THE MORNING RANT: Election Prediction Markets Are Now Push-Poll Mechanisms, not Gauges of Likely Election Results

Kalshi Prediction Market - GA Supreme Court.png

As Ace wrote about a few days ago, voters in the state of Georgia chose two state Supreme Court justices in Tuesday’s election. Although the “non-partisan” candidates couldn’t identify by a political party, in each race there was a clearly defined conservative and liberal. The conservative candidates won both races. While the big election takeaway is that Georgia is not going to get a “Wisconsin court” that will serve as a left-wing super-legislature, there is another big takeaway - the election prediction markets are now total garbage that should be completely dismissed.

Polymarket and Kalshi are among the biggest “prediction markets,” making it possible to trade/gamble on the likelihood of a specific candidate winning an election. In recent years these prediction markets have been treated as a form of polling. The assumption is that people gambling on election outcomes have their finger on the pulse of the electorate, and that they will rationally put their money on the candidate mostly likely to win.

Apparently these prediction markets were relatively accurate in predicting some prominent races in recent years. But political partisans are not rational, and liberal political obsessives have started putting money on their favored candidates so as to move the prediction market odds in their favor. They somehow believe those distorted odds will become real-world outcomes.

This is analogous to when I was a little child going fishing with my dad, and he told me that when the bobber goes under water it means I’d caught a fish. My little brain soon discovered that if I reeled the line in toward the rocks of the jetty we were fishing from, the bobber would go under water! That must mean I caught a fish! No, I merely had an underwater snag. But every time I snagged my line and the bobber was pulled under water by the resistance against my reeling, I still wanted to believe I had a fish on the line.

The Lightbringer himself, Barack Obama, had involved himself in these Supreme Court races, and left-wing political observers were very excited that trading at Kalshi showed the Supreme Court races to be breaking overwhelmingly in favor of the liberal candidates.

In the race between conservative Sarah Warren and liberal Jen Jordan, Ms. Jordan was maintaining about a 55% odds of winning until a few days before the election, when suddenly the odds broke further in her favor. By election day her odds of winning exceeded 90%. Once upon a time this might have meant that traders could sense the election was breaking Jordan’s way and they were therefore gambling heavily on the likely winner.

But the conservative candidate won. In fact, Sarah Warren crushed Jen Jordan by winning 61% of the vote to Jordan’s 39%. In the other race, won by conservative Charles Bethel, traders at Kalshi had his opponent, Miracle Rankin, as the likely winner at odds exceeding 80%.

At this point, using prediction markets to measure voter sentiment is as worthless as relying on candidate-produced push-polls, whose purpose is to influence voter sentiment, not measure voter sentiment.

When partisans move a betting line in the hope it will affect the election’s outcome, that is like snagging a fishing line so as to pull the bobber under water, and then pronouncing that a fish is about to be reeled in.
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) May 3, 2026

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Other Stuff I’m Writing About

My latest piece at the The American Spectator has been published. “There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles” discusses the preposterous media narrative that Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share.

Volkswagen’s U.S.-made ID.4, an all-electric car, was such a sales flop that when VW became desperate to unload its glut of unsold units, it offered a $99 lease promotion. But even at $99 per month, Americans still found the price to be about $99 too high, as the unsaleable ID.4 became America’s slowest-selling car. If Americans will not drive an electric Volkswagen for $99 per month, there is zero chance they will buy a Chinese EV of dubious quality at any price. (U.S. production of VW’s ID.4 has since been permanently suspended.)

This piece is not behind a paywall. I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.

My latest at the American Spectator: “There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles”

If Americans won’t lease a Volkswagen EV for $99 per month, they’re certainly not clamoring for a BYD hatchback.https://t.co/DIhTssCNOA
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) May 19, 2026

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Hey!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:01 AM (X8xt3)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 22, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

3 I think they realized they could form opinion in news (or were already doing it after Cronkite and the Kennedy-Nixon debate.) And so they went the final rat cage step and decided to TELL you what the opinion was.

And you do not want to be the odd man out, do you?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:01 AM (bss/y)

4 >>My latest at the American Spectator: “There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles”

As long as the US taxpayers aren't subsidizing it!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:01 AM (X8xt3)

5 4 >>My latest at the American Spectator: “There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles”

As long as the US taxpayers aren't subsidizing it!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:01 AM (X8xt3)

The new Yugo! For 2026!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:02 AM (bss/y)

6 All polls, regardless of type, are commissioned by people who have a narrative or agenda they want to push.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 11:03 AM (jehhT)

7 Betting markets have no special knowledge.

They are, at best, second order knowledge based on overall narratives and polling. They're also small markets making them easy to manipulate by people with money and incentive, like campaigns.

And the overall vibes that directly feed into them can be very wrong.

The switch on the Massie primary fight, which happened literally the evening of the election, is the most recent ground zero. It was actually a fairly decently sized market for this sort of thing, and it relied more on Baris' bullshit poll and the online vibe than anything about the actual district.

Honestly, it's just a place to make money against braindead white progressives.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:03 AM (46HP8)

8 Build a speculation market, and there will be speculators manipulating it.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:03 AM (iXqHn)

9 I don't know if it's an "election prediction market" or just a poll, but polls indicate the terrorist sympathizer Muslim is ahead for Congress in NJ. I hope he loses by a large margin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2026 11:03 AM (n3VHW)

10 It's all bots.

Posted by: The person who thinks it's all bots at May 22, 2026 11:04 AM (2Ez/1)

11 >>And so they went the final rat cage step and decided to TELL you what the opinion was.

Hence, the proliferation of articles with titles like "[something is happening] and here's why it's good" and the dreaded rise of "explainer" pieces online.

Just report, that's explanation enough. Skip the BS context you think I need to form the correct opinion, or worse, spoon-feeding me what I should think/feel about this bit of nes.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:04 AM (X8xt3)

12 Yugo, I stall

Posted by: bumpersticker on a yugo at May 22, 2026 11:04 AM (tL5sl)

13 If Americans will not drive an electric Volkswagen for $99 per month, there is zero chance they will buy a Chinese EV of dubious quality at any price.

You're ignoring the important "Americans who wear entire asbestos fire-safety suits" as a market component.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

14 It's my opinion that instead of droning Iran, we should drone Indian call centres

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (tL5sl)

15 Ackshually, they do appear to be predictive. And potentially lucrative, when you bet on the underdog.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Dv3i1)

16 14 It's my opinion that instead of droning Iran, we should drone Indian call centres

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (tL5sl)

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DOJ shut one down in the last few days:

https://x.com/FBIBoston/status/
2057081556913574085

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:06 AM (46HP8)

17 Betting markets have no special knowledge.

They are, at best, second order knowledge based on overall narratives and polling. They're also small markets making them easy to manipulate by people with money and incentive, like campaigns.

And the overall vibes that directly feed into them can be very wrong.

If people could predict the future that well, there'd be a whole lot more people making big money on the stock market.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

18 15 Ackshually, they do appear to be predictive. And potentially lucrative, when you bet on the underdog.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Dv3i1)

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The main driver of them seems to be leftist wishcasting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:06 AM (46HP8)

19 13 You're ignoring the important "Americans who wear entire asbestos fire-safety suits" as a market component.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

RIP, Kyle Busch

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:07 AM (iXqHn)

20 >>It's my opinion that instead of droning Iran, we should drone Indian call centres

This guy gets it.
Foreigners preying on seniors to steal their life savings.
It is despicable.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:07 AM (X8xt3)

21 One of the many absurd events in Catch-22 was the description of the 'bomb line' on the map, Yossarian moving it in the dead of night in the hope of a dangerous mission being canceled, and the resulting telephone game as the news of the army's big advance gets passed up the chain.

These election betting sites seem to have a similar quality.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 22, 2026 11:07 AM (gpQ8/)

22 making them easy to manipulate by people with money and incentive, like campaigns.

~TJM

This people with an agenda will try anything to influence the result they desire.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 22, 2026 11:07 AM (eFzxY)

23 THE MORNING RANT: Election Prediction Markets Are Now Push-Poll Mechanisms, not Gauges of Likely Election Results
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I said God damn the pusherman!

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2026 11:08 AM (Fi81e)

24 LIV (young) men like to vote the winner, and tend to pay attention to gambling market predictions so they know who that is. So, it's the D attempt to sway those male LIV voters.

They spend money on everything else, b/c it's usually taxpayers' money they are throwing away...why not this? It's polling 2026 (since no one pays attention to any other polls anymore)...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 22, 2026 11:08 AM (tOcjL)

25 Just report, that's explanation enough. Skip the BS context you think I need to form the correct opinion, or worse, spoon-feeding me what I should think/feel about this bit of nes.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:04 AM (X8xt3)

'America's fascination with Buddhism!'

'People are going wild for Sushi!'

'Isn't Barack Obama the most manly, dreamy man you've ever seen?!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:08 AM (bss/y)

26 ... the election prediction markets are now total garbage that should be completely dismissed.

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I'm old enough to remember the 2020 POTUS election where Trump was the heavy favorite ... until the "water main burst" in Atlanta and the cessation of vote-counting, after which the word of The Steal went out and the markets switched from Trump to F. Joe Sundowner sooner than you could say "Universal Mail-In Balloting."

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (4LEcr)

27 It's my opinion that instead of droning Iran, we should drone Indian call centres
Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:05 AM (tL5sl)
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Seconded.

Their current tactic is to use AI to initiate the call. Once you answer the AI question, you'll be passed through to "Steve" who will gladly take down your personal information for a new Medicaid benefit you've just received!

