Chris Rock: Wokeness is Like Old Testament Morality -- Lots of Rules and No Grace for Violating Any of Them

The comedian claims it's "great" that we never stop talking about the "marginalized," but says there has to be forgiveness for transgressions. Or, I'd call them, fake and gay non-transgressions.

Actor-comedian Chris Rock continues to blast wokeness, and is now accusing left-wing scolds of running a Salem Witch Trials-like campaign with their cancel culture attacks.
Rock has been taking shots at wokeness for a while, of course. He targeted the woke culture in his 2023 special Chris Rock: Selective Outrage . But in a recent interview on The Dailypodcast, Rock got explicit about woke culture and what it is doing to our country.
"The problem with wokeness is we're in the Old Testament right now," he said. "And the Old Testament has no forgiveness. The Old Testament didn't work. So they had to write a remix called the New Testament."
When asked if he felt there was anything "redeeming" that has come out of the last decade of woke leftism, he was not upbeat and noted that when things are "institutionalized" they often go badly.
"The Salem witch hunts. I'm sure the first three witches they caught were actually fucking witches," Rock said. "But then you open up a witch office and now you've got to start lying. Now you've gotta fucking make s-hit up because you've got overhead. You've got to justify the witch hunters fucking pensions and shit."

He added that the media is fake and full of liars, and that Trump is right to declare that.

Rock recently raised eyebrows during his press tour for his new film, Misty, when he said that Trump was right that the news media is filled with lies and fake news.
"I'm not a fan," Rock said of Trump last week. "But it's weird when somebody gets one thing right, and the one thing almost clears them of all their other sins. The news is fake. He got that right."

💥 Chris Rock Speaks Out Against the Democrats’ Woke Industrial Complex
“It's great to help those that need help. That is amazing. We need more of that. The problem is when you institutionalize it … Now you gotta start lying. Now you gotta f**king make shit up, cause you got overhead.”
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) October 3, 2026

The Rest is History podcast made an interesting analogy about wokeness. They discussed the Cathar heresy, which was violently suppressed by the Catholic church. I think they even declared a crusade.

Tom Holland claimed that the sudden explosion of heresy allegations during this period did not originate in the actual church, among priests or bishops. It actually originated, he says, in the greatly-growing population of university students at the time, almost all of whom studied religion to one extent or another.

The point he makes is that an oversupply of pointy-headed would-be intellectuals whose salaries are dependent on discovering new and exciting new heresies results, of course, in an overabundance of such accusations. When you pay someone to spin out accusations, they'll spin out accusations.

And the interesting bit is that he likens this state of affairs to current day wokeness. We have our own oversupply of would-be intellectuals unable to find gainful work or the status they crave except by discovering and enforcing new heresies, such as speaking ill of DEI or becoming an apostate to the Church of Marxism.

Interesting point, I thought.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:20 PM

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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 06, 2026 04:20 PM (Qt6Ls)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 06, 2026 04:21 PM (NcvvS)

3 Shorter Chris Rock: Eat me last.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 06, 2026 04:21 PM (4NO2D)

4 I love how they all have to say "I'm not a fan of Trump's" when they agree on something he says or did...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:22 PM (+gK6I)

5 The point he makes is that an oversupply of pointy-headed would-be intellectuals whose salaries are dependent on discovering new and exciting new heresies results, of course, in an overabundance of such accusations. When you pay someone to spin out accusations, they'll spin out accusations.

Spot. On.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 06, 2026 04:23 PM (Riz8t)

6 A lot of people on the left know their side has gone too far, but won't do anything to stop them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (N1DT3)

7 "The Salem witch hunts. I'm sure the first three witches they caught were actually fucking witches," Rock said. "But then you open up a witch office and now you've got to start lying. Now you've gotta fucking make s-hit up because you've got overhead. You've got to justify the witch hunters fucking pensions and shit."

I mean, he's not wrong.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (6ydKt)

8 Anyone got some fentanyl?

Posted by: Cornell cumdumpster at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (icbKL)

9 Rock, unlike Cleese, is still hopeful of milking money out of the Media Entertainment complex, so he has to temporize and sound like a little pussy.

Posted by: tubal at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (Gqar8)

10 Ace, 'would-be intellectuals' is more like 'self-anointed intellectuals'. Thomas Sowell has their schtick dead to rights.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (NcvvS)

11 Obama will be stumping for AbdulRAMAAAAAN in Michigan:

"The Oct. 24 event will feature Obama, as well as El-Sayed and Jocelyn Benson, who is seeking the governorship, the Michigan Democratic Party announced on Monday."

Let's hope the Obama Curse is in full effect. I will also accept a very localized asteroid strike.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (kpS4V)

12 Plus, his glasses are stupid.

Posted by: tubal at October 06, 2026 04:25 PM (Gqar8)

13 The point he makes is that an oversupply of pointy-headed would-be intellectuals whose salaries are dependent on discovering new and exciting new heresies results, of course, in an overabundance of such accusations. When you pay someone to spin out accusations, they'll spin out accusations.

This is the reason we went from macroaggressions, to microaggressions, to nano and picoaggressions, and are now approaching the quantum realm.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 06, 2026 04:25 PM (Riz8t)

14 I love how they all have to say "I'm not a fan of Trump's" when they agree on something he says or did...

Quoting Razorfist on X today:

"Trump is the gunfighter we hired to drive the bandits out of town. The necessary evil.

He was hated in office, and he'll be hated as he rides off into the sunset. But he was the exact person we needed at the time.

Anyone who's seen a Western knows this won't end with a parade."

Posted by: Ian S. at October 06, 2026 04:25 PM (4ObTi)

15 I love how they all have to say "I'm not a fan of Trump's" when they agree on something he says or did...
Posted by: It's me donna

"Don't burn my mansion down."

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 06, 2026 04:26 PM (Qt6Ls)

16
Let's hope the Obama Curse is in full effect. I will also accept a very localized asteroid strike.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (kpS4V)

I wonder if they will be sending him to texas to campaign for Talarico ? I bet Texas love him there....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:26 PM (+gK6I)

17 Rock increasingly resembles a lesbian. Especially with the glasses.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (bNf8H)

18 The Cathar were big proponents of suicide. One of two common reactions to taking the view that the material world is purely evil, sex cult(on the grounds that the flesh is already corrupted so it doesn't matter) or death cult(death as liberating the spirit).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (okun6)

19 Boy, if I was an African American Christian, Obama stumping for a Muslim who clearly hates anyone who isn't a Muslim or a non religious DSA member would convince me to vote for Al-Sayed . / s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (JrHfD)

20 Anyone got some fentanyl?
Posted by: Cornell cumdumpster

Got some khat.

Posted by: Hootie Blow-up Doll at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (UjdFS)

21 Does Obama realize the a lot of blacks consider him to be a useless windbag? I guess the Dems keep him from hearing that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 06, 2026 04:28 PM (ofacb)

22 I very much enjoyed Rock's video, "How Not to Get Your Ass Kicked by the Police." It was tongue and cheek, but there was a lot of truth in it. And, it falls in line with this subject matter (wokeness). In case you missed it:

https://tinyurl.com/ykdmdjj8

Posted by: Orson at October 06, 2026 04:28 PM (dIske)

23 "Trump is the gunfighter we hired to drive the bandits out of town. The necessary evil.

