Maryland Man Uses Sledgehammer to Behead Iwo Jima Statue at the Marines' Quantico Base

It's almost as if this illegal alien is trying to send us a message about his view of America as an enemy nation that needs to be conquered and pillaged.

A 27-year-old man accused of using a sledgehammer to decapitate a soldier on the Iwo Jima statue and cause extensive damage to the monument at Marine Corps Base Quantico is living in the U.S. illegally, Fox News reports.
Fox News congressional correspondent Bill Melugin reported that multiple federal sources confirmed Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano is a Mexican national living in the country illegally. Melugin reported that Maldonado Soriano is a former Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipient whose legal status expired earlier this year.
According to federal sources, Melugin said Maldonado Soriano entered the U.S. illegally in December 1999. He was granted temporary protection under the Obama administration's DACA immigration policy in 2014 and received multiple extensions, most recently from the Biden administration in 2024. Melugin reported that Maldonado Soriano lost his DACA status in August after it was not renewed by the Trump administration.
Officers responded around 10:13 p.m. Wednesday to the statue near Richmond Highway and Fuller Road in Quantico, where they found Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano, of Stafford, actively damaging the structure, according to police. Maldonado Soriano was quickly detained at the scene.
Damage to the monument, which included the removal of one depicted soldier's head along with additional destruction, is estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, police say.
Maldonado Soriano was arrested and charged with felony destruction of property, trespassing with intent to damage property, and felony injury to a monument.

So which is this one -- a Doctor or an Engineer?

Virginia is a sanctuary state now that the "moderate" CIA Wine-Aunt was elected to the governor's mansion. The leftwing lunatic and Soros DA Steve Descano of Fairfax County continues treating actual American citizens more harshly than illegal aliens, because he doesn't want to convict any illegal aliens of crimes for which they may be deported.

The Fairfax County Sheriff's Office in Virginia ignored at least 1,670 immigration detainers from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement between 2023 and 2025, releasing criminal illegal immigrants back into the community instead of transferring them to federal custody, according to a new House Judiciary Committee report.
The interim staff report -- obtained by Fox News before its noon Tuesday release by the committee's Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, Security and Enforcement -- also accuses Fairfax County Commonwealth's Attorney Steve Descano of treating illegal immigrant defendants differently from similarly situated American citizens to limit their immigration consequences.
"This interim report provides evidence of the ways in which just one local jurisdiction has implemented policies that allow dangerous foreign nationals to reoffend and avoid deportation," the report, issued under House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, Security, and Enforcement Chair Tom McClintock, R-Calif., concluded.

"But Fairfax County and prosecutor Steve Descano are not outliers. They are indicative of a modern, radical, socialist Democrat Party that seeks to erase national borders and place illegal alien criminals ahead of law-abiding American citizens," the report added. "The policies supported by these Democrats, including sanctuary policies, will have negative and lasting consequences for Americans. The Committee and Subcommittee will continue to conduct oversight of these sanctuary policies to inform potential legislative reforms to better protect American communities."
The committee said a preliminary review of more than 1,100 criminal cases identified more than 100 previously unreported illegal immigrants who benefited from Descano's prosecutorial decisions. The report said Descano's office rarely pursued charges against illegal immigrants accused of crimes including driving under the influence, felony drug possession, felony grand larceny, shoplifting, fraud, trespassing, destruction of property and assaulting a law enforcement officer.
The committee accused Descano's office of "de facto" decriminalizing some offenses and said most of the defendants reviewed went on to reoffend, in some cases escalating to violent crimes and murder.
The report, titled "Fairfax County, Virginia: The dangerous consequences of sanctuary policies," also alleges that Descano misled Congress about the scope of his policies.
"The Biden-Harris Administration worked to weaken the first Trump Administration's efforts to hold sanctuary jurisdictions accountable for undermining immigration enforcement," the report read. "In addition to dropping federal litigation relating to sanctuary jurisdictions' policies, the Biden-Harris Administration's Justice Department, beginning in April 2021, no longer required jurisdictions to cooperate with ICE as a condition of receiving federal grant funding."

During testimony before the committee in May, Descano said his policy was "written with legal permanent residents in mind for minor crimes." But in a September letter, the committee said Descano acknowledged that prosecutors could consider immigration consequences in cases involving illegal immigrants as well.
Descano's campaign website previously stated that when "possible," his office would "make charging and plea decisions that limit or avoid immigration consequences." He also argued that "if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County.
The committee cited numerous cases in which it said criminal defendants benefited from reduced or dismissed charges. In one example, prosecutors allegedly reduced felony charges involving the sexual assault of a child to misdemeanor "consensual sex with a child" and offered a 90-day suspended jail sentence.

Just some light "consensual" sex with a minor.

And note this was a plea -- the actual charge was sexual assault. Involuntary sex with a child.

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One case involved Marvin Morales-Ortez, an alleged MS-13 member whose charges were dropped before the Fairfax County Sheriff's Office released him in December 2025. The report said Morales-Ortez allegedly murdered a man in Reston, Virginia, one day later.
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The report highlighted the case of Stephanie Minter, who was fatally stabbed in February. The suspect, Abdul Jalloh, is an illegal immigrant with more than 40 prior charges in Fairfax County. The committee said Descano's office had dropped charges against Jalloh in almost every case and that police warned prosecutors before the killing that "it is not a question of if, but rather when [Jalloh] will maliciously wound -- or worse -- again."
Cheryl Minter, Stephanie's mother, told the committee that "a system failed my daughter."
"When policies protect people who are a known threat, innocent lives are put at risk," she said. "When warnings are ignored, families like mine pay the price."

NEW: Multiple federal sources confirm to @FoxNews that the suspect arrested for using a sledgehammer to behead a WW2 Iwo Jima monument in Quantico, VA on Tuesday is a Mexican illegal alien & former DACA recipient whose legal status expired this year.
Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano has now been charged with felony destruction of property and trespass with intent to damage property.
Per federal sources, Soriano illegally crossed into the U.S. in December 1999. He was granted DACA by the Obama administration in 2014 and had it extended for years, most recently by the Biden admin in 2024, but he lost his DACA status in August of this year when it wasn’t renewed by the Trump administration.
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) October 23, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:08 PM

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1 So the anti-fascists have moved on to attacking statues of the men that fought against the fascists in WWII

Seems on point.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:08 PM (sKqQm)

2 1

Posted by: doug at October 23, 2026 12:08 PM (B1+sW)

3 >>>So the anti-fascists have moved on to attacking statues of the men that fought against the fascists in WWII

I don't want to spread any RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORIES but I'm starting to think that these "anti-fascists" are actually pro-fascism.

Don't cancel me. I'm just thinking out loud.

Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:09 PM (1wjle)

4 This is because Trump cut scholarships for DEI and his application to be a doctor of nuclear medicine was rejected.

We need to give more opportunities for more of these future doctors and scientists to come to America and learn.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 23, 2026 12:10 PM (3cUTc)

5 Some people did some things

Posted by: Brofo at October 23, 2026 12:10 PM (sKqQm)

6 "Maryland Man." Say no more. Deport via Aero Pinochet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 23, 2026 12:10 PM (KRh8R)

7 Didn't Matt Yglesias write a book about how the right was the American Taliban because we were opposed to abortion?

Does he consider the left the American ISIS because they are hell bent on destroying the statues and iconography of the nation through it's invasion force of non-native populations?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:10 PM (U/SFE)

8 behead them fuckers

Posted by: doug at October 23, 2026 12:10 PM (B1+sW)

9 3 I don't want to spread any RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORIES but I'm starting to think that these "anti-fascists" are actually pro-fascism.

Don't cancel me. I'm just thinking out loud.

Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:09 PM (1wjle)

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"By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come."
-George Orwell, 1944

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:11 PM (U/SFE)

10 Fox News congressional correspondent Bill Melugin reported that multiple federal sources confirmed Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano is a Mexican national living in the country illegally.

Anyone else tired of being culturally enriched yet?

