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The Morning Rant
Officials are drafting a rule that would let married couples with one stay-at-home spouse tap federal child care subsidies, a priority of Vice President JD Vance, the New York Times reported. The plan would carve out a new category the draft calls "parent-based child care," letting one married parent draw assistance to care for their child while the other works at least 35 hours a week, according to the Times.Hey JD...cut welfare, support strong voting security, continue the administration's work enforcing a strong border and tossing illegals out. No matter what your experience with multigenerational poverty, government is not the answer, and 60 years of Johnson's Great Society has shown us that in most cases, government is the cause! Shrinking government is the best way to solidify the family in America. Give Americans more of their own money, and the problem will mostly be solved. Getting rid of many millions of illegals who hoover up housing stock and medical care and distort the labor market will pretty much finish the job. If America has it in itself to return to a saner culture, that is the way to give it a chance. More welfare will do the opposite. And as long as I am giving Vance some advice...deal with your Tucker Carlson problem, or you are going to lose conservative support. The fact that you have not forcefully rejected Carlson's lunacy, which include attacks on President Trump and his policies, suggests that you are trying to please everyone, including Carlson's army of Pakistani bots and America-hating leftists who gobble up Carlson's nonsense. That's a dangerous path, and one that might not work the way you want. [Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter and X/Twitter]. If you folks who are on X/Twitter would follow us it would be much appreciated!
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Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 08, 2026 10:42 AM (zdLoL)
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I don't agree with it but I can see the possible long term benefits.
You open up jobs in the economy formerly held by working moms and you have a child raised by a parent instead of the streets.
That said, I grew up with two parents working full time blue collar jobs and I turned out somewhat normal. My father wouldn't have taken a subsidy anyway.
You open up jobs in the economy formerly held by working moms and you have a child raised by a parent instead of the streets.
That said, I grew up with two parents working full time blue collar jobs and I turned out somewhat normal. My father wouldn't have taken a subsidy anyway.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:46 AM (KC5Lt)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 08, 2026 10:46 AM (9Q+nP)
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Early
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 10:47 AM (mqudn)
Posted by: Looking For A Handout at September 08, 2026 10:47 AM (Z8Kuq)
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Get ready for Mohammed to get credits for 12 non existent kids, raised by his non existent wife.
Meanwhile John who has 1 child will be denied because he didn’t fill out form 1021-23 in full.
Meanwhile John who has 1 child will be denied because he didn’t fill out form 1021-23 in full.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:48 AM (U1NLK)
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I think this JD/Tucker thing is just distraction. Tucker is obviously a shill for other's money but that doesn't mean he cant be a friend.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 08, 2026 10:48 AM (3Ope8)
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It'll be fraud-free!
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 10:48 AM (mqudn)
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Im not saying people in my area have bad teeth, but one woman just smiled in Walmart and the barcode scanner picked it up as a set of saucepans.
Posted by: clarence at September 08, 2026 10:48 AM (311fa)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 08, 2026 10:49 AM (ccf/V)
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Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:49 AM (U1NLK)
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Second look at Evan McMullin?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (iFTx/)
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All the leaves are brown
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (Qp6qM)
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Congress appropriates fund. The executive branch is legally bound to spend the money. However, they can makes some changes to where the money goes. That is all that is happening here.
>>The money would come from the Child Care and Development Fund, a roughly $12 billion program administered by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
See? All ready appropriated. If we want a cut in spending, and we do, it must come from congress.
Have a good day all.
>>The money would come from the Child Care and Development Fund, a roughly $12 billion program administered by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
See? All ready appropriated. If we want a cut in spending, and we do, it must come from congress.
Have a good day all.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (viF8m)
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Why wouldn't you just increase the child care credit on income tax?
If you're going to do anything.........Let them keep more of their money.
If you're going to do anything.........Let them keep more of their money.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (ccf/V)
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I won't vote for JD Vance in the primaries if he doesn't publicly disavow Tucker Carlson and all that bastard stands for. If Vance does win the primaries, I'll vote for him in the general with the same reluctance I felt when I voted for McCain. (Palin made it easier.) We simply can't lose this coming election.
Posted by: troyriser at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (v1M8F)
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If we want a cut in spending, and we do, it must come from congress.
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Sir,
Last year we spent $100B on this program. The democrats wanted a $10B increase. We, the fiscally Conservative Party stood firm and only gave them an extra $9B. So as you see we actually cut $1B in spending.
- GOP
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Sir,
Last year we spent $100B on this program. The democrats wanted a $10B increase. We, the fiscally Conservative Party stood firm and only gave them an extra $9B. So as you see we actually cut $1B in spending.
- GOP
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (U1NLK)
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Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (viF8m)
Did they explain it wouldn't be new funding but from existing funding? That should be the first thing said and last thing said whenever a statement about the proposed program is made.
Did they explain it wouldn't be new funding but from existing funding? That should be the first thing said and last thing said whenever a statement about the proposed program is made.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (KC5Lt)
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I’m on team Rubio. Vance has always given be a weird vibe. His coziness to Tuqur just confirms it for me.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:53 AM (U1NLK)
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Somehow I seriously doubt J.D. Vance is going to take the public's advice on dealing with his relationship with Tucker Carlson. When Vance officially adopts some/all of Carlson's positions I'll get concerned.
Until then.... the field, over there, is barren.
Until then.... the field, over there, is barren.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 08, 2026 10:54 AM (2Cry5)
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Shrinking Government. So often harangued about, so often lamented over, yet, like Herpes never cured. No politician really wants that, bloviations aside. Power is money, money is power, something I learned long ago and I imagine all of us did too.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (Gqar8)
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Instead of offering a government check, structure it as a tax break for intact families with at least one parent working full time.
Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.
Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (1z8ji)
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I think this JD/Tucker thing is just distraction. Tucker is obviously a shill for other's money but that doesn't mean he cant be a friend.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
JD actually gave a good response when he was doing the morning press briefing and someone asked him about Tucker. He basically said that he and Tucker disagree about a lot of things, but that he's not going to go down the leftist road of making everything about politics, so he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.
YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
JD actually gave a good response when he was doing the morning press briefing and someone asked him about Tucker. He basically said that he and Tucker disagree about a lot of things, but that he's not going to go down the leftist road of making everything about politics, so he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.
YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ)
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90% of posters here were in love with Tucker before the brain worm got him. I imagine it's harder to disown a friend as fast as arm length internet commentators can but I agree something has to be said soon by Vance.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (KC5Lt)
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Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (Gqar
The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)
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JR ain't tha guy.
Posted by: GigantorX at September 08, 2026 10:58 AM (LyMaz)
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25 Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (Gqar
The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)
He is not a professional politician. He is a Black Swan and his like will not be soon seen again.
The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)
He is not a professional politician. He is a Black Swan and his like will not be soon seen again.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (Gqar8)
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (77rzZ)
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so he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.
That's fine but he needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally.
That's fine but he needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)
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Government solutions are always the answer with goverment people.
Posted by: Halfhand at September 08, 2026 11:00 AM (sV9n4)
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It’s one thing to be friends with someone who thinks the top tax rate should be higher than what you think it should be.
It’s another to be friends with a guy who thinks 9/11 was an Israeli inside job or who thinks Charlie Kirk was killed by Mossad.
It’s another to be friends with a guy who thinks 9/11 was an Israeli inside job or who thinks Charlie Kirk was killed by Mossad.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:00 AM (U1NLK)
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The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)
In two years, Trump made the Federal government the smallest it's been in sixty years.
I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)
In two years, Trump made the Federal government the smallest it's been in sixty years.
I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:01 AM (PGK1w)
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If you can't end the fraud then cut me in on it.
Posted by: DaveA at September 08, 2026 11:01 AM (FhXTo)
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I'm beginning to equate Vance with Pence. He's definitely not MAGA.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:02 AM (g8Ew8)
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Transfer payments? MORE transfer payments? That is the last thing on earth the United States of America needs, and for the administration to suggest more welfare -- because that is what it is -- suggests that they are unserious about the deficit and the debt.
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This is not more transfer payments.
This is redirecting transfer payments that were going out no matter what.