He was hated in office, and he'll be hated as he rides off into the sunset. But he was the exact person we needed at the time.

Anyone who's seen a Western knows this won't end with a parade."
Posted by: Ian S. at October 06, 2026 04:25 PM (4ObTi)

Yeah, but in most of those stories the townspeople were idiots to get rid of the gunfighter.

You celebrate the guy to let the next would be bandits know THAT is how far you'll go to stop them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 06, 2026 04:28 PM (N1DT3)

24 Apropos:

This illustrates how f***** disgusting the media are, a famous Soap Opera star died and the headline is about how one of the co-stars wrote in a memoir that she hated him.

He was a pretty popular soap star, but that's what they lead with.

They're just all a**holes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (XV/Pl)

25 4 I love how they all have to say "I'm not a fan of Trump's" when they agree on something he says or did...
Posted by: It's me donna
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It has been done here in the gray boxes too. More in Trump I but also between Trump I and Trump II.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (E4rtv)

26 The Cathar heresy was an occasion for extreme brutality; I believe an event in this terror was the origin of the phrase "Kill them all, God will know his own."

A town was attacked by the King's army and the residents had all closed themselves up in the cathedral. Many cried and shouted out they were faithful orthodox Catholics, they had nothing to do with the Cathars. The famous phrase was the commanders' orders to his men, and the entire town was slaughtered, faithful Catholics and heretics together.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (vEoWS)

27 I'd like a fucking pension. Where do I apply?

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (sFNX2)

28
He was hated in office, and he'll be hated as he rides off into the sunset. But he was the exact person we needed at the time.

Not all of Us...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (+gK6I)

29 It's known that bureaucracies start benign and then always evolve to perpetuate themselves.

Same with any organization or religion or philosophy.

Melei has shown the way when it comes to chainsawing the fat away, but it takes dire straits to bring a country to do this.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:30 PM (6ydKt)

30 Well, we know he never attended seminary with that take on the OT...

or maybe he did, I don't know what they're teaching in seminaries these days.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (vJrRc)

31 "The Oct. 24 event will feature Obama, as well as El-Sayed and Jocelyn Benson, who is seeking the governorship, the Michigan Democratic Party announced on Monday."

Let's hope the Obama Curse is in full effect. I will also accept a very localized asteroid strike.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (kpS4V)
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Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel not invited?

Posted by: mrp at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

32 Sorry, but I won't abide anyone standing up for the Cathars.

Fucking Cathars.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (guGkK)

33 17 Rock increasingly resembles a lesbian. Especially with the glasses.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (bNf8H)

What is it with older dudes in the entertainment industry transforming like this?

Severe testosterone deficiency?
Plastic surgery?
Being gayer than Liberace?

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (zpcJA)

34 Go against Marxism, your a opponent

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (Ia/+0)

35 I regularly watch The Rest Is History. Good stuff, but Tom Holland is pretty ghey.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (JzUSu)

36 Again with the comically large glasses. Does Hollywood shun any who opt not to wear them? Hey, you guys, let's all adopt Harry Carey spectacles. It's super cool!

Posted by: Eric Cartman, Special Olympian at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (0aYVJ)

37 dumb sock.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Sounding the Carnyx at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (0aYVJ)

38 The Woketards gotta protect their money grubbing rackets by crucifying innocent people.

But the Inquisition gets a bad rap.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (2GVsD)

39 I have a competing theory to the "over credentialed intellectuals bitter about low status" theory.

I think that is partially true, but there is a larger mechanism at play.

Humans have an inherent desire to show virtue to the community, and the weak do it by point out other's deviation from the agreed rules. Scolds.

Religion satisfies this need by giving people a rule book, and an authority to interpret and temper those rules. Without religion, many people still need an outlet to show they have virtue. Some need to show they are the authority and know the rules better than anyone.

I see these kids on college campuses ejaculate out their righteousness based on rules they were told but don't understand. They are not yet credentialed, but they have all the anger and bitterness already.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (pODHU)

40 "I'm not a fan," Rock said of Trump last week. "But it's weird when somebody gets one thing right, and the one thing almost clears them of all their other sins. The news is fake. He got that right."
- - - - - - - - - - - -
"So, Rock... Can I call... actually, I'm just going to call you Rock."

*stares*

"So, anyways, Rock: Trump's a bad guy, right? He's done all these horrible things. Grabbing kitties and all that."

*stares more, but with arched eyebrow; slow nod*

"But he's right about the news. It's fake news. Everything they've told you is a big, mother-effin lie. Even the weather. Especially the weather! Ain't that right, Rock?"

*an affirmative nod*

"Yep."

*arched, questioning eyebrow after a long pause*

"By the way... who was it that told you about all these evil, bad, wrong things that Trump did?"

*... stare*

Posted by: Another Anon at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (4h45B)

41 The guy played Ruby Rhod to perfection so yeah he's always had a bit of Dennis Rodman in him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (6ydKt)

42 22 I very much enjoyed Rock's video, "How Not to Get Your Ass Kicked by the Police." It was tongue and cheek, but there was a lot of truth in it. And, it falls in line with this subject matter (wokeness). In case you missed it:

https://tinyurl.com/ykdmdjj8

Posted by: Orson

I used to show that in Criminal Law class but stopped when the students started getting woke in Obama's second term. My point to them is a) police are not going to protect your rights in a stop, that is your duty, b) never be an obnoxious prick to cops on the side of the road with badges and guns. Take your arguments to court and protect your own rights by knowing them, not arguing with the cops trying to avoid taking a trip downtown.

They are not your teacher, parents, etc., and view their job as stopping crime and arresting criminals. Trying to insult and argue with them will result in worse things happening. Save it for an encounter in court with a judge and your own lawyer to prevent an educational beatdown resisting arrest on the side of the road charge.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (E4rtv)

43 41 The guy played Ruby Rhod to perfection so yeah he's always had a bit of Dennis Rodman in him.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (6ydKt)

That was Chris Tucker.

Posted by: tubal at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (Gqar8)

44 Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel not invited?
Posted by: mrp at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

Of course not. The El Sayeed Campaign strive to be judenrein.

Can't have THOSE kuffir pigs dirtying things up.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (N1DT3)

45 But the Inquisition gets a bad rap.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (2GVsD)

Nobody expects it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (guGkK)

46 32 Sorry, but I won't abide anyone standing up for the Cathars.

Fucking Cathars.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (guGkK)

You know what to do!

Posted by: zombie arnaud amalric at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (zpcJA)

47 All Hail Eris

How about an all expenses paid cruise to Yemen?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (2GVsD)

48 Fellow Spiderman played a heretic alongside Robert Downey Jr.

Posted by: MikeN at October 06, 2026 04:34 PM (ShgMC)

49 Would love to know Ace's favorite podcasts.

Posted by: Unsportsmanlike Conduct is a Capital Crime to Me at October 06, 2026 04:34 PM (QyMHz)

50 7 "The Salem witch hunts. I'm sure the first three witches they caught were actually fucking witches," Rock said. "But then you open up a witch office and now you've got to start lying. Now you've gotta fucking make s-hit up because you've got overhead. You've got to justify the witch hunters fucking pensions and shit."

