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Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:17 PM (Av6i5) 2
ALL my pets-- including the cockroaches-- voted for Raman.
Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:17 PM (Av6i5) 3
Wthout my knwledge.
Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:18 PM (Av6i5) 4
woohoo!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 08, 2026 07:18 PM (VyBeY) 5
>>>Supposedly an entrance to the underworld
I know, let's add a lightshow! The tickets will sell like hotcakes. --Typical Promoter Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2026 07:19 PM (syz1S) 6
Here comes Steyer, down 310K now to 250.5K.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 07:19 PM (W5mpo) 7
But seriously, Califnria is no longer a legitmate state.
Nte: They're going tosteal the Governor primary too. Pushing Steyer uppast Hilton, even though everyne hates sStayer and hehad no buzz and polled in the teens. I no longer recognize the legitimacy of my state government. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:19 PM (Av6i5) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2026 07:20 PM (Cqx++) 9
By their carrots in chili shall ye know them.
Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 07:20 PM (Fi81e) 10
>>>So I guess a cat isn't saying "I Love You" when he rubs against me.
More like a street gang tagging you. He's saying this one belongs to me. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2026 07:21 PM (syz1S) 11
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2026 07:21 PM (Ia/+0) 12
Steyer won't get 24,000 votes in a roll
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2026 07:22 PM (Ia/+0) 13
"This dog "voted" for Nithya Raman."
Typical. Posted by: zombie --- #1 Dogs never vote. #2 We are forbidding all dogcatchers within 200 yards of a polling station. Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 07:23 PM (Fi81e) 14
Yep, California needs warrants, door kicks, asset seizures, perp walks, plea agreements and lots of Federal prison time to clean up the elections.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 08, 2026 07:23 PM (YlWIZ) 15
In the top 15!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 08, 2026 07:24 PM (WONhk) 16
Outrageus, blantant, llaugh-in-your-face election fraud. Right out in the open.
I didn't think they would try it, as Prattand Tilton were "outside the margin of fraud." But no-- evnt hough theyWERE utside the margin of fraud, the Dem crrok who run the machinery of government just went ahead and did it anyway, even though y so doing they revealed the fraud, since it was statistically impossible. They don't care. They have a super-majority in the state assembly and senate, can pass anything and voter down anything they want, with no oppostion, and no debate. This is what is waxlike to live in the Sviet Unin. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:24 PM (Av6i5) 17
But seriously, Califnria is no longer a legitmate state.
Nte: They're going tosteal the Governor primary too. Pushing Steyer uppast Hilton, even though everyne hates sStayer and hehad no buzz and polled in the teens. I no longer recognize the legitimacy of my state government. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:19 PM (Av6i5) I did that with the unconstitutional jungle primary. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:24 PM (8avO+) Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2026 07:25 PM (gnNyN) 19
That bear got into some camper's beer cooler.
Posted by: They're out of control and alcoholics too at June 08, 2026 07:25 PM (TbWk/) 20
No more cave visits for me. I don't even like going into my basement. Most of the time when I have to go down there, it costs me money for some damn repairs. IOW, as tourist caves go, the price of the entrance ticket is VIP.
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 07:26 PM (Jr5Lq) 21
I once told my husband, after our first Golden, that I wanted to breed them. He looked worried for awhile and figured I'd forget by the time we retired.
I just remembered from the sweet video above. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 08, 2026 07:26 PM (WONhk) 22
There are lots of videos on what doggie and kitty do that mean something, the way they hold tails, rub up against you and other actions
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2026 07:26 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (O0L8i) 24
Any big companies in LA that can move out? Now would be a good time.
*waves at zombie*. I feel for you. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (u82oZ) 25
23
Her Majesty's suitcase arrived safely in Newark today. Without Her Majesty, who is at home. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (O0L8i) Let me guess, the only route home requires a stop somewhere else? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 08, 2026 07:28 PM (R+iUD) 26
10 >>>So I guess a cat isn't saying "I Love You" when he rubs against me.
More like a street gang tagging you. He's saying this one belongs to me. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2026 07:21 PM (syz1S) Becoming a lifer's prag. Posted by: Power dynamic is the same at June 08, 2026 07:28 PM (TbWk/) 27
>>> Posted by: Fading into Faggotry at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (zUc6A)
Oh look, retard followed us. Everyone say, "Hi retard!" Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 08, 2026 07:29 PM (R+iUD) 28
I once told my husband, after our first Golden, that I wanted to breed them. ___________ Don't. Just, don't. Take it from me. Don't. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:29 PM (O0L8i) 29
I assume cats rub on things to transfer their scent to it and mark it as their own. I do the same thing with items on a pot luck table that I don't have room for on my plate.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 08, 2026 07:30 PM (3uBP9) 30
Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (zUc6A) so we know why you are here Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:30 PM (8avO+) 31
25 Any big companies in LA that can move out? Now would be a good time.
Posted by: NaCly Dog Hundreds, if not thousands, of companies have already moved out, mostly relocated to Texas. The time to flee is now, because if Steyer gets in, he will collapse the economy entirely. and if Becerra gets in, the entire state will become North Mexico. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:30 PM (Av6i5) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:30 PM (dK+Kv) Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 08, 2026 07:31 PM (zUy5n) 34
Hilton is at 96% on Kalshi. He’s in.
It’s moot he has 0% chance in the general. I think the plan was to get Steyer in there but after the attention they got stealing the LA vote Dems figured whatever, let Hilton in. He’ll lose 60-40 anyway in November. Now they can say how dare you accuse us of cheating, look Hilton came in second. Posted by: Heroq at June 08, 2026 07:32 PM (/HZvU) 35
Tom tags me, not by rubbing on me, but by sneezing in my face. At the very instant I am finally falling asleep. Right into the eye socket. I'm now taking measures to prevent this, and the herd here is not happy about it.
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 07:32 PM (Jr5Lq) 36
Wth. I'm not elderly. Who is this clown?
Posted by: fd at June 08, 2026 07:32 PM (vFG9F) 37
I once told my husband, after our first Golden, that I wanted to breed them.
___________ Don't. Just, don't. Take it from me. Don't. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:29 PM (O0L8i) It's illegal in most states, except maybe Delaware. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:32 PM (dK+Kv) 38
80 years old today is 40 years old in 1986.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 07:33 PM (u82oZ) 39
I meant to do that!
Posted by: Back scratching bear at June 08, 2026 07:34 PM (Cqx++) 40
What fresh bitchery have we from Pelley the Concubine? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 07:34 PM (ixS3i) 41
Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity Hmmm. You seem nice. That’s an endearing comment. Please stay. Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 07:34 PM (7j79k) 42
A stalactite is an icicle-shaped mineral deposit, usually calcite or aragonite, hanging from the roof of a cavern, formed from the dripping of mineral-rich water.
Posted by: Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher at June 08, 2026 07:35 PM (wVcYX) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 07:36 PM (cW1mv) 44
BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2026 07:36 PM (77rzZ) 45
That’s an endearing comment. Please stay.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 07:34 PM (7j79k) Screw that. He needs to take his hacky sack and get off our lawn. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 08, 2026 07:36 PM (zYpTz) 46
A stalactite is an icicle-shaped mineral deposit, usually calcite or aragonite, hanging from the roof of a cavern, formed from the dripping of mineral-rich water.
Posted by: Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher at June 08, 2026 07:35 PM (wVcYX) It is called that because it 'mite' fall from there and kill you. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:36 PM (8avO+) 47
42 Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity Hmmm. You seem nice. That’s an endearing comment. Please stay. Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 07:34 PM (7j79k) Would you like some elderberry wine? Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2026 07:37 PM (LHPAg) 48
Axeman I just caught your followup earlier. Thanks. You often give me something to think about.
And when I'm not laughing I do like to think. Do I have anything substantive to add? Not really other than what you are saying puts paid to the silly "objections" before a word even leaves your mouth, hand or keyboard. If nobody exists then what is anyone even talking about when we argue about it? The argument in my opinion is self-nullifying. "I don't exist". *Who* doesn't exist??? "No one exists". *Who* again? And that's what's on top of the soil before we even get to a single root. Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 07:37 PM (vE0+H) Posted by: mnw at June 08, 2026 07:37 PM (RCjYY) 50
After 7:30 already.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:37 PM (zZu0s) 51
Wth. I'm not elderly. Who is this clown?
Posted by: fd at June 08, 2026 07:32 PM (vFG9F) doesn't seem to be one of the famous ones. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:37 PM (8avO+) 52
The mites go up and the tites go down.
Posted by: High school science teacher at June 08, 2026 07:38 PM (Cqx++) 53
35 Hilton is at 96% on Kalshi. He’s in.
It’s moot he has 0% chance in the general. I think the plan was to get Steyer in there but after the attention they got stealing the LA vote Dems figured whatever, let Hilton in. He’ll lose 60-40 anyway in November. Now they can say how dare you accuse us of cheating, look Hilton came in second. Posted by: Heroq I dunno, it really looks like they're trying to drag Steyer across the finish line. It'll be a much longer drag than for Raman, but the fake votes are on track to have him just barely catch Hilton at the last second. I hope you're right and they abandon the effort, but at this pint they're drunk on power and might just do it t rub our facrs in it. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:38 PM (Av6i5) 54
I love that security for President Trump is inconveniencing NYC basketball fans. Priceless.
California...that's third world. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (Sco7b) 55
Homely, scruffy dog should be named Rosco. Everybody knows Rosco.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (pSkMS) 56
Fading... We are to understand that detumescence is your lot in life. Got it! Go shake your limp linguini somewhere else. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (ixS3i) 57
Was the pupper exhausting a cat a scene from Piper's house, but with stunt doubles?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg) 58
Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity ---- The Villages! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (kpS4V) 59
Stalactites hold on tight so they don't fall off while stalagmites might make it to the top some day.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 07:40 PM (cW1mv) Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 08, 2026 07:40 PM (NFX2v) 61
I dunno, it really looks like they're trying to drag Steyer across the finish line. It'll be a much longer drag than for Raman, but the fake votes are on track to have him just barely catch Hilton at the last second.
I hope you're right and they abandon the effort, but at this pint they're drunk on power and might just do it t rub our facrs in it. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:38 PM (Av6i5) I won't even be disappointed. Smart racketeers know they have to not kill the cow to get milk from it. We no longer have smart racketeers. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:40 PM (8avO+) 62
How do you remember which is which?
stalactite stalagmite The 't' means it's on top and the 'g' means it's on the ground. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 08, 2026 07:40 PM (syz1S) 63
Used to be some decent writing and political insights here. I guess that's what happens when you get old and don't have any more original thoughts. Just poo poo jokes, the occasional impotent old man shaking his fist and shouting invectives act, and pet videos.
Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly. Posted by: Fading into Obscurity at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (zUc6A) Sir. Sir. Sir! You didnt mention big tits. https://sl.bing.net/eQwXXm1uGs0 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:41 PM (hiMNi) 64
I'd name the dog that voted for Raman "Fading into Obscurity"
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2026 07:41 PM (qx7Zg) 65
53 The mites go up and the tites go down.
Posted by: High school science teacher The way I learned it was: StalaCtites point down frm the Ceiling, while the stalaGmites point up from the Ground. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:42 PM (Av6i5) 66
Or “c” for ceiling, “g” for ground.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2026 07:43 PM (ZVgZ4) 67
Is Paul here?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2026 07:43 PM (cWLG3) 68
Butthurt former regulars do provide a lot of entertainment. If I ever became one and couldn't stay away for some weird ungodly reason (such as that my butt was hurt) , I would at least have people here laughing their ass off.
