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Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 03, 2026 04:00 PM (CWTWj) 2
i noodled
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 03, 2026 04:02 PM (CWTWj) 3
There is no doubt about one thing.. Three children were murdered by their Mother...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:02 PM (+gK6I) 4
Only one juror wants to convict!? Ummmm
Posted by: Ann at September 03, 2026 04:03 PM (SHHm+) 5
Sad. All of it.
Posted by: MkY at September 03, 2026 04:03 PM (q6tQZ) 6
ugh I'm sick to my stomach
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (j+aD2) 7
Beyond a reasonable doubt she killed her kids. The defense has to prove the insanity plea that she didn't know right from wrong. She sent her husband away because she knew he would stop her, which indicates she knew it was wrong. She's guilt. Convict her.
Posted by: JJ at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (2Q9Fp) 8
We do not know which way the holdout is. The def atty is assuming. It couple very easily be one saying they did meet your example of unreasonable doubt for not guilty.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (YZ0Fo) 9
4 Only one juror wants to convict!? Ummmm
Posted by: Ann at September 03, 2026 04:03 PM (SHHm+) Let's hope for a mis -trial then.. Maybe they can get a rational jury next time Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (+gK6I) 10
I thought the lawyers weren't supposed to know the status of the deliberation by each juror?
Posted by: beckster at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (kX27y) 11
8 Didn't meet*.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (YZ0Fo) 12
So . . . this means we can murder at will, so long as we claim to be mentally impaired?
Awesome! This next couple years is gonna be *lit*. Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (8Q86n) 13
No one except the jurors knows what this means -- what the 11 want and what the 1 wants. There's my brilliant analysis. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (mmrXZ) 14
And the jury has been dismissed for the day after getting spanked by the judge.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (N39Ws) 15
I don't buy the meds thing. She planned the murder of her children. It was not a spur of the moment thing. Then jumping out a window, lol. She needs to burn in hell. She is evil. Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (/QHx4) 16
I thought the lawyers weren't supposed to know the status of the deliberation by each juror?
Posted by: beckster at They don't. The note said 1 juror wasn't listening to the rules on reasonable doubt. That is all it said. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (YZ0Fo) 17
thank god for tiktok or there would be no one to explain how the husband did it
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (CWTWj) 18
She looks like a whippet dog and a harpy had a baby, and she got none of the whippet looks.
Posted by: H at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (H1yGV) 19
Thank you Blonde Morticia!
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:06 PM (YZ0Fo) 20
10 I thought the lawyers weren't supposed to know the status of the deliberation by each juror?
Posted by: beckster at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM (kX27y) As I understand it, the jury foreman wrote a note to the judge stating that it was one member of the jury who refuses to follow the law. Then the defense attorney admitted in open court that it was one juror, and that they should be removed. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:06 PM (N39Ws) 21
Mitt Romney 5 minutes ago Lindsay Clancy represents the very best of this nation. The cruelty of the prosecutors must not stand. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (1wjle) 22
Katy bar the door if this scrunt walks. Many kids are in danger.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (zWqu+) 23
I thought the lawyers weren't supposed to know the status of the deliberation by each juror? Posted by: beckster =============== The jury sent a note to the judge and I theeeenk that's where they said there's one person who won't abide by the judge's instructions to apply the law re reasonable doubt. They haven't said who it is. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (mmrXZ) 24
How would this lawyer know what's going on in the jury room?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (2UnvF) 25
Mistrial I think is the best option at this point.
Though it will Dawn Light another chance to doxx a jury. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (k3nnj) 26
17 thank god for tiktok or there would be no one to explain how the husband did it
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (CWTWj) Only thing the husband is guilty of is not finishing the job that Lindsay tried to do. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (N39Ws) Posted by: man at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (XuXeR) 28
Lindsey Clancy has also asked the bailiff to run an errand to give her time to talk to the juror.
Posted by: Wally at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (avzFa) 29
The defense attorney may have just been saved by the judge of convicting his own client.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (YZ0Fo) 30
If this woman had been a Bank Of America VP the left would have been calling for her immolation.
Posted by: fd at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (MWfyi) 31
>>>No one except the jurors knows what this means -- what the 11 want and what the 1 wants.
I'm more sure now, it's 11 to acquit and one to convict, the defense wants to get the one "convict" vote off the jury so he can get a 12-0 acquittal. If the lone juror stays on the jury and does not flip, it goes to a new trial, tho the prosecution will just strike a deal. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (1wjle) 32
How delightfully horrid would it be if the "holdout" is just a straight up fucking lunatic and they can't proceed with releasing Murder Mommy back in to the wild because Juror Number Fun is too busy pressing her bare ass on the window and shouting that she'll Literally die if she doesn't get more Fun Dip.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (Ot/FD) 33
I can’t accept that 11 sane people would find that Clancy was not guilty . She pre-planned the murders. Was in such a lucid state she was able to calmly call an audible to her plan to complete her task of murdering her kids.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (KC5Lt) 34
Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (JrHfD) Posted by: Lizzy at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (4KUe5) Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (OUMaO) 37
So... does this mean that 11 jurors are voting to acquit and one lone juror is insisting on a conviction? And the other jurors are claiming that the juror is inserting a "more likely than not" standard over the more stringent "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard?
Did she kill the kids? Yes. Was it murder? Yes. Was she insane when she did it? I'm not privy to that. Maybe that's the objection...he/she thinks she wasn't insane. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (l3cgK) 38
>>>They haven't said who it is.
but the defense lawyer wants that juror off the jury, so we can assume that juror is adverse to his client. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (1wjle) 39
thank god for tiktok or there would be no one to explain how the husband did it
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (CWTWj) Candace has taken up the charge for Lindsey, she can't have it end so quickly. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (uhVAy) 40
Then who killed babies?
Posted by: Then who was phone? at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (koJFD) 41
This stinks to high heaven. You can't poll the jury until after it has reached a verdict. This is tampering, pure and simple.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (+e6QC) 42
"Bro... they are 1 holdout away from acquittal. Holy shit!"
Well put. How depraved can this society get? Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (Jr5Lq) 43
I feel for this lone, probably a man, juror.
These Clancy Cult gals are going to want to burn him at the stake. He’ll get doxxed, stalked, and as many death threats as Trump gets any random week. If it’s a woman, all I’ve got to say is she’s got bigger balls than any man on the jury. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (6ydKt) 44
I'm more sure now, it's 11 to acquit and one to convict, the defense wants to get the one "convict" vote off the jury so he can get a 12-0 acquittal. If the lone juror stays on the jury and does not flip, it goes to a new trial, tho the prosecution will just strike a deal.
Posted by: ace at Yes but the defense attorney is making an assumption that's the scenario. He may have been saved by the judge. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (YZ0Fo) 45
12 So . . . this means we can murder at will, so long as we claim to be mentally impaired?
Yes but only if a) you're a woman and b) the victims are your children. Posted by: Filicide is peak femininity at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (TbWk/) 46
well I guess the defense lawyer doesn't know what the last juror thinks, either. But he sure does seem to have an inkling.
Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (1wjle) 47
What the actual f....
Posted by: pookysgirl wishes that Massachusetts had the death penalty at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (Wt5PA) 48
Won't a defense attorney make these kinds of demands just to create any excuse for an appeal if there is a conviction?
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (/OKHJ) 49
Looney bin or prison, either way keep her locked up for life.
She can play Mommy to Paul and Sid in the looney bin. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (k3nnj) Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (/QHx4) 51
Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (JrHfD) We could use some sensible women to produce some peer pressure in the other direction. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (uhVAy) 52
Maybe they can get a rational jury next time
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:04 PM Up here?! Shirley, you jest. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (9iRTe) 53
If this woman had been a Bank Of America VP the left would have been calling for her immolation.
Posted by: fd If she had strangled three puppies, the left would have burned the courthouse down. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (S+dwn) 54
>>Yes but the defense attorney is making an assumption that's the scenario. He may have been saved by the judge.
yes he's making an assumption, but.... he does seem very confident of that assumption. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (1wjle) 55
The defense has to prove the insanity plea that she didn't know right from wrong.
== the burden is on prosecution, they are arguing that she yes, she was depressed but sane enough to kill with premeditation; the defense wants not guilty by reason of insanity Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (g47mK) 56
Beyond a reasonable doubt she killed her kids. The defense has to prove the insanity plea that she didn't know right from wrong. She sent her husband away because she knew he would stop her, which indicates she knew it was wrong. She's guilt. Convict her.
I mean sure, you are using logic and all, but I just subjected myself to Shoe0nHead and her highlighting the 'tards on tiktok with their tarot cards. Jebus wept Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (Iwv3U) 57
The doubt would be as to the issue of the affirmative defense of insanity or temporary psychosis or whatever their calling it, yes?
It seems to me that that assessment of reasonable doubt is a personal one, and I am not wholly convinced that such claims are not merely opportunistic fakery to avoid prison myself. I don't know why you would then instruct such a juror that it is not about removing ALL possible doubt, unless that is merely defense attorney puffery. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (dK+Kv) 58
Yes, Fen!
Not all women defend this murderer. So much damage done/ moral sickness revealed with this case! Posted by: Lizzy at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (4KUe5) 59
Thank you Blonde Morticia! Posted by: BruceWayne =============== Nothing more need be said, here's a cat video! https://tinyurl.com/5n764z5d Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: dantesed at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (p3pWU) 61
38 >>>They haven't said who it is.
but the defense lawyer wants that juror off the jury, so we can assume that juror is adverse to his client. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (1wjle) That's his gamble. It could very well be one of the pink wearing jurors who absolutely refuses to entertain the idea she is guilty of anything. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (N39Ws) 62
45 12 So . . . this means we can murder at will, so long as we claim to be mentally impaired?
Yes but only if a) you're a woman and b) the victims are your children. Posted by: Filicide is peak femininity at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (TbWk/) Hey, don'ta forget abouta me! Posted by: Luigi Mangione at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (l3cgK) 63
This is why I never want to sit on a jury and will go to great lengths to never do so.
Posted by: huerfano at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (2Xqig) 64
"Looney bin or prison, either way keep her locked up for life."
AND sterilize her so she cannot do it again. Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (Jr5Lq) 65
Does anyone every use those books that are always on the shelves in courtrooms?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (bOXl3) 66
If the lone juror stays on the jury and does not flip, it goes to a new trial, tho the prosecution will just strike a deal.
Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:08 PM (1wjle) If it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad.. Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (+gK6I) 67
60 This Clancy woman has a nose that looks like a ski slope.
Am I the only one who noticed that? Posted by: dantesed at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (p3pWU) 12 foot drop onto a hard surface can do that. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (N39Ws) 68
Won't a defense attorney make these kinds of demands just to create any excuse for an appeal if there is a conviction?
Posted by: Mark1971 Yup! I told him to bounce that juror and now my client is rotting in prison. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (YZ0Fo) 69
This Clancy woman has a nose that looks like a ski slope.
Am I the only one who noticed that? Posted by: dantesed at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (p3pWU) Didn't notice it from the murder eyes worse than any cat looking at a mouse. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (uhVAy) 70
Jonathan Turley thinks that there were multiple jurors who switched from "guilty" to "not guilty" but one holdout remains in the "guilty" camp.
Karens in the Jury room: Hey you MAGAt if you vote guilty we are going to share your full name and where you live... /makes the Clancy strangling people hand gesture The multiple P*ssies: Crap. Uh, yeah you make a persuasive point...not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. One based guy: Bring it Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (sKqQm) 71
sorry my first draft was so garbled and basically the opposite of what it is now. I got snowed by Fake News from a guy who really wants a conviction and let that color his "analysis," such as it is.
Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (1wjle) 72
Oh fucking hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (zZu0s) 73
If it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad..
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (+gK6I) If it becomes a mistrial, and she determines she can't handle it, that leaves her 2 choices. Plead guilty to a lesser charge (2nd Degree?) Look longingly at the bedsheets. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (N39Ws) 74
What is the difference between being evil or insane?
Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (/QHx4) Insanity as a legal term means the person was so incapacitated by mental illness that they did not know the difference between right or wrong while committing the crime. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (6ydKt) 75
What she did is too similar to abortions and nothing must be allowed to cast any doubt or any aspersion of guilt on that.
Anything other than acquittal would set a dangerous precedent. Women have the right to murder their children, period. Posted by: PG at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (ALjk1) 76
"Reasonable doubt" about what?
She killed her children. Pre-meditated. Is she "crazy" or taking medication or not taking medication or both, or neither is all fucking legal fairy-tale nonsense. Twaddle for tards. Either prison, or the nuthouse. She's a nutcase? A whack job? Keep her away from society. And children. And other living things. Life sure is cheap here in these U. States now. And it's because of clowns in robes and the other usual suspects and mental defectives. Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (DpTPc) 77
Are they just temporarily dead?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (aslCY) 78
If she had strangled three puppies, the left would have burned the courthouse down. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (S+dwn) ___________ Today's left would say dogs are haram and they should all be strangled. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (eRlcH) 79
It is my understanding that she either goes to jail for life, or goes to metal institution for life (if found to be not capable of knowing right from wrong) .
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (g47mK) 80
Does anyone every use those books that are always on the shelves in courtrooms?
Posted by: bob Sure. They prop doors open, double as a paperweight, or provide a boost to reach something else on the shelf. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (zWqu+) 81
Everyone knows life doesn't begin until you enter college!
Posted by: Mass. Jurisprudence at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (zvo7E) 82
Up here?!
Shirley, you jest. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (9iRTe) I know, but it will make this POS murderess have to go through another trial ... Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (+gK6I) 83
It might be a real Mom who is the holdout.
Posted by: epador at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (krPVf) Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (odBC9) 85
74 What is the difference between being evil or insane?
Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (/QHx4) Insanity as a legal term means the person was so incapacitated by mental illness that they did not know the difference between right or wrong while committing the crime. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:13 PM (6ydKt) I admit to not following this trial at all. That being said, I was under the impression some planning by her was involved (looking "things" up on the internet, making sure her hubby was away...) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (l3cgK) 86
It's moider I tells ya.
Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (UjdFS) 87
And all the supposedly rational men (mostly on Insty) who were setting their hair on fire and encouraging each other to practice self-defense by assuming that all women are out to kill everyone they can get their hands on and therefore men should enslave them for everyone's safety can STFU and STFD.
I agree that a lot of men have kinda gone overboard, and are no longer joking about repealing the 19th but most of were really caught off guard by the overwhelming insanity of ordinary women regarding this case. And its not just the fringes. Tik Tok Brain has really rotted a lot of women's minds. Even ShoeOnHead was losing her stuff over the reactions. It it even a large minority of women? No. But its WAY TOO FREAKING MANY. Its like women finding out that it seems like 7 out of 10 men on social media think that if a guy gets really lonely then rape isn't all that bad and we should have sympathy for that lonely, horny guy and besides she probably raped herself anyway. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (K32Fz) 88
>>>Not all women defend this murderer.
yup, this is down to the absolutely toxic and lunatic tik-tok addicted AWFULs. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (1wjle) 89
Thanks for coming back from your vacation for this, ace. We need you.
Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (odBC9) 90
I mean sure, you are using logic and all, but I just subjected myself to Shoe0nHead and her highlighting the 'tards on tiktok with their tarot cards.
Jebus wept Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at September 03, 2026 04:11 PM (Iwv3U) "The 'A' of Apples means you're gay!" made me laugh so hard. Posted by: pookysgirl wants to see the G card at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (Wt5PA) 91
it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad..
Posted by: It's me donna The really rich part of that lil spiel by the attorney. He said "she just really misses her kids". Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (YZ0Fo) 92
Just clumps of cells.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (aslCY) 93
Karens in the Jury room: Hey you MAGAt if you vote guilty we are going to share your full name and where you live... /makes the Clancy strangling people hand gesture
The multiple P*ssies: Crap. Uh, yeah you make a persuasive point...not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. One based guy: Bring it Posted by: 18-1 Yeah. I'll draw you a map. Make sure you bring Level IV plates and a toe tag. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (S+dwn) 94
It's not possible 11 people on a jury would want to acquit that ... thing, is it? They ought to be locked up too, basically.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (DpTPc) 95
This bitch had mental breakdowns and was medicated allegedly caused as a result of having her first two kids and where subsequently there was always a chance she would hurt them or herself. The insanity I see in this matter is proceeding with having a third kid.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (KC5Lt) 96
"It is my understanding that she either goes to jail for life, or goes to metal institution for life"
Locked up in a cell inside the bottom of Iron Maiden's bassist's amplifier. Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (Jr5Lq) 97
>>>It it even a large minority of women? No.
yes it is a large minority, maybe even a majority. A fringe movement doesn't get 11-1. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (1wjle) 98
28 Lindsey Clancy has also asked the bailiff to run an errand to give her time to talk to the juror.
well that got a laugh a very very dark laugh but still Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (j+aD2) 99
They are not arguing whether she committed murder, the argument is whether there is no reasonable doubt that she was "insane" at the time.
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (g47mK) 100
Its like women finding out that it seems like 7 out of 10 men on social media think that if a guy gets really lonely then rape isn't all that bad and we should have sympathy for that lonely, horny guy and besides she probably raped herself anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (K32Fz) In the olden days in some places, if a single guy raped a girl, they were forced to marry...that must've been rough on the girl, having to marry her rapist. I'm more for the death penalty for the crime myself, but SCOTUS took that off the table... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (l3cgK) 101
Everyone knows life doesn't begin until you enter college!
Posted by: Mass. Jurisprudence 26. When you lose your parents insurance. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (YZ0Fo) 102
could he be somehow setting the stage for an appeal?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (bOXl3) 103
Allowing an insanity defense in a capital case is itself insane.
This isn't some nut bar running around naked because she claims she's got invisible bugs on her skin... This is murder. All murders are crazy. And they should get the noose/needle anyway Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (sKqQm) 104
If it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad..
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (+gK6I) == Hopefully they'll get a different prosecutor as well. From what I've read she's done a lousy job. Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (0bjKf) 105
Clancy's husband is going to swing, and not in the fun key party way.
Posted by: Oglebay at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (2ap+5) 106
Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (JrHfD) -------------- If a man had murdered three of his children, do you think there would be throngs of other men defending him? So no, they don't represent all women, but it highlights a pretty big problem. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (2UnvF) 107
Where'd they find these jurors, the DSA membership rolls?
Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (UjdFS) 108
I was thinking--in a kind of sick way--the other day: Just let her go. See what that does to popular opinion.
Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (odBC9) 109
did anyone see the defense attorney yucking it up yesterday after the judge sent them back?!?
I feel like he'd only do that if he knew it was a lone holdout against "his side." also he's a total douche Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (j+aD2) 110
Mens Rea, man!
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (g47mK) 111
Sh0eOnHead rubbished the claim that "Big Pharma" did this -- this woman was a pill-head who doctor-shopped to get the pills she wanted and did not tell other doctors what prescriptions she already had, because she knew doctors would decide she was on too many drugs and the interactions could be dangerous.
She did all of this herself. Just another pillhead AWFUL who goes on Tik-Tok to diagnose herself. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (1wjle) 112
Jistice is blind, not deaf.
Posted by: Eromero at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (LHPAg) 113
109 I was thinking--in a kind of sick way--the other day: Just let her go. See what that does to popular opinion.
nothing will happen we already let women kill their babies so these are just older ones Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (j+aD2) 114
Sad…. If this is what’s happening, 11 people with zero moral compass
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (n7Rsm) 115
I was informed on Twixxer that in Canada:
"Murder of a child less than 1 is a lesser charge. Canada would hit her with full charges for the other two." I mean it rationally follows from abortion but its horrendous Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (K32Fz) 116
In the olden days in some places, if a single guy raped a girl, they were forced to marry...that must've been rough on the girl, having to marry her rapist.
I'm more for the death penalty for the crime myself, but SCOTUS took that off the table... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (l3cgK) I'm actually for the girl's dad/brother/uncle taking care of business. There are still places in the USA where this would be a thing. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (N39Ws) 117
four seasons: "What is the difference between being evil or insane?"
Knowing vs not knowing you're evil. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (oji8u) 118
I feel like I'm a clump of cells when I read news like this. I can't possibly share actual sentient genetics with this jury pool.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (88C+u) 119
113 Jistice is blind, not deaf.
Posted by: Eromero at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (LHPAg) Justice is partisan. Justice can be bribed and blackmailed. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (l3cgK) 120
12 Angry Karens.
Posted by: WisRich at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (G0vdT) 121
107 Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (JrHfD) No one believes that.. It takes a certain type of psycho Karen... Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (+gK6I) 122
The justice system in this country is dead and not coming back. Heaven help you if you get caught up in it's machinations.
It's every man for hisself now. Posted by: Rufus T Justice at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (xFvo2) 123
Seeing as this is MA, did the prosecutor intentionally tank the case?
You aren't getting re-elected in MA for sending a popular leftwing martyr to prison Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (sKqQm) 124
Since when did being insane absolve someone of committing injury? I missed that part.
I can see an insanity claim if you pulled out your genitals at a springsteen gig, but actual violence? Guilty. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (C/aDH) 125
It is my understanding that she either goes to jail for life, or goes to mental institution for life (if found to be not capable of knowing right from wrong) .
==== We're talking Massachusetts here. Are you sure about this? I'm just guessing that it's way, way more fake, and gay, than that. Gotta be. Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (DpTPc) 126
I admit to not following this trial at all. That being said, I was under the impression some planning by her was involved (looking "things" up on the internet, making sure her hubby was away...)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (l3cgK) Yes, there is a lot of evidence she planned it all and that she probably intended to kill herself but bungled it. Some people think she believed her husband was having an affair and this was all an elaborate revenge ploy. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (6ydKt) 127
99 They are not arguing whether she committed murder, the argument is whether there is no reasonable doubt that she was "insane" at the time.
Posted by: runner -- But let's be clear -- "insane" by the legal definition that she did not know it was wrong. This is hard to swallow since all her plans were to evade detection and avoid punishment. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (bOXl3) 128
A Jury of her peers.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (aslCY) 129
108 Where'd they find these jurors, the DSA membership rolls?
Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (UjdFS) Also known as the Commonwealth of Mass. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (N39Ws) 130
She did all of this herself. Just another pillhead AWFUL who goes on Tik-Tok to diagnose herself.
https://youtu.be/x-zxBNz3XbM Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (K32Fz) 131
I mean sure, you are using logic and all, but I just subjected myself to Shoe0nHead and her highlighting the 'tards on tiktok with their tarot cards.
Posted by: pookysgirl wants to see the G card at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (Wt5PA) I have a Tarot deck about. Tarot girl doesn't know tarot. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (uhVAy) 132
Evil vs insane?
No idea, since they have been using insanity defense for mass murderers and terrorists for years as a way to explain away their violence. See, it was a radicalized lone wolf that stabbed/burned/shot all those random strangers, it’s not his religion or gender ideology!! Posted by: Lizzy at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (4KUe5) 133
I guess since half of my comment is getting transferred to this thread, I may as well repost the rest of it.
I think this is where I get to remind everyone about all those people who were posting those meme images of the three men being the only ones to try to uphold justice. If the holdout wants not guilty by reason of insanity, and the rest want life in prison, you all owe an apology to at least 8 of the women on the jury. If the holdout wants life in prison, and the other 11 want not guilty by reason of insanity, you owe everyone an apology for assuming all the men would be more interested in justice than... whatever they were interested in. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (vJrRc) 134
I’ll say it. If this bitch goes free I hope some fucking goes full vigilante on her child murdering ass and puts her in the ground
Posted by: Gman at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (0QROS) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (dK+Kv) 136
I honestly believe that women want to reserve the right to kill their children. Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (ZxPkt) 137
I also have a comment on this defense attorney… he looks like he’s up there in years.
It boggles my mind that someone would want to conclude their career getting a murderer of little kids off. That’s how you want to finish, you sonofabitch??!! Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (n7Rsm) 138
Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Yeah its not all women, or even a majority, but its far too big a minority especially of young women. But its just as bad to have a too-large minority of men backing and supporting Andrew Tate so, yeah. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (K32Fz) 139
I heard Andrew Branca talk a bit about why Massachusetts is a bit of an outlier legally that may help Lindsay Clancy get away with this. Apparently a bunch of attorneys and judges write draft laws (model penal code) for states to consider and adopt, and their draft standard for insanity defense is very permissive and Lefty, and Massachusetts is one of the only states to adopt it.
The burden is on the prosecution to prove the defendant was legally competent (unlike most states where the defense must prove insanity to the jury) and: A defendant is not criminally responsible if, at the time of the offense, they had a mental disease or defect and, as a result, lacked substantial capacity either: to appreciate the criminality (or wrongfulness) of their conduct, or to conform their conduct to the requirements of the law. Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (EGAVS) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (k3nnj) 141
220 I think Sayed is the lynchpin of the DNC-DSA op so I am still expecting a "win".
I don't see the point of Sayed as just a "we reject our crazies" example. He's too polished. We are in Sayed Times. Not Not Sayed Times. Posted by: ... at September 03, 2026 02:15 PM (PFPLb) If you mean that any distance between the DNC and DSA is fake and gay, so the Party will ultimately lend AMES its fraud machine, I see no reason to disagree. I also would not necessarily expect that to be enough to put him over the top. As I understand it, there's basically a dial to the machine, different levels of fraud for whether risk exposure makes the operatives feel a rush or just dread. I don't have any personal experience with Michigan, but I think outside of Muslim-majority and college-dominated precincts, AMES will just get perfunctory standard fraud services, and I'm skeptical that will overcome his personal shortcomings. Posted by: SciVo at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (ke3zm) 142
Yes, there is a lot of evidence she planned it all and that she probably intended to kill herself but bungled it.
Some people think she believed her husband was having an affair and this was all an elaborate revenge ploy. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (6ydKt) 2 story window? doubtful of the seriousness of the suicide. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (uhVAy) 143
Lindsay Clancy Trial: 11 to One In Favor of ... Full Acquittal, With a Single Juror Hanging on For a Conviction?
In a sane world this is not possible. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (cpFbA) 144
There is no objective reality, no right or wrong. This is what a lot of depraved people think.
Normalizing all this shit is Job 1. This is how you do it. As one might observe, it does drive people insane. But that's a bonus. Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (DpTPc) Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (j+aD2) 146
I'm not a lawyer and I don't understand the definition of reasonable doubt. I watched the clip. I don't get it.
Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (odBC9) 147
@73
The prosecution never offered her a plea deal. They always wanted it to go to trial. And given the hysteria that Twitter-men have had around this case, "acquittal" likely means guilty but insane and going to a mental institution. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (JT2CP) 148
before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke No one believes that.. It takes a certain type of psycho Karen... Posted by: It's me donna There are whole bunch of people who are doing a very convincing job of portraying themselves as believing it. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (vJrRc) 149
Lizzie Borden to the white courtesy phone please.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (R+lP7) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (k3nnj) 151
I look at the planning the evil bitch did. Planned for the father to be away for a long while so she could murder the children. There was planning involved to murder the children using exercise bands. Also planning to have one of the children in another room so he did not see what she was doing. Exercise bands???WTF She is not insane and needs to burn in hell. Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (/QHx4) 152
Jistice is blind, not deaf.
Posted by: Eromero at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (LHPAg) Justice is partisan. Justice can be bribed and blackmailed. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:18 PM (l3cgK) Justice got strangled in the basement in front of its siblings, morality and decency. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (dK+Kv) Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (ZxPkt) 154
There are whole bunch of people who are doing a very convincing job of portraying themselves as believing it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (vJrRc) Here ? Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (+gK6I) 155
>>>The burden is on the prosecution to prove the defendant was legally competent (unlike most states where the defense must prove insanity to the jury) and:
A defendant is not criminally responsible if, at the time of the offense, they had a mental disease or defect and, as a result, lacked substantial capacity either: to appreciate the criminality (or wrongfulness) of their conduct, or to conform their conduct to the requirements of the law. oh boy, that is very helpful to any murderer who has "diminished capacity." It's basically: I have a bad brain/bad morality that makes it harder for me to conform to the rule against murder, so I'm excused from following it. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (1wjle) 156
there is a lot of evidence she planned it all and that she probably intended to kill herself but bungled it.
