The Morning Rant: What Don't You Understand About Socialists?

The idea that Socialism is just another political philosophy is embedded in a certain segment of our country. You know...the morons. "Sure! Let's try it out! Maybe it will work!" These are the ignorant among us who never learned a damned thing about the evils of socialism, because their teachers were crypto-socialists...or as is increasingly common...out-and-proud!

That speaks to two issues. The first is the complete takeover of the educational apparatus by the progressive movement. And the second is the pathetic state of the intellects who are drawn to teaching. Anyone know a serious and intelligent teacher? Sure...they exist. But there aren't many of them.

The reality is that socialism is not a political philosophy that seeks to manage the functions of government. It is a political philosophy that seeks to seize the reins of power and manipulate society to its own ends. The smooth functioning of government operations is nowhere to be found. Rather, those operations are co-opted into the process of converting everything into a vehicle for furthering the aims of socialism.

That the editorial board of the New York Post doesn't understand this basic premise is terrifying indeed! Notice that "socialism" or "DSA" isn't mentioned once in this editorial.

Mayor Klutz — what’s behind Mamdani’s long string of fumbles, failures and fiascos

The mayor has reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors, and it’s easy to see why: He’s in over his head, with a staff dominated by fellow tunnel-visioned lefties.
Too bad it’s the rest of us who pay the worst price for Mayor Klutz’s misrule.

So the real issue is that Mamdani is an idiot and an incompetent?

No...it isn't. Mamdani doesn't give a rat's ass whether NYC runs efficiently. His only goal is the consolidation of government resources in furtherance of his personal goals: the ascendance of socialism, and the ascendance of Islamism. That the wider culture might see him as a buffoon is meaningless. He is busily taking control of the money, and directing it to his supporters within the city government and outside of government in the thousands of NGOs that orbit NYC's vast amounts of cash. They are the ones who will promote his policies among the various racial and ethnic divisions in NYC.

New York City voted for him. Or more correctly; New York City didn't bother to vote, and got a socialist, terror-supporting Shia 12er as Mayor. And Mamdani's only goal is to continue the policies that will get him reelected, and consolidate Islam and socialism in NYC. That the NY Post doesn't understand this is an embarrassment.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2026 11:00 AM (CszeO)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at August 18, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

3 Anyone know a serious and intelligent teacher? Sure...they exist. But there aren't many of them.

Had one in junior college. He'd start a business, build it up, get bored and sell it. Teach until he got bored and go start another business. Rinse & repeat.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2026 11:02 AM (CszeO)

4 >> Fox News Power Rankings: As Democrats turn left, Black voters tap the brakes
Two-thirds of young Americans and 71% of Hispanics disapprove of Trump, but Black voters haven't fully returned

“ There isn’t much evidence that Democrats have figured out how to talk to these voters again, but for two of the three groups, Trump’s declining approval rating is doing the job for them.”

https://tinyurl.com/22dmn8je

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM (q1tXs)

5 Socialism is fueled by the 3 great errors of our age - Hedonism, Nihilism, and Existentialism. They are the ruinous errors in thinking that are opposed to the truth.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM (Gqar8)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM (2YhKe)

7 That speaks to two issues. The first is the complete takeover of the educational apparatus by the progressive movement. And the second is the pathetic state of the intellects who are drawn to teaching.

Pfffffft. I'd like to see YOU write a sentence of this quality. No wonder they're defending his once in a century talent.

“Replete with espoused discourses of equality, diversity and inclusion within public bodies, is the UK, wherein lauded initiatives reward its universities’ commitments to increasing the access and positioning of ‘women’ in higher education.”

https://tinyurl.com/4xwxj9zj

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM (Riz8t)

8 I understand socialism very well. Socialists believe that they are going to get paid to sit around writing bad poetry without laboring in the fields. Ahahahahahaha please face wall

Posted by: Vod Kaknockers at August 18, 2026 11:04 AM (LOZbR)

9 Two-thirds of young Americans and 71% of Hispanics disapprove of Trump, but Black voters haven't fully returned

71 % of Hispanics ? Why do I doubt that... Unless they're talking about illegals...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:04 AM (726Da)

10 Sure, I get it, you can't win elections just pointing at the socialist and yelling "he's a socialist!", because the electorate doesn't seem to know about the 20th century.

But calling them what they are may be a good start in the direction of educating the dummies.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2026 11:05 AM (aWka8)

11 I need pizza

Posted by: the nephew at August 18, 2026 11:06 AM (LOZbR)

12 9 Two-thirds of young Americans and 71% of Hispanics disapprove of Trump, but Black voters haven't fully returned

71 % of Hispanics ? Why do I doubt that... Unless they're talking about illegals...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:04 AM (726Da)

It is a poll. All polls are biased and push an agenda.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:06 AM (Gqar8)

13 And Mamdani's only goal is to continue the policies that will get him reelected

One thing that fascinates me in conversations I have with lefty LIVs is that they don't quite get this part.

If you make it clear you will vote for an opposing politician...AND DO IT...in the future all politicians will consider what impact the policies they pursue will have on the next election, if OTOH, you always vote for the same politicians because Republicans are big meanies then well the Dems learn they can do literally anything and you will vote for them

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:06 AM (sKqQm)

14 Fox also has Talarico ahead in Texas.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:07 AM (q1tXs)

15 14 Fox also has Talarico ahead in Texas.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:07 AM (q1tXs)

Not just Fox, but they are one of the worst...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:07 AM (726Da)

16 14 Fox also has Talarico ahead in Texas.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:07 AM (q1tXs)

Well sure, if you poll UT Austin, and the Houston Hood.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:08 AM (Gqar8)

17 It’s much simpler.

Socialism is alluring to weak people because who doesn’t want a bunch of free stuff for doing nothing? Why work when I don’t have to right bro? Mamdani will make everything free. Awesome.

Those with an IQ above room temperature and/or anyone who has studied history understand it can’t work. But sadly there are tens of millions of low IQ uninformed voters who fall for it again and again and again.

It’s cyclical and will never end.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:08 AM (qDa2L)

18 14 Fox also has Talarico ahead in Texas.

And John Cornyn is a lock for reelection.

Posted by: Fox News at August 18, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

19 Polls are strip clubs and fire stations.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (y+Apl)

20 Sure, I get it, you can't win elections just pointing at the socialist and yelling "he's a socialist!", because the electorate doesn't seem to know about the 20th century.

I'd like to see Rs run adds pointing out the things people don't like in society are directly related to Dem policies.

Housing expensive? Inflation from giving interest groups money and illegals

Crime? Illegals

Hard to find a job? Illegals and H1Bs

Make it clear what those votes determine to the voters.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (sKqQm)

21 Ohio senate seat also doesn’t look good for the GOP

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (q1tXs)

22 An entire generation, or two, of people run through public schools and then on to college or some university are never educated. They're indoctrinated. They end up at the end of their time in academia with no degree, no diploma in anything other than "Socialism."

They then go out into the world and are horribly frustrated with their job/life prospects because they've got zero useful skills.

They're angry. And it's all your fault. So they'll take from you to make themselves whole... without all that work they can't seem to be bothered with.

