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Germany's Incompetent Chancellor Merz "Shocked" by AfD Winning Nearly an Outright Majority in Regional Elections in Saxony

I'm shocked that he's shocked.

Note that while Alternativ fur Deutschland won a near majority, the usual European "firewall" f*ckery will now ensue in which the Greens, communists, "center" left socialists, and moderate "right" parties will form an ungodly Frankenstein coalition to block AfD from governing Saxony-Anhalt.

AfD is only three seats away from an outright majority in Saxony-Anhalt, but right now, that three seats is enough to keep them out of power.

Or is it? A far-left party that supports both Russia and sealing the borders says it might join the AfD, and that small party's five seats would be enough for a majority.

Meanwhile, the moderate "right" party continues to unmask and shows that they'll align with the Greens, socialists, and communists rather than do the one thing the public is screaming for them to do, seal the f***ing borders already.

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz doubled down Monday on pushing through unpopular reforms to Europe's largest economy after a far-right party surged to a landslide victory in a regional election, with a very good chance of forming the first far-right state government since the Nazi era.

Merz said his center-right Christian Democratic Union was "deeply shocked" by what he called "the most serious election defeat that the CDU has had for years, for decades." But he indicated that he's determined to stay at the helm and said that "giving up is not an option for me."

The anti-migration and Russia-friendly Alternative for Germany, or AfD, fell just short of a majority in Sunday's vote in Saxony-Anhalt, a small eastern state that gained outsized prominence as AfD eyed power there. Its regional branch is one of several considered a proven right-wing extremist group by Germany's domestic intelligence agency.

LOL. It's led by a lesbian who's married to a Sri Lankan.


AfD's victory is a major distraction for Germany and Merz at a time when Europe faces several challenges, including Russia's continued aggression against Ukraine, a suspected sabotage campaign targeting NATO countries, and difficult dealings with U.S. President Donald Trump.

It's a "distraction" from the Uniparty doing what the Uniparty wants to do against the wishes of the public.

Gee, sorry to "distract" you, Uniparty.


Merz said he wanted to assure Germany's allies that "our institutions are resilient and stable" and the country will stick to its values and constitution after the AfD win. "We know that Germany carries special responsibility because of its history," he said.

By refusing to even budge on unlimited mass migration, you are the ones guaranteeing that a truly "far right" party will eventually sweep into power.


Because of Germany's Nazi past, far-right movements have always come under strong scrutiny. Other major parties have refused to cooperate with AfD in a so-called "firewall." Unlike many countries in Europe, modern Germany hasn't yet had a far-right or right-wing populist party leading a national, state or major-city government.

Determination to continue reforms 'unbroken'

Merz vowed to weaken AfD before he came to power last year, but instead has seen the party's support increase.

The governing coalition of his Union bloc and the center-left Social Democrats has developed a reputation for squabbling and become deeply unpopular, as has Merz himself. The government has struggled to persuade voters that it can get the country's chronically sluggish economy moving, through potentially painful reforms, including to the pension system.

So far, this article has acknowledge the economy, unpopular "reforms," and Ukraine, but has completely suppressed the issue actually driving the election, unlimited mass migration.

...

Germany faces another two regional elections on Sept. 20 -- in Berlin and in another eastern state, Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where AfD is also strong.

...

AfD is three seats short of a majority. It could reach out to the hard-left BSW party, which won five seats. The two parties share a Russia-friendly course and oppose immigration but disagree on some other issues.

BSW has criticized the "firewall" against AfD and signaled again Monday that it could allow Siegmund to become governor by abstaining in a potential third round of voting for a new governor in the state legislature, in which a simple majority would suffice.

Record support for the "extreme far right" AfD. Did you know that 44% of Germany's voters are extreme far right? Must be true, all the media says so.

Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) won a record 44% in Saxony-Anhalt on Sunday, leaving a small party with seats that could determine whether it can lead the nation's first far-right state government since World War II.

Why it matters: Germany rebuilt its democracy after Nazi rule with unusually strong safeguards against extremism. AfD's breakthrough shows those barriers aren't stopping Europe's far right from becoming dominant electoral forces.

The latest: AfD more than doubled its 20.8% share in 2021, hitting its highest vote share ever in a state election and finishing ahead of the center-right CDU at 17%.

BSW, the party that hasn't ruled out working with the AfD, barely cleared the 5% threshold parties need for parliamentary representation.
Together, AfD and BSW would hold 43 seats, one more than a majority.
BSW, a populist party, combines far-left economics with far-right migration policies and calls for closer ties to Russia.


Send them home, is AfD's motto.

In an interview on German broadcaster ZDF, the AfD's national co-chair, Alice Weidel, advocated for closing Germany's borders and exiting Europe's Schengen treaty, saying, "Illegal migration, unchecked open borders, anyone can get in. Our internal security is suffering. People are honestly fed up with this situation."

Weidel added, "All Syrian refugees must have their protected status revoked because the reason for their flight no longer exists. These people must return to their homeland. If they don't leave voluntarily, then they must be deported by force."

Adding that many of the 1.3 million Syrians in Germany are being naturalized, "we must stop naturalizing these people who should actually be leaving our country. We have Islamization."

#Based.

In May 2025, Germany's Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) classified the AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist" group, citing "anti-migrant positions and an ancestry-based definition of German identity." This past February, according to Deutsche Welle, that classification was put on hold by a German court after "Judges found that while there was evidence of potentially unconstitutional statements and policies within the AfD... it said that there was not sufficient evidence to characterize the party as a whole as extremist."

In other words, they're "far right" because they reject the idea that Germany should be made up primarily of Afghans, Syrians, Egyptians, and Nigerians. That's an "ethnically-based" idea of German identity, you see.


AfD attracted 42% of young voters and 40% of female voters of all ages, who are usually soft-headed and, how do I put this, dumb.

I cannot find a cite for this so take it with a grain of salt until confirmed.

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness

Sep 6
It gets crazier...

Young voters (18-24): 42% AFD
Female voters (all ages): 40% AFD

Both traditionally far-left voting blocs

CNN had a "meltdown" over the results, obvvie.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:12 PM




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I don't refuse, I keep it light
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

2 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 08, 2026 12:13 PM (9Q+nP)

3 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 08, 2026 12:13 PM (9Q+nP)

4 Goose stepping is back in style in Germany
CNN

Posted by: steevy at September 08, 2026 12:14 PM (YwEeS)

5 4 Goose stepping is back in style in Germany
CNN

Posted by: steevy at September 08, 2026 12:14 PM (YwEeS)

========

The left could trans so many more kids if they closed the borders.

But open borders is just more important to them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:15 PM (qE8uT)

6 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 08, 2026 12:15 PM (hG5L0)

7 how was your weekend Ace?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 12:15 PM (j+aD2)

8 I'm shocked they haven't set aside the victory.
Fuckers did that in Hungary

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 08, 2026 12:16 PM (xcxpd)

9 Or is it? A far-left party that supports both Russia and sealing the borders says it might join the AfD, and that small party's five seats would be enough for a majority.

===

Horseshoe , but in a good way.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 12:16 PM (AKptf)

10 But open borders is just more important to them."

Of course! Who else will work to cover retirements?

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (cGjQu)

11 AFD is honestly just another Euro leftwing party...just one with a rational immigration policy.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (sKqQm)

12 Merz said his center-right Christian Democratic Union was "deeply shocked" by what he called "the most serious election defeat that the CDU has had for years, for decades." But he indicated that he's determined to stay at the helm and said that "giving up is not an option for me."

You know who else was determined to stay at the helm and thought giving up was not an option for him?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

13 >>>7 how was your weekend Ace?

Thanks for asking. It was fine. And yours?

Posted by: ace at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (1wjle)

14 that should have been a "?"

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (AKptf)

15 A lot of people on X pointed out that in this, the first election since USAID shut down, AfD did dramatically better than in the past.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (2ocoG)

16 It still cracks me up that the Chancellor of Germany is named Fred Merz.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (77rzZ)

17 "I've said it before and I'll say it again. Democracy doesn't work."

Kent Brockman

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (Sco7b)

18 "Far right." I do not think that means what they think it means.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (9Q+nP)

19
10 But open borders is just more important to them."

Of course! Who else will work to cover retirements?

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (cGjQu)

========

"Not the Syrian immigrants we immediately put on all the welfare."
-the Christian Democrats of Germany

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (qE8uT)

20 Meanwhile, the moderate "right" party continues to unmask and shows that they'll align with the Greens, socialists, and communists rather than do the one thing the public is screaming for them to do, seal the f***ing borders already.

Sounds familiar.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (mqudn)

21 Thanks for asking. It was fine. And yours?
Posted by: ace

How was your cookout with the crows?

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 12:18 PM (77rzZ)

22 61% of people with a job voted for AFD.

I haven't seen a breakdown on retirees vs the welfare/immigrant class in Germany because it would be interesting to see if their votes differ and I expect they do.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:18 PM (sKqQm)

23 12 Merz said his center-right Christian Democratic Union was "deeply shocked" by what he called "the most serious election defeat that the CDU has had for years, for decades." But he indicated that he's determined to stay at the helm and said that "giving up is not an option for me."

You know who else was determined to stay at the helm and thought giving up was not an option for him?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

Literally Stalin?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 08, 2026 12:18 PM (xcxpd)

24 This clown, literally minutes after the polls closed in the national election, formed an alliance with the socialists in order to keep the AfD out of power. He lied about everything his party stood for, and he is surprised at the voting this time?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (1S6X6)

25 "I cannot find a cite for this so take it with a grain of salt until confirmed"

I'm taking it with a dump truck of salt. I'm not even sure how anyone tracks or can accurately poll voting by age. Exit polls, sure, but they are notoriously unreliable.