I mean, he's not wrong.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (6ydKt)

Someone did some deep research on historical witch burnings in Merrye Olde England. Turned out that after making a database of all witch burnings for the last 1000 years or so, the researcher was surprised to find that over half of all that had ever been done happened in the 1640's - the decade when Britain was racked by civil war for years.

The suspicion/belief is that once central authority broke down for the most part, the easiest way to get rid of a neighbor you didn't like was to declare they were a Witch and burn them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 06, 2026 04:34 PM (vEoWS)

51 Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel not invited?
Posted by: mrp at October 06, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)
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Perhaps she wouldn't feel safe in an ululating mass of keffiyeh-wearing nut jobs?

Oh, she'll still vote for elSayed...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 06, 2026 04:35 PM (kpS4V)

52 43 41 The guy played Ruby Rhod to perfection so yeah he's always had a bit of Dennis Rodman in him.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (6ydKt)

That was Chris Tucker.

Posted by: tubal at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (Gqar

Shit.
Another pair of actors I now confuse.

That's like the fifth pair.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:35 PM (6ydKt)

53 And so it begins.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at October 06, 2026 04:35 PM (amcLV)

54 Would love to know Ace's favorite podcasts.
Posted by: Unsportsmanlike Conduct is a Capital Crime to Me at October 06, 2026 04:34 PM

Surely it's JJ and Charlie Brown.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 06, 2026 04:35 PM (4NO2D)

55 He's wearing the lesbian glasses like Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (rwcDN)

56 >>I'm not a fan," Rock said of Trump last week. "But it's weird when somebody gets one thing right, and the one thing almost clears them of all their other sins. The news is fake. He got that right."

Did it ever occur to you, Chris, that the reason you aren't a fan is because you believe the news that you call fake?

If you look at Trump's accomplishments objectively it's pretty hard to deny he's done an outstanding job despite all the powers aligned to derail him.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (viF8m)

57
Chris Rock can say whatever he wants, as long as he keeps Will Smiths wife's name out his mouth.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (OkYzo)

58 Tried to carry this forward from Germany Arrests, and managed to get willow'd anyway. Trying again!

Common sense is that he was probably spying for a country with a sufficiently heavy presence that a Cuck Heart would consider them the Man of the House. But not the ones there now, the ones when it happened:

74 from a Reuters article linked in the justthenews article:

https://tinyurl.com/3ujavnm9

Five years after his seven-year tenure as head of the BND foreign intelligence service ended in 2005, Hanning agreed with a former BND office manager to receive confidential intelligence information in exchange for payment, according to prosecutors.

So, 2010 and later.

Barack Obama
US President 2009-2017
Posted by: m at October 06, 2026 02:37 PM (odBC9)

According to Brave AI:

"The top nationalities by foreign citizenship (AZR data, end of 2010):

1 Turkey ~1,607,000
2 Italy ~520,000
3 Poland ~468,000"

Now Ukraine is a clear #2 with ~1.41 million in Germany, but that was not the case then. So kudos to NemoMeImpuneLacessit and whig, Turkey is a solid guess.

Posted by: SciVo at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (ke3zm)

59 OK, Chris Tucker has also had a little Dennis Rodman in him.

Chris Rock was the funnier one anyhow.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (6ydKt)

60 >>Posted by: Tom Servo at October 06, 2026 04:34 PM (vEoWS)

And Salem was much the same - women accusing a neighbor.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (NcvvS)

61
How much for one rib?

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (OkYzo)

62 Chris Rock can say whatever he wants, as long as he keeps Will Smiths wife's name out his mouth.

*ahem*

"mouf"

Posted by: Will Smith at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (guGkK)

63 Humans have an inherent desire to show virtue to the community, and the weak do it by point out other's deviation from the agreed rules. Scolds.

Religion satisfies this need by giving people a rule book, and an authority to interpret and temper those rules. Without religion, many people still need an outlet to show they have virtue. Some need to show they are the authority and know the rules better than anyone.
Posted by: bob
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The ancient Greeks would agree with this.

I don't particularly as I think it is more protean than that. People try to raise their social level and drop those of their rivals. Men do it via aggression--verbal or physical, women by stealth and guile (veiled insults, social exclusion, etc.) but it is as if social signalling is going on to signify mating quality.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (E4rtv)

64 OK, Chris Tucker has also had a little Dennis Rodman in him.

Hopefully penicillin will help with that.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (4NO2D)

65 I doubt any other site on the Web would have arguments and comments about the Cathars. God bless this place

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (ofacb)

66 I used to show that in Criminal Law class but stopped when the students started getting woke in Obama's second term.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:33 PM (E4rtv)

____________________

Is that when you switched to John Houseman in "The Paper Chase?"

Posted by: Orson at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (dIske)

67
Yeah, but in most of those stories the townspeople were idiots to get rid of the gunfighter.

You celebrate the guy to let the next would be bandits know THAT is how far you'll go to stop them.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 06, 2026 04:28 PM (N1DT3)

Virtually every Clint Eastwood western had the "hero" gunfighter causing more mayhem and death than the bandits he was fighting.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (y9nCu)

68 64 OK, Chris Tucker has also had a little Dennis Rodman in him.

Hopefully penicillin will help with that.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 06, 2026 04:37 PM (4NO2D)

You know I couldn't waste that line.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (6ydKt)

69 The Cathar heresy was an occasion for extreme brutality; I believe an event in this terror was the origin of the phrase "Kill them all, God will know his own."
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*buffs fingernails*

Posted by: Arnaud Amalric at October 06, 2026 04:39 PM (amcLV)

70 The Cathar were big proponents of suicide. One of two common reactions to taking the view that the material world is purely evil, sex cult(on the grounds that the flesh is already corrupted so it doesn't matter) or death cult(death as liberating the spirit).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at October 06, 2026 04:27 PM (okun6)

A perennial (well not that often) problem the Church had early one was the 'drop out' groups. From pretty early on the Church had to be a going concern in the real world to give charity and food to the city of Rome and the areas they ruled as a secular state. This was a problem with the year 1000 end of the world fad. But they needed to keep people growing crops and working to keep the operation going.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:39 PM (uhVAy)

71 At Salem one of the accusers later recanted her testimony which resulted in a most scathing comment of "are you lying now or were you lying then?"

Lucy Craig's credibility is in the same oubliette.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:39 PM (2GVsD)

72 The Ragheads are burning down Paris, France...........

Viva La France and Praise Allaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!

