

389 Trump supporters...

"They care not a whit about public policy..."

It could be that they believe that some of the public policy problems have simple answers if your only concern is the general welfare of the country.

What gets things complicated is when you start crafting public policy for your own reasons and need to make them appear to be in the public's best interest. For that, you need rooms full of wingtips and briefcases.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (Zs4uk)

390 people still shouty
Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (zOTsN)

yep.

This is getting to be as much fun as rubbing one out using mag wheel polish.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (kKHcp)

391
Trump will lose Florida in the general, but the Cuban-Canadian-American hybrid Cruz will win it? Even though Cruz is pulling out of Florida because he can't make a case to Floridians to vote for him.
Posted by: Make America Great Again

Distant third in the state primary is the new harbinger of November victory.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (kdS6q)

392 I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (0eidE)

393 Trump's hair isn't pretty but I think the theory applies to him anyway because he spends a lot of time and product on it and it's all about the vanity.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (ozZau)

The theory only holds, if you have not seen Trump's current Wife....

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (RK8AH)

394 361

Obama had to put Rev Wright in hiding.
Will Cruz do the same about his own Dad?

Cruz isn't going to be the nominee, but a Pentecostal really is every bad stereotype you can imagine and it WILL turn off voters.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (W1GMT)

395 Remember how ACE yesterday made up his mind about Trump re the Fields "assault"?

Well, it was all total BULLSHIT and Breitbart is now admitting they were WRONG.

So, ACE decides who to back on BULLSHIT STORIES... brilliant asshole.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified/

Posted by: PhilipJames at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (Pbe3i)

396 The idea that we never would have had a severe economic downturn had a simple tariff law never been passed is over the top."

As are the concepts that SH was "simple" and that it had no impact on TGD.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (C9pBZ)

397 I just watched that feel good story one from Mis Hums' dump

really lots o pollen today. and dust. and well everything ever. and someone smeared my screen with some filmy substance and my eyes. nose too

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (zOTsN)

398 Oldest stepson is convinced that The Donald has incredibly long back hair that he just combs over. I'm not entirely unconvinced.
Posted by: Nostradomuscelli

OK, that was my first literal laugh out loud moment of the day.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (1xUj/)

399 What is it?
Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 11:21 AM (gmeXX)

It is the Golden Scalp Weasel, the source of his power. The one who wears it is King of the Republican Death-Lands.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (hLRSq)

400 @384

Surely!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (Wckf4)

401 Fucking Breitbart...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (WnCSK)

402 Donald,

Please answer a couple of questions. And realize you will be grilled as hard on the substance of your answers as you would grill the guy running one of your casinos who was making budget projections.

Will you really build the wall immediately? Provide some details to those of us who have heard it all before and are forgivably skeptical. And if so, how do you truly propose to make Mexico pay? If they don't pay, who will and with what?

You hear the legendary stories about how The Donald strikes fear into employees because of how deeply he can drill down into details of their operation.

Now, Mr. Trump, you are the one on the hot seat. If one of your employees at a hotel that had problems kept repeating without specifics, "We are going to do great, fantastic things to turn this place around", I shudder to think of the mincemeat you would turn them into.

You took a hard line with your early immigration stance and now you seem to be backing off. You detest the potential apprentices on your reality show when they waffle at all and you fire them summarily. What is YOUR final position that voters can take to the bank and know you will not back off an inch from?

Personally, I have always kind of liked Trump. His family seems great, and that is usually a huge indicator. But this is the Presidency here, not his family empire. I cannot get a handle on what is real, what is hype, and what his baseline convictions are.

Posted by: RM at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (U3LtS)

403 392 I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

He certainly got attention for doing so.... Not sure if a Cruz endorsement would have gotten as much....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (/dSsq)

404 393
Trump's hair isn't pretty but I think the theory applies to him anyway
because he spends a lot of time and product on it and it's all about the
vanity.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (ozZau)

He may spend a lot of time on it or perhaps just slap on some extra firm hair gel on it. It's an interesting combover though, as others have said, quite fascinating.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (a0IVu)

405 I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

Possibly. Then again, Ben's an odd duck.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (oVJmc)

406 Posted by: Houston-Nica at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (YreNt)
***************************************************
People from Texas know none of that is actually true. You can want to curb immigration without making crazypants statements.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (sQQU0)

407 Try to keep up.

Nobody said that Smoot-Hawley caused the depression.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Uh, Ted Cruz did last night.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:34 AM (W1GMT)

408 Devil's advocate.

Remind me- how long has Cruz been a senator and what precisely are his alleged bona fides? Is his "there" that he's been relatively consistent over his lifetime with his positions? Does that make others who have not been disingenuous and therefore any epiphany is a fraud? What is it specifically that Cruz can actually accomplish with the Congress who is likely to be seated after the next general? If a president Cruz doesn't get his way will we be treated to more Dr. Seuss, because, you know, he "knows how to handle Washington"? I mean, I'm actually chortling as I write this.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (O0lVq)

----------------------

Cruz is qualified to be Solicitor General. That's it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:35 AM (LXJ1e)

409 It did not result in a trade war of retaliatory actions."

Yet MF twice referenced "Beggar thy neighbor policies over a decade" in the said item.

Fascinating, no?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (C9pBZ)

During the Great Depression the State Department reported the following on reactions to S-H:
"With the exceptions of discriminations in France, the extent of discrimination against American commerce is very slight...By far the largest number of countries do not discriminate against the commerce of the United States in any way."

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:35 AM (nFdGS)

410 Trump is the best click bait ever. He is good for Ace's business"

There, FIFY

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:35 AM (C9pBZ)

411 Oldest stepson is convinced that The Donald has incredibly long back hair that he just combs over. I'm not entirely unconvinced.
Posted by: Nostradomuscelli

Bill Murray's character from King Pin.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:35 AM (kKHcp)

412 >>Cruz isn't going to be the nominee, but a Pentecostal really is every bad stereotype you can imagine and it WILL turn off voters.
Posted by: Belvita

You seem concerned.

Posted by: Aviator at March 11, 2016 11:36 AM (c7vUv)

413
The article proves there are two Donald Trumps

Mirror universe Trump has a goatee.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 11, 2016 11:36 AM (FkBIv)

414 There is a new video on twitter showing absolutely Field being assaulted!!11!!!

But upon viewing the video, it shows nothing. She has now filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski. I hope she has the good sense not to show up at any more Trump events but she will.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 11:36 AM (iQIUe)

415 Posted by: PhilipJames at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (Pbe3i)

Settle down, cupcake.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 11, 2016 11:36 AM (Wckf4)

416
Well, it was all total BULLSHIT and Breitbart is now admitting they were WRONG.

Yes, they appear to be admitting that the WaPo reporter was wrong in his identification.

24-rule, people.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (oVJmc)

417 363 I see we all googled the same Nostradamus stuff.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 11:28 AM (bpn7O)

He had a certain meter that he used with blank verse. (Or maybe it rhymed in the French of his time.) Plus roughly the same set of themes and images all the time. Makes it easy to parody.

Posted by: Nostradomuscelli at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (RD7QR)

418 341, I would really like to see what Donald's hair looks
like in the shower. I image long, scraggly tails hanging from various
areas of his head, kinda like what a kid would do to his little sister's
Barbie doll.

''''''
Someone on twitter said that when his hair blows around he looks like a troll doll, and he DOES.

BTW, even though I'm sitting here ragging on his appearance, I don't vote on appearance. if he had any policies I agreed with or if he showed good character I would vote for him regardless of his freakish hair and fingers.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (ozZau)

419 Dang, I take a day off, sleep in a little, and come in 400 comments late, only to find the place has gone batshit crazy.
Well done hoard. I'm so proud.
I'll bring myself up to speed in 3...2...

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (aQQbl)

420 Posted by: PhilipJames at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (Pbe3i)

haha.

Not ace's fault, but that is kind of funny.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (AkOaV)

421 During the Great Depression the State Department reported the following on reactions to S-H:"

Bill's book turned out to be a bit of a stinker. Nice to see now that you've dropped MF as support for your "point" - as to whatever that is.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (C9pBZ)

422 >>> Will you tell me how Drumpf wins the General Election with 35% of the Republican base? I'm not buying the democrats are switching over either. Democrats are resorting to Operation Chaos to get this bull shit artist into the General.

That is my worry too.

http://liberallogic101.com/?p=45708

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (hvf9s)

423 If you are going to have free trade, you have to remove the barriers that interfere with new start up businesses. You have to remove regulations that interfere with established businesses expanding.

This.

You can have free trade, or you can have a heavily-regulated economy. You can't have both.

You can have open borders, or you can have a welfare state. Again, you can't have both.

Oh, you can try, but it never works out well. For Americans, anyway.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (9krrF)

424 "Beggar thy neighbor policies over a decade"

What do you think the US Federal Reserve policy of zero interest rates is doing to the global economy when it floods the globe with worth less paper money?

And Obama has the audacity to accuse China of currency manipulation.

Posted by: Adelsun Whitely at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (xCLSs)

425 Wow that Drudge headline is something else.... I know He's in the tank for Trump, but I can't figure out why He hates Cruz so much....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (/dSsq)

426 " I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

I would suspect the GOPe is going to begin coalesing around Trump and supporting him if they believe his nomination is imminent.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (WnCSK)

427 Story goes from "breitbart reporter roughed up by Trump campaign manager" to "reporter pushed back by security guard (likely secret service) for getting too close to candidate."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (AkOaV)

428 " Cruz is pulling out of Florida"

Did I miss something?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (LA7Cm)

429 >>>> I dunno. I have a lot of family who were Carson supporters right until the end. Right now they leaning Cruz but mulling over Trump because they truly believe he can win. Oh yeah, and they're not that judgmental.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:31 AM (O0lVq)
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That is definitely a factor. I saw a piece that polled voters that identify themselves as evangelicals to ask why they were voting for Trump. The number one cited reason was they were tired of losing and want someone who has a chance of winning and didn't believe Cruz could

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (2x3L+)

430 Head weasel.

scalp weasel or skull ferret
also Grand Poobah despoiler of hair-care product.

Posted by: DaveA at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (DL2i+)

431 There is a new video on twitter showing absolutely Field being assaulted!!11!!!

But upon viewing the video, it shows nothing. She has now filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski. I hope she has the good sense not to show up at any more Trump events but she will.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! a

you are kidding. there is a video and it shows nothing?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (zOTsN)

432 ...and we're off to the races. The love/hate Trump and love/hate Cruz crowd who love to snip at each other, call each other names and basically makes asses of themselves. I find myself looking forward to the weekend and the book, guns, pet threads.

Posted by: jewells45 at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (l/N7H)

433 That is definitely a factor. I saw a piece that polled voters that identify themselves as evangelicals to ask why they were voting for Trump. The number one cited reason was they were tired of losing and want someone who has a chance of winning and didn't believe Cruz could

That sounds about right.... I'm not sure either of them can win...

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (/dSsq)

434 I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

Cruz burned his bridges with Carson by announcing he had quit on the day of the Iowa caucus.

Funny how none of the other campaign had that "mix up".

So this is payback.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (W1GMT)

435 BTW, here's what State says about SH now:

But while the tariff might not have caused the Depression, it certainly did not make it any better. It provoked a storm of foreign retaliatory measures

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (C9pBZ)

436

conservative treehouse was reporting last night that Cruz met with GOPe strategists and is pulling out of FL

I have no idea if that is true

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:40 AM (zOTsN)

437 "There is a new video on twitter showing absolutely Field being assaulted!!11!!! "

Go to Breitbart directly and read the story...they now do not believe it was Lewandowski but a security official...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:40 AM (WnCSK)

438 Oh good! I've found my mag wheel polish. BBL

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2016 11:40 AM (kKHcp)

439 425
Wow that Drudge headline is something else.... I know He's in the tank
for Trump, but I can't figure out why He hates Cruz so much....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (/dSsq)
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Cruzbots spammed his post-debate poll last night, so Drudge has decided to go nuclear on Count Tedula.
Good for him.

Posted by: drgreatcham at March 11, 2016 11:40 AM (1RgUP)

440 436
conservative treehouse was reporting last night that Cruz met with GOPe strategists and is pulling out of FL

I have no idea if that is true
Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:40 AM (zOTsN)
****************************************************

Conservative Treehouse is Drudge is Breitbart.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (sQQU0)

441 you are kidding. there is a video and it shows nothing?
Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (zOTsN)

breitbart walked back the story. The campaign director was on the other side of trump and could not have possibly been close enough to the reporter to grab her.

Despite 6 cameras on trump, none show the woman being touched, although there is a security guy (possibly secret service) near her around the time she claims to have been grabbed (so he may have pushed her back, i suppose, although again -- video does not show that.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (AkOaV)

442 Embrace. The suck.

Posted by: MM at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (g9+0T)

443 Still prefer Cruz by a wide margin.

That said, who a President appoints matters more than his own policy formulations. Reagan was an exception, he could write a speech, formulate a policy, articulate a political philosophy, inspire, lead and govern.

Trump is not Reagan. Obviously. But if he puts good people into positions of power and supports them, the Republic will survive. A little while longer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (q+YDg)

444 "conservative treehouse was reporting last night that Cruz met with GOPe strategists and is pulling out of FL

I have no idea if that is true"

Another rumor is that Ryan and Jeb met with Trump in Doral last night along with Kasich people....

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (WnCSK)

445 People say electing Trump will destroy the GOPe.

Still not sure how that's anything other than wish casting.

Is Trump going to just start campaigning for people he thinks are tried and true conservatives?

He can't fire anyone unless they are in his cabinet.

Other than "screw you", we're hiring Trump, it's not going to do anything to the GOPe. They still represent the other branches of congress.

So I don't get when people keep saying Trump is SMOD and will destroy the GOPe. Sure, he might make some people wrinkle their noses at the commoner in the room, but I'm sure Trump will enjoy the parties.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (2PHKP)

446 I haven't watched a Trump rally in a while, is this raising your right arm and giving a pledge thing as creepy as people are making it out to be? There is a thing called optics Donald.

Also lol to the chip eating in the vid.

https://www.facebook.com/thisisinsider/videos/1522892214684838/?fref=nf

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (hvf9s)

447 395 Remember how ACE yesterday made up his mind about Trump re the Fields "assault"?

Well, it was all total BULLSHIT and Breitbart is now admitting they were WRONG.

So, ACE decides who to back on BULLSHIT STORIES... brilliant asshole.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified/
Posted by: PhilipJames at March 11, 2016 11:33 AM (Pbe3i)

-----------------

The Terris guy purposely "misidentified" the Lebowski guy. He was standing right there.

And looking at the pictures, Trump had passed the Field reporterette and she was reaching out to grab his shoulder. The security grabbed her forearm and pulled it down to keep her from touching him. That's why her forearm had the bruise and not her upper arm.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (LXJ1e)

448 Cruzbots spammed his post-debate poll last night, so Drudge has decided to go nuclear on Count Tedula.
Good for him.

Huh? I mean Trump "wins" every Drudge debate "poll" kind of like Ron Paul and His Paulians....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (/dSsq)

449
I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?
Posted by: Draki

It could be he thinks Trump is the better candidate, who is more likely to win the primary, and would make a decent President he could support.

No -- that can't be it. Must be something involving Space Lizards and Nazis from the Hollow Earth.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (kdS6q)

450 I find myself looking forward to the weekend and the book, guns, pet threads."

Same here. Weekdays are getting tiresome, what w/the tepid fume folk along with the daily HUUUGE threads.
When does football season start up again?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (C9pBZ)

451 "Cruzbots spammed his post-debate poll last night, "

You mean what Trump supporters do literally every time he posts a poll?

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (qHM3d)

452

well Trump said this morning he met with Ryan last night so that must be true

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (zOTsN)

453 I kind of suspect the reporter made the whole thing up, or greatly exaggerated it.

The bruises on her arm look like someone GRABBED her hard and pulled her.

Not pushed her away.

"pulling her" makes no sense in the context of Trumps entourage.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (AkOaV)

454 Anyone think Jeb will endorse Trump?

That would be the kiss of death that might actually kill Trump

Posted by: cool breeze at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (ckvus)

455 422 >>> Will you tell me how Drumpf wins the General Election with 35% of the Republican base? I'm not buying the democrats are switching over either. Democrats are resorting to Operation Chaos to get this bull shit artist into the General.

That is my worry too.

http://liberallogic101.com/?p=45708

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (hvf9s)

Lets see..... 29% of the electorate is democrat (nationally)...

42% are independent.

Non Repubs can vote in open Primaries...

Now, who is more likely to be giving Trump non Repub votes.... the 42%?,,, or would it be a conspiracy of Dems, who somehow all came together and started a conspiracy....

Posted by: Occam at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (RK8AH)

456 451
"Cruzbots spammed his post-debate poll last night, "

You mean what Trump supporters do literally every time he posts a poll?

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (qHM3d)

Yes, the nerve of someone to interrupt the poll spamming by Trump supporters. Ted must burn.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (2PHKP)

457 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:30 AM (AkOaV)

A doff of my cap to you sir!

Well done.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (Zu3d9)

458 >>I don't vote on appearance. if he had any policies I agreed with or if he showed good character I would vote for him regardless of his freakish hair and fingers.
Posted by: stace

Do you mean my freakishly long, ET-like fingers?

Posted by: The Donald at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (c7vUv)

459 The security grabbed her forearm and pulled it down to keep her from touching him. That's why her forearm had the bruise and not her upper arm.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (LXJ1e)

that could make sense, too. If her arm was raised, they would have been pulling it down.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (AkOaV)

460 Oh good! I've found my mag wheel polish. BBL"

I'll look for some steel wool as well. Would be just as productive...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (C9pBZ)

461 well the form of the destroyer has been chosen

lets see if Trump absorbs GOPe, or if GOPe absorbs Trump

I'm sanguine

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (zOTsN)

462 A doff of my cap to you sir!

Well done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (Zu3d9)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (AkOaV)

463 "well Trump said this morning he met with Ryan last night so that must be true"

I did not know that...so you confirmed that part is true. The part of Jeb Bush being there and considering possible endorsement I find puzzling...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (WnCSK)

464 At least with Trump I do get the sense that under all the bluster, he really does "know what he doesn't know" -- and knows how to put the right people who DO know in the right jobs. Any effective CEO or administrator worth his salt is good at delegating this way.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (ureJ1)

I hope you're right but that takes more faith than I have. Underneath the bluster, all I see is....bluster. And salesmanship. And no compass other than himself.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (laMCB)

465 You can have free trade, or you can have a heavily-regulated economy. You can't have both.

You can have open borders, or you can have a welfare state. Again, you can't have both.

You can long enough to get to the next election cycle.

see also: Iraq flypaper strategy and Iraq Democratic Freedom Model.
plus every %^* POS TFG does.

Posted by: DaveA at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (DL2i+)

466 You assert that Smoot-Hawley created or prolonged the Great Depression. Prove it.

---

What would be considered acceptable proof?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (PNcou)

467 People don't think Cruz can beat Hillary? That doesn't make much sense to me. The only one I see having trouble with that is Trump. He is as dis-likable as Hillary.

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (0eidE)

468 "That would be the kiss of death that might actually kill Trump"

Probably :-)

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (WnCSK)

469
Go to Breitbart directly and read the story...they now do not believe it was Lewandowski but a security official...
Posted by: Skeezix

"Bu -- bu -- bu -- we have a twanscwipt!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (kdS6q)

470 Just want to say that when I read these types of threads (not that i read it all), I'm so grateful for the feel good stories at the Friday morning news dump. Thanks, MisHum

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (w4NZ8)

471 When does football season start up again?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (C9pBZ)

Maybe we need a sharp elbows thread this weekend......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (Zu3d9)

472 I think the only fair conclusion at this point is that everybody is an asshole, from Trump to Cruz to Fields to all of them

myself included

lets drink

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (zOTsN)

473 142
129 I don't get the Drudge thing today. What did Ted do to rile Matt up?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 10:47 AM (LA7Cm)

Drudge = gay

Cruz = Evangelical

Evangelicals = Homosexuality is a sin, though we love the sinner.

Drudge = Fuck you.

We keep thinking Drudge is Our Guy, when in fact it's a lot more complicated than that.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 11, 2016 10:50 AM (RD7QR)

Does "loving the sinner" involve throwing people in jail for being gay?
Cruz was wanting to campaign in MS with Bryan Fischer (before he chickened out with a phony illness excuse), who, along with fellow Cruz supporter Kevin Swanson, makes the Westboro Baptist lunatics look like GLAAD.

Posted by: drgreatcham at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (1RgUP)

474 If there is a video showing nothing happened, why is Fields filing a criminal complaint against Lewandowski? There shouldn't be this much confusion over who grabbed her arm since there were a lot of people there

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (2x3L+)

475 Let's not jump all over Ace because Breitbart got a few details wrong.

If Trump had been there in his Nazi uniform, I'm certain he would have belted that woman just out of general meanness.

So essentially, the thrust of the article was correct.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (Zs4uk)

476 You mean what Trump supporters do literally every time he posts a poll?

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 11:42 AM (qHM3d)

It reeks of stormfront.

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (0eidE)

477 472 I think the only fair conclusion at this point is that everybody is an asshole, from Trump to Cruz to Fields to all of them

myself included

lets drink

Agreed...

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:46 AM (/dSsq)

478
Jeb Bush being there and considering possible endorsement I find puzzling...
Posted by: Skeezix

That's like playing spin the bottle, and one of the girls has a cold sore....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (kdS6q)

479 "why is Fields filing a criminal complaint against Lewandowski? "

It was prior to further info coming out. The charge may be withdrawn soon...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (WnCSK)

480 Houston-Nica, I'm sorry, but you are full of it. The last time I drove through Fredericksburg, they weren't erecting spires around the Lutheran churches or shutting down the wineries. Lay off the bath salts.

Posted by: no good deed at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (GgxVX)

481 "The part of Jeb Bush being there and considering possible endorsement I find puzzling..."

Heads. Would. Explode.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (LA7Cm)

482 Wow that Drudge headline is something else.... I
know He's in the tank for Trump, but I can't figure out why He hates
Cruz so much....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:38 AM (/dSsq)
=======================================

Gee whiz Matt. Why don't you just round us all up and put us in a camp?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (dFi94)

483 Just got here, so it may be old already.

Is this a thing?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=261150

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (ptqRm)

484 The Terris guy purposely "misidentified" the Lebowski guy. He was standing right there.

And looking at the pictures, Trump had passed the Field reporterette and she was reaching out to grab his shoulder. The security grabbed her forearm and pulled it down to keep her from touching him. That's why her forearm had the bruise and not her upper arm.

Sure Ms. Fields, proceed with the criminal complaint against Lewandoski.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (hTPJO)

485 First the beeotch wouldn't get out of the way in the primaries, now he endorses Trump? Fuck 'im.

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (ucB75)

486 392
I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:32 AM (0eidE)

Just because someone has a certain advanced skill set, does not mean they are smart or insightful or immune to falling for con men. People seem to miss that. It applies to anyone. If you have a Masters degree from Harvard, etc, that doesn't mean you're intelligent beyond your learned skill set of that degree.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (aRUb8)

487 "Heads. Would. Explode."

No doubt.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (WnCSK)

488 so fuck Fields and her beta boyfriend for manufacturing an outrage

fuck me for believing it

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (zOTsN)

489 So what I gate her from some of you Morons is that drudge is gay and hates the "icky" Cruz religiousness?

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (/dSsq)

490 Bill's book turned out to be a bit of a stinker.
Nice to see now that you've dropped MF as support for your "point" - as
to whatever that is.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:37 AM (C9pBZ)

Bill's book? No idea what you're talking about.

Friedman considered monetary policy to be the initial cause of the Great Depression. That was the only point I ever made about Friedman. I would argue that monetary (intially) and fiscal (over multiple years) policies were the source and fuel of the Great Depression. I think the instructive comparison is between the short depression of 1921-22 and the Great Depression. I have given some reasons why I think it's clear that Smoot-Hawley was relatively insignificant (net trade only changed a fraction of a percent, e.g.) What have you provided other than assertions? If it's so obvious that S-H was catastrophic, let's see the proof.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (nFdGS)

491 >>> Now, who is more likely to be giving Trump non Repub votes.... the 42%?,,, or would it be a conspiracy of Dems, who somehow all came together and started a conspiracy....
Posted by: Occam at March 11, 2016 11:43 AM (RK8AH)

I do think he is pulling in independents and I think he's getting dems legit voting for him, they'd rather have him than Hillary. But I still wonder.

