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Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Nov. 7

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More Late Color from Don in Kansas on October 16.

All the rain that we didn't get this summer fell during the past three weeks, 8.5 inches worth. The clematis that had gone dormant during the hot, dry weather woke up and is blooming again.

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Ceratotheca triloba

And see the link above for photos and growing information on 'Darlow's Enigma' Rose, Symphyotrichum [Aster] oblongifolium, Salvia azurea, Thunbergia and a white form, plus Helianthus maximiliani (which had kept going since the last time we saw a photo of this magnificent sunflower.

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Ever heard of this? Apparently, it contains Vitamin K. Wonder how many of us could grow it indoors in winter?


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Don in Kansas knows how to prepare for holiday visitors through research:

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Puttering, Self-Improvement and Connection

This is one of the non-political Saturday threads, but if you missed it, someone posted in the comments on a recent thread an AoSHQ thread by Warden from another hard time, in 2012. It is entitled Where do we go from here? We talk about home and preparedness issues here, and we should probably talk sometimes about how we connect with neighbors.

Topics touched on in Warden's post include:

Focus on self-improvement

Get in shape

Outperform

Prepare

Preparation is a topic that fits into this thread. There are some ideas in Warden's post that we may sometimes neglect.


Small things add up

Some interesting ideas on doing the things you can and maintaining an attitude of gratitude.

Some AoSHQ threads have staying power.


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Adventure

Remember the Halloween quilt lady? She and her husband teamed up with a hiking friend for a post-Halloween adventure:

We finally got to hike in the Superstitions. The saguaros are abundant and thriving, the jagged skyline crystal clear blue with puffy clouds, the trail rocky and beckoning us on. We reached the end where there was running water from the rain storms. Also some very cool petroglyphs. There were a lot of people out enjoying this trail today!

After our hike, we drove to Tortilla Flat. I didn't know such a place existed. It's a teeny ghost town. The saloon/restaurant walls are covered in dollar bills. People write their names and the date on the bill and staple it to the wall. Some are layered 4 deep. My favorite had colored over Washington's face with a Batman mask and put a conversation bubble saying "I am Batman." There were even dollar bills under plastic on the tabletop. I'm sure there was at least a million dollars stapled to the walls. For being out in the middle of nowhere, there were a heck if a lot of people having lunch there. The food was great! Part of the road was still flooded, but it wasn't on the part where we drove in.

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Wyatt Earp?


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Gardens of The Horde

What's happening in your garden?


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

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Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Halloween!

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:24 PM




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1 The ginko vids are cool.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:31 PM (l3cgK)

2 Morning KT, thanks for showing some of the area less than 25 mins from where AOP and we live.
We ate ate Tortilla flat 2 weeks ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:31 PM (NnhvP)

3 I'm pretty sure vegan's mouths water when they smell meat cooking...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (l3cgK)

4 When I was I student there were two Ginkgo trees on either side of the entrance to the main library at OSU. I don't know whether they were male or female trees but after it rained they always smelled like someone had lost their cookies there.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 01:44 PM (lJ0H4)

5 I don't know whether they were male or female trees but after it rained they always smelled like someone had lost their cookies there.
Posted by: Tuna

Female, then... or at least one was. Every ginko sold by nurseries since they were introduced (? when) have been male clones. In any given population, at least 10% will become females.
The seed inside the fruit is what is sold as "ginko biloba" (Latin name of the tree). The fruit is considered a delicacy in Asia, and actually has a neat taste...after you get it past your nose.

Posted by: MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:49 PM (ik4bQ)

6 We're gonna have fresh maters at Thanksgiving... well, semi-fresh anyway.

Posted by: MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:50 PM (ik4bQ)

7 Regarding the bar with the dollar bills. There is (or was) a club in Chania, Crete, that did the same thing. It was a watering hole for American soldiers, most of whom were on the island for live fire missile exercises. I left a dollar there myself back in August 1990.

