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Book Thread: June 7th, 2026 (MP4)

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Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. It’s time once again for the monthly MP4-hosted Sunday Book Thread. As it’s June, it’s time for Royal Ascot!

So ask the barman at the Enclosure for a 1995 Louis Roederer, covfefe or tea and let’s get started!

‘food, glorious food’

If you’ve ever had the misfortune of meeting me, you can tell from my waistline that I love to eat. I won’t give you my exact measurements, but I will note that Edward VII had a waistline of 48 inches, which in his day was considered grossly obese. His Majesty and I could share closets.

I love to eat. I like to cook, but unlike CBD, I’m not very good at it. But I love to read about food. Not just recipe books, which, although entertaining on their own, can be somewhat dull, but books about the history and sociology of food. For instance, I have several books dedicated to food, its preparation and the status of cooks in both high and low society during the Middle Ages, each of which is the sort of read that both informs you and leaves you hungry. Here are three:The Medieval Cook, and Fast and Feast: Food in Medieval Society, both by Bridget Ann Henisch and Fabulous Feasts: Medieval Cookery and Ceremony, by Madeline Pelner Cosman.

I also love books about dining outside the house, in restaurants, cafés and roadside venues; two of my faves are Repast: Dining Out at the Dawn of the New American Century, 1900-1910, by Michael Lesy & Lisa Stoffer and Appetite City: A Culinary History of New York, by William Grimes. And that’s not even touching other tomes like Duncan Hines’ various editions of Adventures in Good Eating, histories of the Harvey Girls and drive-ins, or bios of the founders of the great fast-food chains such as Colonel Sanders, the McDonald brothers or Billy Ingram, the man behind White Castle.

What about you? Are cookbooks just instruction manuals to you or treats to dip into during a particularly puckish mood? Have you ever, like me, come across a Delmonico’s menu from 1895 and wonder if you could make your way through a Gay Nineties lobster palace night?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:00 AM




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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2026 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)

2 Read “The Cardinal’s Curse,” a short pulp-era story by J. Allen Dunn. It’s a pirate tale. “And don't all good stories involve pirates?" – The History Guy.
A crew attacks a galleon that has a Cardinal on board. He doesn’t really pronounce a curse on the pirates, but after stealing his cross, bad things start to happen to the pirate who takes it. Suffice to say, everyone who acquires it comes to a bad end. The story is full of rousing sea action and a fight to the death to possess the cross. If you like stories of that type, you’d probably like this one.
Also read “Vengeance is Mine,” by George W. Ogden, a pulp-era western tale concerning a driver escorting a railroad man through a region of the West with sheepherder and cattlemen trouble. The driver tells about his time running sheep and a confrontation with a cattleman in the past that cost him dearly. A man who resembles someone who was just at the camp while the driver was elsewhere. The driver goes to find the man and returns later, having not taken revenge. A storm breaks out, leading to a strange ending for the cattleman. Coincidences abound, but they don’t detract from the story.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:01 AM (1Ff7Z)

3 BOING!

Someone needs to author a book: "Is Beirut Burning?"

Yeh, jets in the air.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:01 AM (5UTWB)

4 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 07, 2026 09:01 AM (NcvvS)

5 Good morning, fellow bibliophages.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 09:02 AM (kpS4V)

6 Booken morgen, horden & MP4!

Lovely pic up top.

I read Nine Goblins by T.Kingfisher the other day. This was her first self-published book, and her first non-kids book, written for fun. It is fun, and author says she was inspired by Terry Pratchett.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:02 AM (fE6HJ)

7 Thought slept through day and was the Food thread
Very slowly reading Carl v.Clauswitz's On War
And am convinced those in the White House and Pete's people should be reading the same thing

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2026 09:03 AM (Ia/+0)

8 The Medieval Cook, and Fast and Feast: Food in Medieval Society, both by Bridget Ann Henisch and Fabulous Feasts: Medieval Cookery and Ceremony, by Madeline Pelner Cosman.

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These are just the sort of historical books I find fascinating

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:03 AM (fE6HJ)

9 Morning, Horde....How goes it?

Thanks, MP4, for once again hosting an excellent Sunday Morning Book Thread!

I don't have too many books about food, but I do have James Lileks "Gallery of Regrettable Food" and its sequel "Gastroanomalies."

Both are a hilarious look at hideous culinary creations of the past.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:04 AM (gnNyN)

10 Louis l'amour's son beau has a throwback cold war thriller in the style of cussler and forsyth

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:04 AM (bXbFr)

11 Skyring station, i had to do a double take

L'amour had done his fare share of adventure stories

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:05 AM (bXbFr)

12 I know that in Papua, New Guinea, a popular cookbook is How to Serve Man.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:05 AM (0U5gm)

13 I don't have too many books about food, but I do have James Lileks "Gallery of Regrettable Food" and its sequel "Gastroanomalies."

Both are a hilarious look at hideous culinary creations of the past.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:04 AM (gnNyN)

Poor fella's in a bad way right now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:06 AM (1Ff7Z)

14 Thank you to the person who recommended Ed McBain's "Ghosts." I enjoyed it and plan to read more McBain.

Posted by: Wethal at June 07, 2026 09:06 AM (gihWY)

15 MP, have you ever looked into those eighteenth century cookbooks that Jon Townsend talks about on his YT channel?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:07 AM (1Ff7Z)

16 Good Sunday morning, horde.

MP4, I love the artwork. I'm thinking it's Toulouse-Lautrec, but now I'm doubting myself.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:07 AM (h7ZuX)

17 There are several recipe-type cookbooks out there that are vehicles for comedy: Sandra Boynton's Chocolate: The Consuming Passion (more fun stuff, esp. her illustrations, than recipes), Steve Graham's Eat What You Want and Die Like a Man, and Real Men Don't Cook Quiche.

And, of course, The Deplorable Gourmet, with great recipes & wit.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 07, 2026 09:08 AM (NcvvS)

18 Morning, book people,

Yes, I'd say a waistline of 48 in. is obese, whether in 1905 or now! I love to eat, but cooking is something that I have rarely dabbled in. I heat things, via oven or microwave, but mixing or blending diverse ingredients is beyond me at present. So cookbooks have rarely figured in my reading or as any part of my library.

When I have to write a scene where people are eating out, or even at home, and are preparing something unusual, I have to research it, even if it is in the present day.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:08 AM (wzUl9)

19 I'm thinking of having melons for breakfast.

Posted by: Guy at the table at June 07, 2026 09:08 AM (1Ff7Z)

20 Stephen Price Blair is the one to go to about books on food and cookbooks.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026 09:09 AM (VCgbV)

21 I once found a very old cookbook of sorts in an out of the way shop, with some fascinating recipes. Of course, some old recipes are impossible to recreate, given the difficulty of obtaining eye of newt these days.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:10 AM (0U5gm)

22 I love cookbooks. I almost never make anything directly from them. They are more inspiration for me.

Books about food, though, especially historical, are always interesting to me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:10 AM (h7ZuX)

23 I read The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt. The generation which matured using flip phones are mentally much healthier than Gen Z which matured using smart phones and social media apps. Haidt gives an overview of the many studies in this area and how almost constant screen time affects pre-teen and teens. Finally, he suggests actions that parents, schools, and various levels of government can do to restore sound mental health in our children.

Posted by: Zoltan at June 07, 2026 09:10 AM (VOrDg)

24 Humorist Robert Benchley was also a man "of substance" and in one of his essays longingly reviewed a menu from Delmonico's, one of those marathon dinners with a dozen courses featuring fish, flesh, and fowl. Something those captains of industry, like the top-hatted gent above, could linger over unashamedly.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 09:10 AM (kpS4V)

25 For those ive sent samples i'm probably a little too exposition heavy in my work

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:11 AM (bXbFr)

26 I think there is a companion book to Patrick O'Brian's series with recipes of British food served in Napoleonic era ships
I don't have it but remember it coming out.

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2026 09:11 AM (Ia/+0)

27 Re the artwork:

"Well now we are just negotiating the price."

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:11 AM (jnTpz)

28 Poor fella's in a bad way right now.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:06 AM (1Ff7Z)


??

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:12 AM (/HDaX)

29 'A dozen oysters here, waiter!'
-dude with hat

Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2026 09:12 AM (LHPAg)

30 I think there is a companion book to Patrick O'Brian's series with recipes of British food served in Napoleonic era ships
I don't have it but remember it coming out.

Posted by: Skip


I bet the sailors remember that, too.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:12 AM (0U5gm)

31 Travel books with extended remarks about the local dietary habits are usually a delight.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 09:13 AM (rj6Yv)

32 Currently I'm finishing Eleanor Herman's 2004 Sex With Kings, an overview with fascinating anecdotes about royal mistresses from medieval times -- well, about 1350 or so -- until Wallis Simpson and Edward VIII in the early 20th Century.

I finished off the Isaac Asimov collection, Nightfall and Other Stories, which has several very solid stories in it. His robot collection -- I, Robot with connecting material between the widely spaced stories -- is next, and then the second in S.M. Stirling's alternate-universe series about a Burroughs-like Venus and Mars, with humans, Neanderthals, sabertooths, and dinosaurs, in the late 1980s.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:13 AM (wzUl9)

33 Alistsir maclean was spsring in some stories like puppet on a string which is like french connection but ser in amsterdam

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:13 AM (bXbFr)

34 What about you? Are cookbooks just instruction manuals to you or treats to dip into during a particularly puckish mood? Have you ever, like me, come across a Delmonico’s menu from 1895 and wonder if you could make your way through a Gay Nineties lobster palace night?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:00 AM
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We have a few, but I never use them. We have a book of family recipes that I consult on specific dishes, but mostly I cook by habit or instinct. My grandmother did this - so that there was always a bit of variation in the same dish.