Posted by: Jackson K at October 06, 2026 04:39 PM (fF0zR)

73

Actor Paul Rudd declared climate change to be “the issue” of our time and that the clock is currently ticking before it allegedly gets worse.

https://t.ly/h3g0X

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2026 04:40 PM (Cqx++)

74 Severe testosterone deficiency?
Plastic surgery?
Being gayer than Liberace?
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket
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Plastic surgery and excessive attention to grooming necessary in an age of 4k and 8k closeups. Compare them with Charles Bronson or even Clint Eastwood.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (E4rtv)

75 Who's Paul Rudd?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (2GVsD)

76 Actor Paul Rudd declared climate change to be “the issue” of our time and that the clock is currently ticking before it allegedly gets worse

Well, an actor says that. Okay then.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (guGkK)

77 Did it ever occur to you, Chris, that the reason you aren't a fan is because you believe the news that you call fake?

If you look at Trump's accomplishments objectively it's pretty hard to deny he's done an outstanding job despite all the powers aligned to derail him.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (viF8m)

Could also be a business decision. You have to toe the line in occupied America to get work.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (uhVAy)

78 75 Who's Paul Rudd?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (2GVsD)

Ant Man

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (+gK6I)

79 75 Who's Paul Rudd?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (2GVsD)

He was in one of those sit com shows or something, maybe.
Can't remember, can't be assed to look it up.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:42 PM (6ydKt)

80 Actor Paul Rudd declared climate change to be “the issue” of our time and that the clock is currently ticking before it allegedly gets worse

Well, an actor says that. Okay then.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (guGkK)

so he never uses a jet aircraft then? or air conditioning?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:42 PM (uhVAy)

81 Oh, a beta male in a failed Marvel comic movie franchise.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:42 PM (2GVsD)

82 Donal Drumpf did a weather, and now you gotta live in a police state to have winters again.

Posted by: Raul Pudd at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (zpcJA)

83 Ant Man

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:41 PM (+gK6I)

That's it.

1 was ok.

2 ....meh.

3 - wtf

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (6ydKt)

84 "Intellectuals" have been just making crap up for years. If they have exhausted the known facts and still can't come up with something new and different, they fail, so they just make it up. Look at eXcrement Kendi and his anti-racism garbage. Look at "women's studies," which used to be about home economics and now is about the evil patriarchy that prevents women from.... getting degrees in women's studies? Or some such shit.

I had an architecture professor like that. I didn't buy his garbage of architecture as sculpture schtick, and barely passed his useless studio class. Yes, architecture can be artsy, but if it doesn't function, there's no point. After all, it isn't a useful building if it doesn't have a toilet.

Same garbage.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (GYqb1)

85 Paul Rudd must need money.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (Qt6Ls)

86

Actually I like Ant man... The first movie anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (+gK6I)

87 Old joke: someone asked a Dominican, 'Why were the Jesuits instituted?' The Dominican responded, 'To dispute Protestantism.' Query: ''Why were the Dominicans instituted?' Response: 'To fight Catharism.' Query: 'Which was more successful?' Response: 'Talked with any Cathars lately?'

Posted by: Nazdar at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (NcvvS)

88 Gosh, I saw a really important podcast recently that I want to recommend to Ace but I have no record of it.

It was two guys I know but not well.

He was saying that Trump was heavily influenced by WWF and the art of drawing an audience, and Hulk Hogan. 40% of what he said was garbage, but this was a real insight and useful. He said that when WWF was losing audience, Hulk came out as a heel and it showed that people loved to hate him. It was great for the industry and for Hulk. He thinks Trump is doing the same in a lot of his tweets -- playing the heel just to get the audience and attention to a subject, and letting the facts of the subject get the glory.

He also talked about Dennis Rodman and how he went to Nork with globetrotters, met Kim, became friends, and that started Trump's interest in normalizing relations with them. As I said, he said a lot of junk, but the idea that Trump intentionally does things that people hate was very interesting. Anyone recognize the podcast?

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (pODHU)

89 >>Now Ukraine is a clear #2 with ~1.41 million in Germany, but that was not the case then. So kudos to NemoMeImpuneLacessit and whig, Turkey is a solid guess.

Do you what country is on Azerbaijan's southern border?

Iran.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (viF8m)

90 Even if he likes Trump he's smart enough not to say so in the wokism world.

Very few, like Mel Gibson or James Woods, are brave enough to speak their minds.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (hzuYO)

91 You show me a "witch" burning at the stake and I will show you someone who wanted her leasehold.

That really happened a lot in Europe. Women with Life Estate right to a house and land.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (36x1j)

92 Paul Rudd owns a candy store across the river from me in Rhinebeck. Co-owner is Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Everyone says Rudd is a nice guy, but he has Hollywood politics

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 06, 2026 04:44 PM (ofacb)

93 85 Paul Rudd must need money.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (Qt6Ls)

Bowing to the new American Gods.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:45 PM (6ydKt)

94 12 Plus, his glasses are stupid.
Posted by: tubal at October 06, 2026 04:25
————
Rock is sporting the typical Smart Girl™️ glasses the celebrities wear now.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 06, 2026 04:45 PM (4OUFp)

95 Is that when you switched to John Houseman in "The Paper Chase?"
Posted by: Orson

Heh. I wish. The era of professors being able to exile a student were gone by the time I started teaching. Hordes of administrators that were not professors saw to that. Old days, administrators were not permanent jobs but one that faculty had to cycle through as a service, not as a career.

Instead, I started showing bits and pieces of old cop shows like the original 50's Dragnet or old movies like Hitchcock's The Wrong Man to illustrate how the law had changed to address certain issues with policing over time.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:45 PM (E4rtv)

96 Does Obama realize the a lot of blacks consider him to be a useless windbag? I guess the Dems keep him from hearing that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 06, 2026 04:28 PM (ofacb)

he never cared about the blacks, that wasn't his power base.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:46 PM (uhVAy)

97 Only in a world ruled by socialist ants can it be cured of that malady of "climate change". Because the temperature of the Earf was perfect until humans and their combusty-thingies came along.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 06, 2026 04:46 PM (oPFtC)

98 Actually I like Ant man... The first movie anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:43 PM (+gK6I)

It was funny, nice plot, and had good action.
Fine for a Marvel film.

Afterwards, though, was a slow roll down.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:46 PM (6ydKt)

99 Oh, Chris... the Salem Witch Trials were in the late 17th century, long after advent of the New Testament, and their theoretical basis was in Congregationalist covenant theology. Not the Old Testament.

I sometimes look at some pig-ignorant celebrity talking about religion, or history, or guns, or decency, or some other concept he heard about this morning, and I wish there was some crooked pastor I could go to and denounce him as a witch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 06, 2026 04:47 PM (BI5O2)

100 Never EVER apologize to the left.

Not even a little bit.
Double down.

They will never forgive, they will incinerate you for your efforts.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:47 PM (W2Pud)

101 I think we should send Chocolate Jesus Obama to France to save their country with one caveat................

With a one-way Visa to STAY IN FRANCE FOREVER !!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (fF0zR)

102 Virtually every Clint Eastwood western had the "hero" gunfighter causing more mayhem and death than the bandits he was fighting.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (y9nCu)

For a short period, and then the mayhem and deaths should have been over.

Yeah, the mafia doesn't kill a lot of people when you do what they say, but that doesn't mean it's not worth it to fight back.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (N1DT3)

103
Leonardo Doh Caprio has put on a hundred pounds, which means his private jet burns more carbon for his trips to exotic locations to issue his climate scoldings from.

