Gun Thread: TXMoMe Withdrawal Edition!

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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the TXMoMe Withdrawal Edition? Yep, the weeks of planning and execution are over, and the calendar resets anew. Approximately 51 weeks until the 2027 TXMoMe! The countdown begins!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals
Anyone pick up anything new shooting fundamentals-wise in Texas?

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Enforcer M1 Carbine

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S&W Disassembly

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B-52 Loading - Internal Stores

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Left Lane Campers

No, not camping in a tent, but rather the *&$#@^*%$ people who cruise merrily in the left passing lane on a highway. In my 1,400 mile odyssey to and from Texas I encountered way too many of these retards.

Cop: "Any guns in the car?"
Retard: "No"
Cop: "Why not?"

Honestly, I'd have preferred to see the driver pulled from the car and beaten rather than merely being given a warning.

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Our Pal The Sine Bar

Featuring professor Prabhakarna Sripalvardana Atapattusanatungajayasuriya.

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Fear!

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Atomic Attack!

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Cigar of the Week

This week our pal Diogenes scores again with this excellent review of the The Perdomo Maduro 10th Anniversary Edition.

OK Hordemates, lets first look at what the producers say about it: "The Perdomo Reserve 10th Anniversary Box-Pressed Maduro" is a medium to full-bodied Nicaraguan "puro" blended with a dark, oily 6-year old Cuban-seed Nicaraguan wrapper that has been bourbon barrel-aged for an additional 14 months and is paired with 6-year old Cuban-seed Nicaraguan binder and filler tobaccos to create naturally sweet flavors with hints of dark cocoa and espresso on the finish.
A hell of a long sentence, and yes, it's all true.
Now, what I discovered with mine (that I enjoyed on my patio on a beautiful Pacific NW sunny afternoon along with the last of my Monkey Shoulder scotch) was a cigar that looked and felt nice, but in the first inch, offered a really bitter, dark chocolate taste. I did not enjoy that. Patoooey!
But...
Starting the second inch, the cigar became perfectly normal, offering a mellowing flavor of tobacco and cedar plus a hint, just a hint, of the bourbon barrel aging mentioned above. Actually I really didn't catch much of that, and that is fine. Thinking back, I can remember it. As it turned out, my cigar didn't need it. A fair and even smoke, smooth ash, and a pleasant finish. I would smoke this again, but I think I'd pair it with a bourbon or even beer instead of scotch. This is a working man's cigar, and I'm OK with that.
Not overly expensive, give it a try!

Excellent, Diogenes! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Palmetto State Armory
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 07:00 PM (raF1/)

2 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 07:00 PM (raF1/)

3 Here.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:02 PM (BXl9F)

4 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 07:02 PM (raF1/)

5 TXMoMe Withdrawal Edition!
Texas Interruptess?

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:03 PM (BXl9F)

6 Have I been to the range? Does Helen Keller play the piano with one hand so she can sing with the other?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 25, 2026 07:03 PM (eGzf1)

7 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2026 07:04 PM (Ia/+0)

8 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, lurking about at October 25, 2026 07:04 PM (sAmhv)

9 Why, yes, I have been to the range.
This very morn!

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:05 PM (BXl9F)

10 Blake, hahahahaha. Hi, darlin.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 25, 2026 07:05 PM (ua/lL)

11 Ben!

Hi right back at you!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 25, 2026 07:07 PM (eGzf1)

12 Revolver disassembly is easy. Reassembly on the other hand...

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 07:07 PM (vTZFs)

13 And I atomized aspirins and terrorized tums.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:07 PM (BXl9F)

14 Left lane campers? I feel it's my God given responsibility to move them over to where they belong, and did that many times to TX and back.
So, guess they don't teach lane discipline anymore?

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (XfIK1)

15 Finally got my CMP 1911. I got a remington rand model that was made in late 1944. I doubt it ever saw any combat in WWII as it is in very good condition. It has very little wear and just a few nicks in the metal. The grips are both marked "75" in red paint and it was done with a stencil. This one probably sat in some stateside post armory for 50+ years until it got turned back into the Army depot.

The barrel is a bit dark but that is to be expected using corrosive ammo. Rifling is OK. I won't be able to get it out to shoot for another couple of weeks.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (I43vL)

16 I was a weapons loader in the USAF, had choice to go with bombers or fighters, picked fighters so worked on A-10s and F-15s

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (Ia/+0)

17 Evening everyone!!!

My MoMe technically has not finished as I made it home in a vehicle other than my own. LOL

With luck will be flying out to OH on Friday evening and picking up the Jeep from the dealer the next day and driving home

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 25, 2026 07:11 PM (VnS6u)

18 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 07:11 PM (z32fn)

19 Scoobs, what up with Jeep?

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:12 PM (BXl9F)

20 Howdy Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 07:12 PM (pQ7Rb)

21 So, first off, testing, results and match results. First: Initial test results with 153.5 grain Berger Hybrid Bullets out of a 28" barrel are promising. About 2920 fps and around .5 MOA group. I'm pretty sure I can shrink the group. If it works out, this will be my new 1,000 yard load. There's no denying the 7mm guys have an advantage in the wind so I'm hoping to shave off some of their advantage. We shall see.

500 meter silhouette match: Third match in a row I've gone 18 for 20. The perfect 20 for 20 still eludes me. But, on the bright side, I had two rounds left at the end of the match and picked up the silhouette I missed @ 300 meters and 500 meters. My consolation prize.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 25, 2026 07:13 PM (eGzf1)

22 Left lane campers? Many was the time I wished I had a howitzer attached to the car to clear those slow moving Mother............. from the left lane

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 25, 2026 07:13 PM (VnS6u)

23 Fundamentals in TX? One word: wind. Still trying to figure out what to do with it.
But your into, TX MoMe Withdrawal Edition, is spot on. What a glorious weekend. I still smile thinking about the hugs, the smiles, the cooking, the eating, the dancing, and just the camaraderie with the bestest people ever. So looking forward to next year.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:14 PM (XfIK1)

24 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special hope-that-ear-finally-stopped-ringing greeting to our host Weasel!

I'm on the road for the next 90 minutes or so, so I will be scarce in the thread until I get home. Try not to ride any poorly-secured, wobbly chairs backwards onto the concrete like certain people, who shall remain nameless, but whi managed the feat twice in a row, did in Corsicana.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 25, 2026 07:14 PM (Rg+5t)

25 OT, but the Green Bay Detroit game is very entertaining if you like this sort of thing.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 25, 2026 07:14 PM (sl73Y)

26 Good evening Horde and thanks Weasel!

Posted by: TRex - passing lane patrol dino at October 25, 2026 07:15 PM (XfIK1)

27 Finally got my CMP 1911. This one probably sat in some stateside post armory for 50+ years until it got turned back into the Army depot.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (I43vL)

You can file a FOIA request to get the history of where your 1911 went. Records went electronic in the mid-70s after Vietnam, so you'll be able to see where your pistol went from then until it was transferred to the CMP.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 07:15 PM (z32fn)

28 Try not to ride any poorly-secured, wobbly chairs backwards onto the concrete like certain people, who shall remain nameless, but whi managed the feat twice in a row, did in Corsicana.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
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Can't even begin to imagine who you are talking about...