Obviously, most of the food we eat is pretty standard fare, especially in the summer: hot dogs and hamburgers on the grill. But even when using taco mix, we sometimes spice things up and my youngest (who is doing more cooking these days) is experimenting in her own way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)

35 Poor fella's in a bad way right now.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Lileks? Is he sick?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:14 AM (dE3DB)

36 I love to eat, but cooking is something that I have rarely dabbled in. I heat things, via oven or microwave, but mixing or blending diverse ingredients is beyond me at present.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:08 AM (wzUl9)

If I was going to create a You Tube channel, I think I'd make one called "Real, plain, food." Teach those bache types how to make their own food instead of spending money on premade stuff. It's cost too much money and you'd need a good kitchen set up to do it with good camera angles. Nothing fancy with sissy ingredients, just show how to make your own burgers, ribs, chicken. You know, real food.*

*Narrator: "He will, in fact, not create a You Tube channel.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:14 AM (1Ff7Z)

37 Of course, some old recipes are impossible to recreate, given the difficulty of obtaining eye of newt these days.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026


***
"First, catch the newt . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:14 AM (wzUl9)

38 Art Thread!

It seems he asked for a seat with a view.

Posted by: fd at June 07, 2026 09:15 AM (vFG9F)

39 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Hello to MP4 and thanks for an interesting topic.

Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2026 09:15 AM (yTvNw)

40 Last Sunday afternoon, finished the last of Donald Westlake's 24 Parker novels. And I've gotta say, the couple of lines of dialog that finish that book are just about the hardest of hard-boiled you're likely to stumble across.

Still haven't decided on a series or big book to read next, so am revisiting a book of interviews with Robert Silverberg and am a couple of chapters into the new translation of Simenon's The Cat.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:16 AM (q3u5l)

41 I think there is a companion book to Patrick O'Brian's series with recipes of British food served in Napoleonic era ships
I don't have it but remember it coming out.

Posted by: Skip

"Garnish with weevils."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 07, 2026 09:16 AM (ndZc7)

42 Oh, and...

Morning, MP4.

Howdy, Horde.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (q3u5l)

43 ??
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:12 AM (/HDaX)

Lileks? Is he sick?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:14 AM (dE3DB)

Yeah. A year or so ago, his wife texted him that she wanted a divorce. While he was on vacation in England.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (1Ff7Z)

44 I read almost exclusively on my iPad using Kindle these days. Still have all my books, but I've read them. I'm finished with Kindle $0.99 compilations of short stories written in the '50s.

I downloaded three new books, from an author I had never read, on a topic I rarely follow. And they entertained me mightily.

They are three novellas in The Garden at the End of the Galaxy series, by Jon Kiln. Old Man's Patch, Old Man's Vines, and Old Man's Bloom. These are about gardening in a science fiction setting, with a curmudgeonry old man (no resemblance, since I don't garden) and his cucumber garden, with a fiesta older woman neighbor who verbally spars with him, and then stuff happens.

Well drawn characters, fluid writing, and nice plot twists enhance these stories. These could easily be dreary tales of woe in an indifferent universe. But they were heartwarming instead.

I gave the stories 5 stars, something I rarely do.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (u82oZ)

45 Had a grits bowl at Waffle House yesterday. Sausage, eggs, cheese, and bacon. Delicious. It's fun to watch a well trained WH crew do their thing with Pull, Mark and Drop.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 07, 2026 09:18 AM (CJnkZ)

46 With the lawn mowed and my wife out of town, I had a free weekend for reading, but I was still considering my options when, to my surprise, the inter-library system fulfilled an order that I thought it had canceled. (I miss the previous system, MOBIUS; it worked so well.) So I'm into the world of "Rip" Kirby, a postwar comic strip detective originally drawn by Alex Raymond, who came to fame as the creator of the strip "Flash Gordon." This was the first "Rip Kirby" omnibus put out by IDW's Library of American Comics imprint. With IDW's demise, LAC may be defunct, too.

This is definitely postwar; in a 1946 story, a World Congress of top scientists gathers to discuss how to control a (stolen) formula for a deadly biological agent and lesser weapons, such as the atom bomb.

Rip Kirby was promoted as a cultured intellectual -- he wears glasses, plays piano, and smokes a pipe -- who is handy with his fists or guns. Other than the first story, a murder mystery, I've seen a lot more adventuring than detecting.

(Bio of Alex Raymond to follow.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 07, 2026 09:18 AM (tIPDA)

47 MP4, I have got to ask if you are a fan of Pino Daeni paintings.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2026 09:18 AM (5P5DO)

48 Cookbooks? I have a few dozen BUT, I mostly use my family recipes that are collected in a 3 ring binder. I've been making an effort to try new things lately as I've been in a bit of a food rut.

One of the church ladies has been giving me specialty foods and ingredients recently - cheeses, homemade pastas, and the like. She loves to cook but it's only her now and cooking for one is difficult.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:19 AM (jnTpz)

49 >>It seems he asked for a seat with a view.

Gent in the background looks like he's checking out the side view, which will likely annoy the lady who seems to be talking to him.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 07, 2026 09:19 AM (NcvvS)

50 For the study of creative writing, it's hard to beat the Biden FBI's adventure tales:

"FBI fires several analysts tied to disputed ‘Catholic ideology’ memo"

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/5n8mkzcb

Hat tip to renowned author of fiction, Sarah Hoyt.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 09:19 AM (rj6Yv)

51 Instead of moving along with the story of FBI agent Aloysius Pendergast after more than twenty cases, Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child have chosen in Pendergast, The Beginning to go back in time to the earliest days of his FBI career, with a case assigned to him and his overseer Dwight Chambers, of a serial killer near his home town of New Orleans.

It is a strange case, beginning with a murder victim being found with his right arm removed in a surgical manner. As they pursue the leads, many of the idiosyncratic quirks of Pendergast are already beginning to appear; his manner of dress, his affectations of language, as well as his esoteric tastes and interests.

We also get a glimpse farther back, along with that of his aide-de-camp Proctor, who re-enters Pendergast's life in an unusual way, years after they had served together in a secretive military outfit. The situations they encounter are tense, despite the fact that we know they survive, since they appear later in time in other Pendergast books. As the case progresses, Pendergast and Chambers begin to wonder if they are just chasing a serial killer, or something even more sinister is going on.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:20 AM (0U5gm)

52 Alex Raymond is considered one of the three pioneers in realistic comic strip art. The others are Milton Caniff ("Terry and the Pirates" and "Steve Canyon") and Hal Foste⁷r ("Prince Valiant"). He'd left "Flash Gordon" in 1944 to join the Marines, and after his discharge in 1946, his syndicate refused to reinstate him. Instead it asked him to start a detective strip and offered 60 percent ownership. "Rip Kirby" was successful, and Raymond was riding high until he died in a car crash in 1956. The circumstances of the crash are subject to speculation.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (tIPDA)

53 Phooey! Have to take the wife to work again!

I hope by the time I return I find a classy and witty bunch of comments to read and savor. Like you'd find if you spent an evening with the panel of What's My Line?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (1Ff7Z)

54 We also get a glimpse farther back, along with that of his aide-de-camp Proctor, who re-enters Pendergast's life in an unusual way, years after they had served together in a secretive military outfit. The situations they encounter are tense, despite the fact that we know they survive, since they appear later in time in other Pendergast books. As the case progresses, Pendergast and Chambers begin to wonder if they are just chasing a serial killer, or something even more sinister is going on.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:20 AM (0U5gm)
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I've been debating whether to read that one...

Is it worth it?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (gnNyN)

55 We used Modern Cooking by Betty Crocker as the textbook in Home Ec and I stuck with that for years.

Creative Wok Cooking (1976) was also a mainstay.

Of course, The Deplorable Gourmet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (RIvkX)

56 Yeah. A year or so ago, his wife texted him that she wanted a divorce. While he was on vacation in England.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (1Ff7Z)


Oof. Although it does raise the question of why he was vacationing in England w/o his wife.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (/HDaX)

57 Now I do come up with some dishes which require more than popping the dish into the microwave. Generally I put together things I like, and sometimes I achieve. Years ago, you may remember, there were *baked* breaded chicken filets to be found in the freezer at the grocery. I took one, spread some spaghetti sauce on it and sprinkled it with parmesan cheese, and heated it as per instructions in the oven.

Imagine my surprise when I found I had independently reinvented chicken parmigiana.

I will also "supercharge" chicken soup with canned chicken. I saute the canned chunks first, sprinkling paprika and chili powder on it, while the soup heats in the MW. Then I stir the grilled chunks into the soup, and voila. Same with canned chili; chunks of grilled, seasoned chicken in that make for a solid meal.

Angel hair pasta plus sauce atop a microwaved beef & bean burrito, I call "Mexitalian," or "Italomex" (which last term sounds like a wall cement, but it's very tasty).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:22 AM (wzUl9)

58 I've finished A Canticle for Liebowitz, and am casting about for my next read. Nothing is really speaking to me at the moment.

Although, I was at the library yesterday to pick up Thunderstruck by Erik Larson. On the shelf next to it was a small volume that caught my interest: The First CELEBRITY SERIAL KILLER in Southwest Ohio: Confessions of the Strangler Alfred Knapp.

Probably can't go wrong with a historical account of a regional serial killer.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:22 AM (h7ZuX)

59 38 Art Thread!

It seems he asked for a seat with a view.

Posted by: fd at June 07, 2026 09:15 AM (vFG9F)

Yes, I thought it was Monday all of a sudden...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:22 AM (l3cgK)

60 Morning, all. Sorry to be late.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 09:23 AM (qRla/)

61 Reading about food just makes me hungry. I am reminded of when I was doing genealogical research, some years back. I found that one of my ancestors was a man named John Pancake, a captain in the Virginia State Militia. That's right; I'm a direct descendant of Captain Pancake.

Anyway, every time I looked at records on this family, I felt an intense desire to stop reading and head over to IHOP.