This Critical Webspace Theory stuff is pathetic. It's a blog running on 1998 software. AoS has always been MySpace for angry OCD old people. You're not exactly poking holes in String Theory, dude. Plus we know you're like one of maybe three possible sad cases. And that's at a push. Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 07:44 PM (vE0+H) 69
Finally read that Scott Pelley post. LoL!! What a sad, pathetic clown. There is a pic, that he posted, of him on his sail boat. It had a John Kerry vibe.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at June 08, 2026 07:44 PM (aaFFZ) 70
My trick for remembering the difference between a stalagmite from a stalactite is this:
“Stalagmites,” with a “g,” grow up from the bottom, or the “ground” of a cave. “Stalactites,” with a “c,” grow down from the top, or the “ceiling” of a cave. Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2026 07:44 PM (77rzZ) 71
Storms outside my windows are not casually watched
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2026 07:44 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (dK+Kv) Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (EIbjg) 74
Sheesh . .
You gotta lead with an "I've been a severe conservative all my life, but . . ." disclaimer. Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (gpQ8/) 75
new name and ID but continuing the same argument. Amateur.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (8avO+) 76
I guess I’m not the first one to come up with that.
Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (77rzZ) 77
Sheesh . .
You gotta lead with an "I've been a severe conservative all my life, but . . ." disclaimer. Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (gpQ8/) Temu trolls suck ass. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:46 PM (dK+Kv) 78
Lots of Scott Pelley's posting tonight.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at June 08, 2026 07:46 PM (aaFFZ) 79
new name and ID but continuing the same argument. Amateur.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:45 PM (8avO+) that means we have 60 commenters now, right? Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:47 PM (8avO+) 80
Report: Rep. Jeffries Drafts Affordability Agenda, Puts AOC in Charge of Health Care, Trans Dem in Charge of Caregiving Oh, Temu Obama and his gal pals (or gal-adjacent guy pals) will figure out "affordability" for us? A good start would be to shit can every one of his pals named to that effort. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 07:47 PM (ixS3i) 81
The joke's on THAT guy. Who here is over 29?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2026 07:47 PM (cWLG3) 82
Apparently cracker redneck just wanted to send a black man to prison!
Daily Mail @DailyMail Karmelo Anthony juror left open mouthed with shock at sight of Austin Metcalf's body, as killer teen's lawyers suggest victim impaled himself on knife Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 08, 2026 07:47 PM (ndZc7) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (O0L8i) 84
Hmmm, wait did we defend Trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (hiMNi) 85
54 I hope you're right and they abandon the effort, but at this pint they're drunk on power and might just do it t rub our facrs in it.
Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:38 PM (Av6i5 zombie, do you think TS would be willing to walk away after spending $100-200 million to be governor? I don’t see that. I agree w you that Steve Hilton probably cannot beat the cheat. Posted by: EveR at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (wTevN) 86
Most of my boomer energy is in the morning.
Posted by: fd at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (vFG9F) 87
Enjoy the circle jerk.
Posted by: Sorry But Its True "I like tio watch," said the impotent sissy unable to participate in the circle jerk. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (Av6i5) 88
Enjoy paying some hooker to peg you.
Posted by: mnw at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (RCjYY) 89
Must be someone from the Bush Family.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (O0L8i) Hmmm, someone was so king or actually chemjeff the other night. Not sure as he sounded suspiciously like qdpsteve when he got mad. chemjeff was a NT originally. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (hiMNi) 90
Hmmm, wait did we defend Trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (hiMNi) Trump was pretty much not mentioned at all. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (8avO+) 91
Posted by: Sorry But Its True at June 08, 2026 07:48 PM (13bda)
What's a matter? Mommy blamed you for why Daddy left? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (dK+Kv) 92
37 Wth. I'm not elderly. Who is this clown?
Posted by: fd ........................... Yeah! If I was elderly, I'd be able to pay senior rates at golf courses. Alas, that is not to be. Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at June 08, 2026 07:51 PM (aaFFZ) 93
Hmmm, wait did we defend Trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (hiMNi) Trump was pretty much not mentioned at all. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (8avO+) Retarded seminar caller, didn't even bother checking the post to see if the comments were apropos. We deserve better, damn it. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:51 PM (dK+Kv) 94
Trump was pretty much not mentioned at all.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (8avO+) Ask Bidens dog what he thinks of Trump. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:51 PM (hiMNi) 95
Like Sgt. Rock and Sgt. Fury combined.
Scott Pelley sobs when he argues he’s just like U.S. troops because both go to war to serve the country and might even be more important because “there is no democracy without journalism”… “Don’t care about the country? [CRYING] I’ve never worn the uniform, but I’ve been in combat for this country in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, been shot at. Spent nights in foxholes filling up with water in the desert. I’m not aware that the President of the United States has ever done any of those things for his country. Please correct me if I’m wrong. You become a journalist because you love the First Amendment. You become a journalist because you love the country. And while all the other descriptions that the President used about me might be applicable, not that one. [CRYING] There is no democracy without journalism. It can’t be done. And that is why I am a journalist.” - I guess the tears are the result PTSD. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 08, 2026 07:51 PM (ndZc7) 96
zombie, do you think TS would be willing to walk away after spending $100-200 million to be governor? I don’t see that. I agree w you that Steve Hilton probably cannot beat the cheat.
Posted by: EveR at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (wTevN) well finishing 1st or 2nd doesn't matter either way he goes to the general. Not sure its worth involving yourself in voter fraud. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:52 PM (8avO+) 97
What's a matter? Mommy blamed you for why Daddy left?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 07:50 PM (dK+Kv) Mommy is pissed because his four 'uncles' did not leave the money on the nightstand. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:52 PM (hiMNi) 98
Sir. Sir. Sir!
You didnt mention big tits. https://sl.bing.net/eQwXXm1uGs0 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:41 PM (hiMNi) Pneumatic, even! Golly!! Posted by: Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher at June 08, 2026 07:52 PM (wVcYX) 99
I spend most of my Boomer energy hanging onto the house I bought with some used gum wrappers and which will be burned down when I die, assuming I do. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 07:53 PM (O0L8i) 100
Pneumatic, even! Golly!!
Posted by: Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher at June 08, 2026 07:52 PM (wVcYX) Penny Lane. British. Sports Illustrated model evidently. No nudity I can find. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (hiMNi) Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (gpQ8/) 102
In case you hear the "Paxton's impeachment defense lawyer endorses Talarico!" story, here's the part they're leaving out:
Said lawyer is a lifelong Democrat. And said lawyer currently represents the muslim organization that just had their sharia city dreams shut down by Paxton. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (73/SM) 103
Don’t care about the country? [CRYING] I’ve never worn the uniform, but I’ve been in combat for this country in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, been shot at. Spent nights in foxholes filling up with water in the desert. I’m not aware that the President of the United States has ever done any of those things for his country. Please correct me if I’m wrong. You become a journalist because you love the First Amendment. You become a journalist because you love the country. And while all the other descriptions that the President used about me might be applicable, not that one. [CRYING] There is no democracy without journalism. It can’t be done. And that is why I am a journalist.”
- I guess the tears are the result PTSD. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 08, 2026 07:51 PM (ndZc7) journalism was coined in the 1970s supposedly. The founding fathers had no inkling of journalism. Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (8avO+) 104
"Circle jerk? Well now you're just picking on my hobbies."
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (gpQ8/) Remember the podcast where ace was trying to draw a metaphor about circle jerking to tin soldiers? I think maybe drugs were involved. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 07:55 PM (hiMNi) 105
Ask Bidens dog what he thinks of Trump.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone --- He's got some novel thoughts about the war, in general. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 07:56 PM (cW1mv) Posted by: fd at June 08, 2026 07:56 PM (vFG9F) 107
How can you tell it's early in election season?
All we get are the Temu Trolls and failed OF posters. If the Democrats, socialists, etc. are worried, the quality of the trolls increase. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2026 07:57 PM (qx7Zg) 108
I had a litter of nine Goldens escape and run through the neighborhood. It may require more energy than you have when retired. I always wanted a retirement home for old goldens.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 08, 2026 07:57 PM (7T8ei) 109
100 zombie, do you think TS would be willing to walk away after spending $100-200 million to be governor? I don’t see that. I agree w you that Steve Hilton probably cannot beat the cheat.
Posted by: EveR at June 08, 2026 07:49 PM (wTevN) well finishing 1st or 2nd doesn't matter either way he goes to the general. Not sure its worth involving yourself in voter fraud. Posted by: Oldcat They're trying to get Steyer in to 2nd place. Which is laughable, as he never polled above the teen percentages. He has zero charisma, no popular support, no fan base, low poll numbers, nom "buzz" whatever, is a perennial loser joke candidate -- and yet they are trying to push him over the topint the general election, even though it's patently absurd. I think they're worried -- understandably so -- that Becerra is so mentally retarded that he might flame out entirely i the general. So they're rigging things by making sure that the backup option (Steyer) is even worse. Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:57 PM (Av6i5) 110
I know math is frowned upon but . . .
Toddler + scissors + Benjamins = big trouble https://tinyurl.com/3t53xrcz Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 08, 2026 07:59 PM (ndZc7) 111
Is Pelley the Concubine suggesting that he is big, but it is the news media that got small? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 07:59 PM (ixS3i) 112
58 Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity ---- The Villages! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 08, 2026 07:39 PM (kpS4V) Not a place with a detumescence problem. Posted by: Overtumescence perhaps at June 08, 2026 08:00 PM (TbWk/) 113
Raman wins the pennant! Raman wins the pennant!
Posted by: High school science teacher at June 08, 2026 08:00 PM (Cqx++) 114
Good evening, Horde! For those who didn't see earlier today I've started a GiveSendGo to try to pull together resources to properly stabilize my housing situation, link in my nic. Thanks to the generous folk who have already contributed! That said I wish I'd known I can't touch it for a day or two while the GSG folks finish approving it...which sucks because I do not overnight in the car well...hoo boy.
Thanks again for generosity and forbearance. Now to cruise the links... Posted by: Brother Tim sez at June 08, 2026 08:01 PM (gMru9) 115
Lead down to about 209,000
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:02 PM (W5mpo) 116
All we get are the Temu Trolls and failed OF posters.
If the Democrats, socialists, etc. are worried, the quality of the trolls increase. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf ===== * dons tin foil hat * Whoever hands out the marching orders for the trolls, they have a chart where they map out potential benefit vs required effort. Theyve concluded we are probably a smaller audience, and we're going to be tough to persuade. So since we're in the high effort/low benefit quadrant, we don't merit quality trolls. Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:02 PM (gpQ8/) 117
Up to 212,500
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:03 PM (W5mpo) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:03 PM (u82oZ) 119
Have a good night everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2026 08:03 PM (Ia/+0) 120
What would be a high quality troll?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:03 PM (hiMNi) 121
In which Presidential debates did Pelley the Concubine go to bat for the Dims? I do recall him "moderating" at least one of them. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 08:04 PM (ixS3i) 122
The angel in St. Michael's Cave, Gibraltar. That is so neat!!
St. Michael’s caves connect a legendary network of spectacular limestone grottoes. While the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar is famous for its tourist destination, the name and historical lore trace directly back to the celebrated religious pilgrimage site in Apulia, Italy. 🇬🇧 St. Michael's Cave (Gibraltar, Spain)Located 300 meters above sea level within the Upper Rock Nature Reserve, this site is a massive natural wonder. It was famously used as a covert hiding spot by 500 Spanish troops in 1704. 🇮🇹 St. Michael's Caves (Italy)Italy features several significant caverns dedicated to the Archangel Michael, with the most famous acting as the namesake for the Gibraltar cave. Thanks, Ace. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 08, 2026 08:04 PM (NFX2v) 123
Swalwell still has a shot at 25,000
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:04 PM (W5mpo) 124
What would be a high quality troll? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone Moo-Moo. He was rolling in wealth, peasants! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 08:05 PM (ixS3i) 125
68 Butthurt former regulars do provide a lot of entertainment. If I ever became one and couldn't stay away for some weird ungodly reason (such as that my butt was hurt) , I would at least have people here laughing their ass off.
