Gun Thread: 2026 TXMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!

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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 2026 TXMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition? That's right, guys and gals, another fabulous TXMoMe is in the books. Please consider this an open thread to discuss and analyze your TXMoMe experience!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Fundamentals of MoMe'n, that is!

I'm writing this on the 13th so the event hasn't occurred yet, although I am now within striking distance of Corsicana. Future Weasel assures me it was a great time, as always. So, in the spirit of taunting those who chose not to attend, please consider the following conversation starters:

- Did you go?
- Did you have fun?
- Did you shoot?
- Rifles, handguns, or both?
- How about the food?
- Was it amazing or what?
- Did you see a lot of your pals?

Newcomers:
- Were you surprised by the funness and coolness of the event?
- Was it what you expected?
- What was the best part for you?
- Did you make a bunch of new in-person friends?
- Think you will be back?

10/18/26 Update
Yikes! was that a good time, or what? I just finished day 1 of the drive home and wanted to share some thoughts.

First, huge thank you to Ben Had, Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen for organizing and hosting the TXMoMe. Next, a big shout out to all those who created and executed the menu of outstanding food over two days. I'm still full! Next, an extra-bigly thank you to all the RSO's who spent two days on the handgun and rifle ranges keeping everyone safe and having a great time. Next, a shout out to our pal rhomboid for donating two nice boxes of cigars for the cool kids to enjoy, and to everyone who brought drinks and snacks and desserts for the group to share. Finally, thanks to all of the Morons who attended and continue to make the event the highlight of my year. Thank you!

That's it folks! Please discuss in the comments below!

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Springfield Armory

If you haven't been, you need to go.

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How To Shoot a Pistol

Our pal 'Jer' shows us how it's done.

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Pumpkin Carving!

A seasonal favorite.

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Pistol Malfunction Clearing Drills

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Our Pal Camoflage

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Ax Weasel

Q: Weasel, last week we covered micrometers but how do we read calipers?
A: An important topic for sure. Please see below.

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Prison Break!

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Assignment Outer Space!!

Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
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Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 THE BLADE DRAWS FIRST

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 18, 2026 07:00 PM (VepBY)

2 Yo!

Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:00 PM (LMRVO)

3 sponge

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (I43vL)

4 Consider me taunted! Maybe next year!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (VyBeY)

5 Good evening everyone
I guess Weasel survived

Posted by: Skip at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?

Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)

7 Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.

Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (abgnT)

8 Good evening everyone and I’m looking forward to hearing about the Texas meeting!

Posted by: Coelacanth at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (cIOlQ)

9 I notified the otterses

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at October 18, 2026 07:04 PM (R3dMR)

10 Sounds like everyone had fun.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 18, 2026 07:04 PM (CHHv1)

11 "Consider me taunted! Maybe next year!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"

I am already planning the trip next year and I want to see you there, sock_rat_eez.

Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:06 PM (MWfyi)

12 Good to see a mechanical dial caliper there!
The only kind to use if you value an accurate measurement!

that Mitutoyo is exactly what sits in it's case over my bench.

I have used digital ones a few times; never saw one that could hold a zero.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:07 PM (VyBeY)

13 I know you all know but it bears repeating. Good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy from killing more kids.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Up, Up, and Away! at October 18, 2026 07:08 PM (ndZc7)

14 Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (abgnT)

And I didn’t get any emergency bail requests. Must have been well-run. As usual.

Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:08 PM (LMRVO)

15 Got to the range for the first time in three years. Started with a plain old 22 LR High Standard revolver. 22 LR is a great starter cartridge because you don't want to develop a flinch and I had to check to see if hand pain/finger strength was an issue. Had a few bobbles while firing about 100 rounds at a diagnostic set of targets as the older revolver did not like 22 LR minimags much resulting in hard ejection and two misfires probably related to too hot ammo for the old revolver. Something like Thunderbolt is probably a better choice for this revolver.

But shot straight, kept all shots within a 4 inch circle at 5/7/10 yards and spent my time working on full reset of trigger. Which is one of the reasons that revolvers force you to use proper trigger technique in double action--heavier 12-15 lb pull and to keep it straight, you have properly 'row' the trigger back and forth without pushing the firearm to the right or left and you have to do a full reset rather than trying to catch the link.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:11 PM (E4rtv)

16 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at October 18, 2026 07:11 PM (sAmhv)

17 Weasel,

do you just reverse course to head home or do you mix up the routing?