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:17 PM (XfIK1)

29 Since I started keeping a pistol in the console, drivers do not annoy me much. Idiots going 95 can pass me. I’m usually in the center lane. Folks who go 90 then 45 then tailgate me, then flip me off and brake check me…. Don’t care. Do your thing.

I’m good.

Make me stop, block me in. Get out of your car, we have a problem. Or rather, you do.

All good. I’m fine.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:17 PM (rU0z4)

30 Left lane campers? Many was the time I wished I had a howitzer attached to the car to clear those slow moving Mother............. from the left lane
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 25, 2026 07:13 PM (VnS6u)
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Make Autodueling Great Again!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 25, 2026 07:18 PM (FZ29D)

31 25 OT, but the Green Bay Detroit game is very entertaining if you like this sort of thing.
Posted by: From about That Time

Niners losing to the Bird Reich was better.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:19 PM (rU0z4)

32 RI Red, when I was driving out to Ohio to pick up Schnorflepuppy my Jeep got a check engine light come on around Pittsburgh when I slowed down for a traffic jam. It went off once clear of the jam when I got up to highway speeds.
When I got to Ohio it came on again when I slowed down to go into the hotel.
This was on the Tuesday before the MoMe.
I brought it into a dealer the next day and found there were some recalls on the Jeep.
Problem was the part that was needed was on back order.
The part is supposedly coming in tomorrow.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 25, 2026 07:21 PM (VnS6u)

33 Try not to ride any poorly-secured, wobbly chairs backwards onto the concrete

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 25, 2026 07:14 PM
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Sounds like a feature for Wobbly Shit Monthly Magazine.

Posted by: TRex - editor in chief and publisher dino at October 25, 2026 07:21 PM (XfIK1)

34 Earlier this month, Husband and I both achieved Distinguished Expert rating in the NRA's Pistol Qualification. Both used .22 handguns. Now to start working on it with Glock 9mm's...

Posted by: Pat* at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (D7fKa)

35 Posted by: Pat* at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (D7fKa)
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Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (pQ7Rb)

36 Thank you, Thank you and thank you to each and every one of you that came to Texas.

As that Quarter Twenty guy said "This is America"

Posted by: Ben Had at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (ua/lL)

37 Finally got my CMP 1911. I got a remington rand model that was made in late 1944. I doubt it ever saw any combat in WWII as it is in very good condition.

I'm envious. I got a Colt/Ithaca mix master. It's a legit piece of history, so I suppose I should be satisfied with that.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 07:23 PM (vTZFs)

38 The TXMoMe is just an example of the very best of the American spirit, in every aspect.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:24 PM (XfIK1)

39 The Grateful, thank you for all you do.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 25, 2026 07:25 PM (ua/lL)

40 Scoobs, that’s disheartening. But all’s well that ends well.
And it adds to MoMe lore.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:25 PM (30Gj0)

41 As that Quarter Twenty guy said "This is America"
Posted by: Ben Had at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (ua/lL)
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Thanks for being there when we all arrived!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 07:25 PM (pQ7Rb)

42 Red, curious. What distance did the aspirin run to before its death?

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:27 PM (XfIK1)

43 Ben Had, thank you for being you, and making this annual trek a priority.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:28 PM (XfIK1)

44 38 The TXMoMe is just an example of the very best of the American spirit, in every aspect.
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:24 PM (XfIK1)

Agreed. But one area in which we are a bit deficient is in bringing along the younger generations.
Yes, there are some under 40s, and there some precocious kids with us.
But maybe they have their own groups.
Just like with Junior. I exposed him to Rush, then he said, “Dad, there’s this Wilkow guy.”

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:31 PM (30Gj0)

45 I've been given to understand that the publication of a new magazine entitled "No Wobbly Sh*t" was announced at the TxMoMe.

I'm curious if this magazine will have a "No Wobbly Sh*t Letters" section.

If so, I have a story about an encounter with a Range Babe that I will submit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2026 07:32 PM (0sNs1)

46 "people who cruise merrily in the left passing lane on a highway. "

The Germans have vays of eliminating that.

Posted by: Apple at October 25, 2026 07:37 PM (MWfyi)

47 Red, curious. What distance did the aspirin run to before its death?
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:27 PM (XfIK1)

Grateful, they did not run. They’d have just died tired.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:37 PM (LMRVO)

48 Oops off forbidden sock.

Posted by: fd at October 25, 2026 07:37 PM (MWfyi)

49 I’m sure I would be featured in the wobbly-shit section!

Hi weasel and everyone else.

Posted by: Rancherbob at October 25, 2026 07:38 PM (3fGPY)

50 Evenin', Rancherbob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 07:39 PM (f3rLs)

51 Nice review Diogenes.

I've tried the 10th Anniversary Maduro once. It was in the lounge at the Perdomo HQ in Miami Gardens, FL. A perfecto - not a vitola I ever choose, but time was a bit short.

The incredibly Miami rush hour traffic delayed my arrival at Perdomo until about 30 minutes before closing. People there were great. I bought a variety of sticks for the sailing trip I was embarking on the next day. They said just go into the staff kitchen and get any drink you'd like out of the fridge.

I joked with one guy about how I was scared by the life-size cutout of DJ Trump in the lounge, he answered oh yeah, scary, huh? This was a few days before the '24 election.

By the time I finished my 10th Anniversary, most employees had left. Nick III hung out with me on the front porch until my Uber showed up. We talked the cigar biz and the election. Great guy. He waited until I was getting into my ride to lock up. They already had a customer, now they have one for life.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:39 PM (U/Byj)

52 Niners losing to the Bird Reich was better.
Posted by: nurse ratched

I have no dog in this fight.
Other than Seahawks winning, nurse likes nothing better than the Niners losing, it seems.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 25, 2026 07:39 PM (sl73Y)

53 Will "No Wobbly Sh*t" have a "Fundamental of the Month" centerfold?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2026 07:40 PM (0sNs1)

54 One thing to watch for in WWII era 1911's is that inductive heat treatment of the slide was used as a wartime expedient. Treat them gently as in no high power loads as the heat treatment can be spotty on some.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:41 PM (E4rtv)

55 Howdy Rancherbob!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 07:41 PM (nI4xo)

56 Will "No Wobbly Sh*t" have a "Fundamental of the Month" centerfold?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
*******
I vote for this as a COW...

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:42 PM (XfIK1)

57 Had some range time with the boy spawn today. Been a few years since we last did that. Tons of fun and the little shit can still shoot.

Posted by: scampydog at October 25, 2026 07:42 PM (41CYW)

58 Red,
The younger generation is being brought up. They network differently than we do. My boys are more conservative than I am. So are the majority of their friends.

