Polls Are Made for Strippers and They Get Greasy and Slippery Around Closing Time

The New York Times admits that Republicans are 30% less likely to respond to polls at all.

And if a group disfavored by the media party refuses to answer at such high rates -- what is the skew within that group? That is, among the Republicans who do answer, is it the case that Republicans voting Democrat are the most likely "Republicans" to answer a leftwing pollster's questions?

I don't know. Seems likely to me, though.

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
🚨 UPDATE: New York Times just warned their blue wave final midterm polls are being flooded by white Democrats, with white Republicans answering **LESS THAN 2020**
"The persistence of this kind of nonresponse bias introduces the risk of a systematic polling error like those in 2016 or 2020."
"This cycle, Democrats are once again responding to Times/Siena polls at a much higher rate than Republicans. Across these final battleground polls, registered white Democrats were about 30 percent likelier to take the poll than registered white Republicans. That's actually a bit higher than in the final polls in 2020."
Show up.
Make their worst fears come true.

I suppose it's also possible that Republicans aren't answering pollsters' phone calls because we're dispirited or ashamed of our votes for Trump -- but, of course, pollsters also predicted big wins for Democrats in 2024. NBC claimed that Kamala Harris would smoke Trump by 5 points.

CNN's Harry Enten has been warning Democrats that the polls routinely, persistently, systematically overstate Democrat vote-share by around 3.5% in every single election, and if you adjust current poll figures to reflect that, suddenly Democrat gains in the Senate vanish into gas like yesteday's chalupa from Brian Stelter's colon.

c Abbenante
@EricAbbenante
Oct 30
Harry Enten looks over the 'spooky data' for the Democrats heading into the 2026 midterms:
Harry Enten: "They need to win in states that Donald John Trump didn't just win two years ago, but won by double digits.
Senate flips in states that the party lost by ten or more points in the last presidential election.
The number is 0 since 2011.
There have been times in which the polls actually suggested, hey, Republicans might actually lose in some of these Trump won states. And then it didn't happen. And we've seen it happen time and in time out.
GOP has beat the final Senate poll average by 4.1 points in states Trump won in the prior presidential election.
So if the past polling errors hold in these Trump one states, then all of a sudden Republicans are able to hold on to the United States Senate and with ease."
Wave goodbye, to the blue wave.

Communist front-group NBC has a poll that shows Republicans with a higher approval rating than Democrats, and higher approval on most of the main issues of the campaign, but you wouldn't know that from NBC's headline:

NBC News
@NBCNews
A new national NBC News poll finds key groups that boosted Trump in 2024 are shifting toward Democrats ahead of Tuesday's elections.

What they mean is that some left-leaning groups that shifted towards Trump in 2024 are now shifting back to the Democrats.

Which is what I'd expect, and it is a problem.

But here's what they're not highlighting:

NBC News' final election poll has the Democrat Party with worse favorable ratings than the Republican Party and Republicans still leading on who would do a better job on the economy, immigration, and corruption. https://t.co/Z6uylREP9f
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) November 1, 2026

Ed Morrissey:

Pollsters know this better than anyone. How are they addressing their pending credibility crisis? Some, like NBC's pollster, have shifted sharply away from their blue-wave predictions. Their new data shows Republicans suddenly leading on all of the presumed big issues in the election -- the economy, immigration, and corruption:
Even on the unpopular Iran war, Democrats only lead by five points, and only by one point on inflation, AKA "affordability." It's a wash on "protecting democracy," even before respondents got to absorb Democrats' attempt to defraud voters in Alaska with The Two Dans Sullivan plot. The GOP has a two-point lead on the economy, a five-point margin on corruption, and an eleven-point lead on immigration despite the two-year hysterics Democrats and the media have pitched over ICE and deportations.

Democrats lead on inflation by a single point -- one single point -- and on Iran by 5%.

I keep thinking back to how off he polls were in 2020 and how leftists are gleeful about the deaths of non-leftists. And the pollsters admit that Dems are far more invested in talking to pollsters than GOPers. Imagine if the results don't pan out like the doomsayers are predicting? Not saying it will happen, mind you, but the shrieking about RIGGED and HACKED THE ELECTION would be loud enough to reach the orbit of Saturd
— Physics Geek (@physicsgeek) November 2, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:20 PM

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1 It's an attempt by the pollsters to influence the outcome.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 02, 2026 05:21 PM (O7YUW)

2 You should see what happens to error rates when you try to weight all of this as a correction.

Also, I wonder if the independent samples are infected by the same issue or they're free from it completely?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at November 02, 2026 05:21 PM (IGotw)

3 At least it isn't nude pollsters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:22 PM (2GVsD)

4 Note how as the actual election grows nearer, a lot of polls that had wide margins in favor of the Democrats start dramatically shrinking those margins so they can say, "See, we weren't that far off."

Every. Time.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 02, 2026 05:22 PM (O7YUW)

5 Tater Tot Stetler has a chalupa in his exhaust pipe?

Taco Bell chihuahua, "please, do not DROP the chalupa senor!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:24 PM (2GVsD)

6 The New York Times admits that Republicans are 30% less likely to respond to polls at all.

===

something is up

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:24 PM (AKptf)

7 Note how as the actual election grows nearer, a lot of polls that had wide margins in favor of the Democrats start dramatically shrinking those margins so they can say, "See, we weren't that far off."

Every. Time.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 02, 2026 05:22 PM

Except for cnn, they just released their final poll that has talerico up by 4.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 02, 2026 05:25 PM (I43vL)

8 PSA...

It's not "grease" on the pole.

Thank You for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 02, 2026 05:25 PM (RORbl)

9 You know who looks like an overstuffed chalupa?

Katy Padilla Stout.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:25 PM (2GVsD)

10 The early polls were designed to discourage contributions to GOP "lost cause" campaigns.

Posted by: Vilano Man at November 02, 2026 05:26 PM (Ovx+P)

11 The incredible shrinking poll.

"Cold shower did it!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:26 PM (2GVsD)

12 People who voted for Trump aren't ashamed of anything.

Public shaming was a key campaign tactic of the Left from 2015 forward, and Trump's voters crawled across broken glass to elect him three times in a row.

Dispirited? Perhaps. But, if so, it's the Senate's fault, not Trump's.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 02, 2026 05:26 PM (BI5O2)

13 >The New York Times admits that Republicans are 30% less likely to respond to polls at all.

That number seems low.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 02, 2026 05:26 PM (rJ48h)

14 I think you look at the Dems infighting in Michigan about supporting their candidate and its hard to see how this fits in with a massive win for them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

15 Ok, polls!

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
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1h
2026 Ohio Governor (Rounded)

🔴 Vivek Ramaswamy: 48%
🔵 Amy Acton: 48%

Emerson poll | LV

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (AKptf)

16 The New York Times admits that Republicans are 30% less likely to respond to polls at all.

That number seems low.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 02, 2026 05:26 PM (rJ48h)\\

They got that from a poll.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

17 NOOD!

I'll get the others.
How are you? I hope well

And I'm sorry, I'm going to be posting stuff I found. Sorry for the hopium.

President Trump has a plan though. Mr. Veto. Trump 2.0 came for war.

I'll get the village voice guide to the conservative blogoshpere from 2008 here too.

Our stupidity to evil ratio was only 99-1.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (Sco7b)

18 If Dems are so confident in this election, why all the color revolution scheming that Data Republican & others have been uncovering?

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (ZQ9dP)

19

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
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1h
2026 Ohio Senate Race

🔴 Jon Husted (inc): 48.3%
🔵 Sherrod Brown 45.8%

Emerson poll

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (AKptf)

20 and....

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
1h
2026 Maine Senate Race

🔴 Susan Collins: 50.6%
🔵 Troy Jackson: 49.4%

Emerson poll

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (AKptf)

21 I think you look at the Dems infighting in Michigan about supporting their candidate and its hard to see how this fits in with a massive win for them.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

Great victories are only achieved through struggle

--Stuff Mao said when lit up on cheap beer

Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (rbvCR)

22 The good thing is we finally get the real poll tomorrow and then the counters will tell us what numbers they decide to go with.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (n5tGW)

23 Has Decoy Dan from Alaska been found yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (2GVsD)

24 Polls are devised to accomplish three things:
- Excite Democrat voters, boosting turnout
- Encourage Democrat donors to give money to the "winning side"
- depress GOP voters and lower GOP turnout

Recall the Des Moines Register poll in late 2024 that showed Trump behind in Iowa by 3 points.
He won the state by 12 points.