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (QyMPf)

18 Thank You to all that attended the TXMoMe. What an absolutely amazing, fantastic time !!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (ua/lL)

19 I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.

Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:13 PM (MWfyi)

20 " ... already planning the trip next year ... "
*fistbump!*
that was how I used to do for Dayton Hamvention; the smart money made their reservations for next year at checkout on Sunday.

I hope to attend next year, perhaps now is not too soon to start planning ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:14 PM (VyBeY)

21 Bravo, whig!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:14 PM (VyBeY)

22 Evening all!!! Stuck in traffic coming from the MoMe. Schnorflepuppy says hello.

Had a wonderful time at the MoMe, cannot wait for the next one!!

I-40 near West Memphis backed up.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)

23 Camoflage or Camouflage?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++)

24 I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.
Posted by: fd

Just read that the "students" are starting to break into private residences. They're targeting estates in Marseilles.

Posted by: Tuna at October 18, 2026 07:16 PM (lJ0H4)

25 Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (QyMPf)
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Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.

Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)

26 I'm well over a year since my last time on a range ...

SAD!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (VyBeY)

27 Will comment more later, still in the car although we are within the Tennessee stayte borders!
But it was an awesome MoMe, as usual....

Posted by: The Grateful at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (eoWjE)

28 It was chilly under the carport and so I spent a lot of the time sitting in the sun, talking. That, and the wraparound sunglasses I usually wear resulted in a sunburn all over the lower half of my face.

My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (VmDLh)

29 For those of us not lucky enough to have attended, Ben Had just put up the menus for Friday and Saturday on the food thread. The food sounds mouth watering.

Posted by: Tuna at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (lJ0H4)

30 I spell it with the "u", myself ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (VyBeY)

31 Range report: New bullets edition.

So, yesterday was our monthly 1,000 yard club match. Conditions were filthy yet a couple of our shooters did quite well, with one of our guys going 5X's first five shots. We all thought he was going to get a 100 but, alas, one shot dropped into the nine ring. Still, though, conditions were such it was remarkable shooting.

As for myself, I'd decided I needed to try a bullet with a little better downrange performance. I picked up some Berger Long Range Hybrids and my initial testing said they should be good. (sub .4 MOA @ 100 yards.) But, 100 yards isn't 1,000 yards so, took the results with grain of salt. I started off well, 2 in the 10 ring and one X. Things were looking good then I missed a wind call, got into the 8 ring and couldn't get back where I was. Finished with an 89. The positive, though, was, this was one of my better performances under adverse conditions and, I know what I did wrong. Normally, I dial the initial correction for windage and change my hold as conditions warrant. This time, I dialed and it was a big mistake because the wind shift was temporary.

Ah well, live and learn.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (eGzf1)

32 Remember, what happened in the Horse Trailer stays in the Horse Trailer.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (0sNs1)

33 So, since the 22 LR was fine, I pulled out a Third Generation Smith and Wesson 9mm. The heavy 5946 with is double action only (DAO). Lighter trigger pull than the 22 LR revolver but still about 9-10 lbs but very smooth trigger pull with a short reset.

Then the fun began. Had a combination of Remington 115 lb gr range ammo and Federal 124 gr. American Eagle. Again, shooting at diagnostic targets. In every case, I nailed the first 4-5 shots but then either had a malfunction (extractor failed to pull the empty out of the chamber) or my shots started going lower with higher dispersion (strength issue most probably). Shot full box of 124 gr Federal and about half of the Remington. Both shot to point of aim at 7-10 yards. But more malfunctions with the Remington. So, need to check the extractor for proper hold on the cartridge--not chipped on inspection, etc. so either a crud issue (within extractor recess or behind the extractor hook), or a tired ejector spring.

A force gauge is necessary to check the correct degree of pull and I will probably have to buy one just for that purpose. Hoping it isn't the spring as Third Generation S&W are a pain to remove the extractor pin.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (E4rtv)

34 My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM

It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:21 PM (0sNs1)

35 Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)

try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)

36 Were there any unplanned lateral dispersions?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (0sNs1)

37 I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.
Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:13 PM (MWfyi)

In France the targets keep moving.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (2WIwB)

38 Had a blast at the MOME! Shot some pistols, talked to some great folks, smoked more than a few cigars! Thank you Rhomboid! Ate whole pig 2 ways and tons of black forest cake. Weather was perfect ish. Too much wind on Friday for rifle folks but cool and comfortable Saturday. Raffle was fair as a North Korean election. Not rigged at all. Disco Doof conducted a dance clinic/closing ceremony. Who knew neon rainbow was a slimming color... See you all next year.