Their “MoMes” are online where they play video games and chat and laugh and congregate. They live everywhere. All over the US and all over the planet. There is a huge difference between them and the anonymous crowd putrifying Reddit and instagram. These kids actually know each other.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:42 PM (yEz+x)

59 Problem was the part that was needed was on back order.
The part is supposedly coming in tomorrow.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

Too bad for you. But on the good side, you might stand a better chance for solid service in Ohio than in the tri-State area I believe you reside in.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 25, 2026 07:42 PM (sl73Y)

60 “Dear No Wobbly Shit Forum.
I never believed this would happen to me. This one time at Band Camp, I mean Texas MoMe, …”

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:43 PM (LMRVO)

61 "people who cruise merrily in the left passing lane on a highway. "

The Germans have vays of eliminating that.
Posted by: Apple at October 25, 2026 07:37 PM (MWfyi)

I saw what happened after a Beemer found a Trabi cruising in the left lane of the A2/E30 autobahn just west of the old Checkpoint Alpha in November 1990. The Beemer was bashed up, but it looked like the occupants survived. What was left of the Trabi got scattered all over the autobahn. I guess the East Germans hadn't figured out that rule yet.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 07:43 PM (z32fn)

62 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread Horde! Thanks to Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen for hosting the MoMee, and to Ben Had and all the others who made it happen!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 25, 2026 07:44 PM (1z+WB)

63 Weasel you need to spend time on SoCal freeways. Left lane campers unknown (to me). Quite the opposite. You want to use the fast lane, be ready to go 75-80 (regardless of conditions). Much faster/worse up in LA, as it has always been. The HOV lanes on the lower 405 near Irvine (which are yuuge, double, spacious) ..... 85 is sort of the floor for speed.

Incompetent/dangerous drivers have become such a large minority that driving is often anything but fun now. Had a nice chat with an older (50s) CHP officer at my local cigar shop about it. He was a local, and old enough to understand what I was saying when I pointed out how bad it's become. He said they lack resources to deal with what I was talking about, as they had to focus on the racers, and really really reckless speedsters.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:44 PM (U/Byj)

64 Other than Seahawks winning, nurse likes nothing better than the Niners losing, it seems.
Posted by: From about That Time

Well. Duh.
And the Eagles. I hate those bastards.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:44 PM (yEz+x)

65 For those who might be interested, Bud's Gunshop has a bunch of Check-Mate brand magazines on sale.

https://tinyurl.com/5exa7zka

What caught my eye was: "Check-Mate 1911 Magazine .45 ACP 7-Round Full USGI Black" which is the original configuration of the 1911 magazine, with no funky feedlips or trick followers and it holds 7 rounds, just as JMB (PBUH) intended. I already ordered mine, so I'm willing to tell the rest of you about it.

Check-Mate is made in the USA, and has a long history of being an OEM and Government supplier.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 25, 2026 07:47 PM (yOHKZ)

66 FWIW, I don't recommend taking a S&W revolver down especially an old one. If a part is broken, often they have to be fitted either using a part from a donor gun or in the rare case that a new old part exists, these can often be oversized and designed to be filed/stoned down to fit an individual revolver.

Anything that deals with timing such as the ratchet (ratchets are hand fitted usually for a particular revolver), hands, bolts, cylinder stops, etc.

For most people taking the side plate off and spraying it down with a clear guncleaner (usually mineral spirits nowadays) and patting it dry is enough. A few things like the main spring, strain screw, etc. can be tightened but actions are best left alone. This is even more true with old Colts prior to coil mainsprings, High Standard Sentinel series, and doing more than field stripping a Ruger Security Series or GP 100/Redhawk. Single actions are a bit easier to work on. Never worked on one but Charters, especially old ones and Tauruses are reputed to be a pita to work on.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:49 PM (E4rtv)

67 Their “MoMes” are online where they play video games and chat and laugh and congregate. They live everywhere. All over the US and all over the planet. There is a huge difference between them and the anonymous crowd putrifying Reddit and instagram. These kids actually know each other.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:42 PM (yEz+x)

That’s good to hear, Nurse. I suspect that they are a pretty proficient group. In more ways than one.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 07:50 PM (LMRVO)

68 Sad! Sunday afternoons before the Chargers decamped to LA, there'd be a flyover of F-18s from Miramar. They'd scream fairly low right over my house and on down Mission Valley to the stadium.

Was burning a My Father Honduras Blue on the back porch, heard choppers. Two USN or USMC H-60s circled right overhead, then headed west. New stadium is (stupidly) oriented North-South vs. East-West, so they flew down left side of the I-8 then hung a right to fly N over the stadium. Women's soccer team game.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:51 PM (U/Byj)

69 Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:49 PM

There is iron in the words of whig for all readers of "No Wobbly Sh*t" to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2026 07:52 PM (0sNs1)

70 I passed on the CMP 1911s, but had already bought a bunch of USGI 1911 mags from CMP years before. They're my cheap/range practice mags. Wilson Combat mags for matches.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:53 PM (U/Byj)

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68 Sad! Sunday afternoons before the Chargers decamped to LA, there'd be a flyover of F-18s from Miramar. They'd scream fairly low right over my house and on down Mission Valley to the stadium.

Was burning a My Father Honduras Blue on the back porch, heard choppers. Two USN or USMC H-60s circled right overhead, then headed west. New stadium is (stupidly) oriented North-South vs. East-West, so they flew down left side of the I-8 then hung a right to fly N over the stadium. Women's soccer team game.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:51 PM

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Two helicopters fitting that description flew overhead here a few minutes ago, heading North.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 25, 2026 07:54 PM (azNOR)

72 Atomic Attack, brought to you by Motorola!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, LINDSEY GRAHAM WAS GAY?!!? at October 25, 2026 07:57 PM (zZu0s)

73
Was busy upon my return from the TXMoMe to Schloss Hadrian last week, so, belatedly, I wanted to say that it was an honor, a privilege and a pleasure to meet so many of you at long last. As awesome as you are in grey boxes, you're all even awesomer in the flesh.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2026 07:58 PM (eRlcH)

74 Yeah full revolver disassembly is not in my wheelhouse.

Only time I defied Official Recommendations was when I did a total disassembly of my XD-9. Went fine. Also replaced the recoil stop pin before that (easy).

Full disassembly of one of my M1s is overdue (plus, have to fix/replace the rear sight, it slips down during shooting. I only do this every few years, as lock-up in the stock is key and isn't helped by removing/reinserting the receiver.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:59 PM (U/Byj)

75 Hadrian, it was a pleasure to have met you.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 07:59 PM (f3rLs)

76 Semi-Literate, what general area? Was surprised to see them transiting back east, right over me again, instead of heading either to North Island or Miramar. Yuma? Seems unlikely they'd task ships from Yuma for this.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 08:00 PM (U/Byj)

77 By the time I finished my 10th Anniversary, most employees had left. Nick III hung out with me on the front porch until my Uber showed up. We talked the cigar biz and the election. Great guy. He waited until I was getting into my ride to lock up. They already had a customer, now they have one for life.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 07:39 PM (U/Byj)

The unspoken beauty of a good cigar...the atmosphere that surrounds a memorable smoking experience.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2026 08:00 PM (2WIwB)

78 I was at Sheel's today and to my surprise, they had suppressors on the shelf. I figured with last week's ATF announcement, people would be snatching them up. There was a guy there who wanted to do a Form 4 because he didn't trust the feds to not change their policy again and hem him up. Can't say I really blame him but the sales guy was like "Uh, we don't do that anymore." I guess because they've changed their process and can't deviate from it. Which seems a little weird to me. I mean, just do what you would have done a week and a half ago. But it looked like they weren't going to.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 08:01 PM (vTZFs)

79
76 Semi-Literate, what general area? Was surprised to see them transiting back east, right over me again, instead of heading either to North Island or Miramar. Yuma? Seems unlikely they'd task ships from Yuma for this.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 08:00 PM

