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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 14, 2026 04:33 AM (D0X9e) 2
G'Day everyone
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2026 04:33 AM (Ia/+0) 3
Morning all.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 14, 2026 04:37 AM (BLOW1) 4
Modula-2? I haven't heard of that since basically forever.
And it's been three decades since I programmed in Pascal. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 14, 2026 04:38 AM (iIyc0) 5
Mornin'
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 14, 2026 04:43 AM (sAmhv) 6
Good Morning all!
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at September 14, 2026 04:44 AM (Q/FnY) 7
And it's not just weirdness for weirdness's sake. Superionic ice is thought to exist deep inside Uranus
Um, well... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 04:47 AM (l3cgK) 8
Bernie Sanders is proposing a 20 year prison sentence for people who think too much. (Tom's Hardware)
A penalty he will never need to worry about. A commie is going to commie. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 14, 2026 04:47 AM (sAmhv) 9
8 Bernie Sanders is proposing a 20 year prison sentence for people who think too much. (Tom's Hardware)
A penalty he will never need to worry about. A commie is going to commie. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 14, 2026 04:47 AM (sAmhv) I'm conflicted. AI is going to develop and promulgate regardless, but there are definitely dangers. Kinda the same thing with GoF with virii or bacteria...someone's gonna do it, and I bet lots of countries STILL have programs running full tilt. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 04:51 AM (l3cgK) 10
Keefe asked if the officer was suggesting the installer was entitled to privacy while working in public.
"So just to be clear, he’s entitled to his privacy in a public place?" Keefe asked. "Isn’t that the whole argument that people are criticizing Flock for?" Yes, the irony of the situation. Privacy (in Public) for me but not for thee. To be honest, I would also be worried if someone was following me wherever I went... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 04:56 AM (l3cgK) 11
Watched a good Russian movie on Tubi, Dear Comrade.
A fairly new movie about real events in 1962 in a Crimea region about a strike at a plant and a massacre that happened. Its subtitles, and done in B&W to give it a documentary feeling I think. Very good movie. Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2026 04:58 AM (Ia/+0) 12
4 Modula-2? I haven't heard of that since basically forever.
And it's been three decades since I programmed in Pascal. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent Yeah, Pascal is still in use (Delphi, Oxygene, Free Pascal) but Modula-2 has mostly disappeared. I'm implementing all three because once you have a Pascal compiler working, Modula-2 and Oberon are just toppings on the ice cream. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 14, 2026 04:59 AM (BLOW1) 13
For the misery of Communism you might not find a better example.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2026 05:00 AM (Ia/+0) 14
I'm used to the Hall & Oates version of "Family Man"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:01 AM (l3cgK) 15
12 4 Modula-2? I haven't heard of that since basically forever.
And it's been three decades since I programmed in Pascal. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent Yeah, Pascal is still in use (Delphi, Oxygene, Free Pascal) but Modula-2 has mostly disappeared. I'm implementing all three because once you have a Pascal compiler working, Modula-2 and Oberon are just toppings on the ice cream. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 14, 2026 04:59 AM (BLOW1) Last time I programmed in Pascal was...1984 or 1985, so 40+ YEARS AGO... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:02 AM (l3cgK) 16
♪She had sulky smile
She took her standard pose as she presented herself She had sultry eyes She made it perfectly plain that she was his for a price ♫ $20, same as in town? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:04 AM (l3cgK) 17
I'm conflicted. AI is going to develop and promulgate regardless, but there are definitely dangers.
Kinda the same thing with GoF with virii or bacteria...someone's gonna do it, and I bet lots of countries STILL have programs running full tilt. Posted by: Jim I hear you. Seems all the information out there about AI is propaganda, pro and con, so I'm not sure about any of it. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 14, 2026 05:04 AM (sAmhv) 18
WAVY 10 leads with gas prices and measles.
