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Trump Orders the Postal Service to Not Deliver Mail-In Ballots to States That Refuse to Turn Over Their Voter Lists
States' rights! States' rights! States' rights!Crack down on illegal mail-in voting. CNN is garbage and I can't wait until they're all fired.
Postal Service won't deliver mail ballots for states that don't hand over voter lists, under plan for Trump directive
State election officials could soon face a stark choice: Hand over voter lists to the Trump administration or risk losing Postal Service delivery for mail-in ballots. That dilemma stems from newly proposed USPS rules that seek to comply with an executive order President Donald Trump signed this spring to crack down on mail-in voting.
If courts let the order stand, it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections -- and could put even more voter data in the hands of Trump officials searching for supposed election fraud.1, it's not supposed, and 2, this reveals that you did know the measure is intended to crack down on illegal mail-in voting, but chose to conceal that from readers out of a motive to propagandize for the Democrat Party and their legions of fake voters.
The proposed rules lay out new conditions that states would have to meet to send ballots through the mail, including giving the agency lists of all voters set to receive mail ballots. So far, 23 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia are suing, as are Democratic Party leaders and non-partisan voter advocacy groups, setting up a potentially active summer of high-stakes judicial rulings. The Trump administration cleared an initial legal hurdle last month, when a federal judge in Washington, DC, who is overseeing one set of the cases, declined to block Trump's executive order, allowing the Postal Service to begin implementing it. The Democratic Party groups are asking an appeals court to speed up its review of that decision, warning that voters around the country could be disenfranchised in this year's midterm elections if the proposal is not blocked. In an interview with CNN, Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a Democrat whose state is part of the coalition that filed a legal challenge in Boston, said that if courts rule for the Trump administration, "Then you will see a virtual elimination of mail-in voting, unless the states supply voter lists to the federal government."Yes, "unless" states obey federal directives in an area the federal government does indeed have supremacy over state law. Look: Just secede already. You're agitating for it and I, for one, would love to be rid of you.
Comments
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Well I'll be.
Posted by: GuardianB at June 10, 2026 02:14 PM (y9pGs)
2
Good for President Trump. I'm sure some black robed tyrant is already in the process of ruling against it, however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2026 02:15 PM (PFs9e)
3
Judge Boasoberg warming up his gavel in his gimp's ass.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2026 02:15 PM (diia5)
4
They can’t secede. Who would pay the taxes so they can be lazy leftists who don’t lift?
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
5
This one's gonna sting (we hope)!
This one's gonna sting (we hope)!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (ixS3i)
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Post offices and post roads are within the purview of the Federal government. Constitution, bitchezzzz!
Post offices and post roads are within the purview of the Federal government. Constitution, bitchezzzz!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2026 02:17 PM (54EQa)
7
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
8
That was a subpar nood call.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (zZu0s)
9
Two things:
CA will just institute online voting.
And, the next Dem regime could use this to require open balloting in all 50 states, or other nasty corporate marxist things.
CA will just institute online voting.
And, the next Dem regime could use this to require open balloting in all 50 states, or other nasty corporate marxist things.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (diia5)
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lum has been NOOD'ed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (ixS3i)
12
Let's just go one step further and shut it all down.
I have no idea the intersection between the Executive Branch and USPS, but if they can make a myriad of laws about what the post office is allowed to deliver, shut down the vote by mail. It's not secure and the post office is not equipped to protect our democracy.
I have no idea the intersection between the Executive Branch and USPS, but if they can make a myriad of laws about what the post office is allowed to deliver, shut down the vote by mail. It's not secure and the post office is not equipped to protect our democracy.
Posted by: Leupold at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (eIzlH)
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> Look: Just secede already.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:13 PM
But just the blue cities.
There's no reason they should be allowed to keep valuable farmland and other natural resources.
Given that the rural areas of even the bluest states tend to be as red as a baboon's butt, you could just make it local option.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:13 PM
But just the blue cities.
There's no reason they should be allowed to keep valuable farmland and other natural resources.
Given that the rural areas of even the bluest states tend to be as red as a baboon's butt, you could just make it local option.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:19 PM (IG3/x)
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They can’t secede. Who would pay the taxes so they can be lazy leftists who don’t lift?
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I DARE. I DOUBLE DOG DARE them to do it. Throw in Oregon and Washington for good measure. Make my electoral and senate fucking century. Not to mention house.
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I DARE. I DOUBLE DOG DARE them to do it. Throw in Oregon and Washington for good measure. Make my electoral and senate fucking century. Not to mention house.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
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How many late night mail in votes Ramen got?
Yeah right there is proof of illegal votes.
Just cut off all Federal money that goes directly to the CA government.
Yeah right there is proof of illegal votes.
Just cut off all Federal money that goes directly to the CA government.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2026 02:20 PM (p6qkl)
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And yet here you are...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (ixS3i)
Of course, I am like a dog after a squirrel.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (ixS3i)
Of course, I am like a dog after a squirrel.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
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it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections
Apparently XiNN thinks the Voting Rights Act is a conspiracy theory.
Apparently XiNN thinks the Voting Rights Act is a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:21 PM (R+iUD)
18
The Democratic Party groups are asking an appeals court to speed up its review of that decision, warning that voters around the country could be disenfranchised in this year's midterm elections if the proposal is not blocked.
The only voters disenfranchised with this are the ones that shouldn't be voting anyway.
GFY.
The only voters disenfranchised with this are the ones that shouldn't be voting anyway.
GFY.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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I think the USPS is one of those "quasi-independent agencies" nowadays, so perhaps it will turn on the Supreme Court decision that is apparently upcoming in regard to the Federal Reserve (another "quasi-independent agency").
Ever notice that "non-partisan" and "quasi-independent" outfits always seem to be somewhere on to the left of Leon Trotsky?
Weird, huh?
Ever notice that "non-partisan" and "quasi-independent" outfits always seem to be somewhere on to the left of Leon Trotsky?
Weird, huh?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:21 PM (IG3/x)
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The USPS is a section of the Executive Branch. The Postmaster General at one time was a member of the President's Cabinet.
And yet, to my knowledge, no one who ever served as Postmaster General looked up from that primordial ooze and thought, "Why, I could be the guy Preznintin'!"
The USPS is a section of the Executive Branch. The Postmaster General at one time was a member of the President's Cabinet.
And yet, to my knowledge, no one who ever served as Postmaster General looked up from that primordial ooze and thought, "Why, I could be the guy Preznintin'!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:21 PM (ixS3i)
21
Of course, I am like a dog after a squirrel.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
We're all corgis, I've been told.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
We're all corgis, I've been told.
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:22 PM (77rzZ)
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"Just secede already. You're agitating for it and I, for one, would love to be rid of you."
Why should they secede? They have their cake and can eat it too. If red states are so desperate to be rid of blue states, then it is the red states who must do the seceding.
Why should they secede? They have their cake and can eat it too. If red states are so desperate to be rid of blue states, then it is the red states who must do the seceding.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: GuardianB at June 10, 2026 02:22 PM (y9pGs)
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CNN is garbage and I can't wait until they're all fired.
As journalists, this is not who we are, Mr. O'Spades.
#BeBetter
As journalists, this is not who we are, Mr. O'Spades.
#BeBetter
Posted by: Brian "Sex Machine" Stelter at June 10, 2026 02:23 PM (0sNs1)
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Wait a minute a Mr Postman
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:23 PM (6V12Q)
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>>> 14 They can’t secede. Who would pay the taxes so they can be lazy leftists who don’t lift?
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I DARE. I DOUBLE DOG DARE them to do it. Throw in Oregon and Washington for good measure. Make my electoral and senate fucking century. Not to mention house.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
Well I TRIPLE DOG DARE them!
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I DARE. I DOUBLE DOG DARE them to do it. Throw in Oregon and Washington for good measure. Make my electoral and senate fucking century. Not to mention house.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
Well I TRIPLE DOG DARE them!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (R+iUD)
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Ballot harvester rings twice.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (p6qkl)
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What proportion of land in Oregon, Washington and California is red? Think they want to be slaves of the urban zones?
What proportion of land in Oregon, Washington and California is red? Think they want to be slaves of the urban zones?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (54EQa)
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That was a subpar nood call.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (zZu0s)
I never saw it, but made up for any lack shortly thereafter.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (zZu0s)
I never saw it, but made up for any lack shortly thereafter.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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Brian "Sex Machine" Stelter
Be careful!
He could be "up in your bae" just like that!
* snaps fingers *
Brian "Sex Machine" Stelter
Be careful!
He could be "up in your bae" just like that!
* snaps fingers *
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (ixS3i)
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I guess there's two possible avenues here;
- Nationalize all elections
- Nationalize only the Presidential election
Third possibility would be to come down hard on the states, like California that are fucking around. Nullify fraudulent elections, which should be done anyway.
States like CA, NY, CO, VA, etc. see no recriminations for the fraud and will likely implement similar schemes for national elections. States nibbling around the edges of fraud will see no reason not to go all in and adopt the California method.
- Nationalize all elections
- Nationalize only the Presidential election
Third possibility would be to come down hard on the states, like California that are fucking around. Nullify fraudulent elections, which should be done anyway.
States like CA, NY, CO, VA, etc. see no recriminations for the fraud and will likely implement similar schemes for national elections. States nibbling around the edges of fraud will see no reason not to go all in and adopt the California method.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (jehhT)
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So far, 23 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia are suing, as are Democratic Party leaders and non-partisan voter advocacy groups, setting up a potentially active summer of high-stakes judicial rulings.
I call bullshit on the so-called "non-partisan"...ACLU is supposedly non-partisan. The California Bar Association is supposedly non-partisan...I bet EVERY F'N ONE OF THE SO-CALLED NON-PARTISON VOTER ADVOCACY GROUPS are partisan as hell, and they go dem/socialist/commie.
I call bullshit on the so-called "non-partisan"...ACLU is supposedly non-partisan. The California Bar Association is supposedly non-partisan...I bet EVERY F'N ONE OF THE SO-CALLED NON-PARTISON VOTER ADVOCACY GROUPS are partisan as hell, and they go dem/socialist/commie.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (l3cgK)
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge Number Five at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (lh7pS)
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Wait a minute a Mr Postman
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:23 PM (6V12Q)
And you just started that chorus in my head.
Wait Mr post-man
Look and see
Oh yeah
Is there a letter in your bag for me
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:23 PM (6V12Q)
And you just started that chorus in my head.
Wait Mr post-man
Look and see
Oh yeah
Is there a letter in your bag for me
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (zZu0s)
35
cut cali in half, let the dem controlled part secede, let the repub part elect spenser pratt to replace adam schifft
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (CWTWj)
36
The Postman Always Votes Twice. Coming this fall...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (bFu5X)
37
This is what I voted for.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (VkY89)
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (j+aD2)
39
Oh yeah
Is there a letter in your bag for me
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (zZu0s)
"If you ever deliver a letter from that kid's school, to that house again......."
Is there a letter in your bag for me
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:24 PM (zZu0s)
"If you ever deliver a letter from that kid's school, to that house again......."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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non-partisan means they can support any kind of democrat
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (CWTWj)
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> The USPS is a section of the Executive Branch.
Used to be.
Now it's run by a "Board of Governors", like the Federal Reserve.
Both operations are blatantly unconstitutional, but no one gives a shit about that nowadays.
Used to be.
Now it's run by a "Board of Governors", like the Federal Reserve.
Both operations are blatantly unconstitutional, but no one gives a shit about that nowadays.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (IG3/x)
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There are several states that ought to be demoted back to territories.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (R+iUD)
43
I can't wait until they bring out the legions of "disenfranchised" voters that are verifiably disenfranchised.
What? You're saying they are all leprechauns and unicorns?
What? You're saying they are all leprechauns and unicorns?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (gnNyN)
44
And yet, to my knowledge, no one who ever served as Postmaster General looked up from that primordial ooze and thought, "Why, I could be the guy Preznintin'!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison!
___________
*polite cough*
Jim Farley was on the ballot at the 1940 Democratic convention.
And yet, to my knowledge, no one who ever served as Postmaster General looked up from that primordial ooze and thought, "Why, I could be the guy Preznintin'!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison!
___________
*polite cough*
Jim Farley was on the ballot at the 1940 Democratic convention.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (54EQa)
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Hawaiian judge says postman must deliver, and he must do it naked.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (6V12Q)
46
38 please close the USPS
SHUT IT DOWN!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (j+aD2)
I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
SHUT IT DOWN!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (j+aD2)
I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (l3cgK)
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Assuming some woke judge doesn't throw a stick
in the spokes, the states will deal with this with their own parallel delivery system, with fraud intact.
Assuming some woke judge doesn't throw a stick
in the spokes, the states will deal with this with their own parallel delivery system, with fraud intact.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (azNOR)
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Voting is a right but like owning a firearm, there need to be protections in place so it is valid and the results accurate.
Make voting as difficult as buying a firearm and watch the Dems get 4 seats in Congress.
After all, it’s for the children.
Make voting as difficult as buying a firearm and watch the Dems get 4 seats in Congress.
After all, it’s for the children.
Posted by: Czech Chick at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (pPuOh)
49
There is no reasonable logic leftists can stand on in this battle. That of course won't stop them from throwing out all kinds of illogical reasons.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (n5tGW)
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42 There are several states that ought to be demoted back to territories.
oh I have a LIST:
- Cali, duh
- Washington
- Oregon
- New Mexico
- Hawaii
- Alaska
- Delaware (just make it part of NJ or something)
- Maine
oh I have a LIST:
- Cali, duh
- Washington
- Oregon
- New Mexico
- Hawaii
- Alaska
- Delaware (just make it part of NJ or something)
- Maine
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (j+aD2)
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I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM
It says post offices and post roads. Doesn't say shit about delivery. /s
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM
It says post offices and post roads. Doesn't say shit about delivery. /s
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (bFu5X)
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>>> 43 I can't wait until they bring out the legions of "disenfranchised" voters that are verifiably disenfranchised.
What? You're saying they are all leprechauns and unicorns?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (gnNyN)
FLORIDA SHERRIFFS SENT ATTACK DOGS AFTER UNARMED MAIL-IN BALLOTTS ON DEATHSANTIS' ORDERS!!!!!
What? You're saying they are all leprechauns and unicorns?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (gnNyN)
FLORIDA SHERRIFFS SENT ATTACK DOGS AFTER UNARMED MAIL-IN BALLOTTS ON DEATHSANTIS' ORDERS!!!!!
Posted by: leftists at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (R+iUD)
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I bet Trump in 2020 wishes he had taken a harder line on the Post Office and mail in voting. It's clearly where teh fraud mostly happened.
I get that there' going to be political blowback as people tend to prefer vote by mail (because we're lazy) but its worth going to the mat against mail in voting.