Gotta say I think my own taco recipe is good enough and I can make one at 3 AM if I really wanted to...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:11 PM (sKqQm)

11 Enjoy Mexico, Miguel.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (1SRrH)

12 Drop him in the middle of the parade ground at 8th & I and tell him if he makes it to the gate he can leave.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (2UnvF)

13 Cato just came out with a study that shows Marvin Morales-Ortez paid $10 billion in taxes and never committed any other crime in his life.

They say he is a better American than those born here.

And you're racist if you doubt them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (3cUTc)

14 Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano should be forced to rent out his mouth and asshole in the prison shower until he's made enough money to repair the statue.

$20 a pop, same as in town.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

15 I volunteer to reciprocate on this guy. I'll bring my own hammer too.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (2WIwB)

16 I don't want to spread any RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORIES but I'm starting to think that these "anti-fascists" are actually pro-fascism.

Don't cancel me. I'm just thinking out loud.

Doubtful. These imbeciles don't have anything that could be remotely construed as a political philosophy. They just like busting stuff up and attacking people.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (Riz8t)

17 >>>Cato just came out with a study that shows Marvin Morales-Ortez paid $10 billion in taxes and never committed any other crime in his life.
They say he is a better American than those born here.
And you're racist if you doubt them.

This is only a 5% parody.

Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (1wjle)

18 13 Cato just came out with a study that shows Marvin Morales-Ortez paid $10 billion in taxes and never committed any other crime in his life.

They say he is a better American than those born here.

And you're racist if you doubt them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 23, 2026 12:12 PM (3cUTc)

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"On average, illegal immigrants make love to my wife better than the average American man: me."
-David Bier

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (U/SFE)

19 Behead the beheader. I HATE these invaders.

Posted by: Pamazon at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (b5MGU)

20 Whatta dick

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (Hz6ZN)

21 Willowed:

I can make Weasel's eyes twitch:

https://tinyurl.com/yucd6t9f

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (xg/DD)

22 if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County . ------

Retardo it's impossible they commit the same crime because being in the country is illegal thus one has committed a different crime that requires deportation.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (Ti9vn)

23 A sledgehammer to the gonads would fix a multiplicity of problems like ghey Miguel.

Posted by: fly gal at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (b/YnV)

24 >>> Elric The Blade

did i mess you up by posting at 12:07 instead of 12:10?

Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (1wjle)

25 Didn't Matt Yglesias write a book about how the right was the American Taliban because we were opposed to abortion?

Not that he actually did any thinking in saying that, but IIRC elective abortion was banned both by the Taliban and the Northern Alliance. I think it is illegal under the PA and Hamas as well

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:14 PM (sKqQm)

26 22 if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County . ------

Retardo it's impossible they commit the same crime because being in the country is illegal thus one has committed a different crime that requires deportation.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (Ti9vn)

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His solution is to give the illegal no punishment at all while actually punishing the native.

Curious how that double standard doesn't seem to both him when he's talking about how much double standards bother him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:14 PM (U/SFE)

27 3 >>>So the anti-fascists have moved on to attacking statues of the men that fought against the fascists in WWII

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Succinctly said.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:14 PM (iOpI2)

28 if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County . ------

I'd be ok with hanging anyone that attacks a WWII memorial, citizen or no

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (sKqQm)

29 I don't want to spread any RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORIES but I'm starting to think that these "anti-fascists" are actually pro-fascism.

Ace, if you missed it, the woman that runs the EU now says that Putin and Russia caused them to import all the Muslims. I guess he's more powerful than Soros.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (2ocoG)

30 Team Red better get it in gear and win elections in Virginia again up and down the ticket.
Or bleed to death.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (8OLq1)

31 just throw him in a Marine platoon's squad bay, everything will work itself out

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (XAOum)

32 "I shall protest against imperialism by attacking the monuments of the men who fought back Japanese imperialism."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (U/SFE)

33 Free ~~Palestine Iwo Jima!~~

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (HD2n/)

34 I'd be ok with hanging anyone that attacks a WWII memorial, citizen or no

I suggest we give him a long stick and make him find and clean up unexploded ordinance on Iwo.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (Riz8t)

35 just throw him in a Marine platoon's squad bay, everything will work itself out
Posted by: UGAdawg at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (XAOum)

You're damn right I ordered a code red !

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:16 PM (Ti9vn)

36 Well dang, that un-strikethru didn't work.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2026 12:16 PM (HD2n/)

37 The former district attorney for Portland's county had an explicit policy of undercharging illegals so they wouldn't get deported.

Lots of Democratic jurisdictions have similar policies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 23, 2026 12:16 PM (aD4fx)

38 35 just throw him in a Marine platoon's squad bay, everything will work itself out
Posted by: UGAdawg at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (XAOum)

You're damn right I ordered a code red !

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:16 PM (Ti9vn)

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"I didn't have to order anything, actually."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:16 PM (U/SFE)

39 Team Red better get it in gear and win elections in Virginia again up and down the ticket.
Or bleed to death.

What do you suggest, nuke NoVa?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

40 The former district attorney for Portland's county had an explicit policy of undercharging illegals so they wouldn't get deported.

Walz pardoned a pedo to try and stop him from being deported.

Guess he figured they had too much in common to let something happen to him...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:17 PM (sKqQm)

41 What do you suggest, nuke NoVa?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

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Stop teasing!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (2UnvF)

42 He's just upset that the photo (upon which the statue was based) was staged.

(No, really: The photographer missed the moment they raised the flag the first time, so he asked to raise it again, so he could photograph it.)

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (HD2n/)

43 Elric The Blade

did i mess you up by posting at 12:07 instead of 12:10?
Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (1wjle)
_________

[Smirking]

I can't give away any secrets ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

44
Yes, but Trump wants to rename it "Gulf of America"!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (eRlcH)

45 Afternoon ace.
Watching Descano favor illegal immigrant criminals, I got to thinking: what would be the reaction if a family member of a Dem office holder was killed by an illegal? First would be blame Trump. Would it cause a re-evaluation of their political position? Doubtful

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (vJPf4)

46 39 Team Red better get it in gear and win elections in Virginia again up and down the ticket.
Or bleed to death.

What do you suggest, nuke NoVa?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

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Well, if the rurals decided to turn out at presidential levels every year...

But that's on them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (U/SFE)

47 I hope someone in the same jail will take an interest in this filthy bug. And by interest, I mean violence.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (iOpI2)

48 is a Mexican illegal alien & former DACA recipient whose legal status expired this year.

Actually, his legal status expired in 1999 when he broke into this country.

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (IYMzU)

49 42 He's just upset that the photo (upon which the statue was based) was staged.

(No, really: The photographer missed the moment they raised the flag the first time, so he asked to raise it again, so he could photograph it.)

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (HD2n/)

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Clint Eastwood made a whole movie about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (U/SFE)

50 The enemies within.

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (KDeM8)

51 With all of the confederate statues around, he had many better targets for his rage.

They are going to lock him in a cell and throw away the cell. Shame they can't do that to the child rapists and the people stealing America's wealth and democracy

You can't change history that easy, or trump would have done it by now.

False flag operation. Get an immigrant to destroy prideful American history so Trump and FoxNews can complain how the left hates America and loves crime,

It's not that I don't care, it's just like, okay is this different from Hegseth on any given Thursday as far as fucking something up? Like at least this wasn't a wing of the white house?

Like got more important things to be mad about at this point.

Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.

Held without bond is stupid.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (5F8Fj)

52 Why are any Federal monies going to any state, county, or citty,that refuses to support the Fed LEOs?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 23, 2026 12:19 PM (NnhvP)

53 Trump renames the Pacific as "The American Ocean."

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2026 12:19 PM (HD2n/)

54 51
Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.

Held without bond is stupid.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (5F8Fj)

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"I didn't fight WWII against Germany so that the American president would buy oil from a post-Soviet Russia."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (U/SFE)

55 Yglesias is a dishonest, low-watt hack.

I will deny him my well.