There's no post-election accountability, so these corrupt pollsters know they can just keep doing these bogus polls and their media allies happily parrot them 24/7.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (MNCvZ)

25 Emerson ...did a very good job in 2024 BTW. Just saying.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (AKptf)

26 Mao said, "power comes from the barrel of a gun."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (2GVsD)

27 and a screwy one...

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
1h
2026 Texas Senate

🔵 James Talarico: 49.8%
🔴 Ken Paxton: 48.4%

Emerson poll

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (AKptf)

28 I think you look at the Dems infighting in Michigan about supporting their candidate and its hard to see how this fits in with a massive win for them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

And black dems admitting on camera that Rogers is more pro-America than the islamist, to the point that they will vote for the R for the first time EVER.

I feel pretty good about the election.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (DVxMB)

29 There's no post-election accountability, so these corrupt pollsters know they can just keep doing these bogus polls and their media allies happily parrot them 24/7.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 02, 2026 05:28 PM (MNCvZ)

That's also true because the system that supports them, the MSM, is circling the drain itself.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (uhVAy)

30
I am shocked that here in Oregon they've had to drag Obama out to campaign for Governor Tina Kotek. The libs are really spending money on ads. This is not normal here. I have a sneaking suspicion that the libs are seeing something that is making them work a little harder than usual to keep what they have.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (OkYzo)

31 something is going on in TX and it's not good...

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (AKptf)

32 Taco, taco
Taco, burrito
I will grant all your wishes
With my taco flavored kisses!

Posted by: brian stelter in a dress at November 02, 2026 05:30 PM (r+QM9)

33 I've seen and heard a lot of pretty compelling reasons why polls might be *under*-representing Democratic votes, but not much going the other way.

If Dems get 54 seat and Grassley dies, that’s 55. Plus in 2028 picking off North Carolina, Wisconsin gives them 57. Ohio and Florida are special elections and if Murkowski retires, there’s a shot they can get 60 senate seats. Unlikely, but possible.

They will nuke the filibuster. We won't need 60.

Republicans have done an impressive, truly impressive job of shitting the bed and tanking their numbers. This is always what aligning with Trump will ultimately get you.

2028 better all be about corruption or dems don’t have a good chance. Hopefully the house exposes something

Given how the corruption story has FINALLY broken through, it will be a major part of the 2026 Blue wave, even if the Dems didn't fully capitalize on it.

Sorry what corruption story?

Is this a serious question? More like it hit a critical mass. What breaks through is “corruption at the expense of regular Americans”. Which need time for the “let them eat cake while we build the data centers” to develop.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 02, 2026 05:30 PM (4agYt)

34 You know who looks like an overstuffed chalupa?

Katy Padilla Stout.

A fat chick named, "Stout?" That's too on the nose. Please rework this character.

Posted by: A Creative Writing Instructor at November 02, 2026 05:30 PM (mkw2N)

35 Gaylord should stay out of any Cheesecake Factory.

He may get his just desserts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:30 PM (2GVsD)

36 would be loud enough to reach the orbit of Saturd

— Physics Geek

Is Neil InDeyGrass Tyson renaming planets now?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (nEUC6)

37 Shocking how the polls shift toward Republicans right before election day.

Just like always.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (viF8m)

38 My cell phone lists the caller name and if it is not a person, says "Probably Spam" or "Political Call" or "Telemarketer".
For the last three months I've received literally dozens of them every week.
I picked up a Political Call once and it was a pollster asking me about a survey of who I was voting for. I lied about most, but not all of them. In the last month or so, I continue to pick up many of the Political Calls, just to mess with their surveys, and never, ever tell them what I am really thinking. According to their survey results, I have to be a Democrat activist by now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (Uvvcx)

39 of course this is totally opposite.

Election Wizard
@ElectionWiz
·
13h
TEXAS POLL — U.S. Senate

🟥 Ken Paxton: 48.1%
🟦 James Talarico: 47.5%

Trafalgar poll | 10/31-11/1 LV

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (AKptf)

40 2026 Texas Senate

🔵 James Talarico: 49.8%
🔴 Ken Paxton: 48.4%

Emerson poll
Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (AKptf)

I have a hard time with that one... If Texas were to go blue I can't see it happening with that guy...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (4WM7K)

41 Some people need to beat with a pole.

Posted by: Eromero at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (LHPAg)

42 Great victories are only achieved through struggle

--Stuff Mao said when lit up on cheap beer
Posted by: Kindltot

Ripped off word for word from Kim Il Sung's "Juche!"

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (Y8DZL)

43 These polls are seriously flawed and its obvious.

Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Even honest polls miss swings in turnout when some cohorts unexpectedly get off their asses and vote.

Happened in 2016 when Hillary was 95% certain to win, because the polls said so. They missed White Non-College coming out for Trump, unexpectedly.
(I called 300+ EVs with a 5% increase in White Non-College)

I expect it will happen tomorrrow. Let us pray ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (dtajH)

44 here is another poll..

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
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1h
49% of voters say they are satisfied with their financial situation per NBC Poll

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (AKptf)

45 something is going on in TX and it's not good...
Posted by: runner
......

Too many Californians moved there?

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (UjdFS)

46 "Communist front-group NBC"

This is known as truth in reporting. Thanks Ace.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (Uvvcx)

47 >>Not saying it will happen, mind you, but the shrieking about RIGGED and HACKED THE ELECTION would be loud enough to reach the orbit of Saturd

In fact, they are going to say that no matter the outcome.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (viF8m)

48 I saw several lefties passing around their own version of "unskew the polls."

See, the NYT has adjusted the weighting of raw responses since 2022.

And if you use that old weighting, the polls understate Dems by 2-5 points.

Or:
250 in the House and 55 in the Senate.

Rs holding the Senate will crush them.
Holding both will obliterate them.

Then, after they're done crying, they'll get all fake and gay and start jerking off to internet randos "proving" Musk hacked the election with XP7000 Starlink UltraMaga satellites.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (3cUTc)

49
Has Decoy Dan from Alaska been found yet?

I'M DAN SULLIVAN!

Posted by: Spartacus at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (Cqx++)

50 Know the op when you see it. It’s the same op as every election: Leftwing media pile-ons about massive blew waves like Kamala sucking off papa Smurf.

They are trying to dispirit us. They are trying to convince us all hope is lost so stay home on Election Day. That’s their only hope. They know the polls are bullshit. They secretly are very worried.

Don’t fall for it. Vote. Vote hard. Even in deep blue states and cities. Vote.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (reaaR)

51 Who answers the phone for either 'unknown' or 'polling somethingorother'?

Not this guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (zZu0s)

52 Unless someone turns off all the key R voting districts across the country.(which is ab oht 50/50 chance) ..it does not look bad.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (AKptf)

53 Why would any republican answer a poll? Even if you did you don't know if the polster shit canned your answers or even recorded the opposite of what you answered.

Aren't all polling companies mostly leftist? Why would you trust them and support them? Their track record alone should be enough to never answer them other than to belittle them and cast aspersions on their lineage.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (cVNYn)

54 And yet, Paxton will win by 3 to 7 tomorrow.
Not close.

Posted by: Crystal Balls at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (vdUUQ)

55 🔵 James Talarico: 49.8%
🔴 Ken Paxton: 48.4%
Posted by: runner

I have a hard time with that one... If Texas were to go blue I can't see it happening with that guy...
Posted by: It's me donna

I have a hard one every time I think of that guy...and all the trans kids he loves.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (4agYt)

56 Too many Californians moved there?
Posted by: wth at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (UjdFS)

exactly

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (AKptf)

57 Will the real Dan Sullivan please stand up!

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (2GVsD)

58 Still trying to sell the talarico bullshit, are they. We shall see tomorrow.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2026 05:33 PM (8Uo7a)

59 If Dems get 54 seat and Grassley dies, that’s 55. Plus in 2028 picking off North Carolina, Wisconsin gives them 57. Ohio and Florida are special elections and if Murkowski retires, there’s a shot they can get 60 senate seats. Unlikely, but possible.