This Critical Webspace Theory stuff is pathetic. It's a blog running on 1998 software. AoS has always been MySpace for angry OCD old people. You're not exactly poking holes in String Theory, dude. Plus we know you're like one of maybe three possible sad cases. And that's at a push. Posted by: ... ====== Some folks cannot take rejection well and then spend their time brooding about their perceived injustices and wanting revenge. Unless you are the Count of Monte Cristo, it is a lousy way to live. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:06 PM (E4rtv) 126
79.3% of the ballots are counted. What the absolute numbers and how many remain to be manufactured, etc., I don't know.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:06 PM (W5mpo) 127
2009Refugee
The trolls certainly are persistent. It seems we have the same 5-6 deranged individuals posting, for years. Their tone is recognizable. No new blood or ideas. But us Morons, we are posting without nets. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:06 PM (u82oZ) Posted by: fd at June 08, 2026 08:06 PM (vFG9F) 129
109 I think they're worried -- understandably so -- that Becerra is so mentally retarded that he might flame out entirely i the general. So they're rigging things by making sure that the backup option (Steyer) is even worse.
Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:57 PM (Av6i5) Agree. Posted by: EveR at June 08, 2026 08:07 PM (wTevN) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:07 PM (hiMNi) 131
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A troll who knows more about painting than CBD, perhaps. More about technology than Pixie. Who follows the news more bclosely than Ace. Who knows more about tractor cauburetors than AOP. Posted by: mnw at June 08, 2026 08:07 PM (RCjYY) 132
Moo-Moo. He was rolling in wealth, peasants!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot ===== I expect he'll be back under a new guise before the 2026 elections and by sure before the 2028 ones. That is his obsession. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv) 133
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:08 PM (O0L8i) 134
What would be a high quality troll?
Posted by: Aetius451AD ===== I think they'd start with trying to find some form of common ground, and then exploit the opening, vs "listen up, assholes!" Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:09 PM (gpQ8/) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:10 PM (O0L8i) 136
Who knows more about tractor cauburetors than AOP.
Posted by: mnw No way is that possible! You could add Studebaker to the list also. The rest of your list is valid also. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:10 PM (u82oZ) 137
Roman Polanski would like word.
NYTimes: I can hear how much this has hurt you. Scott Pelley: Yes. It's like your spouse being murdered. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 08, 2026 08:10 PM (ndZc7) 138
* dons tin foil hat *
Whoever hands out the marching orders for the trolls, they have a chart where they map out potential benefit vs required effort. Theyve concluded we are probably a smaller audience, and we're going to be tough to persuade. So since we're in the high effort/low benefit quadrant, we don't merit quality trolls. Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:02 PM (gpQ8/) I tend to agree. If they get very nervous, where the cheat won't be enough, they need to get every vote they can, then we get quality attention. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2026 08:11 PM (qx7Zg) 139
What would be a high quality troll?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:03 PM (hiMNi) Leading with boobs. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:11 PM (dK+Kv) 140
120 What would be a high quality troll?
Posted by: Aetius451AD There are a few that can actually discuss issues but those disappeared long ago for a variety of reasons---Twitter or other social media had bigger platforms, political blogs are declining due to the hard work to keep one going financially and intellectually, and the short form posts, adopted ironically due to the troll that cut and pasted the whole comment chain, are not as appealing to make a reasoned argument. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:11 PM (E4rtv) 141
>>Puppy exhausts cat. ================ More like puppy exhausts himself while cat plays rope-a-dope. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2026 08:12 PM (n7rxJ) 142
2009Refugee
I'll bet, in our local friend's circle, we Morons are damn persuasive. Look at the high level of debate here. Well, not Bulg and boobs. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:13 PM (u82oZ) 143
I cut my first cabbage today, chopped it to shreds and I am currently salting it down to make sauerkraut!
Home garden cabbages have a light, crispy texture and flavor, unlike the grocery store "tough like linoleum" texture. Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2026 08:13 PM (rbvCR) 144
It's not getting fired from CBS that has Pelley the Concubine pissed off. It's that Bari Weiss slipped a tightly coiled elastic band around the base of his scrotum and his testicles withered away to nothing and fell off. Neutered like a young farm animal, he was! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 08:14 PM (ixS3i) 145
Been in but mostly out today. Any crow updates?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2026 08:14 PM (0sNs1) 146
The AP just anointed Ramen Noodles, in a patented stunning come from behind victory that is always won by the Democrat/ Socialist/Communist candidate, as the winner of the second slot in the LA mayoral race.
As as evidenced that this is the most secure election of all time It should be noted that California accepts as ID when registering to vote gym membership cards, employer ID cards, credit or debit card, prescription drug labels, and insurance cards. Oddly none of those regularly or ever, except the employer ID cards, include photos of the person presenting the document as ID. This sort of begs the question of how many of those can you run per hour off a laser printer? Rule one when stealing an elections is to drag out the first week as long as you can so you can get an accurate count of how many votes you have to come up with. Rule two apparently is to allow anything as ID when registering as long as it doesn't have a picture of the person presenting it. Rule 3 is to use mail-in ballots because they're very convenient when ballot seeding and harvesting or in an emergency discovering boxes of ballots 2 or 3 weeks in t o the vote counting. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 08, 2026 08:16 PM (glnUu) 147
It's that Bari Weiss slipped a tightly coiled elastic band around the base of his scrotum and his testicles withered away to nothing and fell off.
Neutered like a young farm animal, he was! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 08:14 PM There's a quicker way. Posted by: Ben Had's Kitchen Table at June 08, 2026 08:16 PM (0sNs1) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:18 PM (u82oZ) 149
Totally irrelevant but I've been binge watching YouTube channels by Hana and Ina--Korean sisters who defected from North Korea to China and have made their way to South Korea.
Their videos follow them on a trip to America. They absolutely love everything about America--including the freedom to eat as much food as they want. On a trip to Buccees they love the cute stuff for sale. They love the fact Americans can make and sell cute stuff simply because they want to and others can buy that cute stuff because they feel like it. Their delight in freedom is inspiring. Anyhow I find Ina and Hanna charming and inspiring. Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 08, 2026 08:18 PM (eK/rk) 150
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It's not getting fired from CBS that has Pelley the Concubine pissed off. It's that Bari Weiss slipped a tightly coiled elastic band around the base of his scrotum and his testicles withered away to nothing and fell off. Neutered like a young farm animal, he was! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot ====== Anchors was always a stupid term--the Brits used news readers which is exactly what they do. According to old CBS reporter types, Pelley was a PITA to work with and he often botched their carefully arranged stories with his own ham handed and ignorant 'contributions'. If I was CBS, figure just use an AI personality to intro stories by the reporters. The rest of the idiotic musing, ponderings, facial expressions, and overall intellectual vacuity that are modern anchors can then be dispensed with at a far lower cost. If you don't want to spend the money on AI, then get an irritating C3PO to serve as the interpreter droid. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:19 PM (E4rtv) 151
What would be a high quality troll?
Posted by: Aetius451AD There are a few that can actually discuss issues Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:11 PM The real Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT, falls into this category, although the many socks of her do not. She is, perhaps, the most socked regular we have. Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2026 08:20 PM (0sNs1) 152
Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
We need an exchange program to send Lib influencers to work a farm in North Korea. Good to see you posting. How are you doing? Still meeting tall barmaids? Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:21 PM (u82oZ) 153
"If you don't want to spend the money on AI, then get an irritating C3PO to serve as the interpreter droid.
Posted by: whig" Or... Posted by: Naked News at June 08, 2026 08:21 PM (vFG9F) 154
I'll bet, in our local friend's circle, we Morons are damn persuasive. Look at the high level of debate here.
Well, not Bulg and boobs. Posted by: NaCly Dog ======== My persuading days are over both professionally and among friends. Now, I am more like the crabby old guy stereotype yelling to get off my lawn and yelling at clouds. But I have to be coaxed or vexxed enough into discussing anything political nowadays in social settings--ain't worth it. Paul Simon said it best, "A Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:23 PM (E4rtv) 155
Pelley was a PITA to work with and he often botched their carefully arranged stories with his own ham handed and ignorant 'contributions'.
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:19 PM (E4rtv) True story*: The Die Hard reporter, Harvey Johnson was based on Scott Pelley. * In the spirit of Scott Pelley, this story was made up. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:23 PM (dK+Kv) 156
Naked News
The Left would just put a woke blimp with a ring through her nose and coral snake hair color. And folds of fat to make it SFW. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:23 PM (u82oZ) 157
They could replace all these anchors with AI replacements. Gorgeous pouting blue-eyed brunettes with sultry voices and heaving bosoms. Could help the ratings. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:24 PM (O0L8i) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:25 PM (u82oZ) 159
Or...
Posted by: Naked News ======= Heh. Until you realized that the infotainment folks would put nude troons as the news readers. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:25 PM (E4rtv) 160
Just under 212,000 lead with 81.1% of expected vote
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:26 PM (W5mpo) 161
vs "listen up, assholes!"
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:09 PM To be fair, it does have 3,000 years of tradition to support it. Posted by: Staff Sergeants and PO1s everywhere at June 08, 2026 08:26 PM (0sNs1) 162
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)
He's been back and mostly behaved. I'm easy - I like his contributions when he's not trolling, but he's a nasty little troll when he wants to be. Really nasty. Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:26 PM (vE0+H) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 08:27 PM (cW1mv) 164
>>>ace criticizes popular, successful conservative media figures that don't align with his views on Israel.
And there it is. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:27 PM (dK+Kv) 165
"The real Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT, falls into this category, although the many socks of her do not."
Would someone provide the real, authoritative explanation of MCoBVt? Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:27 PM (W5mpo) 166
Paul Simon said it best, "A Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."
Posted by: whig ===== Ditto. About the only statement I'll make is "would you be willing to apply the security measures for mail-in ballots to your social security check?" Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:27 PM (gpQ8/) 167
LOL - Israel. There it is. Think we're down to two possibilities now.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:28 PM (vE0+H) 168
Why do we bother both posting flounder? I haven't figured that out.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:29 PM (vE0+H) 169
If you dig a hole in the desert does it normally fill up with water?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2026 08:29 PM (Cqx++) 170
"If you don't want to spend the money on AI, then get an irritating C3PO to serve as the interpreter droid.