No other country really does it, even Europe discovered its just too open to fraud.
I get that there' going to be political blowback as people tend to prefer vote by mail (because we're lazy) but its worth going to the mat against mail in voting.
No other country really does it, even Europe discovered its just too open to fraud.
Posted by: Leupold at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (eIzlH)
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (j+aD2)
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> I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (l3cgK)
It is. So is the part that gives Congress the "right to coin money and regulate the value thereof".
But that didn't stop the USPS and the Federal Reserv being spun off as "independent agencies" with no direct congressional or executive oversight.
As I said, no one gives a shit about the Constitution nowadays.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (l3cgK)
It is. So is the part that gives Congress the "right to coin money and regulate the value thereof".
But that didn't stop the USPS and the Federal Reserv being spun off as "independent agencies" with no direct congressional or executive oversight.
As I said, no one gives a shit about the Constitution nowadays.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (IG3/x)
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51 I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM
It says post offices and post roads. Doesn't say shit about delivery. /s
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (bFu5X)
We done got the buildin's and the roads, but who cares about the mail...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM
It says post offices and post roads. Doesn't say shit about delivery. /s
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (bFu5X)
We done got the buildin's and the roads, but who cares about the mail...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (l3cgK)
57
I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
The Constitution authorizes Congress to establish a postal system, but does not mandate that it do so. Congress could go ahead and abolish the USPS, no amendment needed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
The Constitution authorizes Congress to establish a postal system, but does not mandate that it do so. Congress could go ahead and abolish the USPS, no amendment needed.
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (77rzZ)
58
oh I have a LIST:
- Cali, duh
- Washington
- Oregon
- New Mexico
- Hawaii
- Alaska
- Delaware (just make it part of NJ or something)
- Maine
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM
Hey! You're missing one.
- Massachusetts
- Cali, duh
- Washington
- Oregon
- New Mexico
- Hawaii
- Alaska
- Delaware (just make it part of NJ or something)
- Maine
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM
Hey! You're missing one.
- Massachusetts
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (bFu5X)
59
"If you ever deliver a letter from that kid's school, to that house again......."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
*fires up pizza oven*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
*fires up pizza oven*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (F8sQr)
60
First principles -- no aspect of voting can ever be left to state control, oversight, or institutions.
Voting only works if it is a competitive process between candidates (actually, parties) overseen at the local level and facilitated by the state, but never ever relying on the state to keep it honest.
ie, mail in ballots only work if their numbers are so low that they don't matter.
We have forgotten this, but state employees doing the counting? state workers handling chain of custody? this is all absurd.
Every step that matters must have representatives from at minimum two candidates (parties) making sure it is honest.
Voting only works if it is a competitive process between candidates (actually, parties) overseen at the local level and facilitated by the state, but never ever relying on the state to keep it honest.
ie, mail in ballots only work if their numbers are so low that they don't matter.
We have forgotten this, but state employees doing the counting? state workers handling chain of custody? this is all absurd.
Every step that matters must have representatives from at minimum two candidates (parties) making sure it is honest.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (Gl2UJ)
61
This got past a DC judge already?
That is the biggest surprise here...
That is the biggest surprise here...
Posted by: Inogame at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (53oGX)
62
We done got the buildin's and the roads, but who cares about the mail...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM
A perfect government program!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM
A perfect government program!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:29 PM (bFu5X)
63
I pondered adding Mass but I dunno
there are more good parts than bad
it's not a problem if you isolate Boston. which is why CT and IL aren't on the list
there are more good parts than bad
it's not a problem if you isolate Boston. which is why CT and IL aren't on the list
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:30 PM (j+aD2)
64
please close the USPS
SHUT IT DOWN!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (j+aD2)
I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (l3cgK)
_____
IIRC, Constitution expressly authorizes congress to establish a post office. It does not explicitly require congress to do it, or to fund it. I think Congress could shut it down or refuse to fund more than the barest minimum. I don't know if the president can do that by EO.
SHUT IT DOWN!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:25 PM (j+aD2)
I believe the Post Office is in the Constitution itself, so that would take an amendment...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:26 PM (l3cgK)
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IIRC, Constitution expressly authorizes congress to establish a post office. It does not explicitly require congress to do it, or to fund it. I think Congress could shut it down or refuse to fund more than the barest minimum. I don't know if the president can do that by EO.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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This Postal Service part of mail-in ballots is it's Achilles heel. Mail-in ballots can be regulated in so many ways.
Just some quick spit balling:
The Postal Service needs certification to transport election ballots.
Each person that may handle or direct someone who handles mailed ballots must be bonded.
Ballots may not be coming led with regular mail.
Photo evidence of delivery at each point of handling.
Special stamps for ballots and special handling instructions.
Special envelopes with watermarks.
All ballot mail marked with maximum legal punishment for election fraud.
Maximum number of ballots per address.
The Dems can regulate away so many rights for the law abiding through Environmental and Safety law we should be able to regulate away the means of commie election cheating.
"It doesn't matter who votes by mail it only matter who controls the mail delivery".
In California it wouldn't stop the fraud but they would have to consider the impact of the extra time, cost, and effort for their mail in cheating.
Just some quick spit balling:
The Postal Service needs certification to transport election ballots.
Each person that may handle or direct someone who handles mailed ballots must be bonded.
Ballots may not be coming led with regular mail.
Photo evidence of delivery at each point of handling.
Special stamps for ballots and special handling instructions.
Special envelopes with watermarks.
All ballot mail marked with maximum legal punishment for election fraud.
Maximum number of ballots per address.
The Dems can regulate away so many rights for the law abiding through Environmental and Safety law we should be able to regulate away the means of commie election cheating.
"It doesn't matter who votes by mail it only matter who controls the mail delivery".
In California it wouldn't stop the fraud but they would have to consider the impact of the extra time, cost, and effort for their mail in cheating.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 10, 2026 02:30 PM (47/pr)
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Postmaster General used to be an important cabinet position. They handled a lot of the administration's patronage. All those postmaster jobs were particularly prized plums.
Postmaster General used to be an important cabinet position. They handled a lot of the administration's patronage. All those postmaster jobs were particularly prized plums.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2026 02:31 PM (54EQa)
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Frankly he should order the USPS not to deliver any ballots in any state, unless pehaps through registered mail.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 10, 2026 02:31 PM (mN9vv)
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Heh. There will be all kinds of sob stories of disenfranchised voters in the media. Not one of the interviewers will ask them if they need a ride or some help filling out a form or a number of myriad things they claim they just can't figure out to vote.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:31 PM (n5tGW)
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> Alaska
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (j+aD2)
Why?
The last time Alaska went Dem in a presidential election was LBJ in '64. It even went for Nixon in '60.
Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:27 PM (j+aD2)
Why?
The last time Alaska went Dem in a presidential election was LBJ in '64. It even went for Nixon in '60.
Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Karen Bass, Mayor For Life at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IqKsT)
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Wait until the Democrats get back in power and institute on-line voting with zero security.
Bots are voters too... H8rs
Vote tallies in the billions for the win. But at least they'd be counted in a timely fashion.
Bots are voters too... H8rs
Vote tallies in the billions for the win. But at least they'd be counted in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (jehhT)
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Kind of shutting the barn door after the horse escapes as far as the "primary" goes, but there could be fun before November.
Kind of shutting the barn door after the horse escapes as far as the "primary" goes, but there could be fun before November.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (n7rxJ)
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So far, 23 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia are suing, as are Democratic Party leaders and non-partisan voter advocacy groups, setting up a potentially active summer of high-stakes judicial rulings.
Odds that the SPLC is among them?
So far, 23 Democratic-led states and the District of Columbia are suing, as are Democratic Party leaders and non-partisan voter advocacy groups, setting up a potentially active summer of high-stakes judicial rulings.
Odds that the SPLC is among them?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (ixS3i)
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Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
I was trying to be fair? lol
but you're right, forget Alaska
I was trying to be fair? lol
but you're right, forget Alaska
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (j+aD2)
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Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
I think she is also taking aim at GOPe senators.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
I think she is also taking aim at GOPe senators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (zZu0s)
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Well it appears this won't affect me getting a pair of primary ballots. (unaffiliated voters get ballots for both R and D races, but only one ballot sleeve to return for one or the other, however I'd not be surprised if cheaters have some kind of system to vote in both party primarys)
I'd be thrilled if Colorado was blocked from mailing ballots, but probably they have or will comply with the order. I think this states vote rigging is mostly marking ballots for what the commies want for voters that don't bother to actually vote. The voter participation rates in 2020 for Biden and to block an amendment to limit abortions after 5 months were way higher than normal. the Soros SoS had loosened the signature verification so that it would accept almost anything as a valid signature vs having to be a fairly close match to the DL signature.
I'd be thrilled if Colorado was blocked from mailing ballots, but probably they have or will comply with the order. I think this states vote rigging is mostly marking ballots for what the commies want for voters that don't bother to actually vote. The voter participation rates in 2020 for Biden and to block an amendment to limit abortions after 5 months were way higher than normal. the Soros SoS had loosened the signature verification so that it would accept almost anything as a valid signature vs having to be a fairly close match to the DL signature.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (1TeQL)
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Election cheating? Covered in John 10:10, Christ says
'The thief does not come but to steal, kill and destroy. I am come that they may have life, and that more abundantly.'
'The thief does not come but to steal, kill and destroy. I am come that they may have life, and that more abundantly.'
Posted by: Eromero at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (LHPAg)
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Remember a key holding of the Obamacare Penalty-tax decision was that the feds could withhold funds if states did not comply but it could not order states to comply?
Which was repeating the rule, well-established since the 55mph speed limit and the 21 drinking age days?
But now all the Cartel Judges are suddenly finding Reasons why blue states must still get their funds even as they refuse compliance.
And the Reasons Why the federal government, at federal government expense, must deliver state's ballots, again, using federal resources--even though those states refuse to comply with the Motor Voter Law and other laws permitting federal inspection of voter rolls--will be Jumanji Jackson will-to-power stupid.
Which was repeating the rule, well-established since the 55mph speed limit and the 21 drinking age days?
But now all the Cartel Judges are suddenly finding Reasons why blue states must still get their funds even as they refuse compliance.
And the Reasons Why the federal government, at federal government expense, must deliver state's ballots, again, using federal resources--even though those states refuse to comply with the Motor Voter Law and other laws permitting federal inspection of voter rolls--will be Jumanji Jackson will-to-power stupid.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (73/SM)
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I almost wish we would take a page from the SPLC.
Have some conservative groups stage a mass mail in vote fraud ring with thousands of fake mail in ballots.
The evidence is already there, but make it more blatant.
I have thought for a while that if Republicans ever started cheating, you would see some movement to finally address it. But not until then.
Have some conservative groups stage a mass mail in vote fraud ring with thousands of fake mail in ballots.
The evidence is already there, but make it more blatant.
I have thought for a while that if Republicans ever started cheating, you would see some movement to finally address it. But not until then.
Posted by: Leupold at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (eIzlH)
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Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
You took the keys to Ace's time machine? Wait until he found out about. He was pissed!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
You took the keys to Ace's time machine? Wait until he found out about. He was pissed!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (1z8ji)
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Trump won Alaska by 15 points in '20, 10 points in '24, and 13 points in '28.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
I think you mean '16, '20 and '24.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
I think you mean '16, '20 and '24.
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (77rzZ)
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Point of order, the article keeps calling them "Democratic," when in fact, they are not. The real name is "Democrat," but they are certainly not in favor of democracy.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (bl07w)
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Wait until the Democrats get back in power and institute on-line voting with zero security.
Bots are voters too... H8rs
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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We prefer not to be called "bots."
Wait until the Democrats get back in power and institute on-line voting with zero security.
Bots are voters too... H8rs
Posted by: Martini Farmer
≈==================
We prefer not to be called "bots."
Posted by: Proud Cyber American at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (n7rxJ)
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> I think she is also taking aim at GOPe senators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (zZu0s)
Eh... Sullivan isn't that bad, and Begich isn't bad over in the House.
We primaried Murky once already, but her DC frenz helicoptered in metric fucktons of money to finance her "independent" campaign.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:33 PM (zZu0s)
Eh... Sullivan isn't that bad, and Begich isn't bad over in the House.
We primaried Murky once already, but her DC frenz helicoptered in metric fucktons of money to finance her "independent" campaign.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (IG3/x)
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CA will just institute online voting.
And, the next Dem regime could use this to require open balloting in all 50 states, or other nasty corporate marxist things.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (diia5)
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Completely traceable - the Fed possess the best IT forensics in the world. They would know everything. Can't go online.
And, the next Dem regime could use this to require open balloting in all 50 states, or other nasty corporate marxist things.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (diia5)
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Completely traceable - the Fed possess the best IT forensics in the world. They would know everything. Can't go online.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (GZYu7)
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>>> Trump Orders the Postal Service to Not Deliver Mail-In Ballots
They already do not deliver half of them.
Thr "R" ones.
They already do not deliver half of them.
Thr "R" ones.
Posted by: Operator Error at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (vr1/1)
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Sweet!! We're getting back to good news!!
I had murderous dreams last night.
It's nice to see President Trump use the pimp hand again.
It's 8:35 am in Hawaii right now, btw...
I had murderous dreams last night.
It's nice to see President Trump use the pimp hand again.
It's 8:35 am in Hawaii right now, btw...
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (Sco7b)
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> I think you mean '16, '20 and '24.
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (77rzZ)
I do. Durrrr...
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (77rzZ)
I do. Durrrr...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (IG3/x)
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Mail in ballots are a tax. Denied.
- SCOTUS
- SCOTUS
Posted by: Heroq at June 10, 2026 02:36 PM (Usr8X)
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Libs of Tiktok notes the the GoFundMe for Karmelo has now been taken down because of the conviction. It raised $625k.
Karmelo's mom was yelling racist after the sentencing.
No more cash for you
Karmelo's mom was yelling racist after the sentencing.
No more cash for you
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:37 PM (6V12Q)
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CNN publishes false claim on election integrity
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (rbvCR)
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Article 1, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish Post Offices and post Roads..."
one of Congress' enumerated powers, along with the power "To provide and maintain a Navy..."
So I guess Congress could just eliminate the Navy entirely, right? As long as the President signs off on it.
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish Post Offices and post Roads..."
one of Congress' enumerated powers, along with the power "To provide and maintain a Navy..."
So I guess Congress could just eliminate the Navy entirely, right? As long as the President signs off on it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)
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90 Libs of Tiktok notes the the GoFundMe for Karmelo has now been taken down because of the conviction. It raised $625k.
I saw somewhere that GoFundMe was refunding all the donated money?
I saw somewhere that GoFundMe was refunding all the donated money?
