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BY 5-4 VOTE, SUPREME COURT IMPOSES GAY MARRIAGE ON ENTIRE NATION
Now come the knock-on cases, where they ban federal funding of religious schools that don't recognize gay marriage. You Will Be Made to Care. Here is the mere opinion of five transient cultural Marxists.It is so ordered. pic.twitter.com/3IVBeEzkQF
— Katherine Mangu-Ward (@kmanguward) June 26, 2015If they do, it will be a lie.
"If you like your church, you can keep your church." https://t.co/ShmEHjmycy
— John Nolte (@NolteNC) June 26, 2015Scalia also writes that the majority opinion contains "profoundly incoherent" passages that strain to sound memorable pic.twitter.com/GaSOUnUy33
— David Freddoso (@freddoso) June 26, 2015Scalia writes a dissent to “calls attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy.” Hoo boy. pic.twitter.com/VJmI20HyNN
— Brett LoGiurato (@BrettLoGiurato) June 26, 2015Scalia: pic.twitter.com/BT1Arl44vD
— David Freddoso (@freddoso) June 26, 2015More Scalia: pic.twitter.com/XshKVEyQJZ
— David Freddoso (@freddoso) June 26, 2015.@POTUS on #SCOTUSMarriage http://t.co/qfl4Z1u8qd pic.twitter.com/4tpgM4LFGH
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) June 26, 2015Roberts zeroes in on where the next big game is. You & I both know this is coming. pic.twitter.com/aCJBzBWdEO
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) June 26, 2015I can't wait to force the local mosque to marry gay couples.
— Bob Owens (@bob_owens) June 26, 2015Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: VBJonny at June 26, 2015 10:07 AM (tic+M)
Posted by: Zombie Rehnquist at June 26, 2015 10:08 AM (gTfX/)
Posted by: Over at June 26, 2015 10:08 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Kronos at June 26, 2015 10:08 AM (ekObh)
Posted by: VBJonny at June 26, 2015 10:08 AM (tic+M)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (kGrdk)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: HH at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (Qia1Z)
Posted by: Thor's feather duster at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
If you are a liberal, the good news today is tempered by the fact that we are all going to die of climate change.
Truer words...
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (BZAd3)
Will Gabe at least drop by to explain the "reasoning" (that word makes me giggle in connection withthe SCOTUS, has for a long time) of the decision?
I'd expect the silly, self-referential, faux-sophistication of most judicial law-making to be really, really rich in this case.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Gomer Pyle at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (t1V0T)
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (fWLrt)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
I guess criminal charges, civil lawsuits, jail time, and loss of tax exempt status for congregation.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (/Ho8c)
Psalm 79:6 - Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.
Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (rdjj7)
How many divisions does Anthony Kennedy have?
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (YYJjz)
his church will lose it's tax exempt status.
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: locomotivebreath1901
I'm told that this is entirely racist.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: zane at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (N99QN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (kGrdk)
Posted by: owlpellets at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (YvTdG)
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (fWLrt)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:12 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Speechless---again at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (VcOqI)
Like I said yesterday, watch how many "I'm a churchgoing, God-fearing, conservative, through-and-through" Republicans will say, "Oh well, thems the breaks, can't do nothing about it now."
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: The Engine Obama, working on all cylinders at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (2pOTb)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (/Ho8c)
-Religion and churches
-State constitutions
-Will and vote of the people
But hey, secession is still super crazy!!!!
Posted by: The Most Secessionist Man In The World at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (f7UVF)
Posted by: Spellcheck, M.D. at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (1mPbg)
Posted by: David W at June 26, 2015 10:13 AM (Hi6cL)
Posted by: Speechless---again at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (VcOqI)
This term - crickets, so I figured the White House was pleased as punch with the rulings. Confirmed.
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Lizabth at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (Qeh6Q)
churchgoing, God-fearing, conservative, through-and-through" Republicans
will say, "Oh well, thems the breaks, can't do nothing about it now."
Posted by: RoyalOil
I think you're right. But let me ask: what exactly do you suggest be done?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (/Ho8c)
So, if my pastor refuses to marry a gay couple, then what?
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Your church will lose it's tax-exempt status.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (ZvKdv)
As near as I can tell, the Supremes have simply outlawed marriage in the 50 states. It's now some kind of contract thing.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Ghost of Charlemagne seated on his mighty throne atop SMOD at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (xs4A3)
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Hill Billy at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (VcOqI)
On the upside, Justice Kennedy is 78, so now he can resign and let Omama appoint his replacement.
Just to go for the trifecta.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (/Ho8c)
You obviously haven't been watching the Tylenol commercial which has been airing for two weeks.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (VPLuQ)
And make no mistake, the leftist retardation WILL turn
Posted by: KenH at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (67f1X)
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (gmeXX)
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I will call it "marriage".
The others (man-man, woman-woman, man-goat, etc.) will be called "Hahahaha. Yeah, right..."
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (fWLrt)
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: GOP at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (utCXs)
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (MQEz6)
That is bullshit of the highest order. That is such bullshit that it is an insult to the good and sacred name of bullshit to call it bullshit.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (39FGM)
Posted by: The Most Secessionist Man In The World at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (f7UVF)
This is the end, my only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes, again
Can you picture what will be, so limitless and free
Desperately in need, of some, stranger's hand
In a, desperate land
Posted by: blaster at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (rdjj7)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (so+oy)
Posted by: Lizabth at June 26, 2015 10:14 AM (Qeh6Q)
This, actually. Religious institutions should withdraw from any and all relationships that the government can use to control them. So, repudiate tax-exempt status. Everybody should be putting as much distance between them and the government as possible, legally speaking.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: sans_sheriff at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (dBAgi)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (iQIUe)
Wait ...what
Posted by: Rip Van Winkle at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (eOpVe)
Posted by: LibertarianJim at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: billygoat at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (5W5VZ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (FsuaD)
You must be new here
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (fWAjv)
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Too late. It's already happened.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 10:17 AM (iQIUe)
Behold the complete idiocy of the "court" as excerpted in that tweet above. My gawd. Ahh, po widdle (fill in the blank), you don't want to feel less "dignity" than other people have for (fill in the blank of your particular arrangement)? Here, the constitution DOES say you're just as good as those other people!
THIS is the "reasoning" of the "court" on redefining man's oldest institution?
Not sweeping away discriminatory tax benefits (which should be done)? Not simply ensuring that all practical benefits of voluntary relationships are equally shared?
Is there even any trace of legal or constitutional "reasoning" involved? Is Gabe come edumucateus?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (rdjj7)
It's really impressive in a way.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (evdj2)
What a great fcuking week. I am leaving the country at 6:00 for Rome. Fcuk this shit. See you all in a few weeks
Posted by: Nip Sip at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (0FSuD)
watch how many "I'm a churchgoing, God-fearing, conservative, through-and-through" Republicans will say, "Oh well, thems the breaks, can't do nothing about it now."
Posted by: RoyalOil
"Settled law. Now the way forward to elect a Republican President and re-elect our Republican Congress to appoint judges who blah de blah blah..."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (fWLrt)
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Perhaps this will pave the way for the elimination of the charitable deduction. Churches and true charities would survive. Not sure about the symphonies and universities.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (gmeXX)
SMOD, hurry. Please.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: dogfish
I eat a shit-ton of popcorn watching the reaction.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (fWAjv)
Now it is no longer there.
What thing on the list is next?
What will gay people say when incest is next or under the age of consent or bigamy or mental retardation?
They will say nothing and will do so because they got what they wanted and fuck you.
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: The Engine Obama, working on all cylinders at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (2pOTb)
Posted by: karen at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (xs+DN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (eOpVe)
Expect prosecutions of ministers. Expect churches and other organizations to lose their tax-exempt statuses.
The Left are self-hating nihilists and hedonists all at the same time. They don't give a damn that they're burning everything down in their perpetual pursuit of their oh-so-precious feelings.
The Republic is overthrown. There is no loyal opposition or any opposition to that matter.
IT IS DECIDED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ez5Y9LZc8Q
God help us.
Posted by: Embittered Southerner at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (5bWE2)
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (PFy0L)
What a great fcuking week. I am leaving the country at 6:00 for Rome. Fcuk this shit. See you all in a few weeks
Posted by: Nip Sip at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (0FSuD)
Stay off the beaches.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (FsuaD)
No one cares, but over 1000 shot, 200 killed in Chicago so far this year.
Black lives matter
Posted by: Colin at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (VVrB8)
Posted by: Grimaldi at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (utCXs)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (sPO3u)
ISIS holds gay weddings on rooftops.
The trip to the reception is memorable.
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (MQEz6)
THREAD WINNER!
Posted by: Nip Sip at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (rdjj7)
5-4 Supreme Court vote giving an exemption
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (fWLrt)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (rdjj7)
______________________
It's going to be interesting to see which side the "elites" take in the coming battle between the millions of new Muslim immigrants and the gays.
To date, the "elites" have bowed and scraped to the Muslims in all things. But when U.S. imams refuse to allow gay members in their mosques, or refuse to perform gay "weddings," or speak openly against the sin of homosexuality -- what then?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:20 AM (kGrdk)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (eOpVe)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (evdj2)
Or are we only required to eat it?
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (zauWW)
Posted by: Arch Bishop at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (6qR/9)
Did the majority just rule that there is, indeed, life after death? This might be the most important court decision since that judge ruled that that old guy was Santa Claus in Miracle on 34th Street.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (nFdGS)
have me.
For all the socialism, they manage to keep free speech, free conscience, and a sensible attitude about traditions and holidays and political correctness. The taxes are no worse. I feel like this country threw itself away.
Posted by: SarahW at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (lv2k0)
Posted by: Grimaldi
Yep. I'm as ready as I'll be, and I'm not getting any younger.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 26, 2015 10:22 AM (7RXcs)
Or are we only required to eat it?
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (BZAd3)
You could give the cake the Jessie jackson treatment and let them choke on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:22 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 10:22 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Arch Bishop at June 26, 2015 10:22 AM (VcOqI)
The Party of tolerance and Co-existance assure me that your opinion will be respected.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: SarahW at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (lv2k0)
Posted by: mbruce at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (YtWJn)
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SCOTUS ruled that making fun of being a bottom is a hate crime.
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (fWLrt)
How is Fredo going to take a victory lap and give a eulogy at the same time???
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (fWAjv)
If the JEF is smart (heh) he'll keep his damned mouth shut about gay marriage at the euology. Black churches are notorious for disapproving of the gay lifestyle. I know my husband's office manager lost her love for Obama when he came out in support of same-sex marriage.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Crowley, Satan, America at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (hK66D)
"But this court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in dissent.
Today it's not a legislature. Yesterday not so much.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (iQIUe)
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They have to say "no."
"No, we do not recognize the authority of the Supreme Court to define what the laws of our state can and cannot do in this area."
"No, we will not allow the use of any state resources directly or indirectly to enforce any part of this ruling."
This is not a fight we can win as people.
We only get our freedoms back as a group.
You cannot run an insurgency without the safe harbor protection of local governments.
That is where Kurt Schlichter is deadly wrong.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (sCHw2)
Posted by: ryukyu at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (j29PP)
Though...remember when he said you didn't have a right to gay marraige as part of lawrence? yeah...
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (39FGM)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Naes at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (YhayY)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (x3GpS)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (96Dar)
you had the chance to care...
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (Iv/Hw)
Sad that it was by brought about by crooked method of lawfare and not via laws passed by Congress.
Sad for all of those who are going to suffer under harrassment lawsuits for being forced to go against their beliefs (and if you don't think it will happen it already does, this just means its going to be open warfare).
Posted by: Gaff at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (jPS2y)
I have lots to say, but Big Brother and all.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: karen
..........
Roberts dissented.. it was Kennedy who joined the dark side.. predictable.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (so+oy)
Why can't it mean whatever we say it means?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (eEb+d)
this is the problem
The state of SC decided to take down the flag, but it didn't end there. It was Nikki, Scott, Graham, etc. Your voted/representative/officials who decided. Fair enough. But, it didn't end there.
Gay marriage, I don't really care, but if it attacks religions and forces them to go against their beliefs... I care.
The trade deal? Who knows what was in it. Trade? Trade can be good for the nation. But was it Trade? Nah, more Emperor powers.
Gun control. Same thing.
Recycling, living energy efficient? Sure, within reason. Not this fake global cooling/warming/change BS just for the rich to get richer.
We have lost all common sense. People have lost their collective minds. They are acting like feral dogs attacking the only piece of meat left on the planet.
The country is in a feeding frenzy, being used by the wealthiest and politicians to become more wealthy and stay in power.
Nothing is held sacred. Nothing has any value anymore.
Avalanche.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (qCMvj)
As a Catholic, my church marriage is the only thing of any consequence, the rest of it is for legal and tax purposes. I would have no objection to checking that box at the town clerks office. In a minor way we were discriminated against as a marriage license cost 10 dollars more than a civil union.
That being said, I'm glad this particular fight is now at an end, it won't stop of course, but this should not be an issue for 2016 unless our candidates continue to make it one. We may not be happy with the outcome, but I think that two "divisive" type issues have been taken off the table for the general election, if we choose to play this smartly.
1) Obamacare, which will never be repealed even under a GOP presidency, no matter how much we wish it to be, is now a done deal. It's never going away folks, we are stuck with it just like any other entitlement, and it will be made even worse over time under the guise of fixing it.
2) Gay marriage, it was coming to every state eventually, this hastens it. At some point in the last 5 or 6 years, the switch got flipped on this one. I heard on the radio yesterday talking that even California passed Prop 8, so we conservatives must be winning. It's a different world than it was 7 years ago when Prop 8 passed, it would not pass today.
So we need to keep fighting to avoid future encroachment on the conscientious objectors of the culture war, but these issues are off the table, and should remain so for any serious contenders for the GOP nomination.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (n/ogz)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (zHv1E)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Colin at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (VVrB8)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:23 AM (FsuaD)
Yeah, just told a coworker who is a pastor at his church. None too happy.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (fWAjv)
I really dont care about SSM. People shd be allowed companionship and the ability to protect those relationships. I preferred to have my healthcare choices returned to me more.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (iQIUe)
When will they require religious institutions to do it
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 10:25 AM (zHv1E)
now
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (x3GpS)
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Until we find that the 14th A (being ratified after the 1st A) amended the 1st.
You can disagree - but only in speech - not in action.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (gmeXX)
So, if my pastor refuses to marry a gay couple, then what?
Religion will now be defined a 'public accomodation.'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (oVJmc)
BS BS BS BS
Posted by: Zombie Rehnquist at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (gTfX/)
Posted by: Naes at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (YhayY)
You've got to pay extra for strict scrutiny but it's fabulous!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 10:26 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Snafu at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (pxNGL)
Posted by: Arcadehero at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (f7UVF)
There are no limits anymore. We can do anything. We have the technology, we can rebuilt it anyway we want.
[Dean scream of exhilaration. Yeah!]
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (uYIF2)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (dsXUt)
They are already doing this in the UK.
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Post-American at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (7u7u7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
Your church loses its tax-exempt status, for starters.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (evdj2)
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I want to move to sweden now if they will
have me.
For all the socialism, they manage to keep free speech, free
conscience, and a sensible attitude about traditions and holidays and
political correctness. The taxes are no worse. I feel like this country
threw itself away.
Posted by: SarahW at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (lv2k0) <<<
Ever hear of Malmo? It's essentially ISIS-by-the-Baltic.
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (sCHw2)
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (x3GpS)
Say hello to polygamy and polyandry.
Warm up your tonsils to beastiality and pedophilia.
They are right behind.
Posted by: MacGruber at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (FEAjO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (0O7c5)
So what difference should it make that they are one man and three women, or two women and four boys and a dog? They love each other and seek to make a deep and meaningful commitment to each other. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The constitution grants them that right.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (kGrdk)
the place across the street had one of those gigantic American flags waving in the breeze. For the first time in my life, I felt bad looking at it: A combo of indifference and a frustrated anger
it's someone else's country now
Posted by: John of Salisbury at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (8CdUx)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
The church can kiss its 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status goodbye.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (2Ojst)
It WAS a grand old flag. It WAS a great republic.
Posted by: Talkin' Taqyia2Me, DNC/MSM/RNC at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (wmcC8)
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (Q4pU/)
Posted by: bystander at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: The Chicken at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (VPLuQ)
individual autonomy"; (2) "two-person union unlike any other in its
importance to the committed individuals";
Sorry. Those two are contradictory.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (oVJmc)
8 So, if my pastor refuses to marry a gay couple, then what?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
The church can kiss its 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status goodbye.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (2Ojst)
that and jail
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (0O7c5)
Polygamy is next, though I suspect they'll sell it a some sort of hipster, new-age group relationship crap while it will really only benefit certain members of a particular religion.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/938xpsxy.asp
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Naes at June 26, 2015 10:24 AM (YhayY)
You've got to pay extra for strict scrutiny but it's fabulous!"
My desire would be for the RCC to voulntarily give up that status. This would force a tremendous amount of consolidation, school, and hospital closures. But would be beneficial for the longterm health of parishes, and would allow us to fight encroachment on religious liberty head on without having the risk of running afoul of some tax law.
It would be difficult thing to do, but with the decline of vocations, there are many unhealthy parishes that will be closing eventually anyway.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (CdIQH)
I'm stealing that.
....................
It was always a socialist proggy oath as well as a crummy commercial to sell flags.
I stopped years ago figuring I didn't like that at all, and besides oaths don't wear off. Same reason I would never "renew" my wedding vows.
Posted by: SarahW at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (lv2k0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
Your church loses its tax-exempt status, for starters.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 26, 2015 10:27 AM (YFw5T)
NO
But that may be the next kind of case coming down the road, but I actually believe they would NOT rule against the Church in this instance, but I've been wrong before.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: Flag Waver at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (VcOqI)
Yeah, I don't think it's going to stop there.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (ZKzrr)
I'm not. Fuck them. They're not really married. I'd be more kind if they weren't so insecure that they don't think their love can be real unless daddy government forces everyone to accept it.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: jwest at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (9ZZd+)
8 So, if my pastor refuses to marry a gay couple, then what?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
The church can kiss its 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status goodbye.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:28 AM (2Ojst)
that and jail
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (0O7c5)
I don't know about jail, at least not at first, but I would certainly expect lawsuits and the state's human rights body and/or Attorney General to seek fines and penalties.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Bud Norton at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (KoWnw)
Posted by: Flag Waver at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (evdj2)
The indoctrination will soon be complete.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (wq4B0)
This is true, but it can't be done. The Church(not speaking of buildings/personalities or that sort of thing) will prevail. The story is written, the ending sure. We're seeing it all play out right in front of our eyes. Awesome, in the true sense of the word.