Posted by: whig" Or... Posted by: Naked News at June 08, 2026 08:21 PM Or ... Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at June 08, 2026 08:29 PM (0sNs1) 171
Why do we bother both posting flounder? I haven't figured that out.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:29 PM (vE0+H) We need a time clock, where we pass and exchange shift turnovers. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:30 PM (dK+Kv) 172
victim impaled himself on knife
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks "My client slipped, your honor; right on Paolo's dick. Her husband just caught her trying to wriggle herself off. Clearly he was mentally unwell when he broke down and ran away and even locked the bank accounts instead of trying to help" Posted by: gKWVE at June 08, 2026 08:30 PM (gKWVE) 173
Jupiter and Venus conjunction tonight. And, just as the forecasts were predicted, cloudy as hell here. Anyway, right after sunset, look to the west, and see Venus close to Jupiter. Two bright lights, can't miss it. If you've got a clean unobstructed view of the horizon, you may see Mercury there below just above the horizon. Believe it or not, there will be UFO reports over this. Venus alone does this when it gets bright, and conjunctions with Venus even more. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 08, 2026 08:30 PM (w6EFb) 174
Paul Simon said it best, "A Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Posted by: whig The he gets knocked out in the ring. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2026 08:30 PM (Cqx++) 175
Hand Salute. I respect that. Lots of minefields out there. Posted by: NaCly Dog ======= I dealt with that professionally being the rare conservative in academia for years. Any semblance of 'truth' got drained from academia about the time I entered it. So I heard leftists takes everywhere--students, deans, faculty, admin workers, and the more rarefied the credential, the more foolish talk was spouted. And I left working in politics behind because of the same situation. Even at the local level, the degree of stubborn ignoramuses impervious to new ideas and knowledge, those that speak and act by cant, and the sociopathic slimeballs that pervade our politics soured me on almost all of them. I support the good local politicians but my experience overwhelmingly in state and federal election work is negative. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:31 PM (E4rtv) 176
The he gets knocked out in the ring.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. That is an apt addition. But unfortunately instant karma is relatively rare--usually it takes a lot of reality thumping someone before they either submit to the truth (while still believing otherwise) or they actually adopt it. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:32 PM (E4rtv) 177
Or ...
Posted by: Jar Jar Binks ====== BET is a natural fit for that. Or MSNOW could use him to replace Al Sharpton on that show. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:33 PM (E4rtv) 178
Yay! Swalwell topped 25,000 votes!
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 08:34 PM (W5mpo) 179
Believe it or not, there will be UFO reports over this. Venus alone does this when it gets bright, and conjunctions with Venus even more.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 08, 2026 08:30 PM (w6EFb) ---- That's exactly what the Men in Black told me! Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2026 08:34 PM (gnNyN) 180
And there it is.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:27 PM (dK+Kv) A Candy stan? I am trying to think of who we had who was a Candice or Tucker Homer. It would be really sad if he was a Rick Wilson or David French fan. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:34 PM (hiMNi) 181
Mary Clogginstein is a bedraggled and ill-used trope of a shallow thinking statist. Her ability to be even mildly amusing is long past its expiration date. I miss Jose Canseco far more than I ever would miss her. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 08, 2026 08:34 PM (ixS3i) 182
Why do we bother both posting flounder? I haven't figured that out.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:29 PM (vE0+H) It's better than posting Bass on a Pike? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2026 08:35 PM (qx7Zg) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:35 PM (u82oZ) 184
I no longer recognize the legitimacy of my state government.
Posted by: zombie at June 08, 2026 07:19 PM (Av6i5) === They no longer bother to claim it. Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 08, 2026 08:35 PM (RIvkX) 185
It would be really sad if he was a Rick Wilson or David French fan.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:34 PM (hiMNi) Who was it that was trying to push the notion that Nick Fuentes or Tucker was such a large presence in MAGA that Trump couldn't possibly dismiss them without fracturing MAGA. About 4-6 months ago when that op got started. That's your Temu troll. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:36 PM (dK+Kv) 186
Ralphy really barked at a couple and there dog going by. I'm always right with him when he's in the front yard.
It was a very big bark considering how much I carry him around the house. I'm going to try to get a lot done before bed. Snowflake should be in later. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (Sco7b) 187
And I left working in politics behind because of the same situation. Even at the local level, the degree of stubborn ignoramuses impervious to new ideas and knowledge, those that speak and act by cant, and the sociopathic slimeballs that pervade our politics soured me on almost all of them. ____________ Has it not always been thus? Except now we've begun to notice. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (O0L8i) 188
About 4-6 months ago when that op got started.
That's your Temu troll. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:36 PM (dK+Kv) Nah, that wasn't Burt was it? He always seemed more just quarelous. But I did miss the thread where he got hammered. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (hiMNi) 189
DNC,
President Obama Encourages Americans To Make A Plan To Vote, October 13, 2020 "Barack Obama is urging Americans in 24 key states to vote in his latest foray into the 2020 election, stressing in new digital videos released by the Democratic National Committee on Tuesday the need for voters to make plans for casting their ballots. The videos, which feature the former president saying there is ‘so much at stake in this election,’ will be used digitally by the Democratic committee, including by statewide campaigns, state parties and other allied progressive groups.” It worked. Now it's the Go To. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (NFX2v) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (cW1mv) 191
He's been back and mostly behaved. I'm easy - I like his contributions when he's not trolling, but he's a nasty little troll when he wants to be. Really nasty.
Posted by: ... ======== It's a cycle--he shows his true colors at election time for whatever pointless reason--ends up arguing with the management and then voila--new nic. The longer people comment here though, the more they recognize inescapable resemblance to the old banned nics in short order. I am sure I am recognizable in the same way regardless of what I post under. But I think the core of it is unhappiness with their particular life for some reason(s) and alienation from others, yet desperately wanting to be a part of something and to be valued. Lot of accomplished people here or lurking and that makes it harder on the wannabes to shine. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (O0L8i) 193
Califnria is no longer a legitmate state. Posted by: zombie =============== Here's my dismalest take on California, where I also live. I'm not sure why Cali bothers with vote fraud. The voters here really are idiots. I think it's possible that LA really did split its votes between Raman and Bass because look at the numbers: 15% of registered voters in LA are Republican. Trump's approval is -55% in LA. How would that add up to a genuine 2nd-place finish for Pratt? HOWEVER, the timing is insanely suspicious. Pratt starts off at a strong second and finishes at a distant third??? But really, coastal Californians are so stupid and brainwashed I think Democrat governance is "real," in a sense. Voter fraud isn't even necessary in this state. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (n7rxJ) 194
Still, by looking at what the troll wants to stop, we see what they fear. Civility, for Paul.
Numbers aren't everything. We have an above average community here, and it is ongoing. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (u82oZ) 195
Numbers aren't everything. We have an above average community here, and it is ongoing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (u82oZ) Poor piper. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:41 PM (hiMNi) 196
Has it not always been thus? Except now we've begun to notice.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (O0L8i) It has always been thus. Social media made it more apparent, Trump ripped off a lot of masks, and Trump gave us permission to throw off the controlled opposition's sacred norms and actually fight back, instead of losing with dignity, while not GAF about offending the pearl clutching RINOs. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:41 PM (dK+Kv) 197
Nah, that wasn't Burt was it? He always seemed more just quarelous. But I did miss the thread where he got hammered.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:38 PM (hiMNi) He wasn't the guy I was thinking of. Burt was fine if not tinged with reflexively contrary streak. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:43 PM (dK+Kv) 198
It's a cycle--he shows his true colors at election time for whatever pointless reason--ends up arguing with the management and then voila--new nic. The longer people comment here though, the more they recognize inescapable resemblance to the old banned nics in short order. I am sure I am recognizable in the same way regardless of what I post under.
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv) --- Writing style is as distinctive and unique as a fingerprint. Trolls don't understand this, so no matter what nic or hash they comment under, sooner or later their true self will emerge. It's easy to spot them when they rear their ugly head. I honestly pity them. Their lives are so devoid of meaning they feel compelled to comment nasty things here simply to make the rest of us as miserable as they are. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2026 08:43 PM (gnNyN) 199
whig
Your comments are unmistakably yours. Enjoyed them immensely over the years. Learned a lot. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:44 PM (u82oZ) 200
Has it not always been thus? Except now we've begun to notice.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh Actually not always--our political institutions used to be more solid, in part, because serious people with good educations worked there. Once the Cold War ended and generations shifted, you get the double whammy of declining religiousity in the American people, endless outsider grifters after 1968, corporations that turned into amoral global institutions that hollowed out towns, dispensed with loyal workers, and always went for the cheapest labor they could get, and the precipitate decline in moral behavior. The whole last 60 years or so of American decline was a choice--we chose to believe pretty little lies, had our compassion used in order to steal and grift from us, and our desire for fair play turned into rules for us but not for the left. These Trump years are our pivot and resemble the sequels to Advise and Consent, that Allan Drury wrote. One was a commie prezzie like Biden actually, but the other alternative ending book was akin to salvation by returning to the truth and worthiness of this nation. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:46 PM (E4rtv) 201
Trout are still biting. Family concerns met. Bills paid, appointments settled. Going to the cabin to enjoy the moist heat. Posted by: Auspex at June 08, 2026 08:47 PM (Y8DZL) 202
What's even funnier is that you're actually forgotten. Try coming back under a variation of your handle next time. No one is actually listening to you - which is what you want.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:47 PM (vE0+H) 203
Completely OT: what the hell is up with Mike Lee and the Mormons on X over the weekend into today?
Is their temple pushing a huge gaslighting campaign on Christians? Posted by: redbanzai at June 08, 2026 08:48 PM (7BGrD) 204
They couldn't get Hilton because the entire Eastern CA is Red. It would be impossible to create enough votes to push him to 3rd.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 08:48 PM (GseMx) 205
All trolls are Scogg Dogg. Just forget about Average Joe. Scoggy is your troll!
Posted by: Will Robinson at June 08, 2026 08:48 PM (zBgIx) 206
"Rapper's" rental home destroyed Reno-style by LE and SWAT, who have a giant hardon for that dipshit:
youtube.com/watch?v=MKsxbQt3QP0 (Elderly boomer reference to Janet Reno.) Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 08:49 PM (Jr5Lq) 207
lol, troll got smoked.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:49 PM (dK+Kv) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:49 PM (u82oZ) 209
Revoke CA statehood. For, among other things, violating Article IV, Section IV of the Constitution:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.” Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (T6aVk) 210
Revoke CA statehood. For, among other things, violating Article IV, Section IV of the Constitution:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.” Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (T6aVk) 211
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:43 PM (dK+Kv)
Yeah, I can't think of one right now. We usually do not have that many regulars get ban hammered. Must be because we all think in lockstep. Harry Paratestes? He never ever struck me as trollish- just soaking in a liberal area. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (hiMNi) 212
Numbers aren't everything. We have an above average community here, and it is ongoing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog ======== The numbers never are all that which is what a lot of people don't get. De Tocqueville noted one of the strengths of America was its civil society where groups formed almost as if by magic and then persevered to improve the country. This blog is an example and people like Ben Had and Ace form to build something greater than the individual parts of us commenters. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (E4rtv) 213
Sorry about that. Did not mean to double post…
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (T6aVk) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:51 PM (u82oZ) 215
When life gives you pants. Sh*t them. Posted by: Joe Biden at June 08, 2026 08:51 PM (0sNs1) 216
>>>declining religiousity in the American people, endless outsider grifters after 1968
--- SCOTUS decisions (early 60's too), a lot of Russian money and infiltrators. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 08:51 PM (cW1mv) 217
Harry Paratestes? He never ever struck me as trollish- just soaking in a liberal area.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (hiMNi) Nah, he was rational, but as you say, had some liberal infused takes. He didn't get banned, did he? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (dK+Kv) 218
Harry Paratestes? He never ever struck me as trollish- just soaking in a liberal area.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:50 PM (hiMNi) He was just a wimp. Nothing meant shit to him and he was and is unwilling to defend anything and was enraged at thunder of us who do think there are things worth defending. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (T6aVk) 219
He didn't get banned, did he?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (dK+Kv) Nah, I think he got run off by people calling him an antisemite. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (hiMNi) 220
President Obama Encourages Americans To Make A Plan To Vote, October 13, 2020 Posted by: L - No nic =============== I remember that. "Make a plan." Except I almost feel like it was 2024. Can't remember what he said in '24, which evidently didn't work. Must have annoyed the hell out of him to have to set his golf clubs down and fake up a little enthusiasm for that no-talent, no-effort Harris. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (n7rxJ) 221
Nah, I think he got run off by people calling him an antisemite.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (hiMNi) \ That's a shame. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:53 PM (dK+Kv) 222
Harry Paratestes? He never ever struck me as trollish- just soaking in a liberal area.