--------------------------------------

They expect to win a Senate election in all those states AND Alaska? Not to mention what they expect to happen tomorrow.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (uhVAy)

60 28 I think you look at the Dems infighting in Michigan about supporting their candidate and its hard to see how this fits in with a massive win for them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

And black dems admitting on camera that Rogers is more pro-America than the islamist, to the point that they will vote for the R for the first time EVER.

I feel pretty good about the election.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:29 PM (DVxMB)

And incoming.
I think blacks are going to destroy the dems.
There's been so many rich, 'influential' blacks that are openly being conservative.

And some of the comments from the videos are hopeful. Black families all voting conservative 2 years ago before all the trans crap was shoved in their faces.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (Sco7b)

61 My cell phone lists the caller name and if it is not a person, says "Probably Spam" or "Political Call" or "Telemarketer".
For the last three months I've received literally dozens of them every week.
I picked up a Political Call once and it was a pollster asking me about a survey of who I was voting for. I lied about most, but not all of them. In the last month or so, I continue to pick up many of the Political Calls, just to mess with their surveys, and never, ever tell them what I am really thinking. According to their survey results, I have to be a Democrat activist by now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 02, 2026 05:31 PM (Uvvcx)

I've been inundated by GOTV spam. It's maddening.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (DVxMB)

62 47 >>Not saying it will happen, mind you, but the shrieking about RIGGED and HACKED THE ELECTION would be loud enough to reach the orbit of Saturd

In fact, they are going to say that no matter the outcome.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (viF8m

Hush your mouth! Election denying is tantamount to treason, so we have been told!

Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (ZdaMQ)

63 > eople who voted for Trump aren't ashamed of anything.

Public shaming was a key campaign tactic of the Left from 2015 forward, and Trump's voters crawled across broken glass to elect him three times in a row.

Dispirited? Perhaps. But, if so, it's the Senate's fault, not Trump's.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
--------
It's the GOP's fault. They hold the Senate. Figuratively.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (RORbl)

64 Don't believe the Polls

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

65 lol. You guys will be so surprised! Inflation, gas prices, and forever wars are going to kill the GOP.

Posted by: Sid at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (GtfkG)

66 my recollection is that drudge the day before the 2024 election had kamala winning by 4 percent. don't know about the house of reps but i'd bet repubs keep the senate

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (CWTWj)

67 "You know who looks like an overstuffed chalupa?

Katy Padilla Stout"

You could tell beforehand from her name. Should have been born with the name of "Slender." 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (JrHfD)

68 Jennifer Lawrence has important news for you!
http://tiny.cc/m91d101

Posted by: Extra! Extra! at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (mkw2N)

69 Too many Californians moved there?

Fox news link
https://tinyurl.com/4wzmnscw

Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (CZuvr)

70 The good thing is tomorrow we finally get the first day of nine weeks of ballot "counting" by the Failed State of California.

Posted by: Vilano Man at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (Ovx+P)

71 Count the number of votes in your area that vote for the democrat candidate and that will tell you how many weirdoes, freaks, layabouts, bull dykes, fags, welfare queens, senior parasites and general all around scumbags live around you.

Posted by: They Vote For A Living at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (D5ixm)

72 re 65: eat a bag of dicks, it's a day ending in y

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (CWTWj)

73 Then, after they're done crying, they'll get all fake and gay and start jerking off to internet randos "proving" Musk hacked the election with XP7000 Starlink UltraMaga satellites.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:32 PM (3cUTc)

I haven't eaten at a good Salt Mine in years...

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (lLeLE)

74 55 🔵 James Talarico: 49.8%
🔴 Ken Paxton: 48.4%
Posted by: runner

I have a hard time with that one... If Texas were to go blue I can't see it happening with that guy...
Posted by: It's me donna

Right after soccer becomes the state sport.

Damn, I'm full of hopium today.
Links. Give me a minute.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (Sco7b)

75 If she was named Slender, then then everyone would be talking about the urban legend of SlenderMom.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (2GVsD)

76 the shrieking about RIGGED and HACKED THE ELECTION would be loud enough to reach the orbit of Saturd

It won't stop there.

Posted by: Uranus at November 02, 2026 05:35 PM (88C+u)

77
There's a 50% chance of blue waves, and a 50% chance of red thunderstorms. There's a 100% likelihood of gay shit that sounds retarded.

Posted by: YD Public Policy Polling, the Gold Standard in Desultory Folderol at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (BI5O2)

78 my recollection is that drudge the day before the 2024 election had kamala winning by 4 percent. don't know about the house of reps but i'd bet repubs keep the senate
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2026 05:34 PM (CWTWj)

Everyone keeps forgetting the redistricting a number of Red States did.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (uhVAy)

79
PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (w6EFb)

80 Polling companies are the same as the global warming guys, you give the answers that the people funding want to hear or they don't hire you for another. Notice how the global warming "consensus" died once the funding for research was cut off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (n5tGW)

81 > My cell phone lists the caller name and if it is not a person, says "Probably Spam"

I'm getting at least five, "Probably Spam" calls a day.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (mkw2N)

82 Democrat ads in KY are screaming about how redistricting is trying to 'divide' them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (2GVsD)

83 "If Dems are so confident in this election, why all the color revolution scheming that Data Republican & others have been uncovering?"

When it's a Red Wave -- not the predicted Blue Tsunami -- the Left will say it's proof that Election 2026 was stolen.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (dtajH)

84 I haven't been getting texts or calls that openly indicate they are political or polls. But if the phone says "Potential Spam," I ignore and delete it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (56Qyq)

85 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (w6EFb)

Not sure that was her fault, really.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (uhVAy)

86 willowed. A bunch. But blacks for Trump. Hopium from stateless.

50 And here's why Abdul is probably cooked aside from the 666% turnout in Detroit.

The Dems worst reality.

Nicki Minaj - black famale rapper expressing her love for President Trump in Port Huron. 2:16.

"President Trump. It is an honor to stand with you every single time. And I will continue to support you forever and ever."

I'd LOVE for her to be Press Secretary. Leftist heads would explode. And she'd tell the press off.

https://tinyurl.com/3brk8ujr

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:38 PM (Sco7b)

87 How many people refuse to talk to pollsters because they don't want to be "outed" as a conservative?

Their entire life could be destroyed by saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

No one wants to go through that.

We prefer to have our voice heard through the ballot box.

Though that is rapidly being undermined by the rampant cheating by Democrats.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 02, 2026 05:38 PM (s2iZv)

88 Talarico may be the usual ruse, force Rs to spend time, money and energy in a solid R state, and leave no resources to deal with NC, MI or Susan Collins situation. But I hope we are smarter than that.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:38 PM (AKptf)

89 The cheat is on!

It will so obvious as a blind person can hear it.

Nothing will happen to the cheaters.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 02, 2026 05:38 PM (W2Pud)

90 Know the op when you see it. It’s the same op as every election: Leftwing media pile-ons about massive blew waves like Kamala sucking off papa Smurf.

I mean...sometimes it's true? 2018 and 2020 weren't so great.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (4agYt)

91 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.

She was first officer. The PIC was a 55 year old guy.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (CZuvr)

92 Don't be blaming the pilot yet.

Unlike the male airline pilot who, by constantly stomping the rudder pedals, actually caused the whole vertical tail to snap off.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (2GVsD)

93 76 And I'm not sure how things will go tomorrow and I don't want to spread out my supply of Canadian beer and hopium.

But, I'll do something nobody has probably ever done at this site. At least for a decade. Here's a TIME MAGAZINE article.

How Nicki Minaj Went MAGA

The best-selling female rapper in history has just addressed the World Liberty Forum, a crypto confab hosted by Trump’s sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. She pauses to take in the decor, asking about portraits of Trump and of Mar-a-Lago’s original owner, Marjorie Merriweather Post. Admiring The Visionary, she remarks that Trump has a unique aura. “It’s the same way Marilyn Monroe represents a vibe,” she says. “Donald Trump is his own vibe.”