Some people think she believed her husband was having an affair and this was all an elaborate revenge ploy. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (6ydKt) 2 story window? doubtful of the seriousness of the suicide. Posted by: Oldcat at September Nurse that only did superficial Cuts on her wrists (horizontally) and neck (nowhere near the carotid) Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:23 PM (YZ0Fo) 157
As I understand it, there's basically a dial to the machine, different levels of fraud for whether risk exposure makes the operatives feel a rush or just dread. I don't have any personal experience with Michigan, but I think outside of Muslim-majority and college-dominated precincts, AMES will just get perfunctory standard fraud services, and I'm skeptical that will overcome his personal shortcomings. Posted by: SciVo at September 03, 2026 04:21 PM (ke3zm) there's an art to old style fraud that the new generation doesn't really understand. You need to keep it sensible enough for deniability. Plus 60 percent to losing in a day - hard to do. Counting for a month - hard to do. Soon all the old skills will be lost. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:24 PM (uhVAy) 158
Well, it's not as if the world were filled with deranged idiots.
Not Satire: Gay couple says they will "immediately" seek asylum in Gaza if conservatives take over Spain https://tinyurl.com/bd9rftrf - Let me rethink that . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 03, 2026 04:24 PM (ndZc7) 159
She did all of this herself. Just another pillhead AWFUL who goes on Tik-Tok to diagnose herself.
Posted by: ace ----- The thing is, if she is blaming the pills then she clearly knew what she was doing there was wrong too. This is the standard "I was drunk" excuse which has no legal merit as the person is responsible for getting drunk. Yet, I wonder if the prosecutor made that clear -- if she blames the pills, and she doctor shopped to get the pills, it is still her fault. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:24 PM (bOXl3) 160
Yes, there is a lot of evidence she planned it all and that she probably intended to kill herself but bungled it.
Uh...as a nurse, she would be well aware of how to kill herself. Cutting her wrists with shallow cuts across, a shallow neck cut, and jumping out a second story window aren't fatal...they were part of her plan to build a defense through insanity. The only part that went wrong was the fall paralyzing her. Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (EGAVS) 161
But let's be clear -- "insane" by the legal definition that she did not know it was wrong.
This is hard to swallow since all her plans were to evade detection and avoid punishment. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (bOXl3) that is prosecutorial framing, the burden is on them to make the case, beyond reasonable doubt, that all the actions they cite as evidence were premeditated Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (g47mK) 162
This Clancy woman has a nose that looks like a ski slope.
Am I the only one who noticed that? == Witch nose.... Posted by: Hey Now at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (anL5R) 163
The burden is on the prosecution to prove the defendant was legally competent (unlike most states ...
---- OK. Yeah, this case has an odor to it... That explains part of it. It's being used to knock another civilizational pillar away, is what it looks like. At least get in a little practice anyhow. Refine it a little more the next time. Lather, rinse, repeat. Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (DpTPc) 164
This bullshit has been all over TV for a while. Shoulda sequestered the jury with only Hot Pockets and a port-a-potty.
Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (UjdFS) 165
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Mitt Romney 5 minutes ago Lindsay Clancy represents the very best of this nation. The cruelty of the prosecutors must not stand. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:07 PM (1wjle) Welp. Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (odBC9) 166
"Not all women
but enough that it might be a real thing" I'd ask: where is the cohort of male Clancy supporters? Are there any? If there are few or none, I'd say there's a difference there that might could be examined. Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (Jr5Lq) 167
I think I'll buy more ammo.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (zWqu+) 168
If it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad..
Posted by: It's me donna "Hasn't she suffered enough?" Posted by: t-bird at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (zvo7E) 169
I'm half looking forward to Islam taking over just to put the bitches in their place.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (DbmIv) 170
That one clip from the courtroom, Lindsay had shark eyes.
The ones that bothered me more were her family members, especially that one bouncing around grinning like she got front row tickets to a Taylor Swift concert Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (K32Fz) Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (vJrRc) 172
Think of the play and later movie. "Twelve Angry Karens". Sadly Brett Sommers is no longer around, as a counterpoint to Jack Klugman.
Posted by: pahound at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (AjR4+) 173
All is proceeding as we have forseen.
Posted by: Big Moloch, a wholly-owned subsidary of Big Penguin at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (0sNs1) 174
>>>There are whole bunch of people who are doing a very convincing job of portraying themselves as believing it.
No one believes "all women" support this psychopathy, but if you haven't noticed that a huge number of women support this murderess, you're deliberately avoiding looking or you're deliberately downplaying it. Even the NYT admitted "Gee, a large number of women seem to think this Lindsay Clancy is some kind of feminist martyr." No one is blaming all women. But yes, a large number of AWFULs are now genuinely evil and psychopathic in their ceaseless rage and endless pill-shopping. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (1wjle) Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (ZxPkt) 176
WTAF?
The Left loves the argument that the person was "insane" and therefore could not tell right from wrong. However, she planned the crime to avoid getting caught while doing the deed. She knew she was doing wrong! My dogs are smart enough, and non-insane enough, to know when they are doing wrong. Basically, the AWFLs are trying to convince us not to convict this woman because she has less capacity for reasoning than my dogs? Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (HlyYF) 177
It it even a large minority of women? No. But its WAY TOO FREAKING MANY.
You know how with Islam "moderate" means "won't kill you themselves, but will be happy if Abdul does it"? There is significant soft support for "if she decided she wasn't Living Laughing Loving enough because of her kids it's OK". Posted by: Ian S. at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (2ocoG) 178
The burden is on the prosecution to prove the defendant was legally competent __________ So M'Naghten is out the window. There's no longer a presumption that one committing a crime is sane. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (eRlcH) 179
The defense has to prove the insanity plea that she didn't know right from wrong.
-- I was just thinking...she was known many times to have stated she was having dark, bad thoughts. This implies she knew those thoughts (ie. killing her kids) were wrong. And if she knew they were wrong, she is 100% guilty and responsible. Posted by: Lady in Black at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (qBdHI) 180
Have you not read this thread? Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (vJrRc) Came in a bit late... Just a bunch of Morons here so we're good.... Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (+gK6I) 181
This is recent phenomena of trial groupies, ya’ll.
Look back, did other kilker mom’s get this treatment? No. Andrea Yates comes close but she really is schizo. Susan Smith didn’t get thus treatment. This is a social contagion among women on social media from what I’m seeing. Just another cause to put in the female NPC bio for women who are suckers for good drama. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (6ydKt) 182
Sadly Brett Sommers is no longer around, as a counterpoint to Jack Klugman.
Posted by: pahound at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM Elke Sommers > Brett Sommers Posted by: J. Random 'Ron at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (0sNs1) 183
Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM (JT2CP)
But the argument is she’s not not guilty by reason of insanity. Her case doesn’t meet the requirements on its face. She definitely knew right from wrong because she planned it in a manner that proves she knew right from wrong. Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (KC5Lt) 184
There is absolutely no reason for child murder to not be a strict liability crime. In MA if a teacher sleeps with a 16yo student it's strict liability. There is no oh I was crazy so I'm not guilty.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (YZ0Fo) Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (odBC9) 186
We can't have trial by jury in a country ruled by feelz.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (N1DT3) 187
Serious question. What is the difference between being evil or insane? Posted by: four seasons ================ Good question. Intent? My psychotic friend says things that aren't true all the time. But I can't call her a liar, because she firmly, sincerely believes they are true. I don't know what to call her except out of touch with reality. The best book I read on the subject was The Best Minds by Jonathan Rosen. His effing brilliant childhood friend had a schizophrenic break as a young man and stabbed his pregnant fiance to death, thinking she was a malignant wind-up doll. The friend has been confined since then and occasionally wonders where the dead woman is -- Paris? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (mmrXZ) 188
170 If it's true 11 want to acquit, I hope for a new trial. The defense lawyer said his client may not be able to handle a new trial... Too f'ing bad..
Posted by: It's me donna "Hasn't she suffered enough?" Posted by: t-bird at September 03, 2026 04:25 PM (zvo7E) Like a kid who murders his parents and asks for mercy because he's a orphan. She planned and executed (literally) the most heinous crime imaginable, which is not something that can be accomplished by someone so crazy she didn't know what she was doing. It is just evil to expect her to be acquitted. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (460M+) 189
oh boy, that is very helpful to any murderer who has "diminished capacity." It's basically: I have a bad brain/bad morality that makes it harder for me to conform to the rule against murder, so I'm excused from following it.
Posted by: ace ----- But surely there is lots of precedent for "I didn't know what I was doing because I was drunk." And I really doubt that was ever exculpatory. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:27 PM (bOXl3) 190
David Crespi killed his kids 25?? years ago in Charlotte. He and his defense blamed his meds. The DA offered a plea deal to take the DP off the table. Crespi took the deal. Life with no parole I think.
Posted by: nckate at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (enNUy) 191
>>>"Hasn't she suffered enough?"
They also say this with liberal men caught breaking the law. When Kevin Clinesmith was discovered to have forged and altered documents and submitted these forgeries to a court, they suspended his license for a year. Then, when he came up for his criminal trial, the judge said "Hasn't he been punished enough by losing his license?" and set him free, not a day in jail. And then, a few months later, he had his law license back. Hasn't he been punished enough? Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (1wjle) 192
They are not arguing whether she committed murder, the argument is whether there is no reasonable doubt that she was "insane" at the time.
Posted by: runner -- But let's be clear -- "insane" by the legal definition that she did not know it was wrong. This is hard to swallow since all her plans were to evade detection and avoid punishment. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (bOXl3) This is the nut of it, as I understand it. Massachusetts has a unique burden on prosecution where they must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is/was sane. In every other state, the defense has to prove their insanity claim.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (nbLIj) 193
Just clumps of cells.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (aslCY) This is the end-result of legalizing abortion. Abortion devalues human life. The pro-aborts are happy at the thought of killing a baby at the moment of crowning in the birth canal. Now we have the advocates of the murder of toddlers if mommy has the sads. Sometimes, I watch the Abolitionists Rising videos on the Tube of Ewes. The slavering fury of the pro-aborts is shocking to see. Abortion has to be made illegal again and the practitioners sent to prison. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (ksbjf) 194
The really rich part of that lil spiel by the attorney. He said "she just really misses her kids".
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:15 PM (YZ0Fo) Apparently, her attorney is the insane one. Posted by: Ann at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (SHHm+) 195
And given the hysteria that Twitter-men have had around this case, "acquittal" likely means guilty but insane and going to a mental institution.
Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 04:22 PM Nope, acquittal means she is not guilty. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (cpFbA) 196
The Left loves the argument that the person was "insane" and therefore could not tell right from wrong.
Even if you accept that, the outcome that "we're letting a person who can't tell right from wrong loose in the community" is fucked. Same as the "it's their culture" argument with illegals. Posted by: Ian S. at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (2ocoG) 197
no doubt!
Posted by: pahound at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (AjR4+) Posted by: Oglebay at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (2ap+5) 199
>>>But surely there is lots of precedent for "I didn't know what I was doing because I was drunk." And I really doubt that was ever exculpatory.
it's a hard sell because you chose to render yourself so senseless. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (1wjle) 200
I'd hit it.
Posted by: MJ at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (XOmY9) Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (Jr5Lq) 202
Some people think she believed her husband was having an affair and this was all an elaborate revenge ploy.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (6ydKt) She was taking a cocktail of drugs which no doctor would ever recommend taking all at once. She could have believed that her husband was fucking a cat girl from Beta Centauri and that her kids were secretly possessed by half the zutts who banged Muhammad's squeaker. But it doesn't matter. If some white thug does a bunch of angel dust and runs into a bunch of cops with a machete screaming I AM A GOLDEN PHARAOH, and gets plugged, nobody sane is going to defend him. Posted by: 88C+u at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (88C+u) 203
101 Everyone knows life doesn't begin until you enter college!
Posted by: Mass. Jurisprudence You start to live when you learn to drive. Posted by: Leo and Mrs. Weiser at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (Fn+3X) 204
No one is blaming all women. But yes, a large number of AWFULs are now genuinely evil and psychopathic in their ceaseless rage and endless pill-shopping.
Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (1wjle) There have also been other child murder cases in the past, 30+ years ago with similar, if less numerous reactions among a set of women. It wasn't great then either. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (uhVAy) 205
Every nurse knows that drinking antifreeze is the best way to commit suicide.
Hell, it's even tasty. Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (bX16E) 206
This is crazy stuff. She killed the kids, and admitted it. Saying she was insane when she did it shouldn't obviate the guilty verdict, only dictate she get therapy in prison.
Maybe the Massachusetts definition of insanity defense allows what is happening and, if so, that's a bad statute. Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (eCS0V) 207
I'm not a lawyer and I don't understand the definition of reasonable doubt. I watched the clip. I don't get it.
Posted by: m ...... I have reasonable doubt the jurors can tie their shoes. Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (UjdFS) 208
There are so many sick people who are rooting for the evil bitch to get acquited. Any man out there who has children with one of her supporters should immediately protect his children. Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (/QHx4) 209
There is significant soft support for "if she decided she wasn't Living Laughing Loving enough because of her kids it's OK".