I'd like it to be true, though, that Germany's young people are turning red.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

26 Not the Syrian immigrants we immediately put on all the welfare."
-the Christian Democrats of Germany"

Ah yes. They add to the GDP. Or something

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (cGjQu)

27 1939: Germany must expand into every other country in Eurasia and wipe out their native populations.

2026: Germany must accept every lowlife from every s***hole country in the world, and then every native citizen must kill himself while shivering in the dark.

Totes the same.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (Riz8t)

28 it was good just overly busy!

I feel like a truck hit me and I still have an "event" tonight to participate in

lol holidays! they're fun

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

29 It still cracks me up that the Chancellor of Germany is named Fred Merz.

He's old enough that he was an ally of Reagan during the Cold War and at one point he made a half hearted challenge against Merkel

I wonder what modern European elites bought him with?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (sKqQm)

30 I wonder if she'll be truly able to follow thru or was her talking points just bs?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (/xJ/M)

31 I’m kinda surprised at AfD’s affinity for the Russians. You could arguably make the case that Russia colluded with CDU to commence the entire invasion under Merkel. Mass migration was meant to do exactly as it is doing, weaken the ethnic German state. That benefits a lot of globalists, but a weak Germany also benefits the Russians. The Russians have been caught more than a few times running shadow campaigns and proxy ops that push and assist mass migration. They’re actually still doing it in the Baltics and in Poland.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (78Y69)

32 Just a reminder, Saxony-Anhalt used to be part of GDR - German Democratic Republic. They know stuff about stuff!

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (AKptf)

33 It really doesn't matter how well afD did, they didn't get a majority and the other parties are simply going to freeze them out.

The only upside is that the ruling coalition is going to keep governing like the suicidal buffoons they are and maybe next go round afD will be able to get an outright majority.

That presupposes that afD doesn't get outlawed as a way to fix the glitch of the people voting in afD.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (Lm2uZ)

34 Meanwhile, the moderate "right" party continues to unmask and shows that they'll align with the Greens, socialists, and communists rather than do the one thing the public is screaming for them to do, seal the f***ing borders already.

Sounds familiar.


Well, Thune IS an Aryan name. (Norwegian)

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (Riz8t)

35 Not the Syrian immigrants we immediately put on all the welfare."
-the Christian Democrats of Germany"

Ah yes. They add to the GDP. Or something
Posted by: man

3 a.m. kebabs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (mqudn)

36 Is it Springtime for Hilter and Germany yet?

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (Fn+3X)

37 Thanks for asking. It was fine. And yours?
Posted by: ace

How was your cookout with the crows?
Posted by: Bulg


10 & 20 black birds baked in a pie.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (/xJ/M)

38 These deck chairs need more work. I think if we put them in groups of two with some space between, it would have better feng shui.

Posted by: Deck Chair Coordinator for RMS Titanic at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (Y/06r)

39 >>> Because of Germany's Nazi past, far-right movements have always come under strong scrutiny. Other major parties have refused to cooperate with AfD in a so-called "firewall."

I appreciate the Germans never want to return another Hitler-like leader to power. But that does not mean they have to commit national suicide, or seppuku via toxic empathy, just to be washed of their sins. Destroying your culture as some form of penance is idiotic.

Germany is a beautiful country, and should stay German. As should England stay English, France stay French, etc.

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (Eng1Z)

40 I see a speech from Alice Weidel where she was angry and speaking in Germany and since this was on a left leaning site they all argued...SEE NAZIs!

Of course if you listened to her speech she was angry about Germany importing millions of third worlders and putting them on welfare.

Which means the left thinks the problem with Hitler is he took welfare away from Jewish immigrants to Germany?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (sKqQm)

41 >>>How was your cookout with the crows?

I did see them one morning. The male and female pair. They ate some bread I put out for them. That was nice.

Posted by: ace at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (1wjle)

42 Elected officials in every western country need to realize that secure borders and remigration are the moderate positions. They really won’t like what comes next.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (u73oe)

43 She's not incompetent, she is deliberately malicious. Merckel not only admitted that she flooded the country with hostile invaders to "stop the far right" but probably was behind that day when like five right wing politicians all died. And then the news vanished.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (K32Fz)

44 The way European countries' multiple political parties are, and the way their elections are held and implemented are cray.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (qBdHI)

45 they can fool around with the "parliamentary system" etc but I think the people there and in other countries are very much aware that the ballot box option is way, way over.

so.

should be interesting.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (j+aD2)

46

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxony began to hate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (Cqx++)

47 I’m kinda surprised at AfD’s affinity for the Russians. You could arguably make the case that Russia colluded with CDU to commence the entire invasion under Merkel. Mass migration was meant to do exactly as it is doing, weaken the ethnic German state. That benefits a lot of globalists, but a weak Germany also benefits the Russians. The Russians have been caught more than a few times running shadow campaigns and proxy ops that push and assist mass migration. They’re actually still doing it in the Baltics and in Poland.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (78Y69)
________

It's not so much affinity for Russia as a country or culture, but an affinity for cheap Russian oil and opposition to endlessly funding Ukraine in the war.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (iFTx/)

48 Weidel/AFD share some similarities to the NAZIs in that they have the same leftwing technocratic economic policies the rest of the Euro parties have.

Of course Weidel being gay married to a Sri Lankan puts the lie to the claim they have any other ties.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

49 Native Germans just don't drive through Festivals and Christmas Markets in the way we've become accustomed to.

Posted by: Under My Wheels at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (Fn+3X)

50 I did see them one morning. The male and female pair. They ate some bread I put out for them. That was nice.

Sounds like a good morning I hope you are rested up and feeling better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (K32Fz)

51 I appreciate the Germans never want to return another Hitler-like leader to power. But that does not mean they have to commit national suicide, or seppuku via toxic empathy, just to be washed of their sins. Destroying your culture as some form of penance is idiotic.

And, as usual, those calling for seppuku are NOT those who will actually do it. They're protected by their wealth.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (Riz8t)

52
It's not so much affinity for Russia as a country or culture, but an affinity for cheap Russian oil and opposition to endlessly funding Ukraine in the war.


Russia is no threat to German normies.

The EU/current German government is

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (sKqQm)

53 The only upside is that the ruling coalition is going to keep governing like the suicidal buffoons they are and maybe next go round afD will be able to get an outright majority.

That presupposes that afD doesn't get outlawed as a way to fix the glitch of the people voting in afD.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 08, 2026 12:20 PM (Lm2uZ

And they'll get a chance to work on voter fraud,

GatewayPundit had an article saying mail-in ballots played a role.

It'd be hilarious if the Republicans did that for a few election cycles. Millions of conservative votes. Then we'd hear about election security.

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 12:24 PM (Sco7b)

54 I did see them one morning. The male and female pair. They ate some bread I put out for them. That was nice.
Posted by: ace

How do you tell the difference between male and female crows? Size differential?

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 12:24 PM (77rzZ)

55 That presupposes that afD doesn't get outlawed as a way to fix the glitch of the people voting in afD.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


Germany could ban the AfD or just ban voting altogether. Either way, they would be doing it to save democracy.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 12:24 PM (1S6X6)

56 Weidel/AFD share some similarities to the NAZIs in that they have the same leftwing technocratic economic policies the rest of the Euro parties have.

Of course Weidel being gay married to a Sri Lankan puts the lie to the claim they have any other ties.


One thing at a time. If they manage to shut the border, a lot of other things become possible.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

57 with a very good chance of forming the first far-right state government since the Nazi era.

Um, the Notsees were NOT far right; they were Socialists! Socialists are leftists...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (l3cgK)

58 He's old enough that he was an ally of Reagan"

Wasn't he in the war?

/oh, wrong Mertz... hey, still German

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (cGjQu)

59 Remember the photo of Merkel standing over a table and glaring at a seated Trump and Trump is feigning boredom looking past her, which only served to anger Frau Merkel to peak Infuriated German Chancellor mode? Payback!

Posted by: 13times at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (6iKlf)

60 That presupposes that afD doesn't get outlawed as a way to fix the glitch of the people voting in afD.


One of the points for Democracy is that it gives a peaceful way to change policies and leadership.

In the old days if you didn't like the King;s policies you had to kill him and his henchmen.

Democracy allows this to be done peacefully.

If you take that away you remove any option for a peaceful change in direction

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (sKqQm)

61 I wonder if a concentrated effort to stifle the AfD will increase or decrease it's appeal over the next 2.5 years leading up to the next federal elections...

Nah, what am I saying?

There can't be negative, unforeseen consequences to ensuring that the party with 44% support gets no say in the regional affairs when it's easily the largest single party.

Negative, unforeseen consequences don't actually happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (qE8uT)

62 I don't quite understand how some European governments are supposed to work. Seems like there's a dozen or more factions and how they get elected is just weird.

But.... I'll note that our own government is beginning to fracture too. The GOP is becoming a hodgepodge of conservatives and rank and file grifters while the Democrats are fracturing into Commies, Islamists, Socialists and traditional grifters.

Neither bode well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (2Cry5)

63 44 The way European countries' multiple political parties are, and the way their elections are held and implemented are cray.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (qBdHI)

But it also shows how undemocratic the modern era is.

1) Far right (or whatever) party wins more elections.

2) The other parties are supposed to look at this and perhaps adopt some small things from the core issues and moderate them in their own way.

3) what we are seeing is a complete rejection of the will of the voters because the ONLY thing the parties can agree on is the ONE thing the voters do not want- immigration.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (Y/06r)

64 I do have to laugh the FNM regularly claims that both NAZIs and anarcho-capitalists are "far right wing"

You can only pick one. And the anarcho-capitalists as far right actually makes the most sense.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

65 You would think the Trump example would wake them up.

But the ruling class in EU decided that it is easier to demonize Trump than to admit they were wrong about fucking their countries with migrants.