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La Mesa / Mt. Helix.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 25, 2026 08:02 PM (azNOR)

80 Thanks Semi-Literate. You're just east of me.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 08:02 PM (U/Byj)

81 Hadrian, how very wonderful it was to meet you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 25, 2026 08:02 PM (ua/lL)

82 Ok, gun/suppressor talk:
What recommendations for a 9 mm can for a PCC?

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 08:03 PM (30Gj0)

83 One last thing. Removing a Colt, Taurus, or a Smith and Wesson side plate--NEVER pry it off--it will damage it. First remove the screws holding the side plate using a proper screwdriver with the correct bit size.
Instead, use a wood dowel, a wood handle of a small ball pein hammer, etc. and whack it on teh back side away from the sideplate side. No steel or brass hammer needed, just vibration from the wood hitting the steel to loosen it. If stuck, then apply penetrating oil or some other really fine machine oil to the junction, let it sit, then try again in a few minutes. Percussion should loosen the sideplate where you can remove it without prying even on old revolvers.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:03 PM (E4rtv)

84 Rugers and High Standard Sentinels have no side plate for their double action revolvers. Not a coincidence, Harry Seyfried designed the Sentinel first and then went to work for Ruger designing the Security, Redhawk and initial GP100 designs.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:04 PM (E4rtv)

85 I went to the range and had 3 suppresors that came in. I left with 5. It was like Christmas.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 25, 2026 08:06 PM (P4bJX)

86 One thing to watch for in WWII era 1911's is that inductive heat treatment of the slide was used as a wartime expedient. Treat them gently as in no high power loads as the heat treatment can be spotty on some.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:41 PM (E4rtv)

IIRC, heat treatment was applied to the slide stop notch and the front end of the slide. Hardening of the front end of slide began with the 1940 Army contract for 4,696 pistols. Colt began heat treating the slide stop notch in early 1943 (circa above SN# 880,000). These will show as discoloration between these locations and the rest of slide. Refinished slides usually have more prominent discolorations, probably due to the refinishing process. Check these locations for cracking because these are known high stress locations on the 1911's slide. Any evidence of cracking should make you retire that slide from any further use.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:10 PM (z32fn)

87 Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:49 PM (E4rtv)

IIRC, the number of gunsmiths in the US qualified to work on old school Colt revolvers (i.e. anything produced before 2017) can be counted on the fingers of a single hand.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:15 PM (z32fn)

88 Ok, gun/suppressor talk:
What recommendations for a 9 mm can for a PCC?
Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 08:03 PM (30Gj0)

My Silencerco Octane 9 does a good job with my H&K SP5. With subsonic ammo, it really does deliver "Hollywood" quiet gunshots.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:18 PM (z32fn)

89 Finally here.
Been a long week (but the son's and DIL's wedding went well, as did the rehearsal dinner).
Back to restoring my old routine (with improvements, God willing).

Thanks, Weasel and Horde.

("Polka Dot Bandit"?! Really?)

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:19 PM (kU0PQ)

90 IIRC, the number of gunsmiths in the US qualified to work on old school Colt revolvers (i.e. anything produced before 2017) can be counted on the fingers of a single hand.
Posted by: Ed L

I have a good gunsmith locally (3 generations of gunsmiths in that shop) but Cylinder and Slide in Nebraska and Frank Glenn in Phoenix area work on older Colts.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv)

91 I've been using a Huxwurx on my Sp5. It's not a quiet but the gas to the face is a lot less

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 25, 2026 08:20 PM (P4bJX)

92 (various Brazilian Portuguese epithets)

Appears the revolting Lula has won the runoff in Brazil. Very bad outcome.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 08:20 PM (U/Byj)

93 Grateful: COW =?

Posted by: Iris at October 25, 2026 08:20 PM (286+n)

94 74 Yeah full revolver disassembly is not in my wheelhouse.

Only time I defied Official Recommendations was when I did a total disassembly of my XD-9. Went fine. Also replaced the recoil stop pin before that (easy).

Full disassembly of one of my M1s is overdue (plus, have to fix/replace the rear sight, it slips down during shooting. I only do this every few years, as lock-up in the stock is key and isn't helped by removing/reinserting the receiver.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Most newer firearms are made on CNC machines and have interchangeable parts starting about 1990's or so. Same with ARs, Glocks, or Ruger 10/22's.

Watch out for early MIM parts also from S&W in particular which started in the 90's. Took awhile to get the process correct and that is one of the headaches working on Smith and Wessons from that era.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:23 PM (E4rtv)

95 Grateful: COW =?
Posted by: Iris
*****
Comment of the Week.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 08:24 PM (XfIK1)

96 Revolver disassembly is easy. Reassembly on the other hand...
Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 07:07 PM (vTZFs)

True of so many things....

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:26 PM (kU0PQ)

97 For anyone with older revolvers, M1 rifles, Mausers, M1 Carbines, etc.

I strongly recommend Jerry Kuhnhausen's Shop Manual for the particular firearm you have (if you have older firearms). Amazon has some if not all but so does Midway USA. I can also recommend Brownell's Gunsmith Kinks, Volumes 1-4 if you want to know more about gunsmithing/troubleshooting older firearms.

He was a top notch gunsmith in CA back in the day and took exhaustive notes and pictures, diagrams, etc. of complete disassembly, trouble shooting checklist, and reassembly of the firearms that he covers.

Even if you never plan on doing anything other than troubleshooting, the manual is worth its price because you can talk with the gunsmith about what you think the problem is knowledgeably.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:28 PM (E4rtv)

98 Ok, gun/suppressor talk:
What recommendations for a 9 mm can for a PCC?
Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 08:03 PM (30Gj0)

My Silencerco Octane 9 does a good job with my H&K SP5. With subsonic ammo, it really does deliver "Hollywood" quiet gunshots.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:18 PM

I have a silencerco omega 9 that works great on my S&W PC9. With subsonic rounds it is very quiet. It is so quiet we can hear ricochets from the steel plate target at 100 yards.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2026 08:29 PM (I43vL)

99 Hadrian, how very wonderful it was to meet you.
Posted by: Ben Had
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This. Hadrian, you are a delight.

I'm sorry I missed meeting TxAnn but I enjoyed the TX shaped cookies!

It was, as always, a wonderful time though we missed those of you who couldn't be there.

I typed out a range report, but the tl;dr version is my deep gratitude to Steck for her patience, keen observations, and advice. I badly needed a refresher on the fundamentals of pistol shooting. I had fun on the rifle range as well getting reacquainted with my AR despite wind, a wonky optic, and a very wobbly shooter (me). I heard some "pings" after pulling the trigger and that was enough for me.

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 25, 2026 08:31 PM (lOlUK)

100 96 Revolver disassembly is easy. Reassembly on the other hand...
Posted by: Oddbob

High Standard Sentinels and some other European and older offbrand firearms were put together with pins and a bare minimum of screws. In the Sentinel, it is about like building a ship inside a bottle as the little 22 LR Sentinel is a solid frame revolver but without Harry Seyfried's later idea of having a trigger action subcomponent removable as a whole. Ruger GP100's, Security Series, and Redhawks share this design and are easy to field strip for cleaning as well as being tough.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:31 PM (E4rtv)

101 Posted by: screaming in digital at October 25, 2026 08:31 PM (lOlUK)
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I watched you hitting the 100 and 200yd targets!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 08:33 PM (62ILr)

102 Well, after the family health misadventures, finally back to one of our "group" shoots. 6 of us with 8 different ARs... different optics, different grips, etc. We all switch back and forth, reload mags, etc., with targets at 50/100/200/300.
It's me, jr., and friends, and we try to do this every few weeks...