That was where I learned that Ouzo is the devil's drink.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at November 07, 2026 01:51 PM (0aYVJ)

8 One other thing about ginkos... they're very well mannered. They'll drop every leaf on the tree is a day or two.
Compare to the red oak group.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:51 PM (ik4bQ)

9 actually has a neat taste...after you get it past your nose.
Posted by: MkY

As is Durian?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:54 PM (NnhvP)

10 Ok, more veggie tales-
Our Magyar peppers (grown for paprika) performed horribly all summer. Since it's cooled off, they've exploded. Go figger.
Smoked a bunch yesterday for drying. Some we smoke, some we don't.
Also, you'd think jalapenos would prefer hot, dry weather (well, I did). We're still getting folks to come pick all they want.
Weird.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:54 PM (ik4bQ)

11 As is Durian?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Dunno. Never had it. I've gotten a few people to try ginko. Most won't.
Tuna's right. Smell's like a kennel.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:56 PM (ik4bQ)

12 I'm pretty sure vegan's mouths water when they smell meat cooking...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (l3cgK)

That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:56 PM (6ydKt)

13 I haven't either.
I've smelled it and that was enough.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:57 PM (NnhvP)

14 If only the vegans could hear they tiny, muted, screams of the lettuce as it’s turned into salad maybe they’d take a different view on life.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (6ydKt)

15 That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Yeah, never got that.
Do I complain when they grill their tofu?
I do not.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (ik4bQ)

16 We were supposed to be able to take just one pill a day for all of our nutritional needs by now.

The future is never as advertised.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:00 PM (6ydKt)

17 15 That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Yeah, never got that.
Do I complain when they grill their tofu?
I do not.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (ik4bQ)

They could save a step by throwing it directly in the trash...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:02 PM (l3cgK)

18 16 We were supposed to be able to take just one pill a day for all of our nutritional needs by now.

The future is never as advertised.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:00 PM (6ydKt)

True. No hoverboard yet, and we're 11 years past when they were supposed to be everywhere...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:03 PM (l3cgK)

19 I think the crows have finally given up on my pecan tree. I collected a couple of pounds max, the other...probably 20+ lbs were "collected" by the f'n crows.

I did just harvest another pitaya (cactus fruit--smooth on outside, white on inside like a dragon fruit). The cactus has gone mad; more flowers are developing right now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:05 PM (l3cgK)

20 Thanks KT.
Nice to see Tortilla Flat is still plugging along. Fun place. I am in the woods currently. All the leaves are on the ground . The only splashes of green are the pine needles. Happy Saturday, Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:05 PM (8EA41)

21 Music behind the ginkgo tree was beautiful, a perfect match for the beautiful tree. And a nice mind-cleanser for a guy who spent the last hour on computer TRYING to renew a license with Texas.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (LHPAg)

22 That is a lot of money on the walls.
Seems like it would be a nice place to visit.

I think the cowboys named their bathtub ‘Wyatt Earp’ as a joke or something.
Who can understand cowboy humor?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (6ydKt)

23 MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:50 PM

Congratulations !

Posted by: KT at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (X8QDB)

24 I am in the woods currently
scampydog

Don't settle for that 3 year old...

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:07 PM (ik4bQ)

25 Here’s the website for Tortilla Flat:

https://www.tortillaflataz.com/

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:08 PM (6ydKt)

26 Don't settle for that 3 year old...
Posted by: MkY
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Lol. A lot of truth in your comment.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (8EA41)

27 25 Here’s the website for Tortilla Flat:

https://www.tortillaflataz.com/

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:08 PM (6ydKt)

Went to Tombstone with the wife many years ago, never been to Tortilla Flat.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (l3cgK)

28 scampydog
I stuck a nice hickory last night. Dang thing walked, and I reacted instead of just waiting.
Pretty 8.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:12 PM (ik4bQ)

