The Morning Rant: Go After The Big Employers Of Illegals First!

ICE's efforts to rid America of the scourge of violent illegal criminals who prey on our citizens is laudable, and in fact should be expanded. Contrary to the media's portrayal of a country that is upset that violent criminals who try to run down law enforcement get ventilated, most Americans understand that trying to kill cops is a good way to get shot, and aren't troubled by it.

The FBI and other data suggest about 1.25 million violent crimes in 2024, and that's just the reported ones. Law enforcement shot/killed about 1,000 that year, so it certainly isn't some insane number of violent criminals being killed extrajudicially! The number that ICE shoots is a rounding error in the total, so the panty-bunched soi-boys in the corporate GOP and the Democrat Party (but I repeat myself) can shut the f*ck up and sit the f*ck down. And that goes for Markwayne Mullin too, but President Trump already took care of that! [Sefton and I talked a bit about that on our podcast]

But there is another vast reservoir of illegals that seems to have been put on the back burner by the Trump administration. And that is the millions that are employed by our largest companies. The open secret of widespread use of illegal labor in many industries is an obscene dismissal of the Americans who would like to work, but can't. Or the Americans whose wages are depressed because of the millions of additional workers in America who are paid less than the prevailing wage because of their illegal status.

Here are the heavy hitters.

CONSTRUCTION

1. D. R. Horton
2. Lennar
3. Kiewit Corporation
4. Bechtel Corporation
5. Turner Construction
6. PulteGroup
7. EMCOR Group
8. Fluor Corporation
9. MasTec
10. Jacobs Solutions

FOOD PRODUCTION

1. Cargill
2. Tyson Foods
3. JBS USA
4. Pilgrim's Pride
5. Archer Daniels Midland (ADM)
6. Kraft Heinz
7. Smithfield Foods
8. General Mills
9. Hormel Foods
10. Conagra Brands

HOSPITALITY

1. Marriott International
2. Compass Group
3. Sodexo
4. Aramark
5. Hilton Worldwide
6. Hyatt Hotels
7. MGM Resorts International
8. Wyndham Hotels & Resorts
9. Choice Hotels International
10. Las Vegas Sands

Notice that Joe's Landscaping, and Quality Painting, and ABC Roofing, are nowhere to be found on those lists. And that is because the enforcement that I suggest should start at the very top, and target our largest corporations that knowingly, in direct violation of The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, employee illegals. Leave the little guys alone for now, and focus on the companies that are public, with boards of directors and CEOs and presidents who can be held criminally liable for the lawbreaking of their companies.

A few videos of the CEOs of Hormel and Bechtel and Hyatt being cuffed and thrown into the back of a police car would do wonders to focus the minds of the remaining executives!

And enforcement would be easier, since these large corporations keep meticulous records, and any halfway decent forensic accountant would be able to find the illegals. And yes, the pathetic government systems that give these companies an out by being able to say, "Well, we checked through E-Verify," need to be improved. They are not the only ones who are complicit...our government is its own worst enemy.

Concurrent with that enforcement should be an increase in the fines for employing illegals. Today it is a paltry $3,000/worker and imprisonment for up to six months. Those fines should be per worker, per day, and imprisonment should be more significant. And that imprisonment should be reserved for the highest corporate executive, not the clerk in the hiring office. And perhaps rewards for whistleblowers who rat out their CEOs! That would be a delicious way to energize the country and show our workers that they are not the targets...their bosses are.

Yes...that is rank populist sleaze, but it would work, and we do not have the luxury of taking the high road any more. Ronald Reagan took the high road in 1986, and the Democrats mugged him and left him on the side of that road with no pants.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:00 AM (2YhKe)

2 I don't see Big Penguin up there.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:01 AM (2YhKe)

3 Reagan's two biggest mistakes:

1. Choosing Bush Sr. as his VP;
2. That immigration "reform" law.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

4 umpteenth.

And the IRS figures out a hundred million tax returns down to the dollar every year, but we can't verify work eligibility or count votes.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 16, 2026 11:03 AM (w/O5Q)

5 The FBI and other data suggest about 1.25 million violent crimes in 2024, and that's just the reported ones. Law enforcement shot/killed about 1,000 that year, so it certainly isn't some insane number of violent criminals being killed extrajudicially! The number that ICE shoots is a rounding error in the total, so the panty-bunched soi-boys in the corporate GOP and the Democrat Party (but I repeat myself) can shut the f*ck up and sit the f*ck down.

I watch a few of the federal cop shows on TV. So do millions of other Americans.

They ventilate 2 to 3 perps an episode. NCIS: Los Angeles never met a suspect it didn't ventilate before interrogating.

But people suddenly have an issue with criminals being given the taxpayer relief shot?

Art imitates life imitates art, silly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:04 AM (2YhKe)

6 Democrats mugged him and left on the side of that old dirt road with no pants.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 16, 2026 11:04 AM (Kt19C)

7 So I was reading a lefty forum as I sometimes do and they have a thread on someone gently pushing one of those anti-oil protestors out of the road with his car.

The lefties all in unison say this is assault with a dangerous weapon and the driver should get real prison time.

I guess when an illegal does it though its ok because to quote Tony Fauci "They have rights unlike American (British) citizens"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

8 I think that you should send your rant to President Trump if you haven't already done so. It's important!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 11:05 AM (D+BhG)

9 I think this would get bipartisan support. The progs get their screw the big corps, and we get immigration enforcement that results in the employment of Americans.

Posted by: Penfold at July 16, 2026 11:05 AM (Fbt5B)

10 Lefty standards of justice:

Peacefully protesting a stolen election = shoot her in the neck FAFO b*tch

Trying to ride down a cop in your car because you are in illegal = well obviously sometimes you need to let someone run you over.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)

11 Someone should put this thread in Tom Homan, Markwayne Mullin and Donald Trump's Xcrement feeds.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:06 AM (2YhKe)

12 Time for the new slavers to pay up and stop slaving.

Posted by: Uncle Tom at July 16, 2026 11:07 AM (F1rMs)

13 3 Reagan's two biggest mistakes:

1. Choosing Bush Sr. as his VP;
2. That immigration "reform" law.
Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

I was a wee little monster when that happened but now it seems that Bush Sr. was Reagan's Mike Pence. He was Deep State and Spooky and I think meant as a, well, bulwark against Reagan.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 16, 2026 11:07 AM (w/O5Q)

14 Mullin fucked up. He has been good up to this point. I won't write him off yet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 16, 2026 11:08 AM (wOO3z)

15 PulteGroup? Isn't there a Pulte in the administration? I wonder if Trump has ever addressed this with him.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:08 AM (77rzZ)

16 Reagan choose Bush 41 to pacify the GOPe. Honestly the problem then only really came to a head in '88 when he won the presidential nod.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2026 11:08 AM (sKqQm)

17 This is the way

Posted by: doug at July 16, 2026 11:08 AM (B1+sW)

18 10 Lefty standards of justice:

Peacefully protesting a stolen election = shoot her in the neck FAFO b*tch

Trying to ride down a cop in your car because you are in illegal = well obviously sometimes you need to let someone run you over.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm
If wasn’t for low standards they wouldn’t have no standards at all.

Posted by: Eromero at July 16, 2026 11:09 AM (6tDvd)

19 I was a wee little monster when that happened but now it seems that Bush Sr. was Reagan's Mike Pence. He was Deep State and Spooky and I think meant as a, well, bulwark against Reagan.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls

Yeah, Bush was bad news. I'm reading a book about the Bush family now, "Family of Secrets." No bueno

Reagan should've gone with Howard Baker instead.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

20 One thing the left does is get its activists paid.

Paying conservatives for turning in illegals/employers of illegals is a way to get conservative activists paid.

Not only is it a good idea it is smart politics.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

21 > But there is another vast reservoir of illegals that seems to have been put on the back burner by the Trump administration.
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IIRC they've been told that when the existing work permits expire (soon) they've all gotta' go or big fines await. 100's of thousands of illegals should be set to bug out in a month or so.

I've put on my tin-foil hat and supposed that the parasitic outbreak of explosive diarrhea is deliberate. What sort of case the food industry can make to keep the illegals to suppress explosive diarrhea is debatable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:10 AM (jehhT)

22 IIRC they've been told that when the existing work permits expire (soon) they've all gotta' go or big fines await. 100's of thousands of illegals should be set to bug out in a month or so.

If that's true, it will be something they can't cover up, so we'll know. The real question, though, is whether the illegals will then leave the country.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

23 Reagan should've gone with Howard Baker instead.
Posted by: Bulg
________

He was the good Baker, right? I get him confused with James.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (XvL8K)

24 What sort of case the food industry can make to keep the illegals to suppress explosive diarrhea is debatable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:10 AM (jehhT)

I'll happily make the opposite case. I want only Americans working in food production. Most of them know how to read, were brought up with standards of cleanliness that don't exist in the 3rd World, and are far more trainable because they speak English.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (l4RKn)

25 A lot oh those construction firms have been contractors since WW I. Think about it.

Posted by: Eromero at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (6tDvd)

26 Reagan should've gone with Howard Baker instead.
Posted by: Bulg
________

He was the good Baker, right? I get him confused with James.

