Twenty Five Years After 9/11, Most Have Forgotten -- and the Children Who Were Born After the Terrorist Attack are Being Taught That Muslims Were the Victims and Americans the Racist Aggressors

How on earth was this allowed to happen?

Hijacking history: Woke teachers offer twisted 9/11 lessons focused on 'Islamophobia' -- not 2,977 innocents killed

Only two US states legally require that 9/11 be taught in public schools -- and the void is being filled with twisted lefty lessons blaming America, downplaying Islamic terrorism and portraying Islamophobia as the real tragedy.
The hijacked history of America's darkest day has created a lost generation. According to one shocking new study, two-thirds of American Middle East studies professors say college kids cannot identify who attacked the US on Sept. 11, 200,1 or why.
New York requires schools to observe a moment of silence on Sept. 11 and the state Board of Regents includes teaching about the attacks in social studies standards, but the state has no standard curriculum covering the attacks.
Only Arizona and Florida mandate that the 9/11 attacks be taught in schools. Ten states have statutes that encourage teaching about the attacks -- which could mean anything from a moment of silence, classwork, or a school assembly, according to an August University of Wisconsin Study.
"We made a promise to 'Never Forget', but today, only a handful of states require 9/11 to be taught in their schools," Rep. Andrew Garbarino (R- Long Island), who is pushing legislation to mandate 9/11 curriculum be taught in all 50 states, told The Post.
In the absence of mandatory standards, leftist activists -- some backed by billionaire George Soros -- are producing lesson plans filled with woke distortions of the attacks, even in New York City schools, according to an analysis from the North America Values Institute, an education watchdog.
"Teaching Beyond September 11th" -- a radical retelling of 9/11 that devotes a single paragraph to the horrific attacks and fails to refer to the murderous Islamic extremists as terrorists -- focuses lessons on "Right-Wing Extremism" and "Islamophobia and the Oval Office."

The curriculum was developed by the University of Pennsylvania's Graduate School of Education, and includes this passage: "On the 11th of September 2001, 19 hijackers flew two airplanes into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, one airplane into the Pentagon in Virginia, and a fourth into a field in Pennsylvania. A total of 2,996 people were killed, including the hijackers."

Never forget, the hijackers were the First Victims on 9/11.

Education departments in Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Wisconsin and Oregon all recommend "Teaching Beyond September 11th" in public schools.
The lesson does not provide the radical Jihadist motivations of the terrorists, and appears to equivocate on whether al-Qaeda mastermind Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks.

"The US accused Saudi national Osama bin Laden, living in Afghanistan at the time, of being the mastermind behind the attacks," the lesson states, without mentioning bin Laden's multiple confessions or his broader campaign of terrorism and declaration of Jihad against the US -- which he labeled the "worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind."
Other topics in "Teaching Beyond September 11th" include "Surveillance of Muslims," "The Muslim and African Ban," and "Muslim Youth and Resistance."

The Real Victims.

Oh, and I enjoy Muslim Youth and Resistance -- in other words, justifying Muslim violence on college campuses as heroic "resistance" against Jews trying to get to class without being spat on or punched.

A lesson on the 2005 riots over a Danish cartoon depicting the prophet Muhammad -- which caused the deaths of 250 people globally -- asks students to discuss how the media "presented certain values as more important than the fact that the cartoons were offensive and racist."
Zineb Riboua, a Research Fellow at the Hudson Institute, told The Post that the attempts to rewrite 9/11 history was part of a broader leftist project.
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The NEA, the national teachers labor union, provides resources for teaching 9/11 that quotes radical anti-Israel professor Edward Said calling the US "cruel and inhumane" and blaming the 9/11 attacks on America's support for the Jewish state.
The Voices Ethnic Studies curriculum used in Pittsburgh public schools teaches that the attacks led to "increased experiences with racism and Islamophobia," with no mention of how many people were killed or by whom.
A California ethnic studies curriculum reportedly stated that "9/11 served as a catalyst to bring about more blatant discrimination" and referred to America as a "colonizer."
The Council on American-Islamic Relations pushes 9/11 curriculum that accuses the US of "state-sanctioned Islamophobia" after the 9/11 attacks.
The woke propaganda appears to be having its desired affect, according to a damning new poll.
An overwhelming majority (66%) of American Middle East Studies professors believe that college students cannot correctly identify who the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks were or what its causes were, according to a poll released by the academic research nonprofit the Association for the Study of the Middle East and Africa.
The poll also finds that the historical hijacking is not limited to America's public schools. Two-thirds of Middle East Studies professors said that scholarly academic work actively runs cover for regimes, groups and ideologies that hate America, according to the survey of 470 respondents.
Not to be outdone, a woke NYC teacher has taken it upon himself to assign his students Osama Bin Laden's infamous "Letter to America."
Adam Feinberg, who teaches at Brooklyn's City Polytechnic High School, then has them answer questions based on the propaganda text, such as, "Why do you think Osama bin Laden hates Jews so much?"
Other questions include, "For what reasons does he believe that America is the 'worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind?'"
He also asks, "Find the word 'usury'. It means lending money with high interest rates. Why do you think Osama bin Laden disagrees with this?"
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Feinberg, who made $113,394 in 2025, routinely disseminates his leftist ideology on social media, such as sharing a meme mocking assassinated conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk shortly after his death. Feinberg did not deny the worksheet belonged to him but declined further comment.
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The goal of the curriculum is to "relate anti-Muslim racism/violence with other forms of racism and violence (e.g. Black Lives Matter; xenophobia, anti-Semitism etc.) in the United States and abroad," per its website.

750,000 NYC voters have no memory of 9/11 because they weren't even born when it happened.

Zohran Mamdani won his primary by only 129,940 votes.

Just 17% of post-9/11 voters, 1.7% of NYC, put the "globalize the intifada" guy in control of New York City. https://t.co/MLnOzwBoP7
— Spencer Pratt (@spencerpratt) September 4, 2026

It all started with this brain-damaged cokehead partyboy lib:

Only 6 days after 9/11, Bush, accompanied by CAIR and other Islamic leaders, visited a mosque and said, “Islam is peace.”

Since then, America has imported 4 million Muslims. 80% of all Muslims in America are the result of the post-9/11 decision to increase Islamic immigration. pic.twitter.com/x4CvzNr79V
— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) September 7, 2026

George Bush has always been sold as a man who met the moment. Even some of his haters describe him that way. “I didn’t like him, but he was great after 9/11.”

You can’t handle that moment worse than George Bush handled it. 20 years of war and Muslim calls to prayer in America. https://t.co/xQmgm9vyF3
— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) September 10, 2026

And this is what we got in exchange for our Wilkommen policy:

TERRIFYING: The Shia Muslim mosque of Dearborn, Michigan, pledged its allegiance to the Islamic Regime in Iran, calling the U.S. a nation of ‘Devil-worshipers.’

“America was built by Devil-worshipers. The Statue of Liberty represents Lucifer.

Ayatollah Khamenei was the… pic.twitter.com/Cd8b9ecBht
— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) September 1, 2026

🚨 Abdul El-Sayed in unearthed audio:

"9/11 scarred our country in profound ways, but what we did after 9/11 scarred millions of other people."

