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May 18, 2010
"Family Values" Rep. Souder Quits in Disgrace Over Affair
There are few things more galling than someone claiming the moral high ground when they are actually bottom feeders. I feel sorry for Souder's family, and the family of his promiscuous staffer, but the two of them actually involved in this apparently long-term affair deserve whatever humiliations come their way.
The most shocking thing about this affair is that the other person was, in fact, a woman.
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Rather than seeing this as a negative, we should be celebrating. We don't need these duplicitous slime-balls in positions of power or in the Republican party. They have poisoned our party, making all too easy for independants to say,"Well they are all the same." Shine sunlight on all their affairs; turn over every rock. The American public is ready to forgive honest mistakes, even stupid actions.
Posted by: garrettc at May 18, 2010 01:17 PM (DQjJA)
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This kind of thing really pisses those of us who spent time in 'Nam off.
I should mention that my time in Vietnam was spent at the airport, as part of a flight layover. Didn't want to give you the wrong impression.
Posted by: Kevin at May 19, 2010 03:05 AM (LQ3SI)
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Maybe I don't pay close enough attention, but I've never seen any Democrats run for office on a platform of, "Of course I'll cheat on my wife!"
Posted by: flenser at May 19, 2010 01:45 PM (AeNmp)
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OK, it was an affair. So I suppose it is worse than Newt G promoting "family values" [Contract With America] and then after election promptly getting a divorce and re-marrying.
I am not totally against divorce, far from it - but it rankles when a "holier than thou" rails against it for months and then dumps the spouse. NG lagely seems good enough, but I cannot forget it.
Posted by: John A at May 19, 2010 07:08 PM (LEb+F)
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Affairs of the heart are just that, and the heart is illogical. People can espouse family values, believe in them, think that ideal is best for civilization, yet not live up to them. We are all human especially in this most delicate, intricate and complicated of human emotions. Marital relations and what goes on behind close doors is impossible for anyone else to judge.
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Stolen Valor: Democrat Senate Candidate Falsely Claims Vietnam Vet Status
Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal stepped in it, big time:
"We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam," Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. "And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support."
There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.
Blumenthal eventually joined the Marine Reserves and served in a civil affairs unit, but never went to Vietnam during the war.
Hopefully, Connecticut's voters will treat him with the disdain he deserves.
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I just read that he joinded the VFW. You need to have served in a war to quakify. I guess that puts paid to his " I did not mean to mislead anyone" meme.
He might well have been forced into joining after one of his unmisleading statements.
Posted by: davod at May 18, 2010 03:29 PM (GUZAT)
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Do you have a link to that VFW assertion? I'd really like to read that.
Posted by: ECM at May 18, 2010 06:50 PM (nYKDd)
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Did this guy sleep through the entire 2004 election cycle? Does he not remember all the flap about John Kerry and the Swift Boats?
Posted by: MikeM at May 18, 2010 07:06 PM (zfcnf)
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Making the Right Call: Marines Need to Scrap the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle
Amphibious assault is synonymous with the U.S. Marine Corps, a combined-arms military force that is simply the best in the world at what it does.But are generals in charge of current procurement guilty of the costly mistake of "fighting the last war" when it comes to the future of Marine assaults?
Recent advancements in weaponry in the past few years have made the decades-old concepts behind the Marines next-generation Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle obsolete before the vehicle even entered production. In my
latest article at Pajamas Media today I argue that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is doing what is best for our Marines when he threatens to scrap the EFV.
The question now becomes, what should replace it?
I'm all in favor of airborne armored insertion if it can be made feasible (an armored Super Osprey carrier for over-the beach IFV insertion?), or fully submersible amphibious armored personnel carriers to be launched from stealthy submarine assault ships.
Launching the still relatively slow EFV in the face of today's and tomorrow's threats simply seems insane.
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Frankly, these were not well thought out posts. I would agree that the Over-the-Horizon concept with the EFV needs to be scrapped along with some other issues, but years ago the plans of using AAV's against heavily defended beaches were dropped. There are many situations were a combined force with an initial wave of AAV's and grunts landing from ship is feasible and required as well as force multiplier. The reality is there is nothing in our arsenal, excluding ICBMs that does not run a risk of a great loss of life to our people. War like Medicine is not an exact science, since both are not without risks. By the way, most amphibious ships are not "carrier" sized. Even the LHA is not carrier sized unless your thinking of a WWII carrier.
Respectfully,
Ron Landers GySgt(ret)
Former AAV Plt Sgt
Posted by: YatYas at May 18, 2010 10:50 PM (pcGsw)
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Ron: That is probably correct nevertheless the new efv is still a quantum leap ahead of the old aav, lest you have a dangerous gap in amphibious capability we should buy the efv. Scrapping this new design puts marines in an old system that I have rowed faster in a rowboat.
Your idea of Super Ospreys. Again with the gap again capability. We must have no less than the threat of amphibous operations today, but also the reminder that no battle of that size is done by the marines alone. Every aspect must be under control at all times and yes if the marines ever do face those kinds of operations again there would probably be heavy losses. I like the idea of a skytrain like heavy lift vehicle that can carry 50 tons or so with speeds and altitude like the CH 47. You could then take like a fully combat loaded stryker with troops beyond the beach plus it would take up less deck space than an Osprey so you could haul more of them on any AWS.
Posted by: Ron at May 18, 2010 11:44 PM (R2/2p)
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The entire point of an AAV is to get Marine infantry ashore in a combat assault. But the concept of the AAV has been obsolete since the CH-46 made practical large scale heliborne amphibious assault.
However, there has always been a gap in amphibious warfare when it comes to tanks. It's a shame that all the effort wasted on the EFV wasn't used instead on development of an amphibious tank.
Posted by: Brad at May 20, 2010 02:21 AM (Xk55q)
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Jeremiah Wright Comes Out Swinging
"I am 'radioactive,' Sir. When Obama threw me under the bus, he threw me under the bus literally!"