Remigration is "Trumpian" so it must be stupid; Trump is stupid so his policies must be crazy.

Now some also feel like the USA tricked them into accepting migrants (by example with our loose border to Mexicans and by the M. E. wars.)

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (yIb5h)

66 55 That presupposes that afD doesn't get outlawed as a way to fix the glitch of the people voting in afD.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


Germany could ban the AfD or just ban voting altogether. Either way, they would be doing it to save democracy.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 12:24 PM (1S6X6)

And we ALL know the best way to save democracy is with Communism, right?...Right? I mean, it *might* not save democracy, but it certainly will fix it, just like a taxidermist fixes things...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (l3cgK)

67 How do you tell the difference between male and female crows? Size differential?

The female has lipstick and long eyelashes

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (K32Fz)

68 57 Um, the Notsees were NOT far right; they were Socialists! Socialists are leftists...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:25 PM (l3cgK)

=======

"Hitler cozied up to Russia!"

"Should we talk about CDU officials taking money from Russian gas companies?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (qE8uT)

69 Negative, unforeseen consequences don't actually happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (qE8uT)

These are actually very foreseen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (Y/06r)

70 The government has struggled to persuade voters that it can get the country's chronically sluggish economy moving, through potentially painful reforms, including to the pension system.
-----

You can't get a "chronically sluggish economy moving", regardless of "painful reforms...to the pension system" without ALSO closing the damn border and ENDING the handouts to those foreign and domestic who aren't pulling their weight. They KNOW you can't give money to strangers and re-vive an economy at the same time--they just don't want YOU to know that they know it.

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (TN0g+)

71 You would think the Trump example would wake them up.

He did. That's why they are deeply invested into election fraud, arresting opposition leaders, and banning any ideas that run counter to their narrative

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:28 PM (sKqQm)

72 69 Negative, unforeseen consequences don't actually happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:26 PM (qE8uT)

These are actually very foreseen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (Y/06r)

Yeah, it ain't no black swan event.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:28 PM (l3cgK)

73 I feel the need to point out again that European media and politicians never seem to refer to any right wing, no ordinary right. Its always "FAR" right or "EXTREME" right. And there is no far left, its always just the left or moderate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:28 PM (K32Fz)

74 The current German government and associated NGOs are trying to formally ban the AfD. This started when the Verfassungsschutz, the domestic intelligence service, tried to classify the AfD as "confirmed right-wing extremist", although it was blocked for the moment after the AfD sued.

Oh, it's CONFIRMED! They're right-wing extremists (left undefined)! By you. The people who have, and want to keep power. Well then, carry on.

https://tinyurl.com/4w552jmx

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

75 All of these center-right parties would have had to do is be credible on a pretty common sense issue they dont want to be invaded by the 3rd world and have their demographics change overnight.

But they're not willing to do that , lest they be called racists or Na#is.

See Tory party and GOPe for other notable examples.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 08, 2026 12:29 PM (uksHY)

76 71 You would think the Trump example would wake them up.

He did. That's why they are deeply invested into election fraud, arresting opposition leaders, and banning any ideas that run counter to their narrative

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:28 PM (sKqQm)

Democracy, voting, free speech, free press...these are all tools in the hands of the left that, when they become inconvenient, are taken away. For the Children!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)

77 "Hitler cozied up to Russia!"

I mean he did, from 39-41. He only felt comfortable invading Poland with the USSR as his ally.

Of course then he started preparing for war with the USSR while Stalin tried to negotiate a larger alliance with him.

You can easily imagine an alternate history where the USSR invades Iran/India as a German ally...before Hitler stabs him in the back later.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

78 Afternoon Ace.
Merkel was a leftist one worlder from the beginning. She went to get togethers of Socialist International youths. Putin attended also. She sold out her country the minute she took office

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (v6vok)

79 You would think the Trump example would wake them up.

But the ruling class in EU decided that it is easier to demonize Trump than to admit they were wrong about fucking their countries with migrants.

Remigration is "Trumpian" so it must be stupid; Trump is stupid so his policies must be crazy.

Now some also feel like the USA tricked them into accepting migrants (by example with our loose border to Mexicans and by the M. E. wars.)
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:27 PM (yIb5h)
_______

I think they knew exactly what they were doing with open borders and mass migration of slovenly deadbeat basketcase savages. Same as Biden and the Democraps do here.

They have the same Replacement Theory fever dreams in EU as the Democraps do here. Plus, a lot of people make a lot of money off mass migration and cheap labor, and those people donate to political campaigns.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

80 Merkel's daddy was a bigwig in the East German govt. The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (mqudn)

81 And, as usual, those calling for seppuku are NOT those who will actually do it. They're protected by their wealth.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
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...for now.

When their economy implodes due to their malicious incompetence, they may find that their wealth isn't as much of a shield as they thought.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (FZ29D)

82 75 All of these center-right parties would have had to do is be credible on a pretty common sense issue they dont want to be invaded by the 3rd world and have their demographics change overnight.

But they're not willing to do that , lest they be called racists or Na#is.

See Tory party and GOPe for other notable examples.
Posted by: Sharpie at September 08, 2026 12:29 PM (uksHY)

Which means money. Or... some other method of control. That is being used by someone who wants all of this to continue (i.e. the complete collapse of the west.) My money would be China or GloboCommie or perhaps Technocrat faction.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:31 PM (Y/06r)

83 Siegmund took the seat from Thomas Staudt of the CDU (Christlich Demokratische Union). The CDU is the main center-right party — where "center-right" is a little to the left of the American Democratic Party.

Gee, so right-wing...LOL. Being left of the Dems is being left of the Socialists of America, basically commies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)

84 How do you tell the difference between male and female crows? Size differential?


I don't know. I'm not a biologist.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

85 After the fall of the USSR leftwing policies were adrift for a few years. But then they came up with two ideas:

1) Chinese style "communism" is good enough
2) Who needs to beat right leaning parties if you co-opt them.

And looking back home remember the Dems managed to get Dennis Hastert installed as the most powerful R in DC in 1999.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:31 PM (sKqQm)

86 >>>Send them home, is AfD's motto.

It's another Trumpmas miracle. Yeah, I credit Trump for making it OK to stand up to screeching woke Karen's and for making it socially acceptable to care about destruction of one's country, society, and culture.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (P5+54)

87 79 I think they knew exactly what they were doing with open borders and mass migration of slovenly deadbeat basketcase savages. Same as Biden and the Democraps do here.

They have the same Replacement Theory fever dreams in EU as the Democraps do here. Plus, a lot of people make a lot of money off mass migration and cheap labor, and those people donate to political campaigns.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

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They hold to it with religious fervor. It's weird.

I occasionally reference the Italian Democrat Party. A real force in the country in the 2000s, they're essentially a rump party now (2nd overall in Parliament, but the 1st and 3rd largest coalition together, so the Democrats are a complete non-factor), and it aligns perfectly with their embrace of open borders.

They literally won't stop embracing it even as they get less and less powerful in the government every passing election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (qE8uT)

88 "Hitler cozied up to Russia!"

I mean he did, from 39-41. He only felt comfortable invading Poland with the USSR as his ally.

Of course then he started preparing for war with the USSR while Stalin tried to negotiate a larger alliance with him.

You can easily imagine an alternate history where the USSR invades Iran/India as a German ally...before Hitler stabs him in the back later.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)
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I think Russia's poor showing in the Winter War convinced Hitler -- and a lot of others -- that the Red Army was a paper tiger

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

89 The funny part of this is the German government sold massive immigration as a way to pay for retirement benefits for Germans.

Now they argue it doesn't matter if the immigrants are mostly on welfare instead of working

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (sKqQm)

90 88
I think Russia's poor showing in the Winter War convinced Hitler -- and a lot of others -- that the Red Army was a paper tiger

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

========

"I can kill so many of my own men."
-Stalin

"That's...not the point of war."
-airbrushed advisor, forgotten to history

"It's the point of my war, comrade."
-Stalin

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:33 PM (qE8uT)

91 And, as usual, those calling for seppuku are NOT those who will actually do it. They're protected by their wealth.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:23 PM (Riz8t)
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...for now.

When their economy implodes due to their malicious incompetence, they may find that their wealth isn't as much of a shield as they thought.


That's where the ditches, walls, and machine guns come in.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

92 Dear normal Germans,

Fortunately for you, there is a blueprint for you to follow. Just go to your favorite search engine and type “when in the course of human events.”

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 08, 2026 12:33 PM (u73oe)

93 This is the big flaw in parliamentary systems -- they tend to move power toward a vague middle ground controlled by the elites. It is a consensus form of gov. the removes personality and individuals, preferring committees.

In the US system, there are two parties who have to stand for things. And they ultimately produce candidates who have to stand for things. That distinction follows through from the campaign to the decisions they make. In a parliamentary system small parties break out with very clear goal, but then they join in as a coalition where those very strong goal are completely ignored. It is like a safety valve to allow them to campaign on real issues and then stick the platform in a drawer to be ignored until next campaign.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (yIb5h)

94
I think Russia's poor showing in the Winter War convinced Hitler -- and a lot of others -- that the Red Army was a paper tiger

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

I'm sure Napolean felt the same way about the Tsar's forces too...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (l3cgK)

95 Napoleon...damn fingers

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (l3cgK)

96 You know... hypothetically. If this were a grand strategy game in the style of Crusader Kings II. Given the conditions. I'd start hiring assassins and get rid of every WEF guy above bottle washer and see what happened.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (Y/06r)

97 "It's the point of my war, comrade."
-Stalin


A lot of the Russian dead in that war were in Penal units or former White soldiers so he wasn't that upset with the death toll (though it was significantly more then the Soviets expected)

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

98 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (y/3jL)

99 Merz literally abandoned every principle his party stood for on his first morning as leader, purely to stop AfD. He is getting exactly what he deserves.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 12:35 PM (1S6X6)

100 You know... hypothetically. If this were a grand strategy game in the style of Crusader Kings II. Given the conditions. I'd start hiring assassins and get rid of every WEF guy above bottle washer and see what happened.