"When we talk about 9/11, we often fail to center them." pic.twitter.com/Xa8XOY2Tdb
— Bobby LaValley (@Bobby_LaVallley) September 8, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:20 PM

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1 FIRST!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 11, 2026 04:20 PM (iFTx/)

2 Nd

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2026 04:21 PM (tg5bM)

3 Mamdani Lays Wreath At Tomb Of The Unknown Hijacker

buff.ly/Fqnok61

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:22 PM (vC80E)

4 Sorry, but the only appropriate response if fuck you.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2026 04:22 PM (Pu/zx)

5 We have been centered, Abdul.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2026 04:23 PM (ZdaMQ)

6 We didn’t “scar” enough of you motherfuckers. But you can be sure we will never surrender to you cult, dickhead.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2026 04:23 PM (Pu/zx)

7 The Shia mosque in Dearborn needs to be raided by the FBI, it's imam jailed on charges of treason,and the building burnt to the ground with the earth salted afterwards.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 11, 2026 04:24 PM (2WIwB)

8 It happened because the Uniparty and the Media decided to make it happen. They fear the normies more than muzzies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 11, 2026 04:24 PM (xcxpd)

9 from prev. thread -
...Liu, who described himself as a native of Guangzhou, China, was caught on camera breaking into CBP computers and replacing processors and memory devices before re-inserting them into government networks.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:21 PM

I describe him as a spy. I think we have punishments for spying.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2026 04:24 PM (Dv3i1)

10 SeanDavis@seanmdav 2h

George W. Bush was personally warned in May of 2001–via a top secret memorandum marked “For the President Only”—that Osama Bin Laden was planning spectacular attacks against the U.S. using hijacked aircraft.

The May 22, 2001 memo, prepared exclusively for President George W. Bush, was entitled “Captured Terrorist Details Hostage Plot” and noted that “planning is under way for three separate operations[.]”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:24 PM (vC80E)

11 Teachers, man.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 11, 2026 04:25 PM (dK+Kv)

12 I'm going back to work and day-dreaming of islamic glass parking lots.

So many glass parking lots.

Cue 'Imagine' song....

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 11, 2026 04:25 PM (Sco7b)

13 How on earth was this allowed to happen?

Because heritage America lost the WoT thanks to Shrub, Obarky and the GOPe

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:25 PM (sKqQm)

14 I don’t know if it is because it’s the 25th anniversary, but I feel like there is more focus on 911 this year. The horror. More than in the past. Like there’s a resurgence of the thought about what happened that day. And the real reason behind it. And the anger that we should all have.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2026 04:25 PM (ZdaMQ)

15 And yes, in hindsight, GWB was an absolute tool.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2026 04:26 PM (ZdaMQ)

16 7 The Shia mosque in Dearborn needs to be raided by the FBI, it's imam jailed on charges of treason,and the building burnt to the ground with the earth salted afterwards.

Posted by: Diogenes
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Simultaneously, every mosque in America should be raided and searched.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:26 PM (vC80E)

17 As I noted earlier the Bush family's buddy-buddy relationship with the Saudis led him to the "religion of peace" crap. No more Bushes , no more Clintons, no more Kennedys (though RFK Jr is doing solid things)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2026 04:27 PM (N2HNb)

18 There are plenty of places they can go to practice their cult. Ask yourself- why are they here?

There’s only one answer. They hate us and want to conquer us from the inside.

Fuck you.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2026 04:27 PM (Pu/zx)

19 It all started with this brain-damaged cokehead partyboy lib:

One of the most revealing things we did was that the jailers at Guantanamo put on gloves before handling Korans, because Muslims consider infidels unclean.

As Mark Steyn noted, it's one thing for Muslims to think that infidels are unclean, and quite another thing for the infidels to agree with them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 11, 2026 04:27 PM (aD4fx)

20 15 And yes, in hindsight, GWB was an absolute tool.

Posted by: Piper
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More damning, the whole family was and still are tools.
_Skull n Bones is only the beginning

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:27 PM (vC80E)

21 Simultaneously, every mosque in America should be raided and searched.

Bets that they all have an armory in the mosque?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (aD4fx)

22 "islam is a religion of peace. Now let's fight them over there so we can import infinity brown people here!" - GWB

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (sCxmP)

23 Compare 9/11 with Pearl Harbor

With the later we went to a war footing immediately and devastated Japan the source of "radical Bushido" as a full on punitive response. We didn't import millions of Japs, and in fact interned the ones already here.

After killing 8% of their male population and nuking a few of their cities they were ready to stop being assholes, but if we fought WWII like we fought the WoT they would have won...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (sKqQm)

24 I blame GWB for whitewashing muslims while the fires were still burning.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (YwEeS)

25 How did it happen?

We responded to 9/11 with weakness. Instead of immediately nuking Kabul and Kandahar and anyone else who complained about it, we set off on a couple of campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq with no particular goal (talking about DC here) beyond making those countries better places to live for their women, for some reason.

And as mentioned in the post we imported the savages by the millions to prove how much we weren't actually resisting islam, so as not to piss off the regimes' buddies in Riyadh and similar hell holes.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (vSvIl)

26 F them. The thousands of people who simply showed up for work on 9/11 were slaughtered by the muslims ONLY because they're American. Not one of them was killed because they were islamaphobic or right wing or anything else -- only because they're American.

Posted by: LASue at September 11, 2026 04:28 PM (lCppi)

27 I regret all the mental energy I wasted defending that chimp.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (YwEeS)

28 I don’t know if it is because it’s the 25th anniversary, but I feel like there is more focus on 911 this year. The horror. More than in the past. Like there’s a resurgence of the thought about what happened that day. And the real reason behind it. And the anger that we should all have.

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I wonder if (finally) dealing with the Islamic republic brought it all back.

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (AKptf)

29 Hey Abdull....fuck you.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (2WIwB)

30 I think we would have gotten a lot more if we locked the jihadis in with flocks of pigs. Unfed pigs.

Hey Muhammed, I'm guessing in about another day those porkers are going to be hungry enough to try a taste of you. I know gross! But hey any chance you they you might remember where Osama is hiding before then? Because I do have another room with no pigs we could move you to instead...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (sKqQm)

31 >>> I don’t know if it is because it’s the 25th anniversary, but I feel like there is more focus on 911 this year.

I think it's in part because Gen Z, the first generation born after 9/11, is now the dominant voice in pop culture, and it feels to most people 30+ that "never forget" has become either "forgotten" or "trivialized".

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (sCxmP)

32 How many of those children were born from foreigner parents?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2026 04:31 PM (4KUe5)

33 My wife was pregnant 25 years ago today, and we realized that our child had been conceived in a different world than the one she would be born into.

And who back then could have foreseen that she would earn a campaign medal for a war that started before she was born?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:31 PM (ZOv7s)

34 We also gave Osama bin Laden an Islamic burial at sea, and recorded it as proof that we had done so.

There have been cases where the Russians have taken the corpses of Islamic terrorists, and buried them sewn up in pigskin shrouds, and recorded it as proof that they had done so.