I think they were both GOPe, but of the two, I'd prefer Howard.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

27 Couple of those construction companies are major contractors for things like refineries and power plants. You probably won't sleep better thinking about semi-literate nonentities setting up valves and control rods.

For food and motel jobs, you're literally going to have to draft home-grown people to do the work, and for quite a while they won't be good at it. Low level of skill, you might think, but there's still a rhythm and pace to those jobs that you should learn young, and we just haven't. There will be an awkward period of adjustment. You won't be able to pay people to stay home, as has been our custom. Best done on a "war footing."

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 16, 2026 11:14 AM (zdLoL)

28 Couldn't agree more. It's no wonder that all these brand new subdivisions that keep going up in places like Arizona are complete shit construction. CyFy channel is a good one. From the windows to the roofing to the bathroom fixtures to the gas installation, they're trash. And these are expensively priced houses. Everything has become a race to the bottom for finding the cheapest, not the best, labor possible and to squeeze the last possible dollar out of every sucker they can rather than provide value for money. And this has led to the enshittification of basically everything.

Posted by: And fuck you John McCain! at July 16, 2026 11:14 AM (TbWk/)

29 Lots of congresscritters and senators won't say no to the big corporations that hire illegals, they'll enact toothless laws that won't be enforced to give the appearance of "doing something". It would be another "con the rubes" theatrical.

But big trial lawyers have a say too. Suppose legislation was written to enable ambulance chasers to sue the companies that hire the illegals who commit violent crimes or kill somebody in a car accident. Money talks.

Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM (7I+3n)

30 Michelle Obama gripes that media fixated on her outfits rather than her "powerful" oratory.
"It wouldn't matter what I said. The article would start with what I had on. And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics."
The perpetual grievance tour continues.

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She's the Cicero of the 21st century!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM (ndZc7)

31 He was the good Baker, right? I get him confused with James.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (XvL8K)

James Baker was a sleazy, backstabbing prick. The epitome of corporate GOP.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM (l4RKn)

32 What does Old Lady Cloggenstein think about this idea?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

33 25 A lot oh those construction firms have been contractors since WW I. Think about it.
Posted by: Eromero at July 16, 2026 11:13 AM (6tDvd

I meant DoD contractors.

Posted by: Eromero at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (6tDvd)

34 >>>most Americans understand that trying to kill cops is a good way to get shot, and aren't troubled by it

100%

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (6wpGE)

35 Most of them know how to read, were brought up with standards of cleanliness that don't exist in the 3rd World, and are for more trainable because they speak English.

You're in for some horrifying realizations about your brother man.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (zdLoL)

36 I've put on my tin-foil hat and supposed that the parasitic outbreak of explosive diarrhea is deliberate. What sort of case the food industry can make to keep the illegals to suppress explosive diarrhea is debatable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:10 AM (jehhT)

I've never seen a robot shit in a field. There's an inevitable cost calculation, and when the robots are cheaper than illegals, it's all over. Driving up the cost of using illegals will hasten this transition.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (w/O5Q)

37 Reagan should've gone with Howard Baker instead.
Posted by: Bulg

Or Betty Crocker.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:17 AM (ndZc7)

38 Shut up, ya old wookie. We obsessed over your toned arms.

Posted by: The Dying Media at July 16, 2026 11:17 AM (2Ez/1)

39 Ronald Reagan took the high road in 1986, and the Democrats mugged him and left him on the side of that road with no pants.

And they did it with the weekly Book Thread coming up!

Is there no end to the perfidiousness of the Democrats??

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 16, 2026 11:17 AM (0sNs1)

40 What does Old Lady Cloggenstein think about this idea?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

Barack Owebama was a man of coler and Michelle was bewtiful. They both brot hope and change to the peepl.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:17 AM (2YhKe)

41 For food and motel jobs, you're literally going to have to draft home-grown people to do the work, and for quite a while they won't be good at it. Low level of skill, you might think, but there's still a rhythm and pace to those jobs that you should learn young, and we just haven't. There will be an awkward period of adjustment. You won't be able to pay people to stay home, as has been our custom.

Agreed. It's easy to demonize illegals, but the fact is that many of them are very hard workers, while many Americans are lazy by comparison.

I went to Costco this morning, and the guy putting my stuff in the cart was American. He was bright, cheerful, and efficient. For that matter, so was the woman running the register, who was clearly Hispanic but had no accent. That's encouraging.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

42 36 I've put on my tin-foil hat and supposed that the parasitic outbreak of explosive diarrhea is deliberate. What sort of case the food industry can make to keep the illegals to suppress explosive diarrhea is debatable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:10 AM (jehhT)

I've never seen a robot shit in a field. There's an inevitable cost calculation, and when the robots are cheaper than illegals, it's all over. Driving up the cost of using illegals will hasten this transition.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (w/O5Q)

We've had multiple outbreaks every year - this only got publicized b/c Trump cut funds from the department.

Most times, it's imported produce (we've only had a few from US produced produce)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 16, 2026 11:18 AM (tOcjL)

43 Yes...that is rank populist sleaze, but it would work, and we do not have the luxury of taking the high road any more. Ronald Reagan took the high road in 1986, and the Democrats mugged him and left him on the side of that road with no pants.

I disagree with calling this rank populist sleaze. These guys are bad actors, they're the ones in charge of the company's business practices, and need to be held responsible for at minimum turning a blind eye to the illegal practices of their companies so they can squeeze the balance sheets a little harder and get a bigger bonus.

Posted by: Simple accountability, I'd call it at July 16, 2026 11:18 AM (TbWk/)

44 He was the good Baker, right? I get him confused with James.

I think they were both GOPe, but of the two, I'd prefer Howard.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yeah, Howard seemed like a decent man, and wasn't spooked up like Bush was. He later served as Reagan's Chief of Staff. Also married Sen. Nancy Kassebaum of Kansas.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:19 AM (77rzZ)

45 "It wouldn't matter what I said. The article would start with what I had on. And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics."

Now do Melania. She dresses better, carries herself better and is an overall better person than you, yet all they can do is trash her because Orange Man Bad.

GFY, ingrate c*nt.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:19 AM (2YhKe)

46 FYI - Ohio has laws on the books prohibiting employers from discriminating in hiring based on immigration status. And I'm sure every employer, every judge, all law enforcement, every legislator, every governor, gives a wink and nod knowing this means tens of thousands of illegals are getting jobs in Ohio. GOP is complicit. Bring back tar & feathers.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2026 11:19 AM (CxEzx)

47 most Americans understand that trying to kill cops is a good way to get shot, and aren't troubled by it

100%
Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (6wpGE)

There's a Chris Rock instructional video out there about this.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:20 AM (2YhKe)

48 I saw Rank Populist Sleaze open for Rage Against the Machine. TBF, I was there against my will.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (amcLV)

49 so they can squeeze the balance sheets a little harder and get a bigger bonus.
Posted by: Simple accountability, I'd call it at July 16, 2026 11:18 AM

Dude, have you tried living on only $8 million? It can't be done. Ask Bernie.

Posted by: Large Corporation CEOs at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (0sNs1)

50 Here's an idea:

Gastarbeiter
noun
a person with temporary permission to work in another country, especially in Germany: the Gastarbeiter who sustained the German economic miracle.

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (6wpGE)

51 Michelle Obama gripes that media fixated on her outfits rather than her "powerful" oratory.
"It wouldn't matter what I said. The article would start with what I had on. And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics."
The perpetual grievance tour continues.

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She's the Cicero of the 21st century!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:15 AM

All she ever talked about was how bad her life was and how she was constantly held back by the white man.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (0N4FZ)

52 47 most Americans understand that trying to kill cops is a good way to get shot, and aren't troubled by it

100%
Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:16 AM (6wpGE)

There's a Chris Rock instructional video out there about this.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:20 AM (2YhKe)

Haha! There is!

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (6wpGE)

53 I saw Rank Populist Sleaze open for Rage Against the Machine. TBF, I was there against my will.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (amcLV)

TBF, Rage was entertaining as f*ck in the early years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)

54
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (6wpGE)

55 Gastarbeiter
noun
a person with temporary permission to work in another country, especially in Germany: the Gastarbeiter who sustained the German economic miracle.
Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (6wpGE)
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That's why Germany now has a huge ethnic Turkish population.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (amcLV)

56 For food and motel jobs, you're literally going to have to draft home-grown people to do the work, and for quite a while they won't be good at it. Low level of skill, you might think, but there's still a rhythm and pace to those jobs that you should learn young, and we just haven't. There will be an awkward period of adjustment. You won't be able to pay people to stay home, as has been our custom.

