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Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:00 PM (3CpER)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM (0sNs1)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM (BCwQW)
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This is a comment for RI Red, in order that he not receive yet another Permanent Record entry for being late.
Although his excuse of grilling salmon only points our poor scheduling and time management on his part. Sad!
Although his excuse of grilling salmon only points our poor scheduling and time management on his part. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:02 PM (0sNs1)
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Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 17, 2026 07:03 PM (sAmhv)
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Foodies notified
Posted by: SciVo at May 17, 2026 07:03 PM (Sy6m/)
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BONG
Posted by: Eromero at May 17, 2026 07:05 PM (LHPAg)
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My dad was on subs when the war started. He and mom were at Pearl Harbour. The torpedo problem was legit. And the sub fleet was pissed.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 17, 2026 07:05 PM (2WIwB)
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I practiced with my Henry .22 rifle. Had to shoot left handed. That was a challenge. Did pretty well. My right eye is...not very good. I can't see the rifle sights. Anyhow. I am shooting nuisance birds this week. We have a burgeoning Purple Martin colony. If it is a Sparrow or a Cowbird, I will kill you.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:07 PM (aGrif)
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Nice review rhomboid.
*adds cigar to buy list*
*adds cigar to buy list*
Posted by: Diogenes at May 17, 2026 07:08 PM (2WIwB)
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Not crazy about extreme polish jobs on firearms.
For me, they are tools for self defense or training, not fashion accessories. As usual YMMV but never cared for BBQ guns nor excessive engraving on a long arm.
For me, they are tools for self defense or training, not fashion accessories. As usual YMMV but never cared for BBQ guns nor excessive engraving on a long arm.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)
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British Naval historian Drachinifel did a great video on the early WW II torpedo issue. Fascinating what Adm King had to go through to get to the bottom of it and get it fixed. Bad design, no actual practice with them and ass covering by the BUORD. Before the war it was a court martial offense if a captain fired and lost a torpedo. No explosives were aboard them so they could be recovered.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 17, 2026 07:12 PM (rFtAF)
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10 I practiced with my Henry .22 rifle. Had to shoot left handed. That was a challenge. Did pretty well. My right eye is...not very good. I can't see the rifle sights. Anyhow. I am shooting nuisance birds this week. We have a burgeoning Purple Martin colony. If it is a Sparrow or a Cowbird, I will kill you.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Consider some aftermarket sights. They may require some professional fitting as I don't know offhand about what is out there for Henry rifles. Open sights that are mounted in front of the receiver (usually on the barrel) are not useful unless you have good eyes and plan to track your target. Peep sights aka aperture sights are far more accurate for most as they are mounted closer to the eyes.
Red dot, prism sights, and scopes, are usually even more accurate and red dot/prisms are probably the fastest for most people to acquire a target and shoot it at reasonable ranges.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Consider some aftermarket sights. They may require some professional fitting as I don't know offhand about what is out there for Henry rifles. Open sights that are mounted in front of the receiver (usually on the barrel) are not useful unless you have good eyes and plan to track your target. Peep sights aka aperture sights are far more accurate for most as they are mounted closer to the eyes.
Red dot, prism sights, and scopes, are usually even more accurate and red dot/prisms are probably the fastest for most people to acquire a target and shoot it at reasonable ranges.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:13 PM (E4rtv)
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You can't be a cowboy until you know how to pull that smoke wagon, pilgrim.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 17, 2026 07:13 PM (D1E+2)
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Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!
Posted by: TRex - one ping only dino at May 17, 2026 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Good evening all and I hope everyone had a great weekend. No shooting for me, but gardening.
Thank you Weasel and a happy week to all the GunHorde
Thank you Weasel and a happy week to all the GunHorde
Posted by: Coelacanth at May 17, 2026 07:14 PM (vt7xw)
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Jeez.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 17, 2026 07:14 PM (2WIwB)
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Mk. 14s require the most aiming, BTW.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM (0sNs1)
I think the videos are more applicable to the Mark 15's carried aboard most USN destroyers, save the WWI era "four pipers" of the Wickes and Clemson classes. Although not as well known as the infamous Mark 14, the Mark 15 was also plagued by problems in the first year of WWII, suffering from duds, going off course, and poor doctrine of use. Not until 1943 did the Mark 15 team up with radar fire control to become a serious threat to the IJN in the Solomons through the battles of Leyte Gulf.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM (0sNs1)
I think the videos are more applicable to the Mark 15's carried aboard most USN destroyers, save the WWI era "four pipers" of the Wickes and Clemson classes. Although not as well known as the infamous Mark 14, the Mark 15 was also plagued by problems in the first year of WWII, suffering from duds, going off course, and poor doctrine of use. Not until 1943 did the Mark 15 team up with radar fire control to become a serious threat to the IJN in the Solomons through the battles of Leyte Gulf.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (BCwQW)
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9 My dad was on subs when the war started. He and mom were at Pearl Harbour. The torpedo problem was legit. And the sub fleet was pissed.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Every war, it seems that we have to learn again that bad equipment decisions in peacetime can cost lives when at war. The torpedo fiasco costs a lot of lives and I've read that torpedo boats often just left their torpedoes and home and jury rigged more cannons as more effective in places like the Solomon Islands.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Every war, it seems that we have to learn again that bad equipment decisions in peacetime can cost lives when at war. The torpedo fiasco costs a lot of lives and I've read that torpedo boats often just left their torpedoes and home and jury rigged more cannons as more effective in places like the Solomon Islands.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (E4rtv)
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18 Jeez.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
Posted by: Diogenes
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I haven't heard about the crew. Saw four chutes but as of an hour ago, no word about the crew's condition. Hope they are all okay.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
Posted by: Diogenes
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I haven't heard about the crew. Saw four chutes but as of an hour ago, no word about the crew's condition. Hope they are all okay.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:17 PM (E4rtv)
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Consider some aftermarket sights. They may require some professional fitting as I don't know offhand about what is out there for Henry rifles. Open sights that are mounted in front of the receiver (usually on the barrel) are not useful unless you have good eyes and plan to track your target. Peep sights aka aperture sights are far more accurate for most as they are mounted closer to the eyes.
Red dot, prism sights, and scopes, are usually even more accurate and red dot/prisms are probably the fastest for most people to acquire a target and shoot it at reasonable ranges.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:13 PM (E4rtv)
Thank you, Mr whig. I felt kind of badass shooting lefthanded not too horribly.
But I do appreciate the advice of gear. My vision sucksnd blows, really. I try to be optimistic and realistic.
Red dot, prism sights, and scopes, are usually even more accurate and red dot/prisms are probably the fastest for most people to acquire a target and shoot it at reasonable ranges.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:13 PM (E4rtv)
Thank you, Mr whig. I felt kind of badass shooting lefthanded not too horribly.
But I do appreciate the advice of gear. My vision sucksnd blows, really. I try to be optimistic and realistic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:19 PM (aGrif)
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Why learn to aim torpedoes when you can get the solution from the fire control computer?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM (T6aVk)
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Range Report:
Beautiful day in Northern NJ. Took the rifle to the range to zero the scope. Last time I went things were all wobbly.
Got a new bipod that made a load of difference and a different bag for the rear.
The first 10 shots were at a steel target at 100 yards. Shot at that and noticed where the bullets impacted on the berm and dialed it until I was hitting the steel. That was about 10 shots.
Set the target at the 50 yard line, aimed at the bottom left of the lower target and pulled the trigger. Through the scope I saw on the target it was 2 MOA high and 1.25 MOA right.
Made adjustment and 2nd shot was .25 MOA lower and further right another MOA. HUH?? Figured out I was stupid and turned the turret the wrong way.
3rd shot was directly below the 1st but elevation was spot on.
4th shot was a flier .5 MOA right of 3rd shot.
5th shot was in the bulls eye.
The next 5 rounds were all within 1.5 MOA of each other on the bulls eye.
Took the target out to 100 yards. The 1st shot was 2 MOA above the center. The next 4 shots were lined up with a 1 MOA group in the bulls eye.
The next 2 shot groups were all perfect on elevation and all within 1MOA.
A damn good day.
Beautiful day in Northern NJ. Took the rifle to the range to zero the scope. Last time I went things were all wobbly.
Got a new bipod that made a load of difference and a different bag for the rear.
The first 10 shots were at a steel target at 100 yards. Shot at that and noticed where the bullets impacted on the berm and dialed it until I was hitting the steel. That was about 10 shots.
Set the target at the 50 yard line, aimed at the bottom left of the lower target and pulled the trigger. Through the scope I saw on the target it was 2 MOA high and 1.25 MOA right.
Made adjustment and 2nd shot was .25 MOA lower and further right another MOA. HUH?? Figured out I was stupid and turned the turret the wrong way.
3rd shot was directly below the 1st but elevation was spot on.
4th shot was a flier .5 MOA right of 3rd shot.
5th shot was in the bulls eye.
The next 5 rounds were all within 1.5 MOA of each other on the bulls eye.
Took the target out to 100 yards. The 1st shot was 2 MOA above the center. The next 4 shots were lined up with a 1 MOA group in the bulls eye.
The next 2 shot groups were all perfect on elevation and all within 1MOA.
A damn good day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:21 PM (3CpER)
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Torpedos cost $10,000 a piece - in 1935 dollars. You could buy a decent house for about $5,000.
Consequently the Navy decided they didn’t really need to test them. Or they didn’t want to anyhow.
