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April 14, 2004
Wow, Electric Venom abandoned MT for Word Press. Some of the feature of Word Press:
Of course, a couple of these features are available with MT, but I like the password protected post idea, the integrated blogrolling, and publishing without rebuilding. I am not quite sure what is meant by semantic elegance, however. Maybe that means there will be automatic spell checking. So Pixy, how is Minx coming along? Are we gonna be able to kick Word Press butt?
- Instant publishing with no rebuilding
- Full standards compliance
- Integrated blogrolling features
- Password-protected posts
- Dead simple upgrades and installation
- Dozens of styles and templates
- Multiple authors
- Multiple categories
- Sub-categories
- Semantic elegance
- Uses PHP and MySQL
Posted by: notGeorge at 08:22 PM | Comments (26) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
BIG problem with Wordpress - it only supports a single blog. So we'd have to install 70 copies of it. And 70 MySQL databases. And the Recent Posts thing here on Munuviana wouldn't work. And so on.
When they say "instand publishing with no rebuilding" they really mean that it rebuilds every time someone loads your page, which means it's faster for you but slower for your readers.
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 02:10 AM
Posted by: Mr Mouse @ at April 15, 2004 05:46 AM
Also the page generation issues are not a problem. Most decent servers, and I reckon that munuviana's would be more than decent, would be able to handle it. Server load is free with your hosting; disc space is a big issue.
What's Minx?
Posted by: OF Jay @ at April 15, 2004 06:40 AM
Minx is the blogging system I'm writing. It's specifically designed for handling communities of bloggers. It's also very very fast. Only problem is that development has been stalled the past two months because I was tied up with other projects.
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 07:33 AM
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 07:35 AM
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 07:37 AM
Posted by: OF Jay @ at April 15, 2004 07:39 AM
(We currently have 70+ blogs, and mine, which isn't the most popular by a good margin, does average about 1000 page-views a day.)
So with 200 blogs, that's 200,000 pages, which takes 100,000 seconds... Which is about 27 hours.
Or I could install and maintain 70 copies of WordPress. I don't know how fast WordPress generates pages, but dynamic generation from an SQL database is a lot more CPU-intensive than serving up static pages - or even Minx's semi-static pages.
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 07:45 AM
Too true. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the right tool, which is why I'm making one myself.
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 07:47 AM
70 copies of wordpress sounds like a bunch, but there really isn't a load to maintain. In fact, there isn't almost anything to maintain in PHP myAdmin at all. It's there, and it sits pretty.
Depending on how many entries and queries you have for the front page, generation can take anywhere from a fifth of a second to half a second.
Posted by: OF Jay @ at April 15, 2004 05:11 PM
The database is probably not a problem, but wait until the next version of Wordpress comes out. I am not going to be interested in updating 70 installations of the software.
Now, those times of a fifth to half a second are interesting, because that's just the range I saw with Expression Engine. Minx updates faster than that on a new post, and produces pages far faster than that. Check out my blog for a Minxified MT blog - generation time is 5 to 7 milliseconds. (See the bottom of my right-hand sidebar. I've hacked MT to generate my pages the way Minx does.)
Page generation times of half a second are unsupportable. 70 independent software installations is unsupportable. And having to use cron jobs to overcome fundamental failings of the blogging tool is unsupportable.
I'm sure Wordpress is fine for a low-to-medium-volume blog - and for one which gets a lot of updates and/or comments, it's a better tool than Movable Type. But it's lousy if you want to run lots of blogs, and fatal if you run lots of blogs with lots of readers.
It's a good tool, from what I can tell. But for MuNu, it's a hacksaw, and we need a milling machine.
Posted by: Pixy Misa @ at April 15, 2004 06:12 PM
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