Posted by: JSpicy at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (PTJ94)

39 try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
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I'll try that tomorrow!

Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (abgnT)

40 Hello, Weasel! Sorry for not being there in TX this year. Got in some practice this weekend w/ my CC9 and Colt Python snubnose as penance. I tried to shoot as many rounds as I could w/ the CC9 using only one hand. I tried to get through a whole box of ammo for the Python shooting it only in double action. Both still need improvement.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (z32fn)

41 Glad to hear the MoMee went well, as is usual. Hope those indulging liked the Texas Lanceros and Undercrown Maduros. Two favorites, one even with an appropriate name!

As my SEAL buddy (who lives down towards Austin) always said when we'd finish one of our RSO duty days, any range day that ends safely for all is a good range day.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (U/Byj)

42 Whig, glad to hear you are on the range again!

Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (LMRVO)

43 Good job, whig, Glad to know you're out and about doing important stuff.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:24 PM (eGzf1)

44 My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM

It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:21 PM

Actually, I expect it will be mentioned rather more directly in about 12 months when another offer of sunscreen is made.

I should probably mention, for the uninitiated, that I was, in fact, at the MoMe. I'm home now, since I only live three and a half hours from Corsicana.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:25 PM (VmDLh)

45 The 5906 and 5946 are two all steel heavy pistols which is why I chose it for my first trip out. Weight makes felt recoil less and the 5946 weight about 40 oz without ammo putting it close to an all steel 1911 with a much punier cartridge. Felt recoil was fine, arm strength though to hold it over time started to fade on 10 round strings though and as said above, I could tell it was time to quit.

FWIW, if your accuracy starts dropping off over extended shooting with your initial shots on target--it is either a grip/trigger fundamentals starting downhill or declining strength issue or both.

Quit shooting in that case and reevaluate what the cause is on the next string. Concentrate on Weasel Trigger Fu and fundamentals and if that doesn't help, then it is likely your hands and arms might be done for the day. Not much different than shooting long arms, you can shoot perfectly accurately but then start to fade as time goes on. That is a time to quit before you start in developing bad habits.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:26 PM (E4rtv)

46 Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (z32fn)
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Missed seeing you Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (abgnT)

47 I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

If you have to stop, the Quik Trip in West Memphis just before the casino is a nice one.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (E4rtv)

48 Once again, it was a blast. I even got to shoot a little. The spawn had a blast on the Texas star with weasel buddy and then Steck. It was fun just watching them shoot clean up.
I know the spawn shot close to 1000 rounds on Saturday alone, the majority in 9mm.
She wasn't as successful on the rifle range Sunday but did get the Springfield 1903 out to 200 years before it started hurting too much.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (VCgbV)

49
Ate whole pig 2 ways

Must be fifty ways to eat whole pig.

Posted by: Paul Simon at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (Cqx++)

50 Missed seeing you Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (abgnT)

And I REALLY missed being there and seeing everyone too. Even w/ the driving, the MoMe would have been more fun than the work I had to do last week or what I'll have to do this week.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (z32fn)

51 Duty day was this past week. Again, surprised at the paucity of guys coming and taking 10-15 shots with their scoped bolt-action rifles. This time of year typically swamped (for first few hours) with such traffic.

Thanks to a self-inflicted (apparently) condition, was in no shape to shoot. Probably over-did a particular phase of a resistance workout and currently have trouble putting on a shirt.

But there was a very nice, somewhat crazy Mexican-American guy, with his two nieces, taking them for their birthday shoot. I opened our smallest range for them and stayed late so they could finish their shootin'. He had an impressive quantity/variety of boom-sticks and pistols he brought. One of the nieces, um, well, beautified the range dramatically, made it easier to indulge their after-hours shooting.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (U/Byj)

52 Great news, whig. Hope this is first step on the road to more and more activity.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:30 PM (U/Byj)

53 The combination of good food, good discussions with intelligent people, the chance to shoot (and/or to learn more about shooting), or to take a long weekend off just to relax your mind make it a wonderful and unique event that every moron should aspire to attend.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2026 07:31 PM (hOUT3)

54 Evening all.
Sad to have missed the MoMe for the first time since I moved. Next year for sure. My orange hat safely stored.
Whig so happy to hear are back at the range.
Today's range report coming up.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 07:33 PM (kJmSS)

55 Am I the only one who gets watching the Sci-fi movies?

Posted by: Skip at October 18, 2026 07:33 PM (Ia/+0)

56 Hrothgar, it was so lovely to see you and receive a hug. Thank you, my friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (ua/lL)

57 Glad to hear the MoMee went well, as is usual. Hope those indulging liked the Texas Lanceros and Undercrown Maduros. Two favorites, one even with an appropriate name!