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (j+aD2)
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I'm forced to use mail in here in Washington State, so this means using their bullsh*t ballot collection boxes. Totally secure!!! /sarc
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (2WIwB)
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Yes, "unless" states obey federal directives in an area the federal government does indeed have supremacy over state law.
How about Immigration ? It was my impression that the Federal Government has supremacy over State Law.... Seems Judges have deemed otherwise.. This will be stopped by the same judges..
How about Immigration ? It was my impression that the Federal Government has supremacy over State Law.... Seems Judges have deemed otherwise.. This will be stopped by the same judges..
Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (3iJWA)
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I'd also like to see legislation wherein 1) vote auditing is mandatory, and 2) if some percentage is found to be fraudulent - say, 0.5% advantage by a campaign - the candidate/elector is disqualified and removed from the ballot or office (whichever comes first).
That would incentivize all camps to watch voting and stay within boundaries compulsively both to avoid running afoul of law and to restrict sabotaging another's campaign by throwing fake votes for opponents like a false flag operation.
That would incentivize all camps to watch voting and stay within boundaries compulsively both to avoid running afoul of law and to restrict sabotaging another's campaign by throwing fake votes for opponents like a false flag operation.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (oji8u)
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86 >>> Trump Orders the Postal Service to Not Deliver Mail-In Ballots
They already do not deliver half of them.
Thr "R" ones.
Posted by: Operator Error at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (vr1/1)
They make up for it in the volume of fake ballots delivered.
They already do not deliver half of them.
Thr "R" ones.
Posted by: Operator Error at June 10, 2026 02:35 PM (vr1/1)
They make up for it in the volume of fake ballots delivered.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (l3cgK)
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That was a subpar nood call.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (zZu0s)
CNN makes sub-par allegations on vote integrity
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:18 PM (zZu0s)
CNN makes sub-par allegations on vote integrity
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
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> The real name is "Democrat," but they are certainly not in favor of democracy.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (bl07w)
They're "democratic" in much the same way that North Korea is a "democratic republic".
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:34 PM (bl07w)
They're "democratic" in much the same way that North Korea is a "democratic republic".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (IG3/x)
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Posted by: Minuteman
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You can not make it that complex.
The solution is simple -- limit mail-in to such a low number that the mail-in vote is insignificant except for extremely rare conditions that can not be expected to ever happen.
Mail in can not ever be relied on for more than 1% or lower of the ballots. And it has to be subject to the same checks as regular ballots -- mailed to local precinct in time to be counted on election night.
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You can not make it that complex.
The solution is simple -- limit mail-in to such a low number that the mail-in vote is insignificant except for extremely rare conditions that can not be expected to ever happen.
Mail in can not ever be relied on for more than 1% or lower of the ballots. And it has to be subject to the same checks as regular ballots -- mailed to local precinct in time to be counted on election night.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (Gl2UJ)
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Being our POTUS, Trump is 100% in control of the U.S. Post Office originally established by Benjamin Franklin for U.S. communications and commerce.
However, not delivering ballots by the U.S. Post Office is only a performative measure that has only a minor influence on the fraud mail-in ballot problem. All that means is that instead of using U.S. mail they will stuff the ballot drop off boxes flooding the communities, trunks of union vehicles, and regional police (again unions) helicopters.
However, not delivering ballots by the U.S. Post Office is only a performative measure that has only a minor influence on the fraud mail-in ballot problem. All that means is that instead of using U.S. mail they will stuff the ballot drop off boxes flooding the communities, trunks of union vehicles, and regional police (again unions) helicopters.
Posted by: John at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (0DsdP)
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asserting state's rights is just a dogwhistle for wanting to reinstitute slavery
Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (0MjtC)
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What is a post road?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (Cqx++)
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I have no idea the intersection between the Executive Branch and USPS, but if they can make a myriad of laws about what the post office is allowed to deliver, shut down the vote by mail. It's not secure and the post office is not equipped to protect our democracy.
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It was merely a Post Office regulation that banned sending guns via mail, IIRC, not a law.
A regulation I think has also just been repealed.
And there's a whole list of otherwise legal items you're not allowed to mail.
So the rule is well-established that the Post Office has sole discretion as to what gets mailed.
Until a Cartel Judge learns Democrats ability to cheat is threatened ...
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It was merely a Post Office regulation that banned sending guns via mail, IIRC, not a law.
A regulation I think has also just been repealed.
And there's a whole list of otherwise legal items you're not allowed to mail.
So the rule is well-established that the Post Office has sole discretion as to what gets mailed.
Until a Cartel Judge learns Democrats ability to cheat is threatened ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (73/SM)
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But seriously, this is fricking hilarious and Trumpian and genius. I love it.
But seriously, this is fricking hilarious and Trumpian and genius. I love it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (n7rxJ)
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Jim maybe you like the post office, maybe you work there
where we are the post office is usually closed for no reason, doesn't function on a good day, and is now closed "for repairs" until God knows when
the time for the PO is sadly, past
or maybe the answer is a new office, one that works, no unions allowed, tech-savvy and all about great service and security?
just start fresh according to the Constitution
bc those founders did NOT mean the garbage heap our post offices in SE PA are now
where we are the post office is usually closed for no reason, doesn't function on a good day, and is now closed "for repairs" until God knows when
the time for the PO is sadly, past
or maybe the answer is a new office, one that works, no unions allowed, tech-savvy and all about great service and security?
just start fresh according to the Constitution
bc those founders did NOT mean the garbage heap our post offices in SE PA are now
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (j+aD2)
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I thought GoFundMe wouldn't allow $$$ for legal defense and they were using GiveSendGo for their hornswoggle of free money from idiots.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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94 I'm forced to use mail in here in Washington State, so this means using their bullsh*t ballot collection boxes. Totally secure!!! /sarc
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (2WIwB)
In Kali, I go, on Election DAY, to the nearby polling place (not to be confused by the nearby poling places) and put my envelope with my ballot into their bag.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (2WIwB)
In Kali, I go, on Election DAY, to the nearby polling place (not to be confused by the nearby poling places) and put my envelope with my ballot into their bag.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (l3cgK)
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92 Article 1, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish Post Offices and post Roads..."
one of Congress' enumerated powers, along with the power "To provide and maintain a Navy..."
So I guess Congress could just eliminate the Navy entirely, right? As long as the President signs off on it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)
They keep trying to eliminate not only the Navy but the entire military every decade or so. Bastages.
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish Post Offices and post Roads..."
one of Congress' enumerated powers, along with the power "To provide and maintain a Navy..."
So I guess Congress could just eliminate the Navy entirely, right? As long as the President signs off on it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)
They keep trying to eliminate not only the Navy but the entire military every decade or so. Bastages.
Posted by: Eromero at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (LHPAg)
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Libs of Tiktok notes the the GoFundMe for Karmelo has now been taken down because of the conviction. It raised $625k.
Karmelo's mom was yelling racist after the sentencing.
No more cash for you
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:37 PM (6V12Q)
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I heard reports that most of the money raised had to be returned.
It seems even stupid idiots dumb enough to donate to this punk's "legal defense" aren't so dumb not to know they were being played for chumps as soon as they saw the money was being used to fund the parents' lavish lifestyle. They saw that and demanded the money back on the ground that it was fraudulently solicited.
I saw thie reported in multiple places, but I do not vouche for its veracity.
Karmelo's mom was yelling racist after the sentencing.
No more cash for you
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:37 PM (6V12Q)
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I heard reports that most of the money raised had to be returned.
It seems even stupid idiots dumb enough to donate to this punk's "legal defense" aren't so dumb not to know they were being played for chumps as soon as they saw the money was being used to fund the parents' lavish lifestyle. They saw that and demanded the money back on the ground that it was fraudulently solicited.
I saw thie reported in multiple places, but I do not vouche for its veracity.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (rbvCR)
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WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE THE LAST CORRUPT GOVERNOR WAS KATE BROWN THE NOTED BISEXUAL
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:42 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2026 02:42 PM (oY6Yp)
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@107 I stand corrected, it was GiveSendGo
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:43 PM (6V12Q)
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The point of the thing is too get the voter rolls, because then they have something to compare the actual votes against. And if the voter rolls are transparent, then enterprising people can say look this is a vacant lot, you can't accept a ballot at this address. This will be much easier these days, with computers and AI.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:43 PM (n5tGW)
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If I were guessing, I'd guess that the people who gin up these riots realize that homey ain't gonna play dat in Texas.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:43 PM (IG3/x)
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Been to a post orifice lately? The people working there make the bar scene in Star Wars look tame.
When did they stop hiring heterosexuals?
When did they stop hiring heterosexuals?
Posted by: Cliff Clavin at June 10, 2026 02:44 PM (IqKsT)
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Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (j+aD2)
I'm not a Gov't worker. I do not love the Post Office. I don't hate it like the DMV, but I don't love it either. My point is that I believe the Executive branch probably can't alone decide to close down the entire thing or even part of it; Congress, having the power to establish it probably has the power to pass legislation regulating it. We'll see how the courts look at it.
I'm not a Gov't worker. I do not love the Post Office. I don't hate it like the DMV, but I don't love it either. My point is that I believe the Executive branch probably can't alone decide to close down the entire thing or even part of it; Congress, having the power to establish it probably has the power to pass legislation regulating it. We'll see how the courts look at it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:44 PM (l3cgK)
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As I've said, I really hope the majority, in the post-election day ballot counting decision rumored to drop tomorrow, puts a footnote along the lines of:
The thing the dissent says never happens just happened in CA, where the losing candidate suddenly surged to a win solely on ballots mailed after election day.
The thing the dissent says never happens just happened in CA, where the losing candidate suddenly surged to a win solely on ballots mailed after election day.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 10, 2026 02:44 PM (73/SM)
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Unfortunately, Congress has rejected, incredibly, any opportunity to rectify, permanently, fraud operations in elections. They're "afraid" to protect the single-most important thing they claim needed to preserve democracy and the US.
Which is to conclude they reject democracy since they won't fix voting. Really fix, not "fix". "Fixing" is part of the kink.
Which is to conclude they reject democracy since they won't fix voting. Really fix, not "fix". "Fixing" is part of the kink.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (oji8u)
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Meh...blue states will circumvent this directive pretty simply. They will remove the obligation for the mail-in ballot to possess a post mark. If anything, it makes the fraud easier.
Posted by: Orson at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (dIske)
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They don't get to secede. The land stays. They however can GTFO and leave personally.
Posted by: JJ at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (uiYjs)
123
111 Oregon will just start sending out ballots by UPS
"do it brown"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (rbvCR)
Ballots replace the Sears Catalog in out houses?
"do it brown"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (rbvCR)
Ballots replace the Sears Catalog in out houses?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (l3cgK)
124
You would think the GOP sees this shit and gets off its collective ass to pass the SAVE Act. It would hamper some of the fraud. Maybe not the local/county/state shit, but it would put a crimp in the national election fraud.
*snickers at silly thoughts about the GOP actually doing something relevant.*
*snickers at silly thoughts about the GOP actually doing something relevant.*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (jehhT)
125
I saw thie reported in multiple places, but I do not vouche for its veracity.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
The hilarious thing is they acted like retards who won the lottery. I can see moving someplace better (especially if their neighborhood was shit) but they just went full retard.
Its like the Dave Ramsey thing that people will spend the same as they have been taught no matter if they have a billion or are plumb broke.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
The hilarious thing is they acted like retards who won the lottery. I can see moving someplace better (especially if their neighborhood was shit) but they just went full retard.
Its like the Dave Ramsey thing that people will spend the same as they have been taught no matter if they have a billion or are plumb broke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
126
102 asserting state's rights is just a dogwhistle for wanting to reinstitute slavery
Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (0MjtC)
Standing up for states's rights will get freedom for everybody.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (0MjtC)
Standing up for states's rights will get freedom for everybody.
Posted by: Eromero at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (LHPAg)
127
...or maybe the answer is a new office, one that works, no unions allowed, tech-savvy and all about great service and security?
just start fresh according to the Constitution
bc those founders did NOT mean the garbage heap our post offices in SE PA are now
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (j+aD2
...
I've had some interesting experiences in the last year with mail. Sending anything to the Oklahoma City area, and to Austin can take a week or more. And is if it gets there at all. Used to be 3-4 days and reliable.
just start fresh according to the Constitution
bc those founders did NOT mean the garbage heap our post offices in SE PA are now
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (j+aD2
...
I've had some interesting experiences in the last year with mail. Sending anything to the Oklahoma City area, and to Austin can take a week or more. And is if it gets there at all. Used to be 3-4 days and reliable.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (2WIwB)
128
Looks like the Fenians and Orange boyos in Northern Ireland have finally found some common ground with respect to not wanting Third World "immigrants" slicing open people's eyeballs.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (IG3/x)
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>>> 122 They don't get to secede. The land stays. They however can GTFO and leave personally.
Posted by: JJ at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (uiYjs)
Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: JJ at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (uiYjs)
Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (R+iUD)
130
So I guess Congress could just eliminate the Navy entirely, right? As long as the President signs off on it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)
That's kinda what "Power of the Purse" means.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)
That's kinda what "Power of the Purse" means.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (edUvp)
Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (oY6Yp)
132
If I were guessing, I'd guess that the people who gin up these riots realize that homey ain't gonna play dat in Texas.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:43 PM (IG3/x)
If the details of the case were different, maybe. But this shithead is NOT sympathetic. He went there spoiling for a fight he would and did turn deadly.
But, Floyd was not exactly sympathetic either.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:43 PM (IG3/x)
If the details of the case were different, maybe. But this shithead is NOT sympathetic. He went there spoiling for a fight he would and did turn deadly.
But, Floyd was not exactly sympathetic either.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (zZu0s)
133
It's not about the mail in ballot cheating, its about the voter rolls and illegal voting.
I've always thought it was about who was counting anyway. That's where the real danger is.
I've always thought it was about who was counting anyway. That's where the real danger is.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (n5tGW)
134
Auditing is nice, but it is only necessary because we have handed the entire process to the state.
voting should never be run by the state!!!!
Auditing should be an audit of the *process* not the votes. The vote integrity should be self evident in real time as it happens.
- vote rolls published and finalized weeks before election. Period.
- time for canvassing by parties to check rolls are legit with no false names/addresses
- voting at local precincts overseen by party representatives
- count at local precincts overseen by party representatives.
- counts move up the hierarchy, but by now they are public and anyone can add them up.
So what needs to be audited? local candidates and parties have already seen it all happen in real time. Auditing only checks that numbers were added correctly with no out of chain-of-custody votes included. Final canvassing to make sure no false votes inserted.
but what happened is we let the cities run by one party lose chain-of-custody checks (precinct numbers never add up) and have no independent oversight (there is only one party) That inserted fraud. Dems expanded that fraud to take control of entire election by centralizing...
voting should never be run by the state!!!!