Posted by: Auspex at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (Y8DZL)

104 Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:47 PM (W2Pud)

Isn't today your Birthday ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (+gK6I)

105 Humans have an inherent desire to show virtue to the community, and the weak do it by point out other's deviation from the agreed rules. Scolds.

Religion satisfies this need by giving people a rule book, and an authority to interpret and temper those rules. Without religion, many people still need an outlet to show they have virtue. Some need to show they are the authority and know the rules better than anyone.

I see these kids on college campuses ejaculate out their righteousness based on rules they were told but don't understand. They are not yet credentialed, but they have all the anger and bitterness already.
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There's a great essay at substack called "All the Worst Features of Church". It lays out how the left learned (kept) all of the worst things about "church" and NONE of the good things (like grace). It goes into great detail and presents many of its examples from the standpoint of the young, who lack any vested interest in *ignoring* the hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The author is Mark Atwood.

Posted by: Crusader at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (TN0g+)

106 97 Only in a world ruled by socialist ants can it be cured of that malady of "climate change". Because the temperature of the Earf was perfect until humans and their combusty-thingies came along.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 06, 2026 04:46 PM (oPFtC)

Multiple Ice Ages and Hothouse Earths should be a clue somewhere, but you can't tax clues only specific toxic molecules.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:49 PM (6ydKt)

107 Q: Why did Antman cross the road?

A: To follow the other ants.

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2026 04:49 PM (UjdFS)

108
The Woketards gotta protect their money grubbing rackets by crucifying innocent people.

But the Inquisition gets a bad rap.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (2GVsD)

Even though the death toll throughout Europe was only about 5,000... in 200 years of the Inquisition.

Same shit with Pinochet, who only killed about 10k commies, virtually all of them in just a few months after the coup.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 04:49 PM (y9nCu)

109 "73

Actor Paul Rudd declared climate change to be “the issue” of our time and that the clock is currently ticking before it allegedly gets worse.

https://t.ly/h3g0X

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2026 04:40 PM (Cqx++) "

Ahahahahahahahahahaha!
*takes a couple of deep breaths*
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Thank you, I needed a good laugh; that may be an old one but still plenty funny!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 06, 2026 04:50 PM (VyBeY)

110 Only in a world ruled by socialist ants can it be cured of that malady of "climate change". Because the temperature of the Earf was perfect until humans and their combusty-thingies came along.
Posted by: Thrawn at October 06, 2026 04:46 PM (oPFtC)

It can't even be cured in theory, because climate change doesn't even describe a problem. Warming is something you might stop, but climate is the weather and its changes, so fighting climate change is like fighting climate itself.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:50 PM (uhVAy)

111 Same shit with Pinochet, who only killed about 10k commies, virtually all of them in just a few months after the coup.

*Swoon*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 06, 2026 04:50 PM (Qt6Ls)

112 100 Never EVER apologize to the left.

Not even a little bit.
Double down.

They will never forgive, they will incinerate you for your efforts.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:47 PM (W2Pud)

That's because apologies and forgiveness are power plays to narcissists.

They do not represent genuine emotion and a process to heal but instead are used as a tool of control.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:51 PM (6ydKt)

113 Now Ukraine is a clear #2 with ~1.41 million in Germany, but that was not the case then. So kudos to NemoMeImpuneLacessit and whig, Turkey is a solid guess.
Posted by: SciVo at October 06, 2026 04:36 PM (ke3zm)

____________________

If you dig a bit, you'll see that Hanning did quite a bit of intelligence work (and "diplomacy") in the private sector. Two of the biggest were Latvia and the United Arab Emirates. The former has no problem throwing money around because it is one of the biggest money laundering countries on the planet (worse than Ukraine), and the United Arab Emirates has a tendency to forego the ususal leg work, and just purchase everything they want.

My money is on Latvia as it ties into Ukraine. Latvia is very anti-Russia....and have reason to want intelligence on the region from other Western parties.

Posted by: Orson at October 06, 2026 04:51 PM (dIske)

114 >>Paul Rudd owns a candy store across the river from me in Rhinebeck. Co-owner is Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Everyone says Rudd is a nice guy, but he has Hollywood politics

I used to live near Steve Carrell. My nephew used to see him all the time when he was in high school because he worked in the local grocery store.

Everyone says Carrell is a great guy. He doesn't talk about politics which probably means he doesn't want to get cancelled.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 06, 2026 04:52 PM (viF8m)

115 Multiple Ice Ages and Hothouse Earths should be a clue somewhere, but you can't tax clues only specific toxic molecules.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:49 PM (6ydKt)

Never heard anyone describe why global warming would be bad. And it would definitely open up huge areas of Canada, Alaska and Siberia to cultivation of food.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:52 PM (uhVAy)

116 Bring the Pain is still a top 5 to 10 comic set. Highly recommended.

Posted by: ... at October 06, 2026 04:53 PM (vE0+H)

117 102 Virtually every Clint Eastwood western had the "hero" gunfighter causing more mayhem and death than the bandits he was fighting.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 04:38 PM (y9nCu)

For a short period, and then the mayhem and deaths should have been over.

Yeah, the mafia doesn't kill a lot of people when you do what they say, but that doesn't mean it's not worth it to fight back.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Small scale reply of Hobbes versus Locke.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (E4rtv)

118 Dave Chappell is funnier (or was).

There was one skit of him having diarrhea in the 1950's segregated bathrooms that I fell out of my chair over while laughing hysterically.

I did that also with a Seinfeld episode. Had to see the same show 3 times before I heard the dialogue (George goes to see a homeopath for his sinuses). I came close to death seeing it twice. Held laughter in the 3rd time to hear some of the dialogue and then cut loose. Every time that episode gets me.

I laugh unrestrained and loud... and it can count as cardio activity.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (hzuYO)

119 "And the interesting bit is that he likens this state of affairs to current day wokeness. We have our own oversupply of would-be intellectuals unable to find gainful work or the status they crave except by discovering and enforcing new heresies, such as speaking ill of DEI or becoming an apostate to the Church of Marxism."

What we as a society have is an over abundance of people who need to be offended so that they can feel that they are part of something and have a purpose.

From people calling the cops on kids running a lemonade stand to people in an hoa measuring the neighbors grass to write them a ticket because they broke the rules.

Go do a youtube search for "karens", there are thousands of videos off lonely butthurt people being stupid.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (I43vL)

120 My money is on Latvia as it ties into Ukraine. Latvia is very anti-Russia....and have reason to want intelligence on the region from other Western parties.
Posted by: Orson at October 06, 2026 04:51 PM (dIske)

But when this went down Latvia had little pressure from Russia as this is before all or nearly all of Ukraine action. And i'm not sure why the UAE would want too much info on Germany per se.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (uhVAy)

121 87, LOL

"Domini canes", indeed

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (VyBeY)

122 Isn't today your Birthday ?
Posted by: It's me donna

It is!