Posted by: it outs the lotion in the basket at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (UhWEA)

56 "and cause extensive damage to the monument at Marine Corps Base Quantico"

How did this slimy cockroach get on a Marine Corps base in the first place????

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

57 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

I would be all for making his head taken off as well

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (x4FpI)

58 Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (5F8Fj

I'm convinced all these posters are in Bellevue and the psychiatrists post their ramblings.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (Ti9vn)

59 About 13% of the citizens in NOVA work for Uncle Sugar. And of course many of those working in the area also work for business supported by Uncle Sugar employees. So this is the problem, this gives a comfortable margin of victory for Dems since of course these people are going to try and vote themselves more money every election

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (sKqQm)

60 Behead the beheader. I HATE these invaders.
Posted by: Pamazon at October 23, 2026 12:13 PM (b5MGU)

Precisely. Let the punishment fit the crime.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (ZgwKJ)

61 Walz pardoned a pedo to try and stop him from being deported.

I don't understand why the Federal government tolerates this - they are not obligated to accept local jurisdictions undercharging illegals.

If a local jurisdiction does this, deport them anyway.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (aD4fx)

62 Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.

Held without bond is stupid.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2026 12:18 PM (5F8Fj)

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Yea? On which side?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (iFTx/)

63 All the gains Trump has made on enforcing the border, but voters only care that it costs $10 more to fill their tank.

As if Dems getting Congress fixes this.

Posted by: Sharpie at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (qXZ9A)

64 Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

I believe it's outside the gates.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (Ti9vn)

65 False flag operation. Get an immigrant to destroy prideful American history so Trump and FoxNews can complain how the left hates America and loves crime,

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WTF do they mean by "prideful American history "?

It's a historical statue that absolutely represents the pride of America.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (iOpI2)

66 I'd deport this guy alright. To Africa.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (UhWEA)

67 Don't cancel me. I'm just thinking out loud.
Posted by: ace at October 23, 2026 12:09 PM (1wjle)

ace, I hate to break this to you, but I think you started out canceled.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:22 PM (Y/06r)

68 They are going to lock him in a cell and throw away the cell. Shame they can't do that to the child rapists and the people stealing America's wealth and democracy

To re-iterate no one on the left...no one...believes their opponents are pedos.

This all comes from seeing how much Dem leaders and activists being friendly with Epstein hurt them in the 2024 election.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

69 Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.----

You mean he wasn't t upset to cozying up to Japan?

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:22 PM (Ti9vn)

70 WTF do they mean by "prideful American history "?

It's a historical statue that absolutely represents the pride of America.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM (iOpI2)

Yeah, but they see our cultural chauvinism as gauche.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:23 PM (Y/06r)

71 #39
I suggest that every damned weekend thousands of Team Red walk neighborhoods and door knock for reliable conservative candidates. It starts with the state RNC..IN EVERY STATE.
They have good reasons for getting turn out.
Or just continue to die at the hands of psychopathic murderous drunk killers.

I BETCHA they choose death.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2026 12:23 PM (8OLq1)

72 This pisses me off beyond belief. Having been stationed at Quantico for 3 of my years in the Marine Corps, I admired that statue every time I drove by. The Battle of Iwo Jima is sacred to Marines as is the depiction of the famous Mt. Suribachi flag raising. I'd give anything for 5 minutes alone with this scum.

Posted by: USMCMGB at October 23, 2026 12:23 PM (e+Rw4)

73 All the gains Trump has made on enforcing the border, but voters only care that it costs $10 more to fill their tank.

As if Dems getting Congress fixes this

This is one reason I suspect Reps will actually add to their margin in congress.

Even the most low information voter there is knows voting for Dems isn't going to lower the cost of gas.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (sKqQm)

74 Why do all the weirdos assault statues? Is it simply that they’re cowards and statues can’t fight back?

Posted by: MJ at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (XOmY9)

75 >>I'm convinced all these posters are in Bellevue and the psychiatrists post their ramblings.

'I booked her on a 614 and turned her over to the psychiatrists.'

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (NcvvS)

76
former DACA recipient

Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer
Well, can you put your hands in your head? Oh no!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (Cqx++)

77 The base is the site of the HMX-1 presidential helicopter squadron, the FBI Academy, the FBI Laboratory, the Marine Corps Combat Development Command, the Officer Candidates School, The Basic School, the United States Drug Enforcement Administration training academy, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, the United States Army Criminal Investigation Division, and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations headquarters.

Does not seem to be a sanctury city! An illegal doesn't go there to do this. A highly paid operative risking his life does.

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (IYMzU)

78 I got gas at the kroger last night for 3.45 (50 cents off for last months purchases.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (Y/06r)

79 WTF do they mean by "prideful American history "?

I think it was a semi-illiterate mistake.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (Ti9vn)

80 Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.

I had an uncle who was a Navy corpsman with the Marines in the South Pacific, and never recovered psychologically from the terrible experiences that he had there.

Hang this guy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (aD4fx)

81 Just one example:

Buchanan County, VA.

Turnout statewide in the 2025 election was about 58%.

Buchanan? 38%.

It's a small county, but rurals don't turn out. It's a tiny county whose biggest city is about 800 people, but it's R+36 on PVI. Total population is about 18,000.

It's one of about 3 dozen small rurals that could have had 80% turnout because they hated Democrats so much but instead had below average turnout instead.

How do you move a population like that organizationally (not excusing the VAGOP, they seem to suck, but this is a real issue) when the central population hub is 800 people?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (U/SFE)

82 75 >>I'm convinced all these posters are in Bellevue and the psychiatrists post their ramblings.

'I booked her on a 614 and turned her over to the psychiatrists.'
Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (NcvvS)

Joe Friday would not put up with this shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (Y/06r)

83 Yeah, my grandpa was on Iwo. I’m pretty sure he’d be more upset by our cozying up to Russia and NK than a half-size monument replica at Quantico.----

You mean he wasn't t upset to cozying up to Japan?

My grandfather fought in the pacific though not on Iwo Jima and supposedly saw some pretty horrible things. He passed away before I became old enough to understand politics but my grandmother had a burning hate for Japan until the day she died.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (sKqQm)

84 72 This pisses me off beyond belief. Having been stationed at Quantico for 3 of my years in the Marine Corps, I admired that statue every time I drove by. The Battle of Iwo Jima is sacred to Marines as is the depiction of the famous Mt. Suribachi flag raising. I'd give anything for 5 minutes alone with this scum.
Posted by: USMCMGB at October 23, 2026 12:23 PM (e+Rw4)

------

This is what I meant upthread. I hope some poor Marine in the same jail after an exciting night out will take an interest in this POS. Make sure the cameras are disabled or other inmates position themselves in just the right way.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (iOpI2)

85 74 Why do all the weirdos assault statues? Is it simply that they’re cowards and statues can’t fight back?

Posted by: MJ at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (XOmY9)

None of the statues have sex holes.
This enrages the chimp.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 23, 2026 12:26 PM (UhWEA)

86 I need to rewatch the Dragnet movie. So good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:26 PM (Y/06r)

87 73
This is one reason I suspect Reps will actually add to their margin in congress.

Even the most low information voter there is knows voting for Dems isn't going to lower the cost of gas.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:24 PM (sKqQm)

========

Also, gas prices don't materially affect election outcomes. Never have.

https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2097832343964668203

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:26 PM (U/SFE)

88 The Left choice of weapons are knives and hammers. That will eventually prove to be a mistake.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:26 PM (Ti9vn)

89 A beheading?

I say, let the punishment fit the crime!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 23, 2026 12:27 PM (HlyYF)

90
How do you move a population like that organizationally (not excusing the VAGOP, they seem to such, but this is a real issue) when the central population hub is 800 people?

Easiest way? Give them a concrete pay out if they do vote R. Something Trump has been trying to build.