Any bets which approach is more effective at deterring future terrorism?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 11, 2026 04:31 PM (aD4fx)

35 People scoff at my ideas about dissolving the Union, because they love borderline retards telling their kids they are infidels who deserve to be killed by Arab savages.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (BI5O2)

36

-- a radical retelling

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (Cqx++)

37 Funny how, twenty years after Pearl Harbor, even twenty-five, we didn't need assemblies and the like to remind us of the sneak attack. Our parents, who lived through it, taught us about it, and the media (then) portrayed it as a horrible event.

My mother was a young woman in 1941. She told me years later she was positive FDR knew about the impending attack, and didn't warn America because he *wanted* us to get into the European/Asian war. I hadn't been taught that in school or read it in any histories . . . but the evidence has been coming out in the decades since.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (wzUl9)

38 I remember being very moved by the (French?) headline that 'Today, we are all Americans'

Posted by: 496 at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (3iDiL)

39 We need more Oriana Fallaci types.

Posted by: beckster at September 11, 2026 04:33 PM (kX27y)

40 I would like to see full disclosure of all governmental communications and payments that brought muslims to the US starting from the Clinton admin on down to today.

I'd also like to know a lot of things we taxpayers paid for without our knowledge and consent.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2026 04:33 PM (Dv3i1)

41 I regret all the mental energy I wasted defending that chimp.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:30 PM (YwEeS)
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I (unironically) blame the Democrats. They could have picked a wartime nominee who understood what was at stake, but instead we got Swift Boat Lurch, John F'in Kerry who actually made Dubya look eloquent.

Dubya's colossal incompetence opened the window for Obama. Dubya is definitely in the bottom quarter of presidents.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:33 PM (ZOv7s)

42
it feels to most people 30+ that "never forget" has become either "forgotten" or "trivialized".

Never heard of it

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (Cqx++)

43 Reposting...

The NY Post caught a scene of he and AOC yukking it up during today's memorial, next to weeping families grieving for their mothers and fathers lost.

https://tinyurl.com/2a86buss

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (YjkhO)

44 I think I've reached my zenith of disgust today. It's pretty unbearable having to listen to any more stories of these foul maniacs, and the horrible erasure of what really happened on that fateful, tragic day, and the glorification of islamism and communism lurking right at the surface of these demonic creatures. All of them. My nausea/rage meter today has pegged past 11.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (qBdHI)

45 “Now let's fight them over there so we can import infinity brown people here!” - GWB

One of the things that 9/11 put the (temporary) kibosh on was comprehensive immigration reform. GWB and the Republicans were all in on it; the only reason we didn’t get was that Ted Kennedy and the rest of the Democrats didn’t want to give Bush the win.

During President Fox’s September 7 visit, Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) said that they’d had “an excellent week to really bring this topic to the forefront of the thinking across America”.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (olroh)

46 The Hawaii or pacific commanders knew that there was going to be an attack. Not necessarily at Pearl Harbor. That was a surprise, near as I can figure out.

It was also complicated by bungling diplomacy, a formal declaration of war was intended to be presented before the attack itself. This didn't happen, and pissed off a lot of people.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (2dVdu)

47 The NY Post caught a scene of he and AOC yukking it up during today's memorial, next to weeping families grieving for their mothers and fathers lost.

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Yep, flashing her mule teeth adorned with red lipstick.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2026 04:35 PM (qBdHI)

48 we set off on a couple of campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq with no particular goal (talking about DC here)
_____

We have bills to pay, politicians to feed.

Posted by: Military Industrial Complex at September 11, 2026 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)

49 Dubya's colossal incompetence opened the window for Obama. Dubya is definitely in the bottom quarter of presidents.

Lost two wars
Budget from $1.8T -> $2.9T
And did NOTHING domestically because "we have to focus on winning the war first"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:35 PM (sKqQm)

50 The vid you posted on X - the comments are full of Inside Jobbers.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026 04:35 PM (Gqar8)

51 There have been cases where the Russians have taken the corpses of Islamic terrorists, and buried them sewn up in pigskin shrouds, and recorded it as proof that they had done so.

A proper burial. Then backfill with pig shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2026 04:36 PM (tg5bM)

52 President Donald Trump is becoming 'more dangerous' as his mental state reportedly deteriorates, according to a Nobel Peace Prize-winning psychiatrist who has called for his removal from office.

Dr Henry David Abraham, who shared the 1985 Nobel with International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, told a radio show this week that the 80-year-old commander-in-chief now poses a heightened risk, particularly given his sole authority over the US nuclear arsenal.

… where in the wild wild world of sports were this clown when President AutoPen ruled the country ?

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2026 04:36 PM (g57eb)

53 New gayfather Guy Benson is heaping praise on GWB.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2026 04:36 PM (Cqx++)

54 My mother was a young woman in 1941. She told me years later she was positive FDR knew about the impending attack, and didn't warn America because he *wanted* us to get into the European/Asian war. I hadn't been taught that in school or read it in any histories . . . but the evidence has been coming out in the decades since.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (wzUl9)
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The failures of Army/Navy command and intelligence have been exhaustively mapped.

The people who think "FDR knew" don't understand naval tactics. Moving the Pacific Fleet to Pearl was indeed an aggressive act, like forward-deploying ground troops long a disputed border.

But if they had even thought Japanese aircraft carriers could have done what they did, it would not have happened. The Battleship School still held a lot of sway, and the raid on Taranto was waved off as Italian incompetence. Americans were too smart to fall for that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:36 PM (ZOv7s)

55 I think we would have gotten a lot more if we locked the jihadis in with flocks of pigs. Unfed pigs.

Hey Muhammed, I'm guessing in about another day those porkers are going to be hungry enough to try a taste of you. I know gross! But hey any chance you they you might remember where Osama is hiding before then? Because I do have another room with no pigs we could move you to instead...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026

***
Pig fat on our bullets. And be sure to let them know about it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:36 PM (wzUl9)

56 >>>Lost two wars
Budget from $1.8T -> $2.9T
And did NOTHING domestically because "we have to focus on winning the war first"

Hey he had some big domestic accomplishments..

No Child Left Behind
the TSA...

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2026 04:37 PM (sCxmP)

57 It has been said that after September 11 “everything has changed.” I hope that is not true. America must remain America, a symbol of freedom and a beacon of hope to those who seek a better life for themselves and their children. We must increase our security and improve our systems but in doing so we must not forget what has made this nation great—our openness to new ideas and new people, and a commitment to individual freedom, shared values, innovation and the free market. If, in response to the events of September 11, we engage in excess and shut out what has made America great, then we will have given the terrorists a far greater victory than they could have hoped to achieve.
—INS Commissioner James Ziglar, October 11, 2001.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2026 04:37 PM (olroh)

58 corpses of Islamic terrorists, and buried them sewn up in pigskin shrouds, and recorded it as proof that they had done so.

That was done by Black Jack Pershing dealing with murderous Moro muslims in the Philippines...