Posted by: Toad-0 at June 07, 2026 09:23 AM (Z2Qim)

62 So what'd you think of Canticle?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:23 AM (/HDaX)

63 My salad arrangement has been the same for many years. Iceberg lettuce, chopped fine; slices of radishes and green onions; and pickles instead of cucumbers, with the pickle juice instead of dressing. Chill for a few hours, so that the lettuce is a little less crisp and the juice has marinated it. It's fresh and salty and very good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:23 AM (wzUl9)

64 I have two cookbooks that I reference routinely. One is an old Betty Crocker cookbook, the other a Crock Pot cookbook that I got when my parents got me a crock pot for Christmas.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 07, 2026 09:24 AM (T6aVk)

65 My wife loved cook books...but only ever cooked recipes from a few of the many, many cookbooks she bought...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

66 Like you'd find if you spent an evening with the panel of What's My Line?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Hey Bennett, how's things going with The Famous Writers School? Any new bullshit you preparing for the gullible public?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:25 AM (jnTpz)

67 There are a few cookbooks on the shelves, but they don't get much use here at Casa Some Guy. Unless Mrs Some Guy decides to throw something into the crock pot, meals tend to be catch as catch can here. Out to eat for lunch a couple of times a week maybe.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:25 AM (q3u5l)

68 55 We used Modern Cooking by Betty Crocker as the textbook in Home Ec and I stuck with that for years.

Creative Wok Cooking (1976) was also a mainstay.

Of course, The Deplorable Gourmet.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (RIvkX)

Home Ec was one of my favorite classes. Did I care about sewing? No. The cooking? Hell yes.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 07, 2026 09:25 AM (T6aVk)

69 The picture up top is A Social Occasion in the Sophiensaal by Joseh Engelhart.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 09:26 AM (qRla/)

70 Related to the earl oc sandwich

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:27 AM (bXbFr)

71 America 250

Hasty pudding.

Hasty pudding is a pudding or porridge of grains cooked in milk or water. In the United States, it often refers specifically to a version made primarily with ground corn. It is mentioned in the lyrics of "Yankee Doodle", a traditional American song of the eighteenth century.

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 09:28 AM (adGdA)

72 I've been debating whether to read that one...

Is it worth it?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


Yes, it is surprisingly good. The only knock I can give it is that it doesn't read like a first book in a series, more like someone you know well relating an old story. The authors already developed their style with Pendergast books, and it is probably impossible to unlearn that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:29 AM (0U5gm)

73 71 America 250

Hasty pudding.

Hasty pudding is a pudding or porridge of grains cooked in milk or water. In the United States, it often refers specifically to a version made primarily with ground corn. It is mentioned in the lyrics of "Yankee Doodle", a traditional American song of the eighteenth century.

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 09:28 AM (adGdA)

Doesn't beat spotted dick...

Posted by: Ken Starmer at June 07, 2026 09:29 AM (l3cgK)

74 Yeah. A year or so ago, his wife texted him that she wanted a divorce. While he was on vacation in England.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (1Ff7Z)
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I used to read him regularly as part of my daily blog tour, but after a while his schtick got really dull.

I have to say that this is not surprising because being professionally Very Online can't be good for relationships with actual humans, especially talking in such detail about one's family. If memory serves, his kid is probably out of the house, which is one of the classic Danger Zones for modern marriages. Sad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)

75 MP4, thank you for a delightful painting on top and a welcoming book thread.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2026 09:30 AM (u82oZ)

76 Home Ec was just cooking.

We called it Second Breakfast.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2026 09:31 AM (RIvkX)

77 When I read Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe stories, I'm always at sea about the food. I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty. In Too Many Cooks -- which you'd guess from the title involves cooking and chefs -- Wolfe dictates a letter to a fellow gourmet about how raising pigs on a diet including peanuts produces very fine ham. I can harldy look at a can of peanuts now without thinking of ham and bacon.

The TMC novel involves something Wolfe is trying to get the recipe for, "saucisse minuit," which I think means "small sausage."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9)

78 MP4, I have got to ask if you are a fan of Pino Daeni paintings.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2026 09:18 AM (5P5DO)


Hadn't heard of him. I looked him up and his pictures are nice, though the women seem a bit 'book illustration' to me. Thanks!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 09:32 AM (qRla/)

79 I purchased Caroline Glick's book, "Shackled Warrior: Israel and the Global Jihad," when it came out in 2008. I somehow let it slip off of my to-read pile and gather dust on a shelf until about a month ago. 18 years. But maybe there's good in the delay.

The book compiles many of Glick's media columns published worldwide between around 2003 and 2007. The material covers the post-9/11 world, including the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and Israel's 2nd Lebanon War - and Iran's nuclear threat to the world. It points out the obvious failures of most everyone but especially of Israel, especially Prime Ministers Barak and more so Olmert (yuk!).

It's deja vu all over again. You could lightly edit some of these essays and republish them now. In 2026, it's practically an entire book of unintended I Told You Sos.

The last section of the book contains some of Glick's essays written as she travelled during battle in Iraq with US troops.

Whether it's Bush, Powell, Rice, Olmert, Netanyahu or US military brass and personnel - or to Glick herself, for that matter - the one thing everyone got wrong and still doesn't get is that you can't fix Islam.

Regards from northern Israel.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:33 AM (5UTWB)

80 Of course one of the best things about red sparrow are the country specific recopes

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:33 AM (bXbFr)

81 "I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty."

Pigeons.

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 07, 2026 09:33 AM (YGJ8E)

82 81 "I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty."

Pigeons.

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 07, 2026 09:33 AM (YGJ8E)

my solution to both pigeons and hungry homeless is feeding pigeons to the hungry homeless...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

83 Apparently theres is a russian specific cubsn sandwich

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:34 AM (bXbFr)

84 Hey Bennett, how's things going with The Famous Writers School? Any new bullshit you preparing for the gullible public?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026


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Larry Niven said that the Famous Writers School taught him to recognize when he was a real writer. It was when his name appeared on a magazine's or publisher's check.

I've always been amused by Bennett Cerf's name since I learned that his last name means "deer" -- the male deer, which can also be translated as "stag" or "buck."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:35 AM (wzUl9)

85 83 Apparently theres is a russian specific cubsn sandwich

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:34 AM (bXbFr)

No bread, no meat, no condiments?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:35 AM (l3cgK)

86 I like the painting, and the orange (not green!) oranges on the table are a nice touch.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (R+iUD)

87 "I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty."

Pigeons.

Posted by: Will Robinson

With an attitude.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (ndZc7)

88 "I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty."

Pigeons.

Posted by: Will Robinson



Colloquially known as rats with wings.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (0U5gm)

89 my solution to both pigeons and hungry homeless is feeding pigeons to the hungry homeless...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)
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I suspect it can also work the other way around as well...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (gnNyN)

90 We used Modern Cooking by Betty Crocker as the textbook in Home Ec and I stuck with that for years.

I think we have that one in a ring binder format which is nice. Not haute cuisine but very good for day-to-day type cooking.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (vTZFs)

91 I'm currently flipping through Self-Helf from the Middle Ages: What the Seven Deadly Sins Can Teach Us About Living by Peter Jones.

He's a professor of mediaeval studies and the book is an adaptation of lectures he gave while in residence at the University of Tyumen in Siberia. Very nicely written, and the chapter on "Sloth" has given me a lot to ponder.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 09:36 AM (qRla/)

92 62 So what'd you think of Canticle?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:23 AM (/HDaX)

I really wasn't getting it, at first. I don't know what I expected. I finally realized it is an examination of faith and how it carries humanity through all the things humanity does to itself. I think I'll probably re-read it soon.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (h7ZuX)

93 That and the interior dialogues of the characters

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (bXbFr)

94 Haute Hot[/b Cuisine - a limerick or two

History will never know the name
(Though the guy is deserving of fame)
He's the very first man
To pry open a can
And cook beans o'er an open flame

Canned chili (you'll get used to the stink)
Is tastier than at first you might think
Whether morning or noon
Just grab a big spoon
And eat 'em leaning over the sink

Posted by: muldoon at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (qgHp7)

95 I finished "Fractured," by Jason Anspach and Nick Cole, whichnis book 25 in the Galaxy's Edge series (which actually contains 46 books if you include spinoff series, which you should also read, as they are phenomenal). Fractured is the second book of the third "season" of the series.

Holy Shit!! So many dramatic developments, call-backs to much-loved characters from the spinoffs and some of the earliest-established characters.

"The galaxy is a dumpster fire" indeed! I love this series abd highly recommend that anyone who likes military sci-fi should try to read all 46 books in in-universe chronological order.

About to start "Platform Decay," the 8th book in Martha Wells' excellent MurderBot series.

Good morning, Book Nerds!

Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (/RHNq)

96 Drat. format fail.

Posted by: muldoon at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (qgHp7)

97 Yay Book Thread!

Cookbooks are fun, especially historical ones. I had some kid-friendly ones growing up that I read more than I cooked from them, got hooked on reading about historical foods with The Little House Cookbook (with recipes for foods mentioned in the Little House books, adapted for modern kitchens), and eventually graduated to collecting cool cookbooks and looking things up on Gode Cookery and Feeding America. It makes for useful detail in fiction, too, especially when there's a culture clash involved--I'm planning a scene in Loyal Valley: Diversion in which a British character gets introduced to the chili queens of San Antonio, which should be good for comic relief.

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Now, for the reason I'm delurking: could anybody use an editor? I'm not teaching this summer for the first time since '22, which would be great were it not for the fact that health problems and a paucity of classes to teach over the last ~3 years mean that I can't afford to take the summer off entirely but don't have the energy to go hunting for projects. The good Perfessor has my email, if you want to get in touch.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (azG9/)

98 There are cookbooks I use for recipes and some I use for information about food. The facsimile cookbooks from Townsends are fascinating, not always practical but interesting for the materials and procedures. (Some amounts would help.) I have a book about the foods of the early Quebecois settlers my ancestors would have used. We have a small book of colonial recipes put out by the restaurant where we had our wedding reception.

Some are have great recipes and are also gorgeous like the Kent Rollins books: history of chuck wagon cooking, beautiful photos of the area, society of cowboys on a cattle drive. Every one of the recipes I've tried have been delicious and not too complicated.

The Deplorable Gourmet is always a good starting point for greatr recipes and fun reading.

Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (yTvNw)

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:38 AM (0U5gm)

100 Close tags in the nic for the win, muldoon!

Posted by: Nazdar at June 07, 2026 09:38 AM (NcvvS)

101 my solution to both pigeons and hungry homeless is feeding pigeons to the hungry homeless...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

What did those poor pigeons ever do to deserve that?

Feed hobos to the pigeons!

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 07, 2026 09:38 AM (YGJ8E)

102 "I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty."
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Pigeons.

Posted by: Will Robinson
*
Colloquially known as rats with wings.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026


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I'd hope that Wolfe's chef Fritz gets his pigeons from someone who breeds healthy ones, not hapless city birds in the park.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

103 I have about 30 cookbooks but rarely use them anymore. My standbys are the Joy of Cooking and an older version of the New York Times cookbook. I just don't cook from scratch like I use to. Many times it's easier to search for a recipe online. smitten kitchen has good recipes along with pioneer woman. Pioneer woman recipes are also accessible and pretty simple to me. I use to like Cooks Illustrated magazine but it's very fussy and complicated in most cases. They do have some gems I still use with a few tweaks.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (VCgbV)

104 Oops, my bad, it was a menu dated 1885 from a Chicago restaurant in "The Dear Dead Table d'Hôte Days":

"As I look at it today, I can only stand, hat in hand, and now my head in reverence for the imagination, as well as the capacity, of that earlier day."

Blue points, soup, fish, broiled leg of mountain sheep, wild Turkey, leg if moose, loin of elk, cinnamon bear, black-tail deer, loin of venison, saddle of antelope, opossum, black bear, and duck. The list of birds takes two more paragraphs.

"The National Geographic Society evidently did the shopping for meat on behalf of the hotel."

Benchley, a portly gentleman often on a diet who felt like a crook when sneaking a furtive forkful of potato, rightly opined that constantly being cross and hungry might not be better than the occasional Victorian excess.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (kpS4V)

105 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:33 AM (5UTWB)

Doesn't she write for the Jerusalem Post or is she a freelance writer?

Posted by: dantesed at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)

106
I have an odd fascination while reading with descriptions of food and people eating.

My favorite FB site is Eating History, showing menus from the late 19th and first half of the 20th century from restaurants, inns, resorts, trains, steamships and social club dinners. Mutton, pigs feet, clams and shrimp cocktail, I notice, are now out of style.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (O0L8i)

107 Ol' Dude at the table in back (with the cigar) is lookin' at the girl leaning forward and he's thinkin' "Whoa! I wants me some o' dat!" - but in French. You know he is … yes, he is.

Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (ayRl+)

108 I use to like Cooks Illustrated magazine but it's very fussy and complicated in most cases. They do have some gems I still use with a few tweaks.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026


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Please don't tell me they have a centerfold . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (wzUl9)

109 Never tasted squab but just yesterday I tasted quail eggs for the first time.

Taste like chicken eggs but only a quarter of the calories.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:41 AM (5UTWB)

110 BTW, thanks to everyone who prayed for me in December; I keep forgetting to send Annie's Stew an update. The surgery was successful, but it threw me into a flare once my recovery reached a certain point, and getting my energy back since then has been... challenging.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at June 07, 2026 09:41 AM (azG9/)

111 from Insty - remove space, b/c both shorturl and is gd are being turds:

https://x.com/EmpireEnjoyer3 /status/2062747187251933472
[images]

Note one of the routes shown in the lower right image...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2026 09:41 AM (R+iUD)

112 Ol' Dude at the table in back (with the cigar) is lookin' at the girl leaning forward and he's thinkin' "Whoa! I wants me some o' dat!" - but in French. You know he is … yes, he is.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026


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The balding fellow with the van Dyke beard? Oh, yeah.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9)

113 I had the good fortune of spending my formative years on the Gulf of America coast, specifically Mobile. A unique phenomenon occurs there known as a Jubilee when dense populations of crab, shrimp and flounder will come into extremely shallow water and you can fill a washtub with delicious fresh seafood in minutes.
My mom had the Recipe Jubilee! cookbook from The Junior League of Mobile. Stained, dogeared and held together by rubber bands it was the inspiration for some of the best gumbo on the planet. And then there was the best thing of all: West Indies Salad.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 07, 2026 09:42 AM (CJnkZ)

114 Fritz and Wolfe should be okay as long as they're not getting their pigeons from Tom Lehrer.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:42 AM (q3u5l)

115 108 I use to like Cooks Illustrated magazine but it's very fussy and complicated in most cases. They do have some gems I still use with a few tweaks.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026

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Please don't tell me they have a centerfold . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (wzUl9)

Gordon Ramsey on an Ottoman...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (l3cgK)

116 Doesn't she write for the Jerusalem Post or is she a freelance writer?

Posted by: dantesed at June 07, 2026 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)
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Certainly used to publish in the JPost. Dunno if she still does. Have not seen her writing pop up for a while now, though I've seen event advertisements where she is a featured speaker.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (5UTWB)

117 As for my own writing - well, the less said about that, the better.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (qRla/)

118 The hilarious dude who runs the "You Suck At Cooking" YouTube channel has a very funny cookbook out. Easily found at Amazon by just searching "You Suck At Cooking."

Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (/RHNq)

119 Larry Corriea's new series is only on book 2,so you may not want to get started on it. I would have waited If I'd realized. I knew it wasn't finished, but had misread the Amazon entry for book 3 and didn't notice it was a preorder entry.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (lFFaq)

120 65 My wife loved cook books...but only ever cooked recipes from a few of the many, many cookbooks she bought...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

Some of us use them more as a guideline. I rarely buy a cookbook, unless from the thrift store. Check them out at the library a lot.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (h7ZuX)

121 109 Never tasted squab but just yesterday I tasted quail eggs for the first time.

Taste like chicken eggs but only a quarter of the calories.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:41 AM (5UTWB)

Given the size compared to chicken eggs, I'd expect the calories per egg to be much less than 1/4...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (l3cgK)

122 And then there was the best thing of all: West Indies Salad.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Where does one buy fresh West Indians these days?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (jnTpz)

123 It's swimming pool time! Water's still a bit cold but Scott Adams taught me that the cold makes me stronger. It worked!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (5UTWB)

124 I don't consider what I do cooking, just meal preparation. As I'd said, my wife -- a superb cook -- is out of town. With that in mind, I mixed up a big bowl of pasta, Alfredo sauce, diced ham, corn, and green besns. It will provide several lunches. She says corn and pasta is too much starch. Maybe, but it tastes so good.

I also bought sausage with cheese filling, something else she doesn't like. That will be today's lunch, along with store- ought potato salad.

My complaint about recipe books is that they cheat. "Preparation time: 20 minutes," and then one ingredient is diced green peppers. Uh, that didn't account for the time needed to dice the peppers.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (tIPDA)

125 120 65 My wife loved cook books...but only ever cooked recipes from a few of the many, many cookbooks she bought...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

Some of us use them more as a guideline. I rarely buy a cookbook, unless from the thrift store. Check them out at the library a lot.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (h7ZuX)

I think she liked the pretty pictures, and had the full intention of cooking from them...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (l3cgK)

126 Murder is Corny (1964) by Rex Stout.

"Shucked and boiled in water, sweet corn is edible and nutritious; roasted in the husk in the hottest possible oven for forty minutes, shucked at the table, and buttered and salted, nothing else, it is ambrosia. No chef’s ingenuity and imagination have ever created a finer dish."

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (adGdA)

127 Larry Corriea's new series is only on book 2,so you may not want to get started on it. I would have waited If I'd realized. I knew it wasn't finished, but had misread the Amazon entry for book 3 and didn't notice it was a preorder entry.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (lFFaq)
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I really hope he gets back to MHI soon.

He left that series on a rather significant cliffhanger.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (gnNyN)

128 Biden's Dog, live dangerously and try Cajun spiced pickled quail eggs.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (5P5DO)

129 Never tasted squab but just yesterday I tasted quail eggs for the first time.

Taste like chicken eggs but only a quarter of the calories.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:41 AM (5UTWB)

Given the size compared to chicken eggs, I'd expect the calories per egg to be much less than 1/4...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (l3cgK)
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Where's Captain Obvious when you need him!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (5UTWB)

130
Recommended: The Taste of War by Lizzie Collingham, a history of the role of food (civilian and military) in World War II.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

131 I don't think I've ever followed a cookbook recipe except if you count the back of a hamburger helper box.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (GseMx)

132 I've also been following a couple of guys on the Instagrams that posts short vids of dishes. For us folks that are pretty decent cooks, you really don't need much more than 3-4 minutes of instruction.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:46 AM (jnTpz)

133 Shes an advisor to netanyahu

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:46 AM (bXbFr)

134 Elisabeth G. Wolfe,glad to hear your surgery went well. Prayers for a full recovery.
The writer dojo fb group seems to frequently need editors.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:47 AM (GhIJO)

135 Note one of the routes shown in the lower right image...

Which one and why?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 07, 2026 09:47 AM (vTZFs)

136 @ 77 When I read Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe stories, I'm always at sea about the food. I don't know exactly what "squabs" are, though I expect they're tasty.
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You don't WANT to know what squab is. Oil, greasy, smelly when they're prepared … and not much in the Flavor & Fun departments, either. Mom fixed 'em once when my brother brought about a dozen home from his hunting trip - then she told him to never bring 'those things!' home again. No mo' squab.

Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:47 AM (ayRl+)

137 Squab was the funniest Two and a Half Men episode .

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 09:47 AM (GseMx)

138 Biden's Dog, live dangerously and try Cajun spiced pickled quail eggs.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (5P5DO)
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Love hot spice. Learned from my late father.

Even had fresh green chili peppers added to my salad for lunch today.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:47 AM (5UTWB)

139 Art Commentary: TLDR; too little too late.

What SHE thinks: Just hangin' out havin' a bud.
What HE thinks: Cruise shiped dung flinging balista's surrounding the LIB BASSholes and, firestarting BASStards...