Between this shit and the Islamic hordes we're going to have our hands full.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (2Cry5)

23 21 Ohio senate seat also doesn’t look good for the GOP
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (q1tXs)

That one doesn't look good, but I'm not buying the Texas race...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:10 AM (726Da)

24
Socialism is alluring to weak people because who doesn’t want a bunch of free stuff for doing nothing? Why work when I don’t have to right bro? Mamdani will make everything free. Awesome.

Yep. I see this playing out constantly. The D candidate promises free stuff, the R meanie doesn't want to give me free stuff so...f*ck that R candidate.

Where does the free stuff come from? Who cares.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

25 Trump won in part because he had a nice clean message. Deport illegals, cut the price of eggs.

Thats what wins elections easy bumper sticker type slogans. The GOP explaining why socialism doesn’t work is hard to do in that context.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:11 AM (qDa2L)

26 14 Fox also has Talarico ahead in Texas.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:07 AM

How was the poll conducted?

Posted by: I gotta ask at August 18, 2026 11:11 AM (2Ez/1)

27 In my more charitable moments, I can actually agree, in principle that a more egalitarian society is in some way a noble ideal.

I am not persuaded that Revolutionary anarchists and bomb throwers are the means to effect such a society in any way. Near as I can tell from History, it merely exchanges one set of crooks for another, usually worse. “Democracy is like riding the bus. When you get to your destination, you get off.”

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2026 11:11 AM (ZX9JC)

28 I’m all in on hand waiving off the polls. They’re more designed to impact public opinion than anything else. But I think some of the turnout models are what we should be concerned with. People may not show up because they’re pissed about the economy or whatever is making their asses sore. But three is a real cut off your nose to spite your face contingent out there.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:12 AM (q1tXs)

29 The mayor has reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors, and it’s easy to see why: He’s in over his head, with a staff dominated by fellow tunnel-visioned lefties.
Too bad it’s the rest of us who pay the worst price for Mayor Klutz’s misrule.

You bring that shit on yourselves Every. F*cking. Time.

You NEVER learn. You had it good under Giuliani. You replaced him with Bloomberg. You replaced HIM with DeBlasio........

NYC voters are the epitome of stupid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:12 AM (2YhKe)

30 Where does the free stuff come from? Who cares.

It will come from robots and AI, duh. You know, at least until they rise up and destroy us because we're useless eaters.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:12 AM (Riz8t)

31 *sips tasty umbrella drink*

Posted by: John Thune, certified asshole at August 18, 2026 11:12 AM (y+Apl)

32 See the link for all the polling data.

Not saying I agree with it btw.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:12 AM (q1tXs)

33 New York City voted for him. Or more correctly; New York City didn't bother to vote, and got a socialist, terror-supporting Shia 12er as Mayor.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Posted by: Rush at August 18, 2026 11:13 AM (2YhKe)

34 MONKEY!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:13 AM (N1DT3)

35 If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Whoa!

Posted by: Zen master at August 18, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

36 Fox isn’t some outlier. There have been several polls showing the same thing in Texas. Are they accurate? Who knows. But it’s not just Fox saying this.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:14 AM (qDa2L)

37 Smeagol - What’s that?
Deagol - It’s a RING
Smeagol - Give its to us, Deagol my love
Deagol - Why?
Because it’s my birthday, and we wants it

The plot of our time

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:14 AM (Gqar8)

38 Quick. Name a poll that's been accurate in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:15 AM (2YhKe)

39 Where does the free stuff come from?
—

Easy. Tax millionaiaaahs and billionaaiaahs.
- Bernie

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:15 AM (qDa2L)

40 Socialists and commies think that math applies to the value of individual humans. The first person singular does not exist for them. Or at least for those honest about their intentions.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2026 11:15 AM (XvL8K)

41 They have Texas and Georgia as toss ups. I do t know how realistic that is. But the Dems are dumping a ton of their cash into Georgia. For some reason their internals are telling them they can also go after some allegedly safe Republican senate seats like Kansas. I do t see it myself. Ohio is a real problem though. That te canary on the coal mine.

We need TJM to tell us how worthless the polls are until mid September. But if they do t change then…

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (q1tXs)

42 In my more charitable moments, I can actually agree, in principle that a more egalitarian society is in some way a noble ideal.

I think that's the wrong approach.

Until relatively recently the cost of living was dropping, at least on established things, yes yes we've added in new things like cell phones with their own costs but economic progress was bringing costs down.

Then this just stopped. Partly inflation, partly graft and crime, partly bureaucracy and regulation. And THIS is the problem

I don't care if Elon Musk has a brazillion dollars nor should anyone else. I do care that a dollar buys me half the goods and services it did in 2020. Fix this latter problem and you get rid of the wind pushing socialism

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (sKqQm)

43 Socialism also rewards failure. (That might be why the people who support it are mostly failures themselves.)

If your socialist plans didn't work, CLEARLY you didn't go far enough. It's not that socialism has failed everywhere, it's that wreckers and saboteurs ruined it. We just have to control even more and THEN it will work!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (N1DT3)

44 We survived Carter and Obama. We’ll survive Mamdani. Pendulum is always swinging.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (qDa2L)

45 reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors

There needs to be a priest in NYC who starts publicly preaching against Mamdani.

Just because I want it to be published he lost his s**t in one of these meetings and shouted, "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!"

Posted by: GWB at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (kU0PQ)

46 Socialism is fueled by the 3 great errors of our age - Hedonism, Nihilism, and Existentialism...
Posted by: tubal

*********

Put Them All Together and Whattya Get?

Socialist philosophy's quite crappy
Advocates of which are truly sappy
Existentialism, Nihilism,
and throw in a bit of Hedonism

"I think, therefore, that nothing will make me happy!"

Posted by: muldoon at August 18, 2026 11:17 AM (I0N4X)

47 Democrats have a fraud and turnout machine that can only be beaten by Republicans getting to the polls. Our turnout is going to be the deciding factor. That what a lot of these polls are trying to discourage- republican turnout.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:18 AM (q1tXs)

48 The poisoned minds that we see acting out, everywhere now wil not be magically fixed. We are in for some rough rough years. If history means anything the correction will be horrendous.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar8)

49
NYC voters are the epitome of stupid.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August

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I see it differently. Mamdani remains (and will remain) very popular, without regard to governance. He is an enemy of America's, and so are they. He hates whites, and so do they. He hates Jews, and so do they. Wealthy people, same. And above all, he hates Orangemanbad.

NYers are hate-based voters and he checks the boxes for them, and nothing else matters.

He could say "I'm releasing rabid raccoons throughout the city, because MAGA is afraid of rabies," and that would be a popular policy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:18 AM (BI5O2)

50 We survived Carter and Obama. We’ll survive Mamdani. Pendulum is always swinging.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (qDa2L)

Missing that it's harder and harder to come back each time.........and has negative effects on the economies and freedoms each time.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:19 AM (2YhKe)

51 Socialists and commies think that math applies to the value of individual humans. The first person singular does not exist for them. Or at least for those honest about their intentions.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2026 11:15 AM (XvL8K)

Umm... most socialists are VERY concerned about the first person singular: I, me, mine. EVERYTHING is about what has been denied to them because THEY are so much better than everyone else but those terrible people, like Trump, have so much more money. I deserve to have everything they have!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:19 AM (N1DT3)

52
He could say "I'm releasing rabid raccoons throughout the city, because MAGA is afraid of rabies," and that would be a popular policy.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:18 AM (BI5O2)

The epitome of stupid.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:19 AM (2YhKe)

53 Georgia currently has 2 Dem senators. Why is it so hard to fathom Georgia as a toss up?

2026 Georgia is vastly different than 2000 Georgia most people imagine when they think of the state. Things have changed dramatically over there.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:20 AM (qDa2L)

54 Socialism also rewards failure. (That might be why the people who support it are mostly failures themselves.)

If your socialist plans didn't work, CLEARLY you didn't go far enough. It's not that socialism has failed everywhere, it's that wreckers and saboteurs ruined it. We just have to control even more and THEN it will work!