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:37 PM (YwEeS)

59 The fact that the Pacific fleet was re-located to Pearl in the first place was very controversial, and one commander was relieved for his protests. Thought it was a dumb idea.

Kimmel and others were hung out to dry, of course. Politically speaking it was a disaster for FDR, for re-election purposes but he was able to quash any investigative reportage for the most part, and somehow kept the Republicans from even deigning to make it a campaign issue. Had a more accurate and complete picture of the timeline and events been revealed at the time it is arguable whether he could have been re-elected.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:37 PM (2dVdu)

60 43 Reposting...

The NY Post caught a scene of he and AOC yukking it up during today's memorial, next to weeping families grieving for their mothers and fathers lost.

https://tinyurl.com/2a86buss
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (YjkhO

My observation on last thread was of course they are happy, why wouldn’t they be? Was candy passed out, was there ululating going on from the entourage?

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026 04:38 PM (Gqar8)

61 The Statue of Liberty represents Lucifer.
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The only reason I would be inclined to believe this is because we got it from the French.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 11, 2026 04:38 PM (XvL8K)

62 The vid you posted on X - the comments are full of Inside Jobbers.

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X is poison. Musk has his head in the clouds and his is full of lofty ideas, but this so called freedom of speech enterprise is hijacked, and has become an epicenter of waste, fraud and abuse.

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 04:38 PM (AKptf)

63 Yes it was GWB that started the unprecedented spending that Obama and Biden would expand on ( not that Trump is fiscally conservative either)

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:38 PM (YwEeS)

64 I wish we could go back to the pre-9/11 usage of the accurate term "fundamentalist muslims." Did W have something to do with the start of the use of the term "radical?" Nothing radical about the terrorists at all - they follow the source documents.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 11, 2026 04:39 PM (GMWTj)

65 Nobel Peace Prize-winning psychiatrist
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That sounds pretty gay

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:39 PM (2dVdu)

66 Like people have time to police that POS platform, and defend it from the billions thrown at it by jihadis, marxists and other trash.

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 04:39 PM (AKptf)

67 The problem is that nobody under 29 is reading this so you're preaching to the choir. We have a serious problem in the department of education.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (ATFmn)

68 How would you define an observant Muslim?

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (Gqar8)

69 The fact that the Pacific fleet was re-located to Pearl in the first place was very controversial, and one commander was relieved for his protests. Thought it was a dumb idea.

Kimmel and others were hung out to dry, of course. Politically speaking it was a disaster for FDR, for re-election purposes but he was able to quash any investigative reportage for the most part, and somehow kept the Republicans from even deigning to make it a campaign issue. Had a more accurate and complete picture of the timeline and events been revealed at the time it is arguable whether he could have been re-elected.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026

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Was the fleet moved in 1940 or earlier? FDR was re-elected in '40, before the attack, and then again in '44, when the war was winding down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (wzUl9)

70 Agincourt was an inside job.

Seriously. Look it up

Posted by: Just asking questions at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (CRErM)

71 59 Indeed it was the CINCPAC at the time who disagreed with FDR. Kimmel was his replacement. The fleet was just as big a deterrent based at San Diego and much harder to hit.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (YwEeS)

72 The Hawaii or pacific commanders knew that there was going to be an attack. Not necessarily at Pearl Harbor. That was a surprise, near as I can figure out.

It was also complicated by bungling diplomacy, a formal declaration of war was intended to be presented before the attack itself. This didn't happen, and pissed off a lot of people.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (2dVdu)
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The peacetime US military was a shitshow, with countless examples. It was one thing for the British to strike Italy, but the notion that Japan could move four carriers across the Pacific and dare to strike our battleships protected by land-based fighters was regarded as insane.

I mean, it's been explored ad nauseum and so many times we were thisclose to avoiding the trap with random chances, but the dice always went the other way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (ZOv7s)

73 I wish we could go back to the pre-9/11 usage of the accurate term "fundamentalist muslims." Did W have something to do with the start of the use of the term "radical?" Nothing radical about the terrorists at all - they follow the source documents.

Modern "radical" islam comes from Sayyid Qutb. But as you note all he did is say we show go back to the original Islam.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (sKqQm)

74 Well this sucks.

WSJ:

Iran used American-developed artificial-intelligence models to try to target U.S. Navy ships in the Middle East, according to an Anthropic report warning of emerging national-security dangers.

An Iranian-linked group compiled information from ship and aircraft transponders, military photographs and commercial satellite photos to track American warships and look for vulnerabilities in their ship-born communications, the report found.

Posted by: WisRich at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (G0vdT)

75 I wish we could go back to the pre-9/11 usage of the accurate term "fundamentalist muslims." Did W have something to do with the start of the use of the term "radical?" Nothing radical about the terrorists at all - they follow the source documents.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 11, 2026

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How about the terms "Moslem" or "Mohammedans"? I see nothing wrong with those.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (wzUl9)

76 912 Senate leader Daschle....tax cheat
House leader Hastert ....pedo

We couldn't win with a team like that.

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (thxmR)

77 Nobel Peace Prize-winning psychiatrist
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That sounds pretty gay
Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:39 PM (2dVdu)
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He does share it with a bunch of other poofters, so that tracks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2026 04:41 PM (FZ29D)

78 nobody is getting an education, attention span is nonexistent, and wisdom comes algorithms

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (AKptf)

79 The reasoning for this is that the left, globally, is now aligned with mohammedans. The socialists are doing this in order have foot soldiers who are willing to sacrifice their lives and to use violence to achieve the aims they share, namely the overthrowing of democracy. What the idiotic and suicidal lefties don't understand is that they will be the first to be beheaded once the mohammedans take power.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (0U5gm)

80 I kind of like X. I never would have heard of a "non-practicing white".

https://tinyurl.com/muyjpk3w

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (Dv3i1)

81 To be fair by the standards of 1941 US military preparedness and strength Pearl Harbor was tops.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (YwEeS)

82
How would you define an observant Muslim?
Posted by: tubal

Looks both ways before crossing the street.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (Cqx++)

83 74 And with that intel they hit jack shit....

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:43 PM (YwEeS)

84 We normies are learning faster and faster that the Constitution is, indeed, a Suicide Pact.

The crazies realized it decades ago and exploit it.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2026 04:43 PM (5rh/l)

85 Shrub could fuck up a one-car funeral.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2026 04:43 PM (tg5bM)

86 Gore and Kerry would have been worse. But everything W's enemies said about him being a jumped-up lackwit is correct. He's an indefensible uniparty stooge. To his credit, he did destroy the Bush brand.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at September 11, 2026 04:43 PM (ca8Qt)

87 >>>To his credit, he did destroy the Bush brand.

please clap

Posted by: Jeb! at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (sCxmP)

88 The "radical" Moslems are the guys who just want to be left alone like anyone else, run their restaurant or bakery without a load of government BS or whatever, maybe smoke a cigarette or have a beer now and then if they so choose and cook BBQ on the grill on a nice summer day.

The verbiage used to describe everything is horked. They mangle the language. By using vague euphemisms then reality is blurred. "Gender Affirming Surgery" sounds a lot nicer than Child Genital Mutilation, don't it?