Only Congress can end this program. So...get to calling your legislators.
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This is not more transfer payments.
This is redirecting transfer payments that were going out no matter what.
Only Congress can end this program. So...get to calling your legislators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:02 AM (qE8uT)
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It is September 2026. The 2028 campaign has kicked off, apparently. It is like Target and Halloween merchandising.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:03 AM (Gqar8)
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Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:49 AM (U1NLK)
Worked. Past tense.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:49 AM (U1NLK)
Worked. Past tense.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:03 AM (ExV1e)
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32 In two years, Trump made the Federal government the smallest it's been in sixty years.
I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:01 AM (PGK1w)
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He's shrinking it to the max degree that he can alone. Slashing regulations and canning federal workers is great.
But more requires Congress passing laws that repeal existing laws that established programs et al.
It's the same argument over visas. Trump is minimizing them as much as possible, but he can't end then. Congress has to do that.
Hell, maybe if the GOP keeps the House next year, some repeals may get through with a Senate that no longer includes Mitch, Cassidy, Cornyn, or Ernst.
I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:01 AM (PGK1w)
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He's shrinking it to the max degree that he can alone. Slashing regulations and canning federal workers is great.
But more requires Congress passing laws that repeal existing laws that established programs et al.
It's the same argument over visas. Trump is minimizing them as much as possible, but he can't end then. Congress has to do that.
Hell, maybe if the GOP keeps the House next year, some repeals may get through with a Senate that no longer includes Mitch, Cassidy, Cornyn, or Ernst.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (qE8uT)
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Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)
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22 Instead of offering a government check, structure it as a tax break for intact families with at least one parent working full time.
Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2026 1
I really like that idea. I thought there was an asian country where you don't pay income tax if you have so many kids. Which is how it should be so welfare leaches don't benefit since they don't work.
I'd also like homeschooling families to be paid directly out of general education funds. Make the schools compete for the dollars. Maybe we'll see less than 69 genders.
Star Trek Day on 'The Price is Right.' Hmmm. Cool sets.
Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2026 1
I really like that idea. I thought there was an asian country where you don't pay income tax if you have so many kids. Which is how it should be so welfare leaches don't benefit since they don't work.
I'd also like homeschooling families to be paid directly out of general education funds. Make the schools compete for the dollars. Maybe we'll see less than 69 genders.
Star Trek Day on 'The Price is Right.' Hmmm. Cool sets.
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 11:05 AM (Sco7b)
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39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)
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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.
Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.
39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)
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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.
Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:05 AM (qE8uT)
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39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)
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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.
Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:05 AM (qE8uT)
So you are saying that Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?
39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)
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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.
Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:05 AM (qE8uT)
So you are saying that Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Gqar8)
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Vance came out of nowhere to become a senator and then 2 years later VP. That’s unusual to say the least. All because a book he wrote? Sounds sus as the kids would say.
I find it somewhat ironic that many of the people who are up in arms about flock cameras shrug at Vance being besties with the guy who started Palantir.
I find it somewhat ironic that many of the people who are up in arms about flock cameras shrug at Vance being besties with the guy who started Palantir.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (U1NLK)
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you if no one's open, just throw it away at September 08, 2026 11:07 AM (ZxPkt)
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42 So you are saying that Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Gqar
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heh
My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Gqar
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heh
My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:07 AM (qE8uT)
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That's fine but he needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)
Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)
Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
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I'm beginning to equate Vance with Pence. He's definitely not MAGA.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:02 AM
Wow.
That's quite a leap.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:02 AM
Wow.
That's quite a leap.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V)
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11 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
Used to. Now doing his own consulting. Bigger question might be who do his two Democrat daughters work for.
Anyway, 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Tucker and conservative brother, Buckley, discussed their regrets backing Trump.
I think J.D. might be playing his own independent game. Certainly not the 1st VP to do so.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
Used to. Now doing his own consulting. Bigger question might be who do his two Democrat daughters work for.
Anyway, 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Tucker and conservative brother, Buckley, discussed their regrets backing Trump.
I think J.D. might be playing his own independent game. Certainly not the 1st VP to do so.
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (NFX2v)
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If Vance is the nominee I’ll vote for him because a Democrat alternative is a non starter. However he will not be my choice in the primary.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (U1NLK)
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I find it somewhat ironic that many of the people who are up in arms about flock cameras shrug at Vance being besties with the guy who started Palantir.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (U1NLK)
The same Palantir whose tech is helping the Trump Administration find and remove illegals?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (U1NLK)
The same Palantir whose tech is helping the Trump Administration find and remove illegals?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (PGK1w)
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With Tuq'r Qatar-son going his current trajectory, what's the current odds on the betting apps that, despite Vance sticking by Tuq'r, Tuq'r is instead going to campaign for the Democrat? Even during the primaries.
Posted by: Another Anon at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (4h45B)
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I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar8)
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Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)
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Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
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It's actually brilliant! Since Congress won't decrease the program, Vance moves the program funding from wildly liberal families to wildly conservative ones...which will make Congress probably decrease the funding.
Win/win as I'm sitting here.
Now that Trump's name is on it, the program will be cut immediately, which is what Trump wants...
Win/win as I'm sitting here.
Now that Trump's name is on it, the program will be cut immediately, which is what Trump wants...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:12 AM (tOcjL)
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other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
Does Rubio have good friends who are out and proud Nazis funded by Qatar to spread anti-American propaganda? If so then yes I’d like an explanation from him as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
Does Rubio have good friends who are out and proud Nazis funded by Qatar to spread anti-American propaganda? If so then yes I’d like an explanation from him as well.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:12 AM (U1NLK)
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Thx CBD.
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (v6vok)
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Carlson is notmletting friendship get in the way of grift.Priorities!!
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (Gqar8)
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53 Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)
Rubio was Gang of 8, so I'm certain he's friends with a few undesirable D Senators...that doesn't disquailify him for me, anymore than Vance's friendship does, as long as it's "friendship, not policy advisor"...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)
Rubio was Gang of 8, so I'm certain he's friends with a few undesirable D Senators...that doesn't disquailify him for me, anymore than Vance's friendship does, as long as it's "friendship, not policy advisor"...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (tOcjL)
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I think J.D. might be playing his own independent game. Certainly not the 1st VP to do so.
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (NFX2v)
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A cause for concern. A reminder of how Mike Pence turned out as our VP.
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (NFX2v)
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A cause for concern. A reminder of how Mike Pence turned out as our VP.
Posted by: Another Anon at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (4h45B)
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Women working from home is not just a choice, it is something that became obligatory in the early 70's. I remember when mom went back to work. She hadn't intended to do so until I was older, but it made sense because money was tight. It was tight for everyone.
Oddly it is still tight, the quote I saw is that salaries are not really keeping up to costs unless you start switching out cheaper food and supplies for what we used to get, and that is all shitified so we get to buy more when it breaks.
I don't see this as a subsidization of families, as it is the first step to supporting parents to have a single working parent and a stay at home mom.
Here is an article on the great capitalist swindle that was pulled on "feminists" that touches on this idea
https://tinyurl.com/ftm96362
Oddly it is still tight, the quote I saw is that salaries are not really keeping up to costs unless you start switching out cheaper food and supplies for what we used to get, and that is all shitified so we get to buy more when it breaks.
I don't see this as a subsidization of families, as it is the first step to supporting parents to have a single working parent and a stay at home mom.
Here is an article on the great capitalist swindle that was pulled on "feminists" that touches on this idea
https://tinyurl.com/ftm96362
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (rbvCR)
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If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)
Ah, but if you're left in ignorance about his friendships... that's okay? Vance has said that he disagrees with Carlson about many things. Carlson isn't an advisor. His son, when he worked for Vance, wasn't an advisor. Ask yourself who benefits from sowing distrust about the VP. It's an op. Same as everything else.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)
Ah, but if you're left in ignorance about his friendships... that's okay? Vance has said that he disagrees with Carlson about many things. Carlson isn't an advisor. His son, when he worked for Vance, wasn't an advisor. Ask yourself who benefits from sowing distrust about the VP. It's an op. Same as everything else.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (ExV1e)
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57 Thx CBD.