And when the filth and corruption foams up around their waists and they all look up an cry "Save Us" TRUMP will whisper: NO.

Too late to save the LA Election/2028 Olympics -- and thus his legacy. Not to late to interdict the FIFA/False flag engineered to make BASSura the hero that she's not.

YES! Hunter Biden swooping in on his gyrocopter/hang-glider like Super Chicken! (but in real world: more like Kite Man)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKss2pBYQ6Y
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBsChickenRun


LET'S GO BRANDON!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-PutASmileOnThatFace
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-signedSCHWARTZWALD

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 07, 2026 09:48 AM (PfkJ2)

140 There's a stretch in the book of Silverberg interviews (Traveler of Worlds) where he discusses restaurants and his days discovering that food was not necessarily just fuel. It's fun reading even for a culinary illiterate like myself.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:48 AM (q3u5l)

141 I used to love reading cookbooks, but have stopped for some reason. Probably because any recipe I'm interested in, like unfamiliar foods in the anime Solo Camping for Two, has several options (and an ai explanation) with just a copy/paste into the browser.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 07, 2026 09:49 AM (lFFaq)

142 I have some favorite cookbooks - I do use them! My cookbook is a binder that I've put together over the years. I also have my mother's similar binder, and my grandmother's notebook/recipe book.

The "real cookbooks" I still use are the Frog Commissary one, a really fun Disney restaurant recipes one from ages ago, an Aruban cooking one, and one that the IHM Sisters put together with their own favorite family recipes.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 07, 2026 09:49 AM (j+aD2)

143 I read a memorable story this past week. Not a good one, but a memorable one. It was a sword and sorcery short story in the 'Savage Realms' e-zine. It was about a Conan-esque character, and a scribe that traveled with him. The scribe enjoyed fanciful stories and flowery prose, while Not-Conan was blunt and straightforward. The gimmick of the story, however, was that it was being relayed to the reader by the scribe, and thus even Not-Conan's words were paraphrased with unnecessary flourishes. "I then spied upon the creature of the temple; a sudden dread came upon me, and I deemed it wise to quit the place with all haste."

It was a was distinctive style, but not one I would enjoy for a whole novel.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 07, 2026 09:49 AM (3v7ra)

144
44 I read almost exclusively on my iPad using Kindle these days. Still have all my books, but I've read them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (u82oZ)

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This 100 percent! Kindle has been a Godsend for my aging eyes.

I will sometimes purchase the Kindle editions of books I already own the hard copies of if I want to re-read them: Lord of the Rings, Brother Cadfael series are some examples.

Right now I am in the middle of re-reading on Kindle a 47 book series of Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe stories. Just finished Book 19, Murder by the Book. Written around 1950.

I try to read something different in between the books (right now my daughter in law's recommended Amelia Peabody mysteries by Elizabeth Peters), but I love immersing myself in Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe world. When I take a break I find myself missing Archie Goodwin and Fritz and Saul and Inspector Cramer, and I can hardly wait to get back!

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at June 07, 2026 09:49 AM (TPFQA)

145 I'm about to finish Mao's Army Goes to Sea. The account of the conquest of Hainan is interesting, and while the operation was accomplished competently, once again it has very limited application to the current challenges confronting the PLAN. For one thing, the Nationalists at that time were defeated and demoralized, in complete disarray and while they had US aid and equipment, it was not in good shape following the retreat. Their troops were brittle and broke easily, while the Red Chinese were flushed with the confidence of victory and eager to reunify all of China's empire.

On the face of it, credit to the PLAN for managing invasions with sailing vessels, but crossing 20 nm straits under cover of darkness against an enemy without radar (or radio communication) is a bit different than the Taiwan Strait.

And of course the spirit of innovation, the freedom to improvise and cut corners, commanders being empowered to take huge risks for huge reward - those qualities are anathema to Xi Jinping's regime.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

146 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.

Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

147 Where does one buy fresh West Indians these days?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM
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Right next to the store where you can get fresh monkey for making Monkey Bread.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (CJnkZ)

148 Taste of Literary Intrigue The "Saucisse Minuit" (Midnight Sausage) is not just a recipe; it's a glimpse into the sophisticated world of Rex Stout's iconic detective, Nero Wolfe.

This particular recipe, originating from The Nero Wolfe Cookbook ...

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (adGdA)

149 a young man was murdered by his own home last night in South Philly. in a nice part. he was robbed and executed by "youths."

22 years old, heading into his senior year at PSU.

heartbreaking

bad things still do happen in Philadelphia

thanks Krasner

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (j+aD2)

150 Shes an advisor to netanyahu

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 09:46 AM (bXbFr)
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Grok with the details:

https://tinyurl.com/yc6tbad9

To the pooL!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (5UTWB)

151 On Friday Miss Linda and I visited a local pet shelter/thrift store. The store has a slew of nice older furniture bits, glass, porcelain, and gadgets, which are donated to them and they sell the items to support the cats they have for adoption. Anyway, in the back room, their "Book Nook," I found a book club edition of Richard Bradford's hilarious 1968 novel Red Sky at Morning. I have a good quality paperback of it, but a hardcover with dust jacket for $2.00 is a bargain.

The novel is set in WWII New Mexico in a town modeled on Santa Fe. It's a coming-of-age story; but unlike the usual ones of that ilk, it's laugh-out-loud funny. Sagrado, the town, is filled with bizarre and quirky characters, and 17-year-old Josh, the narrator, is a fast man with a quip -- as are his friends.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (wzUl9)

152 "murdered NEAR" I mean. "by" as in "near"

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (j+aD2)

153 >>> 127 Larry Corriea's new series is only on book 2,so you may not want to get started on it. I would have waited If I'd realized. I knew it wasn't finished, but had misread the Amazon entry for book 3 and didn't notice it was a preorder entry.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (lFFaq)
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I really hope he gets back to MHI soon.

He left that series on a rather significant cliffhanger.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (gnNyN)

https://monsterhunternation .com/2025/08/07/wip/

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (R+iUD)

154 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.


I think Twilight Zone pretty much killed interest in the topic.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 07, 2026 09:51 AM (vTZFs)

155 I came to a book thread and a food thread popped out.

Posted by: dantesed at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (Oy/m2)

156 129 quail eggs are mostly yolk, so more calorie dense than chicken eggs

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (dE3DB)

157 Thanks, vmom, both for the tip and for the prayers! I'll shoot OrangeEnt an email sometime this week.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (azG9/)

158 Book I'm currently reading:

Sister Wendy's 1000 Masterpieces


Can't say I'm enthralled with a lot of her choices so far.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (GseMx)

159 I like cookbooks related to my reading. I have the Nero Wolfe Cookbook with recipes used in the stories. Then "Delish!" by Philip Craig with meals used in his Martha's Vineyard mystery series. The Nero Wolfe recipes are mostly beyond my abilities but the Philip Craig recipes are both delish, hence the title, and easy.

Our honorary niece (we've known her since she was three months old) got married last year. (How the hell did she get into her twenties? Last week she was a toddler.) She and her husband are Tolkien fanatics. Her mom made a wedding cake that looked like the entrance to Bag End. Part of their wedding gift from us was several Middle-Earth related cook books. They've made quite a few of the recipes so far.

Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (yTvNw)

160 146 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

Could be fascinating. What DO they eat in the outlying galaxies?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)

161 Yeah. A year or so ago, his wife texted him that she wanted a divorce. While he was on vacation in England.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:17 AM (1Ff7Z)

The fact that she wasn't with him on his vacation might have been a clue.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2026 09:53 AM (syz1S)

162 Oh and the paintings she chose are in alphabetical order based on artist's name.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 09:53 AM (GseMx)

163 Certainly used to publish in the JPost. Dunno if she still does. Have not seen her writing pop up for a while now, though I've seen event advertisements where she is a featured speaker.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 07, 2026 09:43 AM (5UTWB
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She is in the PMO!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2026 09:54 AM (RIvkX)

164 Correia has a new series getting released on June 23.
American Paladin.
I saw a post of the first paragraph and I am already invested.
I think Nick Searcy will narrate the audiobook

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 09:54 AM (fE6HJ)

165
I once made a dish from the 14th Century called, "Hindle Wakes".

It came from a cookbook titled: "Great British Cooking: A Well-Kept Secret". The recipe for "Hindle Wakes" has survived basically unchanged since Ye Olde 14th Century, and gives you a good idea of eating among Their Betters as the average Brit peasant at that time probably ate at diet of turnips, weeds, and dirt.

Anyway, it's a very odd tasting chicken dish to the modern palate. Not really any seasoning beyond vinegar and prunes. I looked up some other medieval type dished and they all seem to run in that same neighborhood.

I fixed it for the family and everyone hated it. Not so much that it tasted bad but it was the alieness of HN. Anywho, I thought it was pretty good but have never felt the desire to remake the dish.

So, in summery- Take a time trip to the ancient world of Albion, and whip up a batch of handle Wakes.

So it now.

Now!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2026 09:54 AM (iJfKG)

166 Some of my most successful dishes (i.e., people ask for the recipe) came from Sunset magazine cookbooks.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 07, 2026 09:55 AM (FMtrg)

167 SF cookbooks?

Anne McCaffrey edited one called Cooking Out of This World, in which a bunch of sf writers presented some of their favorite recipes.

And then there's To Serve Man, inspired by the Damon Knight story. It's exactly what you think it is.

I don't know of any others.

Richard Brautigan's novel The Abortion is set in part in a strange library where people can leave the never-to-be-published books they've written and the librarian will add them to the collection. One guy drops off a book of recipes culled from the works of Dostoevsky, and says "I've eaten everything Dostoevsky ever cooked."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 09:55 AM (q3u5l)

168 Oof. Although it does raise the question of why he was vacationing in England w/o his wife.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 09:21 AM (/HDaX)

Back.

Don't know if anyone's said, but...