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (2dVdu)

89 Indeed it was the CINCPAC at the time who disagreed with FDR. Kimmel was his replacement. The fleet was just as big a deterrent based at San Diego and much harder to hit.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (YwEeS)
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No, it wasn't. The Pacific is BIG, and so forward deploying ships was a way of sending a message that the US was serious. Remember, the Philippines were ours, and if we were going to have any hope of defending them, moving the fleet to Pearl was the smart play.

What we did not expect was that Japan would be crazy enough to do what the did, or that they even had that capability.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (ZOv7s)

90 How would you define an observant Muslim?
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026

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One who keeps his eyes open as to how foolish Americans are to trust him and his kind, and passes on reports of our weaknesses.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (wzUl9)

91 We normies are learning faster and faster that the Constitution is, indeed, a Suicide Pact. /i]

The problem isn't the Constitution at all. The problem is we allow the left's pretend version of it to guide our laws and actions.

Trump could have every illegal rounded up and shot and the Constitution is fine with it. Or he could put most of the GOPe and Dems on trial for treason. And on and on.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (sKqQm)

92 Ace:

"How on earth was this allowed to happen?"

Surely you jest.

The Long March Through the Institutions, that's how.

Leftists targeted the teaching profession and education as the FIRST and most important institution to "capture." And they were 100% successful, with almost zero pushback until the last couple years (which is still mild and futile).

The entire education infrastructure is 100% under the total control of absolute communists whose sole intent is to brainwash all children until they all hate America.

They're incredibly successful at this. (See: DSA.)

Of course the 9/11 curriculum is corrupted, a ludicrous stew of lies, disinformation, distractions and propaganda.

But 9/11 is just the tip of the iceberg. ALL curricula are similarly corrupted.

The "educators" don't even hide their agenda anymore -- at conferences, they brag how school is now nothing but a "revolution pipeline" to "train the next generation of organizers," etc. etc. They used to only whisper this, but then they realized" Why are we whispering? There's no one here but us!

Posted by: zombie at September 11, 2026 04:45 PM (Av6i5)

93 Agincourt was an inside job.

Seriously. Look it up
Posted by: Just asking questions at September 11, 2026

***
". . . That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:45 PM (wzUl9)

94 TBH I think we would have likely been better off if Gore did cheat to win in 2000.

I suspect after 9/11 he would have been forced to resign and perhaps we would have gotten a reformer in 2004 (perhaps Fred Thompson?)

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:45 PM (sKqQm)

95 60 43 Reposting...

The NY Post caught a scene of he and AOC yukking it up during today's memorial, next to weeping families grieving for their mothers and fathers lost.

https://tinyurl.com/2a86buss
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2026 04:34 PM (YjkhO

My observation on last thread was of course they are happy, why wouldn’t they be? Was candy passed out, was there ululating going on from the entourage?

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026 04:38 PM (Gqar

Did Mamdani give a speech today? I'm guessing no, because I haven't heard about one.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2026 04:46 PM (5rh/l)

96 The verbiage used to describe everything is horked. They mangle the language. By using vague euphemisms then reality is blurred. "Gender Affirming Surgery" sounds a lot nicer than Child Genital Mutilation, don't it?
Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:44 PM (2dVdu)
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I like Kissinger defining a "Moderate Iranian" as one who has run out of ammo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:46 PM (ZOv7s)

97 Under Rainbow (modified )the Philippines were still likely to fall no matter what

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:46 PM (YwEeS)

98
OT - sane black woman reacts to the news that holdout juror was a black man:

https://tinyurl.com/t2dw32jn

Posted by: beckster at September 11, 2026 04:46 PM (kX27y)

99 It was one thing for the British to strike Italy, but the notion that Japan could move four carriers across the Pacific and dare to strike our battleships protected by land-based fighters was regarded as insane.

I mean, it's been explored ad nauseum and so many times we were thisclose to avoiding the trap with random chances, but the dice always went the other way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Nobody mentions that the odds against it were about the same as the results in the battle of Midway.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 04:47 PM (0U5gm)

100 We do need muslims to subvert their religion - to sit on the couch, play video games and drink beer. We'd have way less violence that way.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 11, 2026 04:47 PM (GMWTj)

101
Yes, in retrospect, GWB was a feckless tool who mishandled the war, and helped bring about what you can call a muslim victory in New York and elsewhere in America by importing muslims and giving them a strong foothold in our heartland.

I definitely would like to have the ability to see an alternate timeline where:

1) All of the Saudi and Emirate Royalty involved in 9/11 are shot and/or tried and hung.

2) All muslims deported from the US and restricted from further entry.

3)And possibly nuking Mecca and Medina just to make sure, their phony-baloney "god" has no power on Earth.

I know, I know...

I denounce myself.

But, like Carter's mishandling of Iran brought further American death and problems, so Shrub's mishandling of the aftermath of 9/11 did the same within our country

Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.

hmmm...imagine that.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2026 04:47 PM (iJfKG)

102 I hope Adam Feinberg dies a martyr the same way Daniel Pearl (a far, far better man and Jew), did ... and preferably at the hands of a few of his eager pupils.

And tonight the judgement of the New Year begins. May the Holy One forgive both my rage and my timing....

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at September 11, 2026 04:48 PM (5ayY3)

103 What the idiotic and suicidal lefties don't understand is that they will be the first to be beheaded once the mohammedans take power.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

That's just silly!

Posted by: Queers for Palestine at September 11, 2026 04:48 PM (Dv3i1)

104 80 I kind of like X. I never would have heard of a "non-practicing white".

https://tinyurl.com/muyjpk3w
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2026 04:42 PM (Dv3i1)
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Yeah, I posted that earlier and agree, first time I've heard that one.

Posted by: beckster at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (kX27y)

105 >>> thisclose to avoiding the trap with random chances,

if only the USS Nimitz hadn't drifted back into that time vortex storm

Posted by: It's the final countdown.....do do do do do do do at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (sCxmP)

106 _James Smith Bush (June 15, 1825 – November 11, 1889)
attorney, Episcopal priest, father of business magnate
_Samuel P. Bush, (October 3, 1863 – February 8, 194

was an American steel industry executive
_ U.S. Senator Prescott Bush, May 15, 1895 - October 8, 1972
banker and Republican Party politician. Connecticut senator 1952 to 1963
_U.S. President George H. W. Bush, June 12, 1924 - November 30, 2018
--Barbara Pierce Bush (1925–201

, wife of George H. W.; daughter of publisher Marvin Pierce, distant cousin of 14th U.S. president Franklin Pierce, Second Lady and later First Lady of the U.S.
_George W Bush and fat little brother, banker Jeb Bush.

They’ve got a history. Don’t count them out but remember their flouncy ways and their associations. It’s a big flock.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_family

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (vC80E)

107 Elon Musk says that there won't be any need to work in 10 or 20 years. Imagine that only 1/10 of one percent of muslims are actually pious now - and with time on their hands in the future, that could slide up to there being a full one percent (10,000,000) actively planning and executing jihad. The post scarcity world is very scary.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (GMWTj)

108 Under Rainbow (modified )the Philippines were still likely to fall no matter what
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2026 04:46 PM (YwEeS)
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When you are wargaming it, you can make decisions like "this is untenable, we should just pull the troops out," but politically that would have been suicidal.