I really don't know where all those kulaks have been hiding in America, but they're certainly doing a lot of damage. Take all their grain!!!

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

55 Turnout.

>>@EricLDaugh
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>>🚨 NOW: FLORIDA REPUBLICANS ARE STORMING THE POLLS LIKE NO TOMORROW!!

>>Election day so far: R+11.5 FROM 2022

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:20 AM (viF8m)

56 They’re not poisoned minds. These people are full on retards. They have absolutely no grounding in reality. They buy 100% of what they have been sold even though it’s easily demonstrated as false.

That’s why they are fanatics. People like that don’t respond to facts, truths or reasoned debate. Anything that challenges their beliefs and shibboleths on a very material, factual way is destroyed or ignored. It’s a recipe for disaster when reality kicks them in the teeth.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (q1tXs)

57 Socialism is a disguise for tyranny.

Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (Q+gd/)

58 In my more charitable moments, I can actually agree, in principle that a more egalitarian society is in some way a noble ideal.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2026 11:11 AM (ZX9JC)

I agree. That is why barriers to entry to the American Dream must be dismantled. Government regulation is evil. Tax schemes to promote particular industries and corporations are evil. Taxation that penalizes entrepreneurial behavior is evil.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (k5CNB)

59
Umm... most socialists are VERY concerned about the first person singular: I, me, mine. EVERYTHING is about what has been denied to them because THEY are so much better than everyone else but those terrible people, like Trump, have so much more money. I deserve to have everything they have!

I have a bunch of objectively rich lefty LIVs in my circle - they are in top 10% in income. They all rant about the need to "tax the rich" and then tell me they are barely making ends meet.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (sKqQm)

60 Things have changed dramatically over there.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:20 AM (qDa2L)

Especially behind the papered up windows of the polling places.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (+rw6l)

61 We survived Carter and Obama. We’ll survive Mamdani. Pendulum is always swinging.
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Mere “Survival” is the standard? Nice. That is setting the bar awfully low. Our standard of living has been gutted. Wages stagnant since 1974. There should be affordable tourist flights orbiting the Moon by now. Most people have absolutely no concept of just how fucked over this nation really is.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (ZX9JC)

62 Overheard at Bernie Sanders' deodorant aisle:

Sure you have a choice. Take it or leave it!

Posted by: muldoon at August 18, 2026 11:22 AM (I0N4X)

63 >>Georgia currently has 2 Dem senators. Why is it so hard to fathom Georgia as a toss up?

It's pretty clear why Georgia has 2 Dem senators. Same reason Biden came back in the middle of the night and "beat" Trump.

Georgia was ground zero for election rigging in 2020.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:22 AM (viF8m)

64 Oli oli gocky FREE!!!!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (2YhKe)

65 The islamist cult, more than anything else, needs to be defeated at all costs.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (q1tXs)

66 Tell a kid you’ll feed him nothing but ice cream he’ll think you’re the greatest parent in the world. Make him eat vegetables you’re the worst parent in the world.

This is Ds and Rs for young voters. Ds want to give you ice cream and Rs want you to get a job.

Who do you think wins more votes?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (qDa2L)

67 I agree. That is why barriers to entry to the American Dream must be dismantled. Government regulation is evil. Tax schemes to promote particular industries and corporations are evil. Taxation that penalizes entrepreneurial behavior is evil.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (k5CNB)

There's also the problem that government regulation necessarily harms small businesses more than large ones.

Is it any surprise that as government has gotten bigger, our corporations have also done so?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (N1DT3)

68 Conservatives allowed , maybe not the right word, the take over of public education. Complaining about it now is hypocritical. If you weren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (gIjzl)

69 Especially behind the papered up windows of the polling places.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM

Don't forget the USB sticks...

Posted by: Francesca Hong at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (2Ez/1)

70 The islamist cult, more than anything else, needs to be defeated at all costs.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (q1tXs)

Know islham, no peace.

No islham, know peace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (2YhKe)

71 I have a bunch of objectively rich lefty LIVs in my circle - they are in top 10% in income. They all rant about the need to "tax the rich" and then tell me they are barely making ends meet.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (sKqQm)

Contentment is a Christian virtue.

Envy is a socialist one.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (N1DT3)

72 Supply and Demand.

As demand for free shit increases, politicians will promise more free shit.

Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (Q+gd/)

73 >>Who do you think wins more votes?

Trump won the national popular vote in '24. It can be done. They just need to run better campaigns than they have in the past.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (viF8m)

74 pretty clear why Georgia has 2 Dem senators. Same reason Biden came back in the middle of the night and "beat" Trump.

Georgia was ground zero for election rigging in 2020.
Posted by: JackStraw

Polls probably take that into account. At least a good pollster would.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (qDa2L)

75 Mail-in Voting FTW.

If mail-in voting is allowed to continue unfettered, there will NEVER be a free and fair election in this country ever again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (2YhKe)

76 Trump should do a big speech about suicide is for yuuuge losers who aren't nearly as cool as his awesome voters and how only real MAGA Kings don't throw themselves from tall buildings, because that's for Leftist swine.

And then let the bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (BI5O2)

77 The islamist cult, more than anything else, needs to be defeated at all costs.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (q1tXs)

The first enemy we faced as a nation and the threat has only grown since.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (N1DT3)

78 BAMN. We’re soaking in it.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (Gqar8)

79 OMG and various other media outlets have PROVEN WITHOUT A DOUBT that there's fraud everywhere.

Nothing has been done about it. Not one thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (2YhKe)

80 Who do you think wins more votes?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM

"Votes."
That's cute.

Posted by: Dominion Systems at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (2Ez/1)

81 Socialism is fueled by the 3 great errors of our age - Hedonism, Nihilism, and Existentialism. They are the ruinous errors in thinking that are opposed to the truth.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM (Gqar

I would go with Envy and Sloth, and those have been around for millennia.

Great, now I have Flogging Molly's "Seven Deadly Sins" stuck in my head.

Posted by: pookysgirl, philosophizing too early in the day at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (Wt5PA)

82 Yeah, look at Georgia prior to those two dunces being elected. No way I believe that’s a solid D state, even with all the trash that’s moved in. I think Ossass is a paper tiger. They’ve built him up to the point he’s thinking of running for potus. No way Pee Wee Herman could win that. In fact I think Georgia is completely winnable with their fraud machine in check.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (q1tXs)

83 Umm... most socialists are VERY concerned about the first person singular: I, me, mine. EVERYTHING is about what has been denied to them because THEY are so much better than everyone else but those terrible people, like Trump, have so much more money. I deserve to have everything they have!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Note that I said "those honest about their intentions." You're talking about those, admittedly the majority, going with just their "feels." It's the minority, Lenin's "elite vanguard," that I'm referring to, and who will exploit those useful idiots.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (XvL8K)

84 The early Georgia polls were heavily weighted Dem. A lot of them have mo ed or are slowly moving to toss up in August. That’s a clue.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:27 AM (q1tXs)

85 Great irony in that socialism is incredibly selfish wearing the skinsuit of the welfare of the people.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:27 AM (Gqar8)

86 86% of Americans support the SAVE act.