There is a segment of young women who were raised as princesses, got everything they ever wanted, coasted through life, then got some responsibilities and have thrown a tantrum for years about how unjust it all is and men are to blame. I am no parent but did really like the guy I read who said that its tempting to raise your daughter as a princess protected from everything but then you aren't readying her for life and will make her more miserable as a result. You don't raise her like a boy but she's gotta face tough times and scary things at least a little to get used to the idea. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (K32Fz) Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (ZxPkt) 211
Well, I think I'll leave this thread before we get the geniuses who think that all the deranged performance artists on Tik Tok dressing up and supporting Clancy represent all women.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (JrHfD) -------------- If a man had murdered three of his children, do you think there would be throngs of other men defending him? So no, they don't represent all women, but it highlights a pretty big problem. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 03, 2026 04:17 PM (2UnvF) Duke is 100% correct. There is simply too large a number of women to handwave this away. We're even seeing a handful of regular "conservative" posters seeking to blameshift away from Clancy or deflect by attacking men for calling out the cultural insanity we're observing in real time. Posted by: Feminism is cancer at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (TbWk/) 212
Life sure is cheap here in these U. States now. And it's because of clowns in robes and the other usual suspects and mental defectives.
== For decades women have been allowed to kill their own children at their most defenseless and innocent. Millions dead. If this culture allows that, and in fact APPLAUDS it. Claims it as a RIGHT, then how can it surprised when the champions of infanticide want to move the goal line to toddlercide. Why would they not want more power after you have given them the taste. Posted by: Hey Now at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (anL5R) 213
Of course she knew right from wrong. She sent her husband on errands to get him out of the house! Premeditation plus it shows she knew it was wrong because hubby would stop her if he were home. Why would hubby stop her from doing something that was A-okay?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (n7Rsm) 214
It's becoming a thing.
Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more? Kimberlee Singler (CO '23) - 2 kids (9& 7) Jennifer Stately (MN '24) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Janette MacAusland(MA 26) - 2 kids (7&6) Hailey Dempsey (FL '26) - 2 kids (4 & 4mo) Marlene Vidal (TX '26) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Sarah Myers (NY '26) - 4 kids (13, 11, 10, 10) Kailey Erhart (ND '26) - 2 kids (3 & 5mo) We need a wellness check for every home that has Clancy supporters Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (S+dwn) 215
Late late late way late abortion
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (Ia/+0) 216
36 Anyone wanna bet jurors got threatened?
It's already been speculated sequester failed... Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (OUMaO) They ... weren't sequestered. Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (odBC9) 217
Geeeezzzz make it stop!
Will Cain just showed a video of a box of letters from all over the world sent to Lindsey Clancy showing solidarity of their support for her. This killer who strangled her 3 children is getting fan mail. Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (NpAcC) 218
Presdent obanae shoolds doo something abouts this now !!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (pPVom) 219
Lot of kids in danger.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (zWqu+) 220
127 I admit to not following this trial at all. That being said, I was under the impression some planning by her was involved (looking "things" up on the internet, making sure her hubby was away...)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:14 PM (l3cgK) Yes, there is a lot of evidence she planned it all and that she probably intended to kill herself but bungled it. Some people think she believed her husband was having an affair and this was all an elaborate revenge ploy. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (6ydKt) Yes, there's legal precedent for killing your kids if your spouse is having an affair, right? /sarc Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (l3cgK) 221
>>>The really rich part of that lil spiel by the attorney. He said "she just really misses her kids".
literally the old joke: Your honor, please have mercy on me for murdering my parents. I'm an orphan, after all. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (1wjle) 222
First of all, don't believe anything a lawyer says.
Posted by: ... at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (PFPLb) 223
40 Then who killed babies?
Posted by: Then who was phone? at September 03, 2026 04:09 PM (koJFD) NICE. Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (odBC9) 224
129 A Jury of her peers.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:19 PM (aslCY) LOL, apparently so. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (l3cgK) 225
I'd ask: where is the cohort of male Clancy supporters? Are there any? If there are few or none, I'd say there's a difference there that might could be examined.
Posted by: gp Donating to her parents' go fund me. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (vJrRc) Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (ZxPkt) 227
No one is blaming all women. But yes, a large number of AWFULs are now genuinely evil and psychopathic in their ceaseless rage and endless pill-shopping.
Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:26 PM (1wjle) She may or may not be a psychopath, and it is quite possible to test for that, but I know for a fact she is evil. The AWFLs who support her are idiots, straight up. I also notice that all of them are alive, which I suppose is some kind of miracle, since they obviously believe it is perfectly fine to murder kids. When did human beings become so very expendable? Satan is dancing and singing. Luckily, we know he loses in the end. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (460M+) 228
229 >You start to live when you learn to drive.
----- when you become aware of your peepee Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (ZxPkt) Well, hell, that rules out the 'ettes. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (460M+) 229
Any man out there who has children with one of her supporters should immediately protect his children.
At least some guys are asking about this from dates and girlfriends and bailing when they find out she's all for the child murderer. Its like asking a dude if he thinks violence against women is cool, but at least the men have enough cunning to lie about it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (K32Fz) 230
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I honestly believe that women want to reserve the right to kill their children. Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:20 PM (ZxPkt) Hold'em in yer belly until you can come here! Posted by: California and Massachusetts at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (l3cgK) 231
She strangled s five year old girl.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (aslCY) 232
207 Every nurse knows that drinking antifreeze is the best way to commit suicide.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM Clancy is going to need the opposite of antifreeze for the place she is going to end up. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (HlyYF) Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (0sNs1) 234
On second thought, let King George keep it.
Posted by: John Adams at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (2UnvF) 235
How do you write women characters so well?!
I imagine a man, then I take away reason, and responsibility. Posted by: As good as it gets at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (anL5R) 236
We need a wellness check for every home that has Clancy supporters
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (S+dwn) Do we, though? Posted by: Zombie Charles Darwin at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (Ot/FD) 237
women are officially allowed to commit murder if they have the grumpies.
= Women have been murdering their children for less, by the millions, for longer than I've been alive. This country, certainly it's people, is evil. Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (vSvIl) 238
Sometimes, I watch the Abolitionists Rising videos on the Tube of Ewes. The slavering fury of the pro-aborts is shocking to see.
Abortion has to be made illegal again and the practitioners sent to prison. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (ksbjf) Russell Hunter has superhuman patience. I don't think I could remain as calm in the face of such unending and unrelenting hostility and drooling stupidity. Posted by: More chill than a Circle K beer cooler at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (TbWk/) 239
the guy I read who said that its tempting to raise your daughter as a princess protected from everything but then you aren't readying her for life and will make her more miserable as a result.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor --------- This is why siblings are so important. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (bOXl3) 240
48 Won't a defense attorney make these kinds of demands just to create any excuse for an appeal if there is a conviction?
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 03, 2026 04:10 PM (/OKHJ) This makes sense to me. IANAL Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (odBC9) 241
Champ Summers > Elke Sommers > Brett Sommers
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (wGerL) 242
She knew the 2nd floor jump was survivable
but it had to look like she tried Posted by: Don Black ....... Too bad she didn't face plant instead of back flop. Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (UjdFS) 243
Andrea Yates was tried in Texas.
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (g47mK) 244
It's mass hole idiot chusetts and the evil witch paralyzed herself so who knows but I'm usually bang on for this stuff and I don't think it's 11-1 not guilty. I think it's 11-1 the other way. I thought at *most* you would have 3 NG. But I will say leftard fagachusetts so I reserve the right to a mulligan for this one case.
Posted by: ... at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (PFPLb) 245
there has been 7 more?
Kimberlee Singler (CO '23) - 2 kids (9& 7) Jennifer Stately (MN '24) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Janette MacAusland(MA 26) - 2 kids (7&6) Hailey Dempsey (FL '26) - 2 kids (4 & 4mo) Marlene Vidal (TX '26) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Sarah Myers (NY '26) - 4 kids (13, 11, 10, 10) Kailey Erhart (ND '26) - 2 kids (3 & 5mo) We need a wellness check for every home that has Clancy supporters Posted by: rickb223 at You forgot that winner from TN yesterday. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (YZ0Fo) 246
237 On second thought, let King George keep it.
Posted by: John Adams at September 03, 2026 04:33 PM (2UnvF) someone's giving Yarvin a second hearing Posted by: 88C+u at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (88C+u) 247
Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more?
Clancy has also caused some that are over 29 to remember when SIDS was an epidemic in the 80s and when it was investigated more closely it just went away as an issue. Very similarly to how monkeypox went away when people started asking how infants and dogs were getting it. Posted by: Ian S. at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (2ocoG) 248
Clancy trial is crazy.
On the other side of crazy Maria Bartiromo left FOX. Fox News Media announced Thursday that Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo will be departing the network, effective immediately. “We thank Maria for her work over the last 12 1/2 years and wish her all the best on her next chapter,” the network said in a statement. Her last Fox Business show, “Mornings with Maria,” was on Sept. 3. The show will transition to a new program, “Mornings with FOX Business,” with rotating hosts, the company said. --- It wasn't a dead boy or another woman. Putting my dime on She told someone to FO. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYckn1gplnc Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (+yTe/) 249
" It's becoming a thing.
Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more? " Not just Clancy-style killings, but family-annihilator atrocities in general seem to be up. Maybe that's just press bias, or maybe because other violent crime is down, leaving more shelf-space for these stories. Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (Jr5Lq) 250
I'd ask: where is the cohort of male Clancy supporters? Are there any? If there are few or none, I'd say there's a difference there that might could be examined.
Posted by: gp He set up funds to reimburse the hospital for the costs of care and another to help for cases of parental insanity and funded a park for his kids. Someone paid into those. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (uhVAy) 251
You start to live when you learn to drive.
----- when you become aware of your peepee Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM (ZxPkt) Well, hell, that rules out the 'ettes. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:32 PM Well, that explains the inability to parallel park or pass by a Buc-ee's. Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (0sNs1) 252
At this rate, children may want to begin moving out of Massachusetts before pedicide is made mandatory.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (R+lP7) Posted by: ... at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (PFPLb) Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (g47mK) 255
Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more? "
Not just Clancy-style killings, but family-annihilator atrocities in general seem to be up. Maybe that's just press bias, or maybe because other violent crime is down, leaving more shelf-space for these stories. Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (Jr5Lq) Several copy cats already. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (uhVAy) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (Cqx++) 257
Its the same way they deal with divorce, they think its outrageous they dont automatically get 100% child custody.
Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (hgcpL) 258
This is a Mass-hole trial. Fucking Roundhead country.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (KGj36) 259
The defense lawyer claims this juror keeps "ignoring the law" and will not accept the judge's rules as to the threshold of evidence required to convict.
How does this lawyer know what is happening during jury deliberations? Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (aD4fx) 260
They ... weren't sequestered.
Yeah the judge didn't even try. Even worse, some woman apparently named "Dawn Light" (some wag suggested her middle name must be "Zerly") was yelling at jurors and filming them in an attempt to intimidate them. She got busted. Its a whole nother level of crazy. There's "I feel bad for her" Then there's "She was on a lot of drugs and sad so she shouldn't be punished" Then there's "She didn't even do it, he did, magically" Then there's "I am going to bring my child to yell enthusiastic support for a child murderer" and then there's this crazy broad. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (K32Fz) 261
the guy I read who said that its tempting to raise your daughter as a princess protected from everything but then you aren't readying her for life and will make her more miserable as a result.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor --------- This is why siblings are so important. Posted by: bob Every daughter needs at least four brothers. She'll grow up based & take no shit. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (S+dwn) 262
3 There is no doubt about one thing.. Three children were murdered by their Mother...
Posted by: It's me donna And....she'll walk. Some time in the nuthouse for 'rehabilitation and mental recovery' and she'll walk. Guilty as sin, free as a bird. Amazing... Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (sAmhv) 263
>The really rich part of that lil spiel by the attorney. He said "she just really misses her kids".
literally the old joke: Your honor, please have mercy on me for murdering my parents. I'm an orphan, after all. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:31 PM (1wjle) The Menendez Brothers Defense Posted by: Feel bad for us! at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (TbWk/) 264
I'm just wondering when we moved the sentencing phase to the trial phase?
Posted by: Drobaselt at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (vIgeW) 265
68 Won't a defense attorney make these kinds of demands just to create any excuse for an appeal if there is a conviction?
Posted by: Mark1971 Yup! I told him to bounce that juror and now my client is rotting in prison. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:12 PM (YZ0Fo) good point Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (odBC9) 266
Another new thing from the past few decades:
Female teachers molesting their students. Where were all these girls when I was in school? Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (6ydKt) 267
No one is blaming all women. But yes, a large number of AWFULs are now genuinely evil and psychopathic in their ceaseless rage and endless pill-shopping.
Posted by: ace Except a bunch on people on Insty, and a bunch of YouTubers, and probably the section of the Manosphere whose creed is All Women Are Like That. At least everyone can agree the psychotic evil AWFLs are exactly that. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (vJrRc) 268
Even worse, some woman apparently named "Dawn Light" (some wag suggested her middle name must be "Zerly")
Hah! Posted by: Ian S. at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (2ocoG) 269
And....she'll walk. Some time in the nuthouse for 'rehabilitation and mental recovery' and she'll walk. Guilty as sin, free as a bird. Amazing...
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (sAmhv) Roll... Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (+gK6I) 270
Maria Bartiromo hasn't appeared on Fox since August 9, I believe I saw.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (eCS0V) 271
11 jurors have reasonable doubt that the accused was lying when she admitted to slowly choking the life out of her two toddlers and one baby because the defense lawyer said she was a good mother?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 03, 2026 04:38 PM (VaC8w) 272
And....she'll walk. Some time in the nuthouse for 'rehabilitation and mental recovery' and she'll walk. Guilty as sin, free as a bird. Amazing...
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (sAmhv) Well not in this case unless she's faking the paralysis too. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:38 PM (uhVAy) 273
No matter what happens, there's no point for the state to retry murder 1 (or even murder 2). A 1-11 says that you are never getting 12 guilty votes for any type of murder charge.
Retrials are when you get a mistrial with the majority of juror votes...not 1. They should start from a lesser charge and go from there... Posted by: Nova Local at September 03, 2026 04:38 PM (tOcjL) 274
evil knows what's right/good and wrong/evil, but does what's wrong/evil anyway because it wants to. Sorta like the Michael Emerson character in the TV Show "Evil"...
insane is not realizing what one is doing is wrong or evil. Posted by: California and Massachusetts at September 03, 2026 04:38 PM (l3cgK) 275
Leaving your kid in a car during summer replaced SIDS
Posted by: nckate at September 03, 2026 04:38 PM (enNUy) 276
>Is that what prosecution is arguing ?