On that note, the dem primary in Utah is open and I'm thinking of going and voting for Bernie to take votes from Hillary. (I'm nota registered republican, for reasons, so I can't vote in their closed primary.) Good plan?

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (hvf9s)

492
Let's not jump all over Ace because Breitbart got a few details wrong. If Trump had been there in his Nazi uniform, I'm certain he would have belted that woman just out of general meanness. So essentially, the thrust of the article was correct.
Posted by: jwest

Factually wrong but thematically correct is the new minimally accurate.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (kdS6q)

493 Too much Trump makes Homer go something something!

Posted by: homer simpson at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (WOyz5)

494 Thanks for the update on the Fields issue. Makes more sense that a security official would do that.

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (0eidE)

495 Trump won my vote last night. Two reasons:

1. Trump said openly and again "Islam hates us". That is good no matter how he came to that, or even how serious he is. Once you go there Islam will never let you out. So Trump is stuck there no matter what he does from this point on.

2. Cruz lectured Trump about how we should not view China as a bad guy. So Cruz and Rubio, complain about opening relations with Cuba, about their awful human rights record all of which is true. Yet on China which has just as bad a record, and is a far greater danger to our republic militarily and economically, is ok. We should keep up that "wonderful" cheap goods trade making China a economic challenger, while they prepare for kicking America's rear in war and steal our technology, trademarks, and jobs. Is that what Cruz is saying?

Last time I looked the CCP is still running China. That tells me Cruz is being swayed by his donors (on this issue at least), and by ideological nonsense that free trading with potential enemies is a good thing. Sounds like something Rand Paul would say. Thank god we did not do that in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. It just adds to the image that deep down Cruz still thinks the TPP is a good thing. How is that for "deep thinking"?

I still like Cruz, and on lots of things he is right, but please don't tell me how we must not have a trade war with China. If we cannot even threaten China with tariffs on their goods when they scr$w us, then we will never stop them on anything else. Including their military desires, etc.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (q52Ma)

496 Regarding current polling, the margin of error between where Trump polls and Cruz polls against Hillary is I'm sure is a lot of Republicans that will come home after the nomination is over and the campaign begins against Hillary.

I don't believe a significant faction of right-leaning voters will go for Hillary over Trump outside of the DC Beltway.

I also don't believe there's a voter out there that would vote for Cruz, but then change and vote for Hillary if Cruz was not the nominee.

I could see a centrist Kasich voter being that way, but not a Cruz voter.

So where Cruz is today in polling is probably a closer indication of where a Trump vs Hillary really is once this nasty primary is over.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (W1GMT)

497

conservative treehouse was reporting last night that Cruz met with GOPe strategists and is pulling out of FL

I thought Cruz was opening 10 more campaign HQs to knock Mario out.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (oVJmc)

498 Nice to see so many new and unfamiliar nics here. Welcome. Don't pee on the carpet.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (dFi94)

499

according to Got News Now

the lovely Ms Fields has a book coming out in June

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (zOTsN)

500 gate her=gather.... damned auto correct...

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (/dSsq)

501 "As Ted Cruz pointed out last night, there's no there there."

And in a matter of mere weeks, Don Trump is going to have the nomination sewn up. Which leaves people with two choices:

Support the guy.

Don't support the guy.

Some folks have decided early on supporting the guy, which, we must be reminded, is what the Republican Party says people SHOULD do for their eventual nominee.

So you're going to fault Carson or eventually when Cruz swallows his whatever, and endorses Trump, you're going to fault him??

Get ready for disappointment, if such things disappoint you.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (TOk1P)

502 >>>Conservative Treehouse is Drudge is Breitbart.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (sQQU0)

***

I heard Jamie Dupree say the same thing on WSB this morning as I was smoking my "I know I can face this day" Camel cigarette.

Complete aside, but I took up Camels after listening to John Prine's "Grandpa Was A Carpenter". Great song.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (bpn7O)

503 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (ptqRm)

Yes. It means that Marco wants a contested or brokered convention.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (aRUb8)

504 Since this has gone way over 200 posts, I guess I can post this sweet story about a father and son:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gqpk9uf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (w4NZ8)

505 459 The security grabbed her forearm and pulled it down to keep her from touching him. That's why her forearm had the bruise and not her upper arm.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:41 AM (LXJ1e)

that could make sense, too. If her arm was raised, they would have been pulling it down.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:44 AM (AkOaV)

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I think Fields mischaracterized what she was doing and my opinion Terris lied. He was standing right there looking at the two men.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (LXJ1e)

506 Posted by: no good deed at March 11, 2016 11:47 AM (GgxVX)

Fredericksburg has the highest lutheran/microbrewery per capita ratio in Texas right?

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (0eidE)

507 conservative treehouse was reporting last night that Cruz met with GOPe strategists and is pulling out of FL

I thought Cruz was opening 10 more campaign HQs to knock Mario out.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at

one might be intentional misinformation

I believe the pulling out of FL is intentional misinformation. It was not sourced and no one big is reporting it

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (zOTsN)

508 Sloganeering + Non sequitur = cerebral

Dude.

* takes rip from bong filled with synthetic marijuana *

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (UzPAd)

509 People keep saying "security guard" but lets not forget that Trump has secret service protection.

So I suppose it could be private security, but the guy riding shotgun with Trump would most likely be secret service, right?

Not one of his hired security guards?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (AkOaV)

510 It is funny when the immigration-hawk side of the conservative brain meets with the free trade (anti-tariff) side of the conservative brain, because the economics are the same.But cheap goods are important only if it doesn't come with the actual physical presence of Mexicanlabor?I note thatmany conservatives do everything they can to ensure these two-sides of their brain never meet.

Posted by: JBrother at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (tiZ4y)

511 "I thought Cruz was opening 10 more campaign HQs to knock Mario out."

He thinks Rubio is polling badly enough there now that he doesn't need to waste resources.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (qHM3d)

512 I thought Carson said he wouldn't endorse

Posted by: Tommy Flanagan, The Pathological Liar at March 11, 2016 11:52 AM (e8kgV)

513 So now Breitbart says that their reporter was not assaulted by Trumps manager but by a secret service agent. How long will we be waiting for all of the apologies and retractions after so many jumped in attacking Corey Lewandowski and Trump?

Posted by: zzBottom at March 11, 2016 11:52 AM (LxBcy)

514 Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 11:48 AM (aRUb

You could be right. That would make a lot of sense. Trump is a great salesman and somehow Carson got convinced to endorse him after speaking with him.....

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:52 AM (0eidE)

515 Pretty much, Draki.

Posted by: no good deed at March 11, 2016 11:52 AM (GgxVX)

516
So I suppose it could be private security, but the guy riding shotgun with Trump would most likely be secret service, right?

Very possible.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (oVJmc)

517 I keep telling myself that voting is my civic duty. I keep telling myself that. I don't seem to be listening too well.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (dFi94)

518 You know the most pathetic part of the trumpers?
They're pissed at the "elite" so they want to put a celebrity billionaire in charge
It just boggles the mind

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (xsQZk)

519 I think Fields mischaracterized what she was doing and my opinion Terris lied. He was standing right there looking at the two men.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (LXJ1e)

the chick is a known rabble rouser. She got her start by interrupting a town hall when she was in college (or something, forget the details) and has been jumping around "conservative media" since then.

Probably just wanted to get her name in the news.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (AkOaV)

520 meh,

I'm still rooting for Cruz and a Reagan style comeback for American prosperity. But the GOPe deserves to die after all the backstabbing they did when the base got energized and tried to pull them back to core conservative values.

So I don't begrudge people going we will use Trump to burn the GOPe down now, maybe there is still enough knowledge and resources to build an actual opposition to socialism political party.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (tq5N4)

521 517 I keep telling myself that voting is my civic duty. I keep telling myself that. I don't seem to be listening too well.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM

grammie, I'm so there with You....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (/dSsq)

522
So you're going to fault Carson or eventually when Cruz swallows his whatever, and endorses Trump, you're going to fault him??

Get ready for disappointment, if such things disappoint you.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 11, 2016 11:50 AM (TOk1P)

What is your point supposed to be? The disappointment is in Carson, for being so gullible when he could have thrown his support behind a Conservative instead of an idiot.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (aRUb8)

523 >>> Just want to say that when I read these types of threads (not that i read it all), I'm so grateful for the feel good stories at the Friday morning news dump. Thanks, MisHum
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 11:45 AM (w4NZ

Morning Fenelon! Some more morning happy for you: sea dog meets land dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRGBP48YMfM

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (hvf9s)

524 from Michelle Fields wiki:
" she gained national attention after having a confrontation with actor Matt Damon over teacher tenure reform"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (AkOaV)

525 2. Cruz lectured Trump about how we should not view China as a bad guy. So Cruz and Rubio, complain about opening relations with Cuba, about their awful human rights record all of which is true. Yet on China which has just as bad a record, and is a far greater danger to our republic militarily and economically, is ok. We should keep up that "wonderful" cheap goods trade making China a economic challenger, while they prepare for kicking America's rear in war and steal our technology, trademarks, and jobs. Is that what Cruz is saying?

Posted by: William Eaton at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (q52Ma)

------------

Yes. That is what Cruz is saying.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (LXJ1e)

526 I will not vote for (D) Donald Trump or (S) Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Ralph at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (sNESL)

527 We have been so jerked around during this primary with all kinds of BS

Posted by: L, Elle at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (2x3L+)

528 IF YOU THINK AMERICA IS GRATIN NOW - VOTE KASICH!!!

See what a Man-Potato Hybrid Can Do For You!

KETCHUP AMERICA WITH KASICH!

Posted by: John Kasich - What Supports this Ad with lots of Chili and Plenty of Cheese at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (0cMkb)

529 I lost a bit of respect for Carson in this election, but I thought hey, he is a doctor not a politico......now I have lost all respect for the man as he is not able to see a con man for what he is.

Posted by: Dave at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (hm8tW)

530 So I suppose it could be private security, but the guy riding shotgun with Trump would most likely be secret service, right?

Not one of his hired security guards?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:51 AM (AkOaV)

Should be secret service.

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (0eidE)

531 Good link in Make America Great Again nik. It appears Carson's Trump endorsement might be payback for Cruz' team's "Carson is getting out of the race" tweets in Iowa.

"Vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord," indeed, Ben.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (laMCB)

532 It's such a lovely day today.

My desk in my home office faces the windows and the view is marvelous. Blue skies, nice clouds, nice breeze, birds chirping, tree leaves rustling.

Just lovely.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (SEFXb)

533 Posted by: zzBottom at March 11, 2016 11:52 AM (LxBcy)

the story will disappear, retractions will be light and/or nonexistant and the narrative that "Trump and his Brown Shirts hate women and minorities" will continue on.

That's how the media we all know and love works.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (AkOaV)

534 Hi Navycopjoe. Are you ready for some baseball?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (dFi94)

535 As I originally read it, Fields never even saw who touched her. She got Lewandowsky from the WaPo douche, who I will now refer to as 'Iago.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (oVJmc)

536 scrum -
an
ordered formation of players, used to restart play, in which the
forwards of a team form up with arms interlocked and heads down, and
push forward against a similar group from the opposing side. The ball is
thrown into the scrum and the players try to gain possession of it by
kicking it backward toward their own side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5mi1H8lgs

Some bruising may occur.

Posted by: DaveA at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (DL2i+)

537 So we're saying we should be as skeptical of fields as of drudge?

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (0eidE)

538 ...why is Fields filing a criminal complaint against Lewandowski?...

Gets her attention?
Gets her a payoff?
Someone is egging her on?
She has a personal grudge?

Why would I care? I'm not voting for Trump but I don't see the relevance. Is lack-of-hair or penis size more important than someone I don't know doing something that normally would be dismissed in court (because everyone pulled up their adult panties by the time it get to a judge) if he did it?
This man indicates nothing about Trump that is relevant.

Posted by: scorecard at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (rnH8X)

539 Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:39 AM (W1GMT)

Rubio's campaign said the same thing.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (xzZPy)

540 Lewandowski?

Back, and to the right.
Back, and to the right.

Posted by: Oliver Stoned at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (Dttnn)

541 WRT that "Islam hates us" bit, NPR had some wailing bint on, complaining about how that's problematic.

Trump does the best killshots.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (bpn7O)

542 504 Since this has gone way over 200 posts, I guess I can post this sweet story about a father and son:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gqpk9uf
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Thank you, Fen. You're always a breath of fresh air when we're being horrible.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (1xUj/)

543 secret service knocked another reporter down at a Trump rally, remember?

the threats against him must be sky high, and from all sides

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (zOTsN)

544 Grammie, you can always vote for American Constitution Party or write in Scott Walker. I wish everyone who thinks yuck to both big party choices would do that every year. In politics silence/no vote is consent.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (tq5N4)

545 At least Donald doesn't eat his boogers!

Posted by: Trumpeteer at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (yn6XZ)

546 I lost a bit of respect for Carson in this election, but I thought hey, he is a doctor not a politico......now I have lost all respect for the man as he is not able to see a con man for what he is.
Posted by: Dave at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (hm8tW)

Feeling the same way.

Posted by: Draki at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (0eidE)

547 I'm starting to think Trump is dumb. While reading the transcripts of his statements, he comes across as barely literate. "We're going to win on the military." Whatever the fuck that means.

Trump is warmed over Buchanan-ism injected with a speedball of Charlie Sheen faux-bravado.

This campaign is resembling a Dada performance art piece.

Posted by: MJP at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (VL5GB)

548 Trump's hair isn't pretty but I think the theory applies to him anyway
because he spends a lot of time and product on it and it's all about the
vanity.
________

After almost 8 years of petty meangirls garbage, even out in the 'global community' we want more of it? Makes no sense.

Cruz is my guy. I am an old agnostic and do not find anyone's faith a hindrance or benefit if their purpose is Constitutional principles of governance.

My big bugaboo with Clinton/Trump/Sanders is the fact that they are old shouty people who have not thought through their current positions.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (MIKMs)

549 There once was a Mis Hums' dump
That wasn't full of nothing but Trump
Some was funny and true
Most not particularly blue
Well made just like LauraW's hump!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (WOyz5)

550

it was a Time Magazine photographer

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (zOTsN)

551 " after having a confrontation with actor Matt Damon "

Matt Damon!!!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (LA7Cm)

552 525 2. Cruz lectured Trump about how we should not view China as a bad guy. So Cruz and Rubio, complain about opening relations with Cuba, about their awful human rights record all of which is true. Yet on China which has just as bad a record, and is a far greater danger to our republic militarily and economically, is ok. We should keep up that "wonderful" cheap goods trade making China a economic challenger, while they prepare for kicking America's rear in war and steal our technology, trademarks, and jobs. Is that what Cruz is saying?

Posted by: William Eaton

Can you imagine had Trump made that point in last night's debate? What a missed opportunity.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (W1GMT)

553 Tariffs: Because the Chinese tire tariff worked out so well.

The way I have it figured, the next time The Donald flip-flops it will cost him $8 more.

Posted by: Hank at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (xcTMW)

554 My desk in my home office faces the windows and the
view is marvelous. Blue skies, nice clouds, nice breeze, birds
chirping, tree leaves rustling.

Just lovely.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 11:55 AM (SEFXb)
===============================================

We looked at a condo this morning next to a stream and a nature path that leads to a large popular lake. The bedroom faces the stream. Deer are frequently seen at the edge of the nature preserve. Right now it is at the top of the list.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (dFi94)

555 secret service knocked another reporter down at a Trump rally, remember?

Yes. And that original story was misreported, as well.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (oVJmc)

556 518
You know the most pathetic part of the trumpers?

They're pissed at the "elite" so they want to put a celebrity billionaire in charge

It just boggles the mind

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (xsQZk)

Amazing, isn't it. It seems that many conservatives are just as gullible as the Obamatrons were. Wait. I take that back. The Obamatrons were the first and their gullibility could be somewhat excused. Now the same bullshit is coming around again, and the run of the mill conservatives are falling for it with comparable zeal and sycophancy. No excuse for that.

Posted by: Mimzey at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (aRUb8)

557 That was the only point I ever made about Friedman"

??? No, you claimed MF downplayed SH, and I pointed out what MF actually said.

BTW, I do take Friedman's actual words on SH and it's impact on TGD. You may choose not to.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (C9pBZ)

558 454 Anyone think Jeb will endorse Trump?

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can't imagine he could work up the energy to endorse him.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (oGRue)

559 Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (hvf9s)

Thanks, Liz. That was cute. The dog looks like he's used to sea lions lying on top of him. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (w4NZ8)

560 If it goes to a brokered convention I nominate Clint Eastwood!

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (/dSsq)

561 204 Also, will somebody please explain to me how someone who can't get out of the primaries can have a better chance against their opponent than the one who apparently can? I hear this argument year after year, candidate after candidate, and I can never quite get the logic behind the assertion.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 11:03 AM (9krrF)
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It's easy.
The voters in primaries are a very small, highly select group who (mostly) pay attention to politics and have relatively strong opinions. Thus primary candidates pitch their campaign to the more "extreme" elements.
Dems go Maoist on steroids, Reps go so-con and burn-the-departments-down. Whatever.

The voters in the general election comprise a huge group, many of whom vote only in presidential elections and many of whom are fuzzy "moderates" and LIVs.
Thus candidates in the general tack to the center. You have to have that big tent.

Even if a candidate won a 51% majority of primary voters, that would only represent about 10% of the general electorate. If he can't appeal to a wider audience, if he has very high negatives, he will not do well in the general.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (T/5A0)

562 When globalization was sold to us, we were promised many decades of ever-increasing prosperity.

The the border opened up to everybody. And I mean EVERYBODY. Who signed on for kids scampering across the southern border? Who signed on for the US Government handing out bus tickets to illegal aliens for travel to the US interior?

Instead of decades of prosperity, we got 10 years of sub 3.0% annual GDP growth.

If we had fair trade, we'd demand that Mexico open IT'S frickin' border to US investors:

Allow 100% ownership of Mexican companies by foreign firms
Allow 100% permanent ownership of Mexican real estate by foreigners
Allow 100% ownership of Mexican media companies by foreigners

And that would be a good start. Let's see what the Mexican government thinks of that.

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (JBggj)

563 "can't imagine he could work up the energy to endorse him.'"

+1!

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (WnCSK)

564 Grammie, you can always vote for American
Constitution Party or write in Scott Walker. I wish everyone who
thinks yuck to both big party choices would do that every year.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (tq5N4)
==========================================

That's actually a very good idea. Thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (dFi94)

565 I think you're letting your rage get the better of you.

-----

Yep. I consider myself above average intelligence. Way above average on being informed.

I realize there is a time for deep reflective thinking, and a time for being emotional.

Its time for a little emotion. My head pulls me to Cruz. My heart pulls me to Trump.

Im the end... Im pulling the lever for Trump. Because FUCK YOU!!!..... thats why.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 11:59 AM (8XRCm)

566
Yes. That is what Cruz is saying.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:54 AM (LXJ1e)
No, that's biggly mis-characterization.
Trump said let's tariff the fuck out of China. To wit, Cruz wisely pointed out that hurting the people going to walmart to buy goods today wasn't the answer to the China problem.
Trump: I'm gonna put tariffs on China and then build US manufacturing plants to give Americans sweet, sweet goods. Because I have a department of business building.
In other words, I have no clue how any of this actually works.
Trump is a fucking moron.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (2PHKP)

567 the chick is a known rabble rouser. She got her start by interrupting a town hall when she was in college (or something, forget the details) and has been jumping around "conservative media" since then.

Probably just wanted to get her name in the news.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (AkOaV)

I thought her statement about wanting to report the news instead of being or was weird. Like the lady dost protest too much. Something seemed fishy. But I did say that if it was true, it wasn't okay (also not a yuuuge deal) and Trump's people should just have apologized.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (SEFXb)

568 I'm sure twitter is full of corrections, anybody check the (cess)pool today

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (aQQbl)

569 If a president Cruz doesn't get his way will we be treated to more Dr. Seuss, because, you know, he "knows how to handle Washington"? I mean, I'm actually chortling as I write this.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (O0lVq)

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Cruz is qualified to be Solicitor General. That's it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 11, 2016 11:35 AM (LXJ1e)

I have to agree with this. Cruz has demonstrated unwavering convictions and principles. He has also demonstrated that he cannot lead in the Senate or get enough collaboration to get even part of what he wants to pass accomplished.

I don't know how he will be able to get an entire Congress together to hammer out anything remotely considered heading in the right direction.

The reason Obama has been able to get what he wanted done for the most part is because he had a Democrat congress initially, then there are always enough Rinos available, the "modarates" who will vote to get along with the Democrats, particularly if they are from a heavily Democrat state. If he couldn't get something through, he simply EO'd and said , "sue me".

I believe that the general populace sees in Trump, someone who can work both sides, getting most of what he wants but giving the other side just enough to get them onboard. He DOES have to work through congress, despite what we have seen the last few years with Obama's pen and phone. That means he has a total of 535 individuals he needs to convince, at least a majority of, of whatever he wants to do.

Trump can't simply start declaring trade deals, new immigration laws, etc. Neither can Cruz. I think most people feel that although Cruz' goals are probably more conservative, more "pure", he will not in practicality be able to get any of them implemented. Supreme Court nominees, possibly but that 's it.

And I would like to rely a lot less on the SC to deliver the edicts I like. I would rather make laws the old fashioned way, through congress.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (rKNmI)

570 Yes. And that original story was misreported, as well.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (oVJmc)

Is Trump going to pay for the legal fees of that guy who sucker punched that guy, or was that misreported by Trump...he didn't REALLY mean that?

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (aRUb8)

571 Back in the Microeconomics Lab in college the Free Trade Experiment works. In the Real World with Welfare Benefits I need to care that my neighbor has a job so that he can pay into the System for a good part of his productive years. Else I'm carrying him too.

We've been building an odd Borg economy that's not sustainable. What do you think would happen to Walmart's stock price were we to eliminate EBT payments entirely? And I'm not counting the damage from the inevitable riots.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (r1fLd)

572 You know the most pathetic part of the trumpers?
They're pissed at the "elite" so they want to put a celebrity billionaire in charge
It just boggles the mind

Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (xsQZk)

You know what has been hilarious? People here have been shouting Let It Burn for years. Drew and Ace swore war on the GOPe.

Their wish has been granted.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (hLRSq)

573 "Trump is a fucking moron."

The moron is doing pretty good admittedly....

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (WnCSK)

574 Weird that the Fields story is a lie, considering Lewandowski said it was because he thought she was with the mainstream media.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (sQQU0)

575 Welcome. Don't pee on the carpet.

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Wait, when did that become a rule?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (kTF2Z)

576 ...Trump's hair isn't pretty...

But it diverts attention and makes him look younger than a bald hairdo. I think it's a smart move on his part.

Posted by: scorecard at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (rnH8X)

577 Grammie,do you mind sharing why you don't like the remaining candidates? You can skip Kasich. (Heh.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (SEFXb)

578 I thought her statement about wanting to report the news instead of being or was weird. Like the lady dost protest too much. Something seemed fishy. But I did say that if it was true, it wasn't okay (also not a yuuuge deal) and Trump's people should just have apologized.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (SEFXb)

well, now that it looks like IF she was grabbed, it was by a federal agent, should Obama issue an apology on behalf of the secret service to the reporter?

Will the twitter warriors be up in arms demanding an apology from Obama?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (AkOaV)

579 I should have known better than to believe a reporter

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (zOTsN)

580 How long will we be waiting for all of the apologies and retractions
after so many jumped in attacking Corey Lewandowski and Trump?

Ace usually acknowledges when he's wrong.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (oVJmc)

581 How many dimensions of chess are we up to now?

Trump in public is not Trump in private.

Cruz supporters should vote for Rubio in Florida and Kasich n Ohio.

Hey! Where are the calls, as Drew asked on Twitter, for Rubio supporters to vote for Cruz in the other races?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (8PbKi)

582 You know what has been hilarious? People here have been shouting Let It Burn for years. Drew and Ace swore war on the GOPe.

Their wish has been granted.

Yeah. A monumental oooops.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (hTPJO)

583
"That would be the kiss of death that might actually kill Trump"

Probably :-)

Doubtful... too low-energy

Posted by: cool breeze at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (ckvus)

584 How long will we be waiting for all of the apologies and retractions
after so many jumped in attacking Corey Lewandowski and Trump?

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Probably at least until Trumps inauguration.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:03 PM (8XRCm)

585 Blue skies, nice clouds, nice breeze, birds
chirping, tree leaves rustling. "

Well, it's still pretty grey here. Plus a bit of local flooding. Dogs really want to go out and run around - even with a layer of mud about.
But hey, still upright and all that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 12:03 PM (C9pBZ)

586
He has had ample opportunity but at every turn instead of proving he is, took the opportunity to have the cases thrown out for procedural reasons - ample proof that he knows he is not eligible - and thus ample proof that he really isn't a constitutionalist, just paid to be one.