Because this is how Dems get people to the polls - "vote for us and you get paid"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:27 PM (sKqQm)

91 >>Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:25 PM (Y/06r)

In this case , the officer was Wednesday.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:27 PM (NcvvS)

92 He is not a Maryland man. He is not a Virginia man. He is a Mexican. He is not a United State citizen. He was told to leave the country. Instead he threw a hissy fit and caused a lot of expensive damage. He is not supposed to be here. These stupid laws or statutes or whatever crap they pass in DC need to scrapped. These people need to be kicked out of this country. They are not entitled to be here. Round them all up and kick their asses out of the country. We have enough of our own sorry ass people we have to deal with.

Posted by: Case at October 23, 2026 12:28 PM (Dd7BU)

93 "Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano."

Sounds Amish.

Posted by: Casual observer at October 23, 2026 12:28 PM (yTY59)

94 Virginia is a sanctuary state
That encourages raping children.
Maryland Man, sledgehammer in hand
Should be sent to the governor’s mansion.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 12:28 PM (kYmoU)

95 Remember when a guy in KS got 19 years for stealing a gay flag? I suspect this guy's punishment will be a lot less

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (sKqQm)

96 90 Easiest way? Give them a concrete pay out if they do vote R. Something Trump has been trying to build.

Because this is how Dems get people to the polls - "vote for us and you get paid"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:27 PM (sKqQm)

========

It'd work better than almost anything else.

But, the problem is ultimately cultural. They just don't consider voting very important. They live in the sticks. Their government is their local sheriff. The governor for most of them might as well be in a different state or country.

To address it is a generational issue, not one fixed with a quick promise of $5,000 tax rebates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (U/SFE)

97 Just end him. No Trial, no defense. End him on tv at this point.

Posted by: Cray Cray at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (nCTkv)

98 How do you move a population like that organizationally (not excusing the VAGOP, they seem to such, but this is a real issue) when the central population hub is 800 people?

Newsmax said this morning that for red states that have released data, early voting is at double 2022 levels. The message is getting out.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

99 95 Remember when a guy in KS got 19 years for stealing a gay flag? I suspect this guy's punishment will be a lot less
Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (sKqQm)

Or the rodeo clown who mocked Obama.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:30 PM (Y/06r)

100 I need to rewatch the Dragnet movie. So good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:26 PM (Y/06r)

Don't you mean "The Virgin Connie Swail"?
Wait a minute!

Posted by: far cry at October 23, 2026 12:30 PM (Q6P2R)

101 Mmm, I remember when our priest was urging us to support DACA from the pulpit 2018.
"Dreamers" sure are our brothers in Christ until it's no longer useful to them

Posted by: 88C+u at October 23, 2026 12:30 PM (88C+u)

102 The statue is huge and up on a tall pedestal. You'll really have to be committed to climb all the way up there with a sledgehammer to knock off the heads.

This wasn't some rando spur-of-the-moment stunt. This was clearly premeditated and planned.

I suspect he didn't act alone and was paid or otherwise compensated to do this.

There's got to be surveillance cameras on the statute, right?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

103 My plan involves 130 million less people in our country, most by relocation to some shithole country. This guy doesn't get that trip.

Posted by: Cray Cray at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (nCTkv)

104 Put the Mexican in a pillory.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (rJ48h)

105 Held without bond is stupid.
----

Correct. It would make more sense to drop him from an airplane back into Mexico--parachute optional.

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (TN0g+)

106 98 How do you move a population like that organizationally (not excusing the VAGOP, they seem to such, but this is a real issue) when the central population hub is 800 people?

Newsmax said this morning that for red states that have released data, early voting is at double 2022 levels. The message is getting out.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

==

It's observable in TX, mostly places with high profile senate elections.

I've been saying this for months, but the only way to juice turnout in a midterm is to have a federal senate election in your state. Otherwise, turnout crashes.

You need self-starting behavior to get people to turn out for everything else. Or, such a detailed, expansive GOTV effort that you're going door to door in places where doors are miles apart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:32 PM (U/SFE)

107 Creatine is good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:32 PM (Y/06r)

108 I still can’t shake the awful horrific image of Monica Lewinsky eating Bubba’s ass from yesterday. Ongoing nightmares….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (PlkPS)

109 In a different time and place when public officials like Descano demonstrated over and over that they didn't really like the public they were supposed to be serving they find themselves out of office, or they'd simply go missing one day.

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (TN0g+)

110 Don't you mean "The Virgin Connie Swail"?
Wait a minute!
Posted by: far cry at October 23, 2026 12:30 PM (Q6P2R)

'Don't you mean the 'Virgin' Connie swail?'

*knowing smile*

*shocked*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (Y/06r)

111
Who was he working for?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (eRlcH)

112 But let's spend money on tranny reading hour at the libraries...

@oaklandreportca 11hr
Oakland's 911 system down since last night; still offline.
📰 The city's 911 system has been offline since 8:30 p.m. Wednesday night, according to mayor Barbara Lee and police.
📰 Reports show large fiber optic and copper cables sliced away by an apparent "bad actor," according to police chief James Beere.
📰 The police department's 911 call center has been re-routed to the county's system.
📰 Police say they are answering the phone but can only respond to "Priority One" calls.
📰 The city's 311 system also is down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (nEUC6)

113 108 I still can’t shake the awful horrific image of Monica Lewinsky eating Bubba’s ass from yesterday. Ongoing nightmares….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (PlkPS)

Oval office, yo! Trump is disgracing it!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (Y/06r)

114 111
Who was he working for?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (eRlcH)

Number 2? Doctor Evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (Y/06r)

115 Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (iFTx/

This is a smaller version of the one in DC.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (Ti9vn)

116 I still can’t shake the awful horrific image of Monica Lewinsky eating Bubba’s ass from yesterday. Ongoing nightmares….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Agreed. Don't know how i missed that detail back in the day.

*shudders*

Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (ftFVW)

117 False flag operation. Get an immigrant to destroy prideful American history so Trump and FoxNews can complain how the left hates America and loves crime,

Oh, here we go (as SugarTits likes to say).
Whenever someone on your team does something evil and retarded, it's always a "false flag" from our team.
Every time I read this, it is always an admission they fucked the dog and are trying to pin it on someone else.

Posted by: 88C+u at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (88C+u)

118 Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano

Aka Banzai Bandito

Posted by: Rex B at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (sdSI9)

119 How do you move a population like that organizationally (not excusing the VAGOP, they seem to such, but this is a real issue) when the central population hub is 800 people?

Easiest way? Give them a concrete pay out if they do vote R. Something Trump has been trying to build.

Because this is how Dems get people to the polls - "vote for us and you get paid"

I have real doubts that knocking on doors would motivate them. If the results of the last 20 years haven't done it, a door knock won't.

As TJM said, the problem is largely cultural. I'm less diplomatic than him, though. I think they're lazy, and would rather bitch than get off the damn sofa on the porch and go vote. (Yes, that's a bit of hyperbole)

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:35 PM (Riz8t)

120 Also, gas prices don't materially affect election outcomes. Never have.
===
Past performance is not a predictor of future success.

Posted by: Standard Disclaimer at October 23, 2026 12:35 PM (anL5R)

121 📰 The city's 911 system has been offline since 8:30 p.m. Wednesday night, according to mayor Barbara Lee and police.
📰 Reports show large fiber optic and copper cables sliced away by an apparent "bad actor," according to police chief James Beere.

Feels like the setup for something where you want first responders delayed. In the movies it'd be a diamond heist. It's probably actually the reveal of a 100 foot tall status of Gavin Newsom, nude.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:35 PM (2ocoG)

122 WTF do they mean by "prideful American history "?

It's a historical statue that absolutely represents the pride of America.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM

These are the same people who would argue that we caused Pearl Harbor with our oil embargo of the totally peaceful and not at all imperialistic Japanese.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 23, 2026 12:36 PM (KRh8R)

123 The late Miguel Alonso Maldonado Soriano.

That sounds better.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (2WIwB)

124 Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:31 PM (iFTx/

This is a smaller version of the one in DC.
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (Ti9vn)
______

Yea, but still a big statue on a pedestal:

https://tinyurl.com/3z97p4hz

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

125 I would like to ask anti-fascists why Nancy Pelosi did not remove and burn actual fascist symbols, LARGE ones, behind the House of Representatives rostrum. Because she had the power to do so, for a number of years.