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (v6vok)
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Since the president can't end the program on his own, what should Trump do with it?
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (v6vok)
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Since the president can't end the program on his own, what should Trump do with it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:15 AM (qE8uT)
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Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (tOcjL)
Illogical comparison to say the least.
Illogical comparison to say the least.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:15 AM (KC5Lt)
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We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (rbvCR)
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Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
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64 Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (tOcjL)
Illogical comparison to say the least.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:15 AM (KC5Lt)
Not really - every D Senator at this point has adopted the anti-Jew platform b/c it is now the default D platform...so they and Tucker have a lot in common...
Illogical comparison to say the least.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:15 AM (KC5Lt)
Not really - every D Senator at this point has adopted the anti-Jew platform b/c it is now the default D platform...so they and Tucker have a lot in common...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (tOcjL)
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"...he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.
YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response."
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ)
We're not talking about 'differing political views' here. My late wife was a Democrat. I live in an uber-liberal town and have a number of Leftist friends just slightly to the right of Vladimir Lenin. We get along, usually steering clear of arguments, keeping it civil. However, if a life-long friend reveals to me that they believe an evil Zionist cabal owns the President and that friend further admits they secretly take payola from billionaires in Qatar, then that friend would no longer be my friend.
YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response."
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ)
We're not talking about 'differing political views' here. My late wife was a Democrat. I live in an uber-liberal town and have a number of Leftist friends just slightly to the right of Vladimir Lenin. We get along, usually steering clear of arguments, keeping it civil. However, if a life-long friend reveals to me that they believe an evil Zionist cabal owns the President and that friend further admits they secretly take payola from billionaires in Qatar, then that friend would no longer be my friend.
Posted by: troyriser at September 08, 2026 11:17 AM (v1M8F)
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66 Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
And do we want the money going to illegal Somali fraud daycares in MN...or American families of 12 in Iowa?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
And do we want the money going to illegal Somali fraud daycares in MN...or American families of 12 in Iowa?
Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:17 AM (tOcjL)
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And as long as I am giving Vance some advice...deal with your Tucker Carlson problem, or you are going to lose conservative support. The fact that you have not forcefully rejected Carlson's lunacy, which include attacks on President Trump and his policies, suggests that you are trying to please everyone, including Carlson's army of Pakistani bots and America-hating leftists who gobble up Carlson's nonsense.
>>> The guys at Powerline (yes, I still read the site) have been hammering this for months.
>>> The guys at Powerline (yes, I still read the site) have been hammering this for months.
Posted by: pookysgirl has hugged her kids today at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Wt5PA)
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Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar8)
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71 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (qE8uT)
Posted by: On The Prowl at September 08, 2026 11:19 AM (Fn+3X)
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72 71 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (qE8uT)
Snort.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (qE8uT)
Snort.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:19 AM (Gqar8)
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16 I won't vote for JD Vance in the primaries if he doesn't publicly disavow Tucker Carlson and all that bastard stands for. If Vance does win the primaries, I'll vote for him in the general with the same reluctance I felt when I voted for McCain. (Palin made it easier.) We simply can't lose this coming election.
Posted by: troyriser at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (v1M8F)
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If you needed another reminder of what a P.O.S. McCain became (or always was?), his and his family's post-election treatment of Palin was a disgrace. Maybe there was a legit reason to ban her from McCain's funeral. They never gave one. He's a P.O.S., the family isn't much better.
And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.
Posted by: troyriser at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (v1M8F)
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If you needed another reminder of what a P.O.S. McCain became (or always was?), his and his family's post-election treatment of Palin was a disgrace. Maybe there was a legit reason to ban her from McCain's funeral. They never gave one. He's a P.O.S., the family isn't much better.
And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.
Posted by: Another Anon at September 08, 2026 11:19 AM (4h45B)
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Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
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No. Wrong. Its a terrific Kebab. Really Really Great. Enjoy it while you still can.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
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Trump has no response to this.
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No. Wrong. Its a terrific Kebab. Really Really Great. Enjoy it while you still can.
Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at September 08, 2026 11:19 AM (anL5R)
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Does Rubio have good friends who are out and proud Nazis funded by Qatar to spread anti-American propaganda? If so then yes I’d like an explanation from him as well.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:12 AM (U1NLK)
I don't know that he does but you don't know that he doesn't. Since people are saying that Vance is suspect merely for stating that he's friends with Carlson, not knowing isn't really an option. Political candidates should be forced to declare every person with whom they've ever interacted, from birth, and how they agree, or disagree, with their political opinions. Obviously.
Otherwise, this is just people trying to find an excuse to support one politician over another for a reason beyond "he's dreamy and from Florida".
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:12 AM (U1NLK)
I don't know that he does but you don't know that he doesn't. Since people are saying that Vance is suspect merely for stating that he's friends with Carlson, not knowing isn't really an option. Political candidates should be forced to declare every person with whom they've ever interacted, from birth, and how they agree, or disagree, with their political opinions. Obviously.
Otherwise, this is just people trying to find an excuse to support one politician over another for a reason beyond "he's dreamy and from Florida".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:19 AM (ExV1e)
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It wasn't that long ago when JD was universally hailed by our side as the best thing since boobs were invented.
But now, despite not changing his positions on anything major, and being overall a solid asset for MAGA, he's ... not.
I smell an op. JD is the guy in 2028. No doubt about it. Don't fall for any efforts to muddy his rep.
But now, despite not changing his positions on anything major, and being overall a solid asset for MAGA, he's ... not.
I smell an op. JD is the guy in 2028. No doubt about it. Don't fall for any efforts to muddy his rep.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 11:20 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you if no one's open, just throw it away at September 08, 2026 11:20 AM (ZxPkt)
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We're not talking about 'differing political views' here. My late wife was a Democrat. I live in an uber-liberal town and have a number of Leftist friends just slightly to the right of Vladimir Lenin. We get along, usually steering clear of arguments, keeping it civil. However, if a life-long friend reveals to me that they believe an evil Zionist cabal owns the President and that friend further admits they secretly take payola from billionaires in Qatar, then that friend would no longer be my friend.
Posted by: troyriser
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This!!
Tuqur isn’t just some wacky leftist with crazy ideas on the minimum wage or some shit. He’s a fucking Nazi.
Posted by: troyriser
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This!!
Tuqur isn’t just some wacky leftist with crazy ideas on the minimum wage or some shit. He’s a fucking Nazi.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (U1NLK)
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Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
Achmed's House of Wheelbarrows. Where you can get a rial deal!
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar
Achmed's House of Wheelbarrows. Where you can get a rial deal!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (1z8ji)
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Yeah, just what we need, another entitlement program to paper over generations of deliberate wage suppression. Which, if I were to be quite honest, I do not trust Vance on, or much of anyone else right now.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (OUMaO)
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Otherwise, this is just people trying to find an excuse to support one politician over another for a reason beyond "he's dreamy and from Florida".
==
Don't forget the boots.
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Don't forget the boots.
Posted by: Wickett at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (anL5R)
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82 Yeah, just what we need, another entitlement program to paper over generations of deliberate wage suppression. Which, if I were to be quite honest, I do not trust Vance on, or much of anyone else right now.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (OUMaO)
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By "another", do you mean that this is a new program or one that has existed for 30 years?
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (OUMaO)
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By "another", do you mean that this is a new program or one that has existed for 30 years?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (qE8uT)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (ExV1e)
You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)
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What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)
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JR ain't tha guy.
Posted by: GigantorX
He's never been the same since he was shot.
Posted by: Bulg
A guy can dream, can't he?
Posted by: GigantorX
He's never been the same since he was shot.
Posted by: Bulg
A guy can dream, can't he?
Posted by: Larry Hagman at September 08, 2026 11:23 AM (w9Wax)
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We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.
Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.
Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.
Posted by: Al E. at September 08, 2026 11:23 AM (vTZFs)
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/sock
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (vTZFs)
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If you needed another reminder of what a P.O.S. McCain became (or always was?), his and his family's post-election treatment of Palin was a disgrace. Maybe there was a legit reason to ban her from McCain's funeral. They never gave one. He's a P.O.S., the family isn't much better.