I can't even answer my phone anymore.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (gnNyN)

28 In summation: Everything is Fake and Gay.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (oqH4h)

29 we're about to own the town this weekend...everyone else will be at or in the bay

Posted by: DanMan at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (8uzBS)

30 LBJ used the CIA to get intelligence on the Goldwater campaign, whatever Nixon’s faults, he wasn’t doing anything that previous presidents had done before. It was a manufactured controversy in that sense. FDR played hardball against political adversaries. It’s always been that way.

Manipulation of public opinion and politics of personal destruction goes way back. That’s one thing that makes Mr. Trump remarkable, we’ve seen the full weapons system arrayed against him, finely tuned with centuries of experience aligned against him.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (TgO2L)

31 Yay Buck. Off to read your American Spectator post. Best of the HQ.

Posted by: alpine_beer at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (van9r)

32 Who's going to believe polls by a breakfast cereal anyway?

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2026 11:10 AM (Fi81e)

33 >>It's my opinion that instead of droning Iran, we should drone Indian call centres

This is why "The Beekeeper" was such a well-received movie. My 91 year old parents stumbled onto it and loved it -- and they hate violence.

Sure, the bad guy had to be a privileged white guy (Hollywood wokeness), but it was so wonderful to see scammy call centers get burned to the ground -- we could all relate.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:10 AM (X8xt3)

34 Political pundits on WBAP here in Dallas keep shrieking that high gas prices are going to drive Republicans out of power in the House of Representatives. I keep asking, "Who thinks Democrats are the answer to high gas prices?" I would love to hear this argument fleshed out. Still haven't received an answer.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 22, 2026 11:10 AM (X+xvk)

35 ALL polls are manipulated. It's the nature of the human mind and raw statistics. There's so many mathematical variables that can be inserted into the final result.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 22, 2026 11:11 AM (g8Ew8)

36 34 Political pundits on WBAP here in Dallas keep shrieking that high gas prices are going to drive Republicans out of power in the House of Representatives. I keep asking, "Who thinks Democrats are the answer to high gas prices?" I would love to hear this argument fleshed out. Still haven't received an answer.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 22, 2026 11:10 AM (X+xvk)

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Gas prices have shockingly little effect on midterms.

Besides, I keep being assured that months is a lifetime in politics, but that apparently doesn't count for gas prices, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:11 AM (46HP8)

37 'America's fascination with Buddhism!'

'People are going wild for Sushi!'

'Isn't Barack Obama the most manly, dreamy man you've ever seen?!'

This vaguely sexual silicone object has gone viral! Get yours before they're gone!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

38 Good article. Thanks.

I think of it as basically buying a poll result if you have the cash. If you have a million to blow, your candidate gets a chance to tout the results.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 22, 2026 11:12 AM (Sco7b)

39 LBJ used the CIA to get intelligence on the Goldwater campaign, whatever Nixon’s faults, he wasn’t doing anything that previous presidents had done before. It was a manufactured controversy in that sense. FDR played hardball against political adversaries. It’s always been that way.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (TgO2L)
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That's pretty obvious. The main problem was the Presidential power "had fallen into Republican hands".

It's now been unclassified that JFK--just as Nixon had indicated--had wiretapped a bunch of people.

Trump ain't the first Republican president to get the DC treatment.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2026 11:12 AM (Fi81e)

40 ...Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share.

BwHahahaha!!!!

Oh stop it. You're killin' me here.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 22, 2026 11:13 AM (2WIwB)

41 ...Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share.

BwHahahaha!!!!

Oh stop it. You're killin' me here.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 22, 2026 11:13 AM (2WIwB)
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That's my line.

Posted by: Julius Caesar at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (Fi81e)

42 Seconded.

Their current tactic is to use AI to initiate the call. Once you answer the AI question, you'll be passed through to "Steve" who will gladly take down your personal information for a new Medicaid benefit you've just received!

I can't even answer my phone anymore.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2026 11:09 AM (gnNyN)

I would never answer the phone. I'd have folks I care about email/text me if they want a chat and then we can plan a call (on Discord for video calling), and I'd let EVERYTHING go to voice mail. Most of these places will not leave a voice mail.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (tOcjL)

43 ...Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share.

BwHahahaha!!!!

Oh stop it. You're killin' me here.

TBF, people said the same thing about Japanese "rice-burners" until just before they took over the market.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

44 40 Oh stop it. You're killin' me here.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 22, 2026 11:13 AM (2WIwB)

No, that's just the chemical fire from the Battery exploding.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (iXqHn)

45 For being socialists, it seems lefties have tons of money to waste on magical thinking stupid hobbies.

Posted by: Martin Tell at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (sFNX2)

46 'Isn't Barack Obama the most manly, dreamy man you've ever seen?!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:08 AM (bss/y)

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'Isn't Michelle Obama the most manly, dreamy man you've ever seen?!'

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (4LEcr)

47 Gas prices have shockingly little effect on midterms.

Besides, I keep being assured that months is a lifetime in politics, but that apparently doesn't count for gas prices, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:11 AM (46HP

I mostly, when filling up the Mustang- can pass anything but a gas station- just do the initial math in my head and go 'OH, this is gonna hurt.' And that is with a 16 gal tank. The guys with 30 gal truck tanks, my heart goes out to you for that colonoscopy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (bss/y)

48 In other news: Some car, did something....

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (Fi81e)

49 42 I would never answer the phone. I'd have folks I care about email/text me if they want a chat and then we can plan a call (on Discord for video calling), and I'd let EVERYTHING go to voice mail. Most of these places will not leave a voice mail.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (tOcjL)

But what about your car's extended warranty?

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (iXqHn)

50 > Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share.
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Isn't Canada toying with importing Chinese cars (not necessarily EV's) for domestic consumption? I thought I read something about that a while ago. UAW was not happy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (jehhT)

51 >> 'America's fascination with Buddhism!'

'People are going wild for Sushi!'
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'Why Caitlyn Clark's White Privilege is Bad for the WNBA'

'You will own nothing, have no privacy, and love it'

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (X8xt3)

52 Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs

1200 pounds of chinesium lithium batteries plus chinesium frame rails and chinesium engineering? Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Chuck C at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (D0HYP)

53 'Isn't Barack Obama the most manly, dreamy man you've ever seen?!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Living with a prolapsed rectum - see how this San Francisco Gay Men's Collective is turning what used to be thought of a shameful setback into a new mark of Pride!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Dv3i1)

54 Isn't Canada toying with importing Chinese cars (not necessarily EV's) for domestic consumption? I thought I read something about that a while ago. UAW was not happy.

Can't they all lose?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

55 few things make me happier than seeing Errick Errickson continue to be wrong about GA.

Especially as he keeps holding himself out as some sort of expert on GA politics.

not too many people have been pissing their pants more than him over the GOPe wipeouts.

He is absolutely determined to go down to the ocean floor with the Kemp/Ratshitburger/Sterling ship.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:17 AM (73/SM)

56 For being socialists, it seems lefties have tons of money to waste on magical thinking stupid hobbies.

Posted by: Martin Tell at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (sFNX2)

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[To reprise my comment from a couple days ago regarding most Leftist Multi-Billionaires:]

Capitalism produces the best communists.

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:18 AM (4LEcr)

57 "Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share."

If they could sell one with "good ratings" for $10k, I'd be tempted. Need to use my solar panels more fully. But it might be hard to find real ratings, not scam ratings originating in China.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2026 11:18 AM (vbXSk)

58 Thx Buck
I remember the poll from the "well respected" woman pollster in Iowa who said Trump was going to lose Iowa in 24. Turns out her company had been bought out and a different methodology was used. I had bet someone that Trump would win by 10. Won the bet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 22, 2026 11:19 AM (gu0hJ)

59
I would never answer the phone. I'd have folks I care about email/text me if they want a chat and then we can plan a call (on Discord for video calling), and I'd let EVERYTHING go to voice mail. Most of these places will not leave a voice mail.
Posted by: Nova Local

I only answer the phone if it's Smash, Junior-ette, or my boss. Everybody else can leave a voice mail. I make most people send me their # in an e-mail, then I white list it so the phone doesn't auto-ban them when they ring. I probably auto-banned over a hundred political call centers in the last three weeks.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (QVmho)

60 'Why Caitlyn Clark's White Privilege is Bad for the WNBA'

'You will own nothing, have no privacy, and love it'

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (X8xt3)

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"You WILL eat ze bugs!"

/Go long crickets ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (4LEcr)

61 .5% of Polymarket accounts take 67% of the winnings.

There is something fundamentally broken there.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (sKqQm)

62 TBF, people said the same thing about Japanese "rice-burners" until just before they took over the market.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

BUT, there is a huge difference between Japan and Chinese goods- Japan is absolutely FANATICAL (one might even say Kamikazi) about QUALITY.

Example: Seating for Lexus when I first started in the auto industry had a large mechanical component built IN Japan. 999 times out of a thousand we never had a problem. IF on the very rare occasion we did, the supplier asked that the entire rack of parts be shipped back to them at their expense. And I know what they did with it. They stripped the rack down, found the issue and then got the guy who made it and showed it to him. And he felt SHAME. I've seen it happen. Not a 'positive failure' culture.

The Chinese are NOT like that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y)

63 55 few things make me happier than seeing Errick Errickson continue to be wrong about GA.

Especially as he keeps holding himself out as some sort of expert on GA politics.

not too many people have been pissing their pants more than him over the GOPe wipeouts.