So is Minaj. She is wearing a shiny gold satin jacket, diamonds as big as the Ritz, and fluffy high heels. At 43, she is one of the defining pop-rap figures of the era, with more than 130 Billboard Hot 100 entries, more than 20 BET Awards, tens of billions of global streams, and a social media reach exceeding 200 million followers. Yet her turn from provocative, path-breaking artist to Trump acolyte has made her a pariah to some in the music industry and surprised her fan base

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (Sco7b)

94 Nothing happens until you Show Up.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (2Ez/1)

95 Jennifer that is information I didn't need

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)

96 I remember the skew in the polls watching Florida 10-20 years ago as it shifted from purple to red.

Every year, the Republicans gained in net voter registrations, and eventually surpassed the number of registered Democrats.

Yet I would still see polls actually weighted something like 39/35 Democrats over Republicans.

When a pollster skews against the known actual weighting, they are not attempting to accurately predict the election results, and therefore must have some OTHER goal.

The pollsters frequently play this game, and it has gotten so bad that they work very hard NOT to publish their cross-tabs.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (HlyYF)

97 Talarico may be the usual ruse, force Rs to spend time, money and energy in a solid R state, and leave no resources to deal with NC, MI or Susan Collins situation. But I hope we are smarter than that.
Posted by: runner at November 02, 2026 05:38 PM (AKptf)

Unlike the Dems neither the RNC and Texas Republicans are flat broke.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (uhVAy)

98 78 Here the time magazine link

https://tinyurl.com/3nct8vhh
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 03:42 PM (Sco7b)

Said so few of us ever.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (Sco7b)

99 re 74: so paxton wins by five. updates to be covered in the gnational mosquito and weekend arsewipe

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (CWTWj)

100 I'll repeat what I said this morning:

There is no historical basis for a state that went 10%+ for the President to swing 5% to the other party in the midterm.
None.
Not even Obamamania.
Not even Watergate.

But there is historical precedent for a President to expand his party in the House and Senate--defying historical trends:
W in 2002.

And he did it almost all in states he'd won in 2000.

Say, where has Trump been holding rally after rally after rally?

While Trump is some 20-30% lower over-all approval than W had, he has a 5-7% higher intra-party approval than W did at that time.

Why oh why did Trump keep going to red states?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (3cUTc)

101 81 > My cell phone lists the caller name and if it is not a person, says "Probably Spam"

I'm getting at least five, "Probably Spam" calls a day.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:37 PM (mkw2N)

My phone has blown up this election... crap from all sides and all the stupid initiatives on the ballot.

There are 40 or so texts just from the last 2 days... and was even getting phone calls after dinner last night... yeah... political calls on a Sunday night.

Posted by: Grand Duchy of Fenwick at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (mP0Kj)

102 >>>How many people refuse to talk to pollsters because they ~~don't want to be "outed" as a conservative~~ want to be left the f alone and don't like being acosted by liars and hoors?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (DVxMB)

103 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 05:36 PM (w6EFb)

Here's another Right commenter saying otherwise
MattWalshBlog/status/2117347950498374062

Posted by: 88C+u at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (88C+u)

104
Oh, so she was the co-pilot, then. I saw the dashcam video of the crash. Just a barely visible blur of a streak, then a fireball, then a crater.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (w6EFb)

105 Our boffins are also predicting a 100% chance that nothing happens after you Show Up, either.

Posted by: YD Public Policy Polling, the Gold Standard in Desultory Folderol at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (BI5O2)

106 What has that ungrateful loaf said?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (2GVsD)

107 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
.......

PSA #2: You might want to postpone that European vacation.

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2026 05:41 PM (UjdFS)

108 Sorry....willowed hopium from Canada.

102 And here's my last hopium infusion for you all.

2024 RNC - Amber Rose 5:17 minutes
Some of the comments are amazing.
Blexit may be a thing.

If the democrats are losing the blacks, tough times ahead.
https://tinyurl.com/5c2cxrf9

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:41 PM (Sco7b)

109 Mail guy just got here, and its dark outside

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2026 05:41 PM (Ia/+0)

110 Know the op when you see it. It’s the same op as every election: Leftwing media pile-ons about massive blew waves like Kamala sucking off papa Smurf.

I mean...sometimes it's true? 2018 and 2020 weren't so great.
-
2020 had nothing to do with voters.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 02, 2026 05:42 PM (vSvIl)

111 The current copium out of TX, since the Dems got their asses handed to them in early voting, is that there are some 675k new voters who didn't vote in 2024.

And that they are younger and Hispanic.

See, you're supposed to think most of those are D votes and even more will show up tomorrow.

Or, you know, it's bullshit by idiots over 1,000 miles from Texas.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:43 PM (3cUTc)

112 All that matters is they controlled narrative for 90 days.

If Republicans win more than expected, then in a few days they just manufacture the next bs for us to try and prove is lies and for their side to come troll us about, which gets admitted in a year of five was bs all along.

Once seen, the pattern should never be unseen.

Posted by: ... at November 02, 2026 05:43 PM (vE0+H)

113 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.

She was first officer. The PIC was a 55 year old guy.
Posted by: Halfhand
......

She was giving him a BJ?

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2026 05:43 PM (UjdFS)

114 Washington Interscholastic Activities Association (WIAA) says, "no more than approximately 10 transgender student-athletes participate across Washington each year"

Ari Hoffman says, "I know that number is not accurate because I have covered close to 30 stories of boys stealing awards, scholarships, and championships from girls"

WIAA when confronted by Ari, "We acknowledge that there are likely others we are not aware of. The WIAA does not maintain a definitive count of participating transgender student-athletes, as transgender students are not identified by state law; therefore, no defined quantities exist."

And yet you put the statement out there and leftist reporters eagerly repeated your lie.

http://tiny.cc/qa1d101

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:43 PM (mkw2N)

115 This may be the first reference to Drudge I've seen in nearly two decades.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (bX16E)

116 I don't like answering polls because I spend way too much time overthinking the questions and trying to figure out how they are going to twist my answer from strong opposition to support for whatever they are asking about.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (vJrRc)

117 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.

She was first officer. The PIC was a 55 year old guy.
Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (CZuvr)

From the peeps I visit for plane info, they were trying to get above the storm that was threatening icing then started getting precipitation. If that overloaded and started icing, the plane might stall and fall out of the sky like a brick. It did come down like a lawn dart.

Very early days though.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (uhVAy)

118 Republicans will keep the house and the Senate.

And then adjourn. And grift. But mostly grift.

Posted by: Crusader at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (TN0g+)

119 In flight break-up of a jet due to weather is not unheard of.

That is why they now have color weather radars in the planes.

But if the storm clouds and rain are intense enough, it may absorb all the radar beams and present an 'opening' in the storm to fly through.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (2GVsD)

120 102 >>>How many people refuse to talk to pollsters because they don't want to be "outed" as a conservative want to be left the f alone and don't like being acosted by liars and hoors?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (DVxMB)

They got your phone number, and your name, and you have NOT expectation of legal privacy.

If you don't think your poll answers are going into a database... uh... I gotz this really nice bridge for sale...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2026 05:45 PM (mP0Kj)

121 Here's the Obligatory James Madison post about polls:

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/411870.php

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 02, 2026 05:45 PM (2Ez/1)

122 She was giving him a BJ?

Airplane! was the inflight movie?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:45 PM (2GVsD)

123 Don't the girls all get prettier at closing time
Don't they all begin to look like movie stars
Don't the girls all get prettier at closing time
When the change starts takin' place
It puts a glow on every face
Of the fallen angels of the backstreet bars

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 02, 2026 05:45 PM (xHEjv)

124 I have no idea what is going to happen tomorrow. I can pray for the outcome I want. I will do my part and vote for the outcome I want tomorrow (we do not have early voting in Alabama) while I trust in God’s plan.

Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

125 From the peeps I visit for plane info, they were trying to get above the storm that was threatening icing then started getting precipitation

I was looking at the weather radar overlayed with the ADS-B track. They were threading the needle between storm cells and then they made a right turn straight into a red cell and that's where everything went wrong. The ATC audio was heart-breaking.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (CZuvr)

126 118 Republicans will keep the house and the Senate.

And then adjourn. And grift. But mostly grift.
Posted by: Crusader at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (TN0g+)

I'm expecting this, two more years of "Gais we don't have 60 votes send us more money to fight the DSA Takeover!"