Posted by: Lizabth at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (Qeh6Q)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (l/N7H)
So how do they know which one to rape in court in the divorce proceedings?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (2Ojst)
After the wedding, the happy couple will honeymoon in the garage where I will lube them both then withdraw oil from the truck and place it in the car. Then they'll both have a cigarette.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (Uq9ly)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (2bkfv)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (0O7c5)
And SJW attacks
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (evdj2)
He's too busy jackin' it to the print copy of the opinion.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (CdIQH)
I salute the Gaystapo on this glorious victory over the tea party trash.
Posted by: Moral Majority my ass! at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (7G4i0)
Posted by: Flag Waver at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (VcOqI)
I'm not surrrendering.
I will become more outspoken and obnoxious
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (dnQ1L)
How many of those 'want' to get married simply as a 'fuck you'?
Given the divorce rate we've already seen, I'd say quite a few.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: derit at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: Flag Waver at June 26, 2015 10:32 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (fWLrt)
Just. Don't. Care.
Can't even manufacture any outrage.
Posted by: jwest at June 26, 2015 10:30 AM (9ZZd+)
i bet if someone leaves their garbage can out for more than 24 hrs you go into an uncontrollable rage.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Eli Cash at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (a+WIL)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (/Ho8c)
However, with this Pope, I can see him issuing an order to force priests to marry anyone who wants to get married in a Catholic Church.
Posted by: MacGruber at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (FEAjO)
protected class that needs to be put on a pedistal and praised to
assuage their own emotional defects.
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 10:16 AM (39FGM)
Exactly!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (+uomA)
Bandersnatch, you're not kidding me? Roberts really wrote that?
America's institutions have quite literally collapsed and become as ridiculous as the arbitrary mechanisms of Third World and authoritarian countries. With the arrogant lack of self-awareness that usually is found in those cases.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Colin at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (VVrB8)
individual autonomy"
So I finally get to sue the guys who refused to marry me?
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: bystander at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (hKyl0)
But that may be the next kind of case coming down the road, but I actually believe they would NOT rule against the Church in this instance, but I've been wrong before.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (wq4B0)
I'll say you're wrong. Of course they may not bother with that step and instead just try to get every single person that attends that church fired from their jobs. You're a teacher and you go to church? Fired. You're a cop and you go to church? Fired. Can't have any "bigots" doing jobs like that.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (Uq9ly)
Which one will have to park over the oily spot?
Posted by: jwest at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (RD7QR)
Ah, but Jesus foresaw this. He said, "The gates of Hell shall not prevail against the builder church."
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (Uq9ly)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (2Ojst)
You are the losing side as usual. This time the fairies kicked your collective asses.
Conservatives are losers!
Posted by: Moral Majority my ass! at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (7G4i0)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (Iv/Hw)
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (xWW96)
What will they whine about after that happens?
Posted by: Hank at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (e2GNw)
If someone asks our opinion we can give it to them, right?
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (uYIF2)
Posted by: Hope@ZeroKelvin at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (IC15i)
Using the same logic, why can't I sue because they refuse to allow me to take communion?
So what if I am Jewish.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Bru at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (NKA8w)
I won't be flying a flag on July 4, but I might just be burning one in protest.
Posted by: Jaws at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (Jktp1)
Posted by: Insomniac
----------------
The lawyers have them both covered.
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (fWLrt)
The thing is, that has been the whole issue from the get-go. It's what is behind the baker problems et al: 'we are going to bully and persecute you because you told me that being gay is a sin'. They now have the lop-side force of the government 100% on their side so brace yourselves for the prosecution as no Christian is going to be protected by the First Amendment or your local government.
They've successfully turned this into a "civil rights" issue. Unfortunately those that have argued against it have ignored solid science such as the Twin Studies that show that homosexuality is NOT genetic (check my sig link).
Posted by: Arcadehero at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (f7UVF)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (l/N7H)
But that may be the next kind of case coming down the road, but I actually believe they would NOT rule against the Church in this instance, but I've been wrong before.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:29 AM (wq4B0)
Can a pastor refuse to marry a biracial couple based on only that? Can a church refuse to do so as well. If they did what would happen?
(I don't know - really)
Posted by: blindside at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (oEM6c)
The National Anthem is really a drinking song, so, let's have at it!
Threadwinner. And I expect this will be the most sensible thing I'll read all day.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Nick in South Bend at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (zOWjo)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (Bn6aD)
It's something to see all those Jack Chick tracts that seemed so absurdly over-the-top becoming real.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (oVJmc)
So.... one can be on the lookout for Inc. rather than Apostolic churches?
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (KCQo0)
We're already on that one - starting next year.
Posted by: Your Fairfax County, Virginia School Board at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (rdjj7)
---
we'll settle for you kneeling
Posted by: gaystapo at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (/eTPT)
212 138 Happy for those who want to get married.
How many of those 'want' to get married simply as a 'fuck you'?
Given the divorce rate we've already seen, I'd say quite a few.
Straight people get divorced in pretty significant percentages. For instance, me.
Marriage is not a 'fuck you', it's a way for teh gheys to get equal footing before the government on tax, inheritance, health care and other life issues.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Kracken at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (ibvmu)
Posted by: Jaws
---------------------
Everyone should at least fly it upside-down.
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (fWLrt)
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (x3GpS)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (xWW96)
Incidentally, didn't a court recently rule that chimps in a zoo were "persons"?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM
Nah, bro. It's implied.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (h4vJk)
You should be happy. Next they will rule you can screw little boys like you do. Child rapist.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (Q4pU/)
http://tinyurl.com/d7pmvsy
Antoine Dodson
Hide Ya Penises...
I'm NO LONGER GAY
Antoine Dodson - the flamboyant home intruder thwarter - says he's 'no longer into homosexuality' ... so you can run and tell THAT, homeboy.
Actually, Dodson posted a statement on Facebook explaining that he's decided to 'renounce myself' - because, 'I want a wife and family, I want to multiply and raise and love my family that I create.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (fWAjv)
South American are already here and part of this nation's fabric. In fact they are socially more accepted than conservative trailer park moochers like you.
You are a loser!
Posted by: Moral Majority my ass! at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (7G4i0)
Posted by: The Chicken at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (VPLuQ)
Like a lot of people, I used to not care - live and let live and all that.
Except *they* can't let others lie and let live, they had to start harassing religious people, protesting in the middle of a Mormon church service, targeting religious businesses and suing them for not servicing their weddings, etc.
As Ace said above: You will be made to care.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (NOIQH)
If that includes Black Churches that are only fronts for the DNC then I might be in for that?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: Lizabth at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (Qeh6Q)
That was ALWAYS the intent.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: gaystapo at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: Naes at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (YhayY)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (AkOaV)
Bandersnatch, you're not kidding me? Roberts really wrote that?
Yeah, first link. How he squares that with yesterday is beyond me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Flag Waver at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Mindy at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (BkhqT)
You know they already do that, right?
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (RD7QR)"
Bingo
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Moral Majority my ass! at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (7G4i0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (VPLuQ)
Everyone should at least fly it upside-down.
Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (fWLrt)
That's what I will be doing.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (Q4pU/)
Earlier today:
Byron York
37 states have gay marriage: 8 by legislative action, 3 by popular vote, 26 by court order.
Democracy. Republic. Laws. *shrugs*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (kdS6q)
Justice Alito, Thomas & Scalia are my favorites!
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (sj3Ax)
Fuck the GOP
Posted by: HowardDevore at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (1lln4)
None of that matters, Kennedy is the king of the world right now, he answered the call of history. As Senator Collins eloquently put it defending another egregious decision.
I'm sure San Francisco will now give Kennedy the keys to the city.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 10:36 AM (h4vJk)
If the intent of the proprietor was to have a flaming skull, then there is a flaming skull. It is so ordered.
- SCOTUS
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (AkOaV)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/unspinthespin/
And join. The group is now called "Nullification NOW"
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (YYJjz)
When a pastor gets arrested for not marrying gays are there going to be jokes about prison rape to go along? Will the cops sneeringly threaten to throw them "in with Bubba"?
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Eli Cash at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (a+WIL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (wq4B0)
importance to the committed individuals";
_____________________
Really? The Muslims and the Mormons, among other groups with centuries of polygamy tradition in their history, beg to differ.
There is nothing more inherently special or "important" about a two-person union than a three-person union, or four or six or eight person union.
This is the problem that activist judges run into when they begin their decisions with the result they want, and then try to "reason" backwards from there.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (kGrdk)
Yeah remember the good old days when we were told we had to vote Republican because of JUDGES.
Fuck the GOP
Posted by: HowardDevore at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (1lln4)
GOPhuckyourselves
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (0O7c5)
Justice Alito, Thomas & Scalia are my favorites!
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 10:37 AM (sj3Ax)
Wayward Pines is pretty good. I wasn't sure what to expect, then it got...interesting.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (/Ho8c)
I miss that skull.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (AkOaV)
Jeebus. I'm in a mood and idiot trolls are raising my blood pressure.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:38 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: weew at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (EaEMG)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (Bn6aD)
Single people still an inferior second class, though. Including the single gays.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (ZKzrr)
The goal was/is to destroy the institution of marriage. Even posted this in plain language. They decided to start w/SSM - this is not ending any time soon:
http://beyondmarriage.org/full_statement.html
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Sit Down Comic at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: derit at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (jT+gh)
Justice Scalia's comment is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
Wow. I'm just speechless with this garbage.
Posted by: prescient11 at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (2Ojst)
- SCOTUS
Posted by: mynewhandle
Nice.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (rdjj7)
We already have it. It's called the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (KkVB6)
If you are a liberal, the good news today is tempered by the fact that we are all going to die of climate change.
Truer words..."
No. As soon as Ramadan is done ISIS is coming for the rest of us.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Arcadehero at June 26, 2015 10:34 AM (f7UVF)
It's worth noting that the activist class is starting to move away from the "born this way" argument . It's too limiting.
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (39FGM)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (KkVB6)
only until around noon tomorrow.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Dusty Springfield at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:40 AM (wq4B0)
The fact you even have to do that shows you live in a fascist police state.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
marriage support is not so much "I am happy for the freedom" as it is
"LOL the h8er Republicans are sure going to go nuts over this!"
If they really thought we were as violent as they claim they'd be in hiding, wouldn't they?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (oVJmc)
So now I know why my Chevy has trouble starting once a month.
Posted by: Owns Chevy at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (wkuqO)
It's because they can't stand being ignored.
You know how much this ruling affects me?
0.
As ace pointed out, in polite company I'm not going to turn to the gay couple at the party and say "I disagree with your relationship."
Hell, one of my wife's bridesmaids came out as lesbian (which wasn't a huge surprise) about a year after our wedding.
Banning gay marriage in several states doesn't stop them from doing...well anything. For that matter it didn't stop people from saying they were married even.
In short it did absolutely nothing.
I'm going to do what I did, just keep ignoring them. If they seek to go to war with the religious institutions, so be it. If they want to destroy the country over their desire to be paid attention to, honestly there's really nothing we can do to stop them because they're fucking crazy and you can't stop crazy.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (s92xH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (wq4B0)
A FEDERAL constitutional right. So if you fail to bake a cake for a gay wedding, it will now be a FEDERAL case, not a state case. A FEDERAL CASE.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Sit Down Comic at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (VcOqI)
Pope Bendict was saying the future is akin to the Parable of the Mustard Seed, with the Church going underground for a time, maybe centuries. And, stepping down was maybe being a role model.
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (3ZtZW)
Kennedy was the deciding vote, right?
I wrote a paper in graduate school about the Lawrence case so I'm not surprised at all. Immoral Tony was the magic vote on that one as well.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: ace at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
Yeah and your point?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (xWW96)
If the American RCC decides to go private and go their own way on this and practice what they preach I might actually consider going back to church again, but lets be honest. Even if they do that, they're still going to get sued into oblivion by people who want to be married in a church that by their own religion does not believe in homosexual marriage. We've already seen private individuals get ruined by activists playing lawfare, public or private isn't going to matter going forward.
A boot, forever pressing down on our faces. That's our future. That's our present.
Posted by: Gaff at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (jPS2y)
154 - wow, I mean WOW.
THAT is the "reasoning"? Not a single one of the 4 tick points stands up to scrutiny, AND they contradict each other, AND three of them "beg the question" (kids remember what that really means?).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (QDnY+)
However, on the other hand, G&L deserve equal rights and privileges and protections as does every other American according to the Constitution. That includes rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness which cannot happen if one cannot pursue the intimate relationships of one's dreams.
Those with religious beliefs that denigrate (or worse) G&L were not rendering unto Caesar, and they were as acting authoritarian rather than American-republican. If Republicans long ago had acted according to the Constitution and made certain that G&L had all rights and privileges as every other American by developing a law that gave equal legal and personal responsibility rights under another title, e.g., "Partner" for "spouse", I don't think this issue would have come to the Supreme Court in this way. It has been way too late for quite awhile because no appropriate action was taken in a timely manner. Republicans/conservatives must take an equal (at least) share of the "blame" for this decision.
Posted by: pyromancer76 at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (zvcr8)
Could it be more plain? Madison called a tyranny like this a reason for revolt, and Scalia all but said the very same thing. Scalia could simply have reprinted Federalist 47 here and called it a day.
I presume his Justice Department subpoena is shortly to be delivered.
Posted by: John Galt at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
Yeah and your point?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (wq4B0)
Just an observation.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:39 AM (Bn6aD)
"What is your view on the Supreme Court ruling on SSM?"
They still will.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Sit Down Comic at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (uYIF2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Gomer Pyle at June 26, 2015 10:10 AM (W5DcG)"
I bet Jim Nabors is tickled pink.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (xm2dE)
that'll be imposed by lower courts through stare decisis.
now any "arrangement" is open to being defined as "marriage."
Which is almost fine with me. I hope some activists on our side work to make it as ridiculous as possible in order game the tax code and tax system.
Nothing will make the left try to change this ruling faster than if an entire fraternity or other large organization or someone sues under "equal protection" be to able to be "married" so that they can get huge tax write offs, and claim everyone as dependents or whatever.
Or a rich guy with one wife and no minor children. Try to marry his entire family so that he can claim more people as dependents.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:43 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: donna
Serious question. why do I care? A Republican President appointed John Roberts. The most corrupt CJ in the history of the court.
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 10:44 AM (rdjj7)
Posted by: Moral Majority my ass! at June 26, 2015 10:44 AM (7G4i0)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:44 AM (2Ojst)
Gray Boys
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 10:44 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (oVJmc)
Disbelieve that if you want but as you see us heading more and more in that direction, I'll let you explain to me how the most amazing coincidence in the history of mankind is taking place.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (bGLSw)
see the Scalia updates; he's saying we don't have a democracy anymore.
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Ace, no surprise there. As I said upthread, the court yesterday said that the federal government is not limited by the laws as written, therefore I am not obligated to follow them.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (COpZ4)
Posted by: gaystapo at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (/eTPT)
Ferguson, King v. Burwell, federal right of gay marriage, illegal immigration, the global war on Christianity. This nation may not see the year 2020.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (KCQo0)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 26, 2015 10:31 AM (Uq9ly)
Which one will have to park over the oily spot?
Posted by: jwest at June 26, 2015 10:33 AM (9ZZd+)
This is why I love the Horde so much.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (RD7QR)
What do you mean by "Next" step?
Have you been living in a cave?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (wq4B0)
Point of order: What we had was a representative republic.
What we have now is open to interpretation. But it certainly isn't what we started with nor what was envisioned by the Founders.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (eEb+d)
Didn't Kagan officiate a Gay marriage?
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (oVJmc)
A previous commenter said that we should always use air quotes around gay "marriage". Support gay "marriage", but always put up air quotes. What a beautiful "wedding". It's nice to finally meet your "husband".
Posted by: Old Hob at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (NBhge)
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (cbfNE)
Where in the Constitution is that written?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: gaystapo at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: derit at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (zHv1E)
It at least relied on the good faith assumption of the laws of one state being honored in another.
the refusal to accept that plain faced definition so as to avoid overturning the entire law in king and the other of disparate impact will be more destructive and have no basis in reason.
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. The one where they nullify the clarification they made to the 2A and the loosening up of the law concerning open and concealed carry.
I can't imagine them letting those stand given the about turn that Roberts seems intent on making with this court.
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (x3GpS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: ace at June 26, 2015 10:42 AM (bhepQ)
Scalia has known this for a while...he just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: blindside at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (oEM6c)
This ruling is horrifying. It is a destruction of the manner in which this Republic is to function. It is a disaster and it will lead to actual persecution of religion in direct violation of the First Amendment, which language will be ignored by the Courts.
I am opposed, vehemently, to this ruling. I am, seriously, terrified as to the view of judicial oversight set out in King, the disparate impact case and now this.
The last few days have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that our rulers are determined to rule us, no matter what we say.
I am now a subject, not a citizen. I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - thanks for all the fish at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (mf5HN)
Achmed the Dead Terrorist just tweeted me asking for my hand in marriage. Achmed can go fuck himself, and also the idiot who controls his mouth.
Posted by: Walter at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (P330y)
I really don't think many will marry. This isn't about wanting to marry. Not really
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (zHv1E)
you are correct.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (Q4pU/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (CdIQH)
Brianna Wu Spacekatgal*
In 2005, if you said wed have universal health care and gay marriage, I wouldnt have believed you.
Next train stop: TRANSGENDER RIGHTS.
*Head of Development at Giant Spacekat. Host of Isometric and Rocket on Relay.FM. Godzilla of tech feminists.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (kdS6q)
couple at the party and say "I disagree with your relationship."
I also have gay friends and I want them to be happy.But it's not, as they've pitched, about some sweet same-sex couple who just wants the opportunity to express their love openly and have it recognized by the government.
It isn't even that hard to find statements by the SSM activists admitting this - it's about destroying marriage by redefining it to legally recognize a whole host of relationships in order to get benefits, etc.That, and to harass anyone who has ever disapproved of their lifestyle choices. The lawsuits have shown that there's a revenge element - that no one will be allowed to publicly disagree with them. That's not about love.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Moral Magority at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 10:46 AM (zHv1E)
It's about overturning the 1st Amendment. The State is now almighty and all powerful.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - If your right eyebrow isn't twitching you simply don't care. at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (hLRSq)
EVERYTHING THAT IS TAKING PLACE MUST OCCUR for the ultimate
establishment of the one world government/economy/religion to be
established, as foretold in God's Word.