And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.
Posted by: Another Anon
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McCain worshipped himself--a clear narcissist to which other people's rules did not apply.
And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.
Posted by: Another Anon
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McCain worshipped himself--a clear narcissist to which other people's rules did not apply.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (E4rtv)
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I am all for the federal government promoting and defending proper families, marriage, and childbearing. Just... not with subsidies. Not only is it expenses we don't need and cannot afford, but when you subsidize something, that gives the government power over that thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (K32Fz)
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what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
Posted by: nckate at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (enNUy)
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86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)
Verily verily, money and power. For us, the power to implement those things we love. For them, the same.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)
Verily verily, money and power. For us, the power to implement those things we love. For them, the same.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (Gqar8)
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88 We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.
Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.
Posted by: Al E. at September 08, 2026 11:23 AM (vTZFs)
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El-Sayed invited Piker to campaign with him like 2 months ago.
Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.
Posted by: Al E. at September 08, 2026 11:23 AM (vTZFs)
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El-Sayed invited Piker to campaign with him like 2 months ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (qE8uT)
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You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)
May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)
May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
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By "another", do you mean that this is a new program or one that has existed for 30 years?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Is this an existing one redirected? Or is it new? My brain's too foggy to work it out. Either way it's still just a way to avoid dealing with the things that have actually put most American workers in the mess they're in: Wage suppression and currency devaluation (aka "inflation").
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Is this an existing one redirected? Or is it new? My brain's too foggy to work it out. Either way it's still just a way to avoid dealing with the things that have actually put most American workers in the mess they're in: Wage suppression and currency devaluation (aka "inflation").
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (OUMaO)
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Plus he torched an aircraft carrier
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (ZxPkt)
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95 May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (qE8uT)
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86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)
In the current CR, Congress pretty much insisted all money must be spent by the departments they sent it for...so when stuck with a problem of being forced to send money to one's friends or one's enemies, I know I'd prefer Trump to send it to friends b/c it's likely that Congress will be willing to rescind that money...
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)
In the current CR, Congress pretty much insisted all money must be spent by the departments they sent it for...so when stuck with a problem of being forced to send money to one's friends or one's enemies, I know I'd prefer Trump to send it to friends b/c it's likely that Congress will be willing to rescind that money...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (tOcjL)
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95 You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)
May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
garrett?
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)
May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
garrett?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (Gqar8)
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92 what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
Posted by: nckate at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (enNUy)
Whatever the Left says it is.
Posted by: nckate at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (enNUy)
Whatever the Left says it is.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
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Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Trump and Vance used Tucker's kid to feed false intel to Iran and Qatar via Tucker and then fired the kid.
It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.
Trump and Vance used Tucker's kid to feed false intel to Iran and Qatar via Tucker and then fired the kid.
It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (2ocoG)
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And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Everybody covets the Ring...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Everybody covets the Ring...
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (OUMaO)
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96 Is this an existing one redirected? Or is it new? My brain's too foggy to work it out. Either way it's still just a way to avoid dealing with the things that have actually put most American workers in the mess they're in: Wage suppression and currency devaluation (aka "inflation").
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (OUMaO)
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It's redirecting funds that Congress appropriated.
So, with no changes, it keeps going one direction no matter what. With changes, it goes in a new direction.
The choice without changes from Congress is the direction of the money, not the program's existence.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (OUMaO)
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It's redirecting funds that Congress appropriated.
So, with no changes, it keeps going one direction no matter what. With changes, it goes in a new direction.
The choice without changes from Congress is the direction of the money, not the program's existence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (qE8uT)
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So many politicians are being cancelled for what they say, or not saying every thing demanded because of course failure to be perfect means they are not good at all. I remember when . . .
I remember John Cena being celebrated for saying the right things, until he didn't say all the right things while promoting his show in China He was cancelled, and that was celebrated because he was a coward who was being paid to promote a brand and WWE, and thought that was more important than being ideologically correct.
And now JD Vance, who was celebrated for his patriotism, his service, his family, his background, being Trump's VP, his faith and for saying the right things, and now, he won't say all the right things to satisfy you, so he is "untrustworthy" and "perhaps wrong for the job"
I hate that attack. "untrustworthy" is up there with "inappropriate". This is such a mind-op thing to say. It is really bitch move and and a female attack on character. It is so amorphous to be impossible to defend against.
It does have the benefit of turning all political discourse into a hostage video, or a maoist struggle session due to "political deviance" so that will be fun.
I remember John Cena being celebrated for saying the right things, until he didn't say all the right things while promoting his show in China He was cancelled, and that was celebrated because he was a coward who was being paid to promote a brand and WWE, and thought that was more important than being ideologically correct.
And now JD Vance, who was celebrated for his patriotism, his service, his family, his background, being Trump's VP, his faith and for saying the right things, and now, he won't say all the right things to satisfy you, so he is "untrustworthy" and "perhaps wrong for the job"
I hate that attack. "untrustworthy" is up there with "inappropriate". This is such a mind-op thing to say. It is really bitch move and and a female attack on character. It is so amorphous to be impossible to defend against.
It does have the benefit of turning all political discourse into a hostage video, or a maoist struggle session due to "political deviance" so that will be fun.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)
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86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is reprogramming existing funds for daycare from businesses like the Learing Center and to individuals. Not an entitlement but simply paying the same stipend that otherwise would go to some childcare center.
And no, this is NOT an entitlement but subject to whatever Congress appropriates for subsidies to daycare centers.
Entitlements are subject to special budgetary rules making them very difficult to change--Social Security for example cannot even be changed via Budget Reconciliation.
And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is reprogramming existing funds for daycare from businesses like the Learing Center and to individuals. Not an entitlement but simply paying the same stipend that otherwise would go to some childcare center.
And no, this is NOT an entitlement but subject to whatever Congress appropriates for subsidies to daycare centers.
Entitlements are subject to special budgetary rules making them very difficult to change--Social Security for example cannot even be changed via Budget Reconciliation.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (E4rtv)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (VyBeY)
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May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
For starters, anyone who worked for the Bushes.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
For starters, anyone who worked for the Bushes.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)
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106 >what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
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someone who disagrees with you
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)
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No it's not, you Nazi.
106 >what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
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someone who disagrees with you
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)
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No it's not, you Nazi.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (qE8uT)
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This is all part of Trump's "give Vance enough rope" strategy. Vance is smart, and wrote a book, and is articulate, but is not necessarily a conservative. He still views government as the solution. He's also still pals with Tucker.
Posted by: Joefrombako at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (Bf5aC)
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I think its not a great sign that "conservatives" want to hand out checks so people can not work.
I understand the concept is to enable, a parent to stay home and raise kids, but its a short hop to universal basic income from there. The country spends too much money on too much stupid crap as it is.
The elites already think they can run the country with AI and robots and don't need a working class anymore. Once they turn 70% of the population into liabilities, then the program will be to reduce those liabilities. One way or another.
I understand the concept is to enable, a parent to stay home and raise kids, but its a short hop to universal basic income from there. The country spends too much money on too much stupid crap as it is.
The elites already think they can run the country with AI and robots and don't need a working class anymore. Once they turn 70% of the population into liabilities, then the program will be to reduce those liabilities. One way or another.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (anL5R)
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Vance and Tuqur has the same vibe as Obama being shocked that his pastor believed things he said every Sunday for 20 years.
It was bullshit then. It’s bullshit now.
It was bullshit then. It’s bullshit now.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (U1NLK)
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The choice without changes from Congress is the direction of the money, not the program's existence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO)
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Sanity returned to the University of Florida Saturday when the Gators took on the Florida Atlantic Owls at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Florida.
ESPN reported that this included the popular “gator bait” chant, in which fans would extend their arms in front of them and clap their hands together like an alligator seizing its prey.
... this seems a bit on the silly side, but RACIST ? NO.
Are all silly people racist ?
Would explain the Left's hatred of comedy and comedians.
ESPN reported that this included the popular “gator bait” chant, in which fans would extend their arms in front of them and clap their hands together like an alligator seizing its prey.