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (lLeLE)

127 I doubt polls have ever been very reliable in decades. Who has land lines at this point to really have a true poll?

Sure,sure I've had a couple of random text political ads I quickly block. I also don't answer the door to guys with a tablet in their hands as I can see the dweebs with my phone and can't be bothered.

Polls have gone the way of reading the news on paper daily, along with the propaganda they spread since I was in college. They are meaningless in my obviously biased and pompous, flatulent opinion.

If anyone but a raging lesbo or trans or antifa, blind to their own bias, think polls are important then, well, scream at the sky. You are dumb-dumbs to start with and I can't hear you!

While I haven't watched FOX since 2012, I hesitate to read (I also don't have X) and believe anything horny Ed Henry tells me after his sordid past. yug.

Maybe all is forgiven and he's found Jesus, and yay for him.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (hzuYO)

128 Washington Interscholastic Activities Association (WIAA) says, "no more than approximately 10 transgender student-athletes participate across Washington each year"

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:43 PM (mkw2N)

In my day if there were 10 cheaters and sex perverts accosting women athletes in their locker rooms there would be a mob with torches forming up and the police and all authorities digging them out.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (uhVAy)

129 And I found this link to Village Voice's guide to the conservative blogosphere.

Again Our stupidity to evil ratio was the highest. Which was surprising considering no one here was blunt about Islam. But I remember it was frowned upon Mooch jokes.

https://tinyurl.com/3b962rer

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (Sco7b)

130 OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
1h
2026 Ohio Governor (Rounded)

🔴 Vivek Ramaswamy: 48%
🔵 Amy Acton: 48%
--
Impossible.
Erick Erickson swore--and he cannot tell a lie because he is a Christian--that all good Republicans would vote for Acton over that so terribly offensive ad that called Amy a liar.

LOL he's so desperate for a moral victory to salve his fat ego.

He's given up attacking Paxton and now concedes he'll likely win.
After he spent the last 3 months swearing he was going to lose in a landslide.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (3cUTc)

131 Ok, my final prediction, I don't expect it to be a terrible day for the republicans but also nothing great to cheer about either.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (n5tGW)

132 82 Democrat ads in KY are screaming about how redistricting is trying to 'divide' them.
Posted by: Anna Puma

I have some home videos of me in KY. With trans-children. Slippery fun for everyone.

Posted by: James Talarico at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (4agYt)

133 SO

The village voice article from 2008 as a guide to the conservative blogosphere.

Our stupid to evil ratio was only 99-1. But as I remember, it was kind of frowned on to make fun of Mooch. I'd love a vv update. I'd like to think just myself could push our evil ratio up a point.

ACE OF SPADES (Ace of Spades HQ; ace.mu.nu)

ORIENTATION: Fratboytarian

TONE: Retarded

FUN FACT: Scrupulously conceals his true identity, but accepted the Blogger of the Year award from 2008 Conservative Political Action Conference in person, looking rather less butch than advertised. Recently celebrated in Time magazine’s “First Annual Blog Index” as the “conservative/libertarian answer to the Daily Kos,” with sample quote about how “large segments of the black population” are anti-Semitic.

CANDIDATE: Undeclared

STUPID/EVIL RATIO: 99/1

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (Sco7b)

134 Maybe all is forgiven and he's found Jesus, and yay for him.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (hzuYO)

I didn't even know Jesus was lost, I'm so out of touch.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (uhVAy)

135 I received 2 texts from Dem candidates begging for last day donations:

King Roy Cooper and that Alaska woman. They each wanted a dollar.

Posted by: mrp at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (rj6Yv)

136 Senor Jesus maybe lost?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (2GVsD)

137 > They were threading the needle between storm cells and then they made a right turn straight into a red cell and that's where everything went wrong.

Hmm, I wonder what happened there? Was that simply a blunder? Or was something else happening and they thought that was their best option?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (mkw2N)

138 134 Maybe all is forgiven and he's found Jesus, and yay for him.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:46 PM (hzuYO)

I didn't even know Jesus was lost, I'm so out of touch.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (uhVAy)

Well... he did wander in the Desert a bit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2026 05:49 PM (mP0Kj)

139 re 118: most of them will do that anyway. heck, i still get send me money emails from a kamala pac

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2026 05:49 PM (CWTWj)

140 He's given up attacking Paxton and now concedes he'll likely win.
After he spent the last 3 months swearing he was going to lose in a landslide.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:47 PM (3cUTc)

So he's covered, having predicted both sides winning.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:49 PM (uhVAy)

141
I didn't even know Jesus was lost, I'm so out of touch.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (uhVAy)

********
Jesus has never been lost, but Ed Henry has seemed to be in the past. He gives me the creeps.

Good one!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (hzuYO)

142 LearJet 60, with its fuel and passenger load what would its max altitude be?

Sometimes you can't fly above a storm, you must fly around.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (2GVsD)

143 118 Republicans will keep the house and the Senate.

And then adjourn. And grift. But mostly grift.
Posted by: Crusader

The best part is we can do the same thing if we lose! It's brilliant!

Posted by: GOPe at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (4agYt)

144 In 2008 my CANDIDATE was Charon/Palin. No apologies from me.

Posted by: 88C+u at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (88C+u)

145 I posted this earlier , but if the Republicans hold both houses the propaganda ministers will be as fun to watch as in 2016 and 2024.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (cfGMy)

146 120 102 >>>How many people refuse to talk to pollsters because they don't want to be "outed" as a conservative want to be left the f alone and don't like being acosted by liars and hoors?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:40 PM (DVxMB)

I was at a dot-Indian company in Columbus Ohio. An HR lady and I kind of found out we were both conservatives.

That should NOT have been like a big bad secret we shared between us.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (Sco7b)

147 I think the Bushes will do just enough to elect the weirdo

Posted by: Accomack at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (TnuFK)

148 They got your phone number, and your name, and you have NOT expectation of legal privacy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2026 05:45 PM (mP0Kj)

They should have no expectation of basic human decency.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (DVxMB)

149 I posted this earlier , but if the Republicans hold both houses the propaganda ministers will be as fun to watch as in 2016 and 2024.

They may OD on their meds to cope with their breakdowns.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (2GVsD)

150 >>@TheJusticeDept
·
1h
>>🚨🗳️ Justice Department announces charges involving 63 individuals, INCLUDING FOUR ILLEGAL ALIENS, in connection with illegal voting, fraudulent voter registration, and related election crimes across the country.

>>“Today’s announcement marks the largest surge of voter-fraud arrests since @POTUS
Trump returned to office,” said @AGToddBlanche

>> “These foreign nationals allegedly took advantage of the trust of the American people and flouted the laws that govern our nation’s elections. This Department of Justice will continue investigating and prosecuting voter fraud to restore confidence in our electoral system.”

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (viF8m)

151 Voted today. First time early voter.
Couldn't find me in the system - bastige tried to add one year to my dob. I'm old enough - don't need that kind of help.

Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (2bFN5)

152 They were threading the needle between storm cells and then they made a right turn straight into a red cell and that's where everything went wrong.

Hmm, I wonder what happened there? Was that simply a blunder? Or was something else happening and they thought that was their best option?
Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM (mkw2N)

They might not have had equipment that really showed active cells. Watched a video a few months ago when they were just setting up the system for the big boys and flew right into one and got pancaked into the ground when landing in Texas.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (uhVAy)

153 I was tracking the early vote party registrations in a few of the battleground states and Ds were down significantly in mail in ballots and early votes compared to 2022

Is that pattern still continuing?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (sKqQm)

154 144 In 2008 my CANDIDATE was Charon/Palin. No apologies from me.
Posted by: 88C+u at November 02, 2026 05:50 PM (88C+u)

Wow, and you said it when McCain's funeral is STILL going on?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (mP0Kj)

155 Hmm, I wonder what happened there? Was that simply a blunder? Or was something else happening and they thought that was their best option?

Hard to say. I did also hear that she complained about Miami approach not vectoring them away from the storm.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (CZuvr)

156 I think the polls are overstating Dem support, but I still think this is going to be a rough election cycle for us.

Some of the predictions like we actually gain seats just seems bat shit crazy. If we just keep the Senate, I'll be parting like Trump getting reelected.