You and about 300 million other Americans, pal.
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"... literally!"?
um no ...
Even the President can be charged with assault and battery, manslaughter, intent to do bodily harm, and a few dozen other laws against such things.
Posted by: Adriane at May 18, 2010 04:12 PM (mXBw3)
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i don't believe wright. he and obama are still best buddies. they are both liars.
Posted by: southernsue at May 19, 2010 08:08 AM (26YkN)
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Wright looks like he's at least two hundie, and the President picked him up and threw him under a bus? I don't think that attempted murder of people that are politically inconvient is what a President should do. Libs are for murder, but I'm not, and you can quote me.
Obama should be in jail, right along side of all those Liberal cannibals.
Posted by: brando at May 19, 2010 12:54 PM (IPGju)
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May 17, 2010
Woody Allen Supports Obama for Dictator
And yes, the aging pedophile was dead serious:
In an interview published by Spanish language newspaper La Vanguardia (that we translated), Allen says "I am pleased with Obama. I think he's brilliant. The Republican Party should get out of his way and stop trying to hurt him."
But wait - there's more!
The director said "it would be good…if he could be a dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly."
In other news, Barack Obama thinks he's brilliant, that the Republican Party should get out of his way and stop trying to hurt him, and that he would make an excellent dictator.
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Woody is a typical leftist in his outlook. It's
only his above-mean arrogance that has caused him
to reveal that kind of thinking. The rest have
it, but realize it is not quite mainstream. That
is why over 100 million have died under leftist
regimes. Nothing should get in the way of the
wonderful state.
Posted by: DleifsarbYrral at May 17, 2010 04:58 PM (qYH4w)
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As best I can tell, about 20% of the US is firmly in the Commie/Socialist camp. So if I understand, the majority of the US is supposed to get out of The One's way and allow him to continue to distroy our way of life. Great reasoning. How about this, lets divide the US and allow these nuts to have the Northeast, the rest of us can then continue with trying to prosper and live in freedom, kind of like we tried in 1860.
Posted by: David at May 17, 2010 07:08 PM (coY4Z)
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I have reached the same conclusion David but I am hoping for a better resolution than in 1860....
We probably need to include the west/left) coast in with the North east....
s4f
Posted by: s4f at May 17, 2010 07:22 PM (u0FmQ)
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Why doesn't Mr. Allen give away his money to "the State" since he's all about that sort of crap??
Posted by: David at May 17, 2010 07:40 PM (ozf7+)
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Well...
Let's apply the standard media logic here. Woody Allen supports Obama. He also supports noted child rapist Roman Polanski. Therefore, Obama is a child rapist, right? I mean, this is the kind of logic that we are supposed to apply to tea partiers, so why not apply it here?
Agree with s4f and David, but I would add that the interior of California (as well as the interiors of some of the northeastern states) would rightfully belong with the rest of us.
Posted by: Will Gant at May 17, 2010 08:10 PM (vrSQq)
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Wave of Chinese Blade Attacks Continues
Here we go again:
A man attacked six girls with a meat cleaver at a busy Chinese market before committing suicide by jumping out of a building, according to state-run media.
Two of the six were seriously injured, according to the state-run Guangzhou Daily. All six were hospitalized.
The attack occurred about 7 p.m. Sunday (7 a.m. ET) in the market in Foshan, Guangzhou province, according to the report. The man, thought to be about 20 years old, jumped from a three-story building and died, according to Guangzhou Daily.
The attack was the seventh such mass knife attack in China in recent weeks, five of which occurred at schools. More than 100 people have been wounded or killed in the spate of attacks, and authorities are struggling to understand the causes.
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Mass knife attacks, or with other edged weapons, is a concept that occurs in a book called "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner. The perpetrators were called 'muckers' after the verb 'to run amock'.
Posted by: Jack at May 17, 2010 10:32 AM (bvDV5)
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Obviously, PRChina needs cleaver-control laws.
Posted by: dad29 at May 17, 2010 12:56 PM (6nQNP)
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Damn Tea Partiers. Without a doubt. Ask Olbermann.
Posted by: kyle at May 17, 2010 03:19 PM (8uzdZ)
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Wonder if the rash of knife attacks on school children or this one in particular on schoolgirls, could be related to the fact that there is a huge surplus of young men who will never have a chance to marry due to the unintended consequences of a one-child policy and selective abortion?
There are or will be close to 20 million "excess" men in this generation who can only visit prostitutes...and catch syphilis, which is on the rise in China, in a drug resistant strain.
Ah...but the Government knows best...and The Party is The Government.
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May 16, 2010
Left-Wing Think Progress Advocates Stripping Citizens of Constitutional Rights Without Benefit of Trial, Conviction, or Notice of Even Being A Suspect
Think Progress, the propaganda mill for the radical progressive left, is seeking to strip away the Constitutional rights of Americans by doing what they do best: engaging in deception and perversion of the facts to serve a anti-American political agenda.
Their
latest attempt is to use the fear of terrorism (without, of course, naming Muslims as the primary cause of terrorism, as that would not be politically correct) to advocate for the government to have the power to strip away the right of American citizens and resident aliens to purchase and own firearms with nothing more than the stroke of a bureaucrat's pen.
They couch their plea in an incredulous and deceptive pitch, asking:
"...if those on the terrorist watch list should be able to purchase firearms..."
The immediate, instinctive, and entirely emotional response for most people is going to be
of course not. Luckily, our Founders sought to create a nation based upon the rationality of laws and not the swirling emotions of men.
Keeping real suspected terrorists form obtaining weapons is an admirable goal, but the simple fact of the matter is that the terror watch lists are ever-expanding, bloated, inefficient, and arbitrary. Children, the elderly, actors, soldiers, and even some of our most famous politicians (including Ted Kennedy) have been placed on these hastily-constructed and poorly maintained terror watch lists, and once on them for whatever imagined offense, it is very difficult to get your name of of them.