I found it very easy to do an early unification of Spain with the help of a talented assassin...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:35 PM (sKqQm)

101 97 "It's the point of my war, comrade."
-Stalin

A lot of the Russian dead in that war were in Penal units or former White soldiers so he wasn't that upset with the death toll (though it was significantly more then the Soviets expected)

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

Mao did the same thing with his old comrades, shunting them to the front lines in Korea...dead men tell no tales...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:35 PM (l3cgK)

102 It's led by a lesbian who's married to a Sri Lankan.
____

Suggested edit: put "married" in quotes

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 08, 2026 12:35 PM (xQz2n)

103 Ah yes. They add to the GDP. Or something
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (cGjQu)


Government spending, including welfare, is included in GDP. This is why GDP is retarded, fake and ghey

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (rbvCR)

104 I think Russia's poor showing in the Winter War convinced Hitler -- and a lot of others -- that the Red Army was a paper tiger
Posted by: Elric The Blade


Well, it sure didn't help that Stalin had so thoroughly destroyed the officer corps.

But the Japanese still feared it enough after their trouncing by it in Inner Mongolia to sign a nonaggression pact with the USSR.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (77rzZ)

105 Merz is shocked, SHOCKED!
Clearly they failed to ballot stuff

Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (EGSGm)

106 A lot of the Russian dead in that war were in Penal units or former White soldiers so he wasn't that upset with the death toll

I mean, I get the impression that Stalin wasn't very upset about any deaths of anyone

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (K32Fz)

107 103 Ah yes. They add to the GDP. Or something
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:19 PM (cGjQu)

Government spending, including welfare, is included in GDP. This is why GDP is retarded, fake and ghey

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (rbvCR)

======

Government spending should be considered negative to GDP.

I have said it. Let it be done. Let it be so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (qE8uT)

108 "Should we talk about CDU officials taking money from Russian gas companies?"

Or CDU shutting down all the nuclear plants to guarantee reliance on Russian oil and gas.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (2ocoG)

109 Government spending, including welfare, is included in GDP. This is why GDP is retarded, fake and ghey
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (rbvCR)

Lame. Retarded, Fake, Gay and lame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (Y/06r)

110
I feel the need to point out again that European media and politicians never seem to refer to any right wing, no ordinary right. Its always "FAR" right or "EXTREME" right. And there is no far left, its always just the left or moderate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Just like here in the USA

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2026 12:37 PM (Cqx++)

111 105 Merz is shocked, SHOCKED!
Clearly they failed to ballot stuff

Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 08, 2026 12:36 PM (EGSGm)

There will be lots of stuffing before Thanksgiving in Kalifornia...to support turkeys for election.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 08, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)

112
But the Japanese still feared it enough after their trouncing by it in Inner Mongolia to sign a nonaggression pact with the USSR.


Japan had very outmoded ideas on ground combat. If it worked in the last war against Russia it will certainly work in this one right?

Probably why they didn't do better in China against 2nd tier opponents as well

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:37 PM (sKqQm)

113
Merz is shocked, SHOCKED!

Don't look, Ethel!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (Cqx++)

114
I think they knew exactly what they were doing with open borders and mass migration of slovenly deadbeat basketcase savages. Same as Biden and the Democraps do here.

Posted by: Elric The Blade

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Some, not all. I said yesterday that I think a big driver initially was Germany trying to understand why Germany was struggling in the 90s compared to US and Japan. They credited US energy and cheap labor.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (yIb5h)

115
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz

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Germany's being run by Fred Merz? It's not surprising that he's not up to the job.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (biznJ)

116 Government spending, including welfare, is included in GDP. This is why GDP is retarded, fake and ghey

I saw someone put the SP500 against gold and it is mostly flat.

But remember inflation under Biden was single digits while the SP500 was increasing by double digits...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (sKqQm)

117 Dear normal Germans,

Fortunately for you, there is a blueprint for you to follow. Just go to your favorite search engine and type “when in the course of human events.”
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Touch my monkey! Touch it!

Now we dance.

Posted by: Dieter from Sprockets at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (mqudn)

118 >>> I do have to laugh the FNM regularly claims that both NAZIs and anarcho-capitalists are "far right wing"

Projection. American lefties are good at it too.

Larry Elder: the black face of white supremacy
Stephen Miller: jewish Nazi

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:39 PM (Eng1Z)

119 Japan had very outmoded ideas on ground combat. If it worked in the last war against Russia it will certainly work in this one right?


The Japanese emphasis on Bushido spirit, and the WWI French idea of elan had a lot in common.

Here's the plan. We form a compact mass and run at machine guns waving swords and yelling. It can't lose!

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

120 How do you tell the difference between male and female crows?

==

Ah, very important question! Here is how, the one that is yelling at the other is a female!

Posted by: AOS AI-foo at September 08, 2026 12:39 PM (AKptf)

121 116 I saw someone put the SP500 against gold and it is mostly flat.

But remember inflation under Biden was single digits while the SP500 was increasing by double digits...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (sKqQm)

=========

Trump hasn't completely reversed this, therefore all price increases are his fault.

Never mind that July saw actual deflation (-0.3%) in grocery prices and rents are decreasing (unevenly, a whole lot more where 287g agreements are in place).

There was no inflation under Biden, and Trump is responsible for all inflation from 2021 to 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:39 PM (qE8uT)

122 If we make it through all this bullshit with at least one first world nation not subsumed by the commie hordes, then I am pretty sure that we will end up with a new concept; that importing an asston of a foreign demographic to drown an existing demographic of citizens is defacto ethnic cleansing.

It's surprising it already isn't, given how the Russians have enthusiastically done it for two centuries. It isn't a new tactic.

In any case it is vile and deserves to be answered with open violence.

Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (TkJMd)

123 Germany's being run by Fred Merz? It's not surprising that he's not up to the job.

He needs to stop pulling his pants up to his armpits.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

124 80 Merkel's daddy was a bigwig in the East German govt. The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (mqudn)

You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can't take East Germany out of the girl.

Posted by: Mark Steyn at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (0CU3H)

125 80 Merkel's daddy was a bigwig in the East German govt. The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (mqudn)

You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can't take East Germany out of the girl.

Posted by: Mark Steyn at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (0CU3H)

126 There was no inflation under Biden, and Trump is responsible for all inflation from 2021 to 2024

It is no common for lefties to post graphs of price increases between 2020-2025 that show all the increases in 21/22 and yet rant "see prices are up under Trump!" and I legitimately think they do not understand the graph they are posting.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

127 124 80 Merkel's daddy was a bigwig in the East German govt. The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (mqudn)

You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can't take East Germany out of the girl.
Posted by: Mark Steyn at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (0CU3H)

125 80 Merkel's daddy was a bigwig in the East German govt. The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:30 PM (mqudn)

You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can't take East Germany out of the girl.
Posted by: Mark Steyn at September 08, 2026 12:40 PM (0CU3H)

You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can't take East Germany out of the girl.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 08, 2026 12:41 PM (Y/06r)

128 I appreciate the Germans never want to return another Hitler-like leader to power. But that does not mean they have to commit national suicide, or seppuku via toxic empathy, just to be washed of their sins. Destroying your culture as some form of penance is idiotic.

Germany is a beautiful country, and should stay German. As should England stay English, France stay French, etc.

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:21 PM (Eng1Z)


The purpose of the EU is to destroy national sovereignty and independence of the European states, for the purpose of avoiding future wars.
It is one of the plans to create peace by destroying what was considered the drivers of war and conflict. Very similar to the progressives that have been pushing for a leadership of the elites to rule scientifically ever since Wilson.
The attraction is that it gives a broader base to abuse and steal from

Ursula Von Der Leyen is not talking about nationalizing all bank accounts in the EU to reinvest that money in the redeveloping the EU
(this means they have run out of money, have run out of creditors, have run out of collateral to hock and now need to steal it from their kids)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

129 That's where the ditches, walls, and machine guns come in.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

But enough about my home fortifications...

Posted by: pookysgirl hasn't even gotten to the Tesla coil yet at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (Wt5PA)

130 Larry Elder: the black face of white supremacy
Stephen Miller: jewish Nazi
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:39 PM


George Zimmerman, white Hispanic

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (2ocoG)

131 Germany seems hell-bent on genociding ethnic groups. This time the target is Germans within Germany. What is the opposite of Lebensraum?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (xQz2n)

132 A lot of people on X pointed out that in this, the first election since USAID shut down, AfD did dramatically better than in the past.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:17 PM (2ocoG)

It's helpful when AfD candidates are dying all over the place like they were last time.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (PGK1w)

133 126 There was no inflation under Biden, and Trump is responsible for all inflation from 2021 to 2024

It is no common for lefties to post graphs of price increases between 2020-2025 that show all the increases in 21/22 and yet rant "see prices are up under Trump!" and I legitimately think they do not understand the graph they are posting.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

========

To be fair, Democrats have largely erased Joe Biden's presidency from their minds. He was never president.

When they reminisce about the good old days, they don't talk about Biden. They talk about Obama.