That's not how the court game is played. First, you oppose on technical grounds. Only if those are rejected do you actually have to make a case.

Posted by: Evan3457 at March 11, 2016 12:03 PM (PKxtF)

587 National Review finally, and grudgingly, endorsed Cruz.
The only sensible thing is for Cruz to drop out and endorse Rubio.

Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2016 12:03 PM (zqqpJ)

588 I'm gonna write in Russel the Love Muscle. I know he won't screw me; he's too short, and doesn't bend that way.

Posted by: My Pud 2016! at March 11, 2016 12:03 PM (yn6XZ)

589
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 11, 2016 11:53 AM (xsQZk)

Amazing, isn't it. It seems that many conservatives are just as gullible as the Obamatrons were. Wait. I take that back. The Obamatrons were the first and their gullibility could be somewhat excused. Now the same bullshit is coming around again, and the run of the mill conservatives are falling for it with comparable zeal and sycophancy. No excuse for that.

Posted by: Mimzey at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (aRUb

Some of us understand there is a difference between Political Elites... and Business Elites.

Posted by: Occam at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (RK8AH)

590 547
I'm starting to think Trump is dumb. While reading the transcripts of
his statements, he comes across as barely literate. "We're going to win
on the military." Whatever the fuck that means.

Trump is warmed over Buchanan-ism injected with a speedball of Charlie Sheen faux-bravado.

This campaign is resembling a Dada performance art piece.

Posted by: MJP at March 11, 2016 11:57 AM (VL5GB)

Which is exactly why so many people are both flabbergasted at the Trump support and desperate to stop him. He's an idiot. No one seems to care, because burn GOPe down or something. But no one seems to know how exactly he'll do that. Other than pissing in the punch bowl, which he won't do, because Trump is an egotistical asshole who will fit right in when he gets to Washington.

And all the Trump supporters who thought he was SMOD will just stand there, slack jawed as he dines on ladyfingers and drinks from the gold chalice.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (2PHKP)

591 Is Trump going to pay for the legal fees of that guy who sucker punched that guy, or was that misreported by Trump...he didn't REALLY mean that?
Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 12:00 PM (aRUb

Heh. Yeah, poor innocent black guy just hanging out at a Trump rally with his Muslim friend and gay writer friend, mind his own business... well, and flipping off people, cursing them out, screaming in their faces, gets hit by a 75 year old (or whatever) for getting up in his face.

Totally should be major news.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (AkOaV)

592 Every single time a media or political type comments on free trade and tariffs i alternately cringe or belly laugh because none of you understand it at all, not one teeny tiny bit. to call Trump clueless and then say something clueless is deliciously ironic. so what if we get good manufacturing jobs back, you may pay more for your cheap chinese shit !! ZOMG its the end times. educate your fucking self Drew. even the proponents of free trade acknowledge its a job killer in the "short term" ie, the next hundred years or so. You call trump dumb because he's 3 miles over your head on the issue. its soundbites over substance. they kill trump about his math adding up and he's looking at the entire bloated corrupt federal government bringing in 200 billion a month in tax revenue and knows he can run this bitch at a profit, simply by not being a corrupt moron like the current people running things. to disagree with Cruz here, yes, you absolutely can fix DC by having smarter people run it.

Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oMdtQ)

593 Welcome. Don't pee on the carpet.

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Why???

Its covered wall to wall with cat shit.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (8XRCm)

594 "he will not in practicality be able to get any of them implemented. Supreme Court nominees, possibly but that 's it.
"

Oh bullshit.

Cruz's stated policies are the same as every other republican politician. It doesn't take a charming personality to shame the GOPers into doing the things they always promised to do if only we'd give them a republican president.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (qHM3d)

595 513

Ace will get all embarrassed again.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (q52Ma)

596 I think National Review does not have any where near the influence they think they have

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (zOTsN)

597 National Review finally, and grudgingly, endorsed Cruz.

If they would have just done that instead of the anti-Trump clusterfuck issue, they might have had a lot more positive effect.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oVJmc)

598 What do you think would happen to Walmart's stock price were we to eliminate EBT payments entirely?"

The Brawndo Corporation?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 12:05 PM (C9pBZ)

599
Trump shd file a police complaint against Fields for attempted battery when she lunged for him. lol

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 12:05 PM (iQIUe)

600 569
If a president Cruz doesn't get his way will we be treated to more Dr.
Seuss, because, you know, he "knows how to handle Washington"? I mean,
I'm actually chortling as I write this.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2016 11:23 AM (O0lVq)

Get a clue and think for yourself, would be a suggestion some may offer you. Mindlessly parroting a meme is lame, they may also add.
Cruz read Seuss for his daughter.

Posted by: Mr. Really Obvious at March 11, 2016 12:05 PM (aRUb8)

601 We looked at a condo this morning next to a stream and a nature path that leads to a large popular lake. The bedroom faces the stream. Deer are frequently seen at the edge of the nature preserve. Right now it is at the top of the list.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (dFi94)

That's sounds like a dream. I would love to live by a stream or small river.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:05 PM (SEFXb)

602 Even if a candidate won a 51% majority of primary voters, that would only represent about 10% of the general electorate. If he can't appeal to a wider audience, if he has very high negatives, he will not do well in the general.

Doesn't seem to slow the Dems down much. It's almost as if there are other factors involved that affect the outcome...perhaps even conscious manipulation of information by allegedly "neutral" entities that determine what the voters see...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 11, 2016 12:06 PM (9krrF)

603 You mean what Trump supporters do literally every time he posts a poll?
A commenter above (post #250+ at least) says the spamming was done by an automated computer programme not (historically) Paulians or current Trump supporters multiple voting after clearing cookies etc.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (WOyz5)

604 And all the Trump supporters who thought he was SMOD will just stand there, slack jawed as he dines on ladyfingers and drinks from the gold chalice.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM

Well said. He is a total buffoon.

Posted by: MJP at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (VL5GB)

605 That's sounds like a dream. I would love to live by a stream or small river.

Right now I am.. albeit only temporary.... It's raining so hard here I think I see salmon swimming up the drive way to spawn!

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (/dSsq)

606 If it's so obvious that S-H was catastrophic, let's see the proof.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 11:49 AM (nFdGS)

Five months after Smoot-Hawley was enacted, unemployment hit double digits for the first time, arresting a positive trend.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (Zu3d9)

607 Grammie,do you mind sharing why you don't like the remaining candidates? You can skip Kasich. (Heh.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (SEFXb)
==============================================Sure. A) Trump belongs in a clown car, not the White House; also he is Pro-Choice and that is my line in the sand. Yeah, I know I know, and I don't believe a word of it. B) Cruz would be my natural tendency but he is off-putting and I think has zero chance against Hillary, and C) Is Rubio still in it? Rubio is a weasel.

By default, I could vote for Cruz. But I would be hard-pressed to put my name to any of the other candidates.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (dFi94)

608 593 Welcome. Don't pee on the carpet.

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Why???

Its covered wall to wall with cat shit.

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but it does pull the whole room together

Posted by: The Dude at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (oGRue)

609 #597

If they would have just done that instead of the anti-Trump clusterfuck issue, they might have had a lot more positive effect.

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The Spice for those NR salaries flows from somewhere ..

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (JBggj)

610 If they would have just done that instead of the anti-Trump clusterfuck issue, they might have had a lot more positive effect.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oVJmc)

Yup. Our elite are really dumb. Even people who weren't supporting Trump were angered by it. Where was the wholesale repudiation of Thad Cochran, for example?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:07 PM (SEFXb)

611 Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (SEFXb)
==============================================Sure. A) Trump belongs in a clown car, not the White House; also he is Pro-Choice and that is my line in the sand. Yeah, I know I know, and I don't believe a word of it. B) Cruz would be my natural tendency but he is off-putting and I think has zero chance against Hillary, and C) Is Rubio still in it? Rubio is a weasel.

Couldn't have said it better Myself...

By default, I could vote for Cruz. But I would be hard-pressed to put my name to any of the other candidates.

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (/dSsq)

612 What's with all of the new posters the past few days? Hash shows up, makes one post in the thread, and disappears. Post is always reciting a boilerplate Trump talking point about Cruz (Goldman Sachs wife, Canadian born, bible thumper, Neil Bush, lying liar mcliarton, etc). The name is always generic, like "Hank".

Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (zqqpJ)

613 But it diverts attention and makes him look younger than a bald hairdo. I think it's a smart move on his part.
Posted by: scorecard at March 11, 2016 12:01 PM (rnH8X)

Yep, and it may be his best option. However, in my little world real men don't mold and sculpt their hair. They just have it mowed regularly and comb it in the AM. In my husband's case, he thinks the combing part is optional and i have to get after him for that.

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (ozZau)

614 Thanks, grammie!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (SEFXb)

615 No, you claimed MF downplayed SH, and I pointed out what MF actually said.

BTW, I do take Friedman's actual words on SH and it's impact on TGD. You may choose not to.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 11:58 AM (C9pBZ)
No, I said that Friedman argued that TGP was caused by monetary policy. Which he did. I never addressed what his opinion of S-H was. I went on to give other reasons why S-H was relatively unimportant.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (nFdGS)

616 The good news and the bad news.

The good news: The National Review has ENDORSED TED CRUZ!!

The bad news: THE NATIONAL REVIEW has endorsed Cruz.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

617
I'm sure twitter is full of corrections, anybody check the (cess)pool today
Posted by: IP

At the moment, it's as if #NeverTrump on twitter and the GOPe/Kept Conservative Core World blogs have all -- paused.

You can see the gears clicking as they try and figure out how to spin reality.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (kdS6q)

618 @592
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That's spectacular. I laughed all the way through it.

Posted by: MTF at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (TxJGV)

619 Couldn't have said it better Myself...

Meant that as an answer to yours....

Posted by: donna at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (/dSsq)

620 >>How long will we be waiting for all of the apologies and retractions after so many jumped in attacking Corey Lewandowski and Trump?

The "Nifong Effect" on the blog was breathtaking.

Mr. Trump is a firm deity, but He is fair. You're all forgiven for being spastics.

Posted by: General Zod at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (Bdeb0)

621 Somebody said this before I'm sure.
But when exactly did we start believing reporters (even our own) that source and cite other reporters for accuracy?
Really, weren't we better than that?

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (aQQbl)

622 it's actually not rage but a beliefs that trump serves as a better counter cultural movement to the femininzing and political correctness of our society. I don't think once conservative candidate can fix anything. I do believe a cultural movement can. Trump is a play at the big picture to me.

Posted by: bob at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (W7T0U)

623 They're pissed at the "elite" so they want to put a celebrity billionaire in charge. It just boggles the mind
*************

It's about as insane as electing a Grade B actor to office.

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (qHgBB)

624
I cant tell you how many times I've been physically stopped by security for doing something boneheaded but innocuous. I didnt whine. I have been physically lifted off the ground and carried away by both the federal marshals and the French Army. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (iQIUe)

625 Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oMdtQ)

*****

Allow me to translate:

Right index finger in left palm, tap, tap, tap. Hook 'em Horns. "OK" sign, index finger of other hand through the hole, open palm vertical squiggle, twice. Dolphin leaps right to left then left to right. Two fingers up bunny hop, hands in armpits flap elbows, flap, flap. Thumb and finger "L" to forehead, tap, tap, tap, squiggle, mark of Zorro in the air, hesitate, catch breath.

Thumbs in ears waggle fingers, thumb and pinkie "Hang Loose" waggle,

Posted by: Mandela fake sign language guy at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (NeFrd)

626 Is Taylor Millard at Hotair going to apologize? If he doesn't then of course he should be fired. For leaving bruises on Trump's campaign manager. :-)

Posted by: scorecard at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (rnH8X)

627 We've lost a lot of jobs because we've put so many great policies in place. This will take years to reverse but you can start a journey with just a few steps.

It's not just labor costs. It's also regulation. It's also tax policy -- companies like Google pay a lot less than rack rate on corporate income taxes. And it puts its server farms in Canada where electric rates are low. But it depends on the US to defend its IP rights. I could go on.

You can compare how Buffalo and Pittsburgh responded to the challenges of the 1970s as a case study. It continues to this day with NY banning fracking. A key lesson is that it's not the old jobs you lose that kills you -- it's the new jobs you might have had that go elsewhere.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 12:10 PM (r1fLd)

628 Oh bullshit.

Cruz's stated policies are the same as every other republican politician. It doesn't take a charming personality to shame the GOPers into doing the things they always promised to do if only we'd give them a republican president.
Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (qHM3d)

My point, Lauren.
Most folks don't believe Cruz is going to be able to "shame" the GOPers into doing anything. He's tried and hasn't accomplished it yet. I honestly believe the jerk GOP hacks, such as McConnell, would rather work against Cruz than attempt to work with him , simply because they consider him more of a threat to their structure and goody bag than Trump.
He has exposed them and they won't forget that.

And by the way, I've been a Cruz supporter. I voted for him in the Michigan Primary.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 11, 2016 12:10 PM (rKNmI)

629 "I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?"
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Who knows?
But the assumption that someone who disagrees with you (and me, BTW) must be on the take is rash.
I mean, it COULD be so --- but not necessarily.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 11, 2016 12:10 PM (T/5A0)

630 I dont think any of has really has any idea what we are in for in this election, or with Trump

gonna be a wild ride

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:10 PM (zOTsN)

631 "I think you're letting your rage get the better of you."

I have contained my rage for as long as possible. But I shall unleash my fury upon you LIKE THE CRASHING OF A 1,000 WAVES!!!

BE GONE VILE MAN! BE GONE FROM ME!

Posted by: Dennis Reynolds, The Golden God at March 11, 2016 12:10 PM (BDZWU)

632 Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oMdtQ)

Your grammatically horrid condescension falls even flatter when you also can't spell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:11 PM (Zu3d9)

633 It's about as insane as electing a Grade B actor to office.
*************************************************

Trump isn't Reagan.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:11 PM (sQQU0)

634 What I don't get is the idea that Trump is the answer. If it were Trump v. Marco Rubio? Yeah, I'd get Trump. But there's a guy in the race who actually is as hated by the GOP as Trump is (maybe even more so) and has the added advantage of actually understanding the problems and the conservative solutions.

It boils down to two things.

1) A lot of people don't think Cruz can win (I'm one of them, even though I really like the guy).
2) Some people are Christophobic: as soon as someone is openly and comfortably Christian, they freak out and run.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:11 PM (39g3+)

635 >>>If it goes to a brokered convention I nominate Clint Eastwood!<<<

I nominate Lindsay Graham. That little teddy-bear-of-a-man loves to kill him some muslims! Boy Howdy!

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2016 12:11 PM (UzPAd)

636 Yeah, and I'm for Cruz. But what if you think Trump has a better shot at actually, you know, winning...?? This is a real quandary.

And don't go throwing meaningless February/March polls at me. If the GOPe would stop sliming him, Trump is a real threat to Hillary, Cruz much less so once the Democratic/media attack machine gears up against him.

Hillary will be a weak candidate, it's possible either Cruz or Trump can take her--but Trump creates a whole new dynamic, Cruz will have to defend himself against charges of irresponsibly shutting down the govt in 2013--unfair, I know, but that is what most people believe and he will have to spend a lot of effort, time and money just to crawl out of that hole.

Posted by: mhjhnsn at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (FZdvr)

637 I went on to give other reasons why S-H was relatively unimportant."

And I gave you what MF actually said, rather than your impressions (and moving goalposts).

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (C9pBZ)

638 "Some of their anger is apparently directed at fancy-pants candidates who went to Princeton and speak substantively and in complete sentences. "

why yes, yes it is. because said fancy pantses who SAY all the right things while running, then proceed to do none of those things while in office. which is why debates don't matter anymore. you can talk a good game but it falls flat because we're on to it. I heard Cruz talk about many amazing things he will do, and i sit there thinking no you wont dude. you're lying.

Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (oMdtQ)

639 I cant tell you how many times I've been physically stopped by security
for doing something boneheaded but innocuous. I didnt whine. I have
been physically lifted off the ground and carried away by both the
federal marshals and the French Army. LOL
========

Yeah, and don't get drunk and grab a stripper! BAD things happen!

A friend told me that.

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (JBggj)

640 I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?

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He blames Cruz's staff for the "Ben Carson is dropping out of the race" in Iowa fiasco.

Carson just nut shotted Cruz's campaign.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (8XRCm)

641 Rush just now: I even thought Kasich made some good points last night. I think he made his greatest case yet to be the next Postmaster General.

Hah!

Posted by: Serenity Now! at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (BDZWU)

642 I would an Fields, her boyfriend, and that other twat from anymore campaign events.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (iQIUe)

643 Trump supporters have also gone out of their way to blame conservatism, as if the ideology was a failure instead of the politicians simply lying about being conservatives.

The highest irony is them throwing around the term "cuckservative," as if they know a damned thing about conservative principles and are qualified to judge anyone on that basis.

Posted by: Matt_SE at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (9Fcph)

644 566

Cruz is also saying lets keep the CCP afloat so they can build some more of those aircraft carries to patrol the Pacific Ocean.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (q52Ma)

645 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 12:09 PM (iQIUe)

Lucky it wasn't the CRS.

Rumor has it that during the Paris riots (1968?) they kept them in hot buses and fed them blood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:13 PM (Zu3d9)

646 Mz. Lindsey strikes again!

"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham has said that he would vote for any "qualified" SCOTUS nominee put forth by President Obama or, if she were to be elected, Hillary Clinton."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 12:13 PM (Nwg0u)

647
an = ban

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 11, 2016 12:13 PM (iQIUe)

648 The good news: National Review Endorses Cruz

The good news: National Review Slams Trump

The bad news: Hardly Anybody Will Notice

Posted by: Hank at March 11, 2016 12:13 PM (xcTMW)

649 "Most folks don't believe Cruz is going to be able to "shame" the GOPers into doing anything. He's tried and hasn't accomplished it yet. I "

There's a huge difference in power between a Jr Senator and POTUS.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:13 PM (qHM3d)

650 I don't see how Trump in private not being Trump in public is comforting. As president, there will necessarily be a lot of Trump in public.

I wonder if he'll be his own press secretary.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (SEFXb)

651 Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 12:12 PM (oMdtQ)

johnny, please use some punctuation in your comments. And try to get close to following at least some of the basic rules of grammar in the English language.

I mean, we all get lazy in comment sections, but it really is difficult to read mashed together words with very little punctuation or appropriate spacing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (AkOaV)

652 Heh. Yeah, poor innocent black guy just hanging out
at a Trump rally with his Muslim friend and gay writer friend, mind his
own business... well, and flipping off people, cursing them out,
screaming in their faces, gets hit by a 75 year old (or whatever) for
getting up in his face.

Totally should be major news.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (AkOaV)

All of that is meaningless. As the old expression goes.."Your right of expression stops at my nose".That said, you missed my point. My point was directed at another example of the Lyin' Trump. Will he pay, and by doing so, live up to his word, or is this another example of the worthlessness of Trumps word?

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (aRUb8)

653 Is it really Trump supporters who are the angry ones?

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (5Me4G)

654 so is Breitbart going to fire this chick, and wont that put them in quite a quandary

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

655 Because the GOPe hates Trump is PRECISELY the reason to vote for Trump. GOPe delenda est.

Posted by: Nomennovum at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (0z+LY)

656 Cruz's stated policies are the same as every other republican politician.

Well, not exactly, but the significant thing is that when a GOPe guy says he wants to cut taxes, reduce the size of the government, and increase freedom, he says that. He doesn't explain it in constitutional terms and then go put his entire career and reputation on the line with an old fashioned filibuster to prove it.

Cruz isn't McConnell even if sometimes they say the same stuff. He's demonstrated he's not those guys by years in office. I don't think he's some gold plated savior that's going to kick ass and clean house if elected. I don't think that's possible, particularly with a very hostile congress and executive department bureaucracy fighting his every move.

But he ain't the establishment.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (39g3+)

657 No one gives a fuck about Carson's endorsement. All it proves is he isn't the man people thought he was.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (qHM3d)

658 I know that some people here hate Whole Foods and the people who shop there (I don't but I sometimes ly shop there for selected items) , but this isn't a story about Whole Foods; It's about the kindness of strangers at a very difficult time:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z245e3v

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (w4NZ8)

659 so is Breitbart going to fire this chick, and wont that put them in quite a quandary

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

Exhale, it aint worth holding your breath over.

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (aQQbl)

660 The good news and the bad news.

The good news: The National Review has ENDORSED TED CRUZ!!

The bad news: THE NATIONAL REVIEW has endorsed Cruz.

***

And Williamson has written a bullshit piece on Melania being an H1B hire and should be deported. Of course, he thinks he's cute and funny, but I think he's just an ass.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (8PbKi)

661 Rubio just dropped out of the Ohio primary, told his voters to support Kasich. What a turd.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Qvgg/)

662 654 so is Breitbart going to fire this chick, and wont that put them in quite a quandary
Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

She was VERY careful the whole time to say "I didn't see who grabbed me." which is why I didn't comment much on this story, because that struck me as... hard to believe.

If you get grabbed, your FIRST reaction is to spin around and look at the person.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (AkOaV)

663 I will gladly vote for Trump or Cruz.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

664 National Review finally, and grudgingly, endorsed Cruz.

If they would have just done that instead of the anti-Trump clusterfuck issue, they might have had a lot more positive effect.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oVJmc)

They had to get their existential scream of rage at their troglodytic benighted un-evolved GOP base done first.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (hLRSq)

665 637 Yeah, and I'm for Cruz. But what if you think Trump has a better shot at actually, you know, winning...?? This is a real quandary.

And don't go throwing meaningless February/March polls at me. If the GOPe would stop sliming him, Trump is a real threat to Hillary, Cruz much less so once the Democratic/media attack machine gears up against him.
**************************************************
Last candidate to be down 18 points in a March poll and win the election? 18 points is not fucking meaningless, it is a neon sign saying HERE BE BLOWOUT. The single worst poll I could find for last cycle in March was Romney down 12 to TFG. McCain never trailed Obama by more than 11.

Trump is trailing Romney and McCain by 6 points.

TRUMP IS TRAILING ROMNEY AND MCCAIN BY 6 POINTS.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (sQQU0)

666 The Fields story seemed... staged to me.

But I'm cynical and prone to conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (AkOaV)

667 "7 No one gives a fuck about Carson's endorsement. All it proves is he isn't the man people thought he was."

Why? Because he didn't endorse your guy?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (WnCSK)

668

So, lady MacBeth vs. Shylock... veeps choices gonna be interesting...

Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (uz/Pv)

669 Rubio just dropped out of the Ohio primary, told his voters to support Kasich. What a turd.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Qvgg/)

still going for that brokered or bust thing?

what an asshole

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (zOTsN)

670 It boils down to two things.

1) A lot of people don't think Cruz can win (I'm one of them, even though I really like the guy).
2) Some people are Christophobic: as soon as someone is openly and comfortably Christian, they freak out and run.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

This is about 99% of it. When I talk to Republican friends about who they are voting for, and the subject of Cruz comes up, this is the 2 responses I get.

But with one caveat, I do think Cruz's religious pitch is over the top and not just a "Christian being a Christian".

As a Christian, I'm not Christianphobic, but I do think some of the stuff coming out of that campaign was weird and it now makes sense knowing that the Cruz's are Pentecostal.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (W1GMT)

671 Hey! Where are the calls, as Drew asked on Twitter, for Rubio supporters to vote for Cruz in the other races?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:02 PM (8PbKi)

_______________________________

That would ruin my Get Elected Plan: 8765309, where I finally win the state of Jenny.

Posted by: Mario Tutone at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (rsudF)

672 >>> Thank you, Fen. You're always a breath of fresh air when we're being horrible.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 11, 2016 11:56 AM (1xUj/)

I think we'll need a happiness thread part 2 next week, though depending how the day goes one today might not be a bad idea...

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (hvf9s)

673 What I don't get is the idea that Trump is the answer. If it were Trump v. Marco Rubio? Yeah, I'd get Trump. But there's a guy in the race who actually is as hated by the GOP as Trump is (maybe even more so) and has the added advantage of actually understanding the problems and the conservative solutions.

It boils down to two things.

1) A lot of people don't think Cruz can win (I'm one of them, even though I really like the guy).
2) Some people are Christophobic: as soon as someone is openly and comfortably Christian, they freak out and run.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Three things. Or really, 1a) and 1b)
1b) Some think Cruz is too principled to get into a knife fight with congress, since he is a Constitutional Lawyer, whereas Trump would pull out a pen and phone.