So, given you have to keep them there, you have to make a plan that gives them some chance of holding out. If the raid had been detected, things might have gone very differently.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (ZOv7s)

109 70 Agincourt was an inside job.

Seriously. Look it up
Posted by: Just asking questions at September 11, 2026 04:40 PM (CRErM)

Pffffft.

Posted by: Thermopylae at September 11, 2026 04:50 PM (B0NCh)

110 The left believes after they get rid of us they'll be banging jihadi boys in Mecca within a decade

The jihadis believe after they get rid of us they'll be banging leftist boys in NYC within a decade.

I tend to think the jihadis are more likely to be correct but I could be wrong

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:50 PM (sKqQm)

111 Hanged. The word you are looking for is hanged.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:50 PM (2dVdu)

112 Boy, oh boy. The ending is going to be fascinating to watch.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2026 04:51 PM (c1gcm)

113 I can't read this post but I don't really need to. These treasonous quisling bastards need to burn in hell and most of them probably will. I lived very close to the World Trade Center, 20 short blocks north. Saw the second Tower collapse from the roof of my building. Our friend Patrick Brown was the most decorated fireman in New York City and he was killed that day leading his men up in North Tower even after the First Tower collapsed.

So many memories. I was close enough for my apartment to be inside the military cordon area and we had to show ID to get on to our block, as the perimeter was kept by the National Guard with their M16s. Fighter jets screaming overhead. Missing friends who lived in Battery Park City. It just went on and on.

We wore gas masks out in the street the first few days. The smoke from Mordor would blow over our neighborhood whenever the wind was out of the South. Islam is a satanic death cult and it does not surprise me although it enrages me that momdani did his b******* commemoration at the Islamic Center. Afterwards he probably went to a toilet to jerk himself off. They really are masturbating over our grief.

Posted by: Beverly at September 11, 2026 04:51 PM (reMys)

114 So, given you have to keep them there, you have to make a plan that gives them some chance of holding out. If the raid had been detected, things might have gone very differently.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

If I recall correctly, the men in Fort Drum held out for a few months.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 04:52 PM (0U5gm)

115 When George Bush came out and told the most monstrous lie of this century, that Islam is a religion of peace, I knew we were f***** and we wouldn't do anything nearly as violently effective as we needed to do. My reaction was that we should have moved Mecca and dropped thermobaric bombs on Tora Bora.

Posted by: Beverly at September 11, 2026 04:52 PM (reMys)

116 Besides the weekend is here
The Cultural Marxist Seminaries teach nothing but Marxist Propaganda,

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2026 04:53 PM (Ia/+0)

117 An observant Muslim is simply a Muslim who faithfully follows what is written in the Q'uran and the Suras. That's all -- nothing more, nothing less.

Problem is, what is written in the Q'uran and the Suras.is

-- Slaughter all infidels
-- Islam is and alway will be supreme and the only acceptable mode of existence, and everything else must be destroyed.
-- Behead anyone who challenges or criticizes Islam.
etc. etc. etc., down to the "triviial" stuff like "It's OK to jack off by rubbing your cock on a a six-year-old's thigh and ejaculate on her vulva, but you must wait until she is 9 to actually insert your penis into her vagina," and "It'k not only OK but mandatory to beat your wife -- but only with a stick no bigger around than your thumb" so the bruises don't show.so much, and so on.

The trivial stuff gets all the attention, but the main message -- world domination, by force -- is the real problematic part.

Posted by: zombie at September 11, 2026 04:53 PM (Av6i5)

118 And tonight the judgement of the New Year begins. May the Holy One forgive both my rage and my timing....
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at September 11, 2026 04:48 PM (5ayY3)
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Have a sweet New Year. Do some Tashlich since it sounds like you're near the ocean.

Posted by: beckster at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM (kX27y)

119 Only 14 states have 9/11 in their puplic school curriculum.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM (hzuYO)

120 My reaction was that we should have moved Mecca and dropped thermobaric bombs on Tora Bora.
Posted by: Beverly at September 11, 2026

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First step on 9/12 should have been, every Moslem -- out of the country. No more to come in. We'll apologize to some of you later -- if necessary. Right now, OUT.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM (wzUl9)

121 I definitely would like to have the ability to see an alternate timeline where:

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2026 04:47 PM (iJfKG)

1) Having driven the Taliban from power, we found a local strong man who agreed to keep kicking their ass and we agreed to supply him with infinite guns and a mercenary air force so long as he kept the drug trade within tolerable limits and

2) Having overthrown Saddam, we found a local strong man who agreed to know who butters his bread and we would supply him with guns and he would pump oil for us. Basically Venezuela -1.0.

I actually thought that was what would happen, but instead we got all gay and retarded and starting trying to push literal gay - as if the Afghans didn't already do it!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM (ZOv7s)

122
Hanged. The word you are looking for is hanged.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:50 PM (2dVdu)

Nah.

Hung is defined as suspended by hanging.

Hung, hanged let's call the whole thing off.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2026 04:55 PM (iJfKG)

123 My mother was a young woman in 1941. She told me years later she was positive FDR knew about the impending attack, and didn't warn America because he *wanted* us to get into the European/Asian war.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 04:32 PM (wzUl9)

The problem with this scenario is that we didn't have to *LOSE* for FDR to get into the war. Any attack and any damage would have done to get into the war. The base was under high alert for a few weeks before Dec 7 and it was lifted that weekend. We had some intelligence the fleet was on the move but when nothing happened we figured it was bad intelligence. They had been delayed just long enough to hit us when we were recovering from the weeks of alert status.

The other problem is that we were essentially already at war in the Atlantic and incrementally extending our aid and coverage to England, fighting U boats over half the distance to England. Pearl Harbor eliminated our quasi neutral protection and in the next months our merchant marine and tankers were sunk in massive numbers.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 04:55 PM (uhVAy)

124 Treating terrorism, acts of war by state level actors or by foreign nationals on our soil as just another garden variety crime worthy of lawyers, civilian courtrooms with presumption of innocence, miranda rights, etc., is all fairy-tale nonsense.
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They pushed that slop on to America after the first WTC bombing in 93 or whenever it was.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:55 PM (2dVdu)

125 Islam *itself* through its own "most holy prophet" says that having sex with 9 year olds, committing genocide on Jews, and enslaving religion minorities is GOOD.

This isn't that some real world Muslims failing to live up to the ideals of Islam this is what Islam calls GOOD.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:55 PM (sKqQm)

126 I do wonder of Islam would be mostly a spent force if the US blew up the Kaaba stone in Mecca.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2026 04:56 PM (Dv3i1)

127 On her "Bridget Phetasy" website, she's done with "never forget",

Instead, she says, "Never Forgive".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 11, 2026 04:56 PM (8O9+I)

128 The NY Post caught a scene of he and AOC yukking it up during today's memorial, next to weeping families grieving for their mothers and fathers lost.