James is from Fargo ND. There was a woman named Peg (can't recall last name) who made it big in radio and tv in the 50s. He found out she was still alive a decade or so ago and made contact with her and became a family friend. Peg's daughter and husband live in England and he goes to visit them multiple times a year. Maybe the wife thought something was going on and decided to divorce him over it? They seemed to occasionally take separate vacs over the years and she might not have liked England. But yeah. I'd probably not spent as much time there as he did.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 09:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

169 > Duncan Hines’ various editions of Adventures in Good Eating

Not to be confused with Adventures in Good Drinking, by Drunken Hines.

> Larry Corriea's new series is only on book 2,so you may not want to get started on it.

It sounds like you're talking about the "Academy of Outcasts" series. It's pretty good.

He's actually got yet *another* new series dropping June 23, "American Paladin". From the opening paragraph:

No one likes getting pulled over for speeding, but that feeling's a whole lot worse when there's a dead pedophile in the back of your truck.

But man...close to $30 for a Kindle book, though. I'll have to think that one over. Academy of Outcasts is on Kindle Unlimited.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 07, 2026 09:56 AM (IG3/x)

170 Get your minds out of the gutter. Cook Illustrated went along with a TV show. they also had Americas Test Kitchen. They were both pricey but had great, solid recipes if you had the time and wanted to make the effort. Since going back to work 8+ years ago, I don't.
That Kenji Alt Lopez communist got his start there but far exceeded them. Talk about fussy and complicated! But he has the science to back his methods up. The Food Lab is the cookbook, it's expensive and weights about 20lbs. but it will teach you about the science behind what cooking does to food and why it tastes good.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026 09:56 AM (VCgbV)

171 Alternate title of Painting:

"You're Sure You're Rich?...Well then, Sir, If You Don't Like This View. Check Me Out From the Other Side of the Table"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (iJfKG)

172 Grandpa, an immigrant from eastern Europe, loved his squabs. He even converted a chicken coop into a pigeon loft on his farm for a reliable supply. His preferred dish was a soup. Whenever a skunk or weasel broke into the loft, we were entertained with a stream of cusswords in three languages

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (rj6Yv)

173 Right now I am in the middle of re-reading on Kindle a 47 book series of Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe stories. Just finished Book 19, Murder by the Book. Written around 1950.

I try to read something different in between the books (right now my daughter in law's recommended Amelia Peabody mysteries by Elizabeth Peters), but I love immersing myself in Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe world. When I take a break I find myself missing Archie Goodwin and Fritz and Saul and Inspector Cramer, and I can hardly wait to get back!
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at June 07, 2026

***
Murder by the Book
is one of his very best, along with Might As Well Be Dead, The Mother Hunt, and the Arnold Zeck trilogy. Stout really found his voice with NW & AG after the war and the move to Viking Press. Somehow the earlier books don't seem quite the same, as he was feeling his way. Always entertaining, but they are not at quite the same level.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (wzUl9)

174 Sister Wendy's 1000 Masterpieces

Can't say I'm enthralled with a lot of her choices so far.
Posted by: polynikes

Yeah, the lovely Mrs. bought that for me a few years ago. I was completely underwhelmed. It sits collecting dust next to a book on Michelangelo’s The Last Judgment. The contrast is striking - The good sister posts one paragraph on some mediocre work and then I have a few hundred pages on ONE of Michelangelo's paintings.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (jnTpz)

175 46 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

Could be fascinating. What DO they eat in the outlying galaxies?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)
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There are several Star Wars cookbooks out there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (gnNyN)

176 This week I finished « A Full Blown Yankee of the Iron Brigade » by Rufus R. Dawes. This is far and away the best Civil War memoir I’ve ever read. He includes excerpts from his diaries, letters home and to his fiancé and letters from others. He writes clear, east to follow accounts of all the battles of the Sixth Wisconsin Volunteers from the beginning of the war until he was mustered out at the end of his 3 year enlistment. He can be funny relating incidents of camp life without pulling any punches on the hardships and horror of war. If you have an interest in the Civil War it is a must read
Based on moron recommendations (IIRC) I started Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome. Only one chapter in but so far, so funny. A comic novel(?) that’s laugh out loud funny. Reminds a little of Mark Twain in The Innocents Abroad

Posted by: Who Knew at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (0QMbS)

177 I read a book called A Bite-Sized History of France, but I put it down a few times because it was so disgustingly political, and contemptuous of everything to the right of Rabelais. There were gratuitous shots at everything "right wing," and not a whit of criticism of the excesses of the left.

I would have bought a copy had the authors been less barking-mad commies, and more interested in just telling the history of food in France!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (iERP6)

178 130
Recommended: The Taste of War by Lizzie Collingham, a history of the role of food (civilian and military) in World War II.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

An army travels on its stomach.

Posted by: Napoleon at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (T6aVk)

179 125 120 65 My wife loved cook books...but only ever cooked recipes from a few of the many, many cookbooks she bought...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 07, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

Same here. It was somewhat difficult putting all of her cook books in the trash for pickup, but it had to be done. I don't cook and I'm slowly, but persistently decluttering my home.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 07, 2026 09:58 AM (J4Dwc)

180 Oh yeah, reading.

"Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants: Frequently Asked Questions about the Ancient Greeks and Romans" by Garrett Ryan is not just one of the greatest book titles, it's a new genre for me: highbrow bathroom reading. You know, short blasts, high volume.

BTW, the gladiators were fed a protein paste of mashed up bean soup and barley gruel to put meat on their bones, as a layer of fat was thought to protect the fighter from injuries.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

181 Re: Murder By the Book, Cramer has two of his best lines in it. He looks at Archie and says, "You know who's opinion I'd like to have of you? Darwin's. Where were you while evolution was going on?"

And later, he asks Wolfe, "What will you do in the meantime?" Wolfe: "Sit here." Cramer: "Someday you'll get chair sores."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 09:58 AM (wzUl9)

182 An army travels on its stomach.
Posted by: Napoleon at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (T6aVk)

The more they eat, the more they shit.

Posted by: Mao at June 07, 2026 09:58 AM (T6aVk)

183 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.

Posted by: Dr_No



That is a bit disconcerting, given that I have left instructions in my will to donate my body to science fiction.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 09:59 AM (0U5gm)

184 175 46 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

Could be fascinating. What DO they eat in the outlying galaxies?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)
----
There are several Star Wars cookbooks out there...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (gnNyN)

I wonder how much longer the "Mandalorian Menu" will last at Burger King.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 07, 2026 09:59 AM (T6aVk)

185 Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

B'Elanna Torres' Warp Core Breach Chili.

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 09:59 AM (adGdA)

186 Hey Bennett, how's things going with The Famous Writers School? Any new bullshit you preparing for the gullible public?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2026 09:25 AM (jnTpz)

Now, now. There were a couple of people who came out of it with contracts. Had more than one book published. Besides, Rod Serling pitched the school, too. If you can't trust Bennett Cerf and Rod Serling, who can you trust? Hal Block?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:00 AM (1Ff7Z)

187 >>> 170 Get your minds out of the gutter. Cook Illustrated went along with a TV show. they also had Americas Test Kitchen. They were both pricey but had great, solid recipes if you had the time and wanted to make the effort. Since going back to work 8+ years ago, I don't.
That Kenji Alt Lopez communist got his start there but far exceeded them. Talk about fussy and complicated! But he has the science to back his methods up. The Food Lab is the cookbook, it's expensive and weights about 20lbs. but it will teach you about the science behind what cooking does to food and why it tastes good.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 07, 2026 09:56 AM (VCgbV)

Shirley there's an earlier book like that:
https://shorturl.at/QJldV

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2026 10:00 AM (R+iUD)

188 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?
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There are many themed and tie-in cookbooks out there geared toward the fantasy/SF crowd.

My favorite title is The Necronomnomnom

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 10:00 AM (kpS4V)

189 177 I read a book called A Bite-Sized History of France, but I put it down a few times because it was so disgustingly political, and contemptuous of everything to the right of Rabelais. There were gratuitous shots at everything "right wing," and not a whit of criticism of the excesses of the left.

I would have bought a copy had the authors been less barking-mad commies, and more interested in just telling the history of food in France!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (iERP6)

I shoulda wrote a cookbook.

Posted by: Frederic Bastiat at June 07, 2026 10:01 AM (T6aVk)

190 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2026 09:57 AM (iERP6)

I like we call the various proteins we eat by a variation of the French word because the Normans conquered England. All except Fish which sounds like poison in French.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:01 AM (GseMx)

191 On topic - I received Max Miller's "Tasting History" cookbook for Christmas. I've skimmed it but haven't read it cover-to-cover yet. I do enjoy his YouTube channel. He did a series on the Titanic which I found interesting, as well as a series on cooking during wartime shortages (may be useful information someday).

I finally started re-reading The Camp of the Saints, this time the 2025 Vauban edition translated by Ethan Randell. Jean Raspail apparently released three different editions of CotS, and this one omits some of the scenes that had become outdated by the 2000s. The man was either a prophet or had keys to a time machine.

Posted by: PabloD at June 07, 2026 10:02 AM (K1RVP)

192 Sharkman,
Sooner or later I expect to dip into Galaxy's Edge.
However it will be in publication order as required.
(Fictional future sci-fi universe)
Chronological order would be acceptable for a historical series.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 07, 2026 10:02 AM (KaHlS)

193 The first Nero Wolfe book I read, "The Golden Spiders," opens with Wolfe in a snit because Fritz tried something different with starlings they received once a year from a farmer in upstate New York.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 07, 2026 10:02 AM (tIPDA)

194 If memory serves, his kid is probably out of the house, which is one of the classic Danger Zones for modern marriages. Sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)

Yeah, Nat is out on her own in Boston. Has a career in advertising.