Posted by: Accomack at September 14, 2026 05:05 AM (GbONR) 19
Remember Mike Oldfield some but not that song
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2026 05:09 AM (Ia/+0) 20
13 For the misery of Communism you might not find a better example.
Posted by: Skip 'The Lives of Others' Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 14, 2026 05:10 AM (sAmhv) 21
The behavior of matter under such extreme pressures gets wild. These properties are so beyond anything familiar to our terrestrial experience, it's mind-boggling. And very poorly understood. Creating these conditions in a lab to actually observe some of the theoretical predictions is impossible, really. They can get close sometimes, but it's still unknown. Anyway, the notion of solid, liquids, gas/vapors, the big three states of matter, and then plasma as a fourth, just don't cut it at these extremes. If you think the deep interior of Uranus, or Jupiter, or even the Sun is exotic and extreme, those are nothing compared to neutron stars. That is some truly unknown territory. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:11 AM (w6EFb) 22
g'mornin', 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at September 14, 2026 05:11 AM (AMvSw) 23
Gurss I have to head down the road, at least not as far as been going.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2026 05:13 AM (Ia/+0) 24
If you think the deep interior of Uranus, or Jupiter, or even the Sun is exotic and extreme, those are nothing compared to neutron stars. That is some truly unknown territory.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:11 AM (w6EFb) Some of the theoretical conditions inside neutron stars are indeed wild, with strange matter forms predicted under certain circumstances, even beyond just neutrons. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:14 AM (l3cgK) 25
"Yeah, Pascal is still in use (Delphi, Oxygene, Free Pascal) but Modula-2 has mostly disappeared. I'm implementing all three because once you have a Pascal compiler working, Modula-2 and Oberon are just toppings on the ice cream.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 14, 2026 04:59 AM (BLOW1)" Apparently you can still get Turbo Pascal (with the now needed DosBox). I might give it a try for old times sake. That last programming I mentioned was driving a laser and acquisition system (PMT, HP oscilloscope, etc.) for a supersonic free-jet expansion experiment. In 1991. My, how time flies. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 14, 2026 05:15 AM (iIyc0) 26
Last time I programmed in Pascal was...1984 or 1985, so 40+ YEARS AGO...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:02 AM (l3cgK) - Anyone up for some RPG II coding fun? Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 14, 2026 05:15 AM (D0X9e) 27
26 Last time I programmed in Pascal was...1984 or 1985, so 40+ YEARS AGO...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:02 AM (l3cgK) - Anyone up for some RPG II coding fun? Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 14, 2026 05:15 AM (D0X9e) never used that, but I did use Fortran back around 1988... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:16 AM (l3cgK) 28
"Anyone up for some RPG II coding fun?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 14, 2026 05:15 AM (D0X9e)" Do we get to do some Job Control Language while we're at it? Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 14, 2026 05:19 AM (iIyc0) 29
Nortel's Protel and Protel-2 languages incorporated Modula-2 concepts, IIRC.
That was used to write code for their switches, so you won't find (I think) find examples in the wild for general computing. Google seems to know something about it, probably due to some poor sods having to support whatever Nortel DMS hardware that's still out there processing calls. Posted by: Richard Cranium at September 14, 2026 05:24 AM (svAV9) 30
Flock workers are calling the cops on journalists filming them installing surveillance cameras.
That company is going to end up making itself a pariah if it keeps going. Things don't go well for them or their equipment after that. In the UK, speed cameras ended up with tyres (tires) hung over the camera, filled with petrol (gasoline) and lit on fire. The public will only take so much before they decide to make disabling Flock cameras without getting caught a nighttime sporting event. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 14, 2026 05:27 AM (O7YUW) 31
Good morning, tech people from the non tech poster!
Here is a nice devotional by a man from the Gulf Coast of Florida writing on John 6:1-15 and "Gather the leftovers": https://tinyurl.com/mtzz2a5v Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 05:29 AM (JrHfD) 32
Yeah, "deconfined quark matter", and "quark-gluon plasma". The equation of state here is totally unknown. There's another wild notion -- "the continent of stability" as opposed to islands of nuclear stability. There's a predicted one at much higher atomic mass number than anything we've seen now. Now, go up even higher than that, > 300 - 450 nucleons per nucleus. At that point, things are predicted to get strange. The nucleus would no longer be a nucleus as we think of it. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:29 AM (w6EFb) 33
There's a lot of assumptions made between spectrograph and model.