They had more than one factor or problem causing the frustration. Some skippers discovered that a glancing blow on the target, at an angle, non-intuitively resulted in a better chance of detonation than a dead on straight 90 deg. hit.
The magnetic trigger or whatever was pretty unreliable from what I read, and the torpedos wouldn’t run at the depth they were set at.
They DID have also a disconcerting habit of circling back around and hitting the boat. Of course, those probably always detonated reliably. I think the Tang was lost with all hands because of this “feature”.
Consequently the Navy decided they didn’t really need to test them. Or they didn’t want to anyhow.
They had more than one factor or problem causing the frustration. Some skippers discovered that a glancing blow on the target, at an angle, non-intuitively resulted in a better chance of detonation than a dead on straight 90 deg. hit.
The magnetic trigger or whatever was pretty unreliable from what I read, and the torpedos wouldn’t run at the depth they were set at.
They DID have also a disconcerting habit of circling back around and hitting the boat. Of course, those probably always detonated reliably. I think the Tang was lost with all hands because of this “feature”.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (tM8U8)
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12 Not crazy about extreme polish jobs on firearms.
For me, they are tools for self defense or training, not fashion accessories. As usual YMMV but never cared for BBQ guns nor excessive engraving on a long arm.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)
Not to mention the concealment aspect. Just give me a basic black finish, especially on handguns.
For me, they are tools for self defense or training, not fashion accessories. As usual YMMV but never cared for BBQ guns nor excessive engraving on a long arm.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)
Not to mention the concealment aspect. Just give me a basic black finish, especially on handguns.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (T6aVk)
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British Naval historian Drachinifel did a great video on the early WW II torpedo issue. Fascinating what Adm King had to go through to get to the bottom of it and get it fixed. Bad design, no actual practice with them and ass covering by the BUORD. Before the war it was a court martial offense if a captain fired and lost a torpedo. No explosives were aboard them so they could be recovered.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 17, 2026 07:12 PM (rFtAF)
Clayton Blair's classic "Silent Victory" remains the definitive account of just how frustrating the Mark 14's problems were for the submariners in COMSUBPAC. The official USN submarine force history (mostly written by COMSUBPAC operations officer Rear Admiral Richard Voge in 1945-46) and approved by Vice Admiral Charles Lockwood, COMSUBPAC, is quite candid about the extent of the Mark 14's problems. Blair's book includes declassified material from the 1970s that Voge's official history could not, such as codebreaking.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 17, 2026 07:12 PM (rFtAF)
Clayton Blair's classic "Silent Victory" remains the definitive account of just how frustrating the Mark 14's problems were for the submariners in COMSUBPAC. The official USN submarine force history (mostly written by COMSUBPAC operations officer Rear Admiral Richard Voge in 1945-46) and approved by Vice Admiral Charles Lockwood, COMSUBPAC, is quite candid about the extent of the Mark 14's problems. Blair's book includes declassified material from the 1970s that Voge's official history could not, such as codebreaking.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (BCwQW)
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and a different bag for the rear.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:21 PM
* sus side eye *
What's it filled with? WeaselApproved(tm) filling, I hope.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:21 PM
* sus side eye *
What's it filled with? WeaselApproved(tm) filling, I hope.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (0sNs1)
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Set the target at the 50 yard line, aimed at the bottom left of the lower target and pulled the trigger. Through the scope I saw on the target it was 2 MOA high and 1.25 MOA right.
Made adjustment and 2nd shot was .25 MOA lower and further right another MOA. HUH?? Figured out I was stupid and turned the turret the wrong way.
3rd shot was directly below the 1st but elevation was spot on.
4th shot was a flier .5 MOA right of 3rd shot.
5th shot was in the bulls eye.
The next 5 rounds were all within 1.5 MOA of each other on the bulls eye.
Took the target out to 100 yards. The 1st shot was 2 MOA above the center. The next 4 shots were lined up with a 1 MOA group in the bulls eye.
The next 2 shot groups were all perfect on elevation and all within 1MOA.
A damn good day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:21 PM (3CpER)
And that is one hell of a grouping. : )
Made adjustment and 2nd shot was .25 MOA lower and further right another MOA. HUH?? Figured out I was stupid and turned the turret the wrong way.
3rd shot was directly below the 1st but elevation was spot on.
4th shot was a flier .5 MOA right of 3rd shot.
5th shot was in the bulls eye.
The next 5 rounds were all within 1.5 MOA of each other on the bulls eye.
Took the target out to 100 yards. The 1st shot was 2 MOA above the center. The next 4 shots were lined up with a 1 MOA group in the bulls eye.
The next 2 shot groups were all perfect on elevation and all within 1MOA.
A damn good day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:21 PM (3CpER)
And that is one hell of a grouping. : )
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:24 PM (T6aVk)
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Not to mention the concealment aspect. Just give me a basic black finish, especially on handguns.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (T6aVk)
Concur.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (T6aVk)
Concur.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 17, 2026 07:24 PM (2WIwB)
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Thank you, Mr whig. I felt kind of badass shooting lefthanded not too horribly.
But I do appreciate the advice of gear. My vision sucksnd blows, really. I try to be optimistic and realistic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Always useful to learn to shoot with the other hand/shoulder/etc. Might have to use a firearm with an injury or be injured during any bad situation.
If you wear glasses, there is a stick on aperture that you can apply to glasses to help shoot more accurately. Lyman Eyepal Rifle Kit which may be discontinued is one such, there are others like those at eyepalusa dot com
But I do appreciate the advice of gear. My vision sucksnd blows, really. I try to be optimistic and realistic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Always useful to learn to shoot with the other hand/shoulder/etc. Might have to use a firearm with an injury or be injured during any bad situation.
If you wear glasses, there is a stick on aperture that you can apply to glasses to help shoot more accurately. Lyman Eyepal Rifle Kit which may be discontinued is one such, there are others like those at eyepalusa dot com
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (E4rtv)
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This is a comment for RI Red, in order that he not receive yet another Permanent Record entry for being late.
Although his excuse of grilling salmon only points our poor scheduling and time management on his part. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:02 PM (0sNs1)
I have dishonored myself and my ancestors. But for factory farmed Peruvian Salmon fish, it was damgood.
And it was 80 degrees in NNH today!
Although his excuse of grilling salmon only points our poor scheduling and time management on his part. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:02 PM (0sNs1)
I have dishonored myself and my ancestors. But for factory farmed Peruvian Salmon fish, it was damgood.
And it was 80 degrees in NNH today!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (LMRVO)
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Why learn to aim torpedoes when you can get the solution from the fire control computer?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM
Because running the Is/Was jacks your score because of the higher degree of difficulty.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM
Because running the Is/Was jacks your score because of the higher degree of difficulty.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:26 PM (0sNs1)
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Every war, it seems that we have to learn again that bad equipment decisions in peacetime can cost lives when at war. The torpedo fiasco costs a lot of lives and I've read that torpedo boats often just left their torpedoes and home and jury rigged more cannons as more effective in places like the Solomon Islands.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (E4rtv)
The barge busting missions PT boats were assigned in the Solomons made their torpedoes useless because the barges had too shallow a draft for the torpedoes to hit them. Since there was a shortage of torpedoes (both the WWI era Mark 8 the PTs originally carried, and the Mark 13, which was the primary weapon of the TBF Avenger), no one complained when the PT sailors began rearming their craft with 20mm and 40mm cannons instead of torpedoes.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (E4rtv)
The barge busting missions PT boats were assigned in the Solomons made their torpedoes useless because the barges had too shallow a draft for the torpedoes to hit them. Since there was a shortage of torpedoes (both the WWI era Mark 8 the PTs originally carried, and the Mark 13, which was the primary weapon of the TBF Avenger), no one complained when the PT sailors began rearming their craft with 20mm and 40mm cannons instead of torpedoes.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
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28 * sus side eye *
What's it filled with? WeaselApproved(tm) filling, I hope.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM
I assert my right to remain silent.
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
What's it filled with? WeaselApproved(tm) filling, I hope.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM
I assert my right to remain silent.
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (3CpER)
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So, about these psychotic friends of ours....
Seriously, where do I sign up for that bathtub business?
Seriously, where do I sign up for that bathtub business?
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (DwqWV)
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Programming Note: I'll be in and out (mostly out) of the comments tonight, so pease don't burn the place down. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
You should be more worried with us blowing the place up than burning it down. There's a lot of gunpowder involved.
You should be more worried with us blowing the place up than burning it down. There's a lot of gunpowder involved.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (kU0PQ)
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I’ve told this story before, but my Dad was a radar operator on a Diesel boat. He knew nothing about torpedos, other than his bunk was on top of one, and you’d get Cosmoline all over your stuff if not careful.
Anyway, he got tasked to “help” a torpedoman ready a torpedo for the next day’s special op where a bunch of brass on another boat was observing while they shot at a target.
He said they worked all throughout the night. And then when the big moment arrived, it was a Dud. Oops. He said he put his hands in his pockets - and there was a bunch of parts left over from the all nighter. Little gears and springs and doo dads. He said he was never so scared in his life, and threw them over the side. LOL
Anyway, he got tasked to “help” a torpedoman ready a torpedo for the next day’s special op where a bunch of brass on another boat was observing while they shot at a target.
He said they worked all throughout the night. And then when the big moment arrived, it was a Dud. Oops. He said he put his hands in his pockets - and there was a bunch of parts left over from the all nighter. Little gears and springs and doo dads. He said he was never so scared in his life, and threw them over the side. LOL
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (tM8U8)
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I have dishonored myself and my ancestors. But for factory farmed Peruvian Salmon fish, it was damgood.