Posted by: rhomboid

Thanks so much for those contributions! The Undercrown Maduro was very nice; I'll have to look for it at my local place. I was a little intimidated to take on the Texas Lancero right away, but brought one home for sometime I have a LONG time to devote to it.

Posted by: She Hobbit at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (ftFVW)

58 sock_rat_eez, Blake, and RI Red, thanks. I have been practicing dry fire but live fire is a lot more fun.

Next trip might be AR time or at least my Rossi 357 lever action carbine even though I hate firing rifles on an indoor range. The other option is a revolver shoot. I have always found shooting revolvers, particularly snubbies to improve my rifle shooting. You have to do everything just so on snubbies for accuracy which carries forth on shooting rifles again.

Just glad pain after was not excessive and I could still hold aim true on the pistols I shot. It was the strength that was lacking in the hands and arms plus some technical issues with both pistols. Haven't shot the High Standard ever as I bought it and cleaned it up about two years ago. Last time I shot the 5946 was about 5 years ago because at that time, I was using a Springfield XD-45 for a house gun.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (E4rtv)

59 rhomboid, thank so much for your very generous donation of the cigars. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (ua/lL)

60 Ruger Suspends Production of Several Major Models

https://shorturl.at/PH5te

"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)

61 I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)

I find that taking I-20 is a bit longer, but crossing the Mississippi at Vicksburg is a lot less congested than Memphis. Vicksburg is also a bit more conducive for taking a break from the road and exploring. The Vicksburg National Military Park Visitors' Center is less than five minutes from the I-20 exit, and there are some nice places to eat in the old Civil War era city center, some with great views of the oxbow lake that was the Mississippi in 1861-65. The salvaged ironclad USS Cairo is on display in the National Military Park. And Vicksburg isn't anywhere near as crime ridden as Memphis is.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:38 PM (z32fn)

62 Whig, good to hear that your return to the range was successful!

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (z32fn)

63 "Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM

I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)

64 56
Ben Had, it was great seeing you again and I cannot express how much all us Morons appreciate the effort and planning, that is required by you, Cow Horse Queen, and Rancher Bob (plus many others) to bring off yet another TxMoMe!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2026 07:41 PM (hOUT3)

65 truth, whig!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:41 PM (VyBeY)

66 Ruger ceasing production of SP-101, GP-100, and Blackhawk? Vaquero? Obviously I don't have their sales numbers if front of me, but ...... that's a lot of their historic core line-up for decades. ????

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (U/Byj)

67 I do not have a big cal single action
now I never will

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (/+uur)

68 I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)

I'm not sure how desirable the Ruger brand is in the collecting community, or if any of the individual models to be discontinued are more desirable than others. We'll soon find out. It's also possible that production could continue for some or all of these models, but only in batches with who knows how many years in between each batch.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (z32fn)

69 Bride of PI got shooting instruction from both Weasel Buddy Geoff, and Steck.

Needless to say, she is as happy as George on a giant patch of fresh clover.

We have determined that she has the exact same anticipation flinch as her husband.

Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?

I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.

Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (HlyYF)

70 Ye Olde refurbishment shop since last week is going okay. Have a stubborn barrel on a Lee Enfield No 4, Mk 1 to remove. Those were torqued to about 120 ft lbs or so against the barrel ring compared with the older No. 1. Mk. 3 which like most Mausers, has an internal ring that the barrel is torqued to rather than the receiver ring itself. No. 1 barrels are a lot easier to remove.

So, I either cut the barrel carefully around the receiver ring with a hacksaw, etc. which relieves the torque, or I take it to my gunsmith to remove as he has a hydraulic press barrel vise which gets barrels off and he has a lathe to use a parting tool if it comes to that. The receiver is a relatively uncommon BSA No. 4 Lee Enfield and has the original WWII barrel so I might just do better to buy a receiver from Sarco that already has its barrel removed. Problem is that it is a Fazakerley No. 4 Mk 2 which uses a few different parts than the No. 4 because the trigger is no longer mounted on the trigger guard but instead on a new boss added to the bottom of the receiver. You come across converted No. 4, Mk 1 postwar to this standard under the No. 4 Mk 1/2 or 1/3 markings. Boss is brazed to reciever.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (E4rtv)

71 Sad to have missed y’all this year.

Good to hear it was a wonderful time and everyone left with the same number of holes they arrived with!