Posted by: runner ---- aw hell I don't know the justice system in this country is so f***ed up, that I've decided I'm just gonna hide under my bed so they can't touch me Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (ZxPkt) 277
Not that I in any way support it, it's 100% pure evil, but I can at least "understand" the case for why some left -wing asshole thinks its okay to shoot a health care CEO.
But what on earth is the case here for her support? That women need more grace because on a triple murder? That kids can get so bad they deserve to be killed? That this is all the husband's fault (despite her even having a nanny)? I guess all the above? Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (hgcpL) 278
276 And....she'll walk. Some time in the nuthouse for 'rehabilitation and mental recovery' and she'll walk. Guilty as sin, free as a bird. Amazing...
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (sAmhv) ___________________________ I'll do you one better. In less than a year she will be pregnant. Posted by: Orson at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (dIske) 279
Another new thing from the past few decades:
Female teachers molesting their students. Where were all these girls when I was in school? Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 04:37 PM (6ydKt) These have always been around, probably more commonly than the men because it gets hushed up. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (uhVAy) Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (/QHx4) 281
This is why siblings are so important.
yeah its like the girls who think they can beat up a man, and get into a fight with one. When they wake up they realize that life isn't like in those movies no matter how many 'self defense' videos you wanted. I was raised to not hit girls, ever, for any reason. But I see these videos of a girl just gone nuts, screaming the worst insults and hitting and kicking guys, chasing after them as the man tries to elude until he finally clocks her. I mean... what was he supposed to do? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (K32Fz) 282
Some good news?
Edgerton, Kansas The city of Edgerton, Kansas, is suing residents who organized a citizen petition to ban high-impact data centers. The residents had submitted a petition proposing an ordinance that would prohibit such facilities. The Johnson County Election Office reportedly verified that they had collected more than twice the required number of signatures. Instead of putting the measure to a vote, the city filed suit against the organizers, including Carrie Schmidt, Kimberly Twente, and the nonprofit Public Trust Collective. The city argues that the petition is legally and factually defective and is asking the court to invalidate it. Posted by: Oglebay at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (2ap+5) 283
Ooops, when I said 'male Clancy supporters,' I meant those males who support a Clancy acquittal, not the supporters of Mr. Clancy, a victim in this case.
Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (Jr5Lq) 284
But what on earth is the case here for her support? That women need more grace because on a triple murder? That kids can get so bad they deserve to be killed? That this is all the husband's fault (despite her even having a nanny)?
I guess all the above? Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (hgcpL) she's on my team. That's all. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (uhVAy) 285
aw hell I don't know
the justice system in this country is so f***ed up, that I've decided I'm just gonna hide under my bed so they can't touch me Posted by: Don Black Make sure you don't leave your feet hanging out. That's how they get ya. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (YZ0Fo) Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (OUMaO) 287
>>>It it even a large minority of women? No.
yes it is a large minority, maybe even a majority. A fringe movement doesn't get 11-1. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (1wjle) That's not even a random sampling since the prosecution should have tossed obvious feminists, assuming they want a conviction. Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (vSvIl) 288
Now you know why I abolished jury trials in Singapore.
Posted by: Zombie Lee Kuan Yew! at September 03, 2026 04:41 PM (aD4fx) 289
So my question is how did the governor allow one juror to go unvetted? That’s really rolling the dice on every woman’s right to a fifty trimester abortion.
Posted by: Clay at September 03, 2026 04:41 PM (nL2FN) 290
287 Ooops, when I said 'male Clancy supporters,' I meant those males who support a Clancy acquittal, not the supporters of Mr. Clancy, a victim in this case.
Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:40 PM (Jr5Lq) Well, there's a majority of males on the jury who seem to think so...and the holdout may not be male, so it could be 100% of men. Posted by: Nova Local at September 03, 2026 04:41 PM (tOcjL) 291
When has an insanity case ever produced something beneficial to society or civilization?
Will this woman go on to invent cold fusion? She is a menace and should be put down. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 03, 2026 04:41 PM (C/aDH) 292
Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers, often linked to motives of revenge and control."
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (g47mK) 293
Every daughter needs at least four brothers. She'll grow up based & take no shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (S+dwn) Didn't work for my mom. She was the baby of five. She was always, and remained, the princess. Which is why she hated kids. We certainly cramped her style. Not really her fault, I suppose, but attitude is everything in dealing with stress, and her attitude.... Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (460M+) 294
Except a bunch on people on Insty, and a bunch of YouTubers, and probably the section of the Manosphere whose creed is All Women Are Like That.
Yeah there are at least as many "all women are bad" woman haters as there are "all men are bad" man haters out there. You just don't get any men on the fringes yelling "you go dude!" to the man-haters, really. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (K32Fz) 295
Can we get realistic on one thing? The "copycat" story about family annihilators is going to turn out like the black church burning stories of many years ago. MSM cited every burning of a black church as if it was some new white supremacy campaign. It turned out black churches were burning at the same rate as ever along with every kind of old building, including white churches. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (mmrXZ) 296
Every daughter needs at least four brothers. She'll grow up based & take no shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:36 PM (S+dwn) ---------------- My daughter has four older brother. Yes, she is based. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (2UnvF) 297
A fringe movement doesn't get 11-1. Posted by: ace at September 03, 2026 04:16 PM (1wjle) It's Massachusetts.. Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (+gK6I) 298
292 1920s men. Weakest mother-fuckers in American History.
I blame a lot of shit on 1920s men. Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:41 PM (HmdlD) My grandfather fought in WW1 with his three brothers. Married my grandmother in 1922. They had three children and raised them through the Great Depression. What's this bullshit talk about 1920's men? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (l3cgK) 299
Several copy cats already.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:35 PM (uhVAy) Kailey Erhart stabby stabbed her 3 little kids, two of them are dead. Early August, North Dakota. Posted by: Just a little stabby-poo no big deal at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (TbWk/) 300
When has an insanity case ever produced something beneficial to society or civilization?
Will this woman go on to invent cold fusion? She is a menace and should be put down. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone Many states still had crime of passion defense statues on the books into the 70s. Those at least make some sense tho. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (YZ0Fo) 301
I guess all the above?
Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (hgcpL) It's a conditioned response developed from a decade of Critical Everything Theory. She's clearly evil. Everything evil is good. Therefore she should be applauded and celebrated and protected from Oppression. She's the victim. She deserves compensation. It's everyone's fault but hers. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (Ot/FD) 302
Instead of putting the measure to a vote, the city filed suit against the organizers, including Carrie Schmidt, Kimberly Twente, and the nonprofit Public Trust Collective. The city argues that the petition is legally and factually defective and is asking the court to invalidate it.
Man those Silicon Valley bribes must be sweet. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (K32Fz) 303
I just dont know how this is being framed to the jury.
I also think we need to change the laws where insanity is simply no longer a defense for murder. But that's not happening anytime soon. Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (hgcpL) 304
If it's 11-1 ng then the men aren't looking hot either
Posted by: ... at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (PFPLb) 305
Were getting closer and closer to Philip K. Dicks reality here.
The Pre-Persons is no longer satire. If it ever was. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 03, 2026 04:43 PM (kYmoU) 306
It would be a better world if all high profile jury trials had to meet horde approval before being released.
Make them run their decision past us. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (bOXl3) 307
>Make sure you don't leave your feet hanging out. That's how they get ya.
Posted by: BruceWayne ----- good tip I am kinda long Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (ZxPkt) 308
The EU has blocked Brazilian beef from European markets over concerns of antibiotics and growth hormones.
This is probably going to reflect poorly on President Lula, since he is already sinking in the polls against Boslinaro the Younger. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (rbvCR) 309
There is data for everything...
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (g47mK) 310
297 Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers, often linked -to motives of revenge and control."
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (g47mK) My son's baby-momma is preventing him from seeing his own son. We are taking that little white-trash pothead to court over this. She doesn't even take care of the kid--her stepmom does most of the child care, so the case should be pretty straightforward, but of course she will lie to get her way. She is just using my grandbaby as a weapon to punish my son for not becoming the sugar daddy she wanted, so she could sit around all day stoned and never have to lift a finger. Now, as to my son sticking his dick in crazy.... Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (460M+) 311
I am kinda long
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (ZxPkt The Paolo he, how you say, understands Posted by: Paolo at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM (PFPLb) 312
I'll do you one better. In less than a year she will be pregnant.
I read about a murder case a while back. Family has 3 kids, woman kills all three. She's found not guilty due to insanity and put in an institution. The institution lets her free, she's cured! She finds a new guy, has 3 more kids and... kills them. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (K32Fz) 313
303: jim (in Kalifornia)
Meh. This poster was sneering that Fen a 'feminist' above. Don't give its posts too much thought. It's just vomiting out garbage now. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (sAmhv) 314
I'll do you one better. In less than a year she will be pregnant.
Posted by: Orson at September 03, 2026 04:39 PM (dIske) Connie Fisher. Killed her three kids. Found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. Was released. Had three more kids. Killed them too. Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (wGerL) 315
Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers, often linked to motives of revenge and control."
Posted by: runner It runs almost 50-50. Women under 5 yrs old. Men over 5 yrs old. And then there's the female that shot her child so the father couldn't get him. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (S+dwn) 316
Now you know why I abolished jury trials in Singapore. Posted by: Zombie Lee Kuan Yew! ================ The judges in the UK who have been releasing rapists because the well-intentioned guests didn't understand the subtle nuances of English law are no better. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (mmrXZ) 317
I catch up on the comments reading from the bottom up.
You people never make any sense that way, but it makes me think more. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (bOXl3) 318
316 297 Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers, often linked -to motives of revenge and control."
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:42 PM (g47mK) I bet most killings of babies up to a few hours old are due to single mothers... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (l3cgK) 319
Let me know if you think I'm right.
Just to let you know - I don't think you're right. I think Big Pharma and its incompetent minions are getting the same pass that's been given the Big Pharma Jab-makers, and Dr. Fauci's Deep State choir. Clancy was on the road to recovery when Tufts (and a couple others) started jamming her full of SSRIs and everything else she could think of. Is Clancy an angel? Is she heroic? No; the case is a tragedy beyond Shakespearean proportions. There's enough responsibility to go around several times. But I disagree she is lawfully guilty of murder. Posted by: Handcuffed to the Bumper of a State Trooper's Ford at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (DDWHE) 320
Absolutely no man would defend another man that did this. No matter how far left or right person was.
Thats the difference. Women are unhappy about (insert latest grievance) but that does not give them a blank check. What do you want to bet this woman was an absolute entitled c*nt on everything in life? This was not a one off. Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (hgcpL) 321
There is a study from 2014, specific to the US, 32 years of data, very depressing.
Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (g47mK) 322
I don't like the insanity dodge. Doesn't change the fact that she killed 3 kids. Punish the act.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (ZxPkt) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (Cqx++) 324
Even worse than I thought.
In a blue hellhole like Massachusetts, I thought more than half of the women wanted to let her murder her children. But its FUCKING ELEVEN OF THEM!?!??!! We cannot share a country with these people anymore. Posted by: DudeAbiding at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (lCHt6) 325
Another new thing from the past few decades:
Female teachers molesting their students. == It has become epidemic. Posted by: Lady in Black at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (qBdHI) 326
It runs almost 50-50.
Women under 5 yrs old. Men over 5 yrs old. And then there's the female that shot her child so the father couldn't get him. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (S+dwn) which study ? Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (g47mK) 327
Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:34 PM (HmdlD)
Try again Howdy .. Doody. I said I was a feminist decades ago when it meant women should be paid for equal work as men. I am totally against DEI I DO Not believe women are better than men and I have said Clancy need to be In Prison for the rest of her life or a mental institution without parole because I don't think MA has the death penalty . She is an evil person. And sisterhood of the vagina just sounds stupid LOL Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 04:47 PM (y8wRt) 328
I read about a murder case a while back. Family has 3 kids, woman kills all three. She's found not guilty due to insanity and put in an institution. The institution lets her free, she's cured! She finds a new guy, has 3 more kids and... kills them.
== Almost - she had the next three with the SAME DUDE as the first three. They patched it up. She was "cured". Then she killed the second set of three. Rule 1. Posted by: As good as it gets at September 03, 2026 04:47 PM (anL5R) 329
500 quatloos there will not be a retrial. Childless dyke Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey will apply pressure using cutouts (cutouts? yeah, Senator, cutouts!) to force the local prosecutor to give up.
Posted by: Gref at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (5rh/l) 330
Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers
That makes sense, and I believe that it is true. Which is, I think, why people are reacting so viscerally to this one. Mommy did WHAT? Its like the videos of women pretending to drop their chidren off ledges and balconies for tik tok, or the women cracking eggs off the head of their toddler watching them bake. "Hee hee kids can be so frustrating an they take away ME time!" This from the nurturing, family-building mommy just seems so horrifying and against everything reality is built upon. Its like finding out your little kid is a Deep One or something. That's just not how anything is supposed to work. The angles are all wrong. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (K32Fz) 331
and what the frack is a forensic astrology chart? I feel like someone is going to have to explain it to me like I'm Ice-T on SVU.
https://tinyurl.com/4fz8j3ac Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (Iwv3U) 332
329 I don't like the insanity dodge. Doesn't change the fact that she killed 3 kids. Punish the act.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (ZxPkt) Many parents accidentally kill their kids...running them over with their car in the driveway, leaving them in the car, failing to watch them as they get in the family pool and drown... We don't charge them for murder b/c they didn't have the mental intent to kill their kids. Sometimes, we don't charge them at all. But we see the tragedy of the kids' pointless death... Posted by: Nova Local at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (tOcjL) 333
Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers, often linked -to motives of revenge and control."
== And I'm not justifying it, but I bet 90% of the time, it's some dad that was angry and say smacked a kid too hard and they died. And the difference is, no guy would somehow think a dad gets to walk even if they accidentally killed their child. Thats not what happened here. Premediated murder, waited until the husband left. Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (hgcpL) 334
Juries are by definition one of the least representative samples of a population possible.