And it was 80 degrees in NNH today!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (LMRVO)
Well, if you can go to Peruvia for salmon, you can certainly come up here for the real thing.
And it was 80 degrees in NNH today!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (LMRVO)
Well, if you can go to Peruvia for salmon, you can certainly come up here for the real thing.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (DwqWV)
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I don't mind (and have several brushed stainless firearms but they have a matte finish). Ditto for modern electroless nickel finishes.
But Glock's and S&W's tennifer and melonite nitrided steel finishes are tough to beat for longevity.
Holsters and carry beats up regular bluing over time and it is not particularly sweat/salt resistant for people living in hot humid climates or around sea coasts.
But Glock's and S&W's tennifer and melonite nitrided steel finishes are tough to beat for longevity.
Holsters and carry beats up regular bluing over time and it is not particularly sweat/salt resistant for people living in hot humid climates or around sea coasts.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
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29 And that is one hell of a grouping. : )
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:24 PM
Just sent you pictures.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:24 PM
Just sent you pictures.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (3CpER)
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If you wear glasses, there is a stick on aperture that you can apply to glasses to help shoot more accurately. Lyman Eyepal Rifle Kit which may be discontinued is one such, there are others like those at eyepalusa dot com
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (E4rtv)
I will check on that. My vision makes shooting less than fun. I want to like it because Mr Scary does. Thank you Mr Whig.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:25 PM (E4rtv)
I will check on that. My vision makes shooting less than fun. I want to like it because Mr Scary does. Thank you Mr Whig.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:31 PM (aGrif)
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>>My dad was on subs when the war started. He and mom were at Pearl Harbour. The torpedo problem was legit. And the sub fleet was pissed.
In WWII Narragansett Bay was a very active Naval area including Goat Island and Gould Island where much of the early development of torpedos took place. I've read a lot of stuff about what a cluster that was at the beginning of the war.
In WWII Narragansett Bay was a very active Naval area including Goat Island and Gould Island where much of the early development of torpedos took place. I've read a lot of stuff about what a cluster that was at the beginning of the war.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2026 07:31 PM (viF8m)
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33 Why learn to aim torpedoes when you can get the solution from the fire control computer?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM
Because running the Is/Was jacks your score because of the higher degree of difficulty.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:26 PM (0sNs1)
My dad was in the army during the 1950s, as a civil engineer. He was tasked with developing a slide-rule type computing device to determine the probably outcome of using a tactical nuke on the battlefield, which he did. It was in service about three years before computer stuff began to take over, and thank God nobody ever had to use it anyway.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM
Because running the Is/Was jacks your score because of the higher degree of difficulty.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:26 PM (0sNs1)
My dad was in the army during the 1950s, as a civil engineer. He was tasked with developing a slide-rule type computing device to determine the probably outcome of using a tactical nuke on the battlefield, which he did. It was in service about three years before computer stuff began to take over, and thank God nobody ever had to use it anyway.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (DwqWV)
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They DID have also a disconcerting habit of circling back around and hitting the boat. Of course, those probably always detonated reliably. I think the Tang was lost with all hands because of this “feature”.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (tM8U
At least three subs were lost because of circling torpedoes: USS Grunion in 1942, USS Tang and USS Tullibee in 1944. Tang and Tullibee had survivors (a sole survivor from the Tullibee). Grunion's wreck was found in the early 2000's with damage consistent with the impact of a circling torpedo. Note that circling torpedoes were often reported by USN sub skippers in their patrol reports, so it was a problem the sailors knew about.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (tM8U
At least three subs were lost because of circling torpedoes: USS Grunion in 1942, USS Tang and USS Tullibee in 1944. Tang and Tullibee had survivors (a sole survivor from the Tullibee). Grunion's wreck was found in the early 2000's with damage consistent with the impact of a circling torpedo. Note that circling torpedoes were often reported by USN sub skippers in their patrol reports, so it was a problem the sailors knew about.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (BCwQW)
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Well, who doesn't know how to aim a torpedo.
Mk. 14s require the most aiming, BTW.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM
Mk 45s, the least.
Mk. 14s require the most aiming, BTW.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 17, 2026 07:01 PM
Mk 45s, the least.
Posted by: toby928(c) at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (4NO2D)
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Good evening all, and thanks Weasel. No shooting for me unfortunately. Been away for a week, home for a couple of days = laundry and repacking, and then off again. Will be home next weekend, but off again on Monday for 2 weeks - but at least THAT trip will include a trip to a magical castle in NH! And a range report!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
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You should be more worried with us blowing the place up than burning it down. There's a lot of gunpowder involved.
Posted by: GWB
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Blackpowder and primers blow up. Smokeless powder deflagarates rather than detonates like blackpowder or primers do. Reason I don't keep black powder around and use substitutes on black powder arms.
Posted by: GWB
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Blackpowder and primers blow up. Smokeless powder deflagarates rather than detonates like blackpowder or primers do. Reason I don't keep black powder around and use substitutes on black powder arms.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (E4rtv)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks to our burger-themed host Weasel. (Because he said he's going to be In-N-Out, see?)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (t2oSI)
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Well, if you can go to Peruvia for salmon, you can certainly come up here for the real thing.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (DwqWV)
Fer sher. We have some friends that run a salmon biz in AK, and ship when we can afford it.
Yes, Peruvian salmon came from the Mart of Wals.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:30 PM (DwqWV)
Fer sher. We have some friends that run a salmon biz in AK, and ship when we can afford it.
Yes, Peruvian salmon came from the Mart of Wals.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (LMRVO)
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Blackpowder and primers blow up. Smokeless powder deflagarates rather than detonates like blackpowder or primers do. Reason I don't keep black powder around and use substitutes on black powder arms.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (E4rtv)
Yeah, but playing with black powder was a lot of fun, when we were idiot kids. Lol.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (E4rtv)
Yeah, but playing with black powder was a lot of fun, when we were idiot kids. Lol.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:34 PM (DwqWV)
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I will check on that. My vision makes shooting less than fun. I want to like it because Mr Scary does. Thank you Mr Whig.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
No problem. Works for handguns as well as longarms and easy to apply/remove. Stays on by static charge between glasses and the stick on aperture like those oil change stickers on windshields nowadays.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
No problem. Works for handguns as well as longarms and easy to apply/remove. Stays on by static charge between glasses and the stick on aperture like those oil change stickers on windshields nowadays.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:35 PM (E4rtv)
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I assert my right to remain silent.
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (3CpER)
A suppressor? Where you reside? mwah-ha-ha-ha
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (3CpER)
A suppressor? Where you reside? mwah-ha-ha-ha
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 07:35 PM (t2oSI)
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51 Yes, Peruvian salmon came from the Mart of Wals.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM
I think we have one of those in the Isle of Staten.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM
I think we have one of those in the Isle of Staten.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:35 PM (3CpER)
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Fer sher. We have some friends that run a salmon biz in AK, and ship when we can afford it.
Yes, Peruvian salmon came from the Mart of Wals.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (LMRVO)
We're going dipnetting the week of July 4. You can't do that as a tourist, but there's no law against cleaning 'em and fileting 'em and cooking them over a nice fire and eating them with alcoholic beverages available.
Just sayin'.
Yes, Peruvian salmon came from the Mart of Wals.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:33 PM (LMRVO)
We're going dipnetting the week of July 4. You can't do that as a tourist, but there's no law against cleaning 'em and fileting 'em and cooking them over a nice fire and eating them with alcoholic beverages available.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:36 PM (DwqWV)
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Yeah, but playing with black powder was a lot of fun, when we were idiot kids. Lol.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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My dad was a farmer, we had access to dynamite back then to blow up stumps. Impressive even what one stick would do. I played around with model rockets (Estes).
Posted by: tcn in AK
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My dad was a farmer, we had access to dynamite back then to blow up stumps. Impressive even what one stick would do. I played around with model rockets (Estes).
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:36 PM (E4rtv)
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53 A suppressor? Where you reside? mwah-ha-ha-ha
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 07:35 PM
Soon, my friend, soon. :-)
Sometime after August of next year when I am ensconced within a Free State.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 07:35 PM
Soon, my friend, soon. :-)
Sometime after August of next year when I am ensconced within a Free State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:36 PM (3CpER)
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Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
Will NY let you do that or is that another item on the "when I retire" list? I saw that the DOJ was suing some state over their ban on suppressors but I don't recall who.
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
Will NY let you do that or is that another item on the "when I retire" list? I saw that the DOJ was suing some state over their ban on suppressors but I don't recall who.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 07:37 PM (vTZFs)
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Consequently the Navy decided they didn’t really need to test them. Or they didn’t want to anyhow.
They had more than one factor or problem causing the frustration. Some skippers discovered that a glancing blow on the target, at an angle, non-intuitively resulted in a better chance of detonation than a dead on straight 90 deg. hit.
The magnetic trigger or whatever was pretty unreliable from what I read, and the torpedos wouldn’t run at the depth they were set at.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (tM8U
In "Silent Victory," Clayton Blair writes that BUORD wrote a user manual for the Mark 14 torpedo and immediately proceeded to classify it as top secret in the 1930s. The upshot was that the torpedomen on the subs didn't even have a user manual for their torpedoes because the only copy was locked in the secure document vault in Newport, RI. No wonder no one knew what was going on with the Mark 14 in 1941-42 in COMSUBPAC.