So, thinking Trump has been president uninterrupted from 2016 to now does make some sense in that context.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:43 PM (qE8uT)

134 Ursula Von Der Leyen is not talking about nationalizing all bank accounts in the EU to reinvest that money in the redeveloping the EU
(this means they have run out of money, have run out of creditors, have run out of collateral to hock and now need to steal it from their kids)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

She's a creepy bitch. The Lindsey Clancy school of Charisma.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:43 PM (Y/06r)

135 The purpose of the EU is to destroy national sovereignty and independence of the European states, for the purpose of avoiding future wars.

The purpose is to match US economic output by forming an ersatz cargo cult Federal government. Except without freedom or guaranteed rights or any of that icky stuff.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:44 PM (2ocoG)

136 Germany seems hell-bent on genociding ethnic groups. This time the target is Germans within Germany. What is the opposite of Lebensraum?

Lebensloch? Lebenstaubsauger?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:44 PM (Riz8t)

137 Government spending should be considered negative to GDP.

I have said it. Let it be done. Let it be so.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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This is exactly right.

I think a really big driver now is that all these migrants need services, and buy shit on Amazon or Aldi, and send kids to schools.... Everything paid by gov.

None of that is "productive" or wealth creating for the country, as it is pure consumption

The whole point of GDP is producing things not consuming. It says so right in the name.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:44 PM (yIb5h)

138 >>> Touch my monkey! Touch it! Now we dance.
Posted by: Dieter from Sprockets at September 08, 2026 12:38 PM (mqudn)

Love that skit. Wish Mike Meyers had turned out cool like his other SNL cohosts and not a lefty toolbag.

Apparently he recently posted a picture of the feckless leader of Canada in a Captain America style superhero costume with a big maple leaf on it. As if he is single handedly taking on the supervillain Trump to save Canada.

Myers didn't get the memo that SHIELD was infiltrated by HYDRA, aka the new world order, to destroy his beloved Canada.

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:44 PM (Eng1Z)

139 "
It is no common for lefties to post graphs of price increases between 2020-2025 that show all the increases in 21/22 and yet rant "see prices are up under Trump!" and I legitimately think they do not understand the graph they are posting.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)"

They know, they just lie. Their entire ideology is built on lying because they feel they have achieved permanent, unconditional correctness.

This is no different than the last 50 years of Dems conflating debt, deficit, and growth in rate vs absolute rate in whatever way is convenient.

Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (TkJMd)

140 Another point about inflation - it least hits two groups:

1) Those on welfare, the government will just give them a COLA

2) The very wealthy that can move their money into assets that will increase in value due to inflation

Those most screwed? Members of the middle class with few assets - like renters.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (sKqQm)

141 1.3 million Syrians in Germany
......

U so farked.

Posted by: wth at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (UjdFS)

142 One thing about the Germans , when they start something they go all in. Kaiserism, Naziism , onto the leftist green one worlder movement which led them to gut their energy sector and open their borders.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (v6vok)

143 >>>CNN had a "meltdown" over the results, obvvie.

Heh.
Way with words, boss.

Posted by: m at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (odBC9)

144 with a very good chance of forming the first far-right state government since the Nazi era.
-------
Um, the Notsees were NOT far right; they were Socialists! Socialists are leftists...


"The parties switched!!"

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (vTZFs)

145 Ursula Von Der Leyen is not talking about nationalizing all bank accounts in the EU to reinvest that money in the redeveloping the EU
(this means they have run out of money, have run out of creditors, have run out of collateral to hock and now need to steal it from their kids)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

She's a creepy b***h. The Lindsey Clancy school of Charisma.


Nice looking for an older, closet Nazi, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

146 137 This is exactly right.

I think a really big driver now is that all these migrants need services, and buy shit on Amazon or Aldi, and send kids to schools.... Everything paid by gov.

None of that is "productive" or wealth creating for the country, as it is pure consumption

The whole point of GDP is producing things not consuming. It says so right in the name.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 12:44 PM (yIb5h)

======

Even just removing government spending, not making it negative, we haven't had positive economic growth since TARP.

That's of early last year. Don't know if things have changed. We have had several GDP reports where government spending was negative based on current measuring techniques.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:46 PM (qE8uT)

147 The German political spectrum is overall a bit more diverse and to the left of the Americans, so it is hard to give an accurate comparison, but the AfD is basically Nazis.

What was completely normal and common sense 20 years ago (10 years ago, really) is now labeled as "far right" today. And yet the political left wants to think that it's everybody else who has been radicalized. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so darn scary.

A German commentator on BBC says:
a) it’s eastern Germany, which still hasn’t recovered economically from reunification, and
b) voters there are asking for economic answers, not complaining about migration.

Sounds like media running damage control. The voters are absolutely anti migration. Even women were voting afd

The fascists are returning to power all around the world. Lots of coverage on this one specifically because the last time fascists ran Germany it wasn't very good for the rest of the world

"Fascists" and it's just a moderately right-wing party that wants closed borders LMAO. Redditors never fail to put a smile on my face

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 08, 2026 12:46 PM (t19vo)

148 Nice looking for an older, closet Nazi, though.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

Imagining her in a leather suit and a riding crop in hand?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (Y/06r)

149 Germany seems hell-bent on genociding ethnic groups. This time the target is Germans within Germany. What is the opposite of Lebensraum?


The point here is a little different. They are trying to re-introduce serfdom.

Immigrants don't mind it and it gives them muscle to deal with the local population if they do anything outside of vote for controlled opposition parties

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (sKqQm)

150 Saving democracy demands Germany abandon elections!

Posted by: CNN at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (D2n7p)

151 Always bothered me that they refer to the Nazis as being "right wing." Hitler was one of the most left wing leaders ever - don't believe me? Run a search for "Hitler" and "25 Points," the latter being the platform for the Nazi party.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (GMWTj)

152 Government spending should be considered negative to GDP.

I have said it. Let it be done. Let it be so.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison



Government spending is money already earned and the taxed. At the very least, it should be removed from GDP. Including it is double counting.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (1S6X6)

153 A German commentator on BBC says:
a) it’s eastern Germany, which still hasn’t recovered economically from reunification


*stares blankly*
Yeah, reunification with West Germany was a real economic blow.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (Riz8t)

154 "Fascists" and it's just a moderately right-wing party that wants closed borders LMAO. Redditors never fail to put a smile on my face

AfD isn't a right leaning party. They aren't even a center left party.

They are a standard Euro-left party that just doesn't want immigration.

Put Weidel and co in the Germany of 1996 and they'd be a standard leftwing party

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (sKqQm)

155 147 The fascists are returning to power all around the world. Lots of coverage on this one specifically because the last time fascists ran Germany it wasn't very good for the rest of the world

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 08, 2026 12:46 PM (t19vo)

========

Are they willing to defeat fascists by closing the border?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (qE8uT)

156 151 Always bothered me that they refer to the Nazis as being "right wing." Hitler was one of the most left wing leaders ever - don't believe me? Run a search for "Hitler" and "25 Points," the latter being the platform for the Nazi party.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (GMWTj)

BUT, they were nationalistic. THAT was the thing the commies fixated on as the defining characteristic of being on the right. The rest of it they loved, but the nationalism was counter to their goals.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (Y/06r)

157 >>> What was completely normal and common sense 20 years ago (10 years ago, really) is now labeled as "far right" today. And yet the political left wants to think that it's everybody else who has been radicalized. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so darn scary.

Wait, is that a moment of drive-by sanity on a Reddit post?!

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (Eng1Z)

158 The German political spectrum is overall a bit more diverse and to the left of the Americans, so it is hard to give an accurate comparison, but the AfD is basically Nazis.
=================
Socialists?

Posted by: CNN at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (D2n7p)

159 The krauts are suffering from Weltschmerz.

Posted by: wth at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (UjdFS)

160 "That's where the ditches, walls, and machine guns come in.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:33 PM (Riz8t)"

For the first time since I last pulled down a government check, I'm going to actually get out and practice some machinegunnery this fall.

Ammo budget is going to need to go up.


Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:49 PM (TkJMd)

161 Ace, SfD DID win an ourright majority.

The the fruad kicked in and they stole it from them.

Just tlike in the US, it was the vote-by-mail "ballots" that denied them 50%.

AfD was at 51% and rising, until thw vote-by-mail ballots were counted, and suddenly the fraydsters runnings hte givt had just eniugh to knock AfD under 50%.

It's what happened to Trump in 2020.

It's what happened to Spencer Pratt in LA.

The cancer of American electrion fruad techniques has now spread internationally.

Posted by: zombie at September 08, 2026 12:49 PM (Av6i5)

162 157 >>> What was completely normal and common sense 20 years ago (10 years ago, really) is now labeled as "far right" today. And yet the political left wants to think that it's everybody else who has been radicalized. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so darn scary.

Wait, is that a moment of drive-by sanity on a Reddit post?!
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (Eng1Z)

It does happen. I figure they are rapidly purged by moderators.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:49 PM (Y/06r)

163 Wait, is that a moment of drive-by sanity on a Reddit post?!

That person has probably been banned already.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:49 PM (2ocoG)

164 George Zimmerman, white Hispanic
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:42 PM (2ocoG)

Lindsay Clancy, loving mother

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (Eng1Z)

165 Are they willing to defeat fascists by closing the border?

This is the question.

*to Euroleft* All you have to do to defeat the "fascists" is close the border. You can keep all the rest of your policies in place, no matter how stupid. Why aren't you?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (Riz8t)

166 IIRC, AfD won twice as many seats as the next largest party.

It's one thing to cobble together a tiny majority to stop the formation of an AfD government, but being the largest party, by far, give AfD a virtual veto on all other issues important to a functioning government, like roads, bridges, building permits, government hiring, law enforcement usw.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)

167 'Send them back' chants rock European Parliament"
Sooooo..Germans going to expel 90% of Soccer Team?