Posted by: Aetius451AD ------ Harry, for whatever reason, bad timing, contrariness, etc. started morphing into spouting the same lines that Massie, etc. are doing now with Muzzies. But he did it in the aftermath of 10/7 and Israel's grinding war against Gaza, Houthis, and other worthless pieces of shit terrorists in the Middle East. And whatabout commentary regarding Israel was not particularly appreciated by a fair chunk of commentators. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv) 223
So forgotten. That's very forgotten when people can't even guess you.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:53 PM (vE0+H) 224
I actually liked Harry. Seemed like a good dude seeking refuge in a blue as balls area.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (hiMNi) 225
There were only two regulars I can say I really disliked. Burt and Harry.
To be fair I'm sure I'm on somebody's list also. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (GseMx) 226
He was just a wimp. Nothing meant shit to him and he was and is unwilling to defend anything and was enraged at thunder of us who do think there are things worth defending. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:52 PM (T6aVk) “Those of us”. Not Thunder. Damn autocucumber. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (T6aVk) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (u82oZ) 228
And whatabout commentary regarding Israel was not particularly appreciated by a fair chunk of commentators.
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv) Yeah, his timing was sub par. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (dK+Kv) 229
To be fair I'm sure I'm on somebody's list also.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 08:54 PM (GseMx) *nods* Posted by: Psycho at June 08, 2026 08:55 PM (dK+Kv) 230
And whatabout commentary regarding Israel was not particularly appreciated by a fair chunk of commentators.
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv) And which i have said before is tiresome. The witch hunts for antisemites can get more than a bit tedious. Look, I am not saying it does not happen, but there should be daylight between being critical of Israeli policy and being candy Owen's. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:56 PM (hiMNi) 231
There are commentors I skim past.
I'll leave it at that. I'm sure some skim past my dumb comments as well. I'm okay with that. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 08:56 PM (0aYVJ) 232
Burt enjoyed stirring the shit pot.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2026 08:57 PM (wOO3z) 233
And which i have said before is tiresome. The witch hunts for antisemites can get more than a bit tedious. Look, I am not saying it does not happen, but there should be daylight between being critical of Israeli policy and being candy Owen's.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:56 PM (hiMNi) We can still hate on dentists, though, right? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:57 PM (dK+Kv) 234
I usually try to read all of them. Except for the Mary Clogenstein socks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:57 PM (hiMNi) 235
Sorry salty. I'm enjoying this. Catch up about it in another thread sometime.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2026 08:58 PM (vE0+H) 236
We can still hate on dentists, though, right?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 08:57 PM (dK+Kv) I like my dentist. He hires a lot of pretty blondes. You aren't talking about Y5, are you? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:58 PM (hiMNi) 237
Hawaiian Judge orders California to end ballot counting only when the count shows all Democrats made it to the general election in November.
The Judge warned all opponents to the Democrats do not file any court cases to overturn the "Most Scandal Free" election in California history. The Judge also said that "The People" have spoken and the Democrats must win to save the children.... Posted by: CNN Breaking News at June 08, 2026 08:59 PM (xvV4K) 238
I hope Pratt stands by his promise to leave CA . Or was it just Los Angeles?
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 08:59 PM (GseMx) 239
Ariana Grande and her boyfriend Ethan Slater have called it quits on their relationship after three years.
Grande, 32, and her Wicked costar Slater, 34, decided to go their separate ways after a significant amount of consideration and lengthy deliberation. The breakup – which happened several months ago is described as amicable, and they stress they are still friends. There is no word on whether Slater misses getting his donuts licked. Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at June 08, 2026 08:59 PM (0sNs1) 240
You aren't talking about Y5, are you?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 08:58 PM (hiMNi) Dunno. Was he Fuentes/Groyper aligned? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (dK+Kv) 241
Nah, Y5 was burt on steroids as far as stirring the pot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (hiMNi) 242
203 Completely OT: what the hell is up with Mike Lee and the Mormons on X over the weekend into today?
Is their temple pushing a huge gaslighting campaign on Christians? Posted by: redbanzai The new listings for DoW chaplains and faiths I think. Started a whole debate over what is Christian. The theological line depends on whether your sect adheres to the Nicean Creed (of which there are two parts) but in particular the triune lord. Then whether or not new much later additions to the Bible are to be permitted. Orthodoxy in Christianity (not the sect)) requires following the Nicean creeds and no new modern additions of books and prophets to sacred texts. Many groups calling themselves Christian do not. So who is correct is at issue? Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (u82oZ) 244
Dunno. Was he Fuentes/Groyper aligned?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (dK+Kv) Its hard to tell. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:01 PM (hiMNi) 245
BurtTC was another. Everything was a conspiracy, and freedom was and is free, and need never be fought for, as was the country. And he deeply hated the country.
If you disagreed with him in any of those points, he got very, very angry. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 09:01 PM (T6aVk) 246
Ariana Grande and her boyfriend Ethan Slater have called it quits on their relationship after three years.
--- Maybe he got tired of the clattering when they had sex. Sack of antlers. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 09:01 PM (0aYVJ) 247
Maybe he got tired of the clattering when they had sex.
Sack of antlers. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 09:01 PM (0aYVJ) I just had a mental movie of her having sex with ann Coulter and it sounded like escrima stick fighting. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:02 PM (hiMNi) 248
214 Cow Demon
Impressive. You beat Pixy's software to prevent double posting. Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 08:51 PM (u82oZ) Not skill. Blind dumb luck I assure you! Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 09:03 PM (T6aVk) 249
An elderly boomer contribution: for minor problems with regularity, Aldi's 'Appleton Farms Salami Collection' ($5.99/12 oz) is gentle, safe, and reliable.
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:03 PM (Jr5Lq) 250
Dunno. Was he Fuentes/Groyper aligned?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder No, just someone that liked to argue for the sake of arguing and he had tired talking points, quasi insults, that he pulled out on a regular basis. His main problem was he didn't listen to administrators when they warned him not to do certain things. You ain't the boss of me attitude to proprietors of establishments leads to consequences. From several that were banned but returned, a humble ask is usually granted. Even qdp steve for example. But some get banned again simply for failing to remember we are guests and guests don't get to demand anything. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:03 PM (E4rtv) 251
Its hard to tell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:01 PM (hiMNi) That is what the former guy's deal was. And that's what troll triggered in my memory with his whole long lead-in to "muh favorite groyper/Israel critic in getting dissed here" whine. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 09:03 PM (dK+Kv) 252
Orthodoxy in Christianity (not the sect)) requires following the Nicean creeds and no new modern additions of books and prophets to sacred texts. Many groups calling themselves Christian do not. So who is correct is at issue?
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv) I know that Mormon baptism is not accepted by the Catholic Church, because they are not baptized according to the correct rubric, as dictated by Jesus in the Gospels. I likewise know that Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. That's a bit of an issue, I would think. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (bl07w) 253
Orthodoxy in Christianity (not the sect)) requires following the Nicean creeds and no new modern additions of books and prophets to sacred texts. Many groups calling themselves Christian do not. So who is correct is at issue?
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv) --- What's weird is that LDS was given their full title, whereas the various Protestant factions were sort of lumped together into confessional baskets. You'd think they'd be happy that instead of being "Christian - Mormon" they got a degree of specificity denied other denominations. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (ZOv7s) 254
I don't know the reason Mormon's were taken off the list to be military chaplains but I can understand why they're not happy about it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (GseMx) 255
I just had a mental movie of her having sex with ann Coulter and it sounded like escrima stick fighting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:02 PM The Paolo, he is, how you say, more of a caber man. Posted by: Paolo at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (0sNs1) Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2026 09:05 PM (u82oZ) 257
Scott Pelley got wet feet while fighting to save the USA while sitting in a foxhole while deployed. Almost like he was at the D-Day or Iwo Jima landings. Odds on the foxhole was a hot tub at a Hilton at some undisclosed, for security reasons, Middle Eastern location.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (glnUu) 258
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv)
It seems to go deeper than that whig. The way Mormons are listed (and the way Christians are listed) is not new but decades old. The only thing "new" is they removed a bunch of things like Wikken from the list that had been expanded by Obama to 220 some "religions". Mormons have never been listed under Christian faiths because they are not Christian and require their own chaplains. So what got their magic underwear in a twist NOW. Posted by: redbanzai at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (7BGrD) 259
I don't know the reason Mormon's were taken off the list to be military chaplains but I can understand why they're not happy about it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (GseMx) --- They weren't. They were included. Their gripe was that instead of being listed as "Christian - Methodist" or "Christian, Lutheran" they were listed as "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." You know, they name they demand everyone use. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (ZOv7s) 260
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
Thanks for the clarification . Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:08 PM (GseMx) 261
I hope Pratt stands by his promise to leave CA . Or was it just Los Angeles? Posted by: polynikes =============== Just Los Angeles. I hope he sticks around as a write-in candidate just for the sake of doing everything possible. I don't see why he'd stay in California, though. Sacramento is just LA City Hall much bigger. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2026 09:08 PM (n7rxJ) 262
Now this place is just a limited hang-out club for the elderly.
Posted by: Fading into Obscurity at June 08, 2026 07:27 PM (zUc6A) I resemble that remark..... Hello, Horde! 😊💕 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 08, 2026 09:09 PM (ZLP/c) 263
And which i have said before is tiresome. The witch hunts for antisemites can get more than a bit tedious. Look, I am not saying it does not happen, but there should be daylight between being critical of Israeli policy and being candy Owen's.
Posted by: Aetius451AD ====== Fair point but it gets muddy real fast when war is going on. People willing to listen to valid criticisms when no war is going on get a mite upset during after the atrocities of 10/7 and the lazy awful Euro take on it from fear of Muzzies there, that Israel probably deserved it. Someone criticizing US foreign policy during WWII was not very popular either--see Chaplinsky v. NH. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:09 PM (E4rtv) 264
I find most of you very interesting to read. Some of you don't even seem to be somebody-aligned. There is a whiff of that thing George Carlin complained about "when your identity is your ideology" that causes a distinct lack of discussion on some topics. The name-calling shit is really fucking boring.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (WtPCE) 265
254 I don't know the reason Mormon's were taken off the list to be military chaplains but I can understand why they're not happy about it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:04 PM (GseMx) I don't know why they are upset that they aren't lumped in with all Protestants, except that they like to pass themselves off as Christian up until they lure folks into their sect. Then they make it pretty clear that they believe an entirely different thing than the triune God, and that they have no "heaven" but only Planet Kobol, where men become Gods and women.... continue to serve men. Mormons are an esoteric sect based on a bastardized version of the Masonic sect and the ravings of John Smith. I don't know why they would want to be called Christian, at all. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (bl07w) 266
Flood negative.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 08, 2026 09:11 PM (x69Nb) 267
I resemble that remark.....