What
Think Progress advocates is stripping Americans of their rights without the benefit of even being accused of of a crime. You will have no trial. you will have no judge, and no jury. You will have a Constitutional right merely done away with based upon a computer or some harried and incompetent Department of Homeland Security drone connecting your name to another person, or place, or thing that someone, somewhere, thinks might have in some way been related to some criteria they have decided is suspect.
Will keeping everyone on the terror watch list from purchasing guns stop, or even slow Islamic terrorism? As the most lethal attacks on American soil have all been committed with easily acquired objects (box cutters, household and industrial chemicals) the obvious answer is a resounding no.
Think Progress and their progressive, anti-American allies in the White House and Congress hope to erase our Constitutional protections by fiat and fear-mongering because they cannot convince Americans to give up their rights though honest discourse.
Marx, Obama and Alinsky must be proud.
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I no sooner finished predicting this on my blog than I come over here and find it's already started. Imagine that.
http://catawissagazetteer.blogspot.com/2010/05/security-over-safety-who-needs-rights.html
Posted by: Tom Usher at May 16, 2010 10:35 AM (OiuZg)
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Ironically, the Obama administration -along with their cheerleaders and propagandists- are simply continuing the work begun by the Bush administration. The Democratic and Republican Parties, the Democratic-Republican political class, long ago declared war on the people and the constitution of the United States.
Posted by: d.eris at May 16, 2010 11:08 AM (MWOBr)
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So in your world it is OK to strip Americans of the constitutional rights of miranda but not guns for potential terrorists. Go figure!
Posted by: Tom at May 16, 2010 12:49 PM (/gc4G)
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Miranda is kind of new. Right to bear arms isn't.
Frankly, I'm not cool with stripping ANYTHING until someone is either caught on a battle field (that includes one they created themselves during an attack) or they've been publicly tried and convicted and formally had their citizenship removed.
Posted by: Foxfier at May 16, 2010 01:12 PM (3WqWa)
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It seems that between the Repubs and the Dems that they intend to do everything in their power to take all rights and run the country into the ground. When you vote, the only decision is how fast you desire for the process to proceed.
Posted by: David at May 16, 2010 04:15 PM (coY4Z)
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@David, well put! Once governments start to accumulate power they are normally loathe to relinquish it. I'm through with voting myself, as Huey Newton said, "Don't vote, it only encourages them."
Posted by: Will Butler at May 16, 2010 08:49 PM (LgpMF)
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The Magical Rocket-Propelled Goalposts strike again!
The title of this post includes a perfect desciption of "extraordinary rendition" ... a Bush policy which the American Right enthusiastically endorsed as "getting tough with terrorism" - & this proposal doesn't involve incarceration or torture, either.
I'm far from anti-gun myself; I grew up with them - but I find America's fetish for weapons both macabre & pathetic.
"Miranda is kind of new. Right to bear arms isn't."
Habeas corpus is kind of new. Divine Right Of Kings isn't. Women's sufferage is kind of new. Slavery isn't. Separation of church & state is kind of new. Cannibalism isn't.
Longevity does not equal validity.
Posted by: jim at May 17, 2010 11:07 AM (yqh8N)
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Feel free to move to some place based on the Divine Right of Kings, Jim. I'll stick with the one that's had right to bear arms since day one.
Shifting goalpost, indeed. The Projection Machine is at it again-- are you really too stupid to figure out that the topic is the US, not generic 'longevity'? Some of us think that the US is kinda special.
Posted by: Foxfier at May 17, 2010 11:40 AM (3WqWa)
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So, if you're on a terrorist watch list but you haven't been convicted or even charged, you should NOT be free to fly - that's too dangerous for other citizens.
But you should still be able to buy a gun, because risk is the price of freedom.
Doesn't that seem like a contradiction?
Posted by: jim x at May 17, 2010 07:01 PM (43cUo)
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Jim X, the terror watch list doesn't prevent people from flying. Takes an extra ten-fifteen or even half hour extra, but hey.
Posted by: Foxfier at May 17, 2010 10:27 PM (3WqWa)
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Foxfier said:
Miranda is kind of new.
The Miranda warning is kind of new, but the rights it informs about (5th and 6th amendment) are exactly as old as the 2nd amendment. Should we trick people into thinking they aren't allowed to own guns?
Posted by: Anonymous P Hancock at May 18, 2010 09:13 AM (Xatjo)
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APH-
one is a protection put in place less than 50 years ago, on the justification of other rights; the other is actual text from the founding.
If you can't see a difference, I can't help you.
Posted by: Foxfier at May 18, 2010 01:26 PM (3WqWa)
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Foxfier-
You're right. We're safer if people don't know what rights they have under the law. Otherwise the legal system might function the way the founders intended it to.
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Freak Defends Freak
Is it any surprise that the kind of pervert that would seduce his own wife's daughter and who was accused of molesting a seven-year-old adopted child would support a man accused of raping other children?
In a just world Roman Polanski and Woody Allen would both be rotting in prison, but what should be found every bit as revolting is how they are accepted among most of their predator peers in the entertainment industry with few reservations.
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They're admired by their peer group because the two of them DID(and got away with doing) what their friends only dream about doing. Pedophiles, every last one of them - either out in the open or still in the closet, dreaming about finding a child they can pervert.
Posted by: emdfl at May 17, 2010 09:18 AM (vwRFo)
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He wasn't the only one that defended it. I know some Liberals who are 100% for this crap. It's the primary reason they hate Bill O'Riley. It's Bill's central issue, and Libs have told me that they are 100% against everything Bill says.
Raping kids is bad. How can I force Libs to understand that?
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May 15, 2010
Religion of Peace Attacks Cartoonist... Again
Let them have their way in all things, or face their violent wrath:
The home of a Swedish artist who once drew a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad as a dog has been hit by a suspected arson attack, police said Saturday.
Lars Vilks, who lives in Nyhamnslage in southern Sweden, was not at home during the attack late Friday night and no one was reported injured.