Disbelieve that if you
want but as you see us heading more and more in that direction, I'll let
you explain to me how the most amazing coincidence in the history of
mankind is taking place.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (bGLSw)
Yay! The freaks are crawling out from under their rocks.
Surely it's a sign of something. God's plan? Well, I wouldn't say that, exactly. But something.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Phaoroh Kennedy at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: owlpellets at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (YvTdG)
I must have totally missed the part where no American ever had a gay relationship until this morning.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (s/yC1)
Wow, 5-4, whoever could have guessed that? Why not flip a coin and save time/money?
I won't even bother reading the legal justification, because as yesterday's case proved, that no longer matters.
Results in search of rationales.
If "society" via state legislatures and voter referendums, doesn't have the right to define what a marriage is for the purposes of legal, social and economic recognition, who does define it? Answer - the Courts, and the Courts look to the definition of the person standing in front of them. In this case, it's a gay/lesbian. The next case will be 3-4 people. The next case will be siblings. The next will be underage, the next after that good old Santorum's man and dog. Why? Because marriage is a individual "right" and the definition is "individual" as well. It's not "subjective", up to each person. So long as you can convince one judge, you're all set.
"So what's the harm"? Guess what - you'll get to find out yourself.
For example, did the court say you have to be gay/lesbo to enjoy a same sex marriage? If not, I strongly suggest marrying friends or relatives, especially if you truly need financial support or benefits. You can always divorce later with no stigma. "Same sex" marriage is just that - same sex. Has nothing to do with sexual orientation. We'll get to discover those consequences together, wrapped under a big bright rainbow.
Next comes polygamy, because if sex doesn't matter, why should number? Better hope your state pension plan can adsorb survivors benefits for 3-4 spouses. Hint - it can't.
I formally wash my hands of the SCOTUS. Say whatever you want to about us Judges and lawyers. We deserve every bit of it. We are ruled by Stage One Thinkers and they will destroy us. Hell, they already have.
Posted by: Saltyron at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (i6shs)
If forced on, which would be exceedingly small at that point, I'm deciding against the State if it is a State case. I can prejudge, too, if that's where we are now. Ckuf it.
I mean what do you do at this point? Explicit law and the intent of law doesn't matter one bit. Our Court system is populated and ultimately trumped by people who either do not understand their job or do not care about law.
I'd be curious how SCOTUS would poll now. It's respect has been dropping pretty handily recently. The BS being shoved down our throats now cannot be helping.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (1CroS)
Posted by: Nikki's Extremely Dark Immigrant Cooter at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (XzRw1)
It is beyond him. I blame all the teachers for the past 40-50 years.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (St6BJ)
I am opposed, vehemently, to this ruling. I am, seriously, terrified as to the view of judicial oversight set out in King, the disparate impact case and now this.
The last few days have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that our rulers are determined to rule us, no matter what we say.
I am now a subject, not a citizen. I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - thanks for all the fish at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM
Well said
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (Bn6aD)
What do you mean by "Next" step?
Have you been living in a cave?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:45 AM (wq4B0)
=======
No, North Carolina
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (JBggj)
I don't believe that at all. I believe that Roberts wanted to seal his stamp on the court and this/these are the arguments he chose. There have been relatively few Chief Justices and even fewer who have achieved "immortality" by having their name prominently associated with the court they presided over. Had Roberts ruled solely based on the law and the results not been controversial, Roberts name would have been a minor footnote in history. Now, the Roberts court will be historical and I think this is all there is to Roberts decisions.
All he cared about, imo, was fame.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (BZAd3)
If so, why is 206 still up?
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (x3GpS)
After all, if 'gay marriage' is a 'right', despite having not mention anywhere in federal or constitutional law, surely an explicitly enumerated right has the same force?
Posted by: blindside at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (oEM6c)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (79zi+)
What the fuck does that even mean given that transgendered is a protected class in tons of places already.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (s92xH)
Posted by: Oh my achin' Huck at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM (St6BJ)
^This. The Free Exercise clause of the First Amendment will become a dead letter.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (2Ojst)
This is not the hill tho.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (wkuqO)
see the Scalia updates; he's saying we don't have a democracy anymore.
And he's right.
How I wish Obama would try to do a victory lap over gay marriage in Emmanuel AME Church today. That would go over in that crowd like a turd in a punchbowl.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (FsuaD)
This was done to us by the Soviets.
Google search for "1963 Communist Goals" and read it for yourself. "The Naked Communist" search works too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (FsuaD)
Oh, all sorts of choices.
- reassignment to another parish;
- placement on "inactive" status;
- "suggestion" from higher-ups that a pinch of incense to the GayKK is no big deal;
- removal from the ministry. . .
Shall I go on?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (zF6Iw)
That happened about three years ago, with the Obamacare ruling...
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (ZKzrr)
____________________
For now.
But there is nothing inherently special about a two-person union, despite the court's words. Lots of cultures, including Muslims and Mormons, have long traditions of polygamous marriage. They will argue, with some justification, that their multi-person marriages have the same level of commitment, and deserve the same level of legal recognition and protection, as everyone else's.
And, after all, why should polygamists "be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions"? Why should polygamists be deprived of the "dignity" afforded to every other interest group? It's clearly not fair.
So look for an "evolution" towards legalizing polygamous marriage in the near future.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (kGrdk)
However, to be married also conveys other obligations, whether they are wanted by the couple or not. The most obvious is that spouses share community property that must be divided in a divorce. They will most likely share each others debts.
It's a result that they may come to regret at some point.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (zpZLP)
This was about "full faith and credit," right?
As in because Mass. or CT or VT or wherever has gay marriage, all other states must recognize the paperwork from those states, right?
If that's the case -- well! if NH issues me a carry permit, then all other states MUST recognize that paperwork, too, right?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (oVJmc)
Has anyone considered the idea that the ruling yesterday is just one step on the plan to move on to another ruling adjudicating the 2nd A mutated to fit the "intent" of those making the "rulining".
That is to say the plan is to overturn the constitution.
Because we know they play the long game, and they know how to do it, and now they know what they can get away with.
This is very troubling. Very.
Posted by: Mr. AR10 at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (XB4r6)
And unfortunately you will be caught up in the backlash. I'm just comforted to know that you are well equipped to handle it.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (Q4pU/)
Posted by: ABC at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: What the? at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (a+WIL)
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You will one day come to understand that the 14th A amended the 1st.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (gmeXX)
gay "marriage". Support gay "marriage", but always put up air quotes.
What a beautiful "wedding". It's nice to finally meet your "husband".
Quote marks should be banned. They are hateful and bigoted. Isn't it time we move beyond this obvious symbol of hate?
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (1BQGO)
Jesus listen to this "Guy" on FOX outside the Court?
Effected much?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 10:49 AM (wq4B0)
(Jump to top of page)
i could feel the saliva from his lisp through my tv
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (CdIQH)
How quaint.
Scary, scary fucking times we are in.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (oVJmc)
The White House WhiteHouse 1m1 minute ago
At 11am ET, watch @POTUS speak on today's marriage equality ruling. #LoveWins http://go.wh.gov/LoveWins
And if you go to the actual tweet, the logo is the White House in gay rainbow colors.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (kdS6q)
Forgetting the issue of homo marriage, the real issue is the complete dismantling of our system of government, representation and separation of powers.
We are adrift, chained to each other below decks with a madman at the helm and his minions driving us between Scylla and Charibdes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (St6BJ)
F C U K I N G
first came the pictures
then came the threat
Here comes tyranny
in a court house set.
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Lizabth at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (Qeh6Q)
They'll find that it won't work as well as they expect, I suggest.
There are lost of progtard universities around here that have already found ways to accommodate gays.
Insurance for example allows for a "Self-Plus 1 adult" or "Self-Plus 1+minors."
They simply removed marriage status from the equation.
Guess what, this means that even if you get your polygamy recognized (which I'm sure this place would celebrate with you) no benefits for spouse number 2 (unless they're under 26 I guess)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (s92xH)
Surely whoever programs his teleprompter is not that obtuse. But I'd laugh my ass off.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (Bn6aD)
* * *
If that's aimed at me, fine. But Christ Himself said that it would be just like the days of Noah before He returned. Our society just took a couple of light year's jump in that direction in just the last two days.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (bGLSw)
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You will one day come to understand that the 14th A amended the 1st.
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The same amendment that applied the 1st to the States will now be read to have removed the free exercise right.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (WvXvd)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (nFdGS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (St6BJ)
At this point what difference does it make?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (1CroS)
Today marks a milestone in equality for all, and I'm proud to announce the engagement of Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor who will marry on or about the 4th of July in celebration of their long standing commitment to each other, and recognition of America's separation from English tyranny and also liberation from America's tyranny against people who love the same sex.
Posted by: Justice Kennedy at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (P330y)
Right. My work offers insurance benefits to "same sex domestic partners" but not to "opposite sex domestic partners."
In other words, I have to marry my girlfriend if she wants to be on my health insurance.
That sounds discriminatory to me. Why do gay couples get special rights? Especially since gay couples have just as much ability to get married here as I do.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (CdIQH)
Say what now?
That's cray-zee talk.
Posted by: Former Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (NOIQH)
"Suck my throbbing uncircumcised member bitches."
Posted by: owlpellets at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM
But that was just dicta.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Milesdei at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (q7RPx)
resign and let Obama replace them with 3 more social justice warrior justices?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Judge Ruth Baader-Meinhoff at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (DNBts)
Right, because they've been very careful not to shack up until now.
Posted by: this weepy shit passes for a Supreme Court ruling? at June 26, 2015 10:53 AM (ZtFr+)
Exactly. They can't get legislation passed restricting the second amendment or getting rid of it. So, now they just go around to the other branch that is willing to play ball. Draft a shoddy bill knowing it will get to the court and then have the 5 or 6 traitors redefine the language and impose it on the entirety.
We are in a scary place right now.
Posted by: What the? at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (a+WIL)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:51 AM (CdIQH)
69-ing with Elena Kagan.The Rule Of Law is over. We are entering The Rule Of The Anus.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (GsebS)
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (JBggj)
Hit? They just slit its throat and raped the corpse.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (zt+N6)
We told you this was going to happen.
Not one single American has standing on any issue. You are being ruled and are disposable. They are just making shit up.
You mocked birthers. Now enjoy your own serfdom.
For those who still don't get it. When they take your retirement accounts...nobody will give a shit because you will have no standing.
Words have had no meaning since the coup of 2008.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (6zSiC)
that it would be just like the days of Noah before He returned. Our
society just took a couple of light year's jump in that direction in
just the last two days.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (bGLSw)
Yes, it's aimed at you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (TOk1P)
Oh fuck this shit. I live in loneliness, but you don't see me trying to destroy cultural institutions and the rule of law over it.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Chief Justice Darth Roberts at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (oVJmc)
Tyranny by black-robed judges is no less oppressive that tyranny by black-booted stormtroopers.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (KCQo0)
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Bizarre times when we're looking fondly forward to Muslims standing up for traditional Amercian Values. Because we don't think anyone else will.
Posted by: ABC at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (/eTPT)
How I wish Obama would try to do a victory lap over gay marriage in Emmanuel AME Church today.
Surely whoever programs his teleprompter is not that obtuse. But I'd laugh my ass off.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)
CNN (or was it MSDNC?) breathlessly informed me this morning that Barry wrote the eulogy all by his special self, and will not be using a teleprompter!!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:19 AM (79zi+)
This. Every win by the left means we're just closer and closer to the inevitable. At this point, I kinda wanna hurry it along.
Posted by: tdpwells at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (V6jvb)
At this point what difference does it make?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (1CroS)
I would not be averse to that. In fact I'd applaud it. I'm still waiting for the first high level flag office to resign his commission over the destruction of our military and national security by an obvious enemy as C-in-C.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (fQAkR)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (AkOaV)
As I said, local University solved that here.
Heck I know one person who put her son on the insurance as self+1.
That'll be the dodge to avoid the polygamy problem.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (s92xH)
And Ian McKellan is grand meister or whatever this weekend. "6th Circuit, you shall NOT PASS!!!!!" memes to commence shortly. Which makes Christians the Balrog.
Posted by: LizLem, Flynn for the Win! at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (hvf9s)
gheys to get equal footing before the government on tax, inheritance,
health care and other life issues.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 10:35 AM (JtwS4)
Civil unions would have provided all that, but Big Anus wouldn't go for that. So you are wrong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (+uomA)
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (fQAkR)
Working on a PLR, I'd wager.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (2Ojst)
* * *
Fine with me. The hallmark of Noah's day, more than anything else, was utter lawlessness; everything else flowed from that. Just keep that in mind from here on out.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2015 10:54 AM (GsebS)
Vulvas Hardest Hit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 10:50 AM (Q4pU/)
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I sure hope that doesn't happen.
This case wasn't about gay marriage, really, it was about Federal versus State authority. SCOTUS decided here that one terribly worded phrase in an amendment gives them the power to completely undermine enumerated powers and force states to do something.
Fuck the Feds. This is not a centrally administered tyranny.
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: Mayor of SF at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (wkuqO)
In states where same-sex marriage was already legal, some companies were ditching that option--get married or get off the insurance.
One of the professional gay bullies at Slate was bitching earlier this week about the "freedom to marry" becoming "mandate to get married"--gays used to be able to form relationships in any of myriad ways, but now they're all gonna be expected to get married, like straight people are.
I laughed. A lot.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (ZKzrr)
conscientious objectors of the culture war, but these issues are off the
table, and should remain so for any serious contenders for the GOP
nomination.
========
And when we lose on all those next issues, those too will be "off the table."
I don't know how to tell you this without shouting but: EVERY FUCKING CONSERVATIVE SOCIAL ISSUE IS NOW OPEN TO ATTACK AND WE WILL LOSE BECAUSE TOO MANY LIKE YOU YET STILL RETREAT!!
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (ZvKdv)
Holy shit, I finally agree with Huckabee on something. The end times are definitely nigh!
Posted by: cajun caret at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (UZQM8)
_______________________
There is no need to "overturn" it.
The constitution has already been rendered completely meaningless.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (kGrdk)
Ace,
In Daily Signal this week one current rep wrote how we could get Term Limits & I'll look for it & email it to you! I put on Twitter one day this week. I'll retweet to you, because I can probably find it easier!
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (sj3Ax)
"No social transformation without representation!"
Antonio Scalia 2016!
#BanJiggeryPokery
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (fQAkR)
Buying salt in bulk, maybe?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (dsXUt)
Except we were not 'left to our own devices'. It was a conscious effort by the Soviets to inject a poisonous ideology into our public debate. It was a deliberate effort to undermine the very foundation of our government by feeding a feeling of resentment and feeding the idea of resisting military service.
It was a traitorous act by the Democrat party to prohibit any investigation of the anti war protest movements of the sixties to see if there was influence by foreign governments or foreign agents in those movements.
It should be clear now that the anti war protests of the sixties, the anti nuke protests, the environmental movement, immigration, health care, all of it, was taken over by agents of a foreign ideology and used to subvert legitimate government and destroy the very cultural foundations of the United States..
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (uYIF2)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (kff5f)
Surely whoever programs his teleprompter is not that obtuse. But I'd laugh my ass off.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)
Oh they definitely are. Remember the SCOAMF has talked up gay rights in Africa several times. They aren't too keen on it over there yet he's still done it.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (zt+N6)
Statement: Governor Jeb Bush on Todays Supreme Court Decision on Same-Sex Marriage:
"Guided by my faith, I believe in traditional marriage. I believe the Supreme Court should have allowed the states to make this decision. I also believe that we should love our neighbor and respect others, including those making lifetime commitments. In a country as diverse as ours, good people who have opposing views should be able to live side by side. It is now crucial that as a country we protect religious freedom and the right of conscience and also not discriminate."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 10:55 AM (fQAkR)
Buying salt in bulk, maybe?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (AkOaV)
D*mn meetings.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (kff5f)
I don't actually mind gay marriage. I have issues with the way it's being imposed, from above. I will be staying away from social media for a day or two I think, because the gloating will be annoying.
My main issue is the way this may affect religious institutions. There is no reason why a marriage cannot be conducted in a civil manner, by the court, and not be imposed on a church. That is how it should be done.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (UnJ7w)
They will say nothing and will do so because they got what they wanted and fuck you."
I agree that they'll say nothing; but it won't be out of apathy. I think the left's real agenda here is the destruction of the family, to be replaced with the state; tearing down institutions to rebuild society as they see fit. A side benefit for them will be increased numbers of non-procreative relationships -- the left is strongly Malthusian.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they actively pushed legality and favored tax status for all of those nutters you listed, and bestiality too. And marriage to inanimate objects -- once everyone gets the marital deduction, no one will have it, because they'll have to increase marginal rates on all to make up the difference.
But of course that's absurd. Just like the idea of pushing gay marriage was absurd, back when all they wanted was civil unions.
This isn't the end. It will never end because the left will not stop. They'll just keep nudging and ratcheting.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (LqrRo)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (79zi+)
Article 5 is about fixing some obvious weaknesses in the Constitution. It stlll needs a civil society to work. Obama, the houses, and the courts have proven words are meaningless.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (wkuqO)
Shhhh they were too fucking stupid to understand that the social cons were fighting this because it was *important* before, they're going to understand it good and hard now.
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (kGrdk)
Right. No need to ceremonially burn it.
Just say words mean ... well, whatever they want them to mean at any specific moment.
Then precedent and case law and stare decisis and... next thing you know, justices aren't looking to the Constitution at all, just to other justices pretzel logic, and looking to expand on.
It's been taking place for a while, obviously.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (79zi+)
Massive Civil Disobedience. We need a grass roots rally not for one day, but continuous and massive. All over the country.
I see no other way. Well, I do, but I don't really want to go there.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 10:47 AM
Bingo. Everything within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State. Where have I heard that, before...?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (oFCZn)
That's correct. Just look at the statistics for how children raised in a two parent, biological family are when compared to the other family situations. There's considerably more problems with the latter than the former and the left loves to use this to convince the public to enact yet more governmental programs to "correct" these problems. These programs don't work, naturally, and so they repeat the cycle.
And all the while, the left is able to concentrate yet more power into the hands of government this way. They're sick individuals and they need to be called out on it at every chance.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (RtXLW)
This didn't need to be this way and the only reason that it was done this way was to impose acceptance.