They're purposefully hand picked to be as unrepresentative as possible. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (Ot/FD) 335
Far too much mercy and forgiveness these days. People need to be held responsible for the shit they pull, no exceptions.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (ZxPkt) 336
I read about a murder case a while back. Family has 3 kids, woman kills all three. She's found not guilty due to insanity and put in an institution. The institution lets her free, she's cured! She finds a new guy, has 3 more kids and... kills them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (K32Fz) -------------- That was in this morning's Morning Report except it was with the same guy. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (2UnvF) 337
320 What's this bullshit talk about 1920's men?
Because 1920's men signed off on women voting. Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (HmdlD) THATS FUNNY BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT PASSED THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN THE LATE TEENS. Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (l3cgK) 338
runs almost 50-50.
Women under 5 yrs old. Men over 5 yrs old. And then there's the female that shot her child so the father couldn't get him. Posted by: rickb223 True family annihilators think Chris Benoit. Kids, spouse, self. Are all almost men. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (YZ0Fo) 339
She should be placed in an iron coffin, with spikes on the inside.
Posted by: toby928(c) at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (4NO2D) 340
Almost - she had the next three with the SAME DUDE as the first three. They patched it up. She was "cured". Then she killed the second set of three.
You see, if I wrote a book about that scenario, reviewers would call it unrealistic and misogynist. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:49 PM (K32Fz) 341
Jeffery Dahmer was convicted. Granted, didn't end "well" for him; how is post-partum worse then that freak?
Posted by: pahound at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (AjR4+) 342
There was a recent family murder in Billings MT. Guy killed four kids, four adults, all relatives, and set fire to the house. He was a kook who was described as a hermit with a lot of red flags.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (PSEDc) 343
She killed her helpless children. Period. Motivation, excuses, matter not. If the judge wants to entertain sentencing arguments, that is another matter. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (XeU6L) 344
Because 1920's men signed off on women voting. Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:45 PM (HmdlD) _________ Women's suffrage in some way and at some level was already widespread, especially in the western states, by the time the 19th was ratified. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (eRlcH) Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (Jr5Lq) 346
Speaking of the state of women, has anyone noticed that it somehow became normal to sell vibrators in mainstream stores? CVS, Walmart, Target, Walgreens, and more all have them now.
Not a single one of those stores carry "self-pleasure" devices for men. Posted by: bonhomme at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (mkw2N) 347
Punish the act. Posted by: Don Black =============== A stance that is both arguable and debatable. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (rbvCR) 349
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No one except the jurors knows what this means -- what the 11 want and what the 1 wants. There's my brilliant analysis. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 04:05 PM (mmrXZ) Assuming one or more of the jurors sympathetic to Clancy haven't gotten details on deliberations to the defense Posted by: Gref at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (5rh/l) 350
338 and what the frack is a forensic astrology chart? I feel like someone is going to have to explain it to me like I'm Ice-T on SVU.
https://tinyurl.com/4fz8j3ac Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at September 03, 2026 04:48 PM (Iwv3U) Dunno, but there IS forensic astronomy. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (l3cgK) 351
Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers
I wonder how that tilts if you factor in abortion. We don't charge them for murder b/c they didn't have the mental intent to kill their kids. Sometimes, we don't charge them at all. Being insane doesn't eliminate intent. It might eliminate understanding but you still did it, on purpose. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (K32Fz) 352
Far too much mercy and forgiveness these days. People need to be held responsible for the shit they pull, no exceptions.
-- Agree 100%. Responsibility for one's actions seems to not exist anymore. There's always something/someone else to blame. It's all the rage right now, which makes total sense in a country that has marinated in victim culture. Posted by: Lady in Black at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (qBdHI) 353
Yeah. Nah.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (sF7PK) 354
332 Another new thing from the past few decades:
Female teachers molesting their students. == It has become epidemic. Posted by: Lady in Black at September 03, 2026 04:46 PM (qBdHI) Why assume pedophilia is strictly a male thing? And pedophiles go where the kids are. Where better than a school? Had a horndog teacher in Jr. High. He was really a perv. Liked to have the girls sit on his lap. Total creep. I believe he retired at full pension and age. Nothing was ever done to get rid of him. I suspect many people have the same stories. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:52 PM (460M+) 355
359 Statistically , most filicides are committed by fathers, not mothers, "Studies indicate that about 68% of filicide cases are perpetrated by fathers
I wonder how that tilts if you factor in abortion. We don't charge them for murder b/c they didn't have the mental intent to kill their kids. Sometimes, we don't charge them at all. Being insane doesn't eliminate intent. It might eliminate understanding but you still did it, on purpose. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:51 PM (K32Fz) From a legal perspective, it does. You can't form intent if you are not mentally competent... Posted by: Nova Local at September 03, 2026 04:52 PM (tOcjL) 356
Isnt funny the one thing women are terrible at when it comes to killing is themselves?
The jumping out the window was so she wouldnt have to face consequences. If she was so disturbed, why not start there instead of killing 3 kids first? Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:52 PM (hgcpL) 357
No one except the jurors knows what this means -- what the 11 want and what the 1 wants.
There's my brilliant analysis. Posted by: Blonde Morticia ....... All 12 want to write books about it and make bank. Posted by: wth at September 03, 2026 04:53 PM (UjdFS) 358
which study ?
Posted by: runner A Review of Maternal and Paternal Filicide https://tinyurl.com/mwzwdpwn Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:53 PM (S+dwn) 359
She planned and executed (literally) the most heinous crime imaginable,
We've all fantasized about strangling our children in front of each other, but only I had the guts to do it! The Searchlight Strangler tried, but hit himself in the eye. You need me in that basement with the exercise bands! You're damn right I ordered the kids dead! Posted by: Colonel Nathan Jessup at September 03, 2026 04:53 PM (EGAVS) 360
Not a single one of those stores carry "self-pleasure" devices for men.
Nor should they. Or for women. But "wand massagers" have been sold for a long time. This is like the porn business. Guys' porn is sold behind a counter, behind a screen, in shady places. Women's porn is sold in the airport as a "bodice ripper." Men's porn is shameful and read in secret, they hide the magazine. Women read their porn right out on the beach in public. Definitely double standards at work here. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (K32Fz) 361
364 Isnt funny the one thing women are terrible at when it comes to killing is themselves?
The jumping out the window was so she wouldnt have to face consequences. If she was so disturbed, why not start there instead of killing 3 kids first? Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 04:52 PM (hgcpL) From my understanding, women tend to slit their wrists or use poison. Men tend to use guns. A shot to the head is a lot less survivable, in general, than poisoning or slitting wrists, if caught early enough. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (l3cgK) 362
A Review of Maternal and Paternal Filicide
https://tinyurl.com/mwzwdpwn Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:53 PM (S+dwn) "Telegraphed the ending, but the special effects were admirable. Three Stars." Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (Ot/FD) 363
Isnt funny the one thing women are terrible at when it comes to killing is themselves?
If you want to be successful, you take the razor blade and cut down the street, not across the tracks. Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:55 PM (S+dwn) 364
It would be a better world if all high profile jury trials had to meet horde approval before being released.
Make them run their decision past us. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM Or run a gauntlet after. Posted by: toby928(c) at September 03, 2026 04:55 PM (4NO2D) 365
Nor should they. Or for women. But "wand massagers" have been sold for a long time.
This is like the porn business. Guys' porn is sold behind a counter, behind a screen, in shady places. Women's porn is sold in the airport as a "bodice ripper." Men's porn is shameful and read in secret, they hide the magazine. Women read their porn right out on the beach in public. Definitely double standards at work here. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor Tbf you could get porno mags at the airport for a loooooong time. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 04:55 PM (YZ0Fo) 366
From a legal perspective, it does. You can't form intent if you are not mentally competent...
But they obviously formed intent. That's why they did it: they intended to do so. That's how the will works. They might not understand what they are doing or why but they intended to do it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (K32Fz) 367
There was a recent family murder in Billings MT. Guy killed four kids, four adults, all relatives, and set fire to the house. He was a kook who was described as a hermit with a lot of red flags.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 03, 2026 04:50 PM (PSEDc) Seems like a lot of people around for a hermit. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (uhVAy) 368
Post on X says that the jury has been sent home so, if true, no verdict today. Insane.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (ExV1e) 369
369 Not a single one of those stores carry "self-pleasure" devices for men.
Nor should they. Or for women. But "wand massagers" have been sold for a long time. This is like the porn business. Guys' porn is sold behind a counter, behind a screen, in shady places. Women's porn is sold in the airport as a "bodice ripper." Men's porn is shameful and read in secret, they hide the magazine. Women read their porn right out on the beach in public. Definitely double standards at work here. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (K32Fz) Wasn't there some sort of vulvazella sold and used at the World Cup when it was held in South Africa? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (l3cgK) 370
@185,
Not in Massachusetts. There are two scenarios for insanity - inability to know right from wrong and inability to resist an action. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (JT2CP) 371
She killed her helpless children. Period.
Motivation, excuses, matter not. If the judge wants to entertain sentencing arguments, that is another matter. == I tend to see insanity as being a dodge. Technically it should be that you don't have the requisite mental intent (the guilty mind) to be held accountable for murder. (I thought I was shooting a bear, turns out I was hallucinating, it wasn't a bear. Well if the jury believes that shit, you really didn't intend to kill a human, and you have a brain tumor that causes hallucinations I can see letting you off and signing you up for neurosurgery.) That's not this case. Posted by: As good as it gets at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (anL5R) 372
If she was so disturbed, why not start there instead of killing 3 kids first?
Posted by: Sharpie Because she was so mentally disturbed she didn't think of that. But sometimes mentally disturbed people are very calculating, like when she did research on strangulation and lied to her counselors, and shopped for drugs. Basically whatever she did or failed to do is unfalsifiable evidence she's not mentally competent. Posted by: Defense Mental Health Expert at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (EGAVS) 373
Frau Goebbels in the movie Downfall.
Posted by: davidt at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (Q+gd/) 374
A Review of Maternal and Paternal Filicide
https://tinyurl.com/mwzwdpwn Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:53 PM (S+dwn) *quick review 2007, used data outside the US Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 04:57 PM (g47mK) 375
378 Ha!
Posted by: gp at September 03, 2026 04:57 PM (Jr5Lq) 376
Isnt funny the one thing women are terrible at when it comes to killing is themselves?
I have read, and do not know if this is accurate or not, that women tend to want to avoid looking messy and ugly when they die, so they try to find ways that won't involve that. So no shotgun to the chin like Kurt Cobain, for example. Might be why that happens. I also read that every single failed suicide attempt that people were able to get interviews with afterward said that they instantly regretted the attempt. Like "oh crap I shouldn't have jumped out of that window." Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:58 PM (K32Fz) 377
Since when does mommy get ME time? Kids are 24/7/365.
But this bitch had a nanny, and parents who would take the kids, and all sorts of support. She HAD ME time. And she still chose to kill her kids. FFS, give 'em up for adoption or something. Did she think that killing them would set her free? Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:58 PM (460M+) 378
195 the Tube of Ewes
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (ksbjf) heh Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 04:58 PM (odBC9) 379
As a parent, I can't get past this:
She strangled her own children, one at a time, them not understanding why their protector was killing them. I don't give a fuck about her mental state. She needs to be put down. And her supporters should end themselves. Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 04:59 PM (+e6QC) 380
If women can kill children 'cause they have a case of the sads from their hormones, then men should be free to rape women 'cause they have a case of the hornys from their hormones.
Fair is fair. Stupid bitches; making me think the muslims have the right idea toward them. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 03, 2026 04:59 PM (3cUTc) 381
I have read, and do not know if this is accurate or not, that women tend to want to avoid looking messy and ugly when they die, so they try to find ways that won't involve that. _________ Men do it to do it. Women do it to fail at doing it. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 04:59 PM (eRlcH) 382
Men do it to do it.
Women do it to fail at doing it. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh And sometimes they screw that up too. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (YZ0Fo) 383
I tend to see insanity as being a dodge. Technically it should be that you don't have the requisite mental intent (the guilty mind) to be held accountable for murder. (I thought I was shooting a bear, turns out I was hallucinating, it wasn't a bear. Well if the jury believes that shit, you really didn't intend to kill a human, and you have a brain tumor that causes hallucinations I can see letting you off and signing you up for neurosurgery.) That's not this case.
Posted by: As good as it gets at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (anL5R) it started out as a dodge. Congressman Sickles heard his wife was sleeping with US Atty Key, a relative/descentant of Francis Scott Key, went across town and plugged him. Smart lawyer got him off on temporary insanity. Lawyer was E. M. Stanton, later Secretary of War. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (uhVAy) 384
204 If some white thug does a bunch of angel dust and runs into a bunch of cops with a machete screaming I AM A GOLDEN PHARAOH, and gets plugged, nobody sane is going to defend him.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 03, 2026 04:29 PM (88C+u) A+ for creativity! Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (odBC9) 385
373 It would be a better world if all high profile jury trials had to meet horde approval before being released.
Make them run their decision past us. Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 04:44 PM Or run a gauntlet after. Posted by: toby928(c) at September 03, 2026 04:55 PM (4NO2D) A jury of your peers? When the general jury pool is half-female and recent studies find a considerable number of women now suffer from one or more mental problems, how can a fair and impartial jury be seated for women accused of crimes, whose defense plays the feeelz card? We're doomed. Posted by: Gref at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (5rh/l) 386
But this bitch had a nanny, and parents who would take the kids, and all sorts of support. She HAD ME time. And she still chose to kill her kids.
Yeah I am sure we do not have the full story but from what I have read, the husband did everything imaginable to make her feel more comfortable, happy, and loved. He figured out how to spend money so she could quit her job, even. But you cannot love someone out of being crazy. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (K32Fz) 387
Too bad she didn't face plant instead of back flop.
Posted by: wth That face looks like it face planted. Hard. Multiple times. Posted by: The Dog at September 03, 2026 05:01 PM (XodLO) 388
Did the defense say whether Clancy thought her kids were demon possessed or otherwise deserving in her mind to be killed?