Hello, Horde! 😊💕 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 08, 2026 09:09 PM (ZLP/c) Elderly? Certainly not older than 29, dear. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:12 PM (bl07w) 268
Has anyone seen a pic of Ann Coulter sideways? I suspect she may be 2D, and her side profile would just disappear. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 08, 2026 09:12 PM (w6EFb) 269
[Mormons] upset that they aren't lumped in with all Protestants
_-_ When something is different enough it is useful to give it a new name - their theology qualifies as different enough to not be Protestant (or Catholic or Orthodox). Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:13 PM (WtPCE) 270
men become Gods and women.... continue to serve men.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (bl07w) Second look at Mormonism? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 09:13 PM (dK+Kv) 271
Reasons I try to avoid arguing with you guys:
1) I'm usually wrong. 2) You guys are smarter. 3) The name-calling and mockery and ad hominems. 4) It's not like anybody's mind will be changed. It ain't worth the tsuris. I'm mainly here for the laffs. Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:13 PM (Jr5Lq) 272
I will be doing a TeleRally LIVE at 5:30 P.M. EST for Senator Lindsey Graham and South Carolina Gubernatorial Candidate Pamela Evette — Both have my Complete and Total Endorsement. They will never let you down! Vote for Lindsey and Pam. They LOVE the great people of South Carolina, and so do I!!! President DJT
I expected Lindsey to be re-elected after I started seeing some pretty effective attack ads against businessman Mark Lynch, his only real opponent this go-around, who has a 1984 felony conviction for cocaine trafficking. So nothing really surprising there with Trump’s endorsement. Picking Evette (current Lt. Gov.) over Mace is probably going to send Nancy Mace straight to the political wilderness, though, as she has been running a dismal campaign against four candidates and she needed Trump’s endorsement to have a chance. Mace may turn into Marjorie Taylor Green next. Maybe she’ll do a podcast or show up on Fox or CNN. Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 08, 2026 09:14 PM (6ydKt) 273
257 Scott Pelley got wet feet while fighting to save the USA while sitting in a foxhole while deployed. Almost like he was at the D-Day or Iwo Jima landings. Odds on the foxhole was a hot tub at a Hilton at some undisclosed, for security reasons, Middle Eastern location.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (glnUu) When you look up "pussy" in the OED.... there's his photo. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:14 PM (bl07w) 274
It seems to go deeper than that whig. The way Mormons are listed (and the way Christians are listed) is not new but decades old. The only thing "new" is they removed a bunch of things like Wikken from the list that had been expanded by Obama to 220 some "religions". Mormons have never been listed under Christian faiths because they are not Christian and require their own chaplains. So what got their magic underwear in a twist NOW.
Posted by: redbanzai ========= I just mentally sighed. For the most part, discussing religion here is one of those topics that always ends up with hurt feelings, unpleasantry, bigotry as to what is the 'true' faith, and so on. Because leftist religion is largely politics, that makes them impervious to reasoning on key tenets of faith but once you get into the weeds on religious doctrines, you can piss off almost everyone on the right that is religiously observant. It becomes a matter of personal identity which is why tolerance as a doctrine was finally used to end the religious wars in Euro land. But also why the Muzzies have used that peace agreement in the world of Christianity against the West. You cannot tolerate an intolerable faith. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:14 PM (E4rtv) 275
I suspect she may be 2D, and her side profile would just disappear.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 08, 2026 09:12 PM This is about me, isn't it? Posted by: Brie Larson at June 08, 2026 09:15 PM (0sNs1) 276
HA!
"Keiko Fujimori, the likely next President of Peru, tells Colombian President Gustavo Petro—the former guerrilla fighter—to keep his “red nose” out of Peru’s affairs" The Fujimoris are baaaack!! Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:15 PM (GD0B3) 277
I don't know why they are upset that they aren't lumped in with all Protestants
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (bl07w) --- The Mormons teach that ALL Christians are wrong, which is why they came along. The Catholic Church in particular is evil. And yet, they want Catholics to recognize their baptisms as valid. I don't get it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:16 PM (ZOv7s) 278
Mormons have always been accepted as valid.
I thought DoW was going after cults and anti-life groups like the Wicca. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:16 PM (cW1mv) 279
Arguing over what is a Christian is a Marxist move. I wouldn’t trust anyone pushing that line. In fact, I wouldn’t trust anyone saying “what does __ really mean?”.
Candace is a one but you would need a lot of cut outs, especially a Vrbo. Posted by: Accomack at June 08, 2026 09:16 PM (sStKZ) 280
I never understood the people that come here to be a complete contrarian and fight with everyone.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2026 09:16 PM (wOO3z) 281
For the most part, discussing religion here is one of those topics that always ends up with hurt feelings, unpleasantry, bigotry as to what is the 'true' faith, and so on. ____________ I'm just a dumb pew-sitter who's got enough trouble staying off God's Naughty List. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 09:16 PM (O0L8i) 282
I say something that had the commie up by like .6 today (don't quote me.) Maybe Insty? Not sure.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:17 PM (zZu0s) 283
Do you ever feel invisible? Even when you’re helping someone, you’re still just not worth being acknowledged? You wave in their face and talk to them gently and tend to their wounds…. But you’re still just … nothing?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:17 PM (eelaG) 284
"Mormons have always been accepted as valid.
They has some fracases as they traveled west, IIRC. Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (Jr5Lq) 285
"A new State Department report accuses Iran, Russia and China of incorporating antisemitic narratives, threats and attacks into operations in both the physical and cyber domains."
Is this news to anybody? Y'all thought the sudden avalanche of antisemitism was organic ? Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (GD0B3) 286
...dumb pew-sitter who's got enough trouble staying off God's Naughty List.
_-_ I can certainly identify with that, HVII. Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (WtPCE) 287
So since we're in the high effort/low benefit quadrant, we don't merit quality trolls.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 08, 2026 08:02 PM (gpQ8/) --- So dis is why we can't have nice trolls? Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (Fi81e) 288
270 men become Gods and women.... continue to serve men.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (bl07w) Second look at Mormonism? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 08, 2026 09:13 PM (dK+Kv) I would suggest not. A good Catholic wife serves her husband, and her husband loves her, which means he serves her. No idea why they think SUBservience is required, but for Mormons, it is that way. A Catholic wife cannot be denied sex unless there is a serious reason to not do it. Likewise, there is no good reason for a Catholic wife to stay with an abusive husband. He is not allowed to remarry if he chooses divorce. He like wise cannot be in full communion if he chooses to divorce. IOW, be not an asshole, and you are good. Mormons can beat their wives with impunity. They can withhold sex, and money, and freedoms, and all sorts of things, and she has no recourse. Not a good look. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (bl07w) 289
I hope Keiko kicks Petro's ass!
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:19 PM (GD0B3) 290
Mace may turn into Marjorie Taylor Green next.
Maybe she’ll do a podcast or show up on Fox or CNN. Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 08, 2026 09:14 PM (6ydKt) --- I think Mace has hit her expiration date. She's a Strong Conservative Woman, but people are realizing that she destroyed male-only military academies, and at this late date, that's problematic. Gen X remembers that b.s. Gen X wants payback. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:19 PM (ZOv7s) 291
Yeah, Insty:
https://instapundit.com/802258/ “It put the left-wing Roberto Sánchez on a marginal lead of 50.3% of the vote, compared with the right-wing Keiko Fujimori on 49.7%." Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:19 PM (zZu0s) 292
And yet, they want Catholics to recognize their baptisms as valid. I don't get it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd ---- At least the Catholics and the Baptists don't recognize each other equally. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:20 PM (cW1mv) 293
267 I resemble that remark.....
Hello, Horde! 😊💕 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 08, 2026 09:09 PM (ZLP/c) Elderly? Certainly not older than 29, dear. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:12 PM (bl07w) For the last 36 years (and counting).... 😂😂😂 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 08, 2026 09:20 PM (ZLP/c) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (cW1mv) 295
I think Mace has hit her expiration date. She's a Strong Conservative Woman, but people are realizing that she destroyed male-only military academies,
=== she did? all by herself ?? Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (GD0B3) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (wOO3z) 297
283 Do you ever feel invisible? Even when you’re helping someone, you’re still just not worth being acknowledged? You wave in their face and talk to them gently and tend to their wounds…. But you’re still just … nothing?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:17 PM (eelaG) Sweetheart, neither DH nor I think you are nothing. You are cherished. People constantly mistreat nurses because they are miserable and they lash out. You know this. Your patience and caring mean everything to them, but they cannot rise above their misery. But you know better. And if you don't, I'm here to tell you that you should. All will be well, and all will be well, and all manner of things shall be well. Now, what can we do for you today? Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (bl07w) 298
I saw Hairy Parentheses open for Colon and Comma at the Punctuation West when you could still walk to the place without a poop map.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (glnUu) 299
I know that Mormon baptism is not accepted by the Catholic Church, because they are not baptized according to the correct rubric, as dictated by Jesus in the Gospels.
I likewise know that Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. That's a bit of an issue, I would think. Posted by: tcn in AK -------- I had to code religious beliefs in sects in a study about abortion legislation once upon a time. I learned there are plenty of controversial beliefs among sects scattered around. Church and religious history is a fascinating subject but in open forums, comments start degrading into my faith is better cuz rather than rational discussion. As far as accessibility, to me, Catholic theologians are probably the most careful of all but then again, a lot of sources in Orthodox or the more obscure ancient texts of Copts, etc. in the Middle East are much less accessible to me. Protestant theology is often a mess, in part due to the Age of Reason as they drifted away from Catholic theology. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv) 300
For the last 36 years (and counting).... 😂😂😂
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 08, 2026 09:20 PM (ZLP/c) Precisely! Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:22 PM (bl07w) 301
Mariners win!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:22 PM (eelaG) 302
Someone criticizing US foreign policy during WWII was not very popular either--see Chaplinsky v. NH.
Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:09 PM (E4rtv) H. L. Menken had a lot to say about the same issues during the WWI scares, where to paraphrase him, lots of German waiters were mobbed and destroyed because of their accents alone and not because of any action they ever considered taking. He did not comment during WWII because he had had his stroke and was not verbal. Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2026 09:22 PM (rbvCR) 303
He is not allowed to remarry if he chooses divorce. He like wise cannot be in full communion if he chooses to divorce.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:18 PM (bl07w) --- Correction: civil divorce does not bar one from communion. Remarriage while your spouse is alive, however, is impermissible. That bars you from the Eucharist. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:23 PM (ZOv7s) 304
Just looking, the entire continental US has basically entered the window of earliest sunrise times when rounded/truncated to the minute. It surprise me how far north Seattle is. They're only getting about 2 hrs of true astronomical night right now, and that will bottom out at ~1:45 on the solstice. And because of DST, astronomical night doesn't begin until after midnight there. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (w6EFb) 305
At least the Catholics and the Baptists don't recognize each other equally.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:20 PM (cW1mv) Baptist baptisms are considered valid in Catholicism. Baptists believe in the triune God, and baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Perfectly valid. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (bl07w) 306
283 Do you ever feel invisible? Even when you’re helping someone, you’re still just not worth being acknowledged? You wave in their face and talk to them gently and tend to their wounds…. But you’re still just … nothing?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:17 PM (eelaG) Story of my life. Expect for a few family and friends over the years. At least they taught me what love is. It’s not always bad being invisible. A lot more peace & quiet that way. Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (6ydKt) 307
Correction: civil divorce does not bar one from communion. Remarriage while your spouse is alive, however, is impermissible. That bars you from the Eucharist.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:23 PM (ZOv7s) Good point. I was not specific enough. Mea culpa. Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (bl07w) 308
Do you ever feel invisible? Even when you’re helping someone, you’re still just not worth being acknowledged? ____________ All the time. It doesn't bother me as much as it used to. I take satisfaction in doing my duty and, for once, living up to the standards set for me. Anything else is gravy. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (O0L8i) 309
They weren't. They were included. Their gripe was that instead of being listed as "Christian - Methodist" or "Christian, Lutheran" they were listed as "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints."
You know, they name they demand everyone use. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:06 PM (ZOv7s) --- Also, it practically, already doesn't fit in the column but now they want 11 characters added to it. Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:26 PM (Fi81e) 310
she did? all by herself ??