Fuck. Is there anyone on this blog that would feel good about being forced to accept something that you don't accept?
(It isn't really the next because it's already happening, but) The next centuries long tradition that will hit the shitcan will be the tradition of a constitutional republic.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (kff5f)
anything else, was utter lawlessness; everything else flowed from that.
Just keep that in mind from here on out.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (bGLSw)
Blah blah blah. The hallmark of people like you is the ego it takes for you to think you're living in special times.
You are not. You are witnessing the self-destruction of a once great nation. Not part of God's great plan. There have been other great nations before, there will be others again. This is the realm of humans. Doing really really stupid human things.
Do the world a favor, chum. Stick with God's plan for YOU. Leave the greatness for those who have earned it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (TOk1P)
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
* * *
That will soon take care of itself.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (bGLSw)
Not completely, as yet. I have some machine parts at home that say so. That is, today.
And that's my point, they have a goal, we know this.
And they are winning everything they go after.
Posted by: Mr. AR10 at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (XB4r6)
NO, NO, NO! Do not reward your enemy for his misdeeds by handing him three seats on the Supreme Court.
Alito, Scalia and Thomas are the Patriotic III Percenters of today's revolution. God bless them. Support them and use them as examples to follow.
Never give up. EVER.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (KCQo0)
trying to destroy cultural institutions and the rule of law over it.
*shoves H8 shake through the USB*
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:58 AM (kff5f)
Oh, right, work.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (AkOaV)
50 dead and 200 injured -- Islam for the win!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (iQIUe)
They may have already achieved this.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (RtXLW)
* * *
Not just me. So are you.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: wooga at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (W2mU3)
Only if you are a member in good standing of the Obama militia.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (W5DcG)
They should have spoken up when the Usurper was installed in 2009. They should have spoken up when the Usurper illegally installed two justices - Kagan and Sotomayer.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (6zSiC)
Posted by: Dan Patterson at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (eNvzg)
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Penis Up my ass! at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (g2DAI)
Yeah, Jeb, good luck with that.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: derit at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (kff5f)
Tired of the SSM ruling coverage he turns to me and asks, "So, can I marry my penis, mom?"
Future Moron.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (wq4B0)
Posted by: cajun caret at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (UZQM
And Trump is impressing me, not with his policies, but with the way he is fighting back at the media trying to slander him and does it with gusto. End times nigh!!!
Posted by: LizLem, Flynn for the Win! at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (hvf9s)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (Bn6aD)
gheys to get equal footing before the government on tax, inheritance,
health care and other life issues.
Bullshit.
Because civil unions weren't enough.
Posted by: Chief Justice Darth Roberts at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (oVJmc)
*shoves H8 shake through the USB*
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (ZKzrr)
*sips*
Ahhh, thank you!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (s92xH)
Posted by: Lifeisdeath at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (rJ47T)
I figured insomniac had it right on comment #466.
I do have some matches.
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (fQAkR)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (UnJ7w)
President X, January 21, 2017:
I hereby dissolve the Supreme Court of the United States of America and dismiss all judges.
I hereby dissolve and abolish the following: IRS, EPA, OSHA, ICC, FCC, HUD, DoE, DoE, BLM, BATF. . .
The Democratic Party.
(Stay tuned for more)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: wooga at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (W2mU3)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (so+oy)
Again, what difference does it make?
So, yes. It. Doesn't. Matter. It's like voting for the GOP at this point. This is a Progressive nation in the places that matter. Our culture has atrophied and our character fundamentally changed.
This ship is going down.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (1CroS)
The Constitution is being ignored by a small circle of corrupt politicians. They are people, therefore they are mortal and will pass.
The Constitution is an idea and it will outlive our present enemies.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (KCQo0)
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (s/yC1)
at least the days when an american could not marry a japansese are long gone.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (Gbx3O)
Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (Ui7Rt)
Ironically (or not so ironically anymore), conscience will hold no weight to counter the new "rule of law."
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:03 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: X at June 26, 2015 11:03 AM (foEhe)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 10:59 AM (kff5f)
I know the perfect flag for the movement!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:03 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: biancaneve at June 26, 2015 11:03 AM (HaVMa)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
I'm not so sure about that.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (/Ho8c)
Secession.
What other options are there?
Posted by: Dan Patterson at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (eNvzg)
Here, come sit next to me. I'll share my Krispy Kremes and Chick-fil-A peach h8t shake. We can quietly hum "Dixie" together. Until *they* come for us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (evdj2)
I think we are now beyond even an Article V at this point, going to have to get bloody.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (79zi+)
I hope your are wrong but I don't think so.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition greatest thing since before sliced bread at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (Ui7Rt)
And get shirts . . . that button from the other side.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: jim at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (VwhRo)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (vgIRn)
" There will be a legion of gay couple commercials hitting the airwaves in 5...4...3...'
You obviously haven't been watching the Tylenol commercial which has been airing for two weeks.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2015 10:15 AM (VPLuQ)
Or the Wells Fargo ghey adoption "we're your two mommies" commercial.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (vXKGT)
to be replaced with the state; tearing down institutions to rebuild
society as they see fit. A side benefit for them will be increased
numbers of non-procreative relationships -- the left is strongly
Malthusian.
THIS.
Nuclear family strongest bulwark against state power.
So destroy the family.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (xWW96)
Pretty much. I doubt I will ever fly the flag, field side up, ever again.
Now, the real persecution begins.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Battered ex-Republican in therapy at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (CFcIt)
Posted by: Mr. AR10 at June 26, 2015 11:00 AM (XB4r6)
Because the game is rigged. The referees are partisans, the supposed home team has been coopted.
the wonder is that they haven't opened the camps yet.
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (x3GpS)
AtC's comment should be on the front page and I'm not just saying that to get an uninfected blanket.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (JBggj)
======================
What a pandering piece of shit!
This isn't about gay marriage. Stop saying that!
States have the power to legalize gay marriage if they want to and some have. Gay marriage isn't at issue here.
This was about Federal authority. Its about the decision of nine unelected douchbags deciding what's best for citizens fully capable of deciding for themselves.
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (ck8TA)
No -- they're just getting started.
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (s/yC1)
Peak Liberalism is defined as the lowest point of a mass grave.
- -Sefton 2015
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (St6BJ)
What? No flaming skull, in your face post from Gabey?
Also usual on w workday, back to work.
Posted by: teej at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (K3Cm5)
"Guided by my faith, I believe in traditional marriage. I believe the Supreme Court should have allowed the states to make this decision. I also believe that we should love our neighbor and respect others, including those making lifetime commitments. In a country as diverse as ours, good people who have opposing views should be able to live side by side. It is now crucial that as a country we protect religious freedom and the right of conscience and also not discriminate."
Wow, real profile in courage, that guy.
Shit.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Biblio at June 26, 2015 11:05 AM (7o8VY)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 26, 2015 11:06 AM (dsXUt)
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BS, if what you say is true then the answer is to disassociate any benefits the government offers under the term marriage.
Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2015 11:06 AM (LXJ1e)
Not gonna happen, mosques will continue to be inviolate.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:06 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Nope. Because racist.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (/Ho8c)
I was going to suggest the rainbow flag, but instead of colors they would be black and white stripes. We're gonna be wearing them soon enough, so why the hell not?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (78TbK)
You can only use stupid punctuation, not smart punctuation.
9 times out of 10, its the ' and " that fuck it up. If they're curvy and not straight up and down it wont work.
So just go change those out and you can copy and paste.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: America's facebook page at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (/eTPT)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 10:56 AM (79zi+)
Can we fucking try it at least before we start tripping all over each other to poo poo an Article V solution again?
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (UnJ7w)
None have the character. None. Lack of action speaks for itself.
I laugh at those who still believe that should push come to shove, the military will stand in defense of the Constitution and protect the Liberty of citizens.
History proves it and we are close to living it.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (1CroS)
I sure hope he brings it up again at Emmanuel AME church.
Can't wait for their future pastor to refuse to marry a gay couple. Hilarity will ensue.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (FsuaD)
We'll probably start seeing halos around his head again... and songs... and references to magical powers and shit.
Fuck. I'm gonna be sooo drunk the next few days.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: jim at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (VwhRo)
It already started in Charleston.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 11:08 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2015 11:06 AM (LXJ1e)
Yes, that is the correct move to make, regardless.
remove "marriage" and the entire concept from all federal laws.
...FWIW, a flat tax wouldnt care if you're married, single, or have 30 wives.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:08 AM (AkOaV)
This. I wouldn't be surprised if they got an official exemption.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 26, 2015 11:08 AM (J9FkY)
I sure hope he brings it up again at Emmanuel AME church.
Can't wait for their future pastor to refuse to marry a gay couple. Hilarity will ensue.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (FsuaD)
I imagine those churches are or are soon to be infiltrated by such religious luminaries as Sharpton and Father Pfleger.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (CdIQH)
The government, using the logic of this case, can now call anything a
right. Using the logic of previous cases, anything the government wants
you to do, even against your will is a tax. Welcome to the USSA,
comrades.
Posted by: jim
----------If one can add, then one can also remove. Which means rights don't really exist then.
Very troubling.
Posted by: Mr. AR10 at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (XB4r6)
I do have some matches.
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 11:01 AM (fQAkR)
Actually, I'm oddly zen with this decision. As I said before: they're still not married. That's the thing: they can make the States acknowledge their faux marriages, but they can't make *me* do it.
Marriage is not something men just made up and could have made however we wished. It is an acknowledgement of biological and sociological facts, namely that men and women are different (biologically, sociologically, psychologically), that men and women are both required for procreation, and that a family (yes, with a mother and father) is the basic unit of society in the same way that atoms are the basic units of matter.
Nothing they do will make me stop believing that. Nothing they do will make me stop saying that. The burning times are coming- we have embraced Sodom and Gomorrah.
I'll be stocking up on crowbars, rakes, and salt.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (kff5f)
28 dead Tunisia and 25 dead Kuwait.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (vXKGT)
That shit has infiltrated everything from banking to cell service to graham crackers, FFS.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: Gaystapo at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (/eTPT)
This. I wouldn't be surprised if they got an official exemption.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 26, 2015 11:08 AM (J9FkY)
The law is what they say it is. Exemptions will be standard operating procedure for this, SCOTUS-care and Section 8 housing in the burbs.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (St6BJ)
Just passed the CNN monitor in the break room, he already is.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (O7MnT)
It is easy now to see a future in which Christianity will end as it began, with small groups of believers meeting in secret in homes, hoping they aren't ratted out to the government.
Posted by: Agent J at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (UnJ7w)
One can argue their orthodoxy but I'd say Waco. Some said at the time it was a test run and were promptly written off as crazy. We'll see.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Chief Justice Darth Roberts at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (BZAd3)
I quit drinking 3 months ago. It was starting to become a problem, I think.
Help me, please. Anyone. Got any 'ludes? Smack? Anything?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (oFCZn)
Read 'em and weep...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/922684/posts
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (RtXLW)
Posted by: Useful Idiots at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (CFcIt)
- Big Lebowski
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Not gonna happen, mosques will continue to be inviolate.
This. I wouldn't be surprised if they got an official exemption.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 26, 2015 11:08 AM (J9FkY)
Muslims are already exempt from Obamacare. Because they're "special."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (UnJ7w)
An Article V convention would likely accomplish nothing, and anything it did accomplish would put shit like this right in the Constitution, along with a right not to be offended and an all PIV is rape amendment.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:07 AM (UnJ7w)
Why go through all of that effort when it most likely won't work and that even if it does, SCOTUS and Congress will ignore any new amendments to come out of it?
The ignore our existing Constitution, why would they pay any more attention to an amended one?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (AkOaV)
Which he opposed a few years ago.
Commies lie.
Posted by: Chief Justice Darth Roberts at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (oVJmc)
Actually, I'm oddly zen with this decision. As I said before: they're still not married. That's the thing: they can make the States acknowledge their faux marriages, but they can't make *me* do it.
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No Allen, but they sue you for all of your assets, and eventually put you in prison while you think it over.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (79zi+)
Posted by: Thursby at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (tIkKD)
Probably why so many conservatives hate it.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (ZKzrr)
Let them take away the tax-exemption. I'm not even sure it should be fought.
The Church can survive the loss of a tax-exemption (if not we are in more trouble than we think).
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (gmeXX)
Awww. You expect logic, coherence, and consistency. That's adorable!
Did the tooth fairy leave you a nice shift quarter last night too? 8^)
Posted by: Jaws at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (Jktp1)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 26, 2015 11:04 AM (vXKGT)
Not to mention the slew of new "reality" shows including Brucelina "Caitlin", and a teen Boy who thinks He's a girl named Jazz and another "Father" who's transitioning to a "woman."
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (Bn6aD)
Won't have to . Just like the MSM has voluntarily censored itself regarding depictions of Mohhammed, and the entertainment biz has almost eliminated all Mulsim terrorists from their stories, no gay couple will be fool enough to attempt having a mosque host their wedding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (zHv1E)
As opposed to this week's earlier decision????
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (fQAkR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (qCMvj)
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BS, if what you say is true then the answer is to disassociate any benefits the government offers under the term marriage.
Posted by: Ken
the benefits were to provide for raising the next generation of citizens, a legitimate state interest, and marrieds were the proxy for that. now that the benefits have been extended, why are single people discriminated against? where is their equal treatment under the law?
when everyone is special, no one is.
Posted by: X at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (foEhe)
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (sxq57)
Which book? Something by Dan Brown. I must confess, I have not.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2015 11:12 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (oFCZn)
Yeah, let me just jump in my time machine here and go back to the '70s and grab some Quaaludes for you...
I mean come on, man! Ludes? Not in this century!
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (AkOaV)
There will be some nice sounding name like Retirement Years Stability Act.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (6zSiC)
Posted by: Chief Justice Darth Roberts at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (oVJmc)
Well, it just took him longer to come out of the closet...
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (39FGM)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Somebody at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (e1wJT)
Which he opposed a few years ago.
Commies lie.
No, no He "evolved" just like Hillary!
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (Bn6aD)
No, they won't. Only possible help from that quarter would be to encourage a Junta and live under that for a time. Which I have to admit is tempting.
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)
Where's the fun in that? They want yours.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (oDCMR)
They can't make you. But they will try to get you fired from your job.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: chief justice roberts at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (kivUY)
An amendment to overrule SCOTUS decisions would have saved us from today and yesterdays rulings since we control most of the State legislatures.
Or are we still gonna sit around and circle jerk each other for an imaginary revolution?
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (UnJ7w)
Probably why so many conservatives hate it.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (ZKzrr)
I don't know about that, but I can tell you I despise the progressive income tax structure and the use of it as a tool of social policy. The whole thing is rapacious.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (2Ojst)
began, with small groups of believers meeting in secret in homes, hoping
they aren't ratted out to the government.
Christianity has survived a lot over the years, I'm confident it will survive this. May change how we worship, but won't kill it.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (NOIQH)
28 dead Tunisia and 25 dead Kuwait.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:09 AM (iQIUe)
I heard about Tunisia. What happened in Kuwait?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (zHv1E)
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)
Where have you gone, Augusto Pinochet
Our nation turns it's blackened eyes to you . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Queens of Leon at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (OXzvH)
or go their separate ways.
Interestingly the main argument will be the divvying up of the real property.
there won't be much arguing about what's sinful and what's not. Those arguments have already been made.
This could actually be good for organized religion.
It's been being coopted by the government for years now with money. by refusing Government money, the Churches can be free to preach and act as they will.
For some this will be very costly but then they're the ones who have built their houses on the sand of materialism and deserve what happens.
the shake up will be the largest since Henry VIII abolished the monasteries.
What goes around comes around.
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (x3GpS)
Like marijuana.
heroin (smack) is a schedule II or III i believe, so you're good there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (CdIQH)
yourselves. You don't need a religious authority to do it for you."
* * *
Won't be good enough for them. Their desires MUST trump your conscience and faith. That is the end goal: if they achieve that, they will have total and absolute rule. Nothing short of it will be acceptable to them.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (Bn6aD)
As Obama tweeted ominously:
"Today is a big step in our march toward equality."
This isn't even close to the end. They are just getting started.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Erik in texas at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (4w/6s)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (oVJmc)
Apparently you're an ignorant ass, so I'll enlighten you. The Book, you know, The Bible. Pretty sure you've never opened it.
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (GrXXa)
This is about tyranny, Chief Justice Douchebag. This is about nine unelected lawyers posing a threat to American democracy. The Constitution exists for one purpose: to establish strict limits on a central government we must sadly permit to exist.
Today, the court shot that purpose full of holes. What can they possibly think happens next?
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (ck8TA)
Or are we still gonna sit around and circle jerk each other for an imaginary revolution?"
I'm all for it. And I would add that the States should be given the power to impeach and remove Federal judges and USSC justices from the bench as well.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (RtXLW)
These mother fuckers are just getting their momentum now.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (xSCb6)
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (zt+N6)
Ab so Fucking lootly.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (wkuqO)
I hereby dissolve the Supreme Court of the United States of America and dismiss all judges.
I hereby dissolve and abolish the following: IRS, EPA, OSHA, ICC, FCC, HUD, DoE, DoE, BLM, BATF. . .
The Democratic Party.
(Stay tuned for more)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:02 AM (St6BJ)
Why not? Yesterday's ruling gave the Executive branch authority to change a law from what it says into what the Executive interprets the intent. So, upon signing the first bill that comes to his desk, the President can say: "Where it says here that "June 24th is hereby declared to be National Bullfrog Appreciation Day" I interpret to intend that "Justices Roberts, Kennedy, Sotomayor, Breyer, Kagan and Ginsburg are to be imprisoned for life at Guantanamo Bay."
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (nFdGS)
Which government department will begin monitoring churches?
The IRS has it's hands full watching porn, going after conservatives, and campaigning for democrats.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (qCMvj)
Prisoner for Christ would suck, but I wouldn't be the first one.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (bGLSw)
You're right. Tolerance isn't enough. Acceptance isn't enough. You must participate and celebrate.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (2Ojst)
Too late for me. Under the current paradigm, I have given up. Our nation is a basket case and will not fix its problems because a) it has been transformed and b) we simply cannot. The die has been cast.
I'll be prepping for a new paradigm.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (1CroS)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (RD7QR)
oh, just a little bombing.
16 or so dead so far.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Zombie Rehnquist at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (gTfX/)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (kGrdk)
The Constitution is being ignored by a small circle of corrupt politicians. They are people, therefore they are mortal and will pass.
The Constitution is an idea and it will outlive our present enemies."
Quite so.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (xm2dE)
"Today is worse than yesterday, but on the bright side, it's better than tomorrow."
Ok, I paraphrased a bit.
Posted by: Marmo at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (QW+AD)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Dick Turpin at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (5uHp2)
despise the progressive income tax structure and the use of it as a tool
of social policy. The whole thing is rapacious.
Posted by: Insomniac
And is counter to the concept of equality before the law, IMHO. 10% is 10%.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (VAsIq)
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There is good reason for the Church to get out of the state marriage game. The Church should perform sacramental marriages, but perhaps it should avoid signing any marriage certificates (as it does now). For one, the form will be person A and person B, not man or women. The Church should not participate in this. Let the state define marriage for state purposes and let the Church define marriage for God's purposes. If (like me) you want more than a state marriage - you want a sacramental marriage - then I have to go the Church. If I then want to get the state recognition, I'd have to go in front of a judge. In other words, the Church should consider (and maybe even must) take the position that a Church marriage has no legal state effect.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:11 AM (2Ojst)
^^^^^! This should be fairly obvious.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Battered ex-Republican in therapy at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (CFcIt)
If you're in Libya (which it seems they are), Tunisia is the next logical step.
And Kuwait, well...
We shall see.
Could be a head fake, I think we'll seem them make serious inroads towards Mecca and Medina before the summers over.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (zt+N6)
If the state via the IRS and DoJ won't crush you directly, they will lean on any potential employer. Failing that, social media will publish your name and address and you will be an outcast.
Now I know what it must have been like to have a giant Jewish star painted on my store window.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Jeff Kelley at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (uON+c)
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (wkuqO)
Many will, along with a LOT of the leftist protestant orgs.
Mosques will go unasked.
Catholic Churches, and conservative Protestants like the Souther Baptists, will be targeted for destruction.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (oVJmc)
And, for me, that's when the shooting would start
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: SGTYork at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Uncle Argyll Wallace at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (zHv1E)
-the attitude which got it in everybody's faces.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (pUcjZ)
"Today is worse than yesterday, but on the bright side, it's better than tomorrow."
Ok, I paraphrased a bit.
Posted by: Marmo at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (QW+AD)
Putin to sue Spiral Staircase for "More Today Than Yesterday" in 5-4-3-2 . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (St6BJ)
kind of rich coming from someone who always supported the faggots no matter what.
Isn't it a little late for buyer remorse?
Posted by: fromabroad at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (t94Nt)
Posted by: junior at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (s1zlc)
This could actually be good for organized religion.
It's been being coopted by the government for years now with money. by refusing Government money, the Churches can be free to preach and act as they will.
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Churches were not coopted by government money. The government decided to replace the churches as benefactors to society in the giving of aid to the downtrodden.
Now, the government has decided to replace churches as the the arbiters of morality.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (79zi+)
DoJ.
They were very instrumental in getting a lot of mosques built under Holder, took on any zoning issues as a civil rights violation. I'm sure his successor will continue the fight.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (NOIQH)
Which government department will begin monitoring churches?
Organizing for America and Media Matters.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (oVJmc)
I get your point, but what you mean "we," paleface?
*bangs pots, blows whistle and points toward nic*
This has been done to me against my wishes. There is a clear line now separating the people from our government. I'd love to see a poll today that axes "Does this government have your consent?" The last time, that answer was less than 30%, IIRC.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (pUcjZ)
(1) Acceptance..."live and let live," as they used to bleat,
(2) Advocacy, forced by law if necessary, which is where we are now re: bakers and motels, and finally
(3) Annihilation of all remaining opposition, again by force of law.
We are about to enter Stage 3 in earnest.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (zHv1E)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (h4vJk)
I'll skip out early today.
With the boss's understanding, thank goodness.
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (fQAkR)
Posted by: Jeff Kelley at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (uON+c)
Said this upthread and for years now. THIS is a real civil rights movement.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Shit Status at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (jT+gh)
Follow Alabama's lead and make the state's role solely one of registering civil union contracts. Because making the Baptists conduct ceremonies at the point of a gun is next on the agenda otherwise.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (659DL)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (s/yC1)
Hopefully that can be put to rest with the All Powerful Swing Voter myth.
But I wouldn't expect our resident apologists to pay very much attention to history or results.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (xSCb6)
Serbia's mental institutions must have upgraded to broadband.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:21 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: keena at June 26, 2015 11:21 AM (RiTnx)
I love that people are still acting like there is some logical rational to these rulings. There aren't. They are just written gobbledy gook shit for pretense.
Roberts knows he's just making up shit.
They've been doing that since 2009. It's just finally hitting home with some.
Birthers were the Jews. They are just now coming for the rest of you.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:21 AM (6zSiC)
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:20 AM (bGLSw)
Destroy G-d and the family and all that is left is The State.
The homos, like every other grievance group, are just useful stooges to that ultimate end.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:21 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:21 AM (Bn6aD)
ISWYDT.
I get your point, but what you mean "we," paleface?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:19 AM (eEb+d)
Fair point. Against my wishes as well. "We" as in "The United States collectively."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)
I've been predicting for a while that Saudi Arabia falls by the end of the year. At the very least they'll be fighting an open and bloody civil war.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (10ydV)
And, for me, that's when the shooting would start
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:18 AM (sxq57)
At least someone has found a hill.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (wkuqO)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (FsuaD)
Government bought churches off a long time ago.
Said, "we'll make you tax exempt if you promise to never talk about politics."
I know people who refuse to go to tax-exempt churches for that very reason.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: SH
______________________
That's a big 10-4. Marriage is a sacrament, and a sacrament does not involve the equivalent of going to the local DMV and obtaining a license from the state. Sacraments are the visible symbols of invisible realities.
Posted by: Furious George at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (UlJ3l)
Socialism was, ahem, IS, a foreign ideology. However, the way the politicians interpreted their duty to defend the Constitution specified that our security people could only go after foreign agents and those directly supported by foreign agents.
The New Left was (IS) composed of citizens (/spit) fully committed to that foreign agenda; thier hostility was to the foreign agents, as they wanted the glory of running the death camps themselves. Because they were citizens (/spit), our politicians and security community treated them as dissenters, not the traitors they were (are).
The failure of our politicians and our security community has been a continuous process since then. In the 50's, Socialism was legally acknowledged as the enemy to America that it is. Yet the people tasked with defending the country failed to understand the full nature of the ideology, and to take the necessary steps that would have eliminated the greater part of that threat.
We are now reaping the results of that failure.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)
I've been predicting for a while that Saudi Arabia falls by the end of the year. At the very least they'll be fighting an open and bloody civil war.
Who cares ? because GAY MARRIAGE!
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (Bn6aD)
isn't it hilarious how 5-4 decisions are illegitimate until they agree with the Left's opinion.
It's unfair to demand Progressives have a majority.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Agent J at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (ueOgE)
Christianity will not end. Remember, "upon this rock I shall build my church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it."
Certainly, rough times are coming - here in America. But Christianity actually has always thrived under persecution. (It's growing very rapidly in China.) In fact, that's the problem - when societies prosper like the West has done, believers become complacent and decide they don't need God.
Well, people who are nominal Christians now will either fall away entirely or reaffirm their faith. The wheat's going get separated from the chaff.
It will not be easy. Jesus never promised it would be.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 26, 2015 11:23 AM (u0lmX)
Exactly. And if that "God" is lawless, lawlessness will be the law.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:14 AM (NOIQH
Christianity actually tends to thrive on adversity. It's probably not going to be fun, though.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (8/DeP)
Glue? I picked a bad week to stop sniffing it, so you can have mine.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (1CroS)
If push came to shove 3/4 of the States stop funding the federal gov't. We cut the money pipeline off the Federal gov't gets in line if not, it seems to me, the States have a moral and legitimate argument for revolution.
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (FsuaD)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:16 AM (kff5f)
I've been thinking a lot about that lately. I don't doubt Christians will be persecuted even more for their faith in this country, and elsewhere as well.
We've had it fairly good for the last couple of centuries. Perhaps God feels it's time for to weed his fields...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (wtvvX)
Except we were not 'left to our own devices'. It was a conscious effort by the Soviets to inject a poisonous ideology into our public debate. It was a deliberate effort to undermine the very foundation of our government by feeding a feeling of resentment and feeding the idea of resisting military service.
It was a traitorous act by the Democrat party to prohibit any investigation of the anti war protest movements of the sixties to see if there was influence by foreign governments or foreign agents in those movements.
It should be clear now that the anti war protests of the sixties, the anti nuke protests, the environmental movement, immigration, health care, all of it, was taken over by agents of a foreign ideology and used to subvert legitimate government and destroy the very cultural foundations of the United States..
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 10:57 AM (uYIF2)
In other words, Tailgunner Joe was right.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (GsebS)
Tempting? Hell, I'm openly rooting for it.
I like to call it the Big Green Reset Button.
No guarantees that what comes out the other end of that is a return to sanity, but I just don't see any other way to even have a shot at it anymore.
Unconstitutional? LOL! What's that?
Posted by: Jaws at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (Jktp1)
Can someone ban this psycho. I oppose gay marriage but I can do it without uttering "Faggot" every other sentence.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (zt+N6)
The church clergy is pretty liberal, so my guess is a 'courageous' priest starts performing gay marriages, and some Bishops sanction it, daring the Pope to try to stop them.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (pUcjZ)
Makes as much sense as anything he actually said so far.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (xm2dE)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (8/DeP)
As long as we can all agree to not tell each other what to do? Free speech is supposed to be insulting to some who hear it.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: navypopojojo at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (NABCa)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (zHv1E)
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: junior at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (s1zlc)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that.
* * *
That word aside, they, as a movement, want to use public education to indoctrinate other people's kids into anal sex and dildo.
How gentle do you really want to be?
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:25 AM (oDCMR)
The EPA--is there anything they can't do?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (JtwS4)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that.
WHY is "gay" the right word? Shouldn't it be "homosexual"? Why do the homosexuals get to pick what words mean and how they will be used?
Actually, I've been told it's a microaggression to call someone homosexual.
So, any help or advice would be appreciated.
Posted by: FUBAR at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (AIa9g)
"Today is worse than yesterday, but on the bright side, it's better than tomorrow."
Ok, I paraphrased a bit.
Posted by: Marmo at June 26, 2015 11:17 AM (QW+AD)
There's another Russian saying that might be appropriate: "When great forests are cut down the splinters will fly."
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (RD7QR)
To do so means accepting the blessing of the satanic state and participating in a service overseen by faithless clergy who bow to that state.
I would say civil war is the answer, but I see no reason to believe that my neighbors or former countrymen have the character to say no the filth of this 'government'.
Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (10ydV)
Yeah. If I recall, the prophecy requires the "army from Medina" to defeat the "army from Rome" in Dabiq, Syria.
Plus Medina is where Mo was reppin' when he set up his first mosque. And its al-baghdadi's peoples' hood, which is part of the prophecy as well.
Mecca, well, thats obvious.
And all devout muslims hate the KSA and the ridiculous way in which the royal family lives and rules.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (oDCMR)
*SOME* of us have seen this coming for quite a while, now.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (kff5f)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (8/DeP)
As long as we can all agree to not tell each other what to do? Free speech is supposed to be insulting to some who hear it."
Funny how everything is insulting except redneck.
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (xm2dE)
Now is the time for someone like Gov Abbott to say something like,
Barack Obama and his allies in the federal government have decided they have the right to overrule the 1st Amendment by fiat. The freedom of religion is one of the core values of this nation. He has now put us in the position of bowing to his wishes or following the Constitution as clearly written.
I cannot, and will not, allow the President of the United States to stomp on the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. As of today, the state of Texas is nullifying this ruling and the ruling enabling Obamacare. Texas will not abide by these outrages and will continue to follow the law and specifically the Constitution instead.
Additionally, as a sufficient number of states have called for an Article V convention, I am consulting with the other governors and state legislators across this nation as to the manner and place of the convention, which I am tentatively scheduling to start this summer.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (78TbK)
Do you *really* think the socialists care about the rights of homosexuals?
They do not.
They are out for one thing only, your constitution. And your machine parts.
Very troubling.
Posted by: Mr. AR10 at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (XB4r6)
Communist Goals to overthrow America as read into the Congressional Register 1963.
Read 'em and weep...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/922684/posts
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:10 AM (eEb+d)
The origin of the list is from Cleon Skousen's book, The Naked Communist, first published in 1958.
Side note: I have a signed copy of TNC. Found it at a garage sale in hopelessly snooty and lefty Leningrad-With-Palm-Trees, otherwise known as Santa Barbara. Finding a Birch'y book in that setting always makes me giggle.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (vXKGT)
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (8marX)
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: James Madison at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (ck8TA)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (39g3+)
They are just written gobbledy gook shit for pretense.
Authentic frontier gibberish.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (sUgON)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:15 AM (RD7QR)
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Kaboom! At a mosque....
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (6zSiC)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: FUBAR at June 26, 2015 11:26 AM (AIa9g)
Homosexuality is either a chosen deviance or a mental disorder (probably a mix of both).
And that's not religion talking. That's evolution. I would no more discriminate against a homosexual than I would someone with manic depression. That doesn't mean I want an entire group of them, small as they are, shaping the culture of our nation.
Tolerance does not mean acceptance. I'm getting angrier by the moment.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (St6BJ)
This won't solve the crisis we're in right away but it will make it possible to recover at some time in the future.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (RtXLW)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (xm2dE)
THIS
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (FsuaD)
Religion of peace!
Religion of peace!
Ramadan Mubarak!
Ramadan kareem!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (KCQo0)
Posted by: mormons at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (/eTPT)
How can they ignore the second amendment?
How can they ignore the majority of states who don't want to implement Obamacare and who sued ... twice?
How can they ignore... whatever?
They can, and they do. Routinely.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (AkOaV)
There's another Russian saying that might be appropriate: When great forests are cut down the splinters will fly.
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There's one more Russian saying that might be appropriate:
'Its 10 am somewhere.'
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (79zi+)
Scalia's dissent: Has anybody read the Constitution? Three branches? States' rights? Bueller?
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (pS7Ne)
Posted by: Zadira at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (48Zw4)
The SCOTUS reached its nadir with Roe v. Wade, so the last two days are not news in that regard. But in the current climate, I would say they feel like the beginning of the end. Maybe it's just that I was too young to understand in the early 70s.
If we cannot effect a reversal via article V, then its time for the national divorce.
Posted by: Texas Dan at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (6tXy4)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (oDCMR)
I'm getting married in the morning
Ding, dong, the bells are gonna chime
Pull out the stopper, we'll have a whopper
But get Ace to the church on time!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (iQIUe)
Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be.
Uhh... Isn't that exactly what Roberts did in yesterday's ruling?
Posted by: Big McLargehuge at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (u9OP6)
Get him in front of the cameras and make his mouth move.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (St6BJ)
Like 'cracker,' I think THEY think it's a lot more impressive than I do.
I frankly think it just sounds stupid.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (oVJmc)
How can they ignore the majority of states who don't want to implement Obamacare and who sued ... twice?
Because no one fights back.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (kff5f)
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We should push for the elimination of the charitable tax deduction.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
Put on your Manzanar retard camp til you realize what the word war means. Also other than the sucky accomadations sp? and Grand Theft All Your Property the Japanese-Americans in question were better off there rather than in the inevitable (it really was a vicious war) race riots they'd have been killed in.
Posted by: DaveA at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (DL2i+)
I don't know... It seems they put the word"two" people in this probably to stop that from happening...
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (xm2dE)
THIS
Posted by: Jane D'oh
+1
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (pUcjZ)
This.
My money is on Cardinal Dolan "welcoming" the first gay marriage in St. Patrick's Cathedral. Because "tolerance."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (zF6Iw)
Very true. Before having his head cut off, the apostle Paul - who evangelized pagan Asia - lamented that all in Asia had abandoned him (2 Tim 1:15; 4:16), leaving him with only a handful of faithful friends who would even be seen with him. Persecution invariably strengthens the true and weeds out the false.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: dbot1800 at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (pW9OW)
Uhh... Isn't that exactly what Roberts did in yesterday's ruling?
The Court exists now to provide a rationale for what the power structure wants.
It doesn't have to be honest.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (oVJmc)
I hear you, but my objection to such language is practical as well as philosophical.
Dude has a right to free speech and I'm not telling him what to do ... if he wants to talk like that on his own time I couldn't care less.
But on an intelligent, self-policed site like this where the proprietor gives us broad latitude to express our opinions, that kind of stuff is (i) lame argumentation and not up the standards we set here, and (ii) directly contrary to what Ace has asked us to refrain from on countless occasions.
Calling people faggots is like using the n-word. Is it the worst thing in the world? Probably not, but it's also not funny, smart or helpful. I'm just encouraging the guy to show a modicum of restraint.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: NCwoof at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: no you don't get to write your own vows at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (foEhe)
Posted by: steevy
While true, the main reason is that rednecks are one of the last "acceptable" groups to negatively stereotype in mass media.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (St6BJ)
Isn't faggot another name for fascist?
The words are related. A fasces is a bundle of sticks as in the old meaning of faggot. The sticks bundled together are strong and can't be broken, which was Mussolini's metaphor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (JtwS4)
If only it were as simple as that...
Posted by: donna at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (Bn6aD)
Uhh... Isn't that exactly what Roberts did in yesterday's ruling?
Dude, that was like, yesterday.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (O7MnT)
***
As recently as 10 years ago the Left routinely gay baited homosexual Republicans.
Gay marriage is a tool to attack Christianity, no more, no less.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (78TbK)
politicians. They are people, therefore they are mortal and will pass.
The Constitution is an idea and it will outlive our present enemies.
Until action is taken to impose it on DC, what difference does it make that the idea is still floating around?
Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (XUKZU)
Nope, sorry, you're still not married. You're playing house.
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (sxq57)
He needn't have bothered, we knew it long ago. It takes especially intellectually gifted lawyerly types not to see it coming?
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (xm2dE)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (/eTPT)
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." Padme Amidala
I'd like to point out again that the douche who wrote that (Lucas) is undoubtedly clapping the loudest at this very minute.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (oVJmc)
Isn't faggot another name for fascist?