29 It's that time of year. The leave are turning to fall colors just before them wind takes them down. Even if the aren't brilliant in normal light, when the bright sunlight hits them they are transformed. The browns turn into deep burnished gold and bronze. The reds become all shades of ruby. The yellows can run the gamut from fresh dandelion to almost white. The remaining greens are interspersed throughout. And it all glows, as if lit from within. It is beautiful and almost holy to look at. There is usually just a two week window where the elements all work together but it is a wonderful window.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:13 PM (yTvNw)

30 I stuck a nice hickory last night. Dang thing walked, and I reacted instead of just waiting.
Pretty 8.
Posted by: MkY
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*knows knowingly* pine tree here two years back. Similar series of events.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:14 PM (8EA41)

31 I'm trying to root some thyme stems. They haven't died or dried up yet. If I look VERY closely there might be the first hints of roots starting. But it's at the point where that might be wishful thinking. Time will tell.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:16 PM (yTvNw)

32 31 I'm trying to root some thyme stems. They haven't died or dried up yet. If I look VERY closely there might be the first hints of roots starting. But it's at the point where that might be wishful thinking. Time will tell.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:16 PM (yTvNw)

ISWYDT

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:17 PM (l3cgK)

33 Went to Tombstone with the wife many years ago, never been to Tortilla Flat.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (l3cgK)

If I ever get to Arizona I’d like to see both of them.

Tortilla Flat looks like a nice daytrip.
The surrounding area is supposed to be nice and Southwestern.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

34 JTB
Aren't they like sweet tates? Root in water?

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:19 PM (ik4bQ)

35 34 ... "Aren't they like sweet tates? Root in water?"

MkY, Yup. I have the thyme stems in water in bright but not direct light. They haven't died yet so that's a moral victory.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:24 PM (yTvNw)

36 Aren't they like sweet tates?
How'd muh sweet tate lat nite?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 02:27 PM (r50HQ)

37 In past years I took care of my plants better. This summer, the lychee died. The longan almost died (watered it in time). Blackberries went close to extinct (but are damn persistent). Only Pecan, Guavas, and Cactus did well.

I guess not watering much has it's price...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:45 PM (l3cgK)

38 I always thought using sunlight was the best for a Christmas cactus and it does OK. But when I switched to a full spectrum LED light instead of a window or regular grow light, the thing is taking off. New leaves, stronger growth, and more flower buds than before. No fancy setup, just the bulb in a table lamp. Have to try that with the other succulents.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:47 PM (yTvNw)

39 The Superstition Mountains remind me of one of the books I read when I was a kid. I was a voracious reader, and many of the books were about kids who lived out west and had the freedom to roam in nature. Sometimes they were looking for treasure, and sometimes they just stumbled upon something really cool that made them ask questions and try to figure out what happened. I was fascinated by the sense of adventure.

Are kids nowadays ever getting any adventure out in nature?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 02:50 PM (w6EFb)

40 One of my Christmas cacti has flower buds, which is pretty cool since both of them have been on the back porch, mostly neglected.

Most of my plants have been through a Darwinian torture chamber this summer. Mama kind of sucked up all of my focus, and whatever I had left was drawn into escapist videos. So those who still live are pretty tough cookies.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (w6EFb)

41 There are so many leaves in the yard. The animals are tracking them in and I'm in a bad mood.

Tuesday looks to be nice so that will get done.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (Sco7b)

42 sometimes they just stumbled upon something really cool
Nekkid pitchers.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (BgG0R)

43 Hello folks. Blustery day here in the Mitten.

All that rain has made my kale sprout and my cilantro is clinging to life.

We might get snow next week.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 02:55 PM (kpS4V)

44 The dampness in Canada will make the yard miserable and I have a TON of trees. We had one year, where the town couldn't reallly collect them.

So I prefer to mulch them. Sometimes into December.

In Canada.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 02:58 PM (Sco7b)

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