They had more than one factor or problem causing the frustration. Some skippers discovered that a glancing blow on the target, at an angle, non-intuitively resulted in a better chance of detonation than a dead on straight 90 deg. hit.
The magnetic trigger or whatever was pretty unreliable from what I read, and the torpedos wouldn’t run at the depth they were set at.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:23 PM (tM8U
In "Silent Victory," Clayton Blair writes that BUORD wrote a user manual for the Mark 14 torpedo and immediately proceeded to classify it as top secret in the 1930s. The upshot was that the torpedomen on the subs didn't even have a user manual for their torpedoes because the only copy was locked in the secure document vault in Newport, RI. No wonder no one knew what was going on with the Mark 14 in 1941-42 in COMSUBPAC.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:38 PM (BCwQW)
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Mountain Home Air Force Base airshow is where the F-18 mating dance happened, very low altitude.
So, I'm gonna take some of my .22 revolvers out and try to see if I remember how to shoot next week. It's been a while.
So, I'm gonna take some of my .22 revolvers out and try to see if I remember how to shoot next week. It's been a while.
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 17, 2026 07:39 PM (Q/FnY)
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but at least THAT trip will include a trip to a magical castle in NH! And a range report!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
Grateful/TRex, send me an email/text for castle tour info!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
Grateful/TRex, send me an email/text for castle tour info!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:39 PM (LMRVO)
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Good evening fellow enthusiasts.
Range report:
Another great outing by the DMVMGC. Guess what? I finally cleaned the Glock and it worked perfectly! I had couple of jams but more due to adjusting trigger pull. Really fabulous to have shooting buddies who can tell if it is the ammo, the gun or just human needed adjustment.The best part was getting to shoot Sra Blaster's Kimber CDs9.. It just feels right. Now I just have to figure out how to obtain one even though it has 15 rd mags.
Range report:
Another great outing by the DMVMGC. Guess what? I finally cleaned the Glock and it worked perfectly! I had couple of jams but more due to adjusting trigger pull. Really fabulous to have shooting buddies who can tell if it is the ammo, the gun or just human needed adjustment.The best part was getting to shoot Sra Blaster's Kimber CDs9.. It just feels right. Now I just have to figure out how to obtain one even though it has 15 rd mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (kJmSS)
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DH is still strutting around after shooting 800 yds with RI Red. He gets this wistful smile thinking about it. So. Much. Fun.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (DwqWV)
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I just downloaded a bootleg copy of that. I might already have it, not sure.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (tM8U8)
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58 Will NY let you do that or is that another item on the "when I retire" list? I saw that the DOJ was suing some state over their ban on suppressors but I don't recall who.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 07:37 PM
It was definitely not NY.
NY still has the unSAFE act which makes it difficult to get an AR style rifle. Suppressors are still banned here and I believe NJ also.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 07:37 PM
It was definitely not NY.
NY still has the unSAFE act which makes it difficult to get an AR style rifle. Suppressors are still banned here and I believe NJ also.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (3CpER)
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You should be more worried with us blowing the place up than burning it down. There's a lot of gunpowder involved.
Blowing up stuff usually means black powder. Is JTB around?
Blowing up stuff usually means black powder. Is JTB around?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 07:41 PM (vTZFs)
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A companion to the ptsd Army vid
Combat Psychiatry Korean War Era With Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek And Fess Parker of Davy Crockett
https://youtu.be/OPF-Tx1QmVY
Combat Psychiatry Korean War Era With Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek And Fess Parker of Davy Crockett
https://youtu.be/OPF-Tx1QmVY
Posted by: toby928(c) at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM (4NO2D)
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I assert my right to remain silent.
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (3CpER)
Scuba Dude, you need to get yourself an H&K MP5 and a matching suppressor. Except for a suppressed bolt action, that's about as good as it gets with suppressors. There's nothing quite like squeezing off bursts of automatic fire from an MP5 with a suppressor using subsonic ammo.
Until I pull the trigger, then there is a BOOM!
Unless I get a suppressor......
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:28 PM (3CpER)
Scuba Dude, you need to get yourself an H&K MP5 and a matching suppressor. Except for a suppressed bolt action, that's about as good as it gets with suppressors. There's nothing quite like squeezing off bursts of automatic fire from an MP5 with a suppressor using subsonic ammo.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM (BCwQW)
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So, I'm gonna take some of my .22 revolvers out and try to see if I remember how to shoot next week. It's been a while.
Posted by: Gmac
Always useful and fun. That is why I got so pissed at Obama when 22 LR suddenly became unavailable with panic buying and hoarding when that jughead kept trying to create unconstitutional workarounds for his peeps and the ATF.
I ended up buying some old 32 S&W Long revolvers so I could reload and fire light recoiling firearms at times. 22 LR revolvers, especially snubbies, have a heavier trigger pull than centerfire revolvers because of the need to hit the rim of the cartridge to set them off.
Posted by: Gmac
Always useful and fun. That is why I got so pissed at Obama when 22 LR suddenly became unavailable with panic buying and hoarding when that jughead kept trying to create unconstitutional workarounds for his peeps and the ATF.
I ended up buying some old 32 S&W Long revolvers so I could reload and fire light recoiling firearms at times. 22 LR revolvers, especially snubbies, have a heavier trigger pull than centerfire revolvers because of the need to hit the rim of the cartridge to set them off.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:43 PM (E4rtv)
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Blowing up stuff usually means black powder. Is JTB around?
Posted by: Oddbob
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You can usually smell someone that has been firing blackpowder before you see them.
Posted by: Oddbob
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You can usually smell someone that has been firing blackpowder before you see them.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:44 PM (E4rtv)
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The best part was getting to shoot Sra Blaster's Kimber CDs9.. It just feels right. Now I just have to figure out how to obtain one even though it has 15 rd mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Nice to get range reports. Thanks.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Nice to get range reports. Thanks.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:44 PM (E4rtv)
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68 Scuba Dude, you need to get yourself an H&K MP5 and a matching suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM
How much would that set me back? LOL
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM
How much would that set me back? LOL
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:45 PM (3CpER)
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Eh, ya gotta be careful regardless.
The guy who invented Pyrodex managed to blow himself up with his product.
The guy who invented Pyrodex managed to blow himself up with his product.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 07:45 PM (tM8U8)
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DH is still strutting around after shooting 800 yds with RI Red. He gets this wistful smile thinking about it. So. Much. Fun.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (DwqWV)
tcn, dunno if he wants to fly 3300 miles, but we have a micro mini MoMe coming up where we reach out to 1100 yards!
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (DwqWV)
tcn, dunno if he wants to fly 3300 miles, but we have a micro mini MoMe coming up where we reach out to 1100 yards!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM (LMRVO)
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It was definitely not NY.
NY still has the unSAFE act which makes it difficult to get an AR style rifle. Suppressors are still banned here and I believe NJ also.
Seems like er'body's suing er'body these days and it's going to take years until we have final results. It looks like DOJ is specifically targeting states in circuits where it's at least possible that the circuit court might go our way. I.e. not the 9th or (I think) the 2nd.
NY still has the unSAFE act which makes it difficult to get an AR style rifle. Suppressors are still banned here and I believe NJ also.
Seems like er'body's suing er'body these days and it's going to take years until we have final results. It looks like DOJ is specifically targeting states in circuits where it's at least possible that the circuit court might go our way. I.e. not the 9th or (I think) the 2nd.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM (vTZFs)
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DH is still strutting around after shooting 800 yds with RI Red. He gets this wistful smile thinking about it. So. Much. Fun.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (DwqWV)
Mr Scary wants someone to shoot his rifle with. I can't see for shit. He needs TX Mome. Please be nice to Mr Scary if we show up. Thanks.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 07:40 PM (DwqWV)
Mr Scary wants someone to shoot his rifle with. I can't see for shit. He needs TX Mome. Please be nice to Mr Scary if we show up. Thanks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM (aGrif)
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Thanks for the vids on aiming torpedoes!. I was wondering what I was doing wrong!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 17, 2026 07:47 PM (cWLG3)
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68 Scuba Dude, you need to get yourself an H&K MP5 and a matching suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM
How much would that set me back? LOL
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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The initial price is only part of it. The ammo cost is the other. The Scot in me winces seeing ammo wasted like that. I see money going downrange when I shoot each shot. Reason why I started reloading.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:42 PM
How much would that set me back? LOL
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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The initial price is only part of it. The ammo cost is the other. The Scot in me winces seeing ammo wasted like that. I see money going downrange when I shoot each shot. Reason why I started reloading.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:48 PM (E4rtv)
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Scary Mary I shot with a patch that clipped on to my glasses until I had my cataract surgery which also fixed my astigmatism. They are cheap and easily obtained on Amazon. It is pretty common in archery. But it was my left eye that I covered as right is dominant. For $20 worth a try.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 17, 2026 07:49 PM (kJmSS)
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It can be bed time
Have a good night everyone
Have a good night everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2026 07:53 PM (Ia/+0)
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73 Eh, ya gotta be careful regardless.
The guy who invented Pyrodex managed to blow himself up with his product.
Posted by: Common Tater
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That was a sad one, One of the co-inventers, Pawlak and a few others died at the mfg plant,
Hodgdon's Powder Company writeup about it, "Unfortunately, on Jan. 27, 1977, Pawlak and three others perished when product at the Washington-based Pyrodex facility flared.
Production of Pyrodex subsequently moved to Herington, Kan., where it continues to be made today in a safer, state-of-the-art facility with minimal human interaction. "
The guy who invented Pyrodex managed to blow himself up with his product.