All we can witness is the signal a neutron star kicks out, and make our best guesses from that about what could make such a signal. Maybe we're wrong about our assumptions to begin with, and the interior of these things is even more bizarre than we imagine. Who knows? Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 14, 2026 05:33 AM (Ot/FD) 34
From the Flock article: The officer told Keefe the installer was concerned about being identified.
I'll be over here with popcorn and appreciating the irony. Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 05:33 AM (BpO1e) 35
@xx/jim (in Kalifornia): "Kinda the same thing with GoF with virii or bacteria...someone's gonna do it, and I bet lots of countries STILL have programs running full tilt."
This is the same logic used in the dystopian trilogy by Hugh Howey: Wool, Shift, and Dust (some of which has already been adapted for television as the 'Silo' series.) Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 14, 2026 05:33 AM (O7YUW) 36
Uh, that was in reference to post 09. Time for coffee.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 14, 2026 05:34 AM (O7YUW) 37
Do we get to do some Job Control Language while we're at it?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 14, 2026 05:19 AM (iIyc0) - // EXEC PGM=HOARDE,PARM=MORONS Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 14, 2026 05:34 AM (D0X9e) 38
And I went with family to a lovely service in the late afternoon at the Anglican Church yesterday. The priest is a nice guy and a good preacher with helpful insights into the Christian life and a self deprecating humor. I like him. There are also a lot of college age students. Yesterday was "God winks at you" was a young man with a tee shirt with a logo saying "Got spirit?
With the list from "Galatians 5:22-23" on the back. I told him I liked his shirt. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 05:37 AM (JrHfD) 39
They call those superheavy nuclei "quark nuggets". It's a form of cold quark matter. The density of ordinary nuclei, mass per volume, is mind-boggling -- about a trillion times that of water. The quark nuggets would be denser, not all that much, but significantly denser. If these things exist, they could still form "atoms" as we think of, little clouds of electrons swarming around the nuggets. Up to a point. Get too much positive charge in too small a volume, and the near electric field gets too high, and there would some sort of breakdown of something. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:37 AM (w6EFb) 40
Heh.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 14, 2026 05:37 AM (iIyc0) 41
@37/Biden's Dog: "Do we get to do some Job Control Language while we're at it?"
I wonder if I could still write something in EXEC 2... Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 14, 2026 05:39 AM (O7YUW) 42
And as we were walking to the church we saw a striking plant, the kind of which I don't think I had ever seen before. It is "Aramanthus" also called "love lies bleeding":
https://tinyurl.com/56kraukx Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 05:41 AM (JrHfD) 43
and there would some sort of breakdown of something.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:37 AM (w6EFb) Mass and time and position are relativistic. Maybe Energy itself is, too. Get processes up in the TeV range and higher and suddenly your field equations become field... suggestions? Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 14, 2026 05:41 AM (Ot/FD) 44
I drink you milkshake!
Posted by: 80-year-old Chinese guy with a suanpan at September 14, 2026 05:45 AM (6W6ju) 45
And this woman ( Jennifer Nettles) is apparently a singer who has stressed that prayer is very important to her . Here she does a lovely rendition of "Go rest on that high mountain" which she performed for the 9/11 commmemoration in NYC:
https://tinyurl.com/3w2dc7cp Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 05:48 AM (JrHfD) 46
>> Get processes up in the TeV range and higher and suddenly your field equations become field... suggestions?
That gets up into the Unified Field Theory range. They've already unified EM and the weak nuclear force, dubbed the Electroweak force. That happens at energies around 200ish GeV. Now, to unify the EW with the strong (color) force, the predicted energy range is a minimum of around 10^14 GeV. That is a wee bit beyond the TeV scale. Just a little bit. Now, go even further, quantum gravity unification. That would happen only around the Planck energy itself, 10^19 GeV. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:49 AM (w6EFb) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:49 AM (l3cgK) 48
What? No mention of Python?