Who got the kitten?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 18, 2026 07:46 PM (yEz+x)

72 Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?

I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.

Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Don't do the music thing. Have to be able to hear range instructions.

Instead, look into buying a silencer and use a 22 LR pistol in the mean time to overcome flinch.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (E4rtv)

73 nurse, my business partner is going to take the kitten.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (ua/lL)

74 She Hobbit, those "lanceros" aren't as intimidating as they look. Nice, distinctive and medium profile (some say distinct citrus note). But is prudent to light one up when you've got time to burn. Those Undercrown Maduros are in my top 5 for sure. The cocoa note is always there.

Ben Had, you're more than welcome. You and your neighbors obviously are the ones who make it all possible. Feels good just to know I can add a little to one of the pleasurable activities.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (U/Byj)

75 Ben Had, I'm sorry I couldn't present my gifts to you and our hosts in person this year. I hope you liked them. If the USPS did its job, that is...

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:48 PM (z32fn)

76 Nurse, you were greatly missed.

Any chance you could bring your boys with you some year? I suspect they would fit in quite nicely.

That way you could get family time and Moron time over the same weekend!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:49 PM (HlyYF)

77 Well, glad y'all enjoyed Texas...

Mrs is recovering nicely, so Jr has promised to drag me to the next "group shoot"
(Every few weeks several will get together w/a category of arms for some range time)
This will be an AR15 gathering, with different makes, optics, and ammo and mags (I keep the Maglula)

It's always really fun and interesting...

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:50 PM (pfXMo)

78 I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)

I'm betting that the big single actions will greatly appreciate. My LGS had a dozen Ruger revolvers on their Gunbroker page and they disappeared overnight. I grabbed the last one they had, a .44 Magnum Dragoon, to throw in the safe for investment purposes. If I'm wrong, well, at least I have a .44 Magnum.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:50 PM (/9wBX)

79 EdLl, Thank you so much for your generous gifts, They did arrive and I apologize for not getting a card sent back to you.

I plan to rectify that on Monday.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:51 PM (ua/lL)

80 Well I just pulled out of Chicago
Partied old Chi-town 'round
Rollin' along that Interstate 10
Lord knows we're Texas bound

Hello Texas
Sure is good to see you again
Hello Texas
Sure is good to see me a friend

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 18, 2026 07:51 PM (/+uur)

81 I'm not sure how desirable the Ruger brand is in the collecting community, or if any of the individual models to be discontinued are more desirable than others. We'll soon find out. It's also possible that production could continue for some or all of these models, but only in batches with who knows how many years in between each batch.
Posted by: Ed L
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There are probably more hard core Ruger collectors than milsurp types by numbers. Particularly the different variants put out by big gun distribution warehouses.

This was a patently stupid decision by Ruger, perhaps, as a poison pill action because Beretta wants to buy Ruger and Ruger has been resisting. Beretta already has a big chunk of shares in Ruger.

Most of the remaining products are all derivative crap that you can buy as good if not better from other makers. Ruger was a leader in revolvers making probably the top best made factory production revolvers in the business--better than Colt, better than Smith and Wesson, and certainly better than Taurus. The reason was investment casting technology that Bill Ruger developed and that Ruger overdesigned all of his revolvers for extreme longevity.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (E4rtv)

82 Haven't kept up, but subtracting all those models from Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what? Quick glance the list includes almost every Ruger model I know, have shot, or thought about getting.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (U/Byj)

83 Pillage Idiot, I believe ear buds are a bad idea anywhere except at home. I believe they are a distraction but, that's because I depend on my ears for situational awareness.

Your mileage may vary.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:53 PM (eGzf1)

84 I'm betting that the big single actions will greatly appreciate. My LGS had a dozen Ruger revolvers on their Gunbroker page and they disappeared overnight. I grabbed the last one they had, a .44 Magnum Dragoon, to throw in the safe for investment purposes. If I'm wrong, well, at least I have a .44 Magnum.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Pretty much. Ruger owned that handgun hunting market/bear protection for average huntsmen in the field. Neither Smith nor Colt ever did as well in it.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:53 PM (E4rtv)

85 just look at what happened to Ruger Old Army prices after they were discontinued ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:54 PM (VyBeY)

86 perhaps, as a poison pill action because Beretta wants to buy Ruger and Ruger has been resisting."