He is absolutely determined to go down to the ocean floor with the Kemp/Ratshitburger/Sterling ship.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:17 AM (73/SM)

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The black vote percentage of GA's electorate shrinks a little bit more every cycle because the baby bust for blacks started a lot longer ago than the baby bust for white progressives, and the younger blacks vote at a lot lower rates than older blacks, and the older blacks, the Civil Rights Era, are dying like flies now because they're real old.

A senate race should also help pick up turnout in the rurals.

Governor should be likely Republican. Senator might be tossup (because of Ossoff's incumbency), but I think it's actually lean Republican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (46HP8)

64 Yay, Friday Buck!

We do need common sense bobber control, though.

Posted by: Gadabout Gaddis, The Flying Fisherman. at May 22, 2026 11:21 AM (oftw2)

65 58 Thx Buck
I remember the poll from the "well respected" woman pollster in Iowa who said Trump was going to lose Iowa in 24. Turns out her company had been bought out and a different methodology was used. I had bet someone that Trump would win by 10. Won the bet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 22, 2026 11:19 AM (gu0hJ)

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Selzer didn't sell out to anyone.

She was still working for the same newspaper as always.

She just intentionally threw out a terrible result because she wanted it to be true. It was so bad that she retired from polling right afterwards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:21 AM (46HP8)

66 'Why Caitlyn Clark's White Privilege is Bad for the WNBA'

I ran across some videos of her recently.

It looks like one short NBA player with 9 relatively tall junior HS players on the court with her.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:21 AM (sKqQm)

67 45 For being socialists, it seems lefties have tons of money to waste on magical thinking stupid hobbies.
Posted by: Martin Tell at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (sFNX2)

That's what they're aiming for. They'll all be rich in their dachas while everyone they hate will be working 23 hours a day in the Labor Camps.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:21 AM (uEmCf)

68 TBF, people said the same thing about Japanese "rice-burners" until just before they took over the market.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

BUT, there is a huge difference between Japan and Chinese goods- Japan is absolutely FANATICAL (one might even say Kamikazi) about QUALITY.

You are correct, sir!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

69 She just intentionally threw out a terrible result because she wanted it to be true. It was so bad that she retired from polling right afterwards.

Didn't she eventually admit it too?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (sKqQm)

70 >>Aside from Americans’ general preference for vehicle size, those who do purchase small, inexpensive cars in the U.S. are demographically not good candidates for EV ownership. Small car buyers in the U.S. tend to be less affluent and somewhat transient, whereas EV-ownership almost necessitates that at-home charging is possible. The demographic that can charge an EV at home is homeowners and luxury condo dwellers, but this is also the demographic that buys Tesla and other luxury marques, not cheap cars.

Well said!

Small cars are city cars, and our progressive city planners are doing everything they can to make car ownership a PITA, such as no longer requiring developers to include parking for their high-density housing and 'traffic calming' measures that turn entire lanes of usable (necessary) road into bicycle lanes.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (X8xt3)

71 I find it darkly amusing that I have become 'counter-cultural' and I have to keep my subversive opinions to myself, due to my disapproval of legal gambling, decriminalized drug use, visible tattoos, facial piercings, vagrancy, decarceration, and welfare. I feel like a nearly lone prophet of doom, preaching against "prediction markets" and sports betting, as the grim plague of gambling has exploded across the land like a virulent STI in a gay clique.

Posted by: SciVo at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Sy6m/)

72
TBF, people said the same thing about Japanese "rice-burners" until just before they took over the market.
Posted by: Archimedes

Honda makes motorbikes. Who would ever buy a Honda car??

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Cqx++)

73 Sometimes the 20-1 horse wins the race. But usually the 3-1 horse wins.

Thats how Kalshi works. You can always find examples where a candidate was at 30% and week out and won. But most of the time, the candidate at 70% wins. 30% is not 0%. So it will happen sometimes.

The in between stuff like 58% Brown example is basically a coin toss.

Posted by: Heroq at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (9Diqw)

74 69 She just intentionally threw out a terrible result because she wanted it to be true. It was so bad that she retired from polling right afterwards.

Didn't she eventually admit it too?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (sKqQm)

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I seem to remember that she keeps defending it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:23 AM (46HP8)

75 The black vote percentage of GA's electorate shrinks a little bit more every cycle because the baby bust for blacks started a lot longer ago than the baby bust for white progressives, and the younger blacks vote at a lot lower rates than older blacks, and the older blacks, the Civil Rights Era, are dying like flies now because they're real old.

However, it's worth noting that Hispanics now comprise 12% of GA's population. I don't know how many of those are eligible to vote, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

76 Humans are herd animals. Propaganda has many components, but one application is to try and get the enemy to believe he is vastly outnumbered.

Published polling historically has been used to great effect this way. Your fellow citizens by huge margins believe “X”, you on the other hand believe “Y”, and you are on the fringe with your extremist hateful views. All the Good People believe the Good Things.

What is wrong with you??

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (TgO2L)

77 63 The black vote percentage of GA's electorate shrinks a little bit more every cycle because the baby bust for blacks started a lot longer ago than the baby bust for white progressives, and the younger blacks vote at a lot lower rates than older blacks, and the older blacks, the Civil Rights Era, are dying like flies now because they're real old.

A senate race should also help pick up turnout in the rurals.

Governor should be likely Republican. Senator might be tossup (because of Ossoff's incumbency), but I think it's actually lean Republican.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:20 AM (46HP

Georgia, home of one of the most pathetic LOLcows one can find, Autumn "Salem" Neville.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (uEmCf)

78
The guys with 30 gal truck tanks, my heart goes out to you for that colonoscopy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

'26 model 3500 Bighorn dually. 50 gallon tank with diesel hovering around $5.00. I fill it when I burn about 23 gallons so I don't have to run my debit card twice at the pump. It sux. Billy. So I ride the motorcycle more often at $4.30 for the ethanol free high octane gas at 38mpg. Which also sux, because now I statistically more exposed to some jack wagon surfing their phone killing me.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (QVmho)

79 75 However, it's worth noting that Hispanics now comprise 12% of GA's population. I don't know how many of those are eligible to vote, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

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Losing the 90% electorate and replacing it with the 40% electorate is no replacement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (46HP8)

80 It’s not always liberal money moving markets. In 2022 GOP was at 90% to win the senate. And we all know what happened.

Posted by: Heroq at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (9Diqw)

81 I am still pondering one of the reddit comments posted in the last chat to the effect that Trump is literally Hitler and wants to send "immigrants" to literal death camps

Ok. Let's accept that as true. So that means there are 0 illegals now right? Or...could you imagine Jews trying to sneak INTO Germany in the 40s because they'd get Hitlercare and Hitlerphones?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:25 AM (sKqQm)

82 Honda makes motorbikes. Who would ever buy a Honda car??
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Cqx++)

Buddy had a Honda Prelude(?) in the 90s. Sporty looking car. Never had any problems with it until he wrecked it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:25 AM (bss/y)

83 I remember the poll from the "well respected" woman pollster in Iowa who said Trump was going to lose Iowa in 24. Turns out her company had been bought out and a different methodology was used. I had bet someone that Trump would win by 10. Won the bet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 22, 2026 11:19 AM

And she "retired" after the election and her company quit doing political polling even though she continued to defend that poll.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2026 11:25 AM (0N4FZ)

84 '26 model 3500 Bighorn dually. 50 gallon tank with diesel hovering around $5.00. I fill it when I burn about 23 gallons so I don't have to run my debit card twice at the pump. It sux. Billy. So I ride the motorcycle more often at $4.30 for the ethanol free high octane gas at 38mpg. Which also sux, because now I statistically more exposed to some jack wagon surfing their phone killing me.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 22, 2026 11:24 AM (QVmho)

Ouch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:26 AM (bss/y)

85 >>She just intentionally threw out a terrible result because she wanted it to be true. It was so bad that she retired from polling right afterwards.

It has long been my suspicion that polls are intentionally skewed so that election fraud is not surprising. If a GOP candidate is 15% in the polls, then election shenanigans that put the Dem candidate ahead would look suspicious.

I see it as a 'tell' that there will be fraud (as with that gal's obviously false poll) as well as an attempt to manufacture belief that the Dem win is inevitable.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:26 AM (X8xt3)

86 Lots of GOPe folks were issuing dire warnings last week that the early vote for the Dems in the GA supreme court case were proof--proof!--that the Republicans were going to lose in November.

"they're so far ahead! this is just like 2020!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:27 AM (73/SM)

87 The Ohio Republican Party nominated for governor a guy who wants to replace American workers with H-Visa foreigners, which decidedly disadvantages all other Republicans running in Ohio.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 22, 2026 11:27 AM (jBLYG)

88 It has long been my suspicion that polls are intentionally skewed so that election fraud is not surprising. If a GOP candidate is 15% in the polls, then election shenanigans that put the Dem candidate ahead would look suspicious.

I see it as a 'tell' that there will be fraud (as with that gal's obviously false poll) as well as an attempt to manufacture belief that the Dem win is inevitable.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:26 AM (X8xt3)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:27 AM (bss/y)

89 76 Humans are herd animals. Propaganda has many components, but one application is to try and get the enemy to believe he is vastly outnumbered.

Published polling historically has been used to great effect this way. Your fellow citizens by huge margins believe “X”, you on the other hand believe “Y”, and you are on the fringe with your extremist hateful views. All the Good People believe the Good Things.

What is wrong with you??