A lot of fun, and frankly, I was doing better than I expected.

Oh, and one was a really set up Geissele Super Duty w/Eotech Holo and magnifier. It was a genuine pleasure to shoot...
(Sadly, it's not mine...)

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:33 PM (pfXMo)

103 I've a really nice Ruger Mk II SS government target heavy 6 7/8" barrel that I can drive tacks with at ten yards, but it's got that spring-remove disassembly that most find troublesome. I cannot seem to remember every time I reassemble which hand goes where and whether up is down. Beautiful gun though. I put a target grip on it, and while it has a rail screwed to its upper for optics or whatever (I had a red dot), I prefer the open sights.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 25, 2026 08:33 PM (3p/KU)

104 Evening all.
Had my nose on a book and lost rack of time.
No range report but the Viridium optic for my new Bodyguard has arrived. Looking forward to having it installed so maybe more leverage so I can lock it back. The gun is really small but so far have had no trouble shooting it accurately. With advice from Blaster have identified a holster that should clip securely called Ulticlip. Less worried about printing now because it hardly takes up more rom than my phone.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 25, 2026 08:34 PM (kJmSS)

105 In a book. In a book. 😉

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 25, 2026 08:35 PM (kJmSS)

106 69 Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:49 PM

There is iron in the words of whig for all readers of "No Wobbly Sh*t" to see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Wait until you hear my words on proper torquing action screws. Of all the wobbly shit, if your action screws are not torqued properly on a rifle, your receiver will flop around, your shots will spray in a meaningless pattern for some, vertical or horizontal patterning in others. And it will very likely damage your stock if not other parts.

Like scope mounts, using a bit of fingernail enamel to mark where the screw is in relation to the frame when torqued properly is a cheap and easy visual indicator if the screws are backing out under recoil or other reasons.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)

107 103 I've a really nice Ruger Mk II SS government target heavy 6 7/8" barrel that I can drive tacks with at ten yards, but it's got that spring-remove disassembly that most find troublesome. I cannot seem to remember every time I reassemble which hand goes where and whether up is down. Beautiful gun though. I put a target grip on it, and while it has a rail screwed to its upper for optics or whatever (I had a red dot), I prefer the open sights.
Posted by: M. Gaga

They make an aftermarket gizmo to make takedown easier on Rugers 1-3 models. The best is no longer made as the gunsmith making it died during the Covid era and no one in the family took up the business.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)

108 Perdomo cigars have failed to impress, and I've found too many alternatives in that price range ($7-10) that consistently deliver. Perla Del Mar (PDM on the band) is one example. It's been a while, so maybe I should give them another try..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 25, 2026 08:38 PM (08OqX)

109 ...but it's got that spring-remove disassembly that most find troublesome

Get the takedown modification from Majestic Arms or TandemKross.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 08:39 PM (vTZFs)

110 27 Finally got my CMP 1911. This one probably sat in some stateside post armory for 50+ years until it got turned back into the Army depot.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (I43vL)

You can file a FOIA request to get the history of where your 1911 went. Records went electronic in the mid-70s after Vietnam, so you'll be able to see where your pistol went from then until it was transferred to the CMP.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 07:15 PM (z32fn)

Thanks for that tip about a FOIA request for 1911 frame history.

I'm tempted. I may not ask. I'd like to think my CMP Remington Rand late '43 frame (Colt slide as received) was the base for a pistol carried by a paratrooper in ETO or a Marine at Iwo or Okinawa or the Chosin Reservoir or Hue. Not the base of a pistol that never left CONUS.

Posted by: Gref at October 25, 2026 08:39 PM (5rh/l)

111 Weasel, any thoughts on scope reticles and how busy (or simple) they should be? I like the bullet drop compensators (BDC) on the ACOG, but I have my doubts about reticles with enough BDC and windage stuff on them to look like a fully lit Christmas tree.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:39 PM (z32fn)

112 And fwiw, after you clean a screw with acetone (aka Fingernail polish remover works) if you don't keep acetone around. You can use fingernail polish enamel as a mild loctite on screw threads. About like loctite purple where you can remove the screws without heat.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:40 PM (E4rtv)

113 The best is no longer made as the gunsmith making it died during the Covid era and no one in the family took up the business.

Oh, that would be Majestic. I met him at the NRA Convention one year. Gentle giant of a man with the most stereotypical New Yawk accent you ever heard.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 08:41 PM (vTZFs)

114 Get the takedown modification from Majestic Arms or TandemKross.
Posted by: Oddbob
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I think the guy behind Majestic is the one that died.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:41 PM (E4rtv)

115 106 69 Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:49 PM

There is iron in the words of whig for all readers of "No Wobbly Sh*t" to see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Wait until you hear my words on proper torquing action screws. Of all the wobbly shit, if your action screws are not torqued properly on a rifle, your receiver will flop around, your shots will spray in a meaningless pattern for some, vertical or horizontal patterning in others. And it will very likely damage your stock if not other parts.

Like scope mounts, using a bit of fingernail enamel to mark where the screw is in relation to the frame when torqued properly is a cheap and easy visual indicator if the screws are backing out under recoil or other reasons.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)

Thanks for that tip, whig. I'll check the action screw torque and mark them from now on.

Posted by: Gref at October 25, 2026 08:42 PM (5rh/l)

116 Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:39 PM (z32fn)
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Simple thin crosshairs with minimal MOA reference marks

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 08:43 PM (LRYfP)

117 111,
Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a huge KISS fan. (No, not the costumed guys...)
While I appreciate the possibilities with complex reticle designs, they're just not for me. A simple ladder with windage increments is all I want...

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:45 PM (pfXMo)

118 Gun Thread Content: I bought a S&W 1856 Stealth Hunter chambered in .38spl/.357mag, paired with a Silencerco Spectre 9 can last week.

Subsonic .38 out of a lever gun is so much fun and is hearing safe, bordering on suppressed .22 quiet.

Buying a can on a 4473 is fantastic! Thanks Trump!

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 08:45 PM (oqH4h)

119 I watched you hitting the 100 and 200yd targets!
Posted by: Weasel
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I think I only hit 200 once but I was happy. Love to see others hitting further out especially in that crazy wind. It was just really good to be out there.

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 25, 2026 08:45 PM (lOlUK)

120 . You can use fingernail polish enamel as a mild loctite on screw threads"

Sounds like an excuse to buy....fingernail polish???

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:47 PM (pfXMo)

121 To find the proper torque for action screws, consult the owners manual if you have it, look online for it if you don't or buy one from Ebay, or if an old military rifle, you can generally find that in old military manuals.

For mounting scopes, action screws, and other such things, Midway's FAT Torque Wrench is pretty handy for most firearms and scopes. Fix-It Sticks are fine too but expensive for a complete set. For one rifle or two, those can be another option as foolproof in use.

Usually these torque levels are in inch pounds except for foreign arms. Those use Newton Metres (n-m).