Posted by: Long Duc Dong at September 08, 2026 12:51 PM (gZceY)

168 Germany could ban the AfD or just ban voting altogether. Either way, they would be doing it to save democracy.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


Couple of nights of some broken glass and it's all fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 08, 2026 12:51 PM (/xJ/M)

169 Very similar to the progressives that have been pushing for a leadership of the elites to rule scientifically ever since Wilson Plato.

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FIFY

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 08, 2026 12:51 PM (amcLV)

170 165 Are they willing to defeat fascists by closing the border?

This is the question.

*to Euroleft* All you have to do to defeat the "fascists" is close the border. You can keep all the rest of your policies in place, no matter how stupid. Why aren't you?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (Riz8t)

========

"Immigration is just a giant distraction now, preventing us from focusing on cutting off kids' dicks and lowering the age of consent. We have to abandon the open borders game to pursue true trans rights."
-soon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (qE8uT)

171 What was completely normal and common sense 20 years ago (10 years ago, really) is now labeled as "far right" today. And yet the political left wants to think that it's everybody else who has been radicalized. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so darn scary.
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"Fascists" and it's just a moderately right-wing party that wants closed borders LMAO. Redditors never fail to put a smile on my face

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison


"Warming up the banhammer, boss."
-- Reddit mods

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (vTZFs)

172 He did. That's why they are deeply invested into election fraud, arresting opposition leaders, and banning any ideas that run counter to their narrative
Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:28 PM (sKqQm)


The problem with shutting down, cancelling or even arresting people who ask the wrong question is that it turns people against your position, but it also makes the other position really attractive: "if these f___s are against it and they see it as a threat, we should adopt it because these f___s are keeping us from succeeding and we need that sort of threat to succeed"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (rbvCR)

173 CNN had a "meltdown" over the results, obvvie.

Heh.
Way with words, boss.
Posted by: m

Careful there, Ace...

Posted by: Abbvie at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (w9Wax)

174 166 IIRC, AfD won twice as many seats as the next largest party.

It's one thing to cobble together a tiny majority to stop the formation of an AfD government, but being the largest party, by far, give AfD a virtual veto on all other issues important to a functioning government, like roads, bridges, building permits, government hiring, law enforcement usw.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)

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It's Europe.

They're going to chose a weird coalition of 56% that doesn't include the 44% and the government in the region will fail miserably.

Europeans don't know any other way to do things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (qE8uT)

175 Wait, is that a moment of drive-by sanity on a Reddit post?!

A couple on there, probably all banned now

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:53 PM (K32Fz)

176 For the first time since I last pulled down a government check, I'm going to actually get out and practice some machinegunnery this fall.

Ammo budget is going to need to go up.
Posted by: heya



Dillon Aero M134D. About $2500 a minute.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 08, 2026 12:53 PM (/xJ/M)

177 *to Euroleft* All you have to do to defeat the "fascists" is close the border. You can keep all the rest of your policies in place, no matter how stupid. Why aren't you?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (Riz8t)

The first Democrat to campaign on Medicaid for All, Single-Payer, and closed borders will win in a walk.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:54 PM (PGK1w)

178 "
BUT, they were nationalistic. THAT was the thing the commies fixated on as the defining characteristic of being on the right. The rest of it they loved, but the nationalism was counter to their goals.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:48 PM (Y/06r)"

Yes, as opposed to those totally not nationalistic Russians. All the antinationalist talk has always been just that, talk, even if the Russians ultimately gave birth to a self sustaining monster.

The commies are mad because Hitler betrayed them, defacto forcing them to switch sides and causing decades of awkward efforts to keep people from remembering who started the war in europe.

Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:54 PM (TkJMd)

179 Bill Clinton, admirer of women.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:55 PM (mqudn)

180 call me when the Pograms start.

Posted by: Shaftoe at September 08, 2026 12:55 PM (BrTPw)

181 Sauregurkenzeit.

Posted by: wth at September 08, 2026 12:55 PM (UjdFS)

182 If I was the Fuhrer in Germany I would decree that anyone declaring someone to be a Nazi when that person doesnt support the Nazi ideals and program be required to attend a six week class on Nazism. Wanting recent arrivals to your country who wish to change the culture of your country to theirs and being against the current leadership of your country who wish to support and encourage the interests of the recent arrivals over the natives is decidely not Nazism.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 08, 2026 12:56 PM (CGH66)

183 BUT, they were nationalistic. THAT was the thing the commies fixated on as the defining characteristic of being on the right. The rest of it they loved, but the nationalism was counter to their goals.

Communists == international socialists
Nazis == national socialists

They weren't enemies, they were competitors for the same target market.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 12:56 PM (vTZFs)

184 *to Euroleft* All you have to do to defeat the "fascists" is close the border. You can keep all the rest of your policies in place, no matter how stupid. Why aren't you?

I firmly believe now that the point of open borders is to bring in compliant serfs and eliminate European whites, who are the only identifiable ethnic group that has a winning record against tyranny.

"Our betters" have a hankering for being actual medieval lords, and Crusader Kings 2 doesn't scratch the itch.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:57 PM (2ocoG)

185 Yes, as opposed to those totally not nationalistic Russians. All the antinationalist talk has always been just that, talk, even if the Russians ultimately gave birth to a self sustaining monster.

The commies are mad because Hitler betrayed them, defacto forcing them to switch sides and causing decades of awkward efforts to keep people from remembering who started the war in europe.
Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:54 PM (TkJMd)

But one could argue that there is a specifically nationalistic flavor to all of the governments who embraced socialism/communism/fascism. China is functionally a fascist state. Or that is just flat out what they are.

The thing is that all of these countries have exported the ideas to the west and THAT is anti-Nationalistic, because it is for use in functioning, non-commie states- until they stop functioning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 08, 2026 12:57 PM (Y/06r)

186 "The first Democrat to campaign on Medicaid for All, Single-Payer, and closed borders will win in a walk.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:54 PM (PGK1w)"

They are impatient and axing USAID has them spooked. They don't want those things you listed; they want a leninist dictatorship, and to genocide specific groups. They think the latter will deliver then former in their lifetime if they just keep up the flood of barbarians.

Posted by: heya at September 08, 2026 12:57 PM (TkJMd)

187 140 Another point about inflation - it least hits two groups:

1) Those on welfare, the government will just give them a COLA

2) The very wealthy that can move their money into assets that will increase in value due to inflation

Those most screwed? Members of the middle class with few assets - like renters.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (sKqQm)

Yes, lower middle class and middle class and upper middle class get annihilated by inflation. Old folks have their COLAs matched. Welfare get their COLAs matched. And rich folks have the ability to rotate assets to benefit and do not spend much of their day to day income on the assets that usually inflate (house, food, utilities, even education and healthcare)...

Working people get absolutely screwed b/c no business pays wage increases that keep up with inflation...so you fall further and further behind every year...see the Biden years...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 12:57 PM (tOcjL)

188 Far-right party considered Nazi-like. Hopes to ally with far-left party. Economy trashed, borders open, ready to go to war with Russia.

I don't think there's any way I could understand Germany.

Posted by: mindful webworker - neo-Moron at September 08, 2026 12:58 PM (aKb34)

189 Germany rejects the nationalism but keeps the socialism parts of their national socialist past. They would have been better off rejecting the socialism and keeping the nationalism.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 08, 2026 12:58 PM (xQz2n)

190 From what I've read, Hitler didn't really care about the socialist stuff in his party, but tolerated it to get working-class support and co-opt the Bolshies. The socialist stuff was put in by others. Hitler was more focused on foreign conquest and getting rid of the Jews.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 12:59 PM (77rzZ)

191 Bill Clinton, admirer of women.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 12:55 PM (mqudn)

Edmund Kemper, devoted son

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:59 PM (Eng1Z)

192 I still don't get calling Nazis far right. They were the enemies of small government and sought to take government control of industry, control the schools, eliminate free speech, and oh yeah, kill the jews.

Sounds exactly like the dems to me.

Posted by: LASue at September 08, 2026 12:59 PM (lCppi)

193 Germany rejects the nationalism but keeps the socialism parts of their national socialist past.

but dumped the corporatist part which was the only segment that made the socialism less awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:59 PM (K32Fz)

194 BTW, it looks like Xcancel is back. At least for now.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (vTZFs)

195 Communists == international socialists
Nazis == national socialists

They weren't enemies, they were competitors for the same target market.


National socialism comes from Mussolini. He was a run of the mill socialist who then differed as to whether you could support your own country in WWI.

Prior to that the socialists argued that countries were bad and they needed world wide socialism (world wide here meaning the US, Anglosphere and Europe, not the 3rd world)

So Mussolini and later others like Hitler implemented socialism in their own countries. And the funny thing is all socialist systems end up doing this: Mao, Stalin or Pot etc

Because text book communism is impossible and something like the German Nat Socialist system isn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (sKqQm)

196 Edmund Kemper, devoted son
Posted by: LizLem

This is about me, isn't it?
-- Nick Reiner

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (77rzZ)

197 You know who else was a lesbian and married to a Ceylonian?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 08, 2026 01:01 PM (oKZ/s)

198 Another point about inflation - it least hits two groups:

1) Those on welfare, the government will just give them a COLA

2) The very wealthy that can move their money into assets that will increase in value due to inflation

Those most screwed? Members of the middle class with few assets - like renters.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 12:45 PM (sKqQm)


The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. -- maybe John Maynard Keynes

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 01:01 PM (ExV1e)

199 Trying to make sense of National Socialism in contemporary left-right terms is a fool's errand. The social revolutionary wing, Gregor Strasser, Ernst Rohm, was killed off during the night of long knives.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 08, 2026 01:02 PM (wGerL)

200 1pm

MSNow - trade war!
CNN - toxic air! Trade war!
Fox - GOP Texas convention

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 01:02 PM (Sco7b)

201 Remember, the only two choices in Germany are unlimited immigration or the second coming of Adolph Hitler.

There are no other alternatives.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2026 01:04 PM (aD4fx)

202 Isn't "the trade war" just the US matching existing Canadian tariffs?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:04 PM (sKqQm)

203 I firmly believe now that the point of open borders is to bring in compliant serfs and eliminate European whites, who are the only identifiable ethnic group that has a winning record against tyranny.