Couple of us were talking about that the other day. That's my take as well...

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:54 PM (pfXMo)

87 Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what?"

*looks at 10/22s over there....

Heh

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:56 PM (pfXMo)

88 82 Haven't kept up, but subtracting all those models from Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what? Quick glance the list includes almost every Ruger model I know, have shot, or thought about getting.
Posted by: rhomboid

Derivative crap. The keltec derived designs for their cheap small pistols, the derivative Glock design for handguns, the derivative Savage barrel nut design aka American rifle, etc. Black day for people that like older Rugers.

They are keeping the Mini 14 (which is now vastly overpriced versus ARs), dunno about their American line of pistols, and they are keeping their Marlin/Glenfield models out so far.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)

89 Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (HlyYF)

Can't speak for any others, but the range at my LGS won't allow you to do that because doing so makes it even harder to hear the range safety officer issuing commands. I like whig's idea a lot better, especially if you're in one of the free states that don't require NFA registration.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (z32fn)

90 Well guys and gals, as much as I'd like to stay and chat, your ol' pal Weasel is pooped and going to bed. Hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (abgnT)

91 Ed L, I'm curious. Any general impressions to share on the CC9. It's on my short list for my next carry gun and have shot friend's briefly. Would need more range time to know for sure, but I had a good time with it. Seemed to fit my hand well. I've been told that HK focused on the ergonomics of making the gun's "grip" and distance to the trigger more like a bigger frame model.

Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)

92 87 Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what?"

*looks at 10/22s over there....

Heh
Posted by: man

You can get clone 10/22 receivers that are better made than Ruger's nowadays. Their elimination of their precision rifles was also a head scratcher.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (E4rtv)

93 Glad to hear the MoMe was spectacular as always. Missing everyone. To next year!

Posted by: Iris at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (286+n)

94 I’ll be honest and say that there were so many people that I met at the inaugural MoMe, that if forced to identify anyone in a police lineup, I may be able to remember 6 or 7 (excluding Ben Had and Weasel) and including Cybersmythe and Hadrian from my neck of the woods. I now have a lay of the land and know what to expect so next time, I might have enough chutzpah to stay longer.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (itAg7)

95 Everyone, there's something about The Horde I want you to understand.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
A fun atmosphere of camaraderie with like minded conservatives, talking, laughing, renewing old friendships and creating new ones. Lots of great food, drink and conversation in a comfortable venue with extremely gracious and enthusiastic hosts. There's beer, wine and hooch. And snacks. And food. Did I mention food? (Good Lord, they roasted an entire pig!)
And music. And karaoke. And dancing.

And yes, there's guns. But only IF you're so inclined. It's not a gathering of bunker mentality gun nuts. But if you want a place to bring your pistol or rifle and practice and learn from experienced shooters with a strong emphasis on safety, well, that America still exists.

This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)

96 I may have to move up my plans to get that LC Charger converted to 460 rowland now.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (P4bJX)

97 G'night Weasel!

safe travels!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (VyBeY)

98 Thanks for all of the ear bud advice.

I have never heard any of our good shooters mention using them, so I expected there was a good reason not to.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (HlyYF)

99 whig, excellent perspective on the Ruger situation, didn't know Beretta was looking to absorb Ruger. Like I said don't have the spreadsheets in front of me but hard to imagine that long list of iconic and new models doesn't represent a large % of their sales.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (U/Byj)

100 Iris,

We definitely missed you and Sharon.

I wanted Sharon to show off her new toy in a dazzling display of paper shredding!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (HlyYF)

101 Notice they said suspended. Some ppl are speculating that they will move production to antoher state.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (P4bJX)

102 Most important bit to calipers (after being able to read them) is them having both sets of jaws. So many things I need to measure the inside of some hole, pipe, etc.

Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (kU0PQ)

103 TxAnn, thank you so much for the delightful cookies. It was a pleasure to meet you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ua/lL)

104 85 just look at what happened to Ruger Old Army prices after they were discontinued ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Yep. Bill Ruger made markets by introducing new designs. The mgmt since he died seem to be typical MBA types that worried more about cheap derivatives of other company's designs rather than new path breaking ones for Ruger. Ruger used to have a fair chunk of the semi auto market with its P Series which promptly led to several relatively bad series of handguns under the new management. The SR series which never did particularly well compared to the P series and the newest American series that simply is not selling.