The words are related. A fasces is a bundle of sticks as in the old meaning of faggot. The sticks bundled together are strong and can't be broken, which was Mussolini's metaphor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:32 AM (JtwS4)
You will note the reverse side of the dime. Behind FDR's profile are the fascis.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (sxq57)
I have said for years that gay incestuous polygamous marriage is the estate planning of the future. Warren Buffet and his grandson are going to be so happy together.
Posted by: no you don't get to write your own vows at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (foEhe)
...well, it was just a natural extension of Griswold v. Connecticut.
Which was nowhere near as offensive (constitutionally) as Wickard v Filburn or Heart of Atlanta Hotel v the US.
This didnt start with Roe, trust me. It's been going on for a lonnggg time
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: doug at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (IYEs/)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:28 AM
Wait...they had breakfast? I thought this was Ramadan.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (h4vJk)
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No you can't, because marriage is between a man and woman, regardless of what 5 people in black robes in D.C. say.
And if you truly loved that person you would not engage in sodomy with them.
Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (LXJ1e)
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Congrats. Be aware that if your partner has student debts, they will be your debts.
And have fun pushing back on people who will urge you to sue XYZ company for not catering your wedding.
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (cbfNE)
Yikes. I'm out of here. Have a good day all.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Decaf at June 26, 2015 11:27 AM (xm2dE)
But I can call myself one, right?
Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (fQAkR)
Posted by: NAMBLA at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (VAsIq)
Brilliant Jeb. Tell me how I , as a Christian, can choose to not honor, participate in and acknowledge a behavior by two "individuals" unless I use my sense of discrimination to guide my own behavior?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (OB/ib)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
Hell, if you love your dog why not marry it too?
Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:34 AM (AkOaV)
Dred Scot
Plessy v Ferguson
Wickard v Filburn
Koramatsu
Those are probably the worst of the worst.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM (kdS6q)
Courage!
Posted by: barack obama as Augustus at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM (5DdVJ)
But after today, I can marry the person I love. It's as simple as that.
If I really believed it were as simple as that, I would be ok with it. (except for its' coming through the judicial branch, not the states).
Once I believe that was all it was. And then I saw people being run out of town for answer hypotheticals about catering pizza weddings. It's hard to make me more cynical, but that did it.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM (lIU4e)
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Hello Koramatsu.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (WDy4l)
Posted by: Nick at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (1YIuX)
I was speaking to overturning my hypothetical amendment for the States to overturn SCOTUS decisions. How would the federal gov't for the States to marry gay people if todays decision was overturned? The gov't is to lazy, fat and incompetent to do such a thing?
I agree that they have ignored the Bill of Rights but how can they ignore future Amendments if the language is structured that we The States would have to do something for our amendment to be ignored rather than the fed doing something.
This is really a simple and elegant solution left to WE the People by George Mason and the Framers.
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (UnJ7w)
I can marry the person I love. It's as simple as that.
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No, you cant! Ace is mine! MINE!!!!!1!!!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (iQIUe)
If only it were as simple as that...
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You could have done that yesterday. I guess Diversity needs to be made uniform. Odd that.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 26, 2015 11:33 AM (/eTPT)
Fags, not flags.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (St6BJ)
And if you truly loved that person you would not engage in sodomy with them.
Dude. Have you tried it?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
So you live in one of the 13 states that didn't have some form of gay marriage or civil unions before today?
Okay, fine.
But it's not "as simple as that" and you know it. SCOTUS rulings are not about the case being decided, they are about the precedent.
"Marriage" is not a federal issue under any reading of the constitution. SCOTUS now says it is. Let's see what awesome case law comes out of this, and if you're as happy about those cases as you are this one.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (kff5f)
There you go. Sums up our time and our fall.
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (uYIF2)
But after today, I can marry the person I love. It's as simple as that.
If I really believed it were as simple as that, I would be ok with it. (except for its' coming through the judicial branch, not the states).
Once I believe that was all it was. And then I saw people being run out of town for answer hypotheticals about catering pizza weddings. It's hard to make me more cynical, but that did it. "
Ditto.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (MYCIw)
And if you truly loved that person you would not engage in sodomy with them.
Dude. Have you tried it?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:36 AM (JtwS4)
Q: What are the 3 best things about anal sex?
A: Location, location, location.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (St6BJ)
I'm genuinely happy for you. I can understand that you're pleased with the ruling, and that's OK.
But I'm very concerned about the implications of the ruling crushing religious liberty, which is enshrined in the country's founding legal documents. It is as simple as that.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (/Ho8c)
Of course it is. There is literally no rule of law anymore. There hasn't been since 2009.
There is only the oligarchy and their whims now.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (6zSiC)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
Not really that simple and you know it.
Posted by: just saying at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (wkuqO)
"The federal income tax was strongly favored in the South, and it was moderately supported in the eastern North Central states, but it was strongly opposed in the Far West and the Northeastern States (with the exception of New Jersey).[14] The tax was derided as "un-Democratic, inquisitorial, and wrong in principle."[15]"
Posted by: tmitsss at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (1nj96)
America is heading toward massive backlash. I fear 1865 will appear tame in comparison. :-(
Posted by: some1 at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (S5LAZ)
The church clergy is pretty liberal, so my guess is a 'courageous' priest starts performing gay marriages, and some Bishops sanction it, daring the Pope to try to stop them.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (pUcjZ)
I can see the Church splitting along the lines of the Church in China. Over there, there are state-sanctioned "Catholic" churches, with tame priests and bishops and then there are real Catholic churches - which are persecuted.
Wonderful, isn't it? Following the trail blazed by Communist China.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (u0lmX)
Amazingly, you know who is going to get away with only taking credit for the second sentence.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (tf9Ne)
________________
You are right. Action must be taken, otherwise an ideal is nothing. It must be put into action by men.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:37 AM (KCQo0)
The thin edge of the wedge is such a little thing.
But the thin edge is just there to provide the opening.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (oVJmc)
The important thing is that you, special snowflake, get your list of terroristic demands enforced at the point of a gun. What matter the cost?
Congratulations.
Posted by: some random meathead - if you're not drinking, you're not paying attention at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (ND90G)
If so, this coupled with the elimination of any restrictions covering marrying the same sex would provide a whole new world of estate planning, partner agreements and tax avoidance.
Posted by: jwest at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (9ZZd+)
his church will lose it's tax exempt status.
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at June 26, 2015 10:11 AM (HEa5q)
Many churches--including mine--never took the tax-exempt bait.
Posted by: baldilocks at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (t2Kll)
The rule of law is dead, but that's good because you get a piece of paper validating your feeling.
Good God.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Oh, they'd find a way -- I'm sure theres something in the penumbras and emanations about it.
Really, there is no law you can pass to say, "hey SCOTUS -- follow the Constitution."
They've already said, "nah, not doing that." so has congress, so has the executive, so has the bureaucracy, so have the states, so have the people.
So... that's that.
And this didnt happen overnight. It's been this way for a while. They're just being more obvious about it now.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
You're a sucker and a tool and not very bright. No one was stopping you from having a ceremony before this. No one prevented you from declaring your love to them in front of friends and family. No one even prevented you from calling them your husband or wife whatever the case may be. You have just admitted that you are insecure and your love is empty without state acknowledgement.
Oh yeah, and you're still not married even if 5 totalitarians in black robes say you are "married."
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:38 AM (zt+N6)
Are there any morons out there who would like to gay-marry me in a mosque?
(And no, I'm not interested in consummating this union. I just figure it would have to be a couple of straight conservatives who would try this -- no one else would have the balls.)
I'll have to get a temporary dissolution, but I'm sure my wife will understand.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (LqrRo)
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Your sentiment and your comment is what makes this a difficult issue for this country. Unfortunately, it is now an issue that has been decided by 5 people. That seems strange and frankly ludicrous.
Posted by: SH at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (gmeXX)
Now, we own the gambling and the judges and they're the best things to have.
But this thing is the wave of the future.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Local Imam at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (OZmbA)
America is heading toward massive backlash. I fear 1865 will appear tame in comparison. :-(
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Maybe this time Abel will get to slay Cain. Dam I hate Cain.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (oDCMR)
General Tagge: But that's impossible! How will the President maintain control without the States?
Governor Tarkin: The Cabinet Secretaries now have direct control over their domains. Fear will keep the localities in line. Fear of this government.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2015 11:39 AM (78TbK)
I've never had a problem with what you do in your private life. I do have a problem with seeing institutions that are the basis for a civil society being torn apart. Marriage, and family, have always been about what is best for raising the children and the statistics bear this out.
I also worry about what will happen to the religious organizations in this country. They do a great deal of charitable work and this has been challenged in the past (Massachusetts vs. the Catholic church, for example) with the result of the Catholic church abandoning a line of charitable work. This will accelerate, with more misery being the result for the poor, unfortunately.
I don't hold this against you, beerologist, and I wish you only the best for both you and your partner. I'm afraid that the freedom and the benefits that come from this are going to be lost or greatly reduced.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (RtXLW)
You are not marrying. You are just perverting goodness in order to attack Christians. You are no different than those who deliberately commit violence against homosexuals. IN fact, you're worse and all who support "gay marriage" are worse. You support genocide so that you can posture. It's sick and wrong and is the death of the nation.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (ukTrJ)
'courageous' priest starts performing gay marriages, and some Bishops
sanction it, daring the Pope to try to stop them.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:24 AM (pUcjZ)
=============Any priest who does would be doing so on his own hook.---(Cabrini Center For Catholic Health Care)
In 2010, Cardinal Francis George of Chicago outlined the degree to which
he believed religious freedoms (in the United States and other Western
societies) were endangered. After the passage of legislation that
enabled Civil Unions in Illinois, his eminence stated: "I expect to die
in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a
martyr in the public square."
LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/o5rmyvg
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (JBggj)
Are you desiring that the state to approve of it, others to approve, or God? One, two, or all three?
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (bGLSw)
And you could have done that yesterday, and the day before, and for many years before that.
No law anywhere stopped you from forming a committed relationship with your lover, or even marking the occasion with a ceremony.
But that wasn't enough, was it?
So, f-ck our democratic republic because of your f-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lings.
The Supreme Court has rejected the rule of law twice in two days in favor of a Judiciary Politburo.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (O7MnT)
of town for answer hypotheticals about catering pizza weddings. It's
hard to make me more cynical, but that did it.
THIS.
I was all "live and let live," it doesn't affect my marriage, etc.
And then they started going after people, getting them fired, suing them, destroying anyone or anything that didn't support them.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
So you live in one of the 13 states that didn't have some form of gay marriage or civil unions before today?
Posted by: mynewhandle
Of course not. That's another of our GOP college interns stopping by the blogs to try and sand the fires of dissent.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (kdS6q)
A. You won't be married.
B. Your individual desires are causing you to miss the bigger picture. This is another nail in the coffin of our representative republic.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (2Ojst)
Look on the bright side. We're wide open for a massive terrorist attack and I imagine we'll get one before SCOAMF leaves in 2017.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM (St6BJ)
Because, #LoveWins, or something.
Posted by: What is Love? (Baby, don't hurt me) at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (4Utxt)
We need a new word for man-woman marriage. I refuse to bow to these pricks.
No, we keep "marriage" for normal marriage, and use "gayrriage" for same-sex perversion of same.
Posted by: Wordsmither at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (9pK6I)
The Friday of Terror:
147 killed in #Kobani
27 killed in #Tunisia
24 killed in #Kuwait
1 killed in #France
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (eEb+d)
I expect all Conservatives, Libertarians, as one when it comes.
Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (FA3Z7)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (8/DeP)
What about homosexualists like myself that find the term "gay" offensive? It's a political identity.
Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (39FGM)
But after today, I can marry the person I love. It's as simple as that.
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Your sentiment and your comment is what makes this a difficult issue for this country. Unfortunately, it is now an issue that has been decided by 5 people. That seems strange and frankly ludicrous.
This is a good summary. I'm pro-SSM and I hate the gay bashing, but I would prefer to reach the desired outcome the old fashioned way, following the...watchamacalit...law?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:31 AM (8/DeP)
Lecturing eveyone on what words to use is exactly like every SJW out there has done. I think most people on this blog are really raw today with having self appointed monitors telling them their every move.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (OB/ib)
At this point it isn't *my* country. It belongs to corporations and leftwing radicals.
It isn't a thing to care about, it's an obstacle and danger to be avoided or survived.
It was nice to pretend, but this is really the way things have always been. The Elite does what it wants.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (pUcjZ)
Actually, fasces goes back to Roman times.
Posted by: Jakee308 at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (x3GpS)
I don't see the current Pope stepping in to stop this wave. He seems to be evolving into a Progressive sort, too. If he can grow his flock, he'll start waving rainbows.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (1CroS)
"_______________ lingered for days, until the rats got to him."
My list of people who belong in that blank is becoming unmanageably large
Posted by: The Truth, the whole Truth etc. at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (ioXP7)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: SarahW at June 26, 2015 10:21 AM (lv2k0)
What? They are throwing their country away too. You will not find salvation there.
Posted by: East Bay KG at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (uDCdI)
No, it's not.
See the bakery run out of business for refusing to bake a gay marriage cake.
See the CEO of Mozilla forced out because he donated money for the successful California referendum against gay marriage.
See the churches have their tax exempt status revoked for refusing to perform a gay marriage.
It's NEVER "as simple as that" when the progressive glacier is advancing...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (fLKzW)
I dunno, he had some things to say about it when Ireland went this route.
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:42 AM (sxq57)
I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Posted by: John Roberts at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (6zSiC)
If only it were that simple. But of course you can't just marry the one you love. They have to be within a narrow range of specific categories.
They can't be too close a relation
They have to be older than the legal age of consent
They can't already be married
I can't already be married
They have to be willing to marry me
They have to be the same species as me
They have to be alive
They have to be able to give consent
They can't have too conflicting a blood type in many areas
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (St6BJ)
Lets go out to the lob-by
Lets go out to the lob-by
And get ourselves some snacks
OK Lunchtime, later all
Posted by: Bigby's Nintendo Power Glove at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (sPO3u)
Lecturing eveyone on what words to use is exactly like every SJW out
there has done. I think most people on this blog are really raw today
with having self appointed monitors telling them their every move.
yes
Posted by: some random meathead - if you're not drinking, you're not paying attention at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (ND90G)
Remember a few years ago, the report on the border agent who swore he saw some kind of device enter the country but had his interview cut short by a supervisor? I've never forgotten that.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (bGLSw)
But the questions not answered:
Can 14-year-old Johnny marry his right hand?
Can Alfred marry his car?
Can Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice marry their fondu set or their platform shoes?
Can fido marry kitkat?
Posted by: Sphynx at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (oDCMR)
Only if it's consensual. And fabulous.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Beerologist at June 26, 2015 11:30 AM (aIRMx)
I wish you happiness, believe it or not. I've been to a gay wedding and I was happy for them too. But when gay radicals demand that the church marry them, will you and your husband stand up for the right to refuse that demand?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (Lqy/e)
Plessy v Ferguson
Wickard v Filburn
Koramatsu
Those are probably the worst of the worst.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:35 AM
I recall that in my 1L year, many moons ago, an article came out summarizing a poll of law professors regarding what they thought the worst SCOTUS decisions in history were. Oddly enough, their #1 was Roe v. Wade, on the grounds that there was absolutely no actual constitutional law backing it up. Unsurprisingly, they followed that by saying they would never overturn it because it was so deeply entrenched in people's lives, etc., etc., thus demonstrating what biased, dishonest crapweasels they are.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Feh at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (nqR7l)
Posted by: Mister John Galt at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (hDV2n)
If you have "the feeling", you understand the Confederacy; or rebels. Take your pick
Posted by: NCwoof at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (aUQgu)
If the law was that I could marry anyone I wanted, then I'd be married to Molly Ringwald, Phoebe Cates, and Anne Hathaway, for starters. But they're all married, don't even know me, and wouldn't want to in the first place.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (39g3+)
To the surprise of no one.
https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/614458184179286017
Posted by: steevy
Fops gonna fop.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: some random meathead - if you're not drinking, you're not paying attention at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (ND90G)
Pope Francis: Gun-makers are hypocrites if they call themselves Christians
there ya have it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2015 11:44 AM (qCMvj)
nightly reading ritual. As a gay Conservative, I understand and respect
that most of you disagree with today's Supreme Court Decision, and
that's OK. But after today, I can marry the person I love. It's as
simple as that."***
Then you are an enemy and you don't even know it.
You do not respect the rule of law.
You do not understand actions and consequences.
Hell, you obviously don't even understand the English fucking language.
You are part of the problem. You are part and parcel of the ideology this website rails against daily. You just don't want it to apply to you.
You are full of shit.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (xSCb6)
It really isn't "as simple as that." Tyrannical and dictatorial edicts rarely are.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2015 10:09 AM (kGrdk)
A court in Utah already ruled that bans on polygamy are unconstitutional. The next step is incest and then they will start pounding on the rights of children to have sex with anyone they want no matter what age.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (OrI3J)
No matter what your opinions on abortion are, I can't see anyone justifying the legal oddities that were Griswold v CT and Roe v Wade with a straight face.
And its real shitty that that's how SCOTUS rules and how everyone kind of smirks and pretends they're not horrible, unconstitutional, tyrannical decisions based in the justices PERSONAL feelings on the issue and not on their interpretation of the laws at stake.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (4KoRb)
of town for answer hypotheticals about catering pizza weddings. It's
hard to make me more cynical, but that did it.
THIS.
I was all "live and let live," it doesn't affect my marriage, etc.
And then they started going after people, getting them fired, suing them, destroying anyone or anything that didn't support them."
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Same here.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (RtXLW)
support is not so much "I am happy for the freedom" as it is "LOL the
h8er Republicans are sure going to go nuts over this!""
***
Because this was only ever a way to destroy Christianity as an alternative source of morals to the State.
Obama's Levithan is a jealous god.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (78TbK)
Not only that, you can force a priest to do it!
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (pUcjZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (39g3+)
More than that, will you, Beerologist, demand that gay activists respect religious liberty and freedom of conscience?
Posted by: Feh at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (nqR7l)
You are lost to your sins and incapable of love.
I pity you.
Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM (XUKZU)
But:
I would hope that if SCOTUS decided something that made my life somehow more convenient, that favored me in some practical way, but in so doing, that they used the constitution as an ass-wipe and changed the plain meaning of words on a whim, opening the door for any number of additional horrors...
I would hope that I'd have the moral courage to oppose the decision, even if it made my life better, out of principle.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (LqrRo)
Posted by: The Fradgan at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (ggBc/)
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (6zSiC)
I think Beerologist was a drive by commenter.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Durr...