Auditing should be an audit of the *process* not the votes. The vote integrity should be self evident in real time as it happens.
- vote rolls published and finalized weeks before election. Period.
- time for canvassing by parties to check rolls are legit with no false names/addresses
- voting at local precincts overseen by party representatives
- count at local precincts overseen by party representatives.
- counts move up the hierarchy, but by now they are public and anyone can add them up.
So what needs to be audited? local candidates and parties have already seen it all happen in real time. Auditing only checks that numbers were added correctly with no out of chain-of-custody votes included. Final canvassing to make sure no false votes inserted.
but what happened is we let the cities run by one party lose chain-of-custody checks (precinct numbers never add up) and have no independent oversight (there is only one party) That inserted fraud. Dems expanded that fraud to take control of entire election by centralizing...
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (Gl2UJ)
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Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (2WIwB)
Have you given us a geezer golf update yet today?
Have you given us a geezer golf update yet today?
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (77rzZ)
136
121 Meh...blue states will circumvent this directive pretty simply. They will remove the obligation for the mail-in ballot to possess a post mark. If anything, it makes the fraud easier.
I'm not sure there IS an obligation to have a post mark now.
I'm not sure there IS an obligation to have a post mark now.
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (j+aD2)
137
> Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (R+iUD)
I like shitholes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (R+iUD)
I like shitholes.
Posted by: The Late Barney Frank at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (IG3/x)
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Photo evidence of delivery at each point of handling.
This part is already being done, it is a response to both the automatic sorting AND the anthrax letter scare
This part is already being done, it is a response to both the automatic sorting AND the anthrax letter scare
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (rbvCR)
139
Of course they won't secede despite all the empty threats. As has been noted, shitlibs are so pornsick that everything they do is somehow related to sex, and in this case forcing the unwilling is the kink. If only there was a word for forced participation in a sexual act.
Posted by: Saber Alter at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (K5yMI)
140
126 102 asserting state's rights is just a dogwhistle for wanting to reinstitute slavery
Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (0MjtC)
Standing up for states's rights will get freedom for everybody.
Posted by: Eromero at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (LHPAg)
::: does Rebel Yell :::
Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (0MjtC)
Standing up for states's rights will get freedom for everybody.
Posted by: Eromero at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (LHPAg)
::: does Rebel Yell :::
Posted by: Zombie Confederate Rebel at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (l3cgK)
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Posted by: Minuteman
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You can not make it that complex.
The solution is simple -- limit mail-in to such a low number that the mail-in vote is insignificant except for extremely rare conditions that can not be expected to ever happen.
Mail in can not ever be relied on for more than 1% or lower of the ballots. And it has to be subject to the same checks as regular ballots -- mailed to local precinct in time to be counted on election night.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (Gl2UJ)
I'm saying this with tears in my eyes:
Everything you say is absolutely true. But we are not dealing with good faith humans here, we're dealing with commies. In a perfect world we would be seeing them dropping out of helicopters like snowflakes on a chilly Christmas day in Indianapolis.That's the real solution to our current delimma.
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You can not make it that complex.
The solution is simple -- limit mail-in to such a low number that the mail-in vote is insignificant except for extremely rare conditions that can not be expected to ever happen.
Mail in can not ever be relied on for more than 1% or lower of the ballots. And it has to be subject to the same checks as regular ballots -- mailed to local precinct in time to be counted on election night.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:39 PM (Gl2UJ)
I'm saying this with tears in my eyes:
Everything you say is absolutely true. But we are not dealing with good faith humans here, we're dealing with commies. In a perfect world we would be seeing them dropping out of helicopters like snowflakes on a chilly Christmas day in Indianapolis.That's the real solution to our current delimma.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (47/pr)
142
I've had some interesting experiences in the last year with mail. Sending anything to the Oklahoma City area, and to Austin can take a week or more. And is if it gets there at all. Used to be 3-4 days and reliable.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (2WIwB)
If it hits the sorting center in Coppell, Tx, it's GUARANTEED to be delayed, if not lost. THAT place is run and staffed by blithering idiots that don't see to give a f*ck about shit.
I've had some interesting experiences in the last year with mail. Sending anything to the Oklahoma City area, and to Austin can take a week or more. And is if it gets there at all. Used to be 3-4 days and reliable.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (2WIwB)
If it hits the sorting center in Coppell, Tx, it's GUARANTEED to be delayed, if not lost. THAT place is run and staffed by blithering idiots that don't see to give a f*ck about shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
143
Karmelo's mom was yelling racist after the sentencing.
No more cash for you
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:37 PM (6V12Q)
I guess she will just have her next kid shiv somebody to keep the scam intact.
No more cash for you
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2026 02:37 PM (6V12Q)
I guess she will just have her next kid shiv somebody to keep the scam intact.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (bl07w)
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19 I think the USPS is one of those "quasi-independent agencies" nowadays, so perhaps it will turn on the Supreme Court decision that is apparently upcoming in regard to the Federal Reserve (another "quasi-independent agency").
Ever notice that "non-partisan" and "quasi-independent" outfits always seem to be somewhere on to the left of Leon Trotsky?
Weird, huh?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Not really, it is a government corporation like the Bonneville Power Administration, the TVA, etc. but the president appoints the Postmaster General and it is a core function of the executive branch as per the US Constitution as one of the rare mentions of specific agencies in that document. Army and Navy are likewise.
It it not a quasi independent regulatory agency which is what you are thinking of and what Humphrey's Executor Scotus decision dealt with.
As far as the Post Office, Myers v. US is the ruling case which puts president at the top of the executive branch and the post office under that.
Ever notice that "non-partisan" and "quasi-independent" outfits always seem to be somewhere on to the left of Leon Trotsky?
Weird, huh?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
=====
Not really, it is a government corporation like the Bonneville Power Administration, the TVA, etc. but the president appoints the Postmaster General and it is a core function of the executive branch as per the US Constitution as one of the rare mentions of specific agencies in that document. Army and Navy are likewise.
It it not a quasi independent regulatory agency which is what you are thinking of and what Humphrey's Executor Scotus decision dealt with.
As far as the Post Office, Myers v. US is the ruling case which puts president at the top of the executive branch and the post office under that.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (E4rtv)
145
Mail in has become less of a problem in California - though it still exists. Ballot harvesting is perfectly legal there - but in other states this will have an impact. I think Washington and Georgia and Wisconsin in particular - though Georgia probably provided access to the voting rolls.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (GZYu7)
146
*seem
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
147
> I've always thought it was about who was counting anyway.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (n5tGW)
You are correct, tovarishch.
Now please to get on train.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM (n5tGW)
You are correct, tovarishch.
Now please to get on train.
Posted by: Broseph Stalin at June 10, 2026 02:49 PM (IG3/x)
148
I saw thie reported in multiple places, but I do not vouche for its veracity.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
The hilarious thing is they acted like retards who won the lottery. I can see moving someplace better (especially if their neighborhood was shit) but they just went full retard.
Its like the Dave Ramsey thing that people will spend the same as they have been taught no matter if they have a billion or are plumb broke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
_____
Yup. His slimy grifter parents stole all the money, flaunted it in everyone's face like rappers making a dis video, and there was nothing left for his legal defense.
He had to plead poverty top get a public defender. Some hotshot lawyer eventually took the case over. But then he fucked it dead through the asshole with one of the worst defenses ever put on ... ever. The prosecution witnesses basically testified for the defense.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
The hilarious thing is they acted like retards who won the lottery. I can see moving someplace better (especially if their neighborhood was shit) but they just went full retard.
Its like the Dave Ramsey thing that people will spend the same as they have been taught no matter if they have a billion or are plumb broke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 10, 2026 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
_____
Yup. His slimy grifter parents stole all the money, flaunted it in everyone's face like rappers making a dis video, and there was nothing left for his legal defense.
He had to plead poverty top get a public defender. Some hotshot lawyer eventually took the case over. But then he fucked it dead through the asshole with one of the worst defenses ever put on ... ever. The prosecution witnesses basically testified for the defense.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 02:50 PM (iFTx/)
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"Treat whitey like Karmello Anthony did!"
Huh. All this time I didn't think y'all liked being in chains.
Huh. All this time I didn't think y'all liked being in chains.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)
150
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:46 PM (2WIwB)
Have you given us a geezer golf update yet today?
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (77rzZ)
Did one on the ONT...
Finished third in what was a wet, and blustery day and skinned the greyhairs for $24. I thought it was less but I won some extra for getting closest to the pen on a par 3.
Have you given us a geezer golf update yet today?
Posted by: Bulg at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (77rzZ)
Did one on the ONT...
Finished third in what was a wet, and blustery day and skinned the greyhairs for $24. I thought it was less but I won some extra for getting closest to the pen on a par 3.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (2WIwB)
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Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
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> This part is already being done, it is a response to both the automatic sorting AND the anthrax letter scare
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (rbvCR)
Yeah, you can even go to the PO website and see the picture of your mail that's out for delivery that day.
Sometimes handy if you're expecting a package.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 02:48 PM (rbvCR)
Yeah, you can even go to the PO website and see the picture of your mail that's out for delivery that day.
Sometimes handy if you're expecting a package.
Posted by: Broseph Stalin at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (IG3/x)
153
If they seceded, who would they have to demonize? They're atheists, but they can't live without a devil.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 10, 2026 02:52 PM (XvL8K)
154
My mom used to mail things from the office in Anchorage to the office in Kenai, which is a 20 minute flight. Mail is flown here, not driven, because of the lack of roads and also it is just as expensive to do so.
Things would routinely go missing, and she would have to go chew out the idiots at the post office to find them. Wherever they were, they hadn't gone far, and she was usually successful.
Finally the airlines started carrying parcels for a fee, so she switched to that and never lost anything again.
Mom didn't curse, but she had a few choice words for the USPS.
Things would routinely go missing, and she would have to go chew out the idiots at the post office to find them. Wherever they were, they hadn't gone far, and she was usually successful.
Finally the airlines started carrying parcels for a fee, so she switched to that and never lost anything again.
Mom didn't curse, but she had a few choice words for the USPS.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:52 PM (bl07w)
155
Democrats can count, but many traditional languages have limited number words, often using a "one, two, many" system.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 10, 2026 02:52 PM (Kt19C)
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Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Maybe the prisoners in Tx are paying attention.......
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Maybe the prisoners in Tx are paying attention.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)
157
If *I* won the lottery I'd... pay some bills, make improvements that would (hopefully) reduce future bills, and buy a few items to make critter care easier. Oh, it would be nice to have a shop.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:53 PM (R+iUD)
158
And when the Cartel Judge rules the Post Office must deliver the ballots ....
Trump should issue a regulation that the postage for non-compliant states is $150 per ballot, pre-paid by the state.
Trump should issue a regulation that the postage for non-compliant states is $150 per ballot, pre-paid by the state.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 10, 2026 02:53 PM (73/SM)
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12 Let's just go one step further and shut it all down.
I have no idea the intersection between the Executive Branch and USPS, but if they can make a myriad of laws about what the post office is allowed to deliver, shut down the vote by mail. It's not secure and the post office is not equipped to protect our democracy.
Posted by: Leupold
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That would be a harder lift constitutionally than what Trump proposed. And what you may or may not know is that the USPS since the 9/11 days developed and implemented photo scanning and digitizing those images of every piece of mail of the outside of envelopes. That indicates the time, date, and where it was scanned making insertion of fraudulent votes via mail very risky.
They did it to stop any new uses of the mail to send anthrax, bombs, etc. via the mail and parcel service. But it can be employed for what Trump proposes as well.
I have no idea the intersection between the Executive Branch and USPS, but if they can make a myriad of laws about what the post office is allowed to deliver, shut down the vote by mail. It's not secure and the post office is not equipped to protect our democracy.
Posted by: Leupold
========
That would be a harder lift constitutionally than what Trump proposed. And what you may or may not know is that the USPS since the 9/11 days developed and implemented photo scanning and digitizing those images of every piece of mail of the outside of envelopes. That indicates the time, date, and where it was scanned making insertion of fraudulent votes via mail very risky.
They did it to stop any new uses of the mail to send anthrax, bombs, etc. via the mail and parcel service. But it can be employed for what Trump proposes as well.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM (E4rtv)
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I'm old enough to remember a time where you either in-person voted or applied for and qualified for an absentee ballot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)
161
I remember when some guy took advantage of a loophole to mail enough concrete blocks to construct a building out in one of the villages. Cheapest way to get 'em out there.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM (IG3/x)
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What happened is that fraud was rampant in Dem cities.
Everyone allowed this, as they were shitting in their own pond and pointing that out would be racists. We let the cockroaches into the pantry thinking they would only eat the crumbs on the floor.
But the dems understood that that was their key. So they expanded their fraud operations to cover the entire country. Mail in, central counting, harvesting, no chain-of-custody, no party oversight, same day registration, no public voter rolls (they change too quickly), no signature, no ID, no citizenship, computers, etc. etc.
ALL those things have to be rolled back.
Everyone allowed this, as they were shitting in their own pond and pointing that out would be racists. We let the cockroaches into the pantry thinking they would only eat the crumbs on the floor.
But the dems understood that that was their key. So they expanded their fraud operations to cover the entire country. Mail in, central counting, harvesting, no chain-of-custody, no party oversight, same day registration, no public voter rolls (they change too quickly), no signature, no ID, no citizenship, computers, etc. etc.
ALL those things have to be rolled back.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM (Gl2UJ)
163
It is so entirely simple to make it fair and transparent which of course means it will never happen.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM (n5tGW)
164
Best ever Post office story. Envelope for box rent with a check in it returned in the mail slot in the very same post office. They sent the damn envelope to Dallas and then lost it. Then sent a notice the box rent hadn't been paid.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (5P5DO)
165
You go, TRUMP!!!
Posted by: Joe at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (Uy/WF)
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Elric The Blade: "But then he fucked it dead through the asshole with one of the worst defenses ever put on ... ever. The prosecution witnesses basically testified for the defense."
I'm satisfied with that development if that actually happened. I want more than law; I want justice. It seems justice was served though restitution/punishment might've come up a bit short.
I'm satisfied with that development if that actually happened. I want more than law; I want justice. It seems justice was served though restitution/punishment might've come up a bit short.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (oji8u)
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151 Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Gee, that's too bad.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Gee, that's too bad.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (bl07w)
168
If *I* won the lottery I'd... pay some bills, make improvements that would (hopefully) reduce future bills, and buy a few items to make critter care easier. Oh, it would be nice to have a shop.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:53 PM (R+iUD)
I would put a nicer house on our land, move forward with the pipe dream of the RV Park on the other plot of land and get me a Tri-Z 250. I've ALWAYS wanted one of those.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:53 PM (R+iUD)
I would put a nicer house on our land, move forward with the pipe dream of the RV Park on the other plot of land and get me a Tri-Z 250. I've ALWAYS wanted one of those.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (Zz0t1)
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States' rights! States' rights! States' rights!