Posted by: Common Tater
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That was a sad one, One of the co-inventers, Pawlak and a few others died at the mfg plant,
Hodgdon's Powder Company writeup about it, "Unfortunately, on Jan. 27, 1977, Pawlak and three others perished when product at the Washington-based Pyrodex facility flared.
Production of Pyrodex subsequently moved to Herington, Kan., where it continues to be made today in a safer, state-of-the-art facility with minimal human interaction. "
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:53 PM (E4rtv)
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How much would that set me back? LOL
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:45 PM (3CpER)
The real deal (w/ fun switch setting) will set you back $55k or so. MP5s are at the top of the heap for Class III firearms because 1) they're pretty modular, 2) OEM and aftermarket parts and accessories are readily available, and 3) even the Class III versions are out there in decent numbers (relatively speaking). But if the fun switch version is out of reach, the semi-auto version is still a lot of fun suppressed. Even the H&K semi-auto SP5 can be had for about 5% of the Class III version. And the clones are even cheaper.
Would be really nice if it comes with a giggle switch. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:45 PM (3CpER)
The real deal (w/ fun switch setting) will set you back $55k or so. MP5s are at the top of the heap for Class III firearms because 1) they're pretty modular, 2) OEM and aftermarket parts and accessories are readily available, and 3) even the Class III versions are out there in decent numbers (relatively speaking). But if the fun switch version is out of reach, the semi-auto version is still a lot of fun suppressed. Even the H&K semi-auto SP5 can be had for about 5% of the Class III version. And the clones are even cheaper.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 07:54 PM (BCwQW)
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Evenin', Horde.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 17, 2026 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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No range time this weekend. Road closed due to a local 5k race along the beach.
But. I do think about preparing for diffferent situations daily. I think it’s good, not paranoid, to have personal defense in mind all the time. Even at home. Even with the doors locked.
I don’t live in fear because I live prepared.
But. I do think about preparing for diffferent situations daily. I think it’s good, not paranoid, to have personal defense in mind all the time. Even at home. Even with the doors locked.
I don’t live in fear because I live prepared.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 07:55 PM (A5RD0)
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Two Navy jets CRASH midair during Idaho air show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvVoow5Jos
4 chutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvVoow5Jos
4 chutes
Posted by: Ray's Cyst at May 17, 2026 07:56 PM (jrgJz)
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WARD CARE OF PSYCHOTIC PATIENTS
Weasel always finds the best "news you can use" info!
I didn't see the Patton Slap treatment mentioned, but it looks like the film was abruptly cut short.
I need a continuous bath!
Weasel always finds the best "news you can use" info!
I didn't see the Patton Slap treatment mentioned, but it looks like the film was abruptly cut short.
I need a continuous bath!
Posted by: mindful webworker - dementia prefix at May 17, 2026 07:56 PM (cz4n2)
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Scary Mary I shot with a patch that clipped on to my glasses until I had my cataract surgery which also fixed my astigmatism. They are cheap and easily obtained on Amazon. It is pretty common in archery. But it was my left eye that I covered as right is dominant. For $20 worth a try.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 17, 2026 07:49 PM (kJmSS)
Thank you I will check into this. My right eye will never be good. But I can manage
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 17, 2026 07:49 PM (kJmSS)
Thank you I will check into this. My right eye will never be good. But I can manage
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:56 PM (aGrif)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:57 PM (3CpER)
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I just had spawn put the gun away.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 17, 2026 07:57 PM (VCgbV)
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H&K MP5 full auto? In 9mm? Wimps. My LGS has an M-60 machine gun in 7.62 NATO for only $84,999.99, before state sales tax.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (N9LdK)
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On deflagerating powder, you can burn it and it burns hot and fast. But unless contained in an airtight container, it won't explode. There is a reason it is kept in plastic containers nowadays as those are designed to pop off when the pressure gets too high.
BP can and does explode to the degree it was used in mining until they came up with nitroglycerine and then dynamite.
Smokeless is also less, but not perfectly so, likely to suddenly catch fire from static electricity sparks.
If you do have old smokeless powder around or inherit mystery powder, it is actually excellent nitrogen for plants and you can water it in for them.
BP can and does explode to the degree it was used in mining until they came up with nitroglycerine and then dynamite.
Smokeless is also less, but not perfectly so, likely to suddenly catch fire from static electricity sparks.
If you do have old smokeless powder around or inherit mystery powder, it is actually excellent nitrogen for plants and you can water it in for them.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (E4rtv)
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Was Broderick Crawford too drunk to deliver the "Leave your blood at the Red Cross" closer for this episode?
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (kU0PQ)
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Nurse! Good to see you.
I will have a question, in a bit.
It's absolutely not fear, it's common sense. And preparation. Others don't "get" that.
I will have a question, in a bit.
It's absolutely not fear, it's common sense. And preparation. Others don't "get" that.
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (LlRQB)
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My LGS has an M-60 machine gun in 7.62 NATO for only $84,999.99, before state sales tax.
* checks Powerball results *
Oh well. Maybe they'll still have it next week.
* checks Powerball results *
Oh well. Maybe they'll still have it next week.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM (vTZFs)
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We have a burgeoning Purple Martin colony.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:07 PM (aGrif)
Is this because of the UFO stuff? Though, I thought they were green.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:07 PM (aGrif)
Is this because of the UFO stuff? Though, I thought they were green.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM (kU0PQ)
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55k? Hmmmmm, do I really need to get a new Jeep?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:57 PM (3CpER)
Remember, the MP5 (especially the Class III version) is an appreciating asset IF you take care of it. Any car is a depreciating asset one minute after you sign the contract for it.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:57 PM (3CpER)
Remember, the MP5 (especially the Class III version) is an appreciating asset IF you take care of it. Any car is a depreciating asset one minute after you sign the contract for it.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: mindful webworker - dementia bangcox at May 17, 2026 08:01 PM (cz4n2)
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nor excessive engraving on a long arm.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)
I tend to agree. But I really do want to get to a point where I can engrave Psalm 144:1 on my carry weapon.
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)
I tend to agree. But I really do want to get to a point where I can engrave Psalm 144:1 on my carry weapon.
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:02 PM (kU0PQ)
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Ah. I'm sensing a theme in today's post.
Know your audience. Some weeks Weasel is more subtle about it than other weeks.
Know your audience. Some weeks Weasel is more subtle about it than other weeks.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 08:02 PM (vTZFs)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 08:03 PM (NlEaG)
101
H&K MP5 full auto? In 9mm? Wimps. My LGS has an M-60 machine gun in 7.62 NATO for only $84,999.99, before state sales tax.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (N9LdK)
It's easier to find a range where you can shoot the MP5, especially indoor ranges. Also, the MP5 is cheaper to feed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 17, 2026 07:58 PM (N9LdK)
It's easier to find a range where you can shoot the MP5, especially indoor ranges. Also, the MP5 is cheaper to feed.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:03 PM (BCwQW)
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Please be nice to Mr Scary if we show up. Thanks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
I haven't seen or experienced any one being mean in TX.
It would be great to meet you there.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
I haven't seen or experienced any one being mean in TX.
It would be great to meet you there.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 17, 2026 08:03 PM (Yypdw)
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96 Remember, the MP5 (especially the Class III version) is an appreciating asset IF you take care of it. Any car is a depreciating asset one minute after you sign the contract for it.
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM
Well, it will have to wait until late next year. Unless I win the lottery. :-D
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM
Well, it will have to wait until late next year. Unless I win the lottery. :-D
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:04 PM (3CpER)
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Remember, the MP5 (especially the Class III version) is an appreciating asset IF you take care of it. Any car is a depreciating asset one minute after you sign the contract for it.
And a machine gun can help you when you really need a car but a car won't help much when you really need a machine gun.
And a machine gun can help you when you really need a car but a car won't help much when you really need a machine gun.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 17, 2026 08:04 PM (vTZFs)
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Every war, it seems that we have to learn again that bad equipment decisions in peacetime can cost lives when at war.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (E4rtv)
It's much better to see what we're seeing in Iran, where the stress test is showing that Chinese weapons don't work no good.
But, then you have to hope they do NOT learn their lesson.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 07:15 PM (E4rtv)
It's much better to see what we're seeing in Iran, where the stress test is showing that Chinese weapons don't work no good.
But, then you have to hope they do NOT learn their lesson.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:05 PM (kU0PQ)
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Steck!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 08:05 PM (A5RD0)
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76 Mr Scary wants someone to shoot his rifle with. I can't see for shit. He needs TX Mome. Please be nice to Mr Scary if we show up. Thanks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM
If you come you will meet some of the nicest, down to earth folk possible. And Mr. Scary will be in good hands at both ranges.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM
If you come you will meet some of the nicest, down to earth folk possible. And Mr. Scary will be in good hands at both ranges.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:06 PM (3CpER)
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Why learn to aim torpedoes when you can get the solution from the fire control computer?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM (T6aVk)
Well, sometimes you're stuck in a nebula and can't sense your opponent....
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 07:20 PM (T6aVk)
Well, sometimes you're stuck in a nebula and can't sense your opponent....
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 17, 2026 08:06 PM (kU0PQ)
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At the range today I handed SWA a box of ammo because sra blaster and I borrowed a box from her last time. She said pshaw. I have too much ammo anyway.
I said I do not understand those words in that order.