Posted by: Gref at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (5rh/l)

126 >>It's probably actually the reveal of a 100 foot tall status of Gavin Newsom, nude.

Brain bleach, stat.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (NcvvS)

127 Taint nothin".

Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (0sNs1)

128 A head(his) for a head

Posted by: Miflin at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (XtJbr)

129 120 Also, gas prices don't materially affect election outcomes. Never have.
===
Past performance is not a predictor of future success.

Posted by: Standard Disclaimer at October 23, 2026 12:35 PM (anL5R)

=========

"The youth don't turnout at 15% in midterms. Never have. Never will. Not even in 2018."

"Yeah, but this time, it'll be 18%."
-pollsters

No, gas prices are not nearly high enough to be some kind of material shock to the electoral system. You'd expect to see metros turning out at serious numbers even in red states if gas was a major factor at this point. And, no, that's not happening. It's motivating no one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (U/SFE)

130 Who was he working for?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 12:33 PM (eRlcH)

Number 2? Doctor Evil.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM

I told you I was surrounded by frickin' idiots!

Posted by: Dr. Evil at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM (KRh8R)

131 "When warnings are ignored, families like mine pay the price. But I'm going to continue to vote for Democrats because my TV tells me to."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM (CHHv1)

132 *shudders*
Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (ftFVW)

I bet bill did too.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM (2WIwB)

133 "When warnings are ignored, families like mine pay the price. But I'm going to continue to vote for Democrats because my TV tells me to."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Rating: Likely

Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:39 PM (ftFVW)

134 132 *shudders*
Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (ftFVW)

I bet bill did too.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM (2WIwB)

I bet Bill had a jaded taint, even then.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:39 PM (Y/06r)

135 As so it begins...and I'm not the guy who is always saying "and so it begins."

Ballots found in two different dumpsters in Seattle. Imagine my surprise.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:39 PM (2WIwB)

136 I told you I was surrounded by frickin' idiots!
Posted by: Dr. Evil at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM

It's hard to get quality minions.

Posted by: Big Penguin at October 23, 2026 12:39 PM (0sNs1)

137 122 WTF do they mean by "prideful American history "?

It's a historical statue that absolutely represents the pride of America.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:21 PM

These are the same people who would argue that we caused Pearl Harbor with our oil embargo of the totally peaceful and not at all imperialistic Japanese.

And about the same as Tucker.

Tucker Carlson Explains World War 2

https://tinyurl.com/3t3kb3px

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

138 Take his head on live television. Kill him.

Posted by: Oats at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (/ja+K)

139 >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (U/SFE)

TJM, the urban (blue) population is less dependent on cars & gasoline. Price of gas won't make a big difference to them.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (NcvvS)

140 I bet bill did too.
Posted by: Diogenes

And now I've thrown up a little in my mouth.

Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (ftFVW)

141 same people who would argue that we caused Pearl Harbor with our oil embargo of the totally peaceful and not at all imperialistic Japanese.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 23, 2026 12:36 PM (KRh8R)

Yeah, a brief peek into their antics in Nanjing and I'm like, fuck those guys.
Glad they're better now but it took the US Marines to help them out.

Posted by: and a little packaged sunlight at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (88C+u)

142
The statue is actually outside of the Marine Corps base:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jiLEZ97hcxEdpoF58

Posted by: Take a look at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (yTY59)

143 >>>did i mess you up by posting at 12:07 instead of 12:10?

LOLOLOL

Posted by: Max Power at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (SwyyQ)

144 I still can’t shake the awful horrific image of Monica Lewinsky eating Bubba’s ass from yesterday. Ongoing nightmares….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

------

Wait a minute, was that in testimony or written somewhere?

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (iOpI2)

145 I need to rewatch the Dragnet movie.
==
I forgot my goat leggings.

Posted by: Pep Streebeck at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)

146 What does the GOP have to offer rural voters? It has been very disinterested in its base (as opposed to its donors) for a long time.

You can't scare them to the polls, because they don't believe urban ills are going to affect them. They're wrong. But they don't seem to think so.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (UhWEA)

147 At least three men in South Africa ambushed a father and his children as they were leaving their home. One put a gun to the son's head as he opened the gate. Two other armed males exited a car and rushed at the family.

The father killed all three attackers.

Video here:
http://tiny.cc/3wic101

My only complaint is it looks like he wasn't carrying with one in the chamber. Don't do that. It's stupid. But the man did his duty and he protected his family while killing three goblins.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (mkw2N)

148 Doctorate in Engineering

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (l3cgK)

149 You can't scare them to the polls, because they don't believe urban ills are going to affect them. They're wrong. But they don't seem to think so.

At this point, any confusion is deliberate. Things have been going spectacularly wrong for far too long to continue pleading that you didn't know.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (Riz8t)

150 139 >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:37 PM (U/SFE)

TJM, the urban (blue) population is less dependent on cars & gasoline. Price of gas won't make a big difference to them.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:40 PM (NcvvS)

========

"BUT IT'S COST OF LIVING!"

Yes, they would be turning out more. It would be animating them.

Gas prices do not, never have, and never will predict elections.

It's like wanting special elections to predict the next general. There's history upon history upon history showing that no, they don't have predictive power.

But year after year, "Oh, sure, maybe they've never been predictive before, but this year is totally happening."

Gas prices were actually higher under Biden and under Obama (adjusted for inflation) and neither saw serious punishment for gas prices.

If gas prices killed the party in power, Democrats would have lost California 20 years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (U/SFE)

151 A beheading?

I say, let the punishment fit the crime!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 23, 2026 12:27 PM

You know, we wrote a song about that.

Posted by: Gilbert & Sullivan at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (KRh8R)

152 145 I need to rewatch the Dragnet movie.
==
I forgot my goat leggings.
Posted by: Pep Streebeck at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)

Heh.

People
Against
Goodness
And
Normalcy

P-A-G-A-N. PAGAN!

Nice work, Joe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (Y/06r)

153 Im thinking that good Virginia Team Red campaign flyers should feature crime scene photos.
They're killing us.
Fight fight fight

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2026 12:43 PM (8OLq1)

154 The same people mewling about how despicable it was to use Amy Acton's mom in an attack ad -- very effective ad, I might add -- eagerly promote and celebrate any rando Trump family member or friend who says something negative about him.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

155 153 Im thinking that good Virginia Team Red campaign flyers should feature crime scene photos.
They're killing us.
Fight fight fight
Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2026 12:43 PM (8OLq1)

Virginia is hostile territory. Commies own it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:43 PM (Y/06r)

156 Oakland still has cops?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (vJPf4)

157 *shudders*
Posted by: She Hobbit at October 23, 2026 12:34 PM (ftFVW)

I bet bill did too.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2026 12:38 PM

That was not a nice thing you just did.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (KRh8R)

158 I still can’t shake the awful horrific image of Monica Lewinsky eating Bubba’s ass from yesterday. Ongoing nightmares….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

You might be able to stop thinking about it if you stopped telling others about it. ;-)

Posted by: Gref at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (5rh/l)

159
At least three men in South Africa ambushed a father and his children as they were leaving their home. One put a gun to the son's head as he opened the gate. Two other armed males exited a car and rushed at the family.

The father killed all three attacke

___________

Saw a video of a South African farmer who emigrated to the US. He said how happy he was he could walk his land and not worry about being assaulted or murdered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (eRlcH)

160 It's like wanting special elections to predict the next general. There's history upon history upon history showing that no, they don't have predictive power.

But year after year, "Oh, sure, maybe they've never been predictive before, but this year is totally happening."

Gas prices were actually higher under Biden and under Obama (adjusted for inflation) and neither saw serious punishment for gas prices.