That at least would be a possible reasonable doubt whether she knew right from wrong. If she had a reason why killing them was justified in her mind. Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:01 PM (KC5Lt) 389
Her defense attorney is widely regarded as a elite trial lawyer—among less than 1% of attorneys in North America named to the prestigious American College of Trial Lawyers.
The defense team presented medical experts stating she suffered from severe postpartum psychosis and was compelled by auditory hallucinations. (Of course THAT COMMUNITY doesn't want to be indicted via the trial.) On Monday morning, lawyer Reddington publicly discussed comments made by Nancy Grace over the weekend. He requested that a specific juror be removed, claiming they refused to follow the law regarding reasonable doubt. Judge William Sullivan denied this request and ordered the full 12-person jury to continue deliberating. Reportedly, (CNN) when Reddington was asked by reporters how he felt about a potential retrial, confidently responded, “Bring it.” Bet those jurors are known. NHS UK: The most severe symptoms of Postpartum psychosis tend to last 2 to 12 weeks. It can take 6 to 12 months or more to recover completely from the condition. Lindsay Clancy looks deranged. She suffered a Jefferson burst fracture when she fell to the ground; most people can successfully recuperate. Posted by: L - No nic... at September 03, 2026 05:01 PM (NFX2v) 390
I hadn't realized how successful this defense approach has been over the years. These are just two high profile cases where the guilty verdict was overturned. You have to wonder how many of these took place....and how it will effect other cases both past and present.
Andrea Yates (2001): A Texas mother who drowned her five children was initially convicted of capital murder. That conviction was later overturned on appeal, and a second jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity .Sheryl Lynn Massip (1987): A California jury convicted a mother of second-degree murder after she claimed postpartum psychosis, though the judge later set the verdict aside and she was ultimately found insane Posted by: Orson at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (dIske) 391
This woman needs put down in a random, shallow ditch in the deep woods, some dirt kicked over her but not enough to keep the wild animals away.
She deserves neither our sympathy nor society. Jesus loves her but mankind doesn't need her among us. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (3cUTc) 392
But you cannot love someone out of being crazy. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:00 PM (K32Fz) __________ *shudders at reminisce* This is true. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (eRlcH) 393
Since when does mommy get ME time? Kids are 24/7/365.
But this bitch had a nanny, and parents who would take the kids, and all sorts of support. She HAD ME time. And she still chose to kill her kids. FFS, give 'em up for adoption or something. Did she think that killing them would set her free? Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 04:58 PM (460M+) Guess what she spent her "ME" time doing? Doctor shopping, planning the murder, etc etc etc. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (uhVAy) 394
If some white thug does a bunch of angel dust and runs into a bunch of cops with a machete screaming I AM A GOLDEN PHARAOH, and gets plugged, nobody sane is going to defend him.
"you show no empathy, and this is the problem with MAGA. A good Christian would care for this poor Golden Pharaoh like the Samaritan did for the poor man on the side of the road. Those police should have shot for the foot or used their hands to disarm this poor man." --David French Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (K32Fz) 395
Must have been her time of the month.
Posted by: Juror #12 at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (UjdFS) 396
But they obviously formed intent. That's why they did it: they intended to do so. That's how the will works. They might not understand what they are doing or why but they intended to do it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:56 PM (K32Fz) So, in the Catholic Church, a sin may be mortal or it may be venial, but it is still a sin. For a sin to be mortal, it must be a serious matter (not a trivial one), you must have full consent of your will (not coerced, or crazy), and you must know it is a sin in the first place. Otherwise, it may be venial, which is not cause for exclusion from the Beatific Vision. That's why most suicides now get a Catholic funeral and burial, because one needs to be crazy to commit the act itself. Not all, but most. That also does not mean one is exempt from criminal punishment for actions. Often the granting of absolution is tied to turning yourself into the cops and taking your civil punishment. No murderer would be absolved without facing the civil music. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (460M+) 397
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Wasn't there some sort of vulvazella sold and used at the World Cup when it was held in South Africa? vulvazilla > vulvazella Posted by: anachronda at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (v3pYe) 398
> But "wand massagers" have been sold for a long time.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure they weren't in mainstream stores. The most mainstream store would be places like Spencer's Gifts. Otherwise you'd have to go to a sex shop or a convenience store near the highway. Posted by: bonhomme at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (mkw2N) 399
She watched Sophie's Choice and didn't get it at all.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (Ot/FD) 400
217 It's becoming a thing.
Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more? Kimberlee Singler (CO '23) - 2 kids (9& 7) Jennifer Stately (MN '24) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Janette MacAusland(MA 26) - 2 kids (7&6) Hailey Dempsey (FL '26) - 2 kids (4 & 4mo) Marlene Vidal (TX '26) - 2 kids (6 & 5) Sarah Myers (NY '26) - 4 kids (13, 11, 10, 10) Kailey Erhart (ND '26) - 2 kids (3 & 5mo) We need a wellness check for every home that has Clancy supporters Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 04:30 PM (S+dwn) Jeez. Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (odBC9) 401
The Karens and AWFLs are a powerful cabal. Obey and yield to them, or they will scorn you forever.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2026 05:04 PM (vbXSk) 402
Yey me. Now for the three hour drive home.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2026 05:04 PM (S+dwn) 403
Posted by: Orson at September 03, 2026 05:02 PM (dIske)
I think in both those cases the defendant believed the kids were possessed. Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:04 PM (KC5Lt) 404
It would be interesting to know about the evil bitch's childhood. Was she raised to be a princess. A spoiled bitch who got everything she wanted? Posted by: four seasons at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (/QHx4) 405
When a woman does break bad, the system really does protect them like you wouldnt believe.
Posted by: Sharpie at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (9dTNV) 406
>>I was a feminist decades ago when it meant women should be paid for equal work as men.
__ I have always been on the fence with you and inclined to give you the benefit of any doubt. But knowing that you ever supported the Equal Pay Act resolves that doubt against you, FenelonSpoke. Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (+e6QC) Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (K32Fz) 408
From my understanding, women tend to slit their wrists or use poison. Men tend to use guns. A shot to the head is a lot less survivable, in general, than poisoning or slitting wrists, if caught early enough.
Posted by: jim Many times it's a cry for attention/sympathy from women, hence the shallow cuts and OD with minimal amount of drugs. A firearm to the head is a bit more permanent. Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (EGAVS) 409
Is she really paralyzed, or is she faking that too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (bOXl3) 410
You know what disgusts me the most about all the blame these women are passing around to everyone but the cold-blooded bitch murderer?
That she had a life of no wants or unmet needs--she was literally a princess in every way but title. And these ghoulish defenders--even as they're admitting that--justify her horrible evil by saying, "but she deserved more! (and I do too)." Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (3cUTc) 411
I wonder how many love letters Lindsay is getting in jail and how much money people are putting on her commissary?
Posted by: Honey Buns and Ramen Noodles at September 03, 2026 05:06 PM (xFvo2) 412
"Vulvazilla versus Clamera" was pretty good.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 03, 2026 05:06 PM (Ot/FD) 413
But you cannot love someone out of being crazy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I can fix her!!! Posted by: Soy Simps Everywhere at September 03, 2026 05:06 PM (EGAVS) 414
I have read, and do not know if this is accurate or not, that women tend to want to avoid looking messy and ugly when they die, so they try to find ways that won't involve that. So no shotgun to the chin like Kurt Cobain, for example. Might be why that happens.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 04:58 PM (K32Fz) Carl Benjamin when talking about the Clancy Cult women brought up a story from Plutarch and the Ancient Greece city of Miletus around 272 B.C. A young maiden committed suicide by hanging and it became a social trend for the young women of the city to hang themselves (because of all the attention they received). It went on for awhile and nobody could find a way to stop the girls until a city ordinance was passed that from hence forward any woman who committed suicide would have her naked body carried through the marketplace with the rope still around her neck and then her body would be hung to rot for all to see. The suicide spree ended immediately. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (6ydKt) 415
Could this be because the Juror cannot believe beyond a reasonable doubt that she was insaneo?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (mP0Kj) 416
Several copy cats already.
Posted by: Oldcat Dose it count as copycat if the perpetrator didn't use the same method as the original? Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (vJrRc) 417
Is she really paralyzed, or is she faking that too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (bOXl3) She’ll have a miraculous recovery after the trial. Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (KC5Lt) 418
Men do it to do it.
Women do it to fail at doing it. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2026 04:59 PM (eRlcH) They do it for attention and sympathy, not to successfully end their lives. Posted by: Very different motivations at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (TbWk/) 419
I think in both those cases the defendant believed the kids were possessed.
One of those might be the case where the woman had urges to kill her children so she... killed them to... keep them safe from her.... It makes sense if you take enough drugs, I guess. Must have been her time of the month. You jest but... isn't that her defense? Hormones gone wild? I mean women justly get really annoyed if you bring that up but this seems to be what women who support her are actually arguing. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (K32Fz) 420
We absolutely need to get rid of that "not guilty by reason of insanity" plea, and replace it with "guilty, and insane."
The perp did the deed, thus guilty. The perp is determined to not have been sane when doing so, thus insane. Maybe it forestalls, or prevents, an execution, but that perp should never never never never have a free breath again. Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 03, 2026 05:08 PM (bufu1) 421
It wasn't a dead boy or another woman. Putting my dime on She told someone to FO. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2026 0 -------------- There's a rumor she might be the new press secretary...... Posted by: beckster at September 03, 2026 05:08 PM (kX27y) 422
419 Is she really paralyzed, or is she faking that too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (bOXl3) BREAKING NEWS Lindsay Clancy, recently released from custody after prosecutors declined to re-try her, miraculously recovered use of her legs. Doctors said they didn't believe it was possible to recover from her paralysis, saying it is a miracle. Posted by: Gref at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (5rh/l) 423
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (+e6QC)
I didn't say I supported it. I can't even recall what it was. I said I think qualified women should be paid The same pay scale as men on the same level Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (wmzkx) 424
"Vulvazilla versus Clamera" was pretty good.
"I tell you we no make-uh those, gaijin!!!!" *swears in Japanese*" --Japanese Directors Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (K32Fz) 425
Several copy cats already.
Posted by: Oldcat Dose it count as copycat if the perpetrator didn't use the same method as the original? Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (vJrRc) Sure, why not. Not everyone wants to drive their car into a lake or jump out the window afterwards. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (uhVAy) 426
I don't like the insanity dodge. Doesn't change the fact that she killed 3 kids. Punish the act.
Posted by: Don Black I think everyone (here) can agree on that. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (vJrRc) 427
419 Is she really paralyzed, or is she faking that too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (bOXl3) If she really broke her C1 and had spinal cord damage, she would be a quadriplegic. She isn't. No idea why she is in a wheelchair except to elicit sympathy. Seems highly prejudicial. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (460M+) 428
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (+e6QC) ============== I didn't see Fen say that she supported the Equal Pay Act. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (mmrXZ) 429
423 But you cannot love someone out of being crazy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I can fix her!!! Posted by: Soy Simps Everywhere at September 03, 2026 05:06 PM (EGAVS) Personal experience has shown me the Cray Cray ones? are either really BAD in bed... or really great. They tend to end up on both extremes of the Good Sex Graph... Posted by: Romeo13 at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (mP0Kj) 430
There's a rumor she might be the new press secretary......
Posted by: beckster at September 03, 2026 05:08 PM (kX27y) Mari-aaaa! Posted by: runner at September 03, 2026 05:10 PM (g47mK) 431
This won’t be the first mother who killed her kid that a retarded jury let free and she didn’t even claim she was insane.
Casey Anthony. She should rot in hell along with the jurors. Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:10 PM (KC5Lt) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2026 05:10 PM (wmzkx) 433
419 Is she really paralyzed, or is she faking that too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) Judge- On the count of Murder 1, the jury finds you not guilty Mein Honor, I can walk!!!! (Lindsay, standing) Posted by: Dr. Lindsay Strangemotherlylove at September 03, 2026 05:10 PM (EGAVS) 434
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Wasn't there some sort of vulvazella sold and used at the World Cup when it was held in South Africa? vulvazilla > vulvazella Posted by: anachronda at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (v3pYe) In Sweden it's a Volvozela Posted by: Highly dependable! at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (TbWk/) 435
We absolutely need to get rid of that "not guilty by reason of insanity" plea, and replace it with "guilty, and insane."
And get rid of the "not competent to stand trial". I don't care how nuts you are, you don't need to know what is going on. Sane people don't know what is going on in a trial half the time. This is about justice, not how well you figure out what is happening, we hire experts to represent us for a reason. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (K32Fz) 436
I would say unreal but is Assachsets.
Jury intimidation by the crazy woman yesterday taking photos should have been reason enough for a mistrial. Plus the two? female jurors who wore pink proudly to unite with the crazy women outside. Fair trial my fat arse. Is it a common thing for a defense attorney to ask for the removal of a juror because they disagree with the defense? This "mother," at the very least, should be locked up in a mental hospital for the rest of her life. And I hope sees the sweet faces of her own children she snuffed out every time she closes her eyes. Her "suicide" was faked. Then to find out her mother or MIL helped daily, plus a nanny, plus the older two kids in daycare/preschool...well, that slanted me further away from her postpartum psychosis when the baby was 8mo old. She had plenty of help vs normal mothers. Plenty of time to rest for those 8mo. She's intelligent enough to fake whatever answers she gave. I read the first things she said to her husband, as she lay on the ground, were if her legs were straight. Not of her children she just killed. In ICU one of her first comments was to ask if she had an attorney. Not grief. Thinking of #1. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (hzuYO) 437
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 03, 2026 05:05 PM (bOXl3)
I don't ever want to hear about true-crime mommies or whatever. Her spinal cord was severed. This was discovered and known in the ER. There were scans. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (uS0pW) 438
436 I don't like the insanity dodge. Doesn't change the fact that she killed 3 kids. Punish the act.
Posted by: Don Black I think everyone (here) can agree on that. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:09 PM (vJrRc) Yup... just like 'hate crimes'... punish the act, not the thought behind it, because we cannot KNOW the actual thought behind the act. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (mP0Kj) 439
Virginia mother of FIVE has been CONVICTED of a crime, sentenced to 6 months in jail, and placed on the CHILD ABUSE REGISTRY for 7 years because she let her 5-year-old son walk half a mile to the pond in their GATED community to collect goose feathers.