Posted by: Sharpie at November 02, 2026 05:52 PM (GOeuO)

157 TONE: Retarded

STUPID/EVIL RATIO: 99/1

We've claimed and embraced being Morons. That's our word. Only our trolls are retarded in tone, though.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (4agYt)

158 I posted this earlier , but if the Republicans hold both houses the propaganda ministers will be as fun to watch as in 2016 and 2024.

They may OD on their meds to cope with their breakdowns.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (2GVsD)
======

The shockwave will circle the globe.

Posted by: mrp at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (rj6Yv)

159 I live in KY.

I've seen zero ads for anyone.

*checks ad blocker*

Oh..... nevermind.
------
Seriously.... the only places in KY where a race is "contested" is where horses, Bourbon, tobacco, or the military is s on the table.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (RORbl)

160 Hmm, I wonder what happened there? Was that simply a blunder? Or was something else happening and they thought that was their best option?

Posted by: bonhomme
---

Wasn't she texting her boyfriend?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (xHEjv)

161 The New York Times admits that Republicans are 30% less likely to respond to polls at all.
__________________________

That 30% is a made-up number. Because, the only way to establish that % is via a poll.

(PS: I was responsible for at six hang-ups on national, and state polls. And, if I ever find the bastard that gave them my number, they're toast)

Posted by: Orson at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (dIske)

162 DJT's heroic October campaign schedule will be one for the history books.

Posted by: mrp at November 02, 2026 05:54 PM (rj6Yv)

163 Been getting that Spam call a few times a day.

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)

164 I was at a dot-Indian company in Columbus Ohio. An HR lady and I kind of found out we were both conservatives.

That should NOT have been like a big bad secret we shared between us.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:51 PM (Sco7b)

And yet, it is so frequent. Finding a fellow conservative among your cow workers is always a joy!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 02, 2026 05:54 PM (zYpTz)

165 >> “These foreign nationals allegedly took advantage of the trust of the American people and flouted the laws that govern our nation’s elections. This Department of Justice will continue investigating and prosecuting voter fraud to restore confidence in our electoral system.”

Posted by: JackStraw
---

Investigate that bitch family down in Texas.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 02, 2026 05:54 PM (xHEjv)

166 157 TONE: Retarded

STUPID/EVIL RATIO: 99/1

We've claimed and embraced being Morons. That's our word. Only our trolls are retarded in tone, though.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (4agYt)

I'm still shocked our evil ratio wasn't higher.
I have to be worth a point.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:55 PM (Sco7b)

167 Eh. When pollsters call or text me, I have one of two responses:

1. I hang up (or type STOP).
2. I lie about everything.

fuck pollsters.

Posted by: Pooklord at November 02, 2026 05:55 PM (9MAOs)

168 I dont understand thought the idea that its a win to understate republican support by not answering pollsters.

It really makes races hard for GOP candidates if they are bombarded with the narrative they are losing big. Fundraising dries up. Volunteers are nowhere to be found, etc.

I'd rather go in with a pretend lead than a pretend loss.

Posted by: Sharpie at November 02, 2026 05:56 PM (GOeuO)

169 Hmm, I wonder what happened there? Was that simply a blunder? Or was something else happening and they thought that was their best option?
-----

I think as a society we fly too much. No, seriously. We jump on planes likes its the same as jumping in an Uber or jumping into our car. Its not.

I think they were in too big of a hurry to "stay the course" and probably should have re-considered their route in-flight. It was a Lear, and the pilot wasn't a professional.

Posted by: Crusader at November 02, 2026 05:56 PM (TN0g+)

170 The Mental Mongolian's meltdown tomorrow if the Rs hold both houses...

Someone will probably wish they had kept her in lock-up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:56 PM (2GVsD)

171 117 PSA: Don't fly in a plane with a 20 year-old girl pilot.

She was first officer. The PIC was a 55 year old guy.
Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 05:39 PM (CZuvr)

From the peeps I visit for plane info, they were trying to get above the storm that was threatening icing then started getting precipitation. If that overloaded and started icing, the plane might stall and fall out of the sky like a brick. It did come down like a lawn dart.

Very early days though.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:44 PM (uhVAy)

******
They had turbulence then icing, so I read. Were advised to go higher above the small cell they flew into. After avoiding the big one.

It was assumed, as it is early, the turbulence and overspeeding had them then lose the horizontal stabilizer and it was a done deal at this point. And/or if the wing de-icer thingie was broken. However, pilot comments I read said it was done once they lost the horizontal stabilizer, which I would not recognize if it arrived and rang my doorbell.

It was fast and over minutes from a chart I saw with the radar. The pilots knew 90 seconds prior to death. Which seems a short period of time until you are living in terror

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:57 PM (hzuYO)

172 Our final prediction is in.

In your particular hamlet, there will be a number of desperate, sweaty crooks and pederasts who will win this election, and feather their squalid little nests with your pilfered money for the duration of their terms.

They will win re-election, and soak their beaks once again, and then retch up your endless largesse into the squalling beaks of their ravenous young, for whom you will also dutifully vote, well into your senescence.

We hereby secure our sterling reputation as America's most accurate polling firm. Have a great couple of years!

We'll see you soon.

Posted by: YD Public Policy Polling, the Gold Standard in Desultory Folderol at November 02, 2026 05:57 PM (BI5O2)

173 I dont understand thought the idea that its a win to understate republican support by not answering pollsters.

It really makes races hard for GOP candidates if they are bombarded with the narrative they are losing big. Fundraising dries up. Volunteers are nowhere to be found, etc.

I'd rather go in with a pretend lead than a pretend loss.
Posted by: Sharpie at November 02, 2026 05:56 PM (GOeuO)

What makes you think they would tell anyone if we did answer them? Their innate honesty? The fact that they do adjust the raw numbers based on their ideas of what people should vote for shows their duplicity.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 05:58 PM (uhVAy)

174 Regarding the Learjet crash...

I saw some discussions about the "coffin corner" in jet navigation/piloting.

I know what it is... basically... thoughts?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 02, 2026 05:58 PM (RORbl)

175 The mainstream media are all a bunch of scumbags. Pollsters paid by the media are also a bunch of scumbags.

Who want to talk to scumbags?

Posted by: No Name Today at November 02, 2026 05:58 PM (8mulE)

176 1h
>>🚨🗳️ Justice Department announces charges involving 63 individuals, INCLUDING FOUR ILLEGAL ALIENS, in connection with illegal voting, fraudulent voter registration, and related election crimes across the country.
--
I like the headline blasted by the AP that 40% of those on the DOJ list they gave to CA were not registered to vote.

Oh, so that means 60% WERE registered?

And, that 40% number is from a leftie activist group that does not have the full DOJ spreadsheet, that was several columns past the hard copy they gave to CA.

I still think the funniest part of this is, that CA refused to give the DOJ their list.
So the DOJ bought it. Bc CA will sell it to anyone.
And the DOJ won't say who they bought it from.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2026 05:58 PM (3cUTc)

177 Even Al Franken - black Skeletor to Carville - had on Abdul to goose numbers with black voters.

When you're on MSNow, begging for black votes in MICHIGAN with 150% turnout in Detroit. Internals must be bad.

And again, I watch Detroit tv. The ads about Abdul have been brutal.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 05:59 PM (Sco7b)

178 Coffin corner is where max altitude and speed merge with lift and stall speed to kill you.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:59 PM (2GVsD)

179 https://tinyurl.com/3fxfbvun

Hey Darrell Harris! Your opponents shenanigans made Libs of TikTok!

Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (ZdaMQ)

180 I hang up on pollsters but maybe I should have been responding.

Yes I'm a biracial, bilingual. bisexual, bipolar out and proud Democrat. Who am I voting for in the Senate election? Obama Bin Laden. What?!? He's not running. Oh yes sorry I mean Jim Jones.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (sKqQm)

181 I was at a dot-Indian company in Columbus Ohio. An HR lady and I kind of found out we were both conservatives.

That should NOT have been like a big bad secret we shared between us.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026
*
And yet, it is so frequent. Finding a fellow conservative among your cow workers is always a joy!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 02, 2026

***
At the university where I worked for so many years, I knew exactly one faculty member who was a Trumpist and conservative. And she was Russian! She had lived under socialism, communism, and now capitalism, and saw all three for what they were and are.