---
You might not remember when States Rights was racist.
But Pepperidge Farms does.
States' rights! States' rights! States' rights!
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You might not remember when States Rights was racist.
But Pepperidge Farms does.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (Fi81e)
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"Meh...blue states will circumvent this directive pretty simply. They will remove the obligation for the mail-in ballot to possess a post mark. If anything, it makes the fraud easier.
I'm not sure there IS an obligation to have a post mark now.
Posted by: Black Orchid"
That would be racist. Black people can't figure that out.
I'm not sure there IS an obligation to have a post mark now.
Posted by: Black Orchid"
That would be racist. Black people can't figure that out.
Posted by: Ripley at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (GUOwU)
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158 And when the Cartel Judge rules the Post Office must deliver the ballots ....
Trump should issue a regulation that the postage for non-compliant states is $150 per ballot, pre-paid by the state.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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I think that is a losing cause because of collateral estoppel, if the states lose the current case, another judge is not going to be able to revive it elsewhere. Scotus is getting tired of that and simply issuing stays of any of these hacks in black injunctions pending appellate review.
There is a current shitshow regarding a RI judge trying to order TX judge and the 5th Circuit not to investigate a tranny med shop and now an idiot district judge in CA is trying to join in on the action. Scotus is going to end up slapping both the RI and CA judges down over it is the probable result.
Trump should issue a regulation that the postage for non-compliant states is $150 per ballot, pre-paid by the state.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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I think that is a losing cause because of collateral estoppel, if the states lose the current case, another judge is not going to be able to revive it elsewhere. Scotus is getting tired of that and simply issuing stays of any of these hacks in black injunctions pending appellate review.
There is a current shitshow regarding a RI judge trying to order TX judge and the 5th Circuit not to investigate a tranny med shop and now an idiot district judge in CA is trying to join in on the action. Scotus is going to end up slapping both the RI and CA judges down over it is the probable result.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (E4rtv)
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I guess she will just have her next kid shiv somebody to keep the scam intact.
Posted by: tcn in AK
I'm not volunteering to contribute to that project.
Posted by: tcn in AK
I'm not volunteering to contribute to that project.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (gKWVE)
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I like the part in the post that says “ if courts let the order stand” — well, not “ like-like”
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 02:56 PM (Gqar8)
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Years ago, the USPS was so deep in the shit they were ready to fail. My company helped them modernize and bail them out. It was in our best interests because we had on-site post offices in our facilities.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 10, 2026 02:57 PM (SRceu)
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164 Best ever Post office story. Envelope for box rent with a check in it returned in the mail slot in the very same post office. They sent the damn envelope to Dallas and then lost it. Then sent a notice the box rent hadn't been paid.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Which is why I pay the clerk in person and keep the receipt.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Which is why I pay the clerk in person and keep the receipt.
Posted by: clarence at June 10, 2026 02:57 PM (FLIKO)
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If courts let the order stand, it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections -- and could put even more voter data in the hands of Trump officials searching for supposed election fraud.
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Gee, @grok, what are the drawbacks of using a federal service in elections--unlike what was done 20 years ago?
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Gee, @grok, what are the drawbacks of using a federal service in elections--unlike what was done 20 years ago?
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 02:57 PM (Fi81e)
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To be fair, sometimes UPS, FedEx, and the Zon do some crazy shit too.
I remember ordering a new computer and tracking its journey. It left Shenzen, flew to Anchorage, cleared customs here, then flew to Erlanger, Kentucky, then back to Anchorage.
I'm sure that makes sense in some bean counter's mind, but it sure doesn't to me.
I remember ordering a new computer and tracking its journey. It left Shenzen, flew to Anchorage, cleared customs here, then flew to Erlanger, Kentucky, then back to Anchorage.
I'm sure that makes sense in some bean counter's mind, but it sure doesn't to me.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:58 PM (IG3/x)
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151 Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
clearly, the uk needs common sense boiling water control.
clearly, the uk needs common sense boiling water control.
Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (oY6Yp)
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Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
Meh...I've been there. He's full of shit. Much like Haiti.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
Meh...I've been there. He's full of shit. Much like Haiti.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (bFu5X)
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Best ever Post office story. Envelope for box rent with a check in it returned in the mail slot in the very same post office. They sent the damn envelope to Dallas and then lost it. Then sent a notice the box rent hadn't been paid.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (5P5DO)
I ordered something online that originated from McAllen, TX. It went through Ft. Worth, then to Kansas. It spent a couple days rolling around Kansas before it went back to Ft. Worth. It left Ft. Worth to Coppell, Tx. It returned to Ft. Worth before being finally delivered to the local post office location here and delivered the next day. The Coppell facility is 10 miles away from here.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 02:55 PM (5P5DO)
I ordered something online that originated from McAllen, TX. It went through Ft. Worth, then to Kansas. It spent a couple days rolling around Kansas before it went back to Ft. Worth. It left Ft. Worth to Coppell, Tx. It returned to Ft. Worth before being finally delivered to the local post office location here and delivered the next day. The Coppell facility is 10 miles away from here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)
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States don't have any "rights" to the US Postal System.
They weren't there, so they do not retain those rights.
This is more lefty make-it-up-as-you-go stuff.
They weren't there, so they do not retain those rights.
This is more lefty make-it-up-as-you-go stuff.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Fi81e)
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From my experiences FedEx and UPS are light years ahead of the USPS. The postal service has burned me many times.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Gqar8)
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That would be racist. Black people can't figure that out.
Posted by: Ripley
The legal counsel of the EEOC just released an opinion calling disparate impact analysis unconstitutional. That is in part to tee up a Scotus case burying Griggs v. Duke Power which created the disparate impact doctrine from whole cloth in the early 70's.
Awful decision contradicting the actual text of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But as in the VRA, the equal protection and due process clauses trump a statute and the rule is that if a statute and the constitution conflict, then the statute must be interpreted in such a way that no conflict exists.
Posted by: Ripley
The legal counsel of the EEOC just released an opinion calling disparate impact analysis unconstitutional. That is in part to tee up a Scotus case burying Griggs v. Duke Power which created the disparate impact doctrine from whole cloth in the early 70's.
Awful decision contradicting the actual text of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But as in the VRA, the equal protection and due process clauses trump a statute and the rule is that if a statute and the constitution conflict, then the statute must be interpreted in such a way that no conflict exists.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (E4rtv)
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Clarence, so do I. This happened to my business partner.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (5P5DO)
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That would be a harder lift constitutionally than what Trump proposed. And what you may or may not know is that the USPS since the 9/11 days developed and implemented photo scanning and digitizing those images of every piece of mail of the outside of envelopes. That indicates the time, date, and where it was scanned making insertion of fraudulent votes via mail very risky.
They did it to stop any new uses of the mail to send anthrax, bombs, etc. via the mail and parcel service. But it can be employed for what Trump proposes as well.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM
The number one problem with all of the fraud is not the postal service.
The fraudulent "votes" for the most part are not sent through the USPS, they are introduced at the local level after ballot counting has started either through stuffing drop boxes or boxes of ballots being found in the trunks of oldsmobiles parked in the back of the ballot counting buildings.
They did it to stop any new uses of the mail to send anthrax, bombs, etc. via the mail and parcel service. But it can be employed for what Trump proposes as well.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 02:54 PM
The number one problem with all of the fraud is not the postal service.
The fraudulent "votes" for the most part are not sent through the USPS, they are introduced at the local level after ballot counting has started either through stuffing drop boxes or boxes of ballots being found in the trunks of oldsmobiles parked in the back of the ballot counting buildings.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (0N4FZ)
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I'm sure that makes sense in some bean counter's mind, but it sure doesn't to me.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:58 PM (IG3/x)
I bet that Erlanger was the hub servicing Alabama, and someone misread Alaska
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:58 PM (IG3/x)
I bet that Erlanger was the hub servicing Alabama, and someone misread Alaska
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)
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I think the Haiti locals north and south have simply agreed that the capital Port-au-Pot is no longer to be taken seriously so they're handling their own shit without Cap'n BBQ's help.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (gKWVE)
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This is more lefty make-it-up-as-you-go stuff.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Fi81e)
Well, The Constitution is a living, breathing document, remember.
This is more lefty make-it-up-as-you-go stuff.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Fi81e)
Well, The Constitution is a living, breathing document, remember.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)
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In 1959 George Wallace was still a state court judge in Alabama. The Feds requested voter registration records of some "goose egg" counties, and Wallace ordered them impounded and ordered the sheriff to arrest any feds that showed up to examine them. Nothing was done. We passed two laws, 1960 CRA and 1965 VRA, to permit federal examination of voting records. Nothing changes. This will also do nothing.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 10, 2026 03:01 PM (wGerL)
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Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Oh no!
Anyway...
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Oh no!
Anyway...
Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (k9OZB)
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182 From my experiences FedEx and UPS are light years ahead of the USPS. The postal service has burned me many times.
Posted by: tubal
I have had more luck with USPS than Fed Ex for the last dozen years. UPS is a bit better on tracking than USPS but Fed Ex Ground service has sucked for a long time and has gotten worse over time.
The worst is smart post where USPS delivers and either UPS or Fed Ex originate to the local Post Office. That often ends up the worst of all possible worlds as the tracking often just stops and the item shows up unexpectedly much later or never shows up.
Posted by: tubal
I have had more luck with USPS than Fed Ex for the last dozen years. UPS is a bit better on tracking than USPS but Fed Ex Ground service has sucked for a long time and has gotten worse over time.
The worst is smart post where USPS delivers and either UPS or Fed Ex originate to the local Post Office. That often ends up the worst of all possible worlds as the tracking often just stops and the item shows up unexpectedly much later or never shows up.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (E4rtv)
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Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
Meh...I've been there. He's full of shit. Much like Haiti.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (bFu5X)
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Haiti is quite beautiful up in the mountains, once you get out of the cannibalistic cities. I dated a girl from there whose family maintained a property in the mountains. Sadly, I never got to go.
Shame the country has been run by cannibals and commies for 70 years. It should be a Caribbean vacation paradise, much like Dominican Republic is.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
Meh...I've been there. He's full of shit. Much like Haiti.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (bFu5X)
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Haiti is quite beautiful up in the mountains, once you get out of the cannibalistic cities. I dated a girl from there whose family maintained a property in the mountains. Sadly, I never got to go.
Shame the country has been run by cannibals and commies for 70 years. It should be a Caribbean vacation paradise, much like Dominican Republic is.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (iFTx/)
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> I bet that Erlanger was the hub servicing Alabama, and someone misread Alaska
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)
Good guess, but Amazon sends a lot of stuff for here through Erlanger. It's not a surprise to see packages coming from there per se, but flying it there from Anchorage only to fly it back TO Anchorage seems... suboptimal.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)
Good guess, but Amazon sends a lot of stuff for here through Erlanger. It's not a surprise to see packages coming from there per se, but flying it there from Anchorage only to fly it back TO Anchorage seems... suboptimal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (IG3/x)
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Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Mega LOLs.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 10, 2026 02:51 PM (QZThv)
Mega LOLs.
Posted by: Ian W. (no longer with us) at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (gKWVE)
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I ordered something online that originated from McAllen, TX. It went through Ft. Worth, then to Kansas. It spent a couple days rolling around Kansas before it went back to Ft. Worth. It left Ft. Worth to Coppell, Tx. It returned to Ft. Worth before being finally delivered to the local post office location here and delivered the next day. The Coppell facility is 10 miles away from here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)
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I lived about a mile from Detroit city limits. Our service was Detroit post office.
We were chosen as an address to give feed back about the mail service.
We received the questionnaire ~1 week after the deadline to submit it.
Clev-er.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)
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I lived about a mile from Detroit city limits. Our service was Detroit post office.
We were chosen as an address to give feed back about the mail service.
We received the questionnaire ~1 week after the deadline to submit it.
Clev-er.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (Fi81e)
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I bet that Erlanger was the hub servicing Alabama, and someone misread Alaska
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)
This happens, a lot. No idea why they can't remember that Alaska is AK and not AR, but apparently this is the caliber of postal employees.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)
This happens, a lot. No idea why they can't remember that Alaska is AK and not AR, but apparently this is the caliber of postal employees.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)
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Yobbos in prison taking care of business. Now about that Karmelo fellow.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (Gqar8)
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Ace wrote, "Look: Just secede already. You're agitating for it and I, for one, would love to be rid of you."
I get the sentiment but disagree. The question of secession was answered and settled in 1865: No state leaves. The Union is not to be broken. If nothing else, we cannot allow it due to sheer strategic necessity. A fractured US would be a weakness our foreign enemies wouldn't hesitate to exploit.
There may come the time (probably soon) when ballots no longer work and it comes down to bullets. It's happened before. If so, either we win or they do.
I get the sentiment but disagree. The question of secession was answered and settled in 1865: No state leaves. The Union is not to be broken. If nothing else, we cannot allow it due to sheer strategic necessity. A fractured US would be a weakness our foreign enemies wouldn't hesitate to exploit.
There may come the time (probably soon) when ballots no longer work and it comes down to bullets. It's happened before. If so, either we win or they do.
Posted by: troyriser at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (v1M8F)
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190 Just saw that Vickram Digwa had boiling water poured on him by other prisoners. Guess that’s where justice comes from now in the UK.
Posted by: Ian S.
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And that is what it is going to take unfortunately as the legal authorities have abandoned their duty to protect the existing populations of the UK in favor of their new pets.
Posted by: Ian S.
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And that is what it is going to take unfortunately as the legal authorities have abandoned their duty to protect the existing populations of the UK in favor of their new pets.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (E4rtv)
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Hey, there was a time when the Dominican Republic was in no better shape than Haiti.
Difference: the Dominicans decided they didn't have to live like that.
Difference: the Dominicans decided they didn't have to live like that.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 10, 2026 03:04 PM (gKWVE)
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We were chosen as an address to give feed back about the mail service.
We received the questionnaire ~1 week after the deadline to submit it.
Clev-er.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (Fi81e)
I would've submitted it anyway.
We received the questionnaire ~1 week after the deadline to submit it.
Clev-er.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (Fi81e)
I would've submitted it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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"...warning that voters around the country could be disenfranchised in this year's midterm elections if the proposal is not blocked."
Ahh, yes. The Disenfranchised Voter. Right up there with Bigfoot, the Yeti, and the Loch Ness Monster.
The threat that doesn't exist.
Ahh, yes. The Disenfranchised Voter. Right up there with Bigfoot, the Yeti, and the Loch Ness Monster.