I said I do not understand those words in that order.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 08:08 PM (NlEaG)
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Is this because of the UFO stuff? Though, I thought they were green.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM (kU0PQ)
Thank you. NO. We had Purple Martin's til a few years ago. They disappeared. We have a new colony this year. It has made me more nerdy and protective. I like birds more than. People mostly.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:00 PM (kU0PQ)
Thank you. NO. We had Purple Martin's til a few years ago. They disappeared. We have a new colony this year. It has made me more nerdy and protective. I like birds more than. People mostly.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 08:08 PM (aGrif)
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The first answer of course: don't be there. If you must be there, be there with a .45 !
Horde, need your help.
Head-in-sand friend taking liberal wife and adult son to London for a week. In person yesterday, I gently warned him to keep his head on a swivel and that wife could be in danger... and that I didn't mean theft. Didn't want to use the R word.
Are there any UK based maps / apps that can pinpoint trouble spots / known dangerous areas / crowds ?
I'm beside myself with worry, and I can't talk to Her, she doesn't like me.
Nurse, yes, it's my (former) wingman.
Horde, need your help.
Head-in-sand friend taking liberal wife and adult son to London for a week. In person yesterday, I gently warned him to keep his head on a swivel and that wife could be in danger... and that I didn't mean theft. Didn't want to use the R word.
Are there any UK based maps / apps that can pinpoint trouble spots / known dangerous areas / crowds ?
I'm beside myself with worry, and I can't talk to Her, she doesn't like me.
Nurse, yes, it's my (former) wingman.
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 08:09 PM (LlRQB)
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43 ... "In WWII Narragansett Bay was a very active Naval area including Goat Island and Gould Island where much of the early development of torpedos took place. I've read a lot of stuff about what a cluster that was at the beginning of the war."
My grandfather worked at the Goat Island facility, usually called the torpedo station or torpedo factory. He was a master tool maker and helped design and build the tools needed to make the weapons, many of which were new. From what he mentioned to us grandkids, what began as a sloppy operation due to neglect between the wars quickly became an effective operation as the need for more and better weapons grew. He was proud of that. Gramps wasn't soft spoken and I suspect the words he used talking to adults about it were softened for us youngsters.
My grandfather worked at the Goat Island facility, usually called the torpedo station or torpedo factory. He was a master tool maker and helped design and build the tools needed to make the weapons, many of which were new. From what he mentioned to us grandkids, what began as a sloppy operation due to neglect between the wars quickly became an effective operation as the need for more and better weapons grew. He was proud of that. Gramps wasn't soft spoken and I suspect the words he used talking to adults about it were softened for us youngsters.
Posted by: JTB at May 17, 2026 08:10 PM (yTvNw)
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I tend to agree. But I really do want to get to a point where I can engrave Psalm 144:1 on my carry weapon.
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: GWB
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Well, if you have the touch, go for it. I don't and know it.
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: GWB
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Well, if you have the touch, go for it. I don't and know it.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 08:11 PM (E4rtv)
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And a machine gun can help you when you really need a car but a car won't help much when you really need a machine gun.
Posted by: Oddbob
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True in a Mad Max sort of way but in such situations, you will soon need a good orthopedist from toting one around like an M-60.
Posted by: Oddbob
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True in a Mad Max sort of way but in such situations, you will soon need a good orthopedist from toting one around like an M-60.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 08:14 PM (E4rtv)
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111 Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 08:09 PM
Hey Steck, I was in London last September.
There are no apps that I know of that will tell of trouble spots.
All I can say if they stay in the touristy area's of London they should be OK.
I do not know how the Tube is at night as I would come back from touring and stay in after having dinner. But they should use with caution. Take a cab if it is late.
Also, I stayed in a really nice area of London, the Kensington area. Had no problems in the 4 days I was there.
Hope this helps.
Hey Steck, I was in London last September.
There are no apps that I know of that will tell of trouble spots.
All I can say if they stay in the touristy area's of London they should be OK.
I do not know how the Tube is at night as I would come back from touring and stay in after having dinner. But they should use with caution. Take a cab if it is late.
Also, I stayed in a really nice area of London, the Kensington area. Had no problems in the 4 days I was there.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:15 PM (3CpER)
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But, then you have to hope they do NOT learn their lesson.
Posted by: GWB
I hope the Chicoms go the convenient scapegoat route and simply blame the Iranians for being stupid.
Posted by: GWB
I hope the Chicoms go the convenient scapegoat route and simply blame the Iranians for being stupid.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 08:15 PM (E4rtv)
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'm beside myself with worry, and I can't talk to Her, she doesn't like me.
Nurse, yes, it's my (former) wingman.
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 08:09
My liberal cousin and her kids went to the UK last month. They came back alive and not ass raped by fans of MoMo.
God Bless your family. Sorry if I am graphic.
Nurse, yes, it's my (former) wingman.
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 08:09
My liberal cousin and her kids went to the UK last month. They came back alive and not ass raped by fans of MoMo.
God Bless your family. Sorry if I am graphic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 08:16 PM (aGrif)
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>>My grandfather worked at the Goat Island facility, usually called the torpedo station or torpedo factory.
I had a boat slip at the Goat Island Marina for many years. Just as you enter the marina there is a small monument to the torpedo history. That's what got me reading about it.
I had a boat slip at the Goat Island Marina for many years. Just as you enter the marina there is a small monument to the torpedo history. That's what got me reading about it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2026 08:17 PM (viF8m)
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No range time this weekend. Road closed due to a local 5k race along the beach.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 07:55 PM (A5RD0)
Well, that could have been a really interesting range trip. Moving targets is always something you should work on. (Like the cop at the WHCD, trying to shoot a guy running across his field of view.)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 07:55 PM (A5RD0)
Well, that could have been a really interesting range trip. Moving targets is always something you should work on. (Like the cop at the WHCD, trying to shoot a guy running across his field of view.)
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 08:19 PM (kU0PQ)
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Scoob, thank you, that helps -- I know they'll be in Kensington at least some of the time. I'll strongly suggest cabs.
BarelyScaryMary, you have me in tears. My already shattered heart wants only the best for them.
And I know my attentive boss will ask about all this Monday.
BarelyScaryMary, you have me in tears. My already shattered heart wants only the best for them.
And I know my attentive boss will ask about all this Monday.
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 08:23 PM (LlRQB)
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Soon, my friend, soon. :-)
Sometime after August of next year when I am ensconced within a Free State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:36 PM (3CpER)
Most excellent that you have a date in sight! TXMoMe 2027 will be a celebration for you.
Sometime after August of next year when I am ensconced within a Free State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 07:36 PM (3CpER)
Most excellent that you have a date in sight! TXMoMe 2027 will be a celebration for you.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 08:23 PM (t2oSI)
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Most excellent that you have a date in sight! TXMoMe 2027 will be a celebration for you.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
************
Scuba Dude is gonna have to share the TX MoMe 2027 celebration....we will have our house in TN finished in the spring and be domiciled there IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
************
Scuba Dude is gonna have to share the TX MoMe 2027 celebration....we will have our house in TN finished in the spring and be domiciled there IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 08:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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121 Most excellent that you have a date in sight! TXMoMe 2027 will be a celebration for you.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 08:23 PM
Thanks, hopefully will be traveling from the Tampa area and not NYC. :-)
Still on for sharing the driving to this years MoMe?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 08:23 PM
Thanks, hopefully will be traveling from the Tampa area and not NYC. :-)
Still on for sharing the driving to this years MoMe?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:27 PM (3CpER)
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122 Scuba Dude is gonna have to share the TX MoMe 2027 celebration....we will have our house in TN finished in the spring and be domiciled there IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 08:26 PM
Nice!!!!! Glad to hear!!!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 08:26 PM
Nice!!!!! Glad to hear!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:28 PM (3CpER)
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Thanks, hopefully will be traveling from the Tampa area and not NYC. :-)
Still on for sharing the driving to this years MoMe?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:27 PM (3CpER)
Absolutely!
Still on for sharing the driving to this years MoMe?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:27 PM (3CpER)
Absolutely!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 17, 2026 08:29 PM (t2oSI)
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Scuba Dude is gonna have to share the TX MoMe 2027 celebration....we will have our house in TN finished in the spring and be domiciled there IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 08:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
Congratulations!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 17, 2026 08:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
Congratulations!
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:30 PM (BCwQW)
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I am calling it a night. Tired from having fun at the range today.
Got a doctor's appointment tomorrow. Hoping to get a few referral's. :-)
Got a doctor's appointment tomorrow. Hoping to get a few referral's. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 17, 2026 08:33 PM (3CpER)
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BarelyScaryMary, you have me in tears. My already shattered heart wants only the best for them.
And I know my attentive boss will ask about all this Monday.
Posted by: Steck
They will be good, i am sure. I have my own particular dislike of the UK and Europe that doesn't apply to the Horde or their loved ones.
And I know my attentive boss will ask about all this Monday.
Posted by: Steck
They will be good, i am sure. I have my own particular dislike of the UK and Europe that doesn't apply to the Horde or their loved ones.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 08:38 PM (aGrif)
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Also at the range today: we were put into a range room all by ourselves at first. Iris said oh good because usually there is someone with an obnoxiously loud gun. I said well that will be us today.
I brought a 10.5 inch AR pistol. With a super safety. It was...loud.
I think we've said equipment matters. I grabbed a couple of mags for the AR without looking. One a real PMAG one a Thermold. The Thermold did not pay nicely in super safe mode.
We are headed to Florida for the weekend. Will take that along so we can really give it the chance to rock and roll.
I brought a 10.5 inch AR pistol. With a super safety. It was...loud.