We have a ton of Abuela's and Abuela adjacents that are homegrown that would do that work. And it doesn't just have to be Hispanic. Everyone can do those jobs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:23 AM (u3HiE)

57 You don't need a forensic accountant to find illegal alien employees. The IRS facilitates hiring illegal aliens by allowing them to file income tax returns using ITINs while working using false SSNs. To file with an ITIN, you have to report the income that was reported to you on a W-2 under your false SSN. It is self-reported, but the government does nothing because it wants an illegal workforce.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 16, 2026 11:23 AM (wGerL)

58
All she ever talked about was how bad her life was and how she was constantly held back by the white man.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 16, 2026 11:21 AM (0N4FZ)

She grift her way all the way to the White House. Best part is, she never had to suck Barack's dick to get there! Fat, white homosexuals took care of THAT bit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:23 AM (2YhKe)

59 > I've never seen a robot shit in a field.
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Not literally, but when a piece of farm equipment goes down it's a pretty big deal. Most of the big, expensive equipment around here is shared among several farms for that reason.

But, a lack of basic, unskilled human labor would certainly hasten the adoption of robots. And probably result in a steep increase in prices... for a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:23 AM (jehhT)

60 50 Here's an idea:

Gastarbeiter
noun
a person with temporary permission to work in another country, especially in Germany: the Gastarbeiter who sustained the German economic miracle.

How many of them went home permanently? That's right, none.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)

61 Homeland Security
@DHSgov
.@GovTimWalz on why ICE shouldn’t have deported this child rapist: “we can’t all be judged by our worst day.”
For Tou Lue Vang this wasn’t just one “worst day” — it was YEARS of repeatedly sexually assaulting a girl starting when she was 10.
Just disgraceful.

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OK. OK, we can’t all be judged by a few of our worst days.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (ndZc7)

62 Gastarbeiter
noun
a person with temporary permission to work in another country, especially in Germany: the Gastarbeiter who sustained the German economic miracle.
Posted by: m

And when they become proficient and are no longer a journeyman, they become a Mastarbeiter.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (u3HiE)

63 >TBF, Rage was entertaining as f*ck in the early years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)

Until Zach and Morello got high sniffing each others farts.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (GTqXr)

64 We have a rather large number of Mexican restaurants in town. It's a small town but there seem to be an inordinate number of places. Most of them have posted signs in the window or doors that they are here legally and offer to show their green cards or immigration docs.

It's interesting. One can holler ¡La migra! and there is no mad rush for the exits.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (pyNYl)

65 Saw a trailer for The Brink of War about Reagan's meeting with Gorbachev at Reykjavik.
J.K. Simmons plays George Schultz.
He knows a thing or two because he's seen a thing or two.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

66 PulteGroup? Isn't there a Pulte in the administration? I wonder if Trump has ever addressed this with him.

Yes. Son of the founder of Pulte Group. Which is why it most likely won't be addressed. I'd love to be wrong about that but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (vTZFs)

67 Pursuit suspect jumped in to ocean, he's way off shore. He's hosed, cop boats hovering. Must think he's online, no pants.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (Kt19C)

68
Until Zach and Morello got high sniffing each others farts.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (GTqXr)

Valid. Spot on, actually.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (2YhKe)

69 63 >TBF, Rage was entertaining as f*ck in the early years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)

Until Zach and Morello got high sniffing each others farts.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (GTqXr)

Which escalated to sniffing their own farts.

Posted by: Insufferable twats at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM (TbWk/)

70 I disagree with calling this rank populist sleaze. These guys are bad actors, they're the ones in charge of the company's business practices, and need to be held responsible for at minimum turning a blind eye to the illegal practices of their companies so they can squeeze the balance sheets a little harder and get a bigger bonus.

Posted by: Simple accountability, I'd call it

And it's part of a larger, long-term pattern of blatant wage suppression by use of foreign labor, be it Juan Amigo on the construction site or some Indian H1-B (or offshore worker) in tech.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM (OUMaO)

71 Alternative headline:

Michelle Obama says media who covered xer while in the White House can suck xer dick

Posted by: one hour sober at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc)

72 Not literally, but when a piece of farm equipment goes down it's a pretty big deal. Most of the big, expensive equipment around here is shared among several farms for that reason.

But, a lack of basic, unskilled human labor would certainly hasten the adoption of robots. And probably result in a steep increase in prices... for a while.

I haven't seen anything specific about it, but I'm pretty sure AI will do a LOT to improve mechanized harvesting, and farm work in general.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

73 He knows a thing or two because he's seen a thing or two.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

My dog hates the Farmers jingle and barks at the TV every time it comes on.

"You get that bad insurance company!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:26 AM (2YhKe)

74 44 He was the good Baker, right? I get him confused with James.

I think they were both GOPe, but of the two, I'd prefer Howard.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yeah, Howard seemed like a decent man, and wasn't spooked up like Bush was. He later served as Reagan's Chief of Staff. Also married Sen. Nancy Kassebaum of Kansas.
Posted by: Bulg
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Reagan wanted Paul Laxalt of Nevada as VP. The whole GOPe revolt trying to push Gerald Ford as Co-Prezzie VP meant that was impossible if Reagan did not want GOPe assholes from walking and supporting John Anderson who ran anyway. So Reagan was forced to pick GHWB to keep the peace.

They pulled the same stunt with Trump.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:26 AM (E4rtv)

75 I think JBS and Pilgrim's are the same company. I think Tyson sources a lot from JBS/Pilgrim's, but I can't remember for sure.

Posted by: meh at July 16, 2026 11:26 AM (kK7U2)

76 Eww, Turner is union and EMCORE has contractors that are union affiliated. I wonder how many illegals are in the union without papers.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:26 AM (2noDb)

77 .@GovTimWalz on why ICE shouldn’t have deported this child rapist: “we can’t all be judged by our worst day.”
For Tou Lue Vang this wasn’t just one “worst day” — it was YEARS of repeatedly sexually assaulting a girl starting when she was 10.
Just disgraceful.

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OK. OK, we can’t all be judged by a few of our worst days.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:24 AM

Some people may have done some things.
If so, mistakes may have been made.
If so, they were done in the enthusiasm of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

OrangeMan Bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: (D)emocrats & the MSM at July 16, 2026 11:26 AM (0sNs1)

78 Ask your pulmonologist if Gastarbeiter is right for you.

Posted by: Big Phat Pharma at July 16, 2026 11:27 AM (2Ez/1)

79 Michelle Obama says media who covered xer while in the White House can suck xer dick
Posted by: one hour sober at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc)

The best thing about Michelle is that we can f*ck each other in the ass at the same time.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Owebama at July 16, 2026 11:27 AM (2YhKe)

80 And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics
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Didnt "realize" it when your husband called Sarah Palin a pig though, eh? Go fuck yourself and your phony agitation and complaining off a short cliff, cunt.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (LuIt4)

81 @GovTimWalz on why ICE shouldn’t have deported this child rapist: “we can’t all be judged by our worst day.”

This man should be launched into the ocean via trebuchet to become shark shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (2YhKe)

82 This is not who we are.

Posted by: CoC Republicans at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (rJ48h)

83 If you don't fix e-verify, there is no way these companies will ever be able to comply. If the documents match at time of hire, at the levels they are hiring all over the country, especially in food and hospitality, where the hiring is done locally, they are going to hire them.

We can get all high and mighty about it. But they cannot police it themselves if the e-verify system tells them different.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (GZYu7)

84 But, a lack of basic, unskilled human labor would certainly hasten the adoption of robots. And probably result in a steep increase in prices... for a while.

I haven't seen anything specific about it, but I'm pretty sure AI will do a LOT to improve mechanized harvesting, and farm work in general.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Yep. And also many of the issues dealing with the aged in nursing homes, etc. Japan is already implementing robots for just that. Tasks like bathing the elderly, being a companion, etc.

But employers and far too many investors want cheap labor instead of bots.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (E4rtv)

85 Reagan wanted Paul Laxalt of Nevada as VP. The whole GOPe revolt trying to push Gerald Ford as Co-Prezzie VP meant that was impossible if Reagan did not want GOPe assholes from walking and supporting John Anderson who ran anyway. So Reagan was forced to pick GHWB to keep the peace.

They pulled the same stunt with Trump.

After the fall elections, I suspect the rest of the GOP will tell the GOPe types to get bent. If they walk away to support someone else, it will almost certainly result in them losing their next election.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

86 It's interesting. One can holler ¡La migra! and there is no mad rush for the exits.
Posted by: Tonypete

Not that I have done such a thing mind you. heh.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (pyNYl)

87 Which escalated to sniffing their own farts.
Posted by: Insufferable twats at July 16, 2026 11:25 AM

To be fair, they are the best.

Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) & Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 16, 2026 11:29 AM (0sNs1)

88 And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics

The media knew you brought nothing to the table, so they went with the easiest thing to blow smoke about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:29 AM (2YhKe)

89 After the fall elections, I suspect the rest of the GOP will tell the GOPe types to get bent. If they walk away to support someone else, it will almost certainly result in them losing their next election.

But nothing will happen, or something.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

90
To be fair, they are the best.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) & Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 16, 2026 11:29 AM (0sNs1)

Taking "gas"ligting to a whole different level.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:30 AM (2YhKe)

91 lighting....damn fingers.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:30 AM (2YhKe)

92 Ronaldus Magnus was awesome but he ran out of steam in his second term including that 86 immigration bill; he did get pantsed…. Then Iran-Contra and he was losing it mentally…. Too bad he didn’t beat Ford in 76…. No Carter!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 11:30 AM (YVMaE)

93 After Tesla perfects the Juan 1000 field worker they will begin on the Maria 1500 maid.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 16, 2026 11:31 AM (XdPwa)

94 It's interesting. One can holler ¡La migra! and there is no mad rush for the exits.
Posted by: Tonypete

Not that I have done such a thing mind you. heh.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (pyNYl)
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Alto, todos! Immigracion!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:31 AM (amcLV)

95 83 If you don't fix e-verify, there is no way these companies will ever be able to comply. If the documents match at time of hire, at the levels they are hiring all over the country, especially in food and hospitality, where the hiring is done locally, they are going to hire them.

We can get all high and mighty about it. But they cannot police it themselves if the e-verify system tells them different.
Posted by: Black JEM

First step though is requiring E-Verify for all federal contractors (best if statute requires E-Verify being used but that takes Congress). Right now, E-Verify is actually voluntary--it gives you a safe harbor as an employer if you use it but a lot don't because of cheap labor. Any scam is that you hire 'contractors' to hire the illegals to work for the contractor. So plausible deniability.

You make it more and more difficult for corporations and costly for compliance, then they will reluctantly be forced to get rid of their addictive cheap illegal labor pool.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:32 AM (E4rtv)

96 It's interesting. One can holler ¡La migra! and there is no mad rush for the exits.
Posted by: Tonypete

Not that I have done such a thing mind you. heh.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (pyNYl)

I've never driven around the barrio in an unmarked white panel van.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:32 AM (2YhKe)

97 GovTimWalz on why ICE shouldn’t have deported this child rapist: “we can’t all be judged by our worst day.”
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Jesus roflcopters of hell, what is this shit?

Why do the Left only bring in half-tenets of Christianity for child rapists but not, say, "people who sometimes disagree or say a bad word or the wrong pronoun. These fucking people and their bullshit will never ever ever stop until the typed deletes of typing deletes type the deletes.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:32 AM (LuIt4)

98 So the Brits are being told to stock up with a years worth of supplies because of the Russians and asymetrical war.
Huh.
I wonder what they know we don't? Or are they just diverting attention away from the shithole mess they have become so aim to blame an outsider?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (2WIwB)

99 You occasionally see 'gators on Florida golf courses. Well, in Canada . . .

https://tinyurl.com/mtc2e7wm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (6wpGE)

101 Second terms have been a *yuge* problem for every modem president. Trump is trying to break that spell.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (LuIt4)

102 After the fall elections, I suspect the rest of the GOP will tell the GOPe types to get bent. If they walk away to support someone else, it will almost certainly result in them losing their next election.
Posted by: Archimedes

GOPe is slowly disappearing as many of the people that would have been GOPe by social status, money, and education have become Democrats. But the Country Club Republican stereotype has a reason for its existence and has hurt the GOP for decades. If you go back to Nixon, he discussed Pat Nixon's cloth coat (rather than mink, etc.), the family dog being a gift, etc. And truly Nixon grew up more deprived than most Democrat politicians that he beat. When he went to Duke Law School, he lived in a shack with no running water for example. And poker winnings in the Navy in WWII helped fuel his first political campaign.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:35 AM (E4rtv)

103 ... he's not doing a very good job of it right now.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (2noDb)

104 lighting....damn fingers.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 11:30 AM (2YhKe)

Yeah. Here too. Woke up to a big lightening storm.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (2WIwB)

105 99 You occasionally see 'gators on Florida golf courses. Well, in Canada . . .

https://tinyurl.com/mtc2e7wm
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)

Oh of course it has to be a BLACK bear. Way to perpetuate stereotypes!

Posted by: Check the local pawn shops... at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/)

106 You occasionally see 'gators on Florida golf courses. Well, in Canada . . .

https://tinyurl.com/mtc2e7wm
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)
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Yogi, that ain't a pick-a-nick basket...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (amcLV)

107 Here are the heavy hitters.

I think they've already been dealt with, but it's the institutional investors (Black Rock, State Street, etc.) who put all those executives and board members and policies in place.

Of course, there are layers on top of them, too. The banks, central banks, families...

Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (aZ9eR)

108 Imagine being Mooch Obama the most politically friendly covered woman in politics of all time and complaining you haven't been treated right.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:37 AM (LuIt4)

109 who are paid less than the prevailing wage because of their illegal status"

But yet take home more $$$ than the legal folks

Posted by: man at July 16, 2026 11:37 AM (XuXeR)

110 98 So the Brits are being told to stock up with a years worth of supplies because of the Russians and asymetrical war.
Huh.
I wonder what they know we don't? Or are they just diverting attention away from the shithole mess they have become so aim to blame an outsider?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2026 11:34 AM (2WIwB)

BBC doesn't have a story on that.

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (6wpGE)

111 101 Second terms have been a *yuge* problem for every modem president. Trump is trying to break that spell.
Posted by: ...
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I think a lot of second term blues come about from the barnacles that a presidential administration gets over time. These are low functioning treacherous types that stick on the ship of state because they have no other options and they gum up the works.

Trump got a pretty clean flush of the GOPe apparatchiks that his first term had far too many of. As a result, his second term is far closer to what Trump intended than his first which is true for his voting bloc as well.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (E4rtv)

112 Some crop harvesting is delicate and no mechanical device has yet to be invented that could do what human hands can do.

Whether this is at the picking stage or whatever comes next. There's certainly room for bots, but no incentives as of yet that I'm aware of.

Cheap, human labor's going to be around for a while longer I think.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (jehhT)

113 I agree - start with the big guys Whats the problem with e verify- too many fraudulent IDs?

Posted by: LASue at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (lCppi)

114 Imagine being Mooch Obama the most politically friendly covered woman in politics of all time and complaining you haven't been treated right.
Posted by: ...

It's because we are all jealous of her toned arms.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (pyNYl)

115 If you don't fix e-verify, there is no way these companies will ever be able to comply. If the documents match at time of hire, at the levels they are hiring all over the country, especially in food and hospitality, where the hiring is done locally, they are going to hire them.

We can get all high and mighty about it. But they cannot police it themselves if the e-verify system tells them different.
Posted by: Black JEM

You want to see every illegal fired on the spot?

Catch one illegal at a Tyson facility. Have the government take that facility in the same vein as they do with a drug dealer's house and vehicles.

Asset forfeiture is a thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:39 AM (u3HiE)

116 108 Imagine being Mooch Obama ...
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:37 AM (LuIt4)

ewww

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:39 AM (6wpGE)

117
This hits the nail on the head.

A local lumber mill and a house framer both got hit with having a total of 6 Guatemalans working for them 4 years ago.

Big local media fanfare.

Not that they'd be any help, but I haven't heard anything from the Teamsters about all the foreign truck drivers, either.

Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2026 11:39 AM (Y8DZL)

118 You occasionally see 'gators on Florida golf courses. Well, in Canada . . .

I remember that one. How does he know to pick up golf bags by the top of the strap?! He's done this before.

Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2026 11:39 AM (aZ9eR)

119 Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:36 AM (2noDb)

The second term curse is real. Whether this one is good or not will remain to be seen, and can only be judged in hindsight. I'm not unhappy but my standards are basically "are the boxcars rolling in for the normies yet?".

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:39 AM (LuIt4)

120 We can get all high and mighty about it. But they cannot police it themselves if the e-verify system tells them different.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:28 AM (GZYu7)

You are of course correct. But there is also a massive amount of willful ignorance. When E-Verify tells you that "John Smith," a 5'5" mestizo who speaks zero English is a legal worker,, alarm bells should go off.

They don't, because corporate America doesn't want to know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:40 AM (l4RKn)

121 Some crop harvesting is delicate and no mechanical device has yet to be invented that could do what human hands can do.
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Commercially available tomatoes are tasteless baseballs because they've been bred to withstand mechanical pickers.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 16, 2026 11:40 AM (amcLV)

122 114 Imagine being Mooch Obama the most politically friendly covered woman in politics of all time and complaining you haven't been treated right.
Posted by: ...

It's because we are all jealous of her toned arms.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:38 AM (pyNYl)

And her 8-inch dick.

Posted by: Even The Paolo had to give props at July 16, 2026 11:41 AM (TbWk/)

123 Thx CBD.
A year or so back there was a photo of US citizens applying for work at a food processing facility which had been raided by ICE .
Killed the narrative that they illegals take jobs citizens won't

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 16, 2026 11:41 AM (OXYE0)

124 but I'm pretty sure AI will do a LOT to improve mechanized harvesting, and farm work in general"

Automation has already drastically changed Ag. What 25 years ago took a bus load of hands is now two folks with tablets. It's amazing.

Posted by: man at July 16, 2026 11:41 AM (XuXeR)

125 You are of course correct. But there is also a massive amount of willful ignorance. When E-Verify tells you that "John Smith," a 5'5" mestizo who speaks zero English is a legal worker,, alarm bells should go off.

They don't, because corporate America doesn't want to know.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

They would if the government would start confiscating property. Assert forfeiture is a thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:41 AM (u3HiE)

126 Cheap, human labor's going to be around for a while longer I think.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Could we go back to the old ways? You know, Americans NOT shitting in the fields they're working?

Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2026 11:42 AM (aZ9eR)

127 When Marxism comes, all the labor will be free.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:42 AM (LuIt4)

128 Fraudulent ID'S are a huge problem.

Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (afJtY)

129 The second term curse is real"

Watch out for more UFO crap...

Posted by: man at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (XuXeR)

130 First step though is requiring E-Verify for all federal contractors (best if statute requires E-Verify being used but that takes Congress). Right now, E-Verify is actually voluntary--it gives you a safe harbor as an employer if you use it but a lot don't because of cheap labor. Any scam is that you hire 'contractors' to hire the illegals to work for the contractor. So plausible deniability.

You make it more and more difficult for corporations and costly for compliance, then they will reluctantly be forced to get rid of their addictive cheap illegal labor pool.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:32 AM (E4rtv)
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I'm curious on that list, how many do and do not. We are a small employer and use the service for all hires. We have had a few people fail, we require a failed response, or if a failure to finally produce proper documents, to correct everything in just a few days, if not they are termed.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (GZYu7)

131 Some crop harvesting is delicate and no mechanical device has yet to be invented that could do what human hands can do.

Whether this is at the picking stage or whatever comes next. There's certainly room for bots, but no incentives as of yet that I'm aware of.

Cheap, human labor's going to be around for a while longer I think.

I thought of blackberries as the worst case scenario. The harvesting method depends on how they're going to be used.

For processing (purees, jams, and freezing), commercial growers use over-the-row harvesters. These machines straddle trellised rows and use spiked-drum shakers or oscillating beater rods to violently shake the berries off the canes onto catching plates. Because the fruit destined for processing is generally hardier and meant for immediate freezing, bruising or minor damage is acceptable. Some high-tech air harvesters are also used, which utilize targeted air jets to knock the ripe berries onto pneumatic pillows.

Heh. He said pneumatic pillows.
(1 of 2)

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

132 When E-Verify tells you that "John Smith," a 5'5" mestizo who speaks zero English is a legal worker,, alarm bells should go off.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:40 AM

Don't forget the Moe Howard bowl haircut.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (kgE5c)

133 (2 of 2)
For fresh-market sales (sold in plastic clamshells at grocery stores), mechanical shaking cannot be used. Fresh blackberries are incredibly delicate; rough handling causes internal bruising, leakage, and red drupelet reversion (where black berries turn red). Because of this, fresh-market blackberries are almost exclusively hand-picked, which is highly labor-intensive and expensive. However, agricultural universities are currently developing and patenting "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers and built-in sensors to pluck fresh berries with the same gentle touch as a human hand

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

134 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (afJtY)

That would be a lack of work ethic period, then.

The only reason the ethic might improve in an office would be that there isn't much work there.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (LuIt4)

135 Imagine being Mooch Obama ...
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:37 AM (LuIt4)

ewww
Posted by: m
________

Deep down, (s)he has to know she's a total fraud, no matter how she's tried to justify it to herself on the surface. The conscience is the most dangerous organ to suppress.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (XvL8K)

136 Imagine being Mooch Obama the most politically friendly covered woman in politics of all time and complaining you haven't been treated right.

We have (so far at least) failed to recognize her divine right as queen. We need to be better.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (b242i)

137 Military procurement.

Biden dumped nearly $500 MILLION into this artillery plant that still hasn't squeezed out a single round after two years

https://tinyurl.com/49exhrc7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (ndZc7)

138 109 Man - they can't do that if they are on prevailing rate jobs and certified payroll has to be reported on that work on a weekly basis.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (2noDb)

139 > "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers

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There is an untapped market for this technology.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 16, 2026 11:46 AM (GTqXr)

140 You are of course correct. But there is also a massive amount of willful ignorance. When E-Verify tells you that "John Smith," a 5'5" mestizo who speaks zero English is a legal worker,, alarm bells should go off.

They don't, because corporate America doesn't want to know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:40 AM (l4RKn)
==
I don't think you get that granular of information. Do the documents match or not? The Hotel Manager of a Hampton Inn who is trying to replace someone in housekeeping who quit a month ago just needs to know if the documents match.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:46 AM (GZYu7)

141 119 ... very good point. I see the freight train twice a day at work and they haven't collected me yet. That's a good sign.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:46 AM (2noDb)

142 I'm not wearing any pants because it's already 81F here. It's going to be another scorcher.

On the bright side, wildfire season hasn't hit here yet so you can still actually see the mountains and you don't wake up gagging.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (sYM3s)

143 113 I agree - start with the big guys Whats the problem with e verify- too many fraudulent IDs?
Posted by: LASue

I dealt with I-9 forms back after the immigration reform bill was passed. You have a Chinese menu of acceptable identification which requires more if the identification offered is of low grade. Top were things like passports, green cards, etc. Lower were other documents.

Here is the current I-9 requirements
https://tinyurl.com/I-9-USCIS

E-Verify is on top of all of these requirements. But employers can be sued if they do not accept the offered documents in good faith for discrimination. But not if the documents are proven false. Basic Congressional bullshit legislation.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv)

144 However, agricultural universities are currently developing and patenting "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers and built-in sensors to pluck fresh berries with the same gentle touch as a human hand
Posted by: Archimedes

Technology soon to be transferred to other lines of products.

(C'mon, you know you were thinking it too!)

Posted by: Tonypete at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (pyNYl)

145 "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers and built-in sensors to pluck fresh berries with the same gentle touch as a human hand..."
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$20. Same as in town.

Posted by: Big Silicone at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (2Ez/1)

146 135 Imagine being Mooch Obama ...
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:37 AM (LuIt4)

ewww
Posted by: m
________

Deep down, (s)he has to know she's a total fraud, no matter how she's tried to justify it to herself on the surface. The conscience is the most dangerous organ to suppress.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (XvL8K)

Looks like she's talked herself into "it's somebody else's fault." Layer upon layer.

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (6wpGE)

147 The only reason the ethic might improve in an office would be that there isn't much work there.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (LuIt4)-
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That would be greeeeat.

Posted by: Bill Lumbergh at July 16, 2026 11:47 AM (amcLV)

148 "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers

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There is an untapped market for this technology.

I'm quite sure that technology has been under development for some time.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t)

149 62 the Gastarbeiter who sustained the German economic miracle.
Posted by: m

And when they become proficient and are no longer a journeyman, they become a Mastarbeiter.

if they do heavy work, they tend to be dieselarbeiters.

Posted by: anachronda at July 16, 2026 11:48 AM (v3pYe)

150 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (afJtY)

That would be a lack of work ethic period, then.

The only reason the ethic might improve in an office would be that there isn't much work there.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (LuIt4)
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Eliminate all the support for not working and the work ethic would improve rather quickly.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:48 AM (GZYu7)

151 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2026 11:43 AM (afJtY)

That would be a lack of work ethic period, then.

The only reason the ethic might improve in an office would be that there isn't much work there.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:44 AM (LuIt4)

Add in to that the multigenerational cultural indoctrination that going to college and getting a degree is the only way to succeed materially in life, combined with pressing wages down through using illegal foreign workers, and you have a self-fulfilling prophecy. Though even the college graduates aren't immune as coding, programming, and even call center/customer support jobs are being driven to the absolute rock bottom through H1Bs and offshoring.

Posted by: Create the disease, sell snake oil cure at July 16, 2026 11:48 AM (TbWk/)

152 I do I-9's at my small construction company, but everyone knows everyone and we won't even think of hiring someone who doesn't have papers. We do too much State and Fed work to take that chance.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 16, 2026 11:49 AM (2noDb)

153 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had

There's a lot to be said about cause and effect there, but I have a feeling it's a pretty tangled thing. Generations of disrespect for blue collar work, misplaced incentives, wage suppression, general negative attitudes in certain groups...none of this will sort itself out quickly, I'm afraid, though sorted it must be.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 11:49 AM (OUMaO)

154 "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers

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There is an untapped market for this technology.

I'm quite sure that technology has been under development for some time.

However, it will not do much to enhance the GDP. It'll detract from it, more than likely, as workers are "distracted".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

155
MUNKEY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2026 11:49 AM (iqcvy)

156 140 You are of course correct. But there is also a massive amount of willful ignorance. When E-Verify tells you that "John Smith," a 5'5" mestizo who speaks zero English is a legal worker,, alarm bells should go off.

They don't, because corporate America doesn't want to know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2026 11:40 AM (l4RKn)

Reliant Energy has the natural gas service in our county, they are a very large corp based out of Houston. Recently I was on a residential property where they had a crew replacing a gas line, about 7 guys all in Reliant coveralls. I was trying to ask them something, and it only took a second to find out that not a single one spoke English. They motioned to the supervisor, who was able to stammer through a bit of Spanglish to tell me that he really didn't know nothing.

Not much of a guess to say that all of their field crews are illegals now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 16, 2026 11:50 AM (edUvp)

157 Big Silicone

Now with AI, soft robotic grippers with the same gentle touch as a human hand, and no back talk.

We could use this on the underclass like sterile screwworm flies are used to protect agriculture.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 11:50 AM (u82oZ)

158 Deep down, (s)he has to know she's a total fraud, no matter how she's tried to justify it to herself on the surface. The conscience is the most dangerous organ to suppress.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 11:45 AM (XvL8K)

Actually narcissists are aware of precious little regarding their favored subject - themselves. Moreover I sincerely doubt that cold bitch has any notable conscience.

What warmth or caring have we ever seen from her? Telling people you care is not the same as caring. Anyone can make a fawning simping face and hold up a sign.

She would have made a great homeless person. And note the sign she held up did not contain the words "Will Work".

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:50 AM (LuIt4)

159 Soft robotic grippers would be a good name for a rock group

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 11:51 AM (YVMaE)

160 "soft robotic grippers" that use silicone fingers

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There is an untapped market for this technology.

I'm quite sure that technology has been under development for some time.

Chicken pluckers. Seriously.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:51 AM (u3HiE)

161 Now with AI, soft robotic grippers with the same gentle touch as a human hand, and no back talk.
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Remember what happened to that metal chalice in Army of Darkness? No thanks.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:51 AM (LuIt4)

162 Bill Kristol — Soft robotic grifter

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 11:52 AM (YVMaE)

163 160 Soft robotic grippers would be a good name for a rock group
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 11:51 AM (YVMaE)

Grip it! Grip it in the bud!

--Barney Fife

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:52 AM (6wpGE)

164 153 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had

There's a lot to be said about cause and effect there, but I have a feeling it's a pretty tangled thing. Generations of disrespect for blue collar work, misplaced incentives, wage suppression, general negative attitudes in certain groups...none of this will sort itself out quickly, I'm afraid, though sorted it must be.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 11:49 AM (OUMaO)

All of this.

Posted by: Well said at July 16, 2026 11:52 AM (TbWk/)

165 I'm always astonished at the QC lines for many agricultural products. The products whiz by on a belt moving faster than you can follow with your eye, and yet lasers and other sensors detect bad produce (for example) and blow it off the belt with air.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

166 Reliant Energy has the natural gas service in our county, they are a very large corp based out of Houston. Recently I was on a residential property where they had a crew replacing a gas line, about 7 guys all in Reliant coveralls. I was trying to ask them something, and it only took a second to find out that not a single one spoke English. They motioned to the supervisor, who was able to stammer through a bit of Spanglish to tell me that he really didn't know nothing.

Not much of a guess to say that all of their field crews are illegals now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 16, 2026 11:50 AM (edUvp)
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I have run into that as well. They are a subcontractor of course. Part of this problem will resolve itself as more illegals are deported or leave voluntarily.

There will be wage gains at the lower end, which will fuel price hikes. I do believe illegals should not be working here. Just remember that when wages rise, which they will, you and I will pay for that, which I also have no problem with. A person deserves to get paid. But it will drive inflation stats.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 11:53 AM (GZYu7)

167 Ya know how you never know what's going to start the Horde on a digression? Yeah.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:54 AM (Riz8t)

168 Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.
Posted by: Ben Had

Hard, shitty jobs are less preferable to employees than softer jobs. What too much of employers believe is that you don't have to offer higher wages for these hard and shitty jobs. And that becomes a self licking ice cream cone with illegals. And illegal's wages are actually higher because they get government benefits often to make up the breach like food stamps, free education, housing benefits, etc. and often the illegals don't pay taxes on cash income.

In a closed economy where you cannot go and get cheaper labor, business pay rates have to adjust to either pay more, have the owners do the hard shitty jobs themselves, or do without.

Sometimes the tasks can be arranged differently to allow for mechanical substitutes but that often requires owners to pony up the cash for conversion to using mechanical auxiliaries than Juan the illegal.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:54 AM (E4rtv)

169 Now with AI, soft robotic grippers with the same gentle touch as a human hand, and no back talk.
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Remember what happened to that metal chalice in Army of Darkness? No thanks.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:51 AM (LuIt4)

Groovy.

Posted by: Klaatu! Barada! Ni*coughcough* at July 16, 2026 11:54 AM (TbWk/)

170 Ya know how you never know what's going to start the Horde on a digression? Yeah.
Posted by: Archimedes

Bewbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:55 AM (u3HiE)

171 159 Soft robotic grippers would be a good name for a rock group

soft robotic gripers would be a punk group

Posted by: anachronda at July 16, 2026 11:55 AM (v3pYe)

172 CONSTRUCTION
1. D. R. Horton

Based in TX and one of the many reasons we got stuck with Cornyn for all these years by lining his pockets. Seeing Paxton trounce him was a beautiful thing.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 16, 2026 11:55 AM (SjAWL)

173 Bewbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 16, 2026 11:55 AM (u3HiE)

Aka soft robotic grippers

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 11:56 AM (LuIt4)

174 167 Ya know how you never know what's going to start the Horde on a digression? Yeah.

Although I suppose in hindsight "soft robotic grippers that use silicone fingers" should have been fairly obvious.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

175 174 167 Ya know how you never know what's going to start the Horde on a digression? Yeah.

Although I suppose in hindsight "soft robotic grippers that use silicone fingers" should have been fairly obvious.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

I suppose!

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (6wpGE)

176 > Another huge problem is the lack of a work ethic in a segment of US citizens when it comes to blue collar jobs.

Posted by: Ben Had
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Imagine the number of "kids" who've quit working fast food because "it's too stressing" for them. Or any other job that requires showing up on time, working a prescribed number of hours and doing what you're told.

Some kids can't fathom doing that. Or want to.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (jehhT)

177 There will be wage gains at the lower end, which will fuel price hikes. I do believe illegals should not be working here. Just remember that when wages rise, which they will, you and I will pay for that, which I also have no problem with. A person deserves to get paid. But it will drive inflation stats.
Posted by: Black JEM
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Doubtful because many of those illegals are also receiving government benefits for themselves and family which cause inflation to a greater extent than labor costs particularly in housing and food.

Businesses got in the habit of privatizing the cheap labor gains and socializing all the costs for such labor such as crime, welfare, education, inflation of key core goods, and increased government debt. Plus putting Democrats in office to make all of these things worse.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)

178 >>>Generations of disrespect for blue collar work, misplaced incentives, wage suppression, general negative attitudes in certain groups...none of this will sort itself out quickly, I'm afraid, though sorted it must be.

>How about quality of work life? Sure, you may have a valuable skill, but when they expect you to work 10-12 hours a day for 6 days or more, you gotta draw a line. You see your salaried supervisor more than you wife and family. If you don't comply, they replace you with two illegals.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (sYM3s)

179
Soft Robotic Grippers is a technology we'd have a hard time controlling.

Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (Y8DZL)

180 Ya know how you never know what's going to start the Horde on a digression? Yeah.
Posted by: Archimedes

The main topic of a thread is usually a digression from the continual boob thread.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (77rzZ)

181 Archimedes

Tailor made verbiage for our deplorable nature.

But seriously, we need a start-up for human use.
First, market this in Islamic countries as a first or second wife.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 11:58 AM (u82oZ)

182 >Although I suppose in hindsight "soft robotic grippers that use silicone fingers" should have been fairly obvious.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

Like a moth to a flame.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 16, 2026 11:58 AM (GTqXr)

183 This is the quote I think of in respect to Michelle Obama. I saw the quote at the Amish market today. The same can be said of Barack Obama:

There are two types of people-those who come into a room and say, "Well, here I am!" and those who come in and say, "Ah, there you are.

Frederick L. Collins

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 11:59 AM (D+BhG)

184 *waves to Salty*

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 16, 2026 11:59 AM (/0H7F)

185 172 CONSTRUCTION
1. D. R. Horton

Based in TX and one of the many reasons we got stuck with Cornyn for all these years by lining his pockets. Seeing Paxton trounce him was a beautiful thing.
Posted by: TxAnn
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I've seen their work and their workers up close--truly shitty building techniques and homes. See DR Horton as the seller or original builder and run from these 'homes'. Disposable crap that will require major expenditures to keep them livable in the near future and abysmal quality control just enough to get by paid off or stupid code inspectors.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (E4rtv)

186 Based in TX and one of the many reasons we got stuck with Cornyn for all these years by lining his pockets. Seeing Paxton trounce him was a beautiful thing.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 16, 2026 11:55 AM (SjAWL)

It really can't be said enough.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (2YhKe)

187 CONSTRUCTION
1. D. R. Horton

Based in TX and one of the many reasons we got stuck with Cornyn for all these years by lining his pockets. Seeing Paxton trounce him was a beautiful thing.

Posted by: TxAnn

Also one of the most notoriously shitty home builders in America. I can't imagine that's a coincidence at all.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (OUMaO)

188 Soft Robotic Grippers is a technology we'd have a hard time controlling.
Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (Y8DZL)

*rummages through junk drawer*
There's a Howard Walowitz joke in here somewhere.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (PSEDc)

189 Lol
Not so many Americans want to work in chicken slaughter houses.
You want cheap chicken you gotta bite cheap labor.

NYC labor unions require social security security numbers.
Trump always/usually preferred non union

EalMart is reducing prices. Why ? Well it is not because people have extra money to spend

Posted by: Paul at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (Ohwtv)

190 Forget six degrees of separation. Every thread is one (short) step away from bewbs

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (YVMaE)

191 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 11:59 AM (D+BhG)

One could argue Jesus embodied both.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 12:01 PM (LuIt4)

192 I saw Soft Robotic Grippers open for Men Without Hats in Wallyworld last Tuesday.

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 12:01 PM (6wpGE)

193 I've seen their work and their workers up close--truly shitty building techniques and homes. See DR Horton as the seller or original builder and run from these 'homes'. Disposable crap that will require major expenditures to keep them livable in the near future and abysmal quality control just enough to get by paid off or stupid code inspectors.

Posted by: whig

There's a whole genre on YouTube of home inspection videos. High end "new construction" that looks like it would have trouble passing muster in China. Why houses aren't falling over in stiff breezes lately I'm not entirely certain.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 12:01 PM (OUMaO)

194 >How about quality of work life? Sure, you may have a valuable skill, but when they expect you to work 10-12 hours a day for 6 days or more, you gotta draw a line. You see your salaried supervisor more than you wife and family. If you don't comply, they replace you with two illegals.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Yep. Saw the same thing in the US Depression--including making workers keep working even though the workplaces weren't safe--and killing a lot of them. Labor unions, safety rules, etc. came about for a reason and that is because some people running businesses get too damn greedy or they never should have been running a business in the first place.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:02 PM (E4rtv)

195 Ben Had

One of the stories I heard yesterday was about her daughter being asked to cover a task from an entitled individual that was on her phone all day, rather than working. The daughter said it was "your job. You do it."

- "Like I'm a slave?" *with attitude*

The daughter replies. "No. Slaves worked. "

Big HR dust up. Video upheld her daughter. The other worker was given a written warning.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:02 PM (u82oZ)

196 Another very pleasant thing at the Amish market today was a teen girl wearing a tee shirt saying "Jesus loves you!" I commended her for her shirt. She also said " Thanks and you have a blessed day " when she handed me what I had purchased .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 12:03 PM (D+BhG)

197
Imagine the number of "kids" who've quit working fast food because "it's too stressing" for them. Or any other job that requires showing up on time, working a prescribed number of hours and doing what you're told.

Some kids can't fathom doing that. Or want to.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (jehhT)

So you've met my younger nephew...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2026 12:03 PM (iqcvy)

198 Remember that scene in planes trains and automobiles where John Candy tells Steve Martin he plays with his balls a lot? Martin replies: you know what I’d like? Candy: another ball and an extra set of fingers? 😂 he was talking about silicone fingers for soft gripping!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 16, 2026 12:04 PM (YVMaE)

199 And perhaps rewards for whistleblowers who rat out their CEOs!

Make the reward based on how many violations are found. And I'd also recommend anonymity and relocation as needed.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 16, 2026 12:04 PM (+4yJ5)

200 "And yes, the pathetic government systems that give these companies an out by being able to say, "Well, we checked through E-Verify," need to be improved. They are not the only ones who are complicit...our government is its own worst enemy."

This is the 800 pound fat smelly mutant trigglypuff in the room. The everify and other "safeguards" are a total joke and really just a means for companies to cover their asses while employing hordes of illegals.

The biggest companies know exactly how to game the system, and have the money and power to make sure the system stays gamed.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 16, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

201 Posted by: ... at July 16, 2026 12:01 PM (LuIt4

He did, but he was Jesus. Neither Michelle nor Barack are.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 12:04 PM (D+BhG)

202 There's a whole genre on YouTube of home inspection videos. High end "new construction" that looks like it would have trouble passing muster in China. Why houses aren't falling over in stiff breezes lately I'm not entirely certain.
Posted by: Brother Tim
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A lot of redundancy as far as falling down but mold issues, roofing issues, plumbing issues, electrical issues, square walls issues, air leak issues, cheap builder grade components made from Chinesium like faucets, monkeys with nailguns spraying nails around, etc. etc. Many people would be better off in a manufactured home but codes in many places forbid them.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:04 PM (E4rtv)

203 {{{SMH at God's mercy}}}

My latest story was in the Pixy thread.

Glad you two love birds are in Missouri.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

204
We could use this on the underclass like sterile screwworm flies are used to protect agriculture.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 11:50 AM (u82oZ)

Hey, Pal. Go work your own side of the street. This spot's taken.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at July 16, 2026 12:06 PM (w/O5Q)

205
EalMart is reducing prices. Why ?

Eels seems to be a niche product, it doesn't surprise me that they're reducing prices to try moving inventory.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2026 12:06 PM (iqcvy)

206 See DR Horton as the seller or original builder and run from these 'homes'. Disposable crap that will require major expenditures to keep them livable in the near future and abysmal quality control just enough to get by paid off or stupid code inspectors.

--

There are a few websites dedicated to consumer complaints on companies like DR Horton. Most of the stories posted by people who buy these garbage homes are horrifying. I've seen entire neighborhoods like DR Horton build multiple homes from dirt to move-in taking less than 3 months. Walk into some of these developments. You won't believe your eyes at the shoddy workmanship.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2026 12:06 PM (qBdHI)

207 m

Congratulations on a COTW worthy rock concert note.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:06 PM (u82oZ)

208 It really can't be said enough.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 16, 2026 12:00 PM (2YhKe)

I don’t smoke but I wanted to light up a cigarette when the race was called.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 16, 2026 12:07 PM (SjAWL)

209 Hey, Salty, how'd your outing with the chatty widow go?

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 12:07 PM (77rzZ)

210 EalMart is reducing prices. Why ?

Eels seems to be a niche product, it doesn't surprise me that they're reducing prices to try moving inventory.

Word. Have you ever had to move an entire hovercraft's worth of eels?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 16, 2026 12:07 PM (Riz8t)

211 DHS has only so many men in service. I prefer them going after criminals first. Homan said that strays caught along the way were also going.

As for as the employers listed and the innumerable employees; there would be an extreme disruption in production if they were all yanked at once. They way our society has been corrupted we don't have that many young adults capable of immediately filling those jobs. Attrit, send them back and replace with a ready American worker.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:08 PM (JS6jE)

212 Bulg

Most of the story is on the Pixy thread. And in comment 95.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:09 PM (u82oZ)

213 Bulg

195.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:10 PM (u82oZ)

214 I'm surprised no one has renamed one of the periodic table elements "Chinesium" ... yet.

Posted by: ShainS -- Tricentennial or Bust! at July 16, 2026 12:10 PM (rMjUw)

215 Screaming Eels are the worst, Vizzini says so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (wLnmp)

216 - "Like I'm a slave?" *with attitude*

The daughter replies. "No. Slaves worked. "

That's hilarious. Good for her.

Posted by: Bulg at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (77rzZ)

217 A lot of redundancy as far as falling down but mold issues, roofing issues, plumbing issues, electrical issues, square walls issues, air leak issues, cheap builder grade components made from Chinesium like faucets, monkeys with nailguns spraying nails around, etc. etc. Many people would be better off in a manufactured home but codes in many places forbid them.

Posted by: whig

Whole thing enrages me. We have a serious housing shortage in this country...but rather than starter homes, we build high end stuff...that's absolute garbage-tier quality! We are so far past fucked the light from fucked won't arrive anytime this century, it feels like.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (OUMaO)

218 There are a few websites dedicated to consumer complaints on companies like DR Horton. Most of the stories posted by people who buy these garbage homes are horrifying. I've seen entire neighborhoods like DR Horton build multiple homes from dirt to move-in taking less than 3 months. Walk into some of these developments. You won't believe your eyes at the shoddy workmanship.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Yep. I've seen them put up a whole house within a couple of days--and neglect house wrap, proper framing techniques, ignore adequate roofing techniques like saddles around fireplaces, to prevent future leaks, letting wood and other materials in place get rained on, and so forth. Houses that will require major repair work within a thirty year mortgage period.

But too many buyers have the idea that they will buy this house and then hide its defects and pass it on to another poor sod in a few years while the buyer moves into a series of nicer and nicer homes.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (E4rtv)

219 there would be an extreme disruption in production if they were all weaned on cock.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (DlF8b)

220 Much new construction is for investment banks, who want cheap and fast. They rent the houses and renters do not care about long term build quality.

And so you see houses made of cardboard and styrofoam by 10 year old Guatamalians.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (wBaIH)

221 Hey, Salty, how'd your outing with the chatty widow go?

--

I think he was glad to get back home to the peace and quiet.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2026 12:11 PM (qBdHI)

222 Whole thing enrages me. We have a serious housing shortage in this country...but rather than starter homes, we build high end stuff...that's absolute garbage-tier quality! We are so far past fucked the light from fucked won't arrive anytime this century, it feels like.
Posted by: Brother Tim
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True enough and very typical of the insta suburban subdivisions that spring up around metropolises.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:12 PM (E4rtv)

223 Do the english types still have eel and pie shops?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 12:12 PM (XvL8K)

224 ShainS -- Tricentennial or Bust!

It is very difficult to make a new transuranium element. Stability of an newly made atom is measured in milliseconds or nanoseconds.

All the easy ones are already named. Plus only Russia and America have labs for that, IIANM.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:13 PM (u82oZ)

225 115 If you don't fix e-verify, there is no way these companies will ever be able to comply. If the documents match at time of hire, at the levels they are hiring all over the country, especially in food and hospitality, where the hiring is done locally, they are going to hire them.

We can get all high and mighty about it. But they cannot police it themselves if the e-verify system tells them different.
Posted by: Black JEM
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Right. Too often government shuffles off enforcement to the employer. The employer is not cop or an IRS enforcer pushing enforcement off on the employer in the name of compliance is not the way.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:13 PM (JS6jE)

226 Do the english types still have eel and pie shops?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 12:12 PM (XvL8K)
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Just go easy on the lampreys.

Posted by: Henry I at July 16, 2026 12:14 PM (amcLV)

227 Let's start with the biggest fight and the harshest measures when we barely have a majority let alone a functional one.

Or we could let PDT keep doing what we voted for.

Posted by: DaveA at July 16, 2026 12:14 PM (FhXTo)

228 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 16, 2026 12:15 PM (NcvvS)

229 220 Much new construction is for investment banks, who want cheap and fast. They rent the houses and renters do not care about long term build quality.

And so you see houses made of cardboard and styrofoam by 10 year old Guatamalians.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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Very true in a lot of big cities with hot employment markets. But the joke is on them and their investors, these houses combined with renters who typically do no maintenance themselves will not be livable by then. And those corporate debts will still be owed. That is one of the untold stories where corporations were desperate to keep the migration flows coming--it made their ponzi like schemes work out financially. But if the tide rolls out, you will start seeing some pretty ugly things as we are now.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 12:15 PM (E4rtv)

230 Thanks and you have a blessed day " when she handed me what I had purchased .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2026 12:03 PM (D+BhG)
Yesterday in doctors waiting room , I saw a tee shirt on a nice lady that said Me and GOD vs anybody that want to lose

Posted by: MAC V SOG at July 16, 2026 12:16 PM (P4Pk9)

231 Fen in the South "have a blessed day" is more common than "have a nice day" or "enjoy your weekend."

Fricking Christian Nationalists.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 16, 2026 12:17 PM (wBaIH)

232 After Glenn Reynold's post this morning, I have a feeling that the citizens of the USA are about to get a lesson in the application of the Guarantee Clause in the US Constitution tonight.

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2026 12:17 PM (rj6Yv)

233 222 Whole thing enrages me. We have a serious housing shortage in this country...but rather than starter homes, we build high end stuff...that's absolute garbage-tier quality! We are so far past fucked the light from fucked won't arrive anytime this century, it feels like.
Posted by: Brother Tim
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Sounds as if you are more displeased with the quality of large homes than the lack of small well made homes. The buying public does not want 1K to 1.5K sq ft houses (where's my man cave?). And builders build what the public wants to buy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:18 PM (JS6jE)

234 Do the english types still have eel and pie shops?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2026 12:12 PM (XvL8K)

No...they have Islamic Rape and Vape Shops.

Posted by: Mohammed El Mohammed at July 16, 2026 12:18 PM (F1rMs)

235 Doubtful because many of those illegals are also receiving government benefits for themselves and family which cause inflation to a greater extent than labor costs particularly in housing and food.

Businesses got in the habit of privatizing the cheap labor gains and socializing all the costs for such labor such as crime, welfare, education, inflation of key core goods, and increased government debt. Plus putting Democrats in office to make all of these things worse.

Posted by: whig at July 16, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)
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Sorry Whig, as much as I respect your opinion on all things, you are incorrect here. We are shrinking the workforce, wages will rise and wages are a huge factor in cost for many of these industries, which will then fan out into the general wages within that geographic location to all employers. Every legitimate economist and demographic forecaster realizes this is true. WE will probably see some improvement in housing (rents) due to reduced demand. But reduced demand in food will be offset by smaller lot runs and smaller purchases by large stores thus increasing per unit costs. Volume discounts will shrink. Labor wage increases will stick, unless a recession hits.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 12:19 PM (GZYu7)

236 >>>Whole thing enrages me. We have a serious housing shortage in this country...but rather than starter homes, we build high end stuff...that's absolute garbage-tier quality! We are so far past fucked the light from fucked won't arrive anytime this century, it feels like.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum

>Don't forget there and corporations buying up entire blocks of homes, real estate, and marketing them as airbnbs. They make it hard for families because they're priced out of the market for a home.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 16, 2026 12:19 PM (sYM3s)

237 I've never tried it, but jellied eel doesn't sound appealing to me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 16, 2026 12:20 PM (XeU6L)

238 Sounds as if you are more displeased with the quality of large homes than the lack of small well made homes. The buying public does not want 1K to 1.5K sq ft houses (where's my man cave?). And builders build what the public wants to buy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:18 PM (JS6jE)
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True - I read somewhere that the average size of a starter home has increased dramatically over the last 30 or 40 years. And kids starting out have come to expect the home comforts their parents had when they left the nest, not the nest they first came home to.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2026 12:21 PM (GZYu7)

239 13 3 Reagan's two biggest mistakes:

1. Choosing Bush Sr. as his VP;
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Posted by: Bulg
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#1 - The GOPe made it loud and clear that Reagan would not get their support without putting their agent in as VP.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:23 PM (JS6jE)

240 I like the list of employers. The Hormel company ( meat packers) would expose the owner of that company. Elise Slotkin, who is running to be a senator in Michigan!

Posted by: . Chillin the most at July 16, 2026 12:26 PM (G0JG0)

241 ======
Very true in a lot of big cities with hot employment markets. But the joke is on them and their investors, these houses combined with renters who typically do no maintenance themselves will not be livable by then. And those corporate debts will still be owed. That is one of the untold stories where corporations were desperate to keep the migration flows coming--it made their ponzi like schemes work out financially. But if the tide rolls out, you will start seeing some pretty ugly things as we are now.

Posted by: whig
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You are neglecting the input of a spoiled native American (white and black boys) workforce- not the one's working but the one's coming into the workforce with unrealistic expectations and unrealistic appraisal of their value.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 16, 2026 12:31 PM (JS6jE)

242 It's a small bust, but they did arrest the plant manager, amongst others.

https://tinyurl.com/ye279bea

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2026 12:44 PM (iMotb)

243 207 m

Congratulations on a COTW worthy rock concert note.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 16, 2026 12:06 PM (u82oZ)

ooh, I missed that!

Posted by: m at July 16, 2026 12:49 PM (6wpGE)

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