This is the theme of several of Spencer Pratt's newest ads (well, whomever made them). People are sitting around talking, and bit by bit, it becomes apparent that they're all voting Pratt, but were afraid to say so due to social ostracism.

It's powerful stuff. Will he win? Probably not, but maybe.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

90 49 42 I would never answer the phone. I'd have folks I care about email/text me if they want a chat and then we can plan a call (on Discord for video calling), and I'd let EVERYTHING go to voice mail. Most of these places will not leave a voice mail.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 22, 2026 11:15 AM (tOcjL)

But what about your car's extended warranty?
Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:16 AM (iXqHn)

No point, I already gave it to KARS-4-KIDZ

Posted by: Saving myself from myself at May 22, 2026 11:28 AM (TbWk/)

91 85 It has long been my suspicion that polls are intentionally skewed so that election fraud is not surprising. If a GOP candidate is 15% in the polls, then election shenanigans that put the Dem candidate ahead would look suspicious.

I see it as a 'tell' that there will be fraud (as with that gal's obviously false poll) as well as an attempt to manufacture belief that the Dem win is inevitable.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:26 AM (X8xt3)

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The main game of polling is the "September tightening".

Two person race, you can say literally anything for more than a year. And then, "the electorate starts paying attention," and you throw out random numbers between 45 and 55 because the final result of anything remotely competitive is going to be between 47-53 points, so the 45-55 numbers are always within or close to the MoE.

And then you can say that Quinnipac, or whatever, that got kind of close in the last poll, is always right even though their year of polls before were wildly different from the last one.

Anyone who compares a Spring poll to a final result poll is either a retard or a liar. Mostly, it's retards, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:29 AM (46HP8)

92 anybody that has to use a Phillips head screw made in China knows China doesn't do decent metal

Posted by: DanMan at May 22, 2026 11:29 AM (8uzBS)

93 Anyone who compares a Spring poll to a final result poll is either a retard or a liar. Mostly, it's retards, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:29 AM (46HP

Never bet against retard.

Posted by: Simple Jack at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (bss/y)

94 It has long been my suspicion that polls are intentionally skewed so that election fraud is not surprising. If a GOP candidate is 15% in the polls, then election shenanigans that put the Dem candidate ahead would look suspicious.

I see it as a 'tell' that there will be fraud (as with that gal's obviously false poll) as well as an attempt to manufacture belief that the Dem win is inevitable.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 22, 2026 11:26 AM (X8xt3)

Are you suggesting that polling may be, ahem, fake and gay?

Posted by: I shan't believe it at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (TbWk/)

95 The switch on the Massie primary fight, which happened literally the evening of the election, is the most recent ground zero. It was actually a fairly decently sized market for this sort of thing, and it relied more on Baris' bullshit poll and the online vibe than anything about the actual district.
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LOL at Robert Barnes betting $10k that Massie would win.
Then blocking anyone who took him up on that bet.
And telling his readers no one took him up.
While now going quadruple-or-nothing on the Rs will lose the House, the Senate and several governor seats in November.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (73/SM)

96 The market for EVs in the US is already saturated. Anyone that wants one has one or is buying a Tesla.

The rest of them are shittier versions of "regular" cars.

Nobody is going to buy some Chinesium POS that's as likely to burn their house down as it is to get them from Point A to Point B.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (oqH4h)

97 It's powerful stuff. Will he win? Probably not, but maybe.

A point to consider - objectively Bass should have retired after the fires. It used to be pols were afraid of screwing up that badly. And the party would be there to force the issue too.

But...no fear here whatsoever.

So I think Pratt will win the votes of actual citizens and still lose. It will be close...but they will produce however many votes Bass needs to win

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (sKqQm)

98 92 anybody that has to use a Phillips head screw made in China knows China doesn't do decent metal
Posted by: DanMan at May 22, 2026 11:29 AM (8uzBS)

And the sad thing is: their export qc is FAR better than their domestic!

Those poor, commie bastards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (bss/y)

99 87 The Ohio Republican Party nominated for governor a guy who wants to replace American workers with H-Visa foreigners, which decidedly disadvantages all other Republicans running in Ohio.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 22, 2026 11:27 AM (jBLYG)

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Governor's races have a habit of being far less directly partisan than federal statewide races (Romney in MA, Hogan in MD, Stein in NC). The senate race will probably see the GOPer running a few points ahead of Vivek, but Acton is such a fucking nightmare that Vivek probably pulls it off.

Because Vivek, as governor, would have no say on H1-B policy since that's a federal matter, and any emphasis on bringing in Indians he could do Acton would also do in addition to trying to bring in everyone else at the same time (while also having the history of being ground zero of the worst Ohio COVID policies).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (46HP8)

100 The only hatchback I might consider nowadays is in the back of my BVDs when I eat something that doesn't agree with me.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (qx7Zg)

101 But...no fear here whatsoever.

So I think Pratt will win the votes of actual citizens and still lose. It will be close...but they will produce however many votes Bass needs to win
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (sKqQm)

Yeah, she functions as if she is untouchable. Now she could just be that fucking stupid. Ok she is that fucking stupid, but I think they also have their finger on the scales in california so heavily that none of these guys will win.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (bss/y)

102 News feeds are crap. One of mine is Fox and #1, the top of the list is about Kevin Dillnigtoe from MSNow challenging Patel's, FBI stats. Instead of a story dealing with the voracity of Dilligtoe's statements it', basically, a puf piece on Kevin. In other words it's a waste, garbage, unworthy, time wasting article.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (LIEok)

103
I have to keep my subversive opinions to myself, due to my disapproval of legal gambling, decriminalized drug use, visible tattoos, facial piercings, vagrancy, decarceration, and welfare. I feel like a nearly lone prophet of doom, preaching against "prediction markets" and sports betting, as the grim plague of gambling has exploded across the land like a virulent STI in a gay clique.

Posted by: SciVo at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Sy6m/)

___________

It's one thing to go to the horse track or take an occasional flutter on a lotto ticket, but that's really just entertainment.

It's habitual and heavy gambling that's corrosive. And, once again, who are the most susceptible? Those who can least afford it. Just like all the other vices you named, it's been normalized by the people who scream loudest about caring for the poor.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (HdYcL)

104 There was a book by Bob Shaw where the deranged genius was attempting to create a "truth machine" by backwards engineering the standard polygraph test, suppressing the ability to lie by preventing a skin galvanic response by suppressing sweating. Unfortunately the Beta test version mostly involved spraying the subject with cheap aerosol antiperspirant and was easy to defeat.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (rbvCR)

105 95 LOL at Robert Barnes betting $10k that Massie would win.
Then blocking anyone who took him up on that bet.
And telling his readers no one took him up.
While now going quadruple-or-nothing on the Rs will lose the House, the Senate and several governor seats in November.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (73/SM)

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"All my other predictions were really wrong, but my next one is right."

No wonder no one watches their streams anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (46HP8)

106 100 The only hatchback I might consider nowadays is in the back of my BVDs when I eat something that doesn't agree with me.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 22, 2026 11:31 AM (qx7Zg)

There was one I saw the other day that I thought looked kind of cool (would never guy one) a ... Veloster? Not sure of the make right this minute.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:33 AM (bss/y)

107 57 "Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share."

If they could sell one with "good ratings" for $10k, I'd be tempted. Need to use my solar panels more fully. But it might be hard to find real ratings, not scam ratings originating in China.
Posted by: illiniwek

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I highly recommend watching, "The China Show" on YouTube. Two men who lived for extended periods in China, both fluent in Mandarin, examine everyday life in China. The footage of manufacturing standards in China is terrifying. Chinese EVs are poorly constructed death traps, far more likely to lock the doors and burst into flame than give you reliable transportation.

The segments on Chinese "Tofu Dregs" construction are also nightmare fuel. Those 70-story highrises you see are uninhabitable. The stairwells fall out of the building. The balconies collapse. The concrete...isn't really concrete. God helps us if they took the same shortcuts with the Seven Gorges Dam.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 22, 2026 11:33 AM (X+xvk)

108 How does one project the turnout?

Because in years without massive fraud less then half the voters turn out.

If slightly more R or D turn out that will generally decide the election.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:33 AM (sKqQm)

109 A point to consider - objectively Bass should have retired after the fires. It used to be pols were afraid of screwing up that badly. And the party would be there to force the issue too.

But...no fear here whatsoever.

So I think Pratt will win the votes of actual citizens and still lose. It will be close...but they will produce however many votes Bass needs to win

Schlichter has a good column on this topic today. BLUF: It isn't the cheating, it's the sheeple who simply refuse to change the way they vote, no matter how bad things get.

https://tinyurl.com/ye23dudb

https://tinyurl.com/ye23dudb

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

110 105 "All my other predictions were really wrong, but my next one is right."

No wonder no one watches their streams anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (46HP

Have ANY of Rekeita's allies not turned into complete LOLcows (LAWcows)?

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (uEmCf)

111 Errorickson is such a squish dweeb. He kind of inherited the "conservative" Georgia radio mantle from Neal Boortz when Boortz aged-out and retired. Who pays to listen to him opine is a mystery to me.

Posted by: Zombie Royal T. Marshall at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (oftw2)

112 108 How does one project the turnout?

Because in years without massive fraud less then half the voters turn out.

If slightly more R or D turn out that will generally decide the election.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:33 AM (sKqQm)

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Midterm elections usually have somewhere around 65-70% turnout.

Presidential elections get to about 80-85%.