"Our betters" have a hankering for being actual medieval lords, and Crusader Kings 2 doesn't scratch the itch.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 12:57 PM (2ocoG)
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The tragic flaw in this plan is that the "compliant serfs" they are importing are nothing of the sort. The immigrant population from MENA sees themselves as CONQUERORS, not serfs. They are going to reach critical mass soon, if they haven't already, and we will see an even more radical shift as more and more MENA imports start achieving greater political control within the system.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 01:04 PM (FZ29D)

204 201 Remember, the only two choices in Germany are unlimited immigration or the second coming of Adolph Hitler.

There are no other alternatives.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2026 01:04 PM (aD4fx)

=======

"Well, I hate unlimited immigration and Hitler never did anything bad to me..."
-the logic

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:04 PM (qE8uT)

205 Always bothered me that they refer to the Nazis as being "right wing." Hitler was one of the most left wing leaders ever - don't believe me? Run a search for "Hitler" and "25 Points," the latter being the platform for the Nazi party.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 12:47 PM (GMWTj)


I shan't believe it, you might as well be claiming that he adopted a lot of FDR's New Deal policies as his own, or Eugenics policies from liberal leaning states in the US.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 01:05 PM (rbvCR)

206 Hitler didn't really care about the socialist stuff in his party, but tolerated it to get working-class support and co-opt the Bolshies. The socialist stuff was put in by others. Hitler was more focused on foreign conquest and getting rid of the Jews.
Posted by: Bulg

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Bulg, what is more socialist than genocide? It is always their main ingredient.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 01:05 PM (yIb5h)

207 "Well, I hate unlimited immigration and Hitler never did anything bad to me..."
-the logic


This is one possible outcome of this strategy. Amusingly the left regularly argues something like "if you call any economic intervention communism eventually people won't think communism is so bad"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:05 PM (sKqQm)

208 And AfD won an absolute majority of the in-person votes.

However, AfD got a much smaller share of the mail-in votes.

Funny how that works.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2026 01:06 PM (aD4fx)

209 "Warming up the banhammer, boss."
-- Reddit mods
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (vTZFs)


Obvious fake. Reddit mods would say comrade, not boss.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 01:06 PM (ExV1e)

210 Bulg, what is more socialist than genocide? It is always their main ingredient.

Socialism does a poor job in creating wealth. So it instead then feels pressure to take wealth from others and that is easiest if you kill them as part of the process.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:06 PM (sKqQm)

211 210 Socialism does a poor job in creating wealth. So it instead then feels pressure to take wealth from others and that is easiest if you kill them as part of the process.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:06 PM (sKqQm)

======

*invades all its neighbors*
-Revolutionary France

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:07 PM (qE8uT)

212 Hitler was more focused on foreign conquest and getting rid of the Jews.

Also, since Nazi Germany exercised complete control over private companies, who cares if they are formally state-owned or not?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 08, 2026 01:07 PM (aD4fx)

213 Lots of Turks in Germany, too.
The West Germans started bringing them in during the 1960s for labor.

There are so many Erdogan campaigned in Germany years ago just to get the expat vote.
The Germans told him not to do that again.

So he opened the borders and let all the Syrians walk through Turkey.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (6ydKt)

214 202 Isn't "the trade war" just the US matching existing Canadian tariffs?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:04 P

A bit more. But President Trump is right. We've been ungratefully coasting on US goodwill.

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (Sco7b)

215 It's Europe.

They're going to chose a weird coalition of 56% that doesn't include the 44% and the government in the region will fail miserably.

Europeans don't know any other way to do things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:52 PM (qE8uT)
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Considering the party-growth trendline, Germany's AfD and France's RN are in a neck-and-neck race to crack the pro-EU national government cordons. The old rules are no longer in play.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (rj6Yv)

216 John Wayne Gacy, aspiring clown

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (mqudn)

217 Hitler didn't really care about the socialist stuff in his party,...The socialist stuff was put in by others. Hitler was more focused on foreign conquest and getting rid of the Jews.
-----------

"Other than the genocide, Hitler was not at all socialist"

Sounds like: "other than the milk and cream, our ice cream is not at all a dairy product."

genocide is the defining trait of socialism --- "once we get rid of all the wreckers, we will have utopia, trust me."

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (yIb5h)

218 215
Considering the party-growth trendline, Germany's AfD and France's RN are in a neck-and-neck race to crack the pro-EU national government cordons. The old rules are no longer in play.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:08 PM (rj6Yv)

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The funny part of the German equation is that the Germans will definitely do this but it's only for a regional legislature. The example will just tell the rest of the country that AfD lite just leads to anti-AfD coalitions. The people will react.

Polling suggests that RN in France may already be clear majority. We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:09 PM (qE8uT)

219 "U.S. Treasury sanctions 36 targets over their support for Iran’s aviation sector, including 27 Iranian commercial airlines and several foreign companies and individuals accused of facilitating Mahan Air’s operations.

The foreign targets are based in the UAE, Oman, Turkey, the UK and Malaysia."

....but mostly Turkey...

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 01:09 PM (AKptf)

220 Bulg, what is more socialist than genocide? It is always their main ingredient.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus)

Eh, plenty of non-socialist countries have carried out genocide: The Germans in Namibia, the Ottomans in Armenia, even, on a couple of occasions, the Brits (Beothuk in Newfoundland and the Tasmanians).

Socialists tend to be equal-opportunity exterminators, and base their killings on perceived socio-economic class rather than ethnicity.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 01:09 PM (77rzZ)

221 Fascism is just socialism with nationalism tacked on. The German industries may have been private but they didn't go against the government and were generally toadies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (v6vok)

222 You know who else was a lesbian and married to a Ceylonian?"

*golf clap

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (cGjQu)

223
In Europe, you have the rights the government deigns to permit you. That same government also makes it clear that it will revoke those rights if it wants to.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (eRlcH)

224 Holy underwear! We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentleman!

Posted by: Herr Merz at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (5rh/l)

225
221 Fascism is just socialism with nationalism tacked on. The German industries may have been private but they didn't go against the government and were generally toadies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (v6vok)

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Nationalization of industry was de facto rather than de jure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (qE8uT)

226
*to Euroleft* All you have to do to defeat the "fascists" is close the border. You can keep all the rest of your policies in place, no matter how stupid. Why aren't you?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 12:50 PM (Riz8t)

The first Democrat to campaign on Medicaid for All, Single-Payer, and closed borders will win in a walk.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung

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This is true on both counts, but you know the Euroleft and the Dems would both open the borders the minute they took power.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (XJ22o)

227 Ladies of the View, thought leaders

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 01:11 PM (v6vok)

228 Hitler was more focused on foreign conquest and getting rid of the Jews.

Before he became fuhrer Hitler's initial target was Jewish financiers. The argument was that "Jewish capitalism" was bad for Germany. He hated Jews as a whole and planned to do bad things to Jewish people collectively when he got the opportunity, but blaming their economic activity sold better when elective politics still mattered.

And yes if you substitute Jew for Musk right now you can hear the same arguments from the left...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (sKqQm)

229 226 The first Democrat to campaign on Medicaid for All, Single-Payer, and closed borders will win in a walk.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung

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This is true on both counts, but you know the Euroleft and the Dems would both open the borders the minute they took power.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (XJ22o)

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No one will that message will get the kind of press support necessary to carry anything in the Democrat Party for at least 2 more election cycles.

If Democrats underperform in 2026 and lose in 2028 all while flying their freak flags, maybe the losses will convince them to push into moderation.

Still, there's the Italian Democrat Party to take as an example. They keep losing and keep not letting go of the open borders nonsense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (qE8uT)

230 194 BTW, it looks like Xcancel is back. At least for now.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (vTZFs)

Lots of links using it on Instapundit.

Posted by: m at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (odBC9)

231 They don't break eggs to make omelettes,

They promise you omelettes to justify breaking all the eggs.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (yIb5h)

232
231 They don't break eggs to make omelettes,

They promise you omelettes to justify breaking all the eggs.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (yIb5h)

========

"We broke the stove while breaking the eggs. We don't know how to make a stove."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (qE8uT)

233 The Brits also built the first of what we now call concentration camps during the Boer Wars.

The Boers certainly thought it was genocide-ish.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (6ydKt)

234
The funny part of the German equation is that the Germans will definitely do this but it's only for a regional legislature.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

================

I was wondering what a regional legislature can do about the borders.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (XJ22o)

235 >>> Eh, plenty of non-socialist countries have carried out genocide: The Germans in Namibia, the Ottomans in Armenia, even, on a couple of occasions, the Brits (Beothuk in Newfoundland and the Tasmanians).

I read an interesting thing about the British when they went there to control Nigeria. There was so much open blood sacrifice and child slaughter that the Brits were openly horrified. Funny how Nigeria does not mention that in the travel pamphlets. I assume the Brits put a stop to that like they did the bride burning in India.

Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (Eng1Z)

236 He needs to stop pulling his pants up to his armpits.
Posted by: Archimedes
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At some point, a man has to decide, 'Over, or, under'. Suspenders are an option.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (XeU6L)

237 Nationalization of industry was de facto rather than de jure"

It's de thing we do

/socialists

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (cGjQu)

238 "our institutions are resilient and stable" and the country will stick to its values and constitution after the AfD win.