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:21 PM (GD0B3) --- First female Citadel grad. Wrote a book about it. Core part of her identity. I think VMI got crushed earlier in a lawsuit, but she's very big on how she broke the "glass ceiling." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:26 PM (ZOv7s) 311
Do you ever feel invisible? Even when you’re helping someone, you’re still just not worth being acknowledged? You wave in their face and talk to them gently and tend to their wounds…. But you’re still just … nothing?
Posted by: nurse ratched ======= The Lord is always with us, I learned that over and over again when starting anew. But I think smart phones have bred a society where their phone and access to it has become the sacred communion rather than a holy one. I limit screen time nowadays specifically to avoid that fate. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:26 PM (E4rtv) 312
Hey, Runner, to get you up to speed:
Presidential elections were held in Colombia on 31 May 2026. Incumbent president Gustavo Petro, elected in 2022, is constitutionally barred from seeking a second term. In the first round, right-wing candidate Abelardo de la Espriella led with 44% of the vote, followed by left-wing candidate Iván Cepeda with 41%. As none of the 13 candidates obtained at least 50% of the vote in the first round, a runoff will be held between the two on 21 June 2026. Cepeda is Petro's chosen successor, Espriella is the Conservative, though for Colombia that could mean "Bill Clinton, but Law and Order" because Colombia. Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2026 09:27 PM (rbvCR) 313
> Mace may turn into Marjorie Taylor Green next.
---------- Boerbet. She's been off the rails a bit lately. Her tryst with Massie and all. TBF, all the "MAGA chicks" who broke onto the scene years ago have more or less turned out to be nutters. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2026 09:27 PM (jehhT) 314
https://lichess.org/training
Couple years ago I got my score up to 2400+, but these days am stuck in the 2200-2300 range. I do maybe ten of these per day. Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:30 PM (Jr5Lq) 315
Sad to relate, most Republican women are either Susan Collins squishes or performative MTG nutters. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 09:30 PM (O0L8i) 316
Baptist baptisms are considered valid in Catholicism. Baptists believe in the triune God, and baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Perfectly valid.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:25 PM (bl07w) --- They both accept the Nicene Creed. LDS does not, and disparages those denominations that do. My middle kid's best friends were Mormon twins, and so in theory having them hang out with Catholics was a problem, but in true Old School American fashion, the topic never really came up. There was an awkward moment in high school where some other kid said Mormons aren't Christian, and one of her friends turned to her for reassurance and had to do the "technically...according to the Catholic Church, she's right. But we can still be friends!" Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (ZOv7s) 317
Boerbet. She's been off the rails a bit lately. Her tryst with Massie and all. TBF, all the "MAGA chicks" who broke onto the scene years ago have more or less turned out to be nutters.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2026 09:27 PM (jehhT) --- Did Massie rub off on her? Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (Fi81e) 318
There's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians. We fall for it every single time. Sure seems like a distraction from the business at hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (WtPCE) 319
I treat nurses with genuine gratitude, as I do all the healthcare workers who treat me.
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (Jr5Lq) 320
First female Citadel grad. Wrote a book about it. Core part of her identity. I think VMI got crushed earlier in a lawsuit, but she's very big on how she broke the "glass ceiling."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:26 PM (ZOv7s) She wrote a book about her experience. I don't think that qualifies as "destroying male-only military academies". Considering first women at West Point arrived in 1976. One year before Mace was born. Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (GD0B3) 321
"There's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians."
Our culture is sex-obsessed. Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:33 PM (Jr5Lq) 322
> Boerbet. She's been off the rails a bit lately. Her tryst with Massie and all. TBF, all the "MAGA chicks" who broke onto the scene years ago have more or less turned out to be nutters.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2026 09:27 PM (jehhT) --- Did Massie rub off on her? Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (Fi81e) ========= Apparently some of him rubbed off on her. YMMV Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2026 09:33 PM (jehhT) 323
I had the right question about Mike Lee and the Mormons.
Mike Lee is indeed up for re-election in 2026. The primary election for his Senate seat is scheduled for June 23, 2026 There's the hornets nest. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:34 PM (cW1mv) 324
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Sad to relate, most Republican women are either Susan Collins squishes or performative MTG nutters. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh ====== The solid ones, like Stefanik, you never hear about. Blame both the media and voters in some states for the squishes (Collins is representing a blue state for example-Kevin McCarthy was a squish for much the same reason despite representing a red district). Some become squishes to rise in leadership in the party, some because their real business is getting generational wealth, and others because the media flatters them. The performative arts types are people without an ideological compass that seize on riding whatever is popular at the time to get recognition or power. Look at how some of the Tea Party types, like Mike Pence, ended up. GOP voters and party are running more women and so like their male counterparts during surges, you get a lot of duds. Not really a sex based thing. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:35 PM (E4rtv) 325
318 There's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians. We fall for it every single time. Sure seems like a distraction from the business at hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (WtPCE) Congress has a secret slush fund to pay off all the people who complain about their sexual predations. I don't think it's us who are obsessed with their sex lives. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 08, 2026 09:36 PM (5NDL0) 326
She wrote a book about her experience. I don't think that qualifies as "destroying male-only military academies". Considering first women at West Point arrived in 1976. One year before Mace was born.
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (GD0B3) --- I shall be more specific. In a time when it is widely recognized that including gender and race in promotions has been disastrous to the US military, wrapping your identity around be the "first woman" anything in the military is politically problematic. Was she the best candidate or a diversity admission forced by political pressure? I'm frankly sick of "first" whatever. That's who she is. Not the best, some random first. Just like we had to have first female F-14 pilots, first female rangers, first female flag officers. Canada's highest military officer is a chick. Same for Australia. Enough already. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:36 PM (ZOv7s) 327
Wasn't Boebert always a bit nutty ? Sexual escapades , something like that ??
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:37 PM (GD0B3) 328
Did Massie rub off on her?
Posted by: Axeman ====== Supposedly Boebert got the full pine cone treatment from Massie if you believe Massie's former girlfriend. She was the immediate consolation after Massie's wife died. The GF came about a couple of months later. So rubbing off is a perfect metaphor for Boebert's behavior. Her previous exploits with a hard core Dem guy running a brewpub is another tell. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:38 PM (E4rtv) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 08, 2026 09:39 PM (cW1mv) 330
327 Wasn't Boebert always a bit nutty ? Sexual escapades , something like that ??
Posted by: runner ===== Pee Wee Herman act in a crowded theater with her boyfriend at the time. Who was a big time Democrat. Boebert was also seen at a ball game via pictures attending with Democrat governor Polis. Dumping their old husbands and families to go to DC is kind of a tell. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv) 331
There's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians. We fall for it every single time. Sure seems like a distraction from the business at hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (WtPCE) --- They were always horndogs, but did a better job of hiding it. Also, I think the level of depravity has escalated a lot. The old "caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy" thing, well, the live boys keep happening. Also dick picks. Completely undisciplined. Also: moral hypocrites. Same people berate Christians for supporting Trump and then are like "Yeah, so he's got Nazi tattoos, fantasizes about raping men and abuses women. Who is to judge?" Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (ZOv7s) 332
I'm frankly sick of "first" whatever. That's who she is. Not the best, some random first. Just like we had to have first female F-14 pilots, first female rangers, first female flag officers. Canada's highest military officer is a chick. Same for Australia. Enough already. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:36 PM (ZOv7s) _____________ Anything made routine by the effort and sacrifice of men becomes OMG!!! when done by a woman. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (O0L8i) 333
Our culture is sex-obsessed.
_-_ That's a fact. I kinda wonder why we can't manage to put some of these characters all in a room together and refuse to let them out until they agree on a way forward or do each other in. We hear all of this personality-related shit about MTG, Bobert, Massie, Trump, TuCa, and so forth instead of all of them arguing about how we can get rid of more illegal aliens this week than we did last week...or how about starting over with the intelligence agencies, eliminating the H1-B Visa program, auditing (or replacing) the Federal Reserve, or dramatically reducing government spending? Trump et. al. have been successful to a degree, but there is a LOT more to do. We don't have time for all the personal bullshit. Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (WtPCE) 334
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 08, 2026 09:10 PM (bl07w)
I just know they believe in John 3:16 and to me that makes them Christian. Anything else is just man made 'organized religion' babble which is present in all Christian faiths. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (GseMx) 335
Annullment: Obtaining an annulment (a declaration of nullity) proves the original marriage lacked an essential element from the beginning, essentially freeing you to marry in the Church and receive Communion.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 08, 2026 09:42 PM (NFX2v) 336
I don't believe that there is a quiz at the end, so I'm pretty confident to say that I suspect that some people with wrong doctrine will probably make it into Heaven.
So, I hope that the Lord shows grace on all Mormons he would choose to. Whether the wafer is transformed into Jesus body during communion is a separate thing and of different type from whether the God of Israel is eternal and sui generis, and "God" is a relationship to a world. The very nature of God is changed. Not just sacraments. Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:42 PM (Fi81e) 337
They are afraid of Stefanik.
Posted by: Braenyard ====== There are some other solid women in politics just like men. But, given the overall pool for candidates willing to do anything to get campaign funding, it tends to weed out a lot of serious politicians nowadays. Dumber and more ignorant populace votes in dumber and more ignorant politicians. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:42 PM (E4rtv) 338
Maybe less vitriol directed at Mormonism is in order.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 08, 2026 09:43 PM (iERP6) 339
here's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians. We fall for it every single time. Sure seems like a distraction from the business at hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:31 PM (WtPCE) --- Ma Ma Where's My Pa? ( great rejoinder) Gone to the White House . Ha Ha Ha. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:43 PM (GseMx) 340
@330 DC is an epicenter of debauchery!
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:43 PM (GD0B3) 341
I just know they believe in John 3:16 and to me that makes them Christian. Anything else is just man made 'organized religion' babble which is present in all Christian faiths.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (GseMx) --- However, that would make J3:16 essential doctrine. And a J3:16-central doctrine superior to a doctrine which qualifies and marginalizes J3:16. So there are better doctrines than others. There are superior scripture readings to others. Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:45 PM (Fi81e) 342
here's an obsession these days with the sexual activities of politicians. We fall for it every single time. Sure seems like a distraction from the business at hand.
Posted by: Don in SoCo Read up on Hamilton's affair with a woman married to a bond speculator when Hamilton was Sec. of Treasury. Gouvernor Morris who penned much of the actual wording of the US Constitution was another tomcat. Ben Franklin--all cats are gray in the dark, and so on. People are always human--power, sex, money get people into trouble in both ancient times and today. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv) 343
Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:45 PM (Fi81e)
I guess if you are talking an organized religion . But IMO if you believe Jesus was the Son of God and died for our sins then you are a Christian, organized religion or not. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:49 PM (GseMx) 344
I wonder if we have moderate Muslim lurkers?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:49 PM (zZu0s) 345
I personally know many Mormons who have made great neighbors and friends. When they tell me what they believe that John 3:16 means, it is clear to me that this is very different than what I believe to the extent that is useful to be called by another name - not vilified, just relabeled.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 08, 2026 09:49 PM (WtPCE) 346
I just know they believe in John 3:16 and to me that makes them Christian. Anything else is just man made 'organized religion' babble which is present in all Christian faiths.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:41 PM (GseMx) --- They believe God was once a man, and that if men follow their teachings, they too can become "exalted" and become gods. They believe Jesus is a created being. Like (as others have pointed out) the angels, such as Satan. As the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith found in 2001, Mormon Christology is not even a heresy, but is a completely different theology, and therefore their baptisms - while using the same words - meant very different things. This should be unremarkable from their perspective, because the believe that they alone are actual Christians, have have a particular venom for the Catholic Church, which (in their teaching) led all men away from God. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:50 PM (ZOv7s) 347
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:50 PM (ZOv7s)
Splinter and Log and all that good stuff. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:51 PM (GseMx) 348
Power and money's often just a way to get sex.