Senate races drive up turnout closer to presidential levels in the states that have them, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (46HP8)

113 Amazon is doing a weird thing. They make book suggestions based on who knows what, "on your recent activity". Sure pal, sure. How do they know that? What I shop for? I've been monitoring pc case prices and AIO cpu liquid coolers. So based on that what are they showing me? Basically a smorgasbord of all the hip nazi influencer books. A lot of P Buchanan, and A Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together", and it gets worse from there.

Maybe all the growth in the horseshoe isn't coincidental. Maybe it is directed change. I mean, damn Bezos, WTF!

Posted by: banana Dream at May 22, 2026 11:35 AM (3uBP9)

114 Have ANY of Rekeita's allies not turned into complete LOLcows (LAWcows)?
Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (uEmCf)

...

Legal Mindset? Maybe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:35 AM (bss/y)

115 It is a huge mistake to believe China cannot make quality.

They will make anything you want, at a price point. If you want shitty screws at a shitty price, they will provide shitty screws.

Japan first entered the market in the USA in a big way through AM radios and B/W Televisions. They had a reputation of making cheap stuff. Toys mostly, the fake plastic camera that was really a squirt gun, that kind of thing. The consensus was “what’s the harm in them selling a few TVs, we can relax tariffs for those. No big deal.”

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:36 AM (TgO2L)

116 I turned on most of them when the one fat bastard was rolling into how bad the J6 guys were and how they needed to go to jail forever.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:36 AM (bss/y)

117 It's habitual and heavy gambling that's corrosive.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (HdYcL)
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I enjoy gambling, go to Vegas a couple times a year, so I'm not some prude on the issue.

Sports gambling is a cancer and should be banned again. Not just because it introduces the potential for corruption into every contest, but it also frankly sucks all the fun out of what should be an escape from your day-to-day life. I can't watch a golf tournament without hearing what the odds on so-and-so are and seeing 4000 commercials about where I can place my wagers.

Just fuck off and enjoy the thing without having some monetary stake in it that you're 1) probably going to lose and 2) someone else is making money off of it.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 11:36 AM (oqH4h)

118
We haven't been there in years, but Sam Houston Park has quarter horse racing. The last time we went, Her Majesty went down to the paddock to look at the horses in the next race. She has perfect pitch for structure and movement and picked the winner in most of the races.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:37 AM (HdYcL)

119 "All my other predictions were really wrong, but my next one is right."

No wonder no one watches their streams anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM

Sounds like the global warming people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2026 11:37 AM (0N4FZ)

120 >>> Errorickson is such a squish dweeb. He kind of inherited the "conservative" Georgia radio mantle from Neal Boortz when Boortz aged-out and retired. Who pays to listen to him opine is a mystery to me.
Posted by: Zombie Royal T. Marshall at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (oftw2)

He's been interviewing for cnn his whole life.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 22, 2026 11:37 AM (3uBP9)

121 This is the theme of several of Spencer Pratt's newest ads (well, whomever made them). People are sitting around talking, and bit by bit, it becomes apparent that they're all voting Pratt, but were afraid to say so due to social ostracism.

It's powerful stuff. Will he win? Probably not, but maybe.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

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Right. Those ads are about individuals who feel and are told by "Their Betters" that they are -- but in fact are not --- "isolated."

Unfortunately, as an escapee from heavily conservative Orange County, they're stealing virtually every election now (legalized ballot harvesting and illegal alien voting), even there over the past couple of decades ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:37 AM (aDC+n)

122 =======

DOJ shut one down in the last few days:

https://x.com/FBIBoston/status/
2057081556913574085
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
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Hope it's the one that keeps calling about my pre-approved loan.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 22, 2026 11:38 AM (LIEok)

123 Japan first entered the market in the USA in a big way through AM radios and B/W Televisions. They had a reputation of making cheap stuff. Toys mostly, the fake plastic camera that was really a squirt gun, that kind of thing. The consensus was “what’s the harm in them selling a few TVs, we can relax tariffs for those. No big deal.”

In Woody Allen's Sleeper, there's a scene where he's trying to fly using a contraption and mutters "***damn cheap Japanese flying packs". That didn't age well.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:39 AM (Riz8t)

124 111 Errorickson is such a squish dweeb. He kind of inherited the "conservative" Georgia radio mantle from Neal Boortz when Boortz aged-out and retired. Who pays to listen to him opine is a mystery to me.
Posted by: Zombie Royal T. Marshall at May 22, 2026 11:34 AM (oftw2)
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Listening to Boortz on WSB is where I got my intro into conservative(ish, i guess) politics.

When he retired I listened to about two days of Erickson before I decided "This dude's a fag" and started listening to anything else.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (oqH4h)

125 123
In Woody Allen's Sleeper, there's a scene where he's trying to fly using a contraption and mutters "***damn cheap Japanese flying packs". That didn't age well.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:39 AM (Riz8t)

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"No wonder it doesn't work, it says it's made in Japan."
-Doc

"What are you talking about, Doc? Most of the best stuff is made in Japan."
-Marty

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (46HP8)

126 It has long been my suspicion that polls are intentionally skewed so that election fraud is not surprising. If a GOP candidate is 15% in the polls, then election shenanigans that put the Dem candidate ahead would look suspicious.
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I like the supposition that the only reason polls ever end up close to accurate is due to all the Dem cheating.

Consider the oft-cited case of FL:
Just modest election integrity reforms and enforcement flipped the state from purple to deep, deep red.*

*but the Dem candidate is totally going to win this fall, the polls show him ahead!!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (73/SM)

127 "[LA is] dingy. It’s old. It’s dirty. This isn’t the California of my youth with swinging palm trees, sunshine, and endless opportunity.

I saw the latest Beverly Hills Cop movie and it was meh. Eddie Murphy has lost a step, but he still can get a chuckle.

The thing that stood out though is the city in the background looks like shit. I remember in the original, and movies of that era in LA, it looks like a beautiful city...no more.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

128 LOL at Robert Barnes betting $10k that Massie would win.
Then blocking anyone who took him up on that bet.
And telling his readers no one took him up.
While now going quadruple-or-nothing on the Rs will lose the House, the Senate and several governor seats in November.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:30 AM (73/SM)

Bing the King Maker is a perilous position without, you know, the power to make kings.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (rbvCR)

129 Buddy had a Honda Prelude(?) in the 90s. Sporty looking car. Never had any problems with it until he wrecked it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:25 AM (bss/y)

Yep ...

The early models were such fun, had one (in red of course).

And then Honda fuqed up, made the car a bit too big ... and the Prelude became the "Quaalude".

Posted by: browndog says woof at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (3sXRv)

130 Election prediction markets: shit or shit?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (iFTx/)

131 87 The Ohio Republican Party nominated for governor a guy who wants to replace American workers with H-Visa foreigners, which decidedly disadvantages all other Republicans running in Ohio.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

Vivek has this habit of expressing his random idea with a natural ability to speak about it with great conviction, even though he's just spitballin'. He also said that Ohio state colleges should be consolidated. I don't think he thought much about that either. In this case though, a Governor would have a say.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (Dv3i1)

132 We haven't been there in years, but Sam Houston Park has quarter horse racing. The last time we went, Her Majesty went down to the paddock to look at the horses in the next race. She has perfect pitch for structure and movement and picked the winner in most of the races.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:37 AM (HdYcL)

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Dude! That's amazing -- makes sense -- and you two could make a fortune betting horse races

/Damn, I miss "Big Red" Secretariat ... they did an autopsy after his death and he had an extremely enlarged heart, which explained a lot.

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:41 AM (aDC+n)

133
Sports gambling is a cancer and should be banned again.

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Agreed. It gives Pete Rose groupies an excuse to admit the bastard in the HOF.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:41 AM (HdYcL)

134 *but the Dem candidate is totally going to win this fall, the polls show him ahead!!!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (73/SM)

Kamala is 50 points ahead of any possible GOP candidate in 2028!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:41 AM (bss/y)

135 My dad was "anti-Japanese" for years. Then, the "gas crisis" of the late 70's hit when Carter was president. So, he bought a Datsun 200SX.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 11:42 AM (jehhT)

136 As it turned out, Japanese televisions were quite good, reliable, and affordable. Color televisions were much more expensive at the time. Just about everyone had a TV in the 1960s, though not a Color Television.

The Trinitron was actually based on a 1950s design invented by Earnest Lawrence, who dabbled in many things other than physics.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:42 AM (TgO2L)

137 The thing that stood out though is the city in the background looks like shit. I remember in the original, and movies of that era in LA, it looks like a beautiful city...no more.
Posted by: 18-1

Decline is a choice, chosen by Dem politicians and the Dem voters (and pre-marked ballots) that love them.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Dv3i1)

138 Election prediction markets: shit or shit?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:40 AM (iFTx/)

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Garbage comment!

j/k and funny ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:42 AM (aDC+n)

139 Baris has gone full Tucker, Alex Jones Nutz. Don't know what happened to him, he even looks psychotic.

Posted by: Never Been Poled at May 22, 2026 11:43 AM (oftw2)

140 Is the issue with blue shitholes lefty LIVs that won't learn or fraud?

IN my own experience with these people they certainly don't learn, I've listed plenty of experiences where the leftwing pols they support run on a platform, win, implement it and the LIVs complain and blame someone else.