I think we've said equipment matters. I grabbed a couple of mags for the AR without looking. One a real PMAG one a Thermold. The Thermold did not pay nicely in super safe mode.
We are headed to Florida for the weekend. Will take that along so we can really give it the chance to rock and roll.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 08:39 PM (NlEaG)
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Our "eventually" has a date on it for the move to our farm in Florida. I'd like to say it will be by the end of this year. But outside a year from now.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 08:40 PM (NlEaG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2026 08:44 PM (Cqx++)
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About black powder. Yep, it's an explosive. If you remember the Spy vs Spy cartoons in Mad Magazine, the bombs looked like canon balls with a fuse sticking out. Those would use black powder. Modern powders burn rather than explode but have to be contained in a case sealed with a bullet. The burning creates pressure that forces the bullet through the barrel. (Sorry if this is too elementary.) You can pour some modern powder in a clear area, not contained, light it and it will just burn, not blow up.
Posted by: JTB at May 17, 2026 08:46 PM (yTvNw)
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"AI is gonna touch EVERYTHING as well." Quotes nightly news. Again the insight, "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded."
Also, good film teaser with Fess Parker and Leonard Nimoy.
Also, good film teaser with Fess Parker and Leonard Nimoy.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 17, 2026 08:47 PM (YlWIZ)
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Calling it a night because I have an early wake up tomorrow. Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at May 17, 2026 08:52 PM (BCwQW)
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70 ... "You can usually smell someone that has been firing blackpowder before you see them."
Whig,
That made me laugh and it's sort of true. The 'perfume' of shooting black powder does tend to remain for a while. On a calm, humid day the aroma can really stick around.
Whig,
That made me laugh and it's sort of true. The 'perfume' of shooting black powder does tend to remain for a while. On a calm, humid day the aroma can really stick around.
Posted by: JTB at May 17, 2026 08:53 PM (yTvNw)
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Ja, winding down early tonight.
Thanks as always, weasel!
Thanks as always, weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 08:57 PM (LMRVO)
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Guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 17, 2026 08:58 PM (xcxpd)
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The re-enactor crowd call it “Holy Black” and they generally dislike Pyrodex as it manages to smell worse, more corrosive, and a bit harder to light off.
BP has different HazMat requirements. That’s why it is no longer on the shelf, rather stored in a magazine, all by itself. Consequently it is not as available as it once was, and has insurance associated with it. Thus the Ersatz substitute powders.
BP has different HazMat requirements. That’s why it is no longer on the shelf, rather stored in a magazine, all by itself. Consequently it is not as available as it once was, and has insurance associated with it. Thus the Ersatz substitute powders.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 08:59 PM (Snw0w)
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Did hit the range alone.
Nothing fancy, just some PSA Dagger drills.
I really need to pick a handgun and focus on it. Seriously. I see again that minor handgun differences mean different points of impact.
Oh well. Not much chance of me settling down as I go between loving the accuracy of the CZ P-07 and preferring striker fired fire control units. And that's just me narrowing things to G19-sized pistols....
Nothing fancy, just some PSA Dagger drills.
I really need to pick a handgun and focus on it. Seriously. I see again that minor handgun differences mean different points of impact.
Oh well. Not much chance of me settling down as I go between loving the accuracy of the CZ P-07 and preferring striker fired fire control units. And that's just me narrowing things to G19-sized pistols....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 17, 2026 09:01 PM (xcxpd)
140
Someone doesn't like Steck? Unpossible!
Posted by: Weasel at May 17, 2026 09:01 PM (Z3klv)
141
sra blaster had a migraine and vertigo today not a good combo for shooting. But I took her Kimber CDS9 today to see if I could fix its troubling tendency to not go fully into battery. I had SWA shoot it because it would do it every time for her.
And sure enough it did. I LIBERALLY applied Hoppes lube to it. Literally dripping wet. That took care of it.
Anyone who knows sra blaster knows she laughs hard that it has to be lubed up.
And sure enough it did. I LIBERALLY applied Hoppes lube to it. Literally dripping wet. That took care of it.
Anyone who knows sra blaster knows she laughs hard that it has to be lubed up.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 09:04 PM (NlEaG)
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Jeez.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The top jet came in from behind, then pancaked on top of the other plane, then they got stuck together, like the time my friends (male) dog jumped our fence into the neighbor's yard where their bitch was (and in heat).
The top plane was impaled on one of the twin tails of the lower. If that had occurred with F-16s, the bottom pilot would be dead, but because they were F-18 Super Hornets the two tails are offset from the centerline, so that the lower plane's canopy was clear. When I saw the 4 chutes, it gave me permission to be a smartass. "Well, there goes some poor Somali's chance to be a success story as another immigrant millionaire, crashing a couple of hundred million bucks that could have gone to a leading center", I said.
This has to embarrassing for the Navy. In front of a crowd at an AIR FORCE base.
A bit off topic but just watched the vid of the two F-18s colliding. Ejecting inverted has to suck.
At least on a tank you just have to jump off.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The top jet came in from behind, then pancaked on top of the other plane, then they got stuck together, like the time my friends (male) dog jumped our fence into the neighbor's yard where their bitch was (and in heat).
The top plane was impaled on one of the twin tails of the lower. If that had occurred with F-16s, the bottom pilot would be dead, but because they were F-18 Super Hornets the two tails are offset from the centerline, so that the lower plane's canopy was clear. When I saw the 4 chutes, it gave me permission to be a smartass. "Well, there goes some poor Somali's chance to be a success story as another immigrant millionaire, crashing a couple of hundred million bucks that could have gone to a leading center", I said.
This has to embarrassing for the Navy. In front of a crowd at an AIR FORCE base.
Posted by: buddhaha at May 17, 2026 09:08 PM (Ffkme)
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>>>>Thus the Ersatz substitute powders.
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Pyrodex works well in percussion "blackpowder" guns but flintlocks need the real thing to fire dependably, especially when hunting with one.
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Pyrodex works well in percussion "blackpowder" guns but flintlocks need the real thing to fire dependably, especially when hunting with one.
Posted by: Cosda at May 17, 2026 09:08 PM (Vq8Vc)
144
Weasel, IK,R ?
I was told it's because I'm a Trump-voting, gun-toting hugger.
( I suspect it's more than that-- perhaps she could smell the chemistry. And not Pyrodex, either. )
I was told it's because I'm a Trump-voting, gun-toting hugger.
( I suspect it's more than that-- perhaps she could smell the chemistry. And not Pyrodex, either. )
Posted by: Steck at May 17, 2026 09:09 PM (LlRQB)
145
I don’t live in fear because I live prepared.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 07:55 PM (A5RD0)
Yea through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest SOB in the valley.
Lol.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2026 07:55 PM (A5RD0)
Yea through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest SOB in the valley.
Lol.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 09:14 PM (DwqWV)
146
Welp, 9:14pm thank you time.
Thank you!
Appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!
Thank you!
Appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at May 17, 2026 09:14 PM (Z3klv)
147
Thanks Weasel
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 17, 2026 09:18 PM (xcxpd)
148
tcn, dunno if he wants to fly 3300 miles, but we have a micro mini MoMe coming up where we reach out to 1100 yards!
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM (LMRVO)
Damned difficult to leave AK in the summer. It's why we live here. I have farmin', and fishin', and campin', and grandboy sittin', and all that jazz. But it is tempting. Maybe next year.
Posted by: RI Red at May 17, 2026 07:46 PM (LMRVO)
Damned difficult to leave AK in the summer. It's why we live here. I have farmin', and fishin', and campin', and grandboy sittin', and all that jazz. But it is tempting. Maybe next year.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 09:21 PM (DwqWV)
149
Sorry for the OT but I think there's an animal in my wall. I don't suppose I can shoot it. There, back on topic. Times like this, I really hate living alone. At least the cat is monitoring the situation. I might have to burn the house down.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:24 PM (0SdQT)
150
I will check on that. My vision makes less than fun. I want to like it because Mr Scary does. Thank you Mr Whig.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Have you tried hand grenades?
/really late to the party and probably No.23 to throw that out there.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Have you tried hand grenades?
/really late to the party and probably No.23 to throw that out there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 17, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
151
Have you tried hand grenades?
/really late to the party and probably No.23 to throw that out there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 17, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
Umm....
My interpersonal skills are lacking.
/really late to the party and probably No.23 to throw that out there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 17, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
Umm....
My interpersonal skills are lacking.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at May 17, 2026 09:28 PM (aGrif)
152
Sorry for the OT but I think there's an animal in my wall. I don't suppose I can shoot it.
Try coaxing it out with a plate of tacos.
Try coaxing it out with a plate of tacos.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 17, 2026 09:30 PM (ceJ0R)
153
Pyrodex works well in percussion "blackpowder" guns
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I never cared for it. It has a slight though noticeable delay even in the caplocks, and smells awful, horribly corrosive. It does work, I guess.
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I never cared for it. It has a slight though noticeable delay even in the caplocks, and smells awful, horribly corrosive. It does work, I guess.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 17, 2026 09:31 PM (vT7rt)
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:34 PM (0SdQT)
155
Sorry for the OT but I think there's an animal in my wall. I don't suppose I can shoot it. There, back on topic. Times like this, I really hate living alone. At least the cat is monitoring the situation. I might have to burn the house down.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:24 PM (0SdQT)
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Walls? You have walls? Luxury!
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:24 PM (0SdQT)
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Walls? You have walls? Luxury!