Even Smith and Wesson seem to be doing better recently than Ruger on new innovative designs as is Colt.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (E4rtv)

105 You can get clone 10/22 receivers that are better made than Ruger's nowadays"

I know. Youngling has a Brownells w/Kidd bolt and hardware, CF barrel.
It's really nice

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (pfXMo)

106 TxAnn,

Were you responsible for the themed cookies?

They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!

We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (HlyYF)

107 Had a decent day at the range working with my new Bodyguard2.Found I shot better one handed than two. I think I am tilting the gun and shooting lower left but groups were good. Then Iris picked it up and put four rounds in a nice tight group center target. I see a possible new purchase in her future.
Blaster was able to get the new pearl grips on my Kimber so it looks pretty again.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (kJmSS)

108 Guns and Ammo,
Ruger has confirmed that multiple firearm lines will be discontinued effective immediately, with many more to cease production by the end of 2026. Four revolver lines have already been sunset. These include:

LCR
SP101
GP100
Bearcat
The following lines will be going through final production runs through the remainder of the year, and will cease by the start of 2027:

SR1911
LC Carbine
PC Charger
PC Carbine
LC Charger
Redhawk
Super Redhawk
Blackhawk
Super Blackhawk
Single-Series revolvers
Vaquero
Ruger No. 1
77-Series rifles
Hawkeye
Ruger Precision Rifle

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (E4rtv)

109 10/22, right, forgot about that one. And whig yeah, Precision Rifle? Don't have one but have nothing but good things from those that do. Gotta be as you say some merger/acquisition strategery here. One of the prominent American gun makers just zeroing out a huge part of their line-up, including most of their iconic models, just seems odd.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (U/Byj)

110 Tonight's Highway Patrol...
He stole the car at 7:30... and the people of that area wake up early and noticed the car stolen at 7:45.

I think these Hollywood people don't know what "early" is, especially on a farm.

Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:05 PM (kU0PQ)

111 I use AXIL buds as ears. They work well, but I don't use the Bluetooth...

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:06 PM (pfXMo)

112 60 Ruger Suspends Production of Several Major Models

https://shorturl.at/PH5te

"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
This is sad news.

Posted by: Eromero at October 18, 2026 08:07 PM (LHPAg)

113 Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (E4rtv)

Thanks for the background about the Ruger/Beretta soap opera. Ditching their most storied products, especially the revolver lineup, would make for one heck of a poison pill. Ruger has dominated revolvers for nearly thirty years ever since S&W reduced their focus on revolvers in the 1990s and Colt abandoned them completely for nearly 20 years until 2017. I've never tracked Ruger in the collectors' marketplace. The only (maybe) collectible Ruger I have is an old 10/22 with wooden furniture that's practically new.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:07 PM (z32fn)

114 Home safe from the MoMeet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 18, 2026 08:09 PM (u82oZ)

115 Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ua/lL)

I cannot, I repeat cannot, thank you enough for the personal escort because I was pretty frazzled after missing a turn. It made all the difference! Look up southern hospitality in the dictionary and your picture is there. Thanks to Weasel for also being a great ambassador.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:09 PM (itAg7)

116 Thanks to all of the crew that pulled off another spectacular MoMe!

Ben Had and Weasel, Cow Horse Queen and Rancher Bob, as well as the chefs - Pete Bog and wife, and CBD.

Also big thanks to the RSOs that kept the ranges safe and efficient and great learning experiences.

And thanks to everyone else that moves tables to set up for meals, cleans up trash, and helps take care of our "guest ranch", etc.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:10 PM (HlyYF)

117 {{{PI}}} Here's a hug I would definitely have preferred to give you in person. I'm still having trouble locking back the slide on the Bodyguard. The thing is so tiny hard to get a grip but it fits in my pocket and hardly prints more than my phone.I think putting an optic on it will help. Next up, a holster.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 08:12 PM (kJmSS)

118 Disco Doof did make another fabulous MoMe appearance on Saturday night.

Yet again, Doof was taking a nap and missed the festivities.

(That guy has the worst luck!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (HlyYF)

119 Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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I have heard of shooters that play music on their electronic hearing protection but not on separate ear buds under ear muffs. The electronic hearing protection is made to let voices in but gun fire out. During competition the shooters can hear people talking but their hearing is protected from all the gunfire. I have sat on the firing line for the whole day with pretty much constant firing going on but can still hear the RSO commands.
You just need to look into different types of electronic hearing protection made specifically for gunfire noise. Do not use ear buds made for listening to music or phones.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (VCgbV)

120 Please consider this an open thread to discuss and analyze your TXMoMe experience!

Alas, never been, and didn't go this year. So, as usual, my experience was to read about it in AoS comments.