-
Wir haben Deep State.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 08, 2026 01:14 PM (ndZc7)

239 You know who else was a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 08, 2026 01:14 PM (guGkK)

240 Lots of Turks in Germany, too.

I saw a thing on X today that there's a beauty salon in Istanbul called "7 October" (yes, in English). So you can get a perm and thrill to killing Jews for Allah in one stop.

Make Istanbul Constantinople Again.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 01:14 PM (2ocoG)

241 Read a lot about this over the weekend. Lots of 'far right' stuff but not one article identified what the party stands for.

When I finally found one, I was truly shocked. As ace says, these nasty Germans don't want to pay ME men to rape their kids and be forced to cheer it on.

Everyone knows you have to let small dicked ME men touch your daughter or its the holocaust all over.

Posted by: MJ at September 08, 2026 01:14 PM (XOmY9)

242 239 You know who else was a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 08, 2026 01:14 PM (guGkK)

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Arthur C. Clarke where the Sri Lanken is a 7 year old boy?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:15 PM (qE8uT)

243 The Brits also built the first of what we now call concentration camps during the Boer Wars.

The Boers certainly thought it was genocide-ish.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 08, 2026 01:13 PM (6ydKt)
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Time for another viewing of "Breaker Morant"?

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)

244 Make Istanbul Constantinople Again.
Posted by: Ian S.

The Eastern Orthodox still call it that.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 01:15 PM (77rzZ)

245 230 194 BTW, it looks like Xcancel is back. At least for now.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (vTZFs)

Lots of links using it on Instapundit.
Posted by: m at September 08, 2026 01:12 PM (odBC9)

I've pretty much weaned myself off 𝕏 in the last, what, couple of weeks? Giving me many more free hours in a day!

Posted by: m at September 08, 2026 01:15 PM (odBC9)

246 "In May 2025, Germany's Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) classified the AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist" group..."

The EuroWeenie Establishment labels every party to the right of Lenin a right-wing extremist group. It's their dog whistle meaning N@zis.

Posted by: Gref at September 08, 2026 01:16 PM (5rh/l)

247 Nazis == national socialists

They weren't enemies, they were competitors for the same target market.
Posted by: Oddbob


100% correct.

Posted by: zombie at September 08, 2026 01:16 PM (Av6i5)

248 Arthur C. Clarke where the Sri Lanken is a 7 year old boy?"

Ok, I was trying to figure out an Arthur C Clark reference...

*tips cap

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (cGjQu)

249 nood clancy

Posted by: m at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (odBC9)

250 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (77rzZ)

251 In May 2025, Germany's Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) classified the AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist" group

Some real "51 former intelligence officers asserted that Trump and Putin assaulted them in the dressing room at Bergdorf's" energy there.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (2ocoG)

252 247 Nazis == national socialists

They weren't enemies, they were competitors for the same target market.
Posted by: Oddbob

100% correct.

Posted by: zombie at September 08, 2026 01:16 PM (Av6i5)

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"False. Nazis were small government libertarians who only wanted the government to fund national defense and roads."
-that hippy I knew in Italy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (qE8uT)

253 "In May 2025, Germany's Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) classified the AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist" group..."


That'll be $10 million in taxpayer funding please.

Posted by: The Southern Poverty Law Center at September 08, 2026 01:17 PM (guGkK)

254 The Turks came over in the 80s and 90s. Supposed to work adn leave but never did. They live in segregated neighborhoods and are basically second class citizens.

Posted by: MJ at September 08, 2026 01:18 PM (XOmY9)

255 When the NAZIs first started to acquire political power in Germany there was a debate in the USSR as to whether or not this was the communism Marx had predicted.

Remember he did NOT predict communism breaking out in backwards like the old Russian Empire but in more advanced societies like the US, the UK or...Germany.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 08, 2026 01:18 PM (sKqQm)

256
Communists == international socialists
Nazis == national socialists

They weren't enemies, they were competitors for the same target market.

Posted by: Oddbob
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They would kill each other for it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (6T7Go)

257 Time for another viewing of "Breaker Morant"?
Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)

I believe I watched some of that movie when I was a kid. I didn’t know anything about it, didn’t understand what the hell was going on, got bored, and never watched it again.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen the entire film.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (6ydKt)

258 BTW, it looks like Xcancel is back. At least for now.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:00 PM (vTZFs)
******
What is Xcancel?

Posted by: redridinghood at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

259
If Democrats underperform in 2026 and lose in 2028 all while flying their freak flags, maybe the losses will convince them to push into moderation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

====================

I think that as soon as 2028 they'll be trying to square that circle. If Kamala is the candidate, I'll listen out for something about how "we left the Trump administration with a fully secured border" but ICE is out of control and we need to restore our national values to our immigration policy. How's that sound? They ought to hire me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (XJ22o)

260 The Boers certainly thought it was genocide-ish.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

------------
Or you could say it was the opposite of genocide, as the purpose was to isolate non-combatants who were supplying the combatants.

The alternative was to just kill them all.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (yIb5h)

261 The Turks came over in the 80s and 90s. Supposed to work adn leave but never did. They live in segregated neighborhoods and are basically second class citizens.
Posted by: MJ at September 08, 2026 01:18 PM (XOmY9)
===

Based on what I'm reading lately, it's more like the younger set see themselves as first-class citizens of Turkey biding their time in Germany.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

262 zuletzt!

Posted by: wth at September 08, 2026 01:20 PM (UjdFS)

263 259
I think that as soon as 2028 they'll be trying to square that circle. If Kamala is the candidate, I'll listen out for something about how "we left the Trump administration with a fully secured border" but ICE is out of control and we need to restore our national values to our immigration policy. How's that sound? They ought to hire me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (XJ22o)

=======

Kamala is more likely to run on giving citizenship to anyone deported by Trump than moderating on immigration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 01:21 PM (qE8uT)

264 Fascism is just socialism with nationalism tacked on. The German industries may have been private but they didn't go against the government and were generally toadies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 01:10 PM (v6vok)


Fascism is the development of the idea that if workers, bankers and those that own the means of production work together they can do greater things. In such the production of all industries are set up as cartels between money, labor and capital. This recreates the medieval guild structure.
Since all tend to cheat on each other, the government is brought in to mediate, and winds up being the main partner, and the main customer where it is not the main path that good get to market. In that path the government then dominates all industries.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 01:22 PM (rbvCR)

265 To dream the impossible dream . . .

The Bulwark
@BulwarkOnline
.@SarahLongwell25: "Right now, the number one New York Times bestseller is Ted Cruz's biography of Clarence Thomas. The only thing I want in the world right now is to knock Ted Cruz off the New York Times bestseller list."

-
I'd've gone with eternal youth, health, and wealth but then I'm a conservative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 08, 2026 01:22 PM (ndZc7)

266 believe I watched some of that movie when I was a kid. I didn’t know anything about it, didn’t understand what the hell was going on, got bored, and never watched it again.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen the entire film.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 08, 2026 01:19 PM (6ydKt)
=====

I recommend it.

Posted by: mrp at September 08, 2026 01:22 PM (rj6Yv)

267 They don't break eggs to make omelettes,

They promise you omelettes to justify breaking all the eggs.

Posted by: bob


Where's the omelette?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 01:22 PM (jlUZM)

268 ICE is murdering our citizens

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 08, 2026 01:23 PM (6T7Go)

269 145 Nice looking for an older, closet Nazi, though.

soup nazi > closet nazi

*no closet for you*

Posted by: anachronda at September 08, 2026 01:26 PM (v3pYe)

270 You know who else was a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan?

Arthur C. Clarke?

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:30 PM (vTZFs)

271 Trump has gone too far now!

Bad Hombre
@Badhombre
Marjorie Taylor Greene just went on Chris Cuomo’s show, where both claimed to have received text messages from President Trump saying their children deserve to be murdered.
Neither Greene nor Cuomo has made the text messages public, because it never happened. They don’t exist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 08, 2026 01:30 PM (ndZc7)

272 Well, I can no longer access comments or read the full post on the top post, because of the ad. I supposed iPhone/Safari users are only a small minority. No biggie.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 08, 2026 01:32 PM (UWN7z)

273 Well, we can all agree with Tucker about this.

Max 📟
@MaxNordau
Tucker Carlson asks why algebra puts letters into numbers.
Jess Elofson explains: "I think just to fuck with you."
They discuss how they've never met anyone in their life who uses algebra, which is "fake math" for people "in the matrix."
They conclude that caring about algebra is something that only "good little goy slaves" do.

https://tinyurl.com/3fawztw7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 08, 2026 01:33 PM (ndZc7)

274 What is Xcancel?

Basically, a no-registration-required access to X content. Change any x.com URL to xcancel.com and get around X's login restrictions.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:34 PM (vTZFs)

275 "Illegal migration, unchecked open borders, anyone can get in"

That's only true for certain groups. If I wanted to move to Germany it would be nearly impossible.


Posted by: Ripley at September 08, 2026 01:34 PM (GUOwU)

276 Tucker Carlson asks why algebra puts letters into numbers.
Jess Elofson explains: "I think just to fuck with you."


"Those who refuse to do math are doomed to speak nonsense."*
-- Prof. John McCarthy

* from memory so maybe not exact but close enough

Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 01:37 PM (vTZFs)

277 “ LOL. It's led by a lesbian who's married to a Sri Lankan.”

How is this just not more Uniparty? This dyke cunt doesn’t actually stand for a goddamned thing. Clearly co-opting the movement.

Posted by: Deceesed Foosball Coach Schnellenberger at September 08, 2026 01:38 PM (r/N61)

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