I’m officially old.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (W2Pud)

123 A lot of the Inquisition was to root out heresy among the Jews that had been forced to convert to Christiananity after Spain outlawed being a Jew.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM (774RX)

124
It is!

I’m officially old.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (W2Pud)

Happy Birthday

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM (+gK6I)

125 The Rest is History, they can be lefty assholes. Listening to the Little Big Horn and Custer, they really gloss over how some of the Indians treated people that trespassed on their land, just crossing into it, Men had their balls cut off, sclaped and the women were raped and Killed if sometimes they would take the kids other times they would just slaughter them, they did even worse if you were a opposing tribe. but the US Cavalry were worse according to them. You can't have a roaming band of lawless tribes killing and mutilating people wherever and whenever they wanted

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM (ubCxQ)

126 The famous phrase was the commanders' orders to his men, and the entire town was slaughtered, faithful Catholics and heretics together.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 06, 2026 04:29 PM (vEoWS)

The Cathars were heretics, which was considered a challenge to the political order as well as corrupting the Church. Their orgies, the suicides, the libertine behavior, was all very corrosive. I believe the town that was slaughtered did shelter Cathars, and there was no way to tell one from the other, since they lied. Also, sheltering Cathars instead of denouncing them was considered harboring the enemy, which made even faithful Catholics suspect.

It is rather like the asshats who try to defend illegal aliens as some kind of good influence on American society, when we can prove they are corrosive in just about every way. When that defense moves kinetic, bad things happen, even if the actors are Americans.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM (GYqb1)

127 Never heard anyone describe why global warming would be bad. And it would definitely open up huge areas of Canada, Alaska and Siberia to cultivation of food.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:52 PM (uhVAy)

It's been shown that the Medieval Warming Period was so nice they had grape vineyards in Scotland.

It wouldn't be the end of the world for a 1 to 2 degree increase in temperatures. At most, some flooding problems, maybe, but then follow the Dutch example or move inland.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt)

128 Yeah something I've been saying a while: the left is a religion but it has no salvation. There's no way to gain atonement, you cannot get forgiven. Your sins are eternal, even ones you were born with and have no control over like being a male, or white, or normal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (nIKjK)

129 🦦

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (W2Pud)

130 11 Obama will be stumping for AbdulRAMAAAAAN in Michigan:

"The Oct. 24 event will feature Obama, as well as El-Sayed and Jocelyn Benson, who is seeking the governorship, the Michigan Democratic Party announced on Monday."

Let's hope the Obama Curse is in full effect. I will also accept a very localized asteroid strike.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 06, 2026 04:24 PM (kpS4V)

Obama has been disliked by a chunk of the Left since nearly the beginning, once he started actually doing things and they realized that he was a blowhard with "preferences, not principles." We see him as a radical socialist, while they see him as a conservative corporate Dem; and the way to square that is by recalling that they have a powerful delusion that fascism is right-wing.

So the commies hate him for being the wrong kind of socialist, like how heretics are hated more than unbelievers. The DSA are arguably commies but really incoherent, and most Dems aren't them anyway; so the effect is hard to predict, but it's possible he could actually hurt them with the base.

Posted by: SciVo at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (ke3zm)

131 . And i'm not sure why the UAE would want too much info on Germany per se.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (uhVAy)
____________________

The UAE buys military equipment (inclusive of fighters) from the EU and Germany.

Posted by: Orson at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (dIske)

132 Happy Birthday, Nurse!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (VyBeY)

133 The Cathars were heretics

You can't fool me, Cathars are Star Wars cat people

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 06, 2026 04:57 PM (nIKjK)

134 Found it! (thanks to SI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PHoy_4Wi4

Title -- Dennis Rodman Was HUNTED After North Korea. Now Trump Has Him In The White House
Channel - Rich Does Politics and Badlands Media

There is a lot of chaff, and I disagree with a lot that was said, but the idea that Trump is playing the wrestling heel intentionally because that is how things get people emotional is pretty interesting. Scott Adams talked about this stuff, so if you were a fan of his thinking, you might like this.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 04:57 PM (pODHU)

135 Happy Birthday nurse!

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:57 PM (6ydKt)

136 So, what? 15 years and $800 billion dollars later?

@HopeSeck 1h
It’s official: US Army’s improved M8 rifle to begin fielding in December

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2026 04:57 PM (nEUC6)

137 122 Isn't today your Birthday ?
Posted by: It's me donna

It is!

I’m officially old.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (W2Pud)
*********
Nah...my 96yo grandmother used to say, "It's just a number."

Happy birthday!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 06, 2026 04:58 PM (hzuYO)

138 Happy birthday, Nurse!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 06, 2026 04:58 PM (nIKjK)

139 128 Yeah something I've been saying a while: the left is a religion but it has no salvation. There's no way to gain atonement, you cannot get forgiven. Your sins are eternal, even ones you were born with and have no control over like being a male, or white, or normal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Fear is a useful tool for oppression far more than violence in many cases because it internalizes the oppression to make people do what you want them to do. So making people fear you is more efficient than individually having to violently assault them for compliance. Besides, they might just kick your ass having nothing left to lose.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 04:58 PM (E4rtv)

140 It wouldn't be the end of the world for a 1 to 2 degree increase in temperatures. At most, some flooding problems, maybe, but then follow the Dutch example or move inland.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt)

Flooding to make shallow seas and inland seas is a great place for biological diversity to explode. Cambrian, Ordovician - N.A was under water mostly. Permian lost all the coasts and was a huge mass extinction.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:58 PM (uhVAy)

141 The Cathar faith was very similar to Gnosticism. The Church had been crushing that almost from the beginning.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 06, 2026 04:59 PM (774RX)

142 I’m officially old.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (W2Pud)

Happy Birthday

Posted by: It's me donna at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM

Nurse! Happiest of birthdays!

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at October 06, 2026 05:00 PM (Sco7b)

143 A lot of the Inquisition was to root out heresy among the Jews that had been forced to convert to Christiananity after Spain outlawed being a Jew.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 06, 2026 04:55 PM (774RX)

Well that and likely the Muslims left behind when the rulers were pushed out of Spain.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:01 PM (uhVAy)

144 Thanks all y’all!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 05:01 PM (W2Pud)

145 Happy birthday nurse.

Posted by: ... at October 06, 2026 05:01 PM (vE0+H)

146 So the commies hate him for being the wrong kind of socialist, like how heretics are hated more than unbelievers. The DSA are arguably commies but really incoherent, and most Dems aren't them anyway; so the effect is hard to predict, but it's possible he could actually hurt them with the base.
Posted by: SciVo
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Shit Midas is a has been. Party lost a lot of seats with him in office. It would be as if Trump was toting GWB around to campaign for the GOP in 2016.

Political effect of endorsement and campaigning drops off almost linear fashion the longer one has been out of office. And Shit Midas has been gone nearly ten years now from the White House.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 05:01 PM (E4rtv)

147 https://tinyurl.com/Marxist-church

Its worth a read--shows how the left kept all the worst aspects of church while including none of the "grace".