Posted by: Guido fanboi at September 14, 2026 05:50 AM (6W6ju) 49
Now, to unify the EW with the strong (color) force, the predicted energy range is a minimum of around 10^14 GeV. That is a wee bit beyond the TeV scale. Just a little bit. Now, go even further, quantum gravity unification. That would happen only around the Planck energy itself, 10^19 GeV. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:49 AM (w6EFb) LOL, yeah, just a WEE bit beyond... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:51 AM (l3cgK) 50
The public will only take so much before they decide to make disabling Flock cameras without getting caught a nighttime sporting event.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant And then they will post the videos online thereby defeating the purpose of not getting caught. Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 05:51 AM (BpO1e) 51
50 The public will only take so much before they decide to make disabling Flock cameras without getting caught a nighttime sporting event.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant And then they will post the videos online thereby defeating the purpose of not getting caught. Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 05:51 AM (BpO1e) with selfies. This age is so stupid... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 05:54 AM (l3cgK) 52
I should clarify that as if quantum gravity even exists. Quantizing gravity is ... difficult. It just don't work. It's gonna take a lot of new physics to figure that out. And the resulting theory will be likely be something really different than anyone is thinking. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:56 AM (w6EFb) 53
The Planck energy ain't that much, really, relative to human scales. It's only about the kinetic energy of a passenger airliner between take-off to cruising speed. Or about the chemical energy stored in a car's full tank of gas. Now, give a single subatomic particle that much energy. That's the Planck energy level we're talking. A single proton packing the kinetic energy of a jet airliner. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 06:01 AM (w6EFb) 54
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I should clarify that as if quantum gravity even exists. Quantizing gravity is ... difficult. It just don't work. It's gonna take a lot of new physics to figure that out. And the resulting theory will be likely be something really different than anyone is thinking. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:56 AM (w6EFb) And there are still a number of unanswered questions regarding how far the Standard Model can take us. There are some...hints...that there is something beyond. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 14, 2026 06:02 AM (l3cgK) 55
Now, imagine a particle accelerator trying to reach those insane levels. It's impossible to do that on something that would fit on the earth. All you need to do is accelerate a single proton to the energy of the jet airliner. That would be 99.999999999999999999999999999999999....99% c. That's all. Now, trouble is, with a linear accelerator, they have to get long. So they bend it around in circular paths. Now, that acceleration gets the particles to radiating. They start losing energy via EM radiation very fast. And the faster they go, the stronger the magnetic field to bend them in that tight circle. Run those numbers and it turns out you need an accelerator with the radius of ... the orbit of Neptune. And that just gets you to the GUT level energy. The Planck energy would be way bigger than that. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 06:12 AM (w6EFb) 56
Read the article about Uber and Lyft getting unionized in CA. It's cute how Newsome thinks this will magically lower prices.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 06:13 AM (BpO1e) 57
As I was a passenger in a car yesterday I watched people walking around. Almost all of them ( mostly under 30) were either carrying or talking on cell phones. I can understand carrying one if you don't have a pocket
and for emergencies, but I don't really understand talking on your cell phone when going for a walk. Why not look at the scenery or talk to the person you're with? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 06:13 AM (JrHfD) 58
Why not look at the scenery or talk to the person you're with?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke Not to mention the risk of someone trying to hurt you or steal your phone while you're distracted. Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 06:15 AM (BpO1e) 59
Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 06:15 AM (BpO1e
Yes; They're very distracted. I wonder if a lot of them don't almost get hit by drivers when crossing the road? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 06:17 AM (JrHfD) 60
Evening, late toilers! Morning, early risers! Yes, we know, it's Monday, which tends to reappear every 168 hours like this. But remember:
"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2026 06:17 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 14, 2026 06:19 AM (amcLV) 62
If you think the deep interior of Uranus, or Jupiter, or even the Sun is exotic and extreme, those are nothing compared to neutron stars. That is some truly unknown territory.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 05:11 AM (w6EFb) --- Science fiction author Stephen Baxter has had a lot of fun exploring this unknown territory in several of his books. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2026 06:19 AM (FZ29D) 63
I'm not ready to be awake. Seven hours' sleep last night, more than usual. Maybe that's the problem? Paradox!