I mean look at the congress critters. If they were not in the halls of government, would they be able to pull so far above their heads? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:51 PM (zZu0s) 349
Serena Williams unretired herself. Back in Wimbledon. I wonder how far she will get.
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:52 PM (GD0B3) 350
Power and money's often just a way to get sex.
I mean look at the congress critters. If they were not in the halls of government, would they be able to pull so far above their heads? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:51 PM (zZu0s) --- Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:52 PM (ZOv7s) 351
Most religions reserve for themselves the province of having the true insight into things.
I wonder if Manicheanism still has adherents. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (zZu0s) 352
151 The real Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT, falls into this category, although the many socks of her do not. She is, perhaps, the most socked regular we have. Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2026 08:20 PM ------ Was there ever a real Mary Cloggenstein? I always assumed she was a parody. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (VWtfl) 353
Up until a couple weeks ago, I consoled myself slightly with "Well, at least we don't have to worry about Sikhs." Have to cross that one off the pacifier list.
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (Jr5Lq) 354
Ma Ma Where's My Pa? ____________ Grover Cleveland said yes, he had an affair and he was going to acknowledge the kid as his even though she (*ahem*) got around. In short, he was a stand-up guy. One of the few good Democratic presidents. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (O0L8i) 355
Or is she just playing doubles, and that is why she is in London?
Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (GD0B3) 356
344 I wonder if we have moderate Muslim lurkers?
Posted by: Aetius451AD ====== They would be apostates. Any mention of the Bacon Wench alone would cause palpitations. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:54 PM (E4rtv) 357
Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:45 PM (Fi81e)
I guess if you are talking an organized religion . But IMO if you believe Jesus was the Son of God and died for our sins then you are a Christian, organized religion or not. Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:49 PM (GseMx) --- I'm happy to see it that way. However, organization or not, that is a doctrine that we should consider John 3:16 as central. The only question is that is that a better scripture reading than an alternative--or even as central, can we improve upon that understanding as part of the whole of scripture? Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:54 PM (Fi81e) 358
If we're being really honest and of course we aren't Whites would win almost all the elections.
In a truly neutral landscape Whites would win almost all the elections. Yet that doesn't happen We have a rigged system today. Our elections have become assumed to be defined and I guess we're all OK with that. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 08, 2026 09:55 PM (+ZHEV) 359
Was there ever a real Mary Cloggenstein? I always assumed she was a parody.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (VWtfl) No, there was never a real Cloggenstein. Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 09:55 PM (GD0B3) 360
I shall be more specific. In a time when it is widely recognized that including gender and race in promotions has been disastrous to the US military, wrapping your identity around be the "first woman" anything in the military is politically problematic.
Was she the best candidate or a diversity admission forced by political pressure? I'm frankly sick of "first" whatever. That's who she is. Not the best, some random first. Just like we had to have first female F-14 pilots, first female rangers, first female flag officers. Canada's highest military officer is a chick. Same for Australia. Enough already. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:36 PM (ZOv7s) Apparently Nancy Mace’s daddy was the commandant. So she had connections and was “networked”, which is all that matters in society now. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 09:55 PM (T6aVk) 361
Was there ever a real Mary Cloggenstein? I always assumed she was a parody.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (VWtfl) When I first started commenting, it seemed like we were a lot more .... varied. Also a LOT rougher. Elbows got thrown a lot. I think it meant people thought they could join in easier, if they could handle the elbows. We did not seem quite as ... monolithic then. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s) 362
I wonder if Manicheanism still has adherents.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:53 PM (zZu0s) --- The worldview lives on, if that's what you mean. Paganism is alive and well. Pelagianism is particularly popular at the moment. Nothing is new under the sun. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (ZOv7s) 363
102 In case you hear the "Paxton's impeachment defense lawyer endorses Talarico!" story, here's the part they're leaving out:
Said lawyer is a lifelong Democrat. And said lawyer currently represents the muslim organization that just had their sharia city dreams shut down by Paxton. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2026 07:54 PM (73/SM) And if said lawyer values his license, he'll keep everything he may have heard as Paxton's lawyer to himself. Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (0CU3H) 364
It was also very hard for me to tell who was a sock and who was a regular.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s) 365
358 If we're being really honest and of course we aren't Whites would win almost all the elections.
In a truly neutral landscape Whites would win almost all the elections. Yet that doesn't happen We have a rigged system today. Our elections have become assumed to be defined and I guess we're all OK with that. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 08, 2026 09:55 PM (+ZHEV) I wish we would stop viewing everything through the prism of race like the Left so very badly wants. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM (T6aVk) 366
BurtTC was another.
If you disagreed with him in any of those points, he got very, very angry. Posted by: Cow Demon Shortly after I signed up here many years ago (and under my old nic), BTC called me a troll. Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM (W5mpo) 367
364 It was also very hard for me to tell who was a sock and who was a regular.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s) None of you even exist. It's just me in here. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM (5NDL0) Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:58 PM (CzhWp) 369
I wonder if Manicheanism still has adherents.
Posted by: Aetius451AD The concept has its serial number filed off and is used again. Old wine in new wineskins. Much of what leftists do reflects that idea. But read St. Irenaeus on Heresies and you get the sense of how twisted human thinking can be on heresies. The Divine Christ is leading people to salvation but the carnival barker religious 'teachers' just love to lead others to stray from divine truth. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 09:59 PM (E4rtv) 370
We did not seem quite as ... monolithic then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s) --- Well, I can guess that SSM was sieve and that Covid compliance was another sieve. I mean who can believe that we went through 2020-2021 in America? Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 09:59 PM (Fi81e) 371
None of you even exist. It's just me in here.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM (5NDL0) Deep Thought Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 09:59 PM (GseMx) 372
*turns Greek coffee cup upside down in saucer*
*heads off to look for an ONT* Posted by: mindful webworker - conspicuous invisibility at June 08, 2026 10:00 PM (dn9xm) 373
When I first started commenting, it seemed like we were a lot more .... varied. Also a LOT rougher. Elbows got thrown a lot. I think it meant people thought they could join in easier, if they could handle the elbows. We did not seem quite as ... monolithic then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s) --- I lurked for years. Rarely read comments which were crazy. In the early years, Ace did tons of long-form work, and that was what I came here for. He'd reference people in his posts, and I'd read the comments, but never mixed it up. And when the Trump Wars started, I stayed clear. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 10:00 PM (ZOv7s) 374
Shortly after I signed up here many years ago (and under my old nic), BTC called me a troll.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM (W5mpo) BurtTC’s absence dramatically improves AoS. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 10:00 PM (T6aVk) 375
Fuck it all Fridays used to be a thing.
Then we got soft. Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2026 09:58 PM (CzhWp) My theory is Ace got married, and moved into the country. Now it's all kittehs, and doggehs, and crows. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 10:00 PM (0aYVJ) 376
LAST!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 10:01 PM (0aYVJ) 377
Evening, Ace and Cafe Horde. I saw a mama antelope and her two kids while driving into town to get groceries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2026 10:01 PM (1z8ji) 378
2012 seemed to turn off a lot of people.
2016 of course was a circular firing squad. But even before that ace was trying to make the blog more attractive to advertisers, so he asked us to start toning down the rampant language and insults. I think that had the adverse effect of not letting people blow off steam and so fueds would simmer until people exploded and got banned. Covid also skimmed some people out. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2026 10:02 PM (zZu0s) 379
I mean who can believe that we went through 2020-2021 in America?
To me, it still seems like a very bad dream. Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 08, 2026 10:02 PM (ceJ0R) 380
aos was the Wild West 20+ years ago. Then it got a Marshal and got civilized.
Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2026 10:03 PM (GseMx) 381
Now it's all kittehs, and doggehs, and crows.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at June 08, 2026 10:00 PM (0aYVJ) The crows in particular are murder. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 10:04 PM (T6aVk) 382
I mean who can believe that we went through 2020-2021 in America?
== Everything went to shit after 11/4/2008. Posted by: runner at June 08, 2026 10:04 PM (GD0B3) 383
nood ONT
Posted by: LRob in OK at June 08, 2026 10:06 PM (Jr+re) 384
When I first started commenting, it seemed like we were a lot more .... varied. Also a LOT rougher. Elbows got thrown a lot. I think it meant people thought they could join in easier, if they could handle the elbows. We did not seem quite as ... monolithic then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD People were younger then as a rule. The ones that stuck with the blog are more socially aware and I think sense our peril now is far more dangerous than during the SCOAMF years. The vibe was far more libertarian back then from my recollection as was the earlier web so the insults, etc. flowed from that sense of freedom of what was repressed in society. Now, too much evil has been revealed from quarters that we erroneously thought could never truly win or persuade. So a certain grimness has taken hold of people here that don't tolerate just asking questions from bad sources and contrariness as much anymore. It was hard to take those Obama sycophants seriously at the time (the fake columns in Denver for example) but the intent of leftists in his orbit were to destroy the world as we know it. And they just about got away with it. Posted by: whig at June 08, 2026 10:07 PM (E4rtv) 385
Pelagianism is particularly popular at the moment.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 08, 2026 09:56 PM (ZOv7s) --- If you view things as a projectable tensions, we construe that God knows the end as "predetermination". But pre-determined doesn't so much appear in the Bible, it just stresses God's foreknowledge. That he cannot be surprised and will not be surprised. Predetermination is when we start to get clever and assume we know how God pre-knows. In other words, the stress is what God knows, not the futility of our lives, which scripture never gives us much to say is futile, unless we chose to remain in rebellion. We have all the "choose" literature in contrast. Even though we can come up with a simple model of God "outside time and space" and the entire human life being chartable on a grid, we should not let our need for simplicity determine whether or not God is cryptic on "choosing". Posted by: Axeman at June 08, 2026 10:08 PM (Fi81e) 386
>>>Most religions reserve for themselves the province of having the true insight into things.
I wonder if Manicheanism still has adherents. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone >I grew up around a lot of mormons, scientologists, and jehovah witness. They weren't looking to kill everybody, they were looking to recruit. Not my bag, but I have no truck with these people. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 08, 2026 10:09 PM (pSkMS) 387
365 I wish we would stop viewing everything through the prism of race like the Left so very badly wants. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 08, 2026 09:57 PM ------- There is the prism of race. And then there is the fact of it. "We" don't make race paramount, the Left does. They use it in the Marxist oppressor/oppressed paradigm. Some minorities, e.g. Karmelo Anthony's family, wallow in it. The Left wants to shove it down our throats, and says we're racists if we don't want to play. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 08, 2026 10:10 PM (VWtfl) 388
If some long time commenters here start to call you a troll, you need to take notice.
You are probably starting to straddle the line. A place that has been here as long as this has some internal enforcement mechanisms and that really isn't a bad thing. On line free speech extremists would say there should be no limits, but I don't think that's realistic. This place that Ace has built and maintained for the last, what, 15 years, is the last place like it in America that is like it. A genuinely open online political, what? chat group? I'm not aware of anything on the left like this. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 08, 2026 10:18 PM (+ZHEV) 389
This place that Ace has built and maintained for the last, what, 15 years, is the last place like it in America that is like it.
A genuinely open online political, what? chat group? I'm not aware of anything on the left like this. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 08, 2026 10:18 PM (+ZHEV) *********************************** Ace of Spades HQ: Come for the D&D-themed humor, stay more than 20 years for the smart military commentary Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at June 08, 2026 10:38 PM (PT8hI) Processing 0.06, elapsed 0.0709 seconds. |
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