The threat that doesn't exist.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 10, 2026 03:04 PM (oji8u)
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Absolutely NO to Cali secession. They would become a Chinese satrap in a week.
Posted by: Dawn Kee Peanus at June 10, 2026 03:04 PM (MQiXe)
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This happens, a lot. No idea why they can't remember that Alaska is AK and not AR, but apparently this is the caliber of postal employees.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)
I remember when Billy Jeff Clinton was still a thing. A lot of stuff intended for Hope, Arkansas wound up in Hope, Alaska.
This happens, a lot. No idea why they can't remember that Alaska is AK and not AR, but apparently this is the caliber of postal employees.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)
I remember when Billy Jeff Clinton was still a thing. A lot of stuff intended for Hope, Arkansas wound up in Hope, Alaska.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:05 PM (IG3/x)
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Hated it when Amazon went to post office delivery. They screw up a lot.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 03:05 PM (Gqar8)
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It works out much better if:
1.) A Democrat state secedes first, and it's allowed to pass
2.) The other States get together and expel the Leftist ones
1.) A Democrat state secedes first, and it's allowed to pass
2.) The other States get together and expel the Leftist ones
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 10, 2026 03:05 PM (BI5O2)
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Headline (The Hill)
"How a coming Supreme Court decision on mail-in ballots could impact California"
Excerpt:
"The Supreme Court is set to decide as soon as this week whether states can accept mail-in ballots that arrive after election day in a case that could invalidate the so-called grace period in places like California."
The case is Watson v. Republican National Committee
"How a coming Supreme Court decision on mail-in ballots could impact California"
Excerpt:
"The Supreme Court is set to decide as soon as this week whether states can accept mail-in ballots that arrive after election day in a case that could invalidate the so-called grace period in places like California."
The case is Watson v. Republican National Committee
Posted by: mrp at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (rj6Yv)
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185 The fraudulent "votes" for the most part are not sent through the USPS, they are introduced at the local level after ballot counting has started either through stuffing drop boxes or boxes of ballots being found in the trunks of oldsmobiles parked in the back of the ballot counting buildings.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (0N4FZ)
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The point of the USPS tracking would be to have the number of ballots received, so that sort of insertion after the fact can't happen.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 10, 2026 03:00 PM (0N4FZ)
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The point of the USPS tracking would be to have the number of ballots received, so that sort of insertion after the fact can't happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (6hlNa)
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The USPS decided that I don't have a mailing address here at the farm.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
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If you do this, then people will be forced to... VOTE IN PERSON!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (UZCuZ)
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I have something I need to get off my chest, and it is unfortunately not a cat.
I want to make sure you all understand that leftists are literally crazy.
There is a clear through-line from the ancient Gnostics to postmodern Critical Theory and its toxic offshoot Social Justice. If you don't know what that means, my dad's mom's side of the family are Christian Science, who actually believe that if you're sick it's because you're not believing in your health enough.
Sounds crazy, right? But I'm about to make it make sense. You have heard this before:
The material world is an illusion. We have been trapped in this filthy dirt not by a kind Creator, but a vicious Demiurge. There is no matter but what minds make, and if you believe hard enough you can change it.
Anything that makes you feel good has the power to make you lie to yourself to justify doing more of it, and the First Lie -- that you can be your own god -- is one such, as a flattery. While material incentive also plays a powerful role in why they stew in the filth of their failed policies like This Is Fine dog, in order to predict their behavior accurately, it's important to understand they're also crazy.
I want to make sure you all understand that leftists are literally crazy.
There is a clear through-line from the ancient Gnostics to postmodern Critical Theory and its toxic offshoot Social Justice. If you don't know what that means, my dad's mom's side of the family are Christian Science, who actually believe that if you're sick it's because you're not believing in your health enough.
Sounds crazy, right? But I'm about to make it make sense. You have heard this before:
The material world is an illusion. We have been trapped in this filthy dirt not by a kind Creator, but a vicious Demiurge. There is no matter but what minds make, and if you believe hard enough you can change it.
Anything that makes you feel good has the power to make you lie to yourself to justify doing more of it, and the First Lie -- that you can be your own god -- is one such, as a flattery. While material incentive also plays a powerful role in why they stew in the filth of their failed policies like This Is Fine dog, in order to predict their behavior accurately, it's important to understand they're also crazy.
Posted by: SciVo at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (Sy6m/)
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The disenfranchised voter they trot out is some 94-year-old terminally-gaga lady who last cast a ballot for Truman in '48.
The disenfranchised voter they trot out is some 94-year-old terminally-gaga lady who last cast a ballot for Truman in '48.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (54EQa)
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NVRA (1993), and VRA are just two of the constitutional laws governing elections. That because Congress can, according to Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 “ but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.”
DOJ Has the statutory duty to ensure compliance and voter list maintenance is very clearly defined in the statute.
To succeed on any challenge materially, the states would have to show harm, and in doing so would also have to defend not providing proof of compliance with both statutes, which would defeat their initial challenge to the collection. This os only being held up because federal judges are corrupt and helping to delay the review until after the midterms, which btw caused harm to the citizens and republic by allowing irreversible fraud to occur.
DOJ Has the statutory duty to ensure compliance and voter list maintenance is very clearly defined in the statute.
To succeed on any challenge materially, the states would have to show harm, and in doing so would also have to defend not providing proof of compliance with both statutes, which would defeat their initial challenge to the collection. This os only being held up because federal judges are corrupt and helping to delay the review until after the midterms, which btw caused harm to the citizens and republic by allowing irreversible fraud to occur.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (cn09p)
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209 The USPS decided that I don't have a mailing address here at the farm.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Good luck sorting that out.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Good luck sorting that out.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (Gqar8)
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Conan O'Brien, for one, assures me that Haiti is totes not a shithole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
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Had a co-worker who has been to Haiti on missionary trips many times. He told us stories about always having your bribe money ready and be ready for ANYBODY to try to shake you down.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 02:47 PM
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Had a co-worker who has been to Haiti on missionary trips many times. He told us stories about always having your bribe money ready and be ready for ANYBODY to try to shake you down.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)
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Yeah technically states like Oregon, nobody will be able to vote, because its all vote by mail but to be honest, they don't really count the ballots anyway so nothing will change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (UZCuZ)
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189 In 1959 George Wallace was still a state court judge in Alabama. The Feds requested voter registration records of some "goose egg" counties, and Wallace ordered them impounded and ordered the sheriff to arrest any feds that showed up to examine them. Nothing was done. We passed two laws, 1960 CRA and 1965 VRA, to permit federal examination of voting records. Nothing changes. This will also do nothing.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson
Actually, due to digital records, it is likely that the administration will prevail. States can keep separate records for state elections (see AZ with its weird federal or state ballots) but not for federal offices. It is likely that blue states will eventually lose this time too simply because the VRA has been renewed multiple times since 1965 with federal oversight strengthened along with the HAVA act which specifically authorizes fedgov ability to scrutinize voting rolls. It has just never been used and litigated that way yet.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson
Actually, due to digital records, it is likely that the administration will prevail. States can keep separate records for state elections (see AZ with its weird federal or state ballots) but not for federal offices. It is likely that blue states will eventually lose this time too simply because the VRA has been renewed multiple times since 1965 with federal oversight strengthened along with the HAVA act which specifically authorizes fedgov ability to scrutinize voting rolls. It has just never been used and litigated that way yet.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (E4rtv)
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Christian Science, who actually believe that if you're sick it's because you're not believing in your health enough
Not just them. Multimillions of idjits bought "The Secret". Because its cover was pretty.
Not just them. Multimillions of idjits bought "The Secret". Because its cover was pretty.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM (gKWVE)
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Sounds great.
But, though he's made appointments to its Board of Governors, the USPS Board of Governors is legally designed to be independent from the President, operating similarly to a private corporate board of directors.
And, for example -
California Voter Foundation
Here's what you need to know about ballot harvesting in California. (Yes, it's legal)
Kim Alexander, of the California Voter Foundation, explains just what ballot harvesting is. ABC 10, October 14, 2020
Excerpts: ...........
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The game has been on since O & Joe. (Some of us just didn't get that feeling that something might be amiss until its second full administration administration.
But, though he's made appointments to its Board of Governors, the USPS Board of Governors is legally designed to be independent from the President, operating similarly to a private corporate board of directors.
And, for example -
California Voter Foundation
Here's what you need to know about ballot harvesting in California. (Yes, it's legal)
Kim Alexander, of the California Voter Foundation, explains just what ballot harvesting is. ABC 10, October 14, 2020
Excerpts: ...........
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The game has been on since O & Joe. (Some of us just didn't get that feeling that something might be amiss until its second full administration administration.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM (NFX2v)
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Democratzis have about a zero percent chance of ever retaking the House if...
...California secedes or
...the Speaker of the House refuses to seat California "congress members" "elected" via mail-in "ballots"
...California secedes or
...the Speaker of the House refuses to seat California "congress members" "elected" via mail-in "ballots"
Posted by: Philip Nolan at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM (1kQia)
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I LOVE Haiti!
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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To succeed on any challenge materially, the states would have to show harm, and in doing so would also have to defend not providing proof of compliance with both statutes, which would defeat their initial challenge to the collection. This os only being held up because federal judges are corrupt and helping to delay the review until after the midterms, which btw caused harm to the citizens and republic by allowing irreversible fraud to occur.
Posted by: Vengeance
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Nice legal analysis. And correct I expect when the litigation is done.
Posted by: Vengeance
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Nice legal analysis. And correct I expect when the litigation is done.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (E4rtv)
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tubal, I have a box in town. A friend wanted to send me a package out here and I said no can do and had them send it to friend in town.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (5P5DO)
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In Kali, I go, on Election DAY, to the nearby polling place (not to be confused by the nearby poling places) and put my envelope with my ballot into their bag.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (l3cgK)
I used to do that as well until I started getting notices that I'd already voted and my vote on election day was invalid.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 10, 2026 02:40 PM (l3cgK)
I used to do that as well until I started getting notices that I'd already voted and my vote on election day was invalid.
Posted by: DitkaCA at June 10, 2026 03:10 PM (utChY)
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>> Look: Just secede already. You're agitating for it and I, for one, would love to be rid of you.
Nah, they took over a state that is part of the union. We should invade on horseback and start nailing people to telephone poles until everyone gets the message.
Nah, they took over a state that is part of the union. We should invade on horseback and start nailing people to telephone poles until everyone gets the message.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:10 PM (cn09p)
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Those unbelievably generous people paid for my wedding!!!
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at June 10, 2026 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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In Washington State, mail in ballots have a due by date, which is rigidly maintained for ballots coming in from the military, but which are remarkably flexible for everyone else. And, as we learned in the bogus election of 2004 (overseen by the same jackass running LA county election board now) the State makes damned sure the Received By date cannot possibly be met from most locations outside the country.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (BN9Gq)
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States' rights! States' rights! States' rights!
You don't have state's rights in a federal election.
You don't have state's rights in a federal election.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (Iitca)
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start nailing people to telephone poles until everyone gets the message.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:10 PM (cn09p)
This is going to be Monty Python day all day, isn't it.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:10 PM (cn09p)
This is going to be Monty Python day all day, isn't it.
Posted by: you see, it's not my cross at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (gKWVE)
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>> Nice legal analysis. And correct I expect when the litigation is done.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (E4rtv)
High praise from you, who is actually the smartest guy in the room.
I was going to cite cases, but I feared it would be too boring and people would start to throw rotten vegetables at me.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (E4rtv)
High praise from you, who is actually the smartest guy in the room.
I was going to cite cases, but I feared it would be too boring and people would start to throw rotten vegetables at me.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (cn09p)
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I got curious.
Erlanger is a Cincinnati burb, in fact the "Cincinnati" airport is actually on the same side of the river as Erlanger.
Amazon has a large distribution center there, right on the edge of the airport.
I'd bet that Erlanger real estate and taxes are much lower than in Cincinnati proper.
Erlanger is a Cincinnati burb, in fact the "Cincinnati" airport is actually on the same side of the river as Erlanger.
Amazon has a large distribution center there, right on the edge of the airport.
I'd bet that Erlanger real estate and taxes are much lower than in Cincinnati proper.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:12 PM (IG3/x)
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209 The USPS decided that I don't have a mailing address here at the farm.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Yeah, neither do we, but just across the highway they deliver to a bunch of roadside boxes. Apparently our little street is just too far.
UPS and FedEx find us just fine.
So we rent a mailbox about 10 miles up the road, and it isn't even USPS, but a satellite run by a private company.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Yeah, neither do we, but just across the highway they deliver to a bunch of roadside boxes. Apparently our little street is just too far.
UPS and FedEx find us just fine.
So we rent a mailbox about 10 miles up the road, and it isn't even USPS, but a satellite run by a private company.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:12 PM (bl07w)
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223 tubal, I have a box in town. A friend wanted to send me a package out here and I said no can do and had them send it to friend in town.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (5P5DO)
Smart move. Living off the grid? Nah, Uncle Sugar knows where you are when he’s gotta get paid, right?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:09 PM (5P5DO)
Smart move. Living off the grid? Nah, Uncle Sugar knows where you are when he’s gotta get paid, right?
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 03:12 PM (Gqar8)
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Good guess, but Amazon sends a lot of stuff for here through Erlanger. It's not a surprise to see packages coming from there per se, but flying it there from Anchorage only to fly it back TO Anchorage seems... suboptimal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (IG3/x)
One of the profs up at the local college sent a package to family in Austria where he was born, and the mail tried to send it twice to Australia. It happens.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:02 PM (IG3/x)
One of the profs up at the local college sent a package to family in Austria where he was born, and the mail tried to send it twice to Australia. It happens.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:12 PM (rbvCR)
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BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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Well that will drive Leftists nuts
Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (Ia/+0)
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"Where the Hell is Myanmar" was once heard on the sorting floor at the local SCF post office.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (rbvCR)
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I believe that I read that California as a nation would be the 5th largest economy in the world.
As badly as I would want to be shed of CA--and as much as I joke about it being another country, we can't lose that much commerce. That would leave a mark.
But, there is no guarantee that California could secede as a whole, especially since the people who have pushed for the "State of Jackson" as a portion of CA are barred mainly by the prohibition against making states from part of states.
I'm pretty sure that CA would be leaving limbs behind, so it's either a repressive secession--in which case the US can easily intervene--or they are going to be missing major swaths of land.
I believe that I read that California as a nation would be the 5th largest economy in the world.
As badly as I would want to be shed of CA--and as much as I joke about it being another country, we can't lose that much commerce. That would leave a mark.
But, there is no guarantee that California could secede as a whole, especially since the people who have pushed for the "State of Jackson" as a portion of CA are barred mainly by the prohibition against making states from part of states.