Didn't hurt that she was sort of MILFy, too. Married, unfortunately . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (56Qyq)

182 You gotta love all the people who say "men are the only one who ever take responsibility for their own actions" and then say "oh it must have been the woman's fault" the instant they hear a woman was anywhere near a disaster.

:/

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (vJrRc)

183 Have to catch up here-

Bianca got-em some-a nice-a melonies

and, what plane crash?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (vzuC7)

184 Say what you will about California's efficiency, but TPTB in Sacramento have already judge-shopped to find a few who will tell me that my vote was wrong.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (0FQ54)

185 How many small plane crashes are due to fricking weather?

In my (dubious) memory, it certainly seems to be the majority.

I have watched storms sweep across the radar or satellite views for decades related to my job.

IMO, most of the time, just waiting four hours would significantly change your odds of encountering dangerous storm conditions.

Playing russian roulette to save four hours of your time (and perhaps your loved ones' time) seems like an exceedingly poor risk assessment to me.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2026 06:01 PM (HlyYF)

186 What makes you think they would tell anyone if we did answer them? Their innate honesty? The fact that they do adjust the raw numbers based on their ideas of what people should vote for shows their duplicity.
Posted by: Oldcat

==

It's two different points. I think pollsters aggressively model to favor Democrats, but making their job easier for them seems counterproductive.

Even internal campaigns like to have accurate polling, Ive done that type of work for Republican candidates.

You tell someone they are losing by big numbers, it's very demoralizing.

Posted by: Sharpie at November 02, 2026 06:02 PM (GOeuO)

187 Wasn't she texting her boyfriend?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 02, 2026 05:53 PM (xHEjv)
*************
Yes. Apparently at the same time she was telling ATC there was ice on the wings (-57 degrees F) and no control,plummeting to the ground after being told to fly higher and they couldn't. BF got texts saying the same.

The 55yr old pilot was trying but it was hopeless as the plane was falling apart. I read a an estimate of the fall at 600mph or .9 Mach. This lear could maybe handle .8 Mach. I have no idea as I haven't had learing about Lear's and am only typing what I leared.

I read this but have no idea what I am talking about. I am basically the Golden Retriever at the keyboard who reads fast and remembers facts. But have not made anything up, please keep that in mind. It was simply horrific and a miracle no one was injured or died on the ground.

However, I forget stuff for the grocery list, but I can regurge weird stuff briefly like Rain Man.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 06:04 PM (hzuYO)

188 >>>How many small plane crashes are due to fricking weather?

Pilot error.
--Airplane manufacturers

Posted by: No Name Today at November 02, 2026 06:04 PM (8mulE)

189 and, what plane crash?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Lear Jet in Florida. Hit the ground point first and left a small crater next to a trailer park.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 02, 2026 06:04 PM (vJrRc)

190 I just wanted to remind all of you if Republicans keep both Houses he is going to send me a check for $5K.

So get out there and do it for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (viF8m)

191 Just saw some numbers for early voting here in Texas on the evening news. democrats are a little over 25,000 votes ahead in early voting in the state. If those numbers are accurate talerico is going to get his a$$ kicked tomorrow.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (I43vL)

192 Yes I'm a biracial, bilingual. bisexual, bipolar out and proud Democrat. Who am I voting for in the Senate election? Obama Bin Laden. What?!? He's not running. Oh yes sorry I mean Jim Jones.
Posted by: 18-1
--------
You left out bifocal, bifurcating, and bionic.

Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (2bFN5)

193 If Dems get 54 seat and Grassley dies, that’s 55.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 02, 2026 05:30 PM (4agYt)

Grassley has said that if he were to die in office, he wants a Republican governor to appoint his replacement. I have no idea how close the polls for that are, our local radio station is making bank from the anti-Lahn ads and this is the area Lahn grew up in.

Posted by: pookysgirl, Hawkeye for life at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (Wt5PA)

194 33 SO

The village voice article from 2008 as a guide to the conservative blogosphere.

Our stupid to evil ratio was only 99-1. But as I remember, it was kind of frowned on to make fun of Mooch. I'd love a vv update. I'd like to think just myself could push our evil ratio up a point.

ACE OF SPADES (Ace of Spades HQ; ace.mu.nu)

ORIENTATION: Fratboytarian

TONE: Retarded

FUN FACT: Scrupulously conceals his true identity, but accepted the Blogger of the Year award from 2008 Conservative Political Action Conference in person, looking rather less butch than advertised. Recently celebrated in Time magazine’s “First Annual Blog Index” as the “conservative/libertarian answer to the Daily Kos,” with sample quote about how “large segments of the black population” are anti-Semitic.

CANDIDATE: Undeclared

STUPID/EVIL RATIO: 99/1
Posted by: Stateless - at November 02, 2026 05:48 PM

+++

You know that was 18 years ago, right?

Posted by: Person with a calendar at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (2Ez/1)

195 At the university where I worked for so many years, I knew exactly one faculty member who was a Trumpist and conservative. And she was Russian! She had lived under socialism, communism, and now capitalism, and saw all three for what they were and are.

Didn't hurt that she was sort of MILFy, too. Married, unfortunately . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM (56Qyq)

YET 40+ percent of the vote.
Quiet. JUst wanted to be left alone.

I'm going to play games soon.
I hope I infused a few of you with hopium.

But again. President Trump is in charge. 2.0 is in war mood. Considering everything, as much as I loved Reagan, he may be the greatest US President in my life.

Votes are still out on Carter. PBS says number one.

I hope 2028 is Vance / Trump

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (Sco7b)

196 Bers

Did you hear about the influencer named Dancing Moto who likes to prance and dance in front of his crotch rocket in Hello Kitty PJs and wearing a helmet?

He decided to try and outrun Georgia State Police in the rain while wearing nothing but street clothes. He thought he was some kind of rally racer by sticking his knee out while barely leaning the bike.

Chase ended when he accidentally steered into a GSP cruiser and went tumbling on asphalt before having a GSP SUV park its engine over him.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (2GVsD)

197 What factors would constitute a "coffin corner" for an automobile? Speed, traction, visibility, presence of other vehicles and their speed and traction?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (56Qyq)

198 I'm sitting right here!

Posted by: Bicameral at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (2Ez/1)

199 182 You gotta love all the people who say "men are the only one who ever take responsibility for their own actions" and then say "oh it must have been the woman's fault" the instant they hear a woman was anywhere near a disaster.

:/
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 02, 2026 06:00 PM

Especially when this girl was doing calculations in her head hoping for a miracle to the bitter end.

Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

200 I think the Bushes will do just enough to elect the weirdo

I think if they had enough pull to do that, Cornyn would have won the primary.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2026 06:07 PM (vTZFs)

201 However, pilot comments I read said it was done once they lost the horizontal stabilizer, which I would not recognize if it arrived and rang my doorbell.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 05:57 PM (hzuYO)

The "horizontal stabilizers" are the small winglike panels at the tail end. The one that sticks up is the vertical stabilizer. All of them have adjustable surfaces for controlling the craft. I'm less sure they are really missing rather than just not brought out in the few frames between leaving the overcast and hitting the ground. On some clips it is hard to see even the wings and the pilots don't seem to comment on their plane coming apart as they are dropping.

I saw a show of a British archaeology team excavating a WWII spitfire plane that had crashed in a French field early in the war. It also came straight down and the entire 30 some foot long plane's body was compressed into a stack something like 6-8 foot tall. They even found a small chain off the pilot's jacket and gave it to the fellow's brother.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 06:07 PM (uhVAy)

202 Pollsters can pay me....and then I will lie to them.

Posted by: torabora at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (Wt1Rs)

203 +2R Senate +5-8R House

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (AI08i)

204 Elf-Sayed.

Just sit with that for a minute. I forget where I saw it, probably Twitchy, which doesn't help me narrow down who said it. But damn, if it doesn't fit the Sharia Shrimp.