We can't even get THAT to a f*cking vote.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:27 AM (2YhKe)

87 This is Ds and Rs for young voters. Ds want to give you ice cream and Rs want you to get a job.

Who do you think wins more votes?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:23 AM (qDa2L)

In that metaphor, the GOP is a bad parent. They're the ones who couldn't give any less of a fuck about whether you live or die, and if the Dems were serving you poisoned ice cream, they'd scoop it into the bowl as long as they let them watch while they bugger your corpse.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (BI5O2)

88 We survived Carter and Obama. We’ll survive Mamdani. Pendulum is always swinging.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (qDa2L)

Yes, we survive. But every time we elect someone like them, we always find we have less and less freedoms after they're gone. Freedoms we'll never fully enjoy again.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (g8Ew8)

89 Primary day in Florida today. I need to register R one of these days. I am in a ruby red area, so the choice of who is elected is made during the primaries. It's just ... joining a political party is blech.

Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (SHHm+)

90 Note that I said "those honest about their intentions." You're talking about those, admittedly the majority, going with just their "feels." It's the minority, Lenin's "elite vanguard," that I'm referring to, and who will exploit those useful idiots.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2026 11:25 AM (XvL8K)

While I will agree the elite socialists don't care about OTHER individuals, they are VERY concerned about themselves. That's why they want power.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (N1DT3)

91 >>Polls probably take that into account. At least a good pollster would.

Polls never take that into account. Until recently, you were called an election denier if you even suggested that our elections were not secure.

Every single election cycle we go through same period where people freak out over push polls in the summer and then are amazed when they true up as we get closer to election day.

You don't need polls to tell you what you can see on the ground with your own eyes. In 24 I knew Harris was toast because while Trump was filling arenas on a nightly basis Harris had to pay twerkers millions and even then her "supporters" were about as enthusiastic as a guy walking to the gallows.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (viF8m)

92 their teachers were crypto-socialists...or as is increasingly common...out-and-proud!
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Which is why it is so common among the college-indoctrinated.

They have full Gramscian capture of the university.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (Fi81e)

93 90 Primary day in Florida today. I need to register R one of these days. I am in a ruby red area, so the choice of who is elected is made during the primaries. It's just ... joining a political party is blech.
Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (SHHm+)

go Independent... I'm Independent

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (726Da)

94 87 86% of Americans support the SAVE act.
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Where does that number come from?

Posted by: I gotta ask at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (2Ez/1)

95 87 86% of Americans support the SAVE act.

We can't even get THAT to a f*cking vote.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:27 AM (2YhKe)

“ They” do not want to relinquish their brown serfs - very useful to the overclass, they are.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (Gqar8)

96 'The mayor has reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors, and it’s easy to see why: He’s in over his head, with a staff dominated by fellow tunnel-visioned lefties.'
Dang. That sounds like the FuehrerBunker in spring of 45.

Posted by: Eromero at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (LHPAg)

97 >> 86% of Americans support the SAVE act.

And two republican senators didn’t bother to show up for a committee vote that would have stripped SNAP funding from states who didn’t comply with the new anti fraud measures.

They are lazy, self aggrandizing assholes.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:30 AM (q1tXs)

98 Yes, we survive. But every time we elect someone like them, we always find we have less and less freedoms after they're gone. Freedoms we'll never fully enjoy again.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (g8Ew

Do you remember going to independent doctor's offices, not owned by some massive health conglomerate?

Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

I honestly don't know what we lost from Carter, but I very much know what we lost from Obama and how much the GOPe has fought to keep it lost.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:30 AM (N1DT3)

99 I voted in the GOP primary. For the most based motherfucker on the ballot.

He lost of course - but overperformed significantly, especially in my based part of the State.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (BI5O2)

100 89 We survived Carter and Obama. We’ll survive Mamdani. Pendulum is always swinging.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:16 AM (qDa2L)

Yes, we survive. But every time we elect someone like them, we always find we have less and less freedoms after they're gone. Freedoms we'll never fully enjoy again.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (g8Ew

Yeah, a downward trend for the last 60 or 70 years. Occasional bumps upward, but a trend.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (Gqar8)

101 Mayor Klutz — what’s behind Mamdani’s long string of fumbles, failures and fiascos

Intentionality.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (XD+PD)

102 'The mayor has reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors, and it’s easy to see why: He’s in over his head, with a staff dominated by fellow tunnel-visioned lefties.'
Dang. That sounds like the FuehrerBunker in spring of 45.

Posted by: Eromero at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (LHPAg)
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Cue "Downfall" parody video in 3...2...1...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (FZ29D)

103 See?

>>@BillMelugin_
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19h
>>NEW: The company behind a recent poll that showed Karen Bass with a 12-point lead over Nithya Raman for LA mayor & showed Bass collecting most of Spencer Pratt's prior support has admitted their poll was FAKE and was intended as a "social experiment" to see how a poll could spread in the media ecosystem without verification.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (viF8m)

104 The idea that the GOP is the party of sober adults is very 1990s.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 18, 2026 11:31 AM (QzM4s)

105 Where my EBT card at?

Posted by: La'Shondra at August 18, 2026 11:32 AM (2Ez/1)

106 >> 86% of Americans support the SAVE act.

Yeah, but, who elected them?!

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2026 11:32 AM (XD+PD)

107 The GA Senate election situation is odd.

Perdue won by 8 points in 2014.

In 2020 the polls had Ossoff +1, but Perdue won by +2 in the first round. In the runoff Ossoff then was +1 and "won the election"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:32 AM (sKqQm)

108 The mayor has reportedly turned thin-skinned and shouty behind closed doors, and it’s easy to see why: He’s in over his head, with a staff dominated by fellow tunnel-visioned lefties.'
Dang. That sounds like the FuehrerBunker in spring of 45.

Posted by: Eromero

Probably like dealing with a spoiled brat 15 yo

Posted by: John Thune, certified asshole at August 18, 2026 11:33 AM (y+Apl)

109 Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:29 AM (726Da)

I am, but with closed primaries I don't get to vote for who runs. That means come election day all the locals are already decided. (There is no way a Democrat wins in my area.)

Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2026 11:33 AM (SHHm+)

110 Morning.

So how long before the the Islamic Emirate of New York City empties out?

Posted by: Robert at August 18, 2026 11:33 AM (dpXJq)

111 I am, but with closed primaries I don't get to vote for who runs. That means come election day all the locals are already decided. (There is no way a Democrat wins in my area.)
Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2026 11:33 AM (SHHm+)

Got it...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2026 11:34 AM (726Da)

112 Socialism is fueled by the 3 great errors of our age - Hedonism, Nihilism, and Existentialism. They are the ruinous errors in thinking that are opposed to the truth.