But...I also notice that unlike the HIV leftwingers I know, the LIVs don't walk around on election day showing everyone their "I Voted" sticker.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)

141 >>>They had a reputation of making cheap stuff. Toys mostly, the fake plastic camera that was really a squirt gun, that kind of thing. The consensus was “what’s the harm in them selling a few TVs, we can relax tariffs for those. No big deal.”
Posted by: Common Tater
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and Forced an exponential increase in the quality of American made products.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 22, 2026 11:43 AM (LIEok)

142 TBF, people said the same thing about Japanese "rice-burners" until just before they took over the market.
Posted by: Archimedes

Honda makes motorbikes. Who would ever buy a Honda car??
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2026 11:22 AM (Cqx++)

....or a Honda light jet airplane.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 22, 2026 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)

143 Great insight, Buck.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 22, 2026 11:44 AM (dK+Kv)

144
I miss "Big Red" Secretariat ... they did an autopsy after his death and he had an extremely enlarged heart, which explained a lot.

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:41 AM (aDC+n)

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He had an almost perfect structure as well. A great engine running great machinery.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2026 11:44 AM (HdYcL)

145 I had a black Honda Prelude. Loved that car!

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 22, 2026 11:44 AM (EneHm)

146 139 Baris has gone full Tucker, Alex Jones Nutz. Don't know what happened to him, he even looks psychotic.

Posted by: Never Been Poled at May 22, 2026 11:43 AM (oftw2)

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And the audience left them.

It's weird how commentators think they can lead audiences places. Time and time again, if they make serious breaks with pre-existing assumptions, they lose the audience.

These are jesters, at best, and once the entertainment sours, the audience leaves. They need to learn that before they take the $10,000 from Qatar to push Islamism, or whatever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:45 AM (46HP8)

147 How do they not both burst into flames? In any case, Putin is getting desperate.

Putin, Xi signal unity but fail to reach deal on pipeline sought by Russia

However, the two leaders, who are longtime allies but also uneasy neighbors, were united in portraying themselves as stabilizing forces seeking to counter chaos unleashed by the United States in recent months.

In a joint statement, Xi and Putin condemned what they called “treacherous military strikes against other countries, the hypocritical use of negotiations as cover for preparing such strikes, the assassination of leaders of sovereign states, the destabilization of the domestic political situation in these states and the provocation of regime change, and the brazen kidnapping of national leaders for trial.”

https://tinyurl.com/5bjtdrep

“Unilateral hegemony is rampant,” Xi said, according to a Chinese government readout of the meeting, in a clear dig at the United States.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

148 My dad was "anti-Japanese" for years.
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Paul Tibbetts drove a Toyota. Really.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:45 AM (r3wfs)

149

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

150 The thing that stood out though is the city in the background looks like shit. I remember in the original, and movies of that era in LA, it looks like a beautiful city...no more.
Posted by: 18-1

Decline is a choice, chosen by Dem politicians and the Dem voters (and pre-marked ballots) that love them.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Dv3i1)

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Just heard a clip from the great Trump advisor Stephen Miller on a radio talk show where he's making it clear that the choice going forward is between first world (pro-Republican) and third-world (pro-Democrat-Communist) cities, states, country, and West.

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:46 AM (aDC+n)

151 These are jesters, at best, and once the entertainment sours, the audience leaves. They need to learn that before they take the $10,000 from Qatar to push Islamism, or whatever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:45 AM (46HP

In a way, this comes full circle to Buck above: people want to hear that they are not alone. That what they think matters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:46 AM (bss/y)

152 It does seem the lefties with money to lose believe both polls and prediction markets can be used as a tool to discourage conservative voters and keep enough away from the polls to help their candidates. "Polymarket shows the D candidate has a 80% chance of winning? Guess there's no point in voting for the R!"

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 11:46 AM (cWLG3)

153 140 IN my own experience with these people they certainly don't learn, I've listed plenty of experiences where the leftwing pols they support run on a platform, win, implement it and the LIVs complain and blame someone else.

But...I also notice that unlike the HIV leftwingers I know, the LIVs don't walk around on election day showing everyone their "I Voted" sticker.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)

I've had coworkers like that. They'll complain about a Democrat, and I've asked why they vote for them if they never do what they want, and they just say "Well, who else am I going to vote for? I can't vote for a Republican! They only care about rich people!"

You can't get through to them.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:46 AM (uEmCf)

154 Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:32 AM (rbvCR)

I have dumb ideas all the time but that shit is Billy Madison dumb. Although I will read up to see what was potentially smart about it.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2026 11:47 AM (J8APv)

155 China wants to pay Chinese prices that they were getting from Iran, Russia wants European prices since they are needing the cash. They have been fighting over the price for about 5 years IIRC

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:47 AM (rbvCR)

156 Just heard a clip from the great Trump advisor Stephen Miller on a radio talk show where he's making it clear that the choice going forward is between first world (pro-Republican) and third-world (pro-Democrat-Communist) cities, states, country, and West.

Sadly, the smart money is on many of those people voting for the third world.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t)

157 152 It does seem the lefties with money to lose believe both polls and prediction markets can be used as a tool to discourage conservative voters and keep enough away from the polls to help their candidates. "Polymarket shows the D candidate has a 80% chance of winning? Guess there's no point in voting for the R!"
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 11:46 AM (cWLG3)

And I'd say this worked in '92 (but funneled TO perot- protest Bush!), '96, '08, '12.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:48 AM (bss/y)

158 and Forced an exponential increase in the quality of American made products.
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Well no, they forced every domestic Television maker out of business, actually. Nobody has made a TV here in almost 50 years. Electronics generally, is gone. Never mind computer chips and LCD

Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:48 AM (r3wfs)

159 I had a Honda Accord (1982). Zero problems in 8 years of ownership. 5 speed manual and 35 mpg. Previously as a student I couldn't afford the Civic ($3400 or so) and settled for a Fiat. Can you say underpowered?

Posted by: free tibet at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (iNp3L)

160 156 Sadly, the smart money is on many of those people voting for the third world.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t)

"How am I going to get my 3AM Shawarma if you deport Abdullah?"

-AWFLs

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (uEmCf)

161 It's amazing to me that people -- or at least most of them -- still consider these "betting markets" as legitimate odds-making gambling operations. They are not. They are unregulated semi-scams that are easily manipulated by insiders.

If you want to bet on which hand Jeffrey Toobin will jerk off with, then by all means lay your money down. But don't come crying to me when you lose your money and scream "unfair!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

162 155 China wants to pay Chinese prices that they were getting from Iran, Russia wants European prices since they are needing the cash. They have been fighting over the price for about 5 years IIRC
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:47 AM (rbvCR)

Ever get the feeling that almost all modern economies are a house of cards?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (bss/y)

163 China wants to pay Chinese prices that they were getting from Iran, Russia wants European prices since they are needing the cash. They have been fighting over the price for about 5 years IIRC

Two scorpions in a bottle.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

164 Robert Barnes has no honor.

Posted by: Worf at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (gKWVE)

165 161 It's amazing to me that people -- or at least most of them -- still consider these "betting markets" as legitimate odds-making gambling operations. They are not. They are unregulated semi-scams that are easily manipulated by insiders.

If you want to bet on which hand Jeffrey Toobin will jerk off with, then by all means lay your money down. But don't come crying to me when you lose your money and scream "unfair!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

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"But they get the obvious races right most of the time and are no better than coin tosses on the close races, which makes them so accurate and reliable months out from an election."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (46HP8)

166 What was the last American made television company?

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar8)

167 and settled for a Fiat. Can you say underpowered?
Posted by: free tibet at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (iNp3L)

But the ashtray was awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (bss/y)

168 >>>In a joint statement, Xi and Putin condemned what they called “treacherous military strikes against other countries, the hypocritical use of negotiations as cover for preparing such strikes, the assassination of leaders of sovereign states, the destabilization of the domestic political situation in these states and the provocation of regime change, and the brazen kidnapping of national leaders for trial.”
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So, they are doing standup comedy these days.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (LIEok)

169 166 What was the last American made television company?
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar

RCA maybe?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (bss/y)

170 The Fiat Iago 666.

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (Gqar8)

171 Net also says Zenith.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (bss/y)

172 Most TVs are Korean made, now.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (uEmCf)

173 What was the last American made television company?
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar

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Zenith? I think it still exists in theory, but it was bought by some major asian company years ago.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

174 I have dumb ideas all the time but that shit is Billy Madison dumb. Although I will read up to see what was potentially smart about it.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2026 11:47 AM (J8APv)

Absolutely nothing, the guy was a total crank and failure that had been living on the fumes of an accidental invention that he got from someone else, and spent the rest of his life attempting to prove he was meaningful. It was a comedic bright spot in a fairly depressing book about time travel and memory erasing

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (rbvCR)

175 169 166 What was the last American made television company?
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar

RCA maybe?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (bss/y)

I will have to research it. Sort of interesting.

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (Gqar8)

176 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

177 176 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

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With man boobs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (46HP8)

178 166 What was the last American made television company?
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My Dad claimed that was Zenith, though I never checked up on that, even decades later.

Posted by: the lower depths at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (Dg7ng)

179 159 I had a Honda Accord (1982). Zero problems in 8 years of ownership. 5 speed manual and 35 mpg. Previously as a student I couldn't afford the Civic ($3400 or so) and settled for a Fiat. Can you say underpowered?
Posted by: free tibet at May 22, 2026 11:49 AM (iNp3L)
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My automobile of now 17 years has had no problems except for a broken lumbar support that severd a wire to the driver side seat warmer element. Bun warmer no workie. I have persevered.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (cWLG3)

180 "The footage of manufacturing standards in China is terrifying. Chinese EVs are poorly constructed death traps, far more likely to lock the doors and burst into flame than give you reliable transportation."
Posted by: Sam Adams

I've bought a few Vevor items, and they have performed OK, and are usually about half the price of the name brands. But for a $10K item, it would have to have a proven record. I paid $11k for an "Envy" golf cart EV (supposedly made in USA, or is it "assembled" here?) and it has been trouble, but lead acid batteries so at least no fires.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (vbXSk)

181 176 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

But Cigars, CBD!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (bss/y)

182 >>>In a joint statement, Xi and Putin condemned what they called “treacherous military strikes against other countries, the hypocritical use of negotiations as cover for preparing such strikes, the assassination of leaders of sovereign states, the destabilization of the domestic political situation in these states and the provocation of regime change, and the brazen kidnapping of national leaders for trial.”