If only she'd strangled him. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (ExV1e) 440
I just want to jump in here and say "I don't like Scogg-Dog". And I'm in charge.
Posted by: Fenelon at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (HmdlD) Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (ZxPkt) 442
You jest but... isn't that her defense? Hormones gone wild? I mean women justly get really annoyed if you bring that up but this seems to be what women who support her are actually arguing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I think the actual lawyer are arguing it was the drugs. Don't know about the TikTok nutcases. Says more about them than anyone else. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (vJrRc) Posted by: man at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (XuXeR) 444
And you can't stand that.
Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (HmdlD) You are fabulous, Honey. Just fabulous. It rolls off of you like that Chypre you douse yourself in. It makes you soooo butch. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (rbvCR) 445
No idea why she is in a wheelchair except to elicit sympathy. Seems highly prejudicial.
I am willing to buy that she messed her back up so bad she can't walk but it does smack of that scene in Casino where all the mobsters showed up in wheelchairs with oxygen tanks. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (K32Fz) 446
You jest but... isn't that her defense? Hormones gone wild? I mean women justly get really annoyed if you bring that up but this seems to be what women who support her are actually arguing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (K32Fz) I think most are too incoherent to get that far and stick on the 'husband did it' , 'husband must have had an affair first' , or 'husband was the voice somehow' without trying to carry on the entire process to its logical conclusion. Just 'she's a mommy, so am I, get emotional' Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (uhVAy) Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (36x1j) 448
444 378
Wasn't there some sort of vulvazella sold and used at the World Cup when it was held in South Africa? vulvazilla > vulvazella Posted by: anachronda at September 03, 2026 05:03 PM (v3pYe) In Sweden it's a Volvozela Posted by: Highly dependable! at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (TbWk/) I think they spell it "vuvuzela." But I don't know exactly where that would be, anatomy-wise. I'm fairly certain I don't have one, anyway. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (460M+) Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (KC5Lt) 450
To me most guilty people are insane, or just evil so either way they are guilty.
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (Ia/+0) 451
I don't think it's known that it's 11-1 for acquittal, just that 1 is refusing to follow judge's instructions on what reasonable doubt is.
Could it also be they are willing to convict on the lesser charges but not the big one? Posted by: Lex at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (y4H1r) 452
You are fabulous, Honey. Just fabulous. It rolls off of you like that Chypre you douse yourself in.
It makes you soooo butch. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM It's always 5'oclock somewhere. Posted by: toby928(c) at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (4NO2D) 453
I’m going to pray hard tonight for all those kiddos.
And also all the moms who struggle with mental health issues. What a horrible state of mind to be in, to kill your children. What evil has infected them? So sad. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (W2Pud) 454
American College of Trial Lawyers."
SEC, Big 10, ACC? Posted by: man at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (XuXeR) Can't wait for the transfer portal there. Alabama gains 20 yards! Auburns Left Attorney sues to block the play, and a Hawaiian judge concurs! Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (uhVAy) 455
You are fabulous, Honey. Just fabulous. It rolls off of you like that Chypre you douse yourself in.
It makes you soooo butch. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (rbvCR) White Knight on cat. White Knight on. Posted by: Fenelon at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (HmdlD) Posted by: man at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (XuXeR) 457
454 And you can't stand that.
Posted by: Howdy at September 03, 2026 04:54 PM (HmdlD) You are fabulous, Honey. Just fabulous. It rolls off of you like that Chypre you douse yourself in. It makes you soooo butch. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 05:12 PM (rbvCR) He is quite the cutie, isn't he? Posted by: tcn in AK at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (460M+) 458
And I hope sees the sweet faces of her own children she snuffed out every time she closes her eyes.
How could you not? How could the awful look in their eyes crying "mommy why??" not be seared into your mind forever? The betrayal and the confusion, the horror in their eyes as their life drains slowly away Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (K32Fz) 459
noodtucker
Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (odBC9) 460
I read the first things she said to her husband, as she lay on the ground, were if her legs were straight. Not of her children she just killed.
In ICU one of her first comments was to ask if she had an attorney. Not grief. Thinking of #1. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat Lindsay- I needed to think of the family, and put them first. Husband- but you only asked about yourself Lindsay- my kids are dead and you're divorcing me! I am my family! Posted by: South Park Joke with minor adjustment at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (EGAVS) 461
Everybody wants to play mindgames about her mental 'state' and word games about the 'law'.
Let the jury clean up the bodies at the site of the murders, let's not call EMTs for someone who jumped off a building and slashed her wrists, and let's see what shapes reality. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (C/aDH) 462
You jest but... isn't that her defense? Hormones gone wild? I mean women justly get really annoyed if you bring that up but this seems to be what women who support her are actually arguing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:07 PM (K32Fz) Psychosis -- Not depression. Those women in pink don't know what they're talking about. Posted by: LASue at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (lCppi) 463
White Knight on cat. White Knight on.
Posted by: Fenelon at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (HmdlD) Whoopsie, someone forget to change their nick Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (K32Fz) 464
451 Vuvuzela
most annoying sound in the world Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 05:11 PM (ZxPkt) Hey, can I help it if I enjoy sex? Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 03, 2026 05:15 PM (Ucgf4) 465
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 03, 2026 04:28 PM (cpFbA)
The Twitter-verse has been explicitly arguing that an insanity defense *is* an acquittal. That's why I'm saying you can't trust the characterization of it as an acquittal. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (uS0pW) 466
just that 1 is refusing to follow judge's instructions on what reasonable doubt is.
Could it also be they are willing to convict on the lesser charges but not the big one? Posted by: Lex Yeah, if it's just "refusing to follow instructions on what reasonable doubt is" is could just as easily be 11 in favor of conviction and one with an astrology chart. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (vJrRc) 467
>I didn't say I supported it. I can't even recall what it was. I said I think qualified women should be paid The same pay scale as men on the same level>
----- That's exactly the sheepskin that supporters of the EPA wore. Equity. No account for differences in gender, such as drive, aggression or pregnancy down time. You're an idiot. And you've proven it. Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (+e6QC) 468
"Did you know in the United States after Lindsay Clancy there has been 7 more?"
No, it's 29 more, as of today. Was 27 two days ago. I didn't save the list but it was floating around. Remains to be seen if this causes a social earthquake bigger than Kirk getting shot, or not. I'd say about 50% of my broader social circle (of which there are basically zero moonbats; those are banished to "people I know professionally, or family we don't talk to" at best) are currently permanently ejecting at least one woman out of their lives on account of this trial. Between this and the Kirk assasination, virtually all of them have gone zero tolerance for lefties and various types of crazies. No communication, no socializing, no aid, 100% cut off. Maybe give them a second chance if they come back years later admitting they were batshit. Posted by: heya at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (ND37T) 469
White Knight on cat. White Knight on.
Posted by: Fenelon at September 03, 2026 05:14 PM (HmdlD) I am tired of being told things for my own good. Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (rbvCR) 470
This case and everything around it has been one hell of a Rorschach test that's for sure.
Posted by: Look at this exercise band and what do you see. at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (TbWk/) 471
In Massachusetts, they probably found 11 jurors who believe that it isn't beyond a reasonable doubt that the "real" killer of Nicole Simpson killed the Clancy kids.
Posted by: janmarch at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (7iM56) 472
She needs to be locked away forever.
But what does that say about the medical community, even the hospital that employed her? She had been an unstable mess for quite a while prior to killing the three children. She's really no better than the mom who recently shot her young son in the face, again to punish the father. If Clancy is locked away for killing the children, does that "say" anything about women who have multiple abortions, and late term abortions - and the providers? Free, Clancy could become a heroine to unstable mothers, unstable women everywhere. She could also be someone to drag out for "women's healthcare" and even the 2028 presidential campaign. Prepare for another trial rather than let her walk free. And while I'm certainly not a lawyer, the prosecutors need to toughen up and "say those children's names" constantly. Show pictures of them alive as often as possible. Talk about pre-school if Cora and/or the oldest son attended. Have family, pre-school teachers talk about the children. Do as the street learned to do, make them the victims and make them real. Posted by: L - No nic... at September 03, 2026 05:18 PM (NFX2v) 473
Not guilty by reason of having a really bad day.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2026 05:19 PM (ZxPkt) 474
No, it's 29 more, as of today. Was 27 two days ago. I didn't save the list but it was floating around.
Posted by: heya at September 03, 2026 05:16 PM (ND37T) Guess I'd need to know the background rate of infanticides by mothers to know if this is a spike or just normal incidence over three years. Its a big country. Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:20 PM (uhVAy) 475
After the massacre at Nova festival Oct 7th, we saw leftists swan dive into full-on support of terrorism because admitting it was an atrocity would mean saying killing jews was bad. Prior to that, there was always a little pretend fig-leaf used "Of course I don't want the jews wiped out, I just want FAIRNESS for the Palestinians!" Oct 7th showed that, yeah, when given the choice, they would indeed choose wiping out all the jews, not just watching and saying nothing, but actual full on support of the massacre.
What we are seeing now is the same mental process for killing babies. Leftists never truly beleived their semantic gymnastics about "unviable fetus" or "just an embryo" or "clump of cells". In their minds, abortion was about "killing human babies" all along. There is no separation between unborn baby and born baby or even toddler. It's always been about a deep resentment towards the existance of children in general. Children are the ultimate "my actions have consequences" for leftists, and since the democratic party's underlying ethos is "you can, and SHOULD have a consquence-free life!", they will fight to the death to justify these murders. Posted by: Taft at September 03, 2026 05:20 PM (2iTQF) 476
"Guess I'd need to know the background rate of infanticides by mothers to know if this is a spike or just normal incidence over three years. Its a big country.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2026 05:20 PM (uhVAy)" The background rate is pretty high. I don't think there is much of an uptick here, as it is we are seeing masks come off Posted by: heya at September 03, 2026 05:26 PM (ND37T) 477
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2026 05:13 PM (KC5Lt)
And therein lies the problem. I do think she was nuts. I think she did it. I think the failures that led to the tragedy include incredibly negligent medical care and, frankly, a highly irresponsible husband. That says nothing about whether she should be convicted or in jail. But if you actually cared about stopping this in the future, you would focus on the *sane* people who could have intervened and chose not to. This is like the guy who stabbed Iryna Zarutska. Is he nuts? Yes, although I don't care about that for punishment. But the failures of the DAs and judges will make a thousand more Iryna Zarutskas, and fixing that problem is at least as important as convicting Decarlos Brown. The problem, though, is that right-leaning men hate left-leaning women so much that they end up not caring at all about the actual dead children or grossly misdiagnosed mother. They just want to screw over the AWFLs - not actually fix even a part of the problem. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 05:27 PM (uS0pW) 478
1 in 20 children with a mother with postpartum psychosis is murdered. (Same rate as mothers with PPP who commit suicide.)
Just to note - 1:1000 women is diagnosed with PPP. It's not incredibly common, but it is very serious when it occurs. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 03, 2026 05:29 PM (uS0pW) 479
After the massacre at Nova festival Oct 7th...
but for what it's worth, I - for one - will never stop remembering and caring about that terrible day, and all the dead and the captives - both alive and dead - and believing in the IDF. They were made real - their names, their stories, their families, the brutality and torture and the grief. And the fact that it went on and on for so long, and that some women and their children also participated. Monsters, all. Posted by: L - No nic... at September 03, 2026 05:29 PM (NFX2v) 480
you men just don't know what its like to live with hormones that make you prone to do impulsive and violent things
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at September 03, 2026 05:37 PM (fYc6H) 481
There was already a copycat mommie murderer here in Illinois. If this madness persists and that demon woman is sprung, expect these cases to skyrocket.
Women are extremely susceptible to groupthink, and many take special joy in harming the father's offspring. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 03, 2026 05:37 PM (qwx/I) 482
@488 ... and here comes the deconstruction...
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 03, 2026 05:39 PM (qwx/I) 483
Sorry, 477.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 03, 2026 05:39 PM (qwx/I) 484
Guilty to not guilty means they just want to be done with the henpecking and go home.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 03, 2026 05:53 PM (Fv808) 485
431 It wasn't a dead boy or another woman.
Putting my dime on She told someone to FO. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2026 0 -------------- There's a rumor she might be the new press secretary...... Posted by: beckster at September 03, 2026 05:08 PM (kX27y) ooh Posted by: m at September 03, 2026 05:53 PM (odBC9) 486
If this woman wheels free of any charges, it's all Big Pharma's fault (I am totally unsure if she cooperated and took the meds. As a RN she should know compliance and at least 2wks to see improvement), but that's what the wimmen's say.
Her eyes were dead before her children were. Look at any photo of her smiling. Eyes are the window to the soul and hers are dead. Her smile does not meet her eyes. I read that some blame the father somehow. For getting her pregnant the third time...um, she helped? Regardless if she gets off free from this, she should be given a tubal ligation so she's never able to conceive again. She should also only be around any children without supervision. Those poor children. When so many couples who cannot have babies, she kills hers one by one. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 03, 2026 06:06 PM (hzuYO) 487
Well, let's say she gets aquitted. That means that she is found not guilty by reason of insanity, correct?
Which means she doesn't go free. She is confined/locked up in a mental hospital, correct? As I understand it, no one*, including her, or her defense attorney is saying she litterally didn't do it. They all admit she did it, but she was crazy from post birth psychosis. *Yes, some crazy women are making the claim outide the court and on Tik-Tock that her husband did it, but those are crazies who aren't actually involed in the case. Posted by: EFG at September 03, 2026 06:14 PM (a7fLE) Processing 0.08, elapsed 0.0876 seconds. |
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