America needs Mack the Knife.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (hTPJO)

674 *saunters into thread. drops..

🔪 🔪 🔨 🔧 🔪

Who are y'all voting for?

*slips back out

🍚

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (mEZce)

675 Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (qHM3d)

...are you the real Lauren, or just a lauren?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:17 PM (AkOaV)

676 I cannot vote Trump and live with myself.

I can, if it is the Hildabeast or teh Donald.

Will he screw things up? Sure, but in an entirely different way.

I go with the Wild Unknown!

Posted by: teh Donald TRUMP at March 11, 2016 12:18 PM (4kpbt)

677
I have been physically lifted off the ground and carried away by both the federal marshals and the French Army. LOL
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Oh -- Ahhhh.

I just died in your arms tonight.

Posted by: Cutting Crew

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 12:18 PM (kdS6q)

678 The argument for trading with China is not that their human rights violations don't matter but that it is better to trade with them and for their society to move in the direction of being a normal country rather than the open air insane asylum/cult camp it was when Mao Zedong was running things.

They have nuclear weapons and a very large army so even though we would almost certainly beat them in a war, the experience would be costly and painful for us.

Cuba, on the other hand, is not a serious threat if the US decides to use its full force against them. .

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 11, 2016 12:18 PM (MpvuV)

679 Drew, you have a darned good point. My first choice would be Cruz, followed by Trump. But I've been dismayed by the asinine blunders by the anti Trumpers.

Trump could not have chosen his enemies better if he had tried. The stupidity by the establishmentarians and other anti Trumpers is beyond belief.

many of these people are in total shock and disbelief that he has so many conservatives following him. They tell everyone that he is not a conservative.

All true. BUT, how has electing conservatives to congress over the last couple of decades actually shrunk government or helped us wit social values?

Yeah, Trump may not be the answer, but the GOPe has had two decades to fix things and by now, it is obvious that they are part of the,problem. Mt part of the solution.

Posted by: Natrium at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (SBfXp)

680 "TRUMP IS TRAILING ROMNEY AND MCCAIN BY 6 POINTS."

CRUZ IS TRAILING TRUMP BY 15 POINTS.

So...by your logic Cruz is done???

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (WnCSK)

681 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (w4NZ

That is a lovely story!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (Zu3d9)

682 If it were Trump v. Marco Rubio? Yeah, I'd get Trump.
*****

I'm of the opinion that if it came down to Trump vs. Rubio, Drew and Ace would vote Trump. and I mean, like, today. After all of the thuggery, the manhandling of women, the black guys getting sucker punched by Trump fans, the incoherent word salad that is Trump's answers on anything policy related.

Posted by: Vyce at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (h4ZaE)

683 When does Carson tell us what he thinks the huge scar on the back of Barry's head is?

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (HgMAr)

684 >>>I'm still confused as to how/why Carson endorsed Trump. Is Trump paying him?
<<<

Time share. The Emperor's Suite.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (UzPAd)

685 ...wont that put them in quite a quandary?

*****

I thought a quandary was a place for ghey guys to wash their clothes and meet like-minded people.

Posted by: Mandela fake sign language guy at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (NeFrd)

686 649
"Most folks don't believe Cruz is going to be able to "shame" the GOPers
into doing anything. He's tried and hasn't accomplished it yet. I "

Doing your job has nothing to do with "shaming" anyone.
The POTUS is sworn to uphold the Constitution and execute the laws.
Enforce the existing immigration laws and nothing new has to be said or done.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (aRUb8)

687 Jwest,

I love hanging with you, man. I think we're lost twins.

Posted by: dziwny Pole at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (lzu3y)

688 547
I'm starting to think Trump is dumb. While reading the transcripts of
his statements, he comes across as barely literate. "We're going to win
on the military." Whatever the fuck that means.

You know, we're pretty sure Sarah Palin was barely literate too.

This appears to be a trend for republicans.

I can foresee a time when only the New York based right wing writers will be literate.

Why we don't just listen to them now is a mystery to me.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (Zs4uk)

689 Can we stop the comparison of Trump to Reagan just because Reagan was once an actor?

Reagan proved his conservative bona fides over and over long before running. Listen to one of his speeches and then get back to me about how they are alike.

And Reagan did not have an out of control personality.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (SEFXb)

690 "Why? Because he didn't endorse your guy?"

No because his whole shtick was being the Very Good Christian Doctor and he endorsed a vulgarian.

Sort of undermines that persona, no?

I couldn't care less about his endorsement as it relates to Cruz.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (qHM3d)

691 I don't really know what Trump believes, other that he is awesome. What are his core convictions? Anyone know where he stands with regards to Israel? What if he gets in the White House and turns out to be Teh Debil?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (dFi94)

692 680 "TRUMP IS TRAILING ROMNEY AND MCCAIN BY 6 POINTS."

CRUZ IS TRAILING TRUMP BY 15 POINTS.

So...by your logic Cruz is done???

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (WnCSK)

Primaries aren't general elections, duh???

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (sQQU0)

693 > What I don't get is the idea that Trump is the answer.

It's really not very complicated. There is a difference between theory and reality. Cruz is all theory. Trump is grounded in reality. Cruz is utterly unelectable. Trump has a good chance of winning. Cruz has never had a real job his whole life. He's never started a business. He's an a attorney. A professional talker, a debater, a sophist, a pharisee. Think tank academics are a dime a dozen. This very blog is filled with them. Hillary is one of them.

People who have no joke started a business are rare though. They have a different perspective on things, a grounded perspective, a practical one. Everything at this point boils down to one issue - money. Immigration, healthcare, taxes, trade, jobs, these are all money issues. Nobody gives a shit about Cuba and Israel. And nobody gives a shit about ISIS either so long as they aren't a problem for us.

POTUS doesn't need to be an expert on middle eastern culture to beat their asses into submission. Macarthur didn't have some deep understanding of Japan and he didn't care, surrender, bitch. All our problems in the middle east are a result of trying to over-analyze things and engage in social engineering. Enough. If they are a problem, beat their asses into total submission. Take the oil. Done. In and out. Leave them in ruin. Oh they don't like us? Tough shit.

Posted by: Rastus at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (VjlMj)

694 "Most folks don't believe Cruz is going to be able to "shame" the GOPers into doing anything. He's tried and hasn't accomplished it yet. I "

There's a huge difference in power between a Jr Senator and POTUS.

Yeah. You are stuck at one vote when it comes to overriding a veto.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (hTPJO)

695 I thought a quandary was a place for ghey guys to wash their clothes and meet like-minded people.
Posted by: Mandela fake sign language guy at March 11, 2016 12:19 PM (NeFrd)

no, I think it's where they take granite out of the ground.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (AkOaV)

696 371
Am I right? I hope so. We'll see.....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 11, 2016 11:27 AM (ureJ1)

No...no you're not. "Hope" is not a very good plan for anything beyond buying a lottery ticket.

Posted by: Reality...Deal With It at March 11, 2016 11:29 AM (aRUb

No. No it is not. :-) I HOPE for all our sakes you are wrong if he wins.But I look at it this way: The guy does own and run a successful multi-million dollar enterprise, and has done it for a long time. He can't be totally incompetent.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (ureJ1)

697 687 Jwest,

I love hanging with you, man. I think we're lost twins.

Posted by: dziwny Pole at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (lzu3y)

Do you pee in the shower too?

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:21 PM (Zs4uk)

698 What a weird election. The GOP is probably going to nominate a lefty Democrat and the Democrats are trying to decide between a socialist and a felon. At least we get lots of entertaining press gaggles.

Posted by: MTF at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (TxJGV)

699 Ive come to the conclusion that Democrats were right about one thing. The GOP doesn't like Cruz not because of his Policy ideas (which are terrific) but rather because he has different color skin and "looks funny"... These Trump supporters that don't think an orange guy with a wig is funny looking.

Posted by: Fish at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (ES7V9)

700 Some think Cruz is too principled to get into a knife fight with congress, since he is a Constitutional Lawyer, whereas Trump would pull out a pen and phone.

Yeah I think that plays into it as well. Basically, people think Trump will get what needs done better than Cruz, even if they think Cruz is the better man and clearly the conservative of the two.

I am skeptical of these beliefs Trump would be this destroyer that obliterates his opposition in office, because I think that's his public persona. If anything, his "double down on anyone that annoys or opposes me" personality would likely cause him more trouble than do good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (39g3+)

701 "it now makes sense knowing that the Cruz's are Pentecostal. "

Fuck you too.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (qHM3d)

702 are we still fighting trump vs cruz?

the horse has left the barn, it's trump

the question now is whether to stay home

my answer is no, we must vote trump

why? because, as a "conservative," who would you rather have a conversation with about policy direction? hillary, who would rather spend her time figuring out how to exterminate you from negotiation altogether, or trump, who will at least listen?

easy call

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (VXigS)

703 Posted by: Rastus at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (VjlMj)
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Concise and correct.

Posted by: Roy at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (VndSC)

704
Is it really Trump supporters who are the angry ones?
Posted by: Phone of kari

Hey! People were guessing you might have been banned for thought crime.

Just in the tunnel?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (kdS6q)

705 Jwest, Trump seems to have a vocabulary of a couple hundred words. I'm quite sure he knows more words. He just doesn't use them, which probably works for some people.

And there is no sign that he is intellectually curious. There's no need to bring Palin into this.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (SEFXb)

706 "No because his whole shtick was being the Very Good Christian Doctor and he endorsed a vulgarian. "

Shtick??? He has lived most of his entire adult life that way. He makes an endorsment of someone you do not like and you pass judgement on an entire man's life. Nice.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (WnCSK)

707 "Is it really Trump supporters who are the angry ones?"

Stop reading my propaganda and enjoy the show.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old, unimproved, and overpriced. at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (WVsWD)

708
I cannot vote Trump and live with myself.

I can, if it is the Hildabeast or teh Donald.

Will he screw things up? Sure, but in an entirely different way.

I go with the Wild Unknown!
Posted by: teh Donald TRUMP at March 11, 2016 12:18 PM (4kpbt)
...................

It's like rolling the dice in one of his casinos, or buying a Trump steak online.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (HgMAr)

709 "The GOP is probably going to nominate a lefty Democrat and the Democrats are trying to decide between a socialist and a felon."

knowing Europe, I'd say Trump is a Christian Democrat, not a Social Democrat.

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (VXigS)

710 Nancy Reagan pre- funeral coverage LIVE on CSPAN now. Guests arriving. musical prelude starts 1015 PT Funeral at 1100PT

Posted by: Baldy at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (1SCTq)

711 National Review finally, and grudgingly, endorsed Cruz.

If they would have just done that instead of the anti-Trump clusterfuck issue, they might have had a lot more positive effect.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:04 PM (oVJmc)
---------------------------------------------
Key word is grudgingly.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (7GQM/)

712 648

I don't think getting the approval of the National Review is a good thing...of course even if it is a good thing it only reminds me how slow the GOP is on everything.

The same people who attack Trump because he does not do any "focus groups" and "deep thinking", are the same people who do so much "deep thinking" they are paralyzed by it. They could not endorse the only man who could defeat "Hitler" because they were thinking so hard about Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush.

I call that being "slow". In the old west they ended up in places like Boot Hill.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (q52Ma)

713 AlGore knows policy. In fact, Gore is a 2nd generation policy wonk/legislator on whose conscience should rest the success of public policy to screw America up so much that now in 2016 we teeter on the edge of revolution and social/cultural collapse.

Yeah, we need someone who knows policy.

We need to tear some fing policies apart and kick their little asses.

Posted by: 7Mike at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (pxwEr)

714 Nobody gives a shit about Cuba and Israel. And nobody gives a shit about ISIS either so long as they aren't a problem for us.
============================================

Kindly speak for yourself. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (dFi94)

715 Do you honestly think Turtle and Beard will block Cruz if he says "ok, assholes, you've all campaigned on overturning Obamacare for 6 years, so get writing"?

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (qHM3d)

716
Three things. Or really, 1a) and 1b)
1b) Some think Cruz is too principled to get into a knife fight with congress, since he is a Constitutional Lawyer, whereas Trump would pull out a pen and phone.

America needs Mack the Knife.
Posted by: rickb223

Cruz has also never accomplished anything, it's just a career of falling on his sword to make a point.

My guess is if Cruz became President, he would think his best moments were some vetoes ,but absolutely nothing would get done.

Someone like Scott Walker could at least point to where he took on the big interests and won.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (W1GMT)

717 "If you're pissed at the GOP and DC (and why wouldn't you be) but you think Trump is a better weapon to wield than Cruz...I think you're letting your rage get the better of you."

Cruz has a less than 0% chance to win a general. Trump has a greater than 0% chance. Not much above 0, but still above 0.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (0LHZx)

718 653
Is it really Trump supporters who are the angry ones?

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 11, 2016 12:14 PM (5Me4G)

Yes.
Next question

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 12:24 PM (aRUb8)

719 people have been saying for years that obama's lawless attitude, or at least his "target your political enemies" attitude has bled down and made those in his administration sort of feel like "hey, I can do it too, whats gonna happen to me?"

seems like trump's loudmouth brash attitude is doing the same thing

Posted by: chelsea danger at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (wKn9A)

720 "there is no sign that he is intellectually curious"

like Paglia, I find his marriage to a well-educated Slovenian pretty interesting

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (VXigS)

721 "Primaries aren't general elections, duh???

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (sQQU0)"

Wow...I'm stumped. You're right...its all over. Everyone go home.

Apparently your magic pickle has already called the race.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (WnCSK)

722 What's with all of the new posters the past few days? Hash shows up, makes one post in the thread, and disappears. Post is always reciting a boilerplate Trump talking point

Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2016 12:08 PM (zqqpJ)

Asked and answered.

It's kind of like the Dems in academia - or a much less bloody intifada - propaganda plus victim-claiming (daily reminders of how *mean* people are to poor Trump supporters) equals absolutely zero communication. It's just flooding the zone in hopes of driving everyone else away or drowning them out.

Hey, it worked for them, why not for Trump? Or the Church of the Ghost Pirate LeTrump, if your tastes run to the obscure.

I think someday, all politics will be like this. And by "someday" I of course mean "tomorrow."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (bLnSU)

723 693 must be a 0bamabot.

"Trumps is real cause I say so" isn't an argument or an answer.

Posted by: Fish at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (ES7V9)

724 As a Christian, I'm not Christianphobic,

Well, thank heavens for that. That's grand to know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (w4NZ8)

725 As Ted Cruz pointed out last night, there's no there there. What's the more likely outcome of Trump's threat to raise tariffs? That companies suddenly start making things in the US or that you pay the inflated price after the tariff is added on?

That China and Mexico and the rest shit a brick and see that the US is not a doormat to be trod on and laughed about.

And that "inflated price" that you are talking about you are already paying ... through the income taxes that are raised in order to make up for the revenue that tariffs were always intended to generate and fund the government.

This idea that "tariffs are EVIL" is so historically inaccurate and wrong that it boggles the mind that so many have come to live in this fantasy world. Tariffs are important tools that are LEGITIMATE and NECESSARY parts of our economic structure, not to mention funding.

The "borderless economy" insanity is going to come to an end one way or another, either by chaotic collapse or by reasoned policy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (zc3Db)

726 And there is no sign that he is intellectually curious. There's no need to bring Palin into this.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (SEFXb)

No sign he's intellectually curious?

Really?

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (Zs4uk)

727 >>>Exhale, it aint worth holding your breath over.

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (aQQbl)

***

It was worth quite an amount of virtual poo-flinging.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 12:26 PM (bpn7O)

728
"it now makes sense knowing that the Cruz's are Pentecostal. "

Fuck you too.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:22 PM (qHM3d)
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What she said. Er, mostly.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:26 PM (dFi94)

729 "He makes an endorsment of someone you do not like and you pass judgement on an entire man's life. Nice. "

Well that and the fact that his campaign financials stunk to high heaven. I was willing to write that off as him being taken advantage of, but now? Meh

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:26 PM (qHM3d)

730 Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

731
Is it really Trump supporters who are the angry ones?
Posted by: Phone of kari

Yes.
Next question
Posted by: Mr. Obvious

Hillary supporters are filled with love.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (FkBIv)

732 no, I think it's where they take granite out of the ground.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (AkOaV)

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I'm not sure, but I think it's where iron ore is made into steel.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (Fmupd)

733 655
Because the GOPe hates Trump is PRECISELY the reason to vote for Trump. GOPe delenda est.

Posted by: Nomennovum at March 11, 2016 12:15 PM (0z+LY)

Thats a logical fallacy.

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (aRUb8)

734 I will crawl over broken glass and barbed wire to vote against Hillary. My fear over her presidency trumps all. But I would like to not completely hate voting for the republican. If Trump has a good VP pick that will go a long way to helping me not feel horrified voting for him; the Palin gambit if you will.

*Takes a second look at Mia Love as VP*

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (hvf9s)

735 Florida and Ohio were two states that Romney lost that he had to have. On Tuesday, Cruz won't break 20% in either the Florida or Ohio primary. But somehow he's more electable than Trump?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 12:29 PM (r1fLd)

736 Haha Grammie. I know I'm the world's worst church lady.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:29 PM (qHM3d)

737 Jwest, Trump seems to have a vocabulary of a couple hundred words. I'm quite sure he knows more words. He just doesn't use them, which probably works for some people.

And there is no sign that he is intellectually curious. There's no need to bring Palin into this.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (SEFXb)
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The man needs a thesaurus.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2016 12:29 PM (7GQM/)

738 I'm not sure, but I think it's where iron ore is made into steel.
Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (Fmupd)

...that sounds right.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (AkOaV)

739 678 The argument for trading with China is not that their human rights violations don't matter but that it is better to trade with them and for their society to move in the direction of being a normal country rather than the open air insane asylum/cult camp it was when Mao Zedong was running things.

They have nuclear weapons and a very large army so even though we would almost certainly beat them in a war, the experience would be costly and painful for us.

Cuba, on the other hand, is not a serious threat if the US decides to use its full force against them. .

That's the argument, but how is that actually working out? Significant political reform has involved becoming more fascist and a bit less communist with some crony capitalism thrown into the mix. Their territorial ambitions have expanded dramatically along with their relative military and economic power.

Our next conventional World War will likely be against china, whose military has been funded by our trade policies and whose military tech has been stolen from us (fairly openly and regularly) for two decades, with little blow back because, IMO, blow back would have been bad for business. They might be able to win such a conflict in a decade or so.

All for the mountains of cheap plastic crap. I dread one of my kid's birthday parties given the crap ton of cheap, disposable junk that suddenly fills every corner of the house.

Posted by: Keith at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (nFB1w)

740

WASPs get out of the shower to pee... old MAD mag punchline.

Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (uz/Pv)

741 Will Kasich now dutifully tell his supporters to vote for Rubio in Florida?

That Jeb. He's a miracle worker.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (8PbKi)

742 Hillary supporters are filled with love.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (FkBIv)

I took the comment to be directed at repubs.How did you read it?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (aRUb8)

743 The weird thing is, I thought this election season was in the bag for conservatives. The team was deep, with a lot of starters and some pretty good back-up players. Look where we are now. I could choke my own self.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (dFi94)

744 Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:23 PM (SEFXb)
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The man needs a thesaurus.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2016 12:29 PM (7GQM/)

watch interviews of him from the '90s. He was much more well spoken.

I think he realized that short concise sentences in public worked better and were much more vague.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (AkOaV)

745 Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Finally, a club I qualify for. Yay me!!

Posted by: Blano at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (NHQQx)

746 As a Christian, I'm not Christianphobic,

Well, thank heavens for that. That's grand to know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Well, that seems to be the first thing people reach for when somebody say "Gee, I don't like it when a candidate says God told him he's going to be the annointed one"

It's "You hate Christianity!!!"

I would actually say language like that is the sort of thing most Christian Pastors would say is blasphemy and should be run out on a rail.

But I guess saying the person hates Christianity is just an easier comeback.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (W1GMT)

747 Link for Free Republic thread with free streaming links etc for now streaming Reagan funeral events. Mediate CSPAN now live coverage of arrivals and military honor guard (not sure if that is the official term)

Posted by: Baldy at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (1SCTq)

748
The man needs a thesaurus.
Posted by: redridinghood

Dinosaurs are extinct.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (FkBIv)

749 THINK IT'S MY NIACIN LEVELS,' AND BLOW OFF A TRUMP APOLOGY THREAD?

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MY RECTUM at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (XzRw1)

When did Trump ever apologize?

Posted by: Mr. Literal at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (aRUb8)

750

This thread smells like the floor of a NYC taxicab... can we stat a new one without the BS political shite and personal attacks?

Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (uz/Pv)

751 Why won't people learn from the actions of the nominees?

If this incident with someone on Trump's staff accused of grabbing the arm of some reporter had happened to Cruz, he would have fired the staffer, apologized to the reporter and everyone else and be praying with Reverend Al for forgiveness.

Trump stuck by his guy and said the girl must have been mistaken.

That's how you do it.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (Zs4uk)

752 I suspect, sadly only a suspicion, that the highly politicized DOJ is stalling until they find out who is running against Billary before they decide if she will face any consequences for her crimes.

If she's going to lose, take her out and let Biden (probably) jump in against Bernie at the last minute - the later the better because *he's* a walking dumpster fire as well.

Basically, some people scream and flail and some people plot and plan. The planners always win, ask the Celts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (bLnSU)

753 Posted by: Keith at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (nFB1w)

the entire pla is paid for (or will be in a few years, I forget the actual stats) with just the interest payments from US treasury bonds.

Because they take the currency that we send to China to buy shit and plow it back in to treasuries. Which not only gives the chinese govt a good income stream and solid foreign reserves, but allows our govt to spend even more recklessly then they otherwise would.

Japan does the same thing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (AkOaV)

754 Trade is good, and we should embrace trade. However, when one party (China) cheats, lies and steals with regards to trade, we have to fight back. That's what Trump is saying. And he's 100% correct.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (0LHZx)

755 > Yes. Next question

Ever listened to talk radio? Beck, Levin, Berry, etc. Cruz folks are foaming at the mouth. Intellectual fascists.

Posted by: Rastus at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (VjlMj)

756 LMAO. Kasich's camp responds to Rubio's gallantry.

http://bit.ly/1REbtgd

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (8PbKi)

757 Reagan proved his conservative bona fides over and over long before running. Listen to one of his speeches and then get back to me about how they are alike.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (SEFXb)

Aw man, this again? Look, Reagan was a conservative stalwart and not even I'm claiming Trump is that. But, and this is crucial, most of his life was defined around being an amazing communicator. Not just in debates, though he did well in that format, but directly to the people. He had a knack for drawing crowds and swaying people that weren't already fanatics.

Cruz does not have that ability. He is good at debating, but he lacks the mass appeal that Trump effortlessly brought. If Cruz had that ability, he wouldn't have needed Glenn Beck- and he certainly would have won evangelical votes throughout the South. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But now the fat times are over. Even if the mavens and Cruz voters insist on the banzai charge, the donors won't.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (MEHba)

758 "And that "inflated price" that you are talking about you are already paying ... through the income taxes that are raised in order to make up for the revenue that tariffs were always intended to generate and fund the government. "

If tariffs bring back production to the USA, the government never sees a dime of that money.

so, you protectionist people need to make a decision:

Are you for tariffs to force production back to the USA or are you trying to raise revenue via import duties.

You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (UBBWX)

759 Do you honestly think Turtle and Beard will block Cruz if he says "ok,
assholes, you've all campaigned on overturning Obamacare for 6 years, so
get writing"?

Openly block him? No.

Set up a situation that ensures it fails? Yes.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (oVJmc)

760 Posted by: Rastus at March 11, 2016 12:20 PM (VjlMj)

*****

I've got this one:

Up twinkles both hands, left hand "OK" sign, right index finger in the hole, "Thanks for cleaning my toilet bowl", hand binoculars, fingers in ears, tea-sipper little finger extended, thumb and index finger extended hold up to ear mouth "call me", Australian crawl, pinch nose with thumb and index finger, snap fingers three times, bunny ears hop right to left, change hands hop left to right, finger gun thumb hammer "bang, bang, bang", Three Stooges eye poke.

Posted by: Mandela fake sign language guy at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (NeFrd)

761 Palin, Christie, Carson. That's an All-Pro lineup. When Donald makes Krauthammer his bitch, it's over, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (UzPAd)

762 745
Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Finally, a club I qualify for. Yay me!!

Posted by: Blano at March 11, 2016 12:31 PM (NHQQx)

I shit standing up.....who's with me??