Coffee will help with this. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2026 06:20 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: NR Pax at September 14, 2026 06:23 AM (BpO1e) 65
As I was a passenger in a car yesterday I watched people walking around. Almost all of them ( mostly under 30) were either carrying or talking on cell phones. I can understand carrying one if you don't have a pocket
and for emergencies, but I don't really understand talking on your cell phone when going for a walk. Why not look at the scenery or talk to the person you're with? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 *** If I'm walking for exercise, the phone stays at home or in the car. I also leave it in the car when I go into the library or any place that asks you to mute your phone. Simpler to leave it behind, methinks. I do bring it into the grocery or on any shopping excursion, so I can total up my purchases and add the tax using its calculator. This keeps me from being unpleasantly surprised when I get to the register. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2026 06:23 AM (wzUl9) 66
The highest energy particle ever seen to date was a proton, a cosmic ray, that hit the "Fly's Eye" detector in Utah in 1991. It's energy was on the order of 10^11 GeV, or around 10^20 eV. It's known as the OMG! particle. That energy was about the kinetic energy of a baseball at 60ish mph. One proton with that much kinetic energy. The OMG! particle still holds the record, but there's been quite a few more at that range detected since, call it the 10^10 GeV level. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 06:25 AM (w6EFb) 67
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2026 06:23 AM (wzUl9)
Yes. , but you are sensible and you and are also old enough to be the parents or grandparents of these young whippersnappers. 😉 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 06:26 AM (JrHfD) 68
I should clarify. The OMG! particle didn't directly hit anything on the ground in Utah, there. It hit some little molecule of N or O high up in the upper atmosphere, and produced a many miles long cascade trail of subatomic particles and radiation, which the detector detected. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 06:28 AM (w6EFb) 69
Yes. , but you are sensible and you and are also old enough to be the parents or grandparents of these young whippersnappers. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2026 *** The phone is a tool. I don't bring my screwdriver everywhere I go. (Of course my screwdriver does not offer vast amounts of information and entertainment at the flick of a finger.) Linda scrolls on that phone of hers a good part of every evening, and she's no teenager either. I don't get it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2026 06:29 AM (wzUl9) 70
The source of the OMG! particle is something of a mystery. It had to come from relatively close. Over vast intergalactic distances, it should have slowed down due to interaction with the CMB background. So it had to be somewhere "nearby" in cosmological terms. But it came from a pretty blank spot in the sky. It could've have been steered by some magnetic fields. Anyway, whatever produced it had to be something spectacular. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 14, 2026 06:32 AM (w6EFb) 71
Doing some sandboxing of what’s going to be a field rig for commissioning and engineering for this new project.
It’s currently running on a Linux mint rig running a vm of proxmox which in turn is running VMs of opnsense, win 11 enterprise, netbox, puppy Linux and MacOS. Everything is peppy except the MacOs vm, which is because there are no Mac intel graphics drivers, but I’ve got an amd rtx 570 coming that will fix that glitch when I fully deploy. The rig will eventually be on a minisforum ms-01, with 3 windows VMs, a Mac vm and 3 Linux VMs, for vendors to do their remote commissioning and run netbox, artista cloud vision and host of other goodies. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 14, 2026 06:32 AM (XV/Pl) 72
As distasteful as flock is, they are not installing systems Willy nilly, they are being paid to do so by local governments, so the fight is really with local governments and not flock.
As always, the real villain is government. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 14, 2026 06:37 AM (XV/Pl) Processing 0.01, elapsed 0.0172 seconds. |
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