So, they are doing standup comedy these days.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 22, 2026 11:51 AM (LIEok)

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They sound somewhat "defensive" ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (aDC+n)

183 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

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With man boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (46HP

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Who?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

184 Xi and Putin agree on violence? Depends

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 22, 2026 11:55 AM (0GwXV)

185 > Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.
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He's pretty much having his ass handed to him on X. It's amusing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 11:55 AM (jehhT)

186 183 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

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With man boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (46HP
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Who?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

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Man Boobs. Don't you know him? I call him Man Boobs.

Terrible lawyer who kind of got Twitter famous in 2020 for latching onto "pollster" Baris for predicting Trump's win. He's also a Bernie voter who has posed as MAGA for the last few years while freaking out about how MAGA is dead and the Jews control everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (46HP8)

187 Since political actors are falsely pushing the numbers in these predictions markets, it suggests a strategy of betting heavily against anyone who is far ahead the day before the election.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (NyxOA)

188 173 What was the last American made television company?
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar
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Zenith? I think it still exists in theory, but it was bought by some major asian company years ago.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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Were RCA and Zenith the sams company? Magnavox wss also an American manufacturer of TVs.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (cWLG3)

189 "Alberta to hold fall referendum on whether to have binding referendum on separating from Canada.... Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she plans to vote in favour of Alberta staying in Canada"

So they are going to have a referendum on whether to have a referendum...

Can we now stop talking about the always-ridiculous idea that Alberta will ever separate from Canada? It will *never* be allowed.

Posted by: 2 + 2 = Uranus at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (qUkBO)

190 185
I'm at work, so I can't check if Robert Barnes has his own section on Kiwi Farms yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if he and Baris did, given their lolcow behavior.

Posted by: the lower depths at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (Dg7ng)

191 In a joint statement, Xi and Putin condemned what they called “treacherous military strikes against other countries, the hypocritical use of negotiations as cover for preparing such strikes, the assassination of leaders of sovereign states, the destabilization of the domestic political situation in these states and the provocation of regime change, and the brazen kidnapping of national leaders for trial.”
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We only did the treacherous military strike against other countries thing, not all that other stuff.
- Putin

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (Dv3i1)

192 Terrible lawyer who kind of got Twitter famous in 2020 for latching onto "pollster" Baris for predicting Trump's win. He's also a Bernie voter who has posed as MAGA for the last few years while freaking out about how MAGA is dead and the Jews control everything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (46HP

He was also in the gaggle of lawyers who were ostensibly pro-Rittenhouse streaming during the trial (which was a windfall for all of them.) I don't know if he still does a show with Viva Frei.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:57 AM (bss/y)

193 Oh, another lawtuuber who seemed all right 'Runkle of the Bailey'- even if he is canadian.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 11:57 AM (bss/y)

194 186 Terrible lawyer who kind of got Twitter famous in 2020 for latching onto "pollster" Baris for predicting Trump's win. He's also a Bernie voter who has posed as MAGA for the last few years while freaking out about how MAGA is dead and the Jews control everything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (46HP

Also for being part of Nick Rekeita's crew that was covering the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 11:57 AM (uEmCf)

195 I was an early convert. I looked at new Pinto, Vega, Cricket in 1973. Didn't like them. Bought a one-year old Toyota Corona. More room, better ride, handling, gas mileage, a zippy little thing. The Toyota "R" series of engines were much better than any 4 cylinder American cars for decades. Still have one, a 1987 little Grand Ville motor home on a Toyota dually chassis. Has a 22RE engine and runs like a top.

Posted by: Auto Autist at May 22, 2026 11:57 AM (oftw2)

196 186 183 Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2026 11:52 AM (mDGAX)

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With man boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:53 AM (46HP
_______

Who?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

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Man Boobs. Don't you know him? I call him Man Boobs.

Terrible lawyer who kind of got Twitter famous in 2020 for latching onto "pollster" Baris for predicting Trump's win. He's also a Bernie voter who has posed as MAGA for the last few years while freaking out about how MAGA is dead and the Jews control everything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (46HP

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Also, as a frequent guest on Viva Frei's Youtube channel, he seems to have infected Viva Frei with his psychosis.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (cWLG3)

197 It's a big porta potty circle jerk. Owens, Fuentes, MTG, Jones just bounce around each others' podcasts. Everyone knows it and that is why they couldn't get their boy Massie anywhere in Kentucky, because they didn't talk to any actual KY-4 voters.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (gKWVE)

198 I've purchased and driven for work three used Honda CR-Vs (85,000 miles/year). The first, a 2001, had a costly known issue of valves being burnt -- but still got 250,000 miles out of it.

Got over 300,000 miles out of a 2004 and 2006.

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (aDC+n)

199 "Alberta to hold fall referendum on whether to have binding referendum on separating from Canada.... Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she plans to vote in favour of Alberta staying in Canada"

So they are going to have a referendum on whether to have a referendum...

Can we now stop talking about the always-ridiculous idea that Alberta will ever separate from Canada? It will *never* be allowed.
Posted by: 2 + 2 = Uranus at May 22, 2026 11:56 AM (qUkBO)

So, is this the Pre-Meeting before the Meeting, or the Pre-Meeting before the Pre-Meeting before the Meeting?

I didn't know Dilbert covered Canadian politics so well.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 22, 2026 11:59 AM (qx7Zg)

200 197 It's a big porta potty circle jerk. Owens, Fuentes, MTG, Jones just bounce around each others' podcasts. Everyone knows it and that is why they couldn't get their boy Massie anywhere in Kentucky, because they didn't talk to any actual KY-4 voters.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (gKWVE)

Making me horny.

Posted by: Graham Platner at May 22, 2026 11:59 AM (bss/y)

201 Viva Frei would do better if he actually spent as much time researching US politics and law as he does fishing with his kids and bitching about his dogs.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 11:59 AM (rbvCR)

202 I had a used Honda Accord in the early 80s, can't remember the specific year it was built, though. Both front quarter panels rusted out, and that was a common problem. The Nips weren't 10 feet tall, but they didn't have to be to outdo the Big 3 and the UAW.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

203 197 It's a big porta potty circle jerk. Owens, Fuentes, MTG, Jones just bounce around each others' podcasts. Everyone knows it and that is why they couldn't get their boy Massie anywhere in Kentucky, because they didn't talk to any actual KY-4 voters.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (gKWVE)

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But their Twitter polls of Bangaledshi incels predicted Massie's win!

The best part of Baris' nonsense was that he went from "Massie is going to win easily" to "it's a 50/50 race and the polls showing him losing by 10 are fake" to "I put money on Massie's opponent at 5-10 cents per share and won."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (46HP8)

204 It's a big porta potty circle jerk. Owens, Fuentes, MTG, Jones just bounce around each others' podcasts. Everyone knows it and that is why they couldn't get their boy Massie anywhere in Kentucky, because they didn't talk to any actual KY-4 voters.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (gKWVE)

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"That's because they were all Jooos, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (aDC+n)

205 Never mind computer chips and LCD
Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:48 AM (r3wfs)
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We actually make quite a lot of computer chips domestically and we're bringing new fabs online year after year.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (oqH4h)

206
204 It's a big porta potty circle jerk. Owens, Fuentes, MTG, Jones just bounce around each others' podcasts. Everyone knows it and that is why they couldn't get their boy Massie anywhere in Kentucky, because they didn't talk to any actual KY-4 voters.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 11:58 AM (gKWVE)

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"That's because they were all Jooos, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (aDC+n)

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"The most expensive House primary in history lead to a large increase in primary voters! It was the Jews with mail in ballots!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (46HP8)

207 185 > Robert Barnes is an anti-American cunt.
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He's pretty much having his ass handed to him on X. It's amusing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 11:55 AM (jehhT)
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What time of year is the Martini Harvest? Also do you grow your own olives?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 12:01 PM (cWLG3)

208 If people could predict the future that well, there'd be a whole lot more people making big money on the stock market.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
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Well, you can make very good money in the stock market right now by just being in chips, oil/energy, and finance. Probably double your money in 5 years - with dividends coming in off energy and finance to boot. It's really not that hard.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 22, 2026 12:02 PM (GZYu7)

209 "That's because they were all Jooos, h8r!"
Posted by: ShainS at May 22, 2026 12:00 PM (aDC+n)

Kentucky Jews are a YUGE thing here. I was so surprised when I moved. There is a synagogue on every corner.

It is a weird thing to see a guy in overalls named Cletus with a yarmulke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:02 PM (bss/y)

210 So, the word is that arch-conservative Nick Fuentes has moved from "voting for Democrats is what tru-cons do" to "Invading Canada to commit ethnic cleansing is what tru-cons who vote Democrat do"

I am awaiting his pronouncements on Millionaire taxes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 12:02 PM (rbvCR)

211 115 It is a huge mistake to believe China cannot make quality.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:36 AM (TgO2L)

I think it is an accurate belief. China and Japan have vast cultural differences, to the point that I believe China is literally incapable of developing a trustworthy materials market. There will always be someone making the cheapest material possible, trying to pass it off as the most expensive one he can get away with.