... this seems a bit on the silly side, but RACIST ? NO.
Are all silly people racist ?
Would explain the Left's hatred of comedy and comedians.
Posted by: SMOD at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (RHGPo)
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New Mexico Democrats push back over Trump posts about renaming the state ‘New America’
Posted by: SMOD at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (RHGPo)
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Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
That puts a different spin on it --if it ends there, which seems to never happen.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)
It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.
I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
That puts a different spin on it --if it ends there, which seems to never happen.
Posted by: LASue at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (lCppi)
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Here. If you want a ton of immigrant kids living high on the hog in comparison to their shitholes, have a program like this.
The Canada Child Benefit (CCB) provides a maximum annual benefit of $7,997 per child for families with children under 18, depending on family income and the number of children. Payments are made monthly and are tax-free
Holy Crap. Star Trek lego set on 'The Price is Right.' $640.
AMERICAN DOLLARS!
Some lady won a Star Trek Cruise. If you can't score on a Star Trek cruise....
The Canada Child Benefit (CCB) provides a maximum annual benefit of $7,997 per child for families with children under 18, depending on family income and the number of children. Payments are made monthly and are tax-free
Holy Crap. Star Trek lego set on 'The Price is Right.' $640.
AMERICAN DOLLARS!
Some lady won a Star Trek Cruise. If you can't score on a Star Trek cruise....
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (Sco7b)
Posted by: one hour sober at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (J4Dwc)
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>>> He needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally. Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)
There have been rumors around JD for a long time that he is a Manchurian candidate. May be 2nd to Trump, but that his REAL handlers, Palpatine style, are working from the shadows. That if he became POTUS, he would cave to them and be as feckless as any of the other turncoat RINOS.
Playing footsies with Tucker doesn't help quell those rumors for me. But I also remember Reagan's commandment not to speak ill of another Republican, and maybe that's where JD is coming from. But Tucker isn't a republican, JD! He's a shill willing to sell his soul. Huge difference.
JD says all the right things very eloquently, and he is the Democrat's wet dream of a candidate that they wish they had, and are trying to find in degenerate lobster farmers. (Raised in poverty and worked hard, married to a beautiful successful minority woman, picture perfect family.) Love him and Marco, but both of them have at times been RINO adjacent. Rubio was, before getting a spine in Trump's cabinet. Hope they are both the real deal.
There have been rumors around JD for a long time that he is a Manchurian candidate. May be 2nd to Trump, but that his REAL handlers, Palpatine style, are working from the shadows. That if he became POTUS, he would cave to them and be as feckless as any of the other turncoat RINOS.
Playing footsies with Tucker doesn't help quell those rumors for me. But I also remember Reagan's commandment not to speak ill of another Republican, and maybe that's where JD is coming from. But Tucker isn't a republican, JD! He's a shill willing to sell his soul. Huge difference.
JD says all the right things very eloquently, and he is the Democrat's wet dream of a candidate that they wish they had, and are trying to find in degenerate lobster farmers. (Raised in poverty and worked hard, married to a beautiful successful minority woman, picture perfect family.) Love him and Marco, but both of them have at times been RINO adjacent. Rubio was, before getting a spine in Trump's cabinet. Hope they are both the real deal.
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (Eng1Z)
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And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government.
AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.
AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)
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May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
garrett?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (Gqar
Which bathhouses garrett chooses to frequent are his own business.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)
garrett?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (Gqar
Which bathhouses garrett chooses to frequent are his own business.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (ExV1e)
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Never forget when Nancy Pelosi revealed the Democrat Party's entire playbook:
‘The Wrap Up Smear’
“You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest and then you merchandise it and then you write it and they’ll say, see, it’s reported in the press that this, this, this and this, so they have that validation that the press reported the smear and then it’s called a wrap-up smear.
Now I am going to merchandise the press’ report on the smear that we made. It’s a tactic”
‘The Wrap Up Smear’
“You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest and then you merchandise it and then you write it and they’ll say, see, it’s reported in the press that this, this, this and this, so they have that validation that the press reported the smear and then it’s called a wrap-up smear.
Now I am going to merchandise the press’ report on the smear that we made. It’s a tactic”
Posted by: SMOD at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
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Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO)
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Talk to your Congresscritter!
The federal leviathon has only grown for a century. Until the 80s, it was almost all by statute, and even statutory changes and additions kept going until about the middle of Obama's presidency (the ACA was the last major actual policy change passed by Congress, everything else has been arguments over levels of funding, though there were some policy changes in the OBBB, but that wasn't the overall point of it).
To undo it, requires a lot of...statutory language. From Congress.
Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO)
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Talk to your Congresscritter!
The federal leviathon has only grown for a century. Until the 80s, it was almost all by statute, and even statutory changes and additions kept going until about the middle of Obama's presidency (the ACA was the last major actual policy change passed by Congress, everything else has been arguments over levels of funding, though there were some policy changes in the OBBB, but that wasn't the overall point of it).
To undo it, requires a lot of...statutory language. From Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (qE8uT)
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Get RID of these damn pop up adds !!
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (zqeQL)
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9/10 shows Tuqur does is related in some way to how Jews run the world . If that’s not a Nazi then I don’t know what is.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (U1NLK)
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I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar
That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar
That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew8)
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Some lady won a Star Trek Cruise. If you can't score on a Star Trek cruise....
"The odds are good but the goods are odd."
"The odds are good but the goods are odd."
Posted by: Oddbob at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (vTZFs)
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Love him and Marco, but both of them have at times been RINO adjacent. Rubio was, before getting a spine in Trump's cabinet. Hope they are both the real deal.
I'm old enough to remember when Ace joked about pawing through Rubio's garbage, and then declared Rubio *is* garbage.
I'm old enough to remember when Ace joked about pawing through Rubio's garbage, and then declared Rubio *is* garbage.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (2ocoG)
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121 AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)
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If Obama hadn't stolen 2012 and Romney accepted it with a whimper, we might have had an opportunity to try the weak-wonk approach to dealing with the debt.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)
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If Obama hadn't stolen 2012 and Romney accepted it with a whimper, we might have had an opportunity to try the weak-wonk approach to dealing with the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (qE8uT)
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127 I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar
That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew
The power of prayer will kick in at some point for me.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar
That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew
The power of prayer will kick in at some point for me.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (Gqar8)
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Trump and Vance used Tucker's kid to feed false intel to Iran and Qatar via Tucker and then fired the kid.
It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Some of the issue is positioning for post Midterms--aka the invisible primary for Presidential candidates. Cruz for example came out with a biography of Clarence Thomas just now. Activists are lining up for Team Vance versus Team whoever, donors are trying to get their hooks into prospective candidates, fake and gay no hopers are looking to be paid to be designated vote splitters and money sinks.
And the easiest thing to criticize as a sidewalk supervisor is our awful political process. And that awful process is directly related to the US being a hegemon and wealthy.
It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Some of the issue is positioning for post Midterms--aka the invisible primary for Presidential candidates. Cruz for example came out with a biography of Clarence Thomas just now. Activists are lining up for Team Vance versus Team whoever, donors are trying to get their hooks into prospective candidates, fake and gay no hopers are looking to be paid to be designated vote splitters and money sinks.
And the easiest thing to criticize as a sidewalk supervisor is our awful political process. And that awful process is directly related to the US being a hegemon and wealthy.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (E4rtv)
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Most people want to cut govt spending in the abstract. But everyone has their pet govt cheese they don’t want cut. Which is why no politician will ever cut spending. It’s electoral suicide no matter which side of the aisle they’re on.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:32 AM (U1NLK)
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Yeah, I don't like the "disavow person that you know because what they've said is unpopular," but on the other hand, Tuq'r has gone off the deep end. So I'm not as up in arms as others because I can see both sides, but I also remember when Rush would say something and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always playing Tchaikovsky at September 08, 2026 11:32 AM (Wt5PA)
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For starters, anyone who worked for the Bushes.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)
I don't recall that. I object to people who seem to continue working for the Bushes - in a political capacity. If I have wronged someone otherwise, I retract it fully.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)
I don't recall that. I object to people who seem to continue working for the Bushes - in a political capacity. If I have wronged someone otherwise, I retract it fully.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
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It is reprogramming existing funds for daycare from businesses like the Learing Center and to individuals. Not an entitlement but simply paying the same stipend that otherwise would go to some childcare center.