Leftists on social media are now claiming that it was an edited video.

It was a live broadcast, guys.

This is devastating for AOC's rumored Presidential campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 11, 2026 04:56 PM (aD4fx)

129
It's well past sundown in Israel, so the Jewish New Year, and Rosh Hashanah begins. Somebody call up Tuq'r and wish him happy Rosh Hashanah.

This will the the year 5787, Anno Mundi, the Year of the World. Tradition holds that Adam was created on Rosh Hashanah, which fell of the 6th day of the first week. Year 2 began the day Adam was created.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 11, 2026 04:56 PM (w6EFb)

130 How on earth was this allowed to happen?
__________________

They don't need lesson plans, or any organized disinformation campaign. They just need shallow, self-important, malcontents who need a cause to assemble some self-worth to their dreary lives.

Case in point....hours after a bunch of mouth breating savages from Hamas raped, pillaged, murdered, maimed and kidnapped innocent parties, large groups sided with them. Championed them. And, took it a step further by blaming those they attacked.

This is what you get when the media shapes the message, and those who receive it are not capable of critical thought or even considering the substance of the action(s).

Posted by: Orson at September 11, 2026 04:56 PM (dIske)

131 If I recall correctly, the men in Fort Drum held out for a few months.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 04:52 PM (0U5gm)
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US troops held out until April. If we had an intact fleet, Japan's options there would have been very limited, especially if we could fly in additional aircraft.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:57 PM (ZOv7s)

132 >>>
My observation on last thread was of course they are happy, why wouldn’t they be? Was candy passed out, was there ululating going on from the entourage?

Posted by: tubal
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They have landed, stormed the beach and taken the Jewel of the North without firing a shot.

Before Mamdani's gone, call to prayer will be emitted from the Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building and the new Towers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 04:57 PM (vC80E)

133 We normies are learning faster and faster that the Constitution is, indeed, a Suicide Pact. /i]

The problem isn't the Constitution at all. The problem is we allow the left's pretend version of it to guide our laws and actions.
=
The problem is that the Constitution was written for a different people than the evil bunch that inhabit the land today. There's no point trying to reapply it until all the foreign religions (islam, progressivism, etc) have been driven out.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at September 11, 2026 04:57 PM (vSvIl)

134 I actually thought that was what would happen, but instead we got all gay and retarded and starting trying to push literal gay - as if the Afghans didn't already do it!

I saw a video we made of the US government teaching art to Afghan women. The afghans were there mostly wrapped up in hijabs and we had American women in t-shirts presenting modern art like Duchamp's urinal to them.

And the afghan women looked so confused and disappointed..."this is what freedom and human rights look like? Piss pots as art?!?"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

135 There's another one! - "cultural" Marxist.

They are just Marxists. Right? Why or why not?

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 04:58 PM (2dVdu)

136 George W Bush and fat little brother, banker Jeb Bush.

They’ve got a history. Don’t count them out

Jeb saw what was in the envelopes. I count him out. With the cartels being brought down, the money laundering being mapped, I count him out.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2026 04:58 PM (c1gcm)

137 Listening to students in grad school, I surmise they have been taught that the "root cause" of 9/11 and all these wars, like WWII, are because of our racism and bad behavior.

It's frightening.

Posted by: Random PJ at September 11, 2026 04:58 PM (+jscL)

138 Only 14 states have 9/11 in their puplic school curriculum.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM (hzuYO)

Can't recall a single history course in public school that 'caught up' to modern history before the course ran out.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 04:58 PM (uhVAy)

139 The problem is that the Constitution was written for a different people than the evil bunch that inhabit the land today.
____

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: 11 Massachusetts jurors at September 11, 2026 04:59 PM (Dv3i1)

140 The other problem is that we were essentially already at war in the Atlantic and incrementally extending our aid and coverage to England, fighting U boats over half the distance to England. Pearl Harbor eliminated our quasi neutral protection and in the next months our merchant marine and tankers were sunk in massive numbers.
Posted by: Oldcat
________

Only because Hitler made his worst mistake of all (including invading Russia) and declared war on us. And then got no help from Japan with Russia.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 11, 2026 04:59 PM (XvL8K)

141 105 >>> thisclose to avoiding the trap with random chances,

if only the USS Nimitz hadn't drifted back into that time vortex storm
Posted by: It's the final countdown.....do do do do do do do at September 11, 2026 04:49 PM (sCxmP)

I kinda hate that movie. Great concept and then they pussy out and decide not to wipe out the Pearl Harbor attackers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 11, 2026 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

142 The problem with this scenario is that we didn't have to *LOSE* for FDR to get into the war.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 04:55 PM (uhVAy)
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Correct. The notion was that if the US fleet was attacked, it would savage the Japanese, giving us a victory as well as a justified declaration of war.

The fact that the declaration of war was bungled ultimately cost Japan everything, because against honorable opponents, we could show restraint, but against backstabbers, there could be no mercy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 05:00 PM (ZOv7s)

143 Ha! What was in those envelopes at the funeral? Jeb looked like he'd been punched in the gut.

Had to be a photograph, I'm thinking, based upon the speed of his reaction.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (2dVdu)

144 > Iran used American-developed artificial-intelligence models to try to target U.S. Navy ships in the Middle East, according to an Anthropic report warning of emerging national-security dangers.
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I'll put money on "the American-developed AI" being from Anthropic itself. They hate Trump. Trump should seize their assets. Enemy of the state. They supplied the intel. Bet on it. This was a CYA move.

Not kidding. Leftist assholes running the joint.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (2Cry5)

145 129
It's well past sundown in Israel, so the Jewish New Year, and Rosh Hashanah begins. Somebody call up Tuq'r and wish him happy Rosh Hashanah.

This will the the year 5787, Anno Mundi, the Year of the World. Tradition holds that Adam was created on Rosh Hashanah, which fell of the 6th day of the first week. Year 2 began the day Adam was created.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
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Happy New Year to all our Hebrew friends.
Celebrate Rosh Hashanah and the Sabbat
you have much work Monday.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (vC80E)

146 If I recall correctly, the men in Fort Drum held out for a few months.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 04:52 PM (0U5gm)
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US troops held out until April. If we had an intact fleet, Japan's options there would have been very limited, especially if we could fly in additional aircraft.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 04:57 PM (ZOv7s)

Japan had bases surrounding the Philippines on all sides, having a few more battleships would not have changed the fact that our war plans in 1940 or so had written off those areas until our fleet under construction came on line in 1943.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (uhVAy)

147 Qatar is a billion dollar donor/investor to the most elite schools in the US. It owns a ton of properties in NY. Now we have a generation of pro islamonazi jugend running around, and a jihadomarxist mayor in NY. Coincidence? I looking forward to the day Qatar is dirt poor shithole it was just a century ago.