Posted by: Jack Lime at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (aRUb8)

763 When did Trump ever apologize?

***

Heck, he's the only Christian I know who never asks for forgiveness.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (8PbKi)

764 Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (dFi94)

There were some issues that had to be resolved on the way to the ballot box.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (hLRSq)

765 Heck, he's the only Christian I know who never asks for forgiveness.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (8PbKi)

That's because he just made a better deal with God.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (Zu3d9)

766 And Williamson has written a bullshit piece on Melania being an H1B hire and should be deported. Of course, he thinks he's cute and funny, but I think he's just an ass.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (8PbKi)

Williamson completely lost his mind over Trump. He actually quite a book about how awful Trump is. He used to be my favorite writer over at NRO, but I don't remember the last time a read an article of his. He was insulting Trump and his supporters in every one.

You can hate Trump, but if he makes you emotionally unstable, you have a problem.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (Lk67m)

767 BTW, China was bad on trade a decade or more ago.

They actually have let their currency go up a massive amount and their wages have skyrocketed.

If Trump could get in a time machine and negotiate better back then, it would have helped. Now its not as useful...we'll see i suppose.

Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (UBBWX)

768 I could choke my own self.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:30 PM (dFi94)

Don't do that!

People are lining up to do that to both of us, no need to do the work yourself!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (bLnSU)

769 Oops. I mistranslated that last one. Should be thumb and pinkie finger extended hold up to ear, mouth "call me!"

Palms up shrug. Sheepish grin. Arms akimbo.

Posted by: Mandela fake sign language guy at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (NeFrd)

770 Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (UBBWX)

Yeah ... imports will go to ZERO. Sure ...

Sheesh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (zc3Db)

771 "Set up a situation that ensures it fails? Yes."

And they'd work with Trump in this scenario?

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (qHM3d)

772 Openly block him? No.

Set up a situation that ensures it fails? Yes.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (oVJmc)

False Dichotomy Fallacy.

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (aRUb8)

773 739

Somehow 30 years ago, almost nothing was made in China and yet America survived.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (W1GMT)

774 Wow...I'm stumped. You're right...its all over. Everyone go home.
Apparently your magic pickle has already called the race.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 12:25 PM (WnCSK)
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The primary electorate is different from the general electorate. Trump is significantly worse than Romney or McCain were with the general electorate at this point in 2008 and 2012.

You're welcome to explain how Trump makes that deficit back, but enough of these groundless electability statements based on winning 36% of primary voters.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (sQQU0)

775 osted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (8PbKi)

He's the only Christian I've ever heard of refer to Holy Communion as getting his little cracker and wine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (w4NZ8)

776 Heck, he's the only Christian I know who never asks for forgiveness.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (8PbKi)
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Yeah, that's a head-scratcher. The only Christians I ever heard of who never asked for forgiveness were Two Corinthians,

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (dFi94)

777 745 Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Finally, a club I qualify for. Yay me!!
Posted by: Blano

you guys are all disgusting and I am too.

Posted by: x at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (nFwvY)

778 And Williamson has written a bullshit piece on Melania being an H1B hire and should be deported. Of course, he thinks he's cute and funny, but I think he's just an ass.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (8PbKi)

Williamson completely lost his mind over Trump. He actually quite a book about how awful Trump is. He used to be my favorite writer over at NRO, but I don't remember the last time a read an article of his. He was insulting Trump and his supporters in every one.

You can hate Trump, but if he makes you emotionally unstable, you have a problem.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (Lk67m)

I cant even read him anymore. he has become deranged

Posted by: ThunderB at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (zOTsN)

779 Stale thread and its also lunchtime, see yall later.

Posted by: IP at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (aQQbl)

780 Williamson completely lost his mind over Trump. He actually quite a book about how awful Trump is. He used to be my favorite writer over at NRO, but I don't remember the last time a read an article of his. He was insulting Trump and his supporters in every one.

You can hate Trump, but if he makes you emotionally unstable, you have a problem.

***

All this. I'm with you altogether.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (8PbKi)

781 750

This thread smells like the floor of a NYC taxicab... can we stat a new one without the BS political shite and personal attacks?
Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (uz/Pv)

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HA!

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (Fmupd)

782 761 Palin, Christie, Carson. That's an All-Pro lineup.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2016 12:33 PM (UzPAd)

The Tea Party darling, the head of the Republican Governor's Association, and the well-liked black neurosurgeon. It's actually a stronger lineup than most people have!

I mean, Carly Fiorina, Rick Perry, and Glenn Beck are okay endorsements. I guess.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (MEHba)

783 Are you for tariffs to force production back to the USA or are you trying to raise revenue via import duties.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: Harun at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (UBBWX)

to play devils advocate here -- raising tariffs slightly accomplishes two things:

1) SOME manufacturing will come back to US at it becomes cheaper to manufacture here
2) OTHER manufacturing from overseas still is done overseas, but the additional tariffs help fund our bloated, out of control, govt.

Now, frankly, I think until our regulatory tyranny in this country is dismantled, we're all pissing in to the wind WHILE whistling dixie here.

But thats just me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (AkOaV)

784 Rubio just dropped out of the Ohio primary, told his voters to support Kasich. What a turd.-

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How to turn GOP into RIP: A brokered convention that allows the GOPe to shove Mario down our throats.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (Nwg0u)

785 "Heck, he's the only Christian I know who never asks for forgiveness."

But at least he doesn't do any of that icky laying on of hands, amirite?

Posted by: Totally Not Bigoted Christian Guy at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (qHM3d)

786 The Holy Roller stuff on Drudge this morning about Cruz and his father should give you pause about his ability to win in a general. Big huge turn off to many middle-of-the-road types.

I think people just don't get what a tariff threat would be like or how it would be used to fix the trade problem with China. I find it interesting that you would really be upset if that $2 crap from Walmart now cost $2.50. Really? This would just kill America?

Besides any tariff would either NEVER happen because the Chinese would freak out, or would be short-term to show they we are serious. They will come to the negotiating table. For sure.

Which is worse? America losing jobs to China b/c of their unfair policies or a temporary tariff?

Anyway, love that Carson came out for Trump. I really think that says something about who was possibly asking Carson behind the scenes to drop out for money or another job - like Senate. Carson talked about this before he dropped out and he was disgusted by it.

No way was Trump behind that. I am guessing the GOP probably was, which connects it right to Rubio and/or Kasich. Cruz did the dirty trick thing in Iowa. Trump was the only one who played fair in that regard.

Think about Carson being involved in the healthcare overhaul once the ACA is gone, plus getting rid or at least seriously downsizing the Dept. of Education? Those were Carson's core strengths. I love it!

Posted by: K-E at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (69sTo)

787 745 Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Finally, a club I qualify for. Yay me!!

Posted by: Blano

Well, I'm not going to *those* meetings.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (oVJmc)

788 You can hate Trump, but if he makes you emotionally unstable, you have a problem.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (Lk67m)

Does that potential for emotional instability work both ways? How would the opposite manifest itself in a Trump supporter??

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (aRUb8)

789
Somehow 30 years ago, almost nothing was made in China and yet America survived.
Posted by: Belvita

Back when everything was made in Japan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (FkBIv)

790 "751 Why won't people learn from the actions of the nominees?

"If this incident with someone on Trump's staff accused of grabbing the arm of some reporter had happened to Cruz, he would have fired the staffer, apologized to the reporter and everyone else and be praying with Reverend Al for forgiveness.

"Trump stuck by his guy and said the girl must have been mistaken.

"That's how you do it."

Solid waste dumps like National Review and Red State are further beclowned, too, for buying this bullshit with their ignorant white trash mouths agape, too. The GOP richly deserved Trump, although he is too good for it.

Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (6gR7l)

791 the entire pla is paid for (or will be in a few years, I forget the actual stats) with just the interest payments from US treasury bonds.

Because they take the currency that we send to China to buy shit and plow it back in to treasuries. Which not only gives the chinese govt a good income stream and solid foreign reserves, but allows our govt to spend even more recklessly then they otherwise would.

Japan does the same thing.

Mentioning Japan raises an ironic idea. It was complained that in WW2 the Japanese sunk our ships in Pearl harbor with bombs made from US steel (true or not). In the next war our bombs will likely be made from Chinese steel (or some foreign variation there of), and the the Chinese weapons will have been designed and paid for by the good ole USA.

Posted by: Keith at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (nFB1w)

792 How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump?

*re-submitted without comment*

Posted by: Mortimer at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (maoCu)

793 >>He's the only Christian I've ever heard of refer to Holy Communion as getting his little cracker and wine.

I've heard it called "bread and red," but more as an exception, not as a rule.

Posted by: General Zod at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (Bdeb0)

794 Cruz is a boring, kinda funny/homely looking guy who comes across as very preachy. And sadly in today's world, someone like that can't win a presidential election. He's right on the issues, but that doesn't mean much in a world where the LIVs care about "can I have a beer with him" when it comes to voting choices.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (0LHZx)

795 Cruz has also never accomplished anything

That's also a concern people have, I agree. He's been a talker all his life, and talks well but can he do? Even the filibuster was talking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (39g3+)

796 How to turn GOP into RIP: A brokered convention that allows the GOPe to shove Mario down our throats.

***

If a brokered convention, we get Paul Ryan, because fuck us, that's why.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (8PbKi)

797 You can hate Trump, but if he makes you emotionally unstable, you have a problem.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:34 PM (Lk67m)

Well said.

And I agree about Williamson. He was my favorite too (Actually, the only person I read at NR), but he has lost his mind.

There are enough reasons to fight Trump without resorting to childish, ad hominem attacks.

The length of his fingers? Really? Give me a break. This isn't a damned schoolyard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (Zu3d9)

798 I think you're letting your rage get the better of you.
---------------

RAGE... ?! I'm not ENRAGED !

I'm making perfect sense! The guy's Yuuuge. He's classy and super smart. You can't say that about Cruz. Why, Cruz never ran a casino or a university in his life.

Posted by: A Strumpet at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (9mTYi)

799 LMAO. Kasich's camp responds to Rubio's gallantry.

http://bit.ly/1REbtgd
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Gov. Kasich is a bigger prick than I had him figured for.

Hope he gets his clock cleaned for that bit of graciousness.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (TnUKj)

800 Manziel ist kaput!

Posted by: Well that's disconcerting at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (qUNWi)

801 The primary electorate is different from the general electorate. Trump is significantly worse than Romney or McCain were with the general electorate at this point in 2008 and 2012.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:35 PM (sQQU0)

Yes, but MAGIC! And THE PRESS OBEY! And, and... it will be different this time!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (bLnSU)

802 That's also a concern people have, I agree. He's been a talker all his life, and talks well but can he do? Even the filibuster was talking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (39g3+)

If Ted Cruz had defended Texas in the Supreme Court, after they unilaterally arrested and deported thousands of illegal immigrants, he'd be the nominee now.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (MEHba)

803 750
This thread smells like the floor of a NYC taxicab... can we stat a new one without the BS political shite and personal attacks?
Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (uz/Pv)

They all start that way.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (zoehZ)

804 Get out of the shower to pee? Hell, I'm usually doing well if I can manage to get out of the bed to pee.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (NeFrd)

805 730 Do you pee in the shower too?

Doesn't everyone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

The one thing I know is that people who speak French do so so that people who piss in the shower can't understand what they're saying.

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (Zs4uk)

806 If a brokered convention, we get Paul Ryan, because fuck us, that's why.

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Can he run for his House seat at the same time? If no, then I doubt the GOP risks losing Paul Ryan.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)

807 Gov. Kasich is a bigger prick than I had him figured for.

Hope he gets his clock cleaned for that bit of graciousness.

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That was pretty brutal. Somehow it appeals to me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (8PbKi)

808 795 Cruz has also never accomplished anything

That's also a concern people have, I agree. He's been a talker all his life, and talks well but can he do? Even the filibuster was talking.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (39g3+)

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Ugh. I hate this shit. "Accomplished something" in the senate means passing some massive 2000 page bill like Obamacare or the Gang of 8 bill. The fact he has zero so-called accomplishments is a plus for me.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (0LHZx)

809 If a brokered convention, we get Paul Ryan, because fuck us, that's why.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:39 PM (8PbKi)
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I would not rule that out. (Eerily I was in his hometown a couple of hours ago. I did not see any banners and bunting yet, but you know those stealth candidates ....)

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (dFi94)

810 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (0LHZx)

Oh yes...in stark contrast to Hillary Clinton, who is warm and cuddly and makes everyone around her feel safe and happy....like being in grandma's kitchen just as the first batch of cookies comes out of the oven.

It's the competition that matters, not some theoretical objective standard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (Zu3d9)

811 "778 And Williamson has written a bullshit piece on Melania being an H1B hire and should be deported. Of course, he thinks he's cute and funny, but I think he's just an ass.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 11, 2016 12:16 PM (8PbKi) "

After his transformation into a flaming asshole troll, Williamson never will be taken seriously again.

Back to the substance of Ace's post as far as trade: yes, we do have the best-dressed poor folks on the planet, but they probably would prefer a job and less flashy clothing. No one bothered to ask.

Posted by: @therealdonaldtrump at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (6gR7l)

812 Is it possible that Trump picks Cruz for VP and things will look a little brighter?

Posted by: tonynoboloney at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (02AXE)

813 Yeah, that's a head-scratcher. The only Christians I ever heard of who never asked for forgiveness were Two Corinthians,
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:36 PM (dFi94)

You had a couple of supporters last night defending his never asking for forgiveness, saying it is biblical.

I'm sorry, but it's this type thing that makes people think Trump supporters are lemmings. To so many, everything he says and does are AWESOME!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (Lk67m)

814 Somehow 30 years ago, almost nothing was made in China and yet America survived.
Posted by: Belvita

Back when everything was made in Japan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Not really, but even so, I have no problem with trade with a nation like japan that honors basic human rights, is a democratic nation, strong US ally on world stage etc.

Compare that to China that tries to see how far they can push the envelope on a daily basis with respect to bringing us into WWIII.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (W1GMT)

815 >>The Holy Roller stuff on Drudge this morning about Cruz and his father should give you pause

That headline is the spotting round. If Cruz were to get the nomination, fire-for-effect begins, 'round the clock, Mark 16:18, the works.

Posted by: General Zod at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (Bdeb0)

816 NRO just endorsed Cruz for president.

Posted by: BuyMoreBrawndo at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (vaFpc)

817 I'm gettin' tired of the anti-Trump rhetoric on this site. Anyone with a brain could see all along that Trump was treating the primaries as a WWE match that he had to win by hitting people with chairs, clipboards, and anything else that was handy. Anyone who thinks this shows a phony, a hypocrite, is naive at best.

Likewise, this point about Trump being a policy idiot ... that wearies me. Who the hell cares if he has a solid position on Cuba? Policy, schmolicy. It's ridiculous. Trump comes from the outside, knows business and building, is a quick study, and has amazing instincts. Further, he is reconstructing the Jacksonian coalition that Reagan once built upon.

Ideology is fine but it gave us Iraq, it gave us nation-building. I'm a free-trader but who can deny NAFTA cost us jobs. You can't allow the neighbor kids to swim at will in your pool and get nothing in return.

Seriously, y'all should look at Trump with different eyes. Your purity is killing us.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (eXTZt)

818 Rubio dropping out of Ohio? Kasich telling him to bugger off? What???? Things are happening too quickly and I have work, damn it. Keep all the juicy stuff for the weekend.

Posted by: IC at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (a0IVu)

819 "That's also a concern people have, I agree. He's been a talker all his life, and talks well but can he do? Even the filibuster was talking."

He kept dems from forcing Texas to toss out our redistricting map.

Posted by: Totally Not Bigoted Christian Guy at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (qHM3d)

820 Can he run for his House seat at the same time? If no, then I doubt the GOP risks losing Paul Ryan.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)
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I believe he can. Wisconsin allows you to be on a state ballot as well as a federal ballot. It's why he was able to run as VP last time.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (dFi94)

821 2nd Look at Cobra Commander?
http://tinyurl.com/gv2rjom

Posted by: Iblis at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (nxGJ/)

822 The only protectionists are those shrieking that the end of the world is nigh if anyone dares enact a tariff, there is no such thing as free trade, trade is run by government at the behest of well connected and powerful businesses and those businesses don't want their cronyist gravy train to end.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (yos+4)

823
If the GOPe had supported Cruz from the start we wouldn't be in this mess. But those assholes had to push clowns like Jeb, Rubio and Romney on us. The GOPe (and Obama) are the ones who created the monster.

46,000 Pennsylvanians have switched from Democrat to Republican to vote for Trump. That's way more than would switch just to mess with the primary. The Trump phenomenon is real. The only people who deserve scorn for what's happened are the ruling class.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (csjq3)

824 Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (MEHba)

My response was to someone comparing Trump to Reagan. Notice I didn't mention Cruz once.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (Lk67m)

825 How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump?
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Bush lost the 2000 New Hampshire primary and won the state in the general election.
Kerry lost the 2004 Vermont primary and won the state in the general election.
Obama lost 13 states in the 2008 Democratic primary that he won in the general election.
John McCain lost 10 states in the 2008 Republican primary that he won in the general election.
Mitt Romney lost 10 states in the 2012 Republican primary that he won in the general election.

The merits of your argument are wanting.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (sQQU0)

826
Do you pee in the shower too?

Only if the sink is a Par 5.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (kdS6q)

827 How does Cruz beat Hillary when he can't beat Trump?

Clever, but the race isn't over yet and Cruz is gaining rapidly on Trump. Will he beat him? I doubt it. But then, I thought Cruz was done when Jeb dropped out, so what do I know? What do any of us know? Nobody's predictions are working.

Does that potential for emotional instability work both ways? How would the opposite manifest itself in a Trump supporter??

Sure, going nuts defending or attacking a politician is like wrestling with a retarded chess playing pig. Or whatever mixed analogy you prefer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (39g3+)

828 /sock

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:44 PM (qHM3d)

829
I'm gettin' tired of the anti-Trump rhetoric on this site.
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There are no bars on the doors here.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:44 PM (dFi94)

830 Is it possible that Trump picks Cruz for VP and things will look a little brighter?

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Anything is possible. Politicians are often able to put the past behind if it means something to them. I just don't see the benefit to Cruz in doing this. Very little upside, but a lot of potential downside.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:44 PM (gmeXX)

831 810 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:38 PM (0LHZx)

Oh yes...in stark contrast to Hillary Clinton, who is warm and cuddly and makes everyone around her feel safe and happy....like being in grandma's kitchen just as the first batch of cookies comes out of the oven.

It's the competition that matters, not some theoretical objective standard.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (Zu3d9)

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You know very well there is a double standard for Dems and Reps. Hillary is an accomplished lawyer, senator, secretary of state as well as a loving wife, mother and grandmother....per the MSM. On the other hand Cruz is a mean guy who uses his kids in commercials and looks funnt like....per the MSM.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:44 PM (0LHZx)

832 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 12:40 PM (NeFrd)

Two words: Texas catheter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2016 12:44 PM (Zu3d9)

833 Breaking under Too Little Too Late:

Just got an email. NR endorses Cruz.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 11, 2016 12:45 PM (ZsN9X)

834 Gov. Kasich is a bigger prick than I had him figured for.

It's not rational--but I'd be lying I said how big of a prick he is hasn't affected my willingness to consider him.

Posted by: AD at March 11, 2016 12:45 PM (QWY55)

835 I'm an evangelical Christian and Cruz bugs the heck out of me. He's smarmy, he's glib, and he's praying for the "Body of Christ" to rise up.

Doesn't Islam show us the horrors of shoving religion into politics?

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:45 PM (eXTZt)

836 >>>This thread smells like the floor of a NYC taxicab... can we stat a new one without the BS political shite and personal attacks?

Posted by: Latent Prevert at March 11, 2016 12:32 PM (uz/Pv)

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No.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 11, 2016 12:45 PM (bpn7O)

837 You had a couple of supporters last night defending his never asking for forgiveness, saying it is biblical.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:42 PM (Lk67m)
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For real? Wow.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:45 PM (dFi94)

838
Can he run for his House seat at the same time? If no, then I doubt the GOP risks losing Paul Ryan.
Posted by: SH

Depends on state law.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (kdS6q)

839 I believe he can. Wisconsin allows you to be on a state ballot as well as a federal ballot. It's why he was able to run as VP last time.

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Duh - he's already run that way. Thanks.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (gmeXX)

840 This is yuuuge.

Posted by: That guy who always says this is yuuuge... at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (La6jE)

841 The fact he has zero so-called accomplishments is a plus for me.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:41 PM (0LHZx)

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Winning five of eight arguments in front of SCOTUS is an accomplishment..... IMHO.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

842 Let it Burn (tm) is a fun strategy - but for some a whiff of smoke will send them running back to the Establishment for safety.

Trump/Cruz 2016

Posted by: Mortimer at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (maoCu)

843
I still believe in my country.

Nothing will ever dissuade that belief.

I will never EVER be ashamed of her. Any shame falls directly on the shoulders of those who would harm her.

I hate seeing what is being done to my land and mean to continue to effect a change by working in my own small way, here at the most basic level--where you CAN cause that change.

All flows from this. It's part of our own long march through the institutions to restore that shining city on a hill.

Each and every one of us can contribute in some way, no matter how insignificant it may seem.

Not an easy job,but we CAN succeed.

After all,we did it once before, and the result was the most exceptional country and people on this planet.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (P/8aq)

844 In case you haven't noticed the fighting tooth and nail, a lot of us are not fucking nationalists.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 11:05 AM (sQQU0)

Well, you should be. Otherwise America becomes Canada.

I can say this because I am Canadian.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (/i7Ua)

845 To Cruz or Trump:

Would you honestly want to spend four years with as big a prick as Kasich as your VP? Something to consider.

Posted by: AD at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (QWY55)

846 I've settled: Trump/Rubio. That's the ticket.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (eXTZt)

847 There are no bars on the doors here.
Posted by: grammie winger
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What?!
*racks tin cup back and forth on the cell bars*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (9mTYi)

848 Where are these Trump fans getting that he has mass appeal? Among them he certainly does, but everyone else?

Trump has a -39 net favorability rating, the largest margin out of every other candidate

Posted by: DJ at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (+2t20)

849 after Obama, America is trying to find its center

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (VXigS)

850 If Trump loses, it will be conservative defections.

I personally don't buy into that, I think it's a small cabal of DC Elites that will truly follow through on that, but I do think on trade and immigration Trump nets a lot of new voters because both parties have basically been in cahoots on this and it is killing America. And Trump will also keep most conservatives on board.

It's a gamble, but looking at Ted Cruz as the only real alternative, Cruz would get smoked in a general election for the religious stuff.

I would gladly have either as my President over Hillary.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (W1GMT)

851 I'm an evangelical Christian and Cruz bugs the heck out of me. He's
smarmy, he's glib, and he's praying for the "Body of Christ" to rise up.

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I'm an evangelical Christian too. I have to say, I've never seen an evangelical Christian put "The Body of Christ" in condescending parentheses.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (dFi94)

852 Bush lost the 2000 New Hampshire primary and won the state in the general election.
Kerry lost the 2004 Vermont primary and won the state in the general election.
Obama lost 13 states in the 2008 Democratic primary that he won in the general election.
John McCain lost 10 states in the 2008 Republican primary that he won in the general election.
Mitt Romney lost 10 states in the 2012 Republican primary that he won in the general election.

The merits of your argument are wanting.
Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (sQQU0)

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A better analysis would be to look at swing states won/lost in the primary vs won/lost in the general. Vermont doesn't mean shit since it will go to the Dem no matter who wins what in the primary. Same with Texas, same with California, Utah, etc.

What matter is Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, New Hampshire, maybe a couple of others.

I don't know if there is any correlation between losing the primary in a swing state and losing the general in the same state. It would be interesting to see how that has played out over the past few elections.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (0LHZx)

853 830 "I just don't se the benefit to Cruz in doing this. Very little upside, but a lot of potential downside."

If Cruz does not win the nomination, his only chance to ever be President will by being Trump's VP

Posted by: zzBottom at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (LxBcy)

854 Rubio dropping out of Ohio? Kasich telling him to bugger off? What???? Things are happening too quickly and I have work, damn it.

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There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area we call the Trump-light Zone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 11, 2016 12:48 PM (Nwg0u)

855 NRO is pathetic. A bunch of Pajama Boy conservatives, pure as the driven salt.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:48 PM (eXTZt)

856 It's a gamble, but looking at Ted Cruz as the only real alternative, Cruz would get smoked in a general election for the religious stuff.

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Just like W did.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:48 PM (gmeXX)

857 Is the DRUDGE headline about Cruz true or just 'made up stuff'?

Posted by: Myshiba at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (4qOWG)

858 The fact he has zero so-called accomplishments is a plus for me.

Well the concern is not "few accomplishments" in terms of legislation - the less congress does, the better, I think. For me its "can he do more than talk?"

I suspect he can. But I'm always very uncomfortable with someone seeking a top level job they have no practical experience in. I wouldn't hire a CEO if they've never run a business. I don't like hiring a president who has no real executive experience in government.

Running a few committees doesn't count.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (39g3+)

859 I'm an evangelical Christian too. I have to say, I've never seen an evangelical Christian put "The Body of Christ" in condescending parentheses.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (dFi94)
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I think it's in Two Corinthians somewhere.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (sQQU0)

860 We reached the "state counterfactuals and whine bitterly" stage like four months ago. I imagine if the Kardashians were older and the Web had gone full swing earlier, 1992 would look a lot like this.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (bLnSU)

861 I'm an evangelical Christian too. I have to say, I've never seen an evangelical Christian put "The Body of Christ" in condescending parentheses.

Sorry if I sounded dismissive of the Body of Christ. What I'm dismissive of is injecting it into politics.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (eXTZt)

862 My response was to someone comparing Trump to Reagan. Notice I didn't mention Cruz once.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:43 PM (Lk67m)

Yeah, I noticed, and my response was talking about Reagan as more than some kind of avatar for conservative ideology. You can argue that both parts are important, which I would agree with, but at the clinch Cruz lacks the additional skills to be anything more than a polished Rick Santorum.

Which isn't fair- to Santorum, who had ferocious competition from Newt Gingrich in his primaries and had far fewer resources than Cruz does.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (MEHba)

863 "I've never seen an evangelical Christian put "The Body of Christ" in condescending parentheses."

Yep. I've heard pastors talk of the Body of Christ rising up numerous times, and never with scare quotes.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (qHM3d)

864 Hmm. I guess I am one of the odd people here. I do not care how good a Christian a political candidate is. It really isn't one of my priorities.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (hLRSq)

865 The left is gathering its twitter torches

Caitlyn Jenner says in a video released Friday that Clinton is a 'f--king liar,' and claims the U.S. will be doomed if they put her back in the White House.

'Just because I'm a woman now doesn't make me all of a sudden liberal,' said Jenner, who transitioned to become a woman last summer. 'I would never, ever, ever vote for Hillary [Clinton].'

'If Hillary becomes president, the country is over,' she added.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (mEZce)

866 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (Fmupd)

867 859 I'm an evangelical Christian too. I have to say, I've never seen an evangelical Christian put "The Body of Christ" in condescending parentheses.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (dFi94)
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I think it's in Two Corinthians somewhere.
Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (sQQU0)

I'm feeling really left out here.

Posted by: The third Corinthian at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (0mRoj)

868 2012- "As a lifelong Republican I find myself troubled by Mitt Romney being almost too Republican."

2016- "As a lifelong Christian, I find myself troubled by Ted Cruz being almost too much of a Christian."

It's like concern troll Mad Libs™

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (NeFrd)

869 Wake me up when there is a #NeverCruz movement started by the GOPe.

Heck, let me know when there's a #NeverHillary! movement.

#NeverTrump has all the earmarks of the typical Democrat-conceived Republican voter suppression effort that's run every major election.

And unfortunately, we always have people on our side who fall for it.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (0cMkb)

870 "When did Trump ever apologize?"

never apologize mister, it's a sign of weakness.

Posted by: Cpt Nathan Brittle, US Cavalry at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (QJ4jI)

871 Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (sQQU0)
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That made me laugh. Thanks

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (dFi94)

872 I'm going to get THE BEST people. I'm going to get myyyy "casino" advisors to take a look at the DoJ. Who better to give me advice on federal prosecutors, judges and the FBI? Huh? And Vlad is offering advice on foreign policy and military issues. We may even get Ed Snowden back to straighten out that spying stuff. Donald Jr. has already expressed interest in becoming CIA director. He loves all that 007 and Bourne stuff.
I'll leave all boring budget shit to my old pals like Mitch and Harry. That young prick Ryan better stay the hell out of my hair. And Rush, we'll have to work out different weekends between you and Bill for golf and prostitutes. I'll bring the Viagra and Cialis.

Posted by: Bada Bing at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (uNpJu)

873 I don't know if there is any correlation between losing the primary in a swing state and losing the general in the same state. It would be interesting to see how that has played out over the past few elections.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (0LHZx)
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I agree. I think that some actual analysis is required, not just LOSE PRIMARY LOSE IN GENERAL robot talk.

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (sQQU0)

874 Look out! I've had my triple shot of au contraire today.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (La6jE)

875 I see that MoveOn.org has organized a protest to happen at a scheduled Trump rally on the University of Illinois Chicago campus today.

Social media is being used, of course, to generate participation and enthusiasm. Supposedly 10,000 protesters are interested in attending.

Things are gonna get strange, aren't they, with these protests happening at anything Trump. The protesters do it to invite "hate speech" and violence. They are there because the press loves conflict, and the press is on their side against Trump.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (U6f54)

876 Cruz is the club for open borders/growth anointed by god lol. No go for me. If all Trump does is secure the border, that is more than most other republicans have done for us. Sad state of where we are.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (/Owtt)

877 If Cruz does not win the nomination, his only chance to ever be President will by being Trump's VP

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Completely false. Regardless, if his team says Trump loses, why join a loser (I don't know they would say that of course). It may be his best chance, but it could also ruin any future political career too.

I think it would be considered, but ultimately I don't think Cruz would take it. I actually hope he wouldn't. If Trump were to be President, I want as many conservative Senators opposing him as needed.

Posted by: SH at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (gmeXX)

878 I am actively hoping that Kasich loses in OH. What an ass to tweet out that he was going to win OH without Rubio's support.

I would love to see that son-of-a-mailman get dumped like so much junk mail.

Posted by: Cheri at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (oiNtH)

879 On another note, this is a disturbing cartoon of Hillary, but accurate as far as the huge problems with her.

"Lipstick On A Pig":

http://iotwreport.com/lipstick-on-a-pig/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (w4NZ8)

880 It's a gamble, but looking at Ted Cruz as the only real alternative, Cruz would get smoked in a general election for the religious stuff.

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Just like W did.
Posted by: SH

Bush never got weird like Cruz did about it.

He identified as a Christian for turning his life around, and I believe he was sincere about it.

Why is all the other candidates can seem to be able to handle identifying as a Christian without looking like a Hollywood stereotype?

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (W1GMT)

881 "857 Is the DRUDGE headline about Cruz true or just 'made up stuff'?"

Who cares? The point is Drudge is trying to otherise him for being an icky apostolic.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (qHM3d)

882 I'm an evangelical Christian and Cruz bugs the heck out of me. He's smarmy, he's glib, and he's praying for the "Body of Christ" to rise up.

Doesn't Islam show us the horrors of shoving religion into politics?

Concern:

[ X ]Noted
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (39g3+)

883 Winning five of eight arguments in front of SCOTUS is an accomplishment..... IMHO.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

If you are hiring a Lawyer? Yup...

Problem is that the President is Chief EXECUTIVE, not chief Lawyer...

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (RK8AH)

884 Nood, but it's an open thread.

Posted by: HH at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (DrCtv)

885 Electing Donald Trump is to fixing the economy as sticking your head in a wood chipper is to giving yourself a root canal.

Posted by: cornbred at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (GWWdR)

886 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.

Posted by: Soona

*****

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (NeFrd)

887 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.
Posted by: Soona

Fapping removes them.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (hTPJO)

888 "pajama boy conservatives"

bon mot, but I'm sure some of those folks put money where their mouth is and help in other ways

what they should've done when they say trump running away with it is demonstrate how they can sway the white Catholic vote, which is a big swing vote -- in return for certain things

but no, that would've been lying down with dogs or something

Mt 10:16

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (VXigS)

889 >>>I can say this because I am Canadian.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (/i7Ua)

***

When you say that, say it with pride!

I! AM! CANADIAN!

Posted by: Molson's at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (bpn7O)

890 Sorry if I sounded dismissive of the Body of Christ. What I'm dismissive of is injecting it into politics.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (eXTZt)
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No problem. I get that, and to a large extent even agree with it.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (dFi94)

891 866 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.

Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (Fmupd)

__________________________________________

It hasn't happened yet, and I furiously check daily.

Posted by: That Guy Who Furiously Checks at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (rsudF)

892 Goose Gossage is a grumpy pants.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (2cS/G)

893 This has become a crisis. I will no longer buy Trump brand steaks. I will no longer stay in Trump hotels or buy Trump brand penis enlargers. Join me.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (/f6Nd)

894 Han anyone seen a recent poll for Ohio?

We vote soon, and I still don't know who to vote for. I'd like to vote for Cruz, but if it's actually better for Cruz if I vote for...gahhh...Kasich -- I'll do that.

If Cruz is within, say, 10% of Trump, I'll vote for Cruz and roll the dice. But the only poll I've seen is months old, and useless.

Posted by: Pastafarian at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (LqrRo)

895 Things are gonna get strange, aren't they, with these protests happening at anything Trump. The protesters do it to invite "hate speech" and violence. They are there because the press loves conflict, and the press is on their side against Trump.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 11, 2016 12:52 PM (U6f54)

----

Yeah... Im waiting for one of those little brave protestors to charge the Secret Service Line or throw a pie at Trump and then turn around and blame......

...oh..... wait. Nevermind. Conservative blog reporters already did that.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (8XRCm)

896 "Bush never got weird like Cruz did about it.
"

You know, there are also pictures of every other damn candidate in the race being prayed over, excluding openly atheist Sanders.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (qHM3d)

897 If Cruz does not win the nomination, his only chance to ever be President will by being Trump's VP

___________

+1

Not every conservative has the "gifts" to be President, Cruz might have the ideology part down but he doesn't have the personality to win 51% of Americans.

He's a modern day Jesse Helms.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (W1GMT)

898 "
Hmm. I guess I am one of the odd people here. I do not care how good a
Christian a political candidate is. It really isn't one of my
priorities."

you are not alone...

the best Christians i know are the ones that don't make a big fuss about it: they just let their lives be their witness.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (QJ4jI)

899 I suspect he can. But I'm always very uncomfortable with someone seeking a top level job they have no practical experience in. I wouldn't hire a CEO if they've never run a business. I don't like hiring a president who has no real executive experience in government.

Running a few committees doesn't count.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:49 PM (39g3+)

_____

Obama didn't run anything, and he has done more to advance socialism in 8 years than anyone else. What has Bernie run? What has Hillary run? Liberals don't give a fuck about experience. They care about "is this candidate a leftist, yes/no"? Wish the right would realize that's what matters, no how many departments a candidate has run.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (0LHZx)

900 866 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.

Now With Stimulating Bumps - For Her Pleasure!

Posted by: jwest at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (Zs4uk)

901 Yes, Cruz is so hated by the establishment that a Bush and a Barbour have joined his team.

No sale.

Posted by: Missbosslady at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (QOnyI)

902 Its truly strange to me seeing how radically the culture has turned not just away from but against Christianity. Not that long ago, presidents prayed, talked about God, referred to their faith, praised Jesus, etc in speeches regularly. Even bill Clinton did it. Even Barack Hussein Obama did it when he campaigned in the south in 2008.

Now, its considered bizarre, offputting, and even scary when a candidate does.

I'm not condemning anyone or angry just sitting back, looking at culture, bemused at how fast its happened and sad for what's coming in the future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (39g3+)

903
I'm feeling really left out here.
Posted by: The third Corinthian

We know what you mean.

Posted by: The fifth Beatle and the fourth stooge at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (FkBIv)

904 That made me laugh. Thanks
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:51 PM (dFi94)
*********************************************

Any time!

Posted by: fightwinger at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (sQQU0)

905 "Caitlyn" Jenner for Press Secretary

hahahaha

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:55 PM (VXigS)

906 The man needs a thesaurus.
Ted Cruz doesn't believe in dinosaurs.

BTW, nood open thread. I assume to be nonpolitical so stay here for the Cruz/Trump "debate".

Posted by: andycanuck at March 11, 2016 12:55 PM (WOyz5)

907
He's a modern day Jesse Helms.
Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (W1GMT)

But you're the Christian who's not Christianphobic, right?

Concern noted.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:56 PM (w4NZ8)

908 You know, there are also pictures of every other damn candidate in the race being prayed over, excluding openly atheist Sanders.

Posted by: Lauren

This goes way beyond a "group prayer"

You really think a Pentocostal is going to play well nationwide when people see a typical service? Snake handling and speaking in tongues.

Even Cruz's logo is a carbon copy of the Pentocostal Church's logo.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:56 PM (W1GMT)

909 Yep. I've heard pastors talk of the Body of Christ rising up numerous times, and never with scare quotes.
Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (qHM3d)

Aside from the very basic fact that "body of Christ" is, like, in the Bible.

I will assume that anyone who doesn't know this or understand what it means is *at best* a brand new Christian.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (Lk67m)

910 Cruz is the smartest guy out there. He's won 5 out of 9 Supreme Court cases. He's a true believer Christian.

I oughtta like him but for some reason, I don't. Just can't seem to generate any enthusiasm for him. Worst of all, I am certain he cannot beat Hillary.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (eXTZt)

911 Winning five of eight arguments in front of SCOTUS is an accomplishment..... IMHO.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 11, 2016 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

It depends on what the cases were and what the arguments were. Also, the SCOTUS has not been the epitome of logic and reason so winning there is not necessarily an indication of anything particularly positive.

This is not a swipe at Cruz but just a sober evaluation of what the SCOTUS really is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (zc3Db)

912 866 Peeing in the shower will put warts on your dick.
Posted by: Soona at March 11, 2016 12:50 PM (Fmupd)

I thought that's what happened if you rub a frog on it.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (0mRoj)

913 Doesn't Islam show us the horrors of shoving religion into politics?

No.

If you're an evangelical Christian, have you not noticed that Jesus is KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS?

Think that might have a little something to do with political systems?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (uURQL)

914
Thanks, Ben. For a neurosurgeon, you sure are dum.

Note to self: Ben Carson doesn't seem to know what "conservative" means. For that matter, neither does Jeff Sessions. Speaking of which, did he get into WITSEC? he seems to have disappeared.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (1hM1d)

915 Pentecostal =/= snake handling, dumbass.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 12:58 PM (qHM3d)

916 Yep, mainstream Pentecostals are snake handlers. I had fun with the snakes last Sunday.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 12:58 PM (Lk67m)

917 "Aside from the very basic fact that "body of Christ" is, like, in the Bible.

I will assume that anyone who doesn't know this or understand what it means is *at best* a brand new Christian.
Posted by: chique d'afrique"

What a ridiculous mis-reading of my point. You know what else is in the Bible? Cutting off a woman's hand for grabbing a guy's nuts in a fight. You for that? Should Cruz start pushing that?

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 12:58 PM (eXTZt)

918 He's a modern day Jesse Helms.
Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (W1GMT)

But you're the Christian who's not Christianphobic, right?

Concern noted.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

When did I say anything about Jesse Helm's religion?

You're starting to sound like some SJW on the Left looking for sleights.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:58 PM (W1GMT)

919 I truly feel the anti-Christian turn is for a reason. Dunno why but hearts are being turned and hardened. Maybe it has to in order for God's design to happen.

We had a good run. Sometimes I feel very Calvinist about things.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 11, 2016 12:58 PM (q+YDg)

920 Snake handling

I've been to Pentecostal Services. There was no snake handling in them.

Your concern is noted.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (w4NZ8)

921 if Cruz gets the nom, anyone to the right of Trump would have to come out to vote in record-setting epic numbers in order to have even a prayer of winning swing states

it's interesting: Trump has high negatives, but I'd bet if you ask a large random sample, people would say he defines the center of American politics, certainly more than Cruz or (perhaps) Hillary

Hillary is trying to seize the mantle of the center

don't give it to her

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (VXigS)

922 I! AM! CANADIAN!

Posted by: Ted Cruz at March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (QJ4jI)

923 No republican wants actual open borders or actual free trade, they want government controlled borders and government controlled trade because that's the only way they can succeed, take away daddy governments protection and all those "free marketers" would fail miserably.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (yos+4)

924 *racks tin cup back and forth on the cell bars*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2016 12:47 PM (9mTYi)

Attica!..Attica!. Kill Whitey!

Posted by: Nick "The Slasher" MaGurk at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (aRUb8)

925 The media hasn't started in on Ted Cruz yet. But if he somehow got the chance to go against Hillary, they will. For a preview, check the front page of Drudge.

Utterly unelectable.

Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (2kjDY)

926 I thought that's what happened if you rub a frog on it.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (0mRoj)

__________________________

Is 'frog' another word for Lena Dunham?

Posted by: NotCoach, HotAir Shithead at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (rsudF)

927 "If you're an evangelical Christian, have you not noticed that Jesus is KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS? Think that might have a little something to do with political systems?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely"

Jesus is the Lord of Lords today. But who realizes that except for believers? One day, it'll be out in the open. Every knee shall bow. But that day isn't here yet. He's king of an invisible kingdom which is growing.

I'm all for the Body of Christ. I'm not for trying to thrust it onto the world stage before the Son of God Himself makes his move to collect his bride.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (eXTZt)

928 Pentecostal =/= snake handling, dumbass.

Posted by: Lauren

it's most certainly a part of many Pentocostal churches, far more than any other denomination

same with speaking in tongues

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:01 PM (W1GMT)

929 You really think a Pentocostal is going to play well nationwide when
people see a typical service? Snake handling and speaking in tongues.
=============================================

Oh my. I don't know where to begin. Maybe I'll go get some ice tea. Take a little break.

Shoot. Now where did I put my snake?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 01:01 PM (dFi94)

930 Doesn't Islam show us the horrors of shoving religion into politics?

Nope.

Islam tells us about Islam.

It has zero to do with Christianity.

Well, except to kill Christians. ISIS is doing quite the job on that front.

But, thanks for your concern.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 11, 2016 01:01 PM (0cMkb)

931 Now, its considered bizarre, offputting, and even scary when a candidate does.

I'm not condemning anyone or angry just sitting back, looking at culture, bemused at how fast its happened and sad for what's coming in the future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (39g3+)

I don't think that's a fair reading of what happened this primary. There is a weird strain of Christian ideology that most people shy away from, but are most evangelicals turning away from God? I wouldn't say so.

Is the culture much coarser and far less tolerant... that is certainly true. I would have laughed at anyone who considered Trump a possibility even four years ago. But a lot happened since then.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (MEHba)

932 927 I thought that's what happened if you rub a frog on it.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 12:57 PM (0mRoj)

__________________________

Is 'frog' another word for Lena Dunham?
Posted by: NotCoach, HotAir Shithead at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (rsudF)

I would never besmirch frogs in such a fashion.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (0mRoj)

933 Here's a typical Pentecostal service:

30 minutes of usually bad praise and worship music.

45 minutes of sermon, occasionally punctuated by an "amen"

15 minutes of people coming to the alter to be prayed over and anointed with basically imperceptible murmers in tongues.

A mass exodus to IHOP

THE HORROR.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (qHM3d)

934 919
He's a modern day Jesse Helms.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 12:54 PM (W1GMT)

What are the similarities in behavior between Cruz and Helms that you're basing that claim on?
Just curious.

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (aRUb8)

935 so, again:

if it's Trump vs Hillary, and you stay home out of pique or whatever, you are demonstrably enabling a radical Leftist presidency that will work very hard to exterminate you from any effect on American political life

the chance to make Cruz viable was a long time ago

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (VXigS)

936 What is truly driving the Trump phenom is not the anger; it's not that Trump is a brilliant statesman or policy wonk; It's just pure resignation.
The average Trump supporter intuitively knows that nothing will change--or that things will just keep getting worse- if any establishment type of either party gets to be president. He understands that nothing is going to change and that we are going to go through this every four years every time it's time to choose a president. Maybe he cares too much...or not at all. It's like the line in Tom Cruise's "Risky Business.",
"Sometime's you just have to say, 'What the fuck?"

Trump supporters are saying, "What the fuck?"

Posted by: JoeF. at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (foVdW)

937 The media hasn't started in on Ted Cruz yet. But if he somehow got the chance to go against Hillary, they will. For a preview, check the front page of Drudge.

Utterly unelectable.
Posted by: Just Sayin'

Of course, but people are so wedded to their candidate they will continue to spin that this is no big deal.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (W1GMT)

938 No problem. I get that, and to a large extent even agree with it.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 12:53 PM (dFi94)

Nothing wrong with talking about the body of Christ in a Christian gathering, even if you're a politician. Especially if you're a Christian. This country is going to hell in a handbasket from a Christian perspective, so I'm completely fine with telling Christians to get involved. We have as much of a right as other citizens to.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (Lk67m)

939 I handled my snake in church once, but they threw me out and got a restraining order.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (0mRoj)

940 Shoot. Now where did I put my snake?

I think we may be getting into some typical moron humor to follow. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (w4NZ8)

941 Grammie, I think you must have left him with the levitating pastor at the last revival.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (qHM3d)

942 Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:01 PM (W1GMT)

Moving the goal posts I see.
Trump supporter?

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 01:04 PM (aRUb8)

943 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (w4NZ

And my prediction came true; Thanks, Insomniac. :^)

If only I could predict the lottery.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (w4NZ8)

944 It's just pure resignation.

Trump supporters are saying, "What the fuck?"

Posted by: JoeF. at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (foVdW)

People don't fight back against overwhemingly negative media attention out of resignation. At best they keep their heads down.

This is the kind of anger that collapses governments. At worst it can bury nations, and not just the one it started in.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (MEHba)

945 racks tin cup back and forth on the cell bars

I have a poem that I want to share

Images
Dark and lonely on the summer night.
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking - Do he bite?
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Slip in his window,
Break his neck!
Then his house
I start to wreck!
Got no reason --
What the heck!
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L ...
My land - lord ...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (39g3+)

946 THE HORROR.
Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (qHM3d)

I know, as opposed to having an SJW service in some denominations. Truly horrific.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (Lk67m)

947 943 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:03 PM (w4NZ

And my prediction came true; Thanks, Insomniac. :^)

If only I could predict the lottery.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (w4NZ

I aim to please.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (0mRoj)

948 There's a difference between saying, "Practicing Christians, Catholic and Protestant, should support me to achieve our goals" and saying, "It's time for the body of Christ to rise up and support me." (And, yes, I know the "body of Christ" means the Church and not literally Jesus.)

Posted by: andycanuck at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (WOyz5)

949 There may be two Trumps---and I have heard several people say that they know or have met Trump in private and that he's actually an intelligent and nice guy.

But the issue is you never know which Trump will show up; the intelligent nice guy, or the blustering ignorant asshole?

Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 11, 2016 01:06 PM (Sda6L)

950 "Doesn't Islam show us the horrors of shoving religion into politics? "

it shows us the horrors of establishing an official state church and putting it in charge

but that is not the only way religion can relate to politics

for example, this is a very wise political move: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

that is a political system that EVERYONE should be glad to live under, even atheists

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 01:06 PM (VXigS)

951 >>>... as long as it takes to force Apple to start building iPhones in America.
.....

Since when was it government's role to force businesses to do something?

Let's set aside the ideological problem. Trump is proposing import tariffs. The net intended effect is to offset the wage disparity between the U.S. and other countries with the assumption being that this will have no impact on the retail price and number of units sold.

That's the same logic that Democrats are using about minimum wage increases. Look how well that's worked out everywhere it's been tried: lower employment, higher prices, companies going out of business or leaving the market and doing business elsewhere.

Keep shouting the same line that the unions have for decades about American's deserving higher wages and guaranteed jobs without regard to markets, costs, productivity, or quality.

Enjoy the entirety of the U.S. becoming Detriot.

When will you learn: markets control prices. Period. Not governed, not taxes, not the President, not even companies themselves. Especially not unions or belligerent, entitled idiots ranting about living wages and other made up terms they don't understand.

Posted by: Damiano at March 11, 2016 01:07 PM (XItbt)

952
Utterly unelectable.

Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (2kjDY)

So now the standard...well YOUR standard, seem to be family members?How does that make any sense?

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 01:07 PM (aRUb8)

953 I'm all for the Body of Christ. I'm not for trying to thrust it onto the world stage before the Son of God Himself makes his move to collect his bride.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 11, 2016 01:00 PM (eXTZt)

Look at American society today. It has taken its Christian heritage and divorced it from politics, embracing secularism, multiculturalism, and a bunch of other -isms. The fruit of that is innocent blood shed in the millions, broken families, thieving from the elite class.

The idea that you can fix that WITHOUT religion is preposterous.

Secularism creates a void that it cannot fill; that is why Islam is pouring into it.

Perhaps it's an open question whether Christianity can be placed back into America's void ... but if we do not, this society will not continue on.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 11, 2016 01:07 PM (uURQL)

954 Other endorsements:

Phyllis Schlafly for Trump
Nat Review for Cruz

Interesting to me how they're sorting themselves. Looks initially like neocons go Cruz, paleos go Trump.

Posted by: Bigby's Futile Gesture at March 11, 2016 01:07 PM (3ZtZW)

955 "I'm completely fine with telling Christians to get involved. We have as much of a right as other citizens do."

as usual, chique is right

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 01:07 PM (VXigS)

956 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (w4NZ

Hey, Fenelon, the recently deceased Southern author Pat Conroy said he once visited a town in the South that was so backward the Episcopalians handled snakes.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 11, 2016 01:08 PM (u0lmX)

957 I'll just leave this here before moving upstairs to the next thread. Scott Walker is an evangelical Christian. He is the son of a Baptist preacher although he attends a non-denominational church ( an off-shoot of Elmbrook Church, once led by Stuart Briscoe, for those who are familiar). I think he is a good example of a man who quietly yet unashamedly lives out his faith while serving in the public arena.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 11, 2016 01:08 PM (dFi94)

958 Belvita, I have been a Pentecostal most of my life. Snake handling is incredibly fringe. I never heard of it until I moved to the US. I have never seen it or heard a first hand account of it.

For speaking in tongues: See Acts and 1 Corinth.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 01:08 PM (Lk67m)

959 "When will you learn: markets control prices. Period. "

preach it, brother

the minimum wage should be zero, for example

Posted by: Feh at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (VXigS)

960 Handling your snake in the shower will put warts on it.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (NeFrd)

961 But the issue is you never know which Trump will show up; the intelligent nice guy, or the blustering ignorant asshole?

Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 11, 2016 01:06 PM (Sda6L)

I can field this one. Blustering asshole. Drive Hillary out of her mind. She can be called a liar all the live long day, but a fragile, senile failure who oversaw years of worldwide calamity? Trump is equally sensitive to his social position, but the difference is he's a powerful man looking down. Hillary is nothing without Bill and can't stand on her own two feet.

But I would REALLY like to see this guy make a return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (MEHba)

962 And one or two of the gospel (Jesus's own words).

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (Lk67m)

963 Where does somebody get the idea that snake handling is typical in Pentecostal service and what typical Pentecostal services were they attending-some little church in Lower Podunkum that had 20 members?

I gotta say, I find the while snake handling thing odd. I think it goes against the Scripture "Thou shalt not temp the Lord they God." I'm not debating the Christianity of the participants; i just think they're on the wrong track. and i would be very surprised if Ted cruz does snake handling in his church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (w4NZ8)

964 "tariffs"

The focus is more than tariffs. Trump's main idea is three fold:
- that our trade deals do not favor us
- the elected's use of the word free trade is oxymoronic.
- our trading partners aren't playing fair when devaluing their currencies

Posted by: mossomo at March 11, 2016 01:10 PM (3Vph4)

965 We had a good run. Sometimes I feel very Calvinist about things.

One of us... one of us...

The flip side to predestination is that God's in charge when bad things happen too, and He's working it all out according to His sovereign will. People in WW2, black plague era Europe, the fall of Rome, and all the other horrendous times in history saw what was happening and cried "why Lord?" too. We'll get through these times, and in the end, God will be glorified and we made like Christ.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:10 PM (39g3+)

966 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:05 PM (39g3+)

Ahhh... Langston Hughes! One of my favorite social justice poets.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 11, 2016 01:11 PM (aRUb8)

967 temp=tempt.

Otherwise it sounds like I was protesting against assigning God to some temporary employment agency. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:11 PM (w4NZ8)

968 Here's a typical Pentecostal service:

30 minutes of usually bad praise and worship music.

45 minutes of sermon, occasionally punctuated by an "amen"

15 minutes of people coming to the alter to be prayed over and anointed with basically imperceptible murmers in tongues.

A mass exodus to IHOP

THE HORROR.
Posted by: Lauren

You forgot the part where there is speaking of tongues and God tells the Cruz family Ted will be the Annointed one

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:11 PM (W1GMT)

969 "Shoot. Now where did I put my snake?"

you're already lost the new husband?

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2016 01:12 PM (QJ4jI)

970 We'll get through these times, and in the end, God will be glorified and we made like Christ.

Nicely said; Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 11, 2016 01:12 PM (w4NZ8)

971 Nope, I put speaking in tongues right there at the end.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:12 PM (qHM3d)

972 "There are two Trumps"

You mean to say that the belligerent, angry, juvenile Destructor that people support is not actually the guy we'll all end up with? Well actually get someone else entirely that we have not seen, have no idea what his real views and policies are, and is "cerebral", just like the reputed great thinker and Nobel Laureate we have in the White House now?

Huh. Remember when voting for someone because you supported their views espoused in a campaign and finding out after that they were an entirely different person was considered a bad thing?

Posted by: Damiano at March 11, 2016 01:13 PM (XItbt)

973 I'm with the Ted Cruz is "unelectable" crowd. I've always thought this. I respect his intellect, and I instinctively agree with much of what he says and a lot of what he believes. And I do think that if actually elected, he would do a good job.
But he just comes across as smug and smarmy and his Jesusland shtick just won't play across most of the country. His pleading eyes remind me of Glenn Beck, who I loathe, and his voice is whiny. I'm sorry if that makes me sound superficial, but it's how I believe he will be perceived by most people when--if he gets the nomination--he is introduced by the loathesome media to the part of the American public that hasn't really been paying attention thus far.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 11, 2016 01:13 PM (foVdW)

974 949
There may be two Trumps---and I have heard several people say that they
know or have met Trump in private and that he's actually an intelligent
and nice guy.

So was HITLER!!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 11, 2016 01:13 PM (aRUb8)

975 And there is talk of anointing all the time in all manner of things. "She's an anointed singer" ect ect ect.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:14 PM (qHM3d)

976 You forgot the part where there is speaking of tongues and God tells the Cruz family Ted will be the Annointed one

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:11 PM (W1GMT)

What does that have to do with Cruz?Again...the new "standard" is family members? (just trying to keep up)

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 01:15 PM (aRUb8)

977 Belvita, I have been a Pentecostal most of my life. Snake handling is incredibly fringe. I never heard of it until I moved to the US. I have never seen it or heard a first hand account of it.

For speaking in tongues: See Acts and 1 Corinth.
Posted by: chique d'afrique

Look, I think there's all sorts of things people can do that are well meaning and Biblical, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with modern politics.

I personally think the speaking in tongues is something from the early Christian Church sort of like casting out demons, but I don't want to get into theology

But if that is the direction someone wants to go into where their Pentocostal faith is very much intertwined with politics, they should be in Seminary or become a Pastor etc.

Sorry, I'm not going to lose elections to defend Pentecostal services and most Protestant and catholic faiths would have BIG problems with what is being spouted off by the Cruz's like God is talking to them and saying Ted is the annointed one.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:17 PM (W1GMT)

978 Seriously, y'all should look at Trump with different eyes. Your purity is killing us.
______

Who is 'us' kemosabe?

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 11, 2016 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

979 Rastus @693, small correction (that doesn't affect your general point, no comment on that): MacArthur in fact *did* have some knowledge of Japan. In fact, his familiarity with its culture was one of his strengths that contributed to his spectacularly successful occupation tenure.

From arriving unarmed and without major armed escort when he first set foot in the country, to having the emperor come to *him* at the Dai Ichi building for their first meeting, he regularly made excellent moves based on his understanding of the Japanese mindset in relevant areas.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2016 01:18 PM (QDnY+)

980 So Pentecostals should just avoid public life because of bigots. Gotcha.

Posted by: Lauren at March 11, 2016 01:19 PM (qHM3d)

981 Cruz has proposed a 16% tax on all imported goods and a 0% tax on all exported goods. You can find the proposal on his website. Sounds like protectionism to me. I like it.

Posted by: Rabel at March 11, 2016 01:19 PM (CIo21)

982 This TrusTed post brought to you from your good friends at Ace of Spades! Have you tried Cruz today?

Posted by: phadedjaded at March 11, 2016 01:20 PM (ZQrUp)

983 964 "tariffs"

The focus is more than tariffs. Trump's main idea is three fold:
- that our trade deals do not favor us
- the elected's use of the word free trade is oxymoronic.
- our trading partners aren't playing fair when devaluing their currencies
.....

Fair enough, but his "solution" remains the same: import tariffs.

1. I agree. Our trade deals suck. How does import tariffs improve this?
2. Yes, the majority of the elected class are moronic on this issue and just about everything else. How do import tariffs solve this? Further, how is a person who's entire business career consists of profiting by bankruptcy (sticking his creditors with the tab and running away), multiple failed start ups, and return on capital of far less than the S&P for his entire career the best choice to improve this?
3. What control does the President of the United States have over the fiscal decision of other countries? Shall we go to war with everyone who isn't, in your words, playing fair?

Posted by: Damiano at March 11, 2016 01:22 PM (XItbt)

984 By the way: there's no chance I'm giving Pentecostals grief even if they did handle snakes, which I don't believe they do. Rafael Cruz Sr. might overpraise his son, but again I don't really care. Drudge may make mean headlines about it, but I don't imbibe everything they offer. If that hurts Cruz, like the Canadian thing, that's just the cost of doing business.

My concern is much more about having really sketchy advocates. Who form the core of your evangelical outreach campaign, as Glenn Beck does.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:22 PM (MEHba)

985
But I would REALLY like to see this guy make a return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:09 PM (MEHba)

---

I'm distracted by the attractive woman in the background in the black sweater and nylons.

He was sharper back than before the years of sleep deprivation scrambled his mind/behavior.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 11, 2016 01:23 PM (UypUQ)

986 So by this theory every American worker holding a job a foreigner would do for less money (and that includes almost everyone) is making America poorer by working? OK.

If that is the case then there is no basis for opposing mass immigration. We should not rest until we are all replaced by less cost foreign labor here and abroad. Only then will we be truly prosperous.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at March 11, 2016 01:24 PM (Bcqod)

987 Who form the core of your evangelical outreach campaign, as Glenn Beck does.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:22 PM (MEHba)

Looks like Beck is the new "BOOOOSH!"

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 01:25 PM (aRUb8)

988
Look, I think there's all sorts of things people can do that are well meaning and Biblical, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with modern politics.

That only seems to push one direction, of course. If someone does something new and bold and unusual that isn't Christian, its strong and courageous! Trump is the first candidate we've had as crude, low brow, and bombastic. That's something that is not compatible with modern politics... until it is.

And what makes that change is someone doing it, and being proud of it, until people get used to it and find its not so bad after all. Remember when talking about tax increases was instant death for a politician's career? Obama promised them both elections and won. That was not compatible with modern politics, until it was.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:27 PM (39g3+)

989
I don't think Trump is a dumb guy. But I don't think he knows a damn thing about public policy.

Since when did having to know anything about public policy bar one from running from higher office?

The media sure as hell doesn't care about it as long as the leftist institutions stay in place. They're more concerned about ratings, the horse race, and what amounts to teeny bopper bitchy gossip.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2016 01:31 PM (4ErVI)

990 >>> 76 You forgot the part where there is speaking of tongues and God tells the Cruz family Ted will be the Annointed one
....

Even if this were fully accurate, tell me how this is worse that the current guy in the White House that attended a racist church for 20 years? Ted's FATHER is alleged to go to this church and do these things, not Ted.

How is this worse than "Two Trumps", one who is a juvenile, belligerent, and says one thing to supporters and something entirely different behind closed doors? Do you enjoy continuing to be treated like an unwashed rube who must be entertained while the adults go and make deals behind your back? Speaking of deals, who has he been making deals with through his entire career? Who are the people he calls friends while making juvenile comments about Republican candidates. Oh... Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: Damiano at March 11, 2016 01:31 PM (XItbt)

991 I know, as opposed to having an SJW service in some denominations. Truly horrific.

Yeah I get the sense this guy would have no problem with a mainline Presbyterian Church USA service with the lesbian woman pastor and the sermon on the evils of microagressions and white privilege.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:34 PM (39g3+)

992 only 9 moar to go... we can DO this!

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2016 01:36 PM (QJ4jI)

993 Since when did having to know anything about public policy bar one from running from higher office?

Well, it ought to bar you from actually getting the job if you know nothing about it. In theory.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:36 PM (39g3+)

994 Who said Jews don't like me? Check out Drudge's screaming headline. I'll never forget the favors Matt. Believe me. Levin, your ass better watch out though.
Believe me. And we're going to figure who the f*** this "Ace of Spades" character is too. Believe me. May even can get Rush to tell me. Believe me.
OK, what dumb schmucks are we doing a rally for today?

Posted by: Bada Bing at March 11, 2016 01:39 PM (uNpJu)

995 "Since when did having to know anything about public policy bar one from running from higher office?

Well, it ought to bar you from actually getting the job if you know nothing about it. In theory."

Riiight...because the guys that supposedly know so much about it have done such a bang-up job thus far.
Here's what gets me:
We don't like Dole...well, hold your nose and vote for Dole.
We don't like McCain...well, hold your nose and vote for McCain.
We barely (roughly half) like Bush...hold your nose and vote for Bush.
Well, guess what? We (and lots more of us) really like Trump. Hold YOUR nose...or I'm done with you.

Posted by: Bentley at March 11, 2016 01:43 PM (4B/Ke)

996 What are Ted Cruz's economic policies that are going to save the nation?

Posted by: Herbert Spinecki at March 11, 2016 01:44 PM (hpTxo)

997 Looks like Beck is the new "BOOOOSH!"

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 01:25 PM (aRUb

Man, I never told Cruz to keep making Beck a headliner! If you're desperate to crank up evangelicals in the South, fine. But you'll reap what you sow.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/707376639785566209

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:44 PM (MEHba)

998 because the guys that supposedly know so much about it have done such a bang-up job thus far.

Let's put it this way; you own a business. Its your livelihood and future. The position of CEO and top executive of the company is soon to be open.

Who do you want to hire:

1) The guy that knows nothing about the job, has no experience in it, and doesn't seem inclined to learn
2) The guy with experience and knowledge of the facts, even though you've had guys like this in the past who were subpar or frustrated you

Which one is the best choice here? Because presidential candidates are interviewing for the toughest, most powerful job in the world. This isn't sweeping the back lot.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)

999 If you're desperate to crank up evangelicals in the South, fine. But you'll reap what you sow.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/707376639785566209

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:44 PM (MEHba)

What makes you think that..."wanting to crank up evangelicals in the South"?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 01:49 PM (aRUb8)

1000 there is no future, or reason to hope.

so let's give up and smoke more dope!

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2016 01:52 PM (QJ4jI)

1001 the toughest, most powerful job in the world.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 11, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)

This argument makes a lot of sense, even if you make the mistake of assuming Trump is clueless. Debates are meant for mass consumption! But if this scenario was everything, Carly Fiorina's HP would have subsumed IBM and she'd be the Republican nominee right now.

The very first question is grand strategy. Who is my candidate? Trump is a wildcard, but has humiliated some powerful enemies that no one else could have brought down, and Ted Cruz is choosing to jump in the Bushes.

Hey, 1000 posts, sweet.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:52 PM (MEHba)

1002 #6 Totally disappointed in Carson. What a boob.

Hey, boobs are useful and entertaining. At this point Carson is neither.

Posted by: jim at March 11, 2016 01:53 PM (VwhRo)

1003 What makes you think that..."wanting to crank up evangelicals in the South"?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 01:49 PM (aRUb

... please tell me that's the reason. If Cruz spent this much time getting the endorsement of a dry drunk for any other reason I'd call that disqualifyingly stupid.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:53 PM (MEHba)

1004 Ace seems to be unaware of Cruz's major trade policy flip-flop on TPA.

Posted by: Herbert Spinecki at March 11, 2016 01:55 PM (hpTxo)

1005 Cruz's TPA flip-flop. From the Cato Institute June 2015:

"The switch was a pretty big surprise considering that Cruz had been a prominent and vocal defender of TPA just a few weeks ago. He co-authored an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in May praising the bill and noting how important it was to furthering free trade. He went on record explaining at length how TPA was not only constitutional but represented an appropriate Congressional check on the power of the President."

Posted by: Herbert Spinecki at March 11, 2016 01:58 PM (hpTxo)

1006 Phyllis Schlafly

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 11, 2016 01:58 PM (QPdNE)

1007 Posted by: Herbert Spinecki at March 11, 2016 01:55 PM (hpTxo)

Who is your non flipper choice?
Just curious.

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 02:07 PM (aRUb8)

1008 ... please tell me that's the reason. If Cruz spent
this much time getting the endorsement of a dry drunk for any other
reason I'd call that disqualifyingly stupid.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 01:53 PM (MEHba)

Gladly answer your question..as soon as you ask one.
You didn't ask a question. You made a statement. The reason for WHAT exactly?
What was the question?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 02:10 PM (aRUb8)

1009 Do you think we should refer to Rush as our Lord Haw Haw or Lord Hee Haw?
And what the hell's the difference between TPP and TPA? Huh? I was hoping Lyin' Ted would explain that last night. Glad he explained Common Core some so I at least have a little bit of understanding about that deal.
Any way all I have really do is yell wall and tariffs.

Posted by: Bada Bing at March 11, 2016 02:10 PM (uNpJu)

1010 How long until old VHS footage emerges that shows Cruz writhing on the floor, covered by a blanket, barking out gibberish? A week?

Posted by: Jerry Falwell, worm bait at March 11, 2016 02:12 PM (6gR7l)

1011 So the jobs gained from tariffs mean nothing? This seems to be an awfully self-centered analysis.

Posted by: Rhino at March 11, 2016 02:14 PM (od9sy)

1012 "And what the hell's the difference between TPP and TPA? Huh?"---1009

TPA gives the president the authority to negotiate trade agreements. TPP is an actual agreement which would join the US to an EU-like Pacific grouping. It worked out so well in Brussels, you see.

Posted by: Jerry Falwell, worm bait at March 11, 2016 02:15 PM (6gR7l)

1013 Who is your non flipper choice?
Just curious.

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 02:07 PM (aRUb
I have no "non flipper choice" do you? Does Ace?

And....... THAT'S my entire point.

So obviously Ace's point about Trump's flip-flops is fallacious and misleading - no?

Posted by: Herbert Spinecki at March 11, 2016 02:16 PM (hpTxo)

1014 So the alternative is to sit around drinking val-u-rite, talking on obamaphones because all the jobs went overseas.

mmmmmkkay

Posted by: torabora at March 11, 2016 02:18 PM (yQ+5n)

1015 "If you're pissed at the GOP and DC (and why wouldn't you be) but you think Trump is a better weapon to wield than Cruz...I think you're letting your rage get the better of you."

agreed

Posted by: Shoey at March 11, 2016 02:21 PM (vA94g)

1016 May be I'll ask Little Marco to be my Consular General in Havana. Whaddya think, huh? Just to get under his skin just a teeny tiny bit. Believe me.
Anyway many of my pals in New York and New Jersey are asking, Donald, when can we get a casino and golf resort going in Cuba? It will be the most magnificient resort in all the Carribean---did I spell that right? Anyway we'll get Vladimer amd may be even Barack and of course, Bill, no Hillary, down there and blow the lid off that place. I understand Rush it wouldn't look good for you to be there. Beliweve me.

Posted by: Bada Bing at March 11, 2016 02:21 PM (uNpJu)

1017 "What are Ted Cruz's economic policies that are going to save the nation? "

shut up ! he's a True Conservative and Man of Conservative Conservatism ! isn't that enough for you , TRUMPKIN ? so what if he has zero grasp of economic theory and would lose 43 states to hilary ! did I mention he's a True Conservative Legend ! just like Glenn Beck !

Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 02:22 PM (oMdtQ)

1018
I don't think Trump is a dumb guy. But I don't think he knows a damn
thing about public policy. Listen to him talk, it's a stream of slogans
and fluffy promises to do things, great things! Awesome things!Posted by DrewM. at 10:12 AM

Comments

That's different than Cruz's claim to dismantle the IRS how? You don't think that is a fluffy promise to do great things! Awesome things! I've got a news flash for you, but the IRS isn't going anywhere, and you're a fool if you think it is. So again we have an attack on Trump for doing the very same thing all the other candidates do, except with Trump it's an outrage and proves he's a con man.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:22 PM (As7HW)

1019 Gladly answer your question..as soon as you ask one.
You didn't ask a question. You made a statement. The reason for WHAT exactly?
What was the question?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 02:10 PM (aRUb

The reason for Ted Cruz getting Glenn Beck's endorsement is so that he could crank up the Southern evangelical vote. It's what I've been talking about for the past few posts. The question I answered, was "what makes you think that" because there's no other sane reason to tie yourself to Beck's eccentricities, given that his media empire is on the verge of meltdown.

Stop playing stupid.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 02:23 PM (MEHba)

1020 No first, but willing to recognize that tariffs are
the bogeyman that some people seem to think they are. Cheap goods
aren't the be all and end all.

Posted by: WOPR at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

Yes they kinda are.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:24 PM (OrI3J)

1021 Posted by: johnny at March 11, 2016 02:22 PM (oMdtQ)

My...what a compelling argument you make!.

Posted by: Not a member of "Useful Idiots for Trump' at March 11, 2016 02:25 PM (aRUb8)

1022 The reason for Ted Cruz getting Glenn Beck's
endorsement is so that he could crank up the Southern evangelical vote.

Stop playing stupid.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 02:23 PM (MEHba

What are you basing that claim on?

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at March 11, 2016 02:27 PM (aRUb8)

1023 1020
No first, but willing to recognize that tariffs are

the bogeyman that some people seem to think they are. Cheap goods

aren't the be all and end all.

Posted by: WOPR at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

Yes they kinda are.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:24 PM (OrI3J)

Then answer the question I've been asking you all along. If you have no job how do you afford to buy goods at any price? You've never been able to explain where that basic income comes from, even though you know where it comes from. It comes from the government, but you refuse to admit it because you know that libertarian trade policy ultimately leads to Socialism.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:28 PM (As7HW)

1024 "I think you're letting your rage get the better of you. "

Seems like something you, and Ace, might want to speak into a mirror.

Posted by: Just A Guy at March 11, 2016 02:29 PM (CGzAz)

1025 That's different than Cruz's claim to dismantle the
IRS how?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:22 PM (As7HW)

Tu Quoque Fallacy.

Posted by: Guy who like to say "Tu Quoque" at March 11, 2016 02:31 PM (aRUb8)

1026 The US has a financial policy but it is set to a large extent by the federal reserve. The united states has for a long time pursued a policy of exporting paper money and treasury bonds rather than goods because the alternative was to cut the federal deficit and the size of the federal government . Trump has no plans to cut entitlement spending or any federal agencies . Waste and fraud is nice but it wont reduce federal spending enough to prevent massive deficits . Because China holds trillions in federal debt and can flood the world markets with US treasuries whenever they chose, the US has no bargaining position with China at all , quite the contrary . Thus Trumps tariff threat is empty and fatuous. Implementing Trumps tariffs would raise prices for US consumers and should China retaliate by dumping US treasuries that would almost certainly crash US equity and bond markets and cause significant inflation . I hope Donald gets some smart guys if he wins , he certainly isnt listening to any currently .

Posted by: mr burns at March 11, 2016 02:34 PM (1Arcq)

1027 recognize that tariffs are

the bogeyman that some people seem to think they are. Cheap goods

aren't the be all and end all.

Posted by: WOPR at March 11, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

How do tariffs equal cheap goods?? That make no sense.

Posted by: Bob at March 11, 2016 02:34 PM (aRUb8)

1028
Setting all the nonsense aside, perhaps someone could actually explain
to me where Ted Cruz captures 270 in the genral to win the presidency.
That is the ultimate question is it not?

Forget polls. Forget debates. Look at the map and tell me where
and how Ted Cruz can bring enough varying demographic into the race to
carry states Mitt Romney did not.

There is no debating many of Cruz's superior qualities over those of
Trump. However, until someone can give me a logical path to the
presidency for Ted Cruz, I will continue to have my doubts.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (WnCSK)

By getting the most votes in enough states to surpass that mark.

The concern trolling by Trump supporters on this issue is precious given that they have no insight on how in the world trump would get there given his head to head poll numbers other than: he is a winning winner whose shakes attract all the Dems and Independents to the yard.
And never mind that he would be winning in closed primary states as he is in open primary states if his appeal were that broad. Also, never mind that it is likely that the Dems voting for him in the primaries are doing so to get a weak candidate and will vote D in the fall. Nor should you mention that middling numbers of both actual conservatives and GOPe will not vote for Trump under any circumstances (conservatives because of his lack of substance and GOPe because he doesn't virtue signal like they want).

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:35 PM (OrI3J)

1029 Tu Quoque Fallacy.

Posted by: Guy who like to say "Tu Quoque" at March 11, 2016 02:31 PM (aRUb

I'm not attacking Drew's argument against Trump. I don't care that he's a con man, since they're all con men, they are politicians after all. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Drew and everyone else who claims Trump is a con man and that's why we shouldn't vote for him, but we should vote for a guy who is trying to tell us he'll dismantle the IRS, as if that wasn't a con.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:36 PM (As7HW)

1030 Seems like something you, and Ace, might want to speak into a mirror.

Posted by: Just A Guy at March 11, 2016 02:29 PM (CGzAz)

Out of curiosity, what do you find Trumps strong points, in CONtext to the duties of POTUS to be??

Posted by: Mr. Curious at March 11, 2016 02:37 PM (aRUb8)

1031 The US has a financial policy but it is set to a
large extent by the federal reserve. The united states has for a long
time pursued a policy of exporting paper money and treasury bonds rather
than goods because the alternative was to cut the federal deficit and
the size of the federal government . Trump has no plans to cut
entitlement spending or any federal agencies . Waste and fraud is nice
but it wont reduce federal spending enough to prevent massive deficits .
Because China holds trillions in federal debt and can flood the world
markets with US treasuries whenever they chose, the US has no bargaining
position with China at all , quite the contrary . Thus Trumps tariff
threat is empty and fatuous. Implementing Trumps tariffs would raise
prices for US consumers and should China retaliate by dumping US
treasuries that would almost certainly crash US equity and bond markets
and cause significant inflation . I hope Donald gets some smart guys if
he wins , he certainly isnt listening to any currently .

Posted by: mr burns at March 11, 2016 02:34 PM (1Arcq)

So let's put off the crisis as long as possible, making it inevitably worse with every day?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:38 PM (As7HW)

1032 @redbanzai Reposted

Why Trump can win:

Back in 2012, Obama & Co created the myths that the Middle East had been won, Al Queda was on the run, and that the economy had turned the corner ending the worst recession since the Great Depression. To do this they needed a complicit MSM, the IRS to strangle Tea Party opposition in the cradle, an accommodating Fed and misleading economic statistics cooked up by federal agencies. They only needed a few months' window leading up to November 2012 to do this and they got it. Obama still enjoyed personal popularity and his 2008 Coalition mostly held together. I'll now skip over the Romney bashing and how things could have been different in 2012, and move on to 2016.

If the Dems nominate Hillary, she's a weak candidate with a lot of baggage who's now wed to the failed policies of Obama and the silly policies of Bernie. Blacks and the Young won't turn out for her the way they did for Obama. White working class voters (still a majority of the electorate) won't either and are itching to find a new home. Odds are that we'll have another terrorist attack or two before November 2016. Trump can drive Hillary's negatives through the roof.

So we start with the 2012 electoral map. I don't see a state Romney won that Trump would lose to Hillary. Note particularly that Trump has already mostly swept the South in the primaries even though Cruz made his best play there.

Trump needs a swing of 64 to win. Trump will win Florida (+29). He can win OH (+1, MI (+16), PA (+20), and NV(+6). He's got a shot at VA (+13), CO (+9) and NH (+4). He can challenge with an outside shot to win NY (+29). So he's not drawing to an inside straight.

Name one state that Cruz can win. Some will say FL because of Cubano solidarity, but I say not after Hillary's Right to Chose FemiNazis get on him. Any others?

And there you have it. I'm more worried if the Dems nominate Biden.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (r1fLd)

1033 I'm not attacking Drew's argument against Trump. I
don't care that he's a con man, since they're all con men, they are
politicians after all. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Drew and
everyone else who claims Trump is a con man and that's why we shouldn't
vote for him, but we should vote for a guy who is trying to tell us
he'll dismantle the IRS, as if that wasn't a con.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:36 PM (As7HW)

Trying to deflect via implying hypocracy IS the Tu Quoque fallacy.

Posted by: Guy who like to say "Tu Quoque" at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (aRUb8)

1034 Trying to deflect via implying hypocracy IS the Tu Quoque fallacy.

Posted by: Guy who like to say "Tu Quoque" at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (aRUb

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:40 PM (As7HW)

1035 eh

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:40 PM (As7HW)

HEY!....you're stealing my shtick!

Posted by: Guy who likes to say "eh" at March 11, 2016 02:42 PM (aRUb8)

1036 Then answer the question I've been asking you all
along. If you have no job how do you afford to buy goods at any price?
You've never been able to explain where that basic income comes from,
even though you know where it comes from. It comes from the government,
but you refuse to admit it because you know that libertarian trade
policy ultimately leads to Socialism.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:28 PM (As7HW)

The problem is not with the cheap goods (which are a very good thing for consumers as it increases their purchasing power). The problem is regime and regulatory uncertainty that drive companies out of the US and discourages domestic investment in new companies that would hire people.

Your urge to punish the makers of the cheap goods will not fix the actual problems limiting production in this country. What it will do is make more people unemployed and drive down all people's purchasing power so that they are paying more for goods and so are able to purchase less of what they need or want with their money.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:43 PM (OrI3J)

1037 The problem is not with the cheap goods (which are a
very good thing for consumers as it increases their purchasing power).
The problem is regime and regulatory uncertainty that drive companies
out of the US and discourages domestic investment in new companies that
would hire people.

Your urge to punish the makers of the cheap
goods will not fix the actual problems limiting production in this
country. What it will do is make more people unemployed and drive down
all people's purchasing power so that they are paying more for goods and
so are able to purchase less of what they need or want with their
money.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:43 PM (OrI3J)
What purchasing power does the unemployed have? Where does it come from? Who provides it?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:46 PM (As7HW)

1038 What purchasing power does the unemployed have? Where does it come from? Who provides it?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:46 PM (As7HW)

Screw the unemployed. They're just a bunch of leftie whiners anyway. You've heard of that 70's Commie slogan "Eat The Rich"? I've got a new one for ya sonny..Eat The Poor. Thats the REAL way to solve the "poverty problem"

Posted by: Bitter old man at March 11, 2016 02:51 PM (aRUb8)

1039 Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:43 PM (OrI3J)

You better figure this out, because there is an even better "China" coming. Automation is going to destroy low skill jobs, and possibly even high skill jobs via expert databases using technology like Watson. Where will the minimum income come from to buy these wonderfully cheap products?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:51 PM (As7HW)

1040 Screw the unemployed. They're just a bunch of leftie
whiners anyway. You've heard of that 70's Commie slogan "Eat The Rich"?
I've got a new one for ya sonny..Eat The Poor. Thats the REAL way to
solve the "poverty problem"

Posted by: Bitter old man at March 11, 2016 02:51 PM (aRUb

You're joking but I think you're close to right. For the first time in history the elite class won't need the lower class to work their fields, tend their houses, and fight their wars. It's not here yet, obviously, but we can see there from where we're at. There is going to be more poor than have ever existed before, and they'll be completely worthless to that society. Nothing but vermin draining the resources of the elites.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:56 PM (As7HW)

1041 The media hasn't started in on Ted Cruz yet. But if
he somehow got the chance to go against Hillary, they will. For a
preview, check the front page of Drudge.

Utterly unelectable.

Posted by: Just Sayin'

Of course, but people are so wedded to their candidate they will continue to spin that this is no big deal.

Posted by: Belvita at March 11, 2016 01:02 PM (W1GMT)

Hehemmm...

Posted by: Press Who Called Cruz "The Guy Who Shut Down the Government" as if that were a bad thing at March 11, 2016 02:56 PM (OrI3J)

1042 Automation is going to destroy low skill jobs, and
possibly even high skill jobs via expert databases using technology like
Watson. Where will the minimum income come from to buy these
wonderfully cheap products?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:51 PM (As7HW)

When the entire economy crashes, there will be a lot of work emptying houses and warehouses etc. Perfect job for those leftie whiners. Build some character in those gay boys and girls...if you can call them girls. Ever see some of them? Tattoos, hairy legs and arm pits..smellin' to high heaven. Saw one with 2 inch toenails.

Posted by: Bitter old man at March 11, 2016 02:58 PM (aRUb8)

1043 Name one state that Cruz can win. Some will say FL because of Cubano solidarity,

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (r1fLd)

Nope. He's disliked far more than Trump is there. So much for closed Republican primaries being the kiss of death to the Trumpening.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_FL_22516.pdf

Mind if I steal your post with credit, by the way? I'd like to use it every time redbanzai jabbers about how the ebil Democrats have come to sabotage the purity of our campaign. Because there are just so many evangelical Democrats who cost Cruz South Carolina, Alabama, etc.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 02:59 PM (MEHba)

1044 You better figure this out, because there is an even
better "China" coming. Automation is going to destroy low skill jobs,
and possibly even high skill jobs via expert databases using technology
like Watson. Where will the minimum income come from to buy these
wonderfully cheap products?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 02:51 PM (As7HW)

Creative destruction can be a scary thing but that is how societies prosper... although I am sure the buggy whip makers put out of work by Henry Ford are cheering you from their graves.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:59 PM (OrI3J)

1045 Creative destruction can be a scary thing but that
is how societies prosper... although I am sure the buggy whip makers put
out of work by Henry Ford are cheering you from their graves.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 02:59 PM (OrI3J)

You trotted that old hag out? Do you have an original thought?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 03:03 PM (As7HW)

1046 "Understanding the conservative solutions" is like "understanding astrology" because conservative solutions on the economy are mostly destructive and suicidal. Conservative opinion on legal immigration (which is the same as liberal opinion on illegal immigration) guaranteed a thousand year reign for liberals and the end of Reagan conservatism. Suicidal ideologies are worthless, and libertarianism/fiscal conservatism are worse than communism in this regard.

Posted by: Johnny at March 11, 2016 03:06 PM (MZKpF)

1047 Trump needs a swing of 64 to win. Trump will win Florida (+29). He can
win OH (+1, MI (+16), PA (+20), and NV(+6). He's got a shot at VA (+13),
CO (+9) and NH (+4). He can challenge with an outside shot to win NY
(+29). So he's not drawing to an inside straight.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (r1fLd)

So you are using these polls to say Trump can win while at the same time ignoring the head to head polls showing Trump losing and losing badly. Hmmmmm.

You may want to rethink your strategery since Trump is establishment just like McCain and Romney (his tough talk aside, he has promised fabulous deals that conservatives don't want made). Given his place in the crony socialist system that we have been fighting and his personal negatives that are through the roof, I don't see Trump winning any of those states with the probable exception of Nevada.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 03:09 PM (OrI3J)

1048 Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2016 02:39 PM (r1fLd)

Additionally, I will say that even if Trump could win, which I think he can't, I don't want him to win. I think he is an execrable human being with big government tendencies and I don't want him in the White House.

Cruz, on the other hand, represents my values and I do want him there. Additionally, I have seen (granted on a smaller scale) that people will respond positively and overwhelmingly when offered an actual choice between Constitutional conservatism and liberalism. That is what Cruz brings to the table and I expect it will matter in a lot of states (including the ones you list above). Regardless, I will take my chances with Cruz because, if he wins it will be an actual win for conservatism and not just anger AND will represent an opportunity to actually turn this country around instead of burning to the ground.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 03:15 PM (OrI3J)

1049 conservative solutions on the economy are mostly
destructive and suicidal.

Posted by: Johnny at March 11, 2016 03:06 PM (MZKpF)

What are you referring to, specifically?

Posted by: Bullshit Detective at March 11, 2016 03:18 PM (aRUb8)

1050 "Understanding the conservative solutions" is like
"understanding astrology" because conservative solutions on the economy
are mostly destructive and suicidal. Conservative opinion on legal
immigration (which is the same as liberal opinion on illegal
immigration) guaranteed a thousand year reign for liberals and the end
of Reagan conservatism. Suicidal ideologies are worthless, and
libertarianism/fiscal conservatism are worse than communism in this
regard.

Posted by: Johnny at March 11, 2016 03:06 PM (MZKpF)

You have to understand who you are talking to. These are people whose whole identities are wrapped up in being "Conservative", so they aren't going to surrender to the truth easily. Many people never do, but society moves on and leaves them.
International free trade has been a disaster for the average person. I agree that the China experiment would have been a good thing if it had been handled correctly, but then again Communism sounds good on paper, but fails for the very same reasons. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the devil is in the details, etc..etc.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 03:26 PM (As7HW)

1051 Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 03:26 PM (As7HW)

eh.

Posted by: Guy who likes to say "eh" at March 11, 2016 03:28 PM (aRUb8)

1052 And say Cruz does get the nomination...do you realize how both sides of the establishment will utterly destroy him when they start playing clips of his "body of Christ" talk. When he is viewed as a relgious nut or caricatured as a southern baptist preacher. (It will be quite easy to do that, btw, too.) How many crossover votes will he be getting then? He will lose. What don't you get, Ace?? We agree with you about many things on Trump and Cruz, but Cruz will lose. They haven't even begun to start on bringing him down yet! And then we will have Hillary.

Posted by: Nem at March 11, 2016 03:40 PM (eLvFT)

1053 Actions speak louder than words

At the debate when Carson didn't hear his name, Trump stood with him while the boys rudely walked around him.
Many of us noticed that.

Posted by: Avi at March 11, 2016 03:40 PM (0+htq)

1054 Ace has been all over the board on this. First it was "Damn them all! Blow th Bridges! To Hell with ALL of them! The Republican Establishment must be destroyed! Now? "Well, I guess Cruz is O.K." Really? The same Cruz who is tied to the hip with the Bush family? The same Bush family that has done more to damage the conservative brand than...any Republican EVER? Consider also that I actually LIKE Bush Sr. and George W.

Cruz has more problem than you realize...and Drudge is pasting one on his page prominently right now. You think Obama had a "Reverend Wright" problem? At least Reverend Wright" wasn't his FATHER.

Do we really need another "anointed one" in office? Do we really need another Senator that hasn't completed a single term in office--who has no experience actually earning a living by producing something, who has spent the majority of his life either in political patronage jobs or directly working for the government?

I think what you're seeing on Drudge's front page is going to turn off a LOT of the moderates he needs to vote for him...and don't delude yourself--unless moderates don't just "Lean Republican" but actually "Vote Republican", he doesn't have a chance. The largest political "group" is independents. Half the country's population is now independent (43%). The Republicans? (30%) The Democrats (30%).

Please also note that this current parity between Republicans and Democrats is a fluke. The Democrats have had a significant advantage the past 12 years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

I don't think Cruz will carry ONE more state than Romney did...and if he doesn't, all we have is another four years of heartbreak and misery.

The one thing Trump has going for him is his oversized ego. If Trump wins it, he's going to be absolutely DRIVEN to "win". How does he win? He makes "America Great Again". Which policies will do that? Conservative? Liberal? I think you know the answer.

I feel we've got a better chance of actually getting Republican policies put into place with a charismatic President who is able to go over the heads of the House and Senate (because they're STILL majority "establishment") to get Conservative economic and foreign policies put into place.

Trump come in and give the Democrats what they want? Only if the House and Senate let him. Given what I'm seen the last few days, he's going to have hell getting REPUBLICANS to put in conservative policies.

So...for myself, I'm getting pretty tired of hearing about the manna and gifts that some Republican is going to drop on us from the Heavens regarding checking blocks off the "Conservative Wish List". I've had enough of Republican ideologues...and Democratic ideologues. I'm far more disappointed in the Republican ideologues because I see no evidence they're conservatives at all.

I can guarantee you what I don't want to see in the White House. Someone who thinks that Jesus is going to come back and return wealth to the "annotated ones". Yeah...we need a Ricky Ricardo/Rick Bakker hybrid to return us to the promised land.

Right.

Posted by: RaynMan at March 11, 2016 03:45 PM (zI0aN)

1055 When he is viewed as a relgious nut or caricatured as a southern baptist preacher. (It will be quite easy to do that, btw, too.)

Posted by: Nem at March 11, 2016 03:40 PM (eLvFT)

Cruz was absolutely desperate to get evangelical votes early on, in order to run the table in the South and be the presumptive nominee. Without Trump, it may have worked, but then he'd be facing Rubio and Bush, among many others. Glenn Beck was brought on to appeal to this demographic, no matter how many Cruz supporters disavow him or pretend it was for some other reason, and it still wasn't enough. Now Cruz is facing a hard row indeed in Ohio and Florida. He absolutely will not win deeply north of the Bible Belt, and that will be the story of him.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 03:45 PM (MEHba)

1056 Nope. He's disliked far more than Trump is there. So much for closed
Republican primaries being the kiss of death to the Trumpening.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2016 02:59 PM (MEHba)

First, there is no basis for your assertion that Cruz is more disliked than Trump. All evidence point to the opposite being true. Trumps unfavorables are at almost 70% while Cruz's are in the mid to high teens.

Second, Cruz has curb stomped Trump in most closed process states. We shall see how Florida actually turns out but again your assertions are not born out by facts thus far.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 04:10 PM (OrI3J)

1057 "Understanding the conservative solutions" is like

"understanding astrology" because conservative solutions on the economy

are mostly destructive and suicidal. Conservative opinion on legal

immigration (which is the same as liberal opinion on illegal

immigration) guaranteed a thousand year reign for liberals and the end

of Reagan conservatism. Suicidal ideologies are worthless, and

libertarianism/fiscal conservatism are worse than communism in this

regard.

Posted by: Johnny at March 11, 2016 03:06 PM (MZKpF)

Perhaps you should educate yourself about our actual opinions and solutions before commenting.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 04:12 PM (OrI3J)

1058 Cruz has more problem than you realize...and Drudge is pasting one on
his page prominently right now. You think Obama had a "Reverend Wright"
problem? At least Reverend Wright" wasn't his FATHER.
Posted by: RaynMan at March 11, 2016 03:45 PM (zI0aN)

What is your point? If a family member is the strong evangelical, so what. Thats your family. You don't have to go out of your way...after consciously PICKING that guy over many other choices...then travel to his church and listen to him like Obama and Wright.
So it's actually in Cruzs favor that it is his father who is the strong evangelical, correct?

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 11, 2016 04:13 PM (aRUb8)

1059 Second, Cruz has curb stomped Trump in most closed
process states. We shall see how Florida actually turns out but again
your assertions are not born out by facts thus far.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 04:10 PM (OrI3J)

Well...not only that, but Trump is an idiot with obvious mental health issues and Cruz is an articulate, accomplished man who is grounded in the principles of the Constitution. So to sum up...Cruz principled, accomplished man....Trump mentally ill idiot who's personality development got stunted somewhere around age 14.
Why do people have a hard time choosing the right man??

Posted by: Mimzey at March 11, 2016 04:19 PM (aRUb8)

1060 What is your point? If a family member is the strong
evangelical, so what. Thats your family. You don't have to go out of
your way...after consciously PICKING that guy over many other
choices...then travel to his church and listen to him like Obama and
Wright.
So it's actually in Cruzs favor that it is his father who is the strong evangelical, correct?

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 11, 2016 04:13 PM (aRUb

Raynman thinks religion is icky. Much ickier, apparently, than a man who lies (about his opponents and his positions), cheats (on his wives and likely on his taxes) and steals (other people's property).

Quite frankly, what this country needs is a return to out moral center which includes religion in the town square.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 11, 2016 04:20 PM (OrI3J)

1061 Man, I remember when a candidate said choosing Turmp was a decision made in fear and anger; and was a very very bad mistake.

Who was that again?

Oh, Ben Carson. Hm.

I guess a very very bad mistake because of fear and anger sounded much better a month later?

Posted by: gekkobear at March 11, 2016 04:34 PM (1tc4V)

1062 I guess a very very bad mistake because of fear and anger sounded much better a month later?

Posted by: gekkobear at March 11, 2016 04:34 PM (1tc4V)

Make friends with the scary bad man, and maybe he'll give you a job thats easier than cutting peoples heads open and pokin' their brains?

Posted by: Mimzey at March 11, 2016 04:38 PM (aRUb8)

1063 "Raynman thinks religion is icky. Much ickier, apparently, than a man who
lies (about his opponents and his positions), cheats (on his wives and
likely on his taxes) and steals (other people's property).

Quite frankly, what this country needs is a return to out moral center which includes religion in the town square."

Spoken like a true Taliban. I have no problem at all with any religion that isn't imposed on me. The problem is I've lived in the Bible Belt. I know what the righteous ones do when they're at the helm.

He isn't seen just "being" in the Church. He's participating. Obama visited Reverend Wright once a week...had a few meetings with him.

This is Cruz's FATHER telling us that "his son is the appointed one", speaking in tongues. Shit...I was waiting for him to pull a snake out and start singing.

If you can watch this and not cringe...you're part of the problem, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0_KKg6Wh3Q

Posted by: RaynMan at March 11, 2016 05:24 PM (zI0aN)

1064 "International free trade has been a disaster for the average person."
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 03:26 PM (As7HW)

This is wholly untrue. The level of luxury and wealth that the average American enjoys is largely due to trade. Even those of us considered to be in "poverty" often have TVs made in Japan or South Korea, phones made in China, cars designed in Japan or Germany and produced in the U.S, clothes made in India/China/Mexico/The Philippines.

American farmers and businesses export a great number of products to Canada/Mexico/Europe/Asia. In many goods the U.S. has a comparative and an absolute advantage in production and is a dominant supplier for the entire world.

No one deserves a lifetime of job security because they joined an auto worker's union in Detroit. We can buy far more cheap textiles from other countries than we ever could if we tried to make all we needed for ourselves here. A trade embargo or tariff does not stimulate our own economy, it forces us to use inefficient replacements and diminishes our ability to produce the things we do best. Do you think Iowa would be better off growing it's own almonds rather than buying them from California? Drilling and refining oil itself rather than relying on Texas? Mining it's own coal instead of buying from Pennsylvania? The only beneficiary is the owner of the new state created monopoly that provides an inferior and/or more expensive product.

Protectionism is a pernicious ideology that desires to impoverish the masses to the benefit of a select few.

Posted by: Sjg at March 11, 2016 06:01 PM (gDSJf)

1065 added cost of labor to make things in the US because of wage disparities

Direct labor costs for most manufactured goods are only about 5-7% of the cost-to-manufacture. So get off that line, Drew.

The REAL differences are in wage/hour legislation, EPA/IRS/OSHA compliances, other legal compliances, benefits (healthcare, FUCA/SUCA, soc sec taxes, and please don't forget the various State-level/municipal-level fees, taxes, and compliances such as occupancy, licenses, etc.

If you want a serious discussion of the differences, let's go to it on those terms, and yes, let's discuss 'cost of labor' too!

Posted by: dad29 at March 11, 2016 08:44 PM (7Kti7)

1066 Protectionism is a pernicious ideology that desires to impoverish the masses to the benefit of a select few.

Posted by: Sjg at March 11, 2016 06:01 PM (gDSJf)

Let's see if you can answer the question. How does one afford goods at any price without a job? Where does that income come from?

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 11, 2016 11:22 PM (As7HW)

1067 Well Ace, I guess being petulant does suit you. It seems to be your natural state.

Posted by: Pat at March 12, 2016 01:54 AM (n22zQ)

1068 Test

Posted by: RickZ at March 12, 2016 05:00 AM (FpufO)

1069 1066. Let's see if you can answer the question. How does one afford goods at any price without a job? Where does that income come from?

By getting a low paying job they currently refuse to take or provide services they currently refuse to provide. By doing jobs that some claim Americans won't do. By getting Government to stop punishing small businesses and encouraging large ones to stay in-country. Shall I go on?

Posted by: jim at March 12, 2016 12:31 PM (VwhRo)

1070
By getting a low paying job they currently
refuse to take or provide services they currently refuse to provide. By
doing jobs that some claim Americans won't do. By getting Government
to stop punishing small businesses and encouraging large ones to stay
in-country. Shall I go on?

Posted by: jim at March 12, 2016 12:31 PM (VwhRo)

Those are going to be the first jobs to go. Cashiers, truck drivers, tellers, and burger flippers are being targeted right now, but that isn't my point. These open border types always cite how cheap goods are to show how things are better than they've ever been, but they never fill in the other side of that equation and explain where the money comes from in the world they describe. I've just started to ask them that question and it's difficult to get an answer from them, even though they know it comes from the government.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 12, 2016 02:10 PM (DxfT3)

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