I'm pretty sure that CA would be leaving limbs behind, so it's either a repressive secession--in which case the US can easily intervene--or they are going to be missing major swaths of land.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (Fi81e)
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BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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And what a "mail-in ballot" means, too.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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And what a "mail-in ballot" means, too.
Posted by: mrp at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (rj6Yv)
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236 BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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Is it the last day of opinion releases?
Cause SCOTUS doesn't usually preannounce what's coming.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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Is it the last day of opinion releases?
Cause SCOTUS doesn't usually preannounce what's coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (6hlNa)
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Constitution demands that States have a republican form of government. Voter fraud removes that.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (8avO+)
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BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
IT's a TAX!
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
IT's a TAX!
Posted by: Compromised Roberts at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)
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Well I'm amazed anyone gets actual mail with how bad the postal service is in my neck of the woods. Used to be able to set your watch on delivery but now? Who the hell knows when they deliver? It's gotten terrible. And I hear people during work saying NJ is terrible as well. Good times. Shut. It. Down.
Posted by: turambar at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (Q0yOR)
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Not just them. Multimillions of idjits bought "The Secret". Because its cover was pretty.
Yeah the idea that bad things only happen to Christians if they have some secret sin or aren't pious enough is VERY common, sadly. Christian Science just cofidies it and goes into total apostasy rather than heresy
Yeah the idea that bad things only happen to Christians if they have some secret sin or aren't pious enough is VERY common, sadly. Christian Science just cofidies it and goes into total apostasy rather than heresy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (UZCuZ)
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BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM
So you're saying we should be prepared to drink heavily?
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM
So you're saying we should be prepared to drink heavily?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (bFu5X)
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> 209 The USPS decided that I don't have a mailing address here at the farm.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Well, then, obviously your place isn't part of the United States, nor your state, nor your city, and therefore you're not obligated to pay any taxes, right?
That argument is bound to work, right? Heh.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2026 03:06 PM (5P5DO)
Well, then, obviously your place isn't part of the United States, nor your state, nor your city, and therefore you're not obligated to pay any taxes, right?
That argument is bound to work, right? Heh.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (IG3/x)
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I hope Karmelo says what he said to Austin Metcalf "touch me and find out" in prison.
He's going to find out.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (OkYzo)
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Cause SCOTUS doesn't usually preannounce what's coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (6hlNa)
It's cute you think interns and staffers don't leak to the media.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (6hlNa)
It's cute you think interns and staffers don't leak to the media.
Posted by: Compromised Roberts at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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Meh. That actually worked out, so.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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249 It's cute you think interns and staffers don't leak to the media.
Posted by: Compromised Roberts at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's always a guessing game what opinions are getting released on release day.
But snark, I guess.
Posted by: Compromised Roberts at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's always a guessing game what opinions are getting released on release day.
But snark, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (6hlNa)
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Had a co-worker who has been to Haiti on missionary trips many times. He told us stories about always having your bribe money ready and be ready for ANYBODY to try to shake you down.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)
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Another lesson in what happens when the government takes the guns.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)
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Another lesson in what happens when the government takes the guns.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (cn09p)
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This happens, a lot. No idea why they can't remember that Alaska is AK and not AR, but apparently this is the caliber of postal employees.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)
When my Sis first moved to Alaska in the 80's she kept sending us letters with Alaska in the return address designated as "Sitka, ALA"
Because of course she would.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)
When my Sis first moved to Alaska in the 80's she kept sending us letters with Alaska in the return address designated as "Sitka, ALA"
Because of course she would.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (rbvCR)
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He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (OkYzo)
I wonder what prison they'll send him to.......
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (OkYzo)
I wonder what prison they'll send him to.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)
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Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
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So you're saying we should be prepared to drink heavily?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (bFu5X)
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23 Dem-lead states are about to have a major conniption fit, I think.
DJT's USPS EO release in not a coincidence.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (bFu5X)
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23 Dem-lead states are about to have a major conniption fit, I think.
DJT's USPS EO release in not a coincidence.
Posted by: mrp at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (rj6Yv)
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256
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Shelters for those experiencing homelessness.
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Shelters for those experiencing homelessness.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2026 03:17 PM (Gqar8)
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I wonder what prison they'll send him to.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM
I imagine they won't have in in general population. Probably solitary to keep him alive. For awhile anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM
I imagine they won't have in in general population. Probably solitary to keep him alive. For awhile anyway.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:17 PM (OkYzo)
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Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
The ones that didn't light on fire have dead batteries.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
The ones that didn't light on fire have dead batteries.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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Yeah the idea that bad things only happen to Christians if they have some secret sin or aren't pious enough is VERY common, sadly. Christian Science just cofidies it and goes into total apostasy rather than heresy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM
Do you have a moment for us to explain why you're really in the Empire of Morocco? Isslam, bro....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM
Do you have a moment for us to explain why you're really in the Empire of Morocco? Isslam, bro....
Posted by: Moorish Science at June 10, 2026 03:17 PM (bFu5X)
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At the end of the day, we just have to be rid of these States. However that has to happen, fine. If it absolutely has to be conquest - fine.
But I'd much rather break up the country.
And yeah, I know, I know, it will cause problems.
Why is divorce so expensive? Because it's worth it.
But I'd much rather break up the country.
And yeah, I know, I know, it will cause problems.
Why is divorce so expensive? Because it's worth it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 10, 2026 03:17 PM (BI5O2)
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States' rights! States' rights! States' rights!
You don't have state's rights in a federal election.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (Iitca)
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The governor and mayoral races are completely contained within a state.
And if you read in the Federalists, there is a beauty to the idea that states control their own elections for representation. That's one of the efficiencies of the Electoral College over a "national vote".
However, I strongly doubt there were any rights to the federal postal service enumerated.
They want to use a facility that does not belong to them.
You don't have state's rights in a federal election.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:11 PM (Iitca)
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The governor and mayoral races are completely contained within a state.
And if you read in the Federalists, there is a beauty to the idea that states control their own elections for representation. That's one of the efficiencies of the Electoral College over a "national vote".
However, I strongly doubt there were any rights to the federal postal service enumerated.
They want to use a facility that does not belong to them.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (Fi81e)
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Is it the last day of opinion releases?
Cause SCOTUS doesn't usually preannounce what's coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
This the current list of pending decisions as of last week that have to be decided by June 30th. The decisions are likely to come hot and heavy as there are over 20 some odd which is rare for this late in the term.
Link goes to wiki and the legal questions for each are included in the table.
https://tinyurl.com/y2tnb2m3
Cause SCOTUS doesn't usually preannounce what's coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
This the current list of pending decisions as of last week that have to be decided by June 30th. The decisions are likely to come hot and heavy as there are over 20 some odd which is rare for this late in the term.
Link goes to wiki and the legal questions for each are included in the table.
https://tinyurl.com/y2tnb2m3
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (E4rtv)
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There was a time that Jeff Bezos and Amazon would have taken that delivery over for free, but I'm guessing he doesn't roll that way anymore.
Votes not physically inspected by representatives of both parties shouldn't be counted. Period.
There was a time that Jeff Bezos and Amazon would have taken that delivery over for free, but I'm guessing he doesn't roll that way anymore.
Votes not physically inspected by representatives of both parties shouldn't be counted. Period.
Posted by: Auspex at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (Y8DZL)
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When my Sis first moved to Alaska in the 80's she kept sending us letters with Alaska in the return address designated as "Sitka, ALA"
Because of course she would.
There used to be different abbreviations for the states, until the 80s I think? I don't think Alaska was ever ALA though.
Because of course she would.
There used to be different abbreviations for the states, until the 80s I think? I don't think Alaska was ever ALA though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UZCuZ)
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First SCOTUS told us no fraud occurred so they couldn’t take the case. Then once it did, they said we didn’t have standing.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (cn09p)
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> Who the hell knows when they deliver?
Posted by: turambar at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (Q0yOR)
I looked into this, too. Apparently what with vacation, personal leave, sick leave, whatever... my "official" mailman in practice only works maybe three days a week, and every different substitute has his or her own idea of the most efficient travel route.
Friggin' Dominoes Pizza has a better delivery algorithm than USPS, and delivering stuff is literally the only business USPS is in.
Posted by: turambar at June 10, 2026 03:14 PM (Q0yOR)
I looked into this, too. Apparently what with vacation, personal leave, sick leave, whatever... my "official" mailman in practice only works maybe three days a week, and every different substitute has his or her own idea of the most efficient travel route.
Friggin' Dominoes Pizza has a better delivery algorithm than USPS, and delivering stuff is literally the only business USPS is in.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (IG3/x)
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I was going to cite cases, but I feared it would be too boring and people would start to throw rotten vegetables at me.
Posted by: Vengeance
__________
Not if you cite Haley vs. United States. We know that one.
Posted by: Vengeance
__________
Not if you cite Haley vs. United States. We know that one.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (XvL8K)
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Moar papaya boobs.
Posted by: wth at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UjdFS)
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It works out much better if:
1.) A Democrat state secedes first, and it's allowed to pass
2.) The other States get together and expel the Leftist ones
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 10, 2026 03:05 PM (BI5O2)
As long as we can repossess all the roads and bridges I paid for.
1.) A Democrat state secedes first, and it's allowed to pass
2.) The other States get together and expel the Leftist ones
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 10, 2026 03:05 PM (BI5O2)
As long as we can repossess all the roads and bridges I paid for.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 10, 2026 03:19 PM (8avO+)
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Our mail carrier is still driving clapped out postal vans built on early 2000's ford Explorer chassis. I hear the Sanford & Sons music every time I see it lumber to a halt outside our building.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (OkYzo)
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You know, maybe if voting was conducted the old fashioned way, at polling places people actually go to, this wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (pKv0r)
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Cardi B
@iamcardib
Wow! Just freakin wow! DISGUSTING… This [conviction and sentence of Karmelo] is not justice, this is trying to make an example!!!
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Disorderly conduct and 20 hours of public service would've been more than enough.
@iamcardib
Wow! Just freakin wow! DISGUSTING… This [conviction and sentence of Karmelo] is not justice, this is trying to make an example!!!
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Disorderly conduct and 20 hours of public service would've been more than enough.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (ndZc7)
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Well I'm amazed anyone gets actual mail with how bad the postal service is in my neck of the woods. Used to be able to set your watch on delivery but now? Who the hell knows when they deliver? It's gotten terrible. And I hear people during work saying NJ is terrible as well. Good times. Shut. It. Down.
Posted by: turambar
I've watched employees smoke weed before they go in to work.
Posted by: turambar
I've watched employees smoke weed before they go in to work.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (F8sQr)
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I hope Karmelo says what he said to Austin Metcalf "touch me and find out" in prison.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (OkYzo)
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And the "touching" is going to be more than he bargained for.
Unless he's a prison celebrity, that is.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM (OkYzo)
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And the "touching" is going to be more than he bargained for.
Unless he's a prison celebrity, that is.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (Fi81e)
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When my Sis first moved to Alaska in the 80's she kept sending us letters with Alaska in the return address designated as "Sitka, ALA"
Because of course she would.
There used to be different abbreviations for the states, until the 80s I think? I don't think Alaska was ever ALA though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UZCuZ)
No zip code? That's what the zip code is for to at least get the thing close.
Because of course she would.
There used to be different abbreviations for the states, until the 80s I think? I don't think Alaska was ever ALA though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UZCuZ)
No zip code? That's what the zip code is for to at least get the thing close.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (8avO+)
278
USPS has seven primary unions governing career and non-career employees under nine separate collective bargaining agreements.
UPS has one primary union (the International Brotherhood of Teamsters) representing its drivers, sorters, and package handlers.
FedEx has one union representing only its pilots, while its ground delivery drivers and package handlers operate in a non-union environment.
DHL workers in the U.S. are primarily represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
UPS has one primary union (the International Brotherhood of Teamsters) representing its drivers, sorters, and package handlers.
FedEx has one union representing only its pilots, while its ground delivery drivers and package handlers operate in a non-union environment.
DHL workers in the U.S. are primarily represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (NFX2v)
279
You know, maybe if voting was conducted the old fashioned way, at polling places people actually go to, this wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (pKv0r)
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It would also make a better case for states' rights.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (pKv0r)
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It would also make a better case for states' rights.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (Fi81e)
280
It's always a guessing game what opinions are getting released on release day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You would be correct in this case. I do think part of it is that the Dems on the court are dragging their feet like on the much delayed redistricting decision and I can see them doing that on multiple cases involving Trump currently on the docket like this election day decision. It is going to blow some holes in Democrat fraud strategy and probably will have broader application than just mail votes but include all votes instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You would be correct in this case. I do think part of it is that the Dems on the court are dragging their feet like on the much delayed redistricting decision and I can see them doing that on multiple cases involving Trump currently on the docket like this election day decision. It is going to blow some holes in Democrat fraud strategy and probably will have broader application than just mail votes but include all votes instead.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (E4rtv)
281
4 They can’t secede. Who would pay the taxes so they can be lazy leftists who don’t lift?
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I’d like to see it, then they’d drive themselves into penury, then we swoop back in to set them straight. Like a troublesome kid leaving home then begging to go back again.
Posted by: Brometheus at June 10, 2026 02:16 PM (dJMrS)
I’d like to see it, then they’d drive themselves into penury, then we swoop back in to set them straight. Like a troublesome kid leaving home then begging to go back again.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (pKv0r)
282
Had a co-worker who has been to Haiti on missionary trips many times. He told us stories about always having your bribe money ready and be ready for ANYBODY to try to shake you down.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)
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Another lesson in what happens when the government takes the guns.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM
Last time I was there, we were the ones with the guns.
Haiti is superficially pretty in the mountains and by the beaches, if you ignore the grinding poverty, corruption, and a populace that just doesn't seem to give a f@#k.
ESPECIALLY ... cops.
He's been arrested in Haiti about 3 times, and his phone call from the jail went to somebody ready to pay his ransom--because THAT is pretty much what it was.
They arrest you because you look like you have money on you, but the trouble REALLY comes when you DON'T. You'd better call somebody who has money, or you're going to be there a while.
But, other than that, it's got some resorts.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)
***
Another lesson in what happens when the government takes the guns.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2026 03:15 PM
Last time I was there, we were the ones with the guns.
Haiti is superficially pretty in the mountains and by the beaches, if you ignore the grinding poverty, corruption, and a populace that just doesn't seem to give a f@#k.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (bFu5X)
283
236 BTW RNC case opinion to be released tomorrow by SCOTUS on what Election Day means.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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There's no guarantee that opinion will be released tomorrow.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:13 PM (cn09p)
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There's no guarantee that opinion will be released tomorrow.