Posted by: tubal at August 18, 2026 11:03 AM
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Hedonism is literally not thinking. Nihilism is having no confidence in thinking. At least existentialism is thinking, even including Sartre.

One of the greatest thinkers since the Enlightenment, Soren Kierkegaard, was retroactively named as one of the originators of existentialism. (The other being Nietzsche, who nonetheless is interesting to have read.)

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:34 AM (Fi81e)

113
It's not Trump they hate. It's the people who voted for Trump. When he leaves office - or they succeed in assassinating him - do you really think things will return to the status quo ante?

I am already seeing fulminating calls to hold Trump voters accountable. God save us from their acquiring power. They may end up killing each other, but you and I will have perished long before that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2026 11:34 AM (O0L8i)

114 >>The GA Senate election situation is odd.

Because it was stolen.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

115 Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:28 AM (viF8m)

The black pill is the most powerful drug out there. The partakers never give up the habit. Instead of trying to convince them otherwise, you should try to staple jello to a wall.

Posted by: Fat Guy sitting nekkid on a Ottoman at August 18, 2026 11:35 AM (SExz7)

116 Polls, commissioned by people loyal to the Democratic Socialists are hardly a bellwether of public sentiment.

Media mouthpieces on the web or cable are loyal to the Democratic Socialists.

Both seriously want to see Socialism succeed.

But they really, really want to see Trump and the normies defeated. I think it's less about the ideology and more about sticking it to us because we're sick of their shit and not putting up with it as before.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (2Cry5)

117 Trump won the national popular vote in '24. It can be done. They just need to run better campaigns than they have in the past.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (viF8m)

He did. But he also dipped his toe into the free shit waters. No tax on tips, $1000 baby fund, free in vitro, etc.

No tax on tips isn’t free shit since it’s your money to begin with, we can all agree on that. To a voter it’s still “I get more money if I vote for him”. Saving $5k in taxes and getting a $5k govt check in the mail is effectively the same thing. And it was a targeted tax cut to win a certain group of people, not an across the board tax cut. That’s politics they all do it. Elections are won by winning a lot of small group that add up to a big group. You have to give those small groups reason to vote for you.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (qDa2L)

118 Great irony in that socialism is incredibly selfish wearing the skinsuit of the welfare of the people.
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Well, right. The wealthy using the poor, to grind the “middle class” into dust. You see this every time in the shithole countries. Some huge mansion, and a couple hundred feet away a hundred shacks made out of cardboard on the hill.

“Stick it to the Rich!” Is perennially popular. Yet somehow it never sticks to the Rich. It only ever gets applied to shopkeepers and small business men and women.

Functionally retarded and defective people go into local government. Maybe they mean well, but they don’t understand how anything works. Then they move up into local legislatures or other arms of government. Decent capable people want nothing to do with government, they are driven away. The political equivalent of Gresham’s Law.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (ZX9JC)

119 Mamdani doesn't give a rat's ass whether NYC runs efficiently. His only goal is the consolidation of government resources in furtherance of his personal goals: the ascendance of socialism, and the ascendance of Islamism.
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You aren't cynical enough.

He wants NYC to fail. He wants the USA to fail. He is an islamocommunist. The socialism/communism cant he delivers is just a hustle to gull the rubes. Promise them free shit to get elected, then bust the system with it. When it is broken and in ruin and chaos islam will build a Caliphate on its bones.

Posted by: You need to dial it up a notch at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (anL5R)

120 Ohio senate seat also doesn’t look good for the GOP
Posted by: Vengeance at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (q1tXs)
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This is polling maybe, but it is also bullshit. Sherrod Brown will lose solidly. Ohio knows him only too well.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (f8DjE)

121 Morning, CBD, and Horde! That machine in the Shed of Rebellion is surely a printing press. One of the tools of rebellion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (1z8ji)

122 >>The GA Senate election situation is odd.

Because it was stolen.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

Hollywood moved in. Really, up until recently Marvel movies were made in Georgia. They bailed for Britain last year. I don't know about any other studios, but I wonder if that'll have some small effect on the election.

Posted by: Robert at August 18, 2026 11:38 AM (dpXJq)

123 If you can have a social center that is not God, you must have some capacity for "existential thought". How does man derive "meaning" from his life.

Ecclesiastes is generally recognized as the first existentialist text. Man finding meaning.

So, while I see it's negative effects in part, I can't condemn existentialism entirely. Because existentialism asks the questions that some of us find Jesus answers.

As well, Pascal's mode was kind of existential. His wager is very much about you, a being of uncertain origin and possible revelation, finding meaning and truth.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:38 AM (Fi81e)

124 Eventually, the rich even run out of money......that is available to the government, anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:38 AM (2YhKe)

125 Well, right. The wealthy using the poor, to grind the “middle class” into dust. You see this every time in the shithole countries. Some huge mansion, and a couple hundred feet away a hundred shacks made out of cardboard on the hill.

One of the most important bits of political history people don't spend enough time looking at is how the the German Empire under Bismark bought off the gimme-dat class in Germany to freeze out the middle class from political power with...socialized medicine.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:39 AM (sKqQm)

126 Morning, CBD, and Horde! That machine in the Shed of Rebellion is surely a printing press. One of the tools of rebellion.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM (1z8ji)

So, that IS in your backyard.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 18, 2026 11:39 AM (2YhKe)

127 Functionally retarded and defective people go into local government. Maybe they mean well, but they don’t understand how anything works. Then they move up into local legislatures or other arms of government. Decent capable people want nothing to do with government, they are driven away. The political equivalent of Gresham’s Law.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2026 11:37 AM
++++

It almost always begins with the HOA.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 18, 2026 11:40 AM (2Ez/1)

128 Do you remember going to independent doctor's offices, not owned by some massive health conglomerate?

Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

I honestly don't know what we lost from Carter, but I very much know what we lost from Obama and how much the GOPe has fought to keep it lost.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Given the option of selecting medical care from 50 years ago, and medical care today, which would you choose? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Yes, something has been lost, but a lot more has been gained.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

129 while Trump was filling arenas on a nightly basis Harris had to pay twerkers millions

The ops will stay ridiculous until people notice them.

Posted by: Joe Biden Jogs To The Stage at August 18, 2026 11:41 AM (XD+PD)

130 Sure, I get it, you can't win elections just pointing at the socialist and yelling "he's a socialist!", because the electorate doesn't seem to know about the 20th century.

But calling them what they are may be a good start in the direction of educating the dummies.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2026 11:05 AM (aWka

So call him a Nazi. It is accurate enough. Nazis were socialists, and they did conspire with muslims, and to this day, many musloids admire Hitler.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2026 11:41 AM (1z8ji)

131 I'm in GA.

Ossoff is well liked. He keeps a low media profile and is an excellent retail politician.

In a fairly reddish/purple state, he'll likely win.

That's reality.

Posted by: MJ at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (XOmY9)

132 He did. But he also dipped his toe into the free shit waters. No tax on tips, $1000 baby fund, free in vitro, etc.

As someone who has paid a lot in taxes over the years I have zero problem with any candidate saying they want to reduce taxes. The last year has made it abundantly clear even to those who didn't pay attention to this stuff in the past that a huge amount of money we send to DC is simply stolen. And I think the baby fund is an excellent program.