We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (cGjQu)
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In the old days barrels of rotgut whiskey bought the votes. Fast forward and it was Obama phones. Now, though, it is buying votes through insane ideas and flights from reality for the Left.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (Gqar8)
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136 We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.
Until then, what should the administration do?
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.
Until then, what should the administration do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (qE8uT)
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130 121 AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.
Posted by: Ian S.
I think it is more to the point that common wisdom of the crowds refuses to have key safety net items like Medicare and Social Security removed when it is apparent that the ruling class, corporate government contractors, and their pet immigrants are robbing this country blind. If Musk was correct, or even Bessent, approximately 800 billion to 1.5 trillion of the current budget is fraud, waste, and abuse of the spending process. And that leaves off state and local government fraud waste and abuse which is likely in the hundreds of billions of dollars range.
The ruling class is going to have to take a hit first by fraud, waste, and abuse like ngos, institutes, illegals, criminals, and other such bullshit first.
Posted by: Ian S.
I think it is more to the point that common wisdom of the crowds refuses to have key safety net items like Medicare and Social Security removed when it is apparent that the ruling class, corporate government contractors, and their pet immigrants are robbing this country blind. If Musk was correct, or even Bessent, approximately 800 billion to 1.5 trillion of the current budget is fraud, waste, and abuse of the spending process. And that leaves off state and local government fraud waste and abuse which is likely in the hundreds of billions of dollars range.
The ruling class is going to have to take a hit first by fraud, waste, and abuse like ngos, institutes, illegals, criminals, and other such bullshit first.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 11:35 AM (E4rtv)
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139 136 We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.
Until then, what should the administration do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (qE8uT)
Expose Congress for their villainy, mostly.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.
Until then, what should the administration do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (qE8uT)
Expose Congress for their villainy, mostly.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:35 AM (Gqar8)
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J.D. looks like a bigger & bigger sucker as time goes on, imho.
I would say this is not a 'concept' to release before mid-terms elections. He/they've played right into the D's hands.
Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette, " Subsidies eyed for at-home parents. Existing benefit target of change.
September 7, 2026
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Carlson's son used to work for J.D. He's got his own consulting firm now. Where his two also Democrat sisters are, who knows?
Just 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Carlson and his 'conservative' brother - also Buckley - commiserated about backing Trump.
I would say this is not a 'concept' to release before mid-terms elections. He/they've played right into the D's hands.
Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette, " Subsidies eyed for at-home parents. Existing benefit target of change.
September 7, 2026
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Carlson's son used to work for J.D. He's got his own consulting firm now. Where his two also Democrat sisters are, who knows?
Just 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Carlson and his 'conservative' brother - also Buckley - commiserated about backing Trump.
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
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someone who disagrees with you
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)
I remember when "antisemite" was used for people who discriminated against jews instead of someone it was OK to discriminate against. Same with Nazi.
But, no one remembers the "10 steps to genocide" even though we were supposed to be taught it in school
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)
I remember when "antisemite" was used for people who discriminated against jews instead of someone it was OK to discriminate against. Same with Nazi.
But, no one remembers the "10 steps to genocide" even though we were supposed to be taught it in school
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (rbvCR)
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Until then, what should the administration do?
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (cGjQu)
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Problem with this program is that like very other program it will grow. Giving stay at home parents some tax relief, sure sounds good in theory.
But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.
But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (U1NLK)
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145 Until then, what should the administration do?
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
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So, until Congress does something with the appropriations levels while this discussion is happening, what should the administration do with the appropriations set out to be paid out by law?
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
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So, until Congress does something with the appropriations levels while this discussion is happening, what should the administration do with the appropriations set out to be paid out by law?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:37 AM (qE8uT)
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147 Problem with this program is that like very other program it will grow. Giving stay at home parents some tax relief, sure sounds good in theory.
But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (U1NLK)
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This program has existed for 30 years.
But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (U1NLK)
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This program has existed for 30 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:37 AM (qE8uT)
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and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him."
Indeed. We're sadly sliding back to the "all Republicans must..." stage.
Here, let's elect another bush.
Indeed. We're sadly sliding back to the "all Republicans must..." stage.
Here, let's elect another bush.
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:38 AM (cGjQu)
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pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
The money is required, by law, to be spent in roughly the manner that it's being spent. You're suggesting that the President act in a dictatorial manner because you like/trust Trump but he won't always be President.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)
The money is required, by law, to be spent in roughly the manner that it's being spent. You're suggesting that the President act in a dictatorial manner because you like/trust Trump but he won't always be President.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:39 AM (ExV1e)
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Benjamin Franklin once said that the surest way to eliminate poverty is to not let the poor grow too comfortable. Ben was right most every time.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 08, 2026 11:39 AM (gm9Sb)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
You're starting from the position of "we shouldn't be spending this money in the first place!" and you're right.
You're also overlooking that the Executive Branch CAN'T stop spending this money. They can only shift it from lefty recipients to righty recipients. Which they're doing.
You're starting from the position of "we shouldn't be spending this money in the first place!" and you're right.
You're also overlooking that the Executive Branch CAN'T stop spending this money. They can only shift it from lefty recipients to righty recipients. Which they're doing.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:39 AM (PGK1w)
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Program has been around but not allowing stay at parents to claim the credit. If this is enacted I’ll bet my bottom dollar within a year or two parents will be expanded to more family members. It will grow in score and size and funding to accommodate it.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:40 AM (U1NLK)
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Until then, what should the administration do?
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
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The money is required, by law, to be spent in roughly the manner that it's being spent.
Congress cannot tell the executive branch how to spend the money in a program, only that the program must exist and what it does. Its a separation of powers issue. That's why the president is slashing departments like the DOE, because the law created the department and gave it goals and guidelines, but cannot tell the executive exactly how to run it or how many employees etc.
Congress cannot tell the executive branch how to spend the money in a program, only that the program must exist and what it does. Its a separation of powers issue. That's why the president is slashing departments like the DOE, because the law created the department and gave it goals and guidelines, but cannot tell the executive exactly how to run it or how many employees etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (K32Fz)
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Paying debts is racist. Probably.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (U1NLK)
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pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)
It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:42 AM (PGK1w)
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:42 AM (cGjQu)
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
But that was when the national debt was tree fiddy.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
But that was when the national debt was tree fiddy.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:43 AM (g8Ew8)
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It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress."
Teh Won laughs...
Teh Won laughs...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:43 AM (cGjQu)
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>>> I'm old enough to remember when Ace joked about pawing through Rubio's garbage, and then declared Rubio *is* garbage. Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (2ocoG)
Me too! Good times.
Going deep. Out... Agree with you, I'm struggling with the ads on my iphone. It's pretty much unreadable at this point. And no, switching to Android and nuking my iphone from orbit is not an option.
Me too! Good times.
Going deep. Out... Agree with you, I'm struggling with the ads on my iphone. It's pretty much unreadable at this point. And no, switching to Android and nuking my iphone from orbit is not an option.
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 11:44 AM (Eng1Z)
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100% what you wrote.
From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.
From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.
Posted by: Sam at September 08, 2026 11:44 AM (7jMef)
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You can give tax breaks for families, reduce onerous regulations and costs for families, etc. That's how you help families and increase having kids. Make it less expensive and more attractive. The most powerful tool that the government has to encourage things is to lift the boot off their necks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:45 AM (K32Fz)
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It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress."
Teh Won laughs...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:43 AM (cGjQu)
That's actually the point. That's precisely the point.
Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?
Teh Won laughs...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:43 AM (cGjQu)
That's actually the point. That's precisely the point.
Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:45 AM (PGK1w)
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Didn’t Congress also write some laws about illegal aliens not being allowed into the country? Biden laughed at those laws too.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (U1NLK)
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This is sort of my fear when you lean heavily into populism. It starts going off the rails and just becomes Democrat policies.