A regular torque wrench often doesn't work well on screws etc. due to clearance but those are an option too.

Beware cheap Chinesium generic makes as they may not be worth the paper their torque specs are printed upon.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:48 PM (E4rtv)

122 Way to go, SiD!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 08:48 PM (6lvzU)

123 So, guess they don't teach lane discipline anymore?
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 07:08 PM (XfIK1)

Pfft. Fundamentals are always key.

Just like some people think they never have to go to the range, some drivers think they can just be lazy and not control their vehicle and maneuver - just cruise in the easy lane.

Also, since you mentioned "lane discipline" - how many shooters have we complained about who don't seem to care about others on the firing line? It's all similar.

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:48 PM (kU0PQ)

124 I bought a S&W 1856 Stealth Hunter chambered in .38spl/.357mag, paired with a Silencerco Spectre 9 can "

Very nice!

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:50 PM (pfXMo)

125 Sounds like an excuse to buy....fingernail polish???

Posted by: man

Eh, I use it and used to use liquid paper as cheap markers on parts. Harder now to find liquid paper than it is fingernail polish. On old iron sights, cheap and nasty fingernail polish in orange, yellow, or iridescent green can be applied to front and rear sights as well to make them pop.

Cheap and nasty lipstick is actually pretty decent when fitting a stock as a marker where the action is still binding on a wood stock. Lampblack is better but a pain to remove after application and makes a bigger mess than lipstick.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:50 PM (E4rtv)

126 Hi Weasel, I wanted to stop in real quick and say hello. I got back from Dallas today which is the second weekend in a row now I’ve made the trip north. Had I not been with my liberal friend, I would have made a covert MoMe drive by so I’d get the directions down pat without needing a Ben Had escort.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 25, 2026 08:51 PM (itAg7)

127 I'm tempted. I may not ask. I'd like to think my CMP Remington Rand late '43 frame (Colt slide as received) was the base for a pistol carried by a paratrooper in ETO or a Marine at Iwo or Okinawa or the Chosin Reservoir or Hue. Not the base of a pistol that never left CONUS.
Posted by: Gref at October 25, 2026 08:39 PM (5rh/l)

Substantial numbers of 1911s were used in Operation Desert Storm by the 3rd Armored Division, artillery brigades and support units assigned to VII Corps, and by National Guard and US Army Reserve units mobilized for that war. National Guard and USAR units would not hand in their last 1911s for M9s until the late 1990s. The USMC was never a fan of the M9. Many units (especially in the USMC Reserve's 4th Marine Division) found excuses to they hang on to their 1911s until they had no other choice. The 4th Marine Division contributed a couple of infantry battalions, its recon battalion, and tank battalion to Operation Desert Storm and the push to Kuwait City. So, it's possible for your 1911 to have had one last hurrah in 1991.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:52 PM (z32fn)

128 9 mm suppressor responses, thx.
Rough price?

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 08:52 PM (30Gj0)

129 test

Posted by: Bond in Michigan at October 25, 2026 08:52 PM (yJcPp)

130 Since I started keeping a pistol in the console, drivers do not annoy me much.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 07:17 PM (rU0z4)

Well, they still annoy me, but they don't get my dander up as much. And I've commented before that carrying a gun mellows me out. It brings down the adrenaline and the level of ire because I know I'm equipped to end a life, and don't want to needlessly cause a situation where I have to do that.

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:52 PM (kU0PQ)

131 Thanks for that tip, whig. I'll check the action screw torque and mark them from now on.
Posted by: Gref

Most people don't have the old Mauser action screws (WWI era or before). Mauser has finely machined counter screws to hold the main screws in place. Elegant machining but simple marks do the same thing.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv)

132 how many shooters have we complained about who don't seem to care about others on the firing line"

Heh. That's why I ditched the "low recoil" device. Seemed to work, but the side vents really...projected. Not crowd friendly...

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:53 PM (pfXMo)

133 Hey, guys and gals. Apparently, trigger discipline isn't a thing over in the UK. Neither is pointing a gun at a fellow officer's junk.

https://tinyurl.com/mu99pzxn

BUT, you shouldn't point those things out because this woman officer is an award winning firearms expert.

Here's the full article at Shooting News Weekly.

https://tinyurl.com/2j46kwfk

You all may have commented on this previously. But, I just saw it over at Insty, and thought it relevant.

Posted by: Orson at October 25, 2026 08:54 PM (dIske)

134 For metal, Dykem marking fluid is the top but expensive for what you get and easy to make a mess with it.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)

135 Earlier this month, Husband and I both achieved Distinguished Expert rating in the NRA's Pistol Qualification. Both used .22 handguns. Now to start working on it with Glock 9mm's...
Posted by: Pat* at October 25, 2026 07:22 PM (D7fKa)

Well, hot diggety! Congrats.

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:54 PM (kU0PQ)

136 Simple thin crosshairs with minimal MOA reference marks
Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 08:43 PM (LRYfP)

Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 08:54 PM (z32fn)

137 You all may have commented on this previously. But, I just saw it over at Insty, and thought it relevant.
Posted by: Orson

Blowing up on X. And idiots keep arguing that it is on safe so it is okay or bringing up stupid comparisons with dry firing, cleaning and other stupid non sequitur statements.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:55 PM (E4rtv)

138 128 9 mm suppressor responses, thx.
Rough price?
Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 08:52 PM (30Gj0)

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$600-1200.

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 08:55 PM (oqH4h)

139 135 Earlier this month, Husband and I both achieved Distinguished Expert rating in the NRA's Pistol Qualification. Both used .22 handguns. Now to start working on it with Glock 9mm's...
Posted by: Pat*
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Can't be wobbly and get that award. Good for y'all.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)

140 Posted by: TxAnn at October 25, 2026 08:51 PM (itAg7)
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Glad you had a successful second trip!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 08:56 PM (otomx)

141 Will "No Wobbly Sh*t" have a "Fundamental of the Month" centerfold?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2026 07:40 PM (0sNs1)

"Wobbly" and "centerfold".... Is this a boob thread, now?

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 08:57 PM (kU0PQ)

142 On old iron sights, cheap and nasty fingernail polish in orange, yellow, or iridescent green can be applied to front and rear sights as well to make them pop"

Yep. Did lime green neon (I've long forgotten the actual color name) from an ex GF's dresser on an ancient Targetmaster...

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 08:57 PM (pfXMo)

143 Heh. That's why I ditched the "low recoil" device. Seemed to work, but the side vents really...projected. Not crowd friendly...
Posted by: man
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If not using a silencer, they make forward facing linear compensators that vent to the front rather than sides that make the blast better. Recommended especially for indoor ranges.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 08:59 PM (E4rtv)

144 No range report: sprained back Thanks Weasel

Posted by: Bond in Michigan at October 25, 2026 09:00 PM (yJcPp)

145 I think I only hit 200 once but I was happy. Love to see others hitting further out especially in that crazy wind. It was just really good to be out there.

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 25, 2026 08:45 PM (lOlUK)

Congratulations, SiD! Getting hits out to 200 is an achievement.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:00 PM (z32fn)

146 No range time for this week. Clearing the deck by expensive vet visit to a uni vet hospital for a doggie endoscopy. And this week is wife's first cataract surgery so busy doing everything to prepare.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv)

147 I guess the East Germans hadn't figured out that rule yet.
Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 07:43 PM (z32fn)

That was still a problem, though less so, in the mid-90s. And by then, the Poles were included in that, as well.

And now the autobahn has a speed limit. Ugh.

Posted by: GWB at October 25, 2026 09:02 PM (kU0PQ)

148 86 One thing to watch for in WWII era 1911's is that inductive heat treatment of the slide was used as a wartime expedient. Treat them gently as in no high power loads as the heat treatment can be spotty on some.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 07:41 PM (E4rtv)

IIRC, heat treatment was applied to the slide stop notch and the front end of the slide. Hardening of the front end of slide began with the 1940 Army contract for 4,696 pistols. Colt began heat treating the slide stop notch in early 1943 (circa above SN# 880,000). These will show as discoloration between these locations and the rest of slide. Refinished slides usually have more prominent discolorations, probably due to the refinishing process. Check these locations for cracking because these are known high stress locations on the 1911's slide. Any evidence of cracking should make you retire that slide from any further use. My CMP 1911 is a 1943 Colt

Posted by: Bond in Michigan at October 25, 2026 09:02 PM (yJcPp)

149 You all may have commented on this previously. But, I just saw it over at Insty, and thought it relevant.
Posted by: Orson

Holy crap.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:03 PM (+ZF0K)

150 You all may have commented on this previously. But, I just saw it over at Insty, and thought it relevant.
Posted by: Orson at October 25, 2026 08:54 PM (dIske)

Looks like the Met has switched from the MP5/SP5 platform to a variant of the AR-15. MP5/SP5 SMGs and carbines were the standard issue weapon for the Met's armed officers since the 1980s.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:03 PM (z32fn)

151 Speaking of muzzle devices...

I got invited to a range on a military installation to go shoot some cool guy weapons once, back in the day.

They had a Barrett M109 set up on a bench where the muzzle of the gun ends up being at about waist level. Iconic big old muzzle brake with ports at 45 degrees facing backward.

I highly recommend not standing just off the shooter's side where that backward-firing gas intercepts you right at crotch level. Just saying.

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 09:04 PM (oqH4h)

152 Gotta turn in early tonight.
Thx, Weasel, et al. Glad TX was a success.
Now, everybody go practice!

The final exam may be scheduled early.

Posted by: RI Red at October 25, 2026 09:04 PM (LMRVO)

153 they make forward facing linear compensators that vent to the front rather than sides that make the blast better"

Yeah. I had never used the "side firing" design... the thing nearly scared me! Went back and switched to SF3...

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 09:05 PM (pfXMo)

154 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at October 25, 2026 09:05 PM (77rzZ)

155 Ed L - the reticle I use in my Nightforce scopes is the MOAR-T. When I see the ridiculously complex reticles I am reminded of the overly complicated fishing lures designed to catch fisherman rather than fish.

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:06 PM (30WOE)

156 But, I just saw it over at Insty, and thought it relevant.
Posted by: Orson"

Holy.....cow!

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 09:06 PM (pfXMo)

157 Is it OK to bring up boobs on the gun thread?

Posted by: Bulg at October 25, 2026 09:07 PM (77rzZ)

158 Yeah. I had never used the "side firing" design... the thing nearly scared me! Went back and switched to SF3...
Posted by: man

I use linear comps on rifles that I have to shoot inside, they do nothing for recoil but are much kinder to people around you on the firing line as it sends the blast downrange mostly rather than to the sides. Indoor shooting next to some dude shooting an AR-10 in 308 with a muzzle brake once made me vacate that lane pronto. Unpleasant as heck.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:07 PM (E4rtv)

159 Thanks, nurse and Ed! Hadn't fired it in 2 years. Now I'm more motivated to get it set up for me and practice. So I don't forget how it works again.

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 25, 2026 09:08 PM (lOlUK)

160 I think the ACOG inverted chevron reticle and BDC markings are as close to perfect as possible for a battle rifle.

I think you could do more with more in a long range precision rifle.

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 09:08 PM (oqH4h)

161 I've never been bothered by people shooting big stuff indoors. I'm going to a gun range, there are going to be loud noises, and if I'm indoors I'm doubling up my ear pro anyway. As long as nobody's being a retard on the safety rules (which is basically never so I avoid indoor ranges almost entirely), I consider it part of the experience. I've shot suppressed .22lr next to a dude with an AR-10 with an FRT. Whatever.

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 09:11 PM (oqH4h)

162 PICK!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:11 PM (0mizX)

163 Reminder for next year - no muzzle brakes on the firing line at the TXMoMe. Thanks

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:12 PM (30WOE)

164 they do nothing for recoil"

Frankly, there just isn't much/ any real recoil improvement over the standard birdcage or multi prong, IMHO....
Maybe on an ultra light build, but on a 7 lb or so AR? Doubt it.
Lesson learned.

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 09:13 PM (pfXMo)

165 Posted by: Bond in Michigan at October 25, 2026 09:02 PM (yJcPp)

If your slide is a Colt slide, Colt slides had serial numbers underneath the firing pin stop. Colt did this for 1911A1s starting in 1924 though circa SN# 1,145,000 (mid-1944). To see the serial number, you'll have to CAREFULLY remove the firing pin stop by pressing down on the firing pin with a punch, allowing the firing pin stop to be removed from the top of the slide. SLOWLY let up on the pressure when you're done. Do the same thing in reverse to put the firing pin stop back when you're done. The firing pin spring is under a fair amount of pressure, so don't lose your firing pin!

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:15 PM (z32fn)

166 ACOG inverted chevron reticle"

Otherwise known as "bullet goes here" indicator...

Posted by: man at October 25, 2026 09:15 PM (pfXMo)

167 OK, 9:17 thank you time!

Thank you!

Appreciate all y'all being here tonight and participating in the conversation. Hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:17 PM (30WOE)

168 Hi TxAnn, great to meet you at the MoMe, really hope you come back next year. And your cookies were absolutely fabulous! Thanks.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 25, 2026 09:18 PM (XfIK1)

169 161 I've never been bothered by people shooting big stuff indoors. I'm going to a gun range, there are going to be loud noises, and if I'm indoors I'm doubling up my ear pro anyway. As long as nobody's being a retard on the safety rules (which is basically never so I avoid indoor ranges almost entirely), I consider it part of the experience. I've shot suppressed .22lr next to a dude with an AR-10 with an FRT. Whatever.
Posted by: ballistic

Muzzle brakes are not pleasant to be around nor conducive to good shooting. Anything that can cause a flinch can create a similar situation to the yips in putting.

Fortunately, I look forward to an era of cheap and easy to obtain suppressors for rifles and that will help the problem a lot on indoor ranges.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

170 Always doubled up at indoor ranges (don't belong to one currently), but if a very loud rifle came in, I took a break, or cut short my session. No need to have those impulses traveling to my ears via my skull. Happened rarely. Was a member so cutting a session short didn't cost me anything.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 09:19 PM (U/Byj)

171 Thanks for hosting, Weasel, and for your advice about scope reticles!

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:19 PM (z32fn)

172 Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:19 PM (z32fn)
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Anytime. Happy to discuss!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:20 PM (30WOE)

173 Thanks to you Weasel as the gunfather and creator of the thread.

Burning any rolled dried cured black tobacco item tonight?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 09:20 PM (U/Byj)

174 Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 09:20 PM (U/Byj)
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My pleasure. Just fired up the old standby FS!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:21 PM (30WOE)

175 Fortunately, I look forward to an era of cheap and easy to obtain suppressors for rifles and that will help the problem a lot on indoor ranges.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

Having shot an H&K MR762A4 SBR "assaulter" (13" barrel) suppressed and indoors, I can testify a good suppressor really does make a difference when it comes to muzzle blast and flash.