It was the latest in a week of attacks on the 53-year-old cartoonist, who was assaulted Tuesday by a man while he lectured at a university and saw his Web site apparently attacked by hacker on Wednesday.
I've long tried to give Muslims the benefit of the doubt, hoping that despite 1,300+ years of evidence to the contrary that it was extremists that misunderstood or perverted Islam that were the root of Islamic terrorism and suppression.
But that simply isn't the case, it it?
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One person can make a difference!!
Posted by: Lamar at May 15, 2010 12:27 PM (hYhWD)
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I learned all I needed to know about Islam "the religion of peace" on 911.
The MSM breifly showed the celebrations in the streets in several of the middle east nations capitol citys. These joyful celebrations were the so called mainstream "peaceful" moslems.
There is no compromise with these people. They are the enemy, and the sooner as we recognize this the better off we will be.
Paul in Texas
Posted by: Paul Kanesky at May 15, 2010 12:27 PM (vyJ0b)
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I think that one of the worst things that Bush did was to define our war as one against "terror". Terror is only a weapon or a battle plan. It has to be implemented by people. When a nation begins to make war, it makes war against people for a specified reason. In this case, we should have indicated that 9/11 was the culmination of a least 40 years of attacks by Islam. As we have seen recently, it takes very little for us to move from a conservative Muslim to an individual that will do anything to injure innocent individuals. There does not seem to be a specific country that is the culprit, thus our enemy is a religion rather than a nation. If we say that the actions are only confined to extremist, then we are not looking at the facts. Consider what would have occurred in WWII if we confined our war to only the Nazi or the Japanese military elite. We would still be fighting and likely losing.
We are giving up our freedom to make sure that Muslims do not feel uncomfortable or put out or racially defined. I have had enough and feel we need to grow up and confront our enemy, which in this case is a religion. We are not the only ones with this problem. Every country that allows Muslims freedom has had significant problems, from India, China, Russia to here.
Posted by: David at May 15, 2010 04:27 PM (coY4Z)
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History is piled with the bodies of the gullible and complacent who gave evil "the benefit of the doubt". Islam brings nothing of value to a free republic - its very nature being incompatible with liberty. One sign at a muslim demonstration said it all about islam's position on America: "Freedom go to Hell!". Back at you.
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Posted by: MAModerate at May 16, 2010 07:42 PM (UHrTI)
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To follow up what Paul K stated earlier - I remember not only seeing celebrations in the streets of middle eastern cities. I remember seeing a celebration outside a Mosque or Islamic Center in Patterson NJ! It was only televised once and then was buried very deep - never to be seen again. I'm sure the program director got word from above that this was not to be shown again "or else."
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Ammo Shortage Continues
It started before Obama was elected, and shows no signs of abating.
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Anecdotal, but while ammo is still in somewhat short supply, it's not nearly as bad as a year ago.
I ordered 9mm, reloaded, from Cabela's and they had it in stock, it took about a week for .45ACP (Magtech).
Last year I ordered .45ACP, .40S&W, 9mm and .357Mag and it took nearly 4 months to get all of it. They had none, not even reloads, in stock.
This year, it took less than a month.
As for guns, a year ago my favorite gun store had no scary black guns on their scary black gun wall, they had on M-1 carbine and a plastic AR for police practice.
Now? It's full of all manner of scary black guns, not just AKs and ARs but Steyr's and other really scary, black guns like a few bullpups.
I've also noticed that 7.62X39 is easier to get with some people even having cans of it, you couldn't get the cans anywhere last year, and .223 ammo is plentiful again.
The only thing I've really seen is that AKs have gone up. I got a WASR-10 for $350 and a 75rd drum from Cheaper than Dirt for $90, now they're $450 and $200 respectively.
ARs appear to be about the same price, but that might be because of all the new $2k+ high end stuff like the Bushmaster ACR and the Sig 556 and whatnot.
Posted by: Veeshir at May 15, 2010 08:43 AM (XXaAt)
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Just went to Wallyworld yest and they've lifted the restriction on how many boxes per day you can buy.
I haven't had any trouble getting .45 ACP, 40 S&W, or 7.62x39 locally.
Posted by: Willy at May 15, 2010 10:15 AM (lzaSE)
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At our local WalMart, they have a 50 foot aisle bristling on both sides with ammo. It looked fully stocked to me last week. I'm not buying that there's a shortage.
Posted by: Kevin at May 15, 2010 01:31 PM (LQ3SI)
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The real shortage I did face was reloading supplies. For the first six months, more like a year actually, after buying a reloader, I could not find large pistol primers, powders were hit or miss (and Vithavori, or some such, is still nearly impossible to find but it was always a limited supply item and the numbers of both shooters and reloaders has hit the roof). Now, I have thousands of primers for large, small, small magnum pistol primers and a few thousand large rifle primers, along with bullets galore. The brass is merely from spent storebought ammo.
Ammo, for me, was never all that limited (except in very liberal Iowa City, though not in the right (literally) parts of Iowa. And now in Utah, ammo is also never in short supply (perhaps in Salt Lake City it is?). Anyway, that was my take. Oh, and prices on all of it is dropping, if slowly.
Posted by: Doom at May 15, 2010 11:31 PM (W9wBS)
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I haven't noticed any shortages since...well, since I started reloading, 35 years ago! :-)
A few boxes of bullets, primers in 5000 count lots...no worries.
Posted by: Sharpshooter at May 16, 2010 10:35 PM (v8v2c)
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May 14, 2010
Why Not Nuke It?
National Geographic warns that the Deepwater Horizon blowout in the Gulf of Mexico could leak for years, wrecking the ecology of the Gulf of Mexico and once it hits the Gulf Stream, the East Coast as well.
Why not nuke it?
A low-yield nuclear device detonated deep in the relief well now being drilled in the would fracture the rock around the leak and seal it, would it not? Presumably, the detonation sealing the well would trap any radiation far under the seabed.
It seems a potentially practical solution at a time where we seem to be running out of ideal solutions, and one that might be far less ecologically damaging than allowing the leak to spew oil for years.
Any experts out there care to weigh in on this?
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Why? The relief well will do the trick and cheaper yet. An underground nuke would mean the reservoir could never be produced - and it's still a significant amount of value. (100 million barrels assuming that was the recoverable number is worth 1.6 Billion to Uncle Sam at $80 oil. The 'expert' quoted in your link is a "former head of an energy investment bank" meaning he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about on the technical side. Believe me - the capital guys in the energy industry know NOTHING about the technical side. I'd classify that article as classic green fearmongering. I can tell you that while it is difficult to drill in deep water that has essentially NO impact once you are at depth and in your directional steering. Additional evidence of his cluelessness is his dismissal of the interim plugging attempts. They may well work and if they don't it won't be because they are as silly as he suggests - it will more likely be due to the high flow rates and especially the likelihood of multiple channels having developed by this point.
Posted by: gasminder at May 14, 2010 07:09 PM (xnt4J)
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I don't know where gasminder gets his extensive technical knowledge, but I sure know who Matthew Simmons is. He's one of the most respected people in the oil industry and he knows plenty about the technical side of the industry.
Accusing Matthew Simmons of "green fearmongering" is ridiculous. He's an oil man to the core. It appears to me that the alleged technical wizards have royally screwed this one up and Simmons is right. At this point, they don't have a clue what will work.
Posted by: DB at May 14, 2010 07:51 PM (OkYL+)
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even an underground nuclear blast at the well point could have unforseen consequences...for all the other oil rigs and wildlife in the area...
Who's brilliant idea was this? As a last resort, possibly, but there are a lot of other alternatives before a nuclear detonation looks attractive...And who's gonna write the environmental impact assessment on this puppy? That will take years and be challenged by both the fishermen and the greenies.
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There isn't a man or woman, politician or oil executive that would have the STONES to set off any type of nuclear device in the Gulf no matter if it were proven it could be 100% successful. Certainly not THIS administration. Great conversation and science fiction - but will NEVER be considered.
Posted by: mixitup at May 14, 2010 08:11 PM (4HW+A)
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Nuke from orbit ... just to be sure!
Posted by: Adriane at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM (mXBw3)
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Well it took a grand total of one post before someone misunderstood - note that I said the ARTICLE (which quoted Matthew Simmons for exactly one paragraph) sounded like geen fearmongering & I will reiterate that. Second - one can be extremely respected in their field but not be the appropriate expert for a given analysis. And the analysis given is very suspect on the two points I mentioned - directional drilling is NOT significantly more difficult at a given depth in deep water than on land (rock properties where you are trying to steer are much more important) and the interim measure are NOT a 'joke'.
This well will NOT "spew for years". And mixitup has the real money quote - no one has the STONES.
Posted by: gasminder at May 15, 2010 06:49 AM (xnt4J)
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No need to go that insane into Sci-fi. This well will not leak for years, 12 month is more than enough to drill at least 3 relief well.
Only one successful well will be enough, since once it is drilled they will pour in a mixture of Water and chemical so dense that the oil won't flow. Then they will cap and every one is happy.
A nuke seems romantic, but it will complicate future drilling, and sedimentary rocks likely to occur in the Mexico gulf are way to weak to wistand the explosion. so Instead of a 10 inch well leaking, you can have a tens of meter wide fractures and no plan to deal with
Posted by: Sams at May 15, 2010 07:18 AM (WzZeS)
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The question has been asked in Russia, with the added info/claim that the USSR used nukes at least five times to close off wellheads.
Posted by: John A at May 15, 2010 12:00 PM (LEb+F)
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Why not just pump it out before it reaches the sea bottom and heads for the surface??
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Red State: Kagan's Thesis Proves She's A Socialist
Not sure what a college thesis proves since many young academics without real world experience experimented with socialism before they matured, but a) Erick makes the case that the thesis is in line with her later writings, and; b) Barack Obama has surrounded himself with socialists and Marxist/Leninists his entire career, so a judge that currently supports socialism would certainly be someone he would find attractive as a nominee.
It is valid evidence by itself? Certainly not. Does it help paint a broader picture of her beliefs to augment her quite thin resume? Perhaps. Will it make a difference? Doubtful.
Baring a real stunner of a scandal hiding in the wings, get ready for Justice Kagan.
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Unfortunately, we've already been subverted by Bolsheviks.
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Going Postel
The left-wing media are desperate to create some sort of smear to delegitimize the Tea Party movement, and having failed at false charges of racism, and false charges of violence, they're now stuck with pathetic attempts using minor academics to toss out absurd comparisons that Dan Rather would have the common sense to avoid.
Birchers? Klansmen?
Really?
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This must be some sort of guilt by non association thingie. We don't do that, so we are guilty of that. I quit reading politico quite a ways back. This is one of the reasons.
Posted by: TimothyJ at May 14, 2010 12:11 PM (IKKIf)
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I'm not sure how Jon Postel would speak on this and related subjects, but since he is dead, and because he is much revered in other fora, I wish you would use the word "postal" which seems to be more on-topic anyway.
Posted by: Larry Sheldon at May 14, 2010 12:16 PM (OmeRL)
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This one is almost as ludicrous as the guy last week who wrote that the Tea Partiers were like the Jacobins during the French Revolution. The problem with that analogy is that the Jacobins wanted a strong central government, wanted to kill all the aristocrats (right wingers?), and wanted lots of big-spending programs for the poor. Does that sound like the Tea Party to you?
Posted by: rivlax at May 14, 2010 12:33 PM (Op3RY)
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If you use the logic and associations that Politico does, then you could easily say the The One is a member of the SDS. O, wait, considering that he surrounds himself with old radicals, maybe he is.
I feel that the Tea Party must be having an effect for it to elicit such hate.
Posted by: David at May 14, 2010 12:40 PM (LVq3J)
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Looking at his "prize winning" book on populism, it is easy to see where he finds his material. Postel is living in the past. He looks to the past to find the types of people he expects to find in the "Tea Party."
The "Tea Party," like all movements, doesn't require membership cards or an entry process, so you can always find whatever you are looking for .. especially when you are a mass movement.
Posted by: Neo at May 15, 2010 08:28 AM (tE8FB)
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I'm sorry but this guy loses all credibility with his reference to "a moderate American president" and meaning Obama. Eisenhower you could classify as moderate, but there is nothing moderate about Obama.
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In the Best of Hands...
Just because you're the Attorney General of the United States doesn't mean you should actually read a short ten-page law before condemning it... does it, Eric?
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., who has been critical of Arizona's new immigration law, said Thursday he hasn't yet read the law and is going by what he's read in newspapers or seen on television.
Also going by what he's seen on television, Holder has appointed Special Agent
Leroy Jethro Gibbs to run the interrogation unit at Guantánamo Bay due to his near 100% success rate in obtaining vital information from captured suspects while at NCIS.
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I thought he was getting Jack Bauer?
Posted by: Retired Navy at May 14, 2010 05:24 AM (Mv/2X)
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Nah, everyone knows Jack Bauer is finally hanging it up in a few weeks.
Posted by: MikeM at May 14, 2010 07:02 AM (zfcnf)
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Leroy Jethro Gibbs is far too ethical a devotee of truth and "the American Way" to affiliate himself with the present Administration.
So am I.
Marianne Matthews
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at May 14, 2010 11:49 AM (Aaj8s)
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Just another AA comment by an AA poster boy.
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Laughter At McCain's New Border Stance
McAmnesty isn't fooling anyone:
Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) couldn't contain himself Thursday when he saw footage of Sen. John McCain's (R) latest campaign ad.
In the ad, the Arizona senator says that the state has to "complete the danged fence" along the Arizona-Mexico border. A sheriff walking with him responds, "Senator, you're one of us."
In an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Shadegg, who is retiring, could be seen laughing along with hosts Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, and Mika Brzezinski.
Hopefully, this will be McCain's last campaign.
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I laughed too, one of the funniest adds ever taped, I also hope John is voted out of office.
Posted by: duncan at May 14, 2010 12:39 AM (lGcPs)
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The important thing is to get the "danged" Border Fence completed, in spite of politicians, corrupt or otherwise.
Legal immigrants here in Texas are already angry at the 'con-persons' and vandals among the illegal aliens who are clouding the issue, which is otherwise quite simple. Our country, our borders.
Marianne Matthews, native-born American citizen ...
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Hawaii Shows Birthers The Door
They shall serve no whine:
The island state's Republican Gov. Linda Lingle signed into law on Wednesday a bill that would allow Hawaii to ignore repeated requests for President Obama's birth certificate.
Health Department officials say they still get 10 to 20 e-mails each week requesting verification that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, which prompted the law.
Speculation about the President's birthplace has continued on the Internet for nearly two years, despite evidence that he was born in the nation's 50th state in 1961.
"I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health," Lingle said during a recent interview on WABC Radio with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.
"The President was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii," she said. "And that's just a fact."
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They need a law to ignore emails? How idiotic can they get?!
Posted by: 6Kings at May 13, 2010 11:33 AM (Ef4ZB)
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Isn't this old news? I remember hearing about it last year. Stupid, but still old. And a Republican? Time for a primary challenge.
Posted by: TimothyJ at May 13, 2010 11:57 AM (IKKIf)
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And we are supposed to believe her?! Why then does he not have a SSN from Hawaii, why is his from Connecticut and not given out until late 70's when he was not a resident of that state nor any of his family members or him ever a resident.
This is being hushed by the media right now.
It is on world net daily
Posted by: Patriot4Ever at May 13, 2010 01:40 PM (1y/IE)
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It isn't just about whether Obama was born in Hawaii, it's about whether a person born to at least one parent of a different nationality and by that fact receiving dual citizenship.
And it's not just about Obama. There were questions about John McCain's birth as well, questions that were answered when the Senate held hearings. There were questions about Goldwater being born in Arizona before it became a state, those were similarly resolved.
Why is it that ONLY Obama is exempt from such questioning? Whether he was born in Hawaii there are legal questions about whether a person with dual citizenship is considered a 'natural born' citizen under the Constitution.
This isn't a birther conspiracy, it is citizens engaging in one of the duties of a republic, educating themselves about their leaders.
It is reasonable to put these questions to rest by opening up the long-form birth certificate and any records pertaining to travel under a different country's passport.
Posted by: NevadaDailySteve at May 13, 2010 02:35 PM (+xi30)
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Ear leader is probably a natural born citizen. They're just hiding the fathers name.Frank Marshall Davis or unknown would be embarrassing.
Posted by: ck at May 13, 2010 04:17 PM (FilQu)
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Yeah, put me in the "something embarrassing is on the birth certificate" camp rather then the "he wasn't born in the US camp".
Pretty sure if I had the actual birth certificate, and there was nothing embarrassing on it, I'd use it to tar the GOP with the birther brush. He's holding back something the media would love to trumpet to the heavens as a body blow to all opponents of Obama....and he's not. Which means keeping it locked away is more benefit then having it out there.
Besides, on a practical level....what exactly do we do if the worst case scenario is on some long shot, actually true? What if we have ironclad, definitive evidence (not just circumstantial stuff)that proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that Obama was born outside the United States? What then? Who would issue a warrant for his arrest? Who would enforce it? Biden then becomes President? Oh, and the Dems get a virtual martyr to rally their base, and in 2012 a fresh Dem can run without the Obama record dragging them down. Meanwhile, it bears repeating, Joe Biden is the most powerful man in the world.
Sorry, I'd rather have the current snooty man-child with a Napoleon complex then a high functioning retard in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Britt at May 14, 2010 01:03 AM (VN7Wi)
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Steve, you know why O is exempt; it is for PC reasons of demonstrating racial solidarity. As to the first comment, it is probably a legal, maybe a state constitutional requirement to respond to public appeals much like FOIA. You'll notice it says that REPEATED requests for docs can be ignored which implies that any individual may make a single request and the gub must respond. It holds out a tactic for the future where ever increasing numbers of individual citizens each make their one request, maybe at intentionally abusive levels. Nasty and venal... I like it.
Posted by: megapotamus at May 14, 2010 01:49 PM (LWhHe)
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""The President was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii," she said. "And that's just a fact.""
Yeah, but that still does not make him a citizen of the USA. It ONLY means that he carries his father's citizenship - which was Kenya.
Even Michelle Obama has admitted to such several times.
Could it be time for a national law, mandating that candidates prove sole citizenship before being able to run in Nov election?
Posted by: captainfish at May 14, 2010 09:37 PM (dKz3t)
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The reason they are not producing the BC is because no one should have the right to get your BC outside of a court order for any reason.
That goes for the Pres as well.
That being said, I think the P. is not producing his BC and I say it is just Mr. P. holding something back to be a jerk.
Posted by: Ron at May 15, 2010 08:41 AM (B9qRp)
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If they treated this a top secret national security info, it would have been front page in the NY Times.
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Progressives Panic Over TN Restaurant Carry Law
Is Alan Colmes merely dim, or deeply dishonest?
That is the decision you have to make when you read his nonsensical headline "
Tennessee Republicans Pushing Guns In Bars." Following the
less-than-brilliant guidance of Think Progress, Colmes dishonestly suggests that the goal of Tennessee's legislature is to put armed civilians in bars.
No person with a bit of common sense will swallow that argument, but that means every liberal will. As they aren't bright enough to figure out the facts on their own, I'll try to explain it in small words they can understand.
Like many states, TN treats bars and restaurants that serve alcohol identically under the law. The law that Colmes is shaking with indignant fury over was not written with the intent of encouraging people to carry guns in to bars, but to allow concealed carry permit holders to retain their weapons on their persons when they go out to dinner at restaurants that serve beer, wine, or mixed drinks. It is a law designed to let citizens who carry legally at IHOP also carry legally at TGI Fridays... that is all. It allows people who go to lunch or dinner at some restaurants that were formerly off limits. That is all.
They aren't looking to recreate the fabled Wild West, despite what Colmes & Shakir claim.
The only real question is whether they are lying to their easily-led readers on purpose, or if they is just as uneducated as those that follow them.
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Your comments about Colmes are accurate, but I think the Left in general has an overall distaste of the Second Amendment, which results in such chicanery.
Posted by: Adam Woodford at May 12, 2010 05:05 PM (d//ej)
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They did the same down here in Georgia over this same issue. Yet, there hasn't been any shoot outs or wild west stuff yet.
But, the crime rate has gone down on MARTA and over all crime in Atlanta is down too.
So congrats and welcome to the club.
Posted by: Michael at May 12, 2010 05:20 PM (PU7e+)
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Take a quick look at TX Law. Not in bars...but OK in bars and restaurants. On balance, not a bad idea.
Texas CCL holder
Posted by: RiverRat at May 12, 2010 07:57 PM (RpON0)
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Many years ago (pre-Hannity/Colmes) I called in to Mr. Colmes' radio talk show when the topic was gun control. Even several liberal friends who happened to hear the conversation told me they thought Colmes to be irrational and unwilling to engage what they grudgingly admitted to be rational points. Nice to know some things don't change.
Posted by: mikemcdaniel at May 12, 2010 09:58 PM (qjRSd)
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This is no surprise to me. It is, in fact, vintage Colmes - invent stories cut from whole cloth then repeat them loudly and often.
Alan Colmes was the prime mover & shaker behind all the horrible allegations about Sara Palin after her candidacy for VP was announced. He did several hit pieces on her at his website that were so disgusting I & a number of others complained to Fox and to Hannity about them. He was forced to take some of those false allegations down, but the damage was done.
Colmes is not a news reporter. He is a rumour monger of the very worst sort.
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I try to dissect the past 40 years of the United States (NOT the homeland, btw) politics with my latest post - as unbiased as possible - Confederate Yankee, I'm adding you to my blogroll - good stuff!
Basically what I'm trying to articulate is how we are evolving into a more segmented, ‘strange bedfellows’ political spectrum - I'd appreciate you and your blog followers’ feedback - here's the direct link here:
http://blameblakeart.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/three-dimensional-thought-structure%E2%84%A2-applied-to-linear-politics/
Thanks much!
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Posted by: blakeart at May 13, 2010 09:57 AM (S8lzv)
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It's important to remember that the law allows HCP holders to carry where alcohol is served ONLY if they are not consuming alcohol. The leftists tend to skip over that part.
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President Jerk
Some government officials remember that they represent not just themselves, but an entire nation, so they try to act at all times with class and decorum.
Barack Obama will never be confused with those people:
When President Obama was asked if he would play a round of golf with his talk-radio nemesis Rush Limbaugh, the response, relayed by a top Democrat, was: "Limbaugh can play with himself."
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Of course it would be unwise for him to play golf with his Nemesis. Any executive with actual experience would find a way to say no thank you. Of course the most hip, coolest, smartest President evah just can't resist the double entendre. So unifying, such aplomb. It's like overharing a purile 12 year in the schoolyard. Embarassing, and kind of creepy.
Posted by: garrettc at May 12, 2010 02:06 PM (DQjJA)
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I would bet a paycheck president purile declared how witty am I? right after comming up with that winning snark
Posted by: rumcrook¾ at May 12, 2010 02:16 PM (60WiD)
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I choose to call him
President "School on Sunday"
'Cause he has NO CLASS!
Posted by: Less at May 12, 2010 02:21 PM (PGXeZ)
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This ranks up there with Obama's desire to bow to everyone. I don't think he knows what it means to be president. The President of the US does not acknowledge the existence of people like Rush. Don't get me wrong. I think Rush is great. But someone in a superior position does not acknowledge the critism of the media.
Posted by: David at May 12, 2010 02:42 PM (dccG2)
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The intrinsic pettiness and conceit of Obama always finds a way to shine through his "cool" demeanor.
Posted by: zhombre at May 12, 2010 03:54 PM (p3VBZ)
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Hmm. That accurately sums up what he's been doing rather than representing America since he entered office, no?
Posted by: mikemcdaniel at May 12, 2010 04:59 PM (qjRSd)
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This bozo is a one term President; after 2012, he'll have trouble getting a foursome together on a muni golf course; so he'll have to "play with
himself"
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Think Progress Duped By Class Project
And the sad thing is, the kids weren't even trying to fool anyone; Think Progress simply did it to themselves.
The Center for American Progress seemed to have blockbuster news on Tuesday: an expose titled "Telecoms' Secret Plan To Attack Net Neutrality."
On its Think Progress blog, the liberal advocacy group announced it had "obtained" a PowerPoint document "which reveals how the telecom industry is orchestrating the latest campaign against Net neutrality" through a pseudo-grassroots effort. The story was echoed on Slashdot, Boing Boing, and innumerable pro-regulation blogs.
There's just one problem with Think Progress' claim: It's not, well, accurate.
In a case of truth being stranger than astroturf, it turns out that the PowerPoint document was prepared as a class project for a competition in Florida last month. It cost the six students a grand total of $173.95, including $18 for clip art.
The "No Net Brutality" campaign idea was one of the four finalists created as an assignment for a two-and-a-half week "think tank MBA" program. The other finalists were a project promoting free speech in Venezuela, one supporting education reform in Poland, and one dealing with sales taxes rates in Washington, D.C. ("No Net Brutality" came in third. The Polish reform idea won.)
Not only was the PowerPoint document presentation no secret, but it was posted publicly on the competition's blog, along with an audio recording of the event in Miami where the student contestants presented their ideas to the judges.
The mastermind behind this SNAFU is Lee Fang, who some of you will recognize as a faithful but unimaginative Oliver Willis-grade drone.
(h/t/
Simon Owens)
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Not every complex problem needs to have a complex (and expensive) solution. Check out this quite green idea for capturing much of the oil still being emitted by the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
Via the Huffington Post, which
has the back story.
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As a somewhat different idea, I ran across this. It explains why this works, although in the context of a different thing to absorb it, human hair.
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2010 10:32 AM (RZhcI)
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Too bad this makes so much sense. Our betters in Washington will never go for it.
Posted by: TimothyJ at May 12, 2010 10:52 AM (IKKIf)
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Note the real reason for this catastrphe, the word to use the hay has to come from "up top". That means it has to go the the executatives, then the lawyers, then Washington, then to committee and more lawyers. But the time the ok comes the oil will have been naturally processed by nature and we can drill for it again.
Note all the finger pointing on who is to blame for this. I have worked rigs and can tell you that the project engineer at BP is the one with the prize. He and only he is the man that prevents a blow out. He calculates the mud, makes sure the preventers are working, ok's the cement and so forth. If he was on the floor when the well blew, which is where he belngs, then he should have been the last man off and should have died closing the rig. I have known this to occur.
Posted by: David at May 12, 2010 01:13 PM (dccG2)
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Great idea. Maybe I'm a pessimist but I don't see this going anywhere because the right palms aren't being greased. Besides we Americans tend to go for over-complicated and over-engineered solutions. During the space race we spent millions to develop a pen that worked in the vacuum of space. The Soviets used pencils.
I love this country but sometimes the people running it are schmucks.
Posted by: NevadaDailySteve at May 12, 2010 01:18 PM (+xi30)
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While the hay demo represents an admirable effort, the trouble is that it doesn't scale up to sufficiently address the actual scope of the problem at hand.
The volume of hay required to collect the amount of oil present makes the idea logistically impractical in this case. Several folks have already done the math, Google it if you're interested.
On the other hand, for something like keeping a repair garage leak from fouling a local river, it's a quick and easy solution.
Posted by: Junk Science Skeptic at May 12, 2010 02:05 PM (Fnr44)
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This was posted to you tube a week ago. How many hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil have been spilled and uncaptured since then? Fix the problem now, point fingers later.
Posted by: Web at May 12, 2010 02:20 PM (Fp/GI)
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A lot of wheat straw available. After the grain is thrashed a lot of us bail up the straw and have it around just in case. I don't care who did the math, there is a lot of old wheat straw sitting around, and there is a whole lot more in the fields after harvest. It would probably be worth more than the grain.
Posted by: bman at May 12, 2010 02:54 PM (ne/1s)
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I agree with every comment here - especially Nevada Steve... and I site all the completely unnecessary projects the Military Industrial Complex has produced over the past 50+ years.
But simple, workable, logical answers like these two gentleman have produced will get ignored... because some petro-chemical corporation wants and gets the contract for dumping even more crap into the ocean. That, my friends, is the height and definition of fascism - greased palms and all.
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Posted by: blakeart at May 13, 2010 11:15 AM (S8lzv)
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You forget that you are talking about his imperial majesty the President. Why he could make a decree and force the use of behaya grass. After all that is what you all really just said didn't you? So he should just order it done and it will be now won't it?
I say he will throw everything and the kitchen sink at the problem including the hay.
Posted by: Ron at May 15, 2010 09:02 AM (B9qRp)
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It is amazing. Really amazing. This is not a big problem.
Since the incident about 4.3 million gallons have spewed from the well.
Four million gallons of oily water have been skimmed from the water. That means about 2 million gallons of crude have been skimmed.
1.9 million gallons have been either absorbed by sorbet buoys, or the chemicals dumped to disperse it.
That leaves less than half a million gallons still in the water, and it will be cleaned up shortly. They are gaining ground on the problem.
Now here is another little known fact. 16 million gallons of crude comes up through seeps in the cap rocks in the gulf every year, and is cleaned up naturally without any human intervention.
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