For example, China is trying to develop a domestic version of SpaceX's reusable rockets, but I have heard that their engines are much bigger and heavier -- because they cannot trust the metal. And that's in a high-visibility, national prestige application! Everything else must be even worse.

Posted by: SciVo at May 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Sy6m/)

212 That.... that was sarcasm, just fyi.

I hardly ever see anyone in overalls.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:03 PM (bss/y)

213 people could predict the future that well, there'd be a whole lot more people making big money on the stock market.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
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Well, you can make very good money in the stock market right now by just being in chips, oil/energy, and finance. Probably double your money in 5 years - with dividends coming in off energy and finance to boot. It's really not that hard.
Posted by: Black JEM at

If you were just in S&P funds you'd have almost 5xed in 10 years.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 22, 2026 12:03 PM (YZ0Fo)

214 210 So, the word is that arch-conservative Nick Fuentes has moved from "voting for Democrats is what tru-cons do" to "Invading Canada to commit ethnic cleansing is what tru-cons who vote Democrat do"

I am awaiting his pronouncements on Millionaire taxes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2026 12:02 PM (rbvCR)

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And this is after arch-conservative said he was going to Michigan to campaign for Kamala in September of 2024?

He's such a die hard MAGAt that's a real leader in the movement who has incredible real world influence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 12:03 PM (46HP8)

215 Also, communist societies have issues getting the slaves to really QC well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:04 PM (bss/y)

216 215 Also, communist societies have issues getting the slaves to really QC well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:04 PM (bss/y)

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"The boots are heavy, comrade, just like you wanted."

"They weigh 70 pound each."

"Commisar said heavy boots."

"They're made of lead."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at May 22, 2026 12:04 PM (46HP8)

217 I wish people would just stop saying the name of the sawed-off little cuckold wannabe neo-Nazi. Attention is his heroin, and I'd like for that little fag to go to rehab because his supply ran out.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:05 PM (oqH4h)

218 Well, you can make very good money in the stock market right now by just being in chips, oil/energy, and finance.

Speaking of which, the finance bros may be in for a hard time.

Jamie Dimon says JPMorgan will hire more AI braniacs, fewer bankers

Artificial intelligence is poised to drastically shrink the workforce at the nation’s largest bank, but the transition will happen without the pain of mass layoffs, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon said Thursday.

In an interview in Shanghai, the renowned money man told Bloomberg that AI will make his employees vastly more productive.

While the technology will ultimately reduce the need for certain jobs, Dimon said the bank will manage the shift through “natural attrition” — simply not filling the positions of the 25,000 to 30,000 workers who quit or retire each year.

https://tinyurl.com/39s37nsn

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 12:05 PM (Riz8t)

219 I hardly ever see anyone in overalls.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

The number to call is BR-549.

Posted by: Junior Samples at May 22, 2026 12:05 PM (oftw2)

220

This plot by the Chinese to export dangerous, randomly exploding fire bombs into the United States would seem to be-

a matter for the DHS and perhaps a cause for war!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2026 12:06 PM (iJfKG)

221 It's been a few, uh, decades since I read Philip Roth's "Plot Against America". I recall (dimly) President Lindbergh ruralize a bunch of city Jews into Kentucky.
So if Owens and the various heckin'-based homos in podcastland got their wish... Massie would have lost even harder.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 12:06 PM (gKWVE)

222 I had a '90 Plymouth Laser. It was a Mitsubishi Eclipse clone. Peppy, turbocharged 4, 5 speed, decent looks.

Traded it in for a BMW E36 325is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 12:07 PM (jehhT)

223 221 It's been a few, uh, decades since I read Philip Roth's "Plot Against America". I recall (dimly) President Lindbergh ruralize a bunch of city Jews into Kentucky.
So if Owens and the various heckin'-based homos in podcastland got their wish... Massie would have lost even harder.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 22, 2026 12:06 PM (gKWVE)

Maybe I could get a good bagel then.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:07 PM (bss/y)

224 There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles

but what about those pesky vietnamese? i saw a vinfast in the parking lot at work yesterday...

Posted by: anachronda at May 22, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M)

225 211 115 It is a huge mistake to believe China cannot make quality.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 22, 2026 11:36 AM (TgO2L)

I think it is an accurate belief. China and Japan have vast cultural differences, to the point that I believe China is literally incapable of developing a trustworthy materials market. There will always be someone making the cheapest material possible, trying to pass it off as the most expensive one he can get away with.
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Domestic Chinese "brands" allow a much larger margin for error in quality than US or European manufacturing (as scarce as it is)
They also use poorer quality components or cheaper materials wherever they can get away with it. It's the volume that makes the money, not the quality.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 12:08 PM (cWLG3)

226 "discusses the preposterous media narrative that Americans will fall in love with Chinese EVs if/when they hit the U.S. market, and that Chinese auto manufacturers will capture significant U.S. market share"

It's actually not that preposterous. Chinese EVs took over the UK and European markets almost overnight. Sure, it took billions and billions of investment -- mostly by the Chinese government or its remoras -- and buildout of charging systems, but they did it. Almost overnight.

Chinese EVs aren't shit. They are probably better than 90% of American and Euro EVs. That's because they are American and Euro EVs. The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it, and sell it cheaper than Western competition because of massive government subsidies.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

227 224 There’s No Reason to Fear an Invasion of Chinese Electric Vehicles

but what about those pesky vietnamese? i saw a vinfast in the parking lot at work yesterday...
Posted by: anachronda at May 22, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M)

Was that Mike Hammer who mentioned some light, small Indian made trucks (Mahindra or something?) I do not have much experience with Indian quality, so I do not know.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (bss/y)

228 Domestic Chinese "brands" allow a much larger margin for error in quality than US or European manufacturing (as scarce as it is)
They also use poorer quality components or cheaper materials wherever they can get away with it.

Hey, that's our thing!

Posted by: The UAW at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

229 Chinese EVs aren't shit. They are probably better than 90% of American and Euro EVs. That's because they are American and Euro EVs. The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it, and sell it cheaper than Western competition because of massive government subsidies.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

Don't forget 'slave labor'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:10 PM (bss/y)

230 Maybe I could get a good bagel then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

So sorry, Jews stopped making bagels when they moved to the Villages. Their few progeny went to college and are annoying lawyers now.

Posted by: Arabs Make 90% Of Bagels at May 22, 2026 12:10 PM (oftw2)

231 222 I had a '90 Plymouth Laser. It was a Mitsubishi Eclipse clone. Peppy, turbocharged 4, 5 speed, decent looks.

Traded it in for a BMW E36 325is.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 12:07 PM (jehhT)
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The Mopar/Mitusbishi collaboration in the early 90's made some cool cars.

The Conquest (Rebadged Mitsu Starion) was cool AF.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:11 PM (oqH4h)

232 It's actually not that preposterous. Chinese EVs took over the UK and European markets almost overnight.

Well, it's a good thing the Euros have all the rest of their world-leading manufacturing to fall back on.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

233 229 The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it,
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

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Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:12 PM (oqH4h)

234 219 The number to call is BR-549.

klondike5-1212 > br-549

Posted by: anachronda at May 22, 2026 12:12 PM (qdr3M)

235 Chinese EVs aren't shit. They are probably better than 90% of American and Euro EVs. That's because they are American and Euro EVs. The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it, and sell it cheaper than Western competition because of massive government subsidies.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

Don't forget 'slave labor'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:10 PM (bss/y)
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That too. But ... a lot of western companies are benefitting from Chinese slave labor too. So using slaves (or minimally-paid semi-slaves) isn't solely a Chinese thing.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

236 Wait, what?? Bagels are no longer made of Judo? There goes my favorite joke.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 22, 2026 12:13 PM (wBaIH)

237 Well, it's a good thing the Euros have all the rest of their world-leading manufacturing to fall back on.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

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Weapons manufacturers? FN? The French guys. Swiss. Glock.

This is sad, I am actually trying to think of actual industry and not coming up with much- which is to your point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:13 PM (bss/y)

238 222 I had a '90 Plymouth Laser. It was a Mitsubishi Eclipse clone. Peppy, turbocharged 4, 5 speed, decent looks.

Traded it in for a BMW E36 325is.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2026 12:07 PM (jehhT)

When the Eclipse changed their model in the Mid-late 90s, the old model became the Eagle Talon.

Posted by: XTC at May 22, 2026 12:13 PM (iXqHn)

239 ace is up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 22, 2026 12:14 PM (bss/y)

240 NOOD - Dr. OZ and MN fraud

Posted by: the lower depths at May 22, 2026 12:14 PM (Dg7ng)

241 233 229 The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it,
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

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Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:12 PM (oqH4h)
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In Communist China, the tech steal you!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 22, 2026 12:14 PM (cWLG3)

242 The Chinese never improve the tech they steal. Most videos of burning EVs are from China.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 22, 2026 12:14 PM (wBaIH)

243 The Chinese did what the Chinese always do: steal the tech, improve it,
Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:09 PM (iFTx/)

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Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2026 12:12 PM (oqH4h)
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They did improve it. For one thing, they have EVs that can do battery-swaps at battery-swap stations in about 5 minutes. Drive into the station with a low battery, and in 5 minutes you'll have a new, fully-charged battery. Potentially revolutionary.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 22, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

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