Posted by: Crusader at October 06, 2026 05:02 PM (TN0g+)

148 The author is Mark Atwood.
Posted by: Crusader at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (TN0g+)

Thanks, I will read it later.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:02 PM (pODHU)

149 Flooding to make shallow seas and inland seas is a great place for biological diversity to explode. Cambrian, Ordovician - N.A was under water mostly. Permian lost all the coasts and was a huge mass extinction.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 04:58 PM (uhVAy)

There was a kid in my neighborhood when I was a kid who would go digging around the area and ended up finding these giant shark's teeth all the time. They were always so cool to me.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (6ydKt)

150
It wouldn't be the end of the world for a 1 to 2 degree increase in temperatures. At most, some flooding problems, maybe, but then follow the Dutch example or move inland.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt)

Personally, I don't believe that there would be ANY flooding problems. Warming in one area of the world means that another area gets colder. Rather like how the "permanent" ice cap in the Southern Hemisphere is always touted as shrinking in December... which would follow because December is MID-SUMMER in Antarctica.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (y9nCu)

151 122 Isn't today your Birthday ?
Posted by: It's me donna

It is!

I’m officially old.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM (W2Pud)

29? Again?

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (GYqb1)

152 Happy birthday!

Posted by: bonhomme at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (mkw2N)

153 141 The Cathar faith was very similar to Gnosticism. The Church had been crushing that almost from the beginning.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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And Gnosticism was based on exaggerated ideas of Zoroastrianism.

Heresies don't usually come from nowhere but someone 'borrows' old wine in order to put it into new bottles for modern consumption.

We recycle garbage thoughts more or less.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 05:04 PM (E4rtv)

154 Ironically, the Cathars were excellent neighbors.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 06, 2026 05:04 PM (w6EFb)

155 Trump got a whole lot more right

You amd your racist buddies just can’t stand it

Posted by: Gonzotx at October 06, 2026 05:05 PM (nGraA)

156 5pm

FoxNews - The Five - WITH EMILY! -

CBC - Quebec 'election' - give us more free shit

CNN - Trump visits Baltimore Shipyard, they continue to blow the President more and more. Lol.

MS Now - they're always bitching about something. WOLF! WOLF! It's saying 'Pussy.'

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at October 06, 2026 05:05 PM (Sco7b)

157 Personally, I don't believe that there would be ANY flooding problems. Warming in one area of the world means that another area gets colder. Rather like how the "permanent" ice cap in the Southern Hemisphere is always touted as shrinking in December... which would follow because December is MID-SUMMER in Antarctica.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (y9nCu)

Who knows, it's all so much BS.
It's still all weather to me.

Not much has changed since the late 70s around here as far as I can tell - hot 7 months out of the year, cooler the other 5..

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:06 PM (6ydKt)

158 Rock may have his points, but he clearly does not understand the Old Testament, nor its relationship to the New Testament, when he makes remarks like that. Forgiveness is written all over the Old Testament--but the message is, you can't earn it on your own.

Posted by: Ken at October 06, 2026 05:06 PM (vxSYT)

159 huh, the parallels he draws are quite exact.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 06, 2026 05:06 PM (VyBeY)

160 Personally, I don't believe that there would be ANY flooding problems. Warming in one area of the world means that another area gets colder. Rather like how the "permanent" ice cap in the Southern Hemisphere is always touted as shrinking in December... which would follow because December is MID-SUMMER in Antarctica.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (y9nCu)

There have been plenty of eras where the mean temperature of earth was higher than now overall, which is enough to show that the worst warmening fear is exaggerated. And in modern times the Antarctic ice cap is a huge source of cold that makes the entire hemisphere colder.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:07 PM (uhVAy)

161 It is!

I’m officially old.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2026 04:54 PM

Outstanding! I just had to sit through a ~~struggle session~~ training on how to reframe aging in our work. I look forward to applying its lessons at the TxMoMe!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2026 05:07 PM (/C5Rl)

162
I see these kids on college campuses ejaculate out their righteousness based on rules they were told but don't understand. They are not yet credentialed, but they have all the anger and bitterness already.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 04:32 PM (pODHU)

Is this before or after they snorted marxism off the crank of envy?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 06, 2026 05:09 PM (YSUhf)

163 I don't particularly as I think it is more protean than that. People try to raise their social level and drop those of their rivals. Men do it via aggression--verbal or physical, women by stealth and guile (veiled insults, social exclusion, etc.) but it is as if social signalling is going on to signify mating quality.
Posted by: whi

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Exactly, but religion channeled and tempered that.

Men also do it by showing value -- intelligence, loyalty, sacrifice. It is not all aggression. But we have a need to show virtue.

It is just not a "God shaped hole," it is a virtue shaped hole.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:10 PM (pODHU)

164 "The Salem witch hunts. I'm sure the first three witches they caught were actually fucking witches," Rock said. "But then you open up a witch office and now you've got to start lying. Now you've gotta fucking make s-hit up because you've got overhead. You've got to justify the witch hunters fucking pensions and shit."

Should be engraved in marble somewhere.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 06, 2026 05:10 PM (wGerL)

165 128 Yeah something I've been saying a while: the left is a religion but it has no salvation. There's no way to gain atonement, you cannot get forgiven. Your sins are eternal, even ones you were born with and have no control over like being a male, or white, or normal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 06, 2026 04:56 PM (nIKjK)

Atheism in general is lacking in forgiveness and excessive in judgment. If one can never make a mistake without being crucified for it, and the rules change daily, then what is the point of going on? That's how we get Karens, both male and female.

It is rather like the way Ol' Moe changed his mind about what Allah wanted based upon what Moe wanted, particularly concerning murdering Jews and raping children.

An Atheist forms his god in his own image. Rather self-serving, in the long run. And completely lacking in morals and/or ethics.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 06, 2026 05:10 PM (GYqb1)

166 There was a kid in my neighborhood when I was a kid who would go digging around the area and ended up finding these giant shark's teeth all the time. They were always so cool to me.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (6ydKt)

In my area growing up most of the rocks are Ordovician - trilobites, huge masses of coral-ish stuff, some brachiopod shells. The Appalachians had just been made and there was mass erosion to the East but it had not made the seas go away yet.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:11 PM (uhVAy)

167 Rock's glasses appear to be gay style. Any gay‐fashion experts (or gay and fashion experts) experts lurking that can confirm?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 06, 2026 05:12 PM (oPl2G)

168
Speaking of icebergs or ice shelves (installed by Ace) how does breaking free create the end of the world in "Digger"

Anyone seen the movie? cuz I don't get it.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 06, 2026 05:13 PM (YSUhf)

169 We recycle garbage thoughts more or less.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 05:04 PM (E4rtv)

The Great Heresies by Hillaire Belloc. A must read.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 06, 2026 05:13 PM (GYqb1)

170 I dislike when someone who is a lot woke themselves complains of the wokeness parts he doesn't like.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:15 PM (KC5Lt)

171 Warming does not scare me an Ice age does after seeing what the Glaciers left behind here in Ohio, you can't plant in the frozen ground and the lack of fresh water scare is just that a scare tactic, Cali lets Millions of gallons of fresh water out to sea.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 06, 2026 05:16 PM (ubCxQ)

172 Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 06, 2026 05:10 PM (wGerL)

That is a great observation and hilarious to boot.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:17 PM (KC5Lt)

173 Oh, Chris... the Salem Witch Trials were in the late 17th century, long after advent of the New Testament, and their theoretical basis was in Congregationalist covenant theology. Not the Old Testament.