He bitched a couple weeks ago about the wife complaining he had an easy life. She's a high powered attorney, he was just a guy who wrote stuff....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z)

195 My mother had a few cookbooks on the shelves at home. Of much more interest to me was the section in one on "Cocktails." Sadly, we never had the ingredients to make Manhattans or anything above a basic whiskey-and-water highball.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:03 AM (wzUl9)

196 Squabs are pre-flight pigeons. They are removed from the nest or perch before they can fly.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 10:04 AM (rj6Yv)

197 They had scenes of the crew eating a few times on Star Trek .

I also liked the class warfare menu in the movie Passengers.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:04 AM (GseMx)

198 > "Garnish with weevils."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 07, 2026 09:16 AM (ndZc7)

Place meat in a wooden cask along with fifty pounds of salt, then send it on round trips to the West Indies by sailing ship until done (approximately 3-5 years, or when dysentery develops after trying a small sample).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 07, 2026 10:05 AM (IG3/x)

199 The first Nero Wolfe book I read, "The Golden Spiders," opens with Wolfe in a snit because Fritz tried something different with starlings they received once a year from a farmer in upstate New York.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 07, 2026


***
Right! That was the one Tim Hutton and his producers used as the first episode of the A & E series back in the late '90s. GS has actual action scenes in it -- fairly rare in Stout's intellectual brand of mystery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:05 AM (wzUl9)

200 146 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?
#####
Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: To Serve Man at June 07, 2026 10:05 AM (CJnkZ)

201 Please don't tell me they have a centerfold . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

LOL. No, but they have beautiful back covers suitable for framing.

Posted by: Tuna at June 07, 2026 10:06 AM (lJ0H4)

202 My favorite title is The Necronomnomnom
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 10:00 AM (kpS4V)

*snort

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 10:06 AM (h7ZuX)

203 They had scenes of the crew eating a few times on Star Trek .

I also liked the class warfare menu in the movie Passengers.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026


***
"What's this? Green leaves?"

"Dr. McCoy ordered your diet card changed, sir. I thought you knew."

"Bring some for the doctor, too."

"Oh, no. I never eat until the *crew* eats."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)

204
My favorite title is The Necronomnomnom
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 10:00 AM (kpS4V)

I can't get over Cryptonomicon having 10 pages dedicated to how to properly prepare and eat Cap'n Crunch cereal.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 07, 2026 10:06 AM (T6aVk)

205 Charles Spencer's memoir "A Very Private School" reminisces on his hellish years at the boys' school Maidwell back in the 70's. Isolated, with family contact limited to a letter home written every Sunday under the watchful eyes of teachers, the students were subject to the whims of bullies and sexual sadists. "This, while being molded into end products that were not only damaged but outmoded, even back then."

I kept thinking of another Spencer, Winston Churchill, whose headmaster at St. George's flogged boys so viciously that the walls of his study were flecked with blood.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (kpS4V)

206 I like we call the various proteins we eat by a variation of the French word because the Normans conquered England. All except Fish which sounds like poison in French.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:01 AM (GseMx)

The French word for fish is puse'.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (g8Ew8)

207 But man...close to $30 for a Kindle book, though. I'll have to think that one over. Academy of Outcasts is on Kindle Unlimited.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Ask your local library to get a copy. There's usually a form.
Most libraries wont get Correia books because he's so actively anti-woke, but if you request they have to justify saying no, and may find it easier to buy it.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (LmPA0)

208 He bitched a couple weeks ago about the wife complaining he had an easy life. She's a high powered attorney, he was just a guy who wrote stuff....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z)
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Wife out-earning/working husband? Another huge red flag.

Almost always fatal to a marriage.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (ZOv7s)

209 There are several Star Wars cookbooks out there...

Not a new thing. I have a couple of reproduction Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind cookbooks from the 30s.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (qRla/)

210 I really can't find my reading glasses, its not that I absolutely need them, its just better.

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2026 10:08 AM (Ia/+0)

211 I like we call the various proteins we eat by a variation of the French word because the Normans conquered England. All except Fish which sounds like poison in French.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:01 AM (GseMx)

Meat

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 07, 2026 10:08 AM (T6aVk)

212 Had to step out for a bit, sorry...

I really wasn't getting it, at first. I don't know what I expected. I finally realized it is an examination of faith and how it carries humanity through all the things humanity does to itself. I think I'll probably re-read it soon.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 09:37 AM (h7ZuX)


I've read it a number of times and no matter how hard I try, I keep coming back with a pessimistic view of humanity rather than an optimistic one.

Oh well.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 10:09 AM (/HDaX)

213 There was a discussion of shipboard fare in one of the Hornblower books. The captain's ship is in tropical waters, and one of his lieutenants eats happily of the cooked pork. Hornblower reflects that the fellow must have a strong constitution, to eat salt pork in hot weather.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:09 AM (wzUl9)

214 I like we call the various proteins we eat by a variation of the French word because the Normans conquered England. All except Fish which sounds like poison in French.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:01 AM (GseMx)
*
The French word for fish is puse'.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 07, 2026


***
I thought it was poisson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (wzUl9)

215 Never got around to reading it, but a title I always liked was one from Jack Douglas: The Jewish-Japanese Sex & Cook Book and How to Raise Wolves. Douglas had some nice titles. His autobiography was called A Funny Thing Happened on My Way to the Grave. And then there was one I stumbled over when I was 12 -- My Brother Was an Only Child, which included chapters like "The Boy Who Cried Dinosaur" and "Six G Strings in Search of an Old Violin Named Charlie," all of which I found hilarious. Maybe it helped to be 12?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (q3u5l)

216 Perf, if you're lurking, I sent you an email.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (1Ff7Z)

217 really can't find my reading glasses, its not that I absolutely need them, its just better.
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2026 10:08 AM (Ia/+

You should have socked Burgess Meredith .

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (GseMx)

218 Yes stephenson could do with an editor

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (bXbFr)

219 Charles Spencer's memoir "A Very Private School" reminisces on his hellish years at the boys' school Maidwell back in the 70's. Isolated, with family contact limited to a letter home written every Sunday under the watchful eyes of teachers, the students were subject to the whims of bullies and sexual sadists. "This, while being molded into end products that were not only damaged but outmoded, even back then."
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Alec Waugh's first book, The Loom of Youth, was about his time at Sherbourne and was considers so scandalous that he was kicked out of the alumni society (crucial for networking) and his brother Evelyn barred from attending.

About 15 years later, in Goodbye to All That, Robert Graves observed that the boarding school system seemed designed to create homosexuals.

The purpose of a thing is what it does.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

220 188 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?
...
There are many themed and tie-in cookbooks out there geared toward the fantasy/SF crowd.
....
My favorite title is The Necronomnomnom

Veganomicon, real book, real Fast, real FEAR!

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (+U3bF)

221 The French word for fish is puse'.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 07, 2026

ISWYDT. I think.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:11 AM (GseMx)

222 146 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

Well, I'm sure there a Klingon bookbook out there, if you're interested in eating 'gagh.' Be warned, there isn't much 'cooking' involved...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 07, 2026 10:12 AM (3v7ra)

223 Never got around to reading it, but a title I always liked was one from Jack Douglas: The Jewish-Japanese Sex & Cook Book and How to Raise Wolves. Douglas had some nice titles. His autobiography was called A Funny Thing Happened on My Way to the Grave. And then there was one I stumbled over when I was 12 -- My Brother Was an Only Child, which included chapters like "The Boy Who Cried Dinosaur" and "Six G Strings in Search of an Old Violin Named Charlie," all of which I found hilarious. Maybe it helped to be 12?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026


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Was that the Jack Douglas who, with his Japanese wife, was *always* guesting on Merv Griffin (the old Westinghouse show)?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:12 AM (wzUl9)

224 Speaking of food, I just remembered that I need to bake a cake this morning. It's a little treat for the kiddo since she just wrapped up her junior year. Strange to think that we're going to be empty nesters in the fall of 2027.

Posted by: PabloD at June 07, 2026 10:12 AM (K1RVP)

225 I thought it was poisson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


That is correct.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2026 10:13 AM (0U5gm)

226 I've read it a number of times and no matter how hard I try, I keep coming back with a pessimistic view of humanity rather than an optimistic one.

Oh well.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 07, 2026 10:09 AM (/HDaX)

So, you focused on the things humanity does to itself. Heh.

I kept expecting various bishops to be power-hungry and acting in self-serving interest, but they kept just wanting what was best. I must have been expecting the conflict and diabolical tendencies of modern Rome.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 10:13 AM (h7ZuX)

227 Speaking of food, I just remembered that I need to bake a cake this morning.
Posted by: PabloD at June 07, 2026 10:12 AM (K1RVP)
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Don't leave it out in the rain.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

228 About 15 years later, in Goodbye to All That, Robert Graves observed that the boarding school system seemed designed to create homosexuals.

The purpose of a thing is what it does.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

A philosophy happily adopted by the American Public School System.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 07, 2026 10:14 AM (g8Ew8)

229 What I recall of A Canticle for Leibowitz is that it has a little welcome humor -- it's not all grim and post-apocalyptic. It is that, but not all of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9)

230 Interesting painting.

He's eating tangerines (or oranges). Two on the plate, closest to the "lady". One, peeled and half-eaten in front of him. She has orangey hair, and her breastworks are orange. She is also wearing an orange sash and a dress with orange stitching. I suspect the approving fellow facing the viewer is the artist's self-portrait.

Orange.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM (rj6Yv)

231 The same way I recall To Kill a Mockingbird too is that it has some welcome humor. Reviews of it never mention that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

232 Well, I'm sure there a Klingon bookbook out there, if you're interested in eating 'gagh.' Be warned, there isn't much 'cooking' involved...
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 07, 2026 10:12 AM (3v7ra)
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One of the concepts I enjoyed from Babylon 5 was the 'fact' that every sentient race makes a form of Swedish meatballs. I believe the Narn called them "spoo".

I also liked the way the various races told ethnic jokes about each other.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:16 AM (ZOv7s)

233 If I remember right (and it's been a while), when Churchill was about to graduate from Sandhurst, he wanted to join a cavalry regiment. His father wanted him to join Duke Hyphen-Hyphen Blueblood's regiment instead.

Winnie's exam scores were such that he wasn't qualified for the Upperclass Twit's Own Dining Club, but was still qualified for the cavalry. Amazing coincidence, eh?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 07, 2026 10:16 AM (IG3/x)

234 The more I read Sister Wendy the more I think 20th century art blew chunks with very few exceptions.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:16 AM (GseMx)

235 Wolfus,

Yep, that was the Douglas. I think he's out of print now. In the late 70s or early 80s Pocket Books reprinted a bunch of his stuff but I don't think his books are currently available. Haven't checked for Kindle editions.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 10:16 AM (q3u5l)

236 In line with comment 10, I've been rereading my old copy of Louis L'Amour's Education of a Wandering Man. It's part autobiography but mostly about how reading and his approach to education shaped his life. The back of the book shows a list, year by year during the 1930s, of what he read. He might have been on tramp steamers, guarding a mine or just waiting in various lines. The variety is staggering. He considered what he was reading to be worth keeping track of, long before he became a writer.

I recall that in several of his westerns he talks about the books pioneers took with them or kept at their ranch. Space and weight in traveling were at a premium so they had be judicious about the books they carried and focused on fundamental books, history and classic literature. Also, that the books were treasured.

His opinions about how education should work would benefit society today on many levels. I suspect if he wrote a book about a school board or teachers union, they would have been the villains.

Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2026 10:16 AM (yTvNw)

237 I really hope he gets back to MHI soon.

He left that series on a rather significant cliffhanger.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2026 09:44 AM (gnNyN)

Agreed. Maybe I should remind him on Twitter next time he teases GRR Martin for being unable to finish a series, not that I have any sympathy for Martin.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 07, 2026 10:17 AM (lFFaq)

238 The same way I recall To Kill a Mockingbird too is that it has some welcome humor. Reviews of it never mention that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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One of the virtues of the book is that it is well written. The style is very Southern, and that adds a lot to the experience of reading.

Nothing makes me quit a book faster than terrible writing style. Stephen King is my paragon for this. Don't care about his stories, his writing to me is like fingernails and a blackboard.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

239 The Word is eternal even though the vessels may be weak

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 07, 2026 10:18 AM (bXbFr)

240 Nothing makes me quit a book faster than terrible writing style. Stephen King is my paragon for this. Don't care about his stories, his writing to me is like fingernails and a blackboard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 07, 2026 10:19 AM (g8Ew8)

241 Yep, that was the Douglas. I think he's out of print now. In the late 70s or early 80s Pocket Books reprinted a bunch of his stuff but I don't think his books are currently available. Haven't checked for Kindle editions.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026


***
I hope his writing is better than his guesting persona. At age 13, I was already forming opinions on entertainment (and much too pleased with myself for doing so), and I thought he and Reiko (?) were dull.

Pocket Books used to produce quite a lot of stuff. I fondly recall their 2001 Insults for All Occasions, which gave me a lifelong appreciation for the smart crack and the pun.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:19 AM (wzUl9)

242 June 25th will be the 150th anniversary of the Battle of the Little Bighorn. If you want to learn about the battle, the life of George A. Custer before the battle, along with the lives of notable 7th Cavalry officers, Sioux, and Cheyenne before and after the battle, I highly recommend "Son of the Morning Star," by Evan S. Connell.

It is not a dry military history. The book supplies many large and small details about Custer's life and mid-19th Century life on the Central Plains for both whites and Indians. It is very readable.

It is largely based upon, and provides quotes from, first-person sources on both sides. Connell provides their takes on the battle and many other events, often contradictory. Illustrating how different people will recall large and small events differently. Some no doubt shading their accounts to make them look good or others look bad.

Posted by: Gref at June 07, 2026 10:20 AM (5rh/l)

243 Not a new thing. I have a couple of reproduction Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind cookbooks from the 30s.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (qRla/)


I can hardly ... Oz recipe. Scarecow's sour apple fritters (he's vegetarian). Tin Woodman's monkey liver pudding? Munchkin yellow lemon marmalade?

Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 10:20 AM (adGdA)

244 The same way I recall To Kill a Mockingbird too is that it has some welcome humor. Reviews of it never mention that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

That was probably Truman Capote's influence. I do wonder how true the rumors were that he helped her write it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:21 AM (GseMx)

245 >He's eating tangerines (or oranges). Two on the plate, closest to the "lady". One, peeled and half-eaten in front of him. She has orangey hair, and her breastworks are orange. She is also wearing an orange sash and a dress with orange stitching. I suspect the approving fellow facing the viewer is the artist's self-portrait.

Orange.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM
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There was a sale on orange paint.
I overbought!

Posted by: Joseh Engelhart at June 07, 2026 10:21 AM (CJnkZ)

246 Query: Why don't we have any Science Fiction cookbooks … ?

That's a VERY underserved market.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 07, 2026 09:50 AM (ayRl+)

Where the hell are you going to find a Sehlat to roast? Helluva long way to Vulcan....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:21 AM (1Ff7Z)

247 The same way I recall To Kill a Mockingbird too is that it has some welcome humor. Reviews of it never mention that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

That was probably Truman Capote's influence. I do wonder how true the rumors were that he helped her write it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026


***
Truman was a witty fellow in real life, but the works of his I've read, aside from his memoirs, were hardly comic. There's some happy humor in "A Christmas Memory," and maybe a few funny lines in Breakfast at Tiffany's (not sure), but they are not strong in that department.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:23 AM (wzUl9)

248 Somerset Maugham at the end of his essay "The Art of Fiction:"

"There is no obligation to read a work of fiction."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 10:23 AM (q3u5l)

249 I've read a couple of books I didn't like because the writing style was very good and effortless to read.

While I've put down books which are well regarded because I just didn't like how the writing style flowed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (GseMx)

250 I've added another book to my "to be read" pile, "The Dog's Gaze, A Visual History" by Thomas W. Laqueur. The "No dogs, not art" people on the art thread would love it. A bit pricey but the cover drew me in.

Posted by: Tuna at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (lJ0H4)

251 Thanks, vmom, both for the tip and for the prayers! I'll shoot OrangeEnt an email sometime this week.
Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at June 07, 2026 09:52 AM (azG9/)

I sent an email to Perf. I'm here now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (1Ff7Z)

252 I had an amusing text from my millennial daughter this week. She asked if I knew Jaws, as in the movie, was a book? She was searching for a new audiobook to listen to and came across it.

I laughed, because of course! We didn't get to go the the movies very often, and all of the kids at school were talking about it, so I had to read it to be able to be in on the conversation.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (h7ZuX)

253
Squabs are pre-flight pigeons. They are removed from the nest or perch before they can fly.
Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2026 10:04 AM (rj6Yv)


Squab is tasty.

When one of the youngsters and I went to Old Blighty, we went to a famous olde restaurant that's been around for a couple of centuries as the big splurge for the trip.

The kiddo had the squab in season, fresh from the hunt and fixed in Ye Olde Fashion though I doubt they aged it till the tail feathers fell out(!).

It was delicious.

I suggest that you eat squab today.

Right now!

Do it!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (iJfKG)

254 > Ask your local library to get a copy.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 07, 2026 10:07 AM (LmPA0)

Hmm... I'll keep an eye out for it. The local library doesn't seem to have a problem stocking Correia... three pages of results in the catalog.

But then this is Alaska, where you can recognize liberals by the fact they don't own anything larger than .357 Magnum.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 07, 2026 10:25 AM (IG3/x)

255 I can hardly ... Oz recipe. Scarecow's sour apple fritters (he's vegetarian). Tin Woodman's monkey liver pudding? Munchkin yellow lemon marmalade?
Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2026 10:20 AM (adGdA)


Some actual recipes:
"Miss Gulch's Sour Cherry Kuchen"
"Talking Trees' Apple Biscuits"
"Cowardly Crudites With Goat Cheese Dip"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 07, 2026 10:25 AM (qRla/)

256 My favorite Truman Capote anecdote:

He was dining at a restaurant, prob. in NYC, when a drunken man wove his way to TC's table and began berating him. "Big-time author! Big shot!", etc. The guy then proceeded to whip out his, er, equipment and snarled: "My wife wants your autograph. Okay, autograph *this*!"

Truman's reply was audible all over the restaurant. "I don't think I can autograph it, but I can initial it. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)

257 Wolfus,

Never saw Douglas on the tube, but some of the stuff in My Brother Was an Only Child was deranged enough to appeal enormously to 12-year-old me. Ran across a copy of that one a little over a decade ago and grabbed it; still funny IMHO, which is either a tribute to Douglas or a comment on my continuing immaturity.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 07, 2026 10:26 AM (q3u5l)

258 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 07, 2026 10:24 AM (h7ZuX)

Did you tell her the book was a little more risqué and the movie changed up the character interactions?

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2026 10:26 AM (GseMx)

259 If you want an easy entertaining read for the summer I just read Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt.. It's about an elderly woman and an Octopus.... Not in the smutty way some of you are imagining... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2026 10:27 AM (FtULh)

260 It is largely based upon, and provides quotes from, first-person sources on both sides. Connell provides their takes on the battle and many other events, often contradictory. Illustrating how different people will recall large and small events differently. Some no doubt shading their accounts to make them look good or others look bad.
Posted by: Gref at June 07, 2026 10:20 AM (5rh/l)
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There has been a lot of revisionist scholarship surrounding WW II tank performance in the past few years. Veterans' recollections are valuable, but often very biased by factors not immediately obvious.

On paper, the Sherman was a mediocre tank and it had its flaws, but it was mechanically very reliable, and while technically inferior to many of its opponents, the vast majority of tank losses did not come from other tanks. The classic duel was a rarity.

A friend read a memoir by a US tank corps officer, and remarked that the number of Tiger tanks the guy claimed to have encountered in 1944-5 exceeded Germany's available inventory.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2026 10:27 AM (ZOv7s)

261 "That's not writing. That's typing."

-- Capote on Kerouac

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 07, 2026 10:28 AM (IG3/x)

262 Re the art featured above: The gentleman directly to the left of the lovely lady leaning over the table looks like he's side eying her rear end.

Posted by: Tuna at June 07, 2026 10:28 AM (lJ0H4)

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