Most of the money is being donated by wealthy people and if it helps young people pay for school or get started with their life and makes the country stronger it works for me.

I'm sick of labels, I look for results. Trump is fighting and delivering results that are good for me and the country. I don't care what label he wears.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (viF8m)

133 Trump won the national popular vote in '24. It can be done. They just need to run better campaigns than they have in the past.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:24 AM (viF8m

No!

They need to deliver on populist agenda items, or lose. They haven't done that.

The optics bullshit is OVAH.

The Trump voter is on to the metaphysically useless GOP, and lying outrageously to him during a campaign isn't going to work anymore.

It's too late to win big - or probably at all - this cycle. They already blew it, big time.

They need to change course right now or they are done for in '28. But you can be sure the metaphysically useless GOP will change nothing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (BI5O2)

134 Hate to ask but did the pop-ups stop? I haven't heard anyone mention them lately

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (+rw6l)

135 Do you remember going to independent doctor's offices, not owned by some massive health conglomerate? Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

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That has more to do with PE running health care than Obama. The consolidation of health care providers into a handful of PE backed companies is criminal. But Obama didn’t cause that. PE is a cancer that has been growing since before Obama showed up and long after Obama left. Every industry it touches turns to shit for customers.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (qDa2L)

136 So call him a Nazi. It is accurate enough. Nazis were socialists, and they did conspire with muslims, and to this day, many musloids admire Hitler.

One area the GOPe moved away from is directly blaming Ds for the various social problems we have.

If they want to win they should return to that. Hell, D ads are just "I hate Trump" at this point.

Every R should be running the story of someone who lost a family member in their district due to an illegal and directly blaming their D opponent.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)

137 Polls are strip clubs and fire stations.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2026 11:09 AM (y+Apl)

And me.

Posted by: The Dog at August 18, 2026 11:43 AM (1z8ji)

138 while Trump was filling arenas on a nightly basis Harris had to pay twerkers millions

Yes, but the second time will be the charm, don't you worry. She's a lock this time.

Posted by: Kamala supporters at August 18, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)

139 135 Hate to ask but did the pop-ups stop? I haven't heard anyone mention them lately
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (+rw6l)

Nope.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 18, 2026 11:43 AM (QzM4s)

140 >Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:40 AM
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Going to the minor emergency center feels like paying someone $40 to Google your symptoms.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 18, 2026 11:44 AM (2Ez/1)

141 Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

And you blew the margins.

Don't do that again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2026 11:44 AM (k5CNB)

142 Hate to ask but did the pop-ups stop? I haven't heard anyone mention them lately

Yup, at least on my laptop.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

143 This is polling maybe, but it is also bullshit. Sherrod Brown will lose solidly. Ohio knows him only too well.
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Um, well Husted isn't well known and Brown is running attack adds like crazy.

Posted by: Typical republicans hate the disabled and love billionnaires stuff at August 18, 2026 11:45 AM (anL5R)

144 The thing about "socialism" is that we were seeing the founder's reflection in liberalism before the Democratic party started taking a harder turn to Marxism.

Shockingly, Robert Owen's strongest influence was Locke's "tabula rasa" and his interpretation that society shapes men. Although I like Locke, On Human Understanding does not rank highly with me, and "tabula rasa" is the idea I'm least likely to defend.

But, again, we saw the shape of Robert Owen in liberal politics.

How so? Well, you're never going to fix crime until you fix society. You're never going to fix personal issues, until you "fix society" all at once.

While I was coming into my own as a independent thinker, the part that riled me with liberals is the idea that everything has to be fixed by fixing everything all at once. And although I didn't quite have the label at the time, that idea seemed "brittle" and un-robust.

But this is "socialism". Marx's logistics were to get us to Owen's socialism. Where we have a "fixed society" and human flourishing ensues. (Without God, mind you).

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:45 AM (Fi81e)

145
Maybe they mean well, but they don’t understand how anything works.

The Ruling Class has never been on a farm, visited a production line or walked through a refinery unit. They know nothing at all about how things are produced or what it takes to get it from A to B. The concept of people as customers is completely beyond them. Likely they've never worked a real summer job.

They got their little internships (with Daddy's help), went to the right schools where they absorbed and regurgitated various orthodoxies and became staffers and gofers for the powerful. Their arrogance is matched only by their ignorance.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2026 11:46 AM (O0L8i)

146 Going to the minor emergency center feels like paying someone $40 to Google your symptoms.

If Google has better knowledge than the doctor, I'm okay with that. I have long since lost my innocence in thinking that every doctor was a god, and knew everything. I'd rather they look it up to confirm their diagnosis, then pretend they know the answer when they really don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:46 AM (Riz8t)

147 While I will agree the elite socialists don't care about OTHER individuals, they are VERY concerned about themselves. That's why they want power.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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I don't agree with that. For that core of true believers, it's a substitute religion for which they'd be willing to sacrifice themselves. Darkness at Noon gives the perfect illustration.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2026 11:47 AM (XvL8K)

148 Do you remember going to independent doctor's offices, not owned by some massive health conglomerate?

Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

I honestly don't know what we lost from Carter, but I very much know what we lost from Obama and how much the GOPe has fought to keep it lost.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Yes. Because I have concierge care. So this is my experience every time I see him. I can text him right now and even tell him it’s a test to prove what I have, and he will text me back in 5 minutes. Him. Not an answering service. If his NP is on call, then it’s her. I have a crap plan from the exchange, the worst and cheapest one they offer for catastrophic care. I have never used it. I get everything done at my doctor’s office for the monthly fee I pay him, labs are drawn there and discounted. It ends up being less than a top tier medical insurance plan for my daughter and me for far better care.

Posted by: Piper at August 18, 2026 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)

149 Hate to ask but did the pop-ups stop? I haven't heard anyone mention them lately
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (+rw6l)

Nope.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 18, 2026 11:43 AM

We do have it on good authority, however that the senior lady in the unique gray sweater sporting pronounced hooterage is off today because it's time for her mammogram.

We're stuck with toe fungus as a poor substitute.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 18, 2026 11:47 AM (2Ez/1)

150 Oh! And my doctor knows who I am, knows who my kid is without looking us up. I also got treated during Covid for covid when those doctors attached to med insurance plans or hospitals were not allowed to do it.

Posted by: Piper at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (ZdaMQ)

151 But this is "socialism". Marx's logistics were to get us to Owen's socialism. Where we have a "fixed society" and human flourishing ensues. (Without God, mind you).

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:45 AM (Fi81e)

Did Marx really want society to flourish? Do any of them?

I don't mean in their drunkest or even deluded fever dreams. I mean the entire ideology is one long spite fest and built on a jenga tower of lies and half truths.

I don't care about stated goals, I just wonder if you think any leftist agitators actually desire utopia because my presumption and perception is they just want to up their tribe and fuck to anyone else forever. Until something better comes along.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (+rw6l)

152 132 I'm in GA.

Ossoff is well liked. He keeps a low media profile and is an excellent retail politician.

In a fairly reddish/purple state, he'll likely win.

That's reality.
Posted by: MJ
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Bullshit. Tossoff is not particularly well liked and his mean girl insult of a cancer survivor is not going well because he was largely unknown to GA voters despite being in office for six years.

FWIW, if Tossoff was so popular, why is the vast majority of his money coming from out of state, not GA donors. And the idiot has delusions of grandeur in being hypped by some as their 2028 candidate for prezzie.

It is always a horse race in GA politics but most of the bloviations of the Erick Erickson crew and the flaccid AJC have less value than a smelly fart. At least after you do that, you get some relief--none such is true from reading the AJC or listening to that fat disgusting Erickson whose panties are permanently in a wad.

Posted by: whig at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (E4rtv)

153 >>It's too late to win big - or probably at all - this cycle. They already blew it, big time.

If history is any guide Republicans should lose this cycle. The party out of power usually does well. Look what happened to Democrat under 8 years of Obama.

I don't agree anything has been blown. The fact that Republicans are in the running to retain both the House and Senate is actually a sign of the opposite. No matter how much smoke Democrats blow about El Sayed he's not exactly blowing the doors off in Michigan. He won Dearbornistan and college areas and got smoked with the black vote in Detroit and other urban areas. He was predicted to win his primary by double digits and one by a single point.

Imagine if we had corporate media on our side blowing smoke up our asses 7x24 instead of the opposite. I bet a lot of people who say they don't listen to the media would be a lot more positive about our chances.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (viF8m)

154 Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

And you blew the margins.

Don't do that again.

I didn't post anything at 11:17. Care to elaborate?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

155 > They all rant about the need to "tax the rich" and then tell me they are barely making ends meet.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 18, 2026 11:21 AM (sKqQm)

It's fun when they start ranting about "the 1%" and you point out that, on a global basis, they're in the 1%.

"You'll have to make a few sacrifices on behalf of Mujibur the Bangladeshi garbageman, comrade."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 18, 2026 11:51 AM (IG3/x)

156 I'd rather they look it up to confirm their diagnosis, then pretend they know the answer when they really don't.

than

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

157 The problem with socialism is that they will single you out and make a horrible example of you and other individuals.

To truly combat socialism is you need to wipe out the entire movement in one swift blow. That takes a different mindset.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 18, 2026 11:52 AM (tvdD1)

158 Given the option of selecting medical care from 50 years ago, and medical care today, which would you choose? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Yes, something has been lost, but a lot more has been gained.
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Its closer than you think. the expense is astronomical and you don't get as much service as you used to get, as a result of the cost. You do have some advances in drugs, and less invasive treatment since 1975 - endoscopy, heart cath stents etc etc. I live in a major metropolitan area with huge medical providers and frankly it is a medically underserved area. It is very hard to get in to be seen for an appointment with an actually primary care doctor and you have long waits for cardiology procedures unless you present to the Emergency room. Its starting to look a bit like Canada . . .

Posted by: Allow me to adjust your base premise with a confounding factor at August 18, 2026 11:52 AM (anL5R)

159
So call him a Nazi. It is accurate enough. Nazis were socialists, and they did conspire with muslims, and to this day, many musloids admire Hitler.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2026 11:41 AM (1z8ji)
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Table Talk records Hitler as saying to his cronies that Germany got the "wrong religion" on the subject of Islam.

So yes, pro-Islam is much more Hitlerian than the contrary.

But again, the world has spent a long time believing that national socialism died at the end of WWII and nobody dares re-create a fascist system.

The truth is that all governments became more fascist. However, the CPUSA was trying to spread Stalin's gospel that conservative politics was "fascism", and so we lost track of what really is like fascism.

In Italy, at the start of the school morning, children were reminded that they did not belong to their parents, but their first loyalty was to the State.

Which side in America is more likely to think that children belong first to the State? Many on that side have even said something very like it.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:52 AM (Fi81e)

160 There's a user on X called PsyOpAnime and they trash Mandani pretty thoroughly.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 18, 2026 11:53 AM (+4yJ5)

161 Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

And you blew the margins.

Don't do that again.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Aw, come on!

Posted by: The Margins at August 18, 2026 11:53 AM (CszeO)

162 136 Do you remember going to independent doctor's offices, not owned by some massive health conglomerate? Do you remember actually talking with your doctor and not watching him stare at a laptop?

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That has more to do with PE running health care than Obama. The consolidation of health care providers into a handful of PE backed companies is criminal. But Obama didn’t cause that. PE is a cancer that has been growing since before Obama showed up and long after Obama left. Every industry it touches turns to shit for customers.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (qDa2L)

Ocare magnified it exponentially. Remember, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." ?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 18, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew8)

163 That has more to do with PE running health care than Obama. The consolidation of health care providers into a handful of PE backed companies is criminal. But Obama didn’t cause that. PE is a cancer that has been growing since before Obama showed up and long after Obama left. Every industry it touches turns to shit for customers.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at August 18, 2026 11:42 AM (qDa2L)

I have no idea what "PE" is, but do you understand that increasing regulations, in ANY industry, pushes out small business in favor of large ones? Obamacare is undoubtedly behind the destruction of small businesses and the rise of massive healthcare conglomerates.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2026 11:55 AM (N1DT3)

164 Its closer than you think. the expense is astronomical and you don't get as much service as you used to get, as a result of the cost. You do have some advances in drugs, and less invasive treatment since 1975 - endoscopy, heart cath stents etc etc. I live in a major metropolitan area with huge medical providers and frankly it is a medically underserved area. It is very hard to get in to be seen for an appointment with an actually primary care doctor and you have long waits for cardiology procedures unless you present to the Emergency room. Its starting to look a bit like Canada . . .

I doubt it. I've had a number of procedures in the last few years. Fifty years ago, none of them could have been done with anything like the outcome of today. Furthermore, I know quite a few people who have had various cancers, and the survival rate is much, much higher than it used to be. Sure, there's less of a personal touch, and the areas where government is involved have definitely deteriorated, but technically speaking, and in terms of outcome, there's no comparison. I'll take that.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2026 11:55 AM (Riz8t)

165 Seriously, everybody has to get over the idea that anybody identifies with Republicans. Some vote for them from fear. But any positive feelings anybody still has about the metaphysically useless GOP are for Trump, and only for Trump.

Until you figure out this Party is hated by literally everyone outside the Beltway, you'll keep being mystified about why it can't perform, absent him at the top of the ticket. You'll keep blaming its former voters for their litany of failure. Anything to avoid recognizing that it is metaphysically useless, so they can continue losing with "dignity."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:55 AM (BI5O2)

166 Georgia currently has 2 Dem senators. Why is it so hard to fathom Georgia as a toss up?

Both of these senators had to use a rigged election to steal their offices. In Georgia, we defeated the steal in the last election to elect Trump (the left tried to pull the same shenanigans as in 2020, 2022 - they were stopped in 2024). If we can defeat the cheat in 2026, Ossoff is toast.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 18, 2026 11:55 AM (ZVgZ4)

167 Shockingly, Robert Owen's strongest influence was Locke's "tabula rasa" and his interpretation that society shapes men. Although I like Locke, On Human Understanding does not rank highly with me, and "tabula rasa" is the idea I'm least likely to defend.
Posted by: Axeman
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Tabula rasa was an argument used against Hobbes who argued that men were naturally corrupt and evil. Rhetoric to win an argument when what Locke was really doing is to undermine the case for divine right to rule that most Hobbesians at the time argued, particularly the Stuarts.