Posted by: Sharpie at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (hRrXl)
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Geez, I stop by for a glance and see that if JD or Rubio are out picks for 2028 then its dems all the way... just stop it all of you. There is never a perfect candidate - geez take a breather and get ahold of yourselves.
Heck, just compare what your thoughts were about Trump back in 2016. Good grief. I'm off to lunch.
Heck, just compare what your thoughts were about Trump back in 2016. Good grief. I'm off to lunch.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (VkY89)
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50% of tax filers pay $0 federal income tax. This is just more welfare and not a tax cut.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (U1NLK)
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Didn’t Congress also write some laws about illegal aliens not being allowed into the country? Biden laughed at those laws too.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (U1NLK)
I want to make sure I'm on the same page going forward.
Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (U1NLK)
I want to make sure I'm on the same page going forward.
Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (PGK1w)
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From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.
Posted by: Sam
It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.
Posted by: Sam
It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO)
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This is sort of my fear when you lean heavily into populism.
Right, populism has its drawbacks. Not what the partisan leaders scream but yeah there are real problems
Right, populism has its drawbacks. Not what the partisan leaders scream but yeah there are real problems
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (K32Fz)
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On the other hand, either "If you want more of something subsidize it" is true or it isn't.
if congress won't stop spending the money, using it to subsidize something you want - i.e. a stay-at-home parent for small children instead of day care - is... the least worst option.
if congress won't stop spending the money, using it to subsidize something you want - i.e. a stay-at-home parent for small children instead of day care - is... the least worst option.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (vJrRc)
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Mint about 50 Trillion dollar coins, well actually 150 Trillion dollar coins for unfunded liabilities, and you're good.
CNN - Amazon plane crash
FoxNews- women kicked out of game for 'XX - XY' shirts
MSNow - dismissed transgender army seargent speaks out - FINALLY...lol
CBC - I'm guessing tariffs and President Trump is evil personified.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Mint about 50 Trillion dollar coins, well actually 150 Trillion dollar coins for unfunded liabilities, and you're good.
CNN - Amazon plane crash
FoxNews- women kicked out of game for 'XX - XY' shirts
MSNow - dismissed transgender army seargent speaks out - FINALLY...lol
CBC - I'm guessing tariffs and President Trump is evil personified.
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (Sco7b)
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (77rzZ)
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Agree that paying homeschooling families a "living wage" will get abused, and the money will NOT go the families it should. I think child tax credits for stay at home parents would ensure the parents are productive.
That being said, I do feel for the homeschooling families I know who could use the extra money. It must be galling to pay their property taxes, and see it get utterly squandered by the public schools, which is why they are teaching at home in the first place!
That being said, I do feel for the homeschooling families I know who could use the extra money. It must be galling to pay their property taxes, and see it get utterly squandered by the public schools, which is why they are teaching at home in the first place!
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (Eng1Z)
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Geez, I stop by for a glance and see that if JD or Rubio are out picks for 2028 then its dems all the way
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Who said anything of the sort?
It’s OK to have an internal debate on who is the better nominee. Vance isn’t a prince and he shouldn’t be crowned as next in line just because.
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Who said anything of the sort?
It’s OK to have an internal debate on who is the better nominee. Vance isn’t a prince and he shouldn’t be crowned as next in line just because.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (U1NLK)
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It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO)
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I mean...yeah.
Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.
Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.
"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.
Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO)
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I mean...yeah.
Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.
Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.
"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.
Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
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The world is chock full of problems. Politicians think they have to have a solution to those problems. It leads to spending, and bureaucracy and sometimes geopolitical conflict. World's broken and no politician or party going to fix it. We should try to live within our means and stop trying to turn the Country into free Disneyland.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:50 AM (anL5R)
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being said, I do feel for the homeschooling families I know who could use the extra money. It must be galling to pay their property taxes, and see it get utterly squandered by the public schools, which is why they are teaching at home in the first place!
Posted by: LizLem
That’s something that should be addressed at the state or county level. Property tax reform is getting traction, this should be part of it.
Posted by: LizLem
That’s something that should be addressed at the state or county level. Property tax reform is getting traction, this should be part of it.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:50 AM (U1NLK)
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Also Vance looks like he wears eyeliner
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:50 AM (ZxPkt)
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Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
If it ever did, you'd definitely see net-negative population growth at the beginning...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
If it ever did, you'd definitely see net-negative population growth at the beginning...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:50 AM (PGK1w)
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It's not easy trying to take care of the world.
Posted by: Case at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (noln+)
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It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired
Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running...
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired
Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running...
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (vJrRc)
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I want to make sure I'm on the same page going forward.
Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (PGK1w)
Following the law, of course. However, I will still probably drive 80mph in a 75mph speed zone.
Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (PGK1w)
Following the law, of course. However, I will still probably drive 80mph in a 75mph speed zone.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)
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Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now
Which is cultural suicide. You need to have as many kids as you possibly can manage, raise them outside state control, and teach them to do the same.
Imagine if every conservative in the 1980s had 5-8 kids each, home schooled them, and taught them to do the same? We'd lose some to the left, but the bulk would be more conservative. By now the population would be 5:1 right vs left.
Which is cultural suicide. You need to have as many kids as you possibly can manage, raise them outside state control, and teach them to do the same.
Imagine if every conservative in the 1980s had 5-8 kids each, home schooled them, and taught them to do the same? We'd lose some to the left, but the bulk would be more conservative. By now the population would be 5:1 right vs left.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (K32Fz)
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4 Yeah, I don't like the "disavow person that you know because what they've said is unpopular," but on the other hand, Tuq'r has gone off the deep end. So I'm not as up in arms as others because I can see both sides, but I also remember when Rush would say something and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always playing Tchaikovsky at September 08, 2026 11:32 AM (Wt5PA)
Tucker and Candace are doing the Steve Bannon shtick: veiled references to deep sources, dark information he can't reveal, bitch comments about moral qualities that never get defined, and just outright accusations that are never followed up on. It is a shame, too, because although Tucker is about as interesting politically as Joe Rogan, he could interview people very well, and for a while he could get non-loons to talk with him.
Levin and Beck in contrast are tools, but at least they are clearly doing it for money. Beck needs to support his museums and whims, and Levin apparently has a high burn rate and maintenance cost for his bunker.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always playing Tchaikovsky at September 08, 2026 11:32 AM (Wt5PA)
Tucker and Candace are doing the Steve Bannon shtick: veiled references to deep sources, dark information he can't reveal, bitch comments about moral qualities that never get defined, and just outright accusations that are never followed up on. It is a shame, too, because although Tucker is about as interesting politically as Joe Rogan, he could interview people very well, and for a while he could get non-loons to talk with him.
Levin and Beck in contrast are tools, but at least they are clearly doing it for money. Beck needs to support his museums and whims, and Levin apparently has a high burn rate and maintenance cost for his bunker.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (rbvCR)
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A huge game in my region is home healthcare. Grandma or Grandpa or whoever qualify for some in home aid. They - for example - go grocery shopping and half the family - signed up as aides - run over and carry groceries in, etc. Then they may or may not hangout.
Doesn't matter. All get at least $15 an hour clear, often for not even showing up. Partying money. They call in local talk radio programs and laugh about the absurdity of several government subsidized programs, especially this.
Doesn't matter. All get at least $15 an hour clear, often for not even showing up. Partying money. They call in local talk radio programs and laugh about the absurdity of several government subsidized programs, especially this.
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:52 AM (NFX2v)
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Also, our baby bust isn't really "our" baby bust.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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189 Also, our baby bust isn't really "our" baby bust.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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American conservatives seem to be the only group of whites who actually believe in the future, if you go by birthrates.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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American conservatives seem to be the only group of whites who actually believe in the future, if you go by birthrates.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (qE8uT)
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I mean...yeah.
Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.
Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.
"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.
Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?
Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.
Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.
"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.
Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (OUMaO)
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188 What museums does Beck have?
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (77rzZ)
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Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running
I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (K32Fz)
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Final showcase - a signed William Shatner communicator.
Priceless?
CBC - US may impose more tariffs today.