If gas prices killed the party in power, Democrats would have lost California 20 years ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM (U/SFE)
_________

"This time, the stripper really likes me!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

161 Beautiful, really. DACA. America definitely needs dreamers like this.

ace you shoulda tossed in the report from your burg about ignored detainers and the thousands of felonies by those released (NY Post last week).

But all of this is really the same thing. The populace and its elected reps just can't bestir themselves to do anything. Not as a whole, or a working majority. The vile degraded institutions ("courts") complete the picture mostly made up of accountable officials whom the electorate never holds to account.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (U/Byj)

162 Jim Jordan has never done anything, and never will.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:44 PM (2ap+5)

163 Morn' all... The WaPo has informed me this AM that Ohio Republicans are now not going to vote for Ramaswamy because of the ad he put out from the Dem whacko Candidates Mother...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (+gK6I)

164 Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

Untrue.

Posted by: 88C+u at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (88C+u)

165 My only complaint is it looks like he wasn't carrying with one in the chamber. Don't do that. It's stupid. But the man did his duty and he protected his family while killing three goblins.
Posted by: bonhomme

I'd say he was pretty successful.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (nEUC6)

166 Doctorate in Engineering
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM

Doctorate in Education > Doctorate in Engineering

Posted by: Dr. Jill at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (0sNs1)

167 163 Morn' all... The WaPo has informed me this AM that Ohio Republicans are now not going to vote for Ramaswamy because of the ad he put out from the Dem whacko Candidates Mother...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (+gK6I)

========

That's one way to explain that Republican turnout actually increased the day after and Democrat turnout decreased the day after in Ohio.

https://x.com/RealSKeshel/status/
2113427497459310779

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:46 PM (U/SFE)

168 I get the ballots from previous tenants in my California mailbox.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2026 12:46 PM (8OLq1)

169 I was a brig guard at Quantico in the early 80s, we use to walk prisoners around base picking up trash, walked around this statue many times, makes me sad and angry

Posted by: Creek at October 23, 2026 12:46 PM (IhCfh)

170 Morn' all... The WaPo has informed me this AM that Ohio Republicans are now not going to vote for Ramaswamy because of the ad he put out from the Dem whacko Candidates Mother...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:45 PM (+gK6I)
_______

WaPoo is whining about a GOP ad. How do you know an ad was effective? That's how you know ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:47 PM (iFTx/)

171
That's one way to explain that Republican turnout actually increased the day after and Democrat turnout decreased the day after in Ohio.

https://x.com/RealSKeshel/status/
2113427497459310779
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:46 PM (U/SFE)

Yes... See.. The Republicans are knocking themselves out to early vote for Whacko Acton...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:47 PM (+gK6I)

172 Posted by: bonhomme at October 23, 2026 12:41 PM (mkw2N)

That was a good one but my favorite is still the SA courier and his black assistant that avoided car jackers in their up armored pick up truck. It was like watching an action movie. The courier is someone you want in your foxhole.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:47 PM (Ti9vn)

173 @TonerousHyus
·
8m
Georgia Day 9 IPEV Update
11:30am - 45,962 voted

White: 60.3%
Black: 24.9%

Dems really have completely botched their turnout ops

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Second day in a row where black turnout (Ossoff will want it at least at 30% total by the end of early voting) is below 25%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:48 PM (U/SFE)

174 The same people mewling about how despicable it was to use Amy Acton's mom in an attack ad -- very effective ad, I might add -- eagerly promote and celebrate any rando Trump family member or friend who says something negative about him.
==
I'll never understand the sensibilities of those who think politics is some kind of honorable debate. It isn't and never has been. Maybe its aspirational and they just want it to be a debating society. I have aspirations as well, but I don't really expect other people to fulfill them.

Posted by: A hatchet faced dealer in nutmeg, but you can call me Abe at October 23, 2026 12:48 PM (anL5R)

175 > That was a good one but my favorite is still the SA courier and his black assistant that avoided car jackers in their up armored pick up truck. It was like watching an action movie.

That one was more cinematic, but I don't think he capped any goblins.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 23, 2026 12:48 PM (mkw2N)

176 GIVE ME A M14 AND A BAYONET. I'LL MAKE THOS SINS OF WHORES SING SOPRANO; BEFORE I BUTT STROKE 'EM TPO MEET THEIR MAKER!

KBar alone ; at my age insufficient.

I did not think I could hate liberals any more than I have for 60 years; boy was I wrong!

Posted by: rodney stanton at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (Z3fHQ)

177 Ohioans prefer a drug-addled alcoholic who curls up in the fetal position on her office floor in the face of mild criticism to the shady drug scammer who wants to transform Ohio by importing several million south asians to tell us how to do things.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (2ap+5)

178 People
Against
Goodness
And
Normalcy

P-A-G-A-N. PAGAN!

Nice work, Joe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:42 PM

Sylvia Wiss: Do these look like the breasts of a forty year old woman?
Friday: No ma'am. They're quite impressive... bordering on spectacular.

Aaaand, now it's a boob thread.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (KRh8R)

179 "This time, the stripper really likes me!"

Because I'm helping her pay her way through med school.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (vTZFs)

180 We look like a newspaper.
But we're not.

Posted by: The Washington Post at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (yTY59)

181 He also argued that "if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County.

Call me old school, but I'm old enough to remember when "Let justice be done, though the heavens may fall," was a thing.

Posted by: Bitblt at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (kj+zZ)

182 174 I'll never understand the sensibilities of those who think politics is some kind of honorable debate. It isn't and never has been. Maybe its aspirational and they just want it to be a debating society. I have aspirations as well, but I don't really expect other people to fulfill them.

Posted by: A hatchet faced dealer in nutmeg, but you can call me Abe at October 23, 2026 12:48 PM (anL5R)

========

I've observed its mostly the same people who complain loudest that Republicans don't play dirty, that they play by Queensbury rules while Democrats win because they play dirty, that are complaining about the Acton mom ad not including enough specific detail about their complicated history to be fair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:50 PM (U/SFE)

183 That one was more cinematic, but I don't think he capped any goblins.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 23, 2026 12:48 PM (mkw2N)

He did not from what we see because they got away before he could.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:50 PM (Ti9vn)

184 177 Ohioans prefer a drug-addled alcoholic who curls up in the fetal position on her office floor in the face of mild criticism to the shady drug scammer who wants to transform Ohio by importing several million south asians to tell us how to do things.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (2ap+5)

I admit the choices aren't great but Ramaswamy can be "persuaded" to do what trump wants.. Ms. Whacko not a chance in hell

Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (+gK6I)

185 >>If gas prices killed the party in power, Democrats would have lost California 20 years ago.

We are saying the same thing with slightly different wording. The Democrats in CA are heavily clustered in areas where people don't use much gasoline. Plus, in CA, the fraud makes for comfortable margins because of the urban machines.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (NcvvS)

186 177 Ohioans prefer a drug-addled alcoholic who curls up in the fetal position on her office floor in the face of mild criticism to the shady drug scammer who wants to transform Ohio by importing several million south asians to tell us how to do things.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (2ap+5)

========

1. Acton would also import several million south asians.

2. Governors have so little power over immigration that the idea that this issue should be central to their campaigns is silly.

3. Acton would be worse in a bunch of other ways, like she was during COVID.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (U/SFE)

187 Willowed.
“Character Matters” Says Chinese Communist Bush Brother to Explain Talarico Vote
"I'm thinking of joining the Chinese Communist party."

Most politicians aren't pimps, they're whores. Pay them enough and they'll do what you want them to. The CCP pays well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (l3cgK)

188 The same people mewling about how despicable it was to use Amy Acton's mom in an attack ad -- very effective ad, I might add -- eagerly promote and celebrate any rando Trump family member or friend who says something negative about him.

I just saw a clip the other day of someone on MS NOW talking to Mary Trump and fawning over her.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)

189 Cue up Hanover Fiste scene from Heavy Metal.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (LOGZr)

190 Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Posted by: Always a fun sentence to type at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (yTY59)

191
185 >>If gas prices killed the party in power, Democrats would have lost California 20 years ago.

We are saying the same thing with slightly different wording. The Democrats in CA are heavily clustered in areas where people don't use much gasoline. Plus, in CA, the fraud makes for comfortable margins because of the urban machines.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (NcvvS)

=========

Texas rurals vote like 75-25 Republican every election, no matter the year, no matter the price of gas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (U/SFE)

192
What's wrong with her?

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
·
6h
Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

The reaction was so muted she had to try it again.

"Let me repeat that..."

She actually thinks this stuff is brilliant and is amazed when no one else does.

Posted by: beckster at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (kX27y)

193 Don't cancel me. I'm just thinking out loud.

===

You are just asking questions!

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (AKptf)

194 South Africa still seems to have a nearly-inexhaustible supply of hot blonde chicks.

Posted by: far cry at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (Q6P2R)

195
Most politicians aren't pimps, they're whores.

Ah, but could they have outfought Santino?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:53 PM (Riz8t)

196 Jim Jordan has never done anything, and never will.

Jim Jordan has never done anything.
Jim Jordan never will.
Jim Jordan’s job is holding back votes
That might pass a useful Bill.

(Note: I know nothing about Jim Jordan. And less about Ohio. Except that they stole land from us, and what did we get in return? Pasties. Actually, not a bad trade for Toledo.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 12:53 PM (kYmoU)

197 I'm unburdened by what has been.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at October 23, 2026 12:53 PM (yTY59)

198 He also argued that "if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice...
----

No, that's the actual definition of justice. The deportation is for the crime of being in the country illegally, whereas the statuatory punishment is for the newer offense.

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2026 12:54 PM (TN0g+)

199 Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

"Limitation" and "Ambition" sort of rhyme. She was hip-hopping, yo.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:54 PM (2ocoG)

200 Ohioans prefer a drug-addled alcoholic who curls up in the fetal position on her office floor in the face of mild criticism to the shady drug scammer who wants to transform Ohio by importing several million south asians to tell us how to do things.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (2ap+5)

I admit the choices aren't great but Ramaswamy can be "persuaded" to do what trump wants.. Ms. Whacko not a chance in hell
Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (+gK6I)
_____

Vivek sucks. Acton sucks even more suck. I'd take Vivek over Acton in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (iFTx/)

201 TJM, not disputing your basic thesis on gas prices/elections at all, but CA - sort of a bad case to base any generalizations on. The state's politically dead. There's only one party, really, but more importantly, the electorate is self-destructively idiotic (like much of the US).

In the largest political earthquake in modern American history (down to county level), 2010, I believe exactly one incumbent in CA was booted. One deceased incumbent was re-elected as well.

This is how dead the state is. It's bizarre. Gas prices here should resemble those in TX. CA is an oil-rich state that formerly had a substantial % of American refining capacity. Both things, of course, dramatically damaged or limited, while an idiotic public looks on, sucking its thumb.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (U/Byj)

202 Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
·
6h
Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

The reaction was so muted she had to try it again.

"Let me repeat that..."

She actually thinks this stuff is brilliant and is amazed when no one else does.
------

Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (TN0g+)

203 Texas rurals vote like 75-25 Republican every election, no matter the year, no matter the price of gas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (U/SFE)

Gas prices in Texas not as significant as in other states helps a just a little bit. It definitely doesn't hurt.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (Ti9vn)

204 Acton will be a disaster if she is elected. I'm from Ohio, but don't live there now. I just can't believe they would elect this wacko after trending red for quite a while. Even with Vivek not being all that great. Anything would be better than her. She'll change OH to a sanctuary state and probably govern like that VA hag Spambooger.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (qBdHI)

205 Publicly burn the mfer alive

Posted by: Joe at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (Uy/WF)

206 But Trump said pussy so straight D it is.

Posted by: Virginia AWFLs at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (YNt71)

207 Vivek sucks. Acton sucks even more suck. I'd take Vivek over Acton in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (iFTx/)

The lesser of two weevils.

Posted by: Captain Aubrey at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (Q6P2R)

208 We must maintain open border and liberal immigration policies because remember that one time we turned away a Jewish refugee boat 80 years ago.

Posted by: Neo Conman at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (LBPN0)

209 Gas prices in Texas not as significant as in other states helps a just a little bit. It definitely doesn't hurt.

Any Texan who does any traveling should be very happy with Texas prices, unless the only place they travel is Missouri.

However, it often takes a lot of traveling to get out of Texas.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (kYmoU)

210 179 "This time, the stripper really likes me!"

Because I'm helping her pay her way through med school.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 23, 2026 12:49 PM (vTZFs)

Nursing.

Not that I have any idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (Y/06r)

211 Um, there's no place in CA where any sizable number of people don't use gasoline.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (U/Byj)

212 We must maintain open border and liberal immigration policies because remember that one time we turned away a Jewish refugee boat 80 years ago.
Posted by: Neo Conman at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (LBPN0

Democrat did that by the way.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (Ti9vn)

213 What's wrong with her?
-------

She is so used to people kissing her ass and telling her she's a genius slay kween that this is what she unleashes on the world.

And to someone like her she has no intention of ever changing. It's you that has to change. Her type gets off on it.

Posted by: ... at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (EX3Wq)

214 >>Texas rurals vote like 75-25 Republican every election, no matter the year, no matter the price of gas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (U/SFE)

Yep. Was talking about California, and agreeing with you. Gas prices haven't affected voters meaningfully in 50 years.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (NcvvS)

215 I saw this :

"
Speaking of polls...

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
18h
2026 Maine Senate Poll

🔴 Susan Collins: 49%
🔵 Troy Jackson: 49%

Fox News (Beacon/Shaw) | 10/16-10/20"

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (AKptf)

216 The same people mewling about how despicable it was to use Amy Acton's mom in an attack ad -- very effective ad, I might add -- eagerly promote and celebrate any rando Trump family member or friend who says something negative about him.

I just saw a clip the other day of someone on MS NOW talking to Mary Trump and fawning over her.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)
____

Yea, Mary. Is she Trump's cousin or niece or something who is always yakking her stupid flapping dickhole mouth about how bad Trump is? The media is always promoting her as someone we should trust because she's a relative.

But when Acton's own mom says she's trash, that it not only not newsworthy but off limits entirely.

Suck my balls.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 12:58 PM (iFTx/)

217 Dreamers doing the enshitifying Americans won't.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 23, 2026 12:58 PM (bX16E)

218 ote: I know nothing about Jim Jordan. And less about Ohio. Except that they stole land from us, and what did we get in return? Pasties. Actually, not a bad trade for Toledo.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 12:53 PM (kYmoU)

The pies or what burlesque dancers wear?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 12:58 PM (l3cgK)

219 214 >>Texas rurals vote like 75-25 Republican every election, no matter the year, no matter the price of gas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM (U/SFE)

Yep. Was talking about California, and agreeing with you. Gas prices haven't affected voters meaningfully in 50 years.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (NcvvS)

=======

Okay, I seem to have misunderstood you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:58 PM (U/SFE)

220
But Trump said pussy so straight D it is.
Posted by: Virginia AWFLs

__________

Talarico is such a cute boy. I want to take his virginity.

Posted by: Texas AWFLs at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (eRlcH)

221 Trump said get behind me I will take the flak and show you how to win. How to fight for what you've been telling your voters you want.

The GOP said nah bro.

Posted by: ... at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (EX3Wq)

222 I'd be ok with hanging anyone that attacks a WWII memorial, citizen or no
Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2026 12:15 PM (sKqQm)

Winch, overhead pulley, piano wire noose. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (n7Dzq)

223 >>194 South Africa still seems to have a nearly-inexhaustible supply of hot blonde chicks.

Spectacular brunettes, too. Worked with a couple of them in the '90s.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (NcvvS)

224 The lesser of two weevils.
Posted by: Captain Aubrey at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (Q6P2R)

The weasel of two lessers

Posted by: Boswell at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (j10i6)

225 215 I saw this :

"
Speaking of polls...

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
18h
2026 Maine Senate Poll

🔴 Susan Collins: 49%
🔵 Troy Jackson: 49%

Fox News (Beacon/Shaw) | 10/16-10/20"

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (AKptf)

=======

It's Joever for Troy Jackson.

Unless polling firms as bad as Fox News have figured out how to address the massive issue of reaching rural voters that has affected the entire industry for at least a decade (and gotten worse) and is particularly bad in Maine (Collins lost every single poll in 2020 and won by 8, a swing of 16 points from the hallowed RCP average) and got it bang on and this is totally just a tied race.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (U/SFE)

226 However, it often takes a lot of traveling to get out of Texas.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (kYmoU)

We don't use heating oil for the most part.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (Ti9vn)

227 199 Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

"Limitation" and "Ambition" sort of rhyme. She was hip-hopping, yo.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 12:54 PM (2ocoG)

Retardation rhymes too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (l3cgK)

228 204 Acton will be a disaster if she is elected. I'm from Ohio, but don't live there now. I just can't believe they would elect this wacko after trending red for quite a while. Even with Vivek not being all that great. Anything would be better than her. She'll change OH to a sanctuary state and probably govern like that VA hag Spambooger.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2026 12:55 PM (qBdHI)

=======

Unfortunately, we are squishy, statist republicans. It's hard to make the argument against Amy turning us into a sanctuary state after what DeWine (or "the sawn-off runt" as my mother calls him) did to Springfield (among other places).

Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (2ap+5)

229 Posted by: beckster at October 23, 2026 12:52 PM

I don't quite understand why Kamala is so unable to express herself clearly. Is she stupid or befuddled by alcohol or both? . We all have times where we're tired or don't feel well or are under stress where things don't come out as we might like, but she does this repeatedly. I think it's racist of white Dems to promote her simply because she's black . I expect that were she alive today, the black poet ( since the last thread was talking about poets) and former slave, Phyllis Wheatley, would be a better candidate for public office than Kamala.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 23, 2026 01:00 PM (JrHfD)

230 I saw this :

"
Speaking of polls...

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
·
18h
2026 Maine Senate Poll

🔴 Susan Collins: 49%
🔵 Troy Jackson: 49%

Fox News (Beacon/Shaw) | 10/16-10/20"
Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 12:57 PM (AKptf)
_______

I think Collins wins by 5 easy. I never was worried about this seat.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2026 01:00 PM (iFTx/)

231 206 But Trump said pussy so straight D it is.

Posted by: Virginia AWFLs at October 23, 2026 12:56 PM (YNt71)

I'd rather have pussy than D.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 01:00 PM (l3cgK)

232 199 Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

------

Will this imbecile ever shut up??

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (iOpI2)

233 Jeb: Please clap
Kamala: Please give me the Clap

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (bX16E)

234 I believe this crime against the USMC monument is covered under the ‘halls of Montezuma’ clause.

Posted by: Eromero at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (w5SWv)

235 I don't quite understand why Kamala is so unable to express herself clearly
-------

She doesn't have to change so she won't. It's really that simple.

Posted by: ... at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (EX3Wq)

236 There's only one party, really, but more importantly, the electorate is self-destructively idiotic (like much of the US).

I maintain the elections in Cali are so fucked there's no way to know what the electorate actually is, and that's why they're sweating about Trump's threats to arrest the election officials. Sort of like how Miami was assumed to be a deep blue city until DeSantis supervised their elections with a microscope and suddenly it wasn't.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (2ocoG)

237 39
>> Team Red better get it in gear and win elections in Virginia again up and down the ticket.
Or bleed to death.

What do you suggest, nuke NoVa?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

Make D.C. Square Again

Posted by: SciVo at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (ke3zm)

238 Kamala tried out a motivational quote in Mississippi:

"Never let someone else's limited ability to see your capacity be a limitation on your ambition."

That's an impressive perversion of English. Who approves her scripts?

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (IYMzU)

239 233 Jeb: Please clap
Kamala: Please give me the Clap

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (bX16E)

Can she be given what she already has?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (l3cgK)

240 I don't quite understand why Kamala is so unable to express herself clearly

She's a genuine retard. Like 80 IQ.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (2ocoG)

241 Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 01:01 PM (iOpI2)

Since she supposedly wants to run again, probably not.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (JrHfD)

242 It's Joever for Troy Jackson.

Unless polling firms as bad as Fox News have figured out how to address the massive issue of reaching rural voters that has affected the entire industry for at least a decade (and gotten worse) and is particularly bad in Maine (Collins lost every single poll in 2020 and won by 8, a swing of 16 points from the hallowed RCP average) and got it bang on and this is totally just a tied race.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 12:59 PM (U/SFE)

there were two polling shops that were on target in 2024, Fox was not one of them for sure

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (AKptf)

243 I don't quite understand why Kamala is so unable to express herself clearly

Could it be that she's an smooth-brained idiot and has absolutely nothing worthwhile to say?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (Riz8t)

244 240 I don't quite understand why Kamala is so unable to express herself clearly

She's a genuine retard. Like 80 IQ.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2026 01:02 PM (2ocoG)

She's taken decades of head trauma.
Take that anyway you want.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (l3cgK)

245
Kamala is like a bad vaudeville act that doesn't know its time is up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (eRlcH)

246 The pies or what burlesque dancers wear?

The pies. But I’d take either one over Toledo.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (kYmoU)

247 >>Okay, I seem to have misunderstood you.

No worries. My bad. Come up short in writing clarity, occasionally.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (NcvvS)

248 There's a rumor that several Democrat Senate HQs, including those in Texas, Michigan, and North Carolina, are celebrating the destruction of the Iwo Jima statue. In NC, they even set up a mock statue with sex toys and hypodermic needles, and blindfolded people, gave them baseball bats, and let them swing at it pinata-style. I'm told that Roy Cooper, the Democrat candidate, himself took a swing at it.

Posted by: Ken at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (fpFax)

249 242 there were two polling shops that were on target in 2024, Fox was not one of them for sure

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 01:03 PM (AKptf)

=======

To make matters even more complicated:

A pollster that can get a national race correct can be horrible at the state level at the same time.

"Oh, Emerson got the 2018 GA race spot on, so that means their read of the 2026 TX race is exact." sort of thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (U/SFE)

250 there must be pollster tracker somewhere out there...

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (AKptf)

251 Toledo makes you happy to be heading for Detroit.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (2ap+5)

252 What I don't understand is how her husband can listen to her jibberish 24/7.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (iOpI2)

253
"Involuntary sex with a child."

Votes aren't gonna harvest themselves.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (VuTBl)

254 Kamala got less than 2% of the Dem primary vote and made to look foolish in the general election but now she's supposedly the leading Dem candidate?

Sometimes your enemies do your job for you.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (Ti9vn)

255 254 Kamala got less than 2% of the Dem primary vote and made to look foolish in the general election but now she's supposedly the leading Dem candidate?

Sometimes your enemies do your job for you.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (Ti9vn)

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This, too, is the story of Joe Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, precisely framed and deadpan with Wes Anderson at October 23, 2026 01:05 PM (U/SFE)

256 What I don't understand is how her husband can listen to her jibberish 24/7.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (iOpI2

He keeps her mouth full.

Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 01:05 PM (Ti9vn)

257 Gas prices are going to move the needle. Yes, it's stupid, but I've seen a lot of polling where it's a leading issue. Over immigration and crime. And then you have the Iran war being incredibly unpopular that's tied to it.

Again, its a stupid connection that therefore you vote for Dems, but I think it's just a knee jerk reaction of our dumb electorate.

Posted by: Sharpie at October 23, 2026 01:05 PM (qXZ9A)

258 Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2026 01:04 PM (Ti9vn)

She came half an inch away from being handed the presidency.

Posted by: ... at October 23, 2026 01:06 PM (EX3Wq)

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