I sometimes look at some pig-ignorant celebrity talking about religion, or history, or guns, or decency, or some other concept he heard about this morning, and I wish there was some crooked pastor I could go to and denounce him as a witch.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 06, 2026 04:47 PM (BI5O2)

Maybe he was slapped too hard...or not enough..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 06, 2026 05:17 PM (08OqX)

174 My mom says my brother and I were born in our 50s. She's probably right. I feel older physically each year but my personality never really does. I guess once I'm in my 50s for real it might change, but I kinda doubt it. I've been stuck in my ways since I was a toddler.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM (BI5O2)

175 128 Yeah something I've been saying a while: the left is a religion but it has no salvation. There's no way to gain atonement, you cannot get forgiven. Your sins are eternal, even ones you were born with and have no control over like being a male, or white, or normal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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That's a good point. I had not thought of it that way.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM (pODHU)

176 Woke is such a deadly mind parasite that completely takes over the natural state of humans.

That poll that shows that white liberals--and only white liberals--are the only group that has a negative affinity for those of their own race.
And that white, liberal women were even worse?

That's decades of constant abuse and beratement of their minds that all evils everywhere are the fault of whites.

And it spent near as much energy in corrupting as it did its defense:
That to even name it was to be called a racist.
To say nothing of daring to say, "this woke is nothing but anti-white racism;" that'd get you called a hood-wearing, card-carrying Klansman burning crosses and hanging Negros.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM (3cUTc)

177 In my area growing up most of the rocks are Ordovician - trilobites, huge masses of coral-ish stuff, some brachiopod shells. The Appalachians had just been made and there was mass erosion to the East but it had not made the seas go away yet.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:11 PM (uhVAy)

Thy don't teach geology or much of anything anymore, it's indoctrination, so people who fall for it just don't realize that earth has never been some stable system of perfection.

It isn't and won't be.

I always liked Carlin's take on it when they were complaining about plastics back in the 90s.

"The planet is fine. The people are f69ked."

https://youtu.be/Kmo8sh77G6Y

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM (6ydKt)

178 New Age religion is just old age heresies.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 06, 2026 05:21 PM (36x1j)

179 Non profit white woman CEO was fired for wearing cornrows she recently had done at the burning man festival. Black Karens cried about cultural appropriation. To her credit she's fighting back.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:21 PM (KC5Lt)

180 Nobody should be engaging in mystic gnosticism. It defies the natural order.

How it's to be prevented or punished is up for debate. I've always been a big canal guy, but I'm open to suggestions.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 06, 2026 05:22 PM (BI5O2)

181 166 There was a kid in my neighborhood when I was a kid who would go digging around the area and ended up finding these giant shark's teeth all the time. They were always so cool to me.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:03 PM (6ydKt)

In my area growing up most of the rocks are Ordovician - trilobites, huge masses of coral-ish stuff, some brachiopod shells. The Appalachians had just been made and there was mass erosion to the East but it had not made the seas go away yet.
Posted by: Oldcat

I lived in NJ. We once dug up an old Chrysler.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:22 PM (pODHU)

182 I always liked Carlin's take on it when they were complaining about plastics back in the 90s.

"The planet is fine. The people are f69ked."

https://youtu.be/Kmo8sh77G6Y
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM (6ydKt)

Yes, back when the ocean plastic was all the rage I just thought that if it got bad it would become a resource and people would go out and start mining it...which once people starting thinking on it actually happened. Another kid found easy ways to just break down the plastic.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:23 PM (uhVAy)

183 Barky was a Marxist rabble rousing

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2026 05:23 PM (Ia/+0)

184 I lived in NJ. We once dug up an old Chrysler.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus)
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Were you hoping it was Jimmy Hoffa?

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 05:23 PM (E4rtv)

185 Leonardo Doh Caprio has put on a hundred pounds, which means his private jet burns more carbon for his trips to exotic locations to issue his climate scoldings from.
Posted by: Auspex at October 06, 2026 04:48 PM (Y8DZL)

Has he?

Well, then it's time for him and Russell Crowe to have a Sumo Wrestling Championship for the Hollywood Sumo Crown.

Make it so Netflix!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 06, 2026 05:24 PM (YSUhf)

186 Non profit white woman CEO was fired for wearing cornrows she recently had done at the burning man festival. Black Karens cried about cultural appropriation. To her credit she's fighting back.
Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:21 PM (KC5Lt)

Nobody invented braids or knots. Or fashion for that matter.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:24 PM (uhVAy)

187 I lived in NJ. We once dug up an old Chrysler.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:22 PM (pODHU)

American Pickers had an episode where they dug up an old Indian motorcycle in someone's backyard. They also found a car engine during their dig. I think it was in NJ.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:25 PM (KC5Lt)

188 Woke is such a deadly mind parasite that completely takes over the natural state of humans.

That poll that shows that white liberals--and only white liberals--are the only group that has a negative affinity for those of their own race.
And that white, liberal women were even worse?

That's decades of constant abuse and beratement of their minds that all evils everywhere are the fault of whites.

And it spent near as much energy in corrupting as it did its defense:
That to even name it was to be called a racist.
To say nothing of daring to say, "this woke is nothing but anti-white racism;" that'd get you called a hood-wearing, card-carrying Klansman burning crosses and hanging Negros.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 06, 2026 05:18 PM

What I find ridiculous with the entire woke movement is that is for the most part it is white people sitting around bitching about white people being racist because of the color of their skin at birth. There are very few blacks involved in the entire process. The ones that are involved are held up as demi gods and their words are sacrosanct and they can't be questioned ever.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 06, 2026 05:25 PM (I43vL)

189 Barky was a Marxist rabble rousing
Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2026 05:23 PM (Ia/+0)

Sure, but that's common on the left. What made him go was his "Lightbringer" pseudo religious racial healing scam. Which was out the door on day 1 of being in charge.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 06, 2026 05:26 PM (uhVAy)

190 Just looked it up. The buried motorcycle was in Springfield, MA.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:26 PM (KC5Lt)

191 The Great Heresies by Hillaire Belloc. A must read.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Saint Irenaeus did it first. His book is unwittingly hilarious in describing at first hand the heresies about in the second century AD. Especially as he peels back the 'secret' nonsense that these cults used to hide their essentially silly beliefs.

He took no prisoners in his fight to stamp out heresies.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2026 05:26 PM (E4rtv)

192 187 I lived in NJ. We once dug up an old Chrysler.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at October 06, 2026 05:22 PM (pODHU)

American Pickers had an episode where they dug up an old Indian motorcycle in someone's backyard. They also found a car engine during their dig. I think it was in NJ.

Posted by: polynikes at October 06, 2026 05:25 PM (KC5Lt)

lol Bob

I saw that episode a few times.
They tore that lady's back yard up but finally found it after dark. What was left of the bike anyhow. It was at least 70% rust.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 06, 2026 05:27 PM (6ydKt)

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