Posted by: SciVo at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (ke3zm)

205 and then the riots

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (AI08i)

206 Damn, I looked up the crash. It was like a missile. I heard of burial at sea, but this is burial in asphalt. Yeah, nothing to find here, just fill the big hole.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (vzuC7)

207 Especially when this girl was doing calculations in her head hoping for a miracle to the bitter end.
Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

She seemed to be communicating rationally up to the end to me.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (uhVAy)

208 178 Coffin corner is where max altitude and speed merge with lift and stall speed to kill you.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 05:59 PM (2GVsD)

********
Read about this as well last night.

And many, many discussions of the blurry photo of the jet a few feet before impact. Many noting the horizontal stabilizer was missing (possible wing tip and entire wing on one side). No idea as these were comments, some from supposed pilots.

I saw a little white car that looked directly below impact and apparently they lived as no injuries or deaths on the ground reported. Which is a miracle.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 02, 2026 06:09 PM (hzuYO)

209 toby928, right on !!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2026 06:09 PM (8Uo7a)

210 *I think the Bushes will do just enough to elect the weirdo*

Keep out da Bushes!

Posted by: J. Jackson at November 02, 2026 06:09 PM (2Ez/1)

211 197 What factors would constitute a "coffin corner" for an automobile? Speed, traction, visibility, presence of other vehicles and their speed and traction?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM

Not sure there is an apt analogy for cars, since you cannot fall out of the sky in a car.

OTOH, if you hit black ice at a high rate of speed, there is a chance that nothing the driver does from that point controls the actual end state of the car.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2026 06:09 PM (HlyYF)

212 You know that was 18 years ago, right?
Posted by: Person with a calendar at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM (2Ez/1)

Yes.

But for the memories.

And c'mon.
I'm still shocked the evil ratio was so low. People here spoke truth.

Acknowledging reality, difficult as it is, is unpleasant to some.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 06:09 PM (Sco7b)

213 It doesn't really sound like the young (20) female pilot is particularly at fault here. Weather, the bad decision to travel into it, icing and resulting inability to control the aircraft sounds like it will account for the crash.

But I do think, all things being equal, most people do not want to board a civilian aircraft and see a 20-year-old in the cockpit in any capacity. Experience and maturity are likely big advantages in emergency situations in particular.

Posted by: but what do I know at November 02, 2026 06:10 PM (NGJZx)

214 The video clips I've seen, I can hardly make anything out of the plane, it's just a blur so fast it was coming down.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 06:10 PM (w6EFb)

215 Not sure there is an apt analogy for cars, since you cannot fall out of the sky in a car.

OTOH, if you hit black ice at a high rate of speed, there is a chance that nothing the driver does from that point controls the actual end state of the car.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2026

***
That's kind of what I was thinking of -- loss of traction.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:10 PM (56Qyq)

216 Not sure there is an apt analogy for cars, since you cannot fall out of the sky in a car.

——

Elon is changing this for us!

Posted by: Piper at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (ZdaMQ)

217 >>OTOH, if you hit black ice at a high rate of speed, there is a chance that nothing the driver does from that point controls the actual end state of the car.

I'm familiar with this one.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (viF8m)

218 Nattering nabobs of negativism.

Posted by: Zombie Spiro Agnew at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (Wt1Rs)

219 Gracious living with Marth Stewart.

Martha Stewart apologizes for dressing up as homeless person for Halloween

https://tinyurl.com/3bcetzhw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent [/] at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (ndZc7)

220 OldCat

A puddle jumper passenger turboprop flying in Texas suffered in-flight break up during descent because the T-tail ripped away. Why did the T-tail rip away?

Just prior to the day of the accident, the deicer boots on the tail were replaced. But the rivets on the underside of one deicer boot were not reinstalled. After several flights the boot broke away during decent. Plane started nosing for the ground. Then the tail ripped away. Leaving just a small hole in a field.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (2GVsD)

221 Mi my i doubt any arrests in California will mean anything. Try Minnesota

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (Ia/+0)

222 I'd rather go in with a pretend lead than a pretend loss.

Posted by: Sharpie at November 02, 2026 05:56 PM (GOeuO)

Shall we play a game?

Posted by: W.O.P.R. at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (RDiUV)

223 He thought he was some kind of rally racer by sticking his knee out while barely leaning the bike.

That's actually a good way to handle the wet road.

Not to suggest that he wasn't still an idiot.

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM (AI08i)

224 "...since you cannot fall out of the sky in a car."

Have you heard what that Elon Musk guy has been up to lately?

Posted by: Umm... at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (2Ez/1)

225 Nothin so bracing as hitting black ice with a 30ft trailer filled with five horses in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (8Uo7a)

226
I would not be too keen on getting on a plane with a 20 yr old period, XX or XY at the controls, or even the co-pilot.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (w6EFb)

227 LearJet 60, with its fuel and passenger load what would its max altitude be?

Sometimes you can't fly above a storm, you must fly around.
Posted by: Anna Puma

From Brave:

The Learjet 60 has a maximum certified service ceiling of 51,000 feet, regardless of its fuel or passenger load.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (NnhvP)

228 The Mental Mongolian's meltdown tomorrow if the Rs hold both houses...

Someone will probably wish they had kept her in lock-up.
Posted by: Anna Puma

She won't be alone.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (8B4gm)

229 Not sure there is an apt analogy for cars, since you cannot fall out of the sky in a car.

——

Elon is changing this for us!
Posted by: Piper

I look forward to the inevitable jurisdictional fights between NTSB and NHTSA.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (vJrRc)

230 High speed + loss of traction (black ice) + fixed or moving obstacle you hit head on = Coffin Corner.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2026 06:12 PM (56Qyq)

231 You know that was 18 years ago, right?

Posted by: Person with a calendar at November 02, 2026 06:05 PM

Yes.

And after all of his Gainzzzz, I am confident that Ace will look much more butch the next time he accepts an award in person!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (HlyYF)

232 I've never been polled. I'm gray.

Posted by: gp at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (Jr5Lq)

233 I hope 2028 is Vance / Trump

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (Sco7b)

Donald Jr.? God no!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (k5CNB)

234 A puddle jumper passenger turboprop flying in Texas suffered in-flight break up during descent because the T-tail ripped away. Why did the T-tail rip away?

Just prior to the day of the accident, the deicer boots on the tail were replaced. But the rivets on the underside of one deicer boot were not reinstalled. After several flights the boot broke away during decent. Plane started nosing for the ground. Then the tail ripped away. Leaving just a small hole in a field.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 02, 2026 06:11 PM

Furthering my belief that man was not intended to fly.

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (AI08i)

235
Well, shit.

I just had to close the rollup door at the shop because a couple of furry predators decided to come waltzing in. Yes, feral kittehs.

I think my asshole feral feline fellator neighbor probably started feeding them again. Last winter, he was piling dry cat food under the dumpster right next to my suite, and a cat got into the shop and stayed there hiding in the back mewing for about 3 days before I could shoo the damned thing out the door.

The last thing I need is one of those beasts shitting all over the stored items and dying under a pallet making the place smell like death for the next month or two.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (y9nCu)

236 +2R Senate +5-8R House

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (AI08i)

I'll have what he's having.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (RDiUV)

237 I think the bleed air system failed and she iced up.
Unless the FDR has that we're never gonna know.

Posted by: torabora at November 02, 2026 06:14 PM (Wt1Rs)

238 233 I hope 2028 is Vance / Trump

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 06:06 PM (Sco7b)

Donald Jr.? God no!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (k5CNB)

No.

Can't President Trump be VP?

Heads would explode!!

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 02, 2026 06:14 PM (Sco7b)

239 The last thing I need is one of those beasts shitting all over the stored items and dying under a pallet making the place smell like death for the next month or two.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 02, 2026 06:13 PM (y9nCu)

Maybe make friends with a local rescue group and they might come and catch them for you and take them away.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 06:14 PM (uhVAy)

240 High speed + loss of traction (black ice) + fixed or moving obstacle you hit head on = Coffin Corner.

This sounds suspiciously like math.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 02, 2026 06:14 PM (CZuvr)

241 She seemed to be communicating rationally up to the end to me.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2026 06:08 PM (uhVAy)

I think she was briefly on the edge of hysterics, right around the time they probably realized that they were fucked, but she got it under control.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 02, 2026 06:14 PM (ExV1e)

242 tried to add one year to my dob. I'm old enough - don't need that kind of help.
Posted by: scampydog

Get off my lawn youngster.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 02, 2026 06:15 PM (NnhvP)

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