Late in a thread. Longtime reader, first time poster. Always take the GOPe line. One and gone.
They're obvious as fnck folks.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (kdS6q)
OK, one more time, if the States pass an amendment for what ever instance that at its heart says "Hey Federal Government We the States reserve the right to not enforce x and y law" how exactly can the Federal gov't force the States to do it?
For example the States pass an amendment that says unless 3/4 of the States agree with a SCOTUS decision it is null and void and additionally if you the Federal Gov't try to undermine our decision we will withhold the federal taxes until such time as the Federal gov't let's the State's vote be upheld.
How could the Federla gov't possibly ignore this when the very act of ignoring has no bearing or effect on the Amendment?
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Meriadoc at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (r7qNw)
government and the usual suspects for refusing a "marriage" between two
dudes."
I give it two weeks. A month, tops.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (oDCMR)
WRONG!
Posted by: DaveA at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (DL2i+)
But this now trumps all legislatures everywhere... even votes by the people.
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 26, 2015 11:48 AM (qh617)
Justice Scalia's comment is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
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Yet, he didn't resign.
Not he, not Roberts, not Thomas, not Alito.
If they really felt the Court had gone to far, that is the only response.
They didn't.
Theater.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2015 11:48 AM (ZvKdv)
government and the usual suspects for refusing a "marriage" between two
dudes."
I give it two weeks. A month, tops.
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Catholics or Southern Baptists first? Don't forget Mormons. Lefties hate Mormons big time.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:48 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:48 AM (MYCIw)
Where have you gone Augusto Pinochet?
Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Alternate Universe Paul Simon with a Van Dyke at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (0cMkb)
Almost all of this is just people feeling really guilty and abnormal trying to make themselves feel better. They blame society and mean people for how they feel, but it comes from inside. I know this because when I do wrong I feel the same way and have the same temptations to blame others and want the world to change so I don't feel as badly.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (39g3+)
arguments, but the fact that they seem so insecure about their love that
they must have state recognition of it does not help their case."
It's called 'the conscience.' It can be denied and ignored to the point where it is seared but it never fully goes away. By design.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (MYCIw)
After 30 plus years, it's about time the Pride parades cover up and enough with the drag queen nonsense. Sheesh!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (iQIUe)
I must have totally missed the part where no American ever had a gay relationship until this morning.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 10:48 AM (ZKzrr)
And I can't wait to force the next guy I have a crush on to date or marry me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (shFKH)
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (Q4pU/)
The bad news is it has been turned inward against politicians and supremes to force them to do they're bidding.
How else would you get 9 people in a room who have lived, breathed, and studied constitutional law to make such blatantly ginned up arguments in favor of all of this junk?
Posted by: Drider at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (DNFK1)
Can the Supreme Court help me marry Chris Evans? Cause love and abs and stuff...
>>I think Beerologist was a drive by commenter.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:43 AM (AkOaV)
Likely, but I want to give the benefit of the doubt here, because their may be others. I don't enjoy seeing people call strangers names who haven't done anything wrong except be different. I don't endorse that.
I do endorse calling the 'burn the heretic' wing of the gay mafia fascists, though. Because they are.
Churches need to be making plans to protect themselves.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:49 AM (lIU4e)
Stock up on firearms and ammunition.
Keep a supply of food at the ready.
Buy land in a rural area if you can.
Join a faith community.
Gay marriage is not going to bring down the wrath of God, but it is a symptom of our culture's misplaced priorities that will lead to Very Bad Things.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (O7MnT)
Charles C. W. Cookecharlescwcooke
What is done is done. GOP would do well to accept this decision and move on to other questions
You useless pillock.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: mallfly at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (qSIlh)
One of the studies done on gay marriage in Europe found that more than half of them were between an EU citizen and someone from a developing nation who couldn't get a residence visa under any existing category.
I found that interesting.
But I remember reading somewhere that Obama's DoS was already processing same-sex spouses of American citizens, so apparently didn't need SCOTUS for that.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (ZKzrr)
Reply, "FYNQ".
Simple as that.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (WDy4l)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (JtwS4)
I'm at a loss for words here. That Ckufer has the nerve to write that dissent?! A bolt of lightning simply must come and strike that fraud for such hypocrisy.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (1CroS)
At one point the last soldier was in charge of a platoon that despised him. Why?
Because to control population they had brainwashed people into believing that being gay was the right and normal thing and that being straight was the abnormal.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (8marX)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham
A lot of Righties hate us, too!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (VAsIq)
I recall that in my 1L year, many moons ago, an article came out summarizing a poll of law professors regarding what they thought the worst SCOTUS decisions in history were. Oddly enough, their #1 was Roe v. Wade, on the grounds that there was absolutely no actual constitutional law backing it up. Unsurprisingly, they followed that by saying they would never overturn it because it was so deeply entrenched in people's lives, etc., etc., thus demonstrating what biased, dishonest crapweasels they are.
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I've got a biography of Supreme Court Justice Byron White ("The Man Who Once Was Whizzer White"). It notes that even when he disagreed with the majority in an opinion, he was always willing to accept that opinion. He would invariably incorporate those same opinions that he'd disagreed with into the opinions he wrote later on. The sole exception to this was Roe v. Wade. He viewed that as bad law through and through, and never used it to support any of his opinions.
Posted by: junior at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (s1zlc)
Posted by: Carol at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (9mTYi)
Interesting first choices, Christopher Taylor. The first two, OK...a little dated. I'm placing your age at 48.
But: Anne Hathaway? Meh.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (LqrRo)
I'll have to take a shower after this post for forcing myself to think as they do, but if I wanted to make the biggest media splash, I'd find the most hard-core Bible-only fundamentalist church I could and demand the pastor to marry me and my catamite. There's too big a risk that a more liberal or evangellyfish church might cave on the spot to up their attendance numbers.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (bGLSw)
massive terrorist attack and I imagine we'll get one before SCOAMF
leaves in 2017.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:40 AM
Any terrorist with even a grain of common sense -- and I suppose there must be a few -- will simply sit back and let Choom Boy and his myrmidons keep on doing the heavy lifting for him.
No bomb, no hijacked airliner and no compact nuke-in-a-box can do as much damage to the nation as its "leaders" are already doing.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (P8YHq)
Disagree. Most of this is about gays who hate Christians and want an "In yer face."
Gay marriage isn't a social issue; it's a trophy in the culture wars.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:51 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:45 AM
You obviously didn't have my openly Marxist, anti-colonialist, black Con law II professor (yeah, yeah, I know, but it was the only class slot open). His entire argument when Roe was discussed seemed to boil down to "But we reeeally want to have consequence-free sex!!!" Seriously. It was that shallow. How this douchecanoe was ever hired, I have no idea. The other conservative in the class was the (actual) African-via-Texas guy who sat next to me. We had a lot of laughs.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (h4vJk)
On to reading Kennedy's bullshit.
Posted by: Feh at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (nqR7l)
Keep a supply of food at the ready.
Buy land in a rural area if you can.
Join a faith community.
Check.
Check.
Just picked up 11 acres yesterday.
Check.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (WDy4l)
There's no question that will happen. The proper move for churches is to end their tax exempt status. Then they can say whatever they want about any topic and refuse fake weddings without the IRS attacking them for violating their status.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+)
It's simple, really.
Once our Rulers lose the Mandate of Heaven, the mob will hang them all, and our Beloved Rulers would rather that doesn't happen.
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (uYIF2)
Charles C. W. Cookecharlescwcooke
What is done is done. GOP would do well to accept this decision and move on to other questions
You useless pillock.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (kdS6q
The 14th amendment fight vs. the 1st amendment fight, is going to be a doozie.
I'll make the popcorn, you bring the butter.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (9mTYi)
be a nightmare. Gay advocates say the impact will be minimal if any .
They say a lot of stupid shit.
That's been part of the plan all along - they spelled it all out here:
http://beyondmarriage.org/full_statement.html
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH)
The day that the government forces me to perform same sex marriages-or marriages for anyone for that matter- is the day I put my aged body in an orange jumpsuit to get ready to go to the pokey.
If you ask most clergy people I would imagine that performing marriages is not their favorite thing. Why? Because many people don't have a clue about Christian marriage. They want to get married in a church because they like the stained glass windows or it's the pretty little church on the hill, not because they want to take vows in front of God. People are obsessed with how people look in their fancy outfits and where the reception will be be, whether there will be an open bar or not. and where the honeymoon will take place They want an excuse for a big party. And actually. if we're going to regard a marriage as simply a big party for people who love each other,. gay people are perfectly capable of loving someone, of having a lifelong commitment and they can enjoy a big party as much as straight people can. However, since i have spent much of life writing things, I care about words and what they mean and marriage has always meant-in this culture-a commitment between a man and woman intended to be lifelong. I would rather we kept that term for a monogamous relationship between a man and a woman and use the term "civil union" for gays and if people want to find churches that will perform gay unions they can certainly do so. Because if churches are forced to perform gay marriages then they will be forced to perform polygamous marriages and marriage will become whatever the government wants it to be. Marriage shouldn't even be done under the auspices of the state, IMO Let very one have civil unions and let churches perform marriages Because when the state tells me which marriages I must officiate at they will then tell me what I may preach and churches will become nothing more than propaganda arms of the state such as in Nazi Germany. I'm no Dietrich Bonhoeffer; I don't even know that I'm a particularly courageous person, but on this I will not move. so help me God and God will have to help me because i won't be able to refuse under my own strength.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (OSs/l)
And there's this...
As a result of Friday's ruling, PennLive/The Patriot-News will no longer accept, nor will it print, op-Eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage.
These unions are now the law of the land. And we would not entertain such criticisms any more than we would entertain criticisms of interracial marriage or those claiming that women are less equal than men in the eyes of the law.
The Republic is dead and June 26 was when the final nail was driven home. We are a nation of feelings, not of laws ruled by men without conscience or reason.
God save the remnant.
Posted by: Embittered Southerner at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (5bWE2)
Posted by: DaveA at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (DL2i+)
Never thought I would write that sentence. But, heh, here we are.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 11:47 AM (UnJ7w)
I don't know the "hows". They'll find a way. Either cut off all funding to the state, or find another way to twist the arms of the state.
And if the state still refused and said "you know what? F this noise, I don't want any point of this" well... Lincoln showed how the federal government handles dissent.
And there's no way nullification will make it through (what is it) 3/4 of state legislatures and 2/3 of the Senate & House?
Or 3/4 of the legislature in an Article V?
Or, fuck it, maybe SCOTUS will just say the penumbras and emanations told them that Article V conventions are unconstitutional.
The specifics don't matter. They wont let it stand.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (AkOaV)
We're talking about gay people, not lesser people, there's no reason to denigrate them like that."
I consider them lesser people and you are fucking nobody to tell me otherwise.
People who try to undermine my liberty such as muslims, leftists and fags are lesser people. I make a point of avoiding them anyway I can and I am pretty successful at that.
You cannot force me to consider them any better than they consider me.
The first step to stop the lunacy would have been stopping treating them with kid gloves like you do.
This is simply stating true facts, if you do not like it, prepare yourself to bow down to the altar of faggotry, islam* and leftism. I thankfully live outside the USA.
In USA they will make it in a way that hardline faggotry and islam will be able to coexist, because they know 'conservatives' are not able to oppose either.
Posted by: fromabroad at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (t94Nt)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 11:46 AM (oDCMR)
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Hire a lawyer and take it to the nearest federal district court. This ruling was based on 14th amendment arguments. And LUV. I think you've got a pretty good chance.
Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (JBggj)
I don't know about unite, but at this point if I see ISIS, I won't "say something."
Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (ZbV+0)
Makes just as much sense as the original.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM (shFKH)
That is fascinating. Do you have a link?
Posted by: Feh at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (nqR7l)
Fuck this guy in particular.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Bob Hope at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (BrQrN)
Except some churches are sitting on insanely expensive property that they will lose if they lose their tax exempt status. Basically every church in NYC is fucked. Hope you like Unitarianism.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (MYCIw)
Go to googles main page and check out what's there.
This all part of their demonic agenda.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (mqYFN)
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (AWijS)
This whole "If it's love, it must be okay" argument is crap.
If I love my dog, do I get to marry it?
If I love my sister, do I get to have sex with her?
If I love doing heroin, does that make it okay?
Your "love" of something does not validate it as moral or acceptable by me. It is a cheapening of the word "love" that is shared by a man and woman who decide to bond for the purposes of having a family (which gay rights activists derisively refer to as 'breeders.')
No. Don't soap me with that crap that "love" is the infinite license for doing whatever you want.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (KCQo0)
While I don't have a CBF (yet), I have plenty of Crosses.
And I'm not afraid to use them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (eEb+d)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (4KoRb)
147 killed in #Kobani
27 killed in #Tunisia
24 killed in #Kuwait
1 killed in #France
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Apparently it is the one year anniversary of the caliphate. I thought we were in the middle of the month of peace, Ramadamadingdong, though.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (XUKZU)
He's trolling you like Obama does daily.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (6zSiC)
872 today we are all confederates
You don't mean "rebels?"
Cause that's what I feel like.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 26, 2015 11:41 AM (eEb+d)
There was a reason the nickname for Southern Soldiers was...
Johnny Reb...
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (qh617)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 26, 2015 11:22 AM (8/DeP)
There is always a reason to denigrate people who are helping to form the shackles that the state intends to bind you with.
I would not have civil words with Justice Kennedy (were he to come out of his rarified neighborhood and actually mingle with us icky commoners) and I will not be respectful to people who think its OK to force people to accept their sinful, dead-end behavior.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (OrI3J)
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (ZKzrr)
Scotus gave him that ability when it struck down DOMA two years ago. That ruling said that the Federal government must recognize valid SS marriage licenses from states(wasn't Vermont the first state to legalize gay marriage?) where it was legal.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (OB/ib)
Justice Scalia's comment is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
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Yet, he didn't resign.
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I hope he never resigns. His dissents are the most valuable thing the court produces these days.
Posted by: junior at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (s1zlc)
Oh sure, that's who the activists are and the leftists pushing it. But homosexuals are seeking approval and a way to feel less weird and guilty. Normal has a pretty well defined and obvious meaning. That's abnormal; you're going to feel weird around other people. Its not going to change by forcing laws down the throats of the public.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (39g3+)
We all know it's option 2.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (MYCIw)
Justice Scalia's comment is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
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Yet, he didn't resign.
Not he, not Roberts, not Thomas, not Alito.
If they really felt the Court had gone to far, that is the only response.
They didn't.
Theater.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 201
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HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM THIS REGIME?
NEVER EVER EVER GIVE UP POWER.
NEVER STOP RESISTING.
If the left wants Scalia out, then they will .
In fact I am afraid Scalia may meet an unfortunate accident if he remains so outspoken.
Posted by: @votermom at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (cbfNE)
All I see is their standard minimal page. What are you seeing?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (AWijS)
Posted by: The 10th Amendment at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (0cMkb)
U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) issued the following statement regarding the U.S. Supreme Courts decision ruling state same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional:
..."While I disagree with this decision, we live in a republic and must abide by the law. As we look ahead, it must be a priority of the next president to nominate judges and justices committed to applying the Constitution as written and originally understood..."
*makes beating off motion*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: siga norry weaver at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (u0wJh)
Go to googles main page and check out what's there.
This all part of their demonic agenda.
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Or check Drudge for an offensive flag.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (XUKZU)
^^^THIS.
Posted by: GMan at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Ghost of Charlemagne seated on his mighty throne atop SMOD at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (xs4A3)
Check.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 11:52 AM (WDy4l)
"just picked up 11 acres?"
As in, you bought a new piece of dirt for yourself?
Congrats man, thats awesome! Any development on it, or is just a lot?!
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:56 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (4KoRb)
No, these are their children who have been taught to rail against anything normal in society. Since it was normal to have opposite sex marriages, those needed to be eliminated.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (OB/ib)
"If the world hates you, remember that the world hated me first. If you
belonged to the world, then the world would love you like it loves its
own people. But I have chosen you out of the world. So you don't belong
to the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the lesson I
told you: A servant is not greater than his master. If people did wrong
to me, then they will do wrong to you too."
John 18:15
This was kind of inevitable.
Posted by: rayj at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (pI/IV)
You could have married them yesterday as well. What you couldn't do yesterday, and what you cannot do tomorrow, is force everyone to recognize it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (evdj2)
This all part of their demonic agenda.
Posted by: Kreplach
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A better idea, I think, is to NOT use Google *ever*.
They are evil.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (9mTYi)
I hear they have a full barrel full of nails, 16 penny to be precise
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (9mTYi)
Of course, a rational court would hold that the 1st Amendment requires that all religious organizations remain tax exempt because otherwise it would be subject to "fines" and "penalties" by the Government. That would be the Government using the taxes to control religious expression- don't like the Pauline Espistles? IRS Penalty suddenly appears on your EFTPS account for $30,000.
Taxation is control. The IRS is historically corrupt. Therefore, any taxation of any church is forbidden since it is "prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
But we don't have a court, we have a gaggle of Chekists with robes.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (ukTrJ)
Fuck this guy in particular.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
But first I must make him marry us.
Posted by: Butt Poker at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM (AWijS)
read below the search box in the small writing
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (AkOaV)
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How about Gomorrahge?
Posted by: Abraham's Nephew at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (4dbPD)
Stanley Kurtz did a series at NRO.
http://is.gd/CTwJ43
Damn, it's nearly 10 years old. I'd be curious for a follow-up.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (ZKzrr)
Then it will be time for them to move, or for the people who attend to make some choices about their tithing and money they donate.
Sure a beautiful building in a key location is nice. But maybe a humble building in a poorer part of town would be more Christian.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (39g3+)
and the pursuit of happiness which cannot happen if one cannot
Makes just as much sense as the original.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2015 11:53 AM
I was thinking this earlier, but you elucidated it. Exactly.
Bravo. And thank you.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 26, 2015 11:58 AM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (MYCIw)
True. It costs money to keep the lights on and it costs money just to sit there. This is going to be a mess.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:59 AM (lIU4e)
Go to googles main page and check out what's there.
This all part of their demonic agenda.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (mqYFN)
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These people are like trolls or flashers. Giving them attention is like feeding them. It gives them power over you.
It's good to know what they're up to, so thanks for the heads up, but I haven't visited google for a couple of years now.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 26, 2015 11:59 AM (6qR/9)
Posted by: steevy at June 26, 2015 11:59 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Cheri at June 26, 2015 11:59 AM (oiNtH)
He always has a remnant who won't bow knee to Baal. I expect before it's over, this one's going to be pretty small.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham
A lot of Righties hate us, too!