Late last night, it occurred to me that the TxMoMe is similar to Christmas. Weeks of anticipation and preparation, some enjoyment on the Eve of, then the big day finally arrives, with all the family, feasting, and fun. Then all too soon, boom! it's suddenly over. Except for those relatives who overstay and have to be ~~kicked out~~ encouraged to depart the next morning. Then the looking forward to Next Year begins.

Anyway, looks kinda like that from a distance.

Posted by: mindful webworker - and the clean-up after at October 18, 2026 08:17 PM (Cl/mc)

121 I use Axil earbuds now with the Bluetooth. I have used walkers and Grizzly before too. The Axils are also great about the wind noise. They worked like a champ Friday which was extremely windy.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:18 PM (VCgbV)

122 I like the AXIL xcor pro. Easy to operate (ambient sound on/off), and do a good job, even with larger calibers indoor...

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:20 PM (pfXMo)

123 BTW, the guy playing the escaped prisoner in tonight's Highway Patrol was the warden in an episode of The Virginian. Bit players did that a lot; it's part of what made TV in those days fun.

(He also played numerous policemen, guards, and a detective.)

Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:20 PM (kU0PQ)

124 FWIW, PSA has a good sale price on AXIL buds...

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:23 PM (pfXMo)

125 106 Were you responsible for the themed cookies?
They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!
We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (HlyYF)

That was moi and thank you. It was my pleasure. I wanted to make something special and especially for those who aren’t from TX. And what is a MoMe without a semi automatic cookie right?

Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (itAg7)

126 I didn't shoot as much as I had planned at the MoMe (my wrist twitch kicked in again), but I want to thank Helena Handbasket for her patient instruction. I heard three pings, so I didn't waste all the rounds I took.

If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (55F0+)

127 {{{Sharon}}}!

I like the rack where you have the "U" formed by the index finger and thumb of the right hand on the grip, and you make the "U" of your left hand on the slide face directly opposite the other U.

You can then push your elbows closer together with the bigger muscles in your shoulders to rack the slide.

You might have to rotate your stance slightly to the right, so your weapon is facing in a safe direction down range when you rack that way.

You might clear your weapon and try it at home and see if that is easier for you?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (HlyYF)

128 Continued from Guns and Ammo story,

While these cuts are extensive, Ruger has plenty of major lines remaining that will be continuing onward:

Pistols: LCP, RXM, MAX-9, Security, Ruger-5.7 and Mark IV families.
Revolvers: Wrangler and Super Wrangler.
Rifles: American Gen II, American Rimfire, Precision Rimfire, 10/22, Mini-14, and Harrier AR-15s.

Ruger's Glenfield and Marlin product lines will not be affected by this announcement as well. The RXD suppressor lines, produced in collaboration with Dead Air, will also be unaffected.

Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)

129 I installed a pair of headphone speakers in an old pair of David Clarks years ago, solely to play the 1812 while firing the 629 snubby at overaged watermelons ... this was before ubiquitous phone camera videos, or it would have gone viral, lol.
haven't used them again, though I still have / use those muffs.

overall, would not recommend; I value the situational awareness far, far more.

when operating radio out in the parks I only use one earbud for the same reasons.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (VyBeY)

130 Ed L, I'm curious. Any general impressions to share on the CC9.
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)

Bottom line: I think it's worth the money. I'd recommend it, even w/o any optics.
Pluses:
- Accuracy: I shot 2" groups at 7 yards using both hands today. It'll do the job if you do yours.
- Ergonomics: I think it fits my hand better than any other compact carry 9mm handgun on the market. My benchmarks of comparison are the SIG P365 and SCCY. It's also a lot easier to field strip for cleaning than the Glock or SIG. It also comes with full ambi controls right out of the box.
- Reliability: I've shot several hundred rounds through my CC9 in the last year or so. The only malfunction I've had was a dud round, so it wasn't the gun's fault.

Minuses:
- Cost. This is the biggest minus. You can get decent compact carry handguns for a couple hundred less than what H&K will charge you. Magazines are $50 each.
- 10 round magazine: The 10 round magazine leaves my pinky finger half floating in the air. I need to use the slightly longer 12 round magazine to get a full grip with all my fingers on the pistol.
- Stiff recoil spring: This might be a bit difficult to rack.

Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:25 PM (z32fn)

131 Harrier AR-15s."

They just bought Anderson last year... hmm. Did they overpay?

Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:27 PM (pfXMo)

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