Priceless?
CBC - US may impose more tariffs today.
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 11:54 AM (Sco7b)
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I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (OUMaO)
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"Not enough! Tell those that survived that they're evil because of their skin color! And that the world is ending no matter what we do! And that kids are a burden that prevent you from living your best life! And that those that do have kids were born wrong and need to have their genitals removed!"
-the past 30 years' messaging on the left
I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (OUMaO)
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"Not enough! Tell those that survived that they're evil because of their skin color! And that the world is ending no matter what we do! And that kids are a burden that prevent you from living your best life! And that those that do have kids were born wrong and need to have their genitals removed!"
-the past 30 years' messaging on the left
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:54 AM (qE8uT)
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>>> Also Vance looks like he wears eyeliner
Some guys have naturally thick lashes. Of all the things a politician might do to boost his look (Like Desantis' platform cowboy boots, or Trump's spray tan), guyliner is a weird flex.
Some guys have naturally thick lashes. Of all the things a politician might do to boost his look (Like Desantis' platform cowboy boots, or Trump's spray tan), guyliner is a weird flex.
Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (Eng1Z)
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Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running...
Posted by: FeatherBlade
Not like the other side's coalition doesn't include far more radical thoughts in that vein, but never mind that for now...
Posted by: FeatherBlade
Not like the other side's coalition doesn't include far more radical thoughts in that vein, but never mind that for now...
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (OUMaO)
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I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?
"As long as you keep sending your kids to our schools and drown them in our media, we don't need to have kids of our own!"
--leftists
"As long as you keep sending your kids to our schools and drown them in our media, we don't need to have kids of our own!"
--leftists
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (K32Fz)
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Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running
I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.
I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (77rzZ)
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Where did Jackson get the money?
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Where did Jackson get the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (rbvCR)
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A little ironic, since one of the biggest bits of federal fraud recently uncovered was because they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.
Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2026 11:56 AM (kU0PQ)
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My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Mrs B's sister is a real piece of work in the best of time. Insufferable really. Covid drove her off the cliff and she gave Mrs B a raft of shit over all the hysterical overreactions. They didn't speak for about four years.
She recently called to visit with Mrs B. She never apologized really, but Mrs B took it as sign of admission she was a little wrong. Which is huge considering it's her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
Mrs B's sister is a real piece of work in the best of time. Insufferable really. Covid drove her off the cliff and she gave Mrs B a raft of shit over all the hysterical overreactions. They didn't speak for about four years.
She recently called to visit with Mrs B. She never apologized really, but Mrs B took it as sign of admission she was a little wrong. Which is huge considering it's her.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at September 08, 2026 11:56 AM (l26NL)
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Final showcase - a signed William Shatner communicator.
Priceless?
Used alien panties from Kirk's quarters.
Priceless?
Used alien panties from Kirk's quarters.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 11:56 AM (mqudn)
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Where did Jackson get the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (rbvCR)
Tariffs, selling federal land, and taxing alcohol and tobacco.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)
Where did Jackson get the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (rbvCR)
Tariffs, selling federal land, and taxing alcohol and tobacco.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:57 AM (PGK1w)
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I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
It has been suggested that the only real choice is who eventually puts an end to women's rights, Islam or some sort of neo-alt-West thing. I hope that isn't the case, but there are times I wonder.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
It has been suggested that the only real choice is who eventually puts an end to women's rights, Islam or some sort of neo-alt-West thing. I hope that isn't the case, but there are times I wonder.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:57 AM (OUMaO)
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204 Tariffs, selling federal land, and taxing alcohol and tobacco.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:57 AM (PGK1w)
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"It's fine when OUR guy does it!"
-the remnants of the Whiskey Rebellion, probably
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:57 AM (PGK1w)
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"It's fine when OUR guy does it!"
-the remnants of the Whiskey Rebellion, probably
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (qE8uT)
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My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.
And she probably didn't even mean it but yeah, I get it.
I don't want to take away the vote from women, I mean there are a host of guys I don't want to vote but that's part of the cost of democratic elections. But I get it.
And she probably didn't even mean it but yeah, I get it.
I don't want to take away the vote from women, I mean there are a host of guys I don't want to vote but that's part of the cost of democratic elections. But I get it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (K32Fz)
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JD can decide who he wants to be friends with.
Why try to bully him into doing with YOU think he should do. Fuck that.
I make my own friends. And I don’t have to justify TO ANYONE why they are my friend.
Get off your high horse and mind your own damn business.
Why try to bully him into doing with YOU think he should do. Fuck that.
I make my own friends. And I don’t have to justify TO ANYONE why they are my friend.
Get off your high horse and mind your own damn business.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (W2Pud)
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Very disappointed when I saw this idea floated. Argue against socialism by creating more socialism. 🙄
And can you imagine the number of somali kids that every somali mom will claim.
And can you imagine the number of somali kids that every somali mom will claim.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (n5tGW)
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If I were 20 years younger right now I’d absolutely have no kids. The future for white people in America isn’t too bright. I think my kids will do OK-is as we are still in the transition phase. But 40-50 years from now, when whites a small minority…I don’t see good times ahead.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (U1NLK)
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Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?"
We just had two...
We just had two...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (cGjQu)
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A little ironic, since one of the biggest bits of federal fraud recently uncovered was because they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.
Posted by: GWB
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started. On. This. Subject.
Posted by: GWB
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started. On. This. Subject.
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (OUMaO)
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182 Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
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We don't need to import labor. We have a labor pool in waiting all we have to do is stop paying them to not work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
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We don't need to import labor. We have a labor pool in waiting all we have to do is stop paying them to not work.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (6T7Go)
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And she probably didn't even mean it but yeah, I get it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
You don't know my wife.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
You don't know my wife.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (77rzZ)
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From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.
Posted by: Sam at September 08, 2026 11:44 AM (7jMef)
1) and will preferring one section of society over another garner more votes?
2) will having a stay at home parent lead to more or less conservative families?
3) what seems to be important now, the next couple of elections, or standing on our rock ribbed principles and telling kids starting a family who can barely pay the rent that they won't get help if they stop paying daycare and the wife stays at home and they should be happy that the conservative world is focusing on their children's eventual economic future should Congress get around to it and they can shut up now?
Posted by: Sam at September 08, 2026 11:44 AM (7jMef)
1) and will preferring one section of society over another garner more votes?
2) will having a stay at home parent lead to more or less conservative families?
3) what seems to be important now, the next couple of elections, or standing on our rock ribbed principles and telling kids starting a family who can barely pay the rent that they won't get help if they stop paying daycare and the wife stays at home and they should be happy that the conservative world is focusing on their children's eventual economic future should Congress get around to it and they can shut up now?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (rbvCR)
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Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?"
We just had two...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (cGjQu)
And condemned them up one side and down the other.
Do you now advocate for Trump doing the exact same thing because it's in service to a goal you support?
We just had two...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (cGjQu)
And condemned them up one side and down the other.
Do you now advocate for Trump doing the exact same thing because it's in service to a goal you support?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (PGK1w)
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Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (vJrRc)
It's so ridiculous- this whole " Let's repeal votes for women."" I understand many women vote stupidly. So do many men. Talking voting away from women will never happen unless, perhaps, we become a Muslim theocracy - in which case we have much bigger problems than just womens votes being taken away.
It's so ridiculous- this whole " Let's repeal votes for women."" I understand many women vote stupidly. So do many men. Talking voting away from women will never happen unless, perhaps, we become a Muslim theocracy - in which case we have much bigger problems than just womens votes being taken away.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (P5Y6m)
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Paying debts is racist. Probably.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
Beans and rice. Rice and beans.
Paying debts is racist. Probably.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
Beans and rice. Rice and beans.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (Cqx++)
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they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.
Which on its face is a good thing, but again these programs are never about what they claim to be, they're a way for grifters to open the spigot. Its yet another reason in so many for government to not hand out other people's money, even in a very positive cause.
Which on its face is a good thing, but again these programs are never about what they claim to be, they're a way for grifters to open the spigot. Its yet another reason in so many for government to not hand out other people's money, even in a very positive cause.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (K32Fz)
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