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My mother is in the middle and she hates you, too.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: rayj at June 26, 2015 11:57 AM (pI/
I heard about this while in the car on appointments. Came home and told Mrs. MH. She said don't worry, we know Who is in charge.
Remember God is love, bud don't fuck with Him.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (9mTYi)
The fuck does that even mean? You clearly don't love the majority of the country who think that the biblical definition of marriage has meaning.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (shFKH)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Fee Waybill at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (1v2mO)
Unless you're a foreign national who has entered the country illegally or overstayed your visa, but that's for another post.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Cheri at June 26, 2015 12:01 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2015 12:01 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 12:01 PM (oDCMR)
Yeah, but that's utter bullshit. They built and maintained those buildings for hundreds of years in some cases. They shouldn't be run off because of some pussy SJWs got sad feelings.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (MYCIw)
Your "love" of something does not validate it as moral or acceptable by me. It is a cheapening of the word "love" that is shared by a man and woman who decide to bond for the purposes of having a family (which gay rights activists derisively refer to as 'breeders.')
No. Don't soap me with that crap that "love" is the infinite license for doing whatever you want.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (KCQo0)
Do you, Adirondack, take this kilo of cocaine to be your lawfully wedded drug? To cut into lines and snort off a mirror? To offer bumps to club chicks in hopes of getting laid?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 11:55 AM
No, no, no....Ramalamadindong means that you, infidel, mustn't attack the Muslims out of cultural sensitivity and shit. They, on the other hand, are free to continue attacking you, because, jihad!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (h4vJk)
I dated Microsoft for a time, but it just didn't work out.
Posted by: Thoms Nostrous at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (uYIF2)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (KCQo0)
Well, I respectfully disagree with you wholeheartedly.
If anything an Article V Convention should be supported and attempted. If what you say comes to pass then so what? At least we tried the solution the Framers left us.
Posted by: Arson Wells at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (UnJ7w)
Sick fucks.
Get your kids out of public school people!
Posted by: pam at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (EAZ7y)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 12:03 PM (XUKZU)
the majority of the country who think that the biblical definition of
marriage has meaning.
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM
Ditto for all the idiots who are prancing around joyfully on Facebook right now "celebrating their new-found rights," with of course shout-outs to the Greatness of Choom Boy and a plethora of cutesy hashtags.
Anyone who dares disagree will be in for some major shit.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 26, 2015 12:03 PM (P8YHq)
It always has been, there's just always been a lot of people who hang out with the club in the easy times.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:03 PM (39g3+)
The question is, who will have the balls to stand up to it? This will not go well.
Posted by: Cheri at June 26, 2015 12:04 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 26, 2015 12:04 PM (oDCMR)
She's a beauty... a one-in-a-millon girl.
Posted by: Fee Waybill
Take care when you consummate it.
Posted by: dogfish at June 26, 2015 12:04 PM (rdjj7)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 12:04 PM (O7MnT)
I'm not trying to dissuade you from attempting it, I just dont think its some kind of magic bullet that will "fix" DC.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (AkOaV)
Lots of church splits all over the place, including black churches.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (bGLSw)
How many legs does a dog have if we say his tail is a leg?
Posted by: Abraham Licoln at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (ztOda)
Now I see it. That's pretty small text. If Google thinks the ruling is so gosh-darned wonderful, why didn't they do up the entire page in confetti and rainbows?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (AWijS)
What am I? Chopped liver?
Posted by: The Tenth Amendment at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (ZKzrr)
A Gay conservative is impossible. You're just someone who wants to keep more of your money.
A transconservative - pretending the impossible.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (6zSiC)
Unless you're a foreign national who has entered the country illegally or overstayed your visa, but that's for another post.
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (ZKzrr)
Bonus points for transitioning or being The Ghey
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2015 12:02 PM (ztOda)
Well, in Michigan, this now means that not only will gays be tripping over themselves getting to Ann Arbor's clerk offices to get married, but the state's prohibition on gay's adopting children will be struck down also. The premise for that was because the state wanted children adopted into married households. So it's a twofer, gays get state approval and benefits and get to adopt pets, uh, each other's kids or kids out of the state system.
Just like the Wells Fargo commercial, where the two lesbians go to pick up their new puppy, uh, little boy.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2015 12:06 PM (OB/ib)
Posted by: master of puppets at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (Ww1dU)
They shouldn't but that's what happens. Christians have had an easy, comfortable time of it for centuries, but Jesus promised us things were always going to be hard and that people would hate us. Nowhere in the Bible does it promise we'll be happy and rich and comfortable in this life, no matter how much the televangelists lie. It promises us persecution, opposition, even death - in this life.
Doing the right thing has always carried a high price.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (tQZfi)
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 11:54 AM (MYCIw)
True. It costs money to keep the lights on and it costs money just to sit there. This is going to be a mess.
Posted by: Lea - Not Everybody Likes Us at June 26, 2015 11:59 AM (lIU4e)
This is happening eventually and already in some places regardless of the tax status. What will need to happen is a voluntary consolidation of parishes and clergy. I've already dealt with this in a populated suburb recently, two parishes with aging congregations serving the same community. They are merged with two worship sites and will eventually be consolidated to one. There already aren't enough priests to go around, with a single priest running three or more churches in some places. Happened to the area where my grandparents lived in PA, a single priest as pastor of three parishes, he died and they all closed. Goes double for the schools, in NYC alone they close a dozen a year and then lease them out as public school annex buildings.
Better to control our own destiny and fight out own fight without having to worry about having these choices forced on us because some govt. entity is holding your tax status hostage if you don't comply.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (bGLSw)
I agree with this.
Try Art V. If that doesn't work out- if a compromise whereby I can keep my Liberty doesn't arise, *then* we can look at the alternative solutions.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (kff5f)
Maybe, but that was Ireland. There's a helluva lot more money, power, and people in the US. The Church will "evolve".
That's what my gut says. Maybe it's just the Climate Change and global money redistribution talking.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (1CroS)
"What is done is done. GOP would do well to accept this decision and move on to other questions."
You mean like the Left do when they lose? You sound like a good establishment Republican. "Move on to lose the next argument." So you can prove to the Left how decent and accommodating you are, not like those coarse yahoo "conservatives." Douchebag.
Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2015 12:08 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 26, 2015 10:18 AM (fWAjv)
I'm sure they could round up a couple and make it a double service.
Posted by: BignJames at June 26, 2015 12:08 PM (Eo86b)
Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2015 12:00 PM (MYCIw)
It's not even just the biblical definition. it's the definition of humanity long before God revealed Himself to Abraham. It was the definition of all the pagans the Israelites we're surrounded by. It is the definition of the Hindus and Muslims and Animists.
Marriage has only ever been between a man and a woman. The only things that differedis in the number of people a person could be married to. But it has always been that a person could marry only someone of the opposite sex. In polygamous marriages, the wives aren't married to each other.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2015 12:08 PM (shFKH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:08 PM (39g3+)
I dont love Ace, I wuv him. I wuv him a lot.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 12:09 PM (iQIUe)
Detroit police have issued arrest warrants for Shepard Fairey, the artist best known for making that iconic "HOPE" image for President Obama's 2008 campaign.
According to The Wall Street Journal, police believe Fairey is responsible for putting up posters on several buildings that they say are incredibly difficult to remove.
For putting up the unauthorized posters, Fairey is being charged with malicious destruction of a building.
Fairey was invited to Detroit last month to paint a giant mural for Quicken Loans founder Dan Gilbert - and by giant I mean 18 stories high - but it's other work he did around town during that time that's come under scrutiny.
I guess these posters don't celebrate The One. It is good to see the revolution eating its children, though.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 12:09 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Sphynx at June 26, 2015 12:09 PM (OZmbA)
every church, wedding planner, florist, baker, DJ, etc. deliberately to
create chaos.
Posted by: Cheri at June 26, 2015 12:04 PM
When the ADA was passed, a bunch of Professional Handicapped People -- and their lawyers -- had a field day suing businesses, owners of public building, amusement parks, etc. to get "handicapped access." While one result was a bunch of new ramps, widened stairways, lifts, and so on, another result was that these PHPs and their shysters made a shit-ton of money from going to court.
If then why not now?
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 26, 2015 12:09 PM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 12:10 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2015 12:11 PM (ZbV+0)
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Yeah, can't have that.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 12:11 PM (XUKZU)
That's what my gut says.
I expect several denominations and eventually the Mormon Church to do the same thing. Already some have embraced homosexual "marriage" and even have homosexual, female pastors in their buildings like the Anglicans, some Espiscopalians, and PCUSA.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:11 PM (39g3+)
(I kid, I kid. It was already time)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 26, 2015 12:07 PM (LA7Cm
You go to the ranch
I'll go to the cabin. (in about an hour)
Let's get away from this shitty news
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 26, 2015 12:12 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2015 12:12 PM (OSs/l)
As in, you bought a new piece of dirt for yourself?
Congrats man, thats awesome! Any development on it, or is just a lot?!
Kinda given to. Wife's parents gave her that land that had been promised to her since she was little. Part of the "family" land that her mom's dad had bought 60+ years ago. Has a cabin on it right now. Looking at building plans for a new, small 2 bdrm house.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 12:13 PM (WDy4l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2015 11:29 AM (St6BJ)
I recently saw a PBS special about identical twins which featured a straight twin and a gay twin. If there really is a gay gene, than all sets of identical twins would either be both gay or both straight. The thesis is that some sort of trauma in the womb made one twin gay. Since it was a PBS special, they didn't point out the implications of that - that while people may in fact be "born that way" and it's not their fault, its a birth DEFECT.
Like you, I don't want to harass and persecute people for having a birth defect, but I don't want to applaud them for it either. Or pretend it is no different from being straight.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 26, 2015 12:13 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:13 PM (39g3+)
http://tinyurl.com/od4gubs
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 26, 2015 12:14 PM (XUKZU)
Why one and not the other?
Posted by: HR braucht ein paar Wuerste at June 26, 2015 12:14 PM (ZKzrr)
the same thing. Already some have embraced homosexual "marriage" and
even have homosexual, female pastors in their buildings like the
Anglicans, some Espiscopalians, and PCUSA.
* * *
Bet on it, and include the Catholic church.
Posted by: Doomed at June 26, 2015 12:14 PM (bGLSw)
1023
Looks like I'll be marrying my rifle.
I plan to marry a Confederate Battle Flag . In a mosque.
Chick Fil A will cater.
Posted by: some random meathead - if you're not drinking, you're not paying attention at June 26, 2015 12:15 PM (ND90G)
This is a problem for liberal diocese, not Conservative ones. We have six, sometimes seven priests at our parish; two deacons, a seminarian or two running about, and I think eight nuns. Our school has a waiting list. We run 7 Sunday masses, full except for 7AM. In the liberal breast of the beast - Falls Church VA.
Young priests want nothing to do the old stuffy liberals running the PA dioceses. I see it all the time at the in-laws. They have young men leave their diocese and move to get away from the stigma of the lefty bastards. The Holy Spirit flows to the passionate, not the weak in faith.
Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2015 12:15 PM (ztOda)
I wish. The land I grew up on was sold to developers, all the forest hacked down including the 150 foot cottonwood and the 200 foot double douglas fir over the spring. Now its crappy houses with landscaping, and half of them are empty because it was done just as the housing market crashed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Feh at June 26, 2015 12:16 PM (nqR7l)
"What is done is done. GOP would do well to accept this decision and move on to other questions."
And the most insulting part is that is was never done. Voters repeatedly voted this down. Everywhere, consistently. They just kept coming back, time after time and using black-robed homosexual or homosexual sympathizers to illegally get what they wanted.
F*ck that and F*ck them. Never.
Posted by: Birthers are right at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (6zSiC)
Je suis Sioux.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (WDy4l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (OSs/l)
"If the world hates you, remember that the world hated me first. If you
belonged to the world, then the world would love you like it loves its
own people. But I have chosen you out of the world. So you don't belong
to the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the lesson I
told you: A servant is not greater than his master. If people did wrong
to me, then they will do wrong to you too."
John 18:15
This was kind of inevitable.
This decision is more than a principled shot-across-the-bow. It is a fascistic gun blast to the face. Let the war for culture begin.
Posted by: The Fradgan at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (ggBc/)
Posted by: Zombie Caesar Nero at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (ND90G)
I have seven straight brothers, and about 15 straight nephews... I am really dubious that it's genetic.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 12:17 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2015 12:18 PM (WDy4l)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 11:50 AM (O7MnT)
Smarter people than I have wrestled with the conundrum, but if God didn't save the Jews from Auschwitz, He's not saving America from jack shit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2015 12:19 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 12:21 PM (iQIUe)
What makes you think its not an example of the wrath of God? Sometimes He punishes us by giving us what we want. Gives us over to sin, as Romans says. God have mercy on us all, because his patience is not infinite.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:22 PM (39g3+)
didn't save the Jews from Auschwitz, He's not saving America from jack
shit."
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America, The People, must save themselves.
Posted by: The Fradgan at June 26, 2015 12:22 PM (ggBc/)
Posted by: Sticker Shock at June 26, 2015 12:24 PM (VcOqI)
Where do you draw that line with mental illness? You've admitted the possibility that it might be a disorder, yet think it should be endorsed and protected by law. What other mental illnesses should also be considered in this way, and how do you make that call?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:24 PM (39g3+)
Marriage is not the only way to do that. Civil unions provide exactly the same protections, but activist gays rejected them. (No "in yer face" to Christian conservatives). Even before that, there was contract law.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 26, 2015 12:29 PM (O7MnT)
As regular commenters know, she is gay, so of course she is thrilled with this and will have a great time at Pride this weekend in NYC. She's one of the sane gays whose identity is not defined solely by who she sleeps with. She genuinely wants a family one day, and I will be a super proud auntie when that happens. I'm glad she can marry, I really am.
But what about my religion? The LDS church is no stranger to the government sitting on its hands and leaving the the ravenous wolves of society to mete out "justice" against them. Gays in the church have been respectful of the stance of traditional marriage, much more respectful than say the militant women in the church screaming for change. We'll see just how much this changes that.
Mormons escaped to the wilds of Mexican territory when things got tough; where do we escape to now?
Posted by: LizLem, Flynn for the Win! at June 26, 2015 12:30 PM (hvf9s)
See, that's where I think the Court is. It does not interpret; It creates. That is an offense.
If the law is wrong, strike it down and send it back for editing or let the States handle it. We also have an Amendment process that could empower the Court courtesy of the Founding Fathers if the People wanted it.
But, no, they do not respect their office and at this point I think they are too collectively ignorant or corrupt to represent a Republic.
It is unworthy of respect or recognition.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2015 12:33 PM (1CroS)
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Israel?
Posted by: The Fradgan at June 26, 2015 12:33 PM (ggBc/)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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If you believe in Scripture, then the rich are more in need of Christianity than the poor.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2015 12:35 PM (9mTYi)
That's not exactly true; all stand equally in need of God and desperately wicked at our core whether rich or poor. Its just that being rich provides more convenient distractions and its easier to fool yourself that you don't need God if you have money.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2015 12:40 PM (39g3+)
Close. The official name will be Imperio del Ano.
Gotta have that Latin flair, you know.
Posted by: Jaws at June 26, 2015 12:41 PM (Jktp1)
Posted by: The Fradgan
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To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, I do not believe that God concerns himself with things so petty as government.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2015 12:46 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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Rich man, camel, needle, eye. Some assembly required.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2015 12:48 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Milesdei at June 26, 2015 12:50 PM (EtWvd)
Posted by: The Truth, the whole Truth etc. at June 26, 2015 12:51 PM (ioXP7)
Are you using a utility hook up? Then you're receiving a public benefit. They'll go after that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 26, 2015 12:51 PM (Spluw)
Crazy times.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, has a Hobbit foot at June 26, 2015 12:54 PM (FCPu0)
Posted by: 2soonold2latesmart at June 26, 2015 12:54 PM (Sot2r)
Posted by: 2soonold2latesmart at June 26, 2015 12:57 PM (Sot2r)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2015 01:07 PM (GsebS)
But, for some strange reason, the 10th Amendment remains invisible to them.
Posted by: Socratease at June 26, 2015 01:12 PM (82qVG)
As Scalia very eloquently pointed out, no we don't after today.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 26, 2015 01:13 PM (OrI3J)
shd gay people be denied the right to protect their relationships and
finances as married people do? It does not affect traditional marriage.
Considering the sorry state traditional marriage is in, dont blame the
gays for it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 26, 2015 12:21 PM (iQIUe)
Why should you be provided any more avenues to share and protect wealth than celibate roommates when you sexual proclivities do nothing to further the interests of society as a whole (as traditional marriage does)?
Posted by: redbanzai at June 26, 2015 01:19 PM (OrI3J)
Don't leave out the disparate impact decision. (Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs v. The Inclusive Communities Project) Once again, the courts have taken a law that explicitly prohibits racial discrimination and quotas and has turned it into one that requires both. This opens the door for the federal government to start planning your city's development and force it to have the required racial, gender, and trans-gender distribution that their Utopian vision of the perfect society requires.
Posted by: Socratease at June 26, 2015 01:21 PM (82qVG)
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Homosexual marriage by its very nature destroys a child's natural family by deny them access to one or the other of their natural parents (of course Kennedy explicitly denied the research that shows this is damaging to children).
Posted by: redbanzai at June 26, 2015 01:29 PM (OrI3J)
Any couple wishing to be legally married will need to do so at a government office or with a government approved friend or neighbor. Those wishing a church experience could do so, but it would be considered a "blessing" and not a marriage.
What is potentially a giant unintended consequence of the SCOTUS decision is that Christian couples may well begin refusing government-sactioned marriages while pursuing church blessings instead... blessings that would still pronounce them "husband and wife" without the "by the power vested in me by the State of Indiana".
This could be big.
Posted by: The Fradgan at June 26, 2015 01:48 PM (ggBc/)
Posted by: D the J at June 26, 2015 02:21 PM (XQ4j4)
Remember that the next time some dolt says he's done with the GOP. Know how many Justices are over 75 right now?
"It makes no difference," is the statement of an idiot. There were four votes against. If it makes no difference, let Hillary replace those four and see what happens.
I detest leftists, but I also detest stupidity.
Posted by: Adjoran at June 26, 2015 04:45 PM (QIQ6j)
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