Posted by: Weasel at May 17, 2026 09:35 PM (Z3klv)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 17, 2026 09:35 PM (ceJ0R)
157
>>>and smells awful, horribly corrosive. It does work, I guess.
Posted by: Common Tater
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It does smell like burning plastic.
Posted by: Common Tater
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It does smell like burning plastic.
Posted by: Cosda at May 17, 2026 09:38 PM (Vq8Vc)
158
Thanks, once again, Weasel.
And Horde.
And Horde.
Posted by: GWB at May 17, 2026 09:39 PM (kU0PQ)
159
Why would you want to shoot a plate of tacos?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2026 09:40 PM (Cqx++)
160
So... Capricorn One.
Elliot Gould and James Brolin star.
Best known today as being a moon-landing skeptic movie and for posting OJ Simpson on the credits. Da Juice plays a crewmate of Brolin (and of Sam Waterston), and puts in a good acting performance... but he's just there to die. Like Waterston dies.
1969 tech wasn't there to fake a moon landing; but mid-1970s was arguably there, and that's the valley Capricorn One flies through.
Independence Day owes much to this movie. The paranoid style, and the ending scene where Gould and Brolin have to flee the deep-state agents sent to cover up the plot.
Elliot Gould and James Brolin star.
Best known today as being a moon-landing skeptic movie and for posting OJ Simpson on the credits. Da Juice plays a crewmate of Brolin (and of Sam Waterston), and puts in a good acting performance... but he's just there to die. Like Waterston dies.
1969 tech wasn't there to fake a moon landing; but mid-1970s was arguably there, and that's the valley Capricorn One flies through.
Independence Day owes much to this movie. The paranoid style, and the ending scene where Gould and Brolin have to flee the deep-state agents sent to cover up the plot.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2026 09:42 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 17, 2026 09:42 PM (ceJ0R)
162
Walls? You have walls? Luxury!
Posted by: Weasel
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Depending on what's in there and what it's eating, I may not have that wall for long.
Posted by: Weasel
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Depending on what's in there and what it's eating, I may not have that wall for long.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:45 PM (0SdQT)
163
162 Depending on what's in there and what it's eating, I may not have that wall for long.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:45 PM
***
Home repair goes in the hobby thread.
Pets go in the pet thread.
If you shoot it and prepare it, it goes in the gun thread and then the food thread.
If you don't shoot it but instead dress it up, it goes in the Sunday fashion ONT thread.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:45 PM
***
Home repair goes in the hobby thread.
Pets go in the pet thread.
If you shoot it and prepare it, it goes in the gun thread and then the food thread.
If you don't shoot it but instead dress it up, it goes in the Sunday fashion ONT thread.
Posted by: TRex - dino has the AoS rulebook at May 17, 2026 09:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
164
"You can usually smell someone that has been firing blackpowder before you see them."
The Devil's Fart.
The Devil's Fart.
Posted by: davidt at May 17, 2026 09:50 PM (Q+gd/)
165
Years ago we had a possum in the walls. The dogs went nuts.
We had to call an animal removal service.
Years ago we had a possum in the walls. The dogs went nuts.
We had to call an animal removal service.
Posted by: four seasons at May 17, 2026 09:51 PM (3ek7K)
166
In Alabama they found a "grenade-like IED" underwater by a dam.
I think it was probably just Joe Bob fishing.
I think it was probably just Joe Bob fishing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 09:52 PM (NlEaG)
167
In Alabama they found a "grenade-like IED" underwater by a dam.
I think it was probably just Joe Bob fishing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 09:52 PM (NlEaG)
I agree. Or a couple of drunks being stupid.
I think it was probably just Joe Bob fishing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 17, 2026 09:52 PM (NlEaG)
I agree. Or a couple of drunks being stupid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 17, 2026 09:55 PM (iERP6)
168
We had to call an animal removal service.
Posted by: four seasons
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I've called my pest control company. I hope they can get somebody out tomorrow. In February they sealed up all the little nooks and crannies around the attic, crawl space, dryer vent, etc.. But I guess things can always find a way in.
Posted by: four seasons
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I've called my pest control company. I hope they can get somebody out tomorrow. In February they sealed up all the little nooks and crannies around the attic, crawl space, dryer vent, etc.. But I guess things can always find a way in.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 17, 2026 09:59 PM (0SdQT)
169
The Devil's Fart.
Posted by: davidt at May 17, 2026 09:50 PM (Q+gd/)
If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.
Posted by: davidt at May 17, 2026 09:50 PM (Q+gd/)
If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.
Posted by: Mao Zedong (1893-1976) at May 17, 2026 10:01 PM (T6aVk)
170
Steck...
I know London quite well, and was just there a few weeks ago.
Shoot me an email at the address in the sidebar if you want to chat...
I know London quite well, and was just there a few weeks ago.
Shoot me an email at the address in the sidebar if you want to chat...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 17, 2026 10:01 PM (iERP6)
171
160 So... Capricorn One.
Elliot Gould and James Brolin star.
Best known today as being a moon-landing skeptic movie and for posting OJ Simpson on the credits. Da Juice plays a crewmate of Brolin (and of Sam Waterston), and puts in a good acting performance... but he's just there to die. Like Waterston dies.
1969 tech wasn't there to fake a moon landing; but mid-1970s was arguably there, and that's the valley Capricorn One flies through.
Independence Day owes much to this movie. The paranoid style, and the ending scene where Gould and Brolin have to flee the deep-state agents sent to cover up the plot.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2026 09:42 PM (gKWVE)
Last time I saw this it was on German TV. Dubbed rather than subtitled.
Elliot Gould and James Brolin star.
Best known today as being a moon-landing skeptic movie and for posting OJ Simpson on the credits. Da Juice plays a crewmate of Brolin (and of Sam Waterston), and puts in a good acting performance... but he's just there to die. Like Waterston dies.
1969 tech wasn't there to fake a moon landing; but mid-1970s was arguably there, and that's the valley Capricorn One flies through.
Independence Day owes much to this movie. The paranoid style, and the ending scene where Gould and Brolin have to flee the deep-state agents sent to cover up the plot.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2026 09:42 PM (gKWVE)
Last time I saw this it was on German TV. Dubbed rather than subtitled.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 10:03 PM (T6aVk)
172
When in London I toured Parliament, which for me was a highlight. You will not believe how small Commons is until you are standing in it.
Westminster Abbey and the Churchill War Rooms were also as amazing as they sound.
The first place I went to in London? The Tower.
Westminster Abbey and the Churchill War Rooms were also as amazing as they sound.
The first place I went to in London? The Tower.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 10:05 PM (T6aVk)
173
Depending on what's in there and what it's eating, I may not have that wall for long.
Posted by: screaming in digital
***
Home repair goes in the hobby thread.
Pets go in the pet thread.
If you shoot it and prepare it, it goes in the gun thread and then the food thread.
If you don't shoot it but instead dress it up, it goes in the Sunday fashion ONT thread.
Posted by: TRex - dino has the AoS rulebook
Bruh....
Years of the blog were just tossed away like so much Simarilian crap.
Depending on what's in there and what it's eating, I may not have that wall for long.
Posted by: screaming in digital
***
Home repair goes in the hobby thread.
Pets go in the pet thread.
If you shoot it and prepare it, it goes in the gun thread and then the food thread.
If you don't shoot it but instead dress it up, it goes in the Sunday fashion ONT thread.
Posted by: TRex - dino has the AoS rulebook
Bruh....
Years of the blog were just tossed away like so much Simarilian crap.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 17, 2026 10:05 PM (tdVVZ)
174
159 Why would you want to shoot a plate of tacos?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2026 09:40 PM (Cqx++)
What if the tacos looked at me wrong?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2026 09:40 PM (Cqx++)
What if the tacos looked at me wrong?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 10:06 PM (T6aVk)
175
Steck,
CBD travels to London and Paris more frequently than most of us. Maybe ask him for insight.
CBD travels to London and Paris more frequently than most of us. Maybe ask him for insight.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 17, 2026 10:06 PM (VCgbV)
176
The first place I went to in London? The Tower.
Posted by: Cow Demon
There's a pub where Michael Caine served beer that is kinda between the MoD and Victoria Park. That was ma first stop.
The first place I went to in London? The Tower.
Posted by: Cow Demon
There's a pub where Michael Caine served beer that is kinda between the MoD and Victoria Park. That was ma first stop.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 17, 2026 10:08 PM (tdVVZ)
Posted by: four seasons at May 17, 2026 10:09 PM (3ek7K)
178
113 I tend to agree. But I really do want to get to a point where I can engrave Psalm 144:1 on my carry weapon.
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: GWB
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Well, if you have the touch, go for it. I don't and know it.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 08:11 PM (E4rtv)
Ezekiel 25:17 : )
"Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
Posted by: GWB
=======
Well, if you have the touch, go for it. I don't and know it.
Posted by: whig at May 17, 2026 08:11 PM (E4rtv)
Ezekiel 25:17 : )
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 10:11 PM (T6aVk)
179
Damned difficult to leave AK in the summer. It's why we live here. I have farmin', and fishin', and campin', and grandboy sittin', and all that jazz. But it is tempting. Maybe next year.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 09:21 PM (DwqWV)
My first year in AK, the AF sent me back to San Antonio for tech school. For the entire AK summer. So I got to go through a San Antonio summer and an AK winter.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 17, 2026 09:21 PM (DwqWV)
My first year in AK, the AF sent me back to San Antonio for tech school. For the entire AK summer. So I got to go through a San Antonio summer and an AK winter.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2026 10:15 PM (T6aVk)
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