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (AKptf)

148 139 The problem is that the Constitution was written for a different people than the evil bunch that inhabit the land today.
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*shifty eyes*
Posted by: 11 Massachusetts jurors at September 11, 2026 04:59 PM (Dv3i1)

Yeah. Our form of Republican government is only fitting for an overwhelmingly moral people, as stated before by far better men than me. In the hands of a degenerate population, sooner or later disaster must occur.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2026 05:01 PM (Gqar8)

149 Notes from an NYPD cop at Ground Zero

https://tinyurl.com/5hdjtcbm

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 11, 2026 05:02 PM (bkuEU)

150 Bush's "Islam is a religion of peace" -- what a mistake. "Come here and take us over without firing a shot. "

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 11, 2026 05:02 PM (8O9+I)

151 This is devastating for AOC's rumored Presidential campaign.
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Now do Hillary Clinton.

What I mean by that is that we've already witnessed that there is practically *zero* "baggage" attached to any liberals actions. Its the same old "they could abort a baby and kill a puppy on live tv and their supporters would still vote for them" adage.

"Yes" the footage will be valuable, but only because it will remind the *normal* people to go out and actually vote. it won't affect the behavior of the leftists.

Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2026 05:02 PM (TN0g+)

152 "religion of peace taken over by extremists"; right from CAIR's mouth probably

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2026 05:03 PM (AKptf)

153 Correct. The notion was that if the US fleet was attacked, it would savage the Japanese, giving us a victory as well as a justified declaration of war.

The fact that the declaration of war was bungled ultimately cost Japan everything, because against honorable opponents, we could show restraint, but against backstabbers, there could be no mercy.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 05:00 PM (ZOv7s)

That had no real effect. The normal Japanese atrocities in combat would have soured any good feeling from declaring war 10 minutes before attacking Pearl or the Philippines.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 05:04 PM (uhVAy)

154 Bush's "Islam is a religion of peace" -- what a mistake. "Come here and take us over without firing a shot. "
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Peter Jennings and other talking heads were doing their "let's not jump to conclusions" thingy within hours of the towers being hit. Clinton's supporters normalizing sexual harrassment and adultry and 9/11 are the two reasons I switched parties.

Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2026 05:05 PM (TN0g+)

155 Only because Hitler made his worst mistake of all (including invading Russia) and declared war on us. And then got no help from Japan with Russia.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 11, 2026 04:59 PM (XvL8K)
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Arguing that invading the USSR was a mistake is based entirely on after-the-fact information. In June 1941, the Soviet Union looked like a paper tiger. It had taken inordinate losses just to move the border a few miles west against Finland. It has purged its army leadership. According to its own propaganda, it was shot through with traitors.

In 1918, the Bolsheviks got completely rolled and made a separate peace, even to the point of offering tribute. Stalin did so again.

Knowing what he did, Hitler was not insane to attack the Soviets, and came close enough to scoring a knockout blow that people still argue about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 11, 2026 05:05 PM (ZOv7s)

156 118 And tonight the judgement of the New Year begins. May the Holy One forgive both my rage and my timing....
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at September 11, 2026 04:48 PM (5ayY3)
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Have a sweet New Year. Do some Tashlich since it sounds like you're near the ocean.
Posted by: beckster at September 11, 2026 04:54 PM
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Thank you, beckster, for the good wishes, and the very same to you and yours. My pack will be dumping a cr*p-load of sins into the canal next to our condo, and I hope the ducks and otters find them tasty.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at September 11, 2026 05:05 PM (5ayY3)

157 >>Our form of Republican government is only fitting for an overwhelmingly moral people, as stated before by far better men than me.

Indeed. If there was one flaw in the Founder's Plan it was that the Republic was to serve a Dutiful and Honorable Population.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2026 05:05 PM (zRd05)

158 Listening to students in grad school, I surmise they have been taught that the "root cause" of 9/11 and all these wars, like WWII, are because of our racism and bad behavior.

It's frightening.

Posted by: Random PJ

My neighbor related that his daughter was in an argument with an indian fellow student, who was insisting that the US was the most racist country in the world. Not only are we one of the least racist, this argument is coming from someone from a country that has thousands of castes, of which none are allowed to intermingle. It is maddening the disconnect.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2026 05:06 PM (0U5gm)

159 143 Ha! What was in those envelopes at the funeral? Jeb looked like he'd been punched in the gut.

Had to be a photograph, I'm thinking, based upon the speed of his reaction.

Posted by: Common Tater
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I forgot about that.
Very significant.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 11, 2026 05:06 PM (vC80E)

160 What I mean by that is that we've already witnessed that there is practically *zero* "baggage" attached to any liberals actions. Its the same old "they could abort a baby and kill a puppy on live tv and their supporters would still vote for them" adage.

"Yes" the footage will be valuable, but only because it will remind the *normal* people to go out and actually vote. it won't affect the behavior of the leftists.
Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2026 05:02 PM (TN0g+)

yet despite all that, they have gone from being a majority party to a minority, to being locked out of 40 or so states, to only being able to win using massive corruption and fraud, to now not even being able to raise money for a campaign.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 11, 2026 05:07 PM (uhVAy)

161 "TERRIFYING: The Shia Muslim mosque of Dearborn, Michigan, pledged its allegiance to the Islamic Regime in Iran, calling the U.S. a nation of ‘Devil-worshipers.’ "

Reminds me of John 8 -- "They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2026 05:07 PM (vbXSk)

162 One thing that gives hope, people can learn. Some people learn faster than others, it is true. I was a little bit slow on the uptake. But as I grew older, and gained life experience, many of the things that I thought were true, or were told were true, was obviously bullshit. Over time this increased to more things.

"What else have they been lying about" is the default position at some point. And someone can start thinking for themselves, gauging the veracity of information. Seeking out primary documents instead of listening to some paid clown with an agenda.

On the other hand it is a huge mistake to sleep soundly in the knowledge that a majority of people will mature as they age, or have an epiphany, or anything of the sort. I think people tend to become more conservative as they age, but this isn't necessarily the way to bet considering the huge mind-fvckery operation that has been deployed in recent years. But I suspect the insanity has been so outrageous that it might have sown the seeds of its own destruction. Too fucking weird, and always fucking weird, on any given issue. It drives people away. This causes the left to become even more un-hinged. Are you hinged?

Posted by: Common Tater at September 11, 2026 05:07 PM (2dVdu)

163 God bless the family at the 9/11 ceremony this who spoke out about Saudi Arabia.

One would hope the assembled former presidents felt shame, but it’s not bloody likely.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2026 05:09 PM (4KUe5)

164 Ha! What was in those envelopes at the funeral? Jeb looked like he'd been punched in the gut.

I hope they tell us someday.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2026 05:09 PM (c1gcm)

165 The Houthis are getting the upper hand in Yemen. Soon we will be intervening in this asshole of the world.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 11, 2026 05:09 PM (bX16E)

166 Not to mention, I am tired of seeing hijabs. One local coffee shop I used to love going to now has at least two hijab-wearers, usually on the same shift. I hate going there now and refer to it as "Mecca West."

Funny how I saw zero hijabs in Kansas. When I mentioned to Salty how there seemed to be few Moslems of any stripe around, he nodded. "They keep a low profile. Too many possible gun owners."

I don't recall any in SW Indiana a year ago, either.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 11, 2026 05:09 PM (wzUl9)

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