Posted by: Ed L at October 25, 2026 09:22 PM (z32fn)

176 Frankly, there just isn't much/ any real recoil improvement over the standard birdcage or multi prong, IMHO....
Maybe on an ultra light build, but on a 7 lb or so AR? Doubt it.
Lesson learned.
Posted by: man

The prong design by Smith Industries taken from the original AR design is probably the best flash hider around but obviously nothing for recoil. The later A1 and A2 birdcage flash hiders had this difference, the A1 birdcage was not timed and it would tend to throw up dirt clouds when shooting prone and if it was dry .

The A2 is timed and directs the blast up with where the ports are supposed to be in the down direction gone. So fine for prone shooting but often you have to use barrel shims for the A2 flashider to get it correctly oriented.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)

177 Yeah of course YMMV. I just don't particularly care. I work my course of fire in between homeboy two bays over turning $200 of ammo into noise and holes in paper.

If I'm really working on my game I take the time to drive 1.5 hours out to an outdoor range where I can get my very own bay and the nearest gun is ~100 yards to either side.

Posted by: ballistic at October 25, 2026 09:23 PM (oqH4h)

178 And ditto thanks to Weasel and the commenters here for the happy times on the Gun Thread.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:23 PM (E4rtv)

179 33 Try not to ride any poorly-secured, wobbly chairs backwards onto the concrete

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 25, 2026 07:14 PM
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Sounds like a feature for Wobbly Shit Monthly Magazine.
Posted by: TRex - editor in chief and publisher dino at October 25, 2026 07:21 PM (XfIK1)

Even worse, the carport was declared a No Wobbly Shit Zone. I The clumsy guy with the chair didn't realize how many laws were being violated, but the law of gravity was not one of those.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 25, 2026 09:24 PM (xVpNO)

180 Having shot an H&K MR762A4 SBR "assaulter" (13" barrel) suppressed and indoors, I can testify a good suppressor really does make a difference when it comes to muzzle blast and flash.
Posted by: Ed L
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7.62x51 in a short barrel is kind of a why do that question but yeah, I can see where the blast and flash would be miserable without a suppressor.

A lot of what the military does is kludges to get around the fact that logistics dictates what ammo they can use along with intl law. Fortunately civilians can safely ignore that and pick what is optimal for our own use.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:27 PM (E4rtv)

181 Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel. Signing off.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2026 09:32 PM (raF1/)

182 Adios RMBS!

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2026 09:34 PM (r8KQ7)

183 Oh, did mean to tell folks that I took down about 300 rounds of dubious 308 cartridges using the Frankford Arsenal's pile driver. Bullets came out pristine, all of the bullets came out in three pulls of the spring loaded lever, most in two. Greatest time sink was removing the empty cartridge from the carrier and you can see why they make cheap replaceable carriers. This sort of inertial bullet puller is ideally suited for rifle rounds without massive crimps leaving the bullet and the brass pristine for reloading. 300 rounds took about 90 minutes when all is said and done.

But the Piledriver is probably not suited for the 44 Magnums that I have to demob next. Will use a crimp collet bullet puller on that. I prefer Hornady's as easier to use but have used the RCBS with a center spindle to crank down the collet.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:34 PM (E4rtv)

184 Thanks Weasel. Burned a My Father Honduras Blue pre-thread. Very nice stick.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 09:35 PM (U/Byj)

185 I can also see the Pile Driver useful for taking down semi auto pistol cartridges too fwiw.

Collet bullet pullers on a press and the Pile Driver are both easier on my hands nowadays than the old inertial hammer type bullet puller.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:36 PM (E4rtv)

186 Thank you Horde and thank you Weasel!

Posted by: TRex - unwobbly dino at October 25, 2026 09:37 PM (XfIK1)

187 Welp, getting quiet so I will say adieu and wish a pleasant evening for everyone.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:37 PM (E4rtv)

188 whig fortunately I've only had to take down occasional rounds (my own screw-ups), never a bulk size of "unknowns" or other large scale disassembly. Use the impact/hammer puller usually. Do have one press-mounted puller for the 30-06, thankfully haven't used it much.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2026 09:37 PM (U/Byj)

189 Hey, Ed! Aloha!

Posted by: Bulg at October 25, 2026 09:37 PM (77rzZ)

190 Thanks for hosting, Weasel. Good night to all good little gun-rons everywhere.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 09:37 PM (vTZFs)

191 One last thing, Smith and Wesson just announced buying Savage Arms this week and it is likely that Ruger is getting acquired by Beretta.

That probably means those discontinued products list last week may be permanently discontinued.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:38 PM (E4rtv)

192 That probably means those discontinued products list last week may be permanently discontinued.

Gotta admit that that doesn't make any sense to me but that's probably why I'm not an MBA.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2026 09:39 PM (vTZFs)

193 188 whig fortunately I've only had to take down occasional rounds (my own screw-ups), never a bulk size of "unknowns" or other large scale disassembly. Use the impact/hammer puller usually. Do have one press-mounted puller for the 30-06, thankfully haven't used it much.
Posted by: rhomboid

If you have to take down a lot of rifle or semi auto pistol rounds and need a pristine bullet, the Pile Driver works as a giant inertial bullet puller.

Collet bullet pullers can mark a bullet pretty bad on removal and that can seriously affect rifle bullets in particular as they often have thin copper jackets. Not as big of an issue with handgun rounds but can affect feeding for some semi autos if reusing the bullets. And lead bullets are often toast when crimped and trying to remove via a collet or a inertial but the inertial sucks less I guess.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:42 PM (E4rtv)

194 So goodnight again.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:42 PM (E4rtv)

195 Short

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:44 PM (yEz+x)

196 191 One last thing, Smith and Wesson just announced buying Savage Arms this week

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2026 09:38 PM
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Wonder if that means Savage manufacturing will be moving to the S&W facility in Tennessee. Wondering...for reasons...

Posted by: TRex - moving coordinator dino at October 25, 2026 09:44 PM (XfIK1)

197 Let’s get to 200

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:45 PM (yEz+x)

198 Go go go

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:45 PM (yEz+x)

199 Just little more

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:45 PM (yEz+x)

200 Whoot!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:45 PM (yEz+x)

201 *exhales*

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2026 09:46 PM (yEz+x)

202 Planning to go to the range next Saturday weather permitting, but went to the local gunshow last week and purchased an RXM and a Springfield 2020 bolt action 22. Bought the latter since it takes 10/22 mags and has a threaded barrel, which my 10/22 doesn't. Hoping the accuracy is better than some of the online reviews show. If it is, this will be my suppressed groundhog killer. If not, it might become someone else's.

Also loaded up some .38 special today and need to finish the brass prep on my batch of 300 Blackout so I can tumble those clean and load them up for subsonic testing with the suppressors I've bought recently.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at October 25, 2026 09:47 PM (jSGfc)

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