If Hobbes was correct, then it would follow that to prevent anarchy, humans did need a strongman with a whip hand over them and they could scarcely be trusted to select leaders. This was all in context of Locke supporting Parliament and the Glorious Revolution rather than actually believing in tabula rasa.

Posted by: whig at August 18, 2026 11:56 AM (E4rtv)

168 When we were talking about Michigan place names in the last thread, I forgot to mention that there’s a Miami Beach in the northern Lower Peninsula.

Posted by: Bulg at August 18, 2026 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

169 To truly combat socialism is you need to wipe out the entire movement in one swift blow. That takes a different mindset.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Tanned, rested & ready!

Posted by: Col Paul Tibbets at August 18, 2026 11:56 AM (CszeO)

170 165 Seriously, everybody has to get over the idea that anybody identifies with Republicans. Some vote for them from fear. But any positive feelings anybody still has about the metaphysically useless GOP are for Trump, and only for Trump.

Until you figure out this Party is hated by literally everyone outside the Beltway, you'll keep being mystified about why it can't perform, absent him at the top of the ticket. You'll keep blaming its former voters for their litany of failure. Anything to avoid recognizing that it is metaphysically useless, so they can continue losing with "dignity."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2026 11:55 AM (BI5O2)

This.

I regularly vote GOP and I despise them.

No one likes this brand and for good reason.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 18, 2026 11:57 AM (QzM4s)

171 Where'd everyone go?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2026 11:58 AM (CszeO)

172 Don't blame teachers. My local school was doing great service to the community (aka "Trump Country!!") by slow-rolling social-emotional learning (SEL).

Evidently the administration was informed that teachers "didn't sufficiently utilize" pre-packaged lessons from an "evidence-based framework".

SEL is not legally required, but Michigan has law MCL 388.1631 which sets aside certain funds. To get that money, schools have to use frameworks that integrate academic and behavioral instruction.

This school year, class time will be sacrificed specifically for SEL lessons and teachers use the pre-packaged lessons. The discussion about it was done at a voluntary meeting in the summer that was announced through work email weeks before the meeting. Nice, huh?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 18, 2026 11:58 AM (D/i12)

173 We don't even like the GOP. What the fuck do they offer anyone else?

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:58 AM (+rw6l)

174 I don't care about stated goals, I just wonder if you think any leftist agitators actually desire utopia because my presumption and perception is they just want to up their tribe and fuck to anyone else forever. Until something better comes along.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2026 11:49 AM (+rw6l)
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I think you're looking at the urge and not the sublimation.

When one sublimates a motivation, it's not a lie if they believe it. So, if they really believe that everything will get better, then they can claw for their Cause--because "it's going to make everybody's lives better".

Here, Robert Owen is actually superior. A wealthy industrialist from Wales, he created 5 communes in America, and paid for everything. At the beginning, he probably really thought he was making lives better.

But the communes merely lived off of his wealth until he abandoned the enterprise. (I'm not sure how he resolved to abandon it). New Harmony in Indiana was sold and resold a couple of times to a new wave of Utopian. One of the last group were convinced that the seas would turn to lemonade. (No shit. Dan Flynn documents most of this in his book A Conservative History of the American Left)

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2026 11:58 AM (Fi81e)

175 When we were talking about Michigan place names in the last thread, I forgot to mention that there’s a Miami Beach in the northern Lower Peninsula.
Posted by: Bulg at August 18, 2026 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

There’s a Miami, Ohio, too. Those Miami Indians sure got around!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 18, 2026 11:59 AM (ZVgZ4)

176 >>Until you figure out this Party is hated by literally everyone outside the Beltway, you'll keep being mystified about why it can't perform, absent him at the top of the ticket.

And yet somehow they are the majority in both the House and Senate.

I would suggest that while Republicans as a whole might not be beloved, Democrats are a whole lot less popular than the media would have people believe.

I hire a politician to do a job. I don't have to love them. While most Republicans are less than ideal, Democrats are fucking nuts and enemy of the American people.

Not a hard choice, really.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)

177 165 Seriously, everybody has to get over the idea that anybody identifies with Republicans. Some vote for them from fear. But any positive feelings anybody still has about the metaphysically useless GOP are for Trump, and only for Trump.

Until you figure out this Party is hated by literally everyone outside the Beltway, you'll keep being mystified about why it can't perform, absent him at the top of the ticket. You'll keep blaming its former voters for their litany of failure. Anything to avoid recognizing that it is metaphysically useless, so they can continue losing with "dignity."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Overdone a bit. No one likes to bash the GOP more than I, but ordinary voters see it as a choice between two evils. The DSA and nutjobs like Sayed and Mamdani though are enough to alarm people that actually have businesses, pay taxes, and otherwise do productive work. Literally no one other than Dem fart sniffers think (and this is reflected in the polls) that the Dems and their vague policy proposals for Congress other than Orangeman Bad will do anything about 'affordability'. GOP sucks, Dems suck more. Indys are the battleground.

Posted by: whig at August 18, 2026 11:59 AM (E4rtv)

178 There is a Miami, TX.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 18, 2026 11:59 AM (jPziU)

179 And yet somehow they are the majority in both the House and Senate.

I would suggest that while Republicans as a whole might not be beloved, Democrats are a whole lot less popular than the media would have people believe.

I hire a politician to do a job. I don't have to love them.

If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.

Posted by: Zombie Truman at August 18, 2026 12:00 PM (Riz8t)

180
I hire a politician to do a job. I don't have to love them. While most Republicans are less than ideal, Democrats are fucking nuts and enemy of the American people.

Not a hard choice, really.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Karen McWinemom at August 18, 2026 12:00 PM (2YhKe)

181 Bullshit. Tossoff is not particularly well liked and his mean girl insult of a cancer survivor is not going well because he was largely unknown to GA voters despite being in office for six years.

FWIW, if Tossoff was so popular, why is the vast majority of his money coming from out of state, not GA donors. And the idiot has delusions of grandeur in being hypped by some as their 2028 candidate for prezzie.

It is always a horse race in GA politics but most of the bloviations of the Erick Erickson crew and the flaccid AJC have less value than a smelly fart. At least after you do that, you get some relief--none such is true from reading the AJC or listening to that fat disgusting Erickson whose panties are permanently in a wad.
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I don't disagree with a lot of this but the reality in GA is that swing voters are suburban women and they like him.

Again, I'm not saying I agree, but that's the reality here. Alpharetta wine moms.

Posted by: MJ at August 18, 2026 12:00 PM (XOmY9)

182 Yeah. What have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: M. Python at August 18, 2026 12:00 PM (2Ez/1)

183 Are there serious and intelligent (insert profession here)? That’s the bigger question.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 18, 2026 12:01 PM (jPziU)

184 Excellent, CBD!
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Oh, pshaw! He's just like a young Obama and the White House Christmas trees with Mao Zedong and drag queen balls.

Just picking on him and his wife. (LA Times, The Great Christmas Ornament Scandal, Part 2, Dc. 27, 2009)

And Mamdani has had to navigate standard administrative management, labor negotiations, and practical friction just like any other executive.

OTOH, the Wall Street Journal opinion piece by Peggy Noonan titled "Take Mamdani Seriously and Literally."

His policy aims must be evaluated at face value so I'll go with Noonan's viewpoint. (We're both older and have more life experience.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 18, 2026 12:01 PM (NFX2v)

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