Posted by: WisRich at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (G0vdT)
284
@iamcardib
Wow! Just freakin wow! DISGUSTING… This [conviction and sentence of Karmelo] is not justice, this is trying to make an example!!!
Stupid AND racist. What a combo.
Dumb c*nt.
Wow! Just freakin wow! DISGUSTING… This [conviction and sentence of Karmelo] is not justice, this is trying to make an example!!!
Stupid AND racist. What a combo.
Dumb c*nt.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)
285
Look: Just secede already. You're agitating for it and I, for one, would love to be rid of you.
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Hmm. Open fire on Alcatraz?
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Hmm. Open fire on Alcatraz?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 10, 2026 03:22 PM (XeU6L)
286
> There used to be different abbreviations for the states, until the 80s I think? I don't think Alaska was ever ALA though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UZCuZ)
'63, according to Teh Intarweb. According to one source I found, Alaska never had an abbreviation under this system. Ohio was "O.", Massachusetts was "Mass.", and so on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (UZCuZ)
'63, according to Teh Intarweb. According to one source I found, Alaska never had an abbreviation under this system. Ohio was "O.", Massachusetts was "Mass.", and so on.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:22 PM (IG3/x)
287
I LOVE Haiti!
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM
When we were stationed in Cuba hillary and her foundation hinted that anyone in haiti that wanted to should come to the US any way they could. We had tens of thousands of them fleeing haiti in anything that floated trying to get to the US.
Both the Navy and the Coast Guard intercepted them at sea and brought them to GITMO where we made tent cities for them so we could process them. I do not remember the final count but it was over 10,000 and over 1,000 of them were HIV positive and eventually flown to the US without any precautions.
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at June 10, 2026 03:08 PM
When we were stationed in Cuba hillary and her foundation hinted that anyone in haiti that wanted to should come to the US any way they could. We had tens of thousands of them fleeing haiti in anything that floated trying to get to the US.
Both the Navy and the Coast Guard intercepted them at sea and brought them to GITMO where we made tent cities for them so we could process them. I do not remember the final count but it was over 10,000 and over 1,000 of them were HIV positive and eventually flown to the US without any precautions.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 10, 2026 03:22 PM (0N4FZ)
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No USPS? No prob. Universal drop boxes. Drop boxes everywhere. Curbside service, no questions asked. Four weeks to "cure" ballots. It's the American Way.
Posted by: mrp at June 10, 2026 03:22 PM (rj6Yv)
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256
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Biden likewise made USACE buy electric vehicles to work the various recreational sites near Fairbanks. Of course, because the vehicles wouldn't start when it was -60, that meant building a heated garage for them, and naturally, all electricity in Fairbanks comes from coal fired plants, so the net gain was? Fuck-all.
His policies also mandated that new buildings on military installations be entirely electric, no gas, no steam, no usual power sources, unless there was not enough electric power locally available. In that case, all new buildings had to leave room for full electrification when enough power did become available, so now we have a bunch of buildings with huge dance floors in the mechanical rooms that will never be used for anything, but which need to be heated and maintained.
Idiots, all of them.
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Biden likewise made USACE buy electric vehicles to work the various recreational sites near Fairbanks. Of course, because the vehicles wouldn't start when it was -60, that meant building a heated garage for them, and naturally, all electricity in Fairbanks comes from coal fired plants, so the net gain was? Fuck-all.
His policies also mandated that new buildings on military installations be entirely electric, no gas, no steam, no usual power sources, unless there was not enough electric power locally available. In that case, all new buildings had to leave room for full electrification when enough power did become available, so now we have a bunch of buildings with huge dance floors in the mechanical rooms that will never be used for anything, but which need to be heated and maintained.
Idiots, all of them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (bl07w)
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>>> 273 You know, maybe if voting was conducted the old fashioned way, at polling places people actually go to, this wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (pKv0r)
Crazy talk!!!
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM (pKv0r)
Crazy talk!!!
Posted by: leftists at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (R+iUD)
291
Stupid AND racist. What a combo.
Dumb c*nt.
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She seems confused about the meaning of 'Justice'.
Dumb c*nt.
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She seems confused about the meaning of 'Justice'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (XeU6L)
292
You know, maybe if voting was conducted the old fashioned way, at polling places people actually go to, this wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM
What heresy is this?!
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:20 PM
What heresy is this?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (bFu5X)
293
Just remember in just about every case ruled on by a federal judge where elections are involved, especially issues very clearly within VRA and NVRA jurisprudence, when they ruled against the administration they have ruled against well established precedents. They’ve done this because SCOTUS has at least given the appearance they are reluctant to make firm rulings based on established, well grounded constitutional principles and caselaw.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:24 PM (cn09p)
294
NOOD Persians.
Posted by: mikeski at June 10, 2026 03:24 PM (UGvY5)
295
First SCOTUS told us no fraud occurred so they couldn’t take the case. Then once it did, they said we didn’t have standing.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (cn09p)
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The SCOTUS started the chute that led to the Civil War, and they didn't repair what the broke, either.
It's why the Executive and the Legislative had to write 3 whole new amendments. And countless American citizens had to pay in blood and limbs.
The SCOTUS does not have a good road record on this.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:18 PM (cn09p)
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The SCOTUS started the chute that led to the Civil War, and they didn't repair what the broke, either.
It's why the Executive and the Legislative had to write 3 whole new amendments. And countless American citizens had to pay in blood and limbs.
The SCOTUS does not have a good road record on this.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2026 03:24 PM (Fi81e)
296
I love this EO. It'll get challenged but if the Fed's can withhold highway funds if a state doesn't raise their drinking age, they certainly hold a states mail-in ballots if they don't submit voter roles.
Posted by: WisRich at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (G0vdT)
297
>> There's no guarantee that opinion will be released tomorrow.
When it’s released, you owe me a beer.
When it’s released, you owe me a beer.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (cn09p)
298
It would also make a better case for states' rights.
Posted by: Axeman
States will never have the right nor should they of controlling federal office elections. Thus, the clauses under Article I of each house is the sole judge of election contests and the relevant clauses in Article II dealing with the selection of the president and election contests.
To do otherwise implies that the states are greater than the federal government which is explicitly repudiated on matters regarding how the federal government operates. That has been consistent principle since the Convention --state's rights end when it becomes the powers and functioning of the federal government. If states don't like that, they have to amend the Constitution itself.
Posted by: Axeman
States will never have the right nor should they of controlling federal office elections. Thus, the clauses under Article I of each house is the sole judge of election contests and the relevant clauses in Article II dealing with the selection of the president and election contests.
To do otherwise implies that the states are greater than the federal government which is explicitly repudiated on matters regarding how the federal government operates. That has been consistent principle since the Convention --state's rights end when it becomes the powers and functioning of the federal government. If states don't like that, they have to amend the Constitution itself.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (E4rtv)
299
>>> 289 256
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Biden likewise made USACE buy electric vehicles to work the various recreational sites near Fairbanks. Of course, because the vehicles wouldn't start when it was -60, that meant building a heated garage for them, and naturally, all electricity in Fairbanks comes from coal fired plants, so the net gain was? Fuck-all.
His policies also mandated that new buildings on military installations be entirely electric, no gas, no steam, no usual power sources, unless there was not enough electric power locally available. In that case, all new buildings had to leave room for full electrification when enough power did become available, so now we have a bunch of buildings with huge dance floors in the mechanical rooms that will never be used for anything, but which need to be heated and maintained.
Idiots, all of them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (bl07w)
I'll bet there were a lot of people getting a percentage of all that cash flowing around.
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
Biden likewise made USACE buy electric vehicles to work the various recreational sites near Fairbanks. Of course, because the vehicles wouldn't start when it was -60, that meant building a heated garage for them, and naturally, all electricity in Fairbanks comes from coal fired plants, so the net gain was? Fuck-all.
His policies also mandated that new buildings on military installations be entirely electric, no gas, no steam, no usual power sources, unless there was not enough electric power locally available. In that case, all new buildings had to leave room for full electrification when enough power did become available, so now we have a bunch of buildings with huge dance floors in the mechanical rooms that will never be used for anything, but which need to be heated and maintained.
Idiots, all of them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (bl07w)
I'll bet there were a lot of people getting a percentage of all that cash flowing around.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (R+iUD)
300
Maybe make voting, nationally, cost something. Like, you have to buy a ballot, or a one time use PIN for the machine. It'd be a little harder to fork over real money to bums on skid row when the money might go to drugs or booze.
If the Feds aren't going to deal with the state's internal shit then make voting for Federal office cost something. Include members of Congress in that.
One thing the Feds hate more than anything else is when the public rips them off. Fraudulent ballots that gin up no revenue will certainly get their attention.
If the Feds aren't going to deal with the state's internal shit then make voting for Federal office cost something. Include members of Congress in that.
One thing the Feds hate more than anything else is when the public rips them off. Fraudulent ballots that gin up no revenue will certainly get their attention.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (jehhT)
301
> No zip code? That's what the zip code is for to at least get the thing close.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (8avO+)
The two-letter state abbreviations entered use at the same time as zip codes.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 10, 2026 03:21 PM (8avO+)
The two-letter state abbreviations entered use at the same time as zip codes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (IG3/x)
302
Fine, maybe not a capital offense but 10-20 years prison for sure.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 10, 2026 03:25 PM (BN9Gq)
303
I hope Karmelo says what he said to Austin Metcalf "touch me and find out" in prison.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone
Oh, he's going to get touched.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone
Oh, he's going to get touched.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:26 PM (Iitca)
304
256
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
At least the company I invested in had a product that worked before loosing the bid and going under. The foundry I worked at would have made the main frame. F'ing huge mold.
Stupid idea anyway.
Whatever happened with all the Electric Postal vans Biden spent money on?
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 10, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)
At least the company I invested in had a product that worked before loosing the bid and going under. The foundry I worked at would have made the main frame. F'ing huge mold.
Stupid idea anyway.
Posted by: Reforger at June 10, 2026 03:26 PM (bHWR0)
305
She seems confused about the meaning of 'Justice'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (XeU6L)
Sad trombones also go "WAP WAP WAP"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 10, 2026 03:23 PM (XeU6L)
Sad trombones also go "WAP WAP WAP"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2026 03:26 PM (rbvCR)
306
Fine, maybe not a capital offense but 10-20 years prison for sure.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!
Capital offense. Fucking with an election is treason.
And treason demands the death penalty.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!
Capital offense. Fucking with an election is treason.
And treason demands the death penalty.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:27 PM (Iitca)
307
Congress dot gov
Voting by mail and absentee voting
pdf, 6 pages
election lab MIT edu
Reading suggested
Congress dot gov
Voting by mail and absentee voting
pdf, 6 pages
election lab MIT edu
Reading suggested
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 10, 2026 03:30 PM (NFX2v)
308
295 First SCOTUS told us no fraud occurred so they couldn’t take the case. Then once it did, they said we didn’t have standing.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Posted by: Vengeance
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That is not quite what happened in the 2020 case. When Scotus hears cases using the original jurisdiction between states, it has to hear the case just like a trial court. That almost always in the history of this Article III provision means appointing a special master to hear and collect information in a quasi judicial fact finding and then reporting it to the court to accept or reject the findings. The long lived river water litigation between Georgia, Alabama, and Florida is the typical case where a special master issued a report, but Scotus rejected the initial one and required the special master to reassess certain legal factors.
Typically, one state has never had the right to sue over the internal workings of another state (and Scotus clarified this again in the Florida suing NY (I think) over issuing CDLs to illegals.
Their records on electoral cases sucks and their ambiguity, vagueness and outright cowardice is directly responsible for our current mess.
I expect a lot of posturing and obscurity of the law.
Posted by: Vengeance
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That is not quite what happened in the 2020 case. When Scotus hears cases using the original jurisdiction between states, it has to hear the case just like a trial court. That almost always in the history of this Article III provision means appointing a special master to hear and collect information in a quasi judicial fact finding and then reporting it to the court to accept or reject the findings. The long lived river water litigation between Georgia, Alabama, and Florida is the typical case where a special master issued a report, but Scotus rejected the initial one and required the special master to reassess certain legal factors.
Typically, one state has never had the right to sue over the internal workings of another state (and Scotus clarified this again in the Florida suing NY (I think) over issuing CDLs to illegals.
Posted by: whig at June 10, 2026 03:30 PM (E4rtv)
309
>>>The USPS decided that I don't have a mailing address here at the farm.
Posted by: Ben Had
>In this one horse town, the USPS doesn't go door-to-door. There's one big box on in the middle of the street and everybody is assigned a numbered slot with a key. The mail delivery folks have to drive their own personal vehicles.
Posted by: Ben Had
>In this one horse town, the USPS doesn't go door-to-door. There's one big box on in the middle of the street and everybody is assigned a numbered slot with a key. The mail delivery folks have to drive their own personal vehicles.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 10, 2026 03:31 PM (SRceu)
310
But that didn't stop the USPS and the Federal Reserv being spun off as "independent agencies" with no direct congressional or executive oversight.
As I said, no one gives a shit about the Constitution nowadays.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (IG3/x)
The Federal Reserve has no Congressional oversight?
So why are its top officials confirmed by the Senate? Why do they testify before Congress? And why does the Federal Reserve exist because of a LAW passed by Congress that they can REPEAL?
As I said, no one gives a shit about the Constitution nowadays.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 10, 2026 02:28 PM (IG3/x)
The Federal Reserve has no Congressional oversight?
So why are its top officials confirmed by the Senate? Why do they testify before Congress? And why does the Federal Reserve exist because of a LAW passed by Congress that they can REPEAL?
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 10, 2026 03:32 PM (pKv0r)
311
The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is currently facing a severe financial crisis, with Postmaster General David Steiner warning Congress that the agency could run out of cash by early 2027 if it does not receive federal intervention. Congress is actively debating how to address the structural deficits.
The USPS is caught between its constitutional mandate to provide universal service to 170 million addresses, and a legal requirement to be self-funded. The agency has lost over $25 billion in the last three years and faces over $166 billion in unfunded pension and retiree health obligations.
The USPS is caught between its constitutional mandate to provide universal service to 170 million addresses, and a legal requirement to be self-funded. The agency has lost over $25 billion in the last three years and faces over $166 billion in unfunded pension and retiree health obligations.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 10, 2026 03:41 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 10, 2026 03:43 PM (wGerL)
313
303 I hope Karmelo says what he said to Austin Metcalf "touch me and find out" in prison.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone
Oh, he's going to get touched.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:26 PM (Iitca)
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Karmelo will go into prison as a tight end and come out as a wide receiver.
He's going to find out.
Posted by: Frank Barone
Oh, he's going to get touched.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2026 03:26 PM (Iitca)
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Karmelo will go into prison as a tight end and come out as a wide receiver.
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Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat